T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: can someone advise? i accidentally clicked/moved something and the main window in my mushclient seems to have disappeared. how do i get it back?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: see where the numbers 1, 2, 3, etc are on top? maybe try clicking on number 1
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: it's already depressed
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: the button for 1 i mean
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: comms log on top and the maps and stats windows r still open 
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: but just can't see the main window at all, although there's a shadowy (frame only and apparently translucent/transparent) box or window on one side
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: that can't be interacted with
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: alternatively, could u tell me how i can reinstall without it affecting my mapper? how do i preserve what i have already mapped?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can try typing resetaard.  That will reset all your windows to default
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: that worked! (i mean the windows are all screwed up but they all appear now...)
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: now just need to customise them again. thank u very much!:)
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep. They are all at default. You need to re-move and re-size them again.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: anyone here done movie editing with IMovie?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I need to do a compilation movie (a promo vid) for a junior league quarterback, so I have to get clips from a lot of different game movies. The problem is that I'm using small clips from movies lasting about 10mins, so it's really heavy on my system. Is there a way to just copy/paste the clips I need and delete the event from the cache without the clips disappearing from my project?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: As in should I just save my project after every copy/paste?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: or export, reopen and add more clips?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huitzil Opochtli Tech: Interesting I just goggled it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huitzil Opochtli Tech: erm google
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I'm grateful you'd do that. I tried but I guess I'm too much of a nub.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huitzil Opochtli Tech: On a Win7 machine I could tell what I use. Sorry I can't help any further.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varas nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: alot of linux - http://i.imgur.com/oJNGgiW.png
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: if im on a laptop how wpuld i move if i normaly moved using nuber pad?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I bought a usb 10key
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But you can use the nsew letters to move
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: nsewud, rather
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use del/home/end/pgup/pgdown/pause on a thinkpad
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Aardmush:  is there a code, or command that will parse the contents of the clipboard as a variable?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess a "pre-defined" variable?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: there are functions get/setclipboard, you could work some automagical with that if you wanted
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: could you throw me an example to see how it's put together?  What I want to do is copy duckbat room numbers, and have them auto-populate a "mapper goto xxx" alias.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not sure what you mean, I haven't made anything like that - but the info is there to be played with. getcipboard will grab text into whatever Lua variable you like, to then be manipulated into a command of some sort
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: getclipboard, rather
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'll play with that
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Anyone know why containers and wearable are mutally exclusive for compare? Or am I doing it wrong... seems to rather defeat the purpose, does it not?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compare legs all wearable containers worked for me
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, it works Abe - but it ignores the 'wearable' component. Being 201, that will only affect you if you have 232+ gear in the bag, of course
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Both 'compare legs wearable containers' and 'compare legs containers wearable' yield 1-201 gear for me
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So I suppose rather than mutually exclusive, I mean containers overrides wearable
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I just tested on a slot where I do have too-high items and get the same result
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: can you start to record a speedwalk somehow in mushclient with a command?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Mush has a mapper command I don't use and a history command
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: check out mapper
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just go to destination room, do mapper thisroom to obtain room id, return to start room and type mapper where <room id>
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that works with the fiendish plugin, I use that
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: AUTOMATIC MAPPER by Fiendish This plugin is a significantly improved GMCP version of the original ATCP mapper by Nick Gammon.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Is anyone around whom could help me with a mushclient question please?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just ask. If anyone is here and knows he will answer.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what makes a macro difrent from a alias
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Ok then here goes. First I am using the screen reader JAWS with mushclient. I'm new to this client. Now if I have my prompt turned on, it is reading all the numbers very first thing.. eg, *types exits* "200 hp/200 hp 300m/300m...your exits are" and it's reading that to me when anything is being sent to the mud. However I found some vague information that could be sorted if a trigger is tied up to the prompt line and a newline is placed before the prompt so that when information is coming from the mud it would tell me like my exits first and then read the prompt after the information has been sent.  However i'm finding no information on how to do that.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: y is it so long?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Sorry I thought I should explain my problem to save you needing to have clarification later.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: I think most vi players turn off prompt
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but prompt shows up after your command output so not sure why it is read first
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: I read an explaination once as to why it does but I didn't understand a word. It was the kind of answer that only people whom know how to fix it already would understand.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: where did you read that?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: It was somewhere I think buried in one of the mushclient forums. The guy who is I think the creator of mushclient, nick something is great for answering questions on the forums but to me his answers are not really explainations. Sort of like, "my car isn't starting what do I do?" and he answers install a x34c spark plug and you'll be good to go." but then your thinking ... what the on earch is that and where would I instal it.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: But I don't know much about screen readers. If you don't get an anser here, try again in a few hours. Maybe then there's someone online that knows.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Thanks. Ok how about this one then, i'm reading through the documentation but I can't physically script in it yet. so i'm just using the wizards found in the game part, how can I make a trigger, lets say of my prompt and wildcard my hp number and then tie that wildcard to an alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean that you want to be able manually invoke hp/mana report instead of reading it from prompt ?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Yes please.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so then you can use 'report' and turn of prompt
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Can it be done with the wizards or am I going to have to physicaly script it in?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: for triggers and aliasses you cannot use the wizard. Assuming you mean the plugin wizard in the File menu
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though 'report' will also report your hp/mana to other persons in room
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Ok. understood. Thank you all for your time and help.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably you could use plugin that will set up some variables basing on GMCP info
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those variables could be accessed from mush alias
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: I think I know how I can do it once I can script in mushclient a bit. Ok. I must be off but thank you again.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: can i record a speedwalk in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: #alias {sw1} {run foobar}
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: using mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I don't know of a way to ask MUSH "which steps have I taken" though
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think he means he wants to run somewhere and record the steps
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: that works in mush, if you have aardmush
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: i do
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it comes with #alias and #trigger command line options
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: mapper find <room name>|mapper where <matching #>|alias the results
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: dont have maps on this mush
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: no plugins.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then you cannot record your run
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: then it's not aardmush :P
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Without the plugins, mushclient is little more than a Lua engine, tbh
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can still do it, but you have to do the heavy lifting, recording your inputs and whatnot
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: easier to write it down then i think
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or, just go to aardwolf.com, and download the one that has all the fancy plugins already :P
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Though I suppose viewing the command history (ctrl+h) could help you do it manually
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: who likes kaspersky?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I use it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: for business or personal?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but I don't know jack
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Ubuntu ftw 
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: this is for enterprise stuff. god i can only imagine trying to get these people to use linux
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: linus is for that guy that buys a junker car because he KNOWS he's going to have to get under the hood
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I should have typed linux there.. but somehow, linus sounds better
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: he did create it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: a guy names linus?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I thought his name was bill, or steve or something
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: StarsOscar . o O ( Linus in blue overhalls holding a wrench... )
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I don't like linux
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i don't like kaspersky
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not sure if their website has been defaced or if they paid a lot of money for the design
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: K, so I've been tasked with using a pocket android pc (thumb drive android machine with just a HDMI connection) as a set-top box, but what I need to do is share the keyboard/touch events from your personal mobile device to said pocket pc ... anyone have any preferred tools they've used for similar functionality?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I just installed mudlet and the aard version of it - there is some funkiness with shift and 'a' and at the bottom quarter of the screen, there is a ton of extra space sometimes that have ' at the left
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there a way to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: and to put the minimap in a separate window?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ny ideas why I can't use shift to capitalize some letters using mudlet and the aard set for it?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: macro problem, I would guess, but SHIFT is one of them keys that should always work even when you have a macro on it.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: even in mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: shift key doesn't work to capitalize a few letters
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: help
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i have run malware bytes/ avg ,etc.  And scans are clean.  Then if I use IE to ONLY google random search terms, and click the link I'm getting some kind of redirect trojan
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: unplug yourself and leave yourself that way
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brujah Tech: Possibly rooted.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: any ideas how the heck this is happening?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: brujah what does that mean and how do i fix
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it would help if you said where it redirects you to
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: go find a program called 'Combofix' and use it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check your DNS
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: mokg its a different site but not the one showing up on the google links.  obviously one of those stupid redirect virus sites
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: manually put DNS to 8.8.8.8 (it's a google-run public DNS server)
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: abelinc how do i do that and what do i look for
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: you probably downloaded a toolbar
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ipconfig /all will list what you're currently using
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well once you guys get done with that stuff --> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/combofix/
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and network connections,properties of your NIC, TCP/IP is where you could set it manually
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brujah Tech: Rootkit redirecter. anyway, nasty stuff.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if i type that in the run bar, something flashes so fast i can't read it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: you have to type cmd first
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: but you dont have to do that really
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, start ->run, type cmd...THEN type ipconfig /all
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what do i have to do then, mokg?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea abe i see all that stuff.  what does manually setting my dns do?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first, look at what it says now for DNS server, to see if it's a rational one
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i don't know the difference between a rational and not rational one
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: setting it manually lets you know/control what computer you ask for domain/IP translation
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paste it here
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 192.168.1.1
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, that means it's using your router for DNS...tbh, those can be fooled easily enough, so I'd suggest setting it to 8.8.8.8 even if that isn't the root issue
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well there are like two entries
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i have a cisco anyconnect thing which has a different number
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 10.106.3.21
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 10.97.1.21
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, all 3 of those numbers aren't allowed on the Internet, they're "internal use only" for private networks
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: vakieh it won't.. once societies advance births per woman drops sharply
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so i guess i need to run combofix?  this is annoying
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: in africa, hymens cure aids
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: MIS
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ok.  If I search "playstation streams games" in google, first link is to a WSJ article, which I would like to read
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if I click on it, then the top left of IE says I'm visiting some random IP, which isn't the sitte, and I'm redirected to some ghetto crap
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: antivrus coming up with nada
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: how do I set up macros on function keys in wintin?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/macro.php
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is there a built in function in mush that will execute the contents of a file (i.e. send each line to execute)? probably spent more time looking for something that already existed than it would have taken to write myself
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mye: see if this helps you: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7434
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: looks like that will work.. thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: google redirect virus is like someone amputated a limb
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: did you download combofix like I told you to?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, I downloaded ccleaner and disabled every single startup program and it seems to be working (for now)
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and i will run eset overnight to try and clean it up
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and then i will do combofix
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ccleaner won't do it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: then castrate the virus author?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I don't know about eset
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I'd run combofix, it's pretty effective.. I use it at work.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: thank you Eutychus
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: fact is I've had this exact same hijacker on my computer and I also fixed it on a friends' computer
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: both times combofix was all that would work
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the weird thing was, I ran AV (avg and malare bytes) as soon as I saw the redirect, it cleaned up a few things, and then goog seemed clean but started redirecting a few hours later.  so i'm curious if it will start up again.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: yeah believe me I was near panic by the time I found something that worked
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: all the usual stuff just wasn't doing it for that one
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Combofix won't always fix hijackers, theres another program I use called 'HiJack This' which works very well.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: maybe i will try combofix on a laptop i got from my brother which is so riddled with porn it's got viruses out the wazoo
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes, I also ran the hijack this log and sent it to someone
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well hijack this give syou info, but it won't actually fix things for you unless you know what you're doing
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Right, I use it because I know what I'm doing.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the laptop is odd... the usb ports shut down and it won't connect to a remote pc or anything.  like something is blocking ports, and I can't get admin user on it.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you know what's not cool?  a 1.2mm nobel prize.  20 million?  that's cool.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I love you guys.  Just sayin.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: How can I get settings/aliases/macros to save in wintin after quitting?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/write.php
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the better way to do it is to create separate script files organized by function, and make a loader file
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and create your triggers, aliases, etc by editing/creating those files
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: If anybody could help me that would be great! I am currently running on a laptop that cannot handle the programs I am running such as AutoCAD and Creo and i am looking to get a new laptop. Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes. Get a new laptop.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Me too, well kinda, got a chromebook :p
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is screen resolution of high importance to you, due to AutoCAD?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If so, you might want to consider the retina macbook pros, for their very high native resolution.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: out of curiosity, what are you using now?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: no, i just need it to run without my curser being 10 minutes behind what i am trying to do
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if not, well, that certainly opens things up a bit.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: it's possible you could upgrade the ram in the one you have
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Any size constraints? battery life requests? etc?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You Prefer Carpet Tech: wouldnt ram be cleared out by regular restarts of the cpu?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "cleared out" and "upgrade" are not the same thing.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im grabbing specs now, its a HP something, 4gb ram, processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU       M 370  2.40GHz
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: not sure what you mean Carpet
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cleaning off your desk does not make it bigger.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if you have a desktop that runs it well you could just run it on that and remote to it
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its a hp pavillion DV6
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: she does not have a desktop
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: I do not want a desktop
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: needs to be portable 
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: she just does not know the power of a desktop thats it *nod self
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: eh I dunno if a laptop that won't run it native is going to work well remoting to it from elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod just saying if you had one you could put the rendering intensive stuff on that and remote to it
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That's a terrible idea, Vorpes.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: why?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Having the bandwidth to have a reasonable experience for doing autocad remotely at a decent resolution is a little bit of a long shot. Also, that is not what they asked for.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: good point on the resolution
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its unfortunately not your usual 800x600 1024x768 etc for just casual remote stuff. But I tend to see autocad as high res=best res
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: Autocad is the big one that lags my computer
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it looks like you have a pretty decent laptop. is autocad that resource intensive? 
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just generally, you might look at the Lenovo Y500.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: When i am running it, i cant run anything else on my computer
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/laptop/ideapad/y-series/y500/
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so I have a script that gags the stats tag, but i can't see it updating. so I ungagged it, but i'm not seeing anyting with stats.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: stats tag even
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: tech does anyone know how to get whatever is tagged by that to show up?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: statmon?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: oops.  anyway thanks!  it got turned off somehow  :)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: NP, glad I could help
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to permenently extend the time it takes mapper to do a cexit?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sure, edit the plugin xml file
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Hulu won't buffer on my apple TV
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Need a little help from somebody using cmud. For no reason I understand, none of my aliases are working. I checked and none are disabled. Anybody seen this problem before? I quit and logged back in, no improvement.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: check that parsing is on
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Ok. I'm unfamiliar with that. How do I do it?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Nm. I found it under options and you were right. All ok now :)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Thanks! That had me scratching my head :)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Before I go diving into the code, is there a ready made option to allow what is captured by Bast's broadcasters to propagate through to the main window?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have experience with GFI antivirus?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is there a way to make mushclient replace a word? ie when I type bag2 it uses the id#?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: you can make an alias like #alias {bag2 *} {get %1 125151662}
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or you can set a variable, and call it with @varname notation
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i just need a convenient way to sort between 2 aardbags without having to add a keyword.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: sure, help objectid
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but if you really want word substitution, you can do #alias {*bag2*} {%1 11111111 %2}
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: There's always the low-tech solution of 1.'bag aardwolf' and 2.'bag aardwolf'
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: went with aliasing * * bag2 to %1 %2 bag-objid to get or put to said bag
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: will that cause an odd issues?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, but it also won't let you ident bag2
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and won't let you type "tech this is a message about bag2"
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I'm ok with that I don't id it near as often as get from or add to
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: this is a message about 1016428735
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it will but you'll not have a clue lol
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because "* * " doesn't mean only two words
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but I shouldn't stumble across bag 2 too many times in the game short of my own inventory
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exam bag2 also wouldn't work, if you use that rather than look in
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i only wanted to be certain that the 2 wildcards starting the expression wouldn't cause hiccuos
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it must have at least 2 words before "bag2" with that
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and I have a basic alias set 2 invsort objid when bag 2 is entered alone
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abe's bags are all keyworded, but I did the alias thing for my alts...I did it more like Cheez's suggestion so that wherever in the line I type "weaponbag" it subs it
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: worst case you'll be talking to someone else and it'll look like your "this is a message" tech post, nothing bad will happen :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: good to know my bag2 id will be famous
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll be permanently archived on the Internet a bit after midnight tonight :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and if I hate it, I add a keyword
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: thanks all
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ir
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: is there a way to make buttons that don't glitch or actually work
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: yeah, cuz that's specific enough to get a real answer...
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Button features are only there to confuse people.  They don't actually work
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: im using a tablet which is a arnova 10d g3
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ok, that's all fine and dandy. But what buttons are you referring to?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: the onscreen buttons that you can press to do commands and shizzle
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: for blowtorch? or some other app.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: blowtorchl
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then, the answer to your question is absolutely. But, without you giving us actual details on what you're doing and what's going wrong, we can't begin to help you.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: im trieing to configure the buttons but when i click them they dont respond or just simply move to another side of the screen
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Default buttons or ones you've made?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: made buttons
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then you've done something wrong, we need code :P
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you're setting the primary action and not the swipe action
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and make sure you'r just touching and releasing the button and not holding, swiping, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: thx it works
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger sighs.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Joshuaturner sighs.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: is this sigh's of relief I see?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger shrugs in response to Sir Hollis Fletcher's question.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: thats a fancy way of saying my name
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: for a fancy gentleman
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: off corse
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: course
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: is there some key available to determine what various room colors mean on muschlcient area map?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: hover over ? in the map
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well "well" terrain and "pillar" terrain.. I mean is this just random or a point to it? I know help terrain gives me info on the symbols for the other map
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there is a small set of basic terrain types in the game.  All the rest are copies of these, with the only difference being the coloring as seen in the ascii bitmap.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: hm.. ok... I assume most don't really do anything special?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that said, I believe builders have the ability to set up the sector stats any way they wish and there are mechanical issues (flight, etc) that can affect this as well.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: some sectors even use the same bitmap (including color choice), but have different stattage behind them.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: yeah I've noticed that
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: what's the best free registry cleaner/antivirus?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ccleaner for the reg
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: free registry cleaner!
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the one with the flashing "free" sign
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i usually setup family with malware bytes and AVG
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I useuslly set my family up with spinster and net nanny
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: you monster!
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and key loggers
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and random web cam grabs that UL to a cloud server
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nothing changed on the wiki for existing users right? Just new accounts disabled? Can't seem to login.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I logged in to update the mudmessages page yesterday
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: K, guess I'm just using the wrong password.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: why would this be documented in the mushclient help file if you can't use it? "[string "Alias: "]:4: 'io.popen' not implemented in MUSHclient"
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: seems silly
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helpfile expressly says that it's not supported...
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: yeah.. i noticed that after the fact.. started outside the help files
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the reason to include that particular help would be quite for that reason...someone familiar with Lua may expect the functionality to exist
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is the future of console video games physical or digital download?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: Digital
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: digital
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I would have thought download clearly, but from what I can tell the publishers are setting the prices the same
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lumish Tech: the future of everything is digital
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: plus wouldn't it take forever and a day to download these games that run off blue ray discs?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i don't have a ps3 or xbox 360 or any of that, so I don't know how it works
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oy vey. Need gpedit installer for Windows 7, and it's been discontinued. Blasted corrupted gpedit.dll file, locks me out of my school laptop.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There we go, MajorGeeks to the rescue... maybe.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends if my laptop is fixed or not.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: at least you don't have an entire company that is still clinging to xp
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sucks to have school laptop get locked though now. finals are next week for me
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Same for me.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: cheers to burning out bright and drinking hard
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's finals for the current mod. I start a new mod one week after that.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ugh. First try didn't work. Let's see...
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli wonders how the gpedit.dll got corrupted in the first place.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: .dll's are corrupt by nature
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What's wrong with DLLs (except for the obvious, that they are part of a windows system)?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: DLL hell is something all windows devs and support workers fear :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Basically really really bad version cross compatibility, due to *certain* people coding based on quirks
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: http://www.desaware.com/tech/dllhell.aspx
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just want Group Policy to work again so that I can connect to the internet and all that good jazz without having problems.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Instead of having version 10.5 of a service installed, you need 10.5, then another program requires 9.2, and another needs 4.8, and perhaps even 1.3.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yikes.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's not a big problem in linux systems (but it is a small one... :)
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In open source, if you break back compatibility people will fork and your code will be left in the dust. Windows doesn't have that issue, so they break with alarming regularity
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You mean that commercial software is worse than open source stuff in this regards? That's insane.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That and people will look at pre and post of a particular module, say "I don't need to limit myself to stinking p/p, I'll inspect the vars and break into the black box like I'm not supposed to" and then whinge when an update changes what should have remained abstracted
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 0000021d [SR] Could not reproject corrupted file [ml:520{260},1:46{23}]"\??\C:\Windows\System32"\[1:20{10}]"gpedit.dll"; source file in store is also corrupted
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, that's what happens when people only learn faux coding.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: "Oh but you didn't mention the change to the way you were implementing that data container's lookup method" "Well no shit Sherlock, it keeps the same pre/post, beyond that is your issue"
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Most good coders move away from windows as soon as they can :D
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The best money is in windows, so a lot don't, also
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, the best money is in embedded.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Best money is in defense :p
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: best money is laundered!
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Working with weapons is not paid well, as any government job, but I guess it's more stable.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Working with defence comes in 2 types - internal, and external. I almost went into defence IT as an officer, but got pulled aside by a friend who works as a subcontractor and shown the difference in pay... easily 5x
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Once you swap out benefits (AU defence don't drop a cent on medical, basic food, accomodation, etc) it works out to mebbe 2-3x
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In any case, weapons development is mostly embedded systems. 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: defence IT is a whole lot more than weapons RnD. Every soldier and his dog has a PC, and they run windows :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess that's why we never hear about the AU military.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They are all just sitting around trying to get their pcs to work.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: there a script command to save-world in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: Save()
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i believe you can do a save-as by Save("mynewfile")
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: no, just want to force it to save the current world file which i'll assume is the default
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Is there a gmcp module for campaigns and gqs? Or just for quests?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to reset the s&d gui window when it gets stuck?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anybody!?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mob names: a-z, -, ' are the only possibilities, correct?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yah
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ok, looks like numbers also
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: and commas...
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: and "...
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So long as there is no () my pattern should still work though :\
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Too bad, there are mobs with ()s
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or used to be (the one I recall was in Mirror)
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a site i could post database files so somebody can coppy it?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Depends. What db?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: database files are just files...there are tons of filesharing sites
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: anyone have a nexus 4?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh, school IT guy decided it was beneficial to the school community to not have system restore functionality. *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: have to love school IT people
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right now, my whole group policy system is corrupted, and I can't do a restore to fix it because none exist.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also cannot find a proper GPEdit installer, whee.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ny ideas as to why my shift+a and several other keys are not working in mudlet? Instead of getting a capital a when shift+a, I get a blank space
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haha, my mind's all frazzled. I was thinking "shift+a? what does that do?" :p
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Makes a capital A in most cases :P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli slaps Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aurelia: Is it working in other programs?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: a few other keys as well, shift+e moves up, shift+w moves me north
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, on a laptop?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: and yes, it works in other programs
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then why not use numpad?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Possible macros, then.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Because I'm not trying to move, I'm just trying to get capital letters
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nods, you have a macro for alt+a that's not defined to send anyhting, would be my guess
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Forgive Cheezburger, he's a bit dense sometimes.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shift+a, not alt.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What I meant, not what I typed :P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hrm ok, I'll take a look
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is getting quite frustrated with this stupid corrupted dlls bit that forces no network ability on the school computer...
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: f1 on mushclient is the helpfile. can i change that somehow and put something else on f1
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: can change f2-f12 but not f1
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: file>global preferences - General Tab
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Guess I'm going to have to settle on a hopeful Windows 7 repair install to fix everything. *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is it possible to run a program without the dlls file? Or will it simply take longer?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: probably not possible
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hmmkay
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: what are you having trouble with specifically?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm wondering if its possible to run mush without the dll/dlls file
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no :P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Didn't think so :p
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: uhh... yeah no... but why would you need to?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you could have just tried
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: but, hope springs eternal
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm tired of wiping my hard drive.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: you can reinstall it?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Yeah, but I'm still tired of doing it
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And what would being able to run a .exe without .dll's change about that? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: Aurelia may be looking for a 'portable' version of mush
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I've tried deleting the registry files when I have the problem, but it doesn't change anything
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Mush is portable :P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11128
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Install/run from dropbox
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I tried running it in a sandbox but it wouldn't run in the more protective states
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so I'm using google chrome and it's suddenly telling me google's security certificate isn't good and it won't lt me use it. Any advice? 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: what if you use another browser Lilleana?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: hmmmm, let me try
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: it's saying the certificate isn't valid 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: something about it directing me to dropbox.com instead of google.com
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: and when I hit "proceed anyways' it took me to dropbox....wtf :-( 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: chrome wont let me proceed at all, but safari let me  
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: is your system time correct?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: what if you change system time back one month or so?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: okay...I changed the system time to February....how doe sthis help google???
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: and yeah no change 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ok, just in case your certificate was expired
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh okay 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Google.com should not have an expired certificate, really...
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I doubt this only affects google.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Redirect to dropbox is weird.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: http://imgur.com/hLK3j6p
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: that is what Im getting 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Could be a browser hijack/host redirect.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Similar to what Kojiro claims was happening on tech board, I believe.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: yeah, sounds like it. Doesn't make much sense that it tries to redirect to a non-malicious site though
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah, that is what confused me - dropbox.com oh so scary! 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: IP tracking, Elf, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so it's something on my computer? 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Lilleana.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seems like it.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: hmmmmm
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I've never had a problem before. Not even sure what to do with that info.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Read notes 6149 through 6154 on tech board. It may help you.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Lilleana, if you try to access https://www.dropbox.com directly there is no problem?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yep no problems
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: and visiting any other site works fine?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah, so long as I have the direct URL it's fine 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: so https://www.google.com works?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: that one does not work
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: redirect to dropbox certificate msg 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: It does not sound like a normal redirect virus at all. Though my knowledge about them is from googling 5 mins.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: it doesn't seem normal to me either 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how do you move a window after it moves up and the bar becomes hidden?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: reset the interface
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: or is this a generic windows window?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mush window.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... reset
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: or click on the "window" (ALT-W) control panel and tile all the windows
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that might only apply to differetn "worlds" though
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: seems to apply to different worlds
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: try 'resetaard'
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: is it the search & destroy window?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there's a window for that?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I've only ever been using the main window interface
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Ok.. .I just read thru the script file and didn't see anything about a window... how can I bring it up?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: xreset worked.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: xset rather
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I changed the script to have the window reset where I want it instead of using the stored values.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do I bring up the list of plugin elements?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for example - I use three moons, and to get that window up, I would type 'mb moons show'..
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do I find such commands for all the other pluggins I have installed?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would depend on the plugin author
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have bast stuff installed, type just "plugins"
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "ww help" will give you the helps for all winklewinkle's stuff that's installed
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast and fiendish both have excellent wiki sections to their websites which detail info on the plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: is there a way to make text smaller wuth android clients?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, go to options page, window, font size
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: i don't see any options...other then like bg color etc
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: will figure it out tomorrow
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Welp, can't do repair install as I don't have a Windows 7 Professional key attached to the school laptop.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that never stopped me
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have no clue how the Group Policy client got corrupted, though. Along with many other files, apparently. :\
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "The App Store is about to reach the 50 billion download mark. To celebrate, Apple is going to give the person who downloads the 50,000,000,000th app $10,000 in iTunes credit."
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: why cant i just have 10000 dollars
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the hell would I do with 10k of itunes?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: wonder how much they'll make off people trying to be the 50 billionth guy.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: common, legal, and often unintentional sort of quasi-scam...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I did something unusual today... I installed a program from a disc. Like I used my cd/dvd drive thingie!
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: does anyone else notice a bit of a delay doing pretty much anything with Winkles 'mapper extender' enabled?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: not here
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hadn't noticed any issues with just the SD plugin - but when I installed the extender and GUI, I have a good 400-500 ms pause 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: uninstall it then
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: is your computer ancient?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I did,,, and it went away... I'd REALLY like to use it, just not at the cost of the delay
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's not cutting edge.. 2 yrs... shouldn't have an issue with preformance
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: try a different version
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there an archive?  I have the one off the "scriptlisious" google page
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Area runto scripts work fastest if you manually set a target room - otherwise you get an increase in processing time needed to find the destination.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: idk how the snd one works, but I seem to recall people talking about xset or something?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the point and click was super spiffy... but I've decided that's just too automatic.  can't find a path 1 outa 4 times, and leaves me scratching my head as to where I ended up...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If it can't find a path you need to mapper better :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for the zones I'm cping in, I ahve about 98% complete maps...just trips on stupid stuff.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: passdoor goes down, intercepted by agro... doesn't recover well.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: passdoor has a wish, and as for aggros you have mapper resume
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Vonliege setting cxeits helps on some
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A poor workman blames his tools. Of course, so does someone with shitty tools, but tools are usually ok.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have about 950 cexits set... and reume only works if you started with 'mapper area %%1' to start with...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oh for pitty sake!  I come looking for help, and you all just bash me over the HEAD!  jeez!
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: vakieh is such an elitist :(
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: zz
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: >>Found 2265 custom exits. :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mapper resume works for me fine
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how do you count how many cexits you have?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mapper resume works for any run managed with mapper goto
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: mapper cexits
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't that spam you a craplaod
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 1 line per cexit, plus some trim
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn's face relaxes as he takes a deep breath.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm only 791 for me
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: local content though, so it's not nearly as bad as mud spam
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: guess i'm less of a bot than both of you!
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Vonliege: Birth Date   : [ 17 Feb 2013 ] Vakeih: Birth Date   : [ 29 Apr 2011 ]
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: 1139. how do I make it automatically gquest for me? :(
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: install the autogquest plugin, guh
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dexter knows where to get it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you go through the mapper xml file and replace all the autowalk 0 with 1
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (it's an actual variable)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: anyone uses mudlet on a mac?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: no I use mush
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I have no lag running MUSH on win 7 on VMware Fusion 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: OS X 10.8.3 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: i'm not using 10.8.3.. using the one before that.. snow leopard?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: before that is Lion, 10.8 is ML
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: before that?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: well basically i'm only a leopard :( 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: before Lion is Snow Leopard
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: still can run parallels or VMware
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: or wine
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: which Mac?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: used wine for a while.. it had some issues trying to run mush
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: hence moved to this... mudlet.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I never had issues, but I decided to install VMware Fusion instead when I bought this
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: im using mush with wine - what problems did you have?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: does anyone know how to disable the helpfile on f1 button on mushclient. I wanna use that button for something else
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: if you run parallels or fusion, and choose to run unity, it becomes like another app window
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: the map doesnt work.. lol.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: somewhere in global preferences, I believe.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: e.g. its a fuzzy blurred out screen for me
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I am running parallels, works great, but that costs money 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: well there are always other less desirable ways
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: idk, I should have done parallels, not sure why I chose to run fusion :p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: is there a way to setup a trigger to fire every time i change rooms? be it a portal, or custom exit or newsud, or death, or ..??
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not directly, no.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Can hack in a hook to the mapper though
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: anyone know how to make a macro for moving on a laptop? typing 'n'+enter gets rather annoying. and i dont have the numberpad on the right. and the arrows only scroll through text
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It will depend on your client
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the keys like UIO, JKL, etc...do they have little numbers on them anywhere?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: no i dont have the little blue numbers either
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: im using mush
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=macros
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you can fake it, but you'd have to remember which key is which number, and do them using something like ctrl-j for west, ctrl-l for east, ctrl-i for north, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: yeah so how do i make that macro or whatever
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd use this as a guide: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: yeah you cant make new ones. guess ill have to be a little backwards. lol. thanks evreyone
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: it says you cant add new macros
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: right in that link you gave me.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the entire page, it tells you how to make them for any combination
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You have to add them add a script level, it's saying that you can't add any to the Game -> Configure -> Macro's List
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, misread what cheez said
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: ahh i see now. thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both the page ixle posted and the page I posted tell you what to use to make them using any key combo
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Aside from making macros, you can keep your last typed input in the command line so to go north multiple times you only have to type 'n' once then just hit enter over and over. With tintin I can also type 'nenw' to go north, east, north, west which also makes it easier. I'm sure there is a way to do that in Mush too.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd not like that without requiring a "run"...it'd interfere with typing new, news, sun, etc...you normally wouldn't use that, but it'd make for some interesting notes, with words written vertically ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's news to me :)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tintin is smart about how it does it.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no such thing
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It only interprets them as movement commands if they are the first and only thing input.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right. so not smart
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Smart or not, it works.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It can be turned off if you dislike it.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fine, post a note to me with news as the subject, without using "dotcommands" to make it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Note posted :0
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, cheater :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is better, but it's not tintin doing it :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now do it without you [manually or via your aftermarket scripting] turning
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now do it without you [manually or via your aftermarket scripting] turning off the feature ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's what I did. :D
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I didn't turn anything off.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you did turn it off, you just forgot that you did that...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nope. 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup ranrr...look at your GMCP scripts
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Wendy's is better than Burger King
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you guys are still using my package, I do turn off the autorun functionality in note-mode. FYI.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I knew ya did, and tt++ doesn't ship knowing anything about aard's note mode ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't the one claiming tt++ did it :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Correct. Still didn't turn it off.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you did
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hey, is that you standing behind me knowing what I typed?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you saying you didn't type note write?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In any case, believe what you will.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I typed note write abelic, but close
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I didn't say that you typed tt++'s command to turn it off, I said that you [manually or via aftermarket script] turned it off...which you did
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah, so you mean I have some alias for note doing some magic?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not an alias, GMCP status recognition
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Let me check.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the tintin++ feature will not allow you to write that note, without you loading scripts to override said feature...cheezburger's GMCP stuff turns off lots of stuff when you enter note mode
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess I have an old version of that script then, because mine doesn't. I had to use another technique.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: \news?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, #send news
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if you "used another technique", then you're verifying that you did not write that note without cheating :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Same thing
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I cheat by starting an actual text editor to write all my notes.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you check carefully, what I said was that I did not turn the feature off :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you both proved my point about the feature not being smart enough :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Smart enough is subjective.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's smart enough for me.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Pretty much all useful features have corner cases where they may not work for some users they way they were intented. I don't see that as a problem.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, without turning that feature off, you couldn't even stop writing a note without dotcommands
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't call that a corner case
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, you can
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not as a user that doesn't know how to fool things
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The autorun script explicitly ignored "end" :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ignores*
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, then you just can't go east, north, down }:>
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: gotta pick your battles with code :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: notes > e, n, d
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well I can go e/n/d and write notes just fine so I'm not bothered.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, which is why the normal way to use those commands requires you to tell it that you want it to be runcommands by prepending "run" or a period
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course the period used in zmud and bt gets interesting results on gossip ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I've always hated the in game note editors so my "cheat" is this: http://pastebin.com/LhTjQJF9
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I've always use .s and .p in notes anyways :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just compose outside my tf window entirely, then paste into the game
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I write the note in vim, then stream it into a send command :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's similar to what I do only the text editor gets called by tintin and then I use #textin to do the "pasting"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech:  for blank lines, viola
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: @w that is
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: stringed instrument
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I just use a space for a blank line.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'm usually sitting at a Windows machine and using putty, so use editpad pro or notepad++ and putty has right-click as paste
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I use @w for both blank lines and indentation
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I think we proved that note writing isn't a big enough issue to disable the tintin speedwalk setting :)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually you showed that the usual current tintin setup already disables it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well, do you at least think you might like that feature a bit more with automatic disable/enable for notes or other note bypasses? I think that was how this got started.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue has the same feature available, I don't enable it in tf either (so it's not a tf-vs-tt thing ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Right, it's a merit of the feature thing
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Even the rare times when I'm on a keybord with a numpad I don't use it because I like to keep my fingers on the home keys
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I can type kill <blah> faster after moving that way
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I self-taught to type, so I pretty much type with just my left hand and don't use home keys
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You are such a unique and special snowflake Abe :)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can type over 70wpm with my left hand ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I slow down to around 40 if I do it "properly"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Ixle can type over 80 WPM with his right hand, which is his off hand.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: an that is near flawless... he doesn't have to slow down
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the downside is that I also jerk off with my left hand :(
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ixle lost lost his left hand in a Yakuza Hone ritual... that leaves him rather lonely while he's typing
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You comfort him.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle bought a fleshlight
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: is this really the place for this? *peer*
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: We're talking about client features and typing, how is it not the place for it?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: you were talking about jerking off, and using fleshlights, while typing, which should probably be on curse. *bonk ixle*
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: fleshlights are kinda technology
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but anyway, how about them linuxes!
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unix wannabes :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have one of those!
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I hadn't seen a UNIX I didn't like, until I met macosx.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, and unixware. And maybe AIX. And SGI.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aqua is a nicer shell than most
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, OSX gives the best of all worlds :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: throw in NetBSD pkgsrc collection on OSX and you're golden
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I wouldn't call that a package manager, though.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: brew
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Despite all the negativity I'm actually finding ChromeOS pretty decent for my daily use. Nice to get a new machine for $199 too.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where do your things go when you're offline?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm guessing it stores a local copy of the docs to accomplish the offline editing. I don't do much that doesn't require the internet though.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It has an image editor so I could edit locally stored pics.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the NSA proposed a "cheap" cloud (forget what they called it at the time - "cloud" had not been coined yet) based computer back in the late 90s when everyone was getting online.  of course, their motivatino was to see what you were doing.  Never got funded.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the chromebook is what the XO should've been
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Is there a setting in mush that captures and pastes color codes when you copy text from a window?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ctrl+D if you have AardMush.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Hrm, doesn't seem to be working for me
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Do you have the Aardmush installed? Are you highlighting the text, then pressing Ctrl+D? You should also be able to right-click and select copy with color, though I forget.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Oh no I was using normal copy paste, thought ctrl+d was a setting or something
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: And yes it's Aardmush
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-d instead of ctrl-c
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Gotcha
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Nifty, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in comm log you can right-click copy with or without colors
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Oh yes, awesome
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It pays to read what someone has said... ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: I read it all, it's just a matter of understanding
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ugh. I'm at wit's end. Can't connect to network on school laptop because of the Group Policy Client being corrupted (along with about 50 other files). Can't do repair install due to no Windows Product key. I /really/ don't want to take it to school IT. *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Put a linux usb stick in it?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And do what, exactly? I kind of need to use Windows because of the school programs loaded on it. :\
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: mud :p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm MUDding from my personal laptop... Heh.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah sorry, can't help if you have to be in the corrupted os
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Will the school not fix it for you?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh... they will... after I tell them what the new Administrator password is.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli scuffs his foot sheepishly on the ground.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he probably doesn't want the wait, or perhaps he's worry about them discovering his answer cheatsheat he's been making mint on.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli doesn't do well being told he can't change his desktop background to whatever he wants.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Plus, the school IT's way of fixing things is to wipe everything, start fresh. "I have no time to figure out what's wrong with your computer." is how he put it to everyone.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, they MAY after you tell them the new admin password...or they also may just not return it to you for breaching terms of use by accessing it and changing the admin password in the first place :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hey, nothing in our paperwork says, "You shall not hack your laptop in any way." :p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Besides, I'll just pawn it off on my brother, who spent time in prison for hacking anyway.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wait, Steve Hathaway, you do not play Aardwolf, right?! ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there a way to create an alias that uses two phrases (such as.... hmm, runto cp) in mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you need that as an alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: because cp is much shorter than typing campa
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, so use cp
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: so you want just type runto cp not, hmm, runto cp? that is just regular thing that mudlet does have
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: how, now that is for you to find out from helpfiles
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohk, but when I checked out how to make aliases I didn't see anything about two phrase ones, I'll look again, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to make it be 2 phrases
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias docp recall ; runto campaign
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: no, but I just like it that way
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: which is completely different from other things.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's actually what you should be doing for everything
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto isn't what you should use to get anywhere, when you're using a capable client
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: what abelinc means is make it enter (ofcourse you have aardamulet) then for 1 to 16 do docp;finish :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm really not a fan of mudlet, and I've had to wipe my hard drive so many times after creating aliases it's not worth it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto is a fallback...you should be making speedwalks to places, often by making an alias for that place...type lagoon to run to black lagoon, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't use mudlet, use mushclient which then makes it as easy as mapper goto 32614
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and save backups rather than recreating when you wipe your drive
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google drive, dropbox, etc will all keep that info safe no matter what client you use
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I tried running it in a sandbox, it wouldn't work under the more useful protective settings
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: dropbox :) i started using that when it came out, and now up to 21.9gb free space love it just wish they had support for xbox app like they di with sky dirve
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: plus, I don't believe that having it on my computer even to transfer to dropbox would be safe
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, skydrive is owned by microsoft...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you should remove gayporn from there bluebeetle. you can find that now that you came out
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does sandbox have to do with anything?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: nods so naturally  that makes sense 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm assuming that running it from a place that is not on your major hard drive will work in a way that is very similar to a sandbox
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli pats Nuanse on his head.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who said anything about running it anywhere
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first, those services all leave the files on your local hard drive and sync copies to their servers, second, I just said to use backups
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: if you are running it from skydrive or dropbox you are realy just running it on your computer, its not  like a sandbox at all
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I think you did
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I have another copy of mush in dropbox but its zipped
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope I didn't
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: oh well, I'm not about to run it anyway.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not about to run it, then why would you ask how to make aliases in it?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm not, I was asking about mudlet
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're not a fan of mudlet, you've wiped your hard drive doing who-knows-what, and you won't unzip mushclient...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not making much sense
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: which brings us to: functionAlias40 .. expected near part of the send part of the alias, but I can't find such a thing in the help files
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: It makes perfect sense
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Sure it does.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it makes sense to not use the right tool but to instead use the tool that you're not a fan of
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: agreed, doesn't make any sense, and why would you have to wipe your hard drive when using mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: nevermind got it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Or not - I just crashed mudlet
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What I don't really understand is why do you continue to use a product that you've already stated you do not like? Why not use MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Because I like mush even less
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Ok, I got closer to this two phrase alias working, it runs sort of, but it runs too many times - any ideas how to get it only to run once? I get an error about functionAlias40   but there's nothing about it in the help files
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: As in, it needs to be put somewhere in the send part of the alias, but I can't find where
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what in the world did you do? all you have to do is click aliases, click add, type a name for it, type "^runto cp$", and type "runto campaign"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: omg
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's still a silly thing to do :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I cant believe that
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: omg
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh, why do you dislike MUSH even more than you dislike Mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I have my reasons
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but now that it's done, save an export to somewhere not on your computer since you seem to avoid bothering to do anything properly because you bork your computer often
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm just curious, really. There's much more support for MUSH than there is Mudlet. MUSH would be my second choice if I weren't so hooked up on CMUD. :p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: sadly, runto campaign didn't fix it - I think it has to do with expandalias
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto campaign is what you wanted it to expand to...but runto only works when you're at recall or you have a runprefix set
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hmmm, good call
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have another alias which is then getting called by this one?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: right, so I am using expandalias in order to get that to happen, and then the send runto campaign, but it hm is there a way to limit how many times it will run?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to get what to happen?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why are you using expandalias?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: to get the alias using two phrases to work
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to do anything to get it to work
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from a fresh mudlet install, doing absolutely nothing except what I said in that one tech post, it works flawlessly
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: well it wasn't working before but I guess it was because I was using the actual directions rather than the runto? I don't know
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: expandalias is to expressly call a different alias than the one you typed...what are you doing?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Something wrong - I took out expandalias and just used the send and its working correctly
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you told us is that you want "runto cp" to send "runto campaign". That's what I gave you
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use send
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohk
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: maybe just type campa :p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stop trying to outsmart the program and just use it like it's meant to be used
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm not trying to outsmart it I'm just trying to get it to work with little knowledge or experience about how mudlet works.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the aliases window, when you click on that alias, there should be an Alias name...the pattern should be "^runto cp$" without the quotes...the substitution should be "runto campaign" without the quotes, and nothing should be in the big box
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're doing a simple substitution, no scripting, no anything
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: besides, I hate being manipulated and when its so obvious (esp this strategy, which is a rather good and working one, about being friendly to me, so I'm willing to go along with it) then it seems kind of insulting - really think I won't notice?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you should not be using any script commands at all
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm not, that I know of at least
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: manipulated? strategy? from your very first request I've been telling you that your idea for the alias is wrong, and that you're using the wrong tool for the job...wasn't exactly being sneaky there
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send is a script command, as is expandalias
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I'm finding this whole discussion incredibly difficult to follow.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Is there a SparkNotes version of this?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I realize that I'm using the wrong tool. But its really really hard to switch tools after such a long time. It takes time.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: In short: Since people have been nasty towards me for so long, it is going to take a long time for me to be less nasty.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, but you're trying to switch TO the wrong tool
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm not trying to switch to any tool.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Didn't realize you were such a victim.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well you've already said that you're not used to or experienced with mudlet...so that's a switch to a wrong tool
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: How is it being a victim? Simply because I'm not forgiving a year's worth of hurts and misery in a few days? And one of the few major things about it haven't even stopped?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I literally have no idea what you're talking about.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aurelia shrugs in response to Aizma's question.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: anyone know what the big text box below "pattern" and "substitution" does in mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Probably means that you can find someone or something else to do it.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Which I have, by the way, been saying for a while.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Hueit...: it is for sending things to the scripting engine instead of doing a simple alias
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: Is anyone familiar with adding combat sounds to the aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I can narrate for you if you call me on the phone
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: adding combat sounds would be the same as adding any other sounds...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I'm sure there's a better way, but I set up triggers, pasted the text I wanted a sound for, but didn't put any commands to execute.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you make a trigger, and go to the play sound section of the trigger definition
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I'm especially good with lasertag sound effects, if you're interested
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winklewinkle has a downloadable sound pack, but it's geared toward blind players
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: lol aizma
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc goes "Pew Pew Pew"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Well, that's about the entirety of my arsenal
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: blind people can play a MUD? 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Much more easily than a game with graphics, I'd imagine
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUDs are well-suited to blind people
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything is linear input/output
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: i guess you are right... just never heard of that.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have a few T9 players who are blind or VI
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Several who are mentally handicapped, too :)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: ok... I am going to try to figure out this trigger thing... I downloaded a sound package and extracted it to sounds/worlds folder... but not sure if that will do anything.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a great clip of a blind player taking a quest from a J-lo Radio show (webcast that Rezit used to run)...he has his speech synth cranked up soooo high it's sick to listen to
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: Well that means I am one of them.. lol
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you downloaded the WinkleWinkle one, his site says where to unzip it and gives you a command for it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (hint: you don't unzip it into the sounds directory)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: I tried this package https://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=Sound_Pack_(Unzip_into_Mushclient_Directory).zip
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, which says Unzip directly into the mushclient directory.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it also says that it will be putting .wav files into sounds and a .lua file into worlds\plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: yes... I unzipped it and merged it.... but I don't see the .lua.. just two folders came with that package... a "sounds" folder... and a "worlds" folder... which I unzipped.... there is a "plugins" folder inside of the "worlds" folder.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: everything should be in order.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: but no dice... tried the command sounddebug 1 to enable.. 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: hmm... says that file is supposed to be a "lua" in the worlds/plugin folder... but when you download it.. it is a ".xml" file... I am going to try to change the extension..
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: restarting client.. brb
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: hmm... no dice on that either.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, his instructions are deficient, after unzipping, you must go to file -> plugins, click add and add winklewinkle_sound_pack
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hah... well, I finally fixed the GPClient issue with my student laptop. The downside? I was misled into thinking service packs did not need the Windows Product Key. So now... I have to go to IT and say, "Hey, I don't know what happened here, but... my Windows is not activated anymore."
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. I wonder if I might be able to find a Windows 7 Professional product key without having to go to the school IT and making up some crock of a story...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sure... lemme give you Abelincs
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't you just buy one?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine only works on the Microsoft Partner windows 7 downloads
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: For the school laptop? Why would I?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I was just under the strict impression that "upgrading" a service pack wouldn't require it, but apparently it does.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It was the only thing I could find that could fix my group policy editor issue.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But unfortunately, it deactivated Windows 7 Pro in the process.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And since it's a school key, they didn't put it on the laptop in the form of a sticker anyway. *sigh* Oh! I wonder if my old desktop was Pro or not...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, no dice.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah, there we go. All is right in the world and my school's IT will never know about this. :D
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there a way to limit a search with the mapper find command to the area you are in
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thought there was mapper find area <number> or something. mapper help doesn't tell you?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: it might but i'm not seeing it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you type "mapper help", it gives you categories...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 6th one listed is "mapper help searching"...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the first syntax in that help is what you're looking for
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok thank you i see
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm. I think I need to upgrade my plugins. lol. I mean, I know the answer, but mapper help searching doesn't exist for me =p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "checkversion"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh, I know its out of date abe. I just haven't bothered
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, checkversion would tell you how out of date :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it just says i'm using r1557 =p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: there a n00b guide to making gmcp plugins anywhere?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: which client
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki has one
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: muchclient.  i am having trouble getting started, looking for a super simple example, for just grabbing a tick even
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the wiki, click client protocols, click gmcp, click the mushclient GMCP page
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: already there abe.. I just cant figure out how to get any gmcp data to hit my plugin. im even looking through the plugins the aardclient of mush comes with and im still missing it :\
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that has an example function for your plugin...change the one line from if (text == "char.stats".... to if (text == "comm.tick") and you can delete the part where it's grabbing the char's info cuz for tick all you care about is that it fired
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that function IS how you get the data to hit your plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all GMCP data comes in through one plugin...that plugin "broadcasts" it to all other plugins, as long as you tell those plugins to listen for the broadcast
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: can you apply that to simple triggers per say without having to make them plugins just curious
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: having that function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text) function, where it has that if (id == '3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264') which is the GMCP plugin's ID tells it to listen
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a trigger will not be notified of a plugin's broadcast, so the trigger wouldn't be triggered by anything
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drakoth: some of my plugins may be a better place for you to look for a barebones "just access GMCP" example
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine are all pretty much one-trick ponies, so the non-miniwin ones are pretty simple
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: thanks Abe.. that really helps.  I get what you are saying
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i guess i dont really want a triger per say, but i can have the function be my 'trigger' once it sees a broadcast of a certain type
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, the plugin will trigger on the matching GMCP
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as it has that one OnPluginBroadcast function defined in it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need the subsequent stuff on that page for the tick since there's no actual info in a tick message, just "I ticked"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I ticked, therefore I am.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: (going to do whatever you have in the action part of the triggeR)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text) if (id == '3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264') then if (text == "comm.tick") then Note("Hey, I ticked") end end end
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: literally, that's all your plugin needs, other than the plugin XML header and close
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the Note() to whatever you want it to do
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I suppose I should update my first couple plugins to switch from statmon to GMCP...the autoprac plugin senses ticks using option102 instead of GMCP's option200
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: got interupted by the gq but i got it workin well, thanks again abe :)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, gratz :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: I was just looking at mud clients for the iPad... anyone have any luck with them? are they similar to the Android? I have mush client on my comp, but I still prefer my phone with buttons and such... 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best thing to do on a portable device is to use it to connect to a real MUD client running on a computer
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a few MUD clients for iphone/ipad and android, but they're all inferior to computer clients
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: huh... I see the capabilities on my computer but I'm cool with my phone. lol 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: can someone help me. i wanna use the telnet to play but dl the file on my mac n it said it cant unzip it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what file?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: mcclient
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to telnet on a Mac, just open up Terminal.app and type "telnet <what you want to telnet to>"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mcclient is ancient, and it's not needed when you use a real MUD client
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: so how do i even open telnet on mac..
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: just start out n dont know much
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Terminal.app...it's in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gives you unix shell access to your Mac...telnet is a unix command
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you shouldn't use telnet to access Aard
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the aardwolf MUSHclient package instead
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: so where can i get that please
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click client download
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and look at http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: ok will give that a try :D  thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: How do I set up an alias, client side, to run to an area using mapper? I have tried several ways and either get 'that is not a command' or nothing.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: ok, thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so alias lagoon, action of mapper goto 30549, send to execute for an alias that goes to black lagoon
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: thank you, thank you. too easy for you but I could not figure it out. woohoo it works
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: there a command-line reconnect command I can use on mush? like #reconnect for zmud?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just hit enter?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well yeah, but that's if I'm offline
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: how about when I'm already connected?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: theres ctrl+k ctrl+shift+k.. but nto quite what you wanted, if you're trying to script it
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: not scripting it.. I mean I literally just want to be able to type "#reconnect" or whatever
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: but if the shotcut works, that's fine
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: just hit ctrl+shift+k to disconnect, and ctrl+k to reconnect then
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, you want to dc then reconnect? It is covered with scripting functions world.Disconnect() and world.Connect() - fairly simple to alias send to script
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or if your'e still able to interact with the mud, can just quit, and reconnect as well
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm having trouble assigning directions to my numberpad keys in Mudlet - any suggestions? The macro seems to be set up right, I have no errors on it but when I use the key nothing happens. I've tried it with both numlock on and off
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aurelia peers around herself intently.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: could anyone suggest working quest info script for mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: hmmm my return key for my mac is broken... is there a way to create a keybind using ~z as the return key
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: a pc keyboard costs about $10 - cant you buy another keyboard for your mac?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: googled: http://lifehacker.com/5882684/the-best-keyboard-remapper-for-mac-os-x
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Does AFK work on mac?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Whoops, I meant AHK
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: thanks trachx
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: thanks trachx
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: oops.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: is there a way to disable the internal mac keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: pocket knife
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: preferably one of the swiss army variety
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: When I try to alias two semicolons together it saves it as a single semicolon.  Is there any way around this?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try 4
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: put 4 of them
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The note
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ack
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Mind if I ask why?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that said, what are you trying to do? it turning 2 into 1 is how it should work to make them work properly
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The client parses 1 as a separation, 2 as a literal semi colon.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I'm making aliases for cexits :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then you want 2 of them, when it executes the cexit it will separate them.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, so you want to use only 2 and you want it to turn that into 1
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper cexit op n;n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper cexit op n;;n, rather as you'll enter it
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you look at the alias, you only want to see one ;
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it tells you to make it by using two BECAUSE it'll turn it into the [proper] one
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: That doesn't work for me.  Maybe due to the fact I'm using a plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Enter 2 of them, it'll show 1, and when you actually use the cexit it'll work
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone's using plugins, cexits are part of a plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Okay I saved the alias and it is showing correctly, but when I try to use it I get That is not a command?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is your alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: mn
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is it set to?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: mapper cexit open n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 2 of them
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: mapper cexit open n;n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotcha, you're not using an alias in a cexit, you're using an alias to create cexits...
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I did I just forgot to add another when I was typing the message lol
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so 2 things, yes, in the alias's definition, double the ;...and use the drop-down to select send to execute
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: which drop down?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: He's using the cline methinks, abe
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phuriee: go to game -> configure -> aliases
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open that alias
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: okay what next?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the only drop-down on that screen
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that what is in the huge part of that window is "mapper cexit open n ;; n"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Now I'm getting CEXIT Failed: Custom Exit open w
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use double semicolon between commands
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like mapper cexit open w;;w
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The cexit has to move you somewhere for it to work :P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The cexit has to move you somewhere for it to work :P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I did and it does move, but only after the check fails :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: if I type it in then looks the same and confirms.  It is like the check is failing and then the actions are taken.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: and you're doing 2 semi colons, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you do only 1, the cexit just sees "open west" not "open west;w"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Yes I'm doing two 
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you lagging
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What is the exact command you're entering? (Remember to double the ;s even if there's already 2)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: the command is mapper cexit open n;;n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The exact command you should be sending is "mapper cexit open w;;w", is that what you're doing?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that is what you see when you go to game -> configure -> aliases and double-click "mn"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: should I try changing the send to back to world?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that won't work
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're setting this from an alias, then you need to quadruple the ;s.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ;;;;;;
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: No I went to where Abelinc told me and made the alias there :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Sorry about all the trouble I thought this would be a simple thing :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it is, we just don't know your setup. If you have multiple levels of execution, sometimes it takes some trail and error to get the right number of doubling of ;s
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: looking at it right now it looks like it tries to excute it before it is sent to world if that helps
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: So it starts the check the commands look right the check fails and then I move correctly in the world
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, if you go to room in question and type "mapper cexit op w;;w" in your input bar and press enter, does it work?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ie, not done through an alias or anything, just straight from your command line to the mud.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: If I do it in the command line it comes back with "That is not a command"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Huh? You're sure you typed it right?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper cexit op w;;w
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Yes it is even correct in my alias list
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: dumb question but are you sure you are using Mushclient with the mapper plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In other cases it printed out the 'wait while exit is confirmed' message, so i know he has it
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Yes if I type in the command normally it works fine :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now, explain to me EXACTLY how you're trying to execute that isn't working
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Is it coming from an alias, a trigger, what exactly are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Okay I'm typing "alias mn mapper cexit open n;;n" in the command line.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: #alias {mn} {mapper cexit n;;op n}
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: err op n;n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's all you have to do
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you cannot use "alias mn mapper blah blah" because that's making an alias in aardwolf, not in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the mapper cexit command is in MUSHclient and not in aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: so I type it just like the example from Cheezburger?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Copy and paste what i entered and it'll work perfectly.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except with the reversed open and north
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: starting at the # and ending at the final }
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that too :P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: #alias {mn} {mapper cexit op n;;n}
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just a thought on my part, better to use full commands as people will alias 1 and 2 letter words and not realize they just broke an alias
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: That did it, but I'd sure like to understand why :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Bast I will keep that in mind thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: alias (without the #) is a MUD-side command, with the # it becomes a MUSH directive.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The #alias {} {} syntax just makes it easier to add aliases from the command line. So doing it that way was the same as going to Game -> Configure -> Aliases -> Add, Match: mn, Send: op n <enter> n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: LOL that looks exactly like the alias Abelinc had me do except it put it in a group
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The one you made for abe, is the `Send To` set to "Execute"?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if it's set to anything else, it won't work.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: The only difference at all is the group
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No, it's not
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The group won't affect anything, something else has to be different.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I'm going to find a different door and see what happens :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I see my mistake now.  Very sorry for trouble as usual the problem was between the keyboard and the chair :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what was it so we know what to ask the next guy to check?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: PEBKAC errors are always fun ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: When I went the way you told me I was still using double 
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: double ::
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should have still been double ;; when using the GUI to make the alias
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: No because I wasn't using #alias just alias :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, just using alias won't work no matter how you do the ;s
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Yeah I get it now.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I was trying to use an aardwolf alias to send a mushclient command which doesn't work so well :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Thanks for the help and I apologize again for the oops
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: if you know nothing about lua is it hard to adapt a plugin so it will appear in its own miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, just steal code
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, and what plugin are you talking about
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just took the map miniwin code and formatted it for my first miniwim
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: miniwin*
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes, because in order to do the task you want you also have to learn the code language.  That's double the work, or more if something goes wrong and you have to figure out what.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, I don't know jack in Lua but have multiple miniwin plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: The answer you seek lies within
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: the plugin is called gear written by Moshu 
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do have to be able to logic things out, but you don't need Lua experience
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Once you know your first language it's all syntax from there anyways.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does that plugin already have a non-mini-window and you want to convert that to the miniwin format, or is there currently no "output" to it?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a miniwindow for eq, http://bastmush.googlecode.com
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: It already has an output I just want it in it's own window :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: adding the click functionality that moshu uses is difficult to translate into a miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you don't know anything about miniwindows
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: What is life without a few challenges :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at my board, scan or planes plugins to see how to make a miniwin that adheres to Fiendish's "front/back/reset" stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, for clicking stuff, the only plugin I have using hyperlinks is an lbid one, but that's putting a hyperlink into main output which opens a miniwin on click
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, my eq miniwindow can be sorted by level, can be filtered by eq type, can be clicked to do various actions like wear, id, etc..
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've never made clickable miniwin, other than Fiendish's framework giving the right-click menu stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, throw that in with the eqdb and you should be set for eq stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Bast how do I stop it from identifying everything I mouse over?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: left click the M->Toggle->Show Identify Window on Mouseover
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Bast now how do I stop it from showing me the identify lol
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Just curious. I assume, so correct me if I am wrong, that Aardwolf has some database component. Does it use SQL Server, or Oracle, or something else?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mysql
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SQL server is a microsoft windows program, Oracle is a rather expensive commercial option
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just clarifying, you DID mean Aardwolf, right, not MUSH? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard MUSHclient package uses sqlite
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nods, MUSH uses SQLite.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is a flat-file-based database which is good to embed into things
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Think Aard will swap to mariadb? I know nothing about db's just heard the mariadb news.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would they
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what aard uses works, so why change?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't know, that's why I ask. Does mariadb have anything to offer Aard mysql doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mariadb is for of mysql
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's good for mariahdb to exist going forward, but a lot of the news is kneejerk and not based in reality
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: fork
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I love that Monty, who owned mysql as a corporation, sold it to Sun/Oracle, and now is like "Whoa, now it's owned by a corporation, what if they go evil!!!"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mysql had never been a community-owned project...nothing fundamentally changed with the Sun/Oracle purchase
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: any cmud users using the sql .item() syntax to set a field value?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, how do I get unix du command to just display sizes of directories and not the files within?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: du -h -s dirname
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I want to see the sizes of each directory under my home dir
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: du -h --max-depth=1 . # Also useful for "how big are all the directories in this one?"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Ahh, yeah, try the max-depth thing then.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the -s is what makes it not go down into the directory...the -h is for it to say M, G, etc instead of big numbers
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Nod. I just do -h by default now, for my own sanity.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just du -sh /home/me/*
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: oh yeah I always use -h
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: i like it when she goes down my directory.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: --max-depth seems to work
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: du -sh * works too just includes files in the home dir as well
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have .aliases file with du aliased to du -sh, and ls aliased to ls -la (color options depending on system)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that's what I use to find drive hogs
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although if you want to sort, then you don't want to use -h
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I just grep 'M'
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, guess you don't have any Gs then
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nah, 200mb limit on this shell account
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'd love to switch from this shell account to a decent VPS but I haven't found a cost comparable solution with quite the same cpu or network connection. Testing all done by "feel" so far.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, http://sdf.org/?tutorials/metaarray
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Lord, 200GB
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not a VPS, just an account on their servers, but at $36/year with full cron, proxy, mysql, etc available, it's nice :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for VPS I use Panix
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I do nightly rsync of the whole VPS to the sdf account for a nice backup :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Awesome, I'm going to read up on both.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know of the Lua equivalent of eval in similar languages? To be more precise, is there a way to pass in a string such as "if true then\nif not false then Execute('foobar') end end" and have it evaluate?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how can a condition be not-false and not-true?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That was just an example
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: quantum physics
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't concerned with the actual contents of the string :P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: eternity
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just want to know how to execute a string as a function
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Are you saying that foobar is a variable that you want to contain a function of your choosing via script?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what language-that's-not-lua are you looking to do this in?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He wants to do it in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He's just comparing it to 'eval' in other languages.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Where Execute(GetVariable('foobar')) will re-evaluate it, it won't evaluate it as a script, so can't contain any Lua code.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not just return a function of it?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: doString is what I was looking for.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh, forgot about doString.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.. totally preference question here.. large PC display for general purpose use/gaming.. Projector? Or LCD TV.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I have my pagesize set to 40, but I don't get page breaks in mudlet - is there any way to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is there a reason SetTimerOption(...,"second",...) would only work for "every interval" but not for "at specific time"?  using "hour" and "minute" works for both, but using "second" only works with an interval.. the help text implies it should (despite a typo of "hour" in the version i have)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't understand, I don't see a blue letter when I improve a skill or spell
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mt
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in SQL, can I omit the SET section to have the entire record updated or do I have to list every field if I wish to update the entire thing?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to find the help files for search and destroy gui?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ww help <-- winkles s&d help
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thank, just forgot what command it was :D
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forunner Tech: hallo
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Anyone able to recommend me a good web hosting service?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: you can try Wix I think, its free
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Thanks, I'll take a look
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: no prob. if you don't like that you can take a look at Weebly, or was it weeble?  its one of the two :)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: How well would a Samsung Galaxy 10.1 Tablet run aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not at all unless it has an arm version
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Ty :)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: AHAHAHA... AHAHA...continues. http://blog.willbenton.com/wp-content/uploads//2008/11/bug-finder.pdf
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Haha.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Nice bids by "KurtG" and "GeorgeCantor" by the by
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Proving that SOME people did at least read the problem.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Indeed - I would almost pay the $1k to see what was produced by the 'highly experienced coders' though...
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Is there a way to check to make sure if make an alias it doesn't break something else?  Like I want to make a alias named "port", but I'm not sure if that is already used by the game.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type port. If nothing show upu it's not in use by the game. (I think - Hope)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: In general it is hard to promise a command won't be used by anything in the future, or if it is used to trigger a mobprog or goal somewhere currently. Try adding a set of characters or a symbol to the front of your aliases to make them unique? So that they are not words.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Good ideal thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: believe Jaenelle, not me
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle is bad and has a bunch of aliases that are words. :P 'hotel' :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Or just wait and see if they break something or something doesn't work, and then change them. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: most of my aliasses start with \
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use longer words or small strings 
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: be hardcore: alias 'enter' to c 'teleport'
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its c 'translocate' not c teleport ... get it right
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does hotel go to aardhotel, orlando or royale? }:>
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: teleport is more fun
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: translocate isn't hardcore
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: You could always try Goforastrollonthewestbeach for west
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: can't run to aard hotel
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I should spam teleport to 100% now that I can survive anywhere it'd land me :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't run there but you can have an alias that goes there
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Abelinc: it seems to just send the 'enter' command and go to the aardhotel. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, quicker to type ent (actually quicker to type "en", but I have that aliased to not do anything)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I think it is old and leftover from before the portal wish and I'm so used to typing it that it was difficult to change. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too many intended e, n situations where I ended up entering my portal and having to run back, so alias en echo type more slowly
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: hehe, I have en aliased to east :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I think most of my mudside aliases are common typo problems.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: All of my runto aliases start with an = sign, helps avoid typos
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my mudside alias all i have is gelp==help
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: I also use aliases as function calls in trigger scripts, e.g. SW--AARDHOTEL is unlikely to be typed on its own and when called it takes me to the hotel.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I appear to have 49 mudside aliases. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of my MUDside aliases:
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: testalias           :  one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty twenty-one twenty-two twenty-three twenty-four twenty-five twenty-six twenty-seven twenty-eight twenty-nine thirty thirty-one thirty-two thirty-three thirty-four thirty-five thirty-six thirty-seven thirty-eight thirty-nine forty forty-one forty-two forty-three forty-four forty-five forty-six forty-seven forty-eight forty-nine fifty fifty-one fifty-two fifty-three fifty-four fifty-five fifty-six fifty-seven fifty-eight fifty-nine sixty sixty-one sixty-two sixty-three sixty-four sixty-five sixty-six sixty-seven sixty-eight sixty-nine seventy seventy-one seventy-two seventy-three seventy-four seventy-five seventy-six seventy-seven seventy-eight seventy-nine eighty eighty-one eighty-two eighty-three eighty-four eighty-five eighty-six eighty-seven eighty-eight eighty-nine ninety ninety-one ninety-two ninety-three ninety-four ninety-five ninety-six ninety-
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ban
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: Heh :)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias actually ends in ninety-seven ninety
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone was wondering how long an aard alias could be...the answer: longer than you should need ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: alias Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirupes but that's going a bit too far, don't you think?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have a clientside alias: thisisalongaliasthatdoesnothingitsjustaplaceholderforinfofromanotheraliaswhileimworkingonit
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And the point of that is what, to determine the max length of an alias definition? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no its just to hold the data for my alias' im working on when im coding new sceiprs/re-writting in lua
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rigaldo Tech: can i change the color(or rather the background image) of the aardwolf mush client somehow?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I called godaddy and got mine halved because I was torn between them and fatcow at 1.99/mo
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sounds like someone is changing his TV lineup
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How does that in any way, lead to the assumption of TV related things? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it was a stretch
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: just about to say same :)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: well, go to godaddy.com...what do they do? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ok.. here's the logic - and I ain't saying it's GOOD logic.....
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And there's all the context you need :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: maybe cuz godaddy has tv commercials approximately every 3.2 seconds??
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: first... I missed the "godaddy" reference.  my mind proccessed it as god-daddy (the .com would have changed that)...  so I assumed that must be what the kids are calling something these days....
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: then... the 'fatcow' reference I assumed was slang for "madow" and in "Rachel Madow" which is a TV show...
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and then there was a $$$ reference, which led me to think there was a change in subscription prices coming... all in all.. TV was the only thing that made sense.  given a limited amount of information
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: of course, now I know different.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Since Rigaldo is a level 1 character with no rankings, I'm going to guess it's either a new player that will never be here again, or it was an alt created just to ask a question...for the first, nothing to do about it...for the second, maybe they'll see this answer on their main...http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ has an FAQ entry for that question...either way, here's the info so someone else can help answer next time it comes up ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and what was the question?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc types "tech -h rigaldo"
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: thanks. i was already checking the boards.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it was asked on a board, I'd answer on the board...
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: nice try, but we know that was your alt and now you're cleverly trying to throw suspicion from you
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now regarding hanslanda's earlier question, I'm confused...without the set section, how is it going to know what you want the record updated to contain? You don't need to list every field, just fields for which you want an entry other than the default (whether an express default, an identity increment or NULL)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i thought set needs all fields but update does not
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: set is part of update, neither needs all fields...update rooms set name='newname' where uid=12345 will work fine
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (provided the rooms table has name and uid fields, no matter how many other fields it also has)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have always used UPDATE table (blagh,blagh) VALUES (blagh, blagh) so i dont use other ways that often
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when a replacement area comes in, I do set UID = UID+1111000000 where roomzoneshort = 'oldshortname'
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that lets me do things like "/oldroomname spinning in the storm" to give me the result | 2048 | Spinning in the Storm | Floating in Space |
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: I'm using mushclient and I can't figure out how to set a trigger for sounds.  What do I put in the trigger section?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: put the line you want it to trigger on, then go down to the lower right side of the dialog box and select whatever sound file you want to play
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: If I put the word level in the trigger will it beep every time the mud sends me the word level?  It beeps when I click test.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that might be a bit of a pain
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: after I can get it to start working, I'll just set it to global quests, I'm using info level to test it.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: there's a trick to choosing just the right line of output for audio triggers
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ksprite Tech: i need help with alias and semi colons
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: use two to get one in alias ;
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MUSHclient aliases, just hit enter in the huge box rather than using semicolons
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ksprite Tech: thank you :D
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: i have an item that every time i use it gives an Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. I have had that happen once before and someone told me how to fix by reloading a plugin, but, i can't remember which one it is. can anyone remind me, please?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tepey, try eqdb or miniwin_eq
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: i did both already, didn't help.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: I think there's also a broadcast invmon or something to that effect, if you haven't tried that one.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: i don't have that one
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Could be remembering wrong.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: ok, so it ended up i had to refresh eqdb after finding/sorting all the stuff in my bags. thanks for all the help.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a way in cmud to turn on like night mode?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: yeah, sure
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: well, if he doesn't have the portal he can't get out that way
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: which is basically what I wanted to say
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: erh, mis * 3
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: sorry can't solve for mis without more info... what does mis * 3 equal?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I'll probably tell you on another channel
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The mystery of the misthreey?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: DNS is broken - any way to work around that?  
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: if you mean your local dns then use a different dns server
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: if you are referring to a more significant dns problem then that depends on the problem
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: My ISP's DNS - which ever they have us using - I am mudding just fine, but unable to access any web pages
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you at home or work?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I assumed it was a DNS issue. .might be someting else, though
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: home
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ISP says it'll be fixed by this evening
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: they acknowlege the problem
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: then try changing the DNS server on your computer to 8.8.8.8 which is google's public dns server
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Has anyone ever had an issue where output from their ssh session would freeze up temporarily but they were still able to send commands?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: all the time
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But I have Comcast.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Another odd part of it is that it only happens when I'm on wifi and I can see the commands being input on my directly connected machine, since I'm connected to the same tmux session on both machines.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: sp whats beat iphone app for mudding now im on issh
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: iMud was pretty bug free.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If I have telnetd running on my machine, could it accept a connection from blowtorch, for example?   Assuming port forwarding, etc.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: clients basically stop at the port they're supposed to be listening at.  From there, your router takes control to entire traffic from port X makes to port Y, at which point the Internet assumes control to make sure it gets to where it's supposed to (and even if it doesn't, there's not a darn thing you can do about it).
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I guess my question was more, what protocol does blowtorch use to connect, and if I have a process listening at the specified port using that protocol, would I then be able to connect via my full client on that machine?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I assume that since Blowtorch is a telnet client it would use telnet.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, it's a mud client, I just couldn't find anything about what protocol it uses to connect.  If it's telnet, that's fine, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: your router should be handling the port forwarding, though, so there shouldn't be need for any extra doodads to make it work.  Set up Blowtorch to connect to your computer, set up the computer to connect to your game (using the port that gets forwarded, not the one you're forwarding to).
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay im looking to lowercase a string then capitalize the first letter, how would i go about doing this?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In what language?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: he uses mush
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my GF wants to build/learn to program a "robot" she is looking at kits to do it, anyone have a suggestion for a good kit for that kind of thing?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: LEGO Mindstorms?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: she was looking at that one
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Remarto: To lowercase something in Lua, do string.lower(param). To make the first letter uppercase, use: string.gsub("^%l", string.upper))
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm having trouble setting up keypad keys in mudlet. When I look at it under navigation, it seems like everything should work - the name and pattern are the direction and the keybinding is keypad+2, entered by the key bind/press button thing, but it doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: ugh. Mudlet is quirky about that.
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: the folder that has the keypad settings though, under navigation has a lock symbol on it, does that have anything to do with it? is it possible to reset the keypad entries?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: I never was able to get it figured out enough to make it useable, to be honest
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I've tried with and without numlock
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: boo
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Just decided to use MUSH through wine
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: just easier
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: i thought that was for linux or mac or something?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Ah, I see the issue. I used mudlet on linux, and assumed :P
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm sorry, I wasn't specific
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Is it possible to add new macros to the macro list on mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Like if we have a keyboard extension, and want F13 :)
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but we don't have a keyboard extention with f13
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: perhaps can do it with accelerators, but don't think you can change that list.
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: lots of gaming keyboards do
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yeah? wow learning something new here.
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: alright, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: they'll have anywhere from 6-18 more keys
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: guess I should start playing games
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't one offer a lot more than that?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: gaming hardware is nice, but kind of overkill for mudding
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: now, for FPS or RPGs...
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: MMOs in general...that's where those extra keys make so much difference
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: gotta get those 12 extra keys on the mouse
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I'm happy with 4 extra keys on my mouse, don't need more than that
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: but I don't use my mouse to mud
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I have never needed extra keys on mouse or keyboard for any game I play. I only play RPG maybe that differs
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: you don't need the extra keys
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: I never used more than a basic keyboard for mmos. >.>
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: some would day you were doing it wrong
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: say*
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: you don't NEED them for the other games, but they make some things easier. For example, on EVE, I'm often fleet commander and need to be calling commands on Teamspeak, so having a mouse key bound as my push-to-talk lets me be able to be selecting and tagging as I'm talking and calling targets
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: you could take push-to-talk off I suppose
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I don't want voice-active...sometimes I might be swearing under my breath at some idiot on comms. I don't want them to hear that.
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ahh got it. I actually never play my games with others. I guess I'm fine with my standard thingies
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: or I might want to be having a convo on Skype (voice always-on) and have my TS on push-to-talk
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: well if you're running two voip programs I suppose it helps
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: There are also days when a nerve pinch makes one hand or the other nearly impossible to use, but I still have to be training FCs...so I have two different setups that I can use to play EVE with just my right or left hand, in addition to my normal profile
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok guys hi i have a question about a trigger firing an alias in MUSH, how do i get a trigger to execute an alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i have a alias for quest request (home;n;quest request;) then a trigger fires from area name: (enter;d;runto %1) BUT if i wanted it to trigger another alias ('planes') takes me to the planes areas with appropriate switching and entering of portals...
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i guess my question is, is it possible to have a alias function as a trigger whilst it's an alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: 0h 5
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whoever invented css/the box model should be shot
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: a bit harsh
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not really, it's horrid
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (quickly tallied the numbers from the CIA's World Factbook, and only 56.35% of the world population is Christian, Jewish, or Muslim)
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav slams his head on his desk in frustration.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Why do I mis debate to tech?  Some screw is lose in the brain...
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: mis debate .. heh
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i hate jquery, what a pile of dross
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Better than trying to write cross-browser javascript without any sort of support.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I really hope after HTML5 goes mainstream javascript dies in a fire.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Though of course now we have mobile browsing and webkit...
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: html5 is largely dependant on js
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's nothing wrong with javascript
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I don't mind javascript at all, as a language.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only all this new fangled bollocks they stack on top of it that people then force you to use because it's trendy and new
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, jquery!
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: although the new fangled bollocks is mostly to make the language half-way usable
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mostly by adding in 20 year old techniques taken from lisp
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so not that new, more old fangled
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my web programming training ran from 1995-2004, it's new fangled
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: jstl is cutting edge for me
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: 9 years training to use the web? that's a long one
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it wasn't really 9 years, did some bits early on as part of an unrelated course, then did it in anger for the last 3 years
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there was (un)gainful employment sandwiched between
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and there we go, all this bs because jquery ui does not update the state of the ui when the underlying input state is changed
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what a load of bs
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: .refresh()
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The DOM won't change once loaded, refresh the div content.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Sometimes .trigger('create') works too
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i will happily castrate whomever put jquery ui requirement into the spec
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nods, it's too much overhead for so little gain IMHO
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'd prefer to use backbone or sencha personally
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what is the best way to connect to a remote MYSql DB with lua? right now with zscript i use ODBC but i want to get away from that, its kinda laggy
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thielith Tech: how do I turn off the {chan ch=tech} tags that are showing up?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thielith Tech: ah nice, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: trying to pick a python webframework, looking at django, turbogears, and web2py.  anyone familiar with them?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: all except web2py, what specificically are you wanting to do with it?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I personally prefer Django.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: ya, I love django.  I'm doing a crm that will also manage accounts in a financial services server...so security is pretty important.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I've had really good luck using nginx -> gunicorn -> flask on a Django server. Really flexible and API driven. While still very secure.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: watch out for cdork!
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: with django, I'm very comfortable scripting tools that work against the webapp backend, is turbogears as easy/powerfully exposed?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: everything I'm reading when I look at comparisons online is really crouched in alot of cover-my-butt bs.  seems people aren't comfy saying X is better than Y at Z.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not as easily, but a bit more powerfully IMO
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In other words, it takes a lot more setting up, but afterwards is very easily overloaded
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: can you explain what you mean by powefully?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ^ :P
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: sorry, I don't mean accessing gears's code...I mean code I've written to run in gears.  Like I develop an app 'accountChecks' how easily can I script against the methods in accountChecks?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: personally, though, I prefer to work /with/ the backend as much as possible. Take more energy to swim upstream :P
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Oh...
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's about the same for either platform
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: so what I'm getting from here matching my reading - they're basically the same in terms of what they can do and how hard it is to do it.  the differences are more matters of flavour/style?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Essentially
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They're build very similarly, just by different people :P
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there some kind of piece of equipment that receives a wireless signal and then switches it to an ethernet connection? Sort of a backwards router I guess?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: And what is it called?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tethering ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: that only works with phones though right?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Wait, specifically to ethernet? I don't know of anything like that tbh
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I hink you mean access point
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: other than a repeater
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Femtocell?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Used for acting as a psuedo cell tower, connected to your broadband.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Is that what you're asking for? :)
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Or maybe just an access point, if you're not talking cell wireless :P
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm not sure.. I'm looking for something to receive an existing wireless signal but then have me be able to conn I guess that wouldn't do anything
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what kind of wireless signal? WiFi? CB ? GSM?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Wifi
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: A repeater does that...
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: repeater - sure if on other end there is co-repeater
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Oh, you're talking a repeater bridge, I think...
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: otherwise you need access point 
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Connects to your existing wi-fi router via wifi, gives you ethernet connections on the other end.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I use such a thing for the components in my home theater.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Personally using some cheap Rosewill routers on each end of the wireless link, with open firmware from DD-WRT
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Is this what you're trying to do? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/images/3/3a/Standard_bridge_large.jpg
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Okay, some router brands out of the box will allow you to do the wireless bridge configuration, but not all.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But wireless bridging would be the feature you're shopping for.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thanks, I really appreciate that
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: And must be supported by the routers at both sides.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Not a problem at all, glad to help.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Now back to my evil piracy.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Right now I'm using a wifi connection directly out of my modem, it sounds like I'd have to get a router or piece for that end too
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Yeah, that you would. I picked up a couple of routers on sale for about $15/each and loaded DD-WRT on them.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I got 'em on sale, but picked up Rosewill RNX-N150RT from Newegg. Current price $24.99.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'll check it out
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Everytime I quit aardmush it tells me that world variables have changed do I wish to save aardwolf.mcl what does it mean? is there a way to make it do something by default?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ctrl+s :P
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what variables? really what is it doing?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: does it do it to all users? or have I somehow adjusted something?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont see that
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: must be I am special
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there a way to get page break to work in mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you mean by page break?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: With large lists like inventory you can use pagesize to have the output split after a certain amount of lines, but it doesn't work for mudlet
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mudlet does an automatic screen split when you scroll up (with the scrollbar or using pgup), so you see current stuff on bottom and the scrolled up stuff on top
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what exactly do you mean by "it doesn't work"?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Right, I was just wondering if there was a way to have it work with pagebreak instead of scrolling
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohhh
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Any Salesforce.com users about?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what is the best way to connect to a remote MYSql DB with lua? right now with zscript i use ODBC but i want to get away from that, its kinda laggy
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A remote db is ALWAYS going to be laggy
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: First question when dealing with a remote db - does it *have* to be remote?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its between 5-10 seconds, and yes, its the DB for the boot website
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: can anyone suggest a decent camera/camcorder for under 200$?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: As someone who sells them for a living, if you pay under $200 for a camcorder that isn't 2nd hand, you are getting a POS
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: that being said, he'll give you a great deal on one, just look for the white van around back, knock three times, then twice, then four times....
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Though, that is AU prices, idk how caught up we are on US - see what you can get the Sony CX190 for over your way
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i can get a refurbished for 150 off newegg, a new for 350 lol
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sorry 250
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then the prices are a little more expensive than here, that one's $220 new here
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: then im thinking about just going with a new camera
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Is there an easy to way capture the ID of an item as it's given to me?  I'm using the Aardwolf Mushclient with Basts plugins.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's plugin already captures the item's ID as it's given to you
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what broadcast_invmon does
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so go to bast's page, to the wiki, click bast's plugins, broadcast_invmon...that page tells plugin authors how to access the data it broadcasts
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: where can i find a reporter plugin? that reports amount of qu per quest and skill improvments?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how do i put the following into a triger sothat it wil report the qp amount to a channel?    A HUGE RED DRAGON tells you 'As a reward, I am giving you 17 quest points and 2812 gold.'
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: why would you think we want to know how much qp you receive?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i ment like gt...
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: For quest rewards, I can definitely say that a GMCP trigger is simpler than a text match...
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: anyone know how to get two commands to work on the in game alias setup? when trying to setup the alias it saves the first command but the second one goes to the game directly. 
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: use double semi colons
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: tried that but it still executed the second command in game instead of saving it as part of the alias. 
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: try "alias twocommands firstcommand;;secondcommand"
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or you can try ";alias manycommands first;second;third;fourth"
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: I'll try that
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: here my example "alias hp get jade bag
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: here my example "alias hp get jade bag
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: grr
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: then its supposed to quaf the jade
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: are you using the MUSHclient setup?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: I use mush on my home PC, but currently I'm on a mobile client. 
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The double ; and leading ; are mush things - which mobile client are you on?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: pocket mud for iOS. 
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: I think on tech Let me check my aliases ont he mobile...
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: Does it allow you todrop to a new line f you press "enter" when working on your alias? That's how I did mine, both on MUSH and on the mobile.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: I'll try. not sure if it'll work
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: nope. :/
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's making a MUDside alias, so he's not in an alias definition window
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: correct.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: sorry... missed that.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just fired up pocketmud to test, it turns out it eats all ;s, regardless of intention, with no way around it in the main window...
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You have the option of inclient aliases, but it looks like for now multiline mudside won't work for you :-(
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: pewp
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tried slashes and tildes as escape?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: yup. Also googled - turns out some peeps on TMS had similar issues
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Looks like it's in active development though, you could submit a scathing review and see if it gets changed?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: thanks for the help though. :)
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ugh. Spend how long digging through code only to see gmcp quest isn't consistent between targ and target...
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Aardmush:  Is there a way to add 'right click' functions?  e.g. Right click on a players name and be able to select 'whois %%1', or clicking on an inventory item and being able to select 'c id %%1'.  This was a handy zMud feature.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that'd probably have to be done by Fiendish or Bast
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K.. I'm not so swift at 'creation', but I'm a heck of a 'user'
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh ffs... now time and timer aren't consistent :-( Silly gmcp
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jingga Tech: in creating alias for attack or cast spell a target, what symbol is use for the target and appreciate if you can give example too
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that depends on what client you are using... what client are you using?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jingga Tech: aardwolf musch
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here is the one I use (compliments of Norton).  I have no idea how it works, but it does.....
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ^ll(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: there are boobs?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: where "ll" is the aliase
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: those would be some pretty ate up boobs
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so I type 'll Jingga', and then Jingga is dead.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: Has anyone here (Firefox users, mainly) tried Waterfox?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope, but it looks interesting
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my ff setup is very slow. loads of addons, custom ui, userscripts etc
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: dat bloat
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i got a ssd recently, so i'm not bothered any more
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: besides, i don't never shut it down anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: restarting firefox is a regular need though
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that memory leak
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Laughing Airmeith.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not a memory leak, it's a feature
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: SSD is nice, I agree.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's not a leak, it's a pool :P
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: Actually, having to restart FF is why I'm considering WF.  There is an issue in FF where tabs stop scrolling and it is annoying.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can change the settings to reduce it, but why would you? i have ram in the machine so apps would use it
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But why allow one app to bogart it? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, ff uptime 5 days. ca 30 tabs open. 420MB of ram used
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: but they still shouldn't snag all of it
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it doesn't. i don't think you understand how memory management works
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, I think that I do ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: uptime 3h, 4 tabs open, mem usage 282K
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it'll spike up to 1.3MB within 24h
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: on my machine, that is. THAT is unacceptable.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Which FF you using, Air?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you live in 1996?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Mine never gets quite that bad, and I leave it running for about a week (before corparate updates force a shutdown)
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Usually 10+ tabs :P
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it says 20.0.1
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm running 20.0 still
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, chrome also eats tons of ram with web apps
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Chrome eats more with tabs, not so much due to a leak
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it's nicer for most people who don't use addons to customize their web experience
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, i haven't noticed a leak. ram usage goes up to 1 gig sometimes, but i do have a ton of tabs and stuff open when it happens. most of it is page cache
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are some things i don't like tho. i'd switch to chrome if i got vertical tabs and a few other plugins would be as awesome as on ff
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: is there an ignore line command in musch when creating a standard alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there anything besides the connect/reconnect line from the mud that is sent when you login and only when you login?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Quests being available via gmcp just makes me feel spoiled when it comes to coding for campaigns and gqs :-(
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: maybe you shouldnt be coding for gq/cps ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so I got a new ide HHD and when I plug it in the pc picks it up in bios but when I run it as slave my pc won't go past the win 7 logo..any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Did you just say new and ide in the same sentence? :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ...you know what I ment
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I did?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ..how do I get it to work on my pc?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm confused... did you mean ide or didn't you?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I ment I got a new as in just bought ide HHD
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you understand that ide is a method of connecting hard disks that hasnt been in use for years?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: unless you've a very old PC there isnt much chance your computer will support that type anymore
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I don't even know that ide would have the bandwidth to load windows 7...
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: you do realize that noa used my pc to count the animals on the arc right?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: then your computer should have an IDE cable inside that you can connect the hard disk to
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you will have to configure the jumpers on the back of the hard disk to make sure its either master or slave depending on what the other device on the cable is
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ...it is connected...if I connect it with my current one it doesent load past win 7 logo
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/bios-recognizes-ide-hard-drives-windows-7/dee5c9f9-e8e1-4662-98eb-f4fc79c54b5a
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just throw the drive out. there's no reason for you to use one
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: when i plug a sata HDD into my pc my pc is like...hahahahah you want me to read that?...NO!
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If your PC won't take SATA and won't take IDE, you have the choice of SCSI or a new mobo...
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: avoiding the fact you honestly probably need a new computer - did you configure the jumpers correctly on the new hard disk?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it does run ide...i curently have a ide HDD but i want to add anothere this is where the problem comes in
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: is it on the primary or secondary channel? do you have an IDE cdrom/dvd as well?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i dono...it looks right :D
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: wtf are you running win7 on ide? You will get better results from XP, for sure
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i had exp and it crashed so i only had win 7 to install so yah :)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: how many ide cables are there inside your computer?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: 2 the 1 is running my current HDD and my dvd-r and the other on the other HDD
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: and your computer boots without the second hard disk connected but fails to start if you connect it?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm no IDE meister, but should the slave drive not be on the same rail as the primary?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: the drive actually new or second hand/
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: new
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yes, THAT Neeper sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: does the new hard drive have a label on the back near the jumpers that tell you what the different configurations
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: are8
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: the jumpers are  between the power socket and the ide socket
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it does...curently my main HDD has no jumper set to it
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no jumpers means cable select
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but seriously - throw that rig out
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: sure :) give me a new one and I will
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This is the same rig which is open to the elements, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pay for the shipping and i'll do that
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: cool ill pay it
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: where do you live?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nah I closed it after last chat :)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: south africa :)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is good :D Don't want you getting electrocuted
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: heh sorry, router died
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: what setting are the jumpers on currently for the new disk?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yah...anyway..I have no idea how to set the jumpers...and to make it worce...I have a grand total of 1 jumper :P
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: thats fine, jumpers are a set of 6 or 8 pins, you need to put the jumper across the right two pins to tell the hard disk what mode to operate in
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: looks like cable select
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: ide hard disks typically have a label to show the different configs
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: can you see which two pins indicate master?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: second shutting down :P
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. the fedex would be ca 300 euros. you should get a new one for that money
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: not around here you wont
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: heh just had a look, i can't' even buy IDE hard disks at my supplier anymore
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: single or master is no jumper
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cable select, otherwise known as cable random guess and get it wrong
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: cool, rip that jumper out of there
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: there whasent one in there :P
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you said it was on cable select?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: the second hdd yes the main has no jumper
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: All I can get are IDE HDD to USB cables or docks
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: thats a thought, this pc on or off? :)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so on the new hdd no jumper is master jumper in the middle is master with slave present slave is second last pin
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: and its the only thing connected on that cable?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: sorry my new isp's internet router is flakey i keep getting kicked off
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: well I'm going to connect both hdd's on the same cable now
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Increase idle timeouts... they always get shipped with pisspoor timeouts, all countries, all isps, pretty much without fail.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: er ok? good luck
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not where i live, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I find it funny that windows installation takes 5 actual minutes to drop 1 min on the installation time
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its wasn't a question...it was a statement
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj is 35 today
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: haha!
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm already 35, woops
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 35? hmmm I sem to recall I was that age too once.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a reason blackberry desctop softwear won't install in windows xp sp3?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so... I have an aliase that has to parts - the first part is a world command - the second is an execute.  I have the alias set to 'execute', but I need to delay the 'execute' part till after the world even is complete (a recall - about 1 sec)... otherwise, the execute command first IMMEDIATLY after the world command is sent to the mud, and conditions are not set for it to so what it needs to do....  I need a 1,500ms delay.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you need to use the doafter function
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurz Tech: how do I make the timer for making cexits longer?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurz Tech: nvm, found it.  mapper cexit_wait 
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: anyone familiar with nick gammons consider window script?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anybody familiar with macbooks having really poor wireless range?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's a "macbook"?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did not know mac and cheese had wireless
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so i bought mym wife a macbook air.  but it seems to have ultra poor wireless range.  ancient PC laptops have no issues at all.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: AHHH!  I actually now this one... it's the antenne... ultra small for the ultra small notebook
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: no it doesn't. I have no issues with any of mine.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: something abotu not enough room for insulation between it, and the screen, so they wrapped it around the bottom, instead of around the screen like in a conventional notebook
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not fingin anything on google, though... probobly old new... or just plain false.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: first time i've ever bought an apple product.. for my wife... i think this puppy is going back
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ask the Apple Genius to check the laptop
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here it is:  http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1289884
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: couple years old.. might still be relevent
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: False. Airs in generally seem to have rather excellent wifi connection
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Thats what I said - I've never had problems with any of mine so far.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah i was more referring to von. Or at least, rather it being a design flaw.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: any ideas what this message might be referring to. I also suffer from some pretty shoddy wi-fi reception on a laptop that is like 5 feet from the router. Message I received from a quick troubleshoot: Your computer appears to be correctly configured, but the device or resource (DNS server) is not responding
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea i see numerous reports of MBA poor wireless issues
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: will try a few of their suggestions.  apple products are such absurdly overpriced for the specs, i hope my wife gets annoyed and sends it back
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol. Well, do what you like. If wireless is your main concern, and it meets her needs, you might look at the Chrome Pixel
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.google.com/intl/en_us/chrome/devices/chromebook-pixel/ 
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If an air does, I suspect so shall that
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But, maybe not.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I wish they had made the pixel convertible style.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No way.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hardware wise those things are perfect. And convertible hinges are... well. Not.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Without the sketchy hinge the pricey touch screen isn't going to get utilized nearly as much, imo.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That.. I totally agree with. I don't see a benefit in making it touch, unless they're going to make a tablet device using the same screen.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: think I'll just send it back and keep her on a PC.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They just enabled a on screen touch keyboard for it in one of the dev releases as well.. which.. is odd considering its a laptop with a full keyboard
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Which makes me feel even more like it's a pricey testing ground for future stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe so. They are very solid devices, for what they are though. I'm tempted to pick one up for myself, if not one of the lower end chromebooks to play with
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I just decided to experiment with the $199 version
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: the acer c7
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: how do you like it?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It does the 2 things I need very well. (ssh / browser)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's fast and responsive and stable even on the dev version.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cool cool. I know theres supposed to be some nice RDP plugins and such for it as well
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's upgradable to a ssd and extra ram, can't recall exactly how much, above the default 2.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I thought they were all integrated smaller SSDs
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Not this one, strangely it's got a 320gb hd in it
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, looks like its just the C7. odd
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oo. They're selling the HP model now
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's a very minimalistic and configuration-free UI. I wish they'd give on that principle a little.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/hp-pavilion-chromebook.html#specs
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh this thing is tiny too. 11.6" so the keyobard took a while to get used to and they made some modifications to to it I'm not crazy about and cause issues in some CLI programs.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: kind of the downside to the smaller devices.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: this HP one looks to be reasonable standard kb to me.. but im bad with that
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I do not see ram listed in the specs. Am I blind?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I do not see it either.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: cnet says 2gb, 4gb max
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I like the home/end/pg up/down key placememnt better on that keyboard
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I wish they would've used a modifier key plus function keys for the shortcuts instead of hijacking the entire top row for OS stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair. Or maybe add it on a capslock/numlock style toggle
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: They'd do well to implement pinch/zoom on the touchpad
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Not that ctl++ is that hard to type
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I just figure they're going to start putting this on tabletish stuff sooner or later
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Seems to be the way it's going. Though, I wonder if they're not passing on pinch to zoom on the trackpad due to fear of apple litigation.. I knew they had issues when they added it to android on the touchscreen
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle sighs.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Who invented the wheel again?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No clue.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And didn't say I agreed with it - but just idle thought on why they might not have done it
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nod I understood, it's just depressingly counterproductive.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You know I could also go for a lot more command line tools in the shell. It's embarrasingly limited. You can hack it and even install full ubuntu if you want, but just some more unix commands by default would make a huge difference.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: on the chromebook you mean?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: For instance I want to do some benchmarks before/after upgrading the RAM and the SSD, think I'm going to find an chrome extension in the webstore for that? :p
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'll have to switch it to developer mode/wipe and boot ubuntu to do them and it won't be nearly as accurate with unity running and all that ubuntu bloat.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But, $217 out the door so what can you really say.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod i suppose. Plus i dont think theyre really for the type of people that is likely to benchmark their own system
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: err... my map window seems to have uhm... condensed somehow
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Scroll wheel?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: minimap or graphical map?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ah.. no scroll wheel, but I do have a slider on my laptop
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and that must have done it :) tahnks
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: thanks too
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's zoomable
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The map is zoomable, and as far back as it can go it looks like it all decided to have a party in a single pixel :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and that is pretty damn cool besides... definitely using the function goiung foward
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: meh... can't type tonight it seems
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: my mush is not storing every time all aliases what i have changed, should i push some save button or somethig else?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what is microsoft.NET framework 2.0 SP1?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: One more thing to download because there is no package manager on windows?!
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there is and .net is included. at least in w7
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: because I installed windows xp SP3 as instructed but now my blackberry desctop softwear won't install
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is a package manager in W7 that handles dependencies automatically? Cool.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: missing .net? just download the runtime
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows-side, yeah. there's the windows features tool
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but third party soft doesn't really come with many deps. it's usually either java or .net
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So I could just ask it to get me e.g. a C compiler or open office, or something, and it downloads it and dependencies automatically?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: when it comes to software it's really hard to compare those two. apples and oranges. the approach is radically different
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so how do I fix my prob? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i told you - get .net. that's what it's asking for, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'll take that as a no, then.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, ranrr. it's about windows features only. not third party software
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use ninite. it's a nice tool for basic installs and resembles a package manager
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but like i said - apples and oranges. altho i wouldn't mind getting win apps from repos
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm spoiled with just having to do e.g. apt-get install perl5, so whenever I am forced to install stuff on windows, it feels very primitive.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you insist you could use wget-analogue in cmd and launch the installer with the necessary flags :P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That requires me to know the URL, and to have the dependencies in advance.... so it would defeat the purpose.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, apt-get suck. real men use aptitude ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are no deps tho
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They say so, but I have not found a single case where it makes a difference.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, .net is a dep, for example, for a lot of stuff.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, you might have to install it once if you do a stripped down install. they're usually bundled already
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in w7 you might have to fill a checkbox if you want a legacy version
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The reason that there are few dependencies for third party stuff is that there is no package manager, so each program has to bundle all its dependencies.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. they usually throw is a couple of dlls in the installer
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but still - apples and oranges
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: while i like aptitude a lot, it wouldn't make sense on windows because of the application ecosystem
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, btw, i just remembered that w8 comes with an abomination called windows store or something
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's an package manager with a central repo
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: abomination is right
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but windows rt was doa and there's nothing to get from there
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my friend got a surface from work. nice piece of hardware, but the software sucks hard
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lets hope windows blue delivers
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, I guess a package manager with a central repo works best for free software, which it seems a lot of windows users don't use a lot of.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oops, that was a weird sentence.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hopefully they're sticking with the classic awful/awesome tick/tock release cycle
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, and false as well
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oh. Windows users use a lot of free software?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only non-free apps i'm running right now are skype, foobar2k and zmud
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is foobar2k?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess I'm mostly familiar with business users.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are few other closed source apps, but most are open source
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: foobar2k is the best music player out there
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: firefox, skype, steam, aardmush, ts3, mediamonkey, evemon, google docs... none paid.  Photoshop/Lightroom are my paid ones beyond my gaming.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, most feature rich and awesome at least. definitely not the easiest to set up
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: many are closed-source, but not paid apps
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not like that. we're talking about free as in open source
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, by free I meant libre, open source, free. Not just gratis.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i would ditch skype if bitlbee had decent support for it
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Although I'd like to see closed source and paid apps in a package manager controlled system as well, to simplify updates.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, yeah, i hate the updates on windows
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: some do it well (chrome), some suck royally (java)
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: It's not that easy to find good free games for windows, unfortunately...and most of the best-developed voip and graphics software isn't open-source either :p
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Java updates.... *shudder*
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i nuked java long time ago. don't need it for anything since libreoffice was forked and they removed most of their java code
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What's hard with that? Never done that on windows, but on linux it's a breeze.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not hard. it's just annoying and bad
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: constant notifications, need to restart and the best bit - it prompts you to install ask toolbar
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah. That's just windows, then. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like, WTF?!
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, that friggin toolbar request every damn time
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's like oracle doesn't have money and has to support java installs with ads. just boggles my mind
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oracle is the bugbear of software
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hell, even ms brand of java wasn't as annoying
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They are definitely more evil than sun was.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: sun wasnt evil
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in the hindsight sun was all about puppies and nice things
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's what I said.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: killed openoffice, made java unbearable
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Open office is dead?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it seems they bought sun just to piss off people
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not dead per se. more like undead
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: OpenOffice is....owned by Oracle now. Most of the people who were working on OpenOffice that didn't like what Oracle was doing are now working on LibreOffice
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oracle started messing with the community, community forked libre, oracle just let openoffice die without signing away the rights and now dumped it on apache foundation
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the developers are long gone. they're just playing pretend right now
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, in that case openoffice is dead, agreed. I use libreoffice, as does everyone else.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: happened just because oracle was being a massive ponce
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, fortunately it was open source, so it could be forked.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: "if i can't have it, nobody will"
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yep, except that I've gone over to Google Docs now for easier sharing between diversely located team members
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've been quietly migrating to google drive tho. i don't do much text processing or spreadsheets anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts shivers uncomfortably.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that too, airmeith
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont use dropbox or google drive but what i dont understand is when i have seen dropbox its like 30 megabytes! why is it so big?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I mostly use google docs nowadays too. Or LaTex, if I want nice looking documents.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: spent a week working with Brits on writing a training doc that needs to be accessible by people worldwide, and the Brits and I have two other docs that we need to maintain for our notes on trainees and such... far easier when I'm in Tennessee
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: dropbox-1.4.7-1pclos2012.i586.rpm is 28M, makes me wonder what its really doing inside
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that'll be all the snoopware
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: drawing chemtrails in the sky and notifying the reptiloids about your daily business of course
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: exactly!
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gotta have code to alert the feds as to what's in it
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's the law
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: really? have you even considered the fact that it's cloud storage and they don't need to bundle anything in the installer?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but hey, paranoia prevails. altho they probably have to cooperate when subpoenaed
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they're yanks, they'll be foreced to
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: at least with google drive you *know* they are indexing everything you upload :)
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and google publishes government requests
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/government/
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 0 ever from my country
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: where can i find a whole bunch of free source code on different types of programs?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The internet. Can you be more specific?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: ok...i want a website
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: please
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You want to use xhtml and css only, or you want SSI, or Javascript, or PHP, or HTML5, or JSP, or ASP.NET?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You want a forum, or a shopping website, or an aggregator?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: so there is no website that keeps the most used libraries of all the most used languages for study? because i want to look at previous source code for an election / "winning party" program for ideas on algorhithms, or to see if there probably isnt going to be that much work in it.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The 'most used libraries' are often proprietary, and are covered by patents and copyrights, so you won't find them open source without digging quite deep, if at all. And most code repos are smart enough to limit their scope to a particular theme, so as to better service users, rather than spamming them with every scrap of code under the sun.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you want algorithms, then what you want really has nothing at all to do with the languages in question: good algorithms are by their very nature far more universal than that
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yes i know algorithms make code work not the other way around
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So why are you looking for libraries if you want an algorithm?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: i thought i might be able to specificly hit the jackpot and find an election program with algorithms, code and all.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: in whatever language, it doesnt matter.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is not a library, that is an application... it would probably use libraries, but a library it is not.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: i know...but would i not be able to search through the libraries?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are asking questions without the knowledge to understand the answers. A library would be something like graphics handling, or a maths module, or some other generic thing. An 'election program' would use libraries like these, but it would not be anywhere near generic enough to warrant becoming a library in and of itself.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yes i am not a pro at this,i am at my second year of studying I.T. at school(last year) and were learning a dead programming language (Delphi) that is why i am asking and i knew i messed up my question somewhere. so let me ask this, is it possible for me to get hold of code that could help me construct a program similar to that is used in voting machines?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: we are*
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: delphi, isnt that pascal?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: .*facepalm* think about how it would work, and write it out in lpain tet what you would need then go looking for code
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: plain text*
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: do you mean pseudo code?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: As much as it seems like I am helping someone cheat on their homework, you could try looking through the source code for http://www.openstv.org/ - that said, the actual voting machines are very much proprietary and closed source.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is quite simple programming, really - the hard part isn't the voting, it is the securities against cheating, and the timely and secure communication of results.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: electric voting machines are dodgy as hell, they should go back to paper ballots
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes Tiggr, we all know you hate the vote cheating conspiracy that is the electronic vote. Not the point here.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as long as you make clear that conspiracy is merely more than one person colluding to achieve a goal
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it goes on, it has been proven to go on
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: thank you, but its not cheating in the first of the project requires that find existing software, list it and try to improve it
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: first phase of 3*
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: was voting your choice?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Are you limited to voting software? Because your teacher is a bit of a hardass if so :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is agreeing with that Captain HR Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: voting apps should be restricted to those pointless opinion-getting polls on websites that have no scientific value whatsoever
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Still not the point
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is agreeing with that Captain HR Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is the point, then?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you were more concerned with reading the discussion and less concerned with derailing based on a trigger topic you have an interest in you would know already...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: helping this one find some poor code to improve, using pascal
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yeah unfortunately so. there are only 7 of us in the class. Everyone from grade 10 up refuses to take I.T. because of its difficulty. here in south africa, when code spams screens..people pull out the battery or power supply..lol
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: pascal is so simple...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pascal? did we step through a door into 1992?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Remarto, Delphi is pascal with objects, and in my limited experience it handles them poorly
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, so your teacher selected vote machines to improve, but didn't give you a lead on where to find existing vote machine software?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think i swapped from delphi to lazarus as my handler
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yes pascal is simple, because you guys know fortran and cobol.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: um i learned pascal at school in I.T aswell, but not in SA
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Sounds to me like  you should be searching news articles or security white papers for known faulty software. Then you not only have a shot at the code but the known problems and known solutions.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds like an extraordinarily vague briefg
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: brief*
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pascal is simple, it is a procedural language much like any other. Delphi crashed and burned because it jumped on OOP too late and in too complicated a fashion.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Still, iirc you can ignore the OOP part of Delphi, and just use Pascal without too much trouble
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: what do you mean 'complicated a fashion'? the classes and object usage isnt too bad, or is it that other stuff is just better?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: biggest single flaw of electronic voting machines is not so much the core voting software, but the access that low-level plebs have to tamper with the vote
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto sighs.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I mean its syntax was far less intuitive than you might find in one of its contemporaries, like Java/C++ or even VB
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: oh... ok.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its mainly knowing what you want to do then finding the syntax to do it i found
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is all programming ever is, Remarto :-P That and understanding wtf you wrote the day before, and why it isn't working now
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ugh i hate debugging
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: strongly typed and structured languages make debugging much easier since it won't let you make so many mistakes
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: also,many times im given a project where i am forced to create a class and a couple functions for the project. But the task is so small. what should i make what classes should i make and when must i do them, or does it even matter when a class is made?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: my teacher sucks ass at explaining anything.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Learning to build small fundamental classes is the key to being able to develop larger applications
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: the difference between a function can only spit receive on argument then spit out one value after processing it. if this true for all languages?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: nevermind that i said the difference just now
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: a function can only spit receive on argument then spit out one value after processing it. if this true for all languages?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: i am asking if this is true for all languages?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: are you asking if functions can only receive one argument and spit out only 1?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: 1 value, yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i have had functions spit out more than one value
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: thought only procedures can do that..
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: mmmm
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: functions often have zero to many arguments but usually only return one value
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Function and procedure are synonyms, with languages tending towards one term or the other, but the effect being the same
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Realistically speaking only scripting languages return more than one variable natively, though the effect can be simulated by returning an array/pointer, or an object.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thats probably what i was thinking of
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Lua, for example, can have the construction "a, b, c = getThreeReturnVariables()"
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Python does something similar.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i only dabble so i wouldnt know :P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: typically procedures dont return a value and functions do, but some languages dont force that distinction (dont ask me which ones)
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: ive never tried ussing a function to stuff an array..
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wut? Elkore, a procedure and a function are the same thing. 100% identical, just different languages use different idioms for classification...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A function which doesn't specifiy a return variable still returns null
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: the usual distinction is that a procedure does not return a value
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is agreeing with that Captain HR Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: depends on programming language, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think this has all gon way off topic anyway :P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dranix Tech: hello, I am using MushClient, and lately it has been unable to connecto Aardwolf automatically as it used to do. I have to play around with the MUD address and port only then I can connect each time. Can someone please help me? 
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you "play around with it", have you gone to file and told it to save?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dranix Tech: No I didn't. Do I do that at 'Save World Details'? 
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dranix Tech: Just did. Will try to reconnect. Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dranix Tech: okay it worked. Thank you! And another question, each time I close MushClient, 'world internal variables (only) have changed' comes out. Do I save as prompted? 
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dranix Tech: alright. Thank you! 
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: can someone give me a quick rundown on how to write a small script to move with shift+w for an example
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm using mudlet and I'm trying to assign navigation keys to the keypad, but after I add them and I get them kind of working, instead of sending one direction it doubles it
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: It seems to be grabbing what should be sent from the command line, but when I take the text out of the larger box it won't run. But if I leave something in the command line then I get it giving two directions instead of one
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Or, if its something mudside, that would be great to know just so I don't drive myself nuts trying to get it to work
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: check ALIAS to see if you have one that matches what's getting sent.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: beyond that, Aard doesn't care at all what you send it.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: One of my macros for movement is set up exactly the same as the others, but I'm still getting a double command even though there are no other commands using that key - any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's the object command for Bast's quest window?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: hi is there a aardwolf client for smartphone or windows phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not mushclient
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but there are various apps that can connect to muds
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: theres actually a customized version of blowtorch for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: like :)?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's blowtorch for android
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: where can I download it?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: search on the market
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: actually i think searching for aardwolf should bring it up
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its not on windows phones though
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: aw ok ,should I just search for blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you still haven't said what os you're on
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: said a windows smart phone
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh, i thought he was asking for smartphones generally, eg windows
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ok a app for nokia lumia
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justintyme Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, in all fairness you said smartphone or windows phone
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: unfortunately idk of any mudclients for windows phones :/
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: its kinda both
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can try getting a telnet like app though
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: any for smartphone
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it's a windows phone star. A windows phone is a smart phone. A smart phone is not a windows phone.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: a vast majority of smart phones are running either Android or iOS
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ok I get it ill try 
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can try this: http://tinyurl.com/dyz8hmg
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyone know why my printer always goes offline and doesn't work =(
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I have to keep reinstalling it to get it in online again
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: faulty drivers? maybe
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: how does one typically set a printer back to online?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: Does it switch off, or just stop printing?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the printer works fine after it's just been installed
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it works fine until I switch off my computer, when I turn my computer back on the printer is in offline mode according to windows 7
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the only way I can figure out of getting the printer back in online mode is to reinstall it every time
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the actual printer itself is fine I think, just windows 7 perceiving it to be offline
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: well, I don't know much about printers, but you can go to controll panel, Devices and printers, Right-click your printer, and it should give you the option to Enable it again, if not. then I'm sorry I can't be of more help
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm there already but can't see any option to re-enable, that's what's baffling me I guess
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: you could also google your printer name followed by your problem and try to find a solution
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: - h10
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: and if your restart your printer it doesn't work either?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no, I did google search, and it seems other people have exact same problem and I don't see solution
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: Hmm, it could be the printer itself
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: or the drivers it came with is faulty
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's HP C6100, feels so ridiculous re-installing it every time
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: what if you switch off printer before computer?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: maybe - next time I need to user printer I will try turning it on first
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: that could be it
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: maybe, You never know
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, perhaps it checks for the printer at startup but won't detect it after that
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: perhaps, if it does work. don't forget to tell the other troubled users
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well even if it does work, it's clearly not a solution to the problem
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: yes, but it would be a workaround untill a solution is found
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how to check what is using my data in windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to view all the variable currently assigned in Aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: not really--you can view variables you've created, but that doesn't help with the ones in the scripts
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. it's the ones in the scripts I was after
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: do assigned variables exist in a file anywhere, or are they just held in memory?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: so the mush bigmap window can be zoomed... is there a way to scroll side to side or up/down?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: would someone happen to know that the name of the variable used for the target in the search and destroy plugin is?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: look at the plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I did... It was sort of overwhelming.  I guess I'll did thru it some more... Can you perhaps tell me what the syntax is for a variable in a script is?  so I at least know I'm looking at a variable?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tabrune Tech: Hello, I was wondering where to get started on creating my own levels?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have you checked out 'help building'?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tabrune Tech: Yes, i've looked on the website aswell. I'm pretty new to muds but I love coding and making things. Do I need a program of some sort?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No.  As per the helpfile: "We can not take areas created with any offline ROM area creator (such as MZF, etc).  Aardwolf does not use the standard ROM 2.4 area format.  All building must be done online on the test port."
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have to be approved first.  Once approved, the builder-corralling IMM will get you set up with the resources you need.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tabrune Tech: Okay, where can I build online then? 
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: help builder
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Need to apply and be approved first.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And meet the requirements
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: which are also in the helpfile
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: help ports to get the login info for testport.  You won't at all have access to anything you don't have access to here (aside from a few tester-related stuff for testing convenience).
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there are also rules and customary procedures for operating in testport, too, so don't think you'll be able to get a leg up on the main port.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how would one determine combat rounds via messaging?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: look for the line with Your in it?look
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: and []
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wouldn't it be better to work off the target health line (blah has some very nasty wounds, etc)?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: gmcp tells you what your current status is (e.g. fighting)
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how about off battle prompt
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, or do you mean when each round comes?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wanted to explore formatting possibilities outside of the DAMAGE verb.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I ultimately want to change around how combat gets displayed to me, but I haven't decided on what to do yet.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i just changed it to 2 lines dmg taken and dmg delt with # rounds of combat
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how are you figuring out how many rounds, though?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s272/sh/64a0811c-849d-4f12-a43e-5744581e6910/47f22d054c7c09d46d341fdc8fd88771
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it's technically delayed and after the prompt - but it works for me
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrael Tech: is anyone else having problems with the mxit Aardwolf RPG client where the keyboard is either mapped incorrectly or slightly off so I hit l and get k?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: would anyone perchance know the name of the variable assigned to the target mob for search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: The S4 is a good device just that Smart scroll isn't working
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: would anyone happen to know the name of the variable assigned to 'short name' for search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't you just open the plugin in notepad and search for it?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that'd be a great suggestion, Hans... and I did... but I didn't really know what I was looking at... I can identify the radiator of a car 99 times out of 100, but these scripts are alien to me
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to display all the variable loaded in memory for aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is the tesla model S worth it?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i know there are some palo alto script kids or connecticutt wall st. hippies on here
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, the Tesla is basically a giant cellphone with wheels and a steering wheel.
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does that mean it will give me cancer?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, battery won't last nearly that long.
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: grae are you there
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I still haven't run ESET.  I just got back and keep forgetting.  then i will hand out trivia pointz
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why didn't you think to code Puzzles and Dragons?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: On MUSH, im trying to make a simple trigger from a line of text, if the line text is in a different color would that effect what I need for the trigger line?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no but it might affect
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: only if you're trying to match on a certain color
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's options for that in the trigger editor
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Im not, not sure why i cant get it to fire.. thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: just fired meh.. thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if it just fired, then you wrote it wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I wasnt patient enough for it to occur
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Below the flare, you hear Dabbil scream 'HEAR ME FOR I HAVE CONQUERED!'
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so how do i get in on this hearthstone beta?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/04/26/how-to-sign-up-for-the-hearthstone-beta/
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm using mudlet with the aard extension. My cps are shown in the quest area, however when I request a quest the target doesn't show up, only notification that I can quest, completion and the mccp bonus. Any idea as to how to get the quest info into that window?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ok so one of these miniwindows is somehow stuck up under the toolbar and I can't move it around now... right click won't work either to pull it to front
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: so it's just stuck there pissing me off
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: search & destroy gui?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: have you tried rebooting your computer?  
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: funny Vamp :p
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: type xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: known issue I see
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: nice.. thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: yeah that line is going on notes :)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: I appear to be experienceing a rather strange issue, im using the latest official release of MUSH and I have no triggers set up currently yet every tick with echocommand toggled on i am seeing 'pick data' entered and the respons from the server is 'you did not find a data' any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have an alias for either "p" or "prompt" to "pick"
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: even without typing anything?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the client is trying to verify what your prompt is set to
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it sends "p data" on older versions, and "prompt data" in newer versions
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: i just unaliased p from pick data and now it shows 'you entered:: p data'
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: i mean unaliased p from 'pick'
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: aha seems to have stopped
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: was getting very irritating lol
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a way to see how much gamma radiation it takes to be unhealthy?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelloMudda Korridel Tech: That's not exactly a tech question, Vampiredude.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: google?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: ugh... what's the better browser overall right now? firefox or chrome?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: Chrome
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: opera
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: IE !!
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I used to be a FF nut... but eventually Chrome came out on top
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Lynx
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i keep getting this odd error in IE that says -- If you are seeing this page, it is likely that you need to reboot your computer (and router, if you are on a home network) to regain  your Internet connectivity. Your connectivity should be returned  to normal at that time. -- my ISP says it's malware
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: What's strange then?  It's clearly malware.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Take normal malware-removal steps.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Continue with life.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: can you get your hands on something like super anti spyware?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: or is this your only computer and you cant use the browser at all?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: just dont use norton, its a virus in itself
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: anything lightweight that only runs when you ask it to.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: well my ISP autoloads McAfee and I have Spybot S&D as a backup
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: malwarebytes
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mcafree stoped steam from working when it was removed :(
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: only now the only things on my browser i can access are my bookmarks (and only the ones i have saved into my Lastpass account)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i can't even access www.google.com, www.yahoo.com or anything else generic
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: do you have a smartphone?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: no, my phone does have web access but it's kinda a dumb phone :P
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: Combofix
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: go find it and run it :p
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: do you have a email program, not browser based?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i wish ... i ony use my yahoo or hotmail :/
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: my tech support said to stop using IE and load Chrome or Firefox into the PC and use that as my primary browser from now on since i don't have the drivers to fix IE
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: hahaha... Chrome
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught enthusiastically high-fives Princess Vanellope!
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: but i don't like google :(
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mushambo gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: get opera then its a good one
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: that's ok, I don't like Disney, but Iron Man 3 is still so awesome!
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: hmm... isn't opera that icky mac broswer though?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its not a mac browser as far as im aware
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i thought they used Firefox
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: Hah. That's Safari.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: meh :( i thought i had my computer all nice and safe and this happens. 
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i never used chrome before though... anything goofy about it i need to know?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: works fine
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: sometimes there are sites you'll still need IE for
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: meh :/
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: but it's rare
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: haven't seen one of those non-IE compatible sites in years
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I have
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: unless you mean SAP-stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: didnt know any more existed
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've seen a few non-IE compatible sites... they're getting more common, I think.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are some pages that require compatibility mode
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: yeah.. you see it sounds odd, but not everyone's life experience is the same as yours
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: well... anyone have any suggestions for my mcafee/spybot S&D setup too? is there anything better than spybot for catching the malware mcafee misses?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i found avira works quite well
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I've been able to use Chrome for years without any problem what so ever so it can't be that common.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've ran into a few "IE-Only" sites.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: for me it was a manufacturer that had online cataloging for parts.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: my job has an IE-only site ... but that's because our IT guy owns stock in microsoft and won't budge :/
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: full system virus scans take too long... poopie :(
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: that's still common though, many intranets are stuck with IE-dependencies
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: What Elfeneri said - I doubt it's due to him having "stock" in Microsoft.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if he's really putting a small personal interest over his company's, that sounds like a firing offence...
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: that's our running joke with him... although i think he does own like 10 share of stock
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: additional log on information required.... meh, stupid errors. i don't have any log on information for my browser >.<
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: oh hey i can access google ..
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Does anyone have suggestions for a good site to start learning how to make mushclient plugins? Something that would help with connecting them to gmcp would be even better. I've looked at the aard gmcp wikki site and it looks like a good reference, but I need something a little more beginner style to even get started. I'm used to tintin++/old zmud style of scripting, so I"m pretty much starting from scratch
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: try asking Bast? he does alot of them
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: if you wanna stick to tintin you can ask Ixle... he's like a tintin demigod :/
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: (got paid to say that)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: haha, well I"m trying to convert fully to mushclient to use the mapper and other things. But there are things I want to do for screen reader purposes that gmcp would be good for, if I can just wrap my head around it. Thanks, guys
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i'm going to try to install Chrome
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: and it doesn't wanna download :/
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try opera
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: IE got all weird on me again :(
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Any java guys with TCP/UDP experience care to help me debug why my server object is only recieving the first message?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what you mean only first ?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use to wireshark what messages are exchanged between client/ server
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If I do a out.write() (out being my OutputSteamWriter ther server will get the first message, but if I try and send another, the server sees nothing. I think my thread that's running my Runnable server implementation is dying out.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does write flush buffers ?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The server does a flush() after each instance, yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean, client does out.write() then flush, right ?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Essentially what i've done is create a 'server app' and a 'client app', that run on Android devices. The 'client' app allows you to specify the server's ip, and then send a message. If I send 'test', I'll recieve 'test' on the server, but then if i try and send "test" or anything else (wihtout restarting the server) nothign happens. But if i kill/re-launch the app, it'll get the first message again.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no, i'm flushing on the server, should I do a write then flush on the client side?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seem like you leave reading loop on server side
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: both
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean: read/write operations for TCP may be buffered
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, I'm using a BufferedReader object to pass the data.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if they are, then 2nd try on client side to send waits till buffer fills up
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: BufferedWriter out = new BufferedWriter(new OutputStreamWriter(s.getOutputStream()));
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: and ufferedReader in = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(s.getInputStream()));
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: BufferedReader*
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: look at this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13572839/tcp-ip-connects-and-sends-but-doesnt-work-after-initial-sends
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: seems a bit similar to your problem
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, by that post it seems I should be looking for a missing or non-hitting .close()
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should execute Flush() after you've called your Write() 
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that's conclusion of that article
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Making those mods now, lemme get it running and see.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: .close() do flushes buffers
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: interesting...
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If i .close() after a write it works fine (except for the one-off message issue), but if I do .flush() it'll hand the app
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: hang*
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you try to readln on client side or so
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am not sure whether you are able to use wireshark or not, but it could help you a lot to see whether your messages are delivered to/from client/server
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: not sure of specific implementations here, but is the communication synchronous or asynchronous? synchronous would wait for an ack (potentially hang app if it never gets one), but asynchronous would not
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I have the listening port running on a background thread.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you need TCP_NODELAY
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: see that: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7297173/android-outputstreamwriter-didnt-send-the-data-after-flush-socket
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and that: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4829761/java-objectoutputstream-on-socket-not-flushing
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Apparently someone has mightier google-fu than I ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Apparently someone has mightier google-fu than I ;)tech -h
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: fail... sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is agreeing with that Helperful Cheezburger person again...
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: K, so turned on NoDelay, no change whatsoever :P
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try using telnet instead of your client
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, are you sure, that your server does not leave reading loop after 1st message ?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: interesting indeed.... Using straight telnet, I can connect and get accpeted, I can issue one command, and then the connection is closed. Somewhere my server is doing bad things
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can pastebin the entire server code for ya, it's actually extremely small and simple
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: go on
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://pastebin.com/YnukWJqi
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And to initialize it, I have `t=new Thread(new StartServer()); t.start();
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, where is the LOOP ?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I nuked it out cuz it was breaking things
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: your serve is one line reader
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So what, just put the while (serverState) back around the entire run()?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( serverState is a boolean, true means running, false means not )
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather: while(true) { input = in.readline 
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather: while(true) { input = in.readline ; out.write (....); out.flush();  }
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, you should set setTcpNoDelay on server socket
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tried, wasn't a method of ServerSocket only of Socket
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I did it get it fixed, though. Thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrys Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: look at this: http://darksleep.com/player/SocketExample/VerySimpleServer.java.html
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Was the loop, obviously
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: to turn the channel off just type tech thr
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you get socket descriptor by accept, then read / write
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, such server is single thread, single client
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I looed at that one. Unfortunately mine gets a little more complex. The purpose of the app is to turn any phone into a set-top box and relay server, and have any other mobile device (with authentication) work as a remote for it.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now that I got the server up and running, the fun part of writing a new scripting language for it begins :P
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: For some reason though, my server's seeing double. send hi --> "Recieved: hi\nReceived: hi"
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: try an explicit .newLine() before your .flush() on the client?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, mye, I know it's gotta be something on the server end. it does that via raw telnet too.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: K, so I've got everything working between the two now ... except for one small thing. I can only connect 1 client to the server at a time... Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I got it solved, actually. I'm not sure what the real culprit was, but i just add a `if (input.length() > 1) {}` around my out.write() logic.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mischan :P
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude eyes the a priori logic.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: sooooo... am I just doing it wrong, or is music.google.com now a p2p service?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope, you're not doing it wrong.  30 days free trial, then 7.99 after that.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So I'm trying a hack to get a plugin working by modifying and combining two other plugins... I know, scary. Referring to mushclient here. Anyway, under the gmcp section on one of these plugins, it's got a check for a long hex number which is supposed to be looking for the  gmcp handler. Would this number be plugin specific, or is it ok to copy that part?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: copy it
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Each plugin is given a unique identifying number - the GMCP helper plugin has one number, which is unique for itself, but common across other plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What you should *never* copy, is the ID for the 2 plugins - give them uniqe identifiers, or bad things can happen. You can get a new ID by using the Plugin Wizard and creating an empty plugin.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: will this mean that the combined plugin might need its own?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I was just going to ask that. Ok
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: isn't there a way to retrieve the UID?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: you don't need to create an empty plugin, there's a generate id option somewhere
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: might be in the file menu, don't remember exactly
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: err, what if I just changed something minor in another plugin? Do I need a new id for that, too? I'm just talking changing a couple sound file names and fixing a no longer working trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: make it 42, that should be safe
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: no, that's fine
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if you want to release it as a new version of the old plugin, then it would keep the same id
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Aha! Ok
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if it's its own unique plugin, it should have its own unique id
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Being careful that if you are forking an existing plugin, it should probably get a new id
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: no two plugins can have the same id
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The issues mostly occur when plugins save information, and when they create windows.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: just changing sound triggers and fixing a trigger, though, should be okay
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: anyone know why a webpage would show like and old Netscape text page in Chrome?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Chrome is partially running on old Netscape code, isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: but i mean like it's all text, no formatting
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Ok. I think I get it. Yeah the one I'm working on now is a pretty serious modification... Assuming it actually works, so a new id would probably be good. But this gmcp number is looking for the gmcp plugin. That makes sense. Thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I'd assume it has to do with some header include not loading
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i was having problems earlier with pages not even loading and giving me "needing additional log on information" so someone said to try chrome... but meh
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: sounds like you have some net issues, not chrome specific
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: faylen: I'd also suggest that you talk to Fiendish before doing all too much with your project...
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: well my ISP ran tests and it's fine, they think it's malware but i ran all the software i have and nothing shows...although i know that doesn't always mean nothing is there
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: malwarebytes, full scan
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I've been running into something that doesn't show up any other way, but it's hit mine twice
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Ah. Yeah, I'll do that, although what I'm trying to do is pretty specific to screen reader users. I couldn't get help doing it so I'm trying my hand at it myself, for better or worse. lol
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would be a much better idea for you to help him streamline the VI capabilities of his released MUSHclient than for you to make your own releases...he is very open to updates like that
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also MS Defender
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's interested in things specific to screen reader users
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yes, Fiendish would love to help make AardMUSH better for VI users.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he has asked for people to work with him on VI features
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Hmm. That's a good point. Except, to make it truly vi friendly, all the mini windows have to be disabled. Perhaps I'll talk with him to see if there would be some way to enter a command that would go through and do that, not sure how possible that is.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the miniwindows can be easily disabled in one command
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Really? I had to go in and remove a bunch of plugins to do it
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, you can just write an alias to disable them all
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what you were asking for before about a way to filter channel and other info for what to funnel through your reader plugin, the channel capture plugin already has tons of that functionality already, between deciding which stuff to go to the capture miniwin and the main output separately...would just need a CLI interface for it, and a third option of reader
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Good thing is since this doesn't install, just runs out of a folder I can experiment without worrying about screwing up my running version. hehe
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oo, I hadn't thought about looking at that one. I've been using WW's sound pack plugin as a base for how to grab the channel posts and trying to hack that into this channel history plugin I have. But the channel capture might be a better source, less modification, perhaps
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: This totally reminds me of when I was first trying to learn any kind of programming. Taking existing stuff, picking it apart and putting other stuff in to see if it worked.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for the long hex number looking for the gmcp handler, you should copy that part exactly...that's not the number identifying your plugin, that's the number of the GMCP handler, so it has to match...
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: nodnod. I got that from earlier discussion. I didn't really understand that plugins had these ids, but now that makes total sense. Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, if you look in the state folder, the state files are named WorldIDSoAllTheSame hyphen PluginID hyphen state.xml
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh gees, I haven't even dug around in there at all. Is that where plugin info is stored that changes, to save info over sessions etc?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I was most disappointed there was no new Nexus 7 announcement...now I have no clue whether to buy the current one or wait some undetermined number of months :-(
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: I think i finally figure out what was wrong with my browser problems
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: one of the microsoft updates did something screwy with my security settings...i restored back to my 5/8 restore point and all the errors went away
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Vanellope bounces around.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i forgot i could do that o.O
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: although i still can't see some pictures and stuff in IE and it wiped out chrome so i have to get that again :P
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: eh nope ...still having problems :(
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: they FINALLY found out what was wrong with my PC
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i had DNS poisoning .
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Vanellope . o O ( sounds like a freaky health condition )
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: hey anyone use Facebook understand how the thumbnails on the bottom left are organized?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: the ones used for the chat? i never could figure out how/why they are ordered the way they are
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: is it possible to have inventory displayed in a window on mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I saw a plugin for that someplace once
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: don't recall where, but it's out there
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: I see I see
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: can't be more specific?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: uhm... try asking Leinei?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei makes an innocent face and says: 'Listen baby - WASNTME!'.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: gammon made one, but don't think it was ever completed.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: someone else might have modified it
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: Found one
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Any quick way to resize lots of images at once? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I found one once, years back.  No idea what it was called, though
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: thinking like "jpeg resizer" or something like that
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: hmm. I think I'll go poke one of the graphics guys and see what they say. :)
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: One of these days I need to actually develop some photoshop skillz. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: whatcha trying to do, Jae?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I just logged in, sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: what sort of images?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Currently 250 pngs. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: do you already have photoshop?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I want to decrease the size to like 60% but keep the number of pixels. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I've got the CS5 version I think.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: (I have so many programs installed on this computer that I basically never use) :P
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: if you want to keep them as PNG, go for FastStone Photo Resizer. Otherwise, Photoshop has the plugin under File>Scripts>Image Processor which will open, resize, and save a bunch of images for you
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Yes, but it doesn't want to keep them as pngs, but I see something that'll let me record an action and then run a batch process. Time to give that a try. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I usually use Lightroom to export my files to a specific size/format with my watermark.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: recording a batch action in PS is pretty easy, though
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: When you are talking about size, are you talking physical size, or byte size?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because if you want to keep resolution the same, you change the first by changing the DPI, and the second by changing the save quality
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Vakieh, in my case, it's exporting images to a proper size for website display--I don't need to put the full 12MP shot up there.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: and I do that with a non-destructive method, exporting from Lightroom to a JPG 1400px on the long side, which my website will then display at a 600px width with a link to the larger version.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: PS has a 'save for web and devices' option which is purpose built for this
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That said, you need to reduce the resolution - most browsers look at the number of pixels directly, instead of looking at DPI (which is more for printing)
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: why export from Lightroom to Photoshop and add the step?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ? Sorry, I use Bridge :-P Lightroom probably has similar features
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I DO reduce the resolution down to 1400px on a side, Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I was referring to Jaenelle's original like-res stipulation
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, but PNG is a lossless format, so it'll have just as many pixels unless she actively resizes it to reduce pixel count
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forunner Tech: hallo
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto misses the 'v' and wabes.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there an alternate mud client to use on android besides blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Don't think it's stealth. It's a lvl 1 hunter
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: some races can hide
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: WEll. after working with a graphics guy for awhile... we can change one image in photoshop, but the action wouldn't record a 60% image size, it always recorded at 100%. So while I could change one image, I couldn't run a whole folder.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: BUT, since they're all going into a word doc anyways... I created a macro in word that does the same thing at the same quality. I just rescale the images to 60% or 0.6 there. *fear*
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: is there a mush plugin which will display quest mob name and area in the info bar with time to tick info? (below command line)?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I'd written a script which did that for zmud and is probably the only thing I still don't have an equivalent for in mush now
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ust gotta find the syntax
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: eh?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: wouldnt be hard to do, just need the syntax to put it there
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well I'm not familiar at all with scripting in mush
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: So this is weird...I can't use Ctrl+End in Windows XP.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: That's it. Everything else works fine. Just that one shortcut.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Run a repair installation of windows.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: I don't want to :(
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: But yeah that's about where I'm at. Really weird bug.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: when using "find" in the output window of Aardmush... how do I "find next"?  F3 doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hrm, anyone experiencing problems with google currently? Can't seem to get through to it... can't seem to connect to google's DNS server either...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: pops right up for me
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: google and G+
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hrm... wonder why it's not working for me...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: you try multiple platforms?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: computer, smart phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: computer. Pinging 8.8.8.8 also times out
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: you have a smart phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: no. I have a desktop and laptp though... both can't reach google dns.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: hmm...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: what city do you live in?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oddly, I can reach wikipedia, but not google, unless I use http://173.194.75.105
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: philly
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimafuguro Tech: 8.8.4.4 ??
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/drive.google.com.html
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... pinging 8.8.4.4 gives no response either...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh well, maybe it'll magically resolve itself after a while. *cross fingers*
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimafuguro Tech: I think this may cause from your ISP
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: routing issue maybe?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: maybe...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you got another PC on your network you can try?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, both can't reach google.com and 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: restart router
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you at home, univ, work?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: home. Funny thing is, I can reach most sites, just not google, google news, etc. Really odd.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: done anything that might have offended google? :)
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: google pops right up for me... Did you restart your router?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: try loading a page you've never been to before.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I did a while back - worked, oddly.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: haven't restarted my router though...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sort of worried that if I try restarting it I might lose my connection altogether. Is that worry baseless?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I'd say it is
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would as well
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: baseless I mean
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite looks like he'll agree to just about anything right now. Hmmm...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh well, see you in a while then...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serkitt Tech: I'm using the aard mush client, and my map is updating on the screen instead of the map widget, any clues how to fix?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: sounds like tags
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: try tags map
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serkitt Tech: ah! thanks a tick
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite bows deeply.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hrm, didn't fix it. Maybe my isp has just suddenly decided it hates google or something.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serkitt Tech: now the map is off centered nd trying to go through the side of the widgit
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: anyone remember offhand where the dns server setting options are?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: for?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: for modem, router, or OS?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: OS
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: windows?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: vista, I think
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: old computers...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: eww. umm network connection properties and then ipv4
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: could also open a command window and type ipconfig /flushdns
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: maybe that would help
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: serkitt: make sure that "shortmap" is turned off, so that you do see blank lines on the map
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ah, I figured out why my desktop isn't connecting. For some reason I can't reach google, and my desktop was using google's dns servers, while this computer isn't...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I've no idea why google hates me now, but at least I can connect on my other computer. sigh. Oh well, no google for me for now, I guess. Thanks all!
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably just a temporary routing issue
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: maybe...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, I usually use google's 8.8.8.8 dns for anything that doesn't need internal DNS
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it seems like I switched to 8.8.8.8 on my desktop ages ago (but not my laptop) when I encountered problems with whatever my isp assigned. And now I switch back because I can't reach 8.8.8.8. Ha.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: good thing I checked my email before this happened...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how do you disable googles spellchecker on androi rd?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Without modding the software layer, you can't afaik
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k. thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone found a good replacement for Google Reader yet?  I don't like Feedly because it doesn't work with IE.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: stop using IE
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I could have predict that answer, I use IE at work.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and if it doesn't work on I.E. it also doesn't work on my blackberry!
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: commafeed.com
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: Anyone have the campaign tracker plugin for MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or finger winklewinkle      ???
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: I have one, but I'm having a issue with it..
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It is usually more expedient if you ask your question 
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: well the tracker always omits the mob on the top of the list because whenever I type cp check, the name for the first mob is stuck after my prompt so It's never picked up
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: add a carrage return on the end of your prompt (thought mush auto did that but something must be wrong with yours)
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: with my prompt or mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: type auto and the last thing on your prompt line should be a %c
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: It isn't which I assume is the issue
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: Much better, thanks Hadar
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: ANyone super awesome at creating macros in word? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle hears the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Not heard of it, does it have an automated quest system?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I've managed to resize all the images, but I"m wondering if I can check the size and if the resized size is greater than 11cm, to make it 11cm :P
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: is anyone here familiar with Unity3D?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: no one?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirran Tech: in settings should be able to realign 
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: Does anyone else have problems hitting the on-screen buttons with the Android client? I have to press 1cm below the buttons to actually hit them :/  
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: this happens occassionally. Im using Samsung Galaxy Note.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Speaking as an adroid developer ... for the most part that's the hardware screwing up. The android layer doesn't really have any issues translating touch events through the layers.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: Do you how to remap the screen?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: note 1 or 2?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: note 1. Everything else is working very nicely.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: I just tried to draw with the s-pen to the s-memo and it worked precicely. So i think its just with this aardwolf app.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah.. those two things were designed together to work together .. not really really proof of your following statement ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: cool, double that really like a typo king.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What version of android is your note running?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: And the on-sceen buttons are like 1 or 2 cm off. I couldnt do anything with this phone if it would be always like this.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Settings -> About Phone
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: 4.0.4.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: And sometimes the on-screen buttons are at 100% right place. Sometimes 1-2cm off. 
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm not seeing any issues with it running on 4.0.4 on the emulator, but that's not exactly touch testing. I just don't have a device with 4.0.4 to test it on.. 
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And unfortunately, there's nothing I can really do to test it without BT's source code :P
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, you're kinda SOL until BT's developer pushes a new release to fix it. Post a bug note to them, and hope.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn. cheeze any idea who wrote the aardwolf mud client for android app?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can't recall
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k thanks anyways
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude is using it and was tinking of automating login.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: the 'Actions' button and 'clear' button seem to work 100% of the time but N W S are not working at all.  
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Do you have them too close together? You may have overlaps..
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: how do you reset the onscreen buttons on the android?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Long-click and drag iirc
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: i think theyre not too close together. I take my words back with the clear button. now it doesnt work. Maybe i'll leave a note tomorrow
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: windows 8
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why are windows 7 laptops so bloody expensive compared to 8?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: uefi?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: MS price fixing
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So people'll buy the new ones.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: touch screen ?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: demand?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks like $700 for a 4gb/i5 with windows 7 pro, or $600 for a 6gb/i5 with windows 8
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and what's the obsession with really shitty resolution screens?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1366x768? cmon, phones have higher resolution
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Lol
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh cool i found a bug in aardwolf 
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's all fixed bro.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not the bug, the pricing and forcing of upgrades.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: Isn't really hard to get a monitor that does over 1920x1080?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do you figure anyone is forcing you?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey all!
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sup
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: don't suppose you know how to change the text size using an iOS client called mud client do you? LOL
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: i am on my ipad right now using my bluetooth keyboard and i wish the text was just a shmidge bigger
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try just stretching the screen?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: aye didn't work
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not familiar with that particular client offhand...I've messed around with TMC's client and pocketmud, but prefer iSSH to connect to my real (non-mobile) MUD client when using iphone/ipad
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hmmm i am kinda new to tryin to play aardwolf, or any mud for that matter via my ipad i just grabbed this client from the app store cause it was free
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: would you recommend pocket mud? i saw that one on there
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh I don't recommend using a mobile MUD client...better to use just a telnet/ssh client to connect to a computer running a real MUD client...that way you're only dealing with one setup regardless of the device you're using, and computer clients are worlds beyond mobile clients for scriptability
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So, I just loaded bast's stat monitor, which also pulled in several other plugins related to it. Now a window keeps popping up with sql errors. I've never gotten this before, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: most of them appear to be some kind of positioning updates, if that helps. I have all of the mini windows disabled, but I know others who are using this package without getting those errors
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: ok, seems my computer was being stupid, no more sql errors, although I did get a message about not being able to load eqdb. No clue why not but I'm not gonna worry about that right this moment
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Multiplay Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Multiplay Tech: why didn't I get my item from the auction back
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: they makan your item
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Multiplay Tech: so where is my item
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: u might like to scroll up to see wad happened
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: its gone. never to be seen again.  Try the newbie channel for more help
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: how you can use alias in other alias in mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: send to execute instead of world
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: thx
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troryn Tech: Can anyone help me set up a basic trigger so I can learn how they work with MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: can you do it on this channel so i can learn too
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nick Gammon has made some excellent youtube tutorials for Mushclient, I think there was one for triggers, 1 sec
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and this list of common messages is handy too.... http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish also has great guides on the aard mushclient package's website
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Bingo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGrA-Q7uqC0
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troryn Tech: Thanks Vakieh, I'll start there
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: plus Nick Gammon has a trendy accent
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He also does one on the same account about targetting aliases (featuring Aardwolf way back when) which shows a good use for triggers, aliases etc
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Several of those messages are out of date with recent changes, however - best to look at what is sent first-hand IMO
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've identified ones to change...then change them...that's why it's a wiki
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't have current wiki credentials, board bugs, note read 13222
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troryn Tech: Okay so after watching that video I'm still a little lost.  I've also been reading about triggers and a lot of what I see are XML versions of the triggers.  Where do I go to type that stuff as opposed to using the GUI?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd normally use the GUI
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in order to do it outside the GUI, you'd use the "script prefix" (\\\ by default) and then use the scripting function AddTrigger(), but it's TONS easier to use the GUI, as then you're not having to remember which option number goes to world vs execute, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, I'd suggest typing "finger bast" and going to his website...between the aard MUSHclient package and the stuff bast has available, most legal stuff that you'd want is already available :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troryn Tech: sounds good.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ive looked all over the manual, and the pdf lf the manual for this eton raptor, but cant get the display to turn off, its waterproof. any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i recently changed from mushclient to aardwolf android app, how do i disable all the extra skill texts that mushclient had?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: why is it when your internet connection goes wonky, your systems slows to a crawl and hangs.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cause big brother is spying on you
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone use Jolicloud/Jolidrive?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: sorry if this is wrong place for this question, but can anyone help me disable push notifications from facebook to my cell? made the mistake a friending someone who makes my phone let me know every hour "So-and-so had invited you to play Puzzled Hearts" or some such.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either go into the FB app's settings or the phone's push settings to customize
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: delete your facebook account?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: click the little gear in the top right, then account settings, then the notifications tab.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: or the mobile tab. I never remember which is for what.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: kinda sucks have to shut down all notifications. no option to just ignore those spam game requests. would have liked to still receive notifications for friend requests, messages, board posts, etc. ah well
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Endtime.. I think you can do that
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: can't you just mute those notifications period.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah, settigs, account settings, blocking, block app invites. Add that person to the list
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can from the facebook webpage, you can mute notification from a specific game, and i also think you can mute notifications from all games
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: would just nuke this person from my flist, but it's my Aunt. Make family reunions pretty awkward :)
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I always mute various games
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there should be an invite to Aardwolf though.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you block them from sending apps, they can still message/etc you
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: that is exactly what I needed, thanks! figured you guys would be able to help, as always :)
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: We're awesome, we know.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: a USB/DVI Kvm should work with a displayport -> DVI adapter, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Can anyone recommend a good ssh client for android?  Using ConnectBot, but my hardware keyboard and its key mapping don't agree...
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: omg my net flix is playing on i micro sized window in my window
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: this is not cool any clues
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: close/reopen the window?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: restart your computer
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: have you tried turning it off and on again?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: restart your computer
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: why would a pc kick off and refuse to turn on after installing a graphics card into it?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: kick off? anyway maybe you need a bigger power supply for your video card (is it new?)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: one is new other isnt and it use to work but now if i dont remove graphics card pc doesnt go on
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. did you turn off the pc when you installed the card?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: as well as unplug/etc?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Possible you knocked something else loose?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i checked cant see anything loose
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Did you use a antistatic wristband, or other device for ESD protection?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's possible, but unlikely you damaged something due to static discharge. 
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So when you remove the graphics card - plug the system in - whath appens when you try to power it up?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: it starts up normally
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and with the card in?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: it doesnt respond at all
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: doesn't respond... can you elaborate? Any lights? Fans come on? No noises?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: nothing the power light comes on but no fans or anything else
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you have an LED on your motherboard that comes on when you plug the power in?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: yes it comes on but thats all
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what color
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: green
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anything else change that you can think of from before it stopped working to now?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: no nothing just when i take out the card it works again
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or card was in and working.. then stopped working
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: first card was working then stopped thought it blew somrthing
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah. So you've already tried swapping in a different video card?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if at least one of them was known good, its going to be either your PSU or your motherboard. PSU being the easier to check, if you have access to a multimeter, or a proper power supply tester. or if neither of those, just a known good spare to test with
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: ok PSU? whats that look like?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Power supply, Roque
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: im playing on the pc right now doesnt that mean PSU is fine and working then?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not neccesarily. Especially if you are -1 video card.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Video cards tend to be one of the largest power draws in a system.. if your psu is marginal, it might do fine to power integrated/drives.. but add an extra 120watt load, and then it can't keep up
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: ok so if its motherboard then how do i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if it's the motherboard, you'd have to replace it.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: and if its PSU what should voltage read?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres a few different voltages, roque. Depending on which wires you're measuring.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: sounds like i should rather take it in and let the pro's check it out:)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: thanks daloran
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depending on what you have access to for part swapping, and tools for testing, might be for the best.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Purpose built PSU testers are pretty idiot proof, even if they won't show how the psu does under load. Swapping it for a known good tends to be the better option.. but unless you have a box of spare parts, not too useful
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: only have knew video card no other spares so a tech would check it better then i could
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kk. Well, good luck on that front then =) If you take it in, I'd suggest backing up anything you're concerned with first - if you take it in and they want to do it before work it will add more money.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, even if they don't, if the excrement hits the rotating oscilator, and your drive gets damage/lost/etc, you'll have your data
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: thanks daloran ill back it up before taking it in this pc just giving me headaches:)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran hugs RoqueWarrior.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: how to use alias on monsters example: use backstab then black root.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: as assassin
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misok Tech: First create keyword in replace box then in with box type backstab semicolon symbol black
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misok Tech: for example type bs in replace box, then backstab
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misok Tech: That was for phone alias
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: that just give me the message backstab who? and then black root the thing.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misok Tech: I'm not sure about adding target command in alias
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: using aardwolf rpg
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: anyone know how to target using first command of alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=aliases
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: doesn't explain it.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure it does. You just either haven't read it, or just assumed it doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or your question isn't stated in a way that we understand what you need.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: read it, i'm trying to use a combat alias eg:.backstab (semicolon) black on a monster which only results in me black rooting it as there is no target for the first action 
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: if any of you answered my question, i didn't get it. Sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: what the heck, i'll make do.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: can someone help me with getting aard on mxit app for iphone - I downloaded the app and created login - went to tradewinds-->games-->multiplayer-->mud and found aard - i hit it and it says it added aardwolf to my contacts, but when i return to contacts its not there :( - tried multiple times, restared phone, reinstalled app, nothing :( - can anyone tell me where i messed up?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So..... Synergy is awesome. Not really a question, but it's been a while since I've had call to use it. And it's still awesome.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is it as yuppie as the name sounds?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No. Shares keyboard/mouse across multiple machines.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's a client/server to allow you to share 1 keyboard/mouse with multiple PCs.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: thought those were KVM
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No video, ontuct
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: each device still needs its own display
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: it is a network based kvm
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, I use it to control my 3 laptops at work with one mouse and one keyboard. Just easier.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In this instance - I have my PC - and my laptop sitting to the right of my monitor. I can move my mouse from my desktop to the laptop even though the devices are seperate.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its not a KVM, Akuri
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's a universal remote's big brother. :)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( Is working on the android equivalent right now )
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Sounds cool, though I'm sure my technical overlords at work won't allow it to work with my laptop.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Possible. Though newer versions do include encryption
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I had to dual boot my work pc for it :P
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The enterprise windows was all like "Awww... hell naw"
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: any advice on running mushclient on a mac?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: buy a computer
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish's site for aard mushclient has a FAQ entry on it
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: run bootcamp
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't suggest bootcamp
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: so wine is too bad?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: I am lagging using wine, but I would like to know if it is due to Wine or something else
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, wine's cake...drag one file onto your applications folder and it's done
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: my keystrokes are lagging ... well, not anymore :P
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: they were lagging a while ago :P
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Maybe it's because HooK was greeting me
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: and I was lagging
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: all the pr0n
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: since I was toying with the recent MCCP question - I managed to turn mine off via the command line, but can't seem to get it back on... where is the menu option hiding in Aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oo, EA is dropping support for the Wii U, and will not make new games for the system.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: are mobile broadband cards faster than blue tooth tethering my phones data?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: (potentially.)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends on the speed of the broadband card vs the phone, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But 3G is 3G, regardless if it's phone tethering or broadband card.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well the phone is lte capable on 4g allegedly
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tech Bluetooth will end up being your bottleneck, most likely
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just because it's LTE capable doesn't mean you'll get LTE speeds, especially if there's no coverage for it in your area.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bluetooth 2.0 is something like 2mbps max....
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so it will depend on the bluetooth radios if that will be a limitation
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It'd be better to use wither wifi hotspot, or a usb tether to use a phone. in which case the speeds would be more comporable to a data card
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn k . ill try it with the cable, if i find an app for it
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which platform are you on?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: android
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: usb tethering is built in to later version of android, and a lot of carriers roll a wifi hotspot in. If neither of those, then look at PDANet/Foxfi
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that will work on BT, Usb, or wifi - though might require rooting your phone
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BT2.0 is 3Mbps, BT3.0 and BT4.0 both use wifi for the transport, much faster than anything that LTE will get you...but most modern phone will do wifi tethering without needing to use bluetooth as the setup
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yeah, my  other phone has it rolled in on ice creme sandwich
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, I wasn't including the high speed requiring wifi bit =p
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my new phone is unrootable.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unlikely.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ill give your four trivia points to get my phone to root :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which device?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lg optimus 769 with revision 10g
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: have you tried framaroot?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: frama ? not yet.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i had to use that to root my phone
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not on supported device list?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mine was not, just try it, worse case it tells you no
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190326 
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: P769 correct?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right, but with 10g
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: define 10g for me
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its the most updated firmware  version
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did you try framaroot?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not yet, gotta finish downloading and move it to the pc
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198114 there ya go.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: just download it on the phone
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah. i see. its apk
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: daloran?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya its an actual app, its not a custom rom or anything
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: less effort than zergrush. lets see if it works
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: whos your carrier?q r
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ... 57%
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tmo.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah VD?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: whatm i looking for on this link?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the directions for rooting your phone =p
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: framaroot not useful for my device
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it was worth a shot
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: daloran, i have 10g, not 10e
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "Unlocking bootloader on P769 Tmobile from 10G"
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171243 that being the second thread linked from the first, showing the rooting procedures
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which leads to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465 now I suppose
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so... theyre not there yet?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. the thread explains how to unlock bootloader, root, and flash your phone, vamp.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it seems to say that they cant do it without wrecking graphics. 
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: can somebody please help me install these bast plugins...i keep getting a error when i try to add one
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: whats the error?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how do i turn this off?    {invitem}1025083392,M,South,99,6,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: probably some tag
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yes but witch...
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: try invmon
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, that's what he search invitem suggests...
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: INV           Display tags when viewing own inventory: {inventory/}   NO 
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its off and i still get it
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: {invitem}1026069946,M,a green key,100,13,0,-1,-1 {invmon}4,1026069946,-1,-1
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thats the output
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tags off :P
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: did tags off restarted the client and its still on...HELP!
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: tried help search?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: are you using aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yes using mush
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you have some plugin that on startup turns the tags off, so after "tags off" you restarted them by restarting client
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: turns them on automatically that is
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nvm i fixed it
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: How do I create an alias that tells me when I get disarmed?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's a trigger not an alias
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you want a 'trigger', actually
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: or one that picks up my weapon and wields it
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh, right.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: same
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: so i'm sure ive created one before
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/triggers.htm
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's way too complicated for me. With all the variables that need to be set.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: something like: "sends your * flying"
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For Mushclient, I would just use Bast's disarm plugin - set and forget, pretty much
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: iused '* DISARMS *' and then get [weapon id num], wear [weapon id num]
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: need to update if you change weapon, don't use any more as i wear aard bracvers
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's the beauty of the Bast plugin - it autoupdates when you switch weapons. But yes, aard bracers make it all moot
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh so you cant use wildcards?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: or the " * "
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There is a distinct difference between object name, and object keywords
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: "Dagger of Aardwolf" won't work, because "of" is not a keyword of the item
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: best to register your current weapon as a variable using the serial... then use that variable in your trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: can someone tell me what this mush dialog box means, it comes up every day, and I'd like it to stop..... http://postimg.org/image/t9y5pmfbb/
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Why so secretive Craig?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but do you have an answer?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=1100
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nope, don't use MC.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Things like this make me all warm and fuzzy when it comes to thinking about my job prospects :-) http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Truth-of-the-Matter.aspx
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thanks, would read again
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a mob database plugin somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sort of.. but it's way more efficient to just use the web site
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: o ok :D thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pfft. Your meaning of efficiency and my meaning of efficiency differ a bit, then.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duckbat made a proxy program which has a mob database as one of its modules
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean? Like test if your server's online?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis :P
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone able to assist me with a stupid php problem
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have a string say "7:02 AM"
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: trying to convert to time, but date("h:i", $timevar) isnt working right
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is timevar set right?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes say $timevar = "7:02 AM"
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but echos 07:00
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: after using date()
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so im stumped
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You sure you aren't automagically converting the float to an int? I am a hater of loosely typed languages for exactly this reason...
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: $timevar is a string
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im trying to convert it to a datetime
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: technically just time
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Do strtotime, so date("h:i", strtotime($timevar))
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: are bar magnets bad for my cell phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: VD, you have to be the strangest troll ever. And your competition in Druzil/Chemosh is nuked, and Zade/Xyliz is quiet...
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and starling left
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: yeah... 'left'
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, Starling got nuked.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli pats VampireDude on his head.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: thats one word for it
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks Etzli that did it
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im retarded
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: anyone else got problems resolving aardmud.org on google public DNS ?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: okay, any other ideas for unlocking the phone? i'm on internet with pc now so i can download stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why does everyone want a tesla?  they are plagued with mechanical problems
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i dont want one. i have a chevy nova
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you probably stole it, too
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrys Tech: it's a nice looking car, anyway. i saw one a few months ago. only one i've ever seen irl
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the chvy nova?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'll sell you the nova.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: re: tesla, it's looks like a jag from the back and a ford from the front
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it's also absurdly wide
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrys Tech: the tesla, sorry, lol
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I think audi and benz "look" nicer
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: any protips for installing gentoo linux on uefi gtp alongside of windows 8 pro?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: dropped keyboard on toe, windows help pops up.  No help available on this topic.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: rebind your keys bro
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how do i re-enable the backscroll buffer in tinyfugue?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: nvm. more on
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know of a program that can try to recover a pkdbf2 master key to a luks partion made using serpent-xts-benbi with sha:256'd passphrase ?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lolwat
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes, the program involves dissecting your brain looking for the missing master key
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he's asking if there's any fancy-shmancy way to format his hard drive.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gruagach... my file folder is encrypted and i lost the passphrase ages ago :( but it has a text file in it that i typed my n-u-code for my cell phone in at the time.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: use a magnet
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: zetkax oh. like in johnny neumonic
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: grua, that doesnt work... 
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i thought since cloud and vpn services were prevalent, and my machine now is twice as fast... i might try and recover it :(
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vps... vpn.. whatever
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sighs.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: from that show all i remember is he used a disk double to go from 80GB to 160GB and then tried to fit 320GB of information
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: im thinking .. that wont work!
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sure he would, it'd be like mudding through mccp
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You need to make a few more of those thingys with knows passwords so you can see how the hashing and salting works out and then you can figure out how to go about brute forcing the unknown one. GLWT
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: warpigs hmmn. okay, but it's all documented.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: darned security through obscurity :(
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: your mom will never find that porn now
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: So, you know the hashing algorithm and you know the salt?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: ...and you know the hash?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i have the hash. yes
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i didnt use a salt. i used a passphrase
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: The product probably used a salt and saved it with the hash, unless it sucks.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Well, it probably saved the salt somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well, i can link you to the documentation, but i know i didnt add a salt myself.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn. well. other topic question: can i have more than 4 primary partitions in a gpt partition table?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i work with a person with disabilities, one of them being he is blind, another making it hard to type, and he is looking to get a new computer, he was also looking into getting dragon, and i wonted to know if anyone knew of any good alternatives to make it easier for him to use his computer, as it stands we are looking for PC but he would not be opposed to a mac if its easier/better
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Hm. I can help with the blindness aspect, but not the speech input I'm afraid
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: anybody around?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i remove--> Trigger function "process_prompt" not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: it comes up every time my prompt shows up
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Process prompt seems like an SnD thing, and the error message is the standard mush error message for attempting to do something when it has messed up previously
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: How can I fix this?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Have you tried restarting the client?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Let me try
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Helpful hint: Before asking for help, close the program and open it again. It will fix 90% of errors.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah nice
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: if you can figure out which plugin it is, reinstalling the plugin works, too
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah right
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Playing after like 8 months...so a little out of it heh
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That really goes for any computer-based something - turn it off and on again and fix just about everything
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: My off switch is broken
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: pull the plug
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do you speedwalk again?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If your off switch is broken, turf it to hardware support :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nice! Unity 3d is now royalty free!  Perhaps it's time to learn mobile app development
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i set a new direction for mapper?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: anyone here use the lightning addon for thunderbird to get it to sync with their gmail calender?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: i can't find documentation on how to get this part working
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just use the Google Calendar add-on. Hadn't heard about the lightning add-on.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: hmm the lightning one was the only one i found for this
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: it works, just can't get it to sync with the google calender
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, the Google Calendar makes use of Thunderbird's Web browser. Basically, it opens Calendar up in a separate tab, but makes it easier to do so.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: i'll go looking for it and see if i can find it, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: hmm the addon manager doesn't seem to see a google calendar app other then lightning
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Let me see if I can find it, then, hold on.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: hrm it doesn't seem to have a way to remove the lightning addon either
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Search for Google Calendar Tab -- that's the name of the extension.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And you should be able to remove the lightning add-on by going to Extensions page, then clicking 'remove' on that particular add-on. It'll be to the far right.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: i keep searching for this thing, and i can't tell if it's not searching or what but it keeps presenting me with the general addons page that explains what they are heh
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: blargh there we go
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: this thing is posessed...
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haha. I was about to give you the link. :p
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ya know, it's hard to be a pain in the ass with tech pranks like netsend when you don't know exactly which "username" is your intended target. "nija8599" is not the same as... "H-RVDLS3KS" ...
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Silly school servers. I should just do a msg * You suck., but I'd probably get in trouble for it.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I'm getting this odd situation with mushclient where about every hour or so, but not at exact times, it will completely freeze up, as in the whole program starts responding for about a minute. Then it'll just pick up again. Has anyone ever seen this, have any idea what might be causing it?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Stops responding, rather
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just for showing off - http://i.imgur.com/D4V3gPS.png :P
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i change my font size for mush? i cant read my font on this computerunless its bigger
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: is there anyways to have colors on, but not so bright.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help color
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: wear sunglasses
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sorry, help colorset
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: 'colorset normal' or 'colorset brights' dont change anything forme. looks sameboth ways
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmm, better yet,ill just waittostart playin again till i get a differant monitor.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: what's the command so I can see tells AND have catchtells on?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: catchtells
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: catchtells doesn't prevent you from seeing tells as they happen, it just stores them for convenient REPLAY later.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: hm.. i thought one way wouldn't show the actual tell until you hit replay
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: That's correct, although I think gmcp plugins can get around that
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on whether you have tags turned on (and GMCP)
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: plus, with GMCP the catchtells buffer is superfluous.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ah..  must be a tag thing then
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with tags on, you'll get tells even in note mode, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help telltags for details
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: that's what I needed. Thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh, neat, I didn't even know about that, the telltags
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: new xbox console to not be compatible with old xbox games?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably a mistake
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: think I'll just get another 360 and skip the one
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and by "live TV", they actually only mean TV you pay for.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so, xbox one = lol?/
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: so i want to transfer my maps to my laptop from my PC which folder would contain them?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I don't know, and the mud seems desolate tonight, probably nobody here to answer you.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mattk (
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mattk: Just follow the same instructions under the MUSH upgrade.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's the same concept, except you're transferring your map database.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: where are those instructions
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I believe Fiendish has it on his site somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: well i dont know who that is LOL
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You don't have to know who the person is to be able to finger them. Fiendish is the one responsible for the updates of Aard MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The SSDs are no harder to change then the 2.5" SSDs in the MBPs though
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for the moving maps, that info is right on aard's website...click the screenshot, click client download...that page has the info on what to move for the mapper
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Any advise for a good tool to compare/diff two mysql databases? For Cocoa/MacOS preferably, but a cli-tool would be OK too!
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: if i download the mccp proxy but i wanna play a different mud, can i connect to it as normal?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i'm usually on 2 at once..
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: There are other MUDs?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: Yes :)
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: fla, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: flak, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: awesome zetkax, you da person
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ok now that i fingered you, you da man
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if that other MUD also uses mccp, you can even use the same mccp proxy for both MUDs at once
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: haha yeah man that's dope
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i dont think it does, it's pretty antiquated
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ok lets try this out :o
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp is ancient...
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ah didnt know that
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp existed because Internet pipes used to be tiny and expensive...it's not really that needed today
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: nods...
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i still remember playing dialup at 2400 bps
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i'm just sick of discon half the time i run to an area and itd be nice to get the qp bonus
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i used to have a problem being disconnected whenever i encountered lots of combat spam
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: it says you need to edit the cfg file but it's already done for you :o
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is, but that might be out of date...open that file in a text editor to be sure (it can't be aardwolfmud or mudservices)
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: DUDE! i'm on MCCP!
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: without switching clients :) :)
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's also a nice GUI Windows mccp proxy that's many years newer than mcclient, finger arkanes for that
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flak thanks you heartily. 
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flak thanks Zetkax heartily.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: lol mccppimp
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i dont get how it connects to localhost like that but i'll take it
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your computer is being a relay server...the mccp proxy on your computer is "listening" for connections...and any connections it receives, it opens up a client connection to Aard, just piping in from one into out to the other
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ahhh ok
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that's why you connect to localhost, because you're connecting to that listener on your own computer
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: so its like a re-direct?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i wish i was smarter with this kinda stuff, but wishing won't make it so :o
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's like if john had 2 phones, and you wanted to call mary through john...you'd call him, he'd call mary, and he'd put the 2 phone handsets together ear-to-mouth
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: you lost me at ear-to-mouth, i started thinking about sex :P
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, remember the old modems that you'd put the handset into a twin-suction-cup thing? (accoustic coupler)
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i think i saw the suction cups before but i never knew what they were for
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i was super young back then 
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: thats my excuse anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: accoustic coupler...does that amplify the signal?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, to use modems, faxes, etc, you'd put the phone into that...and it would literally play the modem sounds into the microphone of the phone
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: wait what was the purpose of that then
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: just to annoy people?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: to send data via anolog signal?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's how the modem sounds got onto the phone system in order for the modems to work
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ohhhh
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you used the whole handset instead of just the phone cord
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: phone lines are analog and modems are digital?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's HOW the old ones worked...it had a speaker and a microphone...it listened to the sound that the phone played, and it played its own sound into the phone
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the user's end, phone lines are analog yes...and modems just turn your digital "bits" into sound pulses
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: pretty sure the modem was the device used to translate digital to analog to digital
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yeah, modulator demodulator
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: man thats really cool i never thought about that
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: so the frequency of the pulse carries the data
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so to send 10101010, in a non-fancy encoding, it'd just be playing hightone-lowtone-hightone-lowtone-hightone-lowtone-hightone-lowtone
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the modem MOdulated and DEModulated signals :p
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: cool i get it now i think abelinc
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: and there was a certain tone that you could send that would hang up the phone
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and now that you understand a 20 year old technology, you can promptly forget it
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: haha i hate you scars
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: far older then 20yrs
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nit meets pick, thanks for introducing them ontuct
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: what about all that shit i used to do to prompt the modem manually
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to make them faster, once the "state changes" were as fast as the phone system's lines could handle, they'd add a second set of tones, so there'd be like "low-c/low-e" for one stream and mid-c/mid-e for a second stream, and piece that back together...
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: like ATT you would type ATT or something and it made the modem get ready
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually the technology is exactly the same today
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: and ATDT
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: AT, not ATT
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were AT codes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: or whatever the fuck it was its been years
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i think ATDT then dial a number
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i cant remember why i had to do that sometimes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current fiber lines use the same techniques as modems for signaling, it just went from sound to light
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: or how the hell i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there was a whole slew of commands, handshaking etc
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the understanding still works for current IT networking
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: word
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: for light its just on and off?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: instead of hightone, lowtone?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: again, correct
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i heard if you look into the end of a fiber optic cable you go blind
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you heard wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: that reminds me of the movie PI
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, and in addition to high/low, they also used different encodings to get more than just on/off to compress the bits into less signal changes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: PI was an odd movie
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yeah it was
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: you know what a really freaking odd movie is?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: Brazil.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, not entirely wrong...depends on which fiber cable, whether or not it's "lit", and for how long...
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you ARE either staring into laser or LED output, and it CAN damage your eyes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on if there's a prankster with you at the time.  A techie version of "the AIDS test" could be rather dangerous for your eyes.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but like looking into the sun, it doesn't happen in an instant
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: what's the AIDS test ?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Thats how you trace fiber... light it with a laser and look into the bundle
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i looked at sulfur manganese once and i didnt go blind
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: or whatever that shit is, it was bright as fuck
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you trace fiber by lighting it with a laser and having a receiver "look" into the bundle
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: for the record, this isn't a curse channel :P
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: sorry i'm a pirate
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hold your hand up, palm to face.  When you do, the person telling you to do so then smacks your hand.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol thats a classic
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flak boggles at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: thats gotta hurt your nose
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sort of the idea
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: hey hanslanda hold your hand up to your face palm facing your nose
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i dont get why its called the AIDS test
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: AIDS is a serious issue meant to grab the victim's attention so they're more likely to fall victim to the prank.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ahhhh ha
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: AIDS is serious business for sure
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: this girl told me she had AIDS after we slept together and then she said she was just joking
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: what kind of person does that
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's called the AIDS test because that's how you get the person to do it..."Hey, did you hear that they discovered a new test for AIDS that you can do yourself"
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i wish i could do that to somebody without them getting mad enough to hit me back
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i dont like getting hit
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it works with any serious issue.  I've had someone attempt it on me as a means of determining if I'm a terrorist or not.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: fbi interrogators should do it :p
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and growing up before AIDS exploded, it was a means to determine your retardedness.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: is there a channel history feature on here?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ah -h
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: keep missing stuff while running
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: some people are just trusting
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: call them gullible if you like, but perhaps the believe that others are good-natured and not out to mess with them
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: 'they
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: of course once you put on the years you realize that pretty much everybody is evil as hell
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: id there an easy way to import an outlook.pst file on one computer into linux Kmail on another computer?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: in mushclient is there a way to temporary disable all plugins quickly?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: alt+enter -> scriptts -> enable scripting
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i dont think that disables plugins, just scripts
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The plugin's aren't allowed to execute when scripting's disabled per mush's sandboxign
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: sandboxing*
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: fair enough but it didnt help with the problem im trying to fix
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How about you tell me the problem, maybe I can help ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i have a trigger that fires when i see Exits:
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: its a bit more complicated that that, but thats an easy test
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: its fine when i walk into a room with no notes
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: but when i walk into a room with a note it doesnt trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Custom exits are breaking it, methinks
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: When there's a cexit in room, the exit's string changes
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Theres no longer just east/west/etc, but a literal * symbol.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: if you set the Exit trigger you will notice that it usually fires twice, one is the room exits and i think the other is the ascii map
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can turn the ascii map exit flags off, iirc
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: but walk into a room with a note and you only see one trigger event
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i think it's tags mapexits or something
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, it's reading the one for the room which has "other" for other exits, the ASCII map one has * instead. I can almost guarantee that's what's breaking it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: if i do that then the plugin drawing the ascii map no longer displays exits
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Show me your exact trigger string
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: heh will try
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just the matching part, I don't care about the send.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: well for now its a regexp looking for "xi"
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: wait let me use the gui to see what its doing
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What it /should/ be looking for is "^\[ Exits\: (.*?)\]$"
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: im using a very simple example, my real trigger is "\\[ Exits\\: [a-z() ]*\\]$"
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yu
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yup, and that's why it's broken
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Use mine
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: and just one \ to escape, not two
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: its the same
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Did you replace/remove your old one, or is it still firing also? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i replaced my xi trigger with what you typed
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Is your trigger sending to script, or to world?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: sends to a script that executes Note("*** exits!")
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so you do have a console-like log in there, that's what I was going to have you add :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: console like log?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not important
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And you're not doing anything else that could be failing before your Note() call, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: if it fails i should see it in red right?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not necessarily
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: then i dont know :)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Put the Note() at the very top so there's nothing before it to fail :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: ahh yes its at the very top
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: what do you think is being output when i walk into a room with a note?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And you're trigger string is /EXACTLY/ "^\[ Exits\: (.*?)\]$"?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: without the surrounding quotes and with regexp enabled.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i put double slashes, will it work with single?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I already told you, have to use single to escape :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Double would make it look for a literal \ in the match string
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i usually define in lua script where i have to use double, in gui it appears as single
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: because you're up one level of execution
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: so yes, its exactly what you typed in the gui
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So you've lost a layer of parsing
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You didn't include the "'s did you?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And just to be sure, the 'regexp' box in the GUI is checked, yes?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: this is cut and paste from trigger line: ^\[ Exits\: (.*?)\]$
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: yes, regexp is on
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: works fine when i walk into room without note, does not work when walk into room with note
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: fairly certain is nto the Note affecting it. It's how custom exits are displayed differently
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: put a space after the ) and before the \]
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: its the same
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, well as much as I wish I could help further, I gotta get my butt into a meeting :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're still having trouble in an hour, hit me up
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have credentials for directechs.com?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for "mapper", the command 'mapper help portals' displays a few lines of information to the right of 'mapper portallevel <ind> <lvl>'...  I was curious how mapper handles tiers.  Is the default to automatically account for tiers?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: anyone know a good (and easy) way to import mails and contacts from microsoft outlook into liny Kmail?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how wil i connect to testport but keep all my windows and stuff?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Open a new world with the connection settings in the tester help file, help new tester?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Depends on your client I guess, what I said will work in Mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: anyone know how to make it so i don't see {chan ch=gtell} or similar in front of stuff i group tell etc
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone work for centurylink as an install tech and know how much cable i can get from them?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Protip: Make them put the box as far from the fiber port as possible :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I had them install in a closet so i'd have all kinds of leftover wiring :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but that was time warner, not centurylink. But they'll still do it i'd reckon.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nice. i am just wondering if i can have them put the demarc in one location but then run some cable to a second location
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: <-- doesn't have a drill
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I put mine under the edge of the carpet and ran it along the hall.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: new house with all hardwood floors
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 150ft was plenty for my tiny little apartment :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I ran cable from the neighbors... I have my own drill
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: old house so the hardwood floors are nice and super thick
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I though they'd NEVER all be out of the house at the same time!
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there are the insanely large ventilation grates though
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Don't most hardwood floors (at least new ones) have wiring routes cut into them already?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: man i still have to figure out what i am going to to about the 2 prong outlets
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't know that i would want to run my cabling through ventilation...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i wouldn't.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do you own the home?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: get to run some power wires i guess
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: run a ground off the neutral
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no i don't own it and that is the shitty part
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i wouldn't do any meaningful improvements without owning it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: would rather not have all my electronics hooked up to things that aren't grounded
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: perhaps you could get the owner involved and run some connections in the house
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: run a ground off the neutral, and just replace all the two prong outlets (or at least the ones you want ground on) with three prong (89 cents at Lowes)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't know that it's that simple
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that isn't to code and if you mess with the outlet you have to make it to code
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but if you rent... hold the landlord to it... cite a city ordinace or something
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars points excitedly at Vonliege!
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'd do that
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is grandfathered since it is pre 1960
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not sure that applies to electical compliance..
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I bet if you claimed you were electrocuted (complete with trip in ambulance) he'd have to fix it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: yeah 2 prong outlets were out like 10 or 15 years ago....they are a fire hazard
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: A risk of fire doesn't go down because the house is old :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: perhaps get a quote from an electrician as to how much it would cost to fix and then pass it on the landlord and see if they'll take care of it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this isn'
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this isn't a trivial improvement to the electrical situation in the house, it's worthwhile imo
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: this IS in the US, correct?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well in MN they are grandfathered
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: centeurylink is only US, von :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: grandfathered only means that they aren't required to go through and change everything once code made it illegal
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: as many liberals as there are in MN... you should be able to find a sympathetic ear
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: although a change in tennents may override that
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Scars.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filippa Tech: Teklor, check 'help tags'
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the idea is that a private owner shouldn't become a civil criminal due to a code change
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: although, to sell the house, you may be required to bring it up to code
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well i would assume that state person that approved the dwelling for rental would also have to have approved the outlets
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you make a formal complaint/request to the land lord, with serious concerns, he'll most likely at least do /something/.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... I got to go with "not being a criminal"....
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you COULD manually ground your stuff, though... use the three pring to two prong converter, and actually wire it to a ground.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the path of least resistance is this, imo... Get a quote from an electrician.  Pass quote on to owner with a request to either pay for all or most or part of it.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's legal
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: see i was actually thinking about that part
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wouldn't do any meaningful electrical work on my own, but i'd rather shell out $ to hold someone else accountable for screwing it up
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that was my reasoning behind hiring movers
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: god was it worth it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yea i don't own the house. and some outlets are grounded but not all. back to the original idea here. i want to get as much out of my $45 (or how ever much it cost) install fee from centurylink
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: see if they'll install connections in rooms and not just a modem
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i want extra cable, rj-45's, lineman set, anything
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod that is what i am hoping
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you get connections installed in rooms, the need for additional cable is surely reduced
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have no clue if you'll get it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: frankly, with wireless the way it is... why?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: could just throw up a wireless repeater if the signal deteriorates too much
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: a bunch of my computers don't have wifi
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i bought a linksys wireless network card that connects via usb for pretty cheap years back
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: surely you could get it still?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm just suggesting alternatives, btw, i think your currect approach is a good plan a
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sure i could but i like me some copper cabling in my house
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i like to see my layer 1
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i used to be that way
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: plus i have this 40port procurve switch to learn how to use
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: then i moved 5 times in 3 years and decided that was a lot of work and gave up on it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if i moved 5 times in 3 years i might consider living too much work
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, it wasn't the most fun
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just long enough to actually unpack each time
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: unpacking only takes about a week
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: irrelevant though... when i get myself a situation where i'm more stable in my living situation, i'll probably put out the effort to truly wire the house
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you'd also do well to get one of those cheap things to plug into an outlet that checks the outlet...3-prong outlet doesn't necessarily mean it's grounded...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that is a very good point
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: good call
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: a lot of them are GFI outlets and i assume those aren't grounded
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in a house with both 2 and 3 prong outlets, it means that the core wiring was done as a 2-prong, and later they added or replaced outlets...you can pretty much only get 3-prong now, so the OUTLET is 3-prong, but who knows what it was grounded to
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod. there was sets of 3 wire cables coming to the fuse box
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so at least a few of them are grounded
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm _should_ be grounded
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for Mapper portals... is the default setting to auto-adjust for Tier?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: TY
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: so I had to install a new motherboard and reinstall windows 7 to go along with it. whenever I go to sleep and get up, or leave for work and come home my computer is turned off when I arrive. fans not spinning etc. have to press the power button to get it to turn on, but when I do it instantly goes to my desktop. all my programs/windows are still open. any ideas on whats going on?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: power management
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hibernating?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: going into sleep mode
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: it's hibernating
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: and that disables the cpu/video card fans?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I think the fans usually turn off when the temperature is low enough... and in sleep mode very little heat is generated.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anyone know of a simple way to bring right click capability to the output window in aardmush?  such that I could right click on a player name and select a menu item to automatically open up a note addressed to him? (this is a standard zMud feature)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so xbox one, what's the deal w/ used games?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how are they going to implment re-selling digital licenses?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: they don't
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: games have to be registered, and internt is required to validate each time you run them.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: all games are digital licenses now, though
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: they said players can still trade-in/re-sell though.  how does that happen w/ a digital right?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: if you buy the game from someone beside the store/used store its worthless
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: like i said, they confirmed ability to tade-in/resell, so how is that going to happen?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: even suggested ability to do that at a retail presence like gamestop
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the implicatoin is that shops like gamestop will "re-issue" the licence... but less than 10% of their shops are set up for it, and mom-'n-pop shops are completly shut out
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: resell key that seller gets from net and allows buyer to use key to gain ownership for the game.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: the store can put new license number from company
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably something like a digital license will be reissued, maybe the original one decomissioned.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: whats stopping anyone from doing that?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's a ridiculous move to combat piracy.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there are also no provisions for replacing the hardware code on a game... so once it's register to a box, it can't be moved.. even if you get a new box
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i'm wondering if it's all going to be through xbox store where msft and publishers set the credit/price for surrendering the license or if they will partner w/ GME which has chokehold on US used game mkt
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but von just links to XBL account
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so whoever has the account can log in on any box and play with the disc, or wait for the DL 
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the xbox one assosiated the hardware code of the box (like a MAC address) to the game
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: then again... I'm getting all my info from sony sites... so who really know... anyone have one yet?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ... XBox One isn't out yet.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: someone has one
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think they associate the game to the account, and associate the account to a home box so that other accounts associated to the home box can also play the same game (handles families.. multiple users on same box), but portability is keyed to your account so you can play anywhere
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think I read somewhere that Sony is cutting ahead and presenting the PS4 first.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: etzli is behind :)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They did the reveal just this past couple of days... only people with an xbox One right now are devs, and they didn't get the boxed model, only a barebones devkit
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is also in school and studies most of the time so has no need to worry about anything.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but the mystery to me is how they are going to invent a digital license re-sale market...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if it's a pship with GME that stock is going to double
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well lord knows XBox has been lagging... and what the hell is up with Nintendo?  have they completly abandoned the 12 to 90 gage demographic in favor of the seseame street crowd?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I think the market is as perfect as Gaben could have asked for from Santa
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: without a closely competitive market, inovation and development will tank.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Microsoft's current business model is corporate-wide integration a la Apple. Which is why Windows 8 looks like it does, and why the new xbox looks more like a WMC box than a gaming console
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i can imagine a world where xbox one gamer can surrender his license to xbl store for credit, but who sets the credit amount?  How does publisher 1 get paid if the credit comes from surrending publisher 2's game?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They want their computers, consoles, phones, tablets, everything looking and feeling identical, so they can get MS-bois like there are Apple-bois now
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: still the game was paid for so why should they control anything after that?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Awww, Deadpeasant thinks first-sale doctrine is still a thing, how coot!
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: im ignoring what "should" be, I'm focused on what "is" and what has been confirmed by MS spokespeople
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: you won't actually own the game you will just be paying for the rights to play it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: companies (in the US at least) no longer sell products, they sell services
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Enter the new channel: Debatech
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: its better than buying a pay to play game then getting ripped off to do anything in it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: MS said:  all games install to HD.  Game is linked to your account.  Xbox has to check in with MSFT every so often or games disable.  And player can trade-in/re-sell games.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how the **** can the trade-in/re-sell mkt work, unless it's a pship with GME?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Is it so difficult to type the artner in partnership?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 1
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: they should make cars like that. every time you wanna drive you have to ask microsoft
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: or ford
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You realise anti-theft measures exist where that is a thing?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: msft also said it's going to be super simple, easy for customer, etc.  This makes me think it's some kinf of marketplace on XBL.  But how can that possibly work??  literally it blows my mind.  i must be missing something.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: this pretty much completely eliminates being able to buy a "pre-owned" game at gamestop
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22623010
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is all online... and requires a lending fee
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: all games are just a license, so a pre-owned concept doesn't exist
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: While you are speculating on tech, you could be googling and get your answers...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, that was all walked back
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: do you have to log in to play single player?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Last updates... 2 days ago, after the launch - when was it walked back?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: or you could google level 2 and see what was originally said is not what has been confirmed
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yesterday
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: can google almost anything so why bother talking at all?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyone can appear smart when they google something.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you probably need triple-platinum-gold-super account to sell games, which will cost atleast 500 dollars/year....knowing MS
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Last update 9 hours ago http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-05-23/how-gamestop-is-trying-to-survive-the-xbox-one
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: When was the walkback, again?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it was yesterday, for the second time
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So less than 9 hours ago?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because in the US, 9 hours ago is earlier than yesterday
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: in the us 9 hours ago was noon today
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not for me. :D
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have Penny Arcade also 23/5 saying identical things
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: around noonish :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli pats Digitalis on his head.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the article was written 9 hours ago.  hundreds of articles have been written.  the walkback was yesterday, for the third time.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Where is your evidence, I'm sure the tech journals would love to see your apparently superior sources!
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The silence is deafening...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: google it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what do I win for bothering to prove you are a dolt?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: forget it, I'll do it for free:  http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-05-22-phil-harrison-tries-again-to-clarify-game-ownership-second-hand-sales-and-always-online-in-xbox-one
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Your link contains identical info to the ones I discussed - to lend the game to another person, which is to say not using your account, because you are using your account, they must pay the full price of the game.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: ok so you need a team of lawyers to trade in a pos game. thats cool
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Uh, no...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: After getting burned on SOTS II and Legends of Pegasus I pirate all prospective purchases
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If it is good, then I buy it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wonder how Gamefly will make out too.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the question is how can they possibily implement a used game trade-in/re-sell market, which is what they confirmed?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They were not doing great even before the concept of dead used games came up
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: they dont really want to though. thats the plan
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You trade via M$, and only via M$, is what has been said in all the links and releases so far linked
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: tech they dont really want to though. thats the plan
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well they said they ARE, so they are.  they already have it figured out, I'm trying to get there myself
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Can you read? You trade in via the M$ online system
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: they want people to think that so they dont look as douchy as they are
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If Gamestop is involved, they simply take the code, give you the points, and then send the code to M$ the same way you would have
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It isn't rocket surgery
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: next theyll charge buy the minute
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: then when vr get really good theyll take your whole body and make you a slave irl
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: vak, but how does that work?  I buy disc from gamestop for 60 bucks.  it installs on my hard drive.  Xbox is agnostic to whether i have a disc or downloaded it, it just sees a license.  so now I want to resell it.  Do I surrender it online for credit?  MSFT credits me $30 even though I bought the disc from GME?  How does MSFT recoup the $30?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Where did Gamestop buy the disc from?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Magic Disc Land?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: publsiher A
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Who paid royalties to who, exactly?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: this is about the time Korrdel comes in and say "Get this bickering CRAP off the TECH CHANNEL!"
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: GME gest $10, XBOX gets $10, publisher gets 40
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so you see, it's not simple
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A lot of margin assumptions there... your trade in assumption is that there is no comms between the M$ store and the publishers in the event of a trade in
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is exceedingly complex when you get into the nitty-gritty. But the concept from this side is exceedingly simple
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but there are multiple publishers.  If I Trade in game from publisher A, who pays publisher B for the license i purchase w/ my store credit?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How does it work when you buy a game from Target and trade it in to Gamestop?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: GME gets everything publisher/msft get zero
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Right - now M$ is the middle-man and they take a cut
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: gme buys theg ame or gives me credit and re-sells it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Exactly - same deal with M$ now
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but msft can't sell "used" ilicenses.  no such thing.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it works with discs.  not with licenses.  there is no difference between a new an dused license.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They can adjust their inputs and outputs in regards to licence sales and profits given to publishers now
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because 100%... ALL transactions now flow through M$
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a pre-set variable in Aardmush for what's on the clipboard?  one that I can use in an alias without making a script?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There is not, Vonliege - only scripting functions
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What exactly am I missing here? Why do you have to buy this dreck in the first place?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: TY
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i surrender publisher A game to msft, who pays me $30 credit for it.  msft is down $30.  I buy game from publisher B for $60 using my credit + cash.  I don't see how this can work.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: they aren't actually down $30 because they don't pay you any real money...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Say a publisher sells 10,000 licenses new. That means M$ has had their hands on 10,000 transactions. 1,000 get traded in. That means in the next cycle, they withhold the pass-on costs of those 1,000 trade-ins from the publishers.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is currently in operation right now in retail, it is known as markdown claims, and is used primarily for broken deliveries or warranty claims handled pre-manufacturer claim
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so you stick msft with the risk of a publisher BK?  
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: these financing details may be a bit esoteric for some people, but the short answer is that they never pay out, only collect.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If the publisher goes bankrupt M$ just scored the ability to sell their games for 100% internal profit until the tradein values are met
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: does anyone know which file contains my maps from my old PC mush client i want to transfer them to my laptop is there anyway to just add it to my current map files?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: usually aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And merging is quite difficult
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: aww :(
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: let's assume publsihers never markdown games, and surrendering is worth 30 and new is at 60.  MSFT issues me 30 credit for surrending publisher A's game.  I buy publisher's B game for $60.  MSFT would have to take 50% of the economics of the sale to recoup the $30 credit.  This would radically change existing splits, btw.  Publisher B makes less money b/c publisher A games are beign turned in?  I don't see how that can work.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: what if all games were turned in at the same time?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the problem i'm seeing is that once you turn physical into digital, used game market is a 1-way street.  can't sell "pre-owned" licenses for discounts...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: who wins?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: No, they recoup the $30 (or what is left of the $30 after accounting for profit vs costs) from Publisher A, from publisher A's next sale
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but msft must have a workable plan or they wouldn't be confirming it.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that might work, though publisher insolvency is a risk.  need to noodle on that.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Assuming 100% cost:profit, if you trade-in publisher A's $60 game for $30 and buy publisher B's $30 game, B still get's its usual take. When publisher A next sells a game, the $30 is deducted until negated.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If a publisher goes insolvent, M$ still sells the games. Only now 100% of the sale is M$'s
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: what if ms goes bankrupt?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the games would be property of publisher A's BK estate, not msft
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if random house goes BK, amazond oesn't get to sell books for 100% profit
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Say that again Deadpeasant?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: theyd prolly get a huge bailout
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is because you are now talking about physical media
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Digital is a whole new ballgame
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: as long as the intermediary has the right to transfer the license and the ability to do so, there is no real difference between license and physical, in terms of reselling.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes Sonshi, but Amazon would be in trouble if it decided to print new copies of Random House books to make up for a bankruptcy debt :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: except that you can recieve more money with less spent which you can then move into system like trade-in
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: what I would be interested in seeing is for one of the major companies to heavily restrict reselling, so that we can see if that results in a price drop in practice...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: yeah right
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Without decent competition (like the new Steam console) those profits will stay inhouse
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you'd be in trouble whether or not you did that with physical or licenses, as long as you're handling someone else's ip...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: give all the power to the dictator so we can get more welfare
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not true Sonshi, simply because selling a digital copy to make up a bankruptcy debt will most definitely be in the licencing contract with M$
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, either way you can put it in the contract... that's a contractual issue, not a physical/license thing per se
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: Loving the tech channel tonight. Thanks everyone:)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: In Russia, the tech channel loves you.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and not in a kind way! *run*
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: And how unkind.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: what if you wanted to trade your game for illicit drugs?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: lotta pot smokers play xbox
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: ah welcome to the cold depressing world of microsoft
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: hey guys just wondering in mush client how do i make my client save the previous command i entered into the command bar eg. i typed South and I wanna keep south in the command bar instead of it dissappearing
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can either use the up arrow, or Game->Configure->Commands->Keep Commands On Prompt Line
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, no, Auto-repeat command, not keep
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: hey you can mud from an iPad right?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: i figure it's not much differen than an oversized iPhone in that regard
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i think so
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: anybody have mushclient error where the communication log stops getting output?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: it shows me a Run-tim error in orange with a code traceback and then stops working
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: is there a way to increase the text size for mush client ?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you can use Alt+Enter then Output tab
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: wee nice.. thx alot.. getting old
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lucky you
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: Greetings.. where can I find a plugin that sends a message to gtell everytime I request and complete a quest?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean probably sharptracker
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just google it
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: how do I use variables in aliases?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: like peoples names and stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on where the alias is defined
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: in the Mushclient 
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: what do i put in the mushclient to store peoples names to use in the return box?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: how do I use peoples names in aliases?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm looking at getting a 10 inch android device. Is there anything better than the google nexus that I should look at?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends exactly on what you're expecting from your device, really. Are you set on android?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, already got 2 of them before...
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: my ipad is the only apple thing i own.. love it though.. a buddy has a huge galaxy tab and he likes it, cant really say
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I can't stand apple stuff, and same for windows.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm gonna use it mostly for watching videos and reading books and documents.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: ipad is really a the leader in that medium
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then the Nexus 10 is probably your best option UNLESS you're looking for something like the Transformer, that has the keyboard dock
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My 7 inch nexis is a bit too small.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mc Cruentis Tech: i can't wait to buy a iwatch for christmas 
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pixel density on the N10 beats out the ipad =p
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would actually like a 10 inch e-reader, but those are really expensive (and no video).
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, another thing to consider would be one with a digitizer/pen. 
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Only problem I have with my nexus 7 is that is the build quality, it's a piece of plastic junk, imho. The ipad is much more robust.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 10" ran, not 7.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: even jailbroken my ipad is somwhat limited..but for books and netflix i love it
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right. Just saying.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I want the full flexibility, I'm a linux user :D
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So get an android tab and run linux on it.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Android is linux.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, it is not.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: android is android.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Linux is a kernel. Android has a linux kernel.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which does not make android linux.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is no OS called linux, if you want to be specific.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: DISTRO FIGHT
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair. I was more referring to the push to run Ubuntu on android devices specifically - though I think other distributions have been implemented as well
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, I doubt they will be a success except for niche applications, tbh.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Unless, possibly, they implement support for android applications.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. which is kind of sad. I'd really love to get a cell phone that could double as a light weight PC connected to monitor/kb/mouse
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, it runs under android. It doesn't loose support of android apps
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ubuntu runs _under_ android? Sure about that?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In that particular instance, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LOL YOLO Gruagach grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There seems to be a ubuntu for android app, but that's not what canonical is pushing.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/ubuntu-on-smartphones-what-you-need-to-know/4095
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I was referring to ubuntu for android, yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: kk
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres no available phones to my knowledge running ubuntu exclusively.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: would be preferred to have a single OS vs the android for ubuntu setup though, if implemented well
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think right now you have to install it yourself, you can't buy a phone preinstalled.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: most of the good android OS dont come preinstalled
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've never seen a phone for sale without an OS...
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: nope, but plenty of them have shit versions of software
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Language, Gru
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: yes ma'am, sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No ma'ams here.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: oh just assumed cuz of the sand
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeahhhhh no personal attacks either.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LOL YOLO Gruagach sobs in misery.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The nice thing about the nexus devices is that they have an up to date OS.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'll probably try ubuntu on some phone I retire, just to see what it looks like.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But I still doubt it will ever take a decent market share.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: My only issue with that is to be practical needs to be a device with a dock for kb/monitor/mouse to be worth doing
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: All I really need is a terminal with SSH, I can probably get that on android too....
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To get a portable work/play PC, that is.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: heck you can get that on bb
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: bb?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: blackberry
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Blackberry, yep
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chromebooks, too
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: We don't have bb here (sweden).
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lol?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: never heard that one before, i travel a lot.. bb is one the most common devices i see abroad
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, maybe a few imported ones, but they are rare.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nokia and Sony Ericsson were totally dominant here, then apple and android came.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BB was never sold here, afaik.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey anyone happen to know a good free android mud app?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: Blowtorch, definitely
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or if you search aardwolf on andoird market, theres a customized version of it
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: cool thanks so much
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: my buddy has an android and used to play aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: I'm wondering why i can connect to aard without having to loggon to my wifi, doesnt seems to go with all muds.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: youd have to be connected to some internet to connect to aard =o
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: nope :)
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, that's kind of how it works. Without a path to the server running it, you'd be unable to connect.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: i didnt have to login to my wifi acount, like i just stated 
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I mean I suppose technically it could be run locally, or on a lan, but neither of those are likely to be true of aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And like I stated, you have to be connected to the internet somehow.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is this from a phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there are other ways to have internet. Not just wifi
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: well its the only thing i have, if want to acces http sites i have to log in on the hotspot, and not for aard, but thx
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Prekursive Fraktal is still confused.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then it will prolly go via your phone's data bundel
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Frak.. that's how it works. If you think otherwise, I suggest you learn a bit more about how it works.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: sorry i was askng how it works
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And yet when told - you disagreed, and simply said "nope"
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: ok sorry for bringing this up then .. the only thing i noticed is that i can turn on my pc.. not login to my hotspot.. open a brouser and it'll say *no internet connection.. yet aard will start.. found it odd thats all
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: what file holds all the mapper data for aard mush...i want to reinstall mush but don't want to lose any of my map stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: aardwolf.db, usually
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: check the upgrade website.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: but Vakieh is correct
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Keep the .db and .mcl files and you are usually good to go
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But you will have to manually add any new plugins that might come in
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: whatever you do I'd start by closing mush completely and creeating a zip backup of the entire folder
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: yeah i'm going to make a copy and stick it in a safe place
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That sounded dirty...
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: how come when i transfer my mapper database to my new folder it wont update?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: all my mapper database is not uploading into my new mush client folder
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you follow the directions on the aardwolf website?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yeah i did for some reason its not working >< and when i open my old mush client my mapper is brand new for some reason...
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is your world named the same thing?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yeah ...
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i think i took the wrong back up > <
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: because ive explored alot of places but now its all gone for some reason even from my backup mush..
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: hey can someone help me with a little problem please
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: maybe, maybe not
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i have this problem
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it the same problem as earlier, or something new?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i get this msg The adrenaline rush wears off. {affoff}97 Your mental barrier breaks down. {affoff}126 how do i get that affoff 126 away?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either use a spellup script, which will use that message but hide it from you, or turn off tags spellups
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yeah but i get it in help files as well
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: {helpbody} {/helpbody}
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you had used a helpfile capture plugin, but aren't now
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: how do i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: its catching my eye ><
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, use the plugin again, or turn off the tags
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both of those are valid fixes for it
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags...those are the things which you can turn on/off {stuff}
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: can i turn it all off?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but it is not smart to, when you're using a client
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ahh ok
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags are meant to be on but never seen
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I like using the roomobjs and roomchars to see
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help tags explains how to turn them on/off individually and as a whole
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but since a couple hours ago you were talking about moving to a new MUSHclient folder, I think that the only reason you're seeing those tags is that you have not enabled the same plugins that you had in your previous installation..I'd bet Bast's spellup and Bast's miniwin_helps
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: how do you make an alias that will send commands to the mapper and not to the mud?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that lets you use an alias within an alias
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the mapper commands really are just aliases
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if botting were legal, how much time would it take to hit t9 r7?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 weeks
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: o/
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.. any reccomendations on a good shop vac for computer-cleaning purposes?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: vacuming out old desktops, and the like
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: honestly... I never liked the idea of having something blowing/pulling particles that fast across potentially sensitive electronics
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: actual, working computers, or junk boxes that are there just to keep parts stored out of the way so nothing damages them?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: How would you suppose to clean out mass quantities of dust in a large volume of pcs
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: keep them in clean rooms?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught snickers at his own evil thoughts.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I mean, legitimate question. Presently just using compressed air.. but the dust is causing me sinus problems, so was hoping to get something to vacum vs just blow it out
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Get a air cleaner. 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Define air cleaner, ranrr
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: do you mean an air filter?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe it's called an air purifier.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they make handvacs dedicated to electronics care.  They're really just handheld vacuums of the normal housecleaning type, just with smaller hose/attachments for getting into tight spaces.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That doesn't get the dust out of the systems.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Once of these devices with an electrostatic filter.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod hans.. thats about what I was looking for. something specifically for computers. But suitable
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah ran. that doesn't clean the pc =p
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right. But it you have an air purifier, you won't need to clean your computer.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ran.. it's not my computer I'm worried about.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its the hundreds of desktops I service during a week
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, you'll still need to clean 'em.  They're like black holes for dirt.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Get some breathing protection when you clean them.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only goes so far unfortunately. and doesn't stop my workspace from getting dusty, so i'd need to wear the mask all day
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: this one looks suitably expensive: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=599909&is=REG&Q=&A=details
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol.. suitably expensive? =p
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well in the absense of non-suspect online reviews from actual buyers, I subscribe to the position that you get what you pay for (generally)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Requiring bags is kind of a second thought about it
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just take them outside and blow 'em out there
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: here is a few of them: http://www.staples.com/Computer-Vacuum-Cleaners/cat_CL141480
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not an option, unfortunately abe
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: problem is I'm not seeing a lot of reviews
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: or I'd be more helpful :(
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: maybe... http://www.epinions.com/Vacuums/skp_~1/dl_~/search_vertical_~all/search_string_~computer%20vacuum%20cleaner
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Honestly, tempted just to go buy a shop vac for like the garage.. small 2.5hp or something.. but i know no esd prevention, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: honestly I've never been in the market for one. Any time I've had a tower which needed cleaning, I generally tackled it with q-tips and various supposedly-electronics-friendly liquids
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that'd... take a lot of time.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well not with one tower
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I've rarely had multiples
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the vacs aren't intended for use for heavy cleaning.  They're basically just reverse versions of canned air.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I have multiple laptops... but those don't break out well
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. It's not one system, unfortunately. Taking 50+/day on busy days
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: meh, esd isn't really an issue from a shop-vac (although when you CAN take them outside, a shop-vac in blow mode with a reducing attachment is great)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, we've already got large compressor with air piped in to the shop. just trying to find an option to keep the dust down
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: if you're having trouble with sinus issues, you may consider some sort of face mask kinda thing...
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats already been mentioned onslaught. Only helps so much - and doesn't stop the area from getting dusty.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ah, sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: if you're having sinus issues, my i suggest you get gender realigement and become a man
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at LOL YOLO Gruagach's remark.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if noise isn't an issue for your workspace, could probably buy a shopvac and a customized array of attachments to set up to suck dust from the air as you blow it out.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Last I checked sinuses were something that both sexes had, Gru. Maybe if you got close to a woman sometime you'd realize that.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can probably buy and ESD classed shopvac, if that's a requirement. It'll probably cost 10 times as much as a regular one.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: an*
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unlikely to be one. Will check with my employer though.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a quick fix for dust collection, assuming noise isn't a problem, is perhaps use a hose vacuum/shopvac attached to a clear plastic bag.  In theory, the bag would corral the dust you're blowing out and the vac would suck it out.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Any reccomendations on test prep materials for PC certs? I've heard of Transcender.. and I know O'reilly makes good books.. but any other names to look in to?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: uhh, triple a?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Triple A?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: anyone using the blowtorch client? is it playable given the small screen sizes even for samsung galaxy s4?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thats very much as personal opinion, Justar
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I use it on my razr
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I mostly just use it to log in and chat
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: im thinking of using it for qsitting at level 1.. not sure if anyone has any opinions on the playability?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it's free. Try it out. if it doesn't work, no worries
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: with runto I suspect you'll have a very easy time of it for quests at 1 though
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: thats true, thanks.. was just lazy to go through the process of installing it 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am sudenly getting a binch of extra 'behond the scenes-looking' information in my output window.. I suspect that I have inadvertently tripped a switch of somesort, but there is nothing obvious to indiecate WHAT at teh point the extra data started.  I am using Ardmush, and here is an example of what the extra output looks like:  {chan ch=auction}Auction: Devol is auctioning.... 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: looks like you've disabled teh channel catching plugin that puts channels in a different window
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: That looks like gmcp output, like gmcp debugging is on
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: the 'extra' information is supplied by the 'tags' command and should normally be parsed out by the chat window
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: good guess, but I think it's something different... my inbentory is also in permenant "invdata' mode
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: try just 'tags off' see how it is then
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: help tags, see if that explains it
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: It was the triggers... My triggers somehow got diabled
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: which is odd, 'cause I can't think of a single reason why I would do that on putpose
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: hey guys i dont know how to post a error without typing the whole thing out in the boards can i just post the error here its a error with aardwolf_disarm
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: This sounds like it could be client related so yes here would be the place.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ok here i go
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: Plugin: Aardwolf_WeaponSwitch (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: Immediate execution
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...esktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\sqlitedb.lua:134: attempt to call a nil value
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: tack traceback:
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...esktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\sqlitedb.lua:134: in function 'updateversion'
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...esktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\sqlitedb.lua:95: in function 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...esktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\sqlitedb.lua:53: in function 'postinit'
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...ri\Desktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\eqdb.lua:227: in function 'initialize'
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\objectlua\Class.lua:19: in function 'new'
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: [string "Plugin"]:159: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: [WARNING] C:\Users\Sabri\Desktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\Aardwolf_disarm.xml
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: Line  402: Error parsing script (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: oh well..
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Maybe summarize next time? :p
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: oh sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: or post to pastebin.com and post a ur
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: url*
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ok ill keep that in mind
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: http://pastebin.com/arHKcMcJ
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: so anyone have any idea with my problem?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not sure what it is, but did you try rebooting?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't listen to him. :p
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using Bast's eqdb plugin? It looks like it errored out trying to update the database schema in a Bast database file, which is stored in MUSHclient\logs
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: all i did was download the zip file unzip it into the my plugins folder and tried to load plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: im getting error with nearly all the plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may be that the database file was partially created when you tried loading it when it was in the wrong spot earlier, so I'd delete (or just move) that database file and let it be recreated
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: do i have to exit mush client?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, OK, there's a difference between getting lots of errors from lots of plugins, and "the weaponswitcher one isn't working"...
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yeah i tried weapon switcher , eqset , eqlookup 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: the miniwin plugins work
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: let me try what you said
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all the ones trying to use the eq.db file...
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which may all stem from the first time you tried to load disarm
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: still getting the same error
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i even tried it on a clean install of mush
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i give uop
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: so does anyone else use any eqset plugins?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of people do...the issue is in Bast's sqlitedb.lua file. It looks like he changed the bits of that file that are causing the error at the end of March
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: how do i use a script file that ends with .tf?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrung Tech: it's for tinyfugue mud client
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sgurbuz: go here: https://bastmush.googlecode.com/svn-history/r2032/trunk/Bast/lua/sqlitedb.lua...copy/paste that into a textfile that you name "sqlitedb.lua" and replace the sqlitedb.lua file that's in C:\Users\Sabri\Desktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then try adding the aardwolf_disarm plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: anyway i can convert it so i can use it with this mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ><
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: mushclient uses a totally different setup than other clients. I'm learning that the hard way as I'm trying to learn how to customize my own, heh
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So you can't just convert scripts from other clients
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: To be fair I wouldn't expect different clients to do things the same way.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, basically all clients use totally different setups than all other clients, it's not that mushclient is the different one...
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Well it used to be that you could convert things from some to others, but it's been years since I've tried
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only exception is new clients which are based off previous ones, like cmud is a zmud successor (and zmud based itself on tintin++)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can still do that today as much as ever
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: zmud is based on tintin? or just the scripting lan guage
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Scripts can be written in similar languages, but I wouldn't expect much more to be common unless they are derivatives, as Abelinc mentioned.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, you could only ever do that for basic stuff, and script complexity is worlds beyond what it used tobe
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: that's for sure
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue comes with a "tintin compatibility" library, and aard's MUSHclient ships with a slight z/cmud compatibility thing, just for things like #alias, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Huh, I didn't know that. About the compatibility thing I mean. 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spend some quality time on the wiki part of Fiendish's site for lots of info on the AardMUSH package :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: angone know a good method of self winding a set of wye configured coils?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k thx ne ways
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sgurbuz: have you tried using that other version of the sqlitedb.lua file?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: why is my mapper not using my gold rush portal when im trying to portal there instead it used honey comb?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it only uses what it knows about
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: dafuq 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kev Tech: on the Mushclient when you download the updates what folder do you unzip the updates to.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a new one
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saenchai Tech: hi, when using MAG with mudlet, I'm getting carriage returns in the main window whenever there's a new chat message, even though it shows up in the chat window.  Is there a way to fix this? 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is truecrypt or luks your personal preference?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: truecrypt
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: anybody use bast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yes, yes I do!
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lots of us do
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I have them, but they caused issues
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: see im not the only one
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Who said you were?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I haven't been able to get any of them to work, usually when I enable one another script it seens to rely on fails  =(
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Which ones are you trying to use?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: spellup and combattracker for starters
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and you've been following directions here: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Installation
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I'm a newbie to be sure, if those aren't worth worrying about I'd take any suggestions  =)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: yea it gives me a runtime error on enabling in broadcast_kills, says it calls a nil value
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: me to
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I use winkle's spellup plugin, not sure if there's much difference between them but for spellup refreshing you could try that instead
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It could be a bug, you should submit it as an issue.  I've never seen that error, but possible it just shows up on a new install.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/issues/list
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If it's happening to both of you.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: would it be better to work with an original MUCHclient for plugin use, or the one slightly tweaked for Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: 100% better to use the one built for Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: always use the aardmushclient
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: ok, its what I have- I'll try out winkle, thx  =)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: so I'm trying the bast plugins again. Is there a command I can type to get rid of the window that shows the latest changes? I can't do a right click on it, screen reader isn't cooperating there
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: All I did was install the stat one but it put that window up there too
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Bast is showing online. You might want to try sending him a tell.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Will do. Just figured I'd ask here first in case someone knew
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Ok, for now just removed the update checker, not sure why it installed itself but it removed happily enough
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: anybody know how to grab a toolbar that has its grabber area out of the world display?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: in case anybody was curious many of the Bast plugins I was trying were making calls to another script to check/update versions that was returning zero values, commenting out the check in that script has everything working great now
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: using a fairly vanella aard mush client - typing note list on the ideas board disconnects me
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Pagesize too big?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: don't think i have any pagesize set, things just scroll till they are done
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Set a large pagesize, like 300?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ideas board is very large
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: I'll give it a go thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: is there anyway i can log goals im doing with aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: there is a logging function for the aardmush
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: can you guide me to it please?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: click shift+ctr+J
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: hmm...maybe I shouldnt have checked that...include 499999 lines from buffer into log file
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ouch...
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: how come when i log it logs the map and the room desc cant i just log the directions i went and the commands i used?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: does anyone know how to make the map smaller in aar4d mush client
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it is so large I can only see three boxes on the screen
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it logs everything your mudclient would get
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: mousewheel?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: which map wario?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: interesting, #586172 gquest in beginning of buffer and now, #586578.... so only 400gquests in last 500k lines
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: the one that you can click on to go to different locations
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: in an area
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: normally yyou can right click or , as vuron said, mousewheel will work
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: tried mouse wheel and right click it doesn't give me a second window
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: click the top left of that box though i think
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: should be a * symbol
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yeah but room size is in gray, won't let me adjust it
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: there that did it
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto tosses Prince Wario up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: is there a decent mudclient for Ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient, of course
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mushclient works very well on wine, so i have heard
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Or tt++ or tf.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so gammon and Fiendish both use ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: does Ubuntu support dial-up networking -- seems to be missing from the helpfile section 
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: where do i go to download the dial-up programs
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: system -> administration -> networking...connections, modem connection
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Abelinc: that's assuming he's using GNOME I guess?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter, it's troll questions anyway :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: the second computer here is configured for broadband -- the version is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS -- unsure whether Gnome I is installed - unsure where to access the: system ->
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how to turn on the spell checker in mush again?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anybody? 0.o
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't use mush, use zmud, and the spellchecker is so awful i wouldn't use it anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: zmud sucks mush is the shit...and i want to use it
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: clearly you'll have no trouble turning on the the spellchecker then
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: File>GlobalPreferences>General>EnableSpellCheck
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there like a auto practice plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: not that I know of
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So somehow my mushclient has gotten to where when I add new plugins, or even edit existing ones, it's saving the exact path and looking for that during future reloads instead of just the relative path. Any clue how to fix that, or is it possible to fix? It became a problem when I moved my mushclient folder from an external drive to my hard drive, but only with recently added/editted plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try closing MUSHclient, opening up the world file, and changing them to relative
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you add a plugin which is outside the plugins folder hierarchy, then that will have to have an absolute path
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: It wasn't. I have no idea why it saved it that way, heh. But I'll fix the wolf file. Thanks for that
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: world file rather
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh, apparently it fixed itself. I loked at the file without editting it with mush open and there were the absolute paths. closed mush, reopened it, everything was relative again. strange
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: now if I could just get the setting to hide the visual map to stick I'd be great. hehe
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's everyone's favorite Windows photo management program? Picasa?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erie Tech: I've heard good about gimp
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a photo management program
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: For maintaining a library ?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an editor
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erie Tech: sure, you can edit and publish photos
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not getting what a photo management program is :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I gather Picasa it is! :)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Are there iPhone SSH clients?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, lots of 'em
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my favorite is the non-free iSSH...it's a telnet, ssh, VNC, RDP and X11 in one
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Is there a way in mush to have several pattern matches for the same trigger? Or do I have to make separate triggers for each one? I'm editting a plugin file, not using the dialogs
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: You can use variables and regex if the triggers are not too different from each other I think.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Ah. This is trying to set up a sound for double xp starting, and there are several patterns there. Wa hoping I could just put a few different matches into the same trigger, but if not I'll just make separate copies
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: anyone able to tell me why my bastmush statmonitor wont work?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Won't work how?  Does it install?  Does it not respond to commands?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: wont install
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have you leveled or killed mobs?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What does it say when you try?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: but if i ctrl shift p and add it its not there the next time i control shift p
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: the last line is Line  717: Error parsing script (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So you install it, and what happens?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: i have the bast folder in the right directory for sure
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry no clue what could be causing that.  I'd type up the steps you are trying, and put the whole error messae intoa note for bast.  He's online, but not sure irf he's around.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the real error is higher up than the error parsing script...paste the whole error into pastebin and put the link on tech channel
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so what is the practical difference between a PCL5 and a PS printer driver?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: pcl is "lower level"
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what circumstances would you use each?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: when the other is unavailable
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and if both are available?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: ok so i pasted on pastebin : http://pastebin.com/jPhVW53u
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: or when you write ps/pcl scripts ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Was my understanding PS gave better results. Though I think its largely an adobe vs hp thing now
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: something to do with trademarks that allowed PS to generate better curves in lines
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: =h 15
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: more like 12 years ago
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PS for professional and portable results, PCL for 98% of uses
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PS also giving a little more consistant results... difference between something like a prerendered PDF and say a doc file... PS will give a consistant result regardless of printer, where PCL will give different results based on device
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, PDF is a superset of PS
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does that include consistent results with colours, daloran?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for equipment that are meant for consistent colors, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for anything you have access to, no
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: hp printers implement ps using pcl
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, plenty of HP printers with true Adobe PS
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is there any performance difference?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: memory use etc
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PCL will be faster
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: maybe the "professional" ones
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: was unaware of PDF/PS being related, other then Adobe connection. Today I learned.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: abelinc
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, like NeXT computers used DisplayPostscript as their video format while Macs (post-Steve's return) use DisplayPDF (Quartz)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: abelinc i posted the link to pastebin for my statmonitor error
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: combattantx: go here: https://bastmush.googlecode.com/svn-history/r2032/trunk/Bast/lua/sqlitedb.lua...copy/paste that into a textfile that you name "sqlitedb.lua" and replace the sqlitedb.lua file that's in C:\Users\Sabri\Desktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it looks like Bast changed his sqlite lua file in March in a way that breaks initializing some of his db-using plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: if you comment out the update check line with -- in the sqlite script the rest of the plugins will work fine
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the original? the rollback works as is (or did for the issue loading aardwolf_disarm, haven't tried with statmon)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: actually i get another lengthy error message with the instructions you gave me, abelinc
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: it says near the top sqlitedb not found
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I just had a few of the Bast plugins making a call to sqlite for an update check that returned a nil value, if thats the case you can comment it out so it doesnt run if you experience that issue
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, you'd of course also want to ignore the fact that I used the c:\path for sgurbuz's computer ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: yeah well i figured that much out.. i put it into the appropriate folder worlds\plugins\bast\lua
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: seems to still be a text file
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, that's Windows being stupid
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: and not a lua file even though it has .lua extension, do i need lua installed or something?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you don't need lua installed, it's because Windows hides the real extensions on you...I always turn that off in Windows
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so whenyou called it sqlitedb.lua, it was really being named sqlitedb.lua.txt
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: lol so how do i make it a lua file?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you in XP, or are you on Vista/7?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: 7
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: you can hit alt then tools>folder options>View> then uncheck hide extensions for known file types
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: then you can clearly see what extension is going on with your naming
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in 7 it's in the file menu
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: which file menu
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: all i can seem to get is properties
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, it's Organize menu, folder and search options
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then view tab, UNcheck hide extensions for known file types
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: woohoo
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: think i got it to work, still got an error message but its no where near as long and i think its just because i havnt done any questing/lvling
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: let me try a quest :)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: yes! it works!! thank you abelinc :D
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: and all others who helped me :)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: hey does anyone use cmud and able to successfuly get the same layout and plugin function as the aardwolf mush client?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: why would you want to? if you get same functionality for free with mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: because there is a bit more functionality in my cmudt that i've for many years.. so its still free to me
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are cmud packages to do the same things that MUSHclient provides, it's just not packaged in a preconfigured form
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look around the repository within cmud
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: yeah i know it can do the same.. im just not sure what it is im looking for because i don't know everything that aardwolf is sending to clients
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: ill probably have to read the plugins on my mushclient and find out what its sending
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? you wouldn't need to do any of that
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm talking about browsing scripts that other people have already made for cmud
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if you ever look up my cmud tuts on youtube(in my finger) you can see my layout, but each person likes their own
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: why wouldn't i? unless the pcakage you are referring too are already made for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes kagaho, they are
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: hadar i already have but you don't have the package for share you said already
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud has a built-in Internet-based package repository system, where you can browse for scripts that other people have made
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: nod abelinc then i just havne' been able to locate those ones
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: thanks ill try searching the repository instead of the forum
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the layout is not that hard to recreate, all the ones i use un modified by me are in the cmud library
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: last resort ill try to make them from scratch.. but i haven't mudded or used cmud for about 5 years
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: hadar abelinc has already helped and covered what i asked in a very direct manner thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, if you haven't used it in 5 years, then you were incorrect in your statement that your cmud has extra functionality ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: abelinc has high cognitive abilities =)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: nah it still does.. and the main functionality is it's purtier =P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH will be ahead of your existing setup in every way, and you just said that you want to replicate the appearance, so you're disagreeing with yourself about which is purtier ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's not much that CMUD can do that MUSH can't, really, and a couple extra things that MUSH can do that CMUD can't. :\
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: the layout appearance only
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is a heavy CMUD user, by the way, so you can't claim I'm biased.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: it's only because it's private software still.. until zugg decides to open it up
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: etz: any chance aardcharn can come back somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Which he won't ever do.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aardcharn is up, I just have to remember the page again.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: maybe.. just have to convince him project donations to keep it running better than dead obsolete software
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: gosh haven't played this in ages :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can try, but zugg is not going to give out the code, or open it up, someone boned him once which makes him even more cautious
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i know someone boned him.. but if he is no longer having a successful busines
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: it would make sense to just make it open source project eventually
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: it will get there i think
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if your cmud wasnt selfreplicating bot, I wouldnt go back to 5 year old system with aardmush out there. And even if you did bot for cmud. you could make so much better with mush. without spending any money
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: then that would bone people who paid for the program, it would have be to a whole new project for that to happen
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: wouldn't bone any of us that paid for it.. becuase it's not being a developed project anyway.. and not every software has FREE updates for life.. soooo.. no bone
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: and i already own
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: unlike many i never used hacked versions of zmud or cmud i went straight from telemate to zmud and i owe much mud experience to the efforts
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, he already boned the free updates for life people by renaming the project :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dang you, Zugggg! *shakes fist*
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: as far as my scripts, if people want something i have ill normally give it out or put it on the library
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: do you realize how long zmud was around? i hope you're being facetious because new things are new things and in reality he didn't bone no one
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: new things are new things...and it wasn't :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: its k hadar got it covered since abel told me about the package library thanks for all help
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i told you about it also, its called library so thats how i refrence it :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: sure zmud new thing cmud /thread =
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Purrrrific Growltiger seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: according to zugg cmud was a whole re-write, i was too young when i used zmud to know a lot about it
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: v3 was a whole rewrite as well...
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wasn't a new product...software gets totally rewritten between releases all the time
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im not arguing that its a different program, im just stating where kagaho is coming from being that cmud is different
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: you're splitting hairs and i sense too much butthurt about it lol
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, why would I be butthurt, my client has been free and opensource since before zmud was a bedtime dream
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: tintin?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think very many people would've had much of a problem if he'd just said "sorry, but I can't afford to stick to the 'for life' license and feed my family"...but pretending that it isn't zmud 8 was stupid
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: nothing wrong with paid software either.. paid software keeps open source software alive 
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even older than tintin
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: using telnet? lol
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: cmud looks quite a bit diffrent from zmud.. and i dont think many people were that mad anyway.. unless well they were silly.. you could even get cmud also if you bought the zmud recently hen it was released
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I agree, nothing wrong with paid software, provided it's value-added and not sleezy and barely supported...cmud 1.x was certainly nothing which shouldve been considered non-beta
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: make mushclien tnot ugly and i wont have to use both =)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't look any more different than simply linking to a different library provides
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: the clients look a lot different
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, it looks different...much like XP with XP theme looks different than XP with Classic theme ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: lol not so sure about that.. but one thing is more familiar to me.. and therefore more comfortable thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: man i lag like crazy when my quest trigger procs just because i have it with a beep =(
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: beepbeep
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hm, should be able to have it be async
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: ill check it out
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: find out why i lagged when my sound triger went off.. same reason a lot of my stuff will lag.. programs on ssd and then they pull data off my old hdd =P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, prolly had to spin up the hdd if you're running most stuff off the ssd
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: hmm, my Mush is on my HDD and not my SSD- maybe thats why I get some lag heh- thx for your discovery  ^_^
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy the sound file into mush's folder
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: heh hdd just for storage
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i moved the sound file
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: grae how can i disable google spellchecker in the aard mobile app
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is none
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Spelling words correctly effectively turns it off. Just sayin'.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: There are a lot of words used here not in a standard dictionary!
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: LOL (owned that kid)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: After Not Guilty Kojiro's stupid remark, A Piece Of Herodotus baps him upside the head; he DID deserve it.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Does anyone use cMUD and have an exp/gold tracker?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli raises his hand.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have ya checked the in-client library?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {This Tier} Time: 43y 4m 23d 5:34:30 Levels: 657 Pups: 3 Exp: 4,568,576 (1,920,021 bonus) Kills: 19,744 Gold: 79,509,521 Trains: 2659 (1048 bonus) Pracs: 7222 Quests: 837 Campaigns: 58 (24636 qps) Trivia: 63 Bonus Stats: S{25} I{43} W{44} D{26} C{41} L{29}
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: oh good idea
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {This Mort} Time: 1m 7d 59:15 Levels: 85 Exp: 638,915 (285,449 bonus) Kills: 2,586 Gold: 6,710,946 Trains: 359 (169 bonus) Pracs: 845 Quests: 234 Campaigns: 10 (6906 qps) Trivia: 11 Bonus Stats: S{5} I{2} W{10} C{5} L{5}
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pay no attention to the 43y. I just didn't reset the time on it.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: is that how old you are?!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you've been on the tier since epoch
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: wow 43 years "{
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: .:P
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mine takes a bit of setup and outside files, but it'll always save the file and you don't have to worry about corrupted variables.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: check out the package library for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Been tier 4 since before Aard existed.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My tracker (which is completely self-written, sadly), reports year/lastyear, month/lastmonth, week/lastweek, today/yesterday, tier/lasttier, mort/lastmort, level/lastlevel, and hour/lasthour.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: didnt go as far as seconds and mins then i take it :P
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at [Outlaw] Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I thought that would have been taking it too far.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Campaign Completed} Time: 19:35 Mobs: 15 Qps: 26 Gold: 21,478 Trivia: 1
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Quest report} 837/837 (100.00%) Qps: 22,680 Avg per quest: 27.10 Gold: 2,619,385 Pracs: 131 Trains: 41 Trivia: 10 Daily Blessing Qps: 405
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, I got super bored, wrote everything in Lua...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: Last Quest Time (0h 0M 21s) Rewards : 10+2+1 = 13 QP 2734 Gold
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why have 'h' there? No quest is going to take you an hour.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i dunno bored
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: cannot be bothered removing it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could...The Administrator tells you 'You have 60 minutes to complete your quest.'
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: which reminds me i prob should redo my campaign one day
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, but by the time that 60 minutes is up, your quest is failed, so really, you couldn't complete a quest in 60 minutes.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, you could get it in under the wire
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But would it equal 60 minutes?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: dam needs work Last Campaign Time (0h 4M 44s) Mobs (10)  Rewards 26 Qp  8811 Gold 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or 59 minutes and xx seconds? :p
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd have to look back to see the last quest I let expire, but I think it's on the tick like other quest times, which would allow it to be 60 mins, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. Fair enough.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: wouldn't it fail once your qt would have hit 0? That is, it goes from 1 to fail.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there any reason in my plugin why one of the triggers wont call one of the functions in the script file?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't undercut your time, so if it's on tick, it would be 60 full minutes and then the next tick
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does it do, and are you sure the trigger is firing?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it probably does undercut your time though... if you request just a second before a bi-tick and get 60qt, it will go down to 59qt in a second.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah trigger is firing but the function only seems to work when i put it in the actual trigger but doesent use it when i put it in the script file
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and qtimer does run out on a tick
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yes, if it fails on the bi-tick after 1qt instead of going to 0qt first, then it's less than the stated time... never noticed if it went to 0 first or failed after 1qt though.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: can someone help me with http://pastebin.com/4e8Ja5dZ im not sure what im doing wrong
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 1) escape the brackets in your regex. 2) tell people wtf is not working and what you would like to have happen
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: actually, that bracket shouldn't be escaped... but why is it surrounded by []?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No need to escape the brackets...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: correction, yes it should, there was another closing hiding in there. Still, [)] will do funky things
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The [)] is to match the ddd) in rank 15.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im trying to string.lower %2 so that i can refer to that section in the table but its givving me a whole heap of errors
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It should just be \).
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I don't mean the capturing brackets Etzli, I mean that stray [)], which should be escaped
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \s+\d+\)\s(\w+)\s+\w+\s+\d+\s+\d+\s+(\d+) -- that's my regex for rank 15...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But I don't capture the .dd bit.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Easy to add, however.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://www.regular-expressions.info/ and http://regexpal.com/ ftw!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i have no problem with the capture, its the converting it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: so that it will refer to the right section
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I like to use ?<capturename> myself - makes things nice and easy, and less prone to screwing up capture indices
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So you're saying it doesn't lowercase the 2nd parameter?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ?<capturename> won't work on regexpal though, you need to add that afterwords in Mush
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it does, but when i try to use that lowered parameter, it tells me there is no six variable to be referenced
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, because you're using it incorrectly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: x.six, it's looking for the name 'six'.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You need to use x[six]
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So in your case, ClanStats[six]
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh so the [] indicate its a variable?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Otherwise, it thinks 'six' is a key in your ClanStats table.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh okay thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I never use the send portion for anything more than a literal send. Do you need to use the wildcards[] format in a send block?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And really, it should be ClanStats[six]["ExploredPercent"]
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not ClanStats[six].["ExploredPercent"]
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But yeah, your regex is a mess.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yay another errorr.. [string "Trigger: Rank15Trig"]:4: '<name>' expected near '['
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im trying to fix one of abelincs scripts
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not skip all the hubbaloo and just do: ClanStats[string.lower("%2")]["ExploredPercent"]?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay will try that
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ExploredPerc, whatever.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: why not just use ClanStats[6] = {}, ClanStats[6].["name"] = "%2":lower(),  ClanStats[6].["ExploredPercent"] = "%6"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Vakieh...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 6 can be a variable holding a running count also, so 1-10 can fill with the same code as you increment
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto forces a gag into Captain HR Vakieh's mouth.  Ahhh, blessed quiet.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unless I completely misunderstood exactly what you're trying to accomplish
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah you did
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He wants ClanStats["name of player"]["exploredperc"]
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So he can pull up "ClanStats.remarto.exploredperc" to show his explored percentage.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Dictionary tables ftw!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ok, so why use a 2d array when a list of objects makes more practical sense?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it works now, i dont really care what makes more sense aslong as it works
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nothing worse than learning bad habits early on... will bite you in the backside down the track - like when you want to do some sorting or whatnot
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: as i said im fixing a downloaded plugin so i dont understand how half of it works
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I do excellent sorting with my dictionary tables.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My mafia database, for instance.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: mafstats["Etzli"]["CitizenWins"], etc.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah would be nice to be able to look at that and how you collect the data
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I can sort all that by top wins.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Top Ten in Mafia Wins] 1) Trurien (102) 2) Jhav (63) 3) Liathum (60) 4) Krypteria (54) 5) Electrobite (52) 6) Kalista (51) 7) Amie (49) 8) Vanion (41) 9) VelvetLies (40) 10) Leges (39) 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: aww im not in there
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The Mafia data, I collect via Mafia board.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Mafia Stats] Remarto: Mafia (W:7/P:20), Vigilante (W:2/P:4), Police (6), Doctor (8), and Citizen (W:12/P:29). Alive/Games played: 25/67 (37.31%). Team wins (M/C): 8/17.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh not far off top 10 then
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Eh, you're closer on vigilante than you are mafia. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Top Ten in Vigilante Wins] 1) Trurien (10) 2) Liathum (5) 3) Krypteria (5) 4) Katta (4) 5) Lemontree (3) 6) Electrobite (3) 7) Sybacco (3) 8) Gunsnroses (2) 9) Ade (2) 10) Etzli (2) 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i wonder why we cant use 2. 3. etc for targeting mobs
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 'bs 2.guard', etc.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: not what i meant hehe
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i mean how im 1 since im walking and cme to rom and everything else is 2. 3. 4. etc
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: makes for faster killing just used to it is all
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the answer is simple, no need to further make it easier to bot
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that makes botting kinda easy
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should know what you're killing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not just make it bot-friendly and give every mob the keyword 'mob'? :p
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: know what im killing when i see but i like having my hand on my numpad
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't know what you're killing if you can't be bothered to tell the MUD
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So do I. It's why I've remedied that. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: anybody use a plugin that gives an indication of how many mobs in the room and what their hp levels are?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: macro an area attack spell
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Redryn.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to keep using "study" in order to have any indication of the MOB HP levels...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you only get the general health of the one you're currently aiming
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is non-trivial to script around the keyword issue, but it is doable.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and other than a database running off either past experience or interrogate, you wouldn't know that a MOB has 1000 HPs, rather than "is at 100%"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: All it takes is knowing the damage of 1 round with % change to calculate hps
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty large slop margin with that method, but if it's good enough for you :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I care more about their level than hp.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: study is fine, I was just curious if there was something that would make it easier to see if I AoE bomb a room what targets are taking more damage to focus on etc... 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I generally wouldn't recommend area attacking
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: i've been trying to get better at it, its usually much more involved to stay alive  =)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: in 99% of cases, the lower level mob will have lower hp - look at the damage your spell does to see if something is taking more from a particular dtype and go from there
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chain-killing using non-aoe will be faster as well as safer...attack the next target before the first is dead
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you get the rollover damage and don't lose any time, but are using the more-damage-giving spells, and wasting less time quaffing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: requires more attention than just stacking a room though...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure about "faster"... charge does a good job of clearing a room faster than I can backstab each mob.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're a T4 pthief
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not the same as a SC psi
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my advice is generally "until you're of an experience and power level that you can discern WHEN it's a good time to ignore my advice, you should listen to it" ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: My advice is to have fun...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: fun BAH!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, but pre-sh low tier, yeah, chain attacks are better than area
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: the only slight anomaly may be high luck/dex/str high tier, assassin ... it levels very well even through 1-199.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: but its a slight different mob selection etc.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: well as a newbie Psi direct definitely works better and is much safer for me, I just figured if I could AoE and pick off low hp singles at a certain point it might become more efficient 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: but I think i'll stick with single and stay alive
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aim an attack at the next guy in the room a round or two before the first one dies
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay ive got a table full of tables how would i sort that table buy the contents of the tables
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: by*
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a way to sort subtables by a common value?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Anybody want to teach my how to do advanced triggers on mush? (I'm very good in zMud)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-shift-alt-L
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Gammon has youtube videos - for everything else, there's Lua
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: which phone is best for mudding?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: one with ability to connect to the mud
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess a physical keyboard would help
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: whichever one you can tether your laptop to.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: gonna buy one from work, we arent allowed to use computers from work.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then its unlikely you should be mudding from a phone at work either
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: I-phone 5 any good?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: anyone tried it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: iPhone. not I-phone
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: i guess ill ask someone with knowledge.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Among other things, I sell phones for a living. If you are afraid of learning, get the iPhone 5. If you want the ability to control wtf is going on with your phone, get the SIV
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abernacky Tech: I'm 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: thanks vak
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: can i tether my bb with blaupunkt 7inch tablet though wi-fi?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Can you turn your blackberry into a hotspot? If so, then yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But blackberry is dead :-(
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: wow! cool my bb got hotspot on os 7.1
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Blackberry is very much not dead, Vak.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you can hotspot, you can tether - just be aware some networks detect it, and either block, throttle, or charge insane prices
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abernacky Tech: I'm trying to find how to create a touch screen button in Blowtorch for inputting the enter command , for paging ? 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: ok ty, ill test it with the tablet at the shop before i buy it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Daloran, much like Delphi, yes, it still exists - it might make a sale once in a while - but it's still dead.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ab.. does #CR work in blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak... No it's not. What do you base that on?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The critical drop in sales revenue, which of course leads to a drop in available assets for R&D, which in today's electronics market = dead
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Their only hope is a Nokia merger
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: bb is very popular here
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how can I make an autohealer script?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Prompt trigger, or gmcp
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Rather, how can I make a variable to detect my current hp
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abernacky Tech: #cr doesn't seem to do anything 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tymas, you can just use the GMCP data sent by the mud to Mushclient. I'm someone who uses MC will shortly tell you how to do that.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As of march, looks like they were up about $100 mil, vak.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_(company)#Financials
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dat operating income drop
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah that article in wikipedia is a bit off.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The referenced site for the sales numbers only goes up to early 2011.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: Vakieh does the internet speed gets slower when tethering?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's what I meant by throttling - some networks detect tethering and actively slow it down
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: oh i see , ty
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I meant on mushclient, how can i track my hp
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a way to sort subtables by there values?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a way of sorting subtables by common values, please say there isnt if there isnt
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: don't understand what you mean...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i want to sort a table of tables by the values in thoes tables
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: assuming you mean a dictionary, then it's impossible to sort them by anything
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto mutters something quietly to himself.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i dunno what you mean by library
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: dictionary*
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is your table indexed or keyed?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: keyed
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then by definition it has no order
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: so to sort it id have to make it indexed?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what are you trying to do exactly?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay i have list of names, each has a table attacked to it all in the one table, but each subtable has the same "keys" but different values, i want to sort the names by the values
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: remarto: try something like this: http://pastebin.com/auCt0iRz
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: is there any way to make aardmush autosave? Keep losing changes when my computer hangs...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well... couldn't find anything like that in preferences...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd set a timer to do it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it seems like the real answer to his question is "no, not without code"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: pretty sure he was looking for a checkbox to say "auto-save every X minutes"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh. So no easy way?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't say without any code, and it's a VERY easy way...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: easy is a relative thing... if you don't even know how to make a timer...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, I don't see anything about saving in timers...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't know how to make a timer, you should quit. seriously.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: up top, in the window, there's a "timers" option
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it's VERY easy, all you have to do is to take the one ring, travel into mordor...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: suppose i should quit ;)  I have never had a need for a timer
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how to make THIS timer is simply a matter of knowing what function to put there
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not having need for one is not the same as "can't figure out how to make a timer"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it's very easy, all I need to know is how to do it, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I suggest youtube videos as an entry point - never quitting: http://www.youtube.com/user/Jainh872
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have no idea what function i'd use to save my settings tho, so while i could create a timer (which is pretty straightforward)... i'd end up having to google or use this channel to figure out what to do next
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're in world config and see something called "timers", with a button that says "add", and when you click it, there's a place to set hours, minutes and seconds, then you're a moron if you can say that you can't figure out how to make a timer
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is Nick Gammon's (the programmer for Mushclient) uploads, including some very nifty and expertly explained mushclient tutorials.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't say this timer, you said don't know how to make timers
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i didn't even know "timers" were an available thing until now
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I can't seem to make it send ctrl-s...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: world.docommand "Save" is what the helpfile on "Save" says
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: eh, trying help in mushclient just gives me an error... so execute "world.docommand "Save""?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think you'd want note
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wups
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and read the error that trying help gives you, sonshi...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that error as well is trivial to fix
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, I need to download something from microsoft. Been putting it off
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now you won't have to suffer with lack of helpfiles (although the entire helpfiles are on gammon's site in html as well, so c'mon)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so I sent that to script, and got Run-time errorWorld: AardwolfImmediate execution[string "Timer: "]:1: attempt to call field 'docommand' (a nil value)stack traceback:        [string "Timer: "]:1: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you typed something wrong!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That would be M$'s silliest decision ever - let's make everyone upgrade to this better tool (a good idea) by breaking the existing tool (the dumb idea)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Lua is case sensitive: it is DoCommand()
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: M$'s silliest decision ever was to take a mobile OS and put it on PCs and laptops
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: doCommand, docommand and DoCOMManD will all fail
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh. I just copied and pasted. heh
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The Functions list in the Mushclient help menu is seriously the tits for this sort of thing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... no more errors. Thanks all!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there we go, make that just Save()
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, it's supposed to be Save()?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err Save("") actually
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi crosses his fingers and hopes that actually saves now.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: looks like world.Save should work...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they likely all work
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would bitch if it weren't valid commands
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: the world. is assumed - it is the global space for a plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i see it now
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the example includes the ("")
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Save("")   -- Saves under current name
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Scars.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ah, okay. So no errors means... it's doing something, and it's probably the thing I want.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's a decent assumptions 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: easy to check, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, it didn't create any other files, so probably works.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's been saving using that every 5 secs and I've been watching the mod time change
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, right, that.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and since I don't use MUSH, there's no reason for it to be saving otherwise ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: forgot about the modified time thing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you save ever 5 secs?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that seems...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: overkill
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it being 8.30am, I'm not exactly sharp... I ought to shower and get to sleep soon...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did to test this...as I said, I don't use MUSHclient...the only stuff in my MUSHclient is stuff that I've put there to test answers for here
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hopefully by noon
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh, i misunderstood you then, i thought you were saying that you saved your tintin settings ever 5 seconds
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you use tintin, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, that, bad memory
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course, Sonshi, the correct fix would be to get your computer to stop freezing, not to save MUSHclient more often ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, if only I could figure that out, I'd be happier
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't ever have tinyfugue save
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm confused why you wouldnt have your client save
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what should it be saving?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I used to think it only happened when playing videos... then it happened a few times while just looking at news articles and stuff...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: aliases, triggers, scripts in general, display settings, that sort of thing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: stop looking at news articles and stuff, that should help
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any scripting stuff I do, I do by editing the files outside the client
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's saved before the client knows about it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: froze while checking my email a while ago too. Luckily it autosaves...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: interesting, so each script is a standalone file that you direct tf to?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and saved in a much more logical manner than a list of stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, same as most of the MUSHclient stuff...each plugin is a standalone file that you direct MUSH to ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the idea of a plugin is a new thing to me, i still think in a zmud/cmud fashion where you made classes and put crap in those for organization
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and many of us write MUSH plugins by editing the textfiles, the MUSH editor is horrible
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Notepad++ works great for Lua editing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even in zmud/cmud, though, you have standalone scriptfiles that you load
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although then they get put into the main world
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i never did that, i always entered it in through the editor
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you've never downloaded anyone's scripts
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the only zmud/cmud script i ever used from someone else one of ninja's scripts... and i'm pretty sure i copy/paste the code into the editor and sent it in that way
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i suppose i just misremember
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i suppose i could just misremember*
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, z/cmud were funny with script importing...some scripts worked with load, some had to be added other ways...danj had some info about that on his site iirc
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: does anyone use Winkle's Search_and_Destroy?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: occasionally
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: it seems to have so many nice features but goes crazy on me all the time
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: does it work ok for you?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: yeah, I haven't really been able to get everything working quite right either
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: mainly just use the ht command when trying to single out a mob
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: oke thanks 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Eh so to be clear- winkle's isn't against the rules or anything right
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, never really screwed with APU computers, but I got me a ASRock FM2A75 Pro4 MOBO which is SLI/Crossfire enabled, and I'm using a AMD A4-5300 APU for my GPU/CPU, what sort of restrictions would that put on the 2nd GPU? IE, what models am I limited to for CLI/Crossfire?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: SLI*
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I mean, I could probably still put a Titan or something in the 2nd slot, but I'm wondering if it'll just downscale anything to match the max of the integrated AMD Radeon HD 7480 of the APU
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: In Aardmush, I have a trigger     \[CP\]*   regular expresion and enabled are checked.  It works 80% of the time.  why doesn't it work all the time?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Figure out what is different on those 20% of the times. I suspect maybe an extra space, or the text is anchored or something small...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can you notice a pattern in when it works/doesn't work? and what's the purpose of the *?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: now that you mention it, the * is extrenious, since the capture text will always be on the end of a line
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the * doesn't even change anchoring, as it actually means [CP]]]]...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have been looking for a pattern for a couple days now, and it eludes me
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and regex is never anchored without using ^ and/or $
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: maybe I should strip all the non-capture characters and click the "use regex" button.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the * in regex means "zero or more of what is just to the left of me", so that pattern would trigger on [CP as well
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if "use regex" isn't checked, then it's not a regex
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you're using your knowledge of regex to try to make a glob
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the radio button is checked... I was refering to clicking the "click to convert to regex" button after I took out all the non-capture characters
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: which would, of course, require that I also first uncheck the rtadio button
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO it's almost never a good idea to click convert to regex
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: see... that comment about what exactly the "*" character does was helpful
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I bet there is an online compendium of what ALL the characters that I have no clue about do.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HELPFUL!?! damn, I've gotta watch it, we don't want THAT
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: this is TECH... not Q/A =)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: helpfulness is allowed
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: all that unclick-strip-click did was add the two "anchor" charachters that you talked about
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: AND it put back in the "\"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and it passed an "echo [CP]" test....
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: we'll roll withthat for a while
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's just a highlight and a bell sound, so not exaclty critical
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it added ^$, then it would ONLY match a line of "[CP]", not match [CP] at the end of a longer line
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, just figured out why you wanted it...oracle
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone have any experience on SLI/Crossfire with an APU primary CPU/GPU?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it count that I read that and immediately had Babylon A.D in my head?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: no bonus damage on first attacks to sleeping monsters?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a simple way of sorting subtables by common values
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Remarto, what client?  Language?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lua, mush
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what do you mean by common values?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So you have nested arrays?  You looked at table.sort.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: table of names, each name having its own similar table but ust different data
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: just *
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: umm, so you want the main table sorted by name, and you then want all the same names sorted based on a subtable field?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but not sorted by name
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you very likely would need to write a custom sorter for that.  I don't think any system sort routine has ever allowed you to apply two different sort criteria on the same dataset in the same operation.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wrote you a function to do that earlier, remarto...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i was disconnected before i got your answer last time
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: at least it'd be a relatively simple affair.  Just break apart your main table into separate tables, sort those, then build a names table and sort that.  You'd then rebuild your main table by iterating through the names table and inserting each individual name's subtable (I suppose you could do that all at once in LUA instead of iterating through that list as well?).
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: what's a wildcard expression in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: or what is the wildcard expression
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the *, or regex.  Depends on in which context you mean.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i want to make a simple trig based on who im attacking
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: so a wildcard blah blah
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: basically want a wildcard for mob name
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the * is for blob matching, which you do in the trigger/alias/etc editor in Mush's UI.  If you are using regex, while you can still use * there's also a whole suite of other wildcards you can use to more precisely match what you want.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: okay i think the asterisk will be fine ill test that thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: okay that works
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: to give you an idea of how silly you can get with regex, the current regex pattern (in general, not specific to Mush) to completely handle all variations of a date/time string allowed by one's configuration settings is something like 5 pages long.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: ill have to study up at some point heh
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: coders can get unbelievably bored.  They find things like this to offer an interesting distraction.  See also: obfuscation contests.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: just for kicks I installed tintin+
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: it's been so long since i used it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Know what I do just for kicks? Play hacky sack.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: is there any plugin to identify/store in DB all your equipment?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: anyone use tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: type clients
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: but i can't find out who they aare with that
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: is every damaging skil like coded the same with diff damage mesages only?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There is overlap, but different skills and spells work differently...
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Shouldn't make any difference to how you use them though
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: like cobra hydra seem exact same
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: dirt kicking and trip are the same cept dirt can blind
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i dont even see ar eason to use circle and thats sad
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Check out the help files for each skill/spell - different stat builds will get better results for one or another
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: but my circle is so weak i just use cobra and hydra before that
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not to mention different mobs will resist one or another more or less strongly
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: yeah i waiting for more exposure to them mobs
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: higher level skills tend to supercede some of the lower level ones.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Circle is a level 9 skill... where cobra and hydra are 63 and 51... why would you expect circle to be better?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: because it shouldnt just be a level 9 skill.. it should be one of my subclass main ability and scale off my damroll level etc
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: getting soemthign higher level shoudlnt make it exactly just stronger
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's not how things work - you will find skills and spells are very very tied to levels you recieve them at
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: then some of them are working just plain wrong 
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: In the case of most damage giving spells and skills, that is what happens. Things you have to work harder to get (higher level) tend to be stronger. :) It is life.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: not exactly
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In any case, the higher level of circle you are looking for is spiral
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: You can post an ideas note with your suggestions of how the mud should work? :)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: you not understanding the contect jaenelle so just nevermind
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I am sorry?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: how long and how many muds have you played anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Aardwolf is aardwolf, don't compare it with other muds :)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This is one mud where confrontational 'there is one right way and it is my way' will get you nowhere
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: no one is comparing.. im asking you a question
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: so that way you can not be blockheaded and understand the contexts of my questions
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: Don't worry Kagaho Not everyone is a dick on here.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I didn't find it relevant for the question at hand. :) And it isn't very polite to call people 'blockheaded' for not understanding your questions :(
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Attacking a former imm who has 2001 as her creation date as a 3-day-noob makes you seem like a troll
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: someone with such a strong sense of how things "should" be could perhaps start by asking questions on question?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Just a thought.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i think you are all getting a bit butthurt for no reason.. she was rude.. i wasn't saying something should change.. im saying it was odd for a skill not to increase in power just cuz it was attained at lower level
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: and attacking and being rude to a newb just cuz you got thousands of players is rude too.. just a thoguht
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: skills do increase in power with level. No need to be rude here.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: and who was being rude
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How's about we leave this channel for tech related questions, and take this to gossip or tells
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: everythign was tech related until they started being flamey
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: You think that's flamey.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: because it seems the general consesus is that new players should know everything here and not ask questions
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: It was already suggested to you that a good place to ask questions is the question channel.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: You ignored it.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wayward Cloudie Tech: hie, does anyone know how to reset mushclient's map of an area?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: mapper purge?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think it's under mapper help, at least.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wayward Cloudie Tech: for just one area?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: mapper purge area, I believe. Not 100% sure. But the instructions should be under mapper help anyway, or mapper help purge.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli doesn't use MUSH, but knows a thing or two about it.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wayward Cloudie Tech: alright, thanks. i'll go try it out
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wayward Cloudie Tech: yup it works. mapper purgezone (area)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wayward Cloudie Tech: thanks for the prod in the right direction (=
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Always.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: No matter how decent I think I am with computers... the printer always outsmarts me. :P *clicked print with double sided print... got /3/ pages double sided, and 80 single sided....*
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: lol ..
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: u are killing trees
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Is it just me that is too stupid to use a printer, or anyone else seem to spend time fighting  with the stupid things. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I'd perfer to blame the printer for killing trees. :P And I'd perfer to think of it as I'm supporting the timber industry :P
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: printers suck
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: printers do random fun things. like print first page instantly but wait 3-5 minutes after each page after that when printing over network
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: they are givein u sneak previews
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: And then there are programs with their own print settings that are separate from the printer's print settings... so if they are both set to two per page, sometimes you get 4 per page. :P Or 'rotate' sometimes that goes all to hell. especially adobe printing. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the whole PS and CL5/6 thing
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: changing CL6 to 5 fixed the print delay thing. still no idea why and what exactly is the difference between them
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: did i mention that i hate printers? it's the one tech that never matured
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Dagnir: faxes are even worse though ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: is there anyway way to make a variable for the last mob you where'd or using the search and destroy plugin for a mob so everytime u backstab it will backstab the mob you where'd
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: or is that considered cheating
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Trigger: [*/*hp */*m */*mv *qt *tnl] >        Send: if %1 < 4000 then Note "Hp is below 4000" end -- if
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: what is wrong with that
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: need to escape the brackets and slashes i think
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and the >
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: escape? remove?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah cause they are special chars in regex, thats if your using regex
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: using lua
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah this is for lua
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: regex, regular expression
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ah put it in reg exp then?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: If I label a specific trigger as Health, if the Send has this command: EnableTrigger("Health",False), shouldn't it disable the trigger?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming you're sending to script, yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it should i think, but you will need a way to enable it again afterwards
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and not sending that to the mud
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Its being sent to Script
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: But the trigger isn't being disabled :9
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: is that command in another trigger, or an alias, or what?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i your trigger fiering?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: its in the same trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Check the "matches" number in the corner, and make sure it's going up
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or add some other debug echo to make sure it's firing
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: its going up
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: The trigger is firing, but it's not disabling
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: examplt print("testing trigger fired")
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: try not capitalizing false
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes lua is case specific
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah that was it, thank you :)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotdot Tech: how can i view my text when typing using telnet
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: How do I issue a command via script? I only know how to use Note "..."
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Turn on local echo, Blotdot.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: a mud command or a script command, Tymas?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotdot Tech: how do i accomplish that heha
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blotdot: how to turn on local echo depends on what telnet you're using...is this a unix system, is the Windows command prompt telnet, etc?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: a mud command
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Send("blah")
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: via script
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotdot Tech: windows
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: what if the command I want to send is also a script command?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or Execute("blah") if you want it to check your MUSH aliases
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotdot Tech: i am using telnet from my windows computer
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotdot Tech: not very tech sav ha
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: What if the command I want to execute is a script command?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not sure what you mean.  If you want to enable a trigger, you do EnableTrigger(...).  If you want to send "north" to the mud, you do Send("north")
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: assuming you're using send to script
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What are you wanting to do?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think he wants to actually use a script file
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I want to use a command from another script file
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're using the trigger gui, there's a box near the bottom labeled "script"
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what do you mean by a command?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if you put something in there, it'll search your script file for that function
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I tried it but it gave me a compiling error
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Do i do Send("xxx") ?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No, just the name of the function
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: or Execute("xxx")
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: either will send a command to the mud
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: when i put just the name, it gave me a compiling error
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what error?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blotdot: on Windows command telnet, you'd first use ctrl-] to drop into the telnet interface, then you'd type "set localecho", then you'd hit enter a couple times to get back to the game.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: [string "Trigger: Health"]:3: '=' expected near 'Note'
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you sure that it's a command that you're supposed to be entering?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't just randomly use commands from scriptfiles
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay that means 3rd line, could you post that so we can see what we are dealing with?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then that's an error in the third line of your "send" box
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's from a plugin, then it may not exist outside the scope of the plugin, and would need to use a callplugin
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hes making a standalone trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think....
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ah the command i want to pull is from a plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, he's trying to use something that's from another script, not a standalne trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is it an alias in the plugin, or a function in the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if it's an alias in the other plugin, just do Execute("blah")
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or just send to execute
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I'm pretty sure he means a function no
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I'm not sure what it is, but it tells me how many potions I have left.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is it something you can type in the command line?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Actually Execute works
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Awesome stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: ah okay lol
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Thanks a bunch.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Very new to mush, feel like such a noob considering i use to be so good at zmud :(
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its okay, we all start somewhere
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's an alias in the plugin, and you wanted to use it in a trigger of your own, then just type the alias itself, and use the drop-down to set the trigger itself to execute...no reason to set it to script and then use Execute()
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: is there a way to get unique room ids for each room?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure, it comes through in GMCP room.info
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well I'm out, but help GMCP has links to the wiki, which give the basics on how to interact with GMCP.  Also finger me for some plugins which use it in mush.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: fingered you and saw no links??
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oops
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: copy and paste error on web must have broken that :P
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Good thing I have an alias to reset it :)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i don't have wiki access here but I will look at gmcp at home. I use mushclient and already have some plugins that use invdetails
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There are many other plugins, the wiki has the basics, Fiendish's plugins make extensive use of GMCP info, but they accomplish a lot so might be longer.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i should look at the wiki but my work here has it all policy blocked and junk
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: [string "Trigger: Damage"]:2: '=' expected near 'EnableTrigger'
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: what am I doing wrong
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: you're missing an =
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: where
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in like 2 near EnableTrigger
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: EnableTrigger("Damage",false)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: where do i put the =
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: line
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: its before that line then
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: theres nothing wrong with that particular line
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ah okay got it
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: what language is this btw Tymas
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lua?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ya
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: im answering based on it being lua so i hope so
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ancient scripting language of lore
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: I keep it close to my heart
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: nah lua is great for embedded systems. now python thats ancient
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I with Aardmush had more hot keys besides the 16(+CTRL) on the numberpad
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone built a mame arcade?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: all the sudden, I'm getting an extra line when I use the 'goto' shortcut for S&D... I generally only get "goto_number: 1", now I am getting that AND "xmapper move -1"... and a message that says "Sorry Vonliege, you can't do that."... what have I goofed up on?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: anyone using Aardwolf_Inventory_v3.xml plugin? I can't seem to get it to work
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried using bast's inventory plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: where can I find that
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the plugin you're trying to use was just created by Gammon as a "here's an example of how miniwindows can be made" and was never finished
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: no it worked in 2008
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast for his site...he has a lot of handy plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it did work, but it was never finished or really released
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: do i need to install all of these plugins for bast's stuff? there's a lot here and its all in one zip
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to put the entire folder into plugins, but you only need to install what you actually want
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: what about the lua scripts should those go in the lua folder?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: or as a subfolder in plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the entire folder goes into plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't touch the folder other than to do that
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: ok here goes nothing
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: man i really miss scripting think i might get back into it.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: can the ASCII map be exposed to scripting?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: abe you released anything interesting this year?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's as "exposed" as you need
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ascii map is sent from the MUD, enclosed in script-readable tags
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, nothing neat from me in a while...my tf has been pretty well-configured for many years, and the only MUSHclient stuff I put out is when people ask me to write something
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I ported Ozzy's zmud script for seekers stats, now Remarto's running away with it for boot :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I should publicly fix the two issues he had with it for boot in my copy though...the first is that I only tested on one-word clanrank names, and the second is actually a bug in Aard
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that bug being that roster and rank are inconsistent for people with weird name capitalization...StArLiGhT shows up that way in roster, but shows up as Starlight in ranks
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: heh just found notes on an old project i never started for someone looks simple but fun :)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're feeling ambitious, you could convert my early MUSHclient scripts to use GMCP instead of statmon ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: meh would probably end up like the last big project i started
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: 3/4 through my system crashes and i lose it all 
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: these would actually be quick'n'easy changes, I just never bothered cuz i don't think anyone uses those scripts anymore...the one that asked for them to be written stopped playing
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: anyone else having major issues with windows7 updates trying to fry their systems?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that I know of...I decline and hide the IE10 update tho
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: same but since micro started pushing 8 about every other week i have an update fail to configure and have to restore from a different reduntant drive
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: some of the stuff in bast's package conflicts with the existing aard plugins but im liking the inv/eq windows
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing conflicts with the stock aard plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: when using mush mapper is there a quicker way to teach it to go through doors rather than using cexits
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: anyone familiar with bast's spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I am familiar with it sometime
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: newchange: go to Fiendish's site, which is the homepage for the aard MUSHclient package (he maintains it), his wiki has lots of info on all the plugins...on the wiki page for the mapper, there's a link to a great guide written by Hosch
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone know where i can find a detailed guide about tearing down a lenovo ideapad x1 carbon? friend wants to know and i can't find anything
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Youtube doesn't have anything?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Does that guy's laptop tech repair manual site still work?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: google?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Here we go: http://www.tim.id.au/blog/tims-laptop-service-manuals/
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: the right half of my screen scrolls before the left. any ideas on whats causing this? makes things unreadable for a second while it does this
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: update video card drivers?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: wat
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard points excitedly at [Deputy] Mokg!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: easy problem, that I forgot the answer to
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: how do I switch around my command bar so that I type from the left to right again?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: some keyboard shortcut
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Smartass answer is look in a mirror as you type, but other than that, I can't recall.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: that IS a smart ass answer. :P 
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli beams with pride.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: bah, this makes aard so hard to play. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: what command bar?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: the one you type into
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: in your client?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: it's like ctrl+g or something super easy like that
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, hit ctrl+<all the letters>?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or ctrl+shift+<all the letters>?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wreck-It Roninleader pats Book of Etzli on his head.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's what I do. :p
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Anyone good with macros in word? ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: is there anyway i can edit my search and destroy plugin pathing
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The pathing is done by the mapper, not SnD
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i get so many not founds with that 
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ahh ok is there anyway i can edit it?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Quite possibly the most complex, but coolest mathematically speaking, code in the aardmush repertoire
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: because instead of going east its trying to open east
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In that case, you set an incorrect cexit
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: how you set your exits 0_0
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can delete it with 'mapper delete cexits' where that cexit starts. Mapper help for more info
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ok ty ill try it
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yep fixed the problem
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mapper help for any other mapper functions
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: how q i
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a way to see the current temp of a android phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude is thinking  maybe his lag is related to hardware issue
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: no lag on my bb
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: apply phone directly to forehead to measure temperatures.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: some apps or some battery indicator apps does show the temperature
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah cool ill go check the googleplay, thanks sene
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Is there a command u can type instead of clicking "Go" on the S&D GUI?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: ah or click the link on the gui
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: ah target name
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: when i type that, it does nothing, just says you seem unable to hunt that target for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: that means its the right one and you gotta do the hunt trick
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: or start walking around.. which iws waht i ended up doing.. faerie tales rough
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, the good old times where people wrote their own bots...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: bot? isnt that something that does something for you
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: you must have that scripted to say that not the first itme i heard it lol
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: so i can't use a command? I have to click on the hyperlink?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like to point it out every time someone has problems with complex scripts they didn't write themselves :P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: type ww help
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ah citizen says it'll walk towards the citizen..but i think that is only for non-campaign/non-quest mobs
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: When I click "Go", what command is it exactly executing?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: id say check his wiki but there's not much.. its just a go.. its going to the logged room wher ethe mob should be or something
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: it seems to work best after you walk all over
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: like i solved my issue in faerie tales but filling up my automap screen and explore it all
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: then i zoomed right through them
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: About cexit- you have to manually cexit every door?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Are there any glitches like if you walk manually through an already opened cexit door while walking around manually, does the mapper walk through the door (even if you've added cexit for it) when you try to goto it some time later?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and, better still, when using the mapper, custom exits take priority over other forms of movement
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think its that kind of code that allows you to take the most direct route regardless of where you are at
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the most annoying thing i have yet to bother to deal with is setting up a "recall didn't work, so try using a portal" type thing
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but thats out of laziness far, far, far more than inability to do such a thing
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mapper handles that natively in later versions
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Sorry I'm new- you guys use mapper to get back to Aylor?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use ` as a 'go to recall' alias myself
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: That's just a garbagecan alias or is it something catch-all?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well, it began life as a garbage can alias, but got a bit more robust
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: LOL that's a charming way to say it
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: How do I get a trigger to run for example if I type Note "test" Send will be "works"
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: using lua..
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: werent u the guy who was asking what a finch was
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Anybody good with mush/lua? i have a question
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm ok, quite a few are, better to just ask the question!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Okay so for example if I want to set a trigger..say for example: Note "Test" (a script version of test will appear), how do i trigger off that scripted version of "Test"
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have you looked at that page yet?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I'm looking..but don't know where to find the script activating trigger part
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: When you are creating the trigger, on the drop down where it says send to: chose script.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well usually I'd write, Note("It worked!"), not test, but you get hte point...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: that doesn't answer my question actually
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: In mushclient is there any way to trigger off a Note displayed from another plugin or trigger?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: In mushclient is there any way to trigger off a Note displayed from another plugin or trigger?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not without editing the source plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: PluginBroadcast is what you are looking for
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: what does pluginbroadcast do
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: broadcasts from one plugin to another
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Google it mate :P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: MC has a very well documented API reference both inside the client and at mushclient.com
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: What if I don't want to broadcast from one plugin to another? i want it to work with a trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That being said, the use of PluginBroadcast requires some rather solid knowledge of Lua, and the way Mushclient handles plugins, and I wouldn't recommend it for an early project
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You cannot trigger off a Note(), MC has built in functionality to prevent that. The easiest way would be to edit the plugin and change Note() to Send("echo "..foobar) then you can trigger off it.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Okay that helps
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: PluginBroadcast, send echo, and GetPluginVariable ("", <varname>) are the only ways to communicate between plugins that do not require the use of external files.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: how do i make a note with mush client for a area im in?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper addnote <foobar>
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's per-room, don't know that there's a per-area methodology implemented.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: there is not
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i think you can
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: SnD possibly, but not native
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: someone showed me how before
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think there is a way to display only notes in an area isn't there?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: to make a note with mush client i cant remember 
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I told you how to make a note.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: not with the mapper
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: because thats just for the room
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then what are you talking about?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i want information whereever i am in the area
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then it is with SnD or Bast or some other plugin, because the rest of Mushclient doesn't even know what an area is
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's a mapper note, dude
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: no man
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: like i alias it to knossos for example then i type my note and every time i type knossos my note shows up
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: do u get what im saying
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Note()
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That has nothing at all to do with areas, and everything to do with aliases...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In your alias, change the "Send to" to "script" and then do Note("Foobar about Knossos")
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: uh 
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: im lost
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It really helps if you ask what you're really looking to get an answer for, though :P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i dont understand what you mean
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: oh i remember now
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: shift_alt_9 -> new -> match: knossos -> send: Note("Something about knossos") -> send_to: script -> ok
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i want it to echo to me when i type the keyword
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: it doesnt work....
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Because that's detailed enough to help you debug it...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: what
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: debug what
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Details mang, give us details.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ok ill start again
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You said it doesn't work, that doesn't tell us anything. What doesn't work, what errors/messages are you getting, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i want to echo a message to my self everytime i type the keyword
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That part I know already, what isn't working...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What Cheezburger wrote was the *exact* set of steps to achieve what you want...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: Compile error World: Aardwolf Immediate execution [string "Alias: "]:1: '=' expected near 'the'
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Copy/paste the 1st line from your alias please
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: kill the eight-armed skeleton, give the belt to the wounded
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In the send box, there must be > Note("some stuff") and NOTHING else. Somewhere you wrote 'the' without anything wrapping it...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Note("Kill the eight-armed skeleton, give the belt to the wounded")
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: let me try again
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: works
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: thanks guys!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: As it should :P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i do ech in a DoAfter ?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: echo*
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: DoAfter(2,Echo "hi") doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: use Note()
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: DoAfter(2, Note("Hi"))
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: DoAfter(2, Note ("hi")) doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What error do you get?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: bad argument
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The whole error..
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: bad argument #2 to 'DoAfter' (string expected, got no value)
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: [C]: in function 'DoAfter'
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, so try DoAfter(2, "Note('testing')")
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: notice the surrounding "" on the second argument.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: does doafter do?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's like a wait function
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: works, but it doesn't do it in script form
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: shift-ctrl-alt + l will show you all functions and offer explainations.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: DoAfter(2, "echo hi") works
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: its doing Note ('hi')
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You have to use DoAfterSpecial it seems to be able to send in script fragments.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: are you guys qualified technitions
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah, DoAfter uses that funky loadstring construct that causes me nothing but grief in Lua :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because Lua is not a Functional language, it has to pass a string instead of a function pointer or some such
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also, be careful you don't use " on both the outer and inner sets - that would cause obscure error msgs
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Hm why is it when I type mapper runto it seems to evaluate before the command stack is finished
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Even when I type it at the end of a stack of commands
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: because it's client-side and not mud-side
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The evaluation is clientside
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: So somehow the client can send to the mud even whilst the mud is executing?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: mapper is not a mud command
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The effect of that is if you have a long stack, move in a direction, then use mapper runto, the mapper will be off and will probably run into the wall. Lesson is know when to stack and when not to stack.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: mapper executes immediately when it hits the window
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The run is sent at the end of the stack - you won't move based on a mapper command until the stack you already sent is finished
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: the run stack is based on the room you were in when you sent the stack
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I understand
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: something else
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: does SnD's hunt trick (ht) work the same way
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Okay so to be a bit more blatant- I'm writing an alias with 2 wildcards so I can quickly search for next campaign mob by typing RANDOMALIAS mobname areaname
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: my sends work okay so i do move to the right place- but my last send is a "ht %2" and this keeps returning, for e.g., "There is no small within Aardwolf."
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: So it's like HUNT also goes while I'm in the middle of my speedrun?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: have you tried winkles s&d?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The time for the mapper to process a run is not 0 - the second send beats it
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I see
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: And yeah I am using snd
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This would be the time to use the DoAfter function available in later versions of Aardmush
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: doesnt that do something similar? it clear waits till it reaches the cp area before executing ht
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: you just need to do something a little more complicated with timers and triggers
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: No need for triggers at all
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In fact, using them could come under the bot rules
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: I do believe that it is botting
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: and it is frowned upon if you can auto a campaign with 1 command
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Using a timer to delay the hunt trick until the run has had a chance to finish is fine, however
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I've done exactly that, and no I hope this isn't botting- it's just repurposing a bunch of unergonomic commands into a single one
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: the doafter works yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: By "frowned on" he means "illegal and will get you deleted".
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: You just lost any ability to claim "But I'm new and I didn't know!"
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Wait- you mean the doafter is illegal as well?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: By exactly that I meant the alias doafter
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: not a trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: If you are running to a campaign mob and killing it in a single command yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: doesn't matter if the alias is called dobefore, doafter, dolunch or dorazorsmom, it matters what it does.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: OK so no- this is an alias to make me run to a area (that i specify!) and start hunt-trick on a mob (that i specify!) after i type in 1 command
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: It doesn't kill the mob, or even move me- I have to mapper goto once ht gives me a list of possible destinations
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Hope that clears things up
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: It's 4 lines, it's no bot ._.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: it does, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: And please understand the motivation in appearing "stern" with this now is not having to nuke you later.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: ...yes don't worry, I'm not so immature that I'd fail to see your motivation
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: s'cool
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: if Bast is the "On Star" of Aard... Winkle is the "Garmin"!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone use the python-mode plugin for vim? I can't seem to get it working.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i find it funny the nightly test browser seems to be more stable then IE10
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey i got a question regarding the aard mush client and using any other telnet client
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: ever since i used the aardwolf client now whenever i see a chat channel on anything not on the aardwolf mush client thiere is a {chan ch=tech} in this case before any chat
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: any idea how to shut that off?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: It's toggled with tags
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: ahh tags ok thanks!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Sure thing :)
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: much appreciated! :D :D :D
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: i am just jumpin back between my pc and my ipad w/bluetooth keyboard
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: honestly i wish the app on my ipad was a little better, seems to have some refreshing issues
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I have yet to mud from anything other than a pc so far heh :)
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: i love mudding on my ipad
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: so portable
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: and this bluetooth keyboard i got is easily the most pleasant typing experience i have ever had
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: just so nic
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: err nice
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey whats' up with Kaarhls goal in the academy? Kaahrls is at claire in the academy and when he types <goals academy> nothing happens and is playing from a cell phone, gonna ask this in tech new thanks!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Anyone know if mush mapper has a way to override the exits sent by the mud permanently? They can be changed, but they revert as soon as you re-enter the room...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Can't you just workaround with cexit?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Someone told me cexits take priority
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, they take priority - I just want to change the -> to a - :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Does mushclient support multiple characters with different profiles somehow?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does, they'd be separate world files
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: How would I go about doing that if I wanted to start the second world with the regular aardwolf defaults?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy way is to copy the current world file, change its ID number, and make an alias to the aard database file with that name
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest doing it without MUSH open
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Alright thanks Abe
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also just copy your whole MUSHclient folder, use a folder per character
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but again, you'd want to alias the mapfile in order to share them between chars
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: when you say alias you mean filesystem right?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: THe copying the whole folder sounds less technically challenging for me heh :)
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: for mushclient, language lua, is thera an inbuilt function to turn something like 6000000 into 6,000,000?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7805
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Is to possible to increase SnD search depth from 300 to higher?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: wtf my nightly wont open and IE is an unstable POS that refuses to stay open for more then 30 seconds without switching to unable to display webpage even with html files i have on my HDD
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: so far I haven't seen a mob it couldn't find within the 300 room search, I get that message when I haven't explored that room so it can't find it anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Hmm OK- I'll go check my cexits I probably did something wrong when exploring 
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: maybe some maze room in between
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: How does the mapper handle maze rooms?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: u gotta pass them manually
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: As in- it doesnt try to map them correct? So I don't have to worry about my speedruns botching
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: maze exit change from time to time
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: mazes change every respawn tick
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: What's the command to see where different IPs are coming from
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Countries I mean
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: domains
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: geoip
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Holy crap. A Californian man got a call from Verizon trying to figure out exactly what a guy was doing to generate 77TB of traffic on his FiOS per month...
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: O.O what was he doing?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No clue...
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm going to go out on a limb and say piracy
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: probably some top contrib somewhere
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, that's not it.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: no?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Acting as an ISP to his whole suburb?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: why can't they see what's his doing
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: downloading every porn made in the last 70 years?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i do 1-2TB in some months
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Oh, what do you do Dagnir
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He'd been providing friends and family a personal VPN, video streaming, and peer-to-peer file service, running a rack of 7 servers with 209TB of raw storage at his house.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: run a seedbox
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Oic
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hardly noticeable with 100mbit
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But hot damn, that's a lot of traffic. Apparently FiOS has a bandwith limit. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: may has been slow. only 400GB up/down
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there an easier way to swap netween VIM Insert and Normal mode than ESC? Or can I perhaps write the file directly from Insert mode? I'm trying to use default keybindings btw.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Anyone know why my client choke the text batch by batch, its lag but not really continuos lag, sometime its sluggish like for a moment it is normal, then all the sudden it crawl and the text come out like chunk
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That's lag.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: how do i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The problem lies within your internet connection, not your client.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I have never had this kind of problem
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: b4
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: How do i fix the lag issue?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Try rebooting your router... whatever you do to diagnose a bad internet connection.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Thanks Bob
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiandi Tech: is there a way to reset position and size of all windows in the mushclient plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiandi Tech: thankyou very much
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: anyone encountered a problem where the communication log in aardmush stops working?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no. You sure it stopped working. Did you maybe scroll it up just 1 line?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evidently Visible nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: tried that
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "protocols" is gmcp on?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know with cmud how i can append to the current zone name? like with a command or function
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ok, I ran every antivirus and cleaner under the sun.  removed a bunch of stuff and came out clean.  I'm the only user of this PC.  I have visited no porn or pirate sites (really).  How the hell do I keep getting viruses?  Like the damn FBI one, or google redirects?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to scan your HDD outside your PC
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Opening those forwards from grandma?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: poor browsing habits
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: here's a handy chart - http://xkcd.com/1180/
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: <3 xkcd
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also check sandbox and sandboxed IE
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: insecure browser, unpatched flash installation, toolbars, torrent sites
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cracked software
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Seriously though, using windows defender and malwarebytes I have *appalling* browsing habits and am yet to encounter a virus - adblock and noscript help there though
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no torrents, nor cracked software.  I never pirate, I don't even know how to torrent.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also click-to-run plugins like flash
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe he's the first one to transfer human retardation to a computer
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could consider using VM for secure browsing
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: isn't malwarebytes a passive remover?  I have that.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway it is enough to get only 1 clever virus / trojan to not be able to get rid of viruses
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you're genuinely not doing all this stuff, maybe the other use is
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: users*
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Malwarebytes is passive, Windows Defender is active
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: maybe i have one of those clever ones.  is it possible that it somehoe tunnels/downloads other viruses into my machine w/o me browsing???
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes combofix helps
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i have run all of those!
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: maybe it's an out of date flash.  i think my flash is like 2 weeks old.  but it's not like I'm visting non-AAA sites.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: maybe i visited some blog i dont remember
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, that leaves you only one choice: install another copy of Win then antivirus and scan your primary HDD with probably clean syste
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I don't have win discs or i would
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what about rescue partition ? though this is not convenient
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that's beyond my ken
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try to install some linux based AV, but that require some linux knowledge
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that even farther away
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could also check with wireshark whether there are some suspicious connections, but that require even more knowledge
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: you could install Avast for the generic scan and boot up scan prior to Windows running to detect things before anything is in use, make sure UAC is on, then install something like ZoneAlarm and personally flag all incoming or outgoing connections when they are requested
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: windows security essentials is actually all you need
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so i have a possible bug but i dont want to check 5000 notes on bug board, anyone up to date and tell me if it should be reported or if im just doing something wrong
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s272/sh/30d8dce7-0991-46ad-8faa-eaf99eaa93e8/501419883b045f0931d10b8b2abf1985
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: wish list shows adjustment of 200, wish costs show adjustment of 3200 - both have "your cost" correct
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: costs tells you the actual cost of the wish you to buy .. wish list tells you the additional adjustment for each wish
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i get that - but shouldnt the adjustment be the same on both?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: so costs tell you total adjustment (per the bottom of list), and list tells you the additional adjustment that wish will add
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im retarded thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: nah.. just ambiguous with them labelled the same
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Well Thanks for the breakdown - makes sense now
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Is there a gmcp value for a character's tier level?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: now to figure out which to buy :)
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes there is!
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What might be the gmcp value for a character's tier level?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What might be the name of the gmcp value for a character's tier level?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: char.base.tier
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: TY
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Never would have guessed :)
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So if I wanted to cmpletely gag, or alternatively substitute text in a mushclient plugin, can anyone give me a starting point on how to do that? I've figured out triggers to the extent of making sounds play, but I'm having trouble finding ways to alter what text is actually displayed. One thing I definitely don't want to do is anything that would redraw the screen.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: using phone, when pressing screen. It registers on a different point. Text works fine. buttons and scrolling not so much.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: is it plugged into the power?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: maybe you have a cheap charger or a surge
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type ".togglefullscreen"
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if this is for aardwolf RPG button touches
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks