T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'can someone explain to me why people pay 5M for a qreset token?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'like I can't fathom how it could ever be worth that'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Almila: 'they have more money than they ever cared for?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'when you make that in less than 10 minutes, why not'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'people can make 5M in < 10 min??'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'what am I doing wrong...'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Almila: 'you can sell your qreset tokens!!'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'being t3 doesn't help'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Almila grins evilly at Yajan.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'so it hurts? :('
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'the faster you kill, the faster you get gold'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'I'm going to venture to say no one makes 5M in 10 min and that was an exaggeration'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'ok 15m'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'I guess my point on the qresets wasn't that you shouldn't buy them if you have the money (because QP are probably the most important thing...)'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'but rather why would someone buy them over TP?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'like best quest return you could get even at T9 is like 40ish qp right?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'if you were to convert TP to QP even at a meh rate of say 100 QP per.. it'd be much cheaper to buy up TP for even 6.. 7M'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'i feel like noone trades qp/tp anymore'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'you just need a buyer.. I'm planning to exchange a bunch of TP for QP with someone soon'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'me too Yajan, me too'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'sounds tedious'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'TP is in high demand right now because there's just not enough to support mass enchanting of Aard weapons and what-not'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'ppl seem to only want to spend gold, not qp on tp'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'I guess it is hard to find a buyer though'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Godsmack: 'gold is easier to make mebbe?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'if gold is easy then people will want more and more for TP right?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'TP is finite whereas gold can be readily earned'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'easier gold would rise the amt willing to pay for tp and the qp price would be lower'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'so me thinks ppl value qp more than tp'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'QP is a much more limited resource.. and it's tied directly to TP through questor'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'of course if anyone had the choice they'd always buy TP with gold'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'trivs come free with quests/cps too, or randomly on mobkills, etc'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'what I'm saying though is at some point the price of TP in gold will be so high that QP trading for them will make more sense'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'sounds like dealing with a human, i'll just buy tokens :p'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'once it takes less time to earn the QP than the gold'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'that's my theory at least'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'it's just not a thing people do that much anymore, but could definitely catch on'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'they do but only through random chance (in response to what you were saying earlier) - it's never guaranteed'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'gold/qp are always guaranteed to come in at some rate (qp is a variable rate, but you still get some)'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'anyone her?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lamya: 'I am'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'nope'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'If Reganomics is responsible for the 90s boom, did rural america benefit from the dot com boom?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'don't make me do stuff :('
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'no, it didn't'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'only hims her'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Nope'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Failurette Noegel: 'wee'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Obamacare is terrible for the working class. Oh I don't have insurance and have to pay a fine, do I at least get insurance? NOPE'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lundfu: 'healthcare should be a right unless we're ready to let people die at the emergency room doors'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Also Goku would destroy Super Man'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lundfu: 'single payer is the only way, but obamacare had to be scaled back'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PenguinGod Galoth: 'but one punch man beats all'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'UHC is empirically superior. Trump couldn't cite a single source for Canadians flocking to american health care'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Goku would fall asleep as Saiatama punched him, so one punch man's name would remain true'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'rimil: having lived on the canada/US border for most of my life, I've seen plenty of canadians coming to the US for healthcare'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Raelly? How would that work? The American Dollar is so strong'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'has nothing to do with the american dollar...they were willing to pay for US healthcare, both for quality and timeliness'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Haha care to cite a source?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'deb Its made up. I am in Canada a lot, and most of them think we are crazy'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'http://www.aarp.org/politics-society/government-elections/info-03-2012/myths-canada-health-care.html'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'rimil: my source is knowing dozens of them firsthand, and discussing with other canadians who work in Buffalo'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Being as I have no way to verify your anecodtes'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'USA has LESSER Healthcare for far more money'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'http://www.vox.com/2016/10/9/13222798/canadians-seeking-medical-care-us-trump-debate'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'But no, women who sleep with me and give me money are healthier. Take my word for it!'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, and yet you don't read those articles you cite very carefully'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'You mean 'trust me''
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Uh, look at the charts'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'But basic math is probably beyond someone who uses anecdotal evidence'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'No, I'm sorry about that, really'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'actually, the charts agree with me...'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'really, how?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'The s uper tiny slice?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'they're as carefully-"worded" as the articles'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '"lies, damn lies, and statistics"...it's all about exactly what is being portrayed...'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'did you know that that chart would look almost identical if it were for "US population who use the US for health care each year"'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Why dob't you compare approval ratings'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Also us citizens can't access canadian health care'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '(1) yes they can, and (2) I didn't say canadian health care'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'read things a bit more carefully'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'This is all about 'confirmation bias' anyway. No minds change because facts that mitigate against pre-set desires are carefully ignored.'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Uh, why would canadians seek us health care? Read AARP, the canadians that used american health care were here on vacation'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'rimil: I did read AARP, and read the very-carefully-worded things that it described...and the "why" was because of both expedience and care'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Uhh and how many was that? If you mean it happens on an individual anecdotal level, then sure'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'But that'sn ot what Trump argued'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if the question is "is there an absolute drove of people clamboring to cross the border for healthcare", the answer is no...but that's because the overwhelming majority of people on both sides of the border have no great need for healthcare at all...so it all comes down to whether you're looking at numbers based on total population, or numbers of people in the situations for which it may have a benefit'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'personally, I've had great healthcare coverage my entire life...and yet I haven't visited a doctor in over a decade'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I've had awesome health care too, but people will need healthcare at some point in their lives. 60% of bankruptcies are due to medical debt'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '"at some point in their lives" still keeps them in that "blue circle"'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'America still subsidizes hospitals.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_healthcare_systems_in_Canada_and_the_United_States'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Pre Obama care out of pocket and government medical spending eclipsed every other 1st world nation'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I'm not quite sure what that is intended to mean (or why you'd think I would disagree with it in concept)'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Obama care at best slowed down the increase'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the subsity of hospitals, that is'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'American spending on health care eclipses every other 1st world nation. in health expectancy we are at about 17th'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'it all boils down to overpopulation, make babies illegal please'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Right behind Guam'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'American citizens go bankrupt when they have to go to the hospital'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'we have a worse lifestyle than 90% of the world...it's not because of the healthcare system...'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'No, we really don't, American obesity statistics rank on par with every other 1st world nation except for France'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yes, we really do...you think obesity is the only bad lifestyle choice we have?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'how many of us live and structure our lives is unhealthy at a pretty core level'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'talking about stress levels, sleeping/working schedules, eating habits, $$$-focus, pretty much everything'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'I don't know what you're talking about, the 20 mountains dews I drink a day is extremely healthy.'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'merkins are always worried about "the joneses", what the neighbors think, etc.'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'http://www.atlasandboots.com/most-stressed-countries/ the US and UK rank highly and within 3 levels; https://www.quora.com/Why-is-it-so-stressful-to-live-in-America-in-comparison-to-other-countries america does rank as more stressufl than canada but not by all that much'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I agree that stress is terrible, and americans would be better off without it'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I wish I could say that stress is a 1st world problem, but keeping up with the jones is'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'note that those actually aren't lists of countries by personal stress...they're lists of countries by other things that help to contribute to stress...'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'read their methodology on the lists...much like the other things you've posted, you only glance at the glossy cover of these links you post rather than thinking about what they truly contain'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Thank you for your condescending bullshit, I have read them'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if you had, then you wouldn't have posted them in defense of your position, because they don't truly back it :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Oh geez I wonder which is more stressful, the fact that I might go bankrupt if I get a medical procedure or '
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I have read them carefully'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'why would you go bankrupt if you got a medical procedure?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Uhh, even with insurance, check out the costs'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Or if you are unnsured guess what'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'well nom you could just live in pain or die'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you stated that you've got excellent coverage, so that wouldn't apply to you...'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/28/obamacare-hasnt-stopped-more-americans-from-avoidi/'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Note that this occurred BEFORE Obama care as well'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'This is not me specifically, this is related to the stress argument'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'But even with excellent coverage I have to cover some of it, I am also charged for everyone who was uninsured'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'of course...and lots of people after obamacare can afford the healthcare even less, since they're forced to spend more on either coverage or penalties, even when still going to clinics'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Obamacare is horrible'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I am not going to defend the undefendable'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, that reminds me, I've gotta send in a stupid affirmation form that we got in the mail the other day about kids coverage :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I hate Obamacare'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'It penalizes the poor'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'No, and even when a penalty is paid, they do not get healthcare'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You rapidly nod twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'That's something we can agree on :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'And with that, I have to go to bed. Work starts back up'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it kind of reminds me of when I had a job in a union shop...I could join the union and pay union dues, or I could opt out of the union and pay the same amount in non-union dues :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'ObamaCare = RomneyCare = designed by Heritage Foundation, an extreme right wing 'think tank'.'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'ObamaCare was a comprimise with conservatives to avoit Single Payer'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'It was designed to protect the Insurance industry, at our expense'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yeah, that's why aetna pulled out of 23 states this year ;-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Obama wanted single payer, but could not get it, compromised to get more people covered, which he did'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'on paper by extortion'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'The price is steadily rising, not because insurance is rising, but because the cost of drugs and procedures is rising at absurd rate'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'ONLY single payer can stop rising healthcare costrts'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'By cutting out the middlr man completely'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'bullshit...easiest way to bring them down would be malpractice reform'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'middle'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'THAT is a joke'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'take the number of obgyns who became just gyns, for example...the bulk of the cost for procedures is malpractice insurance'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Malpractice is a fig leaf covering the excuses for Medical doctors and companies to rape. They are making fortunes, period. Look at their profit margins'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'as I said, take a look at the number of obgyns who totally pulled out of obstetrics, it wasn't because of the gobs of money they were making'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'We are at fault. treat them loke Gods, and they expect to be paid like Gods'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I have no problem with doctors making gobs of money, actually...but a number of them have gobs of salary, but aren't actually pulling home as much as you think'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'There are a few, critical services, that ONLY Government should ever run, because there is no possible choices to be made. Police, Fire, and Medical'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, we have 4 private fire departments in our 3-square-mile borough'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'private water treatment worked great in flint'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You giggle in her presence.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'private prisons another great idea'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'If a guy is breaking into your house, you cant call around to see which private security services cost least. And if you are having a heart attavck, you cant call all the hospitals to see which will charge you least. You must have in  NOW. Only government can do that without letting some die for lack of money'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'kittie: neither of those actually ring true...'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Not to you'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if you wish to choose private security services, you certainly can shop around based on any criteria you want...'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Confirmation bias'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'hows public service working in detroit'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and many people DO hospital shop even during a crisis'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah and the ones without health insurance get shopped around'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'win win imo'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'and many die'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'well maybe they shouldnt be sick'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but going to the closest hospital for critical service has nothing to do with the government, since most of the hospitals are not currently government-run'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'exactly'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'and result compared to places where government does run it?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so you'd rather go to the VA than to a private hospital? :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'But wait, you will believe the lies'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Confirmation bias again'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the result is better compared to the government ones (other than places like bathesda naval hospital)'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there are some great government facilities (such as bathesda), but there are also some really crappy ones (same as in private sector...the government itself didn't make the situation)'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Middle man vrs no middle man .... hmm, which would be cheaper. And all International statistics show USA WAY down among developed countries, but with absolute highest price, by far.'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'just like where I live, there are certain local private hospitals that I will avoid if not in immediate trauma, in favor of some more-reputable ones...one local hospital actaully has billboards all over the region saying essentially "come check out our ER, we saw it sucked, and we've changed" (in better words)'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Likely best intermeadiate solution would be Govenment Option. Let those who wish do single payer through Medicare, and those who want can also choose to hire an insurance company to tzake 30% of you medical budget'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'kittie: middle man vs no middle man would depend on what the middle man was bringing to the table...sometimes nothing, sometimes something valuable...you can often choose how "much middle man" you want by going through brokers to see if they can benefit you'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'What 'valuable' thing do Health Insurance Companies bring you?'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'coverage better-suited to needs'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: '30% loss'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and sometimes at better prices'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Nope, never those'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'bullshit'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Medicare get better prices than UHC'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that's why most people I know of who are eligible for medicare also have private insurance'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Sorry, was questing'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Medicare pays 80%, and many pay for a 'supplement'. But they can BECAUSE Medicare is less costly, they have money left. Pure socialized medicine would be even much cheaper'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'my dad was airlifted when he broke 9 ribs in a motorcycle accident in another state 2 months ago...I'm glad he had more than just medicare and his veteran's benefits :-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Have to go to bed [old]. Will be back tommorrow to convert you some more ......  lol'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'pure socialized medicine wouldn't be cheaper here'
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, no prob, nighty-night :-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'Join in the Amazon Scavenger Hunt contest for a chance to win lots of great prizes! For more details check 'board games;note read 8843'. For more info about the Festival take a look at 'board general;note read 26823' - Amazon'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'He ran on whatever he needed to say. I swear he ran on the old 1 dollar bet and accidentally won.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'people who pronounce WIFI 'wiffy' need to be curb stomped, yes or no?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'do people do that?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'people with low IQ do'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'mexcians mostly'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'let me get your weefee password'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'is it low IQ or uninformed?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Curb stomp like a MOFO'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'seeing as how those same people don't mispronounce HIFI, low IQ :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'ive heard it pronounced highfee, also annoying'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'isn't it like wireless fidelity'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'so it should be WhyFee'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Redryn runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I thought it was just a name, like kleenex'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'you mean "kloonaxx"?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'well hifi stands for high fidelity, so it should also be HiFee'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Redryn beams with pride.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'fidelity isnt pronounce feedelity, its fihdelity'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'hifeh makes more sense'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I like when people write 'I love the smell of your colon''
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'lol wtf'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'some people are just stupid'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'or maybe your ass smells just that good'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'oh wow, i just got that'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'cologne'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'wow...'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'what a nice smelling colon'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'if theyre writing you how can they smell either?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'his colon was layered thickly about him'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'you see it on people snap twitters'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'i love me the smell of an expensive colon!'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I thrust my nose deep into his shroud of colon to get a better smell'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'we got a new years card from a vendor..."We would like tyo thank you for being their for us for the past 36 years"...'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: '!'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'one of the owners commented to us "Would be more impressive if they used the correct word .there. instead of .their.."'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'maybe they ment you were thier property for 36 years ;)'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I noticed that the card was actually just a resend from what they had used last year, cuz it had a date at the top "January 3rd, 2016", and at the bottom had "Copyrig 2015. All Rights Reserved"'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'we are very thank. good new year. mery team'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Redryn looks at Tol and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'do the needful. thx'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'the phrase thanks for being theirs for us makes me think of political marriages or something'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'Did they wear expesive colon?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'won't you be theirs so we can have a peace treaty'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'my colon is very expensive.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and exit only thank you very much.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'then again, for 15 years I refused to pronounce linux the way the world does'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'do you wash out your colon every night when you shower?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'eeewww.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'nope just wash it off'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'same here abelinc, i still say lin-ucks'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yes, that!'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'wait how is it supposed to be said?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'line-ucks'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'eww'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'yea sounds terrible right?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'not on the east coast so far that I have heard'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it's linus's unix...I don't call linus from snoopy with an "in" sound...'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'many words look like things they are not to sound like'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IfHm6R5le0'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Debate CLOSED!'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'my mommy told me never to goto links from strangers'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'GAME OVER MAn'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Just do it once kid, trust me, Im a nice guy '
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I have candy!'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'wait... should I get in the van also?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'sexy single, in my area?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Not today, I forgot my bear costume.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'now let's move on to .gif...do choosy moms really choose jif? }:>'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'or do picky people pick peter pan peanut butter, because it's the peanut butter picky people pick?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'G-I-F'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'like glyph without the l'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'there was seriously a question about how to pronounce Linux?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yes, cuz linus is wrong :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'yes'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'no. the g comes from the dude who invented it'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'dafuque?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'wait. i was wrong!'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'look, you can be wrong on debate channel and nothing happens'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'your opinion is invalid ;p'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'this is the first time I have ever heard Abelinc say something that I think is just flat wrong.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You smirk at her saying.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Not true, I heard that if you are wrong on debate channel a darker version od Dexx shows up and kills your character.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'g means graphic. so g is hard'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'so hard right now'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ok. ill be never wrong ever again'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'right...and with GIF, just as in linux, the creator claims the incorrect pronounciation ;-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'GIF is definitely a hard G, unless you are a poser or a great grandmother.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Or work #devops'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'so how do you pronounce linux Abe?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'lanjux'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Like aba, only you dont' sashe while doing it'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'leinjuks'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the word is a contraction of Linus's unix. I pronounce it the only way that works for that.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'linanus?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'uhm thats how he pronounced it I thought?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'line-ix?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'so you mean you use a long I sound'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'lynn icks'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'line youx'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'liix'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I like liix much better'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Redryn *lix* you and then moves on to the rest of the room. Teehee!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I am soo torn up right now, I am totally on board with the idea that the creator of a made up word gets to decide how that word is pronounced, but I will be damned if I will ever pronounce GIF with a soft G'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'fuck that nigga'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'jiff is peanut butter'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'JIF is peanut butter not a graphic interchange format.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'jiff is also another graphic file format'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Imparsable HazeKnight: 'Maybe I'm trying to stir up shit, but giraffe and gum would like to have a word with you'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'wait you put two words pronounced with each of the types'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Imparsable HazeKnight: 'also gentleman and gondola'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the whole Linux thing I am more on Linus's side, especially since his name has a short I sound in his native tongue'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'ah ok'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'though by that standard it should be pronounced yen ucks.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but it doesn't, emm...'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'it absolutely does'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no it doesn't'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'its a hard i sound'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'well it did when he introduced himself to me.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'but that doesnt make line-ucks flow off the tongue very well'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'in the clip you just shared, he said "When I speak swedish, it's leeeeeenus"'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'or leen-ucks for that matter'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I didn't share it someone else did'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that's most certainly NOT short "i" in his native tongue'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'its the ji sound which is essentially the ye sound in english'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'oops, shelkin shared it...but at any rate, in that clip, he gave 3 pronounciations for his own name, none of them being a short i, and then for some unknown reason said but the OS is short i'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'it is much closer to a short i than a long i'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no it isn't'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it's very eeEEeeny'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'not tinny'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'what's with these people man?'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the Swedish one is definitely not a long I.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it's lemonade...read the sign!'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'its leemonade'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'everyone knows that :p'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'although with all the things that I thought I remembered that actually never existed maybe I shouldn't be too surprised if words change thier pronounciation willy nilly.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'idk about you but i juice leemons'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I actually dug out my old bearinstein bears books from my sister's attic over winter break and you know what, they said STAIN!'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'welcome to universe B'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I keep hoping to wake up in universe C where Donald Trump didn't actually win the presidency.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'of course then Hillary Clinton would have and I would still be unhappy, but less terrified.'
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'lemons like lemmings?'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I have mixed feelings about the Series of Unfortunate Events coming to Netflix'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Looks good to me, though I never followed any of the books/whatever it is sourced on.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I love the books, and it looks good, but I am just not sure Neil is right for count olaf.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Neil is right for everything, especially doing coke of a strippers ass.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'you know he is gay right?'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'not that there is anything wrong with that'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'just not sure about the whole coke off the strippers ass'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'but it doesn't work'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'oops mischannel'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You clearly didnt see Harold and Kumar.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'ahh no i missed that'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'anyway i think he might just be a bit too over the top for count olaf, which is kind of hard to believe.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'NPH has some great mocking hetros videos, and bits with uber masculinity.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I guess we will find out if he is too much, but I am not betting on it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'So, Republicans might make a bigger mess of the healthcare system now than the Democrats did back in 2009. It will be interesting to see "free enterprise" run a muck without some regulations.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Turie, but are you American'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'unsure whether that is "free enterprise" in America'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Xyliz starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Without regulation, capitalism dies.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I doubt it would be very hard to design a more efficient system.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'considering that US health care costs almost twice as much as rather expensive Norwegian system (in % of GDP)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'If there were specific situations on malpractice caps and forcing everyone into a similar healthcare system where all the companies had contracts with all the hospitals, then the cost would come down. However, The US is more in for profit margins and not more.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Plus, the politicans say that countries with national healthcare systems do selective healthcare or you have to wait xx time to get xx surgery.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Might: 'we in Russia have national healthcare system and it leads to weakest salaries for medical workers comparing to other specialists'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Might: 'you indeed need to wait X time to get surgery, so you must pay over your ensurance to get your queue go faster'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Might: 'on the other hand even non working people and people with low income may have their treatment, without corporation ensurance'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Norway has full coverage, although you have to pay up to $300 or so yourself per year. There are some limits to treament, f.i. one year of life extension (mostly relevant for cancer patients) is valued at about 100k. There are queues for almost any type of non-urgent surgery, typically 2-3 months.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'On the plus side, we spend just shy of 10% of GDP on health care, compared to 17% and change in the US.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'The other issue in US healthcare is RX. RX cost so much and the companies increase the same drugs from previous year by 10-20%. There have been cases of raising as much as 5000%.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '(Rx extortion)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'It seems reasonable to assume that the US would have the purchasing power necessary to get deals that at least aren't worse than smaller western countries, if that is a goal.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'The problem is that Pharm Companies are public companies that have shareholders who they have to show that they are making a huge profit.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Pharm Companies have drug patents on drugs that force people to buy their drug to keep living. If they put a 10 year verses a 20 year setup, then you would see certain drug prices drop fast.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'excusive for being off-topic, but I just realized that there has been on scandals associated with the Obama administration. I can't remember the last time  this has happened :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Bush Adminstration. Trump's Incoming Adminstration.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'check again, bush administration and blackwater'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/01/06/forgotten-bush-scandals.html'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exiled To Aphelion goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'I wonder how long till the Trump Adminstration will go the way of Nixon.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'proper grammatical English please. unable to decipher those scurilous allegations against the Obama administration'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'what allegations?'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'are you still to the right of Attila the Hun, Xyliz?'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'http://www.dailywire.com/news/10982/obama-says-hes-had-scandal-free-administration-aaron-bandler'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'wow, are you serious, Turie?'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exiled To Aphelion goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Every US President Adminstration has had scandals to a certain extent.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if the first were true at all,  he would have been removed from office by unanimous vote.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'They are human just like everyone else.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Clinton was not. lol'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '[09 Jan 17:46:58] (Debate) Aphelion: '*excusive* for being off-topic, but I just realized that there *has* been *on* scandals associated with the Obama administration. ...'  '
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'of course,  but by scandal we mean "blow jobs with resulting spots on dress" etc. The stealing of billions of USD from Iraq by the president and vice-president, etc.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Oh, Oil!'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'trump is inbound with scanals, already. Conflict of interests, nepotism, racism, etc.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'exclusive | excuse | have | only '
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Trump is what we call the worst of capitalism at its best.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I am going to enjoy his presidency :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Trump is a good guy  :D'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'make Attila proud, Xyliz :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Trump will basically cause a conflict with his fingers on Twitter alone.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Trump is not a good guy, his lawyers have been covering his ass since the early 90s. When he divorced Ivanna, stuff began leaking out as to how he does business.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'If he does not get his way, he becomes a bully and then tosses around negative comments about people to slander them in the public.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'One of the first leadership books I read was Leadership secrets of Attila the hun.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'It was useful.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm sure leaks from divorce proceedings are reliable.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'It is more of his business dealings that are deplorable.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'instead, I read the art of war by sun zi :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I read see spot run by some kids book person'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'That would also make it a bit strange that anyone has been doing deals with him for the past 20 years.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'well, the leaks started coming out when people started paying attention at how he was trying to shaft his wife, it turns out his assets were less than solid.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Well...http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/donald-trumps-13-biggest-business-failures-20160314'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it's a house or card, his empire. His creditors can't shut him down because they have used his name to enhance their holdings, if they shut his credit down then their collateral will also fail.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'According to Forbes, he has rather low debt levels at the moment.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it's a giant ponzi scheme.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'ok, then, you can accept what Forbes says :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'So after his near-bankruptcy experiences around 1990, he must have made some changes to his risk levels.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'unless someone has been paying his bills since the '90s, he is way in the red and so are his creditors.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'If it's that bad, why don't creditors take over his companies and run them?'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"a house or card"  --> "a house gold card" --> "a house Goldcard"  '
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Granted, humans are mostly irrational, but at least in some contexts, there are limits to stupidity.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Fortune says http://fortune.com/2016/08/24/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-donald-trumps-debt/'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'ponzi scheme, they lent him money and then used that fact to build their credit with others, if they collapse him, then they go down ( as well as half of the economy).'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'they are "GoodWill Hunting"'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Trump is more or less a very good used car salesman.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'that he is, no doubt.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"strategic business goodwill is often a valuable intangible asset"'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Trump is a one and done presidency. If the republicans screw up their vision of Healthcare Reform, then they will lose the White House and Senate....Possibly the House.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'At the moment, three terms seems more likely to me.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"reform" not "Reform"'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sure until your payment comes due, then you have to use that goodwill to refinance.  By the time the creditors catch on, they are deep in the soup themselves.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'well, you know, the Bush lasted 8 years while the country was going down the toilet. Don't lose faith in the US voters' ability to stick their heads in the sand.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Well, Coolidge let to the Stock Market Crash in 1929.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'that crash was overrated, wait for the next crash, it will cause a financial tsunami :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"led to the" | "let the"  -- obscure'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'It will be under Trump's watch if he is not careful.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the 1929 market was compressed, so a 3% or so correction caused a lot of waves.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the current market is so full of hot air that when then pin enters the balloon, the entire system will be ripped to shreds.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'economy will probably be ok for the next four years, although there could be a trade war that would make prediction hard.  The question is what will the budged deficets be.  Depending on which plans get implemented they could be huge, which short term is good for the economy, long term may kill it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'the market is not that full of air right now.  Although, a rapid interest rate rise above reason, may kill it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Not as bad as you think. They put in Stock Circuit Breakers.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so you think the market should rise 10K points without a significant correction fo re-evaluation? Have market dynamics changed that much?'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Tell Yellen to print yuge heaps of cash!'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Trump wants Yellen gone. Without her, I think the US will have major inflation issues.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'It might be like the 1970s.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'I find it rather disingenuous that Trump and company do not acknowledge that he did in front of thousands and on video/tv that he mocked with hand jesters included a journalist who was disabled by saying he was not mocking him.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Trump's Twitter statements are mockings of an individual who needs to learn how to just restrain his impulses.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I am disturbed by Trump's denying if things that are obviously on tape (mocking the diabled, and POW's, and other things)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'I am wanting another Bush instead of Trump.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'and the admission to sexually assaulting countless women'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'I mean Cruz would be a worse President.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'I believe that Trump shows open discrimination and blatant to offensive remarks of women who do not think like him.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I am disturbed by Cruz wanting to up th US back on the gold standard.  (I mean its ok for Aard, but not real life)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I meant put the us on the gold standard.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'I knew what you meant.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'A gold standard is not possible unless you inflate gold prices by three to five times.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'right now the USD is backed by the US debt. You prefer that pillar of stability to gold? Interesting.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so the USD is backed by the fear of US creditors to demand payment because they know the US can't pay.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Turie: 'Trump's wealth is built on this.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'yes it is, I made that point before :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'puting the US on the gold standard means the Fed can't use monetary policy to help the US keep the economy on an even keel,  being for the gold standard would be for boom and bust cycles.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the FED is not the constitutional guardian of the currency, the Treasury is. The FED has usurped the role. '
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'being on the gold standard would be to give control of US monetary policy to outside forces.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and in fact, the USD, is not a treasury note but a FED note, worthless in reality.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'really, so where were those forces before Nixon "liberated" the USD?'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'offer anyone and one hundred dollar bill and ask them if they think the USD is worthless.'
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '("a one" not "an one" and definitely not "and one" (in the above context))'
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'what a shit show trump made today. no wonder they keep him locked away in a tower'
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oo Kyhal: 'u no MMA?'
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bid On Swaizo: 'Math Matics Anonymous?'
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bid On Swaizo: 'Moose member association'
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oo Kyhal: 'naw r33l mumb3rs'
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'someone just posted a piece on facebook on "Fake News" their source was Alex Jones.... is that the pot calling the kettle black?'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'How does Kellyanne Conway sleep at all?'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shindo: 'who is miss conway?'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'the counselor of the wig man'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'tough job, imo'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Also one of the smoothest liars I've ever seen.'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Kellyanne has been part of same group as bannon from her youth. She is natural leader in 'Bigots-R-Us'.'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shindo: 'they normally lie so well because they believe the lie, then they have a clear conscience and sleep like a baby'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Ugh.'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Terrible, terrible stuff.'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shindo: 'yeah morals are terrible things'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Trurien snickers with Shindo about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Reality always intrudes. Today begins 'the awakening'. We shall sede what is relearned.'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'She's got Anderson Cooper on the defensive and mentioning Buzzfeed every now and then, lol. Like a flash, Ikuko grabs at the corpse, looting it of the treasure hidden in it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Oops, pasted the wrong stuff :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Conway v Anderson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugR24uivqw8'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'She is an expert in bulldozing the conversation her way, I'll give Conway that.'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: '"But we didn't say A!" / "No, we're talking about B! How can you be so wrong?" '
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Talking points. Rule is: Never,ever answer the question, just divert to talking points.'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: '"Kellyanne, diwas Trump wrong to compare CIA/NSA to nazis?" ""Hillary let four men die at Benghazi!"'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kittie: 'Never, ever, EVER acknowledge being wrong. Conservative rule #1'
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'seems I'm not the only one making this connection. first search result for 'bane speach people': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmIgBQ6oSCM&spfreload=10 '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'trump sucks'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'no debate there, channel killer.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Agreed'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'lol'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'move it to gossip'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'rofl'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Let It Be Resolved That: Debates on gossip should move to the debate channel.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'troublemaker'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: '2 minutes for opening statements, starting with Kobus'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Kobus nods at Dwight K. Schrute.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'lets make debate the new gossip'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Filibuster Kobus!'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'there once was a man from nantucket'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'who had himself a very nice bucket'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'using debate as a second gossip channel with less rules could be a thing that only people who don't have sticks in their ass knows about'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'but after a time he tried to...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Crushing opening from Kobus. Impuritan, your opening statement please.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'where are these pretentious people I heard about?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'I should have checked if this was a nocurse channel..'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Can we pause a moment and debate that bucket being "very nice"?  I mean, thats a stretch...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'pretty sure its not tobe'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'ass.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan scans for the IMMs...
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'wow, everything I want in a channel'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'so I'm curious, how is this ACTUALLY a debate? he's president, it's done. Nothing you do or say is going to change that.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'don't think that's in question'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Yep, you can curse.  Fuck it all, go for it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Let It Be Resolved That: Donald Trump is, or is not, the president.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'help debate says this is a curse friendly channel'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'umm, it became a debate because someone said they wonder how long it'll take for trump supporters to realize that they were "wrong"'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Two minutes for opening statements, starting with Exa'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'so it was actually a debate on the definition of wrong, from my perspective'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wrexus: '-15'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'as i said earlier, had already read a couple pieces by trump voters'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'or it could be the exact opposite, unless one of you has a mirror that shows the future, I guess you probably don't know what the hell will happen. just sayn'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'a debate occurs when two people disagree about a given topic, and wish to express their opinions'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'who said they regretted it'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'That wrong could've meant morally wrong, but I read it as they were wrong to believe he'd make a good president. Both are defensible.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'it's not really defensible in any given manner, since none of you know what the future holds. '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'exactly..'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'He won the election due to Russian hacking; which he is supporting an alliance with, thus is a traitor to the country.  He's not the president.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'True, but could become defensible in a year.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'The question was about how long it will take'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'really, because I saw him being sworn in as THE PRESIDENT. I think that makes him THE PRESIDENT.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'donald trump is your president lmaoooooooooooooooooooo'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: ''tis true'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'And if you look at credentials, I think it's fair to say that it's factually wrong that he is qualified to run the country'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'can you fing one person who has said that is why they voted for him...or you just saying that because the media told you too...because I DO NOT know one person that voted for himm because of those emails'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'Did you read the letter Bush wrote to Obama, which was released yesterday?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'part of it said something like, that the position is a lot easier than it's made out to be'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'doesn't matter, he won the election, and it's not like the russians leaked (if they did) FALSE information about your hero hilary, it's not like they leaked fake crap, it's stuff the American people should have seen to begin with. If she was forthcoming, it wouldn't have come out at the end of the elction.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'election*'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'I don't think the qualifications to be president would be much different than having a significant ability to manage multiple managers'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'and to listen'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'He just needs to get over his Twitter addiction.  Stop using Twitter, and he'll be fine.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'what I'm really happy about, is the light this is shining on how fucked up the media is.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'qualifications to be president: No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'not denying that tobe.....but then if one was familiar with foreign affairs and the goepolotics of the world, and that'd be the superior candidate'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'so where does he not meet any of those?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'He doens't drink, but should trade in Twitter for Alcoholism.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'Cytan, what's wrong with him using twitter?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Trump's qualifications to be president don't seem any worse than Obama's.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'He hasn't listened very well. He hasn't recruited qualified "managers". And maybe if he was better at managing managers, as a CEO of a company might need to do, he wouldn't have several bankruptcies on his record'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'although that is not necessarily much cause for comfort'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I like him on Twitter...I like getting his words instead of the media's idea of his words'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Also, I just don't think he's smart enough. I'd love to see an IQ test on the guy.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Why is it that when Obama had a Blackberry at the beginning, it was a big fucking deal, security risks, etc.  But Trump can say whatever the fuck he wants on official POTUS and unofficial Twitter feeds, and thats okay?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'That is the question to ask.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'because he's not a vagina like obama.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'typical'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'I'm guessing they haven't had the opportunity to take his Android away yet.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'He's a Windows Phone user.  Now hate him?? :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'I am just jumping in then out...  I am willing to Give Pr.Trump a chance.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'If he's a windows phone user, then the media was wrong again, since I read about this & the Obama thing yesterday'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I also love all of his cabinet picks but one'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'that does make me hate him a little as a hardcore linux fan, but he's still suitable enough to be president by the qualifications required in our country.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Exa - if he had an Ubuntu phone, would you love him? :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'I don't like his picks except one'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'einstantly cytan'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I would have a lot more respect :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan beams with pride at Exa.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'but I like him anyway, so it's rather a moot point :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'interesting'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'You know, the one qualification I would say is super important in a president is good judgment, and he has generally shown terrible judgment in the public eye.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'agreed'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'And knowing which bear is best.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'which terrible judgement, please give an example'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'mocking a disabled reporter'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'he mocks all kinds of people, he's an asshole, I don't believe anyone has ever disputed that.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Mocking disabled people, bragging about past sexual assaults, encouraging his ralliers to hurt people at the rallies.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'he has'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Birther movement and how he "didn't create it, but did resolve it"'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Wanting to bang his daughter.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Grab her by th pussy.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Mockery in general is what got him to this point of being below fifty percent in approval at time of inauguration, he has alienated a ton of people'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Should we continue?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'yes, because most men don't brag about anything sexual, and I never saw him encouraging ralliers to hurt other people. If anything it was the liberals and democrats at the protest destroying things and hurting trump protesters. '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'he's just overall wholly 'unpresidentially'....'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'ugh... -ly'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'and if he continues to alienate people while representing the country on the big stages, he'll alienate whole countries from USA and destroy foreign relations'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'And he doesn't seem to believe he needs foreign relations, the way he talks smack on foreigners, but he actually does'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'as I said earlier, lots of papers yet to be written'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'He literally told people to beat up democrats if they came to protest his rallies'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'he said "beat the crap out of them, would you?"'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'really, because in his inaugural speech he talked about foreign relations and improving them, and actually met with leaders from other countries today to do that in fact.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'from what I saw in the news it went very well.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'I don't think he won't try exa'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'don't think anyone is saying that'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Its one thing for individuals to protest and destroy things, and another thing to have a presidential candidate encourage bodily harm'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'neither should occur'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Agreed, I hate destructive protest, but I hate people in positions of power and leadership encouraging harm a whole lot more'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'i'm sorry I was watching the supposed trump encouraging violence video'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'I'm sorry you were too'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wrexus: 'I don't know about you, but when he starts appointing other CEOs to government position, I really begin to fear your country will be just one big company.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'You don't have to apologize, I hope everyone sees it'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'lol'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'I have zero problem with what he said, he said if someone throws something knock them out, and in the good old days this kind of nonsense didn't happen. a man tried to attack trump on stage at one of his rallies, hell i'd want him punched in the face if I was were him,. he's just saying what he believes and I really don't have a problem with it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'i know W....he complained about Wall Street and lobbyist and corporate America...and then he picks people from all those categories to fill his cabinet'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'he is literally putting people who tried to sue/defeat the departments who regulate them, in charge of the fugging departments they've spent their lives trying to neuter'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'wrexus well as long as our "company" is making money, I could care less'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'indeed jainnah'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Well, I'm not asking you to have a problem with it, I just don't think its too much to ask to have a president that doesn't encourage vigilante justice. Dealing with harmful behavior is for the police, not random trump supporters.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it's only for the police if it's a public affair...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'We are now in one dangerous fucking position, two groups vying for control of the country, and whoever is in charge violently is jerking the wheel their direction'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'I don't think he was supporting it, he said they should be, it's his opinion, is the president not allowed to have an opinion? my opinion agrees with his, but yours might not. but that's the great thing about America, you don't have to give a shit about my opinion, you can ignore it and go on about your way and believe that a peaceful arrest for a man trying to attack another man is going to happen. that, that man is going to happily skip to jail and likely "not" get roughed up. I mean you have the right to your ridiculous opinions also.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'in a bar, it's for th bouncers, in a stadium it's the personnel...at a trump rally, everyone's been "deputized" to be security :-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and stopping an attack isn't vigilante justice'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if you meet the guy in the parking lot later that night, that's a different story'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'well, if you saw someone getting attacked with zero provocation you don't think it's right for someone else to step in and try to break it up?? you'd just let the one guy beat the other guy up?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but it was specifically referring to active things'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'it's kind of the same thing, it's called defending oneself and others from violent people. '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'violence is for the petty people...and they exist on boths sides of the aisle'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Yeah, he didn't say restrain them, or stop the attack, he said beat the crap out of. To me, that sounds like inciting escalation, which bouncers don't. They neutralize.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'well, if someone was trying to attack me i'd kind of want them to get the crap beat out of them myself, or i'd do it myself, either way. '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'hmm, I must've had a different quote, I never heard him say that, schrute'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'He wanted what they did, done back to them, and worse. That's what I got from his statement. Maybe that's a bit much.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'He literally did say "beat the crap out of them, would you?", saw the replay two days ago on the news'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'moot at this point....bring it up again in 3 yrs'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you're right, sorry...it was almost a year ago, I was just remembering the punch in the face part'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'best guess on Democrat candidate for 2020?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'not hilary'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'wonder what the odds are now and who is listed'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Definitely hilary not running'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'no, hillary will not be back'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Hilary will lose to literally anyone, that's the take away here'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I don't know who looks strong on the democrats side'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'who knows who'll be alive and healthy in 3 years...too early to tell'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'bernie is too old'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Its a long way off, someone might come up through the ranks by then'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'sanders joked he's run'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'least I think it was a joke'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'bernie could very well still do it'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'been hearing Booker talk'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'he says he has no plans to, but he's held up well'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'I think trump will win again in four years :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'No...it will be that crazy Elizabeth Warren'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'i don't think so'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I think so too Exa...but Elizabeth Warren will run'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Trump will be exceedingly lucky to be alive in four years. He's a fat man over the age of 70'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'er, that's to exa'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'perhaps warren'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, just a few years ago trump was a democrat...maybe ann coulter will switch and run for the dems!'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'she's not allowed in'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'we took a vote'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You giggle.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'trump wasn't allowed into the republicans either'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but it happened'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'I started to say something similar'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'but didn't want the Dem/Gop debate to roil'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it is a pretty amazing story, really'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'but...was essentially, but the stupid GOP took Trump right in'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Landus ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'not right in, they were kicking and screaming right up to the nomination'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'true'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'the establishment'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'You know, I see this election as a testament to the failures of the democratic party'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'i was right there with them....i didn't think he had a chance'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'They really got almost no votes from middle class whites'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'like it or not...he saved the republican party from imploding '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'trump did better against the blackballing than bernie did, but both had pretty similar experienced with their parties'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'And middle class whites should've liked Hilary decently well...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'not sure the time to evaluate that has passed Anya'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Still trying to figure out exactly what went wrong there'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'Amya'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'as I said earlier, I look for Democratic gains in 2018'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'ask me...I am a middle class white'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, he did get them into the house, senate and white house...(although you could say obama did)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Well, asking one person really doesn't give the picture obviously :P But shoot'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'hillary simply isn't a very likeable person...she's no charmer like bill, and she ignored a bit too much of bill's advice'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Hillary was a disaster-in-waiting'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'What advice, Abe? I wasn't privy to advice she received from him'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'i agree re unlikeable...disagree 'disaster''
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'for some positions, the shark personality works...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Agreed though, she's not charismatic, nor are her extremist feminist supporters.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'as I said earlier, she was exponentially more qualified than him'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'this is a job application as far as I'm concerned'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'schrute advice on some demographics which got him into the white house, and which she largely ignored'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'and she was supperior to him'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'in regards to this particular job'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Hillary was incompetent and lacadaisical'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'You are going to get the same answer from almost anyone you ask...Magna is right...she isn't. Also, We wanted the borders secured...not closed but secrued. We wanted someone that had some business sense to help the class people out. We needed Obama care gone...it was KILLING me, personally. We were tired of looking weak because Obama had the worse foriegn policy in history...this comes from a military family'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'perhaps'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Catas Tobe: 'off'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, sometimes it's not all about the qualifications...take the lloyd benson/dan quayle debate...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'lol'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'agreed'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the most memorable quote from that debate, which was sound byted all over the place, was a response ot a very true statement quayle made, where he said that he had more qualifications than JFK when JFK took presidential office'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Hillary was only going to be another 4 years of Obama..that we did not want'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'he's no JFK'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'how was Obamacare killing you personally?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yup, but he WAS more experienced/qualified on paper'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'nods'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the email scandals indicated that Hillary was sloppy incompetent lackadaisical and lacking foresight'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'regarding qualifications for the job application analogy, for some people, they considered it to be a choice between an "experienced-but-not-good-at-the-job" applicant or "someone right out of college" experience-wise...and they took the chance on the latter'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'For just my special needs daughter it was 495 a month, She had a 750 ER visit, the deductible was 3000 dollars before they even TOUCH any of it. She lost her neurologist and her asthma specialist too'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'well...the 'right out of' is usually cheaper as well'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Thank Amya, sorry had to afk for a second, But I understand why you thought Hilary wouldn't help with all of that.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yeah, but this particular job had a set salary'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I disagree with literally everything, but some of that I hadn't heard before'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'rofl sch'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'so Amya are you going to drop your insurance??'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I really don't understand the complaints around Obamacare'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'LOL...it is ok to disagree...I don't mind that at all'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'debate drives us forward'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'mostly'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'lol'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'schrute: you've had companies like aetna pulling out of 21 states because of obamacare, for one thing'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I already did...it is literally cheaper for me to pay for 4 doctor appointments and her medicine out of my pocket than it is to carry the insurance'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Why would they pull out? And what does aetna do?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'my part-time co-worker couldn't afford insurance, and got hit with an $800 fine on his taxes...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'they're one of the larger insurance carriers'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'in 3 years, I never met the deductible so ins nuber paid a dime'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'So it sounds like they are replaceable, with other insurance carriers. Problem?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'with that 800 dollar fine, I still make it out cheaper'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'much higher rates is a problem, yes'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Well, why did they pull out if the rates are so high, don't they stand to make a lot of money on high rates?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'prices are so widespread.....state borders need to be eliminated to cure that'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'nod amya, he lives week-to-week (he's mid-40s, but not a responsible adult :P)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'you should be fine unless you get sick.  Of course if you get sick you will regret that decision.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'the ACA is not a horrible bill.....but it needs adjusting'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'it has it's flaws'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'er its'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'the problem is...you have to start somewhere'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'perhaps the GOP replacement will indeed be superior'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'I don't know'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'but...forward'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I really can't relate to a lot of these American problems because so much stuff is handled state by state, and I really don't know why. I guess it all comes back to the sense of freedom USA is based on, every state doesn't want to take orders from the fed, but some of these problems would surely be solved by a move towards more national strategy, no?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Magna I get it. I am a single mom of 2 kids. I worked for 25 years at AT&T. I had an accident (long story not going into it) now I don't work. So I have a special needs 11 year old that I homeschool and a son in college...while on SS....the struggle is real'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'if the GOP has a superior plan, that would be great, also extremely frustrating, because if they had presented it 8 years ago the Democrats probably would have gone with it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Shrute That is specifically how our constitution is writeen. The Federal Government is supposed to deal with protection and transportaion and some other big stuff but most of the power belongs to the states. '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'the states need national regulation....how much is what we debate about'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'a core issue is that "better" is not defined...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I do not agree...I do not want the Federal Government in my business.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Like, if healthcare was federally structured across the board, and not just where Obamacare is concerned, that could probably sort out some of these discrepencies like insurance providers favoring certain states and not others'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the "national strategy" of Obamacare was (cowardly) Obama sold out to the insurance companies'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'we tried it without federal guidance.. that's why we follow the Constitution instead of the Articles of Confederation'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Exactly Xyliz'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'But we don't talk this way about car insurance, right? People are forced to buy car insurance... Surely its just the fact that this is new, and not a fundamental problem? Or is the problem deeper than this?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Can I comment on that?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Of course you can.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'not everybody drives a car'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: '6 yrs....been promising a replacement'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'you are not fined if you do not own a car'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'and yet everyone takes advatage of healthcare'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '(1) car insurance actually isn't mandatory everywhere...(2) for the states where it is required, liability is required but not comprehensive...you're only insured for damage that you do to other people, not for what happens to yourself'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I don't take advantage of healthcare...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Obamacare forces you to by ALL the coverage. You have to by senior coverages at the age of 20 or 34 or whatever. It is catered to your needs. Auto ins...the ONLY thing you are forced to purchase is what you need to protect the OTHER person you slam into. They do not care if you get YOUR care fixed...but no one should suffer because of your mistake...that is the difference'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'never been to the ER?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'it ISN"T catered to your needs'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'i figured that was an experience just about everyone had'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I haven't been to a doctor in over a decade'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'wasn't what I asked though'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'and i'm closing in on that number as well'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Damn Magna...good for you'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'If you don't have health insurance and you get sick the hospital takes care of you anyway, which is kind of similar to if you hit someonelse's car.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Yes, that is fundamentally different, in a lot of ways. I guess I just think being insured is better, always. But I get that people want the choice.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'of course, that just means I have no idea how big that shit growing in my body has gotten'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): 1215 Magna is OK being ignorant of that, personally
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Totally different culture in Canada. I've grown up always having health insurance, and I love that. And I don't have the option to opt out but I would never take it anyway. So when I heard about Obamacare I thought it was pretty awesome'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I have coverage, I just don't bother to go...I use my vision coverage every 4-5 years to get glasses, I think it's been 6-7 years since I went to the dentist'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Sorry...phone...yes the hospital will take care of it...BUT it still goes against you on your credit if you do not pay it'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'it also would go against your credit rating if you don't have car insurance.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'In states that it is required'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I think malkar is talking about if you have an accident...in that case, the other guy's insurance's "uninsured/underinsured motorist" coverage would pay his end, and they'd sue you in civil court'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'which would impact your credit score similar to a hospital suite'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'suit*'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but as has been pointed out, taking part in personal transportation at all is a personal choice...many people in Metro areas don't have cars'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Amya still here?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I'd be curious to see what impact Obamacare has had on health clinics...that has been a viable option for many uninsured people for non-life-threatening things'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'the problem Obamacare is trying to straighten out is people who can't get insurance because of a pre-existing condition.  Forcing people to buy insurance was how it helped solve the problem (of people waiting to buy insurance until they got sick).  Which is why I don't understand people who want to cover pre-existing conditions, but not require people to buy insurance.  (Some Republicans are suggesting this)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'forcing people to buy insurance never solved any problem'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'ME! I am suggesting that'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I don't mind buying insureance.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I absolutely want pre-existing to be stricken, but no personal mandate'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'if they do not allow pre-existing then I never have to worry about it again...Emily will never get ins again!'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I do not even mind a mandate...as long as they mandate you have to have at least catistrophic (sp) ins and not ALL of it'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Amya you don't want to be forced to buy insurance, but you want insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'see above'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'so you want Obamacare, but with higher deductables?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Obamacare was 947 pages long...how does pre-existing conditions wanting ALL of obamacare'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'the Democrats were not even allowed to read it before they had to vote on it'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'ok what other sections of Obamacare would you delete?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Nancy Pelosi told them...and this is fact...you can look it up "If you want to read it, you have to vote for it"'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I for one wouldn't mind higher deductables,  many people have complained bitterly about the deductables so It may be a hard sell.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no need for a hard sell, just like with car insurance...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I basically want insurance so I don't get a $75,000 ER bill.  Or have to pay $500,000 for cancer treatment (I couln't cover that.)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'yes a hard sell for people who like Obamacare.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'choices aren't a hard sell...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'exactly...that is what most younger people want also..that is all they need. That is all I want for Emily. Doctor appointments are not expensive'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'One could conceivably come up with $20K but if you lose a home or business...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'policies are a hard sell.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if policies are a hard sell, then they're probably not the right policies ;-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'any health insurance related policy is a hard sell.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but making them mandated isn't the way to make the sale'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'all policys are mandated.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, they're not'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I don't need all policies, only the one I chose'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I talking about political policys'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I just want to say Thank you... I love talking and debating. I think that everyone has a picture of what they think things should be like IE...some people agree with Communism. Some enjoy being Socialist. Some don't want the Federal Government near them anymore that neccessary. I do not think it is right to tell me they are wrong or uneducated or uncaring because their idology is different'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'LOL'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and amya: that's why "a better version" is such a difficult thing...better according to which of those idealogies ;-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'The biggest problem with Obamacare is that it's success is predicated on compulsory purchase of a product.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'exactly, all I can do is hope and vote for someone or something that I feel best reflects mine....'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'When Congress, and the president determined that they could tax for inaction, as well as action, it changed the definition of freedom.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yeah, shelkin...such a dumb thing to enact a thing saying "We're going to penalize the fuck out of you if you don't buy", and then trumpet "### more people now have coverage than did before, see how we're helping the poor!"'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'compulsory purchase of obamacare is similar to communism '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'The largest tax increase in USA history AKA Obamacare will be nothing when Congress decides to mandate the next purchase of something to garner higher tax revenue.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'despite those coverages screwing over those poor that you claim to be helping'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '(royal "you", of course)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Everyone pro Obamacare had better get their protest boots and self ass kissing flexibilty in shape for what the Republicans might do, or worse yet what might come out of a mixed power congress that is facing a massive budget, or long term debt issue.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'then again, I also have no interest in raising minimum wage, either :-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'me either'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I'm pro-raising the miminum wage, but not to $15 or even to $12, but I'm not going to debate that today.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Wait, what? Went afk for a while, do you actually think the fed min wage is acceptable? It's 7.29 isn't it?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'It's $7.25'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Doesn't seem liveable...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'it isn't...but my 17 yo kid making subway sandwiches doesn't work hard enough to get anymore than that'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'i wonder if anyone who makes minimum wage thinks its high enough. Who actually lives off of it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'ie excluding living at home or other subsidy'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'The minimum wage is a distraction in the context of the modern economy. Most of those minimum wage jobs will cease to exist with in 10 years'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Perlesvaus: 'off'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'good night.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'automation, AI, and machine learning will replace them. Our discussion should revolve around establishing a subsidized wellfair check for every household below the median income.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Nod, I think minimum guaranteed income is a pretty good idea, depending how its formulated'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yes schrupt, I fully believe that the minimum wage is acceptable...it's not SUPPOSED to be livable'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Says who?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'minimum wage is what unqualified and irresponsible high school kids should be paid...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'agreed'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'But in reality, a lot more people make minimum wage than the group you're discussing, and who says it /shouldn't/ be livable? Is that just personal opinion or is that constitutional or something?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if you're trying to be responsible and earn a living, then you should be working on yourself to make yourself qualified to take positions better than that irresponsible high school kid'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it's totally irresponsible to try to raise a family on minimum wage'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Oh, well this conversation quickly devolves into whether or not poverty is a trap. "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" people versus "that's not actually possible" people'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it's not that hard to become qualified for more, either on your own or through programs available to minimum wage workers'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Livable is questionable ... that is a definition that no one will agree on for more than a modest amount of time. It creates a new wedge issue; however, a no restrictions, no questions asked minimum living subsidy would bring everyone to the table.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I'm not talking about working your way up to upper class, but working your way past a grocery store janitor is entirely attainable for anyone inclined to do so'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: '"entirely attainable for anyone" is not really fair, imo'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it doesn't get much more fair than that...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'attainable for most, maybe'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'anyone'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Well, it assumes that you know everyones capacity individually'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'wait what..I missed it...I have to quest dangit!'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'let's put it this way...anyone without the capacity to make themselves qualified for more than a minimum wage job is separately qualified for things like SSD/SSI'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Maybe. But I mean, you're speaking for a whole country here, right? What if there are places in remote alaska where you can't even get work above minimum wage because they don't exist? Extreme example, but I'm just saying there could be exceptions.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'don't live there'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Some people can't actually afford to move, though.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'seriously, people need to take a modicum of personal responsibility'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Real poverty really exists, like extreme abject poverty'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'they can afford to move more than they can afford to stay'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'There are too many questionable situations, debatable theories, etc ... the US government currently burns 2 US Dollars for every 1 US Dollar distributed in welfare; that is a fact distributed in the 2013 CBO audit report. The beuracracy is consuming the system from the inside out.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Well, if they stay they can subsist and if they put all their money into moving, they'll be homeless when they arrive.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if the US did NOT burn that money, it would also NOT be adding to the economy...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'That same report stated that the US government would save 25% of the cost of all federal welfare if the government just cut a check to everyone no questions asked.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'The answer, and responsible position by government is to reduce that 25% by cutting those checks, and then reducing taxation.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'And it's probably not culturally fair to native alaskans to ask them to move. They'd be abandoning their culture. (Oh my God, did he just say culture and native? #triggered)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if they're following their culture, then they don't need the minimum wage job...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin becomes frightened by Dwight and puts on a safety pin, but in his nose, and then scalps someone.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'they're a self-sufficient people'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'They were, a long time ago, before a system of taxation was laid over top of their system'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'culture is different from lifestyle. The lifestyle has changed hugely, and they're fighting to retain their culture within it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'tough job'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Theoretically I would be self-sufficient if I didn't have to pay taxes, or participate in modern society. Traditional native american life sounds great to me; hunt and fish, and fight all day while my wife does all the real work, and then I get to smoke peyote, or weed, and bang all night... repeat forever ... damn.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'much of alaska has no property tax, and if you're not working a for-money job, no tax'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'but in my example they were working a for money job. Specifically a minimum wage job'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yes, and then you claimed that they're there for their native culture...which didn't involve that job'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'If you live in AK, and are paid in Beer, do you have to pay tax on that?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'they can make their choices'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Right, well the fact that the job didn't exist when their culture was vibrant and developing doesn't mean that participation in that job is diametrically opposed to practicing that culture. Culture is more than just the job you work. There's an economy surrounding that culture now, and you can't insulate completely from that.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but I'm not interested in the whining following those choices...they have options, they could move to miami and be a per-day dockworker and sleep on the beach if they want :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and if you're sepearating culture from lifestyle, they can embrace their culture anywhere'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'ask the jews ;-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'But moving to a city with job opportunities would remove you from everyone else in that culture, and it's pretty hard to practice a culture as one person. It's hard to understand for people who don't really have a strong culture or sense of community, it can really mean everything to a person'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'And the jews have a religion that happens to be a lot more portable, most natives are tied specifically to their land.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'actually most natives were rather migratory'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'It's kind of like how aard would suck single player. We wouldn't be able to debate like this :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'they're tied to "te land", not "their land"'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Not from alaska to miami they weren't'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but alaska to canada and northern US, they were'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'This debate is just asking for some nutjob interjection ... so while we're on the topic of defending traditional culture, in modern times, does this only apply to native americans, or does this apply to Europeans, Africans, etc ... ?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'You can defend which ever culture you want to. I certainly won't.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Because well, what if all those political, and war refugees from the middle east want to practice their traditional culture?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'oh I can feel the pressure for the crazy to start coming out *grabs the popcorn*'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'You called?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'ROFL!!!!'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'The bottom line is that places with tons of jobs aren't really "the land" anymore, they're usually filled with skyscrapers'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'The land?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Yeah, like, wilderness and shit'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the land, from my comment'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'rofl, schrute, I "heard" that in "Hightower's" voice from police academy'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'A florist?!? Yeah, you know, flowers & shit?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dwight K. Schrute laughs out loud at you.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that was while they were carrying the cooler on the beach iirc'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I don't generally defend just any old culture, or the idea of "culture" generally, cause there are terrible awful cultures out there.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I just happen to think native culture is pretty awesome.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I like wilderness'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'and shit'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, a whole lot of native cultures were as awful as any others'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'enough warring barbarians raping other native cultures'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Yeah, they were, there are definitely colonial elements that helped out big time, like police :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So do you support traditional Huron Culture? Or just Inuit Culture?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'but these days they're pretty bomb'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I don't know enough about very many individual bands or tribes. I live on traditional ojibwe and anishanaabe land, and they've both been excellent and gracious hosts to us.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'In the modern age. Obviously they warred with my ancestors.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'But these days they bring a lot to the community'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I am 1/8 native...not that any of you care....'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Its as interesting as anything else :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'My skin tone is crazy dark for my Scottish heritage, I've always suspected cross breeding with metis in my history, never looked into it though'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Anyway, ojibwe, great folks.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'What were we debating? Police Academy?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'III was my favorite'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that didn't hurt...that didn't hurt...that didn't hurt....:step:that hurt'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I'm glad we had this talk'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Make debate great again'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'LOL'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'P A II was unbelievable crap - never liked that movie series'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You decide the only way to have some quiet is to gag Xyliz.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'it was no Airplane!'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Airplane was okay, Airplane 2 was horrid'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'drop that stereo before I blow your goddamn nuts off, asshole!'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'too much shlapshtick'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'it was no Caddyshack'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'they were both HYSTERICAL'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you've got a pool over there?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'we have a pond in the back...we have a pond and a pool...the pond would be good for you'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Caddyshack was bad -- the main actor was somewhat bleh'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'be the ball'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Caddyshack was no Night at the Roxbury'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'BillMurray?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Chevy Chase Show was painful to watch'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Night at the Roxybury was stupid'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'Hot Shots!'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'part deux'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'take my lucky wart'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'Not a super common movie, but Top Secret was funny.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that was the val kilmer one, right?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'yup'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Hot Shots" is for USAmerican gun-ho idjots'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, that's Team America :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'hot shots was a top gun/rambo spoof'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin returns to keyboard post chastizing from his wife who does not approve of his trolling techniques ...
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the female lead actress of "Top Secret" was an eyesore - spoiled the movie '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'although I just saw a thing for an old British show called Stingray, and it reminded me of Team America'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'We're likely to get a whole lot of team America in the next 4 years.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'tell da bitch to shut her piehole, shelkin :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You launch your weapons at Shelkin, knocking him through the wall!
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'If I spoke to my wife that way she would choke me out.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Shotgun Surfin" was an okay song - great NRA culture'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'rofl, you ever hear bill burr's bit about sleeping on the couch?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin googles that
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I love it when bitches shut their pieholes'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Oh man'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Such bitches'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Hot Shots" was a spoof ?!? - seemed more like USAmericans acting USAmerican'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'I don't know if this is a debate anymore. Can we move this to gossip channel?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzgadoLEVFk...2:36 seconds in you'll like ;-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'What if we made firm stances then went to Ad hominem attacks?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dwight K. Schrute nods at Ontuct.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dwight K. Schrute approves
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'this is a debate you jerk!'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You've had quite enough of this nonsense! Mustering the wittiest reply you can think of, you shout, "NO U!11 Ontuct!!"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'you piece of shit...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Am i doing it right?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You sneakily poop in Dwight K. Schrute's shoes! They're in for a surprise!
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I was called an asshole in a debate a while back, when I said Ad Hominem was not a valid point in his argument, he called me an asshole again'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if "Hot Shots" was a spoof, then maybe "Apocalypse Now" was also a spoof'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Sounds like a solid debate tactic. Character assassination ftw'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'holy shit, dan rather advertising a journalism course'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dwight K. Schrute laughs out loud at Xyliz.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'ROFL'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'That dude, that Bill Burr is describing that has been sleeping a couple nights on the couch ... he must be talking about me.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'is your wife into MMA?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Yes ...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if not, grow a pair and sleep in your own fucking bed :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'in that case, get into it too and hold your own :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'We also had to stop watching MMA at home because my daughter was whooping the shit out of her brothers, and cousins.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'do you think Rhonda Rousey will still be in AMA?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'MMA'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'She didn't announce retirement yet, right?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I think she will take a "hiatus" and then come back under some big comeback guise. I don't think she wants to stay, but Dana White is a real real promoter.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'only if she sees a sports psychologist...she's still got the skills, but she's totally shellshocked'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dwight K. Schrute pauses for a moment then googles frantically
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I think DW is going to spin this for a huge payday'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'she has grappling skills, but when it came to taking punches she wasn't looking so good'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, he spun 207 for a huge payday...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'ontuct: she has looked OK at that in the past...but it was a PTSD flashback when the first real hit came this last match'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'she has to "get over that" before she can do well again'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: '... btw worst thing ever to listen to is the entire pale emperor album done acoustically. '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'it is a weakness, and anyone will attack her with it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yes, but the weakness is a lot more psychological than technique'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'A lot of people are talking shit about what happened but we all need to contemplate how likely it is that Ronda could kick our asses in a street fight.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'she does need a good striking coach, definitely, as well'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'she'd definitely take me out'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '(dunno that I'd mind all that much either :P)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I think that style of fight that Nunes brought to her, she was ill prepared for.... that being said I'd not fight her'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'sports is boring'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'Even Curling?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Said no one ever'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Said no one ever'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Said no one ever'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Said no one ever'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Said no one ever'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'or a good 7 week cricket match'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Whoa computer ... stop glitching there.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'MMA <-- idjots causing braindamage to each other (for lots of coin) '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin never had mudlet issues when he was Linux ... damn W10
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chimalli: 'thats boxing, not mma'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'MMA = proving what really works in a fight'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I think boxers do more damage because they wear gloves'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chimalli: 'they take more brain abuse'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Exhibit B: Football players'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'yup, you'd give up prior to the damage bare knuckled'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'football players need soft helmets'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I watched curling when growing up on the border'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Football players need to return to no helmets, nothing but soft pads.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'They also need to ban oxygen on the sidelines.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'all oxygen?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Xyliz THWAPS Shelkin for being a moron.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Just medically compressed... not O2 found in atmospheric air'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin sees what you were doing there ...
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin does that sign language watching you thing to Ontuct
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'no protection is not good'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'It would likely be better then hard helmet battering rams'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'their playing football, not making a giant gay orgy pile.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'they're*'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'unless Shelkin meant "their playing football is making a giant gay orgy pile."'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Sorry, brain doesn't work like it use too since all the concussions from various sports.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Are bar fights sports?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'beer league sport maybe'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin is winning ... not really
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some watch sports for the blood and carnage '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'hockey FTW :-)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"hard helmet battering rams" -- blunt force damage'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'internal bleeding, bone injuries, dislocations, torn tissue '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Red 2" is a ludicrous movie  (currently showing free on W 602 Vu) -- features Bruce Willis, John Malkovich, Helen Mirren, Mary-Louise Parker '
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So ... on facespace, local group, this dude posts his 360 panoramic of him protesting with the women in DC ... right in the middle of his default frame some dude is standing there holding up a sign "A grizzly ate my homework!". So of course I'm cracking jokes about it. And now the facespace crew is telling me to STFU, and stop detracting, etc ... and I am like, did you even look at the pictures? Did this dude even look at the pictures he posted? How is no one else seeing what I am seeing, front and center ...'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Does this make me an asshole for actually looking at the picture instead of just giving blanket hash, or solidarity?'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'if you think for yourself, you're a dick'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dwight K. Schrute: 'Does it? No. Will they believe it does forever? Yeah, probably'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Damn ... asshole again; ugh why am I the asshole every time.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I think it is funny as shit'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'if it makes you feel better, I would of done the same thing.'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Ok, so I am at least a normal asshole ... again'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"would have done"  not "would of done"'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'which "facespace crew" - the facebook administration or those (wannabe) criminals or ..'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'A large percent of the MUD gives a crap about the rest's political concerns. Aye or Nay?'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I said "at least some segment" not a large percentage btw.'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Is that a Nay?'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'all the americans are in bed, only people on are australians and chinese gold farmers'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I used to care about others concerns so I could see things that I might not have noticed. But no one actually listens. They just spend a crap load of times telling other why they are right and others are wrong...so no one really gives a crap about others concerns...they just want to tell them they are wrong'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Counted as an Aye'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'LOL'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'and I am american'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'As am I'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'But are you Canadian?'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'that would be a no'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Jerry Brown is my President'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Ooops forgot the # #JerryBrownIsMyPresident'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'never heard of jerry brown, sounds like a brown jerry'
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica dances on a Moonbeam
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'member when almost all of Barack Obama's abuses of power and pre-electoral scandal went completely ignored because hope and change'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'but everybody loses their shit over a Trump election?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'i member'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'remember when people lost their shit over hillary using a private email server'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'and then a bunch of his cabinet does?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'ooo i member'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'can you imagine what would happen if people decided to protest something that would actually mean something?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'abortion rights mean something'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'what is the meaning of mean?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'they really dont'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'that shouldnt even be an issue'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'the government shouldn't have any input into that area'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: '"mean" as a word has the most annoying sound'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'you're correct there, it should have been settled 40 years ago. if you don't like it, don't have one. it's not government's business'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'nod'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'i was talkin more like abolishing the IRS, ending all foreign aid'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'stuff that would actually affect me.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'foreign aid affects you? '
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'ultimately, yes. that's tax dollars.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'that's nation building.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'I suppose.. a drop in the bucket, way more of your tax money goes toward global military intervention'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'well taxation is theft so...'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'But, if you're going to be ideologically consistent. I suppose you disagree with that too.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'taxation is because it's cheaper for everybody to pay for roads than you build your own.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'except that's not how it works'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'We should absolutely curtail foreign aid.  It is the responsibility of a country to take care of its own citizens, and if the country won't do that, it falls to the citizens to take control and make the changes that need to be made.  These people yelling about this don't compute with me at all.  What is so hard to understand about this concept?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'the taxes never go away. you can set up a tax fund for roads. then, when all the roads have been build, that's still not your money to say, okay, we're done with roads i'll take my money back'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Well, you can't very well take back what you've spent'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'the government does :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'classic american libertarianism. works very well until we find something we like that isn't profitable. '
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'such as....?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'libertarianism is americanism at its core, it's a shame we never really got to try it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'sure... small l libertarianism certainly is.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I just really, really, *really* hope the American oilfield comes back, and that jobs in general come back, because it's really disheartening to work your ass off, only to get a paltry peanuts check that is gone before you even receive it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'That's just really disheartening, and it's no wonder mental illness is such a big problem nowadays because this kind of stress drives people crazy, and I don't blame some folks for going off the deep end because of it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'and by small l I mean the concept that less is more and leave people the heck alone as long as they aren't interfering in your right to be left alone. '
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'a great idea until someone came up with the brilliant concept of corporate personhood.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'That was the supreme court that screwed that up.  Terrible decision that completely poisoned campaigning and lobbying'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'schools are more important than oilfields nowadays. but thats imo. no one would elect me here when i'd go out with this message'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'And I think lobbying needs to go away.  It needs to be banned.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'We can't afford to fund schools without the job base to supply the necessary taxable income'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'It's gotten so bad that school districts are having to lie and mislead the people into passing their levies'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'the problem is the response to jobs is always'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'What about Citizens United?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: '"we need a jobs bill"'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'in 1819, they screwed that up.. '
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'we want the government to give us jobs'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'trustees of dartmouth college v. woodward'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Citizens United is the supreme court's biggest blunder.  Every justice that voted for it should have been impeached at once.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'and that's pretty counterintuitive'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'We don't want the government to give us jobs'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I think it's more about not wanting to starve or watch your children starve'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'We want the government to create a tax, regulatory, and economic climate that is conductive to companies opting to hire domestically rather than overseas.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'n'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'It is the government's responsibility and prerogative to create such a climate - it's part of the government's responsibility to be good stewards of the country and set things up for domestic success.  The government hasn't been doing that and that's why we have Donald Trump now.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'We cannot force companies to do anything.  Appealing to their morality is a lost cause.  We need to appeal to corporate greed.  Create an economic climate in which corporate greed is most sated by hiring domestic rather than foreign.  Greed is our ally here, we need to exploit it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'i wonder what the saudis are going to do in 20 years. they have built an environment that needs zillions to maintain that just aren't there after oil aint so popular no more'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'it will be american territory in 20 years :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'probably:{'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Without oil it is worthless :/'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'The Saudis were arrogant and stupid.  No industry diversification for 50 years?  Let them eat sand.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'to America'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'damn. :P*'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'The Saudi government is the only one to blame, but the people who will starve?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'the saudi's arent to blame'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'norwegians have their banks full. safe for 200 years.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'the US implanted the Saudi government'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'or more'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Saudi Arabia never saw shale oil coming.  They never even saw it.  And then, when they did see it, they were arrogant enough to dismiss it as a non-issue.  Well, facts are facts.  Saudi Arabia needs to sell a barrel of oil for about 100 dollars to be profitable, but we can produce shale oil for about 60 dollars a barrel, and we have four times the oil reserves as Saudi Arabia, once you account for the Canadian tar sands and oil shale (which is different than 'tight shale').'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I feel uncomfortable referring to Saudis as a whole when very few Saudis have any say in anything'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Saudi Arabia will never again be the controllers of the oil-bearing world.  The United States is that leader now, because we have four times as much as they do, and we can produce it at half the cost.  Let Saudi Arabia eat sand.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'that'd be like russia invading america and the russians saying "well it's their fault, they elected this person or that person"'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'when we really had no say in it'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'If the Saudi people don't want to abandon their 12th century barbaric religion and/or stand up against their idiot leaders, it's their own fault and they're welcome to their catastrophe.  Let them eat sand.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Oh great, now I get ot hear about Islam being inherently violent'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Nevermind all the times the bible calls for genocide'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'all religion is inherently violent'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I agree Syntax'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Have you read the Koran?  No?  Go read it.  It is violent from the second chapter, and if you don't believe me, go read the gorram book.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Sadly, when you remove religion, it is not better'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'religion was born in violence'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I have the advantage of having read both ;)'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'And nobody is saying "remove religion" please stop with the red herrings and putting words in my mouth.  Nobody said remove it.  I'm saying if the Saudi people don't like the conditions in their country it's on them to change it by whatever means are necessary.  If they won't do it?  Let them eat sand.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Wait, in which religous text does god ask for chidlren and women to be sacrificed in fire, because he likes the smell of burning flesh?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'that's moloch, right?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'And the god of abraham :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Irrelevant red herring, please stop insulting us'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'member when god flooded the entire earth and killed everybody :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'If you are insulted by tyour religious texts bening quoted, choose a different religion. '
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Sadly getting rid of religion only leads to something worse'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'saccing women and children didn't help incas'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'were they incas even:P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Anyway, you have no argument so quit while you're ahead and stop making yourself look bad.  It's on you.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'triggered'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Are you a fundamentalist?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'The American people have spoken and we're going to go forward making this country great again, it's going to happen.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Actually no, Rural america has spoken, and the rest of america has to ocme along'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: '3 million more spoke something else :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'unless you really by into trump's retarded claims of 3 million undocumented voters '
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'i cant say religion sucks. just because being in a church while being completely ignorant about the whole thing does good'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'back to the facade of choice...like trump and hillary and obama and bush aren't all the exact same person'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'buy'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'And those 3 million are going to benefit and when they do they'll fall in line, because things are going to be great.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'you are so the opposite of woke it's ridiculous'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'moar walls...that'll help :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'and reading atheistic philosopgy is really bad for the mood:P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I absolutely believe there are millions of undocumented voters, because one party benefits directly from them, and it's ludicrous to believe that people like Soros won't put money into getting them onto the rolls.  All voting should require ID and proof of citizenship no exceptions and if illegals don't like they can go pound sand, or eat it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Here is what I think they should do about illegals in this country.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Do you have any evidence of this? Besides Trump or hsi press secretary'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'If a person is here illegally but that is their only crime, if the only thing their guilty of is being an illegal immigrant but otherwise they haven't hurt anything, they need to be offered a path to normalizing their relationship with the US, without deportation.  I think that would be a very reasonable approach.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Also Democrats, even before the election, hold a minority of tate legislators, Especially in the south'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'us is a perfect country for that also. its built on immigrants'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'state'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'you blame american's problems on illegals... but why are they here?  because people will hire them because they're cheaper than citizens. so why not blame the greed of the wealthy instead?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'The way I'd do it is, they have to apply for it and basically confess that they're illegal.  They would get an immediate stay of deportation pending a review of their criminal history.  If nothing comes back, their status is converted to resident alien and they're issued a green card.  After that, they'll be eligible for citizenship after a time period of 7 years minus the time they've already been here, or 2 years, whichever is greater.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I think that would be very reasonable, and I'd like to see them implement it with a few deportations as necessary.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'what if i sneak into US and be silent. what will they do with me then?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'like completely mute'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'If you did that, you take the risk of being reported and deported.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Rimil is now ignoring you.  Triggered.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'but where?!?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'you cant deport me if you dont know where im from'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I actually don't want to see people deported if their only crime here is being an illegal immigrant.  If they're contributing as if they were already a citizen, I want their status converted to legal and I want them to have a path to become a citizen.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'being an illegal immigrant automatically shows you are willing to break laws which arent the people we want'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'imo'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'some break the law to avoid being killed'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'A lot of these people are coming here for the right reasons, I think.  I think the US does have a policy problem when it comes to getting the right people over here.  Sometimes you get so desperate that you break the law just to survive and I can't justify destroying those families because they had to run from something bad.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'also, just because something is a law, doesn't make it right or wrong'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'or moral or not, so not a great measuring stick'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'So, we need to take care of the illegals who are here but aren't hurting anything, and we need to drive out the ones who are causing harm.  The latter are a minority and the policy approach needs to take that into very good account.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'So, we've got to be humanitarian about this but we do need to put our foot down and enforce our borders and laws, and to change those laws where necessary.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'we don't need to 'take care' of anyone. We don't need to send the dreamers home...but we don't need to take care of them either'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'i cant see whats the issue with immigrants is really. US is built on immigrants, there shouldn't be some nationality issues whatsoever. if there is no room for any, then i can see a problem'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Illegals'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'By 'take care' I mean offering them a path to normalizing their positions in the country and getting them out of illegal status, IF that can be justified in terms of benefit to the country as a whole.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Sorry'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I wonder how Texas would do without illegal immigrants'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I agree with that Impuritan...'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'we would do fine'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Not that this is what nayone is calling for'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'in 100 years most likely all the world is completely mixed and messed up'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'home depot would be way less busy at 4 AM'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I am in Texas'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'The world has been messed up for millenia :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'not enough still. railroads are still new'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I am too. For state programs we use a sales tax'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'As to that, Rimil, this is where the government can step in by altering the economic climate such that illegals are no longer required'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'We do not have a state income tax.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Correct'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Well, there is your first mistake'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'no no no'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'If you don't want a tax, then deal with being broke'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'And illegal immigrants do not quality for welfare'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'do not kid yourself'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'How would they qualify?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'If you don't want a tax, then deal with being broke.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'what the actual fuck? :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Welfare programs require proof of citizenship :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Money doesn't grow on trees, so get it somewhere or don't have it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Impuritan We are not broke...not even close. Texas is doing fine.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Good for you.  Your state still shouldn't profit from illegals.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'And how does Texas collect revenue?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'sales tax'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'sales tax.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'instead of taking your money up front, we actually let you buy shit first'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'and then take it'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'exaxtly'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'it works for us...I do not have to file two tax forms'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'If it works, great'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'If not, change it, or eat sand.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'ok, im ready for another flood.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'And how much of that income comes from people who cnanot take food stamps and cnanot qualify for medicaid?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'are they here illegally?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Great talking to you all, I have to go to work now.  Best wishes for a good day and I'll catch you all later. :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Yes :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'because if they are....don't care.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Bye Impuritan'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'If you remove them what happens to the state revenue?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Who is removing them?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'So you want illegal immigrants to prop up your state legislature? '
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Or do you want to have them transition to legal citizens?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'you didn't answer my qyestion'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'it is a retarded question, but illegals are part of why the texas budget works :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'it kind of has to'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I do not have a problem with them having a path to being legal'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I do not have a problem with Mexicans being here. My is is Mexican and my daughter is half. I just want them to do it legally, like he did.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'my ex'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'can not figure out why that is a problem for anyone.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I think they should come legally as well, but that doesn't change the reality of a whole lot being built around a broken system'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Welll hell yes it is broken. That is what we have  been saying for years now. I missed the beginning of this conversation...maybe I missed something that you said'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'because that is EXACTLY the point. What we are doing now is broken'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I wasn't here for part of the conversation'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'What scares me the most about Mexico are the drug lords'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I agree completely'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'it is the U.S. that gives Mexican cartels their power'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'You live in Texas, you have to know someone affected by drugs. In 20 years I have lost 13 friends. 11 died to drugs and 2 were shot by illegal aliens...'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'hopefully that is going to end'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'the american war on drugs is too profitable to end'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'profitable for who? legalized and tax that shit bring the bacon home'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'pharmaceutical companies'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'war on drugs doesnt include oxycontin'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'prisons'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'courts :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'attorneys'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'cartels making most of the money, legalize them all, regulate them and tax the hell out of them'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'with all of the opiate addicts created in the last 20 years, it might :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'it should, rimil'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'i agree, all drugs should be legal. and if someone wants to kill themselves with drugs, that should be their right as an american'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I'm not sure if I think all drugs should be legal. Decrimiizied, of course'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'But some drugs, such as opiates and meth, short circuit the the brains reward centers in such a way that you get people who think they are on the brink of death, because they cannot get another hit'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'right, if we legalized all the drugs we could reroute some of that tax revenue into rehabilitation'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'if it was legal, they could just go buy another hit :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Oh I agree completely vespar'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'but that's kind of already a thing'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'methadone exists.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Methadone is still a scheduled drug'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'methadone has gotten a lot of heroin addicts off heroin'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'While you can find a methadone clinic'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Subdoxone can get you off of the methadone'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'lolz.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'my high school got taken over by oxycontin and, in turn, people turned to heroin, now i know several people who have gone to methadone clinics and completed the program and are now off heroin/oxy'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'its not the best but it works for some'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Oxycontin flooded America in the 2000s. I suffer from neuropathy and Segawa syndrome, I know about the importance of pain relief.  The prescription rates however...'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'did it get you hooked on heroin?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I never took it'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'oxycontin costed 60 bucks for an 80mg pill, you can get a point of heroin for 10 bucks'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'roughly the same effect, it happens and it happens a lot'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'maybe 2 pts per 80mg pill but still, way cheaper'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Actually, heroin is a lot stronger'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'i love opiates, but i've never said to myself man, im out of these, i guess i need to go get some heroin'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I'm not sure why you would pay that much, oxy shows up exactly the same in most drug screens. And unlyess youh ave a prescription'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'because it was just a pill, a $60 pill or a point of heroin.. and you're a middle-class high schooler.. gonna go for the pill most times'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'because it doesnt seem as dangerous, then you get hooked, cant afford it but your dealer has heroin too so he can hook it up'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'dozens of my friends growing up followed that exact routine :<'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'It probably does seem less dangerous'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I want people to be out of pain, and I do not want people in jail soley due to an individualized usage of a substance.  I think that is in line with many belief sets'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Better drug education?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'better drug education, less punishment, more rehabilitation?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'it varies for a lot of people im sure, my cousin is addicted to meth and hes in and out of prison'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Definitely. Start by taxing weed '
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'i was messing with pills and got in trouble once and stopped'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'there are plenty of responsible drug enthusiests out there :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'we're working on it, like 7 states or something legalized recreational weed'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'i think canada's bout to follow suit too'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'i moved from washington state to colorado and its WAAAY different'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'colorado is boomin :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'they need a national system for it'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'yeah washington is on the other side, doing really really poor job with legalization'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'they don't though..... if it was just legal, you wouldnt need legislation for it'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'i can still get weed cheaper from a black market dealer in washington than from a store, in colorado, cant touch the store prices'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'well, like alcohol, there needs to be some control'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'you could grow your own, and not have to worry about the prices you're paying at the nearest dispensery'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'we're talking about the average consumer though, the average consumer isnt going to take up botony as a hobby'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Weed practically grows everywhere'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Syntax nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'if its warm enough yeah'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Weed also does not cause detox, at least from what I've read'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'unless you're got a fairly elaborate setup, you can almost chunk seeds out your back door and at some point theres a good chance you'll have a weed plant growing'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'not in washington state :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'well, west of the mountains'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'It's not like your body goes into convulsions and you start vomiting if you go 24 hours without weed'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'alcohol will do that :D'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'and alcohol is legal'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Yes it will and so will benzos'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'yup those two can kill you - the withdraws'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I don't think anyoen argues in favor of the current drug policy'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'benzos arent even fun. like what a waste of an OD.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'well it perpetuates so somebody has to be in favor of it :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'I've never even tried weed, I hear it does wonders for Crohns :('
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'You are right. I am curious who actually pushes for it'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Agent Phillip: 'my buddy has crohns.  it does wonders for him'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'i've smoked weed just about every day for like 12 or 13 years. i never get sick. i like to think there's a universe worth of research we could do as far as supplementing immune system and helping cure other diseases'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'if we could just do it.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'A lot of science shows that it does ust that :/'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'It is a miracle drug for epilepsy'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'The fact that we even have canniboid receptors :/'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Anyway, gotta go. Have a nice day'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'when I SH again I'm setting my whoname to [BUILD THE WALL!]'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Can't you buy that in advance?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I don't think so.  I mean, I think it should be doable, but in the past I was told I had to be SH.  I think.  Been a while'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Been a while since I had to buy a new whoname :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Ha, Shia LaDouche got arrested for attacking someone'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'This Fox News person is dumb.  "Sanctuary cities DO exist!" despite a federal immigration attorney telling him he's wrong.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'As to Mexico, I think we should double down and embargo all trade with them.  If they want to cop an attitude, let them starve and eat sand.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Sand is delicious.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'The Egyptians certainly seemed to think so'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Mexico is a third world backwater, anyway.  They'll fall in line.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Yes, when the US becomes a third world backwater too, they'll be in line...'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'why do you bother discussing what Fox News puts out? They are the National Inquirer of visual media.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Fox News is the only network with any integrity at all.  The liberal networks have zero credibility after their fiasco coverage of the election and whatnot.  No credibility.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you've got to be kidding me.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'If by integrity you mean continuing to post bullshit before and after the election...'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'wait, let me bow out of this. I don't want to argue about fox news. see you later :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Trurien rolls on the floor laughing at Exiled To Aphelion's antics!
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'bye'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'shut the fuck up, madonna'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'you too, Ashley Judd'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'they're players here?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'And Shia LaDoof, don't even get me started'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Impuritan's just playing :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'don't like womens rights? or just don't like this particular volley?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'They're completely insane, the lot of them'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'the celebs or all the marchers?'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I'm not really worried about my rights.  I own my own car, have clean clothes, don't need to be married or have a husband, and I can vote.  Safe to say I've got it pretty good as far as rights go.  Compared to, say, some hellhole like Saudi Arabia or one of those African backwaters.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'congrats on your privilege that you don't have to worry about things *thumbs up*'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'There's always hellholes and backwaters you can compare with that you're better off than.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'And Arist has a good point :P'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'There are rights that can be pulled from everyone.'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Thanks Arist!'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Trurien snorts.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I wish Donald Trump would execute all the CEO's of student loan servicing companies'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Live stream Donald Trump and Hannity - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghfb9Cfb0Wo'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9KT-G9tMoY'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'i think they should go beyond threatening to withhold federal money from sanctuary cities.  I think they should legally dissolve their governments.'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Debate topic:  Why are the 'shit emoji' toys so popular?'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'no idea. its not even shit because shit doesnt curl nicely like that'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Matanay Soulstealer: 'if trump were a few years younger, he'd look like a mythological hero in shining armor, a true savior!! don't you agree?'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'do you think hes a heavy armor type of guy?'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Matanay Soulstealer: 'definitely!!  probably a hammer swinger too!!'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'i dont see him messing up his hair though. maybe one of those 'bandit' masks'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'i can see the hammer thoough'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'i've read claims that 'alaskan bush people' is a face show. i don't believe them. come at me.'
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'or fake. '
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'sue from below zero agrees with me'
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if you grow a human embryo inside of a pig, how would you call it? pig-man?'
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if it has feelings, you have to be careful. so,'
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i just watched this new zombie movie. it kinda twists the whole thing a bit. The Girl with All the Gifts '
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I hope Trump sees this activist judge piece of crap removed from office.  He needs to get with Congress about impeaching and removing these traitors to our country.'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so, when is he going going to deport his foreigner wife from communist country?'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exiled To Aphelion looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'She's legal.'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Also, not a terrorist piece of shit'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'when she's an illegal?'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so where the people detained at the airport.'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'He is illegal'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'donald is like arnord without the accent :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'You liberals really need to stop drinking the koolaid.  Please.  You're making yourselves look worse and worse.'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'arnold*'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sure, that's what hitler said during his putsch :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Actually, no, on second thought, please keep drinking the koolaid and making yourselves look worse, because eventually those of us with sense will stop giving you any of our time at all.'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Would love to see the democrats removed from government permanently.'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'that's an empty promise! Can I hold you to it?'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'yeah, wow, just think white only bathrooms, I am sure you are waxing nostalgic :>'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I enjoyed (and voted for) Arnold as a Governor. I enjoyed (and voted for) Reagan as a president. Crazy people should not occupy federal office.'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'irony'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Goodnight traitors :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Is Impuritan's IP from Russia?'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'wow, you voted for arnold, amazing :) I guess political knowledge is not a requirement to holding (relatively) high office. Well, trump did get elected.'
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Impuritan likes trump because he is trying to get rid of all those who are better than her at something :)'
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I wish we'd revoke the nationality of these pinko protestors and dump them on Sealand or something.  Lord knows Sealand could use some citizens.'
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Or better yet, North Sentinel Island'
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Surely you are not trying to prevent a colour revolution in the US?'
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Almila: 'you can always do what the english did.. send all the unwanted to america..'
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'or australia'
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'Mattress stocks are down 30% today. Someone won't be able to sleep tonight.'
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'ooohhhhhh'
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'Tempur Sealy International, Inc. TPX, -27.95% announced that during the week of January 23, 2017, senior management of Mattress Firm Holdings Corp. ("Mattress Firm") and representatives of its parent Steinhoff International Holdings N.V. ("Steinhoff"), verbally notified the Company of its intent to terminate all of their contracts with the Company in the United States'
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'shoulnd thave bought sleepys'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Shooting at a mosque in Quebec City, Canada.  I don't like Islam very much, I think it's a terrible religion, 12th century savagery, but I oppose this sort of violence without reservation, regardless of whatever else I say on this subject.  Just really terrible.'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I understand why the guy did it, but it was still wrong.'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Impuritan shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you say that about any murder "I understand why they did it". You make it sound as if he was just to extreme, that he had an option to do something less drastic and then "not be wrong".'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'too*'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'blah, blah, blah'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'donald looks uncomfortable...guess that's because they're not talking about him'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'i grow tired of people saying the court does not make law....those people know nothing of our judicial system'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'so, before i look him up...what's the skinny on judge neil gorsuch'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Landus: 'don't be shy, I assure you, we'll find out'