T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I just downloaded r1738 mushclient and overwrite my previous revision. How do I verify the revision of my client?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: anyone know the command to see the speedwalk to araes through mappers?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here willin to help me modify fmud clients output abit ?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Is there any 3d mmorpg game like Darkfall I can play from South Africa. Besides, WoW. I'm looking for a Player vs Player type.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Nobody knows?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: We play Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: with the bandwidth limits on most SA ISPs, you'll have a hard time finding one that you can play regularly.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: So you're saying I can't play Darkfall or Eve?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Curious, what kind of bandwidth are we talking?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I'd recommend checking your local stores and seeing what they have in stock on CD
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: EVE is possible if you can get it on disc
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: but sometimes the patches are big
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it doesn't take a lot of bandwidth to play, though
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: and What type of Bandwith?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: your monthly data limits--most SA internet providers that I've heard of have ridiculously low ones
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Don't insult us!!!
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not saying they all are, but what I've heard is that 100GB/mo is an almost unheard of cap, most are 5-25GB
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hehe. i transfer ca 2TB monthly :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: apart from initial download 10gb/month is enough for eve unless you are on mumble/teamspeak alot
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: if you've got one of the better ISPs, you can probably play just about anything. If not, you'll be seriously limited.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa nods at Rusk.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: but if you get in any of the big alliance or fleet...you will need those communication tools too
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Jeeze, how much non video data?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and if you're on TS, that bandwidth varies by the server owner's settings
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: TS?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Aldeas, you can still play EVE on about 56k internet, though you'll be lagged if there are a lot of ships on-grid.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Teamspeak
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: eve is spreadsheets in space
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Like dots on paper spreadsheets?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Something must be wrong with me, that was a selling point right there
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: It's a very fun game, Aldeas--complex, would take a lifetime to get good at everything you can do in there
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: yeah, simply training all skills would take over 25 years
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You never go full spreadsheet
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: haha, so is it real time based?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: for training, especially
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: you're bloating me. twenty-five years
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: but people with 1 week training can take/kill people with a years training. 
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: what? years is still a long time to play a game.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I LIKE games that I can play for years...if I get bored with one aspect of the game, I can go play another aspect for a while.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: no correction. Years is a long time to master a set of skills on a game.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: He do have a point, i guess.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: that is all aspects....market, leadership, ships, guns, supports etc. you can specialise in one and be good at it in a few weeks
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa nods at Rusk.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: So what is Eve exactly. I just checked out the wikipedia page and I'm still clueless on how you play it. Do you go Star Trek and build your own ship, upgrade it, upgrade it more, destroy other ships, loot their crap, upgrade more, mine. wtf, I'm just guessing
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Yes, Arikhan, you can do all of that.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: also, dust 514...a ps3 fps is now linked as planetside component of eve
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, that just went in a couple weeks ago
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I think I'll get that dust game then
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's more FPS-ish than EVE, but you'll still need to get eq and upgrade it and stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I'm never been big on managing, especially a spaceship. More of an action type of joe
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: there's plenty of action in either game, too
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: not sure aobut dust, but eve *is* managing. and keeping ahead with your income so you can gank people. tears are precious
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: they had a 3000 person fight on the weekend. though there was alot of lag
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: just remember goons are evil :)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yes, Goons are out to destroy damn near any game they get into
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: o. and if you get scammed, its your own fault. learn for next time
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Scammed? how?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: My buddy got his account reset because he was part of a corporation that paid for in game money.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: We're talking about EVE right?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: yeah, if you earn enough ingame, buy plex, use that to keep playing, but dont buy out of game :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: for example, on market, it's buyer beware... corp thieving happens, accounts get hacked and if you buy something from someone on a hacked account you can get banned...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I heard that there was a guy who started a bank on Eve, everybody invested on him. He then closed up the bank having everybodies money, bought a kick ass ship that should make you shit yourself by just looking at it, used another chunk of that money and placed a bounty on himself
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: wouldn't surprise me, Arikhan.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: yeah, i read about that. also pyramid scams. dont trust anything in jita 
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and assume that just about any contract someone links in local is a scam--read the fine print, make sure it's not you giving them bunches of isk for something ridiculous
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: or a full set of implants might have one of the low-grade ones in it instead of being all high-grade
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: If you can't take this money out. Why are people going crazy about it? Or can you ?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: or some contracts...cant tell between skill books and actual modules fitted on  a ship due to way they show up.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: People say never use the trade window because of that, but there's a safe way to do it where you can't be duped.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: modules are 100mil each..books about 100k :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can't take it out LEGALLY, Arikhan, but some people are still involved in RMT
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: make sure it says fitted
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: eveonline?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: yes gnarcyon
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: hehe, yeah, Gnar
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: though...we might be better off to take this over to gametalk?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sneaking a tech q in here, is the data from the 'wearable' command and the type data from help invdata available in some tagged or otherwise easily parsable form?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: omg. you killed tech
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Lacrimosa and Rusk. Thanks for the chat. later.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i've parsed both of those lists, so i consider them in parseable forms already *shifty*
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right Mye, I could grab them as is, but I was hoping to set it up futureproof in case of racial wear slots or new item types (type 23, for example)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: Why am I seeing {invmon tags?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you typed invmon and aren't running an inventory plugin...help invmon
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: ok, right on
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: I was using one, not now
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: How do I check what revision is my aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Using sqlite with lua in mushclient, I keep getting a 'cannot start a transaction within a transaction' error aftert attempting to step() a prepared statement - even though it is the first and only transaction on the db. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, getting frustrating now :-( I call close_vm right before I prepare and step the statement, and it still comes back 'cannot start a transaction within a transaction'...grr
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you checked http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9329969/sqlite-multiple-insert-issue
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: CRISIS AVERTED! :-) Captain Cut n Paste that I am, I had calls to BEGIN and COMMIT inside my prepared statement... silly me :-P Thanks for looking though
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Always nice to see data parsed smack bang into a db, all neat and tidy :-) And with that, it is 3am and I am about to go die on a bed :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh joy, my Steam has packed up
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: How do I recolor my prompt? The Mini window eq plugin I was using doesn't want to work, and that really was the only thing that modified my prompt.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that plugin doesn't touch your prompt
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: Help prompt gives you all the stuff you need, and help color gives the color codes.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you want your default prompt, I think "prompt default" will do it
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: actually "prompt all"
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: Hmm. Well, while I figure out why my eq window doesn't want to update, it goes back!
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: {invmon}6,959661874,909665465,-1 <------That's a potion I put into my luggage bag. It shows that, with different variables for whatever item I move around. How do I remove that?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: invtags ?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: I deleted the client and reinstalled it, and it persisted through that. No new plugins or anything.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. invtags is a mudside command
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: Invmon. Ok, I see it in the list.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. thats the one
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just type invmon until it says you will no longer see inventory tags
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: I got it.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is there a way (in mush) to have it select the rest of my output buffer (so i can set bookmark, do stuff, go back to bookmark, and just select from that point on without having to scroll).. would prefer not to use session logging since that's a lot of extra steps
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I don't know that there is--but if you find it, let me know, it'll come in handy for clan meetings and such
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: listen my friend got communication suspened what happened? and how to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: what do you mean communication suspend?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: I have no idea what he mean's.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: like he can't talk on channels, or he can't log in?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: she got communication suspended and I need to know how to fix it. Is it a newbie channle question?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: what do you mean by communication suspended?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: It's a question that could have many different answers, depending on what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: wait a min
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: He got his talking prievlige taken away
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: he missed used his communication rights?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: you mean nochanned? help nochan then
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: read the second to last paragraph
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: when do the imms give back the comm to the person?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: when or if we decide to - depends on the person and the reason they were banned
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: yeah, best is to write a polite note asking imo
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: and we don't discuss channel bans with anyone but the person banned
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: hmmmm ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So I have a thing setup to grab all the data from invdata/eqdata and invdata <container>, getting 782 items where my weight says 788... I have nothing keepflagged, any idea what might be missing or extra in either set?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: didnt count the countainers?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: The human soul weighs 4?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait, no, it was due to some items having out of order KMGHIT flags o.0
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Didn't know that was possible :-( Going to make grepping a bit trickier
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: any plugins for mushclient that automagically save everything I identify to a DB?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I am making one right now :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But I think Bast might have a current one?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: hmm I'm going to need to take a look
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I guess the hardest part is the Regex isn't it?  Then again I haven't looked into interacting with sqllite and lua
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's all a case of fiddly, and making sure you keep the database current - easy to fall behind with dropping, getting etc
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't want to use bast's, and want to make one yourself, the biggest info is to use invmon and its relatives
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: any quick and dirty way to assign primary key and prevent from adding additional of the same item?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: other than being careful =p
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wouldn't know if it's the same item, though
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Create the db with a primary key in the create table query
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use the item's id for pkey
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: the object id under identify will always be unique, even for every potion you buy
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, you don't want 3 million heal pots in the db
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I thought the ID num was specific to that item iteelf
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you can make a db unique constraint on "everything but itemID"
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So filter entries based on type
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only input it into the db if the item type is not 8
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would allow it to add, say, one each of level 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 garbage cans
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I like, haha thanks I was just looking for a plugin and now I'm planning on a bit of coding.  Go Friday!  Thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this would impact more than just potions
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axl Tech: I just switched from zmud to cmud 3 pro and I can't figure out how to make simple triggers on cmud
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, there is bast's eqdb if you're just looking for a plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I'm a data hoarder basically
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: and I'm running this thing in wine so it seemed like some of the things that relied on jet and such crashed and burned
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I believe it's currently set to be strictly a database of what you currently have on your pfile (as in, it deletes as you drop/sell/use items), but it's still a great start for the grunt work
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: sounds like a good base, I don't like reinventing the wheel, just a few little modifications to it
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd want to constrain against repeats and comment out the "remove when item gotten rid of" stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As for mine, it is in dev atm but it keeps 1 db of all items I currently have on me, and then keeps a secondary db of items I have seen/id'ed, etc - using things I see to parse a range for each item - so it would be 1 entry for garbage can, with the level field being ranged 3-7 (actually storing a lua table object, but you get the idea)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Haven't worked out how I want to handle items with ill/res/sol flags vs those items which are the same but lack them...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's always a tough one to handle...want "base" for info, but good to keep track of probably both "what I have" and "best I've seen"
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I actually have a script that uses ident and lore output which writes to a flat file, that I wrote well before we had invmon
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Very much a shame that wasn't implemented like objstat/objlower :-(
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: mind sharing it Abe?  Understand if you don't it feels akward asking for someones code
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and whenever I identify, lore, appraise, bid, rbid or lbid, it puts two lines under the ident output of "Total Stats = 1" and "Total DR = "+1"
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's for tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: is it still using Regex for matching and all that fun jazz?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush uses PCRE, doesn't tinyfugue use POSIX?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf uses pcre
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I'm regex braindead always takes me forever, thats why I was curious about your script that writes to a flat file
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use http://regexpal.com/ to help. It's ECMA, but close enough
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's pretty simple for that...a bunch of separate regexes for the different fields.../def -F -mregexp -t'^[|] Names      : ([^|]+) ([ ]+)[|]' set_item_keywords = /eval /set item_keywords=%%P1...pipe, space, Names, so many spaces, colon, single space, capture anything except pipe, space(s), closing pipe
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def -F -mregexp -t'Strength     : ([+-][0-9]+)' set_item_stat_str = /eval /set item_stat_str=%%P1
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: hmm, I think I may have been slightly over thinking it
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: capturing each of the stats as a separate unanchored regex of Statname : (numeric)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you won't know if it's the left side or the right side
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I tried that as a multiline... don't do that :-P Trigger enabling is much, much easier
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, performing the ident, etc. is a "turn this on", and there's a "turn this off" after
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but really, look at invdetails
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine is only using that because the invstuff wasn't going to be created for years
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does invdetails data increase after you get the identify wish?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {weapon}dagger|693|pierce|Pierce|vorpal
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So no location/resists info then? :-(
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it gives those
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {resistmod}Acid|100
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i did not know about invdetails, that is nice
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was just doing the weapon stuff because some weapon stuff is missing in ident command and lore
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Missing even with wish?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I meant that's why I chose to paste a weapon, which wouldn't have had resists
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at invdetails, it's a multiline with different classes of info on different lines, but it's easily parseable
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without switching to alt, I dunno how complete or incomplete invdetails is without the wish
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You get area found from invdetails with wish?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no spot for that. that's the only thing you don't get which you can possibly get otherwise
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if doing today, and I cared about area, I'd use invdata/details/mon for all the info and then lore for nothing but area...but for the db, you'd probably want to cross-reference areaname and only save it using area keyword
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a database, you'd probably want to include a way to manually add notes such as what MOB you get it from, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I also have an in-client command to search the iwuvaard eq database :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ozzy had a nice writeup on doing that for zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Anyone a linux user?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: quite a few here, I imagine...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Well I was hoping to get some help and advise.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: ...yes, ok?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if that's all you're bringing to the helpdesk, probably best to stick with Windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ask your question, your just wasting time at this point
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: NOt sure what linux to get for my computer. Everything I have tried locks up. A distro someone could point me to look at.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ubuntu is probably the simplest
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Umm, what kind of comp, specs, what are you trying to use on it...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use opensuse, but ubuntu is a popular distro
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I think most have issue with my graphics card amd hd 6xxx
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I had similar issues with my motherboard and video card combo (6950)...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: did you find a work around?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: After some headaches about distros locking up, I found that if I got some of the nightly builds of a couple distros it would work. Just needed newer kernels than were in the stable builds.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Some of the very recent kernels have a whole new kernel module setup for the AMD video cards.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: know what kernel i should look for?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Not off the top of my head, unfortunately... I know I grabbed a nightly Gentoo Linux build, but that was only a couple weeks ago.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Ah. I'm not ready for gentoo just yet. I'll keep searching
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Thank yoiu
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But some poking around on that subject may give an answer.. Something with AMD adapters and framebuffer support.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the latest kernel is 3.7 with 3.8 just around the corner
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I think other distros that have either nightly or unstable builds may cut it.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: It was somewhere in the 3.7 line, but I'm not sure of the minor revision.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: most distros usually have a repository that has the latest kernel
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Looks like this was announced in mid-December, so very fresh kernel builds.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I tried about 4 distros over the last several months and couldn't get any of them to even boot their installers on my machine until I tried that new build.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I'll keep looking around and seeing what I can figure. I want window gone. Always had a thing for linux
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's the spirit!
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: That is the problem I am having Robbo.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Unfortunately, all that fighting, and I ended up removing it. Support for my 3-monitor eyefinity setup was ... shoddy.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Sigh. Maybe I'll try again in 6 months :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Linux is getting better and better each year. Slow process.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I ran Linux at home in various flavors for about 7 years, but switched off about 2007 or 2008 because of hardware support issues on my last machine.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I'd like to switch back, but my current machine was built as a gaming rig, and seems to have even more issues than the last.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Maybe I'll build another machine to play on.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Linux is getter better, definitely, but ubuntu is getting worse, I'm thinking about dropping it next install and just go for debian instead.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Ubuntu's new default WM setup is almost as bad as Windows 8 :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I'm sure it's lovely on tablets... but no.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yay for Ubuntu Server :-P Touch screen? Pah, got me a terminal
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I have been seeing that Ubuntu is going down hill. Trying for other distro.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Amen, brother Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why would you use Linux/nix for a gaming rig?  Wouldn't you just have to emulate?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, ubuntu server is debian.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I was planning on a multi-boot setup for playtime.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Got extra hard drives just laying around, so why not? :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone doing anything with *nix and gaming before steambox is released is silly
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am gaming on linux as we speak!
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mud doesn't count Ranrr :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I do play a handful of Indie games, many of which have good Linux builds.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I don't really game much like I used too. If do any gaming its muds now. So I don't need crazy hardware.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But I also play some games that definitely only run in Win
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Aard doesn't count.  Unless your box is hired out as one of the server's Aard's hosted from.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, steam is in beta and from what I have heard seems to work...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I was kind of intending to try it out, had my video support worked a little better.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: For now I'll stick with running *nix in a VM, I suppose ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I just try ubuntu and it just freezes up at loading screen 12.04 and 12.10. Mint got past the loading screen. 
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Might try the 13.04 nightlies.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Probably better to go with a stable release with a new kernel
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: didn't know of it. I look it up.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Well, perhaps, if you can get the installer to boot :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Most of the distros I tried to run on this hardware I couldn't even get the installers to boot. Tried passing every boot parameter known to man :(
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Even without X?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: there has to be something out there to work me. the search conitues.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: thank you for advise on what you guys know. it helps.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: is there more issue with 32 bit than 64 bit linux?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: more than what?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: should i get 64bit if i have it or 32bit with PAE support?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 64
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: Anyone know the default font and size for the stat window in aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: Well done.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: I think the font is Dina 8
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: i think its courier twelve 
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I have been using font type courier all this while, does anyone know of any better font which is pleasing to the eye, not too bug, neat and readable
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is no better font than courire
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know if the extra ||| in invdetails have any use?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how can I tell mapper to use home instead of portal when the room is noportal but recallable?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: great info on the website of the guy who wrote it
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish, MUSHclient, click wiki tab, included plugins, featured plugins, GMCP-driven world mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i delete a variable witha trigger in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is there a way to delete a variable with an alias in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: according to my pc i have 223 mb graphics memory, how do i activate it?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: by turning on your computer
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What do you want to do with it, and what makes you think it isn't activated already?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: uhm...im not that stupid
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: my games cant play full screen? and it looks junk...
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That could be the 223mb? Current ave these days is 2-3gb
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try heading into the run box of your start menu and typing 'dxdiag'
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you get output in the 'display' tab, your gfx card or internal is activated already.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: well.,im not really into games
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: wonder wheres run on win 8 :p
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: tho it do say i have approx. Total memory 223 mb...
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: any ideas why my stats window wont update (stays blank) after updating the script/client?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: aardmush btw
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: have you tried re-installing the plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: any way in mush client to make it automatically repeat the last command when you hit enter?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yea its in one of the gui options
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: whats gui, I'm new to this client
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: graphical user interface
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: game -> configure -> commands and use the checkbox labelled "Auto Repeat Command"
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: click game/configure/output/input/auto repeat command
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: thanks, much more complicated, or rather sofisticated program than I'm used to.  I started out in the telnet days
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: poo you will get used to it after a bit yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: yeah, it'll take some playing with
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: loving this automapping feature, will it save it after I've been there once and be all mapped out the next time I'm here?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: yes it will unless crashes
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: sweet, gonna def need to play around with this
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is it possible to delete variables with an alias in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: hrrrm, my auto tracker/hunt from winkie doesn't work, say You are confident that An advisor passed through here, heading east.xmapper move 30808 but doesn't move me
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: any suggestions
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: anyone on who can help me with sripts and triggers in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: scripts*
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: botting is that way ----->
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: botting makes the game pointless, why bot
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The Aardwolf Mushclient package page should get you started on aliases, triggers, scripts etc.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: my point exactly yes
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you haven't read those pages, I recommend you do before continueing.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: plus there is the help for it also to get you on the right path.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: when i type eqdata using mushclient, i dont see anything - why?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: some script gagging it?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: If you have the window it should gag it and capture it.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i assume so also, trying to figure out what
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: noodlez, what window? one of basts plugins?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how would i get it to recognise what variables from a list that isnt nill and add them to a string for output?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i think i found it, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: checking for variable which isnt nil: if variable ~= nil then s = s.."i found it" end
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: if i have expanded variables ticked, how would i add in colour codes?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: how do I use the eqsets plugin from bast?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you looked at his website's page on it?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: will look at it, is it the code.google.com?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i get a wildcard to include multiple words while trimming the spaces at either end
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the wildcard, language, program
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lua mush item name
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i get a wildcard to include multiple words while trimming the spaces at either end with the lua built into the MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (?:s*(.+)s*)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: regex
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (?:\s*(.+)\s*)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i get the regex but thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, use the inv* stuff which is designed from the ground up to be parseable
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im trying to get it to work with auc which isnt part of inv
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, for that regex, you'll want either .+? rather than just .+
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well it depends on the rest of the regex
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: so (?:\s*(.+?)\s*)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want the non-space wildcard to be the one expressly non-greedy
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but properly written it should trim the whitespace for you
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: how do I see the serial number of an item?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regex will be rather random when multiple "one or more" can match
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: identify it
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use invmon, invdata, eqdata, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: my example being | Name       : a hallowed light                                   | abd just getting a hallowed light
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i had it before but ccannot figure it out again
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: oh like lore or object read
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, we know your example
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need lore or object read...just ident
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Is there a way to make Mushclient's window icon flash on a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried FlashIcon()?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I'd suggest that's a bad idea--do you realize just how many triggers there are in the Aard mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a particular trigger, not just when "a" trigger fires
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Thanks, Abe. I'll check that out
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I went to help, index, typed in "flash" and say "FlashIcon" in the matching words, double-clicked on the FlashIcon option to bring up the help on that particular function
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: say -> saw
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Cool :)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But my help doesn't work :/
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I actually would have used the functions list, but it slipped my mind while I was asking the original question
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, got notice that there is a new version of the aardclient... is there something fancy about this updating process?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to aard's main website and click the screenshot, then download, that page explains it pretty well :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, sort of expected an explanation when i was taken to a webpage to download the update
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: didn't think of that
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc you're now using a really-recent version already, so just moving the state files is fine
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ...the state files... ?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll mention those on the page, with a caveat that really-old to new might not want to move them
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: noted
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think Fiendish said that the last time he did an update which would've introduced new stuff to the state files was like a year ago
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks a bunch, i'll go into full fledged panic mode if this doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, no need to panic...don't overwrite your current folder, just downlaod a new folder totally separately
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can call it MUSHclient-1234 (version number) to keep 'em straight
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I see this version has a nice quick fix to the issue garamis had on tech board the other day :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: ack got a bad item requesting inventory data for inventory how do I turn it off?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you get the error once, or is it doing it all the time?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: all of the time
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: restart mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: will do..... just started it up.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: oh that worked
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it happens sometimes, I haven't been able to pin it down
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra heard a super cool quiz today. Suppose you see someone leave their Linux computer for 5 minutes. How do you set up a backdoor in a couple of minutes?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: dual boot Windows?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Takes more than a couple minutes, especially if they don't have an ntfs partition.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, I know :-) 
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stikla Tech: set up a remote shell with netcat, and a cron job to keep it active
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Good direction! However, how can you attach netcat to a shell?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stikla Tech: nc -e /bin/sh -l -p 8888
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just add root account ?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ahhh, right! My solution involved socat EXEC
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stikla Tech: could if the user was dumb enough to be logged in as root
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what about reboot and then passing init=/bin/bash to kernel ?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Trachx, a root account is not the same as a backdoor :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, but how do you connect to that port 8888 ?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean you have also open port in firewall, for that you need root access
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Umm, with another, remote netcat?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: oh, well, yes
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: But by default, operating systems tend to come firewallless.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, probably you would have to change selinux mode to permissive
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stikla Tech: heh  I am not about to go into an in depth hacking tutorial.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you probably would need rather something more active - I mean not just use netcat to listen, but rather to connect to remote host - that way you will pass incoming firewall protection
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it could be much easier (or more effective) to add ssh authorized key, so you could log on as usually ssh sessions are not firewalled
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: If I want to list all mobs in an area on duckbat is it just "+mob +area"?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first search for the areaname itself and look at the details
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll need the number from the "Entry" field
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's &area=THATnumber
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: anyone use android client?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a fair number of people use blowtorch, yes (aardwolf RPG is blowtorch pre-setup for Aard)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: anyone use android client?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not regularly.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're better off asking the question, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably better to just ask your question.  Several people do, and several people have at some point or another in the past.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: im tryinh yo capture tells in the notification
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: to*
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: once a tell shows up i want the notification bar to show the tell
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: are you using ongoing notification or "spawn new notification"?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't know that the ongoing notification ever worked
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: spawn
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What problem are you having?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: i have ^(.+) tells you '^(.+)'$
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: the out put as $1 $2 but nothing displays
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: do you have catchtell on?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The second ^ doesn't need to be there
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: make sure you have the literal checkbox unticked
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: that too
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the ^ basically means "Only match when the beginning of what the mud sent me is here"
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: ahh that was the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: works now :)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mind you, with that particular pattern, even the first ^ is meaningless
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Here's a fake tells you 'stuff was said.'
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: trigger abuse, nuke
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: yea i see
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any time you're starting a line with an "accept any amount of anything" wildcard (which is what .* or .+ does), you're negating the reason to use ^
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you turn "tags tells on", it'll add some tags to tells, which you can use to make sure you're not capturing stuff besides tells.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Will also keep it from going off when you're checking tell history.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: or when you get a quest from questor
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: ahh that was the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try this after turning on tell tags: ^[{]tell[}](.*?) tells you '(.*?)'$
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: y u r play w my trigz
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz u r bad at ritin em
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: y?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no u r
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: they are kinda jumbled aswell, every time you do that I complete a campaign
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if i wuz, min wud be messd wit
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: thanks abelinc that works perfect 
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my pleasure :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thank goodness for that
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: Gregor why dont you fix yours with he posted?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: greg's just messing around
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He's just likely being a troll.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm actually not
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I know it's pretty bad the trigger I wrote. I have a sound trigger. My speakers are the other side of the room and for some reason unbeknownst to me they are turned up bloody loud.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's always fun.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good thing the computer volume isn't on the other side of the room
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Yeah, I guess I need keyboard shortcuts though
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: seeing as my mouse is buried in a huge pile of wires 
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything has keyboard shortcuts :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows key, control panel, arrows to get to sound
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: don't you hate that when you leave a pile of wires on the floor in a neat an orderly fashion. Then the next morning they are a gigantic ball of pure anarchy.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: btw, I'm running linux
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even better...sysctl
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: don't I need a terminal for that
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've got one
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: how to open terminal with keyboard shortcuts?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've actually got 3, normally
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try alt-f1
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just remember alt-f<later numbers...last one returns you to X>
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: nothing, I'm runnin wattOS btw, it's very similar to ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: tbh it's not a big deal so long as no-one sends me any tells
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: how the hell is MUSH so loud
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: loud?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: NO PLEASE STOP SENDING ME TELLS
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ok deaf mode on
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: problem solved, I didn't want to talk to anyone anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-shift-8, tab until enable trigger sounds is selected, then space, then enter ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type hearfriends and they will send you tells.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I do not want to disable trigger sounds
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thanks tho
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I could go across the other side of the room but I'm too tired
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm avoiding questing because otherwise in half an hour the wolf trigger will be deafening
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay what is the syntax for removing the spaces at the end of a string variable
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: what the heck is a string variable?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: words
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im more used to pascal than lua
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: lua's string might have a trim function
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: whew I thought it was something you wear
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: O.o
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: This IS the tech channel :p
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: thanks bob, ill have a look
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay ive got multiple alias's, i am having trouble stringing them together with, say 1 command
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: if you're using mushclient, the aliases that call other aliases need to send to execute
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there any script out there that gags notes from selected individuals?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i havent found one yet
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Is there database access to duckbat in much the same way there is for iwuvaard?  Or any sort of API that I can access from the command line?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although you could use a command-line browser command to craft a URL with the query terms
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Is there a compendium of mud responses, such as all the options for consider, or skill up message, level up etc.. Or do I have just have to dig them out of an existing script?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wiki's got a mudmessages page
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: help consider has all the output messages
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: If I'm writing a consider script does it make sense to turn on and off the trigger capture when I con things, or just leave it on all the time?  Does it make any diffrence?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I turn off unused triggers.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it doesn't really matter
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No chance for them to fire in a bad time (eg. reading a note), and secondly, I suspect the MUD client will be faster with less active triggers.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but good practice is to disable triggers when they're not being used
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: How do I escape a colon in a channel comment (AardMUSH)?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: semi colon?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i dont understand what you mean, is this in regex?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you mean at the very beggining of the line, it's not MUSH that eats it, it's the MUD
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ;;
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, for semicolon, if you start the whole line with one, it'll ignore any other ones
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: using a : at the beginning of a line on the channel, the mud interprets it as a emote
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wait what are you trying to do
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so ;tech Hey guys, here is a line ; and here is another
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I cannot put a colon in a comment, it is interpreted as a social. A good old smily comes out -)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: what are you trying to do with it
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not mush, that's aard
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: :) this?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you simply cannot normally start a channel with colon
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can double the : at the start...tech ::)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also so stuff using @, but that's a kind of hack
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: like this ::-) ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can also put some invalid color code at the beginning: tech :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arnica )
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arnica :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, and I meant tech @u:)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there ya go
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: :) looks better than ::) imo
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: :O
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I wear glasses
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud i use %word( %db(@ExpTracker_DB,epochexpand), 1, "|") to grab the # word in a string (which is cmud is item|item2) so the code would pull item, is there something like that in lua?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hadar, you might want named wildcards in regex
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would not know how to do that with lua, im still trying to learn
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Start here: http://www.regular-expressions.info/
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And here: http://regexpal.com/
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Something like (\w+\s+){3}(?P<foo>\w+).* would capture the 4th word into the variable foo, for example.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not sure that naming syntax is exactly right, but it should be close
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then put it into practice with here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=5089
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And then once you know it, there is the reference here: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/regexp.htm
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im still using cmud, just wanted to know if there was a lua version, when its parsing through cmud i can use the old method
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: can also use string.gmatch() to get an iterator that will iterate over each word
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: for foo in string.gmatch("Fee Fi Fo Fum", "%a+") do Note(word) end
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Would print each word one by one.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Wouldn't be too hard to grab the third word from that
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: er, Note(foo), that should be
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Quick q for peeps that might know more than me - would it be more efficient to store a size-constant list of integers in individual fields in an sql db, or pop them in as a text string and parse it with Lua when needed?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: depends
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: whats the size of the list
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 33 elements
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Store them as a list of integers.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that's barely any, text will be fine
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could possibly be split into thematic divisions of 11 and 22
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But I envision a lot of cases where I will need to do comparing based on a single element against a set
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I know, right? :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: sql then, geeze
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I vote for set or list.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Does it really matter?  It's going to take a couple of milliseconds either way :P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: oracle is free for your own use 
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah, just a matter of how cray you want your queries to be
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Leinei, potentially getting into the tens of thousands of total rows
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it's for a Mushclient plugin, so sqlite only for my own sanity :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: mo ram mo ram!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, was misinterpreting it as you only having a single list.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh hell no, single list wouldn't even bother with a db
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: More I think of it, more I think I might even need to sort the db by elements... seems sql fields going to be the only option
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: A real man could sort a text string of numbers.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei coughs loudly.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not sorting the string, sorting the elements based on what their particular values are vs each other in a particular element in the string
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: a1 a2 a3 a4 a5
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There any way to search your news feed on facebook?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There was a picture a few days ago, and trying to find it again
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check browser history
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Do you know who posted it? You can check their posts in that case (sometimes easier than searching through your own)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I mean, I could just keep clicking 'older stories' over and over
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but hoping for something better
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: nothing better
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: well, could put your login/password on your facebook, and ask for someone to search it for you =p
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then proceeded to claim we were infringing on his freedom of religion by not complying
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran peers intently at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: well actually
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: hmm, any way to see news feed about a specific person, without putting them into a group?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mios
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mis, even
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I can pick a group, and only see news feed about them
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but don't see how to do it for a specific person
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: go to their page?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Was thinking those would be different, but maybe not
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ooh, my activity log shows a history of stuff I clicked like on.  That works.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Since I couldn't remember who posted it.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This is really strange. Overnight, my Internet went from working perfectly to having limited access. The little icon on the bottom right notes that I've got access. I can use zMUD to connect to Aardwolf. However, both Chrome and Firefox are returning errors (Chrome gives me Error 105, ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED). I'm logged in on Skype and Windows Live.  Torrents don't appear to be working.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've tried restarting both the router and the modem to no avail.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: DNS server down?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not using a DNS. Unless my ISP randomly auto-DNS:es people.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so you don't visit web sites, you type in their ip address directly?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can still use Safari on my iPhone, BTW.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... I think I know what's wrong.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: raise a ticket
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Your ISP's DNS server is what resolves the domains (eg. yahoo.com) into an IP address.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's what it sounds like to me
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Stupid ISP then.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: like...name a website that you can't go to in firefox
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do iPhones use separate DNS servers automatically or something? Because I can still surf using Safari on my iPhone (while it's connected to my modem).
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: possibly
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: can you go to http://173.194.75.105/ ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you can, maybe set another dns server?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if that works, search for google's dns server and use that or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: http://173.194.75.105/ worked. Does that mean my ISP's DNS is down?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: must be
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Your iPhone.. you have a data connection? Your cellular providor likely has DNS servers for their mobile devices..
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone got any handy?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: used to happen to me, so I switched to google. Though this means that google might know where I'm visiting...
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (I'm currently got my iPhone connected to my home network. It must be using some wonky settings, though, since it's working)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: type in google dns, the address and directions must be there somewhere
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: google dns is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 IIRC
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: 8888, 8844
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just because its connected to your network doesn't mean its not still connected to your isps
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: rather, your cell providors
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: who is your isp?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Swedish ISP, Comhem. First time this has happened.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: even if they're both using the same router, your mobile might be set to another dns or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: FYI, iPhone 6.1 update just wiped my phone, trying to restore now
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: i ask becasue im having dns issue with my provider also
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what it is is about 60% of your IP's being taxed and given to poor people
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: it wiped my mums contact details too. if you find how to restore arnica can you let us know
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could try setting your modem dns to 4.0.0.1
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's why you should never be an early adaptor of new versions of cellphone OS:es.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: crap. I had gigs of ripped music - source CDs a thousand miles away. It better recover
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol. My iPhone is on iOS 5, it keeps asking me to update each time a new one comes out. HOW ABOUT NO CRAPPLE! Samsung seems to be the way to go lately
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't have ripped music, Arnica, that's illegal!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: <3 my s3
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: They release a new one every 5 months. How horrible for you to have to reject each iteration once.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: s3 is the ugliest phone out there right now
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: you're crazy
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I was going to get an s3, then I found out the s4 is expected in April...
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also the first phone designed only by lawyers
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And the s3 is a gorgeous phone
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: vakieh = lawyer :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Vakieh = cs major
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran peers intently at Tigernuts.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. it's ugly. it defies all good looking ratios because apply patented them
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: cs?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: TN ripped from my purchased CDs, legal as all get out, iTunes begs you to rip them
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: counter strike
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Counter strike
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's a niche field.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: ahh. good to know
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lool
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, but they can't tell whether you bought it or not, so they'll whinge like hell anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they annoy you enough, you'll only by drm
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tiger... no =p
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: go back to trolling debate, TN :P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no trolling for you!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I have the secret trolling recipes
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yah. Google DNS is working just fine
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: s3 just looks wrong. it has asymmetric, but it's only noticeable enough to annoy you
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How is asymmetrical?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/05/04/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-the-first-smartphone-designed-entirely-by-lawyers/
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pictures there
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can you make phone calls on the s3?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it basically defies every good design practice
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: and does it lookin sexy
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: more chinese tat that nobody needs
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you don't care about aesthetics
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: samsung is korean
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I bet thats one of those things that people with the phone, if you pointed it out to them, would be mad ass hell cause they'd never stop seeing it
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: margin sizes?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: just like. "so dude, you realize your phones not square?" "what? NOOOO"
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Every app and every bit of music gone, ten minute restores not helping - iSTUPID
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i mean, the ancient greeks already pinned down the ratios and little details that look good. s3 goes against everything they knew a few thousand years ago
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts rolls on the floor laughing at Arnica's antics!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: did you loose contacts too arnica?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: meh, it just opinion things
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Looks like a fresh out of the box rock, yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Osnap, s4 to have 5in 1080p display
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Arnica.. did you just call yourself stupid?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes, Daloran, iDid
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just so i'M clear on that.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aaww, no flex, so will still need a decent case
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Otterbox defender or bust
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: s5 prob with flex though... will be worth an immediate upgrade on that alone
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Induction charge... impressive also
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Worse, all my music on my iPod was synched to my dead Mac, and hooking it up to my Windows box wiped that, too - 3 weeks ago. Who hates unfree information?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought macs were supposed to "just work" :P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: could've pulled the music off the ipod back to your pc
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. s4 with 13mp camera. Would replace my point and shoot entirely o.0
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Seltsimees Dagnir!!!  Tigernuts cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: they do 'just work' in mysterious ways
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Nuh-uh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mac just works. In Just One way, and only if you continue to shell out money.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you have to be trendy and dronelike to use a mac, if you're not, it's not for you
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like osx because it's unix, but i can't stand the UI
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Vakieh has it correct. No allowance for modofication, and obsolete in 2 years max
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i disagree with you there. macbook pros tend to last for quite a while
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: their hardware is decent
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wants to be for the price
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's just that they dumb down and cripple everything
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would be more supportive if they made them all in the west
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: buy nokia then
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wasn't aware nokia made pc's
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who needs a laptop at this point?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, k. i was still thinking phones, too
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: When they went BSD based I had hope. They have done everything to dash that since.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, it'd be great if they made them in the west, like all of the other PC companies. </s>
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people who want to get some work done, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Desktop is for working
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my next phone is a nokia 3310
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Laptop is silly cost for puny benefit when you have the tablet option
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm still using nokia e52. made in socialist finland
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would i want a tablet?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my thinkpad is my main workstation
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a desktop right next to me, but i only turn it on for gaming
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol.. tablet and laptop are totally different devices.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: "laptops are dead lol" usually comes from people who use their devices for angry birds and facebook
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and they're right - they really don't need a laptop
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Officially Finland is a  parliamentary democracy
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i, in the other hand, really like having basic things like a keyboard
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: keyboard!? fascist!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: officially yes, but they're communist by tigernuts' standards
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a keyboard implies you're allowed to type thoughts of your own
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as there are laptops owners, I have question: is 1920x1080 good enough for 17" ? or maybe 1600x900 is better ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and finland is a socialist parliamentary democracy
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I bet California is too, by that standard
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: i prefer the higher res
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or maybe you're an american that doesn't know what socialism means
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: americans know the meaning of peace
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and fries
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: both ok, nuts
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like 1440x900 on 14"
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: higher res is better Trachx.. regardless of size. If you're running windows, you can adjust the scaling and resolution to your prefere3nce, just can't exceed the maximum
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually prefer it to my gaming rig that has 24" 1080p
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mind, its better to drive them at their native res..
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ugh. 16:19... getting harder to find 16:10 displays anymore
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 1920x1200 or bust
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yup. that's why i bought t410. last thinkpad with 16:10 screen
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks, I was hesitating as I heard opinions that it is too high res for too small screen
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: keep in mind that windows sucks at scaling
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah Trachx. higher res is better - it might be wasted, or additional money for potentially little to no benefit - but its not a drawback to have it
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: go to a shop and see the different resolutions for yourself
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: You had me at sucks ...
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, I know the difference, but some things just may be visible after longer time
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i bought a laptop with hd screen for my mum. she complained that everything is "too small" and i set scaling on 125%. fugly. basically just makes the fonts bigger and stretches everything out
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, recently I had to replace my 19" LCD with 19" CRT and my face started "burning" after several hours of work
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i thought windows 8 was tell-tubby large?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w8 doesn't exist as far as i'm concerned
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: memory-holed, ahh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i also stockpiled w7 licenses for downgrades. going to make some money :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: made so much dough when laptops with oem vista became commonplace :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was never a shortage here
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: shortage?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people were always able to get xp licensing here when vista became standard, and likewise 7 now, there was no scarcity therefore no premium for them
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can just buy a genuine key and torrent the image
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not true. oem's really fought downgrading back then
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: several actually removed all xp drivers from their support sites
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need to downgrade, can just raw wipe the thing
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And drivers? driverpack torrent has been all I've needed for nearly 10 years now
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: basically, it was a pita to find working xp drivers for the new sata, usb and ethernet controllers
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's right, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and that's how i made the money. also, with clean installs you needed the drivers slipstreamed
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak.... you likely want to avoid torrenting them image...
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vanilla xp install couldn't figure out the sata controllers and plenty of manufacturers removed compatibility mode toggle
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why? Do it smart from a signed source and you will have no issues
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not unless you know what you're doing
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: torrent msdn iso and calculate the checksum
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only trouble i had getting xp on my latest pc was buggy drivers from the manufacturer
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, unless msft has started hosting them on a torrent tracker, not really legal anyway.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Perfectly legal in my country so long as you own the key
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: However, not in the US
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Don't care about the US :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nothing's legal in the us
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: litigation is :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You should, Vak, If for no other reason then because aard is hosted here.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Smart move in the US is to leave - friggin gestapo state
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aard can be moved :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: everywhere else is just as bad, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Regardless Vak - at present it is in the US.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is it illegal or do you just think it's illegal?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Still not fussed. Even with Captain Millenium Act aard holds safe harbour protection
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: captain millenium act :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Guess what the D stands for :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Distribution of copyrighted materials, Dag. It is.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good time to go gnu
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, so steam is illegal because it distributes copyrighted materials?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, as steam has consent from the holders of said copyrights.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: doesn't matter where you download something since you have the damn license and a right to get it
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that might be sensible, but it's not how it works
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ask Kim Dot Com how that went
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so technically the the sharer of the said information might be in the wrong, but you have the right to get it since you have a licese
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can get done via uploading, but so long as you keep it under 10% it is Fair Use here :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not how it works, Dag
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And Dotcom came out of all that the winner
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he only got out of it because they went after him illegally
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right - the only way they could
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: works like that where i live
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As he complied with DMCA takedown requests to the letter
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, it's perfectly legal for me to download mp3s of the music i own
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: next time they'll just turn him over like they did Aaron Scwarz
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Turn him over how? The NZ gov won't fold a second time, it hit them right in their polls
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: turn him over as in "off him"
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: new zealand turned over aaron schwarz?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You really think AS was a hit?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: stop conflating things, dagnir
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought nuts thought that obama killed him
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your face killed him
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's bad, but not that bad
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, my mom says i'm handsome
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone who believes in conspiracies has FAR too high a belief in the competency of the world's governments
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you bribe your mom with laptops
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hanlon's razor, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: "those incompetent people" have control of the justice system and the weaponary 
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You misunderstand me. I feel EVERYONE to be incompetent where this is concerned. Nothing gets kept secret, nothing gets swept under the rug, because everybody talks.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that's factually incorrect
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: alot type now too :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For Conspiracy X to be successful, it requires Y number of people. As Y increases, the risk Z of someone talking increases.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not the issue
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would say that the level of conspiracy required for the government to have had a hand in it would require a Y sufficiently high that Z approaches 100%
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but you didn't factor in the reptilian mind control
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wouldn't it approach 1?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you don't need perfect secrecy for something not to get out, you only need to ensure it can't come to prosecution. That doesn't need secrecy, it merely needs control of the judiciary
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "someone talking" doesn't neccesarily mean "conspiracy revealed".
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 100% is 100/100, so yes, 1
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tell that to the Jimmy Saville victims from 1960-2010
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fair enough, vakieh. math brain fart
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: atell that to the Chilcot Inquiry
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone here get their twitter account hacked?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: -30
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could someone check for me please - the output from invdetails looks to have an extra pipe between timer and itemscore - any confirm
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Huh. Just learned LUA stands for Linguagem para Usario de Applicao. I was right to make it capitals :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: why doesn't mapper goto <rid> work as an alias? I have a portal to the room. Mapper goto <RID> works though
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You probaly need to change the "send to" drop-down menu to "execute".
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: drop down??
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in the alias window
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you making an alias in MUSHclient, or with the alias command in Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: alias
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: in aard
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's no way to do that, then.  The mapper is a plugin in your client.  Once a command gets sent to aard, aard can't sent it back to you for your plugin to interpret
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: okay well what can i do to make the alias mapper goto <RID>s work when I have portals entered in the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You have to make an alias in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game->configure->alias
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: is there a way to setup a trigger to play a sound when I have a quest ready?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: aard mush
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game->configure->triggers, in the trigger window, there's a section for sound
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Hmm, how can I update my mush client if it doesnt prompt me to update at the start?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Anyone know how to update mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go here: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction?tm=6
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does anyone have the ansi-code version of the WARFARE messages for when someone joins a clan war and which clan won?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: is there a way to handle items by their id's ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, just use it
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Just use the item id where you would use a keyword.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anywhere you can use a keyword, you can use an ID
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Like 'wear 771537287' or 'put 771537287 301536160'
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: it has to be the whole id though
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: huh.. didn't know that. Thanks !!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: and to get the id's, do i have to identify them one by one ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invdata
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and eqdata for worn stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: that command scares me. :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: great :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason for it to scare you any more than just 'inv' does
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Is there a listing of what all the fields mean in invdata?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you looked at help invdata?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I was going to give you one guess where to find it, but Magna ruined it!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: RTFM?  Never, I read enough already in this MUD.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which explains why you're so disappointed in the answers you receive ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: It is a testament though that 99% of everything you need to know is somewhere in a help file.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: without closing out cmud is there a way to "close" everything i have opened with require("file"), it seems to be caching it or something because if i make changes, and test them it still shows the old code
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there an unrequire or similar function in Lua?  Because there's no way via the interface to purge any forgotten external links like COM objects.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in lua im trying to do function test(str) split(str,",") end ... but it keeps telling me split is nil, any ideas (and yes stuff is being sent
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Does Lua have a built in function?  I use utils.split in mushclient or some code I found online to approximate it's functions.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: str.split(",")
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i cannot find a lua split function..
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/SplitJoin
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The first argument wants a reference to the string, you could also do string::split(str, ",")
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at Mendaloth, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in mushclient, it is utils.split
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so apparently because of how i save my variable or something, i cant manulipate it like i want to be able to =/
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Some how my aard minimap is not working. I see a mimimap in main window. I don't know how it got there.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "tags map on"
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Thanks. No idea how that happen but it's fixed.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with lua i have levelinfo.something = "1,2,3,4,5,6" when i try to manupliate it later, its coming out as a string (that i cant do much with) i would like to set it as another array so i can do as for _,v in pairs(var) do print(v) but insted its printing [null,"1,2,3,4,5,6",5] (no clue where the 5 is coming from either lol) (sorry if im explaining it weird im still trying to learn, and this stupid piece of code has been bugging me for quite some time)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: didnt you get utils.split working?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im not on mush
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i could do it through cmud, but im trying to avoid doing it that way
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Anyone here use tintin?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: well  cannot help 2 much i only know lua through mush
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Polgana, just ask your question.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 10 people connected using tintin++ currently
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: I'm writing a con script, and was wondering how to activate and deactivate the #ACTIONS.  I wrote an alias that calls a class with the actions, but I'm not sure how to kil the class after it has finished running the actions.  I'm storing output into a list as well and don't want that killed with the ACTION class terminate.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tried #T+ and #T-?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #class <name> kill
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You should tell people what client you're using :p
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he did
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh, sorry
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: started with [03 Feb 19:04:31] Polgana Tech: Anyone here use tintin?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nod I see it now.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ixle's got a set of tintin++ scripts for aard in a nice package, btw
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: He's using them.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Where do I kill it though.  #ALIAS {defcon} {#class actionclass read actionclass.tin} and kill it IN the class?  Then I have variable export problems
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, for after a set of con's, you might just want to throw an action in the class on a blank line that kills the class.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #action {^$} {#show Killing the Class;#class actionclass kill}
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That would go inside the class
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You may come across a better pattern for killing the class, or use a #delay
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: any recommendations for C ide's?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for your environment, I'd say visual studio
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Wiki doesn't have them all listed, anyone have a list of the possible responses on death of mobs?  Is it varible by attack type?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yeah it varies on what you kill them with
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just need the is DEAD!! one
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yeah thats the same all round
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Mine doesn't say dead, it says "xxx is slain by a final deadly slash!!"
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: that and you would need the weapon kills as per weapon type
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Could I just capture "$target is slain.*$"?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: you would need slain and the is DEAD!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you trying to do...there are lots of ways to know damage ending, as well as who you're fighting...just to know when you're no longer in combat, look at the change of your position in GMCP (or statmon or option102)...for mobs, you can look at You gain experience or That was a no experience kill, You die, You have been killed, You have been defeated, You retreat from the combat, You flee from combat...
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: The GMCP doesn't work for a combat with multiple mobs, because I will stay in combat I assume.  I now have to find all the options for ending combat which are death, victory, flee, or recall right any others?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: teleport
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and I suppose retreat.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at Hanslanda, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Aren't there skills that allow you to "recall" that aren't actually recall?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: word of recall
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mobprogs
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: word of recall, not sure if that looks the same as a real recall, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: by flee are you refering to player or mob?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: both
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does it matter?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: doesent some of the bast scripts have a mob death counter you may me able to modify?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: well panic skill induces flee as well
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that looks like a flee, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Isn't it easier to check the position? Just check it twice, in case of multiple mobs.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's also lasertag and warfare joining, but dunno if they're allowed while in-combat
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, there are stats scripts available for many clients which already cover stuff like this...you don't have to be using that client to make use of looking at their scripts
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: was asking, if they were looking at specific cases to log them to be honest.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you have multiple mobs, I thought the state didn't change because the part of aardcode that changes the state fires multiple times before the part that tells you of the change gets told to you.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for position, it wouldn't change when the first MOB dies and you go on to fighting the second,although the enemy would
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: unless it's multiples of the same mob, then you couldn't tell.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it used to spam you with in/out/in/out/in/out when you did something like fire breath in kimr's farm
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oh. Well, then position seems to be the simpler way to check.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if so there are mobprobs that can do the same thing, the nothing in fens can translocate you to specific rooms within the area out of combat.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now it'll only update position if your position actually changes
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's gotta stay changed for more than like a second iirc
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lots of those kinds of mobprogs, Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: So if I flee a room into another room with agroo mobs, I won't drop my attack flag?  I would think that case it would, SO... As long as I'm in combat I'm IN combat, and if I flee a room combat breaks?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: your state will change, but since the aggros in the other room will immediately attack you might not be told of that change because by then it already changed back.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: I could monitor the vnum of the current room, that would cover just about everything?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: only thing that might mess that up would be self-returning exits.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't think of any rooms that have those plus attackable mobs, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Malestrom does, trapped in the torrent.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Although it still covers recall and teleport, the only thing it doesn't cover is flee.  I'm okay with that I think.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: erm, if you're fleeing you should be getting the vnum too.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Shifting gears.  Gammon suggests having a pre-installed version of Mush to run under wine.  Is there one anywhere?  Not one listed on the site.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard client doesn't need/care about that...it's not an installer, it's a portable zipfile
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: MushClient is a mud client.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: and doesent need installing
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it is what the aardwolf mushclient package is based on, and what the overwhelming majority of players are using
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and fiendish, the guy that puts together the aardwolf mushclient package, often uses it under wine and has a nice FAQ entry on it on the package's website
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hey, there he is :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go to the downloads section
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Polgana D  Thanks that is what I was looking for.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the package from which the screenshot on the front page of aard's website was taken
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Wow, that was easy.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Can I import my TinTin map file into MushClient/S&D?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, just write the transform
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: polgana, practical answer is no you cant
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: How is it stored in TT?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient's mapper is a sqlite db file, you can create sql statements to create records...the question is whether the tt++ mapfile contains enough information
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I suppose you can't just psuedo-generate the missing data?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Does the aardwolf mushclient package change tags?  Things don't look right...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins which use tags will turn on those tags
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any tags which you don't have a script for, but which are being displayed, you can turn off by typing "tags" to see the name of the tag, then tags <thatone> off
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: anyone around?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nope, nobody here but us chickens
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: well thats encouraging
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: Wait, since when can chickens talk?!
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: since 1982, when a government experiment went awry.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unfortunately, when it comes to typing they're mostly hunt and peckers.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: so trig question all i'm trying todo is get the you may now quest to trigger in mush so it alerts me and it will fire when i do test trigger but not when the actual line hits
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not sure, Egg. You sure the trigger you're using to test is exactly the message from the mud? no extra spaces or anything?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: yea jsut copy and pasted
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hm. What if you type.... " echo QUEST: You may now quest again. "
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: yea that fired it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: this kinda stuff makes me miss zmud :P
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: cause the real just hit and nada i jsut dont get it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you have a CR at the end of your prompt?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: prompt shouldn't matter.  You only see a prompt when you enter a message
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and presumably, that message would come after you haven't entered a message for a while
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And yet, it's a possability thats whats jamming it up. So I asked 
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: i have a %c at the end of my prompts
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: How many times have you seen this message so far without it firing?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: lost count i made the trig days ago
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is this notifcation a sound, or what?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: and like i said when i do test trigger and even echo the trig line it fire and plays the sound
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you go to the trigger window, in the bottom-right corner, it'll tell how many times it's fired.  Does it seem like it might have increased every time you got one of those messages?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: says 7 matches
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: so tahts prolly jsut the times i've manually made it fire
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Copy/paste the pattern you're matching on?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: or regex ^QUEST\: You may now quest again.$
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: tried both
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You would need to escape the period in the regex one
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, I guess *technically*, you wouldn't.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Might you have some other trigger that's matching on that line, too?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I Think : needs no escaping.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: perhaps not, but escaping stuff that doesn't need escaping won't cause any harm
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, unless it's a letter
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I don't suppose you accidentally did something to make it match only on uncoloured lines or something like that?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: nope on match any
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: what are you making the trigger do when it fires? If it's play a sound, if something that plays another sound comes immediately after that, it does that instead...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: for me anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: even without the sound i just have it do gt quest time and still didnt fire
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: cause yea i thought the sound might have been a problem
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... what if you do an echo with all the colours and everything?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it's not incrementing the # of matches count, then it's not matching at all
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: tahts interesting i echo it red and nothing but without red and it fires
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: right?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: try making a new one from scratch and setting sequence to 1?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: lol it fires on every color but @R
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ha
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: tahts funny wth
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: wonder if there's some plugin interfering with it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you set color codes in the trigger
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and inverse it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: no color in trig no
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: did a fresh trigger with sequence set to 1 work?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: no same thing
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... can't think of anything else. Something must be intercepting that line somehow, like another trigger or a plugin or something...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is it possible with one alias to trigger a couple other alias's and use the triggering line?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what do you mean by triggering line? Alias isn't triggered
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Store the line in a variable, then have the aliases access it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taralujan Tech: if i am wrining an alias is there any thing i can use to set a comment. that doesnt get passed to the game
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Invdetails can give statmod and resistmod, but help typetags is as yet incomplete - anyone know of any others, and what sort of item might have them?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Dereeg: That depends on your client. I assume you're using aard mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: does android client use compression by default?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: My mudlet mapper says there is no map or valid position. What does this mean?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Unmappable room i'd assume
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Are you in a maze, chall, or other room that really should allow mapping?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: shouldn't*
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: well, Im in the academy
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Then no, that's not it.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Got a more informative error?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: that's all it says
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: Was I supposed to download a mapper seperate from mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Used mudlet, not aard-mudlet.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd use what you have now, otherwise you'll have to do all the coding yourself for the windows and displays and the likes.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: MUSHclient, perhaps?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Also, who's using Mudlet? I've been making some nice scripts for it!
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Henrib is
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: I am
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: what's the most user friendly mud client?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mush, hands down
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: MUSHclient, right now.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: ok, I'll try that
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: "user friendly" != "zmud" :P
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how dare you!
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Zmud is old and buggy
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: .. but I'm working on a nice set of Mudlet scripts, some of which are already good.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Powerful, buggy, and no-longer-supported ... maybe. But not "user friendly" :P
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: It's not really any worse than Mushclient when you're trying to learn to write triggers and scripts.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: When i see user friendly, i assume you mean the 90% of users who don't actually script and want a nice, working client.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: On the other hand, that lack of current support is a big thing.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Not the 10% who could make anything work for them, really.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Fair point.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: In that case, the hands-down winner for ones that are still in development is Mush. I think almost everyone is giving up on Cmud
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: tt++/zmud/cmud at least remind me of C-style coding. Mush/Mudlet is more xml based than lua (yeah logic's in lua, but the plugin itself is just a simple xml document) and iMudPro/Blowtorch/JMC are their own beasts to learn.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: *sigh* mischan
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: my speedwalk wont work
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that doesn't help us much. What speedwalk was entered, what error was given, and turn on echocommands so you can see what the mud actually recievedc
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: received*
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: I did run 2s8e5ne5n3e and it said "Alas, you cannot go that way three times
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: you hit a wall
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Your speedwalk is wrong. That's all the issue is.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: so how do I use speedwalk?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: how do I make it right?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: First off, they start at recall. Second off, just use runto (still from recall)
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you should use correct directions
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: How would we know? We don't know where you're running to, or from.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: Ah, you have to start from recall?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. all roads lead to rome
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Use runto though, better than speedwalk
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slawner Tech: can i hav an example of how to make a trigger on android?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in regex can you nest capture groups, ie, (you (chant|wardrum|inform)|\w+ (grapevine|commune|cant))?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: what do you want to trigger?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: depends on the client language
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes, hans
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slawner Tech: idk attack mob automaticaly
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That example would be botting.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: O.o
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: attack triggers are illegal
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at BobTheGreat, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slawner Tech: ok then heal at 40% health
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie autoattacks BobtheGreat
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: seems a tiny bit discordant, though, since we can automate command-stacking for an entire room and not get in trouble.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: WHAT!
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: you cant really do that wi the android client, it cant make any decisions based off of what the triggered text was, only parrot caputre groups
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: if you stack the commands with a "kill mob" commands that is botting ans is illegal.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slawner Tech: example please
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Read help botting, Vesrai.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's illegal only when your kill commands are targetting mobs in different rooms.  For example, running to a room and having that stack of movement commands end with a bunch of kill commands targeting all the various mobs you know (or merely hope) are there is perfectly fine.  Having it kill all the mobs you know are along the way and then killing all the mobs at the destination...is not okay.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neither of those two examples are fine, hans
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why not the first one?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Duh, it keeps killing when you walk away
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you stacked kill with the run
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: haven't left the room, and it's already agreed that a runto with a kill at the end is fine.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's agreed exactly the opposite of that, hans
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Hans - where do you see that?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can stack a room, but you cannot stack kill to run.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so, in the interests of completion (since I assume it appears as though I just went quiet to avoid the question), there are a few separate conditions where kill-stacking is legal.  First, and which we can discard as irrelevant, is standing in the same room and destroying a reasonable number of mobs contained therein.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Reasonable? You can stack a room of 20 mobs. :p
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, you may take out the entire room you're already in regardless of how many MOBs are in it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: help command stacking
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: as long as your not stacking kill commands onto movement
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean a string of movement commands greater than 1?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archmage Korridel Tech: Simple rules - 1) Be able to stop fighting if someone asked you for a mob for cp/quest/etc.  2) You should be able to see the room you're entering and what's there to fight.  3) You should never execute a kill command after a run if you end up getting stopped via doors, aggro mobs, or other methods to stop you from reaching your goal.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: korridel still here?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archmage Korridel Tech: That I am.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: is it okay to move a dir and firebreath before seeing the full contents of the room?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: very much so, as directly quoted from Lasher.  Help stacked commands (he or one of the imms helpfully copied in the post he made the statement in).
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks, Korridel. Didn't see you name change so fast.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: Yup, help stack just says not to stack to kill entire areas :3
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: one room away is just like being in the same room, or at least is considered wrong but not worth the time to actually do anything about.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archmage Korridel Tech: Mokg - That's fine - as long as it's being manually put in.  If any part of it is triggered, then we have problems on our hands.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: nod, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Just installed Mushclient again on my formatted drive...added some of Basts...apparently I'm spamming "p" since it says every tick i don't know how to create a poultice...any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: p is for the prompt, I think?  Or maybe it's p data...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: p shouldn't poultice
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've probably got an alias for p
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh god, I hope not
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can type echocommand to see exactly what the mud thinks you're entering
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is why all commands should be sendable by gmcp
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes, I have an alias set up mud-side
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, MUSH is trying to type p data to verify your prompt
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: "poultice data"
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: check the ALIAS command to see if you have one set gameside.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please unalias p and use something else :\
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is only temporary. the next time you start mushclient you can remove the prompt fixer plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: after removing that you can re-alias p
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose it is actually too much to ask that people never alias over unrelated game commands
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: having game commands be single letters needs to go.  can't even abbreviate it for faster typing!
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (petition for full gmcp call and response!)
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I agree with Fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though actually am I using p?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well sorry! Remnant from my telnet days
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hold on
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I remember the telnet days
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: crap, I am
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess in the next update I should change that to prompt data
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: seriously, though, p and prompt should probably just be merged, with contradictory functionality standardized (ie, p and prompt should display on request, and a new on/off option should be adopted to toggle)
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: err, prompt data is a valid syntax?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is now
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cool, time to update the helpfile
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rechy Arxe Tech: What is the command to reset the windows on mush again?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: also similar to retard oddly enough...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only for you
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Strazor is agreeing with that The Jerk Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: anyone know how to make the S&D "ak" command do backstab instead of kill if you know please send me a tell:)
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can't, without editing the plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: it says you can by making a alias with K * as the trigger...but Idk what to put as the body
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish smirks.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, that would work too i guess
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just alias k to bs
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: just put backstab in the body?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: It's Backstab %1 as body and k * as title
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone used a external harddrive that has the 'personal cloud/NAS' functionality built in?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: Is there a command or easier way to clear the main window?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: cls
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but depends on how your client reacts to it
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: That doesn't work on the Aardwolf client.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Works on vanilla MUSH, I think, but yeah, doesn't look like it does on the Aardwolf client.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I send a bunch of carriage returns
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Why are you needing to clear the screen?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: I'm just a freak about it. I only sometimes scroll up for stuff. I'm use to working on Linux operating system and terminal clutter bugs me.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: It's no biggy. If I push Ctrl+Shift+C, it clears it. It's just an annoying combo of buttons and it prompts me every time to ask if I really want to.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a DeleteLines function in MUSH, but the Aardwolf client just undeletes it the next time it gets a line
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The main output window in AardMUSH doesn't really work exactly the way that the regular output window does
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: Hm...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: muds scroll up the page... no need to clear!
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: Yeah, I don't know. It's alright. Thanks anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a DeleteOutput() function that works
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: just tried it
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can make an alias that calls it, or probably bind it to a key if you wanted to
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hey guys, "wearable" says portal location is number 32, but I'm getting 31 off invmon. Is that a bug?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ciz.. I suspect it might be the difference between held, and portal depending on if you have the portal wish or not
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i guess held is 27
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.... I retract my wild ass guess.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I have portal wish. You equip the Amulet of Aardwolf as a portal. {invmon}2,object id goes here,-1,31
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: possibly the way arrays are counted in most programming languages... first location in the array is location 0?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: ok i use to know how to fix this problem and i cant remember how now
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: getting chan ch=tech in {} everytime something pops up on channels, ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: type tags off
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You're seeing channel tags now, some plugin that used to gag them is probably disabled.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: ty, knew there was a way to fix that lmfao
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tag and turn off channels
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: what it is is i was doing some editing on mush and hopped back on zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: mush auto turns them on
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mush doesnt turn anything on. aardmush scripts do
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: what i ment
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AmtixWolf Tech: its the first time I'm playing aardwolf on my phone and I have no idea what I'm doing
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmm. I wonder what'd it be if tells were send out-of-channel.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean? Tells come via gmcp too
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: They don't go, though. I thought it'd be fun if they were not affected by command lag.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Why would that be needed? Your tells aren't coming though fast enough, stack less.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Har, never thought of that.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: It's not a bot, Cizra is just using nice automation!
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I doubt the partial second for non-stacked commands, or the potentially few seconds due to stacking will make that much of a difference to the person receiving a tell. Unless they're giving you a timed length to reply, in which case those people are just stupid.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Unless you're stacking a whole area, then it'll be longer (which is illegal anyways)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, well. So the benefit will not be huge, but a nice convenience.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So by your own statement and agreement you've, in a roundabout way, agreed that the time isn't worth the benefit.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sort of yes. Just would be nice to have.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: is the vnum of a room the same as mushclient mapper's room num for it?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: not sure on that
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, vnums are strings nowadays like song-10
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saeraph Tech: For some reason, the main window background turned red and I can't change it back. Anyone able to help?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Is there a linux client you gusy wouuld recomend?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Heh, gusy again :P
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien comforts Saqdum.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Its this damn netbook...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: AardMUSH runs well under Wine
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: how is tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I like it
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I switched to tmux recently because I moved back to Ubuntu for a bit...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: I don't know how the map thing works here but will it work fine with tintin++
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But tintin++ works well with tmux or screen.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Mapping will work fine with tintin++
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Okay, I'll go download it to give it a try.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Never needed to use maps, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Be backs in a second
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: er back...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Heh.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm worried, it's been about 30 and he hasn't come back...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what free linux (host CentOS 6) based virtualization would be most flexible and easy to setup - openvz, kvm, xen? I'd like to setup several VM to serve DNS + NTP, router / NAT (3 NIC and several VLANs), also some management/monitoring like Observium , DELL's OMSA monitor
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: 42
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why should the host be CentOS 6?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why not? But the main reason is it is working now and would require some effort to change to something else
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Sorry, wrong parse of the question.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice at Trachx, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I thought for some reason you were looking for a host online that had to be CentOS 6.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, all of our linux servers use some flavour of Centos / RH
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Did you try to yum them all?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I found qemu fairly quick.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Well got tintin++ working...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my main motivation to implement VM is just to be more flexible when it comes to server replacement
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, it would be nice if VM was easy to move to other server with similar configuration
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice at Trachx, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Why would you use this client with screen or tmux?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OpenVZ seems nice, though I am not sure whether it is easy to move VM to other server, especially when it has other distro version (like Centos 6 and 5)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I think the point of virtualisation is that it should work regardless of host, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a way to create an image that hits the lowest common denominator?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, so OpenVZ is not good for me
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I am not sure that different versions would mean they are incompatible, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Why not use vector graphics? Then have a front-end to scale?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Tintin can't have a map thing like mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It does, ask Ixle. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Sure does, Ixle has my mapper on his site :)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: define "map thing"
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: You know, a section where I can see where i'm at. I'm scared of getting lost since I'm new...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, for that you can use the in-game map.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The client Ixle hosts has that.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: well, actually no
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What I do is I have automap on, so I see a map in every room... then I gag the map and put it into a text file.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it'll work for wintin, but you'll need a third party tail software for windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm... wail?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: There's Gnu32Tail
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Huh.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: Is there a way to capture color codes in a regexp with tiny fugue?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: That sort of doesn't make any sense.... I want to capture and redirect lines that are a certain color.  Can I do that with TF?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm..
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yes. But you'll have to match metachars
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm not sure what that would achieve, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: TinyMonster: if you want to cut certain channels, there probably already are tags or gmcp hooks you could use.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, not sure why you want specific colors, but to each their own
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I like me a little brainstorming. He might be on to something we've missed :)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: It lets me change them, it also lets me change them under certain conditions, and its one more condition that I can test for in regexp which gives me a greater flexibility.  Color has a natural categorization scheme to it.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Change the colours, you mean, like... have red for when you are lower on HP.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: or purple.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yup, but that was something I'd been wanting to do.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, it goes back on my pile of things that would be nice :)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm using tt++ by the way.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: That is not capturing, that is outputting, which is a diffrent matter entirely.  I'm tryiny to KNOW what the color of a given word is.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, good point.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Meta characters tell the color, you can use them it's just ugly lookin
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: ----> http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/colors.php  The first example shows you how to do what you want.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: I'm just not sure what you mean by metacharacters.  If I wanted to match "Tech" whenever it was green what would be the command?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: not enough room for everything with mushclient on a netbook
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you turn off colour parsing, like #CONFIG {CONVERT META} {OFF} would do for tt++, you will see the colours in their gore.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: got that nifty map thing though
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Scratch that, I'd forgotten it does something else..
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It's convert meta ON instead, for those tt++ that might be listening in.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Interesting how tail shows colours but less needs an option for it.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I prefer it that way.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why's that?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias more more -R ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: must like I alias pico pico -mwb
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much*
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: m$ stopp support on windows update for  xp ?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: huwha?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: wouldn't surprise me, it's what? three generations back now?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: reinstaleld a laptop  browser   says  cant access  ms update on xp 2003 server and windows 2000
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: but my main comp is still xp and it  gets  critical  updates still
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: I found this aardwolf+tintin
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: But nothing other than the minimap works...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Lol nvm just read the README
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have any experience with western digital my cloud drives?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: how do I trasfer my maps from an old version of aard?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: you mean from an older client?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: how do I trasfer my maps from an old version of aard?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: copy aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download...that page tells you exactly how
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Read the link though. Has extra, helpful, info such as making sure to close mush while doing so.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Is there a way to have plugin windows outside of mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugin windows? no. external programs reading stuff from mushclient? sure
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I have some of bast plugins loaded. It some mini windows but I can't move the windows to my other monitor? So can you do that if you use two monitors?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you cannot display bast's miniwindows anywhere outside the big box that defines MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Alright, thank you.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know what if anything the wearable numbers 26 29 30 and 31 are used for?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: reserved for something new.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's a negative, Nuanse.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: imm things then?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Another negative.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: damn
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triv aura, portal wish, iirc arrows
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Portal is 32.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have a triv aura equipped and portal wish
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aura is 28.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Arrows, though...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the numbers are dynamic then
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any hunters on?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I have hunter
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: triv aura might be, maybe those should be shown in wearable
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wearable is wrong
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They are, Nuanse.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I have triv aura and I dont see anything in wearable :P
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The flag is 'above' - doesn't show on wearable though o.0
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wearable is indeed wrong. Trivia sleeping bag, according to eqdata, is slot 32, not 33.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aura of Trivia is slot 30.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it became wrong with archery
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: with question, vakien found a bug :)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He actually noted the bug a few days back.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Regarding slot 31, anyway.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thought I'd posted about that a month or so ago
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: not me
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or maybe Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sonofab... I built a db capture from eqdata, but seeded with wearable... best change the seed table
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, Cizra posted it.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Posted it early this morning, in fact... 4:00 am MUD time.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless you posted it on a different forum, Abelinc, nothing in my notes from you on bugs regarding wearable recently.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, looking back to see when/where I'd had a conversation about the high numbers all being wrong
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Seems kind of strange that wearable and eqdata don't pull from the same source... oh well
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really strange, wearable is little more than a helpfile
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can't see wearable as being such a heavy use command that dynamically generating would be an altogether unwarranted load
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And for the record, I think helpfiles could do with dynamic fields also :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dtype, level, stats affecting, which classes get it - no need for separate showskill/helpfile imo
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think the bottom of area helpfiles should be dynamically generated
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I disagree with that
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could implement showskill as just showing the bottom part of a helpfile, with the current data, but no reason to not have the showskill data in the helpfile
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm rarely looking for both halves of that information at the same time, so it's just spam to me
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, showskill is personalized for the viewer while helpfiles should not be
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why not personalise via dynamism?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because a helpfile should be universally-correct
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: costs cpu and io
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't tell this character one thing and my other character another thing
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have character-based commands for character-specific information
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pretty obvious what is personalised and what isn't
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a helpfile because not everyone knows about the obvious
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Do hunters equip bows as wielded weapons, or is there a bow slot like arrows?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dabbil Tech: wielded, no special slot that I know of
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can be wielded or second
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Got wearable nailed except for 28 and 29 - I assume 1 is arrows, not sure on the other
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if your mouse seems to double click on a single click sometimes, is that a sign that it's starting to spoil?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: I usually take that as a sign it's time for a new mouse.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: WIreless or wired?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wired
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i was overseas for several months, came back and got a new pc/changed OS, and only noticed the weird behaviour then
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: i've never had that happen on a mouse ever
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it might be a driver issue, but it doesn't seem very consistent
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: just before buying a new one, rip your buttons off and see if you can clean them and put them back on, but not all buttons come off of the mouse, so it might break it...
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: failure mode for buttons is always that clicks don't register, not that you get too many
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: googling suggests that it can be because contacts register 2x when you click down and again when letting go
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: My mouse  has the integrated buttons that are part of the rest of the mouse, so when I start getting double clicks it usually means the plastic is bent far enough down that I'm getting phantom clicks
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: think opening the mouse and cleaning it would help?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Probably
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i had a buddy break one tho, so careful
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you buy cheap ones like I do, it might not be worth cleaning them... of course, maybe the reason why mine last only a few years before this starts happening to them is because I only buy cheap ones...
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A good mouse costs 40-50 euro at least.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the ones I buy cost less than 10USD
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: thrift shop all the way, 99cents
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the metal in the switch or the plastic pusher or both are wearing thin
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I'm too lazy to go shop for these things, so it's all amazon...
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My mouse and keyboard costs more than some people's entire computer. I'm fuzzy about these things.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My issue is I have giant manhands... all these pissant little mice barely fit under 2 of my fingers, let alone my whole hand :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The Logitech G500 is passable in that regard, though the thumb buttons actuate when I don't want them to :-(
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the logitech M518 was the best mouse ever made
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: ^ what im still using
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though you could also get a G5
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but the G5 is a lot more expensive
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i prefer to purchase inexpensive ($15 or less) optical three-button mouses -- if you pay a lot more, they may breakdown sooner (microsoft attitude: if the customer is willing to pay more, screw the customer sooner)
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I've had mine for 8 years or so
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats why you don't buy mice from microsoft =p
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: more expensive stuff breaks sooner? That's a nice business idea.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: you are paying for the designer label
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can't see the g5, only the g500... is it still produced?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: had a friend who upgaded his mx518 to a g500. hated it and went back to the 518
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i was contemplating g500 if i was gonna replace my mouse
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: really? I love my g500.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not always, Zade. Sometimes cheap stuff is just junk.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: he wrote something about it recently, lemme dig it up
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And sometimes expensive stuff has higher quality.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Redryn, g500 is really nice, but depending on your grip you might need to disable the thumb buttons - one is defaulted to browser back button... was very annoying
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can't you change it to do something else?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: E.g. my das keyboard compared to a cheap junk membrane keyboard
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or you know. learn to grip properly =p
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya some people always put too much peasure on it tho
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well sure, but could be something else... that I accidentally activate all the time :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: stop gripping your mouse too tightly? :p
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: theres no place for your thumb to rest like on the 518?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Under certain circumstances I do deathgrip it :D but it is when I have a loose grip that my thumb slides up to the button
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I thought that's what the internet was for...
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/logitech_gaming_mouse_g500.jpg
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it looks like the 518 anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: bit different
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in terms of the side grip
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some companies with the fancy looking mouse, produce those mouses for "business" use, not for gaming use -- so under normal business "executive" use, the mouse is hardly used at all, and lasts for years -- intensive gaming is unusual "mouse abuse", and if the mouse breaks down, the rich executive is able to afford another mouse, or another computer (executive computers are "supposed" to be totally replaced with a newer model every year - and thus never break down)
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (you poorer schmucks using the computer for games don't count)
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fwiw, Logitech has amazing warranty service.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: also those tiny mouse switches may only be clicked so many times before they wear out
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when Logitech makes production mistakes, they yet ship the slightly defective equipment out, and the product is sold at a slight discount 
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So they're like every company ever? =p well. Not every one. but come on now.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now I'm looking, the RAT 7 looks pretty nice - anyone used it?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, it looks like a joke
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i kinda ruled it out based on aesthetics alone :p
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i get basts eq manager plugin window to open back up, i forgot how to fix it/re open it
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: how do I turn off the cpmmunication log window? 
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I usually do 1m for basic, 1 tp if they get it really nice.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: So I have a new phone after the last one broke. the galaxy s3 is the one I'm on now, but I can't seem to play the game correctly now. the screen constantly scrolls when I press off the keyboard, so it doesn't respond when I press a button, nor will it let me add new buttons to the screen.. any help?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: change the fullscreen option under menu->options->window
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ankier Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: fail
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth breathes, "Rawr," into Ankier's ear. HAWT!
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Zaereth: type .togglefullscreen
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: thanks, looks like keeping fullscreen off is the trick
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: that only does stuff for android versions less than 3.0
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it works fine on my 4.1.1 S3 in blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: wierd, i have a galaxy nexus and a xoom and it does nothing for me
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: does the s3 have hardware system buttons?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just one home button, the menu and back buttons are part of the touchscreen
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Bast.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course, has the hardware volume/power buttons.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: yeah I'm not sure why it happened, I can say with certainty that I had nor changed any settings. I simply loaded the game after the update a few days ago and the screen wasn't working correctly. 
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: it is a bug in the client, sometimes how it interrogates the operating system if there is a notification bar fails and gets a false positive
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: my keyboard on my new phone takes up so much space on the screen I cant really use it on horizontal view, and it takes quite a lot on vertical as well. is there anything I can do about this on the galaxy s3?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I got a transparent keyboard
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: root your phone and install your own rom and pick a smaller keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: or pick up a bluetooth keyboard you can use with your phone
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Plenty of transparent keyboard apps for download without rooting :p
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: heh I lack the skills to do that. 
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Bluetooth is also a nice option. Much better if you can afford it.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: maybe soon. I'll look into transparent options. any that use slide? 
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I found I didn't use the bluetooth kb as much as I thought I would though.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: anyone here ever purchased LED's? If i order a 10mm LED, is it actually 10mm wide? seems huge
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: the sizes i see are 10mm, 8mm, 5mm, 3mm
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: http://www.ladyada.net/images/arduino/LEDs/ledsizes.jpg Not that big. The bottom one is 10mm.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Yes that is the actuall size of the bulb.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Psst!
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I has a aardmush question.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I wanna use mapper portals but my alt doesnt have the portals.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: So if I save a seperate world would it still use the same mapper? but not the portals?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I'm still exploring my map so I'm not sure how to go about working with all my portals.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the portals and rooms are stored in the same file, so no
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could create a new world, make a copy of the database (Aardwolf.db), rename it to your new world name, then delete all the portals
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Anyone availible to help me make a small mush client script?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: bast u there, cuz that didnt work, mneq eq show    and mneq eq front  did not bring up the window for eq
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hehe i reloaded the plugin and now that worked
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any ideas on how/why none of my browsers will play any audio? Yet anything locally stored sounds great
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I've cleared caches in all of them, updated to the latest Flash
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: device settings?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mixer options in Sound settings have browsers muted?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Nope that looked fine
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are the poker game announcements on gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like no
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowraptor Tech: anyone know what to do when their mapper goes out?  I had to update mush to get another plugin to work... and now with the update my mapper won't work.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Cool. Edge Online is reporting that their anonymous sources say the new XBox will not support used games. Once you buy it, you own it for life. The system will require an always-on internet connection. Disc-based releases will come on a 50GB Blu-ray disc.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: that sucks....
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That kind of destroys any yearning I had for purchasing a new XBox.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: That guarantees I'll never buy one
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless their games come insanely cheap (as in... $5, you own for life), I see no reason to dump thousands of dollars into a system I can't play used games on.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: and if your system blows up...you cant use those games on a new one either. gotta replace em all
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Rusk.. I'd think they'd do something like Steam where they're attatched to your XBL profile
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: steam sucks too...
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: steam is amazing
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Seconding Amazing. It has it's problems - but what doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: on a slow internet connection its a pain in the ass that has made me decide not to get anymore steam based games
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I love Steam for that--I've put my games on about 6 different installs over the years
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I have 10 year old games on it. think I have the cd's from 10 year old games?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Microsoft is leaning towards digital content, to be honest.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods at Mokg.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I know I don't.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, and I think that sucks, Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its more green friendly
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: I hate digital content, would always rather have in an external format
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: ah, if by "life", they mean "not you" but the "xbox", bad deal 
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: games going from those huge boxes to little ones save millions of acres of forest. getting rid of them completely is just furthering that
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: They should atleast offer an option to save the file or whatever to your own person external hard drive or something...
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: They're talking about making Win 9 not allow you to install any apps that didn't come from Microsoft's app store. Even Apple's not quite that dumb.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but an internet account is at least $600 per year for "life" -- big overhead
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: and then its hackable too
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Good internet, yes...but most of us are already going to have internet ANYWAY.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Invest in a mobile phone which can share Internet, and your prepaid Internet can be used on a laptop too.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if i didn't play this mud, i wouldn't require the internet at all
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trurien, thats not a viable option, especially for games.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Depends on what games. I don't usually bother with most games.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I'd still have the net for my email, my website, Skyping with my family who are all 800+ miles away, and my other games.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Most games, Trurien. Most games.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: For doing work, pushing/pulling from git, Aard and social stuff, that's fine.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: wasting your life playing internet games -- gets tedious after a decade
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: talking about wasting your life playing internet games while playing an internet game?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: obviously he isnt playing it
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusk looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: then again, being disabled, I have far more time than money...and yes, Zade, it does. I DO do other things, but on days when my health won't let me be active, my computer is my entertainment. Netflix, talking with friends, ebooks, games, photo editing...
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "Where did your life go." - "Spent a lot sitting in a room somewhere typing at a keyboard -- almost like work, but not getting paid."
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I can't really avoid some of that, Zade.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: It's that or go stir-crazy from boredom
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Netflix is like watching old movies and paying $8 a month on top of the access method
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it'd cost me more than that monthly to rent from redbox
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: damn, 8 whole dollars
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i'd prefer to pay $8 and get the actual DVD of a decent movie - replay is free after the initial purchase
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I love my job, sitting at home, typing on a keyboard, and getting paid. :D
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I prefer getting it all for free thanks to my internet connection
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If I truly wanted to, I could work 24 hours... and get paid every bit of it... But I'm not that insane yet.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: You could work 24 hours in a week, that would also be quite insane...
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: my entire entertainment budget for a month is $80. $50 of that is internet, $8 is Netflix. The other $22 let me go out to eat once or twice a month, depending on where.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Where else am I going to manage to get as much entertainment for that little?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: anyone on linux and mush and has a few minutes for a few tells?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I used to be. Dumped MUSHclient, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I still remember it well, so shoot thy questions.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You're better off just asking here, Kelvar
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: hmm ok...the  thing is, Im on ubuntu and running mush through wine, but if i run mush first, any other app i run after that that uses the sc is "deaf" after that
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: so i have to run the audio/video app first, then mush to be able to hear/see audio/video
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What's your Wine audio output driver?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: no idea how to check that
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: run "winecfg", click on Audio tab
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It should be set to Pulseaudio or Alsa, if there's such an option.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: hmm, tried 3 different options under audio in wine, and same thing every time... like wine steals complete audio device and rest apps that use audio dont work
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: any ideas anyone?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: is there a way I can use my blackberry to go onto the internet with my laptop?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: any technically briliant person willing to help a newb set up something for BB?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If it ain't the BB10, throw it away :P
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's all the help I can offer :P
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: its the blackberry 9320 curve
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What do you need setup? I can't guarantee I can help, but I can promise I wont' be able to without more info.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: I got a program called tether for my phone so I can use it as a modem for my laptop, but it says I need to set up my apn, which I'm unsure how to do
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't aware BB's could tether tbh
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: been on the web but every site I try says "bad ateway"
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: http://support.thycotic.com/KB/a174/apn-error-on-blackberry.aspx
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: While that's not directly related to your issue, the site linked has some APN settings you can tryu.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: try*
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: on android client my aliases arent working... help?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: hey, i have a HTC with android and windows its touchscreen,what would be better ,mushclient or blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: hiw does it do windows?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: MC, assuming you have the screen realestate for it.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming it's full windows, MUSH
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: it runs a type of windows the whole formate of the phone works like a  windows and has mobleword,excel,
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: what phone is it?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: old htc ,not sure what type
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: well tomorrow im getting mb and then going to go get aard on my internet explore built in or should i do it throught the java
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it's some type of windows mobile, you probably can't just run any old windows app on it.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: unless it has windows 8
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I got wifi extender, it says it's linked
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but my devices seem to be connecting to the router and not to it
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: The router's got a hotter ass.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrowfire Tech: how i can make the letters on my client bigger??
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrowfire Tech: i am using MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: go to file - world properties - then output (or one of the others) should have a font size option
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idiota Tech: can anyone help me update my room database?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idiota Tech: working on setting up aard on a new machine...
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: whats your main characters name?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone know of a script which helps you prac stuff after each remort?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody hauppage, i'd never buy another device from them
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: my aardmush just went monochrome and white text on white background on the command line!
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bobthegreat basically, yeah, but possible alternatives to disabling are to just couch what the trigger does now in the appropriate code-block of your conditional: if variable=false then do what the trigger already does now else do nothing.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calga Tech: hey guys
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish stretches luxuriously.  Kinda makes you want to doesn't it? 
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Duckbat down for anyone else?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: isup.me
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: up for me
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which checks the server is up, not the application
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And is usually irrelevant
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: up for me. *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You should probably be more specific. "Duckbat down for anyone else?" is not the same as "Is Duckbat's searches down for anyone else?"
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pretty obvious what is meant by 'down'
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, because the site is up, not down. The searches seem to not be working. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Never said the site. Said 'duckbat' which is the application. If the searches are not working, then the application is down
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ambiguity is not your friend. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By the way, it's not down, just slow. Came up for me.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: My S&D GUI was dragged as small as possible, so now I cant grab the corner to open it back up. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't do that
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can edit the state file if you want
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: tks abe, gonna try it.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: xset reset gui, just reset its location but didnt expand it. Sadly.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Gonna have to start turning my PC off more often... daughter likes to pound on the keyboard/mouse
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then delete its state file...the state file is in the plugins\state folder, with a name that looks stupid...that silly-looking name is two huge-and-random-looking numbers...one number is the same for all of them,that's the world ID...the other number is the plugin's ID which you can see by looking at the plugin's text
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delete the state file with the name that has the plugin ID for the S&D (with MUSH closed)
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks, gonna try it out. After I delete it do I need to replace it with anything?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it'll be created from scratch on launch
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: anyone know how to delete the xset mark from s&d?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: set a new mark
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: doesn't help me for vidblain.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so sad :(
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Did the trick Abe, thanks. Man those ID#s are long..... had two that were very very similiar.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's because we get lazy and copy/paste uids instead of generating new ones
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: really? I always used the in-MUSH generator
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i used to just copy paste a framework plugin and add one to the id, so i had a bunch in sequence
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then i accidentally made two the same number, so i usually generate a new one for every plugin now :P
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting. Ubuntu smartphones are coming out in October.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: are the phones running on unity?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I imagine they run on batteries, Heis
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Heisenburger smacks himself in the head.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know, didn't read too much about it, but thought it interesting.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: yeah. didn't ubuntu design unity just to make it a "phone-friendly" os?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: basically they ruined an  otherwise awesome os for a phone
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Like Windows?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: 8. yes
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm switching to regular debian next time I install, ubuntu is too gucky now.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: yeah. mint seems pretty good too
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just can't see ubuntu being able to compete with android for phones. Maybe I'm missing something.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It doesn't need to compete, there are those people who will use it regardless
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: installing debian is pretty annoying
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: last time I tried the installer didn't understand how to connect wifi with WPA2
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure, Vakieh, but android is linux and open source, so that technical reason is not there for ubuntu.. I dunno, I just don't see that many ubuntu-lovers around. Linux lovers, sure, but not ubuntu.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: switching to ubuntu over android, I mean
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: any vmware fusion 5 users here?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suomi Tech: jar or jad download for midpssh 
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suomi Tech: tech off*
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: so im making a regex in mush to collect urls... can anyone break this dri gob?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ^(.*)(https?\:\/\/)([\w\.-]+)\.([a-z\.]{2,6})([\/\w \.-\?\=\+%]*)(\'?)$
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: whoops.. 
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: still
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm sure there's probably premade regexes to capture urls if you google for them
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i did... they were lacking but i took from them and learned
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: as most people ask questions about regular expressions here - http://www.xkcd.com/1171/
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: my regex caught that url nicely  =)
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and yeah i have perl
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and yeah i hate perl
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: talk to the hand aliens
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ok i don't hate perl... i hate what most people do with perl
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urimaru Tech: looking for someone who knows MUSHclient very well and could help with customization. Please msg me
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urimaru Tech: aight, maybe someone knows Mudlet very well)
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrakun Tech: anyone know of a trigger detector for zmud/cmud
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrakun Tech: or one that can be run mudside in diku
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrakun Tech: looking to find info on mudside trigger detector where one may find such resources pm me
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's no such thing as a "trigger detector".
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: why would you need the info on the mudside trigger detection?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Obviously a MUDside trigger detector is just the inverse of the completely solved problem of player detector.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: So, if player, return false!
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I made a fool detector, but it kept going off whenever I logged in.  Clearly broken.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Is it possible to remove windows on MUSHclient? Such as: Group and the health/mana/moves bars?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: I have them moved to the far corners lol.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ctrl+shift+p
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Disable
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: remove the plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Then give Fiendish 2 tps for his services.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: I have one TP. I can offer you that one?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do not worry about it. It was a joke.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Oh, sorry. I'm to serious.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Thanks again tho :)
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Outerspace: Fiendish was the one who wrote or augmented most of the plugin for Aard-MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: I really feel you deserve atleast 1 TP lol.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: I personally want to give you one. But you got to explain how to give it to you.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, uhh
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Help <what?> so I can give it.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it costs 100k to convert a trivia point to a token that you can give
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Not an issue.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see the 'token' option in 'help tpspend'
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: he doesn't do it for the money, though, Outerspace...he does it because he loves Aard
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that is half correct
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Which half? Lol.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I do it because I enjoy programming
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: That sentence alone earns the TP.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that too
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish needs to program a food replicator! That would be sweet!
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: question 1 on any "are you a masochist" self-diagnostic is "do you enjoy programming"
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Location of someone who can convert TP to token?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: wrong channel
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: help tpspend has it
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: runto ravi from recall
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: From recall, type runto ravi, then type tpspend token I think
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Yes. Complete. Where you located Fiendish?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: snooky's pub
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: There.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hey turie, come hold this tp token for me
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm way over my item limit
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do what?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: NOD32 is a good antivirus, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: windows defender!
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: no idea used avast for a long time
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: avast sux
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: ha, windows defender.
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try an OS that isn't broken by default instead :P
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to set an alarm through a lua trigger i have(for cmud) and nothing i have tried so far has worked, anyone know the correct syntax?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So I decided to change from the Logitech G500 mouse to a R.A.T. 7. Best mouse I have ever used o.0
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: how do i make a "mapper goto" alias that will work?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it already exists.
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: just type mapper goto <roomnumber>
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: mapper thisroom for room nbr
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: room numbers also listed with mapper find and mapper area
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: <alias   match="^map (.*?)$"   enabled="y"   regexp="y"   send_to="10"   sequence="100"  >  <send>mapper %1</send>  </alias>
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Aliens.. what is that supposed to do?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: what it does do is let your type map instead of mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Was like.. looks too short to be anything SUPER interesting.. lol
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: im sure it can easily be modified to send mapper goto
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh yeah, I was just lost on what it did
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it does exactly what was asked for, makes an alias to shorten the mapper command
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yes, you've already said as much =p
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone have a clue why my trigger, which trigger off a room name, fires twice in a row?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: have the trigger twice?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: bad pattern matching ?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got a trigger doing something with roomtags, perhaps resending?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: room name in room desc ?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: likely have the trigger twice in two different plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debug mode?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: maybe a roomtag, hard to say its of the actual room name, not the description
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Think if I change it to a descrition it works fine. Tks
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tried ^room name     ?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yup. ALWAYS anchor your triggers
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon! 
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: nope, no bad trigger
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Abusing triggers is against the Policies...
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if that fired your triggers suck :P
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens is agreeing with that Seltsimees Dagnir person again...
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: illustrating the need for anchors ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How are you going to anchor when a mob name might well be 'Dagnir Tech:'
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: brb, renaming my manor mobs
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope. it's about $
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Verdugo Vaspious Tech: anyone know much about cmud?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Verdugo Vaspious Tech: anyone on good with cmud?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ubuntu cellphones.....next tablets which can run MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilddog Tech: hi I'm using jaws with mush client I'm finding I have to use the jaws cursor to read all the incoming text is their anyway I can change this?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilddog Tech: ok is their any way to read the game info with out using the jaws cursor?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I open a webpage from mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: from a script, more specifically
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=3018
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But that only shows hyperlinks, though
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: try this: OpenBrowser ("http://www.mushclient.com")
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat thanks Heisenburger heartily.
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Exactly what I was looking for :)
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I found a bug in WINE at one point related to openbrowser
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder if it's fixed
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bruceleeroy Tech: has anyone bought the new alienware comp?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. still on thinkpads
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way to turn off the uptime counter on cmuds status bar?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: tezt
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: anyone know why my mouse wont install?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: on your phone/
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: did you plug it in ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: cat5 cable?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: yes...when i remove it and plug it in again my pc freeze
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: is it usb ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: you should probably go into your device manager, and remove all mouse devices, then plug it in.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: no not usb
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ps/2 ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: cant do anything
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: duno whats ps 2
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ps/2 devices don't like to be hotpluged
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: people still have ps/2 mice?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Don't be mean lol.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: round type of plug
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: non-USB mice aren't supposed to be plugged and unplugged while the computer is running
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: im using a ps2 keyboard right now
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: yeah round plug
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: thats ps2.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: shut computer down, plug it in, start computer.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they aren't?  I do it all the time and the computer doesn't care.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you cant plug ps2 stuff while power it on
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: the mouse is on tho, but nothing on pc
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: older ones, some newer ps2 tolerates it, but it's "not good"
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: and my keyboard works perfect
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: good for you, now switch it off, you crashed it by pluging in ps2 while power on
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: if you lucky no hardware was broken
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So, I have discovered invheader, statmod, resistmod, and now weapon tags from invdetails. The helpfile is completely empty (help typetags) - does anyone know any other invdetail tags?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whoops, also 'spells' tag
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: skillmod is one.  I dunno what's being used for aflag mods, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ooh, yes skillmod, nice one :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think it's set up to have a different flag for each section of stuff, so things like lights might have other tags dedicated to those light-specific details.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: on an unrelated note, can anyone tell me why this regex pattern is removing the periods from the capture group data? "\((open %if\([\w\.]*,[\w\.]*,[newsud]\);[newsud])\)"
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: %if?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the target text to match in the %if() function corresponds to door name (can be blank, a single word, or in the form of number.word)
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: %if() is a cmud function, unrelated to regex beyond any delimiting that needs to be done.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the pattern is matching on, for example, "(open %if(2.door,2.door,w);w)", but when I refer to the capture group via \1 it becomes "open %if(2door,2door,w);w"
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: assuming it's in a %subregex if you're using \1, that sounds like a bug...
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: though i can't reproduce it with a simplified example - #show %subregex("12.34", "^(.+)$", "(\1)")
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does the exact example replicate? (no cmud here)
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Looks to me to be an issue with handling greedy *, tbh
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: doesn't look like it, there's only one capture and it's stripping the periods
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: unless \w is matching on commas as well or the use of . or \. is somehow matching on them, there's no greediness.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: \w doesn't match on commas
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bah, found the answer, totally unrelated to regex.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: Any way to make the color_consider plugin preserve Aura flags as their respective color?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: Ok ive been trying to set an anti idle trig in aardmush but for what ever reason i cant get it to trigger properly and or the line itself doesnt always seem to show
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: mushclient ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use a 15 min timer instead
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i find 7 min more reliable
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i basically just want it to run the "exp" command so its nothing major off chance im tabed out/etc
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: <timer enabled="y" minute="7" second="0.00" offset_second="0.00" ><send>p</send></timer>
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: More reliable? The timeout is more than 15 minutes, therefore a 15 minute timer is 100% reliable
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i have had disconnects when i was using a 10 min timer
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: zero on 7
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anecdotal evidence aside, any issue which would cause a disconnect on 10 or 15 minutes will act the same on a 7
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: first time i had it set for "send to world", it did nothin, 2nd time i had it set for send to command
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: works for me.... 
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: it just pot it in chat the 2nd time
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: put*
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: 10min works for me 100%
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: well ive not really added anything myself to this aside from 2 trigs which one doesnt seem to work despite my changes
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: is there a way I can get mccp for a bbssh client?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes, what os are you using?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: 7.1
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: the 9320 curve
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: windows? you can try using duckbats mud proxy, it will give you mccp and a gmcp and a mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the way to get mccp via bbssh would be to use it to connect to a system which is running a MUD client
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mercutio Tech: quick question: I got a PtP wireless modem.   When I click  on the connection, it sometimes just hangs and does nothing, and other times it switches to verifying username/password, then gives an error that remote compute did not respond.    If I am getting that error, it is a safe to conclude the problem is at my providers end?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd basically be running something on either your home computer or an Internet server somewhere...you'd tell bbssh to telnet or ssh into that computer where you'd be running a client such as tinyfugue, tintin++ or duckbat's proxy
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: someone ported duckbat's proxy to linux?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: how secure is duckbat?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: i see sqli i think
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nothing is secure since all mud connections are plaintext anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: im talking more the site itself
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc the connection between you and duckbat's proxy can be ssh
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duckbat's proxy isn't a site, it's software
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd like to run the proxy on my vps
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i think the duckbat site was compromised for a short time
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: php and databases on  simple site
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing is secure unless you can guarantee the security of both the transport and both transmitter and receiver
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: is the site maintained?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i tried to compile the proxy with mono, but it relies on some windows libraries
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: dagnir, i also tried on linux and gave up
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the transport? i don't think you know how some crypto methods work, nuts
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: http://duckbat.com/index.php?page=user&id=1
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: there user enum
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what does that get you?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: and if i 'OR' the login i wonder what happens
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: increase the 1 to any number and get every userid
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: and user type
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and? I can get all those usernames from aard already
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you shouldn't be able to list users anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: bad practice
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I can give you the user name of every imm on Aardwolf.  Isn't going to do you any good.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is no point to reveal such information to unlogged users
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: cause now i can put that in a list and brute
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: assume i dont know that i can get every user in game
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's the account for anyway?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're imagining a security situation on a site which holds public information...
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And so what if you can log in?  None of us are really going to care.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: thats what i do for a living
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you do what for a living?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: so, you can destroy a DB.  Not like we have our personal info in there
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you imagine issues that don't actually exist for a living...gotcha
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: so what if i shell teh site and drop something malicious on it??
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iwuvaard's database will gladly show you usernames and passwords
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Being able to log in to the site doesn't mean you can edit the source of the site
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: pw reuse
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my only concern is how the passwords are kept. if they're plaintext somewhere, you could get the user list and passwords and i bet plenty of people use the same login for aard
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: all sorts of stuff lol
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: if i can sqli the site i can prob get the user db with pw
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anyone using the same pword for aard is an idiot and not worth bothering about...the site isn't responsible for that
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: sort that check for reuse go from there
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and then username+variants and password+variants for emails accounts
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And why don't you just to and try to sqli the site, instead of just saying "what if"?  Would only take you 2 seconds.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and yes people do it a lot
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming you haven't already tried and failed
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: because im not a criminal
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And are just going on and on for the heck of it
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: fine, I'll try it
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: becasue i can???
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol i can talk about this shit all day
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: stuff*
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the password for iwuvaard's database is even public and displayed on the site
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's no such thing as online security
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hey look, sqli didn't work.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh well
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can not be secure, you can only mitigate the damage
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tell that to the average bank customer with online acctount access
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens starts to giggle to himself like a little girl.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so people are dumb, what's new?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: people imagine they aren't.. oh wait that not new either
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'd be much more worried about NFC credit cards than my online bank access
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as if waving the card over a POS is somehow quicker than sliding it in the slot
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: anyways, net sec ftw
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not worried about my online banking one bit. we're using smart-card auth here
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is why i campaign against the clampdowns on cash
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I put it all in the mattress...but then it gets all soggy because I have a waterbed
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: water beds are to be banned under water use controls
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's for the earth
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: don't some banks use otp?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's OK, I fill it with pondwater, so it's recycled
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you don't own the pondwater
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and OTCC numbers
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: banks from the last decade
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nono, I own the pondwater, it's just the rainwater I don't
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, well that's ok then
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you could fill it with urine, but heaven forbid you ever had a waterbed leak.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'll sell the rainwater to you.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: maybe you could fill it with urine if you had a pet elephant .. i doubt you could fill it yourself
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: Problem: Not enough water. Malthusian types: We have too many people. Get rid of some people or limit water use. Tech types: Get more water.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: water with your hydrogen car ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm for getting more water AND getting rid of some people
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's plenty of water
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: make water with your hydrogen car ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: burn more fuels. burning stuff always produces water. *nodself
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: true story
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens noggles about the room indecisively.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Dagnir's sounding like the IMF
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mission impossible people?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tom cruise does PR for international monetary funds
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tom cruise is a freak
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's true, nuts. oxidization produces water 
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i believe thats techniclly true...
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: more cars!
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that's why car tailpipes drip water
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: more hindenburgs !
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so, problem solved. next problem
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we need global laws and taxation to get rid of this scourge of society, water
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few new companies are working on new dirigibles
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I bet if you got the water most of us waste taking showers you'd have plenty
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is already plenty, ontuct, that was kinda the whole point
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you should pee while taking showers to save on toilet flushing
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't waste water taking showers, as it doesn't change the amount of water that exists
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it changes the amount of fresh water tho
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can waste energy for water processing, not water
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my showers don't produce saltwater
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: dont like a good brine soak?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, there are two types of people - the ones who pee in the shower and dirty f**king liars
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: protip: anything short of the entire word is not a sufficient mask for making curse words acceptable on non-curse channels
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i meant to say freaking, but censored some of it because people might be offended
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wrong number of letters
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, just a heads up
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm no immortal
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish looks at you, says "And I am immortal," and then stabs you in the chest with a dagger.  FREAK!
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: why is it when I type A (for all) when doing a note list, it will list till halfway and then I get disconnected from the mud?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: too much data for your connection to process at once
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: so what shall I do?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pagesize 400
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: he's hitting all, he's bypassing the pagesize
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ah, hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't hit a
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't hit all
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're undoing the fact that you're using paging
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: no, set your pagesize to something like 50...and don't hit a
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's using mccp, so 400 should be reasonable to prevent disconnects if he doesn't use "a"
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vesuviou nods
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use client's scroll within each set of 400
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I see that 500 is the upper limit. might as well use that
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder why pagesize has an upper limit
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: provided your connection speed is happy with it
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: btw, I wanted to view all the GQ within the region  of lev 9 to 16, can I do that? Or must I view the rest of the level and filter manually?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: gq ranges 9
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: gq ranges 11
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the latter, which we explained the other day
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ooOh.. nice
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not the past ones, which he had been looking for
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I want to view the past one, not the current GQ of a certain level
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right,so you can do gq history, and filter on your end
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you didn't specify past, yes, you have to filter manually for past gq cycles
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ok thanks, although its very inconvenience to view the other level as well
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then pay more attention and record :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vesuviou nods
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If I want to get GMCP data, which plugin do I call again?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be getting it from broadcast
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Thanks, got it :)
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: is there some income calculator plugin for mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: I'm trying to install mushclient on a mac emulator (crossover pro). Any idea why the emulator won't recognize mushclient.exe (from newest version on fiendish's site) as an installer file?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: installer file?  It's just an executable
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: testing
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: failing
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: great, just logged on after a long time on mushclient, and im only getting my main window, any clues on how to get all the addons up and running?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags, are they on?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: the ones i want are yep
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bottom master one?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: yep its on
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: thanks for help, i got old stats, map and help addons working again. Any new ones i should consider adding in?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: eh?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you should consider getting a rainbow script
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods at Mokg.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: hmmm, that does nice
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: that script is awfully painful.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I love it
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Do the MUD a favor and don't.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: i like it.. it bring life and color to the mud
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i think it's pretty
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods at Vesrai.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: everyone loves it besides those people who always need something to complain about
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: is there an addon for spells, i keep seeing affect off lines
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vesrai is agreeing with that Mokg person again...
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: tag spells off
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: err... type 'tags', it's there
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the add-on for spells which will utilize those rather than just turning them off, finger bast
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: thankyou
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: crossover pro, eh
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: does that work well?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: gotta get my head back in the game before i start rewritting all my lovely addons :P
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: any users of standalone LUA here ?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Probably just ones who will tell you it's Lua.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But I'm not one of those :)
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: im looking at an article on lua.org from Dr. Dobb's Journal, that implies that tk bindings are standard part of the lua package, im having trouble finding it
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: http://www.lua.org/ddj.html
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't read that as saying it's part of the standard package, merely that they created a binding toolkit for it...also note that that page is 16 years old!
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i saw it's age...
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try something like http://www.tset.de/ltcltk/ or http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~celes/tklua/
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: heh, im actually reading the readme to ltcltk as we speak
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: starting to think wxPython might just be easier tho
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: is there anyway to unmark a room in mapper noportal?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: like, this room shouldn't be marked noportal, how do I fix that?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "mapper purgeroom" when standing in the room and then move out and back in
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: was hoping to avoid that becuase it was a clan room without a proper room ID, but I guess i'll live :p
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim gallantly tips his hat to Bast.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone else having issues with outlook 2013?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably. google "outlook 2013 issues"
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: my bad thanks for the reminder to use my brain :P
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone got a second for an SSH X session question?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: is there a way to capture/trigger from a mapper room # upon entrance of a room?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: On MUSH. I want to set up a simple trigger when I enter a room. But the room shares names with a few others, and I dont want to use the room descritpion.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyway to trigger from entering the room, by using its room #?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: obviously yes, but you'll need to do it in a plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh I see, thanks. How simple would the plugin be?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: The action I want to perform, is wield xxxxx, and dual xxxxx.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Coool, thanks. Prolly about time I look into it more.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I have been using the descriptions, working fine, but Im thinking of changing to a no brief mode.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ver 4.77, came with the handler installed already it seems?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bromance Tech: I need some help with some pretty easy-as-pie aliases re: MUSH mapper. I used to have these three aliases that were just "ma xxx", "mf xxx" and "go xxx", where ma = mapper area, mf = mapper find and go was mapper goto. Can someone help me make those again?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bromance Tech: I know the 'title' part was like ma * and the body was like mapper area %1, but I dunno where to send to, all that jazz.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #alias {ma *} {mapper area %1}
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: follow suit
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: no need for the *
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: oh wait, MUSH
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bromance Tech: Thanks! I'll be sure to fido a TP token your way, Mokg :)
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: dont worry about it
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: how am i able to type the hole alias out without having my single colan going to the next line?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not english
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: uhh im trying lol
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I'm guessing you want to know how to do this ; right? type two of them like ;;
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: or use ; at the start of line
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cornor Cerashor :
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: ;
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: aah
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: and that should help with the mapper cexits?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: great thanks alot :)
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: anyone know why this mush hp prmpt guage and the info bar always shows up even after i relocate/uncheck  the info bar and save world details it  dont stay in same place ?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define "uncheck"
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: view-> info bar
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: something could be activating it, I suppose. that stays disabled for me.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: its always reverting to as on, and  the promt guage in middle of screen
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe you aren't saving properly? Not sure. Are you switching computers or monitors?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: but i do switch between 2 differnt profiles
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define profiles
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: 2 diff mus folders  1 for each dif char
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you save for both of them?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my mush prompt bar pops up in the middle of the screen if i switch computers with different resolutions
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ye the other one has no probs at all
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: well cant be resolutions... using same monitor
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well if you can pin down the nature of the problem to a concise bug report I'll try to fix it
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: for me the prompt bar resizes itself to way past the screen and I can not get it back, this happens occasionaly when I switch monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the state file for the health bars plugin, make sure that its mod time is when you saved
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I do I have to change it everytime
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: It would be nice if it check the screen res everytime it ran to update the state
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what are you all doing changing monitors all the time?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: the size  stays the same as i have adjusted it just not in same location as i put it
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: desktop - laptop.  I run it on a flash drive
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and pretty sure redryn is a dropboxer
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: it also happens every now and then when I put it on my other monitor for my desktop, it is lower res
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: desktop-laptop is common i'm sure
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I could explain the reason why it does what it does, but the reason isn't important
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll look into it
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: it worked before, i'll try offing  plugins one by one see if i can pinpoint
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: heh that was odd.  tried one offing plugins save, restart mush down to the core plugins that comes with and nothing helped so i figure something is stuck in memory or something so i rebooted,  mush came up  wouldnt connect spewed out :alldir
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: miss
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: anyay that bug report got lost cuz comp crashed its nolonger in temp folders
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I remove bast spell up and then i cancelled myself, and it automatically spelled me back up after canceling the spells. Any ideas? 
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my idea is that one of your statements is false
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: Isnt there a way to "forget" spells?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: If memory serves, I had to do just that with Invisible
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: one of my statements is false? 
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I just checked my pluggins list, bast spellup pluggins are removed. I canceled myself. And then it canceled the spells and then automatically spelled me back up. Nothing false about my statements. 
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: show me a list of what plugins you have installed
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but hurry please. I'm going to bed
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: i'll just delete all of my bast pluggins and reinstal the ones I want. Thanks though. I'll let you know if it's still a problem after I do that.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: go to bed, i'll catch you tomorrow if I'm still having issues. thanks 
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyone else lagging horribly on Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course, now I say that, I'm not lagging so much.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: question, when it comes to adobe flash player is there some place to globaly tweak the settings for every player?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: because for whatever reason the local storage setting keeps getting reset from unlim to like 40
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: the ask toolbar - so bad, they have to try and piggy back on a java install and sneak it onto your computer.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: hmmm, I used "magical jelly bean keyfinder" to find out my CD Keys for Windows XP and Office 2003 before I reformatted...now it says the Office key isn't valid...maybe because I lost the install disc and am using an image file from tpb?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It wouldn't matter.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But the keys are specific to that version of Windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless you had a pirated key from before that has been blocked.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: No it was a legitimate key...same version of windows (XP sp3) and standard edition office (made sure)
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And yes, I'm aware there's OpenOffice and LibreOffice, but they really aren't interchangeable in terms of formatting :-/
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so just reformat things
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: retail/oem difference maybe
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: ahh perhaps...I'll try the only other image there
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't try the other image, check your version and download the correct one
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beer Cooler Tech: anyone know what cause Timer function "init_plugin" not found or had a previous error.?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Okay, so I come on and now my search & destroy text is in red O_o
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: How can I get it back to offwhite?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: How do I get rid of the timestamp on the left of every line, I am using mush client
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: right click?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: In the communication log?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no main windows it says 17:34:39 > 
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: and it is gray
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type timestamp
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: not a command
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you using Aard-MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yes the most recent version, just overwrote everything except my aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hrmmm....
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: even your aardwolf.db file?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yea, lost all mapper data I did that on accident will switch to my backup later
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aardreset will reset the layout, but timestamp in the main screen is odd.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yea I just found    timestamp_input="%H:%M:%S $ " timestamp_notes="%H:%M:%S ! "  timestamp_output="%H:%M:%S &gt
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: in my aardwolf.mcl removed it and am going to restart
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: that did it
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no idea how that got there, thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: another wierd thing I have been noticing, if I disconnect to the mud I auto log back in, I have auto login setup but never told it to log back in on disconnect
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: any ideias why gammon inventory plugins doesn't work correctly?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: get bast's, so far his is the most stable for an inventory miniwindow.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: But it's not perfect -- mine crashes somewhat often
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: I'll try it...just instaled cp progression from gammon
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: mine does to, but out of Bast's, Gammon's and another one i found made by Blainer. Bast's is the best.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: nod*
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: I got this error on bast's eq plugin "Trigger function "invdetails_redirect" not found or had a previous error." any ideias?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: how can i set ; sothat it doesnt go to the next line on an alias?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: use two of them next to each other
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: would that make a diffrence when using it in mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Any ideas what would cause spontaneous restarts in an idling computer? (like 12 times in the last 24 hours, but never when using the computer)
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: windows 7 machine btw. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: windows update?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Mine's better.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: conductive dust and humidity
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Windows update?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: perhaps blow the dust out of the powersupply and the computer 
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: not windows update. I have that turned off.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: random guess, but maybe psu voltage drops too low when idle
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I doubt humidity is a problem here either. We have almost none in winter. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: little insects in the psu
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I've asked tech to do a complete reformat and reinstall on it. If that doesn't fix it, they can at least stop blaming me. :P (it's a new/used computer that I got two weeks ago and it gradually restarts more and more often)
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Redryn: any idea how to check that?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: possibly bad ram
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not really, i suck at this techy stuff.. i always ask here when i have problems :p
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but if you have a spare psu you could swap it in and see if it solves the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: the tech should be able to check that out as a possibility, Jaenelle.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Airmeith: hmmm. It's got 8 gb since it was previously a rendering machine. *shiver* lots to check.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: then pull out one stick and see if it stops doing it.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: airmeith: so far the only thing they have tried is 'turn off restart on error' they hadn't even bothered to check the event log. :P Our IT r sux here. I've started billing them time in hopes that they'll fix my machine that I"m not allowed to touch the hardware on myself. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my uninformed opinion is that ram shouldn't be a problem, because then you'd see crashes even while using
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: may be overheating as more and more dust (and tar precipitaion) collects inside the secondhand computer
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Zade: again, that would cause crashes even when using the computer then.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: of the 65 crashes in the last 7 days, only one has been while I was at my computer. And I spend a good 8-10 hours a day in front of it. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: nonsmoker
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the usb modern or ancient
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a decade ago, usb hardware/software used to freeze the usb device(s) when the computer was either idle or sometimes when the delete option was used in the browser
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: Would it be possible to make a plug-in that would allow me to enter, say a room or mob name and it would autowalk me to that target?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: there's damn near one built into the mapper as it is
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: What do you mean? I know if you mouse over a room it shows info, is that it?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: as though the the usb went to sleep and clobbered some area that was required to permit the compuer to wak up
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: type mapper help
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: mapper help should have the details, I think it's mapper search and mapper goto that'll do what you want
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: wow Did not know there was that much to the mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: mapper find xxx
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Krache stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: mapper find 'roomname' but without the quotes. then you can click the name to walk there if I remember correctly.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: check to see if Daily Maintenance (which likes idle) is attempting to run saomething that may be causing the restart
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: idle is when things go to sleep (Pwr-Management) or when Maintenance likes to run  (even idle hdrives (or media storage) may be pwrd-down off when there is no disk-activity)
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so even kbd-activity at the computer may yet permit the hdrive to pwr-down if there was no recent disk-activity
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrump Tech: Does the Mushclient still work on Windows 7 or 8?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I'm using it on win7
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I know others are using it on win8
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrump Tech: Alright, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it's actually one of the most stable clients on those platforms
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: works fine on win7 for me
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cmud crashed often for me
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that's because cmud's programmer just puts patches over patches rather than actually writing decent code
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All software is patches over patches...
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: one of my clannies (a programmer) reverse-engineered the code to repair his and spent about 50 hours rewriting major portions of it to make it work properly.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Reverse engineering machine code is just silly
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And a 50 hour bugfix under such conditions is relatively minor
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrump Tech: So, which would be better at this point, win7 or win8?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: however he did it, it was an awful mess--bad pointers and arrays
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I keep hearing bad things about win8. All anyone can tell me about it is excuses.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Scrump, that depends on your personal preference as far as the OS. Win7 is a fairly natural evolution of the XP/Vista line. Win8 gets rid of the start menu in favor of tiles on the desktop. I personally like Win7 for an actual computer--Win8 reminds me more of a tablet interface.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I have flisties who love Win8 and some who are rabidly opposed to it to the point of looking into Linux distros.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i was under the impression you could toggle an option and get back the start menu
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or not, but see http://www.extremetech.com/computing/141702-how-to-bring-the-start-menu-and-button-back-to-windows-8
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not sure why you would get a new OS only to hack it backwards :-P Stick with the old one
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, but it shouldn't require something like that to have the option, Redryn
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nah i was under the impression it was an option
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i googled and found out it wasn't, but a ton of stuff bringing it back
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: First rule of windows is skip a release
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I know, it's Microsoft, and they're busy trying to make everything simpler for the idiots
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn snickers with Vakieh about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Win9 is going to be sweet though
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've been doing 3.1 -> 98 -> XP -> 7
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I don't know about that, still looks pretty similar.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: and the rumor about only being able to install software from a Microsoft-controlled app store...if that's the case, I won't be using Windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows Blue != Win9
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: okay :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: this is gonna be fun 
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: 458501689 is my portal, I can type look 458501689 and I see A small dark portal lays here., but when I type put 458501689 bag it tells me: You don't see a 470577497 bag here.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: turn on echocommands suspect an alias is inerfering
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: whats the mud recieving from you?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: You entered:: put 458501689 470577497 portals
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: 470577497 is my portals bag...
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I am typing put 458501689  portals
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You have a dodgy substitution
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: where do I find it?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Look? Only person who added it would be you
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could be alias or plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I don't see it anywhere :(
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: test on gt
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i have win xp iso on my flash how do i run setup on a blank harddrive?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: reboot, go bios and set the boot order, set 1st to your flash
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There doesn't seem to be a way to insert a bunch of text at the top of a file using sed, hmm.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone know how I can do it? i// doesn't seem to accept addresses..
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I think it's sed '1i/bla'
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, actually '1ibla'
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'll try that, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I tried a /1/s//text/ hack :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yours works, thanks Cizra :)
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So slashes are not required for addresses all the time, huh.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So the latest version of iTunes doesn't show you how many items you've highlighted/chosen/whatever it's called for some reason (previous versions did). Is there a way to get iTunes 11.0.1.12 to do that or is the feature just gone for absolutely no good reason whatsoever?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple has no reason since it is basically the devil!
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: How do I go about reloading a plugins window to it's orginal spot?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: i'm not sure what I changed in mushclient but now I'm seeing things like {invmon}2,710858203,-1,13
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It might be a missing/malfunctioning plugin. I'm not sure which one, but if they annoy you you can turn them off for the time being with 'invmon'
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: thanks, been going through plugins but cant seem to find it
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay how would i split up "       4,999,959       749,992,050" into 2 divverent variables and cleaning away whitespaces
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: \s+([0-9,]+)\s+([0-9,]+) ... ish.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: With regex. But now you have 2 problems
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I wonder, can you discard character sets from a group, but still match? Hrm...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Would be interesting to try and match the , but discard it also - save the trouble of iterating over the group to remove the commas - assuming your str2int can't handle them, that is
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: that worked a treat
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't think that would make sense
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: How about str.Trim().Split(new char[] { ' ' }); ?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Each, just use a replace to get rid of them.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Then again, I don't even know what language we're working with here. :D
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The commas, that is.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: mushclient lua to be exact
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, talking neutral here, totally unrelated to but inspired by the original q
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: but anyway jhav solved my problem
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Thinking efficiency of the code itself - though tbh I have no freaking idea how regex works under the hood, so I might be shaving 0.1 off an operation where the regex takes 100, who knows
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Did I?  I'll take your word for it.  I make no guarentees that anything I say at 3:30 AM is at all accurate or useful.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It isn't anchored, but the regex looks solid to me aside from that
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im just makeing something simply to calculate how many mobs to be killed till hour double
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it should be anchored, otherwise it'll match any two numbers separated by any number of spaces
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Prefix the whole thing with '^Mob Deaths       :' and you will be fine
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im just grabbing numbers from gamestat 5
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ^Mob Deaths       \:\s+([0-9,]+)\s+([0-9,]+)$
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ^Mob\sDeaths\s+\:\s+([0-9,]+)\s+([0-9,]+)$
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't think : has special meaning?, might not like the extra \
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://viktor.juhe.ee/regex.pdf
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm, no, colon doesn't need escape
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not sure how it handles reduncant escapes, but prob better not to test it
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or at least, not test it in used code :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i put it onto and it auto regex it, then i put in the \s+([0-9,]+)\s+([0-9,]+) to capture the variables
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Seriously though, muds are the foremost expert repositories on regex that I have found in many years of study :-) Tis awesomesauce
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wouldn't auto anything. it seems it's fine with spaces being spaces and all, but i'd stick with pure regex for pattern matching. no surprises
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regex and ai research :P
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: well whatever it does it works
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, microtraders for AI
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Those guys are NUTS
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: and how did such a question set this all off...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This is tech... we like to tech here
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i know, but you know, bots
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, I know bots :-P Yet to see a particularly smart one though
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, good patterns might save your bot from a nuke
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You've been talking to my chatbot this entire time!
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jhav is still around, he's good ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I might hook up to cleverbot on April 1, see how many people catch on :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have eliza on fb chat when i'm afk
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wish i could have cleverbot there. or any learning bot that could learn my speech patterns
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Q: How do I get out of the lower planes? A: What if I told you Santa isn't real?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: telling me that would send you to the lower planes vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Q: Can I get a cr? A: Sure.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Q: I am at Kingsholm. A: Where is your home?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That was backwards, probably should have been V: and CB: ...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And last but best one: V: TP for sale, 3.1m. CB: The saying is I think therefore I am that is the cogito.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: wut.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is there a reason why MOBA = tonumber(GetVariable("Mobs_Killed")) would be getting me a nill value, and thinking that its a global variable when ina loacl do statement
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: local*
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: hello?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tonumber doesn't like , iirc
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And lua declares all variable global unless initially prefixed with the local keyword
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: it keeps comming up with nill value
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: nonumber has never given me this problem before
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because tonumber is returning nil
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: tonumber*
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This is after grepping [0-9,] right?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You need to strip the ,
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: is anyone able to help me get client working, have not played in years, trying to get back into game
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: if you haven't played in years couldn't you download the latest version and start anew?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and which client?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: one from aard home page, worked short bit yesterday, crashed, now says can't locate some file
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which file does it say it can't locate?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: let me try again, brb
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: god damn, regex crossword - http://www.coinheist.com/rubik/a_regular_crossword/grid.pdf
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: hmm. nope
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm going to give it a shot
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: In the words of a wise man: I'm getting too hold for this sh*t.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which matches shirt, short, shout, shoot, shot, ...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Assuming it searched only within the English language terms suitable for the channel.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it doesn't. matches 'st' 'sht', 'shht' etc
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: these aren't all real words, dagnir :P
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's gonna make it pretty tough :P
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Dagnir: true, it would have had to be sh.*t for mine to be correct.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regex doesn't care. it matches what it's told
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sh.+t would have been better for your purposes
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The difference is sht!
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have experience with powershell - i am completely stumped on something
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: what are you stumped on
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Just keep going, someone else will chime in...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: executing a script works using powershell -FILE \\servername\location.ps1
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: executing a script using powershell -FILE \\fqdn\location.ps1  throws a signiture hash error
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: exact same file - hash is verified / execution policy is remote signed
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but works with server name but not full fqdn
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: powershell 2.0
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: is anyone aware of an aardwolf client for the mac? i'm using mushclient under vmware now but it's a  bit of a pain to run windows every time
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: the options for the mac don't look great
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: i think i'll stick with mushclient for now
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: how do you set up a hotkey for the client
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Is sharptrack plugin just 1 add?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Used to be, so i'd assume it still is.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: hmm ok.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: 2 parts of it im not sure on
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: - Allow DLL's to be loaded: TICK
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: did that mean turn that check box off or keep it on?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it's just a plugin, take the whole Sharptracker205g.xml file and put it in the folder with the rest of them.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that should be ticked, Loshai, it means it needs to be on
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: ok so TICK means enabled?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, it means there's a tick or check in the box
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 1. Cut a hole in the box. 2. put a tick in that boxxxx.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith snickers with Daloran about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: You cannot set up a aliase that pushes the attrib and total into game
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: says unknown command
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: manual type though it sends
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: wtf?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: are you still trying to work wiht Sharptracker?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: World Trade Federation?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: just finishing learning it
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: you have to type manually  #sendtotal to sent to your group
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: all you need to do is install the plugin into mush
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yes, you do
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i was trying to set up an alias reportall, that sound send it auto 
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Doesnt work that way i see.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: not easily, no
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: still pretty neat.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: any suggestions for good plugins for mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: S&D
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: winklewinkle, mendaloth, bast
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: finger those 3 players, details of plugins in finger.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: darn
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: is there a way to upgrade version of mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Line   15
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Plugin requires MUSHclient version 4.76 or above (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: visit the mushclient website
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you can download versions there
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: didnt know if there was a way to within mush itself thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: why aren't you using the mushclient that was designed for aardwolf from the homepage?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone have any experience with chromebooks?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Does anyone know why ifstream >> char[] freaks at a Chinese character, and converts a space to a newline?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Oh, hmm, it converts any space to a newline...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: chinese is a unicode system, and your client probably doesn't support it well.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Or that.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: No, I'm not talking about MUDs, Hanslanda. I'm trying to parse a UTF-8 file.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: C++.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah, it seems to convert spaces even on ASCII-only lines to \n.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is there an easy way to check for an empty variable in c?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Define 'empty.'
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: think so, but it's so old and long ago I can't remember how.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: trying to have scanf only accept 2 character input. so i want to check and make sure there is no 3rd character
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilirith Tech: Is there anyone using MUSHclient, AND Windows 8? If so, do you have trouble pasting things into the command box?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: no problems
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: windows 8 sucks, but thats not one of its problems
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilirith Tech: OK, well I have had reports that using Windows 8, it is impossible to paste things into the command window, however this is not a problem for you, correct?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto nods.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilirith Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: traceroute 216.81.59.173 - do it!
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Some ISP got blackholed?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Today I discovered that notepad++ has a color theme called "hello kitty" :P
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tequila & Zhalt convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: you should let Fanto know
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: do you have to copy each repop area's annoucement for the repoper to work?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depends on what 'repoper' is, there is GMCP info after repop
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: howcome the mapper cexit delete command is disabled?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: or is that someting i did?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: any ideas why my health/mana/... bars dont load if i close aardmush without quitting mud by quit command and then reconnecting?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I always right click the room and delete change exit
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: isn't it mapper delete cexits?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: other way around
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: same for stats window
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: having same issues to delete cexits
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: im strugling to make a cexit through longer aliases like land of legends, could somebody please help me with this? or ddo i have it wrong?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: are you doubling the semi-colons?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: if i've set it up he go funcion just says There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms:
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: what am i doing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You don't have the cexit, obviously
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: maze in the middle?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Now, as per my first question. Are you doubling the semi-colons.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: i have it but at the goto number in s%d doesnt say anything
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: cexits works fine through portals but not as soon as i start putting ;
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: portals wich means area portals
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: need to use ;;
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: always do
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: anyone here who could help me with cexits with s&d?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Stands to reason since you were already getting help here with them.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: still not getting the answers im looking for
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know how you go about sorting out a printer that prints colors darker than true?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: does the printer have an ink-saturation setting?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't think so, the print quality is fine (it' a color laser) but the colors don't match the hues on the original
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a color laser printer will never have significantly good color accuracy
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in this case, however, define "true"
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: most high end printers(like xerox) have their own computer attached just to match color.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lodd Tech: whenever I use the bigmap commandputty crashes.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lodd Tech: just thought I would report that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfe Tech: What would be the exact syntax in MUSH to toggle a trigger with an alias? Anyone know? I can see it's something to do with enabletrigger
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: if the gmcp mapper fails an integrity check (god knows why it did) where do I get a new mapper plugin then?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: or do I need to delete the whole mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: try to remove the plugin then add it again
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try and replace the aardwolf.db with a backup
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: don't have a backup :(
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Find the name of your default mcl file (usually 'aardwolf.mcl') and delete the corresponding .db file. If you have a lot invested in the map you can grab a backup from the backups folder and rename it to what the old one was called.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: that I know of?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Once deleted, restart mushclient and a new, valid db will be created for you
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: any ubuntu/wine wiz's on?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: no whiz, but it's not unfamiliar
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: ok, nothing was working, so deleted the mushclient folder entirely.......downloaded a new aardmush......and on first load, the db failed....any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: antivirus
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either you have problem with antivirus or lack of it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though you could also have problem with hardware
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH you should have problems also with other apps
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nice, emacs has a text editor now
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: AardMush lost my ascii map miniwin, can't remember how to restore it.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first I'd try moving miniwindows around or right-click send to back to see if  it's just behind another window
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then I'd go to file -> plugins, select aardwolf_ascii_mapper and click reinstall
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if neither of those bring it back, type "resetaard"
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks. I will look at the plugin situation.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I had already run the reset. Reinstalling the plugin worked. Thanks for your input, as always.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Can anyone recommend a reliable/not expensive web hosting company? For a handful of personal/business sites, pretty basic...do need to run Wordpress though
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: does anyone know the commandline command to make bast's updater plugin hide itself?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there any way to change the way libnotify works on Ubuntu 12.04, or notify-send?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Short of compiling my own patched version.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is anyone tech savvy here using windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need the location of the hidden virtual store
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: why do I keep getting this error when I get eq out of bags?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reload the equipment plugin to clear it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because it had a previous error
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should report the error it had
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: I have it copied, where do I put it?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be one of bast's plugins, but he has a couple which perform that task
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd report it to bast
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: board personal
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: any techy people around 
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: depends
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Depends on the issue.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: depends on your question
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: anyone familiar with s/d winkle
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: usually better to just ask the question
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: getting this command when adding plugin, as follows
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: scriping error, called by ; immediate execution
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: scripting error
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: and i get this message on the game screen, as follows
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Line  358
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Error parsing script (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sounds like there was an error parsing the script and it can't load
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: man you got skills fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: ;P
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol i agree with fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i just dont know what that means
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: google ?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which word don't you understand? I'll look it up for you
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: there's probably a misplaced semicolon or something, either on line 358 or before that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: is this a fresh copy of mushclient? fresh copy of s&d? have you loaded other plugins along with winklewinkles?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: can't figure out more than that without a stack traceback
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: misplaced semicolon in lua would be pretty dumb, because lua doesn't require semicolons
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: I updated my mush to the latest, it accepted a few other like sharptracker
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at The Jerk Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: or something, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I don't code lua
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i cant get semicolon to work at all actually
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: like to smile i ahve to do this ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish smirks.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: looks like a semicolon to me
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: should have to double-semicolon to do that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol :P
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ;; -> ;
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so how do i fix that or can i
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: semicolon is Mush's default command separator
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient by default uses ; as a command separator. You're probably safer not changing this behavior.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: learn to live with that.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it can be changed
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it can, but then you might have to edit lots of scripts that you want to install
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i just changed command stacking from : to 
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: AH I can do it now
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: from what to what?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: from the other one lol
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto smirks.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Loshai: let me know if anything fails from doing that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: cant do the other one now
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Loshai: I assume you are using the aardwolf mushclient package and not just the download from mushclient.com?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: world properties, input, commands, command stacking 
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes yes. we know where it is. it's just not 100% safe to change it if you want scripts written by other people to work
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because someone might be using it in an unsafe way without knowing
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (of course a good user like yourself would report any related bugs to the author)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: looks like sharptrack wont work 
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: going back
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: not particularly surprised by that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should let bast know
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: sharptracker isn't Bast, is it?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: isn't it? oh
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well whoever wrote it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: or has he taken over maintaining it?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so i suppose we arent at a resolution to the original problem
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, I haven't taken it over, although my StatDB and StatMonitor plugins do the same things as SharpTracker
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: try a reinstall
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: done that twice.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: I moved it from desktop into plugin, then opened mush and added from plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: redownload it, you probably have a corrupt copy
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so ive done it both ways
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: done that twice too.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: or replaced file twice
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: dont use it :P
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you redownload it, or just replace it with the copy already downloaded?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: bast pst
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm having trouble referencing an alias inside of an alias using mush
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: what have you got the alias sending to
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: send to execute or send to script and call Execute
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: send to execute did the trick, thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: also, what's the mush command to do a local echo?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: depends on what language you're using
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: last option in "Display" menu
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is the lua print command. also MUSHclient has standard Tell, Note, ColourTell, and ColourNote
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for those you'll need to send to script
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i guess i don't know what language i'm using, i'm just wanting to add on something to the end of the aliases I use telling me what exits/portals/whatever i'm using to get where i'm going
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that way if something changes, i know where it might be broke
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: aardwolf mushclient uses lua by default
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: understood, so to use the print command, is it just print (stuff) ?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just use echo if you want to echo something...
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: echo comes with lag
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: doesn't it?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well then, that sounds like a pretty easy way to use it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it comes with putting the output where you'd expect it, rather than before everything
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: echo will come with a roundtrip to the server
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: bast you still around
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is irrelevant as the server uses set intervals which are MUCH greater than that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: gui loaded correctly, but the other 2 didnt
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think it's saner to use a print for this
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, but if i want to echo "Clan Portal -> Clan Exit (Place) -> Place
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: gui? other two? I only heard you were running sharptracker, what else are you talking about?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and i want that to show up after i've arrived
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, you want it to show up after you arrive?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you really shouldn't be using those types of aliases at all...and print cannot do it after you've arrived
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (well, can't do it after you've arrived without some trickery)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seems like i'd have to toss in a delay of some kind
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let the mapper do its job
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Scars: what are you actually trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i am all to aware that using the mapper would be a better approach
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: months back when cmud died on me, i was using aliases to take me to areas, using portals, clan exits, whatever... i always wished i had it set up to tell me what exactly i had told it to do
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm setting up aliases on mush to do the same, and while i'm at it, i was going to have it remind me of the plan i had the alias take
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "mapper where <roomID>" will tell you the steps the mapper will take to get there
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the mapper already handles all that debugging that you're interested in
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but the mapper does not have my true current exploration
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nor does your aliases
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that's not relevant in the least
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by the time you've put in an alias, you'd also have told the mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: when i looked into this before, it SEEMED like it would be more work
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it might be, but not that much more
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and possibly less if you get comfortable with it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: suppose that's fair
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, making a script wait until you arrive somewhere *can* be done, but it requires a bit of trickery
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the mapper's "work" has more-lasting benefits...an area moves, you just walk by the exit to it once
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in this case Abelinc is actually correct, using echo would give you the intended result
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: alright... *sigh* here we go
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: echo at the end after the portal commands are sent to the mud, and the mud will do them and then echo afterward
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the part of the mapper that i felt was the most work was getting the portals to be used
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: because one of the nice things about the aliases i had was that i could just program in the level check for when that would be an issue
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper portals have level checks
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper knows about level checks, and automatically knows your tier as well
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hosch has a good guide on how to set up the trickier elements of portal behavior
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, here we go then, i have about 20 minutes to burn on this
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hosch's guide is a good walkthrough of simple-to-complex, where you start with a "just do this" and then think about more things until he ends with a pretty good abstract alias
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's linked from fiendish's page on the mapper on fiendish's site
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: doesn't this essentially just turn all of my aliases into mapper goto roomid?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it could if you want
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, making portals doesn't...but you should make your aliases into that, yes
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm interested in an elaboration on the "no"
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make your umari alias mapper goto 36645
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, that's what i meant
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i will admit that the ability to just say "goto suchandsuch" and the mapper taking the most direct route is pretty neat.. when maybe running from area to area is faster than looping back through, say, hotel
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but make your "use hotel share" alias use get share bag, wear share, enter, re-wear whatever it took off (a variable is best), put share bag...and then do mapper portal <thatalias> when standing in the hotel room
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then your mapper goto 28336 will use the share already
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: its best to use item id's tho aswell
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'll start simple with crec :P
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still just use runto to get most places.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do i see the room id?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's cuz you never did xrunto }:>
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for the current room or for another room?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper thisroom, or hover
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or mapper find, for something not visible
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: not all room id's are numbers?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my clan recall is not?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although nomap rooms list -1
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Clan rooms have weird IDs listed by mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's because nomap rooms don't get IDs and I have to fake them
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, most clans set their internal rooms to nomap/-1 so raiders can't just walk through
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, which makes sense after you say it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make portal aliases that use clantrans and then a run to your clan exit room's directions
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: bast where do i go to download your most updated package
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast...
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nifty, just got the mapper portal thing to work with sendhia
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so i understand that bit
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you have those sendhia custom exits in, you'll be pimping there :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: oh yeah
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i've never had an alias to take me anywhere but the front of an area out of laziness and my inability to remember wtf i would even set that too
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my tendency to go MIA for brief periods gives me amnesia on that level of detail
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, but questor tells you the roomname to mapper find <roomname>, then mapper goto <thatroomname> :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no memory necessary
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: fair enough, but that sort of thing takes no special alias
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the only special alias i need to make, in general, is to take me to the area
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well great, now that i actually understand this, i'll be fine
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my complete laziness in the fact that i wear the amulet 100% of the time i'm not going somewhere makes this fairly simple to accomplish
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: <--- doesn't use Tiger of Kai or whatever at SH
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but just for completeness, make your generic portal alias use wear @main_portal or something like that anyway...you may want to change that some day
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: maybe, but unlikely 
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: does anyone know where i can get a container sorter script?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: does anyone know where i can get a container sorter script for mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vesrai... Theres a command "invsort" is it possible that will do what you're looking for?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: finger madcatz lol jk
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two places...bast or madcatz
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: where can i get a plugin to put my inv into a minwin?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: anyone else use Opo's sharptracking version 227?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i need to know the command to tell it to send the reports to a specific channel
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblyx Tech: Hi. Is there any setting in MUSH client that can enable it to save at regular intervals.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: what do you mean, the client or the character
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblyx Tech: I am new to MUDs. For last few days I have played my new character and learnt a lot about alias and putting/getting things from bags etc. Like for potions/portals etc. Few hours ago our power went out and all my work is lost. I did not know I must save it down all the time. Everything was made MUSH side.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9405
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Scroll down to reply #6
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: It's a plugin that saves every X minutes.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblyx Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm, how is it that I have $i</html> in the last line of my sed script but it inserts "</html>" in the second last line...
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: if you buy a 2.1 speaker will it work with a 7.1 system?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do i delete a portal entry for the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mapper delete portal whatever
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: whatever = the portal alias
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can also delete by index number with #
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daesilme: you can link to specific replies on the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: anyone had problems with canon pixma 3000 and win 7?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: or actually.. ever got it working?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: works nicely with mac so its not issue
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that a printer?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, a camera for trendies only then
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is it just a driver issue then?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I never connect cameras to computers, always just grab the card from the camera and mount it directly...don't need any crappy camera software that way
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: don't most cameras just mount as a drive when you plug them in anyway?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The drivers need to be set up properly for that.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, they mount specially
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not just a drive, but they give you access to the drive
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which is not a problem in most cases, but when there *is* a problem, it is quite annoying.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Every camera I've ever owned just mounted as a drive, no software, but I've only ever bought nikons.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even nikons don't mount as just a drive
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and they do require software, the OS just comes with basic version of it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have never directly connected a camera to a computer
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: So you're telling me the camera that is plugged into my computer right now, without any drivers installed, isn't being detected as "Removable Disk: R"
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have always connected the SD card or whatever
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm telling you that it's not "without any drivers installed"
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that it's also connected as a camera, which is different
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There should be some sort of rudimentary drivers available on most modern OSes.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Ah, so you're a pedant, Ok. "Without any drivers installed that do not come with the operating system".
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you plugged it in, the OS asked what you wanted to do with the camera...that's a question which is not asked when you connect a drive
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Yes it is, it does it when I plug in a USB drive or an SD card. The OS tries to guess what's on the disk and what you want to do with it.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: I wasn't aware you were against drivers that come with the operating system as well. It must be really hard for you to use a computer.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: there are times when techie people get into arguments that feel incredibly petty
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this is one of those times
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't ask what to do with the camera...that's not the same thing
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Ah, that felt good. "ignore magna"
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: And yes, pedantic tech arguments are stupid.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: computers think they're smart, and they treat things differently, transforming the raw data according to what they think you want the data for
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, I guess the camera also has to be able to say 'oh, and I can function as a drive too.'
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and needing to ignore to "feel good" is much smarter
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sort of feels like an eposide of big bang theory where sheldon argues with sheldon
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that's an additional enumeration
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is the secret windows equivalent of kill -9?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sysinternals tools
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can do the ctrl-alt-del task manager, but that's not fully-god-mode without the sysinternals stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, task manager won't kill it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: taskkill from command prompt?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: systinternals won't kill it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: taskkill is lying
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: proccess -k ?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: process*
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: que?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm just using google here
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: came across this
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows/kill-processes-from-the-windows-command-line/
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: msconfig, make sure it won't be respawned, reboot...browse the sysinternal section of MS's site when you get around to it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone can reboot
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't want to have to, hence the question
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then browse the sysinternals stuff before rebooting...it's stuff put out by MS's internal engineering team (well, one guy mostly)...some of it will require rebooting to get embedded into the task manager though
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks like i have no choice, damn Steam and their buggy releases
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: finally got the damned thing working
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: where can I download the bbssh client?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bbssh.org
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never heard of google?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google will happily sell it to you
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and sell the fact that you were interested in it to 3rd parties
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you're fortunate, it might give you a link to where you can download it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: god forbid
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're fortunate to be in the 100% population, it'll give you the link, correct
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it'll happily sell the fact that someone was interested in it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is a good piece of information to be available to people
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts ruffles your hair playfully. 
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bbsh actually seems like it's surprisingly difficult to find through google
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless you want some high school or sport horsing association
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: funny it's the first 5 links for me
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: must just be being shit, Fiendish, -apparently-
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe because of the typo?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google results are different for different people, you realise
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh bbssh
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my bad
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to a degree, tigernuts
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah that makes a big difference
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: be like tigernuts - use bing
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bbssh is quite specific, but at a more generic level
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, bing
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: googling bbssh will be quite similar for everyone in an industrialized country
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bbssh gives quite different results than bbsh
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it should be
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i use startpage, which uses google as it's underlying engine
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: none of this really explains why biker didn't use google
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lmgtfy was created as a response to stuff like that
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me? I knew the url so why would i have used it?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: biker is a bot
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bots already know these things
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: apologies, i meant blooddog
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perhaps his bot is a cheap korean knockoff
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You instruct The Jerk Fiendish in the fine art of *beep* writing a legal *beep* script.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing cheap about korean knockoffs
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perhaps his bot is an expensive korean knockoff
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NORTH KOREA!!!
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it was north korean, it would be a piece of paper with "bot" written at the top of it, but otherwise devoid of content
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: north korean only has 1 computer, and that's reserved for Kim Jong Un to bash his bishop over
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check this out - http://www.reddit.com/r/Pyongyang/
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no joke, the real thing
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't use reddit
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks for letting us know
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: ok, got bbssh how do I get it on aardwolf now?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: check out help connect?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: oki, I downloaded bbsh on my blackberry and I did checkout help connect but its still not connecting.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: bbssh*
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: q. why?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why bbssh needed for mudding?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: I'm from mxit:(
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ditch it and get a lappie
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or if desperate, a tablet
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd like to see a code of conduct for news websites where it is a no-no to a. launch videos onload, and b. open external links on clicking the body tag or background
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: code of conduct for websites period, really
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: you mean something like google webmaster guidelines?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: an ISO standard maybe, w3c as a secondary option
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: it'd be nice, but i think removing bad sites from search result is at least a start
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's talking about sites which don't fit his personal style preferences, not bad sites...
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not a search issue, it's a website author issue
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because you don't use search, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i find it annoying, very annoying, when videos play right after loading
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: espn is my primary agitator
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as internet news becomes the outlet for the sheep media, they might start paying more attention to providing a non-obnoxious product
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't use noscript?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: even if i want to watch the highlights, or brief interview, or whatever... don't just start that right away
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is noscript an addon for chrome?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: they have an addon like it for chrome
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i use adblock and ghostery, i have never heard of noscript
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, man, noscript is the thing
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: it's pretty nice, it can stop all scripts from showing up except the ones you allow
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably available for chrome since it's so popular. i use it on fx
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't see it anywhere
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: google "noscript for chrome" gave me noscripts
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: noscript is a firefox addon, i think there's one called 'notscripts'
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i recommend using search engines, no matter what nuts says
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ah, your google skills are better than mine this time
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: search engines aren't an issue
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i searched noscript in googles webstore and didn't find it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just be aware of what they do and how they work
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wasn't sure where to go from there at first
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, used some l33t keywords
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they do search lookups...and they work by taking input and giving you output
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: A NotScripts password is required to be set for the initial use on a computer or if NotScripts was updated. The password is used to protect your privacy by preventing web sites from viewing the NotScripts whitelist caches. Due to technical limitations, you are required to open a file to set the password.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: losing interest in a hurry...
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts rolls his eyes at you. 
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that sounds like work
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: idk scars, the one on firefox isn't like that
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prefer firefox to chrome, anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: abe, you got it all wrong. they're selling everything that nuts is searching to some bad guys and they try to sneak into his house and kill him when he sleeps. because they really care about the stuff nuts searches
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well sure, that's cuz chrome exists merely to get the googleverse into your computer
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they're always watching him, because they care so much
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i like to deny google the funds
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dagnir's just a shit
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, i bet you're a real blow to their wallet
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's the sole reason that Apple is a richer company than google and microsoft
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're helped more by dodgy tax practices than their access to my wallet
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: GoogleNet's become self-aware, we're doomed now.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apple is rich because of abusing slave labour in China to sell trendy pointless electronic tat to thick americans
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and your computer isn't made in foxconn? :P
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apple has no chinese labor
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: exactly. you're clueless
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, it probably is
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what Tigernuts really is saying is that a US product is helping to prop up foreign economies. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would be nice if they made it in the US
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this notscripts blows
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: that's why you need to switch to firefox and slap on adblock and noscript =p
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not surprised. most classic fx plugins on chrome suck
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: adblock is fine, a friend recently suggest ghostery
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i haven't noticed anything helpful come from ghostery
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: main reason why i'm still on fx. adblock and noscript blow and i can't get vertical tabs
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, adblock blows because unlike fx version it loads the ads and then hides them. fx version gets rid of them from the scratch
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: eh, i'm a 2-tab browser tops... and i liked that when chrome first came out that the URL bar was also a google search
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my computer mainboard is manufactuered by Pegatron, so stfu
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm a 40-tab browser type :P
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i haven't noticed a difference personally
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you work too much, Dagnir.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's made in china...why would that make us stfu?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not made by Foxconn
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which was the charge
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: ghostery lets you block scripts / tracking you select, right, scars?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: foxconn makes components, not the mobo
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think it's just a cookies blocker, not a scripts blocker
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if there was a local alternative, i'd but that
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and assembly, abe
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you'd end up having to pay WAY more for the same product, and that would make you feel good?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my laptop is foxconn, but hey, my phone is made in finland
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: china has some labor law/protection issues, that's for certain... but paying more just to pay more is sort of a strange approach
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like he pays any real sums for anything...he'd TALK about buying a local product...
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: paying 4 tps to someone who can help make or make a script to change weapons (set them, get from bags, wear and put again in bags)
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he wouldn't actually DO it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: self failing prophecy, there isn't, so i don't need to, but were there, i would
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mohan: bast has one
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for dual too?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I buy the best item for the best price I can find (which is by definition the MOST exploitative). Not overly fussed, tbh.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't let me ever hear you bitching about unemployment figures ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sort of a strange thing though... because of the cost of living in china USED to be so low, the wages they were paid were coveted and people wanted those jobs
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh: it's the American way...capitalism at its finest :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people still want those jobs...that's why they work there
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's that or starve, abe
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but the wage increase did not even sort of keep up with the cost of living increases, so now it's compared to slave labor
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Tigern, what you want is polarised employment - at the end of the day, a job is had.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: despite people claiming it's "slave" labor, it's fully free market at-will labor
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bitching about unemployment figures is going to increase, as technology replaces jobs.  Did you know that there's a bank-teller shortage going on?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not entirely happy with that, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably not a topic for here though
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: meh, this is tech related :P
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I study and work IT - I will not have to deal with employment opportunity shortages in the forseeable future :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: needs a politech channel
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's debate
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: anyone... ANYONE... who thinks their position is immune from labor gluts is delusional
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: depends where you are
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you know what happens when you top a "top jobs" list enough times?  people show up in droves.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so enjoy the gravy train while you can
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Scars, have you seen the employment data? Here in Au we are so deep in skills shortage, have been for 30 years
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For IT, that is
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And the droves showing up can't code for jack
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we have skills shortage in the UK because they won't pay top $
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because your internet connection sucks and everything outdoors is venomous, i guess
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: desperately short of engineers, too, apparently
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: as the world develops, particularly india and russia, i think we'll see more IT employees coming from there
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're only seeing indians phoning up telling you there's something wrong with a computer you don't own
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lots of it in russia. mainly bulletproof isp's and botnets :P
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: already seeing that tons in the US...lots of russian programming immigrants
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It kinda sucks from a socially progressive point of view, but when I walk into interviews as an IT-educated 'not an Indian person' I could sit there and not talk and probably still make it through the interviews.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: only if they lose their accents to a respectable level.  Companies are already gunshy over the lost business from the customer-service outsourcing.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it just happens here first, it'll work its way to you other countries soon enough
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, their skillsets (both in programming and communication) aren't quite to our standards
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we get a lot of immigrants applying for IT jobs and blatantly lying about their skills
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: especially from India
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Buried Dreadlocker snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: not yet, sure, but my field is seeing waves of asian applicants... eventually employers get wore down by HR asking why an applicant wasn't hired
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: We get that too here in AUS.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: we can't cite communication issues with HR pulling the race card
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Worst is when theres Indians with fake medicine degrees..
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: eh, the UK is also incredibly nationalist right now
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bollocks are they
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: rightly or wrongly so
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dread, we don't accept Indian degrees here anymore, and you have to call and verify the Association records before hiring
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: UK is still open wider than a ho's legs
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wasn't talking about policymakers or current laws
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: was talking about the sentiment
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, it's not nationalist
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: still overwhelmingly fractionally left of centre
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: perhaps, but the anectodal evidence i have suggests otherwise
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're confusing the fact that we hate the french
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you're not all that fond of Inians or Pakistanis either :)
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Indians*
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not fussed, tbh
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'll always get friction in a densely populated country where living standards are tumbling
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: of course... and the finger pointing of people moving in is always easiest
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: NYC saw it happen multiple times
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing else to blame, the birth rate was <2
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: could blame your "everyone should be a winner" polices?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's an argument for a different day
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: isnt this the Tech channel?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: pound sand, buddy
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: awww, you ruined it!
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yoooohoooo
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: techie question of the day - does anyone have experience with ios mud clients?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there aren't any good ones afaik
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GreenAcid falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffhead rapidly nods twice at The Jerk Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: It's true
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto smirks at GreenAcid's saying.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sweet...  there are 4 on the app store...  one free and two paid....
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: it is
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Pocket Mud Pro is what I use.  it's ok, but definitely not great
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: none have a monospace font, last I checked
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that like pocket pool pro?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: have you used 'mud client'?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: TMC isnt any good
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i downloaded pocket pool... wasn't what i thought it'd be.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have to pay for that one, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: all it did was vibrate constantly.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: that has some uses
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I expect to pay for any "pro" service.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: im using the free one, but was wondering if ne of the paid ones would be worth getting
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, but if you have to pay for it then it can't really be all that good.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you're saying you prefer amateur work
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: never been to amsterdam, have ya?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: the paid version is better than the free one, I think. I used the free one for a while, but there were some issues with connectivity
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: the paid version lets you answer texts/check maps/other things without disconnecting
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope, never been to Amsterdam.  Don't smoke, you see.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: It's much better on an ipad, though.  The screen is easier to read, and yes, I believe it is monospaced font.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: how do i make a duplicate of a plugin? for instance, channel captures?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Creating_multiple_log_windows
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: thanks, i appreciate it
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: why is it that when i disable statmon, save, close, and reload it enables itself again?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: why aint my bbssh not connecting? Host: aardmud.org and port: 4000
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: can someone using bbssh please help me?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone know where i can find a pup tracker that broadcasts locally but can be captured by the comm log capture windows?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: modify your pup tracker to echo INFO: whateveryourpupinfois
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone have a puptracker plugin on a website?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: anyone online that uses bbssh that can help me?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Is there a way to use <!--#include virtual=""--> directives in a php file?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: is it possible to edit what shows up in the communication log?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Don't think so, but why would you want to edit the log? :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: or how about this, is it possible to make output port to a window??
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Clarify what you're trying to do.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: heh. if I type quest info I want a window with the out put
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: or cp inf
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bast already has plugins for that
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: thats the answer i was looking for thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: anyone on using bbssh? I really need help.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol. you were asking the same thing looong time ago
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how about you just ask the damn question and see if anyone answers. i for one don't like "reporting in"
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: I know lol, I can't seem to connect onn it I did put in port: 4010 and host:aardmud.org it still aint connecting...
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: common mxit problem afaik. probably blocked by isp
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: connection type telnet, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can also try 23 and 4000
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or maybe use ip 66.228.127.34 in case they're messing with the dns
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: telnet doesn't want to work
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: nvm got it!!!
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: anyone able to help me troubleshoot why I'm getting an unknown filesystem type 'vfat' when trying to mount a USB drive?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: What file system was it originally?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: not too sure to be honest, I think Fat32
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Is there data on the drive that you need?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: very much so
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Download a program called R-studio and do a full/detailed scan on the entire device
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Once it finishes scanning you can view the MFT and recover all the data you want off of it.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: It will probably display older data too that you may have deleted or post-format so keep that in mind.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: looks like it's reformatted, if it should be fat32
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: If thats the case Dagnir, then R-studio will be your best friend.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i use recover my files
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: i usually use testdisk
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I use R-studio professional at work.. I highly recommend it.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, he said it's an usb drive
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: r-studio is awesome. tho i haven't used it in ages.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: wil try it then we'll see
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: R-studio works with flash devices.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: Anyone here know their way around Open Office Base?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I have a * trigger. Do they block other triggers from catching the same line?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Because the one I'm using seems to.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes but there is an option to not "block"
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: if you dont have keep evaluating checked than yes, assuming this is in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh, I'll check that, Zetkax, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm. I checked 'keep evaluating' and now it works fine. What does that do exactly?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: when mush matches a trigger it usually stops checking - keep evaluating says if you match keep trying to match more
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ah. Thanks Nocilis and Zetkax :)
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Anyone know why i'd get this error message from a program that automatically downloads and installs(Or updates if it's installed already) software onto your computer: "An exception occurred during a WebClient request"
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://www.google.com/search?q=An+exception+occurred+during+a+WebClient+request
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not very useful, actually
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't agree
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i read it like he has a problem with an updater, not trying to write one. maybe i'm wrong
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he asked why it happens
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: three of the four top links have answers to possible reasons why it can happen
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he won't be able to fix the problem, but that's a different question entirely
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, maybe he is trying to write something himself, but a person who can write code can probably use google as well
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but technically you answered his question either way :P
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'd be surprised how many people don't seem to know how to use google
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in any case, "why this happens" is not the same question as "how do I fix it"
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not, but i like pretending i live in a better world
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a gentler world
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i should start using bing as a verb just to mess with people
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I imagine that microsoft might get just as upset as google does when people use google as a veb.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: verbv
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: verb
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: google gets upset over that?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's their own fault "bing"ing something sounds gay
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Stupid thing is Google literally means look. Googling for something predates the search engine.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: yes, they have to.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it doesn't, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vakieh: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes, it does
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir pats Vakieh on his head.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vakieh: you're thinking of ogling
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: wow
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: goggle maybe
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ever heard of googly eyes?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: "I'm having trouble with this essay on my alpaca" Just go bing bro. "I don't wanna fuck it, I wanna write a paper on it..."
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like the way you think :P
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: US trademark law requires companies to aggresively defend trademarks from genericization or they lose their trademarks.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: I'm waiting on the irrevocable proof that google pre-dates the search engine
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google comes from the word googol
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the word "google" is the number one with a million zeros.  it doesnt mean "look".
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: too late for Google then.  Google's officially a verb in the english language now.  Doesn't get any more generic than that.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: because I'm sure you're thinking of Ogle...
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not, cera. the word's googol
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but that's where google got it's name from
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: google is a made-up bastardization that's made someone filthy stinkin' rich.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah.. ok then google changed the spelling.. but they are refering to that word.  it implys how many potenital matches it can find
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm still looking for vakieh's etymology
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm not saying that's where Google.com got the name from, it isn't - but my grandfather used that word before Google existed
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Vakieh's learned well, I see.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: HAAHAHAH
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: whoa
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: I tend to believe old people, they're in no way incompetent and the majority of them aren't even senile!
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: right 60% of the time, every time?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can you use it in a sentence, vakieh. something your grandpa would say
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: sure your grandpa didn't have some loose dentures while oogling some youngins?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I've heard googly used before, but none of the old people I've ever known used the word google as a verb.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: they never got all googily eyed?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The most common one was 'I spy with my googling eyes' and 'I don't know, have a google' when asked if he knew where something was
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: afk work
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, it's entirely possible it was a nonsense word, localism, or child word
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I think a googly is a cricket term
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: cricket slang afaik
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: for a wonky bowled ball
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they bowl in cricket?  I thought they threw dirtballs and the other guy took a swing at it?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, a bowl is something you can eat from
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or get a hair cut in.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or the haircut that Moe gets
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: No, its a small amount of marijuana loaded in a pipe
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that's no good
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Did someone say Marajuana? D:
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you should have a large amount of marijuana loaded in a pipe
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: Erryday :3
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm going to bing bowl to make sure
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: My pipe is tiny... And a broke my bong Saturday :X
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so, Abradix, what you're saying is that your on the summit of broke-bong maudlin?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're*
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: get a volcano
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: pretty sure i am going to put it on my wedding registry
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: How would I check if argument is empty in mushclient alias's
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define argument
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: When I try to use \n in a lua string literal, it gives me an error. What should I do instead? (MUSHclient)
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't do that
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try doing two separate print/echo/note/etcs to do multi-line
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm trying to get a multiline string
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Create*
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, what I just described would do that
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: print/echo/note creates strings to use?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's being SetVariable()'ed
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where are you trying to "put" it...
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You could probably use [[ ]]
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you might also try escaping the \
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not sure if that will work
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: give me a moment
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... Escaping the \ worked. Thanks Fiendish :)
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where are you putting this?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have a number of plugins that use \n in strings
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Send part of trigger
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah it's weird. I try the commandline scripting and it works fine.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ah. that's your problem. You're trying to do this in a mushclient parsed section instead of in a script engine section
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh ok. Got it.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless I misunderstand
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: world trigger or plugin trigger?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: World trigger.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not actually sure what the parse rules are for that
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I know that, for example, you can't use < or > in the upper xml block of a plugin file because those get parsed out before getting sent to the script engine
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you have to use &lt
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for example
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume this is the same sort of thing
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ah, so mush is parsing the raw \n and thinking there's a double quote on one line and right after that the line ends
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess so
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: plugin script blocks are cleaner because they just get dumped to the script engine raw
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat nods.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (that is everything between <script> </script>)
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: anyone know how to fix the "Unable to create save state file" problem?  Seems to be caused by standard miniwin plugins...
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anyone using an ipad?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GreenAcid falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Getsuko: put the mushclient folder somewhere you have write access (not in Program Files)
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: anyone have this channel on?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: ask your question
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: go easy on me, but this much client thing seems a bit like reinventing the wheel...
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: i just want to make a simple alias, and i cant get it done...
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: ask the question already
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: how do i make a mush verson of zmud/tintin's #alias xx {get %1 bag
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: how do i make a mush verson of zmud/tintin's #alias xx {get %1 bag:
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #alias {gb *} {get %1 bag}
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: lol NOW the seperaton works
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: <- dumb as a rock. back to zmud i go *bleeeeeh*
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: whats the mud command to set the screen length to 24?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: vakieh?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ok why is zmud sending what i type to my capture window
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: using zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: on
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taralujan Tech: i keep getting a popup that says unable to save plugin state or something like that .  any clues ?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: read/write permissions problem maybe
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taralujan Tech: ill try moving the directoy from documents to ddownload and see 
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: anyone knwo if it's possible to capture echos in communication log in mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Download aard mush.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I don't have echos captured there though, just general channels
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Oh, I see what you're asking.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: either 'echo INFO: <blah>' or use the ... storeFromOutside? method.  Too lazy to look up the exact name.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That won't work, Jhav
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Channel logs come from gmcp
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: in the aard mush
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It does work.  The comm log looks for several things that don't come with gmcp - info being one of them.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Interesting..
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: should try that :)
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: anyone knows why whenever i type help <something> if the help page has more than 1 page, it drops all the pages at once, without the " per page" thingie?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pagesize
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Anyone familier with the TI-80's calculators
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: depends what you mean by familier
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I used to use one to cheat at tests, but other than that, not really.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: cant remember how to lighten the screen, put new batteries in and the screen is dimmed down cant see the numbers
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: or maybe that was an 83..
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: this one is a 85
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: push 2nd then up and down arrows
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: do that multiple times
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i did, isnt doing anything.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: What's the model number
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: TI-85
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i dont think its the numbers thats the issue, the whole screen is dark blue 
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: did you do it more than once? should be 2nd and down
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so.. i cant see the numbers, i think 2nd up down is for the numbers
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: http://www.ehow.com/how_8370482_lighten-texas-instruments-ti85-calculator.html
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Yeah, should be 2nd and ^ or v
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Depending on dimming or brightening
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: will someone please take over my tech support duties to my mother !!??? uhg
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we all will...just teach her how to connect to aard
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McLowery Tech: Just curious, do you look like this kid http://www.quickmeme.com/Family-Tech-Support-Guy/popular/1/ 0.o
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I better make log in one big no option button in the center of the screen
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: McLowery yep that's about right. 12 mile trip to push "connect to wifi"
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McLowery Tech: lol I love those memes 
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: love my family. only get called when something is really broken
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i make everyone else pay. except when they sleep with me
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: does anyone using ww spellup know if there is a way to temporarily disable just hide/invis it is a pain after strangle, yet I don't want to disable all of them.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: noauto <spell number>
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that'll work, but now the pressure is on me to remember to turn them back on later :p I want easy and effortless i guess.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darred Tech: stupid mush question time
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darred Tech: say i want to make a simple trigger (quest time reminder)... how do?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: you can make a sound trig off the You can now Quest again echo
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betrayal Tech: windows question..if i were to task someone to write a windows application..what would be an easy but powerful language
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betrayal Tech: windows application= a window with some options and io and writing to a sql table
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: no clue but first class of beg prog got me learning visual basic
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betrayal Tech: .net was my first thought
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: okay, im dumb, i downloaded search/destroy, the help files are there, all thats fine, but i no actual map screen
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: snd doesn't create the map screen
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: did you load the plugins?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: search and destroy has no map of its own, it just uses aardmush's mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: map is created by GMCP mapper if i remember correctly
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: yep.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: I just did mapper hide and it took away the map that came with aard mush
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: is that correct?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: that works with search?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so why would you hide it?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how search works
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: search has no mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i was just making sure thats what it was
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: if i tell my mapper to open 1 direction will it automatically add the reverse?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why would it?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there really aren't 2-way doors, there are sets of 1-way doors...you'll find that lots of doors require a key only in one direction, or even require a different key for each side
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or that one way has a door and the other doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or that one way has a door and one way forces you to quit clubs you and then steals all your stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Why won't this computer I just bought recognize the SSD I tried to add? Do I need to do something more than plug in the sata3/power cables? Can't find it in BIOS either
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sata should just be plug in and work
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose there could be some sort of firmware bug. See if the computer has any bios update?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Hmm I can see it in device manager now. Not sure what happened but thanks, fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Is breaking DRM still illegal in the US?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to pass something with onchange to JS when i do an alert(var) it gives me [object HTMLInputElement] ... anyone know how to fix it so that it passes correctly?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: figured it out changed it to this.value
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: is there a way to cancel a sound file from playing in mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: just set a trigger to play a 6 minute song. I want it to stop :(
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think you have to use playsound, then makesomething else playsound over the same track
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: um... dont have the trigger play a sound that long
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: was the first .wav file I found
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=PlaySound
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh there's a stopsound function
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: there is a beep that comes with the mushclient from the aard site
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: got it, thx!
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: Is there a thread or something like it to help with making the gq list clickable like the cp list is in winkle's s&d in MUSH? 
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: shouldnt need to make it clickable for gquests
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is not clickable in gqs for a reason...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: The reason being?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: botting effectivly
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: general dislike of people scripting gqs
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: I don't understand what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: the higher tiers dont want the competion.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: that to
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: No, it's possible to participate in GQs without scripts.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Winning is another thing, but you can surely compete.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: it is but you probably wont win any low lvl gquests
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how come my alias for map_goto is broken?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiers don't help with low-level GQs
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: have to set it to "execute"
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the high-level ones where killspeed matters
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien nods at you in agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: If I am understanding what you mean by scripts, then that is what i have been doing, and getting close in some, just was trying to get a little faster is all.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ophelion laughs out loud at you.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wish to get faster, then learn the game and get better
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't dope like lance
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: lol, that's what i have been trying to do. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: a level 1 teir 8 vs a level 1 t0, there isn't any difference??? HAA one can wear 80 level eq while the other can't. how's that fair.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Ophelion, at low levels, it doesn't matter.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't matter in a lvl 1 gq
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ophelion: at low-level ones, correct, there is no difference
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both can one-shot the kills
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: portal access may help a bit though ,but not tons
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: funny, i'm not onshoting them. and i was level 1.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then your equipment sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Then get better gear :)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cos your eq sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: And don't sit at level 1 if you want to be strong :D
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i oneshot lv 1 mobs easily enough when i was t0 lvl 1
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Uphill, both ways, in the snow.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: carring 100lb
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you grew up in america? that's gotta be worse than the snow
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: forgot to mention that did it on snowmobile, so was easy
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Really, Yahoo?  A 16-character password is too weak for you to let me use it?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei sighs.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if it was 0123456789abcdef then yes =p
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: All numbers, but still...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: if it was 1111111111111111 its not gonna accept :P
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats the same combination as my liggage!
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Evidently, length doesn't factor in at all into their "password strength"
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: it probably does
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: a 32 character password using all lowercase letters is too weak
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: but they also check to see if its not all 1 type of character
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: a 6 character password using a lowercase letter, an uppercase letter, and a number is "very strong"
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As xkcd has taught us, password requirements have become easier for computers to guess, harder for people to remember
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: correct horse battery staple
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: eventually psswords will need to be entered in with computer programs....
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmm. Assuming that your computer is safe, passwords are obsolete. Assuming that your computer is not safe, passwords provide only a weak protection )= Does anyone have a good solution?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: dna lock?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Someone doesn't need access to your computer to brute-force a password
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, that's why they're obsolete. For remote logins, super-duper-long keys might be used instead, with minimal hassle.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Only takes a couple of extra characters to turn an hour-long brute force into a century-long one
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You still need to remember them.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you're at your own computer, and it is safe, then you don't truly need passwords, as keys are simpler to use and more secure.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I guess I'm not sure what you mean by them being obsolete.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you're not at your own computer, or if it is not safe, then passwords can be snooped/keylogged.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mmm.. Did the point make it across?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Cizra, passwords being obsolete in terms of tech hardly means they will be obsolete in terms of customer adoption rates
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Well, a password like 80zhaltlikestodancewithahorseintheSunset is very hard for a computer to guess, but I would not have too much problem remembering it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Zhalt, but this password can be snooped/keylogged at an insecure/foreign computer. And it's uselessly complicated at your own computer, assuming it's secure.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: By "key", you mean something that changes ocassionally, and would be shown to the user by some piece of hardware that's not on the computer?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It can be arbitrarily long and complex, it matters not at all when keylogging.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Keylogging breaches all forms of password OR key protection
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Leinei, not necessarily. It can remain unchanged for a thousand years if it's long enough and never leaks out.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: an otp can be used for the most secure stuff...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then what's the difference between a key and a password?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Vakieh, obviously. If you can install keylogger, then you can also copy the keys out. That's why I assume an "own, secure" computer.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be like saying 'oh, that isn't secure because what if someone held a gun to your head and made you log in' - correct, and we know that, but you need to look at a cost<->benefit scale first
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Leinei, for me, a key is a huge binary blob that nobody would ever remember nor guess. Just too big for that. 
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Vakieh, could you please elaborate on the similarity? I don't see it.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Cost-benefit scale? Well, having your computer remember your keys for you would be 100% beneficial (easy, automatic).
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Shrugs, I know my bank account number, credit card number, and security code.  That's like 40+ characters.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A keylogger will breach all appropriately convenient forms of logging in. As will holding a gun to someone's head. It is not appropriate to mitigate against either instance for the ordinary uses we are discussing here.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Want to discuss DoD highest levels of protection, with duress protocols and physical hardware keys, with a mid-network human layer? Then we can talk about when keyloggers should be mitigated :D
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I don't know my SSH keys. I think the default is 1024 bits for SSH keys, which is equivalent to much more than 128 characters (as they can be any bytes). Much harder to guess anyway.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Most passwords are not encoded in single byte char formats...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's excessively hard to guess.  Doesn't take anywhere near that amount of characters to get something that's impossible to brute force.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'm not competent to talk about DoD highest levels of whatever, but a keylogger can only be installed on a not-your-own or insecure computer. And in that case, you're kind of fucked anyway.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who says a keylogger can't be installed on your own PC?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My point is that a 15 character password with numbers, letters, and symbols is just as secure as a 200 character key.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I say. It must be a basic assumption. If anyone can install anything in your computer, you're fucked.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: At least, until we get quantum computing
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Leinei, as long as it won't get keylogged. Or stored in an insecure manner on the server you're typing it into.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But doesn't a key have those same restrictions/assumptions?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Keys never leave the computer, they're only used in calculations. Passwords always leave the computer and you never know who's MitMing you or whatever.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They can - people make install decisions based on trust all the time - nobody looks through the machine code of every piece of software they install
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And that isn't to mention piggybacking on installs, Java or w/e is the flavour of the day security windows, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Vakieh, big companies have a reputation to uphold. As do Linux distros. I consider it rather unlikely to get crapware from a reputable Linux distro, or malicious software from Microsoft or Apple.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can monitor, and you can be careful, but at the end of the day, ALL systems can be penetrated
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Unfortunately, I must agree )=
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm not saying it would be wilful, but if someone dealing with distribution in M$ or running a github of some populare software decided to attach a keylogger onto the install? Sure, he'd be found out eventually, but in the meantime your passwords, keys, etc are his
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So, uh, assuming your computer gets compromised, keys will leak out, and passwords have the potential to be sniffed. Not much security left, unless you use some kind of nifty hardware.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Exactly - which is why you have to take a cost-benefit approach
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there were several cases of poisoning source code
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Trachx, how and by whom? By the distributer of the code? Or by some third party?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can mitigate brute force and casual hacking by using a password which is of a certain length, is not my username, is not my DOB, etc - easy, simple stuff for the highest benefit
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: third party, but it really doesn't matter who did it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, the damage is the same...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popa Tech: There was a minecraft server plugin a few years back that the guy left himself backdoor access into. Gave him root/running user on the server. He never did anything bad with it, but flexed his muscles with it a few times.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It actually comes down to the same concepts as economics - the amount of effort you put into security should be where the marginal benefit equals the marginal cost.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Vakieh, that's incoming attack. Can you propose a scenario (any scenario, really) where remembered passwords are more secure that stored keys?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: More secure? No. But why would I block myself off from accessing my email when at a friend's house?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: passwords are more secure comparing to non protected keys
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in case that someone has physical access to storage
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or if my company needed me to SSH in to fix a something something while out somewhere away from access to my usual work machine?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, that'd be silly, Vakieh. Some sort of non-home login should remain, but it might be made more difficult -- like SMS verification or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Trachx, depends on when and how etc. If you happened to follow the conversation, then you noticed hopefully that I assume my computer is secure.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In this instance there is a marginal benefit to the use of SSH - higher brute force security. But the marginal costs (such as the development of an entire second tier of security) is higher, and it is thus not worth it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: use of keys, rather
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As an aside, what you are suggesting is also that when someone robs your house and nabs your computer, they gain free access to all of your PI and bank accounts
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if your computer is safe that leaves 2 possibilities: MitM and not secure target host, anyway keys are safer in case your computer secure (or just you have secure store)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for bank accounts you should choose that ones are protected by RSA tokens
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmm, yeah... But this boils down to securing your computer. Hard disk encryption OSLT ought to get standard.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably in few years SED (self encrypting) drives will increase they market share
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The US gov is fighting the use of non-backdoorable drive solutions...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even for DES it is still debatable whether is can be decrypted by third party or not (I mean not brute force, but some clever way)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You can use almost-whole-disk-encryption rather easily, I think? Something with boot loader being unsecured and the rest is encrypted.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: DES? The one with 56-bit keys, considered insecure for like 30 years already?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: DES is prone to brute force, but when it was chosen to be widely used it was considered quite secure
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chroseph Tech: that's why 3DES and AES were never invented
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Moore's Law means no encryption with a brute force 'not for xxx timeframe' defence is futureproof
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes and no, you cannot use as primary with any non 0 weight weapon
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually it is enough just to be more secure than others
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That all depends on whether what you have is better than everyone else
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean that others are easier target in such case
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, anyway. You can encrypt your drive, use only software from official repos.. Hmm, is there a screensaver-based auto-HD-lock?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The Bear Chase defence works for the average home or office PC, but gov and top tier tech don't have that luxury. As their crypto becomes obsolete though, it hits the mainstream market, so that's good
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bear Chase
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: consider Nakamura / Mitnick case
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually the weakest point of security chain is human, I mean social engineering
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well? Mind telling about it?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Quantum computing is going to come and make all this obsolete :P
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Leinei, are you sure? Consider that the biggest thing quantum computing has done so far is to factorize 15 into 3 times 5.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And that was a horrendously expensive and time-consuming research project.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, sure.  I didn't say it was coming next week
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for gov security - consider last drone interception by Iran
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for each lock you can always find good locksmith
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: In November 2011 researchers factorized 143 using 4 qubits.[50] yay, 143 already, not 15.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, Bear Chase is in regards to the joke - A pair of campers are awoken by the sound of a hungry bear snooping outside their tent. One camper panicks, the other puts on his shoes. The panicky camper says 'what, you can't outrun a bear' - the other says 'I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you'
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: panicks? sigh... panics
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Heh, cool.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is a defence similar to Security through Obscurity
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, haven't followed it in a while.  Last I heard, they had only made a 2 qubit...processing thingy
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, 2 bits is not much. I'm not exactly sure how much is 2 qbits, but I'd guess not enough to break anything. So for now, we're better off focusing on the very real problems. By the way, why's Aardwolf limited to 8-character passwords?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, I suppose it doesn't matter much as the passwords are transmitted over plaintext anyway...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aardwolf's hourlong ban policy would be my guess
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Adds a serious level of downtime over and above any timeframe for brute forcing things
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: a lot of security takes assumption that hardware layer is safe
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have access to switches, routers then you can use sniffer to get passwords / logins for so popular protocols like POP3
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: To answer your question, probably because it uses DES encryption
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So if you use numbers, lowercase and uppercase letters in your passwords, you have 218340105584896 different 8-char-long passwords to try...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: people usually are lazy and use the same password for every account, and usually it is easy password
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Trachx, who uses unencrypted POP3 anyway? Everywhere I've seen, it's behind SSL or TLS or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Read the @W last paragraph in help password - 218340105584896 will not be that easy to traverse under such circumstances
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean, when you configure Outlook, Outlook Express which both are widely used, then default is POP3S ? 
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, I just did. I'm not saying anything about Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I have no clue, Trachx. I've never used either. Doesn't it depend on the server anyway, which one it accepts?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that's right, still POP3 is widely used, and it is more commont for server not to have POP3S than POP3
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If the server admin is fool enough to allow unsecured POP3, then the admin might as well be fool enough to leave mail printouts lying around OSLT.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 'fool', why does http still exist? there should be only https as it is more secure, right ?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Er, I don't mind my Slashdot to be unencrypted...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It contains very little personal information (only the fact that I'm interested in Slashdotty things).
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: My mail, on the other hand, contains lots of stuff I'd hate to be public. Photos, for instance.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I remember when Gawker got hacked.  It was like nearly 1/3rd of all users had like one of six passwords.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or something insane like that
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: Any mush pros on?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh wait, Slashdot isn't Gawker, is it?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No clue what Gawker is...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: deadspin, kotaku, lifehacker...all those sites
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: gizmodo
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Was thinking Slashdot was one of them.  Evidently, I don't know what slashdot is
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And I don't know what deadspin, kotaku are.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yay, our intersection of interests is an empty set.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: repla
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, for security reasons, do you encrypt all of your email ?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lifehacker and Kotaku are both Gizmodo, the daily mail-esque scum of the online journalism world. Seriously, they are hack, awful productions.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: In transfer, yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: its simple if it has a yahoo email. I dont trust it :p
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: 80% of 411 scams have been through them iirc
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, did you mean end-to-end encryption with PGP/MIME or similar? No, I don't do that. I'd gladly, but the world is not ready.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well I've tried to use GPG, but it was too much work for recipients
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Can be fixed with more tech. Cached keys on the recipient side or something. Besides, email is becoming less in importance anyway, it seems.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: many ppl divert from emails mainly because they cant send files larger than 15mb in most cases
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Quit
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: mis :P
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: {sfail}480,0,2,-1
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: what tags is this jazz? How do I turn it off?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: statmon
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: no its a spell tag
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: spelltags
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: thank you tho
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: right :p early for me :p
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sfail for you!
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i can live  with it :)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well this is strange, i copied my aardclient stuff to google drive, i open mushclient from a new location and it appears as though my display settings are not here
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: actually, it looks like none of my settings are really here
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i moved the whole folder over
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: check that, my aliases and stuff made it, it looks like it's just the plugins that failed
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: does any plugin for respelling exist?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: download basts plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hmm... for some reason mush is sending command "to world" and "to execute" at the same time, or somethign ot that effect
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Anyone know why MUSH would try to both "execute" and "send to world" an alias?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or, for that matter, everything?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: one expands aliases one doesn't
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what i mean is that i type in my alias, which is sent to "execute"
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and it does what i expect it to do
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but it also gives me a bunch of aard-based syntax error type stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: which tells me that it's taking my alias input and executing it, but also sending it a literal thing to "world"
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and that's very strange to me
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm wondering if a plugin died on me or something
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but i don't even know where to check this
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you have some triggers also
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no triggers
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check what is sent to mud by turning on echo
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have echo on
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if i type aard layout lock, i get this
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Current layout lock status: LOCKED (line break) There is no layout within Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'd bet you don't get that second bit
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I get LOCKED/UNLOCKED message
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, and while i do get that.. i get the extra bit
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you tried 'echocommands' ?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: sounds like its also sending it as a command scars and trying to perform the aard social
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Current layout lock status: LOCKED  (br) You entered:: aard layout lock (br) There is no layout within Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, so instead of execute locally, it's sending the commands to the game... and i don't know why
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: its doing both
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, sorry, i meant instead of just*
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm at a loss here, though... i don't know why it's doing this
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe some plugin is not working
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, but because i'm using the base aardclient package with winkles spellup bot thing... i'm not even sure which one of them would be broke
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: aard_layout.xml
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my point is that it's not just aard layout that does this
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: pick ANY command that would change a setting, and it'll try and send it to the game too
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather aard_helper_aliases plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i tried reinstalling all of the plugins, too
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems like some debug info on
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: nah. sounds more like there's a trigger somewhere with * as its pattern thats just sending to to mud
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is trigger then you probably want disable all plugins and turn off alias and trigger execution
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then turn on each piece one by one starting with aard_helper_aliases
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: not sure i understand how that fixed the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as a lot of plugins acts just like triggers
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: still getting it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: iso techy help with mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: anyone on using bbssh? I can't seem to send messages from the client it doesn't even want to write a message...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I have a button which re-sorts data by a column in an Excel Spreadsheet, can anyone think of a way to this without a macro or without making the user go to sort dailog?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: key bind
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Would I key bind the macro though?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: I would assujme you can do something along the lines 
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, i think there's now something wrong with my inventory object ID plugin or something
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: when i type inv, i sends inv twice... once without ojbect ID's next to it, and right after it the same thing but with the object ID's next to it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: reinstalling didn't work
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: enable/disable didn't work
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which eq plugins do you have loaded?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the one that comes with the aardclient... inventory_serials
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: aardwolf_inventory_serials
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the info on the plugin didn't seem to have a help built in to it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you also have mine loaded?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i do not
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the only plugin i have that doesn't come out of the box is winkle's spellup
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i can live without the plugin, i just find it's behavior to be odd
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: woah, that's new... when i scroll back i get this pop up window of "recent messages"  how do i make that go away?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: "recent output" sorry
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: don't scroll up
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't I walk you through installing that plugin because you were unhappy with how MUSH didn't have a real split-window for scrollback?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: not that i recall, no
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to set the max number for a html field with JS using document.getElementsByName("level").max = '201'; ... but it does not seem to work, the max lets me go past 201, any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scars: that should be the Current_Output_Window.xml plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: bingo
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: apparently that came with the download
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm already used to double clicking the "MORE" thing at the bottom, so that was just annoying
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: as for your inventory thing, if you unload the serials plugin, does it show twice?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no, if i remove the inventory_serials plugin, it does not show twice
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what plugins do you have loaded? because it seems to me that something else is reading between the <invdata> tags but not omitting them like the serials plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: its being caused by one of the nick gammon plug ins
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i had this problem earlier, where everything i type in is executed and sent to world
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so it's doing "inv" and utilizing the serials plugin, and also sending "inv" to the game
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ANSI_Log is the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yup, removed that and all is well
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: strange
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: does anyone know about using mudwalker on a mac?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: How does one even set an aliase in mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: like for lasertag
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: control-shift-9
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: alt-F4
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: that's mean, I meant to say F1
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: getsuko hmu for a prize after this game
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: what is the standard variable in mushclient when making an alias? i.e. if i want r 'x' to reply 'x', what would i use for 'x'?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you looking for a pointer to documentation?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: 0x3A28213A
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: There is an explanation here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: number 22
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8084
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Getsuko: you know you can link directly to reply numbers
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: number 22cons
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: mis*
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh that's the faq, never mind
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just add #22 to the url
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (only for the faq)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: do people get the 'unable to create save state' error messages from mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What are you trying?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: nothing, randomly stuff triggers it.  I can tell it's coming from miniwins like the score miniwin
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I also have bast's plugins.  Sometimes when vote turns red, it also pops up
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you using windows vista, 7, or 8?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: 7
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is mushclient in your program files?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: It didn't used to do this.... only started a couple days ago.  Mush is in my documents folder (haha don't ask)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my documents is fine
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd reboot and if it persists check the drive for errors
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Good idea.  I haven't restarted in awhile.... It's an SSD so I wouldn't think there are errors
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: SSDs fail all the time
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they're rather notorious for firmware problems
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: and it's a new SSD as of a few months ago
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: aren't they relatively new to the market... bound to be a few kinks for the coming years
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Getsuko: He's trying to help you troubleshoot. While there probably isn't anything wrong with the drive checking it eliminates that as a possibility.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I know ::)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Rondel: SSDs have been around quite a while now, though compared to standard hard disks they are fairly new.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: SSDs have been around for a while, but MLC drive firmware is still relatively nascent technology
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all kinds of tricks have to be employed because MLC cells wear rapidly
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: does anyone know where the mapper data is stored?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I am trying to reinstall mush
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: iso help with triggers concerning mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not a question
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: By the way, the errors I was getting earlier (unable to save state), Bast figured out it's probably permission errors due to it being in My Documents. Put MushClient into C:/games and it works better
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I had something similar in Morrowind. Apparently the program file dir was full of impassable permissions.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Oh Windows
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: My Documents has problems too? sigh
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: hard drive making a squeaking noise, any ideas? (not a clicking, SQUEAKING)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its broke
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: damn, wonder how its still running windows mush and many other programs :(
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Turn it off! make a backup asap
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Back up, and replace.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Mouse possessed your HDD Mokg :P
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: only periodically squeaks, maybe 3 minutes every few days
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: regardless, backup your stuff. =p
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: At least put mush on a thumbdrive
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: guess I can justify getting an SSD now
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: What OS is everyone using?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: EVERYONE?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there any way to reload a plugin via a mush command?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Win7
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=ReloadPlugin
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Win7 x64 Ultimate checking in
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Fedora 17
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 64 bit
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: thank you sir!
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'm on a Mint Nadia system at the moment... I need a better client though.  I'm using Mudlet. meh.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient works perfectly in Wine for me
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Okay this is a dumb question... but I forgot how to do this and I forgot where to find the way to do it: how do I run a script command at the command line (like a one-off)?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: not really interested in Wine just for a mud client
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You should have Wine installed anyway because Wine is a really cool project
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Ah it's /!
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You should install wine in to your mouth.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Ooh. What client are you using for Fedora? I'm dual booting xp/mint but I'm running the mush aardwolf package since I wasn't sure if there'd be something good to run for Linux, with all the plugins and stuff. WINE never ran anything for me >.>
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The Aardwolf MUSHclient package uses \\\ by default to run scripts from input
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Thanks :)  for some reason it's / for me... I may have changed it
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aweyn: I'd feel really bad if I didn't use the aardwolf mushclient package myself
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not used to people asking me what client I use
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: most people these days know I work on aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusk grins evilly at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you have problems with Wine, though, I might be able to provide a small amount of help since I've managed to work around problems in the past
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (though it works almost perfectly at the moment barring a 1 pixel drawing issue in the mapper that doesn't happen in Windows)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: colorcheck
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: colorcheck
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Soz ^^'
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblyx Tech: am I able to lock down the miniwindows in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: for aardmush use "aard layout lock" for bast plugins click the M>Toggle>lock window in place
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblyx Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: only downside i've noticed so far is that it's kind of annoying having to resize the windows, but meh
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Must be on Topfox Tech: what is the smalest sized full movies you can download on the net and where?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wrong place for that
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: Dagnir > Starphoenix
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: channel nazi
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: wasnt it her that was real bad about it when i was last active? thought that was the right name. so many come and go cant remember
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone else repeatedly dropping aard connection? Internet working fine otherwise...
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try traceroute
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Actually now that you mention it. I'm fairly sure mine a wifi problem, though. Just in case
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or set pagesize if your connection drops while executing who
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not doing anything unusual, just randomly lag out, reconnects nearly immediately after the lag spike
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's almost always problem with routing or misconfigured torrent client on your home network combined with a cheap and shitty router
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: could be also wireless problem (if your ISP uses somewhere wireless links), assymetric route or just full NAT (torrent or other P2P)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol - Over $1000 of correctly configured networking equipment here :-) The issue might well be with the ISP, but based on observations connecting to other web apps inc. other muds the issue isn't on my end
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tried traceroute?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have several routers in network they could cause problems in case of try to be helpful
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, some switches don't remember long enough MAC on their port, so it happens that instead of using direct link between 2 ports of switch, switch starts to broadcast packets to all interfaces
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Vakieh: Do you have this problem with anything other than the MUD?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What I was going to say was: Intermittent - the tracert goes through without a hitch, and I haven't been able to time it right as the lagspike hits as yet
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: broadcast storms shouldn't be causing this unless you're using very dated equipment
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then a lag spike hit and I timed it right :-P Turns out there are issues between my ISP and the international backbone out of Au
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how often does it happen? do you have any network monitoring tools?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use wireshark to diagnose whether there are no duplicates for aard connection
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ah, that sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so you'd have trouble connecting to anything offshore, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: AU? should have said that right away :P
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 1am here, so assuming maintenance
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use mtr to continuously do traceroute
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sounds like a good time to go to bed
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i get an alias to recognise what the wildcard is when ive got it set to "send to script"
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: So, any ideas why I am the only one at my office having problems doing a svn checkout to my program files folder, using windows 7. (yes, I know, shouldn't play around there, but it seems that I kinda need to with this program)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What problems?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: what kind of errors are you getting? I would usually attribute that to a permissions issue
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Golurz Tech: It seems like the first time i log on I will see the chat messages in the newbie and gossip channels and a list of tells ect that i have missed since i was on, but it won't accept any of my input, when i log off and back on again it functions normally, anyone know whats up with this?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: WEll, if I try to do svn checkout there, it says 'access denied' but I can copy and paste the whole thing (with the .svn folder) there after checking it out somewhere else. But then I get sql errors for read only on update. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Are you checking out directly to the root of Program Files, or a subfolder?  You might try editing permissions on a subfolder to allow Full permissions to an Everyone user and that will allow it to read/write to that folder
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: it is in a subfolder, and it seems I can't edit permissions myself. Bleh.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: yeah, if you're getting readonly errors it's likely a strict permissions issue
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Ive had permission problem in prog. files with Morrowond. 
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Maybe I"ll just turn off entirely the UAC. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Good idea.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, it's a stupid idea
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: keep the stuff that needs writing in your user folder
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Permissions being set that way is actually a good thing...
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Would you remove your front door because you lost the key?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Well, have you a better idea to make it work properly? Apparently I'm the only one at the office with problems. And since the program itself wants information in its application folder within the program files, I do actually need to work there in this case.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no IT department?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: A folder within the program files, right, not the actual program files folder?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But I guess that means svn needs to be able to write to Program Files.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Could you not check with the rest why theirs is working?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: 'it just works' ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm...
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Scars, our IT deparatment is the problem, not the solution. ;) They are part time IT, full-time graphics artists. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Urp.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh god
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that sounds awful jaenelle
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I sent in an IT request anyways, so we'll see what happens. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Can anyone recommend a good/reasonably-priced managed hosting service? As much as I generally dislike GoDaddy, it seems to be better than 1and1, Hostgator, and BlueHost...used to use MediaTemple but its more than I need right now
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: hey is it legal to make a trigger for terminate to activate when a mob hp reach 15% 
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: how is that considered botting in any way???
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popa Tech: Because Lasher said so.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually that should be fine
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at Popa, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although it wouldn't work if you stack any other attacks
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: its kind of like the auto quaffer example in help botting
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, autoquaffing is fine...being afk in an aggro room while autoquaffing isn't
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: so kinda like that i think... may
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: maby
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same thing, your current fight will end with success or failure and no new fights will start as a result of the term trig
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: it was my under standing that a trigger would over ride your command
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your understanding is incorrect
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD doesn't know whether something was a trigger or a typed command, and the MUD had already received the typed command
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: does the mushclient have an alias window?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: ctrl+shift+9 to bring up the alias window
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i prefer to right click the main output window>world config to get to the alias window.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Need some help with Redhat if anyone is proficient with it, pm me.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the linux distribution? or the older women with purple clothes?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Red hat linux, yes
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: I am trying to figure out why my planesmob plugin by bast isn't working. Is the aardb.lua file supposed to be in the lua directory and is it the only one associated with the plugin i need to worry about?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type plookup mob
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: it doesn't work, just always comes back as none.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type plookup aa. You should have 4 names pop up.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: nope, says none
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't have moved any files from where they are in the bast folder hierarchy
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: i didn't
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: can variables be incorporated into alias on zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried using @varname?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is zmud like mush in the way it uses aliases?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but really, unless you've been using zmud for 5+ years and know its inner workings, nobody should be using zmud today
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and even then...
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: ANyone besides me have some random program that they have to use for work that they just /hate/ working with? :P The one that always seems to cause problems? (besides Windows itself) ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do services count?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: sure. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle is irritated at Arbortext again atm. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Is anyone else as interested in Ubuntu mobile as I am?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It will not be able to compete with Android - thankfully, as a non-profit, it doesn't have to.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I have a dream of consolidated tech into one gadget. If it takes hold it'd be a dream come true :3
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: And isn't it made to run alongside android, and share drivers and such?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: anyone uses bast's respell plugin and can offer some help?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: can you change exits to show they are locked in the aardmush mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not without automatic cexits
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you can level lock an exit at 300 which will never mean you try and o that way
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: but that is not locked
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: ahhhh...good plan and thanks both
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: true not locked, but does depend what he is trying to do
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: if I delete room and redo, will it set exit to locked?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: that high level lock is useful for doors that you should just walk around. :P Like in zyian.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain rapidly nods twice at Jaenelle, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it will set exit. nothing more
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: and zangar
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Just right click the room in the mapper, then you can change exit lock if you want
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and xyl
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: and masquerade
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: very helpful and thanks all
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: Im stuck with half screen empty, is there any command to make my screen with whole line instead breaking down in 2 lines?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Friday commit messages.... :P 'new and improved, fancy dancy, red reload button!' :P
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: monday commit messages -- backed out red button due to errors
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: no, that was the previous red button that was actually black :P
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Anyone else running an android. Finally got quadrant on my Desire z and found it's on par with a Galaxy Nexus when overclocked :3
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: sort of..
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: turned on debug for planesmob finder by bast and everytime i do a plookup <mob> it shows open-conns: 0->1 then close-conns: 1->0 and results are None all the time. anyone have any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could learn the planest
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: the aard flash client keeps crashing on me
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: works for awhile and then plugin freezes entire browser
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McLowery Tech: Why are you using the flash client?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: cause my main character's autospawned on aard mush and i never bothered creating others
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McLowery Tech: You should be able to use any client no matter where you started.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McLowery Tech: What operating system do you have?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: your character isn't tied to a client...
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: vista, i'm on http://aardmud.org:443/FMud/Aardwolf-Fmud2.html
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i just created this character to discuss, mushclient autologs to my other character which is currently decommissioned
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: so, a error in the flash implementation i guess may be causing it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Perhaps you could try java or something. I generally don't have much stock in flash.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: rabshakeh not that hard to change login info on aardmush
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i'm not too interested in building myself a supernewbie though :p, this is just a temporary hobby
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: And that. If you're not using it there shouldn't be much problem in reconfiguring. And you can still login with this char, regardless of client.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i just thought i'd point out that some bugs do exist in the flash client
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it isn't a bug in the client, it is that flash generally sucks for long running processes
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aweyn nod
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aweyn nods.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: Anyone can tell me what debug open - conns: 0 -> 1 and close - conns: 1 -> 0 mean for planesmob plugin? Always returns a none for plookup.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, something is wrong with that plugin, I haven't had a chance to look at it though
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: It is working for some players though?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, and I don't know why, it works for me fine, but it doesn't work for some people even though the database has the info in it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: Good to know anyway. It has been driving me crazy. lol.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: hey techs -- I'm looking to buy a new PC.  Want to run 3 - 4 monitors.  What's the best way to do that?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: you need a good video card for 3+ monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: my Asus LCDs are starting to smell like burnt plastic, which has me worried about health risk and their remaining life....
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: define "Good" video card?  I need one with 3 outlets on it, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: is it better to get 1 card or multiple?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: depends, will you need the pc for gaming?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: not mud, like gfx intense stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: mostly office desktop apps, but would like it to handle games
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: and what sort of budget are we talking about here?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: also want it QUIET... though
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no budget
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: reasonable
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: twin cards, dual ports - 4 monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dfury how does that compare to 1 card 4 ports 4 monitors?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: prolly better if you get either ati with crossfire or gforce that also has options to combine two
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: depends on the software that uses it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: twin is more resilient
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: but two powerhorses like that wont be quiet
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: there is an ATI card that has like 5-6 outputs but i cant remember what it is called
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when one fail the second still works
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: if we are talking no budget, i'd put it in a refrigerated closet
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: unfrotuantely space constrained or I would lock the PC case away
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if I want quiet for desktop apps on 4 screens, and OK with noise for gaming, can I just run 2 cards, but only connect to 1 for office and the other gaming-heavy for games?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i.s. switch the cables
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: dont think you'll find lots and lots of games to work on 4 monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i guess that's a good point.  I just need the extra monitors for office stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: in fact I can't even think of any game I would want to play that takes up more than 1
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: just take a look at some pc shops for the higher end nvidia/ati stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: flight simulators
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: all the specs are usually there
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: does anyone have experience with a good, modern GPU which doesn't emits tons of noise under load?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I really hate thearing these things spin up if I play a game
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need water cooling then
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: maybe non-conductive oil cooling, in case of a leak
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or go passive
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: Is there a way to C&P mapper cexits from the "mapper cexits here" command?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What are you trying to do Ron?  You can copy them easy enough, but not back into mapper...
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: im trying to share it with a friend. its a long, compound cexit.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Then just select it and copy it, send it in a note or something....
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: or use mapper where to get the path with the cexit in it...
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone experienced with squid? trying to set up a transparent proxy on my home server, but i'm getting TCP_DENIED/403 on all connections. squid.conf - http://pastebin.com/zGkaymJ8
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, damn, i see it now. must have been blind
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}V4 or Bust Xyzzy Tech: you once were blind, but now can see?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}V4 or Bust Xyzzy Tech: there's a song there, somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: dagnir maybe the rain is gone?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: is there are good level gain/report scripts out there for the aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: sharptracker
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: wow terrible grammar on my part lol
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: how do you use mush mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: on other client i type mapper help and things and this one doesn't
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: n/m i see it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: anyone have trouble with amusement park mobs when using xrt?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: how do you sel the amount of lines on screen
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i'm at about a quarter screen before pressing enter
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you mean paging?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help paging then
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't look like i'll be buying Bioshock Infinite
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they only released it for crap OS's
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the sudden obsession with vista/7 only games?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: there are likely a lot more Vista/Win7 customers than Win8 customers 
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't have win8
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so i guess they either bring out a linux port, or they can go fly a kite
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when Win7 folk upgrade to Win9, they are gambling that they are not going to get screwed into being forced to upgrade their hardware -- (and "Casinos are going bust", so gambling is not so much fun anymore)
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: free market in action, $60 they won't be seeing from me :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's because of directx, nuts
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: directx is supposed to have been the antidote to that, dagnir
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, xp doesn't support dx10/11
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shouldn't need to
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yet you're still whining that you can't play a game on an ancient os
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ain't ancient
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, only 12 or 13 years?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: simple solution, release dx10 for xp
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: can someone please tell me the color code used for the AFK flag?  i dont have an xterm 256 capable client, and the [AFK] flag is the the only thing in the whole game that shows up as true white
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: %%W shows grey to me
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: bprompt Hp:%p Mn:%P Mv:%N TNL:%X Align:%a Qt:%q Enemy: x%
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: it doesn't show percentages 
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: seems free-money to waste on vices and games is in short supply these days -- people can't gamble, and are wary of supporting software crooks that screw them in an endless recycle of upgrades
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i still don't understand why some people insist on running xp
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because we don't want to have to pay money for an os that is worse that we neither wanted or needed
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when i finally am forced to upgrade by breakage, i'll be going to *nix
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. you used to hate *nix
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: besides, w7 is awesome
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i still do
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: qr
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i still have to support xp machines. annoying
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Ylar tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's easy
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not compared to 7
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i mean, it's not hard
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm forced to use 7 at work. hate it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I prefer 3.11 for workgroups myself!! Has minecraft by default.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but really damn annoying once you get used to all the nifty things 7 offers
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: crappy dell machine doesn't help
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't want nifty things
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i want bombproof things that do what i want
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i run debian stable on servers for that
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is why i still use zmud, it's like a tatty old comfortable pair of slippers
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: love zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, with empty used syringes in them
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned trendy :-'.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm also still on zmud, but not because i like it. i'm just too lazy to port all my sripts
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: get the 5.22 version of zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: www.jarda128.net
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd be mudding on my c64 if i thought i could get away with it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, perhaps not, the keyboard was awful
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: there may've been several technical reasons that Bioshock did not support Win8 - lack of sufficient inexpensive information on how to interface with Win8
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll wait for the nix version
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: also, the number of Win8 customers may not be economic compared to the numbers of Vista/Win7 customers
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ubuntu for Nexus 7 tablet......
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and what if the Bioshock game does not run okay on ipads or compares poorly to superior games that run on ipads -- so they cater to customers that are Vista/Win7 locked
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it won't work on ipads and never will, it's a games rig game
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: what wont work on ipads?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: interfacing to an ipad is likely different to interfacing to a keyboard mouse and or gamecontroller
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ubuntu on nexus 7 is less useful. No video out
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if the game won't work on ipads, and Win8 is mostly going to ipads, no use catering to Win8 until the customer numbers justify the interface expense
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zade, please go kill yourself
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: uh... win8 mostly going to ipads? what are you on about
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: blowtorch works fine
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're spewing so much stupid it's starting to hurt
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: and windows 8, is on everything new.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i like the motto "if it isn't broke, don't fix it."
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I've had my new laptop only a few days with windows 8 and I have 0 complaints
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: i love windows 8.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: even the unstable beta was good.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i stockpiled w7 licenses :)
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: unstable /= good
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: do you have a start button or a wall paper for your desk top?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: it was open source, that was the good part.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: good thing about windows 8, it is custimizable almost to any end,
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: not only are Casinos going bust from lack of spare monies, some software game developers won't gamble monies on Win8, prefering the already established markets of Vista/Win7 -- maybe "Microsoft may go bust" :) 
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: from what i ahev heard of win8, you need a 3rd party program to get the start button back. 
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: not true
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there's a registry hack afaik
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: ding ding
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: ahh, i've heard of that as well. if you have to hack it just for the start button. no deal for me then.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: users require to (illegally?) hack to get around something
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, god, zade, please gtfo. please
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: not that kind of hack, it's just a simple registry change form 0 to 1 or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: illegally hack something that is yours...
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so if you own a cellphone, you may "hack" the cellphone to be unlocked - legally? 
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seriously - shut up already
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: though it voids the warranty
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hyp.. I wonder if that would really hold up, wouldn't magnuson moss warranty act apply?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: somebody mentioned dracionian penalties in the USA for unlocking cellphones
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: it would be illegal to hack and get free service, but not to just simply hack the phone.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: and its called jailbreaking.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only if it's an iphone =p
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: ok, theres rooting, and jailbreaking i guess.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think the FCC screwed up on the whole "unlocking your phone is illegal". It is basically cellphone makers not wanting people to put what they want on their phones.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: I think it has more to do with the cellphone makers wanting to be able to offer subsidized phones without worrying about the consumer taking their subsidized phone to a competitor.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Also, I think most people would much rather have a cheap phone that is locked to a carrier than have to pay more.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Schnapps... Jailbreaking/rooting and providor locked phones are not related.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Over here, the network just signs you up on a plan that stretches for a minimum of 2 years and lets you do whatever you want.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: id like a cheap phone..thats a phone. not a freaking computer. they can get rid of all the other shit and make something fo 10 bucks
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: And during those first 2 years you pay an extra premium for the phone.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: You can get a nokie 3330 for something like 30 bucks I think Rusk.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i went for e52
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: very happy with it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I paid about 50 for a really, really crappy android phone that I use at work. Always plugged in, only call from it.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Although I don't think there's anything wrong with the battery, just haven't had a reason to test it.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Somehow a plugin window got above the status toolbar
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: I cant get a grab to pull it back down
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: any ideas
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: but s/d plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: thanks greenacid
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: NP
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh......Winklewinkle's bot script.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: first time i ever seen you even breath green :P
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: if only i could make a spellup plugin for vip mucd an use mccp easily
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish comforts Jenni.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: thats vipmud i am so frustrated.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: mush client is sucking my comp's resources for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry to hear that
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: it used to not.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: till i think i got some mini win plugins, they doint work for me. something about jaws
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: oh no, the fan gets more goin by the second, hold on getting vip
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: now, if we could get me a basic spellup and what not goin for vip and get mccp goin i would be happy
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: it gots its own output
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: basic spellup you have from the game
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: can i spellup others with that i cant remember.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: sweet, my memory sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: now, mccp.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: finger arkanes
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: all those plugins and all i needed.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: howcome search and destroy doesn't find brightsea and glimmerdim
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you haven't explored it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: this should be lots of fun
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i'm there now
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: so what do i tell vipmud to do now?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't understand the question
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: he's already VIP, what more can he do
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you are running Arkanes's thing, then what you do is tell it to connect to 127.0.0.1 instead of aard's address
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: from the looks of it it connects to the mud and you connect your client to it, but i am kinda not all there right now and cant find a helpfile
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i think i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, jenni: while mccPiMP is much newer than the mcclient proxy, it's still old enough to have a no-longer-valid setup by default because Aard has changed domain names
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: should file a report. see if Arkanes comes back and fixes it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can right-click the port 4000 server entry, select edit, and change it from "aardwolfmud.org" to just "aardmud.org"
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then point VIPMud to 127.0.0.1 port 4000
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: well, figured out what it was up too, and that failed.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i want my stuff back. what worked for me. and darn it i will have it.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I made a boo boo... What's the command to reset the MUSHClient? cuz resetaard isn't fixing my windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}New Shag Carpet Tech: did you hit save changes?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: don't think so... somehow I moved the info bar and all my windows moved out of the screen to the right :(
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Anyone here that has the Zalman Z9 U3 Mid-Tower Chassis?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is there a way to find out which version of lua my mushclient is using?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: wtf, EB Games here in Au is offering pre-orders on the PS4 :-S
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: if you've got a miniwindow off the screen, where the top (draggable part) is not visible, how do you reset it on screen?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: resetaard will work on most of the windows
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: awesome, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: np :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: and whats wrong with them getting preorder on ps4?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It hasn't been officially announced re: specs, price, launch titles, etc - and they are listing a price - AU$899
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>="You") Shatan Tech: Anyone have any idea why my client keeps doing throwing this error? GMCP DATA ERROR: C:\MUSH\lua\json\decode.lua:91: Invalid JSON data
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>="You") Shatan Tech: I even installed a completely clean fresh client in a diff location and it did same thing. I think its mud side with a config of some kind
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: without any other info I'd look at your firewall 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: muddle on it - think about it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: how do i remove all my mapper portals?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: mapper help all
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: trying to help a friend set up aard mush - anyone have any idea why output from the mud isnt being received? only certain channels that are captured on the comm log are appearing in the main window
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: commands are being echoed though in the main window, and seems like input is being sent to the mud - just no output back from the mud apart from those channels/tells
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: u can right click on the comm log and select the stuff to capture
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: or rather the additional to capture
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Fiendish!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that is not the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: spent over an hour trying to fix my client last night =P Needless to say I found a bug.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: report it to me
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: how do you want it? Note, going through your website? Snail-mail?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and for thunderaxe's friend's issue, that's usually the result of adding lots/all of bast's stuff at once and them conflicting with each other...usually a quit/restart gets things to display again
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can mention it here to see if it's a known thing first
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course the control of "do you experience it on a stock aardMUSH before adding in 3rd party plugins"
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: It's my fault but a bug non-the-less :) Miniwins aren't supposed to move once you lock layout. I accidently moved my info bar and my miniwins jumped off my screen to the right. Took me awhile to figure out the "aard layout" command :)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: other then that I <3 the client :)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how do you move the info bar?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: click on the very top and drag
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: was tryint to highlight my text with the mouse and accidently picked up the info bar and drug it to the side of the window. I think windows 7 tried making my info bar a normal window locked to the left of my screen. My miniwins jumped off screen to the right and I was stuck for an hour =P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, there is no part of the info bar that is draggable for me...you mean the bar between the very bottom and where you type stuff, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: trying too...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, I found a 1-pixel spot on the very left rather than the top
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just after it's the left-right arrows to change MUSHwindow width
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and wow yeah, I just made the info bar put a grey block covering the entire left 2/3rds of my MUSH
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: yeah, that spot works too... double click the border on the top and you can drag there as well... I just did it again. Drag the info bar to the text win from the mud and BANG Miniwins go flying off the right.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putting it back down doesn't help
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, I did just get it to return to normal by doingyour double-click trick...that made it the floating window, then when I re-docked it at bottom all my miniwins returned where they were
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Abe, I used View->reset toolbar locations.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: could be it.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it seems to be a MUSH-itself bug and not an aard package bug
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: could be. I just knew my miniwins were gone so I wanted to let Fiendish know.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kinda stupid the way it docks to the left/right taking up that much space rather than switching to a vertical orientation
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite concurs with you.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even using reset toolbars, I haven't been able to reproduce the MWs not going back the way they belong
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Abe, you on win 7?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, XP
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: weird... Now my miniwins are cooperating... must've been a fluke. I did notice that the miniwins were stuck to the right of the screen when I finally could get them back.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rangah Tech: I know I saw a link once to running aardmush on linux/wine.  Whats the link? :)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost all things aardmush are at his site
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://tinyurl.com/aardclientwiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rangah Tech: thank you both :)'
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Unforgiven Tech: Anyone here good at spreadsheets? I haven't used it in a long time and have some simple formula/fill issues :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Unforgiven Tech: The formula I'm using is =40(C2*1.02) and when I fill right it changes C2 to D2. I need C2 to stay constant through the filling of cells.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Unforgiven Tech: I know there is a way to do it, just can't remember how.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: put a dollar sign on the thing you want constant
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Unforgiven Tech: That's it, thanks Thunder
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in lua im using x["blagh"] = {"boop1"=1} .. is there a way i can concat boop2=2 into that table?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: x["blagh"]["boop2"] = 2
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also x.blagh.boop2
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: looks like you might need a IF command 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make sure that x["blagh"] exists before doing what I just said though or you'll be trying to index into nil
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i already have the check in place, so it wont be nil, thanks for the help that was too easy =/
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: does mushclient recognise decimal point? or should we use fraction?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: ok, an anyone give me an idea how to get rid of these mini windows in mushclient? the aard version. I disabled, and even removed, the new connection one, but that window on the side, the welcome message, is still there. I'm using a screen reader so I need some kind of menu/dialog option
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Macbeth: that is not a complete question
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What do you mean by recognise, Macbeth?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: also, I need to get rid of the pracs/trains window too, but I don't see an active plugin related to that
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm guessing floats in scripting...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: statmon 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Faylen: pracs/trains is Aardwolf_Statmon
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: meant to say is. must i specifically cast a variable in mushclient? or is it like php, where a $x can be anything i assigned it to
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's a little better...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not really better
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Mushclient scripts are Lua?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no such thing as casting from a fraction to a decimal
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: computers don't do algebra
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm ignoring the first question, since he found another way to ask it.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Until he re-incorporates the first question's contents.. I'm assuming he was just looking for the right words to use.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: right on Trurien.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: so a float? Alright cheers
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Uhhh...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Have you checked a Lua reference?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lua variables don't store types, that's done at use time, not assign time
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and all math is done internally as double precision floats
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: thanks Fiendish. I got rid of that, now to get rid of this welcome message
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a checkbox in the message for if you don't want it iirc
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: yeah. The message says that, but I can't get my reader to interact with that check box for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you start MUSHclient, it should also tell you: Screen reader users: To bypass the welcome screen and connect to the game, type "connect to aardwolf" without the quotation marks and then press enter.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: or well, more accurately, I probably can but then every time I go to the close button it tries to close aard, not that dialog
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing that performs 2 actions: (1) it checks that checkbox so the welcome screen shouldn't come up anymore, and (2) it connects to aard
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: ah, got it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone got a link to that mush autosave script?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbsh
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9405&reply=6#reply6
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9405...6th reply
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can link to replies
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, didn't I see you sayng that very thing to getsuko yesterday? :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a relatively recent feature for the forum
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: main reason I didn't do that was I was taking my answer from here: 2013-02-17.txt:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9405...2013-02-17.txt:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Scroll down to reply #6
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I probably said it to daesilme too
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well would you look at that...2013-02-17.txt:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daesilme: you can link to specific replies on the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: have any of you thought about becoming lawyers?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: until i looked at the job market
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: although you would have to check the legalities of recording people all the time
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: anyone have suggestions for a way to force IE to download an xml file rather than opening it that doesn't involve right clicking on the link?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ctrl click?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alt-click, not ctrl-click
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-click opens in new tab
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, I was looking in chroms
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i was just guessing from memory
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: was i right? probably not since i don't see an eclipse right now
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in ie ctrl is new tab, alt is new window
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: no way to change the link to the file or something to force a download? My clicking is being very uncooperative
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could just click to have it open and then save as
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: that's what I tried, but it's not clicking in the right place, apparently. save as is unavailable every time I try it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: open the xml then save as?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: oh oh, I see what you mean. hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file menu -> save as
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: or ctrl+s iirc
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: that worked. Figured I was trying to overcomplicate it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: on search and dest. when the hunt trick keywords are wrong, is there a way to fix them
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: perform a new hunttrick
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: another way is to open the xml>select all>copy>paste into a txt>rename txt to xml
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, how far we've come in just 3 1/2 years...http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9753
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't do it that way, as select all might not be select all
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: ah it shows up on where but not hunt :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: guess its the way its supposed to be
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, from gammon not even having a planned mapper to what you have today, I'd say it's "just" 3 1/2 years for a hella lot of progress
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: corliss: have you put the entire unzipped-but-unmodified Bast folder inside the Plugins folder? 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to file -> plugins, click add, go into the Bast folder first, then scroll to the file miniwin_tabbar.xml (not just tabbar)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've performed both of those steps, then it would help to say what message/error you received
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any C# gurus around? I'm trying to do some data analysis in parallel...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I have some very general questions about which methods to use for the problems I want to solve.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Maybe I should stick with MatLab. Thanks :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: this muchclient is 4.84, one with my main char (frozen) is 4.81, how would i place what settings i have stored in that one, into this one and select between them?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: AardMUSH or vanilla (regular) MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: aardmush
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com...click the screenshot, click download client
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: follow the instructions on that page
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i spent alot of time setting up exits and alias's and stuff on it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly shoulda spent less time getting frozen }:>
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: yeah well, i won't do it again
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what does mapper call "into the long night" I can not find it on mapper areas?(aardmush
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Into The Long Night
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's there for me.  ABC order
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: 100  200   60  Jubilee          Into the Long Night         
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have you been to the area?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: not for me, I am trying to purge the area with mapperpurge zone
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yes I have been there
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you already purge it?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It only shows mapped areas
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mapper find portland Avenue still works and routes me to Portland Avenue in the arae
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: area*
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Try "mapper areas night"
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Try "mapper areas night key
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: there we go, it was not in mapper areas for some reason
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why are you trying to purge long night anyway?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: boredom
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: anyone know how to alias two commands with a semicolon in between using tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: #alias {foo} {bar1;bar2}
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: I tried two semiolons but it didnt work.  
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: Hm, those {} didn't help :(
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: OH you can backslash the semicolons!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You only backslash the colons if you want to escape them and send a literal colon to the mud. tt++ is also smart enough to not parse anything between { and }, so you don't need to double them when surrounded properly
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: semi-colons*
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: the prob was that I was trying to do a server-side alias
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: so aardmud treated {} literally
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yeah, for server-side commands, you can escape with a \, or put a \ in front of the entire line
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods, it's becomes much easier to do \gt test1;test2;test3 instead of gt test1\;test2\;test3\;
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: anyone have recommendations for consolidating spell damage messages?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: recommended scripts/plugins I mean
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: damage 2
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not spell
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Doesn't help spells :(
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, misread
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have one that I use for tinyfugue :-)...[4] Your shroud of flame does BAD things to A mechanical crow! [4975]
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Could potentially 'walk' the buffer and if any consecutive lines are the same, accepting wildcard logic, then consolidate and show [#instances] <Message>
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and summing the damage
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Yeah I figure I could do something like this manually but thought there may be a ready-made solution.  Shouldn't be too hard -- just need a complete list of the damage messages that exist (eradicate, unspeakable etc)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help damages is almost all of them
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: help damange verbs
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: damage*
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same file that I said ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: help damage doesn't go there, but it is a related help ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: nice thanks didnt know about it!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, the difference between singular and plural on that helpfile
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's what mine uses: misses|tickles|bruises|scratches|grazes|nicks|scars|hits|injures|wounds|mauls|maims|mangles|mars|LACERATES|DECIMATES|DEVASTATES|ERADICATES|OBLITERATES|EXTIRPATES|INCINERATES|MUTILATES|DISEMBOWELS|MASSACRES|DISMEMBERS|RENDS|does UN(THINKABLE|BELIEVABLE|IMAGINABLE|SPEAKABLE) things to
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure why the ABLEs aren't outside the (), but I didn't write it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: They are "UN"s
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's why the UN is outside the ()
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could've been written as UN(THINK|BELIEVE|IMAGIN|SPEAK)ABLE to save a few characters
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Thanks for posting the regex :)  saves me time!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the uns could have been added for a loss of 4
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: what about "OTHERWORLDLY"? :)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the uns are already saved
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Could also do th UN* and the first couple, and just match on the first non-alphanumerical character until you get "to", get name, and damage
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: tech The death lords' demonic breath does <-:-><-:-*-:-><-*-> OTHERWORLDLY <-*-><-:-*-:-><-:-> things to the black necromancer! [72252]
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's a mobprog, not a real damage
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: yeah, true
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: It's alot of damage
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and probably didn't exist as of like 6 years ago when I started using this (and lord knows when nimrodel actually wrote it)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Do people define their triggers in their script file somehow to keep all the script/triggers in one place?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how to organize things like that depends on your client
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: (mush)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MUSH, I wouldn't suggest a script file
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can put related triggers into plugins, and leave the random ones in the world trigger definition (game -> configure -> triggers)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I see, so you bundle into plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: A script file is good for small things, or stuff you want to be able to access with the script prefix.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, plugin is the designed way to put like-stuff together...triggers, variables, aliases, scripts, everything associated with a particular use
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd much rather use dofile or require if I want special code from something not in a plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an easy plugin-making wizard which basically just says "select all the triggers, etc that you want" which will "pluginify" stuff for you
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Yeah I saw that :)  The problem is that my triggers and aliases are getting clutered and I don't like editing them in the mush gui :-\
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and from there you can get used to opening the xml files in a text editor to play with them
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: So It'd be nicer to define them in files
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what plugins do
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I see so the pluginify is just a helper if you have them in the main area and you want to move them into a plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Excellent!  I'll try that approach
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because usually when you start working on what will eventually be a plugin, you're just making a regular GUI trigger, alias, etc to test, then making another, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (at least until you're used to the plugin file structure, then you'll just dump them right into that skeleton)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Makes sense.  Thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: any PC enthusiasts on?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, we all hate computers here.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'm going to build an ultra quiet PC.  First iteration will be no special cooling
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'll add the cooling if I need it later
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: does anyone have experience with the Asus DC2 cooling technology on their GTX GPUs?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: My computer makes no noise, it's a mac with no hard drive
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you won't get far with quiet+no cooling
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: anyhow, this will be my first build so just asking for some pointers, I guess
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: with SSD, the sources of noise are just cpu and gpu
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Juic... You're going to be spending quite a bit extra for quiet components, if thats your goal. Just a heads up if cost is a factor
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: most CPU fans I've heard have a lower pitched sound anyway, which isn't as bad as the whiny noise from gpus
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cpu and gpu don't make noise...just fans
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: cost is no issue
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yeah why even build one with old tech
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also don't forget the PSU
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They usually have 1-2 fans on them.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: PSU's don't make much noise
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: put a large fan in the room you use the computer in. you will not hear the computer
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PSUs make quite a bit of noise.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the rigs I've got around here are screamers.  I don't want anything like them.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: thx daloran, and the psu
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if youre not going to do intense gaming on it I'd get a cheap videocard that doesn't use a fan. just a heatsink
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: SSDs will cut down on drive noise - if you're using magnetic drives, make sure to get a case that'll allow you to use isolating grommets for noise
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so does anyone have any experience using passively cooled PSUs, or seen the Asus DC2 cooling technology in action on their GTX or Radeon boards?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I will use SSD.  CAn't think of any downside.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: mokg -- will do gaming on it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Juic.. if they're the cards I'm thinking of - I recall that the passively cooled versions got quite a bit hotter then they were supposed to, and didn't do well without case fans.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only downside is what you've stated isn't an issue for you
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In particular the GTX cards.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: money isn't an issue but I don't like wasting it trying out 3 different components
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: oh, interesting dal.  Hmm.  Do you remember where you would have read about that?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably Anandtech? I don't recall specifically though. Its possibly it no longer applies, was when i bought my last video card... 2ish years ago
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the Dc2 tech does use fans, it just also has a huge heat sink and lots of heat pipes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: newegg reviews are generally pretty insightful
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, wasn't the same as the one I was talking about then. The one I meant was fully passive
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I've never heard of a fully passive GPU.  That would be quite a feat to build one w/ enough strength to be gamer friendly
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They're not unheard of
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'm not a techie, just decided to do this project
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: for funsies
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: great way to learn
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: kind of hard to find people with direct experience w/ these components.. you know?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how am I supposed to know if x PSU is quiter than Y psu?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: same w/ mobo
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Reviews are probably going to be your best friend, especially with noise. a lot of places for the low noise components will take DB ratings for noise, sometimes audio recordings as well
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/how-tos/how-_build_silent_gaming_pc
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: google it online
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The psus with a single larger fan tend to be quieter then those with 2 smaller fans. And there are some psus that are fanless, but you pay dearly for them
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: other than silentpcreview, anyone heard of other places focused on noise?  or tech forums?  Like I said, I'm not a techie.  I will eventually find them on my own but it will take hours
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lowest db <psu, cpu cooler, mb, etc.>?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'm not sure I understood that vorpes, but yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 2 other options to consider, just before you start buying silent parts - is remote mounting the PC an option? Like putting it in a closet and running cables to your kb/mouse/monitor?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sorry google lowest db psu and the others
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I do that.  My office has a closet, and running cables through the wall allows me a high performance PC while being silent.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And if that's not an option, have you considered water cooling? Not neccesarily something I'm familiar with, nor would reccomend, but it will likely increase your component selection quite a bit if you're able to buy the cpu/gpu you like, and then replace the cooling with aftermarket water blocks.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: they had a working example of a water cooled computer in Popular Science
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wario... You say that like you can't go down to best buy and buy watercooling components now =p
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Watercooling is expensive, but not so much if you do it yourself.  However, if you buy from a manufacturer, it will be expensive... only because it is considered "high end."
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: use the largest fans your case will mount, check out the fans you do put on for noise lvls at their working rpms, generally a larger fan at a lower rpm moving the same amount of air will be quieter.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Just buy an iMac *srun
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. He did say cost wasn't a factor though - so might as well throw the option in
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I usually don't buy my parts from Best Buy but a local computer builder
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wario.. My point was more it is a pretty common thing
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: If you have to have your computer next to your desk, and cost is of no concern, watercooling is the way to go
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Why do you think cars are watercooled and not aircooled ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just replace the fan with one of those spraybottle fans...badda bing, bob's your uncle...watercooling
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is it worth mentioning some cars were air cooled? =p
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some still are
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: LOL yes but not a car built within the last 30 years
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the reason has nothing to do with noise
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair. None I know of personally, but if abe says so, I'll believe it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Yes, but it is more efficient for high performance cars
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm pretty sure there are still fans on radiators
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dalor -- unfort remote mountaing not an option or i would :)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Fans are when the car is stopped.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There are, yeah. But you can mount larger, quieter fans on rads
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod when the car is moving air is forced over it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: hell most ATVs were air cooled for the longest time. then people tripled the cubic engines in them and the heat factor went thru the roof. air cooling works to a point, water cooling isn't all that effective either if you're running in ambient temps over 80F
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: still air cooled
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's an issue with surface area Vorpes, not so much ambient temp
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: But computers mostly run full speed or idle all the time.  They need cooling because they don't move.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Water cooling provides maximum cooling all the time
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need cooling when I do move.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: But it is more expensive
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: what's needed is on die heat pipes to move the insane temps out of the core more effectively.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Heat pipes are useful, but space is a concern.  Then you need fins and surface area.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: fates -- is there a particular brand of fan which is quiter?  i.e. fan blades are thinner or the correct shape, or whatever?  I guess the ideal rig would run w/o case fans, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are very large fans that spin slower
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what is needed is a liquid cooled system where the liquid has variable specific heat capacity
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also Noegel, fans can be temperture controlled so they speed up/slow down/even turn off as needed
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vorpes - i don't rule that out, but before I go that route, I want to build something with the quitest stock specs around
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er, Juic, not noe
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: whatever i just said i think goes against the laws of nature actually
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i guess my nerd in shining armor who can hold my hand through this ain't on.  Pity!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just waterproof your case and fill it with mineral oil
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I understand Daloran... but if noise is a concern, and price not, watercooling is the way to go..  unless you're talking about nitrogen lol
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Watercooling won't be quieter then a passively cooled system, Noe. It's just going to allow more options in terms of cpu/gpu.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: some fan companies spend crazy R&D on fan blade shape, generally it is just a matter of searching thru newegg, tigerdirect, memory express in canada generally have specs for components online.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would say this. larger fan moves more air and spins slower so has a lower frequency sound, less fans = less sound, computers are just fairly noisy
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I guess I turned on this channel in the middle of a chat.  I figured no price/low noise... so I was assuming he/she wanted a maximum silent/medium performance computer
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: problem with liquid cooling is that damn learning curve... a catastrophic failure in a liquid cooled rig generally is *bad*
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is why you should use mineral oil
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: different question.  My GPU is a 9800 GT from nvidia.  The fans spin as if there is a load even if I'm just at a desktop running aard client.  Any ideas wth is going on?  It's a high frequency and annoying sound.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... Reason I haven't played with it myself - I couldn't afford the potential loss of 1k+ in components
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: how much does that help in cases of pinched or kinked tubing?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably a small diameter fan, juic. So has to spin quickly to move any air
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: replace the fans with ice cubes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it is, dalor.  but i wonder why it has to spin at all when presumably it's not under load
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: could be extremely dusty, or your case might just be really hot
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dust can cause this???
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Pinched tubing is a myth.  If you install it right, it won't move.  I don't know how often you guys shake your desktops....
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: well it's an older card maybe it did grow some dust
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Could also be non-temp controlled, or temp sensor borked
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I just cleaned out my cpu heatsink yesterday because the fan was making excessive noise and it stopped doing it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You should be able to manually raise/lower the fan speed via software... but careful of setting it too low to the point it can't dissipate heat
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: Even if it's temp controlled, it could be throttling up due to excess heat from, yep, dust..
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: really mokg??
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: and how often do a newb get things right the first time? air cooling is a we bit more friendly as long as you plug the fan in you won't let out the blue smoke.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so where would the culprist dust be sitting?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yeah, heatsink was caked in dust. had to use compressed air to clean it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: in the fan area
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Wow lol
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: fan/heatsink
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: My rig is super old.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: This convo reminding me I haven't cleaned out my filters in a while
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: the dust could be anywhere.  If you have an intake fan, clean that as well as the GPU fans.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i take it i just have to wipe the fan blades.  how do i clean a heatsink?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: compressed air is the easiest way
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: About the same. I like to get compressed air + vacum, blow from one side, suck from the other
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: LOL Daloran.... I took my filter out for the first time in 6.5 years..
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: well, not anywhere.  Somewhere in the airflow channel.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: It leaked dust just holding it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: where is the heatsink on the gpu in relation to the fan?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Man my house is dirty lol
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: should be right under it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: The heatsink is right under it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: The fan should be offset from the heatsink
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so i don't have to take anything apart?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: You do
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just the side panel
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might be a good idea to hold the fan in place while hitting it with compressed air and such, as well.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i just bought a 144 mhz lcd.  will this increase the load on my gpu vs. 60 hz?  1920 resolution each one.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 144mhz? =p
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: god bless asus
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You sure you don't mean.. 240hz?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: 144 mhz...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i mean 144 hz, i'm dumb, not an idiot
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Juic.. model number of your monitor, plz
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: an asus vg248qe
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Human eyes can't percieve anything above 60-75, i fail to see the point of 144.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: now does that increase the load on the gpu if idle?  I have no idea.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: sure they can
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: huh. 144hz it is. Wierd.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: any who has spent hours playing PC games could tell the difference
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I can see the difference between 60hz and 120hz..
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Regardless - it's not not electrical current. Your GPU will only display what it displays - its not like having a higher refresh rate monitor is going to force it to do more work without changing the settings
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Or between 120 and 600
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't know about 144Hz, but I pretty much only Aard :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not like electrical current, rather
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Look at high end TVs at your local television shop.  It looks unnatural only because it is so smooth.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i think even the 9800 gt with a dvi link can support the 144 hz
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It looks unnatural for entirely different reasons then the refresh rate of the display, Noe
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: my Q is if that increases load and might be why my gpu spins as if under load while at desktop + mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Can you explain why?  I honestly want to know... it freaks me out
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: Most of them look unnatural because of the interpolated field/fake 3D weirdness
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Theres a chance that is true Juic, that card is a tad older.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: noegel, don't see HFR at the theater, you will vomit at worst, have massive headache at best
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Noe.. look up something called 3:2 pulldown.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I will... I just got a new Windows 8 laptop from Windows xp ugh 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: maybe it's dust.  I hate tech mysteries.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tldr though, film speed doesn't divide evenly in to refresh rate of displays, so compromises have to be made
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: 144mhz is a multiple of the 24 fps rate
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vliam ->  english please?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 144mhz is also not a standard TV refresh rate, that I'm aware of anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I cant find anything
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: this ain't a TV, it's an lcd monitor
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: no, of course not.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Different convo, Juic. Was about the smoothness of movies and such
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: 144mhz TV would be silly
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: tech An lcd is an lcd.. but it's capabilities will be different
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I don't have any compressed air.  How else can I clean the heatsink on this gpu?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's been a while, but my understanding of the odd visuals have to do with how the different brands handle the change in that 24fps -> Refresh rate of the display. Sony calls theres Motionflow, don't remember the other trade names
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and the HFR cinema is still less than a standard 60 Hz frame rate
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: maybe it's just dirty.  The pc was in a room where steampipe water flooded, so the anti corrosion additives might have evaporated onto the heatsink.  The case is pretty open.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'm not sure if any video card will support the 144mhz rate.  That's probably the limiting factor.  *shrug* 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: some nvidia cards will
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: An open case will always be susceptible to damage.  
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also bad for cooling
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dalor why is an open case bad for cooling?  shouldn't it help the heat dissipate better?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: You need airflow.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: There's no airflow
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but it dusrupts the well-designed air flow that is part of a good case design
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, it lets the air that the fan just sucked in to go out the side hole before it goes over the hot bits of the computer
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: It's like running a marathon and going into a closet.  Compared to running a marathon and going into a strong breeze.  Which would you want
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how can i tell if I've installed a case fan to pull air in vs. push air out?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put your hand in front of it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which side gives you a breeze?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What he said. Also, often times there are arrows on the shroud
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, there's usually 90 degree arrows, showing blade direction and airflow direction
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Cant beat the hand method in the end
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ideally you'd have fans covering both directions, and have the airflow channeled from intake across hot components before exhaust
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when set up that way, neither fan has to be working as hard, as it's kind of like drafting bicycles
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the side of my tower has cut outs for two fans.  One on top of the other.  Should they both be pulling air in, or 1 pulling in 1 pushing out?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: is it more important to pull air in than push air out?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on where they are in relation to the components
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: Often, you'll have an intake mounted to the front. And out flowing fan in the back.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: They should either be pulling air out or both in
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, in general you want to have more intake then exhaust... you want your case to be under slight positive pressure if you can
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want the one closest to the components to be sucking in, and the one furthest from them to be blowing out
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: You should put them on the same slot, facing each other. They need to fight. The added energy use will make your computer faster.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: If they are doing different things, then it is a failure
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: If they are doing different things, then it is a failurerp
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its what I do quad. survival of the fittest. the better component lives, the other dies
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Juic.. if it helps you in anyway... most video cards i've seen intake air from the fan, and exhaust it out the back of the case - so the side intakes tend to blow cold air at the top of the video card, that it will suck from and blow it out the rear
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: this gpu just has a small fan on top of the heat sink.  I imagine it's taking in air to blow on the heat sink?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but if you look at the back of it, where the video ports are - is there vents there?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: weird.  just noticed my psu fans aren't spinning.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Usually the heat sink is in a plastic shroud - and the fan is at one end. IT takes the air inside the case, pushes it through the heatsink/shroud, and out the back where those vents are
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that could be part of why your vid card is spinning faster
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i was smelling burnt plasticy smell.  maybe it's the psu.  couldn't tell wtf that was coming from
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Either dead fan, or temp/load controlled fan so its slowed down
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the psu has two fans... one on each surface.. the back and in the csae.  neither are spinning.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: that's probably not good
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I guess I'll load something and see if they spin.  I wonder if this steam/flood screwed everything up.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: sometimes the inside fan is hard to determine whether it's running.  The back, though, that should be pretty obvious.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: wow they are dead.  crazy.  maybe that's why the gpu spins while not under load.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i have a transparent side to the tower, it's not spinning
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: also has an LED inside the psu so i can see quite clearly
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: You may have heat backing up into the case.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: also maybe why I've been smelling burnt plastic
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, the gpu is temp sensing hot, so it's trying to do the work of the psu fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: well, yeah.  Definitely that.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: not sure where it's coming from though
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: gpu?  psu?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: also will it kill me
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course the gpu can't bring in fresh air, so it can't catch up
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i took out the case fans b/c they were too loud, so the gpu really has no active air flow over it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I doubt you'll die but you're computer might.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i can't tell if the cpu is spinning more.  the gpu drowns it out.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'd avoid putting any more strain on it than necessary.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so, any way to fix this PSU fan???
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: some of them are standard 80mm fans and you can replace them.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first I'd stick case fans back in
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: generally PSUs are treated as nonservicable parts due to the shock risks working in them.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or step up your timeframe for the computer that started this whole thread and don't worry about the one you're using now ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so this thing is junked unless i can make up for the lost air flow... is that psu fan blowing into/out of the case (inside the case) for the benefit of the psu or the other components?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: both of them should blow backward.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i'm talking the fan inside the psu
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: psu fan is usually blowing out for the psu's sake...but in either direction, a blow in or a blow out, it'll cause some fresh air to be sucked in because of pressure differential
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: the front psu fan blows from the case into the psu.  The rear one blows from the psu to the back of the case.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how badly do psus need their fans?  I mean I really don't my computer to actually catch fire or blow up from a hot psu.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a case fan should get you running halfway decent
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't catch fire, but a component could fail
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i also don't want to die from breathing in these fumes of whatever smells like plastic
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: yeah.  It's unlikely to catch fire unless it's crammed with dust or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: one more question
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: tower case.  gpu mounts from the back from connectors which are like 6 inches off the ground
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: teh fan faces DOWN
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: there is no fan in the lower back of the case
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: to exhaust
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: that's normal
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: there is a place for a case fan on the side of the case
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so right now the gpu fan blows air down.  When i put this case fan back in, should it blow air out or blow air in?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the GPU won't know what orientation your PCIe slots are in or where your case has its fans...all it knows is that the ports are in the back and it wants to get the heat away from the GPU
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the case fan is on the bottom of the side of the case, so a straight line would be perpendicular to the line coming from the gpu fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'd have it blow in.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: should this case fan blow our or in?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, either direction would be such an improvement over today, just because fresh air will be getting sucked in (actively if in, passively if out) and warm air will be pushed out (reverse)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: but then there is a second case fan opening above... whicih would be on the same line as the fan on the mobo (which mounts vertically!)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'd set them both to blow in if you have a large (120mm) fan in the back.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: and i thought both shold blow in or out, so maybe both should blow out, but then there's no real intake
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have case fans for opposite sides ofthe case (front/back, top/bottom or left/right), have them blowing with one in and one out, so they're basically making the airflow always be a pretty straight wind
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: ther eis a fan in the back, not sure how big or which dir it blows
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have case fans on the same side as each other, then they should be blowing the same direction as each other, so they make a "harder" blow/suck
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: these case fans are on the left side, no fans on the right side (the motherboard mounts vertically covers the right side anyway)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: Is the back fan larger than those side fans?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, so I'd have those blow in, as they're then blowing directly onto the mobo (and somewhere on the mobo is the CPU)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i have to dig out those side fans.  took them out ages ago.  let me check.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: but abe the mobo has a fan, which i assume blows out, so wouldn't they be fighting?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that rear fan still installed and working?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use your hand to determine whether that's in or out
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's likely exhaust
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mobo has a fan, or the CPU has a fan which is attached to the mobo by way of CPU socket
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i think it blows out.  i feel warm air
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the mobo has a fan, which would blow right into the top case fan on the side
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: how do you access the help that shows portal command for mushclient pls?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: crap i only have 1 fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one's better than zero :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: 2 slots on the side of the case, but only 1 fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: where do i put it??!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: just check my tower.  My CPU fan blows down at the heatsink.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'd put it over the CPU since that's normally where side mounted fans are pointed.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: really, just mount it in either spot, you'll be in better shape than you are now...you can do some load tests, see how it feels/sounds...flip it around and see if it's better/worse
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: ah, that makes a lot of sense vliam
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: and cover the other hole.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i assumed the cpu mounted fans blew OUT
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you definitely don't want a hole next to the fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can go either way
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: but I guess if you have sensible air flow, it should blow in to cool it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: oh really, either way?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so i should check
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: put your finger in it.  If it cuts you, it's blowing down.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean they can be designed to go either way...CPU heatsink-and-fan module is usually designed to work a particular way, but just a cpu fan that plops on can be different
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: kidding.  kinda.  Not really.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i can probably cannibalize a fan off another pc
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: if it's blowing up, your finger will hit the trailing edges of the blades.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I find the best way to test if a fan is blowing a certain direction is to place a tissue on it.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Less blood on your parts that way
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: yeah, that might be safer.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or, you know, build the pc yourself so you know what's what, and don't get one like my friend did which had 3 case fans all blowing in :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: yeah.  That's not right.  All of the outflow has to go through the PSU or various cracks.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: That's a bit restrictive.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: good tip on the tissue
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just make sure there is a guard on the fan, unless you want to be can 'o' airing your pc for your new pile of confetti :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And as for the 3 fans pointing inwards, the sweatshop worker who built the thing just put in the exhaust fan backwards - just one of HP's dubious 'design choices' in that particular machine
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so we've got a small intake fan in the front, a vertically on the right of the case blowing air INTO the case, a rear exhaust fan in the back, a PSU fan facing down into the case which is broken, a GPU card mounted horiztonally 6 inches off the group with a fan facing the case floor, not sure which way is blowing
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sorry, PSU fan pointing INTO the case?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vertically *mountaed motherboard
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The GPU fan will be an intake, blowing onto the card
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vakieh, the psu fan is on the bottom of the unit, inside the case, facing into the case, but is broken
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: not sure which dir that would normally be blowing
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is it just a fan pulled off a PSU, or is it actually attached to a PSU at this time?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it's a fan inside the psu
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: replace it if the fan is broken, fire hazard
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That should have a dedicated vent, it is quite possibly the hottest by volume component you have
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: normally, that inner PSU fan should be blowing up.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the psu unit has a vent in the back of the case going out, but the only fan i see is the one inside the case, pointing down into the case, which is broken
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Possibly a dumb question, but was the PSU mounted backwards? All the units I've seen should have their exhaust vent lined up with that fan, blowing out
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vak, i can smell something plasticky burning, any idea which component that would be from?  My gpu is spinning as if under load even at just desktop...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I thought that was always the guy's issue and never the chick's
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why is this unit switched on if you smell burning?!!?!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: because it's a slight smell?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: well, it's not dead yet.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ANYTHING burning or melting is extremely bad.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: yes, well if it's the gpu maybe i can fix with a side case fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if it's the psu.. .not sure what to do about a broken fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I have a spare psu on another broken rig.  can i just swap it out?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: possibly.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What voltage? Also, please find what is melting o.0 Preferably when the unit is not live
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The CPU and GPU should have heat cutoffs, so it probably isn't them... a melting PSU is bad news, of course
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's not a many-years-old rig, it's likely an ATX which can be swapped no prob
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: If it's enough voltage and have the right connectors, swapping should be possible.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whoops, I said voltage, meant wattage
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moruul Tech: usually burning smells is the psu
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: yeah, wattage.  not paying attention.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: One other possible problem is the physical size of the PSU.  Some of the manufacturers use custom sized compact PSUs that don't fit in anything else.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what is an atx?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the follower of the AT standard of computer power supplies
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do i check the wattage?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Form factor for a mobo, among other things
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: it's a standard.  But, it's not exactly standard anymore.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current power supplies will normally be ATX or mini-ATX
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: okay, i'm shutting down be back on my phone.  getting freaked out.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tbh I am not overly comfortable recommending you work with electricals at all - is there somebody you can call?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Remember this stuff can kill you
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I don't think any capacitor carries enough of a charge to kill.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: back
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: not in a PSU.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: There's only one real way to be sure.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: im sure atx of some li.d
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: shouldnt be hard to just swap it out?  gotta ibstall onr when making a new rig anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so weird the fan just stopped spinning
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be cake...just the power cables to each of your drives (hdd, optical, floppy) and a couple to mobo
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well you did say that it was basically misted...that could've shorted the power to the fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what dods tbh meN
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: To be honest.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: yes mizted while it wad on too if that matters
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: do i need a minum wattage to safely power my mobo and gpu?  both are years old
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, [mostly clean] water isn't a danger to electronics when they're not powered, but when they're on it can have unpredictable results
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: any strong opinions on good ssd?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: or bad
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: samsung seems to be fairly solid in reviews
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: can i rub tp across ny gpu board to clean the dust
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: to whoever asked earlier psu rated at 500
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: rocketfish
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: hard to clean gpu when its mounted horiz four inches above ground and heat ssink and fan poibt to the ground
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do i take the fan off cpu heat sink to clean it?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: prybar
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran slaps The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: also why does my cpu fan blow out while vak says gpu fan would blow in
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: why does my cpu fan have arrows on it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to show which direction the blades spin and which direction the air goes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: All heat sinks have a direction they are designed for.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Some work in either, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: one arrow points into the sink but the fan blows out from the sink...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure the power cord of the cpu fan is connected in the right direction...could be a polarity thing
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Usually sinks only have one drain =p
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: From what I have heard, sounds like whoever assembled your chassis didn't know what he was doing.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd rip it all out, read manuals, and put it back according to instructions.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: bought off newegg yrs ago
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not his new rig, it's a rig which he has removed a couple case fans from and is now putting stuff back into...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do i clean the caked dust off sink from under mounted fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: walmart and get compressed air
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or unmount the fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can always fake compressed air by picking up the whole computer, going outside and pretending that you're blowing out birthday candles...prepare to cough for a while tho :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and without using a straw, you still won't get under stuff as well as a can of air
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I should buy a bellows.  It's the classy way to clean out the dust!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a shop vac in blower mode with a reducing hose works as well
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do i unmount the fan.  soubds ez enough?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the fan assembly...screws or rubber mounts
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the cpu and gpu fans both blow in.  i was wrong.  from tge outside it was pushing air out. aybe preasure difference
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the cpu almost shredded my toilet paper
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, if the fins are sharp that can happen
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: wait. you're trying to take it off while it's running? ... uh... bad.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i just turned it on to test the fan flow with case open
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if its unplugged can o safely use hands to release the plastic things mountimg the fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: when i wana go into testport it says error
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what says error, and what kind of error does it say?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: well it just said error connecting to server
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you have listed for the server address?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: aardmud.net?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the port?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: hmm, my client only asks the address tho it worked for me in the past 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it only says the address, then use aardmud.net:6555
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or aardmud.net 6555
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: ok back on the desktop
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: put that fan in, blowing in
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: thank you all for your help
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if i want to buy case fans where I can control the speed... do I need special fans or just a fan controller?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: if you want to control the fan speeds, you'll need something mechanical to do it if they aren't connected to the motherboard.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: you can get fans with a speed control or something more advanced like this, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992007
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: It's usually called a fan controller or a rheostat
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: a rheostat or petentiometer is essentially just a knob control to increase resistance (and slow down the fan)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: does lua have shorthand for i = i+1, i++ does not seem to work
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: apparently, lua doesn't have an increment operator
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: docs say that for loops auto-increment +1 if not specified othewise
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hmm will try with a while look
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: loop*
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ++ does not exist in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: nothing similiar either I take it?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's entirely unnecessary
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: well, it's not necessary in any language...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: it is just nice shorthand
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone feel like looking at an easy C program and telling me why it adds up quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies up to 500mil/
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because its a lot of quarters?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why it does, or why it does not?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: post a pastebin
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 1 penny 2 nickels 3 dimes 4 quarters is not 500mil
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: http://pastebin.com/me4pswAJ
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, that kind of why not.  You're either doing math wrong or perhaps a number you thought was a numeric datatype is really a string datatype and your + is maybe doubling as a concatenation operation.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i dunno i have checked just about everything
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: What inputs are you giving it?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 1 2 3 4
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if i do just 1 0 0 0  the number actually gets bigger
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: brb. thanks for looking also
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well is there any possiblity that something is stuck in memory?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Well. One thing to be aware of is that arithmetic operators give a result of the same type as their operands.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: hrmmm... your dollar function returns bills but you don't seem to be assigning that to anything...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: bills is assigned in dollars function
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Which, in english, means that (int) + (int) will give you an int. Dividing that by an int (100) will give you an int. Assigning that to a float will discard any fractional part of the result.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so your saying coerce the int values to float before addition?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I haven't tried it, but I would. If it's not the problem you're facing now, it's a problem you will face.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: ahh. bills is global
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Either use global variables, or send them as parameters and return values. Also, don't use global variables.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: what Ranrr said.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: And what he said, yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: another thing that strikes me right now is my puts("") aren't showing up i just get the insert prompt
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: that's why I missed bills when I scanned the code.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gotta love a book that tells you to do something and then you find out it is wrong
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you aren't initializing any of your variables
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no book would tell you to program like that
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also your comments are really stupid
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't comment a function call with "this is a function call"
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i think it is dumb too but i have lots points on some assignments already for not commenting everything
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: commenting stupidly should make you lose more points
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fiendish, a lot of (bad) programming books teach comments like that, for 'clarity' - better to explain why that is bad, and what should be commented instead
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And a lot of teachers who see those books as gospel teach the same, unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In short, comments should add something to the code, from the perspective of someone who already knows the language
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: A comment in any sort of code, should be an explanation of what is going on in the next section of code.  That is, it should give you a method of explaining what is going on and that you understand.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I prefer the linus torvalds way, if you need to comment your code, it needs to be rewritten in a simpler way.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: linus is wrong. vakieh is right.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Linus is a non-profit coder by trade and by habit - his ideas are rarely workable in the real world
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: so instead of "this is a function call" you would want to comment "calling function X, to perform action Y"
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: comments should save the next programmer time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, linux and git are not used in the real world?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not saying his ideas are wrong, they are simply an ideallistic approach which simply cannot function the way most projects are handled
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, I write comments myself, but I am not as good a coder as linus.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It is a good thing to strive for, and I think that was the point. 
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The pursuit of perfection is the greatest obstacle on the way to good.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: comments are the programmer's way of remembering things that got done months ago.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, all code I write can be modified by someone else a few months or years later. Working in a team, where everyone updates all code when needed makes you write better code (and better comments).
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Especially if your co-workers mock you if your code is ugly :D
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok had to hand that crap in. now i would like to write it correctly. first off someone told me i can't return more than one value from a function
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that is true, but you can pass in pointers in C
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i don't know what pointers are yet
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then ignore the second part of my answer
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: at any rate...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: Are you not getting a warning for the remove function?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yup i am. not sure why though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: your name is overriding a stdio function
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: you should rename those
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: removecoins or whatever
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As for the pastebin in question, take a look at the function 'insert'. It has a comment //insert function - anyone who knows C, or really any language at all, knows that before seeing the comment, and it is therefore superfluous. The only thing a programmer should be writing (ideally) is what is required.  Instead of //insert function, perhaps try // Adds the given parameters to the pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters variables (please note the function in question is not really a valid way of doing anything, but if it was, that would be the comment I would leave)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also the comment should be on the function itself
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not the call to it every single time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, is that reproduced? Just looked for headers myself :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wow my teacher explicitly says 'function remove (int p, int n, int d, int q) will subtract pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters'
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: noted on the comments.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: On a function, I always comment the input, return values and any side effects. 
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: /me shakes head
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's a style issue, mostly.  I was taught to leave a comment on both sides of the routine call, the first one (at the calling point) gives a very brief summary and any site-specific explanation on why to call it, the one in the function goes into all the details involved in the function internals.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hanslanda, you might be thinking dec/def? This is actual calls in client code
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Function internals is what the code is for, not the comment (imho).
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so no globals (why are globals frowned on), utilitarian commenting, single return value
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I was referring to comments
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: vorpes: namespace
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My usual style is to comment public methods in the declaration, private methods in the definition
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: globals are frowned upon because they pollute the namespace
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: two functions can accidentally use the same variable name and then you're sol
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Plus they cause similar non-determinate errors as goto
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: side effects should be avoided if possible
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ahh that makes sense
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Things get VERY hairy if you start working with exceptional states with global variables - how do you know if the preceding code finished working with the value or not? A lot of unnecessary overhead
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wow so removing remove cleared up a good part of the problem. (besides the fact i am doing it wrong), now to figure out the return part
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can gain insight by "drawing" the connections in your program.  Ideally, you want to have just one input point and one output point.  If your code gets too spaghetti-fied, the graphics will make it more obvious than flipping through less-meaningful text.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I admit I am curious as to the returning multiple values... haven't worked in raw C for a while, but afaik that will evaluate the first 3 terms, then return the 4th, and the first 3 are discarded?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tharnin nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You might need to look into working with a struct 'coins', with coins.dimes, coins.pennies etc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you knew pointers, you would use a pointer to a struct. Since you don't, you can stay with globals for now, imho.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A global struct would be my advice at this point
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: C++ makes this slightly cleaner with reference passing
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i still need to get the values back from the functions after i add the user input
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vorpes: the point of passing in a pointer is that the object it points to exists outside the function's scope
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so it's aaaaalmost like a global in that sense, but not quite
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is referable by the function but still inside the main?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sort of like the girl that gets around to all the guys in the friends group?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wherever you instantiate the object the pointer points to, whether that is in main or elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Returning a struct wouldn't work in C? (I should know better. My excuse is that I've been doing C++ for the past 7 years and haven't done C in too long.)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: An analogy I like: Bill has a brown cow. He needs the cow dyed black for a party, but only Bob has black dye. He passes the cow to Bob. Bob sprays the cow black, and gives it back to Bill. If Bill had just shown Bob the cow, then Bob's cow would still be brown. What you are doing now is showing Bob the cow, pointers is how you GIVE Bob the cow.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Not as well as pointers, I dig that, but it beats globals if it works, imo.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can return a struct
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he probably hasn't learned structs
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Point.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also eww object memory copying
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Might this work better if the methods were generalised and called 4 times? What are the requirements?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tharnin smirks at The Jerk Fiendish's saying.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nope i know variables. loops, and that is about it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And yes, death to the shallow copy :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just wait until errorchecking...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so pointers are just variables with * appended?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Shallow copy of a four int struct vs. globals... I'm not championing the struct thing in general, but BIGGER death to globals.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not quite
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nononononono
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Leave them for now :-) They require a little more depth of knowledge as to how the computer works its magic behind the scenes, and they are infamous for being easy to get wrong
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a pointer is a special integer whose value is a location in memory
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Aye. I'm derailing, sorry.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and the difference between a pointer and a variable is the pointer is a specific number at a specific location?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can directly change the pointer value, which changes the memory location it points to like moving its finger, or you can follow its finger to the thing it is pointing to that resides at that memory location (called dereferencing) and change that thing
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the difference between a pointer and another kind of variable is that pointers have a very specific semantic meaning
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A memory address is where the computer stores data. A variable is something inside (or at) a memory address, and a pointer is a record of a particular memory address.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A pointer 'points to' a variable
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that makes a fair bit of sense
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only it's terribly inaccurate
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: damn it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't point to a variable, it points to an object that may or may not be referenced by any other variable
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: here's how memory and variables work...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: oh lawd... It's Miller time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your computer has a list of regular variables. each of those regular variables are, BEHIND THE SCENES, given translations between the name you named them and the location they are stored. So your variable "dollars" is in memory address 400 or whatever. Pointers are no different than this. If you made a pointer called dollarspointer, it too would behind the scenes be given a translation between its name and the location it is stored. The difference is that value stored at dollars's location could be 5 or whatever dollar amount you want. And the value stored at the dollarspointer's location would be 400.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Gonna publish that book Fiendish =P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish squeals with Delight as Fatal FrostBite Sniggles him!
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: K&R already did.  Couple years ago   ;p
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto smirks.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: imo statements ->variables->conditionals->loops-> 'In-depth pointers and computer memory' is a silly path to learn. Yes, pointers might be null, or point to 0, and can be referenced as themselves, or dereferenced, and themselves have may be pointed to, etc - but at this point the information would be irrelevant and confusing.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Not an Imm Erikson.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so the pointer points  to the specific location in memory. and you can then assign a variable to start there and reference it via the pointer?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a variable is essentially the name given to a pointer.  The pointer is the "map" to the data, and the data is the real-world info that changes, disappears, gets overwritten, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the pointer has as its value a location in memory. we differentiate this from other kinds of value storage and call this specifically pointing because the language provides us ways of bouncing over to the other value at the location in memory that the pointer has stored as its value.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: pointers, as learned about in lessons, are kinda like just another variable, except that their data happens to be the memory location.  You perhaps learned about scope already, so basically pointers are a way to set a value for a non-local variable directly without having to do a separate assignment of your local variable to your global/public variable declared earlier in the scope tree.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so what happens if the pointer points to the middle of a value?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or, perhaps more accurately, not having to return a value.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in C, there's basically no errorchecking, so you'll just get garbage data as your reference reads past the allotted space.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or you'll crash
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Even worse, Vakieh, is when you only learn languages like java, and never learn to do memory management and pointers. Every coder needs to know this.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't agree
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you learn Java but don't learn how the garbage collector does its business, you never really learned Java :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think learning how to manage references is far more important than learning how to use pointers
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: C doesn't even have pass by reference
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Every language sucks in some way.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also garbage collectors exist so that you don't have to learn how they work
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and it's not like they're all that perfect to begin with...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, garbage collectors exist so you don't have to do the work at the time - you absolutely should know what they are doing
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Once you know what a garbage collector is doing and why, THEN you can black box it and let it work its magic
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Every coder should write his own memory manager at least once, imho.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: eww
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, you shouldn't. you should trust that they work and go about your business and deal with any very rare garbage collection latency issue if you ever come across it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because it will be very rare and you'll probably never have to worry about it ever
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and any time spent learning about it prematurely will be a huge waste
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: except academically
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or when you test or debug software.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But Mr Fiendish, my code leaves this massive collection referenced in main because I used it there at some point, and now my little utility program is using a bazillion RAMs! What do?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is so much knowledge behind why a GC is needed that you just won't get any other way if you are using a managed language
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: anyone trying for one of the Google Glass giveaways?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not a giveaway
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you have to pay $1500
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Pocket change :)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fiendish, thats "shipping and handling" ?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: compared to what they're likely to go for when mass production kicks in, that's probably a huge steal.  Well, other than having to write a winner of an essay.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, that's the price of buying a set of glasses. just because you have to do a song and dance to convince them to sell you one doesn't mean they aren't still selling it to you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For $1500 S&H I'm going to need it delivered on a freshly powdered Victoria's Secret model's backside...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they will not be $1500 retail.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: especially not after they stop sucking
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I live in Au... if we get them for <$1500 I will eat my hat.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you got them for <$1000 would you use the money you saved to buy food instead of eating your hat?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lol, computer fans have internet access now?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Little do you know... http://bit.ly/Yngv6X
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They have the internet on computers now?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, it is just this series of tubes, I expect they get it from the water mains
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I thought the internet was more like a dump truck?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaginary Wissie Tech: quick! they're full! dump them!
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I guess Al Gore wouldn't invent something similar to a dump truck.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: more like rush hour now, Dal.  Soon, hackers are gonna be able to hijack the on/off button.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hackers can turn your computer in to a bomb
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: so if i want to upgrade my after-freeze character's version of aardmush, theres' instructions how to do that on aardpage?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: cause i notice this one i'm using now has a bug like when i run to an area it'll show bigmap on first room, but otherwise it seems cleaner
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i got this running in different directorythan other one
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: final question
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: my oldish 9800 gt has an hdmi port, a dvi port, and a vga port
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: but it will only recognize 2
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: just curious cause i spent like, probably 30 hours in all doing all my custom exits and portal's and stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no way to see 3 monitors?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nvidia cards in general only support 2 displays, despite the number of ports.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: lame
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so if I throw an even more ancient video card in there, can that run my third display?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can stick in a crappy 2nd card to get the 3rd monitor up - processing will be shared
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shrug. Card can't really drive that many displays with that much power anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what do you mean processing will be shared
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod Ju. depends on what you want it for though.. gaming? Desktop usage?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Meaning the gfx will be processed as a whole, rather than having 2 nice monitors and 1 crappy one based on the cards
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak.. it doesn't work that way.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You will need more wattage than usual to power 2 cards though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Read what I wrote Daloran, I never said it did :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: pure desktop usage
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: only want gaming on 1 of the monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You said processing will be shared, meaning its processed as a whole, rather then having 2 nice monitors and 1 crappy one - you didn't just say that? =p
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right, and it will be. The processing will be done for all 3 monitors by both cards, rather than having each monitor tied to a certain card
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then yeah, you'll be fine adding another video card, or using onboard, if your motherboard has it and will allow you to use it in conjunction with your dedicated gpu
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: should it just be plug and play?  throw a second card in, update drivers, assign third screen to it and voila?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vakieh.. It doesn't work that way unless you are using crossfire / SLI setups, which are not something you can do with any random pair of cards
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: seems like to share there needs to be a protocol, can't just expect 2 random cards to work well together
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod Jui. In Vista/7 its ezpz, in xp its ez.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i shouldn't expect to do anything funky with getting the mobo to recognize this other card?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: pretty much does. Your two cards may have incompatabilities. If you have only 1 pci-ex slot you can't use 2 pci-ex cards, also.. but if you have the slots for it, and the power, its basically just plug and play, install the drivers, and you're golden
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what if 1 is pci-e and the other is pci?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shouldn't need to.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So long as you have a port for the card, you should be good.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do i know if i have the power?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: my gimped psu w/o a fan
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You said you had an 850 watt psu?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, same way to make sure power for anything else.. tally up the total draw of all the devices in your system, and compare to your PSUs rated output, with a little bit of fudge factor, 20% or so
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no, 500 base watt
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: its too dark to see in my case, is there a way to see in windows whether i have pci or pci-e slots?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhh yeah, that'd be a little iffy running 2 cards.. depends on what they are
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Easiest way would be to look up the model number of your PC. or to just pop the cover off the side
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it's been so long i can't tell if those are pci or pci-e
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: pci are usually white
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: well its either white or yellow or grey
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ju.. is it different then the slot your video card is it? or the same =p
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i can't tell
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: but, if you are talking about a video card, you might have an AGP also
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PCI-e slots usually also have a tab that hangs off the back edge of the slot, pci usually doesn't
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: AGP will have a similar tab too
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: is it better or no difference to run a second monitor via hdmi vs. vga if the primary one is dvi?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not relevant which the first monitor is. HDMI/DVI are your better choices though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what's the difference vs. using the vga cable/ports instead of hdmi
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: VGA is analog, HDMI is digital. DVI can be either. HDMI carries sound, the other two do not
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: hdmi is digital.  That's the better route for LCD monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: what daloran said
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: DVI and HDMI are actually electrically identical, for digital video, so between the two it doesn't reallym atter
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: still not sure what makes hdmi better but I'll take your word for it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You might leave the DVI for connecting a TV to - so you can just select the output device in software, instead of plugging/replugging.. but thats about the onl benefit to leaving it alone
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: HDMI also has sound, DRM and weird licenses
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: HDMI/DVI no difference. HDMI/VGA .. HDMI is digital. so computer says 1, monitor displays 1. Analog, computer says 1, monitor might interpet that as .997 or 1.003 depending on resistance in the cables, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: with VGA you have to convert from digital to analog and back to digital.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: HDMI supports DRM/wierd licenses. Doesn't require them. And if you mean HDCP, DVI supports that as well.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: unecessary conversion is bad
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In practice though HDMI(only first because sound) > DVI > VGA, other then that, use whatever you have the inputs/outputs/cables to support.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: plus, analog is more suseptible to external interference from magnetic fields or other noise.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: awesome, thanks a lot for the help
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anytime.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: going to bed, maybe i'll throw in this ancient vid card tmrw.  if it still works
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: night
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no wait last one
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: hdmi to hdmi vs. hdmi to dvi... any difference?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i have two different cords
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: DVI has no sound
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: gotcha, ok!
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: otherwise, no
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I prefer DVI cables due to having screws on them so they don't come unplugged as easily.... but that's a small thing
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Can triggers match a blank line somehow?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there a way to do something like Note() but preserve the original colors?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ColourNote?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Though I don't think that'll preserve colors - I think you need to build your own lines with ColourTell?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Been a while since I played w/MUSH, though, so I could be totally off
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: you're right -- doesn't keep it :-\
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I have a form which POSTs something to a script. The script is executing, since a simple echo statement defined there prints the value of a variable.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But the $_POST array seems to be empty. What am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I think I have it :/
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Can I not use <input id="x">? Must I use <input name="x">?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Hmmm, for some odd reason my mushclient is screwing up. Has there been a new update?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: damn
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: someone just unplugged a rack in our dc....
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: this cant be happening
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: for some reason each time i type who i get discconected from the mud...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: pagesize
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: noye list will likely do the samething to you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: note list will likely do the samething to you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: nope?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: do you pagesize?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: i just turned it back on now
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: set at 100 and worked
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: said nope to note list btw sorry
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so your problem is gone?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I use winkles spellup script and it does that to me.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Why would certain (monospaced) fonts not show up in mushclient's selection list?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I am missing 'dejavu sans mono', for example, despite it being installed
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: noticed a strange thing happening in hedgehod that i can't seem to have happen anywhere else
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i use the aardclient and have the mapper echo in main window as well as the mini window
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: in the northeastern room on the first part of the area, it's showing the mapper 3 times
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nowhere else it does that
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or, i should say, i shows the mapper the first time, then it echos the mapper two more times all in the main window
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if i turn the echoing off, i get two carriage returns
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Looks normal with tintin++, must be a mush issue.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, not must, but... that seems likely.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i didn't think this was an aard issue
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if i kill all of the mobs, i don't get the same problem
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: quite strange
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: scars, it is because two of the mobs matched the trigger "* opens*." from aard_ascii_map, and that trigger sends the map command
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: except when they've been killed, of course
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Scars, petition for a way to get the ascii map over gmcp and that can stop
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lasher said the map won't be added to gmcp
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: when did he say that?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: something about different clients handling line breaks differently
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: when it was first added
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't need line breaks
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gmcp already sends line breaks anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see all the multi-line socials
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I would think the map info would be too spammy for gmcp, similar to why room descs aren't sent.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, forgot about that
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud displays them all on one line, so there you go
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: does it? that's stupid of cmud
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: actually, i don't even know if you can store a carriage return in a variable at all in cmud... hans might?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't need to
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: store a null character
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are a whole set of characters that aardwolf doesn't use
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i probably could do some parsing trick on the raw gmcp data to get it to display on multiple lines, i just can't be bothered
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: those socials aren't used much anyway, it's not a huge issue for me
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I do actually do some kind of trick somewhere in the communication log, but it works
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: gonna need to experiment with this now :P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh actually I do have a newline hack, but I don't think it's at all related to the gmcp
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think it's just for display
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because the miniwindow text function turns them into blocks
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they just come through as \n in the gmcp string
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: this is aard_channels_fiendish.xml?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can search for the word "newline"
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, yeah, that's right
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud does display the \n's
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i could probably just sub them and it would work... but i'd need to play with spacing too, cause of my timestamps...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure what happens with the timestamps for me...gonna see on test port
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: HP is making an $169 Andriod Tablet. lol
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Last time they tried to make a tablet, they almost dropped out of the PC game altogether.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They made it with Palm OS
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: HP is a bucket of fail
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eutychus is agreeing with that Vliam person again...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: they need to stick to selling overpriced ink and toner
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: anyone know why .+ doesn't match across lines for multiline triggers?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: multiline triggers are tricky things. I never use them
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I'm trying to figure out how to determine the end of combat :\
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gmcp
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: interesting... will check it out, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there a 1-liner I can try to request char.stats using GMCP?  I can't seem to find a simple way to do this
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: request from the server or get in a variable?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Just print it (save in a variable is nice too I guess)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sort of
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not one line
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you know there's a page on the aard wiki about this
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: It doesn't seem to explain how to do it.  It explains a lot of the GMCP functions, but not the highlevel function to call them. I'll try to read closer.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's a page specifically about using mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Ah I found that section!  Shucks the helpers may be lua-specific
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Thanks for your help fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I am still very suprised there is no easy way to capture full-color output into a script.  Seems like there is a VERY roundabout way of capturing it and reprinting it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You can turn rawcolors on, get the stuff, and turn it off. ;P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: haha yikes :P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can use the styles table, it's not the easiest thing in the world to work with though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to The Reaper Myrkul.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: i cant get the help file to work. what is the character that allows variables to be used? ex. 'say fl' = say darkside of the fractured lands
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917607
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient helpfile is also available online at http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can ask again after you get the help file working
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does anyone know of a technology that will entirely block wifi band waves from a wireless access point?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and on a similar note, has anyone seen or heard of a device, or know enough about the technology to suggest a device that plugs into an electric socket and scramble all network over powerline data in the immediate vicinity
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Faraday shell
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: electric socket blocks may scramble the neighbours reception
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the FTC going to like or permit that though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the FTC should have been regulating transmission over powerline to prevent it breaching your home boundary anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The FCC has banned RF jammers since 1930s.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: talking about powerline network, Turie
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not RF
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i heard that in prior years, the electronic emf soup in London was so thick, that the health of some humans was adversely affected
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it is still postulated, though it appears to fluctuate from person to person
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only if the person has some sort of digital pacemaker susceptible to RF exposure
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which it shouldn't be
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not the only person, some people living close to mobile phone masts complain of headaches, sleeping disorders
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: those people are called idiots
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they would probably think the same of you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's too bad for them that this has been shown repeatedly to be hypochondria
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: being too close to a transamission tower is said to cause sterility
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: citation
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for which
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tiger: Zade said it. just now. =p
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shown repeatedly to be hypochonria
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that is how microwaves for cooking were discovered -- wam melted chocolate in a technicians pocket
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: is it true you can rig a microwave to create an explosion for 300 yards
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a lot further if you actually put explosives in it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: warm melted chocolate when a military technician stood near some transmission equipment
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, put a lot of Sdynamite inside it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: dynamite *
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: SDynamite? I don't use anything less then SSDynamite, I prefer SSS Dynamite though...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can also cook an egg in a microwave.  Best not to do it, though, unless you want steaming-hot egg on your face (and bits of hard-boiled egg all over your kitchen)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: microwaved eggs aren't half bad, hans
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Sleep, EEG and waking rCBF have been studied in relation to RF exposure for a decade now, and the majority of papers published to date have found some form of effect. While a Finnish study failed to find any effect on sleep or other cognitive function from pulsed RF exposure,[51] most other papers have found significant effects on sleep
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "Do mobile phone base stations affect sleep of residents? Results from an experimental double-blind sham-controlled field study" from American Journal of Human Biology   Analysis of the subjective and objective sleep data did not reveal any significant differences between the real and sham condition. During sham exposure nights, objective and subjective sleep efficiency, wake after sleep onset, and subjective sleep latency were significantly worse in participants with concerns about possible health risks resulting from base stations than in participants who were not concerned.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they aren't bad if you take them out of the shell first
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yes, obviously..
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: While some papers were inconclusive or inconsistent, a number of studies have now demonstrated reversible EEG and rCBF alterations from exposure to pulsed RF exposure.  German research from 2006 found that statistically significant EEG changes could be consistently found, but only in a relatively low proportion of study participants (12 - 30%)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The study did not provide any evidence for short-term physiological effects of EMF emitted by mobile phone base stations on objective and subjective sleep quality.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's one citation. shall I find more?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: highway patrol officers were getting tumors and cancers in the head from using their radar and comminications equipment -- was that a myth
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well since it's been contradicted already, no
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: contradicted by whom? you?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I listed a source
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: While some papers were inconclusive or inconsistent,[58][59] a number of studies have now demonstrated reversible EEG and rCBF alterations from exposure to pulsed RF exposure.[60][61][62][63] German research from 2006 found that statistically significant EEG changes could be consistently found, but only in a relatively low proportion of study participants (12 - 30%)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fuckitalready
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: While some papers were inconclusive or inconsistent,[58][59] a number of studies have now demonstrated reversible EEG and rCBF alterations from exposure to pulsed RF exposure.[60][61][62][63] German research from 2006 found that statistically significant EEG changes could be consistently found, but only in a relatively low proportion of study participants (12 - 30%)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i hate firefox, it's broken
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: RF affects honey bees.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the wiki article links to about half a dozen different science papers showing links of EMF radiation to sleep
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Two double-blind placebo-controlled trials conducted at the University of Essex and another in Switzerland[72] concluded that mobile phone masts were unlikely to be causing these short term effects in a group of volunteers who complained of such symptoms.[73] The Essex study found that subjects were unable to tell whether they were being exposed to electromagnetic fields or not, and that sensitive subjects reported lower well-being independently of exposure.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I've just got here, could someone give the cliff notes?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure what wikipedia article you are looking at, but all of the ones relating to EMF and health effects contradict you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is it safe to leave my computer on in my room while I'm sleeping?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only if you're not korean
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, gregor, it might explode killing thousands of innocent people
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: computers have fans in them and those are well known to cause fan death
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: tech -h 70
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it is, but the whine of the moving parts and the shine of the LED indicators might result in poorer sleep quality.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but that kinda depends on how big your room is and/or proximity of bed and computer.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: My computer hums softly throughout the night, I was pondering on whether it was exhibiting harmful radiation.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you are responsible for drowning polar bears by leaving it on, though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: What about mobile phones, do they cause harm?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i put the computer into sleep-mode when not using the computer -- electricity is not cheap
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless you throw them really hard
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: How can you be so sure?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: jury's still out on that one, actually.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Does an annoyed Fiendish cause harm?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why it's still up in the air is likely politically-motivated, however, since it's bounced between yes and no something like a dozen times.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mobile phones cause you to crash, walk into roads, walk into lampposts, walk off buildings, turn into a txt-speaking idiot, and generally devolve human civilisation
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Do you think it's bad on moral grounds to leave aardowlf on all night when you are clearly sleeping and not playing?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes!
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what about the electricity?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that a question?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I leave aard connected virtually 24/7
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is it not contributing to oil depletion?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you asking if electricity is moral?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well, specifically using electricity when there is no apparent gain since you are asleep.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gregor = Igor de Troll
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: utilization of non-renewable natural resources is not inherently immoral
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some would disagree with you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they wouldn't if they allowed for a definition of terms first
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i'm sure the ones who would disagree are gredy for money.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: debate would make an excellent channel for this discussion.  if only because I don't have debate toggled on.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gregor: Were you nochanneled on Debate and Gossip again?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: greedy*
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can't be blocked on just one channel
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I come here for all my technical advice. I'm deciding on whether to leave aarwolf on all night so I don't have to turn my computer on in the morning.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: turn it off
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should get a computer that turns on faster
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: if you want to, go right ahead.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mine goes from off to desktop in 5 seconds
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Put it in Hibernation mode or give it to Tiger's nuts.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: use the pwr-management sleep mode
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: So do you turn your computer off at night Fiendish?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Gregor: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you still have to hack the registry for the fast startup, Fiendish?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: I don't use Windows, so no.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I have a linux distro that boots in 20 seconds or s
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i think it's called SSD's
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods at Ophelion.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: computers boot a hell of a lot faster from an ssd
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though you could probably also use something like...hmm...hold on...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1995 called, they want their important computer question of the time back
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i disconnect the phone-connection, to avoid damage from lightning strikes -- fuses are a pain to rewire in the telephone-line surge-protectors
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tigernuts: eTiger?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: what ssd means?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Solid State Drive
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: solid state drives
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Same tech a Flashdrive is, but bigger.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: a new form of hard drive if you are wondering.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fast low capacity storage that has swapped failure due to mechanical moving parts with failure due to limited lifetime read/writes
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I can't find the name of it, but there's some software package that re-orders files on your hard drive so that the boot process doesn't cause head thrashing
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pay your money, take your choice
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am interesting in quantum computers and the program involved. It sounds interesting with yes, no, and maybe.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: quantum computers are a myth 
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, but MS deliberately made a key that held a wait time for start up.  Back when G4 was still Tech TV and didn't suck, there was a gizmo tips show (the host looked a lot like Gil Grissom from CSI) offering advice on new components, stuff like dual-booting, and DIY projects like the YBox gaming system (an all-in-one custom case housing the internals from all the major game consoles).
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not a myth and it's not yes/no/maybe
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's yes/no/both
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I read it as maybe.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some form of optical or biological computers are more likely
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, it's called E4rat
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but are biological computers ethical
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: E = ?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not maybe.  The computing devices we have now are based on the binary system (0s and 1s).  Quantum data can be stored as 0, 1, or 2 (the 2 indicates a combination of an unobserved state)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: e4rat stands for e4 'reduced access time' 
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: e4 is ext4
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's also a crap tv channel
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ext4 is 4th extended filesystem
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: so... no more windows media player on windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use vlc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use vlc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popa Tech: VLC seconded. Also, reformat and install Windows 7 first. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya vlc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: MPC > VLC
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger shakes Atoam's hand.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Wrong shake
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I like windows 8 just fine tyvm
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like aTube to get YouTube videos.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Windows 8 works fine, there's just no real incentive to move from 7 to 8.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: Pretty much. Windows 7 is better than Vista, but I liked XP more than 7.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Eh.  I loved XP.  I like 7 better.  Vista was "OK", mostly because I was overkill on the system specs and so it ran quite well.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I find it funny that MS is charging $100 US a year to use Microsoft Office in the cloud.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: If I want to do a three monitor hookup, it only requires a second graphics card? Or a more complicated setup?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that depends on your graphics card
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: depends on your motherboard, but yes two graphics cards will do it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there was a card a while ago that could do 3 monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I have a GTX 680 that does up to four by itself
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if you have onboard video you can use that and a card with 2 connections for 3 monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: great thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: since when can computers use both onboard and external graphics at the same time?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: They can't.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: they can depending on the motherboard
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Popa nods at Mokg.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Or they can.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: I'm just listing possibilities here.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: onboard is really just an external that happens to be on the same wafer
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure sure, but this is a driver interface problem
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's been a stupid barrier for a really long time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no real difference between onboard and external, and two externals...now shared vs real/discrete is a difference
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my understanding is just that operating systems haven't had a hook for multiple display hardware drivers at the same time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: a quick google shows lots of people use onboard+external at the same time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: definitely has never been an issue of Macs since their introduction...windows pretty much sucked at multiple monitors until XP, but seems to have been pretty good since
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe you're thinking about that you have to disable onboard if you ONLY want to use the real card...that's a situation that comes up often enough
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because without onboard being disabled, the low-level stuff would be going to that
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Every machine I've tried it on will automatically disable the onboard if there's an external plugged in. Can't speak to Macs though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: dumb newb question: to figure out power needs for my dream box, I just read the specs for everything that plugs in?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In theory, yes. In practice, try.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Stuff tends to use less power than specs say. Or sometimes more.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how much more is more?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, in my experience, most things tend to use a little less than specs. But sometimes specs are wrong. But not that often. Also, specs are for steady state, start up can be more. Only way to know is to try.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the odds of you actually using peak power from all devices simultaneously is vanishingly small
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if it's even possible at all
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, at start up that can happen.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you've ever tried to start up a whole datacenter worth of gear after a power outage, you know how nasty start up power can be....
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a datacenter which starts up after a power outage failed at being a datacenter...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A datacenter that has a power outage failed. Stuff happens.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's perfectly fine to have a power outage
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as long as you don't have all the powers outage
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not everyone is perfect, like you, Abe.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I was once in a hospital that lost power
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're not talking about perfect...that's utter disgrace
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a datacenter without a genset is just some guy's basement
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: As I said, shit happens.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sometimes things don't work.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Some guy's climate-controlled basement.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my basement is climate controlled
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And a football stadium without power is called Superbowl XLVII
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jangel Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the football stadium's job was to keep safety lighting on, which it did...a datacenter's job is to keep the server's powered
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the servers should all be on UPS that provides a few hours worth of power, and those should be backed up by a diesel generator (or a few) which then provide unending power to the appropriate circuits...if those two elements don't exist, it's not a datacenter
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've had 2 outages at places I've worked, even with those things. In real life, things fail. And people make mistakes. Fortunately, not me in those cases :D
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It was a while ago though.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And in a real DC, UPS only has enough power for the diesel to start or for a techie to start it. Usually like half an hour or so.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: UPS are expenive.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are, but runtime isn't
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the expense is in the conversion
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, it is.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: does anybody know a webpage i can go to to see what files i should copy from an older aard mushclient to a newer one in order to keep all my alias's / mapped areas + exits etc in the new one?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the screenshot, click download client
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that page tells you everything
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For a gaming system.. any thoughts on multiple magnetic drives in raid vs singular SSD?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Online gaming or local?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I think SSD would give you better performance
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anymore theres hardly a distinction.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. I just know SSD is more costly then a couple of magnetic drives, for less storage
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: You might see a marginal performance increase with the SSD.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: ssd's only help with load times
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I know Mokg.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: they will do pretty much nothing for in game experience
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: yeah, if cost is a factor, go with raid.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if you want faster load screens get the SSD, if you dont care about them regular HD's will be fine
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Only in-game benefit is if there's a lot of on-demand local data loading
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For things like SC, I at least personally spend quite a bit of time at load screens
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: then an SSD would be good if you want to cut down on them
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, just meant vs a raid setup.. Really I'd like to use a 32-64GB ssd to cache.. but my chipset is the one just before intel implemented that
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: raid speeds wont compare to a sata 3 ssd drive
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair. Maybe upgrading my mother board might be a better option
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: raid isn't for speed
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe, but certain raid configurations will give you improved speed.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Admittedly, ones that should be droping the R from the acronym.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no they wont. only striping will increase speed and striping isn't raid
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so yeah. AID
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which is still referred to as Raid, fiendish. And exactly what I was just talking about =p
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyone sane doesn't talk about "RAID0"
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: maybe that is why it is raid0 cause it is 0 amount of raid
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods at Vorpal Vorpes.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Still generally reffered to as raid though, vorpes. regardless of the actual redundancy
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hey i call it raid0 but it really doesn't have redundancy
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's also a really effective way of significantly increasing your risk of data loss
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: This is why I let the network guys do all the work with this stuff, I'm just an administrator :P
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Purely gaming system. Data loss is a non issue
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Though there are advantages to being an admin on the largest private network in the world.  Yay for sux0r VPNs!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Guess I should just bite the bullet and get a moderately sized SSD
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they're not that expensive
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Still quite a bit more then a magnetic drive
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've had a 120GB ssd for a few years now
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sizes have gone up since then
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not that you really need larger
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: What's the price of an SSD these days
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its generally less than a dollar per gigabyte. pretty affordable imo
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: my 160gb was like $120 i think
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 120GB isn't much when you're talking game storage
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: You can get a 256 for like $200 now
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: that's cheap
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Really just depends on if you're going with Crucial, OCZ, SanDisk, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: you even get 450 gig SSD but that's insanely expensive
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I hear good things about Samsung
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know how well the intel macs run with windows installed? Equivlent to the same hardware from a PC manufacturer? for games and the like, is it comporable to an equivlent videocard/cpu in a non-mac pc?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not exactly the same
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think apple keeps the bootcamp drivers up to date very well
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I remember having fan issues on an old powerbook
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhh I was thinking since you were installing windows, you'd be using the Nvidia drivers
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or intel/radeon as the case may be
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are more fundamental hardware problems like fan control
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: keyboard lighting
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and so on
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah really? That's pretty sloppy if its still true
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have no idea if it still is
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, worth looking in to. If things like fan speed are having issues, performance is almost an aside to that
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not insurmountable
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are things you can install to customize fan speed control in windows
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: True too, I guess. Though, looking at then, $1800 minimum, probably likely $2200. Some reason I was thinking the lower end macbooks had the nvidia graphics as well, my mistake
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper question... why is it my mapper wants to take the labryinth portal and run from there instead of the planes portal and 13th pool to get to mirror realm?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have the planes dropoff mapped, it just seems that hte mapper doesn't want to use room portals?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do I drag main output window in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Grab the top.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: TY
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to undock the text input line?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Not that I know of
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: firing this thing u for the first time, so will likely have several anckle-biter questions.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: last time I used a mud client was zmud on a 800x600 screen
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have no idea what to do with all this gorgeous screen realestate
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I had to upgrade to Windows XP to use the modern MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looking for the font controls for the main output screen... found them on right-click for the satalite windows.  cant find controls for main, though
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: game->configure
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in lau, if I want to add a variable to the end of an alias when I type it (cast fireball x), what is the format when making the aliase?  I thought it was %1
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: possibly have to put "%1"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it doesnt even recognize it as the same alias.  once I add the "target", it thinks Im just ryping crap into the screen.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: assume i have an alias "pp" for primary attack spell.  if I type "pp", the client returns 'cast flame'.  I need to add the name of the target when I type the alias in, but when I type 'pp monster', the alias 'pp' is not send to the mud.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: try pp * and have the alias be cast flame %1
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do you have regular expresion toggled?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: if u type pp + target name it will sub it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: or the first letter etc
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mushclient - pattern pp*, send cast flame%1
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: pp* is a horrible pattern
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: rondel, that is what makes sense to me, but theres something critical missing.  scars: i dont know.  I will try to check
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Just type pp mobname
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: it should sub the pp for cast flame
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ffs, read the history styx..
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: that would be pp * styx
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: pp * is still horrible
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i believe the problem is that you have your alias set to regex
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i omit the space so you can type pp and have it fire without a target
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you want something akin to pp %w
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or just turn of regex?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: you can still have it fire without a target Redryn
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I dunno the MUSH pattern matching syntax that well tho but in cmud it would just be pp (%w)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: considering that you've yet to offer a solution to the problem of pp mobname not already working...
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you don't know the mush pattern matching engine...
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I know enough to to tell someone to use pp*
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: using pp* would probably work, until you have an alias thats pportal, or whatever, then you have an overlapping match
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and that sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx nods at Scars.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Just a bad habit in general
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i use ^pp(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that looks good
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I have something like pp *, then set it as a script and Execute("c something %1")
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you type pp, does it work?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or do you have to always type the space after
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what norton has is ideal, imo
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i went through it a year ago on tech. i wanted a pattern that worked as pp   or pp mobname  or pp 2.mobname
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: does mush not allow you to do Alias: pp  Value: pp  and that would match anything after pp?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: does mush not allow you to do Alias: pp  Value: pp %0 and that would match anything after pp?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: sorry, I set it up with if and case statements
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ive gotten to where "pp mob" at lease recognizes that its an alias, still.  now I am trying to get it to recognize"mob" as the target
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: styx:  thats what I say... should work
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: it would on zmud/cmud but MUSH is alittle different.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: vonliege:  why not use what norton has?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: because I don't have a clue what any ofthat means....I'll use it and try to understand it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and that's why pp* is the best in this situation :p
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that worked... I have no idea why, or what any ofthat means, but it worked
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lack of understanding is an awful reason to use a known bad solution when a good solution is present
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's essentially a regex with options
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: <squint> 
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not a programmer, so my explanation sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but that's the gist of it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: shoot norton a tell, maybe he'll explain
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: the \s+ bit allows multiple spaces   the next 2 brackets allow optional 2.   for example   and the last bit allows a set of chars  to allow trigger on pp   pp name    pp 2.name
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so you can't use this for 3.mob?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton slaps Scars.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess for now, "im just going to make a phone call", not "build a new phone"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and for that, I don't need to know how the phone works
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it makes me feel so dependent, thoguh
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: fwiw, that syntax will work with 3.mob, 4.mob, small.mob, (phrase).(phrase)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: should mush client ever cause my fan to spin up?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not familiar with "small"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: uh, no, probably not
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: h it is
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: was just an example of a non-number preceeding the period
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: roger.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: and jaws is stuttering and such.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege is too literal
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: dang , not used to mush ever doing this. but someone deleted my former setup and I cannot get it back
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: someone?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: no, couldnt just keep my aard stuff had to only keep miriani.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: over ten hours of work
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: and jaws wont read the plugin list, yall sighted and your mini windows
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: needless to say, i gotta wait on someone sighted to fig this
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: fix
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: once i removed gmcp related stuff it got better.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: can i disable gmcp permenantly?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: personally the client didnt need it by default
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: As far as I know GMCP is only turned on when the client or a plugin within the client tells the MUD that it supports it.  Well I know that to be the case with the group GMCP info, no reason to believe the others are any different.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: yes, and mush now, with the new setup auto readds its plugin which is not having a good sda with my system
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i cant play here till i fix this
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: and judging cause i cant get my old setup back will be never well. yeah.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: number pad navigation... where's the up and down?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: plus and minus?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well how aboutthat....
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to clone the main output window?  or split the screen, perhaps?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: not that I'm aware of, so miss that feature from CMUD :P
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: reason is, as an example, if I "list" at a vendor, I'd like to see that list long after it scrolls away off the top of my screen without having to roll back, or re-list
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I rather enjoyed it on zMud as well
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: look at this thread: http://gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9454 - it doesn't do colors though
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anyway to get the stats window in mush to display weight info, or get a seperate window for weight?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Not worth the effort to change it, IMO. At msot you'll usually be overweight for the first 30ish levels, and those can be done in 10-12 minutes.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege roll cheezburger
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger rolls his eyes at himself in disgust.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege -)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's doable. but, not worth the simple gmcp data retrieval
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how about an affects window?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anyone doing that?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: There's already one. finget bast.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: finger*
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: spellup plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: toss me a little more info so I can figure it out
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: finger bast :P
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: that's all you need :P
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: indeed... it is all I need
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: btw, weight isn't sent in gmcp, so you would have to parse something else like "score" to get it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seems like you would want to do list inv at all times, i doubt you care waht player-sold crap is in the shop
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I keep getting runtime errors when I try to load bast scripts...  I am almost positive I coppied them correctly
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is the error?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hi bast
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: first... to load one of your scripts...  I go to the scripts window, browse, select the miniwindow script, and open... then in my main output window, I get a bunch of orange text, startinf with runtime error
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: specifically, I select '\lua\miniwin.lua'
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and click 'open'
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you don't tell me what the error is, I can't help you, just saying error means nothing, if you want to show me the full error, copy the error to pastebin.com and give me the url it returns
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess I don't understand how to identify the error.  am I looking for a number in my main output window?  I'm not getting a pop-up window with an error message or anything
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: wait....
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: heres what I see:  [string "Script file"]:158: module 'phelpobject' not found:
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I might just not be using the script right... 
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: also, there are a bunch of 'no file xxxxxxxx' lines after that
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the more I look at this, the more it looks like I don't have the files in the right place
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's looking for files from your zipfile folder in the parent directory from where I put the \bast folder
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the bast folder has to be in the worlds/plugins directory and it needs to be laid out exactly as it is in the zipfile
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. I got that from your installation instructions page... and it is correct... 
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's looking for files like phelpobject.lua, and loadall.dll
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is there a lua directory under the Bast folder?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but that's not where the script is looking for them:  no file 'C:\Users\Eric\Desktop\mush\MUSHclient\lua\phelpobject.lua'
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: give me the full directory path to the Bast folder also, please
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: C:\Users\Eric\Desktop\mush\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what version of windows are you running?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: windows home 7 premium
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you running mushclient from a shortcut?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no... clicking on the executable right from the directory
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: anyone know what plugin is printing the item id's when i check inv?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: aard_inventory_serials
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "/print(GetInfo(60))", what does it say?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: thanks a ton i removed it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "Use 'recall' with no other arguments to recall."  it sees "/" and only thinks "recall"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the default scripting prefix in aardmush is \\\, not /
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tech i didn't think I had changed it, thanks Myrkul!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, type "\\\print(GetInfo(60))", what does it say?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Scripting is not active yet, or script file had a parse error
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go to Game->Configure->Scripting , make sure it is set to Lua and check the "Enable scripting" box
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's afirmative... I did note that out to the right, on the line that has the "enable scripting" radio boxes that it said "(not active)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it still says not active after checking the box?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, go to file->Global preferences and then the "Lua" tab, are there any lines in there that do not start with --?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How may I get a form's submit button to run a PHP function instead?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there are two lines that do, the a url (http://www.gammon.com.au/security) that does not
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the=then
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: trurien: action="phpscript.php"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: PHP is server side, so it should be enough to provide link to script
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, clear that dialog and restart mushclient, then check to see if scripting becomes active
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, but I only want to call a particular function on the same PHP page, can I do that?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: action="?variable=lala" would call the same script but with parameters. You can'tt really "call Functions" directly from the outside, must be seen as a page-load
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no change
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: still says "(not active)"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, so I the action field is really just the URL that gets called when you click submit?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: **nods*
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Vonliege: check whether you have "allow DLLs to be loaded" under global preferences -> lua tab
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it is checked
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe your antivir is blocking something
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: understand, this is a brand new fresh install of the aard mush client
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: first thing I did... suspend all anti-everything.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: let's test something, download the newest aardwolf mushclient from https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/, install it to c:\games\mushclient, and see what scripting is set to
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ok, but I did that just 40 minutes ago... just started using it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oh... I see what you are getting at... change the dir
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what 'checkversion' does say ?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: r1723
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have r1748 is the latest version
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have r1738, downloaded 1-2 weeks ago, so where did you get your version from?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ok, I have another instance of the client running, and out of the box, it is (active)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you have a beta... I have the newest release
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I always run the beta because Fiendish fixes stuff all the time, but yes, he released a new beta yesterday
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: now here's something odd....  the link you gave me is r1748
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I got my 1728 from the link on the aardmud website
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: going to copy the bast folder over there and see what happens\
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: strange
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oops, he hasn't released the version I have yet
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: want me to ditch it?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm using r1748
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, just try to load my plugins in the one in c:\games
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: lets back way up here... please walk me thru starting your script from mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and I did try... soon as I ran one, same errors, and it flipped to (not active)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which one did you try to load, it isn't one script, it is multiple and it depends on which one you load
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: miniwin.lau
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I selected miniwin.lau from the browse window and clicked "ok"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that's why, the plugins are in the Bast folder, only helper files are in the lua folder
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what plugin do you want to use, there are several miniwindow plugins, and then all are miniwin_*.xml in the Bast folder
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... there's only one .lau file in the bast folder...laupath.lau
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: .xml are plugin files, .lua files are not plugin files
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: .xml?  defaul file type is .lau... might be the trouble
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: how are you trying to load the plugins?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: file->plugins and then hit the Add button is how you load a plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege sigh
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there's your trouble... I was going through the "scripting" window
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: glad we got it figured out, clear out the script file and load plugins through File->Plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but... I don't see any of you scripts listed
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: double click the Bast folder when the Add dialog comes up
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... no bast folder in the add dialog
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: you're doing it wrong.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's the path to the bast folder for the instance of the game I am using ATM
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: where did you copy the Bast folder to, it should be under c:\games\mushclient\worlds\plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: C:\Users\Eric\Desktop\mush\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you running that one, or are you running the one in c:\games?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Why do you have 2?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: because we were testing something
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: this is the one I am running.... lemme hop over and check the other one
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my bad....  I have to click the "add" button to see them... I though the "add" button was to click the one you wanted, then click add
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and.... (drum roll)... there's the window
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yay!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks for spending the last 73 minutes of your life wiping my nose, bast
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are worse things to wipe
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: glad we got it sorted out, and that isn't the record, so don't feel bad
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the sad thing is that I made some assumption right off the bat that were incorrect (how to add plugins)... that set us on a course that would never have found resolution
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the pivital moments was when you said "how are you trying to load the plugins?"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but we did find resolution, so no worries, I had a guy swear to me he copied the files to the right place after I asked him to double check at least a dozen times, so I went through half a day of back and forth before he realized he didn't copy the files at all
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I am sure Fiendish has had similar experiences
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: btw: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Intro has links to what all my plugins do with screenshots for most of them
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: thank you will check it out
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: woah...
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so when I add a plugin via the file->plugins menu... so I chose bast_spellup, or miniwin-spellup?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: screwed something up here moving from 1738 to 1748
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lost all of my mapper info
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: portals, cexits
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what'd i do wrong?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vonliege: if you want a miniwin, use miniwin_spellup
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Scars: did you copy the Aardwolf.db from your old install over the new one?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: duh...
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: try #2!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars will be right back! 
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: all better
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars thanks Bast heartily.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np, there is an upgrade guide, I don't know if you used it or not but it is on this page: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am getting extra text in my output window, and I suspect that it is from a plugin... it is {affon}xx,xxxx, and is linked to spellups
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: that sounds mud-side.....to me. but i don't know MUSH....if that's what you're using.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K.. thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you had a spellup plugin that enabled spelltags and then you removed the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anyone have any idea about extra text {affon}xxx,xxxx being sent to my output screen?  I think its from a plugin, maybe a spellup one.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do tech -h 5
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you type "tags", you'll see a listing of a bunch of types of tags that can be separately toggled
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... that is correct... removed it... how do you suppose I can get rid of the extra text now?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: catching up to you now... gimme a sec
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags...look at that list for the one that would make sense to turn off, then tags <thatone> off
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that whooped it... thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: can i put a '//' or something in front of a line in my alias so that mush doesn't read it, but i don't have to delete it?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can start a line with ; if you don't want aliases to execute, if that's what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: i will try that, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, actually, that's not right
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: lol, yeah just tested it, it said that into group
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That just makes everything literal, but still executes aliases
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is that want you're wanting to do?  Bypass an alias?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: like in programming when documenting, can i leave something in the send box but not have it be sent?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: i.e. */ or somethin
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh.  I don't think you can do that, no.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can hit cntrl+alt+w to open a notepad window, though (or cntrl+alt+space to switch to an already opened one)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: if i have an alias with 4 lines, but I want to only use 2 for a few times. i don't want to have to delete the lines but it seems i need to c&p them huh?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can have an alias send something to the mud, and then something else to the command line
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not sure if that's what you want
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: no, it's fine, i can c&p. I just thought i could make a line invisible like in other programing languages
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Still not sure exactly what you're trying to accomplish.  Why do you want stuff on the command line if you don't want it to be sent to the mud?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Oh wait, do you mean in the alias window when you're making an alias?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Gah, need to stop switching windows...
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: ok, for example, i have an alias the attacks with a fun warcry but i want to use the alias in a group but just go in and make the warcry not trigger
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I know what you mean now.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I was thinking the command line when you said "send box"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you change "send to" to script, then yes, you can do comments by starting with --
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You'd have to do Send("blah") for stuff you want to send to the mud, in that case.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: reddit css is gone lol
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: ok, i will just c&p sounds easier :)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: was*
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: hello techaroos
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i just installed a new PSU.  Is it normal to smell ozone-y for a while after?  I installed it in the first place b/c my old PSU fan was broken and something smelled ozone-y.  So now I'm not sure if I've fixed the problem.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Your computer smells like rain?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it smells like electrons
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: .....everything has electrons
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger snickers with Vorpal Vorpes about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well cept plasma i guess
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: To answer your question, not normal.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dang it.  what else would be making that smell
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you sure it's not a subatomic particle you are smelling?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: something on the motherboard is burning maybe?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: and does anyone want an old dusty rocketfish 500w psu?  i.e. my old which might in fact be fine except for the fan whcih I think is broken.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, what smell is it? You said "ozone-y" but no to rain, then you said like electrons (which makes no sesne whatsoever)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it smells electrical
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: thats all i got
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: probably your mind playing tricks on you
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Mobo short, crossed wire .. lots of 'electrical' smelling things.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: definitely not that
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so i brought my car to the mechanic and told him it occasionally smells like cocaine. yea i got a interesting look
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: My car consistently smells like marijuana and I have no idea why
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you know you can buy a $5 psu tester right?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no vorpes, where and how is that?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: newegg or tigerdirect
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2441812&CatId=1107
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the one i got basically just gives you a green or red light if the thing works
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: all that does is save me the 5 minutes it takes to swap out a psu and the connections?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: keeps you from having to buy a psu cause you 'think' it is the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i.e. if i improve case airflow will they spin less?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: well this tester won't tell me why my psu fan is broken or why I smell a foreboding smell
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vorpes no to what
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: perhaps new psu is dead?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: new psu is powering my system!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it won't identify indescribable smells or broken fan
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so everything works and you just are wondering about the smell?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ah well pour some water on it an comeback to me then :P
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it seems less than before, so I'm not sure if it's just becasue this PSU is new and needs to be broken in or whatever
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: seems less what?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: steam is what i think killed my old psu
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: less electrical smelling
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: electromagnetic fields don't smell
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dude, you know thinks that use a lot of voltage produce a smell
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I've smelled it from laser printers, psus, etc.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how are you on tech channel
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: just like everyone else :p typing tech before words :p
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well what you smell from laser printers is actually probably steam
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: really?  and where does this steam come from?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: laser burning toner
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyway if it is working and there is just a smell, i wouldn't worry about it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: quick survey.  would you pay a 25% premium for a rig that is totally silent?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: not me because it does not bother the deaf :p
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: meh i have a fiance so i never hear the computer
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: fiance is much more expensive than silent rig though
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'm thinking about starting a business building silent PCs won't i forugre out how to build silent pcs
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: good luck
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: advertise not having electron smell or noise
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, i play with the aardclient on multiple PCs with different aspect ratios... is there a way to store display layouts?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: even a pc with pure non moving parts will have noise im sure
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I will also claim it keeps away bed bugs
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so that all other settings are the exact same, but the display is unique to each computer
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vanion ->  not the ones I will figure out how to make!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: IMO i would never mention bed bugs _EVER_
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does that make sense?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no idea scars but if you figure it out let me know cause it drives me nuts
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I keep AardMUSH cloud to access it.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: my time is too valuable for labor, so I'll just hire some mexicans to build them
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i put mush on my google drive and run it from there, works out nicely
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie has just smacked Juictice into oblivion! RUN, before you're next!!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and the troll has now gotten to the point of ridiculous
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: juictice, then for sure they'll be noisy :p
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: any idea, Bast?  i know you're a mush expert :D
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no, I'm for real.  I live in NYC.  small apts, high rents, people i think will pay $$$ to buy a silent pc
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i would!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it can't be done easily, you would have to have different version of the savestate files and copy them over depending on where you are running it from
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: juictice, stfu for a moment would you, i've got a tech question i'm trying to get answered... tia
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i was afraid of that, Bast.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no way to do percentage of screen relationship?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: scars, from skydrive, change the aspect ratio to 144hz then overclock mushclient GUI and proxy into the alternate machine
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not in the way current plugins create miniwindows
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: any way to actually attach miniwindows to make them act as a single window for display purposes?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not in any plugins that I know of
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: bummer, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you can carry on with your dribble juistice
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: try my soln
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: skydrive <> google drive, so i have no idea what you're talking about
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it's the same if you overclock to 1920 x 1480
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Scars: Skydrive is MS version of Google's Google Drive.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: gotcha, so his solution is not a solution, thanks for clearing that up for me, Turie :)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Scars: It is cloud storage.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, but it doesn't help with miniwindow layout
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could use Dropbox, Skydrive, Google Drive, or even Evernote.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: just replace skydrive with google drive and off you go
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars points excitedly at Bast!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what he said
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just replace Juictice with Jackymoon and off he goes.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what is a jackymoon
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: has anyone ever experienced a lack of picture for a device connected via HDMI?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like a bad tech issue.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: said device is powering on and sound is being delivered, just no picture.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. on my laptop. but only if the ati graphics card is set in power saving mode
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this is in a TV/blueray/receiver setup, no computer involved other than that internal to the devices.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: are 10m doubles exactly 20 ticks?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: or is it an actual 10m now vs being controlled by ticks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did that double end on a tick? Don't think it did.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: --> TICK <-- (Hp: 53%, Mn: 83%, Mv: 91%, Qt: 15)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: INFO: Bonus experience has now expired.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: hi all, anyone can tell me why my "no command echo" is "off" when i start the mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: there's a setting in input/commands "echo my input in:"    is it ticked ?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: I moved Mushclient to a new computer any the ascii map is missing. I tried to disable/reenable the plugin. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: can't find that, what i do is, menu Display->No Command Echo (and i tick it) after restarting mush it gets unticked
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: in game/configure    input/commands    is where i'm talking about
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: the other is probably the telnet echo which gets reset after you type in your password
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you will probably have to remove and reinstall all of your plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cherylpantz: ^
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cherylpantz thanks The Jerk Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: plugins are found based on file path. if you move to a new computer and put mushclient in a different location it won't be able to find anything
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: thks norton, got it :)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: tholgram: you're welcome.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sciophen Tech: Just read how to connect to mud
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sciophen Tech: with any linux termial
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sciophen Tech: Groovy :3
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: telnet?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sciophen Tech: Yeah. It's being a bit weird an my android's emulator, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sciophen Tech: I still think it's pretty cool though
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: how to get mush to prompt me with that update msg again
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: My xrunto thinks kul tiras is in a place where it isn't, any idea how I can fix that?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what provides xrunto?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the MUSH mapper I think
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: runto kultiras, xset mark
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, I must have an old version!
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: xrunto and xset, basically xeverything is SnD
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: WinkleWinkle's mapper extender.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't understand, that room is xset now, but I'm still ending up in the middle of nowhere
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: my xrunto goes through the aard hotel though
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Maybe your mapper portals/cexits are messed up?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: probably trying to use a portal that you can't use
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: or not, if amulet
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: dont use it in noportal rooms
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm not getting any errors in the speedwalk, but I am using the elevator cexit in aardwolf hotel
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I think that must be doing it somehow
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are the elevator exits in the hotel different than the normal exits?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: can someome help me i need help with the app Midpssh to play Aard on my blackberry
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: step 1) buy an android
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: not everyone likes an android device.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: i have a blackberry
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Step 2) Buy an iPhone
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: step 2) forget step 1 and get a computer
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Not everybody is as much of an Apple fanatic as you, Sneak. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Indeed. But I see the merits of lesser brands.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: im on computer now and i need it on my blackberry so i can play any where
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I guess everyone has different ideas of 'need' ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I guess you called always use #substitue in your client and change north to "north-west".
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Once you fulfill a layer of pyramid of needs and wants, your definition of 'need' shifts a layer higher.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: can we display group member's align on the group window in mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: doesent it do it automaticly?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: well the colour of the name is an indicator
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: but i was hoping for the exact number
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to remove the aardwolf wallpaper from mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: delete the file
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yes.l
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i believe you can modify one of the files and remove the entry for it
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: can't remember which file tho. its ages since i did it
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I don't see any image files in the mush dir...
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: in worlds/plugins/aard_layout.lua, there a line that reads          WindowDrawImage (bgoffscreen, "wolf_logo", 0, 0, 0, 0, miniwin.image_copy)
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: if you put --- in front of it, it comments it out
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: shouldnt it be only --
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seems like if -- works, --- works, too
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: tech possibly... i might have been finger happy when i did it
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: its not neat to use --- when -- works just as well
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i probably put --- in front of it to remind me that i'd made the comment
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: id prob add another comment to remind me :P
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: <!--   and then --> is what google tells me for comments in xml
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you might need that extra "-" later on... say for lunch
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i tell ya what. i'll not bother helping people again if the solution i provide is just gonna be belittled for being slightly inaccurate.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im sorry i just like neat code
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: one day you'll learn to accept something... "We value what works."  and you'll drop a lot of this perfectionistism
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: norton... i really appreciate your help, especiall on the spell alias yesterday.  I am completly and sincerely sorry for my flipiantcy
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2757396/how-do-i-comment-out-a-block-of-tags-in-xml
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: anyone know jquery here?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Yeah, what do you need?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: I posted my question here: https://forum.jquery.com/topic/how-to-retrieve-dynamic-content-residing-on-another-page
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: mapper portal is it possible to set it to not use normal CP during gq?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you could set up a correction to just walkto instead of goto in cases like that, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: Is this the only option?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: Appreciate though
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: there does not appear to be a built-in way to create a conditional use of a portal
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so yeah, i think you'd have to throw together some trigger to reattempt the movement using goto
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: although, i wonder, maybe the trigger could be to delete the CP from your portal list, try the goto again, and you would just need to re-add the CP again
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone know if it's possible to format a Chromebook to use as a regular laptop?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wouldn't be surprised if they'd coded it up to prevent that
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes, so long as you don't mind using ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: google chrubuntu
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wot, no windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Bah! Hard to find a 11.6/12.1 inch screensize for that price!
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: ahh okay :)thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Specifically the acer c7 chromebook is supposed to work well for it.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: From what I read though, seems I'd be better off dropping an extra $100 or so for just a basic laptop
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Why's that?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rufassilem Tech: How do i reset my plugins to fit back on my page?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rufassilem Tech: Using aardcleint and one got out of the frame, I cant drag it back in.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: That happened to me. Switching to a different client in a rage proved an effective solution.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rufassilem Tech: I know there is a reset command. I just dont know what it is.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Woah, you're getting all technical on me.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The fourth dimension is time?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: whats a good .epub, .mobi reader?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: I like my nook simple touch
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: use calibre to convert files to .epub and manage them, and no problems
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: my wife's on the phone right now replacing ours, screen just died
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: had it since Christmas, like 2 months
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: to be fair, I've got 3 kids, so entirely possible one's lying through their teeth about damaging it, but they swear they didn't break it :P
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I did -h and couldnt find an answer to the mush layout issue? no resettables? its off the screen :(
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: The one Rufassilem asked? I answered it, just not helpfully.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yeah, i dont think that's an option for my other friend
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: try resetaard
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: for those that were looking to an SSD the other day. newegg is selling a 500 gig SSD for under 300 dollars
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Nice!
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: which one?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147190&Tpk=SAMSUNG%20840%20Series%20MZ-7TD500BW
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Ok, I'm only 24 years old, but my computer I built in 2005 had a 160gb hard drive that was about 300 dollars
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Crazy
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: promo code: EMCXVVP23. 280 dollars. only have until end of today
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Thanks :).  I'm looking for a 250 tho -- doesn't seem like they have a good sale on those
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: But the Pro is great I hear!
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: promode code: EMCXVVP28. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147189&Tpk=SAMSUNG%20840%20Series%20MZ-7TD250BW
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: 160 dollars for 250 gigs
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that is a good price
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're a good price
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: only a half hour later
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: why thank you, nicest thing i have heard all day
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: now talk dirty to me
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: boy fell in the mud :P
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: dude i am not a catholic priest
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I seem to have lost my battle prompt... I look at p data, and there is one defined, but none is shown.  Is there a help file that will address this?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bprompt
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... I have a bprompt defined
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bprompt
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but whoes on second?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bprompt
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: abbot and costelo?  "who's on second"?  <sigh> no one gets my joke
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I figured it out the second time you said it, and made the A&B reference as an oblique acknowlegement of my denseness of thought
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: has anyone had experience with A-BUS equipment?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that like DBUS equipment?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I always rode the short bus... I think it was a b-model
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popa Tech: Jokes should be funny Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it's for home audio over cat5 with ir blasting and such
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege sighs
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: blasting is such a violent word
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what about IR gently caressing?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: U R?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: baboon
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: booban?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: anyone know if i can take my alias's from one account to another ?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: client ones yes, game ones no
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: if i just type like alias strike c ' ground strike' 
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: and i use mush client
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: which is that ??? 
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: game
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can make a client one that does the same by typing #alias {strike} {c 'ground strike'}
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: use the astix ?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's an octothorpe
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and yes
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (did it work out?)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: all my alias's were game.. but yes i made one
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: if your talking to me :P
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: using the same method you can convert your game aliases to client ones. probably easier to only have one char though :)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: is there something i can use to take the mini map to a new window for zmud?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: You could use triggers and #CAPTURE
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Im pretty new with zmud so im not sure what #capture will do
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: the zmud help files are pretty extensive, I suggest studying up some.  You will want to use a combination of #C+ along with maptags to capture the output to the the new window and then gag it.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: its prolly not the easiest thing to start out with.  I suggest getting used to triggers and things of that nature first.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: oh the triggers and macros were easy to figure out. i just havent had a chance to use the rest of it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Alternativly, If you don't want to have to script yourself you can check out the Aard version of MUSH available on the website as it does a lot of the small stuff for you out of the box... And its free.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: also check the mud command 'tags map on'.  It'll put tags before and after the map
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: should help you capture it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: awsome. Thank you again
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Does Mush have a Macro function on it?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i think so
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Alt-Enter, half way down
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Darn almost perfect client. Want to create a Macro with the keypad to use for movement
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: there is keypad setup
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: under input tab there is keypad section
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: well there is one that says Key and im able to add to select it but it isnt showing up in the macro list
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: its not part of the macro list i dont think
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Hold on i was looking and keypad is above macro. Going to see if that works
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yeah thats the one i pointed out....
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: lol you said input before so i was using the input tap
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: kinda figured keypad would be in the maco section
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yes under input the subtab keypad
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Well thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: can someone help me?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: trying to set up mccp
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What platform/client?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: fmud flash client
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: jus on aardworlf.com
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Download aardmush, from the http://www.aardwolf.com/play/index.htm
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You must have an installed client to use MCCP afaik - the flash and applets do not support it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: i downloaded the proxy can i not use it?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just dl the ordinary client :-) Already preset with everything like that, including a mapper, stat window and health monitors, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The one under >>Recommended : Aardwolf MushClient
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: ok so i got the aardmush
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: so now how do i run the mccp?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You don't - it is already running
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: mccp is on in aardmush by default
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: sweet thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay im looking into accelerators using defult lua of mushclient. what would the key names be for the arrow keys?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: So, I just "updated" mushclient and seem to have lost everything, it's gone back to the original layout no pluging etc etc, any suggestions? :)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: plugins*
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: did u follow the steps set up by aard faqs?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: nope, I just got a prompt when I started mushclient which took me to a web site download
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: there are 5 steps and its important
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: I simply extracted the files to my mushclient directory. Any suggestions for reversing it, or am I kinda screwed?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: all the steps and answer are there, Nokian
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: and not terribly helpful now that I am this far in, but I'll keep trying on my own I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: are u downloading the latest build?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: "[27 Feb 09:54:46] Nokian Tech: I simply extracted the files to my mushclient directory. Any suggestions for reversing it, or am I kinda screwed?"
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: are u downloading the r1748?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: I already downloaded it, and replaced it in my games folder, I don't know what version it was, it was whatever muchclient recommended I do
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: type checkversion and post ur version pls
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: yes r1748
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: that the latest 4.89 version u have, so wats the problem?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nokian buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: I did not follow the steps in the FAQ. The link MUCH put me to to 'update' did not reference it. So, I downloaded it and simply extracted the files to my mush directory. Now I have lost my layout and all of my plugins and I want them back. This has been my issue the whole time.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: I am sorry but you learned the lesson of "no backup before upgrade"
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: See, that's far more helpful, I've asked a couple times if I'm screwed and just needed someone to say yes or no
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: since we do not sit next to you it is hard to determine that
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Nokian, u need to make s subfolder called r1748 itself under the main directory call mush. Then u unzip the files into r1748 folder u made earlier. 
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: after u have done all that, copy the aardwolf.db into that folder
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: its all in the website in case u need reference
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: those should be included on the faqs on the site imo kinda tricky to find :p
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: yeah, I make a tab to my favourite 
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: nod bookedmarked it myself
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: very important site tat one
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: how would one got about using keys for 'i' in 'for i in dictionaryOne' to count the total keys in the dictionary (python)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: i was already going to just use a var += 1 but i dont know how to pull just the keys out of the dict
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am enjoying Bast's CP Window, but I have noted that it always leaves off the top target (always one less than 'CP Check')
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: do you have  at the end of your prompt?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: @w at the end of your prompt
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I actually know I don't, because I ran out of colors (max 20, I think) so that might be it... lemme try
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just for raw color
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you also need a %c at the end of it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: nope.. I do have it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: after the last color code
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hmm... I have white twice on my prompt, and once on my bprompt
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have a %c at the very end of your prompt?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wow i was at least close to a right answer for once :)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: odd... I keep adding %%c to the end, but it doesn't show in 'p data'...  but shows multiple times in the "prompt set to..." message
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thats with only one %, btw
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ahhh... the game auto-adds the last 
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: now that we verified that... how do I get CP Mini window to re-look at my campaign data?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: reinstall plugin?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type cp check
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: or kill a cp mob
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: will try all of that (cp ch didn't pop-up the window after 'reinstall')  thanks for the help... I will fiddle with it for a while.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just do what Bast said ignore me.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: on a different issue, MUSHClient didn't seem to come with any intregal help files.  Generates a "not found" error.  are those available for DL somewhere, or do they not exist?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorddillon Tech: best gaming windows
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorddillon Tech: best gaming windows?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: vonliege, try echo Commander Barcett tells you 'Type 'campaign info' to see what you must kill.'
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: excelent suggestion, but no :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there any way to stop programs lurking on the side of a workspace? I keep pressing enter when switching workspaces on Ubuntu 12.04, and something gets done. Like a system update I hadn't called for.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Does anyone do scripting in python?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I use python.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Awesome :)  Do you have a python equivalent to the default #alias{}{} alias?  Seems like one would have to create addxml.py
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I use some Python but not in MC.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: that's what the #alias garbage is?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: no, I program my clients.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I don't*  
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I guess that's how it works under the hood when I go look at it.  Looks like there is an addxml.lua
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: which is called in the #alias alias
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm beginning to suspect that Steam sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: with it's sometimes-not-connecting, sometimes needing to be reinstalled for no readily apparent reason, and it's sometimes plainly forgetting all the game settings and keybindings
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never had that kind of issues
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I guess steam took a page from microsoft.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, steam doesn't manage game settings and keybindings
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's been since this "steam cloud sync" bollocks
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, it's just backup saves n stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it syncs to the cloud, not the other way around
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it does a great job of screwing up
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it doesn't do what you think it does
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're right, it doesn't work very well period
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it just syncs your stuff so you'll have the settings when you install the game some time in the  future after uninstalling and removing the local files
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: constantly updating itself, validating files for no reason, failing to initialise, failing to connect, failing to launch
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's like it was bought out by Oracle or something
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: sounds more like something got messed up during the update?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sucks to be you. never had problems like that
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'd never admit it even if you had
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. why?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: used steam for years, have 100+ games on. only thing i would complain about is the web interface being sluggish
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most likely they're just not testing updates on XP based systems
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, and news window popping up when i launch a game. that's annoying sometimes
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, that might explain it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: you're complaining about performance on a deprecated system?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not a performance issue
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and it's not a deprecated system
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, because liking windows 7 is too mainstream for him
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp sucks. just upgrade
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, how about "no"?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: xp is nice, but it has different libraries than newer versions of windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp was nice only compared to vista. it blows compared to 7
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Dag, you know why MS releases a complete lemon OS every once and a while? So people go hey this one works. :P Vista just managed to make Win7 seem like a positive step. Me did that for XP :P
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. nt kernel did that for xp
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: tiger - XP has different versions of many libs and handles many networking and storage operations differently from vista, 7, and 8.  
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp is old and outdated. end of story
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm aware of that, atlanta, the appropriate thing for Steam to do was to produce a new version for 7/Vista and leave the old version alone with features
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not update for the hell of it and screw half their users up
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the bugs/exploits?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Hell, vista could have been avoided just by mainstreaming WinXP x64 :P that was the last OS I actually thought MS moved in the right direction on.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I would never go back to XP.  XP didn't have support for a lot of stuff, making it hard to cobble together stuff.  Win7 makes networking essentially a plug-n-play feature now.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bugger the bugs/exploits, it's got far more now as a result of the change
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: W7 was released in 2009, XP in 2001
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if we're lucky, a point might follow
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: tiger - either way, this is the internet, you should be able to find a pre-cloud-update installer :)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, and you can disable steam cloud
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's speculation that it's what causes it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, tbh xp sp3 was released in 2008 and it included some libs and features from vista
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't think anything modern would work properly on sp1/2 any more
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and it shouldn't either. waste of resources
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: Xp was a good operating system. the best there was and by far was untill Win7 came along. Vista was a Win7 wanna-be since The tech was not that good at the time vista was made. It was a epic fail. win7 though fixed that
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vista was w7 pre-alpha. w7 beta was better and more stable than vista sp1 and sp2
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well it's always heartening to see the m$ fanclub in town
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really changes nothing though
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's how it always is with MS.  Epic fail followed by small/bigger/epic success, repeat to when MS goes out of business.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: boo-hoo. enjoy using your 12 year old os
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I have lost a miniwin off the top of my screen (and my bast main miniwin!)  -- anyone know how to fix?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: anyone know how to reset the position of the search and destroy window?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: you can try window, tile vertically, or something?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Yeah that's for the whole window pane
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Simple solution: remove all the plugins and the window disappeared!
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ever feel like your gambling all or nothing with you PC when windows does an update?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Ontuct.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: <-- still runs windows NT
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: windows did an update and my bio-scanner stopped working... I don't remember my password. That was fun to recover from. Stupid windows...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I love the pirates plugin because I can type "pirate map"
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sneaky Microsoft. I took me 6 clicks and 6 screens to de-active automatic renewal of Xbox Live Gold.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there a way to "bookmark" with the GMCP mapper so I can run to that named room?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: if you know the name of the room, mapper find roomname
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydali Tech: Ok, this is bugging me. I'm trying to install a few plugins, but when I enter the folder for them, the only thing shown is a folder called state. Nothing else is there. What can I do to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: how are you trying to install the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydali Tech: From the plugins menu. The Shift+Ctrl+P one. I think that's the only one. Anyways, I have your plugins ready in the spot it's supposed to be in, but, as I've stated, nothing is there.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and you are using the "Add" button?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydali Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydali Tech: I got it working. So, yay for that.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "\\\print(GetInfo(60))", what does it say?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what was the problem?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydali Tech: Apparently, a second copy of the client was installed in the same area, and it went there for the plugins, which weren't there.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: q r
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: in response to the latest tech board note.. i'm like 99% sure that that is not true...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wait wait wait
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i was thinking cmud, not zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is there a way to program mob locations into MUSH ?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it requires you to make a new db (hacking the mapper is a bad idea)
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: you don't need to hack the mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you CAN do it, not real sure that anyone actually has.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: just associate mobs with rooms, and let the mapper do the rest of the work
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: how do i associate a mob with a room?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: you'd need to write some lua to do that bit.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is there any of it online for dl?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: not that I know of.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: so i'd need to make a script basically?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: wouldn't be too hard to write, i'd say
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: the time-consuming part would be populating the database
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at A Giant Kraken.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i don't know any lua other than * is wildacard lol
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i dont mind doing that bit it's the coding idk how to do
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: you'd probably want to write something that automatically added mobs when you went in rooms
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ... that's not Lua.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: all i've got is a runto replacement that uses the mapper instead of aardwolf builtins
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: so would i need a script to link mobs to rooms or how would it work??
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Here's the thing.  People will (and already have) given you the basic outline of what you want.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: They are not going to write it for you.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: if i could be bothered, i'd have already written it for myself
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what you are asking for seems somewhat unnecessary...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at Jhav, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you have the rooms in the mapper, what you want to do is search the mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: how do i search the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: mapper find <roomname>
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are you using mush? if the answer is no, i cannot help you
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: yes i am using mush
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: mapper area "something"
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: take the time to read mapper help, it's very very easy to read and very straight forward
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: will do
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Wait, I just realized he has me ignored, so it doesn't matter what I say :P
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, not exactly helpful to have people on ignore when you're asking for help
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Well, my 'help' would have been to tell him to get off his lazy behind and learn some Lua if he wants a script...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: not like he would have gained anything from what he said anyway :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: So perhaps not useful to him, as I know he wouldn't put himself to the effort.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: or, you could bribe someone to write it for you with something
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think it's useful to be told that you cannot expect other people to write such involved things
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: not since winkle got chewed out for it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's one thing to say "what's wrong with my syntax" or "my script seems to stop working here, any ideas"  ... not "so, i'd like XXXXXX, tell me how to script this"
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: programmers will always have the edge on here so i applaud winkle
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: This would be a step WORSE than Winkle, really.  
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i realise that but im a script newbie, never successfully written scripts or lua stuff before and last time i tried i failed miserably, i cant code
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: True
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: a 2013 game is not supposed to make you read anything.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: looking for some help as to where to start
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: this *isn't* a 2013 game.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: not even close.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just yank their chains a bit.  If someone's going to talk in code, then I'll generally respond in code because they're usually explaining what's going wrong and such.  If they talk in plain text, I'll take the time to write out reams of text in response showing them how to do X without ever giving them any code.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: but there is even difference between one plain text and another. you'd need a super judge to figure it out
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this is a late-90s game with an established record of dominance in a niche market.  We're just too big to go unpopular.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: im surprised no one says RTFM directly anymore :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's implied.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I say it to myself all the time
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I provided the manual :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i know and i said directly
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's more fun when you wasted the telemarketer's time by keeping them on the line longer than they want to be.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: blood was selling something ? :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: my uncle once had one on the phone for half an hour, leading him on the whole time.  Finally got down to brass tacks, and he refused to buy anything.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we don't talk to him anymore, since he was hired by said telemarketer the next day.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: what's the use of winkle winkle's s+d plugin if gq and cp mobs are no hunt?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: how will you know the use if you dont try it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: rtfm
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i have rtied it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: the auto hunt failed trying to do some 'xmapper move' shit
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: and that was for quest mob
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: help hunt trick
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: if i use it on cp or gq mobs it says 'you cannot hunt that target'
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: his issue is that the extended runto and crap isn't working for him
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i know about hunt trick but i cant see what use such an extensive plugin is if its just for q mobs
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and the hunt trick isn't designed to take you to the mob, it's designed to identify which of multiple mobs with similar short names your mob is so you can where it and go to it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: auto-loop through the 1. 2. etc so you don't have to
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nod  u just said rtfm and  just now spoon fed him :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't use snd for anything other than it searching the database for my qmob
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: can't help myself... sometimes the helplessness is like that poor dirty kid in the infomercials
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: anybody know how to get my password out of my playerfile for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i figured it out once, it's in asterisks in client itself
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: cause i misplaced my password sheet
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Not sure if it's stored in plain text or not, but open the .mcl file in notepad, and check there.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ....you keep a password sheet...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: my passwords aren't mnemonic ever
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i might remember it correctly though
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: will do daesil, i'll try it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's stored in the world mcl file, and iirc it's base64'ed.  Probably wrong, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Your password? Yes, it's in the .mcl file, and  you'll need something like http://www.base64decode.org/ to view it.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: u could  always sniff the traffic as it passes over inet in plain text :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Also true
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: and then  set up email so imms can send u a replacement pass and that would be easier
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i haven't kept asteady email account in 10 years
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is a silly move
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: so ialways kept it blank, i'll set it up once unfrozen though
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Once again, you are chastised for using logic and rational thought, Vanion.  These are not approved concepts.  ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: then ur a shady character :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is it normal to have 'You seem unable to hunt that target for some reason.' when using any kind of auto hunt (bast/winkle winkle/etc) for cp+gq mobs?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Aardweapons don't have stat mods. However, they have the MAXIMUM possible damage for any weapon of that level. Also, they have hr/dr bonuses. (see help quest items for help on all stats on all quest items- very useful helpfile.)
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is it normal to have 'You seem unable to hunt that target for some reason.' when using any kind of auto hunt (bast/winkle winkle/etc) for cp+gq mobs?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: help hunt trick
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i think that's how it identifies which room it's in
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You've done over 1.3k campaigns.  Please tell me you know these things :P
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is there a way to then runto that room?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're using the Aardwolf Mushclient package, learn how to use the mapper.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: the help files are technical and confusing
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is it possible to link mobs to rooms using notes?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You know, that's just plain lazy.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: wtf?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: im trying to learn
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You might have to read some "technical" stuff.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're a tier 5 and you haven't learned where mobs are yet?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i tried, i couldnt understand so im asking here
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i have but i want to know for gq's and cp's
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are coming at this all backwards... if you want to automate, you either need a premade solution, or you NEED to learn to code. But of course, you have me on ignore, so I guess you will just keep on asking all the wrong questions...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Vakieh Tech: You are coming at this all backwards... if you want to automate, you either need a premade solution, or you NEED to learn to code. But of course, you have me on ignore, so I guess you will just keep on asking all the wrong questions...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: im sick of getting like 2 or 3 mobs before ixle or one of the other aces wins the gq and i dont even finish it after being by no means slow
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Scars, please don't do that :-( Could be considered a breach of the ignore rules to have a proxy relaying what I say
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sure, everyone else cheats, it's not that they're better
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: eh, if that's a breach of the rules, i accept whatever the consequence... it wasn't hateful, spiteful, whatever...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I read some "technical and confusing" stuff though.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It wouldn't be you who gets in trouble for it :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you didn't ask me to do it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So you just need to decide which is worse, losing gq's or learning.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: so i leave the tech channel even more confused than i was to start, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You're welcome! :D
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Our work here is done.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle bows deeply.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: 42, that's the answer.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok so i figured out 'mapper area <text>' will search the current area for the text string then give a list of room's with room id's and i can then use 'mapper goto' to runto that room right
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: however
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Oh nice!  I didnt know that -- very helpful!
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: when i make an alias 'map *' as the alias and 'mapper area %1' as the send the mud doesn't understand it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is it set for execute?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: have you tried putting it to send to execute
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: that's better :)
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And that's how the tech channel works :)
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday nods at Ixle.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there an easy way to get the mapper to go to the top hit after mapper area?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Click on it.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: without that?  I don't like the mouse :P
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you read mapper help all?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: mapper next
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper goto <vnum>
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Mapper next!
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I did -- I looked under "moving" but it was under "searching"
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is there a way to delay the timer on the mapper cexit command?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: thinking of sand castle after you say i wish to see the genie
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: read the mapper help it will tell you
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: or as others would put it "RTFM"
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Hey, tech types. Are there portable little radios that you can get xm tied to? 
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Lemme rephrase for clarity. I'm gonna rehike the Appalachian Trail pretty soon and I'd like to have xm radio for listening to baseball while I'm away. 5 months, Georgia to Maine. anybody know?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yeap, lots here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Are+there+portable+little+radios+that+you+can+get+xm+tied+to%3F+
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Wow, that was actually pretty cool, getting my question to type itself out in google. Not sure how you did it, but it was impressive.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: magic