T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakage Tech: i'm using mushclient but idon't have a map, help! T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: Hi there, is there anyone that could possibly give me some suggestions to fix latency issues -_- my own ISP is being completely useless as always, and google just giving me programs to lower ping. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: My normal ping on local servers is around 33, american servers around 160-180, and european around 200-220, but current its just skyrockets to 800 and stays there. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is 'connection reset by peer' the same thing as these annoying ' rst' packets? T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are no programs that lower your ping T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have latency issues (northern europe). my isp's routing often sucks so i force my connections go through premium atlantic fibre using a ssh tunnel to my uk vps T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: shaves off ca 40ms T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: Yea but the thing is I have been playing this game over a year, and only ever had normal lag spikes, never constant high ping like that. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i have a volume command where you can type vol 1-100 or vol up or vol down so i need if type(%1) ~= "number" then (if given parameter isn't a number do the up/down check and proceed from there) and then so if it is a number it does what its supposed to, but if i give a parameter of 1blah it says compile error malformed number near 1blah on line one (which is the if statement, how would i code around this T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: type("%1") not type(%1) T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: you're probably going to want an 'assert' though instead of an ifcheck. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: that's all fine and good but when it gets to if (%1==0) then i get malformed number again, and this time it has done the checks to see if it's a number now it's looking for the rest T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: which is where this if statement comes in T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i know it's gotta be something simple T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: %1 will never be anything, it will always be "%1" T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: %1 == parameter right tho.... T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So if you need to cast it as a number do something like `myvar = tonumber("%1")` then you can do `if myvar == 0` T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: No, it'd be "%1" == 0 T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Lua doesn't care about types, so you can compare a string value to an integer, and if the string is convertable it'll do so on the fly T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: if i do that it says attempting to compare string with number T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't matter T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: with aardmush - is there a pre-defined variable that I can use in an alias for the 'clipboard data'? T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Or, if you're that upset about it, do if "%1" == "0" T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: but then: if ("%1"<="100") and ("%1">="1") then doesn't work T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: it only matches on 1 or 100 T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: use local = tonumber("%1") .. thn test == nil to determine if it passed conversion to number (using whatever for ) T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: basically, %1 is a find and replace, so if i do "alias abc" call Note(%1), then it notes the contents of the abc variable T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: which is why you use "%1" instead of %1 T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i thought with lua %1 would try to call it as a variable and "%1" would use wildcards[1] T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: No, you'd need to use loadstring or assert for that. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: so what i do test var == nil then T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: if not var T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: oh duh "test" T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So: if not isThisVariableSet then isThisVariableSet="" end T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thank you so much guys T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Cheezburger i'm lookin at yoou T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yer goin in my thank you in the readme T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Mye you too T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: so anyone know of a decent brand for a reliable UPS? The one i have was cheap but the only one i could find locaclly and is apparently trash now i just had a small brown out not even enough to make anything else power down and the dumb thing tried to switch to backup power and failed. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: CyberPower is what i use T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone use couchpotato T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Hi i got a really random C coding question for an arduino project, anyone on that's got a couple of mins? T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: it's basic if ... else questions? T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: just ask T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the time you just spend explaining would be better used just asking your question T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: I'm struggling to understand nested if statements, and how best to do the following T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: I'm struggling to understand nested if statements, and how best to do the following, I have 6 LED brightness variables that range from 0 - 255 (dmx values), they are controled by a % of that variable by 3 potentiometers, but I need only the highest value potentiometer to affect the LEDs, that being said, each potentiometer has different values for each of the 6 leds. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: so if pot1 >= pot 2, else pot1 >= pot3, output led 1 = pot1val, etc T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I doubt you will have a programming issue here. The issue is to find the most readable solution. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depending on language, you may not want nested if commands. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Language is C, it's an arduino board. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: might be simpler to just set a variable to 0 and compare all the pots to it with it taking on the higher value, and then output the variable's value to keep it simpler T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: not most readable: pot1 > pot2 ? (pot1 > pot3 ? pot1 : pot3) : (pot2 > pot3 ? pot2 : pot3) T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: egads lasher T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, that's readable? T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: I'm confused now! I'm just a newbie to C! T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Looks simple to me. T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: if you have any kind of max macro T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: UMAX(UMAX(pot1,pot2),pot3)) T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: much nicer :) T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: although i do enjoy tri statements wow hehe T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Lost me at scene. :P T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Whoops, mischan, but he can still read it. >.> T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: hehe T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: how do i use mccp on blowtorch? T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: should be on automatically T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: just type "mccp" T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: ah, thank you! T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and you'll see T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thyth cheers T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: when netlix looks like a list of hyperlinks but no images and cant watch a movie what is the issue T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: netflix* T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ? T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Are you using request policy or any plugins that block connections? T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: this started showing up on my cmud, anybody know how to disable this? T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: {chan ch=auction} T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: {chan ch=tech} T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: tags channels off T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better than turning those off would be to use an aard channel capture script, though...there should be one in the script repository T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i found a js example where the sound files are converted already. i wanna do that too.. how is this thing done? how is it called (to google it later). example is a bit spammy... T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: var wpn_shotgun_fire_02 = "//ugBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASW5mbwAAAA8AAAAZAAA1DwAKCg.... etc. T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: calling a function? T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have no clue how this has been done. some little app has to turn a sound file into one line of text that can be used as a variable T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: or so it seems T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Anyone use jUnit with Eclipse and know if there's a way to stop it from automatically saving configurations? T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know if there's a version of windows that i can install into a qemu disk image? T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: thinking of the Samsung Galaxy Note2 wifi smartphone (with an optional "pay as you go" option or an extremely cheap phone plan) - is there a better direction T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: sounds good........ T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have 4 files for 1 page. when i change something in other than the main, chrome doesnt notice and does it the old way. hm. what to do? T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: crhome resources window shows empty file when there actually is something there. T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: anybody know about the search & destroy plugin? T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: the winklewinkle one T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yea its good T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Is there a way i can make it remember the mob names? cuz sometimes it uses the wrong keywords T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for the few times it doesnt get the mob name right i just hunt it manually T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: can also use ah and ht to use the name you need but just takes more time T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: okay, so i got mushclient installed, do i do anything special to enable the auto-respell feature? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: what is the "auto-respell" feature? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Goldryn the thing that recasts the spellup spells that wear off T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: ahh. can't you set up a trigger for each spell that gets invoked as per the expiry message that is displayed when each spell has expired? Yeah, it's cumbersome to setup but at least it would work. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: how do i enable a plugin? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Where does mapper store its data? I want to copy it to another machine T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: what's the "Input too truncating" that happens during AFK? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: something your client is doing, not something the mud is... T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: At least pretty likely... T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: well that's strange T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: never seen it before T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it says that exactly... T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: not too long? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: pardon? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: did you leave out a word? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: no T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: wait T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: it says "Input too long. Truncating" T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that is message you get when you send really reallly long command to mud T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I've only seen it with very long tells myself, but the tells wnet through T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I was afk so how did I do that? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: oh someone else T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: this why I suggested your client T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: so it's nothing I can resolve? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: no, I mean I sent very long tell and I get that message and tell is cutoff T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: turn on echocommands and go afk T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: though if you are afk might be harder not sure what gets through when you set yourself afk... T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or are you afk without flag? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: just test it. echocommands will tell you if you enter gibberish when afk is on T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: to ry that T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: soo try.. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: okay I'll give it a try T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: where can i find a moon scrypt? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: scrypt eh? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: moon plugin T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Anyone know anything about Joomla? :P T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: a bit T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: ...I tried it out once when I was looking for a CMS but I'm sorry don't know much more then that T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: wildkard...out of curiosity which CSM did you end up with? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: We ended up making microsoft sharepoint standup and dance for us T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: that must have been fun (not) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: We seem to have a contact form going to the wrong email address. :P I've never logged in before, so I know pretty much nothing. And it seems to be in some sort of module. :P T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: well we had a sharepoint expert T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: (the lovely summer months when noone at all is at work and stuff gets dumped on others) :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: contact forms are usually designed in the module. There you should also be able to set the email adress. What module do you use for the forms? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: attempting to figure that out. ;) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: aiContactSafe module? Maybe. :P T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: is it something that worked before? Or a bug in the code? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: They just want to change where it goes. :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: So it works as is, but they don't like the email address it is configured to go to. I can't find the configuration to change it and our normal web person is off for the next month for summer vacation :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: a quick google showed protech I take it you have the administrators login and password? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I managed to acquire them for myself already ;) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: lol nice T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: and you know how to go to the /administrator page right? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: (have to ask) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Already there, that's how I figured out the module. But good place to start with. ;) Cause that's about as far as I got. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I was able to fix some typos in articles, but that's about it. Modules were a bit more complicated than just adding or editing articles. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: do you see the contact form you wish to edit in the menus? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Think you need to be at the profiles page T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: that could be also, if it is just a users email you want to edit..like if its going to the admin T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: but probably admin doesn't want you changing their email T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: so you can change the users email or the actual user it is going to on the specific page T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Profiles page just changes my email. I think it is something in the module manager, but not entirely sure. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: so is it the contact me on every page? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: like a page footer that some module may have added T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: It's a form that shows only up on one page. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: But that seems to be a setting. I found how to make it show up on a page and which checkbox there is selected. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: well without knowing the specific module, I would try to access it from the menus option in the upper left side, click the contact form... T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: far as i can tell thats the normal way, it should be one of the items, don't actually change the alias or the link url though T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: for the aicontactsafe module I found this website: http://www.inmotionhosting.com/support/edu/joomla-25/contact-form/change-to-address T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: step by step to update the Email address but seems like its just telling you how to change the profile email T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: but it does talk about going into the components/aicontactsafe/profiles section so maybe it is what you need T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: how to make the letters of any font in css to have the same size - so that that i and M has the same spacing in the text? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is the font, not the CSS T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is that a CSS thing, or a font specific thing? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: use a monospaced font T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are after monospace T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thank T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ..s T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i have a bottleneck in an application i'm writing, anyone have any ideas how to make it faster? http://duckbat.com/code.txt T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are generating counts on the fly - it wouldn't be very good design from a purist perspective, but if it's speed you are after you could maintain a count and simply reference it when needed instead of iterating through your entire container each time. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yes but the count changes each time i want to access it so there is no point to save value T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I mean when the count changes, update the count at the point that makes the change T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So update the count along with the change operation T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You'd be introducing some tighter coupling, and you would need to make sure you maintained the count integrity, but as far as speed only goes there is no better solution T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: all points can change every time but i see what you mean, only update those points that changed, i'll try it T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: damn, you're a genius vakieh T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: you too duckbat T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: not me, i didn't think of this :P T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hehe, but you wrote duckbat.com that's pretty genuius T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: genius* T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Kind of random, but anyone have experience installing paging systems? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've done PBX-based paging systems T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: who has the best plugins for aardmush? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: bast? or is there someone else? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: bast and msuh client itseld T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: bast and msuh client itself T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: so bast and non aard mushclient? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: define 'best' T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: well for functionality...... i'm a mage. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what you think is good I might never use T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I couldn't get Bast's plugins to work on MUSHclient T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: why not T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am back to using Winklewinkle's plugin T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: did you install them wrong T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: they need to be in a folder called Bast inside plugins T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I dunno why not T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Winklewinkle's plugin works just fine though T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: is there a way to get the standard mushclient? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: yes. download it T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: download from gammon's site I think T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: anybody know where i can get the lget plugin? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Do none of y'all know how to google? :P T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: stick with telnet and mud hard core T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i tried to google, but couldn't get it anywhere T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I prefer Bing myself. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: bing it on! T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez, did you get my note re: demigod mode on my phone that resembled kernel panic and talked about firmware mismatch? any idea? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nah, they prefer to ask us so we can send them in circles T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hey whats the text to set for a stay online trigger , like when i fade into the void ? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "Your eyes glaze over." T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ok thanks von T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: always T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: which is prefereable for anti-virus (and anti-trojans) safety, "Microsoft Security Essentials" or "Norton 360" T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: preferable T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: well i like free so microsoft is ok for that. norton is a bit of a hog but its also good depends on your ability to avoid bad things hehe T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i think both are not the best, i prefer the nopay solutions T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I really dislike Microsoft. It has low test results. Don't know Norton from memory and too lazy to look them up T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what bad things from Norton T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: micro hasnt failed me yet :-) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the fact that it hasn't failed you soesn't mean it detects everything T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I thought Norton was malware T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: =) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: it does a fair job i have taken it places of known issues and it passed T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I use the microsoft one. :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it does. I didn't say it detects nothing. But it has low test results T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I do know that one the two or three occations where I have tried to use Norton, it had a noticable overhead... and I'm not savy enough to tweak it T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton pouts. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: has anyone done anything with web audio api in html? i find this oscillator thingy acting very strange. still too buggy to work with perhaps? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Paypal no longer longer likes iExplorer 6 (Win98e), so upgraded to a WinXP machine - came with "Microsoft Security Essentials" T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: was about to install Norton 360 (paid less than half-price) but Norton360 says "compatibility check" and wants me to click "uninstall Microsoft Security Essentials" (but a foreboding indicates maybe not a great idea) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Zade, I'm not entirely certain but I hope you're joking.. :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: If not, you're the reason the rest of us can't have nice things. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: joking, how? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: It's a technical process where you state a lie that others might find amusing. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I upgraded to Windows XP 6 months ago T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: which part hehe T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: because the modern versions of MUSHclient don't work on Windows 98 T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: aww T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: discovered that Paypal didn't work last April on Win98e with iExplorer6 -- and was unable to upgrade to anything more modern (more modern browsers seem to insist on WinXP Vista Win7 Win8) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: use linux - much more modern T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: or minix T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: WHY would you run a 15 year old operating system? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: because it works T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: same reason i play a text game T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: It doesn't work. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: will it give him amodern browser? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: And why would you upgrade to a 9 year old system? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am playing now on a 14 year old PC T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Pentium 3, 600 MHz T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: wow T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: because my hardware cannot handle Vista T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: 7 requires less resources than vista. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: but yeag, if you're running something pre P4, I get your point. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: whatever, my PC won't run anything more resource-intensive T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I tried a couple of Linux versions too T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: using LiveCD, very slow T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the WinXP machine is refurbished, inexpensicve, and works, and am clueless as to what to do to obtain a decent Win8 gaming machine (or how much they reasonably cost) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: gaming machine, 1.5-2K USD. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get an xbox T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: But you'll get a laptop that'll blow anything running winxp away for 3-400. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Don't get an xbox. :D T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: The games are expensive. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what processor, video card, mainboard T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i should install linux, but its hard choosing a secure filesystem T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: For a cheap box, go with a AMD, pretty much anything you can afford, and a radeon gfx card. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cheap gaming rigs are an anaethema, they don't exist T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: the amd with inbuilt gaming card is not that bad himseld T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am thinking about buying a Haswell system T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: haswell is nice, but pricier. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I prefer intel over amd any day, but they do cost a premium. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, but I won't need to upgrade for 8 years T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Intel have better design and lower power usage T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: AMD are a budget option T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CeriQ is agreeing with that Vost person again... T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Yep. They run faster, cooler and cheaper on the electricity. But AMD is cheaper to buy, which I assume is a factor if you're running a P3 600Mhz today. :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: well, kind of T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: P3 600mhz. Jebus T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Sorry if that came across as offensive, wasn't my intention. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: my P3 does pretty much everything I need it to do T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i dunno, i like the amd turion T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it doesn't lik emulti-tasking T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Oh vampiredude, there's absolutely nothing wrong with amd... T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: and sometimes has random slow-downs T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Just that as soon as they catch up to intel these days, intel releases something new that blows them away. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: They've been playing catch-up for the last 4-5 years atleast. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: won't play YouTube or streaming radio T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: btw, guys, if i was gonna buy a cheap netbook or tablet to put a bunch of encryption, tor, tunneling, and vpn stuff on, does it matter what model? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Can't remember further than that but it might be longer. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: or is it pretty much a one size fits all motiff? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, but you'll want linux on it T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Get a raspberry vamp. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ceriq isnt rasberry still waitlisted? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Nope, I got one 2 days after I placed my order. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn. k T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: any modules you suggest? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: The main distributor only sells them in crates/pallet loads though, so find a reseller. Should set you back about 60-70$ fully loaded with a 4gb card. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i'm mostly just planning to use it as a gateway to hook regular laptop through anyways T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: modules? for a vpn/tor thingy? nah, just get a R2 and a 4 gb card, download raspbian and you're set. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, i guess it's safer to buy 2, that way i have a spare if one breaks? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: k, i'll go look around online T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I'd rather get a space SD card, if anything will break in em that's it. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: sd cards don't fare well with multiple rewrites. I've heard of expecting 1-1.5 years of uptime and then the storage media is toast. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, physically dropping the pi could break it. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Not if you get a plastic case for it. Which is included in my 60-70 guestimate. :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ceriq k. so you think just buy one? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Dropping the naked circuitboard could potentially break it. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I got one a while back and it's awesome. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I have it set up behind a screen at the office doing tunneling, scheduling and statistics. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well what about getting 2? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Well, 2 is always twice as many as 1. :D T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I'm not sure why though. IF it breaks you can have a new, potentially upgraded one in notime. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: nice. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well. yeah maybe so. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I even managed to get some COM mouse drivers working on it so it's connected to a stone-age 17" touchscreen. :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i was thinking doing 2, and setting one up to run my media server T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: and having it as a spare if the firewall/gateway breaks T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: but it'll be a bit of a learning project anyways, since i dont have any arm development stuff here yet T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I haven't tried it, but there's a rasperry xbmc edition. It's gotten great reviews except for some stutter with some 1080p playback from certain compressions, not sure which. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: they're working on it though. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i see. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i well. i guess ill go price the pis on various websites, who did you use, if i may ask T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: You'll need some sort of external storage for it, easiest would be a NAS but then the money starts ticking away. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I'm a reseller in sweden, so I got it from my distributor. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, i have a decent set of usb thumbdrives, and external hd enclosures T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: oh. i see. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Where are you located? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: usa =( T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: but you could use any ubunto clone to do this eq^^ T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: nah, i dont need a gui for what it'll be doing T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Check out MCM electronics, they're the official importers that are working with the brits who designed the thing. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I actually think they build their own.. Even if they're actually made in china. :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: k T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: raspbian has a gui. ^^ T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, i don't need a gui :P T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: it's not very fancy nor very fast, but it works. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if you don T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if you don't need a gui why not go fopr free bsd, it can what ever you want it :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, i want it to be able to output video. but i don't care if it runs mplayer on its own cpu or not. :( T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Frolo free bsd doesnt offer the journaled filesystem support that i enjoy T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: There's a minimalistic version for the raspberry too, without basically anything except for a prompt and apt. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: can't remember the name but it's on the raspberry foundations website. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Ceriq i was picturing some openssh, openvpn, tor, iptables, syslogd, busybox or other bash and utils, and then bonding+tun tap and some entropy gen T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I know what half of those are, but I can't see any of them being a problem. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: As long as they're opensource and built locally, you'll be fine. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: downloading binaries and running them can be tricky since it's an ARM. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i liked linux mint, or is it to sophisticated for you? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Never tried mint... T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: that's code for I've never heard about it. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I'm mostly a windows guy though tbh. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if you are not into the hardcore essentials of linux i think linix mint is an ubuntu you could like T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: frolo you know what a rasberry pi is? T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: no idea T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: It's a creditcard sized ARM computer. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: when you see it, youll understand why i dont want quite so much installed T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: with like.. 3 different editions of linux available, all quite small. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Raspian is a minified debian that's quite popular. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Raspbian T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Sorry Vost, you're right ofcourse. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: that is quite a difference, i tried to install it to my 13 years old laptop which was an idea, but i think this is different T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14421?t=2&utm_expid=8634549-16 This is a Raspberry PI Model B Frolo. :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: my laptop is a dual core 933 mhz laptop with 256mb of ram, so this is a bit better, but i can endure it ;) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You need a DX2 486 minimum! T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: sorry single core, but a lot better than dx2 is a pentium 933 any way T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I liked my SX until I got my first DX. After that, I didn't like my SX any more. :) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: WinXP is a intel dual 2.33ghz computer with 2gb ram - but contains the intel(R) ME (Management Engine) bios extension, and i can't seem to access the bios menu where the power-managent settings that put the system into a standby state after 5 minutes of inactivity (contrary to the WinXP powermanagement settings which is set to 45 minutes) T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: omg, next level tech T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Legendary Gruagach. T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Anyone here use interfaces on programming? Like in c# T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: does spottify work on ipad, too lazy for any kind of research T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a spotify app T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: nice T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: after downloading bast zip file with the plugin what are the steps to get it to work when you load a plugin? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: like where do you save it T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: unpach the zip in the plugins directoy. So you get \plusins\bast/ T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and in plugins you have \bast and in that one all the plugin files. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: yes :) what next? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: whee my first miss to tech. Not to ans this time T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: what is the thing that shows up in front of chan chatter? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: for instance {chan ch=tech} T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that is because yuo switched clients. type tags channel off T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's a 'tag' T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: in html/javascript - is there a way to make a bit of code, a function "important" that it fires always at the correct time no matter what happens? the examples show how to fix timing errors but i was wandering if there was another way. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i have two float values between 0 and 1 both, how do i multiply them so that one value is much more important than other but multiplied value can still be between 0 and 1 T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Duck, map them to [1,\infty], mulitply them, then remap them to (0,1) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: or simply, take the numbers, map them to 1+x and 1+y, multiply, and then remap them to (1+x)(1+y) - 1 T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: that'll take them from (0,1) to (1,2), multiply so their order is preserved, and then remaps the product back to (0,1) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't know if that would work T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: why not? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: let's say one value is 0.001 and other is 0.8 then result is 0.8018 but it shouold be much lower because of the first value T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i want the second value to be more important than the first, the second is usually maybe between 0.2 - 1.0 but it can be anything, first value is much lower but it shouldn't matter as much, although i still want the result to be between 0 and 1 T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this is matrix math :P T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think you want an identify function between them T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: at first i thouhgt "a = a * 0.2 + 0.8" and b is just what it is, but then it can't go to 0, although i'm not sure this matters because i will be comparing the result against other values that are calculated same way T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yea it doesn't matter if all values are calculated using this same function right? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait, how did you multiply 0.001 and 0.8 and get 0.8018 instead of 0.0008? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: he said (1 + a) * (1 + b) - 1 T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the actual problem being solved, rather than the type of function you're looking for? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are you not able to add a simple case/if statement where if the result of 1+a * 1+b - 1 = b, then set = 0? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i have a list of objects maybe around 200k instances of it, and each object has two values - frequency and accuracy, i need accuracy to be more important but also frequency is needed, then i calculate a value and sort this list using the value so the objects with lowest frequency and accuracy will be removed from list T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so you want to "rank" each accuracy and frequency independently, and remove the left-sided outliers, and then multiply the remaining data sets? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: why not manipulate each first, then do your function? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: maybe i'm missing something here... T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if i were doing this in something simple (to me) like excel or access or sql, i'd go with that approach T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't know some of the words you use, i failed high school math :P but i want to sort the list using both accuracy and frequency where accuracy has a greater impact and then remove around 10% of objects from list that have lowest calculated value T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: maybe there is a better way to do this T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lets say you have (accuracy -> a, frequency -> f) that you want to manipulate by (1+a) * (1+f) - 1 = c T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but you don't want to do this for every single grouping you have, you want to "filter out" some of them based on the value of "a" T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: is it important that you multiply them? This sounds like you simply want to create a weighted average, IE pick an N, then f*N + a*(1-N) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: where f is frequency, a is accuracy T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, that sounds like what you're trying to do to me, too T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: good catch taokan T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't actually need the value i just need to remove X entries from list with lowest accuracy and/or frequency, if entry has low accuracy it's not useful and also if it has low frequency it's not useful T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i thought sorting list would be the fastest option T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: perhaps you can set thresholds and remove all below that values? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: then i'd do a two-step process of resorting your dataset from highest to lowest, identify your desired cutoff, and if the data doens't meet your requirement just remove it T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: well now here's another question - is "low" linear, or would a bottom 10% value from either reduce confidence in the data? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: no i can't set threshold the values will be completely different based on input, for example it's possible that one day you have 0.8 average accuracy and one day 0.12 T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: like if you know that frequency below 1000 is useless and/or lowest 10% :) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: fwiw duckbat, if you're removing the bottom 10%, it might back sense to remove the top 10% as well... otherwise your result likely becomes biased-high T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: high is better T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's distorted, is what i'm saying T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: bias is not a desired quality when doing a statistical analysis T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: I don't think duck's doing statistical analysis, I think he's throwing out low confidence data T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: outliers would exist both high and low T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't know how to explain what i'm doing it's more like a data prediction kind of thing T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i gues it has both statistical analysis and removing low confidence data T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: those instances in the list will predict, and based on their accuracy and frequency of predicting i want to keep the best ones and remove ones that are wrong often or just don't predict anything T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Do you have an idea as to how much more important you want one to the other? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and youre willing to keep all of those entries where the stars aligned and everything went perfect? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because this seems quite simple to me... T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Find weights, multiply by weight to arrive at a 0->1 value T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: no idea, i will have to test this, but right now let's say accuracy is 5 times more important T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: ok, then N = .16 (ish) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yes scars, because if stars aligned and it did predict correctly then maybe next time stars wron'g align and accuracy or frequency will lower itself gradually T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So you want (0.166 * freq) + (0.834 * acc) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: ie f*.16 + a*.84 should get you about there T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: it's that simple? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: err, maybe .14 T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Assuming freq and acc are between 1 and 0 themselves T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yes they are T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then yes, it is that simple T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: divide 1 by 6 for however much accuracy you need T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: but if frequency is 0.00001 and accuracy is 1 then value will be higher than some other where frequency is 0.5 and accuracy is 0.4, but the second one is better to keep T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wish i knew what this was for, exactly T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: because dtrack seem to do a lot of what you're describing T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: ah ok, then you need squares maybe T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's a simple weighted sort - think of a situation of kids at school getting grades. Test is worth 20%, essay is worth 80%. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: is there a way to set a trigger if the war declared is in your level range - i am using mushclient and fairly familiar with triggers, but not sure if there is a way to use your level as a variable and see if it is between the levels declared in the war? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: this doesn't work in my case i need both values to be good, if one value is 0 then all should be 0 T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But if you want non-linear weighting, then yes you would want edge-case weighted, which means squares or perhaps logarithmic T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yeah non-linear T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: IE if it's not simple like weighting grades, if outliers very close to 0 would weigh more heavily than middle values, then you may want to square 1-f, 1-a, apply your weights, then scrape the *top* values T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lorken: I have a plugin that hides war declarations outside your level range T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That unfortunately throws out our .834<->.166 weighting T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: are squares fast? this is calculated a lot of times if there are for example 200k entries T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: ooh where can i find your pulgins abelinc? in your whois? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always look at people's finger for their stuff :-) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: squares are probably fast, logarithms maybe not T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, duckbat, is there a reason duckbat.com and your google code page are no longer in your finger? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: google took away my account so i can't do anything there, and duckbat.com is in help www T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: thanks abelinc found your link :) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you want speed, you could try banding - weight based on position on a band, say 0.0-0.1, 0.1-0.2, etc T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It would be less accurate than using a formula, but much, much faster if you pre-fill values T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm but this is same problem as threshold because accuracy and frequency can change a lot T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or perhaps I'm overthinking things... would (weightF * f) * (weightA * a) solve it... lemme see T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: as written, the values of weightf and weighta wouldn't really weigh those individual values at all T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: straight multiplication is commutative, order doesn't matter T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah... solves 1 issue while unsolving the other :-P T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ok, ((weightF * F) + (weightA * A)) * min(A, F) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: anyone know the right expression to replace the value of a field with the same value bt a suffix removed (i.e. if Name = John Smith, Jr. to replace with just John Smith) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd want to use a substring T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but what command/expression would depend on what program you're in T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually for that one, you'd do a "find" on the string to find the comma, that will give you the character position of the comma, and you can then substring up to that T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which will rely on the formula being First Last comma suffic T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: suffix* T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: sqlite T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people who input John Smith as "Smith, John" would cause the name to be Smith, and the suffix to be John, though T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and do you care to retain the suffix in a new field, or is just dropping it OK? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: good point. will need to keep it for a new field. i think what i was missing is substring T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: that's the part i didn't know. i checked the syntax and think i can manage the rest. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: thanks T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob...the complete answer would probably use a combination of "charindex", "substr", and "trim" T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: charindex gets the position of the comma, for use in the substr command, and trim will get rid of leading/trailing spaces T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: is there anyway to disable the auto pop up help in the aardmushclient? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: that is tied to f1 key? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: you'll get help, and you'll like it! T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: its not auto tho T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: file>global preferences - General Tab to change F1 for macro T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: how? i already changed the macro so i guess that is the wrong thing T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client's FAQ tells how... T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: thanks ayasinda.. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so the chunk of newspaper I wedged under it was unnecessary? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: don't thank me yet. I'm famous for giving wrong answers T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the FAQ [and the rest of the wiki there] will also answer your next 13 questions ;-) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: you were dead on. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: don't have any other questions, i managed to get everything else setup pretty easily :) T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you do T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just don't know them yet T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: negative ghostwriter T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no, abe's always right T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: history proves me correct T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do i check to make sure another plugin is loaded (by plugin ID preferably) in a OnPluginInstall function? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Look at the first code box where the OnPluginBroadcast is, he's loading the gmcp plugin functionality, you should be able to use the logic to figure the rest out yourself T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what books or manuals would you recomend for javascript? w3school is nice but doesn't hint the possible problems in one topic - last one took 4 hours to solve:P T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: codeacademy.com T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I agree with Cheezburger T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks, haven't seen that one T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There are 6 different codes they teach I think. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: python, ruby, js i know for sure. I think also PHP and ASP T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Python, Ruby, JavaScript, PHP, APIs, HTML/CCS T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: CSS* T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: is there an easy work around for telling mapper extender not to use certain portals to go to low level areas? for instance, i keep trying to go somewhere in this range via SOH and the security guard is a very tough fight at level 90. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you need to set the level of the portal in the mapper T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: buy a trivia portal to soh :-P T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to set the a level for exits too. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you could change the level of the portal to SOH to be something better T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: guess i could change the level of SOH to like 220 or something...nod T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you could set the door south to the guard at 100 T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's probably a better solution T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: 220 is better or you'll get stuck there when you're on your way to black rose T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: oooh how do you set a level check on a door? that is news to me T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: right click, change exit level lock T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: thanks for the suggestions T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: will work to keep you out of wyrm too T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: anyone having trouble resolving aardwolf.org ip address? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: no T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: well, I do. Strange. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: does anyone know how to get your mouse cursor back on a mac, mines gone T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: invisible T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I think you might have to buy a new mac. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: they sell them in three-packs down at the apple store T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yuck yuck T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: buy apple shares and go complain at the share holder meetings T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: gotit T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: windows 7 has a self contained reformat ability right? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: if this is true anyone know how to start that process? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Format? I don't think thats the word you're looking for. Are you adding an additional hard drive? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: if this is true anyone know how to start that process? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: oops T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Reformatting is what its always been called, and no, I simply want to wipe its existing hard drive, essencially, reformatting the hard drive bakc to new T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so you're wanting to erase everything off of the hard drive, and leave it blank? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or are you trying to do a factory recovery, which will leave it with a fresh install of windows T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: thats what im trying to do T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... which =p T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: factory recovery, think I figured it out actually T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: If you don't care about doing a deep format and rewriting every single bit on the drive, just open up computer management and then disk management, remove the partition and then create a new one. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Factory recover depends on what brand of computer you've got. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: kk. And it's usually something thats added by the manufacturer, but if its something new in 7, not something i'm familiar with T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and nod, what CeriQ said T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Hmm, CeriQ , this computer has been running terribly slow, really think it needs a complete wipe T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Factory reset is usually done from a boot menu if it's a laptop. It's not something you can do from inside windows. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: You can revert the state of your windows installation, assuming you haven't removed the recovery points, but that won't clear documents/installed programs. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on the computer, Cer. It may not even be built in. may still be shipping cds/thumb drive to do it.. but thats unlikely these days T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Yeah, it depends, either it's on external media, burn yourself media or it's during boot, but it can't be done from within windows. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not neccesarily true, cer. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: my neice uses this and downloads tons of games which I think may or may not have contained a virus, as well as overloading the hard drive with useless crap so I have it doing factory recovery which it states will return it to "out of box condition" T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Alrighty then, if it's working then you'll be fine. It should wipe everything and it should be like new, minus any possible spindown due to wear and tear on the cooling. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: In what way am I wrong Daloran? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Figured that might be taken as aggressive, didn't mean it like that, just curious. :P T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Some systems have the option to start the factory recovery from inside windows. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Oh. I've never ever seen that, but nothing is impossible I guess. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mind, all it does is reboot the system in to the recovery mode, same as if you did it on start up.. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But its sometimes in the help/support menus T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I did this while the computer was booting up fyi T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Ah, right. That doesn't sound impossible. Just change the boot record to point to the recovery instead of windows, issue a restart, done. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: you can revert to a restore point within windows, I've never seen the option to restore to factory within windows T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it has on some systems existed. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Arystul - He's talking about the brand specific way of doing it, where they've included a small program in the windows installation that initiates the restore. Mind you that the restore itself still runs outside of windows. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, mostly irrelevant details anyway T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CeriQ is agreeing with that Daloran person again... T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pearson running a 4th of july sale.. 40% off all eligible books/ebooks/training materials. T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is this for higher ed? T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: hmmmm. They sell test prep stuff for IT certs.. im not sure how far the sale extends though T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know if theres a way to use Mushclient mapper and such within TF? or some other command line client? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could be done, yes...the mapper file is just a sqlite db file, and the MUSHclient mappe stuff is written in lua...and while there is a patch to put lua into tinyfugue, you can use lua even without the patch using tinyfugue's /sys, /sh and /quote functions T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have tinyfugue put room info into a mysql database, though, which I've used both with the database on the same machine as tinyfugue as well as remotely T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the telopt.tf file I have on my site is set up to populate a mysql database T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That sounds like its maybe beyond my abilities T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you definitely can't just "drop in" the MUSHclient mapper, it'd take some doing T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, i knew that. I just thought maybe there was something that was a premade solution. I know there was a proxy to do something similar.. but wasnt sure of its extent T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the proxy uses its own different mapper database, although it has an import utility T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: gotcha. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the proxy itself only runs on Windows machines, as it uses .NET...http://code.google.com/p/proxymud T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah... that'd defeat the purpose a bit T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can access it from any OS, it'd just have to run on doze T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, was looking to set up a linux server for remote tinkering and stuff via command line.. no particular objectives.. but if it needs to run under windows.. would need to run it in a VM, or something T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that being said, I dunno if "mono" (an opensource x-platform .net framework) would work with the proxy T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol.. probably also beyond me if it requires much tinkering. I've got my hands full with learning other stuff presently unfortunately T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, thanks Abe =) T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know if there's a way to irc using udp ? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vamp... why would you want to do such a thing? And I'm not sure you're asking the right question T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran okay, is there a way to connect to a public irc server using udp rather than tcp? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran, i can't connect to irc, openvpn, https:// etc lately via tcp T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: someone suggested i might try using a tunnel, but i can't do that either it seems. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vamp... you wouldn't want to IRC over UDP. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: so i thought maybe i could just try to go via udp to begin with, rather than use a tunnel T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran, i wouldn't? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No. UDP has no guarantee that the packets will make it from A to B. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: TCP will. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran ok. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: for something like a chat or messaging application, you wouldn't want it dropping messages as a result. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran any other ideas on how to avoid failed connections do to weird -rst packets? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: -rst packets? I'm afraid I don't know what you mean T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran it's some tcp packet that resets a connection every time i try to use ssl , ssh, or https:// T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: uh.. what kind of ISP do you have vamp? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran a sucky one T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: being..." T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the whole fun of IRC is to type and record the time-dated lines of wisdom - requires a decent irc client T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because it sounds like you're trying to do something you're not supposed to be doing. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does anyone know if there is a JS code to make most browsers work like chrome does with a ... seems FF/IE dont support it yet T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dysan Tech: look for a time input polyfill T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i change the colour grey in mushclient? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: in html/javascript: m2_probability=document.getElementById('Im2').value ... is this the quickest way to do or is there another way. quickest meaning less cpu time. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: getting an html element value to a variable T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: How do I assign client side alias to MUSH? Help won't start T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first, fix your second sentence: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and note that all helps are on the MUSHclient site T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Thanks T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, the aard MUSHclient package's site has tons of great resources...http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction?tm=6 T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skyris Tech: how do i set all these windows in mushclient to reset defualt T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: something like resetaard or so T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Is it normal for me to lose my aliases / triggers when i update my mush T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you don't follow upgrade directions on the website yes. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: oops haha :D T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you create a backup before upgrading? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: yup T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Was just wondering T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Good then, you can still follow the directions then. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And your mapper file, how is that? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Hmm. it's deleted as well, and it just occurred to me i may have overriden the database containing the backups T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: not that it's a big deal i can figure this out T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: is there a db of the area names from GMCP against the actual area names? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: areas keyword T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ah cool thx T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: im doing some html stuff for chrome. is there an easy way to make it show automatically variables when they change? its a pain to type them in console.. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Add the variable to an array, and then write a function to loop through it, and do console.log(). Then it'll print out the changed ones. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You'd need a lookup table of intial values, to compare to. but pretty easy overall. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks:) T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: how do i get cmud to send a GMCP request to aard? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: do i use #sendsb 201 request area, for example> T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #sendsb 201 "request area", yeah T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: hm also, if i make a gmcp trigger on char.status, i assume this will trigger everytime my state changes? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: every time anything in char.status changes T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: cool hha much easier to script T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: to check if it's a state change, you can do something like #if (%gmcp.char.status.state != %gmcp.olddata.state) .... T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: neat didn't realize area info was in gmcp, what data does it provide? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: cool i didn't know there was olddata T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: room.area { "id":"manor3", "name": "Aardwolf Estates 2000", "x": 54, "y": 16, "z": 0, "col": "", "flags": "manorarea" } T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh that's right, was added for lasertag area.... T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Neat, wish it had levels range too.. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: anyone has an updated spellup script for cmud> T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: using gmcp T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't use gmcp for spellups, although you can use gmcp within a spellup script just to know that you're standing and have mana T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: gmcp doesn't really have anything for spellups, you'd need to use tags T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: danj has a tags-based zmud spellup script, and iirc davos had a tags-enabled cmud one T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ah i see.. i thought about using gmcp to track changes in state, so u spell up when ur done fighing or go from sleeping to standing T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: hmm does davos have a website? don't seem to see it on google T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you looked at cmud's repository? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a button in the toolbar of cmud where you can get scripts T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ahh no luck :( T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: thx tho i'll try to track it down T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: hmm charneus doesn't play anymore huh.. he was the cmud go to guy last time i played T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's always here...he's etzli T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: davos's stuff had been hosted by charneus at davos.aardcharn.com, but that site's gone, I just threw Davos's stuff up at http://mikeride.chaosnet.org/abelinc/scripts/davos/ T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: thanks Abelinc, thats really helpful :) T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so.. is it a regional thing that flash drives are referred to as "USBs"? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: USB is the drive. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, USB stands for universal serial bus.. the interface to which you would plug in many types of peripherals, including USB thumb drives. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nothing about the term "USB" implies that it is a flash drive T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: personally, I think its up there with calling a PC tower the "CPU" T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Frie nods at Daloran. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But I keep hearing people refer to them as "USBs" .. and its .... annoying, if not also confusing at times T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Daloran, if that is a regional thang, are there a lot of hillbillies bumpkins yokels and inbred folk in Antioch CA T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you've never heard of the Beverly Hillbillies? T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I never said I'd heard it here, Zade. Actually more frequently I hear it at work, which is in Mt View. Though what prompted it is looking at stuff on kickstarter. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: next time someone asks for one, hand them a usb mouse. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that annoying practice is likely an ethnic thing T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Zade... stop trolling. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: seriously T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: let him troll. We miss Druzil...(be honest) T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, seriously stop trolling. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: there is an ethnic practice by some white middle-aged matrons to call something wrongly by a name associated with that name -- when that happens, i give them a quizzical look and politely challenge them on their mistaken word usage - i may learn something (a new label to use on a product), they may learn something (the right label to use on a product) T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: race has no bearing on that. You should spend more time around proper hispanic matrons. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Daloran, look in a mirror when misapplying the word troll T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that "laziiness" in labels is indeed ethnic T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and just listen to the Italians. "Thing" seems to be a universal label for everything they want to talk about. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ethnicity actually has nothing to do with it, Zade. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: wrong, Daloran T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, I'm not. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it may be involved as far as which labels are used, but every conceivable subgroup of humanity has issues with using the correct terminology. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Daloran, you are too "stuck up" and intoleramt in being (wrongly) "politically correct" -- (political correctness disease) T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: (Debate) T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not really Zade. That's not really relevant either. Von's correct though, it's gone past the point of belonging on this channel. So I'm going to leave it. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: (Debate)(Debate)(Debate)(Debate)(Debate) T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran peers intently at Vonliege. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oop... sorry bout that spam T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: [SPAM] T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: no your not they need to move along T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yup.. that's the stuff T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No you're not. It was intentional. T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: now with more ham! T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: bacon mum T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: quick question, if Slist type = 2, does that mean that spell can be cast on others? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: what does the "Recovery no." in Slist mean? is it the spell no. of the spell under recovery? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's the serial number reserved for the recovery of that spell. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: or skill, for that matter. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ohh, so the recovery for spell id:542 for example, would not necessarily by 542? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Justar carries a handful of beads. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: For instance, Stealth's serial number is 559, but its recovery is 28. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ahh ok T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: thanks :) T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: anyone had experience with GMCP triggers in cmud bugging out? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: some previously working GMCP triggers suddenly just stopped responding T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Which ones? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: somehow my repop trigger stopped working T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: com.repop T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: was working yesterday suddenly stopped workin T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: comm.repop? Not com.repop, right? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: comm.repop yea T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: typo sorry.. its really weird T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Silly question, but protocol gmcp shows that comm is on, right? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: yep tis on T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You tried restarting CMUD? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: yep did that couple times already T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, and the "Type" is still set to "GMCP" under the trigger? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: yeps T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As well as "Trigger on trigger" and "trigger on newline" being checked? And enabled? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: the GMCP repop trigger worked yesterday, suddenly stopped working today lol T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: trigger on trigger is checked, newline wasn't, worked yesterday, but i'll try checking it now just to see T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course, the last bit is to check the code in the repop trigger. I know sometimes I mistakenly type some extra character or delete something on accident and never notice. :\ T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ah cool now it works with trigger on newline T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: weird, it was working yesterday without the trigger on newline T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Weird. Oh well, glad it's working again. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: thanks for your help :) T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing. :) T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli should finish converting all his CMUD scripts to Lua. ;) T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ah converting is suchhh a hassle T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really. I've found they run a bit more smoother on CMUD when they're in Lua. :p T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My entire exp tracker is in Lua. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: can variables be assigned via the KB/command line in aardmush? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: html/javascript. i have one variable defined in the main script. there is one immediate for-loop going on that uses that variable. chrome say's its not defined. when i check it in the console, its quite well defined. meh? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh. it was declared after the loop. thought variable definitios were not picky of their placement... T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. Yahoo is shutting down Astrid. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what was Astrid? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Web-based to-do manager. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: is there a way to set it to automatically mutiple instead of add when using excel? =Click and Click = adding. Anyway to make it =Click and Click = Multiply? :-) T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: in while loop n T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oops T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: i'm using mush with aard package. any idea why i keep randomly getting spammed with "You do not know an 'acid wave' spell? i'm not using any alias or nothing. even when i sit still i randomly get it T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I usually start by turning on "echocommands" see exactly what is being sent to the MUD. Are you using a spellup client? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: the only thing i'm using is the aard package from the website in mushclient T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OK then, try the echocommands. It'll help narrow it down. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: okay..the echo is saying this... "You entered:: cast 'acid wave' data T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: wth? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: haha, well clearly you have a trigger or timer doing it. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: i didn't set anything like that up. don't know how T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: CTRL+SHIFT+8, see anything there? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: just an empty spreadsheet T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: anything under ctrl+shift+0? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: nothing opens when i do that T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that's zero, not o T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: i assumed that. and no, nothing opens with those keys T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ctrl-shift-0 doesn't do anything for me either T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm brings up timers for me I swear! T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: anyways go to game, configure, timers... T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: just another empty spreadsheet T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Don't know then....timers and triggers are the only things that'll send messages to the client without you doing something like for instance adding a plugin. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: it's still doing it. i'm so confused. nothing in any boxes on any of those pages in config T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can go to "Game, Trace" to turn on trace mode, WARNING: it's spammy. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Then see what is firing right before that is sent to the mud. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: okay. that is spamming executing plugin repaintbuffer script "onplugintick" T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: and randomly says fired unlabelled timer T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That's normal T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's very very spammy, what matter is what appears right before you see the errant message. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: what matters... T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: okay. it just did a whole bunch of stuff right before T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: should i paste all that here? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Put it on pastebin if you'd like. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: paste it on pastebin.com and post the url here T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to ElFeneri. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: http://pastebin.com/trZ5am0h T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ok very wierd. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: that doesn't make sense T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type "alias" you have any ingame alaises? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have p aliased mudside? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No it doesn't Elfeneri T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: is there a way to get duels to show communicaton log with mush? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: i do...it is aliased to acid wave. why would that matter? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i am guessing you have "p" aliased to "c 'acid wave'" T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ha T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: because the aardwolf mudclient runs "p data" to show your prompt T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: so it can check to see if it has a cr at the end T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: interesting T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: tech okay. it just did something else since i removed the alias T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: unalias "p" or upgrade to the latest version, I think Fiendish fixed that in the later releases T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: The Aardwolf MUSHclient Package has adjusted your prompt and battleprompt to end in '%c'. This is necessary for triggers to work consistently. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: okay. i'll just keep p unaliased. thank you so much. it was so spammy T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: and i've been playing like that since i did a fresh install last week T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: but yeah. THANK you T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: anyone know where I can get my hands on a friend rotator script or something, I feel bad having to kick people from my list :-( T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what would be the point of a rotator? You're still going to have to kick folk on/off regularly and those you kick off still won't be able to ftalk with you. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the point of rotator is that it's the offline people that are rotated... T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so any friends online will be on flist and able to talk T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lilleana nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wonder if mush can do a plugin for integrated chatting? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure exactly what you mean, but MUSH has an out-of-band chat, not quite sure what you mean by a plugin for integrated chatting T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean something like a miniwin for a particular channel or tell session where input is also there, then no T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, not possible since we can only receive out-of-band data, not send it T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, I was thinking something outside the game, like IM/IRC stuff T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That's doable, yes. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's built into MUSHclient, so sure T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so, no on the rotator? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know quite a few people use them, but don't know of any posted offhand T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I had one, but it's been lost to the depths of my hard drives somewhere T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with the "friend ago" command, it should be pretty easy to make one T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Just as easy without it, really. Trigger for log off to remove, timer to check friend wannabe, and a consent list, viola T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: hmmm, yeah I've been told lots of people have them....just can't find any personally. T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most of them don't kick off on logout, only rotating after some time offline to reduce the number of actives rotated T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I debated it but the time to build it was reduced significantly if I just removed anyone when they logged off, kept me tons of free slots to play with :P T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: you just do it by hand Cheez? that actually makes sense.... T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't unfriending completely remove the target from your list instead of dropping them back down into the not-your-friend zone? How would you get folk to respond back when you decided to put them back on? T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: nah, it was automated T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, just won't be able to say hi to anyone and longer lag time to get back on list T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: They have to remove me also T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hans: no T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no relationship between your list and the other person's list...you take off but you're still on theirs T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: if you unfriend someone they just go into your wannabe list, unless they drop you as well T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: This can be seen most easily when someone renamed T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: renames* T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Man.... Who had the brilliant idea of making Office 365 not even compatible with vista, let alone xp T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: we call that Microsoft... T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Probably the same people with the brilliant idea of trying to sell windows 7 (and if you're on vista, get to 7 ASAP) T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well they need to give you a reason to upgrade T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Paying for a word processor, weird. Imho. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I recommend LaTex. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I said office, not word, Ranrr. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: LaTex is wonderful, once you learn it. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: I'll let you know if I ever do. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: s/word processor/office/ T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Specifically Access, I'm looking for. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Ok, I couldn't resist. I tried, but I failed. "Boys become men, when they learn to use latex." *shame* It was horrible, and I couldn't help myself, but there it is. :) T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If I want a database, I use a database instead of a gui semi database. Not judging :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Yeah, I don't think I've seen any open source version of Access that was worth it. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So Ranrr, are you suggesting piracy? Or merely some other better replacement? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No need to pirate software, we have open source. Sqlite or mysql or postgresql works for most needs (small to large, in that order). T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Accept the requirement is for Access. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except, rather. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: though either way T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, then whoever made that requirement will pay the bill for it, so it's not a problem :D T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except that's not the case for students given the requirements by the teacher/course requirements? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: *shrug* T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would protest. But, if the course is in access, I guess you have to choice. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no choice* T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Medical coding, I believe. Other then that I'm not too sure as its not for me. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: icd9 or icd10? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If the course is in databases, on the other hand, I would ask to use something more applicable to the real world. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Again vamp, not my course, so I couldn't tell you T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Access is rarely used beyond small pet projects. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: if it could allow me to use https:// or ssl i would totally try it T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Crap.. its not just 365 thats 7/8 onlu... Office 2013 is the same T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which means going back to Office 2010.. pro. looks like a minimum of about $350 T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Schools should have a policy to always use open source software. Saves money, and you are teaching technology anyways, not specific program usage. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Less risk of outdated stuff too. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except open source software is not typically what you find in the "real world" T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure it is. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Rarely. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: "real" world, yes. Corporate world, no. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That amounts to about the same, Chee. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathSyte Tech: this looks so much like ftalk, how can I change that? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: How many people use Linux instead of Windows or Maxos? Not many. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: colorset T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: MacOS T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger raises his hand. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Linux is the dominating OS of the world. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: For work and for personal use :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh? Sources? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Most people have more linux devices than anything else. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That'd be Unix, not Linux T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm talking PCs. Not "devices" T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm talking devices. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which is not the same thing at all. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: PC's include servers and mainframes, or is that considered a 'device' in these terms? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm. Included - but not really relevant. Lets' call it home/office usage. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm coming from a developer view, though. Linux is the dominating OS for developers. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: because the interwebs is run on unix :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: may run on unix, but for pcs its accessed through windows/mac =p T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: home/office is a niche, though, and not something that schools need to teach, imho. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Gonna have to agree with Ranrr, here :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Home/office is a niche? =p Reallly Ranrr? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: In that it's such a small part of the big picture of the tech world, yeah T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm talking PCs, chee T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I really want to know where these people are doing work at if its not in a home, or office and its PC related. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the home part is more mobile than not anyways. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Again, PCs. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not talking mobile devices. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: laptops = PCs T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: We're in the "Post PC Era", PC's are a dying breed and mobile is taking over... 99% of which is Unix/Linux :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: iOS being Unix, Android being Linux T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. what does the weapon switch plugin do? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tech Heh. One is not a replacement for the other, Chee T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Didn't say it was, but mobile is definitely edging out "PC's" T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Didn't say it wasn't either. But you're not going to sit down with your cell phone to work with spreadsheets and databases. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: most people still have a computer, but also a large populous uses their phones/tablets instead, or primarily, and only use the desktop fro larger activities, or ones not able to be done effectively on an table/phone T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I do :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You're also a mobile developer. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude peers intently at Om Nom Nom Cheezburger. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez can you develop an open vpn app for android that will ignore -rst packets? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran slaps 2/3 Flying VampireDude. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Probably ... you gonna pay me at $48 an hour to do so? :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn. how many hours? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That's all you charge, chee? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Generally speaking, yeah T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That average? Seemed lower then I'd expect T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Depends on what kind of upfront costs I have to incur for the client, but that's my average rate, yeah T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: huh. Nice. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So ... hire CB for your projects :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: /SelfPlug T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: As for your last question, Vamp, there's no telling. I'd charge it on a 1099 weekly. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: But I'd assume somewhere between 60 and 90. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: meh. that's way too many hours for what i need ^_^ i'll just check the app store again regularly T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You can check all you want, but until there's someone willing to pay, or someone desperate enough to build their own and share it ... it won't spring up like magic :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: shrug =) there's lots of apps in the app store that cost less than 2000 dollars T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: 48*60 hours = > 2000 T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: True, but after paying $2000 you could sell said app on the app store at $x*y T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Well, for that rate you'd also be a 40% stake holder, so 40% of profits would be returned. If the app is good enough, and has a market, you'd make your money back T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran that's silly, I don't need to sell an app, I'm an end-user. i'm at a different point of the supply chain T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So Vamp.... are you saying you don't like money? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cause thats what it sounds like. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Or I also do direct liscensing where you pay me slightly more and retain 100% of the app T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez well, it's a very short list of openvpn apps on android right now, but i just don't feel like dallying in venture capital merely when i am looking at solutions T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Making 2k on a single app really isn't hard, even fully ad-supported :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It's when you need constant income that it becomes difficult to run a money campaign on :P T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn you think so? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Maybe not a vpn app, though, tbh T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: right, because there's already at least 5 on google play T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Too niche a market to get the penetration to make enough off ads T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: VPN is built in to android though.. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran, how do i make it ignore -rst packets then ? ^^ T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: I have both Ice Cream Sandwich, and Cyanogen Mod, and a third android phone with Gingerbread T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: that's the part that becomes hard, and honestly I don't know that you can do it with an unforked android source T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, cyanogen mod is similar to a forked source right T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Meaning, it'd have to be installed at the OEM level ... which means you'd need to get a contract with Samsung, or HTC, or someone like that. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Kind of... in the most lamens of definitions. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: where are the packets coming from, vamp? And why? You declined to answer the other day about your ISP. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez wouldn't an internal tun/tap interface , config file, and a proxy to pipe network traffic through the tun/tap interface be 'just as good' as oem level? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: no T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran oh, i dont know how to check where the packets are coming from. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: At that level, you risk OEM security bounces T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez, ah. k :( T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: could someone tell me what the weapon switch plugin is for, and should i disable it, because it is giving me errors. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wireshark is available on android, isn't it? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: shue its a plugin to switch your weapons. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: If not, install root command line and run ngrep T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: k, apt-getting ngrep T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: so should i disable it? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Should be installed on ubuntu T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: shue depends, do you want to switch weapons manually, ? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Since I'm assuming that's what you're using, since you showed an aptitude command.. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.shark&hl=en looks to do the same T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez no, i'm using mint T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Didn't realize mint used aptitude.. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez, yep. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: using ngrep itself wants eth0.... lemme go man it to see how to use it on wlan0 T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: IIRC it's the -d flag T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: On a Doze box right now though, so can't look T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: -D displays pcap packets it seems T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: bah ill just install that wireshark thing instead T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger snickers softly. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what is it you're even trying to do, vamp T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Can anyone recommend a good cross platform (cloud enabled) rss reader, now that google reader is dead? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I hear TinyRSS is good T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: but means running your own server T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at Daloran. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: seemsly poorly named, then. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: poorly named? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran i want to be able to visit https websites and ssl irc. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: from your phone vamp? Are you terhering to a PC? what T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yeah, tinyrss seems to much of a hassle T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah. can't help you then really then Ranrr.. Thats what I'll be setting up when I get there T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: since reader died, i havent had much time to read my feeds anyway, so i ahvent bothered T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: maybe it's time to stop reading blogs T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I mostly have. I'll occasionally open up ars, or lifehacker or whatever and just read stories from the front page... but i used to end up with such a queue of unread items it got rediculous T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: at this point I mostly just want it for my webcomics, really T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran yes, like i said before, it's tethered. i also have a mobile broadband card on the same plan T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what are you using for tethering, Vamp? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Some of the tethering block SSL/https connections in the free version in an attemtp to get you to buy the paid versions of their apps.. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran my phone company has their own tethering plan, which i have T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: can someone post the command that comes up on your screen when you level saying how much practices and trains you gain? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i said app, not plan. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran the internal settings on the phone. its not an app T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Especially SH T9s T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Mis T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran, it also doesnt work for https from the phone most times either T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So your ISP sucks. Talk to them. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i did. they told me they would make a ticket T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so there you have it. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: no, they didnt do anything with it T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So switch ISPs T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: its just like when the government says someone will respond within 2 weeks, it never happens T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran to who? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Whoever the other providor is. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or if there is no other ISP, start your own ISP. With Blackjack. And hookers. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran, you sure are weird sometimes T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ..Sometimes? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: whats the command to change the monitorstat plugin.. i dont remember which i have, maybe emeralds T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: balaams T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: -j 10 T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: pei, thank you for the sounds plugin! How do I know if I installed it correctly? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: it should play sounds T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bamboo 3 T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bamboo :3 T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: such as? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: make sure you have the sounds folder in the worlds dir T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: cool. i heard that. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i'm going to have to specify that in my readme T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: use 'snd' to see what sounds are on or off T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: this is pretty cool. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thanks i worked hard on it T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: the readme had very clear install directions. I just didn't know (and still don't know) what sounds to expect. A good test seems to be to take a drink from a container. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yeah T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i was going to include a sound on plugin install, but didn't want to be presumtious T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: are any of you (also) unable to copy and paste text in MushClient? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: i can copy text FROM muchclient into other programs (like a text file), but not vice versa, and i also can't copy and past commands. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: is there a way to add a wait command into an alias in musclient? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: how? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no idea, since I don't use Mush. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: lol - thanks anyway :) T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it should be in the helpfiles, though T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: no i doubt it would T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: can't ever access helpfiles for the client for somereason :( T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: wait is a lua module and not built into mushclient T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you insinuating that lua doesn't have a helpfile? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hah! T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: At the point you are interested in that type of functionality, it is worthwhile to explore plugins. They provide almost unlimited flexibility. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: The possible combinations of aliases, triggers, timers and scripts provides the ability to do what you want how you want to do it. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "inflexibility" unless personally (re)written T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: sorry yeah i have a lot of plugins, but just wanted to add a quick alias to enter masquerade island so i don't have to type out get mask lugg, wear masc get inv lugg etc.... just need a pause after if give inv to guard for it to work right T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: do the goal, will solve all those problems =) T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Self written was the only type I was referring to. (Well, and largely adapted from the work of others :) T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: i know and i will, just wanted a quick fix to hold me over - thanks for the advice though :) T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Zmud #wait(3000) ftw T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't the mapper have a wait feature? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: it has a wait duration to determine when to check the room to see if its changed to validate the existence of the exit, but it doesn't pause it for actions that take actual time like guards checking things T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #wait(3000) doesn't have any meaning in ZMud, Zade. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: no clue don't use the mapper but i've seen this question pop up a bit so if it does its not commonly known T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where is the walkthru for the MI goal T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: yeah it does have a wait and i use that all the time, but don't want to put cexit because i only want to execute it at the right time of day so hence the alias T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: sorry didn't mean to start a whole discussion just figured i would ask a quick question - searching google and online muschclient helpfiles now - thanks everyone for your help :) T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: discussion infects doers with inspiration and a new plugin is born that does a lot more than intended. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: picky picky: #wait (3500) T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: there was this post on waits http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=8172 T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: =h T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. tech noob here. how do i update the client? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Mushclient? Follow directions on Mushclient website... T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry Aardwolf.com website. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skyris Tech: whats upgrades have been made ? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Close out mushclient first, and create a zip file backup of the entire folder. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: skyris, i'm just upgrading to 2089. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: mandaloth i found the instructions. ty. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that is not mushclient update but Bast update T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: oh yes, my bad. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: for bast update the aardwebsite instructions dont work T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: it's alright, i'm planning to remove bast's plugins since i don't use them T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then you also don't need to update T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: whats the best way to get a status window running in cmud? If i trigger off GMCP.char, the window keeps updating like crazy and slows down the processing of other triggers T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: even if you dont use basts showing plugins, database that collects information about all your quests etc is awesome...if it works T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that so? What's in it? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep, that's awesome indeed T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it collects information, nothing more. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ah ok T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: after a year of collecting, you have wast knowledge of how your quests, gq, cp etc went T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nod T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's really only one way to do a status window in CMud. All it does is show text and expanded/evaluated results from variable and function references, so it's fully subject to whatever triggers and aliases and whatever you're using to assign the data. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: i mean is there a way to only redraw the variables that have changed? ie don't calculate and redraw the whole window, but only a certain part T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: coz right now its v inefficient, the whole window gets recalced and redrawn even though only 1 variable changed T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a variable can only have one piece of simple data in it. stringlists and datarecord variables (ie, gmcp.char.whatever), while referred to as variables, are really collections of internally-grouped variables so anything that changes one specific member in them actually changes the entire variable. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this means that if you have a datarecord of 51 items and you changed 6 of them then your variable was changed 6 times and triggered 6 different redraws. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: everything referenced in the status window that relates to the variable changed those 6 times gets updated, so if you are displaying all 51 pieces from that datarecord in the status window then all 51 pieces get updated 6 times. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this is why for buttons and status objects you want to use simple a=b type variables. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: hm then do you have any advice on the implementation of a status window for all the contents of gmcp.char then? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what triggers are you using to capture the gmcp info? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: just char* T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: everytime theres a change in the GMCP char module, i redraw my status window T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I assume you are then assigning whatever that trigger matched on to @char.whatever? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: for cmud it's automatic, so the Char* trigger notifies the client that something in the Char module is updated, then just using the cmud command vitals="hp=568|mana=413|moves=882"|status="level=4|tnl=937|hunger=100|thirst=100|align=1397|state=9|pos=Sleeping|enemy|enemypct=62"|stats="str=48|int=57|wis=54|dex=44|con=48|luck=54|hr=162|dr=190|saves=0"|maxstats="maxhp=568|maxmana=413|maxmoves=882|maxstr=29|maxint=34|maxwis=29|maxdex=29|maxcon=29|maxluck=29"|worth="gold=257876|bank=4390000|qp=288|tp=103|trains=20|pracs=21"|base="name=Justar|class=Mage|subclass=Sorcerer|race=Vampire|clan|pretitle|perlevel=1000|tier=0|remorts=1|redos=0".[whatver] pulls the updated variable already T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for future reference, if you want to avoid parsing prepend what you send to aard with the ` so you don't spam a bunch of horribly unreadable stuff like the contents of %gmcp T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: yep lol T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you need to avoid using %gmcp directly, since it's specific to the window with focus. If you ever change focus, the %gmcp reference will be empty since the raw gmcp data was never sent to those other windows. Status objects are also subject to focus, by the way, which is why you may notice the status window changes (to blank or to something else) when you click on various other windows. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: i see T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it all depends on what modules and packages that particular window can see. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: to get around the use of %gmcp, assign data to real variables. Because of how third-party interactions (ie, updating status windows or figuring out if an expression-type trigger should execute or a button should redraw) view variables internally, it is preferable to keep as much as you can in simple-datum type variables (ie, @pet = dog). T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as I tried to explain earlier, if you use a stringlist or datarecord variable, the whole variable is counted as one variable so anything that references any particular part of said stringlist/datacord would call for updates to everything that referenced ANY part of that variable. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: i see... thanks so much for you advice :) T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have a preference for a windows ipscanner? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth pelts Vorpal Vorpes with indecipherable 733+ sp33k, d00d. Hide. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But no, never used one sorry... T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you could use a Sony rootkit for that. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: should be 1337 T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i thought teet was more fitting T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost walks around in the room, looking very confused. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i guess i will just go with angry again T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does duckbat.com have a way to exclude a specific item that would otherwise appear based on your search string? I don't necessarily want to exclude other items similar to it based on type, etc. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: anyone know the command to configure balaams level monitor thingy T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: How do I change the Numpad mappings in Aardmush? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Shift+Ctrl+1 T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: ctrl shift 1 T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xarfin snorts. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: I should have known that. Thanks! T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: n/p T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Also can be found at Game -> Configure -> Keypad. T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there an aardmush command that I can use to change or assign variables via an alias? T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sweet.. thanks T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know why a directory i cant seem to find in my files(when viewed through ftp) but if i type in the url it shows up T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could be linked in the webserver settings but not in the ftp server settings... T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if anyone cares about MS WPC keynote http://www.digitalwpc.com/Pages/Home.aspx#fbid=KCS5JBVL44t T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone think a flash drive with a programable lcd display on it would be useful? T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: what do you want to program on it? T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if it's a secure one where the display has to do with the unlock buttons T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, a thumb drive with a write-on surface is more useful ;-) T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: basically i want to have a label T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: pfft abe you just like the smell of sharpies T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...yeah, for labeling purposes, sure. I know that my wife and I are unsure what's on a particular flash drive, and our kids never seem to return from school with the flash drives we provide them - if we could label them somehow, that would be cool. T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just thought it would be pretty easy if you could route the regular windows formatting label to the lcd T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: way overkill to implement an LCD just for a label...but I'm sure Sharper Image could make hella lot of money with it :P T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...and, fwiw, most flash drives seem to be black, the same color we'd write a name/label on it with. T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: been looking since yesterday for an online reference that will help me assign or change variables from within an alias. anyone care to toss me a link, or help me understand the concept? T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's why I said a write-on surface...think Ziplock freezer bags or back of credit cards T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Client, Vonliege? T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: aardmush T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the only issue with write-on is if you change what the drive is T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but i guess the cost of a sticker isn't much T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: von: in helps, SetVariable T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... forwhat ever reason, my copy of aardmush didn't come with the help files... but I know where the Gammon pages are. T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: will renew my quest with that information T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all copies of aardmush come with the helpfiles, but your copy of Windows may not have come with a helpfile viewer... T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: a bit off the topic... but I can see plenty of help files from other programs of varying popularity and polish T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that doesn't mean anything... T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (rather, it means that those other programs don't have their helpfiles in the Windows Help file format) T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I get an error window: "Mushclient: Failed to launch help"... that supports the notion that there is a support program missing. T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the windows helpfile viewer T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda seems to think you have the right idea. T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'll designate that aquisition as prioity 3. T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even though gammon has all the helpfiles available as html (and on his site), I find the "context-sensitive help" taking you where you need to go quickly to be handy T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, y'know what...another thing to try...in the MUSHclient folder, right-click the MUSHCLIENT.HLP file, go to properties...see if it's "blocked" T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it's downloaded from the Internet, Microsoft sometimes tries to protect you from it...that's also why you may have to keep telling UAC to allow the program itself to run T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: doesn't appear to be blocked... set to open with "Windows Winhlp32 Stub" T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: man... getting a silly little bit of software from microsoft is like opening a bank account! T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: why do they need to know my SSN and Bank PIN Number? T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i will need your SSN and bank account and routing number to answer that T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i needed my SS card, state issued ID, notorized copy of lease, and previous utility bill in order to get energy setup at my new house. seemed excessive T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I needed proof that I had paid for garbage service.... and money T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: von: were you able to get an alias with SetVariable() working? T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is slain by a final deadly slash!! T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: damn gotta fix T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: "failed to load detection driver" <- AMD T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: (now what?) T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: having some issues with my mapper/s&d if anyone can help T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: what type of issue T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: bots tend to break, what do you expect :) T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: when i cp check, it queues up all my targets into s&d, it indexes the areas and will take me there with "xcp *", but it fails to index any of the rooms for the targets. so Ive been having to "mapper area ". It only does this with CP's, quests it work's fine. T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Mush and s&d are up to date, i've tried completely removing the plugins, redownloading and installing, made sure mush was closed during all of it and reloaded before I opened aard again.. thoughts? T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Anyone every build a VM network as a testing environment? T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: This is slightly obscure, but is there anything I can do to stop MUSHclient making streaming music sites like Pandora or Slacker stuttering when a lot of text happens? T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: It's most in combat or speedwalking T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: question about musclient - is there a way to remove the fact that the f1 key calls up the help window in mushsclient - trying to use it as a macro and the poput that help file can't be found and the extra windows is annoying :( T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: is there a password for the mushclient db file? T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: I tend to play from two different computers with different screen resolutions. If i want to xfer my mapper information between each one without copying my entire mushclient folder which specific folders would i need to copy so i don't have to re-do my screen layout on each computer twice a day? T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Anybody free to teach me how to use variables on mush T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Learn from a great: Fiendish wrote this: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Variables T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ok thanks T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: 0h 20 T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where is the AardMushClient menu to intall personalised buttons (like in Zmud) (that when mouse-clicked run an alias or a command) T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: tnstall T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where is the AardMushClient menu to install personalised buttons (like in Zmud) (that when mouse-clicked run an alias or a command) T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's a menu for that? I thought the buttons were from a plugin. T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you would have to write or find a script that does it i've seen it done with jscript thou T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: did anybody supply a Plugin with a (say) miniwindow array of buttons (perhaps blank buttons waiting to edited) T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so to get buttons in Aardclient: (1) Plugin (2) Miniwindow (3) program Lua to create an array of hotspot buttons from scratch (?)- T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: u can use game-->configure-->macros to add some commands to buttons T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: simpler to put the programming work into a client that already provides Buttons as a standard option -- old Zmud does, but does CMUD T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: CMud does, yes T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: aardclient provides help through buttons also - called macros T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the reference is to visual, on-screen buttons. T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: ooh sorry my bad - i thought he asked about keyboard buttons - sorry :( T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: anyone have any tech jokes? T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #alias techjoke {#send "'Knock, knock!";repeat = 0};#trigger {%w asks 'who's there?'} {#if (epeat <= 3) {#send "Banana!"} {#send "'Orange!"};#add repeat 1};#trigger {%w asks 'Banana who?'} {#if (epeat <= 3) {#send "'Knock, knock!"} {#send "'Orange you glad I didn't say banana!?"}} T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ahem, #alias techjoke {#send "'Knock, knock!";repeat = 0};#trigger {%w asks 'who's there?'} {#if (epeat <= 3) {#send "Banana!"} {#send "'Orange!"};#add repeat 1};#trigger {%w asks 'Banana who?'} {#if (epeat <= 3) {#send "'Knock, knock!"} {#send "'Orange you glad I didn't say banana!?"}} T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Hanslanda tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan. T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Frie snickers softly. T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ahem, #alias techjoke {#send "'Knock, knock!";repeat = 0};#trigger {%w asks 'who's there?'} {#if (@repeat <= 3) {#send "Banana!"} {#send "'Orange!"};#add repeat 1};#trigger {%w asks 'Banana who?'} {#if (@repeat <= 3) {#send "'Knock, knock!"} {#send "'Orange you glad I didn't say banana!?"}} T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: lol but you have to @@ for that to work right T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: which provides the better auto-mapper: AardMushClient or Cmud T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: aardmush comes pre-configured. other than that, probably just a question of which you'd rather deal with. T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cmud, in my opinion. Mush's automapper attempts to only show you line of sight, which can make it confusing to navigate after your initial runthrough. T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and look how it handles mazes. Many mazes have a layout-context angle to them, but with Mush only showing the current room you don't get to see that. T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Does AVG work on Windows 8 anyone know? T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I would find it rather suspect as an antivirus package if it didn't by now work on it. T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It restores the Start button and menu and destroys the metro interface. Otherwise fine. (JK) T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: is there a way to make an area use mapper walkto, instead of mapper runto? T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Anyone have windows 8? T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: Anyone know how i can stop myself from disconnecting when i type 'note list' then choose 'a' for all at the paging prompt? after about 200 lines i get dc'd T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: pagesize 50 T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: the paging prompt T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: oh ok ill try that T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: and then don't chose 'a' :) T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: pagesize 170 is safe T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: doesn't work T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: still get disconnected T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: at pagesize 50 ? T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: i tried note catchup all too but that hasn T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: hit enter instead of 'a'. you're getting too many lines T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: i tried note catchup all too but that hasn't cleared the list of notes T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: you have to note catchup all on each board. at least, that worked for me T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: cactchup all does not remove announce mudinfo personal notes -- may be informative to read those even if slowly T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: thanks the enter did the trick :) T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: it was board ideas actually T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: which folder/file stores all the triggers for mushclient? T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: worlds T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Pretty sure it's in the MCL file, but if you are upgrading you should just follow the directions on the website... T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's the mcl file you use from world T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Aardwolf.coms T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: okay,thanks! not really. trying to mass change some stuff T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then it is the mcl file indeed T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ALso those will only be triggers you created...not ones in plugins. T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Another option you have is to make the triggers into a plugin file using the wizard... T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse is agreeing with that [Outlaw] Mendaloth person again... T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The wizard has an option to make them into a plugin and then remove them from the world file (stupidly it removes them by default, so be careful). T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Hi, i've just copied my mush setup from my desktop to my laptop using the aardwolf.com page, this has resulted in everything working perfectly except that the communication box is massive, so big I can't see the resize option as it's off screen. is there a way to resize it without that corner resize grabber being visible? T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can try using the resetaard command, but I dunno if it includes the comm log. T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: that fixed it! T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Thanks! T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what is the number on the right of the time online in mush T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: line number T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do you make mush autologin T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone have a quake console rec for Mac OS X that isn't TotalTerminal? T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: usually win7 asks if it can reboot to install updates. now it just did it withouth a warning.. so rude:( T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: It just works. T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: must have been flagged as so important you cant handle it :-) T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Microsoft Works T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i feel molested T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: hehe T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: No worries, it knows better than you. You really really needed a reboot. T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i hope they fix that terrible hdd sounds next reboot. drives me nuts T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: sometimes it's kind enough to give you a 15min warning before it reboots. T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: ah see there it is the hdd went hrm updates i cant take it fall over and fix me T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is there anyway to set a pdf to be modified after it has been set not to? i am using nuance pdf converter pro 8.1 T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: extremely frustrating since i know i have edited this file before T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: [Aardmush] when I use a 'speed walk' alias, generally one that includes several custom exits, at the end, I always have a bunch of extra CRs that make my screen scroll way up... any suggestions for eliminating these? T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what is the proper trigger string to get an alarm for Global Quests? T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Global Quest: Global quest # 590464 has been declared for levels 25 to 36. T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so if I triger off 'Global Quest: Global Quest' I should be ok? T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: can I use sql regexp to remove some char or can it only be use to search T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm it'd be a different SQL statement.... T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It'd need to be an update statement.... T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: I need to update a column with another but without a,A,the,The and so on and I wanna try do it in sql T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: does the aard version of mushclient work with linux? T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: substring, len, and patindex are will help you do that in sql T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Porphyre, it'll work through wine only. Directions are on the Aard code.google.com website... T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: thanks T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Does mapper cexit_wait make mapper wait before performig the cexit action or before doing the next part of the path? T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: it extends the duration before it checks the room to determine the final destination T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: next part of the path T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sometimes you do something to a MOB and he waits a few seconds before sending you on T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Great, thank you. What's a good wait time normally? Trying to adjust my umari cexit T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: steam summer sale started btw T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard drools all over himself -- making a TERRIBLE mess! T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Anything good? T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: bioshock infinite only one today I might need T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: man whatever happened to those iomega disks? I just saw one in a drama T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: iomega is a company T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the tape drives? T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they made lots of kinds of disks T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Overtaken by usb drives? T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: zip became jazz became corporate backup T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "Because it's YOUR stuff" T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: you know they had those fatter wider disk floppy looking things, I didn't even know they were still in business T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: 100MB a pop... ZIP drive T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I had one, but it developed "The click of death" T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: they did the jazz 1gigabyte disks then they went to corporate backup solutions T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how could i do something like CurrentMusic="GetInfo(67).."sounds/music/area/melody.ogg"" T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do i protect the quotes inside the quotes T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Pei, if your running Linux OS you can install mpg123 and play mp3 files using a trigger like '#sys nohup mpg123 -q -b 2048 /beep/beep-1.mp3 &' T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: i just had something weird happen, now whenever i enter a command, it says at the bottom of the screen Trigger function "process_prompt" not found or had a previous error, anybody know what this means? T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: alt+enter -> scripting -> uncheck enable scripting -> click ok -> repeat and re-enable scripting T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: or, find which plugin it's coming from and reinstall it T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: One thing to verify to prevent it happening again is to make sure your prompt ends in %c T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: ok T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: weird it said run-time error Plugin: xStats_Detector (called from world: Aardwolf) Reason: Processing trigger T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: tried the scripting thing and reset prompt still won't go away T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: shift-ctrl-p -> select xStats_Detector -> click reinstall T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: will do T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: ahhhhh worked, thanks Cheezburger! T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Glad to be of help T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie glares at Om Nom Nom Cheezburger and accuses him of stealing his cookie. T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dawsey Tech: anyone here use bast autohunt for mushclient? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is MAXINT on a hyprrthreaded sstem still th same? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: whats the command to see what areas you haven't fully explored with your mapper T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: mapper unmapped here T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thanks! T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: donka T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: If you know a way to highlight multi line mob 'says,' using tt++ and implementing a universal method... Please share T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://gcn.com/Articles/2013/04/18/Genome-research-creating-data-too-big-for-IT.aspx T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for zeid's earlier question, making sure you can see the mobsays is easy as they're sent via GMCP and expressly identified as mobsays...the difficulty is actually in not duplicating them, since they're NOT reliably identified in the main output T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: what does the mapper use to tell what area you're in? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: GMCP if you are talking Mushclient T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hrm T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: what does gmcp stand for? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: help gmcp T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: get mad cash playa T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: something MUD something protocol? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Might be easier if you tell us what you are trying to do, or what problems you are having? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: just wondering....... i'm making my sound pack use the room trigger right now to play area music T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i wanted to do this without gcmp tho cuz not everyone uses it T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: gmcp T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: any honda civic pros out there ? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: how many stickers? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: wondering how much a head gasket job would go for T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well if it's client specific and they are using mushclient, they are using gmcp T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i'd guess 1k at least.. random guess T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well if they are using the Aard Mush anyways... T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: it's for vi users too and i know several that do not use the aard client but naked mushclient T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: thats the ballpark i got T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: unless you want to spam and gag where, there's no other way to detect area changes T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Only other way would be with room names, not very efficient or accurate. T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: I am fairly sure most clients use GMCP. T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: aardclient decides to use 50% of the cpu with jaws, it crashes on it's ass when using it with nvda + mushreader or tts_nvda, and MIGHT work with windows eyes but hasn't been tried by my group of vi friends T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: remove the plugins causing the problems then T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the actual program itself is identical, the only difference between "normal" mush and "aard" mush is that the latter comes with some plugins pre-installed T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: we did, it's with jaws i removed every plugin in fact and it still uses 50% cpu with aardmush T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: aardclient* T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: just being open, not even having a world open or connected T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and it doesn't with normal mush? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: nope, uses 3-5% normal mush T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yeah it's f**ked cuz i'd like to get the mapper working for a vi friend T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can Pei. T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just not without GMCP T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: watch the language please... T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yes yes T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: already got a tell T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Have you tried just installing the GMCP plugin? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is the mapper specific to aardclient or can that be downloaded/used seperately, when i tried to use the plugin i couldn't cuz there were dll and .lua files it was looking for that i couldn't even find in the aardclient dirs T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: tech http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP This plugin? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: no i took it from aardclient, gcmp handler worked fine, but when i loaded mapper it spilled everywhere with error msgs about dll's and .lua T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah, I think that Fiendish updated the version of LUA for the Aard Mush. T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Oh, you're talking about mapper. T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So might need that Dll T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But really I know people using Jaws with Mushclient for Aard, only had to disable the group monitior, maybe hte com log and it worked fine. T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: odd... whatever her configuration it just did not like jaws, i was vnc'd in setting it up T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: she switched to nvda and aardclient worked at normal cpu levels but wouldn't take mushreader or tts_nvda T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: what is the best mudclient for anyone running linux? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: mush though wine? T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: right now i'm using mudlet T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: cq T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Oops. T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient through wine is my vote T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how do i create a portal alias, for example, warp 657567 will get portal named 8649984 from bag and enter it? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a great tutorial on that linked from the aardMUSH page on the mapper T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: bid T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no! T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: cant afford to watch videos at this point T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: This is just a test T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: how do you toggle the 'verbose' option so all commands sent to the mud are displayed instead of being potentially hidden? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: not sure what you mean it doesn't hide commands as far as I know, are you talking about echocommands? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: commands that are ommited from output for example, I think I remember somebody mentioning a way to have the mud show what it was recieving for debugging purposes T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yes that what echocommands is T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: yep that does it, thanks! T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with php is it possible to use a variable in another variables name? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i'm trying to start using gmcp in my sound pack for area sounds, how would i go about starting to use gmcp and how do i make it report what area it's in T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What client, Pei? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd use OnPluginBroadcast to grab the info from room.info's zone field T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'd check out the wiki. There's a general gmcp page with all the info listed that you can grap, and then one about how to use it in MUSH. T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: grab* T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: ok, is there any good documentation on where a beginner scripter just starting with gmcp should read T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: cool T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: anyone know where this wiki page is? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki, and look at some of the smaller/simpler plugins T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client protocols T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: so basically i want to onpluginbroadcast find room.info zone info and then make a CurrentMusic variable that links to the path to the sound file T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: can anyone help me with a snippet of code for an example T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, best place to look is in simple plugins T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they ARE snippets of code T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you look at the "GMCP in MUSHclient" page? There are snippets of code there, as well T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: if text == "room.info"' T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i dunno how to make it pick out zone T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: could anyone point me to a plugin or show me an example T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take a peek at some of my plugins T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: like? and where do i get them T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pei: where would I find YOUR website info? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you have it set, you obviously know about its existence... T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whenever someone suggests that you look at someone else's "stuff", that's the first thing you should do T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: you don't have to be so mean T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: which one could i look at T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I usually start in the underware drawer T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's where people keep their good "Stuff" T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: guys seriously, i'm looking for serious help here, if this is how someone who is trying to contribute to the aardwolf mud is going to be treated then what am i doing this for T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I'm giving you serious help here T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be doing it to learn and better yourself T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: have a look at abe's 'room desriptio' plugin T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thank you T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, I read that and had to think "I have a room description plugin?" T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege smiles T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that one actually wouldn't be a good one to look at T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: just because you guys are all good in the scripting area, you don't need to be mean and sarcastic to people who are trying to learn, i took this for a friendly mud not some scripting channel on irc T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for two reasons: 1) it doesn't use gmcp, and (2) it's complex in creating a miniwindow T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pei: we're not even talking about scripting yet T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you not being able to finger out where to get my stuff has nothing whatsoever to do with scripting [sic] T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: well i am, i just need an example on how to read the zone section on a room.info T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: and turn it into a variable T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so, you'd want to look at a plugin which doesn't need to have a visual (it'll be much shorter), and which uses some GMCP (doesn't have to be room/zone info) T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: ok which one T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, download multiples and look at them, see which ones "click" for you T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: seriously? you're gonna make me wade through all of them when i just need a simple example T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of them? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for starters, only look at stuff for MUSHclient...I don't even use the client, so there's not much T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there are examples on the wiki. are those not sufficient? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "give all" wouldn't have anything from GMCP, and the top 3 were written before GMCP T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: could you just tell me which one you think i should look at for an example and not be all "you must find your own path" on me? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: you do this to everyone T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as well I should T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: and here i am trying to contribute to aardwolf T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how about this: download them into a directory, then sort by size :-) T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you should learn how to learn T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and how to take advice T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: omg, really... man you really are an ass T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: it can be complicating to wade through hundreds of examples and furthermore confusing T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: he is right pei take some initiave that is how programming and computers have come so far T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what hundreds of examples are you talking about, Jenni? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: in general. i just came into this. T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: well he is honest though since everyone thinks different and knowing how to learn is important to coding T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: perhapse i can be of some help T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I already narrowed it down considerably for you...if I were you, I would've tried the very next one in the list T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: and i got hit with the spelling bug. ugg! T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is both extremely small, and starts out doing EXACTLY what you're looking to do T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: what one in the list, i see your plugins, but it doesn't even specify which ones are for mush T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it does T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: on http://mikeride.chaosnet.org/abelinc/scripts/ ? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page is called...my scripts for a totally different client...try looking for the "this stuff is different" part T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, did you try ctrl-f and typing mush? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an entire section of just MUSHclient plugins I've written for other people which I've never used myself T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so...take that info, and add it to the ones that I already ruled out for you... T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm still trying to make an alias that will let me change variables on the fly using the 'setvariable' command... can't seem to get the sytax right. Maybe I'll work on that some more this afternoon T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: havn't played with it for a few days. T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: setvariable is a scripting command...you need the alias to be sent to script T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ooohhh... that T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and did you get the helps working? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ooohhh... that's a pretty good hint. T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I did get the helps working... thankyou. I sort of got use to looking at the web-based halp, though, so I'm trying to train myself to go to the help file instead T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, for just general scripting lookups it's the same, but the built-in ones are handy when you want to know what a checkbox does in a modal dialog, etc T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since clicking the help in that window will bring up the help for that specific window T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, going to aliases, clicking new, then clicking the help button takes you to the definition of the edit alias window, and the send to drop-down is explained pretty well, saying what to select to include aliases in aliases, etc T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pei: how's the search going? T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when looking at a plugin, skip the top "header" ()part...since you're interested in just scripting GMCP stuff, you'd also skip aliases and triggers, and get right to the