T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'I'm so tired of trhe holier than thou republicans' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'as opposed to the holier than thou democrats?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'it's all the same bullshit my friend' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'none of them are on our side' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'and I wrote your attempt at a new clan' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'and you asked' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'careful' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'never said dems were incconcent...said they were the lesser of two' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'educate yourself' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'vote cthulu the only politician who wont lie to you!' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'say waht you will, we've seen in the past week what their agenda is/was' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'waste another wekk' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'same outcome' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'pass a clean bill' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'we know, you prefer blackmail' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'pass a clean bill' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'blackmail will only make you look ugly' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'the 2016 route is going to be fun' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'let the circus start' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'going to be a show' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'hell...already a show' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'take a look around' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'ask why' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'aww, i missed some creestux circus' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'rumours are that Google are going to move away from popularity and content matching as their primary search criteria' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'who says this is their primary at the moment?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how much they're being paid was a given' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and move towards what' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'in my experience, there search is heavily personalised anyway' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'actually, how much they are paid is perhaps not the best thing for google' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i guess the CIA is taking google in a different direction now' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I mean, you pay for the adverts right anyway' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'some odd metric that includes all the above, and some kind of measure that includes agenda and fact checking' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'thing is, Google tweak their algorithm all the time anyway' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and move towards what .. profit or bankruptcy (depending on whether the move generates cash and or loses searchers, market share, clients)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Google is becoming elss useful all the time, as it happens' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'everyone does. Things that look good in paper don't always pan out.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'i use Bing these days, not Google' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Microsoft isn't really any better/fair/honester than Google, and they have the same issues to address as Google does.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what Hanslanda said' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'microsoft Bing seems more user friendly and informative (than Google)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'bing just uses google too' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i already boycotted Google' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'i like Wikipedia - inexpensive encyclopedia - (no advertisements except when fundraising) ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Wikipedia is useful, if often inaccurate or biased' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hardly the whole of the Internet though' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'often inaccurate? lol' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'it has been consistently proven to be more accurate than standard encyclopedieas' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'there is some censorship bias on some controversial topics (in Wikipedia) (like pulling taffy to get at the information)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'sometimes i've seen like birthdays wrong, or height..but for most things i've sene it be fairly good' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'depends on what you're looking at, as you would imagine it's bad on living people, and things that are subjective anyway' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Wikipedia is quite reliable in fields where everyone agrees' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes, tinada, that's about it :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the height of celebrities (is often wrong, unless that includes the high=heals or shoe-lifts)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'who cares about the height of celebrities?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'women' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'sadly the answer is probably entirely too many people.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Gigglefluff nods at Emmanuel. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'how i view celebities depends on the height' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'it's an important issue' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I mean, you want to know who is standing on a box when on screen' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'why do short females wear high-heals -- if they avoided stress and ate properly growing up, they's not be as stunted' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'because short people are ugly AF' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'when it comes to science and facts, wikipedia will generally be accurate, for anything else it reports consensus. Consensus is not fact' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'actually high heals change the angle of the hip and make women look more "sexy" to men who have been culturally aclimated to such stuff.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'k' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'TN consensus may not be fact, but then it may be fact that its consensus' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'high-heels look horrid on a female -- they shape of the legs is unnatural, the curvature of the spine is distorted - looks uncomfortable' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'retail would apparently disagree with you loudly. Sex sells, and extensive research says high heels are sexy.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'high-heels detract from the sexiness -- unless you like trollops, wannabe prostitutes, transvestites ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's a distinction without a difference, swalec' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'let's be honest, Xyliz, that's a bit of a generalisation' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i agree in as far as high heels are stupid' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'short men detected..' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'sadly you are in the minority in thate opinion xyliz' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's why i don't wear them anymore' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'I think the bulges in wrong places sets transvestites apart.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'not really TN -- all "facts" have a degree of interpretation involved' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'fact. god is real.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'big boobs cause a face to look less pretty' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'usually facts are dictated by the person in charge' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: '...wat' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'for some facts, that degree is absolutely zero...' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'big boobs cause a face to look flabby' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but sure, that's a degree' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'indeed Gruagach, God is definately real -- it is what kind of real he is that is the question' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'the real that can do anything and interact at all or show show anything in this earth realm..' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'big boobs cause a female to look less intelligent' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'xyliz is so dumb lol' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yeah, but he's got small boobs' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's actually scientifically proven that sexy is driven by proportion. In other words, scientifically speaking, size does not matter. :P' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'boobies, mmmmm' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'l' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Hanslanda the "scientifically proven" thing there is a smoke-screen' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'big noses, big butts -- not sexy ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and a lie :P' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'all it means is that in one society that has been shown to be the case' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'there is no such thing as scientifically proven' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'anyone who claims there is doesn't understand science' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'different cultures look for different criteria' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'scientifically prove has a definition, Emm' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'let me guess, gravity is just a theory' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'proofs only work for analtyical sciences, math, logic, etc' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Emm, "proven" is a shorthand that many scientists use, in the same way that biologists use the phrase "design"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'thick lips on a white female are an eyesore' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and statistics?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'no proofs in statistics' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i think the problem xyliz has is no female wants to fuck him, so he builds up all these walls' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'statistics have signifigance' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'there are clearly proofs in statistics...' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'when the results of observation match the prediction from a model, with a degree of uncertainty of less than 5-sigma, that's a common definition of "scientifically proven"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'there are proofs about statistics, but not statistical proof' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Xyliz likes natural T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there are proofs, but those proofs rarely prove anything, and even more rarely prove what the person is trying to say that they prove :P' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I can prove easily that the upper quartile of any distribution is greater than or equial to the mean' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'well, not easily, but....' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'things can be scientifically disproven, but not proven' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'except in global warming, then they don't bother with things like proofs, or even observations' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'all you can say is that we have failed to disprove x.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Emm, this is just one theory of scientific advance, and not the only one' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'it is the only one that is valid' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'really, Emm. And what experiment would you perform to disprove that statement?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'hahaha' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'thats funny' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'global warming brings colder winters' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'global warming brings colder winters, hotter summers' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'global warming brings colder winters in some areas' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'lets not go there' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'stick to issues of importance' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'yeah because the single greatest threat facing humanity today is not of importance :)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'so does changing the position of the Earth as it relates to cosmic neighbors. A few degrees less tilt of our axis really fucks with climate.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'according to the UN, no, Hans, according to scientists, obviously' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'as does solar weather' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you want to save the planet, cut down the population and stop polluting the environment with toxic chemicals and genetically mutants' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'perhaps stop blowing each other up and causing tension/violence, that'll probably help the environment long-term' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'changing the tilt to face the sun differently may change things -- is winter when the earth is nearest the sun, or furthest from the sun, or at mid range' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I have been doing some research on peatland production, I think we can get carbon sequestration on the scale of gigatons/year for less than $10/ton' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but blowing each other up is part of the first thing you said we could do to help the environment!' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'meaning it could be paid for with a lower tax on gasoline and coal than already exists' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'change the rotation and boom the oceans currents change and its winter for all 572 days of the year' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and then the precession changes the angle of the tilt' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'changing the rotation isn't going to add 207 days to the year GF' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'peatland requires fresh water, where's that come from? I could use some' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'even the Earth's orbital path around the sun wobbles due to inertia.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'there are areas where fresh water isn't a significant issue' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'when apple sells ipods at high prices, the cost of the carbon sequestration is mostly irrelevant' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'we have tons of fresh water here in minnesota, ill mail you some arnica' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'isn't sending livestock through the mail against the law?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'yes' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'honestly in the us we should start by getting rid of New Orleans and everything else in that area and divert the Mississippi river delta into creating peatlands' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'can't mail the water, then. Far too many state birds would get through.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Just IM it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'na, send it as snow.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i feel the same about London, Emm, fucking drown it, no loss' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that makes you as evil as HAARP!' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'london is a city of magic and wonder spledid and well kept a city like no other!' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'london is a shithole fool of crooks' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's opinion and subjective yet justifiable fact. I have no citations' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'just shake the west coast until the crazy falls off like dandruff.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'seriously though the waters of the Miss when they get to the ocean are so polluted with fertilizer that they cause all sorts of problems' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'but they would be ideal for creating peatlands' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'and how does fertilizer affect peat production?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and the lowlying area around the delta region would be perfect for it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'would probably be easier to use the Colorado to fix desertification.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'it helps primary production in the first several stages of soil engineering' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'we already drain the Colorado for that' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and unlike the Colorado the Mississippi doesn't run out of water before it gets to the delta.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'deserts will retreat as CO2 levels increase' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and especially if forests are replanted' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'I do my share, but new trees need water' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'got tons of water here, which is why water prices are sky high and there are frequent hose-pipe bans' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'there was an ecological disaster when the USSR diverted water from the northern lakes to the cotton fields (was incompetently done, destroyed the ecosystem surrounding the lakes, and likely salted the cotton lands' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'so diverting the Mississippi is likely to be another ecological disaster ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i agree with xyliz, leave it alone' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'well the mississippi is already an ecological disaster' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'you have heard of the dead zone right?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'anyway thats just one possible approach' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'humans are terrible at largescale interventions in habitat' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nature is best at fixing it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the point is that there are much cheaper ways to reduce net carbon emissions than CCS and fuel switching.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'we knew that in the 70s, when environmentalists nearly killed off Yellowstone.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'carbon emissions are largely irrelevent, emissions per person will reduce as we develop better technologies' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the problem is the per person bit - too many people' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'is it time for soylent green?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'yes, only permit intelligent folkk to breed' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it'll probably not come to that, though they're already pushing for people to eat horrid chemical derivative products' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'that's a problem that has to be fixed only with long-term solutions. Like building a grid of emission stations that infuse an infertilizing agent into the air we breathe...' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'just render infertile anyone on a government welfare program' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not permanently infertile' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i read something it must have been 5ish years ago that cited studies where it was shown less intelligent people overall have more kids once you take out some factors like religion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'scrap all child-specific welfare outside of education' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'unless they are poor down-on-the-luck too-honest geniuses' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's true, GF' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'I have no proof, not even a hint at a probable cause, but I am confident that human population will eventually turn out to be self limiting. That we will not like the conditions at the limit is a foregone conclusion.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'so your solution is eugenics tigernuts' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'social engineer, emm, not eugenics' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, more specifically it's generally less-successful people that have less children' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'arnica the world has a max population' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm not forcing people to die' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'you're not really going to convince anyone to not have babies, and between you and me I think the little people taking over during those times are clinically retarded.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'but if you trace the money literally every single person in the US and the UK are on government welfare indirectly' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the world's max population is many times what we have today' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'forced sterilization is quintessentially eugenics' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'isn't forced, emm' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the exceptions are the (irish) Catholics and the Jews -- they like large families ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'likely at least 2 orders of magnitude larger abelinc' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'would you want to live in a world of 900bn people, Emm/Abe?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'if we could get water where it wasn't, it would be no problem at all' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'why not?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it is, but it wouldn't be permanent. It'd be like birth control you breathe, with some sort of pill or treatment to deactivate it long enough to round out a belly.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Hindus like to breed -- give them food, they breed, as fast as possible' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'no I want to live in a world with 50,000 people, perferably in L5 or in a colony ship headed to another solar system.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'xyliz stop that line right now' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'were you brought up in a rural community, or suburbia/city, Abe?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'yeah no need to get racist' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'debate the better the chance of your kids dying the more kids you better have' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I've lived in both, tiger' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'which do you prefer?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Arnica, so you don't want to hear the facts backing up that premise (at least not here)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I'm in a pretty urban setting currently, but it doesn't matter, as there would still be both' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, there wouldn't' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'people thought there wouldn't be when we reached 1B too' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'in a world of 900bn people you would need food that doesnt take space to grow because there would be no land ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'for there to be rural and well as urban populations in a world with a much higher population, you would have to force the overwhelming majority of people to be urban' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the overwhelming majority of people ARE urban' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'when the energy shortage hits, there be lots of starving' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i suppose you could do a singapore and just build up' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'economics would drive it TN' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that would continue to be the case' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'buildings would get a lot taller, and likely deeper as well' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's been swinging more that way, Abe, and now people are forced by economics to be urban' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'but at 900bn that would mean for every person there would be roughly 100 in thier place' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'economics and policy' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'residing in Japan -- traveling like packed sardines in the subways and trains' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'as someone who was born and brought up in a rural community, who is being priced out of rural community, and hates urban sprawl, you're setting up prospects of war by forcing people to be penned up in cities' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, "prospects of war"...when isn't there? as if people need a reason' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nogs' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'travel by public transport in the urban areas -- a horror in peak rush hours' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'often better than driving in the urban areas' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you want people to have a decent quality of living, you must reduce population density' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'not true' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's necessarily true' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, it isn't' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it is' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: '3rd grade debate here' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'if you pack people in densely you need to provide them a place to unwind and be at peace otherwise there will be civil unrest. but all you need is a small park or a playground something along those lines.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, glad that you've provided evidence' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you cannot guarantee qualiy of living to people of rural backgrounds if there is no rural' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so at best you can guarantee a quality of living to the urban people., provided they're not so packed that they start killing each other' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there will always be rural, but "where I want to live" isn't "quality of living"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm afraid it is' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'be afraid all you want, that doesn't make it so' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'you can breed some of the rural out of people its not like the world explodes 100 times its population overnight' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'and 'where I grew up' isn't necessarily where you will live out your life' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'fine, then let's put you in a prison camp. There, you have a high quality of living' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I can't have quality of living unless I'm in a mansion...make it so!' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'permit females to breed only one live offspring (if the offspring dies, they get to breed again) -- special exemption for proven genuises (may breed more, if geniuses are being produced) ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'speak to animal welfare folks, they may disagree with you' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: '???' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'in the Tigernuts world, humans are animals ?!?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in reality they are, Xyliz' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i feel worse for animals than i do people...' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there is a compromise, you all go live in 200sq feet shoeboxes with rationed food and water' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'such a great song, from rex harrison's dr doolittle' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the rest of us who so choose can live in the country' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'except kids then theyre about the same' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'tigernuts it'd help if you weren't so obstinately ignorant in believing that you'd have to be in 200 sq foot shoeboxes' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'damn right, I am in a 800 sq ft shoebox' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'actually able they have some really really fantastic 300 sq/ft homes' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you have that many people and wanted to be fed, and wanted there to be rural land, that's what you 'd need' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'or if you'd realize that around 4 billion of the world's population is already in pretty close quarters already' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'abel*' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '4 billion of the world's population live in conditions that western society wouldn't consider "a good standard of living"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the entire population of the world would fit in texas if it was as densly populated as hong kong' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i cant believe that' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so if you want to play word games and consider "a good standard of living" to be "the standard of living they currently experience", then you're probably right' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'they'd likely die fast though, Texas is inhospitable' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'it may be a standard of living that is marginally better than their parents had in rural conditions in the same country' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You nod at Arnica. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in the UK, people are experiencing a worse standard of living to their parents' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Hong Kong is next to the water, not all of Texas is next to the water' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'debate that isn't the point' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Texas has 591 km of coastline' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the point is that you can fit a lot more people on the planet than what we have currently' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'bad analogies are .. bad!' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can fit 500 cats in Land Rover, doesn't mean you should' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Might be fun' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): IMWatching Abelinc wants to see that T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'YES you SHOULD put 500 cats into a range rover!!!!!' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'wrong Emm, dead wrong, dead dead dead, and maybe soon' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'with one clown' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sorry Arnica, David Cameron wasn't available' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'with a gerbil in a ball' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Harper?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'how many football players can you fit into a phone booth?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and with modern building techniques we could build apartment buildings tall and deep enough to give higher square footage per capita than current norms and still fit all the population in a smaller area than the current major cities' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'people in the UK won't live in skyscrapers, Emm' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'though preferably we would build mixed use buildings and have schools, work, and homes in the same building or neighboring buildings so people wouldn't need cars' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'then just make the whole UK Emm's peatland' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emm nods at Arnica. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'all that alleged education, wasted on Emm unable to perceive the big picture' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'what big picture xy?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'all I am trying to convey is that there are technological solutions to most of our problems' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SirCanada: 'where will food get it's nutrition from when the surrounding area is all buildings?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'from the same places we get it now?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'same place it gets it from today in NYC, sircanada' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'technological solutions may not be compatible with people, Emm' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'well, technology doesn't stand alone -- a full solution needs society' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'at which point you'll be needing to force compliance' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'those "technological solutions" are (yet) a fiction fantasy' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'i.e., Canada' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'force through economics' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I mean, most of problems related to over-population -- we've had the technological solution to that for years' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's morally no better than eugenics, Emm' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'plants are easily grown indoors and without soil. you could use solar on large buildings to power the lights' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'make a skyscraper appartment 20% the price of a flat of the same size and see how quickly people will move into them' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there isn't overpopulation, there's merely resource misallocation' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'why not grow the plants on the roof Gigglefluff?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emm nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'solar towers with algae beds surrounding them have been demonstrated' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'according to the old movies and projections of the early to mid last century, the populace is already supposed to be living like the Jetsons' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'because the roofs will be solar panels wind turbines, and the like :)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'it's possible Abelinc, but I think that we do have overpopulation -- I am not sure how you would prove this' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or, you could avoid all the problems by limiting and reducing the population' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'according to back to the future we should have hoverboards' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'what I think is clear, though, it that the population is rising, so I think we will have overpopulation at some point' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'reducing overpopulation requires no technology, no compromise, no compulsion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'swalec: how are you defining that? there are obscenely-more resources available than the populations require' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'limiting factor = energy And fusion has always been twenty years away. No more. Soon people, very soon.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'bullshit tigernuts' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you don't reduce population without compromise or compulsion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'ask china' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sure you do' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Abe, I think the issue is that most of those resources are there because of over-consumption of other resources, notably fossil fuels' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'again, bullshit' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'again energy' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'fusion is comming ?!? -- maybe in the form of H-bombs' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you can't get a date, so you don't reproduce...other people won't stop breeding like rabbits without compulsion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'iff we get workable fusion then I think that the situation changes' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not bullshit. Remove immigration from the mix and every western country would have populations that reduce on their own' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'oh, so you mean compulsion :P' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'fusion energy is a scifi fantasy' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'fusion is a pipe dream, space based solar power is the reliable technology of the future' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'any country where living standards have improved and the population has become wealthier, their birth rate has dropped' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you just like to put your compulsion in a prettier package :P' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Yes the first use of sustainable fusion will be weaponry, no doubt. But then it will spread to more agreeable uses.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'well, fusion or space-based solar power, which ever -- the point is that we do not have a renewable form of energy which we can produce in large volumes' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what compulsion is there?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'and which is acceptable to much of the population' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'that is because wealthier more educated people realise how loathsome they are and they refuse the breed as much - (insert laugh-track here)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you're forcing people to live where you say, and your "solution for overpopulation" is NIMBY, not population reduction, so you're just sticking your head in the sand and pretending that you're reducing population' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Xyliz said something intelligent - accident?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'controlling your borders isn't neither NIMBY nor is it sticking your head in the sand' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'people in wealthier countries tend to breed less because they don't need to have 5 children to give their genes the best chance of survival' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'when the discussion is world population, it is absolutely both of those, tiger' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'at least thats what the evolutionary psychologists say' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I think, Emm, it's actually because in wealthy countries, they educate women' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'talking of world population isn't helpful' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'that might be a better explanantion Swalec' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can't control world population, you can only control country's population' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and yet, talking of world population is exactly what you started this thread about' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'besides which, population density is the issue, not population itself' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'they breed less because Freedom 55 means something, but not with a lot of children' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so if you'd like to change the parameters, then make it clear that you're not answering the current discussion claims' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I haven't studied in intensely, but I believe there is reasonable evidence for this -- increasing wealth does not always result in education for women, so you can distinguish between the two' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you control population country by country then you will inevitable work towards a solution that works for the planet' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the issue wasn't population density, as you gave an absolute number for world population, not density' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'this is precisely why CO2 emissions will never be solved because people insist on a world-solution rather than a country-by-country solution' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that number is sustainable without changing population density beyond what is already experienced in some places' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you brought up the world, now you're running away from it :P' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but that's fine! because china has a growing population, UK shouldn't do anything about it's population explosion and therefore should suffer' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'new york city's density is almost twice hong kong's' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'bully for new york' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'depending on your definition of nyc abelinc' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Manhattan yes, the five bouroughs, I doubt it.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the US census bureau's definition' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'manhattan, that epitomy of affordable living' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'pollution and crime free utopia' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'or, your ever-accurate wikipedia's definition ;-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Visited Manhatte=an Tigernuts or just conjecturing?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'fucking hate cities, Arnica' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'nyc isn't in the top 50 most densly populated cities in the world' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'So, no?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you don't need to visit the sun to know it's hot' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'not top 50? how where does it stand in the first world..' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'paris is in the top 50' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'paris plus suburbs or merely Paris' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'presumably just Paris' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Ooh, learned a new word - demonym' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: '2.2 million people in 105 km2' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'for city "proper",NYC is 24th in the world...for city "metro", it's 8th in the world...' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'dunno where your "not in top 50" came from' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'wikipedia of course' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'so far, the same place your top 24 came from' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you mean like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_proper_by_population' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_proper_by_population_density' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the blessed truth is that the world population is expected to top out at 9bn' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if we can stop them coming here, all should be good' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'what is viewed as Toronto by tourists likely includes the neighbouring immediately adjoining mimi-cities' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yup, I was wrong...I switched modes from pop dens to pop' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Etobicoke, Mississauga, North York, Scarborough ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'nyc is probably pretty high on the list if you are looking at only cities with 5 mil plus or something' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Sydney (Australia) includes a lot of immediately adjoining suburbs' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'as hong kong is the one that had been mentioned its density is 6,537/sq km while nyc's is 10,724/sq km...paris being double that' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'what is a "demonym" -- perhaps something to add to the ad hominem vocabulary, or the "fire and brimestone" vocabulary' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i wouldn't want to live in any of those' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'though i'd happily live in Montana' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'good for you' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'bless his heart' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'but how many square kilometres are involved in those three cities' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but billions do live in them' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'good for them' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'some might even do so by choice' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'ultimately we need to wall off the cities, and people in the cities should be government by people who are voted on by citydwellers. rural communities should be governed by people voted on by rural dwellers' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'NYC's 469, HK 426, Paris 40' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yes, because walling off cities isn't compulsion :P' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'gotta keep em in, abe' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Almost all high density cities are within a few feet of sea level. This is what I was saying about self cancellation of population.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'stop them spreading' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You smirk at his saying. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'are passports required to reside in the cities or the rural areas, in that Tigernuts suggestion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'only to vote :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the pro-populating-explosion argument is not convincing :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, I'd just like to say that I'm from South Dumdum' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'One city in the entire world has taken serious action against sea level rise - Venice. And it has had no success.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I don't think anyone is pro population explosuion, just most of us don't really care what the poopulation is so much as what the standard of living is' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'in the professionals populating explosion, at least they are educated as professionals' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you aren't 'most of us', Emm, and abe has already proven that standard of living is both subjective and not defendable' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'professionals tend to not explode the population' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it's quite defendable' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'I haven't exploded, lately. So we have one data point' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's not defendable, abe, it's subjective' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'even what constitutes a standard of living is subjective' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, your definition of it is subjective' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'its definition is measurable' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'but some of the misguided "professionals" seem to believe that an exploding population is okay (the ecology be damned - you wild animals, get out!)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's only measurable by choosing some metrics' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'wow, whoda thunk' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: '...isn't that true with literally everything?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'which is why there are metrics in place for such a thing' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'speed is only measurable by choosing some metrics' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'everything is relative.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'how many species are going extinct everyday -- almost believe they'd run out of species soon' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'don't tell kant that' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'metrics? No Lets not use quantifiable facts, that would be disgraceful on this channel' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there is no fixed metrics for it, abe - you can choose one set of metrics to measure it, someone else could choose a different set of metrics. The result could be similar or vastly different' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Scars sighs. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there are known fixed metrics for it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you can choose to ignore the rest of the world's definition, but that doesn't make it not a well-known thing' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, there are metrics that some agenda-driven scientists have chosen for it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Not when the baseline is I feel good here, don't mess with my stuff.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'nod arnica, that's Tiger's definition of it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'standard of living measures suffer the exact same shortfall that all measures that focus on aggregates... it doesn't distinguish from a country with very little variance with a country that has significant variance if their means are equal' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so now you've proven that you can't have rational thoughts regarding it...now we're getting somewhere :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what scars said' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you might as well at that point just measure standard of living by someone's wealth' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'And the feel good part is dubious for most people, no matter what there circumstances' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'that, however, doesn't mean it's a useless measure' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the bhopal chemical leak killed and damaged a lot -- likely because the surrounding populace was malnourished and borderline living dead' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'and the Pareto index adjusts for this, sort of' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'but i'm not sure why knowing and noting that some measures are not perfect somehow makes the whole thing subjective and bunk' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'that's just going to force the discussion to devolve into "my way is right and no stats can refute me because this is all subjective, but seriously i'm right, look at my stats"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'which is where we are quickly heading, yet again' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'No Tigernuts, the right measure is personal happiness. I live in a little box in a downtown area, and I feel pretty good.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'personal happiness would appear to be a good measure, but that might put someone in the middle of africa with no running water or electric and little food on a par with someone wealthy living in NYC' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'some downtrodden people are quite happy' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd love to know what technological solution you'd have that would mean a massive increase in world population could exist and guarantee same or better personal happiness' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'happiness is internal and has little to do with conditions' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'flesh lights' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you can choose to be happy' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can also lie, abe' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'true dat' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'yeah I am pretty sure psychologists would tell you that gross happiness always increases with population' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'but if there is a chemical leak, a disgruntled properly nourished populace is likely to be mostly unharmed -- but in a poorly nourished yet religiously happy neighborhood, they die in far greater numbers' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and per capita happiness is uncorrelated with population' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yup, hence the term "blissfully ignorant"...as long as they're happy, who are you to tell them that they're miserable? :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'in other words happiness is a horrible measure of standard of living' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'happiness is one of the measurements ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Emm - proffer a better one' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'which is not to say personal happiness isn't a good thing, or to be encouraged in whatever small ways we can' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, happiness would not be cumulative' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'real purchasing power parity, percentage of time available for leasure activities, etc. etc. etc.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'mo money, mo problems imo' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'look at a 2 or 3 dimensional representation: health, perceived happiness, actualisation abilties ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'shades of Maslow ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'why is health important? american samoa is pretty happy, and like 70% morbidly obese' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and there are dozens of other metrics we can use' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'what's the cancer rate where you reside, Scars' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'not like that regular samoa before us merkins got to them, amirite?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Scars concurs with you. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'again hapiness is a horrible metric to use, terminally ill people are generally just as happy as non terminally ill people' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the upshot of this is that standards of living are stagnant/falling already. you not only have no way of guaranteeing standards of living in an increasing population, but the implication is that it doesn't really matter anway' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'terminally ill victims are not really happy -- they are faking an outlook' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'where do you get standard of living is falling?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'not according to neuroscientists xyliz' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'nobody has ever guaranteed standard of living, but that's not the same statement as standards of living cannot be maintained/increased with higher populations' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'we have measured their brain activity' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'http://www.cancer-rates.info/tx/ .... says my county has 419.8 per 100,000 have cancer' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'those neuroscientists are #%#' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'population isn't what has reduced standard of living, people being selfish dicks is' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it was a study in UK taking in the current generation entering the work market versus their parents, taking in job opportunities, job security, housing opportunity, health prospects, disposable income, retirement opportunities, general outlook' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i know in the US the geriatric industry is about to be a booming sector' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it won't be here, we're about to start chucking geriatrics in death factories' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'lulz' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'most of those "studies" totally skip over the fact that the younger generation doesn't have less, they just spend what they have on things that their parents didn't' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'OK, anyone seriously interested in this topic needs to watch this TED Talk http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the psychological value of saying you are happy when you are obviously not happy' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'again... mo' money... mo' problems' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'fucking ted talks' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'as Goebels said "if a lie is repeated often enough, the lie becomes the truth"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'yeah, fuck those smart fucks and their ability to speak well in public' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they aren't all smart fucks at all' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'why doesn't ted shut the fuck up' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'fuck ted' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'fuck him and his talks' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the ted affiliate talks are just a mouthpiece of political groups - nothing to do with science at all' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I thought about putting out a ted talk for the hell of it once' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'a ted talk about aardmud?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'are you trying to tell me that people who give ted talks might want policy shaped around their opinions and outlook? gtfo.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'no fucking way' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'that's crazy talk' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"pravda" is russian supposedly is "truth". the ussr "Pravda" newspaper published lies' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'personally I always try to convince people to have policy that goes against my beliefs' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'next thing you're going to tell me is that celebrities like to use their limelight status as a way to champion causes they think are important, regardles of how well informed they are' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if they're politically motivated, then they have no more validity than those celebrities, scars' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you're politically motivated' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'everyone is' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes, i am' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Orwellian 1984 "Ministry of Truth"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so you have no more validity' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Scars concurs with you. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the implication is "ted talk, it's ted, they're clever people, therefore you should believe them and follow their agenda above others"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'trying to "throw out" someone's opinion because it's biased is pretty stupid, when it throws yours out for the same reason' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'starting to think you don't watch the ted talks' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't throw out their opinion, i merely pointed out that they're subject to the same bias/agenda as any other source' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'or you saw one or two' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i saw one or two' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the point of ted talks is to get people to think about these things, not for you to blindly accept what they say as truth' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'what are "Ted talks" -- never heard of them' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Scars nods at Emm and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?! T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you did throw out their opinion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'You fucks did not look at it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're targetting the rwong people, Emm' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'ain't nobody got time for a ted talk' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'lulz' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can bet your arse that people who watch ted talks already know about the subject' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'tigernuts, if the ted talk speaking advocated for your personal beliefs, you'd feel justified and empowered that someone with a platform pushed your worldview' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Better to make your debate content out of your butt?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'so you only give a shit about this because you disagred with the one or two you s aw' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'you saw*' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'new here, Arnica?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it was abe doing the disregarding, i merely pointed out that they're not some bastion of unbiased truth' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'your way of going about that was rather brutish' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm far too furious to not be brutish' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i know that 100% of the time you're active on this channel, you're mad at something :P' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'this must be theraputic for you' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'll let you into a secret, it's not just the active time on the channel' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Meds work better' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'then get real therapy' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm not allowed :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'it's unhealthy to be this pissed off about stuff that you have no control over' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Tigernuts, is there any hair remaining on your scalp ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i have a mostly complete head of hair thanks, Xyliz' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'no one is fooled by your combover' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'full head of hair here, i never stay angry' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'is how much hair you have included in abe's standard of living calculation?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Here is a TED Talk on the correlation of baldness and anger Http://gofuckyourself.com' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'chronic anger is a waste of emotion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You fall to the floor laughing at Arnica's remark. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps Ted seems angry about being bald' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'okay, turns out that's a forum website' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i feel so mislead' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i feel so misled*' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'type A personalities tend to lose their hair, unless they get plenty of sexual action' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'perhaps they lost their hair because they watched Ted talks?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'not sure if it's coincidence or not, but I started losing my hair after I met my wife :>' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'quite likely related' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all that added stress' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or, all the extra sex' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'not getting any, or not getting enough, or not wanting any' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Tigernuts, sure you are not bald yet' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'maybe some are genetically predisposed to keeping their hair ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'as i'm going to bed, i'll pluck my nut hair' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what is a type A personality then?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '(other than an arbitrary grouping of personality traits)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'How else would an arbitrary personality type defined? You have a better system, sir?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope, just limits it's usefulness' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'I call your personality type defined by the symbol the artist formerly known as prince uses as an identifier. Is that better?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you aren't supposed to generalise based on gender, race, class or sexuality, is it really appropriate to generalise personality types?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'personality types are changeable' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'personality types are usually changeable' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Unlike those, and not actually declaring thoise useless, interpersonal relationships v=can be productively modified by an understanding of personality types' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd argue that all those groupings are useful for generalising, depending on the context' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'and Xyliz is wrong, without extreme effort' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Generalization is useful in human intercourse, do you have any experience?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in human intercourse?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm engaging in intercourse with you right now' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i didn't feel a thing' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'Despite what the salesperson says, there's no such thing as one-size-fits-all condoms' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'You are masturbating' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'your fault for making me horny' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'unless going with the possibly-controversial perhaps-politically-incorrect opinion that "personality is genetic" -- (the political-correctness-or-incorrectness depends on the bias of those attempting to justify their "perversions")' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'im going to justify my perversions all over this channel' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how about you tell us what personality groups are, xyliz, and what you believe each of us belong to?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'insufficient information' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then what are the groupings? let us decide for ourselves' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'another (perhaps controversial) topic: what is the "worst major religion" in the world today' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'scientology' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Tony's Toes' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'not that many members yet, not yet that major, though they did influence (possibly corrupt?) some USamerican politics' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Sony Bono was a scientologist, and apparently a politician -- died in unusual circumstances' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the death of Nemtsov - good or bad for Russia' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's got to be a toss up between Islam and Judaism' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'bad' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'what makes one religion better than another?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd say that a religion that provides useful and beneficial service to it's followers and the wider world makes one better than another' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'educated Jews are smart enough to avoid destroying the world in their "greed" for what they want' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that remains to be seen, xyliz' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Was Nemtsov a Scientologist?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'not sure about the educated muslims -- so far an educated muslim pakistani, educated and trained by the USa, found novel methods of purifying yellow-cake uranium, and distributed plans how to build nuclear devices that go "Boom!"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the "educated and trained by the USa" is a humorous unfortunate circumstance' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Muslims breed at a faster rate than Jews (y/n)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'you mean "people who are currently muslims breed at a faster rate than those who are current Jews?"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and when Muslims get into a majority, the muslims become extremely intolerant' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'dunno, they have a much higher fertility rate than the UK average, however' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'they also blow up at a faster rate' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not fast enough' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'they all smell like body oder and burnt carrots.. i dont get it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'moderate Christianity is (usually) benign these days ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's probably their soul rotting inside them' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Fucking racists, go to your respective versions of hell' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'sorry, i don't beleive in fairy tales..i'm no t8' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'oh, well that's good, i don't have a concept of hell' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sucks to be you' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'With shining beacons of tolerance and open-mindedness such as just exhibited by Arnica, there's no wonder that the world is the most peaceful and equal it has -ever- been!' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Fucking racists. may your nuts rot off' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Better?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'hibbi calm down buddy' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some Fundamentalist Christianity are zealot nutjobs (especially when they prefer their "Bible" to scientific truth -- (the Muslims prefer the Koran and associated religious texts to scientific truth)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'No. There is no tolerance for that crap.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'I just love social justice warriors' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they warm my cockles with their vapid ideas' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'we must not be racist' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'but its okey for the towl turds to beat their women and make them wear bed sheets..' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'seems legit' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts is agreeing with that Legendary Gruagach person again... T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Oh yeah? Lets start evaluating mental health as a basis for discrimination.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'dont' forget burning people alive in cages, keeping half a million people penned up ina prison camp, and suppressing peace movements in favour of terrorist organisations' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'qr' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the celtic wickerman ?!?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'don't be racist, xyliz, it's upsetting Arnica' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'check your white preveledge!"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'like you are not?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Tigernuts, specify which religion currently burns humans in cages' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't need to check my white priveledge, for one because the whole campaign is ignorant, but also because i'm black' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that'll be a certain brand of Islam, Xyliz' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'No religion does that, person of a religion do that' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'by that argument no religion does anything' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'o religiondoes anything, you are correct, sir' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'no religion does anything, you are correct, sir' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no well-established religion teaches that as a current practice' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'no, you ignore those parts' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i disagree, and here's why: the central function of a religion is to compel it's followers to act in certain ways for certain reasons. For a variety of motivations' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'in america, mostly money' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: '#itsdeductible' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'religion is a social tool to manipulate people, whether for good or ill' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and no well-established religion's function is to compel its followers to burn people alive in cages' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'each human adopts a belief as it suits them, thet do not abdicate responsibilty for their actions or the morality of them' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's no well established state's function to torture people it doesn't like in extra-territorial bases, Abe, but it's still done and has been justified (attempted to be justified) by said states' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'nice distraction, but not germain' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so show the organized religion that justified the acts, since you're claiming that it was the religion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doesn't really get you anywhere' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it does, it would prove your point rather than your blatant lie' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'still futzing facts man' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'if action X is typically performed by people claiming religion Y, blaming religion Y implies that the people are not inherently responsible for action X' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'when the Catholic inquisition was doing the Sunday auto-de-feu - that was religion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'or crediting religion Y, i suppose' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well i'm glad you said that, because that's the argument that pro-gun lobby use, scars' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'all religions have nutjobs as well as normals' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'as do all s' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Scars nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then it's either a valid argument or not' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'I wonder if Tigernuts is a member of a religon, if so they ...' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'but people develop biases through observation, naturally' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'as far as I can see, there is no distinction between "the religion" and "people who claim to have that religion"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'if you always seen horrific things done by a people affiliated with a thing, you naturally start to villify that thing' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'then you're blind, imo' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'scars statement is consistent with both the gun and the religion topic...guns don't kill people, and the religion doesn't tell people to burn other people in cages...' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i would agree, abe' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'christian people are not all equal representatives of christianity... muslims are not all equal representatives of islam' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'religion does say kill people though so..' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'swalec: the difference is that anyone can claim to be of any religion at all, even if they don't know jack shit about it...that's not the religion's fault or issue' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Scars concurs with you. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'however, it's quite unlikely you'll find an atheist or a christian calling for the killing of infidels in the name of Islam' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'there is no barrier to entry in claiming affiliation with many religions, therefore you can't reasonably deduce that religion == people of that religion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'and what about the millions of christians that were busy condemning such a thing?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, you'll find them calling for the killing of infidels in the name of god or their country' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'yes, Abe, anyone can claim to be part of a religion -- but (assuming that they are not lying) -- how else am I to judge membership of a religion?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i see plenty of "bomb the ragheads back to the stoneage" bullshit from my so-called christian "friends"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the organized religion doesn't condone the behaviors of the extremists' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I mean, I don't want to take the catholic position and argue that you can be part of a religion even if you don't believe it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'with a different religion, they'd likely be not burning victims, so the religion is responsible for those burnings, especially when those burnings are motivated by religious texts' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what about them scars? i was just suggesting that just because ISIS isn't typical of Islam, doesn't mean there is no value in stereotyping ISLAM by it's members' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'would you also reach similar conclusions about black people from the black panther "black power" violent movement?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Arnica declares himself the Most Holy High Priest of the Arnican religion. Bow and praise Arnica!!!! T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there is no current well-established religion which condones burning people in cages, calls for its members to do such, or has any similar teachings' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what conclusion is it you think people are drawing, scars?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I am not clear that stickign "well-established" in that sentence makes it true' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'that you can somehow defend painting all of Islam in a negative light due to the actions of ISIS or Al-Qaeda' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'would you also claim all black people are horrific people due to conflicts in Africa that we all tend to ignore?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'or is it just convenient for you to pick on religion?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'all white people are shitty because of the vikings' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'swalec: then point to a single example' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I am afraid that the fact, for instance, for a significant part of my life I lived in a country where people bombed, beat and knee-capped people for being the wrong form of Christian has left me with a degree of antipathy to the religion.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well just to put my opinion on the matter clear, scars, i paint in a negative light any religion or group that would seek to impose rules on me that push rules on me that are further from my personal ideology than exist currently' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that includes all religion possibly excluding Buddhism, most political parties, social justice warriors, and Abelinc' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'again, swalec, there is no recognized form of christianity which condones that behavior' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some may argue that christians/Christianity did not commit genocide in the Americas, but chistians/Christainity condoned those genocides, even used scripture to justify those genocides, or simply changed the topic and let the genocides continue' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'got it, so just an all-round bridge troll' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'again, you just stick "recognised" in to avoid the problem' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nah, just a pitchfork wielding, smock wearing peasant, Scars' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'lol' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it doesn't avoid the problem, it states the reality' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'As the High Holy Priest of an established religion, I can say with veracity that those who would stone, cage, crucify, immolate, or otherwise torture other human beings shall be doomed to reincarnation as dust mites.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I'm not stating that nobody commits attrocities in the name of religion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'there really are people out there who think that the Pope is the antichrist' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'I think Pope is a cunt' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'sure, lots of protestant types would' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I think you are using the "no true scotsman" fallacy -- are you arguing that neither the catholic nor protestant churchs were involved in the Northern Ireland troubles/' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'the Pope is not smart enough to be the Anti-Christ, Rand Paul is the Anti-Christ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'the type of people who differentiate between christian and catholic would probably reach such idiotic conclusions' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Christians like to lipservice the "Goodness and Benignity and Fairness of Christianity" while indirectly supporting and profiting from the evil actions of Christianity' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'to say "well those were just some people, and not the religion" -- but what is the religion if not the people?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'not sure what you mean there...by protestant, I merely mean non-catholic christians, who don't recognize the pope as being any divinely-appointed role' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if Rand Paul is the Anti-Christ, then Hilary Clinton is Cthulu' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i know you do abelinc, i was pointing out that some protestants think catholics aren't christian' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'was not some christians -- was a lot of them ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'doing bad deeds in the name of a cause doesn't inherently make the cause bad' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'tigernuts can you tell me how you feel about the fcc taking over the internet? i'm confused.. useally you slant heavily right so i'm intrested to see what you think' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'tigernuts doesn't register on an rational left/right spectrum' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'apprently there is a 300 page document, that will be releasted at some point' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'he's firmly in the third dimension that says "i believe what i believe, fuck you"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'gruagach, my issue is with the non-transparent process, and the concern of giving the FCC the power to meddle with freedom of speech/privacy' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'no, Scar's, but if people keep on doing it, well, it does make you worry about the cause' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but broadly i'm in favour of net neutrality' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Nice diversion attempt. The FCC has done nothing at all so far.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'if a small, vocal, attention-getting group does it... you're drawing conclusions due to your exposure to the media' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 're-read what was said, Arnica and try again' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'what do you think about what mark cuban said about cable could end up buffering ' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'that was kinda way out there, but it makes sense when you break it down' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'my country has suffered sectarian violence for many hundreds of years -- I have to think this does justify some antipathy toward christianity' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what did he say?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'a religion motivates followers what to do and condone, and what the active members do, tacitly supported and condoned by other members, typifies the religion' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'bascially that everything is a bit, and that the streaming cable could end up having to give way to internet connection' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'perhaps your people are simply violent by nature and willing to forcefully take power rather than talk it out, because history has proven that to be effective (being forceful)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'are you in the balkans or something?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'nothing wrong with you feeling that way, swalec...but that isn't the reality of christianity as a whole, much like isis and suicide bombers aren't the reality of islam' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that sounds like bollocks, Graugach' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'a country, a nation, is typified by its actions, by the actions of its members' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'should we consider the full weight of those actions, rather than the ones plastered all over the media?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there was a time when the fundamental religions fully advocated such violence, but it's been hella long time since' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'christianity will forever and ever have a massive black eye for the crusades' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'a religion is typified by the actions of its members ("a good tree bringeth forth good fruit, an evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit -- by the fruit the tree is known")' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'absolutely nothing explains away the evil actions conducted then by the catholic church and their knights' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how does that fit with your thoughts of me on an arbitrary 1 dimensional political scale (why can't you all just go to politicalcompass.org ?)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'grua: it's not far fetched in concept, if taking net neutrality at face value' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the question comes down to the definition of "its members", really...' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'avoiding the "no true scotsman" fallacy, there are hundreds of millions (billions?) of christians and muslims... villifying all of them because of the actions of an extremely small subset is irrational' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'is it the thousands doing the atrocities, or the millions who practice peacefully and the organization of the religion itself' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I agree it is not true of all of Christianity, Abe. I do not judge all Christians, but I still dislike Christianity because of it. I can't help feel that anything which convinces it's members that there is a Word of God is pretty automatically on the way to being a bad thing.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, unless there is a word of God...' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'when people start to claim god is speaking to them and telling them to go all Jacob on people... that's when shit is really weird' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i struggle a lot with the old testament' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'no, unless there is a word of god AND we have a reliable way of finding out what it is' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'reads like a historical war record too much sometimes' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the word of god is "Rhubarb!"' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'governments and religions often prefer to interfere in the actions and beliefs of its members, so when some of the members become extremely wicked, the tacit condoning silence and lack of action by the government or religion then typifies their support for those wicked actions' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'and for me, I am afraid, it was not just a few Christians involved in the troubles. Incidentally, I am not that fond of football either, because it was on the football stands that a significant part of the funds were raise for the attrocities.' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'football or soccer? }:>' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the reason Marc Cuban is talking bollocks is that despite everything being bits, there is an infrastructure that supports a certain throughput. Provided they're not overselling their capacity, there will be no contention between cable and internet' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'maybe the companies that profit from the existance of the internet will follow Google's lead and promote the upgrading of the infrastructure' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'that'd be nice to see' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Football and Soccer' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm always wary of "improvements" from Google and friends' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'that's because you're a bridge troll, we've covered that :P' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts SMACKS Scars upside the head, wonder what he did. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'erm, pitchfork peasant' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or could be that stuff that is called progress is often worse' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'like them turning off Google Talk' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'like Google Chrome. Just Google Chrome' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'yeah, well, i'll be a lemming if it gets me affordable gigabit internet access' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i love google chrome' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you don't code then?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'nope, don't care to either' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'explains why you don't hate Google Chrome, then :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'am i over-sharing my browsing habits with google?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's the new IE8' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i have never had a problem with google chrome' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'cos you don't code :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'sounds like i'm immune from whatever the shortcoming is' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: ''insulated'/' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'was a side-note anyway, please continue :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'distinction without a difference in my mind' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'same thing was said by internet explorer users :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I have no problem with google chrome either, and have a few pretty-substantial web apps in production :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doesn't mean it wasn't a lamentable browser' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i don't use internet explorer because it's slow, that's it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i see little difference between religion and any other cult that seeks to indoctrinate/manipulate it's followers, whether it be religious, celebrity or political' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they can do what they like, provided it's both 'over there', and doesn't impact me' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'there are far fewer harsh scriptures in Christianity than there are in Islam' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how about buddhism?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'fewer in the new testament, anyway...' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'there are far more benign scriptures (*without* the stick to the carrot) in Christianity than there are in Islam (plenty of doubious carrot and horrid stick)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so what?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'big difference in attitude' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so what do you propose we do about it?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'i'm running out of time - no we' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what do you suggest is done about ti?' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'immigration controls and non-interventionist foreign policy. THat way the crazy foreign religious types can please themselves' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'yeah, except the immigration-controls requires overcoming the politically-correct bleeding-hearts' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts peers intently at Arnica. T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'indeed' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'screw the central purpose of the government which is to protect it's citizens from outside threats' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's just not liberal' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/191966' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli warplanes if they overflew Iraq to attack Iran' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he just earned some brownie points :_)' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'see what you did tigernuts!' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nogs, Zionist plot' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not sure as to the accuracy of that story, though, was in an Israeli paper, it's a bit like Russian media in that respect' T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'dunno what on earth is going on with the BBC atm, they're utterly obsessed with Jihadi John' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'http://theweek.com/articles/534851/robots-immigrants-could-take-half-german-jobs' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'robot immigrants! and I thought the mexicans were bad!' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'the headline was truncated in the link' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'survey of UK sex workers found 97% had a high school education, 38% have an undergraduate degree, and 18% had a PHd or higher' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'not all that surprising really, some people just enjoy sex' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'mmmm sexy doctors' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and governments like criminalising people for not-criminal behaviour' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'truth' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'yes they do' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'so they can romanticize criminal behavior' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'only solution is to get rid of governments' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'thats stupid' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Gigglefluff nods at ScareCrowe. T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes, it is' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'have you an alternate solution?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'eat the rich?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'not ripping down the government?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's not a solution, scarecrowe, have another go' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'mine was a solution' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts nods at Gigglefluff. T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not one i can take up, i have sensitive guts' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'how about instead of blaming the rich' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'you blame the idiot people who consent to this crap' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'how about refining the governmental processes so that they work better' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'how do you know tiger, maybe you'd really enjoy human' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i agree with tigernuts get rid of a bunch of people' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'ok, scarecrowe, how's that done, then?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'eating the rich!' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'we need a purge and not just rich' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts grins evilly at Raaza. T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'we can use xyliz as our standard of who to get rid of =p' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'lol' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nobody is to eat anybody... until i blow this whistle' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'i dunno im not a political individual, but what youre suggesting is tearing down an entire establishment and inviting in chaos instead of fixing it' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'scarecrowe, have you ever been in a situation where you're doing a task and it's gone on and you've realised that it's totally screwed up, and you realise that it'll be far quicker to just start afresh?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'fire departments do controlled burns' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'so does nature' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'sure but that activity has never involved all the lives of the people around me' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'to get rid of invasive species of plants' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'maybe not, but that's the situation you have with government atm' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it cannot be fixed' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'sure it can' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'the governments will just draw sticks on who to purge' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm going out on a limb here, but i'm going to say it cannot' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'choosing logically would require work' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'well how much have you actually searched for another solution?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'and work is for peasents' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i've searched for years. There is none' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'i have to say i doubt that' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you offer none, you don't know where even to start' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lol scarecrowe should run for office' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lets see you fix things rather then talk if u have a solution' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'or are you another keyboard warrior...' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there is historic precedent for my argument, too, in every revolution that has ever happened' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'well yeah because i havent looked that much, because i honestly cant care enough. whats going on right now isnt invading my life to such a huge degree that i would want to destroy the establishment that is in place.' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there used to be a phrase commonly used to describe that point of view, Scarecrowe' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's "I'm alright, Jack"' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'did you just call me a keyboard warrior? XD' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'its ok im a keyboard ranger' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'okay so xyliz and scarecrow are the standard' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'before you get the wrong idea, revolution doesn't meat going out causing anarchy killing people, it merely means a complete change of governorship without going through the previously adopted process. You're essentially stopping and rebuilding your systems from the ground up' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and it might result in very similar systems' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'most colour revolutions do' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'ie the american revolution' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Xyliz sets the standard, ok -- some of you, the abominations and depraved perverts, are to be dead dead dead euthanised dead T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but i can tell you one thing for certain, you cannot enact meaningful change against an establishment that is self-perpetuating and self-defending' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the people are but flies to them' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'well first of all we are talking about the American gov. in particular right?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'most people are flies these days' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well i refer to the UK government, but they suffer similar problems' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'buzzing one way or another' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'just to suck shit through a straw ' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some of you are talking as though whackjobs inspired by the religious terrorist whackjobs' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'USA's government could be changed a fair bit easier than the UK's one, as it goes' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'well i dont know much about the UK government at all' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'think US government without the states as a tier of government underneath, without the president above, and with no constitution' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but the same addiction to debt' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'sounds wonderful' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's utopia, everyone on welfare, falling standards of living, nobody under 40 can afford to buy anywhere to live' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'but hey there is one plus i think' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'i dont think the UK suckles on the teet of Chritianity as much. correct me if im wrong.' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we don't, we suckle on the feet of Islam instead' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're like christians but blow up more' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'as much as the Middle East?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'so rigorously prove that Islam is a terrorist religion' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we just let anyone settle here and then get upset and take away everyone's privacy rights when these people turn round and blow people up here' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'hey how about we abolish all religions' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can no more ban religion than you can ban greedy rich people' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why would you ban religion?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'you are fighting against terrorist moles pretending to be friendly but are terrorists seeking majority intolerance (sharia law)' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'because its stupid' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'government is equally stupid but you won't ban that' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'government is something we need' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'religion is not' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'religious people would disagree, much like i disagree wrt government' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'religion and government are 80% equivalent' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the "clueless and or depraved politically-correct" (with greedy agendas and sex-perversions of their own) are supporting the terrorist moles' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'religion will take care of religion. they already do lols' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'religion and government are different (not 80% equivalent)' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they are 80% equivalent' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i say let them argue togther with god. which they all claim is the same anyways' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perverse agendas support perverse agendas' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'both are in the business of dictating how to act, what to believe. both extort money for the purposes of maintaining the services they provide, both are vehicles for controlling people' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Tigernuts, you are speaking as though a muslim' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'if your not one of the main threw you can usually forget about religious tolerance' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'three' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'moderate chrisians are very tolerant' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'doesnt make them any less wrong' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Fundamentalists are the nutjobs' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'and tiger, you believe laws are necessary right?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i say they have enough enemies' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'thats proof of how tolerant they are' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'laws are necessary, but when your laws become divergent from the principles of common law, then you have a significant problem' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'love how some people hate when you talk about all religion being useless and meant to control' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'christians didnt survive rome' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'i agree, but the only way i know of to enforce laws over a large area is via a government' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'they did what the romans decreed..changing customs and holidays' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, scarecrowe, not by government, but by a sheriff' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'so really to me they are more illegitimate then their predecessors' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'possibly by a government as an alternative, but the government itself doesn't do the job' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"principles of common law" -- lots of different versions -- bad versions such as intolerant sharia law ' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'whens the last time you saw a congresssman arresting someone?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'all kids in a candy store of personal beliefs' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'they delegate' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lols' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'like wiccans...lets cast a spell for our lost car keys' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts pats Raaza on his head. T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'wiccans are nutjobs' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'thats a very incorrect view of wicca' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'ya ok' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i dont believe in it, but i used to know a few people who did' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the ostentatious wiccans are nutjobs -- the smart wiccans keep a low profile' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'they are like the mormons' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lets worship wicca even though all we know about it was written in the seventies' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Raaza, did you converse with any mormons -- they do not seem to be wiccans' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'thats like claiming to be a zorastrian ' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the most dangerous religious people are those who worship the government' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'wiccans are plagarists' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'and fake' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'as real as scientology' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'arent all religions just plagerizing?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'yeah' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'did you USamericans recite the oath of allegiance today, and stand in awe of the President and the American flag' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'no' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'nope' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you did, you're probably a traitor' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you should have burnt the flag and called the president a wanker' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lols' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts looks around and whistles innocently. T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'bet american flags are made in china' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'yeah, currently the president is the wrong color. maybe the next President shall be a glorious white male (democrat) ' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i might have suggested the union jack as an alternative, but that's sullied too' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'um our president now is a democrat' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'll fly my own flag :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some Doctor Who fans are in awe when in the presence of Tom Baker' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doctor who sucks' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doesn't mean i want to prevent other people from watching it' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the current president seens to be a puppet' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all your presidents are puppets' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'he looks like he still smokes crack' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'all sweaty and bug eyed' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'your presidents who don't do what the establishment tells them have a habit of getting shot' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'shot/impeached/otherwise chased out' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'George "read my lips" Bush is like 90ish' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'haha hes not a puppet' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'hes a muppet with a new world order hand up his ass' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'so whose going to get the republican nomination next year, surely not that fossil GHW Bush ' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Jeb Bush will' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i think we should just have open immigration' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doesn't matter he's not popular, the establishment have decided' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'just set up a ninja warrior course at the borders and televise it' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the name Jeb is laughable -- he is likely to be a disaster' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'terri schaivo' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'look it up he already over stepped his office' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'jeb will just over step more now that obama made executive orders trendy' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Jeb Bush will win because the establishment will do to Rand what they did to his dad' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'here's John Stewart to point it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qtDJ6Ay4QMw' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'obama has issued less EOs than bush did' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'less' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and this is Jeb Bush at CPAC, listen to how popular he is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Sh44Kku2I9k' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'obamas eos have been far more reaching' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if it's any help, UK suppresses any real opposition in similar ways' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'later...' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'The Sandbaggers' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'eh?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the UK government runs a Murder inc ?!?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'they hired ja rule?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they have hit squads, yes' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"The Sandbaggers" was a British tvseries showing the assassination side' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'never heard of it' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'PBS used to feature "The Sandbaggers" on tv' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'fictional tvseries, but wow, what if there was some fact to the fiction' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'UK's establishment has been complicit in a massive cover up of paedophilia and child murders in the 80s' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they continue to this day to spend millions deliberately infiltrating civil rights and protest groups' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the British government dislikes dissenters' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it certainly doesn't, though it tends to be a bit quieter about dealing with them compared to the USA' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'especially those that dislike the monarchy' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, they didn't like me commenting on the new portrait of the queen on the new 2-pound coin' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'News headline: New 2 pound coin depicts severed head of monarch!' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the queens fanny has healed over' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'she smears nutella on her saggy tits and gets her Corgi's to lick them clean' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'so?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they should a portrait of THAT on the new 2 pound coin' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '95' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'http://tinyurl.com/njuzd2d' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what's wrong with that picture?' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'what's wrong is that the minority doesn't have to be the ones in power in order for the discrimination to exist' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'exactly' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you fail' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'by 'fail', i mean that despite your answer being correct, you'd fail the course since you didn't give them the answer they want to hear' T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and that should worry anyone interested in educating the next generation' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the UN have apparently whinged at Uruguay and USA claiming they're breaking drug treaties' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'simple solution: withdraw from those treaties' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'simple but important addition: Tell the UN to fuck off' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '"The INCB said it 'continues to engage in a constructive dialogue' with the US government on cannabis developments and it is clear the UN is putting strong pressure on the US government to ensure that the drug remains illegal at a federal level."' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what they fail to realise that it being illegal at federal level is utterly irrelevent if a state legalises it, that takes precedence' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'vote Dem....the lesser of two evils' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'the GOP, like Net, have only criticism to offer...no alternatives' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'thank god the fcc is taking control.. of something that didnt neet fixing' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'elaborate' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'pretty soon that 300 page document will be releasted too' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'net neutrality?' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, it needed fixing when Comcast was taken to task by the FCC for throttling certain types of traffic...' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'indeed abe' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'if you give providers the right to slow or speed your connection....then you don't understand what this whole thing means' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'it means some on on the other side of the world has a chance to change the world' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'that i can always mud ' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: ''I' can always mud' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'ask around' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'mudding doesn't nec change the world though' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'so' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'so...we're not going to pay for a 'speed'' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'whats your solution' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'voting democrat' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: '*grin*' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'lol'd' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'lesser of two evils' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'not the first time gru' T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'well any good canidates imo have been roasted' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'and therin lies the issue of 'the lesser of two evils'' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'as a democrat, i can safely say...Clinton is not going to be our candidate' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'then there is no chance' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'the difference between us is reality' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'tell me more about your senior leadership role in the democratic party' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: ''no chance'? you seen the circus the GOP is putting on?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'they are making progress with 'merrika' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'obama taking my freedums' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'and that's your problem gru' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'cleetus noname wont beat rand paul' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'elaborate? what freedoms has he taken from you?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'which ones?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'turn off Fox News' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'tune into alex jones, once a week..it will be fun' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'deflection' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'but that elk is making progress, these derpers are voting now' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'asked a question' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'which ones?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'alex jones is a nutjob' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'you asked a direct question a flipent response. go fuck yourself' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'there it is' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'proof' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'buy his tangy tangerine and be well!' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'it was in the context of a joke, obv i am not some right wing nut job' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'danke' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lols' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'proof of what? -h you fucking idiot' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'then answer' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'put some iodine under your tongue and relax...' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'or shut the fuck up' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'chose' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'proof?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'l' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'you help more than you know' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'fucking posers' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i made a comment about how the right wing tards think their freedoms are being taken away.. and then you pressure me into saying what freedoms are taking away?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'and you refused to answer' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'don't play mke' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'me' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i dont know what the crazies think' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'sure you do' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'guns maybe' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'boobs yo say?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'forgive ya' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'let's move on' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'problem is...the GOP wants to complain about everything without offering any alternative....even though they promise them' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'as I said...vote Dem...the lesser of two evils...get over your hatred of 2-party....a vote for a third is wasted' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Gigglefluff nods at Creestux. T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'a vote is wasted' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i live in texas, my vote will never count' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'Which really just illustrates that our election system kinda sucks and is behind the times.' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'not behind its corrupted' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'should kick out every politician with a criminal record' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'Please...Texas is on their own...they tried to be their own country and couldn't make it' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'we took them in under our wing and now they want to bitch' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah..fuck texas..' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'gonna have to do more then just vote for president' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'upper mexico!' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'houston and dallas..really shitty cities with no job growth or industry' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'petition! learn how its done' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'losen your assholes...I'm in love with some people' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: '*grin*' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: '*duck*' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'll vote for legal weed, thats about it' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'count it' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'some governor candidate in missouri killed himself because they were saying he was a jew. he was not a jew.' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'what's a jew?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'a rich mexcian' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'I give a shit about your religion' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'if it's not dictating my life' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'but kill yourself over that' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'when it does...you're not better than Daesh' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: '???' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'there's more to it than that gig' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'hell you can call me whatever you want im not gonna go make out with my car exhaust' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'my pimp' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'fuck the haters' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'haters gonna hate hate hate' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: '...and lose' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'but...agreed' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'hating haters hate to hate hating haters hatting' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'too much' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'back off' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: '*griN*' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'bitch' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: '*griN*' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jhav: 'Too few buffalos - the sentence you're thinking of has seven.' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'women won't you come out tonight!!!' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i had to eat the other ones.' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'get out and vote next year' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'no excuses...you got time' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'vote gleemax/cthulu 2016' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'as a Boy Scout, I can say.....voting is both a right AND a duty' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'hilarious will be the next us president' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'as a Dem, it won't be hilary' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'who is the other choice?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'too early' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'first election?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'they will put her out there because theyll win' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'they will put here out there' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'her' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'they put Palin out there too' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'vp/p yes yes' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'Hilary will not be our candidate...place your bets' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'shes already spent 8 years in the WH, successfully was a senator. she is like the successful version of palin' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'black man followed by a woman?...please' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'ignorance' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'and that doesn't mean she'll win' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i ask you for the 3rd time who is better?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'see...Dems are worried about 'winning'' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'why not? women are getting promoted in the corprate world without merit' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'I'm not dissing her because she's a woman' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'I'm saying she won't win ' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'that's politics' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'id put 10m on it' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'you'll lose' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'and I'm a dem' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'im an independent and ill still put 10m on it' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'don't care how you waste your vote' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'hilary will not be our candidate' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i ask you for the 4th time who is better?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'what?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'don't try that crap' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'you've not asked me anything' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'who is a better choice... how hard is that?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'I'll ansser' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'proof you're lying' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'better choice?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'lying about what?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'this creestux so aggressive' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'the better choice' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'just me...can't handle it...don't approach' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'I see too many fakes' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'show me I'm wrong' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'did you skip your meds?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'nope' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'you?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'you go girl' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'are you sure?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'are you?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'see...us who take meds...have a system' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'FALSE! PROOF ME' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'we rarely forget to take them' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'im asking because i care about you. saying things like "i see too many fakes" screams mental imbalance.' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'prove him wrong' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'you don't care about me.....you care about saving face' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'which you've lost' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Raaza waves a sign that says "no meds till tier 9!" T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'saving face about what?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'captial ' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'NEXT!!' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'L o st' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'BOOM! head shotting' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'probably thought 'American ' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'Sniper lost because of Clint's politics' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'you got nothing for me' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'Next!!!' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'ok i see this is about to devolve into grunts. time for me to exit' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'rckt' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'bye, bye' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'youd be there voting for bob dole' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'CY@' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'need a song' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'music' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'it'll set you free' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Raaza looks ready to melt, perhaps you should get him an icecream? T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'no mercy' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'ignorance should not be humored ' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Raaza brings out the Corn Broom. T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'sweep that shit up' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'pwn da nubs' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'english' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'you want immigrants to speak it' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'FALSE..prove i want anyone to speak it' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Raaza waves a large bright red sign reading "NO !!" T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'i have' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Raaza waves a large bright red sign reading "NO !!" T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'it's all over you' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'step off' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: 'you're no longer worthy of my time' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Raaza brings out the Corn Broom. T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Raaza awakens from a four-year coma seeking revenge. T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Creestux: ''nough said' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why was Creestux whinging about people not speaking English, but profanes the language with terrible spelling? ' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'eric holder going in on these fergson cops..this report lol' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well they're racist, Gruagach' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what kind of idiot of a foreign office woman/presidential candidate spurns official email in favour of conducting business through a personal email account HOSTED in your own house?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i mean what possible excuse can there be for utter stupidity at that level other than deliberate intention for deceit?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'catch me up..what did she actually say in personal email' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'and was it encrypted?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'and was it a personal email or a major provider?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: '"funny games" vs "a clockwork orange"' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'personal email' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'she was hiding official business through personal email' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'unencrypted other than standard ' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'on a homebrew server' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'personal email like her own company server? how do you know how secure it is? i'm sure they have good protectin' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'you make it sound pretty horrible though.. i wonder why no one is blowing up yet' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'house committee is to subpoena her on it, so they are' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm sure those idiots will fumble it...they couldnt even pass keystone pipeline' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's utter dishonesty, it's like that EPA tart that used non-governmental emails in office in order to hide her guilt' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no different to Lois Lerner trying to burn the evidence of her wrongdoing by destroying hard drives' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'umm..was that ever proven?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'still ongoing' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they found email backups, so she could still be in big trouble' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'whenever i hear irs targeting scandle used by right wingers i vomit a little bit' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'used by?' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wasn't used by them, for once' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and it was targetting grass roots groups, not the establishment right wing, so it could equally have been the GOP establishment doing the targetting - you know what they're like' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'teatards=right wing to me' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're wrong' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the rand paul followers have far more in common with traditional liberals than the GOP establishment neocons' T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what you're doing is basically believing the media tarring and feathering beause they don't like em, but it's really not very fair' T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Warning...Nobody uses this channel' T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Yes Shaelynne I am talking to you lol' T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'latest in the Nazi takeover of Europe is Chancellor Merkel backing calls for a "joint EU army"' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in Florida, DEP officials have been ordered not to use the term 'climate change' or 'global warming' in any official communications, emails, or reports, according to former DEP employees, consultants, volunteers and records obtained by the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting.' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Why do I have this channel on?' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Kristina Trotta, another former DEP employee who worked in Miami, said her supervisor told her not to use the terms in a 2014 staff meeting. 'We were told that we were not allowed to discuss anything that was not a true fact,' she said.' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'perhaps you turned it on accidentally not realising you might learn something' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Nah' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'I would say im surprised, but im not.' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Sorry for your loss Tigernuts :(' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's ok, Irya, he was getting old' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Talking about your spouse fool :)' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wasn't aware he'd popped his cloggs' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in the meantime, go buy yourself a trendy new iWatch for $1000' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'I'm waiting for brain ilqnd eye implants' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i propose a new wealth tax called the iTax, essentially a 100% sales tax on all Apple branded products' T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'apple watch... why?' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'BBC set to lose millions of dollars in revenue after suspending Jeremy Clarkson' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'well worth the cost' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, i don't care, i don't pay the license fee anyway' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'makes it even more worth the cost' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'meantime, in a press conference, Hilary receives a planted question "Would fuss be made over email scandal if you were a man?"' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'oh tiger ... hows your garden?' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'to which the correct answer would be "Were this 40 years ago, you'd be in prison"' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'haven't really been following that story -- so, politician sends email, or something?' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'didn't they cover it in the entertainment news, Swalec?' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not been posted on facebook?' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I didn't choose to read about Clarkson -- they actually put it front story on the BBC' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'probably' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'with moving pictures and what is basically an obituary' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I am getting the impression he is not well liked' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's not a correct impression' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he's a national treasure, but the lefties hate him' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31824040' T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'what a guy' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'woo, the first major LNG export facility in the US will be opening later this year, and will begin exporting LNG to Europe.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'pbbt' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'whats LNG?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we can't afford it' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'liquid natural gas' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'ah ok' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we prefer russian gas, it doesn't stink of hypocrisy' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lol' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'america should be using it to pay its debts' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'oi, this country was founded on owing people money' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'no it wasnt' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wasn't it funded on exploiting people?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'err founded even' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'it was founded on paying back that debt and exploitation' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the price of oil needs to go back to $70-80 a barrel and stay there.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'americans word used to be worth something' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nah, it needs to go back down to $10' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '$10 oil is bad for th economy.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'debt is worse' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'and the economy already sucks' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'bad for WHOSE economy? not mine' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'means i can almost afford fuel' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'price of gas dropped recently so the middle eastern countries could write off some of its debts' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'bomb them!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no wait, that's the USA's response' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'well we picked up a lot of bad habits from the british :-p' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'but then again what country seeking to be a world power hasn't lied, stolen and exploited people' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'kind of necessary to become that powerful' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'this is true, but supposedly we learn from history and then act from a point of moral superiority, right?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'thatll never happen' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'no' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'those who study history are doomed to repeat it' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well that's why i can't take America's side against Russia, or ISIS' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'oh yeah, whats going on with that whole russia thing?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hopefully not much' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'people on the ground taking a step back, UK/USA trying to stir shit up' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'cant really side against isis on americas behalf' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'afterall we funded and created them' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hah, since when does russia ever not stir shit up ? :p' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'russia imo is doing what it knows best' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'keeping the rest of the world out' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'Go motherland lol' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'and only concerned about its own affairs when it comes down to it' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so why, rizgoth, is USA entitled to stir shit up, but not Russia?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'because am' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'because America' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I didnt say they didnt deserve to do it, I just said they do it just as much as anyone else.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'because america is better at it' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the cold war wasnt exactly one sided you know.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'they bribe and do what it takes to get others to back their play' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'to be fair, they haven't done much mischief for 20 years because they're been too busy picking up the remaining bits of their country' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'russia is more isolated' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'no one likes a lone wolf these days' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but the salient point is that you can't side with USA against RUssia in Ukraine from a point of moral superiority - you have no case' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'not my business' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it HAS to be resolved by the involved parties, and that's the Ukrainians, the seperatists, and the Russians' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'they can have ukraine if ukraine wants to join them, I could care less.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'perhaps though putin may one day give his insight behind the mexican american war' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'which is funny because it was fought by a bunch of racists' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'who also fought in the civil war ' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you know the only likely peaceful solution is an autonomous region in the Donbass' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'any idiot can see that, i can't work out why people think there can be any other way' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, this coors light beer is surprisingly good, for a light beer anyways.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'american beer sucks' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'Your beer sucks' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'american craft beers consistantly score among the highest in the world.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're full of gas' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i prefer a real ale' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'sounds like a broad generalization from someone who knows nothing about the subject to me' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'do you have proof of that gigglefluff?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'of what?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i tried a number of beers while in the States, every single one gave me terrible indigestion :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'your claim' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'which claim?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'beer' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'google it' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I like alaskan amber....or that apple ale from washington state.....really good craft beers.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'okay' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'm willing to concede it to be a matter of personal taste :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'I don't like beer period.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i'm really just saying there are pretty much any kind of beer or beer type drink you'd find anywhere else here in america' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'omg' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'going to be planting about 100 pear trees on my farm pretty soon....in 2 years I will be swimming in moonshine made from pears.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'most arent even american owned companies ' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'thats not american beer!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'they are just based in america' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'the rest you would have to be in that specific state' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'raaza you're talking about the lagers and mass produced stuff.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'budweiser is owned by a european company' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'no' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'there are literally thousands of microbrews in the usa' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'oddly, i don't mind the mexican beer they brew here under license' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'corona is a decent beer.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'ya microbeer you cant get unless your near the brewery' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'and foreign owned companies' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'red stripe is the king of beers.....' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'and corona is a cheap mexican beer...' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'corona might be a cheap mexican beer in mexico, but it isnt cheap around here.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'thats not true either, there are lots that are sold nation wide. Surley is an example of this. Hell Sam Adams used to be a smaller outfit but they have something like 200 different varieties.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'that didnt sell till they marked up the price and pushed it as a more expensive product' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'might be cheap mexican beer there, it's expensive european beer here with a mexican name' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'dos equis and modelo are better than corona imo.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'don't get either of those here' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'in college I used to love labatts blue.....24 oz glass for $1.....' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i love my beer store. they have hundreds of different brews' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'tap beer just tastes better to me.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'no it really is cheap lols. expensive just to sell more of it' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'marketing strategy ' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'if i do drink its normally labatts or molson. 1.25 a 24oz' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'any beer should really be tried from a bottle or tap though' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well i'm so glad we're discussing the hot topics of the day' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lols' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'eight minutes of hate hehe' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why are you named after a leftist mexican hate group?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'haha' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well? :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'raza was taken' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'so were the others' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I wonder what would happen to the price of oil if the US started exporting about 4-5 million barrels a day.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if we assume that the supply of American oil is through corporations operating in the free market, Riz, would they really pump that much at a loss?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'hows this though' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i put all racists into one category like they do to everyone else' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'all scum' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'define racist' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'someone who discriminates based on ethnicity?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, one of the reasons the sauds are flooding the market with oil is because they can control the price with a lot of extra production....the only other country with that much extra production now is the US, or Canada if they chose too to do it.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'anyone claiming racial superiority' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'all the little race cliques are retarded' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i believe the appropriate definition is the unfair discrimination based on race' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'id say both' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'my definition was close enough' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'no race is superior' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'this little production tift the sauds are doing is costing them $160 billion a year in lost revenue, just because they want to to maintain ther share value, instead of money value.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'that sounds like a good definition, Tigernuts.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'most of these groups claim how inferior everyone else is' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'while they slave their wife beat their kids and do drugs' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'high prison pop has contributed to an explosion in hate groups where i live' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you referring to us niggers, Raaza?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'probably' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'the whole human race is contemptible' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you realise this was done to us' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'alaska natives are superior....at least when it comes to negotiating a deal with the US federal govt. :P' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'social engineering on a grand scale and the drugs war' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'some have frosting...some are powedered...rarely do you find a real donut' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you realise at one point not so long ago (within living memory) black folks had the lowest illegitimacy, lowest crime rates in the country' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'most people are just fried poop with a sweet coating' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'because they were being discriminated against' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'everyone gets discriminated against at some point if they live long enough' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'not donkeys.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'yep, so how about everyone stop playing the racial blame game, thatd be nice XD' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i call people donkeys all the time' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'thats an insult to donkeys' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'dumb stupid animals that only work hard with a whip handy' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'donkies are great' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we received an amazing amount of rain on sunday and monday.....my creek went from a 2 feet wide creek, to a 40 foot wide and 3 foot river.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'but still ur right. better then humans' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '3 foot deep river that is' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'my pond in florida dried up :(' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'my neighbors pond flooded her entire yard' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'ya the yards flood down there but the pond is still empty' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'collect the rainwater from your roof and funnel it to the pond.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'that would probably be illegal' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'why would that be illegal?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'does the state own rainwater?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'in fact im pretty sure without a "permit" it would be' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'you would have some ecologist stir up crap' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in some states the state owns rainwater' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'my 5000 gallon water tank filled up with rainwater in about an hour.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Oregon is one such state, there may be others' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'well fuck that guy XD' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'and i cant see how anyone could claim to own rainwater' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I use rainwater to water my greenhouse, gardens and animals.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'actually they could fine you for having standing water' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nor can i, Scarecrowe, but you have some fucked up governments over there' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vrix: 'Government does weird stuff.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'state and federal' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'if you were to collect it' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's what happens when the people let their governments off the leash' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'if you rediverted it i would need a license' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'if you were to collect rainwater thats your business, noone elses' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'in Texas, the state owns all the water, but you have equal use of rainwater that falls on your property.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i have cranes that reside on my property down there' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'they are a protected species so yeah would probably get on major trouble' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'the cranes have more rights then i do' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'we roast cranes around here....tasty.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'actually if the gov did find out...' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'they could force me off my property and declare it a reserve' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'been focusing more on the nutria though.....they are invading this area' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'just because of all the protected species' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'kill them and eat the evidence' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'wouldnt want to get caught lols' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well talking about it on public commons isn't a great idea is it?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'thats a good 10 years for each count' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Texas is thinking of doing a $5 bounty on nutria if the problem persists.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'yeah but who the fuck cares here?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'because it would also be poaching' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well, they're starting to pay people to act as informants now, you realise' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'though we have killed a few gators...supposed to call...' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'and i dont care' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'young gator tails are tasty.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'we are all in the same sinking boat' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'came blame any country you want but its a bunch of then in cahoots' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'a local meat store here sells racoon and beaver meat.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'people dont even use the internet for its full potential' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'porn ?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'just this one game has multiple players all from different countries' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vrix: 'There are other uses? xD' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'yet all with the same over all complaint' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'What complaint?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'A southern Europian here :)' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'not enough porn?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vrix: 'Never enough!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Enough for me' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'Tell us Raaza, our Masta! what is our complaint!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'porn!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'hmm..where to start' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'Hallejulah!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Oh why did I even turn this channel on lol' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'sucky economies...bad laws and representatives' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'etc etc' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Ouch' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'because its amusing to watch people complain' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Trying to see what colour I wanna set my debate to' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i think people are amusing in general' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Hmmm...Bright green looks good' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'i kept mine on default' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'all the things they feel forced to do' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'convince them they have to do it they jump most times' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'actually people are more like mice then mice are like them' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'loss of values is amusing to watch too' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Now that is just mean Razza' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Raaza*' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'shhh hes progressively getting more emo' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Raaza...Pro tip...Do CPs' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'whats an emo?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'you tune in because the debate channel sounds like a high mineded place for elightening discussion. maybe we should find a more accurate name.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'like Complain' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'like the lead singer from greenday? ' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Instead of sitting here and talking to us people you shoukd go and level yourself' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'Yeah like that' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Hehe :£' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'or rambling channel' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'I think ramble is more fitting' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'or anger channel' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'But we got gossip for that' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'thats curse' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Gossip is the ramble channel and a debating channel aswell' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'ok take ur cp advice to newbie then' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'he cant unless hes an advisor/helper' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Raaza...I am trying to help...Take it from a guy that didn't listen to people better than him' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'hmm' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'I signed up for advisor once...Didn't make it' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'i might once i tier' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'So yeah...Raaza...If you play your cards right you will win' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'hey xp cp can come later. tigernuts leaves and the channel is dead again. :p' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'that bitch >_>' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'What did he do?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'he left' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, the Walmart in williston ND has a starting pay of $17 an hour' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'what!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'no way' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'checked Odessa TV and the walmart there starts at $17 an hour :p' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'everything in ND is very expensive its the new boomtown' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'whew' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'odessa TX that is' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'wonder what the cost of living is though' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'oil boom towns' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: '1 bedroom apts were 1000ish last fall' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'hmm no better then here' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'just more pay' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'A friend of mine turned a 16 foot moving truck into an apartment and lives in that near an oil field in western texas.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he pays a lady $200 a month to rent a spot on her land, has water and power connections.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'that wouldnt be bad in texas, in north dakota it gets a little colder' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lucky' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, the truck could easily do ND weather, it has 2 inch foam walls, an 3 inch in the ceiling...propane heating, etc.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'im paying almost a grand for a studio' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'he has 2 honda generators providing all the power he needs when not grid connected.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i hear a lot of good things about texas' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'when he isnt making $26 an hour working, he watches movies and tv on his RV dish on the roof on a 50 inch tv in the van.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'its like its own country from what i hear' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, that is our motto.....its like a whole other country.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'the weed laws are pretty crazy there though' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and Texas is the #1 producer of oil and gas in the US.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'no one should do life over marijuana' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'well, the weed laws are going to change...numerous state senators have put up bills to change them.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'a little weed every once in a while, but when you turn into one of those people where thats all they do i disapprove' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'and you wont get life for smoking weed, but you might get a couple years if your found with half a pound :p' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'fed time right?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'oklahoma on the other hand will throw you in jail and melt the key down.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i would be surprised if you did more than a fine in any state in the US for having an ounce or less.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nah, the feds have mandatory minimums.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '10 years' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'the feds dont get involved unless you cross state lines or are a huge trafficker' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Texas has become more lenient to casual smokers, but dont grow it, or traffic it in...they will still throw the book at you.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'enough to make u paranoid before u even light it lols' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, dont smoke in your car, or travel long distances in Texas with it. :P' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'in other words, dont be stupid and you will be fine.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'yep' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'would be nice if they legalized medical though' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'medicinal' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'ya' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'grammar nazi ahoy' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'sorry xping..gotta typo somewhere ' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i agree, it works so much better for my PTS than any of these shitty pills they give me' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i hate pills' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'then move where it is allowed' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Gigglefluff nods at Raaza. T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'na, i dont need it to be legal to do it' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'doesnt matter they all make me tired' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I prefer to put it in my blueberry muffins for when I get a migraine.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'Lol fair enough' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'or screw my mind in some subtle way' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'It seems like there is no place that truly has medicinal marijuana, they just have recreational with a little hassle.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i dont do edibles, they don't help the pts they just get me high' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'really thought edibles would work better' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'You need a better brand then...they grow low thc weed now that is more medicinal' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'its a different effect.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I always know when a migraine is coming, so it gives me plenty of time to eat the weed.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'any idea why you get migraines?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'had them since I was a kid.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'but they dont happen that often anymore....maybe once a month now.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'used to get every week.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'there is promising research with psylociben mushrooms and migraines' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'interesting' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'my migraines come from glaucoma. gotta smoke every couple days or im screwed' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'sucks when jobs come up and i gotta go weeks w/o' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mine a just random as far as I know....tunnel vision first, then slight nausea, then and hour later when the tunnel vision is gone,....bam the pain hits.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'prob has to do with my crappy vision.....have a bad astigmatism' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'ya that will give ya a migraine for sure' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'daily throwaway contacts are a godsend.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'so are fast food meals that you can just toss out on the highway' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i lost some of my vision permanently. probably about 25% and 50% at night' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'depending on the quality of women you date, that might be enviable' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'night time is the right time to not have too good of eyesight in some cases' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'yeah unless you have to walk somewhere' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'then its real dangerous. ' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'shrug... i'd be more afraid of waking up next to someone that would ruin my apetite' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'keep thinking this fire hydrant is a dude up until its in my face' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'get all ready to fight and shit lols' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'oh that reminds me.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses. Money itself isn't lost or made, it's simply transferred from one perception to another. -- Gordon Gekko' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'true story' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmm, the flash is a pretty good show.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'does it have barry?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'sure does.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'cool' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'is it on yt?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, first season is almost over.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'cable too?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'whichever channel the arrow is on.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'gotta look it up' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'normally dont like new stuff but people here have good taste' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: '12 monkeys is another good show.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'bleh' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'loved the movie' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'nod, the movie was awesome' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the tv show is even better.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'how does it compare as a show?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it goes more in depth of how it happened.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'ya was a very vague and subtle movie' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'kind of creepy really' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'ever see Vikings ?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Gotham started kinda slow, but now is going pretty good.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i cant watch that ' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'was talking about remakes etc one day..was a little rant' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fravardin: 'could I please be filled in on the arrow, the last I saw it, Oliver got stabbed' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I wouldnt exactly call it a remake' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'told my wife they should ruin batman by making it a show and calling it something stupid like gotham' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'so now i wont watch until its over' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hehe' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I was kinda disappointed that it wasnt about Batman :p' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'it is more like Smallville than batman....' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'should have made a show called arkham like the asylum' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'showed the criminal history of gotham before batman' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'then they could have focused on the fun crazies of the world' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'like hillary clinton' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'batman is proof that we are a few chemicals away from the joker' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'no more titanium dioxide donuts!!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lets put a smile on that face :)' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it'll suck if hilary gets the job' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'no it wont' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how will it not?' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'she has so much plastic surgery it'll be like those safety buddy dolls you can get for the car...' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'umm she fell down and hit her head' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'didnt seem to help much' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'raaza dont worry, i'm sure the secret service knows how to prevent falls' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'ask about bhengazi and shes like what does it matter!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'shrug, barbara bush said stuff like that too' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i never had sexual relations with bhengazi!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'raaza unless he wore a mask.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'do you really wanna be on the same leash as bill' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i bet she makes him sleep in a chest in the basement with a gimp outfit like pulp fiction' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 2/3 Flying VampireDude: 'raaza i think real gimp outfits have more zippers' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'hes got a good zipper on his mouth' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'if I'm drunk i can just lean on me and walk the line home to avoid a ticket...see i can do it!' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'I just love my 2 TB DVR.....' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'noooooo, not more rain! the outlook is more heavy rain here tonight......:( I am never going to get that new pasture cleaned of trees at this rate :p' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'at least your aquafers are filling up' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'our drought ended last year, the ground is over saturated now.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'the drought killed off 90% of the trees in that 15 acre part of my property, so I am cutting them down and turning it into a pasture for cows.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'cant you just burn it down' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'have to cut the trees down first, pile them up with a tractor, then burn them.' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScareCrowe: 'nah this is the US, call in a napalm strike' T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'cant use the tractor if the pasture is water soaked from all the rain we have been getting this winter.' T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'Woohoo' T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-state-media-published-putin-in-the-future-2015-3' T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lols ' T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'state media are always doing that' T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the EPA wants to regulate the emissions on backyard BBQ pits now.' T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'good' T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'if you can afford a barbeque or a pool u should be harassed without mercy' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nonsense' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'hmm?' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'defund the EPA, scrap it, hand the power down to individual states' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'oh jeeze' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'put people like chris christie in charge' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'fuck that, he's a fat neocon fucktard' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lols' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'for the sake of global warming he should be killed and rendered down for fuel' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'ya' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'maybe you guys on the other side of the water should immigrate here and show us how its done' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'tired of seeing someone win for the 6th time to the nth degree' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'can we gas you all first to clear the trash out?' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'i would' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lols' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if not, i would venture that it's a problem you're going to have to solve yourself' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'gmos not fast enough for my taste' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wut?' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'that other one was a miss comm' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'was talking about grand old globals' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'll pretend to know what that means' T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'global quests was a miss comm unimportant and irrelevant' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'this new thing that youtube does. or chrome or google or whatever.- you search for a vid, you find a vid, you click the vid, you start watching the vid.. then you move the mouse away and they think you want to read the comments and the page scrolls down... any thoughts?' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'WHAR birf cert mr. cruz!!!' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Irya: 'What?' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'that guy is gonna ross perot all over the republican party' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'what if arizona had passed that law that you had to show your long form birth certificate :)' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'paco would be in mucho troublo' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'if you didn't know Irya Cruz is running for president and he wasn't born in the US. he was born in Calgary. however is is a natural born U.S. citizen because his mother was a citizen.' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'a well placed comma would have made my last sentence better.' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'he wasnt born on a military base was he? i could see that being important' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'military base in canada?' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'I'm sure we have a lot of those' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'we do have a lot, i dont keep track..' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Madcatz waits for someone to link to Wikipedia showing that there are in fact, a lot. T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I don't think so. I don't think we have a base there and his father wasn't a citizen at the time. It is possible, but I don't think so.' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'who cares where he was born' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'apprently he did, for the longest..' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'we should just give everything to immigrants whether they are citizens or not' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'OBONGO!!!' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'the boarder is wide open brother, bengazhi, fast an furios, email gate..when will we start winning the info war' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'lols' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'when we get money' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'as much or more then whats being given to the medis' T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Raaza: 'media' T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elchanan: 'Utah is putting use of firing squad back on the books to be used to implement death penalty.' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'eh. these youtube recommendations. was going to look for a nice educational masterclass and there is "alcoholic simulator" vid.. it has happened so many times. someone should sue them.' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'If you didn't know quite how detached and out of control the "establishment" is from the government and it's people, then this example from the UK is enlightening: A police whistleblower came forward today to offer proof that for years, a special branch of the metropolitan police had been making dossiers and spying on leading members of parliament, labelled "Subversives", including Jack Straw, a cabinet minister in charge of the Home Office (analogous to the position held in the USA by Eric Holder)' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'thats it, lets burn the whole system down and live like we did in the stone age' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's 'a' solution, though not necessarily the best' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'enlighten me to what the 'best' one is' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't think there is a best one' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'though cutting out the establishment would need to be a central part of any plan' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'Ok, back to killing things with fire' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'maybe some kind of localised government is the solution' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'that would be terrible, there would be no standardization and capitalism would run rampant' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'capitalism has run rampant even with standardization' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the two are not connected' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'they were seperate ideas. There would be a ton more effects also that would be terrible, but that is with any system' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the only way capitalism isn't a problem is if you don't have it' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '(which also doesn't work)' T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Just watching a program about archaeology where they call years of ancient time such-and-such BCE, as opposed to BC. That sort of revisionism irritates me.' T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what on earth is BCE?' T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'before common era I think' T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'BC for PC people' T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'or Basic Chess Endings' T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'for retarted people then?' T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it has to be a crutch for retarded people, because sane thinking people would know what BC stands for and would be able to cope with the fact it's an arbitrary calendar point' T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'debating. good or bad?' T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'debators. cool or lame?' T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'should transgender students be allowed to choose what restroom they want to use? (public schools)' T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'its actually happening at our kids school.. they are letting a boy in a dress use the girls room' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope, they should not let transgender kids use different gender bathrooms' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crunchy Granola: '24 hours later' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if society is going to decide that it is appropriate to let children change genders on a whim, then it should provide additional "unisex" bathrooms for those that are neither :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hey, i wasn't here!' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i wanted to make my racism count!' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crunchy Granola: 'hah' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crunchy Granola: 'at the same time...theyre just children. Theyre not trying to peek in one other children...theyre just trying to do what makes them comfortable. Not sure how i feel about it either way but i can see the logic in that.' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'err, children are the worst offenders at peeking in on other children' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in other news, the pharmaceutical industry, being advertisers on popular networks like FOX, are implicated once more in a mass killing - this time of 150 passengers onboard the Germany airlines flight' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in other news, Google has intensified it's war on non-establishment media by blocking all monetisation on pages/videos that it deems contains content not suitable for children' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'beyonce's vagina and kim kartrashians arse are not affected' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'So, the US has laws that allows businesses to not serve people if they feel like it goes against their religion/religious views. People are up in arms over it like it is something special. In the world of business, if people wish to not serve anyone, then they will go somewhere else and there is a good chance that business will not make it due to a bad word of mouth.' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'exactly why that bill was a stupid time wasting endevour' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Not really, it protects the business from being sued from someone who wants to make a quick buck because their sad ass cannot get over the fact the business would not serve them. Just go somewhere else.' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'no. businesses could already choose to serve people. many places have signs that even promote their right to ask someone to leave. this new bill made it so they can do that based on religion alone.' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'That is why I am for laws like that to protect a business's right to do what they wish and deal with the public relations afterward. It is like with free speech. You have the right to say what you want, but you have to deal with the repercussions of your words.' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'i.e Hey you muslimers go somewhere else!' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'na this new bill just made descrimination legal, thats why it'll be overturned and it wasn't a federal law just one of our states.' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tiklmelmo: 'discrimination is perfectly legal' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tiklmelmo: 'as long as you don't discriminate against certain protected classes' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'touche' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tiklmelmo: 'unfortunately, sexuality is not one of those classes in most states' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gigglefluff: 'you can descriminate against the gays, but then your life will be far less fabulous' T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'The bad part about the lawsuit about same sex marriage that is being looked at by the Supreme Court is that it more or less beyond their scope. The Legislative Branch is suppose to address this, not the Judicial Branch.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why do the judicial branch have a right to dictate who gets married?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sounds like a grotesque overreach of government to me' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'what part of dic do you not understand?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'it is one big cock fight' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'drunk in charge? not sure how it applies here' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'nothing more nothing less, never has been never will be' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'government should get out of the business of marriage, they should recognise in law a permanent relationship between two adults and leave the arse-rapery to the people' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you want to to be a society-destroying aids spreading bum molestor, that's not the governments business' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'debate but the church wont get their dick out of the governments arse to use your phraseing' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'churchs love goverment.. they can brainwash their zombies to vote how they want, then claim seperation and run their tax evasion tactics' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'your government and your churches insist on jamming dicks in each others ears' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'so fuck all you british bangers' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're basically the same thing' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'government IS a religion' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'in war we trust' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's part of your problem' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'your/our/everyones' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'should have let your little clown island go down, hey' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) B Ologn: 'Breasts vs Butts: Go.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and now we basically have a proxy war developing between Saudi and Iran' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'butt.. who wants to be banging a soft flabby mess..' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i wish it would, Arnica, then we could kick a bunch of the shitheads off it' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'its why i dont really dig white girls, it looks like you fkin a dude when they all oval and flat' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) B Ologn: 'I also think butts.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all - empires - fall. Yours is right now, but look on the bright side - it's a fine view' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'global warming will take care of you arses' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all except the holy roman empire - that didn't fall, it sank (was the holes)' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes, i'm terrified of the imaginary global warming' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the UK so completely couldn't cope with being a degree warmer' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'its cold out right now...chessmate libtards' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'hahahaha as it is 92 right now' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '46F here and strong winds' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's like we're on an atlantic coast in early spring or something' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'with a strong gulf stream' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'dumbass deniers' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're called scientists, dear' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'they are called paid off asshole' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're confusing scientists with politicians' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'you are confusing brains with oatmeal' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'brains are tastier' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'don't go down there, it'll be like trying to argue if God exists' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'see yoveeaten yours' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'zombie nutcase' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's offensive to zombies' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'simply descriptive' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'now give me 10 hail obamas as penance and then suck on Al Sharptons toes' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you could avoid being racist, Tigernuts.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd worry far more about the poisoning of the environment, loss of biodiversity, and overpopulation if i were you' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'antibiotic resistance, environmental factors that actually matter' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica does 25 Hail Hillarys and one say wut! T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'fascist!' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'you had that preloaded for any response you bot' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'every time someone mentions that vile lesbian?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'bot' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'sexist evil mutafuckin bot' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sexist?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'did you just not denigrate lesbians ?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i suppose lumping lesbians and hilary together was a tad harsh' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'especially since the her sexual orientation is beside the point.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what point is it beside? a big pointy devils horn dildo?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Right, matters nothing to the zombie nutcase. Shotgun, polease.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or is it beside a dead babies femur dildo?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you can't have a shotgun, Hilary banned them all' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'thats not true' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not yet she hasn't :-)' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'try to keep your crazy hyperbole to somewhat factual..you're crazy enough' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the democrats have agreed to sign the UN small arms treaty. Despite the fact they have zero chance of passing in your legislatory branch, the fact is the intent remains' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but i was being silly, but please move along' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and one thing isn't silly is Hilary is a lying, scheming, underhanded fraud, completely unsuited to high office. SHould she be elected i'd suggest you leave' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'sorry, everything you say is silly..its hard to decipher whats a joke,trolling, or right wing garrbo' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'fruad?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nogs, fruad' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'examples?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: '19th century salesman' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'anyone who thinks it's 'appropriate' to conduct affairs of state on a private email server located in their house isn't fit for -any- kind of office' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yes, she was the first to ever do that..' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i dont know why i engage you, its like talking to a wall..bye' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'you are an uninformed idiot' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'lets put it in perspective, Nixon was indicted and avoided prison by resigning for having personal files of a few people i his safe' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so at the bringing up of a practical issue, the response is "gah, no point talking to you"' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then i'm afraid you get the government you deserve' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Tigernuts Yes, with you, yes' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'You are just fuckingignorant of the system' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'what do you think is so scary in her personal emails?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i mean did she plan 9/11??? omg we'll never know, maybe she caused cancer!' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'You have these wierd little ideas about how it should be that are so ridiculously out of place' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'is poor judgement, and we dont know what all she turned over...but what are you so scared of?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Well no, it was a bunch of arabs known to the intelligence services with the backing of the Saudi government. And did she cause cancer? She IS cancer' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Your argument amounr=ts to "Bite me" so I say "Eat me" get iot?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Gruagach. If you worked at any mid level or higher job in a corporation and go court running parallel communications on a homebuilt server, you would be subject to investigation, probable sanction, and likely firing' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'you think every email ceo's send are from their company account?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'You clearly work at the municipal streetsweeping level' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'you know her secruity was topnotch on this "home brew" server..' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'no dissing municipal streetsweepers, please, they do an important job' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'she was the minister in charge of foreign policy, you don't get to play at parallel construction' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I apologize profusely to all municipal streetsweepers, that was SO rude of me' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'THERE COULD BE ANYTHING IN THOSE EMAILS!! *clutchs pearls*' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you bitch and moan about Chinese hacking and Snowden leaks, then Hilary goes and does something retarded like this' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'what if.. she just used poor judgement and there isnt any nefarious intentions? you know she hasnt broken any law right' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BENGHAZI!' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's not poor judgement' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'did you just compare her email to what the tratior snowden did? wow' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'shit for brains, not even a zombie would have it' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's a criminal and pre-meditated breach of policy' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you go work for the police or the intelligence services and then conduct your business using a private email server and see how long you last' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'pre-meditated?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'whats funny is, even if you are trolling..there are right wing derpers tha tbeleive that shit' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes, pre-meditated' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'ignorance is no excuse' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'stay scared' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'OK, OK meds time, meds time' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'gross misconduct, she should be barred from holding any future public office' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'what did she actually do in your mind though' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'she used a private email server to conduct her job' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'totally fuckerd j=him up , what?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'which was not only insanely STUPID, but also against the law' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'and she condued her job poorly? no. did she do anything as head of state that would be considered a crime? no.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'not against the law' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes, it was against the law' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'maybe should be, but don't be confused' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought. T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you have a law that requires you hand over all official communications and papers upon leaving office' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'she did not' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'which one? wait, no it's not' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'she did' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'She used a private email server. Then only turned over partial documentation. Then when curiosity arose shit got deleted... ya I see that as shady I wouldnt want her in office.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'oh wait, maybe she didnt so lets all be scared' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BENGHAZI!' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i agree to a point, it is shady.. but its not proof of anything by itself.. i mean, she did a fine job as head of state' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'is it hard to beleive that maybe she did a good job? ' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'or is that too scary' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i don't think she did a good job' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but that's not really the issue, either' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Gruagach Listen to yourself. You just sugessted' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'proof?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'or wait.. lack of proof is now proof..i get it' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'so the issue isn't how she perfromed her job' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'or her actions' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Im not sure what being scared has to do with it. If a public official shows obvious signs of dishonesty its probably a good time to move on and look twords more trustworthy officials.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'rather an honest fool than an arrogant fool' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what wars said' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'gross incompetence, gross misconduct, illegality' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Gruagach Listen to yourself. You just sugessted, you actually suggested, that a WOMAN did a good job.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'a DEMORAT' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'women in office can do a good job, Thatcher mostly did' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Gruagach Listen to yourself. You just sugessted, you actually suggested, that a DEMOCRAT WOMAN did a good job.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I can't breathe' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'to be fair i dont think either of those points really matter..i think it shows poor judgement but i dont understand why so many people are up in arms over it' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'they act like she is the first public offical ever to use personal email while in office..' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Well one could word it differetly and say that someone who shows signs of poor judgment should not be in office as well.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i mean maybe.. but i think she's done a fine job in her public roles' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Gruagach, in a society where the police are being militarised, black people are squaring up against authority because of racism and brutality, where privacy has been hijacked and mass surveillance is being brought in under the fake threat of terrorism, YOU can't see why people would have a problem with the secretary of state driving a fucking planet through security and transparency policy and them say "WHaaatt? I didn't do anything wrong"' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i useally judge people on their actions, not some buzzword' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'to use your earlier comment: I can't tell if you're just trolling, or a left-wing retard' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'alex jones..is that you? can i buy some suplments and a water filter' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Listen dudes, i am sixty. I have worked for women all my life. My first boos was a Women Air Force flyer, toug as nails, and it went that way my whole career, more women than men leading me to make the big bombs to make the big guns, so screw it.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm 100% in the middle, i've never voted because it doesn't matter.. i just think its funny how people put their personal bias on everything' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it is funny, isn't it?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i see both sides, people that dismiss the email like its not a big deal..it is a big deal, but it just doesn't mean the samething to me than it does to you' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'you are not, you are scary dude' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i have a big problem with politicians and the establishment, stories like this prove that tehy aren't doing themselves any favours' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd personally have done with the lot of them, from both sides of the puppet show' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'does that help?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and if you want truly scarey zombie wing-nut, go take a look at Lindsey Graham' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'yep what I said, your island would be underwater from apathy and good riddance' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'harry reed is fun for a chuckle' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'ahh, but harry is going - he's made his money flogging off other people's land to the Chinese, now he's fucking off before anyone indicts him for it' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'they all make money in office, thats the point' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he saw the writing on the wall and is now getting his ass the hell away from that stick' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Im not saying voting makes a huge difference. But people with strong political opinions that dont vote remind me of a dog humping a couch.... he might be having fun but he isnt getting anywhere.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's all well and good, Wars, but you end up with a couch covered in dog cum' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'we have medical cases where weed is helping medicate people with some serious diseases, and we cant change the schuedle..' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there's a bill being entered this year to do just that' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'and may god , what no american has any more, pension for life t full salary' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'with bi-partisan sponsorship' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i prob spend 4 hours a day reading/listening to news and poltics..its intresting how crazy it all is..but shit none if it ever matters.' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it won't pass, however, because you still have a very large chunk in your legislature from both sides that are bought off by pharmaceutical industry money' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or have wonky christian electorate' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or both' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah no drugs..meanwhile on some rssi and take an amben to sleep' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'more people die of tynole posioning every year than thc' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'meanwhile, take SSRi and fly a plane of 150 people into a mountain' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and that's just fucking dandy!' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'ban planes!' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'that shit drives me nuts, when there is a shooting and everyone loses their shit over guns' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if Arnica gave half a shit over the environment, he would ban planes' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what, the fact that nearly every mass shooting in the US in the last 2 decades has been by someone on SSRi's?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i dont know if thats a fact' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it is' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'or proves anything' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'but it is something that should be studied at least' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i mean, they all drank water too...' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm not saying its nothing, but the link needs to be proven ' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that the side effects list "suicidal or violent impulses" as a rare side effect?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what's more likely to blame? Lack of appropriate mental healthcare/SSRi side effects, or gun culture?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'but do they put that because it causes that or because our legal system is so fucked they have to defend themselves from every possible outcome..has it been proven they actual lead to that' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'nice straw man.. but to answer your question, i dont think it has anything to do with gun culture' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's a strawman argument either way' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we have no guns, but just as many mental health lunatics killing people' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'tiger, you know what blows my mind' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'colin powell never once got call on the carpet for using private email' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'people respected him' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'people just want to hate hiliary' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'she's got the reputation she deserves' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i mean..its the day and age' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'slanted biased media on a daily..you start to hate someone for no reason' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'from her conduct in the Nixon trial it was obvious she couldn't be trusted' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'her conduct over Benghazi was just... bizarre' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah.. so obvious she spent her entire life in public service..' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you need a much safer pair of hands in that role' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'she's just another career politician/legal shyster that we could do without' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i hope you, like me, will want to condone Saudi Arabia for trying to develop nuclear weapons and want to impose sanctions on it' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'even conservative states are looking to adopt some form of medical pot laws. prohibition is almost at a end when it comes to potquit' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'whooops' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'whooops' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'jebus.. time for bed' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'maybe we should deep freeze all our dead people. to have enough to wake them, revive, cure them and colonize the universe.. later?' T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'Topic for debate: Rhode Island is neither a road nor an island. Discuss.'