T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: wow not happy
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: anyone out there?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: need help badly
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acheos bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: hmm why when i use runto it uses academy social then it usus xrt, using mush
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: sounds intriguing mine does not do that
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Did you mess up a runprefix?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: ahh i messed up my mapper portals
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: hello! am wondering if there is a way to increase the font size in the main window in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: in mush hit alt+5 to open the window config /output window
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: ah! awesome! thank u!
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: how do i remove 1 mapper portal? forgot/
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Read mapper help
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: accidentally upgrade your Mushclient version without making a backup... conveniently deletes all of them for you, as well as your map :P
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: when you do ctrl F to find something, whats do you hit to find the next instance in MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ctrl-shift-F
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorddillon Tech: whats this * You are now dead. * shows it when i load plugins
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: whats the command to view room details
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: look ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You mean brief? Ie, room descs when walking in, or something else?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: want to see like heal rate - etc
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: survey
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: recon
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: for manor
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: rstat
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: rstat
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: rstat was what i was looking for
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you shoulda known that cheezburger
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he did, he was just teaching you the value of specificity.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: if I have an alias that goes something like 'cast fire %1', is there any way to capture '%1' as a temporary variable?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: when i did it i made 2 vars, 1 to execute, and 1 to "send to variable"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: probably not the best method of doing it, but it was 2 identical alias
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in mushclient is there a way to get the room number automatically displayed without moving mouse pointer over mini map?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: mapper help all has your answer
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: something like the miniwin that constantly displays str/int/wis, is there something to display the room number?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i dont think fiendish has an echo for that.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: how do you transfer aliases from a previous version?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: aardwolf.mcl is a text file, you can copy+paste
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: maybe in file, then import from file
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: aardwolf.mcl includes all the info that all the plugins use?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: there are instructions on how to do this
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: they are pretty clear
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: got a link for it?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: yes please, im so bad with this stuff, i could use the link also
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: down a bit, where it talks about upgrading
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: wooo i did it lol!
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are there such thing as constants in lua?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: can someone show me how to make triggers?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Assuming you are mushclient.  Otherwise we will need to know more info.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: im talkin about as in the app
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: there is a tab that says triggers and when i click it says new trigger and close
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you want to make a new trigger.. so why don't you click 'new trigger' and see where that takes you
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: then when i click it says on the firdt line name, second line pattern, then on the third line two checkable boxes that say interperet as literal and only fire once and then on the fourth line it says new action
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: did you look at the website?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: no .-.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there any way to trigger on mapper output?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: to do what, pray tell
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, what is it you're trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Not by actually triggering on the output.  You can change the scripts themselves so they do something extra when they would normally be doing the output./
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: For search and destroy, I want to "go" if I find the line ~~~ 1
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Careful
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: S&D is only a trigger away from being a bot.  Don't cross that line, m'kay?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Yeah its just to save me from two commands instead of xcp 1 (wait a second) go. 
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, that sounds like waaay to much work
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I know right?! 
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Actually it's because of my OCD: sometimes I need to type go immediately, other times I have to run first.  I don't know why it grates on me so much to not know how long I have to wait before typing go
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: OCD, new excuse for botting
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's hardly OCD, that's more like "i want the thing to run itself"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: actually it wont work because ~~~ 1 is also used when you cp check
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I too.. have this medical condition.. cheat help plz
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hey this area has a mobprog to get entrance, that doesn't comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act..
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: but you're in africa
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: But I'm still American!
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I am illiterate, I demand a graphical interface
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you birdbrain
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: are you a diplomat?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Negative, I am a meat popsicle.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ah, a canadian
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Actually I used to be Canadian, but not anymore.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: america => canada => africa?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: canada is in america
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Of the northern variety
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: northern north america
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: canada is in africa
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: what is a pattern for triggers?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the thing you are trying to match
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the pattern is the thing you are wanting to trigger off of, basically
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: where can i learn on howto make patterns?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: did you read the website?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you don't... *sigh*... i'm not going to explain these kinds of basics honestly
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: bc im so confused on patterns
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: start simple then
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: maybe triggers are not for you
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: a pattern is "i want to jump everytime i see the tick notification" -> the tick notification is the pattern you trigger off of
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so the pattern is sort of the "okay, now run the trigger"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: ok and how would you right a pattern?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and when the trigger sees the pattern it's looking for, it executes wahtever you tell it to do
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: write*
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Well, before you right a pattern, first you have to wrong a pattern.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: copy/paste --> TICK <-- into the pattern line?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what do you THINK a pattern is?  because what i'm describing seems to be explaining something your not digesting
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: i think that a pattern is a type of code
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and there we are, that's not the case
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Here's the basics.  You have the exact text for the line you want to cause the desired result as the pattern.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are you aware of what a trigger is?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: can you tell me what you think a trigger is?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Here's the slightly-more-than-basics - you can use a * to match anything.  So "* bites you!" matches "A dog bites you!" and "Jhav bites you!"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: oh so basicaly you tell the trigger what to type when you do  certain action
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's an alias
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: an alias is "i type this, but i want to do this"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Here's the totally-non-basics: http://www.regular-expressions.info/
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: a trigger is "i saw this, so do this"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: is a trigger part of a gun ?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Patterns can be simple text (Any line with "Metria" in it someplace) or they can be complicated. (Any line that starts with "Tech:" and does NOT have "Metria" in it)
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: too complicated guys... lets get past the what a trigger is, so then trying to figure out what a pattern is makes more intuitive sense
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, stay with me here
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For gods sake, do not send a newbie trigger writer to regular expressions :/
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: an ALIAS is where i type roar, but the command i want sent is *slap norton
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That's why I said 'totally non-basics' :P
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, basically, I've aliased *slap norton, to roar
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: make sense?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to assign CTRL-R (repeat last command) to the keypad in MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Control-Shift-1
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you clear your CLI on enter?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can put an alias in there, can't you?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes you can, Metria.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: has zmud updated their mapper to compete with mush? ie: auto-mapping
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yup, in cmud
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: zmud is dead and no longer updated, IIRC
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I think you missunderstoon, Metria... I want to assign a command to the keypad.  I want "repeat last command" assigned to a key on the keypad
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Like the up arrow, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: k next question then....can you directly import zmud scripts ect to cmud? or have to convert like mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: von, sending ! to aardwolf will do te same thing server side
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: kokurai:  you okay after all that?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I could certainly macro it... except I don't know how to invoke [control-r] from a macro
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: AHHHH!  I think you have a winner there, Nocilis... thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: AHHHH!  I think you have a winner there, Nocilis... thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: not sure, Isabelle. Last time I tried cmud (a long long time ago) it wasn't all that different from zmud and most scripts worked without changes.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: honestly, your best bet is to just dive into mush at this stage
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It is more of a wade
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: closer... My goal is to have two side by side buttons... one quaf the heal potion flavor-of-the-week, while the other repeats my last attach....  trouble is, as soon as I invoke a heal potion, that becomes my 'last command' as far as the game is concerned
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm confused, because i don't undertand why a keypad would override your buffer
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: in that case, you'll want a script attached to the right button thet looks at checks the command buffer, and ignores the quaff one
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have my command line set up to just store what i've typed in last
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so i can just hit enter again
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that might be good enough for me, scars...
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: What stops you from putting your attack on the macro?  Don't try to repeat the last command, just hard code it to use some variable.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess there is a setting somewhere where it leave the command line populated
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And then that variable can be "c immo" or "spiral" or whatever.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: what he means scars is... have 1 button to use last command sent, and one to quaff....     eg... he types kill troll  and can hit right button to do it again and again, and hit left button to quaff without it interfering with other button picking up last command used
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the touble with the attack is that they need a different <target> (%1) every time
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, they don't
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, and if he typed kill troll, and hit his keypad for it, the stored CLI would still have kill troll... so he just hits enter
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: ok so i put title as quest time and note as show notification
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Unless you're targeting from out of combat, using an attack without an argument just targets whatever your autoattacks are hitting.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hit his keypad for quaff, i mean
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's exactly what I am after, Norton
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: pattern*
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: didn't know that, JHav
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. that would work...   same as swho 12 perdition doesn't echo to command bar when i hit numpad-5
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what you're describing is EXACTLY what i use, but i use <enter> and my keypad for quaff
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Try it.  Attack something, use an attack skill without a name on it.  It still works :)
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And I've likely just simplified your life enormously.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: go to the game -> configure -> commands (i think) -> keep command in whatever...
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ok, here's my Mushclient wish: Can I set control-U to empty my input buffer, since I'm so used to using that in terminal windows?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks, scars.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hope it helps :S
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hitting backstace, or typing anything should clear the input buffer?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: metria: dunno. but you can set it that hitting esc clears the command bar
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Where's that setting, Norton?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: its in game/config/input/commands/keyboard preferences button
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wish that was a touch higher level, but awesome
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Got it, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thats super hepful
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: higher level, meaning not under keyboard preferences, but in the commands window
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What would speed up my video transcoding? is that primarily CPU?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: depends... some software uses the gpu as well.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: but yes... the more cores you can throw at it, the faster the transcoding is.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: OK, I mostly got what I wanted working. Anyone interested in how I did it? I can post to Tech.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: I want to set a custom exit in bast for sho'aram...mc say i wish to see the genie but there is such a delay it never works. Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use wait in cexit construction
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Never used that do i hust add wait at the end or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need not too old version of MUSHclient, r1738 has it (checkversion to check version)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Hmmm i have r1429 but it has been altered by a friend so don't want to lose any features he added. Guess i'll just leave it alone for now thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for seeing genie it will be:  mapper cexit say i wish to see the genie;;wait(5)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: ok thanks i'll see what happens
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type mapper help exits and check whethere there is info about wait, maybe your version has it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, are you sure that your friend altered mush, not just plugins ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if only plugins were altered, then install new release and copy old plugins to new release
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Not sure at all what is different and since i'm a total moron with technical stuff i try not to mess with stuff hehe
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Wheeeeeeee! Ok so first i had to type mapper cexit_wait 10 to change the delay time for the next cexit followed by the standard mc say i want to see the genie. Thanks for the pointers :)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, you need wait
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cexit_wait is exit construction wait, will not work in this case
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to stay in room long enough to be transported to next room
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so waiting is just part of cexit
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: CEXIT WAIT FOR CONFIRMATION BEFORE MOVING. This should take about 10 seconds. Custom Exit CONFIRMED 37818 (say i want to see the genie) -> 37819....seems to have worked to me??
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: only if you want to get to 37819
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Yeah it took longer than all my other cexits which are set at the standard 2 second delay...so when i type mc (custom exit) blah blah it sends blah blah waits 2 seconds for it to confirm success or failure?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to get to room 37819 cexit_wait is fine, because after saying you want to see gennie you won't move
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but probably 37819 is just half-way, so that means that you will execute series of movement after getting there
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as mapper thinks that that custom exits was immediately executed
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The painful ones are places like Umari and Kearvek, where if you aim at certain rooms you either crash through the progs or move away before they fire
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, cexit_wait may be good for such cexit like in knossos - when you have to execute sequence of actions to get to other part of knossos
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is also good for LoL
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but in Knossos all actions are immediate, so this is only matter of time that mapper need to wait till you get to your destination
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Buy ticket, board, move to correct room, give ticket :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in Sho'aram mob prog takes some time, so you have wait till it fire
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Oh i just checked it and i understand you now! It's like my sendhia speedwalk i have to type it twice once to vidblain and a second to finish the walk to sendhia first room. If i want a room in the genie's lamp i have to use mr to finish the rune after arriving at the wick
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ninjato, that works, so long as the remainder of the speedwalk runs into walls
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: where can i get a plugin that shows my mob, time place etc on gtalk?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: shows your what mob
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: qmob
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: try bast scripts
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: finger bast i think for the place to get
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: doesnt show
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yes one of them does show qmob in a minwin
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: already have the plugins only shows time i completedit
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: urm, i said gtalk
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: well i guess it wouldnt be to hard...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: there was a plugin that came withmy mush but i dunno wgeres it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: hi. I've been getting massive lag spikes on aard, even though speed test says it's 100Mbps DL speed and 8Mbps UL speed, and my browser has no lag. anyone know what could be a reason why this is happening?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are a lot of hops between you and aard
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use axence tools (free) to monitor mean time to each node
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Isn't there a tracert or something for windows?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i think there is
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is, but tracert shows only single stat
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: traceroute aardmud.org, I think
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: hmm the thing is, it doesnt happen all the time... it only lags during evening/night
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, axence is more similar to mtr than traceroute
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: try ping, Cirrus, and if it's lagging, then use traceroute to find out where the lag is.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Thanks, didn't even know about that tool.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: hmm ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: ping results were pretty bad
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm getting an average of 213ms.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: mine just timed out
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: then traceroute
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: and see where it is
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: hmm 13 hops
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mtr or axence, single traceroute may pass, you may experience problems with NAT overflow
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you rather should check stats gathered for several minutes to see whether some nodes cause problems
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm, I have 12 hops to Aard, Cirrus.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: if it's within a couple hops of you, it's local. if it's further away, it's probably a backbone router running slow
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: whoa, 8 hops are my school's
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Big jump of about 180ms to *.networklayer.com
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why is the second jump ??? ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: because it's lagging there
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, OK.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: btw what does the 3 different timings on the same line mean?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: do*
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: my first hop shows something like this: 564ms 38ms 100ms
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: are you using some kind of wireless connection ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: nope, it's wired
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That looks massive. Why are you getting 564ms on your first hop :/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: no idea :/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually 1st hop is around 1 ms
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: school network may have a netnanny or some such sniffing traffic?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Year 7 chinese? You got an actual Chinese curriculum there?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: icmp goes to userspace, and isn't normally prioritized, can't make any conclusions from that
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: i doubt so. i only get this kind of lag at certain times
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: or it could be a deliberate anti gaming measure?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: usually it's fine... but when it's night/evening it starts to lag :/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: oh - in that case overloaded hardware - you should tell everybody to stop streaming porn
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have public or private IP ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: probably your ISP oversold its bandwidth.. common problem nowadays when everyone streams e.g. youtube and netflix
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: should be private IP
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: old rules of thumb for oversubscription rates are failing
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: but to get that on the first hop is to your own hardware, right?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I would have thought so, Vakieh..
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: and he said school, so I am thinking shared dorm hardware
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: too many users, too little bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: nope it's not my own hardware
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: not even bandwidth, if it is ping
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and no qos
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: i connect the lan cable straight to the school's network
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather too many connections - P2P
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it isn't your isp's, is what I'm sating
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ping are still IP packets, affected by queues
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: saying*
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: it could be p2p... but the funny thing is that my torrents get blocked on school network
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try using wireshark to check whether it is not switch related problem
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tell your school IT department that they should enable qos and prioritize telnet :D
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: buy a little mobile dongle - telnet will use minimal data and your ping will be much lower
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: hmm ok thanks. well sometimes i switch to tether my mobile's internet when it gets really bad
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I have to do that at home too, sometimes.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: strange... at some point snd stopped searching my mapper when i request quests... any idea how to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i get Alias function "map_list" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sounds like the alias function map_list was not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh wow, really?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is it found? did it have a previous error?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i cannot locate it as an alias, but i think it's part of a plugin, so i don't know how i'd see it anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can probably assume that your plugins didn't magically change while you were sleeping
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so find the error message
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i honestly have no idea where to even look for it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: scroll up
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i just remove mapper and add it again
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: won't removing the mapper and adding it again cause some problems with my settings?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it would be nice to know why you experienced an error
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wish i knew why it gave me an error, and the error itself happened yesterday, and i cannot recreate it because the error i showed you is the error i keep getting
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i had an error erlier it didnt wnted to show my mapper so i removed and added it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i SEE the mapper just fine
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: errors don't happen silently
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i remember seeing the error message, i didn't think to copy it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: next time please copy it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this time, reload the plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ctrl+shift+p -> select the plugin -> Reinstall
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper find is working, so i assume that when i request a quest, that thing won't error out
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper find and mapper list are not the same function
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have to run... sorry for the abruptness and thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: in C a variable passed by reference is the same as using pointers to pass it, corret?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: correct?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: reference mean pointer
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: k. ty
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can't pass by reference in C
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You can pass a pointer.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reference passing was introduced in C++
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: References (in C++) are just sugar on top of it, really.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not saying you guys are wrong but both my teacher and my book have yet to say anything about pointers
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: would assume you all are correct
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I always assume that I'm correct.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you sure your not really abe?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i don't think i have ever seen you both on at the same time :P
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he's on right now
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: touche
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish is nicer and more tactful than the other..
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thats a stretch
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: both pretty douchy
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at The River Styx, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Styx: That shows that you do not know them that well.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: meh either i don't pick up on what bothers people about them or they are nice enough
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in any event, your idea is basically correct. a pointer is, at the level you're thinking of, basically the same as a reference (ignoring various C++ features)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: cool thanks. ever thought about teaching?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: oh god
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: tp for tuition?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie has just smacked The River Styx into oblivion! RUN, before you're next!!
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please note that this is not actually true in detail, because references are not useful for more complex features of OO. I'm just saying that for the example of passing variables into functions they have the same semantic meaning of "my data is actually being held somewhere else"
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and by "somewhere else" i mean somewhere else on the execution stack. have you learned about scope and the execution stack?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have, First in, last out
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you probably just had an eye twitch didnt you?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes that is a stack. I mean more specifically in the context of which functions have access to which variables, and so forth
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ah, well in the same way as you just said, first in last out, that is how functions execute. functions can call other functions and so on.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: this sounds like the C programming language's 'passing by value', and providing an address of that value when passing by reference
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: any bit of data that is dynamically constructed (and I'm going to guess here that you probably haven't learend about malloc yet, so don't worry about the other case) within a function gets deconstructed automatically when that function exits
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is also why global variables can be seen everywhere, because the global context doesn't go away until the program ends
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so my issue is that apparently with that last program i was supposed to know how to pass by pointer. there was 2 lines in the book about it and 2 mock programs in lecture notes. (programs don't actually show anything). no i am trying to figure out how to use it.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.ontko.com/pub/rayo/cs35/pointers.html
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: awesome thank you sir, i was looking at this http://boredzo.org/pointers/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that works too, I'm sure
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sucks working 60hrs a week, and going to school. i end up with barely enough time to hand things in
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the short of it is that there are three?four? steps to passing pointers and then using them
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: first you make some data. maybe you do "int myInteger = 4
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: has anyone made their own cnc mill before?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: first you make some data. maybe you do "int myInteger = 4;" or something in your function
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: then create the pointer that looks to the data's location?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well yes, but you can skip that step by doing it implicitly
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes twitches nervously.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: implicit derivation?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can then call another function like myFunction(&myInteger) with &myInteger as input instead of myInteger
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: from memory, (and it's shady), function(int c, int *x) will push the return address, the variable address x then the variable (contents) c, then call the function (or stor in registers in 64 bit), so function (x, &y), is the same as if y was a pointer, except it's relative to the calling function
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: Amaya any good?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where myFunction's declaration is like myFunction(int * myInteger)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: (webeditor)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: giving it probably a shot anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is a shortcut for doing int myInteger = 4; int* myIntegerPointer = &myInteger; myFunction(myIntegerPointer)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i was just beginning to comprehend pointers to functions and things when i gave up teaching myself, it can e really interesting though, good hobby at least
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, if the declaration for myFunction were, let's say myFunction(int * myPassedInPointer), then inside that function you could access the data stored in myInteger above by doing *myPassedInPointer
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: & before the variable is the reference operator, and * before the variable is the dereference operator
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok just hold on the second. on the verge of an AHHA
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: & creates a reference to the data, and * follows the reference back to the original data
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so when you *myPointer = myData it doesnt actually get passed back by the function it just writes it directly to the memory address?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: AHHH
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so you have to create the 'path' for it to write back to what you reference in the calling function or where ever it is actually needed
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok i think i have a better grasp now. ty, i am going to hack away at this homework for a bit.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the link I posted has three very small programs that demonstrate this
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol so iomanip.h either isn't included with my compiler or something is messed up
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gcc is the compiler i am using
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: does c++ destructors have anything to do with actually destroying the data from returned functions?  i never learned that language at all , but i remember that with the stack at least, not 64 bit registers, you could still reference the contents of the variables created in the returned function until overwritten
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: destructors are just functions that are automatically called when a class is destroyed (removed from memory).  If you've ever worked with events, it's kinda the same thing.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gcc should have iomanip
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you doing #include <iomanip.h> ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod this is the program http://pastebin.com/GSnJfgQh
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i get: c:\cprog\ass6.c:2:21: fatal error: iomanip.h: no such file or directory
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i guess i will reinstall the compiler
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: did the code look ok?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people say that new versions of gcc require <iomanip> instead of <iomanip.h>
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though that actually isn't working for me either...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: reinstalling didn't help either
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gcc is what the teacher specified also
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you installed dev libraries for c++ ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh I see
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: iomanip is not a C library
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a C++ library
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so gcc won't know about it in C mode
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's really dumb of your teacher
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC there is g++ 
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: gnu ++ ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i did include the c++ libraries on this reinstall and it still didn't work
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't matter. either use gcc -x c <yourfile.c>   or use g++ yourfile.c
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: er, 
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gcc -x c++
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not -x c
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or don't use iomanip
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also just fyi the code you pasted includes smart quotes
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which are bad
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it won't compile unless you replace them with regular ones
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am sure my teacher is a bright guy but so far i have not been able to find him at his office during office hours for a face to face. not to mention that when i told him that using remove as a function (as he stated we should) was the reason the last program didn't compile right
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what are smart quotes?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: face one direction and the other?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: instead of "
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: erg
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess aardwolf won't show them
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: smart quotes are the ones that don't turn the text red on that pastebin page ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the angled ones
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: joy and they don't select on replace
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok it compiles but it doesn't seem to read in the data. not sure what i am missing http://pastebin.com/i5Gxb39M
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: scanf("%d", &Dollars[j])
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Dollars is a float array
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod just noticed that and changed it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: another problem is the size a float handle in case "Dollars" is supposed to hold the US budget deficit 2012.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the %12f?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: imo that's fine
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should probably re-prompt for each input dollar amount though
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not clear from a user perspective that I need to enter N dollar amounts
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wanna hear something funny?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am only adding in a few parts to all of this
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the rest is pre-made by the teacher
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hate your teacher
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thought you would like that
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so at the bottom in the displayData function wtf is j+1 there for?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you also have too many spaces in "Enter the  dollar amount for each : "
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "the  dollar" -> "the dollar"
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya that is the teacher
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oh. the j+1 is what was screwing it up
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it looks like that string is just supposed to start with %d
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod as a indicator for which deposit it is. but the way it was setup it was keeping the yen from displaying
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not for me
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only change needed to make the program actually work was changing scanf("%d", &Dollars[j]) to scanf("%f", &Dollars[j])
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: printf seems to happily ignore that j+1 in the absence of a leading %d
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so this is what my teacher gave me to build off of http://pastebin.com/CuzEebgT
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it looks like your teacher expects you to insert a %d in that display
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because j+1 is clearly not a float
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the last 'programming' class i had was for matlab. it was MUCH different than this
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not sure if it is even considered programming
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know about your class, but a lot of very real programming is done with matlab
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the only programming class I took was combined matlab/java. Matlab isn't free, so I wound up doing stuff in java when I needed it. Wonder how it compares with other languages as far as ease of learning...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wish I knew how to program.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kelvar is agreeing with that Turie person again...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Octave is free, though, as long as you don't need things like simulink/stateflow
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: There are few good courses in C these days.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: we did a lot of stuff like this in matlab but there is SO much that matlab seems to just take care of for you
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: is c alive still tho?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: very alive
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: ancient language as hell
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i remember reading of a matlab like programming language developed at some universities
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ARM still deliver their reference code in C for ARM architecture.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: i remember doing hello world on slackware back in like 99 or something
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: matlab was really cool though. i ended up using it for my math classes instead of the stupid ti's
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I remember doing hello world on c++ and giving up shortly after. Think I still have the book I was using...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello world is a silly place to stop a language. all it does is show you how to prepare yourself to write a program without actually writing one
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Expert C programming by Peter Linden is great for those who want to get a better understanding of C.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: being a newbie at these things, I can't help but wonder why I'd want to know more languages than one. I'm sure there are good reasons, but...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because you can't run C++ in a browser
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: same reason sometimes you want a screwdriver instead of a hammer.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i like assembly programming still, it helps to understand all of the ways the other languages work
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, I suppose. At this stage I can't tell the difference between that screwdriver and a hammer, to extend the analogy...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone work in IT/network security?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: every programmer should know at least one scripting language like python or lua
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: learning of the way the printf function is written was neat too, although i don't even remember it now, it involves some special constructs
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: speaking of which, the method in java I've been using to draw picture refuses to draw more stuff than my screen resolution minus some small value. Given that I don't understand the code, I wasn't able to fix it. So sad. sigh
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: oooo, somebody teach me
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: instead of getting bored of your cout hellow world
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I don't even know what the definition of a script is, or what's the difference between a scripting language and your usual run-of-the-mill language...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: it's amazing how complex these machines are, like the amount of libraries , how they're managed, how different levels of libraries define variable sizes etc, all those #includes etc
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: someone asked me at work the other day how a fax works. so i gave a rudimentary explaination. they responded with, 'but how does it REALLY work?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: should of sent them to the how it works youtube channel
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a fax is just a printer attached to a telephone
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: windows i think is harder to understand than even linux, because  you have to already know what you're looking for to find it, where learning what an elf header is is soemting a book on linux would mention, finding windows' equivalent is pretty deep - or assembly programming in windows - how do you get started with that
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Rabshake: I disagree
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for one there is no standard linux UI spec to look up. you either need to know that you're using gnome/gtk or kde/qt or whatever else
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: that's for gui programming though, and the library's are well documented, where if you download something like visual c++ you're already using a program produced by one of them
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: visual c++ is by far the greatest IDE ever produced, and the problem of windows programming is not API discoverability
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: historically the problems with windows programming have been that rarely used api calls don't necessarily work correctly and that Microsoft is almost as quick to deprecate things as Apple is, so you end up with a lot of versions of the same thing
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Apple is far worse on this, though. they just break functionality with every new version of Mac OS
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is why you get programs that will work on 10.4 but not 10.5 and 10.5 but not 10.6
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i've seen a fully functional (although minimalized) graphical operating system run off a single floppy disk on a x86 cpu before
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your notion of fully functional is archaic and wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i don't see why people're so selfish with their source code though, science tries to better itself doesn't it?  i bet there's been more billionairres created in the last 30 years than in the history of mankind (as wealth in comparison to the regular joe)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: was there billionaires previous to the last 30 years?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_historical_figures
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ahh nod i am one of those annoying people that voices the question out loud and then immediately looks it up
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: sure, there was plenty - but look at all the people who got rich off of things like antivirus, from sloppily developed operating systems, applications like facebook which now sell people's pictures as a hobby, google, which gives information on everything a user ever searched for to the highest bidder, your cell phone company which gives your tracked paths to whoever they want
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: people do all kindso f banking and things over these machines now, and they don't know how they work, how safe all the steps of the transactions (typically aren't) etc
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Sounds like you, Zade, and Chemosh will all get along famously.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what i find funny is all the people terrified about tracking devices being implemented by the government
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: things should be much more nationalized when it comes to information technology
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mean while they carry their gps enabled phone everywhere and post where they are no less
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let me put it this way...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: digital photographs too imprint the location they were taken, so what if you were caught burning a book on camera, and the holy warriors who invested 500 million in twitter come to track down the infidels
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I want my friends to always know where I am. I want 911 to always know where I am. I don't want the FBI to always know where I am.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because I trust the first two and not the third
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wonder if an orginizaion like "SHIELD" existed. Would you like it or not/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: endless insecurity through computers that didn't previously exist in the filing cabinent of a secure government complex, and the mailman wasn't always creepy
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wouldn't.  Ever notice how much damage superheroes end up doing trying to get the bad guys?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: too many of my close friends face very real persecution by federal agencies to ignore the dangers of letting the government access your personal location data
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: an organization like Shield or a world with superpowered heroes
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: but they do have their uses, i'm just saying, their producers overvalue themselves
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: cause we probably already have a org like shield
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no helicarriers yet, though
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i like the idea of friends and 911 knowing where i am. but i don't know the logistics of how my gps data is accounted for. who owns the gps satelites?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the military
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they rent out access to private firms
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: yes vorpes, precisely - that's some things that should be nationalized, and in some democratic nations the user should choose whether or not they want to be tracked
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fortune Fiendish Technology and Innovations
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and they get the "good" data down to under a foot variance vs the public/commercial data down to about 14 feet
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: GPS is owned by the US DoD
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: i go by the motto for most tech things... if they got it in movies the military probably has a similiar version  near completion 
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: the military is composed of people who's families are monitored in the unforseen future in the same way as they themselves monitor others without their awareness, so it's a problem for them too
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not only that, but the only way to space is through the military.  If you wanna do your business, you gotta do theirs too.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: some people should be watched, like that harvard chaplain calling for death to apostates
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe he was saying death to the prostates
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm did we just got foil hat on here?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: but not everybody, anybody with a grudge and some money can plot assassinations with access to the tracked paths of the plausible deniability electronic network gathering data on every aspect of their daily routines
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: everyone's watched.  We have more camaras than stop signs now.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: and how few people oversee all of this, is how much limitation any kind of dictator has on utilizing it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: wonder how much it would cost to make a completely civilian version of the gps these days...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no incentive to
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It would be hideously expensive.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And how would you commericalize it when the government is already providing?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: just as a thought exercise, I suppose
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh sure, gimme 37 trillion for a thought exercise...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: maybe government should work together on it then, and make sure that each keeps it's usage to the purpose of civilian use, and leaves their military satellites out of the realm of the civilian ones
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: government has no reason to
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they already only give civilians limited access
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I suppose in the future it could get cheaper, if it piggybacked on other stuff
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: limited access is different from sole purpose and operational parameters of them though
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: launching and maintaining an additional 32 geosynchronous satellites which would not interfere with all the currently-existing satellites for something which gives fully zero benefit to any party is beyond stupid
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the primary reason to do it would be to protect against the threat of trivial civilian gps denial by the government. you could argue though that they could still nontrivially deny gps even if they don't own the satellites
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: by flooding the spectrum
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is something that has not been threatened
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't need to have been for it to be a real concern
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i don't like the idea of almost all technology being manufactured in a communist country for instance, communism has been the governments responsible for the most crimes against humanity in possibly the history of mankind, and technology is the resting place of progress today
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for something which has been reliably used by civilians for 40 years it does
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: monopoly shouldn't get in the way of security imo
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and similarly, how exactly whould whomever undertakes this be deemed any more trustworthy than the existing system?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would like to see free Wi-Fi thoughout the world.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so has the internet, but the us government wants an off button for that too
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whichever company/conglomerate/cooperative would undertake this could then use it anti-competitively, and would have more incentive to do so
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, if you have multiple systems competition could do the trick...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: the us government had the most members against international censorship of the internet though
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: or the us rather
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and I certainly wouldn't say that commie govts have been responsible for the most crimes against humanity...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: think the fascists win that prize.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i think nations being able to control the content it's citizens brouse through is ok though, i don't think international should say that for them
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean like China-style?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: restricting access to information is oppression
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the Great Firewall is effective
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: one little switch and there's no more internet in China.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: to some degree it may be, but some governments are oppressive (more than others), and if they outnumber the less-oppressive ones on the 'internatioanl board of thought-crime internet censorship', and they win the vote, then what
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: i just downloaded the aard mush client with the individual stat/ map/ communication windows but I cant find a shortcut to open it back up to my current locked layout. IThe only thing I can find is the initial installed application like its brand new
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you have to save your settings
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You did not delete the World File.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: otherwise your settings won't be saved
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: counterintuitive, I know
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: total freedom of information is a nice ideal, but kind of naive...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: all you have to do is research the murder of reporters and stuff in a particular nation to see why they would like no information on the internet at all
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: there's also things like pornography, which somebody in home economics class researching how to make a cream pie for a exam, might not want to find
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: you never know
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: the problem is I originally downloaded mushclient a few weeks back where everything is just on one screen. So even though I save the settings when I click the mushclient shortcut it opens up that mushclient, even though both are mushclient (does that make sense?)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a new shortcut
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get rid of the old one
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no shortcuts in the downloaded client
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could right-click your shortcut and select a new target of the mushclient.exe in the newly-downloaded folder
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: i went to the shortcut in the programs file and it still opens the old one
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: obviously
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: its all mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it should
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: the original and this new one, both the same client
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "its all mushclient" demonstrates a lack of understanding about how computers work
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard mushclient doesn't "install"...so nothing is in program files or start menu
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: ok i didnt know that
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're welcome to PUT a shortcut there, though
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: i thought it was an installed mushclient software
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should have known that by the fact that you didn't have to install anything
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or as I said, you can redirect the existing shortcut to point to the new download
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a "portable" package, which means you can drag that folder anywhere onto any computer and it'll "just work" (provided security restrictions would allow execution)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: so when i save the settings what folder does it save to?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the one you ran
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the newly-downloaded one, provided that's the one you're running
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: since its not actually installed
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, it's like you have a plastic box labelled "onions". You put onions in them. You recently got another plastic box labelled "onions". You open it and wonder where your onions went...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish laughs out loud at Sonshi.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: exactly right
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you have to figure out how to move the onions to your new box
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: one little switch and there's no more internet in China.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one little switch and there's no more onions in China.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: One little switch and there's no more china.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does that have to do with the price of onions in china?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: one little switch and there's no more The Onion in china
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't be surprised if there WERE no The Onion in china
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: come to think of it, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: ok i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: was pretty dumb of me actually
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: i never copied the new zipped files over the old program files
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: anyone know how to trouble shoot a apple airport express router?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: another thing i think could change, is the .gov extention on websites, since only america seems to have it's own - sort of nationalizing dns system
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: for instance, australia is .gov.au
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: canada is .gov.ca
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: america is .gov
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you want the US to all use .us?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: US also uses .us, especially for the state sites
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: nationalizing dns doesn't sound to be such a bad idea does it?  then if amazon.com wants to be amazon.com in venezuela, they have to abide by their rules
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: yeah there is .us too, but the government extension is still there
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you do NOT want nationalized DNS
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as in one country resolving "foo.bar" to a different thing than another country resolving "foo.bar" to
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: amazon is free to direct you to venezuelaize all queries from within venezuela in the same way that Google alters your landing page in other countries
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but DNS doesn't really work that way
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: i'm having trouble figuring out this apple router, I got my pc connected to the wifi, but it disconnects when I go 10ft away or more, though my android phone works up to 100 ft away on it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: also apple tablet works fine from a distance, while a iphone only connects when close, like my laptop
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you sure it's using your wifi and not someone else's?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: yeah, its connected to the correct network
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: a friend of mine has this apple router, i reset it to factory specs and redid everything, but it still isn't working right
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, are you sure it's using wifi instead of not finding wifi and using something else (3g, 4g, 4g lte, etc)?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: possitive, on my android I can see the 4g lte turn off and it switch to wifi, and it says, connected to the network I setup
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: weird thing is a iphone isn't working on it unless you get close, but the ipad does work
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: right now i'm on the network on my laptop, about 5 ft away from the router, if I walk about 10ft away it disconnects
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: how do I get rauctions added 
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: err sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: found it but hit enter :/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: hey guys
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: aliase for portals. get map bag= you dont see a bag
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: wtf is dat
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: wtb help with mapper via tell
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: TO FIX MY BOT
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: anyone using z 7.21 and knows how to setup the automap plz send me a tell......offer good tp for help
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: anyone use zmud 7.21?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: anyone know about xterm?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What about xterm?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: how
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Keep going...
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i'm on a wii with xxtterm i acant get the backspace to work right or stop the scrolling from breaking my typing
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, using raw telnet?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: the 2nd part of that is a simple command i forgot
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: yeh
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i'm an uber newb also
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i f
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Do what I'm doing and read the man page :P
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i figured out ho to do that thannks i'll study it harder :)
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't really use xterm though, do you have other terminal emulators available?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Also, try to get a proper client going so you can play with scripts and stuff :)
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: probabyly it came with  a default termianl
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks i'll check into i clients for debian squaaeeze linux for wii
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you have squeeze you should be able to run apt-get update and apt-cache search mud :P
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'm not sure what you'll find that way.  Probably mudlet.  It's not bad.  Definitely better than telnetting.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: when i was using telnet through xterm i would often get disconnected until i started using mccp
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can find tt++, tinyfugue, and mudlet on Debian, at least
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I like tt++ anyway, didn't really give tf much time.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I used tt++ for a while but that was a decade ago.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i'm gonna quuit and scroll up, write that down, and try it. bbl and thnx
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you should consider mushclient / wine
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'm using mushclient through wine now.  I ran mudlet for a while but this is much better.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: how to i take a on sreen photo and open it on paint?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: print screen then paste
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: print screen and copy paste?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WildWolfie Tech: press control + the print screen button on keyboard then in paint press control + V
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Any German users here? Checked out loosr.de yet? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: Hi, I'm using Mudlet with the MAG scripts and now every tick an empty line shows up... it's VERY anoying. Any help?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a DPS tracker out there?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: dtrack?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: dtrack can't differenciate between spells that proc 2 times compared to spells that proc 5-6-10 times
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: e.g....  spell X does 100 damages twice, while spell Y does 50 damage ten times....  
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: spell ex will average 100, but really be 200, while spell Y will do 500 damage, but Dtrack will show average 50
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm looking for a DPS meter that reports per-round damage
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: I want one to. That seperates party members damage into percent.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: Please, someone knows how can I stop a line to appear every tick in Mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type tick?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: still appears :/
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: it's like pressing enter with no command
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: every tick.. don't know if has something to do with MAG scripts
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: in triggers, under "delete lines" is this rule: "^--> TICK <--". Does it has something to do? maybe it's supposed to erase that line, but it's not working...
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolter Tech: any links for useful MUSHClient triggers?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolter Tech: well hell lol
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is a place Santa is from.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolter Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger Bast for a Mini-Window Setup.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for triggers the most useful are proably the one playing sound when GQ is announced and that notifying you when there are custom exits in room
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolter Tech: yeah... right now im trying to figure out the channel names... the Newbie channel has brackets around it yet the Tech channel doesnt.... hmmm
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: can mapper notes be multiline?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it is long enough.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i want to embed newlines, not wrap
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: looks like my AV receiver had hdmi break.  What sorts of user actions would result in that (besides obvious things like breaking off connectors or obvious-damage stuff like that)?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Have you tried obvious stuff like pulling the power, waiting a while, and trying it again? My bluray player occasionally forgets how to HDMI and needs the power cord pulled out to get it to remember.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: that usually a side effect of emi
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the blueray is the only thing on HDMI currently, but it works perfectly connected straight to the TV.  If I go through the receiver, I get sound but no video.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: Can someone please help me making a perl regex to prevent the "[317/317hp 446/446mn 681/681mv 5qt 146tnl] >" bar appearing every game tick?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try 'prompt'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, no
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah you could just turn your prompt off or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tickinfo?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, it's prompt after all. need to get another beer, i guess
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: I've tryed tickinfo, but didn't work
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's a prompt. dunno why you see it on ticks
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Do you have a plugin that's causing your client to do something that would get Aard to send you a prompt? Something like send a blank line?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, what bob said
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: it's possible, I'm using wudlet with the MAG scripts
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: mudlet, that is
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: Ok, I used "prompt" and it stopped showing it, but empty lines keep spamming, so I guess it's mudlet aardwolf gui's fault
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if one wanted to emulate the adjusted-for-visibility xterm colors in
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oops.  ...in clientside messaging, how would one go about it other than looking up echoed values in a preassembled list?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What are you talking about?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Aard parses some xterm colors for better visibility on the average monitor.  This produces differences in actual display (server messaging sent to the client) compared to raw xterm coloring (client messaging).  If I were to work with the rawcolors format, I think this would mean that the xterm code sent by Aard would not really show up the same if I were to use it in a client echo, and I'd like to process that difference out.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can see what I'm referring to by comparing the "color 256" list (what it looks like when Aard sends those colors) and the "color raw256" list (what it looks like when the client processes the equivalent xterm ansi code, ie, esc [ 38 ; 5 ; 123 m).  When I print a color, I'd like it to be the same as what Aard would show me.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, I see it mentions automatic brightening in 'help xterm'. Why wouldn't a map table work for that? You'd have to figure out which color is which, but once you have that making a translation wouldn't be hard.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just wanted to see if there was a more direct way than a lookup table.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: IDK, sorry. :/
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I got a problem with windows 8. Now I know what you're gonna say, but bear with me..
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: It shuts off with a fatal error (blue screen) like every 5 minutes
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I've googled, and I've shut off the 'fast boot' option
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: didn't really do anything.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: have you run a virus check?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Not any "real" virus check (norton/mcafee)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Just spybot or something
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nesta Tech: anyone knows what are some good plugins to use?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: bast plugins are always a good start
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nesta Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: finger bast for the place to download i beleive
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lets say i want to start a mud from scratch ...where would i start?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: line 1
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol :P i meen is there a generator or somthing? stock muds i could edit?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ROM
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not starting a mud from scratch tho
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: more seriously, I think you need to think why you want to do this? What sort of feel do you want to the mud? Or do you just want to play with the software? 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, if you can't google it and send me a tell instead you're probably not capable of running or developing a mud
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i want to make my own mud have a theme an plan all set up just need to make it lol :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be aware coding a mud requires VERY detailed knowledge of C and Linux, usually - you can try and fudge it, but you would most likely be disappointed with the results.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also I would say at this point dedicated new players are at a SERIOUS premium
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok it seems i would need a lasher clone to help me make my ideas real :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or you could learn to use google and write code
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Seltsimees Dagnir, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i use google daily and i can only do html :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: or buy a textbook on the subject
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yet you aren't capable of googling "rom mud"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i did rofl
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lasher is rather unique in that he has made a mud which stood the test of time, and rewrote the back end. I would guess you could get a something you could call a mud with at most .01 Lashers
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Seriously though, take a squiz at the top 10 muds wherever, and see how many list 'custom codebase' - I believe there is 1 only
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A mud is a bad first project outside of html, in any case. I would suggest something a lot simpler, like a Zork rehash or some such, while you learn
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: After the Zork rehash, try a Roguelike - then a mud, if you remain so inclined
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: this seemed a good idea before i asked...now not so sure lol
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could probably create a mud in emacs
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm confused why you would ever *want* to create a mud when THIS mud allows you create areas
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you can make fancy mobprogs to do special damage and give them special messages
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you can make an area with custom exits and all that fancy stuff
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: YOu create a mud so you can nuke players.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh, well, i didn't think of it from that angle
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Global Thermonuclear War.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: and soon discover that you have no players. ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Jaenelle.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seems like making a mud, in this day and age, seems like you're just begging to undertake a frivolous endevour
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or however them fancy words and speeled
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are*
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think that if you have some creative energy flowing right now, and you really want to share that with other people who like to mud, i would ask that you get in touch with the imms and try and become a builder...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'd say people create muds for fun. I've written a whole framework for a MUD, even had it live for a few seconds, and it was actually great fun.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sure, i'd hope that lasher made and maintains this mud because he enjoys both playing it and modifying it
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm just sort of lost as to why you'd waste creative energy on something almost no one will ever see and you will almost surely have to recreate whatever it is that you did there, assuming it's transferrable, to bring it here
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: when you could just do it here in the first place
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lasher's never going to let you in on the true backend code, but making your own areas, with equipment, a storyline, interactive mobs, meaningful dialogue in the area, descriptions that aren't ripped off wikipedia, and all that... that seems, to me, like a more worthwhile thing to do because the audience that would get to appreciate/enjoy/hate your hard work is larger
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That's like saying why would you build a house if you can just annex another room to your existing one, owned by a landlord.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no, i think a better analogy would be "why draw, what you believe to be is, a masterpiece on the back of a napkin just to have to throw it away, when you could draw it in a studio under someone else's name"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: building a house isn't something you tend ot share with people
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Scars, area development is not all that a mud is - networking code, combat system and spells, etc - I would say area building is perhaps 50% of the mud
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wasn't trying to imply that building an area was all that a mud is
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: just that it would be a more worthwhile (in my opinion, only) way to milk the creative juices as it pertains to muds
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You were saying outright that it was pointless to create a mud, because you can create an area here - I would say that ignores the other 50% of what a mud is
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And also the theme of playing. Aardwolf has a fixed style of combat, but what if you wanted to experiment with another style? I haven't played enough muds to know what an example would be, but I'm pretty sure it can't be achieved robustly through building an area.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There are many, many other combat systems out there for muds
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what i was trying to say was that building an area for aardwolf, an existing mud with a large playerbase, makes more sense to me than attepting to write a whole new mud
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't understand what's accomplished by making a mud that's exactly what you want it to be that no one else plays
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Depending on what you want, one or the other is the right thing for you. There is no definitive rubric to decide which one is less futile than the other
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: does aardwolf have any theme or can you just throw any kind of area/story in?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, i've tried to make it clear that i'm just stating my viewpoint on this... i really wasn't trying to speak authoritative, and i think you guys bring up some good points regarding the administrative aspects and things like combat mechanics
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no theme, to speak of
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, fantasy i suppose
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: isn't that genre?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: fair point
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aard has certain building rules in regards to theme, but fantasy is the overarching one
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And themes are subsets of genres, really
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: albeit, non-exclusive subsets
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: mmk
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Not to mention the seven others in there.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: got an alias from norton here... provided a few days ago, and I still don't really know why it works... ^mm(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but I do know that there is some wizardry in there that allows for spaces....
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my troublw is now that I need there not to be an extra space before the '%1'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am using it for a mapper macro that doesn't work if there's more than one space after "area".  e.g. mapper area  <room>
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there anyone here?  or am I talking at the wall?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: talking at the wall most like.... <sigh>
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hey... who left this beef jerky sitting here?  I'M EATING THIS JERKY.....  ANYONE THAT MAY BE HERE!
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how does one navigate up and down layers in the clients map?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I don't think Aard allows unicode in titles and/or pretitles, right?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone knows how non-ASCII characters might have ended up in ZMUD or MUSH logs?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm looking at a perplexing 0xff and 0xf5 in particular.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: unicode passes through the mud like so: Österreich
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that was for Trurien
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yeah, and it doesn't get caught in any logs, right?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: So by counting the number of 1s in the first character, you know how many bytes it is.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien puts his finger in his mouth and says, "Oopsie! Did I do that?"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what logs are we talking about?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: ZMUD and MUSH, apparently.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I've been trying to parse ANSI colours into HTML using a python script...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are logging to a file, then anything sent to the output will get into the logs
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But the system I'm playing with doesn't seem to work well with Unicode
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Problem is, though, 0xff is not a valid utf-8 character.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: So I'm not sure how it got in there.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it logs fine in MUSHclient, which has unicode support. Does ZMUD have unicode support? Maybe it does a bad conversion when logging.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Perhaps.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I couldn't imagine what might translate to 0xff, though, maybe something was shifted.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: 0xFF is s
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: special depending on what unicode it is
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: in utf 8 it denotes the BOM marking a multibyte char
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: hi:0
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: hello, anyone knows how to setup my character to spellup up each and evert 20mins?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: yep:)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: go to timers
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: add a new one set to 20 mins and type in the box spellup
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: do I need to have quest point to trigger the time?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: where, Do i have to do it on my client?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes shift + ctr + 0
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: should be at the top of the mushclientt a little clock
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: whats the help command for the spellup plungin again?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: which spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: im not sure which one it is. been a while since i logged in
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mm maby try spellup help
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: i may just have to reload the addon. strange that the triggers are failing
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: hm i think i might have deleted it. is there an updated one i can download? 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: spellup plugin that is. 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think so 1 sec
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so guys, new tomb raider game, yay or nay? I can get it for Ģ15.26 on steam as I still have a bunch of money left in my steam wallet
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Android Tech: mushclient, send a tell if you know about Run-Time error.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: yay then tell me if it's good
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: who uses sharptracker script?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: If I use SetVariable within one plugin, why can't I see it outside the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If I'm using VPN hosted in the UK, is there anyway to prevent browser redirects? For exaple, but not the only instance. If I go to google.com I automatically get directed to www.google.co.uk
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: proxy maby
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use http://www.google.com/ncr
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but probably there is no way to avoid redirecting, unles web page provide some method for it (like google with http://www.google.com/ncr)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: beautiful, thanks. But that only solved the google issue. The reason I chose to use a VPN was to avoid locality filters (not available in your country, etc) right now what I have to do is disconnect from the UK server, and connect to the US Midwest, or specific country .. is there a better way?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I don't think there is good solution to it, website chooses to serve only specified IP range and for rest of them do redirect
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in such case, you cannot avoid being redirected - because, even if your browser won't honor it - you won't get content
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some kind of solution could be using multiple proxys / VPN connections
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that would require more specialized software or at least modifying routes by hand
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, it is uncommon to use 10 proxies for web browsing - like opening 10 web addresses each of them reached by another proxy
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: did Cheezburger notice that UK google information is censored and USA google is not censored
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could consider renting some servers in different locations with VNC access and use it, but that is rather expensive solution
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, some content is available only to specific IP range, like watching BBC only from UK
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you can use some VPN located in UK to bypass this restriction
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the "google advanced" option "Find pages published in a particular region." also censored
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so how does google actually know where the request is coming from in the first place? it must find the originating ip/dns request right?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so a proxy takes care of being able to find the originating requestor
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can either query DNS records for given IP or check registrar name
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some proxys passes original IP to server
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: google does seem to supply some caching - but when i going directly to a website suggested by google, i do not click on the google weblink offered -- i launder the weblink so google does not know i went there.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is feasible for main page, for subpages it is often much easier to use google link (except that part that google "notice" using it)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok well an anonymous proxy would fix the requestor problem. so setup a website hosted in an uncensored country that has a anonymous proxy
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, that require either using open proxy (there are not too many good ones) or setting up your own, which basically require you to buy / rent server
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: interesting that google mentions website pages (dated to several years prior) that are discontinued,  (happens when a webpage account expires or is censored)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am really waiting for abe to come on and tell me why i am wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wrong on what part?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: umm i dunno am i correct this time?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, you are almost totally wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean proxy part
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: whew
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well abe i am sure would cover them all. how am i wrong though? besides buy/renting a server to host proxy program isn't feasible
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: imagine this scenario: I want to watch bbc (which require UK proxy) and read some russia news (let's assume it require russian proxy)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that scenario requires me to use 2 proxies at the same time - not hard to achieve, but it become more complicated when you need more proxys
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: k you can't just decide which address you have i see where you are going
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using 2 different proxys with single web browser is rather complicated
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that "censoring" happened recently - there is a scramble to find whether those webpages were mirrored elsewhere -- those webpages were mirrored, but in a tacky non-aesthetic form, flanked by lots of adverts attempting frame-redirects -- no longer a decent web-reference as a result
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nowadays you cannot trust search engines
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: yes you can, you can't put anything on the internet that isn't true.  Don't you watch TV commercials
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: thats how Al Gore made it when he created the internet :)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is a server to host proxy programs likely to run afoul of the recent laws in the USA overprotecting copyright
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: are TV commercials protected by copyright - with all those adverts on all those webpages, attempting to copy webpages from those websites may be a copyright violation ? - ironic in that the websurfer researcher does not want those adverts
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: hey umm i need help changing something...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: they have pills for that
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: tech wise
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: i am on an Android tablet and when i type look ( player name) it shows their desc
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: as it should
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: but i want to look at someone like.... Moonburst looks at you..... how do i find out what the command is and how do i change it?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it does exactly that
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: everyone else sees it as moonburst looks at weakling
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: this is not tech question, but newbie
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: they wern't much help either....
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: help shelp is thing you need to read
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it explains it all
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think he's complaining that he sees a players description when he looks at them, amirite?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: still newbie chan question
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ffs, it's not like there's anything else going on here
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: I am trying to change my alias for portals from bag A to bag B, is there anyway I can do a find a replace searching through all my alias?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ctrl-H works
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: ctrl-H from?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the keyboard.  How else are you editing your alias?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: virtual reality
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: ctrl-H brings up the command history.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: my portals are all in a bag. 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: change your alias that works with your container
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if your alias is get %1 30012291;wear %1;enter;wear helditem;put %1 30012291.....you just change that 30012291
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: number can be anything, and even alias
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: the problem is i have a whole lot and the slow and painful way is to open them up one by one and changing
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: so you did it wrong way?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: how about if there's anyway to open up all my alias in a text format?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: which file would i be looking for?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: actually no :/
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: which client do you use?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: in mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: or are you tzlking bout aard's in game alias command?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: in the alias window, click "save" to export your aliases
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: my bad, mush's aliases
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: open that file in notepad
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he has them as portals in aardmush portals command I think
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: I think I got the ans from Ophelion. but thank you guys
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: best way to do it next time is to split the commands. one does the portal changing, one is the portal command itself. as pcanyon as portal command for mushportal does alias trans 1002023 where trans is get 1002023 mybag
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then you dont have to change every one of them, just the bag. etc
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: yeah I would change the container id to be a variable. then it would be so much easier. just that i started doing the aliases long time ago and there were all hardcoded
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: might want to change it now before we have ALOT of more those portals in way or another :)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: sounds like a good plan cheers
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: So it turns out that the ff I was talking about before in MUSH logs was part of a three-byte string, 0xFF 0xFA 0xC9, that comes at the head of a GMCP line...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: does anyone know why S&D will sometimes search for the mob before running to an area?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: huh, TED thinks mobile devices are devolutionizing the internet
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: TED is not a person who can think
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger laffs.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's like "youtube thinks xxx"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: TED thinks 30 year old people should share a hotel room together for a week and not get paid for the their talks
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Youtube thinks your mother is a whore, and probably your sister too.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Watson thinks :P (well, you know kinda)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: not sure that "devolutionizing" is a word yet
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: youtube thinks your mother is your sister
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You mispelled the internet Jhav
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe 30 year old people can afford their own hotel room if they get to market their idea for free?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: if you are a ted fellow they wont let you pay for your own hotel room, its part of the experince
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that like a dapper fellow?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: TED = Technology Emasculates Dudes
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: doubt if there is a danger that the proliferation and popularity of mobile devices shall convince manufacturesr to cease and desist from manufacturing personal computers (due to the lack of sufficient profit motive) 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the issue is that users are changing how they regard the internet.  Something like Wikipedia might die off in favor of ecommerce or netflix.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: As long as there's schools telling kids not to use it, wikipedia will never die :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Doubtful.  Do you have any idea how much use Wikipedia gets? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: how does ecommerce kill wikipedia
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ESPECIALLY from mobile folks looking up random facts on the spot.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Let me look that up on Wikipedia...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Google Now uses wikipedia on anything you voice search, so yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mobile users are appearing less likely to contribute.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: It is harder to edit on a mobile device, to be fair.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Good. i dnt wnt 2 rd this knd of stuffs on wikipdia
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: also, teachers are using wikipedia just as much as the students are.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah lol
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They still (at least around here) push against the use of it for research papers and whatnot
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, to be sure.  Teachers still use it despite such admonishments to their charges.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Usually the first 2-3 entries on google, of course they do :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Wikipedia comes without those annoying adverts -- attempt to google and find an informative non-Wikipedia website without umpteen adverts attempting to burn mobile bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where are research papers going to get their references if everything informative goes digital. avoids paper, and charges money to access that information
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: There are reputable online research databases.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: university access accounts
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I never had a hard time reading papers when I was actually in school
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Engaged Garl Tech: Better get out of school before that happens;)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The hardest part was regurgitating what you found to make it sound more like something you would write :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Big Meaty Cheezburger, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so the likelihood is that non-university schoolkids and the common peasant are unable to access those "university access accounts"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sometimes if you want to look for a paper, just searching for the title and author will yield a few sites where you can get it. Often including the author's.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You can pay for access yourself, if you want to.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: doesn't matter because you'll never get a paper accepted in a reputable publication if you aren't affiliated with a university
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: You should probably start with the author's paper.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Uhhh site.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I think have been a few from industry.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Definitely much, much more common from academia though.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: school children and the common peasant are not going to pay for access
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: common pisant
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pissant
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: that's not always true... if it's a major advance it won't matter if you lack affiliation anywhere, it just needs to be well-written, and dump it on a blog or arxiv or someting.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: school children don't need access to journals
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: don't be disrespectful to the common peasant (seeking knowledge, or at least attempting to seek knowledge)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: in fact, in math you could just make a few smart comments on terence tao's blog and then place a link there and eventually someone will read it and it'll find its way into a major publication if it merits it...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: or something
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: next Fiendish shall be saying that poor schoolchildren don't require acces to a decent education, merely access to a trickle-down pissant education
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nor food or water
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the trouble with blogs, is all those adverts that interfere with the appreciation of the "blog"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: generally a schoolkid bright enough to benefit from reading an academic journal is going to be able to find access somewhere. Unless the country really sucks.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I don't see adverts
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: excessive copyright-protection may be the downfall of the human-race (several required things won't get invented due to restricted information access)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: chan...and you mean patent...copyright doesn't cover "inventions"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: alhough excessive patent-protection is bad, excessive copyright protection is likely also worse 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: excessive copyright-protectiuon restricts information access (so that things do not get invented -- cannot patent something that was not invented due to lack of information access)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so no, i did not mean "patent" 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you exercise your invention but don't patent it, others are free to copy your work.  If you develop something but don't share the idea, it doesn't matter whether you exercise your implicit copyright or not. :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Remember, copyright never covers the ideas, only the expression.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: excessive patents (which do not add new knowledge but only use old knowledge in an *obvious* new direction) are also bad, as they provide a disincentive to publish new inventions since frivolous patents block profits that were to be accrued from genuine new-value patents
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: software patents are extremely bad
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: in mush, can we put an alias in more than 2 groups?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you could make a second alias that just calls the first one
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: using.. Execute("otheralias")
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's spoofed
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: anyone on that can help with Mag?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats a good email program, use to use thunderbird dont know if thats still good to use or not
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: outlook or thunderbir
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean Microsoft Outlook, not Outlook Express
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm, is there any consider all miniwin plugin for mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: check gammon's forums, it will need to be edited a little
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i want to make an alias that abbreviates mapper find to mf, but i suck at coming up with syntaxes, and it wasn't as straight forward as i thought it would be 
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i tried just making mf, without regular expression, be the alias, and use execute
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and have the execute be mapper find %1
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: alias: send (mf *) Alias: mapper find %1 send to: execute.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but that did not work
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You're sure you have it sending to execute?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: and not world
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just mf would match only "mf", nothing before, nothing after
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you need the * for parameters, like cheez said
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: gotcha, that was the issue
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Does anyone know what's up with windows 8? It keeps shutting down
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Bluescreening and terminating
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: BSOD usually isn't the software...
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: BSOD usually isn't the software...
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sounds like it's functioning the way microsoft intended it to
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varas enthusiastically high-fives Scars!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: i don't buy MSFT OS's until the first SP
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars points excitedly at Big Meaty Cheezburger!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: samsies
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I'm hoping that with SP1 they'll fix the biggest flaw in Windows 8.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: you mean lack of start button?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: you know they're digging the bottom of the barrel when the new OS is modeled off their stellar phone OS line...
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Mobile is the way of the technology future, to be fair
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Some glitch other made it through to RTM; the "Start Screen" isn't optional :(
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You mean the missing package manager, missing security or the lack of multi user?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They'll eventually bring it back, but I doubt you'll see it in the first service pack
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Oh! And not being able to turn UAC completely off.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lowest might as well be off :P
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: tech is it just me, or are they ripping off apple?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: "might as well" isn't quite, I'm afraid.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Just asks for confirmation for downloaded programs, that's fine by me
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I mean, it looks like they're trying to mimic a lot of how OS-X works
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Sometimes, I would rather everything was forced to run with highest permissions.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: rather than if I'm doing something that didn't ask (or i forget to ask), it doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Varas: Nah. They just went the touch-screen route with is limited in how things can interact
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varas nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ylar, if you want to customize your os, windows is probably not for you.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: linux ftw
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I don't run Windows 8.  Win7 Ultimate, here.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Speaking of which. I ported Ubuntu Touch over to my GS3 (SCH-I535) ... it rules.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: and I sideboard Mint Linux for when I feel like going that route.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WildWolfie Tech: Win 7 Ultimate stays awesome ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i use win7
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just couldn't use an SOS where I can't do e.g. apt-get install gcc
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: but since a lot of what I do ends up being gaming....well...you know.  *nix isn't all the way there, yet.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Interesting typo there.... :D
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: linux requires too much savvy for me to spend time on
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's not as bad as it seems, truly
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: windows, after sp1, is always easier to deal with
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: cd (change directory) mv (move) cp (copy) .. (up one dir) / (root dir or subdir)
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Eh, Linux is ez-pz now if you don't have non-basic hardware
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: With those 4 commands you can do almost anything you want (almost, notice i said that)
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if it were *just* me using the computer, perhaps i would go down that route... but since my wife isn't going to entertain learning a new OS or whatever
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: dual boot mah friend
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and aside from being able to say that i use linux... why would i bother?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: download linux, and make it look like windows, and say they came out with a new update
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or just rollback to windows7/vista
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Scars.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WildWolfie enthusiastically high-fives Big Meaty Cheezburger!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ubuntu, for example, allows you to install inside of Doze for a dynamic allocation of the hdd
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's great... and for someone who's full use of their computer ends with internet browsing...
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: feels like a giant waste
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, if all you do is browse, you can use any OS. And Linux is free.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Cant' teach an old dog new tricks, eh scars? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Chrome OS is nice for browsing
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: money is hardly the issue
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: time is the issue
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It is also virus free.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WildWolfie . o O ( Anybody using the torch browser? )
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm actually pretty excited to see the Google Pixel. touchscreen Chrome OS lappy
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i haven't dealt with a virus in a solid 5 years or more
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: So is windoww if you don't try to watch 2hotlesbians.mpg.exe
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim winks suggestively.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: those are the best pornos though!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not dogging linux... not in the least... for people who use it, they seem to love it
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i just have no time or use for it
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim tosses HelperMan Hadar up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: my favorite thing to do on a *nix machine is to do --> sudo rm -rf /
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Speeds up your CPU by 250% :P
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: 8srun
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger fails to hit the shift key and 8giggles at everyone.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't have time to use windows, but hey, if it works for you, then no need to change.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: like removing system32 from a windows computer!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WildWolfie Tech: Lolz
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm curious why you need time to use windows?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Because I need to work, and that takes more time on windows.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I find development to be exponentially slower on Doze.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I asked my computer to sudo make me a sandwich and it just looked at me dumbly... stupid Windows
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger snickers with Xantcha about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WildWolfie Tech: Yeah windows is stupid like that
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ass Grr, he usually has one in his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar snickers with Xantcha about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ask* Grr
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: cheez do you know the best way to convert time to minutes? i have my time in epoch, so if i convert to a readable format, i cant convert that to minutes, unless i want a shit ton of checks for how many days were in the past month
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: tech = ft =/ lol
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: what does it mean when a certificate is invalid?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ~=*
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: the creator of the certificate is not a known/trusted source, such as digicert
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or it's self-signed
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it doesn't trust aard or facebook
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so my mf * alias isn't working how i expected it to
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if i type mf at the crossroads, it only searches mf at
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What's your match string?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mf * -> mapper find %1
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: try ^mf (.*?)$$ mapper find %1
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: after looking at it a little closer, it's actually searching the space
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: well, only one $, i double tapped
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's much better
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what's the period before the wildcard doing?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: . means anychar, the * means 0 or infinite occurances
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and the ?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: makes it less greedy
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks cheez
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: how do i stop my backspace key from acting weird?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: define weird
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i suggest setting it on fire
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ask Dfury to how to make D fury on it.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kev Tech: does anyone know Powershell that well on here :)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what is the smalest wow file you can get? that you can stil play wow with?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ? Are you space limited or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: space and the and the amount of data i have :P
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah. Both  will be quite limiting.. wow continues to download until you have everything, and it is current, not something you want to do with limited space/bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: even the original install was on 4 cds.. which would put it at 2.8gb, before being decompressed
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if bandwidth is an issue id try and find a DVD copy of the trial installer... but might be kind of hard to find these days
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: and even that will probably update itself using up lots of bandwidth. Even playing uses up bandwidth and data.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not as much data to play, its mostly going to be patching
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks :) guess i cant play then  :)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: youve been told as much before, saber
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: no...
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I'd not try playing wow on any sort of data limited connection or space limited computer. (yes yes, theoretically all computers are limited in their space, but you know what I mean)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: shrug. we've had nearly identically this conversation before saber
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not that it matters I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: how to choose a default operating system to run at startup in windows 8, I did a dual boot?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: depends on the boot loader
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: boot loader is windows 7, so I need to change it to be windows
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: windows 8
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Sorry for the long-response
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Windows 7 isn't a boot loader, it's another OS. You may want to check your BIOS, to see if you can set which HD you boot fromfirst. There is also something called "BOOTMGR" that Microsoft uses for Vista/7/8 that may be what you want.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: oops sorry, was trying to say "how can I change the windows 7 boot manager" need to make windows 8 as the default boot manager
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: win 7 and win 8 are Opperating systems not boot managers i thought
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: I did a multi boot system, so i need know how to choose a default Os to run at startup automatically
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have a little formula, n^2 - n = 90. I know the answer is 10 just by looking at it, but I cannot for the life of me remember how to determine that algebraically - any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: n^2-n-90=0 (n-10)(n+9)=0
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: n=10 or n=-9
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_equation
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: or graph it and go for the numbers where it passes the x axis
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: for the solutions
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: solution is closed form 
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh god damn it :-) I know the quadratic formula, but I never see places to apply it unless the = 0 is shoved in my face. Thanks, all. Dealing with positive integers only (permutations) so no need for the -9.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: negatives need love too...
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: we're alll getting old... I admit I couldn't write it down by hard anymore...:)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: fortunately now there's wikipedia :)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I made the mistake of not doing any maths after high school... now postgrad and everything is so rusty
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: tech i went to college and got a degree in math.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: still not sure why
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: but i did!
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Postgrad for Technology(CS), so mine is like a maths degree where I get to ignore several branches of maths :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: do you happen to know anything about wordpress theme frameworks btw?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Wouldn't it be difficult to integrate, Vakieh then?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: then, Vakieh* :P
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Integrating what now?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Just ask, Ullin.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not big on wordpress myself, no :-( All the websites I've made have been by hand. Useful, usually, but ugly as hell - I am no graphic designer :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yup, useful to be able to know how to code stuff by hand, I agree.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But what about Wordpress theme frameworks?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: shopping for a wordpress theme framework, being a complete newbie at CSS (And not intending to learn) pagelines look really ideal since looks like you can change all boxes etc in a visual editor...anyone tried it or has better recommendation?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Currently attempting to learn Drupal in my spare time (lol...spare)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Not tried that, Ullin, sorry.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But at least people who might have know what you want now.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: which one did you try/use?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: It's usually better to just ask the question.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I haven't gone far enough with Wordpress, I use stock themes and tinkered a bit with a built-from-scratch theme someone else developed.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But I'm not sure about a framework to make themes.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodarn Tech: so i accidently moved one of my plugin windows off the screen, is there a way for me to bring it back,i can see half of it but no handle to drag
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: reinstall?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: anyone get error on upbutton errors from winkle spellup?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: in mush mapper, can i manually change which room of an area is considered the first room? specifically, mapper seems to think first room of land of legend is one of the passenger cars, which is causing trouble because of the buy ticket/board thing
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Mush Mapper has not first room settings for an area.  Perhaps you are using Winlk'es plugins?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Don't use it, but I think you go to room and so xset mark or something like that?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: yeah just barely got it...ok i will try xset
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: worked like a charm, thanks so much
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: Ok, it's been a while. Before my last break, I was using an accelerator function for a combat spell key. Anyone know what that might have been? (in mushclient, that is)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hehe, checking my monthly bandwidth stats. nov 2012 ul/dl total was 1.6TB
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they gonna throttle you!
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. throttling and caps are unheard of here
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there a way to have Mush open a world on startup, but not automatically connect to it?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: File->Global Preferences then General Tab, top option on left, you can't specify a world, it is either on or off for all worlds
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: guess it must be broke, then.  It's unchecked, but Aard still automatically connects to Aard (without the autoconnect login info, it just sit at the login prompts).  I want Mush to open the world in offline mode.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the new connection plugin connects on load, iirc
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to open a second primary output window?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sometimes I wanna leave a list of stuff up for reference.. like inventories
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and this'd be doable if I could have a second output window to scroll in
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how about you look into making mini windows then
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... a mini window would be nice.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Bast has a really nice inventory display plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: like the main window... but smaller
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: if you want something pre-built
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: does it update auto matically?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i found the bast one didnt update the inv to well
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya.. that's why I asked
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Ah, I'm pretty noobish with it, so don't know its quirks
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Anyone use WinkleWinkle's spellup as a ranger?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lesphare Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: Ayup.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i use it as a mage
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: It doesn't seem to re-cast gaia for me, does it for you?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lesphare Tech: It doesn't, but I think that's due to the cooldown.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I briefly looked at the plugin and it seems like it should handle recoveries, but doesn't seem to for me either
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It doesn't cast spells (besides a single clan skill) that aren't included in spellup, afaik
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Idk if gaia is included in spellup, but I know quickstab isn't, for example
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lesphare Tech: Gaia is in spellup.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Oh, ignore me.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: and send a note to winkle!
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Gaias Revenge IS, Gaias Focus is not
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: I had to install the bast spellup
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Right, I'm talking about Gaia's Revenge
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: By the way, you guys should install the pirates plugins so you can use "pirate map" to launch a map of the area you're in.  You get to type pirate map!  http://www.aardpirates.org/plugins.php
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abunai Tech: so my internet suddenly disconnected me but it says im still connected to the router any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: gremlins!
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's folks using for an inventory window?  anything out there?  
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: is there a way to delay the movement from one room to another on mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is this for a custom exit?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: nope for an exit like kobaloi
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: going up
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: anyone around who could help w the aardMUSH client
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Maybe... what's your issue?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: well before I recognized its power, I managed to deactivate the mapper function
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: now that I know what I can do w it, I want it back but I've no idea how to do it
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what do you see when you type mapper help?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: Sorry Jilted, you can't do that. -or some other mudside error response
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: no thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: do you remember how you deactivated it?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: I don't
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: well, i use mudlet, so let me open up mush and see if i can deactivate it somehow
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: give a min
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: i need to log off here first...brb
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: hey I got it
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: lol nice
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: thanks for trying to help :)
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: mapper show would have been my first guess
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: How'd you disable it?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: what was it, by the way, just for reference
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: FWIW, I went to file->plugins and re-added the GCMP mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: I think I actively removed it
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite comforts ERMAGERD Jilted.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: not just diasbled but removed
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Ha, good to know for anyone else that this happens to!
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Ok, back to mudlet :)
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there anyway for MUSHClient mapper to open doors without violating policy #7?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: mapper help cexits
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ... hmm must not have gotten a help file with that... I get two blue bars with nothing between them.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I bet it's available online somewhere
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: imagoing to go look
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try "mapper help exits" instead, you could have found it by just typing "mapper help"
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and it has to be mapper help not help mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there we go... was close to finding it online... but this is better.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ok.. I can see where that's helpful... but that is for CUSTOM exits... I just wanna open regular doors and gates and such
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: to have it open doors you have to put them in as a cexit
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that is a custom exit ...  mapper open e;e
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: such a huge mental leap for such a mental midget as I... can I say the "M" word?  is that considered harasment here?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I sent you a link in a tell... it explains it quite well
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that'd be great... always like to understand stuff that I am implimenting
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sometimes you just wanna make a phone call... other times, you wanna know how to make a phone
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's some good reading... thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i have almost 1100 custom exits :p
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: bleh, make me check how many I got and takes forever to list :P
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it is local side not serverside though... I keep finding a lot of them now that i don't have passdoor
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: heh, and I've been deleting some now that I have that wish :P
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the piece about macroing the command is especially interesting... I think I will like it to the cnrl-numberpad-direction keys.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: like = link
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's another mapper question (ive been reading, so I'm dangerously ignorant) - when entering a custom exit where there are multiple exits available (like in 'Fractured lands') does the mapper look at the destination and determine which custom exit is appropriate?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: of course, same as any normal exit
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it only goes where you tell it to go, so "mapper cexit enter emerald" would enter the emerald portal and mark the room it ends up in as the destination for that cexit
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well see... there you go assuming that I even knew THAT much!  :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you're in a room with a north and an east exit, and your destination is north, then it won't go east, it's the same principle
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm going to go eat some dog food, or play with an electrical outlet now... something apprprite to my apparent intelect, or lack there of.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: ... those aren't really stupid things though.... if that's what your getting at
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm getting it... I might have been screwing up all my new c exits by not waiting, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Is anyone using the MAG for mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Anyone have a good reference on how to use MUSH JScript scripting?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: why would you want to? jscript takes extra steps to setup. Why not use lua which is built in?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: I use Javascript on a day to day basis, so I thought it would be easier.  AFter reading some stuff though, gonna use Lua, i use it for mudlet anyway, so no big deal.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: any
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: anyone have issue with their communication log for MUSH not showing chats?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: first, what version do you use? if it is not the latest one then upgrade (maybe this problem was resolved)
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Yes, it is the latest one from the site, r1748 i think
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: is what the changelog says
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean, your communication log is empty, or you don't see some channels ?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: my communication log was completely empty.  I just added the \logs\AardwolfChatLog.txt file and now the 'global quest' popped up in there, but no channels are showing
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: also, after global quest echo to main, i get "Trigger function "untagged_info" not found or had a previous error." in my main
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: i checked and all channels are highlighted via the context menu for comm log window
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check whether plugin "Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Miniwindow" is on
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: yes, all plugins are enabled
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this function "untagged_info" is used in 2 plugins: aard_chat_echo.xml and aard_channels_fiendish.xml - try to reinstal that plugins
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: just reinstalled echo one, but no channels one exists
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: so i resinstalled the mini window one and viola
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: so I think we're good here :)  thanks for your help/patience
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it would be good if you notify Fiendish about this error when he gets online
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or if it's a bug submit on the google code site
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Okay, I'm not sure if its a bug or not since I was trying to figure out how to show my skills/spells in a window, so i may have done something inadvertently 
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have not touched that 2 plugins - then probably it is some kind of bug, it you are able to reproduce it then it would be even better 
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: alright, i will tell him about it and if I am able to repro in my musings then i can send him that info also
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in mush, is there a special char that needs to preceed an alias when called from within an alias?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: why is it when I type "compare light", I get a comparison, but when I make an aliase "compl" which sends "compare light", I get "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles."?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: within the client?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the server returns "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles."
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so I would guess that I am sending something other than what I intend
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Is the alias in your client, or using the mud's "alias" command?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it echos correctly in the mud output window, but the mud don't like it.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: if you are using aardmush aliases.. make sure it is sent to world not execute
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: client-side aliase.. sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Hrm. Turn on 'echocommands' and see what command the mud thinks you're sending?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I checked that... it's "world"
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... BRB
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that was very enlightening... the server is not seeing the space between "compare", and "light"
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: those settings worked fine on aardmush only box clicked up the side was enabled. and send to wor
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: those settings worked fine on aardmush only box clicked up the side was enabled. and send to world
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so my alias sends "compare light", but the server sees "comparelight"
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I cut and pasted from a spreadsheet... my guess is that there is a hidden <tab> char in there instead of a <space>  all fixed now.... works great
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Sounds possible. Glad you got it working.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: great suggestion turning on "echocommands"
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I love echocommands. It's saved me so many headaches.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my objective was a "compare all" alias that would 'brute-force' compare every eq slot with my inventory to see if I might have picked up something good.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do i build in a delay into a custom exit for the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nevermind, i found it
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the mapper help searching display does not show me a way to do mapper find/list for just the area i am currently located... am i missing something, or is this a true limiation?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: limitation*
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: try mapper area <text> to seatch the current zone
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ah, perfect, thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mapper Area
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: how do I save a text file in .txt to xml document in windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: save as click file type
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: put as all files then add .xml to the end simple
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I add the dot xml extension but it still show as text file in type under windows 7
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You're probably hiding known extensions, and so aren't actually removing the .txt
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thats probably it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Tools -> Folder Options, uncheck the 'Hide extentions for known file types' box.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ok hold on
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah thanks jhav i havent had to do that
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I forget how to access Tools 
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: XML is still text.... :P
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to delete ALL cexits from an area?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could modify mapper to do so
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sounds scarry... I already use 'mapper cexit here', and 'mapper cexits delete'... but that's one exit at a time, and tedious.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: just purge the entire zone and remap it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: can always just start with a fresh install, but that'd be pretty annoying, too
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's what I wanna do!  didn't see a command for an entire zone, though... just one room, or the whole database
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: don't wanna start all over... I jus thave 4-5 zones that are buggy
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: mapper prugezone area. it deletes the area
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: without the typo
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: mostly because I didn't wait for the exit to registier while I was mapping
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's the typo?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Well that shouldn't matter, just go back and remap the exit.  I do that all the time and it's not a big deal
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: transposed r and u
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: readt it twice and didn't see it... vowels are extrenious to the human mind anyhow
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a command where - if I have clicked a room in the 'mapper area <room>' list, and the speed walk is interupted (like an agro mob) I can continue to that room with out having to list and click again?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: doesn't 'mapper resume' work ?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: dunno... that's probobly yhe command Im looking for.. thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Anyone pretty computer savvy - someitmes ( alot ) when i click a link or open a new explorer page - it says its stopped working and it resets 
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Anyone know where to set in MUSH to keep the last command in the prompt?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: sec, gotta find it quick
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: thanks, i set something in config, but it doesn't seem to do it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: i checked 'keep commands on prompt line' in commands under config, but no dice
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Check input -> commands menu
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: so Game -> Configure -> Input -> Commands menu
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: ahh, i checked the 'keep commands on prompt line', but that didn't work, so i checked 'auto repeat command' and that did it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite bows deeply.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: so I just created a second user account on my windows 8 computer, how do I allow them to access it or a login screen? there is no switch user button that I can find and restarting the computer brings up my main account asking for password
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone/
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: What's windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: windows 8 is the new version of windows for machines with touchscreens
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Seriously I am trying to figure this ut and its not workign lol
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: hey my pklug for search and destroy is stuck and ive try reinstalling it but cant seem to move it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: how can i arrange my search and destroy gui_2 window 
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: What's search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: winkles plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You kids and your newfound toys =P
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: back in my day we didn't have a fancy MUSHClient... we used telnet!
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you want to clear out us young whippersnapper's like in the zoo?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i am unable to move it or see half of it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's the mapper command to delete one zone/area worth of custom exits?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: RTM
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper delete exits seems sufficient
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: got to do 'em one at a time, though... I have a zone with over 20, and I messed them up
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so just go back through and redo it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: from the help mapper delete cexits           --> Remove the custom exits from this room
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can purge and re-explore the area, or you could edit the database
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: easiest solution is the one i suggested, imo
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can list the exits in the area using mapper cexits here to see the ones you need to delete
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: editing the DB seems a little scary... the 'purge' sytax is what I wa after
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i still don't understand your motivation there, but hey, do your thing
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... and there are over 20 to visit and delete... I was just looking for something faster is all.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper purge cexits would remove all cexits worldwide...mapper purgezone would remove all info about a given area
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't understand how this is faster when you must go back through each room and do it again anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what exactly is "wrong" with those 20 cexits?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I want running thru mapping them without waiting for the confirmation... so the DB thinks the custom exit for a room is several rooms removed from teh actual exit
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you could go back and just redo the action
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, as scars said, you'll have to go to each of those very same rooms in order to re-do the cexit properly
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so mapper goto <first>, mapper delete cexits, mapper cexit newaction
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not all that sure that mapper delete cexits is necessary if the action is the same
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but there's nothing wrong with doing it anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes, I could...  or I could just dust off my 'ol monocromatic vterm and have a REAL mud experience...  I appreciate your advice, Scar.  you've been a big help before, but you seem almost offended that I'm looking for a more elecant solution here.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, you're probably correct
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it's not a more elegant solution is the point, though
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I suspect you are correct...
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i just don't want to see you accidentally delete more than you want to, and i don't know how you get to what you want
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if there were a command to delete cexits thisarea, you'd STILL have to go to each room
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you purge, you lose all custom exits
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you purge the zone, you lose your map
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you just have me confused, that's all
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: since we've been chatting, I'm about half way thru anyhow... might as well finish the manual way.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thats the spirit
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: BTW... my vterm has the super-cool AMBER screen... not that tired old green.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what's the non-manual way?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: unless you happen to know the room numbers that each of those exits lead to, there's only one way to map them...
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the non-manual way is clant hey guyz, can i has a mapper file?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I had considered digging around for DLable map files, but then I figured they'd have too many errors to suit me, or they'de pre-date zone changes... or they'de have hidden commands like "send X gold to xxxx"
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: or a favorite of an old MUD I played... a popular and useful script would send insulting tells to the IMs, and would hide the echo so you never knew.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I was about to say that a mapper file couldn't send commands like that, until I remembered the cexits
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in her presence.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto smirks.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... got the zone cleaned up... now I need a shower 'cause I'm all sweaty fro the manual labor
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's way too much info, but ok!
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I presume someone has the labor-of-love keeping the mapper and other MUSH/Aard client modules current and working?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's fiendish
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's the maintainer of the aardwolf MUSHclient package, with links to him and the project on the aard website client download page
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: good to know... does he ever make improvements?  it's all very functional as it is
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: constantly
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The "official releases" on the Aardwolf webpage are fairly infrequent, but you can get beta versions.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the google code site, click source, click changes (or click browse and read the AardwolfPackageChanges.txt file
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: befor I send a note, has it ever been recommended that the "mapper area <room>' results be numbered such that you could type "mapper goto <z>", rather than clicking on the room from the list?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: of curse, you could type in the long number...  a short cut wuold be quicker, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're numbered, in that you mapper goto <roomnumber>
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... I do use that from time to time.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Probably need to use letters for the results, to distinguish between a room number and a result number.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that'd be a good idea
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but what if, after a mapper area/find search, you want to go to a room which has that very number
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: good point
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my feeling would be that he wouldn't want to add it, simply because it's close enough to autopilot as it is...but it never hurts to ask...I'd suggest posting on the site
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or make a patch :D
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I noted he has a a comment board... I might do that... after a few days
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hehe... who <spins around>... me?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you'r talking to a guy who just messed up an entire zone of cexits
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: about 15 years ago when I was playing medievia, I remember really struggling with the ZMud automapper... this is soooo much better.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well in Zmud's defense (I never thought I'd say THAT) there's been a lot of code changes and server-side support for the mushclient mapper added.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc tempts Metria back to Tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I still use TinyFugue for everything BUT aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sorry Abelinc, the mapper is just too damn useful :D
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I wonder if Medievia is still kicking
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is there a mapper command to show statistics about the current area you're in? (Number of rooms mapped, etc?)
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: 'mapper unmapped' mighthelp out
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: shows all rooms with unexplored exits
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in a zone
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rimno Tech: when i try to donate from aard site, paypal say my transaction couldnt be completed. any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: try using someone elses CC?  JK!
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: use a diferent payment method
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: most likely it's an issue from your end... security check or one number off on the CC, etc...
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rimno Tech: is there a different payment method?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Paypal's usually good at telling you why it failed. If it didn't then sign back in to check if it went through.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rimno Tech: i tried other sites, and had no problem paying with paypal. only aardwolf doesnt seem to accept may payment.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Maybe you should paypal me some money, as a test.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: looks like Heroku is having server problems
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: man they just can't get a break
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone use the Flash client over here?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh i thought that was a joke....
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Heh Remarto, it's a good starting point for those who don't have Java on...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legiko Tech: oo interesting
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it really isnt that hard to get jarva..
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: Java*
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legiko Tech: well more or less.. ahaha downloading this aardwolf client and all.. 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yep, it also isn't that hard to get Flash.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legiko Tech: im playing on the flash client atm.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: From the clients command, I'm not sure how many others use it though.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legiko Tech: not so sure either.. haha but i like the idea of installing it and being able to open it without it being apart of my tabs
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: cMUD question: how many lines of scrollback do you keep in your main window?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well would you look at that :-) Finished setting up my new network structure, set it to live just now, Aardwolf ping times dropped from 388ms to 270ms average :D
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: now see if you can set up a newer version that drops ping time below 100
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ping direct from the ISP is 215ms :-(
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: damn having signals sent half way around the world. so incosiderate
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I KNOW< RIGHT!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: < = ,
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: hehe 242ms here in Canberra
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Canberra has the NBN, you on that yet?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: ADSL2 iinet
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: wagga is getting delayed in the rollout. apparently there was no planning with any of the other services for where pipes/wires already were
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, that makes me feel somewhat better about my 78ms pings
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: so last i heard getting pushed back at least 12-18 months :(
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain rapidly nods twice at Rusk, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: does ping time REALLY matter when a round is 2 sec?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Round is 3?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: 3 sec iirc
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you may be right... 3 I think
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: but for scan in laser etc, yeah, can matter
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not for combat... but for just navigating it does... when you hit 'inv', you don't wanna wait
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Aussies should get xp bonus then!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain shouts out, "AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!"
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: An everything bonus based on ping - I support this
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I should be at LEAST t5, only my ping lags me out...:-P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: sure it isnt random gossip vakieh :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Shush you
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto screams out, "OI OI OI!"
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: if your not in nsw, you dont count either
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusk's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A minor side effect of this is I can get some pretty freaking huge rates of transfer from the SSD in my server to the SSD in my PC :-) Not sure why I would need to do such a thing, but I am having a lot of fun saturating this gigabit
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto hops up and down shouting "Boogy Woogy OOY!!"
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No Remarto, the New Zealand version is 'Hakka Hakka Hakka: Baa Baa Baa' 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: atleast im not nsw
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: remarto, thats only cause you suck
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sydney, w00t w00t
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Vakieh!!!  Rusk cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I like roasted roo
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mmm roo steak
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and roast kiwi
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is so sick that he tells everyone "I gotta barf!".
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: nope. only have sausages in fridge atm. want some roo mince for bolognaise though
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: um shouldnt this bee on goss lol :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Kangaroo is great with tzaziki
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: kangaroo is great with most things :)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Kangroo is just great
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at RedRain, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: how do I set bbssh so I can scroll up?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how would i capture colours when im getting text from the mud with a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: is there a way to switch my portal directory from my current mapper portal list?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What do you mean portal directory?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: ahh wait i got it sorry for bothering
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone have recommendation on shared hosting service? Looking to spend ~ $5-8 / month for a couple domains and email..
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I use justhost, but they aren't any better/worse than the next
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SouLzier Tech: Hello I am experiencing a problem on my tablet . . . basically help files and announcements that have a lot of text are cutting off after so much text. I do not get to view the entire contents of Text files such as these.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: you would normal send a blank to opage down?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: you would normaly send a blank to page down?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SouLzier Tech: I'm not understanding you? o.0
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SouLzier Tech: I'm normally paging down by touch 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: when you open something big there should be like a page boarder with settings 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: like this [ Paging : (Enter), (T)op, (Q)uit, (B)ack, (R)efresh, (L)ast, (A)ll ]:
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SouLzier Tech: I understand can you explain how to view the rest of the contents of the files?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SouLzier Tech: Problem solved. Thank you. 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: changing your pages setting on aard to 40 'pages 40' that should help 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I just started getting an error window pop-up when I go to MUSH settings... "not a valid base64 string. incorrect length (not mod 4)"... nothing seems to be broken... what's wrong?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: select some text, then do ctrl-c to copy to clipboard, then try again
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that seemed to clear it... thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: next... what's the command to show what the mud is actually seeing when I send a command?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echocommands
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: someone familiar with ASUS x73b
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: laptop
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: how's wireless network handled there.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: switch or keyboard combo?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Dexter: 3 questions before someone answers.....Nice.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the perimeter of the thing...if there's a switch, then switch...look at the keyboard...if there's blue or other-color icon on a key for antenna function, then it's keyboard combo
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: there you go.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: well i googled picture of laptop keyboard
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: seems to be fn + f2
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you do that?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you either have one, in which case you look at it...or you don't have one in which case who the hell gives a crap?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: just to help my father who calls me 10pm from ski resort in lapland *sigh
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: obviously things arent too easily explained to older people. :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than googling a keyboard picture, you could just download the pdf manual directly from them
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: we have two Asus laptops
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: neither of them have hardware switches
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: obviously things arent too easily explained to older people. :
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: my Lenovo has both but the software switch is on by default if there's no software installed.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there anyway to kill all the jobs scheduled with unix 'at' command, or just the first one? These are jobs that aren't yet running btw.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can atq to list queue, and atrm or at -d to delete jobs...I'd suggest using letter-designated queues if you plan to use at routinely
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But other than usinig atq or at -l to view the list is there a quicker method of killing them all or killing the first one?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Or if I could just control the job idenifier like it sounds like you're suggesting using letters that would also work.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't control the job identifier, you control the queue name, so you could associate types of jobs with a particular queue to list and manipulate that separately from others...at really isn't a tool that is normally used for things which you would want to arbitrarily delete jobs of without knowing which job it is (i.e. without atq and reading first)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I suppose I can write a script to read atq output and remove the first job found
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ultimately I just want a #delay that overwrites and runs outside the client.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That way if I restart my client the delay doesn't get killed, but also so they don't pile up on each other.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can always sudo manipulate the /var/at/jobs directory...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: shell account, no root :(
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: can you think of a better way to accomplish what i'm trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't quite understand what you're trying to do, what sort of a delay are you trying to make? I use my in-client /repeat and /at for anything I need
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: just wanted to express my sincerest gratitude to everyone who encouraged me to use the mapper instead of setting up aliases like i would have in the past
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my gaming experience, as a result, has been soooo much better
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Abe: I want a gq timer/alert that runs even when I close my client to swap characters.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a GQ timer is less than useless when you're not logged in
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'd be logged in on my alt.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so leave it in-client
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I have to close client to swap chars.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and? you don't keep any statuses or variables between sessions?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I keep static variabls
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no such thing...those are constants
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes, then I keep constants.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: amazing that you have no variables :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: write the timestamp of last GQ event to variable...on load, make your timer based on that in-file variable
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but even if you continued to use "at" from shell, why would you need to delete...you can't have had a GQ called before the next GQ call, so the time would've already passed for the at command...what is the purpose of deleting?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Because the multiple gq end messages cause the delays to pile up. This is due to the extra time messages and then completions or not afterward.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only make the delay on the real one
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: there are explicit messages when a gq ends
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: extra time shouldn't affect that
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It changes the time until next gq
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: the extra time affects when the next gq starts or else winkle's tick timer wouldn't get thrown off the gq times.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can't just set a timer based off the "has been won by" message. There could be extra time, and then there could be completions in that extra time.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You bury your face in your hand and sigh.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So the delay has to reset itself on those follow up messages.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: when did i say to set a timer based on the "has been won by" message?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i said there are explicit messages when a gq ends, whether or not it's in extra time
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: there is a message when the gq is over in addition to who won it
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chroseph Tech: Ixle, so are you thinking gq timers are somehow based on real time rather than the time in between actual start and actual end of the gquest?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No, I'm saying there are multiple messages that could mean the global quest is actually over.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: why is that a problem? make multiple triggers
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Just because someone wins now doesn't mean it's over and a timer should be started.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there is never a question of which one means the GQ is over
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i understand that
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trig off the note post message for when the GQ is over
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: so if it isn't over, don't start the timer
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's not a bad idea Abe
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: there's a clear message that says when it goes into extra time
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if you see that, don't start a timer
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I've been setting a delay on the "has been won" message, and the resetting that delay on the other possible messages if they appear.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to do that, and that solves your at issue :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes, I agree Abe, that'd be a simpler way around it.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: nod, the notes method works if you want to sub to the board, but it's by no means necessary
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an easy 1-trig method with no logic required :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But, the way I was doing it you both understand why there needed to be multiple trigs that reset the delay right? Seemed like you thought I was crazy :p
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Made sense to me, just not how I would suggest doing it :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: sure, you were just doing it a strange way :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course I sub the board simply to capture it to file, so it'd make no difference to me...without it, you'd need to create a trig that counts ticks to know when 3 minutes have passed, etc
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: see, there's the message right now... Global Quest: The global quest will go into extended time for 3 more minutes.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if you see that, don't start a timer, cause you know it's in extended time
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Right Celanil, but that message doesn't always appear. So there needs to be a trig on the previous line too.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you must start a timer or counter
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Which means the timer was already started
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, don't start it in the "has won" trigger
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You have to to catch them all
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start it on a ""
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Some gq's end with only that message.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: your "has won" trigger should enable a second trigger, that matches any line
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: in that trigger, check if the line is the extended time message, if it isn't, start the timer
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 possible endings...first-win...last-extra-win, and tick after 3 mins
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: not overly complicated
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but because of tick after 3 mins, you do need either an increment trig or a timer
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't like having actions that match any pattern. Since tt is picky about only matching 1 trigger at a time it could lead to trouble.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or match on new post which works 100% of the time ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: is there no message on global chan when it ends?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: hmm, thought there was
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Actually there's another possible ending, which is a no-win.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: couldn't you just have a gq history and gq check populate your timer?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: true, but that one hasn't changed with the extension
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sorry, gq ranges, not check
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trig patterns necessary if not using the note are Global Quest: The global quest has been won by Foo - Numbered win., Global Quest: No active players remaining, global quest is now over., and tick after 3 mins
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yep, was using all those and just resetting the delay seemed the simplest solution.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Works great so long as I don't close client.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just don't set delay on the first one and you're good
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have that one set two triggers, one on the extra time and one on blank line
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i guess i'm confused as to why you want to know exactly when other gq's start, but i'm sure you have your reasons :D
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whichever one fires first "wins" the determination of whether or not to start the delay
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so he's not on the crapper, just in case
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: laptops ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (only half joking ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I also like to watch for gq's that are a level above me
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or even 2, if it's lowbie
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zibest!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Abe that system would work but will still cause multiple at jobs if I try to go back that route.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd only be starting the job at the right time
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trig on the win message (set variable started_at=0) to look for the existence of extra time...if no extra time, do at (started_at=1)...trig on no active players, do at (started_at=1)...trig on tick after 3 mins, do at (started_at=1)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: checking for the started_at variable ensures you're not duplicating it for that 3-minute tick after it's ended another way
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I think I got it now. Thanks for all the help.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: any windows 8 super-users on?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: depennds on what you mean by super-user
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Windows 8 is a bust.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes it sucks
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: bring back win 3.11!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: familiarity with Hyper-V
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: bring back win xp
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, Windows 3.10
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: 3.11 for workgroups!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: What's Windows XP?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jangel Tech: Linux pls :)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards [Outlaw] Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: punch cards!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: what was that MS DOS program in 6.22 that had like text windows?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone recall the S&D Gui reset command, thought it was. Xset gui reset, doesnt seem to work though
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: why do i randomly try to wear something without even pressing a key? all i have are a few alias set...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: botting
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: how am i botting
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elchanan screams loudly!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i dont even know how
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elchanan is placing around a lot of huge bot traps with 35.princesses as bait!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: by doing things automatically without knowing why
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto screams loudly at Zimzar.  Better leave before [Outlaw] Remarto blames you, too!!!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you said
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: all i know how to do is assign alias's, i know nothing at all about botting
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: allegedly
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: this problem started a few months ago
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Beat your bot like you beat your meat!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: what aliases do you have?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and you're just asking about it now?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: botting
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: boton, botoff, the usual
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: when you started writing big aliases?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: its been buggin me, i've asked about it before ithink
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i just got simple alias's
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: like to cast a spell with one button
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or to clear an area with one button
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: or clear wyrm with one button
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish enthusiastically high-fives Endtime!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: let me guess, you aliased p to something, or something like that?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: oh i have 2 alias's to change from weapon to portal
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Weak sauce, I use to do a 1 Tier with 1 Button!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: does it happen when fighting a mob? some stuff is scripted to do that
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: actually i think p is my portal yes!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endtime goes ooOOooOOoo at Doink.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol p
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: jesus
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that was fixed veeerry recently
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: no mainly just when i'm not doin much it just randomly happens
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: temporarily don't alias p
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: now it just said your race does not ahave a data wear location.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks i'll unalias p and see if that work
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: p data *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's because "p data" is a way to see what your prompt is set to
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the new version uses the full "prompt data" command
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks alot guys
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: a lot*
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: who uses prompts? so v2
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: Don't make fun of me using prompts.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i use it cause i'm a newb, its convienent for me
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you update to snapshot r1748 of the mushclient package this problem will go away
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a stock plugin which checks your prompt to ensure it ends in %c, and it sends "p data" to do that check (as Fiendish says, the new version is more specific)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people still use prompts
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still use prompts
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how do i find out what my current version is?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's some data which is best represented by the prompt
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type 'checkversion' 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have a 2 line "prompt"
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but since you are having this problem you can know that you don't have the latest snapshot
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: MUSHclient Package version: r1557
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: <-- no prompt
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Bots don't need prompts
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain jumps up onto a table and shrieks 'EEEEEEEK!'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks again, gonna log out and get the new one
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: was wondering... is there a way to set a weighting of some sort of custom exits/portals in newer versions so that you do get the fastest path? Haven't updated in a long time...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it calculates the fastest path
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all connections get unit weight
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: He's talking about room move costs
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: room move cost doesn't change speed
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: some portals take more than one action
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: some situations make raising a room move cost needed
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: at the very least it'd be wear portal, enter, so that's two...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: 2 pulses > 1
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is there some easy way to upgrade or do i have to extract a .zip into a directory manually?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's already known
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the answer is no. a proper cost based calculation would, I think, be on average slower to complete and much more complicated to implement
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: Actually, before I decide to update the client, I want to know if I should let it install where it wants, or if there's a better spot for it.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and custom exit already trumps walk
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah... I was thinking it'd be a lot of work...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no installer for it, draris
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a zipfile that you unzip wherever you want it
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only thing I'd suggest is to not put it into program files
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: >_> Yeah, I put it there. where is a better place?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for my sanity please limit the bounds of "wherever you want it" as abelinc suggests
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and unzip it separately from where you currently have it, keeping both until you're happy
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you use Windows Vista or later, Program Files is off limits unless you disable UAC 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: personally, I put it on my desktop, and renamed the old one to mushclient old
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or customize it in a way that I don't need to explain because you already know
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but I suppose if you hate desktop clutter, then that's not ggod
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: UAC...I think I need to murder that.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have mine in my documents folder
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: desktop for me
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: Ok, I'll put it where it wants to install by default. Which is my desktop.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c:\mushclient, my docs, etc...you can put a shortcut in your start menu if you want (but you'd need to update that as you update MUSH packages)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it doesn't want to install anywhere by default...your web browser has a default download location
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you actually have to update a windows shortcut if the exe changes instance?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I like to dump stuff on my desktop. When it gets too messy I put stuff in overflowfolder1,2, etc. Still looks like a mess, but...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I thought it just pointed at address
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Only if the actual filepath changes
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: Let me believe that Mush knows best Abel. >_>
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but new download is a different exe location
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless you replace the old one
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush would know best...but the mush package doesn't have any knowledge whatsoever draris...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I call that combat pingpong.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it didn't have anything to do with choosing the desktop...that was your web browser, not mush
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's kind of weird. this is the second report of someone aliasing p very recently, and the p data thing happened a long time ago.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: get them to alias _p 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusk looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alias your face
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the new version uses the full prompt data command. it just would have been fixed a long time ago if anyone had been aliasing p at the time
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i had a problem with my aliases also, found out it was bast eqdb plugin.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: well i never had the problem, but i updated onlly last week...first time in over a year
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: most people don't upgrade stuff unless they have a problem
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's true
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wish everyone were as compulsive about upgrading as I am
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: 1557 here ... and plays jsut fine
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: which is why once you have a tiny bug, you'll be bugged about it long after you patched it...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have lots of tiny bugs
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish: I do an "svn update" just before I open mush
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: microsoft taught us all never to upgrade straight away. wait 6 months  for bugs to get ironed out
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you get a bit more notice than everyone else about the updates tho ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: my academy portal was set to go into my aard bag but went into my satc for some odd reason.. i didn't set anything in the eqdb plugin but once i uninstalled it, my alias worked just fine.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: my version is so old it still sends that empty run thing when running with the mapper...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are a few really good changes between 1557 and 1748
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: empty run thing?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: like run, then some other command, etc. Fixed a long time ago. I've been telling myself that I ought to upgrade it for months...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i just tried to upgrade from an older version of mush to the latest and it didnt keep my settings - i have put back a backup - found the instructions on the website on how to upgrade but there are many many things to copy - is there a simpler way to copy over old settings and db?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there aren't many things to copy, it just looks like there are
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are only three files and a folder to keep. mushclient_prefs.sqlite, Aardwolf.db, worlds/Aardwolf.mcl, and worlds/plugins/state
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: k, ill try again
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then any 3rd party plugins, although Bast's are all a single folder which covers most in one go
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you are using Bast you should check the Logs folder for his db
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, good catch...not sure why he chose there for that, it's counterintuitive :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what does bast's db keep that matters across instances?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: stats - quests/cps/gqs/levels/pups done and timeframes
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: quest stats are silly
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your equipment
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hardly - average times and rewards are a nice metric to have
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: quest rewards converge on calculable limits
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you may consider them silly, but they're the entire reason to have some of his plugins loaded :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: average times converge on calculable limits?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: rewards
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: average times are just unimportant
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rewards weren't mentioned :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Also, you can tell things like how many qp you can't per remort, or how many gqs you won over a tier
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vakieh Tech: Hardly - average times and rewards
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: can't=got
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: {This Mort} Time: 7d 21:42:47 Levels: 109 Exp: 647,883 (251,053 bonus) Kills: 3,057 Gold: 1,404,467 Trains: 441 (85 bonus) Pracs: 864 Quests: 52 Campaigns: 12 (1583 qps) Trivia: 2 Bonus Stats: S{7} I{7} W{4} D{6} C{8} L{7}
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: like so
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, they were mentioned as an aside after 8 other things :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the all-important: Vorpals: Since Today 2, Since Added 8821 :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My average quest time is sitting at 1:31 - I like to see how much lower I can get it, it was 2:00 when I hit r7 SH
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: W00T, 693 vorpals since ever - only added vorpal flags a few months ago though
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't monitor average over all. you should monitor a sliding window
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Huh? You mean the main window?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: quests from a year ago shouldn't influence the number you see
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So delete old entries if you want - I like the total ever myself
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, I've had vitae's stats tracker for 550,276 quest QPs, 58,764 campaign QPs and 29,456 GQ QPs
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: basts does it pretty well
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: keeps track of all components includier tier bonus, lucky etc
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's the thing, Fiendish, you can look at the values during many arbitrary window in a nice db system (not mine, Bast's)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In any case, if I was to upgrade my Mush and lose my stats, I would be pretty pissed - hence the note to look in the Logs folder
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you don't have your bsp setup aliased, the state file for that one is a good one to hang on to, also
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Group) Cain killd Abelinc: 'Completed quest in 30s'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 3000 BC, you mean
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, that is your pretitle, thought you were grouped with someone named Cain who was emoting... nvm
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course my qtimes are also tracked on teh intarwebs database :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://twitter.com/aardabelinc
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: having pretitles off makes for much less confusion most of the time, but SERIOUS confusion when people cut and paste occasionaly
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx is agreeing with that Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: occassionaly...occasionally? idk, you work it out
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretitles are often cute, I like seeing 'em...and gmcp gives you the player's name in a separate field ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any theory heads out there? In an expression x + y = z, I know the + and = are called operators, but what are the x/y/z called? Not variables, they may well be constants, just the name for the value parts of an equation.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: terms
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: they're variables though.  Inputs for a better term
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: at least in math they are terms
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Terms, that's the word I was looking for, thanks :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: whoa whoa wait. i was right?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: although z wouldn't be a term
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In boolean it is, I had just forgotten :-P Dealing with 10yo knowledge here, it takes a bit to pull it up
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Far more used to compsci, and calling them variables
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: damn 10 year olds get a much better education than i did
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: anyone know how to change the background pictures of aardwolf mush? i have a background set but it seems to be under the wolf
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: hi all, is there any forum or "help manual" for script something in lua? i already went to mushclient site but can't find all i want, any advice?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try 'mush lua forum' in google
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: tks
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: documentation page should help also
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have specific questions you can always ask here, though you should first get familiar with plugins folder in your mush installation
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, if you want to do something specific just ask - maybe someone has shared solution for it
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: lame
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: whoops wrong chan
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oxidize Tech: I am playing an alt and my bastmush is not functioning right...when i use basthunt it finds the mob and the room but only in text...i can't run straight to the mob in my cp's.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's so sad
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what is sad?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: channel history
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the inability to basthunt?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think mapper does a lot of work, the guy that wrote automapper is a genius. :p
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto nods at Ontuct and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't agree
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you don't like the guy?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hate him
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he's a jerk
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish = Auto Mapper guy writer. *innocent*
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: any mirrors in the house of fiendish?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they're all broken
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I went through 3 remorts before I took the time to see how mapper worked lol
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Flippant Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ten years and still haven't used a mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: me neither
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you hate fiendish too dagnir?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: altho i think i'll use it to bot cps next tier
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is cMUD dead now?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I already botted all the cps. none left for you.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cmud is still the 3rd most used client
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: after zmud and mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am curious to know who the Unidentified/Unkown clients are.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well...it's actually quite easy to use one of the known clients without sending a valid identification string to the server
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: custom clients? i know two who have written their own mudclients
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for a long time my client was called HACKEDBYTHECHINESE
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it was still either zmud or mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how aprapos
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: was it your client that ruined the iranian centrifuges?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: should be renamed NK_Aard_Client
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it isn't an easy task to convert an aq to a goal, it takes coding and testing, which can take months
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: where's the setting in MUSH and/or aard that will reduce the number of CRs being fed to the screen?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type info
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: compact
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Deaths.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think he means Deaths Fiendish
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: CR is carriage return
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and it means carriage return too. 
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no... it was carriage return... thanks fiendish... that'll help
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vonliege: compact will get rid of all interline spacing. is that what you want?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: though I have typed "CR" in the q/a channel plenty of times =)
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and meant Corpse Retrieval... though in this case, I ment [return]... didn't even thin kof the corelation
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looks much better.  I can now get from recall to the healer without 3-4 complete page scrolls
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but there's still three blank lines between each block of information... must be something in MUSH settings
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you using something like Winkle or Bast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am.... bast.  couple mini-windows, contemplate color... the usualls
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's not what I would call a huge issue... doesn't even really qualify as irritating... irksome, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hate compact mode. much harder to read
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: fiendish - if no ones bent over and kissed your feet yet today, consider it done... thanks for keeping up with the client and all
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: how do you delete an area from mapper again?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it says when you enter the area
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mapper purgezone <area>
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: If I log in with mushclient it changes a bunch of settings should I switch away from mushclient. How do I turn them back to the way they were?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: complain to lasher and ask him to make tags settings temporary per login session
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay in the mushclient ive lost my heal/mana/moves bar miniwindow, how do i get it back?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what did you do
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You mean it's partially obscured behind another window, or it's totally MIA?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: somehow half my screen became like the title bar and everything went weird
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and ive looked but i cannot see it anywhere
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try View->reset toolbar locations?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay that fixed the screen but still mising the health bars, and i had to rearrange my minwn's again
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: resetaard to get it back. then rearrange again, I guess
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: k thanks that seems to have done it
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: now don't break it again
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: i have a slight problem... I turn on my pc...my hdd boots up but it says read disc error anyone know the prob?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The drive is broken.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Electrobite bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or your pc is broken.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: expensive
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: When type look, and you see a (Wounded) The daisensei is trying to KILL YOU!..I wanted to change the color that display mobs trying to KILL YOU!..How do I go about doing it?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Client?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: instead of the usual orange color u typically get
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: much
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I mean mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Hmm. Haven't messed with mush much, not sure there.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: easy
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ohh..?? Remarto..take ur time
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: 2 explain I mean
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh i was putting together to put in pastebin
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Arent u gonna teach me how, Remarto?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay, put this in a trigger line and click regex
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ^(.*?) is trying to KILL YOU\!$
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Regex? I dont see any regex button
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its a tickbox down the side
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: regular expresion
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: got that so far?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: yeah.. anything to type in the Send box?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: go down to style
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: "change colour and style" should be a dropdown box
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: no change should be the defult
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Thanks..work like a charm!
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: found it?, thats where you set the colour for the line to be displayd
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a list of vulnerabilities of areas somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: duckbat?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: is gone
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seems to be working for me
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not the resists page
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That went when the site changed - I have been told it was mostly out of date, however
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Requires a dedicated inquisitor
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: well guess im outof luck thanks for the help :)
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shikai Tech: Hi! Does anyone know how to make seperate windows for different channels in the Aardwolf MUSHclient? Like a communications window for auction/bid, another for newbie/question, etc.?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shikai Tech: I just realized I forgot to pay attention to the tech channel. If you answered already, I'm sorry! But I was wondering if there was any way to make multiple comm logs for different channels using the aardwolf MUSHclient. Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: can anyone think of a reason why mush would disconnect after 5-15 seconds on a desktop?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: how do i make mudside aliases on blowtorch?its not accepting the semi-colon
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not even double semi-colon?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: i'll try that now
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Page command is supposed to make sounds right?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Supposed to.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: anyone else on MushClient having issues with that?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: help me please... I have this alias (compliments of Norton) which I don't entirely understand... I use it to send 'mapper cexit %1'  the trouble is, there is an extra space between the "t" and the first letter of the variable.  no workie that way.  output is, for example:  "mapper area  enter bush"
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's the aliase:  ^mmmm(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: woh.  no idea on that one. sorry...
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: perhaps ask norton?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: if he's around.. not going to bother him, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: looks like he's afk, but online
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: he usually jumps on tech questions... if he's watching the channel, he'll answer
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: icic
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone built a mame cabinet?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: hi all, anyone know's why my stats window (mushclient) lately doesn't start when i log in? any ideas? tks
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does aardreset help?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: no, it won't
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the window's not just hidden?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That just moves winodws back to default locations afaik
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tholgram: type checkversion
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: version r1723
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: window is not hidden, never was
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: get with the times!
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so where the stats window used to show up, you have an empty space?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Heh, I'm running 1723 still too, scars :P
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tholgram: I also noticed something happening recently. update to 1748 and see if that fixes it
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: hummm going to do that first
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: brb
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder if lasher changed whether data gets sent at connect without requesting it
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: if i go to plugins and reset statsmon plugin it starts, but it's kind of annoying doing that all the time
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, I know
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: something changed silently on the server end to not automatically send gmcp updates of everything at connect
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1748 should resolve it
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lasher aware of that change?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I sure hope so
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Could be something unintentional, I'd still post a note.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go ahead, I guess. I've already fixed the client behavior in 1748 *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: going to 1748 brb
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Just force in a sendchar or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pretty much
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: how can i transfer my settings from my old mushclient for the new one?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: on aardwolf website, the guide is there.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this page has instructions if you scroll down http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: yes i'm reading that tks macbeth and fiendish
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: tks all!!! All set now, i think :)
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alright, I asked about it
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: -j
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: some time ago there wasn't a help plugin? which sent help files to it?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: removed because it sucks and is lame, but yes
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably somewhere in the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: sucks? well wasn't it a help? at least for newcomers
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is a miniwin_help in my set of plugins
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah use that
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: the aardwolf_helplist isn't working? on mush
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: when i reload it, gives me a helplist.mcl error
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: .mcl? yikes
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't use that plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's ooold
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use bast's
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: was just reading it... doesn't work either, but it shows up on the plugin window
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: where can i get a function so i can calculate the differance between two different times / dates
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a function in what?
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mushclient script
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use os.time to get the time, and can do math on that...so can os.time the start checkpoint, then os.time the end checkpoint and subtract that
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i can get the time, i was hoping for a function that could quickly convert the differnce in times to h/m/s
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at commas.lua
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aventurine Tech: Would anybody know why the MUSH Client would randomly fire off commands silently that cause the "They aren't here." message to repeatedly pop up?  I don't use special scripts or otherwise.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: type echocommands.  Then you'll be able to see what the command is
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aventurine Tech: Thank you.  I was curious if there was a command that would do that.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aventurine Tech: Odd ... seems I'm randomly sending out "poultice data" ... hmn.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: it's probabyl sending "p data", and you have a mudside alias for p for poultice
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're sending "p data"...you aliased "p" to "poultice"
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aventurine Tech: Makes perfect sense.  And I just removed the alias too.  
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "p data" is a MUD command to send the code that your prompt is set to...MUSHclient uses that to check that your prompt ends in %c
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the newer versions of aard MUSHclient have changed that to send "prompt data" instead of "p data" (the original command was only p data, not prompt data), to interfere with those aliases less (although I don't recommend 1-letter aliases)
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So I had to shut my computer down for a quick bit to change some cabling... MISTAAAAAAAAKE. 70 windows updates queued resulting in 21678 changes :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In doing so my rate of transfer from my media server to my PC went from 300-600kbps depending on mood to 12mbps though, so that was nice :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not so sure why I held off learning networking so long, it wasn't nearly as difficult as I had originally thought
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: anyone know what the file jucheck.exe from oracle America is for?
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: java update checker
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: seeing how it's from oracle i'd assume java update check
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ah, ok, next time i'll let it run
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to fix the update settings. Otherwise, it will try to update everytime you reboot.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: it's trying at random times in between boots
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: So...apparently you can't RDP into a computer if it's off!   :( :( :(
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the humanity!
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Clients.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar snorts.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: why would a computer be off? this does not make sense to me.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: iknowright??
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I think this person shut it off to conserve energy while they were away.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: training issue, then
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: My place is a whirling vortex of energy consumption :P
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I probably used too many non-monosyllabic words when explaining how this works.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: leave internet machine on
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: NO SHUT OFF K?
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no press off
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: is there a way in itunes to export song names of a playlist you just created? I want to send the playlist to a friend
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: even if it is just names of the songs rather than them being able to play them directly
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: screenshot
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: ah, yep
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: http://www.sync-blog.com/sync/2010/07/how-and-why-to-export-playlists-in-itunes.html
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: though it is possible to export an actual playlist with audio files packaged in the folder... m3u, or some such?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.. anyone have any idea where I might be able to source the update files for the Motorola Xooom android tablet? Can't find an official source for the rom
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: xda dev?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Need an official source unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Otherwise, Cyanogenmod all around!
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: +1 to that
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I find calling the companies works best - a lot of execs of these companies are internet retarded, and don't load up google with nice links
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I heard Ubuntu Touch is using cyanogenmod as a framework for installing on existing devices. Thought that was cool.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably my next step, Vak. They have a pile of them at work, trying to see if I can't find a shortcut to updating them, instead of OTA updating everyone manually
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thats kind of a pita.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: any good ideas for free window capture tools? tnt seems promising, but it takes HUGE images (by adding tons of whitespace around things).
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: like a screen recorder?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Just need still images. Not moving.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Win 7 has snipping tool
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: printscreen
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: It only does the large window, not any subwindows. And it gets weird with aero.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Ixle: I lose rounded corners.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh you need it to form to rounded corners and not just square it off?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You might have to open an image editor for that regardless.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: if it squares it off, it should look nice. Not capture anything in the background.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is it a window you can make full screen?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: alt+print screen will only capture the active window
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Leinei: but oddly enough, when I have two moniters set up, it won't capture my subwindows. :P I swear I had it working yesterday, but today it is captureing the whole set of windows. And it doens't handle aero well.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: winsnap is nice, it lets me take screenshots of specific objects, keeps transparency, etc. But it isn't a free program, which means aquiring a lisence and stuff.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Oooo, found a program we already bought tucked into a random folder on the server! Snagit. :) Works beautifully!
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: hey?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: anybod there?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am, but only because I'M the one who ussually need the help
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto sighs.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: whatsup?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: give me any tech news
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think you are missing the point of this channel
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: whats that?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the second sentence in help tech spells it out
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For tech news, visit www.reddit.com/r/technology. For tech help and queries, come here.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: guys where to find illegal software?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars sighs.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Troll Grade: D-
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I get mine from your mom
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto slaps Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... anoterh D-
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: take that sort of stuff elsewhere von
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: At least lead into it by asking about how to downgrade from windows 8 so people get sucked in first
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: was a joke referencing where to get ill... ah never mind... it fell flat... sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: newegg still had oem win7 ultimate discs a week ago ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: ladies plz don't abuse
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's a legit tech question that doesn't involve our mothers....  how to I tap into MUSHclients timer plugin?  I want an on-screen message that gives me a 3-4 sec heads up on tick.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: the one fiendish has had a time to tick down bottom left corner didnt he?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anything wrong with the time to tick status?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: isn't there already one under the command line in aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: the tick shows down the bottum under the command line norm i thought
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there is indeed, and it's dang handy... I want to use that to send a screen echo, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Simply because the tick is close, but not exactly 30 seconds - a timer will suffer degrading accuracy
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. .that's why fiendish has it going in two second increments... but it's pretty accurate
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's actually +/- .5 sec most of the time.. I believe it ques off of world events and recalibrate wuite often.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sorry what? The time to tick is not a timer... going in 2 second increments won't help if you have steadily worsening accuracy
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the tick-timer is really just a 30 second loop... but it only DISPLAYS every two seconds... for psycological reasons.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: no, it isn't
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: enlighten us.. I'm to expert... BELIEVE me!
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my tick timer script syncs every tick. it goes off sync pretty damn quick if you client just counts 30 seconds
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: doesent sound hard to set up
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it counts 30 seconds... sure, but it has to look at cues off the screen... events that are know to happen on the tick... and recalibrates
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The tick timer in mush is a series of 2 second timers
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm using zmud. there's a #TS command for setting tick timer, so each tick triggers #TS 30
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im guessig you would sync off something like --> TICK <-- 
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes, R... that woudl sure work.. but Fiendish can't rely on everyone enabling that feature
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can sync off gmcp also.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sure he can - GMCP sends it's own message, and Fiendish turns that on for you when you load up mush
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: COPY CON: C:\CONFIG.SYS
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: thats some old school right there
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: http://xkcd.com/1172/
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They are getting rid of google reader o.0 How in the hell am I supposed to read web comics now???!?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: paperback
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's google reader? }:>
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: history soon
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Heyhey. I found a replacement for Google Reader, that was fast :-) Oldreader, though understandably it is getting a little... swamped atm
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that like Oldfriend?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If friend was an rss reader, then yes, exactly like oldfriend
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: Holy Crapola. I haven't heard that name in ages! 
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thank goodness :P
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ZOMG, just saw that didn't realize Google reader was dying...
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i don't even know what google reader is oO
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what's google reader?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: RSS Feed Reader
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite called JINX before Gnarcyon.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You would think they would have a message on, idk, GOOGLE READER??? But no, had to see it on reddit
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [13 Mar 21:40:20] Abelinc Tech: what's google reader? }:>
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oho, looks like one has been added now 10 or 20 tech onliners have picked up the story :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: HAHA!
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: anyone use a version of the group plugin in mush for cmud?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ffffuuu. Google reader getting the axe
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Anyone know how to move WinkleWinkle's Extender GUI for search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: click and drag works for me?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: I am unable to see the top of the gui.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Brilliant, thanks sir.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So I decided to OCR my textbook because the index is a POS... it was then I realised my textbook has 1500 pages :-\
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Thankfully the OCR program seems to be capable of utilising 3 cores, which is 3x the productivity I was expecting
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know of a good free virus protection for windows 8 OS?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: windows 8 has virus protection built in
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: microsft security essentials got rolled into windows 8
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: So it is safe not to have a third party protection software?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: About as safe as if you didn't?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: for the most part - 3rd party protect is bad.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: i mean not always the case - and maybe for your grandparents or someone not computer literate
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Crazy how the times have changed then.  I just upgraded from Windows XP.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: most malicious things are going to be because you did it yourself
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: like opened a file you shouldn't have even after the virus scanner said not to
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: etc
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: Microsoft Security Eseentials was really good - suprisingly good.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Lol well, I'm technically proficient, I'm not dumb when it comes to those things
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: But I guess I have seen family members do super dumb things
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: Yeah - when they rolled out windows 7 - they offered security esesntials as a free addon
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: and then when they offered 8 they rolled it together.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Sweet
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: Just make sure to keep your windows 8 anti virus up to date and you're more than good.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: If you have windows 7 - make sure to get security essentials from imcrosoft themselves - I've seen a lot of fake antivirus trying to look like something similar to get access to your computer.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: my computer had norton on it which I removed, how do I get windows security essentials for free? or if I already have it how do I activate it?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: I would almost never recommend norton or symantec they're usually insanely bloated.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: Just go to microsoft's website
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: google - microsoft security essentials
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: it's offered to everyone that has windows 7
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: pretty sure microsoft got tired of hearing their system was "not safe" so they're being much more proactive with security
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Trying to open a 2nd client to test Server. I copied my MUSH to a new folder. When I start the Test Client, how do I change the IP address without loosing all the handy Aard MUSH windows etc..?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alt+1 to open Game Configure.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Change the Port Address to the Test Port Address
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nice, thanks Turie. Just keep the world name the same?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you have the client in a different folder.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you are using the same folder, you will need to load all the plugins and save the World File as Testport something.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ya seperate folder... got like 4 of them now... I need to do some spring cleaning.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Keep in mind that the portals you have will not be on testport unless you copy your pfile over.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh, good point. Actually dont really need alot of my crap prolly
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: how hard is it to copy my pfile over?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Remember, you will be having Mapper over there, so be consiuous about that.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a helpfile about it.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is on testport. Not on live.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Cool, so should I log on to test with my same name, then read the helpfile, or some random name?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would speak with an Imm.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is something I am not certain about. You could try Doink or your previous name.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menomarou Tech: how do you unlock the windows in aardclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menomarou Tech: no one knows? shucks hehe
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menomarou Tech: awesome, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: is there a command in mush to reset the window position of scripts? right now ww's extender gui won't move.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: reset_aard, iirc? or you can try xset reset gui?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: xset reset gui should work for you.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think it's resetaard, all one word
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: and officially, I just want it known I use cmud, so dont think I'm a mush genius :) cause I'm not :P
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I'll be sure to spam you with all my mushclient questions in future
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: okay im working on getting mush figured out, im used to cmud, how do make triggar
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Game->Configure->Triggers
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: top bar
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: ive been palying with that but i cant seem to get anything to fire off commands
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: the layout of triggers is similar, but it's different checkmarks in mush
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What are you trying to trigger off?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Those would be aliases, basically custom commands.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: well just testing im tryign to fire "random" every tick
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: what is "random"
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: what is the text you're trying to trigger off
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: its the random command in aard
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: what is your send set to?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: triggers are easy in the mush
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: OK, so what pattern are you matching?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Are you triggering on the right thing?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: triggers trigger line is -->TICK<-- and the box i think you would put your command in is just random
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: well --> TICK <--
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you don't need to trigger tech, it's a mud command under timers
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is the "Send to" box set to "World"?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try ^\-\-\>TICK\<\-\- and click the regular expression box
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: tech yes
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why are you using autotick when you could be using GMCP instead?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: tickbox that is
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: do i need to use REGEX? id prefer to stick to python since i know it a little better
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wonder if maybe the aardwolf scripts are already triggering on ticks, without falling through
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: its a bare mush install, not the aardworld msuh
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I'm going to try the trigger myself, i hopped on mush from cmud
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: im just using the autotick since its a regular thing that shows up i c an use for testin
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hit control-shift-8, make sure "Triggers enabled" checkbox is on
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: they are enabled
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: you could also use test trigger shift + ctr + f12
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: http://i.imgur.com/bpbLvbc.png
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: that is my setup, i would think it should throw "burgle" dirrectly to the mud and aard will give be an invalid command prompt
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you don't want to spam an invalid command every tick :P
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: imms'll get mad at you
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: its only for testing since i couldnt get any triggers to fire before
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: indeed, better to use the echo command
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You can make it trigger on something simple like "trigger test" and use the echo command to send it to your client
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: click regular exprestion box and remove the $ produced, may help
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: donno the echo command for mush, still brand new
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: help echo
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: He meant the echo command in aard, but that's not the point
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You have autotick on, right? You're actually SEEING the ---> TICK <--- ?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: yes i am
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: try dropping an asterisk after it.  Like: -->TICK<--*
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just used the same pattern you've got in that image, and it worked for me. I'm not sure what you've got going on there.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: hmm, why did that work
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you have a trailing space after that? As in: "--> TICK <-- "
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: does the aasterisk do in mush what it does in z/cmud?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I just drop the astrick right after the tick*
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: ah, and i need to match the entire line
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Yup.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You don't need to match the entire line
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: i was hoping that like in cmud if it catches it in a line it would fire
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It will.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: if it will then why do i need the asterisk, i understand that the asterisk means any number of white or nonwhile spaces, but if it was catching the --> TICK <-- anywhere i wouldnt need the asterisk
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ok, Frostpaw's right - I just did some testing.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: what the heck do you need an ostrich for anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mushclient uses glob matching by default, which is automatically anchored
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: several people suggested using regex instead, which is not
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: okay so i got my tick trigger ticking, time to delete and play with variables
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: oh noes! "Error -2147221005 occurred when finding CLSID of scripting language "Python":" do i not get to use python...
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: booo i need to install active python....
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: okay im done bothering you guys for a while, thanks for the trigger help
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what linux distro should i install?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well just for general use but i would like to focus on some python dev and pentesting type stuff for class
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: already have backtrack on a different laptop also
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Backtrack? -_-
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: omg leave my keys alone
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: ubuntu always
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Debian stable
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: was thinking maybe debian
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thats all i've ever used is ubunto
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have a raspberry pi yet?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I use RHEL for work.. it's pretty decent.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: they just make me mad with the spelling of woruds
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I do vorpes.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you like it euty?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: It's pretty neat, yeah.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hard to go wrong with a computer for $35
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I have the ARM Debian installed on my SD card.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there much difference between ARM debian and regular debian?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Im not sure, I haven't messed with the regular distro of debian.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm maybe i will go with debian for now. friend was telling me to go with slackware but i think i will skip that
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Ubuntu is good if you're new to Linux. OpenSUSE is decent as well.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or mint
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have used it before. not awesome at it, that is for sure. i will need to get better at it though for school so might as well start now
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Isn't Mint just Ubuntu?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when im setting values in MYSQL im doing INSERT INTO table VALUES (values) but one of the values is a date, and it seems to be the only one not setting, any ideas why?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: anyone know how to use the cmud global vars when using python
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Is it normal for ProxyMud to screw with the MUSH communication log (among other things)?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: has anyone had a problem with a desktop that the computer wont turn on unless the ODD is open?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: umm no that is weird. maybe the dvd drive is bad and it thinks it is reading something? maybe lower it in the boot priority?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was thinking a bad drive also, was going to pick up a cheap one to swap it out with
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: see if you can remove it from the boot list completely.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im not in front of the computer now, its a problem my best friends mom computer has been having for a couple of years, was going to go look at it this weekend
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol for a couple years?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My laptop won't boot if I have my portable DVD player plugged in... not the same thing, but weird things _can_ happen. :D
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya im barly getting around to working on it again =/
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im slow on my computer repair :P
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: when the terms "computer", and "a couple of years" are used in the same sentance, my reply has to be "Run!"
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: meh i gave up on doing other peoples computers unless they are family or okay with it taking forever. really don't want to get home and work after work
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: she is like another mom :P ... it really does not bother me, i go and get free food, and make a couple of bucks
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that, and as soon as you "fix" someones computer (especially family), you are irrevokably responsible for it FOREVER (which is about how long it is till they get a new computer)
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyways thanks for the info, i need to finish getting ready for work
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: doesn't matter with my parents' if I ever even looked at it before, I was still irrevocably responsible for it
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the last time my mom called and asked me to fix her computer (about two years ago), I called Dell and had a new one sent to here WITH the two year onsite service (cost as much as the computer).
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just say (which is almost true) that I don't know about windows. 
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when i lost my job i had to move back in with my mom, and now its every time she turns around "hey son im having XXX problem, whats wrong" or "XXX program needs more money should i do it" or "are you sure its safe to do online banking and buy stuff?" im like yes mother i personally set up the router, and you dont "browse" the internet you stay on your 3 main sites (facebook/bank/something else) you are 100% safe
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Too bad that's not true.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "XXX"?  man... I don't know if i'd by talking about my mom's internet surfing habits... especially if she's going to XXX sites.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i spent 4 hours one day helping my mother burn some pictures to a cd. i was dumb and didn't stay to help her label the cd. she wrote on the shiny side lol
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya i laughed too after i cried
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: did you at least teach her to do it herself so she could fix her own mistake?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: teach my mother something?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ha!
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the reason it took so long to burn a dozen pictures is because she couldn't fathom why you don't close the windows for everything after each time you copy a file over
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shikai Tech: Is there a guide for setting up multiple communication windows in the Aardwolf MUSHclient? Like putting all market stuff in one, all newbie/q in another, tells/says in another, that type of thing?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone have experience with matlab serial connections?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Is there no way to capture a line in MUSHclient while preserving color codes?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: ctrl-D
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're using lua, the fourth argument of a trigger is the styles, which includes colors
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're not using lua, there's the GetStyleRuns() function
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: GetStyleInfo(), rather
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Does that return all the color codes?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it's a table with all of them in it, yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: i don't recall the exact format of the table
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'll look into that, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a dependable DPS pluggin around?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what makes you think the current ones are undependable?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: let me re-phrase my question...  Me need-um DPS thingie.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I shall rephrase as well...why?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's a troll, right?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope.  The question you're asking made the premise that you already had one but are unsatisfied with its performance.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what the heck... I'll bite...  I need a DPS meter to accuratly and efficiently evaluate what spells are most approriate based on over all damage output
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok anyone have any answers for this: setup new vpn connection. one IKE intiator is exchanged and that is it. nothing else happens nothing on the logs. pings do go through though
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sonicwall tz105 at one end and sonicwall nsa 2400 at the other
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: .......swear to god i should find another profession. shit just doesn't work and then when i give up it starts working
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: give up faster
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: scholarly advice :)
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe routing problems
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: shouldn't be routing problems. checked all that several times. i think i just need to give up sooner
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wonder if that works for other aspects of life as well
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it does.  For example, when you're hitting the bar scene with your buddies looking to score you can risk going home alone by insisting on a hottie.  If you go ugly early, though, you're pretty much guaranteed to score and if you set the bar low enough perhaps you can sneak off and come back multiple times.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: rofl. i feel bad for your junk :P
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: after successful phase 1 and 2 there is only routing left\
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: interestign theory
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: logs never showed phase 1 or 2 just initiator
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: You /could/ lower your standards, or invest in choloroform
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes it depends which router initiates connection
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya i am not sure atm i will check logs when i get home but sweet! my day is over. time to chloroform some uglies!
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's kind of a misuse of the concept, I think.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that too much giving up?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, wasting the chloroform on the uglies.  If you got it, might as well aim higher.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: have you tried using your charm? Amazingly it can work.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: chloro is the charm :P
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, that's what I said.  Not a big fan of chemical romance, myself.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: nah, tranquilizer darts = the charm :P
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: rusk would know ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: so no pheromones either hans?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: multiple proposals, that also apply to vpn as well to life
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nothing like Sex Panther, if that's what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: how many bits would you need to do east north south west and then how do you know when you need an up down northwest etc
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Um, what?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 3 bits
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use more bits
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: respectively
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: I'm trying to convert a binary file to a sort of format for a mud
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: things don't generally work that way
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What kind of binary file? And MUD servers tend to have their own unique file formats, too.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You mean Fiendish you aren't staring your screen in green 1s and 0s scrolling down your monitor?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I only do that at work.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: It's too much of an eye strain otherwise to deal with the hassle.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: well I don't know of any ways of debugging exe files to some sort of assembly and I was wondering if it helped to have graphics
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: forget 1s and 0s. real programmers use chinese.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah good point, good also to keep work and play seperate!
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: and in DNA you only use 3 paired bases for a amino acid
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just use all 1s because they're skinny and get through the wires faster.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Greendude: did you previously have a character named Lemon?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Guess they wouldn't ahve to worry about too long variable names...
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I thought it was 4 bases?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: there are 4 types of bases but only 2 types of paired bases, then that's just the types
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: I guess I could make it arbitrary
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: I think I did have a character named Lemon
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: There are other bases besides the four canonical bases :P
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: oh yeah that's true
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: but still there are like 2^3 options with 3 bits
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Greendude: you sound like Lemon. He also liked to string together meaningless drivel
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Everything's ball bearings these days
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please don't troll on my tech channel
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's magnets
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: everything is done by magnets these days
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: well what's a good ide for programming
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What language?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: c++
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Don't be a wuss. Use Notepad++. Failing that, try netbeans or something.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the best ide for C++ is Microsoft Visual C++
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: mine stalled during download
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sucks to be you
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: vim+cscope is a winner for C.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: magnets
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: that problem is definitely caused by magnets
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: actually I find the solution to most, if not all, problems involve magnets in some way
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: Gregor I wish I could see it that way
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: try sleeping with a powerful magnet under your pillow
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: yeah I think I'm gonna stay away from C++ for a while
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you could try c# as a saner alternative if you fancy
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I like c++
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: I'm still interested I just gotta get that debugging thing out of my mind
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you mean the thing where you don't know what you're talking about and string random thoughts together?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: yes fiendish
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: can someone throw me an example of a AaardMUSH trigger that targets the communications window?  I wanna highlight certain words that come thru there.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Ugh anyone know why my client would spam k mob? where mob is my last quest/cp target
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: ive reinstalled all plugins
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that sounds very illegal
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Yea well its actually very annoying
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: autotrigger?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: no i dont have any triggers that would make it do that :/
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try disabling 3rd party plugins one at a time, also double-checking your aliases
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: it was working fine and now its just going nuts. Out of nowhere. and reinstalling Winkle's clears the name but it still spams the commands
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does uninstalling it stop the spam
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Have you tried restarting mush? A plugin might have run into a small bug.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try disabling your basic aliases/triggers
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: ahhhh no i keep spamming ak.....
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: disabling the plugin just makes me spam ak now
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: I think it was a macro...maybe a key is stuck
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: the spam is gone. thanks for the help guys :)
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is anyone here on Robot Combat League?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why would my samsung note suddenly not check gmail, throwing a "not safe to connect to server" message?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: just stick a voda soaked tampon up your anus
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: who would have known
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: been pestering about this for a bit now, but here it is again in case there's some new ears out there....
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a DPS meter PI for AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: there are damage trackers, but not sure if dps. 
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the built in damage tracker is fine as far as it goes...
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but it only counts the damage for one instance of a spell
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so it will make flame spear look real good with its 2x 500, when nova is really better with its 6x200
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: ok somehow i have made my info bar span the majority of the main screen pushing the other windows all the way to the right and squished. Can someone tell me how to get it back to normal?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: View->Rest Toolbar Locations
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: HOw do you do fixed width matches in regex again?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I want to match first 20 chars in a variable, then next 20 chars...
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: {20,20} means match 20 of the last token, whatever it was
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Thanks Bast, will try that!
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is this lua in mush, or something else?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: bast... since you poked your head up...
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Lua Mush, trigger most likely, but I also need them to be optional...
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: loving the plugins... could exist happily for along time with them....
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: has anyone considered a DPS meter?  Havn't been able to find one, so I am guessing not.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: dtrack
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it isn't as easy as it sounds, because combat does not have a definate beginning and ending
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: not that hard.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: with gmcp
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It can be, if you kill fast enough Styx
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes, I can see where that would be troublesome... as for dtrack, it's great and all, but it's shortcomming is that it doesn't look at ALL the damage from a spell, just one piece....
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are fighting 18 of the same mob, then gmcp doesn't help
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: why not? if your fighting multiple mobs the dps should track over the whole encounter, not each mob individually
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so if you cast 'fart cloud', and it hits 6 times for 200 each, it reports an average of 200... where as if you cast 'SUPER fart cloud', and hits 50 times for 200 each, it reports an average of 200... same same
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: test for dropping into state 8 and back out of and make the calc
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the state doesn't change if you are fighting multiple mobs
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: what part of 'the whole encounter' did you not get what I was saying?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: shouldnt test it per mob, but per fight.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, but most people want per mob DPS, not per fight
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I don't see why.  It's going to be the same.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not really, I know of several mobs that have the same name, but different vulns
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: fart cloud a room with different mobs that have different vulns
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so if i have a structure in C, call it PoundOunce with variables int Pound and int Ounce. then in the main function i have PoundOunce p1, p3, p2 = {2, 2} what does the PoundOunce p1, p3, p2 = {2, 2} do?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is this a quiz?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: for me or for you? this is a poorly written example for an assignment for me
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I wonder why my Bast Miniwin-Quest isn't staying up when I'm not on a quest all the sudden.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: can't wait until this class is done so i can punch the teacher
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: here are your lecture notes. btw not a single example actually works. there is also no comments on anything and my book doesn't seem to cover any of the things i have questions about either
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: any clue why my quest window doesn't stay up anymore?  used to sit there and count down till I could so another quest.  now it only shows when I am on a quest.  Bast pluggin, BTW
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is it quest or events?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: quest window
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I tried reinstalling it... didn't work.  It works GREAT when I ahve an active quest
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: perhaps changelog?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: shrug, just an idea
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "mquest quest show" should show it again, then do "mquest save"
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... it showed.  we'll wait for another quest to see if it sticks... 24 minutes.  I know because that what it says in the quest window
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I could just tuck "mquest quest show" into my quest get/turn-in alias
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: except that wouldn't work, because one part would be for the world, and the other would be an execute....  I could nest it with another alias, but sometimes that cause the bad men to come.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Send to script, then you can do Send() and Execute() as needed
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: anyone use windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Aye
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: how do i delete a program i have downloaded?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: If you installed it, go to your Home screen.  Right click, and go to all apps.  Find control panel, and then it's all like Windows XP
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: okay i will try, but i will prolly be back XD
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Ok!  I am a Windows 8 noob myself
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: unistall win8 and that should do it :P
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Lol
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yeah, uninstall win8, go back to 7 or xp imho :P
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: What's the problem with win8 frost?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or try installing one of the start menu hacks so that you can actually find things again
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: shrug, its just a mobile OS more than a desktop OS, way I see it
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I think Windows 8 will eventually become faster and more productive than previous Windows.  But it sucks having to relearn an operating system
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: no, it's more of a touchscreen OS.  So get a laptop with a touchscreen, or a pc touchscreen, and then let's talk :P
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: that, and it's an even-numbered windows
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i installed it on the fiances computer and installed a start menu hack. i am not sure she knows she is on windows 8 or not
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Yes, touchscreen is actually pretty useful
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: true, I should have said touchscreen rather than mobile, I'm sorry.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: It's nice for browsing the internet
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: At least on a laptop with no mouse, just a pad
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i'm confused, i have a laptop with wifi, and a computer with a ethernet cord hooked up to it, the computer gets enternet but my laptop doesn't, but it has a good connection. any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Are you inputing the correct password?  Sounds silly, but I did that before lol
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep its the correct password
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: umm is the ethernet cord going to the router and not the modem?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: was about to ask that
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: confused
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i think its the modem
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you have the router/modem setup?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you need the router to have a connection to the modem for wifi to work
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Your wireless router needs to be connected to the modem
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there should be an ethernet cord from the moden to the wan port of the router
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: you should have 2, one going from modem to router, another from router to computer.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: what they said, basically :P
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: My internet company has the router and modem combined it's super nice
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: hmmm, the wifi is built in to the modem
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: wood idea
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: good idea
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: for some odd reason i still can't connect and when i do i get disconnected sometimes and cant connect for awhile
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My money is still on an incorrect password
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: make and model of modem/router?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: configuration all correct?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So you're able to use the internet sometimes?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i think the config is correct
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: maybe interference from something like a wireless phone, then
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what OSes, and how many boxes are on the network?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm dhcp ip's?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Try restarting it?  That fixes 90% of problems it seems
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yea restart and kick
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i reseted it 3 times to no avail, intresting part is my aunts ipad can pick it up
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Damn
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: do you have a gaming console?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: laptop and desktop have same static ip?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: iPads are notorious bandwidth hogs on wireless networks
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: See if you can find the frequency on the router, and see if you can find it on your wireless phone, and see if they're the same.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i have an asus dual core
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's why my parents' wireless was very finicky
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: good point
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Your new laptop has been giving you headaches all day it seems Senor Jameson
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i do live in a trailer park
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i just got it 3 days ago
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: that sucks, lotta interference everywhere in those.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Yeah... good luck
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i need a frequency admitter
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: when it won't work just blast if for 5 mins
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: does the wifi computer have issues connecting even when you are close to the modem?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: do they have those?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: does the wifi lappy have a ethernet?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: maybe you can just try reconnecting wired
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If the laptop is right next to the router, then I wouldn't think inteference would be the problem
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but not sure
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: I will bring it in here and try it
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's he say?  I apparently deleted the wrong file for my goal notes, so now I'm stuck with an empty file and just memories of doing the goal (back when it was Star Trek, of course).
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ours was a couple of rooms away
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: jsut make sure
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you could try checking to see you can set modem to auto channel selection
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: will do
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if you don't have that option you should be able to change the channel
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: what sucks about that is everything uses one of those six channels
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: really prefer wired myself
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod my apartment is completely wired
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: looks like crap too :)
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I've got my pc wired, but we have a few wireless stuff around here
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: 100% wireless here
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I have to use wires to charge stuff up
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: thanks for reminding me i needed to charge the phone :P
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh, i'm late, but don't use automatic selection
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use ssid to check the networks around you. then use the least saturated channel (only 1, 6 or 11 tho!)
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: overlapping channels cause more disturbance than a bunch of people on the same channel
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: thats what I used for mine when I had wired issues
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1, 6 and 11 are the only channels that don't overlap
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why do they have overlapping channels, anyway? This is the only tech I can think of where a channel is not a discrete thing.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people who are on anything else should be taken behind the shed and shot
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why's that?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: its working again
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: of course, i had wireless issues mainly cause the router is on the other side of the house
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: wifi works?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because being on channel 2-5 messes with the people who are on 1 and 6 because of the overlap
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Was someone running the microwave?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does channel width matter?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: just to be clear, my conversation is about me and my own experiences recently
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: only have two options auto and 20
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe shooting them is too extreme tho. a mild beating would be ok
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I dont follow wireless too closely because I havent really needed to
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: but isnt there a 5.0ghz standard being worked on?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Considering the way most router firmwares present channel options, I wouldn't even beat them. Non-nerds wouldn't know better, and the router firmware gleefully encourages them to shoot themselves in the foot.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anything that doesn't run dd-wrt is garbage
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 802.11n uses 2.4 GHz and 5.0 Ghz.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 802.11ac is being developed, which is only 5 Ghz
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i haven't seen routers that use any channel with auto select
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bet you never know. also, nerd rage because people are doing it WRONG
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thought of upgrading to dual-channel n router, but 100 euros isn't cheap
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud if i set an exit to "other" if i use #walk will it still recognize it?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: barter sold
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: hadar it should
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't use the OTHER type for speedwalk access.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: so what do you use for deathtrap, for example?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: since we don't use the secondary directions (ne, nw, se, sw), I just use those and whatever free cardinal positions are available.  I still fill in the exit name, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: true true, I had never thought of using the diagonals.. heh
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I've only ever come across 1 or 2 rooms that had more than 10 exits (including really dumb repeats in the form of custom exits), and I think one of those had enough formatting similarities that I could squish several exits down into one exit that used %random() and %item() to choose/figure out what to send.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is a good program that allows you to annotate notes and has an image of you on the screen next to your notes?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd just put a framed picture next to your monitor much easier than making a program Turie.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: o/
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so.. I'm looking for a bootable tool to do a couple things... some of which I know might not be possible. Trying to boot to either a cd/usb drive, capture the mac address of the on board network card, delete all partitions on the primary hard drive, and reboot to PXE. Any suggestions? Just looking for a small bootable linux variety that has the ability to add some scripts to
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I'm too tired to remember if it does all of that, but Trinity rescue kit is pretty expandable if you use a usb drive.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the point of PXE is that you don't need anything local...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you've booted PXE you can do whatever you like to the local drive
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod abe, I understand that. Unfortunately the PXE server is out of my control, as far as adding anything to it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you can't control the PXE server to even make the device bootable using it, then that part of your requirement makes no sense
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: should carry bootable os with you at all times anyways
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The install on the PXE server expects a blank drive, and fails if it is not. Theres no option during the install to do it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And while mostly unfamiliar with PXE, even if I learned how to configure it to do such, its not something I have any control over
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so you're not actually looking to boot PXE, you're looking to network install via PXE
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes. I suppose not knowing much about it, I supposed installing was basically just booting to network installation media/files. But yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty much any live boot tool will let you see the MAC address and will let you delete the drive, though...ultimate boot CD, bart's, any linux live, even windows pxe
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: windows PXE? or windows PE
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the former I've not heard of the later yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, pe
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: get barts
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, had pxe on the brain from the OP
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No worries, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something you knew about that I didn't.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Though, I suspect bart, windows pe, are a bit overblown.. just looking for something.. quick command line linux boot + script or something along those lines
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Biggest problem is i'm not seeing much that can reboot the system to do a pxe install
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want small, try Damn Small Linux :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: will do! "small" isn't so much the requirement as "fast booting" though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Though, I suspect they go hand in hand
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: <-- very much not a linux person
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: bbaarrrtssss
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, all any tool would do is reboot the system...having it boot PXE after the reboot is a function of the BIOS/NIC
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There is etherboot/gpxe that works from usb/cdrom/etc to force a network boot.. but as far as putting them in to play..
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those don't force a network boot, they're just a shim for things that don't natively support PXE
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, but the result is the same, is it not?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's like when we used syslinux as the booter for bart's on USB sticks when newer machines wouldn't boot otherwise
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh, I guess its adding an extra piece to the puzzle that doesn't need to be there anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Damn it tor, I thought you said "goatse" and I was like.. wtf
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. mis.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah well. Guess the PXE bit was too much to ask for. And I know the other two parts can be scripted trivially
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well... how about this then.. any suggestions on getting the mac address captured and sent.. either via email, network share, etc? 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: is this networked?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send ifconfig -a
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Networked, yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: wireshark, or you could use a copule other tools
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wireshark would be run on a remote system, no?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: could put it on one pc capt, ping the other see what you can see
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If I'm understanding you correctly, not going to work.. assuming theres multiple systems on the lan, would be no way to match macs to systems, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: you just need to catch the arp
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could look at the switch's table if you know where it's plugged in, but ifconfig from your USB-booted linux system which you're using to erase the drive works
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah i guess im just confuesd on the param of this question. if your on teh system itself ifconfig will work just fine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Getting the mac isn't the problem. could capture, and store to a file. if that file was on a network system instead of on the flash drive it would be better
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Aqiz.. booting system, trying to capture mac address, and wipe the drive with fdisk, in preperation for a pxe boot.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so put it on a network system...plenty of tools available for that :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol.. fair enough. I guess this is probably out of my league, to do from linux
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you'll want to associate the mac with the particular computer using some human-type designation, there will be some touching involved...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ow ow!
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, that's fine Abe
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: what are you using to deliver software and the os?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: script-wise, computers would be happy just calling each other by their MAC...but you'd want to do something like ifconfig -a > labcomputer3.txt and put that file somewhere
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's not the touching thats bad, its more the opportunity for error in miskeying/miswriting/etc the mac
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just scanning the barcode on the case would be ideal, but unfortunate it doesn't always match the mac on the system
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you could put a script file into that linux usb where you do "getmac foo" and it'll call the file foo.txt and put it onto the net system
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Guess I'll have to do some poking/general knowledge increasing to make it work
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: never too late to learn linux while your at it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: you're
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, certainly. Never had a good need for it till now outside of idle curiousity
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: being able to do what ever you feel like doing with your os is great
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr rapidly nods twice at Aqiz, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: free is also a hard price to beat lol
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, although I don't care so much about the no cost part about free software, care more about the open source part.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: true, most software I buy I have a reason for needing it so I can justify the price 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As an avid wearer of eye patches, I also am more concerned with open source than cost :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: =) Well, one last bit before i pop off.. Any suggestions on a simple distro I can toss ona USB drive that will boot to a shell prompt? or can easily be made to do so? And other then that.. any suggestions for a desktop version for learning purposes? Ubuntu is probably what I'd go with without another suggestion
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm currently learning Ubuntu server on a headless N40L
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: dal, decide if you prefer gnome or kde
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does quite well, and I can SSH in from my usual win7 box
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Aqiz.. I wouldn't know the difference between them =p
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not actually USING this OS...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's just using it long enough to grab the MAC address and fdisk the hdd before starting a netinstall of the real OS for the machine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: For a desktop, for a beginner, I'd go with ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ubuntu it is
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe I'll load it up on my laptop later
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ubuntu for the personal playground
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Apparently unity is the tits - I don't do *nix gui though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unity is a feature of the latest Ubuntu desktop, afaik
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Too much fancy junk for my taste, but if you prefer working your OS in a gui, it's probably ok.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, I love my Aero on win7, so I assume the fancy junk is targetted at people like me :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm. Ubuntu server might actually fit the ticket for the other, since theres no GUI
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: as for the bootable, I use bt for anything I do just becaseu im used to it.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: bt?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: in cmud with Lua scripts how do i use the cmud Vars?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: sorry, backtrack. but thats linux for a nother day
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah yeah, I'm aware of backtrack
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, thanks for all the help gentlemen
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and/or ladies
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: in cmud with Lua scripts how do i use the cmud Vars?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: whoops sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: in cmud when pattern matching, can i use a variable in the pattern in place of {word|word|word} to match specific instances of a line
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: what are some really good Pc companys? other then say dell or hp (not saying they really are or really aren't)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Build it yourself
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: make your own
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ^^^
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For laptops, HP, but wipe it clean
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: apple 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: toshiba isnt bad
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: I like toshiba for laptops
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: brave
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: but I dont' do any gaming on my laptop
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: macbook air.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Prakhar faints as [Outlaw] Remarto sneaks up to him and shouts "Boogy Woogy OOY!!"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i sorta plan to build my own but wanna look around for ideas/etc
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: www.reddit.com/r/buildapc
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: how much extrac word
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: dell is good for their warranty - you should pick one with 5year NBD
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: eh mac's kinda out for me
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: bleh anyhow seriously a reddit on building a pc?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: subreddit
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mac
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is so sick that he tells everyone "I gotta barf!".
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: pcpartpicker.com is the site youll want 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mac has its customer base. I won't say idiots, but I will certainly think it loudly. And pcpartpicker grew out of buildapc
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Captain HR Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: to each his own
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: On the same note, is there any recommendeed alternative to mac mini for a nice looking media center? Need a pretty and quiet box that sits next to TV, has LARGE storage, and streams media to all other PCs on wireless network
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Whats a "low" hastle laptop for a hackintosh?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I can afford it, so I buy Macs.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HP microserver, hands down
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: raspi!
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: you could afford a 3 times better pc then sneak
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For your money you could get a far better computer from any of the Windows manufacturers
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for some ideas on building a pc: http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rmp_sg_whirlpoolpcs
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Who cares. I hate windows.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Be like saying you can afford to drop $1m on a 1980 ford crapbox, so it is ok for you to do so
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you must be delusional if you're comparing a MacBook Air to a 1980 ford crapbox. but ok.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Same sort of price to value comparison
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Captain HR Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: once again, you must be delusional. but ok.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: this convo is the same as favorite poptart/method of preparing. 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not really - poptarts are subjective, IPCxGHz are absolutely not
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: is there a lot of poptart methods?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Apple is innovative in ways how to get money from their customers, then noticed that it really doesn't matter whether they sell PowerPC Mac or just Intel based one
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you're saying Mac vs PC isn't subjective?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you must be more delusional than I thought.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: no mac vs pc isn't subjective...unless you are talking about tablets or phones
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not at all - I am saying that the cost to power on a Macbook is lower than on almost any other laptop
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: all the parts are produce by the some company anyways
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The OS is more or less independent since the *nix change
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I am saying that individuals purchase whatever laptop/computer they want, as long as they can afford it.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Right - but what you are affording is less powerful than the same price from another company
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Right - and that matters how?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Do you use all that power fully, 100% of the time?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you use it once it has value
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i play dwarf fortress :P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Yes, but I don't.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm a thinkpad fanboi. same pricerange as macbooks
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: And I ascribe a high value point to "aesthetics"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: hey sneak are you a rapper?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: could of fooled me cause your talking like p diddy
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Are you retarded? I'm speaking English.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: uhm you pretty much just said...f the price as long is it gots bing
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A flash of light blinds you! Tratillo must be blinging!
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: That's not what I said.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Julliet Tech: Yeah. It is.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I said "I ascribe a certain value to aesthetics"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: That is not similar to "f the price, as long as it gots bing"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nobody uses Bing
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: You need to return to English class, if you think they are similar
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: ok sorry had phone calls got distracted and wow lota talk on here
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: that dude just used it in a sentence.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: bing doesn't spy you like google does
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "bling" is a small subset of "aesthetics"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Google doesn't spy on you if you don't allow cookies
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the original question was about laptop brands.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And if you do, you are getting spied on all the time, so it doesn't matter :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: so what were some of the companys?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, google something, then check whethere links for result are direct or by google proxy
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so here's my two cents - never buy hp or compaq
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so when you click on link it is recorded anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: and dont i dont use laptops
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HP is perfectly fine so long as you format the crap out of it as soon as you get it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hp hardware sucks
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: im strickly a tower guy
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: DO NOT buy hp. i repair laptops, i know what i'm talking about
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: go buy alienware...great bling...uhm I mean aesthetics
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But for desktops buy parts and make it yourself. Or pay someone else to if you aren't feeling up to it (it is easy though)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have had multiple HP laptops with zero issue at all, as well as selling them, again with no issue. eMachine and Dell come back a lot, though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: HP had some issues with temperature
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: especially the dreaded pavilions
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: how are athelons?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pavillion is a tower line...I was talking laptops
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pavilion is a laptop line as well
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you want a quality pc, go for lenovo think-branded series. t is the best, if you have the cash
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: fuck buy the S4 when it comes out, that thing is gunna be better then half the laptops out when that comes around
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir bonks Aqiz on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah, my bad
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I want a Titan... so hard to get in Au though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Plus I think I will need a new case, or at least mod it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: SO BIG
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: bleh gettin screwed up watchin stuff cause i have tech and ft same colors
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you need the laptop for?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In any case, it is a silly idea to buy towers from template brands like HP or w/e - build it, or set a custom list for someone else to build
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: facebook? gaming? work?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: me?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: portability?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes, you. you asked the question, right?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i asked about a pc, someone else said/asumed laptop
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, sorry. build your own then
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: well as i said i wanted some companys to look around and get an idea
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you have a decent budget go with i5 3570k. a good power supply is very important, i recommend seasonic
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you need PC for work - buy dell with NBD warranty, for gaming - build your own
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: i second both above statements
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: na wanting for home/personal use/gaming
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: pretty sure the deal out right now with teh higher end graphics cards is you get tomb raider and something else with it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: current high-end/good value combo is i5 3570k and gtx660
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: what would it cost?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: a battlestation that will last you the next couple years shouldnt cost you more then 1100
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: couple of years? lol
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: I think razer blaze is the best laptop for gaming
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 2 = couple
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's still wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the power requirement curve has been flat for a while now
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my gaming pc has 4-6 year old parts and it runs everything just fine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: far cry? check. stalker on ultra? check
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: vakieh, for that HP microserver...which version of Microsoft Server should I get. It would be just used as media center...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depend on how you game, some ppl require highest details, highest resolution - that require quite decent and expensive hardware
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use Ubuntu and Samba, not sure what MS to use, sorry :-(
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: dagnir i agree i just threw that out there as a sort of base
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you're unlikely to need microsoft server just for a media center
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: k tech going off before my eyes cause me to go even more retarded
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, 1100 is too much
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Windows 7 Pro or whatever is probably fine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ok window 7...doable
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah highball everytime
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the performance/value curve gets too steep in that pricerange. you'll do just fine with 800
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not win7 on the microserver...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Use a server OS
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debian
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ehhh....I don't want to start learing unix/linux...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: can it be hackingtoshed?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Can be a MS server OS, that's fine - just not Windows 7, which is a desktop OS :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You don't need a "server OS" to stream videos to a few computers at home
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: No, but the bloat of Win7 will cause the microserver to commit suicide
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yeah anybody asking about a MS server OS in order to run a media server should not be trying linux
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I agree
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w7 bloat? wtf?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I love Win7, but if you don't see the bloat you are blind
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone can learn to use linux. I'm proof.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: point it out to me, please
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yes but they're better off on something else for most tasks
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: but if I run a microsoft server...can that machine be used also? what I mean is, for example, to watch pictures on the video, can I just use the server?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I love linux but linux isn't "there" yet, and may never get there
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I am so not server savy sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: Ullin a server is just a computer, except generally a server OS is designed for using many multiuser network accessible programs simultaneously
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: for example, to run websites, or domain logins in office buildings
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: the server services suppleent the needs of workstation computers
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though be aware that sharing server resourcers may require additional licences
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: a media server is a server, but unless you're youtube, you don't need a server OS to stream media from your computer
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's the latest? 2008?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: 2012
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: there's a foundation version
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but yeah, pretty much what ullin said. w7 will do fine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: on any windows with media center
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: btw, youtube uses linux on their servers :D
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: He's not building a computer to host a massive website though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: everyone uses *nix on their servers
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If it was running on an already existing computer, I would say stream it with whatever else you are doing. But we are talking about a dedicated box, and a microserver running (in my case Ubuntu Server, but MS would do it) a server OS is the better option. It works best headless, and desktop OS's do terribly with headless.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yeah I was giving an example that someone who doesn't know what a server OS's purpose would understand (or be more likely to understand)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: friend just set up his on raspberry pi
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: well, Windows 7/8 would do great connected to a tv with a vga/dvi/hdmi connection
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if all you want is a simple file server, you could use something like freenas
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pi require some technical knowledge
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: are they like orderable now in the sense of not waiting for ever?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so basically, now I have a similar setup, because the center of it is a Synology nas, which is a very small linux server
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: so would xmbc
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: now the synology thing is far too slow to stream
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ive had my pi for ages
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Again, on a small home network, just use whatever is easiest to set-up/run, no need for enterprise level solutions
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so that's why was looking at a proper box in the middle
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Synology just bumped prices a huge bit
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: if you want headless, ust get a NAS drive/device
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: build your own. always build your own :P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ideally would like to have this box connected with TV and Sound system
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: there's lots of routers out there that you can connect a hard drive to through USB or eSATA
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: which means also decent video/sound card
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: that come with a dlna server built in to them
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Thing is, the HP N40L beats the price of a decent NAS, and is much faster
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so the out of the box solution is the mac mini
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get a mini/micro-itx box and install debian on it. whammo - nas
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: for the price of a windows server OS, get a TV with a built in dlna client
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: then you don't have to worry about lossy audio from whatever audio connection you use
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yes but something needs to stream to the TV. I found NAS to be slow.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i stream hd from my file server. works just fine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: don't use wireless?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, wireless kills performance.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so this microserver...essentially if I can put it together such that it looks like a macmini...then it's the right solution :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: both wired and wireless
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i'm using high-end wifi gear
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How about a NUC?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: whats NUC?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1080p can be wonky sometimes, yes
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Google it.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's the new intel thing
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The HP microservers come ready made with gigabit... never had speed issues there
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Basically a tiny i3 minicomputer.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you use wireless and wired, then you won't know which is used, so the wireless kills performance. Hig end wifif gear is still inferior to gigabit ethernet by a magnitude, at least.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You don't need a lot of computing power just to transfer files, even a gigabit speed.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: this nuc...anyone building boxes using it yet?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: looks pretty much what I need
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I will, waiting for the i5 version, though. It will be my next desktop.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I mean any manufacturer :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I am already OCDing on too many projects...cannot add a build your own box project to the list
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes... intel.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's not complicated, adding a ssd and memory takes 15 minutes.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Your local shop can probably do it for a fee.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i meant that i have more than one computer. one is wifi, the others are wired
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the one with wifi works fine too
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i want to make a alias to runto a roomnumber using my mapper if i press lotus for example but when it sends mapper runto 845 its said unknown command any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: make it execute instead of send to world
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: drop down box
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks alot :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: When making a trigger, what is the trigger for vorpal?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: as the giver or the receiver?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: I am the one vorpaling the mob.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: When making a trigger, what is the trigger for vorpal when I am the one vorpaling the mob?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: When making a trigger, what is the trigger for Vorpal?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: When making a trigger, what is the trigger for a vorpal
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: look it up on the aard wiki
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: I'll try thanks.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or just check your logs...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Logs? Sorry, am new to Aliasing and triggers.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: new
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You should log all mud output, so you can check your logs for things like that.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: How do I check it?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Eh... you don't know how to open a file and search it?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Er, sorry let me check.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: no way to have statmn rep from Bast report to a channel is there?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: in mush, i have an alias that is 'dd' that does something. Is there a way to have it only trigger if that is all i enter instead of happening every time a word has 2 d's in it?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: add ^ at the beginning
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, don't go out of your way to unanchor it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go to file -> aliases and say new and just type "dd", that's exactly how it behaves
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ^dd$ == dd and only "dd"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you only have to worry about anchors if you set it to regex and then remove the anchors
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Which is the default behaviour of mush, regardless of if you use regexp or not
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never check the "regular expression" checkbox for aliases and triggers unless you know why you'rechecking it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so don't set it to regex
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what abelinc said
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Speaking of which, is there a way to make that the default for mush? To have it use regexp instead of having to change it each time?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lame
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: recompile
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger looks at Trachx and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ok i know this is a long shot... but here it goes.  I have set up a VPN server on a virtual machine thats running xp on a vista home basic machine.  I have set up port forwarding on my router and i'm using a second router as a switch with dhcp off.  The VM gets a valid specified IP and has teh internetz.  The VPN client-side connects just fine from the outside, however once the vpn is up and running the client loses the internetz (the host and the VM have internetz just fine) and the client get access back once the VPN is disconnected... Help please!
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: routing problem
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: typical for some route override VPNs
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I normally set up VPNs to only send across traffic destined to for the LAN across the VPN rather than funnelling all Internet traffic
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i'm trying to set up a system where i could use my intranet resources (printers and NAS mainly from the outside)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's different than Internet access
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you connect from the outside, does the remote computer have access to those inside services?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: the client?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just check client routing table before and after establishing VPN connection  
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if so, then in the remote computer's VPN settings, go to properties, networking, tcp/ip, click advanced and UNcheck that checkbox
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the client...you said that the client loses Internet...but does it gain access to the VPN resources which you're trying to gain
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: @ trachx will do.  @Abe i believe it does.  Will double check.  And if it does, which box are you talking about unchecking?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the only box where I indicated
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it says "use default gateway on remote network"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want that, since there's no reason to have your google search go first to home server before going to google (or other Internet traffic)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, for security reason it is good - you don't want your client to be proxy to your intranet
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: makes sense
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: brb checking
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: now it doesnt even want to connect... will restart the server and try again
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iSSH FTW ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Fiain Tech: So, I'm using blowtorch. I'm attempting to use my portal alias in another rt alias. but instead of the portal name, it searches for null. Any help?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I wonder why I can't get a 'DISARMS' trigger to work. 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're getting the pattern wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just use bast's
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: pretty simple... 'DISARMS' is supposed to triger 'get eapon' and 'wear eapon'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that won't work
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DISARMS only matches "DISARMS"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: pretty simple... 'DISARMS' is supposed to triger 'get @weapon' and 'wear @weapon'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers#I_tried_making_a_trigger_but_it_isn%27t_firing._What_did_I_do
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: DISARMS isn't supposed to trigger anything :P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: man... I get that's it, fiendish... I'm an old zMud user
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: we'll try iy with a few "*" for bookends
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not a very safe way to do a disarm pattern, though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, use bast's because it'll have a better pattern
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I could use bast's... as comprehensive as his stuff is, he doesn't have one for EVERYTHING, and I just really wanted to get ONE trigger working for myself.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he doesn't need one for everything...he does have one for THAT
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: noted, and thankyou, Magna....
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Fiendish.. what do you think will be unsafe?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's certainly a 'shotgun at a fly', but what's the worse that could happen?  
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me doing "Hey guys, my trigger of DISARMS isn't working" and your trigger firing ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just be sure to make eapon very precise, or anyone can make you pick up any weapon
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: arg
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just be sure to make @weapon very precise, or anyone can make you pick up another weapon
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: good point... I use serials for @weapon
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and point taken on the patter, magna.  I'll include the whole sentence, minus the MOB name
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in this particular case random misfires won't be terrible as long as @weapon is precise
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but misfires in other triggers could be bad
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I could also limit to the right color (which happens to be the same as the default tech channel)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bad idea
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... how come?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: triggering on color is more likely to break, I think
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's certainly more restrictive, and at the mercy of the 'color gods'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's easier to just anchor
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: regardless, I'll be able to puzzle it out now... thanks all
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, Abelinc's site now has a tell autoreply plugin for MUSHclient :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose related to the guy asking me about it yesterday?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, related to him asking Abe about it yesterday, but yeah ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how did the conversation about a DPS meter turn out yesterday?  did you all decide if it could be done?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not that hard to do
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every fight and level I get a report of how much damage I've taken and given, as well as exp per second
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'd sure use one if it were available
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for me, the key would be 'damage per round'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: round = 3 seconds
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no way to tell where one round ends and the other begins.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aside from that, can always just track damage for the last 3 seconds.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so I could sort wether I'm getting more damage from spell-a x 400 x 6 hits, our spell-b x 300 x 8 hits, etc...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what you want dtrack ingame for
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes, but as stated befor, DTrack only count each hit... it doesn't care if I'm getting 1 hit or 6.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neither should you
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: now what kind of comment is that?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an accurate one
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pay attention to fight lengths, rounded to nearest 3 seconds...whether a given spell is hitting more or less times, its total damage is the important thing
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reset dtrack between tests
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lag will affect the results
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it won't
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, if you say so.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. I agree.  TOTAL damage is the important thing, and Dtrack doesn't do that when it tracks spells.  it just tracks the average per hit, regardless of wether a spell hits twice, or 8 times per tound
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lag is between rtt of given packets, is orders of magnitude smaller than combat rounds, and is normalized as you fight
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it wouldn't affect the results in a way that isn't actually real anyway. you can't send a new attack command until after your lag has cleared
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're getting 3-second lag, you should have a serious talk with your service provider
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you're assuming only one type of lag, Magna.  Both the server and the client box will/can be busy enough to slow down time-based calculations.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no I'm not, both of those are also well under the round time
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't matter, because you can detect combat rounds
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: watch melee
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: by using your brain. I've been monitoring damage per round for years
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've got gigs of data which says it's not that hard to determine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. that works, fiendish, but I know when I'm not using the right tool for the job =)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're concerned about lag, then stack the fight
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cast spell 10 times at the start, which takes both your computer and network out of the equation, leaving just the server...which has its internal lag monitored whenever something takes more than a tenth of a second iirc, which rarely happens
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just use some AI to play instead of you, and log once a week to check progress
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so given that its lag is almost never a tenth of a second, counting 3-second rounds is quite reliable
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta tweak that, trachx, it's not doing so well
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think this is a good approach. any lag you experience is going to realistically affect your DPS. you shouldn't try to game your DPS number in a way that doesn't match actual interaction
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: until you use up all the bandwidth or processor cycles because something kicked on when you were fighting.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: best to just fight as normal and monitor combat rounds
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bandwidth and processor cycles don't matter for that, hans
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they will affect whatever you are using to reference your timing agent.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they won't
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't get the time if your computer is busy.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't, I can
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: luckily my computer institutes preemptive multitasking
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so today i launch mush and its acting like I dont have any mapped rooms for search - any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: anyone familiar with s&d that can help me tackle a problem?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: you'd have to ask your question before we could answer that
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i did nobody answered lol
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so today i launch mush and its acting like I dont have any mapped rooms for search - any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Did you update mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Where's your Aardwolf.db?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It could have gotten renamed/lost
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you did, you probably overwrote your Aarwdolf.db, you need to replace that with your real db
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: havent done anything with mush since i loged out last night
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And by the way it's not a snd problem, it's a mush mapper problem.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at BobTheGreat.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: okay - i just dont know what to do to check
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Poke around in your mush folder for a .db file that is about 10 mb-20 mb depending on how many rooms you had mapped
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: im in db_backups now.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Or that :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: 11,034 my biggest
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: use that
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: just copy/paste over the other one. CLOSE MUSH FIRST
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: what do i do to " use " it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What I just said :P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: if it's not called Aardwolf.db, rename it to that.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Aardwolf.db.Backup_automatic it says
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Rename it to 'Aardwolf.db' and plop it into mush's root folder.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods, ditch the Backup_auto part, just clikc it once, hit f2, then delete everything after .db
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: uh oh
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: it changed to this - Aardwolf (2)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: type data base file
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: im so lost sigh
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ok, here's a step-by-step of what you need to do
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: close mush-delete old db file from mush root- copy backup from backup into root- rename it to original db. start mush again.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Close mush, open up you MC folder and delete your existing Aardwolf.db. Go to db_backups and grab the proper file, rename it it to Aardwolf.db and paste it where you deleted the first one from.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Open mush back up, and viola
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: woohoo, I got it right :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at Nuanse.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: can someone tap into my computer and do it?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ok
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat grins mischievously.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: oh you wouldn't... :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: go to join.me and get a session going. send me the id.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'll step you through it, but you'll still be doing all the work
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I'll take this over :) Loshy's a friend
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: quick question - is "#" a special char for matching trigger?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Are you asking if '#' is a reserved character in regexp matching?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: if I were to match "*##*focus*"  woudl it look for "#"?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You don't need to escape the #, no
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: brilliant... just what I needed to know.. .thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Worst comes to worst, you can escape anything you want to be safe. So if you're unsure of if # would be a literal "#", you could do "\#" to no ill effect
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: can't hurt
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it's not needed, but it won't hurt anything if you're unsure.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm looking at elemental abilities, and I'm not really sure what the screen echo is for when it runs out... I guess I need to cancel everything, cast focus and sit on it for ten minutes
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ## You can now use Focus abilities., i believe
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's when the cool-down expires
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Use soff
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the focus last like 10-15 minutes... then there's a cool down.... soff?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Then you just need to know the spell number
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: spell off tags
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you also have recoff
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at Frostpaw.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I use spell numbers almost exclusivly in alias' and such...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: so tags spells on + tags recoveries on
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: and you can just trigger those instead
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: just an idea *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They're probably already on, if you use bast spellup
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sounds like a great idea....
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ahhh... it's tags SPELLUPS on... spells wasn't working
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: sorry, been awhile :p
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no no... that was a small thing... not seeing any tags for recoveries, though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: guess they're in spellups too then
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, you'll only see a tag when the recovery is added, or expires
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just check tags
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or look at help spelltags
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: has all the samples you'll need
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's some heavy stuff.  took me a minute to digest it, but it's just the tool I need... thanks.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: question for mushclient users
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: when i used zmud i could % an alias so it would auto use the mobname 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i cant figure it out on mush
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: zmud uses %1 for mobname - whats mushclient value anyone know?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you tried %1?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: yes - didnt work 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: wasnt sure what mushcleints was - if even have one 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: i am tarded, but i accidentally somehow moved one of the MUSHwindow boxes halfway up past the toolbar on top the the client, and can't move it back because i can't click&drag on the top of the mini-window. any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: or aardreset
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I forget
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: cool, easier than i had feared
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: Im searching for plugins online to make the experience more efficient and have found some for aardwolf. Problem is every time I copy them over to an xml file in my Dreamweaver and save it into my plugins folder to add on here I get this message [WARNING] C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\eq.xml Line    8: Expected '<', got "-" (content not permitted here) (Cannot load) and others like it
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: im not very tech savvy so dont know how to fix this issue
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dreamweaver? why?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it probably adds something in the header. line 8 is broken
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's line 8?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: god damn steam. only getting 3-4MB/s download
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: question about mush vs zmud - on zmud you can use %1 for mob name - whats the mush version anyone know?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: same... 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: though there are other conditions
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: doesnt work for me or anyoine i know.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: we been pursuing this for a while :P
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the trig pattern, use * unless you selected regex
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the action part, the %1 will be the first *
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's an alias give me by Norton... ^kill(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$    type 'kill <mobname>'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: if the mob name is where the second * is, then it's %2 to access that one
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: your actions will be 'cast whatever %1'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that, I wouldn't use a MUSH alias
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type "alias kill c whatever"
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is actually much better from a lag point of view for casters to use BOTH kill and spell - the kill action uses bugger all time, and there is no out of combat bonus for spells
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: so alias kill * to 'kill %1;c somespell %1' is the better choice
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Obviously different if you want to backstab
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i did alias kill * 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Does emote work in a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Emote is a mudside thing, trigger is not.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Just trying to make a vorpal trigger. Thanks anyway.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can use echo for testing
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can put any action you want into the send part
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, for testing you can use either echo or there's a test trigger menu option
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Testing would be hard, as vorpal is a bit hard to do.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Wait, new option?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you use echo or test trigger
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: use echo as Abelinc suggested.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing new about either of them
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paste in echo Deep magic stirs within your weapon. It seems to have a life of its own.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and make sure that you're either not using regular expression or you've anchored your trig so that me using that text in channels doesn't fire it
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Thanks, have to remember that.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is there a way I can make mapper just go down from the aardhotel instead of going N then using a portal?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cexit d
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though i'm not sure what the problem is
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: any way to cexit the "i have come to see the genie" thing in sandcastle? he takes to long to trans me for mapper to recognize the cexit. any command for waiting a tick or some such?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there is a setting to make the wait longer
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mapper cexit wait
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: nice! thanks ontuct i just found the help file
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: cexit_wait, he means
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to use wait not cexit_wait
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: redryn D is a valid exit in my settings, it just seems to ignore it
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need also not too old mush - just check whether there is info about wait when you do mapper help exits
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ontuct did you try it?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cexit_wait is good onle when cexits take some time, not when you need to wait for mob action before moving
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: no I just confirmed with a hover over the room that it was there. manually entering it as a CEXIT worked.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: north and down are equally short routes so the mapper doesn't really care which way it takes, but if you set it as a cexit it gets priority
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: seems odd it prioritizes it the way it does lol
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why do you want to move down instead of north anyway?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: no, I didn't. mapper chose to run n, then go through my portal back to recall, rather just going D
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: huh, that's strange
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it was. and about 7 steps longer, not that I'm a big player in the GQ world.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ontuct, where are you talking about? From the Aard Hotel?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but using a custom exit solved it
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: My mapper just recalls from the Aardwolf Hotel.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that room is no portal.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: recall != portal
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have a portal alias setup for it to recall when in a noportal room.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is in the helpfiles for portals.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Others use Home.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If they have a manor.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Well my issue there is solved now. Thanks all
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: my script arent working for some reason and im getting message like {affon}501,120
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: ive tryed reinstalling them
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you turn triggers off? check Game->Configure->Triggers and "Enable Triggers" should be checked
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: it stats this slist command does not work on mxit
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: tags spellup off
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i swapped over
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: still getting odd messages 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i get this message after each spellup casts 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: {affon}501,150
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's a tag - buy you likely already know that
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i know i know but spellup tags are off
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: odd... odd indeed
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type tags and check it
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: bastspellup probably auto-turns them back on
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: he said he was connected from mxit
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: ok triggers working again and my s&d was messing up
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: he said he was switching over, idk :P
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i am confused myself
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: seems like he's back on mush, bast :P
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: yip lol
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like Winklewinkle's bot is messing with him.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, if he had my spellup plugin installed, he wouldn't be seeing the spellup tags at all
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: this is the first time its happened lol
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: my s&d seems to been having problems lol it say i dont know where you are now - try :LOOK . ive tried and ive mapped the area and say the same thing
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is your mapper window updating when you move?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i dont use the window 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i stopped using it after i messed that up ..even reinstalling it doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type, "protocols gmcp"  is the Room one on?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you in a room which is nomap flagged?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: Any of you folks know why the input (place you type) bar wouldn't appear on mushclient after a fresh install?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: sure it's not just resized really small?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: resetaard has been used, just so people know
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: and it doesnt help
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: does it appear when you click in the output window and start typing? (assuming you have the "all typing goes to command window" tickbox checked in the options)
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: Asking (Sorry, this is for a friend ~ thanks for the help by the way).
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: nothing like some third party troubleshooting.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: I think that helped him guys. :) Thanks Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In the 'Script' section of a MUSHclient plugin, which function would I create that MUSH calls everytime it starts?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, OnPluginInstall will work
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you sure you want it to run when mushclient loads and not when it connects?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Actually either way is fine. It's a miniwindow that doesn't depend on Aardwolf at all.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can either put it in OnPluginInstall then, or just not put it in a function at all
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... I seem to have lost my main aardwolf window. 'resetaard' won't bring it back either. What do?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define lost
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I cannot see it anymore.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And it is not under any existing window.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you see anything?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: i lost mine not to long ago Bob, when I added a plugin. I ended up having to redownload whole new mush
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm talking through my comm log.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ...hmm.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reinstall Aardwolf_Main_Layout plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: even just trying to readd the window plugin did nothing
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'll try reinstalling now
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: No dice :/
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: it was weird and sucked. I had to re add all my old macros and added script
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what did you do?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I just created a miniwindow in my plugin, and as soon as that one showed up, my main window disappeared.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: uhhhhh
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: send me your plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: did you try uninstalling the mini window 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: (Fiendish: Did you get my tell? I'm not sure if it went through)
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: which plugins are connected to main window that disappeared i wonder? Might try reinstalling all of them at once
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no plugins are connected to the main window except for aard_layout.xml
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for now try disabling the aard main layout plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's disabled.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and can you see?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and if you re-enable it?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bob, your miniwindow just fills your whole screen
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: change the color from black to red and you'll see it easier
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and of course you don't have a provision for hiding the miniwindow on plugin uninstall or disable, so it never goes away :)
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (until you restart mushclient)
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I expected the miniwindow to self-destruct on plugin uninstall. Guess I was wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yup, wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I guess that's why it's a good idea to make plugins by copying someone else's plugin file and adjusting to fit your purpose...my miniwin plugins do disappear when the plugin is removed/disabled, but simply cuz I'd copypasta'd the functions without paying much attention, rather than because I'd actually thought about it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Are there currently any widgets for non-colored editable text in a miniwindow, or am I just going to have to roll out my own?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: editable how?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient doesn't have a mechanism for typing into a MW
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: 1-line edit/multiline is fine
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could have an alias like "addline *"
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: can u can and paste if your playing from bbssh?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: inventory nolonger showing level of item at end of each line... what did I do?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Noobjlevels ... there it is
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: He's just rabbitting
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I only hit it once
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: If I buy a Dell shipping with W7, but WITHOUT media...it'll be hard/impossible to switch it over to an SSD I'm buying separately?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: difficult, yes
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: last Dell I bought my wife was near impossible to switch to ANYTHING... proprietary thru and thru
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: what if I get an W7 Ultimate Upgrade disc (academic discount)...If I installed that "over" Premium, I could switch the boot drive?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: dunno if that can be used for new installs or not
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ahh switching the drive itself might not be considered upgrade? bah
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: newegg still had win7 ult oem discs a couple weeks ago
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wait, if you get Dell with W7, why don't you just get CD/DVD with it ?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Dunno, their website explicitly says "No Media" 
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: don't buy directly from dell
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Probably one of those stupid recovery partitions?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, it's a recovery partition
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: buy from one of resellers, you have more choices (like media) and usually they are cheaper
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Durn, the academic "discount" for W7 Ultimate OEM is still like 180 ... so no one knows if using an upgrade disc from Premium to Ultimate (which is like $25) would allow me to switch the entire installation over to an SSD ?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but cannot you just use acronis to move to SSD ?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Oh I hadn't considered acronis...the SSD i'm looking at is only 256GB though, different size...
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, you can probably move at least recovery partition
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: won't work unless the drive has the exact same characteristics
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, if you plan to buy dell you should buy with all desired options, hardware upgrade with dell is a bit painful
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, if it is dekstop you should prefer Optiplex than Vostro 
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for acronis, why it won't work? recovery partition is rather small and he should copy only that partition + MBR
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Installing the SSD would be hard? Why? Optiplex has slots, is it the way they wire teh inside?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Shouldnt matter, you can use a mounting bracket and get a longer SATA cable.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you plan to buy dell you should take also their 5 year NBD warranty, if you plan to take shorter like 2 year, maybe you should consider just building your own PC
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: For my old man...doesnt trust my abilities haha
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IMO Dell with short warranty is not worth its price
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: quick question, I'm looking for a free client for my friend who is interested in giving aardwolf a try. Not familiar with any Mac clients myself.  Any recommedations for someone brand new to mudding?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Does the font look atrocious on this site to anybody else? http://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric/
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Looks fine to me
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: What browser?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Chrome
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: looks fine to me in opera, chrome, Firefox. 
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: and fine on FF too
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Which means it should look fine in IE 10 too, since it's fully standards compliant.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No idea about pre-10 though, it ain't worth booting IE for the first time on this PC to look :P
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: It looks like nearest-neighbor scaling in FF 19 for me. :/
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: font-family: "Liberation Sans", sans-serif;
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I'm assuming the Gnumeric page isn't supposed to look like this... http://wikisend.com/download/590438/gnumeric.PNG
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use imgur.com next time
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't have the font installed so it's a fallback
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and they have only one font defined :\
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I always go with several font options if i design something
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Good point, but you didn't design that.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the fallback fonts on linux tend to be horrid
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: usually because they're as free as possible
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I'm running XP.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: - 5
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good choice
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir pats Tigernuts on his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts has just 'pfft'ed you! How disgusting!
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hey, don't pfft ME.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I'll live with my missing font. XP lives for about another year.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i pfft'd Fagnir, not you :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Frostpaw goes 'pfft' at [Deputy] Trurien and covers him with globs of spittle!
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tiger's butts need some loving from XP.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wish xp was dead already so i could stop supporting it
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nobody forces you to support it
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: XP is a good OS.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: 7 is better nowadays :P so
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my clients do because they don't want to buy new licenses
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned expensive
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: don't get 8... nothing supports it yet...
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite mutters something quietly to himself.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and superbly inconvenient
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Windows 8 will be the best in a few years... but by then some new fangled OS will be out
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can buy licenses for 7 for microsofts in-house prices
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Win 8 full is not bad.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so 20 euros a pop
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I have windows 8 pro... I had to rip apart the registry to get my vpn client to work... and mapping network drives is a nightmare!
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows 8 has potential if they kill metro with sp1
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: + fix some other things. it's mainly the ui tho
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: They always do
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I mean, always fix stuff up reasonably with SP1
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but 8 has some fundamental design problems
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: they have a release date for that yet?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite smirks.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: If I had Windows 8, I'd probably install Classic Shell.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 7 has been awesome since the public beta
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: q1 2014 probably :P
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite flashes a mischievous grin at Frostpaw.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not fond of 7, too slow
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Windows 8 was  rebranded Vista
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: err, 7
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 7 is way faster than xp on new hardware
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the install i use at work is effing horrid
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not only rebranded. 7 is what vista was supposed to be
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How long till Java dies?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it won't
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have aero and all visual effects turned off. windows classic look. snappy as hell
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: when the internet dies
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my vinyl records sound WAY better than CDs....  that doesn't mean that I play them in my car, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Were there any significant differences between Windows 7 at release and Windows Vista SP2? I didn't use either of them enough to notice besides small differences in skin
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: explorer was more polished, new taskbar. that's about it, i guess
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most new stuff was under the hood
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can't stand xp any more. explorer sucks. can't use quick search from start menu (winkey+appname+enter). taskbar sucks. can't snap windows. startup/shutdown/sleep/hibernate is slower than 7
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fibber
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Am I the only one who sets keyboard shortcuts for launching applications??
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use winkey+number combos as well
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have pretty much everything on the taskbar
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Idon't launch programs regularly enough to bother with with shortcuts for them
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yeah, I pin my stuff on the taskbar too, pretty fun :P
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i never close applications anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 15 windows open on the taskbar right now
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone know if xterm is allowed in manor objects?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It is.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Any reccomendations for a SSH client for win7?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: putty
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks Vak
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also WinSCP for other protocols
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grager Tech: accidently moved one pluginwindow up on my screen so i can only see half of it any ideas on how i can get it down ? 
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ctrl + what is search on a site?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl+f
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ms paint full screen shows a nice a4. at the drawing board everything is nice. print preview adds a big empty space on the left side? why? ... when trying to print it in win photo viewer, it looks nice on the normal view but when trying to print it, it gets rotated??? the file is bmp.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you checked your print settings?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'd check page setup in whatever program you're printing from, and make sure you have correct page size and orientation.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Your first issue is using ms paint. Download something like GIMP, or PSE if you like, and deal in absolutes via canvas size
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then what is his second issue? :)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: win photo viewer
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But seriously, the concept of 'first issue' is akin to 'root problem' - you have a first one, which cascades. Often solving the first, root problem eliminates the 2nd, 3rd through nth problem.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: true. and I agree with the problem 
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and there is good amount of "GIMP for noobz" documentation out there so learning curve shouldnt be too high..
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: the learning curve for GIMP is in the power of GIMP to do more than just adjust canvas size. If you can adjust canvas size in MS paint, you can do so in GIMP with little to no learning curve encountered at all
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. paint is bad.. also photo viewer. did you know that it saves your rotated pic without confirmation? thats the rudest thing ever
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i use paint.net from now on:)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Photoshop is the way to go - no need for other programs
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: GIMP if you prefer free
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yeah, I knew photoviewer does automatic save on rotate
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have no words...
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then you should download openoffice ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: irfan view worked nicely this time:)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Any reason why using ? as a single char wildcard in Ubuntu would prevent something like ls from working correctly?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: a single ? would display all single letter filenames
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm trying 'ls log?' as there are numbered, 1 digit logs, and named, multi-char logs also. I could always use grep, but I don't see why ls wouldn't work (not that experienced with Ubuntu)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: try ls log* IIRC
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: man bash and search for "pattern matching"
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: the * will get all of them, the ? restricts the wildcard to 1 char... I think
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I know how to use a regex to do the same :-) Just curious now
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's not a regexp, it's called a glob pattern
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: nodanrr
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The * is glob, is isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: hmm, that didnt work
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yes, but so is ?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What are you trying to do, Vak?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So is there any reason why 'ls log?' wouldn't yield a file named log2 ?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: it should list log2
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, it should (and it does, just tried it)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: it actually depends which shell you are currently using, assuming its bash
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you sure the file doesn't have an extension?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ubuntu server
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tech Ok, try /bin/ls instead of just ls, same?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you can also try echo log?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hehe... not an extension, but I just saw they are actually .log# :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, that explains it :D
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that MIGHT explain it, yes :D
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, for future reference, files starting with dot are "hidden" and won't show up on a non-specific glob match (or without the -a flag on a regular ls)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah, at some point I got annoyed by that whole thing, and followed some tutorial on having -a by default
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For ls, I mean
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And now is comes back to bite me in the ass :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: it*
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It should only be used for config files and directories, definitely not for logs and stuff.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: imho
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The log# files are meta logs, though it isn't something I've written
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'd be inclined to call them blahblah.log, coming from Windows
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It is ok to use file extensions in *nix too, just not mandatory :D
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sure you'll have a chuckle, I found out what ^s and ^q do earlier tonight :-) Funny, *after* I found out what had happened
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: We are all newbies once :P
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: At least!
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i are nOObie
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Anyone know of a decent area repop plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: how do i disable a screen saver on windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: same as on windows 7
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i punch the screen and problem solved?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: somewhere in personalization settings... throwing it against the wall would disable it too
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: don't know if it went through, but i threw it against the wall now the screen doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm having a hard time with the 'wait' syntax on the 'mapper cexit' command.  I've tried 'mapper cexit wait 5 enter portal', mapper cexit enter portal;
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think it is mapper cexit_wait time, then the cexit on next line
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: NM.. I see it now
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... that's exactly it, ontuct thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: then probably a set it back to 2 so it doesn't drive you mad lol
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my trouble is that I thought it would be an EXTRA argument for a single CEXIT command... not a permenant change to the setting
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: was reading through general forum.. The post 
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: was reading through general forum.. The post "Tyebald: Re: campaign completion message " triggered someting in my Bast CP window.. don't work now.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What doesn't work now? The cp window?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: was reading through general forum.. The post "Tyebald: Re: campaign completion message " triggered someting in my Bast CP window.. don't work now.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: quick easy solution is to just close mush and reopen. You can also restart the offending plugin, which could be any one of the Bast chains from the broadcaster to the driver plugin to the miniwin wrapper
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oops... sorry bout that
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Perhaps just doing a 'cp check' would fix it.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, i would assume it thinks you're not on a campaign anymore
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: since it saw the completion message
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: be careful fixing with cp check if you are using statDB - very easy to pollute that db with invalid data
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: theres a way to invoke the window.. was told it once, but foregt...
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so if "don't work now" means the mob list isn't showing, then it's working fine as far as i can tell
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: file->plugins?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I tried a re-install.. didn't work.. will try restarting the client now...
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Probably didn't install the particular Bast plugin with the issue - for every window you see, there are 3 involved plugins at a minimum
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: restarting the client didn't kickstart it... going to the web page
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you're probably not going to be able to kickstart it
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it thinks you're not on a cp, it probably won't start working again until you take a new cp
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's what worked:  'mcp CP toggle'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: just needed to tell it to who the window
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: who = show
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: anyone have any suggestions for a new hard drive that will solely be used for backing up my file system / files?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: WD/Seagate with 5 year warranty
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: any particular series in either of those?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: amazon glacier for long-term reliable vital data backup
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't really go wrong with those two, so I'd just buy as big as your hardware can take and your pocketbook is comfortable with.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ordinary cloud services for other stuff
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Glacier is a big pain in the butt though.  If you are going to upload a lot of data, you have to be *very* careful not to download too much at a time or it will cost a fortune
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also for security reasons you should consider encrypting your backup with True Crypt
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for proffesional use it may be worth considering using SED HDD drives (though that is rather expensive)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: can anyone suggest a simple inventory plugin for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Ohk, so I am going to try to update my current bast mush with the newest - is there anything I should keep in mind so I don't lose all of my aliases/settings/etc?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Welp, hooray for dropbox I guess
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there a way to hide a window similar to mapper hide, but with the group window?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I dont think so
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: boo, thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Ohkay, so I'm trying to update my client (I use bash mush). Ideally I don't want to lose my aliases and all that jazz. In addition to using Bash mush, I also have a few plugins that are reliant on bash's plugins but are not included with the whole client itself. How can I do this?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: The eqset plugin shows how to do a lot of things to a set, but how do I create a set name to start it?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Anyone ever had any experience with the Mush package just suddenly... losing everything? Woke up this morning and the client had closed, when I opened it up all of my aliases and triggers were gone, my aardwolf.db is empty, and absolutely nothing i had was retained.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Eep, that's scary.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have randomly had alias and triggers disappear
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: If the client closed, then certainly you would have lost all changes made since the last time it was saved... has it been running non-stop since you started playing?  =)
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No, all of the aliases were saved :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thought you said they disappeared?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They did, but they /were/ saved. I opened the client yesterday fresh and they were there, today they're not.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Now i question why I ever made the switch from tt++. tt++ may take a little more knowhow to work, but it's never lost hundreds of hours of work on me.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: purely conjecture, but maybe come crazy autoupdate script fired and replaced your mushclient folder with a fresh install
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I would be so ungodly pissed if it had.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea... i've been using mush for a couple of years now and haven't had something like that happen before though
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it seems really weird though, since all the aliases and stuff are saved in separate files, so corruption seems very unlikely
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: always a problem with databases -- this is why my speedwalker works over text files
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you can always recover from text
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: flat files are so much slower than dbs though
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You can recover from database loss/crash too, if you just backup properly. :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: only at start up, the rest of mine goes into memory
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I back up critical data :P Not my game client :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: as long as you don't replace a good db with a corrupted version
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, you can, if you do.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the other problem with databases is they don't sync across machines -- if you get a change conflict, merging pretty much impossible
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mush databases sync very well across machines if you use dropbox
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Use dropbox, Swalec
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the band dropbox?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: really? Well try opening a client in two places by mistake
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Most version management systems understand binary files.  Well, modern ones anyways.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I had to hack in a db close on disconnect, but i think fiendish included that in the package now.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I.e., if you're using CVS you might be in trouble, but otherwise you're fine :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, they do Jhav, they understand that binary files are unmergable
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: binary files are mergable if translatable
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if, if, if, if
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Swalec, unless you are literally playing from two computers at once, there should never be a conflict in your database :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And since that's against the rules, I assume you are not :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Never once run across an if which yielded no in a nontrivial casew
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: case*
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: "should" -- example, I play on one machine, then I play on another
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Swalec: You can do that just fine now
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but when playing on the first I forgot to start dropbox
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i play from 2 computers so i have 2x the apm!
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: before it was an issue because the database closed on client close instead of connection close, that's fixed now.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: now I open up first computer, start dropbox, change on both sides, conflict
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Then you may lose a trivial amount of your effort, and you'll remember next time.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dropbox is perpetual in my experience - no need to start by default
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: maybe, regardless, it has broken as I said it does
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: And I've just told you 3 times, it won't do that anymore.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the need is simple. My home space is true crypted. If dropbox starts by default, it starts *before* the Dropbox location exists. Hence, I have to start it manually.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I have thought about this you know:-)
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: create an event based on the truecrypt completing which starts the service
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, I use unison instead and accept that occasionally I will loose data
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: even that doesn't fix the problem because with Dropbox you have to wait until the files have synced before you can start. Otherwise, you get conflicts. 
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for whatever reason, 'Aardwolf_Inventory_Serials' goes from 'disabled' to 'enabled' uncommanded... every dozen levels or so
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Is anyone familiar with mapper enough to know if there is a way to make it not go through certain rooms as part of a path to somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: put level locks on
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: look for exit level locks
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: mapper lockexit 
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Ah ha, thank you :)
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: Question what does this msg mean->unable to create TCP/IP socket for aardwolf ,code =10055(no buffer space available)
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: no buffer space looks like a memory issue but I can't really be sure
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I'm not even familiar with that happening so yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: lol got mre than a 1tb left
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: Is it possible to add triggers or aliases to an existing plugin i made with plugin wizard in MUSH? or do i have to do it thru edit on the plugin menu manually?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 1 tb is harddisk space not memory
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: would be a pretty expensive computer
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Or not :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Damn lag :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: Tepey, I'm not sure there, just to give you an answer.. sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: np. if i have to i will just add them in manually. i just thought there might be an easy way to import them into it through menu screens or something.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: where do I check mem.?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hey all, anyine know where i can get drivers for msi ms-7142?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: onboard vga drivers
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: tried msi's site?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i did but searched myself dead :(
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: driverguide.com or something.. check google?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: what is the best file format for a dictionary
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: what client is that
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: oops i mean wrong chan
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: can anyone direct me to a website explaining how to get data from GMCP ?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: google.com
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the aard wiki, Remarto
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there's a section on GMCP, all the aardwolf modules, and how to get the data using various clients
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So... Donglegate, huh?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: mhmm, that was a fork they didn't expect
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Little bit worried, actually, because I make the dongle joke any time thumb drives come up :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Up to and including singing Barry White when I insert one
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: who uses sharptracker script?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm guess nobody :(
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh, they have made graphene based headphone drivers:) its so so cool:)
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "graphene" is a sick-sounding name (not a cool name) -- (initially) suspect something defective somewhere there
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am really hoping the graphene supercapcitors actually pan out
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: would make a huge difference in electronics
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: does highly compressed files work, like 10mb windows7.zip
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: SwiftKey is an amazing app.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I hated losing the bberry tactile keyboard when I switched to an android phone, but this thing is aboslutely amazing
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I actually prefer Swype for composing messages and such...it was really easy to get trained to my vocabulary and swiping style. (I've also got the old PalmPilot Graffiti input system installed as an option for myself as well--that works really nicely for mobile mudding/telnet/etc.)
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I ignore the swiping and just type and use their prediction and autotcorrect, which is very good.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: A lot of people prefer swype in portrait, but not in landscape
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there are some apps that will let you do that, too
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: The swiping ends up being much faster, and you can still use the prediction and autocorrect. It takes me about 40% as long to enter a text message via swype now.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: feels like i have to retrain my brain to swipe, and that it's not faster than typing (I'm a fast typer)
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I typed pretty fast on my Blackberry as well, but it feels like my typing speed on a virtual keyboard is limited by how quickly it recognizes keypresses
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: moving to swype for my primary text input ended up making it much faster
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I type with 7-8 fingers on my ipad, but swype in portrait when possible on my android phone
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I don't have a tablet, so I can't say as far as that goes.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: swyping in landscape tends to hurt my fingers after a while
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: once you have build a good swype word bank you can be speedin
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods at LOL YOLO Gruagach.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there are still a few words that swyping doesn't work for
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i like it much better though
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: though I still dislike having to spell out neurosu before I get the options for neurosurgeon/neurosurgical/neurosurgery
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: does that come up a lot?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think i could type the last 6-7 characters with autocorrect faster than I could look uup, break my train of through to pick the word, and select it
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i type with my thumbs on android portrait, what fingers do you use to swipe?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: In my world, unfortunately, yes, Vorpes. My doc is referring me to one to look at further options since I've been through PT and my back is still rapidly deteriorating to the point where I'm having difficulty maintaining the house. He may only go with epidurals, but surgery is a possibility as well given that there are 4-6 days a week now where I can't stand for more than 5 minutes or walk more than 50 feet, and at least 1 day out of the week I'll be unable to walk at all due to nerves being pinched to having zero motor control in my legs. :/
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I just use an index finger
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well dang man that sucks!
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how long do you have to use it before you can fully compare it, do ya think?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: You're correct in that it is faster to just swype the whole word, Kojiro
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i just use one thumb to swype
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have actually found i like swiftkey better too. seems it has a better predictive type and swipe systems
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I promised myself I'd give it a week, Kojiro, but I haven't considered going back to texting since about the 4th day. Once you get most of the words you use most often put into the dictionary, it goes really fast.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod i find it much easier
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: just texting or composing email?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: either, both.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i use it for email also. work emails get messy though there is a lot of technical acronyms that aren't in the dictionary
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: once you put those acronyms into your dictionary, it gets much faster.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: like anything, it needs to be taught your vocabulary
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any ideas on why my computer's sound works fine in VLC, but nothing in any of the browswers? Using the latest version of Flash and browsers...
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Simple: The volume is turned all the way down or muted on whatever Flash-type player is in use.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: or
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Did you turn down the volume in your mixer for chrome or whatever browser you're using?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Well, worth checking anyway.  Also, if Windows Vista/7/8 check the mixer and make sure your browser isn't muted.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: XP...and I already went into the Internet Options where it says play sounds in browser AND checked some registry key I rfad about
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: It's in ALL my browsers: IE, Firefox, Chrome, Opera
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: http://forums.techguy.org/web-email/1001128-browsers-not-playing-sound.html
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I'm a little unclear how I'm playing YouTube videos without Flash installed...
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: HTML5.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmm, so that explains why uninstalling Flash hasn't resolved my sound problem in the browsers
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok so i have an opinion to ask of you guys. do you think i completed my programming assignment correctly? here it is http://pastebin.com/uG9h5pRj
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: At risk of embarassing myself....fixed the sound problem by switching where my speakers plug into the sound card
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is a little confusing for me as to what the teacher wants for the assignment but i think i did it correctly
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know if on chrome its still possible to "lock" your most visited websites? you use to be able to pin them, but i think one of the updates got rid of that
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: my mush isn't saving anymore recent aliases/macros? What I can do to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you gone to file menu to save world?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it give an error when you do that?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: nops...winkle spellup script shows what skills are in noauto
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do those have to do with aliases/macros?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: when I close the mud I lost aliases, when I disconnect and connect the aliases are saved
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: idk
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: who made mapper portals?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone who uses the mapper should have
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i ment the command
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish made pretty much everything in the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i kinda have a problem with the lock
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define a problem
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the lock the actual level, not your tier...the mapper knows what tier you are already
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: my amazon nation portal is lvl locked at lv 70, when i ranto vlad it used the portal
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, because you can use level 81 items as a t3
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ahh thanks sir
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: who has knowledge of sharptracker script?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just go ahead and ask the questions :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: its giving me a runtime error each time i complete a quest
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the reason that sharptracker is giving you an error on quest complete is that the tier bonus message changed a month or two ago
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the sharptracker file, find the line match="*tells you 'I am also giving you * quest* point* tier*"
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: is there a way to configure winkle script so that i can touch on the mob during a gq?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change that line to be match="*tells you 'I am also giving you a * quest* point* tier*"
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: to?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the difference was the change from "you * quest" to "you a * quest"
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: where can I learn about scripts
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read them
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and go read the website and helpfiles for the client you use
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So I have a putty session running with some wget stuff running in it, which is using the bar-style progress indicator.  As far as I knew before, the putty session works similarly to the output coming through from the mud to a client.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Though now that I think about it, man doesn't work like I would expect that to... but anyways - how does the putty session get and give info on how long to make the bar re: window size/# of chars?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It probably uses a curses interface.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Which in turn uses ioctl system calls.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It looks like there is a dynamic bottom portion of the program, and then a static portion up top, which fills itself with the dropped-off portion of the dynamic
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hrm - Putty says it is xterm. I suppose that could be doing some behind the scenes automagic
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes :D
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The whole terminals thing is kind of magical, and gory, and usually just works, except when it doesn't 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Another question now the channel is all active :-) Is there a way to siphon off an active run of wget into a screen? I was expecting this package of ebooks to take a couple of minutes, but it seems hours is more like it :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, not unless you started screen (or tmux) before
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Don't suppose starting screen in another session could help then...
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But I think wget resumes, so you could just break it and restart.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not sure tho.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: recursive?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I can resume a partial file, but this is lots of little files
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I bet there is an option for that.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Why do you need that shell session? Just start another putty instance.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have wget running in one putty, but on a machine I usually don't leave on - I assume if the putty connection drops, the wget instance will terminate?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ah you need to disconnect.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ok, so apparently wget remains running if you close the enclosing terminal session - is this only correct for local usage?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: really?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is what Mr Google is telling me, but it seems to be based on use on the local machine
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mr Abelinc likes to argue with Mr Google.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, it actually does continue... did not know that.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, so even though the wget process shows a tty identifier, if I close the connection it will still run?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's a clever piece of software, there.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So it seems.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wish me luck :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HA! tty changed to ?, download continues in background :-) Thanks for playing the sounding board/sanity check
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I learned something new and useful too :D
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: One day... one day I am going to learn to use screen or something, and not have this keep happening :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This one time at computer science school.....
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It took me 25 years, but now I use tmux all the time.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Now, Vak, you should figure out how to code that behaviour :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ctrl-z?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: My bash script knowledge extends to 'you can use a for loop' :-) But I have a couple of books now, and as soon as I get a little more comfortable with ls instead of dir/P, I'll get cracking!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, wget is all C, I would guess.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, I've whipped up a couple of c/c++ on there with gcc/g++ and whatnot, but this shell scripting is intriguing
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Takes 10 minutes to learn, but a life time to master.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have decided VIM is never ever happening though :D
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vim is awesome
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I could never use another editor, but use whatever makes you productive, that's all that matters.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I was the same way Vakieh until I saw a video on VIM as a Python IDE.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I find the limitation on what I can produce is not my typing speed, but my translating thoughts to code speed
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I believe I've seen the same video... I went and learned how to use the thing, but modes just turn my head... and I navigate with a mouse, not arrows or hjkl
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir acks!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Kill your mouse :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How do you use a mouse to edit files on a remote server you have SSHd into? 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can copy/paste the
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pull file to IDE, edit, FTP back
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Which, BTW, is how I work all the time.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sheesh, at least use dropbox.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why don't use remote X server ?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The vast, vast majority of the time I use keyboard shortcuts to navigate that don't use the arrow system at all
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i use the google drive, let my overlords know what i'm doing
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why over complicate things? ssh into the machine and use cli apps 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because CLI is alien to my brain - I can use it enough to get by, and obviously mudding I can do so at speed, but as far as dev work goes I am a GUI IDE sort of person
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Intellisense ahoy!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why use vim in the first place then? if you like to work with a mouse notepad++ or something similar would be better
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I use my mouse with vim
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also has ftp and sftp plugins for working with remote files
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because I saw how rabid people got over it and figured I would see how it was
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use mouse in vim for copy/pasting thing from other non-ssh windows
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also you should ssh with the -X or -Y options to forward X
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use notepad++ for things like lua, where Eclipse/VS are lacking
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why would i have X installed in the first place? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm not rabid, I guess that's personal growth :D
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: People seem religious over it and EMACS
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I tried both to see what was what, I still don't get it
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think emacs is too bloated for an os
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: vim and emacs are both stupid
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people just like to fellate themselves on the internet
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Kinda like how I watched the first Twilight to see what all the fuss was about - hours I won't get back
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I always used pico/nano because it served my purposes and I thought like Fiendish. Then I realized some of the awesome stuff VIM could do and put learning it on my to do list. Nano is still my goto atm though.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nano is nice because it tells you exactly what you can do right at the bottom
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though most people don't realize that nano also has Undo, because that's hidden away 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also you have to manually configure syntax highlighting for it
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but once you have those set up it's great
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, btw, you can run vim in emacs, so it finally has a text editor
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Fiendish, can you configure custom syntax highlighting?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have a post-it on my desktop telling me to use nano when I'm not sure on transferring files, because I load up VIM on Ubuntu as a reflex and end up very confused.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: https://gitorious.org/evil
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I learned how to use vim because it seemed like a good idea to learn it. So I spent a few weeks getting comfortable with it. And now I can honestly say that it's just not really worth the effort
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: vim isn't very good at any of the things that you would want to use it for
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there a better option for CLI Python IDE?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I learned vi in the early 90s, because it was the only text editor available... and now it has change my neural paths permanently.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your problem is that you've decided to hamstring yourself by forcing a CLI 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use notepad++ locally and vim in remote machines
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they're both great
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people are always like "oh vim can be a great ide!"  No. Visual Studio is a great IDE. vim has some crappy pluggins that provide a mediocre experience
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You don't always have the option of X
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You don't always need an ide.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's 'ok' as a text editor, but it's not worth the orgasms and poetry people spew on the internet about it
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If it doesn't work for you, don't use it. 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it works for me. I use it. It's just not worth wanking philosophic about
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry, waxing
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's how I feel about IDEs.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: For me, and a lot of other people, vim is better than an ide, for the work we do. 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But I agree, it's not an ide.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If I needed an IDE, i'd probably use eclipse... and figure out how to use vim as an editor in it.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my point is that it's not magical as a text editor either
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Agreed. No magic. Just very customizable.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So if I'm looking for a CLI Python IDE your suggestions are "don't use CLI" or "don't use an IDE" ?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Don't use an IDE would be my answer.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: python doesn't need an ide
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: IDEs are only needed in languages with bad structure, like java.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's subjective and "need" isn't the issue. I want to use the code completion to help me learn and the code folding to keep me from getting lost. It's a "want" thing.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But your suggestions are noted. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Both those are text editor features, not ide features.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use them both, all the time, in vim.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Enlighten me then, what separates an IDE from a text editor if not features such as those?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Management of multiple files at the same time, e.g. for refactoring
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Building of system/project
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Generally has SCM integration and bug system integration too.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, well then I want a CLI text editor with plugins for syntax highlighting and code folding and code completion :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: anyone on?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: type online to see how many are online
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: who female to get some sex
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: wow, i didnt know tech was like curse ...
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: if it was only that simple
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i needed some assistance with the mush pc client
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I don't think that works Gruagach
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oh dear, I wish I had a camera so I could tweet a picture of Gruagach
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: give us a try
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: follow me on twitter
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never ask to ask, humbler
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it is easier just to ask the question
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i would like to modify the window that shows the health mana and moves to also have a bar for the quest timer
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's doable, but using bast's miniwindows is prbably easier
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: where do i get started?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what is your skill level?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: try finger bast and go to his site listed
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i do not know how to quantify or qualify my skill level, do you mean do i program? yes, have i used this client for a long time, no
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: do what chimeishio said and look at bast's plugins
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i just downloaded his zipped plugins, i am a bit out of my depth since i do not know where to start with customizing this client, is there a tutorial?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: so i guess there is no way to actually modify the current bar? is the script accessible in plain text?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes you can modify, and yes it's available in plain text. I don't use MC so I can't help you too much more unfortunately.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, with Bast's miniwindows, you get something which tells you the quest time
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but not in the status bar -- it will do cp time and other stuff as well
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you want to modify the status bar, you would have to change the client code -- possible, but it would be a fork and updates would be a pain.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Surely one of thegt GQ 1 minute
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Surely one of the plugins has a quest timer
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so my advice would be to use Bast's miniwindow which is close enough to what you want -- an on screen display of time till next quest
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So if you aren't picky about it being a timer or a bar, that should work.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Bast's miniwindow plugin has a quest timer as stated
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: the events minwin has a quest tracker
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I just use the timer right in my prompt
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and a double tracker:-)
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you can also put the quest timer in your prompt.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and no exp, and so on
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i didnt mean the status bar but the miniwindow that shows health bars and such
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes I know -- Bast's stuff uses a different miniwindow, but that is all
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: so modifying the current minindown isnt feasible for a quick project?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: miniwindow, rather
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: unrelated question, is there a command for reordering the opened miniwindows to their default sizes and positions?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's entirely doable -- search the source for it, but the question is will you maintain it?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: yep, think it's resetaard
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and, I think the GUI is wrong -- because as well as qtimer, you want Double, CP, maybe moons. Bast's event's miniwindow already does this
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you want to modify the source to make the health bar work, then it's doable -- but probably if you were going to do this, you wouldn't be asking "where do I start" but more specific technical questions.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: well i have never used this client before, i do not know if there is a tutorial which would make this easier, if there is a way to do it through the menus, or a shortcut
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i didnt want to reinvent the wheel
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Have you googled 'mushclient scripting' ?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: the aardwolf default client for windows, MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, you need to script that kind of facility -- and Bast has already done it. So, I would install these add-ons. They probably do most of the things that you might want. 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: where is the source for the miniwindows that open by default?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: In different plugin files I believe.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you will find most of it in lua files
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: if you are running mush, you already have those files
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: is lua a compiled language?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: its a scripting language
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: okay so i see the logic, i need to look up how gmcp works to find the quest timer status variable
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: thats prob the best way but a quick and dirty way is to put the quest timer into your prompt and write a trigger to match your prompt to get the quest timer
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: what does the info bar in mushclient do?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what you tell it to do... You can access it from scripts.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: for instance, mine keeps track of how many potions I have so I don't run out mid-fight =P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: for using GMCP stuff will i have to use callplugin for every stand alone alias / trigger?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: haven't worked much with GMCP
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i just want to do an alias to report to me maxstats, one of the GMCP tables seems like the fastest option is al
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: if you're bold you could open up the mush stat tracker and see what you can find in there =P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i looked in there and got lost before i got to the seccond line...
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im still new to coding anything :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I bet quite a few people would appreciate/donate for screencasts of some aardmush scripting tutorials.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: don't you threaten me with a good time! I'll do it! =P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto cheers and sings... he is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: You heard him, get our your tp's echo ECHO:  GQ 1 minute
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Boy I gotta fix that :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Consider it a public service for now :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: o well i have figured out alot from nick gammon's site but im still working at it :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is GMCP maxstats supposed to show maximum stats or just currently trained stats
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it's modified
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ie trained + spells + eq
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well when i tprint the table it just shows my current trained stats 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it'll show up exactly the same as what you see when you type 'rep stats'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: at least it should
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thats under stats, im talking anout maxstats
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: about*
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Oh, you mean like hp/mn/mv?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: no im looking to see if gmcp keeps a track of Maxstats as in maximum including trained + spells + eq
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's what I've been saying the whole time...
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: stats = trained, maxstats = trained + eq + spells
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hp/mn/mv is under vitals
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: then how am i getting in maxstats.maxluck 64
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or more directly: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah thats how im getting it to report out
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: what is your stats.luck? maybe i got it backwards
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: max might be trained and stats are modified
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you could check it via typing train, cheez :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: stats.luck = 124, looks like maxstats is only trained
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ok so stats == modified (trained + eq + spells) and maxstats == trained.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: strange headings to put it under then
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: guess ill have to calc maxstats manually
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: just grab them from the output of 'train'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or stats
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: not max trained... max max stats
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how do i use planes mob plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: plookup (mob name)
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: nice, does that plugin work on telnet
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gregor: MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: oh ok, I use telnet
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: got that local echo plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: is port 4000 the fastest port?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ports don't have varying speeds
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: singapore has nice fast ports
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: hehe what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no they don't, they're full of junks.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: He means, that question can't be answered, all ports are the same.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: is port 23 faster then 4000
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They are the same.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Can't say it any more simply.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It doesn't change from port-to-port.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: faster? Nope.  Slower?  Nope again.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: Portia is pretty fast too
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: its pretty fast on my BB Z10 but abit slower on bb9900
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: can you access gmcp variables through vbscript?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I know you can with lua, but can vbscript?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just use the helper files and you can write your scripts in whatever language, yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: actually, I might be wrong about that
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: you could use the gmcphandler plugin, but probably not the gmcphelper functions
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Helper file only seems to present them as lua variables
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lua > VBScript anyways :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: can someone offer me a down and dirty way to have a pure text window for noted and such?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: WITHIN the Mush clinet?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is an example in the MUSHclient forums.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You might want to look into miniwindows. They're relatively simple to make. http://www.mushclient.com/mushclient/mw_intro.htm
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you don't care if it's always visible, just hit cntr+alt+w to open MUSHclient's notepad editor
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and then ctrl+tab to switch between then
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Any miniwindows you guys recommend to people as a must have? I have Bast's plugins and I wants to feel all tech-filled.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's some interesting reading.  but it's a bit deeper than I want to get right now.  Perhaps after a while.  I just want someplace to paste a CP list from Duckbat.com
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ah. Then you want the notepad.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that sounds about right... link?  author?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ctrl+alt+w
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or edit->notepad
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Built in! Leinei just told how to open it, though
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and then ctrl+tab to switch between it and the main window
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or you can resize your world window, and have both visible at the same time, if you wanted
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that'll work....  I will look into that window making for something a bit more elegant down the road.. for the mean time, I will just tile it with the aard connection
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i tried bingin the symbol to an alias, now i have an alias with no name or symbol and i dont know how to remove it O_o
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: binding, rather
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: the 'at'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: what does the 'at' symbol do? i wasnt aware it was captured somewhere
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: @
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i cannot type it @w
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: @ is used for color coding
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: wow @
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: @R
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i am idiot, so i bound @ with a space to the alias
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: alright tech heads, I downloaded the gmcp lua file and have the gcmphelper... Can I use the file with a vbscript engine? or do I have to convert all my stuff to lua?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lua
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: so I'd have to convert everything???
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You can use the file, but you can't call the lua interfaces from the vb engine
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: pretty sure mush accepts multiple scripting languages, including my favorite, python
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or convert the helper to vb
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: While true for the most part, Humbler. This particular helper file is a pure Lua interface.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: which files are you talking about?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: the gmcphelper file found in the aardmush package
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods at Big Meaty Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: MCDIR/lua/gmcphelper.lua iirc
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: id not heard of lua until today, what uses is the language optimized for?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: is there a tutorial online?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: FB: If you do re-write the helper file in VB, i'd let fiendish and/or lasher know and they might include it for others.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Mostly for game front-end interfacing
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll look at it. If I can rewrite I may take a stab at it.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's mostly prizes because it's even more english like than python, and really lightwight.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: lightweight*
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: any tutorials online?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: lua.org/pil
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anyone know a sight where i can automatically back up a 2 to 4 gb pst file overnight?  I want it to replace the previous day one automaticAlly.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Get an external bro
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wow swiftkey mess up
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no chaz it has to be cloud for drp
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: how do you send output with lua? to world and to note?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: no lua gurus around?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I got a weird plugin error when changing eq, strangely on xbroadcast_kills - any ideas how to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Daughter went on a rampage on my keyboard. On Mushclient, at the very top of the client, it says, MUSHclient - {
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: how do you change what it says
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: try letting her walk on it again
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I know its a simple fix.. just cant quite find it.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That should be the world name.  First option in the conifiguration window
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (under IP address)
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nice, tks all
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the solution is #killall
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: gonyne3?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nynego east
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Question is.. if I cant even fix it... how can a not even 2 year old change it!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: alt+1, then {, then enter
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: probably the quickest way
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: hehe nice Leinei
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ahh nod. ya it was set as..  b v   t
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there any reason why the mapper wont let me set "home" as a bouncerecall?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you using the index shown in 'mapper portals'?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what's it telling you when you try?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you set it as a recall command?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: BOUNCERECALL FAILED: Portal #9 is not a recall portal. You must choose a mapper portal that uses either the recall or home commands for the bounce recall.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you need to tell the mapper it's a home/recall command first
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: have to use mapper portalrecall 9
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: |   9 | manorwoods | my manor   | 49653 | Home                 |   0 |
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh kk
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then try it again
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone able to help me with a *nix  problem since im freaking retarded
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: couldnt find pysdm for debian, and apparently im screwing up my fstab 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: adding /dev/md0 /raid
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but it doesnt automount
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: \n isn't a valid regex char i don't think
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: does the password still mess up when you put a @ into it?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i had a problemw ith that once, color codes get included in it
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Any Basts users around. Lost my even tracker miniwindow.. cant seem to get it back. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: event tracker*
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: CHeck his site, pretty sure details how to get it back
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: kewl
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try disable enable, or reinstall
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: tried, that.. ill try some more, maybe its more than 1. Worst case I have a backup from a few weeks ago
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: could be hiding behind another window... but I think I checked em all
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try this, mev events front, then mev events show
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: still no dice.. maybe I need a quest to pop up
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: was that the plugin command for your events window, should be the defult one
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Odd because, the spellup, moon tracker, and the window that allows you to toggle those is up. Just not the extra little quest/cp one that tells you your target.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Ohk, I'm having issues with a plugin I really, really, really like. Others find it annoying, I don't. I died, and so all of my eq was removed. I put it back on and the worn part of the plugin has not updated, and neither has the inventory part of the window.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: was it basts?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i didnt like it, didnt seem to work right
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I like it, it worked fine, I want it to work again.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try a reinstall?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: reboot client may do it to
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thanks, I'll give it a whirl
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thank you! My heroes <3
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: how do I get aardwolf to run on midpssh
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: what should I set the settings to
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: help connect
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: still no
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: session error. writer: invalid url parameter
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What are you putting where? Does it ask for a host/port ?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: Alias: aardwolf.org Host: 66.228.127.34
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Try aardmud.org in the host and if it asks for a port make sure you use 23, 4000, or 4010
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: same as before
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: well I found a how-to on midpssh and it has it set up the way you did it (with the ip in host)
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: stupid client
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: what are the other settings
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: ssh2 or ssh1 ..?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Did you select a type? Should be telnet
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: prefer: SSH1. SSHe
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: SSH2*
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Does it not list telnet?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: Terminal Type *blank*
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: http proxy *blank*
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: vt100 is probably your best bet for that
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...for the terminal type, that is
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: http proxy mode: off (ticked) persistent, transient
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...and you can connect to aardwolf via ssh, fwiw
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: We won't know whether you need to proxy...
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: shoot me, its not working
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I dunno what's wrong.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: polling I/O on, off (ticked)
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try using bbssh - midpssh seems rather old
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry, it seems only for black berry
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: Type :telnet (ticked) ssh
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: I am, I hear midpssh is better
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is this for andriod?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: midpssh is blackberry
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: blackberry
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: I'm using blackberry though ..
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: bbssh works 
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bbssh or midpssh are the only two I know of.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: sigh, I'll have to stick with bbssh, thanks though
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hmm.. I tried to identify something, but I got a plugin error on xeqdb?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: nevermind, guess it was a fluke
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Any idea why I am getting an error while trying to add eq to eq sets in Bast's plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: A whole huge spam of it?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the error message is not irrelevant
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: And my putset for putting it away doesn't quite look right (well, it doesn't work)
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: When in plugin form, if I want variables to persist I simply add a 'save_state="y"', is there an equivalent for my scripting file? (not in a plugin). Currently, whenever I make a change to the file, it'll reload and my values are gone (as expected), is there a way to circumvent that?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Mushclient, if it wasn't obvious.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glako Tech: i love mush, but i have to spend most of my time on my laptop (mac). so i use atlantis
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: tt++ and mudlet work on Mac, Glako
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mudlet is pretty similar to mush (relatively) and it's Lua just like Mush as well.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Are you storing them with Set/GetVariable()?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glako Tech: im not super computer savvy... and i had a difficult time setting up mudlet
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Script level variables, such as foo = "bar"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i thought mush works through wine on osx
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I know I can do setvariable, but then i might as well move it to a plugin file (which it's not ready for yet)
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: script level variables are not saved even in plugin files
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glako Tech: i tried the wine with the mush, it would work sometimes and others not... im not sure why
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: it does and it so beats mudlet down
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods, I know. That's again using SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I want a way to circumvent that for some debugging purposes
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: but i can't think of any short of writing to a file and reloading
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i don't know if you can import the var module, depends on if you are sending to script in your trigger or alias, and I also don't know if var works in just the world file
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but the var module in lua is just a wrapper for GetVariable/SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: What is the command to set a room as the start of an area for mapper?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i use aliases to send mapper goto roomid
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: xset mark in S&D
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: on gammon.com.au l
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: on gammon.com.au it does not list windows 8 as compatible for mushclient. Does anyone know if it works?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: no architecture change between 7 and 8. Anything that works on 7 works on 8
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: ok great, thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Noegel cheers and sings... she is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I logged in just in time to read that.  I didn't know, either
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: In mu-torrent, I have it set up that any torrent I download goes into Downloads/inc while downloading. Once it's finished I have it move it to an external hard drive in a folder called "Unsorted". I want to keep seeding these files, almost indefinitely, but once I move a file from Unsorted and rename for sorting's sake and move it to Sorted, the file will no longer seed (duh), is there a way to make the client update the location? (if i have to forgo renaming I will)
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topolova Tech: can aardwolf provide a command history list? my MUD client (tintin) is issuing some invalid command every so often. trying to figure out what it is. 
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Can't move my search and destroy because the gray move point is actually out of range of my mouse outside the client board, any ideas to bring it out?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: reload the ui maybe?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troxic Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: is there a way to prevent mushclient from displaying an empty line in the main windows when a chat line is captured in the chat window?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Mine doesn't show blank lines if I have main window echo off
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Do you have compact on, Lei?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, actually, it looks like it does show a blank line, but only for the first chat after a prompt
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But I think that's due to the mud.  It always sends a blank line for the first thing sent after you see your prompt, it looks like
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: with compact off, that is
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: with compact on it does the same thing for me. anyway, thanks for checking Leinei
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You're seeing blank lines for every single chat?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you end your prompt with a %c, you're always going to see a blank line after your prompt, even with compact on.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But otherwise, you shouldn't be seeing any blank lines
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: thanks, will look into that
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: can anyone help me with some regex. i'm trying to make a expression that only matches a single character for directions. eg. n or s or e or w. "bow" or a "sword" or "scan n" should not trigger it
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "^n$"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "^[nsew]$" would probably be better, but I am sure someone will correct me
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: (e|s|w|n|
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: will try that. i had /^[nsew]$/ but didnt seem to work
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: (e|s|w|n|u|d)+ match on 1+ any direction
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: when you say regex, where are you using this regex?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: as an alias
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: For example. my charge alias is "^c{e|s|w|n|u|d)$" will match on any dir and charge that direction
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: s/{/(
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Too drunk to type
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: im getting abit confused. so it's "^s/{/(e|s|w|n)$"?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Tell me what you're trying to accomplish, and i'll write the regexp for ya
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: im trying to make a single alias that will replace my n/s/e/w move commands
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: (n|e|s|w|u|d)+  --> run %1
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: without it executing on things like words, or scan e
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: kk will try that!
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That regexp will take a string like nneessw and will execute "run 2n2esw"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: hmmm it's executing on words as well. i typed look sword and i moved w. 
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: that's weird, did you click the 'convert to regexp' buttton?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: i didnt click the button. but the check box is ticked
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: the complete regexp should look like --> "^(n|e|s|w|
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: the complete regexp should look like --> "^(n|e|s|w|u|d|)+$"   and it should send 'run %1'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: err, ^((n|e|s|w|u|d)+)$ and should send "run %1"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: the second one seems to work!!!
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it should :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: hahahhaha okay thank you so much!!! i'll look up those symbols in regex and try to figue out how your expression works
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Cheez is the Regex master when not intoxicated =P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm intoxicated right now :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Extemely so, in fact
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: hahhaha on what?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I don't really care.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: A mixture of things :P_
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm. Why not use [neswud] instead of an extra capturing group?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I do it so I can do logic on it, such as "if '%1' ~= 'news'"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ^([neswud]+)$ still allows you to do that, no?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, it does.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm just old-school, what can i say :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what are you deriving your directions from?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ask me when I'm sober and can acurateely answer :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: wow, my spelling
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: to answer the original query, don't forget to use the word-boundary wildcards
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: There's no need. The regex i supplied will work for now. Granted there's more effecient ways, but the regexp i supplied will work without fail
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm just too damn drunk to fomulate the regexp properly :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's true, but what if he was wanting to do this on a speedwalk?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The way i read it, he wanted to type something like "neeswwdun" and have it send "run neeswwdun"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I think all he wanted was 'n' or 'e', etc
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: My regexp would work in that case too
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: cheez got it right. it works like a charm. just trying to figure out why that alias isn't calling up my lua function
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you provide more info, i could likely solve that for you too :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: hahah :D okay, but let me try to solve it first. don't want to trouble everyone on simple stuff
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Hehe, have fun. :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Once you learn regexp, you'll never regret it :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Until you have to learn the differences between all the other formats of regexp...
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: truth :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: By Tru :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: bah i solved it but its a really basic level.. i have no idea of how to do a complete function. i was trying to create an auto door opening alias + lua function + trigger
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: it works fine now but only if i move 1 direction at a time. if its a run 2n3e whatever multi direction, it's going to go crazy cos i save the "line" parameter as a world varaible and pass it to the trigger to open the door
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: anyway! thanks so much everyone, at least i managed half the problem :D
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Can I have triggers based on what I type?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You mean aliases?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: yes and no.  I want to play a sound when I recall, but the recall command doesn't create any text for my trigger.  I could do a client-side alias for recall, but it would not be an elegant solution
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: sounds fairly simple to set up
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: It is simple to do, except if I type type recall exactly (eg i do "reca"), then I need two aliases
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: is it possible to reference an alias from an alias? eg. alias1 does "run 2n
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: and uses another alias
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes, set aliase, sendto execute
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: so if the second alias is called tele. what would i put in the original alias?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: set tele, sendto execute?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: 1 sec, the second alias triggers on tele?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: yes, the second alias triggers on "tele"
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: you would set the first alias, sento execute, and get it to send tele to trigger the seccond alias i beleive
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I'm making triggers to associate some actions with sounds from my first MMO of yesteryear :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: sorry remarto i dont believe i understand. im making a client side alias. so the command to use the nested alias is? sendto tele? doesnt work though. do you know where i can read up on a possible solution online?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i learned from http://www.gammon.com.au/forum, i think it has a tutorial on basic triggers and alias's
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: okay thanks! :D
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: i've been searching for an hour now and it seems like its possible to do nested alias. but they all involve scripting, is there a way to do a nested client side alias?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Which client?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: he is using mush i think
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And what is it exactly you're trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: mushclient for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: trying to get an alias to trigger another alias
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure, you can do that.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Change the "Send To" drop down box to "Execute"
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah im no good at explaining it and i prob confused him
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: oooh holy cow that was simple hahah. thanks metria and remarto! yea i didnt understand what u were saying remarto, i kept tying send to(Excecute) variations of it
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i did say Send to, not send box
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Woot, glad you got it working :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: phew... that was a good hour of searching. glad i got it to work
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: with you guys help of course! :D
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: Im having trouble reinstalling a plugin. It stopped working and I tried reinstalling it which didnt work. So I removed it altogether and now when I try to add it again I get this message: [WARNING] C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\bast_spellup.xml
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: Line   13: The plugin 'bast_spellup' is already loaded. (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: anyone have any idea what Im doing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Can you have triggers play a soundfile with a relative path?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: at least on MUSH
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Awesome :).  Just has to be in the xml as opposed to gui I suppose?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: bottom-right of the gui
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Leinei I only see a place where I can use the gui to select a file (not just the relative part of the file).
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: is there a reason why my map shows all of aardwolf instead of the area map?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Are you on a continent?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: yeah it says continent of mesolar
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If so, if you don't like that view, type 'bigmap off'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: k i figured it out sorry thanks though
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: im just dumb LOL
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what format is the aardwolf DB file?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: im still having problems with that map i use mush client and its showing the continent instead of the area map
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: in the miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And 'bigmap off' didn't work for you?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: no that doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: its that mini window that shows u the area map it usually only shows all of aardwolf when you run somewhere if im correct
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: is there a script that shows the areas of mobs in a room gq?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: prolly not public
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: there shouldnt be
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: people have mob DBs prolly the most powerful
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: can type, mapper list <room name>, to bring up matchs and their areas
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ahh thanks doink :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: not as fast as a script, but good in a jam :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: got me a few wins :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: alias, mapper list *, to ml, same with, mapper area *
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: anyone using l33tsell plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: having an issue
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: winkle sound plugin how do i shut some channel sounds up?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone around familiar with bash scripting/linux in general? Have a pastebin of something I'm trying to get working, but a little stuck
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: post the url i'll take a look 
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://pastebin.com/4dYNCSbZ
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm pretty terrible a this kind of stuff.. new area for me
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: problem i had that seems the big one.... The drive actually nukes itself if its run on a system without another drive in it. Near as I can tell, anyway. Trying to run it from a bootable USB
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm rather out of my depth - so a lot of it is stitched together bits of googled info/experimentation.. but given its only purpose is to wipe drives/capture info... I feel confident I won't break anything =p
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You cannot assume /dev/sda is any specific drive. It's just the first one identified.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, learned that the hard way after it nuked my drive =p Was just a ubuntu bootable disk, so no loss
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But not too sure what to do about it. Could logic to check for minimum size.. but don't know how else to limit it to a specific sata drive only
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or all sata drives, anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: worst of it nuking itself is it lost the current file it had the info for
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: ok thats pretty intense but ...
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: intense?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: you are always referring to /dev/sda hope thats the one you want
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's a pet project, currently. Mostly just to try and learn some linux/scripting stuff.. not like I;ve lost much
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: yes - its hard to read :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, ideally it'd wipe all the drives in the system, but not usb devices
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd first thought /dev/sda would be the first sata device in the system.. didn't realize it would mount my usb as sda if there was no physical drive
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: its depends whats mounted as /dev/sda - that could vary between boots - if you boot off usb probably the usb
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is there a better way to refer to drives by connection some how?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: 'man mount' might help - there should also be a UUID I would think 'mount' would be best
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: you will get a list of drives mounted and there mount points that way
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: hope thats some help
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah.. problem is otherwise theres no need to mount the drive
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Mount only works in a mounted system.... which it won't be if you boot from usb.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Looking more to delete all partitions on a physical device, is really the goal
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You could check dmesg, and then use e.g. size to filter out your usb drive.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That being said the info displayed by mount by itself is useful. I've only ever poked it to mount drives 
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: -tech maybe pvscan ? or vgscan
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: pvscan and vgscan both show no volumes.. maybe im not understanding their usage
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and dmesg seems like quite a bit to sort through
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: parse lsscsi to get drives, it will show the manufactory and where the device is
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: manufacturer
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: installing lsscsi
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Looks like that might be the ticket. SDA shows up as "ATA" .. will that be universally true of ATA drives as well as sata? Or is that just because ata emulation is set in the bios
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't know, haven't really tested it, I just use it for a quick read on what is connected to a system
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm. I'll have to check that one out. Thanks for the tip on lsscsi. Seems to be pretty easy to parse as well
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lsscsi -t seems to be what I'm looking for. Shows sata / ata / usb. -t "transport" option
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sudo lsscsi -t | grep sata: | awk '{print $4}' <-- returns a list of sata devices. Near as I can tell
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, thanks again for all the help =) Think I can work with that for now, just need to figure out what to do with it. Shift starting here in a minute so have to run
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: for disk in `your search` maybe :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod.. for loop... for each disk, wipe, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: yes - a loop is better than a big long pipe for this i think - good luck
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks raintdayas =)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I want to right a program witha wink function and a nod function that both do the same thing, just so that I can say, "a wink's as good as a nod" in reference to it.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: not entirely sure why that belongs on this channel.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: write an emote function : emote ("wink"), emote("nod") :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: any Lua-savvy techies on?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Anyone familiar with coding miniwins?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: is it possible to use compression in bbssh ?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: can anyone help me my area map mini window is stuck on the map of the continent and it wont show me the map of the area im in
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Did you try scrolling down in that window?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: uhmm you cant scroll in it
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or quit and restart mush
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Press ctrl+shift+p and look for Mapper, and click reload
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: its been stuck on the bigmap for a few days
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: ive logged in multiple times
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and map and look does nothing?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are your tags on?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: i just reloaded it it was the wrong miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: the miniwindow with the directions is good its the other miniwindow i coulda swore it showed me the rooms i had discovered
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: and i could put my mouse over it and it would show me the name of the room
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean the mapper window
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: yes thats right sorry i dont know what its called
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I knew what he/she was talking about.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bigmap is only on Mapper.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: well..bigmap...might be its own plugin ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: yeah like it worked before and i could see the names of the rooms but now its only all of aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just remove bigmap, it's useless.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: real mapper might be under it
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: even when i type bigmap off it still shows the whole aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: i looked under it isnt ther
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bigmap is game command
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-shift-p -> bigmap -> disable
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: that still didnt work :(
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: actually bigmap off is plugin command also. so long since I removed it :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: this has seriously been bugging me i want my area map back it helped a lot :(
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: try to reload mapper plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if you didnt already
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: yeah i reinstalled mapper but its the wrong miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: make sure you didn't reinstall the wrong plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't mush come with two mappers?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: ok i got it OMG THANK YOU
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bigmap and mapper :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: it was the 2nd mapper plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: thank you so much
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is Bigmap Graphical and GMCP Mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: yeah it was GMCP
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sorry, Ascii Mapper and GMCP Mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ascii Mapper is the little map and GMCP Mapper is the map with Area Maps.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and bigmap handles continents
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Does anyone know the command Winkle's extender plugin sends on connect? I'm asking this because some odd things show up, such as an area called "Lua Land" which is unlisted in 'areas'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: area 0 0
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... Area 0 0 doesn't do exactly that, but just 'area 0' does. Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Heh.. some very odd areas in there :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all the manor areas, as well as placeholders like Midgaard and behind-the-scenes containers (ie, lua land).
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topolova Tech: anyone using tintin with the aardwolf script? keeps sending '$repchan' to the MUD undefined. didn't do this initially.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topolova Tech: anyone using tintin with the aardwolf script? keeps sending '$repchan' to the MUD undefined. didn't do this initially.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topolova Tech: blah, sorry. if I hit enter, it re-sends the last command.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have any suggestions on how to fill a google spreadsheet from the command line? Either through creating a form, or directly entering in the information
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: in a bash script, rather.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: https://developers.google.com/google-apps/spreadsheets/
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Closest I can find
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: only has java/.net examples unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Most sensical thing I can find personally, is using the forms, and using something to post to it via http... but... all the examples i see for that are php/java/python as well
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, you could pass it with curl
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: isn't curl part of python?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: there's a unix/linux curl
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah. My mistake
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon groans loudly.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_curl.htm
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran peers intently at Oladon.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: There's not "a" unix curl. curl is a GNU utility, and there's "a" curl lib for Python.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Semantics :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I knew what I meant :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: point being - its something I can use from a bash script. =p
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which is really the part I care about. Though the distinction is not lost on me, either.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what command is it to change a channels color?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: colorset
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: help colorset
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: no problem :D
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how do i access the wildcard in my alias if ive got it set to "Send to Script"?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anybody own a tesla car?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm thinking about buying one, but on the fence about the range
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: which model?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: S..
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: its not all that differnt than most cars... how many miles do you get on a tank of gas?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Any miniwin experts on?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto points, indicating Bast.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: good call remarto... must not have tech on =P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: how can i delete a file that is "waiting to be burned to disc"
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: deleting it it just reappears instantly
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: remove temporary files says i need admin access...i'm on an admin account
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and then fails when i say yes
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: can anyone help me with the syntax to use a wildcard match in a Trigger? eg. This (.+) is evil. How do i access the wildcard match and do maybe... consider "wildcard"
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: %1
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think (.*?) is the greedy version
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: oh snap! yea! forgot that one! thanks!. whats the difference in (.+) and that?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: id have to look, but i just use (.*?) :P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: is there a comment syntax that can be used in mushclient alias's? like -- for lua.. // for others
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not unless you send to script
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then it just depends on what scripting language you're using
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: okay cool thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lua i beleive its --
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: okay one last question. is there a way to catch a sentence with a trigger and remove it from being echo'ed or seen?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: eg. Clouds start to form in the sky. can i catch it and make it not appear?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: using mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: put it in a trigger line
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: match it with a trigger, check the "omit from output" tickbox
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: wow that was easy :D LOL
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: thanks so much guys
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: now down the side
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: tick the omit from output box
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: please, in other mud-client i use one varieble simply with ar-name... but in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: ATvar-name... but in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @varname
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the "expand variables" checkbox
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: i have made... glass=carafe and drink ATglass
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: ah pardon i go to see
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: thank you, so work perfecly
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: perfectly
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, you can send a @ by typing @@
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fail
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: whats the command touse planes script?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: to use*
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: plookup
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which script?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: bast
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: im useless in lua etc, if i wanted to alias it to pl what do i do?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's page on the script tells you the commands, always
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aliasing has nothing to do with lua
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> aliases, new, pl *, plookup %1, send to execute
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: well all that i know is how to cp fast
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ahh so thats what i did wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the planesmobs plugin is broken in the latest version, it will be fixed in the next release.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: thanks sir :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i dont have a problem tho bast
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you're probably not at the latest version ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: Aardwolf_Planes_Mobs v1874 phelp Planes Mobs
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, it is broken for some people then, if you aren't having problems then yours isn't broken
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: a novel concept 
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: a novel concept ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: one of these days i'll get used to having to ;
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: one of these days i'll get used to having to ;; the ;
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: i really want to draw a nic cage meme in ascii for statements like that
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nopk
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: i dont pk >.>
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: why does my speakers make a slight noise?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: pc speakers
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: intereference probably
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: nope cant be been doing this for a while
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: did you listen to something that might have distorted the speakers? blown them?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: whenever you have an unshielded closed loop close to a source of changing magnetic field, it generates electricity, which is then magnified and reproduced by the speakers as possible hum or clicking
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: as speakers get old or mistreated, either the speaker itself, the wire it is connected to, or the socket (usually on the mobo) the wire is then plugged into gets damaged or loose.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: could be damages but it looks fine
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Loose you can fix - pull it all apart, clean and reseat. Damaged and you are SOL, need to buy new ones. Looks fine means jack
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: and no they still work
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: usually if theres a hum or a stattic you distorted the speakers once before and possibly cracked the bell. 
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: for computer speakers a frayed cable is far more likely, unless they are internals
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: if you have chaos portals which are not golden, is there a way of temporary disabling them in mush so they aren't used by mapper during GQs?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: apart from removing them and re-adding them after that is
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I would like to no the answer to that question too
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: you could create a really big alias.?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: would be useful if the non-golden cps were set to level 999 or something when GQ started.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: You'd still be unable to use them.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Switch the fail message, that's all that would accomplish...
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I believe he means set to 999 in the mapper, not the mud
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: guess a level setting alias is the best way then, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: OK, but what would the practical difference be? Does the mapper actually not bother to try the CPs then?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at [Deputy] Trurien.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That is useful.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: in which case it would indeed work. I don't believe there is a way to do that natively, but it is simple enough to jack into the sql, use a prefix on the alias such as nongolden, etc and batch update
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just left my cp's out of the mapper.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The mapper will not attempt to use a portal if you are not at the appropriate level + tier*10
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Otherwise you would be trying to use all your portals at level 1
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't need to do it in the SQL, could do it with a mapper alias
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: update a variable with the portal ID of nongolden CPs, and have the mapper alias recurse through the list
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite jumps high into the air shouting out, "WOOHOO!"
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: figured out my miniwin prob!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: now I'm sortof a miniwin guru =P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Write some documentation and share it :P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I modified some code from Nick Gammon's old quest tracker... this was before I knew who bast was =P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Heh :P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all my miniwins started with Fiendish's stuff, so they adhere to his front/back/hide/etc schemes
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: soon he'll have a generic miniwin template included, to make that easier
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: LOL, funny you should say that... Fiendish's plugin was my issue :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Anyone have any useful scripts for mudding with a light-gun?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at GraySong Gregor.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: would be nice of fendish to release a miniwin template :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, board tech, note subject bounty
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: spent a hour trying to get it to work.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my plugins can be pretty close to a template, but I didn't include scrolling or copypasta features, so aren't good for log-type stuff, but fine for general displays
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I might be interested for that price =P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone's already claimed the prize, just finishing up
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite sulks in the corner.  Baby!!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: way to get my hopes up!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, if I were still at my old job I definitely woulda done it for that price (despite not actually needing TPs :P)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite smirks at your saying. 
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: between zmud and mush whats the best
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: aard mush
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: the only thing i like about Zmud is the split scroll output. 
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: zmud is not free, is it?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: here, free LEGAL zmud from zuggsoft: http://www.zuggsoft.com/index.php?page=4&action=file&file_id=18
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: is it that old like 3.5 version still?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: Hello, can I ask a question here about aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: seems like an appropriate place :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: What's your question?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: I would like the maps in main screen not to show and just have the room maps in the map window."
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: help automap sounds about right
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite tosses Mliaa up in the air, she loves it!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: laughs
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: if your using aard mush it should autmatically parse the map into a miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: the map in window does not show the little squares
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: try tags map
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: then type map to see if it worked.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: the map in window still shows map of continent of Lesolar
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: Mesolar
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: may be a silly question... but are you on the continent?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: usually when I go into an area, the window map shows the little squares that I can click on to move to.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You have to be in an area :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: I am in newbie academy now
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: It still shows big map
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you have to explore the room before it shows on your map.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: I did that. Maybe I will log out and back in, maybe I did something
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: shutdown client then reopen, that may fix it.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: Yes, that did fix it.  Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite tosses Mliaa up in the air, she loves it!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: laughs
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: can someone suggest a good 'auto-open' mushclient script for closed doors?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: why not use the mapper utility?  cexits
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 'mapper cexit op w;;w'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: will give mapper a go, thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: fml, I died and 2.bag needs to become 7.bag of 7, the rest are in correct order
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what is the pattern to sort that
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: drop them all, then pick them up in the right order
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: You can give items to yourself to re-order them
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien nods at Getsuko.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: or that. which I did not know.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes what is the pattern for giving them to myself
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: (You don't have to drop)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: or just give 2.bag gregor
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icecool Tech: why use 6.bag/7.bag/etc when you can use the ID number?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: give 2.bag gregor will send it to the front
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: restring them and use the new keywords, or use the id #s
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I need to send it to the back
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: "give blah self"
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: you can't send to the back, you have to give all the ones in the front.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or just get use to the order the containers are in.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: need to give everyone you want on top of it, to yourself.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: then give yourself the last bag, the bag before last, and so on
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: or stop using x.bag and use the id
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: exactly, what is the pattern for that
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: 7 times
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: assuming 2.bag needs to become 7.bag
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: start with 2.bag (because if you move it 7 times, it wil become the last
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: surely I need to finish with that
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Oh wait, that's right
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: so give 2.bag greg, then do give 6.bag greg 7 times
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: why not add keywords to your bags... silly head :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: instead of wasting the time to give yourself bags in a certain order :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Or just repeat drop 3.bag 5 times, drop bag, then get all :P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: because it costs tp and because you can still manage it if you give it some thought
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien nods at Fatal FrostBite.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Uhm, ok that didn't work dfury
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yes, but it's not very expensive. TP is easy to get if you quest regularly.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: draw it on a piece of paper, it will make sense better if you try to solve it visually
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I see a bag ordering plugin in your future =P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah ok, was just wondering if there was some autistic kid about that could just visualise the pattern immediately
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien snorts derisively at GraySong Gregor.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well normally this does not happen, it's just that I died and couldn't lift all the bags
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: normally it picks them up in the right order
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: don't die :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I typed runto vidblain and ended up in christmas vacation
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Hahaha, how'd that happen???
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: little did I know that would be the next half an hour of my life gone trying to solve some bag re-ordering puzzle
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: fml
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien comforts GraySong Gregor.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Also, remember not to move out of the room before the Cheryb Sitter can transfer you. Another 25,000 gold lesson :P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ok i got a piece of paper now... what is the order your bags are in?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I got a piece of paper too, I'm not sure what order they are in yet
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I guess I'll figure it out now, I was hoping for a quick fix, but I'm resigned to my fate now
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Mm.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: you poor thing!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: bag reordering script would be quite easy to make using your bag serial #'s
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Nods, you should probably remember the bag ids in brackets and alias them or something.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: you are right, that didn't occur to me. I guess I will have that for future.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Would be a cheap alternative to adding keywords.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: gregor do you use mushclient with my plugins?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm not sure, which plugin did you write
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i wrote the entire bastmush suite, so that would be a no
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: just write a single alias where if you gave yourself a bag and it puts it upfront, you alias wold look something like this give <self> (bag7serial), give <self> (bag6serial), and so on...
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a plugin called eqDB that you can use and add identifiers to equipment without paying tp
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: sounds excellent
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: there you go, bast solved it
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: think my bags are sorted now
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: kindly forward your freed up tps to him, he deserved it
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: when you load eqdb, just type "eqdb help" to show uses
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thanks, I will check it out
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: but bast, i'm a dinosaur, i use zmud 7.04!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: wow, you are way behind the curve then
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I am creating a simple portal alias to use with WinkleWinke's scripts. If the name of the alias is portal_glam, any idea why "portal_glam take 358019761 859443103" is being placed on the same line and causing this command to not work?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: based on the info provided there's an incorrect variable reference going on.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: 358019761 = glam portal ID,  859443103 = my aard bag ID... not sure what I'm doing wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: most likely the kind centered around you thinking a different piece of information is in said variable
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EdgarStyles Tech: In Mush, how come if I use \\\SetVariable("dual","xx") in the command line it works fine, but if I make an alias for it an send to execute, it will try to send \SetVariable("dual","xx") and fail?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Hm, not sure
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: use send to script
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EdgarStyles Tech: compile error, unexpected symbol near \
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and  you wont need the \\\
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EdgarStyles Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: that prefix is so you can use script commands from the command line
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EdgarStyles Tech: there it goes, thanks a lot
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EdgarStyles Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: \ is the escape character, so if you wanted to do it sending to execute you'd need to use 6 backslashes instead of 3
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: By some odd off-chance, anyone here have a kindle fire they flashed to run Android?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: i've only seen that one time :) buddy at school did it and said that it destroys battery life.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how stable are mapper portal index numbers? i.e. if I "mapper portals" lists index 1,2,3,4 and I "mapper delete portal #2", will "mapper portals" 1,2,3 or will it list 1,3,4?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: anyone help please
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not without a question
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: hahahha thats quite funny :D
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Miss Cleo can help
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: when i wanted to log on my user account it says i cant log in because theres an error, tried it 3times this morning
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What user account?  On Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: windows
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: detail the system cannot find the file specified
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: it worked perfectly yesterday
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it say what file?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: doesnt say what file
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is is the only administrator account?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see if a different user has trouble logging in as well...if the other user has a problem, then it's systemwide, if not then it's just a profile issue and you can create a new account and copy stuff over
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i made a new user and yes...shows same prob
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the old and the new user have the problem, but the account you used in order to make the new user doesn't have a problem?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: well windows logged me into another account, dunt know what this account is
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: also i cant see any of my files anywhere
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the files would be in the other user's profile
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: cant log in there, dont see anything :(
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: not a single file in sight
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: well i searched look around, nothing, making a new account doesnt help shows the same...
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: guess i have to use a windows cd to repair?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: my computers (vista) does this a lot randomly. Both of them. I usually just reboot until it works.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: no idea why.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: reboot whole time?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how long it takes?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sometimes I shut it down, pull the plug, wait a minute, boot it back up, and cross my fingers.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sounds like hard disk starting to suck
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ...it logged into a guest account
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: is there any way to delay a trigger? eg it cant execute more then once in 5 seconds?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Wow, I was about to ask that question as well
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i beleive there is a wait function in the lua files
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but from what your asking , combining with a timer may be the way to go
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I will have to check that out, thank you Remarto
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anybody here use pastbin? i could use some help
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anybody? wil pay for help
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ahh the silient channel
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: dont even know why its here if it isnt much of help to me
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ask the question or gtfo
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no-one will answer your roll call if you don't tell us what the problem is
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: sabertooth did ask a question
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no he didn't
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i did actualy :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: he asked if anyone used pastebin. lots of people do, so what?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its my first time useing it and i cant get it to paste my file in the big box lol
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you mean? you selected text, copied it and now it won't paste?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i have it selected copied it but rght click on the box no paste option :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, you don't paste files into text input field
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok how do i get a xml document in there then? help wil be great :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that means the clipboard doesn't have any text copied so you're doing something wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, you open the file with a text editor, copy the text and paste it there
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: let me try sec
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, kids, lesson learned here - if you want help, just ask the damn question ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: seems to have worked now thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: valuable lesson learned, text fields do not accept files :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: another thing how do i get the link to the file i just pasted?...sorry first time :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the url is in the address bar
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: For those using MUSH, when you use mapper purge cexits, does it delete ALL cexits on your database or just the area you're in
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mapper help exits says ALL custom exits
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: That's what I read too yeah, just annoying cause I made a cexit in a room that I now have no access to =/
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Can't find a way to delete it unless I'm in the room
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why do you care?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: can't click on it?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: It's the room where the Empyrean guard throws you if you're not wearing a tunic
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so why does it matter if there's a cexit there
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Because, depending on the room I wanna go to in the area, my mapper uses this cexit as the fastest way to get there
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Like the market part in Empyrean for example
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then you should be deleting the link /to/ the room 
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not the cexit if you can't get to the room in the first place
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Is there a helpfile I can read on for that?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mapper help has everything
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: I see a way to purge room, purge cexit from a room but it kind needs me to be in the room
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: kinda*
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know of a good auto-clicker?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: your index finger. 
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cat on the keyboard!
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: roboform ? :p
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Whenever I move something in my inventory, I get the message Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.   ?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Any thoughts on to how to fix?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: how do i change an entire line's color using a trigger? I have "You balblah (+.?)" and i've checked repeat on same line and changed a colour. only the You balblah appears 
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what is the likelihood that a monitor standing on top of a guitar amp will interfere with the amp
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: amp has magnetism maybe?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: magnets are bad for screens
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I haven't tried it yet, just asing if it's likely
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: i know putting a speaker and screen together is a bad idea
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: any reason?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: the magnent on the speaker will wreck the screen
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: slowly... but surely.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: this monitor has been on top of an amp for 2 years now. I just haven't used this particular amp.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so how do tvs work? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: haven't noticed any negative effects, it's a really old monitor though
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: amp has a thick case so maybe magnet force cannot reach the screen
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if it's well shielded there's no problem.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Might not be so much in an amp anyways.. compared to a speaker.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if it's not... oh well
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: one more question......
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: if a loud amp was directly facing a wall, would that have negative effects on the health of the amplifier or cause interference?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the amp doesn't have standing magnet, really just electromagnetic while powered...speaker has standing magnet pulling all the time...
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a loud amp facing a wall?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: amps don't really face anywhere
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: in terms of physics would that constitute a problem
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what "hypothetical" physical-substance shields out static magnetic lines of force from a speaker - doubt there are any, other than sufficient distance
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, are we talking about a speaker-amp (like peavey backstage) or a power unit?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: but amps facing walls is how a deaf guy jams   :p
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: we are talking about a 50 watt guitar amp, one that faces in a particular direction
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an amp with a speaker...
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're two separate devices in a single box...the amp doesn't face
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: speaker doesn't care where it faces, though
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: shrug, guitarists refer to this piece of equipment as a guitar amplifier
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than tuning your sound
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: from my non-technical viewpoint an amp is just a large speaker with a guitar jack
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: is there a reason why underwater breating is not included in the spellup command ?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Aluminum shielding may perhaps "shield" or reduce dynamic magnetic changes but not a static magnetic field
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bluebeetle: you're a triton
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I wasn't sure if having a very loud amplifier directly facing a wall might cause interference or feedback, or some kind of constructive interference loop
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: meh
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't impact anything other than quality/timing of the sound
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can help to do that to keep it from directly facing pickups/mics
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: so unlikely to damage equipment
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: won't do anything at all to the equipment
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ok great, thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the speaker/amp doesn't know where the wall is
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Just have to make sure the amp has some breathing room so it doesnt overheat^^
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and sound waves from the bounceback don't damage anything...it'd be like facing two speakers toward each other
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: true, the wall is a hard surface though and must echo the majority of that sound straight back at the amp though at such short distance
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: never tried facing two speakers directly at each other either, but now that I know it's safe........
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sound waves aren't electromagnetic, and are an extremely tiny force pushing
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Often sounds better to bounce a subwoofer of a wall or surface
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Something with the sound waves traveling longer before they reach your ear.... beyond me. Tinkered with car stereos for a while though.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: screen starts flickering in an eerie way when I turn amp on, I wonder if that's the electromagnet
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that's the part that's bad for the screen
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: probs stupid question but, even when monitor is switched off it will cause damage?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Ok, gonna need to seriously revamp my whole setup.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I remember when TV's were wide enough to sit stuff on top of... people would buy a huge one, then place large center speaker on it... year later the center of the screen would be pulled up a foot
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: how long would it take to cause my monitor serious damage? Do you think it'd be ok after a half hour amp test run?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Must be getting old... the little cube of a TV I use to play my Atari on.... lol
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: Astroids FTW
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: swear it was deeper than the screen was wide/high
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be OK for that long, as long as it's only looking a little wonky...if it looks like it's royally changing the screen, I wouldn't continue
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Missile Defender!
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, bottom inch of screen flickers eerily, that's it
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean missile command
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: this monitor must be worth about 5USD anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I only use retro equipment for playing aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: missile command had the bases at the bottom with the ICBMs falling onto them, while defender was a side-scroller
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I dunno, most places charge you to recycle old monitors, might be worth negative :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: hehe yeah, maybe I'm over-valueing my stuff
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well, it's worth at least 5 USD to me anyway!
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Staples takes damn near any electronics for free...monitors, UPS batteries, CPUs, etc
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: really? do you have to buy anything?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how old, though?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: nice, time to load up the car :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I walked into there with a couple APC RB7 batteries & walked out a few mins later
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.staples.com/sbd/cre/marketing/easy-on-the-planet/recycling-and-eco-services.html
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is there some way i can change the colors used by the imm channel? that dark red on black is hard to read
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: help colorset
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Can someone give me a quick and dirty example of how to query Aardwolf.db (mapper's database) to get all rooms that EXACTLY contain some text? Or point me to somewhere I can learn how to?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: (MUSHclient, ofc)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: xmall <roomname>
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: soz you wanted exact
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: SELECT * from room where name = 'valueiwant';
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: rooms*
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'll try that, Cheez. I didn't think it would be that simple because I was looking at the SQL statements in winkle's extender (only plugin I know of that queries the db)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Besides the mapper, you mean? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just use a SQl browser to open the .db and check the tables, then finding the query's simple
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I actually tried that, but it didn't work. I'm using http://sourceforge.net/projects/sqlitebrowser/?source=dlp
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: look at the "mapper find" command, because Fiendish makes it exact if you use double quotes around the argument
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hey, that's neat! Thanks Bast :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I use http://www.razorsql.com/
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I only get about 20Kbps dl speed on my phone (updating through Play Store), over wi-fi...is that a function of having a slow-processor phone?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone have any idea why my front usb ports might have stopped working?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: this is the second time it's happened now, last time a reboot fixed it, haven't tried that yet now...
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: water getting in there, corrosion
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: loose connection
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's not corroded :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: rebooting wouldn't fix it if it was a loose connection
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: a bug
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dardezael Tech: i'm going with power profile
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone have any useful suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod, i think it's a power problem, cause the light on my headset doesn't turn on... but i don't know what i can do about that
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dardezael Tech: not a problem - it's just being shut off.  the profile dictates when that happens
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the only usb-related setting i see in power options is usb selective suspend setting, and that's disabled
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dardezael Tech: for now, don't tweak just turn every setting you can find to on and see if you can get it on.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dardezael Tech: so to speak
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't see any other usb-related ones...
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dardezael Tech: I'm confused.  I'm not seeing sh messages.  I don't thnk I have it gagged...
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: wchar_t or TCHAR, dicuss.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: discuss* even.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: foo
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: bar
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Why do people #define multiple lines in C++?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Because one row would make it cluttered? :)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Isn't there a better way to do something like that, like an inline function or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Or even write a separate function and then #define a call to that function...
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Eh, I guess it's a matter of preference.. I never used #define's to make functions myself, since like you said. You can just make a function :)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: But if someone makes a very long define, I'm all for several lines with less clutter over one cluttered and obfuscated one
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do I 'reset' windows internet explorer to factory new?  I just uninstalled some toolbar/adware crap that my kids let sneak on, and IE explorer is sort of dead now.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it comes up, but nothing is "clickable"
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming you're running a legit version of windows, I believe you can just uninstall it completely and download the newest version using windows update, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well... some of the setting buttons work, but 'internet options' is greyed out
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: will try that
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not seeing it in the 'add/remove programs' list.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: look at 'installed updates' part
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how 'bout that... uninstalled SliverlightŪ, and it works ok now
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and iexplore was under the updates part.. shouldn't have to mess with it now, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hijack this can remove BHO's
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: How many times does it take you guys do something repetive where you go screw it and go alias/trigger time!
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: twice
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a half
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: wheni get bored
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Swalec ahh Remarto has the same answer as me
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: more seriously, it depends on the amount of effort it will be to alias
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I mean not all aliases have the same cost, and not all repetition had the same annoyance
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: for instance, I wrote a plugin to traverse mazes
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: nifty what was the basic premise of the maze traversal?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: this was quite a lot of effort to do, and required a fair bit of experimentation, but mazes were a real pain in the ass
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: random walk till you get to the end -- I thought about other alternatives, but this was quickest
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I was thinking that, what made you choose to keep it as a plugin versus just having alias and triggers set up? 
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Nevermind, its late
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: running a tad slow
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mazewalkers are illegal btw
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: talk about being a downner Redryin :P
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: coding just for coding sakes to say you've done it is fun too
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atle Tech: can someone send me a tell explaining how to do custom exits in the aardmush mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper cexit (action)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: here is a nice page on using the mapper: http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: any particular reason I would use Lua in mushclient if I already know Python?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: because lua is built in and it requires no extra steps to get working
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my internet is very 'choppy' today (and other days).  3 sec good - 2 sec dead - 5 sec good - 1 sec dead - 1 sec good - 4 sec dead - etc... what's the likely culprit?  N-wireless router with 1.5M DSL connection.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: step 1: hardwire in to take the wifi out of the equation
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: a sound recommendtation, but I have one wired computer that is behaving similarily
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll tell you whether the issue is at (or past) the DSL or a radio interference issue
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: though the wired computer does seem to fair somewhat better... I'm 10 miles outside town with only two neighbors within a mile of me.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: How are you testing? Just by "feel" or from ping results?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have a wireless phone that is on a completly different frequency to minimize interference.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DSL is a dedicate connection (TDM), so others nearby won't have an impact, unlike cable
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: pretty much by feel for comparing the wired vs wireless... I havn't done any speed tests to check the rest of the connection... what's a good on?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: when ever I go looking for an online test, they always wanna sell me something.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Others can speak to how "good" it really is but I always default to ping. Start-Run-"cmd" then "ping -n 100 google.com"
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Minimum = 63ms, Maximum = 1649ms, Average = 784ms...  after 2 minutes... it was ALL OVER the place... 8 timeouts.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And on the wired computer?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: restart modem and router
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not quite as big a spread... no cut and paste, but fastest was 88ms, longest was 1306ms. 599 average  - 3 timeouts
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: router/modem have been reset a couple times... fixes other issues I run into, but not this one.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: get Axence nettools and use its traceroute to check where are problems
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: will look into that now
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: At this point I usually call provider and whine.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how does that work out for you?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i like when i call the isp and tell them what to do and they still instist i pretend to reset everything
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still it can be one of next hops - with nettools he will be able to check what hop causes problems
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: DL time estimate is bouncing between 20 minutes, and 4-5 hours =)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you could just use tracert instead
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or in the meantime
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: keeps timing out after three hops
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so when using axence nettools, what is the useful information I am looking for?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should try to use 'trace'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just pick any host - like google.com and see on what hop there are problems
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: they said there were ddos going on yesterday
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: seems to pause at a dot on the map somewhere around where nashville ought to be
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you are interested in numbers above the map, not the map itself
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if there are high pings or loss at 1st / 2nd hop then you have problem with your ISP
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 3rd and higher (with your ISP domain name) means your ISP has problems in his network
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: had to maximize the app to see the numbers... was wondering what the heck you were talking about...looking at the IPs for the first two number, I'll guess that they are my router and modem, respectively... #3 is the phone company (centrylink), so on and so forth....
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have an average of 2 and 2 for the first two numbers... then jumps to 55 for the first non-private IP (centrytel.net) and gets worse from there (all centrytel or centrylink addresses)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: using google.com, BTW
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what about the last column "%lost"?  that seems kinda alarming.  all of them are 98-100% lost
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it rather should be 0% or 1-2
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though, routers can ignore ICMP packets under load, so %loss not neccesarily means there goes something wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though it is unusual to have all hops with such high loss
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... my router and modem are all 0% loss.  everything after that is 99-100 loss
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean some of routers may ignore ICMP packets, but it is unusual to have them all droping ICMP (unless all are in the same network)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean - network provider (like all your ISP servers)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: near as my untrained eye can tell from this data, the trouble is somehere between the back of my modem, and google.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but my modem to router, and router to computer are solid
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: is there a way to close the "Aardwolf MUSHclient Package: Getting Started" window without a mouse?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: So... cheapskate lost earbud tips trick: take your memory foam earplugs, impale it on a nail, and tada!  Instant earbud tips that fit way better than stock tips and stay in while running... plus they are now as quiet as noise cancelling head phones!
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Just didn't want to drive to the store right now.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: can someone help me get inv window working?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i have the plugin installed but the window isn't popping up
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is this Bast's plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: its aardwolf_inventory_v3
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have not used that one.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i believe its working however now when i type inv nothing happens because im guessing its suppose to show up in the window. but i don't see a new window
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: where did you get that plugin from. I don't know it either
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you get that fromthe Forums?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yeah one sec let me get the link
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have used that one. It is Blainer's plugin.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: its https://github.com/nickgammon/plugins/blob/master/aardwolf/Aardwolf_Inventory_v3.xml
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh, Nick's inventory he had made.I like the layout, but he never finished it.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: oh... ok... is there another link someone can give me to a working inv window?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: he never finished it? Could that be the problem here?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: finger bast.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast has a group of plugins that are pretty solid. Plus, it has an equipment organizer too.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: cool ill check them out
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: i dont think bast has an inventory plugin. only EQ
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ok thanks guys its late i think ill check it out tomorrow heh
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is also an inventory plugin.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It has "Inventory" as part of the EQ plugin.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: holy *#*$!!!!!!!! i've been using it for ages and i didnt know!
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: doe anyone know how to get claim ail
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: can some one please help me? I play on blackberry using bbssh.. I got a messagge java.nio.channels.unresolvedaddres and it also shown my ip adress.. Now i can't connect to aard! I'm using mxit now trying to find help
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: sounds like your dns is not working
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: how do i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: What are you trying to connect to?  aardmud.org?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: can it have to do that i have two accounts on bbssh?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Try changing it to the ip address shown in 'help ip'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: that should fix it if it's your dns server that's the problem
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: in my phone or aard?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: on phone
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: In your client
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: ok ty :)
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: wherever you configure your client to tell it where to connect to
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: how does your blackberry communicate with the internet? using wifi or do you connect using your phones data plan?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: I'm using bis not wifi, it worked fine for 2 weeks
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think mxit intercepts or has it's own dns
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i was thinking obviouslt you cant change aard's ip but ye brain fart :p been ip to long :p
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: yes mxit got its own/different ip
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: up*
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mxit users not being able to connect via regular telnet is a common problem here on teck
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tech*
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: but I'm not using mxit earlier i was using bbssh :)
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: thats ok, i dont know how either works :)
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's your data plan. isn't it bundled with mxit or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: ok I'm going to try change my dns now
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't need to mess with the dns. just use aard ip
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: um you are going to bypass your dns by entering ip directly
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: no my bis includes data download,bbm, internet browsing all for a monthly fee
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: ok brb going to try fix it :) ty
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's bis?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: blackberry internet service
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: would be nice if you could connect to 443
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: how would you go about  changing connections settings in the aard version of blowtorch ?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: options seems limited
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: I'm in at last :) i know now what the problem was but i don't know why
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: for some reason aardwolf.org port 4000 gave me problems.. now I'm using aardmud port 4010 and it runs better.. why is this?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: does any one know why?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm getting a strange error: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. . I tried reinstalling and restarting mush, and it helped when I first relogged, but now I'm getting it again
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "plugins reload eqdb" and then "eqdb refresh"
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Awesome, but the miniwindow with my inventory isn't refreshing - any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it will when you do that
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I did, and it didnt
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then type "plugins reload miniwin_eq"
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: everyone should buy bioshock infinite
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: it good?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I can wait.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I just finished it and it is very good
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Short game huh
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the ending is what makes it extraordinary, mind you
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would hope since it costed 100m to develop.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: lemme check how many hours I played
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Any infinite product you can get for a finite price is a good deal.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm yeah I finished it in 15 hours so I guess it's a little on the short side
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would like to see FFVII remade with new graphics.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: liked the first, got bored and stopped playing the second halfway, not sure i'll buy this one
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: still totally worth it especially if you get it on PC at a cheap price
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: thunderax: this one is better than the second
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also there are a lot of ways that it's different from the first and second
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: do you need to have played the second to understand the third?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: won't buy it. don't like the bioshock games
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: different? how so?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I would recommend having played the first though
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the setting is entirely different. it's also more colourful
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well ok actually not ENTIRELY different, the same basic concept of it is kind of similar, but it goes in a different direction
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Does it look as good as it does in the commercials?  Or was that 100% CGI
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: are there big daddies? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: everyone may recall that I was having bad network issues yesterday... thanks to all the assistance with 'ping', 'tracert', Axence, etc... I was able to narrow it down to my DSL modem.  It's replaced, and my network is back in perfect trim.  Thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there are Handymen, which are sort of like Big Daddies a bit
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it does look pretty good if you have the PC version and a beefy graphics card
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: is there a way to purge all cexits in a paticular zone ?  leaving map intact ?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: and not having to  run to each room by room :p
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Any info people out there have a complete list of clan level, pup, death, and sucicide messages? I'd be willing to pay for a compiled list.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in mush is there a way to search backwards for a previous command instead of scrolling through each command using the up key?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in keyboard preferences under commands, you can set it so that the up arrow (or alt+up) will search
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: search for previously entered command?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it'll do just like the up arrow does now, but only for commands that contain (or start with, not sure which) what you already have in the command line
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient can do tab completion
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that matches on output, though
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: unless there's an option to change that
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: doesnt seem to work, ty anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: hmm, looks like you can set a word bank for it
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What doesn't work about it?  works fine for me
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if I type "dai", and then press alt+up, it puts "daily blessing" on my command line, even though that was several commands ago.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i checked alt+up, typed partial word that i have used in prev command and pressed alt-up, didnt seem to work
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is it only matching start of line?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: looks like it only matches on start, yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You could do it with scripting, if you wanted to.  There are functions that return your command history.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: nice, may try that out later
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: whats the file's name to open need for speed underground 2?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: think its speed2.exe
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm, strange...but thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: is there any os that doesn't have ui-hickups? i mean is there some that has been designed not to do so and doesn't?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but ui-hickups are connected to hardware, network, peripherals
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: There are quite a few linux distros that are designed to have low UI overhead.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i hate when pushing a button or moving a window needs "a lil' time"
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably using some rt os you could have none "ui-hickups"
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: whats rt?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like QNX for example
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: real-time os
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: os where time is finite and definite
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though those are not much usable for mortals
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: too good for us?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather too simple
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: win7 is still quite bad.. ssd helps a lot though
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean instead of having multiple windows or multiple tabs in internet browser - you have just single window and single tab
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh, ok
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: RT OSes guarantees that you will have result in finite time
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so can be quite useful in medical equipment, factory automation, etc.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: interesting..
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, not much usable to typical desktop user
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: curious how long  does it take to crack a md5 hashed password? ( unsalted just md5 itself)
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Do you have a big ole dictionary?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Can't crack md5. You can brute force test, but not crack.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Oh blah,  Use a dictionary file to breute force
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: If he could crack it, he'd be a very rich man
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or killed by e.g. cia
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: or recruited by NSA
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: heh i dont wanna crack it :p i just wanna ensure a  secure login/register forms :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: or NOrth Korea!
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just factorize some numbers from RSA to get some money
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: SQL injection, please pay attention you don't leave your site vulnerable
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: They ended that challenge a while ago, Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i guess i could require to change passwords every  6 mo
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 99% of the time the crack is not guessing the un/pw combos, it is packet sniffing along the way, keylogging or social engineering
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Least I'm pretty sure they did... one sec.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i havd sanitation steps to  remove slashes
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yeah, from http://www.rsa.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=2093 - This challenge is no longer active
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: dashes? */
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The best thing anyone can learn about crypto is, if you aren't doing crypto exclusively, don't do it at all - get someone else to do it
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BlueBeetle smirks.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The best thing anyone can learn about crypto is that if somebody claims to have some brand new method that is super-secure, but they won't tell you the details, you leave.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: they used to hype that quantum computers were going to factorize RSa keys in an instant -- some scientists and or science journalists do lie
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ive seen some bcrypt+ md5+ salted  processes its insane :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh yes, open source crypto or gtfo
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: dude quantum computers like biggest math calculation is like three times five right now
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: problem with quantum computing is that you get too many results
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I thought there were no viable quantum computers in existence?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: All you can ever do with a (proper) has algorithm is a brute force attack.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: likely never going to be either
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: just lab work key word Viable screw particles
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hash*
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav blinks innocently at Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I have the best solution!  Don't let your server get owned
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah, looks like we have quantum gates and such working, even up to a quantum adder - but no quantum computer exists at the current, disclosed moment
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: my  local credit union has a funny way of authenticating :p first is acct nbr and captcha code, then comes   a 1 to 5 different random security question then after that u get an image   that pops up if its there then u enter pass and in,  3 step dance that :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I can't believe it isn't Two Factor!
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: hmm so we have a quauntum computer that can do calculations of a dollar calc 
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just avoid using simple passwords, and don't log in from a windows machine (keyloggers) and you'll probably be safe :D
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Oh man, see what phishers have done it makes the competent peopls life hard
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ranrr, keyloggers can affect any machine
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Now the hardware keyloggers are awesome
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: When was the last time you saw a keylogger for linux (or mac, or openbsd)?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I like the calibrated vibration using accelerometers keyloggers
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ye love my hardware logger :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: saved my ass a few times :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: they sell keyloggers for os x
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Oh, the ones for smartphones Vakieh? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: when i'm paranoid i typo my password and use the mouse to click to different parts
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Those are pretty hilarious.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't think most keyloggers log mouseclicks well
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Redryn, they can record like a macro if they want
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: a keylogger don't but if you have hooks in the dll already its easy to have mouse locaation reported
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: not common tho  vak
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Jhav: Yeah :-) And you can just sit the smartphone on a desk, calibrate it yourself for a certain spot, and log an actual keyboard also
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea but then they'd need to have the window position too
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not common, no - but then, keyloggers aren't exactly prolific
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just never type a important password on a machine that I don't have full control over. And never, ever, on a windows machine. Ever.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: dude I've seen bot and such ran in python
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hopefully it would be enough to confuse them at the first attempt enough to get them to skip it
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: bot and such?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: well ran through py2exe
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: a "remote administration tool"
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Two Factor was put forward as the single most powerful method of accessible encryption - too bad nobody imps it properly
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i could take it one step further and require and or annoy them to carry a  flash drive with fingerprint as a 2nd salt for accessing hardware :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you want to log into your bank, you should need to register a mobile number with which to Two Factor with, and send a text using an app or some such to unlock access for a 3 minute login window, etc
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-factor_authentication
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Most banks in sweden have a rsa dongle thingie for login.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/WishItWas-TwoFactor-.aspx
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: RSA dongles are the way to go... although do I have bad timing it seems
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Interesting you should mention that Ranrr - because that practice grew out of a US bank regulator recommendation, which the US banks 'Kinda Sorta' did
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nah, dongles are very easy to crack - just get your hands on one
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Here we have had them since the 90s.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 2nd line of communication is the only way to go
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: thought it had some stupid half life blah blah of a chemical
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Internet line and a mobile phone line, etc
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Half life is an average, and cannot be relied on in any way aside from an average
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You'd have to break into my house to get it. Sorta harder than getting a keylogger onto a windows machine.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Well if you have people breaking into your house for keyloggers they're probbly part of a three letter organization
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: dongles are just one of  the few steps  cant complete the hijack with just a dongle
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: does anyone know of a time till next gq script for mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: dude mapper and winkles isnt enough ?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: want an example of how bad people are for social engineering?  I used to be a loan officer and I would cold call people and have them give social
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: the games broke :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I wasn't even a smooth talker, I can't imagine what a con could pull
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I work in a photo lab part of the week - I get people's email passwords, facebook, even bank for some odd reason - even though I never ask and actually have no use for them
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: They jut give them along with stuff to develop?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ppl still use  35mm ?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I love my pentax!
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: It's been sitting on my shelf for a few years now... maybe a decade
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i remember the 1/10 :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I had a spy camera with those!  I was so badass in the day
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BlueBeetle smirks.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh. Just worked out the source of my intermittent network failures - it doesn't like me connecting to aardwolf and test port on the same ports :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait. They are on different ports by default. Wonder what it is about loading them both up that drops it then o.0
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: ahh thats once you're on the network :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitely Tech: how come when i make an alias in mush client, then make another alias that uses an alias i already have made, it fires the command and not the aliased command?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: set the Send To drop down box to execute
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitely Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitely Tech: which one? example, i have reca aliases to use a portal, i set that alias to execute like you said, but other aliases with reca in it dont fire the alias
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: set the one, that is supposed to trigger another alias
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitely Tech: thanks again
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: My inventory miniwindow is'nt updating - Any suggestions on how to refresh it?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Is there no GMCP flag for being in 'noexp' mode? I assume I'm just overlooking it.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The local Lemontree Tech: The command Runto camps gives me a message saying Camps is not an area keyword or find location in this area.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did you accidentally put a space behind camps?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The local Lemontree Tech: I made sure not to leave a space and it worked. Thanks. 
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't find any base 64 encoding that produces + or / despite them being part of the output character set. Is anyone familiar with this?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Commonly substituted due to URL encoding.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like a+== decoded produces k, which encoded produces aw==
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but urls can have + in them
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess it has a meaning
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: But they'll generally be decoded to spaces.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: + in URLs is used to separate script arguments from each other
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: No, & is.  Or much less commonly, ','.  + is a space in not exactly standard but universal encoding.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Are the two states of a PHP variable defined by empty($var) and isset($var) ?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Can there be something else?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Any ideas how to get rid of these plugin errors I get randomly when using things in my inventory?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably not without knowing which plugin or what the error is.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: It tends to be on Bast's eqset and eqdb
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Itd be nice if it could stay working
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Could someone help me with http://ix.io/4XM? It's a short snippet of code, I can't get page 0 to load and I'm not sure why.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Shouldn't elseif be one word?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: else if and elseif are identical in PHP so long as you use {} and not :
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AardGuide Marchetti Tech: anyone know of a mushclient script that will allow me to get items from a container by level?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: finger me
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think that one does.  Been a while since I've looked at it
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yeah, it does
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AardGuide Marchetti Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: copy and paste it into notepad, save it as a .xml file.  then go to file-plugins-add in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AardGuide Marchetti Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: sorry, meant that for tell.  trying to multitask :P
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: hmm would it be ok if i asked a tech question not directly related to the mud?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: never ask to ask
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: We'll never know unless you ask. Asking to ask is pointless.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: true..
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: well this rig has win7 on it but the gfx card is 8.1 so not suported, would there be any generic video driver that will at least put me in a higher reso then 1024x?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: then pls enlighten me :)
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who made the gfx card?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, what card is it. "8.1" tells us nothing
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: its a Ti4200 msi
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: www.nvidia.com
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://driverscollection.com/?H=Ti4200-TD8X&By=MSI%20(Microstar)
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's the miscrostar list of drivers at least
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get it from nvidia would be far better, more up to date
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Probably
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: ill look into that cheese, hopefully ill find something usefull
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why are you using win7 on such an old honk of crap?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: hell, puot 8 on it
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 8 runs better on less resources
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: because its a replacement rig that a friend droped, that he used as a coffeetable?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'd be better off running an OS that is temporal context appropriate, such as XP
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: uhu, if i had the software lyin around i wouldnt be askin for help :)
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or throw linux on it
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he put win7 on it, did he?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: already used to the aardmuch .. so no need for liux
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mush runs under wine
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: lookin for a driver now, thx a bunch tho will let ya know how it turns out
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: in fact, it plays really nicely under ubuntu 13.04 from what i've seen
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ti4200 should be supported natively by win7
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: so you need a better graphics card if you want better graphics resilution
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: lol im talking about 1152x
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://www.geforce.co.uk/drivers/results/57502
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: roger that last lonk looks solid, ill try that now :)