T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: and they will take all the damage so you don't need more stats
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: mis
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: So, AT&T, Verizon, Comsucktic, Charter, and so on are going to be suing over the Title II change.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: yea, expected, but doubt they get anywhere
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: least of your worries, really
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Feds are going to be taxing the crap out of everyone's internet now.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's also the least of you worries :-)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Internet will die?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Rates will go up.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Service will become Comcast standard.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but among the possibilities are that it'll cease to be anonynmous, you may need a license to publish, and will be constrained as to what you can post
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: not really very anonymous as it is now
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: even tor has been cracked
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sure it is
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: license to publish ?!?  -
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it takes effort to crack tor
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if internet ID becomes mandatory, all traffic will be directly attributable to you
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: i can see a huge backlash if that happens tho
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: fake id -- like burner-phones
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: so much of internet traffic is private business that people dont want to be associated with
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't think the establishment gives a monkies about your backlash because if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fea
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fear*
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: the whole reason for this is because of backlash
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: against cable giants
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for what?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: terrible service, area monopolies
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, makes sense
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those in authority are corrupt -- every citizen requires to hide their valuable from corruption
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The region monopolies are insane. Comcast/Time Warner/Charter basically locked down areas where no other service provider can come in.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: yea i just have Charter around here. We use shit ATT dsl to avoid them
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: utility infrastructure is an issue
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: better than charter tho
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's an issue in the UK just as much as it is over there. You can't have anything other than a monopoly, cartel, or nationalisation of monolothic infrastructure
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: -50
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: well hopefully now local municipals can start laying fiber
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Local and State Regulations pushes by those companies basically make it extremely difficult for pure internet providers like Google and so on from trying to build an infrastructure up.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Title II blocked municipals from laying their own fiber.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the FCC likely did the right thing, (except for the mandatory id crap)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: its such a crappy balance of power between money grubbing corporations and power grabbing politicians
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: FCC preventing municipalities from laying their own fibre may be bad
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: are they doing that?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: blocking Google from building infrastructure isn't necessarily a bad thing
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: i didnt know anyone was blocked from any infrastructure improvments
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: i though that was the whole point of this really
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: since big companies had no incentive to pay for it
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what if you want to lay fibre within your own house -- requiring FCC approval may be bad
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the point was to stop providers charging different rates for different traffic
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: they were price fixing with each other anyway
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: speaking of... i need to call ATT, tell them I'm leaving their service so they put me back on the discounted plan.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's good, i had to phone my bank to tell them to take their stupid contactless debit card and give me a proper one without it
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I mispoke. State laws blocked municipals from laying their own fiber due to lobbying by Comcast and similar companies. Title II was suppose to address that, but it did not. On a side note, the city of Chattanooga, Tennessee, which offers citizens 1Gbps service.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They just cannot expand it due to Comcast and similar lobbying.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: blocking Google is likely bad - although Google is crap compared to Wikipedia or Bing
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is no right answer with regards to utility provision
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're always going to have issues
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: definitely
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: explain what Title II addresses, if "Title II was suppose to address that, but it did not" 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: however, giving the FCC so much power allows a back door to those nasty things without any kind of congressional oversight
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Comcast/Charter/Time Warner started offering phone service so they would not have to jump through hurdle to have access to telephone poles and utility conduets.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: i worked for charter when they implemented their digital phone service
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: was around the beginning of 2005
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: i was like, why the heck are they pushing phone service? less and less people have land line
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how does Comwavetv.com phone work - their website does not explain anything much - is an internet account required 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 15$us per month for phone access with most features seems far cheaper than land-line rates which are likely double that rate
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i pay 16 euros for 50 Mbit land-line
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: seem communications industry is more about profits than providing service -- but if they want a monopoly, the service is supposed to come first, with profits second
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a monopoly protected by government is not supoosed to be a carte-blanche to gouge the public
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ma Bell was the reason for the Title II Act.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (supposed)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Turie, that "Bell was the reason for the Title II Act" was 'Tigernuts obscure'  {"And Cause never was the reason for the evening" - America) 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 'Tigernuts obscure' is when Tigernuts posts something dubious and does not back up the dubious observation with a credible explanation or adequate references (and youtube is neither a credible nor coherent explanation - "where's the beef (printed test)!")
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if i look up a dictionary or encyclopedia, unlikely to contain youtube references, (as youtube references are undigested and inadequate)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: annotated classics are usully superior to ordinary books -- the average human until adequately educated is unlikely to be able to digest the content of a book properly
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so do you post obscurities to boost your ego, or do you post coherent explanations to educate, { or (in the case of terrorists-in-training) do you rabblerouse with twisted-deceits to cause mayhem chaos and more of the same contagion }
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (yet even terrorists-training provide an education to those aware enough to perceive through their deceits)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (-in-training)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: glad i missed the hysterics
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: what hysterics?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the Xyliz hysterics
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Were those hysterics? I thought he was channeling you
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: odd, i don't tend to do ad-hominems
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nice that i get the blame though, now i know how Lithuanians feel
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: is gmcp vital.moves and gmcp maxstats.moves the right way of using the mv value from the prompt? im getting an error saying attempt to do arithmatic on a nil value
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: its working for hp and mana
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: or it was..
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: seems to have stopped again :(
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: any gmcp knowledgeable folk around? please take a look at this and tell me why im not seeing max values for hp mana moves : http://pastebin.com/9cLCzT7s
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuli Zhu Anaristos Tech: it's xxxx.maxmana etc
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: its maxstats.maxmana
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuli Zhu Anaristos Tech: right
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: turn on gmcpdebug to see the table
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: gmcpdebug 2
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: gmcpdebug 0 to turn it back off
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuli Zhu Anaristos Tech: or look at the stuff in the wiki :)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki has everything you need to know the tables
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the left sidebar, "client protocols"
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: i checked there and im using gmcp vitals
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: oops
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vitals has the current levels but not the maxes
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: vitals is my match for displaying the values in the test plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: it was a typo :P
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: grrr, since when does linux keep you from doing stupid things?!
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ok so i tried something simpler (the immediate window) but i get an error message: http://pastebin.com/CiLJ42zm
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: wth?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmcpval only exists in the context of the gmcphelper plugin, you can't just call it
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the onpluginbroadcast part of GMCP plugins, an important bit is "CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval","char")"
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's telling your plugin to run a function from a different plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: i have that in there for my test plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but not in your "immediate"
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: but i get a run time error when it fires
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: yes i given up on that now
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: the immediate i mean
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok good, plugins are best for GMCP stuff ;-)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://laravel.io/bin/8K347
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for your OnPluginBroadcast section, did you just copy the one from my quaffer plugin?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: this function will return the maxstats as an lua table when it is called
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that shouldn't be in that function...the "get" stuff is all in the OnPluginBroadcast...and you'll want it to just be "char" rather than "char.maxstats"...
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: just change the char.maxstats if you need anything other than the maxstats
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: this is my test plugin and the error message i get when the match fires, im lost with it now : http://pastebin.com/SsVPFVdE
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: oh
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: yes i did copy from yours
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: abelinc, you're wrong. this function does exactly what the function name tells us
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: abe is never wrong
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no need for plugin broadcast... 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jedhi: the problem is when it does it
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's done wrong, and should be done right
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: he's been known to be wrong.. I have it logged
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: plugin broadcast is for the situation when you wanna receive the gmcp value when it is updated
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is what is required
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: when Abe is wrong it's actually that he is right, and the world is wrong -- sooner or later it will catch up
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: all im trying to do is display basic gmcp data at the time the alias matches
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: http://pastebin.com/SsVPFVdE
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...first, change if (text == "char.vitals") then to if (text == "char") then
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: you allready get the gmcpdata variable
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://laravel.io/bin/ok2bw
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: this is fired only on the event when vitals are updated
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so it comes down to your application... do you need to do something on update or just to get the information from gmcp
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in case you need this information inside an alias call, then you should not use plugin boradcast
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I save the old output and compare new to old and only process the intersection. The little time that takes to do this is way compensated by the little processing time required to handle the sequence.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: both, jedhi
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuli Zhu Anaristos Tech: too bad gmcp doesn't have a native update mode :)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: in my test i just want to display current hp mn moves AND max hp mana moves then in the quaffer plugin im trying to create i want it to update every round of combat
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: if you only look for changes then that is done automatically since hp/mana and sometimes moves change frequently during combat.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ok so i removed the plugin broadcast bit and im getting the same error about nil parent passed to get_gmcp
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://laravel.io/bin/8K347
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: check if you can get this working
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ýou should get lua table
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: http://pastebin.com/nMCuykiP
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: are you sure gmcpval is supposed to work like this? i have never used it before
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: getting same error with your code after the <![CDATA[ tag
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: idk im new to all this, its what abe said
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: /did
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: one sec, i'll give you a plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: works in his quaffingh plugin but I'm trying to either modify it or make my own but im failing miserably because i cant get GMCp stuff to work
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ok, thanks :)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://laravel.io/bin/vBmOV
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: this will output vitals and maxstats
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: install and use test as a command
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: figured that much out :)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am not sure, who gave you the code snippets before... there is no way this would worked
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it just does not make any sense at all
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: so instead of char.vitals and char.maxstats i can use vitals.hp and maxstats.maxhp etc?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: or would it be char.vitals.hp and char.maxstats.maxhp ?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://laravel.io/bin/yGYoR
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ty :)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: there is no rocket science here, just need to know the basics
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and not to listen to people who have no clue what they are talking about :)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: i know its not rocket science but when i think i've figured something out then try it and it doesnt work and not really understand why its very frustrating
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: nod, and there is a serious lack of documentation here
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: like now I still cant get it to display moves and max moves
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: let me try just hp and mana
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: and max hp and mana
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Note("Current mana: " .. vitals.mana)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: What are you trying to request from that script Jedhi sent you?  What is the gmcp string?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: getFromGmcp("char.vitals") will return all your vitals as a lua table
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I'm just curious what he's changing.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: you create and variable vitals and assign this lua table to it
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: vitals = getFromGmcp("char.vitals")
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: now you can use it as vitals.hp, vitals.mana and so on
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: same story with the maxstats
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: jedhis xml file works for current hp and max hp but when i add mana and max mana it gives an error
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Have you looked at the GMCP page for aardwolf?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and if you really want to understand things, start with http://lua-users.org/
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: without lua basics, you will not get very far
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: do you have any coding experiece?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: not really, a little bit
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well, then start with just lua... forget the aardwolf part
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I highly recommend running through an actual tutorial or beginners course instead of bulldozing through stuff you don't understand like this.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: im trying to use vitals.mana, maxstats.mana, vitals.moves and maxstats.moves
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: the same as jedhi used vitals.hp and maxstats.hp
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: I have learnt most of Lua
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: vitals.mana is working... you just have somekind of scripting error there
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: Ive been at it for just over a weeek now
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: eh, even i do not know the most of lua. it is a huge language
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: ...I really doubt you learned most of it...
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: in one week
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: well, most of the basics i meant
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i think i only know perhaps one or two percent of it, as i am using it only with mush
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some actors, almost anything they say is funny, and the scene likely helps (subliminal tones in the voice or visual clues in the background) [and that said .. looks for a barf bag]
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: like if, elseif the 4 loops, logical and or not, functions, tables and started on built in finctions
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: luanewb ok, please create an lua table and add some variables with keywords to it
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: a hint: you must insert them after creating the table. i think the reason why you can't use vitals.mana is because you do not know the basics
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and even not the syntax
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: darn, must change the color of Quote to something different to Tech 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: lol, I figured that was a mis
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: I understand that tprint(vitals) and tprint(maxstats) creates 2 tables, each containing keys and each key containing a variable which in this case is GMCP data
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no, tprint just iterates over the nodes inside the table and prints out each node
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it prints pre-existing tables...
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: so someone please tell me what on earth is wrong with this because I just dont understand.. explain to me why it works for the first 2 when it's just the first 2 there and not with the 4 added and more importantly why, surely im pulling and printing from the same table? I've spent about 16 hours on GMCP now trying to print values to the screen : http://pastebin.com/mBmAbxj6
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: im tearing my hair out
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 16 hours is quite a lot
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no maxstats.mana value, it's maxstats.maxmana, same for the others...
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: did you just loop around to step 1?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: what jedhi said would be looping to step 1
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: but ive finally got it to work
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: gratz
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: GMCP is just a protocol for sending data from the MUD.. it's pretty simple really.  All you really need to know is that it comes in table format.  You just need to know what to request and what the keys are.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: within these tables, everything is a hierarchy...how you reference things depends on where you began in the hierarchy...
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so in one place, you can call a value just "mana", in another you'd have to call it vitals.mana, and in another you would have to call it char.vitals.mana, all depending on what you used to populate
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that can get confusing when you're looking at 3 plugins which all use the same core data, but reference them differently
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: thats the trouble i didnt know what they keys holding the variables were, it's not very well documented on the wiki
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: now i know
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: How could it be better documented?  It's very clear.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's extremely well documented on the wiki
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: at least for hp mana and moves
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every key is listed
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: then i must have missed something
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you did
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the "char" section, you'll see "char.base", "char.vitals", etc...so that gives you the first and second atoms for the keys...in the vitals section, it gives you the full output of char.vitals { "hp": 100000, "mana": 90000, "moves": 41599 }...so HP is char.vitals.hp...in maxstats it gives you char.maxstats { "maxhp": 50099, "maxmana": 50029, "maxmoves":....telling yuou that it's char.maxstats.maxhp, char.maxstats.maxmana, etc.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: damn i feel stupid
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: its right there near the top, i was looking further down
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you weren't looking in the "char" section for the char values?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: in fact thats correct abe
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: table of contents ftw
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: i now see : http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, jedhi gave that link today, I gave the path to that link the other day
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: beofre i was looking at : http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's an application page, not a protocol page
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Luanewb :/
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: oh well, got there in the end
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ty abe + jedhi
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Ironically, the maxstats.maxmana problem is answered on that page as well.  ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it does give the full char table
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: And gives a very clear example of how to request GMCP data from the GMCP plugin and what it will look like.  You would do well to read that page carefully as well.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: it was late last night when i started with this and i was tired and ive barely slept (like normal) and still very tired, makes it hard
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then quit it so that you can actually learn properly :P
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: makes it even harder when lua is my first language and harder still when things are done slightly uniquely within MUSH
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: ESL, snigger
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: thats the thing though abe im keen to learn even though its tough at the start grasping the principles of coding and scripting
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you'll not learn jack if you can't think
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're slowing down your learning by doing this, not helping anything at all
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ive learnt lots since i started
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you've screwed up lots more because you're overtired and staring at the same mistakes repeatedly
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: im always overtired
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: nothing changes there
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you're choosing not to correct the underlying problem
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ive tried
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: and i keep trying
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: But you are too eager to have something here, working, that you're wasting time trying to have Tech be your personal tutorial when you should be running through an ACTUAL tutorial on coding.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: last couple of days .. bad example but the rest of the time...
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: There are some core concepts you still lack that most people that try to help here will assume you possess.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: tech channel is not the best place. join #lua on freenode
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: well have you ever programmed in any other language then lua?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: these guys know it all and are willing to help you with snipets and other stuff you need. leavy only the gmcp stuff here
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: I have kept most of my Lua learning to self taught from tutorials
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: have you programmed in another language?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i do not think he has
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: its the GMCP ive been stuck with and no cryos
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yeah then it can be confusing 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: heck it confuses me sometimes =)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: i bought the Lua ebook
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i just google
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: its cheaper
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: been to countless URl's for different things to learn
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but if i were you, i would forget writing plugins here and rather just stick with lua
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: GMCP data is presented as a table.  As Abe pointed out, it comes in whatever heiarchy you request.  All the way from the base "char" down to "char.vitals.hp"  It doesn't really get much more complicated than that.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: you would have one problem less to worrie about
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mush is not very programmer friendly environment
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yeah its very niche
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, there isn't a plugin that you've tried to write that doesn't already exist, so you can learn the language outside of MUSHclient/aard with a lot less complexity
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: unless he wants to do something illegal :P
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Well, those exist too.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jedhi laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyways when i start with lua i first installed the language on my computer and starting just playing with it
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ive done lots of : if elseif else for while do repeat until break. I've done a bit of : tables functions built-in functions. I havn't done any : meta-tables
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: I've also done lots of : logical and or not
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: so I'm getting there
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: bit by bit, unique programming command by unique programming command#
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: learn the for loop very useful
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: and while loop as well
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: done for loops, done while loops
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: maybe ill go practice those
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: and learn more about tables
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: learn linked lists =)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: is that table related?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: and basic sorting algorithms
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: a linked list can be a table
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: a bag sorting routine is a good basic effort
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ok, bfn everyone! and ty for being patient and helpful
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: it is very very appreciated
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: well first think of a sorting algorithm, any one, and try to make it lol... and it will fall into a certain category for them
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I'd like to make eqs create a set out of what is worn already, without having to type each serial wear bag etc
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: good luck =P
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: figure probably need to look in db eh?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: heh
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it's doable.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: make an aliase
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: look at existing bast and other plugins for eq
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: oh, I'm referring to bast for eqs
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: just don't see an option to do that
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: easiest way is to make a alias
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: eqs noset shows where things not in a set are, like the ones I am wearing
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: you are right Cryos, I will still try this way first ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I can write in python, ruby etc, just not sure how to get it to interact in MUSH
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I'll boot into LInux and check out the sqlite db
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: hrrm .. my cps are weird.. basts event miniwin fails to list the first mob
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: tried reinstalling it and restarting mush, no luck
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: might be something wierd about the first mob... or just didn't catch it
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: thought so too.. but this is the third cp in a row with the same issue
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: do cp check again and see if it loads it
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: oh lol it did.. been trying 'cp c' a million times, never thought about typing it all out :P
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: something is still messed up though.. killing another mob triggered the issue again
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: could be lag that is causing the issue
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: it also applies to the mapper (s&d lists all mobs with clickable links when one is killed)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i have had it happen once or twice, but usually it fixes itself
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: kk I'll just leave it then :) hoping for the best :D 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: oh, you can also try reseting it, i think its bcp reset
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: restarting mush also throws out a million angry messages with red background from bast...
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: which plugin is throwing the message
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: The spells list was not read correctly from the mud, please reload this plugin with the command 'plugins reload bsst'
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: did type that command, restarting mush still shoots that message.. about one time for each spell in the game.. 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: which plugin is throwing the message?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: I guess xBroadcast_SpellSkills, that's what gets reloaded
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: remove that plugin =P
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: what does it do? is it required for basts spellup plugin? 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: if it is the spllup plugin will tell you
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: nod 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: hrmm anyone knows which bast plugins in included in the standard aardmush install? 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: none
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: thinking of removing them all and reinstalling them.. 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: the abeplug?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's plugins are entirely separate from the aardMUSH
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: zero
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: click on included plugins
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Oh, basts
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: might need to update the plugins... might be out of date
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: acording to basts updatechecker they are up to date
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes, people can be happy in all kinds of circumstances, there is nothing wrong with that.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is it possible to get the mud to report realtime in my timezone?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD doesn't know or care about your timezone
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can script a translation if you want, but that'd be client and not the MUD
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, I was wondering about that
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: would be quite useful
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I am guessing from your question that no one has done it yet...
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you've done enough plugins to be able to d othat
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sure, I could do, although I guess by default lua doesn't have a tz library
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: couldn't you just script something to do it?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades giggles at you.  Hope it's not contagious! 
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuli Zhu Anaristos Tech: lua does. someone has a library out there, forgot who.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't really even need to do anything with realtime...just use the os.time functions and add/subtract from your own system's time
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: not quite that simple, Abe -- I'd want to get the daylight saving working also
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't do daylight savings where you are? (or on different calendar than US?)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: time stands still in my presence
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no we do daylight saving -- but on the same day?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: oh ty Abe almost forgot
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: anyway, it's probably more work that I am likely to go to, to be honest -- it would just be nice for channel -h commands
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and for channel -h that'd be a whole other work script-wise...some channels format their -h differently than others...just realtime would be a single trig substitution
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then what about gq hist and challenge hist, notes, etc.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec nods at Abelinc
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: all this is truee
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd think it's a lot easier to just remember "I'm x hours ahead/behind"...but I'm also extremely unmotivated in that I am on system time :P
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I mean, when Christians were busy burning each other in my country, justifying their action by their religion, it's seems hard not to blame the religion
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: OMG
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: IT WORKS
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: http://pastebin.com/9z23FqSp
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, didja take a nap?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: nah
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: just went and leanred a bit more about tables
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: and tables within tables
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: I modded your autoquaffer plugin abe to also do mana and moves :)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, although it should pretty much never fire on moves
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: the only thing left to do now is to make local percentages and remove the global percentage
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz moves aren't really used
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: useful for pvp/thiefs
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you have some redundant code there but ok
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't quaff in pvp, btw
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ahh well in between pvp then (raids)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it only fires in combat }:>
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: I dont really care lol could be useful to a thief and the most important thing is it works :)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it certainly doesn't hurt to have the functionality, I just don't forsee it ever getting triggered for moves specifically
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: maybe if someones gq'ing solidly for hours..
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: then again maybe not
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: lol
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: err i meant cp'ing
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: bnot gq'ing :p
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ():-)
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Luanewb's head.
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: somehow the mapper cexit output has some text that is the same as it's highlight color, anyone know how to fix that?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nm, links, found it
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: not sure how highlight became that color though
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: h-h
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: oops sorry
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ok so i have a trigger to match 'k *' that then tries to use an alias 'cs' (abbreviation for cast spell) but doesn't work, what can i do?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: this is for ww s&d btw
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wouldn't use a trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use an in-aard alias, to alias "k" to cast the spell
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: NOTE:  If you want a custom kill action.. make an alias that will trigger on k *This will receive the ak's kill command -- from s&d help
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger != alias
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: well i know that
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then why would you have made a trigger?
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when it tells you to use an alias
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: but it says make an alias that will TRIGGER on k *
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make an alias
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that matches k *
T3/r7/2015-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: lol ok
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elorion Tech: 'mapper purge cexits' does that count for all the area's you have explored or just the area you are currently in?
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as mapper help exits says, it removes all custom exits
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use mapper cexits here to list and mapper delete cexits to systematically delete cexits in a given area
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elorion Tech: specifically, i have some problems with the mapper in the area of 'wood elves of Nalondir'
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elorion Tech: the mapper always sends me through the room 'north' of Overgrown Forest Trail'... but you need a key to pass through... so I don't know how I can avoid the mapper of doing this...
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elorion Tech: so first idea was to delete all custom exits, but that doesn't help...
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lizza Tech: I set up a level lock on that exit so it doesn't try to use it.
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can set a level lock on that exit if you want
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not a custom exit
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elorion Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elorion Tech: the mapper uses this route as the shortest one...
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, because it is
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elorion Tech: which it is technically speaking, but only if you have the key first
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lizza Tech: mapper lockexit will work.
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elorion Tech: ok thanks, I tried the lockexit
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veata Tech: Anyone know how to auto-rearrange mini-windows on Mushclient? I currently have a mini-window that is currently out of click range. Neither restarting the client nor re-installing the plugin work.
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: what plugin?
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veata Tech: S&D.
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veata Tech: Thank you! :)
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: anyone know what the default font for the outmut of aardmush is? I changed it a while ago and ever since the alignment of everything is off
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedulous Tech: try terminal maybe?
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: thats better, but still not right
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: in fact, its good enough since I only quest from my work computer
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: ty
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyone know of a decent font to use for MUSHclient running wine in Linux?
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: does it have fixedsys?
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I'll look, I"m running Mint, and saw Ubuntu Mono, but couldn't set the font larger
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: old and blind these days
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: larger, kinda clumped together, but I think I can read that
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks, looks like freetype is good
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: I like Consolas - doesnt mess up ascii type stuff but still fairly fashionable
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I like consoles too, just love this mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I'm and old BSD guy, 24 terminals hehe
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: s/and/an/
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: or is consolas a font?
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: heh, yeah Consol(a)s is a font :P
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: guess I'd need to install it to see it
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: the text around the cp check has a light bue highlight, and I can't seem to see the text inside, looking for where to change the highlight color, or it's inner text
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sorr for repeating the question, but I can't seem to figure out the highlight around the cp check output
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Is there a command to remove all cexits for a particular area, instead of one room at a time?
T3/r7/2015-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: I wonder what's the range of the purge command...
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Is it possible to directly avoid the mapper from attempting to use a portal in a certain room, without level locking the portal?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuli Zhu Anaristos Tech: in cmud you just add cost to the exit
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Nothing in MushClient, then?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuli Zhu Anaristos Tech: I have never played with aardmush's mapper.
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for portals (from mapper portals) is possible to take em from bag use it and put it back to bag?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I attach it to an alias to make it easier to change, but you can put the full string in there too
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: if I set a portal to any area, how can I use it if I wanna go there?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: -if- a portal is properly set, the mapper will use it automatically
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: so what command I need to use, i.e runto, rt?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: automatically
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper goto [12345] if you know the number
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i'm told s&d has some area runto commands as well
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper extender adds functionality for "xrt (area)" which executes a mapper goto for the starting room you've set for that area.
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: to use mapper portal I need to go to that room right?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: "mapper portal get 573747669 5232054;wear 573747669;enter;wear 576760191;put 573747669 5232054" for a full command if I am using bagportal?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you're only ever going to be using 576760191 as your equipped portal, then yes, that would work
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lil' Devil Cirion Tech: why do you need mapper in there?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: to set the string in mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lil' Devil Cirion Tech: wouldnt "get 573747669 5232054;wear 573747669;enter;wear 576760191;put 573747669 5232054" do the exact same thing?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: to add the portal to mapper?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wouldnt, mapper portal allows mapper to use that portal
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lil' Devil Cirion Tech: yeah doesnt the mapper have its own command to add portals?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then if you execute mapper goto <room id> mapper will use that portal
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, it's "mapper portal (string)" :p
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: trick question,, which case is the best overall case(desktop) that will allow any motherboard form and still have plenty of room for anything i throw in it ? and  is less than 60 bucks
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: like room for a coffee grinder?
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: im thinking cooler and grapphics cards clearances
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: want the case to last me   dozens of  future builds
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1971143/gaming-case.html
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: im liking fractual design more and more
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: but 100+ is breaking budget
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: anyone know how to fix the following
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: Trigger function "spelltag_on" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: in relation to bast spellup script
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: whats the ip address for google.com? (dns is being a turd)
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: 127.0.0.1
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: obliged
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byzandula Tech: lol
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 74.125.224.64
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byzandula Tech: use google dns 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i was looking up the answer too, but all i was getting was ipv6 addresses
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: heh :P
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gruagach: Start->Run->cmd -> ping google.com
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fastest way.
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byzandula Tech: not if you can't resolve anything.. like the person said, DNS problems
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: 2607:f8b0:4002:c5::71
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Byzandula: I wasn't talking about Redwood doing it. Gru said he was looking it up himself, but was getting ipv6.
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thats what i get when i ping google from this machine.. this is a werid machine i'm on though so who knows
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So I told Gru the fastest way, which was well after providing Redwood the answer he sought.
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byzandula Tech: I ipv6'ed the other day and almost couldn't get back up again.
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ipv6 sucks. Dinner time, though. :D
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: I MUST CONNECT MY WATCH TO MY STOVE!!!
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byzandula Tech: your stove is the matrix
T3/r7/2015-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: there is no stove.
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazoiah Tech: how do I remove channels from main window?
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: right click the commm log window and follow the options
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazoiah Tech: what options?
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: i am tring to make a trigger and its not working i am trying to make a trigger tht i wil open doors if im trying to walk into em do i need to put in full command rhe partial is not working i dont want to have to type one for eachdir? any sugestions?
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: sorry for bad typing
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: This does not directly address your problem, but you have some alternatives. You can setup cexits to deal with this and there is also various spells and potions that allow you to pass through door.
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: yeah, no triggers will work on speedwalks
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Additionally, don't make a trigger to walk through the door. Use an alias.
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: If you want to do a trigger, rather do an alias that opens all doors?
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: so a alias
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: I would go the cexit / passdoor route, but if you want a trigger, rather do an alias, yes.
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: cexit? ho do i set that up?
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Make an alias, name it say, "oa", for "open all" and code the alias as open n / open s / open w, etc.
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: so maybe 'opd' would send op n;op e;op s;opw;op u;op d
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tsunwu is agreeing with that Daddius person again...
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Check out "cexits" though.
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: yeah best to set those up as you run into them, for sure
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Check out: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Command goes something like this: mapper cexit open n (double semi-colon) run n. That will auto open the door north and run you through it.
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: You type that in, in the room where the closed door is.
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: ah so i got to do that in room where closed door ah
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Yup, and just give it a second after you hit enter to register the cexit.
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: Welcome
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frou-frou SorlagPie Tech: Anyone noticed not receiving answers from server while command was handled?
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: on a mac, where would you find an already set up VPN to log into? I can only find stuff on google about how to set up a VPN
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I tried google but google is only telling me how to set one up, not how to connect to one that's been set up
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and I'm not the one on the mac, so I can't just look around :p
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: does someone have or know of a decent spellup tool for mush?
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: bast's seems to work, as did winklewinkle
T3/r7/2015-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: so just to be safe if i close out my client (MUSHclient) will all my windows stay where i moved them?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how do i detect the carriage return in prompt with trigger?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what is the correct match?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: you would need to set it as a multi-line match
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and what is the match? "[\r]$" ?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: reply \r is a carriage return, so [\$] would expect a return at the end of the line.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: [\r]$ rather.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: I would expext "....\r......$" for two lines.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: expect*
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: nope, doesn't work
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: make note that \r is just carriage return, if you want a line-break you use \r\n
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: \r\n will match all endings
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: at the beginning of the regex try a "?s"
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: perl uses that to indicate "treat the input as one line"
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StinkySusan Tech: is there a help file for making buttons
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what client are you using StinkySusan?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StinkySusan Tech: mud from zmud
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: I don't know zmud but maybe someone else will know
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StinkySusan Tech: ty cryos
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: I just tested this pattern: (?s)([^\n]+)\n([^$]+)$ and it worked for me. I tested it with test1\ntest2
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: https://www.zuggsoft.com/zmud/help6/Intr0198.htm
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StinkySusan Tech: thank you elchanan
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: you don't even need the (?s)
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: platform? windows or linuz? returns vary
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: it's a function of the regex engine used not the os.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StinkySusan Tech: windoew
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: oh :)
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StinkySusan Tech: windows
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: i never used buttons tho when i had zmud running... used f1, f2, ...fn
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mhh, this detects each empty line
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: give it a meaningful pattern.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird like Anaristos Tech: if you use the equivalent of ^$ blank lines is what you'll get.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StinkySusan Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: kiss her? I have my standards!
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: mis :)
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mhhh, i have all lines have here carriage returns....
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it plausable?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: anyone else use bast's plugins? Having problem with EQ miniwin showing up now...
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: No answer? I have used the eq miniwin before, but sometimes got errors about eqdb. Anything showing like that? I just reloaded it and it seems OK
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koyani Tech: What is this Sharptracker plugin??
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: which is the good font for mudding? which one do you use?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: I use lucida console
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I use Dina
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: wingdings
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyone else cares to share the font of choice?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I use fixedsys in main window
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: I use Consolas
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it seems there is not one font that most prefer
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lighthart Tech: I like Consolas as well.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i wonder from there mush takes the line height property
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and consolas is pretty nice indeed
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lighthart Tech: Monospace fonts work much better IMO, why I like it
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i'll try it
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you have to use monospace fonts...maps, identify output, score, etc. simply won't be readable otherwise
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: there is a font called Monospace, he was not refering to the font type
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then "fonts" needed to not have an "s", particularly after he just said that he liked a different-named [monospace] font
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lighthart Tech: no no, I meant fonts. And you don't really "have" to use one, it just looks awful if you don't. I use a non-monospace in my Comm log though
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: comm log is different than main output
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no tables put into it
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lighthart Tech: Of course, just making sure Jedhi knows that when surfing fonts to stick to Monospace is all
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but i cannot figure out this line height thing... i cannot adjust it
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, you could also tell your monitor to display upside down :P
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use a padding rather than trying to adjust it
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: found, there is a line spacing option for mush
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and yes, Monospace font is ugly
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: afk
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lighthart Tech: Google "list of monospaced fonts". There is a wiki entry with a nice comparison of them.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: btw inconsolata looks very nice http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Inconsolata
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: has anyone done some testing in lua? is it done at all?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: can one plugin add an alias to another plugin? i have one hack and i do not want to touch the sourcecode each time i update my mush
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: not alias, trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could have the trigger outside the plugin, but calling the plugin's function to "pretend" that it's within the plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i do not follow
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i have a trigger that adds lines which start with "Custom Report" to the communication log... so i do not spam the gt
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, do you use the function that the comm log has which is meant to let you insert stuff into it?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Send_your_own_custom_lines_to_the_log_window
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (same link) http://tinyurl.com/q3asx3u
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: not function, just the trigger in aard_channels_fiendish
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I think this will solve your problem
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: eh, i just create another plugin with the same id?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nono, in any plugin that you want to put comm log stuff, use the CallPlugin's StoreFromOutside
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like in bast's reporting stuff, where you choose the channel, commlog is one of the options...if you have it set to that, then he uses that CallPlugin("b555825a4a5700c35fa80780","storeFromOutside","foobar")
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i see, thanx alot!
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: hi. wanted to ask if there is a way to hotkey something to shift+numpad in the mushclient (aardwolf version)
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ok sorry if i am being dumb but cant figure it out, it seems like i cant create a macro for that key combination
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start here: tinyurl.com/aardclientfaq then click "writing macros" on the left
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that being said, numpad as well as ctrl-numpad can both be mapped using the GUI going to game -> configure -> keypad
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: macros only work for certain keys
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: you would have to use an acclerator for that
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: although there is built-in functionality for cntrl+numpad, if you're up to using that instead of shift
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page I pointed to tells you how to do any keys
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: sure, ctrl is fine, and i am reading the page, ty for the link
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: heh actually that page also solves my F1 issue, nice
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: f1 issue is in the general option
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: yep it is gone now
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: file->global preferences, check f1/f4 are macros
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: oh, I see the info at the bottom of that page
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You tickle Madcatz.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: hmm i dont get this, my accelerators work but not if i bind them to numpad
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: isnt kp0, kp1 etc the lua code for numpad keys?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it depends on what your computer decides to send...
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is numlock turned on?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: tried it with both on and off but line doesnt even compile
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: i also tried capitilizing the KP
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: one of the options in the menu will tell you what the key is when you press it
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: input->key name
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you can check by puressing input, then keyname, a window will poplulate, and you can press the keys to verify the keyname you can use with accelerator.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ah awesome
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: apparently it is Numpad4
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: or simply Left depending on numlock
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: how in mush play sound via alias? not trigger?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I have a string quartet play as I mud
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you want to play a sound whenever you type something?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: so he can stay awake as he's getting to T9 in 5 months?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i hire a 100 person orchestra to play as I mud, changing the score to fit what I am doing
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: queve of commands. end queve with alias that plays a sound, which means end of queve
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: sleepy :P
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: end basically if connect with long speedwalk including autohunt, can know when you arrived. OR when spammed room - can hear an audial clarification when your spam ends
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: why do you need to hear audi when the spam ends?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: and with spam, you mean stacked commands?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't want to hear a car when spam ends.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades grins evilly at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: audio*
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people will just end with something like "ac" or "look", which is an easy visual cue
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: why do you need a visual clue though?
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: shouldn't it be clear? 
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can use PlaySound, or can do something like an "echo end_stack" and trigger on that
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: well yes. though it spams as well, Abe. guess will have to trigh on that ac :P
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne is dyslexic, and was super happy when he saw Trivia Points: 811, but then realized it was Quest Points. :(
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't spam as well, it breaks up the normal visual
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That was after I typed 'ac' of course.
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're fighting a bosstype thing, and cast 10 attacks, it helps to not have to count the rounds...so you "ac" and cast one more attack, then you don't "miss" any rounds of attack and will know where you stand
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that lets you not get too far ahead to keep an eye on your progress
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (or barney rather than boss...anything that's lasting longer than my usual "/nuke" alias of 6 rounds
T3/r7/2015-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazoiah Tech: what is the defaul font of the comm log?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is getting fuzzy with all those flashbacks. like the lost
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i do like the female lead role though :P
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is getting fuzzy with all those flashbacks. like the lost
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i do like the female lead role though :P
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and that was mistell
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: (s)
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is auto quaffer legal or not?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: as long as you're at the keyboard.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: spelled auto queefer
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and if i create and alias "west
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and if i create and alias "west;cast ultrablast" this is legal as well? or is it command stacking?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byzandula Tech: cuff him
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i have not done anthing :P
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byzandula Tech: bend over, this may hurt a little.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i would just assign ultrablast to a button then hit <west> and <ultrablast button>
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: that is command stacking.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: Typing any kill command before actually entering the room is illegal.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: xyndor but if i create a trigger that checks if mobs are in the room and then casts. is it legal?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: check out second to last paragraph of helped stacked commands for previous question :)
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: Scripts cant execute a kill command, so yes, illegal.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byzandula Tech: "command stacking in a single room, although not illegal by itself, is illegal if used in conjunction with a trigger!"
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: I still feel it's weird to have 'spam kill' followed by a movement to be deemed illegal
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: Sounds like you're on the verge of making a bot... so think to yourself if it's really worth it or just make a macro and push the extra button... better than risking being nuked... I think.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: I don't use any triggers or what not, and I do that naturally when killing mobs
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am just thinking about my first question... move to next room and kill all
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: You have to actually see what's in the room before you attack.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you type it, it is ok
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you don't, just use charge
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: and Kirua, what if the next room has aggros?  Suddenly you're botting.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but i do not want to do something that will gain me a second per room and a nuke at the end of the day
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: Ah, my movement rule I'm referring to is two rooms away.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: but I'm always in front of the keyboard, if there is an aggro mob (which I know there isn't), I will and have to react to it manually
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: A common misconception - just because you're at the keyboard doesn't mean you're not botting.  Not saying you are, just saying that doesn't mean you're not ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but what if you forget to pay attention? Or the phone or doorbell rings?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: then my character dies because no spells or skills are cast
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or you win and gain exp
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: autocaster is legal
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just avoid using attack skills / spells other way than manually
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: if you are not afk
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is ongoing discussion about dissolve trigger whether it is (or should be) legal or not , and it is not direct attack skill though
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but just staying in agro room is illigal as well... so autocaster does not play a role anymore
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i voted do not care
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, trigger will cause that player die faster
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: we have too many rules here!
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: we have too many bots here
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol, 1000 pups day/daily
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: according to the new rules, even if the next room is not aggro, spamming the last few spells on a mob and then moving there is illegal
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: too much automation like GMCP
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: afk or not
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just cannot stack move and attack spells, does not matter whether you stack attack after move or move after attack
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well without gmcp everything would be possible... it would just be a question who is better scripter
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: You're saying moving after killing a mob is illegal?  Not sure what rule you're talking about.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: what new rule?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, cannot stack move before you get prompt
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: seems reasonable to me.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i think this is the rule everyone is breaking...
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: was quite useful for me in crynn - attack aggro move, then stack move to get out of aggro
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: help stacked commands, under 'This is not OK'
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so you can stack commands while you do not move?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: no issue there, else we all are botting
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, why not ? it is single room anyway
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless it is aggro room
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: doesn't matter if i breath
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean just don't stack 500 * spell in hope it will last over 2 repops or so
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: afk in an aggro room is illegal, stacking commands is okay
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: not sure if a player would gain anything from waiting for the repops
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: garbage cans
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: key in bee hive in labyrinth, one player was nuked for that
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: illegal to trigger a kill of a repop though
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: off*
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well this would piss off the person who has the same mob as a quest target or something
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so not nice at all
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: is it possible to alias two words to a command?  What I'm trying to do is whenever I "enter tp1", I want to use the #teleport function of the mapper to set my new location
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: yes, you need to use a wildcard
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: are you doing it from mushclient?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: cmud
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ahh then im not sure, sorry
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: have you been into the alias part of the cmud config?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: and set "enter tp1" as the alias
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: Yeah, I tried that, but it doesn't seem to pick up more than 1 word
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: tried quotes, didn't seem to help
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: do you have another alias for enter * ?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Don't think you can
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: nah, i have no enter aliases
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: ill be quiet know :p
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: madcatz knows more than me
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: lol thanks for trying Phear
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: At least not without using an alias on enter, and then within that alias, checking to see if the next word is tp1
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: or you could just do enter_tp1, or whatever
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: hm, actually, so enter_tp1 would 1) enter the portal, and then 2) set location by #teleport
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: that might work actually
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: or simply "entertp1
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: why not just tp1
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: actually...an oninput trigger might be able to use more than 1 word, not sure
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: and would accomplish the same thing as an alias
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: afaik
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: hm interesting, so enter <input>, if <input1>, enter portal1, set location, if <input2>, enter portal2, set location?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ever though of switching to mushclient? would make everything easier
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: i'm just afraid i'd lose all the maps and work i've already done :(
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: is there a way in mushclient to alias a weapon, so when using portal, it seconds the aliased weapon?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: make an alias wield second => which wields a weapon stored in variables
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: okay, is there a link to where to read about this?   I can't see a search on the forums for the mushclient 
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: then set the variable to the weapon
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: k
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: will figure out variables, thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: idk if this is an appropriate place to ask this but how come on aardwolf when i touch the screen it scrolls up and can i turn that off?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: GetVariable("xyz") / SetVariable("xyz", "abc")
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PhearMe Tech: and to send to world use Send "xyz"
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks Phearme
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: idk if this is an appropriate place to ask this but how come on aardwolf when i touch the screen it scrolls up and can i turn that off?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: Shore what client are you using?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: sounds like a phone problem
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: the client the game comes with
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: it doesnt do it on other games
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: which client? mushclient? blowtorch?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: i think its mushclient
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i don't have that problem of touching the screen and scrolling
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: me either, my touchscreen doesn't scroll
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shore goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: anyone know a good free program to change audio in a .mod (video) file? I can adjust the effects in vlc but cannot figure out how to make them permanent in terms of playing it on a different player.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Usually I just google things like that. I can't think of anything off the top of my head, though.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: is it weird that when pandora is playing and i go on aardwolf it only plays radiactive or is that a tech problem?
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: ???
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: I cant escape this now UNLESS YOU SHOW ME HOW!
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's... not Radioactive...
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: looks like your "tech" problem is solved.
T3/r7/2015-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: yea.... i changed to i heart radio
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: anyone know of a cleaner way to write testi(n(g(t(r(i(g(g(e(r)?)?)?)?)?)?)?)?)?   ?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: WHAT DID YOU JUST CALL ME
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If I knew exactly what you were trying to capture, I'd tell you. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But for starters, your end could just be (?:[\)]+)?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i want to be able to type a word totally or partially and capture after a certain threshold has been met but to not deviate from the predetermined pattern
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thus, in the previous example. testi and testingt would captire but testingx wouldn't
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And I'd say do (?:[\(ngtrie\)]+, but it won't necessarily match specifically on "trigger" (e.g., it would match on engine).
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: An, so you're not escaping out the ()s.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You want to actually capture it.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it does what i want it to. i'm hoping for a cleaner way to write it
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So why not do testi(\w+)?, then do if string.match("ngtrigger","%1") (or something similar)?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: string.find is what I'm looking for, not match.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: seeing some strange behavior with mapper portals
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: setting up portals and it seems to still walk to area, then use portal to get to portal location
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: just an fyi, did xset mark in portal room
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where are you standing when you create the portal, and how are you getting to the area?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: standing in the portal location, I wear before setting mapper portal <stuff>
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: separate winkle from the mapper...solve for which one is making the wrong decision by not using winkle to get there
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xset/xrt is winkle and not the mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: cool, I'll runto first then?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, mapper goto roomnum
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: actualy, no, I used portal to get there
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, sorry, not a morning person heh
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, that works
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so it's the winkle extender mapper thingy i guess
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK,so the mapper knows how to get to the room using the portal...now you can concentrate on the xset part
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try re-xsetting the room, then recall and xrt areaname again
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: also need to fix recall, as it tries an alias
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also make sure that you can get from the portal landing spot to your xset room...like for xyl, if you have the first room or rock garden xset, then it wouldn't use the portal
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or autumn, if you have xset in the first part of the area, it wouldn't use the portal
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: can there be more than one xset?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xset means "where I want to go if I try to xrun to the area by areaname"
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so xset should be replaced with the portal location if I did that
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, xset should be wherever you "usually" want to go when you run to the area
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, so I xset to the portal drop, and xrt runs to the area, then portals to the portal location
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: xrt sendhi
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: mt
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, for sendhia (well, for vidblain), there's a special hack in place
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: right
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: oh, so it's running to vidblain and in this case we don't want tha
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, so now that you have a sendhia portal, you can turn off the vidblain hack
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type xset vidblain, then recall and try to xrt sendhia
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: that's the ticket
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: will just need to use the vidblain stuff when at lower levels without portals maybe?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your sendhia portal is a level 1 triv portal, no?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: you are correct, bought it in 2008, forgot sorry
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sort of confused with variables, is there a way to use one in a normal alias like the item was restrung?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wouldn't need a variable for that, since the alias would handle it, but you could
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well meant so creating an alias, use that variable each time instead of remembering the id
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to have the alias's action change @varname into the value, you'd tick the checkbox for expand variables
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: oh, thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: just won't work with mapper portal since I can't find where to edit those
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so, for example, you could have an alias for using portals...and that alias could be "get portalname @ 645173320 
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, heh
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so, for example, you could have an alias for using portals...and that alias could be "get portalname @portalbaID, wear portalname, enter, wear @dualweapID, put portalname @portalbaID"...
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have your mapper portals use the alias rather than having the whole command in the portal definition
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you can change your dual weapon and portal bag ID variables
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ah, so was missing @
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, when using variables in the send box and checking expand variables, you use @varname to call it
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: then would need to either manually change variable or use a script to do the setvariable thing
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tofting Tech: anyone know why i can bluetooth files from my laptop to my phone but not the other way round?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: where might I find the aard_ASCII_map.xml file?  what is it's default folder?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: world/plugins
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks.  (and no ' in its)
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: A person who corrected their own grammar!
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMWatching Abelinc corrects his own grammer all the time
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh wait...
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMWatching Abelinc looks for the twitches
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: A person whom corrected they're own grammer!
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: I tend to do the same.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Abelinc beat me on the grammer, though.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: YOU ARE NOT KELSEY!
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my line 494 in that file is in the middle of a mouseover function...
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NO YOUR NOT KELSEY
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What about my not kelsey?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Abe, where does that code snipt go if like 494 is in the middle of a funchtion?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: "line"
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, should be "elseif (id == "462b665ecb569efbf261422f" and msg==996 and text == "re-register z") then"
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should be the contents of line 494
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have wrapping on messing up the line numbers, maybe?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Any good editor would not change line numbers due to word wrapping.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my line 494 is "      "  !  - Pet/other charmed mob     +  - Door (locked)","
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'll check that
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nope, no wrapping
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that should be line 566
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how old is your aardMUSH?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: other version?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Looks like she's got a huge chunk missing, then.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type checkversion to see the aardmush version
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um, 1783...
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera hides her face in shame.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Last version I know of is 1805.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, to describe where to do the change...find the section "Called when plugin receives telnet data"
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that has the OnPluginBroadcast function
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: okay
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: within that function, the first "main" if is if id==3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want to be within that if block
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are current 2 sub-ifs...if text == reload, and if text == room.info
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what I posted would be a third sub-if
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's after the "end" for the if text == room.info, and before the elseif is==
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err before the elseif id ==
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I think I found it.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: can I reload the file while mush is up?  or do I need to reboot?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can reinstall while MUSH is up.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: reinstall the plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: from file>plugins menu
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh ok, just like any plugin.  cool
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone played with Windows 93?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: windows 93? Is that the one that is going to be released in 3015?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: how do I unlock the sizing of the mushclient windows?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: dat dos prompt
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: awesome, thanks!
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: now to get one that does the same thing when you die.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: assuming you mean the aardmush ones
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: aard layout unlock, Kirua
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Damn lag.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: yup, and thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: sigh... My 'communication log' is missing now... what should I do?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: try reloading the plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: reinstalling, rather
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: is there any way to make a channels colour alternate between two colours everytime someone types?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes. but no we won't help with something like that :P
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually there are public plugins to make your own channel stuff "go rainbow"
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: well where could i find such plugins XD aardwolf website?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crej Tech: anyinfo on where the channel plugins are located
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mayne he wants to change colors only on his end?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As long as you're not using it to type on channels, I'm good. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because the second you start forcing colors on me that I didn't set is the second I start ignoring you.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: no i just want it to be want what pops up on my screen to look more aesthetically pleasing
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Imms are cheaters.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: inconsistent coloring isn't aesthetically pleasing...
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I prefer the beauty of one color, unless it's my scripts generating tracking information.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: well my gossip channel is blue and when alot of chat happens it looks like a big blue blob, so i want it to alternate between blue and dark blue, just to make it easier to look at.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh... dark blue is not easy to look at.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: it is for me
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd prefer lighter variations of blue.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne is actually impartial to this color to be honest.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: I am! As long as it's not right next to this one
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Puppy Love Oladon Tech: Uh... you're impartial to it?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: look could someone just point me in the direction to make the changes please XD i dont need a walkthough just a place to start
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's not the word I'm looking for.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I really like that color, though.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: scarecrow there is not yet such a plugin. You can make yoru own or modufy the comm log plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For your particular needs, Ayas is right, there isn't a plugin like that.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: Well someone could've said that before we got into the colour debate :I
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The way you presented it sounded like you wanted: rainbow colors.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: which we dont like
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but which does exist in public scripts ;-)
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Honestly, you could write a script to do a gossip counter, and when gossipcounter%2 == 0, color it one color, and when gossipcounter%2 == 1, do it another color.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, do you want it just for gossip, or for other channels as well?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: just gossip, ill look up something on scripting, im not tech savvy enough to understand that crap
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: dang it.. i cant figure out which file housed my setting for mushclient (where all my window positions/states are stored)
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: the states folder
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: each plugin holds its own position data
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the entire folder has that info
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you might want to take a read through the download page on aardwolf's site, it gives lots of info for where stuff is stored
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ahhh! thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: I just downloaded 4.96 mushclient for Aardwolf
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: been tinkering with lua and plugin dev too
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: worked like a charm! thanks again!
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: hello
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lo :-)
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: hello world
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: i am having probs with the bast plugins. i believe i correctly added all of them, but when i enable them i cant send commands anymore and my main window freezes
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define "added all of them"...you shouldn't add all of Bast's stuff
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: i also have winklewinkle running. also on installation of bast i got a runtime error
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byzandula Tech: print "hello world"
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: well, i went to the folder where the xml-s are and then file->plugins->add selected and opened all
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: how do i write "not equals to" i tried ('%2' ^= 'red') and ('%2' != 'red') but i get illegal symbol errors
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: if its in lua use "not"
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't do that...only add the particular plugin(s) you're interested in
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: bast's wiki sais to add all since they depend on each other
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, bast's wiki says NOT to add all
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it says to have the folder there in its entirety
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: then i cant read sorry, i check again
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: if not %1 == 'red"
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: it's like particle physics, too much and your brain (or computer) stops
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ah, thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: ~=
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: if %1 ~= "red"
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ok i removed all i think, which are the ones that i should add?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ones you want
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: what do you want them to do?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: browse the plugins pages on his wiki
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ok which are the ones that people typically find the most useful?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the people
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: differs for everyone
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't just add stuff to add stuff
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: tbh, nothing in particular it was just suggested to me that i check these out
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so check them out on the web page...
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: all righty
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he describes them all
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: any of these conflicts with the winklewinkle triple pack?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the two categories that you want to look at in his wiki are "modified plugins from other people" and "bast's plugins"...the "broadcast_xxx" plugins you wouldn't ever need to add, because those are the dependency ones which get auto-added when you add the "miniwin" ones
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ok i will check out what is there, thanks for the advice
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the features in bast_hunt overlap winkle's
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always go by features...one of the main features of winkle is a window with your campaign targets...you wouldn't then need bast's window of campaign targets...
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: anybody happens to know which plugin is doing these {affon}"numbers" messages and the like every time i get an affect?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Which client?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: not a plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: i think they started happening after i installed bast's plugins, but i removed all of them and the messages stayed.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, spellup plugins will turn on those tags, but the plugins that use them also hide them so that they don't bug you...but when the plugin is disabled/removed, the plugin can no longer gag/hide them, so they suddenly appear
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so a plugin is the root cause of you getting them, but the game server is what sends them
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and the game server is where you'd turn them off, other than installing/enabling another spellup plugin)
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when I type 'mstat' i get some info on Bast's miniwin_stats plugin instead of the mob-stat info I'm looking for.  I tried looking for the command in the miniwin_stats file but that didn't help.  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mstat isn't available for non-imms.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unless you're on builder's port, then you should just use a vanilla copy of MUSH. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: even for the mobs we have in our clanhall?  okay.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, maybe not for clan hall.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just know I can't even mstat my manor mobs. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I was trying to get info on one of our shopkeepers.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: try ;mstat?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nope, same thing.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: try an alias, then? alias ms mstat
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but i did get what I needed from mlist, so maybe I can ignore it for now.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that worked, got "Stat whom?" as a result.  cool.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sucess!  thanks!
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: i have tags inv off and i still get all kind of item tag messages, for example when looting, how do i get rid of these?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: invmon
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: using mush, how do i define a list of predetermined strings and check other strings to see if they match the list. so if the list was:"red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple", red and green would return true but cyan and flamingo would return false
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: perhaps with a lua table in a plugin?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so, table's the only way? k, thanks. i'll go look some more stuff up
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: or youcould set up an external database
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that doesn't sound easier
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: joking
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: quite easy and possible, but still joking
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: are you already using scripting or a plugin Gorsk?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper...
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: but you want to do this in a simple alias or something?
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: it wouldnt take long to make a script and turn it into a plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ya, i'm trying some simple projects to get used to syntax
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: been meaning to get arrays figured out for a while now, but never did. seems like the perfect time
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm... I previously mentioned PhraseExpress as an awesome tool. Today, I realized just how much memorization it would have saved me for a couple of fill-in-the-blank tests on my laptop, if I had it running at the time. Could have even delayed entering the answers as if I were actually typing. Curses!
T3/r7/2015-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne really does love PhraseExpress, though.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: question: anyone know of any mud clients that can copy/paste with color codes embedded?  (via a plugin if necessary - and can be aard or ansi codes)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard MUSHclient does
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: didn't know that - plugin?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: select text then ctrl-d
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: HTML certainly does work I know
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: awesome - didn't know about that one :)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that works in main mush window, in commlog right click and copy selected
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ColorCopy
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: hi
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: anyway to store variables within variables? :P
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: hello
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: serialize maybe
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: like an aray?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: array*
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: what scripting engine?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: muchclient. for example i have variable lev180p that stores primary weap for lv180 id.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: idk im not much into scripting :P
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: use a lua table.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: i think he does it from client side
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Visionaire goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vrykus agrees
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: weapons = { "level80" = {weapon1, weapon2,...,weaponN}}
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: so what exactly you wanna do :P you have variable lev180p which stores lvl180 weapon id...
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: and i want to have variable xxx that may be addressed to store variable lev180p
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: so as i level up, new info is send into this meta variable
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: have you looked at bast eqsets or disarm plugins
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: ehm. basically the question is may i store variable within another variable.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: from lua yes
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: can you link an example? it should be in attached script or plugin?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: you can use set and get variable
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: basically all i want is: have 2 variables with changing content that will update as i level up, so i can use a hotkey to use best magical or physical weapons, based on var info
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: you wanna do it from a plugin/script or client?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: well it will be more handy to do it from client. since ive allready have set everything up for gear. but that dbl variable confused me a bit
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: why to use a double variable then and not an alias + variables?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: hmm. on the other hand, talking about it, i may have found a way around. clientside. that var will store alias. yes! 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: more complicated than it is worth. Lua tables is the answer.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: but that works allready! thanks )
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Visionaire goes, "Whee!"
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: lua tables can contain anything including lua tables. you can put aliases, commands, functions, anything object in the language can land in a table.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: i like that Anaristos is not reading what is the exact question, he is in love with lua tables *lol
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: i also like a lot lua tables but you need to have a plugin in order to use the properly :P 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gildos Tech: is there a plugin for invenory? aardwolf_inventory_v3 doesn't work for me
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Anyone have any reccomendations for a sub 500$ laptop that is quality that will do the job for primary use of school (mud as well)?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: I could work a above that, but set my price there, just depends.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: any laptop at that price would be fine for that purpose
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: I've looked at consumer lists.  Just random ones like chromebook i'm not so certain of the OS
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: do you need any Windows-specific software?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Not at all.  As long as I can use microsoft office.  A not necessary requirement would be compatibility with cmud.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: even if it's unix-based you can always use wine.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: do you really need Microsoft? Or just compatibility with MS Office files?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: do you really need Microsoft Office? Or just compatibility with MS Office files?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: yeah, Open Office is nice and free.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: nod vost, that was the question i was about to ask
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Never used anything but.  It translates to word fine?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: As well as the other programs*
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i use libreoffice and google apps
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I used to use MS Office, then Open Office, now Libre Office
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mostly google apps
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: same game, different name :)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: well, there are differences, which is why I changed
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: but they are similar
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: oo development was slow, so they forked it and created libreoffice
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost rapidly nods twice at Jedhi, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: this is how libre looks on my ubuntu: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B45AJxhtxDHmd1IyNnpCZlpTOVU/view?usp=sharing
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I though that it was Oracle that wanted to abandon OO
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is not abandoned
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: though in my mind, the future belongs to google apps
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you mean Oracle still develop OO and Apache found develop Libre ?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/who-are-we/
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Love Libre's direct export to pdf so office drones can easily read your stuff, rather than risk saving as MS formats which don't always work.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ms office cannot export to pdf?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: isn't it just save as now?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: No I mean, if you use libre, you can export to pdf ... makes it easier
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: at one point if you saved as a microsoft office format, they did not always turn out well
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what format is ms office?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: doc?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: docx
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: documents are .doc spreadsheets .xls ...
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: depends, office is word, excel, powerpoint, etc
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but it cannot export to pdf?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: doc is older, docx newer
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 2010 or 2013 can export to PDF
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ok
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok, i have not used windows for a very long time
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OO is nice, but their UNO interface is really terrible
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: it used to require plugin (old version), now it is just save as
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i cannot install shared printer in win8... lol. you need to be a rocket scientist or something to do that
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: WINDOWS SUCKS
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I'm so freaking sick of Win 8 and all the active directory drama 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: f windows, the only thing good about it is all the money I've made off it all these years
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: win 8 is just RC, just like Vista was RC for 7
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i saw it this week for the first time... go-worker asked help to instll the printer. and i could not do it
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: dell open print driver makes things easier nowadays, if the printer is PCL6
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: the dell driver supports it
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: decent for networked printers also
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in our office one printer is shared from some windows machine and it needs a user and password... win8 does not have that option or something
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in mu ubuntu it is just few clicks and it works
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: ah, shared printer blows
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I run ubuntu on this gamer laptop, but at work I play around with a centos virtual machine...cent is probably the best
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and win8 didn't have the driver for the printer as well
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i use ubuntu because it has almost all software prepackaged
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: mircosoft is more of a marketing company
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: CentOS is just recompiled RH
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: try to make everyone recert everything as often as possible, hide the control panel and rename crap on there to piss people off
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well there are almost no rpm-s out there... so RH is NO GO!
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: my greatest tech infatuation lately is with Xen 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: it runs servers better than they run themselves
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am just a desktop user
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: every layer adds some overhead
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: only good thing with VMs is that you can just easily transfer it to other phys machine, no more problems with hardware upgrades
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: isn't there a page on AardFaqs about keys, like how to get them?  I can't find it.  (specificaly looking for Grax's keys)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: assassin, elf, dwarf.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reading through history, it's bizarre to see someone saying there are no RPMs for anything. I can't remember the last time I couldn't find a package available for Fedora
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: woohoo - MCCP the Hard Way.  Just finished implementing DEFLATE in JS.  (Couldn't find a good existing lib which didn't depend on node.js or which worked well with unbounded length streams.  Probably *something* is out there... but anyway, it's done.)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mccp in browser?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: yup
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: explains no node reliance
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: yes - would have been a piece of cake if I could have used node
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cool
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: I think I've seen at least one other JS-based client which supposedly does MCCP, but I forget whether it was licensing or what, or maybe laziness/curiosity, which made me do my own.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I see https://github.com/beatgammit/deflate-js
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also https://github.com/nodeca/pako
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and https://github.com/ukyo/zlib-asm/blob/master/zlib.js via emscripten
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: the problem w/ at least some of these is that they depend on having a complete zlib stream for input
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: I can say that definitively for pako - pako looked the most promising and is basically a zlib for JS, lots of options, etc. - but I found basically that one of the flush options was bugged and they weren't interested in fixing it.  (the flush option that I needed.)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: heh ah
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: for most people though, that's not a problem.  Most people aren't decompressing a neverending zlib stream though.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: someone here using mushclient on windows? please type \\\Hyperlink ("http://www.a.com", "http://www.a.com", "http://www.a.com", "blue", "black", true) and tell me if the output is underlined or not
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.a.com
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Turie that doesn't help me. I need to know if the underlining is broken everywhere or just for me
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there is no underlining
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not see underlining
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok thank you both
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The only time I see underining is when I hover over it on the Communication Log.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, but that doesn't use the hyperlink function. I specifically draw that line
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ok sorry very dumb/basic question, but mushclient help doesnt wanna launch and i have no clue about the syntaxes it uses: How do i put a line in a trigger that sets a variable to "%1"? and then how do i later refer to that variable? i thought it was ariable-name but doesnt work
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: meh i mean "at"variable-name
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support2.microsoft.com/?kbid=917607
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: help doesn't want to launch because you don't have the microsoft help viewer installed
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: will get the helps to work
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: that is possible
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aside from that, the entire help system is online at the mushclient.com site :-)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Microsoft stopped shipping the traditional helpfile viewer with Windows starting with Vista
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Variables
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: "at"Variable is used when you have variables stored. You have to check expand variables within the checkboxes on the right of the page. Also you must set the variables before you can access them.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a great place to get started with learning about using the aardMUSH package is tinyurl.com/aardclientfaq...the entire wiki site at that URL is great :)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If you want to set a variable, you can either select send to variable, or you can send to script and use the SetVariable() function
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: depending on whether or not you also want the trigger to do other stuff
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: if it's a simple trigger/alias you can do "k *" in the capture box and then access whatever * is using %1.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ok so you cant just go "at"variable = value?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: yes but i want my trigger to set a variable value for later use so %1 is not enough unfortunately
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what scripting lang?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: whatever aardwolf client is set to, i did not touch it
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I doubt that would work, Artagas
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally you'd want to use an alias to set the variable rather than a trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when using varname = value, that's setting a "lua variable" rather than a MUSHclient variable...different scopes/uses
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ok i want to do this exactly on a single command: hold a portal, "store" what my offhand weapon was, enter portal, equip offhand weapon again.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: lua -> SetVariable("Varname", value) vbscript -> world.setVariable "varname", value
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should store your offhand weapon separately from that
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. when you switch your normal offhand, set the offhand variable
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: right i want a trigger that remembers my "last" offhand weapon everytime i remove it. 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you could do an alias "setdual *", with the action being SetVariable("offhand_weap","%1"), send to script
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you want to set it
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: really
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: change send to to script, then do exactly what FrostBite said
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: also will need to use Send() or Execute() for the commands you're sending to the mud
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: okiez, thanks guys
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: But like Biker says, I'm not sure how you plan on MUSH knowing what your weapon was if you're doing that in an alias.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want it to "put the last thing it saw", because that could be something which you were forced to put on, or put on for a goal, etc...
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can be done with invmon, just not recommended
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ye you are right
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I think those are probably more rare cases then him levelling up and switching desired offhand weapon, though
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: it might be better if i just keep manually setting the desired offhand anyways i dont change it so often
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "more tips" link off of the mapper's page on the aard MUSHclient package's wiki we were talking about earlier gives some good ideas for this
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: but thanks for the info on setting the variables it might come handy for me later
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: and the windows help reader thing :)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you can have a "doportal" alias which calls removedual_alias, get portalname  338873481 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you can have a "doportal" alias which calls removedual_alias, get portalname portalba g, wear portalname, enter, weardual_alias, put portalname  338873481 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: changing that number to  338873481 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: changing that number to portalba g ;-)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, can ya guess one of my aliases? :P
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: if i try very very hard :p
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my portal alias takes 2 arguments, the first being the portal and the second being the bag it's in
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for flexibility reasons, I don't use itemIDs for portalnames, and there is enough overlap in keywords that I have a main portal bag for most portals, and the "conflicting" ones go into a general bag, both called with variables
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: yep sounds good
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: (winkle s&d) what argument do i give the "qw" command if i want it to go for the first target on my cp list? (other than typing the name)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: xcp 1?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: go
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not an argument to qw, as qw is just a "where"
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ye but you can like "qw Biker" if you are hunting for biker, it just doesnt take numbers as argument like "xcp" but thanks you guys answered my question
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you can "go 1" to go to the first room, "go 2" to go to the second, etc if that's what you mean
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "ww help" will probably help get you started
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: no, Raded i meant the first target on the campaign list, but idd xcp seems to be the solution
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He wasn't talking about going to rooms. He was talking about using the 'hunt trick' for cp mobs, which you can do with 'ht <mob>'
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: I made and alias: "mydoor *" with a send of "mapper cexit open %1;%1" and it prints "mapper cexit open gate;n" but the client says "Sorry Vrykus, you can't do that."
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: but if i type it manually it works
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: execute
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ;
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: need an extra 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ah damn this: you need ;
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: well it ate one of my semicolos
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As Artagas says, you need ;;
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you need your client to parse mapper cexit
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: i have 2
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: so execute the command not send
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: (Artagas sucks at typing multiple semicolons) ;;
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you doing Send, or Execute?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: great, i will try, thanks!!!
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: was doing send
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'll try, and you'll succeed. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, "send to world" means send it to aardwolf
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and aardwolf doesn't care about mapper commands, since they're a plugin in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: execute means "pretend that I typed this on the command line", so it will parse aliases, etc.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: i see
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I use PhraseExpress for that, though. I type 'mce' and it expands it out to mapper cexit open east;;east for me.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: script is the other of "the big 3", and that means to run it through the Lua interpreter
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: excellent, thank you all so much!
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so in order to send something to Aard if it were send to script, you'd need to use Send ("foo")
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: im so used to CMUD.. i was great at that.. learning this now haha
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, not just Lua intrepreter, but whatever script you have as default (which is most likely Lua).
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh, I'm a CMUD veteran. Had so many scripts there... but mostly converted all to MUSH now.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: distinction without a real difference...anyone who has set it to anything other than Lua will have a whole lot of broken stuff :P
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i can't pull myself away...
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: if i was going to switch, personally, I would run both clients simultaneously, one behind the other, and rebuild my scripts into mush directly.  But that's me.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: sorry i didnt catch all that, i forgoti  was also on quest and in underdark (norecall) haha
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I wonder if there have been any aard scripts put into the cmud respository since arcidayne switched to MUSH
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, no, I wonder, Biker... because the plugins define the language, so I wonder if you could set MUSH to use Perl or whatever, but the plugins would still work as it defines the language used...
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins would work, but anything which you get from asking people here will not, nor will things like the aliases which come pre-packaged with the client
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: im not sure if there are any scripts for CMUD for aard.... never played this with it
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There are some in the library, a handful.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arcidayne had a couple in there a few years ago
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I put a couple up there.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I tend to write scripts that I'm almost certain no one else would really want.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: i could work some magic with that client... miss it sometimes
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh...
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it's funny that there's more zmud users online than cmud users still
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You haven't worked magic with that client until you've had your current weather information displaying in a small child window along with a icon depicting the weather conditions. :D
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: my first was zmud.. then i bought Cmud and didnt look back
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is because they like their setup in zMUD.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or an updating calendar in your status window that would display the current day in a colored font and update at midnight.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: haha Arcidayne.. no.. i gues not
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, I worked magic with it, and even then, I only scratched the surface.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I wrote Deal or No Deal on CMUD. I still need to finish converting to MUSH.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have not played that in some time.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No one has, Turie. I haven't run it in a while. Maybe a year now?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ahh, im not that ... uhh dedicated to writing code/scripts for a mud client :)
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish once wrote a Tetris plugin for MUSH. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: first I wrote tetris as a mobprog
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: making the plugin for MUSHclient actually came way later
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, a collection of progs
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: anyone know if bast is still active?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it worked ok, but could never get very hard because the MUD doesn't let you put in delays shorter than like 1 second
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: been a couple months
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast is busy with work right now I think.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of people here are familiar with his stuff though
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: i use a few of his plugins and some dont quite work as they should.. like the miniwin EQ ... i have to reinstall it everytime i start client to get it to show :\
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Personally, I just use the eqsets/db and spellup.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: spellup crashed hard on me 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: basts anyhow
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've never had a problem with it
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Same.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/miniwin_eq
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: same
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to show the window: mneq eq front then mneq eq show
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: hmm not sure then... 
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ya i tried that Biker
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think the tetris progs probably still exist on the test port
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: it doesnt work for me... and one time it shows in the miniwin tab window as EQ ,but if i clicked on it it never showed
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he also suggests installing tabbar if you use any of his miniwin stuff
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I probably should've finished my goal from way back.  Had a 3-card monte game, a simple hi/lo poker/bluffing game, and some other bar game I don't remember.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at one point I was going to implement the monopoly board game. I got as far as laying out the board in ascii art
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: wow!
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but then I figured nobody would actually want to play
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: i would :D
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because nobody likes monopoly
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: pfft i do
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Two That Dangles Tech: Hes right thou, everyone would want to play but no one would ever finish, boring would overtake everyone
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: haha
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think the next best thing might be a game of checkers or chess or something, but I doubt Lasher would appreciate me putting a strong AI in
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I made a connect 4 AI once :P
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Two That Dangles Tech: A really old MUD I played, PANIC mud a long time ago had all those games, connect 4, chess, checkers, even battleship, fun to kill time
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, could put that as a goal for the chessboard area
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm sure I recall there being some sort of "Your script has taken more than a second to run" killer
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: anything over 250ms throws up flags, IIRC :P
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do we know if the server is multithreaded?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is not
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as of a few years ago, there were no plans to make it multithreaded
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh. it'd be kind of funny to throw in the library I added to MUSHclient to spawn native threads in lua
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least then you could crush the machine with chess AI without actually making it halt
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I mean, even without multi-threading, you can still divide computing time, right?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ehhh...I really hate coroutines
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the cooperation aspect in cooperative multitasking is a giant pain
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Madcatz took one OS class in college, and that was 10 years ago.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just so much cleaner and nicer to say "Hey OS, you have like a billion man-hours of really expert experts who know how to do scheduling. You do it for me please."
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tmesis Tech: Hi, is there any way to change the blue and dark blue colors to something different (and readable) across the entire client?
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: help colorset
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tmesis Tech: Could you be more specific? I've searched through all the help files, but cannot find a command to replace that color universally.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: colorset only affects channel colors and some extras. Doesn't change it when people use it themselves on channels.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: if you use MUSH you can change the actual colors used I think
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Tmesis: If you go to Game -> Configure -> Ansi Colors, you can change them to suit your needs.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tmesis Tech: Arcidayne, thanks, that's what I was missing. I was looking at the color options in the Edit menu.
T3/r7/2015-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: anyone know why this doesn't work?: string.gsub("ans", "^\ba(n(s(w(e(r)?)?)?)?)?\b$", "answer")
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: Im having problems with my home internet connecting, both my phone and PC using muchclient. Anyone got any ideas how to fix this?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: noone? T.T
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: problems like?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: it just wont connect at all, im trying something right now
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: which didnt work.. when i boot Mushclient all the windows pop up amd the main window (whatever you call it) says welcome to Mushclient 4.84, some stuff about the plugins, then an integrity check (which it passes) and thats it
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: i press enter to try and connect and it say "The connection to Aardwolf is currently being established."
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BluMalice Tech: Press Alt+1, change your TCP/IP Address from aardmud.org to aardwolf.org. I had the same issue earlier, and oddly that fixed it for me.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: alt1 didnt do anything for me? ill look around
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BluMalice Tech: Click on Game > Configure > MUD Name / IP Address...
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: i cant? its shaded out??
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BluMalice Tech: Close the connection by pressing CTRL+Shift+K, then it should be selectable.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: I just want to say.. I love you guys
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BluMalice enthusiastically high-fives ScareCrowe!
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: any way to keep that from never EVER happening again?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BluMalice Tech: No idea, sorry. Just happened out of the blue today.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: Ah well, at least i know the fix now.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ScareCrowe Tech: Again, tremendous thank you
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Are there any algorhytms in Aard? A web of complex commands?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: all of aard are algorithms
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: No I mean as a custom command
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Made by the player himself
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: In certain situations
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lizza Tech: Do you mean triggers and aliases. Aardwolf has those. Have a read of Help Alias.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: No a different kind of alias...A alias a rather complex on that has a similar function to a Algorhytm...
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what do you want it to do?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Example : I set a decision to hunt a werewolf... If he is in the area the consequence leads to me ultimately tracking him down
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: It is just a crazy idea
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: yes you can use scripting in aliasses and triggers
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: but only clientside
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if you add search and destroy to mushclient you get that by typing "ah werewolf"
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: If he is not searchable...I will automatically go in a different direction or area and search for him
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: mushclient can provide all that for you
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: well, if you write the scripts that is
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Awesome
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Will be interesting to hunt in that way
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I was doing an algorhytm this morning and came up with that idea/plan.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: then write it
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: if i wanted to call an alias from a script, i'd have to use execute, right?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: for a local alias, yep
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: cause i'm trying to pass a value back and i'm having some issues
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: output_index = legal_channels[Execute('chan_rep_auth '..output_channel)]
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: but output index keeps coming up as nil
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is Execute() supposed to return? never used it that way
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's supposed to run the chan_re_auth alias that recieves the output_channel and makes sure that it's really a channel
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that part works
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: then, i want it to return the channel value. either as a string or a number
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i tried return value and return (value) but that doesn't work
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Execute executes a command...
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: when i check mushclient help it says Execute() returns either eOK, eWorldClosed, eCommandsNestedTooDeeply
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: yes and the command is supposed to return a number
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That's because Execute only returns a code that tells you whether it actually sent the commend or not
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ah, how would i fix that?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: eWONTFIX
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you wont get that directly from Execute(), you will need to set a trigger to see if it did what you want??
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't execute your desired function.  Call it, like you would call any function.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I.e., have a isValidChannel method that you call.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: tech how do i call an alias from a script without an execute?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what is wrong with Execute()
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You don't.  I'm not sure why you're trying to when you can just call a function.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: there's nothing wrong with calling an alias from Execute. you just can't expect it to return a value
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Execute("mapper goto 666")
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav nods at Lackluster Lachdanan.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Execute("look")
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: both will work
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: but i don't get data back from that
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: nod, you will not get
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you will need a trigger to get the output from the Execute()
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: as there is nothing to get back exept from the code
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: na, i can call my send functions directly from the other one. it has the data already. was just hoping to return control to original function. makes everything feel cleaner
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i think you do not get what Execute is... it is like Send but it only checks corresponding mush aliases before sending it
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thundera Tech: Hi there.  I cannot seem to log in via MushClient. I am getting the following error message. Can anyone help, please? "Unable to resolve host name for "aardmud.org", code = 11004 (Valid name, no data record of requested type)"
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: yeah, me too. just use the IP address
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: 66.228.127.34
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thundera Tech: Thank you, what is the command to type along with that address?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: how do you normally connect?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thundera Tech: I just click the connect button from the dropdown box at the top.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: is this in mushclient? alt-enter, and paste that number where aardmud.org is. remember to put it back later, once it's fixed.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: btw i telnet to 23 with mush
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: port 23
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thundera Tech: Thank you, seems to have worked.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thundera Tech: Woohoo!
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: hi, i am getting  code = 11002 (Non-authoritative host not found) when i try to connect. (i am connected via mudconnecter atm). is this likely to be an issue with my isp or something i can help?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ok quick googling shows that it is a dns server thing. sadface.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: hmm apparently rooter reboot fixed the whole connection issue. wish i had enough knowledge about networking to know why :)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: lore key
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ooops!
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: curious how to handle a cexit for locked door in zangar's where you have to kill grots and grods for the key and the keys are flagged nosave
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: you dont cexit that.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: just manually do it, unless you are going to be sure you always grab keys when you log on.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: mmmk was just wondering if there was a simple way to handle that  thanks!
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: (which some do)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: well, if it were legal you could have it run to the mob, kill it, loot the key, go to the door, and open it. but it isnt legal. so dont do it.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: even if it was legal, would it work? not sure if it is a 100% drop
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: it isnt 100%
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: ^
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: its a moot point as its illegal, and nobody wants to see your name on a nuke note ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: fine wasnt encouraging it just pointing out that you would need an actual script that keeps hunting mobs until you get the key...which might get the entire building you live in nuked.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: nods, would be a series of triggers that would execute until the key was looted. not hard to do, but definitely not allowed :P
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: so lemme get something straight it is not legal to kill a mob for key for a cexit something like mapper cexit n;n;k dragon;s;s;open s;s    ???
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: nope. they would trigger more than open doors in the end :p
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: correct, very illegal to automate anything that benefits your char in terms of mobkilling.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: but, im at the keyboard..... right?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: actually i checked help botting now. this is unclear. i mean if there is a single(!!) kill command in an alias that you manually execute, not sure if that is illegal or not
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: im not sure i follow why this is since im at the keyboard and i read something somewhere about this
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: that doesnt matter once you automate killing. its fine to make that a macro (i would imagine) and execute it. but to have it set upon triggers, like for a qmob, would be illegal.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: if the kill is triggered, then that is deffo wrong
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: ^
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: well put.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: seriously i'd just save myself the headache and hold on to that key :)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: so by using winklewinkle ... it is "triggered" when running to a room?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: if it was a single mob than you could argue winklewinkle is just a form of using an alias. but you would have to kill mutliple mobs until something happens. that you certainly can not do.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: even if it was a single mob, i would ask an admin before putting it in my s&d settings
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: just to save my neighbours from the sad afteraffects of a nuke. radiation sucks.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you should probably also read help stacked commands since an alias is basically a stacked command
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: * Kill monster, automatically find next monster on death & attack.   There is *no* legal scenario in which you have a trigger that kills   a mob, no exceptions.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: from 'help botting'
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ok so uhhhh  i made a cexit in bazaar to kill the boss for key to metal door yesterday, come back, open ad go south... that is ok?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: "Under no circumstance can you stack a kill command after a movement command." from help stacked
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ok so long as it isnt stacked.. i think i understand
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ah ye thanks. that help file is much more clear on this than botting. i should read it
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: no vry, you can make an alias to run to the mob, and a trigger to run to the door when the key is looted, unlock it, open it, and go through. but the killing cant be in the triiger.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroke My Redwood Tech: (or alias)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ugh... this is so bleh!
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: not that bleh. think about how much tyme sd saves already
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: not that it is a big deal, i can manually kill things, but i have done this for a couple areas so far and now have to go remove
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: is it ok to ask non-mud related tech questions on tech?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: sure i dont see why not?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: but then again, i didnt know that my cexits were bad either lol
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ok so i am not a great coder by any means, but was coding down something for my work and the following came up: i want to run a multiple loop (cycle) where both the number of variables, and the bounds of the variables are given as input by the user
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: is there some nice standard way of doing this (python/SAGE)? 
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: what i ended up doing is run a routine first that puts in an array all of the "legal" loop-variables, and then another which goes through the array, it works but feels noob-ish
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: to find a mob, kill it, get the key, and then go back to the door and open it is as clear of a bot as it can be. you cannot be more bottish
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: oh, im not a python coder.... and never heard of "SAGE"... Java/VB im good at.... C/C++/C# ok at
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: if you see how you'd do this in C elegantly that is cool
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: SAGE is just a fancy math-pack for python basically
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: i see
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: so the loops are nested?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ye
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ok if it is easier like this: print out the integer points inside an n-dimensional hypercube where both "n" and the size of the cube are given by the user
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: if you knew that "n" was say 3, you would just nest 3 loops inside each other and ggwp
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: yes it sounds kinda similar to something i worte a couple years ago in VB
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: prob is you dont know
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: oh so the number of nested loops are determined by the user?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: ye that is the problem :)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: yick!
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: i have a solution as i sad but it is a bit...meh.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: sounds like you are asking to generate loops at runtime... which can be messy in my opinion
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: i turn it into one loop which is governed by an array of length given by the user. and then run a separate script that lexicographically lists the legal inputs for the loop
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: it is a mess. it does run correctly though. was wondering how a "real" programmer would do it :)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: which i am not. i am just a math guy with a keyboard rly.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: anyone else listening, feel free to jump in, i am not pro at coding... haha and technically i am a programmer by trade(Java), but trying to think of how to do this ... elegantly is confusing hmmmm
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: luckily time wise the whole thing is less than 5% of total runnning time for my code so i am not pressed to optimalize it
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: unluckily however i will have to make it public, so i am a bit concnerned by leaving in big batches of mess in it :p
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: like a vb prog i wrote years ago for fun was getting a number from user at runtime and generating an array size based on the number given, but doing that with n loops is hmmmm unless they are the same loop of course
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so, you have a set of something like 10,5,6,7 and you want to build a 4D table, 10,5,6,7 and each side?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ive asked questions about wrok based code on forums befire, jsut have to ... "reword" and hide some implementation
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: Swalec: yes, but the number "4" is given as a parameter for running the script and not a fixed constant
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so the number of variables is variable, as are the actual values
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: correct.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: which language?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: python
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: plz forgive my typos
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: forgiven :p
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so, this is a cartesian product -- the itertools module has a function for doing this
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: what i do now is a lexicographic walk basically (start at the "smallest" input keep increasing last coordinate until you may, then set it back to minimum value + increase next coordinate-rince, repeat)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: "itertools"? hmm, thanks, googling it up
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no worries -- google answers all questions
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: glas someone could help.. like i said im no pro.. still learning a lot as I go (work) haha
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: hehe, i couldnt google this up efficiently somehow, but i appreciate your help :)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: in lua, you'd have to write it yourself -- you have to recurse down the dimensions to get the nested loop with a single written loop
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: glad*
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: i didnt even know "itertools" is a thing, but i see the help file now, it has many things in it that will come handy to me
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, you need the magic phrase "cartesian product" -- after that it's easy, without that, it's a nightmare
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: it is funny i didnt think of googling for that
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: took me a while first time I had that problem
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: uh it can do stuff like get permutations too. sexy
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: higher order functions are the biz--python could do with more to be honest
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: well ye. my main reason for using python is SAGE tbh. plus the fact that i dont code that often and it is a very easy language for amateurs.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Artagas Tech: somehow 90% of the time i dont need more than what you learn in the first 3 classes in programming at college + good ideas. then 10% of the time stuff comes up that makes me wish i attended the rest of the classes :p
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that's always the way -- it just depends what kind of programs you write
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: being a good programmer though is, at least in part, knowing when to google -- most algorithms have been done before
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: true
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: anyone use potion quaffer plugin?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it legal?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: they're out there publicly, so id assume so
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: sorry work is asking me to do some static data stuff now lol
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: i'll ask later
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: from help botting: Heal when HP drops to given percent/value and let aggressive mobs attack.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: quaffer doesnt auto-heal
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so it's legal unless you're using it to keep yourself alive in a room with aggros
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it refering to being idle in the room with agros or just ogros
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: look it up i donth ave time to explain right now... sorry... ill get back to the question later for those who know it
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: good to know Vrykus. Let us know when/if you have more time for us!
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ok sorry, done with work, back to my question about potion quaffer (Bash plugin)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: anyone use potion quaffer plugin?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: having issues getting it to work (setting up?)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if your potionbag is set, try typing just "pots"
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ok abe, it detects my 50 critical care
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: I read the help on the setup and tried hp potion first i set bag to Vladia's and potion to care  (critical care)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: put potions in vladias bag and typed hp but it says no pots left
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: OH!!!!
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not what you're asking but I'd highly recommend upgrading that bag. a lot of clan halls sell bags that are pretty cheap and they're the best you can get without spending QP
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's 2 variables for the items...a keyword and a full name
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: i see.. pots updates quantity.. thanks!!!!!
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and you're over level 60, so pots that cast heal might be a good investment
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: any suggestions?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: i also have a well use backpack 
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: potsearch heal - there's tons and they're all exactly the same
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: for bags, chaos has bags, bard, watchmen, touchstone
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: ya i jsut hit 60 a bit ago and had 50 crit care i am going to buy jade pots
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I carry two Aard bags and five clan bags
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrykus Tech: thanks! :)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allara Tech: Hello everyone. I just wanted to say that the visually-impaired accessible maps are great!
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: You new to PC and Aard?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: good to hear
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allara Tech: I'm new to Aard.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Welcome :)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allara Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: has any of you come up with some good naming convention for lua in mush?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: anyone have a router that caused so much lag that got better when rebooted?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: I'd check traceroute first.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: freezing lag seems to be a common problem yesterday and today
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yes, some routers can bog down over time, rebooting bringing them back to life
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: well my router was only running for 13 days... didn't think it needed to be rebooted but it was also slowing down internal net traffic
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: I did check to make sure my router had the latest firmware before the reboot. but the reboot seem to have fixed it
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: ok I need some help, I'm having trouble with one of abelinc's scripts for Mushclient, the autoquaffer.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: I've been trying to figure this out for about 3 days now but I just can't do it
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: hmm. is abelinc's quaffer better than bart's?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: dont talk about abelinc's quaffer please
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not the same thing
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's is what I'm guessing you mean by the other one
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: bast's yeah, sorry :)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: what's your problem?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's is to keep track of potions, and to quaff them on command, Abe's/mine is a quaff-when-HP low plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: ty
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thought you had it working for heal, mana and refresh a while ago, lua?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: i did but
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: if i just type percent by itself i get an error
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: where percent is a glbal variable
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: here : http://pastebin.com/2aBpm6db
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: You mean type "autoquaff percent"?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: the bit that catches the error is at the bottom
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: wait...you're trying to edit it, or use it as-is?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: edit it
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: after i can use it as it is with no errors
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: wildcards[2] is the second wildcard
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: which is nil
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: that i put up is unchanged from abelincs dl
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: so you're getting errors after or before you try to edit it?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: before
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: and after
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: i have tried everything i can think of including an or if where wildcards [2] is nil, an else within the if statement and anything else
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: wildcards [2] that is
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: make sure there is no space
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: and it might be wildcards.2
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I'd change the "false" in if wildcards [2] == false to "nil"
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: a few lines before that
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: I think i tried that madcatz but I will give it a shot
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I don't think false is equal to nil in lua
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: but i don't recall for sure
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: actually, I can test
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: you're right, nil is nothing, false is boolean
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: nods, they're not equal
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: well i changed the false to nil, saved, reloaded, same erroe
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: error*
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: on the same line?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what is the error?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: yep
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: its in the pastebin
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: oh, it's not ending then
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm surprised I didn't do the same thing for wildcards [2] that I did for wildcards [1]...== ""
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: stick a return in that if block
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: after ColourNote ("yellow", "", "You need to provide a value.")
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: return
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: \\\Note(""=nil)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: mis
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: nil returns false in lua.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: doesn't look like it
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: but "" is not nil, is empty.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: I wish i new what that meant madcatz (about put a return in the if block) i know which if block you mean but not sure what you mean by a return
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Note(nil==false) returns false.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: that's  correct.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: nil  is not a value
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: "" is not nil, though.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, I just end the if and go on...that won't work
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: "" is an empty string.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wired like Anaristos rapidly nods twice at Arcidayne, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: after that line, Luanewb, put a new line, and type "return" (without quotes)
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's a type string, so it doesn't return nil.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: should fix the problem
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: you have to check for "" not nil.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: anaristos send me a tell pls
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: or if you want to do extra work, check for the string length.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: wildcards[2] is not "".  it's nil
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: the problem i think is with the tonumber() function beiung there
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wired like Anaristos Tech: then you can do: if not  wildcards[2]...
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: which is the exact same thing as what I"m doing
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: did you try what I suggested, Luanewb?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: its caused me untold grief
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: that should fix the problem
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: not yet
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, the tonumber is needed for the >
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: oki will try
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: alternatively, you could also change that end...if, to an elseif
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: after the colournot line you mean madcatz?
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: should accomplish the same thing
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Madcatz.
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: after ColourNote ("yellow", "", "You need to provide a value.")
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: same error same line im afraid
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: 79*:   elseif tonumber (wildcards [2]) > 99 then
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: [string "Plugin"]:79: attempt to compare number with nil
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: are you putting anything into the wildcards? :P
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: thats the whole point
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: oh, actually, I haven't looked at the alias
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I bet it uses two wildcards
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: it does
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: in which case, change the nil to ""
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: like Anaristos said :P
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: doh! ok will try that
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: YES
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: IT WORKS :d
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
T3/r7/2015-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Luanewb )
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StinkySusan Tech: how do you make triggers
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on your client
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using the aard MUSHclient package: tinyurl.com/aardclientfaq
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always a good idea to read "help botting" first, just for a bit of orientation
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StinkySusan Tech: ty. what i'm trying to do won't be illegle
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Two That Dangles Tech: Got a Mushclient ? here, My search & Destroy window went up to far, not I cant select it to bring it back down, anyone know the command to reset the window?
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorvez Tech: think its just xset reset
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorvez Tech: or xset gui reset
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Two That Dangles Tech: I tried that, doesnt do anything
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: oops.
T3/r7/2015-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Two That Dangles Tech: Xset reset gui   wins it, thanks alot everyone.
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i would go with con since your a mage to survive in battle longer
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: mis
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: so this tier until 131
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: mis
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: One M9 or SGS6?
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: wait wrong channel
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: how do i get an alias to not echo to output? i clicked the omit from output box but i still see it
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: send to Execute?
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd be the top-left checkbox in game -> configure -> commands, the global setting for it to echo commands you typed
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: to script
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i still want to see my commands. i just don't want to see that particular alias' send
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i tried it as an execute and a send and both show the output
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SendNoEcho()
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks, that's what i needed :)
T3/r7/2015-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganistos Tech: Greetings, does anyone know how I can set up mapping for mudlet
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: i have lost my capture window for the aard map - whihc plugin do i need to reinstall?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The one that says ASCII in it.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: how would I go about saving a variable from session to session in a plugin? I'm guessing I need to use on plugin savestate ?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: would anyone mind taking a peek at this and telling me why the variable current_attack_spell STILL wont save from session to session? - http://pastebin.com/MGKnUQnD
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: it's an attack spell plugin to work with ww's s&d
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: botting?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: erm..
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: no.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: all im trying to do is have an alias with a variable that works also with ww's s&d
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luanewb Tech: that saves the variable from session to session (the part i cant get to work)
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone there? got net issues
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: Im here
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: not the most experienced and might not be able to help
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I feel like you can't help
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: XD its ok i probobly cant
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's okay you're still awesome
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: helps to say what your issues are.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: ^^ what tormat said
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he starts typing and his net stops
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's pretty funny
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: you said net, is this on a computer or a cellphone?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mm
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ping to router is 'gen failure'
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: wifi
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's a desktop PC I think
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he changed MB, changed CPU
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's ping to 127.0.0.1 however
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he changed his wifi adapter as well
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: does he have this problem with the ethernet? or is he too far away to find out
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mm
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: was gonna ask him try lan cable
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but he hasnt
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this is retarded tho, there's no reason for it to happen
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he changed practically everything
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: including the router
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: which is a beast of a router, it's my old one
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it has like 300 horse power
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: hm
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: if its not hardware it could be software, has he done a clean install of windows since replacing everything?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: naw it's HW im pretty sure
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he reinstalled ye
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's a new desktop, he got a new one
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I feel like it's the usb, both keyboard and adapter are usb
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he changed the keyboard too, but
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: iunno
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: have him plug hte adapter into a different usb bus
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: guys is there a place where i can download a mapper that is complete that i can then import to replace my mapper?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: keyboard plugged into the back and the usb in the front maybe
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: gonna ask him if he plugged in same
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: adapter*
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: makes sense to be the issue tho
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or I gave him some ps2 adapters
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if he still has gonna tell him to try
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyone know how to insert batch with prepared query in sqlite without having to iterate over queries?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: is it possible to put a pause in a cexit ?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: in mushclient
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: pause when creating cexit or later when mapper uses it?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: later when mapper uses it
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: i.e. annwn when he's ruffling around for the mask
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: nope, sorry
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: sux
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you can put a pause into cexits
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's listed in help mapper exits...launching mushclient to see it
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: oh, so it is
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: i googled and found nothing, but missed the obvious
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: cexit_wait?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: To insert a pause during execution of the cexit, use wait(<seconds>) as one or more of the cexit moves
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: my bad :)
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: thanks abelinc
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should almost never google for aard stuff...everything's already organized for where it's available
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: heh, i thought it was impossible... RTFM 
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, cexit_wait is a different animal, that says how long after giving the command it should wait to detect what room you landed in...good for things like knossos castle where the execution takes a while
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: kobalos...
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyone here develops mush plugins using lua?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just about every plugin is a Lua plugin for MUSH, if not all of them.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am having hard time to come up with a acceptable workflow which follows the SOLID principles
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In regards to what?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: regards to everything... solid principles
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i was just wandering if anyone has come up with a solution that works
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm sorry if I'm being a bit obtuse here, but you are being very vague,. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What are you trying to make work? What "solid principles" are you referring to?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: ???
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: good, solid, fundamentalist jewish princples.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Irya SMACKS Bishoujo Raded upside the head, wonder what she did.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Irya tsks Bishoujo Raded.  You feel sorry for her.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOLID_%28object-oriented_design%29
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That was a Jewish answer. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: or doesn't anyone care here?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Jedhi most likely they don't know or they just don't care
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: May the force be with you
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am trying to write my own S&D plugin and it is starting to go astray
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, you're referring to that. I thought you were referring to solid as in concrete principles...
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: why not just use the s&d plugin, why reinvent the wheel?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No need to re-invent the wheel. Just take the current one and make it better. :P
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well i do not think winkles is as good as it could be
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Jedhi.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I've done that with several scripts myself.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and winkle does not follow a single pattern... so to modify it does not make any sense
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can still take it apart and construct your own. As for your question, I'm trying to figure out what you are looking to achieve using SOLID principles.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and the question is not about some plugin... i was just wondering if anyone here has come up with a workflow that makes the code maintainable
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i guess noone cares
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and do not tell me the principles are not important...
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: What you are trying to do is above limits of most people unless you are a pro at it
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Professional Standars
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: perhaps write note to winklewinkle
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The principles are important only to those who think they're important.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: principles of OOP are only important to people other than yourself that intend to look at the coding
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I look at coding all the time, to be honest. I just don't care. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Archidayne i do not think you have worked on projects that need to be maintained and which tend to start scaling
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably why I stick to writing my own scripts, too.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You obviously don't know me very well, then. :D
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hell, my Melvin project needs to be maintained. I just haven't gotten around to doing much of it lately.
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how do you handle SQLite in lua?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: very carefully
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: take a look at the mapper code
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well i am sorry to say that, but this is not handled at all
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: then write a better one ?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: there is a DB plugin example in the scripts folder i believe
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiklmelmo Tech: saying something is wrong and not providing a better solution is counter-productive
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am trying to... not doing a good job though
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://laravel.io/bin/VPrRz this is what i have come up so far... and i am new at lua, so this probably sucks
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: prepared statements are only to know if the query is valid... and now the next question. how to insert batch with prepared statements?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: how you would do it normally with sql
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: the end goal should be a usable ORM
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://laravel.io/bin/LkGRd
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: SQLite this is...
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but with this i do not get any errors if querie fails
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Tiklmelmo see, i am providing something
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: hope you can contribute
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: gotto go afk for 10 minutes... hope someone can help me out
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: SQLite ORM for lua would be awsome!
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: .h
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and do we have os.exit eqvialent in much?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and can alias or CallPlugin call class method... so in lua it would probably be table methos...i do not know :P tables are mix of objects and arrays
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so no lua geeks around?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: i am a lua geek, big one
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'm just a geek
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: FairyTail how to you handle SQLite in mush?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: tech -h to see what i am talking about
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: what do you mean?how do i handle it...its an akward question
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: like how to you insert batch withoud iterating over all queries using for
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: this question is so wrong jedhi :P cant get it
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: lol he wants to insert multple rows without a for loop
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, it is... please look at my examples 
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you generate a sql statement with multiple rows then single insert command
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: if i exec query on each batch item, it will be slow as hell
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: like you do in normal sql
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i do not know what is normal sql... but with lua sqlite execute i do not get any errors on if query failed. 
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: with mysql there is not that speed issue with just few queries...
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: really it shouldn't be a problem unless your inserting 1 mil+ entries
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: if you only doing under 10k entries you wouldn't see a real hit
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: just test it... i am pretty sure you have never done that before. search the web
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i have never inserted in lua sqlite but mysql you can enter thousands of entries at a time with a single insert
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: you cannot compare mysql with sqlite... in mysql batch entries with loops are ok
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and my problem is, with this example: http://laravel.io/bin/wJY5b, i do not get any errors if query failed... so how do i get the errors? 
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and this is the fast version
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: using prepared statements for each query will give me the errors, but it will be slow as hell
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and we're talking here about 10 queries or so
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ok so add ret = to the begining of the db:exec in the for loop
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: and ret will either be OK or error code if it failed
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mhh... i get double 1 on fail and 0 success
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: so what is the problem now? you have your error
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i'll check it futher... thanx alot
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you couldn't google that? cuz i did in 10 secs
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol, yeah, i could not. i was hooked with prepared statements and with how to make them work with bach
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but how do i get the error with this? like what went wrong?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: error message
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: How can i calibrate aardwolf? Its only like tjis on aard
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: my screen is all off
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: nvmnd
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerg Tech: When using the MUSH client, how can i open a second window to put all chat stuff in where i won't lose stuff?
T3/r7/2015-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Use the Aardwolf MUSH client...
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: http://gizmodo.com/this-virtual-reality-snorkel-sounds-like-a-great-way-t-1691192768
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: http://recode.net/2015/03/12/what-net-neutrality-rules-mean-for-consumers/
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: http://www.cnet.com/news/terminator-draws-closer-with-shape-shifting-liquid-metal-motor/
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/03/12/sid-meiers-starships-launches-on-mac-and-ipad-wunderlist-gets-major-mac-and-ios-updates
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: http://www.wired.com/2015/03/warren-robinett-adventure/
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so I am trying to figure out how to code a simple app for android, and the tut I am following shows you how to make the activity show a phrase, but I want to show numbers, how would i go about doing that? this is the page I am following: https://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/starting-activity.html
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: In Mush, is there a way to turn triggers on and off without opening the little blue settings screen?
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kane Tech: is there anyway to change the font where u type for mush
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: how about turning triggers on/off outside of the little blue button?
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: little blue button?
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: yeah the settings button
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kane Tech: awesome thanks abelinc
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you trying to turn off particular triggers, or all triggers?
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's the EnableTrigger() function
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: whoops just saw that
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: just one specific
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can use triggergroups to enable "classes" of triggers
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's used a lot for multiline capture trigs...trig on the start tag to EnableTriggerGroup() the capture trigs, which have 2 trigs...(1)capture everything, and (2) end tags to EnableTriggerGroup() them off again
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: i just want to toggle gags for things that get spammy
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: really simple ones
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can make aliases to do the EnableTrigger() on and off, or if the spammy things usually happen at the same time, then put them into the same trigger group and have the aliases EnableTriggerGroup()
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: how would i hook the alias to the EnableTrigger/Group?
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: oh send the alias as a command?
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: and could i name the group? Would the group name go in the parentheses?
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like alias "spamon", send to script, action EnableTriggerGroup("GroupName",1)
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and complementary alias "spamoff", oops, I did it backwards, spamon would be 0, spamoff would be 1
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you do EnableTriggerGroup("SpamTrigs",1), then any trigger with SpamTrigs in its Group field will be turned on...if you use 0 instead of 1, those trigs would be disabled (technically you can leave off the "1" as that's default behavior, but I think it's better to express it)
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ok! will try it out later - found out how to group triggers up so with that i should hopefully be all set - thank you!
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :)
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: kind of techish watching weather and it looks like the green screen image is showing up on the weather guys bow tie
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: maybe its the color of the tie
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yea maybe just thought like shating :P
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Well I would certainly like to have had that effect make Evelyn Taft's dress go invis :P
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: so youd only see her head
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: must have a pretty face
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: literalist
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: this is t
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: tech not debate lols
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I thought this is sparta
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: mesolar
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: concur carry on
T3/r7/2015-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: lol *sharing
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thethinker Tech: can u recomm
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends if she's hot or not.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh wait, this is the tech channel, not... never mind.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: That doesn't matter Arc... get yours and GET OUT!
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: is there a plugin that displays your combat skills in a window and when you click on one it casts it?
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I haven't seen a publicly available one yet.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nothing that I've heard of, but what I do is just alias my attack spells to much shorter inputs
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PermA Tryp Tech: yeah i have all mine to two letter alias
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: That would be a pretty niche use plugin, seeing as unless you want a specific damage type, most just use the highest level combat skill/spell of their pclass
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I could try that, but I fear I forget them
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Just keep realiasing each time you "upgrade" spells
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PermA Tryp Tech: u can always type alias to check em
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you built aliases slowly, you'll tend to memorize them
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have hundreds of aliases :p
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PermA Tryp Tech: same
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: i keep mine simple
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: you guys are all Einstines
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: alias ks k s
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: now the letter s is covered for kill
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I'm not sure I understand what that alias would be used for.  o.O
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: could make a MUSH alias to do k(\w), then send k %1.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: any mob that starts with the letter s lols
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Xaxz: ks -> k s, so he can type ks to kill snake, for instance.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: So you have 26 k* aliases?
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 36 - some mobs names begin with numbers.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Would only need one with my alias listing. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Why not client-side "alias k * : kill %1"?
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: k = kill in game anyway
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: "k" already kills.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I used to alias k bs when I was pthief
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: mud-side aliases are handy for very simple stuff, but most clients provide much more rubust solutions
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: k([\w\d]) would take care of what he wants.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: but k needs space after
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: mud aliases made years ago
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I use in-game aliases as variables :p
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: too much work to take them out
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: same raded
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: thats what alts are for lols
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which is why my alias would help him, because then he could do "k %1".
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: rewield = wield current weapon, redual = dual current weapon, reportal = wear current eq portal, all set by triggers as a progress through a mort
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: As long as you set the alias for regexp, k([\w\d]): kill %1    would work fine.  Since the mud will trim extra spaces between words.  Try killing something.   k  snake  works fine
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did I not just say that?
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: lols
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: In those words?  I must have missed it.  Sorry?
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: great minds think a like
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: of course you'd want it to be ^k([\w\d])$ to avoid killing something in conversation.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I didn't say anything about spaces because spaces don't matter.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Keep in mind: with that solution, if you have ANY alias or trigger which starts with k, then you are in trouble.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Well, spaces only don't matter if you KNOW they should not matter.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only if it's followed by a single letter/number.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: big big trouble ya heard!
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ks will work. kss will not.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raaza busts out his sword, sticks it between his legs and rides it in circles like a horny cowboy.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Ohhh... right.  I wasn't thinking clearly, of course.  Not often you DON'T see a regexp without */+ after the groups
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Again, not the most robust solution since you don't ALWAYS want to only provide one letter for your target
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crunchy Granola snickers with Bishoujo Raded about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zxax Xaxz raises an eyebrow at Bishoujo Raded's weird actions.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Bishoujo Raded has been here just a second ago. You wonder where she went ...
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Hey!  I'm just trying to cover all angles here.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Cmud question - What's the best method to parse a line of text that may change for a specific word?
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: WIN
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I don't really know sorry.. :(
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: does that meann Window's Internet Explorer
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, I just made a shortened url to one of the pages on the google site :P
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: time to make another one!
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a shame I can't change the old tinyurl links
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but whatev
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, this is a self-run service, so I can :-)
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: none of my urls are particularly short
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not-porn.com is probably the shortest
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my main is 8 characters (including .), abelinc.me at 10 is a good compromise for a fun name
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You should start creating groups of "NSAard Network" or "CIAard Agency" :p
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my friend has atdot.cc
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so emails are footdot.cc
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: erg
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so emails are foo@atdot.cc
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at at dot dot c c
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah. it's a lot of fun when he says it over the phone
T3/r7/2015-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I probably would have opted for at@atdot.dot
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I got up to 105 gold in Hearthstone, should I buy a pack or should I keep going and try to get to 150 to go in the Arena?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheburashka Tech: Can mushclient do python script?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheburashka Tech: or is there a plugin or extension that will allow it?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheburashka goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://mushclient.com/forum/?id=7794#42
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: read also: http://gpascal.com/scripts/forum.php?bbtopic_id=110
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: it would appear that mushclient can do python, based on the fact that it has that script language
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheburashka Tech: hmm, thanks, I will read up on this
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but I guess using Lua would be more convenient in case you need to get help with scripting here
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Still Tech: Hi all, is there a trick to using muchclient with a run prefix?  not parsing second command correctly
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you separate them with ;;?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use runto when using mushclient...use mapper goto and let mushclient figure out where you are and how to get where you want to go
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Still Tech: thank you for both ideas, I'll fiddle more
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but when trying to send ;s to the MUD, I find it easier to start the entire command with a ; rather than doubling the ;s throughout
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that doesn't work for mapper commands for me. i think it sees the call as ;mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, you can either ";command 1 ; command 2 ; command 3", or you can "command 1 ;; command 2 ;; command 3"
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper commands aren't commands sent to the MUD, so that's correct, it won't work for them
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I meant if you wanted to make a runprefix (aardcommand), you could do ;runprefix get amulet bag ; wear amulet ; enter ; down, etc.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: is there any way to use lua and execute a SQL script which join 2 tables from different databases?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: depends on exactly what you mean by "join"
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: so i have select * from db1.table1 join db2.table2 on column
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you can't normally do SQL queries cross two databases
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but you can do the equivalent logic of a join in the lua
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: i guess that will include to store the data in lua and join there :)
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, you have to store one of the result sets in lua for this -- of course, this has memory implications if your dataset is big. And you can't do indexing or anything clever like taht.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I refuse to use sql and Lua. I just create tables and save the tables.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: hmm, but there should be a way to use 2 databases in a script...like SQLite is using attach db in order to have that
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you need to do the query a lot of big datasets, you could import both databases into one, then you'd have a warehouse
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you might be able to create a temporary table to store the datasets in and then do a query on that
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I have at least 4 databases running. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: SQL just isn't build for this -- SPARQL and RDF do this nicely for instance
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: so basically you can only run a SQL syntax per connection, thats the problem
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: if there was a way to attach another connection would do that work :P
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the problem is that you are writing a declarative query, which is being executed in a query processor which is designed to work on one database
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I am sure that someone has written a double database capable query processor, but sqlite is not a likely candidate for this
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: hehe, with MSSQL you can do it :P if there is a link defined between the 2 databases
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: It's called "sqlite" for a reason
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Progress/Openedge alsso can do that - you just connect more than 1 database
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elchanan sighs.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: that makes my life harder...
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I could be wrong -- worth reading the documentation
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: q i
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elchanan just totally 8failed.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fail to hit the shift key properly and 8giggle at everyone.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: I am having an issue with a cexit in a room where I buy a key, but if I run to another room in the zone throught the cexit, the run and cexit do not go smoothly.  How can I correct this?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can you show what you're typing to set the cexit? make sure to double all semicolons
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ;; -> ;
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: when inputting the cexit into your mapper, are you doubling up your command stacking character?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, make sure you've made the cexit from the room that actually connects to the other. If you start it from two rooms away, it's not going to work every time.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: cexit command - "w;buy 1;e;u"
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: and you are using double semi-colons in your mapper cexit command?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: do you need 'open up' before going up?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: do you need to open the door to get through your cexit?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: cexit is in the same room that i want to go up
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: no, it is buying the pass for the keep at kobali
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: is it buying the pass? when it fails, are you getting the mobprog telling you that you cannot pass?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: some of those cexits require a wait(something), if I remember correctly
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: also, you are positive it is the correct pass?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: 'cause the mob didn't transfer instantly when you have the pass, so I had to add a wait(seconds)
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: the cexit works fine if I want to goto the stone gate (room up), but if I use a mapper area command, the path goes haywire
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: could be what nycta said. you may need a wait() period. also be sure that you are visible as that vendor doesn't sell to people he cannot see.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: is the wait command part of the map plugin?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i would recommend completing the goal though. keeps you from needing these things in this area, but that is kind of on a tangent to the problem as you will want to use wait() in other places in the game as well
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper help search wait
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: thank you all for your help!
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: hello
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: hello Xzubion
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: i wondering if anyone knew of any nice midi file creation software 
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: i was*
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what does it have to create?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably midi files
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: wave to midi?  haven't worked with them for years. 
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: wth is wave to midi?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: converts wav files to midi files.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: well i was hoping to find some software that i could use to create sounds i could append to triggers in this game
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you looking to compose your own note/instrument sequences or autodetect major notes in a song file?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: i guess they dont have to be in midi
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: mush uses .wav files.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: msh?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: any wav should work
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: there are a million ways to create them
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: use reaper. awesome 
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hwuaijijal: wave to midi would detect tone frequencies in a wav file and then tabulate the midi sequence for it
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thats witchcraft. 
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: meh
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: mostly math, my favorite form of witchcraft
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: some magic math using the fourier transform to determine the principle frequencies
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: yep exactly
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I probably knew it at one point, but it's wizardry to me now
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: FFTs FTW
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have known about it for 20 years but it is still a witchcraft
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: monkeys and other mammals
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: After some trouble shooting, my issue is the gate guard does his emote to allow me to pass, but there is a split second before I go to the next room.  This is split second is causing my run to command to fail.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i blame the government. that didn't give me the proper education.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Razzel - put a wait(1) in a cexit
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: FFTs made me bellieve the world is just one big singularity that everyone filters differently, and then I quit thinking about it
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: also if you're talking about Stone, they will only open the door for you if you're good-aligned, so beware
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nothings Defines buries her face in her paw and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: arnica yeah. because your brain is too small!
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: why they dont invent pills that makes our brains bigger?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Razzel: yeah, that's what wait(<sec>) is for
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lots of places do that
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: if "bigger" is your only requirement, i think you can find what you're looking for
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: Yea, I did not know I could put it in the cexit command.  Thanks again!
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: - 10
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: more brains wont help if you dont use them anyway :3
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i would use them to give me pleasure
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: is there a way to add sound to entering combat even though there is no general text to use as a trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: want the easy answer or the hard one?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure. Just scream as loud as you can when you get attacked.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Arcidayne's head.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: eh, either way you want to explain 
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorvez Tech: I mean I don't know much about this stuff but couldn't you just trigger off your prompt switching to battle prompt
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: the easy answer is changing your battle prompt and flagging a trigger. the hard answer involves writing a plugin in lua that uses gmcp to know if you're fighting.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite called JINX before Sorvez.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorvez Tech: score I got the easy answer!
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: ok ill check into that thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The fun part is setting a variable so it doesn't go off each time your bprompt fires.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: na, just use the bpromt to toggle it off after the sound and the regular promt to turn it on
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I still think my suggestion is best. Why do you need a sound trigger when you enter combat anyway? You're supposed to be at the keyboards and presumably can see when you're attacked.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and then go out leveling, getting a sound for every MOB/room...
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unless, of course, you're visually impaired, and it makes it a bit harder.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: or i want to add some audial aethetics to the game?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, another option...a couple players have created "sound packs"...
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle (author of S&D) has a sound pack on his site
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: oh cool didnt know that ill look it up 
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne hates sound because he's half deaf.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: too bad there isnt more support for the app clients
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, more than half deaf.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: smaller devices aren't very well-suited to a text-based game...tiny text coupled with crappy keyboards
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: true but there are ways around it
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are ways to live with it, it still will always suck balls compared to a computer, regardless of what the apps try to do :P
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: well u could use hdmi to plug in to a tv
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unless said apps perfect holograms and you can walk around with a holographic keyboard and monitor...
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yep, and your keyboard would still suck.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: and a bluetooth keybkard
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And who wants to carry that around with them all day? :P
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hdmi is still crappy resolution, and then you're not on a mobile device, might as well be on a PC
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: My HDMI is good resolution! *shifty*
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm quite happy watching TV on my 42" tv.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HDTV is actually lower resolution than many cell phones
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://xkcd.com/732/
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thethinker Tech: anyone use linux machine?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use one of these with my phone...about the size of iphone 4s: http://abelinc.me/minikbrd
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tons of people do
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thethinker Tech: do u use mush for client then?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people on linux do, yes
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thethinker Tech: I tried Wine to run mush buy all plugins was messed up
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard MUSHclient package is developed by a guy who runs it exclusively on linux and MacOS
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thethinker Tech: hm ok I got to search more
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: is there a way to omit some text some a trigger...for example "You raise a level! You are now level..."
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: from*
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheburashka Tech: are you trying to capture the level number to a variable?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can omit the entire trigger...
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: uh not sure but that sounds like what im trying to do lol
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you just want to gag the line or use the info somewhere else?
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: i have no idea what it means to gag a line 
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: to make it not appear on your screen
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: oh i see...how might i do that
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheburashka Tech: should be an 'omit from display' checkbox for that
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: use the leveling pattern and replace the number with a *. there'll be a box that says omit from output, check that
T3/r7/2015-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: ok thanks a lot 
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: any one here know how to get android apps working on chrome os
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: Is there a rate I should limit GMCP data requests to? Planning to send 'request quest' every 30s-1m but I'd like to make sure that's not too often
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: iirc, quest gets sent every tick
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: Doesn't look like it, I'm only seeing it when a quest event happens (q r, q c, etc) or when I request
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Get it from group info.
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Actually, group info shows your timer.
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The only issue being if you're not doing anything to expend hp/mp/mvs, then it won't update.
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: Is the group data still sent when not in a group? Threw a 'gmcpsend group on' and haven't gotten anything
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stampeding Anaristos Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stampeding Anaristos Tech: you have to create a group even if you are the only member.
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: Got it working, appreciate your help
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: aardwolf wiki down?
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's up for me
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: down here
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: down here 
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: probably a DNS thing then
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xexit Tech: wiki is back up reachable in germany
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVw27HQdVLksAtqFx.9w4
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: lols cut me off
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: downforeveryoneorjustme.com
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: dafaq
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: whats the ip address for aard wiki? i've heard that helps dealing with DNS related problems...sometimes
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I get 66.228.127.35 when I ping aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: I cant even ping aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yes because it's a DNS issue :p
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you should be able to ping the IP address, but you won't be able to ping/connect to the aardwolf.com address until the DNS you use starts routing to the correct IP address
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: thats the case. I can ping but not connect
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: blocked ports by ISP
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wouldn't be an issue with ports
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if he cannot connect to port 80 on 66.228.127.35 then it is issue with ports
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that doesn't make sense, if it was a port issue, nothing on port 80 would work
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: meaning...no websites
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: Raded has you there... :P
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: two ways to fix it immediately: edit your hosts file, or change your DNS. third way? wait until your DNS updates. here's how to edit the hosts file if you're impatient: http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/how-do-i-modify-my-hosts-file
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gildos Tech: what if change DNS to other?
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: Does clearing my DNS cache help?
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gildos Tech: like 8.8.8.8
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: using one of Google's DNS servers would probably work
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: usually makes web browsing a little bit slower than using your ISP's default DNS though
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: though with editing the hosts file, you'll have to go back and edit it again if the IP address ever changes
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: now working again for me
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: I did nothing
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: same here. It works again
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when you type real fast on a keyboard it stops responding, also wifi drops
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cant figure out why
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: changed everything
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crej Tech: volt drops becauase of short on keyboard
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what does that mean, do I need another psu
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: new keyboard
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he bought different pc configuration, still same issue, it's kinda ridiculous
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crej Tech: possibly. but could be keyboard..... is anything common to both configurations
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the mouse but I sent him a different mouse
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if everything changed but the keyboard and the problem involves the keyboard...it's the keyboard.
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: changed the keyboard bro
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the same type or other manufacturer ?
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well then the house is haunted
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: hm im not sure about brand
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: one is a4 tech
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe he's just not telling me something :P
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: when you say different PC configuation, you mean this is happening on two machines with no common parts?
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: at first he told me his wifi drops only :P but now he tells me his keyboard also stops responding
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: gonna skyke him tomorrow
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: skype
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well if he's the only thing in common between the two machines then it's something specific he's doing
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: gonna check wif him tomorrow cause it's ridiculous
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crej Tech: something is common to both pc configs. either that or the mains is noisy or software is causing the issue.... on a mac the mouse has been known to cause wifi issues
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the only thing I could think of is that the electric wiring could be wonky or there's some software he installs that's messing with things, but it's a lot more likely there's a common piece of hardware causing the issue
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe he used the same psu :P
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like a boss
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I told him to use a ps2 adapter but he said it wont light up
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crej Tech: could it be that he is hitting the keyboard hard and its flexing the adaptor or a cable
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that doesn't seem like something that would happen with multiple keyboards though
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: would cause the wifi drop
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: wouldnt
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and he doesnt really type that fast :P
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crej Tech: oppps forgot about wifi
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's pretty retarded, and there's ping to 127.0.0.1 when it happens, just disconnects from the router :P
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crej Tech: is the router common ?
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and only happens when it's cold
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crej Tech: the mystery gets worse
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: one was an old cisco router, dont remember the brand, but I sent him my beastly asus router :P
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: he should probably just get a typewriter
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: told him to just try lan cable
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if you're using usb 3.0 port, there's a known issue with usb 3.0 interfering with wifi
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well it might be
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glacto Tech: I downloaded the S&D plugin and moved it too far up now can't move it down. is there a way to reset this?
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like xset reset gui
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or something in that spirit
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glacto Tech: thanks and is there a newbie guide on how to work s&d? I just have a black box. I know it can be pretty involved so want to read up a lot before i ask questions on it
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: Anybody know where i can find some plugins for blowtorch MUD client
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dont think there's plugins for that
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there are not plugins for it
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you want to use plugins on a phone, your best bet is to remote to a computer that has a full client
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or could use windows os
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: what about the client that comes when you download aardwolf
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you dl a client that has some aard stuff
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the Aard MUSH client? yes there are plugins for that
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's mushclient
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: where can i get them at?
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shore Tech: Plugins for mushclient i mean
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: bast has a bunch, winklewinkle has some
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: and a lot are preloaded
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: plugins for wud
T3/r7/2015-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: winkle has some
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: apparently some option for usb to save energy fixed the issue iunno
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: retarded
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: and I just typed mapper find on my aws instance
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: i typed 'recall' in a gchat yesterday
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good place to run MUSHclient
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: ueah... but I dont think I have a business case for runnign mush on AWS :)
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: is there any way to make the mapper working with nomap rooms? like andarin ones?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a cexit to go past the room
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: doesnt work...
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the room won't be the destination, but it allows you to go to rooms past nomap (also handily used for clanhalls to get to the area exits)
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: i want it as destination, for andarin i dont have rooms past it
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: why doesn't 'help note reading' seem to work?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: you overwrite it with an alias probably
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: nope, help note writing and help note works fine.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: That was the first thing I checked
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: All I needout out of that file was how to search a board by author
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: type echocommands, and try it again
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it echos other things, but not that particular command
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: your answer is note from author, not that it solves your problem...
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: thank you Arcidayne, I just wound up disabling miniwin_help as that seems to be the cause of the issue
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Can someone tell a rank newbie what's wrong with his alias?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: not until we know what your alias is
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: If there's a semicolon in your alias, you probably need 2 instead 
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this a mud-side or a client-side alias?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ok, so I name my alias ZZ  first line  Strangle %1, Second line Back %1, Third line Burnt, fourth and fifth line Bodycheck.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the alias is "ZZ", then there's no %1
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: The mud recognizes all the commands, but it doesn't pick up the target.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: clientside alias make it ZZ *
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUDside aliases will allow either a target or multiple commands, not both, as mentioned in the helpfile's section on multiple commands
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ok, so once I put commands after the line with the target, it negates everything?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: ?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by "lines", this is in MUSHclient's alias settings window, yes?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if so, then it's not MUDside, since that's a client window
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: That's what confused me.  
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: about the answer I got.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that narrows it down to what we mentioned about MUSHclient...your alias of "zz" doesn't have any part of the alias command to be an argument
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you had not answered the clarification questions, so you were given answers for both scenarios
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ayasinda's answer would be the right one...make your alias ZZ *
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I thought I wanted to avoid putting similar words in the name of the alias as well as in a command line.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the %1 needs to be "associated" with something...for non-regex, that would be a * wildcard...for regex, that would be a parenthesis-enclosed bit
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: ZZ*
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: AH!  Thank you!
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that being said, know who you're fighting before using an alias that makes you unable to flee or heal for 5 rounds...
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Yes.  I found that out just by command stacking.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use a similar command, though, I call mine "nuke :-)
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Dang!  Ok, I changed my Alias name to ZZ* and it still sends the commands to the mud, but still doesn't pick up the target.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: add a space
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: ZZ *, not ZZ*
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Tried that.  ZZ *, ZZ*,  
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure the "regular expression" checkbox is unchecked
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Yep.  No reg exp.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Hey!  Thanks guys!
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Thanks guys!
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I ashcanned mine and started over following your guidance.  Works like a charm!!
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, what changed?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, gremlins
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: What's general consensus on proper laptop charging practices?  Read an article that states it is good to keep your laptop power around 40-60%, and at least twice a year to allow battery to fully drain and then recharge.  Also if you are doing intensive tasks to remove the battery and keep your laptop plugged in instead.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: keeping it at around 40-60% is silly
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: unplug it when you are not using it, buy a new battery when the old one is knackered
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: I've just had issues in the past of batteries not lasting for me.  Trying to identify what I am doing wrong
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: and i've read by leaving your laptop plugged in always puts a strain on the battery
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: depends on what kind of battery it is
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice at Gym Leader Mokg, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: leaving it plugged in all the time is a good way to break your battery
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: depends on the charging system too, a lot of newer gadgets simply cut off flow to the battery if the battery is full and you're plugged in
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: overcharging is generall considered bad -- I charge mine all the way up, then drain it, all the way up, etc
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you're doing things where your laptop becomes very hot, like gaming, it's not a bad idea to have the battery out. it's also not great to store it at 100% charge for long periods of time.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no matter what you do though, it'll deteriorate over time
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I swear there was an option to make Mushclient sounds play when Mush is minimized, but can't seem to find it anywhere...anyone know where it is?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how do i walk up or down in mushclient without using a keyboard?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ESP?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Without keyboard, you can make buttons, but better to use numpad if you have it.
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I mean, you can use the keypad
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: is there a way to set a priority values to triggers
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: so that if they are triggered at the same time one is essentially delayed
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Each line can only trigger one trigger, iirc
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I believe they fire in order of interpretation
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: hmm can a delay be set?
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I'm sure it can
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: sequence
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: lower fires first
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: oooh ok ya i thought sequence but guess i didnt play around with it enough heh i thought maybe higher fired first
T3/r7/2015-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: thanks a lot 
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: I'll be doing a lot of enchanting on a single same item and I'd like to track how each enchant fairs, is there a easy way to log this with the mushclient?
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: or perhaps I just need to know, is there a way to set a variable, have triggers + x to that variable, and then retrieve that variable later?
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: all just numbers
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm using Bast's three moons tracker. it errors out when I start up, but if I go into plugins and do a reinstall, it seems to work. the first time, it brought up an actual window that showed time until next three moons, but that doesn't happen any more
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: do any plugins need to be installed in conjunction with it?
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: right it doesnt.  you have to call the window, after ...
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: type 'mb moons show' to populate the window again.
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there it is, awesome, thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: anyone know where Bast's moonbot miniwin is supposed to show?
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it pops up in its own window but I believe it needs to see all the moons go down/up at least once before it'll pop up
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ohhhh!  that must be the problem.  Thanks, Raded.
T3/r7/2015-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Anyone here used acronis to clone an HDD and transfer to SSD?
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Installed my SSD.....my 1 minute- 1 minute 30 seconds boot from shutdown has changed to < 5 seconds.  Was stunned
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: who cares
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Welcome to the Light side of owning a PC.
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Regulus grins evilly.
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nazar Tech: yeah, I don't shutdown ever...
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: an SSD is now one of the basic human needs
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: I was just doing speed tests.
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Otherwise, agreed.
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Shutting down is almost pointless.  Restarting, however..
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Well, you have to shutdown after cloning your hard drive to replace the hdd
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: how do I save triggers in mushclient without restarting?
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: hit the save icon
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: will try that ty
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: How do I remove these awful tabs at the beginning of channels?  {chan ch=clantalk}
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: it's useful for some clients though
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Isn't MUSHclient considered the default now?
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: It's the recommended one on the website, last I checke
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: it is, don't worry if it works fine
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Just seems silly that it's a default setting.  Looks absolutely freaking awful.
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: I can't be sure, but I THINK my mushclient needs the bigmap, channels, coords, map, mapexits, mapnames, says and tells tags on
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: yep, it does
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: It's probably because I think the map function is the absolute worst in every way, shape, and form.
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: So I immediately disable and block every function of it
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: which? Fiendish's mapper?
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Any mapping anything ever.
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: I never knew anything better, so it was magically to be able to automatically warp to any quest room
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: magic*
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: totally takes away from the game, in my opinion
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: I have to agree on that
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: but even if you were to only use functions like xrt to automatically use your portals to shorten speedruns, I think it's a fair deal.
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: im having issues with a stuck key on my laptop - no matter what i do, it thinks im holding a ctrl key down. pulled the keys off, put paper between the rubber part and the contact, but it's still registering Ctrl presses. any ideas?
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: disable sticky keys option in ctrl panel?
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: if you aim better, you won't have sticky keys
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: i am a carpet bomber
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: sticky keys is not on
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: rebooting brbbrb
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well, good news bad news: good news, they're not stuck down any more. bad news: two of the tiny itty bitty plastic nubs snapped off the part that holds one of the ctrl keys down, so it's there mostly for show now.
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: oh nice...is that a laptop you are using?
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, he mentioned laptop in the OP
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: at last, my long nightmare of the stuck key is...still going on because I permanently broke one of the keys.
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but not both!
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: does anyone know how to make mush save triggers and aliases? My computer just crashed and the triggers/alias/variables i had are gone. And everytime i open my mush client my windows are always screwed up any suggestions on how to fix it?
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: press ctrl-s
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: I randomly save it 
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: but shouldn't mush autosave? I had made the triggers and stuff last night and when it crashed they are all gone
T3/r7/2015-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: there is plugin for autosave...otherwise mush doesnt autosave
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: anyone know of any way on a gateway with windows 8.1 how I can control my fan speed? running too hot and the fans not kicking on when I feel it should
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: laptop*
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: does speedfan work with 8.1? I haven't tried it.
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: I tried it doesnt have any settings I can change on it like gateway has locked the board or windows 8.1 is controling it so it doesnt give the option or something 
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: I'm surprised the fan isn't kicking on.. I'd call their support and ask how to adjust it
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: yeah. if speedfan can't control it, the fan or mobo itself is likely faulty
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: some cmos allows you to control fans there. you can check that on boot as well, but being a gateway, i am not optimistic about that
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: I tried through the bios no settings.... seems like it does come on and runs like heck when I first power it on but as soon as windows 8.1 loads it kicks it down and its not running as fast
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: It may also be haunted. You're going to need an old IT guy, an young IT guy, and a 2 liter of mountain dew
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: I have the dew :) 
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: You'll also need.. if I remember correctly, a system speaker, a first edition player's handbook, and a mini-maglite.
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there could be some Gateway software that is included on the computer that would let you modify it
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nono it's D&D Third Edition that's needed
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: wasnt sure if windows had IE winini/sysconfig anything like that could be set to adjust it manually
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Still running 7 here, and my 8.1 machine is at work, so I can't test unfortunately.
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: one other thing to check would be the power scheme windows is using
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: make sure it isn't in some low-power scheme
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice at Mr. Dash, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: Is a Gateway NV52L with A8 with onboad video
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: I set it to high perf and even tried individually setting all the power schemes on the passive/active fan conrol
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm surprised there's no settings in the BIOS settings
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: according to the manual the speed is controlled by the OS
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I haven't used it, but you can try this: http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: he said speedfan isn't working, it might have the fan speed locked down somehow.
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: bishou I currently have speedfan installed
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no idea then
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: Not sure if Im not setting it right or if its not reading the board or what seems like it shows the temp of my GPU/CPU/HD
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I would almost suspect there's one part in the process not working
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: unless you've gone crazy tweaking settings, the laptop should always kick the fan into high gear once it detects temperature beyond a certain threshold
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: looks likes speedfan is detecting all my temps but none of the fans
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: fan is running right now but really slow
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, third party software's not perfect
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: According to the specs, it should do 0-3000 RPM at 45-50C, 0-3300 RPM at  55-66C, 3300-3800 RPM at 68-74C, 3800-4100 RPM at 78-83C, and 4100-4800RPM at 86-91C, with shutdown at 100C
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: I keep getting that shutdown while gaming
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: seems like that fan should kick on high before it shutsdown dont you agree?
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Hmm. And you don't hear the fan ramping up when that happens?
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: nope
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: seems like after windows 8.1 loads its on low speed and DOES NOT speed up at all doesnt matter what I run 
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toxik TearNyne Tech: Imma get to the bottom of this today you bet 
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Nothing coming up while googling about, I'd definitely call gateway support, they probably get this call a lot.
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: judging by the number of threads about it overheating
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: got a window question about aard mushclient.... how do I bring new windows up? I want to get the communication window back up
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: resetaard will reset all window positions.
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: brilliant thanks they must have been hidden
T3/r7/2015-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: how can I fix 'Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.'? from minwin_eq
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i have a wierd tech problem about SnD
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: one of my cp mobs is in umari. SnD thinks that mob might be in a new area called u;5;2. when i use xcp 4, it takes me to a room right outside an area. when I delete the room and re-explore it manually, it goes to the outside of a different area. underdark, masq, verume, even infero and the corners of the inner sea?!
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use S&D for that target...use your brain :P
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i know but i still want to know why its happening
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's happening because S&D guesses
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: but how did it record a nonexistant area?
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it didn't
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it guessed an existing room
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: it thinks its an area
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: or the starting room of an area or something
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D isn't making a decision between an area and a room
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's designed to allow for both types of campaign, so it doesn't limit its searches to one or the other
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: so it guessed a room, still why do i get something as wierd as u;5;2
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's probably an errant custom exit somewhere
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: can't be, when I delete and re-explore the room it chooses another room
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that doesn't mean it can't be
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: little bobby tables is getting to you
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: on ALL those rooms?
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: what?
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google little bobby tables, take the first link
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: http://i.imgur.com/l0RwwwV.png
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, I believe what you claim to be seeing
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I'm saying that it's because S&D is misinterpreting what it's seeing, both from the MUD and what it's getting back from a query
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rely on a hack and you'll get bit sometimes
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: So just hooked up a pi to my network to run headless. It's connected via ethernet to the router. I have a laptop connected to the router wirelessly, which can see the pi, and a desktop, connected via ethernet, which cannot. Running windows on both computers.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Losarius Tech: You cant ping it?
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Not from the desktop, no.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: At least not by name. Laptop can ping it by name.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can you ping by ip?
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Losarius Tech: same network? ping by ip?
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if so, then the issue is with name resolution rather than with network configuration (different subnet masks, etc.)
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Losarius Tech: sounds like abel has this :D
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Cannot ping by ip from desktop. Ping by ip through laptop does work.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd do an ipconfig /all on both windows boxes, my first guess would be that the desktop is configured to use something like 8.8.8.8 while the laptop is using the router
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for dns resolution, that is
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Ah, yeah, that might be it. I had to chance my dns to resolve aardmud.org
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, the public Internet doesn't know the name/internal IP of your pi, so you'd have to use an internal resolver to get that...for a small home network, you can add a manual record to the hosts file which is in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc (edit with text editor), the file gives examples
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: for fun, change google.com to youporn, ask your gf why she watch so much porn later
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: host files can be fun :P
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Alright, thanks. Otherwise, I reset the DNS back to automatic.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: someone say pi? as in Rpi?
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost tosses a pie at Fatal FrostBite and hits him right in the FACE!
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite smirks at Vost's saying.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: sec while I catch up on convo =P
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: sounds like Abe got it. What OS you running out of curiosity?
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Just stuck with Raspbian.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Schweet. I'm building a Rpi NAS currently. That's why I got excited for the convo =P
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Heh, yeah, I got a 5tb drive to connect to it to have constant mass storage.
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite enthusiastically high-fives Navi!
T3/r7/2015-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: love the Bast Statmonitor
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impmansa Tech: help anyone  ?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fireflies Tech: Not sure how much help i can give but ill try
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impmansa Tech: ok thanmks
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impmansa Tech: how do you return visibility to telnet , the set echo command
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: you can always use local echo. how to turn it on will depend on your telnet client
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impmansa Tech: yeah ive used it once but ive forgotten the command
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fireflies Tech: how do i copy a link from a tell in blowtorch?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Url scan?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fireflies Tech: English?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Standard setting in lensdroid.....blowtorch should have it.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orsiphantes Tech: Ummmm Question
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orsiphantes Tech: I'm using the modified aard mushclient. I moved one of my windows, and now I can't get it back down.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: can anybody remember the mushclient command to reset layout ?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: try 'resetaard' or 'xset gui reset'
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: resetaard did the trick. thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: or was it xset reset gui?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lackluster Lachdanan bows deeply.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: chat isnt coming up in the chat window...any ideas?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: did you turn tags off?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: hm Tags are now on.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and its working?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: nope
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you disable all captures?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: is it scrolled to the bottom all the way?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: heh yup its scrolled down
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right-click, customize channels, select all
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: ok, they were all selected already
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe you disabled the channels tag then
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: would i use 'tag on' to enable?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tags channnels on
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also tags on
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reloading the plugin should do that for you
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: ok, both are on, but nothing
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so maybe just reload the plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can see a list of which tags you have on or off by just typing tags
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: woohoo, thanks guys, not sure wtf was going on, but just rebooted the client 
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: any error in the plugin (maybe one happened and you missed it) will halt trigger processing for that plugin, so reloading it will fix those at least temporarily
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: is there a way to delete an exit from a room in the mapper?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right-click the room, choose "Delete exti"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: spelled correctly, of course.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: i dont see that option
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're right-clicking on the graphical mapper?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right click the room on the mapper miniwindow...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: On the specific room with the option?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and you get what options?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What version AardMUSH do you have?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one with the boxes, not the letters
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That too, the actual room, not room name.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: change font, show coordinates, bring to front, send to back, reset defaults
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: not that miniwindow.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wrong miniwindow
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the OTHER mapper window :P
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: the bigmap looking one?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The graphical one, not the ASCII one.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the mapper, not ascii minimap
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one where you can usually click on a room to run to it, yes
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: i dont see another window...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lol, the joys of troubleshooting
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: then you probably have it covered up by something else
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the map we are describing will have in the top cetner the name of the room you are in and in the bottom center have the name of the area
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: im on a continent, maybe thats why?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're on a continent...it is the bigmap-looking one
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: yeah, right clicking only show bring to front, send to back
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you need to change the exit of a continent room, type bigmap off
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: right clicking now doesnt bring anytthing up
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you likely have to do what abelinc suggested first
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: there we go, ran back to the room and now i can
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: all set? :P
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that was fun
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: got it, thank you!
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lol
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: you're all rockstars
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: click that one... nope wrong... nope wrong.... nope wrong.... yeah that one
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: i wasnt aware of bigmap off, that changed things
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i've never needed it
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: my mapper had a weird down exit leading to wildwood
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, abelinc.me/mapper...about half-way down the page it talks about bigmap vs non-bigmap
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ah
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no one reads useful documentation abe
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you know that
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish: is there any way to do a ToC on the github wiki pages?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: im a programmer, screw documentation
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No one reads documentation, period.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you should clickbait title it... "10 things about the mapper Lasher doesn't want you to know about!"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and then make it a slide show with unrelated pictures
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: This has to be the weirdest suicide ever. Jo Jo Jo Joelz nods so wildly at Scars his head must fall off any second. Or so Scars seems to hope.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and then it'll be read
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: "Kate Upton's secret room exit trick that you'll love!"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or how about, "This weird trick with the mapper causes you to run faster!"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: "T9's are mad because of this mapper feature"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you could put almost anything under that
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seriously
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: whiney pants old farts
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: <Your location> residents are SHOCKED to find out about this new Mapper law!
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: "Clan websites are losing web traffic due to this ONE mapper trick"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: "9 out of 10 people stronger than you don't want you to know about this trick"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He opened up the Mapper, and what he found was INCREDIBLE!
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 7 secrets to a bigger mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Players are turning into bots using this search and destroy plug in!
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lol
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sadly, clickbaiting works. I bet if Lasher clickbaited Aardwolf, we'd have hundreds of people coming here. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: "Pay for play gaming industry could be crippled by this start up!"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: forget how to reset the cp menu when it gets off screen too far to click on and drag back in
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: anyone remember?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheburashka Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which one
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: uhh winkle i guess 
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: thats it
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: thanks biker
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orsiphantes Tech: Got a question
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, no one is stopping you from asking it.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Cowbells
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orsiphantes Tech: When I type who, it just shows the whole list with no pauses. How do I fix it back to where I have to hit enter for the next set.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stampeding Anaristos Tech: read help pagesize
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: pagesize
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orsiphantes Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: hey there, is there a way to tell if the game is done with sending a pack of data, so i could process it as a whole?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would normally look for the "end" part of the data...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many types of data in the game have "tags" to demarc their start/end...you can use the "echo" command to create ad-hoc tags for any data that you want
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: how? lets say the output from bigmap is too big to send in one pack, so sometimes it gets interrupted inside a color code which messes with my triggers
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, there are tags for helpfiles, such that if you have them on, the game will send "{help}" before a helpfile, and "{/help}" after the helpfile...you can do window captures using those
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bigmap similarly has a set of tags
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {bigmap} and {/bigmap}
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags" to see different tags and your settings for them
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: i know about that, the problem is when the data is split in a ansi color escape sequence like "0x1b[1;37"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: that becomes a messy situation XD
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the definition of the pack of data for the game to be sending, so dunno what more you're looking for
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: let me put it this way: i send the 'bigmap' command, i have 200 bytes of data coming my way from server, and i run my map trigger on that data, but the actual map is lets say 300 bytes, so its incomplete and my trigger wont work until its complete, so i should wait for it to finish, but since i have no idea that there is more data coming, im in trouble
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: - 15
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you do have the idea that more data is coming...that's precisely why there's an end tag...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: As they have been saying.  Using tags solves your issues.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have not seen {/bigmap}, then there is more data coming
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I've never had issues with parsing large data like that, and my client's pretty much the oldest one out there
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you really don't need to parse bigmap, btw
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: true, the problem is that i recieve a pack and run my triggers on that then flush it and run them again on the next pack, so if it is incomplete my triggers wont work, but then again it might be my fault for implementing it like that
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're trying to see where you are in the bigmap, then use the coords
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if that's what you're doing, then you're doing it wrong...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: no no, thats just a generic scenario
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: can u provide a better solution?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: how do i know when its right to run triggers?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to parse on anything, then parse on end of line...you should not be parsing on a TCP packet
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because by their very definition, they're pretty arbitrary
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, IMO the best answer is to not reinvent the client wheel when there are plenty which already handle things perfectly and have way more features and control than you'd be able to implement in a decade
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: oh i love the challenge :D and i have done this with batmud before with alot of flexibility in my client, i have full scripting in it :D
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: especially since, if you are trying to implement a client, you'll also want to make sure that it implements both MCCP and GMCP fully
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: what are those? :D
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so batmud never sends a large amount of data ever? this can't have been your first experience with data hitting an MTU
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp puts data into a zlib stream for compression, and on Aard you're rewarded for using it with an extra 2 QPs per quest
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: actually it did, but it happened so rarely that i ignored it ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GMCP sends a whole truckload of data using telnet negotiation options for client-side parsing
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's designed to make scripting much more bulletproof
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: ok thanks for the info, ill need to dig down on those now :)
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica backs an armor plated dump truck up to the telnet port
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerno Tech: hi, after each command i see a prompt with all my stats natural and modified, along with more numbers... what is the command to disable it?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: statmon
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerno Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Any programmers on?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Ask
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: If I have a parent class and a child class, and I'd like to access and potentially modify an array in the parent class from the child class, how can I go about doing this?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: (If it helps, I'm working with C#)
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byzandula Tech: Get a vasectomy for your parent classes so they can stop making children classes?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I've tried and failed with indexed properties, but after researching it I feel it's probably what I'm supposed to be doing
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Nobody can help me D:
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: do you want something that's "good" or just something that works?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Either at this point :P
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: So you want the array in the parent class to be publicly available for modification by children classes? wrong approach in my opinion. Go database
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: send me the code
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: (note)
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Basically, I have a PlayerController class, a PlayerClass class (child of PlayerController that handles stat adjustments based on the player's current class), and then PlayerMovement which is a child of PlayerClass.  PlayerMovement needs access to the movement speed stats on PlayerClass.  Is this model shitty? :P
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am having a bit of trouble with addtrigger in a script, anyone on who wants to tell me how I am being studpid?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: what code you using?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lua, its all packaged inside an alias right now until I get it working
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: i mean, line of code for addtrigger
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: AddTrigger("mob", "^"..GetVariable("curMobFullName").." .*$",SetVariable("curCPRoom","%1")
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: , 32768 , custom_colour.Custom15, 1, "", "")
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I didn't realize it cut it weirdly until I looked back at the chat log, lol
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: sorry that's beyond my knowledge :/
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: err experience anyway
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: you can do regex inside addtrigger?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I can't get it to actually honor the %1 and use the wildcard associated with it
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few thoughts on it, though, are that there's no real reason to end the pattern with " .*$", since (other than the space) it's syntactically redundant...also, you have nothing to be the %1 in the action
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have a wildcard pattern
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: the *$ should be the wildcard
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %# for a regex is associated with ()
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not "wildcard", it's "capture group"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: So what would I have to do to get it to capture that next part? I seem to be missing something
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yeah, if you plan to capture the part after the mobname, leave the .* in, but put it in parenthesis...although presuming that this would be triggering on something like "where" output, you'd want to allow for multiple spaces before the capture begins
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your capture would be ^<mobname> +(.*?)$
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: so just a flat (*$) would work there?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ah
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I really need to get better with regex
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or make it non-regex
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's just <mobname> *
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I tried that and it didn't like it
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ok, well neither of those worked.. not really sure what I am doing wrong
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: AddTrigger("mob", "^"..GetVariable("curMobFullName").." *",SetVariable("curCPRoom","%1"), 32768 , custom_colour.Custom15, 1, "", "")
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: that does not work at all
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define doesn't work at all...is the trigger created, or is it created and doesn't work?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: a trigger is created with a send of "0"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: The variable was not updated
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the variable wouldn't be updated unless the trigger fired...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where did you get your 32768?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: from the documentation for OneShot
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you left off the other flag(s) that you need, though
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: such as to make it a regex
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that pattern won't fire unless you're actually looking to match the TEXT of ^<mobname> +(.<random stuff>?)$ (mobname and random stuffbeing the only non-literals)
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so from the AddTrigger() helpfile, you'd have to add the 32 from Regular expression to the 32,768 for One-shot and the 1 for Enabled
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I just don't know why compilers just don't take bit strings.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you want each of those flags to be active
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ok, so now it highlights the entire ^mobName      RoomName
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: then echos a 0
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: so parts of the trigger are working, it just is not executing the send part correctly
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: AddTrigger("mob","^".. GetVariable("curMobFullName").." +(.*?)$",SetVariable("curCPRoom","%1"), trigger_flag.Enabled+trigger_flag.RegularExpression+trigger_flag.OneShot+trigger_flag.Replace , custom_colour.Custom15, 1, "", "")
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: that gets it to at least do something, just not what I was looking for
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ok, is it not working becuase the AddTrigger documentations says its a Send to world, no way to change that over to send to script or Execute.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try AddTriggerEx("mob", "^"..GetVariable("curMobFullName").." *",'SetVariable("curCPRoom","%1")', 32801 , custom_colour.Custom15, 1, "", "",12,100)
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, the "12" in what I just posted is send to script (requiring the Ex at the end of AddTrigger for extended properties)
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: the 12 is soundfilename in what you sent me
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: opps you sent a addtriggerEX
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, the first "" is sound
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the second "" is scriptname, the 12 is where to send to, and the 100 is sequence
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it highlighted the mob name and left the room name white, but did not update the variable
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the trigger that it created (also, you should be deleting the triggers between tries, if you're not already)
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what was in the send box of the created trigger?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it didn't make a trigger?!
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you have it creating a 1-shot...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will create the trigger, but the trigger will delete itself upon firing
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so after you do the addtriggerex, look in your trigger list and open up the trigger to see if the trigger that it creates is what you're looking for
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: really, you troubleshoot the trigger you want first, THEN worry about making that trigger using AddTrigger[Ex]
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: That is what I am talking about, your trigger does not make one
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am trying to figure out what flags you have on it
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the text I sent absolutely makes a trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: let me check if I pasted it wrong or something, but nothing is coming up
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can \\\<paste it>, and can immediately open up the trigger list window to see the trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you must make sure that it will not see any line beginning with the name of your campaign mob and a space...once it sees that, it deletes the trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: well that is interesting
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (but you must have the variable named curMobFullName) when you create the trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: with /// it adds one
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: inside the alias it does not
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that the only thing that the alias does, or does it do something else as well?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it uses a wait to basicly do the hunt trick
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...so it's forcing itself to delete the trigger...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think you don't want it to be one-shot during this process
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I don't have it one shotting, the repeat I am using for the wait is piling up trigger and so was the last iteration that I had written for the roomName part, its just the stuff you had sent me that is not making one inside that alias
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do have it one-shotting, as that's what your 32768 and my 32801 say to do
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I can't find any documentation on 32801 currently, how about I just change that to 1 for now
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that won't fire
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: 321 worked to make a trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're looking in the helps for AddTrigger or AddTriggerEx, look near where you saw the 32768 for one-shot...these are bit flags using binary math to allow arbitrary sets of flags...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where it says "1" is enabled, "2" is omit from log, etc...if you wanted the trig to be both enabled AND omitted from log, then you'd use a 3
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you add up the numbers for each of the flags that you want
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I changed your 32768 (one-shot) to 32801 because we needed it to be enabled (+1) and regex (+32)
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Wow, I REALLY wish that would have been said in the documentation. I was trying to figure out how to concat them all night
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson twitches just reading that...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to make it not one-shot, then you'd use 33
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It is.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, in defense, if you hadn't come across bit flags before, it's non-intuitive...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Having spent too much of my life already cleaning up after people tried using numeric arithmetic to deal with bit flags, I feel fully justified in eyestabbing anybody who tries in the future...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ok, well the trigger it makes says the return is "SetVariable("curCPRoom","")" not "SetVariable("curCPRoom","%1")"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you'd ever worked on MUD code, though, DIKU and all of its children use it extensively
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, now we're getting there...double the %, so it's %%1
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The documentation (somewhere) specifically mentions adding the bit flags together. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, it tried to parse the "%1" as the %1 at trigger creation time rather than leaving it intact
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's the only reason I figured it out myself. :\
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ok now it is "SetVariable("curCPRoom","%1")"
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, I'm sure there's file that explains it, but certainly not anywhere that you'd normally be looking for it where the values are shown to you
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I'll file that right beside the documentation telling you to do things like "chmod 777" and "curl | sh"...
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what you wanted
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Documentation is rarely all in one place... that's the sad part.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yes, but interestingly when you try where foo, it still doesn't use that trigger to update the value it just highilights foo in green and the room name in white
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: nvm I put it back to +(.*)$ and it works great
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: any idea on how to get a wait.match to stop clogging up my triggers with temp files? 
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: nevermind I will just tag that one as a feature and go to bed 
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think I've ever used wait.match, I don't think it's the right solution
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not waiting for something, you're looking for something
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yeah the whole block feels bad, I was trying to get it to hunt n.mob repeatedly with time in between to it didn't just dump a whole list
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am using a repeat until block there and it is not working very well
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: DoAfter(timeinseconds, command) would be what you want.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't dump it, you trigger on the response
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't hunt 2.mob until you've triggered on the output of hunting 1.mob and know to either branch left or branch right
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: but how do you get that into a loop inside an alias?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, it must be asked why bother to reinvent the wheel when there are 2 plugins which are pretty polished to do everything you're doing :P
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: every write a calculator or notepad in a new language to get a feel for it?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I prefer to spend my time actually doing things that need doing :P
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pick apart existing scripts, don't build new ones.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I don't need anything currently, I am bored, so I write these
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone else has solved the problem, look at their methodology
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I learned by picking apart scripts, then started building my own.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I seem to always have issues picking them apart, as in changes made to lets say bast's hunt mod never take effect when I save them and reinstall the plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Arcidayne that is pretty much what I am trying to do, but certain things don't make a lick of sense. Look at bast_hunt.xml and tell me how he gets it to wait 3 seconds.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: You are likely editting a different copy of it than the one installed in mush
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sonet: Is there a 'DoAfter(' in that plugin?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: No
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's also DoAfterSpecial.
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Zxax, I do edit a copy of the whole folder first, then I copy the file in question over, start the mud and reinstall the file
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why would you want it to wait 3 seconds in the first place?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I still disagree that you should be telling your script to wait 3 seconds
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: wait why?
T3/r7/2015-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should have it do nothing until it sees success or fail
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then act on that success or fail
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: This prevents issues of lag.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I still am not sure how to implement that..
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Telling your script to wait 3 seconds will misfire if you lag for 5 seconds.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you define trigger of being able to hunt or not being able to hunt
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you have a trigger on the where result already... make that hunt the next mob
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll also unnecessarily slow you down if you're a hunter with huntmaster or get the huntmaster wish
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: use a variable to track the index
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I don't believe bast_hunt is doing a wait.  That's probably just the cooldown on your hunt mudside
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: As a matter of fact, I see no hint of a timer or wait on quick inspection of this script.  What you are misunderstanding is that there are several triggers that are capturing your hunt results and responding accordingly.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: so in essence what your saying is I need a trigger for every possible output from hunt foo, then have it decide on that?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Yes, look at the top of that script.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's exactly what bast's plugin does
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would always want to trigger on the output from hunt foo, yes
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they all call the same script though
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I see 12 hunt response triggers.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, how would you know whether you're seeing the output for hunt 5.mobname?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: bast's has three references to a waiting
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Just make sure to always anchor your hunt triggers!
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Madcatz is snog from here.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: with a counter = counter +1 for each go through the loop
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that won't work because they're not in sync
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you haven't seen the output from hunt 1.mob by the time you move on to hunt 2.mob, you'd assign it to the wrong one
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: the count is initialize outside of the loop at 1 so they are always in sync.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they're not
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you're not syncing to ANYTHING that the MUD sends, only what your perspective is
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I would ignore the "waiting" variable he has in there.  It seems to be something that he no longer used and didn't take out.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: that is what the repeat something until something else is for
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's not what it's for
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: oh, hmm
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. >hunt 1.mob...3 sec wait...>hunt 2.mob...<MUD outputs you cannot hunt 1.mob>...your script is already on 2.mob, so that's what you would where
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it hasn't run into that issue yet, not saying it won't but I had not thought of that seeing as I have not seen it
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you haven't identified any MUD output to move on from 1. to 2., you've just assumed that no "cannot hunt" message seen yet means that you got an "ok to move on"
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: alias 'hunt' enables two triggers. Then, when either trigger fires, disable boh triggers and send hunt again.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: but if your doing all of this inside the game, as in I am doing it with the alias and trigger buttons on the client. How would you keep track of all of that?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: you can enable and disable them in the script?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=EnableTrigger
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Notice which "script" each trigger is calling: either huntnext or huntdone.  If it calls huntnext, it increments 1.mob 2.mob, etc.  If it calls huntdone, if the trigger name is "cpmob" then it calls where.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: really need just 4 triggers, if you want to keep track of prac %...the "I can hunt it", the "no path to it", the "not here", and the "this is the right one"...
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't want to keep track of hunt prac %, then you'd expand the first trigger to each of the prac % message changes
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: you lost me at expand the trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duplicate it to be a trigger for each of them
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like bast's has it
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in my autohunt script, I trigger on {skillgain}301,# to change my prac % and reload my script, so I only have my active prac %'s trigger loaded when autohunting
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's much more anal than you'd need to be
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but basically, you'd have those 4 types of triggers, you'd have an alias to start the whole thing, and you'd have an alias to "try the next one"...each of the "I can hunt or no path to it" triggers would then call the "try the next one" alias
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which increments the counter and hunts again
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "is dead" could break out and reset counter (you don't know where the numbering will be after repop), and the "cannot hunt" would break out and do the where
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: hey Abe, I took your, and many other's, advice and decide to go off of a decision tree. I am having a slight problem that I find funny/weird. I can't get it to hunt past 4.mob
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: Any idea why my mapper has deleted everything? And by everything I mean all areas/portals/cexits
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: I got a winklewinkle error and then poof it all vanished..
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: how do I make my client stop adding a spaces between everything?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: the space between lines in the main output window (mushclient)?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: You can add a trigger in mushclient regexp ^$ and omit from output
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheburashka Tech: I think the mud 'brief' command also removes blank space
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheburashka Tech: not sure if you're talking about the same thing though.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheburashka Tech: err, compact, not brief
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheburashka Tech: Does MUSH use the statmon anymore?  Or is that just for legacy clients e.g. zmud?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's not "for" any specific client, any client that supports triggers can use it
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no plugins included in the aardmush package use it though
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the second line tells you how many "spare" stats you have.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: mis
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone know a plugin that keeps track of vorpals and death blows?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: statmon from bast?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I have the 'statmn' from bast. Is this the same?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How do I check the vorpal stats?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: not sure if it does by default...i know the db have the fields you mention about, vorpal and deathblow
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: Okay, I know I've asked before and I thought it was xset but how do you reset the starting room in an area in Mush?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: Or as far as the mapper is concerned
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: Aardwolf MUSHclient Package Update Check Error:
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: There appears to be a problem with the version information on the Aardwolf MUSHclient Package download page (below).
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzubion Tech: any idea of whats going on?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: can you define what you think is wrong?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, you're referring to the update checker.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The AardMUSH was fully moved over to Github, which may be the reason for any errors you're receiving.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You may have to manually look for an updated version yourself.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldevar Tech: Hmmm, one of my miniwindows went off the screen and I can't get it back. I've already tried aardreset and reinstalling the plugin. This is for the Search and Destroy plugin.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorvez Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldevar Tech: thanks so much guys :)
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldevar Tech: Suppose I should have looked at the help file 
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Running MUSHclient under wine, I find the keyboard goes nuts periodically -- keypresses just register the wrong keys -- any one else?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: very annoying bug, same here
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: not me
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what distro you both running?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mint 13 xfce
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: ubuntu 14.04 here. Broken when I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah -- Pumpkin do you run multiple desktops
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: multiple monitors? yes
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no -- I mean, multiple desktops with a switcher
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my impression is that it often happens after I switch from one desktop to another and then back again
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Really? That's turned on by default. (multiple desktops / workspaces)
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: it triggers on lag and my lag is usually caused by disk IO, like running to a new area with the mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: workspaces -- that's the word I was looking for
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: yeah, i'm using workspaces, but that's kind of always on, right?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I think it's off by default now, (Ixle says the opposite, but I think he is wrong) but if you use them in the past, they will still be there
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: I am trying to run to areas using clan room portals and Mushclient mapper plugin.  Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If it's public clan room portals, just mapping the area will use those portals.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The mapper is designed to find the shortest path, but you have to map it first.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: Is there a mapper command to run to the zone?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, though Winkle's plugin has xrt <zone>
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: Thanks, I will take a look at it.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the other option is to create aliases that execute "mapper goto (roomid)"
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: Ya, that option was my last resort
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't need to create aliases.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Create a table of zone start room ids, then write one alias.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: zgoto * -> Execute("mapper goto " .. zonedb["%1"])
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: where would you store that table?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a Lua table anywhere.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Could even store it as a variable and just set it to a Lua table.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I mean, if you created it in the alias you would be making a new table each time the command is used, where would you put it that it would be global an able to be used over again
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You would only need a local table to be made each time, though if you created it globally, it would store globally until you closed out MUSH.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am still not seeing how you are going to make this thing persistant enough to be able to use it
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: First you start with a variable. You can name it ZoneStarts. In that variable, you could do: zonedb = {zonename = startroom, zonename2 = startroom, ...}. That variable will save over MUSH closing/exiting. Then, when you want to run the alias, you can load it up first time.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: your going to wind up with a very long variable if you have to keep adding room starts into it
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, you will.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: why not just have a script that writes to a database if your going to do it that way?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There are other options, but for the non-coded mind, that would probably be the best.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol, how is writing it to a db a non-coded mind thing?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is easy to use sqlite tables for plugins. just need some knowhow
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because people can add things to a database mindlessly.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I don't want to nit pick, but your solution was essentially making a variable into a long and manually written database off a table.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: into a long as a string?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, because my personal solution is a bit more elaborate than that, and besides, Winkle's scripts already take care of that.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: But who wants to use someone else's work when they have the joy of making it themselves
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: who would you convert a table into a string and then write this into the sqlite db? db and tables are working so swell together
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Personally, I use tables that write to files.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Works perfectly for me.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And I can modify when I need to quite easily.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how do you write into files with lua? teach me please.....
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TableSerialization
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but this is for serializing? how do you write to file?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: its the first link on that page
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: SaveTableToFile
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: eh, yeah. sorry
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it seems, that sqlite would be much easier...
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you know sql, sure.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I know sql, and am rather interested in what you can teach also. 
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But if I want to edit just one word, element, or whatever, I want the ease of opening a text file and doing it that way.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in mush there are variables, SetVariable
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how can i change the name of my manor pie?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: might have better luck on q/a...not strictly a technical question and I"m too lazy to look at the help files for you.  I'm sure it's in one of the ones that shows up when you type help mu-
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thank you Mendaloth. You were most helpful.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: utilizing the latest borland C++ compiler, how does one go about changing one's manor pie shop array?
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Better to use C IMHO.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wow, someone hooked up a 1986 Mac to the Internet.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: bet that runs painfully slow
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: erm...the internet was around in the 80s
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: true but not many people had/used it
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nah, Al Gore invented the internet in 1993.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I invented the internet in 2004
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I fapped on the internet in 2004
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A macabre Sonet buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I shared pictures with abe on a BBS
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glacto Tech: is there a reason my s&d mapper isn't saving some areas? I've been to certain areas over past few days and they haven't saved
T3/r7/2015-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glacto Tech: but others do
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energized AtomicAurora Tech: angain, does anynybody know how to enable hybrid mode (scrolling and typing at thesame time) on the bbssh client
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I am currently on phone and my Mushclient cannot seem to work as soon as I open it a message appears saying Mushclient isn't working and it makes me close the program
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: try something else? :P
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I can't
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Can't enter at all
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: have you tried turning your phone off then back on again?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I triex everything
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: I think the problem is with MushClient, not the phone?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: MushClient on a PC, that is.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Is there any way I can save my mapper info if I am forced to reinstall?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: sure
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: There is?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: yep
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Do you know?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: back up aardwolf.db, copy it over the one that comes with your new install
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: aardwolf.db there are 6 files
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Or do I only copy the new ones?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: there's only one aardwolf.db, the others are backups
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Do I copy them all
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Or just the main one?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: either will work
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I will copy em all lol
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Thanks Lachdanan i will no longer kill you if you lick me
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: heh, i've licked you a lot less as of late
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: IT WORKS!!!
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I dunno if my mapper info is save though
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: OK it isn't
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: It seems I will need to add it another way lol
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girlyman Tech: i'm using the mushclient to connect. how do i get rid of this damn wolf wallpaper that's visable through this transparent mud window?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, come with attitude like that, I'm not inclined to help you. :P
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Personally, it doesn't bother me. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girlyman Tech: i'm no a game where we constantly kill things... i said damn... makes me a bad bad person. that wasn't an attitude, it was annoyance 
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: it's a joke, but I can't remember how to get rid of that wallpaper myself either
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have to change the background image file. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: There are two files under the plugins/images folder called aardbg#.png. Delete them.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or that.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Harder to pass off the client as my telnet window when there is a big wolf in the background :P
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I can barely see it myself. *shrug*
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girlyman Tech: it's jus tnoticable enough that i keep looking at it lol
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Also true. I didn't notice it for a couple of weeks, lol.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girlyman Tech: ok got rid of the wolf background. thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girlyman Tech: next question... if i start playing here and like the MUD, how can i re-clam my original guy i made years ago...he's only lvl 1 no idea what pwd is but it's a name i prefer to use
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: now it's all I can see, thanks jerk
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nokfah snickers with Ralyn about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can ask for the name to be released.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's the name?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girlyman Tech: Grifter
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: 9 years ago, impressive
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girlyman Tech: god only knows what pwd i used 9 years ago
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, write a note to the Imms asking for the name to be released to you.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girlyman Tech: who do i do that?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girlyman Tech: how
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Essentially, you'll lose anything on that character...
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: board personal
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: help note writing
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But since you don't have an email set on there, there's nothing you can really do to get that particular character back. You'll just wind up renaming this one.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or, once released, you can create it.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: I have my own question... how do I bring up the miniwin eq window
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Girlyman Tech: ok thanks i'll keep that in mind. i'll check  out the mud with this char and if decide to stick around ask for the name back
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Assuming you have the minwin_eq plugin installed. the command 'eqdb refresh' usually brings it up
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i reinstalled the plugin, eqdb refresh, nothing
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: anyone know how to make a persistant miniwin?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: or know where on the Mush site the info is to do so?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you read the AardMUSH wiki, it gives you a link to the MUSH miniwin tutorial.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I found a tutorial from bast
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Thank you though
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: aardmush mapper question, the speedwalk function requires room numbers? How to write it to take area names?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: If you mean adding a command to the mapper, you can just call the find function, check if the number of results is 1, call find_paths on that, build_speedwalk, then start_speedwalk
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: That has a pretty reasonable chance of walking you to a room you don't necessarily want, though - you can just "mapper find name" then "mapper goto id"
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: it requires room numbers, just wondering if there was a shortcut to having to create a bunch of alias' to run to the area name rather than roomname
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood your original question, I just looked through mapper help and I couldn't find anything
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I guess, in short, with the mapper, if we want to get somewhere, is there a way to use the area name rather than a room id.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: snd does that
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkian Tech: help meh pls
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkian Tech: who
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowSkil Pretz Tech: what?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkian Tech: how to change my bksp key
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Can't help if we don't know the issue.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qadosh Tech: I'm not sure about mac telent, theme might be something in the options but it's probably pretty barebones
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Change your backspace key?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkian Tech: so i cant change the bksp char
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkian Tech: like some server taks the command bksp
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkian Tech: it s kinda snnying
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qadosh Tech: he's using a mac telnet client and it's sending the wrong code instead of ^H
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: no clue.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkian Tech: can i just hold control and press h
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Use a different client?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qadosh Tech: are there options to change the encoding?
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkian Tech: ill figure it out l8r
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qadosh Tech: this mud takes utf-8 and/or ansi
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qadosh Tech: and there are mac mud clients, mactin++ should work fine
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: MUSH works just fine on Mac.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: anyone familiar with blowtorch app? have a simple problem
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: easier to just ask your question :)
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: k sorry
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo tsks Velian.  You feel sorry for him.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: i was in description mode earlier and got stuck.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian pounces on Tricksy Bamboo, pinning him to the ground.
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: when i type .a it says nothing was sent to the server. no known alias with that name
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: same with .q
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the decimal denotes creating an alias
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: as well as other commands, checking if there is a way to escape that function
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: thanks I appreciate the help
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: iirc there is something u can toggle on/off that solves the problem
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: yah just use a double dot
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: so ..a or ..q
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: okay will give it a shot l
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: much appreciated. thanks again!
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: welcome
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: worme
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: worked like a charm
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: and as yoshi said, if you do '..' with nothing else it disables special commands
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: so you can turn it on off using just '..'
T3/r7/2015-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ubrik Tech: much much better
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is there a php equivelent of java's Integer.numberOfLeadingZeros()?
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldevar Tech: Hey everyone. I'm very new to Aardwolf. I'm just curious if any of you have recommendations for good plugins that would benefit a new player. Otherwise, should I just stick with the ones that come with the MUSH Aard package?
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: bast's plugins are nice
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: i mean I use a few. I wouldnt recommend enabling them all at once lol
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldevar Tech: Okay, thanks Defines. I've looked at Bast's plugins but there were so many that it was kind of overwhelming for me. Are there any specific ones that you really love?
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: spellup script is nice, and hunt trick. and room notes.
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldevar Tech: Awesome! I really appreciate it. :)
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: I guess a lot of people use winklewinkles search and destroy. i don't personally but maybe it'll work for you
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: hunttrick is enough for me. or just old fashioned hunting/exploring
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldevar Tech: Okay, I've kind of looked into it and it seems to really take away from exploration. Maybe I'm wrong though.
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: yeah i think it does.
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldevar Tech: I could see how it could give you an edge in GQuests. Do you think it is necessary to have something like that in order to be successful there?
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: Not at all
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldevar Tech: Okay, good to know. :)
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: Its actually better if you dont have it, as you'll learn the areas better and will have better knowledge when S&D doesn't work.. ie nowhere mobs.
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: nohunt, actually :)
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldevar Tech: Good, because the mini window that you can't even resize was really bothering me.
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Any linux people around? Trying to get my drive to automount on my RPi, doesn't seem to want to mount on startup, though sudo mount -a works fine.
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: is there a way in the aard mush client to output the mapper portal stuff to edit and reinsert?
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I mean re-import
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's kept in the database file
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ah, so some sqlite3 magic then ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: usb flash Navi?
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: its 2 for one...
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: mis
T3/r7/2015-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tea, for two, and two, for tea...
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: what will happen is that now they will  put bathrooms in the cabins :)
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: mis
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boomie Tech: how to move mush windows you lost sight of?
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: try resetaard
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boomie Tech: hmm window border still too far to drag
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: is it s&d window?  
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boomie Tech: yea
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: that one..  what nuanse said.
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boomie Tech: thank god
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You can just call him Nuanse
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: in future, ww help prints s&d help
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boomie Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: how to send a command to the mapper via the muschclient? If I do it as an alias it sends it to the mud and the mapper doesn't pick it up.
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ok thanks.
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: how do I send a command to the mushclient mapper?
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qadosh Tech: prefix with 'mapper'
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: just type it in, or by a client alias, send to execute
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: needs to be via an alias....
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: a glass of water
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: raded what is the syntax for send to execute? I.e I tried execute ("mapper goto 1111") but it only sent it to the mud and not the mapper.
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there's a dropdown menu
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Send To: default is World, change to Execute
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ahh ok thanks!
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's just below the box where you'd type the commands
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: vanilla
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: strawberry
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: That's a fragrance on an ecigg.
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: hmm, WW mapper_extender_2 when I do 'cp check' it sends that plus a 'cp c'
T3/r7/2015-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: seems it should be suppressing the cp check so it can enable triggers then send 'cp c'
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sequana Tech: Hi I am using MUSHclient how do I make the font larger?
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: alt+5
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sequana Tech: Ah Thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: somewhere in the middle it says Font
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sequana Tech: Got it Thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gizmofey Tech: I have some interface questions: Can I make the font smaller so more fits in the window? And is there a way to make the text go all the way to the edge of the window? (Seems like it auto-carriages at a certain point, and I like a wide window to possibly hold more text.) Using client downloaded from Aardwolf website.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: first answer: alt+5, alt+f
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: second: from memory, it wraps at the time it's printed when there's not enough space. once you've got room for more text, any new messages will go full width
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gizmofey Tech: okie dokie. I see stuff said on the communication channels do that. But stuff like room descriptions and helpfiles all seem to auto-return after a certain point, which is only like halfway across my window. Seems the space could be used more efficiently.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: that's just because of the formatting of things :)
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: help files and notes have a certain length to them
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: but lines like this can go all the way to the edge of your screen tech but lines like this can go all the way to the edge of your screen tech but lines like this can go all the way to the edge of your screen tech but lines like this can go all the way to the edge of your screen tech but lines like this can go all the way to the edge of your screen 
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: see the difference?
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gizmofey Tech: Alright. Guess I'll deal. :-) Thanks for your help.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lackluster Lachdanan Tech: I usually try to make the vertical height as large as possible instead of maximising horizontal. once you can fit your combat spam on one line, that's wide enough :D
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: you'll get used to it and, after a while, the width of things will help you identify channels vs. rooms etc
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: (width and color anyway)
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gizmofey Tech: I wish I could have a secondary window/column where stuff wrapped from the bottom of column one to the top of column two. :-P
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: anyone know a good freeware that can load virtual drives (ISOs)? I used to use Alcohol 100 but trial ended
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: is there any way to auto save after a certain amount of time? I keep forgetting to save my work when I do triggers and scripts so I lose it when I log back in
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'd think there would be some sort of "autosave" option.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I can't tell if that is sarcasm.. is there an autosave option?
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was being serious. If there is one, I can't find it.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yeah, I really wish there was also, I just lost a few days worth of work :(
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8729 -- might be what we're looking for.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Nice find!
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Arcidayne, were you the one who said you backup your tables to text files?
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I just lost my QP per mort counter due to a non-save, I was wondering how hard it would be to just backup a variable
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It would be me, yes.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that's quite good idea to have additional backup to text files, you can check integrity of DB that way
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You probably could just write it to a text file.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: do you have a resource I could look over about that? I never really tried that
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The tables are a bit more advanced. Thankfully, someone had written code for table.save and table.load.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://www.tutorialspoint.com/lua/lua_file_io.htm would be a good start.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ah, its a lua thing. I was searching the forum for Mush for that info
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Hey, I was only taught Java in college, I am trying to learn other things though
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There, now I've added the autosave capability so I don't have to worry about losing counters. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I learned Pascal in college :P
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh. :p
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I learned Basic in college.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: This is true, but its always good to have a backup
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am a thirty year old going back to college... a community college
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: PASCAL OR BUST
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: good for you :)
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: good thing the girls stay the same age
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am married with children..
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They're getting younger now. :(
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: eye candya
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: LISP OR...
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I repeat my previous statement
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I REALLY want to learn LISP
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: replcae all s's with th's
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: LISP OR BUTHT?
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: it'th really eathy
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I thould write a thript to replathe that thound with th.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I once wrote a script to convert English to Al-Bhed, and Al-Bhed to English. Really helped in Final Fantasy games.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I also started writing a script for RSA encryption so people could chat secretly... but the numbers got far too big for Lua to handle.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne really does get bored.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use strings to store numbers :P
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not a problem, except when those numbers reach 128-bits. :P
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: thats a high number lol
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yay, that was a lot easier than I expected it to be. I got my backup going and have logic to take care of any more bumps in the road on losing values 
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: I can't seem to find the option to determine how often I want to backup Mushclient.  Does anyone know?
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i just take autobackup each night and keep backups for one week in dropbox. and mush is not the only thing i am backing up
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so auto = automated
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trepid nods.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: okie danx
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If you're talking about the aardmush mapper database, I don't think there's a command to change it, but you can change the timer length in the plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgn Tech: Just got mush, can I make chat appeat only in communication log?
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgn Tech: appear*
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: right click the commlog
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: look for something like Echo channels
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgn Tech: Thanks, got it.
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: is there any way to shut off spellup echos?
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: its called Echo Channels in Main Window
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Sonet try spellup silen
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: help spamreduce
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Sonet try spellup silent
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: that seems to just not list the spell queue
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I may have understood incorrectly but I thought that was his question
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: maybe, dunno - seems theres no way to stop seeing spellup echos
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but spamreduce may well have been what he was looking for
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: meh that just stops showing the 'chanting words'
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I mean the lines like "your eyes glow red" from casting spells
T3/r7/2015-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: doesnt seem to be
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: anyone here use Synergy-project software to share their mouse between screens on different computers?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: and thanks i actually googled a few solutions that seem free
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: so appreciate the help!
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: ok what are ur system specs?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: i just turned on the tech channel.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: heh
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: was saying i found two free solutions after googleing free virtual KVM
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: thanks for your help!
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: no problem. i think octo may be one. i used to quad box 4 pcs playing everquest.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: im a certified network security analyst lol.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: well i'm glad your on at the same time that I asked the question :)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: in otherwords a legal hacker.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: be careful with some of those software solutions though. they lag bad.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: my personal choice now that ive exceeded reasonable pc specs is utilizing vmware.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: i'm gonna try mouse without borders (microsoft product) any recommends on that?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: and what vmware do you use?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: sec writing teiggers.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: triggers.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: ok.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: I used to use input director for sharing mouse/keyboard
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: oo that was option #2
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: was it super laggy?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: no it was fine, only stopped because i got a mac laptop and it didn't have a client
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: theres a website called technologic101.wordpress.com its a site about running osx in a virtual machine. if you poke through the files on there im sure you can find a vmware bundle.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: synergy is cross-platform
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: but costs money
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: thanks toxic i'll try out a few of these
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, just looked further back in history and see that you mentioned synergy early on...had just glanced at aard to see tech stuff a min ago
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: what i would do if you have multiple cores and a decent amount of ram. is make a couple machines and run them 800x600
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: your help is always appreciated abe :) your a fountain of wisdom!
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: synergy is great
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mahasamatman nods at ToxicShadow.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: don't have the ram for it unfortunately
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, stupid linux had to snag the KVM acronym away from what was a well-known and hugely used thing in the tech world...making many searches crap
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mahasamatman agrees!
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: those of us in the industry use the mfg names anyways tho.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, those of us in the industry do no such thing
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't use the mfg name when you're looking for another solution, as that would be rather clairvoyant
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: aye, i ment in terms of newer models. my belkins have been pretty bulletproof.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothings Defines Tech: i prefer duck eggs
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: professionally I'd rarely look beyond raritan for KVM
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: they make a decent IP KVM
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: each person has their own switches and why they prefer them. i think as long as professionals can discuss their equipment the fact they took the acronym is more or less irrelevant.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not irrelevant when it greatly inhibits the ability to search effectively
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: i guess. i was reading how google intentionally trained people for years to click the first couple results as they are the most relevant and kept generating accurate 1-4 results. then when they launched ad sense they made the ad related results the top couple.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: anyways glad to contribute my 2 copper. lol
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm. Drawing a miniwindow, I've added the add_drag_handler... and the mouse changes like I can drag it, but... I can't drag it. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Even has the mouseover that says, "Drag to move window"
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: WindowCreate (win, 0, 0, window_width, window_height, 8, 0, background_colour) <-- that's what I have for WindowCreate, and movewindow.add_drag_handler (win, 0, top, right, botom, 1) for the drag.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mind you, the misspelling of botom is now fixed...
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Hmm, I have been using the WindowDragHandler function. http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=WindowDragHandler
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, may have to give that a try.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nope. Still seems quite rooted in its position.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: And you are just using WindowPosition() in the move callback function?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I pretty much copied what was on that page, adjusting of course for my own script.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, I'm going to give up for the night and attempt it tomorrow.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: good luck :)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Does anyone know how an alias or trigger is actually evaluated? I mean in the back end, for a trigger does it compare every last line to all of your triggers? Does the client compare all lines of input to all of your aliases?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: there is an option whether it stops at the first match or it keeps going
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: an option you can set on each trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: That is not what I am asking
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am asking about how it gets the first match
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: yes, thats pretty much how it has to happen.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: typically each line of output from the mud is captured and then compared to each trigger
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not sure how the client does multiline
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: that just seems really inefficient
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: do you have a better algorithm?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: no, but it does make me think that there could be one
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Also, with things like aliases in bash and ksh you would think that many other people had that thought and there would be a better one by now
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you can take some short cuts, like take a big chunk of output from the mud and then compare the chunk with each trigger, but you can get triggers firing in the wrong order
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how else would triggers work?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: text comparison isn't that difficult with modern cpus anyway
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: process a line at a time instead of a large chunk
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea  i assumed each line was checked as it came in
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: If each line is checked as it comes in, and your running several plugins and have 50 or so triggers, it just seems like that would slow it down 
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I realize that on modern cpus that is not really an issue, but it feels like there should be a better way
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not sure why you think there should be a better way
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: hey guys.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: anyone need help with anything?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, i need someone to do my dishes!
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: you know I've got the perfect solution for that.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no you do not unless you have a plainticket to estonia
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: run some water soak them in dawn for like 4 hours starting at hot water come back when nice and water logged and wash the Schmutz off with the sprayer. 5 min tops.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is still me doing the dishes
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sonet: I write triggers and scripts with efficiency in mind...as you said, modern CPUs make it not as important, but not that long ago I was still running my client on a 166MHz Alphastation...
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: Jesus an alpha station.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that being said, here's the way it chooses which to test
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i run old computer as well. dell e5420
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: heh I feel ur pain zmud on a as/400 server.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: 80mhz
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are two factors in evaluation order...the "keep evaluating" checkbox, and the sequence number
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it runs through the lowest sequence numbers first
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the first one to match is the first winner...if keep evaluating is not checked, then it's done
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if keep evaluating is checked, then it runs through the next lowest sequence numbers...lather, rinse, repeat
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "front" anchor on triggers is really good for making the checks themselves efficient...if a pattern can be front-anchored, it should be (for both efficiency and for trick-proofing, since the pattern on a channel would trip it without that)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because if a trigger is "^This text.*"...if a line from the MUD is "The biggest", it only has to check the first 3 characters
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the pattern (as a regex) were "this text", then it would need to evaluate the line by basically sliding "the biggest" along the line
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err, by sliding "this text" along the line, looking for it to line up
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: jedhi: your dell e5420 is twice as fast as my computer, and im happy with my e7200
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now I run my client on a virtual colo machine :-)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is colo like yolo?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my house was always the weak point for my logs when it was on the alpha
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: colo is when you ship a server to a datacenter for them to put it into the rack (or you can arrange to bring it there yourself), or when you just buy the hardware straight from them to run
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you own the server, they own the space and the connections that you rent
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as opposed to hosted or virtual colo which is things like AWS
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hosted is where you only run the app, but they run the OS and everything, whereas in a virtual colo, you own the virtual machine instance from OS up
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (I figure it was a rhetorical question, but I like to hear myself talk, like to teach, and it can be good info for some others reading ;-)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Thank you Abelinc, that makes much more sense as to why it is that way
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It seems horribly inefficient until you put it into regex terms
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and the fourth public datacenter option is rented servers, where you still get control from the OS up, but you neither own the hardware nor is it a VM (this is the option which Aard itself uses)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: anyone watching this?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orsiphantes Tech: We all took a nap, bro.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: here's my scenario. im playing on iPad. between autocorrect and no physical keyboard it's getting complicated the longer my skill/spell list gets for atking.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: alias your attack spells
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be able to turn autocorrect off for the app you're using
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd normally still not have the aliases be words
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my preferred iDevice app is iSSH, but that's because of its value add to me for non-mudding and the fact that I use a MUD client that I can ssh in to access
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: it is possible, but I have yet to find the config to kill it. I do have alias options but no f keys to bind them to.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias is usually referring to typing some characters and then hitting enter...fkeys would normally be called macros
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (although my client uses the terms differently)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what app are you using to access Aard?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: I had asked if there was an intelligent queuing system like spellup but for atks. it would make my life hella easy on the iPad.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would make you dead on the ipad :P
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is there a way to set up a client side mask on tinyfugue if i want to make all instances of vampiredude appear as vampiredew ?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spellup isn't so much intelligent as "look at every one you can cast and try them all"...
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, VD, you can do text replacements on tf
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: what helpfile is most apropos for that?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /help def
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: def ok thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and /help echo
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well sure it's a long helpfile.../def is what controls probably 80% of tinyfugue stuff
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: i think i just figured it out. turns out mudrammer has 2 radial control areas.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: that can be swiped n,ne,e,se,s,sw,w,nw on both sides of my screen. theyre programmed by default right stick for movement and left side for misc.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: i just found the menu to change the values of the gestures.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, doing buttons rather than typing for attacks will save a lot on mobile devices
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyone know of a decent plugin to manage portals?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's eqdb and the mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The Aard MUSH client comes with a plugin to manage portals.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the mapper manages them reasonably well
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sure, once I set them, but realize I didn't set how I wanted, and forgot to reset at 201
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You shouldn't have to reset at one, it figures out your tiers and level automatically.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so would have to probably use sqlite to get what I have for each mapper portal put into file to edit and reload or some such with fullportal
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: hope I am explaining what I'm looking for well enough
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you just said "manages" so far
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and reset...which shouldn't need to be done
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: what I want to do is change them to use aliases instead of the manual way I set them in the first place
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so do that?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so that I can set to a variable for dual wield etc, and maybe to automatically look at stuff I loot and know it's a portal, and put in portalbag I set variable for
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: okay, thanks Magma, I'll do manually I guess
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you look at the mapper's wiki helpfile, there's a "more tips" link...that page has a nice rundown of a way to think about doing portals
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of the things there is using an alias for your offhand
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, read that, then realized I f'd up, so was hoping to geta list of all the commands I'd set the the mapper portal to, put in a text file, vi it and change them all the way I want
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper portals should give you the list
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: it does, very short, does not have full line
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nm, I'm obviously too stupid to explain, carry on
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for my client's setup, I take it a bit further and abstract the portal process...my do_portal_engine alias takes 2 arguments, the portal and the container...
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, basically you're not looking for something to manage portals
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're looking for something which will import/export mapper portal settings
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: if I can't find one that manages them, I was hoping to at least do that
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so again, if there isn't one, nm
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper manages them, and bast's eqdb helps to manage where they are
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody would ever make something other than the mapper to manage them because of how WELL the mapper manages them
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks magma
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you just abstract how you put them into the mapper (like I just described mine), then you're only ever touching one place regardless of your other changes
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so for me to go to darklight, I have /do_portal_engine star $[portal_bag_name]
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (it's not MUSH, but the logic works fine in either)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with bast's eqdb, you can have yours just take the keyword or itemID of the portal itself and don't bother with the bag, because bast's eqdb will get it from the right place and put it back
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any further changes to how you want to do portals (single-vs-dual wield, portal wish, etc.) would be done in the do_portal_engine alias
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, I used that prior, then started using something else to help automatically switch gear, something Abelinc wrote
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the mapper system would continue to work flawlessly
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I'm Abelinc ;-)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sorry abe, didn't know that was you, I use the one you utilize compare all and compare item to trigger gear changes
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I didn't write anything for switching gear, so was probably a bast one maybe?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: just frustrated, I can code some in python etc, just not sure how to make it work with the api here
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so should just spend a day or two learning how
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sorry, it was madcatz autowear_eq
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: works nearly flawlessly, just had to add second to it
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: replaced eqdb with that, as it helped sort my eqlists automatically
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: just compare all <my level> wear
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to get it 97% there in minutes (and without using Bast's eqdb), make an alias "use_portal * *"...action being get %1 %2, wear %1, enter, myhold, put %1 %2", with the commas being on different lines, and send to execute
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make an alias myhold which is either dual @dualweapon or hold @holditem
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with appropriate variables
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: appropriate as in SFW?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then in the mapper, your portals will just be use_portal <ID of portal> <ID of container>
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: saw something in the guide about that, then got confused when trying to put aliases in as c <spellnum>
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno, my variable is PleiadesMom
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: in game I do alias <alias> c <spellnum> and it will accept with target or without
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: that should be ok
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but need to do %1 or some regex which does 0 or more args?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so have really been searching through forums so as not to annoy folks in this channel
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, standard aliases and triggers in MUSHclient are "glob", which is fully-anchored by default
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so "alias" would not match typing "alias foo"
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when using globs, %1, %2, etc. in the Send part reference the first and subseqient * wildcards
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I use the #alias one for simple things without need of target, then get into alias in settings to add follow variable 
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you use regular expressions rather than globs (you check "regular expression"), then %1, %2, etc. references parenthesis sets, NOT wildcards
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but if you type c <spellnum> target to start a fight, I typically just c <spellnum> for rest of it
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for attack spells, I like the in-game aliases simply because they are that easily flexible for optional targets :-)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yes, that's what I've done, but saw somewhere I think you helped someone setting %1 to be 0 or more or some such
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: like what * means in a unix regex
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you can either use two regular aliases, one for the no-arg case and one for the arg case, or use a regex with optionals
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, that's what I need to study
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyways, thanks, and I'll go back to reading
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: was checking if anyone knew of a way to do what I was trying to do
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but for the portals, you can have it fully working by using exactly what I put here
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, will give that a go
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: since I'm below some of them, will ned fullportal to do no?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: meant to reset what I had for each portal
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: mapper portal expects me to be where I am setting portal to go
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: mapper fullportal I can put the area number
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, yeah, you can actually create the mapper fullportal command in notepad and paste them all into your mapper in one go
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, that's waht I meant
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the room number, yeah
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: prefer using vim, but not fully used to windows yet, and linux networking kinda of stinks on this laptop
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so paste your list from mapper portals for reference, massage the commands to re-enter them, then mapper purge portals before pasting the new ones
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I miss using cli mud client
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, <favorite editor here> for notepad ;-)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, tf still works wonderfully for me ;-)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sure, just not sure how to do global sub in notepad, pretty sure not easily done
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: trying to figure it out in sublime2
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of options, lots of notepad++ fans
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my favorite on Windows is EditPadPro, but not free
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: notepad++ is a lot better than notepad for sure
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sublime text rules them all
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that wrote editpadpro is the guy who runs the http://www.regular-expressions.info/ site and wrote the regex cookbook
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I like it,just want to be able to do :g :% etc like in vi ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can run vi on windows if you want
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I know, just need to take time to read up on it
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: I have bene using Vim for two years now. Mainly because i cannot figure out how to exit it!
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read up on it? http://www.vim.org/download.php
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth tries to start up emacs and fails miserably.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: to do it right I meant it's fine
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth reminds himself to ignore Lao and use vi instead of emacs.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm a crappy geek...I actually love pico
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: been using vi since 1995, so habit
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: hate pico, but mostly due to what it does to system files
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but when vim puts out an installer, what's there to read up on before using it?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: and not a big WU fan
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I haven't used anything except pico since college.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: just looking to see what all the kids love about Sublime etc
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use pico on system files all the time
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: on linux at least....what does pico do on system files?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: and substitute the ^M stuf
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: or have the fixed htat
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've never had an issue with it
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: although there is dos2unix now to fix that if folks don't know sed
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's like any text editor, it would need to know what line endings you want
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: may be fixed *shrug*
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ones designed for Unix typically did not put dos line endings
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only thing that ever annoyed me was its autowrapping, but I found the switch and aliased that to default
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: cool
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: whatever folks' cup of tea is 
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I can understand why folks hate vi, but having to do domain registration back in 1995 before gui's, doing thousands of e-mails in a short time so much easier in elm using vi
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll use editpadpro or vi on larger stuff like my logfiles
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: cool
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since pico tries to load the file first
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, I used to have to edit multi million line files, so after that, really lazing repeating commands
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sed and awk are fun too
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but trying to learn python more to do bigger things
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I Use ruby in hadoop stuff, since easier with tools
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: not great at any obviously though
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'm fixing up some python/django stuff at work...they have an app which is running ancient versions, so spun up an aws instance of 14.04lts to get going with current stuff
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of syntax changes in django 1.7 that I'm playing whack-a-mole with
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: awesome, been thinking of django, rails is kind of a pain
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (I know nothing about any of that stuff, so it's really just restart apache, go to the page, read the error log, search the error, change the errored file :P)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: going from ruby 2 to ruby 3 is pretty much change ever line(or close to it)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but have to do that to get to 4
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: lol yup
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: tedium
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: zmud is windows as well right?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoraxis Tech: yep
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thought so, can't find a decent non-gui with a mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but with it being payware, unsupported and deprecated, and with the obscene amount of work and support with MUSHclient currently, I wouldn't recommend that anyone use it who doesn't already have a tricked-out setup that they know like the back of their hand
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: love the mapper, just hate guis
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: true
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: and not wanting to pay again
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: paid for it before when I used to play on here
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it appears that he's pretty much abandoned even cmud these days
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: used tt++ and tf for the most part
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but alas, lots of work to do proper mapper in that, and really don't want to go back to graph paper
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheezburger and ixle have put together a pretty good tt++ package
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I've looked at the dbs in sqlite3, but was too lazy to get right select statements
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I implemented a mapper in my tinyfugue, works nicely for me, but it'll probably be quite a while before I'd be ready to release it publicly
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: woot
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I saw one article with suggestions if one wanted to create their own mapper, if I was at T2, would probably start writing ;) Just want aardgear at start
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: then see shinies
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: unix mud I can sneak at work easier ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it evolved over time, if you look at my telopt.tf file you can see where I started writing the database stuff
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice, will take a look
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did some normalization of the database later (every room had n/s/e/w/u/d exit columns, etc.) and moved that function out of that file, but I leave the original one in there so people can at least see what could be done
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then used a googled dijkstra stored procedure
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's stupidly-inefficient world-wide, but area-wide is good
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, love mapper plugin, just really wish would work in regular terminal instead of all these windows etc
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: windows get spinny wheel when backing up sometimes
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use the plugin without the mapper window showing
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and can use a proxy to connect to it from a command-line client
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: oh, I only have normal mapper window now, referring to the regular separate windows
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: want to use in an ssh terminal/Xterm etc
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you can do that with a proxy
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: like with tf
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: alrighty, will look up proxy
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: not talking like socks5 proxy right?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: those are easy
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this would be like the old mccp proxy
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: k
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duckbat has made two...the first was nice and lightweight, the second one kind of took off into being most of a client on its own
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but would I still have mapper stuff etc?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, with a little setup
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you run it somewhere, then tell MUSHclient to connect to the proxy rather than the MUD...then the proxy in turn connects to the MUD...then you can connect other clients to the proxy as well...it'd be like a shared gnu screen session
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the proxy has a settable prefix to know what to echo only to the other proxied connections rather than to the MUD
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you have a trigger in MUSHclient to look for that prefix and execute it
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so mushclient would have to run from a machine left running
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, yeah
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you'd type, say, "proxy mapper goto 12345", it won't send that to the MUD, but MUSHclient would see it and go to along river angor on mesolar
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: and another sessiont talks to proxy and muschlient triggers
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, you could run the proxy on the mushclient box or elsewhere
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: will try to play with that
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here was duckbat's second proxy, but it's a lot "more"...the first one was a GMCP proxy with the functionality I just described...this one actually has its own mapper and mob database
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/proxymud
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll have to look up where his first one was hosted
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: https://code.google.com/p/proxymud/downloads/list
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: oops, that is 2nd
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: 2012
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I'll back up dbs etc first heh
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: re-running everywhere will make me sad
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, this doesn't touch your MUSHclient
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a MUD server as far as MUSH is concerned
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ah, figured it telling mushclient something wrong may corrupt something
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: k
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never hurts to back up, of course, although you have the backups folder already
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks much Abe, sorry for silly questions, I don't retain technical terms for programming, I just tend to hack at it
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: true
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: bash/ksh I can write cool things with, but still haven't had to do that since moving to managment a few years back
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: is there a plugin for global quests ?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: probably not a legal one =P
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: that explains the ca. 2 minute GQ finishes
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: once someone has explored everywhere, it's pretty fast I'm sure
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: you mean with the mapper ?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: or just learning the areas
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: mapper, or eidetic memory
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: doesn't take an eidetic memory, just practice
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't need to be anywhere near eidetic (which nobody in history has been shown to possess)...
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: hehe some are close
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of us could picture the maps of most areas in our heads 10 years ago
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I can picture some
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: xyl's mosaic, no way
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as a "people", with technology, we're really conditioning ourselves to not remember anywhere near as much as we used to
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: true
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: xyl's isn't that bad
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used to have like a hundred people's phone numbers memorized...with cell phones, I'm lucky to remember 5
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it has a very well-defined structure
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: i am getting semi-used to it
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (of course I'm older now as well ;-)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: hmm..but then that makes the Global Quest sytem very unfriendly towards new comers. Right now the GQ is an mid/end-game feature. 
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not a mid-endgame feature, but it IS a contest testing your knowledge...
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: in my 20s, in the AF, we had 20 field replacable units, I knew every part number 
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: no idea how, just did
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone who tries to learn can become competitive in very short time
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: now, functional idiot
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: heh
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: fine I can live w/o winning the GQ but I should have at least 15 minutes to finish it regardless how fast the winner completes it
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: in time your times will improve
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why do you think that you're entitled to finish it without taking basic measures to prepare?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: entitlement generation?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should absolutely finish every GQ in your range, regardless of the timer on the GQ
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after the timer expires, keep going. Kill every target. That's how you get better.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: treat every campaign as a GQ...race through it
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gather keys for areas in your range ahead of time
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get as many portals as you can, and teach your client how to use them
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, been meaning to track keys somewhere
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: so much nicer with the 3 minutes extra, compared to when Jhav was winning in a tick :P
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure that you have weapons with different damtypes in a bag, and an alias to switch them out
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, waiting on donations to buy more hehe
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gameload weapons are fine for immunes
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: probably true
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: barely have enought item capacity for regular gear atm
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: at mort time
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: would be nice to have a locker wish, to put bags for ranges in ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you're not usually limited by killspeed at lowbie GQs
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: true
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: haven't done gq in forever
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: i <3 mapper portal functionality
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: well, I <3 that you <3 it!
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: anyone know what table Portals are saved to?  They should be in Aardwolf.db right?
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd imagine so.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: ooh, seems to be 'storage' from the plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: hmm that table is empty though
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: meh i only have 3 so far I'll just redo them
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So, can anyone tell me why I can't seem to make a miniwindow draggable? I've added the movewindow.add_drag_handler, and the cursor changes to a hand like it's going to drag it, but clicking and dragging does nothing.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right. Off to the forums I go, then.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also....
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2015-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have had no luck with that either by the way
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at -h...I strongly suggest basically using the entire skeleton code from Fiendish's plugins to make your miniwins...you can take a look at my rdesc plugin to see what to grab, which would be pretty much everything in the script part except for function rdesc_redirect which would be your own "capture" function. Every other function should exist in yours to give a full-featured minniwin
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: any ideas why mushclient is being very very laggy for me?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: memory usage?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fireflies Tech: idk its been doing that for me too...
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: you have set slow proxy for it?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: no proxys
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: memory usage at 18% and no spikes
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: it hasn't done this to me so far but today it has been really sluggish
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Try restarting your computer, or even MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: did that
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It could be something on your computer that's causing the problem, not MUSH.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fireflies is googling random things.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: do you have any plugins installed beyond the normal set provided by Aard?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: search and destroy
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: could try disabling it...?  just a thought; I don't have any idea how much overhead it adds
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: that is, if you really suspect mushclient
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: I generally wouldn't, but plugins on any program are always something that can make things work in unexpected ways
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It doesn't add overhead for me. :P
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: What is the problem?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: if they're badly written ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: If you have problems with the plugins go into the file tab inside Mush and check if you have all 3 files in
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: @Irya: Qbano is having some sort of slowness, but it's unknown beyond that
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Winkle files
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: all 3 present
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Slowness
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: I think most of us doubt that it's MUSH, but just putting possibilities ont he table
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Well then it must be your wifi
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: IF Aard in general is slow then it is your wifi
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Or internet
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: If it's a plugin then it is a bad day for it lol
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: how to test my wifi's stability+
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: IS your aard slow or fast?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: run some ping tests to the mud
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Yeah do you have to wait till a command is given?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Like a couple of seconds to go east?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: yes I have to wait
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: It is your ping
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Your wifi is having a bad day
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: thats the sluggish lag im talking about :p
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Well that is it!
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: It's your ping
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: hold on a sec - can Qbano actually please run "ping aardmud.org" first before we assume?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Either that, or the trace route to the MUD is experiencing some hiccups.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: it sounds like it, but let's not jump the gun w/o harder evidence
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Ta'veren Vultaire.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Oh please if he has lag we know that is the problem
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: could be router or network card needs reset, or maybe your ISP i having issues, try to ping aardwolf.org and see what results are
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Fine go to ping and check it out mate
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh please, you don't know what you're talking about if you automatically assume it's the router.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: It is
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I have days like these Arcidayne
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: like my last sentence...
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Go to the website and check for yourself
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: And tell us the results
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I bet it is his internet going haywire
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So, Irya? What if he's in New York, and the hop in Kentucky is having issues? That's not his router - that's in Kentucky.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: wow. that spike was long. 
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Well maybe there is a storm outside?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: so my 3 options were summarized as 1 wrong one?  puhlease
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I say he has internet wifi problem
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I say he has internet wifi problems
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: yeah, ping your router, ping aardwolf, run a traceroute
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: how do you know he is on wifi?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: wifi is yet another assumption
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: pinging aardmud.org gave 25% packet loss lol
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: lol
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: how about your router?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: ok but it could still be anywhere in between
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: He has a bad day
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: okay - now we have at least some degree of evidence of an issue
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Qbano, ping google.com
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: tracert aardwolf.org
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: We are all going crazy over this...It is his internet people
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: His goddamn internet
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: that'll give your ping to router and all bounces
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: shhh
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: We are fighting over something that is confirmed
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: 0% loss. avg: 46ms
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh shut up, Irya. It's a given it's internet related, but the issue may NOT be with his router.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: aha ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nothing is confirmed yet
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: So?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: feel free to turn off tech, irya, since you draw conclusions without testing
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: see 0 loss. Not his side
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: His internet is a problem... Having a bad day
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: your brain is taking an off day
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Apparently NOT his internet. :)
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: No irya. he can ping google perfectlu
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: pinged aardmud.org again - 50% loss
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Then what is it?!
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it is not his internet
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: tracert aardwolf.org - goddamit
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Qbano: type tracert aardmud.org -> see where it hiccups.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Before it was now it isn't!
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: +1 daddius, minus the goddamit ;)
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but some part of the internet between him and aard
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what it is that's what we are here trying to finds out
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your ignorance is amusing, Irya.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: pending info about tracert to aardmud.org, i'd be willing to wager it is a bad bounce closer to the server
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: try a tracert to aardmud.org
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: This might be overwhelming for him
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Irya growls at Arcidayne.  Better leave the room before the fighting starts.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: so...what am I looking at?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Look for something that takes a while to pull.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: timeout or high ping between bounces
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: You are looking at our own failute
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I bet your mom says that to your dad every day when they look at you, Irya.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: tracert shows the ping information at each "bounce" of your data path from your computer to the mud
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: you should have good #'s and no missed hops between
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Really?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: No personal attacks, please!
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: then ping the ones which are high or fail
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, that was kind of mean.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: indeed...
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: so I have 12 entries, starting with router, until aardwolf.org
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: pings go 100+ ms when tracing aard side
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Give me one reason..
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: no misses and all pings <50ms
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: if you don't really know what you'ree looking at, go to pastebin.com and copy the output there, then send us the link
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Ah nevermind
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: what does * mean in the trace?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I was right
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: thats a timeout
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: qbano, * means that ping timed out
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What line is that one on, Qbano?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As in what's the address?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok irya you wre right. Now let us continue thinking up wrong things to solve it
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: and 100ms isn't really a dealbreaker, unless you have 20 of them...
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: blablbal.networkplayer.com
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Irya flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I never doubted myself
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: k..gonna do some restarts here and there. also gonna punch a hole in the wall :)
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: I guess that is the only smart thing to do
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: hols in the wall cost money 
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Restart then wait for 1 minute
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: only if you fix them afteward
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: im going to toss my 2 gold in here..... i had his issue when i tried mudding with the wifes client the other day with her damn norton. i removed it and everything worked fine. it would seem that their protocol analyzer didnt like telnet.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: true
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: its not always a connection issue.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Toxic: That'd make sense if he installed Norton recently or always had this issue, but nothing seems to indicate either.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but google.com and aardmud.org woudl both have high pings
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Bytor.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: arcid youre not supertech did you even bother to ask if he had any freeware protection that could be bottlenecking his protocol.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: which is why irya shouldn't be patting himself on the back. it wasn't "his wifi" or "his internet." it is a problem downstream that he has no control over per the tracert.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Again, he hasn't indicated installing anything, nor of always having this issue. :)
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Mr. Dash.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: no, Arcidayne used logic
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irya Tech: Ok then Bytor's plan is most likely then
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Irya pats himself on the head.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, I've worked tech support, and still freelance it. :)
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: again. its your job as a troubleshooter to find out what he's running in his environment before troubleshooting. he could have hips settings that are set by his windows firewall that are screwing with him.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: is that a good thing?  tech support is rarely useful
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: in arcidayne's defense: if we asked every thing which could possibly have an impact, we'd be here all day.  We can start from the problem and work from there.  We *can* ask "have you installed any programs recently", that can be quite a valuable data point.  But frankly, ping and tracert are such basic network diagnostic tools, there's nothing really wrong with going directly to them
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'veren Vultaire Tech: and in the case ping/tracert don't show anything, then we can ask other questions which might have an impact
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Ta'veren Vultaire.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Start simple, work inward out.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: tech support is rarely useful? O.o help desk crap is its own industry
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In other words, don't tell the person to take apart their power supply when they say their computer doesn't turn on. Instead, make sure they plug it in first, and the switch is actually on. :P 
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ToxicShadow Tech: im gonna step out, that comment shows the bravado of a cocky teoubleshooter, ive also been doing troubleshooting across all layers of the osi model since i was 18 im now 32 but wouldnt toss taphat in another techs face. good luck figuring his issue out.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you've been doing troubleshooting half your life, then you should know to identify the problem location first. If it came back that he couldn't ping Google, then we'd ask about any programs. Also, if you go back over history, the very first things I mentioned was something on his computer could be causing the lag.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: This feels totally obvious. To be able to reset a acer iconia w510, you need to enter uefi(not del or anything usual, press power+volume down), activate the f12 boot menu, set a supervisor password, clear the secureboot settings, disable secureboot, move a usb dvd to the top boot position, and then you STILL need to push F12 during boot or it'll go to the second option(hdd) automatically. *sigh*
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Sorry, just needed to vent.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: anyone know if there is a way to use the mapper and portal to an area, rather than using 'runto area'?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: without knowing the room ID that is
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Winkle's mapper extender does that.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: ah thank you
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: xrt <area>
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: history 10
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: oops
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: a script to consider the portals in your posessioin and use them in favor of runto is not too difficult to write if you are inclined to learn
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mapper lets you assign portals 
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but portals don't go to areas. portals go to rooms.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyone know how to list all portals in bags using eqdb addon?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Doesn't look like you can.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thought I'd seen Abe mention a way last night
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I guess I'll have to figure out the db
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: If there's a way to list certain items already, shouldn't be hard to code in a way to show portals too
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Banned Tech: does anyone know a lot about monitors?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Banned Tech: I'm wondering is it possible to buy a high quality monitor where I can adjust the actual backlight
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Banned Tech: it
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: what different is that to changing the brightness and contrast settings?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Banned Tech: it's a good question, but I think changing the brightness has something to do with the bits and not the backlight perse
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Banned Tech: however, I don't know.  I do know that even turning the brightness down on this Supernova 5000 LCD Blindness Machine is still burning my retinas
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Banned Tech: it helps if I wear sunglasses, but then I look silly.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Yeah, mine has been set on 0 brightness for a while.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: heh, but sunglasses indoors are just too cool.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: can't imagine using it on anything higher
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Banned Tech: and would you go to -1 if you could, madcatz?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: sure
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: then again, I almost never have any lights on in my house except when I'm eating
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: so I'm strange
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Banned Tech: I'm starting to think this is a common problem with power users, but too many monitors are sold in stores where the brightest stands out on the shelf so they go overboard on the backlight
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: hmm... on a normal tv set turning the brightness and contrast down usually does the trick....
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: my tv has a separate backlight setting
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: separate from brightness
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: no idea what the actual difference is
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: The setting I have it on now is the lowest self-adjusting setting (adjusts according to the light in the room), so I can't actually adjust the backlight unless I turn that off, but I can still adjust the brightness
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: So it seems that blacklight or not depends on the technology used by the tv. Plasma has no use for backlight since it emitts light by itself.
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: found how to find portals
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: in cas anyone was interested
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: eqlu type = 20 order by level asc
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: and to find types: eqdb translate objecttypes
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so can list on whichever item you want
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: what db are you in?
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: eqdb plugin from Bast
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: finally found the part of the doc to show me
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: oh cool i just loaded it
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: got some portals I didnt know i had
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yup, that's why I wanted it heh
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I just don't know what they all are, and would like to not lose any
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I like the addid <name> for the bags
T3/r7/2015-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: eqdb help shows all
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyone have a link to mushclient accelerators to make macros?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I Can't get to mushclient.com atm
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a built-in command
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: hi Abe, is it called macro?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's called accelerators
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd imagine the macro helpfile links to the accelerator helpfile though
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: it links to mushclient.com which I can't get to
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I went to the wiki
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm talking about the client's helps
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not the wiki
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yes, for some reason it is not loading
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so went to the wiki sorry
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you say the help isn't loading, has it ever for you, or has it always given you a message that windows cannot open the helps?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably don't have the windows helpfile viewer installed, as MS stopped shipping it with Vista and above, but they still offer it as a download
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ah, never have tried it, so ya, maybe that is the issue, windows 8.1
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: going to windows support
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want to download the windows 8.1 version of winhlp32.exe
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, it's instaling, sorry
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: should have clicked further, clicked on readme, which took me to website, which took me to wiki
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as for accessing mushclient.com...have you tried instead going to http://www.gammon.com.au? it's the same site, just different domain
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: i Have not, thanks I will
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: if I can get help file working, I will be fine
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one link on the aard client's wiki is to a forum page which has a nice plugin to make accelerator management better...the accelerator commands themselves only create it for that launch of MUSHclient
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the plugin has you paste in your accelerators to save across launches
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: okay
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: it is telling me to try copying help file somewher
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, interesting...try right-clicking the MUSHCLIENT.HLP file and going to its properties...at the bottom of the properties window, it may have an "unblock" button
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sometimes Windows gets persnickety because "this file was downloaded from the Internet"...well I know that, I downloaded it to use :P
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: was playing the newb and opening from help window up top
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: and now it opens in there as well, all set 
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did this url work? http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794#39
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: does not appear to be
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: same IP
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: not pinging from here
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, knew it was the same IP (same machine), wasn't sure if your issue might be with something URL-filter-based
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: oh, soryr
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: tired
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, just for giggles, try turning the wifi off on your phone (so it's using cell data) and see if your phone can access the page
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ah good idea
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: from the bastards at comcast I guess
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: good find Abe
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: or it's my trend "protect me" thing
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: although that would usually tell me the page is naughty, I'll tether and try
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: okay, tethering works, so it's comcast
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I'll look on site I guess, I can't see accelerators, I see accelerator and acceleratorTo which just let's you modify the macros already given
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the url goes directly to an FAQ entry on accelerators with the plugin
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: okay, will try tomorrow when cell has enough battery to show me
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks again, and sorry for silly questions
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I put the relevant stuff into personal board note to you :)
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: just trying to get some things sorted as I'd like
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: great, thanks
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone here who develops android apps?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Bamboo are you still looking for someone who develops android apps?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: in the mush client is there a difference to get a trigger to fire on a communication log line as opposed to a main window line of text ?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The communication log doesn't fire triggers.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The text received via GMCP is sent to the communication log.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you'd have to fire off the GMCP text.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Though what purpose are you needing it?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: guys for some reason my antivirus is telling me lua 5.1 dll (comes with the client) is a virus (I've excluded it for now to ask whats up with it) whats going on o-o
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: its coming up as Suspicious.cloud.7.l on the antivirus
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: It's not a virus.  If you quarantine it, you're going to get errors.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: board tech;note fullthread 66247
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: board tech;note fullthread 6624
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: thanks I'll read it
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: although you can ignore the last half of that thread...
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: I actually had to unquarantine it to get the client to load up haha, was just concerned
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: If it helps, my McAfee has no issues with the client and software
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blayze Tech: I'm going to remove norton probably, too many false positives
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razzel Tech: check out avtest.org
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: how do I add a "world" command to an "execute" alias?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: (aardmush client)...
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Send
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can use Execute, too.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: didn't work.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You used Send("command")?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: oops hangon
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, wait, you have an Execute alias, not script.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In that case, you just need to put the command.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: You can't have a world command in an execute alias.  You can have both in a script alias, though.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: on one line I want "enter" sent to the mud and on the other line I want "mapper goto xx" executed.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh? I always do script, so I didn't realize that wasn't possible. Sad.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ok I'll try that
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: You have other aliases for enter?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If not, just put enter on the line
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think "enter" is the world command.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: "execute" is basically exactly like you typed it into the command line
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So why wouldn't world commands, which you can type into the command line, work?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: they will, that's what I'm saying.  unless he is trying to bypass some alias or something, can just put them both in an execute alias
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's not what you're saying: Madcatz Tech: You can't have a world command in an execute alias.  You can have both in a script alias, though.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: when it's an execute alias the word "enter" is not sent to the mud.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: By a "world command", I mean something that gets sent straight to world
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: It does unless you have some other alias for enter, Meeper.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If you do, then you need to use a script alias, and use Execute() and Send()
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: don't have any alias by that name.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: I'll try that.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If you type "enter" into the command line, does it get sent to the mud?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: yep
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Then it should in an excecute alias
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: can't think of any reason why it wouldn't
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ok I see what's happening it's entering but executing on the mapper command before it reads the new room number.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why are you wanting to enter anyway?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: just want all my aliased speedwalks to start by entering the aard portal
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's not very efficient, since mapper goto xx will always use the shortest path anyway.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: it isn't when I'm in my manor, it's just running down and taking shortest path from recall.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Set up the amulet as a portal in the mapper
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: ok will try that.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: DONE! THanks guys
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: still getting my head around mush, I was always zmud.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeper Tech: and realising this mapper is quite powerful.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: there seems to be a problem with the 'bigmap' command when i connect with telnet. the game close the connection in the middle of it. can someone test this plz?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: see the last paragraph of help bigmap
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thats pretty common, lots of clients choke and die when faced with a large incoming block of text.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qadosh Tech: Might just be some sort of flood protection in your client, that's a lot of lines
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farzad Tech: thanks ill check it out now
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: Any grails developers on?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: How do I make an alias fire off another alias after its complete?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: well.. put it on medium heat and let it come to a boil
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: then pour it on you? :)
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: but any ideas?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: are you using a cast iron pan?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: i'm told that a seasoned pan makes the best food
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: im trying to make one alias fire both an execute command and an output command and figure having my execute alias fire for the output alias is easiest
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: so yeah, Daddius has a point.. you should probably season that pan first
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crunchy Granola sighs.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: so you're probably looking to use a trigger also?
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: oh i guess so
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: I thought there was a way you could make an alias fire another alias
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddius Tech: i could be wrong, but it'd just do it imediately so there'd be no difference between that and a multiple command alias
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: oh i just put the second alias name in my alias and it worked
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: that was incredibly simple.
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: The world needs more outspoken women
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: oops
T3/r7/2015-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Bast's StatMonitor works ell for what you are looking for, finger bast
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know a good android friendly client that doesnt use this lame android keyboard?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Can't you just download another keyboard to use?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn maybe 
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: not seeing any better keyboards, no
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: someone (Rebel) tells the CLAN: 'we have no landline, all the wires are stollen, so we rely on wireless internet'
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in mush can you find mouse side buttons
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: lol, I have a logitech G13 programmed to aard:)
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mm I mean in mush, the mouse itself you can program
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but I dont wanna switch profiles
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: probably cant
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in lua can you have an if condition that has a couple AND clauses and then an OR clause in the middle
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: a AND b AND (c or d)
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I would think it would be a pretty bad language if you couldn't do that
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does anyone know the syntax
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/3.3.html
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: where does it have syntax of what im talking about
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or do you just paste me the first if thing you found
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: the very first sentence.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: and,or,not
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ..
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: good, now I know lua supports basic if statements
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: trez, lua does support it and it is as you describe. if (foo and foo1) or foo3 then something end
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just didnt work, I worked it out tho
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: had the priority wrong I think
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: most times in situations where it doesn't work as expected check your logic before checking if the language supports something :)
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I do that all the time :)
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I was checking the syntax
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: already checked the logic
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: palez-vous francais?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Rhuli Tech: english only, please
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: non
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: the y told me you would speak french here
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: my inglish is not that great bit it must do
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Rhuli Tech: Try using private channels, such as ftalk
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: ok i need to set up wine for ubuntu so i can use the aardwolf client
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: can you help me?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried using apt-get?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or the GUI search for apps
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: geting it is not the problem it is seting up after words
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there shouldn't really be anything to set up
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cant you use windows
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: all the amirican youtubers say it is hard
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: say what is hard?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you know
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: no i can not use windows becuse i can not aford to have 100 dolers go for an os in my second languge
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would the OS be in your second language?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then maybe you should be busy looking for a job instead of installing mush
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: have you installed WINE on your PC?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: so i can work on my second languge with people from thare with this place and the enternet
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: no not yeyyt
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: inglish is not my first languge
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: do you know how to use the Ubuntu Software Center?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: yes
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: as i sayed geting it is not problem
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you should be able to search for WINE in the Software Center
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: am i cinfushing you guys?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ok, go ahead and install it
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Haha, you can play Pac-man on Google Maps right now, in any town in the world.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: am i confushing you?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am not sure what the problem is, Codekeeper
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: ught sorry my ingklish is horable
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: bro
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: don't worry about your English - we can understand you
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: ok 
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: fo ixämpl tis kaind of inglish khän oolsou bii andostuud! :P
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: what did you say that is defenitleey nor french
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: english pronounced way
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: you amiricans confuse me
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: i aint some hillbilly gun-grazy american!
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: sorry britsh too
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: you know, people do study english in other countries too
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: yes 
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: just the english studies tend to suck in russia, france, germany, japan and some other countries. :P
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: bu thoes are thee to most comon o n the enternet
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: dubbed tv-programs are to blame. :P
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: you sayed it
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: i agre
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: in france ween i watched harry poter for the first time i ws a bit younger and did nnot under stand that ween they sayed baguettes au pret that they did not mean bread at the redy we use the same word for aour bread as we do a rod or wand
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: how is that for a bad translation
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: they called the wands "baguettes" in the French translation?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I would have thought "batons"...
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: as in "Beauxbatons"
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: yes it means rod but it is also i kinda bread
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ah, ok
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: i was hunger and thery confused by it
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: after waatching that my brother and i took bread out in the yard and thought wit it
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: fought
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: they asked
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: aardwolf.com offline for me again.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: why does this keep happening randomly?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgn Tech: Any idea why MushClient keeps dropping connection and I have to log in again? It's not my firewall.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: is it MUSH client, or idle time?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgn Tech: every now and again when I'm moving from room to room it will hang, and then timeout I guess.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Possible plugin hanging?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgn Tech: I am using only what I downloaded from Aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgn Tech: Just happened again... MCCP Mapper has disconnected is all it said.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's compression protocol... interesting.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypernova Tech: anybody know the BBSSH client?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoraxis Tech: [rootilmail01 cur]# rm -rf *
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoraxis Tech: -bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoraxis Tech: so beautiful...
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoraxis Tech: just because i have 500k files in this folder :P
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyone around that works in SQL? I have vague questions about it, not about how to use it :p
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I've worked with SQL, but it's not a very vague language so will be hard to answer :P
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: What are your questions?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: in fact I'd say it's quite structured!
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth groans as he realizes what he has done.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: what's the query?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Language!
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I know nothing about SQL. I want to get a job in a kinda-industry where SQL knowledge is a huge plus. where do I start?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: google
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://www.reddit.com/r/SQL/comments/18fxho/are_there_any_sites_like_codecademy_to_learn_sql/
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: your local library may have a book on SQL 
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: read it
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i can teach you to squeal
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but the library has smelly people :(
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: ha ha ha!!!!
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: you mean authors?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: They probably have a book describing pre-SQL92 randomness for some specific implementation, anyway   :p
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: would it be possible to go from nothing to a SQL certification in a couple of months?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: lol you guys
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure it's possible - it depends on your background and how quickly you learn those types of things :)
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Considering how worthwhile pretty much every certification I've ever seen has been, I assume you could do it in a day or two...
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythresam Tech: Sure, if you put some time into it. Get some practice tests and go from there
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if this is MS SQL, Microsoft has Sql Books Online as a free resource
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's also w3schools which has sql
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I work with medical records and pharmacy software, but my areas of expertise have limited applications, so I'm trying to expand out.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You really should research the industry itself though - it's usually worth it to understand what you are competiting against, (i.e. do you have a chance against someone with 10 years experience with huge databases)....
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ideally I'd get a certification to be an adminsitrator in Epic, but you need a sponsor to even get training, so that's out.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would be easily possible to go from nothing to a SQL cert in a couple months for technically-minded
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if you're using epic, sql only matters with clarity
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: they use cache (mumps) for their database
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm not using Epic, which is the problem. if I was using Epic, I'd be fine :p
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: safari books online can be a nice resource for feeling stuff out
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oo I use mumps
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I had mumps once
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I had the chicken pox when I was a kid, so I'm ok right?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: no ofense but this is not healt h it is tech most people here most likley are not doctors
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm not a doctor but I train doctors :p
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: cool what is your job?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Ambilevous Tech: Doctor trainer
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: This has to be the weirdest suicide ever. Bishoujo Raded nods so wildly at Mostly Ambilevous her head must fall off any second. Or so Mostly Ambilevous seems to hope.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I used to train doctors, but it was too annoying trying to keep the schedules straight, so now I just use a car.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded giggles at Not an Imm Erikson's actions.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: ok cool i think i have very bad inglish
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I doctor trains
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: which are smarter doctors or programmers?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: depends on your definition of smart
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: My doctor wouldn't know lexical scoping if it bit him in a splenic sequestration, so...
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: just like the ever question i just answerd on noobie equal y good at difrent things
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: what bear is best?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: trick question all bears are best
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Polar, obviously.  They're the top.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: you guys are meing with me aren't you honestley what is a bear?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: imo. it doesn't need definition. just, in this place programmers are smarter. 
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: i am french what is a bear in inglish? makes no sense
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: big furry cute animal
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I've never seen a bear use Englihs.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Or even English.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: do not moc me i am learning inglish and this is a new keybooard and it is not a french one!!!!
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: IIIIINglish?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Ooh, you want the no-mocking channel.  Sorry, this is Tech...
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: look i have had an odd and dificalt life stop it 
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: stop what?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Now, odd and difficult, that's our specialty.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: tech iss your specialty how odd and dificuly you say i neraly i diesd ween i was 3 years olld  and nearley got killed again in a car carsh not long ago too
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: mm. there is absolutely no channels for complaining about our rl. but we are all damaged here somehow:p
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: you asked
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Tech _is_ odd and difficult.  And it's only by taking pretty much everything about it as lightly as possible that we maintain whatever shreds of sanity we're still legally presumed to possess.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codekeeper Tech: it was my birth father thaat did it to me nearley killed me i am turning off tech chanel, you guys are not kind
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Can anyone explain how linux permissions work when sharing a drive with windows using Samba?
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: I've messed with that a bit and it depends, as far as I've found, on how you have your samba shares set up
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Yeah, I don't know much about Samba. My idea setup would be to have the drive writable by my own windows computers and only readable to others.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: To be completely honest I NEVER got login-based access working, and just filtered access via iptables
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: My experience with such things says you better have a decent *nix guy, and a really good Windows guy.  Otherwise when something doesn't work, you'll never figure out which side is causing the problem.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Bingo
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You can use various tools (some that come with samba, some otherwise) from the *nix system to test logging in and listing resources and such, but that doesn't necessarily translate to the windows box being able to do the same.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Nightmarish.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: But, if you can get user based logins working, then I would guess file permissions could be handled like any other nix permissions
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Depends.  There are some things where it's all *nix perms, some things where Samba does some sorta ACLish stuff internally, and some things where it's a terrifying combination.
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: X-ref "nightmarish"   :p
T3/r7/2015-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The solution, as I see it, is to sneak in during the night, install a *nix on everybody's machine, do a bog-simple NFS setup to mount filesystems appropriately, then install virtualbox or something and stick Windows in that for them to use.  It _still_ works out simpler   :p