T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: can i only use this channel for mud related 
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: tech qns?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: yea mostly used for that
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: My macbook died on me. trying to get some help
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: All tech is fair game.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: oh misunderstood, yea you can ask other tech
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Died how, there's many ways it can die
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: Old 2010 MB and its running, fan is on etc. The screen/monitor just isnt shoeing anything
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Did you take it apart at all? Laptop monitors are super easy to fry
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: my mushclient is in it and i dont have a backup. and No, was mudding halfway and it Poof
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: have another monitor around ?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: I've another windows laptop and monitor 
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: yeah, try hooking to an external monitor if possible to see if it is just the display
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: But i dont have the output cable for it atm.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: if it powers up etc chances are it is indeed video, i would hookit up to another monitor to do a quick test
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Any monitor cable should work, I hook my laptop up to my big monitor all the time
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: the MB requires another connector. sighs
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: oh yeah svideo will work too :
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: providing tv and mb has the port
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: thanks for help, ill try to work on it. on mobile, so got disxo nected
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: Anyone knows if i can (a) remove the hardisk from my Macbook (b) set up as an external hard disk (c) and retrieve documents using a Windows lappy?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: use linux
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I googled 'apple hard drive on pc' not sure if those links are what you want but it seems possible to do what you're asking
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: thanks Cit. Using mobile now. 
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: if it's just a one time thing you could try http://www.mediafour.com/software/macdrive/trial/ but up to you if you want to try that approach
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: How do I resize my Communication Log window? It looks like it stretches PAST my window edge, and it will not let me move it past my left edge to look for the bottom right corner
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aardreset will reset all the windows.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: sorry, I crashed, what was that command?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type -h
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type tech -h
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: OK Thanks Turie :)
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Aardreset ... That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: sorry, resetaard
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: That did it :) Thanks a ton 
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: anyone have that old inventory plugin Blainer made that works on the newer mush clients?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: This line of code is erroring out, the error is: invalid escape sequence near '"^('
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: line, wildcards = wait.regexp ("^(\{invdetails\})$")
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: anyone help me fix that regex? I suck at it
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ^ http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=13222
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: Hi trying my luck again. - I have a Solid State Drive on my Macbook. I can dismantle it. How can i use my windows laptop to retrieve information from it?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Hungry Windigo Tech: Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Hungry Windigo Tech: does anybody know what I've done to cause this
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either you have not defined xrun_to or that alias had a previous error
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you defined xrun_to - then you need to find first error
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is S&D - reload all Winkle* plugins then just xrt <some area>
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it complains about date_added - then you have too new aard package for your plugni
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you need to apply Nokfah's fix (finger Nokfah)
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: What's the latest version of S&D?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: I cant just load Bast Plug-in
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: I need to do sth to it first?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: import it, then go to plugins and click reinstall on it
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: newbie question, mush client s&d, i dragged the output window for the mobs to far up now i cant grab it and move it, anyway to fix?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Did you try reinstalling? Might reset the position
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Hungry Windigo Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: thats my next step :P
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Or that, if you want the easy way out :)
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: thx gues command worked
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: is there anyway to adjust the window size of mushclientS&D?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: You have to edit the _GUI.xml file to adjust the size
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: to variables are initialized near the top of the script section: win_width and win_height
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: two*
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: how much bandwidth does RDP use?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: all.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded slaps Pheal My Redwood.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood has no idea.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: trying to help someone at a low bandwidth location use a high bandwidth application, thinking RDP might solve the issue
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: if the application isn't local :)
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crej Tech: get them to install radmin
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: server application. going to have her remote to the site where the server is and use it like that.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: anyone up for writing a tiny miniwin plugin for mush? i got some tps to spend
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no but I can write an erotic Sonic the Hedgehog fanfiction for TPs
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: less humour. more productivness
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: I need tps
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: is there a way to re-order spells in bast spellup? I want fly to be cast earlier before I run out of mana
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: bsp sa spellname:# adds a spell into a specific slot #
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: may have to remove it first before readding it though
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: hey that's cool, thanks :)
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vyhn ) np
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: is there a mapper alias to move without using portals?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mapper walkto
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: ah but doesn't work on area?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: like xrt but without portals?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Xrt only uses portals if you set them
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: yeah. wanted to temp not use them since group
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: why can't i send to script a colournote in timer in mush?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: this is the error message
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: [string "Timer: tmr_concentrate"]:1: invalid escape sequence near '"'
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sounds like a punctuation error.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: how many double-quotes do you have in there?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: but the same colournote works when in a trigger
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: ColourNote("red","white","\>    \>\>   \>\>\>    R    U    N    E    O    F    -    I    X    \<\<\<    \<\<    \<")
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: that is the line
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: just a reminder that i have been ix'd
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thats alot of escapes.  try changing the gt/lt symbols to something you dont have to escape, and see what happens.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you dont need escape for colournote, i bet it'd work just fine without them
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: ok :)
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: or that.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: wow, it worked :) thanks :) just a reminder if i got ix'd :)
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: p.s. you can throw into comm log too, that's where i show my affs so it doesn't disappear with battle scroll
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: how do i enable color copy + paste on mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ctrl-d
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's like ctrl-c but with colors
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: Endymion Tech: that's like ctrl-c but with colors
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: only works on output window though.  comm log has copy w/color if you right click
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: err it defaults to that, or can copy without
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pendrick Tech: so friend downloaded aardwolf on his phone but every time he pulls it up to type he cant see what hes typing.  Hes uninstalled and reinstalled several times.  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Might be the crappy stock keyboard
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Try getting swifty or another similar that works better inside apps
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: is there a local echo setting? haven't used it before
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Like 'echo <text>'? It just shoots the word back out to you to test triggers etc
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i mean on the phone app - i know what local echo is
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: pendrick - i'm not quite clear exatly what issue your friend is having
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah, are you trying to test triggers etc?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pendrick Tech: dont know know very little about the tech stuff.
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're worried about seeing what commands you sent, Algaru, you can turn on echocommands
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pendrick Tech: issue is when he types none of his letters show
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Tell him to try a better keyboard first
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: hah guys i don't need help, i'm trying to help pendrick
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: thanks thoguh
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: what i'm saying is - if your friend is typing and they don't show up, then maybe they need to turn on local echo in the phone app
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Just download swifty off the appstore and see if that works first
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a better keyboard? he's on a phone...
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah, there's thousands of keyboards for phone
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: That replace the stock one I mean
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pendrick Tech: i get what your saying rake
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pendrick Tech: as far as local echo he knows about that kind of stuff so i will mention it
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: The default google keyboard messed up a lot for me in various games, but swifty and others worked perfect
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pendrick: is the issue that the keyboard isn't visible, or that what he's typing as he types isn't visible?
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pendrick Tech: what he types
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then yes, that would be a local echo setting...
T3/r7/2016-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the options page, the service section has local echo
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. is there a way to get the list of the messages when bad affects take hold and wear off/get cured?
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah, cast them on yourself and wait for them to wear off or cast the counter!
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Once you have the list, should post it somehwere I've wanted to do it for a while!
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: what exactly?`
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: maybe its the same that i wanted to do:)
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I wanted to make a little window that showed the bad spells, can do it with basts, but requires changing screens...
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: well. thats exactly the same:P
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: the problemis that those affects dont stick very well..
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: on self
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: is it possible to upgrade to windows 10 from vista ?
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: damn
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you need to upgrade to 7 or 8 and then to 10
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: nods thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: might as well format and do a fresh install imo
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda agrees!
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: OS upgrades are never perfect and doing two is bound to screw something up
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: You need to get rid of windows and run linux :P
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: i bought win 7 off ebay apparently even as legit as it looked etc it was still a illegal copy so i i had to take computer back to vista
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah....best to stick with standard retailers when buying software.
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Win10 is <$100 on Amazon
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: anyone is expert of tintin script?
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovingly, Rumour Tech: I believe abelinc is :)
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Abe is Tinyfugue.
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovingly, Rumour Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: and is online?
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: always
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think Ixle can help with tintin, though I'm not 100% sure.
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Failing getting an actual person at the moment, you can always post to tech board any questions you have.
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: ok thx
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is there a way to stop my S&D from doing both cp c and cp check when I kill a cp mob?
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only doing one of those...you probably have another plugin (one of Bast's) doing the other
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Hm
T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Anyone here use statdb from past?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Anyone here use bast statdb for cp exp toggle?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Or know of a working plugin that will turn off my xp if I don't have a cp that level
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone know a great calendar program for android? the stock one is not bad, i just have so much stuff going on it would be nice to have an app that lets me have a widget that shows only each calendar
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I use Nine.... it is better for me than the stock Microsoft one
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: microsoft one?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: android was the platform asked about...
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: crap Im sorry Hadar, I meant email... just realized you wanted a calendar
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: there are some in the app store, have you checked?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: The stock android calender isn't too bad, if I have anything important I need to remember I use ColorNote
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: yes, android microsoft mail client is what I use
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: not sure i did not want to keep installing/uninstalling my app store does not work correctly (it crashes when i try to search)
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garbanzo Tech: im old school i use the calendar on the wall
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: You can make a note in ColorNote, and add it to the desktop as a widget, pretty neat
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: personally, I am satisfied with the google calendar.
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i wish i could but my work calendar updates on google calendar so it would be weird to carry one around (considering i live my life at my school for the most part)
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Anyone know how to open split screen view on a tablet? :P 
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: on what kind of tablet?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: is it a bad idea, while working from home, to test the ballmer peak?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Depends what you drink lol
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: ive had 3 times those. but you get 1 problem solved. thats all. 
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: then itll be back on flash games
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: http://xkcd.com/323/
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: funny thing, it works for bean sprouts too.
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: gross
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: theres nothing gross about bean sprouts.  with a diet of 10percent ethanol to 90percent water, they make much better programmers.
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is there any way to make S&D run to killing fields instead of adaldar?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: runto killing instead of runto adaldar?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Well it's the xcp really, the mob is like 'flame blob (fields)'
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: So it runs to Battlefields of Adaldar (which is 150+)
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Instead of Killing Fields (60)
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: could be a bad portal entry, bad cexit, odd lockexit. you should become familiar with how to use and manage mapper if you're going to use S&D
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: so when you 'xrt fields' where does it go?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Adaldar
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Because both have fields in the name, so it's just running to adaldar for killing fields mobs too
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: try: 'runto fields' then 'xset mark' and try xrt fields again
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Weird that worked, I swear I did that like 50x already
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh but I didn't xset mark at the very start, just where the mob was
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: xset mark is you telling mapper extender where the very beginning of the area is
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: all it is is a table for each area with a room id# in it. so when you xrt fields, it executes "mapper goto X", X being the room in which you typed "xset mark" for that area
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Gotcha cheers!
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: anyone intimiately familiar with hulu
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I fap to it...I guess that's intimate
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: if i cancel this free trial and subscribe for real, will it let me watch more episodes of this season of gotham than just 8 through 12 or whatever crap its listing for me now
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: This is lame, i want to start with episode 1
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: shouldnt you be sick and sleep?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: I'm on steroids for it now cirion, who can sleep :(
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you have small muscle syndrome?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: anyhow, if like, i can't watch the entire season up to now and not just like last few episodes...screw hulu
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: what a rip off
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: anyone know?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i considered getting hulu trial to check out 11/22/63
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: ok so who here actually is subscribed to hulu
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: if you are, just go search tv for gotham, and tell me how many episodes it lets you see, if its more than just 8-12 thats great, if not, f hulu
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: doesnt that go on netflix too?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: I have no idea
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hey this isnt answer channel, keep your side points to yourself
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: all i know is i got this trial of hulu on the assumption and advice that i could see every episode this season
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: but uhhh, at least for the trial thats not true, i want to konw if its true for subscribing too
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: Gotham right? its on Netflix
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: Well are they gonna give me a free trial
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion bonks Adhesive Cirion on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: and let me see all of season 2
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: only season 1 there for me
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: well I just watched season 1 so that definitely doesnt help me
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: I do believe that maybe its because i'm trial limited
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: With your Hulu subscription you can watch 5 episodes the day after air in HD on your TV, mobile and computer
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is not because you're trial limited
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: so maybe if i pony up dough they let me watch all 12 this season?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: well whats' the deal then
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the episodes weren't on yesterday?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they carry current season
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: right, current season, i want to see the current season, starting from episode 1, not episode 8.
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: it doesnt have that, however.  just episode 8 on
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you have a time machine?
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: I have a couple time machines
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: problem solved
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: ... t o r r e n t ...
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: meanwhile, i got this hulu trial and am completely turned off from hulu now and will definitely not subscribe
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nothing that is a good price is good
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if there wasnt a gimmick then someone wouldnt be making money off it
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: its not so much that its a gimmick
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: its that everyone keeps tellin me they have the current season available to watch on hulu
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even without the trial, if you go to the gotham page, it gives the message "5 episodes available with subscription"...so it was saying that "with a subscription, there are 5 episodes available", it wasn't saying "with your current level of scription there are 6 episodes available"
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: which is a lie, theyh have PART of the current season.
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: ok so that answers it then, if you didnt watch the first 7 when they aired or shortly therafter, your sol with hulu.
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: so much for that idea
T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: for everything netflix doesn't have... kat.cr
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: so what useful info can i try to snag when my comp blue screens?
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Stop using windows?
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nothing you couldn't really pull from the event logs.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well, does it tell you why it's crashing? :p
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, that's a jackass answer, Emeris.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're not gonna help, just keep quiet.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: it says something about hardware but it goes by so fast I cant catch much
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I was just jokin' sheesh
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ok yeah event log time
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: and how do I pull that up?
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: is it possible my ram could cause bluescreens? sorry if thats a stupid question
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Event Viewer.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bad ram could yeah
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's entirely possible, yes
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Arci: I just type "event" into the start menu bar :p
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not just bad RAM, but improperly seated RAM, etc.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: any peice of hardware in there if it's  bad could cause it
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why often people will suggest taking out one of the sticks ot test...then taking out the other (and putting the first one back)
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Raded: That works, too. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: maybe im just hopeful its my ram cus on this laptop cant reallyc hange much else
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also tell the PC to not auto-reboot, which will leave the bluescreen up for you to read/snapshot
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Default setting is for Windows to auto-restart upon system crashes.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: administrative tools? im on win 7 i dont even see that
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends on how you have your control panel set up.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click my computer, properties, advanced system settings
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/help-troubleshoot-the-blue-screen-of-death-by-preventing-automatic-reboot/
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wars: Winkey+R, type eventvwr
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: crap i literally just bluescreened twice since my last msg
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: thanks for the link
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: can ram issues cause overheating?
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: maybe if it shorts out and is on fire but then the overheating would be the smaller problem
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: k
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Kodi for the win when it comes to media sources.... google it if you dont know what it is.... 
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all day today I have problem with connection (Europe) - is it only me? ping aardmud.org has then quite often 100% loss, traceroute stops at 173.192.18.132 so it is missing next hop 173.192.18.136 (ae20.bbr01.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com)
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: tis you
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: can someone help me fix my sharptracker?
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how badly it is broken ?
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: it reports when i level but for any other thing it throuws out orange script
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: omg. win7 - click start and move the cursor to "all programs>"
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and wait..
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Aldehyde use pastebin to paste error from sharptracker http://pastebin.com/
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: got a clannie to help out... thanks though :)
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its not too hard to create your own tracking triggers. even if you have only very basic coding skills. big plus is that its all custom:p
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's why I made my quest tracker a themed custom tracker. You can stylize it the way you want. :P
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Colors, even report strings. :D
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yeah. its fun. i did my combat/pup stats. colorful, much data. mostly useless:)
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I /need/ to go back to the tracker and add levels/pups and combat and stuff. Fully customizable. Just been working on other things in the meantime, like job searching, whee.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne needs new jobs.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: do you work for tps? i need a bot
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: [Melvin]: Bots are bad mmkay?
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne slaps Melvin.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades slaps Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: ok so supposedly hal.dll and ntoskrnl.exe are causing my blue screens... and thoughts?
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: and=any
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: delete them?
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a bunch of hits come up searching for hal.dll blue screen fix
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose I'd try what they say
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: does the portal functionality of mushclient mapper take tiers into account when setting portal level?
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mapper help portals - 
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: > Do not manually account for tiers
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: ah, missed that one
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: many people are not focused on pk
T3/r7/2016-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: how do I found out where aard world deets save to when I hit ctl-s ??
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: deets?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: world details =?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: ya know' the deets man. somewhere in global preferences maybe?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: I know default folder is mush/worlds/aard or something
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: File -> Save World Details As ... will show you location and filename
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: oh. so if I save world details to a different folder then default, it will automatically save to the new folder chosen?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: probably if you're running with that new world file open. Global preferences specifies which files are opened at startup
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: ok, I have a blinky light everytime my flash drive is working. now after I've saved details there, everytime I ctrl-s it saves to new spot. amirite? seems so
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: yeah, until you restart mush when it'll read that global preference, so make sure your new location is in there
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: ah... that seemed to be what I thought was a problem, will need to change global pref to open from flash
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: good deal, ty
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: you also could've just copied the whole mushclient dir to your flash drive and ran it from there
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: but whatever works
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: anyway to s
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: (mushclient) anyway to customize individual room colors in gmcp mapper? terrain textures have some options, but how bout each little box, you know?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: ctrl-shift-9 opens alias's, is there another hotkey/macro to hit the 'Add' button without clicking? I noticed the 'A' in add is underlined...
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ccan you add a delay into triggers?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy to have the trigger set a one-shot timer to execute what you want
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's doafterspecial if you need to do weird stuff internally
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh thanks, I'll check that out
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Does one-shot actually delete the trigger, or does it make it execute only once?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think it disables it until something re-enables it, but I could be wrong.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: deletes
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: or not
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I can't figure out why my trigger is executing twice on one trigger
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what is the trigger?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Nm I'm dumb, just figured it out ._.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, the context-sensitive help in MUSHclient is really good...if you're in a trigger definition window and click help, the file that opens up will say what all of the checkboxes, etc. do...for one-shot, it says If checked, once this trigger fires, it is deleted.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is there any way to use aliases in DoAfter() script? Keeps saying Unknown command even though I use the alias a lot
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: SendCommand?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or soemthing of that sort?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah I tried, but it just keeps sending 0
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have the trig make a one-shot timer, don't use doafter
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doafter is send to world
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah, Have to look into how to do that, never used one shot timer
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Use DoAfterSpecial(2, 'Execute("alias")', 12)
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: AddTimer()
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, Execute was the one I was thinking of
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doafterspecial is really meant for situations where a trigger has to modify the function running it
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The DoAfterSpecial is a bit more neat than the timer, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Won't argue with that. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's more neat, it's just not really appropriate for 95% of triggers (like this one)
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah that worked perfect, thanks :)
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bad programming practice IMO
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The problem is: DoAfterSpecial's helpfile specifically says this: This routine adds an unlabelled, temporary, one-shot timer, set to go off after the designated number of seconds. 
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does, that's the mechanism which it uses
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Furthermore: The purpose of this is simplify the frequent case of simply wanting to do something in a few seconds, rather than using AddTimer.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's calling AddTimer
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I know that. I'm just pointing out that Nick qualifies it as a simpler way than having to do script routines or using AddTimer. It's really no different than writing your own function to handle AddTimer.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: function timeme(blah) AddTimer(stuff blah stuff) end  :p
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And in 95% of the cases, probably better to stick with simplicity rather than complexity or "proper programming", as it were. *shrug*
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only because I don't think 95% of the people are into hardcore scripting anyway.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wouldn't need to add your own function to call addtimer...you'd just call addtimer rather than calling doafterspecial
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, if I use AddTimer quite a bit, and always the same amount of seconds, I'll write a function to execute what it needs to do rather than copy/paste AddTimer 100 times. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But then again, I'm weird and OCD like that.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd do that same thing for doafterspecial as well...
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oddly enough, the code for doafterspecial does not call addtimer.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it should, but it doesn't
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can see it here: https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient/blob/master/scripting/methods/methods_timers.cpp#L453
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, interesting (that's what i get for assuming he'd do it the way it'd make sense to me to do it :P)...so it essentially copies the routine rather than calling it?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: addtimer is in the same file about 300 lines up
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are all kinds of obvious low hanging fruit for cleaning up the code in MUSHclient. that's one of them. I tell myself that one day I'll go and make pull requests for some of them myself, but, you know, once I'm not trying to do something else
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: something else like making a good ascii meme generator!
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I wonder if people use pull requests in other contexts to mean something else...
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Biker issued a pull request to your mom last night
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oops.. shouldn't say that out loud.. thinking out loud again
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I request you pull over, says the cop
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: shhhhh biker!
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull_my_finger
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: if I want to chnage my laptop? how do I transfer my muchclient ? can i just copy the much client folder ? will it ensure all data related mapper and other settings will be copied over?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: Mushclient*
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: Mushclient
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: copy the folder
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: everything is in that folder
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: ok thanks !!
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unless you have plugins loaded from elsewhere..
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: very nice ...
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which you shouldn't
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: nope everything is contained in the folder
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: the folder based mushclient port to a different laptop got me thinking... if I create a mushclient folder in onedrive. I can technically play from any device where I have my onedrive mapped... is that right?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As long as you quit between sessions.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Quit and close out, that is.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: the folder based mushclient port to a different laptop got me thinking... if I create a mushclient folder in onedrive. I can technically play from any device where I have my onedrive mapped... is that right?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah Ablu, that's what I do, good for backup too
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Like I said, only if you quit and close out MUSh.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Otherwise, you might get sharing violations.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah yeah, I never leave mush open when I'm done
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: yes yes ofcourse ... 
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: same here I close it
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: ok this is good 
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Happened with me and Dropbox. I always have MUSH running. But wanted to log in from work one day. Got into my Dropbox, and bam, had nothing, because it couldn't access it on MUSH already running.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: awesome thanks guys !! you just made my move a different laptop super easy
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Technology did that. We just told you how.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is there any way to fix S&D hunt trick? It seems to randomly just stop working
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not sure what causes it, so i just made an alias to reload the plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh didn't think of that
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: What do you type to reload it? after plugins reload etc
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: save youa minute:  ReloadPlugin("e50b1d08a0cfc0ee9c442001")
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Damn mind reader
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sendto Script
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: That's reloads the plugin, but still not using HT, hmm
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you still using the one from winklewinkle? it's got the old hunt messages for lower-prac hunt...
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Not sure, just WinkleWinkle_Search_Destroy_2_8
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: it's saying like "you have no idea what you're doing, maybe mob is east?"
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: But it still used to do ht
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the issue i have is that it just stops responding.  you can 'ht something' and it does nothing
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah sort of the same, it never goes past 1.mob
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ah sounds like Biker might be onto something then
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hte message you get is maybe mob left east, not is east
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It says 'You have no idea what you're doing, but maybe a black dragon hatchling is north?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: But, it's always said that till lvl 68 for me, and still used to do hunt trick fine
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Now it just keeps stopping at 1.mob
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: there's a fix for that...
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: yeha, just tier a bunch, solved my problems :b
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Does hunt trick not work without hunt then? I could of swore it did
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "left" one is what S&D is using
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It DOES.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just a bit slower...
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it does work, but the plugin is coded for certain (old) messages
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the problem is just that S&D is several years old, and the hunt messages have since been updated mudside
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That should be a super easy thing to change.
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: is there any plugins for mapper on blowtorch?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: it is, there's a note 6947 and 6948 on the tech board...
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phy: there are for the beta version
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: ooo
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: v2?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod...dunno how widely released the mapper plugin is, though, because it was a real resource hog
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nokfah has the updated version on the same page as the extender/mapper fix
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll have to look around in the forums
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: what note again
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: the notes I gave were for the hunt trick fix...
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: somone told me a note for blowtorxh beta
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think there's a note for the blowtorch beta, you should look at the blowtorch forums online...bt.happygoatstudios.com
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: i saw the previews just wonder if there is a maper plugin thst would work with blowtorch
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: If anyones curious, the note mentioned earlier worked perfect
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rake enthusiastically high-fives Emeris!
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: guess not lol
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: wish i knew how to design one lol
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: One what? didn't see messages :p
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: does any plugin work with blowtorch besides chat
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: aggg i want a mapper so bad 
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's stopping you from having one?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy answer to that is to use a real computer :P
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: tablet play
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or use your phone to connect to a real computer
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can run a linux instance in amazon for under $5/month
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: mine broke
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: wtb: c++ knolage
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: bah cant type
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: google.com
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: *grumble*
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: stupid android
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: should have got a windows tab lol
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: left testical for android mapper
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: used to drive my intro unix instructor nuts. used grep for checking permissions, checking file types, seeing who else was online...
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't drive any instructor nuts, it's quite often the right tool for the job
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wanna look for a particular thing, searching is how to do it
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: i give up cant find one lol i want to design my own rawr
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: is there a way to set up another window in blowtorch to capture map ?
T3/r7/2016-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: Any recommendations for a USB wireless network interface that plays well with linux?
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know how to change the color of channel text in the comm log?
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why would you do that?
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can just use colorstat and change the color mudside.
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: colorset*
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cool thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: didn't know that existed honestly
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Anyone out there have an alt on MUSH that operates on a different profile and can switch who is able to show me how? My main has portals and well, I am afraid to purge.
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naughty Neji Tech: Hey all. I am a phone user. I am using the Huawei P8 lite. Using the blowtorch cclient. He is not so compatible. Does anyone else know of a client that works beter,?
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: hi phone user..that is awesome
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: I'm having an issue with the miniwin_tabwin plugin. I toggled the tab on it and cannot get the tab back and the window is locked into position, even after reinstalling.
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: is there a command I can send to the mud to delay my next action by a second or two? if so what is it?
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not that I'm aware of. You could script something up in your client to queue up a command and send it after a delay, maybe with a timer or something..
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I need it to be mudside. No worries. I'll just do it the long way (manually every time) it's not too hard
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why does it need to be mudside?
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: are the forums on Gammon's website the best resource for learning more about scripting in MUSH?
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: depends what you want to know, but it's likely
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: his site isn't just forums. it's forums and extensive documentation
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: basics, how to get an alias or trigger to work with a timer. or how to do anything with variables, for example :p
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'd look at some sample code
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you have particular questions, a good place to start is these three pages: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Aliases   https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Macros   https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Triggers   https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-Variables
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did I say three? this is why all my scripts fail
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's three if you start numbering at 0
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded thanks The Jerk Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: those pages are mostly kinda curated lists of pages on gammon's site
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is there a way to reset the windows in MUSHclient? For some reason I do not understand my "main" window has just gone full screen, covering all the others
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: okay, well, it appears to have dropped all of my aardwolf plugins, which explains something. Confusing.
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: does anyone have experience with migrating eqsets data to a new install of mushclient ?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gotta migrate MUSH's log folder.
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: how do i migrate map comments to the new version ?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: check the aardwiki. There is a section on upgrading the client
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: wrong me. it is on the aard website
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: the bottom of the page where you can download the client
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aegeon Tech: Does anyone use the Mudlet client?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: currently 3 mudlet users online
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: Question, I started my Mushclient and I rec'd an error saying I don't have a valid xml signature
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: any idea what this problem is?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lews: post more information
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: l
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: any idea how to easily check whether item in table is unique ?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean lua table
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You mean whether it exists in the table or not?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whether it is duplicated
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have a table mobsinroom , so now I am iterating through mobsinroom.name and want just find unique mobs
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but without next foreach
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I want something like: for i,v in ipairs (mobsinroom) do nameindex = table.index(mobsinroom.name), if i == nameindex then (first occurence)
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Let me look through my code in a few.
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so actually I want to get index of first item in table that matches criteria
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah, the way I do it is a "mobcount" table that stores the mob with a counter. Then it iterates over the main table, and each time it finds it, it adds 1 and then adds the counter plus mobname to my actual table.
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So, mine is mobcount = {} for _,v in ipairs(moblist) do if mobcount[v] then mobcount[v] = mobcount[v]+1 table.insert(mobs, mobcount[v].v) else mobcount[v] = 1 table.insert(mobs, mobcount[v].v) end
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you can use a similar format to determine if it's a duplicate.
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: can you transfer you S&D mapper between Mushclients?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Just put your mushclient folder in onedrive
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Then you can use it anywhere
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: But you should be able to transfer the plugin alone
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: when i'm in fight each time i get prompt i can use an attack? i'm asking since sometime i get some "attack whom?" message after fight end 
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: You can use a skill/spell, and get auto attack
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: You have to be in combat to use like "bash", otherwise outside of combat it's "back <target>"
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: ok so as soon as i see "Fighting" prompt i can use a special attack until combat end?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah, if you're attacking a mob, or it's attacking you, you can just use "bash", or "trip" etc
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: To start a fight, you can use "bash <target>", or "k <target>"
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: do some attack require more than a turn to be cast?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Not that I've seen
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: round i mean
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: ok thx
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: egrimm, you start a fight by typing "backstab target" and then while fighting type "black"
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you *should*
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: guess i'm being "that guy", but 'newbie' channel would be a much better place than 'tech' for the topic :D
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: sorry crashed
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: anyway i 1st use backstab, then black and last i spam dirt until end of fight
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: i confirm that if i cast a spell or skill  for each time i see a combat prompt like "[Fighting....> i see alot of "Dirt kick whom?" at the end of fight
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: while if i wait to see "You kicked dirt...." message and then i use again "dirt" skill then it works fine
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: the game will try to dirt kick as many times as you've sent the command
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: if you sent 5 dirt kicks, but it only took 3 to kill the target, the final 2 will still be sent but you're not in combat anymore
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: exact, but i cant use each time i see a promt...since it appear that u may have more prompt in 1 round of combat
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: there is any way to use same command without spam it each time i see a prompt?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: type it less?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: alias it and tell it not to output
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrimm Tech: about type it less, in that case maybe i loose a round of combat while that skill could make difference between life or death
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use a different skill every now and then
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how to reset the gui?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which?
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: to reset the window in mush
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: resetaard resets MUSH layout. xset reset gui resets S&D.
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Win 10 is trying to force me to upgrade!  HELP
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have Win 7
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Don't do it!
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: turn off the updates
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that annoying pop up just told me i got 55 minutes until the fun is over
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: and get rid of update #KB3035583
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heck i removed that update, and it came back
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now im afraid i cant stop the process
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they keep re-releasing the update and bumping its priority
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: you  have manually choose your updates to keep them from doing that
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: tech sites have been warning about that for more than a year now
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or join a domain ;-)
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: it's windows attempt to keep up with viral technology
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just stopped updating because so many of them are telemetry and forced upgrade.
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's actually easier to say "I'll flatten and reinstall if I get pwned" than it is to vet each of the updates
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: I've just turned them off, and I mostly ignore them
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: you can set the windows update to notify but not apply
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: whew, there was a convoluted way to cancel the upgrade thru that window
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: I don't want them to download anything without my knowing what it does anymore
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: time to turn off updates i guess
T3/r7/2016-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: there is a setting for that. I turned the downloads off and let McAfee inform me if any updates.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: anyone can help me with an issue with bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: what are my choices here
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: zero and none
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: my dvd drive apparently says its working fine, but
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: when i put in a dvd to install a game (tried several dif ones)
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: it wont autoplay ,and if i right click it to autoplay it crashes windows explorerr
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: driver up to date
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: is it just busted?
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: searching net found nothing like my problem at all
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: is there a way to make mushclient mapper runto beginning of areas besides manually making runto room number aliases?
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah, xset mark art the starg
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: at*
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: rake that is S&D related I think not mapper
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: People need to quit assuming everyone uses S&D.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or learn the difference between mapper and S&D.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I don't even know what's what :(
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Jormungandr: Not really, unless you create your own script to mark the beginnings of areas. That's what 'runto' effectively does, though. Runs to the area's beginning; just doesn't have anything to do with mapper.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The advantage of using the mapper is that it can take advantage of portals and clan exits, shortcuts, etc.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure, runto will get you there, but it might take the scenic route.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Do you not like S&D or something?
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah, could of swore I saw somewhere that wis increases all buffs slightly
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bah, io.popen is not implemented in MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Can't figure out why unpack is displaying only one result in a table with two indexes...
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is it a name/value pair or flat table?
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ooh, indexed table. Hmm.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: e.g. this gives "1" only:  local tbl = {"1",["test2"]="2"} print(unpack(tbl))
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right. No, it's local tbl = {"string one", "string two", "string three"}
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And doing it that way works. But.. hmm.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm that works for me
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: When I tprint the table, it displays 2 indices, but still only unpacks one.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, even weirder still is that if I do it from the command line, it works, but not from the script. Time to dig into the script!
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: I am assuming that ["test2"] is a key?
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: so youa re using a table as key, may I ask why?
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nested tables are wonderful things.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: never mind that, I was wrong.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not relevant to my problem, though. He was just giving an example.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: it's not at table though :)
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i guess you can do ["test2"] or test2 and they both work
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im quirky
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: right, that threw me for a sec.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: yuou can even do "test2", but test2 is syntatic sugar.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i get errors without the brackets
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it seems to expect it to be a value and not a key
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: you shouldn't get an error, your example can be re-written as tbl={"1",table2="2"}
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i mean the key will not work with "just" quotes
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He means the key has to be either table2, or ["table2"], but not just "table2"
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: you are right, it's either [] or the syntatic sugar.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: I suppose that means that strings cannot be table indices.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: or rather, table keys.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: so you need to put ["key"] = or the equivalent key =
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, disappointing that MUSH doesn't incorporate io.popen. Bah.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: me too
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gonna have to go with os.execute(command "> file")
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 58ms Avg: 59ms Max: 62ms}
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bah.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, it works, ha.
T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So spotty, though. Last read was 183ms avg.
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: Run-time error Plugin: eqSets (called from world: Aardwolf) Immediate execution ...rs\Fun\Dropbox\dropmush\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\eqdb.lua:1536: attempt to index local 'item' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: that's after i type 'eqset putset 171'
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: why
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: anyone using swalec speedwalk plugin?
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: does anyone know anything about tt++ client. I am trying to create alias for keys for n,s,w,e, but I am not sure w key strokes to use
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: I am on mac
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: alias or macro?  And what keys?
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: #MACRO {INSERT CODE FOR ARROWS} {north} is all I got so far
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: When you press 'left arrow' on a mac what are the actual ANSII characters?
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: let me rephrase. When I press 'left arrow' on my keyboard how does my computer know that it is the left arrow key? I know my mac sends a special set of characters for F1 it is[11~
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: let me rephrase. When I press 'left arrow' on my keyboard how does my computer know that it is the left arrow key? I know my mac sends a special set of characters for F1 it is "back_slash"e[11~
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah not sure how to figure that out, usuallly  I just press it and it shows on screen, but since arrows already do something...
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://www.cambiaresearch.com/articles/15/javascript-key-codes -- that help any?
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Easier to look up keyboard mapping codes.
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/keypad.php ?
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah that works for keypad, oh wait it might be same code...
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://web.archive.org/web/20100501161453/http://www.classicteck.com/rbarticles/mackeyboard.php -- that's shows for mac, too.
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think these are actually the codes you want: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19065-01/servers.12k/816-5328-11/cfgunixterm.html
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Search for up arrow.  I've never actually tried to macro it though, so may not work since it has a default behavoir...
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torriel Tech: anyone know how i can make mudrammer do "treat torriel" by entering something like "ppp"?
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can anyone suggest a good hosting service
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hosting for what?
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: two domains
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, there are lots, if you just want the domains. At heart, you need to do the analysis and look at the costs. I've just started using planethippo which is working out okay.
T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Anyone have personal experience with the phone/tablet client? I put it on my phone and created the button aliases but whenever I touched the buttons they didnt want to respond
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: can anyone help me setup aardwolf_regen from the bast suite
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: did anyone get the regen script working from bast ? 
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i want mn alias such that when I type kill ghost groom, I send kill 'ghost groom' with the single quotes instead, since kill ghost groom sends kill ghost which can make me attack a ghost bride.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i do such an alias, especially when kill is assigned to a server-side alias itself?
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: I could tell you how if you were using mudlet. But you're probably not.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: aardmush, sorry
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: i use something similar in mush
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: setup an alias kill *
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: command: backstab '%1'
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: select send to world
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: should work
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: awesome!
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: wait.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: i gather it works :)
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i think it doesn
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: when i type 'k' on its own
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: but when I type k   with a space in front of k
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: ignore that
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i forgot the asterisk
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: it works!
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: your welcome
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: my welcome! I love my welcome.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: whats the command to reset the gui for search and destroy?
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: thx i need to write that down
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it is in ww help
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is there a way to choose by default where programs install? currently they try to install to my Z drive, but i want to change it
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: a discussion on carpets :)
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: mis!
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: anybody here into electronics repair / hobby and know anything about MOSFETS ?
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What about them?
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: did you let the magic smoke out? 'cause if so, theres nothing more to know.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Stripped a retired UPS for parts and it has a lot of MOSFET power transistors in it.  I know they're ESD sensitive, but *how* ESD sensitive, that I don't know.  What kind of static does it take to kill one?
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I didn't, it was a dumpster fine so I knew it was bad, but what happened is that the battery leaked and shorted to one of the switching transistors and blew it up.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: The rest of the board was fine and I got a good autotransformer, some caps, and a bunch of relays out of it so am happy with that
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: just curious if the MOSFETS might still be good.  I'm guessing they're hosed.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: they should be testable, i would think.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Usually when a mosfet fails it lets fire out dramatically. If it LOOKS ok it probably is. You can test it with a meter, though.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: eh, results are not encouraging.  Apparently they should read as open circuit until you apply current to the gate, but these read as short no matter what.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sure they are mosfets? like, verified part numbers?
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I'm guessing they're probably hosed, just wondering because if they are I'll throw them out and save some space in my parts box
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: yes, they are power MOSFETS, IFR840
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Er, IRF
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: tested.  failed.  'nuff said.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: IFR = instrument flight rules, I keep mixing that up ;)
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I figured, I was reading that one should be grounded, and store them in conductive bags but I've done none of that
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: its only embarassing after like, the 6th time.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: heh.  have mainly just worked with bipolar transistors and simple voltage regs, light flashers, etc.  nothing impressive.  but it's still pretty cool to see it in action and to read about what is going on to make it do that.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: electrons are amazing little critters :)
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus smirks.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: its all about the quantum.  which is to say, 'magic smoke is not a joke'.
T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: unless you're putting a microwave transformer across it just for giggles.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: is there a problem with the tech channel?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: which, interestingly, begin to saturate at 80 volts on the primary, the things do not like to be run at full mains voltage at all.  oh well, thanks for info :)
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: there's all kinds of problems with the tech channel hehe
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I'm also concerned that biker is nowhere to be seen in tech -h
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: tech seems to be ok, but immtalk imploded.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris cringes in terror!
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: on*
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: No Biker? That's concerning indeed
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: immtalk is a singularity, it will be imploding forever ;)
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I wish I had more free time, I would stream of consciousness here more often
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and it always will have been going to.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: honestly, the tech channel is the most conversational right now on my channels :P
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: maybe he's playing with his tamagotchi
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: cough* racetalk cough*
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: stream of consciousness
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Have you guys seen ex machina? I am thinking of building one of those. Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: no one talks on my race apparently :P
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: like some of skinny puppy's lyrics
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just order a realdoll and save yourself a lot of time
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shellfishie Tech: don't? ex machina was creepy as hell
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: stick with w-machina, the extra angles will help counteract some otherwise unbalanced rotational forces.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I guess I could go try and do it myself, but its better to just talk about it here
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: O mannec u r genius
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: yes, yes, bask in my glory.  just be sure to wipe it off afterwards, its rather lively and very much does not like the human skeleton.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Ex machina was about machine AI
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: And involved a turing test
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Did you know that Alan Turing was also the man who proposed morphogens for developmental patterning?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I had to take a typing test
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Wow, he founded branches of mathematics, computer science, and biology
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: What a nerd!
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: alan turing was a sinner!
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i cannot type
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: this is just my AI typing for me
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: such evil sins
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I have a naked nubian doing my typing
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: help morphogen doesnt exist.  prolly not a thing, then.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: OK you win
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: More impressive
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec raises his hand.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: whats a nubian?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I have another one waving cool air at me
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: somthing else does the talkin for me
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Can I build an ex machina to do that too?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: How come when I type 'portal' it comes out 'wear get all'
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: potentially
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: help echocommands
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: is that also part of your AI?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: this doesnt seem appropriate for the tech channels
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: portals my ass
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: oh no
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: added ex machine to netflix list
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: my AI has run out of things to say
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i must leave now
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus laughs out loud at Barbafappa Pleiades.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo at Quadrapus.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: be prepared for sex robots
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: oo
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: like a kitchen aid?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i think it comes with that attachment yes
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades prods you into action!
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: how about brandish huh
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i am brandishing my AI
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I also suggest a lag on portals
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: they had a good run, but ultimately couldnt stick the landing in the playoffs.  cant wait to see how they do in post-season, tho.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: that ex machine movie has me intrigued now
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: which part
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: also, apple's cables are about as good as security in #benghazi
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: so I am going to buy a nexus
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: haha
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: no s7?!
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: and have google watch my every move
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I dont like samsung
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: actually
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: too shiny?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I dont like korean copy cat products
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: cars, phones, ...
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i do not like racists, pleiades
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: shame on you
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I need a phone designed by alessi
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: hey.. I have a nubian here
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: your argument is invalid
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ok fair point
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I actaully have 2
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i do not like greedy people, pleiades
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: shame on you
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: well
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I could only buy the bulk package
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i feel like Biker really should be here
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: he should be
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I really wonder what he's doing now
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I wonder if some buzzwords would trigger his arrival
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: #linux
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: windows for workgroups
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i imagine his daily activities are limited to a small subset of possibilities, tech channel being one of the primary choices
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: How come my S&D won't run from Between Time and Space in ruins? Says can't find path, when it's like 1w
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: its a maze area, the exits keep changing, thats why
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: the exits are randomized every repop
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah gotcha
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Well damn, that hardly seems useful now lol
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: yea, delete s&d!!! its useless :)
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You said it's 1 room away, you really can't find that on your own?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: well just make a mapper note in the room of which room name is which level
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Huh, of course I can find it on my own, didn't realize this room was a maze though
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Mazes are more fun
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: how do I get to kimr's farm
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: You can try to write a script to solve the maze
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I suggest a wall follower algorithm
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper goto 10668
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Or perhaps Pledge algorithm
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gildartz Tech: how can i get out in the maze of gauntlet
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Maybe Tremaux's algorithm if you like fancy names
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: that doesnt sound very american
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I dont like it
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i agree
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: foreigners... they must be sent away
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: the Eagle's algorithm
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: YES
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: leads you to the land of the free
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Kimr's farm?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: and the brave
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades glares at Canada.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus roars in victory over his fallen enemy.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: Whenever I have eqdb plugin on and type "inv", i get "Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory" for each line of my inventory
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i fix this
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: Try 'tags inv on'. Just guessing.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: not working
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: No idea then, sorry.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe it's shortflags
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you should talk to the guy who made it
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: not shortflags either
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it just depends on what format he's expecting your output to be
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: we are?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: has the "(Old)" label been there for ever or is it new?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: it's been there since you cast sense age
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmm, curious, I've had that since level 1. Does it get more effective over time?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: no, it should show any mob that's old enough.  there can be ones that are old enough to give age exp but not old enough to show as old
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: curious -- surprised I haven't been paying attention enough to see it for the last 50 levels, but that's the obvious explanation
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovingly, Rumour Tech: I believe that is called middle aged, and everyone, even the mobs, are always in denial about that stage of life!!
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yep, that sounds like a good explanation to me
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: hello, is there a support for android app from play store?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I think tech just covers everything
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: ask your question, dreamhaze :)
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: there's no official "support" here but you can ask your question and people will try to help
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: I have this problem with android app, whenever I touch the screen outside of settings to scroll text it scrolls up instantly as if I presses Page Up or somethingy
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: makes scrolling down a pain
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: as if I pressed Page Up or something like that*
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: 1) Which Android app (there's a couple) 2) Are you touching the scroll bar
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: Aardwolf RPG app from play store, can't touch scroll bar here, it's just for orientation it seems
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: hi.  i am playing on s
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i sm pl
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: ...huwha?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i sm playing on an android, and my screen is uncontrollable when i scroll theriugh
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Dreamhaze was saying the same thing. Wondering if the app has a broken build.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: also i have a bunch of blue bubbles that all read label.  it makes reading difficult.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: same problem it seems
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: Ive had problems withthe aardwolf app before... try using blowtorch instead
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: where do i get blowtorch?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, some of the pre-built scripts on the Aard package is questionable. More usable with a raw BT build
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: basically the same thing but I had less prob with blowtorch
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: it's the same app, just lacks the aardwolf-specific scripts
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: just type it in the search in the app store
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: you might have to type in aard connect info but thats easy
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: aardmud.org port 4000
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: alright, I'll try that one
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SsuperBig SlyZoR Tech: google download blowtorce test 2 , and click on happygoatsudios link
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: You re-posted to the right channel, but left all the funky typos? :P
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SsuperBig SlyZoR slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: are you sure about port 4000 though? aardwolf shows 7777
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: its 23
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SsuperBig SlyZoR Tech: 4000 workx
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: help ports shows:
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: help ports, it's supports 23, 4000, and 4010.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: aardmud.org ( 66.228.127.34 )  port 23, 4000, or 4010
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades called JINX before Asperger's Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I've been typing "#ses aard aardmud.org 4000" for over a decade ...pretty sure about it :P
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: alright, thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: ok, blowtorch seems to work much better, but crashes when trying to access font change
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: get v2
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: get v2
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: You're using an old version
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: it's v2
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=285
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: well, it's different from that topic, I can't even access the menu of fonts
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: I'll just stick with this one
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamhaze Tech: thanks for the help by the way
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know how to force update the mapper's current room (like if you're changing rooms before currently executing script finishes)?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mapper showroom #
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that would be the answer to "does anyone know how to find out what room I'm in?"
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper thisroom?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: thatroom?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mapper allrooms
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't know the room #, if I knew that I'd just write it into the script
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the mapper seems to think I'm in the room I started in when the script started executing
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: have the gmcp broadcast update your room# variable
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have an alias to create a portal, but it always creates it with destination of the room I started in, not the room I'm in when it ends
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any plugins required to do that? not familiar with the gmcp broadcast
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: the mapper functions that create portal entries assume that you are at the portal destination
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you are using AardMush its enabled by default - GMCP Handler
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Create the portal after using the portal...easy solution.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can use DoAfterSpecial, etc...
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, except I can't do it in one alias then
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure you can.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how would DoAfterspecial work in here?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well suppose it's easier to do with two aliases, but either way you can do it.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have a portal helper plugin if you want it.  it employs a do_portal_egine function that is typically touted as the best way to do it
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: all you do to add a portal is:  mapper portal do_portal_engine portalID#
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: p.s. it works with/without portal wish
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the plugin remembers your current hold/dual wield, and re-does that after portal
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's what mine does :P
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well mine works!  HA
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just having trouble with this bit :P
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haha true
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: your engine should just be "get portal, wear portal, enter"
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my engine?!
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: your function
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my malfunction... ok
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so your mapper calls that function
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so integrating another plugin with my own script isn't really the answer I'm looking for.. I'm looking for a clean way to do it myself
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: basically, mapper would then Execute:  do_portal_engine portalID#
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the function does the fun bits.  like everyone else said, you must not be adding your portal correctly if you think you need a timer or whatever
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm gonna give SendAfterSpecial a shot
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: What you're gonna do is give me double exp
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: somehow
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: k that worked
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: thanks Mendaloth I think?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why in the world would you need a delay??
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and thanks to everyone else who helped me do that
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: callback logic
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you are not using mapper correctly
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so with a callback it's got a new execution environment (call stack, etc.) update happens naturally in the interim I think
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: your mom isn't using it correctly
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why do you need a callback?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: because, firing in one script makes it think I'm still where I was when the script started
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: a portal is basically a cexit, which should not need any more logic after executing it
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Rather than defining a portal from the destination, he's definining it elsewhere, having it go through the portal, and THEN updating the room. I think.
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: should and does are two different things, I didn't write the mapper :P
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you are cuckoo for cocoa puffs
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so he is using mapper wrong :P
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yes, Metria is correct
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: whatever, i concede
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: enjoy your hodgepodge
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: no I'm creating an alias that creates a mapper portal entry.. nothing wrong with that
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you are doing it unnecessarily
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you add a portal at the destination
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone ever tell you you're cute when you argue?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's not convenient
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm cute all the time
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I manually do all the portal stuff, then fire my alias?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: why not just do my alias and have it all done?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not convenient?  you only add a portal 1 time
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What does your alias bring to the table?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my alias now does "makePortal [portal name] [container name]" and the rest is all figured out for me
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: I have that same alias...and it's without callbacks or any trickery of the sort
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's not trickery.. lol
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: That wasn't my point
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: your "trickery" is you use a plugin you don't know how it works
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you are adding unnecessary complication.  enter the portal and use the rest if you "must" alias it
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: entering the portal is extra stuff I shouldn't have to do, it's an alias for god's sake.. why would I use include manual steps to make it work?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you are basically aliasing an alias.  derp
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: alias inception?
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm sorry Endymion but I'm not aliasing an alias, I'm not sure where you came up with that.. if you'd like to win an already dead argument, I can go ahead and concede that you obviously have the best plugin and there's no need for me to write any of this myself
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: k, thx all
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: (just the last part)
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: What Endymion says is right
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: His plugin is amazing, I use it
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: me too
T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Not sure if it's technically the best, but it serves every purpose I needed from it xD
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: Is there any way to get a notification/tag whenever your command queue is emptied?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you can stack a command at the end
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like echo
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: Huh. Obvious in retrospect. Thanks.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: can mush be made to open links from channels automatically?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you mean links to interwebs?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: the usual kinds
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I guess so. I know mine does open them when I click on them. Or did you mean open them even without clicking on them?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: without clicking yes
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oww, that I do not know, sorry
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: is it possible to make a mapper goto as part of a cexit? ie...say gardens,mapper goto 456, lift rock?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: why would you want to?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't need to do that.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Not really, because mapper goto 456 will fire while you are still in the room....not after saying gardens and when you are transferred...better to put the path in after say gardens.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: because in xyl "say gardens" dumps you in a random room
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I always just do mapper goto 455, wait for it to dump me, thn do it again :p
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn rapidly nods twice at Bishoujo Raded, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: yes...but that's why I want the goto to run after the gardens..
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: but yeah guess could do that
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mapper goto took me right to the room.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: whats your cexit from 472 and where does it take you?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think it dumps you in a random room. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: it dumps in a random room
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: it does, you probably just got lucky
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wait...maybe after the goal it doesn't and I just never fixed it
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: testing time
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I never did the goal.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: At least pre-goal it dumps random
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I wish cexits could do things like I described though
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: no way to do that kind of thign as far as we know?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh, must've been luck of the draw then on the very first time I tried it, it dropped me in the right room.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, it's random. got 463 first try, 467 second try
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Borthain I got it
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: say gardens;wait(1);mapper goto 455
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Exactly what I just did.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: and it works for you?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: mine still did the goto right away
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper goto 455 reliably gets me there
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yup, works
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: cool let me try again
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Make sure you delete all the previous attempts.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: (now that like half of this channel is in xyl testing. :P thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not a big time saver from what I was doing before but I'll have to hit enter one less time :p
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: that adds up!
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: do you guys ever do ah as part of a cexit? i.e...for the next part through the maze?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I wouldn't rely on that at all
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: well for rubber gardens...really unlikely that everything "rubber" is dead
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but ah wouldnt take you to the same room every time
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you'd need a more complicated procedure to make it viable as part of a speedwalk
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it would only work with a long wait, which defeats the purpose
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue is that the cexit would start the ah, and then would immediately (in the middle of the ah) continue with the rest of the directions
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: well with the wait again
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you have the xyl portal, you dont need to go through rose ether for the rubber section
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, the portal makes navigation nice
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I guess I should just do the goal finally heh
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or buy a portal
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't need to do the goal for the portal.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: what's the portal level though? low enough to be usable early enough for cps?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: level 100
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mine is level 100.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: thanks all. and useful to know this too
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: for other areas without a portal
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: fair warning, the unowned portal is expensive these days
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I always try to do the goal. :)
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: more fun that way
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Xyl goal isn't too bad, a little sensitive in a couple places, but overall that was a fun one.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: campaigns.gaardian.com broken?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: gives me no results
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: let me check too
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: copying straight from cp info, receiving zippo
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: doesn't work in IE either
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: scrambled?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: none
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Worked for me.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: well, it's giving me jack
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you put in your level?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: pastebin your cp or something. I'll try it to validate 100% if on you
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I run no script but no advisory to approve scripts
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: have tried everything, auto-detect, putting in level and setting campaign, it does not work
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: something client-side
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: yeah, it doesn't work in either Edge or Firefox
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: send your cp. I'll try it for you on mine which is working
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: to confirm
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: okay, I will
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: very bizarre that it works in neither browser
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: sent
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: appreciate you looking into it for me
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: http://pastebin.com/xnAstypF
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: god damnit
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: if you just want the names
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: always something
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: have no clue what to do to make it work either, if it works in neither browser what could that be?  my internet is fine, router is fine, nothing out of ordinary
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: hmm. try a private mode browsing or something
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try not using noscript, turning off antivirus, etc.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: or a safe mode
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: don't turn off av but any internet security suite browser settings maybe
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: is it supposed to pop something up?  another window, maybe?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: In what way is the site broken, Citlalin? Does it just not load for you?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: just a simple php page
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: returns zero results
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not getting results
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: you must have something running on all your browsers that stops it
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I don't use Edge at all though
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: maybe try ie/edge (since I doubt you have anything on those)
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: never used IE
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: oh hmm
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: That's not how PHP works - if it is PHP, i haven't looked.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: <form action="index.php" method="post" accept-charset="utf-8" onsubmit="return validateCampaignForm(this)
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: the page said campaign level 41 detected, "here's that campaign proposal", totally blank results
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: Nod, so the post and request is PHP, which is all server side - his browser doesn't care about php.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: check page source, citlalin?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: rooms.gaardian.com works just as always though, so I can use that for sure.  Just really curious at this point.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: maybe display issue
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: see if the content is there in the source
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: right click view page source. ctrl-f <table class="campaign-table"
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I upgraded to windows 10 the other day but iirc it wouldn't work prior and I just assumed site was buggy or something
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: the table element is there and it's blank
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: </table> tag immediately following
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: browsing through source, no mob names at all
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: Are you copying in the entire results from cp info? If I only put in the "Find and kill..." lines then I get back no results as well. Sorry if you already answered that
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you only need the find and kill part if you click the radio button for campaign and put in a level
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: tried that and didn't work either
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I tried everything I could think of before asking here :p
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I know you did, I meant for mathoran
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: Fair enough. As far as I know it defaults to Auto-detect. I hadn't even seen those radio buttons
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: nothing misspelled in this cp though, that's the first thing I check since I 'cpmob' them with the corrected spelling if I can figure it out
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: likely something wrong in the submit
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: maybe try ctrl+f5..
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: maybe close all browser windows try again
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: restart...etc?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: or run debugger and see what happens when you click post to make sure all data is there
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: will close browser and see if that works
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: You are about to close 40 tabs.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: At least that's less than 122, which was last time..
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You boggle at the concept.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: trying fresh browser didn't work either
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: otherwise the page looks normal, loads up, isn't slow at all.  The list is just absent.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: Have you checked the actual request data after it is submitted? Using the browser developer tools or whatever other sniffing tools
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: maybe something is mangling it? I can't imagine what but I'm not an expert in the area *shrug*
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: the table element is there, but contains no data
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: on the submit too?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: check the submit
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: what do you mean, 'the submit' ?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: If you are using the Edge browser, you can hit F12 (I think) for developer tools. Not positive, I don't use Edge
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mathoran Tech: There you can look at the request body after you submit the form
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you are manually submitting the cp info?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: checked history, it wasnt clear to me
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: TypeError: document.getElementById(...) is null
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: whatever that means
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: The character encoding of the HTML document was not declared. The document will render with garbled text in some browser configurations if the document contains characters from outside the US-ASCII range. The character encoding of the page must be declared in the document or in the transfer protocol.
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: this is from Firefox's developer/debugger thing
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can you post your CP info so we can try it?
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I posted it to one person and it worked for them
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: my computer apparently hates the website for some reason, or the website hates it
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Most likely hate
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: the 'doesn't work in either browser' thing is just bizarre
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: whitelisting the site in ghostery and noscrpt also did nothing
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: cleared browser cache, nothing
T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I appreciate you all looking into this form me.  at this point I'm stumped.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: just curious MUSH tick timer on bottom left currently ticks down by 2, it used to tick down by 1 any ideas where to look to change it?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: no idea :\
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: change Aardwolf_Tick_Timer.xml
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in the plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there was a reason it's not at 1
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is a line enabled="y" second="2.00" offset_second="0.00"    send_to="12"
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe performance iunno
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Nothing was wrong with 1 it was before I updated long time ago to 1845
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: actually 1 was very precise or felt smoother or maybe it was personal preferance
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no offense but if you dont where to look to even change it, you wouldnt know if there were perfomance issues
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: none taken
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Thanks Trachx
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: lol reset comand for search and destroy gui again? 
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: dont know why i can never rememeber it
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: anyone remember the command to reset the search and destroy gui?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: thx
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is it possible to get the mapper to walk one step at a time
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: not that i know of
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: unfortunate
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unfortunate for what
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what I want it to do:-)
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: walk one step at a time!
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for what?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so that I can work out where I have balled-up my custom exits
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use mapper where to print the path
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, done that. Guess I should try and fix that and send a PR in...
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: fix what
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, extend the mapper -- I think that would be a nice feature. Or perhaps it's only me
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not a bug
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that's why I changed "fix" to "extend"
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably also not a feature I will merge because I think it would increase botting
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Not sure how that would increase botting but also not sure if it is a feature that is anything more than novel
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm also not seeing how it helps you solve this problem in a way that mapper where doesn't
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I can't work out what use that would be for botting, but as you want
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so as sonet says, it seems like just a novelty
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you walk on step at a time, printing out steps remaining, and do each direction as you move. When you have a custom exit broken (or a door doesn't open), then it stops
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no worries, if you are not interested, I can always implement it locally.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how many steps are in your path?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there were about 10
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and how often do you mess up a custom exit without realizing it?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: doors, all the time
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and how long does it take you to walk 10 steps and say "Oh, step 8. Step 8 is the bad one."
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have to go -- RL calls
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you mess up door cexits?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how do you mess up a door cexit?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Fiendish I am thinking that we are missing something he can't seem to figure out how to convey in text
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Sonet: I'm sure that's true
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is why I'm asking questions
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's not "messing up a door cexit", I think, but rather, needing to put an "open door" cexit in there (for when you don't have passdoor, etc). There have been a number of times people have asked, "What's wrong with my mapper? It leads me to a completely different placce!" and we have to tell them to walk the path step-by-step to find out where the error is.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm guessing Swalec is looking to alleviate that as much as possible. Using mapper goto 456, for example, is a lot of steps if you do mapper where. So, having to remember which step you were on when you started the journey is a bit of a pain.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Honestly, I've written a similar option to display a path into my mapper (not using MUSH, but one extremely similar) and I quite often end up using it to assist other folks with finding paths.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's already an option to display the path, though.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Swalec wants to go a step further and walk it one step at a time.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Ah, okay... hmm, I misunderstood.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think I have a better idea
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Now I certainly can't really see a use for it, it's easy enough to figure that out by having the remaining path displayed.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well maybe
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I might have to implement something and see if I think it violates a principled boundary and then maybe scrap it
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Robbo: Well, the problem comes in this: I go 3n2w4ne. Along the way, I hit a door, so I get the 'Alas, you cannot go that way.' message. But the mapper doesn't stop there because hey, I can still move in the other directions. So, where I end up isn't necessarily where the problem is.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: every intelligent automation tool increases the ability to bot succesfully
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: My question is, how is that feature increasing the risk of someone making a bot over the mapper itself?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't actually consider the mapper pathfinding itself to be an intelligent automation tool, because it doesn't make decisions based on results about what to do next. You're asking for something that does.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well not you
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The real question is not how it can be used to bot, but rather, "If it's something useful that people can legitimately use, why punish those who play legitimately?" The ones who bot are going to bot, whether you add a feature or not, and probably already are. Those who aren't, well, let them be stupid and start botting and get caught.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and then I become the next winklewinkle and everyone hates me instead of loving me
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's a difference between you and Winklewinkle.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not really
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: except that he's not here anymore
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to make any distinction, it's that I worry about things like this and maybe he worried a little less
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: neither of us can predict the eventual results of a decision years in the future
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am confused are we supposed to consider winkle a bot maker? I missed that memo
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: S&D is one tweak away from being a full-fledged bot. Having a feature that allows you to walk a path one step at a time isn't going to help someone bot, in my opinion. It's simply walking them along the same path until you reach a destination.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Sonet: a lot of people do
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for gqs at least
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Ah, I had not realized that
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: perhaps not for leveling
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm actually worried more about level botting
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Well, I mean you are doing really fine work Fiendish and it is your program. If you deem it to botty then don't do it. I just don't see the argument for that statement
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think that very simple and efficient mechanisms can be employed to make sure that GQs continue to be fun even if some people bot them
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Sonet: I prefer to not write scripts that make decisions based on intermediate results
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan is agreeing with that The Jerk Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and every time I've done it in the past I end up regretting it
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: except for maybe mobprogs. mobprogs with complex logic are super cool.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I must be missing some parameter of what he was asking for. I thought he was asking for something that simply went one step at a time and displayed the remaining steps. I do not see the intellegent decision making in that
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Maybe I've misinterpreted what that means.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: suggest a simple mechanism that doesn't actually decide if it's made a mistake that still helps achieve the goal of finding a missing door
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think it's really a comparison to zMUD's #SLOW, though I forget how that work. Pretty sure that #SLOW required some sort of input, though.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: Here's a simple mechanism
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: before *any* run... Note to the client the path it's taking
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: that way... if a mistake happens.. you can go back to the starting point and walk it step by step to see where it goes wrong
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that already happens though
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Fiendish I was thinking he was asking for something that essentially did mapper where, then moved one room and did mapper where again. That way he could see the location of the break
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but why automate that?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: but that *can* be used to bot
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish: If I'm walking a path of 3n2w, after one step, it'd display 2n2w, after two, n2w, and I can check each room. If I see no north exit after the second step, then I know something's broken and I need to fix it.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Hirozan how is that?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The reason for automation? Less typing on the behest of the player. That'd be my guess.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: if you keep track of where you're going... and go 1 step at a time, much like the cexits knows when you haven't moved... your auto-walker now knows that you haven't moved... and once it knows that logic can be added to check for doors and then correct the mistake.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: it requires someone to add code, but it makes it that much easier to make a bot.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I see so the bot would essentially be able to create its own cexits if there are none..
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: If a person where to go that far, he might as well have built that functionality into the mapper to begin with. I mean yes, it would bring them one step closer to that type of thing, but if they have the skills to do the rest of the work, they could have done the whole thing themselves already
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: no argument there... but Fiendish doesn't have to get them 90% of the way there if he doesn't want to :P
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am actually voting against this function being implemented as it is useless, I just wanted to know the rational behind why everyone jumped to BOTTING quicklt
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: quickly*
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mechanism might be useless, but the intent isn't
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the question then becomes whether the intent is appropriate or not
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Personally, I'd be happy with something that stopped you on an "Alas, you cannot go that way." and displayed the direction it was trying to take. So when I do 'mapper goto 12345', it'll run the entire path (not step-by-step) and, like a person slamming into a brick wall, you'll get stopped.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not even run works that way
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Run does, after 3 attempts.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 3 failed directions and the run is aborted.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in a row
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not exactly the same. that only works if you run 10e and there's a door east
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in any case, nothing stops you from triggering on that message and spitting out the room ID 
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Alternatively, can store the first instance of "Alas...." and the direction it tried to go, complete the run, and then display a message saying, "Error in room 12345: Tried to go north."
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if what you want is the room id where you get an Alas message, you should make a trigger for the Alas message
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that doesn't even require access to the db
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Get the room id, head to the room, mapper where <desintation>, fix whatever, yeah, could do that.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not going to add that to the mapper plugin, because there's no reason to integrate it
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least not right now
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is there anything that isn't a tag that starts with an open curly brace?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nothing comes to mind.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No room names, either, as far as I can tell.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I want to filter tags out of something, and I can't just temporarily disable tags without also doing a whole bunch of stuff to first see if they were on or off in the first place. telopt toggling of paging is much more useful in this regard.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where because pagesize is set to 0 to be disabled, the telopt on/off toggle lets it not matter if it starts on or off
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: telopt on/off toggle for tags actually sets the used value though so that's out
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this does unfortunately complicate written tag-likes in notes
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if the player doesn't have the prefix active
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not with the pipeline, if you're anchoring it, anyway.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You beat me to it.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so lemme check, you're saying something is interrupting your send currently?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: some regex maybe?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: In CMUD/zMUD, you can hit a hotkey to 'turn off parsing', meaning anything you type will not be checked against aliases/scripts.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can disable triggers to do something similar in mushclient
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can probably disable aliases too (for debugging temporarily)
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah you can, there's a checkbox in the aliases menu
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: That's what he was looking for.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure if he has the channel on.. lol
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there a tag around Recoveries?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nm, there is.  spellup plugin is quashing them
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might want to check out "help spelltags", which describes all of the spell-related tags
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yep thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: actually no info about recovery tags :P
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Endymion.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: duh...
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the spellup plugin was quashing those parts in help file lol
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing except the third and fourth things in bright white?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: darn winkle
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the spellup plugin was written to be royally-sucky
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah the {rec isnt anchored
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Can I turn off S&D xrt trying to use planes amulet to get to amusement? Cant use it for 14more levels
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: you need to set the portal level
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Make a portal...
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I have it set to lvl 25, or at least I think I do
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I'll just delete it and remake it later
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: mapper portal <alias name>
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: mapper help portals. check mapper portals to check and then mapper portallevel <ind> <lvl>
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: id you type mapper portals, you can see what level your portals are set to.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah, it's set to 25
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It was the first portal I made so, I probably screwed it up back then
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It says area amusement, room upper planes, level 25
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That'd be amulet of the planes.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Just can't see why xrt amusement would try to use it if I'm lvl 11
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: runto amusement, xset mark, recall, runto amusement
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It shouldn't use it at all to get to amusement park
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Er, the second one should be xrt, not runto.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you paste the entry from 'mapper portals'?
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I deleted it, but I can scroll up and find it, one sec
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: 3 | amusement  | The Lower Astral Pla | 29364 | do_portal_engine 161 |  25 
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: OK, I just added the amulet of the planes to my mapper portals, and xrt amusement goes where it should
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I probably just messed it up when I was learning
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'd try doing a regular runto, xset mark, and then try it again. That's often been the fix for when my xrt goes places I don't expect.
T3/r7/2016-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so... if i have 2 plugins that use spellup tags, and the 1st one does "omit_from_output" but also does "keep_evaluating" does that mean the 2nd plugin will still be triggered off the tag even though its not in the output window?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: anyone know where i can find a simple example mushclient to demonstrate how to use miniwindows?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: aardwolf website
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: sorry i meant a miniwindows mushclient script
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: google bastmush
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: you want a clean mush? one that has no miniwindows?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: ohh a script. Aardmush has all scripts in the plugins
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: anyone know if swalec is going to update his SW plugin for mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I haven't felt the need to update it for a while
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: although I still use it, I suspect most people find the mapper far easily to configure and use
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is there something wrong with it?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: hey swalec, forgive my dumbness, but your sw plugin seems to error out when i load it into the latest mushclient
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: really? I don't know how old my mush is but I installed it recently -- can you give me a description of the problem?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: when it loads, it doesn't seem to be able to sense that i am at recall
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: "ID: 1, Area name: nil ..."
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: then after that, i get an error "Reason: processing trigger "" when matching line: "{srunend} srunto""
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: and no runto command works
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: "Trigger function "runtoend" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there must be an error report somewhere -- I need the stack tracwe
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: trace
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: nice to know that someone is using it!
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: it is a good plugin, i like the shortest path algo
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that I can't claim responsibility for:-)
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: is thi sthe stack trace? http://pastebin.com/WFK09dex
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yep, that's the one
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: basically the first time i install the plugin, i can runto to "lidnesh" for example. then the moment i reach the first place i run to, this error pops up, and i can no longer run to any other locations
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: because mushclient then throws an error Trigger function "runtoend" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, once it's broken, mush disables it
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that error suggests it's not finding the x-y location
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: i was trying to trace the code myself too, but the code is a little lengthy to untangle aha
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, x, y location comes straight from gmcp 
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you have the gmcp handler switched on?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: how do i check that
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: it should be right, coz the aardwolf stat window which also uses gmcp_handler is working fine
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: and i am using gmcp in my other scripts
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: can I ask, where did you get the plugin from?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: https://swalec.wordpress.com/swalecs-srun-plugin/
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: Swalecs_plugins_2011_02_16_17_19.zip 
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: has it been five years already!
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ya and till today i think its still pretty good,i had something similar in cmud but i dont want to rebuild it again in mushclient
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, okay, well now I can see where the problem comes from
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: oh where did the problem come fromm
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there should be an easy fix
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: in the "print_location" function there is a bit which says --- location.x .. ","
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if that said --- location.x, ","
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then it would work without error -- the problem is, afaict, that it hasn't found the x and y location, and that's causing the print out to break
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: irritatingly, it's in something informational.
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: oh then how did the plugin work for others before me.. wierd is my mushclient screwed?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I will send you a fix -- but you'll have to edit the plugin -- but I will try and release a new version
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, I think it's just an edge case -- probably once you have moved, it would all work
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: can you check "protocol gmcp" and check that the Room option is on?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: yep it is
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: okay, then it's probably just the values haven't been sent yet -- it shouldn't crash, though, my bad code
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: now I will have to move the hosting to github!
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: good luck
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still hate git and github
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: when makin a new paypal account, and you link the bank account, does it really take 2-3 days for them to do the penny deposits? or can it be faster
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: god thats dumb, why can't i just use a card :/
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: add money to my paypal :b
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: but it wants me to do the bank account first so I gotta sit and wait
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: aint nobody got time for dat
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: it even let me add a card, but still cant add money til bank account thing goes through
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: depends on your bank, but you can get instant verification if you login to your bank online through paypal's verification portal
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: yeah I dont have a bank that lets me do that :/
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well you can always switch banks
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: no i like my bank
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: anyone knows why the aard mapper won't recognize locked doors?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: because you didnt add them?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you gotta teach it to deal with locked doors with a cexit
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper can do n/e/s/w/u/d by itself, everything else is you
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ah ok i got it thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanko Tech: Hello. Is there a way to make the most recent entered command persist on the prompt, preferably highlighted? (Using MUSHClient/Aardwolf client)
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Good news there is, I've seen people do it, bad news I don't know how
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: world properties - input - commands - check Auto-repeat command
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanko Tech: Heh.
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it is persistent and highlighted with that option
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanko Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Anyone know anything about genetic algorithms?
T3/r7/2016-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: anyone getting issues with brightsea in the aard mapper? it doesnt detect that im in the room
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: guys does anyone have the aardwolf-lunk repository stored its down on github?
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: anyone online that has the lunk scripts ?
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: is there a script for using the mudlet map?
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: Not that I know of. There's a pretty basic mudlet package http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MudletAardwolfGUI that puts the ascii map in a separate window, that's what I use.
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Ok, I'll take a look. Thanks!
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: weird
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: right now for some reason using help mu-upgrades or help manorupgrades just locks my client. using bast aardhelp
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: no other things work wrong. help on other topics works
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: i wonder if its a work in process and contains some script that loops atm
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: its not just locks it locks with using hdd at full :P
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: does anyone have the noexp_cp.xml plugin code somewhere?
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't believe lunk deleted his git repo. what a dick move.
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what was in that repo?
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: some scripts he wrote that apparently some people use
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, did -h
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: google cache shows https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YMGK3Nbs54QJ:https://github.com/Aardwolf-Lunk+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=fr
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: i believe the Quaffer and mapper ninja are available on the mush site the rest i can't find. I would like to see the code for the noexp toggle though
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: there should be people with Lunk's old scripts though we can recreate a github when we have them all
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: can i use the gpmc to check if noexp is enabled?
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: can i use the gpmc to check if noexp is enabled?qr
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think so
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least not without killing something to test getting xp
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: guys anyone familiar with pulling campaign data from gpmc ?
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not sent via GMCP
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: nah its not sent via gmcp
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: hmm ok so Bast is pulling creating it himself ?
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: basicly i want my plugin to keep track of the level i started a cp
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's using cp info/cp check
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's in cp info
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Level Taken........: [   201 ]
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: well afaik you just wanted autonoexp trigger. you just need to make/check 2 variables if exp greedy if not simple solution : alias cpr goto cp location noexp. trigger you have gained a level noexp. // alias noexpon EnableTrigger ('noexp', true) // alias noexpoff EnableTrigger ('noexp', false) // all send to script. if you want it to stop at percentages you ll need a function to get tnl and THATs what is send via gmcp iirc. never bothered though.
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, if you want an auto-noexp trig, bast already does that
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: nods. it does.
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: i guess i overlooked it then where is that configured ?
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: btw anyone else have issues with bast miniwins help: help manorupgrares/ help mu-upgrares. warning. my client just froze dead on trying to use it via miniwins but processed its fine with em disabled. i sent a tell to imm about the issue (prob tags missing or something not commented) still curious
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Visionaire Tech: too lazy to check/fix it thought
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: same here it freezes till i disable my triggers then it opens fine
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helpfile has the tags, so bast must be doing something weird
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the auto-noexp, it's a side function of his statdb plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: thanks just what i was looking for
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: hmm strange i set the max xp on the statdb plugin but its not firing
T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: wait i think i see the problem :)
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quaken Tech: Is there a way to make it so comms only show in my comm log?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quaken Tech: nvm i'll just disable channels
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: chats echo off, or right-click and choose Don't echo commands...
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunivar Tech: hey -- i could use some help identifying how to turn this off - either through a MUD command, or MUSH configuration change.. here is the link to what I am seeing.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunivar Tech: http://imgur.com/tv2ArbE
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunivar Tech: looks like some mapping feature that spams when i enter a new room
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IMMposter Broud Tech: did you look at help maptype yet?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunivar Tech: reinstalled AND updated.. i dont think i remember getting a prompt to update when i first installed the client
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Is it just me or does gmcp.room.info not update with a lot of rooms?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just you. it always updates.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: give an example
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Ok so the event fires, but as far as I can tell the variables won't update properly with certain rooms. I'm at 32459 Whitewind Avenue in Aylor, south is supposed to move me to 32460. But when I move south and check the gmcp.room.info variables they are all identical to the previous room.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're at 32460
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: yes, I just moved. But my gmcp.room.info still says 32459
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what client
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: mudlet
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: works fine for me in mushclient
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: problem in mudlet, I wager
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Hmmm, I'll try a new profile. Incase it was me, somehow. I'm not overly keen on learning a new client.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: yeah, empty profile and it doesn't update. So its a mudlet thing.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the thing about GMCP data is that the server doesn't actually care if a particular kind of data is gmcp or "regular" messages. at the socket layer it's all the same. The _only_ difference is that GMCP has special bytes around it that your client says to not display
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: I see
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so a bug where some gmcp data gets sent only sometimes would be very...weird
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's like saying "hey, when I move into a room sometimes the room doesn't show"
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which could happen, but without everyone noticing?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Yeah, it looks like its something in mudlet. I'll have to look into mushclient.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could check if there are any updates for mudlet
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: There is one, though theres a few features in it that this older version has that the new one doesn't. I'll try it non-the-less.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they took out features eh?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, if you decide to switch to mushclient I will humbly suggest getting it from the "Download Zip" link here https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Well they changed the way a few things were handled(Beyond my understanding) which indirectly removed something that a few a features relied on. They are minor features so its not the end of the world
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Will do, thanks!
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Damn. Latest mudlet doesn't work either. Here I come mushclient.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: I used the aardwolf mushclient for a minute, and now when I changed back to mudlet I'm getting <MAPSTART> and <MAPEND> along with {coords}0,30,20 echoing with every look or move. Did it toggle some configs or something?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: and "{chan ch=tech}" when I used the channel just now
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: Try maptags ?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Ok, thats one of them down. I'll look through the configs and see if I can figure out what else it toggled on me.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: help tags  it will give a little more info
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: Nod Gener, tags is the command you want. It'll show all your enabled tags
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Thanks :).
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: if you're using mudlet I highly recommend the Mudlet Aardolf GUI (MAG), http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MudletAardwolfGUI
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: You can check out the screenshot there to see most of its prominent features
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: is there any way to stop the mapper from running me into xmas at low levels on my way to wildwood?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: lockexit
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the exit into xmas, set a level lock
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: right click on the room in the mapper on the continent and lock it to say level xxx.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: im right clicking on the map and i have 5 options: change font, show coordinates, bring to front, send to back, reset defaults
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: wrong map
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: the other map is in bigmap mode
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: im on the continent
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: remove bigmap by right clicking.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: when i click on the map i just have bring to front, send to back
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: right click bigmap(mapper window), select unmerge continent bigmap from GMCP Mapper, then click right click the room you want to place a block exit to.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Joelz rightclick on the room on the map where you want to make the change
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: there are no rooms. i see gelidus the continent
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: id have to go into the area to make the change maybe? :-p
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: and snowman will kill me again
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you have to be in the area so you can see the room on your map
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no need to be in the exact room
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hmm next time I talk nonsense please tell me to keep my mouth shut so I won't make it even worse.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie goes to Ayasinda, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: so i updated mush which seems to have fixed the problem i was having before, but now it's not importing my old map db correctly? i copied over the old file and it does the schema update but areas that i had clearly explored before arent there
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hold on. i'm reading channel history.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for the future, you can toggle bigmap on continents with the commands listed in "bigmap help"
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I see.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Joelz: do you still have the old copy before schema update?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh. you're linkdead. 
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hope you don't always ask questions and then leave right away. ^_^
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Anyone know why my energy containment & prayer of fortune keep getting disabled in bast spellup?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you flipping between alts?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Nope, it just says I already have it on, then disables itself, I don't have it on though
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: do bsp refresh, then toggle them back on, and see.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Seems to be working now, I did refresh and reinstall, must of been thinking I had them on for some reason
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: how can i recover a previous version of the cml file in the world folder?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: how can i restore a file to a versionbefore it was broken?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: broken how
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: well, my PC restarted while i was playing aard and it screwed the mcl file in the worlds folder... had to redownload mush... now i cant get my aliases and stuff cuz the mcl file is broken
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it messed up the mcl file? interesting. 
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you know what's wrong with it?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: i can email it to ya and you can take a look if you dont mind? cuz i have no idea how to identify how its broken
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah sure
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh wow. huh.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the file is just all zeros
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's super neat
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not good, but neat
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: hah :P
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, no, the file is like completely totally gone
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: which is why i want to restore it
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess this is what backups are for
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: there any way i can fix it?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no way to fix that file. the file you sent me is completely destroyed
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you have a version of it from some time earlier...like if you updated MUSHclient to a new folder
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish's system backs up the database file, but not the other files
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: damn... so thats definitely a no... thats what i realized as well
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is actually a plugin that backups up the world file. maybe I should institutionalize that practice.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Form Aldehyde is agreeing with that The Jerk Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: thanks for the help :)
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry. In an ideal world I wouldn't even have the mapper make backups of the database file
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because everyone would have timemachine or something
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably the best thing Apple's ever done
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: proper way to say is the "time" machine
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish, trying to open up URLs from the Comm Log is erroring out. Happened with the new version. It's copying it alright, but I haven't been able to open a link since I upgraded.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what error?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if it's copying, that's good at least
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (I haven't changed the code in the comm log plugin)
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: epic calendar has a bug. [string "Plugin"]:66: attempt to call field 'doAsyncRemoteRequest' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Doesn't specify. Just says: "MUSHclient may have encountered an error trying to open the selected URL. It has been copied to the clipboard."
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What versions are you guys using?
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Have to at least be upgraded enough for the async.lua file.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Though you can just copy the async file from the upgrade versions.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh man. if you drive people to upgrade I'll love you forever
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i still have w7
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: but i loved the bigger close window buttons in w10. so. might change:)
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm not talking about OS... :p
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: same thing
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hwuaijijal: Is this the erroryou are gettnig? http://pastebin.com/9GF8Hagqc
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are people still using versions probably from the first year of releases
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: this page is no longer available:P
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Try this...http://pastebin.com/2dvNk3sP
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: no. its different. but Arci explained already
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Turie: Reinstall the plugin after getting the async.lua file. It should work then, though I hold no guarantees because I don't know if Fiendish is using something newer or not.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish smirks.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suggest not replacing files with older or modified ones
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can always link to raw files in my MUSHclient branch on github
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: async.lua didn't exist in older versions. If they don't have async.lua, then getting it direct from your distribution should fix it.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It is linked to your raw. :P
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: complicated
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they'll also need the DLLs
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, well then.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: actually
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only if you're using HTTPS
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which I am. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course you are, because you should be
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, luasocket doesn't do SSL without extra layers on top of it
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though Danj apparently still can't get the updater to work for reasons I can't figure out at all.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm seriously considering just making an NSIS installer and scrapping the whole in place updater thing
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: write it off as a fun exercise that ultimately went in the bin
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or switch to using libcurl instead of sockets
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and let it handle everything
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which of course still doesn't guarantee that it'll work for him 
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: with his apparently MITMed certificates
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By the way, Fiendish, as a side note, I know at least one person has been hesitant to upgrade because Aardwolf's page still says the latest "stable" version is something like r1825 or whatnot.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: May want to pester Lasher to update the site.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean, what's stable anyway
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't backport bug fixes
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't maintain separate feature branches
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it just is what it is
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if I had paying customers I'd do that differently, but this is just a little hobby toy with commit comments in it like "oops" and "durr, I'm a programmer. I make programs."
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, but people are refusing to update because the Aard site doesn't say that 1870 is stable. So they don't want to be "beta" testers and go with what they know "works". :\
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only valid reason to not want to update is because laziness is more important to you than new features or fixes
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, that's sorta legit. except that I often don't get bug reports until years later, so it misses the boat on development window that would make it plausible
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lasher wants to be able to have a link that he has some kind of administrative control over. I respect that a lot. Whether the link is more or less stable is harder to answer
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in theory you could look at a github commit and say that the next 20 commits after that weren't bug fixes
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hah. I rarely put anything useful in the commit descriptions.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: god I hope the updater works for everyone other than danj
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Last couple worked flawlessly for me.
T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: any way to make Netflix on PC stay full screen between episodes of things? as is right now it undoes the full screen then locks after  being idle
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: Could someone help me with a question regarding bast mush mapper commands
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: we can try
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: I've been away a cpl of years and a mate sent me a client that uses allot of portals is there a way to switch this off so i run to all areas instead?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: yes you can remove the portals you don't have
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: mapper purge portals
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: Awesome thanks :)
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: Didn't see the purge thing in mapper help all that works a treat :)
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the purge is mapper tho, not bash plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: The help i was looking at was GMCP Mapper Help is that different?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think it's by fiendish, the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesnt matter tho, he got what he needed
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: i did thanks again
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh it was you :P
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: anyone using bast's eqdb?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: i am
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: bast eqset work for you? i'm unable to create any eqsets or use the plugin at all
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: yes it works fine for me
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: make sure you load all bast plugins though
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: i think i am at least
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: i cant seem to make the sets and put them in containers or take out of containers
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: you can try enabling debug to see whats going wrong
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm. So as of late, Windows refuses to open links from external programs.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah, simple enough. Had to switch default program. Hmm.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mom reported that this happened with w10 & o.office
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think part of it is that a recent update had MS removing apps that were not compatible.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I guess Chrome was not officially compatible with Windows 10.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: is Proxy for Netflix Free not working anymore? :(
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I read an article that said netflix was going to counteract proxies
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah doesn't matter though, just use a VPN
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: what's with the yellow line on the gmcp map for aardmush now? 
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What yellow line?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: there are a bunch of yellow lines now..... one second ill grab you a screenshot 
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: http://imgur.com/rMXCUHO
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Huh, never seen that before
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: Me either, that is strange looking
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: shae you hax the client!
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Based on where they are on that map, I'd say they are area transitions
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: clearly you don't know my computer skills because if you did, you'd never say that 
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Clan entrances?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: there is a reason I pitch all my script ideas to Arcidayne =P
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: Yeah I couldnt script my way out of a room with no walls
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not just clan entrances, any change between areas. I see the academy there, and bard.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hrm it might be clan entrances 
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hrmmm
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: but if this was in an update why hasn't anyone else seen it =( 
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Those are up/down exits.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Anyone know how to hand "-" symbols in mudlets string. functions?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suriel Tech: Sorry, handle*
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: looks like you're right metria, it's showing the same thing between areas outside of aylor
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: type mapper show updown
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: or is it mapper updown?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you have the auto-updater dingus Fiendish was working on?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: Dont look at me never heard of that command
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: not a command
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh wait, it's the area exits.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Click the star, turn off area exits.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Been there forever.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: ah ha!
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And it's mapper updown, not mapper show updown, haha.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: that was it, thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's a reason you pitch all your ideas to me. 
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I asked Mendaloth for one......yes im cheating on you
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ...
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: rekt
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I should go back to posting notes on upgrades...
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saber Guinness Tech: no?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: Arch I'm using one of mendaloth's scripts too lol.  O.O
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Something about... investigating, but... no, that's not the word...
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Guinness is tired of writing socials for me. :P
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: Mendaloth takes his time on his scripts though, I'm sure he just likes to be very thorough in his work
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaelynne runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ...
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i'm using statmonitor by Bast, is there a way to make stat.db smaller? it's getting larger and larger.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Stop playing. :P
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or delete it.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SeanJac looks at Arcidayne and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Let me make sure I understand properly
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're using a plugin that collects statistics in a database.. but you don't want the database to hold data?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i was thinking of deleting it, was just wondering if it will recreate a stat.db file if i do
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It will, although it may crash if you delete it while mushclient is open. IDK how well it'd handle that.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: ok, thanks. i installed it just to see how fast each pup i do is.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If that's the only stat you're after you can probably find a more lightweight plugin to do it
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: see what i did there? it works on so many levels.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Mannec.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: aww, really? its hardly any fun at all if i have to explain it.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since there has been absolutely nothing from you on the channel, yeah, it'd need a bit of explanation
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: you got some splainin' to do
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: check google or wikipedia or something for DEADBEEF.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's been nothing about beef here...
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: i love beef
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thats because this isnt curse.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exactly. which is why your statement HERE required explanation...because nobody could "see what you did"
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion sighs.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: well, anyone could - if they had tech and curse channels on.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: I do, but i usually don't speak on them
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: 0xDEADBEEF
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 0xsteaks
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: 0xC0FFEE
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh hi
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ohai
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone have experience with MVC Request filters?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: preferably Javax servlet request filter
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not me
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: fooEy.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: twas a shot in the dark
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Anyone have an Ethics parser on hand?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc has no ethics
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I hate these GE classes
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Abe do you have any working knowledge of Genetic algorithms?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: not a fan of some of the decisions seagate has made in recent years.  like not including a copy of their software with new hds.  200+mg downloads are no fun.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: 200Mg of what?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: 200mg of 'make it work' software.  plus, of course, the downgraded version of their backup/restore software, which is a large part of that 266045952 bytes.  man, wouldnt it be nice if you could get just the one little thing you actually need? like maybe, in the box?
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, the one thing I actually need when I buy a hard drive is the hard drive
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's usually in the box
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: well sure, if your system was made some time in like, that last 4 generations or so...
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or the last 15 years...
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: or that, right.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the last time I used manufacturer software for a hard drive was on 68k-based Macs
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: yeah, well, 'who would ever need more than 2.1TB of space?'
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have 3TB arriving saturday
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but currently only using 1TB so..
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i think youre doing the pr0nz wrong.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its all home movies/pics and some work backups :P
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: there ya go then.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: home movies and pron might be the same thing
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ditto work backups.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ah, that brings back memories.  when the higher-ups found out about the impromptu cloud-storage setup at the university, they were /extraordinarly/ upset.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: back in the days when a tb required a capital outlay to obtain, we had 3 of them full of well ... everything.  all the lab machines were participating, both t-1s were saturated 24/7... good times.
T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i wonder if they ever figured out we were dual-booting the lab machines to play pvp duke nukem...
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: did emerald quit paying their hosting fees? can't access map site
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're working on it
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: k
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: kidnapped by ufos.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: no, we're experiencing an issue with the server. in the middle of trying to get it fixed
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Just make love to it and get the pixels sticky
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Works for me
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you don't know what you've had til it's gone gone gooooone
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}War&Pieces Anaristos Tech: lovable Starphoenix :>
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pippin Tech: Anyone know how to fix an issue in zmud where I'm seeing {coords}0,42,34 <MAPSTART> on every room name and {chan ch=clantalk} before each channel use?
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's not an issue in zMUD.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It just means you have tags on.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ergo, it's MUDside, not client side. You can resolve it by typing 'tags off'
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: is there way to change variable through alias?
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure is.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just need to know what client
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Mush
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Whatever your alias is, add a * afterwards (so changevar *, for example). Then you can change Send to Script, and then SetVariable("variable_name", "%1")
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm you lost me moment you included script in :P
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Instead of Send to World (look towards the bottom below the box you send stuff in), change it to Script.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah so if I'd for example wanna make an alias to change my portal item variable hm
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then you'd follow my steps as listed.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: im gonna try I'll get back with trials and errors :p
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khannon goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: magic worked!
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Of course it did. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Much appreciated!
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good job.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: out with old and remake some convinences
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: is there a help file for search and destroy?
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: type ww help
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: keep forgetting commands, would be great to look them up instead of asking you
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: reset command for search and destroy gui?
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I am in dll hell -- why will windows not load my DLL
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: this isn't a question, I just wanted to get it off my chest
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: in mapper anyway to purge the directions to a area and not purging the whole zone?
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper figures out the directions when you do a mapper goto
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you can clear cexits and portals
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: maybe cexits is what i need, mapper is sending my to wron room on kingsholm
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you're using WW's plugins and are doing "xrt (area)", then go to the area you're having trouble with and "xset mark" where you want the xrt room to be
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: will try that
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: eh, purged the whole area, i'll just rexplore it.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that's fine, but that won't change where xrt sends you
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: different plugins
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: the area had a custom exit i think it purged that, it resolved
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: newbie question, getting mapper to open doors?
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you can using a cexit
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you have to teach the mapper but it can do it
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice at Zetkax, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: speaking of WW's plugins, ever since i upgraded my mushclient, xrt gives an error about r.date, anybody know a fix for that?
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: fingerh nokfah
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: finger nokfah
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: awesome, thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I keep trying to run through touchstone to get to Tanelorn using mapper how do I fix this?
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: its a bug, write a forum bug note
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: No its not a bug its mapper >_<
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: remove the exit that makes you bumb into the wall
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne peers intently at Mique.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: How do I do that without purging the area?
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper where the speedwalk, follow each one singly until you hit a wall.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: right click on the room on the map
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: When you get there, then you know that room needs to be updated.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then you right-click as Ayasinda says.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And you can delete an exit that way.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nod. choose delete exit. What else :)
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Honestly, I'd just delete the room, walk out, and redo it.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Still runs me through there after deleting the room :<
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did you walk the path singly to find the errant room?
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: OH fixed it :D
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Stopped in the sink hole before going in the room, never knew I could right click mapper thank you :D
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That'll be 20 tps. I'll take 8, Aysinda can take 12.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne is feeling generous today.
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda drops to the floor and hails Arcidayne!
T3/r7/2016-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: How do I see the cexits I've given mapper for a room? need to delete a broken one
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: awesome, fixed it with lockexit. <3
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: on windows 10, out of nowhere when im starting up i get asked if I want to load windows 10 on volume 1 or volume 5, if i try volume 5 it just restarts, is there a way to bypass it asking this so i do not need to wait for the time to countdown?
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on older windows, there's a hidden textfile with the boot volume options, probably the same on 10
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: does msconfig still exist?
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh wow. and it looks identical.
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: with the exception of window dressing.
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, even on W2k12R2
T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: progress bar gets all the way to the end, and _then_ data1.cab is discovered to be corrupt.  bah.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: interesting - two completely unrelated msi installers failed with corrupt data1.cab.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone ever play with an IRC bot coded in lua? or whats the most common coding language for an IRC bot? wanted to play with my own for my twitch
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: way more fun to do it in malbolge.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naughty Neji Tech: Ey all. Anybody familiar with the S&D by WInkleWInkle"?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hm, why's windows F1 triggering with MUSHclient F1 macro? Or how can stop it triggering windows f1?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's a setting under File->Global Preferences
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in the General tab, check the box for F1,F6 macros
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: oo thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I figured there's gotta be option somewhere just wasn't sure where to look
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: How difficult that would be to replace vampire leech after kill to show actual value?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actual value of what ?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think how much HP gained.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: grr, stupid fdisk.  mixing zero- and one-based counting is dumb.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: one-based counting is dumb.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: seriously? decimalized bytecounts?!
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: grrr, stupid 32-bits
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just double 'em!
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: but i might have to dump a chunk of long-term storage ... and i liked my childhood!
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i had a hell of a time getting linux raid setup/ubunto installed on 3TB drives :/
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ubuntu* lol
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: You should try btrfs
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: old software is braindead.  _some_ of its internal data is big enough to show a 2TB sector count, but not all of them.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: btrfs sounds interesting
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is not xfs more mature ?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: does xfs offer mirroring?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: You should try btrfs bag
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess for mirroring you either want to use LVM + XFS or Btrfs
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: hi my screen s roll
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: sorry, my screen has a major scrolling difficulty its out of control.  i use an android.  i have been told before how to fix this prob but gave uo because i was confused coukd somebody please walk me through exactly what to do so i can play, too?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try toggling the fullscreen mode...it fixes a bunch of weirdness
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: i dont know how to do that on my android.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go into the settings
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: and then....
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the options page, there's a checkbox for use fullscreen window
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alternatively, you can type ".togglefullscreen"
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: i got confused, sorry.  i typed what you said and it just came 
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: sorry it said newbie togglefullscrren
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, if it did that, then your "dotcommands" are turned off
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: ok, how to turn em back on
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would be in the "Service" section of the settings...the second thing is "Process Dot Commands?"
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: it dont understand me
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: i was told once to downloaf some different game or something.  it was the same game but somehow different....
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "aardwolf rpg" is the same program as Blowtorch
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it just comes with some settings pre-done (some button sets and connection to Aard)
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: sounds right but i dont know what to do
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are newer versions of Blowtorch, the beta version has a lot more features for people who are comfortable tinkering
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: i wanna play without my screen bouncing and never ending scrolling, also these bubbles marked "label" all over my screen really need to go.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bubbles marked "label" are buttons that it thought you were trying to make
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: i just wanna play
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you "long press" on an empty part of the screen, it thinks that you want to put a button there
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you long-press on one of those bubbles, it should bring up a "Modify Button" window...in the bottom-left of that window is "Delete", hit that
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the docs for the client are available at http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/, by the way
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: ok i see the link but what do i do?.  i even found blowtorch on real player but i got confused
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: -.-
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: was that a shrug.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: hi i so confuesed
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: what's wrong Jayare?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: how does the bloetorch app help with this game ?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: it is really making me feel stupid
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: oops i ment blowtorch.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: sorry ... I can't help you. I don't use it.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: its a client
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: Its just a way to connect to aardwolf with a phone.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the blowtorch app is just another method of connecting
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: my screen won.t stop scrolling and the lavel bubbles won,t go away. 
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aardwolf itself is a telnet-based game...there are many telnet programs which can be used to connect, and some programs which try to be MUD-specific giving features like buttons, triggers, etc.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: i ment label bubbles
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: were you able to find the option to turn on the dotcommands?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: dot commands,  no.  i looked in settings and i came up empty
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, when you're in settings, you need to go to Service
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: k ...then...
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the service section, there should be "Local Echo?", "Process Dot Commands?", Throttle Service in Background", etc. with checkboxes on the right
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: i looked in settings there is nothing called service
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the Program Settings page, it should have Encoding, Window, Button, Input, Service
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jayare Tech: i dont know where the prograns settings psge is
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jayare: on my Tab, I click the "menu" hardware button, to the left of the big bottom button. That brings up some things at the bottom of the screen, Aliases, Triggers, Timers, Options...if I choose Options, that is the Program Settings page, where I can choose Service
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there a way to use the style.textcolour from a trigger, inside a ColourNote()?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: such as: "textcolour"=16777215
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: funny story - linux in a virtual machine loves the new hd.  as long as i find a version of fdisk that can accept 64-bit inputs.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: partition magic likes it, too.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: windows? chokes on it.  wont even try to give any info on it, just says 'unable to read'.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but but buuuuut, windows..
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i know, right? you would think if a windows program like pmagic could see it, then windows could too - but no.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm always surprised with how bad windows is at a lot of things, not sure how I'm still surprised every time
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: how about the new intel chips being only available to windows machines
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Wintel chips
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: won't that we fun?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/16/10780876/microsoft-windows-support-policy-new-processors-skylake
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i will run this thing as a network share from my virtual linux box if i have to - but damn, thats gross.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm, that article doesnt say the chip is only good for windows, almost the opposite.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, MS is saying they'll only support Windows 10 as opposed to lower Windows...not that Windows is the only supported OS
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: tho it does have a link to potential exceptions...
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Intel would be pretty hard pressed to release a limited chip, as the number of cloud-based services running Non-Windows is an enormous amount of their business
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: indeed.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: interesting, this: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3023113/windows/microsoft-gives-enterprises-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10.html
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, it starts out "Businesses are rushing toward Windows 10 as fast as they can"...bullcrap...businesses JUST upgraded from XP to 7 :P
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: well, it could still be true - but 'as they can' may be a several-year long lead-in.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, because they're not trying...the overwhelming majority have zero interest in even investigating the change
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: for sufficiently loosely-defined versions of 'want', sure they do.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: they 'want' to be able to update hardware and software as it ages, to keep things from breaking and grinding to a halt.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they already can...upgrading the OS breaks software more than anything else
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: they 'want' to be able to buy new stuff to power their expanding businesses...
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the main reason they ran XP so long (and W2k before that) was because the software core to their business didn't want the newer OS
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ahh, but you see - soon, 'can' will no longer apply.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not true
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: umm, its what wintel is working towards.  its not even subtle - its kindof the central point of that article.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the article is wrong, however...Microsoft has no say in the matter
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: I wonder if they'll stop pushing Win 10 on us when the 'free upgrade' time runs out in July.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: The US DoD has decreed Win 10 by end of year on all systems
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ms has alot of say in what products they provide...
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: It's pretty obnoxious. I run linux, but mum's laptop downloaded ~4 gigs of upgrade without asking. And like most Australians, we have a cap on downloads.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not MSs products that are at stake, so no they don't
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and when ms stops supporting the old tools to build old software for old os, that will tend to have an impact, neh?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no Mannec, because MS doesn't need to support what is already there and working
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: such as the fact that new versions of MUSHclient are still being built with VB6 tools
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: oh sure, its working now - but next year, or the year after that?  they play a long game.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they still work 10 years from now
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: how manu business rely on mushclient?  and want to be able to pick up a phone and have mushclient inc. tell them how to click a button?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I still have a *production* SQL Server 2005 server running in our shop, as well as Windows 2000 servers which run telephone IVRs to register courtesy cards for major corporations
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone use anything like an opensource dropbox?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: maybe you dont see the need, but lots of folks, and the companies that employ them, do.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec: vertical market software is extremely notorious for not being changed to run on the latest OSes
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and im sure they work great.  but forever is a long time..
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vertical market software runs a whole lot of businesses
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody said anything about forever
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there is nothing that is going to magically happen in 18 months, either
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: uh huh.  and that kind of longevity has a negative impact on hw/os/sw vendors.  which is why they will want to discourage it, neh?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and until they're writing the vertical market software, they can shove it and can't do jack about it ;-)
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can rattle the cage, like they did in that article
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that won't get people moving to their beat
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: maybe not today, or tomorrow - but as new stuff enters the market, compatibility will become an issue - meanwhile, maintaining and repairing older hw will grow more difficult.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the home market is much easier to manipulate
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you haven't been able to walk into a Best Buy and come out with a Windows 7 machine in a long time...but you've still been able toget it from Best Buy Online, for example
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: keep in mind, there is some real stuff here - which is not to say that wintel profit-motive wont attempt to hurry the process along.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: endaloth: I use owncloud, it's a self-hosted open source dropbox thing. Works okay.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use Owncloud as well :-)
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: ...@Mendaloth, even.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is an opensource tool that works like dropbox, including the ability to share via URLs
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: its a careful dance, they want to encourage commitment to the new stuff, while keeping it slightly less painful than moving to another vendor.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: It's not as polished as Dropbox. Some weird things missing, eg: you can't pause syncing.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you can
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and theyve both had loads of practice at it.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is a bit more of a resource hog, though
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I've been looking at it...is it as seamless and quick as dropbox...
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I trust dropbox - it hasn't messed up my files yet...just scared to try another....
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Owncloud isn't a Billion Dollar corporation, so it won't have the "fit and finish", but it hasn't messed anything up for me, I've been using it for a few years
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ability to install it on your own servers and control everything is nice
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: I head they've added video chat in the latest version, which is cool but strange.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: Heard, even.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: feature-creep.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're a feature creep!
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so many kinds, so few keyboards...
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm a fan of the Super Dimension Fortress...www.sdf.org...they run an Owncloud server for their members
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyone know how to force a kindle paperwhite to check for a software update? it's been disconnected from wifi for a very long time.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: First, connect it to wifi
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Should be a software update option in the menus, can't recall exactly.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: got it on wifi :p not seeing anything for a software update though
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: settings system
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: There hasn't been one in a loong while, though.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what is going on here
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oh there's an "Update Your Kindle" button but it's grayed out
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: I know I tried to find an update for mine to support that happy Amazon font they made, but it's not available for the 1st gen paperwhites.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: anyone who can give advice for programming? book names maybe, or such...
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what kind of programming
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: Python, OOP per se
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: in any case, I suggest you send a tell to abelinc
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: anyone ever get openni to work for developing for a microsoft kinect?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: yes but 3 years ago or so, I guess.. what seems to be the problem? 
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: So I have been trying to get the examples to run via the .java code that they provide but I am getting usatisfied link errors to the openni.jni
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: More importantly I can't get any of MY code to run either. I was hoping that by building thiers I could figure it out. I have spent a few days failing with my googlefu to remedy this issue
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: google/stackoverflow searches did not help I guess?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: That was my first course of action
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I can run the examples with using the terminal to get to the sample folder containing the .jar files and using ./<SAmpleName>
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: But I cannot seem to get the code to execute
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: just to simplify things, did you also check processing? since you are using java, the tutorials can lighten your path
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I was shying away from processing due to this needing to be a UDP server that sends the hand data
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I didn't want to spend all of my time learning how to compile it for processing then having to learn how to do it in eclipse anyway
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: for a project back in the days we had used kinect, pure data, and udp (touchOSC i think) connection altogether over 2 machines, it's not that complicated
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: and the reason is that it is very nicely documented with a lot of tuts
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I mean I will be writing my own UDP server for this, the sending part. I have the kinect hooked up I just need to be able to run code that interfaces with it
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I think I am not explaining well enough.
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: and I am not an expert as well :) 
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have primesense, openni, nite all installed. I just need to be able to run my program that utilizes the connect
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am having issues with doing that last part
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: do you get any clear errors?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/OpenNi/NativeMethods
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: and sometimes I get java.lang.unsatisfiedLinkError: no OpenNi.jni in java.library.path
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: I think, and I am not sure, that there is some error with the installation or file permission with OpenNi
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: did you have earlier versions before the initial installation of it?
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: can you share the steps you followed during the installation? is there a link to a guide you followed for example
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Unfortunatly for this I had to use many different guides, as most are outdated and www.openni.org is owned by apple and shut down now
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: you could try uninstalling everything and following a new tutorial specific for your os.. it is a pain but that'd be the way I'd go
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: That doesn't exist
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: what do you work on
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: os i mean
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It is only Ubuntu 14.04 but all of the tutorials stopped being made at 12.x
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reincore Tech: that beats me... sorry sonet. that's exactly the reason I have more than one OS's
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have it on windows but I would have to develop in a language I didn't want to..
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Namely I don't want to write a C file in windows... its messy and terrible
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I got it working kind of
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique cheers and sings... she is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2016-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have the dependenies built now correctly I am having an issue with the config.xml not leting me build nodes
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: sorry...client is being really odd
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: spooky - its been years since ive seen an ftp download get corrupted in transit.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: sorry...client is being really odd
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: how do I turn off this: {invmon}7,1640528839,-1,-1
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: Not sure but I think typing Invmon does the trick
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: cheers
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: can you prevent aardwolf's mapper from using higher level portals?
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: 1. change the level of the portal or 2. lockexit the room the portal lands in
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think you could just change its level
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is there some documentation that talks about this
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: is 800x600 for a projector acceptable you think? game and movies
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rexyl convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: that's pretty low.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: you can get the canon ex300 for 6-700, 1280x800
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: it is. might be ok. rexyl, have you tried or only thought of 8x6 made you shudder?
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: The UI in games goes to pot when your resolution is that low, especially when the game isn't designed for 4x3
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Unless you're playing old games like Diablo 2
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: If you got one second hand go ahead and try it, you can get by with movies with it but games will probably be more frustration than it's worth
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: I wouldn't spend money on a 800x600 projector these days though
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal . o O (  )
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yeah. ok. i'll be careful. thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Large screen TV's are getting so cheap nowadays I have a hard time recommending a projector over a TV unless you're willing to spend the money to get the higher end projectors
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: whats command to reset window sizes and such in mush
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrs. Zoot Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: so for some reason i cannot see output from the mud. I see my echoed commands, and can see channels in the communication miniwindow, and map works. 
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you set up a trigger that gags everything by mistake?
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: reload mapper extender?
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: nope metria. ill try that hrp
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: still same thing, nothing showing up in main window except my echoed commands
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: script reinstalled fine..
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well it was a plugin. reinstalled all and its working again -_-
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Harperon shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ls does nothing in the mud, easy fix is to alias it mudside to look
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ls.bat
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ~/bin/dir
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: #include "c_to_basic.h"
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: any idea how one could turn on map window on the aardwolf app or blowtorch app?
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: saw a video on youtube that someone had the status bar and map and chat window all setup on the app... been searching like mad about it but nothing turned up
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to have a map "window", you'd need to be using the beta version and make it
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: I am using the blowtorch test or beta version 7 (newest)
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: and there is no option for creating a window to put map in it or anything
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: is there like a plugin I have to install somehow?
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd probably need to make the plugin yourself
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the video you watched was probably the video from this page: http://www.offsetnull.com/blowtorch/v2-new-features-guide/
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: ...dear lord.... 
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: yes that's the one!! his setup is perfect!
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the caption of it
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: but I searched the whole forum... nothing about how to find or download those plugins
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: are you featured in that video, abe?
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: look for the naked dwarf
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: I did read the caption... all it talks about is the new touch features of the chat
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it says The video has some things that have changed as well as things that aren't available at the current moment (like the stat/vitals window, map and the scrollable container).
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: yeah but that was 2013... I was hoping by now something is released
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blowtorch development is...slow...
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: unless developement dropped... 
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: aw... I was getting my hopes up... I guess I just have to suck it up and manage the vanilla way to play with on my tablet
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: might be worth an email to the developers?  probably not, but still.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: send e-mail tell them if they should make it open source.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: is there any third party app for android that is better than blowtorch or mudluk cuz both dont have much plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: just trying to get as close as possible to mudding experience as if I'm on the pc haha
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: there is an experience tou can getfor the price of a smartphone called a pc
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: already got a gaming pc for stuff like fallout 4 and such... lol but can't carry it to work everyday
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: bring this (my tablet + keyboard) is a lot more realistic... without getting fired lol
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: use RDP and MUSH on your PC then
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: gaming at work? where are your principles? Send me your resume.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: plus... investing in a gaming laptop to play mud is a bit overkill... hence why I'm interested in the app
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can run a PC in amazon AWS for about $5/month
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: lol... on my night shift rotation this month... getting paid 20+/hr so I must make the best of it
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: such as leveling up and completing quest on mud games :)
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Points to that odd round rack of mags in the corner of the cheapo minimart
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strayheart Tech: tech okay you lost me lol
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arnica was suggesting a less-technological way to pass the time
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: You buy these and scan them in on your ultra high pixel scanner. This is the birth of the internet, bro
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Or whar Biker said
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: did you get aroused watching apple's event this morning, biker?
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: apple had an event?
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: they did
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Anything is kind of passe after announcing the Time Machine
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: thinner ipad for the low price of $8999
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Apple announced today that all Magsafe charging cables will strangle Pleiades in his sleep, free of charge.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: thats a good business plan
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: totally shopped.  i can tell from the 'free'.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: i doubt that's gonna work, knowing how shitty they are
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: free of charge? but I want it to charge
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: They should have thrown in a free chrge, sheesh!
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Free charge with every strangulation
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: they were going to but then charge got made subclass only
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: maybe I will buy a surface pro
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion spits in utter disgust!
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How do you clear a beep from the terminal? I sent a \a in tt++ but I want to be able to remove it after some time.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if all else fails just pull the power cord
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Honestly, when I was asked that at work, I said, have an alert operator watch the screen and say "Beep"
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I hate audio alerts
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno about tt++, but in tf I'd use /beep rather than sending \a, so that it's not a character in the terminal, but an action instead
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I use a nubian who holds a wind chime
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Arnica: it's non-audio. I used it to highlight the window in my tmux status line.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I just want to be able to send some character to un-highlight it.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Well, that is fine then
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I hit the mute key on the laptop when I don't want it beeping at my trigs ;-)
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not a highlight, though
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Probably because you're not using it in tmux, Biker.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's like asking "how do I get rid of an "A" in my scrollback
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I rather like the nubian idea, though
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I just figured if there was a character I could send to tell tmux to highlight a window, I should be able to send another character to turn off that highlight.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use gnu screen rather than tmux, but it works the same way
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But let me read the tmux docs later.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's not a critical thing, it's just annoying to see a GQ alert for a GQ that's already been won :P
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Biker: so \bell or /bell highlights a screen session for you?
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I will have a Trump Avatar ring a gong, then
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use visual bell
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: It will momentarily raise his hair
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: and shrink his "fingers"
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: like he just came out of the pool
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: oh
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I thought you were talking about abelinc
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Biker: ah, OK
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: tht would reduce him to merely human size
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: truri: try some of these: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/169992/why-are-my-windows-highlighted-when-i-first-open-tmux
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks Biker. I'll read later, I should get back to work :)
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wasn't that you're undoing the termbel, it's that you want that window to not be activity-monitored for termbel
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You know how it is with distractions from work... so I read the thing. I want it to be monitored. I just want to be able to un-highlight after a while.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn the monitor off and back on should do it
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't feel like getting excited about a possible GQ only to see it's already been won by Daresia :P
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm, that's so Windows I hadn't thought of it. I'll try that later.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks Biker!
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lemme know how it turns out :-)
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you can get a crappy laptop for less than the cost of a decent smartphone...
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: mannec, I said that less than an hour ago
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: time is an illusion.
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: time keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping, into the future
T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Init(getTime.OsTime())
T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aaroth Tech: any good mud client for windows 8 phones?
T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: Good day everyone, what's a good spellup script? that will re-cast it until there are no more fails?  Thanks for any info you can provide, I appreciate it. Preferably for MushClient.
T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast, that's one of the scripts he offers
T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: thanks. I had his scripts at one time, might not have been the latest versions, I'll finger him (only if he buys me dinner first) and find out where to grab the latest versions.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: Does anyone use Bast's eqDB and Miniwin_EQ scripts?  Any tips on updateing the DB without it grabbing other messagses?  Sometimes when it ID's the eq it won't parse right on the invmon invitem info.  Sometimes I'll get "Hester shows you..." in the notes field.  I've turned off prompts, tried quiet mode to reduce the spam, any other ideas? thanks!
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're up to date and everything?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: yes, using the latest one from Bast's finger
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: i use that, i suggest turning off compact mode, and adding %c to the end of your prompt line
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: it's reading some of the eq IDs right, and it seems like some it's just reading too fast or get's interupted
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: many errors in capture scripts are caused by it not being able to detect end of the block it was trying to capture
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: ok thanks Storm, I did do the %c part
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I'll turn off compact mode.  
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it looks like the plugin doesn't anchor the  match="+-----------------------------------------------------------------+" trigger
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: ok, going to refresh the inv ID's, going into quiet mode too, so I may miss any replies but I'll check the -h when I'm done.  It'll pull a fwew and then it seems to crash
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, actually, no
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so a couple of problems with the advice you just got
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: ok thank you, and yes, that seems to be it, it'll have a note that has {invdetails}{invheader}1639256059|18 HESTER SHOWS YOU THE FOLLOWING
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: and then if I try to delete that note, it says hte note # doesn't exist
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: changing your settings works for now, but you should tell Bast about the problem
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I did send him a message, seems to be afk.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: and a note, I'll try him again, didn't want to bug him too much if it was something dumb on my end.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: http://imgur.com/KUSpThf that's a screenshot example
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are a lot of configuration options in the game, but a plugin not working with some of them isn't something dumb on your end (except for a prompt not ending in %c. prompts shouldn't even be allowed to not end with a break.)
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I actually have my prompt off completely
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hey Fiendish weren't Mush r1845 supposed to update without doing it manually? :P
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Pures: which you should be totally able to do. relying on the prompt is bad form for any script.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: complicated
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: The current newest version auto-updates without hassle?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: the 100% most accurate answer is "back up your MUSHclient directory first before trying it. If it works, then yay! But there continue to be bugs found after 1845, so it might fail and break the folder."
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: the 100% most accurate answer to your second question is "I hope so!"
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: please try it and let me know if it works. It works for me, and it works for Arcidayne and others, but, for instance, it always fails to connect to github for Danj
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hrm I haven't been following the changes with updates, but is there highlighted change(s) past 1845? that I would benefit a lot?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't make changes that I don't think benefit a lot :) Also, yes. If you do package update check it will tell you the differences.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah last update for MUSH even though it was hassle, it was worth it
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to just see the file online with all the change notes, it's here: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/AardwolfPackageChanges.txt
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or maybe this is better https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/AardwolfPackageChanges.txt
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: well, with compact mode off now, it seems that the idinv worked quicker and completed without the script crashing, but it still has the hester shows you, etc in the notes.  I'll go back and read the forum for changes and see if I can figure out where the parser is missing a tag or something
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'll check it throughout day
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: basically if you do 'package update check' and then choose to go forward with the experimental in-place update option and it doesn't hang in the middle of the update and you don't get any error messages and it says it completes successfully, then you're probably good
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Moving forward fast I don't suppose there's more alternative keypad functions added? Such as Alt+keypad num? I remember sometime ago someone replied you can do it yourself, but yeah... been some time
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you have to do that with Accelerators. See here: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Macros#accelerator-the-more-complex-and-more-powerful-way
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: oooo cexits for nomap
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: reading notes right now
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: that's big ++ that I want for sure :p
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just remember that nomap rooms aren't guaranteed to be unique
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so if two nomap rooms share names...
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, the "ignore exit mismatches" toggle tells the mapper to stop paying attention to exits info from the game for the given room (because nomap rooms show no exits)
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I wonder does 1870 break current S&D I'm using
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: from 1845? shouldn't
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah from 1845
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nokfah's version works with 1870
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: doesn't seem like it should nothing really related to mapper
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: apart nomap rooms
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: from r1845, the biggest problem you're likely to encounter with the in-place updater is that it might hang or crash MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not addressed until 1860
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I already have something that hangs Mush, when I start mush, It asks twice if I wanna connect to Aard, I have to close with "No" then I can connect to Aard, not sure where that came from
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I have auto-connect to aard when opening Mush, it used to work fine until it popped asking to connect window
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if I click yes on popup, I can't connect to aard or I think anywhere else
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, I don't know. is it the greeting popup that describes how to interact with miniwindows?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: let me check what exactly it gives me
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm interesting the first popup, trying to connect aardwolf, I have to press No, second popup asking same thing, either Yes/No work and it auto connects, though if I press Yes on first popup I can't connect anywehre
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you able to show a screenshot of what the popup looks like? that might give a clue about how to fix.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I could just disbale world starting up and see what happens then
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe, but that probably won't tell you what's wrong
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: ah well, it's not really an issue seems if I just disconnect/reconnect it establishes connection just fine too
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: heh, this is 4th Mush client copy I have, 2 backups and 1 previous ontop of current
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: auto-update worked from 1845 to 1870
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I hope it didn't break anything!
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I just performed the packate update check crossing fingers
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cool
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: oh yeah there's one thing I was wanting to ask
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: With Statmon, every now and then when I level during combat, it turns black for second or so I'm not sure if you understand what I mean but I guess when statmon is sending data for level up during combat it happens
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the miniwindow turns black?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Nope, I don't have miniwin for statmon
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: My main screen briefly blink black
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: client main screen I guess if that tells anything
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what script is consuming statmon data?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: oh wait nvm, it's bast statmon, not the one coming with your package
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: well anyway Bast statmon blink my mud screen black if I level up during combat, sometimes outside, but mostly when I'm in combat during levelup
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wow. Uh...hmm. Post that on tech board, see if anyone else shares the same problem.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm going to guess that it's somehow related to a very old "black fill" graphics bug in MUSHclient. nobody knows what caused it, though.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: One more thing I though I'd ask, back to first versions I had from MUSH I had this double exp counting on next to Time to tick: bottom left, I can't remember was it plugin outside package or something included with package anyway I got so used to it back in day was wondering if it was something in your client package
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it could be that bug I only ever have it with statmon from bast though
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't have latest bast package, but latest one doesn't have anything related to statmon
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: ok seems that turning off compact, completely deleting the eq.db file and refreshing from scratch has allowed it to read the IDs correctly.  I did delete the DB file earlier this morning but still had the same errors in the ID results, so I think the compact mode is what the final fix was.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: isn't there way to see room ID when standin in room same way as it shows while running, I was under impression one of lastest version had this enabled or possible to enable
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It doesn't show room ID while running...
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: oo it doesn't, I though it did, what does it show then though
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Those are your movement points.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khannon buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: But was there way to display ID though? I know you can do it on miniwin
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can use 'mapper thisroom' if you're using Aardwolf's MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yep know that too, I was wondering more something as default I could set to show
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think you can do it in the main window, only the miniwin.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't strike me as being all the time super useful information
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: anyone have a simple guide on how to create a hyperlink in a miniwindow?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably find one on the MUSH forums.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the answer is no, because making miniwindows isn't simple :9
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: yea i figured, its a huge long involved process to just draw text on the miniwin, let alone hyperlink
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris is agreeing with that The Jerk Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: someone help me out. I remember there was a conversation maybe a week ago about people having trouble re-walking broken paths to find an exit problem. I forget if I decided that I was going to add something for that or not.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I just tend to pay more attention to my MUD screen majority of time then miniwin, ROOM ID's are quite important sometimes for CP'/GQ's anyone I might be alone in this
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: No, fien
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: copy and paste, and tweak would be the best way to go
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish: Your ultimate decision (that I saw) was that there was no real reason to add it because it could aid botters.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: damn 2 year olds hiting return while typing
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Fiendish, you had decided not to add anything
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did I mention something about just printing a more vibrant message on "you can't go that way" or gmcp wallbump notice?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: No
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It wasn't originally mentioned by you. I suggested something to that effect, though.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Maybe I could grab the first gmcp room.wrongdir and colornote it at the end of a run.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I suggested that it stop you and mapper where your location at that point, if it were possible.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Though I know that mapper goto is precisely like runto, so stopping it at the errored room is near impossible.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: In fact, I believe the very original mapper from Nick had both run and also room-by-room walking, and I ripped out a bunch of (but not all of) the room-by-room stuff 
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are a bunch of vestigial "mapper.cancel_something_or_other" calls scattered around the plugin that don't do anything
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I should clean those up
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The room-by-room would mimic z/CMUD's Safe Walking option in mapper, heh.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still think that safe walking is a bit too...safe.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: fiendish just FYI, did happen to me too with jotum path...somehow something changed, and was pretty hard to figure out which room got "broken", just copied/pasted and typed one by one at the end
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: doesn't really happen all that often at all..
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't quite understand how it's hard to figure out which room got broken, since the mud sends "Alas, you cannot go that way" in the bad room
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you make any changes, I'd suggest the following, Fiendish. At the end of the walk, output something like: Speedwalk error. Room 12345 tried to go 'north'.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah that's what I'm thinking
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's difficult because the MUD/speedwalk continues to run you down the path, so you have to backtrack and then take each room separately until you find it again.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yep that's why
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I've had to too, have to figure out first which room it tried to go "south|"
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yes, however it is rare, and it's a copy/paste and pay attention
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think that can only really be true in a run of rooms with all the same name
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if I see "Room A, Room B, Room C, Alas, you cannot go that way, Room D" then I know the problem happened in room C
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but sure. I don't see harm in adding this kind of message at the end
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It's not a big deal to eventually dig out the error, but just time consuming :p
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: another rare case maybe had it happen once or twice, it doesn't always break where you cannot continue runnig/walking, the error can be made earlier it just comes up 5-6 rooms later
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course. it won't break unless you get 3 in a row bumps
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (which is kind of a weird thing, but that's a different issue)
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm I remember it was actually related to some bad cexits I had back then
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: is there any known plugin or function that could give a quick end of market lbid? in date/exact hour? I know can do it manually too, but just wondering if something like thate exists if anything it help lazy :p
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: there is a eq sorter script written by someone, anyone know the name?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Madcatz.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: is there a way to purge a specific mapper room from the DB if you can't get into that room (and don't want to purge the entire area)
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: How confortable are you going into the SQLite DB?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: comfortable enough
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Then that's probably your best route. I don't know of a built-in command.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just click right click and "delete room"
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: That's assuming they can see it on the mapper
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: UNLINKED - Previously Grandmarket Boulevard (The Grand City of Aylor) (32470)
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: "mapper showroom 170"
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I assume I don't see that room anywhere
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: oh mapper showroom does show it
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: ahh, didn't know about showroom, thanks.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: yeah me either, thanks! that worked
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: anyone use blainers scan miniwindow? It's found here, https://code.google.com/archive/p/aardinvwin/downloads    It allows me to set what ctrl-left click does when I click a mob name, but a regular left click is a default command, can someone check code and see it it's possible to change the command entered when I left click?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, portal sharing'll really fuck any potential usefulness of a pre-build DB :P
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: oops
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded gasps as he realizes what Asperger's Cheezburger did.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: We all make mistakes :P
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: In this plugin I can set what ctrl-click does but normal left click does a default command, is there a way I can change what left-click does?  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9783
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fibo: it's his consider window that has the commands, not the scan window...type "conw ?" to see the commands for the consider window ("sl ?" for the scan window)
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: hm, oh
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: I don't have conw plugin, I can change what left click does there?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: anyone know how bast is calculate EQ score in his EQ plugin?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Maths.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: yes but what formulas?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: addition of the scores, I'd say
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help compare
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: You can just open the plugin in notepad++ and see what he uses
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Shouldnt be hard to find
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the scan window doesn't act on the MOBs, because the point of scan is that you're looking for things not in your room, and it's not generally legal to move and then act on them...what clicking does in the scan miniwindow is runs the direction to the MOB and then executes either consider all if you don't have the consider miniwindow, or it executes conw if you do have it 
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the consider miniwindow lets you set an action to perform on the MOB, as you're in the room
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: oh I see, can't get con miniwin to work so far yet though
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although it looks like blainer did put an illegal alternate click action to backstab the MOB after moving to it...surprising from him
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well these are 7 years old...
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: that's right Biker, there is that ctrl-left click command, that's illegal to use?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: is there any newer version of conminiwin around though?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes that's illegal to use
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: any help on error "Line  321: Error parsing script (Cannot load)"   is that mean I need to have it 'execute' instead of script or something?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: often that means that the download messed with the file...make sure you're downloading rather than displaying within your browser...browsers think that they know how to parse XML but they screw it up, so don't open/view and then right-click to save the viewed XML
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or that script is broken, check line starting with asterisk *
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is may looks like that one:  437*: a  if sub17 == "(Diseas" or sub17 == "(White " or sub17
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm I'm using consider miniwin plugin from Gammon forums, the actual part of miniwin doesn't work: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9681&page=999
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: any ideas why miniwin wouldn't work for this plugin? I'm not getting any error on loading plugin and aside from miniwin which doesn't appear plugin works just fine
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it might be displayed behind another miniwin...but for anything that you find in a MUSHclient forum, always read the entire forum thread...there are often many changes to the plugin after the initial post...also note that that post is a 5-months-earlier revision of the plugin from the website Fibo was using
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yeah, I've been going through entire thread now, I didn't find particular issue why miniwin won't show up at all hmmm
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: from this thread, I copy paste the last post made by Nick into notepad well followed quick guide for plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: one from this particular thread posted by Nick is 2014 anyway
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the edit was by Nick, the plugin is not
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nick posted the forum edit for strazor who couldn't post
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: right I'm wondering why miniwin doesn't work though, maybe because last tested mush version was 1802
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think the miniwin is there but behind something else...
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll note that the first post on the page you linked was by Fiendish talking about the fact that the plugin doesn't play with the front/back stuff he wrote into the aard client...if you read the page just before that page, the bottom half of it is someone with the same issue, he found it underneath another window
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah I've tried that since some other plugin's in past have had same thing
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've got to actually move them, can't use the send to back
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khannon goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: found where it was hidin
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: lovely
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was the point of Fiendish's post...send to back only sends to the back of compliant stuff
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it's exactly the plugin I been meaning to look for past weeks now that something was mentioned about it great plugin, I got so annoyed keeping track of mobs same room when levelling to killing stuff in room with more then 5 mobs
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. unactivated w10 - not really crippled seriously? its not so easy to search through rumours these days:)
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I just bought a new laptop with win10....worst OS i've ever used.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Immediately had to nuke it from orbit and put on Xubuntu
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Did you use Win8? :P
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: 10 is 10x worse than 8
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or Vista ? or ME ?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I even got used to Metro, win10 is BS
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: win7 was pretty good but still slows down and starts to crawl at some point:(
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Win 8 and 8.1 should have been nuked alone with Vista and ME.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Disable the Startbar affects, speeds up win7 by 48%
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Never really had severe slowdowns with 7, but 10 certainly is faster for me.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: 10's faster, but the UI is so non-intuative for the user experience thay've been training us for since Win95
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i just installed clean w10 and so far i like it a lot
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Mor epower to you, then. I just happen to absolutely loathe it :P
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: well. bought my first ssd too. so, that might obscure my critizizm
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: mine's SSD as well, the speed isn't my issue, just the UI
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Did you buy the Asus laptop off Prime sale on Amazon too? :P
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: weird. imo the ui is finally nice. i never ever liked any win's uis.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: nope. i have dell optiplex 755. bought 6-7 years ago. for 150 eur.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dotty Tech: Anyone know how to pull out the last and second to last character in a string in mudlet?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I could do it in Lua. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I know how to pull out, but honestly I ain't gonna
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dotty Tech: Hehe, no worries. I'll figure it out.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nooobody Cares raises an eyebrow at Birdbrain Metria's weird actions.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ask me about an old version of zmud.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: string.substring(string, string.leng-2, string.length)
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: length*
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: length, pulling out....this is the tech channel right?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dotty Tech: Ah yes, that should work, thanks!
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne comforts Nooobody Cares.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Btw, Mudlet IS Lua :P
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm.  anyone experienced with a minimal-footprint linux-based samba server?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: What's wrong with Samba?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: umm, what?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Samba is *NIX based...What's wrong with just using Samba?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's your REAL question? I'm assuming you don't care how many people have experience with Samba..
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: nothing is wrong with it.  which is why i asked if anyone had some experience using it in a minimal-footprint system.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's looking for something to throw on old crappy hardware, I think
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: oh no, much worse than that.  im looking for something to throw in an old crappy virtual machine on old crappy hardware.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: "Minimal Footprint" is a catch-all term. What specifically are looking to lose?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and wants to know if we know of some distros that have it as a feature which are OK with the crappy hardware
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, what is the main OS for the virtual machine?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: everything that isnt the samba server, really. you know - 'as small as it can get', hence 'minimal'.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. why not run it native?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Well then I'd suggest any Distro XFCE based.... and their specific flavor of default Samba...
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i was assuming some variety of linux, but i could consider other options.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Docker or full VM?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean what is running the VM, not what is the VM running?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i think my software is old enought that question doesnt apply, cheez.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: heh, win2k.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Then you'd be wrong :)
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno why you'd put an entire OS on just to pretend to do windows filesharing
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just let Win2k do the sharing...that's what Samba is pretending to do anyway
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I agree with Biker, honestly.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you doing it in a VM to keep a learning exercise separate from your main stuff, or something?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: because my virtual linux machines can use my new hd, and windows chokes on it.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: ...wut
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ohhh, this is that 3TB thing that I've seen you talking about
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Anything in your VM MUST go through windows anyways.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: yeah, its an ongoing project.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: cheez: youd like to think that.  i know i would.  but so far my testing says otherwise.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: There's literally no way to connect ANYTHING to a VM without going through your Host machine. In which case, just use host capabilities.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: cheez: youd like to think that.  i know i would.  but so far my testing says otherwise.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, except when the hardware supports direct IO
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: If the machine is this old that it's a question...that's not an option
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: well, 'supports' is kind of a strong word.  strictly speaking, its an unsupported development option of the vm... but my experience with other vms says its pretty solid.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: cheez: the software i happen to be using is not related to docker, so 'full vm' is more likely to be the answer.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm still a little lost on why you're putting this in a VM
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: because the native os doesnt see the new hard drive.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I don't know anywhere to begin to help you. If your Host machine can't handle it, I see no reason why a VM could. And the fact that does, moves outside of everything I know
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i too am puzzled.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: but yeah, in a linux vm, i can read/write every sector.  windows just says 'nuh uh, thats not a thing.'
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: that makes sense when you're talking NATIVE OS's
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: it does not, however, when talking about VMs
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: It's probably an ext3 or ext4 FS
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i dont explain the news, i just report it.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and i did my initial testing on the raw device, no filesystem.  dont even get me started on what i had to do to get it partitioned.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: This is a SATA drive, right?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for W2k, MS says For now, 2 terabytes should be considered the practical limit for both physical and logical volumes using NTFS.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sata, yes.  and i would be happy with much smaller partitions, so filesystem size shouldnt be an issue.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Any idea why? It's not 32 bit i'm assuming, so I'm curious why there's a 2TB limit
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Which stops at just short of 4Gb, but that's the only limiter I know of in terms of storage access
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: not sure - i expected to see an entirely different error when i plugged it in.  like only seeing 746 or so gb for total size.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: partition tables were 32bit sector counts, at 512b sectors
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askcore/2010/02/18/understanding-the-2-tb-limit-in-windows-storage/
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: yeah, pretty sure its not really a partition table or filesystem limitation, since the blank unpartitioned drive is what windows choked on.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: well thats odd - the technet link just forwards me to their front page :(
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm, xfce looks like a gui front-end.  its the back end im looking for :p
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, just looked at my twitterbot feed and noticed that it's got the q completes but not the q requests...checked the code and there's an "/if (whoami=~"aard_abelinc")" clause
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asperger's Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne cackles gleefully at you.  Better keep your distance from him. 
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Now you need an in clause for a list of toons :P
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scrolling down the feed and can see my quests from the 20th when I was on him
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I can just put the if into the tweet command itself, then I can use the command wherever without checks
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asperger's Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I already do that..."/tweet" and "/tweetstats" are defined as noops for eureka
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Biker needs to write better code. *srun*
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my code's all so old I don't remember much of what the thought process was at the time
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I do the same thing. Comments are useful.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: Thought process? That's a bit optimistic, isn't it?
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm pretty good with the comments
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: I'm pretty sure 90% of my code was written by some brain-dead simulacrum.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: if blah then bleh end -- Don't know what I want to do here, but it looks good! *snicker*
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I still use my spellup script from before full-auto spellups were legal (last real modify to that was 2008), in addition to the one I re-write when spelltags came in
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so I mostly rely on the new one, but the old one's got some cool features that would be harder to replicate using new stuff than using saf
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I do my spellups in longhaand using a fountain pen, then use OCR to type it on screen, its  always worked for me.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: Pretty sure OCR is against automation policies. If you don't type it yourself...
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i wrote some basic ocr stuff for a class project once.  it did pretty well, unless 'f' was perfectly formed - for some reason it insisted on calling that 'G'.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my pots and spellups scripts used a pretty nifty auto-setup tool which would send finger, grab level, race, pclass (and subsequent classes), tier, clan, would type owned and wish to determine what aardeq and wishes you have, then ask some questions based on that for preferences
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the hardest part of OCR is deciding what the spatial bounds of each letter are
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: cough* cursive cough*
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you can find that a region covers _a_ letter, then the rest is easy
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seechiriki Tech: The hardest part of PCR is avoiding contamination of the DNA.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: its all about living that gta.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: the hardest part of a VCR is the outer case
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that is interesting Fiendish, but that makes sense!
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: the hardest part of a CR is getting the newbie grouped
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NCIS taught me that Washington, DC has no "J" street because back then they couldn't reliably tell the difference between "I" and "J"
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ducky For President!
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: He's Scottish.  No go.
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: OCR is a feature detector -> feature descriptor -> descriptor match process, but detecting what's an actual text feature is either expensive or misses a lot
T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I thought Ilya was Russian!
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: I have about a dozen processes named svchost running, is that normal? I've been having some trouble with virus lately...
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It's normal
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it's probably normal
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: scvhost is sort of a generic windows thing
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Windows (especially windows 10) can have lots of scvhosts running
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: svchost is just a generic name for services that run from windows libraries
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: ok, I know the 12 instances of something called conime.exe can't be normal... it's a microsoft service that helps translate chinese characters or something
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Same thing
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Conime.exe process is used when a Asian laguage is used in Windows
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: multiple conime is ok?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: if you're having problejms try a tool called hijackthis
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Multiple is fine, unless you're not using anything asian related, like keyboard etc
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it will generate a log file and you can have various tools (like hijackthis.de) analyze the running processes and tell you what is safe and what is not
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: I'm not using chinese internet or studying there language..
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: If you arent, then just run cccleaner to fix it
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I'm not using french, but I have a dumb canadian english/french keyboard, so I get random crap from that
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: yea, definetley haven't been using asian keyboard, hmm.. net says conime is popular name for virus ah well, might try the hijack thing
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Just run cccleaner first, it usually fixes like 99% of problems
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Haaalp.  My desktop is having huge problems.  Came back from a trip and my screen was completely frozen (I leave it on all the time.  It's a brand new system though.  Got it 3 months or so ago).  Tried to reboot, and it ran the fans for a second... but then the fans stopped, and all I could hear is my HDD spin fast every 3 seconds or so.  No signal went to my monitors.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sounds like it's probably under warranty
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: hdd heads are probably damaged
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: does it smell like burning?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: After a few times of holding down the power button and trying to boot again, it finally got a signal (fans remained on) which said to press F1 to run setup, or F2 to continue.  Hit F2 and it booted normally.  Lasted a day, then froze.  This morning it was freezing on windows start up.  This time, however, it's been running for about 20 minutes
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: It does not, Dolt.  Also, my OS is on my SSD.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: HDD is a secondary drive
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: i'd suspect overheating
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cooling problems can cause freeze, bad psu or memory also
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: check all your fans inside are going
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however if you get F1/F2 there should be also some kind of error message
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: It's likely a simple...did not shut down properly, Trachx
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: so likely overall issue psu/mem etc
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: The F1 F2 screen just showed my comp specs.  Devices connected, processor, RAM, etc.  All looked fine.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: unplug any usb devices etc if you have any
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I checked temperatures, and they looked fine.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It's not overheating
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I guess if it happens again I'll take it in.  It's all under warranty
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: then memtest maybe
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: memtest?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: http://www.memtest.org/\
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: without the \ i'm clumsy
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Can't really overheat on boot, or more likely memory/psu like said, I had similar issue with old PC, PSU I replaced PSU 5 times total
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: even more of chance for PSU if it's new rig
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some manufactures like Dell provide testing utilities that can be run during boot
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Jeez
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: a dodgy memory chip can cause hard resets at all sorts of times, and then not for a while.. but a psu or overheating can do the same, it's hard to say, if you've ruled out heat, check the others
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Hmm, do I need to burn that memtest thing to a CD?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Can't boot from a virtual drive I assume. :P
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: <-- no CD drive.  Haven't used one in years.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: yeah or usb, heh nah a VM won't do
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Oh right, duh, USB
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: anyone know where i can find winkle's spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urzin Tech: I thought it was still at the address in winklewinkle's finger info
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: that explains it... fing'ed winkle
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: how do i add a clan skill to WW's spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: spellup help
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: tells you what to do
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: what was the weather like while you were away, naer? any storms at the pc's place?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: rofl! i just found a single-port pci-e serial card.  the comedy, it burns...
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: is there a technical way to tell your project partner that he is a moron for not standardizing how he is accepting floats over a UDP server?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: actions speak louder than words.  brand the relevant code into his forhead.  backwards, so he can read it in the reflection from his monitor.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: how about telling him he is suffering from an id10t error?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I like both, I will mix the two solutions
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: So far he has decided that accepting it as a string is the best answer...
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ... well, there are worse options.  i suppose ieee spec is out?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: crash his server? He'll learn his lesson
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: anyone using the potionquafferV2 that comes with Bast's scripts?  The 'pots' command doesn't write the quantities of the pots to their variables, I checked the function and don't even see where it would write to the variables, just gets the list and that's it...
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I need this to work though. I wrote an app in java that grabs hand positions from a kinect.. he is supposed to accept those and use them in a google cardboard app
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am worried now that the whole project will result in a falure due to his part of the assignment
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that right there is why i always hated group projects.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: like most group projects
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: seriously though, I'd talk to your manager
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: then again, my team accidentally won the tictactoe championship due to one member's poor table-translations.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: That's what we'd do in my dept...go to operations
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I know the professor personally so he sticks me with the hopeless causes.. I guess the thinking is I will help them become better programmers
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: While I do try to help them.. it gets really hard to do the whole dang project on your own every time
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: BTW I am not exactly a pro at this either, I usually have to learn a whole new language/spec/system every time he does this to me
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: have you thought about shooting him?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: not a coincidence.  you go to school to learn, not for a fashion show.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am going to school to change careers.. while I am there to learn I am NOT there to make sure other people are learning
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you could also put him in a room with abelinc for a 15 minute 1 on 1
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: that would be harsh
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: An Ancient Moofie :o)
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am an older student, I don't have time to personally tutor a bunch of 18-20 year olds on why they should consider fast food jobs
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i didnt get the french fry upsell lecture until my last 499 class :(
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: If only abe lived in the greater Philly region!
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: singularitabe is everywhere.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I just hate people who can't do the simple programming assignments, or parts, when this is a 400 level class
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I wonder if I can hire Abe to swing by my town and lock those two in a room for a while
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I figure all I need is some bus fare for him and to dangle a helpless person in front of him, that should satisfy our agreement.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: woah! Abe has been off for 3 days? Who is logging all the channels?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded pokes you in the ribs.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's not unreasonable to believe Abelinc has alts.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it's also not unreasonable to believe Abelinc
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'd know all his alts, too, if you paid attention to the boards.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Especially ideas boards.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I don't read the boards much ;)
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but if his alts share ideas.. is that considered multiplaying?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, gonna go digest some powder. Have fun.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: only if the ideas are profitable.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Arc cocaine is bad for you
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naughty Neji Tech: Is it possible to use some of the miniwindows in mushclient on other muds also on mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: other ... muds.  im familiar with the words, but i dont think they go together that way.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: We don't really like to help people play other MUDs here. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The short answer is not Aardwolf's mini-windows. Those are custom to Aardwolf's output.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naughty Neji Tech: Thanks :P
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neryx Tech: Is there any way to introduce a pause into a mapper custom exit?  Something like send X to MUD, wait 2 seconds, send more commands?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: wait(<seconds>)
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: as another command in the mapper cexit
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neryx Tech: Perfect, thanks.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: In mush I am trying to trigger off "You get 4,663 gold coins from the hammered corpse of a merchant." but I cannot figure out the pattern matching i tried "You get * gold coins from *" but that didnt work anybody know?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: do you want to trigger off gold or mob death?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: gold, i am lazy so writing a script to get gold from all the corpses if i am blinded
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: after curing blindness of course
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: what's the regex pattern for optional argument again? ^k(?: \w+)$ or something right?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Optional as in it might be there or not?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (?:\w+)? would be the answer.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: you need the space though
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: either your alias is "k" or it's "k bob"
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So put the space in. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: heh ok
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ^k(?: \w+)?$
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: thanks for confirming
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: and what's the logic I would use to check if () has a value again?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: if %1 or something?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: if "%1" ~+ ""
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er... if "%1" ~= ""
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That means if %1 is not empty.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I was wondering what black magic ~+ was
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne casts a spell to cause Sonet's client to lock up.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's black magic for you.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A macabre Sonet thaws his client and sits down to ponder why Arci hates him so much.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because you're almost Shakespeare. You're just missing an 'n'. And that bothers me. :D
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you miss a lot more than just an 'n', arci
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It is Tenos backward not a Shakespeare "sonnet"
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Pleiades.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It doesn't matter. People interpret how they want! *blink*
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Use a trigger to correct it when my name comes up
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have yours set to Arcy
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I accidentally added some code to the mapper to enable doing a mapper goto _inside_ of another mapper goto. except I can't for the life of me think of a time when that would ever be useful. thoughts?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vidblain
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: labyrinth?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not following
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, not necessary for labyrinth
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No need for Labyrinth.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Vidblain is about the only place, really.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, you mean because vidblain drops randomly?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for vidblain, you've gotta re-orient yourself after entering it
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I was kidding It seems useless, unless you want a way to die
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Vidblain and Xyl's, in fact (gardens in Xyl)
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you have to re-orient yourself after entering abelinc as well
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, mapper goto as a cexit with a wait is a solution for the random drop in Xyl
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Vidblain it's easier to just get a Sendhia portal
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so I guess the next question is whether I should leave this code in or remove it. it's quite short. I'll want to add loop detection, though.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does the code look for arriving in the one room before executing the goto?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'd vote leave it in. even if it's only useful in one or two situations it's still useful.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: useful is not my only selection criterion
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: How do you activate the code though?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it activates when pathfinding is done while a path is being run
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: from 472, the cexit I use is: say gardens;wait(1);mapper goto 455
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and it works kind of on the same principle as cexit waits
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cexit waits do a round-trip to the server with hidden echos
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd say leave it in, especially if it doesn't hurt anything.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's how I manage to do things at the right time without actually having decision logic that tracks where you are along the way
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm worried that it will invalidate mazes
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is balanced against my worry that mazes are in general a bad idea
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unless it walked the maze for you, it won't.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The exits in maze rooms are -1, so you never know which room is which.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ergo, 'mapper goto 1;mapper goto 2;mapper goto 3' will never work in a maze.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I think it could run a special function to get you through the maze (somehow) and then hit mapper resume on the far side
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: some people would consider that to be a good thing, of course
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: automazewalkers are illegal, but the resume on the other side is OK I think
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not actually certain that this plan would work of course
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are maze walkers illegal?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that would kinda solve my dilema
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't know that there is some special function. There was Swalec's automaze navigator, but really, any script is going to take far more time to navigate a maze than you would manually.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they require no input between rooms, yes
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: --h 30
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you must hit a key to try the next room, then they're OK
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good scripts would navigate a maze much faster than manually (but slower than fasthunt)
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, maybe. The problem I see is that a script would have to mark each exit as invalid until it finds the right one, and repeat the process.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: At least manually, I can look and see three red stars, so I know not to go that direction.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't have to mark it as invalid, it merely marks it as what it is...what it tries next can vary based on where it ends up...but it will be 4 rooms in before you react to those 3 stars
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, I'm actually not convinced that this would even change access to vidblain without a change to what I have
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: since any exit needs a set destination, I'm not seeing where and how you would employ an embedded goto 
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think I'd need to add something like dangling exits that have no set destination. that's tricky because they obviously need a destination to be part of a path to anywhere
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh maybe...
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There we go, powder all gone. Ugh, tastes horrible.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er... mis...
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: speaking of vidblain
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: was its entrance not before a blank spot on the map?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: isn't it still?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hm. maybe. hard to see with low screen brightness.
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Looking to have someone write a pretty simple C# script for me to take a website and parse it for some data... send a tell if interested. Will pay (negotiable)
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't want to use parsehub?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: its even more straightforward, i just don't have time to write it myself
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: basically want to lookup a bunch of pages that present data in XML and parse the XML
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is there any miniwindow plugin that shows mobs in your room?
T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: I'd like mush to start without loading all my plugins, then if possible have one plugin that I can use to enable other plugins manually as I see fit?, also can I stop bast auto update checker thing?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Any good narrow fixed width fonts for mudding?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: dina
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RockItLike Anaristos Tech: I like Dina
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: currently using :p
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RockItLike Anaristos Tech: Dina 8
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RockItLike Anaristos Tech: Miriam Fixed is also nice
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: Does anyone else get color bleeding with ColourNote?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: any ideas why my mapper tries to use a portal in a room marked noportal?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: because that's where you set up the portal at?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I think he means to leave an area
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: yeah that's what i mean
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Not sure, mine sometimes runs to portal safe areas
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Other time it just sits there
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Not sure if there's a way to set portalable rooms in an area
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: i know you can manually set noportal rooms
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: i tried that as well, but it doesn't seem to make a difference
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: how would I bind commands to like the f1 f2 key and etc in the mush client?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the keyword you are looking for is 'macro'.
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: ahh didn't think to look for that, thank you :)
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: there is noway to still make cexit shorter then 2sec(default) right? 
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: there is
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: sec
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the 2 second pause is only there for setting it. after it's set, there's no pause
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: back to 1845, there it was 2sec minimum according to Fiendish though
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: oh... maybe 2 is the min for setting
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yes, I basically need no pause from default settings
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I guess it's no possible since 2sec is always there
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: then it'll always fail cause it'll send and end the cexit in the same room
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I need it 1second to do something which makes 1 room fail difference anyway
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: you can add a wait in the middle
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: No I mean the default to be 1sec down from 2
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what're youtrying to do?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hax cexits!
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: if you were so inclined you could maybe directly modify the mapper code
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: so you could set any arbitrary value that you want
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: actually, something like default 1sec (down from 2), then add 1sec pause middle of line, and cexit total being 2sec that would work too
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: currently, since it's default 2sec, if I add pause middle it's total 3sec, which is eternity long
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sounds like user error to me
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: the 3 sec is just when you're creating it. when you use it, it would actually be 1
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: what cexit are you trying to set? having a hard time understanding what would break currently
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if you done any cexits with autohunt you'd have better idea what I'm talking about
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i have but since you wanna keep this super secret...
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sounds like user error
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I have too, problem is, with 2sec default timer it shoots past, 1 room random exit
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: for 2 room random maze it works perfect the default timer
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello, what's the question?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: seems it is cheaper to replace a television than to get netflix onto a TV with coax or component video.
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: Okies ... my fingers just did some unintended stuff which I can't seem to bring back up again, so I have no idea what I did. All of my mini-windows vanished, and I'm left with just the main window and the command box. Can someone tell me how to get everything back again?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: No one has any idea?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: resetaard ?
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: well, I'll try that, but I think it will come back the way it is. I must have put some sort of settings command in there. Restarting.
T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Google made Nik Collection free today. https://www.google.com/nikcollection/
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: want to alias something like   'potbuy *' , and have it 'put all.%1 <bag id>' but that won't work probably because of the period.. any ideas for what I need to have in send window?
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: anybody with mush/sqlite experience?
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: lots of people...
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ask what you really want to know, you'll get better responses :)
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan is agreeing with that Birdbrain Metria person again...
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm kind of new to all this. i want to insert what's in my mushclient %variable into an sqlite db.
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Does this db exist? Or are you creating it from scratch?
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i know i'm supposed to db:execute an insert, but how do i get the variable's value into the statement?
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: since the statement is not a "" string where i could just "something"..getvariable().."something"
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: metria i'd like to know both ways
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: since in the same function i'll test if the db/table exists, if not i'll create them
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: anyone using Bast's eqDB plugin?  It's working almost perfectly, just noticed it's not writing the resistmods, statmods, or affectmods to the SQL DB. I'm wading through the code to see what's doing, but have never used LUA before.  Just wondering if anyone else has encountered this or fixed it or if I'm doing something wrong?  It's writing all the other stats to the DataBase just fine.  No errors either being reported.
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's way more sqlite info than anyone ever wants here:  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9262
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: thanks for the info.  It's gotta be something dumb I'm doing or something small in the scripts somewhere.  Bast seems to be AFK since the 18th.
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what's wrong with this line?: lobisomem.execute([=[create table if not exists areas (name, keyword);]=])
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What error do you get?
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: expected :sqlite3 got string
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: as argument to execute that is
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: this sqlite thing is driving me crazy heh :p
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: just store the data in a lua table / text file unless you absolutely must use sqlite
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How much data are you planning on saving? Is this something that will actually benefit from the overhead of adding sqlite to it?
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: do lobisomem:execute instead of lobisomem.exeute
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: orn :D
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: @Morn :D
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that little brat dot
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i need to make it persist offline (the data), and i think it would be just as much work developing my own "txt" databse
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: nod, db:func(arg) is equivalent to sqlite.func(db, arg), it's a lua thing
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem test
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem writes down that Morn guy's name.
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's something else i was wondering. the : notation
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: If you're going to be working with Lua quite a bit, it's worth skimming the documentation, even if you dont retain much of it
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what about the difference between [[ and [=[
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: You'll at least recognize things like that and it will help down the road
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: maybe so that you can have [[ ]] inside the string?
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: last question (promisse with visibly uncrossed fingers): how do i insert the value of a mushclient (or even lua) variable inside the [[]]'s?
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: every "insert" example gives hard values
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: couldn't find any retrieving variable values
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: the idiomatic (at least in the scope of mushclient plugins) is to do string.format("insert into table values (%s)", value)
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool. i can see it's not as smooth as i expected, hence the suggestions to go .txt :p let's see how far i can go. thank you very much for the answers
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: since :execute() takes a string as argument, maybe i can just "insert into table values\(" .. GetVariable() .. "\)"?
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why wouldn't you use a prepared statement?
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i thought preparing statements was for information extraction not insertion
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Doesn't have to be. Anyway, the code sample on this page shows you how to insert data and use prepared statements, so you can pick whichever method you prefer.  http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=DatabaseStep
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thank you very. that will be enough for me to start.
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: very much*
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: time to go to bed or face wifury
T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Heheh, good luck
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what do you guys use to "share/show" code?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: dropbox / pastebin
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: will "setarea:lower()" work whenever "string.lower(setarea)" does?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lua
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hey Fiendish you alive?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lobisomem: no. only when setarea is a string.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon what's up
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: fiendish arent you the code legend?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean the aardmush guy?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lobisomem: string.lower() actually succeeds silently if input is a number, because it converts that to string first
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes I am
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's me
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Question about 2 plugins, Consider coloured version by Nick, it doesn't seem to color 2 mob ranges very well when using with Consider miniwin plugin, since first one is made by Nick and other one is edited by him I see you been part on these both topics is there I can't seem to find out why it's having difficulties sometimes with Best run away while you can and very brave or very stupid ranges
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so that means variable:lower() will not convert variable to string automatically but string.lower(variable) will?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm guessing it could have something to do with shortflags like {G} {R}
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon, can you restate the question with whole sentences? I'm having trouble understanding.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lobisomem: if variable isn't type string then it won't have a lower member function
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Ok in short, 2 plugins don't seem to get along to well, 'Aardwolf "consider" plugin' and 'Aardwolf Consider all miniwindow.' - The issue is 1st plugin doesn't properly color 2 mob ranges when using with 2nd plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you do    foo = 5; foo:lower()   or foo = {5}; foo:lower()   then it will give you an error saying either that you tried to index into a number or that foo has no member function lower
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon: Are all the consider ranges correct?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As in the trigger messages match all consider ranges?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so variable:lower() can't convert because because variable:lower doesn't even exist if variable isn't a string
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: string.lower always exists (unless you remove or replace it)
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm sec, I'll disable both plugins and check the default
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: though I'm quite positive they match
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (side comment on . vs : in these explanations)    the reason it's string.lower and variable:lower is because : is actually shorthand for the combination of . where the first argument is the thing itself
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yep consider ranges match
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: variable:lower() is functionally identical to variable.lower(variable) 
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so if you look at it that way, variable.lower(variable) can only happen if variable contains a function called lower
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Does it just not fire on all mobs of the same range, or does it fire intermittently, as in some mobs, but not other mobs?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: links to both plugins online?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: In majority it has failed almost all Best run away * while you can! mob ranges, doesn't seem to be true to one up from it
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lobisomem: a second note is that string.lower() will not convert _everything_ to a string first. it just happens to accept numbers too. It will not, for instance, serialize a table, or tostring nils.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thanks for the additional info.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: One sec I'll link
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9681&page=999 "miniwin consider"
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=8847 "coloured consider"
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which one is giving the problems?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: irrelevant
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think I see part of the problem.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the problem is obviously because they omit from output
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ^(.*?) Best ... -- should not have that space before Best.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (not serious)
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles at The Jerk Fiendish's joke.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I disabled miniwin, actually miniwin does display colors, I think miniwin part of problem is Best run away while you can not showing at all
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: colored counterpart is not coloring Best run away, brave and stupid at all
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Should remove the space before "You" on "You would be completely...
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It was careless programming to do ^(.*?) yadda in the first place. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm, which plugin has that space Arcidayne?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: miniwin has an extra space before Best run away
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (what is that .*? there for though?)
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Presumably for flags?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: flags on consider?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, flags.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (G) A tiny spider would be easy, but is it even worth the work out?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I just remove space right?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Khannon.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh I see
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: when done you should post these fixes to the forum
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: going to check miniwin now
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yup miniwin works correct for it now
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: any ideas for coloring it outside miniwin?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica enthusiastically high-fives Khannon!
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh the colour plugin doesnt account for flags :P
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't always run with miniwin enabled or conw auto, it's only great for levelling for me gives to much lag through echo
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yeah, but only true for 2 ranges then?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah, any that don't start with *
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By the way, Fiendish: Figured out why the URLs weren't opening from MUSH. Had nothing to do with the plugin or MUSHclient, but the fact that Windows 10 decided Chrome wasn't compatable with the latest update, so it was removed as a valid app from my computer. Since it was the default for hyperlinks, my computer had no idea what to do and kicked back an error.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: heh, interesting
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder what makes it not compat.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: how the hell did you convince it to ignore IE?!
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm how do I add flags?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: This is like people reporting that links to google.com break in ios9.3
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: reminds me of nick lamenting that mush fullscreen got broken by windows more recent versions
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nick likes to rant about new versions of microsoft products. I think he'd be happy if he upgraded to MSVC2015 though since it's free now
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also for all of his rants, Microsoft maintains a level of backward compatibility that is unheard of from anyone else
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not sure what makes it non-compatible, but I read something that Windows 10 was disabling apps that weren't compatible for security concerns.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: khannon: in the spirit of how the others are done, just add * to the beginning of the line
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If they're regexed (not sure if they are), you'll want (.*)? instead.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: none of those are
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: doesn't * indicate for mobname?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion * indicates any char
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: * indicates wildcard.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: ah right
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not necessary to use for variables, its just matching lines to color them
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah just by adding * fixed issue
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Best run away from Endymion while you can!
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: so both plugins seem to work now
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: thanks for all help!
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: post fixes to the forum :)
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: acutally half of colored consider missing *, just not going inot areas with much lower level mobs
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: after doubles
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: well both of these threads are closed
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting. I can open them back up
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I made an account to post my awesome findings
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try this one now http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=9681&page=999
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll re-open the other one too
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: threads should be unlocked now
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: huh 1 port per 30min
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: post*
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: that's pretty heavy spam countermeasure :p
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 60ms Avg: 80ms Max: 103ms}
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er, mis.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: yeah. re: spam countermeasure, I tried convincing him to do it a different way
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Editing your own post has same delay, huh
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Botcheck with 2min delay is usually I've seen used in forums
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wanted him to detect spam and then ban after detection instead of trying to prevent it
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because the only kind of spam this blocks is where someone floods the board with garbage posts rapidly
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is pretty easy to detect
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't know how many postings are made daily in this forum, but if I was daily active poster that would be quite annoying blocker
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think it gets lifted after some time as an established poster.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I forget, though.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't suppose there is somekind of public plugins repository? I guess every creator has some personal box for it, but I was wondering if there is plugin or script to "Auction will end in   : 2 day and 06:20:09" calculate actualt date/time, when I make quick notes for auctions I'm interested I often end up forgetting that auction completely because I was to lazy to actually add time/date.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I know someone had suggested it, but not sure if someone drew up a plugin for it. I could probably create one, but I'm in the middle of doing some schoolwork before working tonight.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: That would be in my eyes extremely convenient!
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Write a personal note to me, and I'll look into it tomorrow when I'm free. I'm off until Wednesday after tonight.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Alright
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: MUSHclient is showing {rdesc] and {/rdesc} when the ASCII mapper plugin is disabled or removed.  Doesn't affect anything, just annoying.  Only found rdesc in that plugin xml.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Take a look at tags.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: it is set to on
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So turn it off. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: did, thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: didn't know about tags, very much appreciated
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: how do you take a screenshot of mush?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: alt+printscr ?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: and then paste into paint or whatevr?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ctrl+print screen
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: or paste striaght to imgur
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: thx
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: or use 'snipping tool' if you are running windows.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: nod, win+r; snippingtool.exe; enter
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: should work on 7+
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: and where does it save the screenshot?
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: in memory, ctrl-v should put out your screenshot
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i.e.:  open word or excel, click on the new page.  ctrl-v     or   open mspaint, click on the mspaint screen, ctrl-v.
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: thanks again
T3/r7/2016-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: thank you for the bug report about automap rdesc tags that I almost didn't see because it went here instead of to me. it'll be fixed in the next release.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: anybody know the command for locking and unlocking layout in mush?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: aard layout unlock/lock
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: yeah google told me.. thanks tho :)
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: anyone have a moment to answer a stupid .api question?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: quickest/shortest way to get the last word from a string? e.g.: "guy" from "a big guy"
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lua
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: google
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: string.sub will work well
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: gsub
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: or split it by whitespace and only take the last
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: got it: /Note(string.match("a small guy", "%w+$"))
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is there a clean way to use non-golden chaos portals with the mapper such that they don't get used during gquests but do get used during campaigns?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: having a situation with trying to get mapper portal set to have amulet take me to the lower astral planes... anyone know what I'm sayin?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Naughty Neji is agreeing with that Fibo person again...
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Well the amulet isnt specificaly for the planes....More of a corridor of portals nested inside Amusement park:P
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i knew there was something "weird" about that park
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: yea, kinda figure it out, mgt 29364 is working now with it
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: mgt, my mapper goto * alias thingy
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I just made an alias that said mapper goto 29365 and have mapper use that
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: 29364 that is
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: oh that's what I needed I think, thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I used the word planes most of the time I just skip mapper and type planes.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I have scan sent to another window, now I want scan output to be gagged in main output, I tried "^\d* ?(Up|Down|Right|North|South|East|West) .*here you see:$"     but it still shows  "     - (G) A mob"  for example...
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: trying to omit my scan from output, trying to match on the dash (-) and name of mob after it using "^\s{5}\- (?!--+).+$"    but not working...
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: can you paste the line you're trying to match/ignore
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: - (G) Yajan
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: isn't there a part you're trying to ignore also?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: might be a multiline deal, I got all the "north from here you see:" out but just left with a list of     - (G) whoevers     
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I would suggest not trying to "escape" the spaces
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: want to omit all output of command scan
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just match on \s+\-
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so it'll match any number of them
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: then escape all of the (Golden Aura) stuff by just doing like a ([A-Za-z]+)
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I would do: ^\s+\- \(([A-Za-z]+)\) ((\[A-Za-z]+\))? ([A-Za-z]+)$
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and capture the third group, though you'll probably have to add in some other stuff in the third capture group like spaces, commas, etc. as mob names can contain them
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: regex might be a bit off since I didn't test it, but that's the main idea
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you'll have to keep repeating that first capture group with the parentheses escaped for all of the auras, angry, etc.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and do ? marks at the end since they're "optional"
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the final one will be the mob name and it's not optional so you'll capture that group
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so I copied the mapper db into memory before pathfinding a realy long path, and the search time got longer. :\
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm mega confused by that result
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: did you copy it into memory repeatedly on accident? 
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, the copy is done before the timing test anyway
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (it also completes extremely quickly, which may indicate shenanigans)
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: shenanigans is a tech term?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: everything is the same otherwise? 
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: identical
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is there a mirror for aardmush download?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not progressing for me
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Where are you trying to download it from?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: aardwolf site download link
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: doesn't get past 0.1mb
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Please use the link in Fiendish's finger.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's the upgraded version. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Agreed.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i guess my net is just shit then
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: {Ping to aardwolf.com Min: 65ms Avg: 81ms Max: 125ms}
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I have crap ping times.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do i do that?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: With a script. :P
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ah
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: downloading at 7.3Kb/s
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is that normal?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't know. Depends on your internet speed.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well seems my provider is playing games with me
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not necessarily.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They can't throttle your speeds anymore.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: tried another download (something else, different site), same result
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Could be a faulty connection somewhere.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you mean wires?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm guessing you're not too tech-savvy (not meaning it as an insult, just an observation).
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well yeah, heh. what do you mean by faulty connection?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: somewhere in the path to aard server?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your ISP could be having some connection problems (it's been known to happen), a storm could be creating problems between your link and your ultimate destination, maybe someone is using up all the bandwidth on your ISP, many things.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh i see
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or you just have low-grade speeds.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: happens quite often
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're paying for basic tier speeds, then you can't expect super-fast results.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's 10megs, i can usually download at ~1.2mb/sec
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And if you're on dialup, then don't expect results at all. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Cable?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i live in a moderately developed location. it's adsl
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Could very well be interference on the dsl line, then.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm guessing AT&T?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not USA :p brazil
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm not guessing AT&T then.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah, GVT
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you don't know it do you?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm guessing you're a bit of a tech savvy (not meaning it as a compliment, just an observation)
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Global Village Telecom?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: JK! heh
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah that's the one
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well turns out you know your IT stuff
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, they can throttle your speeds. Figured you were US, but apparently not.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i live in a southeast-central state in brazil, midsized town. gvt started here. i suspect infrastructure might be old *shrug*. GVT is/was way better when i lived in the northeast
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but it had jut gotten there
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well it finally downloaded lol
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so, oh'god'o'communications (jk), if i just throw it in a C:\folder, is it going to mess my C:\otherfolderwithstockmushclient folder up?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not at all.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool. i had some win7 problems before so i thought it could be the two simultaneous folders (aard and stock)
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Interesting, I can't even ping gvt.com.br. I can access the page, but request times out trying to ping them. *shrug*
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so maybe it's their fault after all?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Could be.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: two/three years back their international links to brazil got down. it took like a couple of days for them to fix it
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: =5 10
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i need mapper portal help heh
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how to add my academy portal as the "runprefix" for my mapper?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper help portals. mapper doesn't start the run from a set place, it finds the best path from where you are.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i retrieve a room's vnum without aardmush client?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: help rstat.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: peeps cant use rstat, right?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure they can.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In your manor :D
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They can use it in their own manors.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As well as the manor of a spouse.
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh ti god, how can my humble triggers retrieve room vnums?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: for a homemade automapper
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: gmcp?
T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh so that's how it comes?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how can i tell the mapper to find only "exact match" rooms?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: quotation marks
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: alright, dumb question time, why is \\\SetVariable("areakeyword gallows hill", "gallows") not yielding any results? no variable is created... :(
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: not sure you can have spaces in variables
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: try areakeyword_gallows_hill
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: in variable names*
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: works :p
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: variable name rules are kinda odd
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think they also need to start with a letter
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't ask why
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thought since they were strings anyway, they could be any valid string, turns out not true though
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can triggers match mapper notes?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: checking
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's your use case?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i wanna trigger the "no more 'mapper next' rooms" note
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok but why?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well i'm just trying stuff out
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm attaching sounds to my stuff
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: no big deal though
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: those messages are just ColourNotes and mushclient won't trigger on notes
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I could potentially use Simulate instead, but converting anything informational to Simulate runs significant risks
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i guess i can go take a look at the "mapper next" function itself
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I could add callback functions or other silent messaging, but I'd need to know what it's really for in order to do that right
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll find it in lua/aardmapper.lua::gotoNextResult
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I used to have a decent use case.. can't remember what I was trying to do now though :|
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that happens to me a lot
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: found a workaround ya know..
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's pretty much just to let the scripting environment know there are no more matching rooms
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: are programming questions appropriate here?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: callback functions, i don't know how they work (what they are) exactly. any links or brief descriptions?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "just to let the environment know" becomes the lowest priority request
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/824234/what-is-a-callback-function
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool. i think i got it.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: won't the mapper open doors on gotos?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: (and unlock)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: cexits
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so in order for the mapper to open a door i have to add a "custom exit" to the rooms at both sides of the door?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: lobi only for cexits
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: so if you had to type 'enter trapdoor' to go to the next room you'd type:  mapper cexit enter trapdoor
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: mapper will take care of the rest.  I love the mapper, it's so powerful.  Always back up your map database (it's automatic and backups for to the backup directory) but make sure you copy it to your new install location if you upgrade mush to another directory.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's automatic if automatic backups are enabled
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper help search backups
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: went afk for a sec (at work), i don't get the "lobi only for cexits"?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm still in doubt whether mapper can open doors
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mapper doesn't know what a door is. it knows that if you tell it to do "open door;east" then it will do that.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you tell it to "dance;sing a song" it will do that
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is no special metadata in the map database indicating which exits are doors and which are not, because that's just not needed
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's a 'mapper help' file you should really read into, and thoroughly.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The answer to your question is yes, mapper can open doors. Mapper can do anything you tell it to do, if you use cexits (short for custom exits).
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For instance, you go to the room with the door in it. You then type 'mapper cexit open north;;north'
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: and what Arcidayne said, read mapper help 
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You need to make sure you double the semi-colons, otherwise it won't work.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: and mapper help all - It's amazing how much more efficient it can make your mudding/questing and campaigns
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Of course, the open north;;north is only if you're trying to go north. You'll want to use it for whatever direction you're trying to go.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Additionally, as Fiendish said, you can make it do other things. There's a trapdoor you need to enter in order to continue on? Go to that room, and as Pures said, do 'mapper cexit enter trapdoor'
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'll try it out next time
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: smooth :)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: and once you get your mapper database nice and filled in from lots of exploring, you can use mapper find <roomname>, mapper goto <roomnumber>, use where to get the roomname and then use those 2 commands
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i think the mapper is prioritizing "recall" (which spends moves) over "portal to academy;down". is there a way to tell him the other way?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Remove the 'recall'.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mapper takes the shortest path possible. 'recall' is just one step, while portal to acdamey;down is two.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I'm not sure, there is a mapper help portals
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: but I never use it, so I can't really help there.  
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I just have a alias  set up for my amulet that gets the amulet, and dual wields after I'm done
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: looks like you want this info:  mapper portals                 --> List known hand-held portals
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool. i just didn't want to mess the "bounce" stuff for when a room is noportal but not norecall
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's why i left "recall" in the portals list (flagged as such)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: yeah, I'm actually setting up my amulet now as a portal from everywhere
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: oh, mapper unmapped here - great command for doing goals, if you're having trouble finding where to go, I usually do:  explored  - to see if I'm missing any rooms, then a:  mapper unmapped here  - this tells which directions from which rooms you haven't traveled yet.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: um, how to increase buffer for mushxcp
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: ah nice, to the the amulet portal mapped correct in the mapper, my speedwalks are using that to cut down on some txcp
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: cut down on some distance
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is there a way for me to plugin a plugin lol? :p
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's probably not possible, but since it doesn't hurt to ask.. i want to tweak the mapper, but i don't want want that "tweak" to go away when the plugin gets updated
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: depends on the scale of the tweak, I guess
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can utilize CallPlugin for some things.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd guess it's possible to do with git right though I've never tried it, or can it not merge as well as SVN...
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can always redefine a function, so if you put your code in another file and then at the end of the plugin load your new function over the old one, it'll work as long as the function call interface doesn't change
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: genius!
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll have to re-add that one line at the end of the plugin after any updates, but it's a trivial change instead of a code merge
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's a pretty good way of doing it without having to go learn svn/git stuff
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem kiss fiendish
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: time to go have lunch
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: laters!
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: where are mushclient variables stored?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Depends....in a plugin they are stored in statefiles.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. world files itself it seems
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: in a variable you created using the wizard, in the word file yeah.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: WORLD
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or sometimes I'll store a variable in a database!
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But that probably makes someone angry for some reason of bad form...
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: isn't that even slower?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean, i always use local lua variables when i can, but whenever i'd need global, long-term variables i just use mushclient variables.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Slower, probably not noticably if you are on a SSD, but sure does make it easier to upgrade...moving state files is a pain...
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: since i'm always scripting something (and debugging) it's nice to easily check on the values of them all
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i play using two computers (work and home). is there a quick way to "transport" my map (mapper) so progress in one of them isn't lost?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Just put it on onedrive
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Then you can use it from anywhere
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is it just one file?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I think its all stored in the aardwolf.db isn't it?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes Aardwolf.db - WARNING: do not move or play with while mushclient is open.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool. so as long as i only touch it with mushclient closed, i can freely transport it?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Yes, but keep in mind, each will progress/change independently. If you do most of the mapping on one PC or the other, I'd use that as your main db
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure it's possible to play off onedrive type thing too - I know some too, but I'm always scared about corruption.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I know some DO (not too)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Oh, I didn't even think about that. Disregard what I said
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Just put your whole mushfolder in onedrive..
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Then play from anywhere
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: No need to do anything else
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I have my aardwolf.db backed up to my google drive quite frequently...in fact, gonna go do that manually right now, can't be too safe.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: You can put the whole folder in there, and play from it
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I've done it for ages now
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Then can play on my other comp, everything saved
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: you can right click it on google drive and click manage versions and keep uploading new versions...so you'll have all your copies
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I don't ahve the google drive program in this PC...not sure why I don't, I should probably do that.  I have it on my laptop.  just never did it on my gaming PC ($1300 gaming PC, plays MUDs)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: these scripts are getting heavier and heavier these days
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: the text is soo crisp, running at 60fps. the text scrolls so smoothly
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: people insist in doing 3d acceleration in lua etc
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lua shaders
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nobody is making 3d accelerated anything for MUSHclient
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i was just kidding :p
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and btw. can't stop being amazed by your mapper
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd build one of my own if i had the time (just for the hell of it/learning) but can't do
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the way you've built cexits/portals, they're like recipe for the possibility of anything
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: every once in a while I think about actually removing sqlite from the mapper and just serializing the rooms table. It might even make pathfinding run faster. but then I think pathfinding is probably fast enough. And I'm a bit enamored with the clever SQL BFS loop
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: pardon my ignorance but then how would you store the map?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is BFS?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: breadth-first search
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like I said, I'd serialize a lua table of rooms and exits
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: serialize means turn the structure into a giant string
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ah
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Seralize is just a way Mush turns arrays into a string that can be read back in as an array...since you can't save Arrays directly....but you CAN save strings.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as it is, all of the drawing is done on a Lua table of room information. it doesn't pull from the database.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: pardon the ignorance but wouldn't searcing over a massive lua table going to be much slower than searching over a sql db?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well the fact that reading one giant string can be faster than reading a table makes me realize my programming days are long gone.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: depends on what you want to search for
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in memory will be faster, but it uses .. more memory
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well 10megs isn't a lot
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but agreeing to fiend, i don't think it's any slow though
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: i'd be more worried about memory leaks in mushclient tho
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: searching a massive table is only slower (maybe, not necessarily) if you actually have to look at everything to get the information you want
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and really only then because you're not letting the database engine do database engine magic
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but finding the information for a particular thing is super fast, much faster than looking for it in a database
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and if you have a room, and the room knows what rooms it's connected to, finding the set of connected rooms is just a single memory access instead of constructing a SQL query string that says "give me the rooms that are connected to this guy", sending the query string to the SQL optimization engine, running the query, constructing an iterator for the results, and then feeding back the results
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: changing subjects slightly, maintaining interest in something for years in order for the result to be this great is programmer magic, fiendish. i've had "great" aspirations a couple of times, never managed to maintain interest for long enough to actually accomplish great things
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it just happens that I hit on the magic one-shot formula for doing that search in the database by saying "give me the rooms that are connected to all of these guys", which lets a single line of code find all rooms that are N steps away from you
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: anyways. off to wife'n'kid-grabbing
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and I think it's at least pretty, even if it's not the fastest because it doesn't walk already-built connections
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm lucky because my wife knows how much it means to me to be able to program
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so she lets me do my own thing for days at a time
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: ok this is weird, each time I do a note list on the tech forum I'm disconnected from the game.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: set the pagesize smaller
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: ah, thanks! that was it.  Was it activating some flood control?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I had no pagesize set
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I have no idea if it was activating something. I'm no tech guy. I know how it should work not why it should work
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It disconnects if your connection can't handle all the data coming in so fast....it varies by the speed (maybe latency too?) of your connection...
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: thanks, I even think I understand
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: why the minmap shown on main has --- instead of straight lines like in the miniwin map?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because you're not using a UTF8 enabled font or because you don't have the UTF8 checkbox checked
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Game->Configure->Output
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Btw, back to coloured consider plugin, while good/evil auras are fixed, it broke the neutral or any auras mobs any idea how to fix it?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It shouldn't have broken it, hmm.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Could change the start to be (?:.*)? instead.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: so ^(?:.*)?Best ... and whatever else.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: But the replacement doesn't match with expecting wildcard?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm pretty clueless, but I'm just guessing
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No clue what you're asking there.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It'll match whether it has auras or not.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: With what you suggested now?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, or so I believe. You'll have to test it out, but that's correct regex syntax.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: doesn't seem to work or am I adding it wrong somehow
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: match="^(?:.*)?Best run away from * while you can!"
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, I don't know how you're adding it, so I can't tell you. The match should read match="^(?:.*)?Best run away * while you can!" -- or whatever it actually says.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, wait.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Totally forgot...
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Is regexp="y" present in that trigger?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'll need to change the * to .* as well.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it's y
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it should look like this then? match="^(?:.*)?Best run away from ^(?:.*)? while you can!"
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No. the * after from should be .*
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't have the "^", and doesn't need the (?: or the )?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ^ before the other () section was the "start of a line" anchor...in the middle of the line, it's actually looking for a ^
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: so just um.. like this? * Best run away from .* while you can!
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the other stuff was to group the wildcard and make it optional...although unless you're capturing the flags (only went back around 10 lines in -h), you don't need that at all
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not capturing the flags, it's inefficient and silly to anchor and then wildcard
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good point. I think I even mentioned not having an anchor before, though I forget.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: sorry what I tried didn't work, I'll revisit suggestions after double
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Truth be told, if you don't anchor it at all, it should work.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't anchor it, and don't worry about the optional crap in front of the trigger lines.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So match="Best run away from .* as fast as you can!" rather than match=".*?Best blah blah"
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so could either be regex and "Best run away from .*? while you can!$" or could be non-regex and "*Best run away from * while you can!"
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: that was initially needed for auras otherwise it didn't work for this particular and couple other messages
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not needed for auras if you don't have a "^" in regex
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's not needed at all, since your'e not worried about auras.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you were capturing auras, then you'd need it. But since you're not, you don't.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unless you want to capture the auras, too.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and you could technically still capture the auras by using a "left of match" token, although I wouldn't know MUSH's without looking it up)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is from my live consider script: /def -ag -F -mregexp -t'Best run away from (.*?) while you can!$$' con-best = /echo %%PL%%P1 is 10-15 levels above you %; \
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so I use %PL to show everything before "Best", and %P1 to show the (.*?)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm right, so before we added * Best, the coloring didn't work at all for good/evil or any auras in consider, I guess it worked for neutral/no auras, after I added * Best, it worked for everything with auras, but now I've seen it doesn't for mobs withiout any auras
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the problem is the space between * and Best
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the problem ....yeah
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use "* Best" with non-regex, the * can be null, but the space is literal
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: going to test
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: doesn't seem to work I removed space, Challenging A flying cow?! would be either very brave or very stupid. output
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I removed spaces for that message too
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: removing space, broke it for rest of it
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khannon runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm, might error in there from last edit
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yep, I left .* on to second, seems to work to all now, interesting didn't I suggest the change in forum without space and I managed to add space myself
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khannon buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm getting error on miniwin I believe after the change on coloured plugin, I'm guessing they are related somehow.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if someone up to I can send personal note with error line, it seems to be case for neutral mobs only
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: [string "Plugin: Aardwolf_Consider_Window"]:426: attempt to concatenate field 'keyword' (a nil value) -- [string "Plugin: Aardwolf_Consider_Window"]:426: in function <[string "Plugin: Aardwolf_Consider_Window"]:396>
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i create mapper bookmarks?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I was actually looking for something like that earlier, I ended up doing a mapper thisroom and then copying that output to the notepad ALT-4
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: 'mapper thisroom'
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: alias that baby to mtr
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I actually created an alias for that purpose. "mark here" would mark a room as a bookmark room and then allow me to run back to it at a later time.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: creates mgoto then right?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It would. I need to fix it, though.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fibo Tech: I make notes in plenty of rooms. qmobs and stuff.. then mapper look notes here, and you get that clickable list(mush)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Whee, there we go.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Works again, woohoo.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is there a way to "technically" make a plugin depending on another? i mean, so that it won't work (and will notify) unless another specific plugin is installed?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: many of my plugins do it
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: require "checkplugin"     then   function OnPluginListChanged ()  do_plugin_check_now "PLUGIN_ID", "PLUGIN_NAME") end
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: should be anohter ( in there after do_plugin_check_now obviously
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are also various other functions for checking if a plugin is loaded and checking if a plugin has a function that can be called
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Debugging a plugin is fun!
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what if areas were dynamic, and changed (rooms, mobs, progs) periodically?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You mean like a random area? Procedurally generated?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: note really
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it would be build just like the others, but some elements would change, maybe automatically, maybe manually by periodic maintenance by its builder
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: areas that would change with time, maybe dynamic events
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is there any miniwindow plugin that shows what mobs are in your room?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm not an imm and I can't speka for them, but I'd estimate the chances of an area going live that is still editable by the builder to be somewhere between "ha ha ha" and "not a chance in hell"
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what do you mean metria? why is that?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Read up on the building process.  Areas go through multiple stages of review and checking before they are taken and made live.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Is the long term scheduler stored in memory or storage?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: If I have something like 'echo wee' in a trigger, is there any way to hide it from showing the command in the window? I just the result to show
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: SendNoEcho - If you type SendNoEcho and hit SHIFT-TAB you should get an auto-complete box to popup if you're using the Mush's default editor - from the command line in the mud or the script editor(it's really the same thing)  That may be the command you're looking for
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: now whether Windows Help works for you is another question, Win 7+ doesn't support the old help file system, well on my win10, it's been a pain the bum to get a replacement to open old .chm / .hlp files
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: SumatraPDF will read CHM files
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: upgrade to xp.  or keep a virtual machine with xp in it for just such an occasion.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: that is one of the solutions I saw, and yah, I have a 3rd party program to read them. 
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: pretty ridiculous
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Windows 10 has no support for old Windows Help files. Windows 7 didn't support it, but it did have a program to fix it. Same with Windows 8.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: moral of the story: upgrading is for suckers.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not really.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: lol, I'll take Win10 over not having native legacy help file support
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: tho I do love me some XP
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: I usually don't like upgrades, but they seem to have gotten Windows 10 right.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I find it amusing people still think it's funny to say things like "upgrading is for suckers!" and "Throw out your PC and get a Mac!" or vice versa. Seriously, that is old, and just about as outdated as your "recommendations".
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: Win 8 wasn't that good imo, but once I got 8.1 I didn't mind it at all.  just ran the desktop, never used that metro stuff
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: says the poor sucker who thinks new is better...  and stay off my lawn!
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not once did I say "new is better" :D
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: honestly, I like Win 10 a lot, and I have Mint Linux on another desktop and a copy of Lubuntu for my wife's crappy laptop.  Runs so nice on older hardware.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Yeah I don't see how it's hard to understand that sometimes things get worse.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Pures.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: if you were advising a begineer to program something to receive a post would you suggest PHP or Perl?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Define 'a post'
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: cobol plus php.  interfacing with old iron is still a thing.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: a message about payments sent from Paypal.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Windows marks that upgrade Windows usually require to upgrade their equipment (since the old equipment is "inadequate") - The old equipment becomes a groaning clunker or a Linux box
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: plus c-sharp, plus perl, plus x86 assembler (for the zen of it).
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What is the source of the message? Is it coming from email? From a web service? Being typed in by hand? You're not defining the problem well enough to really give advice on it
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: from a web service.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: (throws hands in the air) PHP. Good luck.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: it has some sample code that I'm going to have to change.  I didn't know if there was one that was better for beginners.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: avoid perl.  its awesomely useful, but gaining skill with it will make it  harder to communicate with earthlings.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: perl just looks like keyboard vomit
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Perl is a fine example of a write once read never language
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: couldn't have said it better myself... i mean... unless you want your eyes to fall out :D
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: commenting.  good perl code is 98.3percent comments.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Now, ask us if you should write it in brainf*ck, and I'll just straight up kill you for even suggesting it.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: malbolge.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: >><>>>>><<<>>>>>><><>>>><>>>>>
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: Xyliz, I would have to almost agree with you.  I'm still "testing" Win10 on my wife's old crappy laptop.  It's one of the 1st Core Duo dual core Intel, 2gb of ram, and it seems to run ok, but something is up with the hard drive, it may be failing but the SMART codes are all good.  Who knows, might also just need a good cleaning, cuz it's running hot.  It runs fine most of the time but other times the harddrive just starts reading/writing sooo slow.  Linux on the USB stick is smooth as butter tho (not relying on the HDD at all, persistent USB).  Good enough for streaming Steam games to it...and playing Mush, and then she can use it for work-stuff. (which was just remote desktop anyway).
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: but before I upgraded to Win10, it had win7 and it was slow as poop then too, so can't blame win10 yet. but I have no other reference really
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: all the other computers I've used with Win10, including this gaming PC I build 2 years ago are more than capable and with an SSD and 24 gb of RAM win10 is fast a lightning, boots in literally 15 seconds, I'm ready to go, maybe faster...
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Dear god, never, ever, indulge yourself in conversation with Xyliz...
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: got faster when I went from Win 7 to Win 10.  
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I'm interested in other people's experiences for people that have upgraded older tech to Win10, thinking about doing it to my parents laptop, because every single time I visit them, they hand it to me to fix, and this last time I didn't have enough time to do it...it was so gummed up with malware and junk.  I was thinking just blasting everything off and starting fresh with Win10, but it's a laptop from 2010 I wanna say, maybe 2009.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: jeez and forgive my typing, can't talk/type apparently. ok going to chill w/ the wife and kid for a bit, bbl, logged in from the "crappy" laptop lol.  Or maybe  my kindle with bluetooth keyboard.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: suse.  theyll never know the diff.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: mannec: they probably won't...it's a crappy experience now.  can't even get the USB ports to work, won't recognice the xbox one controller my mom has, trying to get her steam games to work, so she can play some of the platformers she likes on the big screen TV.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: When Windows 10 first came out there were a few programs we needed at work that wouldn't run on it, but most of those were solved in a few months.  My laptop might be from 2011?  It works fine with Windows 10
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: so what's the worst that can happen?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: malkar thanks for the info, I'm going down in a few weeks, probably what i'm gonna do.  I've cleaned it like 3 times in the last year and I think it's a stubborn infection or they have some backdoor that malwarebytes, hitman, and the 3 other programs I ran missed...or my dad keeps looking at shady porn
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: on that gross note, I'm out, peace y'all. be back in a short while hopefull, thanks for the info.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: quality porn, thats the ticket.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: set up a stateless virtual machine for web-browsing.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: FireFox Mozzilla suggested upgrade from v141 to v143 (even though v145 was out there). As soon as the 25mb v143 upgrade was in, a popup to upgrade to v145 at 49mb - So 26mv + 49mb to upgrade from v141 to v145.   And then FireFox Mozzilla was happy -- Software seemes so bloated these days. And how big in MB is FireFox Mazzilla Godzilla these days.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: yeah, TAILS and TOR on a USB inside a VM...but seriously, been looking at porn on the PC for 20 years, never had a virus...they say the porn sites are actually some of the safest sites.  It's those game sites I bet my bro goes to get his aimbots or WoW hax.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i still have a floppy disk with an entire internet suite on it.  including modem drivers and 3 diff browsers...
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: gamer porn.  same diff.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: Xyliz, the browsers do seem to go in cycles, it was all about firefox, then chrome, then chrome got bloated, back to firefox, then MS edge is quick, but no plugins and it's hard to convince people to trust a MS browser.  Lynx ftw!  Still fast after 30 years.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: lynx rules.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmm, thats the ticket - with an hd-imager you can turn the base computer into a stateless vm :)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i get a list of current room's cexits?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: How can I prevent my inputs from being repeated in the main window? Like if I type 'clan hi', it says 'clan hi, you tell CLAN: 'hi
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so local echo of all commands?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: world properties - input - commands, uncheck Echo My Input
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: oh yay ty :P
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Should omit from output do the same thing in a trigger? Or is that something else
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: Anyone know what program is needed to open a, .docx  ?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah, omit prevents it from showing the line it matches
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I have a trigger that does a few things, but the echo from it all kind of ruins it, any way to selectively do that?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ms word or openoffice or libreoffice
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you sending input?  if so use SendNoEcho("command")
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh perfect, that's what I needed :)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: Rake, I told you that like 2 hours ago :P Must've missed my message.  If you use SendNoEcho - It's what started the whole conversation about the Windows Help program
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh yeah sorry, as soon as I asked my wife starting asking me to do stuff so I had to leave >.<
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I completely understand.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: you can use ALT-SPACE or SHIFT-ALT to do an autocomplete in the editors, the default command line and script editor, so type 'Send' and hit SHIFT-TAB and you'll see a lot of options
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh nice, didn't know that
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: oh sorry. CTRL-SPACE works inthe fullscreen script editor, and SHIFT-TAB works in both
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: yeah, been reading about scripting a lot lately.  Fixing up WinkleWinkle's Search and Destroy script.  Fixed a couple of things already.  
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh this triggr I made is sooo helpful, should of done this ages ago
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: nice, what's it do?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Basically just cons all after I get a kill, I forget what mobs were in the room as soon as combat starts, so I had to keep manually doing con all or look
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Now it pops up with fancy stuff
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: nice, it's in a .xml plugin now? should share it, I'm sure people would find it useful...of course then you'll get bugged for support, unless you put a disclaimer in to leave you alone
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Not in a plugin, just a mush trigger
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Literally just looks for the kill on main, and displays all, but I just added other stuff to fancify it
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: nice.  Good practice then.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are autocon plugins that do that
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah, couldn't find one
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: Dolo, Tells, was that it?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: yeah, tells
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's one which was mentioned on the channel about a week ago: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9681&page=5
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: who asked about mapper bookmarks earlier, they still around?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: whats the syntax to lock an exit in Mush?  i cant remeber for the life of me
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mapper lockexit I believe
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the "from" room is the easiest way
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mapper help all will show you all mapper commands btw.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I never use the mouse, always the shortcuts, forget I can click the mapper.  man, I love that mapper.
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Did someone say they had an auto con plugin?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is there a command to make a miniwin from a plugin show?
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the lua code is:  WindowShow(win, true)
T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but it has to be coded into the plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I found an auto con all miniwin plugin from nick gammon, it loads fine, but nothing shows up 
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: correction, you can call it from script - but you need the window ID
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what does this do:  nhm
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if its the one Abe referred to earlier
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Hmm, well this one looks messed up, do you guys know of any other?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Plugin that shows mobs in your room that is
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: what's the url that you got that plug in from?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9681&page=5
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It's from like 2009, so something probably changed to mess it up
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what is wrong with it?  it was just updated a few days ago
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh yeah?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: The plugin is "working", just not working
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It loads fine, you can display help etc
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: But no mini window with mobs appears
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuku Tech: hello guys, are the buttons on the Android client broken? I can't seem to click then
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RockItLike Anaristos Tech: Tuku is a new player. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I think your best bet is either googling the tech history, or looking at tech history here
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I remember someone asking a similar question like a week ago and got help, so might be easy to find/fix
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: does this open a window:  conw
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Nope, I think I see a window though, it says "consider all (help)"
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuku Tech: OK I will try to find it thanks 
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: But it's empty no matter what I do
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RockItLike Anaristos Tech: Tuku it appears that google has a lot of help, try google "aardwolf android client"
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Reading the older pages to see if I missed anything
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it works.  except that the window was hidden behind my ascii map
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: On that thread, Hellion asked my exact problem, let me see if he got help anywhere
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i loaded it too, it does consider but same window output as you
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah, I see the window, just no mobs in it, hmm
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: When you guys type conw, does anything appear in main window?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: this is what mine looks like:  http://uploadpie.com/BkwnE              
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah dang, that's exactly what I wanted lol
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RockItLike Anaristos Tech: you can resize those windows
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: You got it from the forum I linked?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: get the source, look at the erros and see if you can fix it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: but i did not type any commands, just had to find the window behind other windows.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes rake.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Hm, what'd you save the file as?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: conWindow.xml
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: then loaded it as a plugin.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its just not 100%, its working for me at diner, but not in aylor - it's something to do with trigger for mob ranges
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh let me try another zone, didn't think of that
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: when i added the plugin:  Consider_Window.xml installed  and next line showed:  Added plugin C:\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\conWindow.xml
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Hm, how come it says COnsider_Window.xml and conWindow.xml? Is that just what it's named in the plugin?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: Consider_Window.xml is probably how the author named it.  .. and i just saved as the other name.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah gotcha, let me try something else, sec
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: relogging brb
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: does it show weak mobs in aylor, Negader?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh wait you only lvl 20 so maybe not applicable
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: when i runto hotel, it shows mobs that are (-10 to -19)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it doesnt show me the "stop into the ground" mobs
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but that'd have to be level 1 mob for you to see that
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Weird, now it's not even letting me add it O.o
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its probably already installed - Aardwolf_Consider_Window
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah no, it's giving an error I mean sorry
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: [string "Plugin"]:350: invalid escape sequence near '"[%w'
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: anyhoo, i copied and pasted the plugin at pastebin that i copied from the link you gave earlier.:  http://pastebin.com/PQXwrrmc     I have to go.  good luck. 
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah, I was literally just going to ask if you could do that lol
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Negader waves "Goodnight" to everyone.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Seeya!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah it's working now
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Whoops, yeah forgot I went to diner at 48 lol
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Not sure if you're still trying, but I just copied the raw data from that and pasted it into the plugin and it worked
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now re-write it to use ROOMCHARS tag instead of that nasty echo :P
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that will remove unnecessary cons for empty rooms too
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Not sure what that is, but I'll take it if you're offering xD
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: plugins is problems lol
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah yeah, I see what you mean
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Double spams every room
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Bastra Tech: anyone awake and can tell me about mac and bootcamp and windows?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not a real question
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: where is colour mapping stored?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: in mushclient
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Has anyone written anything to keep track of command stacks?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: like a command queue management thing?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i get a list of whos listening to a specific channel? like "who tech"?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't really work well...command queue is server-side...
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lobi: no
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: wrote one long ago, decided it edged too close to illegal
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You could, ask I'm listening!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a few ways to try to implement it (echocommands, prompts, MUD output, periodic injected echoes), none of them will work consistently, so you'd need to have a fuzzy factor in the script...
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and of course taking the command queue totally client-side adds latency
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was a pretty lengthy discussion on the topic on tech from somewhere around a year ago (maybe when arnica was working on his, without searching the logs for it, I dunno who all was involved in the thread)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: You seem oftly against the idea, why is that?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it's not a good idea :P
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It would save on those oh crap moments when you spam a kill command but your health is getting low
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd add more oh crap moments by doubling your response time to everything...
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it'll glitch
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I don't follow how it would jump to double the response time
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: As I recall, I had a timer that checked a table, and sent the first table entry as a command, then deleted it.  And then aliases to add commands to the front or back of the table, or to flush the whole table.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: on a completely new topic, I wish SQLite could bind lists to prepared statements.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right now, you send "a", "b", "c" without waiting, and the MUD processes "a", "b" and "c" according to its designed lag...with such a setup, "b" isn't sent until either a guesstimated delay, or until the MUD has processed "a" and sent a response back to you
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I just spent a day and a half trying to figure out a way around that limitation for a prepared query with two separate lists of values that are each either tens, hundreds, or thousands of items long in a way that doesn't involve blowing up RAM like hiroshima
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I never said anything about not sending b.. I am simply talking about something that tracks what you mashed into the keyboard then knocking it off a list as things get used up
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: turns out I've been defeated
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sonet: that wouldn't help your example in the least
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Let me paint a picture: You are in combat you spam c magic missle 5 times, then c heal once
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd TELL you that you just had an "oh crap" moment...it wouldn't help mitigate that oh crap moment
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: simple fifo
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica sets up a monument near the smoking remains of Frindish' computer
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: only problem is, that tracking and queue is hard . lol
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I don't want to mitigate it I just want to know how much time I have left until I can put commands in again
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have 15 seconds
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there, done ;-)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: easier solution.. just dont stack ;)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why would you want that instead of the obvious better thing to want, which is the ability to immediately clear the queue and send the commmand you want? that's a feature you have already.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Tallimos: ever miss a few rounds in combat with your skills because it all looks the same?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Fiendish: I don't want to bot, thats why
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I will take my question as answered.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you just want to send commands 5 at a time?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people just use something like "ac" every now & then, which gives them a visual for where they are in their stack
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seriously, if you want a pretty extensive "pro and con", I invite you to look up the logs on my site...it was talked to death at that point
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: i just use look
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should send "cast;cast;cast;cast;echo beepboop" and then trigger a beep on seeing beepboop
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or, you know, trigger "cast;cast;cast;cast;echo beepboop" ^_^
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's pretty easy to interleave all your commands with echos. that way you know exactly when every command has been run so you can see how many commands are left stacked on the server
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: But I want to stop bot...err clear queue after first cast, which is not possible to echo beep after each commands which adds lag.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or echocommands...but it has its own caveats
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ghaan nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: echocommands doesn't work fully against aliases if you care about verifying the command and not just the fact that a command was run
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but if you don't care, then that'll probably work too
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: Bleh, the second part doesn't make sense, nm, back to work =)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (that's one of those caveats...another being that custom exits don't echo)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do they really?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: holy cow you're right
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's so strange
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that seems like an oversight
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: uhm, how do I post plugin to gammon forums without breaching 6000 character limit?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: use dropbox or google drive.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: then post link
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm just curious, should this be ["(.+) would be either very brave or very stupid%."] =  ["Challenging (.+) would be either very brave or very stupid%."] = -- This is the message in consider miniwin that is failing for neutrals
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: try it Khannon, but I think I found a couple of thoose errors
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: "(.+) would be either very brave or very stupid" without quotes will work just fine no need for ^or $ either
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's regex
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's assuming the phrase following (.+) is correct. I haven't checked
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: dont think that was the trigger he showed but the line that sends it to the consider window
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah that should be line it sends to minwin
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh sorry then, haven't used miniwindows yet
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: no worries, you tried to help :)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: ha!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: That was it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: nice
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: another fix to suggest for plugin :P
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: think that thread is closed though isnt it? :P
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: remember trying to post my fixes for it just to notice it was closed
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Fiendish re-opened it few days ago
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: oh
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: yeah this was a few weeks ago
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I've been annoying tech gods in aard couple days with this :p
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: heh and then you solved it yourself
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm I'm not sure was that it though, I removed the line it doesn't seem to pop up error anymore without adding it, could been something to do with mob name instead? 
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: do you get the consider in the main window?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah it doesn't break on that particular consier message either way mm
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: how does the trigger look for that line?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: ok I reproduced the error, I went oz, without {angry} aura the consider failed
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: and I got same error as yesterday
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: the (R) ?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: angry is not r.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: nope {angry} mob
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (Angry) :p
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: worked with it, broke when I canceled sense anger
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: oh, I dont think I ever use sense anger
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't get it, it's actually this particular mob
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: You would stomp A flying cow?! into the ground. (-19 and below) // Yesterday it was just other consider message
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: and consider miniwin breaks with error
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it doesn't break on white dove
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: oh yeah damn
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: there is a fix for that
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: someone posted that, that shit broke my consider window too, its the ?! that breaks it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: maybe question mark does something
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah has to be that makes no sense otherwise
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: but Im pretty damn sure I found the fix on the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: whats your trigger for mobs 19 and below? if the ?! is throwing it off your regex probably needs adjusting.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if it was on same thread I would have imagined Nick added fix to edit, his edit was last reply on that thread
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: dont think it was in that thread, hold on Ill go look a bit
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: try stripping the mob string off any ?!'s before passing it on
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is the trigger not firing, or is it your script can't parse it?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: or the whole string
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maybe your script is passing on the name of the mob as a variable, and special chars break that part
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: which would have nothing to do with regex
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah just make your trigger strip the wildcard off ?, ! etc before working with it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: half the triggers are regexp, half are not, this particular consider is not regexp I have no idea if this has any relation to this
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: your regex shouldn't even bother with punctuation, you should just catch the mob name and the consider text and then gag the line and re-echo the match for the mob name and then the level range
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: why don't you make it regex?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: actually scratch this one is also regexp
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: everything i do is regex
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it looks like the ? and ! are getting "evaluated" somehow. you can either hunt the evaluation or strip the wildcard. should work
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: nod, if the punctuation is getting eval'd then your passing the whole mactched string which probably inst necessary 
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm not sure how to fix this particular mob name clearly issue is "?!" at the end of mobname it doesn't occur on any other mob
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: so what's your trigger regex?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9681&page=1
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: is this whats happens? read reply 8
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: match="^You would stomp (.*?) into the ground\.$"
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: wildcard = string.gfub(wildcard, "?!", "") should do it if the cow is the only mob
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: gsub* by the way
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: can also try 'talking tree?!' in fantasy to make sure it reproduces there
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: ah yea I'll try it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: the tree
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can two step ? and ! separately to catch any potential fancy mob names
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: (.*?) seems like an odd wildcard.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: but I think thats another consider plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i don't get the ? though
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the * is pretty much for catching everything and also newlines etc. i always use + for single line triggers instead
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: khannon try using (.+) instead of (.*?) see what happens
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: just use (.+) and remove the ^ and $
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: and use http://regexr.com/
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: there is nothing wrong with the trigger
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: if there was something wrong with the trigger it wouldnt catch anything and it wouldnt break
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: (.*?) will not match correctly.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: yes it will, its the script after that breaks it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: That says match any character except line breaks, 0 or more times, and use as few matches as possible.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I can't get walking tree inot miniwin, doesn't pop error, but none of this low mobs show up there, umm I guess I could test trigger with different consider message
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: paste your trigger somewhere so we can take a look
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the whole thing
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: trigger + script
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: entire code in on forum
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: link?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: are you in the room with the tree?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9681&page=999
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah I was in room with him, none of the mobs in room show up miniwin, also no error pops
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: which room?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Dark Forest - Fantasy
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: entire room of mobs including A talking tree?! doesn't show up on miniwin, I guess they are too low level, though the error shoudl still come up?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: reload the script and try anoterh consider
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: A flying cow?! insantly breaks it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: however there's no other mobs in room
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: umm, let's kill everything else!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: its because you're passing the ?! to the adapt_consider function
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: you need to parse out the punctuation or rebuild your regex to not include it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: khannon
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: replace: mob = string.match (line, k)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: with mob = string.match (string.gsub(line, "?!", ""), k)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: see what happens, just out of curiosity
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: ahh I know why tree doesn't pop error, it has {G}
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: let's try without true seeing
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: you should just do what lobi said =/ that will strip the ?! from the match
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yep, it broke it same as flying cow without {G}
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's in function adapt_consider btw
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the ?! are definitely beign evaluated somehow
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's easy to pass by unnoticed as mob names almost never have those fancy characters
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i bet if you replace ? with \? and ! with \! it would not only work but show as ?! (without \s) in the miniwindow
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: mob = string.match (string.gsub(line, "?!", "\?\!"), k)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: mob = string.match (string.gsub(line, "?!", "\\?\\!"), k)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah this fixed it btw, sorry I was caught up something
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: thanks a lot for all help who were involved!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so just to confirm, the gsub fixed the problem?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah I just replaced the line in original with what you suggested
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: didn't break and showed up on miniwin
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: did you use the "\\?\\!" or ""?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: mob = string.match (string.gsub(line, "?!", ""), k)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: did the ?! show up on miniwn?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: nope, but it might be to do with maximum lines displayed on miniwin
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: nah. if you use "\\?\\!" instead of "" as the last argument of gsub it should show up
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I can try it after double to see if it shows up too
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: to me that's very irrelevant :P
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if you try \\?\\! and it does show up as i'm confident it will, it will be the proff that the ?! is indeed being evaluated.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: proof*
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm if I changed mob = string.match (string.gsub(line, "?!", ""), k) to mob = string.match (string.gsub(line, "?!", "\\?\\!"), k) it broke it, did I add it wrong?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: yeah only one \ before
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: \?\!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh yeah. silly me
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: tech i told him one \ first then said \\. my bad
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hrm that causes load error
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: then Id say skip it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh yeah. leave it at "".
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: making the ?! show up on miniwindow without errors is definitely possible, but would require further investiagtion
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: just for info string "Plugin: Aardwolf_Consider_Window"]:348: invalid escape sequence near '"'
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not worth it unless you find it important
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what's in line 348?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: hmm for the window it might be % used as escape symbol?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: so %?%!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ah. well i have no idea how minindows work. never used them. if that's the case then that might be the reason after all
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: this is the line for the window ["(.+) would dance on your grave%!"]
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: see the %! instead of \!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh yeah. then go "%?%!"
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: should send it to the window
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: nope %?%! causes original error or at lest same error
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: fun
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: tried doubling %s?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ah
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: got it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: %\?%!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: was worth a shot
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: %\?\%!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: shit
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: %\?%\!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: all different combos of \%?\%?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: no no. this is the one: %\?%\!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: haha, ?%\!%\ ?\%!\%
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Adhesive Cirion looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: nope break it again
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: [string "Plugin: Aardwolf_Consider_Window"]:348: invalid escape sequence near '"%'
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is % a regexp thing?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: because if it is then it needs escaping too
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: try \%?\%?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that would make it \%\?\%\!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: some weird shit
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah you should try cirion's suggestion too (\%?\%!) but that's only if % is NOT regex. i can't remember
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hmm. no. i don't think cirion's would work be % regex or not.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem scratch
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem reaches down and scratches himself...  Now he looks VERY happy. 
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: oh well need to leave work for home, gl Lobi and Khannon
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: these flying cows and talking trees are not worth all this hassle! :P
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adhesive Cirion Tech: tis fun
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: nope \%\?\%\! is also nogood
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well. i'd need to see how miniwindows escaping works and track every function in the chain
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i wouldn't do it for a flying cow or a talking tree lol
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd say leave it at "" and without ?!'s or go codehunting
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh. I'm using a consider window, working perfectly for me. *shifty*
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: are the talking tree an flying cows showing up just as fine for you?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: in the wndows i mean?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 1. A flying donkey???!!! (-19 and below)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: All nice and color coded.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean that a bit annoying conw ?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't know what's annoying about it, but yes. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: constant considering when you're moving, it should just collect all mobs once into some kind of db then just display results
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, it triggers off exits. You can turn it off, you know, and manually consider.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: mine shows up as 1. You would stomp A flying cow {-19 and below)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, you also have several problems with yours. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: and it broke hah, because A flying donkey???!!!
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I kind of expected it given the fix was aimed on '!?' not '???!!!'
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon: http://pastebin.com/XMNGtZJv
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Use that one.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i don't like miniwindows
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd replace output instead
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Easy enough, too.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: like: A flying donkey???!!! is at least x levels below/above you.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yep, that's simple enough.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: waaaay simpler, easier and more straightforward. and less demaning on visible space
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd even strip the fanciness
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: minwin keeps it in minwin easier to stack commands for me anyway
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Khannon.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you don't like receiving score/eq/inv etc in main outoput?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Try the one I gave you, and let me know if there are any issues. I had to fix some issues myself (it's Blainer's, needed updating).
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But it's working well for me right now.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'll give it a shot
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm tired of flying things that break stuff
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Warning: Plugin Aardwolf_Consider_Window is currently disabled. - How do I enable it?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: nvm.,..
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, the miniwindow may initially be hidden behind other windows, so you may need to search around for it first.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I disabled old, instead removing.. didn't think of needing to renable new one :P
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You should actually have had to remove it, and then add the new one.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yep this works just fine with all the flying cows and other weird animals
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bonus: Clicking on the mob names will execute kill.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: also the message of consider removed which is what I wanted at some point, point of them being colored...
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better accelerate kill command with f1/f2 keys
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon, I'm confused by your last statement. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it just shows up mobname/colored, and level difference, not full consider msg in window which is what I was looking into doing it I see all the lines are reworked there already :p
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You want full consider message in the miniwindow?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: nope the opposite what it is now on yours
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: old one had mixture of full consider/not full
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah, so the way it is with what I gave you. Good.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can thank Blainer for 99% of the code. I just did some tweaking and updated it to current standards.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it's great it works thanks him and you :D
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: conw ? will bring up help file.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Small cosmetic thing I found right now though, not sure if it's intended, (H)(R) No Problem! An archer is weak compared to you. (-6 to -9) - 1. An Archer (-6 to -9) -- doesn't add any aura, though with other mobs in room, the different consider message does add {G}  as example to miniwin too
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm. I'll look into it, but as it's not completely game-breaking, it'll have to be a bit later. I need to eat lunch, then shower, then head to work.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: (R) A dwarven mercenary looks a little worried about the idea. (-2 to -6) - 1. {R} A dwarven mercenary (-2 to -6) this consider shows up aura
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yep, it's just cosmetics
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i delete the "special convenience alias and trigger" aliases that come with aardmush?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which ones?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: #alias {*} {*} and #trigger {*} {*}
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Those aliases were only added because many people are used to typing #alias {aliasname} {do this} as well as #trigger {trigger pattern} {do this}
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah. probably not so much anymore.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and they kinda proved to be more trouble than they're worth, because they're not easy to keep updated being in the world file and not a plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: zmud legacy?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I used it maybe once or twice, and decided I'm better off constructing them my own way.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think tintin uses the same format.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But mostly z/CMUD, yes.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd absolutely use a text client over a window-based one anyday (as long as i could choose the font/size etc and have colours)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but you don't. you use mushclient, right?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh yes. i can't choose font font/size on tintin can i?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: didn't really try though
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm sure you can
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i was the guy asking for fullscreen in the forums the other day
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: which gave space to nick's rant
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm sure you'll remember
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: VBmeireles forum username
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I remember very little
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: i'm looking at it now though
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: fiendish.. i've known you for like 2 days. but i think i've noticed something about your personality.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it looks like there's a "code jesus" inside of you
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not sure if that makes sense
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I died for your sins?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: --o--
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: |
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: /\
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: aw
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but it looks like you're somehow taking the burden of things on yourself
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: It's not a burden when you enjoy something
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't load the imgur link right now though bceause I'm on a bus wifi that blocks it. Can you describe what it shows?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ( http://imgur.com/a/TVnM7 )
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: imagine a fullscreen which thinks my display is bigger than it actually is (so cuts the edges), then you offset it to the right a bit (lol) there you go
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try deleting the ini file
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: delete ini _then_ go fullscren?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well no
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: close mushclient first, then delete the ini file, then open mushclient
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: tell me the order
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll need to rearrange your toolbars after though
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: toolbars? aren't they supposed to go away?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well. lemme try it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll see
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: when should i set fullscreen? before or after all of thatw
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: after
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: closing mush through "X" (so i don't lose my questing keys) won't mess mapper db will it?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: afk
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: closing is closing
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: same result
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it thinks my screen is slightly bigger. don't think it's also offsetting though.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: back
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so no good. still thinks my screen is sligtly bigger by about half scrollbar size (width) each side (and top and bottom)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hm oh well
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: was worth a shot
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't imagine what would cause that though. It works fine for so many people
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is your screen some funny half television thing?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: nah. normal computer monitor
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: same thing happens at work and home (laptop)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: television has that issue all the time yeah.
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I know when I connected an old Mac Mini to a Panasonic plasma TV years ago, the computer never seemed to know how big the TV was because of overscan shenanigans
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what kind of laptop is it? what windows?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: windows 10 laptop, not sure how to answer the what laptop part?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: samsung laptop? mobile nvidia card
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well not sure if you call it moble
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the laptop version
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: win 7 at work
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: different laptops?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: out of curiosity what programming font/size you use? and for aard mudding?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: desktop at work, laptop at home
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for programming? 
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know what it actually is. it's just the default monospace font in Fedora called "Monospace Regular"
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: programming and playing
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for playing I use Courier New
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so you're on linux?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: red hat?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Fedora
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not RHEL
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: 15 years back when i learned there were other operational systems than windows, i installed red hat and gave it a try
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: there was a ninja among our group of friends, a real life and code ninja, he was about ~20yo (we were 15ish on average) used slackware
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: pretty sure there was no gui installation back then
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: also he could do a "star" without touching the ground, not sure on the english name
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it looks "Monospace Regular" is an alias for "DejaVu Sans Mono Book"
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so that's my programming font. size 12
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: we also had this "activity" in which we divided into two teams, apartment condominium, half half, two flags (somebody's pair of sandals). objective grab enemy's flag bring base
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: fun fact: weapons (fists) free
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: there was this tall, strong guy, who nobody dared face. he showed up, everybody ran. pretty much led enemy blob into our base to search for flag
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: code ninja (did kung fu) hides behind a car, waits for big guy
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: big guy passes by... code guy jumped onto his neck, hanging onto it in a strangling move we call "lion killer" in portuguese
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: big guy taps, code gu becomes legend
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: guy*
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: rp channel -->
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol. sorry. not rp. true story
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but yeah. sorry. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: got lost in childhood memories for a moment
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: am i the only lucida console user for programming? :p
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's so compact. i love it
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a font I guess
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: can I check EnableTriggerGroup to see if its true or false, I can only find a way to tell me how many trigger there is in the group
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: anyone have a line to WinkleWinkle, I see they haven't been on in over a year.  I made some changes to one of their scripts, sent a personal message - I guess that's all can do?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lio Tech: any hint or resource where i can learn to best deal with mazes with the mapper integrated in mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: checking a few back in -h...I know bardis and lio aren't online currently, but for completeness I'm gonna answer their questions anyway :-)
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bardis: You would use GetTriggerInfo() to test the enable state of a trigger
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pures: WinkleWinkle no longer supports or updates his scripts. Nokfah has taken up the mantle, look at his updated Winkle stuff and I'd suggest submitting your changes to him to keep a single current location
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lio: the mapper will add the rooms for mazes properly, but it will not "deal" with the mazes themselves...that is by design, as using a script to bypass mazes automatically (touchless) is against the botting rules
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use a script which tests and maps mazes room-by-room, but you must hit something on the keyboard to prompt it each attempt to be legal
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I think what's worse is, all the gift store stuff is probably made next door, and is still overpriced by 1000%
T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: immchan over there -> ;-)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: hi was told by Anaristos to try tech channel.  i am on cell phone, not thru blowtorch cuz i cant figure oyt how to use blowtorch to play. so my game app has the wolf howling as the pic. . ok all that aside i am trying to set up alias to eat pie then drink crawler.  plrase give me the exact phrase so it works by typing eds.  i will add the word alias myself  
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i told u the part about blowtorch cuz newbie channel mentioned it mite b why my alias command wont work . i type the word ALIAS then "eds eat pie
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: sorry cut off.  it does that whenever i try to show the exact formula i use
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: so without typing alias i will show you what i try.  eds eat pie
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: hi is anybody there
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: are yu guys mad at me or something?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes, we are mad
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: why 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ok, not really
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: did yu get my problem
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: He has his own problems methinks :P
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Celdyn grins evilly at GraySong Gregor.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Anyway, I guess just wait for a bit and see what the message looks like
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: there is a few iirc
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RockItLike Anaristos Tech: guys, try to give Tess help. She is a new player.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah the MUDside alias should work
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i want to eat pie then drink crawler in one swoop.  i try to come up with an alias but it dors not cover both.  it says it can in the helpfile as long as a semi colon is used to seperate the actions.  what is the exact phrase i type to set it up.  also, i am playing from a cell phone and not thru blowtorch.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: when you make the alias do two ; so that it doesn't split the line when entering it
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: try it again and use the semicolon twice
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RockItLike Anaristos Tech: Tess, Blowtorch-Aard is your client so you are connected to us through it.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: imo probably easier to just do it MUD side though, unless anyone is blowtorch expert
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: using double semi colons wont elwork
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: maybe blowtorch is parsing it, but it works for me
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i have tried 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: eh something is cuttiin my sentebces off.  why
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i am cursed
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: you could make one with the client.  In the menu there should be aliases and you just put in the string you want and the drink commands
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ok basically, blowtorch is processing those semi-colons, if you go to the options menu, under service options, disable the option to process semi-colons
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: then the command you tried before will work fine
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i am very vry new to online playing and the blowtorch set up confuses me.  i tried and tried but just got fustrated.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: alternatively just make the alias within blowtorch like Harperon mentioned
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: ubsay go to options menu.  where do i finr that?  i do not understand 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't know, don't have the app. If it's android device there is usually an options button in bottom left of your phone, but not always. You will have to search.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: maybe i am just too slow to play
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: of course not, this is part of the fun lol
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: stay calm
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: is there anybody that plays by android
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: there is an escape character also
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: ohh damn, I haven't used the aardwolf client since they stopped putting menu buttons on androids, but it is not optimized for that at all..
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: try your command again but put a tilde ~ before the semi-colon
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: before both
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: alias edf eat pie ~;~; drink crawler
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: try copy and paste
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: gl
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: hey guys that tide before each semicolon idea worked.  i can now eat pie and drink from my crawler with just one three-letter alias.  yay 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: hi
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i have an interesting quandry....again.  are you there?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: any one experienced with mushclient programming here?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: many people, do you have a specific question?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: does anyone know if its possible for a trigger (not in a plugin) to detect a Plugin Broadcast?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: no it isn't, but you can call the current state of a plugin at any time
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: yea that i know, but was trying to do something smarter than just spamming getpluginvariable..
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: You will have to write a plugin then
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ok hm thanks was trying to avoid that but ok
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: mushclient's plugin wizard is a good place to start for your first one
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: it should be possible if you do it indirectly - make a plugin that fires an alias - the alias does not have to be in a plugin
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: can the plugin fire an alias in the world file? ie Execute ("Test"), assuming the alias's name is test
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i havent done it myself but yes, i think so
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: cool i will try that, thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how does the mapper behave on mazes?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define "how"
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can it "detect" a maze? does it insist in trying to "fix" the exits?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: does it define an exit as a random exit?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: therefore stopping to try and set its destination
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: if you are in a maze and type mapperthisroom you will usually get a -1 for maze exits
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the answer, like most things, is that it depends
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it depends primarily on your settings and on the type of room
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i was just mapping gallows hills
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: some rooms don't report exit IDs but don't randomize the exit directions at repop. some rooms do randomize the exit directions.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: there was a moment where i had 49/50 rooms explored. "mapper unmapped here" was empty, told me there were no unmapped exits
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in all cases you can tell the mapper to ignore contradictory exit information coming from the game
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper unmapped can't know about rooms that are connected through hidden exits
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in the event that a room doesn't report exit IDs but also does not randomize exit directions, you can tell the mapper to ignore new exit information and then set the exits manually
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in the event that a room randomizes exit IDs, you can tell the mapper to ignore exit information and then draw a smiley face 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i delete all cexits in one area (with one command)?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i know i can delete all cexits from one room and from the whole database
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper help all
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: reason for the question is often i like "going over" an area again just to make sure it is all correctly set. i always set two cexits for each door (inward and outward) so there are always quite a number of cexits in each area
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper help search cexits
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: "mapper help search cexits" shows me two: delete (for room) and purge (says _all_ cexits, i assumed database-wide)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sec
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that seems to be correct
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please hold, system processing
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting solutions formed. reticulating splines.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i hope you're not bothered by compulsive obsessions. a lot of my questions/suggestions will be a result of such a phenomena
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: my next question (sending you back to the fact i like to re-go over my areas sometimes) will be if i can "purge" an area from the db so i can "remap" it throwing away any unwantedly set maze/hidden/random exits
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course you can purge an area
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper purgezone <area>
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: once i learn how exactly the map behaves, i'll certainly want to remap aardwolf entirely paying attention to each of such fancy rooms/exits in detail
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is room id give by server or created by mapper?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: given*
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: server
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: awesome. so it's the rooms "vnum"?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type "gmcpdebug 1" to see what the server is sending you behind the scenes
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sort of like vnums except vnums don't really exist anymore
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: holy shit this is THE MATRIX
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: sorry about the language
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but i'm feeling too neo to maintain pg 13 for a second
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gmcpdebug 0 to turn it back off
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: this is like mana from the sky
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: question
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if im at land of legend
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i set a cexit from the ticket vendor, which is as follows: "buy virginia;run <virginiaGuySpeedwalk>;give virginia ticketguy"
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: will that cexit's speedwalk use the cexits set to open the train's doors?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I did
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: you can use a wait to help with it
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: my worry is the doors
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have passdoor wish so I didn't bother
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ah
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh shoot i'm going to have to redo my whole db after i buy that
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: 99% of my cexits are doors
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: forth and back
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: passdoor will not help with some doors, so you will need your cexist for many of them
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well it might reduce the number of cexits by a big ammount
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: however i can't figure the utility of wait()
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can you shed some light?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: some cexits require a pause between moving
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: for example?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: rprogs?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: the say genie one, I forgot what area
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: show up in a room, sit around for a second, then the room transfers you over
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ahh sendhia :D
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and legend!
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not sendhia.. legend
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the guy with the shovel
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: sandcastle, go to room 37818, say genie... takes like 5 seconds for mobprog to transfor you
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: is it possible to have an alias call another alias in mushclient
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, send to Execute or send to Script and then use the Execute() script function
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: execute() behaves exactly as if you had typed the stuff in your command bar and hit enter
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: send() makes it so the stuff is sent to the mud, but not "evaluated"
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: fantastic, thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is the aardwolf.db only updated (looking at size change) upon closing of mush?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i see two .db-something files, but the db's size is still the same (haven't closed mush though) and i've been mapping
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://www.sqlite.org/wal.html
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so the db itself changes when i close mush?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: .db file
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: That's how most files are. The changes won't be committed until it's saved, in this case when your client closes.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: The same phenomenon would occur with a Word document, for example. It won't increase in size as you work on it, until you save.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the db flushes the write cache when you close. I decided at some point a long time ago that the benefits of WAL mode outweighed the dangers of having those two files around. At least until I maybe decide to put the whole DB in memory with periodic saves.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do i grab room name's brightgreen without needing to create a script file?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol sorry
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The colors are given in gmcp.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i want to know the colour name or #rgb of the bright green used by aardwolf for room names
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh, matrix on then
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hmm no
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're looking for that, you'll still need a script.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: matrix isn't telling me the colour, only the name
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: matrix = gmcpdebug 1
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the green doesn't get sent because that's the default color
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it only sends deviating colors 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i does get sent
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i can get it from the styles wildcard
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He's talking about it not being sent through gmcp
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ah
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in any case, mushclient sets rawgmcp mode so at most you'll get @ codes 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But going to a place that has a different color room name does show in gmcp.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and even without rawcolor, you'd still only get ansi codes
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so no way to get a not nil styles wildcard outside a trigger script function?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only way you can get the value of the green is with a plugin trigger that gives you styles
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or you could just look up what your ansi green setting is set to
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because the game is just sending you "make this green"
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, you can change the default color in room names. *shifty*
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i don't need a plugin though. defining a function with the four arguments and calling it from within the trigger will give me the styles table into the fourth argument's variable
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i just need to define the function in the script
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't need a styles table to know what the green is
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i wanted to not need a script file though, not this time i guess
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\print(GetBoldColour(3))
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that gives you green. that doesn't give you "color of rooms"
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh man
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you guys are awesome
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's all i wanted
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: someone else can have colorset roomnames set to something other than green though
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. would that be any important other than "area 'theme' cosmetics"?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose you have to define what important means
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: when the mud does have different colored room names, does it have any game implications? room type or anything?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Area theme cosmetics will override your default colorset status for roomnames.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: PK rooms are red
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but they also bring a [<* PK *>] next to them right?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Aside from PK rooms, that is.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: or something similar
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: who can say
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in my experience it's best to not change things just because
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: true true
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'll do it from the script file just in case
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so i can grab the room colour and replicate instead of just printing it in green
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, Fiendish, PK rooms are not red. Just the pk flag is. Otherwise, it's default.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is the pk flag sent in as part of the room name or as a separate thing?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's attached separately.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not part of the room name itself, but still going to show up in the MUD output.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: room.info { "num": 522, "name": "Midway Up a Tornado", "zone": "landofoz", "terrain": "mountain", "details": "pk", "exits": { "s": 521, "w": 524 }, "coord": { "id": 0, "x": 4, "y": 28, "cont": 0 } }
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: dat json
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: are you guys professional programmers rl?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm not.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm a professional layabout right now. I've been on vacation for nearly a year now.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne cackles gleefully at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: wish i could do that
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: We all barely know how to program ;)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Speak for yourself, Sonet!
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can do that because yes I'm a software engineer by profession and it pays well and I don't have kids
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I wouldn't dare speak for you Arcy
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: If you EVER have a question you can ask Arcy, he especially loves 50-60 tells stacked up
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Probably for  the best, I'm sure Archidayne can talk himself into trouble without your help. 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cadriel smirks at Arcidayne's saying.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i did computer science during the day and law school during the night for a year and a half (computer science was free for me), quit it in order to keep sanity and finish law school
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Lobisomem Another really good resource is Abelinc. You have to get past his gruff but that guy knows a bunch
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne writes a script to redirect the tells to Sonet, as well as his personal board.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A macabre Sonet throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm not a lawyer though
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could rediret to all persons from tech -h 1000, then get their answers and pass it back to questioner
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Be careful Arcy I might do that for you
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: If it makes your feel better Lob I am a 30 year old comp sci student
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Needed a career change.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It'll come in the form of my infobot, Melvin! You tell Sonet '[Melvin] relays the following: 'Xxxx tells you 'Dude, that Sonet guy sucks.''
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: If your lucky you will wind up with one of my terrible scripts that my son has had a hand with
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well my plan was pretty much the same since the beginning, computer science was more a hard stance against my mom's desire to make me a judge or something (they're not elected here, but chosen among law school graduates through federal exams)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I think I am in love with [Melvin]
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: melvin, get weather for 13760
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: [Melvin]: Endicott, NY: Mostly Cloudy Temp: 56.0 F (13.3 C) Humidity: 57%.  Wind: North at 1.7mph.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh! just reminded me of something.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That was my first project with him, really.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i have a hostgator plan. can i make it so mush downloads/uploads my DB/world file automatically on mush open/close so i don't need to be copying files/zipping/sending through e-mail all the time to switch home/work?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: Arcidayne what's Mevlin written in? are you sanitizing input?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gaden: Strictly Lua.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: melvin, get weather for 999999
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: just use dropbox, or something similar lobi. you could even move your mushclient files into dropbox and just leave them there if you wanna get weird.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And how are you defining sanitizing input? :P
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: mevlin, get weather for" or true--;dump tables? lol
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Could try it in a tell and see what happens. ;)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: i dont speak any lua =P
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm behind a firewall at work. my hostgator site isn't blocked though (domain name based blocks)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: uhhh, automatic push to your webhost will be a heavy project lobi
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: dropbox, google drive etc are all blocked
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a result, Gaden: [Melvin]: No cities directly match your search query. Only city/state, city/country, airport codes, and zip codes are eligible.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why not just carry it around on a USB drive? :P
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well i guess i can do that, it's just that, dunno, one day one of the files wasn't up to date.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i copied the wrong file.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i trust software more :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Put MUSH on the flash drive. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh man. that's fucking brilliant LOL
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: yeah, just run mush off the external media, like you would with dropbox
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Watch the language, please.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: we used to install quake to CDs to run in the library lol
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: sorry. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i can just move the folder (after mush is closed obviously) over to, say, a pen drive. there are no registry dependant config options or anything, right?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Alternatively, you can keep MUSH running on your home computer, and use Teamviewer to remote into your computer at home.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: teamviewer is also blocked
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not blocked.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: teamviewer is ew anyway
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but i can't install
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm not an "admin" of my workstation
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't install. You can run it natively.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: use the portable version
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: yeah they have a quicksupport version on their site
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gaden: I love teamviewer. Use it extensively. :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: yeah its alright, im just biased since it doesn't fit my needs
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. i might try that. but the usb-mush seems like the perfect option
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I'm on my phone's teamviewer app connecting to my desktop right now. :)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better use vnc , teamviewer creates a lot of connections so can be a bit disliked by net admin
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: what? are we really recommending vnc?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i envy my brother's job. slightly less pay, but he's TI admin. he brought his own computer (a beast) to his work and uses it. no firewalls, no boundaries, no nothing
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I use teamviewer all the time at school to connect to home station so I can play
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: teamviewer for games is too lagy for me. mudding could be ok, but for me it's going to be Usb-MUSH
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so can i just move my mush folder into pendrive and that's it? no fancy aardmush particularities broken?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yup
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: Just use telnet if you need to, that's what I do when I'm stuck places...good ol' telnet.  Stinks that a lot of newer Windows installs don't install it by default anymore.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: you can enable it through windows features
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: Lobisomem: yeah, there is no registry entries, it's completely portable.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: telnet does not give me access to the mush stuff that I wrote, I like the stuff I wrote
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well i can't stand telnet anymore
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: Gaden: yep, I'm just saying if you're on a locked down PC, with sec policies
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: yeah, it'd require local admin
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not after i discovered fiend's mapper
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: although unless your work is a bunch of lackwits i'd be surprised if you could run an executable from external media.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: yeah, I'm just saying if you have nothing else...of course having mush is the #1 choice...with all the pretty plugins
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and after learning lua and making my life easier with it
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm... haven't thought about that gaden
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: never tried running stuff from usb drive here
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: it's generally discouraged in places that actually care about netsec
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah and this is the IRS. netsec is high
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: oh. nah, you'll be alright.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol, mudding from the IRS
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Get on my taxes!
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i don't work with the top security stuff, just the day to day people attending
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: IRS doesn't whitelist, and because of legacy applications they'd have to enforce local secpol to prevent that sort of thing
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: you'll be fine running it from the usb.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but wait, i'm in brazil. i said IRS so you'd understand. it's "'receita federal' do brasil"
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: ah, i thought you were referring to US IRS
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: in that case ignore everything I said =P
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: nope. borrowed the name to shorten explanations
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I was thinking IRA anyway
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i've asked the admin, it's a domain blacklist so far
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i might be wrong but i don't think they block ports
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: That would be silly
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: there was a period where i could play aard (23) but not godwars2 (3000) though. both were fine at home
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: at this moment both are fine
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: at work
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i wish i knew more about IT and was more tech savvy :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: my brother's left me eating dirt long ago (since he got this job). i used to be his it questions' goto person when we were kids
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: I do small biz IT support for 180ish companies on the east coast... its got ups and downs.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: at least i can code and he can't (yet).
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I would rather do software than hardware support
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh yeah man
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: You'd rather support software or develop?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: develop
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: also a mixed bag. depends on where you're working mostly in my experience.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I like building my personal projects but I hate dealing with other people's hardware problems
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: that's a pretty standard dev attitude =P
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you had never opportunity to deal with their software problems :P
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I just like writing software
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: yeah, one of my least favorite things is dealing with devs. No i will not give your VM 32GB dedicated RAM. Stop. Asking. 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is being a bit (or more): introvert, self centered and egotistical a thing normally found in "computer people"?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cuz i'm affraid that's how i'd describe myself if i had to be completely honest
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm not really introvert though, just when i'm playing my games. when i'm not i'm a "people person"
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: still a bit self centered (into my projects) and egotistical
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I killed 2 respawns of ogre mercs because whoever designed that area sucks!
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: miss
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how does wait() work exactly? do i have to measure how long in seconds and put inside ()s?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Like wait(5) etc
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It basically prevents actions for that time
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: So if an npc has an mprog that takes 10 seconds, you can delay your actions till the mprog is done etc
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: is it a blocking call?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Like the riddle area, you answer the person, and it takes 1-2 second to be teleported
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Without wait, your mapper would keep trying to run
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: You could make a state machine-esque cexit
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can try
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: woah, little late
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Don't worry I do realize that without a way to break out of the blocking phase it would not work well ;)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ever wonder how many unique players there are on aardwolf?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: over time or all at once?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Either really, I see the same 30 or so people on the channels all the time but I see so many more people when doing the who command. I just wonder how many are unique people or just alts and mules
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: 95% of the players avoid public chat:P
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all at once is easy enough to see. over time? I'd guess around 2000 during a month
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: everyone online is unique
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Multiple ips get banned
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: So everyone on is different
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Aya: if you don't count imms, then yes :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: And, tons of people are idlers during work etc
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I vaguely remember keeping track of online usernames for a while and kicking names off the list if they hadn't logged in in a month, and I think the list hovered a bit higher than 2000 names
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cexit wait() question. some mprogs seem to take random ammounts of time to execute (land of legend - maine - paul bunyan). do i have to wait the maximum ammount? will cexit detect my room has changed already and resume before the whole ammount of seconds has passed?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is the info posted anywhere? :)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: no to first or second question?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: obviously this doesn't account for alts, but my guess is that most players don't have alts that they actually use
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: aardwolf is altophobic
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I don't know about that assumption I know for certain of a few t7-8 that have t1-5 alts, several at that, they play regularly on
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Anyone able to give me a link to the dread tower aq?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not me
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I do not
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I'll pay for dread tower, or dread tower aq info
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: mt
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i ask cexit confirmation to wait for 3 seconds instead of 2?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm a bit laggy
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: before doing the exit, do "mapper cexit_wait (seconds)"
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: wait(2) I think it would be
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh that, yeah:)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it will automatically account for any intermediate wait()
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i delete a particular cexit (instead of the whole room's cexits)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wait2 will make it wait each time, so cexit_wait is better if you just need to let it complete the commands
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if that's not sufficient, you can change the initial delay
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah, right click the room on the map
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: And delete the one you want
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: If you use wait(#) in a cexit, it adds to the exit confirmation too, just fyi
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wait(x) is good for situations like the lamp in Sho'aram, where you'll have to sit there for 5 seconds no matter what. cexit_wait is good for longer strings that won't necessarily be done within the normal 2 second window, or if you're laggy like Lob.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: cexit_wait example: Going to Land of Legend, buying a ticket, running to train, boarding train, running to the appropriate conductor... might take more than 2 seconds, so might as well do a cexit_wait 4 or whatever.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice at Arcidayne, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but also useful to compensate for a laggy connection
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: since the lag only impacts how the cexit is set but wont be a factor when the cexit is being used later
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: is there a decent android telnet client
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. paul teleports on tick :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i feel so smart
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: blowtorch is popular but nothing beats remote desktop to something with MUSH
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i thought it was a wait which started on player entry into room
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: mprog activates on tick :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what do you guys have on your cexits to reach maine's apple and johnny appleseed respectively?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm trying to decide on a number of seconds
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper cexits "Found 0 custom exits."
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oops. wrong color
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: why? :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess it'd be closer to mapper cexits "Found 0 custom exits."
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: can't see it
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: much better color :)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: this is my full path from portal exit to johnny appleseed: run e;buy 1;run wn;board;op e;e;op e;e;op e;e;op e;e;give virginia conductor;run 4n
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: run 4n from virginia dropoff to johnny appleseed?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my cexit starts in Ticket Booth and is this: buy 1;run wn;board;op e;e;op e;e;op e;e;op e;e;give virginia conductor
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah but don't you need to go all way east in train then wait for crash to reach johnny?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oh that kind of wait
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how many seconds do you put in your wait() to johnny appleseed?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it looks like I don't, I just go to caboose and wait by myself :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm sure a cexit could be set up for it. you would go to the caboose and just do something like, "mapper cexit wait(8)" and you can dial in the time if it's too short/too long.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and fiendish may i ask why you don't use cexits?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's such a core feature in the mapper?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: raded: i've just had to wait 35 seconds... such an odd number heh
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the shovel guy (maine) has had me wait from nothing (teleported me right when i entered the room, which coincidence or not was upon a tick) to 45ish seconds
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 35 seems like overkill. may as well do it manually :p 
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not setting a cexit for 35 seconds
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: can someone please help me fix my sound drivers?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i recall somebody saying they loved to help others with their hardware problems
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: used iobit friver booster to try and update it and it failed now i have no sound
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: tried uninstalling/reinstalling?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's as far as my tech savviness goes
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: where do i go to uninstall them?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I hate iobit software
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: are you on windows?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: XP yes
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: i live in the stone age
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: on XP? You are a daredevil :)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: click start menu, control panel, install/remove programs, look for whatever iobit installed, must have something with your sound card's name in it, then "remove"
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: then you go to your manufacturer's website, download the driver for your sound card from them, install, be happy
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: how can i check what the manufacturer is?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: i think its nvidia
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how did you acquire your computer?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: bought it pre built
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. gotta figure if it's off board or on board sound. probably on board though.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: lemme check
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if it's onboard, you need to get the drivers from your motherboard's manufacturer's site
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: its onboard as far as i can see
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can't help on how to find out your motherboard's manufacturer atm though. a couple of software (maybe cpuz) will do it
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: its foxconn
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can't remember if xp shows you anywhere
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but you'll need the model too
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: in order to download the drivers
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: ok... i have the box somewhere
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i think cpu-z will tell you in detail the exact model of your motherboard
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh yeah the box will do
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i thought you didn't have it
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you can also try uninstalling just the driver (through control panel -> hardware)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and have xp try to install a generic one or autosearch online (not sure if it does that)
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: where is mush's reconnect on disconnect option again?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: found it :p
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: connection menu
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but if you need to stay online you can also set a trigger or a timer
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I get sporadic disconnects.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: on mush, how do you turn mobsay off of the communication window?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right-click communication log, and don't echo mobsay.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Select 'Customize channels', then ctrl+select mobsay
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: so hold ctrl and double click mobsay?
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only single-click, provided everything else is highlighted already.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: ok that did it i think, thank you!
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I need to report a bug
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: there's a ton of nodding at Someone going on at recall
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Izocinoc nods at Pleiades.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods.
T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seechiriki nods at Pleiades.