T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: is there a way to make a trigger fire only on one instance and then disable itself?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: make it a 1-shot trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: thanks, what happens after it triggers? does it delete itself?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: yes...if you're in the window to define a trigger and click "help", it'll describe what each of the options does...
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: One-shot: If checked, once this trigger fires, it is deleted.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kaof grins evilly at Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: help doesnt work in win7
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i never really noticed the button there, thanks lol
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: mine doesnt :(
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone know if there is a specific flag to add to a clan hall room to allow mapper to pick it up?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: mine doesn't work either, it says failed to launch help
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: do that and it helps work perfectly
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: is there a way in mush to split screen scroll kinda like how it worked in zmud? so you can refer to something you called up earlier, while interacting with the mud?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: fiendish explained it earlier. possible but extremely hard to do
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: and wouldnt be exactly the same
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh cool, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: you can tell it not to jump scroll to bottom on activity, under game ->configure -> output
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: oh, another thing, it ships with a disabled plugin that does approximate what you want
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: is the only way to change a portal level by deleting it and adding it again?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: westclox: try setting the portal's level again, then doing portal list
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: mapper portallevel <ind> <lvl> is what "mapper help portals" tells me
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: and remember that it already knows what tier you are, so only input raw level
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: right, im trying to increase a bit higher because of my tier, im tired of running through SOH and Agroth and getting stopped by agros lol
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: mokg and thunderax: try adding the Current_Output_Window.xml plugin, see if that approximates what you're interested in
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: can block exits for a specific level
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: nod, leave the portal alone, just levellock the exit south to the guard
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: such as the exit south of agroth portal until x level
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: plugin is bugged
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: what is the command for that, and does that also take into account my tier?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: westclox: right-click a room
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: ahh okay, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: nevermind, just the other windows are covering it. sending to back doesnt reveal it either
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: and yes, exit level locks also account for tier, so you will want to lie to that one
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: hmm thanks, close to what i'm looking for abe, but problem is when you input anything, the scroll jumps back to the last received line
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its sooo ugly :P
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: thunderax: uncheck "un-pause on send" in the output config
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh awesome, that's perfect
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: well, it's not one of Fiendish's, it's just an example plugin made by gammon
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its all yellow, and no colors :(
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: maybe bug Fiendish to polish it up and repackage it so it'll have his top/bottom layer ordering & all the other neat stuff he adds ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: anyone knows whats the command is to check the number of countries the players are from?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: domains
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: okie thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I have a pretty basic question regarding an alias in Mush if anyone is well versed with it and has a second
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Just ask the question
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Well, trying to figure out how to make an alias so that when I "bst xxx" (xxx being w/e mob) it strangles and the backstabs
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: alias match = bst *, send your commands, separate by hitting enter not a semicolon
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: %1 will be whatever is sent instead of *
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Or, if you have the aardmush you can do #alias {bst *} {strangle %1;bs %1}
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: #alias {bst *} {strangle %1;;bs %1} rather
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Ah that's one other question, when using the console to make aliases, do I just double semicolon? or use \n to break
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: double it
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone know which bast plugin i should delete to stop seeing messages like this? {invmon}3,938993340,-1,-1
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: having problems with the eqDB so had to remove it
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: and am now getting those messages whenever my inventory changes
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't remove any plugin.  Just type 'invmon'
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Those are from the MUD, not from a plugin.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh right, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Check 'tags'
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Tags have nothing to do with inventory. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: invmon isn't in tags
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Those aren't the inv tags?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Ok
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Inv tags are tags around your inventory (when you type 'i' etc), not when the contents of your inventory changes.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, the tags listed in TAGS are {inventory}...{/inventory}, which are used to surround the output of the INVENTORY command.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: I should have clarified with management. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: "Tags have nothing to do with inventory management/monitoring."
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Yeah I don't use invmon, but was remembering this output from invmon  "You will no longer see inventory update tags."
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the invdata/eqdata/invdetails commands have separate tags of their own which you can't ever turn on/off (except by intercepting the commands and sending something else instead), but INVMON will toggle the {invmon} (this one summarize the activity being taken) and {invitem} (this one provides the item details as shown on a single line of the invdata output) tags.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is each point of mastery just lastcost + 20qp/lastcost + 250kgold or does it change somewhere from 251 and above?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there an info message for the dqp start, like there is for the 30/5/1 minutes left and expiration?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: don't think so... there's no message when imms start double either
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: anyone using android app if so can u tell me is there a way to copy text from screen
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: long press
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but not too long or you'll make a button
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: but that just makes another button
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: like I said
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: sorry have lag
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: does anybody use any good addons for managing inventory and equipmennt?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biker Tech: Bast has a couple for MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i use mesh
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i use mush and do a little lua scripting myself
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biker Tech: one is just a miniwindow that lets you manipulate the items, the other is a full database of your inventory, and he has a new one that lets you designate "sets" of equipment
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: best ive seen work so far is gear
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biker Tech: if you wanted to do something yourself, then you'd want to look into "help invmon" and its related helps
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: how do I use mapper portal to run to a area I have it set up but I can't use runto with it?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: instead of rt use xrt.  it wil use the portal automaticaly
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: thanks didn't see that..was looking under mapper help config
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mapper help moving
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: also theres a mapper extender you might find useful, i think its a plugin of its own. that uses the xrt.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: I think I don't have that.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh. ops.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i do have the extender
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: mapper goto <room id>
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: dont know the room id, try           mapper find <text>             --> Full-text search the whole database
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i would look into the mapper extender plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: I can click on it under mapper portals and it uses it just fine..
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and if you want the extender plugin, finger winklewinlke for the web address
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zoh nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Is there a way to make a trigger to recast spellups that expire, automatically?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: you could just make a timer. alot simpler in my opinion
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are many spellup scripts available for various clients
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: How do you make a timer, and where can I get these scripts?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both questions depend on what client you're using to connect
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: depends on client i think >.>
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast, he has tons of plugins available on his site
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Anyone got a das keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: Ultimate model
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Is it awesome? :D
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: It really is.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Blue or brown switches?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: Blue
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, cool. Thinking of buying one, they seem really good. A tad expensive, but I cannot find a "cheap" keyboard that I can use for extended time.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have an old sun keyboard from the mid 90s now, but some of the switches on it has stopped working...
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: That's too bad.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: in aardwolf app can I make a button for kill what's in the room or have to wait for Kimball command
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: Kimball command
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can do an aoe attack if you don't want to target individual mobs.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What's kimball?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: autocrect suffering me up
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok... what was it supposed to be?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: killall
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is no such command afaik.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Some people have a database with mobs so they can set targets in room and then just hit a key to attack. Takes a lot of work to build that DB though. Personally, I do aoe most of the time.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, before doing something like that, make sure you understand what is a bot and not.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: ahh cool that's what I needed to know thanx
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: don't won't to go though all that rather one at a time
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: for the life of me I can not get the cut and past to work on touch screen. it makes a button ever time
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: iphone?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: HTC one s
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Aardwolf RPG then, I guess.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: sorry yeah aardwolf app
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: it came up once but can't get it again
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: mysql -U is not the same as a test run, is it?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Sorry.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you pipe an .sql file into mysql and supply the -U flag, is it the same as a "dry-run" of the SQL commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glako Tech: my pc died and now all i have mis my macbook. whats the best and easiest client to use with a mac?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: zmud ?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use WINE and use MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There are instructions on how to use that on the AardMUSH wiki.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glako Tech: alright, I'll check that out. I'm not very computer savy in thise aspect
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think it's been pretty dumbed down so even the least tech-savvy could do it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: parallels 8 is quite easy if you can afford it
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on what you mean by use.  If you want to log in and play with absolutely no concern about writing scripts at all, go with Mush.  Not very expandable, since you can't act on your sudden ideas, but the community shares everything but the most elite bots.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you wish to write your own scripts, or at least learn how, zmud/cmud is by far the easier.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a switch for "ls" which will only display file names and nothing more in osx
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: trying to just print all files to text file
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nevermind, text wrangler will do it for me
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's the default for ls, so you probably have it aliased.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Try putting a backslack infront of ls, or using the full path, e.g. /bin/ls
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You may want ls -1 though
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://pastebin.com/ePBBg9TV
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a clue on that
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: any ideas on why printer redirection through rdp/terminal services doesn't work? i just install a new printer locally to the client. i have box check for printer under local resources. other clients have the same printer working through terminal server. the printer shows up for the client and you can print to it but the job never makes it into the queue even.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: redirection also worked with the previous printer
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: dumb printer
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some simple printers cannot be printed to directly
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ie if you send raw text file printer and queue simply hangs
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if this is the case then you need to access printer using windows drawing functions
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though if new and previous printer are the same model then problem is elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the only flaw i see in that logic is i have this same printer installed and working with 6 other clients
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sorry for the long wait
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mapper thinks i can go down in this continiate room, but you cant.   how can i fix this?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: its a continent room so I cant jsut lock that exit
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends.  Some of the raiding entrances are listed in the mapper.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: purge the room and remap it
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this is in the siirima ocean in Gelidue.  room 19450
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: okay
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mapper purgeroom is the command you want
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thankyou, that worked
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Bast do you happen to have any insight for me on http://pastebin.com/ePBBg9TV
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: running mush through wine - other items work just failing on statmonitor
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nope, sorry, I have never seen the error, and I run MUSH through wine on a linux box
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: hrm, yea I cant figure that one out
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does it happen every time the db is backed up?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a command to initiate a backup - it got the error when attempting to load statmonitor
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nope, I will have to add one
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it just happens at noon and midnight right now
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: actually i deleted the stat.db file in the log folder - and looks like it might have worked
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: Does anyone know how to query the mapper built with the aard mush client?  IE I know the room name, but i dont know where it is located.. how can I search for it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: mapper help will tell you.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: check out mapper help :)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mapper help ftw
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: Is there a list of these helps listed somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for items flagged as temporary, are there any limits on the timer ranges?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there an easy way to view a rooms vnum in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh cool thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: anyone know how much mg/hour playing this game uses?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not much.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mg?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: megabytes. looks like I blew through my sisters Sprint in 4 days
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: milligrams? *shrug* Virion, if you type 'compress', you'll see in/out.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, there's no way you blew through Sprint's cap in 4 days. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: you mean mb?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: yes, mb. sorry tech isn't my thing
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: gimme her # and ill add more data to her plan
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: it may chew up quite a bit actually depending on what your doing with it
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If all you're doing is Aarding, then it's not going to chew up their cap.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: well I did stream 4 hours of television. did that do it?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That probably did it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wasn't aware that Sprint had anything other than unlimited data
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it's her fault, she should be on the sprint unlimited data plan
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: good god, 4 hours of watching TV on a 3-5" screen?!
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: could be prepaid
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Neither was I, Fiendish. I used to be a Sprint customer.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: she does most of her internet on her phone so she has Sprint's cheapest plan
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That doesn't make too much sense.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If she does most of her internet on her phone, she should get the $80 unlimited plan.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: or the $45 unlimited data and limited minutes
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Granted, it's 450 minutes landline (though free mobile-to-mobile), but it's unlimited everything otherwise.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that plan is only like $45-50 now Etzli
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seriously? Wow.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: the 80 plan is unlimited everything
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I was grandfathered into the $69.99 contract, but then they raised it to $80 once my contract went out.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: well, her hotspot costs $35/month.   But her phone is a different plan
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why use a hotspot unless you're out and about and need to use internet on your computer a lot?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: to mud!
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: foxfi..free the win
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks, hadnt seen that one before
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im just waiting on LTE here :( sprints 3g is crappy
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: well, My sister never uses a computer. I'm just visiting.   I use cable at home so I can use an unlimited amount of internet at home. I'm new to this hotspot thing and didn't know I could "use up" a hotspot
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: here it is at least
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Does the aard mapper have a way for me to include some additional logic, such as for a chaos portal, to tell it check a variable before using it, or choosing a different route?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't think portals are optional, assuming you had the mapper learn it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I set the level lock to 300 so it won't use it at all, but I wanted to make the mapper learn it for cps/quests/levelling, if not for gqs.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: on tt++ i just threw in a #IF{} inside of a variable, but I don't know how to get the mapper to read in streamed script like that.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: make an alias that does the logic, and just have it call that alias and put the script in there
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thats what i would do
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: - h30
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all mapper commands are sent via Execute
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and the mapper gods have spoken
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't think that would really matter though
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: well, that's one of the things i need to change first them. I need to go make them all send to Script
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it matters in that it isn't World
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but what do you put in the portal alias?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't need to make it send to script
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if not(in_gq) then use_this_portal() else ... ?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you need to tell the mapper to find a different way to go
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mapper find %1?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: presumably if you aren't going to use the portal you would use runto--or run if you just need to move a particular path not already defined.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can just clear and reset all your portals during and after gqs
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, i wouldn't want to make runto the fallback
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I only want my gq portals reset though :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you still want to use the "advanced" mapper pathfinding, you just can't use certain portals while in a gq
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I would still want my wizards portal, for example, during a gq
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so selectively add back only the portals you want to keep during the gq
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, right. this is undocumented in the help...
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hold on
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I used runto as a reference to a clientside version, not the slower gameside command starting from recall.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: myself, I only use runto when new areas are rolled in as I usually don't know/recall where they're located.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Heh, too monotonous. I'll just jack into the mapper code and add the logic at that level. It should be there anyways, as far as i see it
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: .... why not create a list of all the portals you can and selectively turn them on and off depending on what events your doing?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can't turn portals on and off, afaik
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: editing the mapper is just unnecessary
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Zider has it right.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: however, you can reset the level lock
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i mean a plug... that sends mapper commands
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: thats kinda what ive written for some of my routines
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i know what you meant, but there's no mapper command to turn portals on and off (again, afaik)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Already added it to the mapper, much easier this way. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are mapper commands to clear the portals list and then to programatically add portals back in
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: ... your addon cast them use them?   its just boolean logic
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this already exists
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: that then
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod, but that seems overcomplicated :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's ridiculously uncomplicated
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i would just add an is_cp boolean field to the portals table
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it is in fact less complicated than toggling individual portals on and off
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not going to happen
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not on your end perhaps, but it sounds like cheez already did it :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to bot gqs, work for it yourself
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i already have, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: and how is adding if (item_type[id][1] ~= itemDef["cp"]) any harder?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: if (bot_enable) then *beep
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The difference is that as the project maintainer I'm not willing to add something specifically designed for global quests.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: fiendish is there a working aard inventory?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm...working?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: This wasn't a suggestion for you to put into the base code... I was working on my own stuff here.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure for some definitions of working
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i dunno i see theres a file for it
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I know. I'm just trying to help you not have to make code changes, because what you want to do can already be done without them.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: but it doesnt come enabled
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: inventory is a pain. I gave up and just went with keeping track of wear/remove
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: my eqSets plugin is awesome (at least I think so)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Haven't looked at it, might need to check it out.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: fiendish well i cant seem to get the aard inventory plugin to do anything
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: aard inventory serials just adds serial numbers to your inventory list
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that the plugin you mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: that if thats it 
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: or what ever other incanation i should be looking at
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just look at your inventory as you always would
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i tried one that had mini windows over a year ago but didnt work well
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this does not add a miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it just merges the inventory readout with the serial numbers from the invdata readout
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: have you guys seen gear?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: prints out your iventory with hot spots for actions you can do with the items
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: is handy
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: colors are terrible
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is this gear thing?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is if for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: yes its mush
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: where can I get it to see what it does?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: its not all that advanced but it has buttons for the items in your inventory for actions like      identify/sell/compare/wear/  enchant macro stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: you can contanct me on skype and ill send you the file 
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: http://aardwolfgoals.blogspot.com/2011/05/my-inventory-plugin-called-gear-beta.html
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: by mushu?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why would you want something that completely ruins object colors?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Inventory and equipment data as a gmcp requestable blob would be so freaking awesome
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And furthermore negate the spells 'identify', 'object read', 'lore', and the command 'identify'.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: idk how well that would work with considerations of visibility/identification, though. I think some items override the id output with their own special stuffs
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: doesn't invdetails already do that, etz? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Invmon already negates some of the usefulness of those spells.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: it does mess up the item colors
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, invdetail, yeah.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No reason it shouldn't be possible, would just need the same checks. And spells being invalidated shouldn't be an argument against things - look at mobshield
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mobshield and identify are two completely unrelated spells. Mobshield was rarely used anyway.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Now, I wouldn't mind going for an "identified" flag on equipment currently in your possesion, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nobody said they were related, I merely said the circumstances are comparable
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hardly.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: One is a spell that was not used much, if at all. The other is a spell that's used quite often.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And yet, precedent
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you would still have to use them as invdetails does not give all the info the those do
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't think the identify spell is used often...
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i know i never use it, anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech:  74  Object read                  3191
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, interesting
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need for the id data like stats, resists, etc to be shown, all that is needed is uid, keywords and short string
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, a form of identify is in the topspells list.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what does object read show that the identify command doesn't?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shows spells, etc. Full identify.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: i
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shame there's not a topskills command to check if identify is used much.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Access to root uid would also be helpful, for the purposes of consumables with different individual ids, such as potions or keys
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: identify is a spell :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As well as a gameside command.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Most people just use the gameside command now.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there's also an identify command that can be augmented with a wish
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm sure the identify command is one of the top used commands
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The wish also applies to cast identification spells, I believe
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The identify command gives most of the information you want anyway.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: imms can check that *nudge nudge*
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wish only applies to the skill.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The wish allows for full identify with the identify command.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can get the same effect by casting identify.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so you would be ok with gmcp yielding raw id info, and more if you get the wish?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: guess no imms are watching :(
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because the important stuff, uid/keywords/short desc are all available without casting a spell or wishing
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Like I said, I'd be fine if it showed no information until you identified it, then it put an identified flag (but only while it was in your possession).
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: Something needed?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just wondering if identify is the top skill used. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: wanted to see where identify was on top used commands :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or among the top skills, since us mortals can't check it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My money's on 'home'
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: identify isn't a skill, it's a command :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: It has been used 117091 times this reboot.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I win the internet.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks, Rhuli.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: where does that rank?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: There's not a table of top used commands.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Vakieh: My money would have been backstab. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah :( thanks anyways :)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: Backstab 842537 times :)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the most used command? probably north
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: open, my money's on open
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, that's a lot though :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 117k in 2 weeks, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: run is the most I bet
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's 9,750 per day.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nynego?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I doubt it, Bast.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You kill more mobs than you run.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: Run is just below backstab.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not everyone backstabs though
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless you're typing 'run n' instead of just 'n' each movement.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: Look: 1093568 :)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There really should be a table for that. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: How many on 'open' and 'run'? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Run is just below backstab, so less than 847k.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i can write you a plugin to make a table if you give me sample output ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: Open 506679, Run 800676
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with The Reaper Myrkul about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's no table, though. He probably has to type a command for it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So after all that, would you have issues with *only* keywords, uid and short desc being available without id'ing something? Bearing in mind such data is already available from other sources than identify or similar
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, so check every command :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, we'll let you get right on that, Myrkul. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: won't take long to write :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I mean, there's only 473 LISTED commands.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Vakieh: That might be doable.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: write, and it would only take a minute or two to write a trigger to parse that into a lua table :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for k,v in ipairs(commands) do
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: omg, right
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i can't believe i just said that :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli rolls on the floor laughing at The Reaper Myrkul's antics!
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Good thing you're not in Gaardian. I hear they shoot people for that.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That's all the information that would be required for a very solid eq manager - not like the horrendous hacks I've tried without a mudside reference
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: anyone have an opinion on good monitors in the ~150 range?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: audio or video?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone uses tumblr on their own domain here?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I've changed the redirect, but the old redirect still seems to be active.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: e.g. I have random.tumblr.com pointed to tumblr.randomsite.com
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Then I change it to randomsite.com and back to tumblr.randomsite.com.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Now I can't host my own html/PHP sites on randomsite.com.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Is there a MUSH command to see the total amount of cexits you have entered atm?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: total as in, every single cexit in every area..
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper cexits
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Tks Abe, you da man^^
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of helps available right within the mapper...type "mapper help" for categories...then "mapper help exits" for the category dealing with exits, and it was the first one listed
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Hah, I should have checked.... brain fart + lazy 
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: 1102 cexits entered x.X Gonna need to back up externally.. ill cry if I lost that.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: 1119 I win
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Mokg is 17 cexits more of a bot than me!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: most are opening no pass doors... not too impressive
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: My most complex is Knossos :)
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. I'm guessing my 2318 cexits don't register. *halo*
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: WoW, Etzli is twice the bot then both of us!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I just have it alias'd
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: all those cexits and he doesnt even cp!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I do so!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: A whole 160!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, select * from exits where Direction != n/s/e/w/u/d: fetched 93 records
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: where can you get a program that when you press a key on the keyboard it randomises and outputs a other
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: like the engima of WWII
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: how heavy do you want the encryption?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: heavy
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: military grade
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: or at least one that cant be cracked by my family
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Just get magazin and hide it under your matress, no need to encrypt porn!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: not that i want to encrypt my code files and save and my mob databases that sort of stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Single key encryption (p-box) is a very weak algoritm. You need to encrypt blocks to get good encryption.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: AES is one of the most commonly used algoritms, and it has decent security.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And by decent I mean it cannot be broken by force. At least not yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: someday
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm having issues installing CM10 on my droid 3 using safestrap. Anyone familiar?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i need to buy toner, first time ever, bleh
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: help alias says you can with a semicolon
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: but it doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: what i want is to be able to cast multiple spells in one command
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: have you tried with double semicolon
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: it doesn't work either
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: this worked fine for me: alias test c 253;;c 437 in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: i'm in tintin
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the doubles work for me too
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Testure Tech: i use a macro with mushclient and use  \n  for return
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: got it
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try \; in tintin
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: Try setting the verbatim char in the #config section, so you can use that character at the beginning of a command to have tintin send the command as-is
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: i needed to scape with backslash
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: right bast
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: ty everyone
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I plug in my mouse I get kernel security check failure crash
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone know a solution
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still? weren't you having this issue like 2 months ago?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't find fix
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it's gonna be the mouse, the USB controller, or the OS...if it still has an issue when booted from the liveCD, then it'd the mouse or the controller
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's driver related but I guess I'd need to do a clean install of the OS
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cool I uninstalled the razer drivers
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and removed the registry entries
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: now seems to work when replugged
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tho I have a feeling it will crash at the worst time possible
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungard Tech: im using a telnet client to play, and my words are black as well as my background color. any way to change my font to be white color or the background to white?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: turn echo on ?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungard Tech: how D:
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: check 'colorset status', and see if you have set anything to black
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i vaugely remember press CTRL-], the set localecho on... or something it's been a while and telnet commands are slightly diffenet on linux and windows
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: so i'm using mushclient, the plugin miniwin_eq is loaded (plugins list), but not shown (plugins windows mneq). can anyone help me change it to shown ?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mneq eq show
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: someone here handy with excel/vlookup?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: anyone know how to get rid of the ascii map I now have over my room text desc. I am using mushclient and I have 2 maps already
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: relogin
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: no luck
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: help map
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: still no help
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: turn tags on
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: so 'tags map on'
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: maptags
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: as seen in help map
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: it was on
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: otggle that and it doesnt fix it?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: toggle
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then you have another plugin or trigger buggering things up
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: it wasnt like this 10 mins ago
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have experience expanding a raid in linux, is it possible?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok what have you changed in last ten minutes?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: it wasnt like this 10 mins ago
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: automap maybe, not sure what that does
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: automap solves the problem enough. At least I can see my main screen now. My mapper does not work anymore though
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: muchclient yes
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: you have your triggers on right?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because the map miniwin populates itself with automap
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: I do
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The miniwin is grabbing the info, but not eating it
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody rapidly nods twice at Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right click the miniwin, see if the 'Echo map in main output' is ticked
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: It is
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: toggle it
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would untick that, and turn automap back on
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: That has it.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: My gratitude to you both.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: need some assistance
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would i be right in assuming instinct in protection evil will affect inertial barrier?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I assumed it does, not confirmed though. Only put 5 into it.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: Inertial barrier         : sets protevil effect 
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kantrok Tech: is there a way to make the mud window bigger?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kantrok Tech: not sure what you mean, i'm using 'The Mud Connector'
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Head here - http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There you will get the full featured aardwolf application, totally free
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kantrok Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kantrok Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: does anyone use mag for mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Based off the 'clients' command, there's only 3 other people using mudlet.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: yikes...I'd use mushclient but I'm on a mac
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: finger fiendish and get his wine package in addition to the client
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: eek
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I recommend only using my wine package as a last resort if you can't figure out one of the better options for Wine on mac
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the version of wine I have packaged up on the download site is quite old because it was built by someone else
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: wine is a mud client?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Wine is software that lets you use Win32 apps on Linux/Mac OS
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient is a Win32 app
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: ah, gotcha!
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: could use winebottler. wine isn't too hard to setup though.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it works perfectly fine on my Macbook Pro and on my Thinkpad running Linux
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: via Wine
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read the page I linked. it has information
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: skip down to the part where it says "This Mac Wine download is Buggy!"
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: should I use playonmac?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've just updated my page as well. I fixed the broken link to Wineskin and rearranged the sections
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: Noticed that, thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: which one would you recommend more, wineskin or playonmac?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: I see wineskin is updated for mountain lion...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whichever works for you
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't really offer a whole lot of advice on either
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't have mountain lion
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I was having some problems with wine on mountain lion, I switched over to parallels 8 but it costs $$
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: I'll give em both a try
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah a virtual machine will always work best
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but not legally free
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Note to self. Turn triggers off before checking help invmon :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: curious but has any one used/is using that dragon naturally speaking?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone know if its possible to "pause output" (stop scrolling) from within a script in mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pause (true)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the built-in helps are quite comprehensive and searchable ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: sorry, tried a brief google and only found stuff on building pauses into scripts hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I went to help -> index, find, typed in pause, chose the first word, it gave 6 helpfile topics...scripting function list being one of them
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: nods, never actually used the inbuilt help, will do that now :)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks again
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do it in MUSHclient before google, and when using google, do that within www.mushclient.com/search.htm
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or manually put site:www.gammon.com.au into your search term
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: is it possible to make Macros with MUSHClient ? Like if the 'You feel holy and pure.' apear right after will appear "Magic DONE"
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: I think what you want is a trigger, Azyrael
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: so can I make a trigger like that ? in MUSH ?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: yeah.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: if you open game menu and trigger...enter text to trigger on, then in send box enter in what you want to send to you....if that makes sense.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: if it's just text stuff, should be pretty easy.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: i just copy and paste. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: ok I will try that ^^
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: let me know it worked for you. just did one myself. first one. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am still having problems making a trigger to to rearm after a disarm can someone help
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: use basts plugin. worked for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: works slick too, unless maybe not if disarm throws it to the floor, but since i got aardweapon it just re-equips it right away.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i just want to say bast is awesome to write so many plugins and stuff and not to be tempted by botting takes a lot willpower and ok thanks shaboom
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: why collor in the trugger dosent work ?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: spelling sensitive?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Now, by 'collor in the trugger', are you trying to trigger on a specifically colored string, or the word 'collor'?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: like I want to be cyan the text that I wrote!
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: To talk in cyan all you have to do is send @C to get this color
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: I cant use trigger because of the time always changing 'You are still recovering your Gaia abilities. (19:48).' .... is there a way arround it ?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Before I waste my time typing this long question out, anyone here familiar with gSOAP?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: about trigger, I want to change color to 'You blend perfectly with your surroundings and avoid A verume python's attack.' .... but each mob changes the name. what can I do ?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I copypasted code from a lua sqlite example (http://pastebin.com/qi9pif3y) but when I try to run it in mush, I get http://pastebin.com/yEwGfmPV.  I tried following the error and changing the first arg of bind to a num, but then it just got mad and asked for a table. Any help?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: anyone has experience with speedwalking?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: help runto
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: i mean the speedwalking command in lua
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In mush, Lua has no such thing by default.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: ok you're right. i meant the mushclient command
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: have you used it?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nope. I can look it up real quick though
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: that's ok. thanks anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: you mean the EvaluateSpeedwalk?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: or anything that involves queue()
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If it's a queue, i'd assume you'd just do .pop(), yes?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/11.4.html that's on using queues in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: not exactly. I use Queue ("eat", "drink", "etc")
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Well, here's its API documentation: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Queue
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: ok. thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: and here: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=EvaluateSpeedwalk for speekwalk function.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Another helpful tip, is to go to Help -> Functions List in your client. If you're on Vista onwards, you'll have to install the help plugin, but worth it, IMO
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah aard has "run"... don't need client speedwalks...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: that's handy
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yes and no, Santher.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well not that function anyways
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: With EvaluateSpeedwalk I can send EvaluateSpeedwalk(4nUEOEECW) to run 4n north, unlock east, open east, east, close west. Can't do that with run.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes you can
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You can, but you'd have to separate either physically or with semi colons.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i do it all the time :P
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I can send a single return string to EvaluateSpeedwalk() and let it do all the logic and separation for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods but not usinf run is sloppy and spammy
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That's fine and dandy, but if you're returning something, from say, the mapper, then you'd have to convert it yourself, and send it. Whereas I could just do EvaluateSpeedwalk(returnVariable) and be done with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: I was going to ask what do you do if you lagged and missed some of the commands in your queue?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Without writing a request/response scrtipt, nothing.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: There's no way for Mush to know which commands Aard recieved, without relying on triggers from aard itself (GMCP exluded, obviously)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: I see. Let's say your queue is "eee". How would you write your response script?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In that case, what i'd personally do is, in pseudocode, if (my_room_id == previousroom[exits][direction]) then foobar else print("something didn't happen...") end
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: looks good. now suppose your queue was "e OE e", how would you make sure you open the door before going east again?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Honestly there's no need though. If your string doesn't include open or any of the special commands, juust use the mudside run command
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: yeah...mine does involve open a lot
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: trigger on You open the *, and continue it from there.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: this a room tracking script?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: getting the permanent passdoor makes speedwalking much simpler :D
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Revia D
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: can't passdoor all doors :P
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: crap
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: well thanks burger.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or you could just you know, setup the mapper...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The mapper isn't foolproof either, some of the features Revia was suggested could be used to extend the mapper and make it a little less stupid with doors and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: like what?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Doesn't the mapper prefer custom exits over n/e/w/s/u/d?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: (i.e., couldn't you just make a custom exit that does "open north;run n"?)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yes, but the mapper also doesn't know when you don't have the key and the door didn't really open
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can, yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Chaz Bono Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: I wish there was a way yould make the mapper just use regular exits rather than using portals if you're already in the area of the room you want to go to.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: too much automatization is not good
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Revia's ideas could be used to extend the mapper to actually stop the speedwalk when something goes haywire
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: adding kill to obtain keys is a quick way to get nuked
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: I wish there was a way you could make the mapper just use regular exits rather than using portals if you're already in the area of the room you want to go to, even
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Dareau, you can use mapper walkto or something like htat - wont use portals.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and cexit can pretty much do anything...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: including aq's
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: doesnt the mapper just find the shortest route, portals or not? tt's does
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It does normally - but Daraeu was asking for a way not using portals.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If the portal is faster, use it, IMO
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: in that case you should be thankful it uses your portals
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mapper walk i think
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 4 rooms + portal is still faster than 10 rooms without
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it would be nice to have different entry room depending on level
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's what level locks are for
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, some portals are higher level than area itself (for example entropy), so with lower level starting room should be the one where 'runto area' leads, and when higher level the starting room should be the one where portal leads
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though this is rather S&D problem not mapper itself
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so set the level locks how you want then
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sheesh :P
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but I need low level lock not high level lock
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh right
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i've run into that before
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bug fiendish i guess
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, before 100 lev I want to use room x, after room y, though cannot block room x because sometimes portal destination room is one way only
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I haven't come across that need yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i'm not sure how i got around that either...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but it's not an issue for me anymore either
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though the easiest solution to that problem is just to buy trivia portal to first room in area
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i still think you're missing something with level locks
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: need to set the level lock on the portal, not a low lock on the run...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh low locks, i needed those when single class for area level locks... but that problem goes away when you remort
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Add a custom exit with an alias to check your level to room one?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tjodalv Tech: Anyone who knows computers well and using windows live.please contact me.I am having problems with mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiain Tech: heya. i use the android client, blowtorch. there is a default set of buttons with n, w, e, s... etc. sometimes when i hit the direction buttoms, it says there is no door in that direction. anyone know why?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: buttons have multiple functions. I think you didn't press but more swept the button. Which migh "open"
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiain Tech: ah, so thats why. i didnt know that! thank you. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiain Tech: yeah, thats what i had done. thanks. :D
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: In mush client.  how can I change what my keypad buttons do? I found it very simple in cmud, but in mush.. i'm having some issues.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: game/configure/keypad?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I actually /just/ found it.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "Dareau Tech: I wish there was a way yould make the mapper just use regular exits rather than "   <- There is.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: Anybody know any good ways to write a script related to health? Like to auto-quaff a potion?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: oh like botting?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read 'help botting'
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: nice I'll check it out, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: there's a mud mode you can get all the raw data from the game and manipulate your character on it, like health
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: not mccp, thats' a compression protocol, but something else
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: autoquaffing isn't illegal, so long as you're not in combat mode.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: but just feed that stuff into your variables and you're set
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: Ahhh this is all interesting, already learning a lot already about the legalities of it all. Thanks a ton
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Autoquaffing in combat isn't illegal either, so long as you don't go afk.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's more grey than defined, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: gmcp it must be, like invdata will show you all the raw information
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: No it makes pretty decent sense though, I'll have to google some things ot see what kind of scripting I can do. I've never scripted before.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: autohealing is technically legal, but the help does say "Use a macro/button you have to type/click."
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's always been legal. The only issue that would make it illegal is if you were to walk away suddenly, and attacked, would you continually heal yourself away from the keyboard? So, it's truly up to you to use it. Just... if you get nuked for afking, that's on you.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: or as I like to think of it... don't do it, unless you love skating on thin ice.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what if an house emergency arises, forcing attention to be diverted from the keyboard 
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lasher will feel bad for you as he mashes the nuke button.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's exactly why it's grey area. If you get caught because of an emergency, that's your problem.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, that's why you shouldn't do it
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: anyway, unless you have some sort of muscular atrophy or degeneration, mashing a couple of buttons isn't exactly hard, as long as you're really there.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: this mud become unplayable wihout autoquaffing
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: That's okay, I just learned a ton about aliases that I didn't know just by researching a llittle
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: haha no that wasn't the issue
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it all comes down to what your triggers do if Lasher or another imm decide to spoof game messages to you.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No it doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That is singlehandedly the most ridiculous statement I've seen from you, Zade. "This mud becomes unplayable without autoquaffing."
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: Yeah I'm a MUSH newbie, I dont even have the slightest idea how to go about botting, like I said, just learned about alias for the first time
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You do not have to autoquaff at all to play. Maybe in your own little world, but your statement is just asinine.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: Yeah autoquaff isn't really necessary.... Especially when I just found out I can bind "quaff heal" to my apostrophe key... lol
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: simple for you to say with 30,000 plus hp
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really? I have 806 hp.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Check your facts before you come up with more stupid statements.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: botting isn't (necessarily) scripting.  I'm sure we've had more than a few players smeared all over the digital sidewalk because they slammed aard with a really long list of game commands..
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: for me I made a lot of aliases as I went along, as well as "sound triggers" (which plays a sound and doesn't send stuff to the mud). Those two alone make things very easily playable and will not break anything.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The highest hp I've ever had is just over 20k.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: Woah, sound triggers sound awesome
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And I highly doubt Mahavira has over 30k hp.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Sound annoying really
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: pun not intended lol
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you'll find a lot of things that sound cool yet don't turn out to be as helpful as you thought it'd be once you implement them.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You tend to tune out the sounds after a while.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or get in the mood to listen to music while playing.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: except for rare events. The sound I have for tell does usually alert me when I'm idle
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or are playing at a time when sounds in general might be rather inconvenient.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: eh, I just mute all sound when in such a situation
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, but that interferes with the intent of your script system ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if you are clicking buttons, you are not autoquaffing
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if you are clicking buttons, you are manually-quaffing
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: My original intent was to find a way to drink a potion easier when my health got low without having to type "quaff heal" everytime
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: I dont need an autoquaff to do that now if I can just type ' and enter
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you are clicking buttons, you are manually breathing
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: autoquaffing implies the use of triggers to initiate a quaff when hp drops unnoticed too low amidst the horrifc battlespam - especially at the start of some battles (Cataclysm - Centre of Battlefield)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: outside of battle the auto part doesn't matter, and since GMCP helpfully indicates if you are in battle or not, you can control for the nukey actions.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Cataclysm Centre of Battlefield actually requires stacking a few quaffs after the direction movement, and hope they go through before a premature death results - autoquaffing don't work there
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: given that a combat round is 3s, I think that's more than enough time for you to notice your hp and quaff. If you would've died in a couple of rounds, quaffing usually won't help anyway.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: nonsense Sonshi, the battlespam is so great, there is a definite transmission/internet/screen lag - almost everymob there attacks 
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: try using aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a newbie is not going to notice anything but the sudden scream as the newbie dies
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he'll notice the screaming baby and the howling dog afterwards
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seriously, Zade, now I remember why I put you on ignore.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks for reminding me.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so somebody disagrees with somebody's opinions and they put them on ignore - yep, more ignore slots are required
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the first time I went through the great portal as a clueless newbie, I spammed recall as soon as I saw the 9324394824 demons whack me at the same time... I doubt quaffing would've helped. It's certainly not an argument for needing to autoquaff.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you see sudden spam as a newbie, you're either dead or you escape.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: glad you could get through the great portal at least
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: they got a great wall of firewall dedicated to taht in china
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: no all bad i guess, but they get angry about censorship
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a lot of newbies die due to inexperience and shabby equipment
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: until i got noweb, Cataclysm was dangerous
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, I have an autoquaff plugin posted on my site...however, it was written before GMCP, so it uses statmon
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and being in combat mode doesn't make autoquaffing illegal...being afk in an aggro room does
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in Cataclysm, The Ritual Staging Grounds, those seeker107 dissolve potions often don't work until several are quaffed, and with the quaff lag, the results of each quaff must be watched and acted upon for the flee or retreat, without the delay of another quaff during which web may happen again
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try perdition 201 dissolves instead
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i dread going into Nyne Woods into those aggro sections where the only exit is a custom exits -- the player is gambling (1) that an external emergency won't happen (2) heals won't run out while trying to get out
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blind, baby, blind :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: almost as though builders of some areas are deliberately seeking to get players nuked or dead 
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. Anyone have a solution to why I can ping my router, access a number of webpages (though not all, since some will not load), yet cannot access my router's page?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reboot the router, its webserver may have died
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. Was hoping to stay away from that, not that it's detrimental or anything. Will do that now, then.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: After a 30-second powercycle... still can't access it. :\
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Any other ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, and you're sure you're using the right port? Iknow mine has a different internal vs external port for its web interface
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's the only one I've ever used. I have it set to 192.168.2.1. Never had a problem connecting to it before, and in fact was connected to my phone via 192.168.2.17:8888 not more than an hour ago.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But it's more than just that. For instance, I can connect to facebook, but not fark. I can connect to Aardwolf and Google, but not sporcle.com, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd normally go with DNS for that stuff, but using IP for router bypasses DNS
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I can ping them alright, and get good responses. I've flushed the dns, no dice.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Ping to 192.168.2.1 Min: 1ms Avg: 1ms Max: 2ms}
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is your phone able to get to your router's webpage?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Amusingly, yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm... don't know why I didn't think of that.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it sounds like the issue is just with your PC and not with the router, so I'd try PC reboot first if you haven't
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, I'm just about to do that. Silly me. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There we go, that fixed it.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks for being my brains for that one. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: anyone using or have used that dragon naturally speaking?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: hoping someone can clear my doubt, my brother plays on blowtorch  ,but hes concerned about racking up the data limit (2gb)  im not as well versed in this but while connected to this game, will there be a ton of data exchanging back and forth?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aard is pretty lightweight on data usage
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Type compress to see how much. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's unlikely that he'll reach 2GB playing from Aardwolf. Maybe not even if he left it on 24/7.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: Bytes In :  16819404 Bytes Out:   1898822
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: this is since yesterday
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: or maybe not...
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 18,718,226, or 18MB.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: ah 18 mb, im relived then =) does blowtorch have the mccp compression?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my uncompressed logs from the month of December, being connected 24/7, take up 140MBs
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I doubt it. He can type 'compress' to see if it's on or not.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's everything that has crossed my screen, and doesn't include the reduction from MCCP
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: that doesnt include gmcp information though
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: thanks for the help guys =) ill let my brother know
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: he should be pretty happy
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blowtorch doesn't do GMCP, but it does do MCCP, and I echo a bit of GMCP stuff where my logs get it (not much, but every room has: GMCP: Room.Num 22150, GMCP: Room.Name Abelinc's Place, GMCP: Room.Zone manor3, GMCP: Room.Terrain city, GMCP: Room.Details bank,safe, GMCP: Room.Exits  "s": 22149, GMCP: Room.Coord 0 54 16 0 :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I wonder...does mapper goto work for a room which you have seen an exit to, but have not been in? (so the room itself wouldn't actually be in the database, but the exit would)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Tempting Guinness Tech: mapper unmapped?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's a way to list those, was more wondering if going to them would be limited to the area I guess
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the area?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the answer is no, you can only go to a room you've been to before
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, ok, so you'd basically mapper unmapped, then go to the adjacent room and walk in?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper unmapped lists rooms with unmapped exits
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: technically that should be unexplored exits
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, my unmapped lists the UID of both sides
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and mapper help exploring entry for mapper unmapped should have "n" in known areas :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm trying to think why you can't go directly to the unmapped uid
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: indeed it should
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not exactly sure off the top of my head why it won't find a path to the unmapped exit
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nod, that's why I figured I'd ask...it certainly has the necessary path info
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper unmapped should also probably not list -1s
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think it's because the room isn't stored
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: even though the exit destination is
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and it starts by searching for rooms
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess I could change that
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it came to me to ask when I gave the UID of my porch...people are more likely to have walked the main roads of manor areas than dropping into each porch (do you ship with manor roads?)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: uh I don't think so
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but you can use mapper findpath to give the path from recall
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: without having to go there
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: for blowtorch is there a way to initiate last command?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I made an alias to save all commands to an array and then just added a hotbutton to resend.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: A lot of effort really, and the results were minimal.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could just use !
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: there should be options to the left of where the text gets entered
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Herpderp on me.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: allright will try it out thanks =)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Always let my clients do it, forget that ! works like that sometimes.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrael Tech: anyone know how to turn on the logger on aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: file log session
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: chats automatically recorded though
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: anyone with mushclient have alot of custon exits an portals setup that would be willing to send me the scritp? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean database, not script
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: yeh whatever it is, im so bad with software i will never get anywhere lol
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If Xyrico was logged in, I'd say get it from him. As it stands, I cannot remember the link.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: so will it actually work? someone mentioned it to me and i jumped at the idea
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why wouldn't it?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: otherwise is it better to just make aliases instead of using mapper? or to what i understand now using mapper than just making an alias with the room id
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: i have no idea, thats why i am asking
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm too tired to answer that.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ask Fiendish, he should have the best database
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone using myfitnesspal for android ?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is the a command I can type into the commandline in MUSH to show me the current vaule of a variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: I think you can look at it in the variables menu?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: something along the lines of what zmud allows, iirc, #show #varaiblebame ?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: not if its in a plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so no one knows, or no, its not possible.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duvala Tech: How would I disable these floating buttons in Blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: long press until it vibrates 3 times
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cera: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetPluginVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know how to restore a PSN account? I haven't had a PS3 in a while and I just tried to log into my account, says my password is no longer valid and it sent an email to my email address to change the password, however I don't have the email address anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: set up a new account?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: tineye.com
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: If my mapper thinks theres an exit down but there isnt, how do I fix that?  (its a continent room so I cant right click the room)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you might be able to do it by deleteing the room with purgeroom, and then readding it
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: "mapper purgeroom" doesnt work..
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Respond with an error message or something?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: No, just not a mapper command.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is though... so either you're mistyping it, or you've got other problems 
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: you're thinking of purgezone?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, purgeroom.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Testure Tech: first try restarting the application of even the OS first..
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It removes the room you're currently in from the mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there another cp highlighter than Bast's
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: S&D has qs shortcut for quick scan
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: finger winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: apart from that tho
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: winkle got highlighter ?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: if you mean something to deal with CPs, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what's is wrong with mine?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yours doesn't seem to work standalone, needs another plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I removed some and it stopped working
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: reload it and it will autoload the one it needs
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that's the point tho, I don't want the others
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: some of them executes cp check on cp mob kill
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: spamming me etc
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, so you can be told if a cp mob died and is in red, otherwise you don't know
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it could be nice to have you plugins in 2 versions : integrated and specialized
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maryposa Tech: tech I accidently hit / and enter taking me to recall before I realised what was happening when I was meant to hit up button and enter. How do I deactivate it??????
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maryposa Tech: anyone on? I accidently hit / and enter taking me to recall before I realised what was happening when I was meant to hit up button and enter. How do I deactivate it??????
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's global alias
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: alias / to anything else
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mudside global
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: type alias / look
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and it will look instead
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maryposa Tech: thanks. um what is that meant to do exactly?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: insteaf recall being tied to the / look will be. it will still not do as you intended but at least you won't recall
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud is there a way to view all the portals you have set up currently?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mapper -> Edit -> Portals?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i ment like a way to print them out so i can compare it to a current list of portals i have
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do you see the mapper commands
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: np, you can hug me
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There may be, Hadar, but I can't think of it off the top of my head, let me see.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grissom hugs TrEz.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can do it via the Mapper window, can't you?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i always thought you were a guy
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't imagine why
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the name really always confuse you and etzli
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hanslanda: I think he wants to print a database of it, like #FORALL %portal() {#print %i}
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Obviously, that won't work.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though there might be something in mapquery to use.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mapquery only works on the WHERE of the rooms table.  Can't access any other part of the mapper with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wasn't sure if portals were set to that. Then sql. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i figured i would have to do it with a third party program
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if they were, you'd only have an id number, which is entirely useless for comparison.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why would you have to do it with a third party program if you can use sql?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: syntax for adding a portal to the mapper to use instead of runto to get to an area is...?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: better UI
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Perhaps, Hanslanda, but if you're only wanting to print up a list, not just view it, then using sql in CMUD wouldn't be bad.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, it wouldn't be so bad, but trying to figure out what went wrong using CMud's sql interface is rather inconvenient.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It'd be nice if there were a way to upgrade Lua to 5.2 in CMUD. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why couldn't you?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: How would you?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Last time I tried, I must not have done something right, because it didn't work.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: LUA is not something actually built into CMud, so it's probably just working with the MSH.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know. I'll try again in the future, but I couldn't get it to work. It'd also be nice if CMUD could be compiled with LuaInterface, but I don't see that happening either. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Toves: for just the syntax of the command, "mapper help" is extremely helpful...for understanding what your portal commands should really be doing and why, finger fiendish, go to his site...his wiki has tons of info on the aard MUSHclient and its plugins...click included plugins, featured plugins, GMCP driven world mapper...on the "more tips" section of that page is a link to a really good tutorial that walks you through the thought process of doing portal commands in a nice methodical manner
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: what's the command to check the update for mush client 
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ok may seem like a dumb questiou
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: how do you track down when mush finds a speedwalk initiated inside another speedwalk?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Mars: that's always going to be because a portal or cexit did an alias that itself does mapper find
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: package update check
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: Lua isn't an acronym
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yay!  the time machine's fixed again!
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: With a few small modifications, any canoe can travel through time.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth waves a sign reading 'CITATION NEEDED' at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Any vehicle can.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you use it for about 10 minutes, you've gone 10 minutes into the future.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://i.imgur.com/U2Qzx.png
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: okay so my quest window from bast keeps dissapearing insted of having the timer, anyone know the toggle?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using the quest or events window?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: anyone know the command (something called "carryover")? It's for triggers that need to match the last line of the output
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: I know it's vague
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't even know what you're talking about
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: ok. How can I make a trigger to match "[623/623hp 566/566mn 926/926mv 0qt 589tnl] >"
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what do you actually want to do?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: just trying to remember the command lasher made last year
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is it carriage return ?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lasher cannot make commands to trigger stuff...
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: carriage return?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: ooo that's it. thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A winner is TrEz!
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: p data will show you your prompt
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what client are you using?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lasher made the carriage return?!? wow.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: patented
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SuperJayT snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're using mushclient but not the aardwolf mushclient package?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: It's the package
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf mushclient package fixes your prompt automatically
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish writes the package, btw
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: via the Aardwolf_Prompt_Fixer plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: I have to check it out then
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: every time you start up mushclient it will check your prompt to make sure it ends in %c
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (that description is technically inaccurate, but not the part that matters)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: on MUSHclient 4.84, is there a way to set your health/mana/etc... bar to not be long, rather be one on top of the other?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right-click on the text somewhere
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Stack Bars
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I'm dumb!  LoL - Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: I updated the aard mush client and now every time I run to a new area I get : BIGMAP INFO: Constructed new continent bigmap for The Dark Continent, Abend. and the BIGMAP on my screen. I've tried "bigmap off" and it says it's disabled, but still does it every time i RT a new area 
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: stop running through continents and let it do its job
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go visit abend
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Looking at buying a new PC laptop. Is there any reason to get a displayport and thunderbolt on it? I see some of them have it, but I can't really see a use case for them.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define reason
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: displayport is basically HDMI without the royalties (so generic HDMI)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is a huge reason to have hdmi out. it means you can plug into a TV or projector
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and thunderbolt is mostly a Mac thing
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a modern one anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hate that my x201 only has vga out
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, would it be something I missed if I didn't have it.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's something that *I* miss. 
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't say what you would miss
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on whether you'd want to play downloaded movies on your TV, or conferenceroom wallboard TV
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: When would you use displayport instead of hdmi?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'd just use an adapter
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: instead of? I wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if I had both I'd use hdmi much more often
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CFO at work bought a TV for the conference room (we normally use LCD projector)...dummy got a plasma, without a VGA...when at the time all our laptops were older with just VGA
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They all seem to have hdmi, it's just that some have displayport as well.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that's actually unusual
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: plasma tvs tend to be really nice tho
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: really good color and contrast
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: much better than lcd
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Im looking at lenovo laptops.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was for conference room...not exactly doing movies with contrast
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Too many choices, so I selected I brand I think is decent. We use them at work.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, we're lenovo at current job, were dell at last job...for the dells, the 6500 and 6510 had displayport, while the 6520s had hdmi
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, so either is fine, you can use an adapter between them, correct?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno why anyone would put both on a laptop...as I said the main reason for displayport to exist is to not pay hdmi royalties
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, the adapter's like $15
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oki, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Another Q: Does having a SSD make a noticeable difference? I've never had a laptop with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: It can, really depends on what you're doing on the machine
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'd highly suggest it
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for most users, not really...depends on usage style
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, I mud, surf, write code, compile code, and use openoffice...
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Eh, wont really see a huge difference
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Then no, it won't make too noticeable a difference.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Boot time, that's about it.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I personally wouldn't bother with it
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't get your computer wet while surfing
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oki. For which use cases will it make a huge difference?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're all wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have one and do the same things and it makes me much happier
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: happier is a much different qualification than he asked for :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods sagely to you.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: being able to boot to my desktop in 4 seconds just makes the computer experience better
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: how much do those cost these days?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it makes a difference in how it feels to use your computer
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: They've come way down
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not that much. about 1$/GB
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Less than that
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: way down, still overpriced
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe less
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I use a 60 GB SSD as a primary drive in my gaming box with a 2 TB Raid 0 array for storage. I find that the boot/load times on the OS are much better with the SSD.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... would be nice to have one. Maybe when I'm no longer a student... sigh
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have 120GB SSD in my laptop and I'd never go back
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ssds are sooooo expensive her
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 120 was way to expensive when i bought mine :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd rather spend $10 on a SD card and use flashboost
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: here*
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Boot times is not a problem for me personally, I reboot my computer once a month, max. I keep my laptop as a desktop most of the time.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: everything loads faster
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So do I, but I won't bother putting a ssd in my laptop.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: are the prices still falling? Should I hold off on replacing my laptop? I'd want one of those in a new laptop...
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your HD is the tightest bottle neck in your computer
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you're going to spend money anywhere it should be to make the disk faster
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Meh, the transfer wires are a close second :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prices will be perpetually falling...never really a "wait until xx to buy"
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: sata is a huge bottleneck
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, so the consensus on this is to maybe get an SSD :D
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: internet speed is probably actually a bigger factor for a lot of things people care about these days
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, depends on how fast they're falling... as a student, budget can be a bit tight
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: like my pr0n?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but within the computer it's the disk
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, hard drive speed is definitely not my bottleneck
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and also note that SSD reads faster, writes slower
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm not a student, I just don't want to spend money on stuff that I don't need.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: You can get a decent OCZ 480GB SSD for about $350, decent price
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: would be nice to boot quickly if I want to get dbs when I wake up in the middle of the night!
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: meh, you won't notice the write speed change in most cases.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you will really notice the read speed difference tho
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: it'll change, you just won't notice it as much as you'll notice the speed boost
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: everything loads instantly
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: always
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: If you just want to get a 120GB boot drive, you're looking at about $100
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: because it's essentially a big ram stick :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't, cheez
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: thought about those hybrid drives? IE 32gig flash to install os on?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nowhere near
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get 8GB of ram and a SSD and disable swap and you'll be amazed at how slick a computer can feel
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In the most lamen's terms, yes it is :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it isn't
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if I ever get a job where I'm saving well over 50%, I'd feel enough like I was rolling in money to buy nice stuff like that...
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess replacing my laptop from 2007 with a new one will make enough of a difference in speed, but I think I'lll get an SSD if I can.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is orders of magnitude slower than ram
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: SSD is great for a boot drive, at least
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: SSD is great for everything if you're not a disgusting hoarder
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: slower yes, but their usage is the same.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the difference in speed between HDD and SSD is much smaller than the difference in speed between SSD and RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't comparing speeds
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: their usage is not the same
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: usage was the wrong word there
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Magna: only in terms of multiples, but not in terms of actual times
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the usage of an SSD is the same as HDD, not the same as RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: the way they work, is what i needed
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have a NAS for hoarding. I use the local HDD mostly for the OS and code.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I feel like you're being intentionally obtuse at this point.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compare it to a thumb drive, not to RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you're being simply wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the day we can have hundreds of GBs of RAM that persists state without losing its performance we won't need drives
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter how you spin it, you don't compare them to RAM, and especially not in the context of speed which is what your comment was placed in
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No, it wasn't.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it was...read history...let me know which comment you were replying to
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I was referring to how they work, as I've said. If you can't read, that's not my problem bro.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you weren't...you're trying to spin it that way, but you weren't...your ram comment had a "because"...which means you don't get to make up the context
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: can you set the language of settings in cmud when creating them on the command line?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: "#alias foo {bar} lua" doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sigh, i guess i hack it by making it zscript and wrapping the whole code in a #lua block
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: does anyone know offhand if the wait module packaged with aardmush is client independent?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if it is for mush, it is not client independant
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ok, does anyone know if it's for mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? it's packaged with aardmush, so I'd imagine it's for mush
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: iirc it was written by Gammon specifically for Mush, but you might have some luck porting it across
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lots of non-mush related lua files are packaged with aardmush :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might need to play around with what each client calls stuff, or build workalikes
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: luasql and luacom come to mind
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'll just look at the code myself :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, best option...look at the code, see if any calls don't exist at lua.org or just try the calls in cmud to see if they say huh?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody, probably not even gammon himself, would normally be able to answer your question without doing that same thing
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's why i asked if anyone knows offhand :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz he'd likely not remember what he did, other than looking at the thread he references in that file's header
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: looks like it's just calling AddTimer internally, so that'd be a no :(
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but why would we?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, fiendish might
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not likely
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: fiendish might what?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would he care?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he probably doesn't, what's the question?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he knows it works in MUSH, that's as far as he'd need to know
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if the wait module packaged with aardmush is client independent
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, he was wondering if a .lua file included had any MUSHisms
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm just trying to add a delay in a script in cmud, and there's no good way to do it in lua :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cause apparently the only way to set the language of a setting is through the gui
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it is mushclient specific, but could be ported to any client that has the ability to produce timers
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud does, but only in zscript if making them dynamically :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all wait.lua does is abstract the process of making a coroutine
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i just looked at the code
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, can't use #alarm stuff in lua in cmud?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have a delay function that acts like an alarm.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can, but it creates a zscript alarm
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe a systime?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'll just do that and wrap the whole code in a #lua block
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can that alarm then re-call something lua?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: function delay_s(delay) delay = delay or 1 local time_to = os.time() + delay while os.time() < time_to do end end
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it can, it's just overcomplicating it :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm... wouldn't that lock the lua thread though, etz?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not if you put it in its own thread.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think. I haven't used it lately, so now I forget.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: so im gunna try to set up an alias, but im gunna need to read up on what the differant symbols do in an alias. im looking for a chart that shows what all the %'s and *'s mean
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for aardwolf aliases, those don't mean anything
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: anyone know where i can go to find something educational on mush client?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient has great in-client helps and a good website
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: my overall aim is to make al alias that makes it super easy to program portals into mapper.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: my client side help doesnt work. never has. always give me an error tryn to load
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish...go to his site, MUSHclient...the wiki of that site has gobs of info on the aard MUSHclient and its included plugins...on the wiki there, click included plugins, click featured plugins, click GMCP driven world mapper...on that page is a "More tips" link with great info on making portals for the mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: getting the in-client help working is a snap for you
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're using either Vista or Windows 7, which simply don't include the Windows helpfile viewer
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download it from here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok ill do the help first
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya windows 7
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: so ill be back if i need help, thanks for pointing me in right directions on both topics
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmmm genuine windows. lame. i dont think mine is, i had a friend redo everything on my computer cuz it was droped and stoped working...cant fix my help file loader
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh hey, its validated. nevermind, might work afterall
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how doi figure out what one i need???? i trie the windoes 7 32x one, i thought thats what i woulda needed
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: it said it wasnt compatible tho
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click my computer, go to properties
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless you're talking drivers, if in doubt, get the 32-bit. It will usually be better tested, and will always be compatible with 64-bit windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya, it says windows 7 home    32bit
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The advantages of 64-bit are almost always miniscule for everyday applications
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: thats what i tried^^
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, will not always be compatible with 64-bit windows
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mycomputer properties says windows 7, 32 bit
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: soon the world will run on android..just settle down windows nerd
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What is designed for x86 but won't work with 64-bit and isn't a driver?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of things won't run their 32-bit version on 64-bit windows
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: name the top 10
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Compatibility mode, boom.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compatibility mode won't help
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Name one, because I've never encountered anything like that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few office products
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Care to be a little more specific, in a 'lets me test it' sort of way? :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok, anyone know what i can do tho??
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: oo i think she called you a liar abelinc
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at 4am and nowhere near a 64-bit W7 computer and software installers? no
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i always keep two orbs
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i didnt call anyone a liar. i was just asking for help with this help file reader thing..
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I believe he was referring to me? And a swift google search yields exactly no person talking about incompatibilities moving backwards to 32 bit. Heaps of queries, but the conversation always goes 'just run it, it will be fine' 'oh thanks, yes it was fine'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't even install many things, which is where this thread started...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh awesome, we started an arguement when someone just needed help. *pat vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the reason that you can't even install them, is because the publisher knows already that it will not run properly, so have limited the bitches from people who installed and ran into incompatibilities
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: well i went with a 86bit one or some crap
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: made it further in the install than i did with the 32x one, no error yet
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: x86 is what 32bit is called...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: cody what are you attempting? i missed it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's getting winhlp32.exe so that he can use the in-client helps with MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Will there ever be a i9 CPU from intel, or will the next series have some completely different name?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: it installed Abe, but mushhelp still not loading, should i restart/
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ahh, not familiar with stuff relating to the client
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: gl!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aqiz: it's not really relating to the client, it's just  relating to using standard windows .hlp files
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, restart MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok brb
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: possibly may need to right-click the helpfile itself and go to properties, and select unblock, depending on your security settings (you'll see it when you get back if you need ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: still not working. should i restart pc?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try the thing in tech -h 5
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: wheres the mush help files at?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient folder...MUSHCLIENT.HLP
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should have a blue ? icon
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody tosses you up in the air, Wheeeeee!!! Again!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: perfect, works now!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blocking setting is also what causes a program to ask "do you really want to run?" when you try to start them
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if MUSH bugs you with that each time, do that to the main executable as well
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: and i can unblock thos as well...i hate that message. lol
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's basically just because they were downloaded from the big bad Internet and didn't go through an installer
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: like always, thanks a million Abe, your so helpful
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok i need a break, illbe back for more help with making that alias if i get stuck. thanks again.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck with the aliases & portals...when you're in a config part of MUSHclient (like in an alias definition window) and click the help button, it'll pop up right to the help about that feature rather than having to find your way there
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh wow, that should help out some too.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: abe, how do i open help when looking at aliases and what not, u said something but im confused
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: wont let me hit help when config windows open
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: nevermind i got it, had to use F1, hotkey to open help. and yes, it does open to useful pages related to what i need. thanks again
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, cody: when you're in a config window, instead of F1 or the help menu, the window itself has a "help" button at the bottom
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok i need help.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: my alias is "proport * *" my match: is "mapper portal get %1 %2;;hold %1;;enter;;dualaa;;put %1 %2"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: but doesnt work.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "doesnt work" could be a number of things. Can you narrow it down?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: its not reading the ;'s right or something
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Have you tried just single ;'s?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah, that second 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: no i have not.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah, that second 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or rather, getting ride of it and putting each on its own line?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol it is
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: -e.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i figured it needs to be all one line, asim programing portals, and figured the mapper wouldneed it all on one line.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're making an alias, you don't.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, wait.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, you shouldn't need to put them all on one line.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: send to: =?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Execute, maybe. Not 100% sure.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: MUSH isn't my client, so I just try to piece things together from things I've read.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya it only programs the first line, when i remove the ;'s
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, so what does mapper portal do?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Does it set a portal or something?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's making a meta-alias...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so he does want the alias to have multiple ;s
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: yaya abe!!! i know u can figure this out ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then it should be all one line, send to Execute then, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i tried that Etzli
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i tried with 1 and 2 ;'s as well
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Execute("mapper portal %1;;blah blah blah") --> Send to Script?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is going to give up soon enough.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: error [string "Alias: "]:1: '=' expected near 'portal'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh hey i think i got it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: send to execute with 2 ;'s
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: yup, worked! thankyou for helping.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would set it to execute, but wouldn't use Execute()...but you can use the exact alias that the webpage I showed has
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ... You told me you did ;; when I asked about send to execute...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i had tried it...it was giving me an error before i thought Etzli,sorry in noob at these things
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on Fiendish's wiki page for the mapper...that "More Tips" link...that link culminates in a "The ultimate, super dooper setportal macro"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh awesome Abe, i was mostly trying to educate myself now that i had help files, rather try to learn then just download others stuff. but i really am extreamly appreciative for your help.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that page is all about learning and there's nothing to execute
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it steps you through the thought process that you'll want to have when thinking about making the portal aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: right on, ill be taking a look at it for sure. i just got sucked into these help files at the moment.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starts with "wear portal ;; enter"...then adds in "but you'll want to get it from a bag", etc
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: the portal alias i just made programs my portals exactly how i needed.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: prolly not the right way to do it, but im proud i made it work
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, you ended up pretty much in the same place
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mapper portal get %1 %2;;hold %1;;enter;;dualaa;;put %1 %2
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: thats what it looks like
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he also covers cexits with doors
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you're going to be doing the same sort of action for every portal, you may want to consider making it a seperate alias to pull out of bag etc etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Otherwise, changing them all (when you get the portal wish, for example) will be a nightmare.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jhav: he is going to just be typing "proport portalname bagname"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: it gets and returns portal to bag.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: will i be able to hold a portal with portal wish, like be wering one and hold one?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: if not, this couldlatr conflict.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: with portal wish, what happens if i type "hold portalname"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If he is literally entering the mapper portal line he had on tech just a minute ago, that is not what he is doing, Abelinc :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wears it in the portal slot
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jhav: that line is what the "proport" alias he just worked out making does
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: you will hold the portal, but it has its own slot
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look further back
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: allowing you to keep you dual wielded weapons or shield and held item
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can stilluse the verb "hold", but you won't then be wearing one in a portal slot and another in held slot
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: Abe, what i have will be ok with portal wish as well right? im confused now
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it'll work with portal wish
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: My point was that the contents of the mapper portal command itself might be made into an alias.  But whatever you like.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acheos grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no real benefit, just more-cluttered alias list
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: Thank you very much. i appreciate all the help.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: One more alias, versus having every mapper portal command be incredibly verbose whenever you examine the list?  Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did it closer to what you're describing, jhav (but also not in MUSH or using a mapper)...but there's not really a benefit, and are some drawbacks in the mapper context
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, I misunderstood a bit what you were getting at I think
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd have a use-portal * * alias, then the proport alias which does mapper portal use-portal * *
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was thinking you meant making an alias for the portals, then mapper portal aliasname, which would get cluttered
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i still dont know what he means, but ill learn more and more sooner or later
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cody: he means if you had one alias, something like "useportal * *" that does the "get foo from bar, wear foo, enter, wearnormal, put foo bar"...then your proport alias could do mapper portal useportal %1 %2...then when you list your portals in "mapper portals", the action will be just "useportal portalname portalbag" rather than the whole enchilada of get from bag, wear, enter, wearnormal, put back"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just one more level of abstraction
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't operate any differently than yours already does, just easier to look at in mapper portals list
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you ever were to change how you use portals in general, then you could change that useportal alias (i.e. it'd make your question of "does portal wish change anything" moot)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh i see... as it does what i need ill leave it. i did consider tryn to add alias for portalbag, but this works.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok, this is probably basic for most of you... I have a pc, and a laptop.  How do remotely access my pc from my laptop (in the same wireless network)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: what operating system?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: windows 7 on both
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: depends
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I know there is a "Remote desktop" feature, but the help files say to check with an IT administrator to get the URL
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: google pupblic ip
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: public*
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: that is the ip that the desktop has facing 'the internet"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: no, he is on the same network
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: depends on the windows 7 version. if its home premium, rdp isn't available.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: but i believe there is a hack workaround on goole somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ... ok how about this, why?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: google somewhere
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: cause its not a feature in home premium
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: same as home premium can't join a domain.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or use a vnc client
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use also vnc (TightVNC)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: no, why do we need to remote in a pc that we have acces to?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or teamviewer for easy setup
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: hmm, ok, seemed like it would be easier.  I use splashtop on my phone, and it can access my PC easily
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: teamviewer is not nice tool
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, it opens a lot of connections and involves 3rd party
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: "access" means remote control or do you just want to open/copy files?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: aqiz, long story:)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so what. nothing comes close when you need to assist someone who doesn't have vnc or anything installed on their computer
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hey, run this app and tell me the two numbers. that's it. use it all the time
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: looking to access
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: remote assistance doesn't work for that?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: that was my original question, how to run remote assistance
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: If you only need to move/copy files on the home PC, you dont need to RDP
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I've never used it, and I figured folks on here would know
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: remote assistance is interactive at both ends. you don't use it like that.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I need to remotely use my pc from within the house (same network).  if it is not easy, that's ok, I'll forget about it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: it is great for helping somebody.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you were answered, use teamviewer (easiest to setup) or vnc (3rd party servers)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Nah, its easy.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's very easy. install a vnc client
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: vnc is easy
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok, will do, thanks! :)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry, vnc - no 3rd party servers, just install on both machines TightVNC 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Aye, what they said.  A VNC client will serve your purpose.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: install someflavorvnc server on the desktop and someflavorvnc client on the laptop.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why does my attempt to SSH out always fail with 'broken pipe' or no message at all? Is it purely a timeout issue?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have tg3 then check TCP offload settings
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone know if it is possible to turn off underlining of MXP in cMUD?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Can someone tell me why most commands I put in need to be put in twice?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have a script eating the first ones.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: How would that work on the default MUSHclient 4.84?  I have made no user scripts, unless you count putting quick commands to the keypad.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it already comes shipped with several plugins installed, doesn't it?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: True, but has anyone else mentioned this that uses MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably not, at least not without having it pointed out that the user was doing something wrong in one of their scripts.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is "most" commands? Are there commands you don't have to put in twice?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: It's random with every command, hence I say 'most'.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: It's not limited to commands either.  Really, anything I type in or use my quick-keypad for.  Sometimes movement.  Sometimes typing to kick, dust, kobold, cast, etc...  Sometimes even to post 'says' or talk in channels.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does it ever happen if you are typing the commands on your regular keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Example...  I type 'examine whatever' and nothing happens, so I tap the up arrow to re-input the last text and do it again.  Voila, good.  I type 'invsort type' and my inventory pops up.  I hit enter to page further and nothing happenes.  I hit enter again and boom, there it is.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: It should be mentioned that every time this happens, my windows does page down one line as though it was attempting to read my input.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as many times as you press enter and get nothing?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: get clean install of mushclient then
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or turn all plugins off and find culprit turning them on one-by-one
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, turn you triggers and aliases off
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Not sure how to answer that...  I press enter after initial input to get nothing.  If I hit it again, it simple pages down with the char info line.  If I tap the up arrow to re-input, it takes.  
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is also one more possiblity - problem with your system
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, get clean install - if works ok, then problem is with your current mushclient setup
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: this is my fifth install of MUSH because I thought that would help.  I also have no aliases or triggers that I made myself, unless they are pre-installed with the clean client.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I have no outside plugins other than those that came with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could check also with plain telnet whether there is the same effect
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though you should consider, that something wrong is going with keylogger or trojan
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't really matter.  Data is data, and all data has an equal chance of getting corrupted.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I will check on regular telnet and see if it happens there.  Though, I've played on Achaea MUD without such an effect.  Only seems to be here, and not only from my system.  I also play on my android when I'm not near my PC and it happens there too.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if your system is clean, then maybe problem with mud-side setting
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try creating alt and veryfy that other character also has the same problems
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Telnet site out of Detroit, near home works okay.  Just wrote a bunch of one lines of gibberish and none needed doubled.  I will try the alt and may get back to ya, or whoever.  Thanks for the info folks.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: If y'all are still around that heard my whine about having to double post commands, I ran around with an alt named Xiar and put in some random commands, and each one went through without a problem.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Note - I just had to input this twice using the up arrow to re-input it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you have any mudside aliases set?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because what you are describing is like...impossible
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I'm not MUD savvy enough to make aliases or scripts.  I just play.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wish I could make heads or tails of the symptoms you've described so far
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but none of it makes logical sense
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx is agreeing with that The Jerk Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Me too.  I thought it was my connection, because I hotspot from a mifi device, but if the alt was fine, and a regular telnet chat is fine...  I'm stumped, hence the asking of the awesome tech-minds.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume the alt was using the same client setup
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Sure was.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No aliases/triggers that your alt didn't have?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: MUSH 4.84 clean, no plugins, no aliases, no triggers, no scripting, aside from what comes natural.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Aard mush, or vanilla mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Aard MUSH from the site.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I came in late, so let me verify what i read on history. You're saying tha periodically and without rhyme or reason, the client 'eats' some of your commands, correct?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it sounds like he's using a stock aardmush install
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cheezburger: but only on this char and not with an alt
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Correct Cheez, and correct Fiend
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: might sound stupid but at the which you had to double send were you reading a note.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that makes no damn sense if it's a stock install.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: delete the aardmush folder and redownload/run?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I vaguely recall some person had similar problems, and it was with mud side settings
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: but it should do it on his alt if it's the mush setup
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: the only thing you might be losing is what you've mapped.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Styx: he did that 5 times already
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Dhovar: when you type 'alias' does it say anything?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I also noted earlier that it is not only in this client.  It also happens when I play this character on the Android client.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: gotta be mudside then.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: i'd suggest turning on echocommands, and see if the mud registers your sending anything at all when it fails to send
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: 'You have no aliases defined.'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Cheez, how do I go about doing that?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: type echocom
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what about prompt reset ?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Wait a sec
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can't imagine why the prompt would break his commands
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: type config all, does your prompt end in %c?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if he's using the aardmush package it does now
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (well it should. if it doesn't that's a bug I guess)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nods. Go ahead and check it, Dhovar.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use pastebin and post your config all output
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: It does end in %c
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: both?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type 'p data' 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could have turned raw colors
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What's your pagesize set at, Dhovar? Perhaps your getting a paging prompt, and not seeing it for some reason. There are a limited number of commands that are accepted at a paging prompt. That would also explain the random nature of it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I typed 'p data'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: %%c at the end of both of them?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: erm %c
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: how do you mark a room as no portal on mapper?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: %c on the prompt would not affect this either way
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mapper portal [alias to use portal]
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try to use a portal in it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: -- %c at the end of both regular and  at the end of raw
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: oh, misread that question. my bad.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wreck-It Roninleader grins evilly at Chaz Bono Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: rawcolors adds @w. that's not a problem
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Dhovar: When you typed config all the first time, did you happen to see what you have your pagesize set at?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just type 'pagesize'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Pagesize 36, I did change that because of my window size.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If it has a value set, do 'pagesize 0' and remove it. Let MUSH handle the pagination.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: or just do pagesize 0 to disable
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: k, thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mmm...I'd set it to something like 400 instead
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think MUSHclient can still disconnect on note list
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Meh, if slist can't choke mush, there's not much that'll overflow that buffer easily :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it happens to me sometimes
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, note list on ideas, forget about that sometimes
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one day I might bug nick about it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: post output of 'config all' on http://pastebin.com and give link
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's such a small use-case though, i doubt it's worth his time.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qR9vmBr6
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I see you turned pagesize off, try playing like that for a while and see if you see it happen again. I bet it was the page prompt eating your commands.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I've been moving around and 'eating/drinking/ so my guy don't whither, and I haven't had to double post.  I think that was it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yay :)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: <--applauds!  Thanks guys!  Fingers crossed it keeps going smooth!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Hey fiend, is there a way to ditch the timestamps in the chat window of the aardmush package?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way to share cmud maps without replacing portals?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not without editing the database manually
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: where are the portals stored, if not in the .dbm file?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're in the .db file
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, sorry, cmud
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's considerably harder to share portions of a mapfile, true, but between the .dbm file and the .zfg file there shouldn't be anything about the mapper functionality that cannot be transported.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: right, but he doesn't want to replace portals :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but myrk was saying OTHER than accessing the db directly
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: could anyone help me move my gui in mush for search and destroy i managed to drag it out of cursors reach?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: im trying to work on my mapping for knossos. what is the best way to go about that? one line alias/cexit for getting the the passport and id?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Set the custom exit to go north past the first guard to get both, and a cexit for the 2nd guard to just give him the pasport
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: define alias from entrance
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: maybe someone could just c&p their own alias for that area and note it to me, so i can be lazy and not do the work myself? :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Do it yourself.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's not that hard :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: laziness does not generally take into consideration difficulty. :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: buy ok, ill work on that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I prefer to cexit it from the start of the area:P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: did any of you read cerashor's q?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I raed it, but have no idea. I don't use S&D gui.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: what do you do when you move the gui thingy out of cursor reach?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: where is fiendish!?! :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and nod, I'd make it as a cexit from Before a Great City to Castle Checkpoint
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: On the rest of the windows I'd just do resetaard, but I don't know if that'll work on the S&D windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You need Winkle for this one
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wreck-It Roninleader pokes The Jerk Fiendish in the ribs.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Fiendish didn't write S&D, Ronin
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That would be Winklewinkle.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i know that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: thanks for the feedback i'll trry reinstall mush
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I think there's a command to reset gui
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I wouldn't, Cerashor
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: like xset reset gui or something
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a command to reset the gui of winkle's stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at BobTheGreat.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: winkle is just not on a lot as far as i know, and fiendish is pretty up to speed on most of this type of stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and barring that, when a plugin does not have a command (and what you did before it had one), you just delete the state file of that one plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: On the mush package he works on, not other people's plugins.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Confirmed, it's xset reset gui, Cerashor
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Just tested it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: WOOOOOO
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish will offer pretty much zero support for anything S&D related, particularly given that he doesn't approve of its very existence :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: managed loving these techies
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods sagely to you.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but he would tell you how to remove a state file
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I was fairly sure Winkle wouldn't included a way to do it programmatically, that's why I didn't suggest the state file earlier.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: state files are named for both the worldID and the pluginID, and are in the plugins -> state folder
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: would've*
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't until recently
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Seems like a pretty large oversight, then
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: at least it's there now for the users.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a pretty normal oversight...since you can't drag it to where you can't get to it, why would you think it would ever be there?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Differing screen sizes on a portable client.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but someone who doesn't use differing screen sizes or multiple computers from a usb drive won't necessarily go there in the planning process
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: For lazy people: here is the Knossos sw -> http://pastebin.com/Lh9GMd8f
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger tsks BobTheGreat.  You feel sorry for him.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: make them do their own work :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Nah, I'm lazy too so I share what I got :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: thank you bob!!! I shall make a manor mob in your honor. :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, but you didn't format it for a cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I know how they feel ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Nah, because I haven't done that yet Abe :)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nor open the door
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm a shadow - no opening doors needed (right, probably should change that)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always include opening the door
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can shadow toggle nopass, or is that wish-only?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You do not have the pass door wish.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Never tried tbh, Abe
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: there's that answer :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a handy toggle for "distributable" speedwalks :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It actually should be allowed, I can land/fly but no wish
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: i agree, bug post it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is a bit painful to change class later from shadow to something else
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: idea, not bug
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: err, yeah idea
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: since when can shades go solid on demand?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can't, that's what we're discussing
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: doesnt fit rp wise, very important to this game
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I asked if they could, Bob verified they cannot...passdoor wish users can go solid on demand
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its a wish, not being an actual shade
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Shades can hold weapons and open doors, why shouldn't they be able to walk INTO a door if they chose?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat nods at Big Meaty Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: they can, certain doors...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But we can't only hold CERTAIN weapons
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: But they can 'open' any door, therefor they can obviously interact with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, shades can bump into certain doors
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ok, so at the entrance to knossos, i just treat the whole command line like a single cexit?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the ones that should be fixed. unlocked nopass doors
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: make sure to double your ;s
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yes, but set cexit_wait to something like 10.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what if Shades get the passdoor-wish so they may go solid
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd make 2 cexits...one with all but the second give, and the second one just give
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat is agreeing with that Zade person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: dont get why you'd open passable doors anyways on your mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods sagely to you.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's what I suggested in the first place
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: double my s's?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No, your semicolons
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i have also never use a mapper wait before
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ie: ;; instead of ;
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mokg: because you may not always be a shade, and to make it distributable/shareable
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: My whole mapper DB assumes passdoor :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my speedwalk file is the same for all of my characters...not all have passdoor
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's not a good thing to do if you ever plan to share, bob
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: And if you change race, you're kinda hosed.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Passdoor wish!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least until you get the wish
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: passdoor wish. boom! :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or the spell
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: what does double semi's do cheez?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Or be a nice guy and make cexits doors
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ronin: it's necessary for cexit definitions
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: They prevent MUSH from parsing it as separate commands
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: you have to double them or mush will think you're sending multiple commands instead of one cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh, so it wont become a stop motion cartoon? lol
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you "mapper cexit command1 ; command2", MUSH would "mapper cexit command1"....then it would execute command2
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: whereas cexit open n;;n would be one single cexit, versus what abe just showed.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: wow, thank you! I'm sure that is why I have been having so much trouble cexiting certain areas. :P :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why everyone using MUSHclient should be constantly on Fiendish's site, where all the plugins are described, and how to do various things is explained...and should read "mapper help" stuff...doubling your ;s is in "mapper help exits", under the "mapper cexit" part...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like you used shift for one of your ;s ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Hate that crap, so hard to catch too :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Luckily he knows his mistake is right before "run nes"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ronin: Remove the 'give pass guard', use that as a second cexit in the next room instead.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: actually, i put "mapper cexit_wait 10" before the rest of the other commands. not the right way to do it, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or add a wait
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i just asked abelinc that via tell. why the wait or 2nd cexit?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 cexits allow you to actually get to either room
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But why would you want to be in the 2nd guard's room? Are there any q'able or cp'able movs there?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using mapper goto <a room past both guards> will work both ways
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh, in the extremely rare instance I might want to wait in that middle room
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: say you want to help someone who's stuck there...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: in all honesty, that is probably not important to me.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods, you'll never need to kill anything in that room, but it's ignorant to assume you'll never want in there period
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let's put it this way...what reason would you have for wholly-preventing the mapper from knowing how to get to the second room?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i would just goe there manually to do that probably
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Because it takes a lot more keystrokes to type 'mapper cexit xx' again :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one has possible benefits, the other has none
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ive only been using mapper for 2 weeks tops. 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter how long you've been using it...do you want to do it RIGHT?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: And we're explaining to you the most flexible, efficient way to do it. There's no performance loss by changing it to a second exit
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: yeah yeah yeah, you are right. :P I know you are.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, there amy be a performance change, but if there is it's negligable.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, no performance change
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: nice mis :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: how do I make my pc stop hibernating?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: desktop properties
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: wai till summer
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: wait*
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You groan at the sight of Grissom.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i couldnt resist
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can right-click anywhere on the desktop without an icon, to go to properties...then screen saver tab, power
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: got it thanks, couldnt remember the power management part
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Damn Mushclient, having a hard time configuring the windows to display properly after copying over to my laptop
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That'll move them all back into view for your screen size.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: that worked
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: How do I close some of the individual windows that I had open.  Right clicking gives me no option for it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I'm such a MUSHclient noob
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can just send to back in the right-click option, or many of them have a "hide" command
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like mapper hide/mapper show
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I like that mapper, but want to get rid of the other crappy one.  Also dont need another of the windows, but dont seem to have a send to background option
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Anyway to auto-maximize everything so that all the windows fill the entire screen? I have a lot of grey space at the bottom?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You will find several situations where the gmcp mapper breaks down for assistance, but the ascii mapper still helps
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't have a send to back option, then it's not a plugin that shipped with aardmush, so the command would be dependent on what the author programmed
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Yeah, not a big fan of the ascii map
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I liked the days when we had no map. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works in mazes, the main mapper doesn't...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I could still run to the lowest level of hell blind from memory, and I hadn't been there since 2000 or so. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: correction, gmcp doesn't work in mazes.  It's very much possible to get a mapper to work in mazes, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "a" mapper is not the mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we weren't discussing "a" mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and gmcp does work in mazes, it just doesn't display exits
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't work usefully, then.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It displays exits, just not the room id associated with those exits.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Geez, get your facts straight!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: With Cmud, If i create an alias via command line.  IE #alias test {testcommand}  How do i nest it in a folder?  
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd probably have to go to organize and drag it from root or similar
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all the commands that create stuff include a parameter to specify the location to create it in.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: going from memory here, but I think it's #alias name(optional parameters) {code} "class"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: that worked, thank you!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: is there an plug in that captures the names of the mobs of the room you are currently in and displays it in a window for you?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sort of.  I think someone's got an autoconsider plugin that effectively does the same as what you want.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: any idea what the name is?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mush_google_for_autoconsider.xml, I think.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: thanks man
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bast has one i think... though it may be a but buggy
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't have anything that does what he wants
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: is there a way to "point" the mapper to choose one path over another?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: atm, it is going to killing fields via the flying citidel portal, which is twice as many steps as the amulet.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh! I answered my own question. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i dont have the amulet set yet. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can have it learn the portals, and if you want to take the overland route I believe you can set exit or room costs.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i havent figured out how I want to handle the aard amulet yet
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i dont have amulet aliased to anything. im simply always wearing it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: im not sure how to anything will change like, when im using a tiger of kai at sh
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: is it just as simple as aliasing it to amulet and that is it?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: cause right now i just type "en" and dont think about it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: somehow the mapper can learn your portals, so I think it's technically even easier than that.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aliasing would be for handling arbitrary extra steps like pulling portals out of bags.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: right.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: my mapper handles portals like this: map createportal <to room ID> "<command>"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: what im wondering is, if i want to wear tiger of kai as my standby, what is the best way to alias the amulet so it is still easy to work with?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The way I've got mine setup ronin - is I have an alias that takes a vnum as an argument. So Portal <vnum>. What it does is gets the vnum portal from my bag, equips it, enters it, removes it, reequips my tiger of kai, and puts the portal back in the bag
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: surely someone else has had to work this out before
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: my alias is hotel, and it sends "hold amulet;enter;hold gladiator;hold kai"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then for the mapper - I juse use mapper portap portal <vnum>
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah hotel alias ftw
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so the mapper only calls the alias with the vnum of the desired portal
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: makes it easy to change
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I just use a variable that I change a few times a mort
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i think that means im going to have to stop typing just "en" lol
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #alias {hot} {hold 'aard amulet';enter;am}
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #alias {am} {hold @portal}
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: and then another alias to set the portal variable
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Variable would be a nice addition - but i started collecting portals after SHing and not morted since.. so... works =p
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: won't the mapper automatically use the right portal when it figures out which way to go?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that's harder than ingame alias
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if youre using the mapper you prob are using mush
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hans... you need to enter the command to equip/enter the portal in to the mapper. it doesn't do it itself
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use mush... ingame alias is just easier
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But much less powerful.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: then fiddling around changing mush aliases or the mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: thing is hans, when i want to pick up heal pots 2 east of recall, i just type "en, e, e." im trying to come up with a way that those kinds of things dont become inconvient
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: daloran i use both
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so that comment was false
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No it's not =p the in game aliases are incredibly limited.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not when you know how to use them
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so basically you're using a plugin-internal alias (the part of the mapper that arrives at "I have to use a portal here") to call another alias (the external alias you use to get/wear/enter portal)?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod hans
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: glad someone has a brain
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Santher... It's not a matter of knowing how to use them, they are much more limited then mush aliases =p it's not even a contest
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you want to think of them in that limited way, sure
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: all I have to do is type portal glad, or portal kai to switch out which portal gets automatically reheld. I could even trigger it for when I leveled up to do it automatically but its so easy already there's no point
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Santher... Are you trolling? Because honestly, there is nothing an in game alias can do that mush can't just as easily.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have an alias port * that is "get %1 portalbag;wear %1;enter;wear muletid;put %1 portalbag", which wears the portal from the argument and then reequips my amulet when I am done, then a simple portal command for the mapper is 'mapper portal port "portalkeyword"'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ah, see that is the kind of solution i am looking for mokg
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no i was suggesting a tip i learned awhile ago...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that works good
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: changing an ingame alias is easier than fiddling with the mapper portal list
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: all I have to do is type "runto <areaname>" and my client and the mapper know if a portal I can equip is the fastest way to get there and automatically gets it out of my bag, wears it, enters, then puts back on my aard amulet and finishes running to the area
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You don't have to touch the portal list, santher
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: single alias that the mapper calls. you just add each portal to the mapper by vnum.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so now i get the long winded explaintion while i could have changed my ingame alias 20 times?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So now if I change something - I change one alias, instead of changing 20 in game aliases.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: why would you be changing any aliases ever?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: maybe you have to
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bertilak.. only if you wanted to change your held portal for stats. You could use a variable as well, but I havent' had a need to change mine.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aard aliases would be for multi-device mobility when you wouldn't necessarily have the power of mush backing you up.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that too
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but my comment was that mush aliases were more powerful, not more accessible.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i wasn't agruing that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Actually you did =p
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i was talking about a specific case
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I said that they were incredibly limited, and that mush was much more powerful. And you said "[06 Jan 18:48:28] Santher Tech: not when you know how to use them"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: where an ingame alias can be easier
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: which you obviously took the wrong way
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: Rule 1 of a good debate: At least know what point is being argued. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres no situation where knowing how to use them makes them less limited, or more powerful.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Regardless. The single alias in the mapper has worked for me, Mokg, and probably many others. If you disagree, thats certainly your option to do so.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ftr, I use ingame aliases for ltag, since they are way easier to deal with. :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mokg listed 3
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: perhaps some reading glasses?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the ingame runto alias works quite well for a lot of players, as well.  Even with the mapper and improved movement logic.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I listed two. only one that you actually interact with
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No Santher, I read what he said just fine.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh it was 2
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i said 1
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't mean that the ingame runto is better or just as good.  It just means the person doesn't take advantage of the tools he's already working with.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ingame aliases are nicer for simple commands which may or may not have an argument...I use them for my spells
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: alias door c door, for example.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Never said they weren't simpler, either =p
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: me too, except this keeps happening: You have reached the max number of 60 aliases allowed.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so you had a point?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: alias grb group create [Cast'rate] (BA'ALLESS)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Another one of mine.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which you seem to have missed.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so each damtype or type of spell has an ingame alias..."li" for electric, "im" for fire, etc..."li" or "li foo" in one alias without making it a regex with logic behind it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, lunch time for me anyway. It's been fun. o/
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: see ya
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then I can use an in-client tool to /nuke foo, which performs a couple attacks using in-game aliases :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: thank you abe for explaining the uses for ingame aliases with mush :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: Abe I'm not sure I get why you would do that by using in-game aliases?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or any other client
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bertilak: because the in-game alias is MUCH more flexible without going to trouble
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He can modify in-game aliases to whatever he likes.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the in-game alias doesn't need to know if arguments are coming when it's defined
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard only cares that "the first word of a command is this"...MUSH wants a pattern to match the entire command
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods i use mush and ingame for the same command...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not true
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (I don't use MUSH, and my client's alias mechanism is actually closer to the way the game's work)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can construct aliases in mushclient that don't care if they have parameters
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is quite true...there are just multiple ways to accomplish said pattern
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but then they need one
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: yeah I'm thinking you aren't using a very user-friendly client, Abe
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but you must construct them
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't have to do anything spceial
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what's the secret then?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except make a pattern which would not be normal, and tell the action about the argument
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was never about capability...I stated that MUSH can do it, but you're jumping through some hoops to do so...not big hoops, but bigger than necessary, and certainly bigger than the in-game requires
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mm
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "alias li c 'spear of odin'"...vs alias of "li( .*?)?" send "c 'spear of odin' %1"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use a kk ingame alias for bypassing my target/shoot script and "kk" mush alias to add last target...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which do you see as being the quick easy answer for something that you want to redefine whenever you get a newer spell of that damtype/healtype
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's a real pain to get mush not pass a var sometimes vs not
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: easier to let ingame handle it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you could just set up mush to have a variable for the part in parenthesis and then define that with a simple alias like "lightning 'spear of odin'"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: otherwise you need all that if %1 == null or whatever///
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use complexity when you want additional functionality, let them complement each other...it's not an either/or thing, I've got plenty of in-client and aard ones :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: and then when you get a new lightning spell just use "lightning 'spellname'"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bert: yep, but adding even MORE levels of complexity still isn't making it less complex :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "alias cl c heal", everyone reads it, everyone understands it, can type it without remembering what abstract function I wrote for it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you can set up an req
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: has anyone attempted to install newznab before?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: on mint
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: how gave you guys work the labyrinth area with mapper?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: im tempted to add run en to the alias, but the mobs at the starts are gq mobs.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: make a custom exit to run en
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: It will only take you there if it has to
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: duh! ty!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your alias should only be "mapper goto xxx"...always let the mapper deal with how to get where you're trying to go and don't manually alias any directions
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: well, i have a wooden yoke, so that is aliased as the portal there. i just see a cexit in the first room for "run en," but the mapper doesnt recognize it for some reason
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: haha. umm, how do i unclear the gui? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh, just retype xcp
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ronin: if you "mapper goto 31407", what happens?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: doesnt work for me
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't ask if it worked...asked what happens :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is anybody an outlook wizard?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I can google really well.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably not better than I can, SuperJayT, but then again, that's part of my job. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: +------------------------------ START OF SEARCH -------------------------------+ etc, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so like, my outlook has 4 POP inboxes
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I prefer IMAP, but go on.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and in a couple of them, I can't see sent emails for more than a year old
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I would like to see those old sent items
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but the archive.pst file doesn't bring them back
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: would they be being autoarchived somewhere else?  or am I doing something wrong to see them in the archive.pst?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: probably autoarchive settings
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I have autoarchive set to never delete old items, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: make sure there's not a rule specific to that folder?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how hard would it be for aardwolf to be able to identify unique subnets of players?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it already does
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do you know
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you think it doesn't?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I don't know anything about that stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then why would you even ask?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: curious
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i wondering what you mean by subnet?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ability to recognize subnets is what forms the basis for the siteban functions...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: whatever you would think i mean by "unique subnet"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so subnet = isp?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: subnet has a very specific IP networking meaning...but you've already stated that you don't know anything about it...so yes, we're curious what you think you're talking about...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: assume someone who knows what they are talking about said they could ID unique subnets connecting to aard.  how plausible is that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: The word subnet may refer to:
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's entirely not plausible that someone external to Aard or the datacenter to do so
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aardwolf cannot tell that you are playing aard from a specific machine, because anything on the opposing end of your router has the same IP address.  If you first go to a proxy, I'm not sure aard can trace back from that proxy to your router.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: apparently has more than 1 meaning
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods aard doesn't see through routers...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't think anything does.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard sees through routers just fine
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you'd be wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's nat that it can't see through
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard is seeing through a dozen routers to  see your IP
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but it can't see through the final one?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it can
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: since when?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: provided that one is not using nat
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since always
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not last time i tried
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 98% of home routers are using nat, so it cannot normally see past the router in your house to know which of your 3 computers you're on...but why would that matter?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not that it's "the last one"...it's that it's "the one providing NAT"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no number of routers, first, last or otherwise, which cannot be seen through in a non-nat configuration
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: multiplay implications.  If it could tell which machine you're on, a whole lot of multiplay could legally occur with simplistic checkups.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it matters when you get falsly accused of multiplaying
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it still wouldn't matter
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can use dozens of real separate IPs and I'd still be convicted of multiplaying
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i guess they could still accuse you, nods
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard will never rely on what any router is going to claim
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's like getting nuked for botting without botting *nods*
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, nobody's nuked for multiplaying without some one-on-one time
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods i was jailed once for it and ended deleting that chr...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: man that was a long time ago
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well sure, that's the smart answer...kill yourself before they can get the satisfaction...rather than trying to show innocence or remorse :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh i did all that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it was weeks later
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no need to look remorseful when you're not guilty
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the only way you get nuked for botting without botting is if Lasher had his evil switch flipped by mistake.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was an either/or...you hadn't actually claimed guilt or innocence in this instance yet ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nobody was talking to me... so i broke outta jail and then deleted after because i couldn't get my stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you took a zibest to the face, though, he'd probably nuke you for other reasons.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hard to claim innocence when you get ignored
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: a fellow jail breaker!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I think they fixed all the old methods
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: last time i tried i was still in jail
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: oh wait i never got help on my outlook question
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: people still use that? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if I'm running 4 POP inboxes, and looks like 1 of them is doing something (Archiving?) with items in the sent folder > 1 year old
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what's the culprit and what should I do to read them?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: use imap instead if you want to keep the mail on the server, pop is for download and remove normally
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'm happy to download it, I just don't want it deleted
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: unless servers are willing to keep many GB on them
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sent items for pop mailboxes have nothing to do with servers...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unlike imap and mapi, there is no concept of a sent box for pop3
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so outlook is the only thing that has any control over them, and they cannot sync between computers
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: oh wait, problem solved
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: looks like the archive.pst file aggregates archives across all the outlook inboxes/sent boxes, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmm. I should switch back to using outlook instead of gmails web interface
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I prefer Thunderbird myself.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i hate gmail's email interface
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or use thunderbird
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: does thunderbird use annoying .pst files that get to 9+ GB and hard to back up?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not that i remember
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or thunderbird. I meant more a desktop email client, not specifically outlook. mostly because I have multiple gmail tabs open at any given time
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eudora won my heart 20 years ago :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I check my email with telnet
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Magna tells Fiendish EHLO
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: hi fiendish, did you see kojirotron was fr0z3n for a week???
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: do you clean your bathroom with a toothbrush too? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just put my ear on the ethernet and check it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish is a teapot.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I did see that 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: when did this turn into gossip??
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really? Because I just saw he was frozen, not fr0z3n.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Rikitiki Takihisis about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if i run 5 accounts into outlook all the time, any reason to think t-bird would be better?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: huh apparently thunderbird was dropped
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not dropped, just not being developed by Mozilla anymore.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Other developers are more than welcome to take the open source and continue with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't see that really happening... who pays for email clients these days?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: outlook users...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Guess most people today like the web interfaces of major providers, so there eis little motivation to continue development.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Who said anything about paying for clients, though?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, other opensource developers could pick it up, no need for revenue any more than any other OSS project
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: coders need to eat too
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: personally, I've stopped using clients and just use the gmail interface. Easiest when you read mail in multiple places.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't care for the web interface. I'd rather have a third party program to access my mail.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's what imap is for.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, I like the interface too...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Especially the quick searching.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thunderbird does quick searching. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: http://certifiedfreelance.com/why-you-should-switch-to-thunderbird-and-trash-outlook/
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flapjacked Mirrim Tech: Anyone here know anything about monitors/laptop monitors?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone know how to set up clanskill in basts spellup?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm sure bast does :P
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: whoah the mapper database is way easier to search with sqlite manager :P
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course it is
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i can finally track down that stupid level lock
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: i still need to know how to set up my clanskill in bast spellup
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: if anyone knows, or has a link to the helpfile
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast, his wiki should explain
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know a way in Mush to simulate mud-sent info from a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's your end goal?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Communicate with another plugin without rewriting the original to use a broadcaster
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Such that I can safely upgrade said original without having to rewrite it all over again
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does the original do?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is the Fiendish/Bast ones, so I assume they just trigger off ordinary input, or grab from GMCP helper
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: probably easier just to use newer plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That's the point - I made bucketloads of edits to the fiendish and bast packages, and if I upgrade, the changes will either be broken or removed. I want to be able to send mud input (preferably without using echo) so I can hijack into them, knowing the interface won't change when the packages do
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and fiendish and bast already use broadcasters extensively...
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Bast changed all his broadcasters recently, hence my frustration
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish's comm log even has specific command for you to put stuff directly into it
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: By recently I mean perhaps 12 months ago :D
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh. my. glob.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just learned that !! is bash var for the last command. forgot sudo? just do $sudo !!
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yep!
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can't believe i didn't know that before
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Also, ^1^2 replaces the first instance of 1 with 2 in the previous command.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn, it's like yelling at your computer to do that thing again, but with more vigor
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And ^1 repeats the command without the 1.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok i think im missing something
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i got the "lastest version of bast"
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: replaced the whole folder, restarted mush
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but my version number isnt changing so it keeps saying i need to update
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone got a xp/min plugin for mush? (apart from bast's reporting plugin)
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i thought moving the prefs file and the state files meant NOT haveing to re-do everything when upgrading mush.  (*sigh*)
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you also move the world file, as well as the database files in the logs directory?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: winkles search and destry GUI window is at the very upper edge of my scrren, and I cant see the title bar to move it.  and ideas on getting it accessiable again?  (I tried removing then reinstalling it, and I tried messing with the screen its in)
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: not sure if "resetaard" will fix that window as well
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: well i know resetaard will screw with my layout.  completely
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i have the same problem as cera as well. just ignored it mostly. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thank you mogk, worked like a charm.  :)
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: np sir
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sir?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he hasn't run into many sirens
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: is the any way to change the size of the gui window?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drag it from a corner like any other window
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: for whatever reason abe, i cant get that to work. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is your client maximized?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you trying to span monitors?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: nope, on a laptop
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i can get the minimize/mazimize bottuns to work though. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what window?  some cant be changed.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: for example Bast's Stats miniwindo isnt adjustable
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: the gui window. it is about the size big map window, and i would like it about the size of the mini map window.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: any mush window/miniwindow with a little lined triangle in the bottom right corner can be dragged to resize using that triangle
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: who has the best spellup plugin/script out there?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some people prefer bast, some prefer winkle
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: k, ill check them out, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's the simplest form of a ping code, in C?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: original C, C++, or C#?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Original.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: How can I strip channel tags if i dont want to capture them?  
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: tags channels off.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: but I want them on for some.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then create a trigger to omit them.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: would i need to #gag and then just #say the remainder?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: while stripping?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: cmud
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't use #SAY, you might end up with an infinite loop.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't even need to use #SAY at all.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I dont know how to strip it without.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you doing anything special with that line, other than wanting to remove it?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: #TRIGGER {~~{chan ch=%w~~}} {#GAG}
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, minus one ~
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: would that only remove the {chan ch=tech} part?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: thought that would remove the whole line
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, I'm sorry, use #SUB {}
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you using GMCP to send the channels to a different window?  If so, why do you want to keep the tagged line visible?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: i'm not using gmcp to send it.. though I likely should.  Just kdont know enough about it.. as I cant really see it.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you just need to create a trigger of type GMCP with a pattern of comm.channel.  In the code, you can reference the channel components like variables.  %gmcp.comm.channel.msg would be the visible line of text you see in the normal flow of spam.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: that seems too simple.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: haha, that might just work great.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's basically how easy gmcp is to work with in CMud.  The only difficult module to handle is the group module, since it doesn't expand well natively.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: what is GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i have no trouble using group in cmud
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: haldrik: generic mud communication protocol
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ooo i see. there was even a helpfile on it
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the latest implementation of an out-of-band communication protocol to exchange useful data between server and client.  It replaces ATCP, which was largely something invented and used by Iron Realms Entertainment for their games (it was later shared with anyone else who wanted to implement it), which itself replaced the telnet suboptions system.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: lol.. so i couldnt figure out how to use the #sub to strip the {$%$#%} part.  So I just #gag and then #show %gmcp.comm.channel.msg
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: anywhere in gmcp it says the full area name? ie You are in area : Dominion Clan Area
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: vs just domnion
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: just short name
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, just the keyword
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's easy to make a table to convert them though
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there a better way to arrange these mush windows? I'm having trouble getting them to line up all pretty.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: i have mine setup pretty nicly
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you can drag them around
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: we need a gallery of layouts.  :p
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah i been draggin them around but some of the edges don't line up very well
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it annoys me
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so drag better
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and since you can only size from the corner...
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because lining up corners is difficult?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: is there a sepllup script for cmud readily available?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if there weren't nobody would be using cmud
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have one, but it takes a couple extra steps.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't have one, always just used the ingame feature.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I do track affects/resists, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yall ever seen a virus that prompts for router username and password?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there a shortcut for mushclient to open/close trigger window?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: shift+ctrl+8
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nice, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: doesn't work :( ug
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yea must be something in windows, i see the shortcut in the menu
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Make sure you're not using the numpad.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: im not
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And in Windows, it works.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: try Alt+Enter
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that worked :)
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: do i have some weird setting that would make the other one not?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: There a way to pass regex matches to variables in mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: use %1, %2, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ahh was using $1
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's zmud, iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Great
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah i've done a lot of Dragonrealms scripting with genie
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So, if I'm using a trigger and sending to "world" can i have other commands send to other windows?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: for example, "send trigger to world" "send command to log"
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Hmmm... How to capture the entire campaign to a window :)
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: what do you mean capture
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I'd just like the campaign info to echo over to a window.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: and can always copy and paste to a notepad, i just use 'cp ch' which is campaign check
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: winkles scripts do that
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Where do i find Winkles scripts?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: finger winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: awesome, thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: acutally the new psu can run like a 300w gpu
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's metric
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone on office 2013 yet?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know of a good resource for flashing a Sprint GS3 to Verizon? My google-fu is hella fail today.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mucio Tech: how can I set the aardmush so that I only see channels in the communication log and not the play screen?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Is there a simple way to set something up or download a package that will let me open doors when I walk into them?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right-clic
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right-click on communication window and choose echo channels to main window
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can define custom exits to go through doors
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mucio Tech: after i choose echo channels?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Any help files or something to look that up?  Used zmud/cmud my whole life and using MUSHclient for first time.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for custom exist with doors: mapper cexit open w;w
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use double semicolon between open w and w
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Ok thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though you have to add manually every such exit
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: at least till you get pass door
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there may be some plugins for that, though I don't know of any, but you could check Fiendish and Bast sites - just finger them for url
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Awesome thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i set a trigger, when I come across a door I cant pass through, it tried to open all directions, I've an alias too for manual.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: could anyone help me with a multiline trigger?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends on what client.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: i just figured it out. thanks though
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Does the mushclient save hp/mana to any global variables?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: anyone uses mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Anyone able to help me with a quick question about aliasing GMCP commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Interesting, the new Blackberry OS will be able to run several Android OS Apps.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: MushClient
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Basically just being able to get around the multiple commands/semi-colon issue, if I want to alias cexit commands.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: use ;; instead of ;
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: double the ;s
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in the future, you may want to explain your issue as clearly as possible.  "GMCP commands" are actually commands you can send to aard to have to return gmcp tags it would normally send you at the appropriate times.  Something much different than the GMCP mapper commands
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Okay, one more quick question, since its sending to the plugin (in this case the GMCP mapper, and not to the MUD) how do I address that?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's the "it" in this case?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Just trying to make simple aliases, like mapper cexit open north north
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Obviously with semi-colons
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think send to execute or send to script.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Question - I just tried to install a campaign tracker miniwindow - saved xml file, added plugin.  Buit do not seee the window.  Am I missing a step?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go on a campaign
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: I've got one active right now.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Not seeing any window.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: type cp c
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Yea - did that.  Shows it in main window but no miniwindow popped up when I added the plugin.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you do it before or after you added the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: I've done it both.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Plugin is installed - shows it's enabled.  Just no new window.  Unless it's behind one of my others maybe?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: It's my first time trying to add one.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Does anyone use Bast's mini-window tabber?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: is there an easy way to make mapper handle 'rt area' commands instead of the mud?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aliases or plugins exist to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: any specific recommendations for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For example, you can find the id # of the entrance room, and alias 'rt area' to 'mapper goto #' for the appropriate area/room combo
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: To find the number of a room, hover over it on the mapper window, or type 'mapper thisroom'
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: yeah but i was hoping there was a systematic way to do it besides setting up a macro for every area
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are many ways
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kev Tech: question.  This has nothing to do with the game.  But is there any one on here that has worked with Powershell
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes it's ugly
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kev Tech: I have to do it for school
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: why not just ask your question?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Tell your teacher that python is much better :D
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is agreeing with that Ranrr person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: python is less likely to be on windows servers, and cannot be used to control all microsoft technologies, however
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: .bat ftw :-S
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, because that works, Ranrr, so well.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I wouldn't know, don't use windows. But I thought it was available for windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I stated nothing about whether it can be used on windows
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes powershell is included with windows
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are 2 definitions of availability in this case...it's "available" for windows in that it can be installed...it won't be "available" on 98% of thewindows machines most people will touch
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just have to add it via control panel
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and powershell is highly integrated with many microsoft technologies, and is the only supported way to inteact with them
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: same with IIS
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (by available for windows, he meant python, not PS)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: got confused :P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess I'm just used to getting any language I need with a simple apt-get command. Didn't realize it was so hard for windows to get a new language.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so in order to manage an Exchange 2010 server, you'll be using powershell...even if you prefer python
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has nothing to do with "hard to get a new language"
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I just put 3.3 on my 7 box in around 2 minutes, site->dl->UAC signoff->fin
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, inflexible OS then.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has to do with "won't already be there, and you don't necessarily have the authority to put it there, and STILL doesn't change the fact that you absolutely MUST use powershell to do stuff"
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hardly
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yay platform holy war
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: people that say win 7 is hard haven't used it much
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the OS doesn't care what language you use
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but many proprietary technologies won't have any python support, but do have low-level powershell hooks
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm trying to learn iOS objective C right now.. don't know where to start
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: And then people who replace him will have to know python, what if he converts the whole system to python then leaveS?:P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: he gets a raise?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Doesn't everyone know python?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: haha....
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Even I do, nowadays. I thought I was the last human to learn it.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Basically anyone that knows english can learn python in a week :P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people in IT don't know python (or any languages, really)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: computer management is about coding unless you wanna do something abnormal
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah...when I was doing database management the IT people were basically there to install applications on windows and give network drive access
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, if you don't know any language, then the whole discussion about which language to use is moot.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: python wouldn't happen in a profesional windows shop, because management would rather be watersking with the kids than learning python or whatever is approved by geeks this week
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: management doesn't code
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and they shouldn't have to
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the size/structure of the organization
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I disagree... The best managers i've met also have a lot of the knowhow to get their hands dirty.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah in the old dirty days of pcs, sure
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it management do want to going whats going on, and also ensure all his "assets" are replacable
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i still scripted stuff as the director of a million dollar IT department
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nowadays with the internet and a search engine you can get a pc to do anything
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: still wont make sammich
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: If you have the right computer, it will.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cadriel P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cadriel smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3d print me a sammich
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Robotic applications aren't a thing of the past anymore. You could develop a system for under ten grand just to make sandwiches if you have the knowledge to do it yourself.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 3d print a sammich!
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I want a 3d printer, but I can't even afford a new PC at the moment =/
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: or you could meet someone, have them make it, then have kids and have them make them
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Gonna cost more than 10 grand tho
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Right? The robot is still cheaper, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can make a 3d printer
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: last long tho
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the robot will be broken in what 5 years 
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: idk, I still think the maintainence costs are still lower.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so will the woman
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: And in five years, statistically there's a good chance will hate you and not make you a damn thing lol
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: your wife will hate you*
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: then you aint tightening her screws right  ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not make a damn thing in 5 years? sounds like a wife :P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I meant after five years, but yeah, not far off
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I love how every channel is getting totally derailed tonight
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cept for good ol barter people watch that channel like a hawk
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Holy hell. Kingston unveiled a 1TB flash drive... their 512GB flash drive is $1,750... I'm scared to know how much they'll charge for the 1TB...
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What would be the purpose of a 512/1tb flash drive? Things are unreliable as the proverbial, simply due to the nature of the media they use to record on to.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: lots and lots of porn
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're great as imaging drives...slow as heck to write to, but read from rules
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I have about 10 different flash drives. never have had an issue with any
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Better to have many 8gb sticks, that way if some fail you still have some porn to fall back on
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I only use cloud porn nowadays
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not to confuse with clown dito
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Cloud porn!? That's just sick.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that one looks like a...nevermind
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think they call it intangible-core porn
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I deal with photo kiosks for a good part of my working week - the amount of failed USB drives I have to explain a week is ludicrous. Granted, they are usually the ones stored in a coin purse or from the 90s, but still.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and they're usually giveaway-quality ones...
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, the FAT file system is probably responsible for a couple of those failures.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The combo of FAT and people janking them out while they are being written.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the fat fs ?  not clueless users pulling out drive with unflushed buffers ?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Usually NTFS, and while the odds are high it's a dodgy brand, kingston, Lexar, Sandisk, they all fail.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mind you, pulling out before they're done writing will corrupt the data,but doesn't harm the drive
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Users can't tell the difference.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for home, I like the army of 8GBs...for imaging computers, 64GB was a bit too cramped
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, plenty of 'needs a format', that's not too bad unless it's "But my dead/wedding/birth" bullshit. Plenty of 'cannot mount' as well, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've had one flash drive fail on me ever,so far..and that's one that a vendor left in a kiosk computer when it shipped
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cannot mount isn't usually a failed drive either
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Cannot mount is the first error that usually leads to the recovery utilities I have informing me the whole thing has crapped out
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've never had a flash drive fail, even the one I keep in my wallet or the one on my keychain.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I do leave them in my back pocket, put them in the laundry, etc...mangle the USB connector's metal shield and have to bend it back to be square to fit in the ports
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: heh, i have been using one with no case, just bare circuit board, even it still works
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Some people get lucky though. I personally haven't had any drives fail, USB or not. Probably 15 drives I've used heavily, only ever upgraded, never had a failure of any kind. *touches wood
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: only one that failed on me i was running chkdsk on, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I once had 2 drives fail at the same time in a raid set though. Fortunately, I was paranoid enough to have it be raid6.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aliens, that sounds like a great way for this to happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr7bPmGTQUk
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 thumb drives in a raid 6?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: hmm RAID of USB flash drive would be funny
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: excruciating write speeds
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: lol vak, electrolytic cap wired wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tag! tech is it!
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Are there any dual head laptops? I need more screen space...
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Any brands  of ssd known to be really good and really bad?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: Having a major brain fart here... i just ordered a bunch of new computer parts to build my own computer... but how can i tell if it will be 32 or 64 bit compatible?  Is it based on the ram or the hardware specifically?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mucio Tech: wouldn't that depend on the drivers for the parts? can probably google each of them and see if they have 64/32 bit drivers for a quick guess (from less than basic knowledge of computres)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YOU GOT A! Wittle Tech: can someone help me connect to xbox live:P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: need to pay for that :p
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: wonder if xbconnect is still around :p
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: is ivy bridge or sandy bridge the newest processor?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ivy bridge
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Miss Ehlena Tech: Is there anyone who can fix an issue for me? I used to have the window where I type commands bigger but my child messed with my laptop and broke that. Now when I drag it to try and make it bigger again it just pops smaller. I'm using aard mush and not being able to see what I'm typing is mildly infuriating. Does anyone know how to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ehlena What happens if you hover your cursor over the top part of that "window" ?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Miss Ehlena Tech: I don't know how but he fixed it playing with it
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If we're talking about the same thing, I can click-hold and drag it to be bigger or smaller.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know how to take a screen shot on samsung galaxy s3?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's probably an app for that
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dat Eutychus snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, and I was being so serious too.  Even Blackberries have such apps.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I'd imagine since it was trying to oneup apple iphones that its a built in ability
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: I have the gs3 too but haven't figured out if it was possible w/o an app.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is an option to set up a palm swipe to take a screenshot in Settings->Motion
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: hmm the option is already selected, but when I do it it doesn't take picture? am I actually suposed to touch the side of my palm to the screene?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try the edge of you hand when your hand is vertical instead of horizontal
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there an easy way to cap those damage verbs in mush
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean 'help damage' ?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they're listed there, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: capture?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you mean capture or limit?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Your's heavenly balance does UNTHINKABLE things to some zigzagging wind! [1965]
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want to use one trigger for all dmg verbs
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and separate the mob name from the damtype
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what for ?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use damage 3 then
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1 trigger only
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: set dam 2 and just capture pimpslaps?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, yeah, 2
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's no option for spells
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Is it possible MUSH side, without actually writing a script. Just using the built in trigger creation, to trigger greater than a specific number. Such as from a compare screen, wanting to trigger off any score over 100?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope, not possible.  The wildcarding for the built-in script system is *, which matches everything.  It would always trigger on anything in that spot.  Perhaps you could then evaluate it and only do "stuff" when it was greater than 100, but dunno how.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Had a feeling thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wait, triggers have a regex option, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: they do
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: then I take it back.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not sure if you can do the eval right there in the pattern, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: man, I'm tripping all over my thoughts today...
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Got a second question to. If you could get it to trigger, can you pull a random ID #, from the same line you triggered off of?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Need to write a script, or just MUSH side commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: send to varaible
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: variable*
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: or just use * and %1 if you can match it
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: to only trigger off scores greater than 100, make a pattern that matches only numbers with a minimum length of 3 (\d{3,} it how I think it would go).
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Maybe I can hire a scripter to write what I need..  Sort of like what you guys were talking about last night. Would like to be able to compare 100 skins, and trigger keep any over a certain score.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all of this is scripting, though.  Scripting doesn't mean just the lua/plugin stuff.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's a good way to label thumb drives?  I was looking at some and they range in size from about the size of my thumb all the way down to something just barely bigger than the slot it plugs into.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: old school ticky tape, tried and true ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: like masking tape?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: no, those little machines that punch letters in a plastic tape
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ah, labelmaker tape?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: ticky tape is probably not the correct term
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dynolabel
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: or you can buy the ones with metallic skins and have them engraved
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kelvar stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: you all might appreciate this:
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: http://www.datamancer.net/steampunklaptop/steampunklaptop.htm
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Anybody d/l PhotoShop 9 or Acrobat 8 from Adobe?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: whenever i open a door, why does the prompt pop up twice in a row?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thats jesus closing a window
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you're asking the MUD to send you the ASCII map again, so that it can update with your new line-of-sight
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: that's pro knowledge. thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: any VI players on that use vipmud?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerine Tech: I'm using the flash client provided on the website
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerine Tech: is there a way to pop out the map?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to a separate window? no
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: No there is no way. You must use a more extensible client like Mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Got a question/favor to ask any online service professsionals
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ask it, asking to ask is silly
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Anyone online right now have access to the Dell DCSE site?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I need to get a copy of the expanded service manual for my gf's gaming laptop, the user service manual is terrible
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: But of course its restricted to Dell Authorized Service Agentss
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does that guy's online service manual's site still exist?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: All of them i've found online so far are copies of the user service manuals
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I've never had trouble using the anyone-can-download service manuals to totally rip apart dell laptops
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I don't forsee trouble, just trying to be prepared, the thing is a behemoth
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So long as you have the mobo specs, everything else shouldn't be an issue, I would guess
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno that there even is a tech-only version, as the regular one walks through everything
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I know there definitely is, especially for the M1730, the real difference between the two being expanded and more detailed disassembly photos
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I can get access to it from a friend, but he's going to be laid up for like a week, and I was hoping to get cracking tonight.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I'll keep looking then, thanks anyway guys.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: (Not sarcasm)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any pythoners among us? Looking for a learning python resource which doesn't assume it's my first programming language, anyone have a good one?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravis Tech: for the aardwolf mushclient, is there a way to keep it from displaying all the updates/changes between versions whenever I log on? all that info is keeping my screenreader from reading info. I need lol
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can disable the update check plugin, but then you won't know about updates
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I will also point out that you opted in to receive update notices
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: but.. can the human icentipad read?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravis Tech: lol well I didn't know how it would affect screenreader. guess I'll just work around it as best I can.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can select the ignore option, then the only time you see it is when there's new updates
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't need to work around it. just uninstall the update checker plugin and periodically check manually
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which isn't all that often
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also what vakieh said
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravis Tech: cool thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: is there any way to get the aardmapper to use my darklight portal over the vidblain kludge?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can level lock the exits into the hole
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: is there a way to get to a room using its id (in command line)?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you're using the mapper yes
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mapper goto <id>
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: awesome. thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: is there a way to make the mapper prioritize a portal over vidblain?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cam.. what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mapper will find shortest path it knows about
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: when I run to Imperial Nation or Darklight, the mapper goes to vidblain first, then uses my portal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: I wonder how to make it just use the portal without doing vidblain first
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmmm.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sounds like you just did something wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And your portals are set up correctly in the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: every one is done the same way
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: I have the vidblain fix on
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "the vidblain fix on" is not a phrase that is meaningful without explanation
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It seems like the portals were maybe added as cexits or something instead of held portals
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: there is an option to make it (if you dont have a portal), properly parse vidblain speedruns
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no there isn't
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: heh maybe it's S&D then
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: actually it probably is
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: I thought that one was mapper side
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah. Can't help you there.. but thats not an option in them apper i know of
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: anyway S&D is evil so I guess it doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: is there any commands to reset aardwolf back to standard install?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Just delete the folder and unzip a new copy.  You might want to save your mapper db first, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yea i'd like to save my aliases and such too
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Ah, for that you can just save your world file as well (the one with a .mcl extension)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Can he just replace his plugins folder with a clean one from a new install?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh thats a good idea
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: what are the commands to see my current cexits?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: mapper cexits + here for area
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: great, im kidding an error now
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and this was from a backup i made earlier
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Alias function "custom_exit_list" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ok... wow that was bizarre
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: my DB file wasn't working on a new install
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: managed to get my other copy on dropbox to work
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: anyone familiar with Bast's pluglins?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hiya, i think i have a bad hard drive... 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Run disk check?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have 2 HDs on my cdesktop, when i connect one of them it fails to boot into windows
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i pulled out the sata connection and it boots fine
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fails to detect, or windows fails to load?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: fails to load
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i get the windows splash screen for a while
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then it moves to a blackscreen and hangs
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Tried seeing what BIOS thinks of it?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, not yet
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Possible the boot order is affected, and you have a dodgy copy of windows on the 2nd HDD from some other machine or something? I did that once, transferring old stuff to a new computer
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: assuming bios detects it, any idea what might the problem be?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This internal SATA?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i haven't used my pc for 4 months, but it booted fine yesterday
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea internal sata hd
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try booting windows into safe mode, which version you running?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: couldn't boot safe mode
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: xp 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Safe mode failed? Wow, that's a first...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea... i thought it might have been a buggy program or something, but safe mode just hangs during boot up too
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try putting another OS onto a flash drive, so you know there's no corruption in the OS, and boot from it to check out the drive
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can boot up fine when the hard disk is not connected
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i would assume OS is ok
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh hmm
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok i think i can try that
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try it anyways - just so you can get access to the drive while it's connected, see exactly what files are on there, and run disk check software. I use HD Sentinel, but most are ok
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i know only one critical file is there
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my mush install folder :p
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is hd sentinel a flash bootable os? or any recommendations?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, HD Sentinel is a Windows based disk checking program, but if you're booting from flash easier to use Ubuntu or something - others will have a better idea than me of what's good to use with that
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i remember vaugely you could use bartPe to create bootable disks
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: then again ive used spinrite for a long time
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah bartpe if you have an optical drive
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it will let you chkdsk
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Half-Baked Eggplant Tech: trying to swap over to the mushclient and for some reason the main window isnt working right, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Half-Baked Eggplant Tech: its not showing anything but the commands i type
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: how do i create an alias to send a command to a plugin in mushclient? trying to shorten mapper where <uid> to mw <uid>. simple i know, but, newbie at this whole alias stuff. tried to figure out from mush wiki, but, too foreign for me to really understand yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: sendTo execute ?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the alias send to drop-down, select execute
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: ah...makes sense. will try out and ty.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to world sends it to aard, so the plugins don't see it...send to execute pretends that you typed it into the command line, so other aliases are called as well
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and send to script allows you to put lua functions, etc. into it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: It worked, and ty. Understood everything up to lua functions. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, so never choose that one ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: Got a feeling I'll be trying to figure that part out too at some point though. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: If I am building a computer from scratch, do i need to put Thermal Gel on the cpu before attaching it to the motherboard?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: no, you do it before attaching the heat sink
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: sorry that is what i meant
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: but you need to apply it the first time right?  FOr some reason i thought it only applied to subsequent additions
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: think about it in context
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: ok better question then.  Is it absolutely 100% needed to have the gel on there?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: or is it more of a precautionary thing
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: what is the function of the gel ?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: fuse the two together?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: to better enable heat transfer from the cpu to the heatsink
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: So its not required, but its a damn good idea if you want optimal heat transfer?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: I just started getting (Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.) error everytime i get something from/to inventory. Reloaded mneq and bimon plugins (BAST) and still getting error. Any other ideas? Been running Bast's plugins for a while now and no real problems up to now.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how much time and productivity do you suppose is lost to doing software updates?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why lost?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: from sitting around to wait for windows, or adobe, or whatever to upgrade itself.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean, how much time is lost due to system actions (which in your case include upgrades)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though you cannot simply tell, that if update / upgrade takes 10 hours per month, then you've lost it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this is similar to saying, that you waste 1 hour daily for taking backups
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: which are pretty useless, unless you need to use them
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: a lot of updates are to protect us from pthers who want into our pcs not to make them run smoother.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I could reformulate question, how much time is lost due to using MS Win 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as usually Linux systems needs less maintenance
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Anyone know of a good mob kill tracker? One that averages gold etc?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I tried using bastmush's but i couldnt get the tabs to show up on his stat window.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Anyone know if i need to do anything to get Winkles sound pack to work?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: for quest alerts etc
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ah there we go, needed to install the plugin :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: That usually helps. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: It didn't mention it in the install notes :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: i usaully follow them to the T after my last mess up
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there a way to only turn the global channel on? (turn all others off)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Which global channel?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: global quest, sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can turn any channel on/off by typing it's name.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: guess i can make an alias :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm blanking... how do you check if a number is an integer in lua?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: a%1==0
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: just googled that :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: i believe % is the functoin that works 0 or 1 on even or something
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: forgot what its called exactly
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: % is modulus
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ah yeah modulus :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my stat monitor isnt firing.  (bast)  how do i turn it on?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: im not getting the tell to channel of choise after leveling or questing
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: geeks. search google gravity. 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: how do you pass a standard variable through a lua script?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in mush, you get it with GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Send ("pell")  Doesn't access the variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Send ("@spell") 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Send(GetVariable("spell"))
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: Send(GetVariable("spell"))
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haldrik ) thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Send("@spell") will send the literal string "@spell" to the MUD, if i'm not mistaken.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Crash mess with the mapper at all. Alot of my mapper goto's arent working. Anyone else experience problems today?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yea thats what it does, hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: mines been fine Doink
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: i was here for crash
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So was I, my map's fine.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Thanks, mine seems fubarred.. prolly havent backed up in a while to ><
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: you turned off the autobackup?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Its on.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: something must have changed and auto saved
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Oh, right... you'd back up the fubar stuff too
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: When I do a mapper goto it says, Walking to: On the Edge of a Dark Forest, down, No point doing this while you are speedwalking., run wse3s
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: never seen that, "No point doing this while you are speedwalking" message before.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: reload the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: reload it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: which plugin exactly :), thanks to btw.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Aardwolf_GMCP_mapper or whatever
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: aardwolf_gmcp_mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Cool, ill give it a try, thanks guys.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: When you say reload, does that mean to reinstall it? Tried disable, enable, didnt work.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You can reinstall, you'll be fine
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: have you tried reboot mushclient Doink?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: All the settings are stored in the .db file, not the plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: reinstall just disables and enables, i believe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It also clears state, i though?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Have tried rebooting. Reinstall didnt do the trick either sadly.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: might be a mushclient then thing
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Try uninstalling it, then installing a fresh copy from fiendish's site?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Worth a shot, ill try. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's always possible it got corrupted somehow
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: just save your DB
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: You know what happened... I figued it out.  Amazons clan maze... same name as the 1st room in Amazon area.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: So its "bugged" amazon, which was my speedwalk to werewood.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Weird :) glad u figured it out
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Or... I added an alias, amazon, to mappergoto the maze entrance
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just go to amazon's open hall and mapper purgezone
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Thanks Myrk. Ill try that.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Anyone have a link to lua commands like "getvariable" etc?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I found a list awhile ago but cant seem to find it again
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Better yet, my own stupidity broke it. My amazon portal alias was amazon, then I made a amazon alias to mapper goto maze entrance... ffs. Thanks all for the help.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmmm.. how to pass %1 through to an alias in lua?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You mean * ?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This in GUI w/send to script, or plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I was thinking Getalias("spell")
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: but clearly that doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: GetAliasWildcard
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: derp, 3 lines down, thanks much :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: anyone help me with a nagging mapper problem?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ive been starting to set up my portals and really using mapper in last few days.. been adding my portals as i get to level that i can use them...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: i did play with it several months ago adding some but then removed and started over
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: anyway when i mapper goto maelstrom ( i have this room id set up) it trys to get my illorian portal (which i cant use) and stops me a few rooms later
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: set up your levels on the portals...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: when you do 'mapper portal foobar' it asks you to set a level, always set it to the portal level as it'll take tiers into account.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: im sure i have my portals set up correctly, i use the portal id# to get out of bag and replace
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: that means you put in the level for illorian portal wrong.  Delete it out and put it back in with right level
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: hmm odd, my illoria portal works at all levels
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: no it is correct im sure, here is the thing....
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Tiers, Mokg, tiers
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Your alias may be fine, but if it's trying to use it too early, you didn't set the level of the portal correctly. end of story.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: type mapper portals. what level does it say next to your illoria portal?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: do mapper portals... last column for illoria portal... what is number
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: it is using a syntax that i had set up to an macro i had but since deleted, it get illorian bag
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You likely hit enter leaving it at level 0, since you can't use it at level 1, that is wrong. You want it set to the portal level, so the mapper knows what level it can start using that portal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: please just look and tell us instead of saying we're wrong without looking
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: do mapper portals... last column for illoria portal... what is number
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger guesses it's 0.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: one last thing, i see that when i use mapper walkto its not supposed to used portals, when i do this it does same thing, trys to use the illor portal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Did you set it up as a cexit then instead of a portal?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then you made a cexit somewhere to use the portal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You may have set the portal alias as a cexit?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: its all falling together!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: mapper portals says illoria portal is lvl 60
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: yep good.  Now given your other problem as many have suggested you probably have a cexit problem somehwere
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: How about your cexits, which is what we just said?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ahh cexit is good place for me to look , didnt think bout that
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You know how to edit sqlite? Easy to search for a particular UID and delete the line in that, I think you need the starting room for a cexit to delete it in-mud
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Why not, 3 people said it was your cexit right after you explained your 'walkto' issue. If you can't be bothered to read the help you're given, why should we bother to give it?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: sorry for delay, im slow typer and havin to scroll up to read responses.. lemme check cexits
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Go to illoria, type 'mapper cexits here'
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: See what you see
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I suggest going to recall and doing 'mapper delete cexits'
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: cheez, im responding to your answers from scrolling up
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Since I'm assuming your runto is starting at recall
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Vakieh, it won't be in that room
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's the end point of the cexit, not the start
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ya i think the cexit is at recal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you need to get to the room where the cexit is, and do mapper delete cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: but only in the specific room
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "mapper cexits" and go through your cexits, it has both source and destination rooms
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Found 2280 custom exits. :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Make sure, though, to use 'mapper portal' for portals in the future, and not 'mapper cexit'. Very different functionality, and if you use the 'mapper portal', it'll let you identify level locks for them
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i am guessing he doesn't have 2000 cexits
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I only have 774 cexits :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hence why I do most of my editing in raw sqlite directly now
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: I have 1639 :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Which SQL client you use? Or do you use the terminal?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: 750 here, but I have passdoor wish, so don't need all those open cexits
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sqlite studio, or the ff editor
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use the plugin for firefox
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I made mine with portability in mind, if i want to give it to a friend without passdoor, they'd be hosed.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So I include opens anyways.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I recently switched to Chrome, so the FF editor isn't so convenient anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You... pass on maps? Damn, man, why not let them play the game?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can run it without firefox, check their website
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: ff pluging that runs without ff ... nifty
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No often, but if I ever do I don't want to make them spend weeks finding/fixing them all :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: not* often
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Meh, liking the power of Studio, and it loads orders of magnitude faster. Though that might not happen without the FF backend, who knows
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nah, the ff plugin is pretty bloated as a standalone too
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ok searching through my cexits, im gonna assume that its going to illoria so i need to mapper delete cexits in alloria ent?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I just use the terminal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: As I said, you have to have where the cexit starts, not ends. So, if the cexit is at recall, that's where you delete it from
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: just make it use the cexit and see where it tries to use the portal from
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I can guarantee it's in his most common room; chall, manor, recall, aard amulet -- since it does this consistently.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So it's where he's usually at when he tries that particular goto
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try 'mapper goto 10447', and see what room it enters the portal in
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, do what Vak said if it turns out to not be recall.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ya deleted cexit ant recal and seemed to work thank you all very much for help!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: np :-) And don't fuss on the typing, aard is probably the best thing you can have to teach faster typing skills
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: There's truth in that.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I used to type slowly... and after years of aardwolf, that's no longer even the most remote of concerns
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ya have gotten much faster then when i started a few months back, thank again guys much apprieciated. just wish i woulda started this mapper business when i first started, ive been speedwalking everywhere for 7 remorts hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I did it for 7 tiers :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: how new is the mapper for muchclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Official release in what, 2010? But the AMCP or w/e it was was far older
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not much different than r1557
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ATCP, it seems
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: one more lil question not really tech but.. is it going to be normal for me generally speaking to have hundreds of aliases for my mapper gotos? like im making 1-5 alias per area, so seems like ill end up with quite a bit
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Make one alias that can take an argument
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What aliases are you making? I have 1 per portal, and some for aq stuff (such as Knossos)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: winklewinkle has a script that lets you use xrt instead of runto ... so xrt hatch goes to hatchling from any room
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: my alias is wearportal *, so I just do mapper portal wearportal 'aard amulet'
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And there are plugins available which allow runto area
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: xrt is like sticking a jet engine on runto
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: how can i copy my mapper files for winkle winkle so i can use them on another computer???
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: at least once you explore enough
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: im making an alias for each room so i dont have to remember room id, like mgmaelent for maelstrom entrance
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Copy the whole mushclient folder to a flash drive. MC is portable.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mapper area find
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You need never deal in room ID #s, just the name
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, get winkle. xrt fortress will do mapper find, mapper goto all in one step
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I've never typed out a room ID, there's no need.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: winkle xrt means every area in the mud is probably not much more than 10-15 squares for me (often less)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods at most you use i'd for handy aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: usually around 5-6 if you got good portals :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: like heal room and q request etc
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I modified my mapper plugin to show me the distance for each area - trust me redrain, unless you have a ridiculous amount of triv/c portals, you are looking at 20ish + for quite a few areas
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: love my tp portals
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: | The Council of the Wyrm        |    67 |
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: He has a cexit for that one :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That one is just bugging me now, though
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: clan exit, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ok thanks guys im out, back to cping!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, it's on my list - but it doesn't serve any other areas, and I get so few quest targets there...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I have a cp portal to the secretary in descent, but that's useless on gqs.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: wyrm portal - 3 rooms
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I wish you could pay a fee to goldify cps
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmmm why is kick arget not working?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: kick @target
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Expand variable checked?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: alias is "kick" send to world
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ambiguity, HO!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oooo :) thanks cheez
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lol, i grew up with it, good luck knowing more than me :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Honestly I never use the @varname syntax. I find it better to send everything to script and use GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: what is context for mapper cexit_wait ? where do i put the number?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mapper cexit_wait number
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: then mapper cexit whatever
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's all in mapper help, by the way
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ya im reading the help but still cant seem to get it to work, says invalid number
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what number did you enter?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: 6
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: is it a toggle?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: i got it i think ty
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who decided the word 'Elif' needed to be invented? Was elseif such a strain to type?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: same guys who gave us iff.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: iff = if and only if.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmmm mc kill hell;wait(10);kill hell;wait(10);open down;down
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: how come that doesn't work as an alias?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: alias is mapper cexit %1
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haldrik's bot program is activated by The River Styx and he rolls over on demand.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm pretty sure that's borderline botting
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: getting a key?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: not even borderline...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: having a cexit that kills mobs is illegal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh whoops :(
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: having an alias that does multiple kills is botting, nevermind the cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can stack commands, but there's a limit on how far you can go.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat is agreeing with that The River Styx person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that was an alias to create a cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Putting attack or kill in a cexit is crossing the line, wouldnt sweat it, just change it and now you know :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah, my bad
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it never worked anyhow, hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: any way to clear a cmapper wait queue?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: can delete all cexits in 1 room
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cmud mapper or mush mapper?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: mush mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}New Shag Carpet Tech: anyone know of any wifi companies that can be used as soon as purchased?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Where?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}New Shag Carpet Tech: pennsylvania usa
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: AT&T, Sprint, and USCellular come to mind.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wifi?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New Shag Carpet nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all wifi can be used immediately, other than charging if it's a cordless device...but wifi doesn't get you Internet access without being hooked up to non-wifi
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}New Shag Carpet Tech: one more question... is it possible to use my phone internet for my laptop?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends on your carrier.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}New Shag Carpet Tech: tmobile
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Most in the US charge extra for that feature though
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on both carrier and phone, as well as service plan...some charge extra
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rechy Arxe Tech: yeah, many carriers can and do do that. charges though
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if your phone has wifi, then you can usually do wireless tethering...if not, then you'd need to have a cable that connects to both phone and laptop
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tmobile has plans that do/don't include it. You can download third party apps to remove the requirement of the extra plan - but its likely a ToS violation, and may get you charged additionally on your bill. Your mileage may vary, I am not a lawyer, batteries not included.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: you can do it free even if your carrier tries to charge for it.  its not like they can tell and verizon lost a class action suit about it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for wireless tethering, your phone basically becomes an access point/hotspot
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The verizon issue had to do with agreements they made when they licensed their last band of spectrum. Their unlimited plans you still have to pay tethering on.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And yes, they can tell.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: actually, any lte phone you will not have to pay tethering for verizon
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bast: source?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: I use pdanet app for verizon. took about 2 minutes to set up, they can supposedly "mask" your tether if you like as well. and its free
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57485518-94/what-verizons-fcc-tethering-settlement-means-to-you-faq/ 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, verizon's settlement was with the fcc, not with subscribers, and it was regarding use of "C block of 700 MHz spectrum"
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: google needs to bring about their fiber faster
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bast, thats what I was talking about "What if I have an old Verizon unlimited data plan? Can I download an app and avoid the $20 tethering fee too? Unfortunately, the answer to this question is no. Verizon says that customers under the unlimited plan are required by the company's terms of service to pay an additional fee to tether their device."
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the thing is, there is no such thing as the "unlimited plan" on LTE devices anyway, they did away with it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And people who still ahve it are grandfathered in, bast
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: verizon is slowly but not so slowly axing the grandfathered plans 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: old plans still charge for tethering, only the new tiered plans are exempt
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No they aren't, Rondel
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: very rare, if you upgraded your phone in the last 2 years, you aren't on the unlimited plan
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: I've been using that pdanet app to tether for years, never been charged or had anyone ask anything
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: i have unlimited data plan on lte and i use foxfi to tether via wifi and i dont get charged
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats not true either, Bast
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daloran: they're trying...if you do any of their phone upgrades, they'll upgrade plans
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dreck.. you might be getting away with it - but if you're on VZW, with an unlimited plan, tethering without the add on - you are violating your agreement with them.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its only if you sign a new contract, and get a new subsidized phone, Abe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: wouldn't of told my brother he had to change his plan on a upgrade if they werent? especially after they stopped offering it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: getting a new subsidized phone IS signing a new contract...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: true story but its working fine so far and they havent taken it off their own verizon app store so they are round about endorsing it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And your point abe? I said only if you did those things, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: who would sign a contract without some benefit, such as a subsidized handset or a reduced rate?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's why I said "if you do any of their phone upgrades"
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You can buy a new phone and upgrade out of pocket, abe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: New phone doesn't mean no contract, if you don't have them subsidize it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: doesn't mean new contract, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a phone upgrade
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: If you didn't get a new contract and your 2 year contract is up, you are on month to month under the terms of your old contract, if you do anything, like add a line, get a new phone, etc.., new 2 year contract and you don't have unlimited anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: How is replacing an older phone with a newer better phone not an upgrade =p
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not through them
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I didn't say through them.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: buying a phone is not getting a phone upgrade
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's merely buying a phone
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is upgrading your phone.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's buying another one
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is replacing your phone with a better one. Which is an upgrade.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: if you pay full retail its not an upgrade me the company
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But it is still an upgrade =p
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Dreckis.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can pretend that it fits the contextual definition all you want, doesn't change industry terms
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: how long until your last 2 year contract is up Daloran?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh cool, Thunderbird got a recent update.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd have to check, but roughly 18 months. 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hopefully there's a network whizz on atm - I have an ADSL 2 connection which has been dropping overnight. My router support is blaming my ISP, my ISP is blaming my router (WAG320n if it makes much difference). I get SNR of 6 on both up and downstream, means it's the ISP, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And abe, I don't need to pretend anything. I can buy a new phone out of pocket, not sign a new contract, and they would still call it an upgrade.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no they wouldn't, because they don't care at that point, they would call it a new phone
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and I have a hard time believing you got unlimited data and signed a new contract 6 months ago
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And yet it is true.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it was in the last batch of upgrades the did between when the announced the change, and when it actually went in to effect.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seeing as how 6 months ago, there were no unlimited data plans in their offering...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: they announced the change on January 4th of last year and they went into effect on January 15ish, they didn't give a lot of time
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, for what its worth, via their website - As I don't qualify for a subsidized upgrade - if I go to purchase a new phone at full price, it is very clearly labeled as "Upgrade at full price"
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have a business account? because business accounts can still be unlimited
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, personal.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Signed my new contract on Feb 29th of 2012
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So a bit longer then I thought it'd been.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 10.5 months
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: there a way to add an enter keystroke to a cexit?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: having a problem with a cexit any help available?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: what's the issue?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: trying to figure out a wait command for kobal to buy a pass on go upstairs
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: easier just to do the goal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its ;wait(5);
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its in the help file
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Still, easier to just do the goal. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: portal for goal here?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not portal, but no need for pass anymore.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: or just nopass
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: is there an option i can turn on to allow color codes to automatically get captured when i cut and paste from main window?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ctrl+D
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nope, but you can select and press CTRL+D
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're talking about MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: awesome thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: damn I never knew that ... nice Etzli
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't thank me. I didn't put it in.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just knew about it.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: how much mushclient sometimes flashes?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: or was it you blinking
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nah its like a window is opening and then closing super fast
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Probably the database backups running.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ahh, it doesn't always message?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how long will a war go on if nobody ends up getting the win?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 20 mins
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: 20 mins, wrong channel
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: 20 minutes.  MEgabyte!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am looking for a wifi access point that has good support for setting parameters of speed and "standard type" to use for the connection. I am needing this for a test setup where I want to be able to change the speed of the connection, for a test setup. Anyone got any recommendations?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i'm probably going to upgrade my desktop, and am probably going to buy individual components since i still have plenty of working parts
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are there compatibility issues between mobo's/CPU/RAM?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: modern ram will work with modern motherboards. motherboards are based on the cpu
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you'll need the same CPU socket on mobo as CPU, and same type of RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so unlikely i'll be able to use ram from my current setup with a new mobo/cpu?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what generation is it...DDR, DDR2, DDR3?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ddr3 i believe
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: should be fine
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is it a bad idea to mix sticks?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: generally its fine
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I have mix/matched brands in mine
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you mean speeds, lowest speed will be used by all
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: some mobos may have gone the way of mobile innards, where the cpu is soldered into place rather than clamped into a socket for easy upgrade.  Intel is doing so with all their desktop chips starting in 2014 when they debut their next one (at least, at last announcement that was the plan...).
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: does mush work on macs?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: okay, im a bit of a moron, how do i update my mush without losing all my current settings, aliases, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: westclox: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that page has detailed instructions
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: is it easy
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: thanks abe
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: running about 10 behind I figure heh
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea why chkdsk /r is stopping after doing just the file verification process?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Coming up with any errors?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lots of unreadable sectors
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: google said /r is supposed to fix that though, but it doesn't even seem to try
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: We talking a few handfuls, or 'why won't my screen stop scrolling' lots?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: latter
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Most likely a failed disk, in that case, sorry man :-(
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: probably 50-100 unreadables
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Red... is this your OS partition you're trying to check?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so /r won't even attempt it?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, 50-100 isn't so bad :-P Thinking thousands. Disk is still on its way out though, but you could probably pull data
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, but trying to access it tells me that it isn't formatted
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have two partitions on that disk though, i can still access one
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Possible the file structure records are in the corrupted part of the disk. Never had to recover one like that, though I know it's possible
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: strange that chkdsk just stops after stage 1 of 5 though
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: possible virus or tojan infection corrupting part of the MasterBootRecord chain
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All I can see about why it would fail there suggest hardware failure, but if the first partition is ok that seems unlikely
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well i don't know how ok first partition is
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Are you able to get the drive mounted in windows yet, or still going off the USB OS?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: drive is mounted
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though my pc is kinda slow...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How valuable is that 2nd partition (the data, I mean)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: bc the drive itself is almost certainly on its deathbed, probably want to grab as much as possible off it as you want now
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not that valuable
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mainly movies and stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got at the Mush install?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mush is in dropbox, so not really that worried
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so is most important data, so yay for cloud storage
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so yea, data is nice to have but not essential
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh good :-) I love it when the answer isn't "something something irreplaceable"
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In that case I would probably bin the drive completely - a reformat will demarcate the bad sectors, and get the drive usable again, but it's a short term solution
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And in the mean time, I would go for something like HD Sentinel or similar - it automatically tracks the health of your drives, and warns you of issues ahead of time
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: gonna buy new pc tmrw anyway, might as well get an upgrade if i have to install stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Gonna build one? That's always fun :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, will try
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: www.reddit.com/r/buildapc if you didn't already know
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though this drive failing is making my mapbot lag!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: still no clue why i can't attempt a /r on the disk??
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this is question to software vendor rather
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: simply chkdsk not always is able to cope with problems
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Google suggests failing on part 1 (not parts 4 or 5, which are more common) means actual hardware issues, like motor or platters
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: if one partition is accessable then its def not motors
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try use dmde for data recovery
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: both of these partitions are logical drives ?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is possible then first thing you should do is to copy existing HDD to some other HDD - just to do all rescue actions on copy rather than on original HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you could try to use "dmde" to recover some data
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sorry, computer froze up while i was trying to access the failing partition
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: 6-1x2+0/2/2
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: 4
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: please enlighten me
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: vost you are wrong..
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends entirely on if you mean x as a variable or a multiplication sign =p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: there is no possible way you can come up with 4 unless its a random guess
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: the order is 6 - (1x2)+((0/2)/2)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Acheos.. are you trolling? its 4 =p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 6-2+0
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: i disagree
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 4+0
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 4
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Okay, then you're wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As a programmer, you are wrong, move on. Your calculator will lie to you, btw
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As not a programer, he's still wrong =p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: BODMAS = Brackets  Orders Division & Multiplication than Addition& Subtraction  *division and multiplication rank equally are are perfromed left to right  *addition and subtraction rank equally and are performed left to right  SO: 6-1x0+2/2=? is broken down like this  1x0=0,  2/2=1,  6-0=6,  6+1=7
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: you wrote 0/2/2
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: typo :S
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ah, he read his own question incorrectly
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I award you the Order of the Facepalm, 2nd Tier
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: but wait
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh holds his breath in anticipation
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: don't make this worse for yourself :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also went from -1x2 to -1x0
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well there's always order of the facepalm, third tier...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: with gold star and arithmetic campaign ribbon
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: grin
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: stay on tech long enough and you'll reach the ninth tier facepalm
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dantes Enfacepalm
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: 6-1x0+2/2
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: with (un)distinguished service oak clusters!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: enlighten me
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 5, Acheos
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: 7?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: explain daloran
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hee
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: what is this 1s grade math
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wait. 7. my bad
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When you have to remember whether pointers, brackets, dot operator, modulus, comparison or assignment operators happen first, then you start to curse the guy who couldn't just say 'everything left to right'
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Brain decided to get stuck in lalal land a second
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: because everything left to right makes it much less useful
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: ....
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: anyone willing to actually explain instead of being a troll. after all i did ASK the question, SORRY for the typoi
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then someone decides to be 'clever', nests some ternaries, and all of a sudden it's $ ? !!23 : !%$#%$ ? !#$!# : true
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yes Kelvar, Acheos has a test coming up
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: multiplication and division take precedence over subtracting and adding
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: or something
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: https://www.khanacademy.org/math/arithmetic
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: just do everything in the order you're taught.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's 7, Acheos. 6-1x0+2/2. 1x0 becomes 0, and 2/2 becomes 1, so it becomes 6-0+1. Which is 7.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ()x/-+ should be all you need in problems like these
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: so wahts the difference in pemads and bodmas in this example?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They're the same thing, Acheos.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pemads is not a thing
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it is PEDMAS
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast . o O ( writing algorithm for calculator in compsci class? )
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because Parentheses vs Brackets
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PEMDAS and PEDMAS are the same order of operations =p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In the US most people are taught PEMDAS
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That I've ever seen, anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But definitely not Pemads
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, not Pemads. that sounds like something you'd take for cramps.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: An incorrect mnemonic is worse than not studying it at all - an incorrect mnemonic makes you confident while you are wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Things like that is how we get bridges that fall down
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak - are you disputing PEMDAS? or PEMADS 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: PEMADS
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kk. Was going to say, I know Pemdas isn't all inclusive - but - wrong? =p lol.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I know MD = DM and AS = SA
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: or just write the bloody symbols out and practice until it becomes second nature.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My order of operations look a little more like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#Programming_languages
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Except then you get one language which just HAS to be special, and bugger it all up
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So it turns out Python has no increment operator. Not impressed o.0
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: like a "math add 1?"
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: internet says var++ doesn't work Var += x will increment by x though
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: you could alwys make your own too :P 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, += 1 is the way. Problem is, var++ is a valid construct, which does... nothing.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: var++ is apparently like var + 0 + 0
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This is what you get when 1 person controls all the things, I suppose...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "++ is not an operator. It is two + operators. The + operator is the identity operator, which does nothing. (Clarification: the + and - unary operators only work on numbers, but I presume that you wouldn't expect a hypothetical ++ operator to work on strings.)" http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1485841/behaviour-of-increment-and-decrement-operators-in-python
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got that one :-P First google result and all
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I miss C++ and my 'If I want an operator, I'll make my OWN operator, with blackjack, and hookers'
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: you cant create your own in python?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So why would you say theres no increment operator when +=1 is equivlent =p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's interpreted, of course you can't :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because += 1 is not an operator
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: var = var + 1 would also be equivalent, not the point
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shrug. not being a programmer I guess the distinction is lost on me. I don't really see how its any different then the ++ and +=1 in C++
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All to do with readability, convention, and common constructs - people are so used to seeing the ++ form from C languages
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I suppose. That stackoverflow talks a little bit about it though, in terms of why its not neccesary 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: I use bast spell up and about 80 of my spells have been marked as "not learned" even though they have. I can't figure out how to remvoe this so they will work again. 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: In Zmud, is it possible to export your layout so you have the exact one on another computer?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: What's the best free linux shell?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: how do i escape semicolons in blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: putting two together didn't work?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: didnt
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: are there any plugins that enable beeps/sounds on certain lines?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: for mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: easy to do with a trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: "on certain lines" is pretty vague :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: i want a sound to be played when I get a tell from someone
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: make a trigger for "*just sent you a tell." and select a sound file for it
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: By default it doesn't say that though I think
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I just get <name> tells you ''
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Which would ping from mobprogs, but rarely
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Winkle has a sound plugin you can probably just exttra his sound triggers from it :)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: but prob easier to just make a trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: any ideas why i cant open help in mushclient? (windows 7 64)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: OMG Y U R MESS WITH MY TRIGGAZ
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: ohh, if you don't use catchtell..but I think most do
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: windows 7 doesnt support help files by default
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: (it is a feature not bug), so you need to install support for help files
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i get the variables from a given string so that i can otput them in whatever form? for triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean world.GetVariable("<var_name>") ?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ill try that thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i would like to be able to send the name of an item when i lore it to a variable, how would i set the name as the wildcard
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: eg | Name       : Jade Elixir                                        | send jade elixier to varialble name
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not sure regex can directly assign to variables in a trigger pattern.  In CMud you would do &varname.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: use a ()
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: then %1
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: that gave me an empty variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: copy/paste the line?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: did you also click the regex box?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i then bracketed the ariable like you said and then the %1
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: regex is ticked
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Name.+: (.+)$
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Name       : Apprentice's Scrub Brush
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: would save that to %1
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: how are you setting the variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: that gave me "Jade Elixir                                        |" is there a way to remove the spaces and line ?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use trim.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: tbh im completely new to variables in muchclient
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yes, tighten up the regex.  I don't know the line you are triggering so that one only works for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: .+ tests for everything
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put a \s*| before the $
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im trigeriing off | Name       : Jade Elixir                                        | but only wanting the name
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Bast, how can he capture one word or two words in a single regeX?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: good point
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Meanind Name : Jade Elixir OR Name  : Jade
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Half-Baked Eggplant Tech: anyone know why i wouldnt get mud info on my main window in the much client?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put a \s\s+| before the $, try that
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: just want jade elixier
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I'm not sure either :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mine does that about every 10th startup egg, I have to keep restarting it. it will accept commands, and I get conversations in the communication window.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: how is a "word" defined in mushclient? like in zmud it's (%w)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: If you only want jade elixir... what's the point in passing the variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Half-Baked Eggplant Tech: yea thats what mine is doing but it does it everytime i try to start it up
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i wish I could give you some snazzy solution.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im trying to gather a few variables and then putting them together in an output
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: jade elix just being my test item
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ok well this would work good for 2 word names   ^Name.+: (\w+ \w+)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that would pass jade elixir only
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: or Green elixir
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: but not elixir
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: ah, (\w)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Name.+: (.+)\s\s+$ should get anything
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh nice Bast
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ill try bast solution
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Except it'll still throw those large spaces.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: unfortunatly that gave m a blank variable
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: so Name.+: (.+)\s\s+$ gave me blank variable and Name.+: (.+)$ gave me the long spaces
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Name.+: (.+)\s\s+|$ should get anything, oops forgot the |
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, you're still getting too many spaces, I think.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \| Name\s+: (.+)?\s\s+\|$ -- Try that.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems like sed or perl
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, Bast, yours still gets all the trailing spaces.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: well etzil gave me a variable wihout the line but left the spaces
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But so does mine.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: bast didnt get a variable
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \| Name\s+: (.*?)\s\s+\|$
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There we go.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I had the ? in the wrong spot.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: k will try
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: hi, how can I hide the coord that appears in main wondow?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: thanks etz that worked
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: knew we would get there eventually
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: {coords}1,54,9
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: tags coord off, if you're not using it.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Bast about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: it appears again
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: AardMUSH uses the coords, I believe. Not 100% sure. I thought it was omitted, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure how to help you otherwise. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Etzli what does the ? do in that regex
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: -10
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: whoops
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh btw. Regex tester    http://regexhero.net/tester/
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I prefer http://gskinner.com/RegExr/ myself.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and you can click on groups to see the variables parsed
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ooo
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh wow that one has teh commands listed
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tend to make my own character classes, since different regex engines define character classes differently
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: \w doesn't mean the same thing in all programs/languages, for example
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Wow, that sounds complicated.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it ends up being simpler, with less to remember, and fully-portable so the regex will work everywhere :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In Lua's "regex", it's %w, for example. 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [a-zA-Z] is clear what it means, for example
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [A-z] should be clear, too. :P Or [a-Z], anyway.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ahh i see what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it SHOULD be clear, but A-Z in ASCII are not adjacent to a-z...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: so it is \s\s+ or just \s\s that got rid of the spaces
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \s\s+
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Could even do \s{2,}
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Instead of \s\s+
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ill stick to \s\s+
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i know that works so far
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \s{2,} just means "2 or more spaces".
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \s{2,30} would be "At least 2 spaces, but no more than 30"
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Any way to make gskinner.com display the outputs of its () groups?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haldrik: Yes, if the line is highlighted, it's matching, so move the mouse over the highlight and it'll tell what's in each group.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh i see, so my regex didnt match :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: well thats just weird, its a relatively simple regex
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What line are you trying to match, and what's your regex?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: A /w+ /w+
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: A small snail
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You have your slashes backwards.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: A \w+ \w+
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And those are group captures, either.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah i took the () out to troubleshoot :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you want to capture the groups, you'd do: A (\w+) (\w+)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do you get it show somthing a certain colour when represents that the following is a variable
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: /
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: is there any help for S&D (like mapper help command) I need to figure out how to reset my gui window, its in a bad spot and unmovable to me
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try xrt reset I think
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: that tried to runto area reset :)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "xset reset gui" should do the trick
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: yes yes, thank you - exactly what i was looking for :)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Is there a way to make an alias that does these commands for an alias, bs <mobname>
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: so that it will open on a mob in a room, with backstab, then continue to spam about 4-5 skill commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Really R. Bigman Tech: bot alert!!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Really R. Bigman ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: its a kibblebot!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: LOL! I just wanted to make it easier for myself when clearing rooms enmasse!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's... the definition of botting.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Really R. Bigman Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone else see this US government advisory to disable java completely for the time-being?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Honestly they are 100% right
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: because of an exploit?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Because of exploit after exploit that takes months to patch :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: My workplace told us all to uninstall months ago because of the last exploit a few months back.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: maybe August?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yeah, I've had the Java browser plugins disabled for... goodness knows how long.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: same
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Only time I've missed it is when I wanted to check out some new fangled java mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Firefox flagged them as malicious a while ago, it was that bad.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try "bsp sadd" with some spell you should be able to add
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mt
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Mushambo just go to add/remove programs and remove it entirely.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: huh, time to figure out how to disable java in firefox, I guess... anyone know offhand?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: is it a plugin or something?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Even if I only look at shady sites through Sandboxie?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone have problems with a cmud #walk randomly addind get 679110903 3849701 "run <color coral></color>" to a SW i cant seem to track down where its coming from
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's very likely script specific for you. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Defending his clannies, Mendaloth explains HelperMan Hadar that maze navigators are not illegal!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You yell "LEAVE Mendaloth ALONE!!" as he is being snooped by Book of Etzli again...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: figured it out, my areaportal alias was calling out function color coral></color> because i deleted alias color coral></color>
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: does anyone use bast eqdb or eqsets ?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: anyone know how to script in lua?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just ask the question, if someone knows the answer they will
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomicron Tech: any advice for high priest in kerofk?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: wrong channel 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: dont confess!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: try question/answer channel
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomicron Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: is anyone interested in writing lua scripts for me that's compatible with mobile devices
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's a pretty vague question :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sorry, I can't write a script that'll summon an aggro mob, but let you die to a non-aggro mob.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: well I'm willing to pay
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 1. You have to have mobile client capable of running Lua scripts. 2. I doubt what you want would be accomplished anyway.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: well yea I did my homework, bbssh is lua coded apparently
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: actually there is a apple app that runs basic lua scripts :)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: have one on my phone.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i think ios has lua support, never coded anything for it though
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at The Reaper Myrkul.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Being Lua coded and being able to run Lua are two different things.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: bbssh can run lua
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: and some other thing like void
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really now, because I'm not finding anything that says it can run Lua scripts. I do see, however, it's controled by external Lua scripts.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, script does not automatically mean lua...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ranrr: He wants specifically Lua scripts.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok. I just saw the request for "scripts".
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You didn't look back far enough.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Any bast gurus on?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never ask who's here or if you can ask
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody can answer an unasked question...just ask the question
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Heh...i have several areas in my mapper that are a mess...is there a way to reset and re-record an area and it's custom exits? Also one area, Kingsholm is fine but it will not keep a record of next as a custom exit for over half the seals any tips?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, for starters, the mapper has nothing to do with Bast :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Ok ok i admit to being technically illiterate :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: mapper purgezone areaname
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as for next: if you're running an older version of WinkleWinkle's search and destroy, it uses a command "next" which interferes with kingsholmm
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so don't use the purge command until after you're sure that that is not the case
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: How would i check my version Abel?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'dopen up the plugin file in a text editor
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: I saw purgezone in help but it sounded a bit final to just go pushing the button hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: type next
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and btw, "mapper help" is a great resource...purgezone is under "mapper help utils"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it is final, it deletes the area from the database entirely, letting it be recreated the next time you go there
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually only when you have very old mapper database you should use purgezone - by old I mean that database contains area which was replaced by new one
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: current versions of the mapper automatically purge the old area on renames
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nice to know, so I think the only case to use purgezone is playing lasertag
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: So first i check the version i have correct?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you're on a campaign, try typing "next", see what happens
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it takes you to the top-listed target in your campaign window, then you know you need to update winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, then that's not it...I'd try adding the cexits again by going through the seals, or at least listing the cexits in kingsholm by using "mapper cexits area" when you're there
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: I redo the cexits everytime i get a mob there so i would estimate i have down that over 50 times
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does it say when you list them?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you have to delete the previous cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: before putting in a new one
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: 2 other uses for it would be to help a new character get explored up in an area using the unmapped commands, and for this type of issue where you think that you've got more issues in an area's setup than would be worth doing mapper purgeroom many times
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Ahhh...so i can purge a single room not an area? Then i revisit the room and redo the cexit?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: mapper delete cexits
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: in the room you want to clear them from
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what is the symptom when you try to mapper where 27664?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: run dsw2ne3w2s
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: "run dsw2ne3w2s
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start the line with a ;, if that was supposed to be more
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so ;tech <paste>
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: "run dsw2ne3w2ssay sealsnexto e e oe e oe e oe e oe e
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you have cexits opening the doors you need to delete
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: go to each room and type mapper delete  cexits;
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: go to each room and type mapper delete  cexits;;mapper cexit next
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: without the double space
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or the double ; (although I don't think it hurts like the space does)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: tech Perfect i think that is going to be my issues in Mudwog, Kobaloi and the others as well thanks folks i'll try and sort it now
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you should be able to just keep hitting enter (or up-arrow enter) repeatedly (but wait until one's registered before thenext)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much better than reexploring the whole area :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: will purgezone remove also cexits ?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every trace of that area is gone
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Oh ye gods yes Kingsholm and Kobaloi are to big for that hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: I seem to be failing the cexits...would lag be doing that?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you done goal in kingsholm?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: read your screen, it should be obvious
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you're doing only one at a time...from the first room get rid of that room's cexits, then mapper cexit next...then wait until it says it's done before doing anything else
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: CEXIT FAILED Custom Exit next leads back here!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: read the rest of your screen, what happened when you tried to next
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you move between the time you typed "mapper cexit next" and that message?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just for fun...type "alias next"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Removed custom exits from the current room. CEXIT WAIT FOR CONFIRMATION BEFORE MOVING. This should take about 2 seconds. Custom Exit CONFIRMED 27661 (next) -> 27662
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, that's what we wanted so far
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Straight run to Seal of Kingsholm....thanks again i'll try and fix the others now :)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Ninjato on and wish him good luck!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: A newbie just asked this and he is having difficulty with his phone:
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: hi I'm new here but I'm having a problem on my phone. The keyboard that should appear on screen (I use an LG Spectrum) is not visible. I can only type by pasting things into the text bar which is at the bottom of my screen. Does anytime know if there's a way to adjust the settings so I can use the keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: anyone can help?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: mxit should be burned at the stake.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the phone's OS and the program he's using...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: he says LG Spectrum
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't see mxit mentioned in the question
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, so googling tells me that it's android-based...now we're up to finding out what program he's trying to use
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: his complaint is  that the virtual keyboard doesn't show  up
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ever in any program, or just in the one he's using for here?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if ever in any program, where's he getting the text to paste?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if just in the program he's using to connect to here, what program is it?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: he says he creates the text in the message window the cut/pastes it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: is this real life?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: lol.. does he use blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so he can get the virtual keyboard, he  just can't get it in this program (which we haven't named)...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: blowtorh
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: right, blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: should be able to double tap in the box, maybe turn the screen and see if it comes up
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: For me, blowtorch opens the virtual keyboard when I press on the bottom command line
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try going into options, to input, and toggling full screen editor or compatibility modfe
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: fyi, this is the "aardwolf rpg" version of blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no functionality difference between aardrpg and vanilla, so all suggestions should work on either
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Abelinc, do you know if blowtorch supports ssh yet? I'd love to be able to combine it's buttons/macros with tintin.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think there's been any blowtorch development in a while...you could always open up telnet on your linux box tho :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How hard can it be to add ssh to blowtorch, diy! :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it wouldn't be trivial if you had the source code, but I don't think it's opensource
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I wonder if connectbot is open source.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: looks like it is
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /quest
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Forgot to turn off the quest bot, huh?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def quest = /if (has_aard_helm=~"Y") /questor %; rem $[aard_helm] %; quest request %; wear $[aard_helm] %; /else /questor %; quest request %; /endif
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just my "go there and ask" macro
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Don't want invis mobs, huh?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc they even removed that functionality from the quest request check though
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: used to be handy to bypass all invis and most hiddens...not because of their visibility status so much as just greater percentage of those one are a bitch
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use my helm except at low levels anyway, so it's usually just go there & request
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: im confused, why remove helm for quest request?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: sorry to come in at the end. i re read -h,still confused
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, at least when I started playing here, when you request a quest, the game asks you to "look" at each of the MOBs which would qualify for your level...if you could see them, they were put into the pool ofcandidates that were chosen at random
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so ensuring that you cannot see some of the harder targets could be done by removing your detects
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd NEVER get an invis target, and would only get a sneaking/hidden target at reduced rate
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it'd depend on you passing that "look" check's saving throw
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so a common practice was to request quests without detects...removing the helm is the easiest way to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has anything helped the newb?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: my s&d says No item exists, or data busy (try again) ever time, i just restarted mush and this started, i tried 'reinstalling' the 3 plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: that was odd, i restarted mush 5 times, plugin started working on the 5th try...odd...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: works now tho...odd
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: so i've asked a couple times, but haven't seen an answer that works yet. when i type 'mapper portal <alias>' with a working alias, in the room where the alias lands, it returns an output of <alias> - roomid - levelofportal
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: but if i then type mapper portals, no portals are listed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: what am i doing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you use most recent mapper version?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: how do i check
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i haven't updated in a month or so
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is month or so then version is not problem 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was a glitch which was only present for like a week at the end of september
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe some alias / trigger consumes 'mapper portals'
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you get header info (# | area     | room name      | vnum) after mapper portals ? or no output at all ?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can see your current aardmush version by typing "checkversion"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1698 is the one that fixed the broken mapper portal command on oct 1
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, "mapper portals" should have the header box, and the bottom box of "* Indicates designated bouncerecall/bounceportal"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how would you go about making something that auto quaffs a mana pot when a certain threshold is reached
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: carefully
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd take my autoquaff plugin, update it for GMCP rather than statmon, and change it to mana...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but really, automatically quaffing mana can put you into danger if you're pretty low on mana and go into an aggro room
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the quaff is a round of combat that you can't heal or flee
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: surely it cant be a bot redryn because a quaff mana script or trigger cant gain you exp or anything except if you any other scripts right?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it could be in conjunction with other scripts
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eg autocast, and if you end up afk following someone in group
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yes then it would be risky but alone it only is a convience when you are enchanting or spelling up or after a fight 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: afkfollowing someone in a group is the illegal activity, not an autoquaff (that's just an accessory)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It would be other actions that were illegal, not the autoquaff itself.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I prefer having green/yellow/red bars to let me know when to quaff, and have only ever had a trig on the BLEEDING! message
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i only have a beep on quest available as a trig
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: so whats the lua syntaxs to ignore what comes before / after a variable in matching a string
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Is there a way I can make something to track my movement, opening doors etc, then output a string to me so I can make aliases? 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: what client do you use?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is there anyway to get to add strings onto the end of other string variables
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: metzli, with mush, try reading "mapper help exits"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: you can program your mapper to open doors for you.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: um, ok? lol
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: If by mapper you mean that search and destroy stuff I don't use it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: no the mapper that cones with mush...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: just looking for an easier way to make mobwalks than writing down my speedwalks on a piece of paper then converting them into a sw :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody pats Metzli on his head.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: you could use "mapper find roomname" using roomname the mobwalk ends in, and speedwalk to the room, and copy/paste the speedwalk the mapper uses? is all i can think of to avoid paper&pencil
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Hmm that might help, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: theres also a plugin that uses duckbats massivly huge mob database, might wanna look into that. provides roomnumbers for most mobs.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how would i be able to add strings onto the end of the variable that at the end gets outputted
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: note
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lulz
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Any particular reason why Winkles Search & Destroy plugin spams cp check 3 times?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Do variables expand differently in a regex?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: is it possible to expand a variable before regex does a match?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: or i guess the variable expands in the matching trigger line
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: in Regex can you match ^ or \w
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: evening folks.  anyone here currently using MaG on mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Does anyone know if there is a way to make a variable expand inside a trigger pattern?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Looks like it need to be: (ariable) in a trigger match
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the trigger is set at definition time...you can leave that part of the trigger wildcard and test against the variable in the body of it though
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Sorry (@variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try the mushclient faq at: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794 item 22 is what you want
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nice bast!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i am pretty sure it has to be set with setvariable, it won't just pull variables from the script space
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh cool, more flexible than I gave it credit for :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Hmmm.  So using the in game variable command won't work?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: going to test right now
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me, I woulda written my "set this variable" alias to be "set this variable, then redefine trigger foo to be a pattern with it"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no in-game variable command, just alias command
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: sorry, I meant using the mushclient variable versus "setvariable" in send to script
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SetVariable("varname","value") sets the things that you see in game -> configure -> variables
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so those variables are what works
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods abe
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh ok, so all of the standard game commands are made using LUA?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: like alias/trigger/variable
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haldrik P sorry trying to sort everything out in my head
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's recommended to use it, but MUSHclient can use a dozen languages
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: aliases, triggers and variables aren't standard game commands, they're client-dependent
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'll be able to get the most help here if you stick to lua
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ok, so doing vairable (a|b|c) does not work in the trigger, it has to be a|b|c   and then (ariable)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: (@variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: if using regex :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: forget that junk
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: trigger off a variable (a|b|c) using regex
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you're not
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to do
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: making a targetting variable
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's HOW you think you want to do it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your targetting variable shouldn't consist of a b and c...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so...what do you plan to do
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: easier to type then the mob names :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: (A|An) (?:.+)?@level60mobs?\b.+\.$
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your targetting variable should be one thing
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not multiple things
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: SetVariable("target", "%1")
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: --SetVariable ("target", "%2")
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: thats what im doing
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use an alias though
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: alias k *
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you only target one mob at a time...there's no a|b|c involved in a single possible value...and you cannot use the name of a MOB to target it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: followed by Send ("target %1")
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: If i create a list of mobs then the first one in the room gets passed into %2
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: then I use my alias to kill it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no amob|bmob|cmob involved in that
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: alias to set target/kill macro to repeat last target
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So confused.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: if there is multiple mob names?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only one.ever.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the others aren't targets
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only one is the target
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the others can be waiting to become targets
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yes clearly, but that pattern puts the first one in the room into %target
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: which probably isn't super effective heh :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: targetting script isn't that easy to make... took me 3 days high on speed and weed to make one :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I'm getting there, I'm going to make an array next
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: just makign a piece at a time
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I really want to parse the room into a new window.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: table should've been the first thing to be made...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: with the mob names
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: parsing to a new window is the easiest part, really
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Well I know arrays, dont know much about tables
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you don't need the mobs in variables you can just capture stuff between the roomchars tags into a miniwin
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh really?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I didn't know abotu roomchars tags.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Ixle.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags roomchars on"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh awesome.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then take the ASCII mapper plugin file, duplicate it...make a new plugin ID for it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I love you guys :)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the MAPSTART and MAPEND trigs to be {roomchars} and {/roomchars}
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you've got a capture
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you started with the ascii mapper, it'll also have the send to front/back, move by grabbing the titlebar and resize grabber
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delete the hover zone for the symbol key
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Great. I'm looking at the plugin right now.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's how I've done half of my capture plugins :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (actually starting with some of mine may be easier cuz I've already cut out that stuff)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the only annoying thing about the list is that it's players and mobs mixed together.  Not too, too bad if the room's mostly empty, but on big groupruns or in supercrowded rooms it can become unwieldy
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: rofl, oh the joys of kids videos. And the germ kid said "was I also born in a turd!?"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: mischan...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ahh yea good point Hanslanda.  MAybe i can put a check in to limit it to 10 lines or smoething
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: But basics first
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and for the final dumbing-down of playing, you can make hyperlinks of that captured window so you click on the MOB...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but remember that I mentioned that you cannot use a MOBname to target it...names are not [necessarily] keywords
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's why databases are so useful.  Can look that stuff up and most of the time queries are going to be lightning-fast.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which then takes you into the complexity of a lookup table of in-room names to keywords
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: who would win if a databsae fought a hash table?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah so save the mob long name into teh databae wit hthe keyword
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: then link it with a hyperlink or what not
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hash table is a form of database
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Depends on how concentrated the hash is?  How much hash is the table smoking? That's a fairly significant variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher Tells Juictice Chill...Because Its TiMe FoR a FaTtY, bOoM bAtTy,BlUnT.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: lets say its not smoking hash but is smoking that special K 52 stuff or whatever abu is selling at 7-11
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the fake weed stuff that gives you cancer?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: wait, i'm going to get cancer from this stuff?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: you already have cancer
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: has isn't fake weed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Cancer's overrated.  Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.  Smoke away, I say!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's compressed weed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lip, tongue, throat, or lung.  Take your pick.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let's be clear on something here. inhaling the product of combustion will always increase your cancer risk. it doesn't matter what burned.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: are you surprised that drugs can have bad effects? You need to read more.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you roll a natural 1, you gotta pick twice.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah cancer is so overblown... most of us get cancer simply from breathing air
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Chemotherapy isn't very fun, though, sadly.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you develop cancer, don't get it...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: chemo sux, smoke weed instead
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you're into mommy boobs, you can get it from the rocket fuel lacing the baby-juice.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz cancer is you
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: after the chemo smoke weed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I thought it was like, cooties and stuff? That you caught it from hookers and stuff.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The funny thing about getting cancer is that chemo also causes cancer.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: I already got cancer once, I'm immune now.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the weed makes the chemo more tolerable (in all senses of the word)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well weed andf some other googlable herbs :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: weed is probably one of the safest drugs. It "only" makes you stupid.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: All cancer treatments are themselves carcinogenic.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: True that, Fiendish.  Life's just a pain, isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 50/50 was a good movie :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's even worse, considering where weed-smokers typically start from.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: and it makes you hungry for nachos
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I resent that statement.  Just because I'm eating Doritos right now doesn't mean I smoke!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I resemble that remark
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: they're curing it now with attenutated HIV, didn't you haer?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: weed makes you mistake lineman's cable for a bungie rope
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the stupid part of weed isn't permament as long as you don't start to early and screw your development up...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: we should just legalize it and tax it as a commodity
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i agree, tax that shit make money
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: the sky is blue wario
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, tax it like cigarettes.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i've been smoking weed for 20 years
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: wouldn't know I'm color blind
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cigs for 9
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: you won't make money taxing it if people can grow themselves and sell it to each other for less
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the brain damage is permanent from weed smoking, do it enough, and it will be noticable (just as with alcohol)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like cigarettes? you want 20 grams for 6 bucks?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: look at cali
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why is this even on tech?? *ponder*
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: the weed they sell in shops is 1000 time better than hippy joes weed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you get brain damage from living, just ask any football player
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CaptainDude Tech: plus you would know what you buy is what you get, not laced with anything,
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: orgasms kill more brain cells than weed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: for adults the main problem with weed is "temporary psychosis" (when your short term memory is fried)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: (not that most of you would know)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: iv'e been there once
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 10 years ago
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: got a source for that, J?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i did drugs once
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you do drugs everyday
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swirls of Rumour Tech: Let's move this off Tech - thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You know, you should probably move drug-related talk to curse channel or something.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: naw i did drugs once and 8 years later i stopped
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: hah someone butt hurt he cant do drugs
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really. Just not the discussion for tech, really, as Rumour pointed out.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no grua, they are just an imm stepping in to redirect the topic and btw you shouldn't say that curse word you did on here either
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok how about this anyone ever seen a computer that when you try to browse to a website it asks you for router username and password?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: butt?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no, the word for what comes out of a butt
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have, when I try to access my router, Vorpes.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod this is when trying to go to google
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's kinda standard, so that random turds can't just hack you out of your own hardware.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can set up your network to fake-dns and redirect to a login page.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Many open wifi networks do this.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am just trying to figure out what virus this thing has
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: Hi techs, can someone think of a really hard password for my email account?  Looking for one that would be very hard to crack.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: kojiro1111
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anything that is the max characters long
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use LastPassword and have it generate a password for you. Or use any password generator that has special characters and alphanumeric possibilities.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: try using the first sentence from the unibomber's manifesto.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Silly Mokg.  You need more numbers in that.  It should be Kojiro1234.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: thats the same amount of numbers
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: he means more unique numbers
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "correct horse battery staple"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: ¿~
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Yes.  I just couldn't say what I meant clearly, because I am an idiot.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You should use a simple word, and also use the same password everywhere, so it's easy to remember. 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just make your password "password". No one ever guesses that anymore.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Also, Abelinc, kudos for that reference!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: pssw0rd1
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: p@ssw0rd1
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: gruag stop telling everyone my password
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: moonrocks
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 1dr0wss@p!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, etz is getting tricky
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I just use 123456789
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: etzli what is the translation of that netspeak?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: you can always use a shortsentencewithnospaces
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: shortsentencewithnospacesilikethatideathanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: juictice: it was password backwards...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: had to inform employees at work that they have to change their voicemail passwords. almost everyone had theirs as 1111
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (well, password1)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oo! Here you go... !tnUfccyb1
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Default password are bad, should never be used in a system that is supposed to be secure.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: "unguessable"  no one will ever try that because that'd be a paradox.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a shame you had to pass up an awesome pranking opportunity.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, avaya voicemail won't let you set a voicemail password of just repeated numbers or of just consecutive numbers...but you can use 111222 :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: some old school BoFH
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: assumed things where secure
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: thanksforyourgreatadvicesnowiknowwhati'mgoingtodo.  allset.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: then i got a call that we had made numerous international calls
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: noproblemojuictice
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Convert a password to a fictional language, such as al-bhed or elvish.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: helpipoppedthespacebaroffmykeyboardtomaketypingmypasswordeasierandnowicantgetitbackon(iusedapenforthespaceaftertechtowritethis)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i like mayan
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: fictional language? Like wasyearahymmeEXA_PICO
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The best tip to keep your password safe is to never type it on someone elses computer. And never, ever on a public computer.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: winguardium levosar
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Also, don't make it something like "God" or some stupid shenanigans like others do.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Keyloggers don't care if your password is complex.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's why I use LastPass to keep my password safe! It automatically enters it in for me! :D
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a system that allows OTP helps with that
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: keyloggers can't get your password if you don't have one...just sayin'.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or open up notepad, type a whole paragraph...then copy/paste the letters that make up your password into the password field ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: modern keyloggers capture the clipboard
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: copy and pasting wont protect you
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that many
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: ifihaveakeyloggerthatwouldshowupinmysentmailfolder,right?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Are on-screen keyboards still safe?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you heard about the hackers that used the accelerometer in cell phones laying by the keyboard to log the keystrokes of the keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Like, the ones you click the individual letters on?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: as far as I know yes lulz
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you can get a keylogger on your computer, you can get a field scraper on your computer.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: nowariowhatisanacellerothingy?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Field scraping is so much easier than keylogging, as it is less of a public Fear Factor
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but your "if you can" scenario isn't true...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: FIXED by swapping out keyboards.  Protip:  don't pop your spacebar.  What is a field scraper and an accelerometer?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get a keylogger onto a computer without any rights...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Their vectors are close enough to identical as makes little difference, unless we're talking physical interject (keyboard->phys. logger->tower
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pop a dongle into usb port, plug keyboard into dongle...can't get a screen scraper like that
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: )
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: An accelerometer is the thing that tells you which way is up on an Android or an iPhone, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it lets your portable detect motion
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: well my GSIII doens't orient correctly anymore, does that mean i have an acclerometer virus scraper?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it is?  I thought the term was gyroscope?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which way is up, plus records motion in any direction, including vibrations
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: afaik they usually use gyros to do so
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what we often call a gyroscope nowadays has nothing to do with actual gyroscopes, and is generally a more-generic accelerometer
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't think there would be a way to fit a proper gyroscope into a phone, no matter how you scaled it down :|
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: An accelerometer measures the effect a gyroscope has on its surrounds, from what I know
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you can read about it on popular science
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: current issue
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: weapons masters on netflix
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I read about it about 9 months ago on GCN iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it was one of the tech colleges
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh dear.   the command for expanding variables inside matching pattern is (@!variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: 6 hours later i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: anyone using Mudlet and MaG?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you & 1 other person
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: I used it. I can't highly suggest enough scrapping it and using Aaard Mush with Wine if you're a Mac user like me 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: on windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: then yes, go with aard mush - it's far superior 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's an even bigger no-brainer
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: I waited over 3 months to switch to the aard mush from mudlet - such a waste of time 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: never heard of it, I use mudlet for my other muds, first time here.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its really awesome
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to aard's website, click on the screenshot
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: finger fiendish - he has the mush download URL 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: basically mushclient with custom built plugins for aard
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: looking it up right now
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is here: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/index.htm
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: no tis shere! https://www.dropbox.com/s/7s0yaahe5938q5t/2013-01-12%2021.13.32.jpg
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: iw sinw.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: back in a moment, will see how this goes.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: wow, yeah definitely a lot done here.  Thank you for the suggestion.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is there a way to abort an automatic reboot for windows updates in windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Stop the Windows Update service
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cool, that seems to have done it, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: ^_^
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: is there a way to make this mushclient keep the last command in the input area?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ys
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: autno comnand conf
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I'm having trouble finding it.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: repaat.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_make_commands_stay_on_the_input_line_after_I_hit_enter?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: %%
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ^6
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar claps at The Reaper Myrkul's performance.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: sory
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: where are triggers/aliases stored if you use teh standard "trigger" in the menus?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in the world file
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: if i make changed to the world file using a different program, will it update in the client?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wouldn't try it while the client's running
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ooo
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you can use copy/paste from for example notepad 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No.  It doesn't load the file unless you open the world again, or reopen the client.  And generally it would save over your changes when you close the client.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Basically, what Myrkul said: don't edit the world file while the client is open :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So whats the best wait to edit triggers/scripts if you want to do it with the tags?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: instead of using the ingame trigger window for example
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could make a plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: make a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Do it in a plugin.  
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go to game -> configure -> triggers, you can actually paste them right into that window
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Very useful feature
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as in, you can past the XML, without having to replicate each of the fields, dropdowns, checkboxes, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh.  So all those LUA tags can go straight into the configure = triggers?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: XML tags
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lua doesn't use tags
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: so mush converts the lua to tags when it saves it?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most triggers, aliases, etc don't really have anything to do with lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and if fiendish was here, he'd point out that Lua is not an acronym, so i'll do it for him :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Haha, I didn't think it was.  Fail typing on my part.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lua and xml are two different things
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I thought it was Like Using Ada
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triggers CAN USE lua...triggers aren't WRITTEN IN lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lua is the actual scripting language, xml just stores the data in a formatted way easy for code to read
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ok, that makes sense.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a trigger on "You are hungry" that does "get drink bag ; gulp drink ; put drink bag" has no lua to it at all
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So if i made a plugin i could edit it on the fly in notepad for example?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: but you can make a trigger call a lua function that you've built.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a trigger that is "Send to script" and has ThisFunction(foo,bar) uses lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You'd have to keep reinstalling it in mush
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But yes you could
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can, you'd need to reload it in the client for the changes to process though
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ahh ok.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reloading it can be a feature of the editing function, though...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Can be annoying imo, if there is an error it opens up a huge window.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there's no reason to edit the plugin itself...the plugin's variables, etc are separate from the plugin and aren't in the plugin file itself
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah ive seen that window a couple times, can be jarring
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I'm about to dig into this scripting/triggers here.  need to gag what's being sent to the comm's log
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmm, so i can pretty much use any Lua including local variables, fucntions, etc inside the game--->configure-->> trigger inwdow
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gag it?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there is a check mark in the trigger window for gag :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Gloindren: right click in the comm log, it has options to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the comm log...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the comm log is HUGELY customizable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click EVERY INCH of your mushclient...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish put in cool configs to everything
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: very nice indeed
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: he definitely put a lot of work into it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I'm looking forward to digging through the scripts and learning a bit.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: It's really cool Gloindren
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yes haldrik: you can use all of mushclient's scripting functions, which includes lua functions, within triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: what's it written in?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Combination C and Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its really cool to be able to use a real language 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mushclient itself in C, the plugins in Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient itself is in c++
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: instead of Cmud or Dragonrealms script engine, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can look at my stuff too: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it drops into the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Bast's stat tracker is really cool
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: average quest is 54 seconds :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, ++? Only seen Gammon talk procedural. Though quite possibly procedural ++, some people are insane like that :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most plugins are in lua, but you can write them in lua, vbscript, jscript, perlscript, python, tcl, phpscript & ruby
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Hahaha... Yes :) Ok just used my first function
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, http://mushclient.com/mushclient/mushclient.htm...first line on the main mushclient page: Written in C++ for speed and compact size!
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: simple aliases are a pain already.  send recall
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: haldrik, cmud supports tons of languages just like mushclient, including lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: everyone uses lua for scripting because it is built into mushclient, the other languages are hard to get working in a non-windows os
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah i ment the basic one Myrkul
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there is no "basic one" :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that i learnedb ack in CMUd, i dont think it had scripting languages attached
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it has its proprietary language
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Zmud sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: zugg wrote his own proprietary language, yes, but you're by no means restricted to it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: even zmud supported vbscript and jscript
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud supports any language supported by the windows scripting host
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Maybe does, but its a lot less accessible then mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no it isn't :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, zscript has pretty much been the standard to be used in z/cmud
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's a language dropdown menu in the settings editor
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I used zmud for years and never noticed vbscript and jscript
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hrm, i don't have zmud installed on this computer, so i can't check
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but i'm sure it's there :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Partly im sure it has to do with mushclient helpfiles etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: how do you get commands to run from an alias?? I put them into the send box and it tells me I can't do it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: It literally says "heres how to do it lin 6 langauges"
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod haldrik, that's handy for people who want to use other languages
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gloindren: just put the command
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't put "send recall"...just put "recall"
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I have, but server says I can't do it.  I have  "recall
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without the "
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: exactly as I have it typed, but it won't run it.  Yes, without the "
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type recall into the huge box
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you have in the top thin box?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: bed
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: so I should be able to type in bed  and it will run me to the academy
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: but it's not working.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so top thin box is "bed", huge box is "recall"...and when you type just "bed", it doesn't recall?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: how many commands are in the big alias box?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I got it to work now
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: turns out don't put it in one line with 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually hit enter to put each command on a separate line in that huge box
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why it's huge
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wanted to use ; to stack commands on one line, then you would use the "send to" drop-down to send to execute
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: alright.  I'll remember that
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: default is "send to world", which means "send whatever is in this box"...and aard doesn't stack commands with ; except in aard aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute means "pretend that I typed this into the command line, and parse it like that"
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and send to script is expecting scripting stuff,so you'd need to do Send("this text here") to actually send stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll likely never use any of the other options
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: thanks for all the help.  I'm outta here.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Is there a way to make it so you can access the game window while using the configre -- > alias/trigger  boxes?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take care
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: See ya Gloin
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Or any menus for that matter
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they're modal windows...you're not meant to be in them for long at any time
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: meh, clearly i want it :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, another advantage of MUSHclient is that it's opensource...you could rewrite those routines ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: isn't it hard to compile though, abe?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't be...you'd need VisualC++
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i seem to remember fiendish saying something about it at one point
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it includes the project file
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you need some plugin for visual studio or something
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was written with MFC (Microsoft Foundation Class) libraries and C++ Standard Template Library...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're not likely to be able to compile it with g++ or XCode, but should be pretty straightforward with MS VC++
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course I don't use MUSHclient and have never tried compiling it, so my info's just from skimming gammon's site ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, that was it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: express (free) versions of visual studio don't come with MFC
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this says he basically did a fresh install of VS 6.0 and could compile it: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9613
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i found the same thread... it's halfway down the second page :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that'd certainly be limiting to many hobbyists trying to compile it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the express thing, that is
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod... how much does visual studio cost, anyway?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, looks like about 250 on amazon for academic
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: froogle sez you could get VS2008 Standard for $135.99 :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yay for Dreamspark
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VS 2005 pro for $30 }:>
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Anyone know if the extra macro buttons on a Logitech keyboard, will work with MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, current employer's a microsoft business partner
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could get them to work
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: nice, havent installed it yet.. got another day 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how would depend on how the keyboard sends the signals
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: wow.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I managed to crash mushclient and I lost all the triggers I was working on
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ridiculous
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ctrl+s, ctrl+s F. T. W.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: should save that shit automatically
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why? Delete all, autosave, more whine
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: because its easier to crash then delete all? plus there is backup files in case you delete all
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there some type of autosave at least?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Every 12 hours, I believe
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or program close
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: of course :P have to make an autosave
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I also don't believe the .mcl file creates backups automatically
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which is where the triggers and such are stored
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I use 3rd party backups
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So use 3rd party autosave :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that wont work because mush doesn't save anything
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: If the file doesn't change on my computer, then it doesnt matter
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Anyways apparantly you can just build your own autosave
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Send a ctrl+s, and it autosaves. AHK can do it no worries
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8729
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there we go
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: autosaves now heh
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: any idea how to send a local/global lua variable to the game?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: world.Send(variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Awesome :) ty
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: shift+ctrl+alt+L is your friend :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: love oop
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: so simple
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh nice! Thanks Vaki!
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Procedural and oop are as simple or complicated as the creator of the base code :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I could have said: world.getWorldFactory("
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: some people just dont understand it for some reason though lol
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So world isn't a function, its just modifying send?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whoops - I could have said: world.getWorldFactory("this").activateInput("includeVar = yes", variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: world is an object, or class, idk the implementation and don't really need to either.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah ok.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: so is it world.Send("@variable test")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Depends on how you have stored the variable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: world.Send(getVariable("someVar")) is one way
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: One is stored with SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: one is a local variable in a for loop
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Would world.Send(getVariable("@channel") 500exp until next level.) 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: something like that?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Where is the @ coming from?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh, uh, i keep thinking thats the variable symbol, i guess you dont need it with getVari
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nope. Your concatenation is all screwy as well - try getVariable("channel") .. "some string")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: alright ill get it a shot :) ty
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: very nice, i didn't even know .. existed
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: i assume that works for... everything?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would suggest starting here: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaTutorial
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: .. is string concatenation in Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I mean it should work in all commands then? Like Note and such?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If it's lua, it will work
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: very cool
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: how much does ready boost help my pc speed up
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: omg I love you :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: h -10
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: -10
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: try -h
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Vakieh :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes you said the love word, you cant take it back
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: haha i got it on 3rd try :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I also figured out that I can use a variable in place of a " " on any argument
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can use a variable in place of anything, anywhere - that's why they're called variables :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: well maybe not ANY :) but seems to be working
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Haha... but I'm used to them having some sort of identifier
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: so just throwing down the "variable" is strange to me
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: world.Send(chan_use .. "GQ is on!")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: just so cool :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for gq is on simple trigger seems more efective - it can play sound
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: cool yeah, but why invent wheel again? basts scripts would have done all that and more :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Well, just playing around for 1 and I didn't know bast had those scripts
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I have his stat mon but not that one apparantly
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he even has broadcasters that pick up all stuff from game and you can use them in your own scripts :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah...My brain already hurts :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: on the bright side when i crashed my mushclient running a for loop, I lost 6 hours of work
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and then i found an autosave :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: learned how to plug all that stuff in
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and then had to refigure out everything i did
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: which helped me learn even more
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: how much does ready boost help my pc?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Depends. You capping your RAM? Got shitty drives you read a lot from?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: 1 gig ram
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In that case I'm guessing a lot, because the only OS's which support Ready Boost require more than 1 gig to be more than a nice picture of a blank desktop.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You should probably upgrade that
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right now both iTunes and Mushclient each take up more RAM on my machine than your machine has :-P Rage at memory leaks aside, I find that quite funny
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i have a 8 gig mem stick
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: miniwin_spellup taking 233meg, miniwin_stats taking up 136meg
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: USB mem stick you mean, or RAM stick?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: usb
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: usb
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not USB 3.0 by any chance?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: 2.0
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What am I saying - ignore that last. Forget ReadyBoost, go out and buy a 4gb stick of RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: 2.0
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: buy a bunch! Dirt cheap.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: rather dirt expensive
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lappy, or tower?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I swear to god, I really hate the way these arrays are setup
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: tower
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If I asked you if your motherboard supported DDR3, would you know the answer?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i use ddr2...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: mine does vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Know your mobo model?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: mobo?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: motherboard
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: sec i know its foxconn
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: vak, P4M800P7MB
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who makes a mobo with 2 ddr2 dimms but only single channel? Turns out foxconn does o.0
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can put a maximum of 4 gb in that thing, with 2x2gb sticks. Kingston is the only company still making compatible 2gb sticks, going for $34 ish per stick
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plus shipping to south africa...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001RMAWEY/?tag=pcpapi-20
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And yes, plus shipping
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is win xp you cannot use more than 3gig 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can get it shipped to au for AU$3.42 though
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather if it is 32-bit, XP SP3
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I used 4gb on XP no issues
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SP2 even
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That said, he has ReadyBoost, so earliest is Vista
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i use win 8 pro
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, IIRC Windows 7 32-bit is not able to use whole 4GB
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It uses whole 4gb, but some is pre-allocated to OS, same as always.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You shouldn't :-P Win8 on 1gb is just insane
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: it runs fine for mw
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: it runs fine for me
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then why try and speed things up with ReadyBoost - clearly you have issues with the speed
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: without PAE you have limited address space, so if you have GPU with its own memory, then it decreases available RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tbh with 1gb ram you should try Ubuntu. At least until you upgrade the RAM on it - run off that USB you mentioned
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I used a GT9600 on that XP machine, which had 1gb of memory - still got the full 4gb of ram working fine. That said, not sure if the OS had direct access to that GPU memory
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Is there a command to not stop the script on error?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I really really hate when SetVariable just decides to not work
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: super annoying
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Rofl... SetVariable doesn't work with "0" but works with "1"
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you do setVariable("0"), or setVariable(0) ?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: SetVariable("variable" "0")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: with a comma
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: SetVariable("variable", "0")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that exaclty
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: works flawlessly here
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its inside of an if / else statement
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: might be messing with it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My prefix is / and lang set to Lua, /SetVariable("Testvar", "0") works fine
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: actually 1 isn't working either
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: noen of em are
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your if isn't passing
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 'not working' means what exactly
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have a then?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yea, I set up some debugs too
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Then works, else works
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You seeing errors, or just nothing happens?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its "Else, then "Note("Else working" then Setvariable, then Noteagain checking variable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after the if you need a then before the else...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: the IF THEN is working correctly
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I just created a quick alias and its doing the same thing
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there's no then after the else
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you have it send to script rather than world and execute
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yup doing all that
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ohhhhh, how are you checking the variable after set?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's your issue...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Note
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @variable is not in the SetVariable scope...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I'm using Note(variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that wouldn't work
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @variable is for a variable set using varname = 0
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd want GetVariable() to use the variables which were created using SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: And Note uses ariable? or the varname = 0 ?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: @variable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins will usually use SetVariable and GetVariable for storing the variables, but will then use varname = GetVariable(varname) so that they can reference the variable more easily using just its name
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ok, thank you. Let me fiddle around and see how they are all matching up :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your note would be: Note(GetVariable("testvariable"))
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: but wouldn't ariable get the variable stored in variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: im using some local variabels as well
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's a different variable scope
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless there's a varname = GetVariable("varname") *AFTER* the setvariable, the @varname scope would have the older value
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: ehh, but wouldn't @testvariable get what's stored in testveriable?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will get what is stored in testvariable = xxx...NOT what is stored in SetVariable("testvariable")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The @ notation is only used in the GUI. Lua doesn't know or care about @
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are two different variables which just happen to have the same name
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: so how do you set a GUI variable from within the script?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Say you have a variable myVar. SetVariable("myVar", "5") uses a completely different variable than myVar = 5
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: hmm I have an variable made with SetVariable for dual wielding, and that works
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because you subsequently access it via the GUI, not Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: like SetVariable("dual" , "(09089723)") then dual @dual will actually dual the weapon I set with SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Gammon has a nifty little youtube about it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: dual @dual is in the gui, not script
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: so there is global variables, local variables, gui variables?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you tried world.Send("dual " .. ual) it would fail
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really gui variables,but there are world and mushclient variables
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (fixed) If you tried world.Send("dual " .. @dual) it would fail
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Alright! I got it display the right number using your method Abel.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: ahh that makes sense :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: now to see if im even testing the right variables now :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I created a testvariable of 0...then I did \\\Note(GetVariable("testvariable")) and it printed 0...I then did \\\Note(testvariable) and it printed nil...I did \\\Note("testvariable") and it printed "testvariable"...did \\\Note(@testvariable) and it barfed on the @ ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (created that testvariable using GetVariable, so it showed in game -> configure -> variables
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its funny though, if you open up the variable box it displays it actually works :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err Set
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes Hal, it will appear through setvar. But you must use getvar to subsequently access it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So SetVariable sets the mushclient variable, but it won't transfer over to Lua script variables
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the game -> configure -> variables shows the SetVariable() variables
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: unless you use get
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ok cool :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They will transfer, through the GetVariable function
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whenever you use SetVariable, you get that one using GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: think of them as a pair
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ahhh ok.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: But "GetVar" is built into Setvar?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they persist longer than varname = value, but varname = value is easier to write...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: out of curiousity, why doesn't Send(dual @dual) for example work? Don't you send the command for mush to use?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So really if i wanted to I could pass all my GetVars to varname = and then when I was done pass them back .
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you want to write them often in a given script, you varname = GetVariable("varname"), and can then use them the easy way
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ok great.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and I'm glad im not crazy
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just remember that they're set as of the equals...so the varname = GetVariable("varname") must be AFTER the SetVariable("varname","value")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Rgr.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I got that in something that I made with an incrementer...my echo was always one iteration behind until I realized where it was being converted over
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah, it was definitely making me a bit crazy because it always seemed to fix itself after I started the script again
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: which makes sense because I passed it thru in the beginning
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: haha its funny going back i've done it acouple times and was getting wrong values
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: thanks again for all your help Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Here I was trying to figure out why list-style-type: none didn't work, and all this while there was a literal â¢included.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone get an issue where when they type CTRL+SHIFT+P highlight a plugin and click reinstall - it reinstalls more than one plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: In mushclient that is...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why is that an issue?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, you can send me a list of instances that you think are wrong or misleading and I'll see about fixing them
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: anyone know of a plugin that helps to play poker and kill stuff? like have your poker in a mini window so i can still keep trackof whats going on and be able to kill stuff too. i cant keep up with both for how fast the screen moves as it is now
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i use aardmush client
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: ooh, that'd be pretty neat.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Daresia can code it.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: nah, i really hate doing gui stuff.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: so, I just tried out mudlet with the MAG enhancements but decided to go back to old school TinTin
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: but now I have a line displaying underneath my prompt
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: it is labeled stats.  any idea how to get rid of it?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: Try out the aardmush client.  MUCH better than MaG, though there are a few features that I'd like to have from it.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: tag?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type statmon to toggle that line
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: as for removing the stats and yeah...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: cool, thank you.  statmon did the trick.  I'll try out aardmush too
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: atleast with aardmush it's a seperate client so if you don't like it you can go back to tintin wihtout anything left behind
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: hahaha.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just hahaha.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Have you ever wanted to tell Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg how much of a douche you think he is? Well, now you have the chance. The world's largest social network is offering its users a chance to send a message directly to Zuckerbergs inbox -- for $100.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: that's kinda sad
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: costs $100 to basicly send him an email?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Send me a message! Pay me $100 first!"
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Siren Cera.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: and you wont be sending him anyhow, but some dweebs working for him
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: wow.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there any guarentee he'll actually read it?  LOL
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Psh that's cheap, I only charge 1 million to send to my inbox yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's why I had to laugh.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "OMG! I get to reach out and talk to a celebrity for $100!!!! OMG!!!111111!!!!!!" :p
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: but the bad part is there are going to be idiots who will send him a message for 100 dollars.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I suppose Facebook has to find a way to pay for spending billions on Instagram and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: they likely bought the stock too.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: anyone have any ideas on how to get the blowtorch app to wokr properly? The touch screen bottons wont work for me. ive uninstalled and reinstalled the program, and also restared my phone.  my phone is not having any trouble with the touch screen when using any other app.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: make it so that it isn't full screen, type .togglefullscreen
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: anyone usin the broadcast bast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Me!
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: In that I use basts and they are required...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: what's the point of broadcasting
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: i loaded the plugins and when i level and such they dont seem to do anything
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I know where I"m at
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: it doesnt give me my time to level and and such
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: did you download the statmon plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: no, just the broadcasts whens..
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: the statmon puts everything into a window and you can see all your kill stats
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: ok, i seen the ones that put the info in group tell and such and thought it was the broadcast plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: if you click on the wiki tab it should tell you what each plugin does?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and look at the screen shot u can see what the stats windows looks like
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: ok, i will play around with it some more and see what happens
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: load StatDB, StatMonitor and miniwin_stats to get the stuff you are looking for
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imon Tech: is there some command that sets your automap info to always be the same size, for capturing purposes?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes, umm, shortmap, I think.  It's found in the CONFIG ALL list, if I recall.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: automap is always the same size
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: also, check out map tags
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imon Tech: cool thanks:)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shortmap makes it not always the same size :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imon Tech: shortmap it was, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Google's search altogrithm is really weird sometimes. If you search for "sequel", Google will also search for the number 2 (I can tell because every single "2" in the little blurbs for the hits is bolded).
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, is not "MovieTite 2" a sequel?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MovieTitle*
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Except sequels can be 3's, 4's, 5's, etc., and those aren't bolded.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can put double quotes around the word, and it will only search for that exact word
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://www.powersearchingwithgoogle.com/course/ps/assets/PowerSearchingQuickReference.pdf
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Good reference. Take the Advanced Class, too. Get a certificate.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... that helped. Putting quotes around "sequel" eliminated the 2's.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "plus (+): Does not mean and, nor does it force 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "plus (+): Does not mean and, nor does it force inclusion of a word. Google can search for certain plus signs after a word (e.x., C++ and Google+). A plus sign before a search term, used as an operator, looks for a Google+ Page by that name. "
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did not know that.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i wish google supported regex or something :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well I did :P. I think Google USED to use the "+" thingie way back when they first started (because that's how all search engines operated), but they dropped it years ago.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think google supports + anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Leinei: They do, but to find google+ pages, as I just pointed out.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That was from the latest Power Searching with Google course.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: course, heh
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's cool is the "undocumented" AROUND search parameter.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: huh, hadn't tried it recently, since it would tell me "don't use + anymore, use quotes".
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's an actual course, Santher. You get a certificate and everything. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: is AROUND the same as NEAR?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know. But you do "searchtearm AROUND(#) othersearchtearm"
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Where # is the distance away from the first search term.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so that's like 5 minute course?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, no, Santher.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can buy whole books in the bookstore dedicated to searching on google.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: This is a free course, for that matter. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://www.powersearchingwithgoogle.com/
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i just tell people to ask it questions like you would ask a person...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Two week course, in fact.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how do i... etc
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, but there's so much more to it to find the exact results you need. Very useful in my job, actually.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i guess if you want to skip a step
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and don't wanna load yahoo answers :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really "skip a step" at all.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My job usually requires specific research for clients. Finding serial numbers for Beechcraft Staggerwing Models, for instance.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: shrug i've never had a problem with google
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Neither have I.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But if it cuts down my searching from 20 minutes to 5 minutes, I'm happy.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i usually just go to dogpile if it takes that long\
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: google was built around being easy... if i have to learn special junk it's missing the point imo
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google was built around being both easy and powerful...easy doesn't need special terms, but powerful always will
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i have the power!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just like MUSH is built on being "easy", but if you want it to be "powerful", you need to know special syntax.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: gawd you mean i need scripts for google now?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't need scripts for google, but if you want to get the best answer without all the crap in between... :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Book of Etzli's head.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i guess they ditched the easy way of doing that
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What I wanna know is why they adjusted their spell check filter. You used to be able to mangle a search term pretty badly and Google would be pretty good at correct you with its "Did you mean" suggestions. Now, it's like if you're more than two characters off, Google just won't be of any help at all (as in NO suggestions).
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Summoner Yuna.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Friend of mine had difficulty with "plagiarism" the other night.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: personally i like "advanced search" links
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: perhaps the amount of 'searchable' things became so great, that google can no longer give you an accurate search
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You mean overnight?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's why you learn to narrow it down.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: who uses google that much?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because the change pretty much happened overnight.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Narrow it down by time frame, location, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Quelz: I do.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I like to Google new words all the time. I read a lot and sometimes I'll run into a word I don't know. I'll Google that *manure*.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's a great song... Google that *Manure* yo. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: sometimes i use google for *poo*
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yuna: the change in order to keep up would've happened overnight...just the reason for its necessity didn't
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, if it's a word I don't know, I get Melvin on the job.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Melvin]: manure (noun) : Material, especially barnyard or stable dung, often with discarded animal bedding, used to fertilize soil.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Book of Etzli's head.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sometimes, it'll be a word I heard instead of read, so I might mangle the spelling pretty badly.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: bing?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Still makes no sense that Google just straight up won't give you any suggestions nowadays if you mangle a search too badly.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bing works better for solving ms related problems :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's probably that speed search crap
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yuna: It still does, for the most part. My "plagiarism" example, I just did "plagurusm", and it said, "Showing results for plagiarism" :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: they had to limit suggestions so it didn't cripple there end
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google still gives me suggestions
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: My mom's one of those bad Internet surfers who accidentally installs a lot of add-ons. She's set Bing to her default search engine. It's horrible. I always struggle to manually have to enter Google into the search field instead of just entering my search term into the address field (Chrome user).
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can change that, you know.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I didn't say Google no longer gives suggestions. Just that if you're just a touch too off, it won't.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But she keeps changing it back!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: struggle?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, because plagurusm is so close... :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (Without meaning to)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i have more issues disabling google garbage
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hell, even palagirism brought up plagiarism.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: plagpurusm = Google will search for plagiarism. plagwurusm = Google will search for plagiarism. plagpurusm = no hits, but Google will SUGGEST you search for plagiarism.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm sure if I go through enough mangling, Google will just straight up not suggest anything.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, but if you're mangling it that bad, then you obviously misheard the word or misread it.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Google's not a full-blown mind reader.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently, Google is racist towards Swedes. plagäurusm didn't even bring up a suggestion.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: plagiärism likewise brings up no hits and no suggestions.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: try using a search engine specifically geared toward words...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So it's just a question of finding the "right" letter to mispell in the right spot.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Additinally, you can try speaking your word. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah you know there's more search engines than just google and bing right?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, Google suggested I meant "Additionally, you can try speaking your word. ;)"
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm not saying they're evil for doing this. I'm just questioning why they needed to tighten their parameters so much that they'll just straight up not give you any suggestions if you're too "off" now.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: but theres only one good search engine. google
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What the... Altavista still exists?!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yuna my guess would be server performance
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yuna: Adding in special characters isn't them tightening up their parameters. It's them thinking, "who in their right mind would use a non-English character on an English version of the site?"
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: goggle prides itself on having the fastest servers on the internet
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Except last year, plagiärism would've searched for plagiarism. That's just me finding the quickest way to "beat" their new system.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd hope that yuna was using google.se
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or rather, a non-English character in an English word. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I didn't feel like going through all mispellings of plagiarism using only English characters to find one without an ä.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Using plagiärism on google.se didn't bring up suggestions, but showed plagiarism in bold. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's extremely weird, because: https://www.google.se/search?q=plagurusm&oq=plagurusm&aqs=chrome.0.57l2j60j5j60l2.1577&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=serp&tok=Xp-VvIFHX-ZkFu1DsBxnHQ&pq=plagiarism&cp=6&gs_id=9&xhr=t&q=plagi%C3%A4rism&pf=p&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&oq=plagi%C3%A4rism&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=5096cd71f09fc1eb&biw=1194&bih=894
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: pretty much the only reason intel and amd still make a single core cpu is because google refuses to buy dual cores
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's me. On Google.se. Getting nothing on plagiarism when Googling "plagiärism".
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: this is an aggravating discussion
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: https://www.google.se/#hl=sv&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=plagi%C3%A4rism&oq=plagi%C3%A4rism&gs_l=hp.3...1253.1253.0.2181.1.1.0.0.0.0.79.79.1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.zI8o_Fj0H1Q&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1357700187,d.cGE&fp=e157e8dfb2e39304&biw=1366&bih=653
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's my end, Yuna.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: my eyes!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's a.. very strange search.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: my phone!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Especially since when I deleted the R and then re-added it, it went back to no hits, no suggestions.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Guess Google hates you.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Deleting r and putting it back in worked for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I got the same results.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Guess Google works differently depending on where your IP is from, even if you're using a regional search engine.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ixquick ftw
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And the mystery that is Google lives on.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lets you use google without the need for a google account
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Pretty sure you don't need a Google account to use Google...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By the way, what do you all think about Zuckerberg's bold move to allow you to send a message directly to his inbox for $100.00?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you do if you want to turn the search filter off normally
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You don't.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You just have to reset it each time.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: turnsafesearchoff works too :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you talking about santher?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: last time i tried to turn off safe search in google settings it said i needed an account
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: safesearch has been defaulting to off for me for the past week or two, and it has never required any login to turn it off
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not once has it told me that, ever
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I likes me a non-safe search
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how do i even turn it off these days?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same way as ever, just use the drop-down or go to settings
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: doesn't want to let me change it...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the gears, go to search settings
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: did that
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the "filter explicit results" checkbox?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: let me try in IE
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: there's no checkbox on my page
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah same in IE... i can see the 3 options but no way to change them
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 options? I only have "filter explicit results" related to safesearch...I've just done it in chrome and IE
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Go to Images then, see if the safe search box is there.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'll try signing in...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not accessing it from a Korean IP, are ya?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I see the settings on my end. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: signing in didn't work either...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like someone's locked you out :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not on an institution's computer are ya?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: image paged worked
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and no
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google plays very well with content filters
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: probablt just my privacy settings
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you set them high google stop working
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i have mine on medium high
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm at medium
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods that's probably it then
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: can anyone teach me how to setup triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well, first you'll need to tell us which client you're using.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: im getting tired of getting disarmed and not noticing
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: im using mushclient on the PC
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #trigger {string} {what you do}
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/triggers.htm
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: thanks, [string] being the text that comes up on screen to trigger the... trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: would this work... "trigger 'sends your * flying' 'take *'" would that work?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Using Mush? finger bast, get the rewielder
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: . * is a wildcard for matching, it won't sub the second * for the string.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh, is there any way to copy a string?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You'd use.. %1 for the first * I believe
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm a bit shakey on mush though. still in zmud land
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so it'd be like sends * flying! then get %1
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: then have another trigger to take your weapon again
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nar.. it'd all be one trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trigger on the disarm, then get %1, wield %1
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: and is there a way to remove triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. easily
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: how so
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: highlight and click the remove button.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ok so im practicing with a trigger that just picks up whatever i drop, (trigger = 'You drop *' send = 'get %1') but when i drop something it includes a fullstop as part of the objects name
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: is there anyway of removing the end character from the string
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: trigger 'You drop *.'
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran hugs Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: it still says that i dont see that here
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you added the . to the trigger text?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Do you have echocom on? That will help you debug the problem
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The short desc of an item need not be keywords of an item
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You might be using multiple keywords in an incorrect way.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: like im dropping a pair of thief leggins and it says, you don't see a pair of thief leggings here.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can you "get thief leggings" and have it work?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So "a big red sword" will not be correct to send "get a big red sword" - the keyword may well only be 'sword'
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not all items can be referred to that way
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh dammit
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This is why bast's rewielder is so powerful - it runs on id numbers linked to short descs, no need to worry about keywords
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak... Are the id numbers explosed when you're disarmed? Or does it store them somewhere beforehand
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They are recorded by Bast through the use of invmon et al
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: gotcha.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: invmon or invnom
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: invmon
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: help invmon
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Don't go there... a good 4 or 5 levels above where you're at
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.. presumable disarm triggers invmon action 1
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: but action 1 refers to if it was worn
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: but i guess wielding is the same
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ignore previous comment
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That'd be my guess. But yeah, Like Vak says, its quite a jump from just making a trigger, to making one with some logic and invmon.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: lol yea, how do you get triggers to have  two outputs its just the semicolon right/
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: right*
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: so how do i put invmon action 1 in a trigger output
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you not read what was said? You are not at a level where you can do that, stop before you get frustrated with it all.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You would have to use a scripting language, including regex, to pull the required data and act upon it - just use Bast's ready made solution
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: yea but i learn from messing around with stuff. i dont mind if it doesnt work. but i will probably ask too many questions and piss everyone off, so where can i find bast's thingie
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In his boxers, I'd wager.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: autowielder
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: finger bast, the www link is there
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you want to learn, start here: http://mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=6030
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And here: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaTutorial
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ok something simple then, how do i make it change the color of text that says i got disarmed
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Eat the text, and regurgitate it - will require scripting again, via the world.ColourNote function
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Please, please start with the tutorials?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: actually ill just make it send myself a tell. simple and will come up after the fight. Thank you for your time. Good night everyone.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: easiest thing is just to make a trigger and a gt with all caps that you're disarmed if you miss it
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: or a big fat echo
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: well the EASIEST thing is probably just to watch for it and catch it when it happens... or just let it go =p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: lol thanks guise
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nav to bast's page, download, add plugin, fin. Perfect solution to all your ills
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Did anyone just suggest buying some bracers yet? But seriously, go read tutorials then play around, then read some more, then get stumped and come back with questions.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: its all good guys, ive just made it send me a tell when i get disarmed. then after the fight  YOU HAVE BEEN DISARMED!!!  will come up
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: what would the line be to trigger when a gq starts?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages#G
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Any PHP SoapClient guru's around?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So it's reading in the WSDL, but I'm thinking the WSDL isn't pointing correctly (even though it appears to be)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agilulf Tech: if I wanted to make an trigger  in MUSHclient for being disarmed will * DISARMS you and sends your * flying! work?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: But you can't wield %2, you'll have to keep track of your current weapon in a variable
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agilulf Tech: For now It's be get all, wield dagger
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Due to the fact you can't wield 'axe of aardwolf' or anything that's not just called axe or something.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agilulf Tech: Just wanted to make sure the asterix was the wildcard, not reall good at this
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I made an alias called setweap * that does SetVariable('pweapon', "%1"), then in rearm triggers you'd do: weapon=GetVariable('pweapon') Execute("get "..weapon.."
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I made an alias called setweap * that does SetVariable('pweapon', "%1"), then in rearm triggers you'd do: weapon=GetVariable('pweapon') Execute("get "..weapon..";wear "..weapon)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: forgot to double my semicolons :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agilulf Tech: That seems a bit complicated for me but thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's more of a preference thing. I don't want to pick up all the trash in-room when I get my weapon back.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You'll also need to add a second trigger for aard weapons, as they don't go in room, they just disarm to your inventory and have a different message.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agilulf Tech: Nod, I understand thanks again
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: okay so i type who and everytime the mud disconnects me, any ideas on why?  I am using the mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: pagesize 400
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Your connection doesn't like to be spammed with 300 lines of input.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's just too much for the buffer/you connection to handle. If you set a pagesize, the mud will paginate it to save you the trouble.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whatever you do, do not type 'note list' on Ideas board.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or slist
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: slist works fine
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, but pagesize 400 is too big... considering there's not that many people online.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: slist doesn't disconnect you but who does?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: how do i change it
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: pagesize 200
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: just type that and hit enter
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: thanks guys that worked
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i get the bast eqdg window to open again, its not showing anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: eq db*
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: anyone migrate to windows 8? like it?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: i configured a windows 8 pc the other day, seemed cool.  i would upgrade if given the option.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I have windows 8 on my laptop and am considering installing ubuntu on it.. I am not a huge fan of the OS.  No real reason why, just doesnt fit with me. 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: I like opensuse.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I've never installed linux, or really played around with it.  I went to this beginner to liinux faq.  #1 was .. If you have to ask what distro you need, install ubuntu.  
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Opensuse isn't so bad for beginners. Easy to install.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Backtrack is fun to mess around with as well.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would just do ubuntu and see if you like it. it is the most user friendly
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tofting Tech: -12
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: finger tofting
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well i outed myself there didn't i
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SuperJayT snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tofting Tech: go for it!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: can anyone confirm that mush works on win8?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Quadrupus: It will not with RT since it does not run legacy programs.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: but desktop is ok?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've heard people mention that they use it on 8
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and who cares about rt? there are  maybe 10 people using it
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's RT?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: arm version of windows 8
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that means it won't run x86 programs
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: GFs old Emachine... went on stand by mode.. doesnt seem to respond. Besides hard booting it, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't really do anything if it's not going to respond.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hardboot it, and maybe either in bios or in windows control panel turn off/adjust the powersaving stuff.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: hard boot and shut sleep mode or standby mode off.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: cool tks
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: sounds like what my computer was doing when it's power supply was shot -- it would go into power saver and not come out.. sometimes it would have trouble booting but was fine if it was able to fully boot (but failed to fully boot often)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: Anyone using Aardmush.  is it possible to get the stats window to show at a more horizontal view insead of the verticle way it's initially setup?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Right click and look in the menus.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: Thanks..I'm a dork.  Gotta remember how much time and thought went into setting this thing up. I appreciate it.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Ok, in aard mushclient, what is the syntax to be used to allow an alias to accept an argument (in this case, a target)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: *
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: cool. didn't know that was possible
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Errrrrr, dont believe that works.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: use * in the alias, refer to the variable as %1, and you can use multiple
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it does, assuming you're not using a regular expression for your alias
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8084
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: +1 brain points to fiendish for pointing me to a place :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: (lua) there's no metamethod for the # operator, is there?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: __len
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ooh, really?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: didn't see that documented anywhere... is that new in 5.2?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: oh, it's only for userdata though, not tables :(
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what are you actually trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: oh, looks like __len for tables was added in 5.2
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i'm still using 5.1 though :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume this is not in aardwolf mushclient, then
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: no, i never said it was
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but what are you actually trying to do
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: might be time to see if i can get 5.2 working in cmud, cause it doesn't look like zugg'll be updating it anytime soon
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: override the # operator on a table
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: is there a handy identify and report to channel script that would total all stats available for mush? 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: override it to do what?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if you want the long answer, i made a wildcards table with a __index metamethod to return zs.param(index) for easier cmud/mush cross-compatibility, but i can't use #wildcards cause it's just an empty table
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mm
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if i drop a lua 5.2 dll into my cmud folder will it just use that, or does it require changes in the source to upgrade?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suggest using the luajit dll instead
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: same question then :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: can i just drop that in? i can't recompile cmud with the new version if that's necessary, obviously
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: luajit has feature parity with 5.2 but is ABI-compatible to lua 5.1
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it may not work to drop in a 5.2 dll, but you can try that too
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i'll try it then
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if a lua dll ships with the cmud install, it might be looking for a specific name
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I use luajit in the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can find daily windows luajit builds here https://dl.dropbox.com/s/evxx7x53z5wpx6b/luajit4win.html
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: oh, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i was just about to ask if there's a dll somewhere instead of needing to compile it myself :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: assuming you could just rename the proper file (likely a bad idea, since there could be updates and reworks in the dll source), it should work.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: isn't lua an MSH-compatible language, though?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: note, I don't know if those builds are done with -DLUAJIT_ENABLE_LUA52COMPAT
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, looks like they are
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, i don't think anything broke
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: print(_VERSION) still shows 5.1, so i'm not sure if it actually did anything :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, that's interesting.  A failed java update...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not a valid action to print the version
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ok, what would you suggest?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\print(jit.version)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, that threw a cmud error :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: without the \\\ of course
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i know what you meant :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what error?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: a standard access violation error message
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: not really specific :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you make sure the dll has the same name as the file you replaced?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: there's an empty function on the call stack, which is strange
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it didn't, but cmud is finding it
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: the call stack gets to lua5.1.dll
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd change the file name just in case
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can also try the build I made for the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ah, changing the file name seems to have fixed it, print(jit.version) works anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if that works then everything else will too
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: and my __len metamethod works :) thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: well this is a novel way to learn sql i guess, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ~ $ sqlite3 -line Aardwolf.db "SELECT uid,name,area,info,notes FROM rooms WHERE area LIKE '%senn%' AND name LIKE '%hut%';"
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i had an idea for a mush plugin but it requires i learn sql, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please don't bot quests
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: no it's not bot related at all
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: more information gathering
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: mmm, does anyone know how to setup bast's broadcast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: how do I get screen to stop jumping 
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: break it's legs...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: also how do I turn off the buttons on the sscreen
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: break em off?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: hmm, not familiar enough with the android client to know
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: ok Ty
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: aard isn't really meant to be played by phone...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's ok if ys just wanna chat or w/e
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's far more playable by phone now than it used to be...and I've set mine up to where I can quest easily
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: I just started tonight
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i couldn't imagine playing a hunter on a phone...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: took me 3 days to write a script to get the whole targetting/shoot/attack thing down
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: I'm a barbarian
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah that'll be easier :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: barely need attack skills
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just wear a shield and pound away on mobs
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: set up some buttons for moving around, opening all doors, and considering all...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and then some for your combat skills like disarm, trip, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: also, a button to quaff heals
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: those will make leveling via phone a lot more painless
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I went to sleep, left my comp open, came back and my cat had messed up a lot of my MUSH settings, including the colors. I have found the MUSH client ansi and custom colours under world configuration, but have not been able to just set my colors back to the way they were before. Anyone know exactly what to do? I hadn't ever messed with the colors previously
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I think the colors were exactly the way the MUD spits it out to me, and now the MUSH is doing something. Don't know how to fix it though
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Does anyone here use Blender to make vids?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: for backing up explored rooms and other settings in mush, any particular file(s) i need to copy or just the whole dir?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would copy the database files for explored rooms. It is Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are using the Aardwolf MUSHclient, then look here: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm and if you are using my stuff, copy all the db files in the logs directory.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: ok, thanks turie
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are using the Aardwolf MUSHclient, then look here: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm and if you are using my stuff, copy all the db files in the logs directory.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are using the Aardwolf MUSHclient, then look here: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm and if you are using my stuff, copy all the db files in the logs directory.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: say what would you do if you were using aardmush or basts stuff?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, sorry about that, stupid up arrow
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: does anyone use the winklewinkle search and destroy script? if so, would I just run it as is? or mix it for my specific CP?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: is there a reason I can't create an alias with multiple commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharking Inicus Tech: in what client?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: on per line, no semicolons
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharking Inicus Tech: you can just hit enter to go to the next line
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: with quotes?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: ohhhh alias blah<enter>cmd1<enter>
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: actually, that doesn't work... enter fires the command :=\  and i cant use quotes
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: what are you trying to do
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: eg, I just want an alias like "south
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: s w
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: You can create an alias that will do that, yeah.  Aard mush client?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: actually i want hold garbage enter second sword (with semicolons in between)
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: use double semicolons, sounds like you are making a mudside alias
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: YES! That's it!  Needed double smicolons, thank yoU!!!!
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: can you make parameter independent aliases in mush, similar to how aliases work in zmud/cmud?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean aliases that will fire with no, some or all the parameters?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't see why not, given the access to regex.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: or more specifically, can you make an alias in which you don't know how many parameters will be passed?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: definitely can do that.  It just means you'll have to do some parsing of the "only" parameter sent.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i know you can make a regex that just captures everything after the alias name, but then i need to parse it out since it's just one parameter... cmud makes it easier :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: i have a question but i think i need someone whos a bit beyond just tech school for this one...(hacker catching) 
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: pst
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I imagine if you're coming to aard for help with a hacker issue you probably have already lost.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: lol these guys arent mudders :) which is why i came to you lol
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Is it worth it to buy cMud? Been using zmud since 98. 
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably not
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Go for mushclient instead. It's GREAT.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Is mushclient great for the features or the plugins available for it for aard?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: compared to zmud, cmud's great too... it's no longer being developed though
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mushclient is better if you don't want to learn how to script or don't want to waste playtime developing scripts of your own.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tons of already-built stuff that is widely shared.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: botting  for the masses
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: mainly the availability of plugins for aard... cmud can do pretty much anything mush can do, but there's less scripts available for download
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: See, here's where I go weak. I used to use zMud when I started, then I quit. When I returned, I used cMud. Then I quit. Now I use mushclient. And it's always been awesome.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts is agreeing with that Seltsimees Dagnir person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Scripting is Lua right in mushclient?  What other language would you say it closest relates to?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mushclient, socialism for scripting
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the only bad thing about Mush is that it makes the script-writer handle every last little detail with no sort of convenience factor to help newbies learn.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a good thing, surely
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Fine grain control is awesome, but quick and dirty is always nice too
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I learned by looking at others simple plugins and reading the Mush forums.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm not even sure what you would want automated with Mushliecnet plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a prime example of what I mean is in setting up a window for your plugin.  In CMud, you have pretty much the entire Mushclient scripting capability for just this one thing encapulated in just 3 commands/tags.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: You know honestly, nothing comes to but I like having to scratch the itch, when the need comes :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Menda could you a write a script, where you could set a variable for compare scores, then any compare score = to or higher than the variable would get a keep flag added to it?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hanslanda - Mini-windows are the only failing of Mushclient scripts, chose another example :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Funny I was thinking about getting cMud and now I'm downloading mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Aww are mini windows a pain in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i refuse to do anything with miniwindows :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: MUSH > cMud
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: that's highly subjective, cera
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I've had success with Bast's miniwindow helper - but like everything mini-window it's quirky.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: neither is a replacement for being able to play
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Just switched a moment ago to Mush, the default aardones are pretty nice out the box
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: "Clients" command is not subjective though :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: quirky? *eyebrow*
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: clients command is a counter :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Miniwindows are great in MUSH...I love being able to have all sorts of information encapsulated in miniwindows around my screen.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it doesn't define "best" clients
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I will not argue with that Celanil.  :)
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: have you ever tried coding them, lulz?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Haha Bast, I meant it to mean it's quirky because mini-windows themselves are!
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: No, but I imagine it's not any manner of cakewalk. Heh.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've broken several keyboards coding in zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: that's what we're talking about :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: clients can report whatever they want.  Aardwolf really has no clue that I use CMud other than the fact I'm too lazy to bother changing my tag to "The only official Lasher-approved bot"
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in that case, then I agree ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what do you mean by quirky?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: The fact that you have to actually do the draws of the windows themselves, and the buttons - blows my mind.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haha, The only official Lasher-approved bot... *rofl*
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Surely it allows for a great deal of personal customization, though?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli points excitedly at Melvin!
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Coding and mudding, thats how you do a Tuesday
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Most generally.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: As well as every other day of the week
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I wish I was proficient in coding :( I'm still learning the basics of python...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: heh, have to save the fun to celebrate clearing Monday
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: can you use python in mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, but it's easier overall to just learn Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: oh really now?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you are making progress in Python, you are pretty much able to handle any language.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Python? Mushclient doesn't make care for snakes.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I'm just starting with Python to learn how to code in general...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: nod, was just curious
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i always forget the list of languages mush supports :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: VBscript, Python, and Lua. I can't remember if there are others.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: there's lots more than that
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: But I know those 3 for sure.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient supports it, but it isn't build in and you have to use wsh, and that can be a pain to get working in wine. Lua is built in.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: javascript
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: love Python but the formatting of your code mattering, thats always made me go...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: no quick and easy option on compiling it for python?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: compiling what for python?  MUSHclient uses the wsh feature of windows for anything but LUA support
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: generally if it's supported by the Microsoft Scripting Host (Microsoft Scripting Server/Service in XP and earlier) you can use it in CMud or Mush.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's something like 25 different languages now or something crazy.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i wish someone would write a set of scripts that will allow ME to wriet scripts as easily as it was to do so in zMud.  :(
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's easier than CMud, IMO. Sure, there's a learning curve, but what in this world doesn't have one?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i have to disagree with that
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: cmud's settings editor is light years ahead of mush's
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's not scripting, that's being a GUI kiddy :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's how newbies learn.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: pfft, do you honestly write plugins in mush's editor, or do you use a text editor with syntax highlighting at the very least?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: text editor, but no syntax highlighting since it is very hard to get an editor to see it as something beside generic xml
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I use VI
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: notepad++ does
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in mush, in the hopes of forcing myself to learn lua, I go all-out and use plain notepad.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: is there a site that has a list of plugins avail for aardwolrd?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, in NP++ you just go Language -> L -> Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: err, aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: is there any plugin that adds tabs for each channel in the comm logs? sometimes i only wanna see a certain channel.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to look through the menu to select your wanted channels.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not yet
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: feel free to make one :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: feel free to make one :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Anyone ever install a Lockpick Interface in there car/truck?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: well i want the option to see them all and then click to see only certain channel, ya know what i mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ahh ok. if i knew how i would.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i could use that as well...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Then make an alias to turn those channels off.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: not grasping my thoughts i dont thing...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: use the history feature
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i want the option to log my comms as they are right now, but also the option to see just a single channel in its own comms.  but ya, o well   thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya :(
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i want 25 year female with rich parents... but some things just don't work out that way :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a lockpick interface is just a lock, isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: a lock with an interface...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: It unlocks the nav/video in your car/truck.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would settle for a 65year old with rich parents
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Globules Tech: I would rather marry one of the rich parents
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: smoking 25yo with rich, dead parents?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you don't marry the women you sleep with? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the rates go up when you do that.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 25 is too young
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: stick with 30+.  That's when the kitty really wants to play and won't take no for an answer.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: thanks for that mental image... :/
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ...are you averse to having hot and experienced women throwing themselves at you?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 30-40 isn't old
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I didn't say old, I said experienced.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no, i'm wondering what else she doesn't say no to
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: old is when the lips hang 2x farther down than the hair
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh cool, we must be talking about android babes.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you know how teenaged boys are?  30yo women get like that, plus the bioclock starts ticking louder in their ears.  Recent research says men peak closer to that point, as well (when I was in school, we were taught we peaked earlier.)
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: recent? i learned that 20 years ago...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: fyi, you mistyped "curse" as "tech"
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This needs to be on gossip or debate.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antmanz Tech: i acedentlly deleted my east action in the top right of my screen is there a way to get it back?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Blowtorch? I think if you hold your finger down it enters button creation mode where you were touching
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antmanz Tech: legened ty
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: Is there any reason my zmud would not be saving the new scripts I import / execute each time I quit?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: they work just fine, but when i quit they apparently dissapear
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is Dell really going to be taken private?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why would anybody pay more for a Dell machine when Lenovo is 20% cheaper, anyway?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lenovo is Chinese, and while their B2B services are exceptional,.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Their b2c is appalling
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: their being dell or lenovo
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shirana Tech: Hello, I'm trying to make the alias shown in help volley, and I'm typing it correct, but the alias is only recognizing volley. It's not executing the shoot commands.  Not sure what I'm missing.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Their being Lenovo
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: lenovo has good b2b??
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sensational
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But you need an account above the $100k annual mark to get the good stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why are they good?  did it come with the ibm biz they bought years ago?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They didn't really 'buy' so much as they ARE IBM's old B2B wing
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it's so good because they know exactly how many competitors they have to beat to win the contracts, and nobody contracts more than 1-2 years
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i bought a lenovo laptop off newegg to keep by my toilet, it doesn't even have a standard layout keyboard.  The shift, alt, and delete keys are all in the wrong positions.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Don't touch Lenovo consumer with a 100ft pole :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like Toshiba
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I use a Toshiba and I can't stand them :(
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: actually it's about time to upgrade, what laptops do you guys keep by your toilets for entertainment?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mine works nicely.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Toshiba, idk, HP and Samsung are winning the quality race atm
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just be aware HP crams bucketloads of bloatware onto their laptops - format and start fresh.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can go e-machine if you just want a cheapy - buy the extended warranty, though
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is why I like Toshiba since the bloatware is not that bad.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Though tbh, Apple is the current laptop king, much as I hate the OS
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can try a hackintosh on a Pro or Air?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: vak why on earth would you ever suggest buyign extended warranty
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's with this new Youtube glitch where videos sometimes randomly re-start from the beginning? Is it due to one of my Chrome extensions or is it an actual YT glitch that was introduced a few months ago due to an update (because it randomly started appearing a few months ago. Really often at first, not as often now).
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nobody seems to know why it's happening or how to stop it from happening, just that it's happening.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Does it happen in safe mode w/ Networking?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: in mushclient, can you do scripting from command line?    eg   /script world.note("Test");
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes. I think standard is \\\script
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: with the scripting prefix, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in aardmush it's \\\ by default, in normal mush you'll need to enable it in preferences
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a way to get a bast miniwin to forcibly come into the foreground?  my miniwin_events window has disappeared on me.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/miniwin_events
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, anyone knows where razer mouse drivers install to?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: how do I set a trigger that picks up my weapon if I am disarmed in a fight?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: anyone know how to open the inventory window for basts eq db
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: New Java, huh? Wonder what 0-day I'm getting with this one...
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 0-day attacks on Java mostly refer to Applets that nobody uses
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And .jsp server applications you grant access to your computer to
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurlia Tech: Hi Tech, I installed the mushclient the other day and I ended up going back to Cmud becouse I had some lag over my remote client. Now I'm getting these brackers infront of alot of my information for exampel {channel ch=newbie}
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurlia Tech: Is that all I need to turn off that the Aardwolf client turned on ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So today I found out about this thing called Eye-Fi
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SDHC cards for cameras and such... with built-in wi-fi
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They cost around 30-40 US
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've been around a while
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Niceish idea Vak, I wonder how practical they are though. It seems like it'd be more useful for a professional - but at the same time - that also seems to be the category of people who would have no interest in such a thing =p
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The thing is 32mm x 24mm x 2mm - how in the world did they fit 16gb of class 16 flash memory plus a wifi connection in there???
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there used to be compactflash cards before SD cards
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (that had networking capability, that is)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Same argument applies I think. I dunno. 
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: CF I can see, the things are 100x as big :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but with card readers built into modern computers, I wouldn't find any need or desire to network the camera directly
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were also a decade older
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, there were CF cards which were literal hard drives (i.e. rotating spindles)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IBM made them, later spun off to hitachi
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: called Microdrives, from everything i saw. Not sure if it was a trademark, or a general term though
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well of COURSE the A Team was stronger!
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis :P
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trademark
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This c16 16gb is $134, I don't really need one, but the technophile in me is screaming to buy it o.0
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Makes sense. Though from what I remember CF and the microdrives are really just 40 pin IDE interface + 4 pin power
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 40 pin ATA interface, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, CF was basically modified IDE, and CF-to-PCMCIA adapters were great and simple at like 10 bucks
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how I dual-booted one of my early laptops
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Neat.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I remmeber there was old adapters that would put 2xCF cards in the mounting of a single 2.5 HD... don't recall if it was raid, or what.. but that was before SSDs became so available
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Theoretical maximum capacity of CF cards is now 144 petabytes... why does anybody know this?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, practical current maximum capacity of CF cards is more like 128GBs cuz nobody's investing in producing them anymore ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sdxc will outstrip current cf speeds, and with no investment new cf speeds seem unlikely
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, CF is like non-SATA IDE...both essentially dead
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: network devices used to use PC Cards as their storage, then they moved to CF...now they're well on their way to moving to SD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait, it's already happened - fastest CF card rate is 90mb/s, fastest SDXC hitting 104
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pretty sure the bottleneck becomes the camera computer at that point
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well,for the eyefi, bottleneck would be write speed, antenna on the device, and Internet access...
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, not talking eye-fi here, just the write speeds for the cards
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not sure any of the current models could saturate a 104 mb/s interface
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: write, read, or interface?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: write, of course - have to get those fps up there :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone around familiar with electrical wiring? I know maybe not the place for this.. but figured worth a shot. Specifically in the US, but I'm sure some of it is a bit universal
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What's your question?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: First things first: touch it without turning the breakers off it not a good idea. No matter how sure you are that particular section isn't live.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my advice is that, if you feel the need to ask on a tech channel on a mud, then buy an electrician
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah yeah, Vak. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: second advice is make sure not to investigate standing in salty water
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It was more, is running 2 seperate circuits within 1 section of conduit generally permitted? I mean it seems it must be - for anything other then 120/220 it'd be silly not to... But I figured there might be some reason
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The amount of times I have heard my stepfather say 'it's fine' ZZZAP 'Motherf*()%^'... pool installer, handles various electrical installs during
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: heat generation -- if you have too many things in one conduit they can get too hot
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Phraeaxes might know, he's a sparky
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Are both lines power? Running power and data in the same conduit obv. a bad idea
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't think heat is likely to be an issue - talking some flourescent lights and a garage door opener =p
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. both power. 2 seperate 120V circuits - one switched, the other not
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what is the ampage of the door opener?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if the wires are getting hot in a conduit, the wire resistances are too high for the current flowing
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not sure off the top of my head. I think it's a smallish one, but thats unlikely to tell you directly. I know they're 15amp circuits
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you were in the UK, doing this work would be illegal
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: taking a leak is illegal in the UK, as is breathing
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, I'm not in the UK, in the US.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: while we on circuits im curious (12v) if batteries tied in a series does it increase amphrs or does it make it 12v x#of batt= n volts?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: in series will increase voltage, van
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 2x12v in series will be 24v.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sure, that's true tigernuts, although urinating is controlled in most countries
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ok so  parralle would just increase amps then ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In paralell will give the same voltage, higher amphrs.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, higher amperage, yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the UK rules might be a BIT tight, but people did keep burning their houses down which is not nice for the firemen, or the people who live next door. 
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: and batt life which design is easier on battery ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Careful with wiring loads in paralell though.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: so wires need to be same length ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Van... you usually have a range of acceptable voltages.... if you try and run them in series vs paralell it is different.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No Van, not neccesarily.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: with batteries in parallel, same voltage and amperes at the appliance, longer duration
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: trying to decide which way to design a battery bank for a 2 kw solar power system
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd go in series for a battery bank
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: DC batteries is not the same as AC from the mains
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: daisy chain that thing
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Will depend a lot on the inverter you're using
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: and 12 volt is fine  but i see some batter mentionings for the series over parralle
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No really, dalo. It'll do best with it linked in series regardless, it just may take longer.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: pure sine 30 amp
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er Cheez.... if the inverter expects say, 24-48 volts, and you wire the batteries in such a way that it is less then 24 or more then 48.... that is likely to be a problem
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what was this for, anyway?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: off grid system
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: post apoc meltdown :P
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: solar or other?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger looks in the mirror, sees his face, and runs away terrified!
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: He said solar, iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ye working up to 13 kw-hrs per day
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: solar panels tend to standardise at 12v, so you're probably making a rod for your own back if you use more
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the 24-48 was just a random range for the purpose of illustrating a point. I don't know what "normal" is for inverters
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this site details the wind turbine route, but has details including links to other literature and wiring diagrams of controllers: http://mdpub.com/Wind_Turbine/
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some of the English are not as smart as the Americans (?) -- and with the higher population densities, the UK government regulations are stricter -- (and the Red-Green Show is Canadian)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: there are inverters that will take 12/24/48 volt
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 12v inverters are common because of their usage with batteries on motorhomes/boats/barges/cars
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: 12 volt batteries are most common and probably cheaper 
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: some of the English are not as smart as some of the Americans would be a better statement
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's fair to say that both countries have more than their fair share of retards, swalec
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nod nod thats where i get most of my inverters :p but they all 20-30 amps
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think willfully ignorant, might be a better measure
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So... any input on the 2 circuits in 1 conduit?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Google says fine under all circumstances bar power<->data (which should be obvious)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. I know power and data are best run perpindicularly, if they need to cross at all
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks Vak
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You'd be amazed how often phone lines get run with power lines. Then people stop and say 'but why is my internet dropping?'
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1st call to this servlet takes 100ms. Second call takes several minutes and blocks access to other servlets in the applications while it's hung. Once it finally responds all other servlets unblock. The servlets are in different classes, they do not rely on shared resources. Glassfish server. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol. I'm not quite that silly. Really - It's more.. I'm going to put up some flourescent shop lights in the garage. And theres a conduit there for the garage door opener, and some other stuff. I either have to cross one over the other - which will look messy, and they'll have to cross multiple times... or combine them in to a single conduit, which will look much neater, and allow me to fix some of the other issues with the run thats there
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thought it might be some form of contention or race condition, but happens regardless of whether synchronised or not
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Check for connections getting left open, combined with maximum connections per user/MAC/ip - could be waiting for timeout on the original
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, maximum http connections, now there's a thought
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now to find it in the configuration
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Now I guess the only question left is 1/2" or 3/4"..
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 3/4"
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: granted that space for the 3/4 isn't an issue. it means you can always add more later
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, can't see anywhere where there is a limit to per user or per ip connections. The only thing vaguely relevent is a Http thread pool size/max/min
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, makes sense from that perspective.. most of the boxes seem to be 1/2" or 3/4" mixed... mostly just wondering which bender I should buy, i don't want to buy multiple if i can avoid it
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: max HTTP connections for the server is 500, HTTP thread pool initially 20, max number 500
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right, but if an old connection has been left open (that first, quick connection), it might have limits to number of connections from the SAME device
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody IE and it's "jumping into quirks mode for random unjustified reasons"
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, figure this out. The exact same web page runs on IE fine on my local glassfish installation, but drops into quirks mode when served from the development webserver
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got to be a crazy IE security thing
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, it screws up locally too. passes w3c html5 validation
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lol, you couldn't make that up. Microsoft's HTML5 checker doesn't work on IE
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, it gets more stupid. The page is rendered in quirks mode. If you view source, copy and paste the entire source to a new page, and view that, it renders correctly
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: man that sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: Can anyone recommend a spellup script for Cmud?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't think there is one, but Atreides' old zmud script should still work if you can find it.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: many of us have incorporated spellup into our larger setups, so it's not really just a spellup script anymore.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the rest of us just use the in-game features.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: here's a really quick and dirty spellup script, though: #trigger {^{affoff}} {spellup}
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what was the command to get a unique id for a new plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sorry, it is under edit
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I've heard performance suffers once hard-drives get more than ~ 75% full...if my HD is partitioned into two, does that apply for each partition or the total? Or am I completely off-base?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depends
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you lose performance due to time required to find free space
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, if you have 2 drives then still one of them will cause losing performance anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Doh! Okay thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH some parts of disk are faster than others, so if you place there some data, those date will be accessed faster
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: alse repairing small partition is faster than bigger one
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH using 2 small partitions you will lose more performance due to fragmentation
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH using single partition you will also lose performance due to various factors
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I use diskeeper for fragmentation
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the ultimate solution is : use SDD instead of HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: How many hands do you have?!
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he's got four, like what's-her-name from Aeon Flux.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe instead of OTOH I should use OTOF (on the other finger)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well there's the whole cost issue in the meantime :)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: not necessarily, trachx.. crappy SDD doesn't outperform decent spinning disk
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or on the other foot.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, for simple home solution ordinary SDD will be faster than HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, much, much smaller
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: quieter too
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and less power reuirement
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though limited lifetime
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather HDD may work forever, SDD will work no more than XXX TB data written
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is that an issue with home use? pagefile and browsing history/cookies will get rewritten quite a bit
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depends, how do you use your drive
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: simply, SDD has limit for cell/block: let's say 1mil writes, and after that that cell/block is no longer programable
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but drive has controller which translates your address 1 sec to drive physical sec - and that is remapped
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, when you do 1 mil writes in sec 1 it doesnt mean those got written to the same physical cell
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in sec I mean sector
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, you can safely assume that if you buy now SDD it should last at least 5 years
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless, you really often write new contents and keep drive filled up to 90%
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, SDD are still quite expensive comparing to HDD, for a price of 256 SDD you can buy 2 enterprise class HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also each of them twice size of that SDD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: what is SDD?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry, SSD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: solid state drive
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I would say, that nowadays I don't see any reason to partition drive other than security reasons
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather safety (there is chance that only one partition will be damaged) and security (guaranted that data will not eat all available space)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but in old days I remember I had drive letter 'F:' on my 8 GB HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have wrvs4400n cisco vpn router? i am having issues with ipsec tunnel not staying up
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: vpn tunnels usually has 2 sides
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you get disconnected after expiring SA lifetime ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya but not every time
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it will stay up for a couple hours and then just go down
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or it will stay up for one cycle and then die
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe lack of traffic causes tunnel to disconnect
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm that is entirely possible
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: strange there is no stay alive or dead peer setting for this router though
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I don't see any option that could do check connectivity or nailed up
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe on the other side is something like that
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod i have those both setup on the firewall at the office
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you do something like 'ping -i5 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' just to make some traffic ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod that was what i was just starting on. make it send a ping every 5 minutes
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sometimes it is nice playing a game where smart people live
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, sometimes MTU may cause problems 
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, for that price you could get Zyxel USG 20W, which seems to have more options than that Linksys
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: haven't read back the whole thread, but usually mtu would cause a connect to entirely not work rather than going up/down (PMTU blackhole)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was some canadian bank that was the best test site for mtu issues a decade or so ago
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I had recently problems related with MTU, those were causing something like that: small amount of data worked - like output of finger , large not - like dmesg 
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though it didn't disconnected tunnel, only caused ssh session to hang
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya this seems to go down and then intial traffic will bring it back up but by that time the end users have given up
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: telling them to try something twice really hasn't been successful
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: keep alive ping may help, especially if this tunnel only sometimes gets disconnected
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya almost done with the batch now
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have access to both devices, you can easily test it - just decrease SA life time
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have already done that and it still didn't seem to be consistent on when it goes down. i can't see what people are doing there though either
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: at least these cisco routers allow me to remotely manage them without dumping their settings like the dlink dir-330 did
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone use the PotionQuaff script Bast has in his scripts?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a command to show all windows (added the miniwin_moonbot) but I cant find the window lol
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The window won't exist until the moonbot has been populated. Stand around outside for a while, it will appear
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone use knowledgesync?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grayghost Tech: anybody using mush here
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nope. Not a one. :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grayghost Tech: oh well:(
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: according to clients, there are 229 uses of mushclient, so ask your question please
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Grayghost: It is called a joke. type clients
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: best to just ask your question.  Lots of us are at least knowledgeable enough to muddle through to the answer, and if not, we can definitely point you to better resources.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie points excitedly at Bast!
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or Fiendish could do it.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: winkle also needs the practice
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: just so you all know, Bast, and his plugins, are awesome ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I can't get some of them to work
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which ones?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: see, hes here to save the day^^ thats y he so awesome ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the regex variables to trigger only go from %0 .. %9  ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ( in muchclient )
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can be named for infinite based on implementation - but for glob, yes, %0-%9
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the answer to your question is no, only having 0-9 would be stupid
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: any suggestions on how to get more?  im trying to do a multiline trgger and i only get the first like 9
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read down to the section on wildcards
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Multiline triggers are usually a bad idea - try using a trigger to enable a second, one line trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient supports up to 999 glob patterns
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i want the info from id... multi-line seemed a good idea at the time
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've never really made a multiline trigger that worked well
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: me neither
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: well so far mine gets all the fields i want, but only the first 9
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I've made one, but the single line trigger set was more elegant
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well use regex
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can name each wildcard
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ya im looking into it
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're all wrong and stupid
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he can use more than 10 wildcards without naming them
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just read the page I posted
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: please dont verbally abuse people on this channel
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yup in doing it now
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: For wildcards above 9 you can use this syntax: kick %<22>
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: note
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: replay
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: write
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: wake
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: lol yesterday I asked if tehre was a way to trifgger an auto pickup when I get disarmed and no one answered I was looking for a note
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what kind of note?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: scuze mt tyoping
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish tjopps.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: I didnt know if a tech may have responded taht way
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: I have a trigger watching for *DISARMS you* that sends a "get all" so at the very least I don't lose my weapon if I flee
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: how does an ignorant nebie such as I set such a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you just make a trigger on the disarm messages.  There's one for gameload, and a different one for aardeq.  Technically there's another for when the aardbracers kick in, but you don't have to worry about that one because you didn't get disarmed.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: I am using MUSHclient, setting it in there.  not sure if there is a way to do so directly in the MUD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: pretend I have no idea about what you just told me, is there a place that explains this?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: I am using mush too
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sure, the helpfiles for your client.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: ok I was not aware my client had help files, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: I assume that code you just posted sets the trigger, i copied it, the help files should tell me where to paste it?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: file import clipboard
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: nevermind , just seen the second post thanks again
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so i hear DELL is likely going to be taken private
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you know what would be funny?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if special committee agrees to sell at 13.50, then lenovo or HPQ overbids since the co. is in play and steals it from Michael
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: should I turn the MUSH mapper on?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: only if you want to use it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I guess I'm looking for a way to help me get back to mobs I've seen before without having to go to google every time
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need mob database then, mapper allows you to return to rooms you were previously to - it just provides speedwalks inside areas and to areas
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, mapper displays nice map
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: So it it just me, but do I need to toss on my coder hat just to make a trigger in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: nah, it's not too bad, Solaar
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: there's a dialog box for it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: look under game>configure>triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: wanted to take mushclient for a spin since the automapper setup is nice compared to my good ole zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the mapper is MUCH nicer. there's a script out there somewhere that lets you do new triggers the way you typed them in in zmud, too...I remember seeing it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: now that would be awesome!  Do you have a vague memory of the name so it can help in the search?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: also, when I switched over...exporting my aliases from Zmud and doing a little bit of search-and-replace on the text file made them ready to import here decently
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: so dont jumpt in all willy nilly is what you're saying =p?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it wasn't bad, actually
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mush isn't that hard to learn... lua compile errors aren't that hard to figure out (fairly helpful error messages)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the regex's are killing me atm tho, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: plus most of us use it here and and already used to it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah yeah i don't use regex...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: I have ALWAYS hated regex
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: (\| Specials   : (?P<special>.+) \|\n){0,1}    lore: the weapon might have a specials line ... or might not. 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: forces 2nd iteration of whole script... sigh
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: there's workarounds... but i'm not good at explaining :P
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I can't remember where they got into my mush from... :/ I have them...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: looks like they may be including them in the newer aardmush world file
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: check shift-ctrl-9 and see if you have an entry for #trigger {*} {*}
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i do
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: r1557
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and here's a link for you if you don't with the code... http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/CommandLineAliasesAndTriggers
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah new one has stuff for adding aliases/trigs z/cmud style :)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yep, useful for those who are coming over from those, though
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i wondered what those were for :P
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So, I bought a remote release for my camera, and while I'm sitting here enchanting I am confusing the **** out of my dog.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: hi, i'm building a small plugin. i have an alias myalias which has a script function called myscript. how to i get my alias options into that function? like when myalias option1, then i need to get that value to my function
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are using the alias entry like 'myalias *' ?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: match="^pkg [0-9]+$"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: script="myfunc"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why don't you add alias in script ?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You aren't capturing anything with that match
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what should the match be. only integer can be specified as option and alias can be matched without option
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: To capture the numbers, you would need something like match="^pkg ([0-9]+)$"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That requires a space after pkg though
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you want to match 'pkg' with no space, you would need match="^pkg ?([0-9]+)$"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think... getting a little late :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx, it was my faulty match. 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: re: regex, .+ matches anything but newline, can i cross newlines with [.\n]+      ?bid 892
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You must use a multiline trigger for that - short answer to that is it's a bad idea
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i am using a mulitiline
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: im experimenting with (\+\-{65,}\+\n\| Stat Mods  \: (?P<statmods>[.\n]+) \|\n\+\-{65,}\+\n){0,1}      on the output of lore weapon
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: omg the arcane magic that is LUA
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: powerful stuff, though
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: putting [[]] around my var fixed hours of frustration
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: Note(string.gsub([[%0]], "\\n", " "))
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i'm still not even sure what it does, but it works
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: humph... mushclient doesnt honor comments in triggers sent to script
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: removing -- x = [[%0]]   removes error
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: any reason why  in configs i check show contents if controll is pressed its not showing me ? ( mush,keypad settings)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vanion: when you click the checkbox to show contents if ctrl held down, does that clear out all the stuff in the keypad settings?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that checkbox is to show an alternate definition for the keypad, it's not to "give me a cheat sheet when I hold down ctrl"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you could have ctrl-8 be open n, and regular 8 be n
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in mush is there a plugin editor more advanced than notepad?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I use notepad++, it's great, free and quick.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thanks mendaloth
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is the command in Aard-MUSH that shows the xterm 256 color chart with xterms.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: color 256
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it's mudside, not mush side
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Color 256 just shows the colors not the xterms.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean. i type it and see xterm color numbers and their ansi equivalent.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmm, how do i write an alias for "MAPPER CEXIT *" to "MC %0"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: having issues with it not saving ; commands
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: use %1
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah, I did that too
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: the issue is it doesn't save stacked command
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ;;
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: "mc get key;open down;down"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: try ;;?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: "mc get key;
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that onyl saves GET key into the mapper exit
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: "mc get key;;open down;;down"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yea, thats the command
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it only saves get key
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: to the mapper cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: send to?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: using execute
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I'll try send to :)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh sorry, im using execute
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmm should be send to
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: has to be to execute.. to get the mapper cexit part to work. Ive never alias'd that
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmm should be send to execute* ya
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah, doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Do them by hand, should be so hard.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: shouldnt*
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I do use alias's for, mapper list *, and mapper area *
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: also, mapper resume
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Well thats always an alternative
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i have proport * * = "mapper portal get %1 %2;;hold %1;;enter;;dualaa;;put %1 %2" send to execute. so should work same for cexits as it does for mapper portals...i dont get why urs isnt working
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Well, try MC *  s;s;s
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it doesnt work :P
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ill try setting it up on mine
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: hi hi, can someone can make pluging to change weapons in MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: hi hi, can someone can make pluging to change weapons in MUSH?, if you can do it and want to sell me, just drop me a tell
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I made one yesterday in cmud.  I couldnt tell you how to do it in mush though.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: shouldnt need a plugin.. I just use a simple alias to change weapons
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: use the weapons id#s, alias them... hit alias.. boom
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i cant figure out that cexit problem...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: was it working for you?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: no wont grab after the ;'s
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah.. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: guess ill just type it out
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: well, I tried, but the variables from items make feel sick
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: W00T
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: promap * * *  =  mapper cexit %1;;%2;;%3
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i used promap, u can use whatever
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and what happens if there is 4 of em for example?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: sent to execute
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: place a semicolon in the last one
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: promap * * * * *  =  mapper cexit %1;;%2;;%3;;%4;;%5
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah, so you have to rewite the alias every time
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: promap foo bar baz;;bazz will work
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: no...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if there is two commands, that command wouldnt work
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that doesnt save into the mapper exits 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmm, welllike i said, im learning...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: which is what we are figuring out :P
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya i dont get how to do it. ill keep wrking on it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: string
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: alias *    command:  do1;do2;do3
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: thats works but only saveds do1 into the mapper cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: F this alias, sorry cant figure it out
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah i wouldnt worry about it :P too much effort
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: might have to use LUA or something
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya, just tryn to learn, cant learn without tryn it. too frustrating while i have company.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: please do note me, if u figure it out tho
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: If im going to write a plugin, what does it mean if there is a .XML file and a .
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: .XML file and .LUA file?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you have a huge amount of lua in the script part of the .xml, or if you have functions you want to use in multiplt plugins, you can use a .lua file to separate them out
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nothing enforceable, file extensions are there to help the user recognize what type of file format the data is expected to be in.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: the .lua file has your script in it, and the xml file is all of the configuration of the plugin such as the aliases triggers, and timers, and where the script file is
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Hmm.  Ok, so I wanted to edit the lua portion I could just go through the Lua file instead of the xML?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: provided the .lua file is in plain-text format and not something encoded into gibberish.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is never a 'need' for a lua file - it is simply a convenience
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ahh.  The reason I ask is im using Visual Studio with the Lua Plugin, but it doesnt copy the syntax coloring over when the XML file is opened.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For example, the mapper has the findpath.lua - this is because the pathfinding code is quite long and complex
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: an example of what gibberish is is to open an .exe file in a text editor.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is because xml syntax and lua syntax are very different
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: hanslanda, lua is interpreted, it need not be compiled to binary
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah but i thought the XML stored the Lua virbatim so technically you could color the syntax inside the XML file?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You probably could, but VS bases its intellisense and colouring on the file extension
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah ok. so would it be a terrible amount of work to tell my plugin to use a lua file? even if the lua is relatively simple?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it is bad practice to mix syntaxes in that manner - you want the xml syntax in an xml file
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yes Haldrik, there is no harm in separating the files
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It will definitely make managing the code easier
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: pull out the lua, edit it, put it back inside the CDATA. Or just reference a separate lua file
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Me I use Notepad++, and just switch contexts as I need to - it defaults to xml the next time I open xml
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah ok, great. I'll go see if i cant find out how to create that refeernce, if not, I'll come see yah :)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Look at how the gmcp mapper plugin does it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Notepad++ users: use sublime! It's better. I switched and stuff has become so much smoother.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: sublime :)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have never run into a single issue with N++, what benefit do I get from Sublime?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah.. I use Notepad++ a lot too.  I was hoping that this visual studio would contain a lot of lua commands if i had any code errors
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The only thing I miss is the epic scintilla/scite rect-selection
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The code completion is much better than anything I've ever seen in N++
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't use code completion in N++ - for that I use either Eclipse or VS
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: is that where the menu pops up as you're typing?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: a function or something?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: yeah, in VS it's intellisense
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And the settings are in JSON, much easier than a dialog box
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah ok cool. 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in mush can i make an alias call an lua function?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: in the send to box
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: like this? AddAlias("portal_alias", "portal", "", alias_flag.Enabled, "execPortal") where execPortal is the function name in a script?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: SetKax, not sure of the syntax of AddAlias. You may want to look on Nick Gammon's site for more info.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Zetkax*, sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yea i thought he was talking about the UI alias
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: is the function returning a value or executing commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i want the lua function to do something like hold $portal, enter, hold $default-hold-item
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Zetkax, why arent you using the standard client alias for that?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there a way to set mush to not connect automatically?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: or cexit connects
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: cexit commands
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: does mush have some function to return the name of the current user?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is it please?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: User? Or your character name? Character name is within the MUD.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And it's gmcp module char.base.name.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for me it would be "Zetkax"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thanks etzli, ill try to figure out how to access that from lua
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: call the gmcp handler, then you'd just reference it as a variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Go through the health plugins and learn how to access the gmcp handler, if you need to.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What might cause my Windows XP to all of a sudden want to re-authorize? I'm getting a weird error upon login and then it keeps restarting, giving error, etc. ... Havent changed any hardware
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: what does the weird error say?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well googling now (on my mac) ... Lsass.exe status code 0 under NT Authority\System error
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: corrupt filesystem
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: how long has it been since you installed xp on there? and how long has it been since you checked the hard drive thoroughly.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Had XP for about 3 years on it...think I reauthorized it about 8 months ago when I got a new video card...I use Diskeeper so I haven't done a full check in about that time
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: just run chkdsk c: /f, and reboot... it's a no brainer and fixes 70% of random problems
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Noticed it slowing down swignifcantly a few days ago
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: either you have a virus, or you have bad sectors.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: just my hunch
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: filesystem corruption isnt always caused by bad sectors
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: esp on laptops
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: running a good virus scan and a disk check would be a good start, as those are two likely causes
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: It's a desktop ... can't even get into desktop, so guess I'll have to do safe mode
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: malwrebytes
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: malwarebytes*
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: that or go right to combofix, but dont do that yet
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: please
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: safe mode, command prompt only
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: beyond that, it could be mobo/processor/ram going bad, but that's a later set of steps
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: start with the simpler and more likely causes for now
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Trying last known good configuration..(fingers xxxed)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: that hardly ever works
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: getting error message "C:\MUSHclient\lua\gmcphelper.lua:18: nil parent passed to get_gmcp" I call  gmcpval("char.base.name") - any help please?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: *after I call*
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: did you try restart ?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: restart the gmcp thing?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: char.base.name  without quotes ?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: [string "Script file"]:3: attempt to index global 'char' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: examples use quotes, prior to the gmcpval() call I also call require "gmcphelper"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: have you read http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: aliens, i have read that page - im doing something similar to the example local maxhp = gmcpval("maxstats.maxhp") but instead of doing that in a plugin im doing that call in a script
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: aren't script / plugins virtually identical? at least command wise?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: im getting the impression that GMCP_handler.xml (which is running) may be caching the gmcp data in some LUA variables .. looking
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: well  \\\require "gmcphelper";gmcpval("exits.n")     doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: If you have mushclient you should open the plugin for the stats window
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that will have the variables for the HP
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: aard mushclient i mean
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: or the health bars, im gunna check it out
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: local defaultShowBar = {Health={"Health:",true,"Health:",0x00ff00,0x004400}, Mana={"Mana  :",true,"Mana:",0xff5500,0x442200}, Moves={"Moves :",true,"Moves:",0x00ffff,0x004444}, TNL={"TNL   :",true,"TNL:",0xffffff,0x444444}, Enemy={"Enemy :",true,"Enemy:",0x0000ff,0x000044}, Align={"Align :",true, "Alignment:",0x0000ff,0x00ffff}}
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: try those hex values
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: well, lua/gmcphelper.lua:18:   assert (parent, "nil parent passed to get_gmcp")
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ooo i found some values
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: local tnl = gmcpval("status.tnl") or ""
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: DoNextSimpleBar("Health", gmcpval("vitals.hp") or "", gmcpval("maxstats.maxhp") or "")
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmm doesn't look like you can access the gmpc values from an alias/script
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i replaced gmcpval("char.base.name") with CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264", "gmcpval", "char.base.name") - no error but wrong answer
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh I see...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: if you look at the aard_health_bars_gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: line 567 - 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: 467 - 498
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it has the GMPC hadnler 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: guess u need that 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I feel like you could edit some of those to set in game variables...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: but that might bog down the client if it was setting UI variables every instant
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: the way i read that function is that it becomes aware of changes to char.base/char.vitals/etc. and then calls the plugin to get the actual values its interested in - i dont need to watch for changes, i just want to read the current value of char.base.name
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah, no idea
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i think that call plugin returns two values
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yea got it - this works - 'res, mCharName = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264", "gmcpval", "char.base.name")'
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: what does that call?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: or return?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for you it would return "Haldrik"
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh. nice
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: same for hp i assume?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not sure why gmcphelper does not work though
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that gives it the short values?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: which command are you using to test it? print?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yup there we go
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah neat
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: print (char.vitals)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: sends hp/mana/moves
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: vitals.hp does not work however
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: kinda handy:   \\\for k, v in pairs (GetPluginList()) do Note (v, " = ", GetPluginInfo(v, 1)) end
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: whats that do alien?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: list plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: \\\ means execute from commandline
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: try it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ahh very nice
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone familiar with the Lenovo/IBM docks? Just curious if the models that say they fit the T61 - fit all T61s... even ones from several years ago. some of them say compatability T61 15.4" All.. but.. not sure how inclusive "all" really is
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: anyone suggest a good free web host ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Good + free doesn't exist.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: least crap free web host ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Have you looked in to google sites?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: in mushclient aliases is there a way I can make it wait for one second?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: does mush require a newline for it to match a trigger that matches that line?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: DoAfter (seconds, "mudcommand")
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it's nice to use $ with regex tho
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: learn lpeg, lots nicer than regex :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ^Tech\: it's nice to use \$ with regex tho$
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i can think of other things to do with $ :P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: what supports lpeg, and why should I care?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: my thoughts exactly vak
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's "*snicker vakieh" in aard talk :P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: lpeg is supported by lua, so it works in MUSH. There is a mini-tutorial for it. Though ti doesn't do it justice
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens smirks at Santher's saying.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: you create context free grammars with lpeg.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: everything supports regexp, so it's good to know
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: so lpeg is a niche parser in a niche language ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: no, you write parsers in lpeg.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: custom parsers using context free grammars
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_lpeg
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: there is an example of usage but I can't find it atm
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sounds very similar to arguments for Lisp :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nobody in their right mind uses Lisp
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~roberto/lpeg/
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: here is may parser for consider using lpeg: http://pastebin.com/NpCSbjfp
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Your varname style is appalling...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: g, c, Cc, Cf, Cg, Ct, P?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: they correspond to the lpeg function names. rather than typing lpeg.C , just map it to C
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then lpeg's varname style is appalling - either way, you don't name a variable Cc
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless it's part of an email...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: besides, that was my first attempt :>
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That said, the whole of what you have there could be 1 line of regex.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: well, you can send an e-mail to the Lua people, give them some pointers on style.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They won't listen. And it costs them bigtime in industry - there is a reason Python is winning all the awards and being used in all the applications, where Lua is the Gamer's Language
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: and you are right, I don't need a variable Cc, I just find it convenient to know the Cc stands for lpeg.Cc
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: I probably could have come up with some poetic name for it :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mapping is fine - but for lpeg to name a variable or method Cc is just ridiculous
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: even so, it works quite well.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: lpeg is not for the casual programmer, lua itself can handle that. If you want to write parsers, though, I'll back lpeg against anything you can come up with python. Not saying that it won't work in python, I am saying that you will do more work to get the same thing done.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: lpeg is not a competitor with python, it is a competitor with regex
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And Lisp. It might beat Lisp, but that is of no real consequence
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Context free just doesn't work in the real world of programming. All the academics rave over the Next Big Thing, industry takes one look and leaves it behind.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: that is true, though there is an lpeg.re already, which is a regex equivalent written in lpeg. My application for the consider is a good example, to get the auras extracted from the text of the consider is no easy task in regex. It's a breeze in lpeg.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who says it isn't easy in regex?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: it isn't easy. Just give me the regex  for (W) you would stump mob in to the ground - in an easy regex expression.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: notice the easy lpeg expression, so that's the base for comparison 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ^(.+) you would stomp .+ into the ground.$
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that gets you the aura, easily
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: good :) Now (Angry)(I)(H)(T)(W) d
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: good :) Now (Angry)(I)(H)(T)(W) you would stump mob into the ground - using the same expression.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: and you want to extract the flags, too. ^(.+) would need reparsing.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't understand, you still get all the flags
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: you get all the flags, but not the individual flags
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: and what if you have long flags off? (Angry)(Invicible)(Hidden)(Translucent)(White Aura) you would stump mob into the ground
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: it doesn't matter to me, flags, no flags, shortflags, no shortflags one parse line
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (\(.\))?  Repeated as many times as there are possible flags will fill whether short or long flags
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then you would use (either|or) syntax to grab out each possible consider output
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Some 'short' flags aren't actually shortened
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: E.g. angry.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait, (\(.+\))?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: sounds good to me. you capture the flags in (\(.\))? and then re-parse it to extract the flags?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need to reparse. Capture group 1 through x will hold all the flags
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: l
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav winces slightly as Mokg pins V2 Order Of The Bots to his chest.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: which one has the invis flag tho ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fill a lookup table or dictionary with the result, can check whether in the lookup or not
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: slow
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: sounds heroic :) but this: lpeg.match(Ct(Cg(Cf(g, fold), "flags")), text) does it without need for knowing how many capture groups I have, the fold function returns a bit map of the flags, whatever they are. I suppose you could call that a capture group, but I didn't use any captures in this grammar :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: or if you insist, all the Cx functions are captures :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that looks a lot more complicated
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: it is a bit more complicated until you get the feel for it, the it just pours out the same way someone used to regex pours out regex.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: using it as regex is not what it was intended for but it works just as well for it. As I said, there is a lpeg.re that does work similar to regex. MUSH documents it with an example. I just can't seem to locate it now.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: here it is: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8683
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: is you've downloaded Lua 5.4.1 you have lpeg already.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I wasn't aware Lua was already at 5.4.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: 5.1.4
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if i get mush to use script 1.lua and i want to execute another lua script called 2.lua what command do i use? having problems with both require and dofile
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: nbmsg
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: you can repeat requires, the require function checks to see if the module you specified has been loaded already, and if so ignores the request. You can do ad many dofiles as you want, just as long as you do them before you call the code :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: you can also use requires to load code, just have the file in the cpath, then require("functionname") in file functionname.lua
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i have made my own subdirectory and its not working because it cant find the file - if the directory is x do i type requires "x/2.lua"?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone familiar with the Lenovo/IBM docks? Just curious if the models that say they fit the T61 - fit all T61s... even ones from several years ago. some of them say compatability T61 15.4" All.. but.. not sure how inclusive "all" really is
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: remember, that if you do a dofile lua must be able to find the file, if you are not sure that it will be able to, specify a full path name.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thanks, ill try full path name for now
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: put the path to the subdirectory in the cpath system variable
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: LUA_PATH = ;;C:\Program Files (x86)\Lua\5.1\lua\?.luac;<pathname_to_your_directory>\?.lua
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: that's an example, you can add more  stuff. Should add C:\Program Files (x86)\Lua\5.1\lua\?.lua, for instance
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: not the cpath like I said, I was wrong.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i got it to work by putting the full path in 1.lua - it reads 2.lua
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: that's good, that will always work. The advantage of putting your subdirectory in the lua_path is that you just add scripts to it and you will always find it without even having to specify a path.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: if you have your subdirectory in the lua_path, you can also do a require(<module>) instead of a dofile
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres a particular wireless bridge I was looking at - the ENS200. It boasts 802.11N, with up to 150mbps. However it only has a 10/100 network port.. While I'm sure theres going to be a chunk of overhead lost in the wireless, it seems a bit odd to omit the gigabit ethernet port, no? 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: 150Mbps is 75up 75 down, wired is still faster...and that's a low-end router these days for Wifi speed, so it's not surprising that it skimps on the gigabit port too
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: is it possible to alias multi commands in 1 alias?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Outdoor wireless bridge, Lac. 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: can serve as a router/ap as well, but not its intended purpose
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I guess that makes sense. 150mbps half duplex vs 100mbps full duplex, less losses for distance/signal strength/wireless overhead
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and its wired port is sufficient to handle all the potential ap bandwidth, so they didn't bother with better
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: an N-300 or N-600 would likely have gigabit wired
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. I guess was my misunderstanding. I was thinking of 150mbps as 150 mbps.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, 150 on wireless is split 50/50
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Guessing they're in quite a bit higher price bracket then the ENS200 though.. but i shall investigate
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i read the help file but doesnt seem to be working which makes me wonder if its still possible
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wait. Were those seperate products? or were you talking about different wireless speeds
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chronic.. are you using mushclient? or similar mud client.. you have to escape the semicolons. in mush you use ;
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chronic.. are you using mushclient? or similar mud client.. you have to escape the semicolons. in mush you use ;; instead of ;
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so alias command1;;command2;;command3
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i am using Fmud currently as it is not my pc
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or rather alias <aliasname> command1;;command2;;command3
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: something with different wireless speeds, Daloran--probably a different product in this case
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gotcha. Brain jammed in to neutral there.. I was thinking you meant N300 and N600 as product names
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chronic.. I'd imagine the same will work. 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If not, it will be the same problem likely - but different character to escape it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: ok cause it seemed to alias the first but run 2nd as a command itself
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: hmmm ok that didnt work
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: a semi colon is used to put multiple commands on one line in a lot of clients, chronic. So whats happening is it sees alias <name>;other stuff, and does the other stuff second, after first creating the alias
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I'd see what you can find in a 300-speed router if budget is a concern--that won't be as easily bogged down if you get a laptop and an iPhone on it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might try... alias <aliasname> command1\;command2
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: yea just tried double semi and it just tried to do a empty command followed by the 2nd one i was wanting set up
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm.. Maybe Lac. Not my money, so, no biggie. Have 2 houses that are 1 lot apart, was just trying to get a bridge between them some how. Short of convincing the homeowner next door to let us trench their yard, just need something to connect the two thats out door rated, and supports PoE.. which.. i think will be everything 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it IS alias test where;
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: double semis
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: hmm?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lacri: in fmud? 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't know if ; is also the escape character in fmud, but it seems to not be
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: mudside
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's the client eating the semis though, lac
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not sure the escape char in fmud is, though
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: im trying to set up one to run both cskills, it sets the first but actually runs the 2nd, added double semi also...set the first one, ran a blank command then ran the 2nd skill as a command
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: even added \ as dal mentioned, same thing
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the solution is going to be some variation on changing that character... just need to figure out which the right one is
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Loading up fmud to check
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: also cant remember how to add semi to chat w/o it runnin command
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... I wonder if maybe theres not one? It seems rediculous.. but doesn't seem to be any of the standard ones
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bluntman & Chronic \
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bluntman & Chronic :\
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: dang, kinda need some of these alias' to take the strain off my hand
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, it's an issue with fmud, Chronic... if you use raw telnet or a different client, you can make the aliases, and then use them from within fmud..
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can do a lot of shortening up by using ingame aliases...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lac, the issue is he's trying to run 2 commands with 1 alias - and fmud keeps eating the semicolon
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: yea cant get telnet or java client up which is why im on fmud, and id use an actual client but cant use my own pc for the time being
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Newer versions of fmud include some alias/scripting support.. but one on aards page doesn't seem to
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: hmmm, do you have a flash drive? you can download mush and run from a flash drive, I believe...though not sure that doesn't require telnet access
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Should run over the same ports as fmud does, if my understanding of how fmud connects is correct. I think its just running in browser, and connecting to the same ports
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: on the parents pc and their net is like the dialup of broadband
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: mushclient is pretty small, really
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: One warning about running mush from flash drive - the mapper will run dog slow.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Does work well otherwise, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: heh no flash drive, and its not the speed lac, its the blocks
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: speeds fast enough to run through fmud
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can run from dropbox - updates completely to local storage, so no media latency, just a short download time if you want to connect to a new machine
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: oh, nice idea, Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If he can install dropbox, he can download mush though 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: true enough
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And I'm sure dropbox is likely to require more permissions then mush
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i only have 1 arm so kinda need some of these things lol
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unfortunately, I don't think theres going to be a solution that doesn't involve running/downloading another program, like mushclient, or telnet.... Unless you can find what the escape character for fmud is - but its none of the usual suspects, and I can't find it with a little googleing
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: makes me wonder who deals with fmud, if its lash him self or another
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not sure, on the aard website. But the Fmud creator i don't believe plays aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or at least, doubt he has much to do with the running of it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: oic
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ENH500 has 300mbps wireless... but still only 10/100mbps lan
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I'd look for another brand then
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Likely a product of the price range. They offer quite a few options
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They offer one with 300mbps wireless, and gigabit ethernet
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: goes from $88 to $270US
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: mhmm, not real surprised about that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its not that they're not out there, but, buying them in pairs, thats over $500 just for the bridges
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Honestly, the wired network is presently only 100mbps.... so.. I doubt it'll be a problem presently
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: if you are willing to put up with something as bad as fmud, and want a tiny windows mud client, get http://www.elvenrunes.com/powtty/ it's literally putty combined with tintin
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: k t
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, main point was to get streaming video to an xbox 360.... its only got 100mbit port anyway. So it's really going to be the wireless issue anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: pretty much, yes...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: what kind of video quality cant be handled by 100Mb ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: should be able to handle just fine
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i would think so
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, wasn't saying there was video i needed to stream of that quality, aliens. Just trying to set up a bridge between two homes to share network/video access, and probably internet, if it ends up being stable enough
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My LAN over power spreads a good 350m up the power line.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the big thing is the distance--how far is it between the places you'd want to put the bridge pair?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: well unless you are on 11Mbps wireless streaming uncompressed security cameras plus 3 different bluerays, cant see a problem
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.belkin.com/us/F5D4076-Belkin/p/P-F5D4076
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I've got to actually get out there and measure it, but, probably not more then 100 feet, as my terrible estimation is
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: most home wireless is on rated for about 30m / 100 feet
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: only
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak... 2 different homes, I don't think that will be of use to me
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Seriously. Any place on the power line 350m up, down, left or right. Multiple homes in that radius.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you can setup up custom direction antennas though
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It spreads right back to the street lines
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: directional
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: aliens.. devices I was talking about are for this purpose. outdoor, weather proof, direction antenna devices.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would have to select a certain frequency if someone else got a similar device in their house, within 700m
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If I wanted to use the full range, that is
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you can make a directional antenna with tinfoil and a pringles tin
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need for antennas, no need for wireless, plug one end in at your house, plug the other end in a completely different house within 350m (said only 2 doors down, right?) and you will be able to connect at gigabit speeds
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: wifi directional antennas can reach for several km
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak, you won't get gigabit speeds with those.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I do get gigabit speeds with mine
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And they only work if you arwe on the same circuit
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, you get gigabit speed between the device and the powerline adapter =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you MIGHT not need to even get another wireless router, if yours is in the nearest window
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nope - I go across 2 circuits in my own house
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Then they are not as separate as you think
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Like I said, the signal propogates right back to the street and back
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, security is non existant.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Powerline will also degrade significantly over range
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It has password protection, or WPS
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oki.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 350m is the distance before signal degradation causes problems
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Although WPS is not secure.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Secure enough for most purposes
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: most consumer* purposes
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not really...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Unless you have a script kid on your block... sure
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But kids nowadays never download simple hack apps from the web and try them at home, do they?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just have to set the WPS to disable after 3 incorrect pins - best available app requires an average of 7500 attempts
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or disable it, that's simpler.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: fair enough, Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Anyways, over 350m I would go for wifi, basic directional antennas should work fine.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Powerline maxes out at 500mbps.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theoretical max.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: First generation only worked on the same phase - those are the ones that wouldn't jump circuits/breakers. the new ones will.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They will however not go through a transformer.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: realistically, if you put the wifi routers in the near sides of the two houses, you can probably get away without needing high-end stuff, outdoor rated stuff, or higher powered antennas
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, you can always add direction antennas later, if it doesn't work.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you've said you're talking like 100 ft or so, not an entire block
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lac - I think it's unlikely to get a reasonably fast connection that way
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Its 2 housees seperated by 1 additional lot/house
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pretty surbaban area, houses pretty close together
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What are your requirements?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Speed wise.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's worth testing, see what you get, and then you'll know if you need to do a faster connection
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ideally? I'm looking to be able to have an xbox in the second house stream cable/video from the media center extender in this house.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So 2 Mbits/s or so.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: from the windows media center pc in this house, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: if you need better, then add directional antennas or even just stronger antennas if your routers have external antennas on them
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ranrr.. where are you pulling 2Mbit from? =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, go for bridges and aps with external antenna.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: experience i would say
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Streaming regular video is thereabouts. Unless it's uncompressed.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: HD, Ranrr. Believe in streams directly in mpeg2.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, then you probably need a fibre cable in the ground.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Googleing.... 3.6MBps.. or just shy of 30mbps
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: DVD etc video playback on a lan, most of your time the client eg vlc will have buffered ... the video
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not a DVD, aliens. talking about cable.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A dug down fibre is the only solution that you know will work in all circumstances. 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not an option. And also nto expecting it to work in all circumstances =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's the most complicated solution, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the data stream wont take as much bandwidth as you imagine is what i am getting at
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You'll just have to experiment and see what works.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: as I imagine, Aliens?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes... try it... they see
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: no sense spending extras immediately if what you already have will work
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes you give the impression you think you need much more bandwidth than you will probably have available without trying it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What I have won't work. Thats a given.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it might, it sounds like the houses are pretty close
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you havent even tried
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 2 APs that are available are both wireless G.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: might not work well, but worth trying as a start
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wireless G is insufficient the stream, I've tested it within the same house, and it won't play smothly.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Make sure you get AP/bridge with as long reach as possible, there is a huge variance there.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: so look for wireless-n that have extended range capabilities and you'll be good with two of them
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lac.. which involves buying something. Which is not what I have available =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ok then move to simple inexpensive options and work your way up... or if you are loaded pay a linesman to put a fibre link between your houses
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: good ones can reach near two blocks
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you have a fast internet connection in both places, you can do a VPN between them.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The outdoor APs I was looking at aren't too far outside the price of a pair of N aps.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Won't cut it either, Ranrr. Upstream will be insufficient.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: BSing on tech about some wireless stuff, people seem to be.. wanting to offer all manner of solutions that aren't even in the same category
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: are the 2 house right next to each other? 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Managed to mischan that to not one, but too channels. lol
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: one house apart
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah. One house/lot in between the two.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: cause you could just run a cat6 cable across
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: oh damn
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: I came here because of the mischan. What does PING mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, it'd be a lot nice if they were. or across the street, for easier antenna access without blockage.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: does the house between block line of sight ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ish. But, mounting on a pole above the obstruction isn't a problem.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: cause blocking line of sight will screw your WiFi, and there is almost nothing you can do about that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i guess if you have a pole high enough
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It won't need to be very high at all.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: just type channel name
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: *click*
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And honestly, better option instead of going above, would be just to move one off axis, mount it in the back yard on the shed or something.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah whatever works as long as you have los
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I know. was already expected.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I guess the ideal here would be to get a full 100mbbit connection between the two properties. or close to.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that WILL cost you for good hardware
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah dont get your hopes up for full bandwidth... even with direction anntennas
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you should be able to get acceptable bandwidth tho
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, the streaming is what I want it for. 300mbit advertised wireless.. Could mount them directly on the fence line between the two properties, so they'd have LOS and be a pretty straight, short shot
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.engeniustech.com/business-networking/outdoor-access-points-client-bridges/9339-enh202- Think I might give these a shot.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you know if you have some electronic experice you might even be able to rigg up a modulated LED link
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can rig up a laser link, too, but that doesn't mean it's going to be as fast or effective as current wireless tech
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah IR or laser LEDs could do that distance
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might work for aliens, but us mere humans just use wireless.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: will be affected by weather tho...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: nah i made a simple version when i was a kid
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: ALL non-wired networking is affected by weather
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ID is affected by clouds and fog... but wind would be biggest factor at near ground level
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: IR
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: again, no. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: just a though  ::-)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you could always ask you intervening nehbour for permission to run cat6 along thier fence line...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not going there... rental property, owner is hard enough to get a hold of anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, cat6 is pretty weatherproof, just have to watch out for the squirrels
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: shame, cause the cat6 can go 100m (300ft?)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: thereabouts
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: easier to use a fibre, if you are going for a cabled solution
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Easier? no. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: omg no way... fibre is a PIA and is massively fragile... cat6 is tough as nails
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also not an option
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i know but cat6 is sooo much easier and hary than fibre
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: hardy
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That being said, I do think it'd be interesting to wire the house with it for other reasons... but mostly just on a whim, really
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: honestly a hardline option would be best... but sadly not an option
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Would be the easiest. Just a lot involved. trenching, running conduit.. probably end up being more expensive then a couple of the ones I was considering
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: nah you would need trenching for fibre, but not cat6
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: To my understanding, needs to be buried at least 18" deep.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: trenching or conduit
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you'd want to encase the cat6, anyway...squirrels
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: with cat6 you can get away without trenching or conduit
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I meant in conduit, 18" deep =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i used to work in a 6 story office building, we ran cat5 out a hole, down 2 storeys, across a catenery about 5 metres above an alley, into a neibouring building
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yes, but you don't really want to have to rerun it because of some rodent
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: very close to the 100m limit
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it was there for at least 5 yeah without problems
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: years
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Still likely not the right way to do it =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and I ran a 50-ft cat6 out a window and across under a deck to another window, and it got chewed up three times in 6 months.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: not ideal, but this is a domestic workaround... not military grade 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: don't bet on them not doing it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's a pain to rerun cable every couple months
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd also be worried about it not being up to electrical code.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah if you are gunna have animal probs, then run in underground conduit... and then well may as well go fibre
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i dunno about US code
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: networking code isn't US specific
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: but here we "basiclly" keep power and data seperarted by 30cm ...  data isnt really a big deal aside from that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... my understanding is it also falls under standard electrical safety codes, for a lot of things.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yes, it does, Daloran, that and telephony codes
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: in australia we have the AS3000 which outlines required power cabling policy
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you have a different set of critters there too
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ya, squirrels not so much... rats occasionally
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. my comment about it being buried 18" was from something I'd read about burying power lines.. was my understanding that it'd likely apply. definitely not an electrician though
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: upside of fibre is you eliminate any wierd grounding/lightening issues though... so thats a plus
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: here, squirrels, chipmunks, opossum, raccoons, rabbits, etc. are all common for gnawing on cords/cables besides those rats and mice
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i wouldnt worry too much about grounding with cat6 stuff, the connected devices will handle it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i love squirrels and chipmunks, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Aliens... thats a terrible idea.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: really what options are there anyway? cat6 is double insulated
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: fibre is just plastic... and even fibre could be an earth risk if hooked up badly so water becomes a hazard
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: cheapest way I've found of protecting them from rodents is 3/4" PVC plumbing pipe with 45-degree bends and drilled end-caps with the cable caulked around them...but that assumes you're putting your own ends on the cable.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. No reason not to.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah thats pretty much how we do wiring here, but you have to get the right pvc conduit tho, there is one for above ground, and one for underground
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And quite a few, aliens. One, if you're using metallic conduit it has to be grounded seperately. And there are surge protectors that are available to install on either end of the cable.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i was talking about pvc conduit... new metal conduit here is illeagal and suicidal
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PVC would likely be the better option anyway, yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: you guys a bunch of electrical engineers or what?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: they are tech nerds
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: nah, just a comp sci major in my case...but I had to take networking for that ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sounds about right for me, Vost
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i have some education as an electrican, and have worked with computer networking proffesionally too
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: I wish I had an understanding of electrical engineering. I'm learning JavaScript but hate the fact that I have no clue how computers even get to the point of a code language. I have a rudimentary understanding of machine code but no clue how electrical engineering can create it, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I've never had formal electrical training...though I can wire just about any home circuit needed, install/replace breakers, outlets, switches...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: logic gates
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Necsus, look into discrete mathematics and you'll find the link that you need for that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: cool. thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i did computer math subject at uni, i know logic gates
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how can i do this? Send("hold 614828648\
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: enter,hold 945337830")
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ;
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I made the mistake of doing it twice :-( Computer circuitry and discrete mathematics
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: try send to : script
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: those are different enough, Vakieh--one's theory and one's application
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how can i do this in a script? Send("hold 614828648,enter,hold 945337830")
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: where , is a semicolon
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: \\\Send("hold 614828648;enter;hold 945337830")
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The computer circuitry was a theory subject, and the discrete mathematics was a 'lets make maths more real world applicable' thing... not sure which was more like the other :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: ah, my computer circuitry course included making our own circuits
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i had to learn logic gates as a subject in comp sci... C coding as focus
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: discrete was all theory
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: i had them combined, think they called it 'discrete structures' or similar
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thats not working aliens
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: type on command line: \\\Send("hold 614828648;enter;hold 945337830")
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: but look for the box "send to", set it to send to script
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: Your race does not have a 945337830 wear location.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: lol i cant help you with your item ids
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are sending multiple arguments to the hold command
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: but it sounds like you are scripting ok
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My guess is you are not parsing the ; into 2 separate lines
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: the ids are correct
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: so it is sending in 1 big glob, and the mud doesn't parse the ; - your client needs to
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: nod, i could break it up into 3 Send()'s but I'm asking can it be done in one line
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: should be able to
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why would you want to? And you can, but use /n
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: seems you can't use ; with send
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: nod, \n is good
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Like I said, use /n
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: \n, rather :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: or use execute()
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ya, didnt see you said that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That said, it is probably not a good idea. Harder to read, and harder to look at and think 'why did I do that'
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: im porting scripts from TCL to LUA, its very convenient to be able to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah, have to agree, multiple send lines would be nicer
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Convenience now, pita later
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ive been doing it for years, not pita at all
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah tcl is like a languge that never really flourshised... i wonder why
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I read a why did that fail article a while back... now I can't remember what the conclusion was... made a lot of sense at the time
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: It did for a while -- now it only really exists in tk
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: these things come and go
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Here it is: http://journal.dedasys.com/2010/03/30/where-tcl-and-tk-went-wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tcl/tk had a time... not for long tho
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tk really evolved into things like GTK and stuff tho
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tcl got left behind
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and GTK is very much alive and kicking
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: but GTK had open bindings, and with TK being open to other languages... TCL died
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lololol... google chrome is now declaring tpb malware
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: given some of the spam links that it's popped up in recent months, it can't really be considered a safe site anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tpb died like a year ago anyway, it's just a shell of what it used to be
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it was never a safe site :-) But if you know how to work it it can work for you
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it's a RIAA shill now
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, but it was much safer than now
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And for everything else there's /r/trackers
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: to use execute(), do I call os.execute()?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i like kat.ph
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the new site for kickass torrents
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ya
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: since their .com got shut down
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: still kinda hoping demonoid will make a comeback, but I'm not sure it's going to at this point
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it has a pretty big price on it's head
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Demonoid never went away :-P It just went more private, and dropped the name. Once again, /r/trackers
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: os.execute() not working (doesnt seem to do anything)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: os.execute() seems wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: os.execute() runs shell commands, not mud stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: can you put use an alias in a macro?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Anyone here have any idea why when I pass an array of arguments to my soap server from my php client, when the server sees it instead of a large array of items, instead I'm left with an aggragated string? Ie, instead of 20+ array items, I have a single string with all of the array items concatenated into with no way to know where to seperate (programmatically)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I have an alias I previously created which is alias qs buy griffon. So whever I type qs at the Alchemy shop, I will automatically buy the flight potion. It works all the time but today I dont know what gone wrong with it, instead of buying the potion, the command become scan surrounding as in scan. I unalias qs but it still scan the area..any idea wats wrong?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Did you make a client alias for 'qs' ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I dont know, how to check, maybe I accidentally type something
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: did you recently install any new plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: yea
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: yesterday
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I install the winkle winkle one
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: b4 I install, it never execute wrongly
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: how do I solve this ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I check the mush alias and I never make one there
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: that plugin probably includes an alias for qs
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The SnD part does - I believe it's for "quickscan" to find a particular mob.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: so can it be fixed? 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: So, you can disable the plugin, make a different mud side alias to do your potion buying, or dig into the plugin and change 'qs'
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: you could also add qs as a mush alias, and will do both :P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Assuming if I intended to go into plugin, how shall I do go about?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: is it complicated?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I think that's the worst option.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I just leave it as it be then, thanks all of u:)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Unfortunately the people who were helping me last night probably aren't here...My Windows XP all of a sudden is giving me an error and rebooting continually...wanted me to re-authorize but won't give me the opportunity
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I've booted into safe mode/command prompt and run chkdsk , it fixed some sectors and indexes ... still have the same problem (lsass.exe status code 0) ... any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Whats the command to I guess send to script in mushclient? "/" doesn't seem to work. Tried "/Note "blah" as a test
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I believe it's a triple backslash.  ///
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: hmm didn't work for me.  Where could I have changed it on accident in setings?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: try \\\
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Yep there we go thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Heh. Figured it was triple backslash, but I gave you the wrong slash :p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Oops!
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So if it's not a simple physical HD issue (anymore, presumably), I guess next step is an anti-virus rescue disk?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: make backup while drive is accessible then reinstall windows
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: how do you use a variable in mushclient.  like say variablename?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Drive isn't accessible right now...Can't even log into windows in regular or safe mode
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should also check hdd for bad sectors
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Is it ticking or clicking?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Your BCD/MBR may be screwed up.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either check smart info (fast method) or use some disk testing software from manufacturers web page
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Already did chkdsk, it found a few bad sectors/indexes on my boot drive, ran it on my other HDD it didnt find any but said second boot sector is unwriteable
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: You can download an ISO called Hirens(I recommend version 13) and use Vivard or HDAT2 to scan the sectors on the drive. Also theres a test called Hard Drive Sentinel that show health of the drive based on SMART warnings.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: chkdsk is FS level tool, you need hardware check
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Boot to Hirens, check hardware.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: consider making backup before taking any actions - even checking disk
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: HOw do I make a backup if I can't even get into the system ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depend on what resources you have available
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have another PC where you can put that HDD into, or have other HDD drive taking backup is rather simple
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Nope, it's my only PC and I don't have an external case to hook the drives up to my mac..:-(
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try boot from windows install CD and try to repair you installation
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes it works
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you should be aware that you may lose data
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have mac available, then you could download live cd and then transfer files to your mac
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Lose it in a way that Acronis would probably recover it? Or like lose lose ? :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: everything *depends*
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are so many factors that one cannot say for sure whether you will lose it forever or that you will recover it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: considering fact that you have not used rescue tools before - that increases chance you will lose lose it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH considering fact you are able to use some live cdd - that increase chance you will recover it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: If keeping data is paramount, is my best choice to pop the HDDs into another computer and retrieve all important files from there, before trying any windows repair?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, you can boot linux live CD, mount HDD partition and transfer files via ftp
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Or a USB.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or a usb - even easier, or burn cd/dvd/bd
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ohhh I get it now,...any particular distro?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Knoppix is commonly used, though to be honest Ubuntu should work fine too.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: OK, scratch the *is*. I can't justify that with recent data.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: knoppix seems good, you should pick that distro which have ntfs support
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically you need distro which is able to mount your Windows partition
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the most common FS for Windows will be either FAT32 or NTFS
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so your distro should support that filesystems, and Knoppix does
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shirana Tech: Could anyone help with an issue with aliases? I'm trying to make the alias mentioned in help volley, but it's only executing the first command of the string. I'm sure I'm typing it correctly. I'm using the aard mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: You probably want to be using two semicolons
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: eg: alias hithere say hi;say there
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how are you creating the alias
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: eg: alias hithere say hi;;say there
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: the latter
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shirana Tech: I'm typing it like I thought the help file says: volley
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The helpfile described a mud alias
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You are making a client alias
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shirana Tech: hmm ok well I guess I don't understand the difference lol
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you can press ctrl-shift-9, then Add for new alias
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in Alias: you type vshoot
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in Send: you type the volley and 7 shoots, on new lines
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: copy and paste this #alias {vshoot} {alias vshoot volley;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot}
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so one line volley, one line shoot, next line shoot, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: except on one line
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: er, without the alias in tehre
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: copy and paste this #alias {vshoot} {volley;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot}
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and then in Send to: you pick world
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shirana Tech: ahh ok finally got it! thank you very much for all the help. had to read it a few times but finally got it lol
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: does aard mushclient use sqlite 3 db?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper does
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mushclient also. look for files with *.db extension
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and mapper db file is Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also mushclient_prefs.sqlite and help.db are in SQLite 3 format
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: can i reinstall plugin from command line?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Jedhi: do you use any of my plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: bast no, why do you ask?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i'm developing new plugin and it would be faster to reinstall it from command line for code testing. create a alias or something. 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: like "ReloadPlugin ("ID")" ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, thanx alot
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In firefox, you can tell it to not use a proxy for certain websites.  Is there a way to tell it to use a proxy ONLY for certain websites?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: foxyproxy?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think that might do what I want.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a descent method for converting iso's to MP4 or AVI on linux
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: avc works well for windows, don't know if there's a nix version
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well, still can't boot normally into XP, BUT this Hirens boot disc someone suggested looks like it will allow me to back all the important stuff up to USB/disc before I end up reformatting
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I know everyone has been eagerly awaiting updates on my broken PC :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: have you tried the install disk "repair" option ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Not yet, that's what I'm going to try first but was told it may cause data loss regardless
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i have used it serveral times, it hasn't lost anything for me
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: the AVG rescue CD found some trojans in old java cache files, but apparently could not fix it...has not been able to locate the sasser worm 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it might cause data loss if you choose the wrong options and reinstall the OS
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Luckily, I was smart enough to keep most of my personal documents on a separate hard drive, only thing I would really lose reformatting C would be all my save game files :-/
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: lmao what use is a AV that cant delete files in a file system thats not even live
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: AVG is complete crap
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: complete?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmmm guess I'll try avira rescue as well
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I just want a simple alias that will set two variables to mweapon and oweapon, and I'm being stupid apparently. What do?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: <alias   match="weap * *"   enabled="y"   sequence="100"  >  <send>mweapon = %1;oweapon = %2</send>  </alias>
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: how do I paste an alias like that?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You use SetVariable("mweapon")=%1, I think.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The way you have it now, it's setting variables, but it's Lua variables.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah that alias was not gunna do what you want anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: but copy, then file->import->clipboard
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: so how do I go from lua variables to uh variables in an alias?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just told you how.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though admittedly, it may be the wrong syntax.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: ah, sorry I read into that variables set that way i had to access
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But almost sure you need SetVariable("mweapon") in it.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: it got me close enough thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: Why, in zmud, is it that every time I quit it does not save my most recent script changes?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I have no clue.  That's not a problem I've had.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: that was a very insightful response.  Thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: any reason my zmud won't remember my map file when i load it then quit?  always reverts back to the old one
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what OS are you using it on?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how new?  Like this year's music shows new, or something around the age of The Band Perry?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: vista or later screw with you depending on which folder you install to and wheather you run as admin
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok so infected pc will not log on to any webpages. when attempting to go to a webpage it prompts you for router username and password. give router username and password and still nothing. connect directly to modem and it will not connect to webpages. ping still works on both accounts though. any ideas/
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: in mush client whenever I click the alias/trigger/timer/anything in tool bar or open a menu the client crashes
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: the oly time it does not crash is when I open plugins with the shortcut
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: any idead?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ideas*
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: while/else. Python, you one crazy mofo
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah python is eccentric, but it's good stuff makes up for it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: how do you turn off MUSHclient update check?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably uninstall plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: thanks! it works
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: how do you get a password off the hard drive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: format it, probably, or hacking until you guess right.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: use ophcrack
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i didn't install the password, but somehow it has one
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: my computer had a virus, and a guy was reformating it for me
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lophtcrack won't do anything for hard drive passwords
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably shouldn't let that "friend" touch your valuables anymore.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: he was gonna redo windows ultimate for me
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: so he took it apart and put the board in another computer and it worked
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: sounds like he has a pw on his windows login?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: so its the hardrive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it was my computer, i didn't have a password for windows login
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: It's on the motherboard jameson.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: You can USUALLY reset it by removing the motherboard battery.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: To be honest though, it sounds like some guy stole your motherboard and gave you something worse.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: thats what i was thinking
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i remembered i have a 1600 mgz processor
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, first you need to determine exactly what type of password it is...there are power on passwords, supervisor passwords, bios access passwords, hard drive passwords, and passwords associated with the OS
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: should i take it to a professional?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all leads back to my friend-->valuables comment.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i think its a bios password, or sounds like it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: when does it ask you for your password....
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the lenovo laptop that I just got into, the power on password can be reset using the cmos battery, but the supervisor password (required to change bios) can only be reset by swapping motherboards...and hard drive password isn't reset even when reformatted
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Mokg - From what I know, the CMOS is always volatile memory, so if he finds and removes his motherboard battery, it should reset it all.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i know you can reset the bios with the prongs, but not sure about the harddrive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and many dells have a TPM, which cannot be reset with prongs or mobo battery
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: pretty sure hes just confused and its a windows password
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this laptop or tower? towers are intentionally less secure, as they presume that physical access is king, so they often have a jumper or button on the motherboard to reset the bios passwords
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: laptops don't trust physical access because they can be left anywhere
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i was thinking he didn't rip me off because 1600 Mhz isn't something to get a hardon over
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: is there a way to not have chatter show up in the main window of the aard mush client
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: ignore
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes, check the right-click menu system for the comm log plugin window.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: except on says, they can say anything
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not echoing it.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: hm.  I see.  Any recommended plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starting with the aard mushclient package, finger bast and browse his wiki
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Is there a way to move the command line in mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: anyone know a good free media player that can open .flac sound files
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most media players can play them using downloadable codecs, vlc will play damn near any audio or video file without anything else needed
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: ah damn didn't realize i hadn't reinstalled VLC since i formatted, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: what command do I need to reset the mush client window
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout reset iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: RESETAARD
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yes thats it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I was confusing the reset with aard layout lock/unlock
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Is there a way to move the command line in mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: crap
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: move your monitor
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: I tried that, the command line wound up off the screen, it was the strangest thing
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll let you minimize the command window to nothing, but when you type, it'll restore to normal size
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Aye, I was hoping for a way to anchor it to the main output window so that it was aligned somewhere other than the bottom left corner
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, can't be done
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in CMud I could just use  to reference the ansi escape code.  Does regex have a way to do the same?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in CMud I could just use %e to reference the ansi escape code.  Does regex have a way to do the same?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: gotta question
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: then ask it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: so ask
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you tried restarting computer?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: somehow a virus put a password on my hardrive in my computer. have you ever heard of that from a virus
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Stop downloading porn
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: the guy couldn't even use the windows reformat to reboot it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ransomware?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: low level format?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: is there a way to delete the remaining partition to get it to work?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: BIOS lock from a virus?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: not bios, just the HD
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You mean the operating system?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: the hard drive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it was a laptop harddrive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: if it was the bios i could just remove the batter
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Back up - what operating system?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: battery
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: windows ultimate
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: he was gonna redownload it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: he reformated the whole drive, or so he says, he said it wouldn't work
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: the confusing part is he can hook it up to another computer and it would work
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: just as a secondary drive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: maybe a bootloader virus?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Sounds like he put a password on the MBR
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: can a virus do that?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: why can't he reset the MBR
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Viruses can do anything =o
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: if you can access to it in another computer, you can re-write the MBR
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: fdisk /mbr
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: or hit f8 before windows starts
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: sounds good, i'm gonna call him right now
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the parts of hard drive that normally store hard drive passwords aren't touched by normal reformatting tools
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and depending on the laptop, you can't get to bios or anything else without getting past the hard drive password
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I'd imagine any decent partition software would handle those abe
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Most of the time you can access bios before HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope fates
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: HDD passwords are before partitioning
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: even a zeroing utility by the manufacture?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Manuf software might be able to do it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: dod wipe?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: got another question
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: con all
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a part of the hard drive that's not user-accessible, you'd need a chipset-compatible version of a secure erase tool
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: my buddy got locked out of his router and said there is a program that can get the password of it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i'm looking for a wifi cracker of some sort
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the router...for home routers, hit the reset buttons
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Most of the time you should just factory reset it, just hold the reset button for a while.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably just easier to reset the router to default, jameson
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wifi cracker isn't the router password
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i need a wifi password cracker, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: wireshark
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yes i do :) please :)
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: there's no reason you'd need that
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: ok i don't, he does
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no he doesn't
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No he doesn't =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a wifi password cracker doesn't get you into the router
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: why not :)
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: what is his objective ?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: hit the reset button  on your router
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: its not technically his router :)
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not? because it doesn't do what you said he's looking to do
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: holddown the reset button
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Then you want to break into someone elses router. Be upfront about your intentions.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then why would we help him break the law
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: he wants his neighbor's wifi
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: we are not technically breaking the law, he might be, but i plead the 5th
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: sounds like it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: conspiracy to commit
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: accessory
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: illegal torrents
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+break+into+my+neighbors+wifi
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: most hacker programs are for experminting only, says so on the cd
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: 'hacker programs' .. lol
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so what're the odds that the "virus put a password on my hard drive" really means "I, umm, found this laptop"
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you mean cracker ?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Regardless, you're looking for help doing something thats illegal in the US - so the content does not belong here.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: hack at your own risk
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep cracker
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if youre looking for help on how to do it on a mud then you're likely to never be able to do it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: cough nuke cough nuke
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i was just looking, there are lines, but i don't cross them :)
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So you 'found' a computer, and 'need' accessory to a wifi that isn't 'technically his'. This sounds like a whole lot of dirty business.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: true, if you dont know how to do something you'll never do it.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: the computer was mine
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have already crossed them here
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah pretty much good that... this place aint for illeagal stuff, and watch your ass on those sites of ill-repute, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe he stole the router too, and thats why he needs the password =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Medieval Jameson nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ..... Bad time to nod, Jameson. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: thanks for the help too bad it wasn't much help, the mbr was genious
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If he had physical access to the router then he could get access no problem :P
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you stole the router, then you'd have physical access and the reset button would get you in
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: He doesn't want to reset it though, apparently =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well that's cuz it does him more good when it's connected to someone else's broadband :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: my SSID is AusFederalPoliceMobile04    lol
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol abe.. yep.. he doesn't want to.. FOR SOME REASON. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Mind is abcd123456
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran looks at Aliens ponderingly.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wonder if thats close enough to impersonating a police officer here
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: impersonating a police van router ?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hey, you never know =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: meh, slap on wrist at worst, aussie larikinism
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: <-- not aussie.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah dunno about your locals, some places take themselves too serious
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And some places take themselves NOT SERIOUS ENOUGH
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: W00T W00T! Mega is back to sane speeds, managed to make an account :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: does anyone use bast's eq plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: or any of the plugins from bast?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: does anyone use bast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes some people do
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I am having some trouble with the EQ one :-\ was wondering if someone had advice
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: quest request
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: mis. lol.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'd like a tech quest too :P
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: hey how do i get invited to CES next year?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+i+get+invited+to+CES+next+year%3F
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Score: Mokg +1
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I have not seen an lmgtfy reference used in a long time, had to load it myself to see it still worked :)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: then youll like this one too
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: http://lmmtfy.net/
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I saw a bacon one before hmm
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: let me bacon that for you?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Something like that...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: haha, cant find it unfortuantly
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For anyone that was around for the convo about wireless/media center streaming.. its about 30mb/sec required for streaming HD video across the lan
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Made any progress on a solution?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah, but at least I have a number I'd need to shoot for
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if 30 mbit is the goal, 300mbit wireless could suffer quite a bit of loss and still hit it.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yup.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So I think the $75ish ones would do it the 300N, as opposed to the 150mbps N
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: really, the cheapest of them would probably work, but such a small difference
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe try some 802.11ac stuff?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: 30 mbit is way higher than you need, unless youre talking about 1080p
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its measured at 30mbit, mokg.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Pff, U-verse can do 4 1080p streams on 32mbit
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and likely 1080i.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I don't know if they have black market codecs or what
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe if it were compressed, noodlez
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I'm talking live tv streams
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I could stream 720p on a 10 mbit line just fine
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As am I, noodlez.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: stream aard??
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And maybe Mokg - but i'm talking specifically about streaming a TV station from a windows media center server to an xbox.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: so being a MS product they prob use RLE for video compression
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ooo. Fancy. apparently the tuner will stream to a PS3 as well, via DLNA. Didn't know that.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Possibly Aliens, not sure. However the live streaming I imagine will be in Mpeg2.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grahzka Tech: anyone here familiar with the Android client?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: torch?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: there is only one ?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grahzka Tech: yes, the only one.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: highlander
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grahzka Tech: Not Macleod...  The Aardwolf client on Android.  Lol
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grahzka Tech: Is anyone familiar with it?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i bet some people are, why don't you cut the foreplay and just ask your question
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grahzka Tech: I thought people liked foreplay...  Anyway, does anyone know how to change the transparency of the buttons?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: I can't count how many times i get to a room and i type ls intead of look
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a way to make git use putty for SSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: Hi guys. Here's my issue, every time I move (s,n,..) there is some script printed  right above the map                                                                          ex.:                                                                                    table {}
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm assuming it's for some reason trying to print out the map stored in a lua table.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: sorry message got separated, I try once more in a sec
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: I use mudlet on debian as client, could it be some wrong configuration ? I haven't changed anything from default. 
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Using MAG?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What version of Debian are you using, Techne?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: what's a mag ?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: wheezy
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The answer is 'no' then :P
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: what kernel version is that?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, I'm on squeeze and tt++/screen works nice.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: 3.2.0-4 
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Where do you get MAG anyway, Cheez? We should package these things and ask to put them on repos :)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I wouldn't mind "apt-get install aardwolf" one day.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I don't even know anymore. I can't recall who even made it at this point.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's wiki will tell you where to get it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well it definitely wasn't Abelinc :P
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: started wiht a 'z' iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien has fluffled your fur! Argh, now you have to comb it again!
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click clients, look at the link for MAG
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: MUG looks cool, I'll try it. Thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zaxes posted most of the MAG stuff to the wiki...ooh, was about to say Mudlet hasn't been touched in years but they've finally started again, so you can actually get the mapper that wasn't easily available for most ports for the past couple years
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what's a good and free way to edit video files?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: windows movie maker?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: movie maker lasts support for cellphone made vids iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: lacks*
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea I took videos with my ssung Note
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: put them on my pc, and want to chop them down
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but zero clue how to do this
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: anyone ever have issues where perhaps commands are sent but apparently not received?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: only if i'm browsing help files or long lists of skills and forget to press q
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, I mean the command gets sent but Aard just doesn't respond at all when obviously it should be responding.  Specifically, sending an echo command and not having it echo.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use echocommands to see what the MUD thinks you've sent
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd chalk that up to a competing gag
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Can someone tell me how to log just the comm log on mush client?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: right click in the window and hit logging?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: and then...?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hit enable and it is logging
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: How do I see the file it output to?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It isin your logs folder in MUSHclient folder.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I think the file is AardwolfChatLog.txt in your Mushclient/logs dir
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look in the logs folder
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one called chat is for chats :P
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Thanks guys, no experience with this
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: how often doe sit refresh or do I need to hit log session under FILE
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me either ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, don't hit log session
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does it every time something is put into it.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: ok so it automatically just updates in my chatlog
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't matter how often it refreshes...logs are for old stuff...look in your com log window for new stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: hi guys, do you know if there is a good client for this MUD on MacOS?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: wine + mush
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: I noticed the client downloadable from the website is an exe....
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Yes. Use WINE.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: does it have an automapping feature like the one for windows?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the one for windows...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: I don't have a windows machine :) only Mac
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: oh that's cool!
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's fine, Macs run the Windows client just fine
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless it's an 8 year old Mac, anyway...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: no... mine is 1 yo
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: thanks very much for the help :)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyone know in aardwolds mapper db where is noportal flag stored?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Room information
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in rooms table?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Try there.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: there is noportal column, but setting it to 1, does not work somehow
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it must be somewhere else as well
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you trying to edit it when you have MUSH open?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: though rooms, which have been marked noportal by mapper, have value 1 in this field
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no, i'm not editing
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that not all portals care about the noportal flag
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (not all MUSH mapper portals, that is)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i mean i have a plugin, which sets the field to 1
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and when i check db, value has changed to 1 but i still can portal out from this room and mapper thisroom does not diaplay the noportal flog
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so it must be stored somewhere else than rooms table
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you're not reloading
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why you shouldn't be setting it yourself in a separate plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Look up the function noportal_room() in the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's how the mapper sets a room to noportal
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It might be because you're not calling save_room_to_database()
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok, i'll do that.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: editing the noportal column in rooms table was correct. mapper is cashing room info in room variable. can i change it from my plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sorry, roomsm variable. it is updated rooms[current_room].noportal = 1
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, the mapper doesn't recalculate paths if it has a precalculated path and as far as it's concerned nothing has changed
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: any idea?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: hi guys my words are being cut off on my output menu how do i fix this again?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: and if i can change the font that'd be great
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone have any idea why i'm getting this popup error with mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: Unable to create the plugin save state file: C:\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\state\<complicated file name>.xml
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: seems to occur everytime i q request
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check permissions on that file
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: broken bot
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh cool, will have a look thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: looks like dell going to get bought out
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Anyone heard about the Leap Motion?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is that the kids toy?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Nah, sounds like it, but it's got humonous potential, google it.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: is that where you propel yourself through the air hard enough that your feet actually leave the ground?  I heard its hard.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: styx what you talking about
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, yeah, we have one of those.  It's called Kinect.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Waaaaaay better than Kinect
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't have as much potential as it has hype
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Way more accurate, way smaller.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how?  It's the same exact technology, just focused on laptops.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: It's not cameras like Kinect, you don't have to stand back 15ft for it to work.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've been hyping it up for close to a year now
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I question the distinction of no cameras...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: camaras are involved.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: It creates 8 cubic feet of space you can interact with, it's super accurate, they showed a demonstration where it can detect movements in mm
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's doing the same thing, the details don't change that...it's pretending to be touchscreen, just without touching or the accuracy that comes with touching
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: motionsense doesn't at all work without being able to see the user.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: did you buy stock in this damn thing or something? why you have such a big boner for something thats already been done?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Have you watched the videos? It's a hell of a lot more accurate than kinect, and a whole lot cheaper too.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I just see a lot of potential in it.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the problem with detecting millimeter movements in 3d is that you cannot then tell when you're 'touching the paper' vs 'getting to where you want to be on the paper'...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: real-world use is pretty limited
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I see a lot of potential in streak free underwear too but I don't preach about it.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that said, it doesn't have to be an optical-light camara.  Could be infrared or x-ray scanner.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: haha.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's the latest thing, everybody is doing it. 
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: this discussion reminds me of the segway
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe for gaming it could be useful, but they want to extend it to e.g. office work.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and how they predicted everyone would have one?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and there's another thing that was supposed to revolutionize, but is extremely niche
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and the hype
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I want a segway, it's just too expensive. And walking is good for you.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Just how accurately it can map things in a 3d space is what got me.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nothing new there.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: They could easily impliment a way to put your face on a character in a game, if you wanted to.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd like the eye controller from tobii, if anything.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: At a $70 pricepoint that's pretty impressive.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: lol noodlez bought-into the hype... advertising wins again
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Got a URL to it?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: It may not be all new, but it's going to be way more accessable.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Sec
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leapmotion.com :P
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: the problem with this technology is usually the speed... i have a friend at MIT working on something very similar
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've been hyping it for presales for 9 months now...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they already have that, too, Noodlez.  You don't really hear about it because the game industry took a big hit and made some bad bets in the meantime.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i remember the segway was hyped for over a year before anyone even knew what it was
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: on the horizon, I think, is photo-rendering for avatars.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: You can go to leapmotion.com and there's a video on the top that shows it off pretty well.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: they do that already
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can not only put your own picture in, but it'll move according to the actions you take.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: quite simply it's "you in a video game"
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: they do that too
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe you could implement the "kung fu typewriter" with something like this.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I'm not saying it's all new, or it's gonna change everything, I just see a lot of potential in it and think it's gonna be cool, I'll leave it at that.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Styx, what games do they do that in?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I want a functioning brain-computer interface. Then you could be interacting 24/7 :D
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: theres a bunch of games that allow you to move the avatar as yourself
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: and theres been one or 2 games that have done photorendering of your face over the avatar
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Well not only will it do a photo rendering, it can map the shape, too.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: "the avatar", though.  It's not actually drawn in your image, and they certainly aren't doing limbs and torso yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: think one of the battlefields did it on xbox? Some shooter, not really sure which one.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: now imagine the goverment with "a functioning brain-computer interface"
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: that would suck Han
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: why would I want a fat white guy running around killing stuff? he prolly couldnt make it up that pixelated hill
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: and forget 3rd person view, I couldnt see around myself!
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I prefer to keep the government out of my computer, no matter how I interact with it, thank you.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they have one already.  They are still tinkering with it, but it's currently implanted in research monkeys...and that cyborg man who can interface with appliances in his smarthome.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I want a matrix-style interaction, not just concentrate really hard to press a button.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: imagine being able to just think the snooze button into activation, or having your k-cup kick in 3 minutes before you stumble into the kitchen?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: thinking the snooze button into activation would be a disaster for me
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: i'm bad enough having to roll over and press it =D
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not for long.  Someone will invent a practical bed that's trained to dump you onto the floor if you sleep in too late.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: currently there ARE such trick beds, but they're DIY models and not real practical for mass production.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Seems my phone broke over the weekend. Which phone should I (convince my boss to let me) buy? Any tips? (android)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Galaxy seems like a good choice from what I've seen.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: S3 then?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Or note if you want it a bit bigger.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Got an S2 now, it is the goldilocks size for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: find out if you qualify for a free upgrade, and if so what the offerings are.  Will be easier to avoid the obvious "no" if your boss happens to be aware of such things.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Then don't get a note.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: don't need a trick bed, just a simple timer, an electric fence psu and a simple grid of of electric fence tape on top of the matress, I am sure you won't sleep in again.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Free upgrade? Why would they give me a phone for free?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Contract
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oic. I doubt it, that's not how contracts work in sweden.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means the normal subsidized cost rather than buying outright
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Here, we normally pay for phone and service separately. At least business contracts are like that.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what about warranties and upgrades?  In the US, you are free to buy your own phone whenever you want, but you also have the option to get a new phone paid for by the provider due to warranty coverage or time spent in the contract.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe so. We have a reseller that handles all that for us, I just tell them want phone I want and they give me the best deal they can fix for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, galaxy S3, any more I should look at?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: That's all I hear hype from.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: kk, thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: is there a way to show a custom exit on mapper in mushclient? Like a different color for a room with a cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: different color? no, but you can list the nearby ones
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: hmm, anyway to set a room a different color?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can change all rooms of a certain terrain (eg. all forest rooms) to a different color, but don't think you can for an individual room
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: not without custom hacking anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: how do you access a variable from command window in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: \\\Note(world.GetVariable("foo"))
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: how about if I wanted to essentially do a  alias variablename?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: so it seems I can't do a simple variable from command window ie.  kick @target and it gets expanded to kick expandedvariable?  Maybe I'm just being silly because its late.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It can be done - Gammon has a solution somewhere, bu probably easier if I just pastebin the plugin code, 1 sec
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I think my biggest limitation is trying to treat mushclient like zmud.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://pastebin.com/yUhPxD98
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Save that as Expand_Variables.xml, stick it in your world/plugins folder, add it via Ctrl+Shift+P, and all of a sudden @varname will work in the command bar
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Thanks Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: \\\Send("kick " .. world.GetVariable("target"))
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And if @varname isn't a valid plugin, it gets sent as raw, so you can still use aard colour codes :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: valid variable name*
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: man didnt think of that alien
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, this will require you to use world.Execute(...)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: send skips all plugins and aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: mine seems easier  ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yours is easier Aliens, but mine is multipurpose
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can use my bag variables by manually typing in the command bar should I choose to
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: personally i wouldnt even use them variables
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: All of you guys rock thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can also combine aliases on the fly, by incorporating commands as the variable data and typing manually "@varOne @varTwo""
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: see I've been coming to that realization slowly, its a crutch I guess. 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i see a former zmud acolyte
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens starts to giggle to himself like a little girl.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: im just learn mush scripting myself
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: heh I've had years of the zMud koolaid
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: one thing zmud has i missed  #20 drop axe
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's easily implemented
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I have one somewhere
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: <alias   match="#* *"   enabled="y"   group="tools"   send_to="12"   sequence="100"  >  <send>for count = 1,%1 do Send("%2") end</send>  </alias>
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i made one  ;-D
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and when it's that easy...it's not really a major issue that it's missing
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ya, it was good intro into mush figuring out how to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: re: mush mapper: does anyone know a way to label a room, so i can do something 'like' mapper goto label, instead of mapper goto 30585
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: closest i've found is adding notes to a room
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone else just dc? In Au, dropped mud connection, kept other pages (inc. US pages) and lost www connection to aardwolf.com also...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i'm in au and im fine
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ISP? Mine is Telstra
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: internode
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: what is the best client for a blackberry(i know there is no good one:p but what is the best?)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: BBSSH
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newmind Tech: please, anyone can help me to the MCCP. i followed the instruction for zmud, but there is no choise indicated by the help
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there gmcp info to see spouse name?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: where does mapper store portal and cexit information? can find them in aardwold.db file
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Talk to Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: are there any vidblain plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Get a trivia portal to Sendhia and it will address that.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why would you need a plugin for vidblain?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ww's mapper extender has a vidblain hack, might want to check that out
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: it works by running to vidblain and then recalculating the path for rooms in vidblain
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need much of a plugin, just mapper goto <roomname>, wait, then mapper redume
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper resume*
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ill try that abelinc
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mapper goto 33321 gives There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms: - do i have to teach the mapper how to rt vidblain first?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you should get an imperial nation portal
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sendhia trivia portals are nice.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: anyone ever owned a bad DVI cable that makes your monitor flicker, and the flicker goes away if you log off and on again?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't sound like a cable problem
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you sure it is a cable?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: makes sense. what could it be
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: not sure
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: video card, video card driver
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: maybe hardware in the monitor starting to go too
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: i see. it only happens to one particular cable though
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then replace the cable problem solved :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: it's $30. no refund :(
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bad cables can certainly cause flicker
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you're paying $30 for a DVI cable, that sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's pretty expensive for a dvi cable
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: yeah. i'm a sucker
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: $30 for a DVI cable?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost sighs.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: a long one
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, like, 100 foot
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably bought in-store or something.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a long one including p&p i could believe
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: to the neighbors?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Heisenburger :D 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shouldn't use too long a cable without some kind of relay
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: hmm didnt know that
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think the suggestion is 20m for dvi, 5m for USB
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is it a shorter cable that the problem doesn't happen with?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: exactly right ^
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: do you still have the long cable coiled up?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: it's about 18ft. no coils
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i've made long runs with hdmi cables and had no issues.... and to my understanding DVI is electrically identical for the video portion
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: the store i bought from gave me 3 identical dvi cales. all had the same problem
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: VGA as well, which isnt' exactly the same thing... but 100ft =o
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: they let me try again and again, but no refund :'(
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: where are you getting them from? just so i never buy there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: toronto. let me look up the name
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: 18ft ought to be long enough to hang a cable vendor.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Heisenburger falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: it's inmax computers
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: actually has a website
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how are the rafters in the building .... sturdy enough to hold a man?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: not sure. only women and kids in there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: the kids laugh at me every time i came back
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: to try a different cable, that is
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would go there and tell them you want to return all the cables and if they don't take them you are going to start making posts about it online and put up flyers
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: might want to bring the cable in and have them plug it in and show them it flickers
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depending on local laws, they're not obligated to take a return
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Late to the game here, but you pay by credit card?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: cash only...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is this run out of the back of a van?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya but they might decide to take the cable back to prevent bad name
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: yeah I'll take a screenshot of this chat and threaten the store owner tomorrow
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: these complete strangers I play an old school text game with told me to return this cable... or hang you with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: sounds about right :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would bring the cable in and have them hook it up first to show them it doesn't work right
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: then tell them they can either refund you the money or you can start telling everyone you know that they sell defective items
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: hmmm...sounds like a plan
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: they also have a website you can add a horrible review to
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: yeah? :D
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: oh i see what you mean
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just ask for a credit note and grab it elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: i'll try all your ideas tomorrow
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: emote thanks everyone for chipping in
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: fail
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Heisenburger thanks everyone for chipping in
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok so i have a used monitor that when power is turned on will show everything for about a second and then it turns off. if i look really close i can see the menu for a second but is is almost impossible to see. question is, is it a capacitor or an inverter that is messed up?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Sounds like a bad ballast failing to keep the backlight on, I have a monitor with the same problem.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: If I turned it off and on enough times eventually it would stay on.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ahh ok ya that actually sounds like a more reasonable solution. did it make a strange noise. like a camera flash powering on for a split second
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Nah, mine didn't really make a noise, then again I have partial deafness so I may not have heard it.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya this is probably outside most peoples hearing range anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i guess i will just junk it. it has a cool stand but it is a 4:3 aspect lcd so what ever. anyone in MN want it? hp L1950
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: been getting these errors with mush: Unable to create the plugin save state file: C:\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\state\<complicated file name>.xml
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: abe suggested it might have something to do with permissions, so i've unchecked read-only and deleted the folder, but it seems to automatically recreate the files as read-only
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: where do you have mush installed?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: in a folder on the desktop
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm well then it's not saving in the right place for one
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: The desktop is technically inside your documents.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: oops sorry, i typed that path wrong.... it does give the correct path to the folder
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's trying to save to a directory that doesn't exsist
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: comes as a popup box, so can't copy and paste from it
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I would install it to the normal path (i.e. program files etc)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: That or directly to the root as you typed it
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: install to \program files\ will cause permission problems in >vista
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: win vista etc don't having programs save crap in program files
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: also, funny thing is that this only happened once i copied the directory from another pc i was running it on (both 7 64-bit)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err like
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: runs fine when i copy it back to the original pc and run it from there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: also from a folder on desktop
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it may have saved the other users folder name to save in
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: why did you delete the folder after changing permissions? did you try saving it with change/modify permission
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: UAC
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so unless both pc's have the same user name...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: try right-click, run as admin
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahhh....so moving it to say C:\MUSHclient\ might be worth a try? (done that too aliens)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: put it in my documents and run from there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: myself i use a seperate games folder for pre vista games etc...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: vorpes - tried just unchecking readonly first, but it seemed to persist so abe said it wouldnt hurt to delete them and let the plugins recreate the state files
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Since you don't need to install anything, running from My Documents is probably easiest
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: cool, might try moving the directory - thanks all for the responses :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: might have to take ownership of folder and then remove read only
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i have no problems with mush folder on desktop (not just a shortcut)...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and i use win 7
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, desktop should be fine, too
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But c:\MUSHclient isn't the desktop
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah because desktop is in your personal space, not like program files or root
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds like a path issue and the plugins making too many assumptions :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it's a UAC issue
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not if it's on his desktop
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i still have UAC enabled...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol well I like having IE use a sanbox...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher pats Aliens on his head.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: UAC will stop many programs from writing to protected areas unless you are admin...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I've always had UAC enabled.  Never given me any problems whatsoever.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i disabled it as soon as i got win7 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: protected areas such as program files
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's your loss
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing to try, right-click MUSHclient, go to properties...see if there's an "unblock" button/checkbox...that's what causes programs to ask "do you really want to run xxx", and it's the result of not trusting where you downloaded/copied it from
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You know, that's one thing I've disliked about Windows 8 so far - the fact that UAC seems to pop up even when it's disabled. Of course, there's a registry hack for that, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't run 10-year old programs that dont' get updated, either :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: UAC is awesome, many people turn it off because they don't want to understand it
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: only time UAC has bothered me is when it doesn't pop to the front
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: don't complain when a website screws up win 7 cause you had UAC disabled
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've never had a website screw up my computer. I'm smarter than that. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I think that is the purpose of the UAC, to stop all other processes and make you do something about it.  Its a good thing for most.. though Its always the first thing I disable on a new computer. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, I did have to stop it from dimming the screen because that was making something crash.  That's the only problem I've had.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i disable the dimming too
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: smarter than teh computer or the website ?    hopefully both
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just need that sandbox for IE...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first thing I disable is the touch-to-click for touchpads :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i suffer from fat fingers as well :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I got a new laptop.. and it was so infurating to be moving the mouse and clip the edge and it alt tab for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I didnt realize what was doing it for a few days.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i still use a real pc... so no win 8 for me
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: win8 runs on normal/real PCs (wouldn't be my preference, but it does)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes it does, it's just the UI that sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: you guys use linux?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i like a pc that does things
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: I have used it for 10 years now, I always ahve a dual boto machine
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: boot lol
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: personal OS preference is NetBSD > MacOSX > Windows > linux :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i c ould see daul booting or vm'ing linux... but i have no need for nix only apps
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: Santher linux can do anything that windows does, just no software to buy for it lol
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just no software doesn't equal can do anything...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no linux can't do everything windows does unless you like sticking with old games...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so far fiance has been using win8 with the start button addon and i don't think she knows she is using win8
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the old Folder's Crystals test
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you figured a way to disable that metro garbage?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err Folger's
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya there is a download for it
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: they have Linux software such as Gimp that is great, Codeblocks, Sun Office etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: still really dislike how they play hide and go seek with all the technical settings
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: you mean linux, its all open, you can download teh code, change it anyway you want etc
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is some software, in defined categories...that's still not the same as does everything
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well unless win 7 suddendly bombs on me... i'll be sticking with it...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and no, he means W8's simplified interface
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: ok I will wait a few years for win 8, usually takes them that after releases  long to debug it
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: linux doesnt hide that stuff, it encrypts it and then divides the key into several different websites
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: wait for windows 9
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or don't bother
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not really liking office 2013 either still seems buggy
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah or gimp yourself with linux
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, plenty of places still using XP 10 years later...I think W7 will live on about as long
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: for sure abe
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the business peeps are fianlly upgrading to win 7 as needed...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya was glad hp didn't force me to go with w8. thankful for downgrade rights
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, started a new job recently...they still have Win Server 2000 boxes
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme comforts you. 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: running production stuff for clients like CVS and Staples
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Okay, so after repairing bad sectors, running Avira AND AVG rescue CDs, I still can't log into windows (lsass.exe status code 0) ... I wanted to retrieve my product key from XP home, but since I can't actually get into windows, none of those programs can run properly
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any way to reverse engineer the key out of the registry? I'd like to have it before I start running repair mode :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: did you check the bottom of the computer?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Friend built it :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So there was never a code attached to the computer...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: will it boot up in safe mode?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: No safe mode either, just says it has to re-authorize windows, but even when I say okay, it starts counting down to shutdown
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Use a linux disc, you can recover the registry key from the windows partition
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I have knoppix live so I can access the registry
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Cheezburger beat me to the answer yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I don't remember the exact location but i'm sure google will
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: knopix will work beautifully,  google the location of what you're looking for and you're good to go.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol so older than my ml310
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gpo for drive mapping shows it is working in both results and modeling but doens't actually work. server08r2 xp and win7 client anyone have any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: anybody in?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Better to ask the question.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: When I am viewing a long pages (like more than 1 page long) it will show this --> [ Paging : (Enter), (T)op, (Q)uit, (B)ack, (R)efresh, (L)ast, (A)ll ] right?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have pagesize set to nonzero, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I press enter and it show the rest of the pages but at the end a You' don't have that message pops out. It happen just today when I just log in
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: turn on echocommands
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: find out what you're sending, then it's more trackable as to where it's coming from
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I turn it on but the message still come out whenever there's more than a page to view
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What are you sending that you don't have?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you turn on echocommands you should be able to see what you're trying to send, it's  nearly impossible to debug what's going wrong remotely with out more info than "it's sending something".
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: This whole process would be a lot easier if someone would've just sent me a Win7 Pro disc and license :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Mushambo, are you a student?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: You can download the iso for the disc legally, it's the key that costs.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm not suggesting this by any means *cough* but piracy is really easy.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I have a disc that's anything from 32 bit starter to 64 bit ultimate windows 7
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: technet subscription ftw
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Dreamspark for students ftw :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Not student, used to have like 8 legit keys for XP but I just can't find the box
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: how much is dreamspark?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's a way for free/discounted microsoft products for students
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So there's not a real 'cost' if you're a student, if you're not a student it just isn't an option.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nice free is better than $150
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a cost for OS downloads, it's just paid by the school rather than the student
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I kill something and after the message ayla give me gold from the corpse, the message You dont have that show again. It happen just today, yesterday everything is normal
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, 'paid'. It's a deal to both parties.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vesuviou, that's why you should have "echocommands" turned on
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will tell you what the MUD sees you sending
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Vesuviou I'm not going to keep repeating myself. Turn on echocommands and tell us what is trying to send.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Vesu turn on echocommands it will tell you what's being sent to the mud.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which will tell us where to look
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you can't help us, we can't help you
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have a script which is sending something to the MUD...we can't even guess at what the script is if we don't know what's even being sent
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echocommands won't fix or stop the message, you'll still get the message...but you'll also get the message "You entered:: gq info", where the part after :: will change according to what the MUD sees you entering
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ok this message ---> You entered:: put data and the line below ---> You don't have that pops out 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well have you been creating any triggers at all?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you aren't carrying anything called "data"
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and something in your client making you send "put data"
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: so what do I do first to rectify tis?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: have you tried creating any triggers at all?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What plugins have you installed?  Any new ones recently?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: plugin yes, trigger no. I install the container slot (automatic sorting) plugin yesterday
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Its Container Sort, not slot
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahhhh
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you have Bast's Plugin EQ plugins, then the Container Sort plugin by Madcatz will crash MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I know from experience.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I only have madcatz
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just a warning, if you use the Bast EQ plugins, then you cannot use the container sort plugin.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: no bast but yesterday aft I install and play, no such message pops up. Only happen today
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I mean I only install madcatz container sort. I did not install the bast EQ plugin. So what do I do now?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I keep seeing this message
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Well, the first thing I'd do, is uninstall/disable Madcatz plugin.  If the message goes away, then we know it's that, and the next step is why.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try going to file ->plugins, selecting madcatz's and clicking reinstall
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I keep seeing This You entered:: put data and You don't have that 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I think it's not the Madcatz plugin because I remove and disable it but still this the message persist..How do I check my trigger?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Guys, I think i found out the problem. I created an alias p put and aft I unalias it, no more message
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Good deal.  =)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Thanks anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahhh, it was actually a pretty new plugin (one of Fiendish's most likely) which was causing the issue...the plugin is a prompt fixer, which sends "p data" to see what your prompt is currently set to
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It sends p data to execute?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: rlly? So indeep it was the alias p I made for putting that is giving me the problems. I really thought I have to reinstall the mush again, lucky no need to
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Phew! Had to copy the Windows/System32/Config folder onto a USB, along with Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder, to a working XP machine
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What do completley non-technical people do when their computer stops booting like that? Pay the $100 at some repair shop?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: more like 200
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Most of the time.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I just ask people I know who are good at tech stuff.  Going to computer shops around where I live is the equivalent of burning money.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I fix computers, and people will bring them to me, saying they took it to geek squad and it worked for like 2 weeks then stopped again, and they paid over $100
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well thankfully I have this lil thing called aardwolf mud to ask people :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nodi think geeksquad is 150 just for a phone call
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Although to be fair, I still don't have it working, but at least now I can do the repair install with some confidence
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Btw, guys the where can I find the Bast EQ plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And father is faculty at UTexas, so worst case scenario I'll get cheap Windows 7 from there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Vesuviou, finger Bast for the link to his plugin page.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Excel question: Say I have 5 columns of data. I want to put those 5 columns into one, separated by slashes (so Height: 5'6"/Weight: 143/Age: 27/Gender: Male, for example). So... how would I do that?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd use a macro and use VB for the logic, personally.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: that's a simple concatenation
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'd personally select all, copy, paste into atext editor, search/replace & paste back
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just cuz I'd be done with it before I looked up excel's syntax
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I'd concatenate
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm familiar with the syntax already though so it amounts to the same
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 6 secs start to finish
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Side bar: if you don't already know it, it's not worth learning.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Really useless in fact. Had a job in which i needed it once, never again had use of the knowledge.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: see, the strength of an individual is being able to know how to find said answer.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: You could also save as csv comma delimited, and then find/replace in txt editor.  If its on a large scale.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks, Xaeris.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's a lot of steps for something simple, styx :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, no need to save to file, just copypasta
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: because building a macro isn't?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd just execute my execute macro using =exec() logic :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copypasta makes it already tab-separated when you paste to editor...search tab replace slash, select all, copypasta back
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Guess I've never pasted from excel to ANSCI before.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, damn, I can't type
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do it all the time :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: handy for getting rid of formatting and formulas, leaving just values in a table
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: If i want to make a trigger on the value of a variable.  is that possible.   ie. #tr {est} {Things} makes a trigger on the variable est, not the value of est.  This is in CMud.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: well the 'est' was supposed to be @Test
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd assume the trigger would use the value of @Test not the reference. So it would work, until the value of @Test changed.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: yeah.. @test changes.  I'm trying to keep from having 100 variables.. guess i could just script to remove the variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Add a single trigger, less strict trigger and do a #if
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: meh that wouldnt work.  not sure.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What exactly are you trying to match on? I'm almost positive there's got to be an easier way.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What machine is this?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I'm trying to make mob subs for the areas i level in.  IE.  If wanted to rename "A bumblebee lands on you." to "A bumblebee." makes it easy to see.  I created an alias to ask for A, and B and to create the #sub.  Only currently the trigger uses the variables instead of the expanded variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: enable a trigger on the roomchars tag, use that trigger to compare string and area to a db of known subs, and then do your gagging and echoing
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: then disable said trigger on the closing roomchars tag
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Tried arch? I've rarely ever heard of arch incompatibility.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: jesus, mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: how did i not know about tags roomchars
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Magic?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I suggest you type "tags" alone
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Doze for gaming obviously, Arch for dev.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: seriously, i fail
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SuperJayT snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: looks like you gotta turn off this channel, too, Cheez
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or just stop carrying on so many conversations :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: oh cool, found a pod cast that might be cool..junos as a second language..SIXTY 2-3 min clips... WTF
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lmfao
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Come with a test in each? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: is there a playall option i'm missing
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: kinda new on the podcasts here.. damn ipad
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd kill for 100% room name cps :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: seriously? I'm just done.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh wow...good timing on that gecho for grestore
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: A windows 7 pro upgrade disc would allow me to do a clean install on that partition right? 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Using XP now...don't want to just 'upgrade' over the existing files though
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you're using the disc it'll be a clean install
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: You can install over the top
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Upgrades aren't installs.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Windows will create a Windows.Old file on the root.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: All your data will be in there.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Compressed, iirc?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: But it'll be as if I never had XP loaded on there, in terms of not transferring over any old extraneous junk?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: assuming i choose the option for format and install :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, it'll be clean
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: You'd have wahtever you installed.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The .old file is for users only, not the machine
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marxem Tech: some older programs may not function since they are not actually installed even if the files are still there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Right, you'd still have to reinstall programs.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: But you could copy the data files over if you wanted to save something
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Like accounting information you don't want to lose.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marxem Tech: it's rather useful to have them in there for that reason
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: It saves your documents and settings folder, program data/program files and even your old windows folder.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marxem Tech: though if you have financial information you really should be making an external backup
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Data recovery is the whole purpose of the archive
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Keep everything else on a separate drive :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Although I'll have to remember to backup my Skyrim and Dishonored save files from C first
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: when one uses findroom in the mush mapper, does it only look based on room name or does it include further limits (ie, level and area lock limits)?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And it shouldn't matter that my current XP won't load...if I do clean install from the upgrade disc?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: the sql statements indicate it's just a sql match on the name. Unless there's some buried logic further in, I'd say just the name.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper doesn't care about area lock limits
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I hear S&D adds some level logic though
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can do room searches within particular areas with stock mapper commands
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ie mapper area versus mapper find
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: I cant seem to find the small map window on my mush client , anyone knows what is wrong?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: If my client is slowing down could it be because my log file is huge? and How does one create seperate logs, is there a way to do this automatically
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: In MUSH
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: get a SSD
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: no clue what that is, I just wonder if it would lag the client
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it always ran fine on my 2 ghz single core sempron...
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: I'm on a really really crappy laptop
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: steady lag or?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: alt+enter/logging for logging settings
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i know the mapper automatically backs itself up too...
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: which version of lua does mush use_
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's*
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: please, i have a problem with MCCP. I use Zmud 5.5 and the menu choice is different from that of the Help. What to do?, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I still compile :P
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan, getting an early start today :P
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What chipset you running?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger sighs.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faeseelie comforts Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pringles. Chipset is definitely Pringles.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: tt++ on linux is the more powerful granddaddy of cmud/zmud, robbo
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone a GPO guru? cause i am having the strangest problem with a GPO showing it is applied in modeling and results but not actually being applied. server08r2 
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: can i create shortcuts for spells, like a screen just for skills and spells?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: What you mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: like you have a screen for ur map and one for ur stats
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: a seperate window showing your spells?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: exactly but to be able to just click on a skill to enter it
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: ah, so more of a window with a shortcut with your spells?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what for ?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, for spellup purposes there are spellup plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: so i dont have to type them repeatedly and to be able to use multiple spells in 1 battle
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: well I don't know how. I was just clearing your question for others. I think you must have a plugin for that. or you'll have to code one
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: for spellup you can just use spellup command
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: for combat spells I assume
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: he wants a window displaying all his combat spells. so that he can click on it. and it will cast the spell
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: wouln't it be quicker to use reqular mush aliases?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, you can just do: c nova monkey;c nova;c nova;c nova;c nova and simply copy-paste it
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or press up arrow and hit enter
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: mouse driven combat might be nice for those with carpal tunnel
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what tunnel?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: i think its hand related problems
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: i know but what if i want to cast eg. 5 different spells
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: like a debuff and a few different combat spells
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: cast spell 1; cast spell 2;cast spell 3 .etc
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could map numpad for that spells / skills
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: can i use the trigger thing?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean rather alias
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: i think so
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: It will work. but not really be effective. aliases is your best option here. unless you can code your own plugin of course
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: if only i was a coder
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: can't fiendish code something like that?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: how can i use aliases?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: but alias is your best option. see help alias to find more details
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better define one in mush, you have limited number of aliases mud-side
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: is anyone on this chan familiar with java script, and Unity3D?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slipperdan Tech: how do i keep my last command on the input bar after each return?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slipperdan Tech: running aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: input, commands, auto repeat last command
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: up will take you back to the last input you put in
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: or what he said
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: hit alt enter to get to that window
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slipperdan Tech: Thank you Mokg.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: is dreamweaver for web design worth it or is there a better or equally good free software for the PC?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: free? thats like 500 software..yah its worth it
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: maybe wordpress
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: or maybe not equally as good but close enough
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: i'll check out wordpress. ty
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: does mush not understand how to "enter" things?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Be more specific, what are you trying to do?  How?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I wanted to go to the inside of a log. When I go there manually I have to "enter log".  But when I do mapper goto ROOMID it says it cant find a path there
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You have to add it as a cexit.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: mapper help exits 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Is there a particular Linux distro that is 'better' from a Live CD vs. others? in terms of speed, windows compatibility, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: linux Mint seems to be fairly well stocked on live CD
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: It is even better when installed, the live CD is very well done.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: persistant USB!
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Yea, linux mint is great for that
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: heh.  I'm kinda in the same boat... been semi looking for a "live USB" that I can basically boot and run from and keep changes and ....
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Run from an external USB HDD. Will be s bit slower, but will work fine.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: 32 gig usb 3.0 thumb drive
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you only need a 4gb flash drive really
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Corsair survivor?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To do a full install of e.g. ubuntu, you need a bit more.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So since I still haven't fixed my XP problem on my PC, I could run a live cd/usb of Mint or install it completely on a new partition of my hd1?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But hey, 15 years ago we ran linux from just a 1.4MB floppy....
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Any of those would work.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: using a patriot supersonic flash drive...      heh.  yeah, I remember the days of the SLS Linux
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: if you have XP / potential HD and data issues, don't re-size and create partitions until you get the disk checked / fixed... you might lose data
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: fortunately, I knew enough to at least set up a second drive for almost all my personal files, worst case scenario is that I lose some saved game files on C: 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmmm...anyone have experience with Mint\Debian vs. Mint\Cinammon\ ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: The linux mint debian version is debian with many more features, the ubuntu based version is better than ubuntu, never used cinnamon
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ubuntu based version better than debian*
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: If I want to create an alias for mapper find and mapper goto, what do I need to send it to? Execute isn't working
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know whether the audio chip in samsung galaxy s3 or lg nexus 4 is better?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: augen: define isn't working
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Using the very first search criteria I stuck in there when I use it anytime after
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: using in alias mf *, then mapper find 1%, tried without the alias as well, sending to execute
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: er tried without the wildcard rather
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: if you're in mushclient, * picks up the wildcard, %1 places it back
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: not 1%
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: ah, maybe did it wrong lemme check, or could have just written it badlyhere
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I've made many a trigger and alias on my old mud
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Stuff that woulda got me nuked here.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: That was it, thanks, not very good at this sort of thing obviously
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Nice, glad to help.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: and thanks for getting back to me Fiendish
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: anyone knows why the small map window is missing on my mush client?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Muds that allow what's considered botting here are dead or dying, for a reason.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: was just thinking that... you're here aren't you ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Oh I caught plenty of flak for it.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Try 'mapper show' Parmendies.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Most of the reason I left, everyone shared the same leveling zone from 80-100 (100 was cap) and there were a total of 9 mobs there, with slow respawn.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If the mud tells you that's not a command, you'll have to re-enable (or reinstall if it's missing entirely)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he said "small map" not sure what that means
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: not getting any
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Parmendies: can you clarify "small map"?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: size is somewhat arbitrary with resiazable objects
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: i have the map with font symbols but not the one where I can click on the boxes that auto run for me
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: show me a screenshot please?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: how can i do that?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which part?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: send the screenshot to u 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: email
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or put it online somewhere and post the link here
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: ok read it online...its a map mini window...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: maybe the new version doesnt have it
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you press Shift+Ctrl+P do you see Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper in the list?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then, again, please show me a screenshot
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: okie dokie..ill send it ya when i get back home
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how long from now will that be?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: anyone using  gmcp group getting any lag? I have it not updating for up to 7 min at a time.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i get the message "Could not load eqdb(aaa56faed92ffc6146964abc) because the file was not found" when i start mush ever since i enabled bast's combat tracker plugin, any idea how to make this go away ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you download the whole of Bast, or did you pick and choose?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the whole package
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anaristos: what size group?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (but no, I never have group lag)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how do i make mushclient execute "mapper goto 30790" from an alias?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #alias {aliasname} {mapper goto 30790}
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is that mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: it did not work
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: did you replace aliasname?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: and you kept the {} there?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and you have the #alias alias ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is the #alias ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: do you know what an client alias is ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes, but ive never seen aliases defined in mushclient with #alias
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: edit your alias, -> select send to script/execute (instead of send to world)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: only with the gui or with the AddAlias LUA function
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: nah he's missing the #alias alias that comes with later verions of the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thanks egrene
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: pleasure
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: can i do in lua something like var1 = (var2 == var3) ? var4 : false
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Please don't use the ternary operator :-( It is never required, and almost always makes things more difficult to read and understand
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the ? : syntax from C
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it possible or do i still have to use if and else?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not exactly sure what you're trying to do, but iirc, assignment doesn't return a value in lua
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: == isn't assignment
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: in C var1 would be boolean
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the first =
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i know, in lua it is ~=
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: == works in lua
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes, you can use the ternary operator if you want. But you never should.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: if (var2 == var3) then var1 = var4 else var1 = false
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tech much more readable
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no it is not
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens pats Jedhi on his head.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: my first line was underestandable as hell
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use multiple lines, and indentation. Or, jump into obfuscated code languages like Brainf*** instead.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am using multiple lines. just asking if it is possible to do it quicker and more readable :P
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No coding shop I have ever worked with or seen code from allows the ternary operator, and for good reason - it is unneccessary, and makes code less understandable.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It tends to find its way into a LOT of open source where the people are using it to be 'clever' instead of practical. Clever coding is dumb.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so it is not possible in lua_
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I just said it was.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: First result from googling 'lua ternary'...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: Please, i have a problem with MCCP, anyone can help me pleade?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: Please, i have a problem with MCCP, anyone can help me please?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you will never know unless you ask about your problem
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone know how much data is used when playing on the mobile aard client?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Will depend greatly on your verbosity/spam settings
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I haven't benchmarked it, but using it to for smoke breaks, and whatnot never comes up too much.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But tiny, compared to web browing, images, videos, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type mccp to see how many bytes was transferred
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I have a 2gb data limit, and I've never topped it. And I do lots of streaming (mostly over wifi) and mudding (mostly data).
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you find yourself going to much over, i'd make an alias to turn down spam settings (help spamreduce)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Never hit my limit. Used to have unlimited, got dropped to a 2GB limit and never even come close.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol, with 2GB you can play forever. 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Around wifi too much, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Then turn them back to the preferred settings on the client.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: in 3 hours i've had 400kB sent to me
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok beautiful thanks guys 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: ah Trachx your answer is for me?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: for MCCP
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: please i lose 2 QP every quest.. for MCCP
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Brutius: Your only option is to get a client with mccp or a proxy that enables it. Period.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Otherwise pay the toll for using extra mud resources.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: i have zmud 5.5
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: have you tried aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: no.. is better als zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is written for aardwolf. comes with predefined mapper and other goodies
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: If you really want to stick with ZMud 5.5, you can use Duckbat's Proxymud.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But not sure why you wouldn't at least upgrade to a newer version of ZMud.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: which is bad idea (sticking with zmud)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: I use zMUD... at least 20 years
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I finally switched to CMUD.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: maybe he's got a crack for v5.5   ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: just give it a try Brutius. 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I personally really dislike MUSHclient, but it's a feel thing for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But it's very popular for most folks.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is because it has mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I have a mapper provided by ProxyMUD
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: tnx to all
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Robbo, have you red what aardwolfs mushclient mapper can do?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Trust me, I've got all that.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: custom exits, search and all other stuff?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Plus the proxy provides a mobdb to store mob details.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: (locations, level, keywords, etc)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Wrote my own SnD equivalent to tie into it with very minimal effort.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: And since the proxy is not client dependent, I can in theory use the mapper/mobdb with my tablet/phone/etc. (not that I care to do that)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: DuckBat did good work on it, just wish he was maintaining it.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: It's written in C#, which I don't work so well in.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i've been digging into lua couple of last days. it seems very easy (ofcause can't be compared to C at any level)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes it can
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: they are both algol descendants
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol, from wiki: ALGOL 68  revised 1973
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: do you no when C was invented ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: after B probably
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well C was not revised last time in 73
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: doesnt change that C is based on algol
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it's like comparing humans to apes
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i hear human and chimp DNA is like 99% similar
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i heard the washington monument looks like a weiner but it doesnt mean its the same thing
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i heard cars, money, and guns are also phallic but also are not weiners
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol Flak, and we are very close to pigs as well, 98%
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: arent pigs the only other animal that sweats?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i think they get sunburn too
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: horses sweat
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: oh wow cool
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and scientist just discovered that rats smile
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone know how to start a program in the first pane of tmux in a script?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: -x isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Not on my linux box to check atm, but iirc -x will send the following arguments to the executing program
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm. Let me try again :)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, that didn't work.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course not.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Indeed.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: seems microsoft fixed there wireless mouse wheel issue yesterday... updated my driver (automatically) and now it's like the wheel has been doing speed, works almost too fast even when i set it to one line at a time, lol but it works awesome in mush now... :P
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol 'microsoft fixed'
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if only there was another company that made keyboards/mice/controllers like MS does... but i guess it helps when you have military funding to back you up...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: keyboards? one of the best keyboards I ever used was chicony
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh i'm still using an old compaq keyboard... almost as good as the old ibm ones...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: I have an oldschool Lexmark mechanical, works great.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but for mice i'ce used nothing but ms for the past 10 years same with "game" controllers... though atm i'm using an old gravis gamepad...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the gravis beats the snot out of logitech
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you get a trigger in zMud to activate after another trigger again? I have a trigger that automatically casts "remove curse" whenever my saff shows myself as being affected by curse.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I also have a trigger to re-cast "remove curse" if I "fail to life [my] curse", but the 2nd trigger won't activate.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on the exact sequence of events.  You can use a multistate trigger, or you can have two single-state triggers where one uses #T+ to activate the other.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you multi-state triggers?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do I just go into the "state" tab and add the 2nd line?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As in line 1: the 1st trigger + response, line 2: the 2nd trigger + response?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Summoner Yuna.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alrighty, thanks.-
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: each individual state is like a separate trigger with pattern and code, if I recall, there's a button or dropdown or something in the Edit Trigger window that lets you create a new state
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or you can do #TRIGGER {First trigger} {response};#COND {Second trigger} {response} from the command line.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Which one is "better", Etzli?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the ui is usually better, since the command line will parse any variable references and cause you to edit what changed in the UI anyways.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: plus, there's more space to work with in the UI.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: http://tinypic.com/r/b6sjzo/6 <-- Is this correct?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, will that trigger re-cast "remove curse" if the 2nd attempt fails?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it will
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you should provide some logic for when the remove curse works the first time, though, otherwise the trigger will fail to pick up the first state since it's still looking for the fail message.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And how do you do that?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the easiest way is to do a stringlist pattern that has the fail message and the success message as the elements.  It's okay to move out the parts of each message that overlap, if they only change in the same spot.  You would then use an #IF in the code to figure out which message occurred and then act accordingly.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I understood basically none of that.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, you know what a stringlist is in ZMud, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does anything bad actually happen if I don't do any of that or will zMud just do some unnecessary work by searching for a fail pattern that won't come, ultimately resulting in absolutely nothing?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it won't crash, but each multistate trigger can only have one state active at a time.  Most state types don't have a timeout functionality to them, so when that state activates it stays activated until it triggers or the user uses #STATE or #SET to change the state manually.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Can I just add -#T or whatever the command was at the end of each state to have it automatically stop itself? Or is that not effective in this case?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that doesn't work on states, only on the entire trigger.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Darnnit.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you need #STATE to change trigger states.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: so what DO I have to add to the states?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: assuming you've already got the trigger pattern down and are using the stringlist pattern with success/fail messaging, you add #IF (%1 = "failmessage") {cast 'remove curse'}
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Let me try to work that into my trigger and you can tell me if I'm right or wrong.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oops, tack on ";#state 1" to the cast command so that if it keeps failing it will keep recasting.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... how do you work that into the UI?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And where should #state 1 go?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hanslanda? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: trying to recall, since I can't actually open ZMud anymore to confirm.  If you click on the Pattern tab, I think there's a dropdown list in the upper-right area of the Edit Trigger window to let you jump to different states and/or create new states.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you want to be looking at your second state.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No drop-down window in zMud 7.21 for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the pattern would be {successmessage|failmessage}, and you'd put the #IF command in teh code box below that.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can also do the same thing in the States tab by double-clicking on the red column to move the arrow to the appropriate state.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: technically, you can also insert the appropriate pieces of text into the States tab grid, but having the larger textareas in the Pattern tab is helpful.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... I think I managed something.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ok. By double clicking the red box to go to state #1, I got the following string in pattern: #IF (%1 = "failmessage") {cast 'remove curse'}
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So, "You fail to lift your curse." goes in "failmessage", I presume.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I.e. #IF (%1 = "^You fail to lift your curse.") {cast 'remove curse'}
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, wrong piece of text.  That goes in the code part.  But, yes, you replace failmessage with what Aard actually sends you.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... so what goes in failmessage?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And "^You fail to lift your curse." goes where?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it goes where failmessage is.  #if (%1 = "You fail to lift your curse.")...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I asked that and you said wrong pece of text, goes into code part :P
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the whole #IF goes in the next box, though, on Pattern tab the box should have a label of Script or Code or something similar.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I meant that the code appaered in the pattern-tab.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: On the States tab, it's still in the first box right next to the state # and right before the Pattern-box (that just reads "Pattern")
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So, right now, state #1 reads: Red Box | 1 | #IF (%1 = "^You fail to lift your curse.") {cast 'remove curse'} | Pattern | o | c 'remove curse'
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: move the entire #IF from where it's at now and put it where "c 'remove curse'" is.  That box is the code your trigger will execute when the pattern matches.  That first box (where you first had the #IF) is where the pattern goes.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the pattern would be ({failmessage|successmessage}) with both the () and the {}.  {} indicates it's a stringlist pattern, () indicates you want the match captured into a %1...%99 variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, and since I forgot,  in the #IF condition also needs to be surrounded by "".
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Stupid zMud replaced my entire trigger with what I was typing in the chat window because I hit some random ctrl + something trigger. Could you possibly just give me the entie string?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Like, the trigger, the pattern, what code to execute, etc.? Just give me one for Curse, if that's possible. I'll reverse-engineer it into triggers for all of my other spells.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #trigger {Spell: Curse} {cast 'remove curse'};#condition {({failmessage|successmessage})} {#if ("%1" = "failmessage") {cast 'remove curse';#state 1}}
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: paste that entire thing to the command line.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I assume I need to input the failmessage and successmessage in there? Otherwise, it's compelte?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep.  There is a further improvement to make so that you don't get stuck in situations where remove curse fails alot (ie, not practiced), but otherwise it'll work as-is.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Now I just need to get cursed, blinded, marbud and whatnot to find out all of the various fail- and successmessages.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you tried surfing the wiki's mud messages page to see if any of them are there?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: None of them appear to be there.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any suggestions on how to partition Mint on a HD that'll be shared with a (non-working) version of XP ? There's 200GB free on that drive
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if it's non-working, why keep it?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 200GB free is different than 200GB unallocated, when it comes to partitioning live...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Maybe some-day I'll figure out how to repair it...:)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if there's nothing on that partition you need to pull out, just nuke it.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: currently, I've just run it from Live CD, but since I obviously want to install updates, new packages, etc...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I've got a decent number of windows games on it...Skyrim, Dishonored, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without it running enough, or mountable from elsewhere, to defrag the used space on what I'll presume is the sole primary partition, you can't shrink that part to make a new one out of the 200GB free
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I have a separate HD where the rest of my personal files are
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: you can make a ubuntu disc you can boot from and use the partition editor in that
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes, that was my understanding...just didn't know a suggested breakdown of X GB for swap, X for home, X for root, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: meh, nowadays just use a big part
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: separating out /home, /usr, etc was from when drives were so small that you'd accidentally fill it up just with normal temp stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So don't bother splitting everything up according to a divine plan? :) Especially if most of my personal documents will remain accessible on the second drive
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Guess the initial question then is, should I just get a Win 7 Ultimate upgrade disc for $40 and write over the non-working XP, instead of trying to limp along for awhile longer using Mint, until I can get a new computer?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can legally get a win7 ultimate upgrade for $40? I have a hard time believing that
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Don't get an upgrade disk if your xp isn't working.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Campus discount..upgrade only
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use whatever you want...which OS should I use can't really be answered by us :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So I don't even need to set up a swap partition on Mint 14?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mint, I like Chocolate Mint Cookies!
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well this is Mint with Cinammon :)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cinammon Chocolate Mint Ice Cream!
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wonder if raisins would go good with that?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think pecans might
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: or walnuts
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: just discovered, that lua "class" methods can be chained
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: wow
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: any of yall try the new "mega" upload?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sounds like a trap to me
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: why?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably because the old one's been shutdown by the federal government for a year or so
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: new one is fine. its hosted out of country this time
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and because Kim's in the middle of legal action, too
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, dotcom
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its .nz
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: New Zealand :P
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thats what they want you to beleive
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: NZ now know how NOT to proceed in legal action, the snafu near brought the sitting government down.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: maybe if he'd launched quietly or something instead of throwing a SNL-type of neener-neener-you-can't-touch-me! gala...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, dotcom is the last name of the megaupload guy...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: we know Abe
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I just wouldnt rely on it as your only place to keep something important
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if I bought a tv tuner card, would that pick up over-the-air programming too or do they just do cable/satellite?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: they pickup / decode what they a designed to pickup
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i have owned a free-to-air card
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: without cable
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: is there an equivalent in mush client to turning off parsing temporarily?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can turn off aliases, triggers, and timers independently via their respective menus
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I just wanted to do a couple alias in the mud that had semi colons in them and mushclient is of course catching them as seppate commands
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: using the alias command
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: escape semi-colon like so:   ;
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: escape semi-colon like so:   ;;
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: doh
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: doh didn't even cross my mind to think escape Thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: can someone please give me a pointer as to how to change the colour of the text for chat channels in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: you can set the colors in aard directly?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: (see help colorset) or does that not fufill your requirements?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: ah yes that should do it - thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: I only just now realised I needed to make some changes as debate channel is busy and I noticed how hard it is for me to read red on black
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: anyone playing aard on 23"?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 24", I believe
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I have a 23" monitor
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 27" here
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do you make the whole of aard pan out by default?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, I have miniwindows on either side of main output
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Maps, stats, spells, group, bot
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ignore that last
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what do you mean by the "whole of aard"?  the entire MUSH window, or the main output window?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I've got some empty space on the left side, main output on left
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (and are you using aardMUSH?)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i have all my miniwindows squeeze over to the left, with a big blank space on the right for VLC in "always on top" mode
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yeah, i'm on aardmush. i mean i want everything to occupy the entire screen, without adjusting it manually
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: something like resetaard, for a big screen
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: VLC for me in my backup monitor, 22"
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i do dual monitors occasionally, but it's summer here so i'm running minimal heat generators atm
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: LED, only way to go. I had an old 32 LCD flourescent, doubles as a heater
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: fluorescent?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: don't even know if mine's an led
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I find that I have to redo my screen setup depending on the moniter size I have that day.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Any way to teach the mapper to open doors automatically?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Heck, mush does odd things when maximized and I connect to it from another computer when it runs on my home machine. Then I have to unmaximize and maximize again to prevent my status bar from disappearing.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yeah use a cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: mapper cexit open east;;east
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Noodlez: use cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Right on, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yeah Jaenelle, switch pcs sometimes so it's kinda annoying
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but you have to add all the doors independently
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: passdoor wish might be easier:-)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I don't mind addin' them
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: there are some doors you can't pass through
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Any way to make the mapper just search the area you're in?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: mapper area roomname?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: AREA?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: mapper find does the whole mud, mapper area does the area you're in I believe.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Right you are, thank you again.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Speeds things up when you search for 'common room'
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Or anything else with more than 50 hits. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a way to make Ubuntu's notify-send not display a modal dialog when I don't specify a time limit?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i think it's good
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: anyone using MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The majority
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: i need some help please :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: OK. I can google some psychologists' numbers for you.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: that would be so nice of you, but my diagnose says i'm beyond help
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: but that's not what i ment...i need help with setting some stuff in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ask your question - worst case scenario you get silence.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You know, it's REALLY difficult to help you because you don't say what ails you.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: There are approximately 194 people using mushclient. Boom, question answered.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: lol, ok...how do i call variable in alias? 
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ariable
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: @variable
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (I think)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You also need the "Expand variables" option set.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Note that Lua variables (in scripts) are different.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: i'm far from scripting
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: i want to set variable for hold items, so i can use it in all aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: and when change hold item, that automaticaly change in all aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Reading from variables was @name, I think. Writing to variables can only be done either manually via the GUI or through a script: setVariable("name", "value")
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: yeah, you'd have to make an alias click in script and do for example Send(hold itemname), SetVariable("varname" "holditemname")
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: hmmm...i'm not sure i know to do that...and it doesn't seem that ame is working
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you click the checkbox for expand variables?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: i can't find it
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in your alias definition
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a bunch of checkboxes on the right
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: oh, ok...now it's working
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: many thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: When I open zmud, it opens to a specific map file.  I do not want it to do that.  I always have to  manually open a newer map file.  Is there a way to save or set as default a specific map file?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know the best way to redirect on a website when the code that needs to redirect is in the middle of the page and not the headder?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: location()
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or from js window.href = foobar
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: err, window.location.href
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Javascript
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: if anyone knows mudlet trigger/ or general info about triggers can you help me figure out a small issue i seem to be having. please PST
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mighty, generally if you have a question you just ask it =) People tend not to reply in tells like that.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: besides if they have an answer it might be helpful to other people too
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: true. well here goes...
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i am having trouble setting up the quest complete triiger where i tell friends my reward. i am using mudlet on an ibookg4... ancient i know. but i could use a little help figuring out if i need the lua script before the send information
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: or if i can just use the multimatche[l][n] and be fine
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aside from Firefox add-ins, what have you found to be the best free SQLite Database Viewer/Manager? 
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sqlite studio
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Will give that a try then.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And thanks. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Soooo much faster than the FF plugin :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Rocky Road SQlitecream.....
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: SQLite Expert.  It's free for personal use, and from what I can tell it's both actively developed and just as capable as well-polished pay dbmanagers.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right now, I'm enjoying Studio. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Will look into the others, too.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How clean is it? :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: This is definitely beautiful, Studio. :D
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I have a regex pattern of "\x1B\[1;32m\(Answer\)|\(Question\)|[A-Z]\w+ answers|[A-Z]\w+ questions " but it's not matching correctly.  The specific problem is that for the "name questions " match the trailing m from the ansi code is being removed, which is causing the opening ' to be eaten by the now-malformed ansi code.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what am I not doing right here, since the problem isn't happening to any other form of qna channel messaging.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say what you're doing wrong is not using channel tags :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx nods wildly at you. Back away very slowly.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {chan ch=(question|answer)}
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this isn't on that line.  It's in the gmcp trigger.  Trying to edit out extraneous text from the message.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no real reason to be matching ANSI codes for that at all
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: except their included in the gmcp capture.  In CMud, at least, the gmcp trigger doesn't have to be expressly set to be an ANSI trigger as well.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regex shouldn't need to care about them...it's a design flaw if it does
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want easier-to-match colors, then you can use gmcp rawcolors... is a lot less ambiguous and a lot harder to be on the wrong side of things
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err @g, but you get the idea ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how do I keep a newborn warm?  It's really cold outside and my apartment is drafty and my little furnace can't keep up and now the baby is shivering?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Cover the extremities, swaddle, heat pack, body heat.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: set it on fire.  It'll stay warm for the rest of its life.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: seriously, though, if your apartment is that bad you probably need to just move back in with the parents for a bit.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: he keeps wiggling out of a swaddle blanket so i tried saran wrap but it doesn't keep him warm enough
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: according to old ladies the best way to warm pets up is microwaves, that should transfer to babies.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, I just stopped listening to you.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: About 3 years after everyone else did, Ixle.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: actually the problem is that my extremities are the cold ones and he cries everytime i touch him
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: kori trolls with the best of them... Hmm aren't you fire vuln and shouldn't be playing with fire?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: my apologies misspell on that Koji
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: sometimes I get a little silly, but there's usually a grain of truth in my questions so I appreciate the answers.  Thanks techies!
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I have raynaud's so my hands are always freezing and it's like i can't touch my baby
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Starling wasn't always wrong apparently.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's also probably a grain of sand in Anarctica somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: well I understand that asbestos has good insulating qualities so maybe wrapping the baby in that is the right idea.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: now you guys are being sillies
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyrainbow Tech: I'm a hipster aaaannnnndddd...... Laptops are wayyyy too mainstream...
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyrainbow Tech: I'll use my 1995 computer monitor.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyrainbow Tech: before it was cool.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so hipsters intentionally do things that are not popular? so they are they inverse function of popular?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes, for example take abelinc not using mush
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oooooo snap
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I thought that was because I'm a curmudgeon
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: look at that curmudgeon is trending on google quick hipsters switch to another word
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: hipster is too popular a wrod
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i just thought it was funny that how hipsters define what is cool for them by choosing the inverse of what is popular for everyone else
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Being alive is mainstream
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is a cool real world example of a sudo one to one relationship
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: does anyone have an apple tv 2nd gen
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just fyi they are selling for 200-300 on ebay 
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: used*
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, they're popular to jailbreak...mine's first gen (with hard drive)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ya, just wanted to let you guys know - selling then buying roku :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaerion Tech: Is there a way to lock down the window position/size on the Aardwolf client?  Or reset it to default?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I think aardreset or resetaard resets it
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That doesn't lock it
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: did I say it did?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Excuse my not-wanting-to-read eyes :P
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx tickles BobTheGreat.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaerion Tech: "Resetaard" did return the windows back to default scale.  Thank you.  :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to lock it when you find a way you like it, type "aard layout lock"
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Thanks for that, didn't know about it.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that it will only lock the included plugins, not stuff like bast's
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Will I be able to run Windows programs using Wine (from Mint 14), if my XP on that partition isn't actually working?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone know? WIll I be able to run mushclient (and other windows programs) via Wine, even though the XP partition the programs are on, won't boot?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: The windows installation shouldn't affect other programs installed, unless the whole partition is corrupt.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine isn't "running your Windows XP", you wouldn't need to have ever had an XP partition for it
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Oooh I sure hope so...but not all programs will run well in Wine, right? For instance, Bethesda games...
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ahh well I shouldve probably already understood that :-/
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient runs fine in it...Fiendish is almost always using it in wine
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I did at one point, as well.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for quite a while gammon was primarily using it in wine as well
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: It works just as it would in Windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What about complex PC games..?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Doh! Oh well, guess I'll finish Skyrim when I can afford a new computer in 6 monts 
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: What's wrong with the computer?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he can't boot XP, so he's been using a LiveCD
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Well he's talking about a new computer, no need for that just for damaged windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: You can fix that.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he doesn't currently have the capability to do so
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I'll offer my help any way I can.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: step 1, send him your media :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Been using Hirens boot cd to run various diagnostics, anti-virus rescues, etc...still kept giving an lsass.exe status code 0 error and auto shutting down...finally found an XP disc but apparently it wasn't slipstreamed for SP3, so now it just constantly tries to reboot into Repair mode
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I have a slipstream SP3 Windows XP disc
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Desktop or laptop?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I don't know for sure that's the reason Repair Mode kept giving errors, but I learned of the possibility AFTER i started 
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Desktop, luckily i have almost all my important files on a whole separate drive
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Well if you want, it's easy to just wipe it clean and start from scratch if you've got everything you wanna keep on a seperate drive.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Wouldn't take any amount of time, and I could talk you through it over the phone, most likely, even better if you had a smartphone with skype.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc he's got the data, but still wants to still access the programs
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: How long, roughly, should it take to resize down a 500GB partition to 400 and 100 ? I can't tell if Gparted is frozen or what...
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A slow drive could be 50 MB/s, so it could be 3 hours, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Up to, worst case.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ahh okay, I won't worry for a few hours then :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: does LUA have data structures like python dictionarys?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: lua tables are really the only data type available, they are arrays as well as associative maps
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure what python dictionaries are like, so couldn't reliably answer that. I know that Lua (Lua, not LUA!!) has a nice table system, though. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah trying to google it ...
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The table system?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: table = {}, table ={val1, val2, val3, val4}, or even table = {Key1 = "val1", Key2 = "val2", Key3 = "val3"}
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yay found it
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: If you want to add a new key/value pair to an existing dictionary or to change a value , you will have to use : > dict["key"]="value"
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: also, var.item is syntatic sugar for var["item"]
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TablesTutorial   "Tables as dictionaries"
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: oh, nice
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with php i have about 45 lines of echos all doing the same thing but in different ways (if the person has special access) whats the best way to condense those? throw it in a function?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Are there aardwolf scripts for tintin?  Or users of tin tin, or linux terminal client recommendations?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Definitely. Ask Ixle for details.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: He has a site in his finger with a tintin/tmux setup.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Many of the scripts were written by Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'd send you mine, but I don't script much, they're mostly aliases.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Perfect, thats what i was using, but no sense reinventing the wheel.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Did you find them Polgana?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, I'm happy to answer any questions you have. I might be linkdead off and on here as I toy around with tt++ 2.00.9 but I'll check tells and respond.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: I will install it then.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Get 2.00.8
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: fyi, im running mushclient on linux
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Scandum changed some things in 2.00.9 and I'm testing changes now.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any Python regulars in the audience? Want to know whether the concepts of private member variables and encapsulation, even if not explicitly locked in by the language, are generally used by those people using the language?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes they are used i should say
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So if I decide to implement some things in Python, 'the average' Python coder isn't going to see that, having exposed the members (and unless I use C extensions, that's the only option I do have) he can jump in and code to the implementation, as opposed to the interface?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I've always coded to a minimalist interface, to the point of using factories and end-user limited public methods, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tech should be able to
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ? He should be able to code to the implementation?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: if he calls himself a python coder and understands objects
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Coding to the implementation is bad, though... better to code to the interface - you may know it better as the contract?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: there are always retards who want to do things badly... if your interface needs to be modified he should talk to you not undermine you
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What I mean is, coding to the implementation means making use of the implementation of a package - as opposed to 'black boxing' it, and dealing purely with the interface
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran THWAPS Aliens for being a moron.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i get it
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the question is can you enforce it
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Python *doesnt* enforce it
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i mean with a stick in the meeting room
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which brings me back to my original question - I am coming from languages in which it is enforced. Breakable, but basically enforced.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: if it's going open you lost control
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I am wondering if it is considered standard practice to assume the black box, even if the language doesn't force you to
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: object oriented paragdim assumes black box
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Where do I get search and destroy as it were?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Winklewinkle and go to his website
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: ... this is incredible.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: no wonder people do cp's so fast
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: MUSH Mapper, if you set a portal to a no-map room. Is there any way to do a, mapper goto <that room>?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to ask Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you can set a cexit to go from the nomap room to a mappable room...
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: how does that allow you to mapper got <no map room>?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I could not with a room in Tundra.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: without having actually done it... 
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: do you want to enter the portal then go thru nomap rooms to a mappable room
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: other way ?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Want to, mapper goto <no map room>
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: that is defined by a portal.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The only way I can see is that you setup an alias client side and remember the alias for said portal.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: do nomap room not have a info.num  ?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: -1
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think it is -1 for all no_map rooms.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh, set mapper portal in a room with a vnum, but the alias leads to the nomap room, then use the vnum that its set to, mapper goto <false vnum>
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i would say use an alias
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: guess that might screw some other stuff up though.. runtos etc...
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, if this is the only nomap room want to be able to portal into, I wonder if you can set it up to mapper goto -1
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't use MC though so I wouldn't really have the slightest clue.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: why every command i type does it say align
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: very annoying
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tags off ?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dinkers Tech: any egghead with patience on?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: When I boot from my disc drive, an OEM copy of XP SP3 (downloaded from TPB), I get a "general protection fault" error...any ideas? I'm just trying to format and reinstall my Windows 
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: good luck with TBP
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Downloading software illegally is a good way to catch malware.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: And viruses.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I have a legitimate registration key, I just do not have a slipstreamed SP3 install disc
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So if anyone can recommend a better place to find one...
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Still illegal. And there is no guarantee it hasn't been tampered with.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Call microsoft and ask for one. Maybe they will send it.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ahh I was not aware of that illegality, sorry for bringing up on public channel
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, ianal, so it may not be illegal where you live.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya i would try calling microsoft or where you got the computer from originally
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Built from a friend :-(
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: he doesn't have an xp disk you can borrow?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would get a free OS instead. e.g. ubuntu.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I can get a Win7 Ultimate upgrade disc for $25, but I've been advised that probably won't work if it's upgrading from a non-working XP 
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: apart from legal matters you should check your hardware
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yo could have a memory error.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: upgrades are iffy even from a working windows
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I have a mac mini on a kvm switch
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And I've been able to run Mint / Ubuntu on Live CDs, but the wifi drivers are real finicky
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: even with ubunutu?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Realtek nic?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I've had issues getting realtek hardware to play nicely with Ubuntu.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: wow i remember when realtech were the easiest
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod i think last time i installed the lastest version of ubuntu i couldn't get wifi to work and then rolled back a version and it started working
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What I had to do was go to the realtek site and manually download the drivers (using a different computer) and install via usb or cd to get the *nix machine working.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: woops, that actually was a mis :)
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tried linuxmint?  it's ubuntu without a lot of driver bullshit
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Language :P
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes, I've used 14 with cinammon
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: how new is your hardware ?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: ~ 4 years...unf. my wifi is a linksys usb connector
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: Linksys WUSB54GCV3 USB-WiFi ?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: WUSB54G (no C) vers 4
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah google shows possible solutions
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Why do we need both mini and micro usb? *mumble*
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is 4 versions of usbs I have adaptors for. lol
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: because you are willing to pay for them
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple created their own USB.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Fortunately, I am not part of the apple cult, so I "only" need the 2.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i wonder who bought into firewire... and if they a blushing now
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I might need a firewire if I am to rescue anything from my old iPod 3G :P
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. Apple is no longer the most valuable company as its stocks continue to nosedive.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger . o O ( Good )
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: don't they still a ton of liquid assets?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They reported their best quarter, but their stocks are declining. Makes me laugh.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What was their profit last year again?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't know, could look it up but don't care enough to do so.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. collectively, a profit of $41.3 billion last year. $13.1 billion Q1, $11.6 Q2, $8.8 Q3, and $8.2 Q4.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's your answer.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods, and the trend becomes blatantly obvious when broken down by quarter
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: $41.7B, sorry, not $41.3.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Q4 for 2011 was $6.6 :p
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Probably the way their release cycle works.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: $36 in Revenue, but only $8.2 in profit. That's a lousy margin, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: good margin for a corporation
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: REALLY good margin
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They're spending more each quarter, but making less.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They have to try harder and harder to get people to buy the same thing over and over :P
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Comparison: $46.3 R/13.1 P. Then 39.2 R/11.6 P, 35 R/8.8 P, 36 R/8.2 P.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's by quarter, revenue vs. profit.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 28%, 30%, 25%, 22%.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's actually about normal. There's always going to be fluctuation
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: About normal, sure, but shows they're losing their value.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: A 5% drop in one quarter hurts.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i forgot how small the client was on my computer
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone familiar AVG virus scanner, know what the, ROC_JAN2013_AV File is for. It keeps popping up a window that says it cant connect, and if I should try to connect or stay offline.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: heh, avg.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: step 1) uninstall avg
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: step 2) install malwarebytes
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: step 2) install mse or avast
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I switch to avast because i had issues with avg
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: step 3) Light the computer on fire.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Step 3) install avast
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mse is the least annoying
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: use a typewriter
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Step 4) Remind the trolls why you feed them again.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Step 4) Light Delgar on fire.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: step 5)uninstall the avast
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Need one that wont auto update ever.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: step 6) install gentoo
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what is mse?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: step 7) Lawyer up, and hit the gym
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: microsoft security essentials
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: we just need to pimpslap virus coders
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: whats gentoo?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jfgi
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: operationg system, jameson
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use xp mode for browsing or at least sandboxed ie
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: operating*
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: hey, how to make a portal alias on mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ctrl-alt-8, I think.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish, go to his website...click the wiki tab, included plugins, featured plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he wrong the aard MUSHclient package and has lots of nice info there...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from there, click GMCP-enabled world mapper...there's a "more tips" section with a link to a good tutorial that goes over the thought process to make a good portal setup
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: how do I get my tierstat to be at hp
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't think that's possible.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I've been told it is. tierstat hp? or maybe tierstat durability?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is there a command to flag your current room as norecall/portal in the mapper, other then trying to portal out?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: Just wondering, are there any good mudding apps on the iPad rivalling the android's blowtorch? Also would like to get some opnions as i am currently considering to get an iPad mini and have some reserves regarding it not having retina display and its processing speed. 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "retina" is industry buzzword and a load of crap. There is at least one tablet with a higher PPI then the "retina" ipads.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a couple MUD apps on iDevices, but I still contend that it's best to use a telnet/ssh app to access a full-fledged MUD client :)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course that's easier to set up on my primary client than it is many others
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That being said Idras - why the ipad mini? If you can answer that question, will help clear up those reservations quite a bit
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my favorite access app is iSSH...not free but extremely quite featureful for getting you access to anything
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a telnet client, ssh client, VNC client, RDP client, Xwindows server in one
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it can display Windows, Mac or Linux GUI desktops, or any shell-based stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ooooo Abe.... based on the name, I can assume its an iOS app... any idea if they make an android equivlent?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shame
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: Currently, owning an Iphone 3g currently and will be planning change it to an android phone, personally would like to experience the world of android apps and also not missing out on the Ios line of apps. The price point of the mini seems to be quite reasonable though there are other android tablets there are cheaper than the ipad mini. regarding about tablets i would really like to game on it and since im attending university soon, the portability would aid in note taking and etc. 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well Idras, my.. android bias will probably come out here. But are you familiar with the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, can anyone explain why the logmein app for idevices is free, but the android one costs 30 bucks?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: unfortunately not as indepth as i would be on the ipad
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I keep my nexus 7 in bed with me :D
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: see me too!
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nexus 7 has a higher res then the ipad mini. And the Nexus 10 actually is higher res/ppi then the retina ipads. The Nexus 10 is $399, which is only slightly more then the mini, the Nexus 7 is $199. 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, the bottom tier of them. You can get more storage / HSPA+ modem in them and it'll raise the price a bit. but same for ipads
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Abe... Doesn't make any sense to me really - other then possibly higher marketshare for ipad - so easier to absorb development costs if it will bring them more users vs a smaller section of android users
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i cant upload the plugins since it kept saying check the output, what does it mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: upload plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes, i have the plugins in the right folder and etc yet I cant upload it into here
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: hmm you do have a point there. Daloran
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: bast spellup plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have the entire bast folder?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: I added all of them then it said cant upload
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no uploading plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: in that case, size wise i would be looking at either at the padmini and the nexus 7 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: import?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've heard from developers that the IOS platform is easier, since it is more homogenous. Personally, I would never develop for a platform that requires me to sign an agreement before I can start writing code, but that's just me.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click add
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: there's a problem uploading file
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: its what I did, and it kept coming like that
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you left the plugins inside the bast folder, and put the entire (unzipped) bast folder into MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: most expensive nexus 7 is $299, and has an HSPA+ modem in it, if you wanted to add date to it
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: data, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i read that set up a new folder there under name aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't make a new folder, just unzip "Bast" and move that into MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i think i know why
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to remove (chan=blah before the channel itself)?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: tags channels off
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Don't suggest that Zetkax, if they have other scripts that rely on other tags, it could hinder more than it helps
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: um thats what i do ...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, if you're seeing that, then you're either not using the aard client (in which cast Bast's stuff won't work), or you have issues with the aard client's included plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: im back on my old baby zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: mushclient wont work, it wont upload any plugins says there's something wrong with each one plugin i uploaded
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: just saying, bad thing to tell people ;x
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you load fiendish's zmud channel capture script, it will use and gag the {chan ch=foo}
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: im settled with my zmud, and ive workedo n triggers/alias/variables since it came out and been my best friend for last 11 years
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: so trying the mushclient cause people kept telling me its better than zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: so now mushclient won't load any plugins and im stuck with what I get so Im coming back to zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's even better when using tags properly
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: I used Zmud for 8 yrs or so as well.  I have found the transition to Lua more difficult... but a well set up Aardmush mapper and extra scripts (like winkles) and its just soo soo nice
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are tags-enabled zmud scripts by a few people
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i dont mind to use mushclient due to campaign mostly but apparently it won't let me upload info like gainstatmonitor.xml, bash-hunt.xml and bast-spellup.xml and it kept saying can't upload need to check whats wrong and Im so "dumb" when it comes to check whats wrong with the lua
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where did you put them?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i put them in worlds/plugins/ and yet it wont
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: extracted straight from bast zip file
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't take them from the zipfile...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you absolutely must put the folder itself there, intact with all plugin files still contained within it, even the ones you're not using
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: hm ok
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Where can I get the gain monitor seperate?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: anyone have any suggestions on what java class to use for drawing simple diagrams? A page I found suggests JFrame, but just wondering...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: what kind of diagrams?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I want to make a grid and colour them based on some data I have.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: just need to draw rectangles and fill them, that's all...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: you could use JPanels in a GridLayout
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: noodlez: depends on which gain monitor you're looking for
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: and just set the background color on the panels
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: thanks, I'll look up JPanels then...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: have no clue as to what JFrames and all that are, heh
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: Crashed earlier and just restored my system, regarding about my question for tablets earlier, have looked on nexus 7 and it is appealing to me. But in terms of support, are there many apps catered to the tablet in ther android market? 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Idras.. depends on apps for what.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There are some. certainly not as many as for iPad
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: Daloran, currently is your nexus 7 wifi only or a combi of both 3g and wifi,
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Does anyone know if one can download a pre-explored map for the MUSHclient mapper?  I can't goto places I haven't seen yet :-\
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Idras, I haven't picked one up for myself yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can use other players mapper database, just find player with good database 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn smacks Getsuko out of his boots with a sign reading "EXPLORE !!"
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I've been debating the various options for quite a while
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Redryn :P tbh, campaigns can be so tedious without mapping :-\
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Getsuko, tbh using mapper without having even seen the area before feels like botting to me
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I guess I can see how you feel that way.  But I like to explore while I'm leveling and doing goals.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: i see, im guessing i would be getting the wifi only version for the nexus 7. Anyone who owns a nexus can shed some light on this? 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Idras... Shed some light on what?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i have a wifi only nexus 7
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i think you can get hspa ones on tmobile or att
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you need mobile data on your tablet? If so, do you have a smartphone you can tether it to? If not, do you have HSPA+ coverage in your area? Thats about what you need to know =p
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i am on verizon, yes i tether to whatever
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I meant Idras, Noc
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: err, through smartphone
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: oh sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That being said - you still on the unlimited plan? Or are you on the new plans that include the tethering
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: i do have a smart phone (iphone 3g) but its getting really buggy and slow now surfing the net. Will be upgrading to a newer phone though. 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Idras.. you're familiar with the concept of tethering, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: yea i have unlimited but tbh i dont really tether all that often
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhh fair enough.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: I have read up on it but have not actually done it before 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: i figure with wifi i pretty much can get my programs and files into the nexus.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, basically, the only reason to get a tablet with 3g/4g, is if you don't have the option, or if its too expensive, to tether your smartphone for data. IT allows you to buy a seperate sim card/data plan for your tablet. Or if you have a GSM phone, you can swap the sim card between your phone/tablet
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you don't need to have data everywhere - theres no reason to pay more for the 3g version
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: right, that much is understood. Thanks Daloran =)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Np. Sorry if I'm gabbing too much
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: nah its fine
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: oh, is it possible to locally download an app from google on your computer and transferring it to the nexus? 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You can sideload, but theres no direct way to download apps from googles marketplace
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: if you gmail yourself the apk file to your gmail and open it on the gmail app it should give you an option to install it
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: .... gmail
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Noc.. that doesn't allow you to get the app from the market place though. you still have to have the apk in your posession to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: I misunderstood, yes you are right
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: plus, if you have wifi to get email, you could just download the app from the marketplace anyway =)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So... maybe random question. Anyone know of a pretty basic flip phone, something like the old motorola razr V3 that would be able to sync with gcal/contacts?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Flips are terrible
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But there's this samsung pretty popular atm
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Superjuicy Tech: I remember when flip phones were the newest and coolest things imaginable.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The Razr V3 was pretty good, vak. If outdated, even when it came out
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: C3520
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Flip is terrible because they always, ALWAYS wear out the cables in the hinge.]
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why they can't just use rolling contacts I have no clue, but flips are 90% of my mobile RAs
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shrug. Never had that problem.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just looking for something small that I can pocket easily.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nokia 3310
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Get one of the pocket galaxies
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: pocket galaxies?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 3310 not a flip phone =p
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Would fit the bill, if it would sync with google though
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: what file are mapper portals stored in, i want to purge my portals but want a backup copy with the portals. in mush client,that is
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's in db that mapper should automatically backup for you
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper backup -> copy backup into new location for safekeeping ->purge portals
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is it possible to diable the mushclient auto update feature?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: disable*
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devlyiik Tech: I think so, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ive looked at the plugins but cannot tell which is the updater
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devlyiik Tech: Did you check the aardwolf web page, there is some information regarding the plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay will do
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is it aard package update checker?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Does anyone know if the Blowtorch version of Aardwolf is able to have the MUSHclient Mapper and database imported?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Blowtorch has a mapper plugin now?!
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They were working on one at one point I was reading.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That's insane :P
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: There's a database in the MUSHclient? Do tell.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Do you have the aard package?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Then the mapper plugin should come builtin
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is Aardwolf.db in the main directory.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: ...giggity
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I got the client from the Aard site.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: then as you explore you db builds
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Very nice.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Have you ever seen that window with those colorful squares connected by lines? That's using your mapper db :)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: -your
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya, thats the one you want Anihfi. it has mapper right? mapper roxxorz
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and if you havent read it try mapper help
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: So,l I have that very nice mapper plugin, status bars plugin, stats plugin, and the map plugin. The one seperate from the database one. Only thing that would make this the best thing ever is seeing my Armor values and weights  and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Now, anything else I should know about this client, or is it all gravy?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I think Bast has something for that.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: armor value isn't that important, but there are plugins for equipment database
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I like seeing the value is all. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I'd like a dual head video card and two monitors so I could spread my windows out a bit more
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Only two?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want total stats and/or total damroll, not resists
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo has 3 on his Radeon 6950.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: didn't want to be a total tech geek
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Oh, I'm proud to be a geek :P
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I can see my hit and dam rolls, plus my saves. I'll take just a weight tracker and eq database plugin.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast for a ton of complementary plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anihfi nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Thanks for the help making this an even better experience. Seriously loving it.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Ok, so my folder for this game is sitting in the downloads portion of my computer. Where exactly should I move the folder?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Usually this type of thing already happens, but I'm not seeing it anywhere besides that folder. Plus, I found a mini window for my inventory.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: do you mean where should you move the game folder to?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Yes. The folder that contains all of this. I want to move it somewhere safely.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaerion Tech: Anihfi, if you're referring to the Aardwolf MUSH client, you can move the folder wherever you'd like.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaerion Tech: Just remember to recreate any shortcuts if you've made any, so they point to the new location.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: you should be able to move it freely with no issue. Just close Mushclient, move the file and reopen Mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Ok. I'm going to move it over and get the plugins. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: This is weird. I have the window for eq and inventory up, yet it isn't registering what I have equipped or what's in my inventory.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure tags are on, and invmon is on
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: There it goes. I added the invmon plugin and rebooted the client.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Any other plugins you guys and gals suggest?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Huh
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I don't exactly know what happened, but when I stood up, my eq just got appraised.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Probably your inventory plugin you were just talking about
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It does that too? Huh. I have the DB plugin installed, so it could be that.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: But it says broadcast in some of the names.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: the _broadcast seem to work like listener plugins for the rest of Bast's plugins to interface with.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Ok, it just spammed identify <numbers> worn.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you said you were using my miniwin_eq plugin? If you mouseover an item, it will identify it into a second window, so it isn't spam
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It does a second window, which is nice, but it shows it in the main window too.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Hmm. I see the problem. If the EQID window has disappeared due to me accessing a lower portion of my eq list, it shows it both in the ID window, and the main window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: So, I'll go through my eq list seeing stats to a degree, then get low enough for it to disappear, and it does it both places.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll grab stats on stuff in bags when you're idle as well
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Hmm. To be honest, compare does what this does as well, only it doesn't spam my main window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can change what it spams, and no compare doesn't
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Where do I go to do that? I want it to pop up in just that window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Actually, I want it gone. I don't need it right now.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Ok, so this is troubling. I found the plugin that pops up the stats for whatever eq I highlight in my window, but turning it off also turns off the window updating when I remove or equip anything.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I'm considering removing all the plugins I've added, rebooting, loading just a few, then rebooting again.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They're the same plugin.. The plugin controlling the window also controls the eq stats. You can't get rid of one without the other.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Then I need to know what I can modify to where it stays in the popup window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You'd need to learn/already know how to modify plugins. And modify the source code.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you actually seeing the output of the identify command, or are you just seeing the "identify <serial> worn" in your output without the entire identify?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I see "identify <serial> worn", then it fills my output window, if that's what the main one is called.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It pops up the side window, which is what I want it to only do, but it also fills up this window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "eqdb set" and what is the variable showoutput set to?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: False.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then it should not be showing that to you. Does it do if each time you mouseover the same item, or just once?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Does it for every item, every time I mouse over it.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is your pagesize set to? type "pagesize" to find out
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: 24
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't know why it is doing it for you. It doesn't do that for me. Try looking here: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Troubleshooting
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: checked for %c?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the new client should do that automatically
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should only do that once
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It shows what you said, the "identify <serial> worn" when I mouseover, but upon subsequent checks at a certain speed, it'll just pop up the window with it's stats.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Is it possible to block it from showing in the output, while still getting the same effect, or is it tied to both the miniwin and the output one. Also, I want to assume output = main window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but does it show the entire identify output, where you see the stats of the item?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in the output
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Yes. Shows it in both places.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Right now, I moused-over my worn items and had it added. So, right now, it doesn't do it anymore. It'll pop up in the miniwin like I believe it should.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Of course, between now and the end of this whole thing, there's a ton of eq to wear.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: again, it doesn't do that for me, nor have I had any other reports of that happening, so I don't know what to tell you
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: man, glad you're not at the other end of the line when I call tech support for something real Bast.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anihfi chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: you call tech support? lol'd
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: maybe you should let your husband fix your problems next time, no need to call tech support
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it's hard to troubleshoot something when you can't recreate the problem, it works for everyone else
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx peers intently at Legendary Gruagach.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It's fine. Eq flows at a nice pace to where it won't be a hassle for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: My husbands dead and I live alone with my wife!  Techsupport is needed!
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How does one enable Unicode support in MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: think it'd be enabled already if it's supported at all
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Odd. OK. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Huh, this is even more interesting. The EQ database that I'm building up by highlighting all my items? In the notes, it reads that I'm starving and dehydrated. (I am, so heh to that and all.)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It's for the Bracers of the Believer.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you believe you're starving and dehydrated?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I know I am. Since it only affects healing, and I'm not doing anything right now, I haven't remedied it.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: is there a way to define custom macros in mush?  (ie control-H)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: look up accelerators
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as with most MUSH questions, it's answered on Fiendish's site
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: okay thanks -- all i see are alt-blah in macro tab
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient, wiki, client guide, macros
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: thanks!  I'll check out his site
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: What does autoscan do?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where'd ya get it?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I would expect it sends SCAN every time you moved.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wherever you got it should have an explanation of it
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Its in a script file, but if I just type autoscan it toggles on/off which makes me think its aardwolf specific, but there is no helpfile
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "in a script file"...where did that script file come from?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's client specific Pol
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: It scans every time you move a room... As stated.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanslanda thinks helpfiles are so overrated.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: man autoscan: AUTOSCAN(1)             User Commands              AUTOSCAN(1)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NAME      autoscan - Generate a preliminary configure.in
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: anyone uses bast potionquaffer plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do!
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how can i get it working to notice my jades in potionbag?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: type pquaff help
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I created a trigger for that.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ive worked around it, ive put all info there and yet it screams there's none left in the bag
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type pots
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ive typed pots
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: it looks in my bag and there's potions there
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: then it says none in any of it
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: type pquaff list and what do you have as Mana Description
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i changed pot to power and still come out none pots left in heal/mana
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: why do i see "[string "Trigger: "]:2: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value"
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: some trigger is broken
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: it happens every time i complete a quest, my Sharptracker from opo does it
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the string for tier bonus was changed i think
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ahhh. editing time.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: well, it still reports back but with a minor error with the main qp earned amount, see:
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: Quest completed:32secs 14+a 3tier+2mccp=16qps 3652gold.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: the 14+a is messdup
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the "a 3" instead of "3" is probably being added to a table or something
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: most of these tracker scripts calculate total earned over a period and stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh hey, that quest didnt count the +3 tier,your right
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: only counted the 14+2, equaling 16, not 19.   no +3 tier added
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: looks like the message was changed from "I am giving you 3 quest points tier bonus." to "I am giving you a 3 quest points tier bonus."
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmmm,ill see if i cant figure out how to edit it,im bad at this tho
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it also means the script is really badly written :P
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh awesome, should be able to edit that. thank you, thos lines help alot
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i did not write it, its from opo
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i never said you did
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i know. i wish i did, would mean i actually know how to write that kind stuff. lol.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but if he isn't using proper wildcards in his patterns, the triggers are open to abuse
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wouldn't use that script if it's accepting an "a" into a field that should only be numeric
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: do you know of a mush client plugin for tracking qps/gold/levels and all that jazz.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: bast has one
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ahh there we go,his are written good it seems
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: anyone using search and destroy plugin? If so, how can I get it to move back on the screen. Its stuck upper corner
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xset reset
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: its not working
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: did that
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: there thank you :)
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems last update has broken quest complete message so sharptracker stopped working for tier players
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for shose using this plugin: there is addidtional 'a' in tier bonus line: I am also giving you >>a<< 2 quest points tier bonus.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that was noticed earlier
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h tier
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I should always check history 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: im using winkle's SnD plugin and i forgot how to set channel to so whats the command?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanted!! Criminals Tech: anyone know how to set variables with mush
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: <variables>  <variable name="VAR1">0</variable></variables>
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanted!! Criminals Tech: hmmm 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: can anyone tell me why dont the mapper i set up for eb dont wana work on my alt it shows i explored but it dont runto the room'
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you using the portal functions ? if so, are they the same for both chars ?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: also, does the speedwalk run through a level locked area that your alt might not be big enough to handle?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: when you say "doesn't work", can you elaborate... error messages, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: not actually error message it just shows where the mob is and room, im using winkle S&D btw
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: how can i move the gui from S&D the thing is past my screen and not able to move it lower
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: could anyone please tell me how to manage this?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: heya is there a problem with mxit users on aard?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well yeah, but not one that the tech channel could solve }:>
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chimeishio snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seriously though, yes, there seems to be an issue with the gateway
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least from the fact that "clients" shows 0, and that probably shouldn't be the case
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: so mxit itself is having problems that sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: perhaps Mxit finally did turn off the gateway like they said they were going to do a year ago
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno for sure which side the issue's on...only 1 person could answer that for Aard's side
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has usually been on their side, and they had announced way back when that they were going to drop aard support but it never happened...do you know if "nobody got around to it" or if "we changed our mind" back then?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i remember all that it caused a big stir if they closed the gate then they are a bunch of jerks they get payed when mxit users play
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the fact that I can't get mxit moola in this country prevents me from connecting to aard from mxit...costs 500 moola per month
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Why would you want to connect via mxit?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you wouldn't connect via mxit anyway, you've said many times to connect via ssh to a computer running a proper client
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can come in handy
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the same reason that I have aard mushclient and mudlet on my computer
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: despite only playing through tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and that reason is.. to trouble shoot for others?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: im a mush fan its the best for aard
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, it's definitely on mxit's end, I can't even open up the aardwolf section of mxit
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally in mxit I can open up the aard part where it then tells me that it's 500 moola...and when I try to click to enter, then it tells me that I can't get moola
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now, when I touch to go to aard, it says your message could not be delivered.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: thats what every mxit player is getting now i think mxit upgrading something or they closed gate
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts looks at RoqueWarrior and goes "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: how much bandwidth, connection-time, resources, did mxit mud-users use compared to mxit non-mud users -- may've been an economic decision
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: little difference in the way of resources compared to non-mud users
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mxit users did, however, smell bad
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: may also 've been a behavioral decision -- mudplayers are not supposed to operate heavy machinery while playing
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a known fact, like most of the basis for left wing manifestos
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as opposed to the 30 non-MUD adventure games, chess, battle, tixi
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would you like a game of chess?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: mudplayers are not supposed to jaywalk while looking at a small screen
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i liked playing from mxit i did a tier on mxit
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are chess players supposed to jaywalk while looking at a small screen?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the games I mentioned were part of mxit
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did you know that "not liking social media" is considered a mental illness?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and mxit exists on PC as well as phone
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: bandwidth is really cheap, at least in the amounts needed for a text based game
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: decent chess players calculate their moves mentally -- with brief looks at the screen
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they don't
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: then I am mentally ill, TN
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you me both, sir
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to a high-level chess match, pay attention to where they're looking
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did you know that distrust of government is also considered a mental illness?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if a chessplayer is unable to play blindfold chess, they likely won't reach Grandmaster (but there may be exceptions (merely so i am not as right))
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Chess-computers may be killing international Chess, unless they accept that some players are going to use chess-computers while playing
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not "as right"...you're fully wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: embrace the "cheating" -- may improve the game
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, watch a high-level chess match...they're not spending their time staring into space, looking around the room, looking into each others eyes, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: so?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: thats what I do on my free time
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're concentrating on the board
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if i were able to play blindfold chess, i'd be a Chess master
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ranrr: his point was that, unlike other phone-based games, chess would not present an issue with looking at the screen while performing other tasks because "decent chess players calculate their moves mentally -- with brief looks at the screen"
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I think Ranrr's point was, noone cares.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did anything come of anonymous's latest hacks, or was it more pointless hyperbole by a bunch of wannabe's?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same as usual, change a webpage, promise stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: while concentrating at the Chessboard in a complex position, the eyes fix on a few vacant square as the eyes glaze (with yet some peripheral viewing) and mentally contemplate mental positions
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "the eyes fix", yes, which was the thing that you were claiming didn't exist
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chill out folks, the chess was a reference to the movie "War Games", not an invitation for a pointless debate
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wasn't
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Are you new here? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wargames was the second chess reference
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish places an X in the top left corner.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chess was an example I cited which mxit has as an optional game
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a small screen is not a 3D chessboard -- the (mxit) chessplayer shall also be using *peripheral* vision and thus be more aware on the enviroment
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as they would with aard
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: omg nobody cares, take it to tells.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your claim was that they might have removed aard as a "safety measure" because people wouldn't watch where they were going while playing
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I just got here. I don't know if I don't care yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: you don't, believe me.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as a recent UK radio personality has just demonstrated (by walking into an icy canal), texting on a phone can make you entirely oblivious to what's around you
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish doesn't believe you.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: despite leaving 30 adventure games, battle, tixi, chess, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: nope, aard-mudding is far more intense and attention-consuming than a chessgame - the eyes are too busy reading to drift to the peripheral
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Dude, chess is intense. Can
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Dude, chess is intense. Can't deny that.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would need way more brainpower to play chess than to play aard. 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you have little concept of multitasking...I often watch movies, text, jerk off, etc while playing aard
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: to be honest aard on mxit is a lot harder then on a pc spam kills
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Thanks for that image, Abe. :(
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my pleasure :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Isiro sighs.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: I didn't need to read that.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you did
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: I think we're all married to Abe now..
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Man... Zade is REALLY boring! 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faeseelie falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: is it best to lube up before doing all that and playing aard abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we are?  Sweet!  Thanks for bailing me out of a really bad situation after a really bad night in Vegas, Abe!
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only valid in Utah, though
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: who cares?  The main thing is that I didn't go through with the Vegas one.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: can anyone tell me how to set up bbsh
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: anyone able to help me with blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: What do you need help with?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: i wanna use it for aard but i need a display name,host name,and port number
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok wtf is going on, if i type out a speedwalk it works but if i set the speedwalk (copied and pasted) to an alias it says 'sorry bloood you cant do that' ??
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it hates you bloood.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: and you dont know that infornation?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: information*
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: what information
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: how are you connecting to Aard now?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: mobile broadband
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: some aard app i downloaded in the android store 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: the aard app uses blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: but I've got the newer blowtorch version
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: and?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: if you need the info to setup another client, you should check out the Aardwolf page or wiki.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: and thats the one i dont know how to connect with 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmmmm. What happened to the MCCP quest bonus?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: was there on my last one 15 min ago
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: MCCP got messed up somehow, type "mccp" is it on?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: was there on my last one 5 min ago
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Am I missing something? http://pastebin.com/cYPMeiPu
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Check your qps before after next quest.  Are you gagging it somehow?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Wait you are gagging it
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: 13+2 does not equal 17 :P
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You receive 17 bonus quest points from your daily blessing.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mccp qps?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: yep 2 qp each quest bonus if mccp (bandwidth saving) is on
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: must have client that does it
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmmmm, I don't think I gag that message... I'll check it.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure looks like it tho
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nearly certain.  Based on what your pasted.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Only way math works.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Omg I know, must be my chat capturer.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: man, you must be really bad with trigger patterns
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, I'm trying to move from MUSHclient to Mudlet
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: or a plugin that summaries your quest stats into a different channel
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Tried to make a trigger that captures also remote socials, but it's overzealous.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Cizra, just use the one in my finger if you are using mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No. Mudlet. 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well use the concept then :), check for space and right color of the *
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, you officially suck at patterns then :P
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Dagnir, care to explain thy offense?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: none given
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just boggles my mind since rsocials start with *
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, so I tried to capture everything that starts with *. Turns out it's way too much.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but mccp message does not
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did you escape the *?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Of course I escaped it.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: was it * matching everything... not the actual *
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And I have no idea what the MCCP line looks like, as it got gagged or something.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but gagged by what?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you were saying it was the rsocial trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No clue what exactly got it, but I suppose it must have been that.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The trigger pattern was this: ^
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: um
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The trigger pattern was this: ^BACKSLASH*(.*)$
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try * if that doesn't work for you
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, [*]
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Dagnir, I don't want to capture things starting with * anymore. It eats TOO many things.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you never know with some regex implementations
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And it works well, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Too well even.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so what's gagging your mccp messages?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and what else starts with an asterisk?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's no * in the MCCP bonus message
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I don't know what's gagging my MCCP message. Despite numerous claims on that, nobody's pasted one here.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You gain an.extra 2 quest points 'MCCP Bonus'
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (added the extra . in there)
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What else starts with asterisk? For example, Lasher's notes.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, and it ends with a period.  Didn't paste that
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you shouldn't have triggers on when reading notes
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Thanks, Leinei. Thanks, Dagnir. That sounds smart. Will have to get it into a habit to turn triggers off manually.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that would work, but a smart person would use triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, notes can contain note-ending trigger material. I don't see how to make this foolproof. Also, I'd need to loop over all triggers except the note-ending one, record their current state, etc...
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't even know how my client is set up to handle notes, but it has been working for many years
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, still surprised that there are no note tags
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Most probably, it ignores them.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Notes can contain note-ending tags, I'd suppose...
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can just match on your prompt for a note end.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: My prompt is usually empty :-) I use it for quest notification.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh. can't find my note killing triggers. just a lot of cryptic looking regex i have written over the years
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it awesome when you can't read your own code any more
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: SetOption('enable_triggers', 0) disables triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and SetOption('enable_triggers', 1) turns them back on
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Doesn't actually change whether they're set to "on" or "off", so you don't need to loop through and record that
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: That depends on your MUD client, Leinei. I contributed the Aard Note Mode plugin, which uses exactly that.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh sorry, assumed you were using MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Still, it worked for note _writing_ because it was announced over GMCP. Doesn't work for note reading.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anyway, sleepy-time. Bye.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Okay, my Windows XP saga continues...I finally just went with formatting the drive and trying to reinstall a fresh version of SP3 ... With two different install discs, I get to 53% and then it says it cannot copy over the file ... Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Superjuicy Tech: I forgot XP existed.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yup, install w7 from an usb stick
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Happens to be a file that also wouldn't copy over when I was trying to do repairs
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: clean the disk
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: or do win 7 usb
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Literally brand new disc
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: shitty
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Im reading verious forums, some of which say it could be A) Memory, B) Heat of the drive...those make sense to anyone?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you using a 50MB drive?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: 500GB :) Sata
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i get the statdb window to open for bast?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: statdb doesn't have a window, miniwin_stats does, the command for that is "mstats stats show" and then "mstat stats front"
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in regex, if I need to match on a proper-case word (ie, "Ted" but not "ted") and it can sometimes not be there, would the pattern be ([A-Z]\w+)* or something else?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I would use ? instead of *
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and * instead of +
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That would also match all-caps words, so you may want to be more specific than w, too
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: \w, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all caps is fine, it's just that ansi codes end with a lowercase m and they are usually adjacent to text words.  Just \w would also match on that m.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why *, Fiendish?  If that uppercase letter appears, there's always going to be more letters following, so wouldn't + be appropriate?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: A
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are single letter words 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose it depends on your purpose
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: true, but I don't think player names are allowed to be that short.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I didn't know this was for player names
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's a reasonable assessment, then
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What does the UG after Youtube in the newest version of the logo (on the site) stand for? It just appeared one day and seems to be ungooglable.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I don't see it.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Strange, I do (upper left corner).
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It might be region-specific
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: so I have bast's moonbot turned on...and it was working fine earlier. but suddenly it stopped showing up. i reset it and it says it works, but.....
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I suppose if you reset it it needs to recapture the moons again so it knows where in the cycle it is.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as far as what Aard actually tells you about the moons, it's really pretty basic, so much of the "power" of such plugins is done clientside through calculation/manipulation of data.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: yes, I know....but I'd still like to get my pluggin fixed 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: and look at that it's working.....
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you perhaps move recently?  Depending on how it's getting moon-state updates, you might have been in an indoors room when it tried the weather command.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: is there a command to show the events mini-window from Bast's plugins? If i accidentally closed it, for example?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should come back when there's an event that qualifies
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page on bast's site about the plugin will list the plugin's commands tho
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim gallantly tips his hat to you. 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/miniwin_events#Installation
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: anyone got the patience to help me with triggers and buttons?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: any blowtorch experts on?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Usually not a waste of time to go ahead and ask the question, fwiw
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Usually a waste of time to ask to ask.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: always*
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's what I meant :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: sorry...how do i make triggers and what can they be used for?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, I'll assume you know *how* to make a trigger...you click 'Triggers' in the menu, fill it in, and presto!  New trigger.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What they can be used for is a bit more complicated.  You can have them send text directly to the mud, you can set a variable, and probably several other options.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: actually i have no idea what to put in where 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: it asks for a name and pattern 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Name is just a name for the trigger.  Pattern is the pattern that you want the trigger to match.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Once you fill that in, you can add responders (actions to take when the trigger fires)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok so i understand the name now,but not patterns
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: pattern is where you want it to be send to ie gt/spouse with the line you want it to
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: pattern is the text you want it to match on... "Your eyes glaze over." or "## You start to feel thirsty." or "You see the white moon rising in the east."
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you've got the "Interpret as literal?" checkbox checked, then pattern is just a text string.  When the mud sends that string, the trigger will fire.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: or "You raise a level! You are now level *."  (which will trigger for any level, assuming that * is the wildcard character for blowtorch)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: so if i want it to post 'quest' on gt i'll put 'gt quest' on the pattern section ?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: no, put that in the responder section
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Looks like it uses PCRE, or something close to it, so d+
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: \d+, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the pattern section gets ## You may now quest. or whatever the exact line is
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: uhh whatsoever a wild card
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: what*
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: a wild card character is one specially coded character that matches any one or more characters... For example, You are now level *. would match You are now level 2. or You are now level 36. or You are now level 160.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also called a blob
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: but that's a comp sci term and not often used outside ofthe field
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As wild card is more commonly used to replace single chars, as in b?g, where the wildcard might stand for a, e, i, o, or u
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: so after i've filled in the name and pattern section i need to choose a new action,but it gives me 3 choices..notification,toast message and acknowledgments and acknowledgments with.which do i use
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What do you want to have happen?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: in terms of triggers, though, Vakieh, you usually end up using blob-type wildcards for many of them.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Is there any way to merge two map databases? Example I reinstalled the client, had no maps, explored a bunch of places, but then found my old files on my external HDD, which have my (as far as I know, more explored higher level zones) old maps. Any way to merge them without losing what's in one or the other?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Based on the examples, it looked like if it wasn't literal, it was PCRE
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Wha?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: a message to be posted when i can quest
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Noodlez - unless you want to edit either file by hand, probably not...
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Nightbird - you want an alert when you can quest, or you want to send something to the mud?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: dunno if it works in sqlite, Noodlez, but most database programs will let you join tables...I'd have to think about the SQL statement to do it with unique rows and all
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: sounded like he wanted it to go to gtell
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Day the Nightbird nods at Laughing Lacrimosa.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: best to ask fiendish
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think it's probably possible
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: How often can one find Fiendish to talk to?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: fairly often
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can also write him a note
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: any plugin that will show repop message for mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The plugins won't do it, but direct access to the sql could without tooooooo much issue. Could get fiddly though
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, Fiendish would be the guy to ask about the mapper stuff. He's on regularly, but I'd suggest writing him a note explaining the situation and asking him if you can arrange a time that you can pick his brains
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Nightbird - If you want to send a command to the mud (e.g., gtell QUEST TIME), you want to use the 'Ack with Responder', and put what you want to send in the blank.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: There used to be one, Tryllus, though I'm not sure it has been updated to include the newest areas
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i dont mind to add the new arae repop
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: just not in mood to start from scratch *inno*
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks,so what would the other two options be for
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I know I found one somewhere, but I don't recall where. I CAN tell you it's out there
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ok, been looking for it
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Notification response would send a notification to your notification bar.  Toast Message would float a dialog box on your screen for a short time.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: anyone know if basts statmn save the info it tracks if i close mush client?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It does, same as mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: a quick google of "mushclient aardwolf area repop" brings up this thread: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6565
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok thwnks for the help
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: hehe, im on that site now looking and thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks*
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: NP - good luck.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: those are old, some of the areas have been redone, but the base functionality is there at least...though I suspect it could probably be done more efficiently now with gmcp
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I want to start playing WoW but I need to know which data bundle package to choose and how long it will last
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: IT WILL EAT YOUR SOOOOUUUL
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And aard has first dibs on that
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: your data plan will last until they release a second patch, and then it'll be screwed.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: come on guys. be helpful
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I don't get it
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: if you have a data plan usage limit, WoW will eat it
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wow's patches/updates will destroy it.. especially if you're downloading digitially, and not installing from media
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not for game play, mind you, but for patches and updates
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: guild wars 2 is the same way
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: okay, lets say I have 1 gig and I plan to play daily for three hours. how long will it last
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Suppose it depends on what you mean by data package.. as in gb/month, or as in mbps =p
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Arikhan... 1gig a month.... you'll be able to finish install the client in about 2 years.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: per month
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Im getting it now. I think
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Yeah it's huge.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the client itself is like 6-7GB
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: No shit
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Language
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it's quite a bit larger with xpacs/patches
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think all said and done, current install is something like 36GB
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: checking though..
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I better get it on my media then than playing it from the internet
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Patches are always via net afaik
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: 1GB might last you 2-3 days of gameplay, but their smaller patches are half a gig now
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: they redid the file structure, it's a little smaller
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And they go for what, 100meg-2gb depending on severity?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: at the beginning of pandaria (last i played) my install is 19.2 gig
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: you guys are shitting me. You have to be rich for this 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And again language
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Or American
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: There are seldom data caps here.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I get 26mbps unlimited data
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pondering Penthesilea Tech: tech is a nocurse channel, careful please
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: for like $54 a month
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Here in Au we have data caps - faster speeds than the average US, local anyways, but the caps sit at like 200gb+
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: That's a reasonable cap.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: There goes my dream of playing a mmo.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: It sickens me to see a 5gb cap.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Risking opening a week old can of worms, Aard is an MMO :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You mean anually right?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: US internet providers reserve the right to limit data for caps, but the landline providers cap at like 250GB.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 200gb annual? Lolno
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: no, not an annual cap, monthly
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: oh that's annual?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, 200gb per month
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Yeah, that's what I thought
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I have 1000mbits for around $50 a month, does that make me cool )?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh, joining late, you must not mean cell service.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I could go for 1tb, but I don't hit the 200gb even with prodigal tpb-ing
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Even then - most providors won't bust your chops for exceeding the quota unless its consistant
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, my mobile is not capped
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: There's a 'fair usage' limit of 250gb, but they don't enforce it, I hit 430gb one month.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the only caps I see at 5GB or so are like the netzero stuff or wireless data plans
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Exactly Daloran
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, Au usually automatically shape
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Breach the cap and you go to like 256k. Better than it was a few years back, would shape to 64k
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: ouch, 64k a few years back was painful...at least 256k you can still play most games and be reasonably competitive
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: eh. being competitive is more about ping then bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The only time I hit the caps is when new VS gets released. Update VS and SqlServer and hello 50-100 gig
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: what crappy providers do you guys have that limits data?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Every Australian isp in existence
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and nobody really cares about you hitting the caps for a new version of software
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pretty much every american ISP as well, though not to the same extent... canadian as well, from my understanding
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I'm glad I'm not in australia then :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Ashiya, most American ones do too, but the limits are high
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's like 250GB a month or something usually
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Again, they are all automated - not about convincing some asian call center to let you by, automatic hit the cap, shaped network
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I'm glad I'm in sweden then :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. i pay 24EUR monthly for 100/20Mbit uncapped and unthrottled fibre, phone and tv
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's usually only the wireless (cell) data plans that have small caps...those are usually like 5GB or so, though you can pay for an extra 1GB at a time on some
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that would cost me $120USD/mo for the same service from the cable company that services here, Dagnir
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: January 2013 (Incoming: 335151 MB / Outgoing: 869844 MB) :D
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: heh, seeding much? :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a seedbox and use private trackers exclusively
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: peak months are around 1.6TB
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, i hope i'll get gigabit soon :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: What's the command to lock/unlock the aardmush windows?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: lol son of a
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: with the bast statmn plugin, it shows GQs, and under "Tot" or totals,it says 1, but i have not joined a gq. does this mean there was a gq i couldhave joined, and its tracking them as well??
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any python programmers out there using pydev? Recommend a base Eclipse package to pack the pydev on top of?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LadyFate Tech: can someone please help me set up a bbssh client for aard?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: can someone, please, help me with triggers in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Extremely unlikely to have mind-readers here.. You might get better chances if you tell us what's the problem, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you read this: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: i have read help in mush, but didn't help much :/
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: What kind of trigger are you trying to make?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: problem is that i try to set trigger for disarming...i put * DISARMS * to trigger get weapon, wield weapon
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: but doesn't seams to work
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: You could try getting Bast's plugin package that has a disarm plugin already made if you'd like. Be easier at this point.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a proxtube-like extension for videos locked to countries other than the U.S.? I wanted to view certain U.K-only videos, for instance.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: triggers probably need regexp and not glob as well. Dunno if mush supports glob matches.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mush is glob by default
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok. 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: glob by default and can specify as regex
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: MUSH is anything but user friendly
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Spiridon, did you ever use Zmud?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: Depends on the person. I've had an easy time learning with it. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it was less so in some respects, more so in others
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: no, i used tintin long time ago and AL client
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: Faeseelie: you are smart person :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: Oh god no, I'm easily frustrated and dumb as a rock when it comes to anything remotely coding. xD 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: I'm pretty much dependent (and thankful) on Fiendish and Bast. 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: me too...not much of a coder :/ but what frustrates me is that i fail to do something that should be simple enough
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: where can i find girls hanging around this game
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: .......Not on tech
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: wang channel
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody rapidly nods twice at Sobeit, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: sounds legit
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: they on the wang or gossip *lol
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faeseelie sighs.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: in mushclient, how can I change the color of tells to something brighter?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: LSD? 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: don't worry about mush
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: try the colorset command
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: alt 8?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can change the colors of ANY channels there
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: oh awesome. thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i actually didn't know that thanks as well :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The heck? This region-locking of videos stupidity has gone too far. An AOL video about the discoteque fire in Brazil is region-locked for the U.S. only. Whut?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: welcome to drm
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there any Chrome plugin for unlocking region-locked videos that isn't just for tricking Youtube into thinking you're from the U.S.? Because there's plenty of videos that shouldn't be region-locked that I want to view that I can't because of, I don't know, locusts or whatever the excuse for region-locking news videos is.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doubt it
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you need a proxy server
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: http://www.labnol.org/internet/youtube-blocked-video-not-available-in-your-country/2680/
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: proxy never hurts either though
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i can't get basts planes mobs plugin to work.. it appears fine but then when i do 'plookup mob' it just says 'None' every time :( can anyone help?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: it always used to work
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you reloaded it?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is there a way with the mush mapper to show how many areas are in a room? Looking for a way to compare it to the count in explored
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: WHo has a Blackberry? I want to know if its ideal to use BIS for MMORPG games
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Yeah. How do I make all the communication go to the communication log window and not appear on thae main window
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: right click in comm log i think
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I still dont get it
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: can someone give me a script to make global quest announcements for my level range to go to a different window....or the communication window?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I still recieve all these messages on the main one. 
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I right click then what
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: sec I don't use mushclient but i'll boot it up to check for you
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: right click in comm log -> echo channels -> customize echo list
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: who wants to play poker?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra killbans Arikhan.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Ill take that as a yes
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Who's up for strip poker
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra juggles three Arikhan's channel rights. Oops, dropped one.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Should there a specific speed of my internet connection so I can play WoW
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nothing is fast enough to outrun it eating your soul
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: lol. huh?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: He's being classy without screaming DONT DO IT!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Please help. Don't worry. Im not that easily addicted
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If you don't do PvP, you won't suffer horribly from a slower connection.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: So any speed is good or what?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: The patches are big, if you don't really mind it taking a bit for patches to download, you don't need a massively fast connection
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: 3-6 megs would probably be good, you might lag up a little in raids, but nothing that's gonna get you killed.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: And the install itself is huuuuge.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: What is a patch? 
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Update
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: How big is the game? Should I buy the game on cd or download it?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Updates for?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: game balance, content, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: And the thing is, the game installs all of the expansions, whether you have them or not, so if you get just the base game on disc, it's gonna take ages to patch and update, but if you buy it all at once and install them off disc, it may not be as much to download.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Then again you can buy keys online and download it all offline, with no physical medium (what I did)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: If you don't have data caps, I'd say buy it online, once you register the keys, they're attached to your account, so as long as you don't forget your login info, you have it forever.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Meaning DON'T FORGET YOUR LOGIN INFO
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Where do I buy the keys and download it(offline). Send the link please
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Can't download it offline, that makes no sense, but uh... let me look.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: slap
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Sometimes you can find it on sale, best bet is to just buy straight from the blizzard site.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Don't say, let me guess! I guess... I guess the next request by Arikhan is for Noodlez to finance buying it!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arikhan seems to be waving at flies.  What's he up to?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: You in America?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: South Africa
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Ok hold on
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Trying to see which store you should buy from. They have North American ones, Europe, and Japan
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I don't think it really matters, you'll just have to find a good server for you, with good latency.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Is there any Mmorpg just like WoW but free to play or doesnt need you to download patches.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: MMOs, by nature, will need to push content to you. They will all be patched.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Any online game is gonna have a lot of patches pretty regularly, but there are plenty of free ones.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Which ones are free?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Look on Google
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: One off the top of my head is called Runes of Magic
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you can type in "free mmorpgs" and get 100s of results
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: http://www.mmobomb.com/top-10-free-mmorpg
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Aardwolf is a free MMORPG :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Aard is holding my attention pretty well. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Heading to bed, do your reading and find something that intrests you.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Thanks!!!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: quit
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: I keep getting a runtime error in bast sharptracker anyone able to help me with it?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is anyone considering openstack to replace vmware?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can you use lua table in a trigger pattern
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Elaborate?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No, but you can create triggers dynamically.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want a combination of 2 tables
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but not sure what's best way to distinguish between the two in the pattern
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: something like (a1|a2|a3) (b1|b2|b3)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so it needs to be (table1) (table2)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it could be something like ^asd (.*?) (.*?)$
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it doesn't seem like it'd be efficient
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmmm I was about to ask how to install ndiswrapper without an internet connection, but now I see that supposedly it's already installed, along with "mintwifi" and my Linksys inf driver...yet I still can't connect..?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Hey
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: HI!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mis, sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: bast, any idea why my planesmobs plugin wont work? it just says 'None' each time i search for a planes mob
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: let me look at the code to see what None means, I will get back to you
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok thanks :D
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: if I wanted to save my aliases and totally whipe out everything else on my aard mush so I can reinstall - what is the specific file in the aard folder that holds aliases? 
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: the world file - i suggest looking at the upgrading instructions on the aardwolf website :)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: you can save your aliases when you go to the aliases window in mush.. the extension is .mca
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: and for triggers it's .mct
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: then you just load the aliases into the new mush installation the same way you saved them
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: if you're using aardmush, you can export your alias' & triggers by clicking the save tab on the alias/triggers window.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Anyone have any idea why I send an object in PHP of type CreateUser to a SOAP server (php/apache lamp) when the server see's what I've sent it's no longer a CreateUser type object but instead a stdClass object?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Somewhere between $client->__soapCall('CreateUser', $creatUser) and when it's seen by my function CreateUser($mixed = null) function, it has lost reference to it's object type.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: try printing something from your object just before you make the call and one immediately right after you did (the returned object) .
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: run an assert to see
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I printed out the object prior to sending, it's a CreateUser object with the 1st parameter being a string, the second being a CreateUserType object (as it was defined) but when I do a log from the server, the first instance of the object is a stdClass instead of a CreateUser.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Here's where there's some more detailed info: http://tinyurl.com/b5hpz5q. If you can answer in 20 minutes I'll gladly award you the bounty :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: i'll try
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: take a look at http://php.net/manual/en/soapclient.dorequest.php . Do you have subclasses that is overwriting? if not i would suggest going for 1d array. 2d can screw up pretty easily. i dont see why the array is not parsed the way it shd be. but take a look. i dont need reputation :/
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Unfortunately a 2d array is required
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: it is part of the requirement or can u share what u are trying to pass here and we see if there's an alternative to it
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The soap items being transmitted back and forth are complextypes, so they have to be multidimensional arrays
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm, I notice Microsoft does MCP-branded merchandise nowadays, is it worth purchasing any of that to try and impress at interviews? like the MCP branded A4 zipped portfolio for example
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Hmmm... I've not heard any of it before. Then again, the 'impress others' people here tend to go apple. P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in gsub
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if the search string has some symbols, how do I tell it's a literal string
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so shouldn't be used as a regex or whatever
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mush on usb stick ftw :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Massacrer Macbeth nods at Santher.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone play marvel war of heros?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli points to Gametalk.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i forgot about that channel :) my bad
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wasn't meaning anything other than you'll probably get more answers there. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea but that was about as bad of me as using tech for gossip lol
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sqlite really doesn't have a bool datatype?  Have to set 0 1 as integers?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: I use TINYINT(1).
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah apparently as soon as any type of int is read from disk into memory it's automatically converted into an 8-byte signed integer so really no point...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Why not use NULL?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Just going to have to remember 0 is true, 1 is false? Or wail 1 is true, 0 is false?  That is my problem!  I think it's generally understood any non-zero is true right?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Yeah - 1 is on, ie true.  0 is off, ie off.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, except in Obj-C :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: except in unix exit codes
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: what is it in Obj C?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: 1 is always true for me. if you look at the truth table.. it is always written this way. 1/T, 0/F
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: yes/TRUE/0 no/FALSE/1
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: err no, it is yes/true/1 no/false/0. It's been a long day :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: macbeth in unix shell scripts exit code 0 is success, so "if cmd" evals true if cmd exits with 0
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: are there any other instances where 0 is success?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: when using strcmp it returns 0 when you have a match
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: um no
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if you want to think of a match as success i guess thats another example
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: honestly that is interesting. i havent encounter 0/success. 
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's because it's pretty standard to assume 1=yes, 0=no. Some people just like to be weird :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: i assume with unix progs it's because they wanted to use different non-zero values to indicate reasons for failure
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well yeah, I meant on the matching :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Microsoft's 64GB Surface Pro will only have 23GB usable storage
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: DAMMIT. I was hoping to get one of these to replace my iPad. Oh well, suppose I'll go with a Galaxy tab.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You don't like the iPad?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: that much? for Microserf to not totally consume all resources on install... Have they learned?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: the iPad was great when it first came out, but it is seriously lagging atm
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i like my galaxy tab
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have any opinion of solarwinds dameware remote connection software?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and do you speak on behalf of the trees?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well ok then :)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: What is the command to receive time between pups outputted onto a group channel? statmn set... ?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll bet bast's wiki page on the plugin sez
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: I'm looking on it right now, but maybe I'm not on the right section
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: between the statmn set and the bottom Variables section...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so statmn set questchan <where you want it to go>
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can have different stuff go to different channels, and commlog injects it into the comms window but not sent to the MUD/other players
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: right. but wouldn't i want statmn set levelchan if i want pup info?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: not quest info
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...so in that variables sectcion that I just pointed out...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at where it says level/pup results...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the very next line to the questchan, and the one that'd make sense
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: got it - and statmn set levelchan OFF to turn it off?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno that you'd ever really want it off rather than just commlog...can try it
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: gotcha. thanks for explaining this. i do see this section, but with some basic guidance it mor eclear.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone here use bast's eqSets plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: anyone knows how to install MUSH on a Mac via WineBottler?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need winebottler, just use wine
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: there is that, but I think WineBottler can make it packaged nicely
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winebottler is more for packaging stuff...as an enduser it's more bloated really, since you're essentially having a whole wine instance per application
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I see
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yes, it's a bit slicker as it makes the whole thing appear to be native...but it's just running wine anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I see.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: today Chrome told me that it won't update itself because Fedora 14 is obsolete, with a handy link to this page: http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=95411
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Heh, I still have some machines running fedora 7 at work.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Warren would roll in his grave if he were dead and didn't hate Fedora now.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Fedora sucks anyways, so time to get rid of it. Imho, of course.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The guy who created it agrees with you.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is why he left
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Fiendish you worked on fedora?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: No, but a friend of mine started it.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: neat
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say eric would be the guy that created it
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err marc, sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The fedora project was started by Warren Togami
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I consider the history to go back much further
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: with the new changes coming to openstack, does anyone feel like it's worth displacing the cost of vmware?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: all the big IT vendors will be working on the code though
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oddly enough, the same answer I gave you earlier...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: so why not?  carrer risk to the IT dept if it screws up?  too integrated?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno why you'd think it would be a replacement...95% of what people use vmware for, openstack doesn't do
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: openstack is more like cpanel
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Jumping off VMWare now would be like ditching a big wave on the North Shore to surf in Orange County
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: is openstack a virtualization platform? Doesn't look like it.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a deployment/management platform
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has no hypervisor capabilities
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: openstack is for people who want to make their own beowulf clusters at home
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hence it's more like cpanel
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it lets you provision, but you'll still need the hypervisor separately
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: so, if you wanted to replace vmware with a open source solution, you would go for e.g. xen (which sucks compared to vmware, btw)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so might as well go to an already-established combination, xen, cpanel, vmware, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Wow, abe, we almost agree on a tech topic :D
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as far as virtualization goes, you can run vmware hypervisor for free as well
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oddly enough, there's less hardware restriction on the free hypervisor than there is on the paid one
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: thank you, very helpful
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i lost the window of bast mini spellup window, i checked everywhere on screen and even reinstalled, removed and add the plugin, i even typed mspell spellup front/show so any idea where and how i can get it back?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: and what if openstack does hypervisor in 6 months
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try bsp show
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: is the savings enough to change?  VMW is expensive!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's mspell? bsp should be bast spellup
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: npe
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: free isn't expensive
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I run production vmware hypervisor on a number of machines for free
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: has anyone actually tried Win8?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: It is godly on tablets, but on pcs....total shit
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: what makes it so great on tabs
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: watch the language...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope.  In an exclusive deal with major retailers, Microsoft has successfully made Win8 a display-item-only OS...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: here's your sign! :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: it is just really easy to use, good interface I really can not understand why it was released on desktops/laptops.  It might be ok with a touchscreen but it just does not cut it.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Easy to use on tablets*
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it was moreorless designed with tablets in mind, as the pc/laptop market is dying off and/or being sabotaged by hardware entities like Intel and software companies like Microsoft.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: On a PC, and sticking with the old desktop, it seems pretty reasonable. Worth $40.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: how would you say intel is sabotaging their market??
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I had windows 8 on my desktop...now it is gone, hate it, however on my Asus virotab it is great, comparable to my eee
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can still deposit converted trains
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: starting in 2014, there will no longer be any Intel CPU chips that use the socket-based architecture that allows for easy upgrade.  If you want a new CPU from them, you will either buy a mobo-processor package or you will break out the soldering tools to remove the old cpu and attach the new one.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I would hate having a mobo-processor combo....
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have never upgraded a CPU on a computer in my life. I just buy a new computer if I need more speed. Then again, I am not a gamer. Terminal windows don't require a lot of cpu.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: unless you're a gamer, is there even an upgrade cycle to PCs anymore??
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I do play other games, that have graphics, for most end users a new computer is plenty.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/intel-reaffirms-support-for-socketed-cpus-for-the-forseeable-future/
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, guess they chickened out.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i upgrade my pc when parts fail :/
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I do when I can not play most games from that year on at least high
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: which parts usually die first?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: disk drives and peripherals, usually.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: occasionally motherboards/cpus
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: even my 15 year old IDE hard drives still work.. motherboards however have come and gone quite often
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I haven't had one die yet
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've had hd's/PSU fail most frequently
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: did you guys see that a scientist was able to control heat conduction through crystals laced w/ /cadmium?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I have killed a CPU 2 hard drives and a disk drive
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: never had a PSU die, still useing an old one from 2003~
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wife's hyundai 425SLC laptop still works, my MacSE still works, the NIC died on my AlphaStation, but it's still processing
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cpus/mobos don't really "wear" out, though.  Usually they bite the big one because an installation mistake damaged them or introduced conditions that cause damage.  For example, installing a liquid-cooling system sounds simple enough but tighten down the screw too much and you crack the plug, letting the liquid drip on the electronics.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ugh don't get me started on my luck with NIC's seems like it dies every other month
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: My PowerPC Mac Mini hard drive went last month RIP
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If HW dies on you, you need to get some ESD protection gear.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: thanks techs
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the crystals thing sounds cool
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: is there an easy way to auto-save mush? it just crashed and i lost the last hours changes i made to my eq swapping aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, quite trivial to do
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: How do I get spell check working with mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: anyone use winkle's spellup plugin? how to add 2nd clan skill?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nundreek: File->Global Preferences->General    check "Spell checker"
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is it possible to turn off colors in GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Guys I have a problem. I need a life mission. A goal I can work for the rest of my life
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: smoke crack. then try to stop smoking crack
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: create a nuke that only targets stupid people and prevents them from having kids
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Come on guys
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: nothing will take you your entire life to do unless it can't be done by you
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Could start by realizing the difference between gossip and tech.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I use both
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Necsus I don't get it
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then use them both properly? There's your mission.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: help tech for information on what topics belong here.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: What if I start a strip club. But what would be the use of that
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swirls of Rumour Tech: This doesn't belong tech, please move it to a more appropriate channel - thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: hey guys i wanna play aardwolf at school but when i run it it doesnt connect to the internet
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: possibly blocked
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: so im thinking they may have just blocked the port
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: know how to proxy?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Try some other ports, for starters.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can you access aardwolf.com in browser?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: so i wasnt sure how to change its ports
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: i think i can access aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Port then, not domain
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: How about you start studying and forget about Aard until you return home
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: how do i port?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh this is only during lunch break when i have nothing better to do with friends except chill out in the aircon
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: so how do i change the ports aardwolf runs off
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: is there anyway i can change the port aardwolf mud is running off...
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: no I dont think so
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: dammit
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can't change the ports Aardwolf runs.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can use either 23, 4000, or 4010.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, you'll need to change the port in your client. Or you can SSH into a home computer, or barring that, use Teamviewer to remotely access a home computer and play that way.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: how do i change it between those three ports
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: i have thought about using teamviewer, but it is wayyy to laggy
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: yea mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: alt+1
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: sweet, so 23, 4000, and 4010 are the only ports that work?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The information is in 'help ip'. 23 is open to allow telnet users blocked behind firewalls. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: How do people configure this mapper for all these portals when they're dual wielding?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: nvm, portal wish
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: fml
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, aliases and variables.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: nah, it's what i said, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wat?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have the portal wish, it changed my mapper configuration by a sum total of 0. I changed 1 line of an alias, though
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Well do you have your mapper set with all your portals?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All 97 of them so far
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: What's your alias, if you don't mind me asking?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: write a script with a function to swap stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: inputting the name of the portal
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then you just make generic aliases for each area which maps area -> portal name
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Before I changed to a script which became far more complicated (but only 1 for all portals/areas), the aliases I used followed this format: get 57176502 16024507;hold 57176502;enter;remove 57176502;put 57176502 16024507;ual 763987018
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. My auto-variable expander made that far more odd :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Let's try that again.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Before I changed to a script which became far more complicated (but only 1 for all portals/areas), the aliases I used followed this format: get 57176502 16024507;hold 57176502;enter;remove 57176502;put 57176502 16024507;ual 763987018
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: you can use your SN to equip stuff?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dammit. The plugin is disabled yet still active o.0
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can use the SN to get/equip at least some things, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's especially useful with bags
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Before I changed to a script which became far more complicated (but only 1 for all portals/areas), the aliases I used followed this format: get ortalAcademy agPortal;hold ortalAcademy;enter;remove ortalAcademy;put ortalAcademy agPortal;oldItem
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I give up.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: got it, Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I mean what I'm doing now would be perfect if I had the portal wish.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Can't say that's super high on my priorities at the moment, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Would it, though? There are only a select few portals I would want to run around wearing all the time
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Not wearing it all the time, you can teach the mapper to go into whatever portal will give you the shortest path to your destination
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right, but what does it do with the portal in the mean time?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You wear it, then enter it, then what?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: then I have a trigger set to put my favored portal back on
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: which now is the alyorian academy one, later will be amulet of aard
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Trust me when I say the most elegant solution works independently of the portal wish
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: get @portalAcademy @bagPortal;hold @portalAcademy;enter;remove @portalAcademy;put @portalAcademy @bagPortal;@holdItem
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: is that right, Vakieh?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Thanks Lacri :-P I have too many 'helpful' things running it seems
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now 'holditem' is the key variable there - it holds not an id, but a whole command. Can wear a hold item, rewield a dual weapon, OR (once you have the portal wish) re-equip a higher-statted portal
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: mine's similar, though instead of the remove portalAcademy I have it set to wear (xxxxxx) so it puts my aardportal back on
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: nice, Vakieh... that'd be handy
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: how'd you manage to code that part?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: since it IS a little more complicated
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need for code - mush doesn't care if the variable holds a whole command or not - set an alias to expand variables, and then store the command in full in the variable
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can try it now - make an alias 'TestAlias', which sends '@testvariable'. Inside '@testvariable', place a command, like 'echo Vakieh is awesome'
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be sure to check the 'expand variables' box in the alias window
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: so to make a portal script that rewears whatever you just took off to put that portal on... I'm going to guess you need to catch the item you removed to a variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't capture, I just reset manually when I arrive at the appropriate levels (well, before I went Lua with it all I did)
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So for most people would go aard amulet, glad portal, kai portal.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Easy enough to trigger on, though, but capturing keywords is difficult. Could try invmon, but manual is simpler
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I'd think invmon should be fairly simple
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Who's up for poker
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, you can just capture the id from invmon and use it, just tested manually
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This again Arikhan? Surely one imm slapdown is sufficient?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Arik, seriously, keep to channel topics. This one is for client help and occasionally computer/coding discussions
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Severus Tech: will the aardwolf mushclient work with win 8?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: I had no problems with the client on a friends win 8 laptop no.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Severus Tech: cool, thanks Trisha
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Severus Tech: I'll give it a try on my desktop later on today then
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: Just put it in it's own directory and shouldn't have no problems.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Anyone have any idea why, when using PHP, i can use mysqli to bind, prepare, execute, etc. But when I do $stmt->get_result() I get the error "Call to undefined method mysqli_stmt::get_result()"
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: mysqli_stmt :: get_result is Available only with mysqlnd. ?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's included.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or not, looks like it got rolled back to our libmysql
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Anyone know how to reset your smaller windows in Mushclient? Got a mini window with the top of it off screen so I can't move it or resize it
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: try resetaard
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Tried resetaard, I guess it is another Plugin creating the window.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you installed basts plugins? 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: plugins miniwin. and work your way through there :)
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Not sure. A buddy put this on my netbook to play with. Will check it out
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mmmmm. Netbook. Which one you have? 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Just a little Dell Inspiron Mini
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: How do you like it?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I can understand netbooks, but can't see the rage in tablets
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Love its mobility. Love having a keyboard. (downside of a lot of tablets)
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just different purposes, Ontuct. Tablets are consumption devices
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: primarily, anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Don't need a keyboard if all you do is read ebooks/derp on youtube/etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: tablet plus bluetooth keyboard = functional environment for just about anything, with better battery life than a netbook
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's true too, Daloran
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. I'm with you there Lac.. but KB+Tablet is usually more cumbersome, excepting things like the Transformer / MS Surface
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Wife has a setup like that. It works for her. I like a little bit more control without rooting. Still a programer of sorts.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only issue with tablets.. at least android/ios is just lack of a lot of desktop software. It'd make them a lot more appealing if say, the entire office suite was available on ios/android. For most people, anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I just throw the keyboard in my backpack and then I have it if I want to do typing beyond a few short sentences. Typing on a touchscreen is not functional for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Google apps
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Google apps is not office.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: while it's close enough for a lot of people, it's definitely not 1:1. Also until recently, there was no offline mode for them
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: no, but it's intercompatible with Office, and 95% of the stuff someone wants to do in Office can be done there--the 5% that can't are specialized things that even people who work with Office on a daily basis don't have to use more than once or twice a month
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: True enough.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Google apps doesn't have a replacement for Onenote unfortunately. And Gmail vs Exchange... well, I'm not saying exchange is better - but it's definitely more ingrained in peoples minds
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: For those few situations, it won't work as easily, but you can still write emails/papers/etc on them.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm sorry. Gmail vs outlook. Grabbed for the wrong word.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: There are also lots of good tablet games out there, and Photoshop and InDesign and a few others have tablet compatibility as well. 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: outlook doesn't guarantee Google snooping your details to sell on to tom, dick, harry and the nsa
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: outlook is, however, awful
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it's all bloat nowadays
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Yeah, everyone seems to love Outlook...and it's awful.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. I'm not saying its a good product - only that Outlook on tablet would likely increase its, at least perceived, usefulness as a productivity device.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If they put outlook on my tablet, they better make an easy way for me to remove it, too
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa nods at Big Meaty Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: on the other hand, I love the hell out of onenote, and I really wish there was a fully functional android version.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I doubt you'd find it preinstalled on tablets any more then you find windows machines coming bundled with it
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Daloran: Evernote doesn't do the same thing as OneNote?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not really, unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Not exactly
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's a close second, but definitely second.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli has never used Onenote, and rarely uses Evernote, so... 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. First drawback is evernote requires internet access. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I hear one of the propsed updates'll remove that.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unless I'm mistaken, evernote also doesn't have a way of using stylus input
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it does, but it depends on the device running it's compatibility.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, same would be true for onenote, outside of Tablet PCs 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But heck, even if a tablet like the Galaxy Note came prebundled with it... well, if it did I'd have picked one up already
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Worth it without it prebundles, IMO
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: prebundled*
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe. But I would need the app anyway. Without it, or something equivlent, my desire for it is mediocre at best.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone use bast eqsets plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Thunderax: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So after running chkdsk and various other repair diagnostics from Hirens CD, then reformatting (full, not quick) my boot HD several times, I still get "missing file" errors from numerous .sys files while trying to reinstall XP...using four different (some original, some cloned) install discs
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Can I assume it's some sort of problem with the HDD itself?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: The 'odd' part is that Mint installed just fine on it
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you have funds enough to consider a new hdd, might be better to do that instead of trying to get an old one fixed.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Since im not getting any bios errors, nor problems when installing mint, I can assume I didn't accidentally change any master/slave jumper settings?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you move the jumpers or change change which plug on the data ribbon cable plugged into it?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Not consciously, it started having problems and re-installation errors even before I opened the case
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Can I setup some kind of attacking macro or something for fighting made easy?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: macro, yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably shouldn't for other reasons, but at least it's legal.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: careful of the slippery slope towards botting.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: "alias slaughter bash:bash:bash:bash:bash" is a long way from a bot, it's silly to pretend otherwise
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Nothing that is auto. I'll be pressing the button but how to set it up.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain rapidly nods twice at Nunedreek, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: feel free :)
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If it fires off commands and you stay in one room, you're fine. A stack of commands to clear an area isn't fine. Help botting is very cut and dry for most stuff.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Game->Configure->Macro
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I'll see what I can do *bow*
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: What programming language would be good take a look at with mushclient to learn how to set up more advance things?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: What I thought. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Anyone let me know how to turn off parsing in MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Parsing of what? Can stop parsing ; by including one at the very beginning of a command entry
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can turn off triggers, aliases and timers with a checkbox in their respective gui menus
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: does it make any remote sense to try to set up a Raid configuration to an external drive? or will that just be too ridiculously slow / impossible ?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Why would you want to do that?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Backup? Or just do it as a scheduled?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Like a raid1 with your internal drive?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: That would be silly, because you'd have to leave it plugged in and USB is much slower than SATA 3.0 or 6.0GB
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I would just set up a RAID1 with two internal drives on your SATA channels, or just use an external with regular backup software.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I just logged on and my map and mapper didnt load. First time this happen. Any idea what would cause that?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: restart the client?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I'll give it a go and see what happens.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: This is odd. Both are not working now.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define not working
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Okay now that I have a fresh install of XP, any tips on keeping it lean and mean? Besides not downloading junk, using Diskeeper/defrag, Sandboxie, etc.?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't download junk
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: AVG or Antivira ? Spybot or Malwarebytes? 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaerion Tech: Avast Antivirus.  :)  
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: AVG is total junk now, so ruined with bloat.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hehe, meant Avira anyway...avast ?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Malwarebytes is still reliable.  In terms of antivirus, I've always used Avira.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows defender, ccleaner, and malwarebytes
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Severus Tech: Kaspersky
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Windows Defender? Wait, Windows is good now? Since when?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: avira is a pos right now
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows Defender is the best antivirus I have ever seen
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: since they bought another company? :p
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ewww there is writing stuffs in there
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I'm not tech savvy, so I'm clueless as to what company they would have bought.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They didn't buy another company for it, it was all inhouse
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And to be clear, when you say junk, you're talking all the toolbars and stuff like that? Not little programs from small developers like f.Lux and JDarkRoom ?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it stopped catching stuff for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what type of "bloat" ruined AVG, perhaps the bloat was unavoidable   
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fordin Tech: how to use triggers on pocket mud?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Best free firewall? Comodo or just Windows?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Virtual machines are more comprehensive than sandboxing, but require another full OS install?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Anyone familar with XML?  Can XML handles queries based on ranges (ie: 1 - 10) and report back that information based on variables (Ie: color etc)?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: xml is just a transport language, didn't think it could actually do anything
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: xpath might do what you want
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Thanks.  Xpath looks like the right idea.  I don't need to create a relational database but I do need to compare data.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I have been seeing other people talk about more plugins. I use mushclient. Where do I find them so I can read up on them?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast for a bunch
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there currently a way to get the inv details of all items in a bag? I have 'give all self' to grab the invmon for all items in inv, looking to do the same with bag contents
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Inv sort, Vakieh? is that wht you're after?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: invsort, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, looking to grab info like uid and name
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: id
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: invdata <container> ?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, thats what i was after. not invsort
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Osnap Ixle with the goods :-P Thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now I have that sorted, does anyone have experience leveraging python for Mush? The more I work with that language the more I love it, but lua seems more integrated
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No specific question to ask on it, just wondering whether anyone has had success with it
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: works fine on zmud. shrug
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any way to grab *potential* wear-loc from unworn items?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: invdata shows it. 
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only if it is equipped - any unequipped shows wear-loc of -1
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah, just realized what you were asking. sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Invdetails.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Downside is you have to do it for each item.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But it does show wear location.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be sweet to have a meld of invsort and invdata commands
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nod just merge them so invsort has an invdata like display
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Rather an option for it
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: all portals are saved in the aardwolf.db file right?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: k thanks, just dbl checking, making backups as i been editing alot latly.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: aard layout reset i think it is
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know how to affect a trigger's flags via script? Talking things like 'omit_from_output', etc?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nvm, found it - SetTriggerOption
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: usually: omit_from_output="y"
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh, nods, that's to change it
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I was looking to make a debug mode, wanted to selectively omit as needed
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Anyone here that uses Sharptracker 205g?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: love it, whatcha need?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: When I complete a quest, my calculation for the quest points kinda screw up
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fordin (
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Aard changed the line...it now says "giving you a x point tier bonus." instead of "giving you x quest points tier bonus."
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Plugin: Sharptracker205g (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Immediate execution
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:2: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:2: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: It says something like that
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: give me a sec and I can tell you where to look for it.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yep, I know. I fixed mine.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: Could anyone help me with basic macroses in aard mush please? I can't figure it out on my own. Or link me somewhere...
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: I can help with making an alias or trigger but probably not macro
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: If I want to press F1 and cast this and this, what would it be? :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: dont think you can make an alias a function key...i could be wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's about 60% of the way down the file, IvanHoe... make the line read '   match="*tells you 'I am also giving you a * quest* point* tier*"' instead of '   match="*tells you 'I am also giving you * quest* point* tier*"'
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just go into macroes, choose f1 and type in what you want to do. it's just basic alias
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: you could probably do it witha script though
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you just need to tick the "use f1, f6 as function keys"
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: Nuance, where do I tick that?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: from global
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: global-general
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: He means File -> Global Preferences
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse is agreeing with that Jhav person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-alt-g
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: aaa :) that's better :) hang on...
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and for macros, just alt-enter to enter world properties, from list in right input->macros, and then from right side, just edit f1 and it works for you :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: left list...*snicker*
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: Great! So now, in the macros window I go to F1, type my text, and what do I choose? Replace, send now, or insert? Send now?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: send now
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: There are also some weird macroses here like whisper, down, doing...what are they, can I delete them somehow?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if they do no harm, why would you need to?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: Don't know, they are just confusing :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: numpad uses those for quick things :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: for example 7 in numpad is down
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can use the numpad for navigating areas quickly
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: aaa, I see. But I had + by default as down
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: So I don't touch them? :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I always used 9 as up and 3 as down personally
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use + and -
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's a personal preference, Daloran...and common from Zmud users
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I didn't say it wasn't preference. =)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Clearly, my way is the right way though.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: do not fix what is not broken :P
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I've assigned "exits", "con all", "scan" and "openall", plus "quaffmana" and "quaffheal" to the stuff I keep on my numpad
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: Hehe. So why for example look there uses replace, but not send now? 
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Should I do a separate partition for pagefile and/or programs ? Windows XP on my main drive, second is only documents
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: is there a way for me to see everything that is being sent to my mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: is there a way to temporarily disable all plugins? i want to see the tags without them being gagged
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, Aard note mode plugin does that, for example.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Can't recall how, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i think ill reconnect with another client
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: Elkore, if you want to do it manually, just ctrl+shift+8, untick enable triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: what are some of the more popular plugin's for mush that track kills/exp/gold? i was using opochtli's but it broke
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you just need to change one line in sharptracker
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: the line about quests?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: about 60% of the way down, yep
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: hrmm k i'll look
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: make it say "giving you a * quest* point* tier bonus." instead of "giving you * quest* point* tier bonus."
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: The mud added the word a to the line and that's all that's wrong with it
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: thanks a ton =)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone using dreamweaver cs6
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sissy Tech: Hi, can someone please remind me how to switch boards so I can read diff. notes?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: forum
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sissy Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: subscribe
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: board <name of board>
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sissy Tech: Thanks everyone.It's all coming back to me now. Haha. I've just come back from a long 'hiatus.'
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Does it make any sense to create partitions for pagefile and/or certain programs on an XP installation?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: pagefile, no...but it's not a bad idea to have a separate partition for your documents
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes, I have a separate drive for those...just didn't know if for browsers or games perhaps should be isolated
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaos Tech: Does anyone use the mushclient and if so how do you set up a macro?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: ctrl+shift+9
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: crtl+shift+9 is for an alias, macro is ctrl+shift+2, or just clicking around in the preferences menu
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oo, I see there are 3 Mudlet users around! One is me, who are the other 2? Maybe I could share my scripty setup!
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And ditto on the lvl 271 Am4z0Ns h4s teh S3cHs n U d0n'T!!1
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In mush, how do I make a trigger that catches a variable amount of lines?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I know there is a setting for multiline trigger, but you must specify the amount of lines beforehand
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Using a multiline regexp trigger - almost exclusively a bad idea
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Why? Performance?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: gets orders of magnitudes more complicated per line
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm only looking for 2-4 lines.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What exactly are you trying to capture?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's not a big deal - I'm trying to make a trigger that adds a line to lbid xxx with total stats
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If there's another way to do it, please tell me :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So you want to grab from the identify output?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When you send 'lbid ###', have that as an alias which enables a trigger on 'Stat Mods  :" - which in turn enables triggers on Wisdom, Luck, Moves etc. Turn them off again with a trigger on "+-----------------------------------------------------------------+"
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: meh, don't like working with multiple triggers, but I'll do this, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Multiple triggers are a sight easier than multiline :-) Always turns out badly
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I like multiline because I'm fluent with regex and can pull it
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But I'll try your way this time :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's easier for the client, not neccessarily for you.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably not a huge deal, though, if you're sure exactly how many lines it's going to have, every time, and you don't have a whole slew of them.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How does mush pass the table of wildcards to a 'send to script' trigger?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: %1, %2 etc
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone care to explain what a "bouncing portal" is with regards to mapper?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper#Configuring_the_norecall/noportal_assistance
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks!