T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Natasiom Tech: Hey everyone. Anyone here into RTS games? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Try the games channel? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er, gametalk channel? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Natasiom Tech: ooo did not know Thank you very much wizewolf T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne reaches down and scratches himself... Now he looks VERY happy. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne gallantly tips his hat. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Frostpaw grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong... T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: anyone know what to use to block redirects on wikias? i'm using chrome T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loosid Tech: try no-script T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loosid Tech: and ad-block T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: that's firefox, but i went for something on chrome, hopefully it'll work, thanks, if not, I'll just hop on firefox for these wikias T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: seems to be working, thanks :) T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loosid Tech: you're welcome, noscript is a little in your face, but it works well. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone know the MUSH mapper internals well? Fiendish is MIA :( T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends on what you're wanting. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech} Forestseer Tech: any people use screen-readers here / online atm? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: anyone kniw of an online company or any business thatvwill buy ca samsung galaxy s5 for parts thats in mint shape? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How can it be in mint shape if it doesn't work? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Who said it doesn't work? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then why would you buy it for parts? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Maybe your phone need some of those parts? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: IDK, buying the parts you need vs. an actual working replacement seems like it'd be cheaper somehow T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarTurkey Anaristos Tech: well, that's why companies buy used phones, for the spare parts. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: it has a bad esn means it cant be activated but is in mint condition T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: maybe its not broken, maybe its stolen, give a guy a break sheesh T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm not attacking anyone, chill out T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You could list it on ebay, just make it clear the ESN isn't clean.. There's a few phone sale sites that do that, too, like ebay but JUST for phones T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: its not stolen either. its on an unpaid account which I didnt knkw when I bought it T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i was joking you know T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bamboo looks at Dfury and goes "Heh." T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: so now its good for parts basically T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: yeah can get good miney on ebay 250$300 but it takes too long to sell and funds to clear etc etc T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: They're starting to put vending machines in Kroger locations that buy phones. I have no idea what the deal is like though. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: way underpriced T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's got a bad ESN, he's gonna get a crap price for it regardless. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: could also try craigs list for local face to face deals T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: rather than people bidding id rather someone offer me a fair price and use paypal to secure funds instead of waiting for the listing to finish etc T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: to sell direct basically T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: google phone repair shops in your area? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How'd you buy it? If you didn't know it had a bad ESN when you bought it, maybe you have a way of getting your money back. (ie. if you paid paypal, file a dispute) T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: paid cash in person seller ignoring my calls etc T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: if I sell on ebay I can make money on it as I got a good price for it even with bad esn T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Depending on the size of your town, try asking the police. Small town cops sometimes LOVE having something to do heh heh T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: so not going to make a big deal out iof it id just rather T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: not wait a week T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: its a civil dispute id habe to take them to court T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: which woukd take longer and get me less money than ebay could T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: This is why I never pay cash up front until I know for sure it works. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well, there's gazelle.com, and their ilk. They'll give you pennies on the dollar too, though. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I've always had nopret turned on. Man it's a new world with it off T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Old instructor of mine thought he was helping out a student who was selling his Kindle Fire. Kid said he needed $40, so he paid $40. Turns out, it was stolen and now my instructor can't log into the Amazon stores and whatnot. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: lesson learned there ive bought tons ofnsecond hand phones with no problem first time ever T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Still, always make sure it works. By the way, I've got a tree line I'd like to see you, see if you can see the forest for the trees. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: I live in a small town the shady type are few and far between we keave our doors unlocked etc. type of town T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: first time ive had issues buyinfmg a second hand cell phine T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Might want to start locking your door, too :P T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: make a police report about suspected stolen phone T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't think you want to deal with that phone T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: ive already confirmed its not stolen T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the seller told you it's not stolen? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and you believe them? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Probably found out when he tried to activate it T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: the carrier told me that its not reported stolen and on an unpaid account T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: stupid me called after buying rsther than before T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i see T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wait, let me get this straight. You live in a town so small that nobody locks your doors, but you don't think the local po-po could scare this guy into refunding? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: I didnt say nobody knocks T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A'ight, good luck. T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: pribly get shot for that T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: probably* T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenchi Tech: any cisco network professionals online? T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Heh, they wouldn't be very good if they were offline :D T3/r7/2014-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenchi Tech: true. :) T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Symarah Tech: Could anyone help me with making macros? T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Also links on that for writing triggers/aliases. T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Symarah Tech: Thank you T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Symarah Tech: Is there a way to make it stop entering the same thing over and over again once the macro key is hit? T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Never seen that behavior, I'd suspect it's the alias itself you are calling, or a problem with your keyboard.... T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: When I press a macro key, it fires the macro once. T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loosid Tech: Do you mean how to cancel commands once they've been imput? Because I'd like to know that as well T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Symarah Tech: Just as an example, I'm trying to make a macro for my portal....should I place the commands side by side or underneath each other (when editing the macro)? T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can't Loosid, they are sent to the MUD as soon you press it and the MUD queues them. The MUD has no way to cancel a command (though you can disconnect and reconnect in an emergency to clear ALL commands). It was explained to me that the commands are queued at such a low level, there really isn't a way to pull them out with the way it's designed.... T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Symarah, if you are sending to World, put each command on it's own line, press enter and do the next command. T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loosid Tech: Thanks Mendaloth, and I misspelled input there in my question. T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: what's the deal with winkle's hunt trick plugin in s&d? doesn't seem to work T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it's outdated T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: any easy way to fix it? T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: practice hunt T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes but not from me T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: I see. It works fine after practicing hunt? T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: the syntax in the script for unpracticed hunt has an incorrect word in it T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: it's not a difficult fix T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I don't remember exactly what I did, but I looked at what the game told me when I tried to hunt something without it practiced, then looked for something similar in the script, and changed it until it worked :p T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pseudocyesis Tech: left -> is T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: there ya go T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: looking in the xml file right now T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: You have no idea what you\'re doing\, but maybe .+ left T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: this one? T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: will see the next remort. I just practiced hunt before I got the chance to test it T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: The fix is to change: "doing\, but maybe .+ left .+\?" to "doing\, but maybe .+ is .+\?" (left becomes is) T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: thank you! T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loosid Tech: This mech keyboard is awesome! The bump actuation makes typing way smoother and faster T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: how do you remove a room number in the mapper T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meru Tech: what's the command to get the different commands in sharptracker, pls? T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: st_help T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meru Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: ywm8 T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: anyone here good at twinkles spellup plugin? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: no, but I like the rename. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Question for anybody using cmud. At the far right of the command line, I used to see how long I'd been playing and there was also a little box that I could click to collapse the split screen (rather than drag down the marker). Now they're both gone and I don't know where they went. Anybody know how to restore them? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: Ooh, I've run across this before.. let me think... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: It's been a couple years.. I can't recall if I ended up clearing out my layout or not, I'll see if I can find what I did. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: Rhavage, send me a quick note so I don't forget to see what I can find.. getting distracted by work for a little bit. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: I know I've fixed it, and I seem to remember it being trivial... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: Oh.. well, if it's just disabled.. right click, choose window options-> Show status bar :) T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: I had it completely go away, but I think that'll fix you, Rhavage. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmmm... 319,160 K RAM being used by MUSH... oddly high amount. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: How the Dickens do i turn off this updater? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what updater? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: who's dickens? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Sorry, MUSHclient, Win7. My mush keeps checking for updates and pushing it through, T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Odd, since it doesn't for me. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: did not know, that mush has some kind of update system :O T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Jedhi. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Guy by the name of Charles. He dropped acid. And wrote occasionally T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Usually only checks at the start. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: I didnt either. Started last night. And yes, thats what i mean Arci. I dislike it. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Turn off the plugin, then. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i think the problem is the fact, that you are using windowz. it is real not an operating system, rather an AI with a low IQ T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: does what it pleases T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Arci, any advice on that? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, because mocking or insulting operating systems is the solution here... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ctrl+Shift+P, look for Aardwolf Package Updater. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: And Jedhi, I use Linux, i just dont like gaming on it. And for my work its obsolete. So neh. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can remove it, but you'll have to manually check for new versions. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Thanks Arcidayne! T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Ace, which distro? i am mainstream, ubuntu T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And you make fun of Windows... hahahaha. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah..... :P T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: will it is better than windows. only reason i use linux is i am lazy. with ubuntu i have almost all my needs packaged T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Fedora and Slacko, when i have to programme. But like i said, my entire industry is built on Windows. Food and Beverage, before you ask. So me sitting with Mac to do my design work, Linux to email off of and do spreadsheets and then Windows to run all my POS? Not a chance. Windows does everything, and it does it to a certain degree of success. Linux has its many advantages, mainly the user community and the freedom to make it dance to my tune, but games are only now being launched on it in a mainstreem way, and its such a pain to network with NonLinux terminals. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Yeah.... Ubuntu is a starter Linux T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well, only game i play is mud. and for me windows has zero advantages. suits extremly well for web coding T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and i think spreadsheeting is not an problem in linux. i do not use it myself though T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Google Spreadsheets is pretty handy, at the very least. OpenOffice is nice, too. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: not sure most use openffice these days, libre is more popular T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne does seriously wish people would stop with the operating system wars when someone asks for help. The answer is never, "Your OS is dumb, get a real one!" :p T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no clue why T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Iv never been able to crack a wifi router with it. Its clunky in that aspect. And i can code on a website on notepad, i dont rate that as a deciding factor for me. Interfacing maaaaan.... It needs to talk. Linux only talks to linux, and not much is linux in the commercial world. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Arcid - you wouldn't say that if you'd try Warp OS/2 like I told you!!! T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: I do like that i can load Slacko on a cheap JapTech tablet i bought though :) Full desktop on a ZAR800 tablet. Awesome stuffs. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with [Outlaw] Mendaloth about their shared secret. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: You've never cracked wifi with linux? But its so easy... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wait, when did you tell me to try Warp Os/2? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Never with Ubuntu T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Kali Linux is nice in that regard. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ohh, okay, fair :P T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: I used to love OS/2. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: Sigh, those were the days. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with Red Light Robbo about their shared secret. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: I had the Warp 2.99 beta on floppy! T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: (then got a CD with 3.0) :P T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i have never had a need to crack wify T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: probably estonian thing :) T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, Estonia is too poor to have wifi anyway. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne runs away in utter terror! T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: loll T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: The book "The blue nowhere" by jeffery deaver spoke of an "amobeus" OS, an all inclusive one. Then again, he also wrote about stenography being used for hacking. Guy did meth envisioning that stuffs. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love the Lincoln Rhyme series from Deaver. I haven't read "The Blue Nowhere", though. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Arc come to estonia... i am pretty sure you will not find more open wifi networks from anywhere else T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure, pay my ticket and I will! :p T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Come to South Africa man, If your not fast you are food. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and our 4g is pretty cheap as well. i think starts from 10 euros/month T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, i have heard the net prices in SA. it s a murder T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: I pay that for 100MB. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Holy crap, there are 10 people from Estonia (at least) online right now! :p T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: at home i have 50Mbit cable for 20euro/month T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: most are in retri :) T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: total population of 1.3 million :) T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It cracks me up sometimes, seeing the different places... one from Malaysia, one from Israel... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: what's the command to see places? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: domains T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: thank you T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Maaaan, Im in the middle ages here. The locals just burnt a woman for witchcraft. And its a monthly thing. LTE was just launched in my area, I think my pc is still in shock from 60mb a sec T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: israel here :) T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: eh, did know that T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: did not* T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Of course, it's just where the domains are, but unless you've got someone masking, it's pretty accurate. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: The only one from Isreal :) Awesome place, though T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: i think you can count on commercial, net, and edu being 95% US as well T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wait, you're serious, someone just got burned for witchcraft??! T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i wonder who are the 2 estonian who are not on my flist. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fantomex? :p T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, he hates me T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's one, then. Haha. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .... Hwuaijijal raises his hand. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And there's your other, I suppose. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Yeah,,, Happens all the time. Its the locals. Our president comes from a culture that slaughters goats. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: hwu from estonia? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Remind me never to visit you, Ace. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Why not? Its beautiful. There was a Rhino being hidden from poachers around the corner from me. Then they decided Rhino horn is viagra. So yeah. Only giraffes, lions, monkeys, baboons, meerkats, a vibrant selection of snakes, birds and other creatures left. Until we kill those off. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: anyone here play a mud called Lenmoor? is it any good? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Here's a simple test. Is the name Aardwolf? No? Then it sucks. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's generally considered poor form to ask about competing MUDs when on a MUD... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique is agreeing with that Birdbrain Metria person again... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: abelinc speaks the truth T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: akin to asking people in the McDs tables how they like Whopper T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: To be fair, the Whopper is pretty good. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: while wearing a mcd uniform... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: I am curious, who on the tech channel work with technology of some form for a living? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I do. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i wouuldnt call it a competing mud . but w/e. ppl can play more than one. btw screw both McD's and BK. Fuddruckers is the king of gargantuan burgers in the US. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girak Tech: I do. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I used a computer daily T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: heaps will T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Fuddruckers is the king of OVERPRICED burgers T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I have a feeling most of Aard works in IT in one form or another :p T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: umm ... i chop down trees with my teeth for a living - tech is strictly recreational :p T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, most of aard mirrors most of life T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: fuddruckers is only overpriced if you dont use enough toppings... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Fuddruckers should be near last for burger options. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Nah, I'd say the nerdier segments are over-represented in MUDs. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we've got geologists, virologists, teachers, retired people, stay-at-home moms, etc T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth is agreeing with that Raded person again... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: hmm. strange. i bought a 2lb burger there last week for $8.70ish. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: models, athletes... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the geekier side, but not from a geekier segment T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: You listed three nerdy things T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: we should do a census T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nerdy but not IT T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: PEDANT T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: I was curious if there were any other DBA's ( to narrow down why I asked ) T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the question that was asked, rather than "smart people" T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i thought everyone loved -pedantic ... T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dolt comforts Tunxis. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, there are other DBAs T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (not me, but there are some ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i consider myself a geek with nerd qualities. but friends call me nerd. who is right? T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tunxis ) T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: Weird Al should have called his song White and Geeky. T3/r7/2014-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if you have friends, then yer prolly a geek :p T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone know if there was an .exe for sql server enterprise manager circa sql 2000 & 2003? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why don't you use SQL management studio ? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: looking for machines that might be able to edit dbs T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: already searching for ssms and sqlwb T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and those dbs are what db files ? MS SQL ? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: save yourself misery and get on a supported version of sql server :P T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i appreciate the help but you didn't read the question T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i do in fact us ssms though T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: using it to try and track down machines that might have previous version of sql management software T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mush uses sqlite T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: windows 8 has hyper-v T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: doesn't osql have the ability to scan the network for other sql instances as long as they're listening? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: don't think that's vesrion dependent T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so no idea if there is an .exe for the 2000 & 2003 version of sql server management software? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: there is, but i no longer have access to those versions .. i remember i couldn't use mosto f the utilities of supported versions on 2000 though T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have no way of knowing the machines i am scanning this for are on or connected to the db T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: but if you're task is to determine machines with previous versions, you don't need ssms T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: was it not "SQL Server Enterprise Manager.MSC" ? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: trachx that is what i have come up with so far T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am searching the db for all machines that have ssms.exe, sqlwb.exe installed on them T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you can use the output of osql -L to get a list, and either powershell or make a temp table and cursor to get the versions T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: just make sure you run it on a machine and with a user that will be able to access any machine T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mye the db i am searching spans the world so not all the machines are going to be on or connected all the time T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but that could be a better start T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if the machines aren't on, no method will detect them... T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yes but i am using altiris so there is an installed software db T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hence searching for the software vs discovery. the machines are already discovered. i am just trying to find which machines are likely to be creating other SQL instances T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: look for isql.exe or osql.exe then T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: look for the master database T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: master.mdf T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that will reside on the sql server though not on the machine that is editing it T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i will check isql.exe and osql.exe though ty T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i really appreciate the answers too. cept for the one about windows 8 that guys a jerk T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have a lg g watch yet? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: anyone know of an easy way to make a miniwindow of clickable buttons in mush? i have a tablet that and i'd like to make essentially a D-pad like layout for movement. T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i do not, but check winklewinkle gui plugin T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: use the demo plugin in mush as an example of how to make miniwins and interactive controls within T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groklar Tech: my text is messed up T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groklar Tech: after I logged onto some mobile clients T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groklar Tech: anyone have ideas T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Groklar, you are going to have to be more specific, how exactly is it messed up? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groklar Tech: my map plugin isn't working and my map is messed up T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groklar Tech: with weird symbols T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: wow. specificity T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type maptype. T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: YOu probably want maptype 0 T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groklar Tech: yes! T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Groklar Tech: sweet thanks T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: nice T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dusty, Old Defines awes [Outlaw] Mendaloth with her obvious Ninjaness. T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yet another reason I like nomorerack.com: Apple iPhone 5 iOS 6 Dual-Core 1GHz 16GB 4" Dual-Camera Smartphone - GSM Unlocked & Refurbished: $799.00 retail. On sale for $299.00, and $2.00 shipping. T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Uh, the iphone 5 doesn't retail for 800 bucks anymore. T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: anyone here familiar with powerline adapters and turning routers into an access point? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: 697.97? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: i have a question T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: I just got a quad core 1.5Ghz 1GB ram 16GB tablet for $79 bucks at walmart T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's the question Tiana? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: specifically a question about disabling the dhcp and what i need to put in for the new ip address T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: depends on if it's internal or external facing T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That would depend solely upon your network. T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: my main router is 10.0.0.1 with a range of 10.0.0.2 -.252 T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: i put in 10.0.0.254 but gave me an error T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What error? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: i thougth i was sposed to put in a range outside of the dhcp T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: that my browser wasnt the same as what i was ttrying to put in T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: so i changed the browser but then i couldnt access admin console had to reset the second router T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What is the ap's address currently? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: linksys router so 192.168.1.1 T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well if you change subnets, yeah, your browser won't be able to access it again.. So that's normal T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: i've read like 5 pages that says i'm sposed to change the subnet to something outside of that range T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: to make it an ap vs router T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: so my question is what shold i be putting in there if not .254 T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Give it a static address (ie. one that's outside of your DHCP server's address pool T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: But it should still be in the same subnet T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Your subnet is 10.0.0.0/24, DHCP pool of .2 - .252, right? T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: .1 for addy yeah and .2-.252 for range T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So set the AP to 10.0.0.253/24 T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disable it's built in dhcp server. T3/r7/2014-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: ok i'll try that thank you. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wisely Tech: Hey. Can anyone tell me how can I clear screen? Thanks! T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: on mush? shift ctrl c T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wisely Tech: Thanks man! T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ThemApples Tech: so I downloaded a plugin called campaign noter. I installed it, it shows up in the plugins window just fine. If I hit enable nothing happens. What am I doing wrong? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Perhaps nothing. Many plugins won't do anything off the bat, need to do something (like take a cp, cp check) to trigger them. I guess the questions is, what do you expect should happen? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ThemApples Tech: it should display a window with my campaign objectives T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try moving your windows around, it might be behind another. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ThemApples Tech: tried that T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Look at the file, there might be a command to turn it on. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Also you aren't on a a CP. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ThemApples Tech: I know im not, but the groups window shows even if im not in a group T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: not all plugins work like that T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Which I said in my first note! T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ThemApples Tech: Hahah allright sorry! T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loosid Tech: anyone in the northeast corridor use dnscrypt? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: hi there) need some help T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: mushclient is not starting. fresh download is T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: where are aliases/variables/mapper data stored? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: problem seem with mushclient_prefs.sqlite T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: anyone here at all? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: depends T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: well, problem is in hist T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: after closing mushclient, it didnt open again T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: now im trying to restore world/mapper db, aliases, triggers, variables T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pseudocyesis Tech: Aliases, triggers, etc in .mcl file in Worlds dir. Mapper database in .db file in mush main dir T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: great, so they were in world file, its 100% empty now, and no backup i assume T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pseudocyesis Tech: Did you happen to export them or try to make a plugin? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: no T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: they were all opening on ctrl+shift 9 T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: anyway of minimizing the font and windows sizes of my mush client? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: hey is anyone there T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: anyone T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: alive in this channel need some help T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: cmon maaaaaan T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Gotta give us a chance :P T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You sort of asked two very different questions :P T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i did T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: but this is the real question is there anyway i can modify the fond and text and window size of the mush client because i cant seem to find the windows for my addons on my current resoultion T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The font of the main window is controlled by pressing Alt+Enter, then going to "Output" then changing font. Be sure to use a fixed width font for an sort of coherent result. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: To change the fonts of your miniwindows right click on them and go to Change Font... T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: To make the windows bigger, drag the bottom right corner, the little gradient/triangle. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i cant find my mapper extender the campaign addon window because of my resoloution i think T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try -h T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sort of a mis :P T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well that's very different question all together....don't use that plugin but xreset gui? I think I've heard enoguh people say that.... T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i mean im using a tv monitor for my computer and i cant see my mapper extender window because of the tv resoloution T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: thanks man T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: ok, i forgot how to configure mush so it will recall similar typed command from log on arrow up, like i typed rt avian, if i type rt a and arrow up, it would recall it? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: how do I fix one of my mini windows from being too high and cannot be dragged? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: you can either reset all windows, or modify it's configuration file directly to put it back on screen T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: usually easier to just reset all windows though T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: I'll go with reset, how though? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'resetaard' T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: didn't work for my custom window T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is it part of the Aardwolf package, or is it an add-on, like Bast's stuff? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yup T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Which? I asked an "OR" question :P T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: sorry, addon T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: which one is it? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wish you'd mentioned that before, resetaard doesn't touch those. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: nevermind Figured it out. Reset the plugin. Thanks! T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!* Go Drunk'ing Abel!!! Lactating Lachdanan cheers him on. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: what's the counter part to setting up a k *, is it bs $? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What do you mean? T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: it's %1, %2 etc if you're talking about mush aliases. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: that's it. %1, thanks. I think I've forgotten everything T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: Has anyone try observing data from mushclient using wireshark or similar progarm? is it encoded or plainly visible? i'm using a public internet service, so asking... T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: it uses standard protocols T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telnet is non-encrypted...your password is sniffable T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i thought so. i'll have to change my password later. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use 'your good password' on Aard...(or any gaming site, for that matter) T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: nod. thank you. :) T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Generally speaking, you shouldn't be using the same password on two different sites, anyway. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot Tech: It depends. It's generally okay to use the same password for your Club Penguin and Adventure Quest accounts. T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: AND RISK MY PENGUINS?! T3/r7/2014-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria slaps Aimbot. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: my chat capture miniwindow dissappeared. how do I fix it? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type chats show T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: it's ok, your chat windows are hiding from abelinc T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: it's for your own good T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: hmm. it seems the capture triggers are gone because everything is in the main window T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: any way to reset the layout? i really dont want to download and reinstall the client again and lose every map setting etc. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: aardreset T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: sorry, resetaard T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: that did it, thank you T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxea Tech: is there a way to make a trigger in mudlet that makes a sound? I want to make an alert for when I can quest again. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxea Tech: nevermind, I figured it out. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Got a new computer. Trying to set up mushclient, but cannot remove read only access. Any suggestions? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: This is Windows 8 T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put it somewhere not in program files T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Like desktop? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: there, or my documents T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: desktop, my docs, etc. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Yes, it's on desktop already T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: What should I try next? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, you just copied it to your desktop, not like the "all users" desktop, right? that should already allow it to be written to T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Correct T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the MUSHclient executable and look at its properties...is there an "unblock" button at the bottom? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Yes. I'll try that T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Unlocked it...still get the read only problem T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: about all that's left is to go to properties of the MUSHclient folder, to security tab, click advanced...add yourself to that list and click replace permissions on all child objects T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: So, I see my user name listed with "full control" access. When I click view add or remove, I see a list of options, and write is not selected. However, the whole thing is greyed out. I am unsure how to edit this. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Although, double clicking on my permission entry name shows that I should have write access. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: I've clicked the child object permissions option, but this did not make a difference. Still had the read only problem. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you're in the "advanced" section...you can uncheck inherit (which is where the greyed out selections came from) T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Yes, I am in advanced section. I'll try that. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: No luck. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Assuming your user has admin priviliges, you could always just run MUSH with admin priviligies. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Specifically, I get the error that "The global preferences database at (location) is read-only. Please ensure that you have write-access to the file. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the owner tab...try to make yourself owner (and click the subcontainers) T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Selected run as administrator, same error T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: I am listed as owner T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: silly question, Craigath, are you running from the executible, or are you running from a shortcut? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Running from executible. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that (location) within the MUSHclient folder, or elsewhere? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Within mushclient folder T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: where is your mushclient folder on the drive? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Desktop T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the mushclient_prefs.sqlite file itself doesn't have any funky permissions? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Let me check T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I suppose you've checked if read-only is unchecked on the file it complains about? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: That file had option to unblock. I unblocked it and checked permissions, which seem normal. No change. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: in DOS, the command was attribute -r Does win8 have anything like attribute?... i googled win8+attribute, and they have attribute changers?? wow, complicated. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: I have checked if read-only is unchecked. Strangely enough, it is even though the computer is complaining that it's read only. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Ambilevous Tech: What about ownership? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: have you tried a fresh install? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: This is a fresh install. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: I just downloaded it before coming here. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: I am listed as owner. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: My account has admin privileges. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: By the way, I really appreciate you all trying to help with this. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Ambilevous Tech: is it in a cloud folder? Dropbox etc T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: No T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just for giggles, try My Docs rather than desktop T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Will do T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Lol T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it SHOULD work from desktop as well, but it's worth a shot ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: That worked! T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: Any idea why? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: the odd and strange ways of microsoft tech T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Ambilevous Tech: weird...mine works from desktop T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno, it's not like you can't write to your own desktop, that's how the folder got there to begin with T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ambi: are you on W8 or W7? T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Ambilevous Tech: 8 T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gremlins T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Ambilevous Tech: .1 T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mostly Ambilevous seems to think you have the right idea. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Rule #16 for tech support: Don't ask how they got your stuff to work. Most of the time, they don't know. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: I have a building question about stopping a timer in an mprog. T3/r7/2014-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Which was... shit, 18 years ago. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: is there a way to make a permanent tracker of my hunger/thirst on mush? meaning i want a window for it T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: get nohunger... seems easier ;) T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: lol lets keep thinking:P put that in our back pocket T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure, I'm pretty sure I've seen on on mushclient forum, if not you can find one you can change....though I doubt they make use of GMCP hunger info. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: kk will go look around there thanks T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But I've found all I have to do is quaff when I q complete and I never get thristy. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: thats not a bad idea T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I made a trigger that will gulp from my manor fountain if it's been over a certain amount of time since T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Funke Tech: I see a timestamp on the left of my display in muchcliebt for every like the mud sends, how do I remove this? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Rightc click on comm window go to "Timstamp" T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Funke Tech: didnt work :-/ T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What did you select? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Funke Tech: its not the comm window I am seeing it in, its the main output window T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Is this in the main window or the comm window you're seeing the timestamps? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What didn't work, the right click? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Funke Tech: I was able to remove it from the comm window, but not the main T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Funke Tech: Hmm T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: What's the format of the timestamp? Can you copy/paste it here? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Alt+Enter, Output, has a "Show line Informatio" option, could that be it? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Think that's for when you hover over it with the mouse T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: I'm using Mushclient if a work appears on info channel on the screen it doesn't alert my trigger, but if I put it in test trigger it works, any suggestions? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can't really tell without seeing your trigger. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: if it's just a word that only appears on the info channel, you can do \bword\b and set the trigger as a regex. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That will always trigger on the word though, so if it appears anywhere else, it'll fire. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, it may not work if you're not echoing info channels to the main window. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any heuristics-masters around? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Your mom is a hueristic-mistress! What do you actually need? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: I offer advice.. I dont solve problems :P T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm guessing smack talk from you isn't on the list. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne blinks innocently. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That part's free, Arcidayne. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I've set up a genetic algorithm to do some stuff... and I'm not getting the outcomes I want. I am playing with the parameters, but I don't have a ton of experience with this sort of thing. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: So I want to talk to someone who does for advice T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: heuristic (adjective) serving or tending to find out. (noun) the branch of logic dealing with discovery and invention. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: insightful answers as always, zade T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm pretty sure you just solved Quad's issue T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Yep, that was it, thanks! :) T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus winks at Drunk'ing Abel. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus gasps in astonishment. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saved by the whipping boy! T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: haha T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raded flicks a whip across your back... the pain.. the pleasure.. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: heuristic (adjective) serving or tending to find out. (noun) the branch of logic dealing with discovery and invention, also called heuretic. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: IDK that answer was about as useful as the problem description. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: ah heteyics T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: heretics T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: "I tried to do something, it didn't work and I want someone to tell me why" T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: your doing it wrong T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: =) T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: The problem description was "I want to talk to someone with a knowledge of the parameter space of genetic algorithms" T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's a desire, not a problem. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Yep :) T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: aard probably isn't an efficient place to ferret out complicated bugs in code anyway... T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and if it's not bugged, it might be getting stuck in local minima or bottlenecks. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I really need to figure out what's making my MUSHclient use up 320mb RAM... T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There is a way to look at memory usage by plugin I think.... T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: notepad uses more than that T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I've never had notepad read: 321,211 k in task manager. :p T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up some logfiles ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks at your saying. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I have Notepad ++ running right now, and don't even see near that, with 8 tabs open. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Notepad ++ 1,464K :p T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mendaloth: If you find that way, let me know, please. :p T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think it's in basts T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: probably is, really. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd wager it's the eq plugins. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: type plugins T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: PluginFunctions v2089 phelp Plugins List - Found: 109 T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's it, thanks, Dolt. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeaps that's the one....although my mush is using 250MB of ram and only 60MB are from plugins. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hahaha... wow, the miniwin_spellup is taking 83,857K alone. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only 99,068K total from plugins, though. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: yeah that's my worst too, 126,372KB T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder why miniwin spellup uses so much T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Multi-tab, constantly updating... that's my guess. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: kind of irrelevant T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably, but only reason I can think of. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Trying to configure a layer 3 switch as a dhcp server for a packet tracer activity but for some reason I can't set the lease time. The lease command isn't even being listed in dhcp-config mode. Any ideas? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Stupid question warning! So I messed up my plugins for mush, had to reinstall them and now I can't find a few again. Whats the name of the one that displays current quest, or when you level, to group? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: statmonitor T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Ambilevous Tech: sharptracker will do that too T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i use sharptracker T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Statmonitor only displays it in a local echo T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: As far as I've seen T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Plenty of them do, though. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: it has configurable channels T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can say where to report T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: But where's the fun in that. You have to annoy whoever you're grouping with T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: I don't have friends, Holliday. No worries. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to bast's googl code page, it has tons of info on its wiki T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: statmn set (questchan/levelchan/gqchan/cpchan) gt T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Thanks Abe T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: And dolt, and all :) T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mendaloth's fake tracker channel is nice to prevent annoying people when you group. :p T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: I might output it to spouse as I hate mine T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the comm log has a built in facility for fake channel stuff which bast already uses T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: The nudge to the google code page was most helpful, that'll answer my other questions as well. :) Thanks again T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: How so, Abelinc? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: set the channel to commlog T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Doesn't seem to work. :p T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you set bast's statmonitor to output to commlog and it didn't work? T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, I don't use that. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was referring in general. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in general, https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Send_your_own_custom_lines_to_the_log_window T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc mendaloth's adds an additional feature of an aardlike -h rather than just commlog scrollback T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so there's certainly room for both options :-) T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'll have to take a look at that, though. Thanks, Abelinc. T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxea Tech: is there a way I can set blowtorch to not make new buttons on long presses? it keeps making them when I'm scrolling through text T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't hold down when scrolling... T3/r7/2014-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxea Tech: I'm not holding down. it makes buttons while I'm scrolling. finger moving and it still treats it like a long press. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Is there an easy way to do Find & Replace for multiple triggers? T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Shut down mushclient, open your world file and edit it, then start it up again T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Export them all, find/replace, then paste again. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raded goes ooOOooOOoo. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or what Metria says. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raded thanks Birdbrain Metria heartily. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raded thanks Arcidayne heartily. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Might want to back up your world file if you're gonna edit it directly though. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: can you remove ie from your computer T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably don't want to, though. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It /is/ useful for some things, though I couldn't tell you off the top of my head. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: new client update. fixes some stuff. T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxea Tech: does anyone know if there's a way to make a trigger in blowtorch that clears the notification my quest alert trigger makes when I accept a quest? T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: how do you make the mapper use portals in mush? T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pietrava Tech: Here is a good guide: http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html#defining_portal_destinations T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: thank you will check it out T3/r7/2014-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxea Tech: is there a way I can make a a trigger make a sound but not show a notification in blowtorch, or else a way to make a trigger that disables a previous notification creates by another trigger? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Looking for the syntax to create an alias that makes use of the # and {} symbols. Can someone refresh my memory please? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rnnhrr Tech: testing T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rnnhrr Tech: Is there a tutorial for how to set up MUSH aliases? My help doesn't work. T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: I know there's one in the mushclient site T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immploded Anaristos Tech: there are online tutorials, use google to find them T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rnnhrr Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: what is the command to reset window sizes in mush? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: resetaard T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pizza Lizza Tech: Is it possible to paste a block of code into a note? At the moment when I do it comes up with: (C)ontinue, (V)iew, (D)elete last line, (P)ost or (F)orget it? : Valid answers are: T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: do you have something that is being parsed and needs escaped, like ; ? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pizza Lizza Tech: I think it is the word 'end' how can I escape that? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: just put a color code or space before it? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: good question - best i know is to make sure it's not the only word on a line. T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: like @wend T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: color code might help, too. i hadn't thought of that T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you could also add double dashes: end-- T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: or a comment, depending on the languange of the code T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pizza Lizza Tech: Cool. Putting a space before the word 'end' so it wasn't starting a line worked great! :) Many Many Thanks! T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: hello, using mushclient, trying to make my background white instead of default black, how do i do that T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i found my own answer: reinstall the main layout, comm log, and ascii mapper plugins T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: after inverting your colors. T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: both ansi color and custom color T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: newwhere T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oops T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotAbelinc Abel snickers with Ayasinda about their shared secret. T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: I'm rigth there :P T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: oh. can i change the background of individual plugins like GMCP mapper, health bars, etc? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: and how. T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: anyone have a gain monitor for mush client? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you consider Sharptracker to be such monitor ? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: does it do exp, kills, averages, qp etc? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: session only time, kills, levels, exp, gold, ctax, number of quests, qps T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: yes! That would be it T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also IIRC pups and trains T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: where do I acquire sharps tracker? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~taramai/ T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yet is is rather simple plugin T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: thanks! T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean IIRC Bast's records some data in DB so you can query across sessions T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: nice T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: I'll give it a spin T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sharptracker also monitors youte q timer (red or maybe pink status bar) T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and green when you quest is completed and you need just return to questor T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: this is amazing. thanks. exactly what I was looking for T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: I'm getting an error on the sharp tracker when I quest though T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: anyone have a tip for it? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: fix error or be more specific T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: 2: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: Quest completed:28secs 17+a 5tier+2mccp=19qps 4228gold T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: I had to fix that one. There is an error when adding the bonus tier quest points. T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: what's the fix? T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: 1 sec T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Had to change the match condition on the trigger to this: *tells you 'I am also giving you a * quest* point* tier* T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: thanks. It was missing the 'a' in it. I'll see if that works. T3/r7/2014-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jameson Tech: whats the difference between the diku muds I just tried a older version and it sucked T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: does anyone know of a good mud client for Android? or better to just telnet in with terminal emu? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: I believe blow torch is quite popular T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: so far ive tried BlowTorch and LensDroid but they wont connect to Aard. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: not even via a VPN. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: I'm not a blowtorch expert, but if you type "clients", you can see there's about 15 people on right now using blowtorch T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: BT is iffy for me. sometimes it connects. other times it just times out. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: muds are the only games i can play on me device that dont burn thru the battery. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: or the data plan. when i play at work onphone, it barely registers on the data usage T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: data not an issue. im with T-Mobile. downed 850 gigs this month and counting. not even a whisper from tmo. lol. its like it disappears into a black hole. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: wtf, 850 gigs? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: yes. seriously. tethering to pc. torrenting like theres no tomorrow. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: still waiting for the data police to come drag me away to some dungeon. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: that's a *lot* of data T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: still waiting for the data police to come drag me away to some dungeon. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: when I type 'mapper goto 32418', I get an error from Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper... Alias function "map_goto" not found or had a previous error. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i fix my mapper... T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: reinstall the script? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: well, that kinda depends onwaht is broken T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: Function/Sub: map_goto called by alias. Reason: processing alias "". [string "Plugin"]:2940: attempt to call field. check_connected' (a nil value). stack traceback: [string "Plugin"]:2940: in function <[string "Plugin"]:2938> T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i did reinstall, did not work T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: trying to find out what is broken T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: hmm, interesting T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: werent you experimenting with changing the colors of all sorts of windows? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: download the newest version - that'll fix it. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: kippe yes! T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i shall try Arcidayne T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: maybe thats the problem? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: copying your db to a new install will help rule out database corruption T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: continue with your suggestions on how to fix the problem. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: and i did do that lach T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: but as Arcidayne said, a full new install should solve it T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: oooh! T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: and? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i'm using the new install now :> T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lactating Lachdanan Tech: and it's still broken? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i check my database has my info? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: type mapper portals and see if you list with portals shows T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: mapper cexits also works :P T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kippe nods. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: oh. I loaded a fresh copy of aardwolf much, added just my database, and mapper goto 32420 works T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lactating Lachdanan enthusiastically high-fives Bobolai! T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: now let me load other files... T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i loaded aardwolf.mcl and mapper goto 32422 still works, lol. T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i loaded my plugins without touching the state files. i cant use mapper goto anymore T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: lach...? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: updated my aardwolf app on phone. still doesnt show the mini tell/say/group tell window? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: so when I write something in my notepad and then copy/paste to aard, my punctuation marks never transfer, the " and ' are formatted different and don't seem to translate to aard. Any idea how to fix this? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: example of what your trying to copy and paste? T3/r7/2014-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: might need to escape them with \" T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: does one on here have experience with Chrome OS T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: what scripting language are zmud triggers in? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zscript, typically T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. homebrewed T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know that cmud can use various scripting languages (such as lua), but I don't remember if that only came after zmud was dead or not T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but pretty much anything that you'll find for zmud uses its custom language T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: so no one one here with chrome OS experience T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: never used it... read about it though, but that won't help you T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just another linux flavor... T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: im giving it a try seems pretty good for what it is so far T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone here knows how to read Windows Powershell's netstat -at output? I can't seem to make sense of why some hostnames are just simple integers, like 23. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That sounds suspiciously like a TCPIP port, not a hostname T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The line in question is "TCP myhost:2374 23:38473 ESTABLISHED InHost" T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: With fake numbers, of course. But the problem is there. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immploded Anaristos Tech: sounds like a port to me. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Doesn't make sense to have port:port though... T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Pid? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't see any matching pids. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm lookin. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immploded Anaristos Tech: when you use the port internally Windows (or whatever) creates an internal id. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immploded Anaristos Tech: the logical id created is used for routing to the appropriate users. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anaristos: so... what you're saying is another system process is connecting to my program on that port, and the 23 is a hidden PID that I otherwise won't be able to see with any sort of task manager? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: s/a hidden/its hidden/ T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: get your detects on lol T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien snickers with Zarra about their shared secret. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: sudo echo 0 > /dev/Zarra/opinions T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien runs away in utter terror! T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sorry, that's read-only T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: np T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: im in a silly mood :) carry on T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien flashes a mischievous grin at Zarra. Hmm. is it time to run and hide? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien fluffles Zarra's fur mercilessly. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zarra giggles. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So .. I've found jusched.exe connects to another high-numbered port on the machine. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immploded Anaristos Tech: you have 65535 ports... T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And that "hostname" looks something like "a48-19-38-49" and is one of the mystery hostnames I've seen elsewhere in the netstat output. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: thats me T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I see a host called "hosted-by" too... which dig tells me is: in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN SOA b.in-addr-servers.arpa. nstld.iana.org. 2014053273 1800 900 604800 3600 T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Now why would that show up on my netstat output... T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try adding -n so it doesn't resolve addresses? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: As soon as this other dump is done :P T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm, I've found the IPs behind some of these mysterious hosts, thanks Metria. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just a little puzzled... T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: A server calling itself "mail" has connected to mine, hm. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot Tech: at least it's not a waiter called "post" T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien snickers with Aimbot about their shared secret. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you sure it's a connection from mail to you, and not the other way around? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Pretty sure, since I'm not opening any random things... T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And if you're a MS shop, are you running Exchange? Exchange has it's hooks deep in AD, so it's not unlikely that it'd be talking to a DC T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, Exchange is running, but there shouldn't be a connection to this VM that isn't asking for any mail.... -shrug- T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: At least I don't think it's asking... T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Damn, I keep wanting to type man netstat. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't know what that particular vm is used for so I can't really help much, sorry T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But -f gives the full names, which is pretty useful. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not expecting you to read my VM from there, Metria. Thanks though :) T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: My point though, is that it might not be that your VM is requesting mail, and more that your VM is providing support for Exchange. Group memberships, etc, all that good crap through AD T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Good point. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Zarra, stop checking for Java updates on my computer... T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm, obviously the admin account can see more on task manager :P T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: any tips how to make mapper buy a ticket for the proper area in land of legend to achieve the desired area? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: try a cexit. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just make long cexit T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yah i know how to do a normal cexit . but how do i tell it if ... oh just a giant string . ok T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: don't forget mapper cexit_wait 5 T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: like ;mapper cexit east;buy 1;run wn;board;open east;east;open east;east;open east;east;open east;east;give virginia conductor T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: OH! now i get it .. i was thinking in reverse! T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: k so instead of slamming all of that into a cexit .. how do i make an alias be able to be called from mapper? or will it just work. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: a mushclient alias not ingame T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: alias? set it to execute T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the alias, have your cexit just be the alias T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: your awesome. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: then all your mapper goto 21431 will work T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ok im sorry one more question. if i call my alias virginia . texas .. etc .. will that screw things up if i just say virginia? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to set the alias to execute, just use hard returns in the alias rather than ;s T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you say it? no T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: oh i get it abe. thanks! T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you type it, it'll run those directions T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: what is a hard... return...? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the enter key T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: ah T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why the "make alias" box is huge...just hit enter between commands, not ; T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: you hit return and make a new line instead of using ; T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you only need to set an alias to execute if you're using ;s or if you're calling other aliases T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so if i want another alias to call virginia .. my new alias that calls it has to be execute? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I just keep switching between world, world immediate, execute, command etc until it behaves as desired lol T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: you guys are awesome T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but mapper cexits are already execute, so you can just do mapper cexit virginia T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: (agree ontuct T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: but i want to be able to manually do it without remembering much. like room numbers and stuff. this seems like the way to go? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tend to name purposeful aliases like those something like do_virginia T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i use cexits because I use mapper. derp. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i used to put a cexit for knossos. that was a looooong cexit T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want to use the cexit T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: but dont i need the room number? how do i tell mapper to goto a room number i dont know? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: cexit means I don't have to remember to use it too :P T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the alias just for the cexit...then make an alias for your easy remember which is fifferent than that one, and have THAT alias be nothing other than "mapper goto " T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to have an alias with directions that you call yourself T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you always want what you call yourself to be sending mapper commands T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: did we assume he's not using SnD? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ohhhh T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: no im using S&D T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I have a 'knoss' alias that has the move buy give say go invis etc etc etc, and my cexit is mapper cexit knoss works fine. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter if he's using snd T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so i want to make the cexit in mapper .. and make an alias to call the cexit .. not the other way around .. i think thats what you just said. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: only matters he is depending on mapper T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want your alias to call mapper goto T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: roger that. i get it now. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and THAT one will need to be set to execute T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: im so happy . not i know how to set cexits for all those buy crap then open door rooms. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: now! T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because the mapper command itself is an alias T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i think all the aliases will works when executed? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define "will work"...execute will behave differently than world T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: im a dork tho .. ill probably end up putting myself into a endless "hello world" loop and crash the game T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ALT F4 isnt working!!! T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: sorry . thanks for all the help everyone. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: byw, have you read this page: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper and especially the page linked from the "more tips" section? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw* T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: reading it now . T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: luckily there is usually multiple ways of cat skinning. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hosch did a good job of walking through the thought process of refining setup of some of this stuff T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I go one step further, and have the "use a portal" command itself abstracted rather than the "set a portal" command T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I used this page's suggestion for portals, and they work great http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html not sure if they are the mosst efficient but they suit me. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the link I sent him to ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's linked off the documentation page for the mapper itself T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I see that now. :p T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ... for geeks http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4aMOQ-IQAIbVdR.jpg (nothing to do with mapper. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: So is there a MUD client for Windos phones? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: anyone using Bast's eqSets plugin? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's up? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: this is probably stupid question. when S&D wants to goto amusement. it spits out an error about wanting to go to lower planes .. is there an easy fix for that? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: how do you install wine? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: I downloaded it but I am not a Mac person... T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: depends on your OS T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: on what system? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pop the cork, guzzle it down. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: hmm lemme check T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flak snickers with Arcidayne about their shared secret. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotAbelinc Abel nods at Arcidayne. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: MacOS X 10.7.5 T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://www.davidbaumgold.com/tutorials/wine-mac/ T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: perfect walkthrough T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: cool, thanks :) T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/ is another option T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: there's also crossover if you can't get wine working yourself and don't mind paying T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: you can get a copy for free during the US federal election, I grabbed a licence then just for the hell of it :D T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's other ways to get a free license for crossover, too. Advocating it, maintaining application entries in their db, stuff like that. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So, one of the cofounders of The Pirate Bay hopes it stays down. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Read the article - it's not for the reasons you think. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Metria: I did. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He doesn't like what its become, including the tasteless ads. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And the crap coding T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: everyone, back to usenet! :D T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I miss usenet :/ T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Demonoid's back up, but I think it's still a former shell of what it used to be. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: it's still there though? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: usenet, that is T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Demonoid? Yeah. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: yeah, but the scene has changed T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: newsgroups are the way to go :) T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: On, usenet. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Usenet is a shell of what it used to be. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i miss xdcc transfers on mIRC lol T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: Apple is not letting me register for a developer account...saying the website is unavailable. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Is Apple based in California? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne blinks innocently. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If so, there's a horrendous storm in California. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Peak wind gusts reported: 147 mph at 9 a.m. PST on Mt. Lincoln near Truckee, California; 139 mph at 11:20 a.m. PST on the summit of White Mountain, California; 117 mph at 4:39 a.m. PST on Squaw Peak, Oregon; 112 mph at 7 a.m. PST on Slide Mountain near Reno, Nevada. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: Truckee is on the border line of California and i say Nevada? it's far away from silicon valley. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Negader: The storm is sweeping through California, though. San Francisco had to close down their schools because of flooding. Reports of 30-foot waves and winds at 60-70 mph. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Top rainfall report: 9.36 inches at Venado in Sonoma County, California. Numerous major roads flooded in the San Francisco Bay Area. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ah. that's good. We're in a bad drought. for last 3 years. We need it. Hopefully no one gets hurt though. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, more than 200,000 without power in California (as of this report). T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Worst drought in 1200 years. :P T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 200k without power in a state with a population of 38 million T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But with the drought, too, the trees won't have much ground to hold on to, and we'll probably see a lot uprooted. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Metria: As of right now. The storm's not done yet, not even halfway through the state. :p T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Los Angeles hasn't been hit yet. ;) T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: suppose to rain this weekend down in LA area. Haven't seen it yet. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Arci, you're reminding me of one reason I like upstate NY. Not a perfect place by any means, but no earthquakes, hurricane, tornadoes, mudslides, wildfires, tsunamis, etc etc. We get snow. Meh. We deal with it. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: didn't NY get 10 feet or more of snow in 3 hours recently? T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Northern Oregon actually has a hurricane warning statement, interesting. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er, Hurricane Local Statement. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: like 2 weeks ago Negader T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: and had at least 6 deaths because of it. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Yeah, Buffalo got about 70 inches. They deal with it, too. And by March every winter, Syracuse has 20 or 30 more inches. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Hope this url isn't too long. This is how I spent some of my day, heh... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=999628896717916&set=a.106379489376199.14891.100000124461307&type=1&theater T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: tinyurl! :p T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Comes up "Content unavailable" anyway. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Uh oh. Dunno that. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne wrote a function to make urls tiny on CMUD... I should copy that over to MUSH. T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just right-click the URL in the comm window T3/r7/2014-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Just a photo my neighbor took of me blasting snow with my tractor. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: is Mush planning to move on to Lua 5.2 any time soon? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: I was using bast's stats miniwindow but it dissapeared and refuses to show up even on reinstalling the plugin. any ideas? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: is it hidden behind another window? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: hmm, no T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: does it have a reset location command or something? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: duno. check bast wiki T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: worst case, you can uninstall, delete the plugin's state file, then reinstall T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: is there a way to parse mob chat to a alternate window. mainly for doing tasks and stuff. and then maybe i can log it in that seperate window? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: it does have its own channel tag, mobsay, so yeah it's possible. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what function was used to make the mob chat... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if mobsay, then yes T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: nice! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: yeah true, for goals though, there's often lots of echos and emotes etc, which that wont cover T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the doc page on the comm log plugin has info on separating out channels T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: com log plugin. ok. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's truly best to just turn on logging period T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you can replay everything that you saw T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: hrmm . where do i turn that on at ? so i dont have to hunt it down T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always go to game -> config T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: whats all this preamble stuff mean? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put at the top T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can ignore anything you don't understand, or MUSHclient has excellent context-sensitive help T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i like that .. i should apply that to real life .. ignore anyhthing i dont understand ! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Walad Tech: would not call that excellent T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Walad Tech: lacks samples T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh, there's a dozen samples in every function's helpfile T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ok new question . i see chat sessions and it looks a lot like IRC. does this game have a way to punch into chat through irc? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that chat feature is separate from the MUD entirely T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a client-to-client thing (I don't know of anyone who uses it) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: oh ok. you guys are awesome in this channel. like randy says in national lampoons.. get yourself something nice for christmas clark. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: is saving it as HTML and color ok ? or does the file size swell really fast? also is there a way to make it stop at a size and create a new file automagically? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: if you have a logfile manager running on your mcmoputer, that could automagically break it up probably T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: not sure as to otherwise T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: never heard of one.. ill have to google it unless you have a suggestion. or is it a dumb question because we just dont need it? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd recommend daily logfiles...easy to do that with a timer in MUSHclient...set your logfile's name to be something like %Y-%m-%d-log.txt (or .html)...create a timer, can make it hourly or to go off at midnight, send to script, with two commands: CloseLog () and OpenLog ("", true) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: anyone installed ubuntu on a chromebook? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: Any advice fro a free burning program that can create dvds playable on normal dvd players? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i like ashampoo T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: can you also make chapters with titles etc? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: anyone here know a ssh program that works on bb10 that has keyboard macros? BBSSH doesnt seem to work for it... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: how do you manually get the menu with blowtorch i dont see a button im new to the app T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: the menu button on your device. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: So... is there a way to make a trigger to summon a dancing female to my screen when a double is running. ive tried the miniwin double and i cant get it to work . so i figure a trigger might work. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: like...a real one? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: that would be optimal . but i would settle just for something like a miniwindow .. if i catch bast online ill ask him about his miniwindow double not working. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: unless you guys know a quick fix for it .. the damn window wont display . ive tried the commands on the site and tried messing around in the settings a bit. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: those are likely illegal, since that is auto-grabbing a mob (whether you wan te mob or not (afk grabbing) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: huh? i just want something to pop when a double is up? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: what if everybody with summon did that, doing quests may be difficult during double if mobs were disappearing T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you can have the mud make a sound when a double is triggered T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i suppose there isnt an easy way to make my own miniwindow based on a trigger? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I don't think he's talking about summoning a mob T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you can but its a lot of work heh T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: ah, "laundering" the bot-like activity -- what about the stalking the same mob accusation T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I think he's talking about a gif playing or some sort of visual notification that a double is running T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: how does everyone else do it .. just pay attention i suppose... im not that good yet .. i need training wheels T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i have a beep trigger that tells me a double started T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I just check the "double" command. A sound trigger is a really easy way to be notified when one starts. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: doesn't tell me when it ends though T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I use a sound trigger for GQs but I don't care enough about doubles. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: just type "double" T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: OOOOOO what about a timer! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: you can do %d in your prompt too T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: .... oh my ..... i just wasted like 3 hours trying to get that miniwindow working when i can add it to my prompt. . im gonna kill myself now . T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raded comforts Masrok. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: just think of it as spending 3 hours trying to find a solution to your problem that's now solved :p T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: thats why i come here .. i know there is a simple solution to everything .. just gotta find it . T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: should have came here first instead of last . T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: once again thanks mud pros. i give you all 10 billion doll hairs. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *gasp* Raded *lix* Masrok! Yoo want a *lix* too :( T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: are the bluray players in PS3 as reliable and decent display as other bluray players, (for viewing bluray movies ) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: yeah sure probably T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i like it, and you can play games T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i think so. mines been kicking a long time . T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: PS3 was the best blu-ray player for a long time T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: it even has a built in dvd upconvert built in T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I'm pretty sure the only difference between blu-ray players would be featuers T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i think the downside of the ps3 is that it can get loud if the fan starts up T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Not like one will give you better colors or sound than another. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: PS3 is kind of big and awkwardly shaped but if you play video games at all you're better off getting one of those than getting a standalone blu-ray player because the cost would be comparable anyway. Plus Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, etc. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: there is also the new ps4 T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I really want a PS4 but I think my TV needs an upgrade first. Plus I'm willing to bet that the PS4's price drops in the next 9 months. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: why in the next 9 months? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: is sony coming out with the ps5? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: and then you can play little big planet.. that game is super T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: what ballpark price are the PS4 T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: PS4 is about $400 T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Sony generally does a price drop on their consoles after the second holiday season after the sales have gone flat. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: good to know T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: if I had to guess I'd say September T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: after all the college kids get their student loan refunds and blow it on expensive toys T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: a video-rental store employee cautioned that the standalone expensive Sony blueray players broke down alot, so buy a cheap Walmart bluray player instead, which also lasted longer (is this factual or merely a dislike of Sony) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i would say dislike of sony T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: yeah T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Sony hardware tends to be more expensive and use a lot of proprietary ports and stuff, but they're not poor quality T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: if that really happened it would be huge news and people would be really angry with sony T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: That said, if I was buying a standalone blu-ray player and not a PS3/4, I wouldn't go Sony T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i would suggest go the same brand as your television because then you can easily link it to the same remote and not have to google the codes etc T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Just look at reviews, especially on places like Amazon and Newegg. Or look up comparisons of different models on tech sites. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: currently i use separate remotes for the tv and the dvd player T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: and isn't that a pain T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: if you grab a tv/blue ray that support CEC over hdmi, brands shouldn't matter, remotes will just work (yay standards!) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: not really, unless the codes interfere (like running a dvd and a bluray play simultaneously- watching two movies at once - the same movie, to compare images) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: different dvd players use different codes -- when a remote to a decent dvd player broke down, the remote to the crappy dvd player partly worked on the decent dvd player using different buttons T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: purchased a cheap universal remote, but the dvd player was an unknown obscure chinese nonname brand, and not all the fancy features of the original remote were there (like no Zoom anymore) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: seems that the bluray remotes (on the cheap players at least) offer less standard features than the dvd remotes -- likely a result of less competition since bluray is in the expensive range catering to bisiness-types that buy bluray more for show to others than to actively use T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: what i'd like on a bluray (and dvd) player is industrial-commercial-editing-playback abilities, with frame by frame numbers and access so that Repeat may be set up accurately T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: umm... why? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: some scenes require to be watched in an exact repeat loop to extract that maximum information T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: and that also means the best image and sound possible, so on a bluray player T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: be great to save those repeat section timecodes into an rcternal flashdrive, so those repeat sections may be viewed at a later date - maybe set up a series of sections so that a movie may be watched at a later date with only the interesting sections, excluding the boring or distasteful sections (with a XOR option - see the distasteful sections only) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: external T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: friend has an ipad but wants to play Aard. what are his options? its jailbroken. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: blowtorch T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not blowtorch T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sthiss Tech: mudrammer, pocketmud, muddigger T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pocketmud, tmc mud client, any of a few dozen telnet/ssh apps T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i thought blowtorch was Android only app. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ohh he said ipad heh T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daddius takes a blowtorch to his iPad. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan grins evilly. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i advised him to buy an Sansumg tablet but he didnt listen. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't know anyone who's been unhappy with an ipad, tbh T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'd rather put needles in my eyes than try to play Aardwolf on a tablet. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: login get your db, log out... that is the extent of a tablet T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tablet's not bad, especially if you have one of the bluetooth keyboards T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: whoa... i rather not put needles in my eyes... ever T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course, when I'm on mobile, I'm also still using my fully-configured client :P T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're going to carry around a tablet and a keyboard, why not just carry a laptop? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: you're mobile? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tablet and keyboard is still much lighter, smaller, and longer battery T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Abe is eastbound and down, loaded up and trucking, he's going to do what they say can't be done. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I bought an asus T100...hybrid tablet/laptop..10 inches and window 8...very nice T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: and of course now there's the T200...slightly bigger at 11.6 inches T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: watch out for smokey T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: got a long way to go, and a short time to get there T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: far more useful than my ipad T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i personally hate Apple's overpriced hardware but like OSX. got Hackintosh running smooth as butter on Sager gaming laptop. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: Respect T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You bought a 'gaming laptop' and don't like overpriced hardware? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: i've set up hackintosh's twice, but then they just sat there because i never found any use for them T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: osx with NetBSD's pkgsrc system = winning ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: oh the stares and whispers i get when i boot up Hackintosh at local Starbucks.they ask questions incessantly. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i'll just tell friend to install terminal app and telnet in. should work on a jailbroken device. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: works fine with or without jailbreak T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: terminal on Apple devices is typically hidden. accessed with hotkey or whatever. not sure if its natively accessible on phone without third party apps. probably not. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are dozens of telnet apps available T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: been trying to install zsh shell forever on Hackintosh. but i always get an error. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: People still use things other than bash shell? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm a tcsh fan...script in bash but use tcsh T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: its always a generic segfaulting error. not sure why it happens. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually usually script in bourne, not using bash's enhancements T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: for those that play muds 14/7 on a laptop or tablet, is there an external connection that permits the use of a 12 volt car battery T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: i use busybox quite a bit T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes zela T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's called a cigarette lighter adapter T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: so u want to wire device directly into car battery. good luck. JK. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you could get an inverter T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: car batteries are probably a bad idea. they are great current sources, but they dislike deep discharging T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: marine battery T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: yeah just get a long mini usb cord T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i have to say. screw buying an extended battery for a phone. get a car battery. inverter. alligator clips. will lasts for months just like Energizer bunny. and a thick leather belt with custom pouch to hold battery. lol T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: hoe long does laptop run on a spare car battery rigged to a cancerstick-lighter female-connector (no inverter required since 12v is 12v) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: wearing a car battery? that's pretty hardcore T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: go with a motorcycle battery... be lighter T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you must have very small cars where you live...or very big belts :P T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a laptop would run for about a month T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: except they seem to generally be 18.x volts T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: laptops not car batteries T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: get two batteries, swap every day to trickle recharge the used car battery T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're not going to be carrying a car battery around. Just plug the damned tablet in instead of a trickle charger :P T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: solar panels on your hat T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: or a full body suit with solar panels....... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: not wise to deplete the charge of a car battery too low T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: No no no Metria, lug a 60lb battery instead. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: a flux capacitor! that will give you 1.21 gigawatts T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: Aah yes, harness the power of lightning! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Li-ion powertool batteries are 18v -- use them T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: aww screw it. go buy out a nuclear power plant. you can plug directly into the reactor core. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: Wander with the storms. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Go watch the movie again, the flux capacitor doesn't generate any power. It *requires* 1.21 GW T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: is that GW or JW? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GW T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: I seem to recall he said Jiggawatts LOL T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: jiggawatts for when you want to get jiggy with it T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the letter "g" can be pronounced as a j, but it's still a g T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as in gigantic power needs T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: can = wrong. Gigg is gigg T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gigg doesn't exist :P T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: what about....a self contained antimatter device.generates zero waste and only need a gram or 2. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: how many Jigabytes did you download this month? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: antimater doesn't produce much electricity T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: how do get the antimatter anyway? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: careful, no Gigg then no mater T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: antimatter would theoretically produce far more power than a nuclear reactor. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nuclear reactors don't produce much electricity either T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: yeah isn't it 100% matter to power? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: they produce crazy heat T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't confuse energy with electricity T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: I mean both anti and reg are gone afterward right? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: ok ok....forget the solar panels and find a way to farm the sun's energy directly? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: if you're not going to use the electrons then the only other source is the heat T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: isn't heat a reaction of atoms T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: im truly retarded. lol T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: heat is energy T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: Yeah i'm kinda dumb... it's all different forms of electrons really T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: matter is energy T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: energy is matter T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the movement of the atoms... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: excuse me... frequency T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: energy can be transformed to matter, energy isn't matter T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: matter is just a potential block of energy :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not different forms of electrons T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: i thought e=mc2 T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: electrons are particular particles T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes kalaya, that's an equivalency formula T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: that's what e=mc^2 says, Kayala. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: we need bill nye here to explain T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: e=mc2 is if matter were converted to energy T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: if energy may be transformed into matter - doubt that humans did that yet T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: energy has already been transformed into matter T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: e=mc2 tells the amount of energy produced by a particular amount of matter, in a nuclear reaction T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: well, e=mc^2 is the amount of energy of matter at rest. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: and how many gigs ive dled this month via phone? 2100 and counting. tmobile is da bomb if youre in the States. truly unlimited. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: yet matter cannot be created or destroyed, just changed T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: some matter may be transformed into energy though T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, the combined amount of energy and matter can neither be created nor destroyed T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're saying you've downloaded 2 terabytes via cellular in 12 days? I call bullshit T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: matter can absolutely be created and destroyed T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: nuclear energy T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: that's newtons first law T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nuclear energy exists by destroying matter... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's part of newton's first law T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: e = mc^2*sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2) is the amount of energy or matter in motion. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: not really. fusion does not destroy and neither does fission T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes they do, daddius T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: e = mc^2*sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2)^-1 rather T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the amount of mass of matter changes during both reactions T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: when youre downloading via Steam and torrenting. i call no BS. im hardcore bandwidth consumer. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: that's not destroyed, its converted T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: well, in any conversion there is heat lost, but the system is conserved. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: the equation always is balanced with energy transfer T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: using a Cern collider to smash particles together to produce particles is a doubtful energy to matter conversion T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: and releases energy T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's destroyed matter, it's created energy T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you can break matter down but can you 'destroy' it? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, kalaya, that's why the statement as you wrote it was wrong T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not "matter cannot be"...it's "the sum total of matter and energy cannot be" T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: so if 2 H atoms combine into He, you consider that 2 destroyed hydrogen atoms? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Immplicit Anaristos . o O ( except at the quantum level where the laws of coservation are routinely violated...) ) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: destroyed means it no longer exists, so energy conversion is just change T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daddius pokes Abelinc T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: i think matter can't be destroyed T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: now we need Lawrence Krauss T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just like when I type "gain convert", I "destroy" pracs T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: not "violated" but "ignored" T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: matter is not destroyed, it is convertred. enery and matter are equivalent. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: yes! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daddius: look at the amount of matter in those H atoms and the He atom... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: energy and matter have equivalencies, they are not equivalent T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: does Stephen Hawking play Aard? this convo would get very interestung indeed. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's precisely the point that I originally made T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: matter can be destroyed but energy cannot T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both can be individually destroyed, neither can be summarily destroyed T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: ok ok so we can agree that some matter is converted to energy T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: how we define destroy I guess matters T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: energy can never be destryoed. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: On this mud we obey the laws of thermodynamics! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: matter is energy. in a cell. like taht king ahner there. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: the only way to destroy matter is to release all its energy, thus the equivalence... e = mc^2. c^2 is a constant so we have e = km, k = can be treated as being equals to 1. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: tech energy has no mass, how can you destroy a photon? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Stephen Hawkings erronously believes that information is unable to be destroyed T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, equivalence is not the same thing as being the same thing... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what has that photon ever done to you? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: anyone watch Interstellar ? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Kalaya, if photons don't get destroyed, why does the room not stay bright when I turn the lightswitch off? :D T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: it can be absorbed and re-emitted, but its just another conversion :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the photon no longer exists T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: because the photon has been absorbed or deflected T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Absorbed, ah, so if I cut open the wall it should be full of photons, yes? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: no but your wall is warmer, emitting infrared T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: light photons are absorbed into every day objects, even into your body T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: im being bombarded by zillions of photons all the time. but i take it as a man! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: information that goes into a black hole will eventually be released is what haking says now T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: like buckets of dialtone that drip from your landline T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: hawking too lol T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so where is the information about who was the first person that george washington kissed? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: absorbed light converts to heat, yup sounds right T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: it is out there somewhere T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hawking has a family now. he is a family man. he has to get the $. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: robot voice = awesome T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: he spends all his time figuring out how to do his husbandly duties :> T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: so romantic T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the $ T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has he watched that helen hunt movie? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: stephen hawking doesn't have to do the work, he just sits there T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: how awesome is that? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's all I do too! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: anyone read 'A Universe From Nothing'? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daddius agrees heartily. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: well, he actually watches a graphic representation of what's going on. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: i haven't heard of that book title T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the beginning was nothing...which exploded T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Lawrence Krauss T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: there has always been something, that's the real point. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: was curiousif it was readable by the common man T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Read it and let us know T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: single cell or 2 cells.. it doesn't matter. its all BLA BLA BLA T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: well maybe from our human perception, it seems like nothing T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: Hawkins believe in sequential time, hey may be proved wrong some day. Lots of people working on that :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eboleiades Pleiades peers intently at Immplicit Anaristos. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: Time may not exist at all. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: space and time exist together, in a fabric called spacetime T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: that theory is being questioned T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: time is sequence T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: time is perception T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: sequence T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: time is a human construct T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: if time is sequence, then space should also be sequencial T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: michael jackson's moonwalk was really just time travel on a small scale T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: space is sequential T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: no, its real. but its not a jelly monster T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daddius lols T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: x2 T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: no two things can occupy the same time and space, so hence, things must come either before or after T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: there is no time. there is sequence T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: prove that :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: except maybe inside a black hole T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there can be only one! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: yes there can be only 1 T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: where there is the singularity T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: he's the one... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: some say space distance does not exist outside of the physical universe T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Highlander knew vorpal T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the physical universe? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: a singularity is a mathematical construct, the block hole has volume. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daddius steps outside the physical universe, and confirms - yep that's soooo true. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: black* T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: Of course it does, it's a baby universe in there. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not Abel Abelinc creates Peter and Valentine as he leaves the physical universe for the philotic T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: it has the volume about a few cubic microns, but we have never been able to measure it T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: so it's all theoretical, we never know T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: that not quite true, black holes come in different sizes. Look at the ones in the center of the Milky Way. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: what's the size of that one? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: super massive? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: not mass, the size the volume T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: anyone know about the conallwin T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: the mass is always really big, its a collapsed star T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: its the size that's shrunk down to less than a pinhead, T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: I don't know, look up Sagittarius-A and -B T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: what is conallwin T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: relax&kill T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: facepalm time when it comes to talking like that about black holes... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: no, Kalaya, the size of the collapsed object determines the size of the black hole. If Anteres collapsed into a black hole, it would be bigger than if the black hole of a collapsed Sol. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: abelinc i bet you know more T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: "the more massive, the smaller the volume" perhaps (unless there is a an ability of matter to resist compression) -- but the event horizon is further from the centre T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we've never seen a black hole, we've just guessed at where we think one might be because of what we haven't seen...we can't tell you the size of any of them T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: of course matter resists compression :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: fun "tech" talk but gotta go watch a movie T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: there is no time. only sequence. these old farts made everythin so complicated T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: oh I mixed up black hole size with the size of the singularity (for lack of a better word) of the collapsed star. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: right T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: no insulting the scientists T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: the singularity, as its name implies, is at the mathematical center of the black hole. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: so, do you measure a black hole by its diameter? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: that's one measure, though not very useful, except in avoinding them :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: black holes spin, black holes emit, etc. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: i wonder what they emit, if even light can't escape T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: hawking radiation, right? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or so we guess T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: maybe they emit.. gravity T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: it's the kind that just sits around all day... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but again, none of this is actually observed to date T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: at what rotational velocity do the black holesy spin, and does the centrifugal force counter the compression by gravity signicantly or irrelevantly, and if they are emitting, what, since the event horizon is supposed to prevent emissions T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: centrifugal force? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: not all black holes supress emitions, it again depends on how strong they are. If the gravitational well is not powerful enough, there can be high-frequency ejecta, like x-rays or gamma rayz T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: holes significantly T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: i always mix up centrifugal and centrifical forces T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: "powerful" - that word looks like drawn from a ninja turtles cartoon. to foreigner. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: centripetal T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: centripetal? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: -fugal is pushing out, and -petal is pushing in, i think T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: centrifugal force is inertia T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. not actually a thing of its own T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: a property T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cetripetal force is the force not allowing the object to succumb to inertia T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: which one keeps the water in a spinning bucket T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: ok T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Lids. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the sides of the bucket provide centripetal force...if the bucket weren't there, the water would go straight out T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: like a roller coaster T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: that's the same worry of any financial transaction on the web at any site. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: mis :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, was gonna say, that's an analogy I've never heard applied T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: aard won't know your card number, but paypal will. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: mis again T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: check out this page: http://www.space.com/31-black-holes-universe.html T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, theoretical calculations predict that it will look something like this T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalaya Tech: pretty images T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: yeah, they are awesome :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eboleiades Pleiades goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: awesome images, just not one of them being of a black hole ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: I don't think a black hole can be photographed :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: where would the light come from? :> T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, there lies the rub T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You gasp as you realize what he did. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: from those emissions escaping the faulty event horizon T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: yours turned out fine though, cabron T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Eboleiades Pleiades. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: those emissions may be coming from outside the event horizon T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eboleiades Pleiades peers at you intently. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: damn you Abelinc, getting your tells again T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: the titles don't work T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: w00t w00t w00t w00t T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sounds like a YOU problem. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotAbelinc Abel Tech: time for abelinc to change his name T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He's had his longer. ;) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: either an event horizon either works or doesn't -- or maybe there is an on off switch depending on what fancy theory the rambling scientist is confabulating (sarcasm) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eboleiades Pleiades is agreeing with that NotAbelinc Abel person again... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: I still like NSAbe T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Please, Xyliz, quit using words you don't really know the meaning of. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Words like "fancy" and "theory" don't suit you. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: why are people against relax and kill you still have to move room by room manually T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: seems to me it takes more time than less T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: takes much less time, and extremely less attention...you can just sit there mashing an fkey while barely glancing at the screen T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: People are against it for a couple reasons. 1.) Legit people are against it because they feel they earned their levels, and yet people are just "given" them by way of scripts. 2.) People who bot are against it because they are losing the edge that botting gives them. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 3.) People are against it because they're sheeple and want to raise a fuss just because some BMOC does. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It also makes it easier for someone to cross that line and become a full-fledged bot. A couple of people in the past started out with "similar" scripts, and just got laziers and lazier, until one day, they crossed that line. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: from what I see looking at it, you still need to move around manually etc.. but than again I don't know how to write triggers and stuff either so from a new stand point it makes things take long it seems T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't 'make things take long'...no matter what you have to move around...not using it doesn't somehow no longer require you to move around T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the moving around part is not a plus or a minus on time, it's a wash in that both methods require it T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but also, keypad to move around is a standard setup...set kp-plus to be the kill, and you can just drum your fingers on the keypad to level T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Much in the way that grandpas relay the story of how "back in my day, you had to write a letter, send it through the post office, then wait for a response through the post office", people here say, "back in my day, there were no scripts, and you had to experiment and learn where to go, and mob keywords, and manually type in the kill." T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there have always been scripts T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks at your saying. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Actually he is correct Arcidayne T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first scripts would've come in around a week after the first MUD :P T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: well, back in the telnet scripting was rather difficult :> T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was speaking on a more metaphorical basis, ya know... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wasn't, anaristos T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: well luckily I am a new so that wont be a problem I got no clue how to write scripts or trigger or shortcuts or nothing T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Being a game consisting of the input of strings... it would not be difficult for anyone to have done it. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: my telnet client didn't come equipped with a scripting engine. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you had a poor client T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine did :-) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: as I said... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telnet is a protocol...telnet as a program is not "a" thing, it's a generic name for hundreds of somewhat-unrelated things T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: yes, sir. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: I would like to learn how to do the basics if anyone is willing to help like key binds and stuff like that T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> macros and game -> configure -> keypad T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's a shame the macros aren't as easily customizable as they were in CMUD. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: -g 20 T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: type "alias f " and then press f over and over T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or zMUD for that matter. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: it's built in to the mud T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: But, on the plus side, at least everything else isn't like zmud :D T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: if you want to learn how to write bsic scripts for mush, there are online tutorials. You can use google to find them. Ignore the "1,250,000 entries found...", though. There aren't that many turorials. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Anyone remember puablo? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pueblo? :p T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMWatching Abelinc keeps typing "f", but his screen is just filling up with fffffffffffffffffff T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: yeah, pueblo was very ambitious. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: pablo? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: sure, it has been so long I don't remember how it was spelled. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: Zugg's mxp is a bastard child of pueblo. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I did not know that T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I learned scripting by doing what most kids do when they're young... taking something apart and reconstructing it. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: the only way to learn, Arc :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Immplicit Anaristos. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of many ways to learn T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Extra parts are okay, as long as it works in the end. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Lol, I am a little slow, it took until I learned a few programming languages to realize scripting wasn't hard / T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Scripting isn't hard. It's the mental block people have when they realize they have to learn a new "language" in order to do so. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: if you used basic back in the DOS days, that was scripting :) Scripts are just programs run on an interpreter. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But if you outline something with "If scenario happens, I want to do this, but otherwise do this", then you've started your first basic script, and can easily fill in the code from there. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I miss my old Tandy computer. That was my first one, and I would write programs in there to do math problems. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: hehe tandy T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, once you can logic out pseudocode, all the heavy lifting is done and any language is manageable T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: I liked those T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I started on a TRS-80 T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: radio shack T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: I was a Apple IIe fan myself :) I did look at the Tandy, but I just thought it was weird :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oo, wait, was it a TRS-80 I had now? Crap, I can't remember. Now I have to go look it up! T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: paperwhite monitor and tape deck T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, it was a Tandy. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trs-80 was kind of their catch-all model T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: Tandy was sold by Radio Shack, too, I thought. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trs-80 is tandy T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Man, that was over 30 years ago. :p T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was spun off, yeah T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, I was thinking something else. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: I was knee high to a grasshopper :> T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: started on an MSX T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: that's like saying you had a Dell or a Microsoft, I had a TRS-80 Coco 2 T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I had a sinclair zx-80 before timex bought them T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: \learned on T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: the z-80 was nice, 16-bit :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: All I remember was the blue screen, a cursor, and the attached keyboard. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think I have a picture of it somewhere, too, or rather a picture of me sitting in front of it. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: oh nostalgia T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immplicit Anaristos Tech: nostalgia is a sign of approaching old age... I am very nolstagic these days :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: well i screwed something up . now every time i move i get 3 prompt ticks .. how do i see whats happening behind the wall here T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "echocommands" T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: echocommands will help T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Though if it's script-related, you won't see them. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wait, if you're receiving extra prompts, then it'll show. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's been a LONG day of energy drinks, muscle relaxers, and pain. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only way it shouldn't would be if it's just sending CR T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am at this point trying to finish up a project and having a beer to loosen up the mind a little. That way I can think a bit more creativly.. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh, I felt like a king the day I got my first computer. :p T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Anyone know of a better way to write the traveling salesman problem in java? Right now I am just kind of hating my neural network T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That largely depends on how you've written it, Sonet... T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've gotta get my butt to sleep...getting up at 5am to go hike up a mountain T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: there's no good way to write it T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Lets go with poorly :) T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Enjoy, Abelinc. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Seeya Abe T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: there are just less bad ones T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Madcatz. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: That is what I was afraid of. T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: think using a hash map instead of the network would be faster? T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: there's only one good use for hash... :p T3/r7/2014-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am thinking a weighted graph of some sort and just put in enough code that it looks like it used the NN... T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: can anyone help me learn to write some triggers please? T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What client? T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: mush T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: and what kind of triggers? T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: just trying to learn the basics T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: know zscript but I guess it can't be used here so I need to learn this one now T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's not much different. T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have a trigger pattern. You put the commands in, and presto, you're done. T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Trigger pattern: You feel thirsty --> Send to World: drink cup T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: biggest catch for starting is the "Send to" field. Mud just sends the output, Execute will parse it for any aliases and treat it as if you'd typed the commands, and Script will parse it as your scripting language (lua by default) T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: er, World, not Mud. there's others there too T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The ones you'll use most are either World or Script, though. T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: how do i make font smaller on blowrorch i cant find the settings T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: blowtorch T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I'm pretty sure I'm missing some miniwindows from my console because of resizing, anyway I can call them all back? T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you can use aardreset (or resetaard, I forget), but that will re-resize them back to defaults T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: resetaard T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (I forget because it used to be the other one, and was renamed a couple years ago) T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: resetaard it is, thx T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Anyone know what the original font output mushclient was set on at install? T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: Dina? Or Lucida Console? Not really sure, but I think one of them T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: Dina or Courier, probably T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mine is still old, its Dina T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: ooooh, I like dina, thx T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: is there anyway I can change all the dark blue color? It's really hard to see that color on my screen for some reason T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> ansi colors T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: mud side? I tried all the colorset, oh ok T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to do it MUDside, you want to make it so that the color looks OK on your screen T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: yeah i had to lighten mine up too T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: I think you need to have xterm off, for that option to work (game -> config -> ansi colors), correct me if I'm wrong T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it'll still work on the single-letter colors with xterm on T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: Is there any way to change the color of a particular room in the mini-mapper? T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Remind me what the command is to lock my aardwolf layout? T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: aard layout lock T3/r7/2014-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Thank you T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: does anyone have a good autocaster? :) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just bound 'spellup' to an F-key and hit that before I go into combat. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: tech WinkleWinkles is pretty good T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: autocast not autospellup :) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2.xml T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AceKevorkian Tech: Oh sorry. Autocast not so much. just bind the spell to a key, i think anything else is too close to botting T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: hi T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: xBroadcast_SpellSkills - Invalid spellheaders line: T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: what this mean? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: anyone use TextWrangler? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wear wrangler jeans sometimes.... T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yes, I've used.....oh, 'text'. nvm. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's it do? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's a text editor T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I use Notepad +++ or Sublime.p T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, +++, because my finger decided to linger on it a second longer. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I have to get that! I've been using notepad++ all this time T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: Hi, i seem to be having some trouble starting out with mapper portals and mapper cexits, i have set a mapper portal with the apple press for land of legend but then when i get to legend my custom exits dont seem to be working on conjunction with the cexits in the area... what can i do? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's extremely difficult to answer without knowing how you set your cexits up. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: if you don't use the portal, does it work? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yeah it works without portal T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Don't seem to be working can be any number of things. I've found using mapper where can be very helpful way to find out what it's TRYING to do...that way you can get fix it. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: you've tested it recently to make sure? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yeah literally just now T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i have 4 custom exits in legend T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: one for each stop T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: from the ticket vendor T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: those all work fine from any of the rooms before boarding T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well sometimes mob tranfers add delays which can mess with stacked commands. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those exits cannot work from any room after boarding T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd have to have a different cexit for that T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you remember to unkeep the ticket in your cexit after you buy it, so that you can actually hand it to the conductor? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: the cexits all work T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: they take me to my destination T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: OK, so you're not defining the problem very well - what is it exactly that does not work, and what error(s) do you see? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just a shot in the dark... did you set your cexits to start from the beginning room in Land of Legend, or from the portal drop off? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not that it should matter (it should go to the room regardless), but... T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: neither T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then... that's your issue. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or wait, where did you set them at? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i am trying to get a mapper portal to work with mapper find using the cexits in the area T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: the ticket vendor in legend T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper portal has nothing to do with the cexits T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne totally disregarded the other two rooms before the train. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: so i should set cexits at the room i board ? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So what actually happens? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should set the cexit from the room at which you want the cexit to start to happen T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mine are set from the portal room. *shrug* T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok im at aard hotel i type mf old logging trail.. it shows the old logging trail in legend, i click it and... T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: union station or ticket booth are fine places for the cexits T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i get a messed up speed walk and i end up in the board room T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: what is the speedwalk given? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go to recall and type "mapper goto 16225", what happens? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: run e T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: aargh T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i think that might be the answer T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: let me try T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start the entire line with a ;...so ";tech blah" T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: if it's starting by running east, then it should work. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: run e T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: with mapper goto 16225 i end up in the board room T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: platform 12 rather T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Go to recall, type mapper where 16225 and it will tell you teh directions it would take T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should end up in ticket booth T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: well im ending up on platform 12 T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you type mapper portals, what is the command listed for that portal? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: get apple chaos;hold apple;enter;hold amulet;put apple chaos T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: but with 2 semicolons T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: each time T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so you were standing in the wrong room when you made that T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ahh maybe T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you must be standing in the portal landing spot T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: the portal lands at unin station, that's right isnt it? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: sorry, union station T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enter it, then make the portal T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok made the portal T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: back at recall.. going to try the mapper goto T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and make sure that you remove the other one T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i did it before i made the new one :) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: wait you mean buy using T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: mapper delete portal #1 T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: right? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, for #1 being the index number T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yep T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: what was the mapper goto you asked me to try earlier? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For portals, I tend to make separate aliases to move them around, then have the mapper just call portal_whatever alias directly T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 16225 T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: that's now taking me to the ticket booth T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 16225 IS the ticket booth, so that's good T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK cool...now see if it takes you other places properly T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok qsec T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: 1 sec T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: excellent! thanks guys :) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: are you experiencing these problems on your main char too? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: this IS my main char :) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: thanks for helping :) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: switching tech off now :P T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok i seem to be having trouble using mapper goto from the aard hotel T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: and from recall T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you need a down cexit T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He doesn't need a down cexit. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: when i got to the area the mapper goto works fine through the cexits T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: for the aardhotel T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No cexit is required from Aard hotel. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: was the only way i could portsal out for some reason T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Aard Hotel has standard exits to the continents, and to recall. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i made the cexits from all the exits in the aard hotel T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: oh well i mean in my client T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you make cexits from the aardhotel? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: your advice eons ago T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: trying to get to nakor's tent from aard hotel/recall T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never my advice T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: in call of heroes T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Like I said, no reason to have cexits. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cexits should always be from where you want to deviate from paths that can be auto-discovered... T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should never be the aardhotel T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok so i cleared my cexits in the hotel T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: but my mapper goto for nakors tent still wont work T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Which room ID? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: it works from within the area T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first do mapper goto T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see what that gets you T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so from the aardhotel, mapper goto 33031 T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms: T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should get you directly to the Decide your fate room T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: is what i get T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, that means that you have not put in the custom exit that is shown in "speedwalk call" T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and don't have a call of heroes portal in the mapper) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: or that you've never used the exit in aard hotel? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: so how do i "put in" the speedwalk T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardhotel exits wouldn't matter T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: I should probalby take a tutorial on mapping and such T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: oh, he's not at the hotel. of course. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i am now T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "speedwalk call"...copy that speedwalk into a notepad window so that you can see it T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: run the speedwalk from "speedwalk call", up to just before knock door, then "mapper cexit knock door" T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to recall...follow that speedwalk room-by-room T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any rooms where you are typing anything except n, s, e, w, u, d should be made into a cexit (including the open doors T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: nice, it works :) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: plei: if you're serious, http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html is a good start T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: thanks :) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: just to clarify - "that should never be the aard hotel" obviously doesn't include the elevator cexit in aard hotel. You want to keep that cexit ;) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno why you'd want to T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: it doesn't really go anywhere T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's no difference between the two rooms. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: really? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, really. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan boggles at the concept. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but sure, that one won't hurt/break anything T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Both go to the same places. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just an identically-exited room with less players in it T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just preference of people, really. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as far as trying to go somewhere, that cexit will absolutely NEVER be used by the mapper (other than mapper goto 26152) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: well, i actually do use that one :D T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok so i installed winkle winkles s&d triple pack and i was loving it until the hunt trick stopped working properly T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: now when i click the mob/room in the gui mini window it xrt's the area then only hunts the 1st instance of the mob T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: what's a good font for mush on a macbook air? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: how many times have you repeated that pherme? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I believe xset reset gui will do it and resetaard for the client T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazins Tech: is there a way to reset the screen? I seem to have lost the promt, and I do have it turned on and instead I have --> Tick <-- showing up T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: and when it hunts does it give the cannt be hunted response? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if you have no prompt type prompt T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: mique's technique seems to have worked T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: excellent. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: hehe i have it as a roomnote on a clan room T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazins Tech: resetaard didnt work and xset reset gui giving error That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: teh resetaard is for the client I think, and i used the other one today T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: hmm wait T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: still have same problem T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: copied and pasted incas i typo'd xset reset gui T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: its running me to room 1 but then only triest to auto hunt hte 1st mob T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazins Tech: xset reset gui Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: maybe because you dont have winklewinkles plugin? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: s omeone not have that? no thats not possible T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i wonder if its conflicting with bast autohunt T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: does it tell you that mob cannot be hunted? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: no T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: just hunts the 1st one T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: says maybe is north? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: then stops T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: the mud response to untrained hunt has changed since he wrote that plugin, you will need to edit the trigger phrase or wait till you can practice hunt T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you haven't changed the plugin since the lower-prac-% hunt messages were changed T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: well i just disabled bhauto (bast autohunt) and it makes no difference T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: is auto-hunting via triggers legal? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: just do qw and goto the room listed T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: (serious question, I don't know, I assumed it wasn't) T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but with xset reset gui not working, you should reload winkle T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autohunting via triggers is legal T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if it isnt clickable you can do mapper area roomname to get a runto room T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: but im not getting a room name T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: because the plugin doesnt know which room its in because its only hunting 1.mob T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he said to use "qw", which is quick where T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: whether its "you cannot hunt that mob for some reason" or otherwise T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i will try reloading winkle T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Reloading won't do anything unless you make the change. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: what change do i need to make? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I see he's level 19...iirc there wasn't a change to the pattern for 1%, only for some of the mid-pracs, so it actually should work stock T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazins Tech: the bar is a little better I reloaded the status bar plugin T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i dont even have hunt yet T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it should work now (with reload), but should break again when you do get hunt :P T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique laughs T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: now the gui has gone empty T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type cp check T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: and the <*> wont bring the list back T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: oh it will show up soon as you go do 1 cp mob T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: cp check worked T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: so i dont get it, what do i have to do to get it to autohunt through the mob instances like it was when i first installed it? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: more to the point who broke it T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: you might check the web site, seems to me that used to be a common problem, but I dont recall the fix T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: anyone playing from a macbook air 11 inch screen? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You are. T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: am I? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eboleiades Pleiades goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: whats your question pleiades T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: trying to find a decent font that maximizes my screen T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: seems like a not of the ones I tried don't wrap correctly T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: in the config options you have tried some of the ones in there already? there are multiple to choose from T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: err wait . are you using the java client? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: no, using mush through wine T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ok . see previous T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: yup.. tried a few... won't wrap correctly T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if you right click your chat window is wrap checked? T3/r7/2014-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: it is T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: how do i put a wait into cexit .. wait 5 doesnt seem to do anything? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Should be wait(5) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i have a electrical connection that seems to be corroded to point of it not working anymore (like a really micro rca type of connection), any suggestions on how to clean it out? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: Grain alcohol T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the problem is generally in the cleaning you tend to destroy the small conductors T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's for a fairly expensive earphone, so i do want to try to salvage it :/ T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: red - if something can't be fixed by black tape, it's spoilt for good T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: im trying to make a trigger with this match: * (Adventures in Sendhia) (*) -that will get me to vidblain then mapper goto my room in sendhia. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: the send I have now gets me to vidblain but then stops and ignores my mapper goto command even with send to execute T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: spend 15 trivia points and buy a portal to sendhia =P T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: how can i get the mapper goto command to work within this trigger? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i believe you need to send the command DoAfterSpecial() T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: or get a chaos portal to vidblain, then map from the room it lands in. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you can google it to see what you need to pass to it to get it to work T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: thats what i did :P T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: doesnt DoAfterSpecial() declare a function ? im totally lost here T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you can have it send a command T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: in the trigger send you mean? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: are you using muchclient? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: set the trigger to execute T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i did! T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: as i stated when stating my problem T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: Tech: the send I have now gets me to vidblain but then stops and ignores my mapper goto command even with send to execute T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ^^ T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: then something like DoAfterSpecial(20, "mapper goto " .. room, 10) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok so where would i put that line and what do the numbers 20 and 10 mean T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: im guessing i would put it after my arrival in vidblain commands T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: the 20 is the number of seconds to wait to execute the command, 10 sends it to execute and not send T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: but surely with send to execute enabled for the trigger withen mush i wouldnt need the 10? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: so the trigger commands would be something like, runto vidblaine DoAfterSpecial() T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yes i understand that bit :) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yes you need the 10 > send to execute T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: let me try this... T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: because the trigger executes the DoAfterSpecial, and DoAfterSPecial would just send it to the world, when you want it to execute the mapper goto cmd T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ahh ok T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: hmm T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: still not working? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: im getting "unknown command" during the runto then a messed up speed walk within vidblain T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i have this after i arrive in vidblain: T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: DoAfterSpecial(20, "mapper goto %2" .. room, 10) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: whas is %2, you don't need the .. room T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: %2 is the seconds wildcard in my trigger (the room id) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: this is the output from the mud im trying to get the trigger to work with: T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: Land of the Daemon Birds (Adventures in Sendhia) (20448) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: then you don't need the .. room that was pseudocode for the room id heh T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: Land of the Daemon Birds (Adventures in Sendhia) (20448) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what is the mapper goto %2 show? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: erm T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: how would i check that? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: above that line add print("mapper goto %2") T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: then do the trigger and see what it says T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: it says that is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: then it says tech Sorry PhearMe, you can't do that. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: oops added an extra tech in there by mistake T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: let me copy show my send, line by line T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: change the trigger to script T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: oh T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: let me try that first T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: compile error T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: [string "trigger "]:2: '=' expected near 'd' T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: heres my send line by line T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: enter T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: d T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: runto vidblain T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: print("mapper goto %2") T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: DoAfterSpecial(20, "mapper goto " %2, 10) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: wrap that into Send(enter T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: wrap that into Send(enter;d;runto vidblain) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: do i have the print line in the right place? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yeah T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: now im getting [string "Trigger: "]:1: '=' expected near ' T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ' T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ';' T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: '=' expected near ';' T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: there T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: lol sorry T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: might need to put it in quotes T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: which bit T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: everything in Send("") T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: this is still for the mapper got print thing right? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: goto* T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yeah because print is a script function heh T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ahh! T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: maybe not T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok so i put everything in the send with quotes at beginning and end and i got this.. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: unfinished string near '"enter T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: unfinished string near '"enter;d;runto vidblain' (rather) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: do you have an ending quote? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: what about if i put it all on the same line, might that work? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: to really help you i would need to write this trigger lol T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: or how about just testing the mapper goto print thingy with nothing else in the trigger> T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you can have 3 different send statements T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: send("enter") send("d") send("runto vidblain") T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: do you still get that error? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i get this T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: unexpected symbol near '"send("' T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what is your line 1? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: "send("enter") T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: no leading ", just Send("enter") T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok, that was the quote you asked me to wrap the whole send in so i went ahead and delted the one at the end too T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: lets see what happens now T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:5: ')' expected near '20448' T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what is line 5 T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: well 20448 is the room id T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: copy and paste line 5 T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: so thats a start T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: DoAfterSpecial(20, "mapper goto " %2, 10) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: put the %2 in the quotes T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: and a space between the closing quote an the comma? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: that doesn't matter T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: wait its still send to script is that right? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: tech err T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: attempt to call global 'send' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string "Trigger: "]:1: in main chunk T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what was line 1 again? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: copied and pasted like before ... send("enter") T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i think you need to use capital S on all the Send T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: its case sensitive T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i dont believe it T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: its working :) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you can remove the print command then T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: sweeet and THANK you :D T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: and you can change the 20 to be less T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: roger! T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: hmm T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: now this is very odd indeed T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: when i copy and paste the output from the MUD and use force output to replicate it as output the trigger fires as it should and did when i said "i dont believe it its working" T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: but when i get the exact same output from the mud (without forcing it as output) it does nothing T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: if it makes any difference the output is the result of s&d GUI execution T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: is the output from s&d? or from the mud? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: the mud i think T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: looks like mapper output T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: mapper output is not mud output heh T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms: T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: Land of the Daemon Birds (Adventures in Sendhia) (20448) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: save trains to deposit into instinct T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: mis T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: but its in my output window so it should match the trigger right? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: err, fire the trigger i mean T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: no its a program running on your local machine so it doesn't trigger triggers trying to match the mud T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: funny that i can make the trigger fire from the test trigger option within mush T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: but not in the mush output window T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: seems very odd T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: because s&d isn't mud output really T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: its mapper output as a result of s&d running on my local machine though right? just like the test trigger option? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: the s&d is integrated with the mush mapper T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: at least the triple pack is, which is what im using T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: with the gui mini win in MUSH T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: the s&d uses the mapper to get to rooms, but doesn't really interact with it T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: hmmmm T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: s&d does the Execute(mapper goto room) to get to the room T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: but uses mud output to figure out where to go T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yes and when it forces output from the mapper into my output window (all on my machine) it should fire the trigger (like the mush test trigger thingy) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: surely? no?? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: no T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: the output being the trigger im trying to match T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: the output being the trigger im trying to match T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: oops T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i don't know how to get triggers to trigger on non game output heh T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: this is my point T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: the test trigger IS non game output surely? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: in mush ctrl shift f12 T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: no test trigger is pretending to be game output T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: the window is called dubug simulated world input T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yes world input T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: simulated* T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: s&d is not world input T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: then it says T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: then it says T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: text to simulate arriving from the world: T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: which is where i CAN get my trigger to work T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yes and s&d is not from world T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: s&d is from your computer not the mud T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: let me try with the mapper T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: without s&d T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: its a mapper thing.. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what do you mean its a mapper thing? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: +------------------------------ START OF SEARCH -------------------------------+ T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yes that is not world output T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: +------------------------------------------------------------------------------++------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms: T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: Land of the Daemon Birds (Adventures in Sendhia) (20448) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: hmm well ok T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: dangit T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i can still use this though :) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you can change that trigger into an alias to runto sendhia T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: just means copying the mapper output and doing ctrl shift f12 T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: really? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: how? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: copy and paste the content of the trigger T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: go to alias and create an alias T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: paste it into the box, give it alias like runtosend or something T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: change from send to Script T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: default is send to world T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i mean World to Script T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: and thats it? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: what about %2 for the wildcard T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yeah T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: try it out see if you go to sendhia T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: I am new to Mush Client (Long time zmud/cmud user)...Anyone know if there is a setting to make the last command stay on your input bar after sending to the mud? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: umm the roomid might be messed up though T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: nice :) i had to swap out the %2 for the room id of the start of sendhia but it works :D T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: Tunix there is a way but i can't find it its somewhere i believe in the menu alt+5 T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Game>Configure>command. Check auto repeat command T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: another way is to use the up arrow to scroll through previous entries T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: thanks guys T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: anyway, thanks again :D turning tech off now T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: how do you put a space between the output can't find the options T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: anyone? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: anyone familiar with plugins? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never ask if there's someone to ask, just ask the question :-) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: OK Getting started with winklewinkle S&D. Do you have to have visited the room in the past for it to know how to get there? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you have to have visited T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, winkle is just an extension of the mapper T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: I'm not much of a gadget guy, but I'm sitting here with my new droid turbo on charge and I've never seen a phone charge so fast. Sweet. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what is it 80% in 15 mins? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: I think it's 80 in 15 if the phone is *really* low. But even so, it went from 20 to 82 in about 20 or so minutes T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: did it get hot during the charge? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: not especially T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: thats good T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: it's warm, but not hot T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: even the car charger is fast, as car chargers go. My gf lives 15 minutes away and it routinely picks up about 20% along the way. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll be nice when these gadgets can charge via infra-red solar, heat and motion T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: motion would be pretty nice. Like old wristwatches. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: 01001001001000000110000101101101001000000110011001101001011011100110010100101110001000000100100001101111011101110010000001100001011100100110010100100000011110010110111101110101 T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You begin to recite all you know of pi. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: mischan :) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: I am fine too T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I wuv yoo perl! T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: is there any reason that client is the one that is laggy? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how long has it been running, is it using a whole lot of RAM? try quitting and relaunching it T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Is there an echo and wait like commands in Mushclient? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There is local echo, yes. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As for waits, there's nothing like the CMUD/zMUD's #WAIT, but you can simulate it enough. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: is it too much if it's at 46,584K at the moment? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's small T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: ok, thanks again, Biker, must really be my isp. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it could really be an issue with any ISP between your house and the softlayer datacenter...especially if the MUD is the only thing that's laggy, it's probably that the path taken to get to the MUD is different than your other traffic T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use tracert or pathping to get an idea of where the problem is, although unless you have alternate routes, the knowledge doesn't really help ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: though sometimes if i turn on Bitcomet and just seed, my connection seems not so laggy anymore. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you really need to be right beside the server, like the stock traders :p T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, that's rather backward T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally a torrent would tend to lag you more T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: maybe your torrent client is punishing you for not having it on? T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: not downloading, just seeding, then it would not lag so much. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: though sometimes that doesn't work too. T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seeding can be worse than leeching since upload is a smaller pipe than download T3/r7/2014-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: oh, ok :) T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: for any mushclient users, i accidentally changed my font on my main window, can't figure out what i had... what's a good font to use for mush? T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I use Lucida Console 12 pt T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thank you. :) T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: anyone know how to change font in the mush client? i tried file>>global preferences>>defaults changed input and output but it didnt do anything T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: did you restart mushclient? T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: no, ill try that T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: didnt work T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: game > config > output, in the font box amke sure override with default is ticked T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: ahh T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: lemme try that, ty T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: ahh sexy, thanks T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: last question for now, how to set it to keep my last command in the text box so i dont have to hit 6 every time i wanna cast my spell aliased to 6 T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: last question for now, how to set it to keep my last command in the text box so i dont have to hit 6 every time i wanna cast my spell aliased to 6 T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: think i found it nvm T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: no i didnt T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: ok i got it T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: input -> commands -> auto-repeat command T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: disregard T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: ty T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seimancer Tech: this client rocks socks T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pietrava Tech: yep, it's a sockrocker T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immprov Anaristos Tech: rocksocker! T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: anyone else having a problem with downloading the newest mushclient off of fiendish's page and having some lua file not found when trying to run the program? T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: xBroadcast_SpellSkills - Invalid spellheaders line: 24 T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: whats that mean? T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: looks like one of bast's plugin T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: some time i have - tick times too,and get disconnect T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: this two things connect with plugins? T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: if you installed plugins on top of the aardwolf client it's possible some of them interact in interesting ways for sure. try reinstalling them one by one to identify which one is giving you trouble T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: ok ill try T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Songstress Tech: anyone able to explain how to do profiles so my alts don't end up trying to use portals they don't have with mapper? T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: save world details as... and create profiles for the different characters T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: not sure if they pull aliases from the same file though T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Songstress Tech: so they would be separate worlds in the end? T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: I am not sure... but it's worth trying T3/r7/2014-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: I just dont know if they alias file is shared or if there's one per world T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: how do I make winkle's miniwindow wider? the button in bottom right doesn't seem to work T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can't. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, you can, but you have to modify the code yourself. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He wasn't too brilliant in that regard. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: i'm willing to do so if it's a simple number to be changed T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: but i looked in it and didn't find where T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I haven't really looked at it myself, nor do I have time to tonight since I'd rather like to get at least 5 hours of sleep in before I start the new workday with 3 energy drinks. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: sleep is for the weak! T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: or sleep is a poor substitute for coffeine T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: really small doses of meth are good for that T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Perhaps so, but since I work as a medical biller for a large billing company, I'm pretty sure people would rather I be rested than accidentally charge them thousands of dollars for an eye exam. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: but you already so so :) T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: do* T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't, thankfully. Out of 40 patients entered on one batch, the total amount came out to be $67,564.00. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's only 1689.10 per patient. *blink* T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glanton Tech: good guy arcidayne T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't make the prices. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just put them in. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's for a laboratory, though. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So tissue stains cost about $385 per sample. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Those who pay cash, though, pay a lot less ($20-60, sometimes flat fee, sometimes per jar, sometimes per sample). T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ugh. Been cleaning out my sister's laptop, as well as my step-mom's. Some people have no business downloading stuff... On my sister's computer, over 700 trojans/malware/spyware/cookies. On my step-mom's, that number was near double. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gotta love Conduit, though! :D T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: what is your favorite program for that? I'm doing similar clean up and have some that will not clean T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Said no one ever. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Adwcleaner, for a start. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: my favourite tool for cleaning up computers is dd. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The best part is when they tell me, "I don't do anything but play Facebook games", and then I see "22.JumpStreet.exe" on their desktop. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: on a more serious level, I really like hijackthis still. and add/remove programs. Almost all adware appears in there these days, because that's where the major antivirus companies decided to draw the line between virus and PUP (potentially unwanted porgram) T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: I love hijackthis. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: it's not foolproof anymore, but it's still seemingly the best app for removing crap. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: If i want to do a super quick clean like if a client is bitching about VOIP quality and I want to fix it quickly so I can get on to something more important, I just hijack this and just uncheck everything and reboot, and then tell them not to click on the apps it leaves behind. That proves our VOIP network wasn't at fault by clearing it up + makes the rest OOS T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan nods. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The reason I like Adwcleaner is because it has gotten rid of some horrible stuff, and makes cleanup a LOT easier for me. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hijackthis is a nice tool, but I prefer others over it. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: adwcleaner doesn't always work T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's why I said I use it for the start. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: remember when spybot S&D was like "the tool" to use? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Whatever it doesn't get is far less than what I started with. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Yoost. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: remember when getting viruses used to be exciting, and not annoying? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you can, I suggest getting GEGeek Toolkit. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: I remember when I was in my early 20's and sex was exciting and not annoying, yes T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Handy compilation of programs. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: but not viruses T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, the remaining crap on both computers can wait. It's bed time, and sleep is very much needed so I don't see your name and accidentally bill you for $20,000. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne gallantly tips his hat. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: how i mark(reset) start room , mapper? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: how i mark(reset) start room of a area, mapper? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: xset mark T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: any know a bit about windows homegroup? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: Enough to avoid it? :D T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: fair enough:) T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: maybe there is a better option T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I just got a new comp T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: one sec, getting one on one help:) T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: anyone have any idea how to fix a missing lua5.1.dll file to get aardmush to work? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: is there a way to have mush automatically save at a set interval? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: (I play from a flash drive, so constant saving gives me peace of mind :P ) T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: save what? the settings? You dont chnage them that often do you? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: variables mainly T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I did a quick check on the settings. Can't find anything. Will check better after dinner T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stroke My Redwood thanks Ayasinda heartily. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koyani Tech: I was just trying scripting. got this runtime error . Line 67: Error parsing script (Cannot load) T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koyani Tech: any idea why?? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Koyani, going to need a lot more info than that, but that error usually means you have a basic formatting error in the script itself....what are you trying to do specifically that is producing this error? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I.e. not an error in the code, but an error in the formatting around the code. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Assuming we are talking mushclient, which isn't a given :) T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koyani Tech: was just trying to get hp rl T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koyani Tech: from gmcpval("vitals.hp") T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: is there any way to see what plugin is hiding /scan tags? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: you can turn them off one at a time T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: is it going off like every five seconds? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: no, its just always off... T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: it was scan highlight from bast :) thanks! T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why don't they make many tablets bigger than 10"? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: They're called laptops T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: saw a commercial about a giant tablet for kids T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: nothing new T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Agree with Maxcatz. It probably has something to do with how the manufacturing of the screens was setup too. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: my son has had an innotab for two years. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: It's not an easy thing to change sizes of something on a massed produced level. T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: how big is the screen on the innotab? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well the ipad is absurdly expensive, the samung galaxy tab 3/4 looks ok T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any thoughts on an LG G-pad? T3/r7/2014-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: other than a stupid name? T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: Mudlet. How do I create a trigger for something as simple as an anti-idle trigger? If it's something easily done in game then I can go that way too, if noone is familiar with my client. T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not coming in as an expert in Mudlet, then I'd strongly suggest using MUSHclient instead T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: I'll go give that a try. Thanks T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to aard's website and click the screenshot for a very-well-prepared MUSHclient version T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: Cheers, Abelinc T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so is everyone ready for steamsale? T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Red Light Robbo Tech: Goat Simulator?? T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eboleiades Pleiades drools all over himself -- making a TERRIBLE mess! T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: what is the xset syntax to set the start room in an area in mushclient? T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nazar Tech: xset mark T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: thanks Nazar T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: do you need a discrete video card for PS editing? T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: porn shoot editing? T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: mainly using it to make party invitations and stuff like that? Photoshop T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: no T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: what CPU do you have? T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: im looking at grabbing a laptop, 4th Gen Intel® Core i5-4210U T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yes, that should be fine T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: I have a window that jumped up so the top is off my screen and it's blocking the rest of my screen, but I can't move it now' T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: MUSCH T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: resetaard T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: what window is it? T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: let me ask...not mine :) T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: the campaign window is blocking T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: xset reset gui T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: thank you! T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: for more info on that window, extender help T3/r7/2014-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: Thank you :) T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: where is the mapper information kept? On your local client installation? T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yep T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: not sure exactly which file(s) though T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: that's strange because I would expect to have it remember where I go across systems but it doesn't T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: it saves to local system i think map.mcl might be one T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: the mapper isn't an aardwolf thing. it's a script for MUSHclient T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: aardwolf.db is the database file T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: roger! T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: (assuming your world name is aardwolf) T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: madcatz is right that definatly rings a bell T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: then I am so jealous of someone's Juicy Fat Pimped out mapper DB :( T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: cuz I really like the winkle plugins T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulfhedinn Dalcoun Tech: Is there a way, using mapper's database, to display all of the room vnums of an area? T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowdude Tech: anyone know how to have everything from the main log saved locally and automatically? T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowdude Tech: anyone know how to have everything from the main log saved locally and automatically? T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Aard MUSH client, Alt+3 T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: right click main window in mush, logg sessions T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowdude Tech: thx T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: hi .. I am using mushclient .. and I notice that when I set alias to be sent to execute .. the commands will also go to the world. Can I stop commands from going to the world? T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you want the commands to do? T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute means to parse them as if you typed them into the command bar T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: example .. I created a mc * alias for mapper cexit %1 and send it to execute ... it does that just find .. but then it will also send the mc command to the world at the same time and I will have the result of MCCP compression as well. T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: is there a way to tell the the mush client that the command is for the mushclient and not for the mud? T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you've done something strange, that's not MUSHclient behavior T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: hmm... this is what I get for all my mushclient commands. T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: everything will get sent to the world. T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: nevermind .. I will troubleshoot myself and share if I find the answer. T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: could be some of the missing plugins which I didnt install T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't need to install any plugins T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: Hmm... shrug ... T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just downloading the stock aard MUSHclient or the stock MUSHclient from gammon, that is not the behavior of the client, and you would need to go out of your way to even try to get it to do that T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Put your alias commands in a pastebin so we can see T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or take a screenshot and post it someplace. T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably have some catch-all alias, with keep evaluating checked T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: nevermind .. thanks for your help ... I am in the middle of something right now ... will ping again when I have the time to troubleshoot :) T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since the definition of "keep evaluating" is to let other aliases also parse the same textbit T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: ic. T3/r7/2014-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: thanks for the tip :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veswar Tech: Lua/Mushclient question: Is it possible to send a command from within lua but NOT process it? (IE: Place it in command prompt but not 'send' it to the game) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: yes. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veswar Tech: What's the function call? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: but you'll have to give me a sec to find out how aain. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veswar Tech: Thanks T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: again, raher. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=PasteCommand http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=SetCommand T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veswar Tech: Thanks a bunch T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: here are all the functions http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as well, in the drop-down where you select send to world/execute/etc, you can send to command T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you can directly do that without lua in triggers, aliases, etc. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: anybody know if there's a helpfile or wiki article about the telnet options Aardwolf uses? upon connect, it's currently sending IAC WILL 84 IAC WILL 102 IAC WILL 200 IAC WILL 201 IAC DO 102 and IAC DO 31 -- the last one is the only one in the telnet option rfc, so I suspect the remaining ones are extensions specific to MUDs T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: actually, help telopts is probably going to be good help.. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 102 and 200 are mostly deprecated (aard-specific and ATCP), 201 is GMCP T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help telopts is about 102 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a good couple wiki articles on GMCP, under client protocols (last thing in the left sidebar) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there's a good blog article on option102, under technical category T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FakeWolf Anaristos Tech: you are looking for the protocol command. That lists the established IAC WILL T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except it'll list established ones which no longer have any data T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FakeWolf Anaristos Tech: true, but they are usable. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they're not T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FakeWolf Anaristos Tech: ok T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is nothing that you can do to get ATCP data in or out, with the exception of the negotiation itself...opt102 is still usable, not ATCP T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FakeWolf Anaristos Tech: did it show as OFF for you? It does for me. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's on T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FakeWolf Anaristos Tech: ah, ok, I have it off. That's why I said what I said. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I also made my client support it T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wish Lasher imported some of the opt102 commands into GMCP, it's useful to be able to force toggles on/off behind the scenes T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FakeWolf Anaristos Tech: not part of the protocol. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it is T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FakeWolf Anaristos Tech: if it is in the ATCP2 protocol fine, but if it's not then it's not part of the protocol. Your statement implies that it is not. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, my statement doesn't imply that it is not...the protocol doesn't state WHAT can be sent/received, that's up to what the MUD wants...aard already supports the client sending commands to the MUD T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it just didn't implement things like turning various tags on/off using GMCP T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while it was (and still is) implemented using opt102 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: can anyone tell me why xrt is broken for recall? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: and yes mapper # 32967 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: works for me T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: referring to ww's s&d T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: hmm T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: what do you mean xrt is broken for recall? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tochtli Tech: Seems to work fine... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: when i try to use xrt 32967 i get the 'could not find a pth' message T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: i think he means that if he does xrt 1, and the mob is in aylor, it doesn't run him to aylor T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: wait what? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: correct? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: 1 ?? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type: mapper where 32967 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: err i meant 32418 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: Name: The Grand City of Aylor T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ID: 32418 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: so why is xrt trying to run me to 32967 when the vnum i set for my lvl 3 garbage can ist set to vnum 32418? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: is* T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: (no im not german) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xrt runs to to 32967 because you wanted to do so T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: i would check where your alias for garbage can lands T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: erm T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i did T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: looks like a missconfigure portal T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: like i said 32418 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want room 32967 to be first room in area (when you do xrt ) then just go to that room and type: xset mark T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yes i know about xset but im trying to "mapper portal get garbage luggage; T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yes i know about xset but im trying to "mapper portal get garbage luggage;hold garbage;enter;hold amulet;put garbage luggage" T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: except with 2 semicolons between steps T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: do it with an alias T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: create Portal1 alias with the command after mapper portal T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: i already have rt set to xrt T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: wouldn't it be faster to just go down? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: type Portal1, make sure you are in the good room and then mapper portal Portal1 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: in fact coming to think, it does work for mobs outside of aylor but not for mobs inside aylor T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: (using xrt) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: xrt 32967 isn't supposed to do anything? i'm confused. xrt is supposed to take an area name, not a room id T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: no no no T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: when i try to xrt recall, i get cannot find a path message because its trying to run me to room id:32967 however my xrt works when i runto an area that involves going through recall T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: except for just recall itself T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: when i try to xrt 32418 (even) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: (whi IS recall right) ? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: it is, but you're confusing things by saying you're trying to xrt (any roomid) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: it would make more sense to mapper goto 32418 or mapper walkto 32418 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: actually xrt 32418 works just fine now it seems T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: are you actually typing xrt 32418? because that isn't how the command is supposed to work. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SirCanada agrees! T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: why the hell does my mapper think that recall is 32967 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: (The Grand City of Aylor) (32697) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: where are you seeing that? you aren't explaining yourself very well. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: using the mapper goto from guard room in hawklords T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: no sorry T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok, so im in the guard room of hawklords (just before the mines) i click the mob in aylor in the gui for ww's s&d triple pack, it tries to x-runto (32697) in The Grand City of Aylor then i get a mapper message There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms: (The Grand City of Aylor) (32697) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: ok, my mapper's also kinda funny about 32697, there's no path and it doesn't know much about it aside from that it's in aylor. Check 'mapper portals' that you don't have one leading to 32697 for a start, if you do, delete it. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: no portals leading to 32697 in mapper portals command T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BadSanta Broud Tech: it's an unused room at the moment T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: ok, now go to real recall (32418), and xset mark T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: so how did it even get into my mapper database? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok let me try T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: might've been used for birthday or something T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ahh that's fixed it, thank you :) was blowing steam :( T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: cool! T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Lord Rovin Tech: In Mushclient, Is there a plugin variable which holds the current area I'm in? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: yes, chec gmcpval on aardwebsite T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I'm trying to use remote connection between to PCs I have. Anyone knowledgeable on this area? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: i might be able to help :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: cool:) first, can you do remote desktop between an 8.1 and a 7? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: yep T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok, cool T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I've already set them up on the same workgroup T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: on the 7, I clicked allow remote assistance T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: can you ping between them? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: dunno T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: i would test ping, then firewall T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I'm somewhat techy, but lack knowledge when it comes to networking T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: so how do I ping? :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: start-run-cmd-ping ip T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: or machinename if they are in the same network T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: bah, my 2 year peed on the floor, brb T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: back. Ok, from the 7 to the 8.1 I pinged. 4 sent 4 receieved T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: from 8.1 to 7, no success T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: you have an user with password and already right click on computer-manage-remote settings-allow connections with any version of remote (second one) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: try to temp turn off win 7 firewall and check again :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: so smart:) now the ping worked T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: now you should be able to remote as well :P T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: did not work T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: have you did those steps on your win7: right click on computer-manage-remote settings-allow connections with any version of remote (second one) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: there is no second one T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: there is a checkbox for allow remote assistance connections to this computer T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: in system properties, remote tab T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: same with 8.1 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: in the same window at the bottom T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: you should have remote desktop and 3 options T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: nope on both versions T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: so computer-properties-remote settings-remote tab-remote assistance (check allow remote assistance) and then in the same window you should have remote desktop with 3 opt T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: just has allow checkmark, a help link that says what happens when I enable, and advanced buttom, then ok, cancel and apply T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: check this youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-akU76vRVUI T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok, thanks I will check it out:) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Glad there are folks around who know Windows well, I'm really burnt out on it. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikuson Hakugen Tech: can i quickly check ur version of win 7? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikuson Hakugen Tech: if is home premium, dont bother trying to find the settings that fairytail is trying to guide u to T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowdude Tech: where are the servers for aardwolf based? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cuba! T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or is it North Korea.... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowdude Tech: -.- T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gearhead Arthon Tech: Dallas - help hardware T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Walad Tech: if realtime is server time, north korea sounds unlikely :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I'm implementing telnet options in a custom socket class/client; does anybody know if I need to store negotiated options based on who is requesting the other perform, or is that irrelevant at the MUD level.. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: by that I mean, it appears from the protocol that I can tell a protocol-client server to DO X, and they may respond back with WILL X, as well as also request that I DO X, and then I should be able to tell them that I will DO X T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: but for stuff like MCCP, it seems as if it's just assumed that both people will COMPRESS1 or COMPRESS2 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I would expect if I receive IAC DO COMPRESS and respond with IAC WILL COMPRESS, that only the text I send will be compressed, but the text I receive will not be T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: also, if I send IAC DONT X and consecutively receive IAC WILL X, should I re-send IAC DONT X or ignore ? I imagine that would imply a broken response from the remote end if they don't first reply with a WONT (if they had, I'd have cleared that I'd sent IAC DONT, so this case wouldn't hit), and so maybe I should send IAC DONT X once, incrementing a counter, and ensuring if I get another IAC WILL that I don't send another DONT, thereby preventing endless data transfer? (I'm thinking a broken remote end may try to force X rather than ignoring my DONT or responding with WONT) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: or I could assume that rather than broken, timing issues caused the remote end to send me IAC WILL X at the same time I was sending IAC DONT X, and that they'll receive my IAC DONT X after the IAC WILL X and assume it's the responce to the IAC WILL X they sent T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: thereby suggesting I should ignore the WILL and that the DONT will be received? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: does anybody here know anything about the GMCP protocol past the telnet option negotiation stage? I've gotten my client to echo the JSON objects I receive, but the udstandards.org URL referenced on the aard wiki is a dead link T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tobe: look at the actual GMCP page on the wiki T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: what I'm interested in is figuring out how to subscribe to data, and what commands I might be able to send T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has everything you need T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GMCP is an extensible protocol, the "standard" wouldn't answer what commands you can send, any more than reading XML docs would tell you what can be in a tag T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard wiki page on GMCP tells you what commands you can send via GMCP T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: for example, "protocol gmcp" lists Char as off, and "protocol gmcp char" / "protocol gmcp char on" doesn't change that, so I am guessing I need to be sending an IAC SB GMCP something something SE to turn that on T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as for what to subscribe to, type "prot gmcp" T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: MUD command "protocol gmcp sendchar" also sends nothing T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I get room.wrongdir, comm.tick, and quest info T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that, you use Core.Supports.Set [ "Char 1", "Comm 1", etc. ] T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can use 1 for on and 0 for off T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It does send something. You just don't see it. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: protocol gmcp sendchar T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, oops T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: no, as I said, I wrote the protocol handler and am receiving IAC SB GMCP ... IAC SE, and echoing the json contained in there T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: but I suspect I need to be subscribing to data other than the comm.tick, quest info and room.wrongdir events that I am receiving T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have your client echoing GMCP stuff, then typing "protocol gmcp sendchar" you'll see it send a whole lot T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just told you how to subscribe T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: and I can't find any protocol info for GMCP other than the standard telnet negotiation stuff; the debug part of the aardwolf wiki for GMCP suggests that there's a core.hello command that I should possibly be sending, and that there's a core.supports.set, but doesn't say if core.supports.set is an event I receive or a command I need to send T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just told you tobe... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMWatching Abelinc checks his ignore list....DUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Abelinc's been telling you how to subscribe for the past 10 minutes... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, fine, ignore the guy that knows the answer to every question you'll ask on the protocol because he had to manually program it into his own client :P T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you do tech -h abelinc, you'll see your questions answered. :p T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eboleiades Pleiades comforts you. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: erk T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, having knowledgable people on ignore, no matter how annoying they can be, can sometimes bite you in the ass. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I didn't have him on ignore, maybe he had me since he mentioned, but I suspect it's all this debug output since I'm ssh'd to a server and running a socket client that didn't exist yesterday :p sorry, reading the history now T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: numbnuts does have me on ignore...lrn2type ignore to see your list :P T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nah, him having you on ignore wouldn't affect what you could see. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you type 'ignore', you'll see a list of who you're ignoring. Abelinc can confirm you have him on ignore by typing who ignored. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yes, I did :d T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there ya go :P T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for an example, here's what I have in my file for initializing GMCP in my client: /test gmcp("Core.Supports.Set [ \"Char 1\", \"Comm 1\", \"Core 1\", \"Debug.packets 0\", \"Debug.json 0\", \"Room 1\", \"Group 1\" ]") T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: That makes sense, I thought I had to say Hello and receive a list of what I could subscribe to, or something.. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: making the adjustments right now to see what happens T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll start seeing a whole lot of data flow :-) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah... it comes quickly. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: that's what she said T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nah, Pleiades. I took my time last night. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure that your client has a big enough buffer to receive huge arrays...I was overrunning it when joining raiding/defending/epic run groups once group info started coming via GMCP T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I have all OOB data outputting in ascii and as a php var_export of an array of unsigned char's T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eboleiades Pleiades looks at Arcidayne and swoons in ecstasy. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it even shut down cmud iirc T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're displaying it, yeah, because the refresh rate is going spastic if you have triggers on group, etc. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yeah, handling large send/receive buffers in C / C++ takes some skill to get used to T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: esp. when handling multiple connections T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: i've been writing socket code since I was 12 though ^_- T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: so a year T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: j.k T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: on the 1 year part, not the rest T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: since I'm writing this in PHP, I'm a bit concerned about how PHP will be handling the input and output buffer strings T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: having to run through a PHP string one item at a time using str[n] to process OOB data and parse it out, is going to be several times more difficult on a processor than the same process in C/C++ regardless of any optimizations zend may have put in to assist with this case.. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I mean, I have to run ord and char on the strings to convert in and out to/from int or string types so even after I separate out the IAC SB GMCP ... IAC SE, I have to convert the ... back to ascii and concatenate in to a string, versus just a simple strncpy T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: but hopefully it'll work ^_- I want to make the client side websocket based and basically make a MUD client that I can leave connected on one of my servers, then reconnect from wherever I am, or even have a multiplexed connection to the same character T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I do that with my client T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but not web/GUI based :P T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: hi T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: got a question T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gofer it T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: howho do I get the delete key to stop adding thevsamevcommand over and over T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the delete key shouldn't be adding any command...did you make an accelerator for the delete key? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: nope T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: im on blowtorch T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: crimzscrimzcrimcri T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: oh by the way, i went to sleep last night with mudlet open and nothing leaning on the keyboard - woke up with the client sending "sleep" literally every half a second. Kind of creepy at first. I do have an anti-idle timer set to type "sleep", but its set to every 27 odd minutes. It's like my client was stuck on repeat. any ideas? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: thats what I get T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you have it send sleep? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all it has to do is send a carriage return T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: Just to put my character to sleep incase i was away doing something T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Won't save you from combat, if you're out someplace. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: This I know T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: but my problem was the fact that i woke up to it randomly spamming the command. never happened before T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Before I request this as a feature... is it possible to set up directional "exits" to use a custom exit so when I type 'e' (or hit the 6 on the numpad), instead of trying to go east, it does the custom exit? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: CMUD (and I believe zMUD) had that feature available. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So basically you want to bind the number pad to an alias or macro. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: Mush has it T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Was useful for Glamdursil... set up 8 directions and just type 'n' to enter China, 's' to enter Japan, etc. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Mushclient, control-shift-1 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing e or numpad e don't know anything about the mapper, it wouldn't likely be added as a feature, but you could do that by binding it to a function that does a lookup on the UID of the room east and doing mapper goto there T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not asking for binding, he knows how to do that...he's asking for a very specific function T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Essentially, I'd want something like: mapper cexit "blah blah blah" "e", and the mapper recognizes that attempting to go east in that room would mean I was attempting to do the cexit. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: the mapper isn't used unless you specifically use a mapper command. So you'd have to create aliases for the cardinal directions T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or, I guess more specifically, named directional exits. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: and just have the aliases lookup in a table of "special rooms" T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in other words, you'd do what I just described ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I wonder how much that lookup would affect speed, though. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: It sounds like he's wanting to go to a room that isn't actually east of the room, though T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: but rather through a custom exit T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Both cases are true, though. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: but same basic idea T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Basically wanting a set of aliases that do different things depending on which room you're in when you runt hem T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For instance, in some custom exits (enter shack in Knossos, for instance), it'd make sense to do a custom exit on the "west" direction, since the return is east. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: though it wouldn't work if you did, say "run 2e" in the room west of the special room T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Walad Tech: how would your script know the direction you want to change into the custom exit? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But my Glamdursil example, on CMUD I had the maps relative on cardinal directions, so when I typed 'n' or 'north' or even used the keypad, it would enter the map for China. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: It's probably easier to do external from the mapper T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Walad Tech: in knossoes the exit is east, but many places do have only special exit to go back T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Madcatz nods at Quadrapus. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: the mapper is going to use the custom exit anyways T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: This is just for using the numpad yes? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Walad: It was possible in CMUD. ; T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, for however I choose to do my method of traveling. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Post the cmud alias code for us, and someone can convert it to lua T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It wasn't an alias. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Walad Tech: it is possible to set it up i guess, but there are some issues and its not perfectly logical T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Otherwise, I'd have already converted it, Metria. ;) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means that you could remap a directional exit in the cmud's mapper, not that he scripted something T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: but yeah, assuming you don't care if it works with speedwalks through the room, best bet is to just make an alias for each direction that looks up if you're in a special room T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eboleiades Pleiades Tech: I thought you had been converted, arci? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: You either need to change the mapper internals to allow something like that to be added to exits T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I only follow the cult of Pleiades. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: or you need to just write simple aliases to check against your current room/direction T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eboleiades Pleiades bows deeply. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: and if it's the first room in glamdur, when you press "east" you'll execute the funky command T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Which is pretty trivial, I'd say T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the alias method wouldn't allow you to do 2 rooms ahead T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I agree T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: not really any simple method that would T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. couldn't start the runto glam and type e while running there T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Walad Tech: something like if exits return is no it checks database for cexits and uses one of those? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you know which part of glam you want in, just make a runto china instead T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Can you do that with the mapper anyways? Would it know the final destination room while using runto? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I dont think so, right? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think it had more to do with how Zugg utilized links. You could link the room together, and whatever "command" the link was set to, it would follow that command, whether it was "enter gate;sleep" or "north" T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Just write aliases with big switch statements T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: how would you tell it to go through a link, though? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: without specifying what room you wanted to go to? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By entering the cardinal direction. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Those 'links' sound a helluva lot like cexits, except for the cardinal direction part of it T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They are, Metria. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Walad Tech: doing it alias way probably easiest, but not very beautiful :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but say if you were 3s of the custom east setup...if you type n;n;n;e, what would it do? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I could see a case where each cardinal direction was stored in the table, along with any custom exits, but that you could remap the value for "east" in that particular room. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It would go through the link properly. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's wrong :P T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if c/zmud allowed that, then they were wrong T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: it sounds like kind of a waste of time to me T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, CMUD queued each exit on the map anyway. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Just write aliases to key rooms (to navigate glam, nyne, etc) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's the issue...it "moved" you before you moved T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Nods, aliasing "china" to "mapper goto " sounds a lot easier T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hah, that'd be far more aliases than necessary. :p T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There were times I'd lag up on my screen... and watch the map go through 30 rooms, before I actually moved. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I have about 8000 aliases T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're worried about your 'alias namespace' make it a single alias then that does a lookup. "myrunto china" T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: They're helpful for winning gqs :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But I blame that on my computer. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: No mapper on MUSHclient..? First load T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You using regular mushclient or the aardwolf package of mushclient? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you load the classic mush, or the one designed by Fiendish specifically for aard? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: grab it here: http://www.aardwolf.com/downloads/Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1802.zip T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: The one from the Aardwolf website, when you go to play and click download the client T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that has a mapper enabled by default T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: Check this screenshot of it http://i.gyazo.com/0166671342bc73095079505fb6aa1c52.png T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: So I tried resizing the map and it went blank, telling me "Cannot draw map right now, I don't know where you are - try: LOOK" I have recalled and looked more than once - still no map. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try quitting and restarting the client T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: Same problem. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you disable any plugins? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you unzipped l T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err you unzipped the download, right? not just double-clicked to have Windows show you the contents of the zip T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: We had some trouble getting it to work at first, there was a file we had to download seperately T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should definitely not have to download anything separately T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: Kept telling me that a certain file wasn't there, and it wasn't. So I downloaded it T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: after reinstalling it once T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I want to buy some raspberry pi starter kit with a few sensors/useful things included...anyone can recommend one? I'd like to build a robot that walks randomly at home, and when identify a person (facial recognition) plays a song from his favourite playlist :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that sounds a bit advanced for a pi's processing T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: maybe the facial recognition part yes, the rest should be doable T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oroan: also, make sure that you're not running it from the program files folder...put it somewhere like my docs T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: not really. You can use the android facial recognition api and do all that on an ARM processor. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: wow...so my knuckleheaded project is doable :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: or you can use OpenCV apparently. http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=85755 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: another project would be an aardpi pack T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: I thought opencv was a bit too intensive for ARM, so that's neat. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: thanks! T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oroan Tech: okay I'll try that T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strid Tech: Hello T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lo :-0 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err :-) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: print ("Hello") T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: Console.WriteLine("Hello") T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strid Tech: a friend of mine is downloading the Aardwolf client, yet once downloaded the Lua5.1.dll file comes up missing, is there anyway around this? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: you can download it separately and put it in the folder. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: do it should be included already. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: though* T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: i had that problem when i upgraded and had to pull it from the old installation T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: if your friend has Lua installed, then the dll can just be copied from there. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strid Tech: while we've tried to remove and download again, I've even tried to give the file, it just disappears T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strid Tech: lua51 remains but the 5.1 does not. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try getting the client from here rather than aard's page: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: probably the antivirus problem again? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: see if it is in your antivirus program's "quarantine" or "virus chest" T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strid Tech: okay T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: that would mean it is being seen as a virus (a false positive) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that pissed me off with symantec..."I deleted your downloaded executable because not enough other people had downloaded that executable"...well no crap, I created the executable! T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That, by far, has to be the most idiotic thing ever. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: At least, as far as antiviruses go. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: switch to McAfee. I dump Symantec ages ago. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we moved to bitdefender for work and clients T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: switch to avast, free and at least as good T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: maybe, but if it ain't broke... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: mcafee is garbage too, best free AV is Panda T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mcafee is like a virus, i keep removing it from work computers and it keeps reappearing T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: you can't prove it's garbage by me. I've had it for 7 years and not 1 single problem. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: it also likes to hog resources T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's because it's a managed solution, with the management console set to install on PCs that it finds on the network T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I'm sooooo tired of windows T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: then don't use it? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: well, I have plenty of resources. I am not going to sell the product, all I am saying is that it has, and continues to, work for me. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: deficit of working IT :/ T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: hopefully they will go open source or die soon T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: something I can't say about Symantec. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, microsoft isn't going to go opensource or die anytime soon T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: unfortunately T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: they're busy trying to go cloud or die at the moment T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am curious what Windows 10 looks like. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You know there are screenshots out, and demos, right, Turie? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I make decent money on office365 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't have to be curious anymore - download a test copy today! T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: apparently you can play xbox games streamed.... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: they are putting out changes like there is no tomorrow. In one year they have put out .Net 4.5, 4.5.1 and 4.5.2, now the 4.6 preview is already out. It took them 4 years to go from .Net 3.5 to .Net 4.0 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: and of course, they are side by side, not upgrades, so yo have to choose. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: are they compatible? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: you can use any of the versions, sure, but they are not internally compartible. That is, 4.5.x is not an upgrade of 4.0 T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: i meant the different versions of 4.5. interesting. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: i knew that 2/3/3.5/4 were side-by-side installs T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: I haven't found any difference in the 4.5.x versions. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: the MISL seems to be the same. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: do you think that someone at 40 can train himself to be a decent system manager? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: sure T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: why not? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: and would this someone need something like a microsoft cert? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you have the will to learn, then sure. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: but would someone find the will to hire? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: become an independent. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: if you know what you're doing, you will get hired T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: the only problem you face is that at 40 they might not want to pay you entry level. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: or they might want to pay you entry level? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: do you need certifications/diploma that are supposed to be standard? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: depends on the role T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: their idea is to get a PFY cheap and let them grow with the company. I would go with a contracting company. That is a company that gets contract for support and send their own people out.They'll take you in a heartbeat. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: sometimes those assignments can last years so you are practically an employee of the target company. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: what's pfy? T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: the main difference will probably be that you earn more :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: Pimply face youth :) T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: oh... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so not too impossible then T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: if you like it, go for it. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SantAard Anaristos grins evilly at Arcidayne. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nowadays it's entirely normal for people to have 3-4 entirely separate careers in their lifetime T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so getting into a new field at any age isn't unusual T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: absolutely T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: people are going back to school at 50+ T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I had enough of my field at 39... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: they work at a job 20 years, retire and go back to school. Then start a new carreer. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: it's also pretty normal to find people with non-IT backgrounds in IT departments. Last one I worked in, actual IT people were outnumbered about 4 to 1. T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so If I get fired ... I am going to look for something else T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my mother-in-law just got her bachelors in CJ and masters in psychology, and is thinking about going for doctoratel T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: hopefully soon T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: that's an expensive options...coupld do that too..but 3-4yrs and without income with a babygirl...nooooo T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: she did that using online courses while working T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: hmmmm... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: that's the new trend, online Us T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: the other thing I could potentially look at is big data...I used to be an econometrician out of school... T3/r7/2014-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: zillions of years ago T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: How do you do a pause between commands in Mush? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: wait isnt it? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I usually just type the command, hit enter... wait a few seconds, and repeat. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: wait(number) T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: wait(1) T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for mapper stuff, it's in the cexit example in the mapper help command T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: what neg said :D T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: thanks all! T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: is anyon e in the tech chan? seems the aard mush client wont let me chat. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: im here T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i cant see if people are responding when i use aardmush customized client. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like you have the echo turned off. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: maybe, i'll check. right now im more interested in getting the client runnin g in Arch. been slowly migrating to Linux ever since i built my desktop gaming rig 6 months ago. almost all games play with minor issues. anyways, WINE refuses to run the client exe file. nothing happens at all. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: did you follow the guide? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: yes. i believe it to be a wine issue. best guess T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: hmm, can't say i've had more than a font issue running mush on wine, on several distros T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: which version are you running? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: you know Archers, got to have the latest everything. no idea what version. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: lol, truth. might be fast enough for me to just spin up a vm to check it out. 64bit? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: are you new to linux? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: relatively, yes. i went against the advice of a friend and made Arch my first "official" distro. was nvr serious before on learning it. its been an uphill road, but 10 months into it, ive learned alott. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you will learn alot, but other distros would be much easier to use for someone new to linux T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: before i get too far - if you start mush from the console do you get much feedback from wine? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: let's keep it at this: i prefer the challenge and learning experience. felt like ubuntu/mint were spoonfeeding. got to stay stimulated olr i get bored. ADHD or w/e, lol. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: never tried running it from the console. doing a bit of maintenance work in windows right now. have to reboot. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: so uh, 64bit? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: does UEFI make a difference? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: not past booting T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: didnt think so either T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i had to get a bios mod to disable secure boot in bios. just to install Arch. a-holes at MSI and their weird mobos. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: most distros have signed loaders now, shouldn't have needed to do that T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: well i wanted to unlock the overclocking options...... T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to AnonVendetta. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: OC = bad idea? lol. i love pushing the limits of my hardware. even if it burns out quicker T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: totally destroyed 4 CPUs last year. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: eh, it's not worth the time that a lot of people put into it, but within reason it's fine T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: i think you're either doing it wrong, or doing it very right. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i just try to push the limits too hard i guess. i have a penchant for wrecking PCs. if you want your hardware to work dont let me touch it. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: been trying OCing in linux too but it seems the process is a bit different than windows. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i like to use 100% of my cores' potential at all times. no wasted resources. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: i've been overclocking for over a decade, haven't broken a CPU yet. wore one out so far that i couldn't run at stock volts/clocks any more, but by that stage motherboards were getting hard to find anyway and there were heaps of cheap cpus on the market. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i guess the reason i break them is because i dontgo a little at a time. i just jack stuff up all the way and see what happens. dont have enough patience for the slow methodical process. any better boards for OCing then MSI? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: i've mostly dealt with asrock, gigabyte, asus. they've all got good boards and bad boards T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: moved from Intel/NVIDIA to AMD/Radeon with my new build. i think AMD makes better processors. but Radeon isnt quite as good for gaming. except the high end models. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: which WM are you running? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: openbox T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: and xfce. jumping between the 2. the less resources my WM uses, the more i can allocate for other stuff. to hell with overbloated KDE. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: xfce runs smooth on my netbook, it went from being impossibly slow with windows 7 to very useful again with Linux T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: right now i run games in a separate X server, for increased FPS. andif game crashes it wont wreck the WM/desktop. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: I only run text based games because <3 them :D T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: best FPS nycta :D T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: fave game i play right now is DayZ Standalone. online zombie horror survival MMO. I play a ranger, go round killing bandits and helping the newbies with supplies. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: it's not overly resource heavy either. i can play it near max settings with little lag. but its not well optimized for AMD, so i suspect performance would be better if i had Intel/NVIDIA. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: rebooting for Windows Updates, BRB. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: any way i can get Aard MUSH to remember username/pass so i dont have to type it every time? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: alt+2 T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnonVendetta Tech: i keep my drives encrypted so security is no real concern. and unique user/pass for all accounts T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: ok, took me a while but i got there. grabbed arch, did base install, enabled multilib, installed xorg, openbox, slim, xterm, wget, unzip, wine. unzipped mush, ran wine MUSHclient.exe and it all just worked. looked as ugly as hell, but it worked. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: obligatory screenshot: http://imgur.com/gMqtDM9 T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: looks great :D T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan smiles happily. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Hi guys, getting a serious error when trying to install Bast minimoon plugin, specifically that it won't install. Am running MUSH on mac using wine. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: the error i'm getting is... T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Run-time error Plugin: miniwin_moonbot (called from world: Aardwolf) Immediate execution cannot open Z:\Users\Josh\Documents\Games\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\luapath.lua: No such file or directory stack traceback: [C]: in function 'dofile' [string "Plugin"]:154: in main chunk [WARNING] Z:\Users\Josh\Documents\Games\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\miniwin_moons.xml Line 398: Error parsing script (Cannot load) T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Would love some help T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nazar Tech: from the error, it's looking for a luapath.lua in your plugins directory and is not able to find it... may be it's a dependency T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: any idea how i can get around that? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nazar Tech: you need the luapath.lua file in your plugins directory. I just checked my installation and it has that. I am not sure if it came with mushclient or if it was in the bast plugins somewhere T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: AH, good thinking, lemme look in the ziperoonie T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: that got it T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I'm getting "No point doing this while you are speedwalking." error whenever trying to mapper goto with AardMUSH. Any ideas? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: mapper walkto still works T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: do you call mapper goto in a speedwalk? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or cexit.. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Just typing it into the command line T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But one of your exits can have a mapper goto T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't have any cexits that do "mapper goto "? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: try mapper where for the room id you are having issues with.. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it'll tell you what path mapper is trying... T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Actually yeah, it is just for that one room. lemme see T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Oh, hah, I figured it out. One of my portal commands is trying to execute an alias I have in MUSH. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: didn't realize it checked aliases T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Trying to figure out the best way to get around this: I want it to do "mapper goto " whenever I type home, but I also have "home" set up as one of my portals. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Well, I guess I could use "home lksjdf" as the portal command, but that seems kind of hackish. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: heh, I got hom going to manor, and home to aard hotel, not very clean T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: why not just macro the two to function keys, like f4/f5 T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: because I've been typing "home" for 10 years :P T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Train yourself to type 'mhome' for your manor. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: do you ever type out home portal? if its the mapper don't really matter what you call it right, its called by mapper. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the home portal one? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nazar Tech: can you call an alias within another one in mushclient, if so how? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Easiest way is send to execute T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using the drop-down about 2/3rds of the way down the left side T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nazar Tech: thanks! T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Madcatz nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I just changed my home portal to "home lwkejrlwe" T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That seems... well... T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is that portal, though...seems there would be a more-appropriate name for it than random T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I have a mapper portal set to go to my manor using the home command. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: But I also have an alias for "home" to do "mapper goto " T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: those two can't coexist T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have it use "hom" T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Oh okay, so I logged out and lost the 3moons mini window, it's got them back again so MB plot works but the mini window isn't there T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what I type when I don't want my home alias firing T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: shrugs, why's that better than home lwjkerwe? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it doesn't look stupid ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Less letters, less chance of forgetting what your home portal command is... T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it follows normal convention of being able to abbreviate commands T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I never have to type the command, Arcidayne; only the mapper does T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's why I said train yourself to type 'mhome' :p T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, I agree with changing the mapper's version T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well then, what Abelinc said. :p T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Nods, but I've typed home for 10 years. Don't feel like making myself type something else T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: In any case, works fine for me. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe hell, yesterday on an alt, I typed /dune-starwars-portal to get to omentor ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I leave old aliases working on renamed areas cuz the fingers know what the fingers know T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tunxis Tech: now that's geeky T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Haha. I think it's much easier to change typing habits by one letter than most people think. My report script used to use 'report', did that for a couple years. Now it uses 'treport'. :p T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I can't type the word "not" without an e on the end nowadays T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my kid was watching me play a month or so ago and wondered why I kept typing "not", and I had to explain it being an abbreviation for note T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: lazy T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oop. laz T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there are a ton of similar things, where when I'm typing at work, I have to remember context and delete what my fingers consider to be the next few characters from aard T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Anyone know how I can force the MB window to be shown? it has the plots? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try mb show T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: spams my screen but not a window T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does it spam your screen with T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: a whole load of blue text T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that text is the important part...try putting it on pastebin T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's erroring out, and that text tells where the error is in the script T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: http://pastebin.com/KqpE5phP T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: thanks for helping abe! T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, try mb debug T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: http://pastebin.com/E0YncuQc T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: and now http://pastebin.com/KXNq0th7 T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, type that last one again to turn debugging off T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: it set on, then it's started spamming blue stuffs T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: that was the last link, a debug message T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: each tick it's spitting that blue message out, assuming beasue it's trying to update the window. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it looks like he doesn't have "show" as a command in that miniwin plugin, so show became showvars T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: when I type mb windows, under shown it says false, how can i set that to true? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and mb print has info on all 3 moons? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: yup T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Black=10 Grey=20 White=35 T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does mb toggle do anything? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: same as mb help T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: guess I could try a reset T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: as in a MB reset T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, can't hurt, although it will need time to re-see the moons again before knowing T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still on "todo" list for that plugin is the ability to show the window before everything is known T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: might wait till after this coming 3 moons, thanks abe T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: got it MB help shows the objects moon and moonwin_moonbot_help, mb moons show got it T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexos Tech: Trivia on the Gametalk channel in five minutes. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: what is the character used to reference variables on mush ? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: @ T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: @ isn't it? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: doesn't seem to work T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends on how you're trying to access them. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In Script form, it's GetVariable("variablename") T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: wear olditem T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: wear @holditem T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: check the box that says "expand variables" T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: oh, on command line T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: sorry, my default trigger references the input variables as %1, %2 T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes on command line T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: You'd have to either use a scripting prefix and script functions, or use a plugin T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: or an alias, rather T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: can you use that syntax within an alias ? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: yes, as long as you check the expand variables box T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, i'll try that, thank you T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: is there a slick and easy way when i addnote to mapper to make the link clickable . because im lazy. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Considering a note can contain any text, it'd be hard to know what to do with the click T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: I was reading something about using the mapper to help explore areas. Anyone do that? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: mapper unexplored here saves all kinds of time T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's not perfect (it can miss certain exits) but it definitely helps. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: tells me unknown command T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: especially if you've tried to explore continents and missed a room or two T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: what client are you using? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: I thought mapper was a part of the MUSHclient *scratches head* T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's part of the aard MUSHclient package T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: it is a part of the aardwolf version, at least T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: It acts like its not in my system path (If I were trying to run a normal program from a command window that is) T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: is it a plug in? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty much everything in MUSH is a plugin... T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: have you disabled any plugins? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: not on purpose T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you using "regular" mushclient, or the aardwolf package? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: is your installation particularly old? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: aardwolf version from the website T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: maybe end of November T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: and I am using the winkle plugins OK, so that is what is weird T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most of winkle's stuff won't work without the mapper...you sure you typed "mapper unmapped" correctly? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and make sure that in "game -> configure -> aliases", that Enable Aliases is checked T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: OK, "mapper unmapped" worked T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: but mapper unmapped here doesn't? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: it should do the same but restricted to the area you're in T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: now I'm really confused b/c it was a different mapper command that wasn' T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: I'm in "Swordbreaker's Hoard" for the first time. When I run "mapper unmapped" it gives me the unexplored info for other areas T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it should T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should list all areas with unmapped exits T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: is there a mapper command to help me explore the area I'm in? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: try "mapper unmapped here" again T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper unmapped here T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yoost D - you guys are awesome. Thanks! T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "here" limits it to your current area, and actually lists the unmapped exits rather than just the count T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: thanks again! I wasn't trying to be thick! T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: it'll only show visible directional exits that you haven't been to, won't help with hidden doors or portals/cexits T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: and maze/nomap rooms might show up in the list too T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: I copied over my copy of MUSHclient from my desktop to my laptop, with a much smaller screen size. I see all the miniwindows except for the mapper. Is there any way to move the mapper back to the current screen, or at least find it somewhere? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: reset aard T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one word T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: ah. Neat... but it killed ALL my miniwindow re-sizes and moves. Anything less drastic I could try in the future? T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: worked great though, so I'm not really complaining. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: not that i know of, just makes you have to set up the layout again the way you like it T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing easy...the other way would be to delete/move/rename/edit the "state file" T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: state files are in a folder, named for the stupid-long world ID and the stupid-long plugin ID from the header of the plugin file T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shame things weren't more simple. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: well, resetaard has to call something... I'll see if I can dig for it in the large list of plugins. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: grep to the rescue! T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd love to be able to look at the state files and know precisely which one I can delete without having to spend 20 minutes looking. T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that won't really help you... T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you might be able to move all the windows on your laptop before the coping over, save the state then copy over T3/r7/2014-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's in every plugin that ships T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: y i cant xrt Sendhia? T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: because senhia is in vidblaine T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: sendhia* T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: i xrt other areas in vidblaine T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: like where? T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: ill find name T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Any alternativei to mudlet for linux? Getting tired of figuring out this miniconsole crap T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: tinyfugue? mushclient on wine? T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: tintin T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Yeah I looked at tintin, perl is definately desireable T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Rather not bother with wine...going to setup a windows box one of these days T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: mush allows scripting in perl btw. T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: kk T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: yeah but not natively linux is the downside T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: If this new job was not so demanding time and brain wise I'd be more inclined to persist but ugh, enough IT all day every day lol T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan nods. T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Perl is indeed lovely, it's like the bacon of coding T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: in that you use too much of it and feel bad about it afterwards? T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: hah! T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Is python fun? I've never done that one T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: yeah. it's kinda like new-perl, in that there's libraries to do pretty much anything you want. i'm not crazy about whitespace having meaning though. T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: ah cool, thanks for the comparison T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: i pretty much only use perl when maintaining old scripts. it's just as good, but i'm not familiar enough with it T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: and, at least in the linux/windows worlds, python is everywhere and perl... isn't. T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: actually, that's a lie. there's plenty of perl but not on new developments T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: eventually I'll have to learn powershell ... :( and do the ungodly horrific cross-breeding type acts T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belgaer Tech: is there another android client besides blowtorch T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: when comparing in Lua, i know == means equal to, but what symbols are used for not equal to? T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: ~= T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thank you. T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: This might help: http://lua-users.org/wiki/ExpressionsTutorial T3/r7/2014-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: nice. thank you. T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koyani Tech: How can we increase the mapper cexit waiting time?? T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: mapper help exits will tell you all you need to know T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: add a wait(time) to your cexit T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koyani Tech: Thank you T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: adding a wait(time) may not be what he's looking for... T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: might not... but might be too. T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koyani Tech: it is!! T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, wasn't what was asked about ;-) T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torskman smiles happily. T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: he got help, that's all that matters in the end =D T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: what is start room for vidbian? T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: Vidblain T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Does it take that much effort to runto vidblain and see yourself? T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: there is no set starting room, you enter at a random location in the continent. T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: i end up with different rooms T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: that's what random means :) T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: ok T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: if you have a specific area to go to, type help for it's coordinates, then type coordinates and navigate. Though with practice you won't need to do that. T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: how i use cordinates to run? T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: math T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: you compare your target coordinates with the coordinates where you are and you walk to match the target coordinates. T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: you mean manual move T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: the grid starts at the top left (northwest) T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: as in run 15e4s T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: no other way to make life easy :) T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: you're learn of other ways, but a low level, that's about it. T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: also, this conversation should have taken place on the question/answer channel. T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: sorry T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SantAard Anaristos Tech: no problem, just remember that's the place to ask questions :) T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Empsahan Tech: i hope answer with xrt but end with manual run :) T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: Running into a problem on Windows 8.1. I think it's a 2-part problem. First problem, IExplorer will not open. Thinks about it, but never opens a screen. Second problem, computer will not run any of the self-diagnosing or auto fixing programs, running a trouble shooter gives this error 'scripted diagnostics native host has stopped working'. AVG free and Malwarebytes fully updated no virus/malware. Worked fine yesterday when I shut the computer down. I also tried going turning off IExplorer, rebooting, turning back on, rebooting, same problem. T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: can you open IE in it's safe mode? If you can it may be an addon issue T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: maybe a linux install iis needed? T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: i ran the command 'iexplore.exe -extoff' which starts iexplorer without addons, to the same result T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: I can try restarting in safemode, but I believe it will yield same result T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: Reset IE In Internet Options In Control Panel T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: did you try the suggestions here... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318378 T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: Yes, that's the turn off, reboot, turn on, reboot T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: i'll brb, going to try safe mode. T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: Ended up doing a system "refresh". Some of the system files had been corrupted. Seems to have fixed the problem T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: good to hear T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weida Tech: is it possible to invoke an alias from another alias in mudlet? T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mangekyou Skyris Tech: got a question, in my writing tab in mushclient all of a sudden myfont for typing has changed and not quite sure how to bring up font options for my writing tab , ive tried a few things but not going well T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: entry bar? T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mangekyou Skyris Tech: yeah T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: entry bar?tech right click in the bar, world config T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: then font T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: is you do it in the output window, will change the font there T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mangekyou Skyris Tech: doesnt seem to be font in world config T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: 2/3 of the way down? T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mangekyou Skyris Tech: wasnt reading properly was in output T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: does anyone know how i can make the mapper extender map move again its frozen in once spot and everytime i move it wont change around T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: c heal blind? T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetest Keliandra Tech: mapper update T3/r7/2014-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any C# gurus around? I have a question about handling network connections T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: wow any math geeks wanna really geek out? anyone heard of numberphile? https://www.youtube.com/user/numberphile/playlists awsome. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: They found out that a rubics cube can be solved in 20 or less moves from any starting position, crazy T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: does anyone know what I have hit that no longer allows me to type in the browser. when I try it asked me what color a T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: which browser? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: mush T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: mush the client that you download? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: your ctrl or alt key might be stuck. try pressing each of these and see if it helps T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: It is working! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!* Go Amya!!! Lackluster Lachdanan cheers her on. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: yay! you might want to clean out your keyboard if that keeps happening in the future T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: Don't clean the keyboard... that's where all the emergency food crumbs live! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: it's probably just software. windows gets confused from time to time T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: oh, could be T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoost Tech: keyboard leavins is better than toaster leavins T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: xD i'm afraid to look inside the toaster T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: does anyone here know where i can find a list of options and commands muds and aard use through telnet, btw? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: commands T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: (telnet commands) T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: (not game commands) T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: ah, this was given the other day but i've forgotten already... T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: should i try the second page on google? (does such a place exist?!?!) T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: gmcp? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: gmcp isn't part of the telnet spec. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: http://cryosphere.net/mud-protocol.html T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: xD muds have their own things they use on top of the telnet ones T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: any luck remembering, lach? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: if only abe was here T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: i'm looking through all the commands :D T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: xD game commands or telnet ones? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: game commands T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: sounds fun ^_^ T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: tehpers: Have you tried 'help telnet'? There's a link on there for a webpage. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: oh i didnt notice that O_O thanks! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: maybe it was just help telopts, after all... T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: do we go with the rtfm jokes now, or after you leave? :p T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: x_x sowwy T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: i be stoopid xD T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: eh, we all are at times. Just don't exceed 5 minutes of stoopid a day. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: i try not to ^_^ well, at least while im at home... T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: there is also 'protocols' to see what you've got enabled. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: alright, thanks T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: i'll keep that in mind with the thing im working on T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: probably just determines what protocols you have from options though T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: huh, im using mush but xterm is apparently not enabled. maybe theres a setting? XD T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: yeah. xterm T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: just type xterm T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: oh derp x_x T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: has it been 5 minutes yet? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: do it. SEE ALL THE COLOURS! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dolt makes hundreds of magical colors with a wave of her hands. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: wow, it's beautiful ^_^ T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: "help xterm" :) T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: COLOURS!!! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: yeah, i saw xD but apparently skipped the top T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: <-- doesn't use linux T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: you can use X on windows :D T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: yeah but most windows users never even see command prompt xD T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: only now days, back in the day of DOS or windows 3.1 T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: that's a scary thought... I try not to think about it. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: maybe someday the consoles will be revived and take over! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: console is still king in plenty of places. home computing is not one of them. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: I deal with servers all day... I rarely touch the GUI. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: i envy people like you, not needing to move your hands to reach for a mouse every 5 seconds :/ T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: look up gvim. AWESOME editor, and ported to Winders. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: everyone knows emacs is superior to vim T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan ducks defensively. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: I like emacs. It's a lovely operating system. Too bad it doesn't include a decent editor. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to OhNoNotAgain. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: A guy I worked with opened vim in a telnet sesesion INSIDE emacs. I tried getting him fired for that, just due to the fact that it hurt my head. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: s/telnet/ssh/ I'm sleepy. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: xD T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan goes, "Heh." T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: should learn to use just vim, because its on all servers, gvim is not on all installations T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: emacs is quite powerful tool T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: but i suppose you could just install it if your the admin T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: eh, it depends on my mood, i alternate between vim and nano when remoting T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: sometimes, i just don't feel very modal T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: IIRC you can use emacs just with one hand - it has a lot of shortcuts T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: if you have a keyboard with 12 shift keys, yes. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: just because you can do a thing, doesn't mean you should :P T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: like playing aard on the server console through ssh? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: you need a space cadet keyboard to use emacs to its full potential: http://world.std.com/~jdostale/kbd/SpaceCadet1.jpeg Check out the lower rows of keys on either side. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: heh, that's a beautiful keyboard T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: <3 that's amazing T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: i love where they put delete too T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: there was a lab at my college that had a few of those. It was the only time I actually enjoyed emacs. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TehPers Tech: oh, it looked like it was where the return/enter key should be XD T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: say again ? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: anyone know who has the snooze channel plug-in? finger ? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: snooze channel? what's that ? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Channel snoozer? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it snoozes channel for a length of time, then it turns it back on. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://code.google.com/p/a-few-random-aard-plugins/wiki/ChannelSnoozer T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thank you. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure thing :) That's a great plugin. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what does that plugin do? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Turns a channel off for a period of time (that you specify) then turns it back on. It's a great way to get out of an annoying conversation without forgetting to turn the channel back on later. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tech -h 5 T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I need to convert a MKV file to something that can play on a PS3. Needs to be AVI or MPEG, I think. Any free software I could use? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: DivX player doesn't want to convert it for some reason. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hang on, let me see what that converter is I have T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: handbrake might work T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: Freemake video converter T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's the one, thanks Zetkax T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Oo I forgot about Handbrake, thanks T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Need me some DIE HARD. Best Christmas movie T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I watched that last night :D T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: oh good call, Die Hard! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: if a local theater did a december showing of die hard, I would totally go T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: probably one of the best/most overlooked christmas movies T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: does PS3 support .mp4 files? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: google it. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I tried T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: I would assume it would, or avi. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: avi I know it does T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: why not just try to play one? wouldn't it be faster? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: convert it to avi :P T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: its not like trying to play an unsupported file time is goign to break anything T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: Shhh.. dont ruin the fun T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: lol make him wait like an hour converting then find out oh it can play it T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: exactly! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: well trying to play an mkv didnt work so I'm watching a different movie. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, there was the one time I tried to play an unsupported file type on my PS3. Wound up wiping the entire thing... had to reinstall and whatnot... set me back about $150. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ask North Korea T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: and DivX media player couldn't stream HD without it being choppy T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Watch it on a laptop with VLC T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Divx, that's something I haven't heard about in a long time! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, a North Korea joke. How original. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: hes trying to make it so he can watch on ps3 T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Silly, a PS3 doesn't even have a screen T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: North Korea made a joke!? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stroke My Redwood laffs at Birdbrain Metria. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes. His name is Kim Jong Un. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: they have full specs of anything sony's T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Rumour is it that it was an inside job. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pretty sure you could ask Sony long before you ask North Korea. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daddius scans the room looking for Rumour. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I just can't believe why they have to do things that way. I have a Synology NAS superunderpowered that it's perfectly capable to stream anything and everything to TV and stereo... T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And they hacked the motion picture, not the electronic, side of things. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: Rumour is it was Rumour T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: that's what they want you to think Arci... T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: VLC can stream to other devices, can you use that to stream it to your PS3 so you can watch it on the beeg screen? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: rumor is Rumour has 2 TPs for me courtesy of Lexos... T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ullin laughs diabolically...Muhahahaha! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: is PS3 Sony T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: Sony Playstation. I would guess so. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yes all play stations are products of sony T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: Nort Korea will start produce clones soon, flood the market with cheap PS3 clones and games...and destroy capitalism T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daddius lifts a rock and finds Zela underneath! T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: partnering with XiaoMi most likely T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: so (Arcidayne), a PS3 is a unreliable purchase as attempting to play an unsupported file may result in a PS3-wipe (add this important caveat to the "bash Sony" file) T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: how long you been under there??? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: to build a SonJi PPS3 T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: if the North Korea clones are far more reliable than the Sony PS3, may be a worthwhile purchase T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zela reminisces of the the good days when pirate-hacked software was more reliable and far more user-frirndly than the commercial-version T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Imfocom games were unrriendly and atrociously bad to the hardware -- the floppy disk media was extremely bad that using the floppy 'd wreck the floppy drive heads by coating them with crud -- also wore out the floppy - see the usage wear T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: i purchased the Infocom games, but immediately hacked them into a nondestructive media (put them on hdrive) and used a piratesoftware-utility that provided a far more user-friendly interface -- without those hacks and utilities, i'd not 've purchased as many infocom games as i did. Also i learned to delay until the WalkThru books were published (or hints and spoliers were available online) before buying more infocom T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: can anyone tell me how to call aliases from one plugin from a different plugin? Trying to run 'Execute("mapper goto ")' but the literal text is being sent instead of being evaluated as an alias. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Set Send to to "Execute" T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or are you editing the XML directly? T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: directly T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: One sec. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: I thought that Execute was supposed to act as though I had typed in the command line, as opposed to Send, but it's not working for me at all. /sigh T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: send_to="10" T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: gah nevermind T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: I had two aliases. I fixed the second and was testing the first... T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Kathan buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: At least you found it :) T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: thanks for the help. :) T3/r7/2014-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: In the line 'res, gmcparg = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval", "char")' what do I replace char with if I want all the gmcp data? I tried leaving it blank, but that threw an error. T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: where in firefox do you set up proxy usage? T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd imagine under the Options -> Connection T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: ahh, thanks, options, advanced, Connections :D T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: how do you use bast eq stuff? T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: anyone? T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: it's complicated. actually, not really :P T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: the help files help a lot. the main thing is to do eqdb refresh before adding an item, and if it gets id'd when you try to add it, you'll need to add it again T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: you need to use item serial numbers, which you can get by using id or eqdb lu. T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: finally groking mudlet / lua, yay for my xmas gift to self T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Groking..... T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Reference to Robert A. Heinlein's book, "Stranger in a Strange Land." T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: not sure if I want to bother learning the mapper yet though, ugh, glad to save and load variables to start T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: zMud seemed way easier T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: so im using sharptracker, anyone know how i would make a trigger to do 'lastdouble' to gt. because a trigger just sending to world returns invalid command. T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: So, will Tizen be able to make a dent in Android or iOS? T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: does any one have expierence with chromud? T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: no T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: or understand why i would be banned when connecting thru a new client T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: banned? T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: does anyone knows if there's going to be a cast button in Firefox PC? I quite like it in chrome...a lot of nonsense requirements removed T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes. There will also be a "Like on Facebook" button, and a "Order Pizza" button. It's going to be *awesome* T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: thinking more of sending TuneIN to my stereo from PC without needing a phone... T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ooo, where will it order pizza from? T3/r7/2014-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Pizza Hut. That's the not-so-awesome part. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: anyone use bast eqset? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i can't seem to add an item to the eq set, and i think its because the id is too large? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: which doesn't seem right but im not sure heh T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ... you're right, that's not quite right. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: what's the error you're getting? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: Could not figure out one of the arguments, please try with other arguments T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: how are you typing it, then? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: also argument 1 is not a valid serial T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: should be eqset add T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: so eqset add 12345678801892814 lwrist T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: eqs add serial T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: make sure you aren't trying to use keywords. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: im using the id of the item, says its not valid T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: but i am iding the item and copy and paste the id T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: what's the id number? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: can you copy and paste what you're using as a command into tech? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: 1384098383 T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: and what slot? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: eqs add 1384098383 T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: above T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: type: eqs add 1384098383 T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I believe you should be using the keyword and not the id T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhNoNotAgain Tech: you need an item slot T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, you use the ID number, not keyword. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't need an item slot, if it's the only slot of its kind (body, torso, et al). T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Yeah but from what he said if I read him right he's using T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: so T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: eqs add 1384098383 above, doesn't work T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: gives me argument 1 is not a valid serial T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, you might try reinstalling, then. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: does anyone have any idea why my xrt northstar takes me d10w from the entrance room and not to the entrance itself? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: okay reinstalled the plugin still getting same error T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: xset mark here -- use that in the first room. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: the plugin takes you to the first explored room. :p T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: tried that Arcidayne, still doesnt work T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: the problem is it doesnt take me to the area itself T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: it keeps me on the continent... T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Do you have a custom exit anywhere within the speedwalk that takes you there? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne is at work, and slow to respond. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne looks at Cryos ponderingly. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not sure what your issue is, then... :\ T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: Make sure you're also using the eqdb plugin T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: good point. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: by the way, I've used similarly long id numbers - pretty sure there's no set limit on length of them. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: so no fix for spaming commands when I hit delete T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: disconnect/reconnect T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: still doesnt help T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: I hit space then delete T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: and you spam commands? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: if I type something and meds up it deletes one character and leaves a new form of the word T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: like this T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: indignatiorindignatioindignatiindignatindignaindignindigindiindin T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: deletes one letter each time and adds the rest of yhe word after T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: sounds like you have a text expander or something T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: yes it does its so annoying T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: disable the text expansion. :P T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: dont know how T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: on blowtorch T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: oh, no clue then. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: im screwed T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: do you have autocompletion on? for text. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: yup but its a suggestion T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: turn off suggestions, see if that helps. if not, delete it and download the actual aardwolf one T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: ive had better luck with the aardmud one vs original blowtorch T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: how do I get the aard version T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: its in the play store T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: look up aard rpg T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: thats what I got T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: then reinstall cause something somewhere went wrong :P T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: no I dont brb T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: still does it T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: having connection isses T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: might as well go back to blowtorch T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: 0h T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: is it possible to disable help coming up in mush when using F1 key ? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: ya T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: how ? is it complicated ? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: no, its a check box, let me find it T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: File>Global Preference> General Tab T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: ^ T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: found it thanks Turie and Redwood T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: just Turie :P T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gutted by the m$ xbox 1 outtages T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: never had these problems with standard pc games before all this stupid online stuff came around T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Tigernuts. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Will Sony and Microsoft continue to have hack issues? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: of course T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll only get worse, really T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wonder how long till "hacking" will become terrorism in the sense that the US will go in and "eliminate" the threat for good. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it already does consider it terrorism T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They're multimillion/billion dollar companies. They are in the entertainment industry. People will always want free stuff. So yes, there will always be someone trying to hack them. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and you can eliminate it for good with about as much effectiveness as you can eliminate actual terrorists T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you wanted to eliminate hacking, permanently, you'd have to sever the internet and any connections that aren't immediately local. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But that will never happen. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you could only get rid of it by disposing of the internet entirely T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Tigernuts. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: there is another way, T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: don't keep secrets, everything out in the open T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, that's likely T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nah, that doesn't do any good. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, wouldn't stop it T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hackers don't hack because of secrets T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Besides, it's not secrets they're always after. p T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or rather, not all hackers do T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Tigernuts. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: latest hack was a dos attack, not a theftr T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Some want ways to get free stuff. Others just want information. Still others want "free" by way of someone else paying for it. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: there are several forms of hacking: some are good, some are dubious, some are bad T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ok no currency and secrets? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, still wouldn't work. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: People still want information anyway. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: some forms of hacking provide a great public service T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Freedom of Information. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: well the information will be out there, hence no secrets, no need to hack for them T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: and no currency so no real gain from an attack T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hacking is also used to intimidation, disruption, or annoyance - nothing to do with gain T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: good hacking is: leaks that expose government corruption T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you'd be okay with your private information (name, social security number, address, phone number, mom's birthday, etc) out there to the public? No thanks from me. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne pats Zela on her head. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go put your tinfoil hat on again. The government heard you say that. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: is Aridayne a wannabe disciple in training of Tigernuts T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh please. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just because we share similar viewpoints does not mean I'm a "disciple". T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Besides, I was here first. :D T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's not to enjoy about M$ and Sony being hacked? T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's christmas! T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all the little overpriveleged turds who got xbox ones and ps4's for christmas get to call their parents names and throw their toys out of the pram T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for me, that's an added bonus xmas present T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: so bitter! T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tigernuts cannot lick his nuts anymore is why he is so bitter. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in this life you have to take amusement where you can find it :-) T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: So Lizard whatever is going after Tor now. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: that made no sense to me :( T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Lizard Squad is going after Tor to see if they can score some free stuff. T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: How do I delete a portal from S&D? :\ T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you delete the portal from the mapper, not S&D T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper help portals for details T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: mapper delete portal --> Remove the specified hand-held portal alias T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: mapper delete portal # T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: it's in the mapper help T3/r7/2014-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: ah, i was swapping word around. forgot about help files too... man im rusty. thanks folks <3 T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danuta Tech: is there a way to reopen the stats window in MUSHclient? just changed the font to 12 and it just disappeared T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: you can use resetaard to reset the default window positions, it could've moved behind another or off screen T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danuta Tech: thanks. i'll try T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what are the main reasons javascript won't work when it's called in a html document? T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: North Koreans T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: java isn't installed T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: java not installed where? T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Google and Microsoft are telling Oracle up yours. T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stroke My Redwood crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Turie. T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: java is a plug in.... www.java.com T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: When Oracle sued Google for the APIs that Google uses to make Android. The APIs are open source, Android is Open Source. So, you get why Google is saying up yours to Oracle. T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: lmao... T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: java is definitely installed in my browser if that's what you mean T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: java is a plugin T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: thats jokes T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: but the javascript won't load properly even on a browser with javascript working T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: javascript isn't even related to java T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dusty, Old Defines falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyone got anything insightful on the topic, I don't claim to know what I'm talking about which is why I ask here T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm reasonable sure the javascript is correct since I didn't write it, trying to embed the vanilla forums on a page T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: so whats the issue, javascript isnt working on any page? T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: site says you just paste the code which calls the javascript into your page, but nothing T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: javascript works fine if I go to someone elses website, so it's not an issue with my browser T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: but on my webpage the javascript doesn't load on any browser T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: so you're having a specific issue with somebody's poorly written script, or some arbitrary code you're pasting isn't working.... that has nothing to do with your browser etc T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I just figured there might be a top 3 main causes or something if we assume the javascript is correct T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: not really T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well, vanilla forums are pretty big, I'd be surprised if the 2-3 lines of code was incorrect T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the javascript itself clearly works because the forum works fine when it's not embedded in a page T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: my guess is however you're attempting to place or insert it in the document (html) is invalid T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: as soon as I try and embed it in a html document it doesn't load T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: where are you placing it in the document? link? T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: also if it relies on the presence of some other script or library, that'd be a prerequisite T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: ex. jqueery, or some other script being referenced in the header of the page, etc. T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: www.pokerweasel.com/testpage.html <-----not working when embedded www.pokerweasel.com/vanilla <----- working when not embedded T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah I established where the javascript code is located T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: and it calls it in the html document, there is no actual javascript within the html document where I've pasted it as far as I can tell T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: and I've visted the location where the javascript supposedly is and it's all there T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: what T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusty, Old Defines Tech: which part is the script in question T3/r7/2014-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: starting from where it says