T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kokurai: 'mitt romney should have been president'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'will israel ever go to war with iran or vice versa?  Ezra 9:9 (for they are so irreligious) For we were slaves, but in his unfailing love our God did not abandon us in our slavery. Instead, he caused the kings of Persia to treat us favorably. He revived us so we could rebuild the Temple of our God and repair its ruins. He has given us a protective wall in Judah and Jerusalem.'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'israel is a pussy when it comes to iran'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'further, http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/world/middleeast/documents-illuminate-jewish-life-in-ancient-muslim-empire.html?_r=0'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'That would be a nasty war and would lead to a World War, no doubt.'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'then, Mark 15:2 And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto him, Thou sayest it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'Israel can't fight Iran succesfully, they can just goad the US into doing it for them'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're trying'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Correct.  Israel might be superior with their infantry, but as an overall military, they can't compete.'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so jesus, didn't say 'I am' there, further, John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'isreal would probably win'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'Israel can't project force'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but ezra 9:9 indicates that jews became the servants of persia, which is modern iran'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but it'd not be a walkover like beirut'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'lets be real TN, they could utterly destroy Iran but they couldn't win a war of attrition'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and allowed them to rebuild their temples and follow their religion'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'iran would almost certainly fight dirty if attacked'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the zionists anyways, this is something i keep in mind, i don't know if in fact it is true or not'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'no such thing as fighting dirty I'm afraid'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'anyways = maybe, it's all interpretation and speculation to me - i assume that iran and israel work together, and only prostrate as opponents for their mutual gain'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't think they'll be helping each other'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but i noticed things like obsolete aircrafts and things reported from iran, sanctions etc, so i could be wrong'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i seen pictures of jewish rabbi's, and noticed that jews do also live in iran though, as they have lived in the middle east before and after the bible was written'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not many of em, but tehy are there somewhere'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they did arrest people for having buddha statues on display in a shop there not so long ago'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'apparently not allowed to advertise other religions'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'iranian religious freedom only applies to muslims wishing to express Islam in the proper Islamic ways (cartoons of Allah or Muhammed, very bad juju)'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they do persecute other religions to an extent'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'for instance, if iran hated israel so much, the concept of it, then why would operation overlord where leaders of britain/russia/america be held in tehran, against the nazi's , who are historically the worst thing that ever happened to them (modernity)'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i have seen iranian's posing as nazi's on chat forum's before though'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'iran's current situation is due to american/usa interference in 1950s'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'eh, Israel didn't exist until after the Nazis.'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'a kissinger quote, real or not, aught my eye once, along with a jewish chess player who retired in iceland'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'regarding the USSR and of what consequence'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'since most of these here electronics are manufactured in communist countries, and are increasingly being integrated into every aspect of government and civilian interaction, from education to hello, seeing re-education programs and a survivor who knows the importance of knowledge of cambodia's unfortunate incident recently (from what i seen) holding some form of government office, would it be beyond possibility, that one of the conveniences of converting everything through these electronics, is to eradicate knowledge in the long run?'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i've noticed public library's coming under attack for instance, laptops being used/tablets instead of paper text books, inlcuding tax-returns etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'one good reason to at least make sure a real nationlist is monitoring the creation of these devices and their interconnectivity'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'cattle was only an example, imagine life as a cow'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '(just some things that made me consider it from) Professionals and intellectuals  in practice this included almost everyone with an education, or even English-speaking people or people wearing glasses (which, according to the regime, meant that they were literate). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21410362 another reflection, "We really can't go about without it, all our life depends on it," '
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'technology might be convenient, but it may also be malevolent, even unintentionally, like 'saving paper' for online tax-returns, or saving some chemical from film camera's (environment stuff)'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so it's always comforting to know that a -real-, non-globalist, non-fake is overseeing it, a think-tank that thinks within borders'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'an opinion-fluff-piece by some nobody-reporter is not exactly a great reference weblink, especially if there are adverts to bloat the article'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'which one's fluff besides me?'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm just a observer'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'reading of what people went through and other things'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.amazon.com/Dumbest-Generation-Stupefies-Americans-Jeopardizes/dp/1585427128 here's also some author writing a book about how smart technology's making people'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm just wondering why, for debate with those things in mind, i guess if it is strategy, nobody would want to discuss the end game though'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'finding the players is also not too easy'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'since it's based mostly on evaluation of information sources, not all of which are directly witnessed'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'don't say "smart" if you mean "dumb" --- am not interested in lame attempts at sarcasm'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'vat - value added thought'
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'significant, 'sign if i cant''
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'who would have equated meaninful with disability'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'was albania the only 'communist nation' to be constitutionally atheist, as it was the first in recorded history?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's something people associate with communism now, allowing tolerance like theocratic dictatorships to spread'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't think one neccessarily garners the other though, seeing how problems sometimes present themselves'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'even singapore, sonshi's homeland of total defense and peaceful multiculturalism, has people protesting infestations of .. probably a certain demographic'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'some people said the other day that japan has one of the best policy's about certain demographics, i understood what made them think that way'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You won't find a country without prejudice, but if you are lucky, you can live in a country where the government does not prejudice against race or religion. But those are not that common either.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Am I wrong in thinking that racisim will never die unless we have a global totalitarian society and that it is not really worth it to that end?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's true, but i think the government should at least put aside 'being nice' for regulating their populations, the more suspect they are as a group, the more regulation seems required, don't you think?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I mean litterally NO racisim'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the safety of the whole should even be understood by the benevolents among the minority being scrutinized'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah i understand all that in the world and am not a part of it, right'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I think the American system of handling racisim does a decent job. And I say this as an American who doesnt have a whole lot of expeierence in how it is handled exactly in other developed nations'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Prejudice against religion is probably higher in the US than any other civilized country. Unless you are a christian.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I think it could be better, but I also thing that things like affirmative action are too far reaching and a bit outdated.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'not really, i have a ready example in memory - trayvon martin for instance received not only national mention for months, but international as well - but consider this kansas boy, http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teenagers-poured-gasoline-boy-walking-home-school-set-fire-cops-article-1.1033062'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'here 'affirmative action' is making sure that blacks are always the victims of oppression, and never light white kids on fire or otherwise mutilate them, like they had done in africa among other places, recently a canadian charity worker in tanzania for instance, killed by machete - which was (from what i read) how they slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people in the rwandan genocide'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the media steps around muslims and blacks as having their own epidemic racisms, taught in churches and wherever else'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but if 2 white's gather together it's a hate-group that is scorned by the amsses'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so there is definitely something screwed up with the system, not saying any or all are angels, but there's alot of tweaking that should be done'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'otherwise, how can one condemn the actions of retaliation, in light of the other without judgement'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'also, a homosexual reporter on cnn was trying to justify the ations of that cop from la'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'african homosexual, that's not what reporters usually do is it?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I think that racisim is sort of a natural thing that has to do with culture. No amount of legislation will get rid of it completely. For example the 1st ammendment of the constitution allows for free speech that is protected. I would not want to change that for anything but it is a thing that allows for that culture to continue to exist. I believe however that it is possible for global culture to evolve to the point where issues of race are nonexistient. Think of an earth society in the future that is focused on colonizing other planets in the galaxy. Of course this would probably only lead to earthlings practicing racisim on beings from other plantets while being unified as planet here on earth.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i understand part of his manifesto was regarding police corruption, but intertwined in it's wording was hints at a racist agenda, and also he mentioned the movie django unchained in it of all things as 'being sold on it''
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Why does it matter to you that the reporter was gay?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Oh the Chris Dorner guy was also pro gun control and an Obama supporter. Not saying that has a whole lot of meaning considering that his actions spoke way louder than his words. But notice how the mainstream media even right leaning news like FOX never reported on that. Most put up an "edited" version of his manifesto'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'why?  because i find it odd that so was anderson cooper'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and homosexual marriage is making international news in sweden and france and all over the place'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'It is? I live in sweden, nobody cares here. Even the church is ok with it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'It did not suprise me one bit that Anderson Cooper is gay. He is way too handome of a man at his age to not end up married to a woman while being straight.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and in california they're teaching homosexual history to schoolchildren, by mandate of the government, which outlawed therapy to combat homosexual psychology as an option for parents or people with tendencies'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Ah, I see now. You are homophobic.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm not scared of homosexuals, that has nothing to do with it'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Then why do you care so much about who is gay and not? It is not important.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's alot of real-issues that could make the news beyond 'proving that homosexuality is natural physiological and not psychological' while teaching it and normalizing it in media and school to even children'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'And of course kids should be taught how homosexuals have been mistreated in the past.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's a difference between accepting choices of adults that don't directly impact your life and having them indoctrinated into you think this way or you're a racist'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I'm what could be considered a "homophobe" by that definition as well Ranrr. I don't really condone a homosexual lifestyle but only on a personal level. I am against any legislation like DOMA that stands in the way of gay rights. All people deserve equal rights even those I may not agree with.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Well, at least you know you are a homophobe.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I sure do'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'And, BTW, teaching things to kids is not indoctrination.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tharnin: 'It's also not-not indoctrination. Depends on how it's done.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that goes against almost everything the jews teach about the nazi youth'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'True. '
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Teaching kids about gay history is not. But teaching kids that they can "be gay" at an early age might be.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'do you think developing minds are not influenced by the stimulus they consider?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Teaching kids that it's ok to be gay is good. '
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that would be the most ignorant stance on educative philosophy i've ever perceived'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I sure hope so, otherwise teachers are wasting time.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you can teach people to tolerate other's ability to choose'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but raising children should still be the parents job on ethics and morals, i believe'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Snooky is agreeing with that Rabshakeh person again...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I think it's everyones responsibility.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'plus what real world experiences they encounter which shape who they are, regardless of what you force them to think'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Morals should definitely be discussed in schools.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'By that logic Ranrr what if beasiality was culturally accepted by the majority? Would it be okay for our public schools to teach our kids that we can fuck and marry cats?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'a consensus on not breaking the rules of the school, sure - social studies is largely biased'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yes, Snooky.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Fortunately, it's not.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'And, technically, you cannot teach morals, only discuss them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The River Styx: 'don't say 'fuck and marry cats' too loud or you will attract Fanto'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You can teach laws and rules, not morals.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the propaganda machine is in full swing again trying to take down the internet and force people onto a sanitised new internet where the government censors and controls, where you need an ID and permission to use'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Mayor Bloomberg is under the impression that the USA can borrow an infinite amount of money, and that banks would never stop lending to it'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the xbox 720 will also require 24/7 internet access to function.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The River Styx: 'that was rumored about the ps4 too, turned out false'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The River Styx: 'anything you read is rumor till they officially announce'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, but microsoft isnt sony....we all know how they love to control you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The River Styx: 'we will all know in april, so no use in debating rumors'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Winter hurricanes are getting stronger.  A winter storm off the coast of Ireland in January 2013 was as strong as a Cat4 hurricane.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'a dorsal fine. like a shark or a dolphin.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'how did that end up here'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'man, this is why I keep dying'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'does c++ destructors have anything to do with actually destroying the data from returned functions?  i never learned that language at all , but i remember that with the stack at least, not 64 bit registers, you could still reference the contents of the variables created in the returned function until overwritten'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'destructors are for freeing data that has been allocated on the heap, so it can be used again.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ok, ty - i vaguely remember the heap, memory management'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'Otherwise, on a long running program data will accumulate and eventually fill the heap, which will cause the program to crash.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i like assembly programming still, it helps to understand all of the ways the other languages work'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Federal tax revenue from oil and production is the 2nd largest revenue generator after income taxes on individuals and businesses.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'oil and gas production that is.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '15 to 20 million years ago, the oceans had 3-4x more life forms compared to today.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'which is one of the reasons why oil companies started exploring the oceans for oil deposits.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Thanks to new technology in seismic detection, ocean drilling for oil has gone from 1 in 15 success rate to 1 in 4 today.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and the efficiency rate for drilling for oil on land and on ocean has increased to 55% from 35%....so older oil and gas fields can produce much longer.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the increase in find rate of ocean drilling is extremely bad news for the human race, since the greedy are likely to pollute the planet and deplete the oil reserves much sooner, while also increasing global warming perhaps leading to global scorching much sooner'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57572207-38/dhs-built-domestic-surveillance-tech-into-predator-drones/'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'bollocks to global warming, this is far more important'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the heating from the sun is projected to slowly increase over the next milliuon years'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'with incresed global warming, anticipate increased violent weather, higher sea levels, and drastic changes to ability of farmers to grow and supply food'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts yawns.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the best years in the US were during the 1960s and 70s.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'superduper technology may seem great, but that techology is usually either extremely limited to a few  or extremely costly in resource usage -- the overpopulated world is may not be able to handle drastic upsets (without drastic population readjustments (aka famine and deaths))'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'perhaps the 50s also'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'probably'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'has always been thus'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the minimum wage was enough to provide a living in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it hasnt kept up with inflation though, and is now not even close to a living wage.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'surely the poor USAmericans are not as poor as the poor in India'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not relevent'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'surely the poor British are not as poor as the poor in India '
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'still not relevent'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Tigernuts is obviously concerned about Robocop Skynet scenarios '
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'more worried about invasion of privacy and the orders of magnitude more likely and more serious mistakes being made'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'especially with Barack Obama violating the constitution and running a death-squad to kill alleged terrorists'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'more likely the witch'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Coal production and burning for energy has almost doubled in India and China, accounting for a 60% increase of sulphur dioxide into the atmosphere.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the man wannabe'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'which witch '
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Janet Not A Man Napolitano'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the gangster of DHS'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Shell Oil is building a new oil vessel/platform that can drill down 35,000 feet'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I wonder if anyone has tried funneling energy through the diferent kinds of crystals on earth yet....or precious stones, etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'usuually'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'talk about torture....a guy in Texas dug his own water well....by hand.....20 feet deep.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'brave guy'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '20 feet deep, and 6 feet wide.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why so big?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'for safety reasons.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'boring not safer/quicker?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he uses a 22 foot ladder to get to the bottom of it, and fills up 5 gallon buckets with water using a cup.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'because he is nuts ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sounds like it'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no offense of course. :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'get a footpump or anything!'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he lives off grid in 2 insulated 40 foot long shipping containers'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'has solar panels, the whole setup.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doesn't want a water pump'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I personally wouldnt have chosen his location either.....no trees anywhere, so he must be somewhere west of Austin.'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you want trees'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'lots of em, preferably'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Book tip: Guns, by Stephen King. An essay on the gun control issue. Well worth reading (only 25 pages).'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'should have put it out for free, the guy is rolling in money'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Well, yeah. I got it for 0.79$ at audible, definitely worth it. '
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Put it out for free and at the end say something like sens a buck or two to the brady fund. I have no faith that it is not just more exploitation.'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Well, that's a whole different issue than gun control :D Not gonna get into that right now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'If an author wants to give away his works, or not, that's his choice.'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'OK, then I will. Aard-folk - Please send a buck or two to the Brady fund to help end the NRA backed insanity. Thank you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Donate 10 bucks or to to put an end to Arnica-backed stupidity!'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Texas senate has bill introduced to allow for the psuedo-forced vaccination of minors'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'BBC finally caught up with the 3d-printed gun parts article (only a couple of months after the fact) and painted it in typical BBC colours'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Fresh Prince of Bel-Air theme song prompts school lockdown'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the FDA operate a kangaroo court system, there is no jury, and you are assumed guilty until proved innocent'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all paid for via tribute. Exactly how can one expect a fair trial in that situation?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'why don't you ever source your claims, nuts?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's not a claim'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's how they operate'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'so i'll have to take your word for that?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can go look it up if you like, but we all know you won't'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'if someone cared about the stuff you're talking about it would be nice to give them a link so they could learn more'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'just like you refused to believe that Hitler disarmed the Jews until someone shoved it down your throat'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's not healthy'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and doesn't make any difference'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'it's still bullshit'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'oh, it's true but still bullshit'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts pats Seltsimees Dagnir on his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'go back under your bridge :-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'the "what if jews had guns" argument is bullshit'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'the french military had guns. the polaks had guns'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'back under your bridge, troll'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'pretty much every country in the ww2 had guns. who cares if the jews had guns. wouldn't have changed a fucking thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you know that holocaust denial is a criminal offence in some countries'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'so?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'go deny that, then'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'why would i?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you have trouble with reality'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'you have trouble with reading comprehension'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no issue with my comprehension'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'where the fuck did you get the holocaust denial, btw?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're denying that Hitler disarmed the jews as part of their subjugation and slaughter'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'no. i'm saying that the argument against gun control is bullshit'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'who is talking about gun control? was talking about a denial you made'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'sure, lets say hitler disarmed the jews. i they had had guns it wouldn't have changed a fucking thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but as a side-issue, the whole argument for gun control is bullshit'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'i'm just explaining my point to you since you have troubles comprehending it'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'your points are regularly head-burying morally vacuous bullshit'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'anyway, source your claims. otherwise you'll look like chemosh raving'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'describing how the FDA trial system works does not require sources'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'i wasn't even saying you were wrong about the shit you were talking earlier. just would be nice to get a source'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'so we should just assume that you're an expert on every subject you talk about?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i expect you to look it up if you were interested'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'i don't know dick about the fda trial system'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or if you took issue with it'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not that you're likely to be in a trial with the FDA'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '(unless you're a farmer, or in the food industry)'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'some of your concerns are serious and addressing real issues, it would be nice to source them. but most of the time you go on about obama being a secret gay muslim who wants to take all your guns (bb guns included) and rule a fascist dictatorship'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's your words put in my mouth'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'so sourcing would be nice for a quick way to check if you found something interesting or just bouncing off the walls'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'well, i could grep abe's logs and quote you on that again'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you would like to bring up two instances each of 1 "interest" pieces mentioned in the course of how many years of debate and claim that is me "always" bring it up?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'your grep will bring up far more numerous instances of you and yuna bringing it up than i ever did'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's called "trolling"'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'no, not really. cat 2012debate.txt | grep -Pc 'Tigernuts.+(O|obama|gay)' -> 595'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'i got 30'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'obama OR gay?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'did you think you could try and sneak that past people who understand how regex works?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts THWAPS Seltsimees Dagnir for being a moron.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'ok. so you think that obama is a christian, straight and born in america?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'why even grep anything when i could just ask you :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i suspect Obama is essentially non-religious, born in Hawaii, brought up in Malaysia, his sexuality is his own problem'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'If it was allowed in the US, obama would probably call himself an atheist. '
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'obama's religious affiliation is the least of america's problems'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yeah, being a general lying massmurderer is more of an issue.'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts grins evilly at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Not that it makes him different from any other US president.'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'different colour, different manner, same shit'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm mainly keeping my eyes on new internet legislation'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '(right now)'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'aren't you mad because obama mixed star trek and star was references?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he did? when?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'you were advocating the "look it up" tactic earlier'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'difficult to keep tabs really, given how half of what he says is collectivist propaganda, and the other half is lies'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'come off it, that's a bit vague, Dagnir'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'would be pretty cool if you could just click a link, right?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'odd that Iowa are having to pass legislation to LEGALISE raw milk'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'why is that odd?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'odd that it would be illegal at all'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'I don't think so'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'would you think it usual for eggs to be illegal?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'raw milk (i.e. unpasteurised) is much more risky'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'eggs are almost always eaten cooked'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'only if you have an overextended supply chain combined with poor standards'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'exactly'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so what you're looking for is some sensible regulation, not a blanket ban'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'I think a ban on raw milk is a sensible regulation'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'might as well ban raw meat'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'ban raw fish'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'see above regarding eggs'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're paranoid about raw milk, so nobody else is allowed it. I understand'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'new york's about banned selling game (deer meat from hunting, etc) - apparently if an animal isn't bred in captivity it's no longer good enough for America'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if that's true, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is, then that just further proves how fucking stupid the majority of Americans now are'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'I saw the article about the horse meat in taco bell, and laughed my ass off.  Wait till we have a soilant green moment'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nothing wrong with a bit of horsemeat, the whole complaint was bout labelling'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'the fear was that people would be eating meat with no idea where it came from, what contaminents it had, etc.  I'd argue that's more true that they'd care to admit today.'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'er, than'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'again, it's down to stupidity'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'people don't understand the food chain'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or nutrition'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'ignorance, not stupidity'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope, i'm not going with ignorance. Ignorance would imply they haven't been told'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'no it doesn't'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wtg arguing semantics'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'check the name of this channel'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Taokan points excitedly!
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you might as well argue against something on the grounds of spelling or grammar'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'to be fair though, ignorance and stupidity are two entirely different problems.  You can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink, and all that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'all too often, we have this naive hope that putting information in front of people will cause them to stop making bad decisions'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Vost was claiming people lacked knowledge regarding the quality of cheap processed food/fast food'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'I don't agree with that'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'ah, the straw man argument'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Same with people who smoke fags - they know smoking any amount of a long term will rocket up your chances of lung cancer'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's not ignorance, it's stupidity'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the horse knows the waTer is there'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'indeed - they choose to ignore it'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's not ignorance, that's stupidity'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'it's not necessarily stupidity'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'sometimes it's different priorities'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'noun: the state or fact of being ignorant'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'lack of knowledge, learning or information'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'take socialized healthcare for example - it may create a benefit for someone, but they still vote against it.  Why?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'stupid: lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not the same argument'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'maybe they don't want the government in their lives.  Maybe they respect the hard work of millionaires.  Maybe they have their own reasons.  But being against something that's "beneficial" to you does not automatically make you stupid'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'speaking of bad habits, I think I need to go feed my caffeine addiction'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nothing you've said about socialised healthcare is incorrect so far, though leaving out the elephant of "ending up with an inferior system", but it's not the same as situation as not knowing where your food comes from'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'there are more or less rational, intelligent people that hand out blind faith a little too generously - including to companies that prepare their food'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'people who are poor who are against socialised medicine will typically not be able to afford the tax hikes that would result of that care, or are against the straitjacket that it imposes on available healthcare, or are warey of the significant downgrades to healthcare that would result from it'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'naivity?'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A0IVSGctQIg'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8z1buym2xUM is pretty complete, if hilariously dated'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '7yr old Josh Welch was suspended for 2 days from school for shaping a food he was eating into a Gun shape '
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'parents go to the media, school won't comment because of 'privacy' reasons'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The River Styx: 'also known as 'dumbass' reasons.'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yup'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'welcome to the United States of Dumbass'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i wouldn't ever say such things wouldn't happen here, i remember having bulldog, skipping ropes and conkers banner'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but at least those were (apparently) agendaless overhyped health & safety vs insurance reasons'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, in and out burger has passed the $1 billion valuation level....the 30 year old owner is a billionaire.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'my lovely government are going ahead with some rather worrying plans to introduce secret courts (closed material trials) where the only people present are the judge and "specially assigned" attornies for the defence and prosecution'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all thanks to the US'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Tigernuts, you called the government "lovely", so you secretly approve of what the government did'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i called them lovely in the same way as i'd call you pragmatic, i.e dripping in sarcasm'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'you even thanked the USA'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Tigernuts seems to be the very model of an obedient servile modern quisling'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and you appear to require being attacked with a fire-based weapon to prevent hp regeneration'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"pragmatic" usually does not mean "dripping in sarcasm" -- unless on a comedy tour -- that is likely "pragmatic" if the "dripping sarcasm" draws in the customers - tough audience though, likely seeking blood'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're no comedian'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'lame attempts at comedy during a debate are bad debating form'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'this channel is doomed then'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'definitely not "loverly"'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the copyright laws overprotecting ip (intellectual-property) are destroying the archiving value of the internet'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'eventually the internet will be fully censored, and scrubbed, owned by governments, for which you'll need license to use'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'especially in the area of photographs and films'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i notice that you guys are not being given the option to opt out of Federal news alerts sent directly to your mobile phone'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'somebody at the BBC eradicated the old "Doctor Who" films -- then decades later some (the BBC?) attempted to hope that some old copies of the missing Doctor Who serial yet exited in the world somewhere while simultaneously demnanding that only horrid lowgrade copiues exits out there in the world (ostensibly to protect IP which somebody deliberately trashed at the BBC source)'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'all that supposed "protection" of Intellectual-Property is going to result in the loss of Intellectual-Property when the owner fies and owners estate possessions are trashed to the landfills and or incinerators'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '(when the IP owner dies)'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'those politicians are protecting their temporary political-contributions, and the CEOS are protecting their temporary profits -- they are not protecting Intellectual-Property for posterity'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is a rumor that the Library of Congress achives some informations -- but are the missing "Doctor Who" serials there'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'likely a myth, doubt if any single library is able to be physically big enough to store all the world's informations'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Wikipedia does a "song and dance" on the photograph enlargement pages, (obeissantly) stating how (most of) the photograghs are definitely of inferior grade (so as to not violate any copyright laws) -- so Wikipedia is mostly trash as a reference as far as photographs are concerned'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'what is particularly disturbing, is when a TV fan of old tv-serials and old movies attempts to look up information on the actors and actresses -- instead of the handsome and pretty photographs of yesteryears, the researcher is nauseated with horrid pictures of the old and aging actors and actresses'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'bah, 1426 billionaires worth a total of $5.4 trillion....200 more billionaires compared to 2012.....and the middle class get poorer and poorer.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'shock horror :-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'the number of billionaires increased from 1200 to 1400 in one year?'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'by the time the middle class finally gets the balls to do something about it, the war will be over and it will be to late.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's already too late'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, Jan 2012 to Jan 2013, the number increased by 200'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, voters can still do something about it, but they are too stupid to see the ticking clock in front of them.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pua: 'idk that voters have much power... considering the goverment is suposed to be for/by the people and it doesn't seem so much.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the only chance people have is to take back their government, they won't do that by voting'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i converse with people everyday, things aren't going to change because people are naive and/or ignorant'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pua: 'well who/what informs isn't.. or they are just numb.. and misinformed.. like we are as well. everyone lies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'naivity is the biggest problem, along with underestimation'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pua: 'maybe.. the more i know the .. the more i know i don't fucking know. i am among the naive'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the richest billionaire has $73 billion, and bill gates would be the top billionaire if he didnt give half his fortune to his foundation in the last 15 years.  He has $67 billion right now, not including another $40 billion he has given to his foundation.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'gates owns about 5% of microsoft now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/body-snatchers-310223.html jews murdering , removing the bones, skin and chopping the guts out of ukrainians'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '3/5 investigators are jewish names, they haven't found it yet in florida, where lasher is from'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'next time you get yourself some skin corpse surgery, remember who murdered your salvation for you'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'lizard people!'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'and btw, lasher is not from florida'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: ''moroccan IMF leader' http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/3/58745 'art for the homeless''
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'jews sank the titanic as well. y'know, iceBERG'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.artaz.gr/en/ARTIST/matina_kavalari.aspx?i=dubelieve do you believe in love?  that looks like a real reference to athensnews, artaz'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'wow, that's a human heart torn from a chest held in a hand'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6ttberg'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'israeli jew nuder chopping up some 75 tonnes of pork died to look like beef , except it was probably human meat'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they removed it from thelocal.se'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.thelocal.se/43840/20121016/'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/dominicanrepublic/3388611/Refugees-lost-at-sea-Eating-friends-tasted-like-beef.html good jesus, '
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'i think we have a new nutcase in town'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'nuts and chemosh, watch out'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'jews are angels of god, never think holodomor/dekulakization/the great purge , and even the holocaust was all orchestrated by them'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'although they were in charge of it all'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'hey, write history with fritz fischer while you're at it'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you can show the way things are to the non-jews'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i can see some good reasons why they would have been exterminated, since they don't root themselves otu like muslims'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i cheer on people like breivik and mladic, even though i don't agree with all their tactics'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'albania was a good atheist example to telling them to kiss their ass too'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Vost peers intently at Rabshakeh.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'peer all you want, i hate who i hate'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't not hate you cause of nothing, if you deserve it you get it'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm glad the world's got some results though, some progress has been made here and there'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: '"Only a man and a woman can beget a child together without advance planning, which means that opposite-sex couples have a unique tendency to produce unplanned and unintended offspring" is legalese for "heterosexual couples simply can't keep it in their pants"'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'rephrase to "heterosexual couples provide evidence that they can't keep it in their pants" '
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the early days of the aids epidemic was evidence that "homosexuals simply can't keep it in their pants"'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pua: 'early days of the aids epidemic was ignorance and yes gay sex is often about the sex..  but you can say that about almost any other transmitable decease.. even the doctors orginaly thought it was crazy to wash your hands to lower infection rates.. whats your point?'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so, heterosexual sex is not about sex... Interesting.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Pua, quoting the ignorance of medieval doctors invalidates what you said'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pua: 'medieval? it wasn't until the 1900s iirc and it really doesn't once educated people well... are smarter... '
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'aids didn't arrive in history books until 1976 or so, except they'll do a distant reference to 1932 or so, '
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'monkeyshines'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i read that it was the result of research on a polio vaccination applied to hamsters'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'rizgoth you blittler of me'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you can't even accept facts coming from somebody you hate'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'polio experiments were done on monkeys, who apparently had a virus: SR40 I believe it was.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'up yours too rizgoth'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you are a ubermensch to me, something to chop down over time'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'what are you blathering about now ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'go back to the lab.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what are you miscomprehending to respond to'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'get back to the furnace you dodging jehovah'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'careful, you are foaming at the mouth. Some might think it rabies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'vaccination for rabies is similar to polio, both developed by a canadian, such as myself'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or monkeyshines.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'canadians are supposed to be pleasant'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'captain kirk is.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'canadians also sent nasa to the moon and sunk the german uboats'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'in service to the queen, they took the wrong side i the war though'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'which war -- the British like to start and ot join wars'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I've heard thee queen got serviced a lot ;>'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'by a canadian donkey ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the monarchists are likely to blacklist Anaristos and Rizgoth'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'monarchists, monoorchids, they are all the same.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'unless Anaristos and Rizgoth meant Elton John'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne (after) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoderic_the_Great (my ancestor)'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I meant Lizzy, she's the head queen.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon (looks like a homo) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodoric_I,_Margrave_of_Meissen (looks like me)'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'gay ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'next you be attemting to claim that Adam and Eve were your ancestors'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that is half my family tree there'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm not french though, my great great grandfather fought against the allies in world war 1'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'on other side of the family'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'other 1/4 is russian/polish'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, not Eve :) Lilith '
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'h1n1 virus was also genetically engineered, they also engineer virus's to target specifically the elderly and infants that they test in hospitals'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it was first reported as returning from iraq on soldiers in washington hospital on abc news in 2007 or 2008, then released to the public'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'then in 2 consequtive years on january 11-15 they discussed modifying it and a new strain'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and I suppose your ancestor created it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's biochemical warfare that can wipe alot of people out faster though'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and you can testify to that :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i probably could invent alot of things like that if i put my mind to it'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i never seen any benefit from it though, and wouldn't want to be responsible for it'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'is it threatening that my mind can comprehend things'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you  can say that again.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i can figure out how to build all kinds of things'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i can teach myself anything'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I bet you play with your erector set :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i stick to my islamic lego's'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they're a better opponent'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'junior macgyver...'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/23/islamic-group-accuses-lego-of-peddling-racist-discriminatory-star-wars-playset/'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'provide a brief concise synopsis of that weblink -- (since i'm not going to risk getting infected by adverts)'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, a solar panel that can use 100% of the sunlight to produce power....'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the holy grail of power generation.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'perhaps the Darth Vadar storm-troopers in their white uniforms look like arabs'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I have always looked forward to the first perpetual motion engine...'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'it's called heat death'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I've also looked forward to the day I could ignore the second law of thermodynamics :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'That is close enough'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I want a matter replicator.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the laws of nature do not permit perpetual motion machines (other than electrons orbiting the nucleus, space particles unimpeded by obstructions, and other subatomic phenomenon)'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Except that all motion is perpetual unless acted upon by an external force...'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"perpetual unimpeded motion"'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'saome neutrinos are likely pretty good perpetual unimpeded motion, at least until they hit and react with something'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some neutrinos are likely pretty good at perpetual unimpeded motion, at least until they hit and react with something -- which is odd, in that photons like to be stopped, but neutrinos do not'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the laws of classical physics do not apply to quntum particles operating in a gauge field. They can violate conservation laws for small amounts of time.'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'in fact, that's how particles "move" in space-time, by violating conservation laws :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'woo, the world's largest mall, in China is 99% empty.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'I thought the largest mall was in UAE'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'not anymore.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the Mall of America is 100% full, the Mall of China is 99% empty.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'that might explain the current predicament'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The mall of china was built in a province that is mostly factories and migrant workers who barely make enough money to survive, let alone enough to go to a stupid mall....'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Ack! Who shot J.R this time !?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"Sin City" is a "Classic movie" (but only when viewed as the extended 2 disc DVD set, (with optional actual paperback comic book included, unread in pristine condition)). "Sin City" (the movie) is based on Frank Miller's "Sin City" comic. The movie was directed by Robert Rodriguez & Frank Miller, with special guest director Quentin Tarantino.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'that said, the movie was slightly marred with one excessive goriness, several plot deficiencies, and a few inadequate plot endings'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the *actual* laws of nature likely do not violate "the law of conservation of mass and energy" locally, (disregardless, paranormal activity may be an exception, notwithstanding).  The inadequate "laws of (classical) physics" parroted by pedantics are obviously defective (as indicated by their parroted confessions that nature seemingly disregards those inadequate laws at the quantum-buzzword level).'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'That's how god designed it :P'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, the ancestor of the camel today lived in the Canadian arctic, and was up to 40% larger, and weighed close to 2000 lbs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so humans actually evolved from yeti's and rode wooly-camel's to africa'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I would like a wooly donkey....'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The location and age of the bone fragments indicate that the camel lived at time when the planet was 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit (3 degrees Celsius) warmer than it is today, when parts of the Arctic were covered in coniferous forests filled with larch and birch'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's neat huh, how they find plant matter underneath 100 feet of ice and stuff'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'our planet has lots of mysteries we have yet to discover.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'cool about camel's though, i wonder how they ever arrived at two  places at once'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they're not known for their swimming across ocean abilities'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Well, the ones in africa and the middle east were probably living there when the continents started to drift apart.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and the parent species was split.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'that story sounds far-fetched -- as though some wannabe is talling shaggy camel stories to get attention for a badly scripted documentory on some ratings-seeking cablechannel'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, continents moving makes kind of sense, but .. how did the unicontinent start , and what force would bust it apart after forming it'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, the continents continue to move today, and in a few million years they will be back together as a super continent....has happened many times in the past.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the continents moving though is a good thing....saved the planet from a snowball effect, when the earth was completely covered with ice.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'while watching some of those "documentaries", some of the language used (by actors pretending to be accredited) attempted inaccurate excessive conjectures, and thus was grammatically inaccurate from a serious academic perspective'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kokurai: 'actually there is only one recorded evidence of there being only one super continent in.the history of the earth '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'actually, there are twelve.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'but which Federation Starship obtained that "only one" example of "recorded" evidence  (wink wink)'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'epic of gilgamesh apparently claims that 8000 years ago or so his people cross d the ocean and stuff'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so things like new international travel is probably a myth'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the pacific ocean might be the euphrates river, and the atlantic, the nile in some egyptian legends'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'in some perspectives of consideration'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'as there's those pyramids and similarities in structure'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'also was a kingdom called ur that they find ruins of in some places'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I would love to go back in time about 15,000 years and check out how low the ocean levels were in person compared to today....the gulf of mexico was practically non existent.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the bering sea in alaska was a land bridge back then.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'recorded history is almost always biasedly recorded, distorting the defeated reality, because most of it's about warfare'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or for some agenda of religious-like mind control'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Depsartment of Time-Travel likely won't approve that trip, since you asre likely to contaminate the timeline'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but i think things like they find in archaeology and earth science is neat'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'like an 80 foot long shark that hunted the world's oceans.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they find fossils of fish in most places where they mine potash too'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'large fish etc, indicating at some time at least a big lake sat where land is, if not great flood of the bible'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Republican economic theories of exploit-resources-as-rapidly-as-possible-until-there-are-none-fot-later are a recipe for disaster'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's true, things like potash and oil and uranium and other mineral's, where they are occassionaly, probably play a critical role in some earthly balance'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'anybody that believes in the biblical version of the great flood loses academic credibility'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'like one thing i noticed cause i was curious, is that where there is a desert, underneath is located no potash, unless a lake once stood over it'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so, for the idle mind, removing all the potash under a fertile land that isn't a desert might result in a desert in the future'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I just hope we never try to clone a dinosaur.....would hate to see some dinoclones escape and intermingle its genetic code with animals of today.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's alternative ways of going about agriculture than how they're doign today as well, which is the part that indicates intelligent destruction taking place'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'as though Risgoth believes that intermingling between species is rampant and widespread'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'also, not ironically, the alberta oilsands which are a big moneymaker, are located at almost the mouth of the largest river system in north america'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'indians there complain of mutant diseased fish, and they verified that there is alot of contamination happening'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'also birds migrating will land in a pool filled with tailings and die'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'lots of stories like that though, even from 1950's lakes going toxic'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'microbes were found in a lake 2800 feet under the ice in Antarctica.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'does Rizgoth approve of the Alberta mutations as a necessary evil so that the rich in the USA may become richer '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'woo, cut the littoral combat ship from the navy weapons budget....save $12 billion over 10 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Alberta is in Canada, and not in the USA'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"littoral" -- an odd label to name a combat ship program'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'boo, oil is at $89 a barrel.....need to get it back to $130 a barrel for US oil!'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'lower prices is what happens when they don't ration a temporary glut'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'failure to ration oil reserves is likely to encourage more population growth and them more demand for oil -- that oil is going to run out eventualy, and then billions commence starving and or dying'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the population in India started to increase only when food the supply increased -- more oil --> more food --> more populatiom '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'almost as though somebody is fattening up the world population numbers for the great slaughter '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'forbes had article saying tesla expected ordinized population control (death camps) by 2100'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Logan's Run'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Futurama suicide-booths'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'mankind used to depend on wars and plagues for population reduction'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'now the rich people who's only job is telling the slaves where to build the next castle for their hard earned tax money on lifetime investments will decide who live and dies'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or communist party leaders'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or priests of islam possibly, since it's spreading so fluently'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakah, don't be depressing with false conjectures '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what's unlikely about the people who chooses who lives and dies, don't they seem to be the most likely'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'less oil --> less food --> less population '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'accurate conjectures that describe the situation succinctly offer hope that a benign solution may be found'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'do you own the world's concept of wealth and methods of survival'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if not, then there is no solutions, so just accept the death of the future, and pray for world war 3'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'inaccurate conjectures muddy the view and are depressing'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm the most negative person i've ever met'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'you likely didn't recognise whether you met those that are more negative than you'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i haven't met a person who i can't detect the nature of yet'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'likely wrong there, Rabshakeh'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so what'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'you are more likely to mislabel those that are actively researching amidst the muck, as they are going to look muddy, and there is uncertainty whether they succumb to the mire or come out smelling like a rose (nah, bad analogy use to describe charismatic poliiucians) '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i only look for the bad in people, the good is more of a surprise then, because there's hardly any of that'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sometimes i see some good things though, i try to change my outlook here and there'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'everybody's my enemy, everybody'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'very important is the ability to speak accurately and succinctly, as that also sharpens the view  '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Twyst is headed off on horseback, looking for some sheep and some ass.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'i look at what the individual is, and likely to be -- be wary of inaccurate labels - mislabeling obscures the view'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they're the enemy is inaccurate?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they have to be ruled out first'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'depends what your purpose in life is -- facetiously: to be a failurwe or to improve the world'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'failure was enforced by the jews and muslims and other rulers of the world'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'enjoying the failure is the best part about it, maybe it'll give their souls some gangren'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'buddhists lighting themselves on fire or otherwise'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'cheering on their destruction, don't cry for their losses as they caused all yours'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'eventually, a wannabe improver of the world is required to realise that to improve the world benignly, the cooperation of as many as possible, perhaps everybody, may be required '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is a nucky mire out there'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's a pretend nuclear war looming in korea too'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they're just bluffing and won't even have any nukes shot at anybody'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and assad wouldn't chemical warfare all the muslim terrorists funded by the jewish ezra 9:9 america'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'hell if i'm going to go fight in some military draft korean war'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you can all go get sunk though'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i hope all the nukes they got in the world detonate in the next 20 years'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '1200 feet underground bunkers in some places'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'eneed to have some controlled bunker busting atomic bombs for those'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh, don't do an inaccurate irrelevant inflamatory "sky is falling" shtick -- the audience is likely to tune out your depressing paranoid remortely-hypothetical conjectures'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm just joking though, since you know that your pretend resolve is making you out to be a likely jew, who's father jacob is the father of lies'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"pot calling the kettle black" there, since that name Rabshakeh reeks semitic'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'he was assyrian messenger in the bible, i liked how he wanted the masters on the wall to eat their own shit and drink their own piss , ie the people who rule the world's concept of worth'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'using the word "shtick" is insufficient to label a debate participant as a jew'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if one is a nobody, and one desires to improve the world, one likely requires to be friends with nearly everybody, even those currently despised, and that likely means practice looking for the good in everybody, (while yet on guard as to how bad they may be)'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'practice exercise: also look for the good in others -- and conjecture as to how that goodness may be brought out without the badness. (but is that a fool's exercise)'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'look how wealthy elites detest union's which protect worker's rights openly, how is that different from racism'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how come there isn't a month long chinese hinstory month in canada, where they dynamited alot of the mountains for the railway'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but black history month is almighty, like having a governor general from haiti born during the reign of duvallier, who exterminated half-breeds and possibly had JFK assassinated for halting foreign aid'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'who's father was violent'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how about white history month, we can divide it up'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'here's ukrainian holodomor history month'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'here's the crimes committed on the germans after world war 2 month'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'here's egypt giving rwanda some machete's for genocide month'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how about send me some ammunition for my terrorist ak-47 month in war's in the middle east'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'muslims believe in a terrorist religion, but the middle-east muslim Arabs dole out some of the world's oil -- so the USA is diplomatic the middle-east Arabs'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'brokered by jews of course, who are despised by muslims for giving them so much freedom to spread in white countries'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'Zade you are a moron'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'as explained in ezra 9:9, who the jews serve - persian empire'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Twyst, explain or debate'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'research which regions that traversed and covered, it includes modern iran, which is highly unlikely ever going to go to war with it's biblical servants'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'what is a "terrorist religion"?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'operation overlord was planned in tehran, which really pretends to hate the jews, housing all kinds of them within itself and meeting with them in photographs, rabbi's of the faith'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Islam, from the perspective of the some of the population of India, is obviously a terrorist religion '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and thailand and philippeans and bangladesh'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and norway, where they want everybody who doesn't observe ramadan beheaded, in their new muslim schools in oslo'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and harvard university, where their muslim chaplain wants all apostates murdered'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the news is mostly owned by the enemy though, the entire media'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so don't expect them to ever contemplate real issues publicly'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they'd rather, do a 'jihad is a friendly thing' article on CNN'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/03/us/myjihad-campaign see it for yourself'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'yes cherry pick and paint with a wide brush'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you can look all this stuff up and see it on official news and history websites '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'there are 1 billion+ muslims worldwide'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'video etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and there's 6 billion left to enslave'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'keep fearing the boogieman'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'boogiemen are fictional like the ghost the boy sees before cujo in the movie'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.barenakedislam.com/2011/05/09/thailand-muslims-behead-a-9-year-old-boy-warning-graphic-images/'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'boogiemen don't decapitate 9 year old boy's in thailand for their holy writ'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Twyst, "you've been served!", how do you reply  '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'gory link, but that's the words that describe it, i'm not making it up - i ddin't do it nor do i support it, it's reasons that i hate certain 'sects' of people, maybe i should read a book on how to differentiate them , the sufi's sounded ok'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'somebody from India indicated that the Sufi are not that benign either'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there was an excellent website with a lot of historical perspective linking islamic terrorism to verses in the Koran -- (but the website disappeared - may've been too much copyright material on that website, since the website quoted heavily from a seemingly authoritative book)'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the author of the book (and the author of the missing website) are with official entries on Wikipedia -- so those two are famous'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'i may purchase the seemingly heavily researched authoritative book -- lots of dirt on Islam'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how come the international criminal court released not 1, but 2, warcriminals of crimes against humanity, who are currently running in kenya's presidential elections, but Ratko Mladic' is still in prison?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and the us warns albania against supporting serbian nationalism'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brujah: 'War criminals make the best presidents.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'albania was the first constitutionally atheist nation in history, until 1991'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they went on a similar pretext in ww2 lithuania'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what business does the USA have in serbia or albania'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or ukraine for that matter, i think All-Ukrainian Union "Svoboda" should be their new government'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'poor hugo chavez.....he died.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'don't worry, they'll get another el presidente who will be just as crazy'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'or potentially crazier'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'like the vp of venezuela?   He thinks that someone infected chavez with cancer. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'el vice presidente knows best!'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'which Whitehouse administration is likely responsible for the cancer infection'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'talk about a huge growth potential expanding wifi services to everything to inflate your cell phone bill even more.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they've got a similar service for the elderly'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, the phone companies are offering dozens of new services to inflate your monthly bill.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'might be a good time to buy some verizon and att stock. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'ATT customer service is going down the toilet best I can tell.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'when are most consumers going to wise up and cancel the services they do not require: texting, call waiting, call foewarding, internet, ... '
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I have never had a problem with their customer service.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'talking to them and getting stuff done is swell.  It's the whole getting them to communicate with each other that isn't working.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'humans stuck to their computer and cell phones is a social disease'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'i do get a lot of finger exercise playing Aardwolf'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'households headed by people under 35 years old, median debt fell by 29% to $15,473 in 2010, compared with $22,000 in 2007.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'means folk stopped buying shit, not that they took a good hard look at their spending habits and started making good choices.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'how many USA losers are afflicted with the $15k debt'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'which is bad for the economy, and good for them :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'bad for them in the long run, though.  Bad economies impact jobs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Then again, a reduction in buying crap you dont need is always a good thing...buy smaller homes, higher mpg cars, etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'just be smart about the debt you take on.....buy a car with a loan, not a damn waterjet.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'or just don't get the loan in the first place.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no, those kinds of loans are good, it allows you to leverage your income.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'you just have to be smart about it.  Never buy 0 down.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'unless you can make more from investing compared to the deposit on the loan.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'investing is a risky busines -- several countries were ruined because of the crooks in the USA'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'investing isn't risky.  Investing in risky investments is, and that's where most brokers make their money.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the nedian debt may've dropped between 2007 and 2010 because many lost their homes and also lost the associated debt'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and some people just plain stopped paying certain forms of debt due to lack of collection (ie, mortgages).  If the bank ain't gonna come take your house because you aren't giving them money, then why not use that significant chunk of change to fix other debt?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'people dont try hard enough to avoid debt imo'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so what were the countries that lost fortunes doing when they were investing -- investing in supposedly "sure things"'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'only thing that is sure is death. you have to be foolish or greedy to believe otherwise'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'wasn't the US, our economy flatlined through the entire recession with a maximum movement of 1% (we lost 1% when the recession hit and then gained it back when it was over).  Japan or UK took something like a 17% hit.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so the advice to "avoid risky investments" is not that great, since supposedly sure investments collapsed'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so Barack Obama is doing a great job'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'great job of what?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'I heard his job is Prez of USA'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Twyst snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what's he done that's great?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if Hanslanda is talking of the USA and the 1% recession movement'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'next you'll be claiming that David Cameron is doing a great job'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Hanslanda seems pleased that the USa is doing okay'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'USA is doing OK at what?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'at economy'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'only you could possibly believe that, sir troll'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'you hinting that Hanslanda is wrong'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'I doubt Hans believes it either'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'just have to remember that the good things in the economy are in spite of and the bad things are definitely because of'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'then it makes sense'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the only positive thing you can say about it is that it isn't as bad as some countries.... which really isn't a credible measure of success or progress'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'that's the only measuring stick though really'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'sequester's the best thing that could've happened to us, actually.  Obama's not only painted his administration into a corner by claiming fiscal armageddon, but has further instructed dependant services not to make spending cuts that would contradict the spin put out by the White House.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'turns out sequestering is barely affecting us at all.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'isn't real terms spending increasing even after sequester?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that's always the case'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's like chump change, how stupid does he think his people are? oh, that's right, very..... and he's probably right'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'chump change in the grand scheme of things but it is not an overall spending decrease'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'but real-terms is just moving money around.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'so it is disingenous to pretend it is'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'can't say my government are doing any better, they have hardly put a dent in the structural debt'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'DOW chemical cracks me up'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'somebody recently desired Mitt Romney as prez -- likely so the Mitt may be blamed instead of Barack'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'why does the Department of Organic Warfare crack you up?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'dow chemical just finished getting permits and such for a new lng plant on the gulf coast to send US natgas to europe......so they are now lobbying congress to put limits on how much US gas can be exported.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'those things don't just spring up overnight, you know.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'lol, "Florida high school student suspended for disarming gunman"'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'repubs aren't bargaining in good faith'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nobody is bargaining in good faith'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're politicians'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that's similar to the bank teller who was fired for running down the bank robber and getting the bank's money back.  Dude wasn't following company policy.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'it makes perfect sense'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'all company policy is to let the bastards have the money...it is insured....and it reduces liability.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'how does the bank know he wont sue them if he gets injured "running down the bad guy"'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'three Republican-controlled House bills to avoid sequester, zero Democrat-controlled Senate bills to avoid sequester.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'or the family won't sue if he kills the bank robber'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'that's the bad faith part, giving somone an offer you know they will refuse is not bargaining'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'of course they should sue, they should win $1 and have to pay the costs'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'it is grandstanding'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's what both sides are doing, twyst'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'just chop a trillion of defence spending/CIA/DHS, job done'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'scrap TSA, scrap FEMA, roll the CIA under military control and cut the pentagon'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'a large percentage of citizens want some loopholes closed and the repubs ran on that in the election'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'come home from the middle east'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'offering that in a package is not grandstanding'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'democrats already turned that down in 2011'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'stop feeding everyone high gi carbs/wheat/sugar/dubious vegetable oils and you'll save a trillion in health care instead, then you can fight wars all over the place?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'face it, the sequester is peanuts and doesn't really matter. it's the only way the democrats can have cuts and have someone to blame for them'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's why they didn't negotiate'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and it' the only way the republicans can get cuts'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so they didn't negotiate'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so ultiamtely it's what both sides wanted'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if the DHS hadn't bought such a lot of munitions, weaponary, and light armored tanks, you'd not need a cut at all'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20243493 this is the kind of people who should lead countries, because they don't treat themselves as god'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'we'd get a lot back too if welfare wasn't like diamonds.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'welfare is peanuts'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, that guy is from U-R-Gay!'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'more the kind of definition of democracy, and selling points of communism that never ever have been reached by any professed government type of either'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you guys could solve your deficit without touching welfare'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you just won't'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the UK's is a bit harder to solve'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it wouldn't be that hard, just introduce guns.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'guns might help us reduce our violent crime rate, but wouldn't solve the financial problem'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'could or couldn't solve?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'couldn't'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'raise the cap on income that is taxed by social security....say $500k or so.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'something tells me that won't raise $900bn a year, riz'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we dont need to raise 900 bn, jobs will do that if we just open up the gates to lots of energy jobs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'energy jobs create 12 new jobs for EVERY 1 energy job made.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'with Obama closing down all the coal plants and refusing oil, doubt that's going to happen'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xantcha: 'We need energy... Americans are (in a lot of cases) overweight... Solution: Pay them to sit on bicycles attached to generators'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he has no say when it comes to private land, and most of the shale oil is on private land.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you'd be better off rendering Michael Moore and generating off him'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Tallow Hal?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'something like that'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'Rush is pretty corpulent'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'gotta be a fair amount of btus in there'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'look at the fringe benefits, with him gone, he won't spew out vacuous liberal bullshit'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'just burn down the national forests.  Not only is there a lot of energy locked up there, but the masses can get high as well.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're pushing to have the feds nullify the pot laws'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'according to a new economic growth list.....Texas is one again on top of the list of most large companies creating new jobs.....704 large manufacturing companies created new jobs in Texas in 2012.....the most of any state....and the houston metroplex led Texas with 107 companies creating manufacturing jobs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Ohio was 2nd.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'quality is better than quantity'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you guys aren't paying nearly enough fuel tax ;-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I agree...raise it 2 pennies per year for 10 years'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'why?  We'll easily pay 10 times that much anyways.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we need the money to keep fixing the roads we have.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: '5-dollar gas is a near-certainty at this point.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, but that isnt tax'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'only 18 cents is federal gas tax.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you DO realize that's not all the fuel tax assessed on gas, right?'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'state tax is whatever your state adds to it'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'in MO, at least half if not 3/4ths of what you pay at the pump is just tax.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no it isnt :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'not at all'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'IL recently abolished their state gas tax, but not sure if they put it back.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'combined state and fed is ~50c/gallon on average'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they abolished their gas tax, but are trying to send people to prison for life for videoing police'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and forcibly installing smartmeters on people who don't want them'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'why anyone would want to live in maryland is beyond me though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they're doing that for the Minority Report computer.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'by having utilities usage uploaded to the internet, the government can hack the utility databases to figure out if you're running an illegal growing op or not.'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they don't need to hack'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'well, they've gotta get through the firewall, and the utility companies can always say "you need a warrant first".'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not only that, they can also determine what appliances you have on, and can turn certain ones off if they wish, including altering your heating settings (if you have certain types of heating controllers)'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, they do not'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the utility companies co-operate'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'best people can do is install a filter in an electric socket to fuck up any network over powerline signals, and maybe make a wireless-blocking sheaf for the smartmeter (though they will probably arrest you for 'interfering' with utility company propert'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'lets see, the maryland gov raided the transportation fund of $1 billion last year to balance the budget, and now wants to raise the maryland gas tax by 15 ents per gallon to fill it back up.....you guys elected a poser. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Texas elected a businessman, and you guys elected a poser. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'MD wants to raise taxes by $3.4bn'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we'll just blow up the ship'
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'woo, a large movie theater popcorn has 1 full stick of butter on it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'sooo tasty.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'wow, impressive lava flows from volcanos in the russian far east.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'interesting, there are 6 volcanoes erupting worldwide right now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'make that five, its taco night :P'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'does that include Kilewea in Hawaii?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'Kilauea?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'It's an amazing thing to stare down into a lava flow.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'Err.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'You generally don't want to be close enough to stare down into any lava flow.  Not because of the heat, but because there are usually poisonous gases involved.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'There are places to go where you are not in any real danger.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'even if it's not completely risk free of course'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ethiopea has some awesome volcanoe fields, so does the kamchatka region of russia'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'generally nowhere near the volcanoes that go boom.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i seen them on documentaries, keeps it pretty warm in that part of russia year round'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'the exploding ones are particularly bad to be close to'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'this debate is hot /duck'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'hehe'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'saw a pretty awesome clip of what happens when someone throws garbage into lava though, catches on fire and explodes, throwing lava about'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'can do the same thing with water and a grease fire'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'well, the difference is that no matter what you throw at the lava it won't cool down so you'd notice. The effect is more.. spectacular with lava.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, first edition 3d printed gun shot 6 bullets before it failed......2nd edition 3d printed gun using a new gun design and resin shot 600+ times without failure, and would have gone more, but they ran out of bullets for the test.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I dunno, I bet a canister of liquid nitrogen would cool it down enough to notice.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'The new warhead utilizes sodium hydride compounds / chemical reaction'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'on detonation a large amount of sodium powder is released, which reacts with seawater to produce large amounts of very-high-temperature hydrogen within a very short period of time, so that the temperature instantly increases to over 2,000 °C within a radius of a few dozen metres as the hydrogen reacts with oxygen, destroying the target even if not hit.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'probably like the grease on water and throwing things into volcanoes i guess'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-6_torpedo'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'titanium melts at 1600 or 1700 c'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'it would be a pretty interesting reaction if one throws liquid nitrogen on lava. But nitrogen isn't nearly as cold as lava is hot so it would still flow on wihout a big change in temperature.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'cool, now we just need to miniaturize the printer and release a virus that turns us into vampires and the stage is set for Ultraviolet's arrival.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'coming soon to police near you.....if they pull you over for a traffic stop, they will be able to take your DNA and test it against a database of past crimes with DNA saved....if your DNA matches.....you are arrested.  Welcome to 1984.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'earth could probably beat the snot out of any human invention though if it wanted to, like volcanoes and stuff, not sure if that'd ever change'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'how is that 1984?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'doesn't hurt that the scale is so radically in favor of the planet.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'you dont know what 1984 is'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it is though, evolving into the ultimate police state, and as corrupt of a mind as any human has shown to have in the past, is applicable to be in control of that state'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'big hair and glittery rock n roll.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Snaebjorn laughs out loud at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's alot of real developments that can be placed side by side and shown to be turning into something like all them conspiracy's'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'you can also find patterns in white noise if you look hard enough'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i've never understood what white noise is meant to be'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'static'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'random'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the voice of the universe.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if you listen to some songs of mine though, you can hear different lyrics than are posted'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's not random, really.  The shapes come about from some sort of math principle.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'of theirs, but that i listen to occassionally, i can tell the difference between reality and fiction though'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'only in the most obvious cases.  Without a reason to doubt your senses, you're gonna fall into the trap of perception = reality just as easily as the rest of us.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they say plants communicate with one another, interspecies etc, through chemicals released in their roots (and possibly bugs will carry phenotypes between one another that'll alter their development), so biology as a whole, and possibly more than just what is understood to contain life might all communicate in one way or another'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the method to the white noise if there is , i'm not an atheist though, psychology's a subject that millions upon millions of papers have been written about, case studies , philosophies, theory's, etc, metaphysics'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'individual's definitely exist though, just not everything about everything is known to people'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '(i think)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'digital recordings change the original sounds so that some lyrics are interpreted differently'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how about deja vu when in a new moment, as though repeating what's already been repeated, except it's new - where would a feeling like that originate?  what similarities exist if there is none, for it to be a delusion?  alot of psychology relies on the precept's that all mental illness is founded on the basis of prior event's and their associated inner-complexities (anxiety/fear, etc), but if there is none, then where does that make psychological precept's absolute? http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/public/articles/Modern_Science_and_the_Dehumanization_of_Man-by_Phillip_Sherrard.aspx this article's got some intriguing content about that'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sources to research articles that heavily influenced modern philanthropy and things like that, pyrrhonism's got some of what i got in mind about it too'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'tldr:P actually the human brain is pretty spectacular at pattern recognition, but it makes mistakes'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the M&M advert on TV of the brown M&M saying "we don't have ears" when paying attention is heard as "we don't have you" when not paying attention -- upon examination, the "ears" is intonated as "you" -- to imitate, when pronouncing "ears" use a "you" query sound overlay'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, i notice that in myself too, i've studied my mind quite alot, there's still alot of things i can't explain though, irrationality in particular, where some of it comes from is mysterious'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i believe the existance of intelligent spiritual forces is possible though, or at least a mind beyond understanding - here in the world i'd wager it's mostly demonic though '
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'cause i'm not an atheist'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'less likely to happen with analog, since the ears use extra queues yet present with analog to interpret that speech, queues that are missing or reduced in digital versions'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so i consider them in parallel with other things, even if not verifiable, indications and clues'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the lyrics of "heart of glass" in analog are more readily heard than those same lyrics in digital '
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if the digital music is mp3 (noise), the lyrics are going to be "changed" more often'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i think records had the best sound quality'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'casettes weren't too bad though, cd's and these others are limited by binary calculations, which i don't think were a factor in the others'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the song "Sultans of Swing" by Dire Straits in both analog and digital are different to the official printed lyrics, since the lead singer dropped a few verses during the recording  (lazy drug-addled git?)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'vinyl records risk ruin when played (since some forms of static seem to etch the vinyl) -- so the best practice is to use Gruv-Glide on the vinyl before playing the vinyl and transfer the vinyl sound to the best-quality cassette tape, and play the cassette tape'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'not really'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'if you insist on playing etched plastic, your best bet to preserve the material is with lasers'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Gruv-Glide was an expensive spray from a pressurised can - unsure whether manufactured any more - Gruv-Glide when properly used did reduce static to 0 on a pristine vinyl record'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'are laser players of vinyl records actual or merely a con-myth'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'yes they are real'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'and something that makes no contact with the surface is the only way to guarantee preservation'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'light bouncing off a surface is still making contact, though.  It's the basis for solar propulsion, for example.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'high quality analog cassette tapes are able to record the sound of a pin dropping in the background during an orchestral piece which the ear is able to discern  -- digital is unable to do that as accurately'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'how much do laser players of vinyl records cost these days'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'several years ago, i looked at the prices of laserplayers of vinyl records, and was told on irc that the website advertising them was a scam'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'to drop 7 to 14 grand on a laser-vinyl-record-player is a big risk (unless extremely rich, when 14k is merely petty cash)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh, if you believe that the world is "demonic", you are likely going to burn out and fizzle -- you may be fighting a see of illusions conjured by paranoia and delusions -- seemingly hopeless endless battle(s) of futilty,  (raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own confusion) (yet seeking something) (a windmill perhaps)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'everybody's likely to burn out and fizzle eventually aren't they?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'unless you were born immortal.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'at least i'm not following a holy writ in my speculation's'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i just consider some of them :o'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how come if you look for the good in the world, you're almost always contradicted by what you really see there'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'at least, i am'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you know, so if i'm going to consider spirituality, it seems some of it is pretty hateful of the dirt we're born under'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what religion's ever been written before the world was contradictory to the good in itself'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they make up reasons why it's how it is, but did they ever really see it otherwise?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how come adam never wrote down a history book of how he shouldn't have listened to eve's serpent'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's a fine start though, endless imaginationining available in trying to decode the broad-desire for reality of the genesis story'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'because the Adam and Eve story never really happened.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just because no religion is affirmatively irrevocable in it's true detailings of the verifiability of it's deity, doesn't mean no such deity exists though, just maybe no book can contain the inventor of reality'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'always some contestations seem apparent, and usually there are writ's of what to do with such unbelievers, adding to the weight of the spirit of the religion, which is infallibly unquestioning in it's utmost honesty, and deliberate execution of the rational mind'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'druzil's new char?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the interpretation of the dictionary you are using (along with the defective "encyclopedia") is likely yet inadequate, so when you attempt to look at the world, you are yet misdirected by illusions and errored interpretations'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'yeah, and zade is that other one. the paranoid one who thinks his ears are magic'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'zade's not me, but i am'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'what's his name. starts with an x maybe?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'xyliz is another notable one'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'xyliz, fiendish'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'maybe'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'starling got nuked for botting'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'No, she did not.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'where were they nuked for then, change the reason'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'starling got nuked for something entirely unrelated to botting'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'She did not get nuked for botting.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe lasher'll nuke me for you guys soon'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'are you botting?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i never botted'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'so what's the problem?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'not sure the rules on botting actually cover channel chatter...'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh, a first step (among many) is to not lie to yourself'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'botting channels is explicitly disallowed'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: '(for one, it's spammy to everyone else)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mr roboto'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ok, then start with 'what is god', or 'what is the problem', since there seems to be a problem, what determines what the lie to oneself is, when considering the immensurate'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'reminds me of lemon'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sonshi: 'well, you don't have to bot channels... call lasher or some other imm various (bad) names or something often enough, and that person won't be around for too long...'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'some things can only be seen by seeing what they're not'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's a form of communication in some circles'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'also how science works isn't it?  '
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'science works by magic'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'well, any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sure, and the way i just described a communication method is a method through which groups of you have called me bad names'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I didn't call you a bad name'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'lets not directly offend, lets give hints accumulatively and attack from the shadows'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i've done the same though, is dick-tator a bad word'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that was an old joke of mine, about the value of agriculture in a pillaged world'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'doesn't matter for this channel, except that there's an unofficial obligation to keep this channel classier than curse.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh, another first step (among many) is reduce that ego and the desire for vindication and approval -- seek truth instead and seek to be safely benign'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2011/10/hung-o27.html consider this for instance, see how much unfertile land hungary is located upon, population being 9 million roughly, and here they claim 100,000 children - not including adults, are starving to death in 2011'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'which is ideally the analogy of 'trotskyism' stalin during the 1930's genocide of ukraine in holodomor, so a potatoe dictator, and a modelling agency came to mind'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'my hate is sometimes misguided but represented independently of where it's sourced from, it's not as shallow as a skin tone though'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the use of more contraceptives is the hindsight answer to the numbers of starving children '
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sure, i guess in your face-hostility isn't always the way to have discussions, but some people don't react to anything but, because they're too almighty like starving the surface area of agricultural independent hungary to population genocide death, through fencing off the rent spikes that impale vlad's enemies'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'really you say, now you're showing more of your jewish side, wasn't it soros who saved hungary from the USSR'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'which of my sides is the jewish one?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or that 'sect' of yours, whatever it may be called, as i said i'm not skin deep in my entertaining opponents'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"the road to a worse hell is also paved with bleeding-heart intentions"'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh, if you say you believe in some god, note that god does not seem care about those starving children either'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'he might not, but i find it offensive'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'a genuine caring god likely cares more about the ecology than the excess overpopulation of starving children'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'really, if you study population density for land mass, i'd say people in hungary shouldn't have to starve very much at all, they could all weigh more than yokozuna the chinese fat - wrestler from the wwf if they so desired, seeing how much food can be produced there'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but now you are calling them and their self-sustainment a selfishness, justifying extermination for the higher-good of your ubermensch'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and i don't think they live in germany, do they?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'except the stark fact is that when the starving (children) are fed, they (grow up and) overbreed until (more are) starving again, and they destroy the ecology and cause animal insect and plant species to go extinct, (destroying millions of years of evolutionary work) -- perhaps "god" prefers that excess humans starve -- and the Apocalypse of John certainly indicates this attitude by "god"'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'name one white nation that is over-bred'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's india, there's china, there's africa - is it racism or observation'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the resources and energy hog called the USA'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'what is the definition of overbred'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'russia's the largest nation on earth of land mass, lets see it's population: 141,930,000 - 2011'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'china is smaller than russia.. population?  1,344,130,000 - 2011'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'how much of that land mass is in easily livable areas'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that is over 10 times the population'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '1,241,491,960 - 2011 - india'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'who's got a problem with breeding itself, white's?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'as a racially-neutral observation, lets see which subspecies are most elaborate in their breeding inequalities'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'it is a subjective measure'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the randy shall inherit the earth.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'what is the appropriate level of population density?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's not including the rest of population of asia or middle east, or even mentioning that of north/south africa'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the entire american continents is populated at maybe a billion people, maybe a little more'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what caused atilla the hun to make war on rome'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'does that mean it is overpopulated or underpopulated'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tenar: 'he was hun-gry'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'for one hun-dread alex'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Rome was easy pickings at that point.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh, your "bleeding heart" platform seems to be a recipe for more overbreeding and worse ecological extinctions -- your policies seem to by anti-god'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'plus, the alternative was Count Dracula and that guy really scared the shit out of Attila.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'from the perspective of "God", the human population of the planet earth requires to reduced to (say) less than a billion and a half'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and there's where nationalists need to internationally unite and make a bleeding-heart platform for world war 3 on'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'who's the good shepherd here on earth, you?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'who's herd is gonna be culled, yours?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'you 2 are fun to watch'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tenar: 'amazing how the people advocating 'culling' are never the ones in danger of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"God" likely disagrees with that ruinous bleeding-heart sentiment about feed the starving by opening up more areas tso humans may overbreed even more'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i never advocated culling nobody as an initiator, i was born into a world where population control was becoming well established for the last 100 years already - since they're insisting more and more though, that's why i think about it - like some 'sects' of people'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tenar: 'not you, man'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'since the world population doubled withing the last 100 years, that "world where population control was becoming well established for the last 100 years already" is blatantly false'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'not necessarily so, Zasde.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the fact that less people die has a lot to do with it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'without the alleged population control instead of 2x over 100 years it might have been 3x.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'is this the god-like qualities you desire in the ubermensch, amongst the billion - zade? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgpaKkrZex4'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there was no "population control" until very recently (as in China)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe he was just joking around, he had a sardonic sense of humour, but he seems fairly arrogant doesn't he?  how many born rich people like that will be controlling the 'justification of existance' in your utopic 'desire of god' planet'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'population control along with eugenics are pretty distasteful subjuects'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'i don't watch youtube references - no software'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ok, well, it's bernard shaw deciding who's a parasite in society and who's not, reflected upon in the change of ideology discoursed in http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/public/articles/Modern_Science_and_the_Dehumanization_of_Man-by_Phillip_Sherrard.aspx'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'of course it'll be the communist party leaders, the high priests of (religion), the rich and the royalty - finding the most subservient benefits to their pampered continuance'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's why i posted the link to that guy from uruguay the other day, he's a pretty atypical world leader isn't he?  living on a farm like an ordinary person, quite the contrast to these others - more my idea of a nationalist, who wouldn't find so many reasons why hungary should starve'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's no prob to people like shaw though, he's a lordling, entertainer of the most high arrogant dictators of his time, buttering their starved gluttony'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the only "population control" was the world wars (and several minor wars), and the various genocides and mass starvations -- and following those "extermijnations", the populace was enourage to breed -- so basically there was no (benign) policy of "population control" -- so don't tell lies'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'you say that like it's a bad thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'and don't say that "baby boomers" were an example of "population reduction" in action '
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you are ignoring India's official birth control policy that has been in effect for at least 50 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and wether a birth control policy works or not comes down to the individual, unless the government is willing to castrate at birth.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'why is there so much need of abortion and birth control except a fundamentally immoral society, there were less harlots in historic societies while more moral values were predominantly the norm'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'oh, I don't know, I bet that the ability to feed them has a lot to do with it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'nah, morals were just there for public display.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's all about meat to some of you people, societies weren't always this rotted though'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'can assure you that there were a zillion other rotten things about past societies'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'a simple study of rat behavior when there is overcrowding will tell you what will happen if the birth rate runs rampant.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'let's start with 'oh she's an old woman who lives alone, BURN HER! SHE'S A WITCH!''
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'lets start also with the desire of the conqueror to eradicate the memory of the 'saved' from ever being otherwise'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I always find it very amusing that those "moral" people who oppose birth control are not willing to feed those whose morality allows to live.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'did the population of India stop increasing, or was that "official birth control policy" defective and ineffective'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'that is because most of them see the children as a way to punish people for having sex.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'they take a moral stand against birth control and let others worry about the maintenance problem their morality causes.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i find it funnier that people who protest human rights of a lesser nature won't dare challenge the taboo of a higher culling'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'killing indian babies is bad karma, let the English and the Spaniards do it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'there has always been culling, some call it natural selection. Natural selection uses many agents including members of the target set.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'seems starvation and lack of resources is currently among the most effective methods of population control, that and wars  '
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that has always been the case, Zade. People starved millions of years ago, so it is nothing new.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'nah, stress leads to an increased desire to procreate.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'a lot of bread gets made after a disaster hits'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'tsk, Rabshakeh wickedly talks of "culling" -- and fails to suggest the benign alternatives of population reduction'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'Well, stress often does put me in a "fuck everything" sort of mood.. but not one having to do with procreation'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'a lower population margin is a better trigger, Hanslanda.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'pessimistic outlook on future events based on (recent) history and world currents shouldn't increase desire to procreate should it?  there's no security for the offspring, but there's alot of lustful virtues sold to society through it's professional, media and education systems'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: ''unfit earth' isn't a bad judgement for a responsible parent, even the rich aren't safe from one another'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'as I said before, Zade. If you are willing to feed the resultant masses that your position will create, I will be willing to support you :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'better when you can be sure your neighbour isn't a stranger and the community watches out for itself'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and it is not the editorial "you"'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"me get involved - nope"'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'then, stfu :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"me stay silent - nope"'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'youse require to work out a lot of (grossly defective) inconsistencies in your opinions'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hanslanda will not rest until his mission is fulfilled.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some of you require somebody to indicate where your opinions are grossly defective (at the holistic level) -- perhaps some of you may even come up with some decent policies that don't lead to the ruination depletion (with extinctions) of the world ecology'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'currently i (and god) are pro-world ecology, where protection the ecology is far more important than the excess redundant populations of the human race'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'population does not affect the ecology, it's the artificial alteration of the environment that does. Put another way, technology, being artificial, will always impact the ecosystem. It can be said that any external impact is detrimental, by definition.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that, and what advancements and alternatives exist are neglected as too costly or otherwise, resulting in continuation of the 'ecology problem' of zade's'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'wrong Anasristos -- human overpopulation does affect the ecology '
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they don't actually try to solve problems for the 'higher calling', focusing more on using their ignorance as justification for the 'higher culling''
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'if you want to build a boat that mimics a log drifting downriver, the ecology will not be affected. If you want to build a power plant to move a ship, the ecology will be affected, negatively, by definition.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if they were trying things to fix things then that'd be different, but i think not, and therefore are you full of shit?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oladon: 'Take it easy, all of you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some documentaries on tv seems to like to state that "every day, ## more species go extinct", and those extinctioins are caused by industry seeking to supply the human population'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the harpy eagle is a different story, though recently it seems even interpol has gotten interested in illegal logging, while that's part of what they're after (the timber of those old trees, the other is gold in the soil), and is gold neccessary jurisdiction for extinction?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it can't be denied that some artificial processes are causing extinction, however extinction has always been part of the ecology.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rashakeh, learn to use polite language to tell your debate opponent that they are grossly wrong -- you may prefer to author an informative accurate book some day - practice make perfect'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they need money though, and like i was saying the other day , unless you own the concept of worth on earth, what kind of optimistic outlooks are there?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'worth isn't a very democratic determination among the populations of inhabitants of earth'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'although, this water is valuable to somebody dying of thirst, it's better mixed with cyanide in extracting some gold to it's foreign landowner'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'wrong Anasristos -- the number of extinctions these days is not a normal part of the ecology -- unless a comet smashing into the planet and killing off billions of humans is viewed as "nornal"'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Ecclesiastes 1:4 -> Men come and go, but the earth abides :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so, if you are looking to save the ecology, just be patient :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'given enough time, the earth will return to its pristine state.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ecclesiastes was also the son of a hedonist king who had over 700 wives and innumerable concubines (side-hobby's)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'who partook in his inherited family values'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and your claim is what?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so all wisdom coming from a man in a golden temple doesn't shower me with insight, i consider the deception in those words instead, and if there isn't any then there isn't any'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"Last and First Men" by Olaf Stapledon  -- in that scifi book, the humans went extinct'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'oh, I see :) But you wouldn't mind my wisdom coming from you. With all due respect, I find your credentials at least as suspect.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i never said mine ws any better'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i wasn't born a lord-king inherited earth like him and those other examples though'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'then I fail to see your point.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and of course, noble birth impairs the mind. We all know  that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'he said 'vanity of vanities, all is vanity', while indulging in every aspect of earthly grandeur available at his time, at the expense of everybody else'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'of course he'd know best for them, how come he bothered to buddha lick the sugar cubes in the first and last place'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Why do you assume that because he understood the process in which he was involved, he had to react to it? Anyone can say "Doing this is wrong" while doing it. It doesn't make the act less wrong because the actor continues to indulge.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it is possible to be a hypocritically wise man :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm not sure, i've never had the opportunity to try'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'one would say that a lover of the ecology was being hypocritical when he drove to work :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I would not denied that he loved, I would just think that he didn't love THAT much :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Anaristos, your policy of "exinctions are natural" even when at epidemic rates, is not reassuring -- seems you are doing a fancy talk spiel to justify human avaraice while the ecology is being devastated, so that eventually even the human race shall be in peril ("And unless these days be ended, no flesh be saved" - biblical quote justifying end of days)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just picture that then, sitting down in front of all the starving children you see on african world vision commercials while you eat your supper with shame, for they cannot, and tell them how come eating really is vanity, and god would have it no other way but to starve'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'of course most people don't think like that, but that's the type of hypocrisy you're trying to rationalize solomon and his spawn's as'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and there's nothing at all that the person watching television can do to help those people, especially as they cannot see their donation turn into progress of the 'teaching to fish' variety'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, gee, Zade. Do you see any Neanderthal walking around? I don't mean that euphemistically.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i read one quote that claimed only 7% of the over 17 billion in foreign aid and charity destined to haiti after their earthquake actually was utilized in humanitarian projects, whether or not what i heard/read was correct is left to research'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'seems the Apocalypse of John and other biblical scriptures were aware that "flesh" was in peril from extinctions'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'we are all in peril of extinction. The other day, in California, a man died when his house was swallowed by a sink hole while he slept. The body was never recovered.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it was swept out to sea, a killer whale will eventually poop the leftovers out.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'maybe so, the point is, that nature is a violent mistress. We are in danger of being destroyed every single second.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'we all look at natural catastrophes as oddities of nature when in fact, over the history of the planet, they are quite common. '
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'woo, another asteroid zooming close to earth has been found.....that is 2 this week...the next one will come 2.5x the distance of the moon to the earth.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if these suckers had been heating towards earth...we would have had no chance of stopping them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'heading that is.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Which is why we need to expand the search the sky initiative with more funding so that more then 2% of the sky can be scanned per year.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, you think maybe they want to place some nuclear warheads into orbit in order to 'sway off' the asteroid threat?  world's been alright without those for as long as the world's been around, maybe some detection mechanism's and ground-based prevention strategy's are better trusted'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'nasa's new pet project for space rocks is a one-two punch using nukes.  First one will be to dig a hole, second one will be for pulverizing the one big rock into many small ones.'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't know, think of it though, how a nuclear warhead could be shot down to earth and i was an asteroid instead, the system has failed - not much checks and measures involved in things like that, and alot more of a world-wide poliec state evolving from it isn't there?'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or it was a random space debris falling on a strategic target'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'hrm, if a comet hits the planet earth killing billions, do you hope for a quick death, or a slow death, or the horrid life in the freezing weather likely to result  :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i think the world's naturally survived for longer than man's allegedly (not arriving from outer space) been on it'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if there can be safe way's that can't be abused to detect problems like those and do something about it, nothing wrong with trying to develop that'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but i still think that terrestrial life-forms, that are the alleged reason for protection from the sky, shouldn't be neglected in order to defend them from the sky'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'which is where the investment problems come from, if a real scientist or people is interested in building something, they do it'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh, "and i was an asteroid instead" is a nonsense conjecture unworthy of serious debate'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i was a imaginary dictator, 'plausible deniability''
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'for instance, you seen maybe on russia's news networks that some of them thought the shockwave was a american military device being tested, so to prevent tensions more collaberation would be required, wouldn't it?  separating the terrestrial protected from the intergalactic assassination 'god''
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade prefers to conjecture "if i was an imaginary god, what would i do" -- answer "likely the same as usual, very little -- i'm resting, seventh day" .. "What, it's only the sixth day - darn!"
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'imaginary gods aren't able to do...'
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wreck-It Roninleader: 'http://www.israndpaulstilltalking.com/'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Researchers who transplanted human brain cells into newborn mice said the rodents grew up to be smarter than their normal littermates, learning how to associate a tone with an electric shock more quickly and finding escape hatches faster.'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'just like humans, then'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'should that science be legal?'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'genetically modified human organisms, they already have something like 3/4 of the unique human genome patented in singapore according toa  documentary i seen'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'more than slavery, you're a human figment of their imagination that they own the meat of the mind of'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The experiments are aimed at making models to study human brain diseases such as Huntingtons and schizophrenia, as well as nerve diseases such as multiple sclerosis. But the team at the University of Rochester say their findings also suggest that these brain cells, called glial cells, may very well be one of the important factors that make humans different from other animals.'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'genesis will finally be real, they can sequence it in their lab's of the future, as they become your eternal god's like the predator's in the gladiator matches in antarctica (alien versus predator, and some caesar and ham)'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'failed corn crops, cancerous results (studies), patented pigs, salmon, mice with human ears attatched to them, mice with human brain cells added to them, patented human genome (the unique separate from apes) 75% as of documentary, mendele (angel of death) experimenting on twins in history studies, rats without immune systems, biometric registration in india (250 million), 1 card for all services in taiwan, electric money in sweden, rfid chips on students in texas, implants being normalized over time along with abortion versus the promiscuity and social corruption which results in more promiscuous activities than historically reckoned, fish protein in french fries, anti-carcinogens in fast food restauraunts, calcium pills imported from south africa (likely zimbabwe)'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'all alot to consider, but there's definitely a method to the madness, like cloud computing and my theory of the hatred of knowledge in communist influenced countries such as cambodia'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'also not much elaboration on south korea's prison robots, which 'using ai, instead of remote control', determine a suicidal prisoner and a risk prisoner, but are unarmed for separation from the flock, while at the meantime developing automated gun turrets in their defense company, no mention if RFID chips are worn by the prisoners, and how zoned in those guns may be on such a parameter'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but they have that tech imported to 4 american universities and one in algeria if i read correctly'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so maybe it'll make for better security in the future'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'worldwide there are around 650 million guns in circulation.....how do we get a gun into the hands of the other 5.5 billion people ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'funny isn't it, britain supplies islamic extremists in syria with weapons but doesn't sell them to it's own citizens'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'your taxes at work'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or are you american, you also provide some foreign aid like that around the world'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'canada builds helicopter engines for chinese military choppers though, so i imagine we're into some 70 million dollar less than originally bargained potash deals, which are for use in agriculture instead of explosives'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ironically, they find it hard to steal enough from the tax-payer to pay their monopoly suppliers'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so they can't have their own up to date stuff, at least historically'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'britain imports islamic extremists and deosn't protect their citizens from them, and gives them guns in syria, while not giving their own people any to protect themselves'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sad kind of situation sin't it, who can make sense of it all'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sweden also set up a arms manufacture facility in arabia too, possibly cause the princesses husband doesn't look swedish'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'seeing how he got his humble fortune seems to involve minerals like that stuff'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Norway is the best country to retire in as a citizen.'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they just imported 112,000 somalian and afghani's and other volatile, mostly non-integrational 'minorities' in 2012'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but the news , and video interview show that islam's on the rise in norway too, they want to sever heads for not observing ramadan, and declare oslo a shariah county'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'quite the government you got (we got) anyways, imports the enemy and arms them in foreign countries, and defends their rights to desecrate yours'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'should check out some vid's of them riots in london in 2011, the cops did nothing'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they say 600,000 native english people left london in the last few years, and only 200,000 remained in the country (or were accounted for there)'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but there is now over 500,000 illegal immigrants living there'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'not legal immigrants'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'don't they have hydrogen bombs and are trying to make war on argentina over a little island'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'filth governments all over the world, traitors to whatever land they claim'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'awesome that Rand Paul's antics got Noddy Holder to back down'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i think i am'
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'woops mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Heehaw!  U.S. officials publicly express confidence that the national missile defense system based in Alaska would be able to shoot down any incoming North Korean ICBM.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tharnin: 'And? You think they're going to issue a press release that says, "Welp. We've spent unthinkable amounts of money on stuff we assure you is keeping you safe. They've got a giant rubber band and a couple of soda cans filled with kerosine. If they ever decide to use those, we're screwed."'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'kerosene is good stuff....lets produce more!'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos . o O ( Jet fuel is basically kerosene )
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the US military is one of the most inefficient bloated govt departments in the whole US....and it is creating a 'crisis' saying training and a few other things will need to be reduced because they do not want to cut weapons programs that are not needed....like a Navy program to build a new warship that has doubled in price to $440 million each,and the weapons on the new ship are considered obsolete already.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'don't forget the Sgt. York, I love that tank :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'is that the new tank, that even the Army does not even want ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yeah, and it's quite obsolete, though it's probably the most modern tank ever :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Well, tanks are WWII technology, like the battleship.....not needed anymore'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a highly mobile military needs weapons that can be moved to battles quicky.....a 50 ton tank is not easy to move. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'http://articles.latimes.com/1985-08-27/news/mn-25222_1_tank-arm'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'uh, 1985 ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'precisely, tank warfare it's a thing of the past.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the project is not quite dead, it's just on hold :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'they are waiting to see if they can add airborne capabilities :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'a flying tank would be awesome :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'so would a flying donkey.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rizgoth points excitedly at a flying donkey???!!!!
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'a donkey doesn't have quite the firing rate :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You can hear their sonic heehaw from miles away. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'sure, but you have to admit, they would be hard to stop, they only way to do so was to completely destroy them in the air.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'a tank coming at you at 200 mph might want to make you go somewhere else :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'do realistically 50 mph would be tops'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'We just sold $1.3 billion worth of tanks to Egypt.....and Egypt used money we gave them to buy them...:p'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, in th desert tanks make sense.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we need to cancel the F-35 program.....it is already 8 years behind schedule, and the total cost has increased to $400 billion in the next 20 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it is stupid to spend $250 million for a stealth jet, when a modern F-15E still has air superiority....or an F-14'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it is as pretty plane :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The new version of the F-15 only costs about $18 million each.....and besides....unmanned aircraft will replace the fullsize jet program in the near future.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and the bigger question is, what would they oppose if deployed? I mean, they are using stealth against armies that can hardly afford shoes for their troops.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, no other military is willing to spend the money on next generation jets.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'a newer version of the swiss army knife would pose a big thread to those armies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'threat*'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'even the Russians canceled their next generation jet program over 10 years ago.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that's because the MIG-35 is still an ass-kicker :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the mig35 is their next generation jet....they cant afford to build more :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yes, and it is sufficient'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'They have built 3 of them in the last 3 years. :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'they are smart in spending their money elsewhere :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, like more resource extraction.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the only opponent the Russians would really have is the US, in which case there will be no need to leave the ground :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the F-16C is a damn fine jet also...and only costs $18 million each as well....the F-35 was flown against the F-16 at an airshow, and they couldnt beat eachother.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'er the mig-35'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'there is  big doubt that the F-35 can justify it's cost. It's stealth is questionable.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'almost 4800 F-16 fighting falcons have been built so far.....damn fine jet.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I love the F-16....it looks kinda like a Viper in the bsg tv series.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'michael o'hare died.....he played jeffrey sinclair on B5.....the B5 curse.....they all die young.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the actor who played Zathras died also...from a motorcycle accident.....Dr franklin actor died from a aortic dissection, G'kar actor died from lung cancer, Zack Allen char died from complications of alcohol poisoning, '
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Thursday warned state and local health officials about potential infections from a deadly virus similiar to the common cold and SARS previously unseen in humans that has now sickened 14 people and killed 8. '
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the new disease appears to have originated in the Middle East.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'er new virus.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if it's impossible for the government to justify the abundance of resources (utilized) in the creation of the steel/iron/other materials used in manufacturing the product (pioneering independent) technology of warfare or utility, mouths to feed per land mass, land destruction for export for import of things the unemployed could have produced, then why do they bother?'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just say, this is wh's collecting atilla's taxes and stop with the false war's already'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so this here , f-35 jet costs 135 million cheap ones, but from ground up, without technology ignorant schooled to understand how to build it better yourself, on the dole itself the employment ring, how much would that jet cost from melted ores to fuel taken from the national well?'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '135 isn't too bad i guess, but there was the example of 250 million dollar warship suddenly costing 500 million'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'seen some stealth jets flying around the other day though, there was a jetstream then there was none - it was pretty neat to see'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '3 in a row'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'nah, it was just the temp in the air changed so no stream was left behind ;), but i think using people's taxes (more and more unemployed) to buy monopoly tools of war is bullshit, when there's minds capable of comprehending every fraction of the information used in developing those weapons, resources all over (with foreign 'stakeholders') which could be seized and utilized by the new tax-payer funded workforce developing military hardware'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'among other things, nationalism can solve alot of problems, raise overall quality of life (socialism) and develop a stronger nation, where participation is available for all creeds'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i understand a bag of wheat for a bag of rice though, and some limited scientific interoperability in the world'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but if a chinese immigrant comes to canada, they should want to be a canadian citizen, shouldn't they?  not here on a work visa for their communist-corporation owned oil sands project or coal mine (which is a difficult job mining coal and dangerous, but there still was the odd canadian felt left out of the opportunity with the high unemployment rate), for instance'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or if a muslim comes to canada, they should want to not live in a muslim country'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'isn't canada secular?'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they can do their muslim religion exclusive of the world domination strategy inherent in the world news'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'canada's basically owned by everybody but itself'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and they don't have separation of churhc and state the same way america does, as republican convention last time broke that rule by opening sikh ceremony (symbolic), or building mosques in the middle east in a peace strategy'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'canada funds churches in uganda , with taxes, and doles out a 5 million per year tax to a office on religious freedom in a mosque in toronto, headed by a christian'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'which is all non-separation of church and state'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Well, if action counts more than law, the US is definitely not secular'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, i don't see much racism against indians or negroes in (america or canada) as far as the system is concerned, the system rather violates it's citizens democracy to affront them with statements that it does, indians and negroes are put in prison so often because they commit so many more crimes than whites per capita, it's like saying they should get away with doing crimes because they're indians or negroes - which is inverted racism eventually - i've met people who've worked with indians who they liked, yet despised racist indians who they don't - the government would rather have that distinction not be made'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i do know that occassionally racism is a factor in administrative decisions, but that's not all the time, and it does work both ways'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i hope they figure out something cleaner in the future though'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://uhurunews.com/ (a) black power website, they got some interesting articles, not all unreasonable, like the one on agriculture (replicating india's gmo debt treadmill, from a documentary in mexico)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'hear of sites like stormfront alot, or chimpout, but not others - neither of the previous sites, though the latter contains sometimes more elaborate derogatory portrations it also includes reference to personality traits that differ between members of such ethnicity - but , i foun that site after seeing somebody from kenya's title of burning spear military operating some UN project in liberia, whic i had watched a documentary on from vicetv, which was pretty horrendous'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so , just though i'd point out that they exist, for any curious'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'interesting was an article on the donner incident, and the revolution's interpretation of django unchained'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'also interesting is the new programs being implemented in DR Congo mentioned on the unmission website, but how news updates in various sections weren't updated since 2011 - 2010 in some portions, while majority of the un task force there is from egypt and possibly sudan iirc'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sounds like they got some decent objectives though'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Rand Paul got an answer, after 3 letters and a 13hr fillibusters, just a shame the answer was sorta-duplicitous'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and if they can't stop women being lawfully raped in tahrir square protest egypt, then how do their UN missionaries in DR congo project expect to implement their non-rape strategies (mentioned on unmissions), where women and children were raped in front of their male's in villages and things like that for years'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'part of the muslim brotherhood's thing is that women are property'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just saying, it seems odds to me are something fishy's going on there, like when i noticed canada's milano (model) charity agency's doctors having that stalin/hussein mustache'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'must be their fault'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'on a commercial'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if they all had guns....that kinda crap would stop.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd54pJLJwxo unicef canada'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yup, it would'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'some judicial figure told an inquest where a rape victim was giving evidence in a fight to get no-gun zones lifted off campus told her "a gun wouldn't have helped you fight off your raper"'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I bet if the US smuggled in tens of thousands of guns to women in those countries, the laws would change almost overnight as radical asshole men were killed in their sleep by armed women.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'can't give them guns, they're not america-hating terrorists'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i didn't watch it, but the other week (month) on history tv they had the remarkable democracy in south africa on, hour-two long program - but i read a report that in 2011, over 2,700,000 rapes occurred in south africa, that's the ones that were reported - and that 27% (estimated) of all south african males are rapists'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, we would use a gun smuggler to do it....we wouldnt actually do the smuggling....that is how we give weapons to africans and govts that we do not like.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'We sell to everyone, but we do it in public to our friends, and in private to our enemies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'obama's half brother did well in his election in a kenyan state'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, tsa screeners allow undercover fed agent through security with fake bomb'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'at least it wasent a fake agent with a real bomb'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You're Fired!'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i seen one the other year where homeland security or somebody posed as a counterfeit maintenance unit and infiltrated a nuclear facility'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'read it on one of them conspiracy sites maybe, or on a actual news site - but at least maybe they fix problems like that once they determine them'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You have any idea how hard it is to sabotage a nuclear power plant facility ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'practically impossible'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'no, i never really studied it, but they are delicate infrastructure'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're really not'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'delicate my butt...the ones in the US are fortresses'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the electricity distribution network is reasonably fragile, but the stations aren't'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you'd need to take out lots of points at the same time to have an effect over a wide area though'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'There is a reason it costs $15 billion to build a nuclear power plant in the US......they are extremely durable, and well designed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'But part of the reason of the huge price is also because they are all slightly different in engineering in the US....a standardized design using off the shelf parts would knock $5 billion off the price.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'well, innovation is part of the key to success (genius/pioneer) in anything, but monopoly shouldn't always make it more expensive than it actually is (why i like nationalism to some extent)'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the nuclear power plant designs in Japan on the other hand are not durable by comparison though....you would think a people as smart as the japanese would build a nuclear power plant on a earthquake fault to be more durable and have proper backup facilities that were flood proof....like our coastal nuclear plants.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'They really should have used waterproof housings for the backup diesel generators like we do here in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a town in south carolina figured out a way to put police offers in their schools without increasing taxes to do it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the school district put a police office in the schools where officers can do paperwork and such, instead of at the police dept.  It also allows the police to patrol the schools when they come and go....all they needed was the office and a wifi connection to do the paperwork.'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I guess obama didnt attend the chavez funeral....'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Can a square circle become a perpetual motion machine?'
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Just before the added restrictions to the trade embargo on cuba took place, JFK had his press secretary get as many cuban cigars as he could.  The press sec. came back with 1201 cuban cigars for JFK, and then the new embargo went into effect.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, there are over 12,000 cafes in Paris.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'are not!'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and I am going to go to all of them !'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '11 tps for sale, 33m'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'heehaw!'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'peeps are 60 years old this year, and more popular then ever.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rizgoth munches on some peeps.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'Didn't realize they lasted that long'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, I have 6 cases of them, and twinkies in my bunker.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'sure, lots of people prefer 'em stale'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the Just Born company that makes the peeps is a family owned candy business that is 90 years old.....I love family owned companies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'i love being able to buy peeps year round now :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, ever try making smores out of the peeps ? Yum.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The company, whose other brands are Hot Tamales, Mike and Ike, and Goldenberg's Peanut Chews, has never suffered an unprofitable year. '
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'candy is a good business to be in.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'nods. my camp used to give us peanut chews every night before lights out. it was all donated from them :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmmm'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'actually PA has a lot of candy makers now that i think about it'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, all those europeans who moved to that area back in the 1800s.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, Britain has HUGE chalk deposits......most of the southern part of the main island is chalk.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'now croquet is a real sport.....we need to elevate it to the NFL status.....the NCL.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, bulgarian stuffed peppers for dinner, with side of chicken, fraccia bread with bean dip, and wine.'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'How come slinky's are not made from metal anymore?'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'price?'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'They dont work as well made from plastic. :('
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Stop blaming fast food.....people are getting fatter because they exercise less then they used to in previous generations....period.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if ancel keys wasnt already dead, the bastard would deserve to be.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'He's the guy that decided cholesterol was dangerous because he said so?'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and talked the govt into changing how people eat'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yeah, and the weird thing is that it's still believed by some people and doctors.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the food pyramid, or plate whatever the govt calls it now is still based on it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'cholestrol is probably the most important nutrient in your body.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Heck, they probably still believe sugar is a harmless substance.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yeah, without cholesterol, we'd all just be a pile of goo.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'watching a food documentary called Fat Head.....I already knew most of what was in the docu, but it is quite enlightening.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yeah, seen it, it's pretty good. Especially when he rants about spurlock.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'cholestrol drugs have a nice disclaimer on them saying that they have not been proven to reduce strokes or heart attacks.....isnt that the whole point doctors put you on cholestrol lowering drugs in the first place?'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'So why take the drugs in the first place ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Cause big pharma paid the doctors to say so?'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'recent research is showing women with higher cholestrol levels tend to live longer then women with lower cholestrol levels....gee.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it seems to me that we should just eat the things that nature intended us to eat, and moderate flour/sugar/oils.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we are hardwired to love eating fat, sweet things like fruit and some veggies, and salty things.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and most meats come with the fat and salt already added in levels that nature intended.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'same with the fruits'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'actually, nature had nothing to do with it. Consumers of the meat adapted to the meat contents, the meat wasn't designed with the consumers in mind.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'personally, I try to keep my daily carbs under 130 per day, mostly fruit and veggies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I have a hard time getting above 100 grams...'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'fast food needs to switch back to animal tallow fats.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Ana, sounds like you believe in that evolution thingie... that's just a theory, didn't you know :P'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ranrr rapidly nods twice at Rizgoth, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I fry veggies in coconut oil and tallow, yummy and healthy.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'me too'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'love coconut oil'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'fried eggs in coconut oil...omg, the tastiest eggs ever cooked.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'No sir. Thats eggs fried in bacon fat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, I use the bacon fat to cook the hamburgers.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'the two are not mutually exclusive.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'and if you don't have enough bacon grease to do both - your problem is clearly you don't cook enough bacon'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I never get left over bacon fat... '
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Or any other fat'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, that is why coconut oil is important.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'That's not really possible, you realize, unless you don't cook anything with fat ever,, which.. is incredibly limiting'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I cook everything with loads of far... and use veggies to make sure I get all fat out of the pan.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'fat not far'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I also make my own ghee, definitely recommend it'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, whole wheat bread has a higher glycemic index then table sugar.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'You don't want all the fat out of the pan =o '
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'medium chain fatty acids from coconut oil is important....'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'You don't want your skillet to rust either =p'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I add coconut oil to the pan after I rinse it'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'You don't rinse cast iron =o'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Sure you do. Otherwise it gets full of carbonated junk after a while. '
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'Not if you clean it'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You just use water, though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'no =p'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'Water == death'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'So, how do you clean your cast iron?'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'Salt.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Now, that's a great way to kill cast iron. It removes all fat from it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or sand'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'No Ranrr, it doesn't.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I guess your cast iron is different from mine.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ranrr shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'Probably, in that it's actually cast iron, if it causes yours to rust =p'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'Shrug. You're welcome to be wrong. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I just wipe mine clean with a damp rag....works great for years now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'just be sure to season it, to keep it good.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You're also welcom to be wrong.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'shrug. I've got cast iron older then either of us, so I'm good'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'pretty sure the cast iron skillet my grandma has used for 50 years or more was cleaned the same way I clean mine....'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'shrug. Still, don't want to get them wet.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, if it is seasoned correctly, a little damp cloth to clean it isnt going to wipe away from the seasoning.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'No, but if it gets on any part of the pan thats not seasoned, it will rust.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'wipe away all the seasoning that is.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'havent had the problem yet, in 8 years so far. :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and I live near the ocean.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'which is not really relevant =p'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'sure it is, iron tends to rust when not protected from the salt in the air near the coastlines.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'Do you leave your cast iron pans on the beach?'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'so if it is protected from the salt in the ocean air, chances are it is still protected even though I use a damp rag to clean the skillet :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You dont need to keep your iron on the beach, the undercarriages of cars rust out all the time from ocean air if not protected.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'but my iron skillet does not :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'Thats not from ocean air. It happens from water getting kicked up on the undercarraige. It happens in areas where it snows a lot, where they salt the roads as well.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we dont get snow around here, or put salt on the roads, but vehicles still rust out the undercarriage.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'I didn't say you did.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Welcome to the hog-o-matic, the automated hog farm.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the US currently produces about 6200 calories per person per day in food.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'yuck....corn oil cheese :('
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, mosquitoes the size of quarters are expected to invade Florida this summer.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'this is a hilarious hitpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnBcNVxaNhE&feature=player_embedded'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doesn't even pretend to be fact-based or unbiased'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'which is probably just as well considering which tv station it's on ;-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'God told me facts are not necessary. Just faith.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's an oddity usually attributed to their opponents'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'as an outside observer, i'm seeing the rhetoric from both 'sides' becoming stronger, and both sides becoming more polarised'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the report out of SPLC they refer to talks about domestic terror threats arrising from "the fringe right" - i.e constitutionalists and conspiracy nuts, they cite several organisations then try and cast them in terms of race hatred. Only one of the speakers is correctly highlighting the common thread of the groups being critical of federal government overeach.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the only commonality between all the groups mentioned, and is completely missed by Chris Matthews and his goon were they were all most worried about the feds and states usurping the constitution and bill of rights. It's not touched on, not once. Instead they just refer back to race bating and strawman issues that aren't relevent, like birthers'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'appears that america are using private defence contractors to train anti-syrian jihadi's in Jordan'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'll attach "allegedly" to that for certain trolls'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's not allegedly.  Private contracting is the name of the game now, what with 2 somewhat unpopular wars still going on.'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it is a bug, it doesn't account for DST'
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it makes it so irl'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what is 'placeholder democracy'?  '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.zivljenjenadotik.si/en/reflection/text/show/article/angel-zgodovine-2011/'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'In exchange for supporting Thailand's admission to the United Nations, the Soviet Union demanded repeal of anticommunist legislation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Thailand is one thing i consider from memory'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'could be fake though, like everything on this machine'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'The most average characterless type of mind is quite sufficient to master and apply the various skills, scientific and other, needed to run our society. At the same time, the objects which we now make or manufacture require little or no imaginative effort on our part'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'The most average characterless type of mind is quite sufficient to master and apply the various skills, scientific and other, needed to run our society. At the same time, the objects which we now make or manufacture require little or no imaginative effort on our part; they are all the result of rational planning and design, of technical skill and efficiency, and we produce them--are forced to produce them--with the least possible personal struggle or commitment, entering into and becoming through producing them part of their objective, impersonal, and pitiless nature. (Phillip Sherrard) '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/public/articles/Modern_Science_and_the_Dehumanization_of_Man-by_Phillip_Sherrard.aspx'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'The year 2100 will see eugenics universally established. In past ages, the law governing the survival of the fittest roughly weeded out the less desirable strains. Then mans new sense of pity began to interfere with the ruthless workings of nature. As a result, we continue to keep alive and to breed the unfit. The only method compatible with our notions of civilization and the race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilization and the deliberate guidance of the mating instinct. Several European countries and a number of states of the American Union sterilize the criminal and the insane. This is not sufficient. The trend of opinion among eugenists is that we must make marriage more difficult. Certainly no one who is not a desirable parent should be permitted to produce progeny. A century from now it will no more occur to a normal person to mate with a person eugenically unfit than to marry a habitual criminal. (Nikolai Tesla)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/11/19/tesla-eugenics-and-rationalizing-dehumanization/'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'interesting kind of stuff, ersatz men, what's that exactly?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'A very revealing report has been published by the European Commission. In it we see the wide divide between the powers that be, the hangers-on and the public citizen. It is an interim report into the latest plans to dehumanise the smoker, or otherwise known as Report on the public consultation on the possible revision of the Tobacco Products Directive (2001/37/EC).'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4788'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what other kinds of dehumanizing objectifications can be discovered to the discerning mind's eye'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134956180/criminals-see-their-victims-as-less-than-human'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '.. hmm, does the established law too?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'kafir'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Reform_and_the_Psychology_of_Totalism'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'Doctrine over person. Members' personal experiences are subordinated to the sacred science and any contrary experiences must be denied or reinterpreted to fit the ideology of the group.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: ''you didn't saw what you saw', 'who is number 1?  you are number 6''
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'put on your command presence, soldier -> or is it maggot?  So, when it does happen, it can be helpful to understand what it is that allows human beings "to overcome the very deep and natural inhibitions they have against treating other people like game animals or vermin or dangerous predators."'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'Loading the Language. The group interprets or uses words and phrases in new ways so that often the outside world does not understand. This jargon consists of thought-terminating clichés, which serve to alter members' thought processes to conform to the group's way of thinking.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'Dispensing of existence. The group has the prerogative to decide who has the right to exist and who does not. This is usually not literal but means that those in the outside world are not saved, unenlightened, unconscious and they must be converted to the group's ideology. If they do not join the group or are critical of the group, then they must be rejected by the members. Thus, the outside world loses all credibility. In conjunction, should any member leave the group, he or she must be rejected also'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'has recently come under fire for controversial statements in which he allegedly endorsed death as a punishment for Islamic apostates. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/4/14/chaplains-e-mail-sparks-controversy-span-stylefont-weight/'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'can't see for anybody else though, who knows - all this is likely lies isn't it'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i just read it from google searches and websites, and news websites and video's and pictures and the news on television and news forgery's and the sense of humour and other things about the world, stuff that's like makeup on a clown really isn't it - damn whacko's anyways, the superior species must have alot of money for aliens to be a real threat http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/30/lkl.01.html'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's my lunacy for this channel for tonight, some considerable stuff there though, however real it is or not, that's something i try to determine with clowners like you'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'don't see me telling you the way it is without question on just about anything do you?  that's the way i seee it with that in mind, like the opinions of yours, seeing if you even have one :) which you may not, probably safest that way, like the calf learns from the heiffer to fear the little barking dog, and doesn't wonder where the steers balls end up'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'at least we're safe here in the world of honesty and truth and justice'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'we have to be criminals to deviate from the light of the world'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Federal tax revenue is forecast to hit a record $2.7 trillion this year, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, Judge halts NYC Soda ban'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no doubt he'll turn up dead, another victim of the Bloomberg mafia'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Illinois state accused of securities fraud'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or he will just go out and buy a soda at 7-11'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'soda doesnt make people fat....drinking half a gallon of it per day and not exercising does.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'diet soda makes you fatter than regular soda'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'as well as being linked to diabetes, cancer, and numerous neurological conditions'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'whcih are diet related illnesses.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they are, but that's not what causes diet soda to give people them'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'more than 70% of deaths in the US each year are from diet related illnesses.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLkigI9kJaU'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Senate Democrats in Colorado threaten to withhold payrises for sheriffs because they opposed gun control bills going through legistlature'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i believe that's called extortion'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irmiya: 'Booo'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irmiya: 'Yah'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's democrats for you ;-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irmiya: 'And corrupt globalist scum .. . . '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not sure what would prevent him arresting the senate leader'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's called democratic, 'Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. ' sheriff's and the people they police can have their taxes withheld from paying for their protection when their will is shown'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what is globalism?  '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '"If even people standing on different sides of the political spectrum, such as Hessel and Fukuyama, claim that democracy is in a crisis these days then the question that should be asked is whether 2011 has been the decisive year in which the right question about the right issue was finally asked? If this is so, then 2012 will be decisive for finally grasping what at first seems a paradoxal claim uttered by Alain Badiou when he said that the real enemy nowadays is not capitalism but (placeholder) democracy."'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.zivljenjenadotik.si/en/reflection/text/show/article/angel-zgodovine-2011/'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I prefer republics.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'democracy is dead'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'republics are better'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what is 'placeholder democracy'?   In exchange for supporting Thailand's admission to the United Nations, the Soviet Union demanded repeal of anticommunist legislation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Thailand'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'who supply's all of the war's and international foreign aid policy's in the world?  .. burning books and burning people, guess which means more.. but why?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'The most average characterless type of mind is quite sufficient to master and apply the various skills, scientific and other, needed to run our society. At the same time, the objects which we now make or manufacture require little or no imaginative effort on our part'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'The most average characterless type of mind is quite sufficient to master and apply the various skills, scientific and other, needed to run our society. At the same time, the objects which we now make or manufacture require little or no imaginative effort on our part; they are all the result of rational planning and design, of technical skill and efficiency, and we produce themare forced to produce themwith the least possible personal struggle or commitment, entering into and becoming through producing them part of their objective, impersonal, and pitiless nature.  (Phillip Sherrard)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/public/articles/Modern_Science_and_the_Dehumanization_of_Man-by_Phillip_Sherrard.aspx'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: ''ubermensch, untermensch''
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'chemosh couldn't stay away....'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ersatz men, http://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134956180/criminals-see-their-victims-as-less-than-human'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'The year 2100 will see eugenics universally established. In past ages, the law governing the survival of the fittest roughly weeded out the less desirable strains. Then mans new sense of pity began to interfere with the ruthless workings of nature. As a result, we continue to keep alive and to breed the unfit. The only method compatible with our notions of civilization and the race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilization and the deliberate guidance of the mating instinct. Several European countries and a number of states of the American Union sterilize the criminal and the insane. This is not sufficient. The trend of opinion among eugenists is that we must make marriage more difficult. Certainly no one who is not a desirable parent should be permitted to produce progeny. A century from now it will no more occur to a normal person to mate with a person eugenically unfit than to marry a habitual criminal. (Nikolai Tesla)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/11/19/tesla-eugenics-and-rationalizing-dehumanization/ (Kafir)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'real democracy's the proper kind, where everything from the media to education is agreed upon by the educated, but there's not very many of those left - only those characterless people'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you can see the reality of the world in their words though, contrasted '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'why is that the way it is?  there's why'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'real democracy isn't reliant upon the votes of only the educated, but concensus from everyone'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, and where's the people who make sure they understand things and aren't led around by a ogliarchy of nazi actors patrolling a international concentration camp'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'too late'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we need solutions'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or their communist alternatives'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'keeping them all stupid'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'gay marriage, be nice to muslims, syria danny is a isolated incident, supporting foreign religious militants is separation of church and state'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'other things like that'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we need solutions, the last decent country is about to fall off the cliff, what can you do?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'germans were knee deep in shit in their turkish nato post, patriot missiling the defense systems of the country that hate's them, from the syrian threat according to article i read on thelocal - syria such a threat.. to their enemy'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'from what i could gather looking through greek reflections on their neighbours and documentaries '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Syria was never a threat, neither is NK or Iran'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just somet hings i think on, based on concentration camp stories released every year and played at least one history documetnary on history tv or national geographic channel every day'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'hitler had a taste for little girls was the latest one they came up with on national geographic'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so, seeing things like that chinese art exhibition on the human body, mummified non-political prisoners travelling from solvenia to america to canada and all over the non-maoist world etc, i think on it like a double dosage of cyanide in my cigarettes democratically passed to the tax-payer funded senate into acceptance of the surgeon general in 2006 from japan'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there was a paper on dehumanization of smokers too, might be on debate -h smokers'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you can see dehumanization of other people too, like non-muslims which islam is great at doing - or albino's, which the blacks have a slavemaster oriented upper hand to antisemite any opposition to their atrocities against whites'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'like lighting them on fire in kansas and trayvon martin'ing the django unchained media coverage of the homosexual co-anchor of cooper keeping them honest as they publish their 'my jihad' campaign materials from harvard's chaplainic support for the release of black murderer's from prison's in california while demanding death of apostates in a email to his cohorts'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'coerced with the support of a rabbi on the latimes newspaper release on the governors highest ever pardoning, at least they're considering releasing some of the manson family though'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teenagers-poured-gasoline-boy-walking-home-school-set-fire-cops-article-1.1033062 guilty of being white, but you know what, they're holocaust survivors and any punishment would be anti-negritic'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not being racist, are you?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'no, just drawing some paralells between the methods of social engineering of jews, negroes, muslims, gay's and other liabilities'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nogs, well in the US, you're seeing the systematic demonising of patriots and vets'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, i see that'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'elsewhere you're seeing the demonising of nationalists in europe, and the demonising of Shia Islam in the middle east'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i support nationalists in europe'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's unchristian to have a one world community, where would the disciple shake the dust from his feet to'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the flaw with the one world government is that not everyone is the same. It works poorly to have a single sovereign government in large countries, so what were these people sniffing when they came up with the EU, or NAFTA, or NWO?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'international one world government is the end-result of marxist-leninism according to the brief description i read of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sounds about right'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'which started maoism and other things'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the modern idea of feminism was also started by associates of rabbi marx, in their american factions'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'feminism is bullshit'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but like you see, it's not all women being doctors and lawyers, having the freedom to show their tits is what they're most concerned about'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'as you see looking through the french news, fitting into the objectification of tesla discussed by sherrard there'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'might have started out as being a good idea to get rights for women, but it's turned into a way of cheapening the value of family'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'forced people to accept lower wages and living standards'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you don't agree, then consider that 70 years ago you could live off the earnings of one earned, now you need two'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/03/us/myjihad-campaign i'm not making this stuff up that i talk about, some is conclusions or observations i make about it, but it's coming from legitimate sources'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm not perfect, ru?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.1800politics.com/sympathy-for-dorner-cnn-anchor-embodies-devil-in-the-media/'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'knew about that as it happened'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://uhurunews.com/story?resource_name=christopher-dorner-and-the-revolutionary-struggle-for-black-power here's some black nationalist take on dorner, from what i could see'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i found burning spear through the title of a kenyan war general i observed in charge of UN operations in liberia, after watching a vicetv documentary from thence, and studying the programs they have planned in DR Congo on unmissions.org, how Egypt's women are systematically 'lawfully raped in Tahrir square' and elsewhere on the media, and how a peacekeeping force from thence will be able to implement them'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not sure what to make of that'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they got some interesting articles though, like one on bill and melinda gates foundation and a GMO monopoly in norway reflecting a suicide rate of farmers in india in debt and things like i heard on a documentary about monsanto involving a gonzalez from mexico and contaminated corn crops - so they're not all racist, and sometimes make some points'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nogs'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'interesting stuff, how the news updates on that unmissions website mostly went blank since 2011 - how a save the children (unicef) and red cross charity are the main supporters of a current protest against police in sweden profiling people to check the id's of in order to try to get some law and order there - and how the doctor's mustache reminds me of suddam hussein and josef stalin's in milano's save the children commercial in canada - for only 50 cents a day'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.thelocal.se/46644/20130310/'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'The Stockholm demonstration was organized by Youth Against Racism (Ungdom mot Rasism) and by the youth associations of the Swedish Red Cross and Swedish Save the Children.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'surprised anything remotely unbiased comes out of sweden'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZsBxw3R7Y notice the doctor is surprisingly similar to egyptian ethnicity, which is middle-eastern or other african continental, which is protesting in sweden for the swedish version of the exact same charity'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm not so sure he's a benevolent doctor the way his character appears to me, but she's such a temptress that it's hard to not support her - some more social engineering strategy'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'can you prove to me the critical help's system of non-misappropriation'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's what they seem to be to me though, terrorist funding organizations'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i read one article stating that 7% of 17 billion in foreign aid and charity donations to haiti actually was translated into humanitarian aid'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what was the rest spent on?  can probably buy all the whores in finnland for that price'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or anything else, like ammunition at arms shows in saudi arabia'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the article's mostly an atonement for having some justified bias, saying sorry for having any common sense'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'my interpretation of it was an elaboration on a larger system of thing's that i see'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if it was up to me i'd slash all foreign aid and immigration pamperings, deport all immigrants or put them in jail where they belong to dissuade any further infiltration attempts - after verifying the misappropriation'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i can tell who's there to live in the country and who's there to turn it into the one they came from'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'can't you?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyrep: 'like the ones that say "were takin over"?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, like them'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or the ones they have on video standing behind a british war memorial and chanting death to the infidels'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or the police who stood by in the 2011 london riots and defend the rapists and murderers but not their victims'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they should be training all european and other non-muslim nation's citizens to be their own military, giving them access to weapons to defend against the invading immigrants'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'otherwise you get swedish abuuuu , abooo, abah aboooo's'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=437_1329081948&comments=1'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'my island is full, in fact it's overpopulated by 125%, i'd rather you didn't send any here'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'fucked if i'd stand around and take that shit'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'make me wish i could have lived during the time of the third reich and joined hess in his campaign to attempt to show the future to europe'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You are not a member of the master race, sorry.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'hitler's hatred for slavic people was propaganda invented by their enemies, like disney cartoon's'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the mein kampf is unverified, but portrayed in soviet propaganda films authored by communists born in 1902 being pieced together in slave factory's, with knowledge of the question of the gulag operating until 1961'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'hitler's soldiers initiative to keep fighting was 'never surrender', his opponents was 'go or be shot by your commanding officer''
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'goebbels step grandchildren are worth $1.5 billion each today.....all 4 of them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the family made its money making munitions for the nazis.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so, who makes money selling weapons to africans and mid-easterners, and technological advancements to communist countries in asia'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Then they put their money into BMW and Daimler Benz.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'do they care much how many villages are raped in front of their husbands'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'BMW wouldnt even exist today if not for them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'in the old testament is several unavenged genocides that the jews conducted on 'inferior races', as reflected in that less than human article's sentiment, researching the term amalek and it's relation to german kaiser wilhelm's visit to palestine, and rabbi marx not being a conduit of any invasion operations like today'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ezra 9:9 indicates that the empire of persia, as geographically recorded, is the jews master - maybe that included the ottoman empire at one time, like gavrilo the great, and some visits by the queen alexandria and empress of france to turkey in the 1860's'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that means that iran and israel would never fight, actually operation overlord was plotted in tehran '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'depending how seriously they take that religious treaty today'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'hitler wasn't like that though, if he seen his people being violated, as reflected in the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM1h_2ujsvs , he would launch whatever weapons and develop them available to his disposal on his enemies - there wouldn't be no cold war cause it would be over by now'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how much territory can 10,000 nukes destroy for instance, what kind of biological and chemical weapons already exist but aren't used by traitors to the country's they pretend to be members of'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'while they're consumed by social parasites and ogliarchs that destroy everything they found valuable about living systematically, as verified by your ancestors reflections on history and how rotten the world is today in comparison'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just a bunch of balogne is all that runs this world, no real people have any power, only jokers who clown with your life like josef mendele, except without any criticism by the media he runs'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that video's my version of 'mein kampf' though'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the concept of ubermensch (as opposed to this is our land, which every nationalist has, ancestral roots etc) is written right there in your bible'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'god has chosen the jews and everybody else is a inferior species'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so when lookin for inspiration for conspiracy theories, you don'th ave to look much further than the ethnicity of the people who rewrote history, such as fritz fischer and klaus epstein'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and who's a master-races on earth, population of russia being 125 million, population of china being 1.43 billion, population of india being 1.24 billion etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'd say the ones who manage to feed themselves on the land mass provided, by importing materials from the others'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but that's my opinion, i only blame the disgusting world on satan after i rule out why the demons needed pigs to hide in the gospel story as being meatly oriented beings hiding from the space surrounding their spirits'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't care how much smarter than me anybody is, any strategy and plots of the devil human's heart i'll consider within my limits and see how much opposition they receive to see how accurate they are'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'guage*'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i shape it based on the reality i live in and witness, including my own psychosemetrics'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you'd never see the liberal media find any correlation or conspiracy in haitian 7%iles , that's too JFK of them, or unicef or the red cross, which carried ammunition for the allies during world war 2'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i never said i was against decent people - mine always follow a malginant potency that i attempt to clarify, and collaberate on, for clarification - that bothers people, like the khmer rouge'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but that's alright, cause they'll kill me anyways eventually - if i'm right'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'as their objectives realized in the tesla/sherrard posts etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i think bernard shaw praised islam , for it's great value for dictatorships needed to realize his unfit people's extermination goals, as one of the tools in his fabian box, he was a clown who sung to the highest canary's in the cave though'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm not sure hitler was catholic though, or took advice from muslims to support palestine - those are just things i read in history'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'otherwise why would fritz fischer blame national socialism on the lutheran church, which supported the german monarchy above the pope of rome'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'first non-italian pope in 450 years comes from poland after, stabilizing the damning history'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'hitler was a vet in ww1, which was started by a ottoman muslim's assassination of duke ferdinand of austria, which was allied with him'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'amok other things i consider, that's some of them - it's just not debated much on history tv or history class, because it's against the law in most countries'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'like canada the nazi who fought the nazi's, where i'm from - b'nai b'rith would have me locked in a cage in munster for this'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'canada held a revisionist historian from america before deporting him to germany in the 1970's, where his lawyer was imprisoned for attempted to defend him in court'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yet look how jews don't condemn muslims in the netions they condemn people who discuss history in, who history says advised hitler to prevent the jews from settling in palestine'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'in toronto recently, they set up a new office of religious freedom in a mosque, with a christian overseeing the project for social engineering purposes, by advise from a rabbi'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i reflect back on ezra 9:9 for inspiration'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'nice tolerant religion to show freedom of religion through'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i can visit a christian church with a upside down cross around my neck and a pentagram tattooed on my forhead, but i can't wear a swastika into a synagogue or a cartoon into a mosque'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'only 5 million of canadian tax dollars per year, not too bad'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they send 500,000 per year to a church in uganda, cause spreading the word in africa is part of the gold-mining industry's tax-ogliarbligations'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'probably mostly gets spent on corruption practices '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they waste 1 billion dollars on a g-summit in toronto, and filter your life through these machines, which could have hosted their summit on skype for 1000 dollars or less'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'then they cut some public services, bail out ford and gmc, send the jobs to china, slash 70 million off the cost of a million tonnes of potash not used in explosives'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'blame it on the poor, and take luxury flights across the world'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'all on the dole of the tax-payer, like glorified welfare bums who don't even invent their own reasons not to do their jobs'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i fail to see the irrelevance in a comparison between them and the ideological nazi they teach in warsaw ghetto documentaries'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'with all the police being jewish and wearing polish uniforms, except a reflection in a window'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i heard testimony though, the gulag was kinder than the nazi's'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'google (operated by jews, who advise north korea on their chinese maoist strategy's with the help of iran's development teams), heavily censors the re-discovery of testimony from german children living after ww2, and their punishment for speaking at night being to hold a freshly lit candle naked in a cold hallway until it burned out, failure to do so resulted in a undisclosed punishment'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but type in jew jew jew into google, and see what you get , that nice warning at the bottom of the page'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that article shouldn't be hard to find, it was released on spiegel or another newspaper in the last year or two, possibly guardian too'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'On May 1, 1945, hundreds of people committed mass suicide in the town of Demmin, in the Province of Pomerania (now in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern), Germany. The suicides occurred during a mass panic that was provoked by atrocities committed by soldiers of the Soviet Red Army, who had sacked the town the day before. Although death toll estimates vary, it is acknowledged to be the largest mass suicide ever recorded in Germany.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicide_in_Demmin'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werwolf'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The River Styx: 'Please stop talking to yourself Rab'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'continued through the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'jeffrey dahmer was just a disturbed young man, who worked for the us military as a army medical officer in germany'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'being labelled a criminal or an enemy by people like that doesn't bother me much'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but i'm just crazy so i'm alright with tooth decay, i seen that'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's funny to consider things like that though sometimes, say 100,000 immigrants come and they're all trained in warfare, and that's larger than your nations standing army - what would you do about it?  maybe halt the canadian coast guard and trust in the good nature of the shipping lanes to not provide them all with rifles?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'too bad, canada only has 32 mil people in it though, china probably has 10x that many soldiers on reserve'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'hoping on ww3 though, better to die killing your killers than in a concentration camp kneeling before a terrestrial egyptian repetition of god'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'imo, i guess some people think they'll win the raffle ticket into this version of the book of revelations, where god is really a human government that culls the herd once every couple cycles of the jain calendar'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'since the book of revelation is mostly fiction, that conjecture is not that relevant to what requires to be done (pre-assuming that anything is able to be done)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't like where the world's headed though, maybe it's just in the way i see it, from a negative mindset, like some insider attacks being armed by america'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'is fiction but to many people belive it is real... Zade'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'tesla's prophecy's are mostly fiction too, but that doesn't stop the world from  making them happen based on your reasoning'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the luddites were just observers, their predictions were fiction too, all man-made - so is the perfect dimensions of the new jerusalem in the book of revelations, where god created all diversity on earth from the , 'altar made of earth' where no 'manmade steps' may approach'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so basically Rabshakeh is admitting to a lack of benign holistic solutions yet  (wwiii is not a benign solution)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'easy to predict man though, and his desire to make the world in his own image is pretty obvious'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so making jokes based on ignorant human religions is one way they can go about things, however real any deity may be in reality, human's are all liars'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'troddling them through their religious hysteria into a desired outcome etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'like jim jones for instance, the cult leader - didn't mention jesus saying to satan when asked to jump off a cliff, the angels would catch him - 'it is written thou shalt not tempt the lord thy god', so jesus was asserting that by jumping off a cliff he would be tempting god, and satan is aware of that, being the tempter'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'ludicrous conjecture, a deeluded conjecture -- the "desires of men" are not about making the world into the "image of man"'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but there no manner of poison will affect them in their bible verse, like rattlesnake churches in texas - and they drank the poison'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so that whole scenario was because , i think, they omitted the other scenario from their temptation cult'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '(the urges to rabblerouse are leading to errored conjectures)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos . o O ( of course, that doesn't address why they killed the senator )
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what benign solutions, that's what your beurocrats are paid to ignore'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"what's the hurry"  maybe the world is unfolding according to schedule '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it is :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'new pope -- chance for the Malachy prophecies'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'did you hear what Larry Craig is using as his defense for his touchy-feelie moment in the bathroom?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'all them country leaders are in it for their own preservation, for a large percentage of them, and extension of their offspring's overseering over the ones of yours allowed to serve them in the future'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'he said as a member of congress he does his business there, so the use of campaign funds for legal expenses isn't illegal.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's what i think anyways'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'benign solutions is like hippies, protesting everything that's trendy to protest, ignoring things that they consider racist - like survival in some circumstances'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'is there any?  if there is , they sure don't show their plans and progress to the world on their mass media'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's all evolving into fuck, eat, die , and serve the masters for your privledges of providing their children with more slaves'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'where's the point in reality about it?  something good for a world war 3 , maybe some of the nuclear mutants left from the debris field will evolve into something more real than this trash we're in now'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'It will end like that yes, until apathy goes away... But is a personal choice...'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'tsk task --spoken like incompetent acedic fatalists without benign solutions'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so close and yet so far -- the opportunities'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i never claimed to have all the answers or solutions, just some opinions and some discourse that's considered politically incorrect, and crazy - like the lyrics to some music i like'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'eat your pinto beans!'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'most of human events on earth are evil, why you never hear of anything good on the news for instance - as you see how your community rotted in the last 20 years or so'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or not how, but wonder why.. and such a universal precept, it must be a global thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'good vs evil... what is good and what is evil? Maybe the definiton comes from the people incharge?...'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the history H2 channel tvseries "Modern Marvels" are 'good news' documentaries'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i guess so, like treason in a cult of serial killers would be not killing anybody'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'their holy writ demands it of them, it seems in some circumstances - i read about it in teh news every day'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'those concepts by Rabshakeh are not very useful to children'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'exactly.. and if the world is ruled by serial killers....'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if you eat more beans, it wont matter.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'then again children do say what they think and they want tho... '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'when i look at it, you know, should i think there's a heavenly beast angel force from the bottomless pit moving their powerful god - successes around the world, or look at it like an atheist first, and only after ruling out human corruption , as can be studied by the idle mind contemplating reality, from the possibile origins'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'eating some beans is healthy accorsding to Dr Oz'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'tsk, Rabshakeh went religious fictional, frothing and foaming out religious images before recanting into atheism -- (theisms and igorant atheisms are 'religions')'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so what if it is, should i fear them?  add some glimmering to the scales of leviathan - the king of the sons of pride, or steal some of his light and oppose him in eternity, which might make me less consumed by any bottomless pit his religion incarnates - like a black hole borg cube of forever, i'm more of a believer in god's who speak for themselves, and religions who's words reflect some series of rational judgement, as the gospel story exemplifies in certain portions'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what's to fear, they'll die too'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'won't they?  i guess if there is a maker, there does seem to be an unmaker about everything though'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't believe in puff the magic dragon just because i'll be shot if i don't, if you say ' i believe in puff the magic dragon ' to prevent being shot, you're one of the glimmers on leviathan's scales'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'do you live in a place they want you to belive in the magic dragon?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe it's ok to say, ' i believe in puff the magic dragon ' and believe ' because if i don't i'll be shot ', god is a discerner of the hearts, and minds and words according to the bible'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i read about akin places all the time, it's amazing stuff - fits into all kinds of puff scenario's, not limited to spirituality - from say i'm right and smile , to drink your piss because you want my money'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'money itself is a sort of puff the magic dragon that the world learned to worship over time'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'if you dont want to belive on it dont'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'except, the Puff is an allusion to drug use.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you think?  also the devil is a dragon, puff is what the wolf does in the three little pigs story, etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'maybe so, but Puff became popular in the late '60s and early '70s. Ditto for yellow submarines all other euphemisms.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's probably well written master-books on how to be a master and control large swathes of people in some of these government's archives, including religions'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'seen that fear works wonders, and doubt - well i think that's disgusting, but i seen a protest where they all think it's ok, i'm now isolated - but the isolated might actually be the majority, being guided by their propaganda master - and other scenario's like education'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how many animals besides human's don't demand honesty from their leader?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'are too cowardly lest they're bitten, cause one set of teeth can bite them all'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'maybe the urge to be lead is strong enough so who the leader is doesn't matter.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'to be led*'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how much benefit are you having today by following your leadership choices'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'is over 30 years of consistent and constant failure, with ever smaller increases being sufficient for prolonged support until the eternal dehumanization of your nation is complete'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it doesn't matter. People seem to need to be led. The urge is strong enough to override intellect.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'after all, intellect is only useful when there is a choice.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how many lies to your face is enough until you decide that your lives are at stake ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'there is always a choice'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, you can choose to miss the point and keep asking inane questions :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '1930's wasn't too far away, 2030's are shaping up to be pretty much identical, with different tools being implemented from the master's book'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that is not true, Ronda.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'it is'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Stick your head in water, see what choice you have.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'unless you lose consciousness, you are going to eventually jerk your head up.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you have no choice'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'depends on what i want to do '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'ok, have it your way.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i like people being in charge of their own destiny's, comprehending the war's they fight, and thinking of the word's they're told god ordered them to follow, the kind of person utilizing them and to what ends, etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'mindfulness - comprehensions, independence, cooperation instead of dictatorship, mutual obligation to understood goals etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the only power, ultimateonly on earth, that the kind of choiceless ness of anaristos has, is in masses of misguided people taking commands without question'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'just because one is in charge of one's destiny doesn't mean one at times is out of choices. All roads have points where you can only go one way. It is unrealistic to think that choice is necessary or even available at each instance of one's existence. Existentialism notwithstanding.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so may opine that depressive fatalist vitriole interspersed with religious cacophony and iconoclastic ranting are misdirections and thus also lies (and definitely not examples of "mindfulness - comprehensions, independence, cooperation") (and "independence" to reckless anarchy is not a smart suggestion)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'sounds a lot like BS to me :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's the opposite of what i said zade, but thanks for pointing out the type of thing i seen in the master of anaristos unstoppableness, that i am your leader mentality , suggesting that i'm empowering myself as usurper to those who already have'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'joust that guillotine knight'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'already pointed out contrasts in sherrard and tesla to consider, there's also shaw and some other groups there was some good questions geared towards'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'are you smarter than a 5th grader was also a indicator that , 'depressive fatalist vitriole' is anything other than sardonic irony for the chainsaw of the healer'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'what the hell are you talking about?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'on gossip a little while ago, i was talking about democratic education systems existing in democracy's, how on that program the adults don't usually know what the 5th graders know, and don't seem to ask the question why they're being taught that drivel for the first 12 years of their lives in school that they graduated from instead of something useful'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, only adults who failed to show up for the 5th grade don't know what a 5th-grader knows.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the chainsaw fit into my idea of zade's connection to tzadkiel and a latino skateboarder's entertainment value's, as seen through the morbid outlook zade reflect me as unexemplary for discoursing - the entertainment values of the 21st century'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'my donkie knows more then a 5th grader.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'this may come to a surprise to you, but adults where once children.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'not really, school system is largely inefficient and doesn't focus on the students ability to choose their interests and be guided into mastering what they choose etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you said "adults don't know what 5th-graders know", the only way that is possible is if said adults never went to the 5th-grade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there shouldn't need to be much of a gap between gradeschool and university either, and the costs?  they could pay for everybody's university education on one year of foreign aid and other wasted money in most nations'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'not really, people tend to put from mind what's useless or unused, which alot of knowledge from school is'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'putting it off one's mind (whatever that means) doesn't mean the knowledge goes away.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how come the success rate from schools in america for instance, is so low - 48% unemployment?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'amazing stuff, i think spains is high too'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you don't need to know about how masculine napoleon was in order to master mathematics and physics and become a rocket scientist'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'since the US is successful then one can come to the conclusion that education is not that important, overall.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the other classes are just window dressing to make you pay more money for crap you dont need.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'in california , 'texas chainsaw massacre' 'depressive fatalist vitriole' 'entertainment values' 'some aardwolfians', they're teaching children by mandate of the government now homosexual history in gradeschool - and chances are most of the parent's who's children attend that school are entertained by such and such entertainment values, but don't think much about the 'nazi youth' stories mentioned by the jews on history television, or the cold war that just ended a little while ago and how such things could be demoralization strategies, or dehumanization strategies (as the movie, entertainment values, pornography of democracy) are excellent examples used by them or their tesla predecessors etc - and have also reproduced to provide the children being educated, not questioning the wisdom of this addendum to their scholarly development, and success of their progeny in the future of the world'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'christ'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so my mind jumps from place to place a little more than your assembly language versions of perl, but that doesn't mean they're disconnected from significant earthly recourses of materialistic theology based on verifiable news mediums'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i think they made the latest one in 3d, how about django unchained, was that in 3d too?  13 ghosts was one of the first'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and inaddition to that, they outlawed therapy for children to overcome homosexual desires, as an option to parents - in california, as a crime against humanity'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elaisse: 'why would you give therapy to children for being left handed? Do you know they used to look on that as an abonimation...WRONGLY'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elaisse: 'abomination*'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that is , quite likely, a forgery of history - drawing light to the wise future we're in now, by the guiding hand of the liars who benefit it so little'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'another one i read was, if the woman didn't burn, she was a witch - or if she refused to drown, she was a witch'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elaisse: 'so if she burned they blew her out and let her go free?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'they didnt'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'a form of subliminal progress that doesn't really exist, but there's also people being shot in the head for advocating education in some parts of the world, so i guess the future holds the past for reflection - maybe at some point in time people have been stupid enough to cull left handed people for being warlocks'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'she died anyway, very sad part of the history... do you know is happening again in papa newguinea nowadays?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elaisse: 'hmm the future holds the past for reflection?? what...does that mean??'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'we as a species we dont learn?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the same kind of taboo's are murdering people more and more every day?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'seems that way, that's why i like what zade denounces and anaristos thinks is impossible more , understanding, comprehension and independence/cooperation rather than blind followers'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elaisse: 'I was afraid for a moment there that I no longer spoke english '
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i think god gave people minds to use, and should have warned adam and eve that a lie existed so they could expect it from the serpent'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I think god gave people fingers so that they wouldn't type by banging their face into the keyboard. But what do I know.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'on the other hand, it devles into faith of human eventual conformity to another reptition of witch hunting, by establishing that we had become enlightened in the future, only to lose our wisdom with time - like the wise leaders who lie so often'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'Do you write coherently first and then scramble the words up afterward?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'Or is it just a scrabble grab-bag for you?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i write for minds like yours to judge me'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'Rabshakeh is the Faulkner of Aardwolf.'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'most people will take advantage of the vulnerable, i watch how they operate and question how aware their victims were sometimes'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'did this my whole time growing up, just watching and learning and stuff , i never used what i learned, but i can see through alot of people'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'even the gospel teaches to be mindful and comprehending, jesus says 'forgive them father, for they know not what they do', not that they conscienciously partake in their own resolution, more like a  husk on the evil spirt cast forth by the priest (where the social engineers the crowd using his servants to free the killer in chanting, and crucify jesus), was aware of how dumb people were and akin to following stupidly behind the strategies of 'the devil', here being only a human priest - but the spirit was his work, that he prophecied that jesus should die (the high priest of the jews) and using people's mindless herd instinct when pilate gave them a choice instead of blindly obeying the jews, socially engineering them to comply with the death of their (good teacher)'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'having faith in eternal human stupidity and holocaust repetition syndrome is a adequate prediction for pessimism though, since the world isn't headed in a very good direction right now - how long has it went on for?  they're shooting skinny flicks on the bones under paris aren't they?  i imagine it's been going on for a long long time'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'mass-murder, repopulation, hedonism families leading the way into the future of, mass-murder, repopulation'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's what i think the eskimo's originallly migrated north for, in history - was leaving behind those kingdoms'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'cause back then artificial heat and stuff was less likely to perpetrate them to their adapted lifestyle of acceptable sacrifice'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'at least they had some self-respect until progress claimed it'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'now they'll learn more than a 5th grader and keep the oil-rig workers satisfied, imported from around the world on their globalist platform of progress'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they can also learn how they're knowledge thiefs from the ancient babylonians, and should come to 'insert religion here', with incentives in various forms subverting their sovereignty, like a legion of wendigo demon's in human form'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'little insider attack here, little helicopter attack there, they're up to all kinds of progress in the middle east aren't they, makes a guy wonder what they ever invented nukes for'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just in the news in the last couple days'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'rainstorm*'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i never seen anything worth fighting for across the ocean and 2000 miles of desert myself, but like any international communist statue of god, common sense isn't required to sell yourself to him'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'apparently the US (and UK) goverenments find it worth while to go across the ocean to fight for "freedom"'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, at least germany's war's made sense, their freedom was what they fought for'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You mean WWII?'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'look at the ever decreasing quality of life within the UK and USA, there's not much more disgusting you can ever find than is currently manifesting and multiplying itself in terms of human derogation'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'my quality of life isn't decreasing at all'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'according to the version of 'mein kampf' that i get from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM1h_2ujsvs , yes'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Well, that's because they have broken political systems, not just because they waste all their money on wars'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'If you think WWII was about giving freedom to germans, you need to study more history'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if you have money it increases, cause you can buy more people for less'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'isn't it wonderful, less demand for things they can't afford, more for me'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but i can afford to have them drink their piss for my pleasure of paying them some of my money, cause it's legitimate work opportunity'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i looked up , 'dekulakization', 'great purge' and 'holodomor', and seen some modern research and things like that to see what kind of non-freedom germany was fighting for'
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if they're both evil and just want to holocaust death camp everybody, why couldn't they share the fun together instead of fighting over who gets to take all the credit, which is only the loser in this case'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'There are always multiple reasons for wars, but it's rare that the attacker is fighting for freedom. Very rare. Can't think of any war on the top of my head, unless you count misc revolutions.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and atilla the hun was just paying some versailles taxes to rome for a holodomor living?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that evil hun, poisoned by his own brother, protected not by the saints who stand in rome over his defeat in statuesque eternity'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'mentioned in the video, hitler mentions a demand that he starves millions of germans to death to meet the agreement'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'one of the motivational factors in mobilization of world war 2'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You do know that hitler was insane, right? And somewhat biased.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'd have to meet him to determine that, but he sounded pretty sane compared to some of these others'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't know if anybody's perfectly sane or not, he was a world war 1 veteran though and had a memory of the country he fought for in the first place'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'He said the territory is poised to take the leap, take on more province-like responsibilities, and become less dependent on bureaucrats in Ottawa. http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/03/11/north-live-pm-nwt-devolution.html Based on last year's numbers, that would have added about $69 million to the territory's budget. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/01/25/pol-harper-appoints-5-new-senators.html I wonder, http://www.smh.com.au/world/china-colonel-raises-nuclear-spectre-20130122-2d56p.html -- http://www.parl.gc.ca/SenatorsMembers/Senate/SenatorsBiography/isenator_det.asp?senator_id=3570&M=M&Language=E , http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2012/12/31/business-potash-china.html Canpotex to ship 1 million tonnes of potash to China Reduced price will be $70 per tonne lower than March price .. (If you have paltalk , one yellowbeef speaks of ming vases and uses metaphors like his maoist sex camp in laos, for the tiger chasing the zebra, calling japan the wolf - from australia article, he '
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'tl;dr'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'he was speaking of his new job as senator in canada in the days prior to the cbc article), "Providing all-season access to the Arctic coast will further Canada's sovereignity interests" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward , http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/harpers-cabinet-mulls-massive-chinese-resource-project-in-arctic/article6752413/ , http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/story/2012/11/30/north-deh-cho-bridge.html , Year Established: 1979 , http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/03/05/pol-ndp-motion-abolish-senate.html (Immigrate singapore 1978 cover story)'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'his upcomming job..'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: ''America is the global tiger and Japan is Asia's wolf and both are now madly biting China,'' Colonel Liu said. ''Of all the animals, Chinese people hate the wolf the most.'''
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'something i noticed anyways, in my conspiracy world of a mind, i guess the islamification of Inuvik (moving mosque from winnepeg to there was big news) also plays a role, like 'the blessed ones' arriving from india in israel'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but, "The medium is the message" is a phrase coined by Marshall McLuhan meaning that the form of a medium embeds itself in the message, creating a symbiotic relationship by which the medium influences how the message is perceived.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i wonder where did the extra million from the potash from the useless senate go to, probably paid somebody's pleasure taxes'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/story/2010/09/23/north-mosque-inuvik-arrives.html , A professor from the Middle East is proposing that ancient Babylonians and the Gwich'in may have had something in common: the way they looked at the skies. http://nnsl.com/northern-news-services/stories/papers/feb14_13ast.html'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'human rights, office for 5 million tax dollars per year religious freedom in toronto mosque, etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2012/11/30/mb-human-rights-museum-staff-quit-winnipeg.html , traced to israel surname from ukraine, back through azerbaijan to a russian think tank with architectural connections to a MLB baseball stadium in the usa and a university in new york, which has a contributor to the research on 'terror management theory''
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so , twice to the cold war - IF day notwithstanding, homosexual and palestinian rights are the new concerns after the staff quit, probably with death-threats on their families'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'claimed to own an island off the coast of seattle'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.state.gov/e/rls/rmk/2011/174800.htm The United States' "New Silk Road" Strategy: What is it? Where is it Headed?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.news.az/articles/politics/73765 Elnur Aslanov: Freedom House = Coldwar House?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.azernews.az/region/47462.html Turkish president: Silk Road restoration to boost world economy '
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1492:_Conquest_of_Paradise on of Columbus's proposals was that they could trade with china, which christians couldn't do through the muslim territories'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'with asia*'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or 'the moors ' as they're called'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so you see where i see it's all interheaded to some extents'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's probably nothing though, seemed a little ironic to me'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Solomon asdasdff'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'some more ezra 9:9 irony, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory After being reminded of their death (experimental MS induction), Christian participants evaluated fellow Christians more positively, and Jewish participants more negatively, relative to the control condition.[24] Conversely, bolstering self-esteem in these scenarios leads to less worldview defense and derogation of dissimilar others.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'also 'was' links on news.az to articles about 54 us senators, warning's to a duchess of england not to oppose it's islamification, and the texas comptroller going for a visit for their XL pipeline or something'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or congressmen maybe it was, one or the other'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'not owning enough political influence in russia etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '. These men were crude, unbred, self-assertive people, pushers to the top, greedy and ambitious, excellent speculators and organizers, wizards of the factory and of the counting-house, with little or no time or patience for normal human needs or such old-fashioned pursuits as the chase, idleness, or the bed. Their great achievement in the nineteenth century was to standardize the factory slum as the normal type of urban dwelling and to extend the area of human and natural desolation at a rate never before reached. '
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/public/articles/Modern_Science_and_the_Dehumanization_of_Man-by_Phillip_Sherrard.aspx how much standards they have when it comes to saving their own hides than pretending to represent or value the land they reign supreme on behalf of'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Gee, the newcons want to replace the most efficient healthcare system in the world, namely medicare, and in its place the most inefficient healthcare system in the world, private insurance.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'how about we give people the right to choose....open up medicare to more people, and see how private insurance competes with medicare by becoming more efficient.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Rizpope!'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the powder from the drilled rock on Mars turned out to have a wealth of chemicals in it, including sulfur, nitrogen, hydrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and carbon.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'wow, a 2 million miles across blackhole and it is spinning close to the speed of light.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they found another ultramassive black hole?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it is 60 million light years away from Earth, in the Galaxy NGC 1365'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tasty Tipro: 'Oh lord the Dem's budget is shaping up nicely. A trillion in new revenue (I assume over a decade) and not even looking at balancing the budget. What or what are they going to spend it on?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brujah: 'Military.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Don't you worry about that. Everyone gets diabetes and passes 65 years, and I'm sure a war or two can be arranged.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'where do they think a trillion is coming from?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you want 60% tax rates from $0 up?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Maryland woman ticketed for driving 2mph UNDER the speed limit in left hand lane'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tharnin: 'Obstruction of traffic.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it can't be'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brujah: 'Hahaha Maryland, you so crazy.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'We have signs in my state (NC) that say "slower traffic keep right"'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sounds like a scam to me'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'and you have to follow road signs'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how did anyone with a name like "Rachel Madcow" get a show on telly?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'she likes beef.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts turns cowlike eyes on you, chews his cud, and moos plaintively.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'her name is Rachel Maddow, but it might as well be Madcow because she's so freakishly bonkers.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'looks suspiciously like a dike, too'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sorry, dyke'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'she's kinda like the liberal version of Glen Beck'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'looks like a man-hating lesbian'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'probably means she laps up this nannying police state like it was cum'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'she hates women, too'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'do you guys have ANY tv hosts that don't look like dicks?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'sarah palin'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not a tv host'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'look, or act?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'both'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the young turk is about the nearest you've got'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and ben swann'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'vetinarian care costs going up due to the obamacare tax on medical equipment and supplies'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Feds spend $1.5m to "study why lesbians are fat"'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's because they eat so much fish.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'perhaps all that hate makes them put on weight'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'what makes you think that lesbians hate any one?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'stereotyping, tendancy to be militant feminists'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'amazing'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'independant film doesn't lie.  Except about the weight, since the camara adds 10 lbs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'is this where Anaristos castigates me for making generalisations?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you admitted that it was a stereotype, so don't need to add anything.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it is in this day and age that homosexuality carries a stigma. So any "studies" are necessarily biased.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'As the debate over removing neger intensified, there was a backlash. Die Welt likened those who would change offensive language to the Taliban, thundering: "Anyone who believes art should be changed in retrospect because it contradicts the prevailing morality must have been pleased in 2001 when the Taliban destroyed the Buddhas of Bamiyan." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21702989'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'negroes on the rampage while they chop up white people with no fear of being called on their racisms in tanzania and other black countries, trying to mind conformity the repentant nazi race of slavocrats'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i agree with them though, like in the mark twain novels, the use of the term 'slave' showed how the boys perceived the person they seen as a person, who called neger then in america'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so they're trying to stoke black racism in people and their acceptance of abuse like people born after 1930 being capable of being nazi war criminals to pay for the sins'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'things like that is what i see about it anyways'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'them = the people's arguement from the article'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ban ki moon condemns with crocodile tears from the silk nile road the burning of a book that nails people to crosses , dismembers them and shows them the light of the message within - obviously words mean alot more to certain subspecies of human than reality'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'Black Man Repeatedly Punches Blind White Woman on Bus in Seattle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uln9cwUFOs'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'A man sitting next to the woman stood up and said, "You don't hit a blind woman," to which Hughs responded, "God told me to kill her, don't get in my way or I'll have to punish you."'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yeah, black men are something else. They should be more like white people, personally non-violent. If they are going to do damge they drop atomic bombs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'Vince Li tells schizophrenia society CEO he believed he 'was like the second coming of Christ' http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2012/05/22/mb-vince-li-schizophrenia-interview-manitoba.html'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'couple examples anyways, one is given the light of christ, the others is taking orders from god himself - one is more on the ki moon side of being than the original reflection'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so, why do you name the races of the participants in your second point? How is it relevant?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it was about the subspecies and what they find important about reality, words or itself - and a couple examples that flew off the deep end, if i was going to demonize somebody like their mass media urges'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'russia mentions on some news sites there that they like to consume foetus's in parts of china for instance'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'subspecies? what subspicies?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'we're all humans aren't we, so we're subspecies of human - and certain ones make issues out of non-issues while others are more rational'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'what are the human subspecies?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'more often*'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brujah: 'hobbits are a human subspecies'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the platypus is proof that nature is as god intended it'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'wich god?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't know, it seems to be one animal without many subspecies though'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'There are thousands of animals without any discovered subspecies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I think what you mean is that it's the only known representative of its family.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'living, that is'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'several extinct ones'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the platipus is not a subpecies, is genus'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the lowest genus of class mammalia'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'every animal belongs to a species...'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'true'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'And what is "lowest genus"?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I just wondered what the human subspecies were'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'The only extant subspecies of homo sapien is homo sapien sapien'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'by lowest it is meant the closest to the next class in the tree'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the next lower class'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Though there are extinct homo sapien subspecies'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the next lower class would be Aves'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'homo sapiens sapiens isn't extinct.  It's the only one still alive.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'extant = living'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yes, there are extinct subspecies, I was wondering about the current ones.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I would like to increase my knowledge base.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'through accident, coincidence, biology, and premeditation, all the other subspecies have been wiped out or subsumed within our genome.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I know, Hanslanda. I was referring to a line above by Rabshakeh'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I don't think anyone premeditated the extinction of the other subspecies'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'You debate: 'so, why do you name the races of the participants in your second point? How is it relevant?''
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: '(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it was about the subspecies and what they find important about reality, words or itself - and a couple examples that flew off the deep end, if i was going to demonize somebody like their mass media urges'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'yes, we did.  Not exactly in the Hitler fashion, but we arrived on the scene and realized we couldn't (or didn't want to) share the resources.  Sometimes it was simply our bigger brains that allowed us to fashion better tools and more efficient strategies, but sometimes we were in the mood to brutalize the lowbrowed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you missed my point.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if you were to theorize that evolution is one thing on top of another and albino negroes are witchcraft ingredients chopped up by machete's for good luck in politics, and were to look at the whitening of their skin as something that may have eveloped into caucasoids, then seeing the woodpeckers standing on the giraffe's neck isn't too hard to do'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'killer whales were interesting though, when i think of subspecies and natural breeding patterns, their last intermingling was over 500 years ago according to marine biologists'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they speak different languages too'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they don't think it's racist to breed apart'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Assuming you mean resident and transient ones, they haven't bred in about 10,000 years'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'They also might be different species, though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or maybe they do, who knows - needs some marine neurologists to compare the racist materialism in the human brain to that in animals to determine if difference is natural to consider'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I'm pretty sure there's been an example of interracial human breeding in the past 10,000 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sure, some naturally - but societies have been conquered by invasive species (societies of foreigners) over and over throughout recorded history, some recognizable similarities in individuals can be physically and mentally determined though, as being more or less instinctual'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'a race is not a subspecies, races are environmental chances. To twist a pun, at a distance all humans look alike.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'my point was that a man beating a blind woman was heinous by itself. To point out that a black man was beating a blind white woman was an attempt to add something to the the event. '
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that's awful sexist.  Why's it gotta be a blind woman?'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'to attempt to call indicating there might be more to the event than meets the eye is racism, while there is alot of black racist crimes being carried out in the world, is almost like a psychological warfare strategy - where indicating why this is not a twisted transistor would be the unoffensive approach'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that was the statement. I assumed that it was a factual event.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'getting all zade with some musical elements and stuff'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'if your point is that a man beating a woman because god told him to do so, then the race doesn't matter.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'besides, if both the man and the woman had been white, you would not have mentioned the race.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'study up on the united nawubian nation of moors, the nation of islam, the black panther party, the use of the demonized n-word in rap music played to all teenage MTV viewers and in earshot of whoever they please, etc '
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'depends on whether you are claiming that Islamists are driven by the voices of god, or that black Islamists beat up white  blind women.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'white boy being burned by gasoline toting negroes for the crime of being white in kansas, which received almost no media attention at all - while the reverse scenario would be more like your less-than-likely scenario of drawing a 'twisted transistor' out of the situation in the case of traven martin - who inspired many more black crimes'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yeah, those poor white people always being in terror of all those negroes. I feel for you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'dude, stop throwing the n-word around so casually!  It's offensive!'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teenagers-poured-gasoline-boy-walking-home-school-set-fire-cops-article-1.1033062 , ok so just cause they set him on fire for being white and stuff doesn't mean it was cause they're racist, http://www.theroot.com/buzz/trayvon-martin-latest-week-54 but 54 weeks later, and the white nationalist evil white devil law breaking latino.. not even the typical white devil, is still on front page news as being the martyr for crucifying all whites until they're bred out of existance'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'anyway, that was my point, Hanslanda. To show him for the racist he is.'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'until every establishment is firmly under non-white control to prevent such travesties in the future, etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what if white people would have lit a black kid on fire for being black, would we be on week 540 by now?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'be happy, Rabshakeh. Black  kids are often kidnapped and they don't even make page 20, but let one white kid be kidnapped and you get national headlines and federal manhunts across national boundaries.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'there's more of that racism shining through.  It's getting boring...'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'kinda like tuning out amber alerts on tv and mobile device.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yeah :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Good idea, Rab, let's solve racism by putting black people in control everywhere. That's going to make things better.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'well, that's what they indicate's happening, muslims, blacks, jews, chinese, indians - on alot of the mass media of international currents and things like that'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'heh, was talking about you, Ana.  Thank Walt for internet-era attention spans. :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe it's not as bad as the media portrays it though'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and homosexuals and feminists.. all these kinds of modern empowerments taking the reigns, but typically only in historically white nations'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'except in the case of muslims, where they're going across africa and everywhere else, seeming to find ways to overcome their way through the top ranks of every society on earth'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they're not really a race of people though, they stem from a certain part of the world - like ottoman/persia'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Walt would agree with Rabshakeh. He was a sweetheart of a man.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'So would hitler.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but are they, cause the old testament mentions that you have to physically be a progeny of isaac to be considered human enough to not be damned by god, or be equal to jews among them in their cities, otherwise you would never attain a rank of power or persuasion such as a priest, which was also genetic'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Just replace a few words.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Walt agreed with Hitler'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'cause they were god's chosen people in the bible's own words, - the book of roman's attempts to de-racialize the concept of god presented by the race jesus came through, insisting that it was a metaphysical type of spiritual self that god looked for in individuals'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Speaking of whales and evolution:  http://bizarrocomics.com/files/2013/03/bz-panel-03-07-13.jpg'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'oh, btw, Rabshakeh. Isaac wasn't white, so where does that put you? According to you that makes you non-human :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'good one, Leinei :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but god made all diversity on earth according to what reality looks like, except for what man invented, but even that's pretty miraculous alot of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if there's going to be a creator - at least creation would have been like a 1 or a 0 in binary if it was to be identically perfect'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Chemosh, is that you?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Nah, this is more racism than conspiracy-theory.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'why would you think a creator would do it that way?  Particular one attributed with being able to do anything.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and why would a creator be human enough to need to belong to a race?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't know, the book of genesis says that on the seventh day he looked back on all he had created and was well pleased, 'all manner of beasts of the field, and crawling things and birds and people, the seas and lands and constellations and firmaments and all that stuff' even if it's not skycloud in scientific rationality , at least that's an indicator that god wasn't very racist until later'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that he invented the diversity, why?  who knows - why when you dream don't you dream in third person and listen to the leather crinkle on your teamates gasp for breath in resident evil 5, like narccisus'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'a narcissist*'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'The bible is full of things that doesn't make sense, like all bad fiction.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or focus on a imaginary group of lemmings, which you can't individually be all at the same time, but which cumulatively can imagine in form of several, chanting to your imagination, which is holding them together for the purpose of saying your name out loud'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'not neccessarily jumping off a 'white wilderness disney cliff' , but i guess that got inserted with anaristos mention of walt and my memory of a disney cartoon i seen'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I have a question: When god created man in his(!) own image. Which race did he choose?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'he chose the human race, naturally.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's rather immodest to say that we're older than the creator, though, so you could say we're simply a race of gods.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it would be ridiculous to say we are older than the creator. Though, basically, I don't think there is one. '
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ixle: 'If anyone didn't hear, the guy who filmed Romney's "47%" comments is going to be on the Ed Show on MSNBC tomorrow.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ixle: 'First time he's gone public'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the Dead show ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Sweet liberal orgasam! I gotta see that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, there is an ammo shortage in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'The Obama administration is drawing up plans to give all U.S. spy agencies full access to a massive database that contains financial data on American citizens and others who bank in the country, according to a Treasury Department document seen by Reuters.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'thus the spy control-grid deepens'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'New Jersey eoman arrested for reciting constiutution at Tax Meeting'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Why?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Democrats float the idea of a 2016 ticket of Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'obama's ass is too big, she makes the other donkies look bad.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's the kind of shit i'd expect them to pull, really'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i.e, "gimmick"'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'besides, clinton wont win with obama on the ticket.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'does seem to be going south, doesn't it?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Jeb Bush will get a landslide if the democrats did.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'I wouldn't vote for Jeb'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'republicans must have a death wish if they stick him on the ticket'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, he is a real moderate.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I wouldnt vote for him though, unless sarah palin didnt run !'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they'd be better off with a Paul/Cruz ticket'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the younger paul is too neoconish for me.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and the older one is too old now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he's as least-neocon as you're going to get in the GOP'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'personally i'd have done with the fucking lot of them, but that's likely not going to happen'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Its a shame that perry wont run in 2016....he enjoys running Texas, and creating controversies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Perry is a bigger neocon than Paul'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, he is pro business and pro people, that isnt neocon'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he is also pro energy'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'all the things i like.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'selling off your roads to Spanish companies?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'They paid a lot for it, and it is one of hundreds'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's the main trans-nafta highway'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and you dont HAVE to use it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no it isnt.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's what it's GOING to be'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Texas 1 hasnt been built yet.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and it most likely wont ever be built.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's going to use parts of existing routes, and yes it will, it's been signed'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'L.A Times announces: White men are terrorists'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'this advert by democrat group on AOL: http://tinyurl.com/am45zeu'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'for  snicker bars ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, demanding Sarah Palin retracts/apologises for her comments about the DHS buying 1.6bn rounds of ammunition, claiming it's wrong and dangerous to draw attention to it'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the normal "fake liberal" drivel, has nothing really to do with democrat ideology'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'wish I could buy 1.6 billion rounds of ammo.....I am stuck with buying 500 rounds :('
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'The Royal Commission to Investigate the Facts Relating to and the Circumstances Surrounding the Communication, by Public Officials and Other Persons in Positions of Trust, of Secret and Confidential Information to Agents of a Foreign Power,[1] more popularly known as the KellockTaschereau Commission or the Gouzenko Affair, was a Royal Commission appointed by Rt. Hon. Mackenzie King on behalf of the Government of Canada under Order in Council P. C. 411 on February 5, 1946 to investigate the allegations set forward by Igor Gouzenko that a spy ring of Canadian Communists was handing over secret and top secret information to the Soviet Union. -- http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/10/10/ns-delisle-spy-hearing.html'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doesn't surprise me at all'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROFUNC , In the early 1980s, the then Toronto Liberal Member of Parliament and Solicitor General of Canada, Bob Kaplan, caused PROFUNC to become defunct[1] by introducing administrative changes entailing the RCMP to discontinue whatever was contributing to superannuated communists encountering problems while attempting to cross the Canada  United States border.[7] Kaplan claims to have had no knowledge of PROFUNC until advised of it by journalists in 2010 and that he was dismayed by its existence, "I just cant believe it had any government authorization behind it", said Kaplan.[3]'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'seen that yesterday while following some links from the 1973 oil crises, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis somehow'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'trouble with having families in politics i guess, or any connection to the world, is the possibility of them being used to influence you to betray the 'larger community', inherent problem with keeping a centralized ogliarchal system over a stupid majority'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i wonder if the kgb has stories like Sasha (espionage) in it's past too'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or some of them other puppetmasters'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'aw, a new pope.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, thing i immediately remembered was the mediation strategy, indicating who they may be'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'lots of catholics in the world, 1.2 billion they say, most religions evolve into governments (or from)'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Argentinian pope, entirely predictable really'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'I don't know if it was entirely predictable, but it also wasn't a shock'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'a south american pope was extremely predictable ;-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'yeah, but I personally though there was an outside chance of some african cardinal getting it'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or a south african nazi pope.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't think that was ever nearly as likely as american media painted it'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'american liberal media is just obsessed with black people'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'well, I don't disagree with that'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it was always going to be either a latino from south america or the italian choice'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'my thought process is that's where there's a lot of growth for the Catholic church right now, so I thought they may go with a Pope from that region'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'an Iranian pope would have been cool.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Jihad!'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'heh'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'an Iranian pope would have been somewhat unlikely'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'new Iranian president soon'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, the same one :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'won't be the same one'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ahmi is stepping down ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'coming to the end of his term'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the guy has been 'elected' 3-4 times.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'twice'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'cannot serve more than two consecutive terms'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'thus he cannot stand in 2013'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I would like to be elected president of Iran.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doubt you'd be approved'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'could you imagine how many killers you'd have to put faith in in order to be a president or something like that?  especially in some places..'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'think so ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'candidates must be approved by the Council of Guardians, it's not terribly different to the USA's presidential process'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's people who think they can change the world and stuff but, i don't think being up top is really as good as it looks from the bottom'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they still got their problems'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'thanks to obama, our presidency is a 24 hour golf game now. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Obama is certainly polarising the country quite badly'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'worse than Clinton did'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, clinton was awesome, he worked with both the repubs and democrats'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not talking about the politicians, talking about the people'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'every past president of Iran is still alive'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'iran is one of the better countries in the persian gulf, regardless of the situation with the west.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the citizens have more freedoms in iran than the other muslim countries.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'would have been better yet had USA/UK not overthrown the democratically elected government there in the 1950s which lead to the current Theocracy'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but yes, they do'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i read once that anti-american sentiment was spread there alot during the cold war, mostly social engineering i think when it comes down to the person to person aspect of what they hate, the minority set who engineers them all is who's probably mostly responsible for the problems of any nations in history'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I dont think the iranian govt is suicidal though...they talk alot of rhetoric about israel, but I dont think they would use the bomb to attack israel.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they have plenty of reason to hate america, it didn't need fermenting'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'first the coupe, then funding Saddam in the 8yr war'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'now these crazy sanctions'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'I have found someone that I dislike more than Obama'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Michael Moore?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'nope'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'Piers Morgan'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Piers Morgan lol,was about to say that'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'I'd pay you good money if you'd take him back'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'fuck no, you can keep him'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he won't come back, chances he'll get arrested'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we should ship him off to Australia :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'he's one of those people that I just cant' understand why people keep putting him on t.v.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's incredible how much influence oil has in politics though, that one movie i mentioned 'conquest of paradise' has columbus proposing to the funders of his adventure that they find a way to reach the shores of asia for trade, because the muslims (moors) wouldn't let non-muslims through'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the left needed a mouthpiece'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's what i remembered when i read about the 1973 oil crisis, and it's interdependent purposes'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we've got plenty more idiots we'd like to send you'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'up there i think alot of things could be done differently though, like not everybody sits on a golden toilet - why should they fight over gold en masse as a top priority'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'fresh from entirely screwing up -our- country, they can come to you to aid the ongoing effort to wreck yours. Aren't you glad we're so nice and share stuff like that?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'we have enough idiots over here, we don't need more'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'we can't even handle the ones we have'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'sure we can, that is why you buy some guns.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you think they're idiots? damn, you must be one of those dangerous terrorist types'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you don't want your country fucked up by idiots, you're one of those extremist terrorist types, or a racist'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '(and that's the fake liberal 'meme' doing the rounds)'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'Im probably both'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'apparently the Left wants to turn Texas into a battleground state'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, a battleground where we bury idiots in the sand of west Texas.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'in 30 million years, they will turn to oil.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're going to lose Texas to them, Riz'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're sending all the dependents over from California, and importing millions from Mexico'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they'll turn your state blue, fuck it up with gun controls, nanny-state nit picking, then just bankrupt it'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's intimidating sometimes how much faith problem solvers put in statistics like that, predicting 30 million years from the scientific accumulations of the last 300, and risking being wrong on them'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and science predicts that the earth is 4.8 billion years old or 2.4, humanity is 60-80,000'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'look on the bright side, gold is down a bit, but it's holding it's value in sterline because they devalued'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'silver the only one that matters.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i can't buy silver :-('
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'subject to a 20% tax here'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'any reason why it is subject to such a high tax?'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'value added tax, considered a luxury'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or, for you guys, a sales tax'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'applies to most things except a few basic foodstuffs, childrens clothes, couple of other exemptions i can't think off offhand'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'which is stupid....gold is the luxury, industrial wise is it worthless, but silver has real value.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'gold is tax-free, oddly'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'probably a historic thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no doubt they'll tax gold if people start moving into it'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'gold has a lot of applications in electronics, and some in medical, so I don't know if it's worthless'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'silver has over 8000 industrial uses right now, and more are added every year :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'gold will never be worthless, it's undergoing a 'consolidation' at the moment, though don't expect it to rocket up until next year'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'almost 98% of all the gold mined in the last 2000 years still exists, unlike silver.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and we currently use more silver per year then is mined each year.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'industrial uses and stuff, but how much of it is neccessary?  '
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'almost all of it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'exactly, for what ?  machines of war, any household utility'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'pretty soon microscopic pieces of silver will be in your clothes, to help fight bacteria and infection when you get hurt.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they probably have vaults of millions of tonnes of stuff like that in some places, like oil - i doubt it all gets consumed as much as produced, there's probably stockpiles of a thousand years at current consumption rates in certain regions'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'this is true, because of antibiotic resistant bugs'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'developing a replacement for hollowing out the earth for a continual living and things like that's what i think more should be done about'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i seen that they don't seem to use or further some parts in science and things like that, cause they're not part of a monopoly on those minerals'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'science suppression for financial gain does happen'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sherrard put it good though, how man has come out of the dark into the light and into nothingness kind of thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/public/articles/Modern_Science_and_the_Dehumanization_of_Man-by_Phillip_Sherrard.aspx'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'more common is sharp practices like Montsanto and their GM patents and licensing of, and numerous pharma companies taking something that is free or cheap, 'tweaking' it, then patenting it and charging a fortune for it'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, i don't think that should happen as much as it does - and things like the chemical treadmill they put alot of the world's food supply on'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'considering things like the failed crops of 1971 of corn and biodiversity, and killing by hunger holodomor in 1930's'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's alot of more nature-friendly yet sufficient methods of producing food, i think, than they currently use - sustainability'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or canola is worth alot of money, always the best paying seed for farmers in alot of agricultural zones - and probably alot of it gets turned into fuels, but there's things like that shrub which can grow in a desert (and possibly overtime, the desert evolves into a fertile land), and be used for energy - while the land formerly used for canola fuel could have lessened the chemical treadmill if the land canola was grown on is cycled through crops of food-grain, which is more abundant thanks to the cactus'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but there's also problems like population control and societies and things like that to think about, but that's some things i noticed'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'vegetable oil is bad for your health.....use coconut oil.'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'reclaiming desert is the big elephant that isn't in the room - it proves that global warming is a hoax, else they'd be doing it'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the current global warming strategy is much like austerity in budget terms, they're trying to curb production rather than increase consumption'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't remember seeing -any- attempt to increase consumption in -any- document or plan, because that doesn't increase taxation and control'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090220183706.htm there's that shrub i read about, haven't heard much else about it - but they do say a significant portion of the earths land-surface is covered in desert'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tintin: 'otoh all the money printing, low interest rates and general corruption is intended to raise consumption (or at least maintain it a an otherwise unsustainable level)'
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'co2 consumption, not product consumption tintin'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'he was here a long time after he renamed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://knowledge.ca/program/afghanistan-the-great-game is a pretty good watch, about the history of britain being defeated by afghanistan with some modern day investigation and commentary'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'makes mention of a garrison of 17,000 people or so who agreed to hand over their weapons and leave the country as quick as possible.. 10 days march away, and on the 2nd-3rd they got hammered, and rolls royce and things like that, it was pretty neat'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'in the 1800's'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i noticed a bbc article on japan's comfort women yesterday, and recalled a porno i seen with a soldier in khaki's holding a gun to some women's heads and telling them to jump in a gymnaseum or something'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'not sure if that's all behind them, if they got soldiers doing that today, not sure if they're all japanese or role playing or not'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'his camo uniform*'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but at least world war 1 ended'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21226068 there's that article, i could hunt down the porno i looked over too, or you could look through the archives and see what i mean'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's kind of neat that germany was allied with china / associated till 1941, when that weatherbeacon, 'the hump' operation for naval logistics began, probably take awhile to learn how it all went together'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or was that 1943'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/marines-china is a good article i read about it, i read into things too much though.. '
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.taiwan.gov.tw/friendship100/story_content.asp?code=B&citem=B02&lang=en they still remember stuff like that though'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a Toyota Prius hybrid emits 0.6 tonne of carbon dioxide a year against zero for a Leaf. Scaling up the Leaf's subsidies means Norway is paying $13,600 to avoid a tonne of emissions, a stratospherically expensive policy since the right to emit a tonne of carbon dioxide costs about 4 euros on the EU's carbon market.'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, a 600 year old chinese coin was found in Kenya.'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Obama lying about Iran's nuclear weapon ability to drum up war threat'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so what is the Obama administration projected or conjectured gameplan with Iran'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'arbitrarily selecting "1 year" as the time it will take Iran to get a nuke as a pretext to invade'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'prior to his visit with Israel'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you might as well say any industrialised nation is only 1 year from a nuke'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if they invade Iran because they might have nukes in a year's time, then they need to invade Israel right now because they already do'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'posturing to get something, or as a prelude to invasion, or as an attempt to be popular among the jews during the Israel visit'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nods'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doesn't help, should stop the sanctions and stop annoying them'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Iran are well aware of the score, say nothing - if they actually -make- a nuke, THEN invade'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no warning'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'any high school science student can build a nuclear bomb if they wanted too.'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nah, riz, they couldn't get the fissile material'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"any?"  -- not "any"'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'sure you can, it would be a dirty bomb though....you can use radioactive medical waste'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it would be rubbish'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'still powerful enough to destroy 20 blocks of a city.'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'unlikely'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'might irradiate 20  blocks, woudln't destroy them, or even damage them in a serious way'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'unlikely to explode'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'tel that to the okahoma city federal building, and that was only 4 barrels of fertilizer and diesel....add radioactive material, and there you go.'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'dirty bomb is not a weapon of mass destruction'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if that is what you are calling a "dirty bomb", there are are far more efficient methods of spreading nuclear waste, but poisoning the holy land is unlikely to be done by the arabs'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Iran isn't going to nuke anyone'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it is all a matter of scope....a dirty bomb can be scaled bigger to make a bigger boom, otherwise we wouldnt have made the mother of all bombs....MOAB!'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'those depleted uranium shells used by the USA and the UK are mini-dirty-bombs'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the 2nd largest conventional bomb, after FOAB from the russians.'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Maob is not nuclear'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'again, they could already do that, it's not what the sanctions and rhetoric is about'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'not talking about iranians, talking about high school students who want to blow up a 20 block of city....it can be done easily with a box truck of diesel and fertilizer.'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'NoAB'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the only real hard part would be the radioactive medical waste.'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'in Canada, difficult to buy NH4NO3 -- the agricultural supply store recommends Urea instead'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so maybe Rizgoth suggests that those highschool students buy supplies at the ACME supply company - where Wil E Coyote shops'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'unsure why students would want to'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'look at all those highschool projects that Rizgoth suggested'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Are you guys ready for white guilt wristbands?'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'white guilt wristbands can be take and shoved up the the fake liberal arse of whatever fuckwit dreamt it up'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the undeniable fact is that God likes to be White! :) '
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so do not apologise for being white'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'when white women are elderly, they are likely to yet look good, thanks to being white'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'when colored women are elderly, they are likely to yet look horrid, since the colored pigmentation increases unevenly'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'from an evolutiunary perspective thus far, there are far more advantages to being white (than nonwhite)'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'rebuttal?  (or do i also do the rebuttal)'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '(but i'd be required to pointout the genetic defects afflicting some formerly-imperialistic whites)'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"Happy and Glad to be White" wristbands -- that perhaps play the song "I'm so glad" (say) by The Cream '
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'if a black-hating negro is denied membership to the Aryan Nation, would the civil rights movement rise up to support him?'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '(a spokesman is likely to say that) the Aryan Nation is about the goodness of being White, not about hatred'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'but did you notice that those "Aryans" on the Jerry Springer show did not look 100% white'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the song "i'm so glad" was composed by the blues artist "Skip James"  - so note the humor in previous countersuggestion to the Snooky trollism'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you are looking for an attendant'
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Probably the most interesting thing I've seen in a while: http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change.html'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'had to share this, it's awesome: http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/trouble-in-the-nanny-state/'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Foreign oil companies in the Niger Delta region are finding it cheaper to "flare off the gas" -- a technique of oil drilling that lights up the sky with wasted energy. Meanwhile, Nigerian villagers go without electricity.'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's very non-communist of them : and undemocratic, not even socialist'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Nigeria is one the most messed up countries in the world....it exports 2 million barrels of oil per day,but has to import 100% of its gasoline and diesel because it has no refining capacity for domestic use.'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'at least it's ogliarchs are rich and it's professionals work in foreign nations'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'kind of like canada not feeding the jet fuel indians in the north for less than 8 dollars a litre of milk'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'while consuming 7% of the oil produced by itself in a year'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '.. if that'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'at least we have lawyers who can tell us why for a moneychanging living'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '22 acres of 'hay land' = 25 , 000 dollars, 145 acres of land 30 miles away = 45,000 dollars'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '145 acres of land on the outskirts of calgary = 22 million dollars, 145 acres of land next to a railway terminal = 45,000 dollars'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'naturally cost is relative to omerta'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'can i own all the mineral rights for your nation'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if you want to poke a hole under my house i own your ability to do it'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the invaders are coming, across 1000 miles of ocean, to murderfuck you for a living, i guess we shouldn't invest in submarine's to sink the floating invaders'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sorry, the coastline is covered in land mines'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i guess we'll have to not snipe you off as you swim to shore'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Shell oil flares 1 billion cubic feet of gas per day in Nigeria....the same as dumping 180,000 barrels of oil down the drain.'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'as long as 177,000 barrels isn't worth 17.1 million dollars * the amount of days'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'naturally, they're doing things efficiently for their ogliarches golden human trafficking rings floating across the ozone layer'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but, as long as hitler lost the war, it must be a good thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how come they punished the tribal people in paraguay or uguguay for placing land mines on the landing strips of the drug traffickers'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'was it becoming too dangerous to murderfuck people in front of their families'
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm a surgeon here to slice open your tits for cocaine for a living'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'everyone wearing your white armbands?'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9932173/Real-life-superhero-stops-fight-against-crime-after-he-is-attacked.html hahaha'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'What a crock of shit....NY confiscated $4.5 million worth of non taxed cigarettes that were manufactured in China.....and the DA said it was a good job by the police because it removed cigarettes from the street that contained chemicals that could harm the public.'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'hehe'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'tactical nuke cigarettes'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) CyanKnight: 'dynimite cigarettes'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'to be fair, cigarettes have killed more people than nukes'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taokan: 'though with a stark difference that people pick their own poison/fate with cigarettes'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) CyanKnight: 'starting secret nazi party,anyone care to join?'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'bought a rc predator drone....it is 1/5th normal size of the predator drone,  I am going to try to put missile tubes on it made from a high density plastic, and launch fireworks from it. :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Just mowed my front lawn using my cool new honda electric riding mower.'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'lol, they're not too sneaky about smuggling stuff, In order to create a new transport and communicational units in Uzbekistan in February 2008 with "Korean Air" signed a letter of intent to establish an international intermodal center at the airport in Navoi. At the airport of Navoi, which is located at the intersection of air routes from Asia to Europe, will accumulate goods from Southeast Asia and the Central Asian countries to smuggle them to Europe, and cargo from Europe to smuggle them to Asia. , according to google translate - http://www.uwed.uz/ru/index.php?do=news&id=48 2nd last paragraph, maybe google translate mistranslated though'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'no english translation on website though, i found it through https://www.tsukuba.ac.jp/english/global/interaction.html and http://unu.edu/ and curiousity with silk road that i read about, which is also mentioned, after looking through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibaraki_Prefecture randomly'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'had to translate to russian to get google translate to work'
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'Move (goods) illegally into or out of a country: "cocaine smuggling". , (smuggle)    Convey (someone or something) somewhere secretly and illicitly.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'CPAC endorses Rand Paul and slates the GOP leadership. THis is a good sign (tm)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'ay'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Slaymore: 'ay, you canadian?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wouldn't that be "eh"?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Slaymore: 'maybe ayeeee'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'what do you guys think of evolution?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what about it?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Slaymore: 'do we evolve?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we used to'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'well im poping up somthing?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'eh?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there isn't really any question of evolution in scientific facty'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Slaymore: 'you know what i find more interesting, science can't prove or deny it : Reincarnation'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'like God'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not sure the point is to find things that can't be proved either way'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xaeris: 'on both of those points, the onus isn't on science, but it's on those who claim it'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'but religion says evolution is wrong on so many levels.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'imo, christianity and evolution are not mutually exclusive except in those who take the bible literally'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'evolution says religion is wrong on so many levels.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'religion said earth was flat'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it cannot, evolution didn't exist as a theory when the bible was written'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'where does it say that?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'whatever the argument they were running in galileo's time was'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'evolution was around long before the bible was written'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'think it's more that the earth was the center of the universe and the sun went around it, red'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'ok, i concede'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'flat earth theory was far less common that people think'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'religion said the sun revolved around the earth'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'evolution "speaks" to those with the ability to listen'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'ancient greeks knew the earth was round'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'nods, and so did sailors'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'fraudulent defective religions said the sun revolved around the earth'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you'll get genuine mistakes, misunderstandings, misinterpretations, lies, deceit, and corruption in all parts of history. Religion is not alone in this , neither then nor now'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'to characterise it in such a way needlessly devalues it, as well as giving a free pass to the corruption of authoritarianism that we have now'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'not a justification - so "woe to those men by whom the abominations came" -- from a paraphrased Jesus quote'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Tigernuts attempted to justify the corruption by religions by citing other corruptions, thereby attempting to hand out a freepass '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"God is not pleased"'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'true but i have never heard of hindu suicide bombers..'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what corruption?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'God is a thought exercise.  He is real because we believe in him, strive to live his way, and punish those who do not.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'religion is a device, people commit the corruption'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I have a feeling it is hard to claim the race, creed, national origin, religion or sexual orientation of a successful suicide bomber.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I bet most suicide bombers were heterosexual, hence all heterosexuals are bad people. :P'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'no argument there'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'lol first time i heard that '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Slaymore: '90 virgins, they didn't tell me they were guys!'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'of course, the image of a homosexual as being a weakling is a rather resent belief. Many of the fiercest warriors on antiquity were practicing homosexuals (though actually many were bisexual).'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'of*'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Samuri are a very good example.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'isn't that a democratic argument, Ranrr?  Republicans hide their perversions, so all Republicans must be perverts?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Tigernuts is attempting to launder corrupt religions by (1) denial of corruption ("what corruption") and (2) attempting to whitewash and divert the corruptness of religion by stating that corruption is (only) in the believers (and not the religion) '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and Alexander The Great had six limbs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You usasians, and your weird politics. '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ranrr beams a smile at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'i cant believe alexandre was homosexual..'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, though that might seem like a categorical error, Zade, it is not. Because without believers there are is no religion.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the ancient Romans had rather few taboos.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the corruptness of a religion is in the teachings and scriptures of a religion, as those teachings and scriptures when read are able to corrupt the unwary'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you can't really corrupt an idea, Zade.  When you try, you just come up with a different idea.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, if you can prove the claim the the scriptures and teachings of a religion are independent of the believers then we are in business :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'would Baptism work?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Baptism is not a religion :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Snaebjorn smirks at SnailBot Anaristos's saying.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'sure it is.  All 31 flavors of it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'babtism , i take a bath everyday how can baptism be a religion? '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if all the believers of a corrupt religion are exterminated, but the corrupt scriptures remain, those corrupt scriptures are yet there pweerhaps waiting to corrupt a new batch of readers into new corrupt believers'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there's no such thing as a corrupt religion'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, then you will agree that there is sound in a forest when a tree fall without anyone being there to hear it :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Baptists are a religion'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Baptist is a religion, baptism is a rite.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'its not the words that corrupt but the interpretation and use of those words'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Islam is a terrorist religion -- a corrupted religion'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it is not'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'obviously you have never heard of the Crusades.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'audibility is not sound.  Sound is the transfer of vibrations through a medium capable of such transfer.  Unless you're going to claim that we are growing trees in vacuum, there's going to be sound when one falls.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'like i say "the only thing more dangerous than a wolf in sheeps clouthing , is a wolf in the sheperds outfit"'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I am not arguing the point, Hanslanda. I personally agree with you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'besides, if you are going to base sound on your definition then how do you explain dog whistles?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I don't have to explain dog whistles.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '(most perhaps) all religions are fraudulent'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'ALL'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'religions served a number of purposes, what YOU are confusing corruption with is the perversion of the teaching of religion in order to propogate a specific agenda'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'we are waiting for you to say something worthwile, Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'worthwhile*'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'religions are corrupt in that the adherents and leaders resist the reduction and elimination of the fraudulent portions of the religion'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'stfu Anaristos'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'any religion that entertains the idea of sin is corrupt :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'by definition :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the biggest corruptor of religion is the state and or governance'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'how about the idea of wanting to hang homosexuals?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hence catholics, henry 8th'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that sounds corrupt to me :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Anaristos, that may take some syllogisticx explaining'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Henry VIII ceased to be Catholic when he divorced.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that's why he started the Anglican Church.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'angelican? Or evangelic?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Anglican'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Anglican is the Eurodaddy of the Episcopalian movement that sprang up in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Tigernuts is attempting to equivocate by faulty separation of meanings into separate labels, as though corruption may be juggled around to whitewash some labels '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Debate in and of itself is a corrupt notion.  The whole point of it is to turn wrong into right, after all.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'let us assume that we have an atheist planet. How far do you think we would have been in terms of technology?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'same as now'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'when a religion is extremely corrupt, both the religion is corrupt AND the adherents are corrupt and or corrupted and or deceived and or deluded'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'morality and ethics aren't the sole limiting factors of what can get done.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Avieta is attempting the justification doctine of "necessary evils"'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, all the New World religions sprang from the Puritan migration to America.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'doctRine'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'a case in point for that is in the computer-parts industries.  We're only now reaching a point where the basic size of the silicon atom is simply too big to continue miniaturization, so we're looking to gallium oxide and graphene for alternatives.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the Lutherans didn't.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the Lutherans came later.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'besides, Lutherans are Protestants anyway.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and then there are the Episcopalians.  They came from the same locale, but I don't think they were Puritan.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'in fact, Lutherans were the first Protestants :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Anaristos is attempting to deny the Catholic (and Deist and other) contributions to New World Religions'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Catholics came to the southern and central regions of America. The north was strictly Protestant.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I was raised pentachostial, we are some badass motherfuckers'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'no... I just think earths infrastructure (hope i spelld it right) would have been far more advanced if we didnt waste money building churches.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'hey, the Capitol and White House are monuments, too. Humans like to build monuments. Just go to any major city in the world and some not so major.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Puritans were intolerant and ethically wrong -- Puritan abominations -- there was a documentary on a History channel that indicated the reasons the Puritans were a bad lot'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Furor, while that is an interesting idea, the way it works here is more interesting because players can address the issue in many different ways.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, the worst thing about puritans is that they were puritans.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it wasn't the witchery stuff?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'haha, i knew zade got his information from history channel :D'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: '"history" channel*'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'decent benign churches were a fairly good social influence at the Church buildings -- so Avieta is wrong to say that Church infrastructures are a waste'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'puritans were dickbags, however'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'ay how do we explain witch craft? (scientificaly)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I can agree that church building is/was a waste by considering that the funds for such enterprises come from people who have a hard time putting 3 meals on the table every day.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'but that is mostly true for any ceremonial building whether religious or secular.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'witchcraft was invented because some scheming cunt thought the masses wouldn't sympathize with the truth.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'As an atheist, though, I can still appreciate the architechture of churches, e.g. st pauls cathedral in london.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'obviously you know very little about the Wicca, Hanslanda.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'wicca is not witchcraft'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'some of the religious architectures are breath-taking, a waste of money nonetheless.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so is the white house, the capitol, the pentagon, the supreme court building, the Eiffel Tower, and the pyramids.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'there's no glory in roads and sewers, though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Hanslanda is attempting a "divide labels and disparage" approach to wicca and witchcraft'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'The pyramids were religious buldings, though....'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'no, they were cenotaphs'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the building of those infrastructures advanced stone masonry technology'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they were tombs.  It was improper to go there unless you were working on it or the intended died.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'sure, and because of church building we inherited flying buttresses, so what? '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Still a religious building, imho.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I thought those came from the arab castles?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'don't concoct lies Hanslanda -- you weren't there'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'no, flying buttresses are European, though the idea could have been developed elsewhere also'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'they are part of Gothic architecture, mainly. Though they are use in modern buildings, too. Though they are not as obvious.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'many of the designs for earthquake-safe retrofitting incorporate the idea of flying buttresses.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the point is that humans like monuments. A great example is the MTA (metro transit authority) of Los Angeles, which operates in the red, yet they spent 155 million USD on their downtown headquarters.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'they could have run the system from a bunch of parked recreational vehicles just as effectively and probably for about 154M USD less.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'or get a sight of grand central station'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yeah :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it is magnificent, I must say :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and if Grand Central Station is not a church, I don't know what is :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'though secular, of course.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'philly's city hall is the largest masonry building on the planet, with foundation walls 20+ feet thick'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'are they expecting an earthquake there? Or a F7 hurricane?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'had to be that thick to hold the weight of the rest of the building'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I bet. Must be very quiet inside.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it also has a larger 4-facing clock than Big Ben's (B. B.'s is just the largest 4-faced BELL tower)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: '39 steps :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'ever see the movie?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'nope'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'worth watching if you like b&w movies :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade is likely to wait for a decent colorised version before deciding to not watch the movie ;) 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the old movies of the last century are usually less "cluttered" than modern movies'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'heh, how about those from the century before that?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I despise Ted Turner for pushing colorized movies. '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade prefers "talkies" to silent movies
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'everyone wears either green or brown in colorized movies :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'decent colorisation usually improves a movie'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'bad colorisation usually ruins a movie'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'b&w movies need not be colorized. The need for color indicates a deficiency in the viewer, lack of  color doesn't indicate in the movie :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'ted turner or edward turner?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'by the time ted turner was anybody, color movies were the norm'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some b&w movies are greatly improved by excellent colorisation'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Ted, the man-wife of Jane Fonda'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"Sin City" is an almost B&W movie'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'there is no way to know what the actual color was in the movies. Especially when some directors took advantage of the fact that the movie was b&w and ignored chromatic clashes on the sets.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you are just a product of the digital age, Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'when the movie looks good after colorisation, good enough, even if the movie colors are (slightly) inaccurate'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'an age which lacks completeness, by definition :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'i prefer analog -- more depth, more information, more accuracy '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'but the point of a move, is the plot. That is many b&w movies are so good, they didn't spend most their budgets on eye-searing sets.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'there was no need, so movies were cheaper to make.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and people concentrated on the plots rather than on the pyrotechnics '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'digital video is able to be better than analog video, maybe'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you take the FX out of many current movies and they would be nothing.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'because their plots are so weak.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'currently digital sound (theoretically and practically) lacks the intense detail of analog sound'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'wait, did I just hear zade say that digital video can be better than analog? you do know that digital video has digital compressed audio, right?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it will always be so, if digital sound match exactly analog sound, it would be analog :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yeah, digital sound can be better than analog.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some of the CDs by The Cream are painful to listen too (noticably) compared to the original analog versions'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'sure, I mean why did animals that can hear spend millions of years developing the hearing of analog sounds when eventually digital sound would become available.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Because digital sound didn't exist until we invented it?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and you should tell mathematicians that curve  fitting is better than the curve itself :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Analog sound degrades with each media transfer. Also, sampling theorem.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'by "video", talking of the "visual" component only, not the crappy digital sound (with most of the original fine detail missing)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that might be true, but humans (and other animals) didn't develop hearing so that they could listen to recordings.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'besides, no recording will ever be as good as the sound it recorded.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no creature develops anything for a purpose...evolution is not a conscious decision, it's merely a mutation'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'True, Ana, but irrelevant.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and when you invent a time machine to re-hear the original performance, then we'll care ;-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that's not the point, Abe. The point is that hearing of analog sounds was developed. Not hearing of digital packets.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'all sound is analog, even digital sound'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I have no quarrel with recordings, I have a quarrel with those who claim that they are as good as the original.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'at record time and playback, it is analog...only storage and transformation are digital'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'digital sound redigitised also degrades with each transfer (from speakers through air to digital recorder) and far more so than analog (from speakers through air to analog recorder)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'nobody says they're as good as the original performance...they're merely better than any analog reproduction'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'That applies to analog as well, Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'It's just that analog degrades more times than digital.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some of you seems to be afflicted with defective hearing (and untrained ears) if you believe that digital is preferable to analog'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'a good analog storage and reproduction is going to be more-greatly-errant from the original than a good digital storage and reproduction'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Just because some digital can be worse than some analog, doesn't mean all digital is worse than all analog.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'now those defects may be more pleasant to listen to (the "warm" sound of tube amps), but they're still defects'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'a good analog storage and reproduction is going to be far far far superior to a good digital storage and reproduction'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so "liking" analog/vinyl/etc better than digital is different than it being as accurate'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it hasn't been in a good 20 years, and the trend shift is in the opposite direction...'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'those unable to discern that fact: audio-detail-deaf'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Because you say so, or do you have a scientific theory behind your statement?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'those that think they do discern the fact: delusional about what the original was'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'color-blindness is a bad affliction -- audeo-detail-deafness is also a bad affliction'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you like what you hear...that's not the same as you hear what you should'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Asked, and answered. You just think so, and we should just agree.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'actual scientific theory does support what i say with regard to excellent analog sound recordings as superior to current digital sounds'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no it doesn't'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'yes it does'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it supports that if we could have flawless storage and reproduction, the theory could be better...that's not the same thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'has been scientifically-proven time and time again over the course of the past 40 years...analog oscilliscope writing to paper at the original performance, as well as at analog and digital playback...same instrument at all 3 performances...compare the 3 papers and see which is more-deviant'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'in a perfect world outside the world of physics, analog would be better, nobody would dispute that'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'from a theory perspective, digitisation of sound discards a lot of detail in the sampling which is theoretically unable to be reproduced later -- what is gone is gone.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'in the world we live in, it simply is not, nor will it ever be the case...the issue is that as technology improves recording and playback techniques, those benefit both sides of the equation...digital is already PERFECT at storage and copy (the degeneration ONLY happens at time of recording and playback), and analog never can be'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yes, but do you dispute that there is an upper limit to the hearing capability of humans?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'decent decent analog keeps (most) all of the detail (with some slight Signal to Noise imperfections added) -- and the trained audiophile is able to reconstruct the original sound with repeated listenings to the same recordings '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Irrelevant.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if you're "reconstructing" the original, that's called "inventing things which don't actually exist"'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the debate doesn't even need to cover the physiopsychological capabilities, although those are what drove the minidisc to mp3 to mp4 algorithms...the "which is more-distorted from original" aspect handles it nicely :-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'with digital recording, that reconstruction is theoretically not possible, and repeated listenings are likely to cause mental pain in the trained audiophile'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'with digital recording, it's no more or less possible than analog'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'To prove that analog is better than digital, always, you need to disprove the sampling theory or the upper hearing limit for humans. '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that's where you're incorrect'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, you merely need to prove accuracy'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'which is handily done in the manner I've already described'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'don't need theory or opinions'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the "sampling theory" you are citing is extremely wrong fraudulent and defective'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Really? Source?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you said the same thing about religions.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'he says the same thing about anything he disagrees with ;-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'heh :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if you throw in words like "attempting", "fraudulent" and "defective", it makes your debates smarter, donchaknow'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I think that arguing like that is extremely wrong, fraudulent and defective :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'you "religiously" believe in digital -- and are fooled by the obviously defective "sampling theory"  -- extremely difficult to change "religious" views'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '(Debate) Zade: 'Tigernuts attempted to justify...Zade: 'Tigernuts is attempting to launder...Zade: 'Tigernuts is attempting to equivocate...Zade: 'Avieta is attempting the justification...Zade: 'Anaristos is attempting to deny...Zade: 'Hanslanda is attempting a "divide'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no pattern here, nope'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I'll change my views if I get proof of them being incorrect (aka science)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'Zade: 'fraudulent defective religions said'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that's like the trifecta point right therhe'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'oh, and that particular point: Zade: 'fraudulent defective religions said the sun revolved around the earth'...the bible actually says that the earth revolves around the sun ;-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'in the topic of religions, even if a rigorous proof that (say) "God does not exist" were published, those that believe in a god are likely to continue to believe in that god'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you can't prove a negative, so that "proof" will never come forward.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'in the topic of religions, even if a rigorous proof that (say) "God does exist" were published, those that disbelieve in any god are likely to continue to disbelieve in the existence of any god'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'And you don't need to, the default stance applies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and yet, there are converts in both directions all the time'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I would definitely change my view from atheist to theist if a proof of god was produced.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"one swallow does not make a summer"'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'wow, that's a metaphor'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'requiring proof of god kinda defeats the object'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yeah, I look for at least one swallow a week :-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it's hard to get her to do it more than once a week :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'rx or tx?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cain killd Abelinc looks for Eureka
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the problem with you Zade is that you confuse evidence, existence and belief. You can't tell them apart :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'religion has been usurped by the state'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the converse is also true :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'as true in the middle east and israel as it is here'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'converse is also true, yes, but not currently the problem here'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'django unchained and 'mies julie', coincidence?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, for one thing, Israel is in the Middle East. For another, most Middle East states don't pretend to be secular. So there is no usurpation.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Ranrr, what if the "proven" god were proven to dislike homosexuality -- are you going to change from atheist to something else. or remain steadfastly an atheist hoping for a flaw in the "proof"'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://markettheatre.co.za/press-releases/read/mies-julie-press-pack'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, that would be news, Zade :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Revolution!  hmm, to get a bailout of the evil banks in cypriot, the avg citizens have to give up 10% of their savings deposits.....talk about horse shit....let thebanks fail.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'both 2012, both blacks murdering and raping whites, music -h 30 has some interesting links on it though'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'believers believe in what they believe because their beliefs provide them comfort, even if they know their beliefs are wrong'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you are trying to rationalize beliefs, which is akin to squaring a circle :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i wonder if 50 cent got his name from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_MaMa_Experimental_Theatre_Club or not'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'beliefs don't stand to reason, if they did, they would be facts :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they should have let them go belly up with a controlled liquidation by the guvmint that paid back depositers first before other creditors'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'wrong Anaristos, not akin to squaring a circle'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'putting a square peg in a round hole :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if the peg fits ...'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'how can it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what is it specifically that Zade has against religion?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'he was raised in a restrictive religious environment and now he seeks to rebel.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'he was touched inappropriately by religious figures'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Zade, just because a god exists doesn't mean I need to agree with everything he says. But, if he truly is omnipotent and all-knowing, I guess I'd have to hate homosexuals.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'or he touched religious figures inappropriately '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you said homosexuals, the police are en-route to you as we speak'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the defect with "sampling theory" is that the theory pertains to only a single sine wave, and not to a multitude of waves'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'If there is a god how allows the existence of homosexuals then obviously they are acceptable by the god.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You misread the theory.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'beliefs can stand to reason, its just not a requirement.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'who allows*'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're assuming that such a God did anything other than create the starting conditions, rules, and kick the simulation off'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'denying the existence of something that obviously exists is an exercise in futility'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saint Cuthbert: 'Reason is the ability to reconcile what you think with what we, as a species, understand. When you accept that we, as a species, understand very little relative to the amount there is to understand in the Universe, "being reasonable" becomes a logical fallacy.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saint Cuthbert: 'YEAH. I SAID IT.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that's the point, Tigernuts. Unless you are going to claim the an omnipotent being makes mistakes :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'btw, some of the digital manufacturers know that the "sampling theory" is defective wrong and fraudulent, but they want to sell digital sound to marks, so they continue with the "sampling theory" lie'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'thus you find that the least important aspect of most religions is not God'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'not knowing their beliefs are wrong is only as tempting as belief that yours are unshakeable'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it is easier just to blank the buffer portion than to crunch it to eliminate the blank line.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'who's beliefs are wrong?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'usually everyone whos is not me'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saint Cuthbert: 'Scientologiests.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saint Cuthbert: 'Er... tologists.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I don't need opininions about the sampling theorem, just a proof that it is wrong. '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'no belief is wrong :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'scientology isn't widely accepted as a "religion" though'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'with analog sound, two output channels were emough -- with digital sounds, they were "forced" to go with five or more channels in an attempt to reproduce what analog stereo was able to do in both positional and detail'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how do you, for instance, know that they're not just pretending to believe in what you can't prove is nothing but believe so, and can't enlighten them because they're trying to darken you'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'wow'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'Ana you are assuming that being omnipotent goes hand in hand with using that power to make everything and everyone the way you want.  that would just make God  the great puppeteer in the sky'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'time to go for a cup of coffee :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i need another too, some 'dekaffirnation' as they put it'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in the context of christianity, the state has usurped the role of providing moral bounds, and charity... which is why it doesn't work properly any more'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'No, that's not what I am saying Andurien. What I am saying that once the omnipotent being puts events in motion, the final result has been accepted otherwise other events would have been put in motion.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the final result is not a fixed outcome'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but i'm not offended if , people got a deity or something that they can't prove is nothing that they hang onto, so long as they're not trying to cut off my head for it or something, then it's natural instinct to be offended by it'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'oh, yes it is, Tigernuts. Every event has a unique consequence.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'if two events have the same consequence, they are the same event.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not true'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'ok :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'think it through, though :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe some don't even try to prove one way or another, and i guess that's probably the case, and zade's arguement in the dark - and mine too, i seen the kinds of minds they got running this world'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the idea of a good saying "oops, did I do that?" doesn't play very well :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'of a god*'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'a little bit of them anyways'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'on a different note: Terrorism: noun, a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government. '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'is the secret surveillance of a people, together with removal of rights, and threats of arbitrary incarceration and execution "governing by terror"?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saint Cuthbert: 'Nah, that's just national security!'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i seen where order's headed, i think chaos is a better path'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts tsks Saint Cuthbert.  You feel sorry for her.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so anybody signed up to go on a one way trip to mars in 2022 yet?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they won't accept you unless you're married.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're publishing the 2013-2014 budget for UK on wednesday'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh, you likely obtained that from TheOnion or similar news-sourse'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's the one where america acknowledges north korea as god in a official press release isn't it?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'nah, i seen that story on a more legitimate news'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'ay you'll'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'A donated human liver has been kept alive, warm and functioning outside a human being on a newly-developed machine and then successfully transplanted into patients in a medical world first.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and it was british researchers at Oxford who did it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well obviously'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'science is kicking butt this year ay'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'and they were inspired by the movie industry '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the new process will double the amount of livers available for transplantation into patients.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'that sounds awesome. '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Scifi, Comedic, and Horror movie industry -- but do they pay royalties for using the concepts'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'the movie indastry? Realy now?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xaeris: 'by that statement, Roddenberry should be getting royalties for every cell phone sold.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and for every nudist beech'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'beach'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'cloning cells to regenerate organs is likely to be eventually supereior than transplants'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Dammit Roddenberry should get royalties for EVERYTHING'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'wrong Xaeris -- Dick Tracy cartoons with the tv wristwatch communicators came up with the concept long before Star Trek'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xaeris: 'Not the point - I'm saying the actual flip functionality was the inspiration for modern day cell phones, not Dick Tracy.  Even cell phone developers have said so.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the cell phone developers were likely bribed to say that'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xaeris: 'sure.  Everything's a conspiracy theory.  :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, and the medical tricorder in the star trek series was the inspiration for the real one that is being tested.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'not to mention crystal memory drives that IBM Research has been working on for 15 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'doubt that medical tricorders exist yet'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'we cannot are never aware of the territory, we can only be aware of the map :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: '"we cannot ever be aware" :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'GE has a handheld medical scanner that has been in testing phase for a few years now, some high end hospitals already have them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'a lot of the concepts on Star Trek werer plagiarised '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'sure, one could say that Star Wars was based on ST :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there was a lot of Sci-Fi authored long before Star Wars and Star Trek'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'several Sci-Fi concepts in movies and tvseries were plagiarised from Philip K Dick sciFi books'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the ending to "Inception" plagiarised a concept from the ending to "Ubik"'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xaeris: '- http://www.everythingisaremix.info/  QED'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the ending to "Ubik" was humorous -- the ending to "Inception" spoiled the movie'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'ancient philosophers debated about the ethics of the usage of tracktor beams 3000 years ago.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hundreds of dinosaur egg fossils have been found in northeastern Spain.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"Inception" also stated that the dreaming state packed in a lot more information compared to the waking state (an hour hour of dream-state was only five minutes irl), but the reverse is more likely - five minutes of dreaming is likely spread over an hour irl'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'being aware of time is an interesting thing though, sort of like that day you don't remember all the details of, but it felt long without definition'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or when waking from a dream, how long it felt becomes ever more irrelevant as the conclusion is reached'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'took years to determine how the dream clock compared to the rl clock'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'possibly, if it can be figured out at all'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the dream clock is often extremely slow compared to the rl clock '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they monitored rapid eye movement and stuff in determining how long people dream for, and then asking the dreamer how long they felt they were dreaming'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is slow dreaming and rem dreaming -- they are different'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is also controlled conscious dreaming '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'since imagination exists though, likely we're always part asleep'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'like invented the concepts, or re-found them for star trek, that takes imagination if not looking back from what already exists'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the sleep state is a separate concept to the dream state is separate concept to imagination'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'somewhere's schizophrenia though, and what shamans and all kinds of weird people used to contemplate'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'schizophrenia is a normal function of sane humans'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'are you a proud wacko bird?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'what is the most dominant spicie on earth?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'spicie isn't a word'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'probably salt'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'what ever that word is man!'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'it's not really obvious which of the possible words you meant. '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I like my wings spicie'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'speci? Specie? '
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'no'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'also must define "dominant" if you're asking about species'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'most humans are submissive and not very dominant, probably more than any other animal per capita, more cowardice in humans than cows for instance, which only repeat after one another in their ignorant behaviour patterns, learning to interpret nature to be handy for the handler'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that's pretty cool.  Earthquakes turn water into gold.'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'too bad it doesn't work on the mud'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'anybody know why, they call so many things 'saint mary's' this and that?  one mary was his virgin mother, the other was a adulteress/whore who became his girlfriend, what're they trying to say, while you weren't born of a virgin, jesus went out with a whore with the same name as his mother?'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'so...medicare part A is projected to run out of money by 2024.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Scars, decent Christians are unable to be offended by criticism of their mythology -- a long tradition of christians evangelicals stating that sinners and and nonchristians are to be cast into Hell, indicates a give and take in religious discussion'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'when you're old and your life is "over". do you think you should have the right to experiment with ALL the cool substances out there?'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brun: 'that isn't related to age imo'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'basically when you cannot drive safe any longer, you could have it compensated by drugs:) turn in the licence and get a box of needles in return'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'in Feb 2013, the US imported 1.3 million barrels less of oil per day compared to the same time in 2012.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'year over year oil consumption in the US has also dropped by 150,000 barrels per day.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'U.S. oil wells produced 6.4 million barrels of oil per day last year  the highest domestic production level in 20 years -- and are expected to yield 7.3 million barrels per day this year'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Within 10 years, the US will be able to terminate all imports of foreign oil, except from Canada, we have no reason to stop importing from our Best oil supplier ever.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Canadian oil production is expected to increase to 6.5 million barrels per day with more natgas available for tar sands oil production instead of it being exported to the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a new survey of the Barnett Shale in northern Texas shows it currently has about 44 trillion cubic feet of recoverable natgas, and should allow production to around 2030.  New technology during that time could double or triple that estimate, and add 30 more years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the Barnett Shale field produced about 2.2 trillion cubic feet of natgas in 2012.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the Cypriot 'confiscation of bank deposits' of it's people isn't going down too well...'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'At least they chose a reasonably safe place to test the concept'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they chose a small place where rich russians have got a lot of money deposited'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'sceptics might say mf global was the test, of course'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'on a 1-10 of "bad news" it scores a very good 8, i woudl think'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'At current consumption rates, the data suggests the world has 54 years' worth of proved oil reserves and 64 years' worth of proved gas reserves in place'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we'll all be dead long before that'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'dead or in government forced labour camps, take your pick'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Dow Chemical is expanding its Texas chemical factories because of the cheap natgas in Texas.....they are adding 9000 new jobs in the next 2 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'mind you, they want to nick 10% of bank deposits in Cyprus in a one off, they've been nicking 3-5% of british bank deposits per year for a couple of years now'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Hilary Cunton flips her policy on same-sex marriage'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'err Hilary Clinton'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'When it comes to energy production, Nevada is the most useless state in the union.....it produced only 51 terawatts of energy in 2011.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Texas produces the most energy in the US, at 11,408 trillion btu of energy in 2011'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Wyoming is 2nd at 10,500 trillion btu of energy in 2011.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'damn, almost 2000 lbs of marijuana washed ashore a California beach.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '$7.50 for the dinner.'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Russia looking to establish a pemanent combat naval presence in the Mediteranean - talks of base in Cyprus'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/china/130318/suntech-chinese-solar-panel-company-defaults-541m-bo'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'In Wisconsin a company is building a $30 million methane digester that will use the byproducts of cheese production to produce methane that will be used to make power for 3000 homes in the area.  The left over solids will also be sold as fertilizer.'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'psst, they're coming for your bank account'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'looks like the cypriot guvmint threw out the bank deposits theft at the last minute'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'looks like vampire feinstein's gun bill is DOA'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: ''By 2025, the amount of taxes we currently pay will only be enough to finance: our healthcare programs (Medicare and Medicaid), social security, and the interest we owe on our debt. That's it. Every other national priority: education, transportation, even our national security, will have to be paid for with borrowed money. Now ultimately this rising debt will cost jobs and damage our economy. It will prevent us from making the investments we need to win the future. We won't be able to afford good schools, new research, or the repair of roads. All the things that create new jobs and new businesses here in America. Businesses would be less likely...' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomberg_Television'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'is that real?'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mye: 'a real wall of text there, yup'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i guess re-education police services might be the degree of the future, due holocaust'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'it's on the internet so it must be true'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'well, it's what i read on the page, anything formed with words and spoken by humans is probably a lie'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'liar!'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'your mom's a liar'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'babylon the great.. has fallen.. has fallen!  , opened her ports to everybody - indicating sloppy administration, such as the kings of the earth who were 'liars' mentioned in isaiah, while lucifer was in the sides of the pit'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it didn't say, 'lucifer' was a liar, but god's punishment due to the misled, or is it missiled'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'god's punishment due to my sled. Roooooosebuuuuuuud...'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'northern canada doesn't scare me with it's death camps'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'neither do any of it's communist administrators'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'their flesh can be torn just like they tear it off others, right in their sight'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Rabshakeh, you have to keep an eye on the clock, it is time for your meds.'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'are they cut into a pair of tits crossing the spanish ocean, like a cocaine shipment'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos . o O ( Chemosh, come and save us, please! )
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'babylon's across the ocean from america anyways, the open ports society is pretty obvious everywhere though, outsourced bunch of war bond whorehouses etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so it wouldn't be referring to that, the trend though is pretty global'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'america just lets it's priests determine how safe the debt collectors trips across the ocean are, for their banana money services'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you are making your dealer proud, Rabshakeh :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't do narcotics, but the people who sell them own the legitimate drug manufacturers too'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you are definitely on something :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and you're the type of person with chalk on their hands and black fingernails holding some barbie cadavers'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'maybe is the fluoride in the water :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'are you doing some art-displays in maoism greece today?'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'don't knock necrophilia until you'v tried it. Though, I suspect you have :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'nah, i know the kind of minds that do though, like god can see the thoughts of the evil heart of man'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i am on something though, you have to be all saw russian ogliarch about your northern sled'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'oh look i just own all the legitimate businesses in the world with my group of communist nazi friends, i think i'll peek into your home like the jailcells in the movie in my title and do some ubermensch born in a cage eugenic psychometrics'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'true, especially if you are planning on winning the Iditarod'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Eugenics failed in your case :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they all die anyways, like your hopes of being a cyborg robot immortal in 2045'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'tesla's the kind of person i hate'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'd work for him like the dirt does today, he's a dissoluted nothing in my periphery'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'if Tesla was nothing, where does that leave you?'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'a teslacaust denier'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yeah, you would be an Edison fan. You probably would have enjoyed how he murder that dog to show how good DC current was.'
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razkin: 'didn't Edison also electrocute an elephant? '
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so that dog is a hero, because we now use AC :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'trying to find dr.seuss's design for death movie, and then come across suicide forest in japan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FDSdg09df8 , i guess they destroyed most of the documentary copies or something, crazy stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_for_Death , they say there'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'anybody seen it why they'd destroy it?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'Your Job In Germany is a short film made for the United States War Department in 1945 just before Victory in Europe (VE) day. It was shown to U.S. soldiers about to go on occupation duty in Germany. The film was made by the military films unit commanded by Frank Capra, and was written by Theodor Geisel,[1] who is better known by his pen name Dr. Seuss. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Job_in_Germany'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'While retaining some of the original film footage, Hitler Lives was written by Saul Elkins. The film warns that the defeated German population still contains Nazi supporters and that the world must stay ever vigilant against the prospect that a new Hitler will arise within Germany.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Lives'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they sure change their tune for the ezra 9:9 persians and other arbitrary war populations'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'so whats the debate about'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'why you have to ask that question'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'in the electric dirt of our unimind'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Optimus Cosmi snores loudly.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'your zombies will be impressed by your wisdom'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'unimind=hivemind'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'teach your mockery of me with subject matter in school to all your friends'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Noegel pulls out a shotgun ready to shoot zombies!
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Snooky cheers and sings... he is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'wikipedia seemingly does not mention any connection between the Dr Seuss film "Design by Death" and the japanese forest -- (if there is no connection, that was (extremely bad) misdirection reporting by Rabshakeh)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the forest came up when i searched for the seuss film, maybe it's a warning where did it go for'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'before running off at the mouth with unsubstantiated misdirections, check and verify the facts'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'i use fark for all my research'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Zade, do you have tickets for the worry-off?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and the cloud-advertisers who provide ip-oriented content to the silver surfer don't conduct psychological warfare through the ad's they choose'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'esl snooky'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'don't read in too deep zade, you have facts i have opinion'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'whats the point in debating an opinion'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'debate the facts of life'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'esl?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what do philanthropists run the world for'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ok, so the bible says jews are god's ubermensch, after genesis'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'what ever happened to natalie?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'wasnt she a writer or director or somethine?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'with *some* controversial topics, the world is extremely unforgiving -- stating flippant "opinions", without being able to back up those opinions, is often rabblerouser-suicide  -- "what the world doesn't forget, the world doesn't forgive".'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but breath-play porno and other categories isn't suicide for it's directors, hosts or actors'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's amazing stuff, i guess i better watch my words which are worth more than the crucified limbless corpsepiles of saint god'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'until you become a successful porno movie director, dream on, you roadkill you ;) '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i wouldn't direct porno's, unless i was raised a sadistic cannibal like our dear leaders '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'then i'd have grown up by age 13 or so'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and thinking cause you're born on the outside of the cage of government military world holocaust world police state and are therefore superior and immortal to me, is flawed in it's very design of my irritation of you from inside the cage you belong in'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'unimind <> hivemind , (different concepts)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'a friendly compost-digestor processes waste into decent earth (without annoying the neighbours with smelly spewage) :) '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'use Febreze :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Febreze is dangerous -- a working nose knows and warns when smelly danger is near'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm sure about zade, but i think he's chinese from the way his mind operates, belittling with pride picking on acute accuracy of a opinionated nature as being flamboyantly false or true, with greatest representation given to inconsequential details distracting the conversed through expectations of ego-silence, despondent communist subversion such as is re-educated'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade is White
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'as he couldn't have guessed :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'well, you remind me of asian, i've never met a white person with a mind like yours'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'we*'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'white people have minds?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'black people have faith in their ignorance, as do jews and other minorities'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'but blacks are not a majority...'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I mean, they are not a minority. They are a major racial group.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'shame-cultures are mostly an asian invention, they invented it'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'psychological shaming wasn't present as it is today in historic white society's'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'all you need is people's thoughts to control the world, what they think is how real it is to them'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but i don't forgive either, like them - until they've paid for their shit, then i'll worry about paying mine off'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how did they ever pull off 'IF Day', in 1943 the population of manitoba, 4 years after the 'great depression', coughed up over 64 million dollars in under 2 months, from a 'simulated nazi invasion''
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '14 years'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'isn't that amazing, they had one in vancouver too - there's a steaming garbage dump under a park there, and a mann-made hill in winnepeg i'm wondering how many corpses are in'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'my grandma didn't get a name until she was 12 or 13, they just called her 'baby', possibly because she was a rape-toy for the invading nazi military'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but she wouldn't divulge very much beyond the military police'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'legacy of stretched vagina's and corrupt politicians who don't get picked off'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh is no Rodney Dangerfield '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's an amazing world, lets go have a gang war over who gets to sell this ecstasy'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just observations'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'no need to go to war when there's plenty of customers - xchan'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, i never touched hard drugs like that and never sold them either'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i see what people kill eachother over though'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's interesting stuff trying to find the roots of all earth's corruption and inhale their cancer glory'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and impossible i guess, maybe there's someone lower than even them in eternity'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if you say "impossible" then "impossible to you"'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'a guess is a doubtful assertion, as you grasped'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'bad assertions are not excused with a "guess"'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so there's none so vile as the roots of all earths corruption, as managed by humans'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or is there some entity who's more wicked and evil than all of them and their inventions combined'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'those that (attempt to) preach that the possible is impossible are liars and deceivers'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm not an atheist, but i'm convinced that the stupidity on earth isn't attainable without spiritual evil'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so there must be something lower than the lowest of human filth on earth'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'partly anyways, agnostic - but i see that everybody's heart stops beating eventually, no matter how many baths of blood they keep theirselves young in'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rebshakeh, you currently do not serve god either, except as a bad example (of "raging waves foaming out their confusion")'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '(some reincarnate) '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'with the bitterness, atheism is more natural'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you think because a human-provided book has a metaphor for ryu's fireballs in street fighting buddhist self-immolation's, i'm a god convinced unoriginal bastard, already being consumed by worms in the lake of fire, which can't be proven to not be the space surrounding everything, which isn't unlike the omnipresent god of the bible'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'convinced  convicted'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'convinced  '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'convinced <> convicted'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i couldn't anyways, but i see the bible as a book of satan and the managers of his spiritual darkness that keeps the entire world in a choreographed managerie of deteriorating blasphemy'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'god is not you, convinced or convicted'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'believing in a Satan is pathetic'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'china is the dragon nation, and levi at han can mean the jewish serving the han dynasty, as they rebuild ezra 9:9's silk road for a conspiracy'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh, you speak like a puppet -- look at what you are typing in an attempt to discern and or conjecture the probable puppet-master(s)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and the candles on space tv aren't upside down to symbolize the upside down castle of that japanese legend demon'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and the tale of kieu isn't reminiscient of the average female life in the feminist civilized democratic world we live in'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'scifi scriptwriters plagiarise and copy that which is permitted -- don't read too deeply into fiction'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the "gospel according to space tv" is not gospel'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade mutters to the fictional Overlords: "be simpler to repair the Rabshakeh puppet if the puppet were benign inside."
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'Gini's organicist theories of nations and natality are believed to have influenced policies of Italian Fascism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrado_Gini The Gini coefficient, which measures income inequality, is the highest in Latvia among all EU countries. http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/32067/ , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Schenker , http://www.logistics.dbschenker.lv/log-lv-en/start/about_us/'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe part of the mistranslated smuggling route of a non-jewry mafia, http://www.dbschenker.kr/log-kr-en/start/Contact_Us/Korea.html , in singapore and the secret to asia's success'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'offician sponsor of the women's curling world cup in latvia'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so at least i found the source of the cold sore on the bottom lip of the german'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Hey, put your tin foil hat back on, I can read your mind.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's alright, at least you can connect the dots, honor the waffen ss with me'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'And while you're at it, pick up a history book so you at least have a clue.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'history's only useful in decyphering the 'sufficient unto the day is the corruption thereof' of the world today, in detailing the driving thought-patterns of the enemies who create it'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'If you are going to make nazi references, you better know what you're talking about. And you obviously don't.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's good, you know, neither did the maoist football player in greece'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if you'd have looked at the search results which you monitor in live time you'd have seen what i was talking about, facade's of ignorance don't work with me'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but we can pretend , which is what jehovah's all about'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '(Rabshakeh) "sufficient unto the day as the evil thereof" is the proper scriptural paraphrase -- not "as the corruption thereof" -- since Jesus was perhaps okay with necessary evil (and kept to a minimum) - Jesus was not abiding "corruption"'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'trying to distort the concept of freedom, democracy and independence all at the same time, LETA also reported that this past Saturday, the solemn WWII Latvian Legion remembrance proceedings at the Freedom Monument were disturbed by loud sirens and obnoxious Russian music. http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/32684/'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'these cold war people are lucky nobody real ever got their hands on some nukes, otherwise it would have been a warm war'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'cold war subhumans'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'filth that god wouldn't shed a tear for the disappearance of'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'but of which fake god do you speak'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'one thing the i learned about the cold war . Is that humanity can whipe itself out'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the one that doesn't occupy the space surrounding every object within the universe'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe next time they rename stalingrad they'll be obnoxiously disturbed'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'St Petersberg '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Tsaritsyn 1589-1925, Stalingrad 1925-1961, Volgograd 1961- (named after the Volga river)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'renamed to stalingrad for the memorial services once per year'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'as they do the victor march through moscow with detatchments from other allies'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'wikipedia reports that "Since February 2013, the city's name (of Volgograd) is to be commemorated as Stalingrad six days each year" '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'massmurderergrad'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Prokhorovka , 522 men (97 KIA/MIA)[5] 3[6][7] - 6[8] tanks destroyed 41[7] - 89[8] tanks damaged[9] (germany), ~5,500 men 207[10]- 334[11] tanks destroyed 420 tanks damaged[12 (russia) ,  Tactical Soviet defensive victory[1] Operational stalemate[2][3] Strategic German failure[4]'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Rabshakeh, any other mostly-irrelevant facts today .. (unless you are able to indicate the reasons that concerns over the renames are relevant)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i already did several times, only further proofs supporting the theory are required'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'unlikely'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Shashakeh, by mentioning the Battle_of_Prokhorovka, are you hoping that some god change the outcome of the Battle of Kursk, so that the Germans with negligible losses did not lose (and thus prolong the war), but to what purpose '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'UK budget was held today'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'will just say it did nothing to help the country's situation or my own'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Heh, Obama's limousine broke down in Israel after they filled it with diesel'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Poor Obama'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they really don't fancy him much over there, do they?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'James Herbert has died'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it is painful to hear a fiscal liberal talk about federal finances......how an increase in federal spending that is lower then the spending that they want is a cut, when it is not a cut, it is just a reduction in the growth of spending.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'To Michael Moore,yes, show us the photos--Lets see them! No one has seen any evidence in this case? that anything other than the live shooter drill took place--No bodies, no blood, no adam, no video, all records, autopsy, death certificates, toxicology report, all evidence, all sealed and hidden from view--People with nothing to hide have no problem releasing the truth--Why is that there was a gag order in place yet the Newtown Hustlers went on a anti-gun tour across America....Things that make you go hmmm...'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can't say that, Snooky! Anyone would think you're accusing the establishment and media of abusing a situation for the purposes of their political agenda!'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'USA are still paying 2 family members of veterans of the Civil war, and 10 more of the 1898 Spanish-American war'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'where's the source of all politicians?  are they all kgb servicemen?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they get away and are too unanimously , openly corrupt, to be random from various sources, they stem from a common denominator'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'all over the entire globe'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Not usually.  American politicians don't have the physical or mental prowess to pass the KGB academy'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'rex murphy's my favourite canadian news-analyst'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'he says things how they are, john stewart in the usa does some funny skits too'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Shameful.  He is a jewish KGB mastermind'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'well, maybe that's why they don't do anything with what he says in the government then'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they just go on and flaunt their immunity to any form of truth'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'That's what you think.  You don't know anything what happens in the government.  The government let's out what they want known'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'And they giggle as they surveil you through their scopes and antennas'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'I would know.  I'm the government'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and who's the circle of secrecy around them composed of, if not citizens of the nation's they fuck in the ass'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, i moon the satellite's i see seeing me sometimes, like at christmas'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Speaking in complete sentences is not a difficult art to master...'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Rab, there are many things the government would rather be doing than watching you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'There's just not enough manpower'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'besides, Rabshakeh, you are putting your health in danger with all that angst. :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'He hates this game and the internet too.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i have a limitless supply of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'we know :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Noegel giggles.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there'll probably be residual hatred emanating from my death into forever'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'No, people will forget.  They will remember you as the angry-at-the-world dude that didn't do a damn thing to make the world better.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'No offense.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'we'll perform an exorcism, or something like it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'That would be fun.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Rabshakeh, sit down, relax, have a pickle.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Just not bread and butter pickles.  Then you'll REALLY be pissed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'your anger is just a filter through which you view the world. You can switch filters anytime you want.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'He has a dirty filter'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'no, it's a chiselling feature of the unanimous enemy that the world's pawns embody'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'which is the key. You are not angry because of what you perceive as unjust. You are angry because you enjoy it :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'analyzing everything to death and still being a skeptic is a good immunity to blind-hatred, hatred needs eyes like a black eyed sentinel'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'I wish I was a sentinel :/'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'analysis is fine, but you must understand that if you don't do a dispassionate analysis, the results are void.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Anaristos speaks the truth.  Bias is bad'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'd rather have my own than share yours'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I will not  let you have my bias, I am too selfish to do that :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I am sure that being angry all the time is a laugh riot. But the physiological penalty is too steep for me.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i watched a documentary once where some harvard people were researching the end of the world, and one investigator claimed she couldn't meditate for more than 5 minutes on the thought of death'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's something different between me and them, if it's true'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and you don't think, after admitting that, that you are not disturbed?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'I can think about death and dying and not be disturbed.  It's a part of life.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's three types of people in the bible, both come from adam'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and it states 'god watches the thoughts of man's wicked heart''
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'here you are with the ability to make any choice you want, and you choose to be miserable.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so maybe females are just typically more life-thinkers, and men more death thinkers'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that's a lot of bull taco :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't choose to be miserable, it's a part of me as much as your subconscious that feeds your minds with impulsion'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'I'm a woman, and don't mind thinking about dying, but don't quite know what a death thinker is lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'now you want to play the victim :) You are responsible for all  your actions, your state of being emanates from your actions.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and how about the warsaw ghetto portrayed in the 'film unfinished''
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'is that where you live?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'were the miserable people in the cage just figments of their own imaginations'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Noegel falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the entire world's situation evolves into the setting, so pretty much'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'depends how blind you are to social evolution'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so you are angry because they were delusional?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'I have anger issues and it is fricken exhausting'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos beams a smile at Snaebjorn.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'are you skinny snaebjorn?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or not fat'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i wonder how much anger plays into metabolism'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I admit that an existentialist approach to life might end up in depression, but that is less likely than ending up having a stoke due to angst. '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'it does play a part in weight gain I am certain of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the body is a closed system, Rabshakeh. So it plays a fundamental role.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'ok, i've always been thin, and most of my life negative'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so i guess being fat and skinny doesn't have to do with how angry you are'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it is all a matter of attitude, Rabshakeh. You are angry because you choose to be. But because it is a choice, you can change it. You can, instead, choose  to be happy or, at least, content. Your brain will accept the new directive and do what is necessary to implement it. All you have to do is choose.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there is no choice in instincts, which resolve into anger and happiness, which come from hate and peace'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'go slap your dog'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'as with anything there are exceptions to the rule. '
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'tell it to smile for a buscuit'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'there you go, you refuse to choose :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'choose to worship your milkbones or bite you'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'dog makes a choice, was it the real one or a mask'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'I completely agree with anaristos because my anger stems from my refusal to let shit go'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Slaymore: 'i live a positive lifestyle, if somthing starts to anger me I turn it into a positive. works every time'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that's a choice, but not ones I would recommend. You could instead, enjoy a breeze, laze during a sunny day. Smile at your neighbor.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'I agree'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'been there, done that, Snaebjorn :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'Yeah it sucks. Whats worse is when you develop a life around it and it becomes your company'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'True. Luckily, one can rely on feedback and change one's choices.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'At this point in my life it is exhausting and no longer serves a purpose. The path to correction for me though isnt an easy oneone but it is necessary'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'oh well To each their own path I suppose'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'use little vector steps :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Goddamn Piers Morgan is such a sniveling little dickhole.'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Slaymore: 'agreed'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Slaymore: 'if england is so great, go back'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Slaymore: 'are you piers morgan trying to see how many people hate you on aardwolf?'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so master splinter was behind the latest reactor problem, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21867705'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how was the world ever convinced that cutting the flesh off the tip of a penis makes you one of god's people?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i looked at the origins of circumcision in the bible, and fail to see the signifigance of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'god didn't command rebekkah to chop off moses sons foreskin or else he'd slaughter moses, she just did it'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or how did moses and rebekkah inform the people they have to cut off their foreskins so that moses doesn't get slaughtered by god, just like his son'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they seen it from a imaginary friend's commandments from heaven'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'indicators that moses was a tyrant dictator who did whatever he wanted to his cattle, of which he was living image of god for'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's amazing how much effort columbus had to put into finding his new trade route to asia, cause the earth was flat until then and the moors wouldn't let them trade through their lands (muslims)'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'then they sacrifice who knows how much stuff today destroying the earth on trips to mars'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, Nome Alaska has cable tv and internet now.....up to 105 mbit speed.......Nome Alaska ?!'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the code name for mortars during the korean war was tootsie rolls.....and when marines started running out of mortars during a battle, they needed to be resupplied....but the shipping clerk who sent them didnt know the codename for the mortars was tootsie rolls, so he sent the marines boxes of real tootsie rolls during the air drop resupply.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'must have been obama's fault.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: '3'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'depends on how far it goes before exploding'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'if it doesn't leave the tube, or pops off early like cheap firecrackers, it could take out an entire squad of trainees'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'when you handle explosives, shit can happen, and malfunction.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'but not according to nevadas idiot democrat.....the sequester caused it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sequester caused the asteroid strike, too'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I sure do hope california gets off its butt and taps into that huge oil and natgas shale field they found.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i hope california breaks off the continent and sinks'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'CA has a reputation to uphold, Riz.  I don't think they'll be drilling.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'cali is the 4th largest oil producer in the US :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sinking cali would get rid of a bunch of fake liberals'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'cali was 3rd, but north dakota passed it last year.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'north dakota will pass Alaska this year to be 2nd.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'but it will never catch Texas.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if cali doesnt do something though, wyoming or colorado will pass it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hell, even ohio might pass cali in 10 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'even illnois has lots of shale oil and gas, but the obamabots have stymied production of it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'California has a lot of beach.  Are you sure the figures were for petroleum oil and not suntan oil?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wealth is not allowed under communism'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I heard Obama ordered the Secret Service to shoot Akmedinjihad'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'wouldn't that be a CIA job?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doubt that's true, but if they had, it'd be a stupid idea'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'since he's leaving office this year'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the NSA does the black ops stuff.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'nah, what really happened was that he was in NYC for a UN thing and his SS detail adjusted their shotgun mount.  It accidentally discharged and nearly hit him.  Allegedly, he didn't even flinch.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Shame though - Ahmadinejad is such a well developed enemy, it is going to take a lot of time to replace him '
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if i were in chrarge, i'd just leave Iran alone'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'remove the sanctions, stop bugging them, just leave them a promise - if you launch a nuke, we'll turn you into a glass parking lot'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ahmed is a good guy....a real humanitarian.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Then where will you start a war to distract us from the great economic crisis of 2014?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'everyone laughs at that joke, Tiger.  We have all these nuclear weapons, but we've only ever actually used two of them.  The rest are never going to be used, or at best were only used at testing facilities.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there won't be one'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'what financial crisis ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'companies are making record profits after they fired 20% of their employees'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'companies are, people are not'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'the one that happens next autumn after I have made some money and bought put options with them'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'unfortunately your and my country are run by incompetents and evil people'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so we're all screwed, enjoy the descent'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'at hell is warm'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'but they love you so much nuts!'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'stfu and declare independance already so i can emigrate'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'My country may indeed be run by moderately incompetent people. I don't think they are particularly evil, though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'has to be one or the other, or both'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Energy companies have created 800,000 new jobs in the last 5 years, just think how many would be created if we moved towards a more pro energy centric plan.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can't be pro-energy and implement agenda21/global warming targets'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'pro-energy creates jobs and wealth, that doesn't fit in with the UN agenda, either'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the US doesnt pay its UN dues.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'On the positive side, the areas humans are restricted to by Agenda 21 aren't called jails.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'So it must be a good thing.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'What about executive order 66 ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they're called ghettos, a WW2 term used to refer to boys in striped pajamas.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'is anybody aware of any use of "niggardly" as a racial slur?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Isn't niggardly a variation of the word frugal?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Sure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_%22niggardly%22'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'or thrifty'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'did you google it, or know it?  I've actually never seen this wikipedia article, but I'm going to read it now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'It's about as offensive as saying that there is a "chink" in my armor.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Kojiro: I've read it before'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'reading that wiki article, so far I don't see a single case mentioned in it'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'There's a whole section on racial use'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it's talking about people getting offended at non-racial-slur use of the term'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'no it isn't'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'It's talking about people using it as a racial term'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that section...did you read it?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'yes, I did'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, it's talking about comedians talking about its potential'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'There's nothing about comedians in that entire section'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Jeremiah is a good show.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I thought jeremiah was a bullfrog'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and he was no friend of mine ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'don't think God prefers burning bushes over prophetic amphibeans.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'wait, I messed that up...'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'trojan man!'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'magnums'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'trojans are scum bags, literally.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'buying spellup potions in bulk, 400k per.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: '400K tps? Wow'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oladon: 'Err... why's this on debate? :P'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'at that price I'll seel you 10 :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '400k donkies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'he can't spell "barter"?'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or I am so used to using debate, I typed it without thinking :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'would you rather have had that on barter? :P'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'he assumes only people with warped minds (and who use this channel) would sell to him.'
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it would've just ended up with Oladon: guys, take it off barter, please'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Want to know why the price of gasoline in the US isnt dropping, even though the US produced a record amount of oil in 2012?'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the price of US/Canadian oil is $20 cheaper than brent sea oil, but the US refineries use the brent sea price to calculate the price of gasoline and diesel in the US, not the US/Canadian price of oil.'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'even though most of the gasoline/diesel produced in the US is made from US/Canadian oil'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) HappyDog Madcatz: 'Probably a good surfer or two, though I doubt I could name any'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) HappyDog Madcatz: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why are US government passing a "Montsanto Protection Act" immunising them against any future legal action for contamination or injury/illness/death caused by their products?'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how come huffington post reports that 'Military Suicides: One U.S. Veteran Dies Every 65 Minutes' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Shinseki mentioned in article'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hrm?'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'alarming suicide rates isn't it, almost like they're being executed'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if the article is real, that is, i seen it the day it came out'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'higher deaths from suicide than from combat. it's all the crap drugs they give them, all the experimental stuff'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what you said about monsanto i read happened last january already (2012)'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why has DHS refused to answer letters from multiple members of congress asking why they have purchased 1.6bn rounds of ammo and 2700 armoured carriers'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope, bill going through atm'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just giving some consumer confidence that they won't be held accountable for any sudden biochemical warfare '
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'fda doing it's job on the lab rat's, with their lab-taxes'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there is an ammendment to the bill that would strip them of their protection, but it's not gone through yet'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'gotta stick with the greens and blues.  If you end up getting a red-and-yellow pill, might as well shoot until you run out of bullets, 'cause you're gonna die.'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'haven't you heard, Tigernuts?  There's a war going on!'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'with?'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Monsanto wants immunity for starting a cancer epidemic'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'pretty much sums it up, zade'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'monsanto is almost exclusively owned and operated by 'gods chosen people', schapiro the marxist anarchist/biologist took the reigns, who's family members currently handle america's financing in new york and head it's lawyer dept in california, in 1930 or so'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Bill Gates is a large shareholder, too'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'family name originates with god's chosen people from spain immigrating to america too'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Bill Gates, the well known proponent of eugenics'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'way to show their appreciation for fighting the evil antichrist military'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'from a family of eugenicists :-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'interesting struggle for power going on in the republican party, hope the youth win'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, i seen on this one website, (black power, sort of), http://uhurunews.com/story?resource_name=seeds-of-war-the-destruction-of-seeds-and-independent-farming-in-africa , a similar trend as happened in india, involving the bill and melinda gates foundation'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'lots of bad stuff in south america too, rab'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'then there's things like the neem weed which they say has all kinds of free medicinal use, and too many things to bother to even try to squeeze into a few sentences'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah sort of, there's some decent things going on there toot hough'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'seen a monsanto documentary once where they showed how they can tell when their corn has been cross polinated with a mutant, cause there'll be 3 ears per leaf instead of one'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they have gmo monsanto stuff outlawed there'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how do you think the the Cyprus situation will end up'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but they still let toxic-gold mining practices and stuff go on'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't know, i don't like how they were planning on shaving off non-wealthy people's accounts'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i read once that the rothschild family owns a home in greece though, and according to one account, they own over 257 trillion dollars, or was it 512'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you know, so how is greece in debt with the richest people in the world there, owning like half the world's wealth'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doesn't sound very likely'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Sunday evening they will reach a compromise and tax some depositors, and the total sum will be less than it is supposed to be and EU will say good enough.'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm not sure how the nazi's managed to finance all their war in ww2, but they do have alot of ore deposits and put their people to work building the machines and ammunition they used'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'The richest people also generally have the option to shuffle their money around and pay 'taxes' to Cayman Islands and such :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'usually it's outside funding that people think about, not using what they have available to build their own things'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Somewhat amusing that greek debt crashes Cyprus'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'also since we are doing predictions, economists are going to raise growth forecasts during q2 and lower them during late q3 and q4 :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i think it was funny that the EU got a nobel peace prize from norway this year'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'most of it's leaders didn' want to go and receive it'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'bitter peace if i ever saw one'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i read one article from a think-tank claiming that greece was arming itself on a treadmill with the eu debt to defend against a turkish invasion'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so if those crazy islams're trying to invade greece, then the rest of europe, why would they have them on a treadmill instead of supporing their defense'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'amusing cluster of headlines: "FAA to close air control towers due to sequester", just below "Biden's one-night paris hotel tab $585k", just below "$459k hotel bill in London"'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'recent poll rates only 18% of republicans, 31% of independants, and 58% of democrats have favorable opinion of Obamacare'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Gun owners sue new york government to restore 2nd ammendment.'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '(hope they succeed)'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'according to when i looked up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomberg_Television , they edited out this phrase from a speech on television, -> By 2025, the amount of taxes we currently pay will only be enough to finance: our healthcare programs (Medicare and Medicaid), social security, and the interest we owe on our debt. That's it. Every other national priority: education, transportation, even our national security, will have to be paid for with borrowed money. Now ultimately this rising debt will cost jobs and damage our economy. It will prevent us from making the investments we need to win the future. We won't be able to afford good schools, new research, or the repair of roads. All the things that create new jobs and new businesses here in America. Businesses would be less likely... '
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so , for instance, where are the doctors for obamacare going to come from'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they can't seem to afford education there'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'best ask fake liberals where the money comes from, and the gop'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the same questions are being asked in the UK'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Montsanto. Umbrella Corporation. Similarities?'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'none'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Umbrella was building biological weapons'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'except in school cafeterias, food is not a weapon.'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'controlling the world's food and water supply, along with education, means that the world is under the control of your progeny forever'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you can live without any of this stuff, but once the basics are filtered and off limits, then you're hosed'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's way's to make food, like that 1971 corn crop, gmo which will be exterminated by a man-made virus, which real plants weren't able to be'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'who knows, maybe they can do the same with people'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Nature always finds a way, Rabshakah.'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'highly regulated systems benefit those who have influence'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'T/F?'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if your regulators are hand-selected, and determine who's systems may proceed, then i guess so'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'what's the difference between selected and hand-selected?'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Ted Nugent rocks!'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'obama pledges 200 mil to jordan, would have have paid for the operation of 149 air traffic control trowers?'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21902303 , http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21906556'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'aren't you guys glad, can build submarines and nuclear warheads to sink any monkey's crossing the ocean to invade you, and then enslave yourself to a biblical dictator from across the ocean and 2000 miles of desert'
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'fuckin stupid, can't even have any real warlords in charge of the world's military's, bunch of clowns'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Massive volcanic eruptions may have led to the extermination of half of Earth's species some 200 million years ago, a new study suggests.'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The release of gases from giant eruptions caused climate change that led to the End-Triassic Extinction, the widespread loss of land and sea species that made way for the rise of the dinosaurs, the research says. The new study, published Thursday in the journal Science, shows that a set of major eruptions spanning from what is now New Jersey to Morocco occurred very close to the time of the extinction.'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'exactly......never met a woman half as reliable as a horse.  -- John Wayne.'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Any woman that devotes her life to making one man miserable, instead of many men happy doesnt get my vote!  -- John Wayne'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Boris Berezovsky found dead in his bath. Suspicious death, probably Putin-bought assasination'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'not even the rich are safe from the rich'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if what you say's what is'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well, could have been a non-political murder, but what are the odds? not exactly common here, we're not chicago'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avieta: 'with power comes greater enemys..'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and that frenchman floating facedown in a lake or something the other day, lawyer'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'had a suicide note though, i didn't get to analyze it'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'extremely silly hit piece: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130323/DA56UDC02.html'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'burps. what burps are the nastiest?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'That hydroelectic dam system that the turks built in eastern turkey is pretty impressive....provides almost 25% of the countries power, and provides irrigation for tons of farms.   Created over 10 million new jobs over the years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'In Sweden we get 50% of our power from hydro (and the  other half from nuclear).'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Sweden is not Turkey :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I also think eastern turkey should become a tourist hotbed, but most people are afraid to go there, so the tourist trade is almost non existent....a shame.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Many of the areas in the world are like that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'what's so great about tourism?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Turkey has "always" been right between the christian and islam world, which makes it a bit unstable'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'turkey's been the source of invasions of europe for the last 1200 years'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'wait, so Sweden is basically living atop a neutrino detector?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'How did you make that conclusion?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'heavy water.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Ok..... yeah, sure, let's say that. :P'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I just wish the swedish citizens would have the guts to tell our politicians that it's time to go for a new generation of nuclear reactors. We should be leading the research on safe nuclear, not clinging to fantasies that we can shut down reactors. Imho.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'should be building pebble bed nuclear reactors....ultra safe, and efficient.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i think sweden should look at the people who they provide electricity to's concerns before any 'memorandum of industrial espionage understanding' nuclear capitalization's, such as preventing vigilante's like breivik who couldn't stand the implications of the influx of immigrants, who i already provided reference to what they're causing'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'There are so many new, safe technologies, but no one seems to be willing to try them, I don't get it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i like that jus sanguinis, citizen by blood - priority of government before '
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'these un-natural immigration globalist bullshit'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Terrorists are everywhere, can't let them hinder progress.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'If the french can upgrade their nuclear reactor fleet with pebble bed reactors, then so can the rest of the world. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Well, the french _are_ the leaders in nuclear, and always have been.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'terrorists are the modern age corsair'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'they are all government-sponsored, though the government is not necessarily that of the country of origin :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Sweden has been critized for lack of security around its nuclear plants, so some improvement there is needed, definitely.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sweden doesn't have enough of a military or police'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and if they do something proactive, the media calls them racist, with their puppet globalist politicians'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they've got a million-man army that's shovel-ready'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'what is sweden's immigration policy?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and why would anyone want to blow up sweeden?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'on thelocal.se last year, they imported 112,000 immigrants from non-eu nations'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'sweden*'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'imported?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'slave labor'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'they came in ships chained to the bilge?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Just because you are a racist, Rab, doesn't mean we are all scared of islam immigrants.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that's what "imported" sounds  like, Hanslanda :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm not a racist, depending how broadly you apply the term, my specifications are more precise what i consider an undesireable person, than what color they are'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'nah, they take full advantage of modern technology.  Planes and the internet trick a lot of people into getting stranded somewhere they can't escape from.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You are making racist statements, so I conclude you are a racist.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'though, most colored people are undesirable :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and i spoke to jews who pretended to be neo-nazi's, should i call them nazi's because they're pretending to be the mind of one'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yes'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'do you have to be a certain race to be a neo-nazi?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'nope, there are black neos, too'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they're pretending for the purpose of profiling people, so they're not a neo-nazi'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'what about a neo-con ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'actually, there are - hans, i listened to one before'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they don't have white people neither, they're more precise in what they hate'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'right, Hanslanda. So calling one a neo-nazi is enough, no need to mention the race.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'people who use race to distinguish people when the context is non-territorial, tend to be racist, imo.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Wonder why black folks in America don't realise they're voting in droves for the political party who's militant wing was the KKK'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i doubt there's any connection to the democratic party of the 1800's and now'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sort of like wondering how come so many surname 'rice' black people get in power, with that being the author of the inspiration for the jim crow laws'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'history of a party + it's history is important, however'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'people are rather selective in what bits of history they abuse in order to promote an agenda'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Probably hard to find a more universal truth.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Larry Elder seems to be a grounded dude'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Pretty much the whole recorded world history is skewed towards a europe-centric view.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd argue it isn't europe-centric'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not specifically'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'demonification of white people, slav or non-slav is mostly what it's geared towards'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i seen the kind of things they teach people in africa'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what do they teach people in africa?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'do a little digging, you'll be disgusted by what you find in some cases'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what do the teach, and who is it doing the teaching?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'TBH, I am more disgusted by what my ancestors thought and did not that long ago.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'So you really haven't seen it firsthand?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that all white people need to be enslaved by blacks, and owe them for crimes done to ancestors long past and things like that'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'E.g. the swedish race study institute in the 20s.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i've seen it on video's and documentary's and news, and it's results are readily observable'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'Which documentaries?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and who funds this teachign?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'and which news programs?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't keep a chronography of everything i research'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'foreign aid is probably responsible for some of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Whites do not owe anything to the Africans'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'then it isnt researrch'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'sort of like al qaeda 'hijacks' charity, and says it came from allah , when it was the good intentions of the 'enemy' they teach'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'foreign aid is how it's paid, but which institutes push that agenda?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'Hearsay is definitely not research.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's noted on several major media networks, and media is what asks for more charity money, so it's something to consider'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Africans captured and sold the african slaves to some whites'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'It's obvious that there are some angry black people in e.g. SA. Some of them are on aard. And, I can understand that they are angry and hateful. They have to learn their lesson about treating people with another color the hard way, just as white people are doing right now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well i want to know who it is doing the teaching and pushing the agenda. I have suspicions without even looking into it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'Unfortunately I cannot beleive you if you have no sources.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if you look on unmissions.org's own websites, on dr congo for instance, you can see them mention misinformation and find endless points of curiousity'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Dutch stealing all those diamonds from the South African natives -- perhaps the Dutch owe something'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'To anyone that has ever read any history, this is an obvious and inevitable course of events.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's a starting point among many, don't need to get into the results like crucifixes jammed into throats and things like that, but those're things that cause more curiousity as to the source'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Spanish stealing all that gold from the South Americans -- perhaps the Spanish owe something'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'I shouldn't have to work to prove your point.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'The difference is that the spanish and portugese killed the native south americans. The native africans are still around.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm sure everything i ever said on the internet is logged, context and all, if the sources are missing then they were there otherwise i wouldn't have posted them in real time - so if you've got some high level access to my internet adventures, you'd have them all readily available'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'again, if you want me to beleive you, you do the work'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'And, BTW, they didn't steal so much gold, more silver. (Which also made the spanish bank rupt, nice turn of events).'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there are no "native" nonwhite Africans in the USA, except as visitors or illegal immigrants'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't want you to believe me, truth is relative to the mind considering the subject, how informed it is is why witches are burned and zealots are determined by the dominant level of awareness'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Nor any native white people, Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'Then you need a propaganda channel, since debate with you is useless'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Lesson from history: If you are going to steal from native people, kill them all, otherwise it will bite you in the ass.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'wrong Ranrr'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'Also, do it more than 100 years ago, so they blend in better.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'Tigernuts takes the time to source his stuff when it catches my eye at least, and I thank him for that.  Broadens my horizons'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ranrr pats Zade on his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the movie 'conquest of paradise' shows that columbus tried to get along with the american natives, but the replacements sent to his dreamland of an alternative trade route to asia, as the moors (muslims) wouldn't let spain trade through their lands with asia, brutalized them'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'kind of like dances with wolves'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's something that's spreading today, across the world, the muslims are setting up shop'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Muslim-hate, who didn't see this coming?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'america's 'silk road' strategy is masterminded from uzbekistan and turkey for instance'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'muslim-hate, calling muslims hating kafir's, or dhimmi's, muslim-hate?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'well, who would have saw such a thing coming, i guess you shouldn't be racist'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Exactly, you shouldn't be. So, why are you?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'british elite, with their spanish king in stalin's administration, such as bernard shaw and his advocation of the beautiful islamic dictatorship, stemming back to the empress of france and alexandria of denmark'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'alexandra*'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'prince charles today advocating islam, in some reports'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'obviously there's a multi-centural strategy transpiring'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'So? Are you afraid of muslims?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'as does that monaco king'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i'm a dhimmi to them, they dismember people, cut off their heads, crucify them, rape their women, etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'look at news in egypt, even they're afraid of muslims'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'all lawfully according to their books'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yeah, and christians are sooo nice. As the 100k dead civilians in iraq about that. Wait, you can't.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, go look through the gospel and point out the commandments that allow what the muslims do'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'christians are sooo nice, separating the religion from the physical reality'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Imho, all religions are equally bad, and peaceful religions don't exist. Of course, religion is just an excuse to kill people, the real reason is most often power, land or other resources.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and imo, if you're going to have a religion that crucify's and decapitates people, it should be in the best interest of your own sovereign nation'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'But, without having done the math, I don't think you can find a religion that has had more people killed in its name than christianity.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'possibly the south american death cults'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'christianity is a religion, the book it preaches doesn't involve a single ocmmandment, except in james when christ incarnate is on the earth to say who lives and who dies'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'to kill anybody on behalf of the book'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'apparently not l'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'So? The same can be said for islam. Books don't matter, actions matter.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'apparently now 15 congressman have written to the DHS demanding to know why they have bought 1.6bn rounds of ammunition (and have had no answer) and possibly Rand Paul gearing up for another filibuster'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'shame it's still such a small number of congressmen prepared to do their job'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'according to an article i read on news.az a few months ago, over 54 congress seats are filled by their agents'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or rather, 'working for us' so maybe a bill they wanted passed'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's adjacent to iran, so who knwos what they got figuring'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'eh?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you need to run that past me again'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I heard that the NWO runs the US senate, and the president is a member of the illuminati. And, he's actually white, and an illegal alien.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'one of those things is essentially correct'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'also an article about the comptroller of texas visiting azerbaijan'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's who handles texas's money'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's believable and not unexpected'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'but the 54 i remember reading on there, i posted the link in real time on here awhile ago'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'az is a big oil route there in the monopoly game from asia to russia and stuff'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'azerbaijan is a big oil producing area, as is texas'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Someone needs to learn some basic source critizism, it seems. '
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if i had kept a document of all the links i ever posted with a rundown on why, it would probably be over a gigabyte big, and as difficult to repeat as that many chars entails'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i have nothing against sources from abroad, provided you understand the agenda/bias behind it and can compensate for it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'only trouble is when you get people like Yuna and Dagnir who won't believe anything unless it's from CNN, MSNBC or in a hollywood movie'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'one thing to keep in mind though, in mexico city, in the ex-ussr azerbaijan, in azerbaijan they threaten mexico if they remove a statue of it's former USSR dictator in mexico city'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Does that only apply to sources from "abroad"?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'applies to all sources, Ranrr'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's considered occupied territory'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so how cold is the cold war, since the new democracy erects statues of it's life without rights in mexico'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'cold war never ended'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'And never started.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'ended 18989-1990'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'er, 1989'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Ranrr seems to be in denial in regard to the cold war, with disregard to the cold war'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yet, the united nations tells all the democracy's where to send their soldiers, releases kenyan war criminals against humanityt o run for president - elects kenyan to be it's human rights observer, keeps mlasovic imprisoned (comparative justice), and in 1945 In exchange for supporting Thailand's admission to the United Nations, the Soviet Union demanded repeal of anticommunist legislation.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'Wikipedia says it ended in 1991'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and the goal of marxist-leninism: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Thailand), is a communist ideology, officially based upon the theories of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and Vladimir Lenin, that promotes the development and creation of an international communist society through the leadership of a vanguard party presiding over a revolutionary socialist state that represents a dictatorship of the proletariat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I'm just saying that the so called cold war wasn't a war and it wasn't cold. It was just a bunch of unrelated events called the cold war in the US, so that they could get more money for military (and probably similar propaganda in the east).'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'united nations is likely the end of the cold war, with the communists on top then, judging from that - with some racist intonations challenged through the comparative justice'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and who was it who funded/pushed Mr Marx?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'people like sankara and others, like the president of liberia are also considerate - with their iran contra, world bank subversions etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'ah, Cold War denialism'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'karl marx was a rabbi, with the same ideology as rabbi's in palestine at the time'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'rothschilds are jewish, and jews seem to control every nation they're a minority in'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'ahh, a jewish rant'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Not denying any events, just saying the name is not descriptive.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'from brazil to sweden'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'll get out the duck tape'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'rant?  look up the facts, and prove them wrong'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'Jews are a minority in EVERY country (except maybe Israel) '
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not all of the rothechilds are jews'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Marx was a Lutheran'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and was never a rabbi'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'no he wasn't, lutherans were loyal to germany - marx usurped the peace between russia and germany through his revolution'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'also exterminating all royalty that isn't a puppet'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'Lutherans arent loyal to a country.  Call it firsthand knowledge'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'then how come otto von bismarck 'dubbed the 1st fuher' did so well for germany, being loyal to king wilhelm'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'dubbed the 2nd fuher'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'i need to turn this channel off for a bit.  I feel like I am being forcefed blatant lies fro Rab at the moment'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that Marx wasn't funded by globalist bankers is not in doubt'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the rest of it, sounds like hyperbole'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i should really go to Highgate cemetary and draw a big penis on Karl Marx's memorial'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'chinese make pilgrimages there '
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i read on bbc a year or two ago'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's like muslims going to mecca once a year'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'hess's grave gets desecrated all the time'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'though if we're being "consistent" then we should tear down his memorials and remove his body to prevent pilgrimages and worship'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you serious that they never found hitler's body?  they say he committed suicide, but i never hear mention of his grave'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'of course they found his body, but they almost certainly destroyed it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they dug up other leading Nazi members bodies and removed them because of people using their graves as shrines/pilgrimage points'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they'd probably have that place turned into some kind of a mockery or another, maybe they'd get all blonde haired blue eyed german women and give their vagina's hitler moustaches and turn it into a whorehouse memorial, with main patrons being black or some other non-german entity'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, i'm just thinking in terms of how the future folded out, what kind of a locator could be devised'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe it's in amsterdam'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'spellup all'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'glad you know how that works'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'even in the mash tv series they liked to talk of how much of a whore germany is '
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i guess it's alright they lost their war there and got turned into more of a whore themselves, maybe it's like karma'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we're all a bit beyond Nazi Germany'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'learn the lessons and move on'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'was a fan of metallica until i realized lars ulrich's godfather was one of those early porno pioneers for their afro-cola, white genocide, black immigration to europe, whorehousings'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'always knew there was something up with that though, from my neighbour when i was a kid in militant northern canada'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Metallica sold out'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'still enjoy their music though'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade never liked Metallica 
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Metallica is music for middle aged guys. Get off my lawn!'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'They were pretty good once, like in the middle 80s.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'is Metallica a homosexual african group - the Metallica music seemed mediocre, never stood out, except as something to ycchy to avoid'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Compared to the good heavy metal of the 80s, like iron maiden, ac/dc or black sabbath, they were pretty bad.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i don't like any of those bands really, some of their songs reflect concepts i think about sometimes is all i listen to them for'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'most of the original rock 'n roll is based on the pillaging of europe by the allied forces'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and how much of a free slutfest they enjoy at their expense'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'such as the politician who is a fan of elvis presley, the warsaw ghetto (he happens to be jewish), and the release of 'in the ghetto' by elvis presley being on his birthday'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'acdc's money for nothing and chix for free, or was that the dire straits'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'akin to 'banana money' as issued bo japan to singapore in ww2'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'rock n roll might have got it's 'rock' from either jesus christ tomb, or else rudolf rocker, who was einstein's favourite jewish anarchist'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sequester doesn't appear to have stopped $500 million of aid for Palestinians'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'we should stop that'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'all aid'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'ditto here in the UK'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'USA set to send troops to Syria or use Israeli proxies after jihadists are confirmed as using munitions with home-made chemical warheads'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what a fucking whitewash'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'just bomb the shit outta syria, save some cash on the back end'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in other news, Jim Carrey has once again proved how irrelevent him and his dead career is by releasting a song for "heartless motherfuckers unwilling to benf dor the safety of our kids"'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'thanks for that, Jim, now go stick to 3rd rate comedies with the one character you can play'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'House intelligence committee chair Mike Rogers "It is abundantly clear that a red line has been crossed"'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes, Mike, only if you have a stretchy red line which you can move anywhere you want on a whim'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Retired army captain warns DHS acquisitions are bold threat of war against american people, suggests tObama's administration intends a 'coup' against the masses'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'essentially what i thought was going to happen all along'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i said all along that they will overthrow the USA bill of rights and constitution to form a single homogenous country - the left have to do that in order to push their fake socialism to the next level of control because otherwise they'll just get blocked by the states that aren't braindead enough to vote for it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Yeah, you'd have to be a fool to think that America is not at least on the road to tyranny. Unfortunately most Americans are fools. Don't want to see what is really happeneing because it would make you "unpopular". Hivemind in and out man I swear.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in 2008 Obama said he wanted a domestic military security force as large as the army'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'was part of his ticket'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there will be a minimum of 3 months national service in this defence force for all citizens'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Yeah, and everybody seems to ignore this.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Notice how quiet debate is right now. While you bring this stuff up. That is what the collective is like too.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yup'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why do you think that is?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they don't want to believe it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Well I almost can't blame them. Who wants something like that to be true?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'if you rearrange the letters in debate you get the word "troll"'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'only if you play it backwards from an analogue source'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'really, though, who wants to rehash old shit that Faux News was talking about months/years ago?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'which?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'any of it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so if 2 years ago, someone said that in the next 8 years they were going to kill your kids, if you hear that the same guy has bought a gun and is headed in your direction, you'd say "oh, well that's old news, don't care about that"?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that's not news'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'news is what's already happened'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'stories develop, hans'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '4 years ago you hadn't had a massive armaments buildup in the DHS'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'besides, people have very short memories'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how many people who voted for Obama remember that he even said that?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'we did, actually.  Glenn Beck's been talking about for at least that long.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Glenn Beck's a tard'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Because he is black and if you are critical of Obama then you are a "racist".'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'he's usually right, though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, he usually poo-poo's stuff until it's been proven right'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if he was right, he would still be on fox news, and not in the wastelands of podcasting.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he poo-poo'd the bullets purchase, he poo-poo'd agenda21'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Shit, Alex Jones is better than Glenn Beck by a mile. And I don't even fully trust Alex Jones.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he's just a slimebag clinker'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'no, he was warning about it before anyone.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they were calling him crazy at the time.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the guy is a first rate nutcase.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Art Bell has more credibility then glenn beck.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yeast has more credibility than Glenn Beck'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'mind you, looking at American media, yeast is more credible than most of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not that the BBC is much better'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'at least rush limbaugh is intelligent, and uses the media for his purpose correctly.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'glenn beck had it all, and destroyed himself.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he's a cult of personality, riz'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'media personalities aside, that's what the state of play is so far, and that's my take on why it's going on and where it's going to'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'glenn beck should get a show on comedy central......then he will become popular again.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'states will cease to exist as governing bodies, they'll exist only for administrative reasons'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all areas will have identikit rules, taxation, policies'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'except for city ordnances and things that don't really matter'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'which is why they're now pushing very hard indeed for compulsory gun registration'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so that when they ratify the UN small arms treaty later in the year, they can then confiscate so as not to be in contravention of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, Automakers are expanding their Texas factories by 3000 employees in the next 2 years to increase production of trucks and suv's.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'joy, shitty motor production being moved back home'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Trucks are the #1 seller in Texas.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'coming emissions rules means they'll be shit, and nobody except the dealership will be allowed to fix them'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hah, my natgas truck is 80% cleaner then any gasoline or diesel truck.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they won't be selling you YOUR nat gas truck'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they'll be selling you a high-tech computerised monster with built in failure-points that you cannot maintain'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the sheep can buy those, I will stick with pre94 vehicles.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then you'll have laws brought in limiting co2 emissions which will cause them to put more stuff in it to break, and then they'll put in rules that say that you cannot have a car on the road that has ANY non-factory parts in it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '(such as what they're rolling out over the EU soon)'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a model T is more efficient and cleaner then modern vehicles that are 2x heavier.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in better news, texas seeks to repatriate it's gold from the federal reserve'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it took the US 80 years to finally surpass the mpg of a model T by the avg vehicle in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'in 1908, the avg mpg of vehicles was 21....in 1938 it had dropped to 14 mpg.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'at what speed...'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Vial of virak material goes missing from UTMB lab, called Guanarito, is responsible for deaths in south america and is currently being researched because of it's potential use as a bioweapon'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'bat guano ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'bat guano is a bioweapon.....just walk into a cave where they live.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'berovsky death appears to be suicide'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the russians killed him'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'leader of the syrian opposition government resigns, claims islamists have too much influence'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WzsU-Cj8yKc'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '(contains language)'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the US has 80 million acres or so of peat that can be used as a resource, but 99% of it still goes unused.  What a shame.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'can't'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'carbon footprint, it would mean paying Al Gore too much money for not saving drowning polar bears'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'We dont care about co2 in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you don't, the people who run your country do'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no they dont.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're misinformed'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'they are about sulphur dioxide.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they hold the save teh polar bears meetings in thailand, where humans have the right to be whores'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Russia uses 60 million tons of peat each year to produce electricity.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'nicholas cage will keep things straight in 'bangkok dangerous' though, making sure neither of the pimps leave the limousine'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'I wonder how much peat the scotts use to dry their malted barley.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if you live in massachusetts you can buy peat blocks to burn in your woodstove.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they tested a floating peat moss that encapsulates oil and leaves out water while remaining buoyant for raking off the coast of norway one year'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100415085315.htm Apr. 15, 2010  A small Norwegian company has a peat moss product that could come to play a surprising role in a key area. '
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'but, can you re-peat it?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dispel Majic ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so instead of using that illegal chemical dispersant, they could have used some of the unutilized peat moss, transformed it into that stuff, spread it, raked it, strained it (thus keeping money from the oil retrieved), dried it, and re-peated it '
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i pointed that out on like the day of the oil spill'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he said re-peat.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'majic wins.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'used again, and repeated'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's been a globalist agenda since before the year 1900 to melt the arctic ocean though'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'in the 1950's they wanted to build a dam across the water from alaska to russia to speed up it's melting'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the arctic ocean is melted...it is water.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'shock discovery: Artic ocean is made of water!'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'which isn't all frozen all year long, but alot of it is'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'scientists expect before year 2025 it'll have at least 1 day of icelessness'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Boooo there have been periods of global warming and cooling throughout earth's history'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, and human's don't pollute the great lakes, which indians used to drink out of until the new humans came'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'obviously humans have 0 impact on the environment that covers pelicans with oil'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'It happens, but it's a bit sensationalized.  Volcanos put out way more than we do, but I'm not saying we have zero impact.  We're just not that horrible destroyers some make us humans out to be'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'If anything is going to kill us, it's going to be a lack of resources'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'you know, someday we are going to find a human bone on Mars, and the enviro whackos will say humans caused global warming on Mars, and killed themselves.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, humans couldn't do without that gold under the amazon, so they had to cut it down to prevent global warming'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'That would be interesting to find bones on Mars, but highly improbable'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'We wil never run out of resources, because we can MAKE new resources, it is called technological advancement.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Making new resources costs resources'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'only energy.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Plus technology always has the human greed influence'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and a little matter'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'You can't make energy silly billy'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'It's gotta come from somewhere'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You dont need oil to make energy...you can use fusion, nuclear, solar, wind, etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'And oil is required to make the necessary parts for those machines'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we are not going to run out of uranium or thorium for nuclear power, or helium2 for fusion.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or is it helium3 ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'helim2, deuterium'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'No idea, since we don't have a viable fusion source yet'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'So whatever they're using now, is probably going to change'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'but how many billions of humans require to starve to death and or die horribly so that a few humans may become rich'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'deuterium is heavy hydrogen'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'hydrogen2 even'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'as my grandpa puts it, 'we're bugs to them''
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'I was tricked!'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'er  so a few humans may becoime richer'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'It is the way of the world as it is, Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so next time you see the raid ant-killer commercial, where you put the nozzle on their hive and squeeze the foam into the hole, remember - you're the same to the people who made that application of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Until someone makes some sort of breakthrough in economic science, there will always be poor people.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'If everybody in the world made the same amount of money, things wouldn't be worth anything, because everybody could afford everything.  Then people would charge more to get more money'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'bah, until we have a United Earth, there will always be poor people.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Big circle of doom'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there will always be poor people even with a united earth'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there'll never be a united earth, division is natural - like in the gospel, where if one city doesn't accept you, shake the dust from your feet and move to the next'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Still poor people in United Earth lol.  Just because you have one country doesn't change a thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'A god is likely to euhanise the wicked humans from the planet '
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'And there are different levels of poor.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a poor person income in the US is upper middle class in India.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'the goal isn't a uniform level of wealth, it is just insuring that being poor isn't a death sentence'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Yeah but it costs more to live here'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'So, the world wants to be at least as poor as poverty in the US?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Where everyone can afford internet and a cell phone'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'I could agree with that.  But it's kind of their own countries doing that to them'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, it means save up your money, and then move to Belize, where a $50k a year in interest from your money gives you a really nice lifestyle in Belize, on the beach.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Lol I had a guy from work move to Baja California and lives in a mansion for almost nothing (compared to US)'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'interest on 50k or 50k's worth of interest?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Internet and a cell phone is at least 65an per month in Canada -- that is not cheap'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '50k worth of interest.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you cannot compare poverty in terms of absolute wealth across different locations'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'silly rizgoth'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'so like 1 million dollars and 5% ror? not an easy goal'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: '65 a month?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '5% interest is easy to get, use your brain.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'a rock solid 5%? not so easy to obtain'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'maybe 5% over the long haul, maybe even better, but not guaranteed'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the avg muni bond in Texas pays 4%....that is AVG, many of them pay much more.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'tax free'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'should sanctions be placed on france and britain for supporting the syrian rebels, which terrorize syrian people, including alleged reports of usage of chemical weapons on civilians - among numerous rapes and other things'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'I find that hard to believe'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes, their should'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Rape is more of a criminal thing, I would say, but confirmed chemical weapons attacks should be punished'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Rape isn't sanctioned by a country, the individual soldier should be punished in the jurisdiction of the crime... not like it's going to happen'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'pretty impossible to sanction a g8 country, hell even a g20'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'suggest the whole g7/g8/g20/UN to be pointless hypocritical waffle then'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Noegel wildly nods her head at Tigernuts... she seems to be in total awe.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'There is a lady in NYC who has her whole inheritance in NY muni bonds, she earns about $20 million a year in interest, tax free.  Most of the bonds she bought are 30-40 year bonds that had yields of 6-8%'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Inheritance would be nice'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'even if you could get a guaranteed 5% return on some form of bond or investment (which you cannot) you'll find that in realterms you've made a loss as inflation is, and will continue to be >5%'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'yeah but the principle is in the billions'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'infaltion has not been more than 5%'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'inflation is more than 5% right now and has been for a while'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'only reason it hasn't been much higher than that is because the housing market has been static for a couple of years'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'UK government is getting ready to end that, though'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Different countries I suppose'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'USA's inflation has also been running at 4-8%'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'inflation was 5% + for only 3 months in 2008'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'of course, you realise that that chart is fiction because it doesn't account for the minimum 3 different incompatible measures of inflation used over that time'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: '1991 saw 2 months over 5%'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'my inflation rate in 2012 was up 1.6% from 2011....that is the REAL inflation rate as it affects me....national rates mean nothing.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'personal inflation for me has been running at around 10% for all my adult life'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Jesus'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'mainly because transport is a large part of my expenditure'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'yes that says the official has hardly been over 5% '
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, tiger also loves those salt and vinegar pringles......*duck*'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hardly been over 5% except since 1987 and every year since except 2010 ;=-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'salt and vinegar is awesome'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the pickle-flavored chips are better, though'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Noegel is agreeing with that the soul of Hans person again...
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Except for the pickle ones ew'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'dill pickle flavored chips?  bleh.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'ever tried the cheeseburger lays?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Dill flavored sunflower seeds are awesome when trying to stay awake'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'texas bbq flavored cereal.....yum.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'I'm from Texas, Riz, and that sounds horrendous lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'sounds better than beer cereal'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'whipped cream and sardines'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'Or FPSRussia on youtube eating vodka cheerios'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'vodka is just flavored water with an aftereffect'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that guys got quite the playground doesn't he?  i seen him blowing up cars and and all kinds of things, skeet shooting land mines'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I am going to build my own UAV, and fly it over the southern border looking for evil doers......'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I wonder if the BP will shoot it down.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i watch his youtube video's sometimes, they're funny in a destructive way'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Noegel: 'He sure does Rabshakeh.  I think he is in Oregon'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Britain may have enough offshore shale gas to catapult it into the top ranks of global producers, energy experts now believe'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'UK offshore reserves of shale gas could exceed one thousand trillion cubic feet (tcf), compared to current rates of UK gas consumption of 3.5 tcf a year'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and how far ahead into the future do they look for unknown consequences/cause - effect, etc - what alternative technology's and science are put on the backburner and not experimented with to replace the destruction caused by the extraction industry'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or just like horses they like their sugar cubes and don't care about when they stop arriving'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Unlike in the United States, where mineral exploration rights are with the private property holder, most European law gives mineral exploitation rights to governments, which provides a serious obstacle to speedy development of onshore shale.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'the land i'm on now, somebody owns the mineral rights to it who's progeny lives in the usa'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'there's potash and gas and stuff under it though, that was theirs over 100 years ago'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'where i live, the government owns all the mineral and mining rights, regardless of who owns the land'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Here in Texas, about half the land is separated from the mineral rights.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'So you need to buy the land, and then buy the mineral rights if someone else owns them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I would never buy land in US though, if it didnt have the mineral and water rights attached to it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'landowners have no rights, the mineral or water owners have all the rights.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'UK government are chipping into the UK shale investment'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mineral rights owners can have your house moved from the land if they want.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Egypt on the verge of civil war, it seems'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'at least , from the news article i seen where a man's son was shot, they have a fundamental purpose to some of their opposition'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's disappointingly predictable what is going to happen though'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i hope the better guys win if they do have one, the military seems to be on the side of the people like the guy who's son wsa shot, since their presence is supported by them'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the muslim brotherhood will crack down with authoritarianism and violence and you'll either have a strict islamic state under sharia law as a result, or there'll be civil war'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Cyprus needs needs to confiscate all the russian bank accts, and leave the regular citizens alone.....that would fix the problem.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'cyprus needs to let their banks fold'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'yeah, but their soldiers have to enforce the authoritarianism on their behalf, and that's not guaranteed'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not guaranteed, rab, but the government did win a majority.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'all those russian mobster deposits are what make the cyprus banks 8x larger then the economy they serve.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '.. is it?  they're made up of their population of people who's sons could have been shot too'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't think anything can be taken for granted there'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'best you can hope for is new elections'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'interesting: Fearing international intrusion into Arizonas affairs, the Senate voted Wednesday to make it illegal for state and local governments to recognize the United Nations or any of its declarations as legal authority here.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'such a thing shouldn't need to have been said, unfortunately other parts of government seemed to have forgotten it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Almost everything that comes out of the UN are just "recommendations"'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Almost none are considered legally binding'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's not the problem'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it was a reference to Leon Panetta using the UN as conferring legal authority for military action'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Doesn't matter what it's a "reference to" once the law in in place.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'use it or ignore it as necessary'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'the UN just recommends stuff.  haven't seen the bill you're talking about, but I'm assuming it's just saying that they can't prosecute someone for not following the recommendations without first enacting those laws.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'at least, that's what you made it sound like'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nah, it's a barrier law to prevent the UN from being used as a legal basis for an action, and makes it illegal for state, county, or local officials from implementing the UN rio declaration on the environment and development or the Statement of Principles for Sustainable Development, or receiving or giving money for, being a member of, contracting services from etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Arizoa is seeking to counter the UN small arms treaty (a treaty which is illegal for the USA or the Potus to sign or to agree to because of the 2nd Ammendment)'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/51leg/1r/bills/sb1403s.htm'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the UN small arms treaty is worded in such a way to deliberately blur meanings to give Obama the cover to introduce it, but would be illegal for the US government to sign into law if read in the way it was intended'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Let them come visit the ranch....I will show them how accurate our family Tank is.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'UN small arms treaty does not recognise the right of the people to own guns. The preamble written by the authors of the treatise believed that private ownership of guns 'threatens the legitimate power monopoly of government''
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'which is possibly the most bone-headed and treasonous statement in the history of the universe'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Yeah, but isnt the UN a joke allready? They arent even a paper tiger. They are a paper bunny.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're not a joke in the least'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but they could do with disbanding, we'd all be better off without them'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hah, we still will not pay our dues on time!'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I believe we still owe about $18 billion to the UN.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'everytime they do a boneheaded thing, we hold payment.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what about when you do a boneheaded thing?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'that is our right.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'perhaps if the rest of the world actually paid for the UN, we would think more of the UN.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nobody has any money'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the UN, like most of the countries in it are welfare cases that suck on the teets of the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'stop bombing and invading countries, then they might not need the teets of your humanist kindness'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'oh.. there IS a debate channel!'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'lies'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'this chan needs to have a spin-off called the troll chan'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol that could be the curse channel I suppose'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I didn't really know it was here till remmy pointed it out... the traitorous bugger!'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i got cursed off curse for spamming the other day'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'after i showed that the altar of jehovah-shalom was actually built on the altar of baal'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Rabshakeh, it's because you're a silly boy'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and jehovah's a sacrifice to baal'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Only problem with that was, that everyone else was having a different conversation at the time.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And again, I remember killing Baal on Diablo 2'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i know where el diablo lives, he's still around that old shapeshifter'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'no, it's because he's like the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be when it comes to professional spamming.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'here's a little question for you.  If Jeebus is god and he goes down to Hell to murder Satan, why does he waste time kicking Death's (what's left of the greek god Hades) ass along the way?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'a better question is how come people who see angels today are schizophrenic, but there's 3 billion believers in the world who agree with the diagnoses'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they say the meek shall inherit the Earth.  Says nothing about them being other things, too'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just after the verses in my desc, is where the priests of baal will be killed by the priests of jehovah, cause jehovah can't speak for himself like baal can't'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you should check it out, they probably don't teach it in bible school much'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that's the foundation of jesus christ's whole jehovah story , and referenced by islam and other religions along the way'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'none of these gods can speak for themselves, and even if they could or send angels to speak for them, the witness would be a schizophrenic'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'and yet, the believers believe in some kind of a time when seeing invisible people was sanctioned as a godly event, instead of a mental illness, which jesus cast out insane spirits of in the gospel'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'we weren't really made in God's image.  Not enough earth to hold all those elephants.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Oh I love reading Rabshakehs rants'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they're more valuable than dr.oz discussing the g-spot studies on polish volunteer cadaver's from florida'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/25/health/la-he-g-spot-20120425'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'anybody can be a butcher'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they're nice when they don't look like a list of metawords designed to catch web spiders'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the g-spot doesn't really exist, Rabshakeh.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i wonder if germany quit exporting it's elderly yet and how many volunteers for g-spot studies were involved'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'one time a jew pretending to be a nazi claimed they still have those furnaces going in poland'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'we have them all over the place in the US, we disguise them as mortuaries and package their use as cremation.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'if it weren't for religious ceremony, they'd probably operate like death factories.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'speaking of which, did you hear someone invented a Soylent formula?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yum'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'anyone here '
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'know if the rumours of assad getting assassinated'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'are true?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they seem to have their priorities straight at least, funding the rebels who lock down city streets in france for prayer ceremonies, conduct coordinated violent attacks across europe, chant death to the infidels behind british war memorials'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'call for decapitation of those who don't observe ramadan in oslo'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'etc etc, thailand, phillipeans all over'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'supporting the good guys they are'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'how come assad's not behind any of that'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i guess because he's a real enemy of theirs, festering threat who causes none of those things'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'bunch of dipshit nothing's who run europe'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'i wish i was alive back when real people ran nations'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'same here'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'then i'd have contributed to one'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'i dont care what anyone says JFK was the last real american president'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Well, you're alive now.  Might as well contribute.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Instead of sitting around, complaining.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'complaining about what syria danny's media portray's is likely fictional in itself'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'true enough noegel'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'that 'secret afghan warzone in england' youtube documentary is interesting though, those chunks of meat and stuff, sick stuff'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAi5HC9ArFE'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'people will bitch and complain until theyre blue in the face but when its time for action theyre to busy watching jerry springer'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'i think i seen that vid on abovetopsecret'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Exactly.  We live in a good country (you too, Canadian Rabshakeh).  While we sit here and play Aardwolf and complaining of the little things in our lives, other people in the world are actually dealing with real issues, like getting murdered by militias.  So, Rabshakeh, if the world makes you mad, go over to those places and change things up a bit.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'you think it's paradise in these country's, then how come you can't afford your rent or have a decent life or find a job or anything'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'thats easier said then done'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'it's sure paradise for the ogliarchs who fly their limousines to india at a million dollar tax-credit though'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'you wanna fund me to go over their and try im all for it'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'where in canada are you rab?'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Nope, I sure don't, but there is always a way... if you actually want to put your mind to it.  Thing is, most people don't.'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Even though they say they would.'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'watching a crappy disaster film made in 2012.....40 days and nights......5000 feet of rain falls over the whole planet.....where did it come from ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'a question of biblical proportions'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'And since there are forests and lakes above 5000 feet on the planet......the whole premise that 99.9% of the people and animals would die is wrong.'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so Cyprus went from one bad plan to an even worse plan'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how would people feel if the government just snaffled 40% of the money in their bank account?'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they'd probably stand around and protest like hippies and pray that god will see common sense'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i think if someone did that to me, i'd be torching the bank and taking prisoners'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'or else they'd bring otu the hammer and nails and decorate the trees'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'can ask the Cypriots about it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're all busy protesting'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the poor cypriots need not protest anymore, they got their deal.'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'you should ask that question from the hungarians, nuts'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'the govenment took their saving a while ago'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'when was that, and what were the circumstances?'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'jfgi'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm fortunate enough to be impoverished to be well below the savings guarantee line, but i'm mindful to spread my funds'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'cancer-detecting dogs, baffling'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'if they hump your legs, should you see a doctor?'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, no, they can detect some sort of decay product of cancer cells in urine samples. very accurate with prostate cancer'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Rand Paul is responsible for a 50 point swing in public opinion over drone strikes targetting american citizens'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'DHS have been video'd shipping out their tanks across the USA recently'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'are they gonna cull the herd down to 240 million by 2040 is too many?'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'which herd?'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'just a story i read on somebody's wiki, holdren iirc'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Eric Holder?'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'herd of human cattle, like the cows running from the barking dogs into the truck to happy meal land'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: '<-- FEMA zone 7'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren chief science advsiro, maoism 'great leap forward' , chinese communism works http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_R._Immelt'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/11/white-houses-business-adviser-says-chinas-state-run-communism-works/'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-21822684 put in gulag for saying the police didn't do their job as her 8 year old daughter was whored in a brothel, missing persons report'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'even the person hold ing the can of raid can get zapped in a nuclear incinerator'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'china only waxed 60-70 million people in it's great leap forward though, america has nothing to worry about hollow points and tanks in fema homosexual plexiglass house plays'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'expect massive casualties on both sides if they tried it there, americans have a far higher gun ownership rate than the chinese ever did'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'which i guess is good for the purpose'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'any kind of federal takeover of the states would be a great way of having your government toppled'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe the hollow points were part of the afghan exit strategy'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're not'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'as they show on aljazeera documentary afghan's practicing home invasions in training exercises'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I seen a sign that said "This spot reserved for energy-efficient vehicles".  Is there's something wrong with those people?'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I saw a funny picture of one of those "energy efficient" reserved spots with a pair of sneakers sitting in the middle of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that sort of thing needs nipping in the bud'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'since those 'energy-efficient' vehicles are not actually energy efficient'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'the only "reservable" spots in the USA are for handicapped... you can legally park in any other spot you want... if it'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'my donkey is energy efficient'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'donkies -are- energy efficient'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'if it's private property, you may get towed, but you can't be fined.\'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hybrids cause more pollution and co2 emissions than regular diesels'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'towed==fined if there's a release fee'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'well sure... but there's no criminal charges'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Steel giant Nucor is building a brand new factory in Louisiana to be closer to the large supplies of new natgas......it will provide about 2000 new jobs in the area, as well as another 5000 downstream supply jobs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Vancouver-based Methanex Corp. decided last year to spend $425 million to disassemble an idled methanol plant in Chile and move it lock, stock and pipeline to Louisiana.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the energy boom in the US is expanding.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Dow Chemical announced a $4 billion investment in facilities, part of some $15 billion in expansion plans announced by Gulf Coast chemical makers.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'With Chinas energy-hungry economy expected to continue to rely on imported oil, some analysts believe Beijing may soon begin swapping its huge pile of U.S. Treasury bonds for barrels of West Texas crude.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'except with north korea....theyare the ones assured of destruction....'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'what happend to amina , heard she "dissapeard"'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'she refused to pay the tp tax'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, one of my fav recipes, rice, lentils, reindeer sausage, salt, pepper, garlic, onions, chili powder, tomato sauce, and put on garlic bread....a diferent version of shit on the shingle.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'we should be working, and earning a living instead of playing this game'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'if we work, we run the risk of the government seizing our savings to help pay for stuff we don't need.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Work work'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Work pays for my mudding'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'sucks to be you.  I've got a government job that lets me play games like this all day long.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, a robotics company has created a new humanoid robot that can replace humans on the manufacturing line in factories....they sold out of the $22,000 robots for the next 6 months in only 1 week.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I have a government job too, but it doesn't let me sit down and play all day'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Can't blame them for replacing human workers... it sucks, but robots aren't lazy, don't require worker's comp, and work 24/7 without a complaint (besides blue screens of death)'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I hear the govt is going to replace most of the human BP agents with automated drones on the border.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'is that the bot that can learn/adapt to conditions on the assembly line so it's not just adding to the backlog when something went wrong?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Hehe I'm in the Border Patrol my job is toast nooo'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Still haven't heard about that, but we are getting a lot of aerial drones'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'robots do not need pension or retirement plans either.....they can be easily upgraded, and work forever if needed with just maintenance.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'seems to me we should be using the robots for picking fruit and veggies from trees and plants......'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'illegal immigration would drop like a rock. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'No it wouldn't they would just find jobs elsewhere'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'fruit trees and veggie plants are too saturated with robot-killers like fresh air and irrigation systems.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Illegal aliens are about as adapatable as robots lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol Hanslanda too ture'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'True'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'robots can be waterproof, duh :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'also, illegal aliens do not need retirement or pension plans and will work forever if needed.  As an added boon, no maintenance.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, I would rather have 18 robots building these homes, instead of illegals...you cant even find legal people to do the work around here anymore.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'for every job we put out, we get around 20 illegals for every 1 legal person who applies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'lots of bollocks in the news about gay marriage. Everyone keep an eye out for the bad news they wanted to bury'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Bill gates' $100 million database to track students grades, hobbies, and conduct'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'ND signs nation's strictest abortion laws'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Mcdonalds is testing a new robot in one of its stores to eventually replace cooks.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Not new'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'They have robots doing drinks and stuff now'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, they are called teens.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the uplift of the mountains and the continent in general shed off the midamerica sea.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'latest theory about DHS ammo purchases is to dry up the ammo market and deny ammo to the citizens'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'which sounds a bit more credible than other theories'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'which would only really work if the ammo-makers were the only ones able to make ammo.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they mostly are'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'If only, at least my department (CBP) is having ammo shortages ourselves'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tintin: 'has no one suggested fat fingers?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what's CBP?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Customs and Border Protection'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'just because nobody wants to make ammo doesn't mean they can't.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'there is lots of .22 caliber ammo out there, and shotgun shells...but everything else is having shortages.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not legally, hans, you need a license to make ammo'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'It's dumb.  We have ammo shortages, so they buy a lot and store the ammunition, but won't issue it because we're short.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well, it's certainly the case that something is going on'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Trust me, the government doesn't have the capabilities to do any large scale conspiracy theory we are just so unorganized'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Can't even change up the staplers at work without forms and more forms'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'legally we can't do a lot of things without some sort of license or proof of ownership, yet we do it anyways.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'all of the ammo companies are working 3 shifts per day now.....they will never make up for the current demand....so get used to paying higher prices for ammo until the current factories are expanded.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's what happens when a government gets too big, Noegel, it becomes like an out-of control self-feeding reaction'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Tell me about it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Our government is fully capable of operating efficiently.  They just need to cut the excess fat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tintin: 'Mostly they need incentives, I reckon'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But the excess fat departments are the departments that manage the cutting of "fat."'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yours has more fat than mine, and ours is pretty fatty'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'as long as the politicians are allowed to make the budgets, and not the experts....there will never be an efficient govt.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you don't even -need- half the federal departments because you have STATES to do those jobs'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Nobody wants to be the bad guy and cut jobs.  '
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they'll have to eventually'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the only question is how many people die before someone gets the balls to do it'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Or they could do it the nice way, stop hiring, and only hire one guy for every 10 retirements.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You dont need to cut jobs, many of them can be moved to the states.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Instead of the 1 for 1 they do now'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'They can't be moved to the states smoothly.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'well, quite honestly, everyone wants everyone but them to get cuts'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Get the feds out of making laws for business, and you get a better business industry.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Totally different setup.  It's like moving someone from Wal-mart to Target.  Different companies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the US has dropped from #1 in creating new businesses to #14 in 10 years.......'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tintin: 'well, not if you have business making laws for business, perhaps'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you don't really need any federal departments with the exception of the fbi (which should have the nsa rolled into it), armed forces, border agency, and IRS'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yay you included Border Patrol.  I am pleased.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the federal education dept is useless.....it is not needed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all the others could be replaced with purely administrative, data collection and target setting offices'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nogs, riz, that's a good example: just need a federal board to set exams, leave everything else to the states'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'There needs to be a way to make public education a competitive industry.  If a school sucks, I should be able to send my kid to another school equidistant away.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'If you want federal money, have a better school.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'feds shouldn't be involved in giving money to schools'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's not what the feds are for'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'If you leave education to the states, they will be even poorer than they already are'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Texas can afford it, but there are a lot of states that aren't self-sufficient'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then the people of the states should vote them out'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'all states can afford education, they just cant afford the federal mandates that are required of them to provide education.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'states did just fine teaching kids until the feds started getting into it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all states can afford education, period'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'for a given value of 'just fine', maybe'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'not saying it's gotten much better, but there are plenty of schools where kids were graduating essentially illiterate long before nclb and the rest of the federal mandates'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Education is waaay more expensive now that it ever was'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'i'll definitely agree on the jacked-up price though'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'We waste millions on each school because of federal design laws, and I am not talking about handicap ramps.....how many box schools have you seen in the last 50 years ?  School designs used to be efficient, and quick to build, and not very expensive.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I don't know where you live, but here in south texas schools are still built efficiently'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Big brick boxes with straight hallways and cross hallways every once in a while'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no they are not...they might be built ENERGY efficient, but not design efficient.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'The majority of expense comes from computer labs, modern projectors, and all that fanciness.  It all costs money.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The school district here just built 2 brand new schools near me...and they cost close to $15 million each....and they look like greek museums.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Other than that, you still have the corny single seat wooden desks they've been using for a century'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wouldn't be the design so much as teh forcing kids to wear RF tags that would worry me'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol well that is a waste'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I am going to move to a county in Texas with less population, and old schools.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and gigantic walmart/costco superstores?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I grew up in a town of 1200... they got a new school with funding lol.  It is efficient.  I haven't seen these fancy schools from up north though'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Houston just passed a large bond package to build, or replace 30 schools......something like $500 million.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And superstores are 15 minutes away lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I would prefer new schools be made concrete domes......super efficient, and strong.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and will last 500 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Have you seen some of the schools in Houston, my friend?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Many of them are falling apart, and don't follow building codes'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Some look like derelict buildings lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and in 5 years the new upgraded schools in those locations will look just the same as they do now....'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And 500million for 30 schools is a little over 16million, and considering how large houston schools are... not too bad'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'idiot kids.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Not if they make them like they make modern schools.  Brick and steel instead of plaster and plywood'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'They might look bad in 5 years, but they won't be dangerous'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'we have a school here in STL where all the interior walls are made of glass.  Don't really know how it turned out, but the thought process was that students would learn better if they could see each other.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'harris county sucks....moving back to montgomery county....:p'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not travis?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Harris County is pretty bad'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And horrible to drive in'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if I had my way....all buildings in SE texas would be domes.....could call it Dome City....'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol if I had my way everyone would live in skyscrapers to maximize use of land'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you won't get me in a skyscraper'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But this is america, dammit'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'or Coon City (Resident Evil guys might have trademark on Racoon City)'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Exactly'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'though i'll happily let everyone else live in a skyscraper so i can live undisturbed on the land'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Coon is a racial slur, it wouldn't work'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we tried that in the US, tenements didnt work because the police never went there to keep the crime down.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they have a lot of those in NYC'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'That's why we have robot supercops who eventually short out and take over the building and make us their slaaaaves'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Many parts of USA are adopting UN's agenda 21 policies which make for supposedly sustainable communities, but really means disposessing people of land so that corrupt government can profit from building tiny apartments in very large density to force people into'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'big buildings work in places like Tokyo, people love buying apartments.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol Rizgoth, google maps japan that island is almost 100% urbanized'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Tokyo is planning a skyscraper that can house 150,000 people, with gardens, businesses, etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'same thing been going on in the UK for decades, only crony capitalist building corps are given permission to build on green field land bought at agriculture rates, build high density housing, sell it in an articially inflated market, forces rents and purchase prices up'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Tokyo can shove it up their arse'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and in Hong Hong.  Some people love the idea of apartments so much they've even bought some made from recycled dog kennels.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'please be sending UK a nuke or two, we need to shed 2/3 of our population'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'which is actually pretty smart, since there's a dog shortage there...'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'dog is a good meat for ramen....'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'so is cat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Almost any meat is'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'those all pale in comparison to monkey'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'People just get all sad when they find out they are eating "companion" animals'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'USA isn't overpopulated, but would benefit at a societal level by letting California and NYC fall into the see'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the law banning horse meat from being produced in the US expired......'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why would you ban that?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it was one of those stupid laws the getnoworkdone congress did a few years back.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I would love to see California fall into the sea.  They are all moving here and ruining the Texan ideal'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the ban was instigated by the crazed PETA types who thought it was cruel to cull out the weak and retarded horses.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Congress is the opposite of Progress'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd heard that a lot, noegel'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that resulted in a glut of horses on the market, and lots of people just abandoned them when costs and time investments got too high.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'given all the bullshit that has been pulled, you guys in Texas should charge higher taxes for registered democrat voters'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'democrats should have a symbol sewn onto all their clothes so everyone knew who to tar and feather, shoot, run out of town, or round up in concentration camps.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Hear hear, lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'just a big sign with "traitor to the USA" on them would work'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'hey, that's a good idea.  Could even create a whole bunch of shovel-ready jobs by having them dig their own dieholes.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'shouldnt bury or cremate people....let em decompose in a building and use the gases produces to make stuff, and energy.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we are basically throwing away a vast resource.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'New Hampshire is a good state.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ooh, a 7 barrel shotgun.......46 caliber'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'That sounds cool'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, I want one now :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'cooler than an old swedish lady trying to recycle a live hand grenade?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'would that be 12ga?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I am unfamiliar with measuring shotguns in .cal'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'just shy of 1/2 inch... that's bigger than a 12ga'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's probably similar to miniguns.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it was created by the british navy 250 years ago.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, an illegal alien won the $336 million powerball.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'haha, turns out Obamacare's going to prevent a lot of people from getting health insurance.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'YOU DON'T SAY??'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Oops caps'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel beams with pride at her latest invention: a keyboard with spring-loaded needles in the caps button.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'lies'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'yeah, the tax credit for it is based on the individual costs (what it takes to keep you healthy) but doesn't factor in the family costs (spouse and children).  This means that the "affordable" plans are no longer actually regarded as affordable.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'should move to Germany....a years cost of healthcare is 1/3rd the cost of the same coverage in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'If you visit Germany or France, you are required to have health insurance, either from your home country, or you can buy health insurance at a pro rated cost in the country your visiting.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Our money has become worthless since the great deppression'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'fine, give me all your money then.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I will hold it for you, and you can work for cans of beans instead.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I need it to buy gold. Which will never be worth zero.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My money still buys fun things, I'm cool with it'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm just glad cars in the US are cheap'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Compared to the EU'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'gold is far too high to invest in now, guaranteed to lose money.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'buy silver.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'silver's the same way.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'silver is more useful, and the production is limited.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'most silver production is a byproduct of other mining.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'gold is more useful than silver, platinum is more useful than gold.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'actually no, silver is the most useful of the 3 precious metals.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and all three are highly-limited.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'gold is useful for jewelry and coins.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'actually no, for wiring delicate systems, platinum is the best.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'silver has over 6000 industrial uses now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'ask NASA what metal they used to wire the shuttles.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'almost all of the gold ever produced still exists, unlike silver....most silver is used in microscopic amounts in industry.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'all the silver ever produced still exists'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'isn't gold used for contacts?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'heh, wait until they start mining the asteroids, people won't be able to give their gold away :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'It just might be hard to find'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Caelestis: 'silver is, actually, a better conductor. it has a resitivity of 16 orsomething, and gold is around 23.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yes, Redryn. Platinum, gold, silver in that order are best for contacts.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I assume you mean electric contacts :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'yea'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'anything short of a nuclear reaction doesn't alter the amount of element xxx'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'not true, Caelestis.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'silver is used for the wires, gold (idk about plat) is used for contacts'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'silver is poor for electrical contacts'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'because silver tarnishes'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'platinum, gold, silver in order of conductitivty.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so it's OK for wires, bad for contacts'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'though copper is usually good enough :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'is there any jewels worth more than emeralds in the world?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'huh, platinum is more conductive than silver?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'diamonds, I suppose'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Magish: 'Aren't diamonds actually more common, but also in much higher demand / popular, or something?'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'diamonds just have restricted supply'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'diamonds are harder to get out.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that too :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Silver is a very ductile, malleable (slightly harder than gold), monovalent coinage metal, with a brilliant white metallic luster that can take a high degree of polish. It has the highest electrical conductivity of all metals, even higher than copper'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'they're not hard to put out, just that there's an artificial limit on supply'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'guards with guns make diamonds hard to get :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'not to mention the cavity searches :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'the problem is diamonds are expensive to mine'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'you gotta go very deep now'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'that's what she said'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'During World War II in the US, 13,540 tons were used in the electromagnets used for enriching uranium.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I would go in so deep and hard pounding those diamonds out of the ground.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'why?  You can make diamonds in like a month or less now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'the diamond industry is a joke, even the gem ratings are a scam'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'hanslanda -- only smallish ones'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'like most of us can afford anything bigger!'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'a little tip for non-math, non-fine print types... the GIA rating of a diamond is based on the AVERAGE angles and depths of the cuts.  But the brilliance, which is all anybody cares about, depends on a very tight variance'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'so if you want to be a serious purchaser, you have to buy a few with the ideal average angles/depths and then take a naked eye survey'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'and return the others'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'some friends and I were reminscing about mudding and somehow it came up that they both didnt really read room descriptions on various muds, and that caught me off guard.  Who here doesn't read room descriptions?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'most people don't'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Not at all, unless I'm doing a task or goal'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'nobody reads room descs they are just spam'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'That's part of the charm of it all.  Then again I LOVED zork'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'part of your charm, mate'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it is dark. you are eaten by a grue.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'a couple people like to read room descs, a couple people like to socialize.  most keep to themselves and quest and level'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'I remember having graphing paper out mapping '
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'use mushclient with Siri voice app and just tell it where you want to go'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'that sounds somewhat awesome'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'I'm trying to program it, not sure when it will be done'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I don't.  We had this newfangled thing called the internet, we just drew pictures there because even back then we secretly thought it'd be cool if games had graphics in them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'all i know is some fortran'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Hey! I'm only old enough to be a hip young uncle'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, arctic terns are evil birds.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'to everything, tern, tern, tern, there is a season'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Why so, young Rizgoth?  Impart your horrendous knowledge of Arctic Terns!!!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'They are the most aggressive of the northern birds....they dive bomb you, and drop bird shit on you if you sit still.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'when it comes to the arctic tern....I love shotguns.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I just avoid the arctic :P'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'arctic turns fly from the arctic to the antarctic every year.....44,000 miles a year.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I do flips and cartwheels 50,000 miles a year so'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'more like you trip over your flip flops as you chase after illegals on the border. :P'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'This is true'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'How did you know!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol Casey Anthony having another baby I don't know why I giggled'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Idom: 'i thought she was in prison'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I would knock her up, she is mega hot.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'She is it's a skit on comedy central oops'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I was confused'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'In the last 4 years, the obama feds have spent $12 billion on high speed rail...and we still dont have high speed rail anywhere in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: '12 billions is not gonna make a big difference.  Our country is simply massive'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'That $12 billion was actually spent on expanding Amtrak.....had nothing to do with high speed rail, even though all the commercials and speeches say high speed rail.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'slow speed rail :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Heck just the continental US is about as big as all of europe'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You can't use trains, then the communists, I mean terrorists, win.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, Europe has a damn fine rail system.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You can go from london to belgrade on the rail system.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I bet if they had an extra $3 billion a year, they would have built up more high speed rail.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yeah, but you can't convince most Americans to use mass transit at least out here.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Amtrak ridership on the slow speed rail is at record highs on the east and west coasts....THAT is where we need to build up high speed rail.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'not from St louis to Dallas.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Rode Amtrak once.  Horrible experience... but then again that was a "long distance"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Yet most of that $12 billion was spent in the middle america, except for Seattle to Portland, apparently they received $800 million to upgrade their lines.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Most people won't take a long distance train ride in europe either. It's expensive, and slow.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Not to mention the hazzle of trying to buy an international train ride. Good luck with that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Europass must be cheap for americans only then.....2 weeks out, I could order a london to paris rail ticket for $32, 1st class seat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'That's not very long distance, though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'about the same price as a houston to tulsa oklahoma bus ride.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'But try e.g. a train ride from berlin to madrid, compared with a flight the same distance.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'eParis to Londonn is 280 miles... not far at all'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'By highway'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, a british kid started a company at age 15, and now at 17, sold it to yahoo for $2.8 million.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Good for him'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he also now works for yahoo UK, to create more apps.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Definitely not set for life, but good college fund'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Optimus Cosmi: 'i heard on NPR it was 30 mil'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'who can tell, I dont know who to trust on these stupid ereports.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I miss the age when reporters lied to us on print.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'perhaps they meant 28 million, and not 2.8m, shrug'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, your own first class suite on all nippon airlines from tokyo to london, $27,000'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Not bad if you money is of no issue,  Don't have to share a cabin with the less fortunate lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the same flight, but business class is $9,000'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Must be a nice flight.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Sometimes, you just have to splurge and do nice things for yourself.  It's healthy (as long as you don't spend all your money)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'one of those brand new 787 dreamliners.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Niiice'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the nice thing though...everything is included...no nickel and diming you for the business class seats'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no extra fuel charges, airport fees, food, booze, entertainment, etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But the most important part... do they have SkyMall??'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'all airlines I have been on have skymall magazine.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or a digital version.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the show takes place 15 years AFTER the power turned off.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I miss Rabshakeh and his rants.  This channel is too quiet now'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm sure you got something Rizgoth'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Dang'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Ever watch The Client List ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I have not'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'How about Revolution ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Nope, I think you told me about it earlier'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'What on earth have you done in the last couple hours ?!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Watching cable kind of and cleaning, polishing my boots, ironing'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I hate that we have to polish our boots if they are just going to get messed up in the brush the next day'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'use armorall'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'LOL'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I use KIWI parade gloss, a heat gun, then cottonball and warm water'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'One coat a day keeps it mirror'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Who wants to invest in my seaweed farm ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Tell me your business strategy'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'grow seaweed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And what makes your seaweed business more profitable than the other seaweed producers in the industry?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Because it will float around the ocean between Hawaii and California, robots will manage it, with 2 people on location.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And who will maintain the robots?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the 2 people on location.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And clean and cook and do everything else?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'exactly.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'What if there is a medical emergency?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'It sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'In this case, since I am the government, I will invest only $45 billion in your business.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The same way floating oil wells offshore do it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'They have more than two people.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And a doctor'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'one of the 2 will be a medic.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'so isn't brazil's prime minister jewish, doesn't jew rabbi marx invent maoism which khmer rouge'd the vietnam war, doesn't jewish ceo's discuss google apparatus with north korea yodok communism, doesn't a jew run the american federal reserve, and isn't maoism china and jewish brazil making some currency deals, with a alleged remark by soros that he hates america, which is on life support, after unifying hungary'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Though, you could hire an Ethiopian doctor'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'RABS back!!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or a cuban.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'those amazing minorities, always disassociated from every world war in the last 200 years'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You don't need to feed the Ethiopian'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Only seeweed'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and cubans like floating around on boats :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'look no further than ezra 9:9, and the verses in my description to the unknown statue that saint peter named for greece'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Rabshakeh, do you have dreams while you sleep, wake up and have to post them on debate on Aardwolf in the middle of the night?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'dreams and reality are interesting subjects, or am i the subject of both'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'between the time the Soviets left Afghanistan and The US invaded Iraq in 1990. Cuban soldiers where the only ones in the world with actual combat experience.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Subject of both, more than likely'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Seaweed is a growing business.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'seaweed extract and chemicals are added to lots of things.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You should figure out how to genetically alter crops to live off of seawater so we can have hydroponic farms in the ocean'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'protein from seaweed will fortify lots of foods in time.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You dont need to make them use saltwater, you can convert saltwater into fresh on the ocean itself.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Meanwhile, I will genetically alter golden retrievers to carry humans super fast across the country for ultimate green transportation.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But I want my own floating farm :/'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a bigmac with seaweed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Big macs look sooo nasty'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Not even remotely like the pics'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Big mac advertisements are a bigger joke than our current governmenty'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'they don't even run a shipping company that doesn't mistranslate uzbek to russian smuggling'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'seaweed in your ice cream'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'at least they're not shipping murder victim's flesh and bones to florida for transplants'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'seaweed in soups'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'That's because they are shipping them to me for my golden retriever experiments!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'oh well, says there that the altar of jehovah is located on top of the altar of baal, so an older god might just burn up all of their plans one day'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Dangit, Rabshakeh, Baal is already dead as of Diablo II, I don't know how many times I need to tell you that'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'He tried coming back once, and it didn't work out.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Rabshakeh, if you got to meet Obama, what would you say?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'nothing'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'maybe hello'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Man that was a lot less interesting than I hoped.  But your honesty is awesome'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'make sure you do a cavity search first...'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Ewwww'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: '2 are located in russia, i had a geometric map of the others'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Whaaaat are you talking about rabshakeh I wish I had cavities that were transcontinental'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'like that woman with the cocaine in her tits on the news a few months ago?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'older god? that's an interesting notion :) It implies that gods are born :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'seaweed is going to be a billion dollar business in the future....'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I find cocaine on girls breasts all the time.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'bill gates is investing in it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'homage to the unknown , to homage to the known'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'They just assume it's going to be a male agent, and when they see me, their faces drop so hard lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rabshakeh: 'says in the book of genesis that marriage is nothing but a human tradition as well, so what's the difference who's altar you're on'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, that's the fly in the ointment, so to speak. Either the Virgin Mary wasn't a virgin or Jesus was female.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'Jesse Christ.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Jessica L('
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'jehova means donkey in the language of donkey.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Where did you learn donkey'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'from a donkey.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rizgoth is acting like a donkey in the room.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel  leaps upon her Golden Retriever, and attacks the donkeys of the land!  Huzzah!
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rizgoth reins his wardonkey next to a dog and salutes him with his lance.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Rizgoth, be one of my hivelings, and together, we will dominate the seaweed industry!  And then... the world!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Fine'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The chinese gave me the money. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'We are going to rule the world with seaweed together.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I offered to join you :'('
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And you ignored me.  It's because I'm a woman!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And multi-racial'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And awesome'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and Californian!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But I'm not californian'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I live in Texas.... raised, not born'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'one of those 'gun states''
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yessir'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'The state where it is now legal to hunt with suppressors lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Republic of Texas will own all the seaweed!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'Republic of Texas.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rainer Daybreak laffs.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol while Texas could support itself as a country, I just have a feeling the United States wouldn't have any of that.  American military would make sure of that'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Then I would have to move to Oklahoma or Louisiana for my job ew'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Nah, you would work for the Republic of Texas!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'We all know Texas HAS the legal right to....but it's never going to happen. Too much military.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol, no I'm employed by the U.S. Government, not Texas'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel nods at Rainer Daybreak.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Texas has its own military.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'The Mexican cartels would just move right in without Customs and Border Patrol on the border'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'We do?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'Are you comparing a militia or guard to the US military?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Nod, look it up.....Texas is the only state in the union with its own military.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'Is it a minuteman thing?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Um, I live in Texas'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it goes back to when Texas, was called the Republic of Texas and its own country.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'There's no military'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The Texas Rangers is an offshoot of the Texas Military.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'The Texas Rangers aren't as badass as you think.  They were scared to jump onto trains when we were training them on train inspections'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'That is because they were smart emough to let the feds get themselves killed first.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And hillbillies with guns might have been an effective fighting force before WW1, but now the US military has these things called bombers and jets and tanks'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'And light-bending suits.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol it's not very dangerous to jump on a train if you are trained properly.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rainer Daybreak points at the Invisible Soldier video on youtube.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My first apprehension was on a moving train.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Remember the Alamo!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rainer Daybreak goes, "Omfg".
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Some badass mofos at the alamo.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'This Ferien would like to point out those new remote control drone fighters.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the only reason The Republic of Texas joined the US was because the US promised to pay off our war debts, and because mexico was about to invade Texas, and we would have been slaughtered. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Shhh Ferien, we all know the government doesn't use those *rolls eyes*'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'not in mass production, this Ferien does not thing, but they exist. And this Ferien thinks they are bad ass.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'Are there other, 'feriens'?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel opens his cage of captured Feriens and Golden  Retrievers.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol her cage lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol her cage lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I am now a man'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I knew it!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'that is a debatable question, but this Ferien is unique among any other possible Feriens.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'manmanmanmanman!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Maybe it is too late to go running lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'How about 'El Ferien'?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'El Ferien del loco'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'this Ferien is not at all spanish, good people.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Most of the southern states will join Texas, to form the United Republics of Texas......:p'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Das Ferien'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'I live in KY. Cold day, buddy.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'We don't need other states!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'nor is this Ferien german.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I ain't your buddy, pal'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel winks at Ferien.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'as will north dakota, montana, wyoming, and the rest of the oil and gasproducing states......*peer*'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yay, it's about damn time'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'We've got so much oil, it's ridiculous'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'At least, enough to last a few days'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'more than a few days, since we wont have all those liberals around!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel cheers and sings... she is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rainer Daybreak pets Rizgoth.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But all those Californians are moving here, Rizgoth'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'So simple :('
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I had one tell me my car was breaking noise laws and he could report me for it'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'So I punched him in his nuts (in my mind)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'stick an ice pick in his tire.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Nah, I just dirtied the environment with an audible launch'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm so immature :/'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'We have chuck norris...that is all we need.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'I do love a good Chuck joke.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Chuck Norris is too old, imho'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'this Ferien would have just told that californian to go ahead and try, and this Ferien would laugh at the failure.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol well, my agency is well-liked by the local police and sheriff'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'chuck is 5 feet 4 inches tall.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Since they are so few, we help them with a lot of the more serious crimes'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Rizgoth is 4'11"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'couldnt pay me enough to live on the border with mexico.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'How old are you guys?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'There's a lot of pay incentives on top of base salary, so I'm not complaining'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: '24'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'This Ferien is a quarter of a century old.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: '28.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Rizgoth is 12'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '67'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Wow really'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I was gonna say... coolest grandpa ever'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'more like coolest dad.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'If I lived in Mexico I would be coolest mom'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'This Ferien wishes he had had a cool dad.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I can be your coolest mom and dad Ferien'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'heee!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel ruffles Ferien's hair playfully.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'and....? uh oh.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel tosses a football to Ferien!
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel bakes some brownies for Ferien.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'transvestite ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Sorry, Ferien.  This is way too much work.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'Downstairs mix-up?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rainer Daybreak: 'Ol Greg...is that you?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm an amoeba'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ferien throws the ball back, and eats the brownies, and lets out a contented sigh
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I reproduce asexually'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I party in people's intestines when they drink standing water or eat Wendy's chili.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'wendys makes good chili.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it wins the chili contest in NYC !'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I know, it's fantastic.  But I had a bad bowl once...'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rainer Daybreak misses the 'v' and wabes.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Are you serious?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'NYC chili is so bad, anything would win !'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I had a 'bad bowl' once... but it wasn't chili'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'CBP has a big chili cookoff down here with a bunch of local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies for charity.  It makes Wendy's chili taste like poop'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'It's awesome, because I get paid to attend in dress uniform lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Waste of government money, I know, but think of the children'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You should try my grandpa's weed chili....mmmmm'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'They should definitely legalize marijuana.  It would really put a hurt on the cartels source of income.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'they dont make money from hard drugs, it is mainly marijuana now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'much money that is'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yup'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Alaska is going to allow up to 1 oz of weed for personal use again...now that washington and colorado passed their laws.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'This Ferien prefers to have a clear mind. No fuzziness or hallucinations for THIS Ferien.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I don't do drugs myself, Ferien.  I'm a good mom and dad'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel ruffles Ferien's hair playfully.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'weed is not a drug.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it is a weed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Weed alters your bodys function.  It is a drug, just like alcohol.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'aspirin comes from tree bark.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And aspirin is a drug.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mushrooms'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'Poison Oak is a weed, but you won't catch THIS Ferien smoking it!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'xmas berries.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'A substance that has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.  Definition'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'smoking anything is bad for you.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'you need to eat weed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Smoking golden retrievers is also bad'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Wait, what'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'Smoking ham...'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Smoking bleach'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'Mmmm-mm.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'There is a berry in Alaska, it is called a watermelon berry.....it looks like a tiny little watermelon.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it affects you like lsd.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and not illegal.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Will be soon then'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Just like that artificial weed they had for a while'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, been around for 8000 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Just wait until some kid dies using it.  Someone always messed it up for everybody'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I have only ever seen the plant growing in Alaska....never anywhere else.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I grow them in my secret lab'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Which happens to be under your seaweed boat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'my seaweed boat is 5 acres in size.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel has been accepted into the Evil League of Evil!
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'That's one big boat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, we live in pontoons, like in Waterworld.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'one of the pontoons is a secret mini watermelon berry patch.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Can I live there?  I can keep all of the Cubans off your boat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I installed that pontoon...'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'doing to flood the west coast with dried mini watermelon berries.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'This Ferien barely remembers Waterworld. Interesting movie.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'everyone in cali will be so high from the watermelon berries, they wont want to move to Texas....'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we win.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Maybe while they are high, we can detonate bombs in the San Andreas fault, sending them off into the sea, never again to be part of the contiguous U.S. again!!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'only after we use the watermelon berry profits to buy up the desert land, so that it becomes beach front when the western part of the state falls into the ocean.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I like the way you think.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'We're gonna be rich!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, and new cities called Los Donkies, and San Donkies, etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I want one named Eternal Pink Cheeze'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the governors mansion will be called Casa Del Donkie'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'A place where everyone can have at least an acre of land with dirt barriers so they can shoot all the guns they want'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'better that everyone have 100-500 square miles so they can shot WITHOUT the dirt barriers'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Even better'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I need to get a beater truck.  My car doesn't have room for my rifle lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Oh dear I'm gonna turn into a hick'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Oh well'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I have 20 acres which includes a valley full of trees, so I'm covered'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'When I retire, I'm definitely moving out to the country.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'my pot farm is surrounded by an 8 foot concrete wall.....and no neighbors.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Better watch out for the drooooones'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, it is all indoors.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel begins to play eerie government music.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Droooones... with xrays!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'not'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'what's to keep the electric company from ratting you out'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Cancer from the skies!  No one is safe!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'generators'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'otherwise it wouldnt have taken the US army 12 years to find osama bin laden.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'why would the power company rat anyone out?  They want you to use electricity.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I dont steal it, I pay for it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And the meter readers could care less'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'besides, it is a digital meter that uses wifi.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel giggles.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'also, nowadays you can get state of the art LED grow lights, they last forever, and produce very little waste heat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I don't want to go running argh'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'you'll get fatter if you don't'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'running is bad for your knees.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we are not africans running from lions anymore.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'and being fat isn't so bad these days.. modern medicine and all'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, you can ride a bike'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or go swimming'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol well I have to run through brush for a living so, I think I need to stay in shape'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'There are old guys are work who have fine knees.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'my doctor tells me I need to be in shape.... I tell him "round" IS a shape'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And besides, everything on this cursed planet is bad for you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel laughs at Vonliege mercilessly.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'especially bullets from mexican bandits.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'the more fat you have, the better the chance that a bullet won't hit anything vital.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Are you a mexican bandito Rizgoth'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Not if it's an AK47 round that the cartels use.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, I shoot them when they come on our land.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You're a good american Rizgoth'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel shakes Rizgoth's hand.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'dont be saying that....I will shoot american evil doers who come on my land also.....:p'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I wonder if pot growers will be elidgable for 'farm subsidies' when it becomes legal in more states.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'in Texas it is legal to shoot evil doers who trespass.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: ''make my day''
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I don't mind if you shoot evil doers'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'just be sure to drag the carcass onto your land'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a few weeks ago someone blew away two home invaders......woohoo!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'score one for homeowners!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Good.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I had a couple of hooligans break into my house once.  I racked a shell in my remington, and the sound of the shottie scared them off.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I want one of those 7 barrel shotguns the brits made.......'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I have that sound on my iphone for that very purpose'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: '7 barrel shotgun lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'real fun to play it in a crowded movie theater'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, 7 .46 caliber shotgun barrels :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the gun shoots them all at the same time....the british navy used them during ship to ship battles 250 years ago'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Recoil?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'two guys would sit in the crows nest, and when the british ship was about to board the enemy ship...the guys in the crows nest would fire the 7 barrel shotguns onto the deck and kill 14 enemies at one time'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'just when the brits would rush the ship'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'The gun was invented by James Wilson in 1779 and manufactured by Henry Nock for use through the Napoleonic Wars.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I slept with Napolean in my previous life'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I want one.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I WAS napolean... don't expect any palimony'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Damn'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You were mediocre anyway, I just liked your sweet outfit'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'you were kinda loose, if I recall... but then, I had SO many women during that life'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he was 3 feet tall.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'his sword was taller then he was.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'He was 5'7"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lowest historical reports were 5'5"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But sexxxy'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Man I'm tired'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'This Ferien is tired as well.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Let me tuck you in, son'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'heee'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel tucks Ferien in with a kiss on the cheek.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ferien sighs contentedly, curls up into a ball, and falls asleep.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Aww'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I would love to be on the island in the show Lost.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yeah!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'All right, I'm going to go run for an hour and destroy my knees and my American spirit'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Thanks for keeping the night interesting with weed and seaweed boats and donkey villages'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and chase illegal aliens'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ferien shifts in his sleep, his hand making a waving motion as he smiles.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol I hope not it's my vacation'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel pets Ferien.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'AFK activate!!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '50 inmates on hungerstrike in Guantenemo, no obvious mention of it on western news that I can see'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'earthworms are now being blamed for global warming'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'err, how?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they can't be farting that much...'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/feb/05/how-worms-accelerating-climate-change?CMP=twt_gu'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the current higher-than-historically-normal percentage of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere was caused by man and not nature'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'earthworms!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'scientists said so, therefore it must be true'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'there are aprox 1.4 billion cows on the planet right now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'better kill them all for the earth'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and only about 20 million donkies :('
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the cows are China, and the donkies are the british.....:p'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ok, perhaps the canadians.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'disrespecting british donkies now?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'poor british donkies :('
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'dispicable'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how would you feel if the government came along and swiped 40-100% of your bank deposit?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they already are.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Since my deposits are in Texas banks, it wouldnt matter.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the 1.4 billion cows are a result of human farming -- the number of cars trucks and motor vehicles etecetera used by humans likely produces more carbon emissions than cows'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why wouldn't it matter, riz?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'we started the whole too-big-to-fail craze.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Because in Texas, we also have our own backup system.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snaebjorn: 'what does texas banks matter?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'We would leave the union, and restore Texas citizens bank accts based on the new Texas Dollar.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'CONFISCATED the money, not just shut the computers down'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you wouldn't, you're too busy a state to do that'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Texas has backup plans for that thing.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's why you've got police chiefs going to DC like pussies with tails between their legs going along with all of the gun controls'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Continuity of Texas Banking is what it is caled.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'which countries so far did that "confiscation": Yugoslavia (100% - the money disappeared), ...'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'USA, Hungary, Germany, Cyprus, Russia'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'probably more, those are the ones i know of'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so because the rich don't want to pay taxes, some governments are going to be confiscating bank deposits ?!?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'isn't italy on that list, too?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nothing to do with the rich not paying tax, it's globalist bankers deliberately fucking up the banking system in order to capture even more wealth from the general public'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the banks aren't being bailed out because the government didn't receive tax'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'bah, poor people in the US do not even pay income tax.....because of that earned income tax credit....need to do away with that!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'protect the 1% !'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'define poor people, Riz.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the 1% don't need your help'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'anyone under $100k per year. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ok, $50k....'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'lots of people under $50k per year pay a whole lot of income taxes.  At least half of those are considered poor.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Bad accountants then....when I was making less then 50k, I never paid tax.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'There are thousands of deductions and tax credits out there if you actually look and not let HR block do your damn taxes.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you were scamming the system, then.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'do away with all deductions and credits'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then reset the rates accordingly'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'all perfectly legal.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'those idiots at tax prepare services have about 2 weeks of training.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'besides, they are in the tax loan business, not the tax return prepare business.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'let's establish a fact of life in America... All men are created equal, correct?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nope'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that was the intent, but it hasn't worked out like th at'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'as pertains to america... '
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it never happened, except on day 1'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'says so in the constitution... can we agree on that?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Day 1 of the Constitution maintained the concept that black people were property.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'woo, Texas oil production has increased by 35% in 2012.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '3/4 of a person I believe.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'where does the constitution say taht?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'it was common law of the day... but true all the same'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'They used whiteout to remove it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it doesn't, but it wasn't until 120 or so years later that it was challenged.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'alterenate interpretation: Texans are squandering their oil reserves by an extra 35% in 2012'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no no no, don't go saying something is in the constitution when it isn't, then claim it's common law'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I didn't say it was written in the Constitution, you should pay better attention.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'different people talking.. I said "all men are created equal"...'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Texas doesnt need to squander it, we have more oil then God does.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you said it maintained the concept. it did not'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'north dakota oil production was up 150% in 2012.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'ok.. for the sake of debate... can we agree that in america today, all men are considered equal?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, we cannot'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'black people aren't men.  The founding fathers were astute enough to realize they dared not try pushing on this point, so they "backdoored" the means to change the documentation through amendments.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'how can we have a proper debate if we can't even agree on the most basic point that "all men are created equal"?  I didn't say TREATED equally, or that they were all equally SMART... '
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you didn't say created equal...you said considered equal'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'assume then that you said that "it was wished that in america that all men were created equal"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the Constitution also doesn't say anything about the separation of Church and State.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Hanslanda speaks "USAmerican", where the speaker reserves the right er wrongness to deny meaning what the words used by the speaker (actually) said'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'ok.. I retract EVERYTHING typed prior... can we agree that in america, "all men are SUPPOSED to be created equal?"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes :-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'but it does say I can have a tank in my front yard.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'no.  Racism.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'ok.. so based on the premis that all men are created equal, we should each pay an equal amount of tax... say $10,000, or what ever is needed'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a big tank no less.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brujah: 'women are exempt from tax?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'this isn't a debate channel... it's a bitching channel'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'but not an invisible one.  Conceal and carry permits probably aren't intended to cover tanks'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'booo :('
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'an invisible tank would rock.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'so...you're going to tax someone who made $10k last year at 100% but the guy who pulled in $100k will only take a 10% hit?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'what happened to your all men created equal stuff?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'and by extrapolation of the Vonliege troll: "ensure that all men are paid the same wage salary bonuses and benefits so they may pay that same tax"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, vonliege, men should be based upon the work that they do'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Just raise the standard deduction to $15,000 per person, and you fix a lot of the problems, and get rid of all the other deductions.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I don't see how I was trolling.. I was trying to debate.  whatever'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and don't listen to rizgoth when it comes to tax policy ;-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'That is because I am 100% correct.....*peers*'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'it's the same tactic when arguing in person... as soon as you can say "you need to calm down", you win the argument by default.  apparently, as soon as you can call someone here a troll, you win by default.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'when the troll is obviously trolling, the troll does not win'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if it were me, as i said, scrap all credits and deductions, then just band your income tax sensibly, but take some from everyone'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd probably go 10% from $0 - $50k, 20% from $50-$250k, and 30% for $250k+'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'ans then pay the poor an income supplement'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'so they will remain poor?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'at least they won't starve'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'who will remain poor?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if the poor are not given an income supplement, the poor stay poorer and starve'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'nobody will starve in a country where you can spend your food stamps at KFC'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's mostly nonsense'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'KFC is a rippoff -- KFC food is too expensive'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'go down to any fast food place... they almost ALL take EBT cards'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'buy the $1 menu stuff.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'poor people starving is not caused be, nor will be solved by the tax system'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you usually get enough in food stamps that it doesn't matter how expensive stuff is'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brujah: 'pink slime? I'd buy that for a dollar!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'actually not really, not anymore.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'at least not in Texas.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you get crap for cash but lots of food stamps'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'pink slime.. .blah!!! that's a whole debate in itself!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'GMO pink slime ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'in Texas you are limited to 3 months of food stamps without a job....and 2 years in your lifetime with a job.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'what's wrong with mystery meat?  You ate it all through school...'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'likely... but I didn't KNOW about it.  there's that whole phycology thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'IT'S GOOD FOR YOU!!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'probobly... but so is algee'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some algae, not all algae'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'algae patties are good.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'but a ribeye steak grown in a lab is better.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'prefer real meat from organic animals'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's even better from a printer, Riz'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'lab meat is currently $20,000 a lb, so dont hold your breath looking for it in your neighborhood store anytime soon.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'don't need an organic animal to make a steak.  Just grow the cells in a dish.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'that is lab meat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'eventually, everyone will have a ron popeill biomeat machine.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a picasso painting selling for $155 million....should burn them all.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'can't.  It's got lead paint.  Bad for the environment.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brujah: 'make your own, sell it for $155 million in 100 years'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ooh, there is a zinc shortage in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'kinda why lithium-ion was born'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the largest zinc mine in the US is in Alaska.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the world's also suffering from a silicon "shortage"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'famous paintings permit some of the wealth to be redistributed among the rich'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'turns out the silicon molecule is just too big for our purposes now'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'replicate it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'build a machine to replicate things.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'silicon is a common element -- glass is a silicon compound'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'doesn't do us any good if we can't build anything with it'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'silicon pure enough for electronics is another aff'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'replicators would destroy the precious metals and gems industries.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they were actually worried we'd lose the internet because evolution of parts manufacture changed too much go go back to larger crap.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'when they come to their physical senses and realise that digital music is crap, they may return to analog music, unless you believe that one short song per dvd is likely to be popular -- and as for a full album, maybe a stack of dvds'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'digial video is able to look good though, but some of those digital screens are painful to watch - artificial and disconcerting -- the braindead likely don't mind -- what is braindead is clueless'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'digital music is fine, the human ear isnt that sensitive.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'how anybody is able to pay to see a movie umpteen times is ... '
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's like paying for a concert'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'after seeing a movie twice, the flaws in the movie become more obvious, and further immediate viewing may become painful - flawless movies are rare'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some humans in the 99th percenile are wih extroardinary ears -- 8 billion divided by 100 is: 80 million humans able to disagree with the lie that "the human ear isnt that sensitive"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'percentile, with'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): GraySong Gregor is going percenile.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'those audiophiles that used to pay 80$ for an imported audiophile vinyl record nornmally going for 10$ are likely in "digital hell" when listening to the digital crap that goes for music these days'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'digital music sounds good to me, not scratchy like vinyl.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'are you talking about music in general or bitrate of digital music on CD?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'CD music is bad, but mp3 music is extremely "painful" mentally'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'why?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the macarena!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Gregor, you talk as though you were born after digital music replaced analog music'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'Zade, just trying to establish what you are talking about'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'are you talking about the quality of mp3s or the style of music, I have no clue.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'difficult to explain color to somebody that is color-blind'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'difficult to explain sight to somebody that is blind since birth'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'Ok, you like the crackly sound of vinyl. Great.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'difficult to explain analog music to somebody that is only heard digital music since birth'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I prefer 8-track......'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'I get why you can't explain it now. You basically have sentimental attachment to anlog music but nothing to base that sentiment on.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'I guess you are saying you are one of the select few with "special" ears. I think most of us already know you are special Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade retorts: Gregor likes the "tinny bitrate of digital music with the (missing and) intermittent background detail"
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'I understand Zade, but theoretically it should be possible to increase the birate to a level where even your ears cannot distinguish between digital and analog.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there's a big difference between live music and recorded music ;-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'if your argument is that the bitrate on an average cd is too low for you personally, maybe you have a valid point.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'but I don't think that has to be an inherent property of digital music.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'a digital bit rate of 1 million per second may or may not approach that of decent analog - unsure'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'as said above: "a short song per dvd"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'theoretically it would never approach analog. We only need it to reproach analog with respect to the human ear. It shouldn't need to be anywhere near that high.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'I'm not convinced it's low bitrate that necessarily causes the tinny sound to which you refer either. It could simply be bad manipulation of frequencies. Maybe your eyes can discern higher frequencies than most.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'a frequency that is omitted entirely in most vinyl recordings'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'it might not be anything at all to do with the fact that a recording is specifically analog as opposed to digital'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Gregor, some of your assumptions are grossly wrong as to what the human ears are able to discern from a room full of sounds'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'I do not see how so Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'but I do know increased volume in the upper frequencies can give music a tinny sound.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'in a room of many many sounds, a human is able to filter out extraneous sounds, to focus on and follow a particular sound in the background across the room'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'don't dispute that at all, what's your point?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'this ability is faily common among humans'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'dvd sound still sounds great.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '(say) ten humans, each focussing on a separate sound on the opposite side of the same room, are each able follow the sound thay are focussing upon -- record the whole room onto a stereo analog and onto a stereo digital (CD bit rate)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'play back the analog tape, and each of the ten humans shall be able to focus upom and discern the sound that they were previously listening to in full detail'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'play back the digital recording, and each of the humans shall likely report that the sound they were focussing upon is intermittent and missing detail'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'conclusion: digital is unable to do the job that analog does (recording and replaying detail)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'with a low quality bitrate, mayhaps. Do you have any empirical evidence to support your assumptions when involving a high digital bitrate?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'also across a range of frequencies?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'whether a bit rate of 1 million per second is able to do the job, maybe, maybe not -- what if thewre were twenty separate distinct sounds in that room - digital likely can't do the job even at 1 million samples per second'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'another query is: what is the actual bit rate of high quality analog recorded music'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'likely extremely high, unsure how high'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'uhm, why not infinite?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the number of magnetic atoms passed over per second by an analog recording head onto a clean magnetic tape is finite'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'hehe ok, so isn't true analog a myth? ^^'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so while the effective "bit rate" may be high, not infinite'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'until 1985, analog music was not a myth'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'it was analog in name, sure'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'analog was and is analog -- and iw far suprior to current digital'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'analog was and is analog -- and analog is yet far superior to current digital'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'but if "analog" is essentially limited by number of atoms passed over per second...isn't it essentially digital when you break it down'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'but whether decent analog equipment is yet being manufactured ...'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'i.e the signal is not continuous in truth, if there is a finite number of atoms. It is in essence still a series of 1's and 0's.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'pragmatic analog is not pragmatic digital  (and you Gregor are trolling)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'not trolling as it happens'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'anyway, gtg, nice talking'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"practical" analog music is superior to current digital music'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GraySong Gregor: 'current yes, and the bitrate on standard cds is too low. Agreed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'agoin the query: "what is the *actual-bit-rate* of high quality analog recorded music"'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'agoin the query: "what is the *actual-bit-rate* of high quality analog recorded music"n'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'answer that, and that "bit rate" is when digital shall reach analog (and maybe without the background noise)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'btw, (some) digital manufacturers know that digital music is an inferior sound to analog music (but they want you "marks" to pay for the digital technology required to reach the detail of analog) '
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'whether that is possible depends on what the *effective* bit rate of decent analog is  (and by 1985, analog tecnnology was *extremely* highly developed at the commercial recording end, and even as sold to consumers)'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'ballpark, 10 million samples per second shall likely do a decent digital job -- 7 seconds of music per CD'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'whats going on with the defence of marriage act?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wish governments would fuck off and stop trying to define or legislate marriage'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, marriage is for donkies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'any government legislation that references couples should refer to "life partner" instead'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'marriage is the human concept of the official recognition of the union between two humans of the opposite gender'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'to those that are religious, marriage is a holy union between two humans of the opposite gender'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shikai: 'Unfortunately, even though I'm gay, I have to agree with Zade. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Civil unions, however, should be implemented with the same secular rights for gay people'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the evolutionary enhanced psychic link between a male and a female joined in a sexual marriage relationsip is far stronger than the psychic link between two of the same gender'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'dafuq are you talking about?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm not disputing either of those opinions, which is why i think government should stay out of it'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'xchan, that information is classified '
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'woo, Alaska produced 1 million ounces of gold in 2012....a feat that hadnt happened since 1899 and 1906.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'there's gold in them thar floes!'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: '5% of people consume 49% of the healthcare resources'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'so if we take out this 5% of ppl we should be good to go then?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'we'd be in a better position, yes.  "Good to go" is probably too strong a phrase yet.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'well we are talking about 'offing' people so i think 'good to go' is ok'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'who is poorer cypurs or haiti'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'its relative'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'haiti.  They're the only culture that naturally lives without money.  Cypriots are allowed to make money first before the government takes it all.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'there are quite a few tribes in central and souther africa that don't use money'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'did LL Cool J get elected president of haiti?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not Guilty Kojiro: 'biff do they use women's bodies as currency?'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'id have to go with Haiti... been to both, and Haiti has zero quality of life.  '
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I hope not, NCIS: Las Vegas still needs him to look tough and menacing.'
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'that'd fit with haiti... a wimp woldn't sit the throne long'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'so do you guys normaly chill and wait for something to pop up on this channel?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'pretty much'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'say something profound or 'debatable', and opinions will come out of the woodwork'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'for example... "Ford is WAY better than Chevy"... or "McDonald's frenchfries are the BEST in the industry".. if that fails, "my dad can beat up your dad" might get a response or two'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Which is better Linux or OpenBSD?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'lol , i see.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'who would run anything but Windows®.... duh!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'see how I just 'Trolled' there?  you should avoid doing that'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Someone who needs to get work done?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'speaking of windows....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'BSD rhymes with STD'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'and LSD'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Feds made a HUGE marijuana bust the other day....they stopped a driver with 30 HUGE grams of weed in the glove box.....They called it a major victory in the war on drugs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'People who like Obama are dumb.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I agree'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'So are people that spend all their time hating him and supporting people like Mitt Romney for president. They are dumb too.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Damn, then I am a hiveling, oh wait I'm the hive queen therefore exempt'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'It's somewhere on page 4,023 in the Clean Air Act... I convinced a politician to stick that clause in there'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Rand Paul is leading the charge again, this time rallying against the UN small arms treaty which, if ratified by the senate, would require registration of all semi-automatic weaponary as an initiator to full confiscation'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'gets the blood pumping, huh?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well it help someone is fighting for it, but he's a minority'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'teh GOP have been working 24/7 to try and prevent real conservatives getting any kind of power in the party'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I don't know about all that... but the current crop of GOP sure as hell isn't exactly successful'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'healthcare premiums should have the difference refunded if the total cost of your coverage uses (prescriptions, checkups, etc) is less than your total premiums paid.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I don't agree with current plans for healthcare, but in order for any insurance to work, your premiums have to go towards paying for the care of those who get sick.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'If they did, they'd be unable to pay the huge costs that some people pay'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there's very few proper conservatives in the GOP is why, vonliege'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I know car insurance companies don't usually profit off of premiums.  They profit on their investments'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the GOP aren't conservative, just like Obama isn't really a democrat'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'that's like saying "I should have to buy car inssurance unless I wreck my car"'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I think they spend 1.01 on every dollar they receive in premiums'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'what on earth would be the reason for it? you pay a little because you're reducing risk.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'however, unlike cars, it would be darn tough to self-insure for medical'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You could always not pay for health insurance... but you run the risk of getting in a bad accident and have a 500,000 bill stuck in your mailbox'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'what I fundamentally disagree with is the 'oh, you have insurance? your price is 400. Oh, you don't? Well, we only negotiate with large companies so your price is 1800.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'a $500,000 bill that nobody would EVER make you pay... you'd get a bail-out of some kind... this is a zero-consequence society'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'True, but I guess I have morals and would pay it'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Something this country doesn't have much these days.  And I'm young lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I wonder if we'll ever see vanishing-deductible in healthcare?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'so few like that, Noegel... so few'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You will never see vanishing deductible healthcare.  Your body only gets worse and more... well dead'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'healthcare premiums up 30-100% thanks to obamacare'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'your morals? how many years of poverty-level living would it take for you to genuinely come up with 500k? :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I don't get into accidents often, but when I do...HAHA, suckers, you have to pay for it all!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'A while, I suppose but I have some pretty good insurance'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'if your so hard up that you will never make $500K, and you owe it because you 'took the risk' of not havingin insurence, then you should never get a car again...  ever.  you can move into a government work program where they come and pick you up'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'the problem is that people DON'T have inssurance (car or health) because the know there is no consequence... they will always get medical car, and no one will ever take away their car'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not here they won't, you don't have car insurance, you get banned from the road and your car crushed'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'car = care.... except where it means car'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'New Car Insurance is fantastic though, I will give you that!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'Tigernuts.. is that germany?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Tigernuts is an uptight, starch-suited Briton.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hardly'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'well thanks the queen for standards!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): *Yay!*  Go Tigernuts!!!  Tinada cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My father is british and he has a silly accent'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Then again my mom is Mexican and Japanese and has an equally strange accent'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'll be quiet now'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so no, it was UK'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'don't know much about the UK... what happens there if you get a DWI/DUI?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'do you ever drive again?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'our laws are more controlling and draconian than the US, but tend to be more consistently and reasonably applied'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'they give you a free pass to live with the queen for a week.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'DUI will normally cause you to be banned from driving for 12-24 months and a sizeable fine, and could force you to retake your test, either way, insurance will rocket for you'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'right... as long as your not drunk on Jamason!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I'm all-euro--a little bit English (relation to all US presidents named Adams), a little bit Norway (the dread pirate Lofgren, but details are sketchy at best far as we've found), a little bit Irish, and 3/4ths Austrian-germanic.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why can't americans just be american?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'There is a bar and grill in Atlanta Georgia that requires an appointment to purchase its best in America burger.....The waiting list is 6 weeks long.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'lacks immigration policies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't go around saying i'm 4% french, 8% danish, 14% aardvark, it's bollocks'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'by the time you get back half a dozen generations your genes will be so convoluted that it doesn't matter'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'they make all their own ingredients....it is all fresh.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I only went down to great-grandparents, so 4 generations at best.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'thanks to you guys, our government is instituting "secret courts"'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'whereby the evidence is seen by only the judge and government appointed attornies'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'my entire mom's side of the family is as close to incest as you can get without being illegal.  Her mom's parents and her dad's parents lived within blocks of each other in the same sleepy little village in Austria they emigrated from.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'must be because of out telivision-happy court drama fetish'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why? because of your fucked up corrupt intelligence service who won't allow intelligence they got through torture and other illegal means to be disclosed in trials, so up until now, instead of protesting innocent, government has been having to settle out of court costing millions of $$'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, a $100 cheesesteak.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'is that millions of $... or £?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'excuse me, did you say cheesesteak or cheesecake?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'cheese STEAK'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the restaurant sells 2200 of them each year.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'what part of the cow do they inject the cheese hormones?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'top end beef, truffels, a special cheese, and lobster, fresh bread, etc....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'pfft!  that's not cheesesteak, that's a fancy surf n' turf.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, lobster baked potato.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'did you know that in America there's a teacher getting disability because of her fear of kids?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well she's not allowed to discipline them anymore'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'all teachers should go on strike.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'for a week...see what happens.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'why?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'or that we gave out $880k in grants to study why snails in New Zealand have sex?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, i saw that HAns, it's a joke, aint it?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'you know the issue with that is that people will teach each other.  and they'll teach each other often fallacious things as fact'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'sadly, it's not a joke.  We have tons of these stories.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'so...no different from having teachers'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sw'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Government is not reason - it is not eloquent, it is a foce. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'force* not foce :-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'it's just an institution'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'a more famous example is that we spent I think a million on a study to figure out if cocaine was bad for chimpanzees.  A million dollars for the clear and express purpose of getting lab animals high.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'and like all institutions (and soylent green) it's made of people'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we need to breed more good people for government than the bad guys do'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not happening fast enough at the mo'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'so the problem isn't gov, it's groups of people that tends to muck things up'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there's a handful of good republicans, don't know about the demoplebs'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'well I like your plan.  get screwin''
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you need to support the good people'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and while I cannot say what the monetary investment is for these, we even have an online awards show to present spoof awards to the dumbest and most "Duh!!" science experiments showcasing stuff like "Water is wet" and "1 + 1 = 2"'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'My slogan is: More guns.  Fewer people!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'reports of Turkey firing artillery shells into Northern Iraq in an attempt to intimidate Kurdish rebels there'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, turkey and northern iraq are buddies now....northern iraq supplies them with oil.....Iraqistan is born.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, a 10 lb triple decker sandwich for $50.....it is 3 slices of bread and all meat.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, a chicken cone...now that looks good.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'I can no longer look at waffle cones.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it isnt an ice cream cone....it is a tortilla with chicken, and other toppings on it'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: '3 slices of bread is called a club sandwich, Riz.  3 buns is called a Big Mac.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the food truck that makes them in Austin Texas sells 30,000 of them in 3 days at some festival.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I love food trucks......there needs to be many many more.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hah, a guy in Wisconsin has been arrested for stealing 21 tons of cheese.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that's no gouda!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'he should have his swiss miss bring in some reading material, he's gonna be a while.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'apparently the cheese was worth about $200,000'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'heh, if DOMA gets struck down, the IRS might need SCOTUS to clarify the tax code.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I really really really want to make a comment... but every time I try to make a point, I get beat down for being a troll.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I love trolls.  Make a comment, please.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos eyes Vonliege suspiciously.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, steak, mashed potatoes, beans, rolls, and gravy.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'their ARE pretty tasty with butter-cream sauce'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'boiled carrots also.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Boiled carrots... government planted food, if you ask me.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'these are locally grown carrots, and boil steamed myself.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and slathered in butter.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'That's what they want you to think...'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'lol well obama did sign the monsanto act giving them immunity'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that's kinda why you never, ever take what gets said in a colored piece of text seriously.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, 8 oz ribeye steak...medium rare.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'salt and pepper.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I like new york strip, rare'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Rubbed with sea salt and crushed black pepper'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and ground up illegal people.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'i like steak bloody'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Gosh, no'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we all know what you guys really do with the illegals.....*peer*'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'They are very ripe when I pick them up in the brush.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'lol '
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'You like your steak like you like your women?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Overripe illegals are not delicious'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Um, not a lesbian, sorry'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'hell ya thick abd bloody'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hanslanda . o O ( Bossy exclaims 'Ow!  Something just bit me!  Eww, get away, you perv!' )
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'illegal asians are delicious'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'my fav part of the film Twister is when they are cooking up the grass fed beef steaks'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'mine was when the tornado was destroying shit'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'all that lovely fat on the steaks...so they must have been finished on corn.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'gmo corm'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'gmo corn is good for making fat steers.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'so is any corn actually.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I inject my cows with nanobots.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'lmfao'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'It's not working out so far.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'gmo corn guarantees them to be texan.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'my day has offically been made'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'i been waiting all day for it'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Wow, the wait must have been terrible.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'almost all beef producted in the US is gmo fed....you wont get away from it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nothing wrong with gmo.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'GMO is just making centuries of breeding plants into an overnight deal'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'For extra delicious plants'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'pretty soon, that all natural grass will be gmo.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'The thing that sucks about bananas, though, is that they are fragile.  I believe we had a sweeter and more delicious banana before it went extinct in the fifties or so'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Good thing I wasn't alive to suffer through that banana crisis'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the current banana is going extinct also.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yup'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'We need more GMO Banananers'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'natural bananas have no defense against that disease that is wiping them out.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'neither do gmo ones.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Well, looks like we have hired some pathetic gmo scientists'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I say we liquify them and feed them to the plants.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ever check out that golden rice? :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'whats with all the gmo bullshit then?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I have no idea, Edicius... only Jesus knows.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'like the whole global warming bs?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'whos jesus?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a new gmo rice has all the vitamins and minerals within it, so it doesnt have to be coated on the rice.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'the guy that sells oranges at the intersection?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and it can grow in places where rice cant grow right now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'jesus is the gay hippie with a Broadway contract hoping to raise money for ailing churches.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'i thought that was the devil'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My grandma is Japanese.  She loves rice.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'jesus likes mexican refried beams'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I like lentils, and pinto beans.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My grandpa is Mexican.  He loves refried beans.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I am all races.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'my chili is to die for....real chili has beans.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'youb are alien'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Hell yes to Rizgoth!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'real chili had no beans'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel whistles a happy tune while skipping through a field of genetically-mutated plants!
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'when kit carson died....his last words were....I wish I had more time to eat a bowl of chili.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Hallelujah!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'when i die i want to be made into chili '
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's not real chili if you can still feel your tongue after you're done.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'god blowtorch blows'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'true that hans'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'or if you can poop rite the next week'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I don't poop.  I am an amoeba.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the perfect meal.....a nice medium rare steak with a scoop of chili on top, mashed potatoes and gravy, and boiled carrots.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I make people poop when they ingest me in standing water.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'riz thats the texan meal'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'god damn i wanna steak with chili on it and some toast with garlic butter'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'The term Texan is being ruined by all the Californians moving here once they realize how much they are overspending to live in a horrible place.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'sounds like alberta for canada'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I saw that episode of King of the hIll'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Some jack woman in a Prius with California plates said by Boss was too loud.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'who can you ruin a non-existent reputation?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hopefully those calis will move to SE texas, and decide they dont like the humidity, and then move to another state...not realizing that most of Texas has much lower humidity.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'A non-existant reputation?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'A state with non-existant reputation is like Idaho, or Ohio.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, sorry, how can you ruin a bad reputation?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Bad is how you view it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'open up and say AHHH!  7000 Oklahoman dental patients are being cautioned that they need to get an HIV test...'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol, sucks to be them... always a chance no matter where you go.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I almost caught HIV at the store today.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But I punched it in the face.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'oh, and a tall glass of iced tea and lemonade with the meal....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'how about this: A dark-skinned friend of mine went to Texas to work on a contract. It required for him to sleep during the day and work at night. After he got off work at about 4am he went jogging. A police cruiser came by and asked him what he was doing, he explained that he needed the exercise. The policeman finally told him "Well, boy, as long as you are not running with a TV under your arm, we won't bother you". '
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'perhaps a loaf of garlic bread on the side.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol I don't know what part of Texas he went to, but we have so many military bases around here that cops are friendly to all races.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Racism is everywhere.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Lake Jackson, 55 mi from Houston.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yes, but in California, the cops would not say that to you. Or Nevada, for that matter, though Nevada is pretty racist.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Texas is original....we dislike murderers so much that we created our own murder court for it.....a group of ex prosecutors who preside over appeals when you get sentenced.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You would have cops say that in California.  Or anywhere.  Depends soley on the police officer involved.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Dutch startup Mars One is hoping to air the first reality show on Mars in 2022...'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Yeah right, alaska natives are stopped all the time in Alaska.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'white people rarely.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'maybe, there is a chance that would happen. That odds are that it wouldn't happen the first time you ran into one.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and in California, or Nevada, they won't chain you to the back of a pick up truck and drag you to death :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol sure they don't do that here'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it happened in Texas.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no, in cali or nevada, they dig a hole in the desert and plant your ass in it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yeah, and shit happens everywhere.  You can't group all Texans as racists... just like you can't group all white people as supremists or black people as gangsta pimps.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, that may very well happen, but we don't know if it does. We know it happens in Texas.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'When was the last time you heard of that happening in Texas?  Yet murders happen much more in cali then texas.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Just like not everyone in California are a bunch of rich, blonde idiots who run around making judgemental statements'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'no, I am not grouping all Texans as racist, that would be bigoted of me. I am pointing out though, that someone darked-skilled was insulted by a policeman, and another was dragged to death.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'We also allow citizens to protect their homes....imagine that...protecting your home from people who would do you harm, or steal your stuff.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'and that happens all the time, or just the two times?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'and that happens all the time, or just the two times?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'oooops... sorry'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Black people and othe races get told things everywhere.  And the dragged behind truck incident was over a decade ago.  It doesn't happen daily.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'so it is relativily safe for black people in TX today?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I don't know. I don't know that many people who have been to Texas :) Though, I have been there a few times, myself :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Uh yeah'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'good question, Vonliege :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Dallas is around 40% black.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'About as safe as any other state'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'A suburb of Dallas though....is about 90% white. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Dallas was 40% 40 years ago, too :) I don't think it was fun being black in Dallas then :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Besides, black people mostly murder themselves it seems'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'nice one, Noegel :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You think it was fun being black anywhere 40 or 50 years ago lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol oops'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'deep ellum'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I don't know if it was. But I was just pointing out that 40% black now in Dallas is not a new thing.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'the most dangerous place for blacks in AL is black neighborhoods'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the largest group of people in Texas now is hispanic.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'right, but you don't say that about white neighborhoods. You don't say "the most dangerous place for whites is white neighborhoods". '
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'People who live in the "ghetto" should 1) Stop talking with a ridiculous accent 2) Stop blaming the man for their financial woes'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and stop wearing their pants under their asses.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'when the cops come, they trip.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I know, it's hard to run from the cops without a belt'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'right, I mean, imagine that. No wonder they get killed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'anyone having their pants dragging should be shot.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'its no wonder that gang members are the highest rate of murders in drive byes......if I was doing the drivebye...I would aim at the idiots with the pants under their asses also.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'easy prey to shoot at.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I would just give them a drive-by hug'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, except at night. Unless you use flood lights, right?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yeah, Anaristos, because poor neighborhoods don't have streetlights because the man doesn't give them electricity.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel shakes her fist at the man!
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'who is the man?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'The Guvment'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'cream rising to the crop.  Dunno why you're asking me, I'm just here to bring diversity to the channel.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel hugs Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you are diversed :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I still like medium rare steak.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I stole your steak and gave it to the racist popo.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I have plenty.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'if only we could get different restaurants to make it consistent.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Or you could grill your own with mesquite wood'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'also have 120 lbs of pork in the freezer from the last group boar hunt :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'No shortage of that on my land... everything here has spines... even the beautiful wildflowers have spines'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '20 lbs of bacon.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Bacoooon'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'hickory, or apple.  Gotta know what you're doing with apple, though, cause it turns the meat pink.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Sometimes I like to cook with the wood from the houses of the poor (evil)'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'll be quiet now'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'made some venison chili last week, the last of the deer my dad shot back in October.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'How does meat taste after being deep frozen for that long?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'shot back?  Did he let the deer have a turn first?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm contemplating getting a deep freezer'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if you wrap it correctly, it is fine.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'lol my dad still has like a half feezer full of venison'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'got some left over venison meatloaf and steak in frisge too'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'gonna go moose hunting in Canada this fall....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'that sounds fun lots of work tho'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I hope you hunt with nothing but a Bowie knife and your fists.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, the yummy meat makes up for the 5 days of hunting.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mix moose with pork and make sausage.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'moose is SWEET and TENDER!... best game meat IMO'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'rabbit'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I think beaver might be better...'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Has anyone here ever ridden a moose?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I like most game meat plenty... but Moose is the only one that I consider 'stand-alone'... no pork required'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Elk is really good also.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'ground venison mixed with ground lamb is amazing'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the couch is lumpy, so I'll just say "no".'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'any wild meat is stand alone'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Had a black bear steak once....at a restaurant in washington state.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I can't wait until they come up with genetically-modified game... game that fights back!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'elk is it's own thing... it's ok, depending on the diet (nibbling moss of rocks makes poor meat)... Caribue is the worst'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'in spokane.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'the sweet taste of lamb mixed with the wild flavor od venison omg'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'porcipine is delicious'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they're called bears, Noegel.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'black bear is not good btw.....to tough'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I wrestle bears in my dreams, so they don't count.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'bear is just not that good.  have to eat it, though, to have an excuse to hunt for a rug!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'rappie acadian style with all wild meat nothing beats it'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'go shoot a moose at like 10 yards with a bow and not from a tree... i would crap myself'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the way to hunt bear is to shoot it anywhere but in the head.  They've got harder noggins than the proverbial black man.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Can you play with the bear rug's mouth?  Or is it permanently open?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'those things are massive and it they turn on you or something its not gonna be pretty'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'only ever seen them open or closed... but would be fun to wire one up for motion.... the 'ACTION' bear rug'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'a moose turns on you your ass is dead'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'moose are the most dangerous animal in the wild.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'next to a hippo'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'got to tune into the local radio in fairbanks to get the morning moose report... what roads are backed up because of a moose.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yeah, hippos are terrifying'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no hippos around here. :('
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'or try and stalk a white tail deer those things are really hard to close in on without being noticed'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You haven't seen the West Texas Hippo then'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'It's kind of a legend'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'your mom ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'aren't those called tourists?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'No, my mom died when I was young, raised by grandparents'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But could be'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'wtg grandparents.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Edicius: 'well atleast someone rasied ya'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm just kidding, I just wanted to make the mom comment awkward'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'my grandpa loves to hunt.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I love to hunt wild boar.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I shoot boars at work.  They let us because the population is out of control'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, we use em for food on the ranch.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'good meat when roasted.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'We cook them at the checkpoint'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'yummy pork steak with beans.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'aren't you worried about attracting coyotes?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Coyotes are pansies'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'even when they're shooting at you?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Oh you mean the smuggling coyotes lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And no, they avoid the checkpoint... Got night vision and day cameras that give a good seven mile surveillance around the point'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'everyone should have a meat steer or two in their yard.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Senator Starbug: 'you mean like a wife mowing the lawn?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or 5 meat goats.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'or a pig'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'pigs are omnivorous, like we are!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'What if you don't have a yard?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Chain them to the roof'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'keep a potbelly pig in your apartment :D'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'use your neighbors yard.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I would like to keep my own chickens and maybe some lambs, but living in an apartment, that's not really an option...'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'researchers have created a higher fiber potato....it has twice as much fiber.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And twice the waste expelled'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Still makes it pretty low in fiber.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'make sure to eat the skin....that is the best part.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Mashed potatoes with skin'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I prefer sweet potatos, they have plenty of micronutrients as well, not just starch.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, and brown gravy'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'yams ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Aye, yams, not good '
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'I always eat the potatoes with the skin. '
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yams are not sweet potatoes.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mashed sweet potatoes and brown gravy is not the same.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yikes I am mindblownb'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yams come from africa, sweet potatoes from south america.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Like scotch n whiskey then'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and potatoes from south america also.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'BTW, for the origin of different foods, I recommend "guns, germs and steel".'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'brown gravy deserves its own food group.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Only if you make your own brown gravy... none of that powdered crap'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'powdered anything is usually awful'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Cocaine is a hell of a drug.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Any food should be made yourself, from scratch.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'The problem with making food "for real", it that you just can't eat the processed stuff once you know how real food tastes.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'well, you can, but you have to be both very hungry and very broke.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I disagree.  Sometimes I crave a nasty gas station burrito.. I know I'm a nasty girl'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yeah, I suppose so :D'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Maybe that's just immune system that wants pratice, Noegel.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'your*'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My immune system once stabbed malaria in the gut while nina-kicking swine flu.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Then I woke up from my dream.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, making donuts using coconut oil....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I prefer how people used to eat back in the 1880s.....real food.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'lots of butter, meat, eggs, flour, etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I guess if you like eating the same thing most everyday'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Awww'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Smart move! Queen Bee Noegel tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed her last mischan.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'made some donuts, didnt have lard though, so used coconut oil.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'How did it turn out?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'found a recipe book from 1885.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'turned out great.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'cinnamon and sugar donuts.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Send me some on the Pony Express'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'going to make baked apple pudding on saturday....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ooh, a recipe for sourdough cornbread.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I love cooking'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'I disagree'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I like simple foods....lots of steak, mashed potatoes, veggies with butter, rolls, etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: '? Biff'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You like real food!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: '...arent we suppose tod ebate things here?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol true'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'so im taking the stance that you dont like cooking '
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or fried chicken, corn on the cob, rolls, and beans.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'gonna cook some hen fruits in cow grease tomorrow.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Texas Butter: Gravy made from steak grease and flour. If available, milk was used.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'you can make gravy out of any grease and flour :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'dont be a smart ass....:)'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'don't they call that spackle?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'this is a Texas cookbook!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'I am being serious! I had rice and gravy with bacon-grease gravy recently :D'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I make gravy from the drippings after cooking the steak......for the mashed potatoes....yum.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'add a little bacon grease to it also.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm coming over, Rizgoth, and you are going to cook me a Texan meal.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'Another one I loved was the bacon mac and cheese with the bacon grease forming the base for the cheese sauce as well :D'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'will cook you a plate of mountain oysters....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'boiled bull balls, yum!'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'going to make salmon-crab patties tomorrow for dinner, with cole slaw, corn on the cob, rolls, and apple pie with vanilla ice cream for dessert.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm still coming over.  I'll go door to door until I find your house.  Might take a while in this state, though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'homemade tartar sauce also.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and honey from my dad's bees.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'maybe some beans also....like to eat beans every day....'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Can I play with your dad's bees?'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'they are africanized.'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Even better'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'Africanized bees are the future'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we feed illegal aliens to them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I ride Africanized Bees on patrol.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'i belive africanized bees are the bee of choice now in brazil'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Of course, they are genetically modified and they roar'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you don't choose africanized bees, they choose you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'and the aggressive tendencies are being bred out'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, with genetics from bumble bees.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I wonder if solitary bees can be africanized?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'umm they are called africanized because they were african bees crossed with european bees'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we should go back to rendered beef fat.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'what is the difference between a honey bee and an africanized honey bee? THE SIZE OF THEIR DICKS!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol snooky'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'not all Africanized bees exhibit the agressive traits of african bees'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Just the ghetto ones'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'love dutch oven biscuits dripping with butter and honey.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'just dont let the agressive hives continue.. yadda yadda '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I like the custard pies more than the apple ones.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'When Cookie  was finished with his work for the day and before hitting the sack, he would always place the tongue of the chuck wagon facing north. When the trail master started in the morning he would look at the tongue and then knew what direction he would be moving the herd. '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Sounds like a good practice'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, using the stars :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and never trust a skinny cook !'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Correct, like the skinny ladies on Food network'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, or skinny chefs....they obviously sell tiny portions....'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Ugh, I went to a fancy restaurant that served steak once for a wedding... the steak was like 3 ounces and I almost scream what the **** is this crap'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'A steak nugget??'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'a medallion'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'according to your govt, that is a big steak serving.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Fancy talk for screwing you over for 75 dollars'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'If you want a good deal on a steak...get that $50 texas 72 oz steak up im Amarillo.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if you eat it all within an hour, it is free.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if you go to the same restaurant on your bday...you can get a prime rib dinner for 1 cent.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Too bad that would be a hell of a drive'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, Respect the Wind by Van Halen has got to be one of the best instrumentals ever made'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, what happened to axl rose?  He gained like 50 lbs or something....and his voice is gone.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'what's your favorite color and why'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My favorite color is navy blue because I just friggin' like it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Cyan'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'EXPLAIN!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'This Ferien enjoys green, a dark green that is, because This Ferien likes Those Earthy Types of Colors.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Erie gives a round of applause.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'The quiet skies are navy blue.  So are the pools of morning dew.  Navy blue is the color of love and also the color of my shoes (sort of)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'This Ferien also likes brown, as such, but you said "Favorite Color" and thus This Ferien had to choose between Them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, back in 1992, gnr was huge....so was metallica....now, gnr is a hasbeen, and metallica is still going strong.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Night of the Comet is a classic film.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'What is it about, Sir Rizgoth?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a comet that brushes the planet and kills off 99% of the people on the planet, and 9/10ths of the remaining 1% are zombies that dry up and die after a few days.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'All you need is steak and beans.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, bean and rice soup.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'apple pie...'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel summons Snooky to the debate!
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'lets get started'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'God didn't write the bill of rights. Humans did.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel jams on her guitar, kinda like dimebag darrel!
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I wrote the Bill of Rights.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Snooky hates debate.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'ok, who believes in a Supreme being and who does not, so at least we know who is who'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Well, I believe in a Supreme Being... just in a little different sense than your tradition Christian.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'I will start  I believe in one God.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I gotta go running Crystia.  Before the traffic begins to come!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You can believe what you want. As long as you don't base important decisions in life on it, or preach to others about it, it's fine. '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'Be safe Noegel'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I will!  I run at night as to not die by traffic.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I can handle myself.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'and why is that Ranrr?  Don't you thinks laws are already based on those things?  Murder etc..'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Laws are based on what we agree as a collective.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'And their origins are in religion.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Religion tries to add a few things as laws that we don't agree upon as a collective.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'No, the origins are not in religion. '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Morals are much older than religion.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'cavemen had religion'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'So?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'So our laws are based on some religion laws.  Do not kill, do not steal.... it use to be morally wrong to lie.  Not anymore.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Let me rephrase it another way: If you need a supernatural being to know that it is wrong to kill or rape, I don't want to be around you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Nejihyuga is agreeing with that Ranrr person again...
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'That is not the point, the point is origins of these thoughts of not to kill and the like.  When a government official gets sworn in, they get sworn in with a Bible or Quran .... American money has in God we Trust on it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'I do not know if now... in court people had to swear on the Bible.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'our money could just as easily said In Donkeys we Trust.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Sure, the US is a weird place. Agreed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'But it doesn't say that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Then, I guess, the US has more morals than any other place, since you are so religious?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'I do not know that answer.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'most religious people are hypocrites in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'I am not in America'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Well, if morals come from religion, the more religion you have, the more morals.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I have a hard time with people who think that being athiest is a part of being "enlightened" as though only godless people are intelligent.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'And places like sweden, where 85% is non-religions must be very immoral.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'Not always true Ranrr'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'I personally think it is in people's hearts, how good they are.  Not if they are Christian or whatever.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'So, now you agree with me?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'it is just a label'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'religion has been the cause of all dark spots in human history......'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'i agre with Rizgoth'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'really?  Did Hitler go to Church?  Did he do what he did because of religion or was race or was it because of the bankers?  What is going on in Syria, is that about religion?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'good or bad, organized religious held back human scientific knowledge for centuries, and it still does to a certain point today.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'hitler was a christian , in one of hes notes he sed "i believe i am doing *the lords* work"'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'Just because you say it does not mean it is actually what you are doing.  That is why it is in the heart and none of us know what is in each other's hearts.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'so we can't say anyone is a good person just by what organization they are in.  They could be feeding the poor and be an axe murderer.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and for the record, I believe in a higher power, but I dont believe in organized religion.  Man created organized religion to control other men, and women.  And to explain things that he/she did not understand in the natural world.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'yes, some religions do dumb down their people, make them sheep instead of challenging to learn on their own.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'making them afraid of the dark'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'And for the record, I do not believe in a higher power. But I will change my mind if proven that a higher power exists.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'sorry was helping bro move something. Hope i didnt miss much'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'why dosent god pop up in the sky , whats stoping him?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the classic excuse is, humanity is so busy and loud now that we can't 'hear' the word.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'Well, I think that people are just use to doing whatever they want these days and they are encouraged to have no limits.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Why would a creator such as god make us just to babysit us like so many are thinking?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'a permissive and undiciplined world'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'maybe he wants to test you and see what you are really made of.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Mind you I don't follow any specific organized religion. But I believe we were put here by an all knowing creator.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'The simplest explanation, of course, is that no god exists.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'The Donkey knows all.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'If you believed in life after death, a resurrection, then the test model makes sense.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Well sure Ranrr. Of course that is the simplest scientific explenation...'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'So tell me all about before the big bang.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'i dont know. Tell me , who created god?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Oh, you're trying to turn this into a "I don't believe in science" because science doesn't have all answers- discussion, huh? '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'No I follow science entirely'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'No body created God.  Imagine that.  A God that just is, from beginning to end.  Hard to get your head around that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'Alpha and Omega'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Science is the knowledge of uncertainty. That is just how it is.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Crystia nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'and I am totally into science'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'Love it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Nobody religious can be totally into science, imho.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Science is us figuring out "how" things came to be. Religion is us figuring out "why" we are here.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I am "religious", and I am "totally into science"...   your statement is therfor disproved'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'The problem is that religion is more about how than why.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'That is where you are wrong Ranrr...it is science that proves that there is a God to me.  Our universe is sooooo ordely.  I look up into the night sky and I wonder at the beauty of it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'it was an opinion, to be fair, though'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'that answer is completley ilogical , firstly for X to exist X requiers a creator . saying god has always been there is the same as saying that google created itself.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Well that is the ignorance of athiests Von. You think those that have a religion are less than you are.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'the universe is not orderly'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'indeed the presence of stars is due to disorder'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Athiesim and enlightenment do not go hand in hand. I wish people would stop acting like it does.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I just think that those that believe in things for which there is no proof are wasting their time.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'It is orderly in its chaos.  There are chances in that order...like a meterite hitting the earth, it is relative chaos but overall... we are expanding and then we will collapse.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'the universe? orderly? Explain the flying rocks in space.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I want a food replicator damnit....come on science dont let me down!  Steak and beans for all !'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'they have an order that they are following.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'you mean that there are pockets of apparent orderliness within the overall chaos? Yes, that is true'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'but irrelevant to the existence of God'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: '3D printers will be able to print food pretty soon. Of course, to do that, they would need... food as raw material.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Where do the Vulcans and Vorlons fit in this diety world ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'my printer can already do that'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Ranrr how much certainty do you have in the whole of science to be able to decide who is wasting their time and who isnt? You seem to just be taking a cop out and buying into the idea that being atheist is the smartest looking image for a person. You probably learned it early on to fit in to whatever caste you were raised in.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'It depends on how you define what is the relevant facts to the existence of God.  If it is just left to... he has to appear before me, then that is very narrow scope in my opinion.  Just look at creation is what I saw.  '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, a real food replicator only needs base elements and electricity to create anything that is programmed into the machine.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'i seed explain them not tell me that thay are flying around in space. Thay are debre from planetary collisions , i ask is a planet smashing into a planet orderly?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'A 3d printer that can take carbon et al and make a steak is probably a bit into the future, but I bet not more than 100 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, a 3d printer is a step i the right direction.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'So Neh your argument is that planents and shit smash into each other therfore god does not exist?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'Why isn't it orderly Nejihyuga if that is the nature of heavenly bodies to one day crash into another.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'such a printer would not be economical to make or run'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'or never crash'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'people thought computers would never be economical also......'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or smaller then a room'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: '3D printers will do most of small manufacturing within 10 years, I predict. At lower cost than now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'peopel need to look for new jobs then'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'certainly 3D printers will become very important in the near future'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'crystia , you are bieng willing fully ignorant by saying "it is orderly for them to smash into each other and at the same time to never smash into each other."'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, an early generation 3d printer would be good for making rubber dog shit, instead of some chinese factory making them and shipping them to the US'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'I am disputing the use of chemical elements as the raw materials'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'If you make your living by manufacturing, your job has been in danger for the last 200 years, at least. And the trend will continue until pretty much all manufacturing is automated.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'Not at all Nej, the nature of the lion is to kill the gazelle for food. Hevenly bodies interact and cause and effect...what happens if everything just stayed the same?  We grow old and out hair turn grey or fall out, we wrinkling and die.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'Order does not mean things are stagnant.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'seems to me to make a steak, you just need carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, and I dont know what else, and a protein synthesizer, '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Some micronutrients, like magnesium, iron and stuff. Can probably use sea water.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'to make steak, you need a calf - add corn, hay, water and time... '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Corn? You mean grass?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'you use corn to make the cattle fat...not to keep them alive.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'if you want tough steak... for good steak, the calf needs protiens'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'DBL DBL DBL'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Only in the US. Corn is not natural food fod a cow, and will make their fat unhealthy (by too much omega-6).'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'but TASTY!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Grass feed beef is so much better.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nejihyuga: 'gota go kill afew mobs brk'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'dry and dull tasting'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'grass fed beef, and finished on corn is the way I like it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'dry and dull tasting'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'Got to go myself, nice chatting with all of you, was fun.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'but pushing a couple buttons and getting a nice medium rare steak with fried onions and mushrooms, mashed potatoes and gravy, and boiled carrots.....that is my dream....'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a replicator could also clean your clothes.....no need to wash them in water anymore....think of the fresh water savings.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'recycle them'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'using the replicator would be recycling them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the clothes are dissolved back into base elements, and then used to recreate more clothes, or food, etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'That would take a lot of energy, though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, energy would need to be more plentiful and cheaper.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Let's just make a dyson sphere around the sun, and that problem is solved.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'but if you take into account the energy savings of not needing to wash clothes, dishes, etc, it wouldnt be that much more.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ah, poor marky zucky, he will have to pay $1.1 billion in income tax for 2012.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ouch, the capital gains tax went up to 23.8 % this year.....damn liberals are taking all our money.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Mark Zuckerberg is one rich dude.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Or whatever his last name is'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, he made $2.3 billion in 2012.....will pay 48% tax on that....state and federal.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he will make much much less in 2013 though.....unless he exercises more stock options.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he takes no salary as ceo of facebook.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Sucks for him... I don't pay state income tax woohoo!!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, that $6 billion bay bridge in cali is impressive.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Too bad it is in California'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'DOMA'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'you know... I played this game on a univax terminal, and it wasn't any fun'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'after watching a few doc's i've learned to hate words like "extraordinary", "immense", "unimaginable", .. what the hell. why cant they just talk about things like normal people do?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you would prefer your news littered with valley-speak?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'what is valley-speak?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'big hair, 1980s, bubblegum...'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'like, totally!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'eh. there is NO mainstream docs that just explain things. they all shout big numbers and shit like that'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '"BIG NUMBERS AND SHIT!"'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Top donors threaten Dems: Do the right thing on guns, or no more money'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's come to this, the vest interests flexing their vests'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Which ocean is higher in elevation in latin america?  The atlantic side, or the pacific side ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'uhhhh'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'the pacific is about 8 inches higher'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I've got yet 8 inches right here'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yer*'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_046.html'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'DOMA'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'DOMA Arigato!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mr roboto'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'DOMO'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brujah: 'Sumimasen.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos . o O ( "doma" is house in russian... )
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'dang right you are...'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'sorry as anyone I've ever seen!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'if DOMA gets overturned, the gates will be wide open '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'what does that euphemism stand for?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: '"the gates will open"'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brujah: 'Bill Gates will come out of the closet.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'no chance, he is a neuter.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Don't you mean the closet will be wide open?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'that IS apropo, Snooky'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'homosexuality is older than the USA, probably as old as humankind. Suddenly, a bunch anal retentives feel the need to enforce their will on nature.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'no wonder the Puritans were run out of Europe.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'if your refering to ancient greece and rome, then child prostituion, incest, and child rape were also acceptable'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'not to mention beastiality, and public spectacle of animal and human slaughter'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'looooooooooooooooooooooonsoooooooooooooooooooooooooome! Dooooooooooooooooooove!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'what does child prostitution and incest have to do with homosexuality. As for incest, you wouldn't be here if it weren't for incest. Incest is also as old as humankind and it was a necessary means of getting the human race to exist.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'oh, wait, I was wrong. God created 1024 men and 1024 women simultaneously so that they could produce 512 children at a time.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and scattered them far enough away from each other to create multiple gene pools.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'by using historic precedent as grounds for justifying the act of homosexuality. then you must also justify all the afor mentioned atrosities.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'justifying the act? Why should the act be justified?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'once sex is conducted without the intent of procreation, all bets are off. Since, technically, any sex act that isn't involved in procreation is deviant.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so quit giving blow jobs, you pervert.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'that is untrue from the Christian perspective'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'prostitution allowed us to colonize the western part of the US.....*nods to self*'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I have choice words for that perspective, but I won't use them in mixed company.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'the marriage bed, as defined by God (the God of Abraham, to be clear), is for a married man and woman to have a good time.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'he didn't define it that way for me. In fact, since we have never spoken, he hasn't defined anything to me.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'then you are lost, and this conversation is pointless'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'good evening'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'though, in the face of it, the idea that god speaks is absurd.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'sure it is pointless, you want to be narrow-minded and have the gall to tell others how to behave when their acts don't threaten you. If you weren't allowed to look down on homosexuals your life would be meaningless, since you then couldn't find anyone to look down on and get away with it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'ah ha... I never said homosexuals... I love ALL men, even homosexuals (agape), it is the ACT of homosexuality that I condemn'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'why?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Alexander the Great was a homosexual, Samurai practice the art of "manly love". Rome who ruled the world once, found bisexuality commonplace.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'obviously, homosexuality doesn't appear to be disabling :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'but narrow-minded Puritans keep bringing the world to the edge of distruction.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'to market to market, to buy a fat pig.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'Home again, home again, dancing a jig'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I love farmers markets....need more of them.....everywhere!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Alexander the Great, some greeks, some Samurai, some Romans, were killers murderers and abominations and prehaps not so coincidentally were homosexual'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'gee, and of course, no heterosexual come be labeled that way. So it must be homosexuality that drives men to be butchers.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'in general, sex-perverts tend to be sexually motivated to be serial killers'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'ancient rome also openly practiced child rape, incest, and public mass murders of those they diagreed with'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I see, so all murderers are latent homosexuals.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'of course, there is no child rape, incest and public mass murderers in modern times. Not unless, those acts are performed by homosexuals. I get your point.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you are right, we should hang all homosexuals in order to bring peace and safety to the world.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'nope... you completly missed the point.. you're just thrashing in the water'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'this commentary is great and all, but I just want to know why.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I think my question is more simple and straightforward'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'and those addiction to mass-murders and other atrocities tend to be with a predilection to be sex-perverts'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I didn't miss the point, you are claiming that incest, child  rape and mass murder is caused by homosexuals because they are homosexuals. I did get your point.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I never claimed that, Anaristos... you just threw that out there like a ranger throws smoke'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I guess I'm going to be ignored. ok.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'with heterosexual sex-perversion, there is an evolutionary auto-correcting psychology'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I was simply stating that if you want to use the historical precedent that what was good for the romans is good for us today, then you must also think EVERYTHING about the romans is good for us today'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I don't know...togas are pretty awesome.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'togas - good... child rape - bad'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, you are making generalizations. You claim homosexuality leads to mass murder. So that means that all recent mass murders in the US were caused by homosexuals. Lincoln and Kennedy were murdered by homosexuals. That also means that those who dropped the bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were homosexuals.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'That last one was warfare Anaristos, not a mass murder.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'There is a lady at a farmers market in lancaster that has been selling just celery for 30 years.....a special sweeter celery that is grown in lancaster....a heirloom celery.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'when did anyone here but YOU say that homosexuality leads to mass murder?  check the buffer'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Romans were an abominable "necessary?evil" used (by god?) to eliminate even worse perversions'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Debate) Vonliege: 'ancient rome also openly practiced child rape, incest, and public mass murders of those they diagreed with''
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'zade is an abominable "necessary?evil" used (by god?) to eliminate brain cells'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'stop with the drugs, man'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos peers intently at Zade.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'what, do you you want a worthy debate opposition, or a choir singing praises about your errored opinions'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I suppose if DOMA is overturned, we will have to start granting 'married filing jointly' status to farmers who marry their pigs... not to mention 'man-boy-love'... it will not stop with homosexuality.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the point I am trying to pass to you is that homosexuality has nothing to do with how human beings treat each other. We are all sexual, one way or another. So we can subtract that from the equation. For instance, while I can't claim it doesn't happen, you don't hear of gangs of homosexuals attacking heterosexuals because they are heterosexuals.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I would love to go to the central market in Shanghai China....I hear it is one of the largest farmers markets in the world.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I think that we should keep the sheep away from you, Rizgoth.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I wouldn't enter it into the debate, regardless... isolated cases, such that they MAY be, would be anecdotal at best, and would not advance the debate in either direction'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you might not recognize it as such, Ana, but I hear lots of those types of attacks going on.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the "euphemism" was a colloiquial "the gates (of Hell and perversion) will be wide open!"'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'colloquial'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'yes... I said that (gates)... as a prejoiner to the eventuality of the US GOV recognizing beastial relations, and insestuous couplings'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the colloquial perhaps idiomatic when abbreviated'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'It may happen, Hanslanda. But there are no claims, to my knowledge, that it does happen. If a heterosexual were attacked by a gang of homosexuals it would make world-wide news. But no one comes forward and claims that it has happened to them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'would you admit to getting the shit beaten out of you by a bunch of guys who were probably undressing you with their eyes?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'ya... sort of like getting ass-raped in the locker room... regarless, it doesn't have much relevance to the issue on the table'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, lexington farmers market has racoon burgers.....that is a stop in my next road trip'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'did you go to the Hodecker Celery Farm booth?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'heh :) I don't recall every having been undressed by a man with his eyes. I am also sad to say that no woman has done that either :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'thats the lady who sells just celery right ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'ya... did you ask them (didn't know it was just a lady) how they get it sweet?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'havent been there, so no'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'if you like the celary... don't ask'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'is it sinister ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'is it made from dead people ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's not left-handed, no.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'no... unsavory would be closer'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the theory of the paranomrmal is not yet academically developed, but human sexuality is able to be detected by some (perhaps many) (especially psychically sensitive children), and the decent folk prefer that sexuality be heterosexual when broadcast'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'watching a pbs show on farmers markets in the US...and the celery lady at lexington was just shown.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'really? I bet you think you are civilized, Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'oh... thought you were AT the market'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'silly, though... look at the time'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'no, it is going to be a stop on my next road trip though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'in that case... they bleach the celary to get rid of some of the bitterness.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'clorox or walmart brand ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'not sinister at all'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'something a bit more industrial, I would imagine'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'there is another social stigma :) Being left-handed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'in the biblical Apocalypse, the battle between the good and the bad likely also includes the battle between the heterosexuals and the homosexuals'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'aside from some dubious and dated research ot the contrary, I would not think that being left handed is a handicap in todays society... other than having a hard time find a pair of scisorrs'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Let's see, it is wrong to be, blond, dark-haired, red-haired, blue-eyed, brown-eyed, green-eyed, left-handed, club-footed, tall, short, fat, thin, alive, dead. I wonder how many are left  after you remove all those.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'learning to ambidextrous is a remedy for left-handedness'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'there's a new petition going up that calls for the legalization of left-handedness'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'remedy?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'obviously you don't understand what nature is. If it exists it is natural.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'you see... you showed a bit of your motication there, Anaristos... you are very very bitter, and I suspect you have always been, and always will consider yourself a VICTIM of something or the other.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I love buying foods I never had before at farmers markets.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'also, the administration is quietly working to pass legislation that will make handedness illegal.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I promise you, if you quit being a begot, you won't lose the ability to become sexually excited. Though if you do, please seek psychiatric help.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'so I try to go to the world farmers markets, that have representation from many different peoples.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'note the christian parable of the wheat and the cockle  (perhaps also the parable of the heterosexuals and the homosexuals)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'seek psychiatric help anyway.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I can write parables, too, you know. There isn't anything supernatural about it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, an indian bitter melon...wonder how you prepare that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you can find it at congress.gov, House bill SB 10801'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'there is indeed if the parable was spoken by Jesus (capital J)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'lots of people have been named Jesus. Jesus was a very popular name circa 2K years ago :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'Anaristos... you hate Christians, don't you?  you can admit it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'biblical parables are far more famous likely wiser (than crap parables by wannabbees)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's been a very popular name for the 2k years since'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'after all... hating Christians is very hip these days.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Brujah: 'Jesus is a pretty mean bowler, I tell you what.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I don't hate Christians :) I just think they are full of bat guano :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Christians have the hispanics on their side.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'moderate christians are okay, unless they are greedy republican intoleran liars'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'only because the christians told the early hispanics....worship jesus or die.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'and thining that they are full of bat guano is not biggoted at all.... nooooo.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'sounds familiar.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'christianity is far more benighn than those semitic religions'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'apparently they tried it and found out they really liked it, else they wouldn't have become as fanatical about it as they've become.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, what can I say? When someone tells me that homosexuality is wrong because they heard a voice that told them so. I have this urge to institutionalize them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'christianity is far technologically advanced than those oriental religions'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'so to be clear... you are saying that Christians... a group that includes most of the founding fathers of the US, every sitting president since, and 80% of the US population... should be institutionalized?  good luck with that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yeah, Christian technology explains how angels fly :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'seems that god is putting a lot of work into moderate Christianity, since moderate christiantity is more benign and technologically advanced (and heterosexual)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it also explains how by looking up into the sky you can see heaven, right through the vastness of space.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'the truth is that agnostics and athiest are a very very small minority in the US... but good LORD do they have big mouths!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'aim the telescope lower, Ana, particularly if you live in the big city.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'say what you want about the current generation, but they really, absolutely know how to put on a great show.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'although recently the perverts are ruining christianity and other religions, and coincidentally asteroids and comets nearly missing the planet earth -- god may be indicating some anger'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'oh, that reminds me. The members of the 3 Crusades must have been homosexuals. I mean, with all the raping, pillaging and mass murders they committed, how could they have been anything else?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'ya... God doesn't use the 'time out'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'ya... God doesn't use the 'time out' method of discipline'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there were heterosexual perverts -- that may explain some of the crusaders'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'some?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it explains all of them.  You really don't think that many people actually found God all at the same time, right?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'though, I must admire those homosexuals, because, in spite, of their obvious predilection for same-sex partners, they forced themselves to rape all those women.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'just like all the frauds we have now, most were at best simple bandwagoneers or at worst wanting to look for a clean slate/a safer place to practice.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some sexperverts are "bisexual" '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'even trisexual -- try anything at least once'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'also called hedonists'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Roman empire was also ruined by lead poisoning'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'it is debatable whether bisexuals are ONLY perverts or not.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so you are saying that, the homosexual Crusaders, not being able to find any same-sex partners(!), opted to rape women instead as a way to satisfy their perverted sexual practices. I get your point.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'nope, you are saying (and are likely wrong)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'there were plenty of guys left, just no opportunities'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Needs must when the devil drives! :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'given the setting, you couldn't really just drop the cod and have at thee right in front of everyone, and pretty much everyone was looking for a quiet corner to get it on.  By the time the Crusades came on, sex was considered immodest.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'My obvious point is (for the mentally challenged on this panel) that Crusaders did what they did out of greed and unless you want to claim that they were almost exclusively homosexual, that their sexuality didn't matter.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Janisaries were said to be homosexual mercenaries'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mt. Craigath: 'oh dear god'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they even kicked sex out of the Church!  "Go forth and multiply" became apocryphal heresy.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yeah, imagine having to deal with perverts like Aristotle, Socrates, and Plato. Damn preverts!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'This Ferien wants to multiply with you, baby!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'or the Pope.  Popes were real hounddogs back then.  I think pimp is even derived from the latin for Pope.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'come now, Hanslanda. Give me a break.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the RCC removed married heterosexuality from the clergy -- and sexperversion resulted among the clergy, and likely attracted homosexuals to the clergy'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I would go out in a limb here and claim that perverts are more frequent among the powerful :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'another explanation is required for the predilections of the Anglican clergy'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I defence of the perverted clergy I will say that forcibly suppressing one's sexual drive can't have a good result. It has to warp the mind.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"authority" does give opportunity to those in authority'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'no, they removed sex from the church.  You couldn't do it in public, you couldn't do it in a religious ceremony (even the RCC had formalized rituals centered around fucking), and you weren't supposed to do it in ways that gave you pleasure.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'results in buddhism.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the only way to remove sexual desire is probably by performing a lobotomy :) Perhaps, that should be a requirement of the clergy :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'those perverted RCC sexual rules were likely concocted by perverse homosexuals in the RCC'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'This Ferien would like to point out, this must make the Pope a virgin!'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'but, of course, Zade. There is a secret cabal of homosexuals poised to rule the world. When they come to power castration and vaginal mutilation will be the other of the day.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the order* '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'a simpler and benign change is to permit the RCC clergy to partake in heterosexual relationships'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'ah, the Anaristos fantasy of a secret cabal of homosexuals -- tsk tsk'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'that is sick'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'eh, the Holy See isn't really all that transparent...'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the eye that looks is not transparent'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'not really all that farfetched, given where their serpents have slithered.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ferien: 'So This Ferien wonders, one of the most powerful people in the world (That Pope) Is a virgin?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'perhaps the "Holy See" is an allusion to a "Paranormal See" -- in which case very transparent, invisible, (imaginary, psychotic, nonexistent)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'several popes had been previously married, Ferien'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'some had even had children and never been married'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'originally, the Catholic church didn't oppose clergy marrying. After all, it was an offshoot of the Jewish faith, where their clergy marry.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I'm pretty sure popes were always expected to be celibate after receiving their Holy Orders'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'not at the beginning'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that came about at a later edict.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Benedict VIII is the one that instituted it in the XIth century.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'clergy, yes.  but not popes, I believe'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, so that would mean divorce then :) A contradiction :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Peter was certainly married.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'was Pope Benedict VIII a closet homosexual'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'like I said, several popes were.  But not after recieving their holy orders'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Pope Borgias'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, who would they marry? :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'they used "mistresses"'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'One pope was even the son of another pope'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'of course, priests had children.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'pope != priest'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'ah, Zade, I am sure you think all men are closet homosexuals :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'do a "Solomon": a harem of Concubines'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'while all priests are not popes, all popes are priests.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'you are wrong, Anaristos'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade is a heterosexual male
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos goes, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Then unless you meant "all priests have children", saying "(some) priests have children" doesn't have to have anything at all to do with popes'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'at any rate, the original Roman church has no quarrel with married clergy, I rather think they expected it to be the case.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'What are you calling the original roman church?  what time period?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'no, Leninei. What I meant is that by the time a priest became a pope, he was probably already married.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Only 6 ever have been'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Pope that issued the "no marriage for the clergy" edict was an abomination'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'still arguing about gay marriage'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'detractors of the RCC may use that "clergy celibacy no marriage edicts" as proof that the RCC is a fraudulent and false religion'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you are obsessed about sex :) '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'less than 1% of US population classifies themselves as farmers now :('
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the original RCC? The one established by Peter when he went to Rome.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is doubt whether the original Peter even existed (except as a poser), since the original Peter (of the keys) was based on a prior paganEgyptian mythology'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yes, we can ignore the historical evidence and go along with your theory :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I mean, what did Iosephus know?'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Peter that allegedly went to Rome was an "actor"'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Peter and Paul lead competing factions of the legacy of Jesus. So you can also claim that Paul was fictitious.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Josephus was treacherous jew and was reporting on hearsay'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Peter was likely more fictitious than Paul'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'sure :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the history according to Iosephus, not the only historian of the century, but a noted one nevertheless, clearly indicates the existence of both.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the DVDs sold in the discount bin at the supermarket clearly indicate the existence of Harry Potter'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Shut up Zade.  We all know Harry Potter isn't in the discount bins yet'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you can say the same thing of G.W. "The Bush" :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Least not here :D'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'seen a few Harry Potter in the 7.99$can plus 13%tax discount bins here'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I was just playing around Zade'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel wiggles her bottom towards Zade.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel wiggles her bottom towards a trout.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'personally, I think that George Washington as apocryphal. Never met the dude so I have to take someone's word that he existed. '
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I meant the second.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel nods at SnailBot Anaristos.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'they can, but they are usually skilled by high stat SHs, though not always.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I want to See George Washington given buffs by a SH'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'there is a random factor in the stat distribution of the skin, of course.'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '-x 30'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'abrahamo lincolni'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): *Yay!*  Go Rizgoth!!!  Queen Bee Noegel cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'btw, the Butterfly Effect 2 was a lousy movie -- lots of diluted plagiarised concepts from other supranatural fiction, and weakly done (by Michael Weiss, the author of the Butterfly Effect 2)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, the butterfly effect is not supernatural, it's a conclusion based on chaos theory :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the whole Butterfly Effect series seems predictable in plot: bad ending for the protagonist able to change the past through supranatural means by looking at a past photograph'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'bah, there are only 3 major seed companies that control the world's seed supply now....'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the "Butterfly Effect" movies are not based upon chaos theory, but based upon author bs lifting concepts from far better movies tvseries and authors'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, it currently takes 10 calories of energy to make 1 calorie of food.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if you like the eyecandy of Erica Durance, the Butterfly Effect is not that great (as eyecandy) as the movie is a series of tragedies'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Ashton Kutcher provides the male eyecandy of Butterfly Effect 1 '
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Ashton Kutcher is not hot!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Ashton Kutcher looked okay on "Two and a half Men"'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Ashton Kutcher even looks like Jesus Christ (with the proper hair and beard)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Noegel -- are you a fake female - if you say that Ashton Kutcher is not hot'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Uh, no, ask my aardspouse lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm sorry I have to follow predefined ideals of hottness'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'is Charle Sheen hot'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'LOL no!!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Ashton Kutcher looks good with short well-kempt hair'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I think he wore that once for like a week'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Bela Lugosi ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'No idea who that is... GOOGLE ACTIVATE'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I guess different chicks have different opinions about hotnoess. But who knows, women are a mystery.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'debate Nope'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I thought Nikolai Tesla was sexy lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Plus he was super intelligent badass'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Too bad he made so many fake inventions.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'He made a lot of helpful ones too, silly'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'be thankful for the nonfake inventions'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'For ever great person, there always be haters!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'No hater. Just stating a fact.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'edison was a thief.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yup'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'AC power Otta Blathy and Tesla... good enough to cover any fake inventions'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Gives them a few get out of bullshit passes for free'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if you liked Nikolai Tesla as handsome, was Adolf Hitler handsome   (ducks)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Hitler was more handsome before he got stressed and crazy'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Plenty of scientiests made fake science in their careers (Recommend: Bad Science by Ben Goldacre).'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But he really needed to lose the stash'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'like the earth being round....i mean come on....every bible thumper knows that is heresay!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I dunno what women think, but I doubt anyone would find hitler physically attractive. However, he probably got laid as much as he wanted, women like men of power.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, he had to get syphilis from somewhere.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Syphillis might be a deal breaker lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And I was talking hitler in his way younger years.  Leadership really messes up a mans complexion'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Need some oil of olay or something in Berlin'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the book "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" stated that the syphilus came from a jewish girl'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol what a tool herr hitler'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Adolf originally liked the jews, then turned against the jews -- may've been the syphilus'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'That and he needed scapegoats.  People are really good at blaming other people for their issues.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'When did he like the jews? I've never heard that. '
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'payback is an irony'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the documentary (series on History channel H2) "Ten things you did not know" about Adolf Hitler '
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Is that on now??'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'History is playing a historical documentary wtf'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'in February 2013'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'BTW, anyone read "The rise and fall of the third reich" by william shirer. It seems to be the "bible" on hitler... it's on my reading list.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You lied to me'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Americam Pickers is on :/'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I'll have to check that one out, Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if germany hadnt attacked the soviet union....they probably could have extended the war much much longer'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I think the key mistake was when japan attacked the US. If they had kept the US out of the war longer, it might have made a difference. Like, if they had managed to take south america first.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Rizgoth absolutely.  The invasion of the Soviet Union was a catastrophic strategic mistake'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'modern medicine kills 225,000 americans each year.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Nazis attacking the Soviet Union was a big mistake'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'how many does it save?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Heck of a lot more'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Probably 5-10 million'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Nazis declaring war against the USA (after Pearl Harbor) was a huge mistake'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol shows no matter how awesome you are as a strategist on the battlefield... just a couple of mistakes will ruin your campaign'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Adolf Hitler respecting the English was a bad mistake'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Speaking from experience from my Command and Conquer days lol  because you know, that's relevent!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'What do you mean, Zade?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'In axis and allies, it's easier to take moscow than london....'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: '(Europe edition at least)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol it is here too'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade is not ready to change the past (and cease to exist) by suggesting how Hitler may've won the war
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Haven't played that game since I was a little girl'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My dad thought that was a little girls idea of a fun game'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Tell us Zade!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'watching a docu that explains how cooking food is bad for your health....and that at least 51% of your food should be raw.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'cooking increases bioavailability and kills pathogens'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: '50.4% is still bad?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Leinei, how dare you suggest that! curses'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I could understand if it is less nutrious to cook... but I can't see how it is "bad"'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Depends on food. Cooked cabbage is better, cooked raspberry, probably not.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'heat destroys vitamin c, and heat also destroys protein causing your body to work harder to utilize it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I think a mix is good, but you have to adapt to the food.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'elderly folk require disease free raw vegetables '
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'luckily vitamin C is incredibly easy to acquire, and heat does exactly the opposite of make your body work harder to acquire protein'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, that is why food experts say half cooked, half raw.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'll take my cancer cooked, thank you'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'If unsure, I just do what people did 100k years ago. Half-n-half seems like a good idea.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'Hey, look who it is again'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'me too, I love steak....and I could care less if it causes my body to work harder then eating a glass of algae. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'sounds like this show you're watching is full of bullshit'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'where's shanon and ferien'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I like if my body has to work to get nutrients out of the food. It makes me full longer.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Ferien is cooking and Shanon is probably being dirty somewhere'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'As long as there are no irritants in the food, working hard is good for the body.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Agree Ranrr.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'So, working hard to digest beef is good, working hard to digest gluten is bad.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'you know that nearly all body odor is caused by preservatives in food?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, medium rare steak, steamed broccoli with cheese sauce, and boiled carrots....'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'No, it's caused by bacteria on your skin.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Rare steak!  And boiled carrots.... meh'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'fenugreek is not a preservative'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: '=j 3-'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'that sounds so good right now roz'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'garlic is not a preservative'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'or riz'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'your mother is not a preservative'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'yet she makes me smelly?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Fiendish speaks the truth.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, I can see some of this info in the docu being good, but most of seems full of shit.....cooking food can't be bad, since it makes alot of foods easier to digest.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'sounds like quite the finedish'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and if you areworried about vitamins and minerals...take a damn vitamin.....'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'most americans get more than the daily recommended dose of vitamins and minerals each day anyways....'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Vitamins are infused with nanobots the government uses to spy on you! *truth*'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'bloody tap water'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Since we have been cooking food for at least a million years, we are adapted to it. Eating everything raw would probably be a bad idea. Not to mention that a lot of the foods we eat (and have eaten since paleo times) are poisonous without cooking.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Here's an idea: As long as your food is natural without chemicals, it's best to eat it however you like it prepared!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'plus the food doesnt sit in our stomachs all that long, unlike other animals.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'predigesting the food would be good....'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Saurkraut ftw!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oladon: 'I totally read that as "prestidigitating the food would be good"'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Predigesing lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'but if you get your food with Montezumas Revenge (from Mexico or South America) ...'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'DIAHREA'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'Need an extra hand in the kitchen?  Mage hand!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Erie: 'get that pepto bismo'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'pepto bismal sounds like a cure worse than the disease'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I use the capsules so you don't have to taste it'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'they have capsules now? We live in the future'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the ingredients, not the taste, is the scary part of pepto bismal'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'My stomach cure is fibre and saurkraut. Always works.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'commercial fancy aspirin was converted to a poison by all the excipients in and coatings on the aspirin'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'regular non coated aspirin rules.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'decided to watch an IMAX docu on the ring of fire volcanic system instead....that raw food propaganda docu was depressing.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'but if everybody uses fibee and sauerkraut, won't be long until a "fibre and sauerkraut" resistant stomach disease happens along'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm,there are a little over 400 active volcanoes along the ring of fire.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Well, Zade, i think we already have a few actually. Doubt it will kill e.g. botulism.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'helicobacter pyloris, e coli '
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade suspects that helicobacter pyloris is becoming resistant to cayenne redpepper (as more and more use redpepper in North America)
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'anyone know the worlds tallest mountain ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Depends on how you define tall.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'seems pretty simple, tallest mountain on earth.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'not so simple'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'then name both of them, the tallest one from the ocean floor, and the one from sea level.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'by most measures, mt. everest'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'a high mountain in the ocean is called an island...'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'though it's only the fifth tallest if you measure from the center of the earth'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mauna kea is the tallest mountain/volcano in the whole world.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'from the ocean floor.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'any way lots of people think that K2 is higher than Everest.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'how are you defining "ocean floor"?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'let me understand something. If you stand at a peak and your altitue is 7 Km. doesn't matter where the bottom is, you are still at 7 Km altitude.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'And why did you ask, and allege that is was a simple question, if you didn't think you were going to agree with the answer?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Sure, but just because I am at a high altitude, doesn't make me taller.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'it does if you spend a lot of time there, actually'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'someone that is 5'6" standing in colorado isn't taller than I am'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'depends on where the base of the object is defined'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'if the altitude where you are is the highest altitude you can reach by foot (whatever that means), then you are at the highest landmark.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'and how are you measuring altitude to begin with?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'higher altitudes are farther from the center of the earth, so have a slightly weaker gravitational pull. under lower gravity your vertebrae will space farther apart and you will be taller'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'by barometric pressure :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos rapidly nods twice at The Jerk Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'That's a poor way to measure it, considering the earth isn't completely round.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the earth is not round at all :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'pressure is also a terrible way to measure altitude'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Well, I might be old fashioned but altitude in my book is the height of an object in reference to sea level'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yes, but that's arbitrary. Since sea leavel fluctuates.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'level*'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'pacific or atlantic, high or low tide'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so does the sea bottom, for that matter.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'The old definition of "tallest mountain" was based from the center of the eart. It was changed... some 150 years ago or something iirc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I've been on private aircraft where the altimeter was calibrated to MSL. It was scary to land at -20 feet :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I remember something called Global Mean Sea Level is what they use I believe'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'If I pick up a 6-inch rock from my backyard, and go place it on the top of mount everest, then you're saying that single rock is the tallest mountain in the world.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Which is updated over time'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'in fact, the pilot actually stuck his head out of the window to land :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'on K2, Leinei :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'K2 is not the tallest, just the most dangerous.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'by what measure is K2 the tallest?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'it's not the highest above sea level, it's not the highest from the surrounding features, and it's not the farthest from the centre of the earth'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you will get an argument about that, but not by me, since I am not an expert. From what I understand, the definition was changed and K2 came out on top.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the used a satellite and lasers to measure.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I'm not making an argument about what measure *should* be used'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I just want to know what one was'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'neither am I, I am saying the used space-based laser measurements and K2 came out on top :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'on top of what?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'as the highest mountain'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'List of tallest mountains, I'd wager'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'it wouldn't have been the closest to the lasers, if the lasers were in orbit around the arth'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'radar would have worked just as well'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'My neighbor's mother's cousin said the hill across the streen is the tallest mountain the world.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'that doesn't make it true'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I'm not asking what tools they used to measure it'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so they made a mistake when estimating the height of mount Everest'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I'm asking what measurements they used'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I can't argue one way or the other, I am just repeating what I've read.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'read where?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'and I'll go read it, and perhaps it'll be more informative'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Nasa Geo team reports. I read about it a while back.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'at NASA.gov'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'is Sir Edmund Hillary going to be erased from the history books because K2 is higher than mount Everest'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'The word Kilimanjaro doesn't appear anywhere on nasa geo's website'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: '2,330 times on nasa.gov's'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, I am not going to look it up again. It was a random read during a random search. But I do remember reading it. You can disregard what I said, though. No problem.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Shrugs, I've named the only three measures that I've seen, and by none of them is K2 the ultimate.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I'm just curious as to what other measures there are'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'K2 has a cooler name, tho :D'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'in fact, it's not even close'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'unless you measure from the earth's center'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'then it's still 4th, but it's a lot closer'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'perhaps Anaristos is conjecture trolling'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'and that's only because it's close to the equator'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'how many feet or metres is the difference in length between the equatorial distance, and the polar distance, to the centre of the planet'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: '42.72 km (26.54 mi)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'well, that's diameter'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'so, half of that'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'And thus Mount Chimborazo is the fartest from the center of the earth, rather than everest'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'mountain height is not measured from the centre of the planet'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Easter is a satanic lie. The real Easter is about the Lord Jesus Christ and his coming back from the dead to save us all.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'wow, the mortality rate at K2 is 20%. That means if you go in  group of 5, one won't return. No way you get me to climb.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I only provided that as one of several possible measurements'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'There's also a 3-4% difference in gravity at the poles than at the equator'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Sorry, but neither satan nor jesus exist. False argument, there.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'oh, sorry, 0.3-0.4%'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'math fail'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Easter is about the pagan mythology of chocolate easter eggs and chocolate bunnies'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Leinei I was going to say lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Jesus did exist Ranrr.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'at 4% difference it would have been the world's greatest tourist attraction :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Jesus Christ is a mythology'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'And if satan does not exist I'd like you to prove it. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'There was a historical Jesus, Zade. Do the research.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Maybe he did, maybe not. But his life, as described, is taken from the description of the god Ra, thousands of years before. Which most likely is made up, as well.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yeah, Jesus was a man.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'absence of evidence can most certainly mean evidence of absence.  that's a poor saying.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Yes Anaristos. Wheather he is your messiah or not is up to you. But he was a real person.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, his life was embellished somewhat by Paul, who had his own agenda.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the historical Jesus died around 90 bc'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'There were probably more than 1 carpenter called jesus at that time.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and Constantine did a lot to increase the myth :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'I thought jesus died  around bce 33?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the mythical Jesus was born around 6 bc to 6 ad averaged to 0 AD'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'yes, Jesus was a popular name.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so wa Miriam (Mary)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Jesus has a nice beard'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'so give or take what I said? :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the mythical Jesus christ died around 33 AD'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Oh yea rocked the beard'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and the bluest eyes you can imagine. Such a model of ethnicity :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, 33 AD is probably wrong, more likely around 31 AD'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'we can calibrate the time of his death since Jerusalem was destroyed around 41 AD'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'where mythology is comcerned, a couple of years is debatable er moot'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, if I ever went to a star trek convention and was going to wear a star trek uniform....I would at least have a tailored one made.....show a little respect for yourselves people!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '70 AD'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Jerusalem was razed around 70 AD'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you know, as I said before. I have to take the existence of George Washington as fact simply because I am told he existed. I have no problem accepting that Jesus also existed by the same reasoning.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Which uniform from which series of star trek?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'It really doesn't matter when some carpenter lived. He didn't do anything important anyway, except, possibly, start a cult. But, most likely, that cult was started by someone else.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'sorry, then. Forget 41 AD :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is no religion concerning George Washington, so the historical evidence is likely to be more factual'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Sounds like religion makes Ranrr MAD.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Way to downplay history Ranrr'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Wasn't some slight possible of mention in the Roman records?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'nothing really indicates from the literature that Jesus was instituting a religious movement separate from Judaism. His chief aim was to become High Priest and King, thus combining the two high offices of Israel.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'no wonder then'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Caesar did the same thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Isoephus ( c. 100AD) mentions him. From the oral histories of those who were alive when Jesus died.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the only contemporaneous gospel would be that of John, the rest of the gospels were written by people who never met Jesus. '
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is no historical nonchristian evidence that Jesus Christ existed, except for the hearsay reported by (Eusebius through) Josephus'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'I heard the book of John is the most academic? Cany anyone confirm?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'omg, a star trek transvestite......seen everything now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so what you are saying that way back then there was as conspiracy to plant a fake Jesus in our midst 2100 years later.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'wow you need more cons in your life'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the gospel of John reads like Egyptian mythology'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so, so he was out of his mind, what does that have to do with anything?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'I think you could of sold the Book of John no better than saying egyption mytholgy'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the histories of what happened on 9/11/2001 reads like mythology also.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Been kicking around idea of actually reading bible, just because a man wasn't consider educated without reading it. And damnit I want to adhere to dated ideas'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Oh man did you read the report?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Christianity is a modified version of ancient Egyptian mythology'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Zade is trying to imply that there was a conspiracy to defraud future generations.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'it read like a novel initially I literally double checked it to make sure I got the original'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'and not a novel'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'In this debate: Atheisim= being enlightened'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'Not the same thing'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'See I'm agnostic'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'now, such conspiracy did seem to exist, but Constantine was behind it. He was the one who ordered the religion based on Jesus to be normalized..'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Anaristos is trolling by attempting to put false words into alleged inferences by others'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crystia: 'But what did Paul want? He was really pushing Christianity, his version.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'it is not falce, though the Council on Nicea, in 325 AD, Constantine shaped the religion we all now as Catholicism today.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'false*'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'know*'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'night, Wolfe :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some of those spreading Christianity were attemping to defraud the then current populace -- the intent to defraud later generations came later'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'so why is that surprising and why does that imply that Jesus didn't exist. The man was dead, what it was done in his name was hardly his responsibility.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there was money fame etcetera in religions back then - by the Constantine era there were at least umpteen versions of each sacripture (as reported by somebody back then)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, if you bother to look it up, you will learn that Constantine chose the Catholic church as the official one. Not for religious reasons, but for political reasons. Precisely because there were umpteen religions.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Was there ever an official "answer" whether the previous pope is still infallible now that he stepped down?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that fact is reflected in the deviations that occurred in the church which previously adhered to the standards of Judaism (after all, the Catholics of Rome were Jews). The changes reflected their desire to please Constantine.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'The Pope is only infallible when he speaks regarding Church dogma. Since he no longer does that he does not need to be  infallible :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'if this was politics we'd be calling those weael words :D'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'weasel*'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and that idea of infallibility only date only dates back to the late 1860s'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Anything I could lookup relating to the change in infaliability?  Sounds interesting or just the obvious lmgtfy'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'look up Pius IX :) At that time the church was having a crisis of faith. That is how it was resolved :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karang: 'Do you think the Federation as a Type 2 Civ and the empire from star wars a Type 3?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I like The Culture myself :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'pfft'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'hmph'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'meh'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'most sanity in a debate conversation in months'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'so there'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dardezael is on a divine mission from 'God' Hoo-Ha.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'monsanto act passed into law, montsanto cannot now be prosecuted as a result of harm caused by their GMO products. Their milk-boosting additive for cows also causes milk with puss and blood from the huge tumors it causes to grow'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'food aid given to africa is in the form of montsanto seeds that lock poor farmers into license agreements with montsanto, making them even more dependant'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the milk boosting additive causes madcow disease.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'causes tumors at least'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't want milk with blood and puss in it thanks'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, if it did....it wouldnt be white.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'the current gossip discussion should be in THIS channel'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you know where that's going to lead.  Several kids inking it with the word "Power" on it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'hehe, yahoo has a caption for one of their stories that reads "Couple upset over pot raid".'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You would think if you got raided it is understood the criminal party would be... well, upset!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'did they have pot?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they had several pots, they build a hydroponic station for starting seedlings for their garden.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and now they've got a receipt that says "No items taken"'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'unjustified fishing expeditions by police sb illegal'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Obvious fact, Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You are now the troll! Finally!'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Noegel is trolling about others allegedly trolling'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'hothouse hydroponic vegetables (when missing rare minerals in the nutrient mix) are likely not as healthy as ground-grown vegetables'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I was grown in a lab too Zade.  They implanted a flagellum on my "chin"'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Personal PIC: http://library.thinkquest.org/27819/media/nucleus_flagella.gif'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Noegel, that sick repeated sexual innuendo is going to get you put on ignore eventually'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Unfortunately, it's not a sexual innuendo...'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Otherwise, I would go into detail on curse.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'debate 48   curse 66  -- larger audience on curse'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Thanks for the stat?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Stewing your food is unhealthy.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'why?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'jesus I do it all the time am i gonna die?'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I don't know.  I've been up for 24 hours and it was debated like 7 different times'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm just being a troll'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'Oh.  I like my crock pot.'
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'please don't take that away from me too, maaan - it's all I got!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, if you are not going to be human, then you want -1 on dex and str. As in triton.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'thanks to ethanol, the price of cereal has gone up over 50% in the last few years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Good, maybe it will make people buy real food instead.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I'm sure that Cesar Chavez was a great guy, but why is google featuring him on Easter?  Are they TRYING to irritate Christians?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't visit google normally, but i just went, nothing to do with him on there'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'US or Europe?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'europe'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'might be reginal... he's an american'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'you know how they cometimes have the stylized "Google" logo?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'power to the unions!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'go to bed, rizgoth'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'save your job!  Join a union!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'screw unions'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'never feel a need to preform at your job again!  join a union'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Soledad O'Brien is shit'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'force your job off-shore!  join a union!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'she doesn't seem to have twigged that "independant fact checkers" and media companies (CNN) aren't politically neutral'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Sounds like someone needs a history lesson.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'destroy the company that pays your wages!  join a union!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'unionize walmart!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'oh sure, and Costco is ruined because it is unionized.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'DOWN with the "low price garentee"!  join a union!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'scrap your supermarket, buy locally'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'low price my ass, you pay for it in lack of quality and service.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'whenever costco and sams club go head to head in a city....costco wins.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'unions had a place in US history - zero debate there.  but today, it's all about greed... worker greed against corperate greed... but still greed'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'worker greed is just as bad because it often comes with lack of understanding of responsibility'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'costco opened up 2 stores in the houston area, and the starting wage is $2 per hour more then sams club.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and you get a good health care plan.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'since when have fireworks been "vice"s?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh,headline: Germany spends $110bn to delay global warming by 37 hours'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'costco also gives a 5% discount for EBT'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what's EBT?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'NM.. that's regional, not corperate'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'EBT = food stamps'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'should ban EBT'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: '<nod>'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I mentioned it as a detractor'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'russia to ban adoptions by foreign gay couples'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'when you have to look to russia for moral compass, my irony meter just broke'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'coldest easter sunday here in over 53 years'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no public documentation to suggest Barack Obama went to Columbia University 1981-1985'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'birther 2.0?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'just wondering why there are so many complications'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'probably because most schools don't have public listings of alum rosters'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'odd that he's not in any yearbooks, classbooks, classmates don't recall him'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Because he is an alien robot sent from the future to destroy americans by giving them healthcare?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm tempted to believe the theory that he was there as a foreign exchange student because his folks hadn't bothered changing his status after moving back to hawaii from Indionesia - why? funding and access benefits'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'secret muslim gay alien robot, ranrr'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I would never consider being in a college yearbook...getting your picture taken yearly is a normal part of elementary/high school life, college was just sign up and go to class...never "did stuff" as a class,no class trips, socials, etc'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'when they went to do college yearbooks, I was absent. they charged for that shit.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i find it bizarre that publishing tax returns should be seen as necessary qualification for a potential president, yet you shouldn't publish your qualifications'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'college isn't a qualification'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'life experience is'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're my surgeon for the day? glad to see your filed your tax returns up to do, let's do this'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nonsense'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you don't learn to be a good surgeon in medical school'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, abe, but it would be nice to know that you went and qualified'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you learn to be a good surgeon by being on staff at a hospital'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can have the unqualified surgeon then ;-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I'd take an unqualified over an inexperienced anyday'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's what richard griffiths said'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'which is why experienced midwifes are sought after'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Fortunately, I live in a country where healthcare is available even if you're poor, so I'll take a trained and experienced surgeon, thank you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): *Yay!*  Go Ranrr!!!  Tigernuts cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'everyone better move there, then'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'well, the doctors I went to see had their diploma on the wall, not the transcript'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Well, healthcare is only available if you are a legal resident, not illegal. Big debate going on, tho.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'are doctors are free, their treatments are not, and the waiting times looong'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Not free, financed by taxes.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'That does make it cheaper than financed by insurance companies, though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'cheaper, less available'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Not really, no.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'really yes'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Source?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'metered by cost/postcode/ideology'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'only less available because there are no controlls on how it is used.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i fucking live here is the source'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'You live in sweden?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the first 2 visits are no cost, after that you pay a visit fee.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'UK'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Yeah, but the uk is bankrupt, no wonder your healthcare sucks.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'people who go to doctors for sniffles are the ones who freaking slow things up.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'right, and when it's totally free people bugger off to the doctor super-fast'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and the UK healthcare system isnt exactly the best govt run system out there.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and living on the US/Canadian border was a good source...watching a ton of Canadians come to the US for healthcare'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no such thing as a best govt run system'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the two things are mutually exclusive'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'there should at least be a minimal fee for frequent visits that aren't occuring because the doctor said 'please come back in a week''
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Germany does it quite well, so does Japan.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Seltsimees Dagnir: 'yeah, privatise the military!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'see, that's the thing I don't get...most people who have full healthcare coverage still don't bother going to the doctor...so why does that change when it's non-premium-paid healthcare coverage'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Most hospitals and doctors in sweden are private, it's just paid for by government.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we routinely get german doctors, they're very good at murdering people'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'cheap health care services with a low cap is ok, and only leads to moderate overconsumption (depending on how you arrange access to specialist services)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I doubt people overconsume health care when it is tax financed. More likely to do if you are paying a shitload for insurance. I thinks.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'UK/USA could never afford German healthcare'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'some do and some don't, ran'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Sure, that's probably true no matter how it's financed.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'usually even when you pay for insurance you have a copay (of like ten bucks or something) per visit'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, Japan uses the copay system quite well, and all the prices are the same regardless of the clinic or hospital you go to.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Same in sweden. It's like 15 euro or so.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'UK hospitals have a nice habit of letting patients dehydrate to death'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it seems that the US finds the most efficient way to do healthcare, and then applies the exact opposite.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and 3x the cost.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'at least you don't have death panels, and can get treated if you need it'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'I think US healthcare is the most expensive, but quality wise, it's like on place 37 (don't remember where I read this).'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there's no silver bullet, no ideal system, someone gets screwed whatever system you adopt'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the only thing expensive about the US healthcare system is lawsuits'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'otherwise everyone would be using the same system'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'The legal system is a big part of this too, I suppose.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I am in favor of reasonable tort reform.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i like torts, especially apple ones'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i think everyone should pay/have paid contributions into a health account that could be drawn on'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'together with sensible caps on costs of things to create a standard'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then people can have health insurance on top of that if they need'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'yeah, and retirement accts have been so successful on that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Just sounds more complicated than just a regular tax system.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the avg 401k has 26,000 in it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then people haven't put enough in them'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ranrr: 'Even insurance is just basically a tax system, it's just an opt-in tax system.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'maybe 401k isn't a very good way to save?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: '..I never paid attention to US pension tax breaks'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'or pension contribution'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'most people my age won't have a pension of any meaningful size'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '401k (or my 403b) is savings from pre-tax dollars, nothing taxed until you withdraw, so it's a good way to do it taxwise'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the theory is you don't withdraw until you're old and don't get tax penalties'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's the theory with private pensions here'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the issue is, despite all the advertising that government puts out to get people to save for their old age, they've forgotten one fact'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'due to epic incompentance on behalf of successive governments since the war, the cost of living in the UK is so damned high that no ordinary person can afford to save for a decent pension'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I know in Norway, even with pension contributions being from untaxed income, management fees have made pension savings inferior to plain fund investment, at least for anyone under 50 or so'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'most employers who have company-run 401k/ira plans do a matching contribution...everyone should at least contribute the max-match amount (usually 5%)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'with the exception of some quite limited (2-4%) contributions to compulsory employer funded pensions'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yeah, I've only done employer-sponsored plans, so I've never paid management fees'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'and I'm allowing for that exception because I haven't checked the fee structure'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'employer-sponsored pensions have management fees'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'typically'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'not typically paid by the employees'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'typically comes out of the pension pot, so yes, they do'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there is no pension pot'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'we're not talking about pensions, we're talking about savings accounts'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we were talking about pensions, which are contributions that are typically used to buy units in funds'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'pensions don't exist...'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I have a vested pension for which I've paid nothing ever (just 10 years of my life)...but they're nearly extinct, and pretty much no company offers them to non-grandfathered employees'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're talking about defined-benefit schemes then'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'of course they now don't exist except for the 1%, they're unfundable'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'which is why IRAs have become popular...401k used to be mostly a supplement to pension, so you'd have a pension and a 401k...currently it's IRA and 401k, both of which are non-pension retirement savings accounts'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the 1% don't have them'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'biggest thing they can do to help pensioners is reduce the cost of living'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'which they won't do because they want to dominate everyone and keep them in indentured servitude'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'anyone who flees the plantation gets arrested'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd need to put 40% of my salary away in pension until i retire in order to get a pension of 25% of my salary, and thats assuming that it grows sufficiently to match real terms inflation (which is unlikely)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if it grows sufficiently to match inflation, then I'd question your math'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'don't question the maths, question the assumptions'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'nah, the only important assumption was given'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what is more likely is that the bond and market bubble is going to burst, it's going to fuck up pensions, and currencies will be devalued, making an already dire situation for people even worse'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hopefully that will cause enough friction for people to turn on the bankers'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Obama signs executive order to create a commission to look at "nationalising elections administration"'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'pesky states causing you hassle by voting in non-democrat party members? do away with the hassle of having to cheat the electorate by moving control to the feds!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why can't there be background checks without registration?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'there already are.  Granted, private citizens have to cover the costs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why can't there be, nationally'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they even have whole websites designed to facilitate them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'for example, I needed a leaky faucet fixed so I paid for a background check on the plumber.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that doesn't really help check suitability for gun ownership'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't know why nobody is suggesting a national gun license scheme'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i guess your government is just fucked up by ridiculous partisanship paid for and pushed by vested interest'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'what government isn't?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well there you go, get rid of them all'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: 'wish it was so easy tiger'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'what have the romans ever done for us?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'roads'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'aside from the roads?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'aqueducts?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'aside from the roads and aqueducts? '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Dispel Majic's head.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'sanitation?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'pensions'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doh, no'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'irrigation, medicine, education, health...and the wine'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'public baths'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'and they certainly knew how to keep the general order'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the Romans had an organization fetish.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'keep public order, conquer a place, kill all men down to age 5'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'according to DHS memo, direction has been given that allow DHS to, without a warrant, search bank safety deposit boxes and confiscate any documents, gold, coins. It will be illegal for a bank worker to even inform the box owner of the search/seizure'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in other news, Italy's banks are seeing billions of euros flee the country'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'annd Obama booed at NCAA Elite 8 game in DC'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, he can join George Osbourne who got booed at the olympics'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'Oh, if black scientists claimed that blacks were intellectually inferior to whites, you wouldn't argue the point. But since whites are making the claim, you move to support them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'that was pretty random'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'what's the issue?  I feel like this debate has been going for a while, yet the cahnel history is silent for the past 1.5 ours'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'it's on immtalk'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'thanks for the intel'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Tigernuts, where did you get that info that the DHS is violating the USa constitution by unjustified search and seizure without warrant and without notification'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'seems like a "carte blanche" for some in the DHS to rob anybody in the USA that they want on a whim'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I imagine that some of it likely comes from the patriot act'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'perhaps Tigernuts is pushing for a groundswell to impeach Barack Obama for treason and violation of the constitution of the USA'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Butterfly cascade effect'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'I thought he was in england'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you can show, for one, who can IQ tests can be objective :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'not sure where Tigernuts resides, with that anti-Democrat sentiment'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'not sure of Tigernuts position on guns either: "pro-guns for the populace" but "nationally registered" (so they know where to confiscate) -- that's a contradiction'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'not exactly... it's more 'appoligentic"... and perhaps a bit nieve'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'the beliefe being that once they know where the guns are, that they will never abuse that information.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'not at the instant of cloning. Or are you going to claim that the cloning process alters the result?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ronda: '-'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'You are right, Kojiro. When a white criminal runs from the police he (white women don't commit crimes :>) gets caught.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'following this Debate conversation below SH is like the whole immtalk channel is on ignore'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'agreed'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'and every once in a great while, the 'ignore' filter fails and lets slip a single, disconnected and out of context comment'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'so far, Anaristos is looking kinda dumb.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'but like I said... it's all out of context'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Tigernuts is in England, yes'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts THWAPS Vonliege for being a moron.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'For Vonliege (if he's still about) i'll make clear the idea. A gun owner license should be like a driving license - you apply to get one upon reaching adulthood, contingent upon having passed certain safety training and having proved you have appropriate storage. You pay you county a small yearly fee to maintain this registration and you update it when you move house (subject to a recheck for storage) It could have three levels, basic, advanced, dealer, to give some granularity in training requirements. You could add concealed and open carry flags on it as appropriate'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'It could have three statuses, "active, suspended, revoked". Suspended licenses would mean you can't buy/sell or carry in public, but could still have guns at home. Revoked would only be possible for those who a court has decided are psychotic'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'The key thing is, you don't register the guns, you register the owner, so having a list wouldn't help the feds, since in such a case, probably half the country would have a license'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'what about those too poor to pay the yearly fee '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you're too poor to pay a $10 fee, you can't afford ammo or the gun'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'wrong, Tigernuts'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'street guns are more popular in that set, Zade.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can argue the same about a driving license'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the fee should be set such that it just covers the cost of any paperwork, nothing more'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'plus, no background checks or limits on selection.  If you can pay for it, you can get it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'easy for a seller to check the license to see it's appropriate'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'to be hassled every year to pay a registration fee to be able to own a fire-arm is annoying'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'probably would be easy to fake, too'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'every year? every 2 years, 5 years, however often would be sensible'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's more to keep track of address changes than anything'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'could even make it a rider on a drivers license or some other existing id card.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's not perfect, but it's still better than what you have, and better than anything that is being suggested by your politicians'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'i prefer owning fire-arms with "no hassle" and "no threat of confiscation"'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you already don't have that now, zade'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'and how many fire-arms i own or have: "none of your business"'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and that would still be the case under a license scheme'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'since you're not tracking gun ownership'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I like being in a state that doesn't require a license to own :-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'i'm lazy, and i dislike paying for the right to be armed'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'a driving license does not track how many cars you own, or what type, only dictates what qualification you have for driving one'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i dislike having to pay a license fee for owning a computer, but i still have to do it'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or watching tv'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or driving'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'sucks to live in the UK then'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i dislike having to buy insurance for my car whether i like it or not :-)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'we do none of those except driving'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you would rather pay full price for repairs?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it looks like the watered down gun bill with just background checks will get the boot... republicans are looking to boot it'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'even if the accident wasn't your fault?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the DMV analogy is flawed: there are (1) driver's licence, (2) the vehicle registration, (3) the vehicle insurance, (4) the vehicle towing insurance, (5) emissions test  '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'vehicle towing insurance?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'not all states require insurance or emissions'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'insurance that covers your own damage is not mandatory, hans'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'a vehicle is usuall used frequently, a fire-arm may simply be unused for decades'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I've never had collision/comprehensive/etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'however, if you are going to require insurance as being mandatory to drive, i feel the guvmint should be providing a minimal insurance at no profit'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'even worse, you would rather pay full price to fix someone else's car?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i wouldn't drive into it'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'between fog, rain, and wintry weather, you can't at all guarantee that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nothing's guaranteed, but no claims in my 17year driving career'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'kinda misses the point as usual though, we're talking about whether something is compulsory or not'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'car towing insurance -- car breaks down, the car is towed to where the vehicle may be repaired or stored -- around 100$ per year'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i happily buy car insurance on the grounds that i'm now of sufficient age that it isn't highway robbery'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'however i feel for the young who suffer at the hands of insurance companies that have an enforced monopoly'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'too many people would be causing wrecks, without the money to pay for the other person's damages.  then nobody wins'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'jesus christ, so now you want high-risk drivers to be able to forgo insurance so that you have to pay full price for repairs to your car that weren't even your fault?!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'in a rural district, a car is almost mandatory'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope, i want there to be, within a forced monopoly, to be a state provider to provide a minimal cost option for no-profit'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in the case of young drivers this would be a policy that would be 3rd party only'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'in a City, a car is not required, but getting a decent job may be more difficult'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'hmm, so lemme get this straight.  You want folks to be able to choose not to buy insurance but in the case where they choose not to they still have to buy insurance?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if that's your idea of straight, i shudder to think what your idea of crooked is'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'government gets money from the people.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it was pretty clear: If a government is going to make insurance MANDATORY, then it should provide a non-profit least cost option'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'otherwise, make it optional and let people sort themselves out'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and someone is going to have to pay for it.  Helloooooo, taxes!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'not sure how much cheaper it would even be.  Still gotta pay the salaries of the people running the insurance.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it can be self-funding, hans'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'nothing is ever self-funded'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: '"non-profit" doesn't always mean cheap'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'just look at hospitals'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'hospitals are not self-funded, they get money from the government, too.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the other option you've got is scrapping all the existing gun laws as is'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wonder how much money you guys could save by dismantling DHS'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'and increase unemployment '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can't solve unemployment by having government hire all the people'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'a large percentage of the population of India are bureaucrats that do very little other than be bureaucrats -- somebody calculated that the bureaucrats were totally redundant, and the whole bureacracy was a welfare scheme for bureaucrats'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's entirely believable if the UK government is anything to go by, also India has one of the most corrupt governments of any modernised nation'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, US banks made a profit of $32 billion from overdraft fees in 2012.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Banks are into Robbery'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'While I am an advocate of not overspending... overdraft fees shouldn't be $20 per transaction'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Maybe when you are a new member, but if you are a member for years, I would dumb it down to like $20 a day'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'some.. many.... err most banks are highway robbery'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'mine charges $1.50-$5 a day for being overdrawn'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I mean, if someone comes across hard times and needs some bank help for a day before payday, they should be charged so much'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Nice, tigernuts'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Mine is $20 per swipe'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol like this girl on the news the other day was charged almost $1,200 in overdraft for $30 worth of transactions'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Shouldn't have bought 120 individual pieces of gum.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's why you have an overdraft arrangement that you then proceed to never use'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Leinei sometimes a woman just needs 120 pieces of gum.... ok yeah you're right'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'that was blatant fraud on the part of the Bank, charging 1200$'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Well, it isn't fraud'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'She agreed to it'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what about "confiscating" 60% of the bank balance and giving it to the bank for working capital?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Con artist (using Noegel logic) "that was not fraud, the mark agreed to being duped."'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But the bank tells you beforehand that they are going to take your money if you mess up'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'looks like sound logic to me'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'There is no fraud'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'people 'opt in' for overdraft protection....you dont HAVE to accept it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'used to be required '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'They tell you if you mess up, they are going to take X dollars for every X transactinos'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'well, depending on the bank, of course'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'don't mess up, then'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Pretty basic.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'but overdraft protection costs extra'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Even without overdraft protection, most banks will send you text messages'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My bank doesn't charge for overdraft protection'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'if you overdraft'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what is overdraft protection?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel is agreeing with that Leinei person again...
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My bank doesn't charge for overdraft protectionscalp'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'If you go into negative dollasrs, the bank will charge you money.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it does if you make a transaction and cannot pay it....if you had opted in.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'overdraft protection == when you dont have enough money in your bank to cover a transaction - instead of declining it, they pay it, putting your account in to the negative, and charging you a service fee in addition to the amount paid'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'if you didnt opt in, your transaction does not go through, and it says denied at the register.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'tiger: basically insurance against overdraft...the free ones are usually "we'll move balance from another account", the paid ones are basically an adhoc loan'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's where the bank will guarantee your payment to whomever it was going for instead of rejecting the transaction for insufficient funds.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Bank is defrauding customers by overcharging overdraf and  not simply stating "No funds available, transaction denied"'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'pfeh, overdrafts are a standard feature of accounts here'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'ZADE!  You can cancel overdraft'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'then don't get overdraft protection'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'That's not fraud, zade.. especially when the alternative is a bounced check and a service charge for that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'It's the law'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they don't "cost" anything to have, only to use'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'giggle* checks'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the service charge for a bounced check is what, less than the overdraft gouge'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'You wish.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'smart people use a credit card anyways....and pay it off with 1 bank check each month.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the only accounts that don't have overdraft facilities tend to be the ones given to tards, chavs, and bums'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yes, Zade, but people don't use checks anymore.  A denied debit card charge is zero'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i use checks'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'By people don't use anymore, I mean an enormous majority'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not often, granted, but i still use em'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'lots of people still use checks.  Payroll, cashier's, traveller's, etc.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I have used one check during my short adult life, and it was for a deposit on my first apartment'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if they phase them out (been threatening it) i'll switch to cash for those transactions i would have used checks for'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Cashier's and travelers checks aren't daily use items.  Cashier's checks don't get denied either since they are guaranteed'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'checks aren't going anywhere'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'before checks, most people used money orders.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel is agreeing with that Hanslanda person again...
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'lots of people still use money orders, too.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"using cash for transactions?!? -- are you training to be a terrorist!"'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'what did you pay the rent in? i want that paper trail....too much can go wrong'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'only if you're the US government, zade'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and lots of people pay to cash their checks, too'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My apartment only too money orders lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Too many..... bounced checks!!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel giggles.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why can't you pay your rent in cash?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'there is not enough of a good paper trail'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'get a receipt'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Most apartments won't take cash.  Not comfortable carrying $100,000s in rent on the first'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'many apartments don't have the office on-prem...'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'i'd rather have the proof of the endorsed check'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I like money orders, and cashiers checks.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'something like rent you'd use a standing order, presumably'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'standing order?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'regular automated bank payment'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'If I make a high-dollar transaction, I would use a cashier check, since everyone's name is printed and hard to alter'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'not most places, no'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'other than the ones which are essentially a check anyway'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'standing order is the standard way of paying recurring bills here'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'free and instant'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'recurring bills for businesses that are designed to accept money that way'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'pre-authorised payments in Canada'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'for anyone with a bank account, abelinc'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'apartments aren't often that type of business'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'thats fine for bills, but i wouldnt be doing that to some average joe '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'for anyone with a bank account where the business is willing to give you their bank account information'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if your landlord isn't willing to give you their bank account information, you're really happy to stay there?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'for the bill-pay where you just tell you bank where to send the payment, you're still using a check, you're just not the one filling it out'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'pre-authorised payments may be taken from either a Cedit-card or from a Bank-account'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'really an argument about trusted vs non-trusted recipients'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'i would not be giving out my bank info to a tenant. not ever'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you wouldn't let just anyone babysit your kids.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then in the UK you wouldn't get tenants'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'you wouldnt let peewee herman babysit your kids ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'He's great around kids, though!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel pouts. 
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'in the US, a tenant wouldn't ever dream of asking for routing and account numbers...they'd be laughed off premises'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'They would call all the current tenants and they would be ordered to point and laugh as you drove off in shame to Snooky's bar.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and identity theft is a $80 billion business in the US and growing.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I've never heard of bill-pay services where the business hands out their info.  It's always the other way around, the client has to give out theirs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Bill-pay (initiated by the sender, and at a fixed amount per month) may be slightly different to Pre-Authorised payments (initiated by the receiver and variable in amount)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'right hans, for businesses which are hooked into the banks electronically already'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'nah, many will give you an account number. its a deposit only account'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts is agreeing with that Archimedes Eureka person again...
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'internet banking is dominant here'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'therefore direct payment also is'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's dominant here in the US, too.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'in fact, you get charged a fee for paper now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, I was using an online bill-pay system before the Internet'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'oh it very dominant here too. i can even deposit checks via my cell phone'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the only thing you need from a bank now is the ATM.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't trust banks further than i could throw them, though, so do the minimal amount of transactions through them'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '- h 100'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'Don't even really need an ATM. Can just get cash back from the grocery store.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Archimedes Eureka nods at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'That's what I usually do'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'im more leary about that with all the card skimmers though'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'strange that grocery stores are happy to give you cash back, yet treat you as a criminal if you dare pay with a $100'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'I'm using my debit card to buy the groceries anyways'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'they have the guarantee from the bank for the cash back...the $100 may give them nothing'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I pay with $100s all the time, no one cares.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you don't live in a retarded state, Riz'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it can be a pain to spend $100 bills'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I need to get me a debit card.  They deactivated my ATM card for lack of use, and when I reapplied for a new one they never sent it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'didn't even try to send me a debit as a replacement with a "we don't do ATM cards anymore, use this instead".'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but tbh, you don't usually get $100 bills unless you ask for them, when withdrawing reasonable amounts'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I tried to pay with a $500 bill once...and the cashier thought it was funny money. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'tend to get $100 if you buy currency prior to travelling'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they don't make anything more than a 100 anymore, though.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'don't make anything bigger than 50 here'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I could see that, it's more efficient to stock more $100s for currency exchange'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'heh, had someone deny me for paying with a $2 bill once.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'did you call the manager?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'i have a few of those '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I buy $50 in dollar coins every week, just to get them in circulation.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'for local banks, they get new bills regularly enough that they'll just give $400 in $20s'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Archimedes Eureka giggles at Rizgoth's actions.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'throwing a hissy fit over a $2 purchase is more of a NY thing.  I just took my money and left.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it was prolly a young'un at the register who had never seen 'em before'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'i get them as change from the post office and trasit machines'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: '$100s are probably more common than $50s in the US.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'need to get rid of the $1 bill....and just do a hard switch to $1 coins'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and recently we had someone pay with one of the old bills, took it all the way up to the store manager before someone realized it was good money.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no thanks, riz'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'id bet happier if they got rid of the penny'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'cops came and everything, they looked like they wanted to smack the shit out of the dumbass who called them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or change the penny to 2 pennies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'old like ancient, or just a small-head?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it costs 1.4 cents to make a penny because of the high price of copper and zinc now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'old as in before the colorized changes.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'i'd rather things just ended at .00 ;)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daloran: 'they did that in canda recently, didn't they? started rounding up/down to eliminate the penny'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archimedes Eureka: 'we have a pizza place that does that. makes splitting the check so much easier'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'go to your local bank and get some pennies....all copper pennies, or mostly copper pennies are worth 3-5 cents each.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, the easy thing with the pizza place is that they predo tax and make the values fit'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I dunno, I think we need to bring the mill back.  Give the gas stations a real reason to charge 3 dollars and 69 9/10 cents.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Archimedes Eureka nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'you can also get 90% silver quarters from the bank...each one is worth about $3.50'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'My bank only hands out new pennies :('
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Which are about 98% zinc'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'you need to buy them in rolls, not separated.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it's been 30 years since pennies were almost all copper...'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'why not just make them out of steel again?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I bought pennies last week from my bank, and about 10% of them were mostly copper.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Queen Bee Noegel slaps Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'BEcause that would be WAY too simple'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'bought 5 rolls of quarters, and found 6 silver quarters.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'BEcause that would be WAY too simple'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'BEcause that would be WAY too simple'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Oops'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'no, really, in WW2 with the metal shortages they made them out of steel.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so 10% of your pennies were over 30 years old'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I know you're serious and the answer is: If the solution is simple and cheap, the government won't do it.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'how do you tell if they're silver?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Date'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Look a little different too'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'when my grandpa died, he had over $5000 worth of pennies and nickels hidden in his garage.....from the last 60 years.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'how the heck did ya'll never know about that?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'his garage was his. :p'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'volume-wise, that's a pretty big pile to keep hidden.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hell, I have jars of pennies in my closet, going to roll them up someday, and convert them to silver quarters.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'You can fit $50 in pennies in a gallon milk jug'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'So, $6000 is only like 5 gallons of quarters'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'obviously more if it's mixed changed'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '120 milk jugs'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'if it's all pennies...'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'when I was child, our house flooded, and there was a gallon of pennies that got flooded.  Parents told me that if I cleaned and rolled them, I could get the cash for them.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Leinei: 'made $36 that day'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, a $26 two foot long hotdog.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'someone's got a 3 or 4 footer, I think.  Uber-luxury trimmings, too.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'those should be registered.... and you should have to share at least 6 inches with a homeless person'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: '=P'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'are they organic?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I'd do that, but then I'd probably have the bodyguard suckerpunch him in the gut right after so he pukes it back up.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'anyone here eat organic?  that's a good debate'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'organic is a sham.  Anything you buy out of a box, bag, or bottle is going to have some sort of processing to it.  Stuff just simply doesn't last long enough to stay on shelves long enough to get sold.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Well, a lot of organic products have silly expiration dates'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Like in a few days'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'ok... anyone on the OTHER side of the issue?  I can't argue with that.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I buy organic if I'm going to consume quickly'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But for general groceries, I tend to pass'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'nobody really has any time for organic, so they're going to take convenience shortcuts.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'True.. I can work from as short as 8 hours to up to 20'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the organic carrots (from south america) last longer than the commercial carrots in the fridge'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that's not an organic versus processed issue.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you'd be very surprised how common it is for folks to use their refrigerator wrong.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'not to stir the pot too much... but I generally find that orgainic oriented people are more on the liberal side of the political fense'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so i'm liberal, eh'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'which is a bit of a contradiction....'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'slightly organic, slightly liberal'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'if you wanna legalize prostitution and weed, you're pretty much liberal.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'not really, I am for both of those, and am moderate.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'the acrerage and agregan input required to grow X amount of organic product ranges from 1.5 to 12 times greater than for conventional proccessed/grown products... the result being less CHEAP (but proccessed ) food - end result, less food over all.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mainly for economic reasons though, not morality.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'morality has no bearing on anything.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I agree Rizgoth'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'legalise prostitution. do not legalise weed, unless stringently controlled and enforced as to when and where.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Wait, not prostitution'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Just the marijuana'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'all that will do is make the black market all that stronger.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and fuel billions to the evil doers.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if the female prostitutes are going to sell their souls, ensure they are healthy and that they get all the money (not some pimp parasite)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'uhuh, pimps are just going to give up and get dayjobs...'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'those huge cartels funnel marijuana, cocaine, meth and other drugs into the US because it makes them huge amounts of money...but the vast majority of people use marijuana, not the others.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'so you legalize that one, and cripple the cartels.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'RIZGOTH!  Thank you'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'The cartels would shrink in size dramatically'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And make my job safer and easier'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they wouldn't shrink.  First of all, the politicians are bound to fuck up the parameters so legal weed would just end up so gimped that stoners would still want the good stuff.  Guess who's growing that?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if weed is legalised, provide the marijuana in pill form, with a safe additive that changes the skin color (so the populace may tell which are high and not supposed to be operating dangerous machinery or vehicles)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'then there's the whole high-life aspect of cartel life.  People who enjoy big money and loose women aren't just going to roll over without a fight, but who do they send the armies against when there's no defined opponent?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hah, have you ever smoked weed before Zade ?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"marijauna-cola - the pause that stupifies"'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'at best, they'll find a way to own the market again, at worst they'll learn that government puppets aren't enough anymore and will start bashing in doors.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade avoids injurious lung substances
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'then there are the nutjobs who think they'll just go around the big players and maybe steal a few plants or something.  Cartels know how to deal with dumbasses who steal their shit.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zade prefers smart-drugs to stupifaction-drugs
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'excuse me, but if marijuana was legal....most users would grow their own, 1-2 plants for personal use.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'that would destroy the market for cartel weed, which is already inferior in quality.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'carrots are legal, and most folks get THEM in the grocery store'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'legalising weed does not mean legalising personal weed plants'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'People don't grow their own tobacco either'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: '<nod>'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'or their alcohol'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'legalise weed in pill and liquid form, increase the illegality on smoked forms'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and yet you can produce both yourself for your own consumption within limits.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'also increase the penalties on being impaired intoxicated on marijuana while operating vehicles and dangerous machinery'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'people who smoke weed tend to not drive, and when they do they drive about 5 mph.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'i am able to smell when somebody in a house upwind is on a drunk binge, or puffing lung pollutents'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vonliege: 'both tobacco and distilled spirit laws vary widely from state to state'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so no smoking the maurijauna in houses or public locations or anywhere where the exhaust is likely to reach those that dislike marijauna'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'personally, i'd prefer to euthanise marijuana addicts'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'they should drink alcohol instead, I agree. We want a wholesome populace.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'and I am glad that you are officially claiming that marijuana is addictive. Now those who claim otherwise can shut up. An authority on the subject has spoken.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I admire you for being willing to kill someone because you don't like their behavior. Jesse James would be proud of you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'drink Coca-Cola instead (from glass bottles)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'this is a predatory planet'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'do what God requires, or be euhanised'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Oooo Zade Mexican Coke is yummy'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'do what God requires, or be euthanised'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'But only believe in voluntary euthanasia'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the "parable of the wheat and the cockle" is likely the reason that god procrastinates'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, considering tobacco and alcohol kill many many more people then marijuana ever has in recorded history.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if somebody wants to kill themselves without harming others, that is okay'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'maybe we should euthenize morons '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos peers intently at Zade.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'high people on marijuana do not get behind 4000 lb vehicles and ram into families, killing them all.....but alcohol drinkers do every day.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if somebody wants to harm themselves and harm others in the process, that is not okay'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'god is procrastinating because he's trying to scratch that itch in his crotch. Godly itches take aeons to scratch.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'some moron said something about euthanising morons  ;)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, since you are still alive I thought it would be safe to emulate you.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'apparently the "parable of the wheat and the cockle" indirectly protects some morons, at least in the interim'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SnailBot Anaristos reaches down and scratches himself...  Now he looks VERY happy. 
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there was a reported case of a train engineer high on marijauna in charge of driving a passenger train involved in a train disaster'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and there are hundreds of thousands of reported cases over the years of drunk drivers killing people.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'a passenger train weighs far more than 4000 lbs'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and it is one incident, if it happened.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'when alcohol was illegal, more people died from alcohol poisoning, then when it was legal.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the marijauna guy was "caught" because the disaster happened'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'scary when i go to an airport and see the pilots in the lounge drinking alcoholic drinks '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'that better be an after-drink, not a pre-drink'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I know several people who can drink a whole case of beer in a day and not show any signs of impairment.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GhostLeader: '50,000,000 million fucking babies got aborted in the last ten years, 0.4 percent were from rape and incest, so shut the fuck up'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GhostLeader: 'sorry wrong channel'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'what kind of rape?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'no, right channel'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'legit rape or illegit rape?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GhostLeader: 'all kinds'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'illegitimate, of course, if it were a legitimate rape the magic womb would have spat it back out'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'i wonder if it makes magic rape-babies'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'most abortions happen spontaneously without effort when the fertilized cell never attaches to the uterine wall. We call this miscarriage. I blame god, personally.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GhostLeader: 'im talking about legit abortion'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'oh ho ho, "legit"'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol Fiendish'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I can add the word legit abortion to my list of phrases or words to wake up the MUD'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) GhostLeader: 'you know like the kind where the doctor takes his hands, and pulls the baby out by its feet you fucking people are dumbasses, so all you liberals, fuck you'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'not even bothering about the difference between a fetus and a baby, how many abortions actually involve pulling a fetus out by its feet?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'dude, not really coherant.  are you crying?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'i am saddened that animals require to be killed to feed humans'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I love the fetus protectors who want the woman to come to term, but when it comes down to helping her raise the child, they flip her off. Great moral standing :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Zade, animals die to feed everything'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'you are safe, Zade. You are not good feed :>'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'this is a predatory planet'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'doh'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'actually the kid goes on welfare.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'And so is every planet with life.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'the universe is predatory. It has to be since it is a closed system.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so abortion, an age old practice,  is natural'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'for once Zade you said something worth hearing :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Zade you were talking about killing animals'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, children are animals. Or are you claiming that humans are not?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'from the perspective of God, humans are animals'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'from my perspective too :)'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I was responding to his statement on how killing animals to feed humans is sad'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I don't think we eat human fetuses...'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'some people eat placenta'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Or maybe the abortion doctors do too!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Placenta isn't a creature'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'neither is a fetus'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'but I digress'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'hey a human fetus is still a human being'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'tea - they make placenta tea'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the world is overpopulated with humans'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'i think ghost was right'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'are you trying to enlighten us, Zade?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I don't mind aborting fools until they become coherent of thought.  Unfortunately, I don't know of an accurate way of measuring that yet'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'maybe not to the fullest extent, but still'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'I agree with ghost too'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'long term memory formation doesn't really begin until about 3 years old. seems like a perfectly fine threshold'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm not talking about long term memory functoin.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'You slap a baby, it's gonna cry and think you're mean.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'my parents would love it if they could put me back sometimes i'll bet'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'well, a blastocyst is not sentient.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'mine started at about 2 years'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'seems to me like a necessary part of being human'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: '50% of all lower income black pregnancies end in abortion now. That was always the true purpose of Planned Parenthood. To kill people.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'in the us'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'US'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'so either benignly reduce the population of humans, or the populution of humans shall be reduced (say) harshly, unless somebody comes up with a benign viable working alternative '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'abortion is just anothing form of sacficingour children on false altars'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'what is yoursource, Snooky?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'sacficingour?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'He's drunk shh'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'no "the man" wanted to make sure minorities stayed that way, right snooky?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'abortion is the elimination of the unwanted unborn '
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'shut up, i forgot to but a space between sacificing and our'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Well, if the "minorities" got up and made their lives better, we'd be a lot better off *oops*'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'Snooky is correct. planned parenthood's original founder had a master plan to get kill off black people. they still do good work, though. It's kind of a weird catch 22.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'if you dont want children, i have a soluion DONT HAVE SEX'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'helping poor people have access to birth control means the generation of fewer poor people'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: '"that's correct" oh that's source of all.  No, it's probably not.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'that is a dumb solution.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'right, even married couples should sleep in separate beds if they can't afford more children'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'solution is a generous way to describe it'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'in the US being poor has significant racial bias'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'prohibition did not work, and sex abstinence is not going to work'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Majic, duh, people don't like having sex'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'telling people not to have sex is worse than telling them not to eat, since the drive to procreate is stronger than the drive to survive.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'so wear a condom, if it breaks, HAVE THE CHILD'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'cheaper to use injectable contraception.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'being poor has status bias not just racial'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'this is a sexually-addicted predatory planet'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'right, have a child that you can't afford and watch it grow up robbing the ones you already have of resources'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'LiarLiar: can I just punch my wife in the stomach instead?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'or just give it away, that's the easiest, there are loads of people waiting to adopt poor kids ... as long as they're white or asian, sorry, missed that part'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Not so much sex-addicted but the urge to reproduce is higher because you can always make offspring even if dying of starvation'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'not quite, noegel, but close. anorexics do stop menstruation after a while.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'carrying a fetus to term is a hell of a lot of work to just give it away. fucking sell that shit'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Yikes!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'the big equalizer - we can all fuck'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Well... not everyone'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'but you have to be incredibly low body fat before that happens, generally under 10-12%'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'why are people so racist these days, i dont like obama cause of his polotics, but all my bros hate him cause he isnt white'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'a baby is basically worth its weight in gold'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I was gonna say some more but I forgot not curse channel'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'debate is curse'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dispel Majic sings to Queen Bee Noegel, "Shut your fucking face uncle-fucka! You're a boner biting bastard uncle-fucka!"
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'see, you can do curse socials :D'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'lol'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'WOWOWOW'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'I have wood now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Where do you live LiarLiar where racism is so prevalent?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I know a lot of people who hate Obama because they hate his policies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'colorado'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Hmmm'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'Potheads.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Do they hate Hispanics and Asians too?  I was wanting to go ski there next winter.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'i fucking know!!!!!'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the world is too overpopulated to bring unwanted fetuses to term and then hand them off -- also those unfetuses are genetically defective in that the parents were sexual addicts and either too poor or unloving'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'there are also a lot of people who hate him for stupid shit instead of his policies.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'no, for some reason we are coll with them...'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'go obama go !'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'most people hate him because of one thing.  Lies from the right.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'i dont see why we dislike the black race'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I know some people who claim to hate obama's policies. it just happens to come across as racism because they do things like use racial slurs.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'if only everyone could be honest'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Blah, racial slurs don't offend me'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'he isnt all that bad'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cloudkicker: 'and yet when we talk about how GW Bush Jr. is from Texas no one calls that prejudice.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'he just needs to work on his shit, thats all'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'imm -h 20'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'GWB is from Connecticut. Let's be clear.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'mis'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cloudkicker: 'Obama isn't from Africa, GW isn't from Texas. My analogy still stands.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'GW was a sub par presidential candidate and president'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'i still want to see his birth certificate... his real one'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Who cares about Obama's birth cert... the damage is done'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dispel Majic rolls her eyes, disgusted.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'why do you want to see his 'real" birth certificate?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'what damage?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'so we can prove that he cant be in'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'the damage to his credibility'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'to match Michelle's "real" SS number exposed by hackers.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'now I understand this whole conversation a lot better'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'no one wanted to see any of the previous President's birth certificates, 'real' or 'fake''
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'do you ever wonder why that is?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'the state of hawaii says his birth certificate is real. I'm not sure what "real" one would satisfy you now.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cloudkicker: 'I heard President Lincoln didn't even have a birth certificate.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'the only 'real' one that would satisfy them is a kenyan one.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LiarLiar: 'he was born in a hospital that wasnt built yet... nope not suspicious at all'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'LiarLiar: which hospital wasn't built yet?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'why did they look into it in the first place?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'answer that fundamental question'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'because "they" are mean-spirited'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'there is no other answer'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'Republicans hated Clinton'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I want to know what hospital wasn't built'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'they never checked his birth certificate though'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'People are such meanie weenies'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'The democratic party tends to lead with a compromise.  I think it scares the conservtives.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'I once seen a youtube vid stating that Egyptian mummies can be cloned and Obama and his wife and children are clones of mummies. And I was like lol bullshit until it showed me an ancient statue of a Pharoh that looked like endgame Michael Jackson. Man I wish stuff like this was true sometimes. Way better than debating gay marriage.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [Outlaw] Haladin: 'I'm not sure that a player named liarliar will come up with concrete facts'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'as far as I can see, the hospital he was born in was built in 1890. Good luck saying he's like 200 years old.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'especially when they don't exist?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'the email forward had faulty info, who could have known'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dispel Majic: 'furthermore, it was called the name that's on his birth certificate between 1931 and 1978'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'the birth was announced in the newspaper'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Lol Vampire Obama'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Another reason to hate him'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'email is your first issue.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'it takes a real suspension of disbelief to think it is some elaborate hoax'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Too bad the government is too unorganized to handle elaborate hoaxes'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'when he was born there was no email.  How many people here work at IT?  How many records are online?  we all know that number is very very small.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cloudkicker: 'i saw an awesome video  about how Ferris Bueller's day off is really a fight club type of thing, and how Ferris is actually Cameron's Tyler Durden, and the whole movie is just him having conversations with himself. It changed my  life.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'what do they gain Noegel?'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snooky: 'YEAH Cloud I seen that too, I need to watch that movie again,'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'The world!!  And aborted fetuses souls'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twyst: 'not sure if serious'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: 'I saw that same thing, but applied to Fight Club.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'Souls power Vampire Obama's presidency, of course'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'I'm not'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dardezael: '"I seen that" pretty much summarizes it right there then.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I don't think pretty summarizes it at all.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Queen Bee Noegel: 'It does, it does...'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'I don't think pretty summarizes it at all.'
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SnailBot Anaristos: 'oops'