T3/r7/2015-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hrm, UK media not reporting that the Oregon shooter was actively targetting Christians' T3/r7/2015-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if he'd been targetting black people, or women, you can bet your arse they'd be making a heck of a big deal out of it' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'question is, if saudi arabia tries to intervene in Syria by attacking Russia or Syria, and RUssia strikes back, what will the USA do? Will they come to the aid of their pet islamic state, or will they sit back?' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'which desert hellhole was it that the us got into a proxy war with itself? was it syria?' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vyrys: 'if it's still in Syria the US won't do a thing, bit if it crosses into Saudi, we'll have boots on the ground' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so if saudi strikes russia and russia strikes back, US will intervene?' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sounds like an ideal way to end civilisation' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vyrys: 'only if it's on Saudi soil; the US is more than happy to let whoever feels like it turn Syria into a mass grave' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd be a bit miffed if the planet was turned into a nuclear wasteland over a bunch of retarded turban wearing skyfaerie worshippers' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'fortunately i don't think saudi would dare get involved' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vyrys: 'same, and as for the nukes, everyone that has the ability to glass another country also knows they'll end up glassed too, so there's not a nuclear power that would actually do it' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'will they will, but only as a matter of last resort' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vyrys: 'agreed' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but both sides couldn't have picked a better part of the world to retire their old stockpiles of weapons, and try out the new ones' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'only downer is the very low level of casualties' T3/r7/2015-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'before anyone would have a reaction to a call for casualities, bear in mind this is a group of people who believe anyone who doesn't subscribe to Islam should either be unfairly taxed, forced to convert, or slaughtered because their skyfaerie told them so' T3/r7/2015-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'lotr is based on racism.' T3/r7/2015-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'hardcore racism' T3/r7/2015-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'all trolls are bad. all orcs.' T3/r7/2015-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'giants are dumb' T3/r7/2015-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'only the white races have variety' T3/r7/2015-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Gwyneth Paltrow only got $9m for her role in the last Iron Man movie. It's just damned well not enough for a mother of 2 to live off! Robert Downie Jnr got way more for the same work! Damned male patriarchy oppressing women!' T3/r7/2015-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '$9m income rather' T3/r7/2015-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'patriarchy is the best' T3/r7/2015-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tigernuts nods at Tinada. T3/r7/2015-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i dunno if anyone has noticed that feminists have rather a lot in common with communists - they won't be happy until everyone is equal' T3/r7/2015-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'a young female "No borders" activist didn't report for a month that she was gang-raped by Sudanese migrants because she was told it would "harm the cause"' T3/r7/2015-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how's that for cultural and agenda-driven gaslighting for' T3/r7/2015-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you' T3/r7/2015-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec hears the faint sounds of a cricket chirping. T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'This is the better place for the discussion.' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'no its not' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Better than gossip, I think.' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'what discussion?' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'About Columbus.' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'gossip history' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'was he a dick or..' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Yeah, that discussion' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'hmm... I agree that perhaps talking about whether or not a historical figure promoted rape might be better on here' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its not a better channel for debating. because no one cares what happens here' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Then toggle off the channel?' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'wait.. thats your response to a proper argument?=' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'Hwuaijijal: debate is flagged as a curse channel, gossip isn't. once someone starts talking about rape I think you have to move over here' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal sits corrected T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Ok, trying not to be more confused than I need to. People were debating the character of Columbus. Seems to me that debate channel is appropriate for... debates.' T3/r7/2015-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'Get them while they are hot! US Treasury t-bills paying 0% yield! Record demand!' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'it all started with tv and radio. people sitting around as a family getting spoon fed their information and gobbling it up' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'now people are busy going crazy or full retard' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I avoid mass media, with a few exceptions: I read some specialized (behind-the-)news and commentary sites, and occasionally watch movies with friends and relatives.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the problem is deeper than that. I know that saying the people in the US have an image problem is rather harsh but there is no other way to describe it. Now, that doesn't mean that other cultures don't have the same problems, but they approach them differently. Here is the most interesting example of what I mean: Until about 30 years ago, it was considered improper for men and women who weren't involved ( and preferably married) to live together. Then the show ' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'three's company' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Three is Company began to air. The show was a success and as a corollary the idea became part of the culture. The tv show blessed the cohabitation of men and women.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'however, there was considerable controversy in the major religions of the time' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'I believe it was Three's Company' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'in another country, the probable route would have been religious and no while I don't think they would ban a show like Three is Company, they would not give them such a place of honor.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'yes, but the point is that the moral ground can be paved with tv shows.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'paved or paved over?' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'indeed, and so it has been for generations, paved and paved over' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'now we have the kardashians!' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'moral high ground if there ever was none' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'take the case now, people are beginning to respect nerds simply because of the tv show. Note however that the show does not advocate becoming a nerd, it simple gives them respect.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'what show do you mean? star trek?' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'nerds or just plain out whiney emasculated men and borderline feminism' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'no, star trek never encouraged nerdiness, but the big bang theory does. It's at the same level as Three is Company.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'but it's no longer just television shows, it's all media, tons of magazines at all checkout lines, how to be thin and attractive and what to buy to be popular and pretty and liked' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'big bang theory' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'nerds were too cool for star trek, got ya' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'didn't an actress on the show get bashed for an interview she gave?' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'in other words, if Three Is Company would have been a serious show that addressed the moral, ethical and practical problems of men and women cohabiting, it would have failed to carry, no matter how successful. But because it was a funny show, then people said that cohabitation was humorous and therefore acceptable.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'big bang theory actually celebrates star trek and star wars and ropes all the various 'nerdy' connotation shows into 'coolness' via big bang' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it does, with humor, and humor is the key.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'humor means to the people that there are no moral repercussions, if your neighbor laughs at you for being a nerd, it is ok now because we all laugh at the Big Bang Theory.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'I would say it's not just necessarily humor, but presentation with humor being a very easy and readily applicable means of presentation that avoids moral conundrums in general populations' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'people are being arrested for repeating things that are said on tv ' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'but note that in the show the characters still get beat up by the muscleheads.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'it's been that way for years and years, wanpo, blame the television and musical media for my actions, not me, the tv made me do it' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'yeah, I would certainly would have had my mouth washed with soap if I talked liked that at home. But since is ok to do it on tv, children are talking to their parents that way now, and the parent accept it becuase, hey, its on tv.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: '"Well, Beavis said fire over and over and over again, so I become a criminal arsonite, not because I would have actually become an arsonist, but because a character on tv said it."' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'notice the quotes in that statement pls...' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'another thing that Madison avenue is doing is turning children against parents. Look at all the commercials where children are the smart ones and the parents have no clue and would be lost if it weren't for the children.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'is this a 'curse' channel?' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hail! Ceasar: 'Pretty sure it is' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'hot damn' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'people no longer cook at home because look at all the fast food they can buy either at McD's or at the frozen isle of the supermarket. The only thing one needs to learn is how to boil water and hit start on the microwave.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'I don't wanna get nazi'd because of cursing for the sake of debate on the debate channel' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you don't need to curse to get your point across :)' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'around the 90's it was unheard of for the word 'ass' or 'damn' to be on network television, and now these words and 'worse' are on even 'family' shows' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'I was using those 'curse' words in context' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'are you talking about snigglets?' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'in fact, cursing during standard conversations is a phenomenon that began in the late 70s when people were rebelling against the established mores and saying "fuck, yes" was reaching for the highest strata of coolness. ' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'because if there is one overriding desire in the US, it is to be "cool".' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'cool lol' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'and advertising companies were disallowed from mentioning their direct competitor in commercials, but now it's like "we're directv, buy us because, well, fuck comcast'' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hail! Ceasar: 'being able to mention competitors is a good thing' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'I agree and disagree simultaneously' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'it's healthy for a free enterprise capitalist system, but now many commercials are more about slandering their opponents than trying to promote their own product' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hail! Ceasar: 'If it's actually slander then they can sue.' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'I used that in a loose/broad definition' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'my point being, it used to be 'buy our product and here's why we think it's quality for price' whereas now it's more like 'don't believe this company when they offer a reason why their product is quality, they're lying and you shouldn't trust them'' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hail! Ceasar: 'Was that actually ever forbidden?' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hail! Ceasar: 'Or just not done?' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'i know not of any direct forbidding, but it was just not done' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'usually the company says 'versus the next leading brand'' T3/r7/2015-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he she he she HE SHE HE SHE fuck off John McWhorter and shove it up your arse' T3/r7/2015-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'http://news.yahoo.com/merkel-shocked-political-stabbing-mayoral-candidate-164114546.html' T3/r7/2015-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'let the hunger games begin!' T3/r7/2015-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its not americans u should hate on its the eu' T3/r7/2015-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'just wait for the tpp and you`ll see' T3/r7/2015-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'um people in bigger cities in US, what are your feelings about immigrants who doesn't care to learn english and only stick to their communities?' T3/r7/2015-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'so ... what should we do tonight, pinky?' T3/r7/2015-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQVaGHarTJk' T3/r7/2015-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'anyone watching this benghezhi hearing still..this dude sounds like the matrix guy' T3/r7/2015-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'So has Fox News told us what Hurricane Patricia is punishment for yet?' T3/r7/2015-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmmm, conroe tx is currently getting about 1 inch of rain per hour because of the triple hit storm pattern that is hitting Texas from the south, west and north.' T3/r7/2015-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'must be global warming' T3/r7/2015-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, that's cain' T3/r7/2015-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'mis, cuz it really belongs here :P' T3/r7/2015-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'bloody house of lords' T3/r7/2015-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Who+will+watch+the+watchmen?' T3/r7/2015-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'clearly, the answer is 'police eunuchs'' T3/r7/2015-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i actually learned all about this one on the internet - saying someone is wrong because they are a fool is ad hominem. presenting evidence that someone is wrong, and then calling them a fool, is _not_ ad hominem - just name-calling.' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '16yr old stabbed in an Aberdeen school, the campaign to ban schools goes on' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Wanpo closes the door to the van, puts on a pair of headphones and begins recording. T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'wasn't you that called in a bomb threat to SXSW was it?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'ban school?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'isn't that typical of regressives' policy, Swalec?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or at least, their logic' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'perhaps I missed the early part of the discussion, but I am not sure I understand' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'more like destroy the public school system. its a class war ' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there was no early part of the discussion, just pointed out that a boy died after being stabbed in an aberdeen school' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'I home school my children' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada jumps high screaming, "WOOHOO!" You wonder what Wanpo did. T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'but where does the banning come in TN' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'because they've tried banning knives, they've tried banning guns, only thing left is to ban schools' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'they will ban school buses first' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the school buses weren't involved, Wanpo' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Schools are an essential part of the system, they must be expanded!' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'well, surely there are many things in the world that are not knives or guns.' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I hear pupils spend several hours per week doing non-school things, this must be brought to an end.' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I mean, what about carrots? Or parsnips? I mean they could ban those before schools' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well i guess we could ban Scottish people, Swalec, but they're the only other thing involved in the killing' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'forget banning' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'everyone should be armed for self defense' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'when we get kids being killed in schools it's nearly alays either in the North because of ignorant poor people, or in London where there are ignorant immigrants' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'everyone should be disarmed for self defence, Wanpo' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'no' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and make it a criminal offence to defend yourself like it is herein the UK' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'disarmed and tied up!' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'TN, mostly when kids get killed, it's cars' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nogs, ban cars' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'i may have to.defend myself against a crooked cop' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'fortunately they don't tend to drive cars about schoolrooms' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'no, in the UK we use the roads for that generally' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'but, unfortunately that's also how we get kids from home to school' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nogs, roads are for driving and for revenue generation for the police' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I think that the police spend more money on the road than they make from it' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they should stop then, they're making a loss' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'arent you ukers known for flipping cars and setting stuff on fire in protest?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, knocking over dustbins in Shaftsbury' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'lols' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'is looting big there too or just general anarachy?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we did manage a riot in 2011, but that was just a bunch of twats doing a bit of shopping with 5finger discount' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Wanpro: that's the french' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, people are too stupid to protest here, and besides, protest is largely illegal' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'cause over here in the states people go full retard' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'people in the UK tend to just bend over and take raging knobbled government cock up the chuff' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'we like going after people that had nothing to do with the situation lol' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i have a feeling the UK is a nation of masochists, given who they elect' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its ok when both of our countries finally get stuffed from the immigration' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'finally? we're stuffed now' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'we can expect charlie hedbo style stuff i bet' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'we've been taking in 1% of our population extra for the last 13yrs' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there's been no matching growth in housing or services, so everything is now basically broken' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but because people are stupid, they haven't figure it out yet' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'some have' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nobody can afford houses or rents because they've gone up stupid amounts and they all stand around wondering why' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if i weren't homeless, i'd find it funny' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'same here. the system is grinding to a halt' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'meantime, as you know, europe has been invaded by a bunch of muslim criminals' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'no different here' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'like a plague of locusts, cutting across europe, stealing, raping, murdering' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its a eu thing' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well they've managed to convince people here that somehow the world would end if we left the EU' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'people are dumb enough to buy it' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its too late either way' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'theres talk that the middle class in sweden is radicalized' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'too late for what?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I like the EU -- no nasty phone charges' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i heard about that last Sweden school killing, i notice the first thing the media rolled out was that he was anti-immigration and a gamer' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'talk in the us of forming a domestic terrorist unit' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'US already has a domestic terrorist unit' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'no' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'spoken without a trace of sarcasm, Swalec' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'your not following the orwellian logic' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'they are talking of forming one' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i apologise - multitasking :-)' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'so we can expect lots of people to disappear' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'did you hear about Turkey?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'what about?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'well, I like the idea of the EU also' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '2 days before their election and their leader closes down one of their biggest TV stations who has been supporting the opposition - full SWAT team, taken off air' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'bearing in mind this is a country they're planning to let join the EU' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'imagine if, in 2008, 2 days before the US election, Bush ordered CNN raided and taken off air' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'alex Jones would be first' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hail! Ceasar: 'in the US, that would backfire so hard' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'not cnn' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'fbi already has an open case on him now' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's a waste of their time' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he's instantly deniable' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its a formality' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the equivalent would be Obama going after Fox' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or taking out the entire talk radio network' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'he either gets arrested or hes paid opposition' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'with tyrants its never the person its the day' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'and i will support liberty to the death if necessary. and no thats not a threat but a declaration of self defense :-)' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but really, stupid going after Jones, he puts out sufficiently large amounts of bullshit that the good stuff that genuinely embarasses them can be discredited' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all you do by going after someone like that is give them airtime' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'true but he may also do it intentionally' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nah' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'then he can brand it as entertainment news' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'he's autistic and has trouble discriminating myth from fiction, 2+2=5 stuff' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'why else do you think he sounds like a televangelist mixed with sam kinison ' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all american media sounds like televangelist' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'they are doing that lol' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'i heard a woman complaining while getting food at a pantry' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that silly MSN cow that thinks all your kids belongs to the state was ranting at some political commentator claiming that he can't say Paul Ryan is hard working because he isn't black and because slavery' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what's her name?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'she said 1 witch plus 3 apples = 8 flying mmonkeys' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'see, i'm glad i'm not american, because when Michael Savage starts sounding like the least mental broadcaster, you know you have problems' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in the UK we have the BBC, which is absolutely impartial and not at all steered by the establishment *nod self*' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'lol' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'never mattered to begin with' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'who owns the phone lines? towers? satellites?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'the respective governments' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hail! Ceasar: 'technically the phone comapny owns the lines, but the government taps at will' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'phone lines are mostly owned by British Telecom PLC, Towers owned by various mobile phone companies, satellites? probably the americans' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nogs, Ceasar' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'they control the medium therefore they control the information' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's a bit of a simplistic description of the BBC' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'the companies are in debt to the government for installing the phone lines' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nah, it's just that they're regulated' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's where the tapping capacity comes in' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'regardless of.country they own it or they installed it' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'no company since the telegraph could get the money or resources to install all that' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they wouldn't need to. Developing countries tend to go with mobile for rural areas and fibre for cities' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'they have control over the towers' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'if the gov demanded the whole debt from these companies most would be sunk' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'the truly independent are pushed out of the market by intense regulations' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'how long do you think this mess rotted before people started to smell it lol?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they won't' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'some do but its too late' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there have been whole books dedicated to exploring the capacity of society to accept every crappier conditions' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its been implemented' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'now all we can do is study they system and cheat each other or hold on till we must resort to that' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'now all we can do is study they system and cheat each other or hold on till we must resort to that' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well think about it, you have globalisation, you have automation - the future doesn't need human labour. We have expanding populations and less jobs, less money, less space, less food and water to go around' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and it bites you'll get more control, more draconian laws' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'more wars' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how do you think it'll play out?' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'as it always has' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'a game of power no more no less' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'may the strongest survive' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well, debt will never be repaid, economies will never recover' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'all well' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the middle class are done, they'll be smushed into the lowest class' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they already have in the UK, there's no distinction' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'no government is permanent' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'someone in a skilled trade here on above median wage has no better quality of living, no better access to services goods or housing than someone on welfare' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its a cycle' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'thats how i see it. we just so happen to be born during a low.point' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'might as well be for the length of the transience, it's longer than most active lifespans' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'or possibly a high point' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's not a linear cycle, it's a cycle that has a permanently downward trajectory' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'not really' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'might have local minima and local maxima, but the trend is down' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'the wars will be used for.population control' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they won't, wars don't kill enough anymore' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hail! Ceasar: 'Nobody starts wars for population control. Even leaders aren't that cynical yet.' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'it drives up prices' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'the immigrants will start getting stabby like in israel' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nah, it gives them excuses for control, that's about it' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Israel kinda deserves it' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they've been asking for a knife in the guts for decades' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'everybody does lol' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'no country or culture has clean hands' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all the more reason to be better now' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'to live has always meant to struggle. we just struggle in different ways' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'instead of hunting animals for food we hunt each other for profit' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nice to see US having to change their Syria approach after the decision was taken out of their hands' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what could possibly go wrong' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'lol' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its all lies' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'there was always boots on the ground' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its literally 1984 by george orwell' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well there were, but not in any numbers' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'anyone who can't see that is a fool' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and they weren't there for the purposes of attacking ISIS' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'double plus ungood' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'oh the term hard worker is racist btw...' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes, i mentioned that earlier' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'think US would have been better off sitting back and letting RUssia do the donkeywork in Syriua' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'https://youtu.be/kOfsDLiGLUo' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nogs' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'Russia is certainly disarming and killing more terrorists' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'saw it yesterday via https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjwlbMjuPUQ' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'they just have the high score' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'of course by disarming i mean getting rid of those bombs they promised to get rid of lol' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'just picture putins solution to pollution' T3/r7/2015-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'think Putin's more interested in not having America set fire to all the countries surrounding him and starving his people out with bumfuck sanctions' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'lets pick a topic and derail it' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'do you think derailling that topic is a good idea? how will doing so diminish our reputation in the upper congo?' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i would ask what is said "upper congo" but that doesn't develop the debate. instead - do all ideas have to be good?' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'are there any bad ideas at all?' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: ''have to be'? vaccuous question, as empiric testing has revealed that more than zero ideas are !good.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'people have lived with no ideas for years and years. thousands of years. that wasn't so bad either' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ive found it helpful to carefully exclude all middles from any argument.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ok. what is "middles"?' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the things between the two ends?' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'google 'excluded middle' to learn more :)' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'socrates was almosd dead for a while. and parts of socrates are now alive again.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '0 and 1 doesnt work well' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'zero and one work great - its .3845 that causes problems.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thus, by excluding it, we simplify the argument being presented, and everything works perfectly. ly. ly.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '0 and 1 never work on human level. its always 0.123875237845238 something' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i call it the "emotional numbers"' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'so big' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'too little' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'real numbers' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'encompassing concepts of both extreme largeness and quite smallishness - arguably more interesting than holding both tea and no tea.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'very real numbers' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i imagine so :p' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'those "too big" and "too small" are not independent numbers but somethings that are connected to a treshold. so. those very real numbers have always 2 parts.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its a complex topic.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'im gonna invent very real numbers and get famous like einstein' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'but thats the beer talking' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'might want to try a different approach - einstein is famous for failing at math.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '2 approaches then - breed an awesome baby human or be and awesome one' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal is scrutinizing the crowd carefully, looking for a suitable subject for experimental anal bypass surgery. T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the answer is, of course, opitimizer. breed a better human, defined as a human that can breed a better human. iterate, until singularity. then have the end product hand over his smartphone, and market that.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'granpas don't have a say nowadays. its all gone topsyturvy' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'granpas should be gased' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'have you met granpas? they _are_.' T3/r7/2015-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then crucify them, they need to go, they're a crime against humanity' T3/r7/2015-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ahhh, but are they cards against humanity? 'cause playing that game with old people is hilarious.' T3/r7/2015-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'i love trump' T3/r7/2015-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'hes like whoa'