T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: anyone use J?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: J<-- just did :D
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: is performance really that superior compared to c/fortran?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Major tech question.  Using Linux.  I use to know a way to do this but lost my backup...
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: What I want to do is set an action that can act off of '#sys tmux -v' the output of which is tmux 1.5
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Does anyone know how to use tintin++ to create an action that will react to a '#sys <command>'?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I use to have this setup where tintin++ would detect weather tintin++ was installed this way.  Any tech's on?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Do you mean weather, or whether?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: weather tmux was isntalled*
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Right, whether.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: thank you whether
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Because weather is also a thing :P
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I don't know, why would you want to check tmux from within tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Shouldn't it be a tmux script checking that tintin++ was loaded correctly and in the right pane?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I use to know how to do it this way.  I like using tintin to create tmux layout.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: e.g. #math {tmux_split} {106 - 81}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: #sys {tmux split-window -h -l $tmux_split "tail -f log_tells.tt"}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: well 106 should say '$screen_width'
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: but my variable triggered when i cut pasted
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: $screen_width being a variable I find using tt++
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Does anyone know how to use tintin++ to create an action that will react to a '#sys <command>'?  I use to know a method for doing this but I lost my backup.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I might just ask at the tintin++ forum, tech channel seems to be mostly for mush support.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I'm glad to be part of tintin++ discussion when it does happen thoug.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien rapidly nods twice at Zeid, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Good to meet another user, though I don't know much about your particular problem.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I've talked to you about tintin before Trurien, it is indeed good comrade.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: ...comrade.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I think I figured it out now
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: with tt++ using '#script {path} {tmux -V}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I get the variable '{path}={{1}{tmux 1.5}}'
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: which means we're in business :)
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zeid roars in victory over his fallen enemy.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: if you use tintin++ an action like '#highlight {%0} {<color code here>} may apply
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Yep I just checked it.  Using linux OS and tintin++ client you can change your terminal settings for white background, although I'm not sure why you'd want to.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: white is glaring, grey on black is ultimate!
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: in case you missed it, you can create a tt++ action for a #sys <command> using:
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: #script {test} {tmux -V}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: #showme {tmux 1.5}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: #showme {$test[1]}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: Can someone give me the simple answer as to why my alias's in muchclient are unable to target other people? My mud alias's work just fine. they are just made like sanc = cast 'sanc'
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: if you're making the alias in mush client you need to give it the variable for the target
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: so for example an alias to cast sanc on someone else would look like "sanc *"   "cast sanctuary %1"
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: i dont use mush, but moste clients need a designator at the end (#alias {sanc} {cast sanc %1}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: Thought i tried that, i must have done it wrong, Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that both the aard spellup command and the MUSHclient spellup scripts let you spellup other people without making your own aliases
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: Yea, i am baffled, i already had the %1 set up, because i had tried the * thing before
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: but it is working now, thank you much :)
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: wait, so all i gotta do is type spellup (player) and it cast all spells i can use on other people? Is what your sayin?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: .......
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as shown in "help spellup"
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: This mud is amazing. The bells and whistles keep on falling out of the closet and smackin me in the face
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spellup <target>     : Spellup another person.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: writing your own 'spellup' script for any mud isn't as hard as it may seem
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: i dont like the way aard's built in spellup stacks the spells :(
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: Thanks for the info fellas, appreciate it.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: might seem stupid but how do you put a hyperlink in a line of text?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: or more than 1 in 1 line?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: like on the mud or a web page?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: depends on html you would do something like [url]http://url.co.za[/url] but I don't think its completly like that
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: mud
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: on the mud there is no way unless a persons client parses it, if it does you use html <a href="http://aardwolf.com">aardwolf</a>
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont know about mush, but cmud auto parses http://www.aardwolf.com to make it a clickable link
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: so does mush
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Is it just my inability to see the exception, or is remort auction not part of the GMCP module?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It's not.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Do you happen to know if there is a reason?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not part.  There are a few channels that either wholly or partially are not on the gmcp ship.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: remort auction was perhaps just an oversight (market and regular auction are gmcp-enabled, after all), but stuff like pokerinfo game announcements are not sent via gmcp even though player chatter on the same channel is.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Ah, ok. Thanks Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KarlRove Tech: hey, im having problems with the android client, whenever i try to use the buttons my screen just scrolls up, any idea how to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is this a tablet?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Have same problem, so I don't use the buttons anymore
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think he needs to ask Foxnews......
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KarlRove Tech: its a droid razr
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing .togglefullscreen
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KarlRove Tech: it worked, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "zone" for the buttons drifts in fullscreen mode...you can toggle it back on afterward and just use that to "reset" it whenever it gets too far off
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: can someone do me a favor and nslookup saturn.xencall.com, let me know if it's resolving... I can't figure out if my ISP is caching a bad response (I configured the domain to only cache negative responses for 50 seconds) or if there's a more serious problem
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: It gives me an nonauthoritive response. Anything in particular you're looking for (sry, noob here)?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: could you also try pangea.xencall.com
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: it's a CNAME to saturn.. on my end  nslookup saturn.xencall.com says "No internal type for both IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses (A+AAAA) records available for saturn.xencall.com"
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: and I have no AAAA records
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: i just switched to my own DNS servers an hour ago, but oddly nslookup pangea.encall.com resolves to the IP saturn.xencall.com is supposed to resolve to
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: regardless of it being a 
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: cname
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I got an nonauthoritive answer on that one too: pangea.xencall.com      canonical name = saturn.xencall.com.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yeah only one of the four DNS servers should be reporting authorative since the other 3 replicate from it
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: but cool thanks, I guess it's working
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: my ISP must be ignoring my cache length request, which is weird since I have a wildcard subdomain that should be catching everything
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: this is a test
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: It would be sweet to have chat channels drizzle down vertically in the side panel colored green.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: matrix style
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So write a plugin for it. ;)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: That's way too stupid to be real. Nope. MySQL!
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Anyone use Xamarin here?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am busy making my own personal formatter in Delphi 7.0 i got almost everything right only problem is that when i copy the text from the memo field to the aard command input it still makes it one line although in delphi the text wraps after 79 characters any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Here's a bolds question with a 99% chance of being shot down/ignored.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Here's a bold* question with a 99% chance of being shot down/ignored.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Anyone have tintin++/wintin++ area maps they would be willing to share?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda rolls on the floor laughing at Zeid's antics!
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: My email is redpillinuxandzion.com
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: My email is redpillinuxandzion.com
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: cant find escape character for AT symbol
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Use two @
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: My email is redpill@linuxandzion.com
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: thanks Tech channel, your true implementors.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: what is the best clientto run on a netbook?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Which operating system is it running?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: windows 7
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: starter
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Many would recommend Mushclient :P
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: and you reccomend?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I would recommend Mushclient for Aard
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: me too
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I like Mushclient because it is well-supported and the Aard version is feature-packed...
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and lots of plugins!
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But I don't use it myself because I think MUD clients shouldn't have clicky clicky
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: For a keyboard-based game, unless you're on a touchscreen phone, you should use the keyboard as much as possible.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I agree
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: So I prefer something like Tintin++ (Wintin++) which has minimal decoration.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you dont have to install the click plugins
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien rapidly nods twice at Ayasinda, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I've made it clear that it's my personal choice.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: all I  need is a map and stats
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I have that, map goes to a text file which I update as I enter each room, then a 21x32 console running tail -f keeps it in view :P
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But then I did spend a little time setting up my Linux "client".
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: what version of linux/
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Only a little, because it could be jazzed up a lot more even without buttons :)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Just Ubuntu 12.04, haven't checked out many others.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I was testing Arch and OpenSUSE for a while, and Fedora as well
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But I'm too used to apt-get :) So it's between Debian, Ubuntu and Mint
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I've used crunchbang
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Crunchbang is based on Ubuntu, right?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: nice and lightweight, no debian uses apt-get
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: has openbox as a window manager
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Ah debian! My bread and butter :)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I've been on crunchbang since January... I love it
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: i think i'll reinstall crunchbang, and use tintin any plugins to run with it?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yeah, now 'based on Ubuntu' is significantly different from 'based on Debian'
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: tnanks all for the advice
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: anyone else use a keyboard with no letter or numbers? (Now where is prnt screen key!)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Its got to be one of these 3...
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I think I understand, ingame echo does same as client side (tt++) #showme
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: only it comes from the game, not the client
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd still use them differently
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: coming from the game is a more-important distinction than you're thinking of
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: im getting runtime errors on the minichat(comm log window) plug in
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ive tried to reload the plugin, reload mush it still happens
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hi Bluebeetle.  The specific error messages would be useful.  Maybe copy and paste the entire message into pastebin?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ok sec i'll dropbox it
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: here is the error capture https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50158571/error.html
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Are you using Windows 7/Vista?  What folder did you install it in?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I recall there is some issue with not installing in program files or something....
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: no still on xp :)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: so that is nonissue for me
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Are you editing that Aardchat log somewhere else?  Able to open it?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: hrm  leme see
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The " Permission denied
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: is the issue I think...
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i was able to open log
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Where'd you get that file?  Possible to create a new file and have it save the logs to that?  Is it possible another plugin, or mushclient is logging to that file?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ok i turned off the logging for now, reloaded plugin working for now so will see :)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and you don't have another copy of mush open or anything?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd guess that error means 1) You don't have rights to that file (usually seen in Vista or later) or 2) Some other program has locked that file so you can't open it for editing...
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hey guys, i need advice choosing a good wireless hub for my home. i don't need a cable modem, i got one. just a standalone wireless hub with good coverage.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: not very expensive too
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: netgear wndr4500
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: or log onto a neighbors... that is the cheapest
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i like the linksys ea2700
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: got a diff error this time
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50158571/error2.html
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: thanks, i check both on amazon now.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Nope that's the same eror.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: error...
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: hrmp i guess time to restart pc :p
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: so the linksys one is £80 with average reviews and Netgear one is £120 with relatively good reviews. why should it be so expensive?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheapest place to order a usb keyboard for a rpi online?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Zoee: because it's good?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i check what r version of mushclient i'm using?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: help>about mushclient
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how do i find the rxxx version?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you can look at the aardwolfpackagechanges file
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: found it, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how do i update to r1773 and keep my current client layout with triggers?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: look at the aardwolf website. It has a tutorial
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: on the mushclient download part
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: how do you map a no-map room with mush?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: pretty sure you don't
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You don't.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: not sure if you can, but try making cexits through the unmappable rooms
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that is the general idea
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: I suck at Zmud and need help setting up an effective anti-void trigger thingy.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #alarm 600 #CR
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how have you not figured this out over the 20 years you have been playing aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might need a set of {}
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: excellent question K :P
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: ok, I put in that alarm thing, didn't get any message or anything though
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. set a timer to send <enter> every 5-10 mins
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no message is actually a good thing, means at least it was valid syntax
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie laughs out loud at Not Guilty Kojiro.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: or make a trigger to spellup on tick
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: trying it with the fancy brackets gives me "that is not a command"
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TorukMakto Talia nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: I'd rather do something that gives no message, so I'm not spamming
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: well, guess I'll test this out, thanks for the help. :P (and I haven't been playing Aaard for 20 years! Only 16 or so :P
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TorukMakto Talia is old.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Is anyone using Bast's eqDB with its overload option?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: is there a miniwin plugin that will track the moobs in a room?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus rips off Ulrich's shirt, exposing his moobs!  Looks like Ulrich should look into buying a bro...
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: lol oops
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: something like this? http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9625
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: didn't try typing that one during battle :p
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: oh right, ulrich is ignoring me, he didnt get the link :)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tough luck
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: sorry about that nuanse not sure how you got on ignore list
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: thanks for the answer though
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: and thanks for those that told me about it
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: yeah yeah :p
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: not saying I didnt ignore him but if so must've been long ago :p
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not even sure if that script works anymore, it's 4 years old (from time when miniwin came in). haven't seen any others though
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: hmm worth a shot
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no it seems to be broken
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: Im having trouble with a plugin it is stating a complie error [string "Plugin"]:350: invalid escape sequence near '"[%w'
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: context line is  350*:             sPat = "[%w\-]+$"
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: add another \ with the original \
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: okie
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok no more error message thanks Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: is there anyway to add doors to the aardwolf clients mapper
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: mapper help, see the cexit section
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: ahhh right
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Be aware you need to preface the line with ; to stop it parsing any ;s you use in the cexit
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: so you don't only use that for portals
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You use portals for portals, not cexits
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unless you mean floor portals?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: i mean custom exits, like the bucket in aylor
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah, those are fine - it will act strangely if you do that for held portals, though
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: i wasn't going to try that for held portals :D
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anyone have a plugin that can track from i get my qps from
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: I don't know if anyone can help with this, but I have migraines, and with it eye problems, some monitors bother my eyes, some don't.  Like the tv in the living room I can watch, but the tv in another room is hard to look at, for a computer monitor any ideas what I should be looking for?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: I think the screen refresh rate is one thing, how do I know a monitors possible refresh rates before I buy it... but to me its eems like there is mroe than just that to it
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: refresh rate is irrelevant
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: light is important
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean daily light and backlight light
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I'd get a matte screen, not glossy for one
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: What is meant by daily light?  How do I tell a monitors light output before I get it, which alsor eminds me I've been having light sensitivity issues, can all current monitors be dimmed greatly?  For example I currently am on a laptop and I have it dimmed almost as much as it can, plus sunglassesson in a dark room, as I am currently having problems
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: human eye don't like muscle tension, sharp light, high contrast, reflections
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: muscle tension is caused by constant looking at short distance
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you have to change object you looking at, I mean it is good to look at distant objects from time to time, also don't focus eye on single point
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also you should it is good for 2-3 minutes every hour to stare at darkness
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ie use your palms to cover eyes, and look blinking
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Refresh rate is absolutely important when it comes to migraine headaches... ever see that epilepsy warning on TVs and whatnot? It isn't there for funsies.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also blinking is important - to moisturize eyes
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Migraines and epilepsy are quite strongly related insofar as visual frequency is concerned.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Check the backs of each TV for the info panel, this will list the frequency of each TV. I suspect 1 will be 50/60, and one will be 100, if it is the frequency which is causing you issues.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I doubt whether refresh rate is important with LCD displays, it was important for CRTs
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: LCD has stable image, crystal is in one position or other
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for LCD's this parameter means how fast image can be displayed (in terms change from one image to other)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for CRT's it was rather how often image is redisplayd (ie. how often cathode ray tube emits the same image)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: okay so the screen I've had the most trouble with says 50/60hz... I can't check the other one right now... and may have a hard time doing so laters ince its wall mounted
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You will also see differences between a display showing interpolated (like 1080i or something) vs progressive (like 1080p)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Was the other one more expensive?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If they are the same frequency, the next thing to check is viewing angle and distance - if the one causing you issues is wall mounted it may well be too high
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: yes, the 50/60 is a samll one with kind of a textured screen, the otehr one is much bigger and is a smooth glass screen, but not sure if its plasma or what not, so not sure how big a difrence plasma vs lcd or what not makes
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also backlight technology used for LCD's is important, if it is CCFL (cold cathode fluorescent lamps) then it is blinking
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whether that LCD has refresh rate 50,60,75 or 100, it CCFL has it's own blinking rate
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and that blinking can cause headaches
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: okay sounds like i definately don't want CCFL
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: LED backlight though should be far better, as it gives constant light
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are different LEDs and human eyes don't like certain types of light
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, monitor should not be source of light
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, dark room and light monitor is no-no
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better use other light source like lamp
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: well with my light sensitivity i tend to have as little light in the room as possible, plus sunglassess, and monitor dimmed, for example when watching tv i have allt eh blinds drawn, which still lets in too much light, the tv on night mode, as dim as i can get it, and two pairs of sunglasses on, so id on't think i can do anotehr source of light
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: though I am hoping my eyes get better... Lord willing, but who knows, they have been having problems like this for a year now, though ive had migraines since i was 5
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should avoid contact with artificial sources of light then, especially TV's, LCD's
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, maybe air is too dry? especially if you use AC
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: well last summer and this summer have been the worse, last summer i didn't look at screens at all, this summer i have been, and aside from some screens not being able to look at, and from time to time having to not look, i havn't noticed a huge difference in my problems wether looking at screens all day ornot
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: thank you to everyone who helped :)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: is there a way to suspend repaint_buffer to stop spam during trace?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok II set up an auto consider to fire on room exits, works good on look but seems to fire twice during movement, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Has anyone been able to get Bast eqDB overload to work with containers?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: For me it works with the inventory and equipment. With containers it fails... I found that nitem.serial is nil
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: is there any way to control a music player with mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: you could likely write a plugin to do it I believe
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you will probably do it through COM, so you would need to know the COM interface for that player.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then we're back at the misunderstanding of the term
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: ok........ i'll have to research it
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: now hard is tintin++ to use?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: not hard at all I love it
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: or tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: cool any scripts you can reccomend, or anything of that nature?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: best is to write your own
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: how come my GMCP mapper marked every room as unexplored, even though ive been there
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: You may have not saved when you quit the program last time
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you been there while using the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: yes, every time i start my client its fine, its i first time
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: deleted all my rooms
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did you upgrade mush recently?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you haven't upgraded recently, go to game -> configure -> MUD name/IP address...is the name of the world still "Aardwolf"?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: nope, but ive notice that there is a [n] up on top
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's the issue
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: what does it represent
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in there, change the name back, then quit & restart MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: bleh I wish I could order a hard drive like I order pizza
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: if you live in my home town, i gota an extra i will deliver
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the title bar of MUSHclient is "MUSHclient - [<Worldname>]
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can.  Just takes more than 30 minutes.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: amazon+ overnight shipping
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: oh , how do i change it back
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: hahah fair point but I did mean in 30 minutes
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to where I told you to go and do what I told you to do ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's not ordering. That's the deliver part
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: so far the best shopping place I've found in NYC is JR's for tech, but it STILL isn't as nice as say a fry's
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: why is there no fry's in NYC?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: you just said in there
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: JR Music World?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type  "tech -h abelinc"
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: uhh its all things electronic
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the company name was JR Music World, I used to get their catalogs all the time
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: yeah they're pretty nice, like fry's but without the selection or the deals
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: it worked, thanks a billion
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i want to purchase a wireless repeater - but it seems like they are more expensive than a second wireless router... wtf is that all about?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Turn your old router into a repeater, then.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's not really for me, it's for a coworker who is not tech savvy in the slightest
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thinking about suggesting this: http://store.linksys.com/adapters/linksys-RE1000-range-extender-bridge_stcVVproductId136607179VVcatId554677VVviewprod.htm
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: turn his old router into a repeater then
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli just said that, Ayasinda.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't want to do any of the work, i want to suggest a product and walk away
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and telling her to do that isn't a solution
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you said your not his
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Touche.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why not just suggest a store and have him talk to the customer service rep?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really, to be honest, there's complete step-by-step instructions for turning an old router into a repeater, and it's pretty idiot-proof.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: imagine dealing with someone about the age of your grandparent (or some other family member who thinks computers are boxes of wizardry)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do to him the same as we do here. Tell him where to get what he needs
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this has been less than helpful, thx
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's a suggestion. I hate spending more money than I have to, and repeaters aren't necessarily the easiest, either.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i've gone down the road of "just follow the instructions on this website" and that turned into "i was afraid i'd mess it up so i stopped, is there something i can buy and just install or something like that?"
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The problem is that no matter what, she's going to need to follow some instructions.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i was just surprised that wireless repeaters were as pricey as they are, and thought maybe i'd find people here who knew of some brand or whatever that would be better
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sure, and when they come from putting a CD in and following a wizard, there's an acceptable comfort level
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, to be honest, I'd just google "best low cost repeaters" or something like that.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: following instructions from a website doesn't meet that
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i did, but thought maybe there was a "oh, so-and-so calls it a blah, so google doesn't find it" thing
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and maybe someone knew the so-and-so and what the blah was
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i like how tech is still like dealing with helpdesk support... first couple of comments are rarely helpful :P
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Did you turn off your modem, wait 30 seconds, then turn it back on?" -- Uh, yes, I did. "Okay, do that now."
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that depends on how you define helpfull. All the comment were working solutions
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: gtfo ayasinda
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thats not at all what i said
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: now now scars, it was actually exactly what you said.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: such a fitting name you have
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: rather sudtle if you ask me
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "First couple of comments are rarely helpful" is not saying "They aren't working solutions." It's saying "While they may be solutions, they're not helpful in this sense."
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: How do I set a specific room as the default goto room for mapper?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: In an area
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You make an alias to do it
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: something like goto *... then match * to a list of areas, and for the appropriate area, use mapper goto <roomnumber you chose for that area>
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Hmm. Thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Np.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As far as I know, its not anything built in to the mapper, though. Another option is to make individual aliases for the areas.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Like alias aylor to mapper goto 32418
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: That would be a hassle tho
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... it's a bit of a hassle either way - just one you make the alias once, and uses a single alias vs having to add each room individually
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a way to check which plugin has an alias
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: what's the veraible argument for mush? is it kill * , 1$?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %1 in the action part
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: woohoo thanks abe
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the trigger part, it's not really up to MUSHclient...non-regex glob patterns use * for wildcard, and regex uses (something) for pattern capture, with things like .* or .*? as wildcards
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so without clicking "regular expression", yes, "kill *" and "bs %1" would work
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If I put a USB 2.0 device into a USB 3.0 HUB, will the whole hub switch to 2.0 speed?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: anyone here can help me with my Aard version of mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ask the question
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: in general Roxane, its better just to ask your question, not ask if you can ask / if someone can help / etc.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: Not sure what happened, but I have a mini map that appears when I move before the room descr and now suddenly one appears after.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: so two maps every time I move
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: I didn't even know if anyone was actually on here. Should have known there would be.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even when there's nobody on here, may people do -h when they get here and answer questions they see, so it's still best to ask away
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also less effort to just ask then ask to ask if you can ask
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you install or uninstall a plugin recently when this started happening?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: okie dokie
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: hahahaha... plugins... me? No.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: I barely have aliases.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally, you wouldn't see the minimap at all in the main output...it's captured by the miniwindow plugin that's included...right-click that plugin and select "echo map in main output"
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err right-click that miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the one that has a ? in the upper-left corner, and the middle should say "Map will appear here once you start playing."
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: Yup, figured it out, now to test
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: hrmm.. nope, that wasn't selected.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 28c3 posted some really interesting seminars online
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sorry, i guess lecture would be a better term
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: I decided to google it.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: roxane: type "tags"...it should have "MAP" set to "YES", and "Global tags option" set to "On"
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: I usually have to type tags off everytime I log on.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should absolutely NEVER type tags off when using aard MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it breaks almost everything included with aardmush
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: of course not. I should go back to my regular muschlient that I used for about 18 years now. Never had issues.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type it when you move to a different client, but not in aardmush
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://namingschemes.com/ 
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For ideas on naming your servers =p
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hey, all my naming schemes are in there already :D
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol. Maybe they're spying on you
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: should tick triggers on mush be sent to execute?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: depends what you're doing in them
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: just doing swho checks
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what you're triggering on has no bearing on what you should send to
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether to send to execute doesn't depend on what kind of trigger
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: good point
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: world is fine then, if you're just sending commands to the world
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just what you're sending...execute means "parse aliases in this send text"
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: trigger just doesn't seem to be triggering. Trying to fiddle with it
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: if you are using mush there is a trigger testing mechanism
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe silly, but make sure you have ticks turned on...MUSHclient itself knows about ticks without needing them turned on
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because they're sent via GMCP
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: nod i have show-tick on. Thanks though, that would have been silly
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: just curious if there are any UNIX text mode clients that support things like gmcp or mccp by default?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: you can run mccp as a client side proxy thingy
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tintin++ supports mccp by default, and gmcp with some config
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue and tintin can both do mccp and gmcp
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: yeah seems tintin and tf both require that but was just wondering if there was a better configuration
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: you can run mush in wine if you really want and have a gui
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: ok my bad for using misconfigured distro packages then :)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: proxy is not needed
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: yeah I didn't think it was these days
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the guy that makes the aard MUSHclient package runs it in wine as his normal environment
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Probably best to compile from source, distro stuff tends to be old.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: wow that's amusing.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: well my tick trigger works when I run a test, but it doesn't work when the mud actually ticks
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: should I be making a variable for the status following the tick? "(All: 100%)" and what not
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need any variables, but you need the pattern to match
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: no idea why, but putting in a variable worked. --> TICK <-- *
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the standard matching type for MUSHclient is glob, which is fully anchored
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a wildcard, not a variable
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ah, well it fixed it I suppose
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: thanks for responding everyone
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yes, it's because "--> TICK <--" is not the same as "--> TICK <--<something else"
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bank of england is short 1300 tons of gold
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: how hard would it be to make the database backup set aardmush as the current focus again when its done?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't hold your breath
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Isn't the backup run inside of mush, how would it lose focus to start with?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: if it backsup during battle when its done it passes off control to any other random window like chrome or something and I have to click back in
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a cmd.exe copy iirc
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: ya it opens up a cmd window
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's Windows choosing where to focus at that point
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It won't backup during battle I thought? It says "postponed due to combat, trying again in 5 seconds" or something.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: google chrome has a bunch of different size icons, anyone know a quick way to resize an image to match all those icon sizes?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: When I played years ago, the command you typed into the command box would stay after you would hit enter.  How do I set it up to do that again?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Game > Configure > Output
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Game > Configure > Input
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: Awesome ty
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it's labeled something weird
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: oh yeah
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it's auto-repeat command, not keep command on command line
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Game > Configure > Commands
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: check Auto-repeat
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: Ah ok was gonna say I couldnt' find it
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: Perfect, got it thanks!
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: I kept pressing backspace for no reason because of force of habit from years ago. Lol
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never would've needed to press backspace, though...typing replaces the previous command
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and before and now still, you can use up/down arrows to go through previous/later commands
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: Very true.  Well never thought of just doing that.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: Force of habbit I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean the habit never would've been necessary to get into even years ago
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: <nods>
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: welcome back :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I also prefer to keep mine on line - hitting enter once is one less keystroke than up+enter :)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: I would I could recall why I did it.  Now it just happens.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: and specifically, I did mine for reading notes - it's easier to just type note once, and hit enter a thousand times :)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: in mush I just hold ctrl and whack r repeatedly
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: anyone here help me build a gaming comp for current and not yet released graphical MMOs?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you gots moneyz
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just go on twitch
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: find a good streamer, and check his spec
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: ah i see
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: how do i be sure if it can sli or crossfire or what not, and if its haswell... not reallys ure what that is
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: sli/cross, it says on the motherboard, most 150 usd ones support both I think
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: oh ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: haswell is intel's new cpu architecture
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is it worth replacing an ipod nano screen?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe sli/crossfire only matters if you have more than one gpu
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: as far as crossfire/sli, most of the time you'll find that buying a single good card is better than 2 lower end cards
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: less heat, less energy and roughly equivalent performance
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: then in 2 years or so, the better card you bought now, will be cheaper, and you can buy another and SLI them then
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: well i dont ahve a huge budget, so i thought future expansion i tmight be most efficient to buy the best i can now, and then be able to add a second card later?  hwo do i know if a processor is haswell or not
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Qaebl scoffs at saving energy unless you can do it without degrading performance.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei . o O ( Qaebl drives a Hummer )
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: eh Qaebl, its been show over and over, that a 450$ nvidia card is roughly equivalent to 2x 200$ cards in SLI
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: whats the minimum you think i can spend and still play up and coming games decent like ones not released yet and the current ones
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: depends on his budget but I guess it's low
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: yeah exactly
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: and still be good for upgradability
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: for a "decent" rig, probably a ~200$ video card, 200$ cpu, 150$ mobo, 40-60$ in memory (8gb-16gb)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye how much money you got there
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I spent about $2,100 on my comp about 5 years ago, already pre-built.  It'd be a lot cheaper than that to build an equivalent one now, and it's still upgradable, and can still run the most recent games on highest settings easily
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I just play on my laptop like a boss
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: what I really need is a good usb sound card and some good quality computer speakers. My speakers just died and I'm down to a couple pairs of sennheiser studio headphones.  Any recommendations. Onboard sound is a bit of a pain when you've got music going constanly. I like hardware knobs.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that's including all peripherals, too
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: a decent mid range 128Gb SSD will run you around 80$ and is WELL worth it in terms of performance increase. and pick up a 1tb (or thereabouts) HDD to put your videos/music/pictures etc on
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: for a mid range rig you can probably spend < 1k$ and have something that'll last 3-4 years
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: well Id prefer laptop, but my current one cant play the games, and i figure it would cost a lot less to build a desktop than to buy a gaming laptop, 
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: gaming laptops are terrible ideas imo
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye for sure
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: so this less than 1k desktop we are talkigna bout, how does it compare to the around 1k gaming laptops that area vailable
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They're not as bad ideas as they used to be
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the cost is insaine compared to a desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 5 years ago, I would definitely have agreed with you
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: eh
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: even now
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: dollar for dollar
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: so a 1k gaming laptop would be alot worse than a less than 1k desktop i build?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you'll get better performance and future expandability out of a desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but a laptop just has other advantages
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza nods at TrEz.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: all depends on what you want it to do
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: right... will around a 1k gaming laptop be able to play the current games and the new ones coming out like Elder Scroll Online, EQNext etc.?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you want top-end, sure, you probably want a desktop.  But you can get a quite capable gaming laptop for not an extravagent amount of money.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: kalrom, can it play them? yes
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: any specific non extravegent amount of money laptop youd recommend?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: at what level do you want them to be played?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ultra? high? medium? (or i don't care as long as it turns on)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: well.. i saw some pictures comparing the different qualities of some games,and i didnt see a huge difference between medium, high, and ultra
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have a mech keyboard for my laptop, it's so nice
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: low didnt look so good though, the shadows particularly
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: wahts a mech keyboard
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: alienware's cheapest gaming laptop is $1,200.  But a lot of people consider those to be overpriced.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: shadows are one of the hardest things for video cards to do well
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get an apple ipad
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: mech I think is mechanical so tha'd be something like das keyboard.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll be crap for games, but will make you feel trendy and superior
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: dont knwo what a mechanical or das keyboard would be like
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: think of keyboards they made 20 years ago
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: rock solid
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: never dies, and has perfect precision
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he doesn't sound like one to be alive 20 years ago
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: has actual switches under the keys so you don't make typos because keys got recorded in the wrong order and they're a lot easier on your hands
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: i was alive 20 years ago :)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: why don't i sound like i was?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone with any nouse was alive 20 years ago
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people born since are generally rubbish
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cheap chinese knock-offs
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza chuckles at Tigernuts's joke.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: seriously what in particular makes it sound like i wasn't around 20 years ago?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: yeah I wish my cat hadn't knocked my drink into my other keyboard. 
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: what about Asus ROG laptops?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: I'll grab a good keyboard when my IRC, IM MUD and commandline usage kills this one lol and that's not long in coming.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: modern people strut around with a unjustified i'm-metrosexual-and-intellectually-superior strut, without realising that the two generations that went before screwed everything up and sold their future into serfdom
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i know a few years ago ASUS laptops had big heat problems
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: especially the gaming ones
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i odn't know about now
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: sager?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mine is fine
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heat tends to be a lot less of an issue thanks to finer fabrication process and lower power consumption icu
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if you go for a laptop, first thing you do is format the hard drive and install it without the 40 trialware/bloatware apps
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: how would i do that, the version of windows it comes with usually is on a special partition that would always intall that stuff right?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if you have to ask
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: never mind
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: lol, then how does one learn
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: idk tiger, work provided a nice dell business class laptop (brand new) and that thing's exhaust has been measured at 120F...granted its a Dell..sooo...yeah
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably on-demand cooling. 120F isn't exactly burning
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: kalrom, google "how to reinstall windows from scratch" :)  there is a whole world of guides over.  Also just diving in and trying is a great teacher.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that's just the exhaust, the bottom is about 130-140.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you don't want all your personal details being uploaded via microsoft to the nsa and any corporation paying, suggest you avoid windows
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: lol, yeah tiger, sadly he wants to game
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: most games still require windows no?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: run them in a sandbox
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: besides if yoru browsing the web it all goes to the nsa anyways
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or in a vm
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i'd say about 50-60% of the AAA games are crossplatform
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: LoL tiger
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: run a high CPU/GPU intensive process in a VM?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: VM graphical integration has come a long way
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but it isn't *that* good
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: thansk everyone :) ill probably ask more later... i have to weight pros and cons of laptop vs desktop, one pro to desktop is i coudln't play all the time, however nwo that ive started playign this, i always have a game i can play, which is a pro, and a big con lol
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: clever, google invented time travel - imagery date given as 4th October 2013
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: either that or their localisation is buggered
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: knowing google, its the former
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: teh aardwolf client has a graphical map in it, how do i learn what the different colors mean
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: if you would please :)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Kalrom: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper#What_do_the_different_room_colors_mean?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: Woah! thanks lol
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is there anything to be done after rebooting twice, if i am experiencing 67-77% packetloss, and dns failures to common sites like verizon.com, windows.com, dia.mil, and cnn.com ?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did you reboot the computer or the router?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark & Emo Skyris Tech: how would i connect midpssh? Aardmud.org:4000 doesnt work.
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Is there any technical reason why spreadsheets left adjust text, but right adjust numbers by default?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark & Emo Skyris Tech: midpssh say it's connected to 'aardmud.org:4000' then it say connected but nothing else happens?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: how do i get on midpssh? I got the details and all that but all it says is connection to aardmud.org:4000..... Ok
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: any1 to awnser?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keechda Frans Tech: what's midpssh
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: its a mush client for mobile
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sound more like an ssh client than a mush....
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a ssh/telnet client
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: yes it is
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: just checked afterwards
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: anyone know how?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you on mxit?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: yes i am
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then it's probably your isp that blocks aard connection or ports for some reason
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: what does isp mean?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: internet service provider
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unable to connect to aard via a telnet client is a quite common problem for mxit users
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so assume it's blocked in some way
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try port 23, or one of the other ports, maybe you'll get lucky
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: should I update mush
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trez: I'd say it depends on how old your current one is, and what's changed since...I try to keep my test folder within about 6 months of Fiendish's current
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: if i download a new version of mushclient, what files do i need to port over to replicate my setup, mapper, triggers, aliases etc? 
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download client...that page tells you
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: download page on mushclient tells you
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: download page on aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i meant
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: oh doh, thanks! 
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Someone say doh?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You backhand Bamboo's forehead and say, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: that would be me, slapping myself :)
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bamboo keeps hitting himself in the head and uttering, "Doh!"
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aslyn falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: soemthing weird has happened.  im using the aardwolf client, and there is a graphical map, adn then the text based map shown in another window, that map has never shown in my main gaming window before, but now it does when i move, and it doesn't seem to update the other map widnow, how do i fix this
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: type map off
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: thanks, but its not showing up right in my map window in the aardclient like it used to?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tags on then tags map on
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and if you turned the map off, turn it back on
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ok and its also messed up because in my main window it told me i was sent a tell but didn't actually show the tell, that was only in the communication log, wheras before it would show in both places which is what i want
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: I am getting the same problem, none of those worked for me
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: im gonna close my client and be right back and see if that helps
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: Lord willing it will :)
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ok map seems okay
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: someone tell me please
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ok i think its all working again thanks all
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "my map isn't working properly"  "type map off". Is that about the dumbest response anyone has ever given on here?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: wax off
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone got time to walk me through the creation of my first zfs pool and then filesystem? :)
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: what os?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: mint/ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: zfs is crap
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: not my specialty. try setting one up that you don't have to boot off of.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: fiendish, it is?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's suuuper slow on linux
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i dont mind if its slow, im encrypting the disk anyways
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: btrfs has nearly all the features of zfs plus others, is much faster, and is actually still being developed
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn. so zfs isnt still being developed?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ok, lemme go see if i can use btrfs X.X man so much reading
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Can anyone out there reccromend a free FLV player??
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: vlc or mplayer?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Difference? I wanna use it for something similar to youtube streaming but it says a FLV player is requried
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: FLV is flash, to my understanding.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: drag/drop it into your browser
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: What is the standard one?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: standard one?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: flash player?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. FLV is like an AVI file sort of.. its a container file for whatever
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: What would I drag ad ddrop into my browzer and how does tha work?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What is it you're trying to do, Sak?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I dont have one installed some dumb idiot put a raw hard drive on my computer
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: most flv will play on a browser (i always used FF so not sure on others)
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: er. If the drive was blank, you would not even have an OS to boot in to.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And Adobe Flash is a free download.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I had to install adobe and java myself.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And, Sak? 
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Thank you, Thats exactally what I was looking for.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: OK, so we've spotted two of your mistakes...   ;p
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's not part of windows. theres no requirement it be installed by default on a new PC, or after imaging. 
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Well I guess I didnt install Adobe
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sak.. you just said you installed "adobe" .. did you not mean flash?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or were you talking about acrobat
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Looks like I never finsished it
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I coulda sworn I did
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that would do it. Also, you might need to install plugins for Chrome, or what not. if you're using a different browser then IE.. but I think that might all be rolled in to the installer in current versions... been a while since I installed it
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Just having issues with my movie website is all
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sakata nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: probably dont have flash installed/properly installed. Depending on what the site uses to stream, anyway
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://get2.adobe.com/flashplayer/ if you dont have the link handy to download it
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you need it, anyway
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... got to love it when people want help, then ignore you when you won't help them do illegal things
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: help me rob a bank?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the monolopy bank is too rich
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You wouldn't download a Bank!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you know that thing about downloading a car?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i missed my p =/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can download a house!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Everybody knows that when you play Monopoly the banker always wins.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: apparently someone has been working on that... they're downloading a car and using a 3d printer to make it
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: You know what, tech -h is frigging HILARIOUS, How about this: 06 Aug 23:57:28 - You tell Daloran 'You asked, and I brought it privately.' 06 Aug 23:57:52 - Daloran tells you 'I didn't ask, actually'06 Aug 23:58:19 - You tell Daloran '[06 Aug 23:46:12] Daloran Tech: What is it you're trying to do, Sak?' 06 Aug 23:58:29 - Daloran tells you 'Yes? And?'
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: With Makerbot anything is downloadable!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Congratulations on being pregnant, Hadar!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I hate retarded people.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sakata.. No Personal attacks.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Now you are going right back where you belong.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they've already printed everything made of plastic.  Guess that means half the engine, too.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol, Sak
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's only a matter of time
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though it's pretty scary
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think eventually the technology will exist to print guns etc
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It already does
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can print guns =/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It already can print guns.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: out of plastic?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yup
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Someone's printed up a gun and fired it.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: they are 100% plastic, so avoid metal detectors
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just few days ago they announced that they could fire 14 times with a rifle made with 3d printer
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Who the heck doesnt watch an occasional movie? Honestly?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wow, that's pretty impressive
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes, the currently common ones only last a few shots before they deform uselessly.  Someone is currently looking to develop a ceramics-based plan that lasts longer.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, i was thinking they couldn't handle the heat
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fwiw, Sakata was trying to download illegally a movie still in theatres. Just saying, since he decided to post half a convo ;) But I'm done
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: actually i like the house you can download and "print" out
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i guess it's more like a 1 shot kinda thing
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Posting half a conversation to paint yourself as a better person... well...
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: No I just told you I wanted to  watch a movie... So what? He asked what I wanted to do I told him and he wasnt happy with it Etzli thats all it boils down to.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: maybe he doesnt like your taste in movies
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I don't have too much issue with piracy, but if you can't even handle the basics you are the sort of person theatres exist for
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aren't theatres supposed to be using those anti-piracy lasers?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It seems like you weren't happy that he wouldn't help you accomplish something that's illegal, to be honest.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 06 Aug 23:55:44 - Sakata tells you 'Can you see this? Dont click the download link..' 06 Aug 23:55:45 - Sakata tells you '<URL Omitted>' 06 Aug 23:55:57 - You tell Sakata 'I'd rather not.' 06 Aug 23:56:19 - Sakata tells you 'Its a copy of R.I.P.D that requires a flash player' 06 Aug 23:56:47 - You tell Sakata 'Now I especially won't. What you're doing is illegal, and doesn't belong on the mud.'
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: My computer worked just fine on the sites before I got the hard drive replaced, ive never had these problems before.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: what's R.I.P.D. ?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: failed movie
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Looks like a b-movie that forked out some extra cash for Ryan Reynolds
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: really important police department
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Its a FLV movie, who cares wether its a legal movie or not? Its a type of movie I can't watch and its bothering the heck out of me.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: oh yeah that movie lol
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Rest In Peace Department"
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: download flv player?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: download adobe flash?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yeah i probably wouldnt help you that much with that movie either, looks stupid
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, we don't discuss illegal things on tech.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You should know that, as long as you've been here, Sakata.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yeah I downloaded adobe flash and every single link is giving me the same error.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: and the error is?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Maybe the NSA is in your computer?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the nsa is in every computer
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: does the flash test at adobe.com work?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Well I wasnt discussing it at all, and you wouldnt have known if you didnt go digging, point is FLV doesnt work period. By the way can you help me hack someone? Jesus?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: why do you want to hack Jesus?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Noone went digging. You decided to ignore me, then disparage me on tech.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: When someone has a tech issue, more info usually helps...
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have an axe you can have, i dont want it back, and i want a witness that i gave it to you
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: what distro are you running?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Microsoft gives the NSA their own login to all active copies of Windows.  I assume there are similar deals with the other OS companies.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: The center of this screen isnt popping up: Don't get paranoid its for the Adobe website. http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I can guarantee there is no such deal in any reputable open source OS :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: But the download supposedly went through.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: did you install it?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: did you restart your browser?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: guessing you downloaded the wrong thing or you have java disabled
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did you just download, or did you actually install
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you have an adblocker in play or similar sort of thing that perhaps is interfering?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: So apparently I have to download Flash and Shockwave or all in the same?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: flash
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Anyone else out there understand why he got ignored? My patience is thin,
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Imma have to start reading my scroll rather then the history. Before I get banned for that one. *sigh* alright back to work on this.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, no. Your patience may be thin, but you seemed to have ignored him because after finding out you wanted help with something illegal, he refused to help you.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I ignored him because he said he didn't ask... right after I showed him that he did most definately ask.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And you asked "who cares?" or something similar about watching a movie? Well, the MPAA cares, as do the actors, and producers, and whoever else loses money off it. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I did not ask you to link me to illegal materials. I asked what you were trying to do. EG: Watch a movie from a website? Stream a video to another PC? 
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: afaik actors don't lose money
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: unless it's standard practice they get royalties?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on their contract, red. Most contracts to my understanding include a percentage of gross ticket/movie sales
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: rarely
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Royalties was my understanding.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: most are paid a flat amount. robert downy jr gets a % because he's a smart man
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not rare at all
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Business arguments aside, for which there are many, many sides (i.e. the profitability of movies sets actors' initial payments, so it doesn't matter if they get royalties or not) the fact remains it is illegal, and you can't honestly expect everyone ever to be ok with that.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well said, Vak. *looks for the upvote button*
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: No I cant expect that, but im recovering from surgery, im in pain, and I dont really have time for someone being a prude.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is exactly one person's problem. Guess who?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I just want to relax and watch a movie.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So go buy a movie.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then rent one, watch TV, etc
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im sure you have plenty you could watch again
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or watch YouTube videos. Or invest in Netflix.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: redbox FTW
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Redbox is always giving out free rental codes.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: or get the trial for netflix, then cancel it before you get charged
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: 99% of the time I watch seasons on places like that I got my hard drive replaced 4 months ago and just realized I was having a problem, I'm such a criminal.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: whether the law is just or not, you can't expect help with illegal stuff.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Petty law or not, it's still a crime.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Whats it matter? My computer wast playing FLV, that is all.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: unless you are trying to watch stuff on hulu i dont think many people would help
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Okay, I'm trying to watch stuff on Hulu.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Better?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except you're not.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use a different browser
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then you need to discuss with Hulu your problems, as they are best equipped to instruct you with with's wrong.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, with what's wrong.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: After all, it's their website.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you're paying for customer service, might as well use it!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: hulu has too many ads now =/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I still can't beleive hulu plus doesn't remove the ads =p
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Well, I thought you said someone would care if I was trying to watch Hulu? :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i know it costs more then netflix, and you still get ads!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Someone did, and offered you the best solution. :D
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you were. Not if you said you were. 2 different things
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: Hulu does, whatever that is
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes - Hulu would care. They won't your ad dollars.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: chances are, you said friend gave you a HD, meaning the os might be pirated, which then leads to other problems trying to do things, so we may be able to give you suggestions to fix stuff, but they may not work
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Its all FLV files though
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: have you tried a different browser?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I have tried Chrome and IE
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Its definately a software issue, happening on several different websites
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: do you have firefox anywhere?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sakata did you try my youtube link?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: No ill do that now
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zytan Tech: Are you sure that its not something specific to your computer?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: whether by design or by accident, illegal components tend to screw stuff up and sometimes don't work together too well.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zytan agrees!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: if she can watch youtube she should be able to stream videos
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i treid your link hadar, and now im watching a 22 minute pilot.. :D
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yeah but its not just that one thing though thats causing a problem. Its just that one thing that caused me to finally ask for help.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: youtube is evil, i started watching magic tricks one day, and 2 hours later i was watching youtube videos on public toilets =/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zytan Tech: Exactly, so it may be that a deeper problem is causing all of the surface level problems to occur.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you hear that hackers are hacking those things now?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh i went from watching chem experiments to popping blisters
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: public toilets?? you sure that was youtube?? :P
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceCompression
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: CLICK IT. You know you want to.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: NO. Must resist tvtropes... or i won't get any sleep =p
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Youtube videos seem to work. Websites like Filenuke and other popular ones, megadownload (which are not always used for illegal content except for when you have private streaming links, and you can not watch those movies on without them so no fuss on this) are the ones im having problems with.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya like it was on the restrooms that are like self cleaning and stuff, and then somehow i ended up on this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVE1ow6MUU8
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://xkcd.com/609/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Different type of streaming then youtube possibly?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: some youtube videos are not flash based, so they may work regardless of flash
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: wait it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWMsPj9d2I8
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Actually, I suspect I know what the issue is he's having.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Well I downloaded shockwave too and if this fails im going to take my pain meds and just go to sleep :-(
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: My original plan was to find all of the old sailor moon videos, you cant find them ANYWHERE anymore.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sadly she cant see the answer you give :P
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Then I got distracted :/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah well. No worries
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: are the videos downloaded or streamed?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Its streaming
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: frank & sons here in california, you can find everything there
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I dont download anything
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download, then open in vlc
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.amazon.com/Sailor-Moon-Season-Complete-Uncut/dp/B000093NPZ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375850117&sr=8-2&keywords=sailor+moon+box+set+dvd Huh. I found them pretty quick =p
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ouch sailor moon is expensive
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.amazon.com/Sailor-Moon-Limited-Edition-Box/dp/B00A9ZJD0Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1375850167&sr=8-3&keywords=sailor+moon+box+set+dvd quite a bit cheaper, for 1+2
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: You actually found it? 99% of the versions I have found are in japanese with english subtitles?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And thats a problem why now?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Working at a movie theater was my first job, and its so funny... I could remember standing in the booth in the back of the building fighting with the other workers about who was gonna clean the sticky stain off of the seat or worse, clean it. But never once did we interrupt people in the act per the bosses order. I worked at 2 other theaters since then too.. Pretty much same policy.. So next time your sitting in a seat know that there is a 99% chance it has or had bodily fluid on it.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: whoops LOL THAT was a m/c
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In your home theater, at least you know where the fluid came from.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i set up a dns zone through cpanel, do i need to edit something else to get it to read correctly?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Anybody know the Search & Destroy Plugin well?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: for mush
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspired Android Tech: anyone using bast for planes mobs ?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can you check what plugin has an alias
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you will probably have to open up the script file in notepad and look
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Trez, have you checked to make sure it isn't a mudslide alias?  You can also turn on tracing and then fire the alias...might help.  It's very very spammy though.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or tell us what the alias is, one of us might know off hand...
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: hm trace works but
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesn't say what plugin contains it
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I thought there's maybe some function to show info about an alias etc
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but there prolly isn't :p
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: apparently I put everything odd in a plugin called misc, but some aliases remained :P like sws and craps
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll find it
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: what db in mushclient holds the spell and skill names that basts spellup plugin uses?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: im having a problem with pass without trace. it is doing the pass social and not the trace command
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: the skill is trace to use
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just "alias pass trace"
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i know. i need to change that in basts spellup database
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: silly me not reading properly :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: since it is a skill, the first word is used to activate the skill, there is no way to tell how to activate a skill from the mud
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: oh wow you are here
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: so in the case of pass without trace, it doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: can i just rename it trace
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: manually?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, it uses the first word in the skill name and it gets the skill name from the mud in slist, it will just reset it if you change the database
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just type "alias pass trace" and create a mudside alias
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: is there a way to use skills by the SN?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i know cast 12 or whatever but is there a skill #?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, you can't use skills by the sn, otherwise I would have done that
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: well the alias works anyways thanks for the great plugin bast u are a script wizard
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: compliment?  I think he just called you a bot! :P
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: no it is a compliment.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: there are no bots here shhh
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: on a more serious note, you can get the cast-style functionality for skills via a clientside alias.  You'd just have to parse the number to get the correct skill command to use, and maybe validate further arguments.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can't tell how to activate a skill from its name though, some will be first word, some second word, you would have to keep a table updated and that is a pita
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i know. it would fix it if you could alias a skill name in the plugin. have it use the normal command default but add an optional override that you can type in
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aren't you doing essentially the same thing with the spells, though?  I assume you're working with slist, after all.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: spells are cast by number im assuming
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Tripphippie.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, scripts using slist can do c <spellnum>, or c '<spellname>' from slist...but slist's entry of "226,pass without trace,3,0,100,-1,2" doesn't give the info needed without an exception list or override
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: in my opinion the slist should only have commands and not full names
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can just add an additional field to that list to hold the command.  Spells, of course, would have cast, and you could evaluate for the skills.  Once made, there'd be no real reason outside of Lasher rearranging stuff to ever destroy the list.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's handy to refresh periodically, both for new spells and because it's a more-programmatic way to get current statuses
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: SNs, names, and most of that data isn't going to change, ever.  Destruction and recreation is going to be less efficient.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: actually, dropping a table, recreating it, and then adding rows is sometime faster than updating all rows (especially for smaller tables)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: depends on the database of course
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: versus just updating one column?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where are you getting one column from?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're already getting all the data, and you're getting it in a "bulk add" type format...if the MUD had another command to give you a "slist update" where it didn't bother with things like the spellname, etc, then sure
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, okay, two, since some abilities do have a recovery.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you can't get just those columns
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but we already know the other columns aren't changing any, so there no reason to rewrite those.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's more effort to update than to add, with no discernable performance difference
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: it is probably faster to drop the table and rebuild than check what has changed
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't need to check what *changed*, just update the two columns that *can* change.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's still more work for the script and the database
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: but you still have to find each one and change the data in it while the other way you drop the table and rebuild as the list comes in
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: also depends what you are using for a primary key and whether or not you have references to it.. if you're using an incremental counter and have fk references, dropping and recreating won't guarantee the pk is the same before and after
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: whats a good website to find entry-level IT jobs?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: has anyone used eq sets from bast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: google or bing, I would bet.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jobcircle used to be good for IT field
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Zoee: me, although I don't like Bast very much
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I had a job thrown at me before I got back into searching when leaving my last place ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: apparently jobcircle = beyond.com now
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: he's an a*hole sometime
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i wish i could get a job thrown at me :)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: javascript timing in chrome. i have rather massive pile of if's and for's and arrays each setTimeout cycle. yet there is not even 1ms delay(i saw 1ms correction once). it is suspicious and maybe my bug- how much js code can Chrome execute in 1ms?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dysan Tech: a lot. people are running webservers using chrome's javascript engine
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: speaking of chrome i get this annoying startup tab of yahoo search and i cant see any settings or programs that causes it
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: extensions
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i had the same thing with utorrent
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: its not on extenstions list
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: only roboform is on there
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: oh nvrmind it was on  startup pages
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hey there. i was wondering if there's a plugin for sets that actually works. i downloaded bast eqsets but it's useless.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: again, how is it useless? I know of several people using it just fine.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krynal Tech: I have no problems with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: try http://eq.gaardian.com
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: when i try to add item it give me an error about weraloc doesn't exist
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krynal Tech: type wearable and use those locations.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: Bast that doesn't mean i have tried your plugin but jsut giving another option
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what wearloc are you trying to add?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: medal for example
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you type medal or medal1?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there are 4 medal locations
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: the command is eqs add id level
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: wearloc should be default
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: medal is not a wear location
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: medal1 is a keyword for a wear location
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: add medal1 to the end of it, and you don't need level, as it will default to the item's level
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: let me try that then
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: Cannot wear this item at the wear location medal1
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what version of my plugins are you using?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: ok, seems it have to give up on it.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: 2082 rev 2071
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: either i'm too dumb to use it or it doesn't work. most probably the former rather than latter.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: upgrade to 2089, that issue was probably fixed in that version
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: will do, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: thanks bast, it's working now
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: etzli, what os do you when connected to your network?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Same as I've had before - Windows 8.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My replies may be slow - in class still, will be heading home in about a half hour, though.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, sent you a personal note
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: anyone familiar with web audio api?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: could someone with experience using bast's eqset help me for a sec? I've added some stuff without using an argument for the set or container allowing it to use the level default and the bag that the items are currently in. To test it i can use the getset and wearset commands. But putset doesn't do anything. Any help getting putset to work would be much appreciated
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Anyone here using Linux?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Distro of choice?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Started using Linux Mint Debian Edition, and it seems good. Otherwise vanilla debian.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I think I've got a debian iso here somewhere. I saved a computer from college from being thrown out, and was upset when it wouldn't run Cinnamon well.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 atm cause I dunno.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I used to like ubuntu, but they include so much junk nowadays, so I dropped them.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But, for me, as long as it uses dpkg and not rpm, I can live with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: any web audio api specialists around?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: would like to store a very short sound in a variable and then just play the darn thing. cant find proper examples anywhere
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: not even on youtube?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: nope:) i saw one but it has disappeared now:(
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: didn't bookmark it
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: what is the command to reset the SnD window
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: who was i just talking to
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: about snd
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: So i downloaded the winkle snd 3 pack, they all load in except the map extender 
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: is spams me with  sendgmcp request char over and over and isnt a command
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: xset reset gui still isnt working either, nor is ww help.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you disable the GMCP plugins?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: dont know what that is.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in file->plugins, do you see the GMCP handler plugin, and is it enabled?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: disable?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you have aliases disabled?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that's likely the problem
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: if im moving an updated snd file into my mush file, do i send it to db backups or somewhere else
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I'm trying to install handbrake on my ubuntu, but I'm getting a handbrake-gtk : Depends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad dependency problem. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Bleh, eqsets not letting me add items :(
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to the following. Download a fresh copy of AardMUSH, copy over your Aardwolf.db file in the main directory, download a fresh copy of Bast plugins, copy your stats.db found in the "Logs" folder in the main directory in AardMUSH. Identify all of you equipment by using the mouse over and refresh the equipment plugins each time you change your inventory.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: how much slower is onchange vs onmouseup in html5? the range input there
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Would I be able to have even MORE FF/Chrome/Opera tabs open without being slowed down if I was running them off a SSD? Or is more a RAM issue?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure why not
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm looking at recontracting my phone line, and am considering between getting the samsung s3 and s4
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the s3 is less than half the price
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know if there's a notable advantage to the s4?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: bigger screen
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Not a huge advantage, I'd guess. If you're concerned with money, the S3 would still probably meet any of your expectations.
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i suggest investigating the nexus 4, before you pull the trigger on either
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: assuming you're on a gsm network
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: As someone who has an S4, it is very good, but look at the HTC One, if you are able to buy it wherever you are
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb_black_promo&feature=ha-text-sem_bk-n4&utm_source=ha&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=sem_bk&utm_content=n4&gclid=CNicvefc77gCFUoQKwodRw4AAA&gclsrc=ds nexus 4
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: How are the Linux users here connected?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Over TCP/IP? =p
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: likely using TF or TinTin... i think some run mushclient via wine
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then there always just good old telnet. or the web client on the aardmud site
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Har-har. I was thinking of using the mushclient w/wine, for all the plugins and that.
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: shrug. i gave a few legitimate answers. Har har if you wish.
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Nah, I appreciate it. Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: anyone know how i can stop page down key from executing 'down' when the main output window is on the current active line?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: i swear it never used to happen
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Is it in 'game>configure>keypad'?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: assuming you're using the MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: is numlock on?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordRain Tech: is anyone familiar with pei's sound plugin
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: who uses bast sets plugin? need some help to start up
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hey techies, i have a js registry error on my pc. how can i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: anybody know how a mud could somehow be used as a 3D modeller?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: or could confirm that it can't
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: If you dry it, it'll set in whatever form it had before.
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: i know but i looked at the bigmap and I sort of had this idea that it could work somehow
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: like in a sim city sort of way
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: but actually I thought about it and you're right, if you could model it like play doh
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: that would be easier than the other modellers
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: You probably could in theory.  Nick worked up a prototype Wolfenstein interface at one point.  (I think it was Nick, anyway)
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyober Tech: anyone got time to help me with search and destory plug in
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i want to use gmcp in a script for mush, how do i do it, is there a tut somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: help gmcp
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Any c++ programmers here?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: normally just ask and if someone can answer your question they will
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'm just looking to chat, really.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: First, I suppose, though, it seems like you need a pointer for every dynamically allocated variable, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Late, but if you don't have a pointer, how were you planning on keeping track of the memory?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: If you've got some dynamically allocated memory without atleast one pointer, you've got a memory leak.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Disclaimer - I haven't touched C++ in about 4 years. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It just seems funny that you need two variables worth of memory for it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'm just starting, so I couldn't call you out on anything ;P
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Anyways, any variable you use new on you need to delete afterwards
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: And you need a pointer to be able to do that.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: If you repoint the last pointer without deleting the memory first, it's lost to you - you don't know the adress to it any more.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Why can't you just name the variable and use it like normal?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: And wouldn't you still need the pointer to be declared at compile time?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: RAM these days is cheap - ridiculously so. The cost of an extra address per variable is negligible, and when you deal in the STL it isn't even an issue, as the way the containers work make it about as memory-heavy as declaring a primitive anyways.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: If memory is so cheap, why dynamically allocate at all?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The difference you are looking for is the difference between the stack and the heap - it can get quite complicated, but in short the stack is a static size set at compile time (and allocated at execution time) whereas the heap is dynamically sized (and allocated as it is needed)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Memory is cheap - knowing how much you need ahead of time is not
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: So it's more an issue of ensure that there's enough memory for the program to use, rather than making sure it doesn't take up too much, now?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's an optimisation issue - RAM is cheap enough that an extra address is negligible, but not so cheap that you can toss 4gb at every process
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Any time this comes up, this link eventually crops up: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/79923/what-and-where-are-the-stack-and-heap
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is an exceptional discussion thread (that gets worse the deeper and lower-voted you go, so bear that in mind) that should help you understand the why and how
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Thank you. I'll have a look through it. How much memory does the pointer/address take, 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: anyway
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: There's also the whole bit about references and value types - if you send a normal variable to a function, it'll get copied in it's entirety. If it's a big one(class containing some form of binary data usually), it'll be copied byte for byte for every function call.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: If you use heap memory instead, and dynamically allocate the variables, you'll copy the pointers from the stack, 4 or 8 bytes, instead of however many mb the data might be.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Depends on the implementation - 32-bit addresses take up less space than 64-bit addresses. I would ignore it in 99.99999999999% of cases personally
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Confounded CeriQ is agreeing with that Captain HR Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Thank you both :3
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It can be a help to do some pure C programming on the side, malloc/calloc/realloc are quite good at teaching you about memory use
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Anyone have any experience with bitcoin mining?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I'm considering getting into it and buying a KnC miner. Them being in Sweden(same as me) gives me a ton of legal protection regarding the payment and non delivery, plus they're not too expensive $/gh...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you have free energy source it is not so profitable, IIRC
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I have free energy. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mom's paying is not FREE energy
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: And a 400ghz miner requires a 500W PSU, so it shouldn't be too bad.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: It's included in the rent.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can make more money selling BC miners to other 'investors'
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: So it's free for me.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: at that case, it's profitable since you pay same amount even if you dont use miner
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Yeah, it's just the investment cost.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: KnC are promising delivery in october. They haven't even started delivering yet though, so it feels a bit like a shot in the dark.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is better business - wind turbines
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use electric motor to power wind turbine and profit
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Tranchx... What? =D
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean buy cheap power from traditional sources, power your wind turbine, and then sell expensive 'green' energy
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pei falls over laughing at that one
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Ah. Like vattenfall - build a bunch of wind powerstations, and then import all your electricity from german coal plants.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: pretty much
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if you're gonna do that, might as well not bother actually funneling it through the turbine to lose so much of it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Nah, turbines are just for show I think. :D
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: baaaaaaaa hahahahahaha
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Anyways, I'm looking for opinions here, sinking a couple of grand into a miner when I have free access to electricity. Good or bad call?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I'm quite impressed with Btc itself and believe it has a place in the world, so I don't think it'll crash anytime soon.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bad
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It's obviously a better callt han if you didn't have free energy..?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Crash meaning disappear entirely - it might drop in value though.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Bitcoin's quite volatile in value, so you might be able to count on a boom again relatively soon.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: law of diminishing returns
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bitcoin is actually quite vulnerable at the moment, thailand made it illegal. which is worse than stepping on bill that has royalty face
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and that is 10 years sentence right there
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Other places have been lifting it up though, iirc. You can buy things with it, someone. I don't remember..
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yep, and with micropayments being free now. it's actually useful
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Bitcoin is only as secure as its algorithm, and its perceived value - it also is increasingly targeted by various taxation and similar agencies.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: must be said, that bitcoin algorithm is extremely secure
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I would take a million bitcoin-like entities before I would endorse the nightmare that is Paypal however.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: All the power of a bank, none of the oversight
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: one guy did a contract with the bank - but he changed it, the bank's maiden didn't read the contract and heh.. he'll hopefully get his millios:)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It isn't millions, its the interest on the principle of the credit card...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or is it principal in that case...could be, idk
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: nope. there were .. my darn english.. something about prematurely cancelling the contract
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The story has well and truly made the rounds, Russian guy will have to pay back the principal, but he will likely get out of the interest and fees. That is if they don't sue him for fraud and copyright infringement (he used their logo on a contract he wrote up without their permission)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. i just read it this morning
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are at least a week behind then :D
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: but todays story was that he sued the bank
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: for a LOT of money
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, committing fraud and then suing for it isn't usually smart
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The fraud part is disputed, and there is no gain from it without suing
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not much dispute to the fraud...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: well, the signatures are there, the contract was done. they should have read it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Its been upheld as not fraud by one round of courts already
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then that court hasn't looked up the definition of fraudulent and should be removed from the bench
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: he probably cant get the money but the poor bank person is completely.. done
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You realise this is a Russian court and doesn't need to conform to US definitions?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: best part of that is that back cant say it's in contract. 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: back...bank
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you realize that the basic definition of fraud isn't a US concept?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's not fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he did nothing else than sent his own copy to bank that he had signed. bank didnt read it. it failed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is a deal signed by both parties
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The basic definition of fraud has no place in a court of law, which deals in strictly defined definitions of what does or does not constitute fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: read small text much?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In the US it would not be covered under fraud anyway, it would be covered under the 'meeting of minds' contract requirement, and the whole thing would be null and void. He would owe the original amount as he does now, and that would be that.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh: the strictly defined definitions of what constitute fraud is what he broke...even in Russia, even in Russian law
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: what in russia is concequenses from this? bank loses: every other bank can have their deals. bank wins, every client can say bank changed their deal
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in russia consequence may be 4 years in prison, and banks watermark everything
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If he did, the court would have decided against him. It did not, and there has been no outcry beyond the bank appealing the decision as per normal channels, so I can assume if it is considered fraud it is quite borderline.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he did nothing wrong, he only gave bank what felt right, and bank agreed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not borderline, no...fraudulently representing your document as the bank's
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You say he did that - that does not make it fact
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: no, bank gave him promise for document. he changed it to fit his, and bank agreed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you never bartered for cheaper loan?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me saying it doesn't make it a fact...the fact that it's an undisputed fact of the case makes it a fact
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are extrapolating further than the undisputed portion of the facts.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: fact is, bank fucked up majorly.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no I'm not, vak
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He changed the wording - many people scribble changes to contracts during negotiations. So long as this was done before signing, it is not fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: bank could send him signed document (by bank), then he could not change contract
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He signed the updated copy, then bank signed updated copy - there is no fraud there
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't change the wording as "scribbled changes"...he 'shopped it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: in civilized world where government doesnt spy on people like in usa. client comes before business. thus bank fucked up
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's text, it isn't as if he set it to a confusing typeface
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nuanse, careful with the language
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Was it signed by the bank after he changed it?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If the way he changed it is the problem you are sitting on, what about using whiteout and then typing over that? Same diff.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He just used digital whiteout
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bank did poopoo
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Well that doesn't seem like fraud then. If he had taken a signed document then changed and submitted it, or something, then yeah.  There's no reason for a bank not to read and check a contract just because it has a logo on it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: IMO though the whole case pokes a whole in the Russian contracts law - meeting of minds clauses exist for exactly this reason
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh: using whiteout, then typing over it, then sending through a copy machine so that there's no whiteout...which is quite well shown to be fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not before something is signed it isn't
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he did nothing like that abe
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes he did, nuanse
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He did Nuanse, but he did so *before* it was signed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he wrote the contract himself, signed it and sent it to bank. bank agreed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not quite, nuanse
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can do whatever you want before it is signed, it is up to the signing party to do its due diligence
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not true, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: abe, he did, he got propotiotion for contract, he changed it to his behalf( note bank had not signed it yet) and sent it to bank. bank agreed all terms
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for him to "write the contract himself", it would've had to have been his contract...photoshopping their contract and presenting it to them as their own  contract is fraudulent
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: are you now saying that contract doesnt matter if you feel so?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he didnt photoshop it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes he did, that's the issue
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he wrote it himself. from start to finish
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he scanned in their contract and doctored parts of it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and presented it to them as their own contract returned
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are using an emotive term to imply something that didn't happen. He didn't manipulate a picture to look like something different, he changed text. He edited text, he did not 'photoshop'.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: which is no fraud. because he didnt change made contract. he allowed bank to review the paper and disagree it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bank poopooed 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: he fraudulently misrepresented his contract as the bank's contract
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he didnt
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he did, nuanse
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Oh? And usually such a document would have other information, such as a revision #, or other such "control" documentation.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: he did but its ok
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no question whatsoever that he did
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: did he properly remove all of that?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he returned his own contract with values he felt right. 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no he didn't
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bank needs to be more careful
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Control numbers are not part of contract law - try arguing your way out of a loan because the revision number was a duplicate
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I think it may depend on the exact communication between the two parties. If he said, directly "This is your contract and it hasn't been changed", it's fraud. Otherwise, and it seems like there was no communication, or the bank would know there were changes, it's not fraud.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he didnt, he only represented his own contract to bank and bank agreed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: is bad deal dealers, or customers problem?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't represent his own contract, he sent the doctored bank's contract, complete with their masthead
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: in this case, every bank needs to re-evaluate their system 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: which is my point. It's common for changes to be written over a contract. He just did his digitally.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Which is the same as if you had done that whiteout operation - not fraud so long as there are no signatures on the document
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: all tellers have to memorize the contracts
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that misrepresentation must be seen as fraud, or every contract that is out out sight for even a moments must be reread -- to discourage switching contracts by slight of hand
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: and read each and every one of them
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Simple fix, aside from changing the contracts law to include meeting of minds - don't send out unsigned contracts. Send out signed contracts 'subject to approval'.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aweyn: it's NOT common for changes to be written over a contract in such a way that they're totally undetectable by looking at the contract
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Zade's got a good point.  While I don't think inconvenience to banks' daily works should affect a legal case.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They are detectable, by reading it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they did read it...when they wrote it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: they are detectable, by just running it through system
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: A contract isn't a visual thing. All it is is the words written on it. To rely on visual cues is folly.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: every bank has scanners 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: ..ques?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well that was dumb, you read a contract before you sign it, not some other time.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since he was fraudulantly representing it as their standard document, reading it would be a formality
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: That's why you don't USE whiteout on contracts.  Or I suppose I don't, at any rate.  I cross out sections not desired, initial & date.  And attach addendums and so such.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Ylar.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's standard contract practice
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The fact that it is a good practice doesn't make it a legal requirement
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Well, if it was proper practise, there would be little case and they'd probably alreay be done with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: 'proper' as in lawful
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Or, if it's truly digital (in the case of passing a document back and forth for revision prior to printing/signing), you enable change tracking, to make it obvious what has been modified.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if there was case, bank wouldnt have lost in first court
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: And by whom.  And when.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that contract was probably plain printout - I mean ordinary paper with no logos, trademarks, watermarks
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the intent was to defraud the bank, since the bank 'd never sign that misrepresented document 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: it had logos and trademarks, no watermark
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: exactly zade. yet it agreed to it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: thus, it's legal document of banks agreement
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I think he may win the case, but that banks might implemt a contract contract, saying that changes can't be made unless they are declared to the bank and the bank confirms them, or the changes are void.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, with logos and trademarks (graphical) it will be considered as fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nuanse: if intent is to defraud (which you just agreed), then it's fraud ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: also in a proper contract, both sides must benefit -- how did nthe bank benefit (by being defrauded)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, both sides must benefit? nice requirement
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I dunno what the contract said, but as long as it wasn't "You'll give me a bunch of interest-free money" it would have benefitted the bank, sort of. 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this was basically one of those boilerplate "you're eligible for a CC" mailers, not that he was going into a bank and hashing out contracts with them
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it never would've gone to a teller, but merely to a mail processor monkey
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: There's lots of phone contracts and the like that benefit  the supplier a lot more than you. The 'benefit' is decided by the parties, by agreeing to the contract.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the bank "signed it" merely by mailing out a card when the monkey typed in his name
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Well having your party sign every contract by getting a guy to indiscriminately sign everything in front of him is the epitome of poor practice.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything that comes in front of you on your letterhead and prepared by your boss...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is apparently going to come down to a clause in the Russian fraud laws that goes something like "Infliction of losses by means of deceit" - and will then come down to whether it was actually deceitful to change the contract.  I don't speak Russian, but it seems like changing it pre-signing isn't considered deceitful.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: No one should be signing anything on behalf of anyone without reading it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's because you don't comprehend contract deceit, given your statements already :P
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wasn't signed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It's debatable whether he even intended to decieve the bank at all, remember. 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't...not validly debatable
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Abelinc, I'm quite well versed on contract laws, though admittedly not Russian ones.  It isn't deceitful in any country with a meeting of minds clause, and is in fact quite culturally dependent.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only as debatable as a Kojiro "I'm not trying to screw things" comment
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Google translate is getting a lot better at Russian :-) I remember trying to look at the old Stalker games dev sites and wondering what the gibberish meant.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It's entirely possible that he just wanted to submit a change, since he wasn't happy with the old one, and expected the bank to read his changes.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by hiding them by photoshopping the bank's own document...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It could easily be argued that he assumed it would be read before signing, and expecting it to be rejected - when it was not, he figured the bank was ok with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he wanted to submit changes, then he'd write in the margins, not doctor it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Facebook has Bing translate built in. The Japanese is so incomprehensible thattech Why?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: oops.. "Why"
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you want your argument to hold water, you really need to avoid dare I say 'deceitful' implications like 'photoshopping' - he edited text, it is not at all what you are implying.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'm just on a term emulator ^^;
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh: no, he edited graphics, not text
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Text is graphics. Around 60 little pictures that make words..
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He didn't modify any of the logos, he only modified the text. It doesn't matter what format it was in at any point in that process, it began and ended clearly readable text.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: and ppuctuation*
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what he did was LITERALLY photoshop it...not "my word"...it's what he did
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If I run a scanned document through OCR and then fix typos, or blank out a passage and type in a new paragraph, that is word processing, not photoshopping.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not what he did, though
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes, it is. He blanked out passages and inserted his own.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There was zero image modification, all logos and letterheads remained static
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: deliberately submitting a contract (imitating the bank contract) designed to cause the bank grievous financial loss seems indicative of intent to defraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you inserted some steps
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'd just like to point out that this conversation is beginning to stop going anywhere.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you begin with text, and finish with text, then what you did was word processing, not photoshopping.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not correct
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and he didn't end with text
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: The result is the same, which is what matters.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It's not like the bank would care what program he used.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The logo and letterhead didn't change. Only the text did. Therefore it was word processing
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your "therefore" is incorrect...and in fact your premise agrees with my statement
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Mind taking this to debate?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the logos and letterhead didn't change, which shows intent to present the document as their own rather than his "counterproposal"
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: which also shows that bank doesnt ever read what they sign...yet again
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's their own document, they know what it says
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: did they?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which was the point of the fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is debatable, Abelinc, and as I said before the basis for the upcoming case - did he simply edit the document as given (i.e. 'Why would I change the logo, it's already set out this way') or did he deliberately do it such that they would just agree with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: actually in russia you must know what you sign. in usa it might be different (hardly with snowden and all)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not successfully debatable
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I agree that this should be taken to debate
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Says you - that is up to the courts to decide
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Or ended entirely, perhaps.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: USA has the meeting of minds clause - this would become null and void as soon as it was discovered in the US
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the extent of the changes is what also determines the intent to defraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: vakieh, usa has also no spying on own citizens but yet, they do it. this actually doesnt become null as it gives information on every USA citizen there is ...without court
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and he would be prosecuted for fraud in the US, as he would/will be in russia, although tbh it may not be worth it given the amounts actually impacted
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his contract attempted to impose penalties which make the amounts significant, but the real amounts that had been on the card are just hundreds of dollars
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have been reading up on gmcp in mush, but i want to use it in a trigger rather then a plugin, is that possible?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: .
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Is MCCP compression possible in just a plain terminal emu?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if someone writes zlib libraries into it, or if you run through an mccp proxy
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i think duckbat has an mccp proxy right?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my method of connecting to Aard is that I use an SSH client to connect to a computer running a real MUD client
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duckbat has a GMCP proxy (it does mccp as well)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arkanes has a Windows GUI mccp proxy
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there are mccp proxies linked on aard's website "MUD resources/clients" page
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, like for car, bike, marine and truck batteries, there's a couple sizes and terminal placements but they're pretty standard
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, this computer had firefox v3.1.6 on it...doing an update on it updated to 3.1.12, and is keeping doing incremental updates...I'm now up to v12 after 5 updates
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what is a good free screen recording program that doesnt leave any watermarks?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: press print screen a lot and then create an animated gif.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Seriously though, I like Camstudio.  It's freeware, open source, and works rather good.  There are some issues with it, but it's pretty solid for most casual needs.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i tried, it had some dll missing.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: trying the ms expression
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Did you try downloading the DLL individually and putting it in the sys32 folder?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: of course not!
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: that makes me a desperate geek
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i try that later when MS has failed.. like it always does. in everything. except hosting mush
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Yeah, I wasn't impressed with expressions.  You'll probably get fed up with it rather quickly.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Like most MS stuff, lots of fluff and UI, not a lot of actually utility.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. MS often has weird ideaz with UI and how things should work
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: They tend to involve the mouse too much.  But they're catering to people without much tech ability, so it's often a fair choice given their demographic.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: More visuals, less deep menus and customization. Less overal power and utility.  The eternal trade-off.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: btw. after this last sentence i discovered i had been on a quest... my fingers reacted to sound triggers and the memory didn't record. im a bot
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I suspected as much.  You kinda failed the Turing test.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I have no idea what you guys are talking about anymore..
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: technical stuff. you wouldn't understand
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yea. this channel is for megageniuses only
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then what're you guys doing here? :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: c'mon, you could do better than that, Abelinc:) u tired?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Maybe he's just the bigger man in this discussion?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I don't know, the retro application of "I know you are but what am I" is a nice historical reference.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in more ways than one, amirite?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Not as pithy as "no u!" but well considered in a 1970s context.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i dont know, when did yOU do your las tutorial? cause im about to do one. ha!
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: anyone knows what this means: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "plugins reload eqdb"
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: it says: Unloaded plugin aaa7dc9ed92ffc6146964abc (xBroadcast_Inventory)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, is the error gone?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: let me see
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: nods, thanks a lot
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mars
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I've got Ubuntu 1204 installed on my spare computer, with xfce (naturally). Do you guys think I should install Mint 15 xfce and install unity on that, if I want it, or just leave it? Looking for opinions. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I installed Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) with the mate window manager. I kind of like it. Unity is terrible imho, to much bling.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I also think ubuntu is going down the wrong path, so that's why I dropped it. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Just something different, I supposed. And you can't really deny that it looks really polished. Ubuntu's becoming more of a centralise commercial entity, which may or may not be good for linux on the whole, but is very likely bad for ubuntu. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Anyway, what would be in new Mint that's better or not in lts ubuntu?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: LMDE is not based on ubuntu, it's based on debian testing, that's why I chose it. I would not recommend mint based on ubuntu, that seems like a idea for disaster, imo.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It's forked quite a lot lately, though. What desktop environment comes with DE?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: LMDE seems to me to be in the same place as ubuntu was 6-7 years ago. Just a nice desktop environment, that simply works.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Which one, in particular?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They have a couple to select from, I chose Mate, because it was a fork of gnome 2 and looked nice :D
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can get pretty much any DE you want, it's debian.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And they have rolling releases in LMDE, so no more upgrade pain like in ubuntu.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Oh, that was a bit of silly question. The distro often comes with software that goes well with default DE, and in Mint's case, they customise it a lot. I'd like not to change, if possible, is all.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: That too, though
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not sure how well the rolling releases work in practice, only had my new computer a couple weeks.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Conversely, I've never used an upgrade system like ubuntu's long enough to matter. I recently upgraded my Arch box, and that seemed fairly painless. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: What distro would you recommend for a fairly tech-illiterate Windows user?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've done ubuntu from 7.10 to 12.04. Worked well, most of the time.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would recommend getting a Mac. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I just downloaded ubuntu 13.04 on my macbook pro. I can't stand unity though. So I'm going to try gnome 3 over basic ubuntu, or arch linux.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I'm a MacOS transplant, if it isn't clear. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I really meant an option that wouldn't unnecessarily over charge a huge amount on hardware. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Probably ubuntu then.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Gnome 3 is often said to be just as bad as Unity. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I assume I'll be using xfce forever. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe I should just go back to ctwm. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I hope that isn't true, but we'll see I guess! lol
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I mostly just use a full size terminal with tmux in it anyway.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I've been using tmux a bunch lately, no doubt thanks to aardwolf. I'm going to venture into emacs land next. oooOoOOo. lol
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I prefer vim myself, but emacs is popular too....
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Since it looks like Ubuntu is going off this computer one way or another, I'll try out Gnome 3. I've been using blackbox4win on my windows install, so I might look into a wm like that too.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I keep trying vim over the years
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: just can't get a handle on it. I use nano mostly. lol
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: i like vim or gvim for the ease of searching
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It probably took me a couple months to get comfortable with vi(m). But that was over 20 years ago, so now I cannot use anything else.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: but yes it does take a bit of getting used to
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'm a little confused with vim and emacs. I've never used either, but I understand that they're text editors, but sometimes it seems as if people talk about them as entire software packages, or operating systems.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: What's up with that?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They are both extremely configurable, so you can set them up to be (almost) a full IDE, for example.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: They have a lot of functionality. People make all kinds of things for them. They have games, and an organizer, and spreadsheets of sorts, etc.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I think they may be able to do email? I can't remember exactly.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loreli is agreeing with that Ranrr person again...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can do pretty much anything with them, since they have scripting abilities. A lot of the stuff done is just silly, some is useful. Personally, I prefer to have my software do 1 thing and do it good, so I just use my editor as an editor.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Does anyone know if you can restore Linux Mint's Xfce to the stardard non-skinned one?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i installed Peis plugin. it has some issues so i removed the plugins. now i cant even login with mush - it sends "sendgmcp request char" to to login screen every second. meh?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hi i have a math or programming question whichever way you look at it. i have a group of values let's call this group A and it has about 1000 values. i need to select X amount of values from group A Y times where all the values chosen are as diverse as possible (not repeated) so each new selected group is as different from others as possible, is there any algorithm or way i could achieve this?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: they may repeat because of the amount of times i need to select the values but i still want the selected groups to be as different as possible from each other
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This sounds like a random stats selection.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: prime numbers might help
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: randomly order the array and take the first X values from it?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Do you want them to just 'be very different', or do you actually want the mathematically-sound 'maximum difference'?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: maximum is not necessary, only very different will be enough
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also, do you weight difference based on distance? i.e. 1 is definitely not 2, but is it more like 2 than 10?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: no the value itself is not important
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: basically the value is a class instance
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: let L be the length of array, choose X*Y mod L values randomly from the array, create a new array by duplicating the original array enough times to fill X*Y slots, adding the randomly chosen values to the end of it.. now randomize that array and choose the Y groups of  X values
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hopefully last question, does the diversification matter inside the selection, between 2 selections, or both
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i make a lot of selections (20+) and it needs to be diverse in those 20
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: so i don't pick similar groups because it would be a waste of resources
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Do you expect duplicate values in the original set?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: no all values are distinct, but it's allowed to have duplicate values in different selections
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds to me like the best implementation sets up a parallel set of data, which assigns a selection count to each individual item. Increment that selection field each time it gets selected, and do your selection randomly from the lowest selection counts
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm yea i thought of that as well but i'm not sure that will be completely random when done multiple times, maybe it will work
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So say you have 10 items. Set up a matching array of 10 ints init to 0. Each time you select i.e. 4, you add 1. Next time, you begin with a set of 6 at 0, and you select out of those only.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 3rd iteration, you select the final 2, then a random 2 from the already-selected 8
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want random you cannot speak about difference between sets
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as in case all picked sets are identical they still can be random
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It isn't 'pure' random, it's just not static. The more base data points you have and the fewer data points in a single selection, the more 'random' it will be
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm maybe you are right
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: i.e. if you have 10 data points and you select 10 of them, you have 1 possible result each time. 10 points and select 9 and you have 10 possible first selections
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: simplest random is just use any random function and remove element after you have chosen it to be in set, then repeat till you have set
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It sounded like he would need to use each data point more than once
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so Vakieh's pick from least used items is not random, but should give different sets
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: My pick from least used is the same as your remove idea Trachx, it just extrapolates it over multiple uses of the data
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you never reach 100% coverage you never use the weights, the set to 1 effectively 'removes' it from consideration
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Only if you select more data than you have will it cross over into 2nd selection
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you have 100 data points and you select 20x5 groups, you never repeat a unit, and it 100% identical to the method you described
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm ok, thanks for answers
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, what for you need such sets? for semi-random you could use LFSR and just pick different start condition for each set
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds like a test suite to me
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or perhaps the world's most complicated blind update scheduler :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: it's a statistics thing, not sure how to explain
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: generating data for as many unique interactions as possible?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hah i don't know what that means, i'm not good with math or the complicated words you use :D
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: how do you change the mapper to room locations instead of the world map?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What's it in an area should just switch? If you are talking mushclient clickable mapper.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: When it is in an area...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper tells how to get it to show the rooms even on continents
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: appreciate it
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's info on all of the plugins that the aard MUSHclient package ships with on that site, it's the site for development of the client
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: nice, the stuff on this mud is insane, completely new to aardwolf, trying to figure it all out lol
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: is there a way to reset the mapper, my bigmap image is stuck in my mapper, whether I detach it or not
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: when I type look it will not initialize, tried reinstalling and resetting and everything, gah >.>
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you type "bigmap off"?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: Bigmap already disabled.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: my mapper will not initialize at all, it just says MUSHclient mapper version 2.5
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "protocols", is GMCP on?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: GMCP       201 GMCP/ATCP2 specification.                       ON 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "protocols gmcp" is Room on?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then type "prot gmcp" and look at Room
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: Room             Receive room updates - used for mapping.            ON 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "gmcpdebug 1" and move a room, do you see the GMCP room messagE?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should start with "room.info" and be in orange
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: yea some oarge code looking text
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "gmcpdebug 0" will turn it off
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the mapper is still saying mapper version 2.5?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: let me check to see what else it needs to initialize
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit, close MUSHclient and re-launch
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: it was working yesterday, ok brb
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: still nothing lol
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: should I just reinstall?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it weren't installed, the window wouldn't even be there...doesn't make sense...have you installed or removed any plugins today?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: actually its giving me a runtime error when I first log on
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, that's why it's installed but not updating...copy the error to pastebin.com
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: called it runtime mapper
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: paste the url to the tech channel please
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: http://pastebin.com/Z62RAE3Z
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: close mushclient, copy the file db_backups/Aardwolf.db.Backup_Automatic to Aardwolf.db in your Mushclient directory and then relaunch the client
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you maybe copy a mapper database from a copy of the program from when you first created back in 2011?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: ok no idea how to do what you said, I found the db backups, how do I copy it
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: move the file itself...just normal windows file copy...but do it with MUSHclient closed
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: boom, worked
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: appreciate it man
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np, the error message said "malformed database", which means your database became corrupted. If it happens again, you can do the same thing we did to fix it
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: sweet, thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grumphling Tech: when using Bast's eqDB is serial number a synonum for Id in identify?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: i have just opened up my mush client but my chat window has gone, how do i get it back?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "resetaard"
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: anyone really Itunes savvy? 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, but since I have it open I bet I could fake it.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: laugh
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: okay so I have a lot of downloaded music/books/movies/etc that I didn't purchase through Itunes - and I want to restore my computer. Any easy way to back it all up?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: flash drive
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: i take it i'd just drop my entire itunes folder into it? 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Itunes specifically won't restore or otherwise put back onto your computer automatically anything that isn't AAC (or possibly identifiable as having been purchased)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: apparently I have more on my Itunes than space on my computer now, too :-( 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it won't even download such media as is stored on your apple devices.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use itunes music match, then you can re-download everything in there from the cloud...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: i take it itunes match isn't going to work for non-itunes downloaded items
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it does
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh 25 a year. bah
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that really pissed me off as I took the time to read in all my hundreds of still-working CDs, and then naively figured that since all those songs were on the iPod Classic Itunes would just resync.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quite naive...they don't want you and all your friends just syncing each others ipods to each others computers to make a merged library...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you CAN put them from the ipod back into itunes, though
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just not by syncing
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: anything I can do about having more itunes data than computer storage? You know, besides buying more storage for my computer. Some trick Im missing? 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and since you have your current itunes folder, you can just drag that entire folder over a running itunes to import it all back in
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: free up space...the laws of physics can only be bent so far...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can get terabyte USB drives for around 60 bucks...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (USB hard drives, not flash for that cost)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: could I buy a external hard drive or flash drive and then just run my itunes from that? - leave it off my computer entirely essentially? 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just know that it won't work when not connected...and I recommend forcing it to be a particular drive letter (M for music works ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: hmmm okay ill look into it. thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was for Windows, of course...Macs handle drives differently, and don't use drive letters
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah I have a mac
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any chance Acronis or EaseUs Recovery will work on a drive with bad sectors? They'll get everything on a good sector? Or am I looking at a "expert service" ?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There's always a chance. Of course, anything you do to a failing drive has the potential to make it fail harder.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So I should clone it first, if possible, and then work from the clone?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh? What did I just say about doing things to a failing drive?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Cloning will run that drive across the whole lot, which is 'doing things'
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So I should just tell the lady friend everything is 100% lost and then anything I magically CAN recover is gravy? :)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you have been silly enough to work on something without a backup, then the best course of action is to decide how much the data is worth to you (whether $ or effort), and pay that amount straight up - if you do things incrementally as they don't work you will end up spending a whole lot more.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Culleus Tech: is there any way to change an exit's level on mushclient mapper from the command line?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: rtfm, mapper help exits
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can work with the mapper via gui?  I thought it was all via the MAPPER command?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can start it from the command line, but it brings up the GUI
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the full-GUI way is right-click on the room
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can do lots of things from there
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Culleus Tech: how do you start it from the command line?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by doing what remarto said
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Culleus Tech: perhaps it's that i have an outdated version. there's no such command in my mapper help.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: then do mapper help
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper help xxx is over a year old...you'd do well to update :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but just "mapper help" before it was split up
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Culleus Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it was r1627 where help was put into categories...may 2012
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Culleus Tech: funny, i'm using 1748. i'm presuming i didn't update it correctly.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use ubuntu, and i noticed sometimes my desktop stuff dissapears (folders/icons) i think it happens after suspend, i dont know if its because im using wallch to change my background, or another reason, anyone have any suggestions on what may cause that to happen?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any excel gurus around?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I know a few, and I've learned a few tricks.
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's up?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: have you ever wished for aardmud aliases to have variable options? would it be too difficult to code?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. that tp was to prevent having too many keywords for some.. technical reason. i kinda remember one discussion about that idea
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone have a script for aardmush that practices sellup spells after remort? :P
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just copy-paste spell list to editor, precede it with 'pra' and copy-paste to mud
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: do you mean "practices" as in "calls practice", or practice as in repeatedly casts
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Arystul: my bast_spellup program will autopractice spells in your spellup list when you go to a trainer
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i want to store info in a DB that can change (between 1-15 fields) would it be better to just create the 15 fields and put the info/pull the not null info?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Unless storage space needs to be optimized, that would probably be the most efficient. Maybe have some variable keeping track of how many fields are in use to avoid having to check them all.
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i already do when im putting the info in the DB, i dont when the info is being pulled from the DB, i should add the extra field for that
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I'm trying to consolidate my itunes library and it keeps telling me that I dont have permission?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilpig Tech: anyone has idea how to put delay into triggers?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: my iPod nano bit the bullet, it was a 5th gen (no touch) is there an other brand equivalent or should I keep watching ebay?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so how about that hyperloop
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone know a simple android app that will let me input an expense/income amt, date, name/note, and display a balance?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borgo Tech: is "..variable.." the best way to call a variable in a lua statement
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's the difference between i686 and i486 architecture?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. what is the command to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: plugins reload bsst
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: doesn't worked turie
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hrmmm...
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Bast told me the command last day, but I do not remember which one is
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Close down MUSHclient and re-open it.
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: ok, I will try
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: same =(
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plugins reload eqdb
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: Mohan: You might try going to file->plugins and then re-installing xeqDB
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then "eqdb refresh"
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: nevermind
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: eqdb refresh then eqdb clean
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thank you very much Turie and Bast
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its not letting me turn off the skillgains tags is there a reason why this might be so?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: a plugin keeps enabling it?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: HYPERLOOP
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I have a confession to make
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I am Elon Musk
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Dat Hyperloop.
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if you are doing to do a ssd for OS(windows) and a data drive, how big should the ssd be?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}November Tech: mine is 80gb
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I'm running pretty successfully with 80.
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}November Tech: I have a 1tb raid-1 
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}November Tech: between those two they work well
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have a 120GB SSD and 2GB on a NAS. Not windows though...
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That should be 2TB on NAS.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so with companies like AWS etc. has it gotten really cheap to host a simple game like aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: hardware, bandwidth, servers all better, and this game is still simple text, how much do you think we need in donations to keep it up in perpetuity?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: help hardware
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone use Corsair Obsidian 550D computer case? or know of a decent one that helps muffle noise
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wow almost 4 figures a month, that is suprrisingly high to me
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: not that I know anything about costs
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: hadar no, but I would like to build an almost completely silent PC so if you find great parts please remember me
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hosting in the US is more expensive than in europe
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Put the PC in another room or a closet, and use 10 meter HDMI and USB cables :D
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does not work when your room is the size of some bathrooms
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea, NYC here same issue
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Your house only has 1 room?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my bedroom, and my moms, nowhere outside of the bedroom to store a tower
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Personally, low power and silent is top on my prio list for a new PC. I got a intel NUC, it's pretty silent and uses very little power. 
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was asking about the case because they use it in this article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/255764/how_to_build_an_energy_efficient_and_quiet_gaming_pc.html
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: is there a way to cut and paste from notepad or word into a note on mush without losing the spaces in between lines?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: actually put some spaces or other character besides tab or newline there
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: thanks, putting a . in the empty lines worked like a charm
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I've been thinking; if you take Synaptic and rip most of the packages from a Linux Mint install, do you have Ubuntu?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: Can anyone please help me? I mistakenly delete the clear label and i can't figure out what should i put in label in order to restore it.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is 'clear label'?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: .h 10
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: sounds like a blowtorch thing
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: put in tomato. then you can use week to ponder on which way you pronounce it
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: i mean one of the label that give by default, if i touch them and different label setting was popped up... uhh it's hard to explain
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: first: what application? 
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: what do you mean by application? I know nothing about this side... :(
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: what lost it's "label" is what we are trying to establish
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: that one with 'clear written on it'. i remember something like '.locust? .loadset? was command it contains...  
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: -
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: oh i found it! Sorry for bothering and thank you for trying to help me anyway.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: Is anyone around familiar with Unreal Engine 3 toolset?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Who are the best plugin creaters for mush
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: what laptop will run EQ Next adn all those things
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Any laptop...
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Enchantra: Bast, Fiendish, among others.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: bast's plugins are pretty good
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: any laptop will not
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: haven't found fiendish's yet or tried them
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Any laptop will.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: fiendish wrote the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: most laptops wont run planetside 2 etc
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: well then i have tried his :D
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: how can you say it will run eq next?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, he wrote the aardwolf specific plugins
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: Bast is there anyway to send you a FAQ update thingy for your plugins so new people using them don't have the issues i've had
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're talking about Everquest, then you should be more clear. EQ Next very well could be referring to a plugin. :) But still, any laptop can, provided it is updated with the requirements.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you really want to know, go to 'canirunit.com' (I think that's what it is) and it'll check your laptop as well as provide system requirements.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Ghargan: send me an email with your issues and i will add it
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: EQ Next is the name of the yet unreleased new everquest game
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: not issues but things i've discovered the hard way, that other people will also be going how do i do that about :-) once you get past the hickups i had your plugins are damn nice
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If it's unreleased, it may not show up on the site I gave you. Instead, I'd go to the company's website and check the requirements there.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ya thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're welcome.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: can someone help me? my phone is acting weird and I don't know what it can be
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: anyone here that has knowledge of blackberry smart phones?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logansen Tech: how is acting weird?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Pull the battery out, wait 30 seconds, put it back in!
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: its scrolling up by itself and jumping around.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: I have wiped...rebooted....taken out the battery for more then 15 minutes
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Probably a bad trackpad, or whatever they call those....
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: probably got a turd lodged in there somewhere
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: could it be the memory card? I have noticed problems since I've put it in. its a 16GB card
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: anyone super familiar with SND please send tell thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: okay, I've now taken out the battery for 5 minutes. let's see if this works
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: nope...still scrolling and jumping by itself *cry*
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: isn't the memory card...took it out and it still did it. suppose its off to the repair shop. 
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: blow on your ball?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: like compressed air
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: not funny Flak...
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and roll it around while you do
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: bah was intentionally phrased to be funny
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: only the older blackberries have trackballs...the newer ones have trackpads
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oh, well i don't know then.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what model?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: 9320
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: and its about 8 months old
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you try anything like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFR43_i8_fk
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: what? is it a video clip of someone smashing their phone with a ten pound hammer?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: isent there a mush command to show which rooms are unlinked in an area?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: any way to get a room off mapper unmapped? in reinhold there is a room that leads to a nomap room, and so if i go east, it wont clear it
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grelmar Tech: can i rearrange windows
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: do you mean for the aardwolf client?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grelmar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: yep, should just be click and drag
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: What's causing me to get this error message in Aard's version of MUSHclient:  Send-to-script cannot execute because scripting is not enabled.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sounds like Scripting isn't enabled.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you have scripting disabled
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Is there a way to turn it back on?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: ctrl+shift+6 click enable scripting
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Alright, thank you; I think that fixed it.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor goes: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: on some youtube videos im getting some "snow" stuff its green and yellow, has anyone had this problem? and how did you fix?
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: Daughter hit something again.. when I try to open my MUSH client, the Top only says MUSHclient, and I get an, Unexpected File Format error popup at start.
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: Anyone got an idea how to undo the problem.
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The hairy Hollister Tech: I got a question on 3Ds max. anyone familiar with it?
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i change starting room with mapper for an area
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: depends on the plugin don't think that is built in to Mush.  try xrt set for the winkle one though, I think?
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: when you are in the room of course
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: aah, xset mark
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Samsonite!!! I was way off!
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone use blackmart alpha on their android?
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: I am still new to the MUSH client and I dont know squat about scripting or programming, but is there a way to dump all my alias' to a file so I can back it up?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvudia Tech: does anyone happen to know how to increase the font size in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: anyone out there with a chromecast
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: my computer crashed yesterday, and now when I try to open my mushclient it says file does not have a valid XML signature and it won't load. Any ideas why?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: using an old backup of my mushclient works fine. But if I try to copy my old world folder it crashes again
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: what folder in mush contains the mapper database?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: main folder i think
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Which keymap is the one (most commonly) used here, ISO8859-1 or UTF-8?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ANSI
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There's extension characters (I think Latin-1?) but they're not core
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: huh? ANSI, surely not? ISO8859-1 (aka Latin-1) is standard in Windows these days. UTF-8 in linux and mac.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: standard in EN language probably
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That depends on locale settings.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The hairy Hollister Tech: I think the mud itself uses Ansi
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hehe, Latin-1 is far from standard anymore. utf-8 or even -16/-32 more than Latin-1
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Well, I've been using UTF for years. But I thought Windows was a bit backwards when it come to adapting to such things :P
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And the mud is built on some oooooold code, not sure the encoding was changed with the rest of it. Possible for MXP perhaps, but I doubt it
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Life would be simpler if we all went to unicode. Except during the transition.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Windows was backwards, but the .NET drive and attempting to compete with LAMP for software as a service has meant they are getting more into standards.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Hrm, it used to be ROM but I thought Lasher re-wrote most of it? I know it allows for extended keycodes to allow our umlauts etc.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The hairy Hollister writer down his next to google "what is keyMap"
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's the non-core extension stuff, which I know isn't UTF, which is why I guessed Latin-1
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If abe was here, he'd tell us all we are wrong.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Abelinc is a Mac-user, he's probably on Proprietary Mac Encoding Jobs-17 or some such :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Thanks for the feedback :)
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: hi how do i hide touch screen keybp
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: on blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrGee Tech: there a clear button
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: does any one know pls?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrGee Tech: see blowtorchs website
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: ok thanks :-) 
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrGee Tech: there is very usefull documention
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: is it www.blowtorch.com?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrGee Tech: yes i think, i not sure google it
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: ok thanks!!
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: my tablet dont got appstore.. must i download it?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I hope you don't need appstore to download it
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: wow ok
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: If I want to give a friend some of my triggers, how would I do that? through mush? copy/paste to notepad..and give to him, then hwo do he implement them?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There is a copy button when you open the Trigger.  Or you can use the plugin creation wizard, just MAKE SURE you unselect the button to remove the selected triggers, etc from the world file.  Also go through all the tabs make sure things aren't selected.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can import and export via xml, but probably better to just screenshot the gui, that way he can get a feel for making his own.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: I need help, I want a new computer, I think i want to go laptop, but i want it to be able to play the latest graphical and upcoming MMORPGS, like Everquest Next when it comes out, Firefall, Planetside 2, etc etc, but i also dont want to spend a huge amount of money, i am aware i could get a desktop cheaper, but in the end im thinking laptop will be best, any advice?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Cheap, powerful, not a desktop. Pick any 2.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth is agreeing with that Captain HR Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: best buy shopping at 2am?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You won't be able to get decent graphics on a laptop.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Certainly not in the same world as the word "cheap"
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: well what is the least expensive one that will do waht i want?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Um, Google is your friend.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: will some of the 1k to 1300 dollar models work?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Work?  Yes.  Work well?  Probably not.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Look up your games, write down the min specs. Add 20% laptop fee, because laptop CPU/GPU setups are generally underpowered compared to their desktop variants, and the min specs will be listed for desktops.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then compare that list against electronics stores listed inventory
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: And then plan on buying a step up from what you come up with
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I would guess the laptop equivalent to be approx 2x desktop price, if not 3x. More if you can repurpose an existing monitor/peripherals
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: trouble with laptops is how low is the keyboard going to last with intensive activity
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: long (not low)
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You could get an external keyboard... that's what I always do with laptops.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Docking station, keyboard and mouse.  Best way to use at home.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what abou ram -- at least 12 GB these days
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: hmmm i see
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is more ram more likely on a laptop or a desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: do laptops come with gpu with dedicated ram
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Expensive ones. With independent graphics.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Otherwise they use shared video memory.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the latest graphics cards - do they tun hot with a requirement for special cooling - unlikely on a laptop
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: run (not tun)
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: They get hot yeah, but you would think whoever designs the chassis architecture would create the best possible route for airflow and cooling as they could.. unless you work for HP.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: ASUS or MSI gaming laptops are decent.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: do decent gaming desktops start at $1600 
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: most desktops/laptops seem to be -ve pressure air-cooled fan systems which may draw in the dust through the dvd drive ?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odir Tech: anyone know how i remove the background picture in aardwolf mud client?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Anyone around with experience running junit in eclipse? I can't get mine to test the whole project anymore.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i want to "Archive" stuff with php/mysql would i add a date to it for easy access/cleanup or would there be a better way?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnad Tech: anyone use tintin++ my session keeps dieing and activating session gts. i cant figure out why or what session gts is.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnad Tech: nevermind ill just go back to tinyfugue now problems there
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnad Tech: no*
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What would cause a key to be repeating itself and not be stuck or touched?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a trigger
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This is in Windows 7.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: stickykeys?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ah, yes.  Stickykeys.  You probably held down SHIFT too long or something at one point.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have had more than 4 different keys to spam my screen. I reboot. It clears up for a while then it starts to repeat.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if this is doing it independant of any particular program, try looking at your accessibility options.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I had that happen when I was using terminal on MacOSX. I have no idea what was going on. Since I installed Ubuntu I haven't had the problem. Same Macbook Pro in both cases.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Where would I find those? Control Panel?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is no touching of the keyboard and this happens.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sticky Keys is not checked.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does this happen in every application (ie, notepad, whichever app you're currently in, etc)?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Any that have text writing abilities.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you visited any website or installed any unknown app that might have given you cause to assume a malware vector?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am highly doubt it. However, I am running Malware Bytes right now.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I will be letting it run a full scan to see what I can find with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there any period of use other than when you first boot up where it doesn't happen?  Or, firstly, do you use any script that attempts to emulate a macro/keypress?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a period of time before it starts.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have had as much as several hours.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I had an issue today where I could not use the ctrl+a, ctrl+c, and ctrl+p.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you noted any pattern about what apps were open when it started?  Did you install anything new prior to this happening?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I did try to install a Texas Instruments program, but it would not work due to compatibility issues.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Anyone use Mushclient with Wine?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: If anyone knows why my mush + wine keeps making me click on the screen every few minutes or so I am all ears.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: any commandline junkies able to help me for a moment?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as usual, just ask the question...and command-line WHAT
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dos is different than linux/unix is different than sql, is different than other cmd line stuff, etc
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I really just wanted to make sure someone was active before typing up the long question :)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even if nobody's active, the usual geeks read -h and will answer you later
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you don't ask, then they can't do that
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: what u need? i can help
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I ssh into a server, and from that terminal I'd like to ssh to another server and pull down the entire structure and files
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: You're right Abe that wasn't so bad
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you mean actually copying them vs listing them
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: go skype?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Milga.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes, copying from one webserver to another from the terminal - didnt want to have to pull them local then upload
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use webmin and execute more complex ftp stuff that way
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: hollyday, if u want to copy info from 1 server to other - u need scp or rsync
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see if you can use rsync on the machine...
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: hollyday rsync is better but scp is native util
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're both native utilities...they just might not be available on any given server
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have ftp access to the machine with the files - didn't know if scp worked that way (I dont have shell on that server)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: u have only ftp access?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you said you wanted to ssh from one server to another...well you couldn't do that without ssh access ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I have shell on the server I'm moving to, I was wondering if there was a way from the terminal to grab the data from the server with ftp access from commandline
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: u can mount ftp as patition
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: at server u moving to
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see if "curl" exists in the shell
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: mounting ftp its easy way
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: can't you just tar it and copy the file?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: he havent got ssh to "from" server
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quickest way is likely wget -m ftp://username:passwordp.of.old.host
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ok?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quickest way is likely wget -m ftp://username:password@ip.of.old.host
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks Abe will give that a try
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, forget to double @
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Hey by the way I have another question, can anyone answer it too *snicker
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you've used your allotment
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I was kidding :)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc hangs the "Closed" sign
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: didnt think about using wget to pull it via ftp - appreciate it, looks like transfer is proceeding
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the -m is "mirror"
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're creating a mirror site of the other one
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: which is why I vote Abe for president
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: secconded
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: so cute ^^
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: You aren't so bad once you get past the quickly irritated exterior
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've already been elected twice, so FDR ruined it for me
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: it isn't an encrypted transfer though unless you have built it with openssl. Hope it isn't sensitive data you are transferring.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nothing sensitive at all - just a non-profit website lol
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: brusk...I don't get irritated, I just always sound it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you would think people would be smart enough to just ask questions since that's been the process for years - some people!
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Doc Holliday, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I think I've even seen you advice people to do that ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: advise*
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but if anyone else is working with non-profits, dreamhost offers free hosting of their highest plan
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but it's different when it's me
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we self-hosted at the library system
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i wanted to replace the cord that my laptop plug, plugs into that goes to the mobo whats that one called?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: er, so I did something and now I can't see the top part of my screen on MUSH. Any idea how to fix this? It looks like it's on some form of full screen
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hadar: if I'm reading you right, it's the part that contains the brick, it's just a laptop power supply
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sepulchure: in the Windows task bar at the bottom, right-click MUSHclient and select "move", but do NOT touch the mouse after that...now use the down arrow key and the whole window should move
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you can see/grab the titlebar, you can move/resize as normal
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone ever heard of a condition, bug, or problem that would cause the master volume on an xp install to occasionally, smoothly reduce to 0?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: sticky volume key ?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Had that happen once.. For me it kept thing it was getting signals from the volume down button.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: heard yes, but  can't remember the solution that guy found :/
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone have a suggestion on how i can handle past data in a mysql DB? i want to save data indefinitely and be able to pull it up at a future time
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: isn't that what columns and rows are for?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or do you mean you want to enact something like an undo/redo for whatever changes you made to a particular cell?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: like its for a schedueling website im working on for fun for my work, i want to add a way to pull up the past ones you have done, so you can modify/print a new version, which should not be that hard to do, but im trying to decide how to best save the data in the DB
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are there any parameter limits on schedules or will they be open-ended (ie, no max number of positions)?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have it set up at 15 max things, you can see a working version at aardwolfbootcamp.com/work
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the easy (but not the most efficient) way would be one table with 15 + N columns, where N is the number of columns you need for other info relevant to that person (name, contact info, etc)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: however, that can lead to duplication and inaccuracies over the editing life of the db.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the first way is how i have it set up at the moment, i was thinking about calling it back up with the first day of the week, and the persons name
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: was not sure how effective that would be once i get 1000s of records
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you will be better served, I think, with a relational approach.  All that means, really, is that you create additional tables to only store pertinent info once and avoid duplication.  If you have a user named "Ted", for example, you wouldn't ever want to have to input his name more than once.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: do you know any articles i can read on saving the info that way? 
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't have the url handy, but if you search for db tutorials you should find plenty.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the version that is going to save the files is going to have a login with it already, so i can probably save it to the userfiles
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Database Normalization should also give you some good information.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would probably be better at doing this once i take my classes in school, but meh i like self learning
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: may want to check out w3schools.com to see if they mention anything about relational tables or db design.  I know they cover the SQL language, but I don't recall if they do anything else about databases in general.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: even for boots website, i have it seperated into different tables, but some of the tables have a lot of data, some dont
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Getting a grasp of database normalization and at least 3NF (Third Normal Form) will definitely get you a head start on classes.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use some normalization for boots website (For certain things), did not know what it was called though
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Yeah, a lot of it (to a point) is really common sense, eliminate duplication to prevent issues.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks for the info
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i wanted to assign people usernames based off of their name, like firlast# if i wanted the # to go in order i would have to query for people with the same name before i assign the number right?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: ask a question about mushclient , why it always display "cant conected", when i creat a new world with "ip address" configure?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: any js programmers free to help out? it takes max ten minutes or smthing.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. that 10 is waiting till the thing goes nuts..
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wasn't it you who was told to just ask your question yesterday? Getting some major deja vu here
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: well, the problem is that i cant figure out what goes wrong with my app. it takes 10 minutes to crash. i don't know how to track that problem
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Report, log, inspect, repeat
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: it doesnt give any errors. it does it's thing but will eventually hang..
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And? Errors can exist without causing thrown exceptions.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I assume you are familiar with the idea of a test suite?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: absolutely not
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i'll never write a line of code after this:)
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You have variables in your code, I assume?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And those variables have sets of values they are supposed to hold, and sets they are not supposed to hold?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The simplest test suite is just a whoooooole bunch of alerts or print statements embedded in your code, that tell you when a variable has a value it isn't supposed to. Then, you track down what is causing that problem
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: lol....I am getting virus threats from Google Chrome.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm.. yep there are plenty but i suspect something else. it runs, until it slows down and stalls
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: it runs perfect for 10 minutes, then the hickups start
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Put some printf (or whatever in js) statements so you can trace where the code is going.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You suspect something else? Your program consists of variables and code that acts on those variables - one or both is in error
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unless you have a hardware fault, but Occam says check the code
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have oscillators that are created, killed and recreated. i think the old ones are not cleaned up but.. they ARE
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean - there is a command that shuts them all down each cycle
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Where are they being stored? Do you have the ability to print a report on which ones still exist?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And by print I suppose in javascript it would be easiest to create a message box, unless you are comfortable messing with the DOM to add some text data
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thats the thing - there shouldn't be any left - they are killed and another oscillators have the same name
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To me it sounds like the problem is that you are trying to write a complex program in javascript :P
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So if we assume dangling oscillators are the issue (when you see assume, that probably means you are wrong, but lets roll with it) how can you check the kill worked? Is there a return variable you can compare against?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: nope. it is web audio api.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That sounds complex enough that I would not want to do it in js.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. there is not so many commands with that api. no official tutorials, no samish problems
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i don't know how to check if the oscillator is really dead
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is something of an issue - a big problem with new (esp self taught) programmers is they burn themselves out trying to get in over their heads. And honestly even with the programming background I have I would balk at keeping javascript stable more than 30 seconds.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you are determined to get this working, though, kudos - I suggest digging in as deeply as you can into the WebAudio api in detail
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Specifically look at the return values for the functions you are using, and whether you can test based on any of them to ensure that what you wanted to happen, actually did happen
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i guess. im pretty sure that nothing else goes wrong but the soundmachines slowly pile up secretly
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you don't know how to check, jumping to conclusions like that is counterproductive
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You could spend hours trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: heh, there's another person with the same issue..
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean he's got the same symptoms
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 2 people come into the ER with shortness of breath. One has asthma, the other a gunshot wound to the lung - before you can deal with the problem you need to know how to examine the 'body'
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i was required to turn off sound effects in zMud because eventually the simple #beep (at T=0) caused a dialup-renegotiation delay - as thogh something was piling up from the repeated #beeps, as though zMUd or Windows was not releasing something from each #beep 
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have 2 completely different ways until the sound nodes. both paths cause problems
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Until you are able to generate the information you need, like which objects are in which state, what is held in container x, what is the current RAM/CPU usage, etc you are effectively operating on one of those ER guys without being able to tell whether you are treating asthma guy or gunshot guy - you need more information.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (windbag bad analogies -- the gunshot guy is likely dripping blood, a simple visual clue - no need to examine the "body")
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The hairy Hollister Tech: yeah. when you see a  hold in someone's chest and blood is dripping you kinda figure he's been shot
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes Hollister, and in this instance 'see a hole in someone's chest' becomes 'look at the guy's chest' becomes in programming 'print a report on the state of current variables'
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "investigate and gather more information so a further diagnosis is possible" <--  even that is too verbose 
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not being able to see the current state of variables is pretty much the same level of blindness
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. yeah. thats. yeah. i mean.. i play dr.House now and assume that the nodes continue their secret life as deadly viruses..
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: EXACTLY - and your diagnostic tools are very similar. Test, look around, test again, make a slight change to one thing, see how another thing reacts.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There are shortcuts that knowledge of what you are actually doing with bring (like seeing if (myvar = 0) and knowing it should be ==) but in the meantime, testing will show you exactly where things go wrong.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Putting it out there, imma patent a beginner programming testing app that simulates medicine diagnostics.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ok, thanks. i have couple of clues now,what to do
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: patenting "expert systems" sb disallowed - (heuristic &) expert systems are too common a concept since at least mid-last century
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: just curious: var context = new webkitAudioContext() - if that variable is rewritten, it means basically it all starts from 0 again?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not 100% on javascript, but 'new' usually indicates more permanent storage
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It has a garbage collector, I know that much, but it is most likely less than stellar
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. because all that goes on with the audio is stored in context - it should be a clean start?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: everyhing is uncertain:(
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ok, I have some resources that will help you with this issue.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If at any point you hit a word that doesn't make sense - google it, as it was probably important.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Start here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2681511/memory-release-from-local-variable-in-javascript
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then here: http://perfectionkills.com/understanding-delete/
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Read just this section: http://javascript.info/tutorial/memory-leaks#garbage-collection-example
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then you will have enough knowledge to make use of the actual answer to the question, here: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/audio/raw-file/tip/webaudio/specification.html#DynamicLifetime
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: So I updated my bast plugin's and now I'm getting a run time error?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Upon leveling
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ancient Odysseus Tech: anyone know how to modify the mush statmon to add commas for gold?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to put the output through commas(), as well as likely using a require commas.lua
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: commas is already required, so you should be able to use commas() in the plugin...
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like you'd use that around gmcpval("worth.gold") on lines 219 and 373
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: is anyone familiar with google spreadsheets?  In particular how to modify or clear conditional formatting for a column?  It doesn't show the conditional formatting under format or that specific row
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't care for Google Spreadsheets much, except when I'm having to use it for work. I've forgotten how to clear conditional formatting - Almost sure it's under Format, though. This is why I do things in Excel and upload to GS.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, Format -> Clear formatting; Conditional formatting, too
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Well yeah but I'm looking to have a document accessible to more than just me and modifiable.  Some of the conditional formatting was there but it's still applying it to a particular row
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Ah, clearing the format works differently than deleting the rules
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: you wouldn't know why formatting rules for a specific column don't show up after using overall conditional formatting for the spreadsheet, would you?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way to see the channels tags while using the aard mush client?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: disable to the chat plugin
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ancient Odysseus Tech: anyone know how to modify statmon to add commas in for gold?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or take the time to edit it in some fashion that allows you to access that info.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's easy, except for the part where you have to convince Lasher to add it in.  In all seriousness, though, I assume you mean some plugin that captures and makes available that info?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: which one handels the channels? the chats_echo_off one?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: dunno, I use CMud.  Can always just start disabling stuff and see what goes away.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: now i miss cmud :( thanks for mentioning it lol
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they're functionally equal.  It's just the details of implementation that are different.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know if its a common problem to have the kernel lock up while using zfs?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats the device called that you can hook a laptop HDD into to make it act as an external?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: 'enclosure'
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: can anyone help me with bast eqdb plugin?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok i am busy making a prediction program for a school task i am trying to assign names from a database to a array using the following code :"HTS[x] := ADOQuery1.SQL.Add('SELECT Home Team FROM Matches');" but it says Incompatiable types Integer and String,the x is a locally declared variable to control the assigning in a loop and the HTS is a array of 0 to 40 of type string.Any ideas how to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: using Delphi 7 btw
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Been a long time since I heard of anyone using delphi... (sorry, can't help you).
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: anyone  know about in tank fuel pumps ?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: Sounds like a PITA to change one and doesnt sound like a sound engineering design
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're pretty common in vehicles
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: Thankfully though, none of mine
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, if the pump breaks, you have to replace the whole tank...? Sounds expensive.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't, just the pump
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have to drop the tank to get to it, but it's not part of the tank...
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm guessing that big media outlets don't actually want people consuming media on their websites by virtue of the fact that those websites are becoming impossible to watch because of all the embedded video and other bullcrap on it
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it isnt' stupid videos autoplaying when you load the site, when you WANT to look at a video, it's then clicking "refuse" to them sticking crap on your hard drive about a dozen times, then you get an advert you didn't want, then there's a 10% chance of actually getting the video you wanted to actually play
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where internet and iphone users pay for (extra) bandwidth, the extortion game is to encourage websites to pad extra megabytes into each website visit
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well...... this is why newspapers and cable networks are dying
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a lot of it is expectation, these sites expect you to allow them to plant whatever files on your hard drive that you see fit. When you turn your security settings up, even just a little bit, these sites completely fail
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: to download 50k of actual information from a website, the visitor is required to download several megabytes of javascripts etcetera, plus the adverts
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is why news aggregation sites are becoming popular
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: internet website programmers are getting a bad name 
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there are very few website programmers, zade, it's all CMS these days
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i.e you have comms teams running websites, not programmers
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the programmers just do what they're told, they're not the interface people, they're the "make it happen" people
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, i'm not
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: granted i'm not typical though
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it all just ties in with modern society and it's tendency to turn all good things into crap
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and much of it is end-user-driven...the decision-makers haven't learned that just because someone asks for something doesn't mean you should give it to them
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may be a "cool feature" on its own, but add it to all the other cool features and feature creep wins out over usability
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really, giving end-users what they want is an illusion, it's giving the corporation and their backers what they want, really
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But who is the end user that news sites design for? It's not the home user, it's who ever pays the bill.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both, really
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while as a home user you look at the whole and say "that's not what I want"...individual parts/features ARE what many home users separately wanted
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course not everything...nobody requests banner ads, except through not wanting to directly pay for content, but most of the things that annoy one person were requested by another
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: indirectly, we "need" ads, since we want stuff to be "free"
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, we want (and request) them by almost never signing up for the paid versions of outlets so it's a known-bad business model
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but then we go and install things like adblockers, and enter the arms race
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't mind ads
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: autoplaying videos and content that screws up because i don't allow cookies i can't forgive tho
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone use Bast's EQ database scripts?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how is it Google have managed to so fundamentally break Google Earth?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: google got rich, and they arel
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: oops, and they are getting worse and worse
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any CS-ubernerds around?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's your real question?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: How to pose a problem. If you're good with algorithms, we can talk about it in tells
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the way to pose a problem is just to describe what's happening.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as certain education-industry components have recently demonstrated, you should avoid referring to nazis and dead babies and anything else considered hot-button topics.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm sure the answer will involve blaming libertarians, however
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, it won't.  Those teachers actually got fired because they couched their math in the wrong word problem.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i install something via wine, where does it normally install?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im using cmud on wine now, i told the program to go full screen but it still has a gap on the side any way to fix that?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: $HOME/.wine/drive_c
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nevermind it fixed  fixed itsself
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone have an android lists app they recomend? Not tasks or todos, but lists and notes. Bonus for optional strikethrough, though no auto delete/remove, and manual sorting. I don't need voices or video or images.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Google tasks works for me
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Either Gtasks or Astrid are good choices
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Thanks for the suggestions Ixle. However, Astrid is closing (http://blog.astrid.com/blog/2013/07/08/astrid-winding-down/) and I prefer something non-cloud/google linked. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Gtasks should still work then, doesn't have to use google tasks
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Gtasks is task and todo oriented. I'm more interested in lists. Like a list of trees I like, a list of the books X website considers classics, a list of present ideas, etc.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: So I tranferred my entire itunes library to a hard drive. Cleared out the itunes on my desktop and my latop. Pulled up itunes on my laptop, chose library - point it to the HD folder...and it pulled up my itunes no problem. Did the exact same thing on my desktop and it refuses to pull up the itunes even after I choose the right library. Any ideas? 
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Same OS?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: copy/paste the folder from your laptop onto the appropriate folder on the desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I assume this is an external?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh, sorry i lost your replies in the spam
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yes. I have an external Hard drive that I copied my itunes folder into 
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: okay, and both laptop and desktop can see this HDD?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: though
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: they're both macs and on my laptop the harddrive is actually showing up as an icon on the desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: and on the other one, the one i'm having problems with, it only shows up when i search for it in finder
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not familiar with macs, but I suppose that would just be a shortcut...
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so, it's showing up like a thumb drive would on the laptop and just showing up in the search on the deskop.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah, it's a shortcut essentially....but it's the only difference I could find between the two 
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the laptop was the original install, right?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: well, no
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I had my itunes library on my desktop....copied it all onto the Ex HD. And then I erased/whiped my Desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: my laptop itunes was empty...so while I was doing the restore on my desktop I loaded up the itunes to my laptop....worked no problem
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I closed out itunes, clicked option and then itunes. That has you choose the library....and I pulled up the HD Itunes folder. Worked like a charm.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: however, doing the exact same thing on my desktop.....nothing. It points to the Ex HD folder it's suppose dto, but doesn't pull anything up
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: anybody here who programs in vb and ms access?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I used to a long, long time ago.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i have a snippet of code that keeps returning an error, would you be kind enough to look at it? i'll post it in tech forum.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: its a dynamic query
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: posted it.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: bo tech, note from seanjac, No Posts in this from from seanjac:
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: Just downloaded the latest MUSH package, how do I fix the size of the input bar? 
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: Atm i can drag it up wider, but when I type something in it it resizes back to 1 line of text high
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I don't think that it can be changed
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I have tried to do that too
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: My old version used to be able to. Sigh, upgrades, ey? 
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, it's a "feature", not a bug
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: Ah I see. It's part of the client window now, not the main miniwindow...
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: anyone know the address to put into the .cfg file for the compression client?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: is there a way to get client or mapper specifically to check areas for levels like it does when client first starts up, other then restarting client?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: To check areas for levels? Depends on what script you are using, that isn't native functionality
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: it is most likely from winkles triple pack then
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: i tried the mapper help files but no luck there, not sure what the help files are for the triple pack from winkle
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: help for Winkle is ww help, but that doesn't help you :(
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: Or if it does, please tell me, as I've been looking for a solution to the same problem :)
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what are you hoping for as an end result?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: In room campaigns the plugin ignores areas which are way out of your level. But that only works if they are indexed correctly, which they sometimes aren't due to a pagesize bug(?). Been meaning to look at the code for quite a while now
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I leave pagesize at 0 and try to be careful with long lists
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: Yeah, that is one workaround, but obviously not the best. I'll try to take a look at the code this weekend. It shouldn't be too hard to copy the indexing procedure and give it a seperate command. If I'll manage it, I'll give you a tell Lorken
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: yeah i do the same but still messes up sometime, i will just put keys in container and restart client, thanks all :)
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: follow techies. I need serious help with my computer
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: fellow*
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc types follow techies...Nobody here by that name.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: I switch my pc on, and it then it just switches off on its own a few minutes later
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the fans and air vents
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: maybe you need a good cleaning 
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: overheating could be a cause for that.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's either overheating and protecting itself by shutting off (it usually tells you this with beeps, etc), or bad PSU as the most-likely culprits
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: its horrible :'( check it for what? they all spinning
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Qaebl nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: first thought my processor was over heating so I cleaned the Fan out and got rid of any dust but its still dying on me
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: Oh, I forgot to mention. at first it gave me one short beep witch is systems go. and after it crashed And I switched it back on it gave a slightly longer beep. just long enough so that I could notice
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is there a crash, or just a power down?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: Like I said. it starts up and the Shuts down imediately
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Do you have another power supply you can attach to it?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: and, not quite in the same vein, have you tried disconnecting the power switch from the motherboard and tripping it manually?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: yes. but it won't be powerfull enough to power the fan and my GPU card
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: yes. I have tried "jump starting" it still does it
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: then don't attach the supplemental power to your gfx card. in fact, try disconnecting the 6/8 pin adapter from the card
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: and try powering it on.  then try using another power supply
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: ok, I'll try that. but only tomorrow. getting late here and I've had enough struggling for today
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: thanks for the help though
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: heh. after some serious gag triggers 1 combat takes like 10 lines of text.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its a bliss
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. removed all that is basically spam. and figured i've never looked at the prompr while fighting - thats gone. now its clean. nice
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the new damage options and "help spamreduce" can drop things down significantly without gag triggers :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: what's up with the mapstart mapend thing?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's for scripting, type TAGS MAP OFF to turn them off.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: thanks, no idea why that got turned on
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: so i was havin problems with my computer shutting off randomly and sometimes it would memory dump but most the time it was like pulling the plug, it got to the point that i had to let the comp cool down before starting it or it wouldn't get into windows... i pulled one stick and now it runs fine... wtf
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: overheating issues
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably an airflow thing more than a wrong type of hardware thing.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Chip creep! :p
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cockroaches are eating the wires.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: Oh no! Bugs in the system!
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: Have you downloaded a cpu monitoring utility if this is an intel processor?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone know how to do a conditional gag with mush, or if it is even possible? such as hiding a line from output only if a variable = 1
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know of a good way to use lua to connect to a DB both remote and local, i tried luarocks, but it wont work, im using linux and luarocks runs good through that, but wine/cmud cant use it, suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: -20l
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: any ideas why my screen wont scroll? cant scroll down manually either
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you press scroll lock by mistake?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: laptop doesnt have a scroll lock button
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's probably functioned onto something else, then, I guess.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at -h...Thunderax: to do that, you gag unconditionally, then you ColourNote() back onto the screen conditionally
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, forgot to complete my thought...the other way to do it is to modify the trigger when you set the alias to toggle the omit from output bit...all depends on the type of variable checking...i.e. gag if this war is not in my range requires the first...gag if "only show in capture window" is set can have the second
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: is there a way to turn this into a trigger in mush that echoes the time through says or something?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: Spell   : Enchanters focus (06:20)
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: where the 6:20 is obviously going to be a variable?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but iirc the spellup plugins give you the countdown time
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I just use 'saf focus' myself, though it would be fairly simple to trigger and send
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, when the heck did he implement text search filter in saf?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: ahh, thanks Vakieh that works perfect, didn't know you could add an argument
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's my learnin' for the day
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not sure it's a new thing at all
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I knew about category filters, but not text/name
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: nods, Abe, your advice worked too, i can sort the spellup plugin by recoveries too
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Kindle Fire HD a good buy for $149?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Fire is a cheap iPad knockoff, and it does it poorly. Get paperwhite for ereader, iPad, Tab or Nexus for padding
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Can vouch for paperwhite. Went from a Galaxy tab (which was nice, but I spent most of my time e-reading) to the paperwhite and my eyes really are happy for the change.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Hm, alright, thanks for the input. Just looking for something nice and portable for reading eBooks, and for sheetmusic. 
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Best thing about Kindles is the e-ink... then they go and make a backlight screen for the Fire and wonder why everyone pans it
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Alright, so, on windows 7, my little search bar in the explorer windows doesn't appear to do anything.. Anyone know what might cause that?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: where is that 'little search bar' ?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if Indexing is turned off, it could jsut be really slow because it's searching... I know mine takes forever on a multi-Tb drive if indexing is disabled
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I believe I do have indexing off, but I don't believe it's just running slow.. Especially since it's only a 500gb hd. It appears to just have no response other than the magnifying class turning into an x.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check search providers, Tools -> Manage add-ons
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Windows Explorer, not Internet Explorer..
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, now I also see little search window :) I was wondering where in IE was that window
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, do you see any hdd activity ?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: No more than if I'm not trying to search.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try organize -> folder options  -> search
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Well renabling the indexing service appears to work.. Seems like it should work without, oh well.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any computer science gurus around?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Need some algorithm advice for work
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 1 + 1 = 10
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: whatever you do, don't let users use english
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Well I'm studying csci.. but faaarr from being a guru.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: probably would have better luck posting a note... The few gurus around and listening might think that a problem too long to state on channels is likely to be long and boring.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I...have to agree with that.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: ack
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Ylar tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: a few more specifics might also give a better chance of a response... After all, how many cs people here are familiar with a zillion languages and would have a good chance of knowing how to implement whatever it is you're thinking of...
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone on freenode IRC?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: They ban all TOR exit points, I think, right?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: where can i get a script for telling me when a repop occurs?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does anyone know if there is a way i can force my jquery to fire when a page is loading up, i have some php variables i will need the jquery to match(like number of fields)
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: $(document).ready(function(){ ... insert code here ... })
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: dangit xantcha!
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: let my workspace load and you beat me to the answer.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I even took the extra seconds to cursor left and add the "insert" bit
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: $(Rhuli).unready(needstofastercomputer(){ ... or have the program running already ...})
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: Rhuli.orKnowTheAnswerAlready() == false;
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xantcha chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: lol i just upgraded the ram in my computer (my windows one which was 64 bit broke so i took one of the 2gb ram chips and put it into this one)
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Well, to be fair, I work with jQuery daily
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rhuli smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: To be fair, I have never coded.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rhuli sadly closes Eclipse.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Also, Hadar... you might look at using data- attributes... depending on what you'er doing, they may be a cleaner aproach and can be semantically useful
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im still trying to learn jquery =/ its annoying
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: Are you using the documentation websites? They are very useful
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: naw im guessing how things work, thats how i learn to program lol
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: well as long as you dont have a deadline
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its a fun project im doing for myself, at my job we have to turn in weekly schedules and i got bored of hand writing them so i created a web app, im working on V2 of the webapp which lets people login and archives their past schedules, the jquery question was for when i pull them back up so people can edit them(stupid cell phone dead zones make me look like i take forever to type =/)
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any reccommendations for an LED projector?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: are there any master of SQL queries on strings?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what do you need to know?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: (and which platform)
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i have a table that stores every query performed on my database.  it's trivial to count the number of times a certain object simply appears in the queries.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but i've been asked to count the number of times an object appears after the select clause, but before the where clause, and count the number of times an object appears after the where clause.  this is in Db2
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: 9.7
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so given a query performed select a, b, c, d where a, f, g, they want a count of each object's usage.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it's not so trivial, but possible to simply capture the whole query and maybe manipulate it in excel.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but i'd prefer to do i in SQl alone.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so you have the whole query stored as a single string?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: and te strings are of variable length, so i can't really use len
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: err not len, but whatever the locater function is
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could you not use regular expressions?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mysql has its own count function
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i wouldn't know how to use regex in sql actually.  and i don't know if regex works in db2 9.7
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: does db2 allow subselects in the select clause? you probably need to parse the code manually
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but if regex has an after but before type of statement, that would be perfect
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i'm only familiar with oracle, but they support regular expressions, and you can use them in pl/sql so it can be quite complicated
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/db2luw/v9r7/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.db2.luw.xml.doc%2Fdoc%2Fxqrregexp.html
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: suggests you can use regexp in db2
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it would appear the correct tool for the job if you didn't want to extract out and use an external program/code to process it
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but is that only for xml?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i suppose, if i really needed to, I could use excel, do a find on select and where, replacing with something like \select and \where, then do a text to colums.  at that point it is an excel problem.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but that's a large ass file to be manipulating (one month is 250 MB and i'm doing over 6 months).
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: are you looking for tables or columns?  If columns, it wouldn't be as simple as that -- need to consider * references, qualified column references (perhaps using a table alias and not table name), etc
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: the indiscriminate query looked for like %tablename.column%
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: are you guaranteed all queries are going to fully qualify everything?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: no, not all queries will have a where clause
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: am asking if all queries will follow the format of fully qualifying the table name for every column (and specifically with the table name not a table alias) .. e.g. SELECT A FROM B will never occur and SELECT X.A FROM B AS X will never occur -- you will only ever have SELECT B.A FROM B
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: actually, it's select scheema.table.column from schema.table every time I beleive.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you'll probably need to write a custom function (looks like UDF is what DB2 calls it, and doesn't necessarily need to be written in SQL) .. be careful to properly consider the character before schemaname and the character after columnname and probably can't assume "from" doesn't appear as the first four characters of the schema or last four characters of column
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: OK, out of my skill set and i can tell the people looking for this information that.  may even be out of the abilities of my team.  we are only allowed to do certain things.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Is there any reason why an sshd config would forget I want to use my key to log in and keep prompting me for a password instead?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: permissions
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Which might have been set where?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: .ssh dir, authorized_keys or selinux
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: chmod 700 .ssh, chmod 600 authorized_keys, chown user.group .ssh and authorized_keys
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: The first two are readable and owned correctly.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: They have 744 and 644 but that shouldn't really be an issue.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try /sbin/restorecon -r /root/.ssh
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it's root 
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those *44 can cause problems IIRC
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Those files should only be readable by user.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: OK, I set them back to 700/600 and it's fine now.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Weird. Why would more relaxed permissions cause a problem?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Could it indicate someone might be trying to auth using your key?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyway, thanks for the help Trachx and Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You don't want someone else to be able to read your key, that would be bad security.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is public key, so doesn't matter whether someone has access to it or not
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I agree with Ranrr, but why would it switch me back down to password authentication?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: It's not like that would be more secure...
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's the fallback.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: .ssh dir can contain more sensitive information, like known_hosts or even private key
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: So it should be enough indication that something elsewhere is wrong, please check your settings?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably you have executed chmod -R ugo+r /home/user or so
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Trachx, maybe, but that wasn't my question. Ranrr answered it. It's still a little strange though.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for completeness, the sshd_config file has a StrictModes directive, which defaults to yes. If it is defaulted or expressly set to yes, then sshd will reject using files/directories with "compromised" permissions set. So it's acting as if your ~/.ssh doesn't exist, in which case it falls back to password
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that would be more secure than using a possibly-planted key
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: In mushclient, is there a way to have a variable hold another variable as it's value?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: canon sucks
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ih
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: kodak is in Tennessee.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i have unsubscribed from their marketing emails several times and still get them, and I contacted them directly, and got a response, saying the messages would stop a month ago.. and i have received 13 since then
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: canon sucks. /rant
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i have a question
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: go go
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i tried getting the winklewinkle spellup plugin and i tried importing it but i got some messages
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [WARNING] C:\Program Files (x86)\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Line    5: Tag not used: <plugin> (muclient)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [WARNING] C:\Program Files (x86)\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Line  299: Tag not used: <script> (muclient)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you dont "import" them ... you go file, plugins, add (and add 1-3 files depending what you are doing)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: thank you :D
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: thank you again for the help :D
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: anytime.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i have another question
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: nvm i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone know about quality of TP-link wireless routers?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Haven't used their routers, but their switches and wifi stuff is good (for the price).
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok for home use, but I wouldn't want to use it for business.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i have a question
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: the answer is 42
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: nice to know...do you know what would be even nicer? actual question
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i download bast and realized that i didnt like it so i took it off but i am still getting information that shows up that i dont want
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: example {invmon}3,1090298221,-1,-1 you sell a demon faced talisman to bribeable officer
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: how do i make it to where the {invmon}3,1090298221,-1,-1 goes away?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amalcon Tech: try 'help tags'
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type invmon
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: invmon isn't listen in tags though. :P
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: invmon worked...i think
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: thank you for the help
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: anyone run windows memory diagnostic in the past? looking for an estimated runtime for 256GB of RAM using the extended tests with cache diabled
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shit tons
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: too much
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: best i've seen so far is 8 hours but that was a few years ago
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: regardless of memory diagnostic tool, you're looking at days
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i have ~2.5 days of downtime approved .. that enough?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: couldn't guarantee it
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Not for sure
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't you split it somehow?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I'd say 4 days should be enough in 90% of cases, but still couldn't guarantee it to make it.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shove some pre-tested ram in as a stopgap and test it in your own time?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or test half of it at a time
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at Tigernuts.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: how much for the standard tests you think?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what sort of ram is it?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: gimme a sec.. will check the specs
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: looks like a 8x8x4GB sticks at 1.33GHz
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Plugin: Sharptracker205g (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Immediate execution
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:3: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'mobgoldtotal' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:3: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: You are taxed 137 gold coins by your clan.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Plugin: Sharptracker205g (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Immediate execution
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:5: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'mobgoldtotal' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:5: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: what do those runtime errors mean?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: next time, use pastebin.com and post the link to it
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Don't spam, pastebin or note it next time
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: means you're trying to do math on a variable (mobgoldtotal) that does not exist.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Unless something recently broke sharptracker, probably just need to reinstall.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i just had a doh! moment
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i think i just need to do the command to start it
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: back to your testing, there is no "how long does it take" with memory tests. It  might churn through 256Gb in 2 days, but unless there's a permanent fault, it might not show. You really need to test over multiple passes to track down random/intermittent faults
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd suggest hoiking out half the sticks and testing them in a test rig, need two much shorter sections of down time that way
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Even less w/ multiple rigs
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: thanks .. i'm already approved to have it down the whole and won't have the resources to migrate the hardware physically (i don't have access myself), so when it doesn't finish will put in another request for that :/
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: whole weekend*
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: MS has a sense of humour: "This might take several minutes"
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: they are right in that at least
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ms can make one sick joke from time to time: "installing updates... 300 of 912312 do not turn off the computer". you never know when it does that and sometimes it can be the wrongest moment.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: or when they decide to reboot the computer for you if you leave if for a little while
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah i always choose postpone for 2hrs and 10minutes later... reboot??
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: they hid the "don't reboot after updates" option in group policy
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: has anybody used GCCG before?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldarik Tech: Hey the gmcp map isnt upp even when I enable or reinstall it please help
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Have you tried re-launching mush?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldarik Tech: yes indeed 
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: how are mud maps created and how are room descriptions written
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: most are initially made with pen and paper
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: heyo, anyone have any ideas how to make a mudside alias with multiple commands?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: use ;
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: seperate then with ; I think
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: type alias myalis command1;;command2;;command3 etc
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: if you're using mushclient you'll need two semicolons not just 1
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: that sends the second comand to the mud instead of it actually sticking in the alias.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: i'm just using the flash client on the aard site at the moment. and i'm trying to set up an alias exactly like the one listed in help semicolon
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i always use this as a good example (its useful) alias doors open north;open south;open east;open west;open up;open down
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: for me that just sets up doors to open north then executes the other commands as if i typed them.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thats how alias work
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: isn't that what you wanted?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: if i type alias doors open north
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: no i think he means while setting up the alias it does that
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Rauche, did you read what I wrote about using ;;?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: yes. it didnt change anything unfortunately.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: do ~
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: before the semicolon
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: and what ghargan said is accurate.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: nope that didnt work either :(
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: try typing ";alias doors open north;open south;open east;open west;open up;open down"
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: samething unfortunately.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: you need to escape the semicolon how to do that depends on your client
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ElFeneri nods at StarsOscar.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: he uses the flash client on the aardwolf site
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: i tried setting it up in mush, blowtorch, and on the aard flash client.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: all with the same result.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: it works for me with much anyway
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in mush is easy. You use ;;
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: mush*
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: in mush you just double the semicilons
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: hey if you were to make a map based arbitrarily on three bits of data how could you make a room
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on what kind of data.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: unless you are asking a trick question, then the answer is you draw it.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: i'm interested in taking raw bits of data from a binary file and making a map out of it
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: and for some reason I keep thinking you only need 3 bits
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: so for example 101 is a map of sweeden?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: no i mean 3 bits per room
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what kind of map are you trying to draw?  Like a mud map or something graphical?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: mud map
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: becuse you could use symmetry
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: symmetry?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: yeah like if one bit says east, you would make it go west too
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: areas aren't guarnateed to be laid out on a purely euclidean scale, nor are connections guaranteed to be adjacent.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: three bits to describe a room might be sort of ok.  you will need more to connect them together. and using 8 bits probably won't make the storage cost go very high.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you trying to make your own mud, or are you trying to handle, say, Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: I'm trying to make a map of an .exe file
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: umm, why?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: i don't really know
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: map of an exe file? When you say map, what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: like a 2 dimensional grid of an exe file
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: so i could make comparisons
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: a graphical diff
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: as in opening it in a hex editor?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: yeah like a graphical hex editor
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so if you had to pick between c++, c#.net, and java which class would you take?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: there are good tools for diffing files
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: have you already taken other programming classes?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: the best hex editor I ran across is 010 Editor.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: diffing on binary pretty much comes down to 'yes these are the same' vs 'no these are different'.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have taken C and matlab and know some html, css and sql
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: it's fairly cheap and worth it if you need a good hex editor
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if it makes a difference my degree is in it security
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Vakieh, depend on what you use when you diff the files.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: "diff" in linux will not give you any further information
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for an arbitrary binary/exe file, that's all you can get no matter what you use to diff...
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: diff in linux is not designed to be used on binary files... but even if you are diffing with a hex tool, the info is still going to be next to useless
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use other tools to deconstruct and compare, but that's not diffing
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: depends on the binary, alot.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example you can open up 2 .jpg files next to each other and visually "diff"
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Yes it does.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not for the problem as given, no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I always go ranger
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: not sure what the problem is, but when it comes to comparing binaries, you can learn alot from them by diffing them. Again, depending on the binary you diff.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you should do some reading on Babbage. He made an entire machine for diffing things
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: well I figured it out on my own I think i don't want to give it away
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: if I talked further it would ruin the surprise
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: thanks for feedback though
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: did you know a good way of reading with control of speed is to slow down the first two words every sentence
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: is there a way to insert a pause into custom exits? I've noticed a few rooms that don't let you leave immediately, while a guard checks your papers etc. which throws off mapper goto.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, mapper help exits says how
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: that's for constructing your exit. I mean a permanent, wait 2 seconds before continuing to the next room everytime you leave this room
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is for that
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: oh... k i'll read harder =)
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: cexit enter exit;;wait(2);;scan
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: mapper cexit*
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: yea i see it now... sorry for being dense
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You might have to block the regular exit (by right-clicking on the gmcp map, and setting the level lock high).  Not sure, though.  Not sure if a cexit or a regular exit takes priority (or if it's even determined which does)
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cexit always takes priority
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you use a cexit for opening doors
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I suppose so.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the code actually says an exit of a command more than 1 character long takes priority ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use stylebot for chrome to get sites how i look, and for some reason on one website when i hover over an image i changed through the code it like goes up, but i want it to stay still any ideas how i can fix it?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: this is what im talking about: http://i39.tinypic.com/2rr7a6q.png
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: how do i make pages make sound in mush?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: try sticking your foot in it and wiggling your toes :P
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game, config, output, check enable beeps
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: If I have an alias with variables macro'd, how can I use the for a color code in that alias?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Er, variables are expanded, not macroed.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: use @@
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: hmmm, when someone pages me it doesnt show on the main screen, is that why it's not beeping?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: if so, how do i get pages to show on the main screen
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Sweet, it worked, thanks. :D
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: no one knows?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: In Mush, is there a way for an alias to assign a value into a variable?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: SetVariable, I think.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: I think so, instead of outputting to world, choose variable
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: I lied listen to them
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Awesome, thanks. :d
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Hm, what do I gotta do to use SetVariable?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: send to execute, I guess?  Send to script?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: isnt it send to variable?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: dunno, I don't bother opening Mush anymore.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: what do you use?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cmud
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: anygood?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just as good as Mush, but not being updated.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're using a function in a trigger, you need to send to script
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i prefer cmud over mush
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: well, unless you're using the scripting prefix and sending to execute
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: send to script basically means "treat the stuff I'm writing as lua code (or whatever your current scripting language is set to"
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Ah, okay. Thanks. Still learning this. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Hm, send to variable seems to work out nicely. Set up an alias to set that variable. Thanks for all the tips guys. :D
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: damn cat jumped on the keyboard and now none of my macro commands work, how do i get them to work again? Mushclient..
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, first you skin the cat (I'll leave it to you to decide how, as there's more than one way).
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: and my macro issue?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: nm, got it.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean the issue you asked about on tech
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Any idea why when connecting my xbox 360 to my computer monitor via hdmi cable I can switch to the input to the xbox and it flashes the xbox screen for a second and then reverts back to the computer input?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: what happens if you unplug the input from your computer?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe the XBOX requires HDCP and your monitor does not support it?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: meh i dunno, its a like 2 years old high end hp monitor
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: and i'd think it wouldn't even flash the actual xbox screen if it wasn't supported at all
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Probably not. Just a guess :D
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does your monitor have some sort of feature that connects different ports to each other?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I've a TV that has RIZALink or somesuch, when I turn it on it starts messing with inputs automatically.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: no not that i have ever seen / am seeing now.  Just standard 2 hdmi inputs, dvi input, etc
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: fyi ive tried different cables, both hdmi ports, tested on different tvs (works just fine)
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: on mine, i have to put the cable in the hdmi/dvi vs just the hdmi for it to work.  my ps3 goes in the regulat hdmi
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: you have to use an hdmi to dvi cable?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: i dont recall. my son set it up
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: how do i stop the autohunt trick after i am done using it?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll stop when it gets to the right one
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: oh so technically i am supposed to use it for cp mobs then?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's really what it's useful for...
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what the hunt trick is...
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: CPs and GQs, anyway.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: oh lol ok
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autohunt is different than autohunttrick
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i have them both i just thought the autohunttrick was used to find out how many of the same mob there were in the area you were in
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's meant to find out which is the right mob...like "help hunt trick"
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It doesn't matter how many of a particular mob is in an area, really.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: how do i make winkle winkle scripts to works with a map of a new area?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what do you mean? those scripts use mapper, so just map area and they should work
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: seems like they dont recognize one of the areas(brightsea) yet, and it shows in red color on my S&D list
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: i went to an area and mapped it a bit, but nothing changed
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: it doesnt recognize an area when i try to xcp a mob there
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you mapped those room in red? (I assume it is room campaign)
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 'a bit' may be not enough, basically S&D searches through mapper database for rooms with given names
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: nope. but i had other areas unmapped aswell, still xcp was taking  me to an area entrance at least
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Purge Port and explore the whole area. reinstall the plugins and see what happens.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: i this case it doesnt even find an area entrance
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: purge port?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The old area.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: how do i do it?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type mapper help utils and read.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: reinstalling helped, thank you
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: Hey. I want to defined composed variables. something along the lines word(evel). I want evel to evaluate first to 70 so I then get word70 's value. Is it possible through a simple alias in mushclient? Or I need to go read some scripting FAQs for that?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: I meant [at]sword([at]level) to evaluate to [at]sword70 and then again to whatever value variable sword70 has.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: nevermind.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: if two entities predict something to happen where one predicts 0.5 chance and other predicts 0.8 chance is it possible to add these chances together so i have one?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: yes, dependant on how their probabilities are connected.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: median, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: it's (1 - a) * b + a isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or no, dependant on how they are observing the system
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: So with mapper aliases.. is there a way, like if I have it set up to call a port_recall alias, that I can set up my alias to actually be port_*, and it matches the recall part?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: no duckbat.  What's the specific info
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in mush how do i use a variable name in send to world?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: start with @ and check the expand variable box
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so im trying to do an if fuction send to script in mush, i have if drink.continer==drink.first then print("success") else print("fail") ... even though the 2 numbers match its still printing out fail, ideas?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: here is the actual code: http://pastebin.com/Ln8cwwmX
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: So there's a room in aylor that my mapper says has a down exit, but when i go there, there isn't a down exit. mapper unmapped area also lists it.. What can I do?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Navi Which room?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: mapper goto 32571
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Right click on the room in the mapper, delete room, walk back into the room and see what happens.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Okay, that fixed it, thanks. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hadar: the issue is with the fact that lua actually doesn't "type" its variables well...I suggest using tonumber() around any variables that are supposed to be numbers within an if statement...making the one line be "if tonumber(drink.container) == tonumber(drink.first) then" will work
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (more specifically, it doesn't type them at all when the variable is made)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: chrome html5/javascript app: cpu usage rises, mem usage drops. i stopped the app from running, it does nothing now, but it settled at 50%cpu and my computer struggles with typing this. what could be the problem?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: excuse me, do any of you know much about Mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie *typing clients* I do not think so.......
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: Im having a problem where I cant reach the top border line of my main text window in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Then resize your windows.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: wow it worked
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: been looking so long time for this :)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: thanks alot man
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do you know about the wiki?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction?tm=6
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: thanks gonna check it out!
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: How can I get the menu bar ack on bast's cp window?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Anyone know how to get the menu bar on the miniwin events in bast's plugin please?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Menu is the M in the upper left corner
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Right, but mine is gone
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reload the plugin.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I'll try that
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: click on the top left corner of the plugin window
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gonf: Did you get the eqdb plugin to work?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no, I haven't tried it recently
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Would there be any reason that my wireless connection always starts dropping around the same time each day? Whereas my wired one doesn't have problems? Perhaps neighbor's wireless use?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: could be due to increased noise from other networks, yes. Measure S/N ratio.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Ok enabling and disabling has completely broken my miniwin to where it's now just a compressed window vertically :p
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Events
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mev events reset should reset it
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Well I requested a campaign and it expanded vertically to accomodate those targets but not width wise
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Speak of the Devil and there he is!
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: (Also thank you for answering questions on this all of you :)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: bast any way to give miniwindows a priority on load which are front/back etc?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should save that, so set them up the way you like and it should remember
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: odd. maybe its because mush didn't close properly
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He has it setup by priority from 1-10 I think it is where 1 is the highest and 10 is the lowest.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Bast, I could've sworn that when installing your spellup plugin, it said some extra stuff besides the fact that it's on. Would this be a cause for me to reinstall it?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not if you run the aardwolf mushclient, it uses Fiendish's layout plugin, which should remember (I think)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Any other suggestions on how to restore my events to viewable?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kaltas: if it was in orange, then yes, is it working?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reload Vexthorne
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: There was no orange, which put me off. As far as working, lemme see if manually spelling up does stuff.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or it is hiding behind another plugin.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Do you mean reinstall or close mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "mev events reset", then "mev events front", then "mev events show"
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: It's not working, unless mental barrier, underwater breathing, heighten, chameleon and adrenaline control aren't supposed to be working.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh....It is hiding
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: kaltas: type "bsp check" and look through there to see if there is a problem
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: those commands work with all my windows
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: WEll, my events was showing but unreadable, now it's just completely gone after those 3
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vex: type "mev info" does it say Shown: true, Hidden: false?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: From what I'm reading, everything is correct.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kaltas: type "tags". Is global on (at the bottom)? and  is spellups on?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I get an invalid command and it shows basic plugin information with that
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Spellups is yes, and Global is on.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vex: oops should be "mev events info"
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kaltas: if you type bsp, does it list those spells?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Shown is true, hidden is false, width is 6 which is part of it I'm sure
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Doesn't list any spells right now.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kaltas: did you add them to the list to be autospelled?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vex, wait until you request a quest, it should change at that point
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Alright I'll see then, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: I haven't added anything, because usually it auto does everything for me.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you do "bsp sadd all"?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: This is a first, so I suppose I must add everything manually.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Ahh, no I didn't. Again, it usually did it itself. That takes care of that problem.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it never does that by itself, you have to tell it what spells to add, even as you level up
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Weird. Well, it's all good for now. I know the command, so it won't be a problem anymore.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Thanks, Bast.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: I absolutely love this plugin even more. Like, the fact that as soon as I manually add a spell to the list it gets casted. Genius.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it is awesome
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just make sure to put right version of spells in etc. not just auto add everythng in existence
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Yeah, new quest doesn't restore the miniwin events window either, sorry :(
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: I have only added spells that buff me.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: remove its state file and reinstall it
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: vex: you I suggest you do what hisazul said
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I don't see the state file in the plugins folder, just xml and lua files?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is in the worlds/plugins/state directory, search for a file with the words "miniwin_events" in it
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: i'm having difficulty adding rings to basts eq sets plugin. It keeps saying not a valid wearloc regardless of what i put for the location
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you putting rfinger, lfinger?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: yea, same thing happens with necks too =(
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have the latest version: r2089?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: oh sorry it also says 'cannot wear this item at the wear location finger'
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: bleh no, 2082
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: is there a way to upgrade without losing my current databases / settings?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: release note for 2089: eqSets - can now add ear, wrist, finger, and neck items
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: will i have to re-input my existing sets? =(
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Is there a benefit to using a client mapper as opposed to just using the ones aardwolf give?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: mapper will find shortest path between rooms.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that's the main thing.  Can also tell you all exits that you haven't been through yet (and how to get to them), to help you explore unexplored rooms
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: can search for room names, too
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Thank you all. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: anyone there with safari? pls help me. 2 minutes
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: http://noodid.ee/another_eartraining/eartraining.html
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: slide the tempo down to 200 and click play. see what happens
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: 2-3 mins
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Any easy way to tell what is causing this: Trigger function "set_show" not found or had a previous error. when I request a campaign?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should show the plugin name in the error, reload that plugin
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: the error is just that line that I'm getting, dunno then thanks anyhow though :)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the original error should show it, so look back in your scrollback
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it's miniwin_events, so "plugins reload miniwin_events" will reload it
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Alright, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordRain Tech: anyone use mapper here?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordRain Tech: i'm having trouble with the mapper cexit command
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordRain Tech: can't seem to alias it
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: im trying to get the spellup plugin but cant seem to download it, i used to have winrar but it wants me to purchase it now, any other application i can use to open it with?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: might try 7zip
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ok thank you, downloading now
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: 7zip isnt working for me
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: yeah even after i have restarted my computer i still cant open the file with winrar or 7zip, im trynig to get http://gc.codehum.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: but it keeps saying its damaged or something
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: whats the shortcut for bringing up pluging screen?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ctrl/shift and?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: shift ctrl p
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: p
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: most of you know how software has become more bloated and un-wieldy, proportional to mainstream computing power - the faster computers get, the less programers have to worry about efficiency.....
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There are many different types of efficiency, the focus has merely shifted to devtime efficiency rather than CPUtime efficiency
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: at my wife's workplace, she has a nine-year old dell (that was likely no power machine in its day)... the institution has recently installed a battery of spy-ware, keyloggers, etc to keep tabs on emplyees... it now take the computer between 3 and five minutes to catch up with a typed paragraph in MS word.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That sounds like a hardware problem
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: sounds like a dell problem
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the point is... the software is writen for TODAYS hardware... any such software writen when the computer was new would likely operate within the confines of the average (or even less-than-average) computer's capability.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have a dell. old big core2. no normal graphic card would fit in. idiots
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the point being... does software drive hardware, or visa-vise?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Money drives both, your point is null
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: the sad fact of life
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya!?... well... well... you BRAIN is nul =P
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you you you...  poopie-head!
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sad? Only for those who lack it :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: I guess u like having trash like dell around
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: must be nice to live in ur world
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: oh and ea and activision and everything made out of crap in china. mkay. have fun there bud
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dell is what it is, and it does it well - I have yet to see better aftersales service (to business, their consumer market is pretty bad) from anyone but Dell
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, are you saying if we take away the money things will improve? Genius!
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: way to put words where none were placed.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: genious.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: or genius 
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So make an argument, instead of whining like a petulant child?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: why? so u can whine that living in a bubble world reliant on someone else is a solution? lol. I think thats as productive as shooting myself in the foot or watching paint dry.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do you hate dell or something?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you're not making much sense
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Money is representative of work, and the debt incurred in undertaking that work. It is there to facilitate our progression from a barter society. If you make paint, and you want food, but the food-making guy wants music, and the musician wants paint, guess how that happens? Money.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm going back to an abacus (likely made in china)
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Money also serves as a scapegoat for those who do not understand how the world works.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: people who claim they "understand" how the world works tend to just be confused and egotistical. Just personal observation.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: interesting tech conversation
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yep.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: its all dells fault
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so does anyone have a samsung s4 and know whether it's worth the effort to install custom roms and stuff?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have an S4, installed a custom to get rid of some of the Samsung apps I didn't need, and remove the 'you are damaging your ears' warning
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also to swap out the bottom row of apps, but I hear those being locked is an AU specific thing
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can't you just download a different launcher/music player, and root it to remove apps?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, you mean a full on custom Android OS? Nah, didn't do that, just the Samsung overlay
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: some things like say google playbooks like to "restore" things
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The volume warning needs root access though, as it's an Android thing, not an app thing
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh is it?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's not bothered me much anyway, i don't exceed the limit :p
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's probably saved me a couple of times from blasting my ears too
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Music I don't, but I listen to lectures and such that are always stupidly quiet
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And of course it warns based on volume %, not actual volume
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ya i see ur point now.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: does that adaptsound thing work?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or smart volume or whatever they call it
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: netflix in old days did that often
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It does, but it triggers the warning :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: had to jack up volume to the roof to get proper sound level
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: you know what could be cool - if someone would make a mush plugin that turns every market item to a hyperlink. to id it.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: actually probably not that hard
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could rip off the url plugin and just edit it to lbid the ###
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: me? im good at scripting memory leaks
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: but where is the url plugin anyway?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: got it..
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: too difficult for me
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does anyone know if i can use something like ODBC through wine (running cmud on wine, and on windows i use ODBC to connet to my DB)
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I believe you can use Windows ODBC drivers....
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: There appears to be a winehq wiki article on the subject.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Otherwise, Wine uses Linux's unixodbc natively.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was trying to get lua stuff working and was just going to re-write my scripts, but i could not even get those working =/
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: does anyone know how to split the output window in mush client?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what do you mean by split? And what output window?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: so you can see older output without having to scroll each time you enter a command
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: most of the plugins actually use seperate output windows
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: the main output window
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I don't think you can. At least not without coding a lot.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: i assume you are not running the aard version of mushclient
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: i am
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: then typing while you scroll up shouldn't be an issue
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: until you hit enter/return of course
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but he said he doesnt want to scroll up
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: i know zmud does it.. its the only thing i miss from that client
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: what kind of output don't you want to have to keep looking for? bast has some really nice plugins for quest and cp's and gq's
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: all that goes in a nice little tabbed window you can dump anywhere
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: just trying to train skills. lol
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: lvl 1 is really the only time it bothers m
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: well the low tech solution is copy paste to notepad or some clone
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: of notepad
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any tech-heads about?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Mebbe
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i want to know why Vista tries to scare people off against using wireless networks that are not broadcasting the SSID
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: sorry, i stopped reading after "Vista" ... very little about that operating system makes sense... less works
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Doesn't Vista do that for everything you try to do though?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'd say whatever gripes it has about non-broadcasting SSID's... ignore... it's best not to have your router broadcasting SSID< it's harder to hack that way
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: According to a quick technote, if you have the SSID hidden and you have Vista set to automatically connect, Vista actually broadcasts the SSID even when it's not in range in an attempt to connect.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that was what i understood, xantcha
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shouldn't be an issue, it's never not in range of it
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: They (Microsoft) recommends that if you're connecting to a non-broadcast SSID, you should only manually connect.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: hidding your SSID makes it no harder to hack, if i use BT5 even hidden show up, but i digress and its offtopic
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: That's the only downfall M$ has published that I'm aware of.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not there to be unhackable, it's just to stop local monkies trying to access it
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've got access control switched on too, which should help
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo rapidly nods twice at Tigernuts, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Personally, I wouldn't sweat their warnings. If somebody's sniffing, they're sniffing.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perfect world i'd be wired, not wireless
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Only secure computer is one that's disconnected from all wires (including power) and buried in solid concrete.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: don't forget to lose the coordinates that locate the comp in the concrete or determined schmucks like myself will dig it up and still hack it!
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite sends Protogynus Robbo across the dance floor.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Why not incineration.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Well, that's effective too, but that also means I'll never be able to access the data either.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amalcon Tech: That does make it secure, but is it really still a computer?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Realistically though, anybody sniffing my wifi is gonna get MUD traffic and porn, not much value there.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Protogynus Robbo.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tend to use https anywhere
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and tor for anything remotely dodgy
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that all depends on your memberships... some of those monthly charges are expensive... if I can leech that off for free....
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'll be outside your window this evening 
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Does any one know of an android app that I can use as a database for sorting equipment?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: got a tablet question
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: anyone know rooting and roming well?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: new router,switch, and i cant seem to ping aardmud.org  or connect from pc
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: new router,switch, and i cant seem to ping aardmud.org  or connect from pc
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: using opendns updater if it resolves  but cant connect how is it getting dropped at router qq
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: no idea, try googling it, maybe somebody had same issue before
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: can u ping 8.8.8.8
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: rebooting sec
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if yes -> nslookup; server 8.8.8.8; google.com
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if that gives you some IPs for google, then issue is dns settings on either your machine, or router
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: im also having problems installing a plugin, the spellup2 plugin, it just says its damaged etc
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: thats the thing its fine for other websites, websites i can access
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: can u ping 66.228.127.34 - if so, then it's an issue specific to resolving aardmud.org -> DNS
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: can access aardwolf.com. tech did dns flush too browser cleaned of cache and ping yes on 8.8.8.8
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't know of the spellup2 plugin (are you sure it's for aard, or do you mean winkle_spellup_2?)...is it in the worlds\plugins folder, and are you using file -> plugins to try to add it?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ping failed on 66.228.127.34
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: does your router have settings for blacklists?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: or your firewall? checked there?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: otherwise, aard ihas blacklisted you :\
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: yes it's the winkle_spellup_2 plugin, i begin the download and i get this error......C:DOCUME~1\marc\LOCALS~1\Temp\WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2-1.xml......The archive is either in unknown format or damaged
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how are you downloading?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: winrar
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a text file
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: did a tracert and it drops in the dal datacenter for me
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: sorry im trying to open with winrar
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: downloading from here http://gc.codehum.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well of course winrar would say that...it's not an archive
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ahh im not good with things like this, how do i do it?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just download the file, don't try to open it in anything
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just save, not open
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: it asks me to open it with something though, cant stop it asking :S
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the link, save as
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ok, then save it in downloads folder then sort out the plugin from there, moving it to worlds etc
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: hum, i must be doing something drasticly wrong here, it saved as a web page
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's  fine
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's because xml is generally "spoken" by web browsers
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ahh ok, so where do i go from here please Abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, you don't want to open it, just move the file...all of the plugins in there will probably look like web pages
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: move it to MUSHclient\worlds\plugins
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is what step 1 of INSTALL: says on that download page
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: i never had this issue with my computer at home, its just this one at work
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ive moved it to the folder required, going to relog
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to relog
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just need to add
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ahh yes
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: awww thanks Abelinc, your a star, its been frustrating me for a couple of days now  :)
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other way to do it...configure/add plugins at home, bring the whole MUSHclient folder set up the way you like it to the work computer on a thumb drive (dropbox, etc)
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: yeah the thought did cross my mind, with me having a different OS at home would that make a difference to how it downloads?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the downloading is really browser config
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: makes sense now, here at work they use firefox
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Hi does any one know that website for viewing auction stats of average prices of items please?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gaardian.com
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Thank you Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, anyone actually installed the JDK on Windows 8? I used the setup.exe, but when I open up cmd and try and use java and javac, they aren't registered as commands? Anyone know offhand where the default install dir is, so I can add it to my path?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Got it solved, but since when do you need to explicitly add a program file to your path for it to be CLI-accessible?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: any ideas why bast planes mob lookup isnt finding any mobs?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you typing, and what's it saying?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: plookup find derg
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: shows no result
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: for any mob i try
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: take out the find
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: try
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: just plookup derg
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: still nothing
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: shows none ..as result
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: reinstall, when i type plookup derg it shows me two, pool 4 and 6
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: reinstall, when i type plookup derg it shows me two, pool 4 and 5
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: hmm, still nothing
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: reinstalled it and still nothing
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Iceman: if you are using the latest version, type "plookup mreset" then it should reseed the planes mobs database
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: what plugin is that?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the planesmobs plugin
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: where can I find that :)?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: my website, finger me
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: cool ty!
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: I play on multiple computers and i'd like to transfer my plugin settings, most specifically basts eqsets from one to the other two, I tried copying the plugin folder but that doesn't seem to contain the saved information for all my sets... any thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try copying the logs folder in the directory....I dont use it, but I assume it is a database in that folder.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: kk i'll try that thank you
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's in teh mushclient.exe directory.  Make sure Mush is closed when you copy...and Bast is around he probs knows better :)
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: yea i just don't like to bug him too much , i figure he gets pestered enough =)
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vishos: all the data for my plugins is stored in the state or in the logs directory in *.db files
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the state files are xml and there are *.db files in the logs directory
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: so if i wanted to duplicate the current state of eqsets and spellup i could just copy the entire folder.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, just copy the entire MUSHclient directory and that should get everything
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: well i didn't want to copy the entire directory because the screen resolutions on the compuers i play on are all different, last time i did that some of the windows were off the screen to the point i couldn't drag them =(
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: even after resetting the plugin in question
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: where are the state files located? i see the .db ones
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the state files are *.xml in the worlds/plugins/state directory
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: got it thank you very much!
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you just want, you can sync the eq.db and stats.db files in the logs directory, the state files basically keep window positions anyway, but there may be one or two that keep more
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: it seems to have done what i wanted by just copying the logs directory so far
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Heh, the TimeWarnerCable rep suggested that I upgrade to business class service instead of calling tech support so much on their poor home-level service
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: TWC is horrible.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyone around here playing castlevania lords of shadows? the one for pc? or to be more specific making trainer/etc for it
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Does anyone know which plugin controls the tips that come up with a new mush install? I have a VI friend that needs to make that window go away.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I seem to remember there being a little checkbox or somesuch towards the bottom of said window that turns it off.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: there is, but it's not accessible from the keyboard
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: not that I've found, anyway. I can't remember now how I finally got rid of it
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any glassfish/oracle app server users here?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or failing that, anyone who uses Dolphin emu
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe aard_new_connection.xml
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Success! Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, Faylen, I'm pretty sure that when that box is set to come up, the main MUD output window has text describing how to get rid of it (which screen readers should read)
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: As far as I know it just says to right click it. heh, which for VI players don't work too well. But removing that plugin did the job
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: doesn't, rather. Wow english
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I open MUSHclient, my main MUD output has: Screen reader users: To bypass the welcome screen and connect to the game, type "connect to aardwolf" without the quotation marks and then press enter.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, don't works just as well in that case, if you wanted to claim common usage.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's just going to close the window and continue onwards, he was asking how to effect the don't show this again aspect.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hans: no, typing that is the same as checking "don't show"
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he put that command there specifically because of the issue where VI players can't do a checkbox
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: any one know of an app that I can use as a database to store info of equipment stats?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why he put it into the main output to be read rather than into the miniwin itself
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google docs
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for what platform?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are plugins thta handle that already made for MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Android 
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then google docs
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a spreadsheet
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grumphling Tech: or you can look most things up on duckbat.com
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Thanks Abelinc , I'll check it out
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grumphling Tech: among others
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't look up your current gear
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because your current gear shouldn't be on duckbat...if it is, you're doin' it wrong
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the raw/stock version of it will be on duckbat, you shouldn't be wearing raw gear
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: one other question. If I give someone my map database, will that include all of my portal settings, or are those in a separate db?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so to compare your 41 set to your 71 set, you'd want something of your own, not duckbat or other stock repository
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll include everything for the mapper, but not aliases which you may have made in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you have a "use a portal" alias, the mapper file will have a "call" to that alias, but the alias won't exist
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ok ty yall, I'll try google docs
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing to consider, faylen, is whether you use itemIDs or keywords
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I use ids, which is why I asked. I'll just have her clear all portals
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: it's the aardwolf.db file in the main mush directory, is that right?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Been several months since I tried to do all this, heh
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, whenever you forget, an easy way to remind is to go to aard's main website, click the screenshot, click download client...that page actually tells you where different stuff is stored
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since migrating it from an older to a newer download is the same as handing to a friend
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh, good point.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: invitem was part of a script but I forgot which one and how to fix it>
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Alright, I have another mush question, this one for the people good with plugins and such... So I have one plugin that contains a function that two other plugins need to use. Currently the other two plugins use execute to call the function, but that's creating problems. Is there a better way to do this?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I didn't write the plugins, just trying to debug issues
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: who wrote the plugins? and what are the "issues"?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: They're plugins that help with reading specific text. The mushreader plugin is the one that contains the needed function. The other two have hotkeys that read specific lines by calling that mushreader function via Execute... But, the problem is, if the line being read contains a semicolon, it gets snagged by the Execute call and results in random commands being sent to the mud
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: And the person who wrote the plugins isn't a player here or anyone I know how to get in touch with. No contact info, just a website where I got them
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: change the Execute to CallPlugin and just call the function directly from the plugin instead of going through the command interpreter
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: aha, perfect. I'll look that up to see how it works, I just needed a starting point. Thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: my map is stuck under my bar and i cant drag it down help!!
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Yay, that seems to have fixed a long standing very annoying issue. Thanks again, Bast
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Fun fact: Mush loaded none of the miniwins it usually loads. I don't know what to do and I'd rather not uninstall then reinstall if possible.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: restart?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Considering that, wanted to make sure I got all solutions first. Let me try that real quick.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Huh. Was there an update that caused the Health/Mana/Moves bar to convert the segements to full bars with the numbers associated with them, or another side effect of wonky computer antics?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: I don't mind it, but it's kinda a surprise.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: right-click on the bars.  You can change all those options
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, on the names of the bars
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: I don't actually know why it's doing it, though. Like I said, I don't mind it. It's different.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i suspect your config file or something was lost/corrupted somehow and all your settings are back to default
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: This is default? Huh. I thought the segemented bars were. This is interesting.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jheavren Tech: how do i get main window to be sizable again?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the frame for all of MUSHclient not in view?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jheavren Tech: i can't adjust the size
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jheavren Tech: so my plugin windows over lap the game text
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...is that the size of the entire MUSHclient window, or just the "main MUD output" part of that window...
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if the main MUSHclient window, can you see/put mouse on the top titlebar, or is the issue that it's offscreen?
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Transcript Tech: which websites help test regex matches quicky/ and for learning regex matches
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Transcript Tech: where can i find a tutorial on regex
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with mush if i have something that is set to send to script, how can i send something to the world from in that?
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Send("this gets sent to the mud")
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or SendNoEcho("this does as well")
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks thats what i thought but was not 100% sure
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Keep in mind that sending to the MUD won't give aliases a chance to match
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: for that you need Execute("xx")
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Am I the only one that postpones windows updates restarts 4 hours at a time for like 6 days?
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: no I postponed it for 2 weeks until it forcibly restarted 
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: same here, depending no the computer
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: They get pissed when I do that with my computer at work :P
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I have been snoozing AVG restart for last week or two
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: several times
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: how do i set up the autohunt plugin to open up doors if they are closed?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: i am using the winklewinkle S&D plugin for autohunt. How do i fix it so that it will automatically try to open up closed doors?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: has nothing to do with those plugins. it is the mapper path
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: is there a way i can fix it so that it will automatically try to open up closed doors when i use autohunt?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: it is kludgy, but you can go to the room preceding the room with the door and add a custom exit to that room that is move; open direction; move
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: it will be the "shorter" path because it will link that room to the room after the door and use that to go through the door
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: so basically depending on where the autohunter takes me i would have to find every possible way that i could come from to get to the door, fix the code and then see if that works?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the solution has nothing to do with autohunt or changing code. it is adding a custom exit to a room that does the action you want via command stacking
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: mapper help cexits
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: mapper help exits that is
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: MUSH needs you to add custom exits to open doors in the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Sorry, I dont use it, just curious
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vexthorne rapidly nods twice at Quadrapus, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you can do that if you can't pass through the door, quad
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: gotchya
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: where do i go to post runtime errors so i can try to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: someone explain this. File i want to copy is 4,589,824Kb, the pen drive has 5,529,747Kb free. It won't copy citing insufficient space. WTF?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: because its fat32
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: format it to something else
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got stuff on it
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: move it to your HD then... then back
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't, insufficient space
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: buy a bigger thumdrive
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: use zip and write the file in parts
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apparently there's a conversion tool that doesn't require any of this
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i blame MAC, if MAC didn't exist, they'd be formatted to NTFS out of the box
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: should always format to ntfs anyways
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: heh you should always format to ext4 lol
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, because windows XP supports ext4
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gave up copying in the end, stupid computers
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: you really cant move whats on the drive to your HD format it then move it all back?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, and it's now NTFS, but copying it basically crashed every running program on the computer and claimed was going to take 5 hours to complete, so gave up
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: is it usb 1.0 or something?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, 2
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just the average technological shittiness
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it's why I got a usb 3.0 drive for copying 1080p movies
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: usb3 is not supported by xp
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: should not use xp....
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't go there
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: whats the reason to anyways?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: reason to what?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: use xp...
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because all of my software works on it
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm leaving changing to a unix flavour until the last possible minute because of the huge amount of hassle it's going to cause
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it isn't the last minute yet
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i think you mean your leaving switching to *nix till the last possible minute because your scared of the freedom it will bring you.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: err no, it's having to replace all my software and relearn it
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: along with the "roll a dice to see if the hardware is supported"
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: no dice need to be rolled just post to lkml 
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: I'm sure BSD has similar lists
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: IRC is also a great help for that sort of thing.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's also a great place for catching rabides
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you should be glad that it's part of the plan and not just sticking windows 7 on it
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when you get to old age like me your mind because less flexible in regards to learning new stuff
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you then bitch and moan about everything and ask why it can't just work like it used to
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: wait you actually expect it to work?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: what's that?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it would be nice
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: xp running in a virtual machine should allow me to continue to use some of the more ancient stuff like zmud and paintshop pro
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some of my games might be an issue
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my tv card will basically be screwed
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if i can find an old copy of thunderbird, that'll do for email
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i could probably muddle through on openoffice, though it'll make me look gay
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: visio i guess i could run in a vm
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: better openoffice than openorifice i guess
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dvdflick will be an issue
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cisco vpn will be a major problem
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud runs just fine with w7
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: guitar hero will also be a major problem
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how is VM getting on on *nix, does it allow the use of native gfx and sfx hardware acceleration yet?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google is pain in the arse, btw
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud and *nix, dagnir, btw
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not interested in Microsoft OS
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: go for osx then. linux desktop sucks hard
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Heh
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: err no
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people who say otherwise have the stockholm syndrome
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unity is awesome, wtf is wrong with you?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I don't really like it. Kind of used to it, but not a fan.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why not? osx is *nix and has great hardware support. not to mention a ton of (working) applications
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: osx is nix, but you need to accept Apple up your back end
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I am not talking about OS X. I'm not going to splash out that kind of cash for a glorified Linux box.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's the price you pay for a working os
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not inviting Apple into my life
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Talk about Stockholm Syndrome... ;)
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I was objecting to Unity.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not inviting Apple into my life, and i'm inviting Microsoft to leave
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: be more pragmatic. you complain about the features you don't like, demand some you don't have and in the end reject the most optimal solution
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that comment is little more than shit-stirring
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm happy letting Google in, for Apple my main objection was always and still continues to be the cost.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you want a nix that has good hardware support and doesn't blow as a desktop you're only left with apple
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Define blow.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it doesn't need to have a good desktop, only needs to meet my needs
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you know, sucking a bag of dongs
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not hearing any arguments against Ubuntu's Unity desktop...
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: talking about terrible UX
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a few good ideas, terrible implementation
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't care if the UI looks like windows 98
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Terrible implementation? Details, please, I have had zero issues with it
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, the early versions locked out some features because someone forgot to include menus to access them
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't think "works with my existing hardware and has a decent vm capability" along with offering decent security is asking too much of an os
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, existing hardware
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Your argument is whining about earlier versions? Sounds legit
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, yeah, i know
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it still sucks tho
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can download Ubuntu and Unity for free and try it in a minute +/- your download speed
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't get me wrong - i'm running more linux machines than most people here, but linux desktop just sucks
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: <3 the server capabilities
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You keep making that argument without actually making an argument for that argument
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sucks is better than M$ and Apple raping you
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how is ms raping me?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe i, too, have the stockholm syndrome? :P
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you do, but then, you have nothing to hide, therefore you have nothing to fear
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I will admit that pre-Unity, every Linux desktop I tried lasted a couple of minutes before it was a glorified terminal launcher, but Unity is seriously awesome.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (or possibly you have no principles)
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Vakieh: I don't know how to get Super out of the way - I want to use it in my shortcuts, not launch the Lenses or whatever.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: And I set Super-PgUp / Super-PgDown as volume up/down before to imitate my laptop keyboard.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: for me, w7 (with a few modifications) has the best desktop UX so far
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But now and then those shortcuts needed to be reset.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i'd probably prefer gnome over xp shell nowdays
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hrm, never fiddled with that myself, but it sounds like the answer might be here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1607803
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm also used to being able to switch windows with Alt-Tab.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Sometimes I have to Tab twice - the first press calls up the switcher, then the second is to switch windows.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when M$ stop collecting user data and providing governments with backdoors to all your supposedly private data, I might consider them. When Apple stops doing likewise and starts paying some tax, I might consider them. In the meantime i'm voting with my $
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Sometimes I just want to Alt-Tab and continue typing in the window which I expect to be in.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I installed something to change that, now just have to work out what it was :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This sounds familiar http://askubuntu.com/questions/45821/simpler-alt-tab-in-unity
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Evidently you have bothered enough to work through some of it. I just plough on :P
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Whenever I get a new device or OS or w/e, I spend about 2 weeks applying percussive maintenance until it's the way I like it. Then occasionally get confused when people say 'but it does xyz instead?' :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Like when multiple people told me you couldn't change the lock window text on an S4...
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Managed to get one of them changed to 'Suck it, B...' and he believed I had hacked his phone
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they told me you couldn't run 80 column mode on a commodore 64 or get more than 16 colours....
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I thought a C64 was blackgreen monochrome... then again I have only seen one on Strongbad, so there's that.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: nope 16 bit colour
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Percussive maintenance, sounds nice :P
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Percsonalisation?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It opens the Task Manager or it gets the wrench again
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not 16 bit colour, 16 colours
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: how do I switch off spellcheck on Mush again?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: file>global preference> General Tab (at the bottom Spell Check)
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: does any one know how to delete multiple rows in office spread sheet? 
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: in Microsoft Excel?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Highlight and click delete
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: office suite for android
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: use CTRL and click
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: it looks the same as pc
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: use CTRL and click to highlight all of the rows
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: then right click and delete
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Thanks allot!! I need to free up rows
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: whats it called when you move your mouse to some button and a text appears in a bubble?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: tooltip, iirc
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: a tooltip?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: does anyone have working plugin what is on this page? http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9681
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can just type scan
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what clients do people tend to use?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type clients
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orrus Tech: is somethng up with server. took me like five times to connect
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: not that I notice
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it might have been a bad relay between you/server
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orrus Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with an android, if i use titanium backup and i flash a new rom, when i go reinstall titanium backup all my stuff will still be there right?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Personally, I'd never trust a backup I cannot verify and have full control over, so I'd make another backup as well before the reinstall.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was thinking it stored them on the SD card, once my backup is done im going to verify that
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To be really sure, the rule of thumb is to have your data in 3 places... but it depends on how important the data is :D
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So maybe make a backup to a PC too
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: most of it is downloadable apks from the market, that im to lazy to download them all again
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic, well, then 2 backups should be enough
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sampolapelil Tech: how do you toggle to get tells on the main window, but nothing else
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: using aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sampolapelil Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i think by right clicking the communication window -> click "echo channels in main window" -> then custom
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that should do it for you
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sampolapelil Tech: yep that did it, thank!!!
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: THanks for the conversation about echo in mush, didn't realize I could change what showed up there :)
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Anyone tested chromecast? Is it any good?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: TECH SUPPORT!  Need help pls
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Sometimes, all of my USB devices stop working for like...15 seconds.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Then they act like they were just plugged in, and work, no big deal.  wtf?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: is your computer getting enough power?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: I assume it is not, becuase this is happening, and who the eff knows what else could cause it.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: like is it plugged directly into the socket or is it plugged into a dual adapter or somethign like that?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: It is plugged into a surge protector.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: However
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: It USED to be plugged directly into the wall, and it still did it.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ahk. Maybe the connection to the usb is short circutting
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: It could be any number of things
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Are your USB devices getting enough power? I.e., are you using multiple devices on an unpowered hub?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: So I'm getting more plugin errors how do I know what state file is connected to what plugin?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: anyone familiar with wix?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: in mushclient- do I need any additional mapper cexit commands for the illoria portal exit room (A Small Glade)? I can't seem to use the illoria portal without getting SW errors.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: mapper seems to not recognize that I need to go W from portal exit room before I continue the SW.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you set the right room as portal room?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: using xset mark? if so, yes.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: idk about xset, but portal works normal for me
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: nvm - figured it ou.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: out*
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: How do I determine what state files are related to which plugins?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: check the plugin ID
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: So I've got the S&D plugin, but xrt necro doesn't seem to work right, it keeps putting me in the south end of the graveyard instead.. Not hitting any walls, and already tried xset mark twice.. Anyone have any idea what might cause it?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: wrong cexits
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Only cexits are to open doors, and are working fine.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: xrt should take you to area somewhere in between you have cekit broken. otherwise xrt uses game runto which still takes you into area
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: cexit
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Only cexits are still to open doors and move through them.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: go to recall, type xrt necro and see what it does
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not where it goes, but the commands it sends
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Uses portal to giant's pet store, then runs there, opening all doors on the way.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: And ends in The Graveyard, south end.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: And it's opening every door at the exact right time, so it's not getting itself lost, and doesn't hit anywalls or closed doors anywhere on the path.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slinks Tech: Hi guys, hoping someone could help me out... I'm using Mushclient and I would like to set up a trigger that fires so I can stay connected to Aard while afk. Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KeetenEatr Delerious Tech: Use ticks to fire a look command?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slinks Tech: Yea, that would work, but I have no idea what the code would be :S
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: go to the mushclients timer page and create a new timer
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KeetenEatr Delerious Tech: No code. MUSHclient makes it super easy. Just copy the tick text and paste it into the trigger window's "input" field, the box below it is the output. super easy.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: go to game->configure->triggers, click add. in the top box, put "Your eyes glaze over."
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in the bottom box, just hit enter to put a blank line
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KeetenEatr Delerious Tech: ^ Even better.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (I think that's the idle message)
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slinks Tech: Thanks Leinei, Deleious and Cryos! :) Really appreciate the help. 
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: how do i make charge not brief in the combat log
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: damage 0?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: well kinda, but then my combat rounds show
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: So I've tried reinstalling xbroadcast_cp and miniwin events and miniwin cp and I'm still getting this message: Trigger function "set_show" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: That's after I request a campaign
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: well, i don't use em these days, but make sure you have all the required files to run his plugins. there are lua files that they require.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: it was working before so I assume I do, yeah
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: try to reinstall the CP broadcast file as well as the miniwin?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I don't use the cp window(just events) but I reinstalled both
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: and after reinstalling if you do cp check still trigger an error?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: It's only when I request one
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: not sure what's wrong sorry
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: np, thanks though
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I do get an error when attempting to reinstall xbroadcast kills I don't know if that's related
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: The Aard MUSHClient lua includes database support? Or do I need to do something to add it? e.g., are there requires needed in plugins? Any samples you can point to would be nice.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_sqlite3