T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: maybe one of you can help. i have a toshiba satellite L755 laptop and the sound keeps cutting out. for example when i watch a movie everything is fine for 2 minutes and then nothing. if i plug headphones in it doesnt happen. it also goes back to normal if i pull them out. (for like 5 seconds) works the same even if i put the headphones in the mic socket.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: seems capacitor related problem
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: i have noticed that i happens more often if the laptop gets hotter
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: on http://www.forums.toshiba.com/t5/Audio-Sound/Odd-Satellite-L755-S5153-sound-problem-windows-7/td-p/448299 some people suggest restoring system / reinstalling
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: ill take a look at that thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is there a way to retrieve whatever is currently typed into command line? (not yet sent)
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: SelectCommand()
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, that just selects it, not retrieves it.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: GetCommand(), sorry.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what about triggering typing? :p
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's what aliases are for. :p
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean triggering the hitting of keys before i hit enter to send
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean keylogger os something similar ?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: for example let's suppose every time i type a letter or space or anything, i want mushclient to check what i'm writing so far to try and offer "autocompletion". is that possible in mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmm, maybe set a trigger to go off every second or so, have it check the current incomplete input line, and go from there?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: MUSH does some "autocompletion". If you start to type a word, and then hit tab, it'll fill it in with the last seen word that begins with those letters.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but no triggering the typing i suppose?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So if I did 'tech -h', and then started typing lobi and hit tab, it'd fill in with Lobisomem.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm nice. didn't know about it
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No triggering on typing, no. But you can use programs like PhraseExpress to do autocomplete for you. You can even customize it to the client with autocomplete words so it doesn't pop up everywhere.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I use it, it's served me nicely.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i never liked autocompletion. it was just a random idea that popped into my head.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hell, I used it when I was doing billing for the doctor's office. Repetitive typing got to me, so I macro'd it to change screens, input the information I needed, and all that. Pretty soon, I was ctrl+shift+1ing, entering in patient information, ctrl+shift+2, entering in billing information, ctrl+shift+3, done.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what i wanted to do is on the fly macros
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: is there a way to run to a room name using the mush client mapper?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "mapper find <roomname>" will tell you where to "mapper goto"
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yeah there are some. Check Mapper help moving
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: look at extender help if you have that installed
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: if you are in the area use mapper area <room name>
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: does mushclient have a combination to escape a semicolon? I know I can turn it off, but am just curious of alternatives
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: are you looking to link commands?  use the semi stacked to combine?  im dumb if thats a crappy response.  
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: just for passing stacked commands into the alias built into aard
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yep then stack 2 semis to pass a single semi into the final command
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: a semicolon at the start of the line also works
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec sighs.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: I can't seem to figure out what this is coming from  GMCP DATA ERROR: ...dwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1723\MUSHclient\lua\json\decode.lua:91: Invalid JSON dat;hH;=;
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: errors keep popping up, seems like only when I'm in a group
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: then mushclient closes my connection
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well, 1723 isn't the most current code.. Try updating?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am having a brain fart tonight. Anyone know how to return a populated java 2d array recursivly?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: something to the tune of this http://pastebin.com/RuQQicjp
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: isnt java restricted to returning a single object?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: I believe so, but an object can contain other objects
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: aye, it is. I am returning a 2 dimensional array though which is a single object
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: In the example code I posted it would return just the last case of the end it found. I am trying to remember how to return the completed list
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: also can modify an object sent by refrence I belive, so multiple objects affected by code
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: an array sounds like multiple objects to me.  granted, its been quite a few years since i did anything in java.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Not sure about object by reference, I think java cannot do that
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: we are talking java, not javascript, correct?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: Java is always pass by reference
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yes Java
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I see no one has any input, seeing as we already got derailed into the minutia of the language
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: Do you need to create and populate recursively, or just populate?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Can you send me a link to the code plz?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It is a maze pathing algorithm
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: http://pastebin.com/RuQQicjp
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: already posted that
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am attempting to make a path inside a maze, from start to end. I am having a brain fart on how to store the entire path recursivly instead of just the end result
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: could put each move on a stack? I did something like that years ago with lego robots
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: after updating the most recent MuSHclient, and I want to get rid of the wolf background in my main window, plus the grey background in the mushclient window...should I just delete the images from the images folder?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's actually an FAQ question ;-)
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/aardclientfaq
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: though I've been coding in C# since that's what gives me the monies
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trepid nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Abelinc, just the man who I need degredating me currently. Any thoughts on the java question?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: haven't updated in a while
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: oh, man in the pasebin I posted I forgot to switch back the return on sucsess which is just the array restOfPath
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: which isn't being built at all anyway due to each call making a new restOfPath of the next correct path
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: When I have maximized my MUSHclient window, there is about 1/8"-1/4" of space along the right side border of the window that is not being used.  Sometimes that space is there, and sometimes it is not.  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I recommend spending a bunch of time and adding lots of debug messages
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: I cannot drag my window any further to the right because it is already 'maximized'
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: scroll bar?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: On the right side of the scroll bar is the border of the mushclient window.  past the window on the right is an additional space that is not being used.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: that is precious space that I would like to use.  sometimes i can maximize completely, and sometimes not
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you have the internal window maximized?
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: yes, both are maximized
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you aren't using Vista are you??
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: yes, windows vista
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: j/k messing with you :P
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trepid peers intently at Endymion.
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone using a Samsung SmartThings system or something similar? I am looking to set one up, but haven't talked to anyone who has one before
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sonet: I'm not a real programmer, so can't help with any real specifics, but you should be able to concatenate the parts into a path variable as you go
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper I made for tinyfugue is really just a copied MySQL dijkstra function...sucky but basically functional
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: i seem to be getting alot more errors since the last update
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello aards
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I figured it out. Needed a method that built the actual array
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Hello Fiendish
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: morning fiendish!
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's 6:30pm here 
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well good evening then :p
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: are you french?
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It is a comfortable 10:30 am here
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not French
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: your finger says you're from saint-denis
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: He hides his nationality so we don't blame a whole nation for him writing Abelinc
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I am in Saint-Denis
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what nation are we to blame for you writing abelinc then?
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: couldn't say
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: The nation of Fiendish
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: We will make him a sovereign nation
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I had my passport stamped by a sovereign nation once
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: er, by a one person nation, I mean
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: really?
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhzivland
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: LOL, "Following the founding of Akhzivland, Avivi was arrested and detained, but was released 10 days later after a judge ruled that the charge of "Creation of a Country Without Permission" did not exist"
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I sprayed coffee all over my monitor after reading that line
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I sprayed something too, but it wasn't coffee.
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I passed through there in...hmm....I think maybe 2007
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is combat start and stop gmcp'ed?
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how can i "trigger" it?
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: write in a plugin then you can get onPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: gmcpdata.status.pos this is what you need out of what you get from the gpcp
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: gmcp
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do i redirect remote socials to chat plugin window?
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: finger mendaloth
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: gmcp mapper just failed me. "mapper notes here" gave me an error. i reinstalled straight away, window reset, everything fine again (without closing mush or anything). did i lose the "new" mapping info between starting client and plugin reinstall?
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: what original codebase is aard? Rom? Diku?
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i thought it was smaug
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: yeah you're probably right, it's closedt to smaug ino too, forgot about smaug for a sec
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: interested in the mapper, not the gmcp one, just the regular ascii one
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: probably the best ascii mapper I've ever seen
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think Aard was diku originally. help diku
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immtrovert Anaristos Tech: read help DIKU
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: I believe it's custom 
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: tech *jinx anaristos You cannot find anaristos.
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/v3/v3diku.html
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: thanks, yeah it's heavy custom now,
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immtrovert Anaristos Tech: the help file explains all.
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: thanks team aard
T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pures Tech: I knew we could do it!
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is spellup info gmcp'ed?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: one of my plugins in mushclient has stopped displaying, not sure if it's crashed or something but the box for it isn't showing up
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: could someone help me out?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: reinstall the plugin ...
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: That didn't seem to work
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are 3 causes for that...(1) problem with the plugin, (2) it's showing up, but is hidden by another plugin's window, or (3) the plugin only shows the window when certain criteria are met
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: I don't see why it would be 3, it's always shown the plugin window before today
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then that narrows down your search criteria ;-)
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: it also doesn't appear to be hidden behind any other plugin windows, so that means it must be broken in some way
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you restarted MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: "bleed background color to edge" ON. not bleeding. does it need a mush restart?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, lobi: no, spellup stuff is not sent via GMCP
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: still not bleeding after restart. any ideas?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno what the bleeding thing is...have you changed the background of MUSHclient itself from what ships?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: nope. i have gotten it to work before. it pretty much makes my ColourNote("black", "white", "QUEST COMPLETE")'s white background to extend to right extremity instead of terminating at end of last word
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: right extremity of the output window
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bleed background colors works for me without a restart
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: does anyone have experience using the bastmush miniwin_quest plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: I use the miniwin events thingy from bast... which includes quests
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: oh, I don't think I have that one installed
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: I've been having some problems with the quest one, could you send me a link to the events one?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: it's included in the ... bast pack ... finger bast
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: I already have that pack installed
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: hang on, let me check my plugin list
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: turns out I just didn't have it installed :P
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: hehe 
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: does the events one include gq and cp targets?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: it does :D 
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: oh, that's great
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: I can get rid of all these other miniwins now
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: yay :) (yes that's the best thing)
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: would you also happen to know how to get the eq miniwin to stop displaying identify information on everything I hover over in it?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: never understood how the eq plugin works... unfortunately... would love to have it keep track of my sets
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: it seems to just show a list of all eq and then display identify in a popup when you hover over it
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: its only supposed to do that once to make a db of your stuff but it seems a bit off .. and anything new it will do it again.  
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: the problem I'm having is whenever I hover over something it identifies it, which spams up my window a little
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: I think it's a little buggy
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: I've just disabled it, I can always reenable it in the future
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so spellup scripts rely on the spellup {} tags to work? since i've been told their info is not delivered through gmcp?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Old ones rely on the spellup messages themselves!
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i imagine :p
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do i make it so the chat plugin does not capture say
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: right-click it, customize channels
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: there's 'say' and 'mobsay'
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: anyone having issues with firefox 46 crashing a lot?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: specifically, it goes into a dead hang and has to be killed manually
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how can i Note() or, better yet, ColourNote() in bold?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: a NoteStyle(1) before the Note(string) doesn't seem to be working
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm, NoteStyle not working for me either (from command line anyway)
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: alright. turns out i told output not to show bold/italics/whatever. told it to show from now on. problem solved heh
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: (config option)
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ah i must have same
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: though i tried underline, that didnt work either
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and now it turns out items are all colour coded in bold too. and i didn't know i could do that, didn't bold my portal to sendhia out :p
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. not really bold though, but bright colours and mush makes those bold...
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: what is a good font for mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Dina or my pref Fixedsys.  any fixed width font will do.
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: courier?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: is there a way to track effectively each round of combat for building my own damage tracker?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: do you already know about dtrack?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ya i know but i wanted to add more custom features
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: like if i alternate attack spells i want to be able to track both spells
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: I can't help you, I'm sorry. Why don't you post on the tech board ... could be that lots of ppl who could answer you have gone to bed.
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: thanks anyway :)
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you are familiar with triggers, you can see the damage messages, so you can track it that way
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: all combat rounds look similar, and they start with [##] Your xxx  ..... [#####] etc
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: i thought about that, but for cases when you can cast more than one time a round, it isn't accurate
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: has anyone ever proposed round tags?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in that case, no there's no way to know what is a "round"
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you could use it in such a way that you track what is spell round and what is combat round, and sort it that way
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: yea, i was wondering how then does the dtrack keep track of what a "Round" is 
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: more than 1 cast isnt really more damage anyway right?  its just an advantage such as timeshifting
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: at any rate you can track it using alternating rounds of melee
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: hmm, how does one distinguish whether this is a melee round or a spell round? do i build a table of all the possible melee attacks? Is there such a list out there?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you want to track rounds you could just track your battleprompt right?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: should show after every round
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: i thought about that, but if for example, you just happen to press enter, or use any command during a fight, it would send your battleprompt again and mess up the tracking
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well you'd need something to check against
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: battleprompt triggers but really you'd probably want to read the gmcpdebug data
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but you can't trigger off of the data itself, but you could use it to measure your state
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: the state information would just tell you that you're in combat, but not if a round has started or ended though
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont think gmcpdata will show anything pertinent to what hes trying to do
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: think tracking melee rounds as endymion said would be the way to go, but i haven't uesd enough weapons to know if there is a limit to the "melee weapon messages", or it differs with every weapon
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: StormGiant - do you mean "help damage types"?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well how does tracking melee rounds tell you if you started a new "round" on its own?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: problem with that, is it wont differentiate spells if he uses basic
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sure it does.. char.status tells you whether you're fighting and the enemy life %
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: melee is 1 per round. spell could be 2.  if you did a melee then you either casted/skilled inbetween or you did nothing
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ah interesting raded, so all weapons will follow this meesage and show [#] Your <dam_type_here> <Damage Message> <Target> [#]
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it is effectively a round tracker
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: has anyone ever seen weapons do damage not on the damage type list?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: as far as I know, yes
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how is melee 1 per round?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh, I guess if you have simplified battle messages or whatever that is..
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: Yajan: using damage 3, 4 etc
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: depending on damage output, you have 1 round of melee per round of fighting
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but yeah, either way it could trigger off multiple melee's if that's the case
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: do you do that normally? sounds like a hack to make it work
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ok so help damage type shows some of the possible damage types of a weapon, but not comprehensive huh
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: even using damage 0 you can work out trigger to differentiate melee vs spell/skill
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: with damage 0, the difficulty is separating rounds though.. not skill vs spell
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: raded, do you have an example of a weapon that has damage type not shown on help damage type?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try talking to Glaer, i think he has a damage tracker that works that way
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: cool thats really helpful, thanks endymion
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yajan: its easy - all combat rounds are consecutive.  when no longer combat round its done
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it just requires triggering message, and checking next line etc
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so it seems like he's happy with your advice, but just for my own understanding.. assuming you didn't use a spell, how would you tell whether you started a new round of combat or the melee line was part of the prior round?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: extra lines
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: if u use damage 3 for example, you only ever get 1 melee line per round
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if next line doesnt match combat message of previous line, its over
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right, extra lines is a way, monster health status is another..
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm talking about using damage 0, I don't think changing my damage prompt is a good solution, more of a hack
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: does anyone have a list of damage types that is more comprehensive than help damage types?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: monster health status if you have that reporting turned on, true
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so you keep looking at next line, but you'd have to check for all possible spells then right?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use damage 0, but my script turns my melee into 1-line and my spells into 1 line ;-)
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nightfall Tech: I am so confused right now.
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and spells can hit twice in a round but don't have to also
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it just has to be NOT melee yajan, not any possible spell
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: abe, are you able to share how you distinguish what's melee and what's not? Are you matching against a list of possible melee damage types?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but that's not a full "round" then?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: a full round is between 1 ending and 1 starting ??
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its ALL possible.  apply and try.  you'll figure it out
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you get really lucky, all fights end not on a full round
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that doesn't mean anything
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I remember visiting this problem way back and my triggers weren't perfect, which makes me curious about the best approach
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he just wants to track damage, so i asssume which mob is hit doesnt matter
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wanna track damage, then use dtrack...
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ya i only care about dmg to current mob being fought
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he wants to track multiple spells :)
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: but i would like to add custom features like tracking more than 1 spell at a time, as i alternate spells
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i say, trigger spell message
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alternating spells is usually silly
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: true, mob is either immune or you use best spell.
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: yeah, im doing that also to build up a database of mob weakness
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a horrible way to find mob weaknesses
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: is there something bettere?
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: inquisitor subclass
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well sure, the skill that gives you the actual resist/vuln numbers
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the attack spells don't have the same formula, so you still won't know weaknesses vs a better spell
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ah thats true, but assuming i don't want to class change to inquisitor just to get resist info..
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alts are great for that
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: As you mercilessly interrogate a will o'the wisp, you learn ... Mob Base Level   : 209 Identical Mobs   : 5 Times Killed     : 234 Mob Hp           :   24528/24528 Alignment        : a will o'the wisp is an Avatar of Darkness. pierce           :   -20    cold             :    32
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ok lol that looks like everything i need
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: such a pain to make an alt just for that lol.. hmm
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some MOBs change resists on repop as well
T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: orly didn't know that, even non-SH mobs?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and testing on punching bag MOBs isn't always a good indicator of which spells are better than others...know-it-all tier is +160 to bash and fire, and -160 to pierce and cold, for example
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: doh, ok so there's no clean way to get weaknesses without actually using interrogate is what you're saying
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weapons would be cleaner than spells, as the formula are known/constant
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: i see.. do you know of any weapons that have damage types not in "help damage types"?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: just want to make sure the triggering will work in all cases
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: there aren't any
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: Citlalin: there aren't any weapons that have a damage type not on the list in "help damage types"?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you won't have a weapon with a different damtype than is found there, but MOBs can invent damtypes
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ah i see
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: so it would be good enough to track my own melee damage based on the help damage type outputs then
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure...you also expressly control the damtypes of your weapons, so even if there were a weapon with one not in that list, you could simply not use it
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: if you want to get the complete resistance table on a mob, I'd use a changing flag weapon and I'd use a low level one.  A low level weapon will produce a distribution with fewer values, but it will still be enough to get a good average for each type.  you want fewer values in the distribution because too many make the process harder (it takes a lot longer)
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or change it
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: great this is really helpful everyone
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: many thanks, some great ideas here
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if all else fails, give up
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: <-------- helpful guy
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: although tbh, the game deliberately makes it harder to do any testing like this, it's a terrible idea imho but it is what it is.  chances are the only number you're going to get data on is your blood pressure going up.  trust me i've tried it.
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, cit has tried it
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: haha, ya i think they could easily just add round tags if they wanted to, but the fact that they haven't is telling
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rounds aren't important
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rounds have nothing to do with resists/vulns...damage per hit is the only thing that does
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (heh, cit also hit his head against the definition of rounds for quite a while)
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: yea i know, the rounds thing was an earlier discussion we had, about how to track multi casts of spells
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: without going into a debate or discussion on it, all I can say is that in this day and age people want to know what's going on, and deliberately barring them from that amounts to a disservice and I think it puts people off.  I have no scholarly studies to prove that of course but other than a few head-in-the-sand types most people I've talked to about this have expressed frustration at not being able to calculate whether eq piece A is better than eq piece B.
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ie using timeshifting
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the battlecry of the minmaxxer...the downfall of every game that has ever existed
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is the included gmcp handler exclusive?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean, can i make my own? will it work alongside the one that comes with aard package?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: anyone good with mobile broadband routers?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: whats the name of the best eq plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: do you mean eqSets for easy usage of level sets ?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: I think that deoends on what you personally think is 'the best'
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: o thought he said bast eq plugin lol
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: just the eq plugin that handles leveling sets and hopfully weapons
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: i agree its about opinion on best eq :P
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: Bast has a good one tho takes a bit of setting up but it works
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: main setting up is putting the eq into it it accounts for tiers weapons ,duel and shield
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: just tired of fighting with 10.dagger etc for my aard weapons
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: one command to swap between sets
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: how is eq inputted?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: just alias them
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: one ring to rule them all? bast is sauron??
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: use their id number, not names
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: you use id number and it checks for eq that isnt in the database
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: name of it?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: or link to download ?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: Bast eqSets
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: ok, 
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: is it under bastmush?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: i think so its been a while since i had to dl it
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: yeah i'm searching the page for it
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: hrm 
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: downloaded bastmush. i'm idiot to install this stuff
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: did you install it all at once ...
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Remarto Tech: only install from bastmush the stuff your going to use because it can become one big mess if you installed it all at once
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: havnt installed anything yet
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: trying to read documentation
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: any reason why the big map plugin is stuck on the world map and not updating to the local map?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: where is that plugin that sends remote socials to chat window?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: finger mendaloth
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades looks at [Outlaw] Mendaloth and pants lustily.
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: or abelinc
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: make sure he doesnt feel left out
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xdeadpoolx Tech: Random question. So i'm trying to make an alias to enter a portal and use mapper goto. But it's only wanting to use the mapper goto since it is an execute alias. Any way around that?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xdeadpoolx Tech: hello? :(
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xdeadpoolx Tech: oh duh. Thanks strazor
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Strazor bows deeply.
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: do i just need to define OnPluginTelnetSubnegotiation() in my script for it to do its job?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what are you trying to achieve?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i wanna dump whatever's gmcped onto my output
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the raw thing
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just use debug from aard_GMCP_handler.xml ?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i wanna learn :) i want to make my own gmcp handler
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: alright i just hit some ctrl, alt, shift, whatever combination and now my keyboard messed up
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: does anybody know the "language switch" combination by head
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: maybe you turned on sticky keys?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do i turn them off. lol cant type interrogation accent. brings mush menu down
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: left alt + shift
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: do a google search on it ... when I accidentally do something like that, i can always find the answer onlien
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: aw man thank you
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: worked :)
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: afk for lunch
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway according to http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=plugin_callbacks , OnPluginTelnetSubnegotiation will be called when you receive  IAC SB x <data> IAC SE ,  if x = 201 then it is GMCP info
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: victory!
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the callback function just needs to be defined but it needs to be in a plugin in order to work
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is there a way to "merge" two lua tables?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1283388/lua-merge-tables
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: considering you plan to rewrite GMCP handler I suggest you should start with familiarizing with google or similar site
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyone have recommendations for e-mail server security software? we use McAfee but it's been discontinued. Sonicwall is the other one we're looking at.
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: security is for loosers.  you should rely on obscurity!
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've been a fan of the barracuda appliances...or just throw it into Office365 and let Microsoft deal with it :P
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alzar nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Barracuda could work. not sure if Office365 would :p
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: most advanced thing we need is HIPAA compliant e-mail encryption capability.
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: office365 can do that
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of my clients is a third party call center which works in the healthcare industry. I have their Office365 email configured so that if they mark an email "confidential", it gets sent out using Azure Rights Management encryption
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works kind of similar to like the Zix mail product
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: What's the command to see the location users are currently logged in from?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: The one that lists by nation
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: domains
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nod, encryption works similar to that in McAfee, just put a tag in the subject line. Office365 security features work with physical e-mail servers if you're not using their cloud-based e-mail services?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well, virtual server technically, but it's on one of our in-house servers :p
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I haven't played with a premise Exchange server since leaving the library where we didn't need to deal with encrypted emails, so dunno what would be involved in integrating it
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html   good read
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: hmm .. anyone know what spellup plugin will auto practice for you .  
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Masrok, I don't know of any, but why would you want that?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my site has a plugin that will spam them better on ticks once you have cancel or negation, but it doesn't do the prac at a trainer part
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: weird. i can't see says anymore
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can't see my says
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: seems if i tell chat window to stop capturing says, it doesn't show anywhere
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to tell it to echo to main
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xdeadpoolx Tech: Random question, Every time i user mapper goto, it always types "help" then the speedwalk but it will only allow me to do it from recall (mota) any reason for that?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Check your runto prefix
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xdeadpoolx Tech: runto prefix?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, type 'runprefix'
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xdeadpoolx Tech: your currently have no run prefix.
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you using runto or xrt?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xdeadpoolx Tech: neither.
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh wait you said mapper goto
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bad cexit or portal probably
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, check portals next.  'mapper portals'
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: help runprefix
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xdeadpoolx Tech: Thanks alot guys. That was it
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: any idea why, when I connect to the mud it says I am not connected and gives me a yes or no box, then when I hit yes my miniwindows are scrambled all over the screen
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: anyone had an issue where they're moving the mouse using touchpad and it will periodically act as a click about every few seconds?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first thing I turn off when using touchpads is the tap to click
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: does it happen while the computer is both plugged in and unplugged?
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: Hadar, yes
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that's probably just your touchpad. some of them are really sensitive to clicking.
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah tap to click is evil
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: it started happening after this weeks windows 10 update
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe try updating the tp drivers
T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have a corrupted file somewhere, i have not gotten a windows update in a couple of months lol
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: update on the touchpad issue, it had updated drivers from 5/2 when it began happening so i tried rolling them back, appears to be fixed
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: welcome to the beta-testing program ;-)
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: whenever aard gmcp sends a subgroup char.vitals, comm.channel, does it sent all the variables for that subgroup?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: awesome. then i guess for k, v in receivedgmcp[k] do locallystoredgmcp[k] = v works?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: for merging local storage with whatever is received?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: my worry is that there was going to be a situation where only part of the subgroup's variables would be sent, then in that case that for was going to make me lose the variables that weren't sent
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: anyone play space engineers?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: spend time here
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I do
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: Is there any way to make the mapper recognize and use special (e.g. "board airship") exits?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: cexits here
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mapper cexit climb rope
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: full mapper tutorial : http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=12930
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: Awesome, thanks!
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: official mapper docs http://abelinc.me/mapper, and updated link to the "more tips" link on that page at http://abelinc.me/hosch :-)
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: abe's the man
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: the URL for the updated mapper_extender_2 as part of winklewinkles triple pack has changed, finger him for the new URL
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think you mean finger nokfah
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: finger nokfah for the updated plugin URL *
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: yep :p
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: In an object that has "Stats Added: 1" ... what does that mean?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It means it's had one additional stat added (I think through objstat)
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: Thanks Arcidayne!
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do i extract the "is_in_combat?" info from the aard plugin's gmcp?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i made a basic spellup script but i don't want it to try to cast if i'm in combat
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: GMCP info is on the aard wiki
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: is is a plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: but I can post a simple plugin that uses GMCP so you know what else to include
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that would be awesome
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: there is also an example on the aard wiki
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: just any script that gets any info at all. i can do the rest
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: 2 actually
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh lemme take a look at it then
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: ill post my quest plugin on pastebin for you too, hang on
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: you need to turn your scipt into a plugin to use GMCP afaik
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: not really, to use onPluginbroadcast you need it to be a plugin, but you can request info from GMCP at any time
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd be interested in how i could do it without the need for a .xml file if it's possible
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i just need to know if i'm in combat or not
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: http://pastebin.com/5nFne6q2
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: there's a plugin that uses GMCP
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: making a plugin is easy with MUSH
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: there is a plugin wizard that does all the work
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: to turn a script into a xml file (plugin)
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh yeah i've made a couple of plugins
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd just rather not create yet another one if it's possible to go without it
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: I don't think it is tbh, i've tried using GMCP in scripts and it's always failed me until I turn it into a plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: idk why
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it is Storm
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: maybe post a note on tech board? :)
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: some functions will only work in a plugin. onplugintelnetsubnegotiation() is one of them
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd guess there can be workaround though
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: here we go, someone who knows more than me, I will be quiet now :P
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: sonet can you post the smallest possible example of checking whether i'm in combat or not?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: res, gmcparg = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval","char.status") will request without being in a plugin, ie, this works in a client scriptfile or alias/trigger
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at A macabre Sonet.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only need the CallPlugin, nothing else.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: i
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: if you use that line then check for the string "fighting" in one of the parts it returns you will know
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what will be stored in res and gmcparg in this case?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er, mis.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: so you didn't read the wiki
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: if you spend a second reading it you will know exactly what you need 
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm under a firewall. i need to use google's "translate this" to open stuff. and it does try to translate code heh :p so it's harder to read
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: People are expected to read? Most people just want the answers spoonfed to them without any effort.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have a 1 year old climbing me so I can't build it for you right now
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh sorry sonet. i'll try to figure it out. that callplugin info was already pretty much what i needed to know
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Install Mushclient_help and do mchelp callplugin
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: hmm I have it in one of my plugins
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: http://pastebin.com/XREquG7m
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: copied the relevant parts
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By the way, Lobisomem... is it Wikipedia that's blocked, or aardwolf.com that's blocked? The wiki entries are hosted on Aardwolf's servers, so I'm not sure you'd be blocked from it.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: all you really need is the callplugin and then something like : char.status ("state", 3) 
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: but I really dont know, char.stautus ("state", 3") will indicate fighting, not sure what it is for not fighting
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the exact firewall rules are beyond me, but i cannot navigate aardwolf's main site or the wiki. gaardian maps are also blocked, though gaardian outfitter (and roominator) are NOT blocked
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anything BUT 3, Stormblades.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: what about sleeping ^-^
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: or resting
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: or afk
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Aard wiki GMCP page has a list of states
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: or LD
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wouldn't be relevant to have a LD state :p
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: just saying :p
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: ive said too much already, turning tech off for now :P
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 12 states
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, 3 is not fighting, 8 is combat.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: help telopts will tell you all the states.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyone have any advice on how to exorcise the ghost that keeps opening my laptop's disc drive? :p
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: in fact, can you get to pastebin Lobi? I could copy and paste out the GMCP stuff on the wiki?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sonet already did that.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: oh, turning back off then lol
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burzum Tech: raded check if wscript is running in processes 
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: pour holy water into the drive
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: no I pasted code from one of my plugins that checked if you are fighting
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Thought you did "relevant parts" to the wiki page, heh.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no wscript in processes. holy water will probably work too well.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, well then.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Send it to me, Raded. I'll exorcise it for free.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no! this laptop is too pretty and too mine.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'd get it back. *blink*
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: disabling the drive in device manager didn't stop it, so now I'm going to utter a prayer while rebooting.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I wonder why William Arends stopped with the visual aardwolf plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: gotta run see 2yo's first presentation :p
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: she even "bows" when we clap haha
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thank you a lot for the help guys. see you later!
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol presentation is not but in an hour
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do i bring s&d's gui back on screen after it's completely out of it?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grump Tech: is there any way to change the colour that deep blue shows up as in? I use both mudlet and muchclient (depending on on the machine I'm on)
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bhengis Tech: does anyone know why SnD ht would be acting like the room the mob is in hasn't been mapped, but qw works normally? or more specifically what to do about it?? :D
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: What can I do If I want a speciel key assigned to go north and my keyboard doesn't have a keypad? I'm using MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: how would i make a trigger that reads the area keywords, i have a problem with the paging, i must send enter else it won't proceed
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why page?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: could do pagesize 0 first
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: you dont get the full list in one call
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: pagesize 0;areas;pagesize 300
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: whoa, I like this pagesize thing... #themoreyouknow lolololol
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: it works thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grump: Game -> Configure -> ANSI Colors...click the color you don't like and you can make it look however you like
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hugotski: You can use any key with Accelerators...http://abelinc.me/aardclientfaq, then on the right-hand side menu, click on "Writing Macros"
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tufke: I normally recommend leaving pagesize off, as the client's scrolling features are far superior to the MUD's (there are a couple caveats with super-long lists, though)...but you can also use "area keyword <some more info>" rather than grabbing the entire list in one go (and of course, just "areas" which was suggested wouldn't even work to get you the area keywords)
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sonet: William Arends doesn't play Aardwolf...
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Thanks Abelinc :)
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drigg Tech: The mapper has detected a speedwalk initiated inside another speedwalk. Aborting.            What exactly does this mean?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: bot
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: this incident has been reported
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drigg Tech: Nice, Is this place filled with nothing but key board warriors?...
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably have a portal or custom exit containing a "mapper goto" command
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drigg Tech: I've got over 1100 + aliases, but none have ever conflicted...
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wow
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue is that the MUSH mapper doesn't "move you" in its frame of reference as it follows a path that it lays out (unlike what Zmud does)
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drigg Tech: well the alias is mapper goto (room number). That is all it is...
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not what you typed, it's what it is trying to do after that
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a custom exit or a portal command that you have within the mapper
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to use "mapper cexits" and "mapper portals" to see what those items are...one of those probably executes an alias which is a mapper goto command
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can try using "mapper where <that room number>", I'm not sure if it would display the path or crap out
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drigg Tech: craps out
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: some of the computers in my lan are having DNS issues, others are not. Anyone have an idea on what would cause this? flushing the dns cache doesn't change a thing, but changing to google dns does the trick.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: have you run a malware scan on them?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Yes, they're free of malware.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: I'm pretty sure it's an issue with the dhcp lease, not with the computers.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you say an issue with DNS resolution, do you mean finding each other, or finding external websites?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Finding external websites.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the latter, DHCP lease shouldn't impact DNS resolution
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: where can i find a list of the used RGB codes in styles ?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: styles uses text and textcolour in a table for each run
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: i know but i want the codes i cant find a help file with all color codes in RGB
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all color codes would just be 00 through ff of any given color...
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so I'm not quite sure what you're looking for
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: but i prefer the colors used by the mud
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same colors, actually
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: prefer how? its a matter of application right?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: isn't their a mushclient command that displays all colors and their codes?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help xterm
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: i can Note a style and look for the RGB code but isnt there a help file for all text and background colors ?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a plugin to do that, but "Note" isn't a MUD thing, it's a MUSHclient thing...
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: are you talking about the Debug function in mushclient
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're talking about 2 differen things
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can type "color 256" and "color raw256" to see tables of what the MUD will send
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they're not RGB, they're xterm colors
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: i know that lol, im just looking for all rgb colorcodes used by the mud
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: xterm hmm
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD doesn't use RGB colorcodes...
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: hmm oke i know 65535 is byellow
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you open up the web link from help xterm?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: my exit level locks don't seem to be working
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: set a lvl 202 lock so i don't enter the masq angry drunks room. i go through it all the time
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which room did you set the lock in?
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i set the lock at the room before the bar (prolly street room)
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lemme double check
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: trade boulevard roomid 29851
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: nevermind. figured it out
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: "e" was locked
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably have a cexit to open the door
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: "o e;e" wasn't
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah :) heh
T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drigg: did you ever figure out what you have in your config that resulted in the speedwalk aborting?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: whats the command to tell mapper this room is start of zone?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: there's no mapper command for that.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rishken (
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i don't think the mapper has that by default... for the extender it's xset mark
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: running into problems with exits and multipart zones, mapper keeps running me to wrong area
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: if you're using Winkle's extender, the command is xset mark. However, it is an extension of the mapper, and not part of the mapper itself.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: yeah i am
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: i'll try it thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: where is the command stacking toggle for semicolon in mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weeping Nienna Tech: alt+enter, input, then commands
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: made this accelerator "Accelerator ("ctrl+up", "north")" How do I add the command "scan" when I hit "ctrl+up"? 
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: "north;scan"
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: "north;;scan"
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: ohh should have thought of that! but thanks :)
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: only one ; though?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I just woke up, I don't know what client he is using
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not positive with accelerators, but I know that for macros, you would make an alias northscan that does that, and you'd have it call that
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's using MUSHclient
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: mush
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hugotski )
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hugotski :)
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd say Accelerator ("ctrl+up", "north;scan") then?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try it. if it works, great...if not, do what I said
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: with Accelerator ("ctrl+up", "north;scan"), aardwolf will split the commands, with Accelerator ("ctrl+up", "north\nscan") aardwolf will receive both commands already separated by mushclient
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf would not split the commands
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. true
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf doesn't recognize ; as a command seperator except for runprefix and aliases
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: second option then. use the \n i think
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: use two ;'s
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no: third option, use what I wrote :P
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://mushclient.com/forum/?id=7794#39...If you want to do something fancier than simply sending something to the MUD, make the accelerator send a word that matches an alias, for example: Accelerator ("ctrl+H", "check_health")
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: accelerators execute by default right?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean instead of Send()
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: they Execute() right?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: north;scan doesn't work 
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd be inclined to take the advice of the guy that wrote MUSHclient...
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: use \n
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: north;
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is the advice that I gave in the initial response
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: "Accelerator ("ctrl+up", "north\nscan")" brilliant :) thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mushclient problem. i have w10 and 2 monitors. 1 is 1024x768, primary is 1200x1024. mush thinks its on the smaller win. everything is big and not sharp. on the other win its fine. what to do?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: eh. trying reboot. as always:P
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you wait long enough, microsoft may tell you to upgrade to win11
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I hate Windows after all these years of dealing with the nonsense as a technician, but I must admit I hate W10 the least.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: reboot didn't help. mush still thinks its working on a smaller monitor
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Go linux :P
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: linux > all
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris is agreeing with that Shake your Bootysattva person again...
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i upgraded ati drivers just a day a go. now suddenly it messed up everything. had to set the refresh rates and resos manually
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: chrome
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I'm a network / system admin and also sometimes do side work with home PCs, so I must use windows
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: chrome thinks its on bigger monitor always now. the apps dont detect the reso anymore
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: tech try disabling the secondary monitor after dragging all windows to the main one?  then re-enable it
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: seems worth a try
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Secondary displays and multiple sound devices has always been a problem area for Win
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I took the free upgrade on this desktop from 7 to 10, and all software still worked...amazing...only thing was when I tried a certain game I had to choose the display settings again
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Otherwise it's proven to be truly backwards compatibile for the first time ever
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: only problem im having with windows 10 is modem software from huawei
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Is the device really old?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Another thing on W10, they do not try to shove the metro (touchscreen) interface in your face.  Server 2012 (win 8 server) has it, lol....a touch screen server hahahahahahahahhahahahaaaaa
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Is anyone else having trouble getting packages from nuget today?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: That is so you can get a 'feel' of your server
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Next time I'm in a bad mood at work I might call MS and tell them I bought a new touchscreen display and I want to learn how to manage a server using only the metro interface haha
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: unplugging didnt help mush
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: still gets it wrong. using the smaller monitor scaling
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: watch Ironman movies - see Ironman on action controlling servers 
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: hah
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Rather than plugging it, try dragging all windows to your main display.  Next close all the applications.  Finally go to display settings and select show only 1 on multiple displays.  Finally launch all the applications again
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: Don't do it! You will end up like a battery (Matrix) or dead (Skynet).
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Basically you want them to remember they are on the main screen, closing them down _may_ force them to save the settings.  You might try show only 1 first then close the applications second
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: solved. there was this "Change the size of text, apps, and other items:125%". i swear i didnt do it.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: ah nice
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: off to work
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: seems the difficulties started with the ATI driver upgrades - so blame ATI (not Microsoft, unless Microsoft was indirectly responsible) (unless the wrong drivers were selected and downloaded)
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: probably yep.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Microsoft is ALWAYS to blame
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I prefer blaming Canonical.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: now the icons are jumping around the desktop:P
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: they've changed places twice:P
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: so far 2 driver issues with w10. unlike those unbelieveable 0 with w7
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: does the mapper plugin also broadcast its results to other plugins ? i would like to auto recover from agro mobs on the track
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: gmcp won't tell if an exit's door is closed/locked/not will it?
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: no but you can use the mapper or parse the exits tag
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: closed exits are between ()
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm true
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't need to receive result broadcasts to recover from aggro mobs. you can use mapper resume.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: i know but i want my plugin to send mapper resume to the mud
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish wrinkles his face, squints and looks around blindly.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you can also trigger a "non fighting stance" gmcp to "mapper resume"
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's...stupid
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper resume is an alias that your plugin can fire without sending anything to the mud
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: yes i know but i have a plugin which takes me to a mob fast it stops now when an agro mob is on the route
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, without sending anything directly, anyway. obviously the mapper resume will then send something.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, well, I've given you the best answer.
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: oke tnx would be nice if the mapper plugin would broadcast the mapper area <room> result so i could use mapper goto <roomid>
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just use mapper resume
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: yes i will thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also, as it turns out, the mapper already broadcasts results
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but that's unimportant here because you shouldn't be using the broadcast for this
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i am always waaaaay to proud of myself with i upgrade the aardclient without losing everything
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: me too
T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I've been meaning to ask, I'm using latest aardwolf client + bast. And I'm noticed a fair bit of 'lag'. Is there any easy way like disabling some trackers to speed up things?
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so apparently my gfx card sucks too much to play overwatch... can anyone recommend a value for money midrange gfx card?
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: tomshardware usually has decent guides
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: Geforce gtx980
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok, cool
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is it ok to have a plugin that binds single key either to move or to kill? like I press F1 if there are no mobs then plugin moves me to next room, if there is a mob then it sends kill mob
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thearion Tech: help stacked commands might help
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: does anyone here use the bast spellup miniwin plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: aye
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: it seems like it hasn't added any of my recent spells and I've forgotten how to manually add them
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: click on spells and click the box for the ones you want . its all in a spreadsheet list
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: which checkbox do I need? there are 6 columns
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if you hover over the letter it tells you waht that column does.   requested is ones you want to cast on yourself.
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: ah, great
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorua Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dyro Tech: is this a known error/bug that all room descs have {rdesc} tags in em?
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: dyro you might have to turn off some of the "tags"
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: typing tags will show you more
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: what is the english name for this?: https://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-718b7910b07ad3b555827ec523aacc7b?convert_to_webp=true
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Hipster
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: bearing?
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yep
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: but this is that certain type. cant find a proper name
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its a "ball transfer unit":)
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyone know if mushclient timers stop firing when world disconnects?
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archemedies Tech: would say yes
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archemedies Tech: because if you are not connected then no commands can go through to the realm
T3/r7/2016-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah they stop when world registers as disconnected.  and they start again when connection restores (before login though)
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: I installed the search and destroy plugins, but now I get the error "Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error." when I try to use xcp - any suggestions?
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: get nokfah's fixed version
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: finger nokfah for more info
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: after you install nokfah's fixed version and your hunt trick doesn't work send me a tell and we'll fix hunt trick together
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if you made a cup from wood, what would you use to coat it to make it permanently nice and healthy while still having the wood's texture?
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: there's a substance for that
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: what?
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not sure the name in english
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: lacquer
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: must be completely safe for healt
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: mmm, the taste of lacquer -- bleh aaack bleh bleh
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: the taste of wood though ...
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: not even sure that marine lacquer is impervious to hot liquids - unless the wooden cup is only used for cold edible liquids
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: the cup is made for beer. there is alcochol
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: the choice of wood: extremely nonporous hard and expensive, or cheaper and not so hard
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: If it is for beer (i.e., cold, not hot) you might want to look at this guy's site. http://all-about-renaissance-faires.com/woodmugs/
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: with modern technology, heavy tonne presses to stamp out those cups in mass production may permit cheap woods and materials to be used - likely not going to sell enough to justify the startup costs
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: the guy likely does not lacquer his mugs, unless the medievals did
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: those mugs look way too shiny to be polished only. maybe shellac
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: He uses epoxy
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: mmm, the taste of epoxy resins
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: the stomach turns at the mention of epoxy -- shiver
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Actually, as applied, less toxic than what would leech out of uncoated oak
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. most of the lacquers are like that. but still, if you put strong alcochol in it..
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: whiskey barrels are made out of .. oak?  -- "aged finest toxic whiskeys!" 
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Thought we were talking beer. Start glassblowing if you want handmade ware for liquor.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i know a guy who has a lazer and a cnc. not a glass blowing oven
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: bourbon is required to be aged in new oak barrels.  scotch whisky is usually aged in used bourbon barrels.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Compare hangovers between liquor aged in oak and a clear spirit.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: as a nondrinker of alcohols, unlikely to compare those two bad choices
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: as for waterproofing a wooden cup, just use mineral oil from the drugstore
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: clear spirit may yet be poisoned by what the distillery materials were made of: plastics, erodable metals, aluminum, et cetera
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: that's why you don't use those materials in your still :p
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: mmm, the taste of mineral oil -- gag ycch
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: do not underestimate the corruption and greed of the businessmen
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: give me all your monies
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Noes!
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: businessmen may be tempted to decrease expenses by using cheaper materials, and raise the prices with the extra profits in a contingy fund to pay for the lawyers to defend legal actions, and come out ahead on the profits
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: that is a common (corrupt) business practice
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Isn't corruption dishonest actions by those in power?
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: never underestimate greed and corruption
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: no whitewashing the corruption by those following orders
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: contingency*
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: if nobody sues, more profit
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: If people could sue just for a company making or selling cheap stuff, Walmart would have been out of business a long time ago :P
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: along with the majority of s
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: along with the majority of retail companies
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: there is a difference between good safe cheap stuff and bad dangerous cheap crap
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: when some people sue (especially in a class action) there is usually a reason
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Quadrapus, you talk like you are defending and whitewashing those business practices
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I just like picking holes in your statements :P
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: you're not succeeding
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus smirks.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: how do i get my health/mana/xp bar back after its stolen by GUI gremlins ?
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: reload the plugin, or 'resetaard' should reset to default layout.  I think.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: awesome, thanks. one more question...how do i "unlock" the windows...so i can move and resize them...noob questions i know, sorry
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I forget, its one of the options in the top row of File, view, connection etc
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: doesn't resetaard default to them being moveable/sizeable??
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mine aren't locked in any way..
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: theres a command for being able to resize it.... anyone ?
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: please. i cant move my windows around or resize . help !
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you should be able to hold lef click near top border of each window and drag to move them
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if you know of a way to prevent that (effectively locking the windows in place) tell me about it cuz i'd like to lock mine hehe
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: yes, "should". that is what is not happening... there is a lock and unlock function and i cannot remember what it is .
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: very frustrating
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: someone must know
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Biker might, he knows everything
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: ok, i know this is annoying, so last time i ask for now....resetaard puts all the windows neatly up in the top corner. that's fine. But I cannot grab, move, resize them....i used to be able to, and there's a command to turn this on/off... aargh !
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoom Zoom Zoot Tech: okay in fiendish's faqs it has 'aard layout unlock'
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: fantastico ! an answer ! 1000 invisible credits for you, and a camel for your family !
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: it works. you are a saint.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: note reply 7061
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: alright. dictate it to me
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: Anyone feel like helping me troubleshoot a trigger?  I feel like it's a pretty straightforward "rearm when disarmed" trigger, but it doesn't seem to be working.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what is your trigger and send?
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: trigger is DISARMS you and
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: you want to cry
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: send is get eapon wield eapon
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: send is get \eapon wield \eapon
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: capon
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 2@
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: send is get @weapon wield @weapon
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not using regex i assume
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dont you need * before and after your phrase?
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: No, not using regex
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: please start
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: My original was ^.*DISARMS you and.*$ but I thought the regex might be screwing it up.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that should work
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: ...  o.O  And it mysteriously started working.  wtf.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: Thanks for the help.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: DISARMS you and
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: you want to cry
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: DISARMS you and you shed a single tear
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is that triggering your stuff adraxus?
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica enthusiastically high-fives Endymion!
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: yeah, totally working now, for some reason.
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hard knocks regex tutorial
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: regex rox
T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: No, I know regex and I was using it, it just wasn't actually working.  No idea what was wrong there.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: any idea why every time I log in my miniwindows are completely scrambled?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: state file saving issues?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Not sure, everything else seems to be saving state well, just the miniwindows. Any way you can think of to check?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Using latest aardclient+bast plugins, is there a config way to stop the inventory window from identifying everything my mouse hovers over?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: It's handy, but it keeps crashing the plugin if it goes too fast.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: fiendish. care to point me to some resource teaching a basic algorithm on quickest route from a to b in a network of nodes? (or point me the file+line of mapper fuction which does that)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: the basic ones are djikstra and bellman-ford. wiki is sufficient
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thanks :) that should help already
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Lobisomem: look for a function called findpath in aard_GMCP_mapper.xml
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: and i believe fiendish has implemented djikstra
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: bast, are there going to be any updates to your r2096 package? your plugins are great
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Aduin: there isn't a toggle for that, sorry, put in a request at https://github.com/endavis/bastmush
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: eventually, I am in one of those phases where I don't mud as much, so it may be a while
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ok thanks anyway :) i fixed some stuff myself, but its great how the plugins are still largely functional even after many years
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can always send me the changes and I will incorporate them
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ok i will do that when i've tested them :)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Alright :), thanks for letting me know.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've replaced findpath in the development branch
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what does that mean fiendish? did you change the algorithm?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for the record, I don't do Djikstra's because all edge costs are uniform
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just a breadth-first search
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: which algorithm do you consider best for aard mapping?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Djikstra's algorithm is BFS with non-uniform edge costs
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ah ok, then i think it was swalec, i've been analyzing both
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so they're almost identical
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Djikstra and Bellman-Ford are useful more for when you want to optimize for something that isn't exactly equal to the the number of links with all links costing the same
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ya i guess edge weights are all the same on a mud, so djikstra and bellman ford simplify to a BFS
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: best for aard mapping has to be a simple BFS. you can't "accurately" do A*, because the map isn't euclidean
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hear Mudlet tries to generically use A*. I imagine they do it by pretending that the map is safely euclidean. It probably works well for most scenarios.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: in what way is the mud map non-euclidean?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: was about to ask
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: googled but my brain failed me
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, going to have to look at the pathfinding functions, since I recently translated them to python for bastproxy
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, I discovered kinda accidentally that my hilarious findpath functions were taking serious performance hits from all the data management and calls out to sqlite
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I really wanted to keep it, because doing BFS completely through sql calls is really funny to me, but I had to change it to pure lua because otherwise searches just hang the client
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: wait
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is my HD reading every time the mapper finds paths?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, not really
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sqlite is really really good at caching
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but punching through the lua/sqlite interface has apparently really serious cost
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is that why you were talking about serializing everything into memory the other day or i'm just messing everything up?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so it turns out that loading the entire DB into memory has literally 0 effect if you keep all the sqlite calls
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have to run and cook some dinner real quick. if you're still around in an hour or two we can talk about this more
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i will be
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: dude and now i miss computer science :(
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: wait, so it is more efficient to load a whole db into a lua table then utilize it instead of calling the sql?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: absolutely as long as there's enough memory (and nowadays 10-20mb is nothing)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I doubt that because you cannot benefit from indexes
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: sql - hd read/write. lua var - memory read/write
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: why not thrachx?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: bleh, I will need a rewrite of a few things to use this. Looks like I am starting yet another experimental branch of my stuff
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have 5 item table then sure lua will be faster
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: its 900k items or so
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have 5k items in table and need to find item that meets specific criteria - quite likely sql will be faster because of indices
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but can't you implement such indexes and work with memory? reading/writing from/into hd only on open/close of mush?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure you can, but you were talking about reading whole DB tables into Lua tables
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah i'm pretty certain fiendish mentioned that possibility a couple of days back. serializing the mapper db
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but i might be confused too heh
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: hmm, I guess I should have put my SQL call into a LUA table anyway, seems like I am doing all my work on each "call" to the table. Must have been drunk
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I mean I see that it would be a definate gain in performance to get the 300 or so items from the 900k db and put them in a table instead of working on them off of the select
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: xcp
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ops
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your bot broke.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: must be funny to witness a bot going haywire
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's happened. It's how some bots have been caught before.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i think it was the night before yesterday i was in aard hotel and some guy spam scanned the room like 20 times straight
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bhengis Tech: is anybody on familiar with blowtorch? Since i last had it open, all of the buttons i set up have disappeared and its back to the original default buttons. How do I get them back? or can I?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: later than I thought, but I'm back now
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: wb
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: can you elaborate on what you were saying about LUA and SQL earlier?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Sonet: as it turns out, the answer to "so it is more efficient to load a whole db into a lua table then utilize it instead of calling the sql?" is "yeah sometimes"
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let me describe the scenario...
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you familiar with how breadth-first searching works?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, so in order to search you need a connected graph to search ON
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let's say that the information needed to reconstruct that graph exists either in a SQL database or in a series of Lua tables
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: on the one hand, you can ask the database "hey database, what rooms are connected to the following set of rooms: (room1, room2, room3, etc)?"
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is extremely pretty. it coalesces the entirety of a breadth scan in a single request
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I really really like it because of how beautiful it is. unfortunately it seems like it's not that great in practice.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: So what is better then? 
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I mean is it really efficient to load your db into a lua table at startup and utilize it like that?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because like, on the other hand you can say "Hey Lua table, for each room in the following set of rooms: (room1, room2, room3, etc), add the rooms that are connected to them to a list without duplication (this part is given to you basically for free, because lists in Lua are actually hash tables)"
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and so you say "for k,v in pairs(rooms[room1].exits) do next_breadth_list[v] = true" or something
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and I know you're going to say "but then you have nested loops, and nested loops are slow", but like the beauty of the first form is desceptive
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: deceptive? 
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one sec. I have to set up my mosquito net. I'll finish this in just a minute
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok back
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: wb
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh i wish to have my own mosquito net. maybe after i've have my old boots mended
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I thought he was going to finish when he got back
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, so the thing about the first form, in all of it's beautiful simplicity that captures the very essence of a breadth first search in a single command, is that getting from "the following set of rooms: (room1, room2, room3, etc)" in Lua form to "the following set of rooms: (room1, room2, room3, etc)" in SQL-ready form is not only an expensive series of string concatenations
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not only that, but the query that gets constructed is actually wildly complicated and very importantly _cannot_ be optimized
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because you cannot pre-optimize a query with variable length lists
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: actually that's technically untrue. you cannot pre-optimize a query with TWO variable length lists
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: believe me I tried
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the query is something like "find rooms connected to LIST_OF_ROOMS_1 that is not also in LIST_OF_ROOMS_2"
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because of course you never want to look in rooms you've already looked in, to prevent loops
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (remembering to always cull is actually the single most important lesson in any pathfinding)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so anyway, you've got these conversions of lists to comma-separated strings for lists that are thousands of items long. And then you have these non-pre-optimizable SQL queries that contain two lists, each of which are thousands of items long
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: dunno which task are you solving guys, but in many db-engines there are temporary tables for such problems
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish smirks.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the overhead of doing, first, all the conversion from the previously acquired connected set of rooms into the necessary comma separated string format to wedge into a SQL query, and then second, to break out of LuaJIT momentarily to pass that information over to SQLite*, is more intensive than doing the above nested loop
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because this is also nested loops. it's just kinda masked by all the other going on
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: * - I also have a theory that because the SQLite interface in MUSHclient is not explicitly using LuaJIT FFI it causes the LuaJIT optimizer to abort, which would further hurt performance.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose I could replace it with yet another DLL
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Yeg: irrelevant
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Yeg: you can load the entire database as in-memory and it has no affect on performance at all
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: I can use temp tables instead of long comma-separated lists. In some engines :) never worked with sqlite
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: It's possible
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think I might have had a reason for not doing that, but I don't remember?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I might just not have considered it
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm no sql expert
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: neither am I. Once I used temp tables to implement gauss-elimination within sql... I think BFS in sql would be almost as ugly as gauss.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's this funny point in the pathfinding where it says "can I portal from this room?" and if the answer is yes it then dumps all the portal destinations into the list of next rooms to check and then never checks that again
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: same with recalls
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: without that it's probably pretty straightforward to do that way. but with it, I don't know how you structure that query.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: does the mapper have some way i can set a cexit like this? mapper cexit_insert 40420 40421 climb aboard
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think someone asked for it once, but I don't remember _why_
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can do that with portals though using fullportal
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if want to add this cexit_insert myself, from the db side it seems only the exits table needs a record inserted but i notice the mapper is doing something in memory - is there anything i should watch out for?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all kinds of stuff
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is there a reason for wanting this?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i find the cexit_wait a bit clumsy, i often lag and i either have to use a large cexit_wait or go back and forwards until lag doesnt interfere
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, I suppose I'll suggest then that you just make sure to touch anything that the normal cexit function touches. and then send the function to me for inclusion.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: OR just create a custom alias for the ones that are a long lag time.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in the process of major changes. can't guarantee that anything you do that I never see will continue to work
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its my internet that lags, its not predictable
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: AH.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so just make sure I see whatever you do that you want to keep working
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: wasnt planning to touch the mapper, just modify db directly
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: it sounds like too much work already
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: and if your internet connection is laggy it's not client side anyways. :)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: strazor, i didnt really understand that comment
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: overall it'd probably be faster and easier just to use a stupid long cexit_wait when you run into issues but I'm lazy
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yea
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, if you do decide to scratch that itch properly, send it my way
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetkax )
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: (if it were up to me, humans would have never advanced technology. it'd just be me shouting dumb solutions at people.)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: When/how does mapper check character level? It's currently trying to use a portal I'm below the level lock for
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: "mapper portals" has a column with the portal level, is it ok in there?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at Zetkax.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: Yes, I set it when I last tiered.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you dont need to change it for every tier ...
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't change it at all, really.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You set it once, and forget it.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it uses GMCP data, the same as the other little windows that display your level
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And you set it at the level of the portal, not what level you can use it at.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you can set it again if you get the same portal with a different level
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper will use any portal equal to or less than your level plus tier*10
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The mapper is smart enough to say, "Hey, he's tier 3, level 47, so any portal that's level 77 and under, he can use!"
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: Oh, cool. But my problem is that it's trying to use the portal when I'm too low level
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because you probably told it to.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is the level according to mapper portal?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: When you do 'mapper portals', what level is shown for that particular portal?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nod, it has to be a weird portal entry or a busted cexit.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: 15
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you're level 14, so it should be using a level 15 portal
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Bishoujo Raded.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: which portal is it?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But what level is the actual portal?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: Amulet of the planes
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: 25
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah, because you changed it to level 15.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You need to set it back to 25.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you should set the mapper portal to 25
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: T1 lvl 14 means any portal level 24 and under in "mapper portals" is fair game.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: Ah, I understand now. I'll have to delete the entry until I can reset it then
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, he changed it. He updated it to 15 to say "I can use it at level 15". But instead, the mapper thinks that the portal is level 15, not 25.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the help for mapper portallevel does say "do not manually account for tiers". If that wording is unclear, please let me know what you think would be better.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In short, never ever deviate from the portal's actual level. :p
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: Ah, I see that line now. It's under the 'mapper portallevel' command
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think a majority of the time, people don't read that far into the help. The extra infos attached to each command just seems one entire block. It would be nicer, I think, if you could separate each command and info paragraph with a space. But then you have the problem of using a lot of space. :\
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: only thing I can think of is mention in the level prompt that it is the level of the portal, not the level you'd like to use the portal at.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: how can I set bast's mev windows shown to true?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: even with mev reset - the settings for mev windows shown is false
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mev set showwindows true? I don't know. I forget.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: nvm, i fixed it with his tabbar plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: is there an easy way to dump all my inventory item id's and levels into a text file so i can build some gear alias's out of them?  or just id each one .. copy paste .. burn a day.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: like invdata? (or invdata ansi)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: i think copy and paste is the only way :/
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: something must be stealing my invdata .. i get no response from the command.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: but I could be wrong
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Category 6 Stormblades goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you have an inv or eq manager plugin the output might be squelched
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: got the output .. whew what a mess .. copy paste might be my technotarded way to go.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: "invdata ansi" is a little easier to deal with if you're copying/pasting
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: I could probably write a script that id's all items in inventory and puts all the #'s into a table if I tried hard enough
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: im suprised there isnt a plugin / script all done allready to make this easy .. how many times do people change gear in this mud .. at least 4x a mort.  
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: there is
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I never change gear
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: bast's inv manager
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded points excitedly at The Jerk Fiendish!
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i tried one of them .. it doesnt seem to work .
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I bought some sets, set up triggers to switch eq around, and decided I just wouldn't worry about upgrading low level stuff :p
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: did you try bast's eqdb ?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: tech it seemed clunky and spammy .. maybe i should fiddle around with the options . 
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: also try the minwin_eq
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: you can click on each item for a list of options in the eq window
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a plugin called eqsets that does sets, it works ok, but inventory management in general is a PITA
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: including copying the i.d to clipboard
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at Bast.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yah . its a burden in general .  it would be awesome if i could jsut equip all lvl 1
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: how does eqsets work bast?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: I just insatlled it but eqsets + eqSets returns nothing
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "eqs"
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: ty
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: btw, the "plugins" command will list all installed plugins and if they are mine, will list the command to access them
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: handy, ty
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: does the eqsets plugin automatically equip at set level or you have to use the equip set command?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: what's the wearloc for wielded, says wielded is not a valid wearloc
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: try wield
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: i did :p
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Type 'wearable' to find all the slot names.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's wielded, though.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: Bast?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Is the item you're trying to put in wielded slot actually a weapon? Double-check it to make sure.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: im trying to add a lvl 80 dagger to my 80 set as wielded wearloc for basts eqsets
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: having trouble
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't know what to tell you then. Only times that would show up is if you're trying to wear it on a spot that's not acceptable for it, or invalid wear flag, I think. Been a while since I used it.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: hmm got it to work
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: wasnt working before
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: im looking at a pile of masaki plugins .. is there a place where they are all listed .. im digging throug gaardian notes finding them.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: looks like there is one that will manage gear sets also.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Masaki EQualizer? you can get it from the link in BluMalice's finger
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: OOOOOOO YAHHHHHHHHHH a whole gold mine !
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Blu even made a plugin to play chess in Aard with a miniwindow and everything. dude is nuts.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: what! thats awesome lol.  this is like christmas.  
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: this stuff should have blinking lights on the main page .. 
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although bast's eq stuff is better...
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: well i guess im a troll .. what im wanting to find . probably end up making it msyelf somehow.  maybe ill just pay for someone else . i want to wear a set of stuff .. do some werd command like .. savegearset (insertnamehere) and it does magic and remembers when i type weargearset (insertnamehere)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, both bast and blumalice do that already
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: www.dropbox.com/s/h2zbq249fp7ctbg/Masaki%20EQualizer.rar?dl=0
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: masaki EQualizer
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: or
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: for the non .rar
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: tech www.dropbox.com/s/2ag55dy9sgr6luo/Masaki_EQualizer.xml?dl=0
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much cleaner to simply give his goo.gl URL :P
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: even with a plugin that has a beautiful setup, entering all that information takes time
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so the masaki one still takes a bunch of setup time?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there's no way to skip the setup time regardless of what solution you use
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: there are no plugins to simply save the set i have equipped.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not much time, no
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can save the set you have equipped iirc
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: meq save
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yah . good . thats how lazy i am . im so lazy .. i dont even want graphics in my game. 
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Masrok: it's on my todo list, but my todo list hasn't been getting much love lately
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: your stuff is great bast.  you plugin / script guys do a lot of work for the rest of us.  when i win the lottery im gonna remember you guys.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: I write lots of plugins too! Remember me.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: lol.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, shouldn't take long with "eqdata" available...the gear's already in eqdb and eqsets already does named sets
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Even if they're all for CMUD and not very portable for sharing.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Robbo build an 8ball script that conveniently lets me talk to everyone on his flist.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: builT
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you write packages ;-)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: robbo: do you have them in the online repository that you can search from the cmud toolbar?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Well, that presumes I keep all the variables happy and seperate from package to package.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Nah, I've never gone through and packaged my stuff up for that.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: rewarding the scripters is easy .. get abelinc's logs from his website .. do a few searches .. bam .. all the worthy people appear by magic.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Plus not a whole lot of CMUD users clamoring for plugins.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: CMUD users are too busy shaking their canes at MUSH users
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BluMalice Tech: Yello o.o
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, there's br more if there were more known packages
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Robbo asks: [Am I shaking my cane?] Magic 8-ball Response: [Most likely]
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud users shouldn't shake canes at anyone, it's the newest client :P
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's the oldest tho, so I shake at all y'all :P
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: If only it wasn't abandonware.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maintainer's still pretty active, and it supports GMCP unlike zmud ;-)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: ??
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: CMUD's been officially abandoned for several years now.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you meant cmud, thought you meant mine/tinyfugue
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, zugg drops everything :P
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Still happy to charge for new licenses, though.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh nice,you can still actually buy it?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: He's still happy to charge for Zmud licenses, and zmud's been dead for 10+ years.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Yeah, you can, though not the wisest investment.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, I didn't think you could buy zmud once c came out, interesting
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's telling that there's 1.5x the zmud users on as cmud users ;-)
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: wowie wowie .. masaki EQualizer rockssssssssss.  exactly what my lack of mental power wanted to see.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: pictures with buttons.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, gammon's got a pretty neat customizable button bar
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: well just for saving gear . tho ive seen the clicky button bar . its nice .
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica sentences Masrok to 6 weeks of tinyfugue
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yah . i play games for fun not for working.  its my guess people that use that end up making there own scripts for most things.  
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: [a-z][0-9] is all you need, maybe some punctuation thingees
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: JK, Gammon and Fiendish revolutionized this game
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: who's jk?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: J.K. Rowling!
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne buries his face in his paw and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Arnica meant "just kidding"...
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: OIC
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: rolf
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Out In Character?! :P
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Onomatopoeia Is Contagious
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: oinky what now?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Category 6 Stormblades turns toward Oak Tender Arnica and bleats, chewing on the corner of his shirt.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: hey, it sec changed
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: sex changed
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Not that corner
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of tinyfuguers don't make their own scripts, there's lots of scripts available
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: So according to the gammon api pages db:exec should not be broken out of because it will lock the db. I currently do, becuase I didn't read that part before when I made a script, so can someone explain what this is actually doing? My script seems to work just fine
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: you just tore a hole into the time space continuum
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: now were all gonna die .. thanks.
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Anyone with anything actually helpful?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: like a puppy monkey baby?
T3/r7/2016-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ill find you pictures of kittens.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Sonet: always let db:nrows finish
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=11423
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: is there a lighter version of ubuntu, that isnt 1 gig?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: anyone get an issue with text wrapping to less than the outputwindow size whenever the mushclient window is minimized?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Fiendish are you on?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Is there any way to speed up these little micro freezes? Like when you kill a mob, complete a quest, etc. Presuming it's has something to do with writing to the db.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Should prolly mention that's using the aardwolf client + bast plugins.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont think its db, mud is doing it deliberately
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Oh they're mud timings? Somehow it feels exactly like 'lag' to me. Anyway thks.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for example, if you buy the "hunt wish" you will notice using hunt is considerably faster
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: same with the spellup wish
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I was more triggered by things like killing a mob, and why the last round seems to always take 0.5 sec extra to process.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do you reset s&d's window position again?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: try not using a spell/skill on the last round
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: or just use kill without anything else, i find its much faster
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: the little freeze after kill is a leftover from skill use
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: on a skill use it freezes input for 3 or so seconds
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: depending on the skill it is longer or shorter, meaning area attack or normal attack or spellup, hunt, etc
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Thanks for explaining that, I can see how it's not actual 'lag'
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there an easy and reliable way to detect that mob is dead ?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: where it 
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: like a quest or cp mob? or in general?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wrong question, I fight mob, then I want to detect I (or other party member) have killed it
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ?  oh for a plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: as opposed to?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, for plugins, so I get input from mud (lines/gmcp info) and want to detect that "a horror" was removed from room
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean because it has died (most cases) or wandered out of room 
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i suppose one way would be to collect a list of the regular expressions for mobdeath... that would be a real hassle
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that will be actually really slow if I want to process all lines
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's no mob info in any gmcp (except what you are fighting)
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean one thing is detect that mob is dead and another to get its name
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so sure I can process messages like "A vampire is DEAD!" , but as there are tens or maybe even over 100 different messages, then it will be slow
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: you could look at what masaki mob counter looks at for death
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ylatd0zau6rlof/AACQMpNBzbQPUvIQtzij5DyLa/Masaki_Mob_Counter_Blacksmiths.xml?dl=0
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: he made 2 versions .. one for blacksmiths .. and the other for anything else.  
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: You want to know when combat has stopped, or when an individual mob has died?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I would think the xp message would work for the latter.  gmcp (and statmon, I believe) work for the former
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when an individual mob was removed from room
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, xp seems to be fine, just need to store and process one of previous lines
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: char.status contains the mob name
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: looks like you could just add an exp trigger to masaki mob counter to have something good 
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but only that one you fight
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but I want to know what mob I can attack - so I need to remove all mobs that are dead
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: if you do it off of experience you may run in to a case where you get exp and you are not fighting
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whether killed by me, group or other group
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: look at the mob tracker . it just tracks all mobs in a room your fighting.  and lists them
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: don't think there's any viable way without either triggering on every single death message or requesting the list (via scan/study/con/etc.)
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that Masaki sends glance to check for mobs
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: was it ever posted on ideas forum to change the ways {invdata} works for static items? so if I carry 200 potions I will just see 1 line instead of 200
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: it won't work since every item has unique id, and invdata shows one line per id
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i thought pots were changed to share only 1 id
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: last year .. maybe longer ago.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, static pots still have different ids
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: something tells me invdata will not be changed to accommodate potions
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i dont know what i read then . i remember something like that probably 18 months ago patch notes.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you are probably thinking about health potions and their heal messages being summed up?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you've read about static flag, that introduced immutable objects, IIRC you have just single object and multiple links (ids) to it or something like that
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yes your right .. static flag stuff
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Why oh Why do online web catalogs animate a page turning? Just display the next page!
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Design vs Functionality dilemmma. Both fields have to justify their jobs.  
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: I'm with you though.  No need for the page turning.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: also, some people like to pretend that our high tech is really low tech.  those people are idiots 
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: I look at heavy graphics/design much like advertising.  If you have to sell me on it, I don't need it.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: just use the overhead you spent on all that with better load times
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: part of the conspiracy to persuade websurfers to upgrade to faster hardware, faster access, pay for more bandwidth per month. (kaching$)
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I would think it would require more bandwidth for Borg Warner as well, you'd think they'd want quick load times and page turns
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: They don't actually have any bandwidth limitations
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: who knew, those web design degrees really were mind control devices, to turn every web designer into an unwitting pawn of dell/TWC!  the humanity!
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: the more megabytes each website visit burns, the more those mobile smartphones cost to use -- and stick in page turn delays, even more kaching$ 
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: can someone point me a help file/web site to set a mini-window to track some variables?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: probably better if you just tell what you want to do
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, it's not.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The intent was already stated.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And Malark wants to read for himself what to do.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Malark: Just google Mushclient miniwindows so you can fully learn how to manipulate them. :)
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Of course, if you have any questions, feel free to come back here and ask.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: i'll try. could only find a general help.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: what kind of things are you looking to track . there are some nice plugins to examine https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ylatd0zau6rlof/AACQMpNBzbQPUvIQtzij5DyLa/Masaki_Mob_Counter_Blacksmiths.xml?dl=0
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's a full tutorial on Mushclient miniwindows. Let me see if I can pull up the link.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you already know how to create the minwindows, writing text is simple enough with WindowText function.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: maybe he wants to track his own lil' variables?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/mushclient/mw_intro.htm -- that will help get you started.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: ok thank you. actually a plugin uses status bar to show its variables. but there is tick time in the status all the time.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Thank you. I was about to look into that myself.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can use the InfoBar if you want something there.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: the tick timer is a plugin i believe
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: View -> InfoBar, then you can add things to it.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For example: https://db.tt/noudayom -- that's my InfoBar.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so your just looking to track the hp / hpmax in a room with negavite mv/mvmax sounds easy ?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: is it possible to sync your mapper database?
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: between two coimputers
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's just a file (aard
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you can copy it wherever you want
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: you are just a helpful person tonight!
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: jut make sure you only mess with it with your mushclient closed
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: passing on what others have done for me
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: cheers!  I'll brb when I get off of my laptop
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and fiendish is the mapper jesus btw.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so thank him for the mapper when you get the chance
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess you can thank me for breathing too while we're here.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: thanks for breathing!
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish giggles.
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: We're not worthy, we're not...wait, I don't use mush
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: well gee, Fiendish ... if you weren't breathing, you wouldn't be worth much programming-wise ;o)
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you kidding? think about how much more efficient I'd be if I didn't need oxygen
T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: heh :o)
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: So..  I'm not sure I understand how to use Bast spellup plugin.  It doesn't seem to keep my spells up, do I need to manually add each one or something before it will?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can add them en masse with iirc bsp sadd all
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: you need to add which spells you want
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can go to http://abelinc.me/bastdocs, click to expand "Bast's plugins" on the left, then click on "bast_spellup" to see the docs page on the spellup plugin :-) (it's using the wayback machine because the way google migrated the archived wiki pages sucks)
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: there is a help wiki on bast page too i guess. at least i've use it a few times:)
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that's what my thing goes to, but to a version of it before its navigation was totally borked by google
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SsuperBosS Tech: What is the best windows app to write mp4 and avi videos onto DvDs with the intention to watch them on a dvd player for TV?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh man. I haven't burned a dvd in so long
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: why not use a usb stick? tv doesnt support usb?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I seem to recall using Nero at the time?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nero Burning Rom, I remember worked pretty well
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: I like CDBurnerXP. Nice and light
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: nero will burn the files but i doubt the dvd will play them
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: wont it be a data disk, not a dvd?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a lot of dvd players can play MP4 files
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: Yes Zetkax
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: nero got so hugely bloated at some point
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose it depends on whether you need to convert that to the actual video dvd format, which I think uses MPEG2 and maybe separate files for audio?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SsuperBosS Tech: Zetkax I wanna store and collect DvDs full of my downloaded series-movies-cartoons etc for permanent storage. I got myself a DvD storage rack allready.    Nero seems mainstream, I will try it also check out CDBurnerXP.    I will not need to convert it since the dvd player is mp4 compatible.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also doesn't windows have disc burning built in these days?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SsuperBosS nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SsuperBosS Tech: Thanks all.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think like, maybe since at least vista
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe even XP
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: fiendish have you filled your 25 slots up yet? :p
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: each to their own but i would rip those dvds using handbrake and store them on a big hdd, like a 2TB
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SsuperBosS Tech: Yip Fiendish it does have it, but i find it abit thin for options regarding burning.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: sounds like you are going the opposite way :)
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SsuperBosS Tech: Nod Zetkax, I want a external HD for xmas. 
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: whats a possible solution to plugins that wont install and send error codes?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: copy paste the error codes?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that depends 100% on the error
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: sec its a long code
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's probably a good idea to use something like pastebin for readability (posting in tech might make it harder to read) and give us the link
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morgase nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not a good idea? :p
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why did we raise children to say "I got error, what do now?" instead of reading what the error says
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: i read the error and tried multiple things including restarting the client, unfortunately i am not a techincally minded person and have gotten stuck
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean, ok, but at least tell _us_ what the error says
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: post it in a note if you need to. or you can email it to me if that's easier
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: maybe its not your error fiendish!
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i wanna see it too :)
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: http://pastebin.com/wiS6VGri
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: thats what happens when snd is attempted
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that looks like you've taken one of my plugins and moved it to a non-aardwolf installation of mushclient
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: aard gmp mapper
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: am I correct?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morgase gets a blank look on her face.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: i didnt make it
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: where do i get the original?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: I guess not installing into program files might help
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok one step at a time. Kippe is correct. Installing the aardwolf mushclient package into Program Files is actually known to be problematic on any computer after I think Vista(?) unless you explicitly disable UAC protections
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so the first step is should be to put your MUSHclient folder somewhere else
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: like the desktop?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: desktop, my documents, C:\, whatever. really anything other than System or Program Files I think?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kippe nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the second piece of information that may (or may not) be relevant is that the GMCP mapper is more than just one file. If the aardmapper.lua file is in fact missing, then the plugin won't work
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you might also verify that the file is not missing. it should be MUSHclient/lua/aardmapper.lua
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: the file is there i dont understand why it claims to be missing
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if the file is missing, then my original comment stands. if it is not missing, then Kippe has nailed it.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Windows is "protecting" you
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: so this whole problem could be its in the wrong place
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well "wrong" is subjective, right? let's say incompatible
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: and i spent an hour checking everything repeatedly for nothing?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let me see if I can find some background information for you...
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: that would be so great thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so here's a basic report from someone on Windows 8 about weird problems when they put it in Program Files: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=11845
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morgase buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: i should have thought of this
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: here are some documents about a feature called "UAC virtualization" http://www.ni.com/white-paper/5538/fr/#toc4  and  https://decibel.ni.com/content/groups/windows-7/blog/2009/10/02/uac-virtualization-and-how-it-affects-your-installers
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh sorry. you probably want www.ni.com/white-paper/5538/en/#toc4 
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless you speak french
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: nope i do speak afrikaans but that doesnt help
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that doesn't even help for reading german
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: it doesnt
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: I think you can understand the german. Afrikaans looks a lot like dutch, which in turn looks a lot like german
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: sorta catch a bit of dutch
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: thanks guys it all works now
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yay
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: what did the trick?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: sorry, what made it work?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's sort of true, but I don't have confidence to learn to drive again without a big empty parking lot. and I'd be stuck at the airport for like an hour before I could even get on the road
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: moving it out of programs
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: it seems that the programms werent allowing even the mapper to run properly, but its fixed now thanks so much guys
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: next I want to try and convince BluMalice to create a Go plugin for MUSH just to see if he's able to do it.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: programming captures shouldn't be very hard
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know much about Go scoring otherwise, but surely it has a basic logic to it
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you can build an entire 2 player go game in a couple hundred lines of code in most languages I think, AI's to play one of the two players are considerably more difficult to program
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I actually knew a professor who used programing a go game as a semester project for one of his programing classes.
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd be surprised if it took a hundred lines, tbh
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing moves, the board is rectangular, pieces are simple
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no event loop
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess you have to check for connected rings? but other than that you're just placing pieces
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: looking for a capture seems like literally the only logic
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sonet?
T3/r7/2016-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how much does wait() wait when i type just 'wait()' without a number?
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: before I start trying to make this, anyone ever find or make a plugin or whatever that can where every damn number of a keyword?  lol
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you mean a hunt trick plugin? there are a few out there
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I use one made by Bast
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: huh, never used his for trick, guess it works
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: Does Bast ht work without hunt skill? I was hoping not to have to dig into Winkle's to fix that
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry, never used it
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: Ok, so it seems like winkle's ht only needed one word to be changed to work with the current message you get when you don't have the hunt skill. Took less effort to fix than to mention
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oh yeah, you fix one word and it works
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yup -> two letters
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's a diy thing
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: raded i've been trying to hook lakf up with a working qq s&d but no luck. errors everywhere and he's not tech savvy
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: mine works like a charm
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's a frankenstein though (mine). got an old s&d, replaced some date_added dependant functions and mine works perfectly
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well he needs to stop breaking it
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: raded does masaki not have a qq enabled "clan" s&d?
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boseefus Tech: anyone know why the gq windows etc in mushclient don't update after the first one?
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: I want to be useful in a datacenter environment. Where should I start my studies? :D
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: iono. sql?
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: gotta know sql...
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: https://www.codecademy.com/ is neat and free if you want low commitment
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RentAnImm Korridel Tech: Sql, understanding of relational databases, etc.
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: decide which part of the datacenter you want to be involved with .. hardware vs os/virtualization vs infrastructure vs application
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I want to be the guy in the suit yelling at IT to make my laptop boot faster
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: then you sure go for an mba
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: which is what I did and I still landed in an IT grunt job :p
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: should* :)
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Hmm. I already use SQL all day. I was hoping for an answer like 'Red Hat cert' or something along those lines. :P
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: OK I am an old fart with the long view. You should get the database experience as early as you can. It is a good lever to seeing the big picture. If you can, get into the programming/database interface area what was like sql plus and the like.
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: try targetting a specific area you want to support.. OS support (e.g. redhat certs) will be one person .. SAN administration is probably another person .. ESX/virtualization might be another person or might be shared .. DBAs will be totally separate .. desktop support is separate
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: haha the opposite viewpoint but valid
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and, unless you're already in a career that can be advanced by getting a MBA...don't get a MBA.
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i would agree that sql and unix are good to know in general if you're undecided
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Meaningless BS for Accountants
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: learn at least one scripting language.. programming language is less critical in practice, but knowing how to will give you skills needed in general
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Hmmm. I guess I'm just looking for something different. I work with a very old non-normalized DB2 database often for work, but I also dabble a little in layer 2 network configurations (I'm in telecom). Any suggestions where I wouldn't have to work 14 hour days to keep up with all the work? :)
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: not IT! ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Which is why Database is good. any SQL interaction requires a general =scripting that is transferrable
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alzar sniffs sadly at the way Mye is treating him.
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Well, good to know others suffer my fate, then.
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Okay so my take on this conversation is that I should stop being a pleb and finish studying SQL. Learn Redhat and pick up some python. Yeah, sound good?
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: sounds good .. are you interested in the networking side? i know there are some certs there you can study for, but been a long time since i've looked into any of that
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: The networking side is interesting, but I feel like it's harder. I might be too dumb. :P
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Are the comptia certs even worth it these days? Also, what about microsoft certs?
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: A decent project requiring  both C# or ++ and interaction with an advanced database calls, and with your background leveraging the network fabric woulc be ideal
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: any big aero company needs yo
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alzar nods at Oak Tender Arnica.
T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone know with after effects if I can set a stroke with a "transparent color" to just give an effect that the item behind it is a bit different?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slasher Phy Tech: have they made a mapper for blowtorch yet?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: i use blowto4ch, is that the best option
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: I tried using blowtorch, it just crashed every time I opened it within a few seconds
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: aardmush ftw
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slasher Phy Tech: i play on tablet :(
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion comforts Slasher Phy.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: would anyone like to see my plugins publically available again?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: sure Lunk I don't use plugins atm  
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I know ur name from somewhere tho  
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: are you on MUSH tzad? btw - stormblades here
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I am  
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: she's on mushrooms
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: oh..
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: but I don't believe you :)
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I'm on many things  :) 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: Diazepam is nice
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: Valiumn is for drones 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: 10 mg of that - you are floating :)
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: not sure about the chann rules here 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I don't take illegal drugs, only legal drugs in an illegal manner - can't beat prescription strength shit
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: oh ya
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: excuse my cursing
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: anyway
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: if people want I can post my plugins again
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I get a jab every  once in a while  .. is my only  meds .. ther rest is ethanol 3 days a week 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: put em in ur fing
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: if you took a look in my cupboard you would be likw wtf is that? can I have some??
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lunk throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I grew outta that stage Lunk , yu will too 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I must move onto the subject in question
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: anyone else apart from tzad want an aqutoquaffer plugin that feeds from GMCP for hp/mana/moves with user defined percentages of max??
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: tbh I'm not interested in experimental plugins  , I dun use  SnD atm but I have in the past  
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: Lunk thans but no thatnks 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: hrmph
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I am not as good as Bast/WinkleWinkle/BlueMalice but my plugins are a dream for any newbs who don't know Lua/basics about aliases triggers and variables
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: on a related subject  tho ..  Victoria has had a wet and warm winter so far so the shrooms are out .. 12 ppl admited so far .. noobs  :P
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: carefull...
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: Lunk I'll pass  .. I like being   auto free atm   :)
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: furry muff
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: erm i mean fair enough :)
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I can't trip  .. my one drug regret is I never tried mescaline before I got sick  
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: no comment.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't sass Rumour Tech: this is not channel appropriate
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: what Rumour said.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: thankyou  , I was not aware of the chann perameters 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: o.k so I guess my plugins go rejected, at least I can get some use out of them!
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: put it in your desc
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I don't have them public atm
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: agree .. put it in desc 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I removed my email associated with github in my finger and deleted my github account
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: came to ask if people wanted them
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: very little intrest so I won't bother
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: kind of a snap decision, isn't it?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: it takes an effort and a lot of free time to check out the techy stuff. if its in your desc then chances are that people will check it out in time. when its comfy and chill
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: ur "poerty "  is not a great start if you are considering branding  
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: im pro sis
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: i built a device i thought people would want but first day sales were poor so i pulled my product and blew the factory up just because.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: reminds me of terminator 2
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: phosphoric acid is a fickle beast Cit  :P
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: here comes Rumour again..
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: if it's true cit which i seriously doubt then you did the right thing, but I doubt it.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: emergency data destruction? forget DBAN - power on that drive and power-magnet the ting
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: pro-tip
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: ten seconds in approx. 3 * 3 second swipes back and forth...
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: data will be so corrupt it will look like an aliens bum hole.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: noob tips ..  at the stage where they are breaking down ur door that want you  ,, they already have the data.Tor and sim was cracked over a year ago and wardriving  they got ur data too .. 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: erm yeah, noob tip is right
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: TOR == noob
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: interesting bill passing atm on the impounding of  PC suspected in  illegal activity in the US .. I think they have till Dec to pass it   
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: they got busted.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: means they have been doing it a while and now it's no longer  a suprise they are brining it into the public to get the rest  discourage  etc 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I mean there is illegal activity on the internet that goes un-noticed by law enforcement and the you crank it up once and you have terrorism and organised crime, crank it up again and you have the best hackers in the world that will never get busted
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: make the subject of a great novel 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: (In the movie announcer guys voice)And it began, BIG data corruption and elite hackers across the globe running wild with the worlds finances. Is there anyone who can stand up to them? One man.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: fight club ? 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: it's already been written and I suggest you take at least a peek - the trilogy "the girl with the dragon tattoo / the girl that played with fire / the girl that kicked the hornets nest)
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: eww
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I've read em .. umm .. umm 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I tried to read those but couldn't get past the first rape scene, lost interest
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: if you produce enough fire on the internet you get burned IRL from your own flames but in another dimension.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: read satre desade the story of O .. I have a strong stomsch 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: OK a lil away from the tech but leads back to it  ..  boots on the ground and the media .. ISIS atm but  what ever is next  .. hackers  are doing a great job there 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lunk goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: lets kill the thread by moving it  
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: anything that involves sadistic death for whatver religious/anarchitic reasons is wrong and evil.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: enter the tobacco lobby 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I read recently how ISIS screwed money out of over 2000 elderly disbaled u.k residents amounting to hundreds of thousands of USD, most of them died peniless, broken and miserable.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: and where is that money going? more death.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: move it on .. deb chan
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: if ISIS plot on my town? it will be the end of us all.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't sass Rumour Tech: this is not channel appropriate, please move conversation.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: ugggh
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I moved it to deb .. 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I like the cool technological illumination/glow/glyphs found in modern mmo's :)
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: Forever...
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I have an ide for LCD tattoos that react to nerve impulses  .. 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: biological tattoo technology, nice.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: wouldn't want to go to a poker table IRL with one visible though
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: thats My idea !!  dun steal it !
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: so make it a reality!
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: my ppl are not tech ppl 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: so work for however long it takes to move to a high tec/tech development city :)
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: if  it's your dream, do it! it's a very good idea...
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I have trouble not shooting myself in the morning  .. let alone  developing a new tech
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: and  I'll not post on this chann again now  
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do i find out (and specify) output window width/height?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: I can be found on curse chann 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if it's possible to be done without mouse dragging
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: not going there
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: ur loss 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: not sure lobi
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: if you use MUSH you could take a look in "output" under "appearance" in the world config, other than that, I can't help you
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: anyone else sign up for the IBM cloud quantium crash course?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It lets you send in scores to run on a real quantum computer
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: minecraft scores?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valarr Tech: does anyone play on their Iphone? 
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: nothing like virus scan thursdays to slow you down
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anybody got any clue how to dump GMCP data most easily on the CLIENT side?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use Mush - then use gmcpdebug
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: gmcpdebug 1
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: gmcpdebug 1
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: gmcpdebug 2 is more verbose
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So it's a client side feature ? Now I made an ass out of myself. Thanks!
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: the GMCP_handler plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: aard_GMCP_handler.xml
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yup, works charmfully. I'm indebted.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: remind me: how do you reload a plugin from the command bar in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: no? rats, could swear there was a way :(
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: \\\ReloadPlugin(plugin_id)  ?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: sorry, functionality I was remembering was provided by a Bast package. figured it out.
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fancy Aurelia Tech: hi, im lazy. i also use bast's plugins. whenever i request a cp, i have to click on the CP thing in the little bar/list of show window/hide window/quest time/cp #. i dont feel like doing that every time. is there a way to make the cp window automatically show mobs rather than have to click on the CP:# every time i request one?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i didn't quite get it
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: are you talking about s&d?
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fancy Aurelia Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fancy Aurelia Tech: theyre bast's plugins
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: this is odd.. i've installed a new graphics cards and various applications seem to have lost the ability to go into fullscreen mode
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: anyone here have a strong opinion on computer monitors?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: 2 is better than 1
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: brand?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Samsung
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Being sued by Apple is an indication of greatness!
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: sueing apple is greatness too
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, this one seems fine? http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS24D300HS/ZA
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Yeah looks good, highly rated. I think we picked up some similar models at work lately
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I'd read reviews on multiple sites before buying, even companies that mostly make great stuff might have some duds
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: A quick search showed that that one is likely great.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Is Steam generally overpriced on stuff?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: games are overpriced in general these days. :)
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Not this one
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: They have one for 49.99 that is sold for alot less elsewhere - but it's a "game of the year" edition rather than the original perhaps
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I'll wait a few more years then buy it whne it's cheaper as per my usual methods haha
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: whats the game?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: middle earth: shadow of mordor
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's an awesome game
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Yeah, I watched vids of it and did some reading, seems great.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: oh nice.  i can remember the one i played on xbox but the goblins / orcs taunted you all the time .. it was one of the best gaming experiences i ever had.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I don't mind being behind, I am still playing oblivion lol
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: cant!
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i downloaded a copy then bought it after i liked it
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i always end up buying games i like
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: even if i won't even play them
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: I quit games after getting sick of eq progression yet again
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: that one big guild is always cheating, grrrr
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: then eq2 pvp just died before eq progression was started again
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if there was a mmo like aardwolf i would probably never leave.  
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: kickstarter project .. :aardwolf 3d.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: yeah this is fun...I'm mostly here to have a reason to write code, though I've had some problems getting started on mush
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: last year I wrote stuff for mudlet
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: The alternative to coding for games would be to write a program to hack surveillance cameras...not sure if I'd end up making money or getting into trouble
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: so many backdoors on that gear lol...o m g
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Someone with a telnet client and the presence of mind to look up stuff on youtube can hack many of the DVRs out there
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol I barely play anymore I just write code and talk to people
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Yeah programming is great.  I"m a network admin right now, so far I've written like 5 lines of code at work
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: and that's it :/
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: this will happen
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: There may come a time when I do some powershell scripting, that could be cool
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Lua is a fairly easy language to pick up and it works best with mush
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Yeah I did lua on mudlet, easy
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: But how many lines have you copied?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: me?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Wrote all
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: JK
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: I got a teensy recently, but have yet to plug it in
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: One was just to set this silly environment variable for some legacy software for an image
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: BTW: AutoIT is interesting........the other thing I did was use autoit to send ALT-P to any dialog named "Print" that opens :P
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Check it out sometime, AutoIT is incredibly powerful, probably great for writing malware if one was inclined to do so hahaha
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shake your Bootysattva Tech: Another coding idea is to write some fake but realistic looking stuff for the TV and movie industry
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neryx Tech: On the phone client for Aardwolf, I keep running into a weird problem.  When I send a command to the MUD, it echoes locally, which is fine.  But while I'm typing it in, I can't see what I'm typing until I hit space or enter.  Sound familiar to anyone?  Or is it maybe just my phone?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica hangs up on Neryx
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neryx thanks Oak Tender Arnica heartily.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica grins'
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neryx Tech: I knew the answer was simple!
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: answerer
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: I have seen this before... it seems to me it was a problem with the particular Android keyboard I was using.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: I switched keyboard types or settings, and it fixed it.  Let me check and see if I can find the solution.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: spilt rum on it, didja
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neryx Tech: Thanks, Robbo, I can try that, and I wondered if maybe it was the device input, rather than the app.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: Yeah, seems to me it may have been a problem with auto-completion.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiedus Tech: i need password reset for fisban sent to reg email
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So write a note to the Imms.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Tech isn't going to send your password. Only the Imms will, and you have to request it through a personal note to the Imms.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiedus Tech: whos a imms that is on today?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: just send it to "imm" on personal board it goes to them all.  Help password has teh procedure.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: From 'help password' -- To have a password reset, Post a note to 'imm' on the Personal board (see 'help note' and 'help board'), and it will be taken care of as soon as an Immortal is available.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tiedus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i failed to find documentation for string.match() function
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: do you mean string.find?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have Windows configured to be able to view the helps within MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial toward the bottum
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's an odd way of spelling bottom.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: sorry wife was bitching and child was crawling on me
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: living the dream
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Excuses. :p
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: nah i mean string.match()
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better than child bitching and wife crawling on you...
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did you google string.match Lua?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: you sure about that biker?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i did heh
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: gives me results for gsub, find etc but not string.match
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I found the site I sent you to with a simple google search of "lua string.match"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: keep using ctrl-f on "match" its after gmatch
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lobi: go to help/index, click find, type string, and scroll down to string.match in the bottom box
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's on that exact site Sonet gave you.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to see the docs within MUSHclient
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah but it doesn't have the answer i need
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what are the two results that match returns? one is the match i assume. and the other?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you haven't asked a question yet, other than "can't find the docs"...so it DOES have the answer you asked for...
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It doesn't?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: > = string.match("I have 2 questions for you.", "%d+ %a+") --> 2 questions
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: what if that thing I just said :D
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: string.match(string, pattern, [index])
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: gmcp handler:
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: message, params = string.match (data, "([%a.]+)%s+(.*)")
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what's going to be stored in message, and what's going into params?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: thats a regex question not a string.match question
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: oh nvm then 
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The first set of () would go into message, and the second set of () goes to params.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: that is a lua question on instantiation(sp?)
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: AHH
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem P thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Parameters are entered in as they are encountered in the matching pattern.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well i was looking for that info. where does it say that each set of ()'s gets assigned to a variable?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So one, two, three = string.match("3 2 1", "(%d) (%d) (%d)") would store 3 as one, 2 as two, and 1 as three.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and where does it say that string.match() can result such multiple values
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: https://www.lua.org/pil/5.1.html this is the page you need
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer A macabre Sonet on and wish him good luck!
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, one, two, three, four = string.match("1 2 3 4", "(%d) ((%d) (%d)) (%d)") would store 1 in one, 2 3 in two, 2 in three, and 3 in four, and the last group would never be stored. :p
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is [^%[{] a charset that matches everything that's not [ or {?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I believe so. :p
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why are you not using json libraries?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i wanted to undersand it. :p
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ye who understands all counts of regex is quite a person
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica bows
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol, maybe you can help me out with one I have been having trouble with then ;p
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I first started playing this game to understand telnet, and it quickly turned into learning regex
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what's the problem sonet?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean if you're serious heh
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I suck at the game, but perhaps I can help you here
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: been trying to make a trigger off of the where <mob> output. I collect a lot of garbage if my spells are firing or things are currently going on
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am using ^(?P<mob>[^0-9]){30,30} (?P<room>.+)$ currently
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it has the chance of getting way to inaccurate information though
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: no way out unless you turn the trigger on just to get the output then turn it back off
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: just as a trigger on worl output?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: its part of a plugin, but it is a standard trigger more or less
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i've studied the cast. i don't think you can solve that problem if you want to leave the trigger always on
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: case* not cast
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I don't
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I only have it on when I type where <mob> then it shuts itself off
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: but in that time it still can get a lot of useless stuff if the spellup script is running or moving to much
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh so you're collecting stuff that happens to sneak in between your typing of "where" and its output?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well definitely not a regex solution. your exp is fine
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you'll need to somehow tell the other stuff not to happen while you're "where"ing
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Interesting. So you type <mob> which enables a trigger, and the script the trigger calls disables the trigger? A one shot?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: that is not really possible, seeing as spells can wear off at that time also
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: where <mob>
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: sorry my wife is trying to talk to me also
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Put her on the line with me
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol, she walked out of the room
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: so any ideas?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well while i'm affraid i can't think of anything right now i'll eventually face that problem myself, though. but i'm certain that because of the very nature of "where" output, any regex to catch it will likely catch other stuff too
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Seems like you are on the right track, what is the current issue?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: do all rooms not invariably start with a highcase letter?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I don't think so
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: have you ever found a room whose name started with a lower case letter?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I think I have
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I can check the db file
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: because if they all start with a high case letter, then the problem might be solved for 99% of the cases
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: for debug include "tell imm" on every problem line. hahahhaha
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean, there's "A corridor in the middle of nowhere" (just an example), but I don't think you can get "a corridor ..." as a room name
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: The cool version of xeno does not want to talk to you!
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: didn't work Arny
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Funny
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if you adjust your regexp to require a high case letter for the first character, i don't think you're going to have problems any longer
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: first character of room name i mean
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry.. late to the party.. but what are we trying to do?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mobname part of the pattern is wrong, btw
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: why is the mobname part wrong?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because your criteria is not digit...that is wrong
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: are there mobs with digits?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh Sonet.. lemme send you my regex
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I do that exact thing
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you do it wrong as well :P
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mine is different
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I thought they had octets
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: one still needs to account for oz mobs though :p flying stuff has ! and ? in their names
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: there are mobs with digits by the way
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Tufke.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ^([A-Za-z\s0-9\'\,\.\-\?!:\(\)]+)(\s{2,})([A-Za-z0-9\s\'\,\.\-\?!:\(\)]+)$
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is mine
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why it's wrong...your only "given" isn't a given
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: mine accounts for the ?! mobs
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and I where change to turn this trigger on, then it turns itself off after
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: id just go ahead and create a criteria with high/low letters, space, single/double quotes and interrogation and exclamaton marks though
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I only catch the one line
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: This is where I failed philosphy, I postulated no givens.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lobi that still leaves off hyphens, numbers, etc.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ^where (.*?)$ is my alias and it fires a script: function where_alias(name, line, wildcards) EnableTrigger("whereLocation", true) Send("where " .. wildcards[1]) end
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah well put that too heh
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: which turns that above trigger on
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the trigger turns itself off when it fires
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: just had an idea
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that might reduce noise on your where trigger sonet
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mine works pretty well except in one edge case.. where the mob name is really long and it doesn't have enough space between it and the room name
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Advanced circuit theory said that gave me a step function.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: you could still get a line like "You no longer feel so intelligent" in your Yajan
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how so?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should only be accounting for one space between the mobname and the roomname
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: this isn't for spells
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's for finding mobs right?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but the MUD may give you the spell's output
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I know it isn't for spells, but that is what keeps sneaking in on my trigger
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you type "where foo"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: won't catch it because there's not a 2 space block anyway
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Non-linear equations said a step function was a discontinuity
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have no way to guarantee that the line from the MUD after you type "where foo" is the where output
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if the mud decided to send "Here's a line with too much  space" then yeah maybe
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the core of sonet's issue (other than not being able to where things like "where baby" in gallows ;-)
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: exactly, my last where had a tech message come in before the mob/room
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but it doesn't
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Magna is correct, this is the issue I am facing
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Physics said the Big Bang was a discontinuity
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I can tell you it works in 99% of the cases for me, and nothing triggers it but whering mobs..
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: sonet i think i got you covered
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm so fucking awesome
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: mine also works about 90% of the time, but those sneaky other things cause issues
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I can give you examples of other things triggering it without all that much looking
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: go for it
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Mapping the Big Bang gives all frequencies at all magnitudes for an infinetesimal time
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it'd have to be timed absolutely perfectly to do so
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: aard alias: alias sonetwhere echo {where};;where;;echo {/where} -> trigger on -> trigger match -> trigger off = no noise
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i love myself
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it is contained in a plugin, I can't make it an aard alias
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timing happens
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? I don't think anyone was talking about an aard alias
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and what happens if it does? it matches some random word, it's not in the area.. I don't care I hit where again
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: We all are what we all are. Love us all.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that is a way of achieving a 100% noise-free result
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, lobi mentioned one
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's still not 100% noise-free
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: scrunch it tighter
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how capture plugins worked for years, until more things had game-side tags
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: when you sonetwhere mob, it's going to give you where output encased in {}s
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it made them better, but not perfect
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i don't see any possibilities for noise in there
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: where do you see the {} tags?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are 2 things wrong with it...
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: noise will come either before or after {}s, not between
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I can introduce noise into any system
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1) you cannot use an argument to a multi-command aard alias
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem sighs.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: true
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (2) just because you typed the commands consecutively doesn't mean that the MUD won't give you output between them
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I can has tools
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: noise is still entirely possible
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Magna do you have a solution?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: magna, 0 daly commands encased in an alias. do you think the mud will do stuff between?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: 0 delay*
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: noise is still entirely inevitable
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes lobi, the mud will and does
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only complete solution is fuzzy logic
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: how so?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure why you're not trying my solution.. it's already battle-tested
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what solution yajan? your regex?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your solution doesn't work on ANY MOB with a long name...
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am testing it, and magna is right. Over 30 characters and yours fails
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yep, so I manually work-around those cases
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sonet's solution doesn't work on any MOB with a digit in its name
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ... :p
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not the worst thing in the world
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that's the whole point of sonet's question
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: he's trying to find a solution to those cases exactly
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but sonet's already fails on fewer than yours does...
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what is his failing on specifically?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his issue is false positives occasionally
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and that's less??
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: when a mob name exceeds 30 chars, there's no way for the regexp do distinguish mob / room if you don't specify the max 30 size
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: kill wobegoneunearthlyevildoingsisterhatingbrothertuckingbaseballcheater
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and there's no sane way for regexp to distinguish between a where output whose mob exceeds 30 chars and a spellup message or anything else
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: since it looks like a whole single phrase
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right, you can try a quick turn-on, turn-off, but most times that won't work
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so the solution demands surgical turning on and off of the trigger
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: for the result to be noise free
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I didn't see an easy solution to both, but super long mob names aren't that incredibly common in my experience.. so I went that way
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: and that is tough in an asynch environment
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, there is, but it involves more processing...guaranteeing that the single space is a space takes out a fair number of longer messages, and lookup-based sanity checks can make it solid
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd bet the {where}{/where} encasing in alias would work IF one could use arguments in multicommand aliases
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't, lobi
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: commands are still separate from output stream
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient alias is as good as aard alias for that aspect
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but i think since they're 0 delay and will be sent by the server itself, they'll come chained
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: This is exactly the conundrum I cam in to understand
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm not sending 3 commands, in which case i'd agree with you completely
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm sending one command
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you are, though
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not from the command parser perspective
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: when server receives it. it will make my char do 3 commands with 0 delay between. sounds immediate to me
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: magna you still haven't answered how fuzzy logic would help
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so here's a common use case I saw... I'm in the middle of a speedwalk and I throw out this where
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: take the output offline, parse it, and do what you like, but the servwer still sees only one transaction
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it goes to server immediately, and is parsed immediately.. and matches everything on the way
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: no yajan
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the where will only come off after your speedwalk is done
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but MUSH doesn't know that
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how so?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: because the turning on of the trigger will happen only when the {where} gets outputted
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: speedwalk already got sent.. it's just processing output
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: where gets sent immediately while outputting is spitting
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but no sense discussing something that's impossible to implement since multicommand alias can't take arguments
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well there's ways around that right?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i suspect of a way
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: make it a mush alias with arguments
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: why does it need to be an aard one?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: then there's no guarantee there won't be any noise
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: because of lag/delay issues
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not for aard alias, no...lobi is under the impression that making it server-side would improve its chances
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: aard alias guarantees no delay (server side) of the chained commands (once alias "client input" reaches aard server)
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: anyway
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: there's a way to solve sonet's problems
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lag/delay issues aren't really relevant, they'd be sent in the same packet almost every time
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: without an alias
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i don't think room names can start with a lower case
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there are no truly-0-delay commands because of the MUD's pulses
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well yeah but at least they'd be executed in the input order and in the same pulse
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: making regexp require a highcase letter for first room letter
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are lower-case-beginning roomnames
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: example?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I thought it's all based on Abelinc's heartbeat?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i think the mud uppers the first letter's case before sending through gmcp or mud output
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're mostly manor rooms, but they exist...rainbow portcullis, butterfly kisses, etc.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: interesting. i've never seen one
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you thing wrong, the MUD doesn't auto-capitalize
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: magna = abelinc alt too?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh i suspected so
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: for talking about inner mud workings with such certainty :p
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my alts are known :-)
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and no, they wouldn't be executed in the same pulse, they'd be executed in 3 consecutive pulses, but so would other MUD things, which is why it's no more-certain than client-side alias
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Abe just likes taking up 3 slots on everybody's IL
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Bishoujo Raded, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: haters wanna hate, I'll make 'em work for it!
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my alts have one person on flist who isn't on Abe's, and each alt only has a few of Abe's friends
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: anyway. if room names can start with a lower case letter, then i'll say with abelinquy certainty it is impossible for a home computer to compute in practical time any distinction between where output and any other noise.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I see, so you are going to tell us why all of our ideas won't work but not purpose a solution. 
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I had a math teacher like you once.. lol she didn't last long
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did propose a solution...
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and since you can't turn triggers on and off with enogh "speed" to guarantee only the where output itself is caught. no perfect solution in this case
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that solution is not worth implementing
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: No worries, given enough time I will figure something out. For now I need to go make some dinner
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I asked twice to clarify your solution but you didn't even bother to respond
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: sonet one last suggestion
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: inv
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did respond
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if the room names which start with lower case aren't too many (say, 5-10) you could check for them specifically before sending the rest to regexp (and then require first letter in high case to match room)
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: my alts remain anon
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i think it's a nice workaround that will maintain your where trigger pretty noise free
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: not even the pluripotent abelinc knows
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: you said about fuzzy logic but never responded to my questions on how so
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 16:11:12
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yup, I don't know most people's alts...alts are a whole lot harder to track than renames
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm i just reread abelinc's suggestion
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: im sure yiuve got a script to finger every player on who and cross reference login and overlap time
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: well now i know why some people hate him LOL the guy knows his sh*t
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ya I just reread it and I don't understand what he is talking about
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i think i got it
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the 31st character in where is always a space
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: that eliminates some noise already
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: mine checks for that 31st space
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: when you use regex and you put () () the whitespace is counted
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: care to post your regexp again?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, sonet's does nail that down, so only a few spell's messages will hit it
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without the named-capture, his was ^([^0-9]){30,30} (.+)$
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: are the noises you've gotten mostly spellup messages?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: mostly
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wearoff, not the spellup
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why he can't control
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nailing it down further would require post-processing to see if the first capture appears to be a MOBname and/or if the second capture appears to be a roomname
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: because i think this is where the "sanity checks" will come in
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or simply coding out the exceptions that you experience
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am not sure what you mean by "sanity checks"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: or maybe do the opposite. see if it's a spellup wear off. then ignore if it is
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Lobisomem.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: sanity check = these tests
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: see if it's room name, mob name, spellup wear off message
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wearoffs are the easiest to implement, and the least cost
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: exactly. code out the exceptions. you start taking note of the "fails", then make them exceptions in the trigger, basically
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: meh I was hoping for a solution that didn't involve checking through all of the spell messages
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i don't think you can sonet
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not through all of them
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just the ones that you have been experiencing
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: just through the ones whose 31st character is a space
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: because the rest won't trigger
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: in the first place
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could even have a MUSH alias to "add that last where capture to the blacklist"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: aye, that seems the easiest rout
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah and run it for a while
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: fully spellup, blacklist trigger on, wait a few hour
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hours*
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the others, you can use either heuristics, or could use lookups (is roomname in mapper find, for example)
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Samsung is the best there was, there is, and ever will be.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can't you jsut cancel
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you can just cancel yourself
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd just do it as they jump into your where output
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so you don't have to wait
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: shoot my wife's been out with the baby for 2 whole hours and i didn't do shoot
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: guess it's what people mean when they say you either code or play
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I hear abelinc is able to do both
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if that were true, I'd be a lot further along
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: With both hands at the same time
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ok, in this vein I also sometime experience where it does nothing
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm even worse, 95% of the time I'm not coding or playing, just spodding
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: as in the trigger just skipps valid output
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it might've tripped up on a line before that valid output and disabled itself already
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: usually while in a flurry of spelling up or losing spellups
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it has an output if it matches so it should have output something
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: then that's a regexp problem
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if you get a where output that's not matching
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd do what yajan did for a regexp
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It only seems to happen when there is a lot of stuff going on
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: specify criteria positively, not negatively
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and go adding stuff you come to learn you need (i didn't know about ! and ? until i got to oz)
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I will work on the blacklist for this for now, I really need to make dinner my child is hitting me with baby snacks
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh something just came to my head
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: a "smart where" that will create an aard alias on the fly (to work around the no arguments issue) and encase it in {}. i don't think noise will happen
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sigh, it will happen as often as it happens with a MUSH alias...
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's still 3 commands, parsed in 3 separate pulses
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: spellups won't sneak in between the {}s
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd bet on that
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: these aren't spellups, these are wearoffs
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah i mean wear offs
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: betting on that because of the fact the starting and ending {}s are encased in the same aard alias
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better incorrectly
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: betting*
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: funny though, s&d's smart where never failed me
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: like never at all so far
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and i have wear offs all the time
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lobi, try this: ";alias foobomb echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo ; echo foo"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then use "saff" and look for a spellup that's close to wearing off
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when it's a few seconds off, type "foobomb"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lemme try
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will show you that even an aard-alias-started thing won't prevent stuff
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: did you try it?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and may show you what "0-lag command" means when I talk about the MUD's pulses (which are 8 per second)
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean did you get a wear offf between the foos?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course :P
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. then i'm affraid the hard coded exceptions will be the only solution
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the 31st char check will drastically reduce the number of exceptions needed though. won't be too big a code though
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: though
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem p
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem :p
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing which can help is to reduce the number of characters that the room name can be
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but is where output's room name limited?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since outside spelloff messages, even channel output could trip it
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: like mob name is to 30 chars?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: which is the biggest room name in the game? :p
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: could try whereing something in there
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: why dont you just get mob names from scan here
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the mob is not in the room in this case tufke
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: neither in the adjacent rooms
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: we're parsing a "where"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, longest roomname in my database is room 23267, named "Captain's Office, Skybolts' Winter Quarters, Bolthaven, Rethwellan"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: where something in there?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /sys mysql -t -D aard --execute="select UID,RoomName,RoomZoneShort AS area from room where CHAR_LENGTH(RoomName) > 65"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /sys mysql -t -D aard --execute="select UID,RoomName,RoomZoneShort AS area from room where CHAR_LENGTH(RoomName) > 60"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: man i wish i could do mysql statements
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd rock my client so hardcore
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: SQL is easy.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh i'll learn it someday
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i just need to take the time to sit and really learn it, not just copy paste stuff
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: A million tutorials out there
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i just want to study the whole thing, get a book or something.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not just copy the exact thing i need from some forum question and use without understanding it
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: my ocd will block attempts to use code which i don't understand
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Maybe you would like it better the way I originally typed it
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: A million titorials out there
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, guess I was wrong about the roomname truncation
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "where abes" yields "a dust devil called abespethas On a Forest Path a Few Miles Southeast of the Staging Grounds"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: wrong how?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from help mu-rooms, you're allowed to have 80 chars in the room name, so you could limit it to that, or could further reduce possible issues by using a more-strict limit of 65 characters which would work for the rooms in the "currently-known universe"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augent Tech: when I try to open my Aardwolf client it says "Mushclient has stopped working" and forces itself to close. I didn't change anything tho.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm between tiering right away or sitting and scripting at the end of this mort
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if i do sit and script, i'll make my own cp assistance plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and i need to call it something significant
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: something that will remind me of the people who helped on the way
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: helped me*
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: since the plugin is supposed to help me find and eliminate mobs
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you try resetaard?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i thought about "fiend & eliminate"
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what do you guys think?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i can imagine
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ops mis
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: okay stupid question time, if my streaming video is lagging, and it isn't my computer (plenty of free resources), or my isp (speedtests running normally), it must be the site I am streaming from right?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it could also be your ISP
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: test another video / youtube . for a quick check.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: my speed tests to various hubs around the country run at 100 mbps, so it doesn't seem to be.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you could try streaming something in hd from youtube ...to compare.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if a second source plays fine its either the host of the video .. or you have some kind of codec problem.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: speed tests are a kind of funny thing where you really have no strong reason to believe that the ISP isn't prioritizing traffic to the speedtest
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: or as fiend says .. the ISP is throttling that traffic.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: hmm good point
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but youtube video seems to stream and buffer just fine
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I guess Verizon could be throttling HBO GO, but that seems odd to me.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: check your codec .. oh its HBO go?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: does that explain my problem and I just don't get it?
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: emm try this stuff . https://forums.adobe.com/message/4300443#4300443
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I mean if it were sunday night I would understand, because dragons.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: youtube is using html 5.  and im guessing hbo go is still using flash.  so it could be some problem with your adobe flash
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: youtube is only using html5 if your browser is compatible and your youtube settings ask it to
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: running it in microsoft edge on windows 10, flash version is current, drivers are current.
T3/r7/2016-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: guess ill try loading the same movie up on my tablet and see if it lags there too
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: abelinc are you on?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: whoever answers with "affirmative" instead of yeah or yes or yup is abelinc
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: right?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: hey lob, have you ever saved the state of a table within a plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i haven't coded such a thing but they serialize it
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd suspect it to be easy to do
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ever taken a look at s&d mapper extender state file?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: "xset mark" start rooms are stored in a lua table which is serialized and saved into a single mushclient variable (which is stored in the state file)
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and then deserialized back into a lua table on plugin load
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: xset mark = the setting of a room to be the "starting room" of an area
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: oh man you can litterally use SetVariable
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: for use with the "smart" goto
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it seralizes automatically?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Set/GetVariable seems to do all the heavy lifting for you
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean will SetVariale accept a lua table as an argument?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: not sure yet
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm i wouldn't expect to because else why would "require 'serialize'" be there then
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: hmm it seems to
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: so does SetVariable autoserializes?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: hard to completly verify with my little one hitting my keyboard and mouse
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i feel you man
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: hmm no it doesn't it just saved the whole table as a string
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: pastebin it?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'd like to take a look
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: at the client variable after SetVariable("clientvariable", luatable) thing
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I just made a mushclient variable of {"the", "a"}
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: try inserting a subtable and see what happens
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: nah. not even that
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: name an entry
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I will play with it in a few hours when he goes down for a nap, I can't concentrate with him here
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if you get something like { "first": "the", "second": "a" } then that's exactly what serialize does, so setvar is doing it auto
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: so you need to serialize it, SetVariable is only for strings
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: so the line needed is 'SetVariable("test","test ="..serialize.save_simple(where_black_list))'
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i never tried actually tried so i can't say. but didn't you say SetVariable would take a lua table directly as an argument?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it will take a serialized table
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ah. yeah a serialized table is nothing but a string
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: assert (loadstring (GetVariable ("test") or "")) () to make it a table again
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: awesome. i'll need that when i get to do my coding
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: which might start at this mort's end hopefully
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: any mushclient gurus here?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not me but i'm sure there are a couple around
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: when upgrading, what file do you need to transfer to get your aliases and triggers back?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: world file
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: not a guru but whats up?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: you need to save them in your old client and it makes a file you can transfer
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: what's it called?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: aardwolf.mcl and it's stored in c:\aardmush\worlds
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: aardmush should be replaced by whatever folder contains your mushclient.exe
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but that's if your talking about triggers/aliases that you set yourself
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: plugins are a whole different thing
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: ok, i've transferred that file and have no triggers
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i don't know what to say in this case. triggers and aliases (and timers) are stored in the .mcl file. as long as you're using the same .mcl file, you'll have the same aliases/triggers/timers
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: did you restart your client after transfering?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh yeah you need to do all that with mushclient.exe closed :p
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: so i copied the aardwolf.mcl file back to the old version and the aliases work
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: but not in the new version
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: windows explorer folder dark magic might be happening
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: try this
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: open your new version of aard client. then close the world (in mushclient. don't close mushclient). the go to open world and look for the .mcl file that's in the world folder of the old version of aard client
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: see if you get your triggers back that way
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: saving from the old version the alias and trigger files worked
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: and reloading in the new version
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: my echoing of room.wrongdir gmcp packet is getting delayed. help?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: http://pastebin.com/3S0Y1kBs
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: room.wrongdir will one print when i move again or look or something
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: only* not one
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: why the hex for IAC SB SE DO?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: copied from fiendish's gmcp handler since i know nothing about telnet protocols
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have family over I will look into it later
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: useless so far though
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: cool
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lobi, quick question. Why are you doing telnet subnegotiations
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hi what's the question?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blue Bird Chrestomanci Tech: 2b or !2b?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's probably SB, not 2B
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blue Bird Chrestomanci Tech: as in soulbound studio?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh. echo delay. *sigh* yeah. I fought against that.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still think it's wrong, but it apparently patches around some other failure 
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at great expense
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: besides i can't seem to put serialize.lua to work. i get all types of error when i try to "declared-lua-variable = loadstring(gmcp_data)"
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=12915&page=1
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try without dashes
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, If you post in that thread arguing that the current (relatively new) behavior is disruptive and unexpected I'll appreciate it
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nick's treating GMCP as arbitrary and random, but it's not
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only way to approach this is to assume that the entire data stream could be wrapped in the GMCP bytes and go from there
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sometimes he takes pushing
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway this might make more sense after you read the thread
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: reading now
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or at least my comments on it
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: came back just to check the chat
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's something I'm a bit upset about
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I've had that problem for a long time, but figured it was because I just use soo many damn notes.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well now you know to blame the 3moons plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've never seen the problem being discussed. I'm sure it's a real problem, but the accepted solution is quite terrible.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thread is closed
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can you reopen it? you're a moderator aren't you?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Daresia Tech: how do you do wildcards/regex in mapper find/list again?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i only know of quoting in order to make it exact match (and not a "contains" match)
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Daresia Tech: i figured it out before but i can't remember it anymore lol
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: %
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper find %dark% %cave%
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Etc.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Daresia Tech: cool ty
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh cool, that's useful didn't know that was supported
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: awesome. didn't know that was possible :p
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: me either hehe
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: poor saps that don't always have tech channel on lose out again
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: bwahahahahaha
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I always have it on, but I don't always catch everything hehe
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan chortles mischievously.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have it on, but I don't usually understand anything :'(
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I missed it :(
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I guess I am not a 1%er
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: oh well.. I'll do another mentoring session with Abelinc
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah.. me too
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mentor me! eeeeee
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades prods you into action!
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: mentoring from abelinc is not just mentoring, it's mentolinc
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's superior
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I just dont like that gong he slams every 30 minutes
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You should make sure you get it right. It's every 29.923245881 minutes. He's precise.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and then you have to chant his name
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I never get the tone right
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nor the speed right. It's 42 "Abelincs" in 23 seconds.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khazala Tech: does anybody know how to bring the health bar back in mush? I changed from a bigger screen to a smaller one and now the health bar is lost
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: resetaard ?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khazala Tech: how do I restart it? there is no such an option, or do you mean disable and enable? or reinstall?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: resetaard is a command
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: fyi i'm lol'ing at the gong and precision stuff. just got back
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khazala Tech: ah, sry, resetaard,not restart, can-t see well on this small screen, thanks Endymion
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok I reopened that forum thread
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: on it.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: replied to post
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: k
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i tell wait() to wait fractions of a second?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes .1
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is .1 the lowest fraction of second lua will take?
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: smallest i mean
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: going any less than that would be pointless just about :P
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: but i'm talking about general lua (not only cexit wait()s)
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: probably not... it can probably go smaller...
T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah mapper uses wait.lua which implements timers in mush.  so it should be .1 minimum
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augent Tech: so when I try to launch my aardwolf client it immediately crashes without giving a reason. I can redownload it (I did) but now all my mapper info, etc. is gone
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: is there any way to add cexits in mapper, without the mapper waiting to confirm that i've reached the destination room? There are some rooms which teleport you directly into another room, so you can't just add a cexit like normal
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how do i get the mapper show me the path to a room without actually running there?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper where 12345
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thanks - i thought it was where but could not see it under mapper help
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's not there
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: lol now i see it
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper help search where
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is it? i musta missed it
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i usually wont find something unless i ask for it - then i (of course) immediately find it
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: xcp
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: erm. mis
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Strazor snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do find out the available screen width (taking off output scrollbar width)?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Are you asking about monitor width?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: monitor width minus output scrollbar and windows buggy additional taken space
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are various GetInfo values
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah seems it's getinfo 264 (262 is monitor i think)
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean 262 gives me whole monitor width, 264 takes scroll + bug off
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: which is what i was looking for (going to manually set miniwins pos/width to take up all available space
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how can i change my miniwindows' x/y/width/height on the fly by keyboard? i know i need to use that SetPluginVariable() function but how do i "refresh" it afterwards?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i just don't want to have to close and reopen mush to see changes
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: setpluginvariable will probably not work
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: why?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because coordinates are probably not stored in plugin variables directly
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe in the movewindow variables, I guess
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. i suppose just for cross close/open remembering i guess?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: there are variables in the state that store x/y/width/height. won't it work if i, say, change them and reinstall the plugin? i just don't want the changes i made to be overwritten upon "deloading" of the plugin for reinstall
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes but I think often those variables are not accessible through getpluginvariable/setpluginvariable? are you able to get them?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess if you can get them then you can probably set them
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah. seems reinstalling "resets" my changes
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'll try just closing -> changing -> opening mush
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shakes his head.
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think what you probably want to do is get access to the plugin's windowinfo object
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's what gets returned by movewindow.install
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: changing while mush is closed works
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: gonna take my kid to school. brb
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or maybe...
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe you just need to run WindowCreate using the known miniwindow id and then reinstall the plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that _might_ work
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make sure state gets saved in between, I guess, though I think reinstalling might do that automatically
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: hmm, what is the call called again that checks the last database error?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: uhhhhhhh
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: nvm got it
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh interesting. channels only over gmcp kinda slightly breaks compact mode hehe :\
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or rather, slightly breaks the absence of compact mode, since gmcp channels don't also get a newline sent
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: where is output x/y/width/height stored?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: depends on whether you have the layout plugin loaded or not
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. Aardwolf_Main_Layout is on?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: look at OnPluginSaveState in that plugin then
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: any network savy folks able to help me troubleshoot connection issues at work in roughly 10 minutes? 
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: per diem?  ;)  I'll be here lol
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: haha. if you can help me get it working and im not stuck on a phone anymore ill gladly toss a few tps your way 
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: generally, what's the issue?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: mush wont connect, getting an error. can elaborate in a few, heading back to my desk now 
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: change the port number, probably
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: ok, so i get "error occured during phase: Connecting to world: 66.228.127.34, port 23
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: ok
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: can you ping the ip?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: unable to connect to "aardwolf," code = 10061 (connection refused)
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try changing the port from 23 to 4010
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or 4000
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: fiendish, he can't even ping aardmud.org
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did he say that?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: to me, not in tech
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: networks sometimes filter pings for stupid reasons
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: yeah sorry it says 4 packets aent 0 recieved, lost =4
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: can he tracert? where does this stop?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, can't ping anything that microsoft runs, for example
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so not being able to ping isn't a guarantee of anything
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: if you can't ping, it's probably blocked.  tracert from that same black box would tell you where
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: tracert aardmud.org
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if he can't ping it might just mean that his network disallows pings
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: possible, I'm thinking that if it is that locked down, probably locked down enough to not allow any of the ports out.
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: possible
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: clearly aardwolf should run on port 80
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: yeah, no issues with that lol
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: port 25 or bust.
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: tequest timed out after a few ips came back 
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: what's the last one that worked?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: 54.140.48.78
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: anything next to it?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: let's try what fiendish said
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: in your mushclient, go to game, configure mud name / ip address
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: tried at 4000 and 4010 and neither works 
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use wireshark, check for icmp administratively prohibited messages
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: dude, he didn't know how to ping, wireshark is a little beyond him lol
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: googled it def not in my realm of comfort lol
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: also putting wireshark on your computer at work, if detected could get you into trouble if you aren't supposed to be doing stuff like that lol
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: sadly phone battery is dying :/ hoing to have to log and try again later
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: since you can connect from your phone, maybe you can tether your computer over your phone's connection
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what's likely happening in the isp when my connection has "laggy" periods that happen more or less at the same times every day?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's so annoying
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's 4:40pm. that's not a peak time is it?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: could be
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: depends on the work schedules of the people in your ISP service area
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is it possible that such a lag is deliberately caused by an isp for some reason beyond me?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: network management?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: bandwidth/speed management?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: that is always a posibility but unlikely
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: do you use a lot of bandwidth?
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: nope. not at all. i just mud these days heh
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: that would have been the only thing I could see them limiting you for
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i even considered the possibility of getting myself a mobile modem so i could no longer be behind my work's firewall
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I use my mobile phone for that when I am out and about
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it is a bit slow, but it works and is dependable. More so than the networks I encounter
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i don't have a data plan on my phone because i never get a signal when i need it
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have to have the data plan because I have a smart phone, but T-Mobile does not charge for going over, they just throttle you. So it works out great
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: the things I use it for usually require a slow but steady connection so it doesn't stop me at all
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: my phone is a smart phone, but it's only smart when i'm home lol
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: Does xterm 256 lag mudlet?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: hi guys how do i write another spellup?  i resd the slistband spelltag helpfilrs and i am completely confused.  i just wanna be able to save mana by casting certain sequences of spells when i need them.  Help me please!
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: give me an example of mid swing 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: no newbie channel discussed this withnme snd adsuredbme that i was okay and ghat yall would helpbteachmme
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: bast has spellup script. maybe you can check it.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: finger bast for link.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wait wait wait
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: ibdont know what you mean
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: when you say "another" I assume you mean you've looked at available options?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: i thought in-game spellup hehe
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know what to think, so I'm asking
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tess?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: first, i am very green at this stuff. so bear with me please.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well to me you are both green and also cyan
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i type speklup and all of my mana s gone too fast.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: try the "spellup" command too
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok crazy people trying to help without actually listening to the problem, stop and listen to the problem first
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: quaff a mana potion and type it again
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: so i forgetspell alot ofbspells because i dont need em right then.  inwant to use them when inneed them.  its not botting, bscause i am right hee avout to face a mob and i want to usebthe enhancing/protective spells without before the fight starts.  anyway how do i set it up. please
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tess: so you have more spellup spells available than you have mana for, yes? And while one possible option is to use potions to replenish mana, you want to explore making a script that will cast only a few of your most desired spells?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tess?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: your close but not qyite getting it.  i already have my spellup list edited.  my adventuring spells that i cast regularly while exploring.  thats all good.  i also wantbto use specifif spells that i only need used before going into a fight.  it is too much to use these certain spells all day, so i eant a second spellup for spells like FRENZY and AID and GIANT STRENGTH.  See what i mean?  i dont need those spells cast all time.    
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so make a second alias with those specific spells?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish attempts to make Gorsk close his mouth in the interest of peace.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Gorsk: the first list is not an alias
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tess: ok, so here's my complete expert analysis on the situation you're describing. I can present to you only a halfway solution without you engaging in a lot of work for this. And I think Gorsk, according to some private tells, has perhaps hinted to you what this half solution would be. Let me describe kind of a problem with spellups...
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: First let's cover what I think Gorsk's suggestion is, and I'll explain why this has problems but also why it may be your best bet.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: okay the snag i come up against with my android is i csnnot remenber how to set it up . heres what i got
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: alias reddy c aid
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Gorsk is suggesting that you, use something like "alias combatspells cast 'lightspeed';cast 'accelerate';cast 'giant strength';etc..."
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and then when you type combatspells you'll immediately try to cast all those other spells
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now here's the problem with using that as a spellup given your current situation: if any of those spells fail to land you don't have a good way to re-cast just the ones that failed unless you set up complex client scripts to track which spells land and which ones don't
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the result of this is that if you fail a lot, you're still going to run out of mana
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: the aliases worked when i set them up for the healing spells
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because the only easy way to re-cast _some_ of them is to re-cast all of them
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which takes you back to an earlier suggestion, which is to use mana potions to replenish mana before spelling up
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but if you aren't likely to fail a lot of those casts, then it's probably ok
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i would not use them in a fightbfor combat spells for that very reason.  although reading the help file spelltags it tells us how to handle the missfires...
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the most basic way to handle misfires is to combine the basic "cast all your desired spells" alias with a trigger that watches for the failure message (sfail tags would help with this) and then re-casts the ones that fails
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i really would appreciate any suggestions on phrasing the command 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (of course you only want to recast the ones that fail for reason 1)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the command for the alias or the command for the trigger?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: alias
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure, what spells do you want to cast?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: aid, giant strength, haste
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just those three?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure no problem
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what do you want to type?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: reddy
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what software are you using to connect to aardwolf?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (more importantly, does it eat the ; symbol?)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i am not sure but the other aliases needed two 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: we can test! type this --->    tech ;;;;
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: oops itbdropped the symbols
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (actually that might have been a bad test. I hope it didn't just turn your channel off)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: it turned off tech.  it needs 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok!
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then I'll need more information about what your client needs in order to send a literal ; to the game
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: Tess, are you using blowtorch?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nightbird: does blowtorch use .;?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: okay, on your own Fiendish
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish laughs out loud at Day the Nightbird.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i used the semi colon with a wavy line for the other aliases
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: it can, you just have to change a setting
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tess: like this? -->   ~;
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: two of them
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: two of which? ~~; or ~;; ?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i keep trying to type it to you, but they keep getting dropped.  along with whatever words come aftr
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't try to type it. just describe it without typing them
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: say "wavy line, wavy line, semicolon" or something
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i believe wavy line is called a tilde
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: that is the prob.  i cannot remember which.  so every time i try it comes out wrong
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: oh i think it wrnt tilde, semi semi, tilde 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ~;;~ ?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you able to type the following? --->   tech a~;;~b
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what happens?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: a
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well that's peculiar
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm going to need to again ask what app you're running on your android
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: a;
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hey, there you go. what did you just type?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i typed a tilde semi semi tilde b 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok so what if you type this then? --->  tech a~;b~;c~;d
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: it needs to a tilde semi tilde semi b tilde semi tilde semi
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: a;;b;;c
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk goes "WHEE!" and dances around Tess.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now you have too many
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think you need to just use "tilde semi" to send one semi. doing "tilde semi" twice sends two
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: not for android it works perfect
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: if i dont double, it dont work.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you're saying that you can do "tech ~;~;" and it sends to us "tech ;;", but you cannot do "tech ~;" to send us just "tech ;"?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that doesn't sound reasonable
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: he'd be able to help better knowing your client, as each has a different set of rules
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i have no clue what client
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: how are you logging on?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: could you type what i came up with and then use it and tell me what it says to you?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tess: type what?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: insert the word alias in front of the following reddy c aid;;c haste;;c giant strength 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm using an entirely different client than you are. but I do know the system very well, and I can tell you that you only need to send one ; not two
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: oops it came out different
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: it casts all threr in succession snd then it says theyre not here
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, you need to put quotation marks around "giant strength"
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's covered in 'help cast'
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "If the spell name is more than one word, then you must quote the spell name.  Quoting is optional for single-word spells"
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: ok thanks.  sorry dropped my phone
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hope the phone is ok
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: Any idea why the xcp command sends me to some random place in the area before attempting to hunt the mob?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can somebody pqs
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you need to "xset mark" while at the area entrance
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it might depend on your version of s&d too though
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: question: gmcp doesn't tell me that i've killed a mob does it?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adraxus Tech: thanks, lobi.  :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, but it tells you when you drop out of combat
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: does lynx have any good alternatives to one note?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: how do i fix my scrolling issues.  i am an android, and i use the app with the wolf howoing as its icon.  i am not blowtorch, either.  when i try scrolling my screen goes out of control.  jumping back and then slowlyb rolling down through the last 10 pages, unless i touch it again and then it jumps back some more snd starts the slow scroll all over again.  also a bumch of bubbles marked label stay permanently scattered across my screen.  h
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you are blowtorch, because that's what that app is
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: so in the stone archway in onyx.  mapper find testing, finds 34529, mapper goto 34529 gives me run u4nusw2nwunue4d2eswswnunwnwnw3n5w3n3wdwd3wnwswnws2d3en2ened2s2ws2wd2s3e, which isn't anywhere near right
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a blowtorch which was packaged pre-configured to connect to Aard
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try toggling full screen mode
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's all sorts of weirdness that that fixes on blowtorch
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: i downloaded blowtorch through play store on my ohone but it was way to confusing.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: thanks 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tess Tech: toggling did not work
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the docs for blowtorch are applicable to the "aardwolf rpg" client
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: thinking about, going on the road for about 6 months, my laptop is heavy as crap.  looking to ditch it to a somthing smaller, was looking at some of these netbook type things with unubutu on them, 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: anyone have any serious suggestions? half way considering mac air, but they are really pricy
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: I have an old macbook running Ubuntu (Linux) works fine 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: just install wine and you can run MUSHclient
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: i use one note alot right now. wondering if there any alternatives to it
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: my bro set me up a laptop with ubuntu on it once, we had to set it back though couldnt get cac card reader to work, for log into army website.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: anyway i'm not so techy
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Go with a small windows computer then 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: onenote?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: It runs with windows
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: yeah it does, question was about getting away with a linux laptop
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: don't save a few bucks, if you want a out of the box solution
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: lol just buy a surface pro 4 then? :P
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: You can get away with Linux just fine, but you have to learn a little 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: linux rockz
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: i liked what i have used, gui was nice. couldnt get wine to run one note.  
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: think evernote is linux compatible, but would need to get something new for wordpress then. one note sends my articles straight to my wordpress
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Only reason why I don't run linux anymore on my stationary computer is because I began to play Everquest again
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: my main thing, is i'm going mobile. so need to get as much out of each thing as possible, not wanting to drag a cellphoe, a table, and a laptop
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: so far i'm logged into aardwold from us,iraq,kuwait,germany, philippines, south korea, need to add some to that
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Once you learn about Linux you will get the feeling of true freedom, same with playing Aardwolf 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: until you want to play a game of course
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: what linux platform you guys suggest?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Software should be free :).....leaving EQ out :()
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Ubuntu
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: seems thats the most popular
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Pretty much out of the box
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: i'v installed it once. was pretty easy, reconigized all my hardware, 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: You can always find a game lookng like some windows game and other programs, and you have payed nothing 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: gotta go, happy hunting all
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: thx for tha advice
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Copied all of my files over when I downloaded mush 5.01.  Now I am getting this message spammed when I boot up the new mush "sendgmcp request char"
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regulus Tech: Spams that input until connection time is idled out at login screen.  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlyZoR Tech: Is there DVD players that support mp4? Google only suggests to convert them to avi for most players...
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how do i remove the wolf from my output's background?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and how do i remove the image from my client's background?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: why, you speciesist!
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I have to, I am sorry. sudo rm /
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Lobisomem look at the bottom of this https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: There is an image file in the mushclient folder, delete or replace that. Or you can have the client call a different solid color
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah i'd like to have the client call a different solid color tbh
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BluMalice Tech: -5 15
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: other than bast plugins, anyone recommend any must haves?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: sqlite question: can i put a list of things (instead of just only one thing) in a table's "cell"?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's a list?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: okay, guys, I'm having a lot of issues with mapper, and I'm hoping it's just me being silly
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I'm trying to add a cexit, and it just fails.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: why does it fail?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: okay ,so I'm at the strangely glowing rock, and the exit is enter crack
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: so I type in mapper cexit enter crack
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: it moves me through the crack, I do not move, and about 2 seconds later it goes CEXIT FAILED: Custom Exit enter crack leads back here!
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ? if it moves you through the crack and back? you must have a trigger for the next room to zap you back?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so you're in the room "A Strangely Glowing Rock", you type "mapper cexit enter crack", it sends you to the next room, then tells you the cexit failed?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: do you get any other messages like "You don't see that here."?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: raded in this room just type enter crack . what happens.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I'm also having issues with mapper find, it doesn't find a lot of the things I look for, even if it is a straight line.  I'm wondering if something isn't just borked.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: I just tried it.  Works for me.  Custom Exit CONFIRMED: 11349 (enter crack) -> 11350
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: some areas have cexits leading into them that need to be set up, like Art of Melody or Chessboard.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: has that area been updated?  Maybe mapper purgeroom ?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: instead of find try typing xma for whole game room search . or just xm for area room search.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: so assuming my mapper is borked, would it be a db thing, and I can just purge it, or would it be something with my client, and I have to redo everything?  lol
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the problem is likely something much smaller
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: mapper seems to be stable .. i would say you have some problem with the exits here .  come back to the glowing rock
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: no, nothing like you don't see that...I sent you all of the output it shows me
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: try doing "mapper cexit_wait 10" then try it again
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so you can enter crack . and pass to the next room normally right?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: tried the same mapper cexit enter crack after mapper cexit_wait 10, and it still failed.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: what happens if you just type enter crack....
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: You step into the Blemish of Darkness and arrive in...Under the Rock
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you type "mapper cexits here" does anything come up?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: 0 custom exits in both originating and arrival room
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: "mapper cexits here" shows all cexits for the area
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: type 'mapper backup' and see if any errors show.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I guess me doing it in both rooms is useless then ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: integrity check passed
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: already tried closing your client and restarting?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: yes, I can do it again though
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'd suspect a rogue alias somewhere
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want and are able, you can send me a copy of your mapper db and I'll take a look at it
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try to see what's wrong
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I would be glad too, let me try and identify the db file in the folder
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Fiendish is Mr Wolf from Pulp Fiction, but with MUSH
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: close mushclient first and then it will be Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: brb
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: test
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: sent
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: fetching. please wait.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if you try to do one wehre your standing for cexit n what happens?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: so something like opening the altar in kingsolm, that isn't a cexit persay...mapper can't handle that?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lucron: type 'checkversion' please
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: r1871
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: off
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: just type tech without the off
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: mapper can do nearly anything . west.buy ticket. run wne. board train. open e.e. give ticket cond. 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: etc etc .. all in one exit.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: so a cexit for open altar would allow it to generate a proper sw?  cause of course that failed for me too, since I didn't move lol
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I guess I could open altar, w and it should count
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: normal for an open it would be cexit open thing;
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so this is interesting...
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: well i dont know how to stack 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as soon as I load your db, my client updates the database schema
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: lol . have to ask fiend how to stack the semicolon
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: double them
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ;;
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ;
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (I typed ;;;;)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: anyway . the semicolon is a command seperator .. so if you want to open north and go north its open n;;n
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so mapper cexit open n;;n
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lucron: are you using a completely unmodified package?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: yeah, both failed.  ; and ;;
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: as far as I know.  I downloaded the latest version of mushclient, 5.01, and just copied my world folder, but I had only added bast plugins to it.  I wouldn't even know how to modify it, I haven't been playing with mushclient that long yet lol
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you copied your whole world folder?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: ...yes?  lol
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: including the plugins folder?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: ...yes.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: and the ascii porn?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whoops
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't do that
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: well then.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you overwrote all the plugin files
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: that...makes sense.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bad news bears
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: okay, so I'll be gone for a few, as I start over and don't do that, then add back my plugins ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry for the pain
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hopefully after this the next update will be smoother if the in-place updater works for you
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: it isn't you, that's the way it works, that's what I gotta do ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's good to copy over your plugins, just not good to overwrite ones that have been updated since the old version
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I really only had basts, except for 1 I added today, and bast updated as far as I can tell, so..probably should do this anway.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: fiend do you have a script for sinus problems.  that would be handy.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: or maybe some ascii art that will cause me to blow soda out my nose
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, yeah, give me a minute
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: here...
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: download these two files: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/raw/experiments/experiments/Tetris_theme.wav   https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/experiments/experiments/miniwindow_Tetris.xml
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: omgomgomg
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is a miniwindow version of the tetris mobprogs I wrote on test port
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: except with music
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (obviously)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: lol nice. 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that second link needs t obe this instead https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/raw/experiments/experiments/miniwindow_Tetris.xml
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and if you want to know how to put that in your next Aardwolf area, you can read here http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/InteractiveEventLoops
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: im a board game nerd .. ive always thought it would be cool to have thinkgs like the ever popular monopoly
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I was going to do monopoly as mobprogs too, but then I realized that nobody actually enjoys playing monopoly
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Run Run Robbo Tech: I'll stick with 8-balls and tarot cards.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: that so totally didn't suck really bad
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: working now?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I don't know yet...my client has gone insane, and I'm trying to tame it
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: or other board games . cards against humanity .  rpg inside of a mud .. shrug . if i had the skills 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, I think something like cards against humanity, with demonstrably fun game mechanics would be have been better than Mafia which is extremely flawed by design
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: this game works great lol.  nice implementation. 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: now it just needs the ability to show the next piece and bank a piece...
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: time for a tetris tournament 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to do that, you should use netris
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: okay, I have no output text, yay
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lucron: what does your prompt look like?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (oh never mind, you won't be able to show me because you won't be able to see it)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: ^
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lucron: disable the prompt fixer plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and restart
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see if that fixes it
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: netris - http://neitris.sourceforge.net/
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wait, that's the wrong link
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: does not appear to ahve fixed it
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: by disable I meant remove
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know if it stays disabled
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I gathered, as it apparently rennabled itself
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: wow that neitris looks amazing.  dang .. i might be gone for a week or so.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: okay, so invmon is borked, disabling that next
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: invmon?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: appears to be a bast thing
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: okay, that fixed it
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: now to test mapper
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: btw, can you tell me what your prompt is set to?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: fiendish, you are a genius, mapper now works ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: another happy customer
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: well, I am happy too after he teached me to do one alias to pass portals typing normal adress
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: bad thing is now I literally have to rebuild my db rofl
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: mapper thing?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: okay, so chats are going to both my main window AND my communication log...what am I missing?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: right-click in the comm log for options
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: default is that it goes to both windows
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: echo back setting, thank you
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: longshot car question: stereo stopped working after getting a jump for a dead battery. leave it alone for a while. randomly starts working today, then powers off/on after a few minutes, then powers off completely after about 10 more minutes. no issues with any other electrics, fuse looks good but replacing it anyway is my next step. anyone know about this stuff? :p
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wrong tech channel, try car tech
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded gives Yajan the raspberry... PHBT!  What a mess... Spit EVERYWHERE!
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan giggles at Bishoujo Raded's actions.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't want to make a reddit account or pay money.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: alternator toast
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alternator's fine, battery's fine
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: dang it
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: can you accept my answer anyway? there's a green check mark
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: what year / model car
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 2012 mazda3, stock radio, not the bose one.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I dunno sounds fusey
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it does sound fusey
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you checked the fuse with one of those electric thingies right?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the higher volatge of recharging may've fried the car-stereo
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no, eyeballed it :p
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you need to try one of those thingies
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Xyliz: wouldn't that prevent it from coming back on at all?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: not really Raded
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it feels like a bad connection sort of problem
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: check the fuses. buy a new radio.  did you group the black cable before jumping?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: if it messed up just parts of it it could just be getting to a point where its bad and stopping
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: ground, not group
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: jumping fried the deck most likely if it wasn't grounded.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think I'll have to replace the fuse to properly replace it. cables were hooked up correctly.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: properly check it, I mean
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the fuse is likely standard blade right?  doubt it would go in/out.  unless its self resetting but either way something is fried
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: you can get a fuse kit at advance auto for a few bucks.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at Toetag.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: even if it's unlikely to be the fuse it feels like the right thing to spend money on first
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: still think fried the stero with the jump.  always ground the black, never put both cables on the battery
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ground cable was on unpainted metal. also I googled it to make sure I didn't mess up before I did it. I like my car too much :p
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: even better news Raded.  if it's not fuse deck has gone bad.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the car-stero on a very old vehicle eventually slowly degraded from the practice of continuous trickle-charge - but may've been fried when Hydro played games with the supply, the (triple) off-on-off-on-off-on game to yurn off condumer appliances -- there was no voltage-surge-protector to the trickle-charger
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: check crutchfield, you can get some really nice decks for fairly cheap now-a-days.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: bluetooth, camera input, gps...under $300  blaupunkt/jensen brands
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (to turn off consumer appliances: refigerators, digital equipment, et cetera) 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i have been wrong once or twice before .. but i believe the only reason to connect the ground last and not to the battery is for spark protection .. if the battery is leaking hydrogen gas the spark will cause .... problems. 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: because the ground cable from the battery connects right to the frame / block of the vehicle.. exactly the same as connecting it to the block with the jumper.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: correct not a common occurance with gases with modern batteries but best to be safe
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the manufacturers ought to put a surge protector on the car-battery circuit
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if it were a fried stereo it seems odd that it would come back to life
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: shorted out a chip, blew a voltage regulator, capacitor, not too off the mark.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe the stereo circuitry is degraded not totally fried
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so the radio probably didnt get cooked from the jump.  it could be ... why did his battery die to begin with?  bad alternator .. bad voltage regulator ... thats a nice one that can fry everything with your alternator crapping out lots of volts.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: battery died because I had surgery and forgot to have someone start my car while I was laid up
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so you have something thats always draining your battery?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ive had cars sit for years in north dakota and start right up.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not a modern one with rfid stuff I assume
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: whatever radio receiver there is for the key fob must drain some battery
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RentAShawl Anaristos Tech: ND waa taken over by aliens from Roswell. You are just enjoying their technology.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in some vehicles, there is a special resettable-fuse that may only be reset by disconnecting the battery, waiting a few moments, and then reconnecting the battery
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: those RFID setups use very very little power . a car battery would run that for probably years before dead.  
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: 2012 model. plenty of things trickling off the battery during down time
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: anyway good luck .. intermittent are the worst sort of problems.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at Masrok.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: looks like I could replace it with a used one for under $100 if I wanted to
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: check Crutchfield, Raded.  install kits included
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: make sure to check your + terminal on the battery .. that no wires got somehow disconnected, mangled, or severe corrosion.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: wire harnesses, face paltes. up
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: Masrok, good call.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a trickle-charge-maintainer is likely required on most electronic vehicles these days to maintain the battery the vehicle left sitting undriven more than a day 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I know for my prius I can let it sit for about 3 days before I get an email telling me I need to start it up or risk it damaging the battery, but it has a lot of aftermarket stuff on it
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if your + terminal looks like a barnacle .. clean that crap off and get some protectant from your auto parts store . 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: isn't the complaint about intermittent stereo
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: battery looked good when I checked it but I didn't look closely at the things around it
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: somehow i doubt all that can cause that
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, that's why I figured it wasn't anything near the battery. if it was near the battery, it'd be fiddling with more than the stereo.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: intermittant = bad connection typically . somehow the radio is losing power and getting it back . 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Crappy connection in the fuse box?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: check whether you've got a cockroach/spider/whatever infestation inside the stereo :p
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: it could be a bad fuseable link also . but that sucks nearly as bad as anything else to hunt down.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: most intermittent stereo issues I have seen are wiring inside the dash stereo unit
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: metria bad fuse, lose fuse, corroded fuse, possible.  kinda doubt it with a 2012 but possible
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: lets not forget, it started after a jump start
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: something plugged into your cigaratte lighter thats shorting out .
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I assume you tried a known working stereo unit and got the same results?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: rats and rodents like to feast of the plastic wire coatings used by some manufacturers
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you'd assume wrong, Emm :p
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: how many rats live in your 2012 car raded?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no more than 38 rats
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think threshold is 40 so that shouldnt be it
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i got a 97 oldsmobile that had at least 50 mice in it .. whew that sucker stunk.  LOL
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: Endymion, is why i say jump somehow fried the deck.  shorted it, blew a chip.  doubt battery but check everyhing before replacing the deck.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ahh well then I assume you probably haven't hooked up a diagnostics tool either then
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i agree with you 100%
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: emm obdII wont report deck problems.  not even sure it reports voltage issues to components
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it should report voltage issues
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, done with my snack, time to go peek at stuff :p
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but a simple multimeter can find a voltage problem :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: love all the comp techs troubleshooting a car issue :P
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: exposed circuitry in badly-designed electronics is sensitive to reactive gasses: HCl Cl.  Muriatiac acid (HCl) is used in some car shops, and HCl likes to turned copper a deeper bluegreenblack 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I could get access to diagnostic tools but I'd have to harass my brother-in-law and drive across town
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: rad  you can get obdII bluetooth, hooks to smart phones for about $15
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: troubleshooting is troubleshooting .. nearly the same procedure no matter what your dealing with .
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: True
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: these days cars are basically computers with a few extra moving parts attached
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: just different words for things that screw up exactly teh same way lol
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: onet some of us might be gear heads :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the dvd remote stops working, maybe the remote circuitry was eroded by stray bleach gas from the laundry
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I wouldn't say I am a gearhead, just a generalist hobbist
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: or the kids dropped it in the toilet and never told you.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I can replace a head gasket but I don't know car electronics at all
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emm nods at Masrok.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: Emm, as somoene who just put a 8" lift and dropped a 5.7 V8 in my truck, i sort of qualify. electrical issues, i'll fight em till I give up and replace a part.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: onet, amen
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: electrical does suck bad .. i run new wires pretty fast into a problem .. its not worth the time to find the issue most of the time .
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: and with the prices on decks now-a-days, faster to replace the deckk.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: actually looking at decks now for my next project
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: most things are now. I just like fixing strange things
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you have an electronics bench you could just plug the deck in there, but if you had electronics bench I doubt you would be asking for help on here
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: mm  :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: don't happen to live in pittsburgh?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: don't keep HCl in the house, or risk turning all those shiny copper water pipes into cruddy blue-green color
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: or you know keep it sealed properly :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: Pittsurgh. I'd never root for the penguins!
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: who lives in Pittsburgh? My Steelers are from Pittsburgh!
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: sealed properly - hah - unlikely
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I live in pittsburgh currently, I am an engineering PhD student at CMU
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite goes ooOOooOOoo at Emm.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: engineers .. the bane of mechanics existance.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Judging from the electronics bench, I'm guessing electrical?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: well if you have an issue near Reading I can fix it. I just am lazy as heck and won't travel. Also, things are hard to fix over the internet
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: Raded, another option find a junk yard, buy a use deck from them. swap it out for cheap and see if issue persists before getting a whole new deck
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Ooo another PA guy!
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the extremely slow leak of HCl from the sealed bottle is enough to turn the color of copper pipes
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: actually I am currently an "Engineering and Public Policy" student, but I have a background in civil and environmental, and electrical computer, plus worked as a network engineer for a decade
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: What, exactly, is a deck in this context?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: lotsa pittsburgh people here
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the unit that sits in the dashboard
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: arnica a replacement stero
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: his radio unit
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: single DIN and doubel DIN decks :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: speaking of tech. any suggestion on where to get some non aluminum headers?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: budget?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: was hoping to go online, if anynoe new of a decent spot
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: HCl usually comes from the store double-sealed: a bottle inside a sealed unresealable thick-plastic bag.  once that plastic bag is cut open, the bottle cap seal won't do the job.  There is likely even some leakage through the unopened uncut plastic bag - negligible though.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: try goood old JC whitney
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: just had the dreaded Ford curse and blew out a spark plug, tapped and sleeved it but i know another one will happen
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when storing paints, some store the paint cans upside down, since right-side up, the cans of paint eventually dry out
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: this summer I am actually trying to assemble some basic woodworking tools to teach my daughter how to do some basic woodworking, but I haven't done any woodworking in so long and the last time I did it was sans powertools
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: woodworking, measure twice cut once...or my method, measure 5 times, cut 4 times, buy new wood and start over :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: debating whether to teach her on hand tools the same way I learned, but I think some power tools might be too cool to pass up.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: Start with hand and then work the power tools in.  good on you though for teaching her.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: before turning a non-empty paint-can upside down, be sure the lid on the paint-can is secure and sealing in the paint
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I am a firm believer in Heinlein's generalists speach, except for the blatant sexism of it :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: before turning a non-empty paint-can upside-down, stop and don't do it.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i mean seriously, why would you need to turn a paint-can upside-down?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not so Smooth Tech: paint looks better on the other side.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: They make better stools that way
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you want to store paint several years, and not rebuy the paint later: properly sealed, upside down, in a dry location (moisture like to rust through those paint-cans)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I have no idea why upside-down, the rest makes sense
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: welp, definitely not the fuse, and everything around the battery looks great.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: right-side up, the paint solvents escape through the lid
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: unless my unused mirror defroster fuse that also looked fine was also bad
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: and the area around the lip gets rusty. If it is premuim paint, and I know I will really use it (exterior siding e.g.), I use plastic containers from the paint store.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: upside-down, the paint solvents do not escape as the paint seals the lid
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: raded find a junk yard, see if you can find a similar mazda deck on the cheap.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, I might do that this weekend
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if not, $90 on ebay
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: if it's the deck, then you can decided to keep the cheap or upgrade
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'd keep the cheap. my biggest I love the setup.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: didn't delete enough words there
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: what was the vehicle model again? 2012 mazda cx3?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mazda3
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: non-bose radio
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: double or single DIN?  just looking at the mount for it now
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: oh, it has an optional integrated model as well. (please say not integrated)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think double but not sure
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: single DIN about 1.5" high, Double DIN about 3" high
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: disintegrated seems to be the problem, no?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just velcro a boombox to the dashboard.  problem solved
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: if it's not the integrated one, you are in luck. fairly easy to swap out.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: iPhone in pocket
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: after you get proper placement, i recommend you epoxy it to the dash
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mine looks identical to this, but it's a single CD player and the buttons are slightly different color: http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-MAZDA-3-RADIO-6-DISC-CD-PLAYER-BBM466ARXB-/322111619701?fits=Make%3AMazda|Model%3A3
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in case of accident, safer
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: Raded, easy peasy.  i'd check a junk yard first. someone has to have crashed your model car recently :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I can only hope so
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (vultures)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: weird that the only version of it I can find on ebay has wrong colored buttons.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just use your favorite nail polish to paint them
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oh here we go. $68, free shipping: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-12-Mazda-3-MP3-CD-Satellite-Radio-Receiver-OEM-LKQ-/191871632625?hash=item2cac70c4f1:g:VXAAAOSwcL5XNdYJ&vxp=mtr
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: Raded, not a bad price either.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not at all. might be worth the extra couple of bucks to save a trip to the pick n pull :p
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and what if that identical car-radio also does the same
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: then I suck it up and take it to the dealership
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toetag Tech: bis spaters all and good luck Raded.  we are all counting on you. :)
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded tosses Toetag up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does anything else go wrong with Mazda vehicles other than the car-radio-stereos
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sometimes they turn into decepticons
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: Not really.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how long does an undriven Mazda car take to deplete to a flat car battery
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: trick question, does a mazda ever go undriven?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: apparently yes, when somebody is indisposed
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: seemsd car-electronics are badly-designed battery-current guzzlers
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mahasamatman shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: Depends on the car, and depends on the battery.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: Do you suspect a bad ground, or short in the vehicle?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a lot of current in a car battery -- and if a car-battery goes flat in a week, that is extremely bad circuit design
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: also if it has a car-alarm, it will drain faster.  get a jump starter.  you can charge batteries from inside, or jump it from the hood.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I have a car, approaching 50 years old admittedly, which will drain it's battery overnight, but will run all day long.
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: That isn't necessarily true. I left my '88 accord in storage for almost 18 months with a viper 2 and it cranked over first try. 
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: What's the voltage at rest, and under load?
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the '88 is likely without those new-fangled electronics
T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: battery died after 6 weeks, not 1 week
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: hrmm . so this isnt an important question more of a challenge to myself question.  at the bottom of catacombs where the twister is .. is it possible to get mapper to loop through all 4 wings whenever i have a monster down in here to hunt?
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: not sure what you mean
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Basically, he wants to run north path, then get back to twister, run east path, back to twister, etc.
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: well this spot has 4 maze exits to wings of maybe 8 rooms each . so every reset or whatever it switches around .. so its it possible to make mapper ignore exit mismatches and just do circles down here to find the mob.
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yes what arcid sayd
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And the answer is pretty much no, not without creating some bot out of it.
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah the mapper alone won't do that
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the mapper has no "auto-maze-solver"
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it's not a non-computable thing though
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ahh . fair enough.  im not sure on how the exit mismatch stuff all works into it yet . 
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Best way to work that, Masrok, is to make note of two unique mobs in each extension so that when you get back to the twister (no matter how many times it's been reset), you can hunt a mob that is in the place you need to get to. Of course, doesn't work well if you don't have hunt at the moment.
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: ignore exit mismatch is a bit risky. you're telling the mapper to believe the exits do not change. if they in fact change you'll get movement failures when going through the room
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ahhhh hunt something in the wing.  nice.  thats easy enough
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh yeah that's always a very nice way of figuring one's way through a maze: hunt something that's in your destination
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: is there a room you know where exit mismatch is something wanted .. so i can see it ?
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: see an example of when its wanted i mean.
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: oh i just read the patch notes for exit mismatch . i get it now . thanks guys .
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so is there a way to extender help
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: bah .. delete
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: mush clint work on mac?
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: if you use wine
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: hrm wine for mac, dont know mac just throwing around for light weight laptop
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Anyone know the amount of data downloaded in one hour (estimate)?
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: like, by playing Aard?
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't have any solid numbers but I'd estimate it's significantly under 1MB/hour
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you're on a MCCP enabled client, the data usage is pretty insignificant
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: very much under 1MB/hour  
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nod, I was going to say maybe around 150KB/hour but I wasn't sure :p
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Thanks, all I needed to know....something with mobile data...firewall.....work......you know :()
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Been connected for 3 hours 17 minutes... bytes in: 729,718. Bytes out: 88,821.
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can see bytes in/out with "mccp" command
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: ur Atari 2600 uses more data than Aard .. 
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: thanks :) 
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for last 30 minutes: 158k in, 190k out, saving   : 87.92%.
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mine comes out to be 4152.28 bytes per minute. :p
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there's a reason why young Raded, armed with a 14.4k modem, went to MUDs :p
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: Atari Baby  :P
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ok . now someone needs to hack mushclient onto a dreamcast .
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so 1 hour of Netflix uses about the same amount of data as 4000 hours of Aard
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 12,000 if you're in HD
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: So much fun with almost no data...more is less :)
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: value/byte for Aard   :)
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: What is it called in *nix where the window with the mouse in it takes focus and is there a way to obtain that behavior in Windows?
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: focus on mousover
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: something like that
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I've seen it referred to as 'focus follows mouse' and 'sloppy focus'. Honestly don't know if windows can do it or not, I've been on linux too long
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I think I found it: Control Panel\Ease of Access\Ease of Access Center\Make the mouse easier to use -> Check Activate a window by hovering over it
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: And that is greta when one monitor is Linux and the other is Windows
T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Or marilyn
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: ugh 2 hours of a virus scan and nothing yet, why did i download music last night while drunk 
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: they hide viruses and trojans (virii) in music - digital music is bad
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: That's why you use Linux instead of Mac or Windows
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: yeah we know that, dosnt mean while i was ddrunk i wasnt trying to download sublime 40oz of freedom 
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: if i could get a copy of something that was under 1gig i'd install linux now
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: unfortuantly i have a metered connection at 1gig allowance a day
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: listening to too much digital music may impair aural-mental-abilities
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: You mean a slimmed down version of Linux?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: yes, not super slimm though.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I think you need an arboretum to fix your aural-mental damages
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you really consider installing Linux - there are distros that allow you to do minimal install, later you can just install more packages
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: the destro has to be under 1 gig,  
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: to download.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Most distros have a 'light' version:
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7-x86_64-Minimal-1511.iso
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: talking about linux distros, what's the smallest distro recommended for digital audio, and that can run Jriver media?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: to put on a very cheap headless pc..something like a very cheap android box reconverted to linux
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I believe Damn Small Linux would suffice, if you only need to play audio
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damn_Small_Linux
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Doesn't look like they are still actively supporting it though
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: So it might not support that file format
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: i'll give it a try... not using anything fancy anyway... all FLAC
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: maybe ill just take the laptop to town and still somewifi sometime and download ubuntu
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Linux sold-out and became bloatware
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Heheh Damn Small Linux is only 50MB
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and if the next step up is more than a GB - unbelievable
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Actually -- This is probably a better option for you Ullin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhi_Linux
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Quite a bit bigger, but definitely going to be easier to use
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I doubt that Damn Small Linux has a GUI you'd be able to use
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "Bodhi" is sanskrit
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Bodhi_Darma Bodhi_Linux Bodhi_Sattva
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (Dharma)
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: hrm malware mounted a iso and created a drive name, 
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: instead of installing Linux you can use Windows XP mode or get VMware and some Linux appliance
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Yeah, running a VM could work -- But it depends on what you're trying to do and the specs of your desktop/laptop
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: you would have to ensure that you only used the VM to access data downloaded by the VM to help prevent haxored data from infesting the host machine. 
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: If the music files contained Windows malware and were downloaded directly to a folder that the host machine user has access to, then they play that file using a vulnerable Windows installation, they'd still get hacked and the VM would be pointless towards preventing malware from infecting Windows
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: lol that took me way too long to write out
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Shouldn't have had that dance with maryjane
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: are the winklewinkle plugins outdated at this point?  Trying to get the mapper extender working and it's calling database columns that don't seem to be there.. maybe I'm missing some kind of database setup script?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: aye, someone updated it to work
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: ah, do you know what that project is called or where I can find it?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: I was working on coding something similar but no reason to reinvent the wheel
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: i think it was nofka
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: hold on I will remember in a moment who it was, it is in his finger
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: still waking up, drinking coffee
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: haha, no problem
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: nokfah
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: he likes his job a little to much
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: is this a bad thing? my friend hates it and has had 15 jobs. the same ones btw:P
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It is not an issue, he just does. I love my job! I do stupid things like that all the time, I just don't post them on the internet
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: well, this was a news for me. if it didn't have 1m views, i would have put my pc next to refridgerator some day
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: any reason why the bigmap is not updating to a local map on mushclient? it seems to be stuck viewing the world map and won't go to the local map upon entering an area
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: whats the antivirus of choice nowadays? I just want antivaral protection no add on crap. Avast has been annoyimg lately wanting me to add said crap.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: free or pay?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: been using free, I'd consider pay if it was worth it
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: for free, as per pcmag, panda, avast and avg are top 3
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: AVG has been around a long time .. if that hepls  
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: for pay, webroot, bitdefender, and kaspersky are best
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: again, this is as per pcmag
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I'm very partial to nod32
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: avg free is pretty good
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but resource heavy
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: can't have everything 
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: avg used to bog my machine to a crawl, avast is just nag heavy
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: what is the enemypct field in the gmcp char.status?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The percentage of health remaining for the enemy.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: the percentage of hp who you are fighting has left.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Should be all on teh GMCP page on teh wiki
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am trying to find it on the wiki
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I was until it was answered at least
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: it doesn't say it explicitly so I was questioning it
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: can mapper cexit handle options where you have choices, like join the light/dark in flying citadel?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: yes for sure
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: html5 js opacity: fillstyle uses values 0-1, getimagedata gets the value as 0..255. anybody familiar with this mess? is the fillstyle just rounded to 8-bit integer then?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so hrmm this is in ww mapper extender.  is there a quick and easy way to enable mob tracking the mapper database ?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: -- add mob to room mapping
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm sure there's a way but I doubt it's quick and easy
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: it seems its already there but just turned off.. guess ill poke around in the code.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: line 1316 in winkle winkle mapper extender . there is a chunk of code there that to my dumb eyes seem to be about building a mob database.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: When I used s&d it captured mob stuff automagicly. It then used that information for CP/Quest/GQ to guess the best location for that mob or where it was last
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: whats hte command for that ?  it seems the search protocol isnt obvious to my dumb .. err .. face
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: no command that I know of.  
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: im not talking about a cp search . that stuff all works . 
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: imo the biggest problem for a mob database (essentially what this would be) capturing automatically is reconciling mob shortnames with mob keywords
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: there are two DB what s&d uses for mob names. WinkleWinkle_MobSubs.db and WinkleWinkle_MobToRoom.db
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ooooo.   
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: mob subs attempts to guess that scrambled mob name or what worked before.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that said, you could do my labor-intensive method of creating individual aliases to go to no-where or annoying mobs :p
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: IIRC it worked sometimes, sometimes not.  It was a cool regex string though.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Strazor is agreeing with that Bishoujo Raded person again...
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: this is really mostly of a "
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: how can you tell what a help file for a plugin is?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: q r
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: bah
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: help files are built into plugins, if they have one.  In Mush you can hit "Shift+Control+p" and it will pull up your pluing list.  If the plugin was done correctly you can click on edit to view the plugin code.  You can also go the plugin file directory and open the plugin in a text editor.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: thanks strazor, sorry, cp, distracted ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slasher Phy Tech: is there any android client that supports mapper or s&d?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slasher Phy Tech: bah
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, stupid excel problem I can't figure out because I rarely use excel: want to make a pie chart showing percentages. I have two columns of data: one column is either YES or NO, the other column is race. what magic do I need to do to show the percentage of yes/no for each race?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: excel won't do the sums for you
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You want to do a countif, look it up.
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yah, first do the sums, then you can chart them
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: got it, thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: probably quickest a pivot table on the data
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: being an excel poweruser is a very sad thing I believe...it's like being the most powerful supernewbie on aard
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I really should just learn how to use pivot tables
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: they are pretty useful, but sometimes it's quicker to DYI with sumif/countif etc. calculated fields became too fiddly and irritating
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: im running on my surface 3 and suddenly mush client is showing a really screwed up map in the main window and not in the map client. it refreshes every tick... anyone know what's going on with that?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: i'm also suddenly seeing {chan ch=tech] prefixes before any channel messages
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: not sure, but try tags off and map off
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: map off doesn't work, it still refreshes each tick. trying tags off right now
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: still refreshes each tick ._. it's just odd because it happened suddenly while playing and wasn't like that before :/
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: new plugins?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: nope. no changes. when i was playing earlier, it was totally normal. randomly during my session, it started doing this
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: type tags, and see which ones are on
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: so, this is interesting. i typed map off yet 'tags' still shows YES under map option...
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: tag
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: just trigger the tags
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: tag shows the full list
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: and that list shows map is on even though i shut it off
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: I mean, type tags on, then type tags off
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you right-click your mini-map (ascii) does it show Also show map in main output checked?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: mini map wont load in the plug in. it's blank
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try reloading your chat and mini map windows
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: main screen is just keeping spammed with a messed up ascii map every tick >-> how do i reload the windows?
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the map would stop it from showing in main window
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: go to plugins - find Aardwolf Ascii Mapper and do "reinstall" button
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: same for Aardwolf chat capture window
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: ah HA! i had triggers disabled
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: enabaling them fixed it
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: for some reason ._. thank you all!
T3/r7/2016-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: in MUSH, in the triggers GUI, there's a box for "Enable Trigger Sounds" - is there a way to toggle that with an alias?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is it reliable if i get a splitter for my cat5 cable? or should I get a small switch or hub? Basically I want to go from 1 computer in my room, to 2
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: just get a 4 port switch or something
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: don't see why a splitter wouldn't work...
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: switch, not splitter
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you cant just split cat5
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: switch or hub
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: you would have collisions out the wahoo lol
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: ahh true...
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: just make one go wireless :P
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: you can get a switchj for like 10 bucks lol
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: my desktop is wireless but It gets a ton of dropped packets, so I ran a cable from my router to my room (router is downstairs)
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: unless you're going to be gaming on them both...
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the "lol" means switches cost more than 10$
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: the second computer is a rack mounted server a friend gave me
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: run another wire next to it hehe
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: no gaming on it
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: probably more like $30
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: splitter works if you dont care about speed I guess
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I'm pretty sure it doesn't, period.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ill probably just move my desktop back to wireless and cut back on my gaming for awhile
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: If you want to put multiple devices on the same physical wire, stick to 10base2.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: or ill go shove the server behind the router *shrug*
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I don't think ethernet over UTP ever supported anything except PTP connectivity.  Even hubs are more than just electrical bridges.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: only 10base2 i know of was on coax
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Don't forget thicknet.  Vampire taps make the day brighter.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Or possibly DO forget it, if you like sanity.  But anyway.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: just because you said you couldn't ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-5-Port-Ethernet-Desktop-TL-SF1005D/dp/B000FNFSPY/ref=sr_1_31?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1463721565&sr=1-31&refinements=p_n_intended_use_browse-bin%3A9647499011%2Cp_85%3A2470955011
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I would not recommend it though lol
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hey TP Link is quality IMO
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: yeah, but that isn't one of their better ones...I just found something that was 10 bucks lol
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have a router and 2 wireless cards from them, good stuff high throughput
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: 100 meg in 2016 ain't though   :p
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: shoot, router was like $25 and wireless pcie $13
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh yea true, wireless cards are 150 heh
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but their router os is good stuff
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: that took 5 minutes of time that I Wasn't cp'ing, damn you for making me stop and look that up rofl
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: the server is running windows server 2003, should I keep it with that or load up a linux server?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: ditch 2003, not supported anymore
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: you are asking for trouble
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ubuntu for server all the way
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: I was thinking ubuntu ... hey look the server has a driver failure =/
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: hi guys, when someone pages me it doesnt make a sound anymore, what can i do to fix that?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: isn't c# cross platform?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not for anything with a GUI
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: morgase: do you have a beep sound set?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: has anyone written an enhancement to the mapper script to allow editing of existing cexits when you want to change one part of it without remaking the whole thing?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: oh i have a bear growling.wav sound set it worked for a while til i updated client
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make sure you have the Enable Beeps box checked in output settings
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: ahh ill check
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: i cant find that
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: press Alt+5, it's at the top
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: its enabled
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you get a page from someone else or are you testing by paging yourself?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: paged by other people and it doesnt work
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hm. it works for me. if you click the Test button next to where you set the sound file does it play?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morgase rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: the sounds also work for triggers i set for people logging in and my quest trigger, just page that doesnt make a sound
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: hey fiendish, is there a way to set a cexit remotely?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define remotely
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: from my manor
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume you mean not from your manor
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or rather without leaving your manor
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i want to set a cexit in firenation from my manor
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no I don't think there's a good way, but if you send me the code to add that to the plugin and a reason for why it should be added then I'll add it if the reason makes sense
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ok, was just wondering. tyvm
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: i found the solution, thanks for the help
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morgase beams with pride at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: i ticked the regular expression and the keep evaluating boxes now it makes a sound
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: on what?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: when you hit control shift 8, i opened my page trigger, clicked on those two boxes and bam it works
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you have a trigger for pages?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morgase rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't need a trigger to beep on getting paged
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: oh well
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you just need to activate the check box where it says "Sound to play when receiving a 'bell' character" in output settings
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and then choose a sound there
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: when you get paged it sends you a bell character
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean, you can do it your way with a trigger too. You just don't actually _need_ to make a trigger for it
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgase Tech: oh, someone taught me this way when i couldnt get it to beep before
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: *shrug* I mean if it works it works right?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morgase rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you close the bast spellup window, how do you get it back?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: type bsp help
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok and then what
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: i think its bsp reset
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and if that doesn't work?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: sorry thats all i got lol
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess I can force it
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: reinstalling normally works for me
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no I had to do \\\WindowShow("aaaf0c555a44169e0f1d9674_bast_spellup_help")
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: except that's just the help?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it looks like I just don't have a miniwindow for the spellup anymore
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: better to reinstall the spellup miniwin then
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I did
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: is it hidden somewhere under one of your other miniwins
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess I'll go delete the state file
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ya i suspect the miniwin is out of your screen
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no reason for that to be the csae
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: case
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just gone
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh maybe this one..
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: got it with \\\WindowShow("eeef0c555a44169e0f1d9674_SpellUp")
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: ah ok that will help in the future
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so the problem is that it's "mspell" and not "bsp"
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so "mspell reset" might have worked
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope. doesn't help. 
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least I know how to find the id of the miniwin now though with "mspell windows"
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there we go. mspell spellup show
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so my friend gave me a rack mounted server, I installed ubuntu server 16.04LTS, when i start it up all my monitor says is out of range, I tried finding solutions online, they all say to hit a keystroke or something to get into a terminal or something, but it does not give me time, anyone have experience with this that could help me?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can switch to console
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just ctrl-alt-F1 
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe F2 if X server is on F1 
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, you can switch to other resolution using ctrl-alt-+ IIRC 
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: I have tried spamming ctrl+alt+F(1-9) no matter what my screen still says out of range
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Have you tried alt+f4? =D
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ctrl-alt-backspace should kill X server
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: basically, i think you need to use a live cd to make a change to your grub.cfg to switch it to console mode then reboot your server install
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: there a plugin the mushclient that puts notes in a separate window?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that it is rather GDM greeter - so server boots then tries to provide GUI
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: spamming f keys worked today dont know why :/
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: is there a software program to monitor network traffic of my all connected devices?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can use Wireshark
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lemke Tech: i believe nagios can take of that too
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: checking. ty.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lemke Tech: nagios isn't a packet sniffer afaik but can do things like let you know what is down and other network management tools. I haven't dug into it too much yet 
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all depends on what you mean by "monitor network traffic"
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: if you're trying to see when your kid watches the pron, wireshark isn't gonna help as much lol
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you by all connected devices means a network - then you may be interested in LibreNMS or The Dude
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, nagios wouldn't have anything to do with monitoring traffic, but it can grab stuff like bandwidth usage from your router's SNMP to see the numbers (but not the destinations)
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: my internet speed reduced greatly now. i want to see what consumes it.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: pleny of routers have built in traffic monitors
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: i have hg658 v2 if it helps:)
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: just pulled up the guide.  you can control bandwith to specific devices on that.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: can you link if possible please
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i can link the manual if you... k
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: well i cant figure out right now.  ill be home in 10 minutes.  im on my phone remote desjtop into my computer.  lol.  just google what you gave me.  its like the 3rd result.  a pdf manual
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: and wife iw back in car.  driving so afk for 10
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ok here it is https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjQsvSJlOnMAhVG1h4KHZ8RDssQFghGMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload-c.huawei.com%2Fdownload%2FdownloadCenter%3FdownloadId%3D53527%26version%3D166948%26siteCode%3Dworldwide&usg=AFQjCNG6ZTv1FZFwr_B2fAD9Sg6qz_OXFw&sig2=yfYGdCFyHlsJkoKhbY3hzA
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: afk again. 
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Should learn to either short-link it, or grab the actual link and not the Google search link...
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: i couldnt figure it out anyway from taht guide. but my internet seems ok now.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: do you have a password on your wifi or is it open.
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: where can I get that copy of blowtorch that is made for aard? I cannot find it 
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you better use the standard blowtorch. I heard the Aardversion has a few problems
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: I do use it, and I would like to try the other as this one has issues too, i am currently on it
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: I make an alias that says 'alias w open west :: west' (semi ofcause) but it only do it the first time, and when i look under alias afterwards it just say 'w       : open west' Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: try sfarting the line out with ;. ao ;alias w open west;west (no doubles)
T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne is on phone. excuse typos.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: dude i've been trying to install ms visual studio for 3 days now
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it doesn't install nor uninstall.. keeps getting stuck near finish
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you just need faster internet connection than 28k
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: good old days of dialing up
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a big download
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Category 6 Stormblades Tech: I have a problem with masaki's EQualizer plugin, I have stored a level 80 set called eighty and I have nothing worn, when I tpe 'meq wear eighty 80' I get this on the screen -    {-=No equipment switched, maybe the same set was used=-}    help please?
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahem.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: why when i have a portal to sendhia mapped into mapper .. i do a xrt and it still runs to vidblain THEN pulls out the portal and enters it .?
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: try clearing vidblain help set
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: xset vidblain to toggle
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: LOL . ok . it got better .  ill have to find why it wants to run e3s11e now.  
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: hrmm . hotel
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ohhhhh im a derp... now that i have that sendhia portal i can set C exits to all the other spots in vidblain!  righ!?!
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what for? 
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: err .. i dunno?   are the rest of the places unused?
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Handground Anaristos Tech: eureka :) In the old days we did that with the Star Wars portal :)
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have defined mapper portal then mapper will use that portal to get to other places
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: think his idea is to take that portal no matter where the location
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you do not use mush
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Handground Anaristos Tech: you still have Darklight and Omen Tor
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if you use mush read "mapper help portal" and add portals to mapper, then mapper will use them to calculate paths
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: don't crush his dreams ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yah i have all that.  
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cexits are required if you need special action to get somewhere
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ive been using extender for vidblain auto mapper navigation .  and now that i have the portal i had to turn that off.  so i guess mapper will autonavigate vidblain now that i have a static spot instead of random location entry.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, just test it with : xrt omentor
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: can you delete just 1 cexit without deleting them all for an rea?
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: right click room in mapper window, delete cexit -> choose cexit to be deleted
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: is there a way to step through what mapper is doing ?  when i xrt vidblain it teleports in then tags on a run e3s11e.  
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: when i do xrt sendhia it performs the same as xrt vidblain.  teleports me into send then does run run e3s11e.  but if im inside sendhia it just zaps me to the beginning like it should.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: that should be just one run.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: you probably have "vidblain hack" on
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: its off.  :(
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: there's no way to get a speedwalk from outside vidblain to a anywhere inside vidblain because your way into vidblain lands you into a random room
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: unless you have a portal to somewhere in vidblain
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: wtf .. it was off .. but must have not worked .. i just toggled the option on and off and now its working like it should.  gg
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yah i have a tpportal into sendhia . it just wasnt working like it should with xrt.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: all better now .
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: Using S&D for CPs and for certain areas, it runs to the wrong area with a similar name. How would I go about fixing that?
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalinth Tech: if it's a dying in too high of an area type of thing you could purgezone on the higher level area
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: you can set a level lock on the higher level area entrance
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: its using a shortcut through that area .. just setup a level lock on the entry 
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: That would work for lab -> labyrinth instead of Chaprenula's Lab but not for Paradise -> Hedgehog's Paradise instead of Paradise Lost, I think
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if you set a level lock on the entrances of the area mapper will not enter there unless your the appropriate level.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: Is there a solution that would work for areas with similar level ranges, such as Imperial -> Reme instead of Imperial Nation? If it isn't software-related I suppose a portal is the best way?
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: how would you expect it to know what you mean if it's the same word in each
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: It's an area in a CP target list. Each area has a different keyword
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I don't think the plugin is stil lunder development, so don't think there would be a way to make it prioritize cp mob zones over non cp mob zones...portal ois your best best
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: the solution to that is use the proper keyword .. areas keyword says :reme for reme .. imperial for imperial nation.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: s&d even tells you the keyword lol
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: nod.  
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: 'xrt imperial' sends me to Reme
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: because of your level
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: mapper knows your gonna get blown up in imperial nation
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if you really want to go there .. type xrt imperial nation
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: My problem with xrt sending me to the wrong area with a similar name seems to be fixed by using 'xset mark' to properly mark the first room in the correct areas. May all issues be fixed this easily
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No. A curse upon that notion!
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: time to shut this channel down
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: just set it up for a rick roll trigger whenever anyone asks a question.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: If this was only for issues regarding plugins it could probably be automated. Honestly, I'm not used to software that actually works. I might need another few months to adjust
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: whats the command to reload a plugin so i can set a trigger up
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you would need the plugin ID, and use a function from command line
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or file - plugins - find, reinstall button
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: or ctrl+alt+p, select, and click reinstall
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yah . i know about the menu . its just semi annoying .
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: er ctrl+shift+p
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you are playing with it, make an alias for \\\ReloadPlugin("pluginID")
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: what my lazy bones really wants instead of a con window is just a numbered look window to attack with.  
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use a reload and load alias, for when you break and need to read from file :P
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: fix a plugin that adds numbers before the mobchar lines
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: thats all i want . i dont even need the window just a trigger or whatever to attack the 1st thing . or second thing .. etc . 
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i should just figure out how to chop up conw into what i want.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: yes that is not too hard, make a plugin which parses the mobchar lines
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: and add a kill alias in the plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yah.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: sounds easy enough . itll take me a while.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: your plugin will need the kill names tho
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: you can get those from scan here
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: well consider window plugin already does a great job of sucking out the names.  but it con's everything all the time .. and i dont need that .
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i guess my question is .. are people really typing k (letter) for everything ?  if its the norm i guess i wont worry about it .
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: i think that is what most people do
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: i made a kill by number plugin for mushclient im experimenting with 
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: nice.  did you look at the guts of conwindow plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: it doesnt work in noscan rooms or on no scan mobs
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds botty :P
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: is it a bot to type 1 instead of k (letter)
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: its not a bot lol i can just type k 2
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: and it kills mob 2 in the room
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what! so they second mob you didn't even attack and you're hitting it anyway?! bot!
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan :P
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm kidding
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: or just type k and it kilss the forst
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: first
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i do have a bad spam finger tho .. ill get caught smashing (whatever special attack) tooooooo much .. be nice to build a plugin to limit my drummer hands to 1 keypress per 3 seconds or whatever.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: macro for aoe will save even more time
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: says the big bad tanky t9
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yah once i get hammerswing back its easier l. 
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: but meh.  
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: that doesnt solve me hammering on my enter key like its my boss's forehead.
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: and i have a mechanical keyboard .. so it has a satisfying noise with it also . 
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: anyone know how to have a trigger enable another trigger, and reverse of that, disable a trigger?
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Handground Anaristos Tech: what client
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Handground Anaristos Tech: EnableTrigger(<triggername>,true) (false to disable)
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: EnableTrigger ("trigger name", true/false)
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ya take the speces out if you want it to be less pretty
T3/r7/2016-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: ty!
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helps you Level Tech: does anyone know about setting up screen readers on mush client
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: clarify?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helps you Level Tech: pyra is trying to setup her own readers she was useing on a mush client and now with aardmush she gets runtime errors
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is she using the MushReader plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: For all of you who loves mapping, plugins, triggers and so on. Here is the one thing that will do it all for you..Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACvNzAeQgEA
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: hugo, don't start, because once we start, you won't like it.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hugotski smiles happily.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: This would only save me a few seconds. But is there a way to reload a specific plugin with one command, instead of File > Plugins (select) > Reinstall > Close ?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: mush client?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ctrl+shift+p
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, many plugins put such a command into the plugin itself
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, not ctrl-shift-p
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's talking about a command which specifies the plugin to reload, not just how to open file -> plugins
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9615
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: like a shortcut to load a specific one?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast has reload commands in all of his stuff, using the plugins command
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: That should work, thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (which works because it's a separate plugin that gives you commands over all of his main plugins)
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: anyone have or know what happened to lunk's pot plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he removed it
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i think so, but this is  a nocurse channel...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: Anyone know of anything that fills that void?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i don't know what all it did but bast has a potion plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, it's board general, note read 26357 that says what happened to the scripts
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have an autoquaffer plugin, but it's just basic
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc he started with mine and added to it
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's just heal potions, for example, whereas he copypasted to add the other types, and added a few other features
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: yeah, I have onoitu2 potionquaffer with bottomfeeders changes...was hoping for sometihng with 1 or 2 features this doesn't have, although it is great.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the script that Bast includes with his stuff
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: it works very well...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: anyone have a prompt or bprompt they are especially proud of and would like to share?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Ido. It is the standard mud prompt :)
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan is agreeing with that Ayasinda person again...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: Works well for me too
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I added a quest timer and mob health to mine
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and it shows the double timer
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I just love that you are all such minimalists, and always chiime in with helpful comments ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I'm pretty boring with [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mm %Xtnl %d %bMOB] %l %L>%c for regular and [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mm %Xtnl %d %bMOB] %l %L>%c for battle
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: id pay a lot of qps for quality plugin that shows delays graphically. any takers?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What... delays?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yep
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That doesn't answer my question at all.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you asked "delays?" and i said "yes"
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I asked What... delays... as in "What delays are you talking about?"
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: every single one of them. and recoveries
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ah spell delays
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: recoveries are shown in the spellup plugins
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Use your words to describe what you're wanting.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: so a library that shows all the lag associated with a skill/spell?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nah, he wants a graph.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Apparently.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: well. be snarky. thats just gonna ruin my mood. 
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Be vague. That's gonna get you a lot of help.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: how do yall feel about vaguely snarky? 'cause im like, champion-level.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: ok. no biz
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: make tech great again!
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, by the initial question, I was thinking that you wanted it to regularly ping the MUD and graph your RTTs...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i could grind it into little specks ... oh wait, you said 'great'.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what "delays" means to me
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: UU
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Mannec, I heard someone pronounce the word vague as it had rhymed with egg what is up with that?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you sure they didn't weren't talking about your vag? }:>
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Oh I read RTTs wrong
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 59ms Avg: 63ms Max: 73ms}
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: round-trip times
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: pretty sure they got ahold of a bad batch of eagues.  food poisoning is no leffing matter.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: dunno how it'd work the best. each skill has a certain delay. i wanted to see whats in queue and whats the total
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 208.718/373.288/735.510/212.361 ms
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: and thats not lagging atm
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, for a certain definition of "not lagging"...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I did not go there
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: Is there something like telnet-GA/EOR in Aardwolf? Can't find in help topics/google.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why do you want that?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: short answer, no there isn't
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the lack of it is why we recommend ending your prompt with %c
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: I just want to detect prompt-line without regexp. Thanks for answer.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: detecting prompt lines is a path to sin
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are much better ways to do whatever it is you want to do
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: I want multiline triggers with checking against pack of lines between prompts
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: any particular pack of lines?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: multiline triggers are no problem without detecting prompt
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: and what should be logic? When they should be checked?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you expect the output
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it would help if we knew what you were trying to detect and do
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i want to make a bot that will detect and respond to my wife . so i can play aardwolf more.  
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I play Aardwolf because it's easy to talk to my wife while playing :p
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who wants to talk to their wife!?!?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I will talk to yours
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: WTB wife chat bot.  i usually only has to say . "sounds good"  and "yah ok"
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh that would be dangerous masrok...if that's what it says, then it'll be committing me to doing stuff
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: but it has to have alerts on it.  warning me that GMWIFE is aware of my botting and i need to intervene NOW>
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "honey, mow the lawn"..."yeah ok"..."do you want to eat tofu for dinner?"..."sounds good"...I hate that chatbot
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: There are many situations where some game event described in several consecutive lines, but they (almost) always placed between prompts. Line-per-line processing is rather artifficial, when prompt-per-promt just more correct.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the prompts aren't anything to do with what you should be triggering...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: multiple responses can happen between any single pair of prompts
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few of us here have written multi-line captures (Fiendish is the maintainer of the aard MUSHclient package)
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: yes, they just can help to find certain point for checking multiline triggers
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll catch a bunch of garbage that has nothing to do with what you want
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're the wrong thing to help find the point
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still say we'll be able to help better if we know what you're trying to catch and what you want to do with it
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you haven't yet given an example of one that you want to capture...I'd suggest looking at tags first, and the echo command for approximating tags in output which doesn't have MUD-controlled tags
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: detecting prompt is 100% doable without telnetGA, but your prompt should be terminated
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't even show prompts anymore
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but because of some Aardisms with prompts, it's much more complicated to trigger on prompt than to trigger on something controllable and consistent
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: fiendish made prompts obsolete
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prompts aren't obsolete (yet)
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know about obsolete. you can still see time left in double on your prompt
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: eh I trigger off my prompt for some things
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: why isn't everything gmcp'ed already?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I have a prompt that shows when Fiendish is online
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You gasp as you realize what he did.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes ooOOooOOoo at Oak Tender Arnica.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I dig it.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: Fiendish, I just explore different MUD servers and look on their GA/EOR support. On one server I saw ugly approach when TGA sent via separate send() call which leads to 200ms lag due to delayes ACK. Nothing special to Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: sound trigger of a woman moaning every time he speaks on tech channel.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Who doesn't have the fiendish online extension pack?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so anyway, back to Yeg. tell us an example of what you actually want to do and we'll tell you a good way to do it
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: working on the miniwin
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Yeg: I maintain that GA/EOR is a dumb feature for a mud server
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I disagree with Fiendish's assertion, but it isn't supported on Aard, and we have made workarounds because of it
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: Maybe true for Aard, where there a lot of tags, GMCP and others. But not for old codebases where triggers is the only way to grab some data.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and because of some failures in how MUSHclient is coded wrt packet processing)
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ga/eor
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: when I don't know, I just make up names
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard is the only thing being discussed...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mannec: telnet Go Ahead
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Georgia.. Error on Reconnect
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ah, i see.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but none of this is, and we have to get back to it, a description of what you're trying to do
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it lets the MUD say "I'm done sending stuff for the moment" after a prompt is sent, thereby letting your client process what has been given rather than waiting for a newline
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is a very standard thing which solves tons of issues...we solved it by simply recommending that people not use what has been standard on 90% of MUDs since the dawn of time
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm. in-band signalling was never one of my favorite things.  i was always more of a fan of xon/xoff.  
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xon/xoff has nothing to do with this...that's an "are you overwhelmed" thing, not "that's all I have right now" thing
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: actually, it was a modem joke.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: IAC WA XON?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the joke failed cuz it's also used in non-modem stuff...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: OK, let's say I want to grab all data available in prompt and (since it is large and ugly) replace it with tiny line of importnant numbers (or even hide it). Then I should add new-line in prompt and check every line for complex regexp. Or there is other way?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeg: what you would do is make your prompt that small one and not bother with the large ugly one...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "let's say I want to grab all data available in prompt" <- grab statmon instead or get from gmcp
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because pretty much all of the data that you're looking for from the prompt is available via GMCP
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but this business of "send me a big thing so that I can hide it and only show a small thing" why? just send the small thing.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: no, I want have mini-ouput docked bottom on my main window with all the data formatted beautifully in multiple lines/tables
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get it from gmcp
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what data are you looking to get?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because I'm pretty sure that everything you can send in a prompt you can get with gmcp
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, everything that would normally matter...can't get promptflags, etc.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess maybe not number of caught tells?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why prompt isn't quite obsolete
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: catching promptflags would make your prompt regex hilarious though
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: since they show first
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: much funnier without regex...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what you mean by they show first...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're after the prompt
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, preamble is "paste this at the top of the file", and postamble is "paste this at the bottom of the file"...leave those blank
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry what am I thinking of
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the vote reminder
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ah.  would have been much funnier if i hadnt flubbed the punchline.  'i was always more of a fan of rts/cts'
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Yeg: are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for anyone reading, I was wrong in my description of preamble/postamble anyway...it's a per-line setting and not per-file
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: no, I'm using JMC, old client from my childhood
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish whistles appreciatively.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume JMC doesn't do gmcp then?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: is it possible to design a plugin to interact with an external host .. like a google api?  yes im a derp and ask derp questions.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes masrok
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yes :D
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: now I added support of arbitrary telnet options via activescript
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard MUSHclient package and Bast both do that for their "check for updates" plugins
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: including gmcp, msdp and so on
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: aardwolf also doesn't do msdp
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: I know
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: masrok: two players who have made pretty extensive external-interaction plugins privately are Robbo and Arcidayne...they both have chatbots that they run which let you ask it things like weather in various cities, sports scores, etc.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: arcidayne also made his own updater
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: whoa .. its all done then . i was thinking of a plugin to use google api and translate chat for people like pushto.  its only 20 bucks per 1 million characters.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: sounds like i could chop shop some stuff up and get it done.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neither of them have released their plugins, but they would be good people to ask questions to
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: and not the whole of the mud .. just for tells . 
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course not the whole of the MUD...as we told you on q/a, only English is allowed on public channels ;-)
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: yah . got that . thats why an api to translate on the fly is good .  so the chat police dont attack.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Is Fiendish really a jerk?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: be careful with that, masrok - as soon as someone knows it costs you, they tend to do silly stuff.  cat /dev/sda >> /masrok.chat
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alzar: he's tied for the most non-jerk player on Aard
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (with Dexx)
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't listen to biker. I'm a terrible person. very mean. growl, snarl!
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Dexx is so nice I question whether or not he's human
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: some people are just like that
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I sometimes think that Fiendish is really a psychology professor's experiment, because it's not natural to be that freaking wholesome and selfless...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lobisomem nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so github changed it so that contributions to private repos show up in your timeline, but they still don't show contributions to non-primary branches *sigh*
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i've been told fiendish wrote abelinc
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish wouldn't write me to be this ornery...
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: everyone needs a foil
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's how you keep your sandwich fresh
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first outer inner last?
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sounds just like my sandwich
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: biker curses foiled again!
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I still use an archive.org version of the google code docs for the aardclient because the github version sucks so badly wrt navigation :P
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: github explicitly disables the markdown feature for automatic navigation tree generation
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's annoying as hell
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I figured it had to be something they disabled if you left it like that
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and bast still points to the wiki part from google code, but google code weirded that out with the archived version so it sucks just as badly...so I have abelinc.me/clientdocs and abelinc.me/bastdocs
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9721944/automatic-toc-in-github-flavoured-markdown is a sad story
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and https://github.com/isaacs/github/issues/215
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people always say stupid things like "just install this node.js package and process everything manually every time you make a change"
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as pushback to just not disabling the standard toc tag
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least their old markdown processor had it active upstream. I don't know about whatever they use now.
T3/r7/2016-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: so I downloaded a plugin that moves look to a miniwin...and it's not whosing anywhere...advice
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: how can you end an if then statement if you don't care about the else?  my if then did nothing but fire every second and forced my connection closed lol
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just end
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if foo then bar end
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: sighs, I forgot to end one of them lol
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lucron stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: am I missing something, <= is less than, no?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: http://lmgtfy.com
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: okay, thinking cap time.  I'm trying to make a timer that triggers every few seconds, checks a variable, and enables or disabled a trigger based on that variable.  mushclient.   It keeps trying to send the enable trigger command to the mud, not keeping it in the client
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need change "SendTo" (or similar) setting
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now probably you have "world" should be "script"
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: okay, checking that...cept I'm stuck in a noport/recall room with no exits lol
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I would fix that situation first.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: welp...it isn't doing anything rofl
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: try saying exit
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: oh, no, I got ou t of there, I meant the timer rofl
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: if I enter commands right into mushclient trigger window etc, is that lua?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depends on what you have selected in "send to" part
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and whether your script engine uses lua (IIRC you can also use python)
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: yeah, script is selected.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: bah, this is frustrating, it isn't error'ing, but I can't get it to output info to the window (not send to mud, just output) and I can't get it to disable the group of triggers I'm telling it to.  *stare
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: output should be easy: just Note("something to output")
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it does not work then you are doing something wrong
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: dammit trachx, can I just have your brain for like an hour?  I won't get it dirty, much, I promise. that worked.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: now I just have to figure out why the rest of it isn't working snickers
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Reason: processing alias "" << Why am I getting this when I try to xrt? Any ideas?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: whats the commands for the search and destroy help?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: extender help
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: thx
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: whats a good audio player for windows, groove music is pissing me off
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: if you have small mp3 library, Itunes is sort of decent. Large library, with flac monkey audio or foobar (or JRiver media if you feel like paying for the best)
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the "best" tinny noise is yet tinny noise
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: its not large but itunes makes my skin crawl
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: keep listening to your scratched stuff, or soon to be thinned/scratched xyliz
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: skin crawl, like nails across a chalkboard
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: then try foobar/monkey audio, both very decent, and good library features. far faster than itunes to browse
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: found windows media player, windows 10 keeps trying to use groove
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: i'll check those out
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilyria Tech: did you try google music?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: jriver media it's full suite and handles DSD, DXD, and video in any resolution
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I found a plugin to put con info into a miniwin, and it stops working constantly...anyone know of anything similiar that works?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It just needs updating on trigger patterns, I think. I rewrote it, though I'm not sure it's the same as the one you're using.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: the one I have was made by strazor.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He's online. Why don't you ask him about an update?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I did, thanks for the suggestion ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: what's the link for the updated s&d?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: where xrt works...
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8Uatd_2vBupfnlacldPcjd4Yy1mZnVzNEJHazlRNlpveEdPMkg5SVdBaXZnQm9VZGVVX2M&usp=sharing&tid=0B8Uatd_2vBupfmllQmlVaWNpZGVybUF1c2NKRktSMk5GV0J2Z0pCYnZiYnpqY1NRRUVpNFE#grid
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: sorry for the long link, i have it bookmarked to the drive itself
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: anyone ever gotten a timer to run a script to turn on/off a trigger?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i can do it in zmud, sortof.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: how different is it in muchclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: enuff that my method wouldnt work :/
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: sighs, first minecraft tried to get me to learn lua, now aard is trying to do the same... rofl
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im trying to install mcmyadmin on my server and i keep getting: bash: ./MCMA2_Linux_x86_64: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error ... while using the command ./MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 -setpass YourPasswordHere ... anyone know what would cause that, i am getting the file from the mcmyadmin website
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sounds like a corrupted file.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or endian problem or you do not have intepreter to run it
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is download link ?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i use: wget http://mcmyadmin.com/Downloads/MCMA2_glibc25.zip
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kafur Tech: is your server 32 bit?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kafur Tech: you need the 32 bit binary then
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone know audio really well? I have to design a new system for a classroom at school (homework) and I cant think of what I need basically I need to be able to split the audio between the divider of the room, I have speakers picked out just not sure how to control if the speakers send on one side of the divider only or both
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: sorry man, wish I could help you, but audio isn't my strong point.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah I have to take it for my major, and we dont learn all aspects of audio, and i chose a complex setup
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: 2 cans and some string should do you fine
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: I was thinking 3 cans
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: whoa there, let's not overcomplicate the setup.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locknar Tech: I mean I cant even get the client to trigger on --> TICK <--
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: here is a trigger i use:
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: Trigger: *DISARMS you*
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: Send: g 1665230953
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: Send: g 1665230953;ho 1665230953
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: Send to: Execute
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locknar Tech: I mean I cant even get the client to trigger on --> TICK <--
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locknar Tech: oops
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: i don't know how to get a trigger to fire every tick, but i'm sure there is a way
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: there are also "Timers", but I haven't used those and don't know what they do
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locknar Tech: i mean it's not what I want, I was just trying to use something consistent to practice making triggers
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: get hungry / thirsty .
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: go to a zone with a mobprog that talks. 
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: die . use a portal .. WHOOOOOSHHH!!
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tealkine Tech: Im running MUSH with wine, but occasionally the backspace will not work, has anyone encountered this problem in the past?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: I never had a problem with the backspace when using Wine + Ubuntu
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i use wine a lot .. my typing suffers when i do.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tealkine Tech: Ok, well thanks anyway :D
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: Anyone know why the GMCP map seems choppy/laggy under Windows, but runs very smooth under Wine + Ubuntu?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: i copied over the exact same folder from Ubuntu to Windows
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: on the same computer
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: you mean the gmcp mapper ?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: maybe a font problem?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: mine runs fine on windows
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Locknar If you are using the MUSH GUI, try setting the Regular Expression checkbox. That is put in at the top: --> TICK <--, check that box, and put in something in Send: like: --> TOCK <--
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: im using mushclient
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: i'll check out the fonts... maybe it's trying to use an ubuntu font
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Locknar If you are using the MUSH GUI, try setting the Regular Expression checkbox. That is put in at the top: --> TICK <--, check that box, and put in something in Send: like: echo --> TOCK <--
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tealkine Tech: The fonts are fine, its just the BS key will start scrolling through type text instead of removing letters
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tealkine Tech: ^typed
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: i think the insert key does that behavior
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: modifies . whatever. 
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Packets: Sent = 55, Received = 41, Lost = 14 (25% loss) to my router :(
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wifi?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Yeah mang, some crazy interference and I have no idea where it's coming from.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 2.4 GHz band blows, switch to 5 GHz
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: see that blue honda outside?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: It's 5ghz.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: There is some other source of signal interference. Just not able to pin it down and it's sporadic.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: your neighbor has a 5gz device and he only turns it on to make you crazy.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: It's possible, but the signal analyzer should pick up any other 5ghz connections. Unless he's just got like some kind of emp he's setting off for fun. :P
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: as far as i know anything that makes noise on the 5gz band will do that .. wireless phones can operate in that range.  many dont have them but i live in a trailer court.  
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: someday ill find a way to feedback some microwaves on the 5gz band and nuke my neighbors ears ... or something sci fi like that.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Well, I live in a small cul-de-sac, and the neighbors are really not close enough for interference. It has to be something in my house. I just have no clue what it is. It could be faulty electricity to an outlet, or children standing in front of repeaters, or bad repeaters. Many things need to be ruled out. I should just run some conduit and put in some ethernet jacks. :P
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: my brother in laws house has one wall that acts like a faraday cage . for NO reason .. 
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: his basement has had water in it many times .. new sheetrock .. i know whats under it .. but that one wall KILLS wireless signals.
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: makes no sense .. so we ran a wire to a repeater on the otherside . 
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Metal studs instead of wood?
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: nope.  wood.  it really makes no sense .  
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: can i get a listing of all the rooms in an area? (mapper)
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can pull it from the database directly, if you're not afraid to dig in with a bit of SQL
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: in mushclient, anyone know how to resize the comm log when you reopen the client on a smaller screen? the "resize corner" on the bottom right of the comm log window is not visible on the screen, so I can't resize..
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: and can't drag the window up far enough to get it onscreen to resize it either
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try aardreset (or resetaard, I forget)
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: sweet, that did it.. thanks!
T3/r7/2016-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: although, I'm not sure what else that reset lol
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: how do you send a '
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: a semi colon
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: sigh sorry, how do you send a semi colon to mapper when doing exits, it breaks my line each time
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: double semicolon
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: thx
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: s&d is not recognizing some of my mapper's rooms
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm getting "unknowns" in my "xcp" even though i do have the rooms mapped
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: has anybody ever experienced anything similar?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is saying "unknowns"?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: the room.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: it looks like s&d thinks i do not have that room explored, but i do
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is it saying it doesnt know how to reach it from your current location?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: no. it says that it does not have that room in the database at all
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: it might be a level lock issue
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh you're fucking right
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i got the campaign back when i was leveling
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh my sorry for the language
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thank you very much! :) i don't think i was going to realize that any soon heh
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i got hit with the same issue - we actually discussed it - i had a level 90 lock in a room in lemdagor
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: purged an area from mapper. db size goes up by ~100kb?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: how come?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: Confirming a curiosity. Does anything about campaigns get tracked over GMCP, like we have in comm.quest?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: Thanks, I was about to try and draw up a plugin for MUSH to track quest timer and what the current quest is, but I'd like to support campaigns also.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can do that with triggers, still. But yeah, nothing is sent through GMCP for campaigns.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: I'll probably have to do that. But I normally use Mudlet, so I already have to get used to the MUSH plugin system.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not necessarily. You can do most of your scripting without plugins. Plugins just collectively pull everything together in a tidy package.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And if I recall, Mudlet uses Lua exclusively for it's scripting engine? I may be wrong, but if so, then you already know the base for writing scripts in MUSH.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: Yeah, scripts are LUA based. However, it's harder to write a full plugin in Mudlet, since it's XML is crazy verbose. The path is to build up all the aliases and such in the program, and export.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Same with MUSH.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Build everything within the program, then use the Plugin Wizard to generate the XML file.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: what's the best way to make it so mush replaces the word portalbag with 87618423948 wherever i type it?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: or let me reword that question actually
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's so much easier just to spend the tp
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh yeah i was going to spend the tp but people keep telling me to just alias it
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: all i know is that the tp i spent never crashed on me
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is there a way to add a portal into gmcp mapper and, say, if i replace the bag, be able to easily adjust things without having to purge and readd all my portals?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: don't see why not, you decide what the commands sent are.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: Has Aardwold port for SSL/TLS connection? Or other security means?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: All port information is under 'help ip'
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But to answer your question, not from our side.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yeg Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: i havent been on for a bit, but my mapper is not loading areas that i have visited, in the SD window it has all mobs/areas as unknown...whats going on?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: did you level up a lot (since you got the cp)?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: no, just requested one
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: my mapper info is not loading or something, says ive only visited 8 areas...anything i can do about this?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: restore a backup ?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: i have not done a system restore recently
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: could it be in a seperate file or something?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that was a suggestion for you, not a suspected cause...
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: you can replace the db file with one of the backups in the logs folder 
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: oh i got ya
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: ill try but im bad at this stuff, thanks for the advice
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: the mapper works pretty good i think it just needs a mapper goto <areakeyword> as well
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: get the room id number, and make an alias mapper goto number
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: yeah i made an alias which converts the keyword to a roomid
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: and the recallbounce portal is a bit vague it took me while to understand that you have to add a portal with keyword recall for the recallroomid
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: anyone know how i can load my previous mapper database files?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What previous mapper files?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: copy them over to where the current file is, restrat mush
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: restart*
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: i tried that but it keeps saying not the correct format
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do not copy them while mushclient is open, close mush first
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: oh i see
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How old is this database?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: thanks ill give it a shot...yeah from a few weeks back...i logged on today and it said i didnt have any areas mapped :/
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh, a few weeks shouldn't make a diff then. I thought maybe you had a very old database from a drastically different version of the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm - read the Upgrading the client bit
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: make sure you remove the text after db ... like backup, etc
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: will do...so just copy and paste them in there...with mush closed...then restart?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: make sure you remove "backup_auto ..." whatever
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: it needs to look like the one you're replacing
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: okay, thanks for the assistance, i will give it a shot
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Good luck!
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: good luck!
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaniberis Tech: much appreciated!
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: okay, so my mapper path to jotunheim is flat out wrong.  how can  Ifix it?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fix the path itself.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bad portal or cexit 90% of the time
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love how you just throw up a statistic like it's fact.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if it runs through touchstone then mapper purgezone touchstone and remap
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods sagely to himself.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i think i had the same problem, i think some clan area changed exits or something
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: so see where it goes screwy, purge that room
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: might want to run to touchstone first so you are there when you purge
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: From recall, type 'mapper where 31505', then follow the steps one at a time until you reach the errant room.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but seriously: what Arc just typed.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: dang it.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: yeah, it's really soon, it does get stuck in touchstone, tries to go south and can't.  I can delete that cexit, right?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can, yes.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it isn't a cexit
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: its a normal exit
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, the exit itself, yes.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: they just rearranged the rooms
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: just purge that room, then leave it and walk back in
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: how do you purge a single room?
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: that fixed it.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I right clicked the room, and removed the wrong exit
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: it works now.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: mapper purgeroom to purge a single room
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: cool thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I just purged the whole zone and remapped
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: since they have new portal room and whatnot
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm. I guess I thought sitting in Jotunheim was good for my health instead of my manor. THANKS A LOT, LOCURN OR WHATEVER!
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, Lucron.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Rats.
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I'm the LUCORN STUCK BETWEEN YOUR TEETH!
T3/r7/2016-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: okay
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: there a good plugin for eq sets?
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC Bast has one, but you can consider just defining aliases to wear eqsets
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: bast one is good but requires some tweaking to get it working
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so like: alias level91: get <item> bag, wear item, put <removed> into bag
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then once you are able to use level91 items you just type : level91 and execute alias
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: would be nice if there was a default  eq level in the desc .. but is basically just get id number sack etc  
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some clan eq has items with keywords like "91neck"
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snowangel Tzadkiel Tech: forward thinking clanns  :P
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can also spend some tps to add keywords to items, but defining aliases is much cheaper
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: bast plugins also allow you to add notes to items, so u can for example note this item as a 201 dag with acid dam type
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I just added to some of my weapons keywords like "wlight", "wslash" so can easily wield light/slash weapon
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: anyone familiar with cmud script conversions? having issues with stringlist variables.. trying to omit output, but cant figure it out.. Arci/Fiendish isnt around and i dont know anyone else :P
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you mean mush - to skip/gag line it is just enough in OnPluginLineReceived - return false
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please do not follow that advice
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (from 8 hours ago)
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles at The Jerk Fiendish's joke.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: what's the command to reset all windows etc in mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: resetaard, I believe.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: Oh, I was beaten. Thank Aya.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: window positions aren't saved anywhere, are they?
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: they're saved in "aardwolf layout" plugin's state file
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: great...how can you tell which state file is which lol
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: but the resetaard alias resets them all to default, and then resaves them, right? I've been using the code of the Group plugin to make a Quest tracking one.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: spellup
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: buddies mushclient isn't showing output...I know I had this problem, and I had him disabled/remove the fix plugin, still isn't working.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: dang it, I'm not remember the next step I did to fix mine
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: win10 is a store now.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: proof - customize your 360 controller sends you to the store. with an "oops" message
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: incredibly lame
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its 2016. computer games are 50 years old or more even. and they still mess up everything. this time, my 360 controller. i have to read through 100 pages of useless search crap to find out that its not so easy to remap the keys for the controller. its 2016.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: I still use XPadder, it's a pretty nice little program that lets you remap 360 controls, or any DirectInput or XInput device to keyboard commands and more.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks. checking it out.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: it's 2016.  cars are over 200 years old.  They still break down and don't always work.  Every car should fly and always know what I'm thinking.  It's 2016.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: the office chairs are worse in 2016 than 1999
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: getting there according to the lastest unbelievable car adverts
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: I see both of the arguments. I expect my laptop and computers to break, but it does suck having to dig through a bunch of shit just to not be able to find that keystone to make it work.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some manuals these days are pages and pages and pages of deliberate obfuscation
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 100 pages - seriously - unbelievable
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: getting there according to the latest unbelievable car adverts
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (darn, was supposed to be spell-correcting the offline file)
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: That got me thinking about using my 360 controller for Aard. Hardest part would be targeting mobs to start attacking.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: conwindow plugin words pretty good . 
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: I could get plenty of spells through using the triggers as modifiers, sort of like how FFXIV's controller setup works.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: conwindow? I'll have to look that up.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does the 360-controller stay at 0-center readily (when not touched or when looking for 0-center) -- some crappy controllers like to drift off slightly 
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: so i have to spen 10$ to change 1 button to another?
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: my wired one is about 7 years old, and it tends to drift about... 2-3 points on a 100 point scale in each direction. Deadzoning it at like 5 kills the problem.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: And yeah Hwuaijijal, there might be a free solution, but when I was looking I didn't find one that was anywhere near as good as I valued $10.
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: thats insane
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i have no words
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: well hell with it. aint gonna pay a dime. im gonna just train my thumb to stretch to that god damned X button to open the chests:(
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: any VI players around?
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any Ruby guys around? Have a problem with some code that wont compile
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: I haven't messed with ruby in MUSHClient, but I do ruby. Might be able to pick up the issue. Wanna gist.github.com it to me?
T3/r7/2016-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: there a good plugin to manage eq sets?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Does anyone know of a script to deduplicate keys in inv?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: how do you remap a path to mapper, rt keep taking to touch stone breweery
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I did mapper where the room id of the place you are trying to go, and then walk it, and once you find the wrong room, fix it.  fo rme it was removing a south exit.
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: i'll try that
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Anyone else using Mudrammer sometimes with an iPad?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: The load time seems slow, can I do anything to solve that?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: use a real tablet and not an iPad?  ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: heya fiendish, my buddy just downloaded mushclient, and he has no output.  I disabled/removed the fix plugin, as that was what I Was told to do to fix it, and nothing...did I miss anything?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did he restart mushclient after?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that plugin is the bane of my existence
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: yes he did
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm. what if he types "prompt data" a bunch of times?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean sends, not types
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (also make sure it's actually still removed? remember it probably doesn't keep its disabled status after a restart if it's not also removed)
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I'll have him try again, I made him update to my prompts just in case the p[lugin cause the issue and was still in the prompt.
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: send along my apologies for the trouble
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: it's cool, I know well your feelings on that plugin and why the issue causing it hasn't been resolved ;)
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll try to look again at the plugin and see if there's any way I can make it more robust
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: anyone know of a plugin to handle eq sets?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's a few.
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bast and BluMalice have one.
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: Yeah Lucron. I just don't know if it's the client Mudrammer slowing it down or the tablet or a combination of both. Most of the time I'm using my macbook from 2006 running Ubuntu with KildClient, so it's not a big issue. 
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I'd blame the connection to, not that mudding takes a lot of data, but high latency wireless can affect it
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: It's 20 megabit fiber
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: no it isn't...it's wireless...and that's your latency.
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: I can leave that one out, it can run netflix?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: But shouldn't it be the same with my macbook then? Or do I misunderstand something?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: depends.  wireless on tablets can be weaker than laptops.  less power, etc.  it also could be the mud client is poorly coded..it could honestly be a combination of them all
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: LOL yeah :), I love the little tablet thing and the client, Using less battery than my laptop, and can be used in all positions. And places I will not mention :()
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: but the load time is a pain in th.......
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Is there a function in MSSQL to pad a string with 0s until it equals a certain number of characters?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I'm pretty sure some of my old bosses did that with their checks...only explaination.
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: I'm padding the other side of the string.
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: loop through and concat while length < whatever you want?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: anyone know how to show the miniwindow for a newly installed plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: in mushclient
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: it could be behind your other miniwindows
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: which plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: nope, i don't see it.. 
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: its the quest plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: err, quest noter v2
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: sorry, I don't know anything about that one. See who wrote it and try to get in touch with them.
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: hmm, that was the first plugin I installed.. perhaps i have to add something specifically for miniwindows first
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: you don't have any other miniwindows?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: i dunno, i guess i do.. just the ones that you get by default when you first install mushclient
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: map, group, stats, and comm log
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: if those are considered miniwindows
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: well, there should be a problem with the plugin itself ... who wrote it?
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: nick gammon wrote this plugin, so i assume this is a pretty standard plugin
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: how old is it? It may not work with the current version of mushclient
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: if it's Nick Gammon, I suggest you go to his website and ask in the forum
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: well thats where i downloaded it from.. although, you're right it may be old.. says it works in mushclient 4.33
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: yeah ... we're up over 5 now
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: hmm.. 4.94 is newest on his forum
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: is what i'm running
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: errr, 4.98
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: mine if 5.1
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: is*
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: well that's weird.. 4.94 is posted on site, which is what i downloaded, but 'about' in the program says 4.98
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2016-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/archive/MUSHclient.zip
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: Is there something you have do to make the mapper script in MUSH Client expand variables when running a portal command?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Good lord
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: GTX 1080's sold out already
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: In less than 10 minutes
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: i don't doubt that for a second lol
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LoKag Tech: maybe it'll drive the titan's prices down though!
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: Sold you maybe. But how many units did they actually sell?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: sold out*
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: anyon know
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: anyone know how to override a TG1682G router's DNS settings?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: so your computer doesn't use the dhcp settings given to it?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: So I can use my DNS server and not the standard 75.75.75.75 from xfinity
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I don't want to have to configure all of my devices, anything that connects will use my DNS settings
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: make your dns server also a dhcp server, turn off dhcp on the router, and call it a day.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: this work? http://setuprouter.com/router/arris/tg852g/dns.htm
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: You must have missed the xfinity part
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It is different firmware than the standard Arris router
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i guess, anyway good luck
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if you can't actually follow that document due to different firmware then i would say setting up your own DHCP is the next best approach. I did see something about being able to contact comcast and have them open up your DNS option
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: not having xfinity itself, I can't give you step by step instructions.  the best I can do is offer general advice.  if dns is that important to you, set up an internal dhcp and have xfinity support help you turn it off.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I was asking so I didn't have to setup a second router and throw the xfinity one into bridge mode. That is easy, I was hoping for a simple solution that I overlooked in a particular router
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: call xfinity and have them walk you through changing the dns it gives out in dhcp.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: have you ever tried calling comcast? Rate #1 in worst customer service
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: yeah, but tech support is usually much better than customer service.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: I am currently having an issue with the official (that is, custom Aardwolf) MUSHclient opening correctly. Has anyone seen the discussion in the newbie channel? If not, I'll describe the issue here as well.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: most of us can't see the newbie channel :(
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only ones who can see newbie are Helpers, Advisors, Imms, and of course, newbies.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nod, so it would be best to re-describe the issue here
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: I see. Alright, here's the issue: when I open the MUSHclient from the website at http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm I can open the client, and connect, but I receive numerous script errors, resulting in my ability to see only the input/output window and text box - no other helpful windows or monitors.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think that one is more outdated than it needs to be. Go to http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf and get the zip file from there. Report back if you have the same issues.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: I was suggested to do that in Newbie, did so, and have the same error(s) with that client as well.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What script errors are showing?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: I'll restart and copy-paste as many as possible.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only need to copy a couple, not all of them. Just one will be enough to start out.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: h
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: whoops
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Alright, I'm back.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Here's the pattern of errors: (wall of text not-yet-incoming)
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Something like "Line 77: Error parsing script (Cannot load)"
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bluzhahdo...
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Then Something like "Line 474: Error in file "C:\Users\[my username here]\Downloads\aardwolfclientpackage-MUSHclient\MUSHclient\world\plugins\aard_GMCP_handler.xml" (Not loaded)"
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Quick question.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Shoot.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: put it into c:\mushclient
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you extracting the files first?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As in right-click, extract files?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Arcidayne: yes. Trachx: Already tried that.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: If you'd like, I can enumerate all the errors according the pattern I gave, but in a much briefer format.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you've gone right-click, Extract Files -> C:\MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Well, I use PeaZip, but essentially yes. I can try extracting with Windows Explorer, too. I'll report back.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh. I use 7zip. Same difference, as long as the end result is the same. *ponder*
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: we also discussed not extracting to programfiles, not changing the world name
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it should work without any changes if the entire zip is extracted and maintains the folder structure
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The issue itself seems to be related to loading the plugins.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If that's the case, it's likely related to the Aardwolf.mcl file, which can be edited through a text editor.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Alright, I tried extracting directly to the C drive (under MUSHclient, with the executable directly under that directory) with Windows Explorer itself - still no dice.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, What was the line it showed this time about not loading plugin?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: A whole bunch. Do you still have the pattern I copy-pasted in mind/available for viewing?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I want just one line, specific to this newest incarnation.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: this line: Bluzhahdo Tech: Then Something like "Line 474: Error in file "C:\Users\[my username here]\Downloads\aardwolfclientpackage-MUSHclient\MUSHclient\world\plugins\aard_GMCP_handler.xml" (Not loaded)"
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You extracted it to C:\MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Well, there is still that one. Every time. Also... 11 more instances of that two-error pattern.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Arcidayne: Yes.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And you're not running the exe from the zip? You've actually gone to the C:\MUSHclient folder and ran the exe there?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Arcidayne: Yes.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: extract again to c:\mushclient, then copy-paste error
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The reason I ask is because the error you're describing appears to be trying to pull it from the zip file, or at least the download location.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He did, Trachx.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then it should complaine about c:\mushclient\....
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Next step is to open Aardwolf.mcl file in a text editor.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Trachx.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unless Fiendish made an error somewhere. :p
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it fresh install, no need to edit anything
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Arcidayne: Ahhhh, wait a minute... I'm looking through this box of red-text plugin errors that pops up after all the dialog boxes, which I've ignored thus far based on the website saying to ignore plugin errors, sort of.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Well, here's something:
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: The (presumably LUA) code is not finding modules.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, here's what I want you to do. Close out your file explorer.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're on Windows, I'm assuming.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Yes, and alright.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Windows Key + R, pops up the command. I want you to type in: C:\Mushclient\mushclient.exe
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: The errors still appear.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Next step. Open up your favorite notepad editor.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Notepad++, okay.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: That is, it's open.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: File -> Open, and navigate to C:\Mushclient\worlds\ and open Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Alright, it's open.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Use the search tool, and search for <!-- plugins -->
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Okay, I'm at that section.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Every single one of the lines below <!-- plugins --> needs to just be: <include name="filename.xml" plugin="y" />
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Is that how it's shown there?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (for example: <include name="aard_chat_echo.xml" plugin="y" />)
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Such appears to be the case, yes.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And the errors being generated are still pointing to the Downloads folder?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Would you prefer a pastebin to see it as well? In case I miss anything?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: And... let's see...
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you could pastebin all the errors, that'd help a bit, too.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe it is priviledge related problem (Vista and later windows editions)- can you "run as administrator" mushclient.exe ?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: No, the errors refer to the actual folder tree launched from. So the C:\-rooted one refers to C:\MUSHclient-rooted XML files.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What do you see when you hit Ctrl+Shift+P ?? (You'll need to close the box to respond, but I want to see if there's anything there at all)
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Here's a pastie: http://pastie.org/10855228
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Of stuff before. Not of stuff upon hitting ctrl-shift-p
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That... still points to the download directory.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Upon hitting ctrl-shift-p in the C:\-rooted MUSHclient executable, after all dialog boxes cease
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Ah, oops. Ignore that.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: That's from when I was going to copy-paste stuff into this channel.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Imagine that all the Downloads stuff is replaced by C:\MUSHclient
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Same errors from either locations
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Same errors from either locations - different filenames accused.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did you see anything in Ctrl+Shift+P?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Anyway, after showing plugins with that key shortcut ctrl-shift-p, a table of 5 plugin records comes up in a window.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Helper Aliases, Main Layout, Prompt Fixer, Tick Timer, and Repaint Buffer
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are all of them authored by Fiendish and/or Lasher and/or Nick Gammon?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay. For each of the files that were NOT loaded, I want you to click 'Add' and add them. They'll be under C:\Mushclient\worlds\plugins (it should automatically take you there).
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: so aardwolf_gmcp_handler, aard_miniwindow_z_order_monitor, aard_statmon_gmcp, etc.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If there are any errors, please report back.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: For each one, I get a "problem loading the plugin" error. For ASCII Mapper, for example, I receive errors based on the fact that "module 'gmchelper' not found".
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, you need gmcp_helper first.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er, handler, not helper.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: That too fails, citing need of module 'aard_lua_extras'.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go to C:\Mushclient\lua, and tell me if "aard_lua_extras.lua" is there.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have c:\mushclient\lua dir? there should be that gmcphelper.xml
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Okay, I actually need to leave to go drop off this letter I prepared at an office. And yes, I do have both the dir and the file(s).
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: So I'll probably be back in a few hours.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Apologies for cutting us off in the middle of this, but the office closes kinda soon-ish.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Thanks for the help and guidance for now though! And thanks in advance if you help more in the future :-)
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I have to go shower and get ready for work. You may need to contact Fiendish to figure out what the real issue is, at this point. I'm running out of ideas.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: I see. Alright.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Is there a way to mail on this system?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, read 'help note'. You would do: board personal;note write Fiendish;Your subject, then fill in your body.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But help note will give you far more instructions.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Alrighty, thanks much! Have a great day. Or evening. Or night. Or morning. Or whichever your timezone is :-D
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In fact, I'll note him (and you) so that he can get a bit more information.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eastern time zone. Afternoon right now, gonna be heading to work shortly!
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluzhahdo Tech: Arcidayne Sounds great. Haveta go now, thanks much!
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigBoss Tech: How in windows 8 do i stop the screen from going to sleep when im busy writing DVDs ?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: you'd probably hve to turn off sleep entirely.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's sleep?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Explain that concept to me. I think I used to know it.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But it's been years.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: some software ovewrites it. launch a movie in vlc and pause it
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigBoss Tech: The Windows goes into suspend mode.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigBoss Tech: If you dont move mouse 
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, someone I have on ignore, ha. The answer lies in power options, though.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigBoss Tech: OK, thanks all.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: is there a way to have the mapper prefer portals over recall?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll prefer whichever gets you there in fewer steps
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: get a garbage can portal
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: so by default it will use the portal first?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you have a portal that takes you to your recall, mapper will always use that over recall unless you're in a noportal room
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: gotcha thanks
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if the portal takes you closer (which is usually true)
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: gotcha thanksaylor
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: oops mt
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, to mapper goto <the room south of recall>, two short options would be to use the academy portal or to use recall...it's 3 steps for the academy portal...use the portal, down, south...but 2 steps for recall...recall, south
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but to mapper goto <the room north of the academy portal>, it's the reverse, two steps to use the portal, and 3 steps to use recall
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one thing to note is that "steps" is only referring to "number of exits", it is NOT referring to the actually procedural steps...so "use a portal" doesn't care if that expands to "get portal bag ; remove existing portal ; wear new portal ; enter ; remove new portal ; wear regular portal ; put new portal bag", it's still just 1 step
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: got it, I just wasn't sure what it would do in the case of a tie, which it seems it picks portal
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is especially true notable when you're using custom exits to do things like get to the knossos castle...you often put that cexit in the second room of the area, and it runs a couple dozen rooms, but that cexit is one "exit"
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: so if I had included the down in my academy portal alias that is called by the mapper portal it would have favored the portal even in that case since it would include the move down in the alias, and then set it as a portal to recall
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: portals don't know where they land, you tell them that by where you make that portal in mapper
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: right so if i had hold academy;use;d as an alias and set it in the recall room it would choose to use that over recall
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: cool, I may just do that over carrying around a garbage can
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd recommend making a portal in mapper flagged as a recallportal that uses "c word"
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: I have that already, I was just hoping to avoid the delay after casting before it starts moving from recall
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: when in a portal friendly room if that makes sense
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: thanks for all of the input, I think I have something workable
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can even have the academy portal in there twice, once to recall and once to its real destination...make an alias academyportal and an alias academyrecall
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way when you're running to somewhere in the academy it won't go down and then back up
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordenkaim Tech: hm good point, I'll add that too, thanks!
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: anyone know why mushclient would have any output?  it's wierd, it even pages, but no output from anything you do in the game.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: not look, not inv, nothing.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: correction, NOT have any output lol
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: you have a plugin capturing all,  and the end trigger didnt fire
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: any recent installed ones?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: this is base install from website, updated, and only bast plugins added
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and you have new line at end of prompt (don't think that'd cause this..)
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: removed fix plugin, and made sure there was no %c at end of prompt.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: this is insane, everything looks right, and just no output at all.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: start disabling plugins one bby one
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: not sure never seen this issue with basts - but I  am on a really old version.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I found the issue, bad mcl file
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you DO want %c at the end of your prompt
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: anyone know what xareadb in basts plugins actually does?
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: Just installed the basts package today, but that's on my list to figure out myself.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: figured out notes and xareadb were killing my buddies output...notes I know what it does, but xareadb I'm not sure what it interacts with and actually is needed for.
T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If I had to guess, it's an issue with paging, since areas is just over 300 lines....
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: does anyone know the max length for mob names and room names ?
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tufke Tech: i mean the mob name from scan
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: im trying to get a sound trigger to work... mushclient says it has received the trigger string, but the sound is not playing... any ideas?
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: vol up
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nope :\
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and tick "enable trigger sounds"
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: thats enabled too
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does it play sound when you click "test" ?
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: yes, and the trigger works, because if I have it send a 'look' command to the mud, it issues a look, but plays no sound.
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: are you sure that "look" comes from this trigger? 
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: it is literally the only trigger I have
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you've ticked "only if inactive" ?
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: .... That's it! Thanks!
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is it unusual for a Windows 7 computer to be "checking for updates" for hours?
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: upgrade to 10
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't get the prompt on this laptop
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: You can force it
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: it's not uncommon.  could be a symptom of a corrupted update db
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if it involves checking for windows updates it's not gonna work :p I've let it try for about 5 hours
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I really should just do a factory restore
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: windows update feature on windows 7 is crap :(
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kieran Tech: fupdates on Win7 are quite special
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: In MUSHclient -- the gui window that displays the search&destroy information -- I'm not able to move it
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Has anyone come across this issue and do you know how to fix it?
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: er "xset reset gui"
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: AHHHH
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: that worked :D
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: awesome :)
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanko Tech: Does anyone know why I see {chan ch=newbie} before any message on the newbie channel?
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: tag channels is on
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanko Tech: Got it. Thanks.
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanko Tech: Do people use that for scripting purposes?
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: It makes it easy to catch channel lines
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanko Tech: Gotcha.
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanko Tech: No reason to have them on if you don't use a chatbox miniwindow?
T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I have several hundred lines of custom plugin code for MUSHClient, so yes
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Does anyone have any experience with recovering formatted drives in windows?
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I found a program online, Disk Drill, that's found about 50% of the content on the drive.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: anyone else have th problem with extender/mapper running you to touchstone instead of certain zones?
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: so I had to reformat and reinstall my pcs, and I apparently forgot to make a copy of my mush folder, so now in theprocess of getting everything else again... Winklewinkles triple pack doesn't seem to work with the xrt alias, anyone know where I can get a fix for it?
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Nokfah
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks trachx
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: will Aard be possible on VR
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BigBoss Tech: Im 13, cant work :) 
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone knows how to toggle GMCP channels?
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: gmcp on
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: My Room info is off, and I can't figure out how to turn it on.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I see.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm only getting char/comm info.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I see what you're talking about, hmm.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I would update the wiki too, if I found it :p
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: GMCPchannels seems to not be a thing.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I know the wiki talks about debug... what was the command for that?
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, gmcp debug
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: protocols gmcp debugjson
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, doesn't seem to be a valid option.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's supposed to be for testport only according to the wiki
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But the commands seem to work here too :p
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But you say your "room" is off?
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup. I only get room.wrongdir events.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's odd.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Does protocols gmcp restart work?
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (for the room)
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne is guessing the extraneous ones are pending features.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nope. I've been able to toggle debugjson and debugpackets, though.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Relogging to check
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Great, now they're all off :p
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, that's no good.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There was a toggle to get GMCP in the first place... hmm... forgot what it was
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Trurien: sendgmcp room on?
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Probably a client-side alias to something, it doesn't work mudside.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: sendgmcp gmcpchannels on worked for me.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've got gmcp debug turned on, though.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Fat lot of good that does.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2016-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: At the very least, gchannel is now on for me. :P Can't figure out why yours are all off, though.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd send a note up to Fiendish to figure out what's going on, I guess.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I wouldn't, I'm not using AardMUSH :P
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well then.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: tintin++
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then it's probably client negotiations on your end. I know there's a couple tintin++ users out there. Guess tech board is your option.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah it's been a while since I did that, though... hmm
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ooh, I had to #send {} and stuff is coming in now. But I can't seem to toggle the options...
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ooh, I had to #send {$IAC$DO$GMCP} and stuff is coming in now. But I can't seem to toggle the options...
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Solved, I think....
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It was in the opening negotiations, but I had to add something to the events.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm... GMCP debug is now useful, I need to redefine some things...
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yay, finally got GMCP working. I should probably not have it spam me, though...
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any way to do a non partial search in the mapper (like match this room name *exactly*)
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: you will have to write an SQL query yourself into the aardwolf.db i think
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hrmm :\
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you'd think there would be a command line switch to do an exact search
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like when you're searching for a room with a very common word (and that's the whole room name).. it won't show results because there's too many..
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I guess I can use mapper list..
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but that only returns first 100.. bah
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: yea i think you probably have to write something to take into account your level range, have a list of areas by level, and search the aardwolf.db for those areas within your level range, for that room name
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or just remove the % from both ends of the mapper area/find..
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: % just means wildcard
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: by default it fills them in
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: yep that works too
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: I get a ton of errors from aardwolf_weaponswitch ...anyone else have that?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: bwahaha
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: 2 min to add it to Fiendish's mapper
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure if it was already there.. but I just copied his mapper find function and removed the like and wildcards and did where = and the string itself
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: works like a chaRm
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: StormGiant claps at Yajan's performance.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan curtseys gracefully.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone interested?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: does an exact search, usage: mapper findexact [roomname]
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StormGiant Tech: im good thanks :) i just search the aardwolf db directly and use mapper goto to get there
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: KkKKKKk.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlyZoR Tech: Is a intel core 2 duo cpu, 2gig ddr2 ram and onboard Integrated Intel Accelerated 3100 Video card enough to mud with MUSH lag free?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: what's the command to reset the GUI in MUCHclient?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: aard layout reset
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: does anyone know how to set a trigger in mush client that doesn't necissarily have a specific string for it? I want to make a sound for when something attacks me. Ideas?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: put something in battleprompt that does it
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ^(.*) attacks you.$
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gorsk, no need for the anchor, since it doesn't add shit to the trigger. :p
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (.*) attacks you.$
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i add alot of extra stuff. if i don't need it, it doesn't hurt
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I forget if it ends in ! or ., but the unescaped . will work.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Something said on the Tech channel attacks you.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's just going to fire off every time someone says attacks you.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: attacks you
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't be an asshole, Xyliz.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And by the way, abusing triggers as such is very much not appreciated here in Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: is that a regular expression? I've never seen anything attacks you when something does. I just see so-n-so's pound misses you or whatever, and the battle begins.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, aggro mobs tend not to give you that warning.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: I use only sounds for triggers because I am VI, and this game happens too dang fast.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: don't write sloppy triggers
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: People writing sloppy triggers doesn't give you the right to be an asshole.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Especially to a VI user.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: except you Arcidayne are with a foul mouth
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pyra, your best bet is to set up two triggers. The first will fire on your first instance of bprompt. The second will fire on when the mob is dead.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne pats Xyliz on her head.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go troll debate some more.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alzar rapidly nods twice at Arcidayne, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: At least I'm genuinely trying to help.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: omg I need to know a lot more about triggers. I need a vertual trigger tutor. lol. Don't know how to only make it do the first instance.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Pyra.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What is your bprompt set as right now?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: you can set a variable that sees if bprompt is on or off easily and when it changes to on, your trigger activates
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: %B, %p
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: how to remove a note in mapper?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lucron, I wanna say mapper addnote <blank>
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pyra, I'd suggest changing your bprompt to something like: >Battle: %B, %p
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That will make it a tad easier.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ok. ?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucron Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Lucron.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: done. Battle prompt set to: battle! %B, %p 
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can change it to whatever you want, but you want something unique so that you know you're in battle at that exact moment.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you familiar with how to create triggers at all?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: I can do a simple trigger, for instance, you can now quest again to play a sound. I can add wildcards, and I can make it send something, like to drink water if I'm dehydrated.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Perfect. 
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: problem is, I don't know what some of the items in the dialog even mean.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your first trigger is going to be: battle! *
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: what you want is something to keep track of when bprompt is off, then sends the sound when it changes to on, I'm not a mushclient user so I dont have the exact details on that client
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: in my client I have a thing that in the trigger I can put an "if" check
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Let's not confuse Pyra with more information from others.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: OK. sec let me find a good sound. tink I have one but it'll be named funny
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pyra is going to need some step-by-step to ensure she gets it right.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: and all you do is "if bprompt was off, when is on, sound" in the language of the client
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: the if check will keep it from playing over and over during battle
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: done.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good. You're able to locate the name field in the trigger, correct?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not name, but Label, I'm sorry.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: tell me what to put in it, then I'll look, because I have to keep closing the configure thing to read your messages.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, I'll help you with step by step on that.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: found label. I know now that I can go to alt+l to get to it.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Alright, from the input box where you put the trigger: battle! *, I want you to tab 7 times. That will put you into the editor box, and in that box, I want you to type EnableTrigger("bstart", false) -- after that, hit tab two more times, and hit down 12 times (to Script). Then tab three more times, and type bstart
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, that works, too.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As I'm not familiar with VI navigation, I just try to break it down to keyboard presses, ha.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: that works. Everything is keyboard and shortcut keys for me.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Let me know when you have done this.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: so put the EnableTrigger("bstart", false) in lebel?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: so put the EnableTrigger("bstart", false) in label?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, just put bstart in label. The EnableTrigger line is to go in the big edit box (7 tabs after the trigger input line)
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: what big edit box? what is it called?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The box labled: Send (not Send to)
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: when I tabbed seven times, I got to a checkbox, not an editor
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Was the checkbox Inverse?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If so, hit tab one more time after that one.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: is there a way to go back and froth between this configurator and the main window? I'm having to completely escape out and start over.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unfortunately, there isn't.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ok. worth asking...
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'll try to break it down a bit easier, though, let me see.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, DUH!.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ok. so I've got what to do in send and found that. so then, put what in script? I got bstart in label.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay. Alt+S to get to the Send box. That's where you put the EnableTrigger("bstart", false)
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: After putting EnableTrigger in Send box, tab twice and locate 'Script'
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: OK. I was misunderstanding. I got it now.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Perfect. So THAT trigger is set. Now we need to set one more trigger.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: in element lingo that's the combobox I had to find stcript in, not the editors
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What is your prompt (not bprompt) set to?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: prompt is %h, %X, %a
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, you will need to change it like you did with bprompt.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Something simple, like prompt!
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: put a word in front again?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: this good?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: Prompt set to prompt %h, %X, %a 
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd set it to something like you did with battle, with a punctuation of choice.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: OK. I did that with battle because screen reader uses a different tone with ! so it allerts me. I'll just use a ,
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That works.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: Prompt set to prompt, %h, %X, %a 
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good. Now you're going to do the same thing to this trigger as you did with bprompt trigger, only this time, you can put the lable as sprompt. I'll give you the "Send" info, too.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The Send box (Alt+s) needs to read: EnableTrigger("bstart", true) EnableTrigger("sprompt", false)
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (and we're going to edit the bprompt trigger one last time)
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: the EnableTrigger("bstart", true) EnableTrigger("sprompt", false) is a new trigger right? just checking. headache if I screw this up.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes. It will be a new trigger, with the trigger line being: prompt, *
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ok done. now you said edit the battle one again?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: and that thing's going off every time my prompt plays still
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes. Alt+s, and change what's there to EnableTrigger("sprompt", true) EnableTrigger("bstart", false)
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, I should have told you not to add a sound to the prompt trigger.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: oh. loll k.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: if I just check the no sound box on that one will it solve it?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think so.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ok. sec. I'll do the other one first
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ok both done.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good. Now your prompt will enable the bprompt trigger, and your bprompt trigger will enable your prompt trigger. Go test it in battle.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: it'll happen any time I fight?
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So whether something attacks you, or you engage in battle, you'll get that tone.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's about the only way you can get what you want, since there's no specific message for aggro mobs.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: yeah. this is perfect because sometimes I attack something that left the room and I missed it too. lol
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: let's see.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: be sure you disabled or removed the faulty trigger attacks you.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pyra never put that trigger in Xyliz.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As usual, your dribble is unhelpful.
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: it'
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: it's happening every time it sees batle!
T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You said your reader plays a sound each time it sees !?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: the trigger is still happening every single time the prompt happens, interrupting itself.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Arcidayne, you acted as though Pyra did, when you went potty-mouth, (and you yourself ended a tech statement with "attacks you.")
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay. Let me make sure I understand this correctly. You entered into battle. The sound played, and played each time your bprompt showed up?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: every round of battle
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, Xyliz, you assumed as much. :) I never assumed Pyra made any triggers until directed by me. Now kindly shut the hell up and go back to your mancave.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, so it's not disabling properly.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Arcidayne, you started the insults
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alzar calls out Xyliz on her blatant troll fail.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: I copy pasted exactly what you said into send. I wonder if I could have missed a character? Should I give you back one of the strings I put in there?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Give me what you put in the battle! trigger.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: k. sec
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: EnableTrigger("bstart", true) EnableTrigger("sprompt", false)
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Change that to: EnableTrigger("bstart", false) EnableTrigger("sprompt", true)
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ok. test again?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Before doing that, tell me what's in the prompt, trigger.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: EnableTrigger("bstart", true) EnableTrigger("sprompt", false)
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Perfect.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, now go test.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pyra nods
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: still.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechist Tech: Well, I put off upgrading to Win 10 but, it's not too bad Eh?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Still firing the same way?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pyra: Are you able to take a screenshot of the what you have in the trigger and send it my way?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: yep
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, I'll wait for that screenshot then.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: sorrry no on the screenshot. don't know how with windows, and no mouse usage.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah, Hm.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm gonna send you a tell, Pyra.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ok
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There, Pyra's issue solved. Lives saved. I'm a hero, again.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Good work!
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishken Tech: is there a good guide on mapper portals somewhere?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: Yeah, I used http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=12930
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renoir Tech: After the authors' three posts, the first response is crucial, where they tell you that instead of using a second alias to make the portal, just do mapper portal mpol <portal name> So that it calls the first alias, ensuring your variables are followed whenever you update them.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, i've had it with this wireless router / modem i have and i'd like to get a less crappy one
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: wires ftw.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, wires are the endgame, but not so much fun for phones
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm, may need to do some soldering...
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: anyway, the problem here is that the wifi randomly drops out and it requires restarting the wireless on the device (or resetting the router) for it to take back
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, i have a larger home and i'd like to try to use just one router for this
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: suggestions?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: how big?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: 3500sqft for two stories
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: your best bet is to get a good standalone router and a couple of signal amplifiers
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: repeaters are your friend
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my current router has no trouble sending a signal to the whole house... floor plan and central locations help
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: if you own it, I would just run cat5 through the walls, wifi sucks
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars sighs.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i know...
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't own this home, still house shopping
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: this house fails.  next?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: there used to be a time when this channel provided useful advice :(
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you didnt like the useful advice...
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'll just use amazon reviews
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and no, if its really a total loss of router function, the only real solution is to get a real router.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks all :)
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it is not a loss of router function, it's a loss of wireless function
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the wired connections are fine
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: completely fine
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: how many devices connect via the wireless
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: active at any given time? like 5
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Could it be your wireless in the laptop?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that number hasn't changed since i got the router 2 years ago
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: its the same symptom on the appletv, iphones, laptop and desktop
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: they're probably stealing IPs from each other, if you can try and set fixed IPs for them
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: they've had fixed IPs for a while now
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: they should all be set for dhcp by default...
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: or that :p
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, the dhcp is actually off
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i have cisco rv110w, got it long ago, still running great.  i have 6+ devices connected.  runs well.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: and it's pretty cheap.  
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does that have n capabilities?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes, wireless N
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: awesome, thanks!
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: honestly though using aggregated reviews is going to be better than asking like five people what they use
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: much larger sample size
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: signal/noise ratio tho...
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Is that the one with CVE-2015-6302?
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica takes control of your horizontal
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: cve 2015 ?  not sure.
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Just messing
T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I use this thing http://www.hitron-americas.com/products/cgnm-2250/