T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: hey, so just got a second-hand laptop and it seems its operating system was removed...trying to load one now but it keeps failing and telling me to run CHKDSK /F...where/how do i do this?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: probably off of your OS disk that you're trying to load it from
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: it should have some basic command for stuff like that. You might need to format the hard drive first.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what os are you trying to install?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: windows xp professional sp2
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: xp is no longer supported, in case you didn't know.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its strange that it asks you to run chkdsk - perhaps the hard drive has some faults?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: do you know what os was on it, before?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: its a few years old, shouldnt xp still work?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: no idea what OS was last
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if laptop is new then xp may not work
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: end of life for xp was in 2014
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: might/will/should still "work" though
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Iirc, didn't XP use a different disk format than previous OSs? If the hd is formated for the older one...
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: did you format the c drive before trying to install the new os?  i would think that would be the 1st step.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Could try an fdisk.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: ^
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: think its older than 2014, not certain...also i have no idea how to format
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: google is your friend. - how install new os. or something like that.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i think xp asks you during installation if you want to reformat the drive - i assume you already answered yes?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: i would suggest making a live boot of linux to see if everything except the hard drive works
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: the drive might be shot
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: When you put in the disk that you're trying to install from, what comes up?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: live boot doesnt need a hd, but you might need to be a little tech savvy to use it
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: didnt come across anything asking me to reformat
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: what did it ask you?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Windows-XP             
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: when i put the disk in it asks if i want to boot from cd, i select yes, it loads some files automatically then a blue screen appears telling me an error happened and windows has shut down..then it tells me to reboot if its the first time ive seen the message, or to run CHKDSK/F if ive seen it before
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: TL
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is the error with the hard drive or the boot cd?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: TL;imtoodumbtoread
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: blue screen of death. Could be a hardware error.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Yeah, if it's booting from cd, then it's not even getting to the hard drive before it errors out.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: prob a good idea to try a linux cd - you could even install it and like it :)
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: always a good idea
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: no idea, as i understood the message id only find out by running chkdsk
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: It's erroring on the cd boot. I think it'd to the same from a linux cd. :p
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: linux being an OS?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: look up how to make a linux live boot, its not hard and all you need it a usb flash drive
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, Ubuntu is cake for windows users
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Ubuntu is a linux distribution
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok, ill check that..thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: go for cd/dvd first if laptop has it, i find usb boot can be tricky
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Could be worth running diagnostics software on it.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: the live boot doesnt even need a hdd
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: so if its the drive youll be fine and youll know that it was the drive that was the problem
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Linux isn't that hard to use if you have ever used Win command line. It's similar, just some syntax quirks
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: to be clear, getting a new OS disk wont help?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: it might
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: no idea what windows command line is
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not sure where the problem is at currently, trying a new installer will help work out where the problem lies
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: if it's the OS disk. Otherwise, you might need a new cd drive.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: or just clean it well.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: linux is free, so its a no harm no foul situation if you want to try it out
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: You'll need to look up the command list for the Linux distribution you use.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok, so ill try this linux and check if that helps
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or use a distribution with a simple GUI to get started..
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: distribution?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Would help if you told him which those are.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: i suggest ubuntu, its a lot like windows
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, it's like a flavor of linux
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Linux has multiple versions for different needs.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: basically like a version of the OS
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Linux rocks man... I'd recommend trying linux mint for newbies... 
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: it even has an app store thing to help you get programs
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you can see a list of popular versions of linux here: https://distrowatch.com/
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I suggest Ubuntu for a first time
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: well ubuntu is good, too that's what I'm using, but it's not set up quite as much like windows is...
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ubuntu is good except for that desktop manager, its really weird
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Lol. My computer guy gave me one that ran on command line, because I'd been using MS since DOS 4.0. :D
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I think he's just trying to debug possible hardware issues..
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: yeah unity isn't quite like windows, linux mint is based off ubuntu, and the cinamon desktop manager looks more like windows...
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: unless you go kubuntu... kubuntu is more like windows too...
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: but kubuntu's a bit bulkier than cinamon..
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Archbang is the quickest one I've ever tried to boot off of and install time but very minimal
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: is sharptracker still somewhere on the aardwolf website?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's still available. Don't think it was ever on Aardwolf websites, though.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Might check the Wiki.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: well does anyone have a link for the .xml file?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not offhand, but you can easily find it yourself...
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hell, finger opochtli for the link. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lushen Tech: Hey , my mush has crashed , well it just wont start up as it send me this message when i try start it "the application has failed to start because lua5.1dlll was not found."
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lushen Tech: i have no clue how to fix this and i didnt do anything to it
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you could unzip it again but make a backup
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you can just copy the two files lua5.1.dll and lua51.dll from the zip into the main MUSHclient directory
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lushen Tech: ill see if i can do that
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: okay I need help with a simple trigger, this is really my first time using mushclient triggers and I'm trying to learn how to use them
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: I have a simple trigger You have completed * campaigns today. it then says gt you have completed %1 today. okay but the problem is, I have multiple you have completed * campaigns today. is there a way to make the trigger ignore the next you have completed..
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: How do you have multiple matches of that?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: because I use search and destroy and it automatically cp chs after completion 
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: or mine does anyway
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: is there a way to stop that.. maybe?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have completed * campaigns only show up under campaign today, as far as I know.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: when you complete a campaign it shows up at the bottom
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, so that's two places.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: that's my point..
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: I need to ignore the second one
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: how do I do that?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: can you?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Create an alias for cp today that enables the trigger and then disables it after it fires.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: okay I'll try that, thank you very much :)
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nibir Tech: who has fixed version of sharptracker again?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hadar
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: apparently I changed this: You receive 137 experience points.  to dark cyan, how do I change the color back?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: find where you changed it and remove the "" from it
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: err "@c"
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: @c
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: must be a trigger with that in the pattern line
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh or you changed the dropdown box on the right side of the trigger to display in that color
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just change it back to Change colour and style to: (no change)
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: I don't know where it was changed at.. or I would have already
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well if you open up your triggers don't you see one that has that experience line pattern in it?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: it was something else, a plugin added, nm
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: if I want to use the aardwolf mush client in windows does it alter mudlet when logging through linux somehow?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't alter mudlet, but it will do things like turn on tags to perform things like channel capture
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: my mudlet seems different... missing char stats for example, maybe more
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but best to use the aard MUSHclient package on both windows and linux
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: so use wine/mushclient on linux
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that's how the aard MUSHclient package is developed, actually
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: ok thanks for info! going to look into then.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/maclinux is the web page from the aard client's site about it
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: appreciate that, tx again!
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: h I get this Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.  after i clicked on a destructive jotun in S&D Gui, how to fix ?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try reloading - it happen every time?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: I click smart refresh, then on a new cp mob, i get that every time, i hace to rt to area manually then it only works
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: It dont wanna rt area automaticly once i click on mob name
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No idea who - but think someone is still updating - could try talking to them. Or post detailed note with FIRST error message on tech board.  The error you mentioned is when the function is called after an error is give, and reloading should clear it.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: after an error is giveN
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: it worked now ty, reloaded plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: IT worked only ones, now i clicked on a deer from beer and i get again Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: only problem with S&D now, is that i have to run manually to cp area, then click on mob names work.. but wtf, it dont want to run to another area with a cp mob
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: Winkles spellup plugin works likes a voodoo charm.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zephron Tech: Is it possible to increase the font of the input area in the mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zephron Tech: Thanks, much apreciated.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You ever get any takers on that miniwindow bounty?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: well, since you're asking for questions, what's the easiest way to make a text file - start and stop  ?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: right now, i'm just doin a cut and paste into text editor...
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What do you mean by start and stop?  What are are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: just read in a text file line by line?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i have an alias which outputs some ranking type text i generate - i want the text file to start capturing at beginiing of alias and to stop at end and to name the file
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: start = true, in OnPluginLineReceived capture/process lines, ask for file name
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Mendaloth and get his eq exporter plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that seems to do similar thing you want to achieve
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yeah i looked in that file and it looked pretty complicated to me
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i don't have to ask for a file name, it's always gonna be the same
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok if it's hardcoded
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just examine Save_File function
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: OK, I'll give it a second look
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you just need an alias to start exporting and another one to stop (or trigger to stop)
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah sounds like you want a trigger, though the alais can turn the trigger on and fire whatever command you are capturing
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with hardcoded you just do: alias start (capture = true, open io.output (filename)), then in OnPluginLineReceived if capture = true f:write(line) 
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then in some trigger/alias stop - capture = false, f:close()
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: f:close() closes the file, I assume ?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: thanks, Trachx :)
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thank Mendaloth for his plugin, I just read that Save_file body
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok what else
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: miniwindow bounty?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, hm..
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes but I wasn't happy with it so didn't use it
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: improvable or not saveable?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I paid and then scrapped it
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: really only thing I feel Mush lacks...
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have a pretty complicated set of thoughts on how it should work if you want to work on it
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I am not the right person
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: everyone is the right person
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Miniwindows have always been foreign to me
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Cue joke that Everyone hasn't been on in 1982 days...
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I get what they are doing in concept - but heck if I could do it from scratch
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: miniwindows aren't real
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Creating miniwindows in MUSH sucks. With that said, it's also very customizable, too, once you get it down.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: was loading an older plugin and get this error:inv
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok, looking for a stat reporting tool that works with id
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: Yesterday if i clicked on a cp mob, snd takes me there, but today im getting You have no idea what you're doing, but maybe a jotun is up?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: did you remort
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: your hunt trigger is not hitting the message
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: more importantly that is not a campaign mob, it's huntable
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: How do i fix it pls
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: if its a cp mob you cant hunt it
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: practice hunt
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's that the trigger was changed, and so you need to update your hunt trigger so it fires properly.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: I dont wanna hunt it, i want snd GUI to take me there
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: gui needs to know which one it is.. then it takes you there
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have to hunt it initially.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D needs to "hunt trick" it to figure out which one is correct...
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But the unlearned hunt message needs to be updated.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's hunt tricking the wrong one, but not noticing that it got a response from the MUD
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: tech ok ty
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: how do i clear the cexit in mapper?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: right click the room and delete exit
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ah nice, thanks !
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i wonder how to diagnose why my mapper takes a longerroute if i goto vs walkto. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: walkto doesn't use portals?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: correct, walkto does not use portals
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but walking is faster than portals?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what rooms are you moving between where using a portal is slower?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yeah, so weird. the portal use the garbage can. i delted the garbage can then it uses the storm ship
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is your mapper portal using some alias which itself contains speedwalks?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you do that the algorithm still counts that speedwalk as only 1 move
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: when i look at mapper portals, each portal is listed to take my portal from my bag and use it, nothing else
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well what is the path for walkto / goto?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowSkil Pretz Tech: so i have a question that i am sure is basic to most people. i had a script working before but then my hard drive died and i cant remember how to get this working again. i had a script called search and destroy and it worked really well for me, i found it again (i think) but cant figure out how to make it work with mushclient
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish yawns.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: where is the latest Search and Destroy?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nokfah
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: whats the command to update mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: package update check
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but just for you, my friend, there is also an installer: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: that does the package, not mush itself?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mush is manual and seperate then
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i am getting notices for mush 5.04, but i am running package 1887
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 5.04 is a bad update, so I'm keeping the package on 5.03 until 5.05 arrives
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: been having issues with my current configs, so was looking at the update.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what issues?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: stuff just stops working.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i have an issue with a bast plugin as well.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Me personally, I download the package and install it in a seperate directory... so I keep a backup just in case...
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Are you on windows?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: just copy your .db .mcl and plugins over...
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i think the issues is in my .db file
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my installer avoids the need to copy things over, but you're right that it will not automatically preserve a backup copy of the old files
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: like today my miniwin_moonbot stopped working
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did it show an error message?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\miniwin.lua:1539: attempt to call global 'strip_colours' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I don't do the installer, I just download the zip and try out the new version *before* getting rid of my old version *just in case* something's fishy with new version is what I mean
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i have been running the same version for a while now, things just seem to be going down hill for me.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: download the .zip file and start a new, copy your .db over you're .mcl and your plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type checkversion for me
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: leave the copy you have workin' good alone, mess up a fresh copy basically :P
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1887
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: strip_colours exists in r1887. If that suddenly stopped working, then something else is going on
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thats what i though.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd be mildly concerned about errors like that happening suddenly
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it could signal data corruption 
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: there was a reason i was asking for help... i do run from dropbox
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it could also signal a dropbox error
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose the best solution there is to reload the plugin after it errors and see if the error goes away
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, 5.04 definitely won't fix that
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: sadly thats not the only error, (just the only one i have had sence i logged in today
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok, i will redownload and setup everything.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: aardwolf.db, and aardwolf.mcl (and pluggins) are all i need right?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no no no
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll lose any plugin state too if you do that
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless you copy the entire plugins folder, in which case you're also transporting any corrupted files
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: heh, yep.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How about just the states folder?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: the corruption is more likly in the stats file then the plugins isnt it? seeing they are written to a lot more.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least the problem you've reported so far wouldn't be caused by a state file
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, if there were actually a problem with strip_colours the mapper would also fail when you map a new room
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mapper seems ok
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then it's probably just dropbox
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: and really the only info that would hurt to loose (state wise) would be the mapper work i have done.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mapper doesnt use state files for that
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but have you tried moving your folder to not dropbox and see if the problem goes away?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: it writes back to the main db file correct?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "Aardwolf.db" is the map database. there's no "main" here
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the name is just chosen to correspond with the world name
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose I could have done that better, but it can't be changed now
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hm.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf.db _only_ stores mapper data, not anything else
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, this is all just to say that, while you could of course reinstall and do a little dance and shake a chicken three times, until you find out if dropbox is causing this you'll just be stuck in a loop
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to reinstall my stuff, including mushclient, I recommend using the installer I linked earlier and point it at the same directory
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok will try moving files out of the dropbox folder.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you need to reinstall bast's stuff, it's all pretty self contained
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: be right back i will move the folder first.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok time will tell now.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what db format is the mapper db in?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm guessing it's sqlite
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it is sqlite
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: using s&d, when i try to auto run to call of heroes (using xcp) it says it can't find the path, but when i rt from recall it goes to the same room and works as if xcp were fine. Do I have something set up wrong?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: xcp isn't supposed to work over long distances I think..
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: is that all it is? over 300 rooms away?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: That's because you're missing a cexit
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: usually I'd say
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: check out the speedwalk to heros...
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: oh on the way to heroes
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: yeah the open w, and the knock door
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: aha thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: than it'll work, had to do the same thing :P
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lushen Tech: ahh you probably have a cexit mixed up, mine has that problem also i end up in touchstone clan when my mapper try to rt jotun , lol i havent found what ive messed up
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Mine still does that too Lushen :P
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: works fine now, thanks y'all!
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ahoj
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: latest fun filled adventure in trying to write an extension for the Edge browser: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/issues/10396033/
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Doesn't crash for me
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't crash before 15.14986
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Just says "Invalid Character"
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, you're an insider?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: whats a good place to check how certain gpu/cpu combos would work together? games of course
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also, if it's saying invalid character, I assume that's because the box hsa seemingly replaced some of the " with special quotes
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i know theres futuremark but its synthetic
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: sorry for interrupting
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is itself hilarious
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm not an insider so I can't replicate the problem. It works on 14.x
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, it works for some definition of works
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And yes, it changed to special quotes
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: actually msSaveBlob that you have is probably also not working correctly. I assume it opened in notepad automatically?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It asked if I wanted to save it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh it did? the other must be only an extensions problem then
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or this is a regression
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Which insider build are you on?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://software-download.microsoft.com/pr/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_en-us_14986.iso?t=46286999-346c-4a25-8629-5dd2c8c163ee&e=1483626370&h=89cde2ef0c612dfc514e6efcbf684856
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, yeah. I'm on release preview. Your Edge might simply not be complete
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm not even on release preview, I'm on release. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I only updated to 14986 because of this other bug https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/issues/10172350/
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I wouldn't say I know for sure that running preview builds is why you are having problems. It's just a guess on my part.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Do you need the copyright symbol? 
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pretty sure preview builds are needed to develop extensions
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: we talking about the new IE6 release?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and no I don't, but wtf lol
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I know... It's a wtf-moment
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I prefer Edge since it is faster/performs better than other browsers for me. But then again, I don't create extensions so I wouldn't know how far the support has gotten for developers.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm only trying to create an extension because Edge doesn't let you save text files
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: weird
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: navigate to https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fiendish/SaveTextFilesInEdge/master/testfiles/%C8%A7%C3%A4.txt and try to save it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: i dont even have edge dled on my home pc. neverming my work mac.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Can't save it from a hyperlink to it?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did I give you a hyperlink?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You gave me a direct link to the file
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But on a page that links to the file
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what page? I didn't give you a page that links to the file
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pretend I gave it to you on a piece of paper
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: No, I know. :) I mean, can't you save it if you have a homepage with a link to it?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: saving files is the second most important feature of a web browser after looking at them
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and edge can't do it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's actually slightly worse than that...
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: If I right-click a link to something I can chose "Save target as" in Edge
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you pop open the dev console in Edge and look at the source for the page you'll see a bunch of imaginary HTML tags that have been hallucinated by Edge
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: _if_ you have started from a link to something and aren't looking at the thing already
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: edge will not have web midi api as MS said. so. no edge for me, ever:P
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what if you got to the thing via redirect?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: No, I can't save it if I have it open
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or what if you got to the thing because I sent you some text over aardwolf and said to paste it into Edge?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I can only save from a hyperlink on a webpage
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah. that's messed up.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Agreed
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no midi? :(
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now I'm really sad
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Isn't webMidi still experimental (it is only supported in experimental browsers without support)?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: heh. no midi yes. there are millions of musicians out there that no one cares about. well.. chrome and opera saved the day
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: in chrome it works fine so far
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: had running for 10 hours and didnt crash once
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I prefer not running experimental code. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all code is experimental
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if theres a trouble with the experimentality, i can always go back with that midi.js thing.. would be a headache but whatevs
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, but standards that are still being explored
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I prefer standards that has at least been drafted
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: with that midi api, its so simple and all is so straightforward that when they decide to change things, its gonna be a few clicks probably
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, it looks promising. Hope it can be drafted and implemented on all browsers soon. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: btw. i had a horrible experience with web audio api instead. once i almost finished the app and started testing after 4 months of writing, it turned out that chrome was able to play for 10 minutes, then started choking. cpu was clogged
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and there was absolutely no solution
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: so i stopped working on that app. started another with midi api. i was 2 months in and checked back to the old app. now it works flawlessly with chrome:P
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyone here using a client other than mushclient who knows whether the client is able to trigger on unterminated partial lines that don't end in EOL?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmm - not sure I understand the question....is the trigger regex with anchors?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean if aardwolf sends a line that doesn't end in LFCR, it just dangles waiting for input
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is there any way to get such a line from Aardwolf so I can test?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: paging prompt is an example
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh without a C at the end
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ok will test after double
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not your prompt
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean what you get with pagesize 10
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: set pagesize 10 and then note list or something
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the resulting prompt is unterminated
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: [ Paging : (Enter), (T)op, (Q)uit, (B)ack, (R)efresh, (L)ast, (A)ll ]: 
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OK thanks, even better I don't have to fiddle with my prompt!
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Can confirm, on tintin the trigger (or action as they call it) fires on the paging prompt...didn't look to see if there was actually an LR at the end though...
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: Could anyone help me with a mushclient question?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: I have two xml files i want to add. I've never done that before.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: are they plugins?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: yes, file-plugins-add has been instructed to me
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: file > plugins > add 
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that should load them
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: can you edit an existing cexit, or do you have to delete and redo it?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you can edit it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: right click on the room in mapper and click change exit
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: ah, thank you sir!
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: oh, that just changes the room, not the cexit command
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: how do i remove something from a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: What kind of 'something'? That's very vague
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: erm, like if there's a special alias that clash with my favorite alias
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: You can open up the plugin in something like notepad (notepad++) and edit it. I would recommend renaming the alias instead of deleting it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: interesting thing is... i don't see it in the plugin file via notepad LOL
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: but it still works
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: oh! i have to re-log, now it works
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: thanks Grushnak!
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Anytime :)
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have a plugin that parses notes? i want to take a note, and store some data about it in a database
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: can you plug a keyboard into a laptop?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, as long as you have right connection port on the laptop
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like a usb port
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what is the special alias that conflicts?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: I created a MUSH alias l1 and send 1724404107, my bag number. When i type put all l1, it doesnt work. BUt if i only type l1 then it works and bring 1724404107 to the front. Useless now, whats wrong?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats not how aliases work
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: li *
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: So what is the answer
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you need to make it a variable instead of an alias.. and honestly I don't know how to call a variable from prompt line..
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: um.. create alias l1 *   > put %1 123123123
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: NO, i want l1 to call back onlt 1724404107 , so i can use mannully look in l1. get all l1, put all l1.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's easy enough.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I did that with bag1 (bag.1)
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, bah, still works.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Let me pastebin my alias.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: How does a mush noob like me do it?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i think you may have to make several aliases for different commands then. use * to indicate the variable and %1 in send
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: you can do it like this: create a Regular expression alias: ^(.*)\bl1\b(.*)$ with the command %11724404107%2
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://pastebin.com/VD8mwMsG
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i have something like this: 
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mine allows for multiple bags.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably the best way to do it, too.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: get all from bag1 will return get all from 1049120
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: eh, can't paste it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or I can do bag2, bag3, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's the error it's coming up with, Algaru?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i was going to paste my alias, but it says the variable isn't defined. need to escape it. it's fine, i looked at your way and that looks better anyways
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am using Mushclient. I want to ensure I have the fastest paths to the start of areas. I went to the continents and used the 'mapper unmapped here' function and fixed all those rooms. Is that enough or do I need to ensure the continent is 100% explored?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: IIRC, the map that comes with aardmush has the continents and aylor preloaded as of the package date, which is why you need to go to areas added after that using mudside runto or exploring the unmapped exits
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: so additional exploration should not be necessary to find area entrances with the exception of inferno or something
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: now, what should be explored that would not otherwise be a part of a stock map would be area exits in open clan halls
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Thanks, Dash. Technically speaking, how is the mapper able to know those new areas exist and are unmapped? Does the bigmap continent load all the room numbers?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: areas after the map was created, or otherwise new ones are only learned by your map when you enter them. so say if a new area is added, use the mudside runto command to go there the first time
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I see, so maybe I used the mudside command to runto an area, then the mapper picked up that there were unlinked directions
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: and when new areas are created, extra tiles are not added to the continent outside the one for the entrance
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: database entries that make up the map are updated when you enter a room. so if an area entrance replaces a room, exits are updates when you walk through the rooms adjacent
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: how do i include an apostrophe in the in-world alias?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: better question: why do you need an apostrophe in an alias?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: haha...
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: it's complicated..
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: TLDR i'm trying to alias a string which reflects the name of the room where my questmob resides.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: and sometimes roomname have apostrophes
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: room names*
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: then I guess you can just type the apostrophe in your alias.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am using Mushclient. How do you treat locked doors a special way in the mapper? For example, do you have it stop at the door instead of allowing thhe mapper to run into the door and continue running?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you set a custom exit that opens the door
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan is agreeing with that Ayasinda person again...
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have a custom exit to open it but i don't always have the key
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then get the key first :)
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or include getting the key in the cexit
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strykerius Tech: what is the custom sentence for when you go idle?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strykerius Tech: something about your eyes glaze over?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Your eyes glaze over.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strykerius Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nibir Tech: anyone got that google translate plugin working? just copy into an xml file lke any other plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's not a plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is a .lua file.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's the script part of the plugin. You have to create the plugin itself, or run it immediate.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nibir Tech: I'm so not tech-savvy
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Did Mushr1887 break a few plugins, including a winkle?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Anyone knwo if its possible to set up hotkeys to enable/disable certain triggers in Mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: make an alias that you set up into those keys
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am not sure about single triggers but I do it via the groups EnableTriggerGroup("uncurse_npc",true)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: enabletrigger or enabletriggergroup
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: there you go...set it up as a send_to = script
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ok, so you set up an alias to enabletrigger(?,true/false)?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: and send to script?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zhalut nods at Lord Azaghal.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: and the argument is either the group or label?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=EnableTrigger
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello all
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: sometimes i wonder why we still have browsers instead just a sandbox window to whatever they have been cooked up
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because Microsoft was sued by the DOJ for tying their browser engine into the window engine
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its a bit backwards maybe
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: parts of it were genius and sorely missed on other platforms for a very long time, maybe even still
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the ability to grab http://whatever from a file open dialog was amazing
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if windows still does that it's because they got to keep _parts_ of the integration
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure webview is coming back on mobile anyway
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wait for google to get sued because android's default browser is chrome and apps automatically integrate webkit
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think it was rather that Microsoft tied IE to system so much that other parties were unable to remove it
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: remove/hide. same thing
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for Android - other providers are able to remove Chrome if they choose to do so
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its note wise to remove chrome:P
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can't remove webkit
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: heck. sometimes chrome cant use my id card, sometimes firefox is in trouble. 
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: usually one of my 3 browsers can handle it:P
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, I think they should sue Firefox just because they removed support for old ciphers
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can keep using the old version
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is security thing, however older devices sometimes require you to use old ciphers
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cpt. UnderBidder Tech: getting a runtime error from winkles mapper extender. Any help?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: examine output and fix error
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: have you upgraded with nokfah's updates
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cpt. UnderBidder Tech: No. Using ones from Arcidaynes website
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't see any mapper extender on arcidayne's website
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: is it possible to move the area where you type commands in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: anyone know how to turn local echo on for a mac telnet session? We have a few newbies that cannot see what they type
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: telnet -K?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'll hint that to them and see what happens
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Didnt work nuanse
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: set echo on...
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok it seems pressing backspace gives [3~ I assumed it had to do with local echo. Now I'm not so sure anymore
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: when telnetting in a mac
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: telnet does odd things on backspace on all OS afaik
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Yep but I hope there is a way to make it work properly
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: a lot of telnet clients have an option to change backspace behavior
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Sometimes just more functional to find a free terminal emulator that supports telnet protocol.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Robbo gallantly tips his hat to Bishoujo Raded.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse is agreeing with that Robbo person again...
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Let me ask that Raded. See if they have that option
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: without reading it, I disagree with whatever it is that Robbo said.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: robbo said raded is right.. so now we know raded lied and robbo is right?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I just don't know which emulator to suggest on a mac. And I generally do disagree with Raded on principal.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Can't trust those Ninjas.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the telnet emulator I use at work has an option under the "Keyboard" that needs to be checked for backspace to work properly
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's funny how they havent figured out how to make telnet terminal work still.. we had same exact problems back in last millenium....while muddin
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: It took me quite a while to find a terminal under Linux that supports unicode and 'keypad mode' for support under TT++. (ended up with urxvt)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Ifound a website about setting the option on Mac. i forwarded it to them and waiting if it will work. I didnt understand a thing on that site but I'm no mac user
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse enthusiastically high-fives Ayasinda!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: It's all for the newbs, all for the newbs
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just make them install wine and mushclient.. it can handle telnet :D
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I did but they cannot install on work computer
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but the ones that could were happy woth mush
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: install on a flash drive, my bro did it. can you use a flash drive at work?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'll ask them Zhalut. It's not for me.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: tell them to get a job in IT so they can do whatever they want
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Raded just became synonym of Dared!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lsdkfwefk Tech: test
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: FAIL!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lsdkfwefk Tech: PASS!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse struts proudly.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: found it.. so anyone using a mac client should set echo off under terminal>preferences>profiles>keyboard set the delete key to ^H
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm completely new to Mush... How do I make a trigger that takes my current status and saves the values into variables? I've made the variables, but I don't know how the syntax looks for adding/reading to/from variables
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: getvariable, setvariable
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sent to script
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So in the trigger I just type "setvariable currenthp %%1?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: %1  yes. 
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: but before you waste time on that.. read about gmcp
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: gmcp char.vitals.hp
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh I see, so the mud can speak directly to the mudclient nowadays?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: well not directly but give info in easy way
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So basically, the mud can speak to my variables without needing triggers
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: weeeeellll.. no. You need trigger to get the info, but info is presented in simple way
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, aight. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: check the description of gmcp handler plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Great, that should make my life better :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: exactly.. no need to recreate the wheel :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: you can also check how the mapper uses GCMP. open world/plugins/aard_GMCP_mapper.xml and search for function OnPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, thank you! Greatly. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How do I use "wildcards" in triggers in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you mean forexample making alias alias * * ?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh wait... I use a multiplication symbol?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: first * is %1 second is %2
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Right! :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: abe has faq.. I dont have addy right now.. maybe someone else has it. I think most of these questions are answered there
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, aight. I'll try to look that up
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: fiendish has one:  https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki      shows how to write triggers and aliases. 
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Excellent! That's a good wiki!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: I have been playing with mapper and it seems to work great except it doesn't seem to open doors or enter portals automatically.  Is there a way to get it to do that?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yes, mapper help cexits, mapper help portals
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its mapper help cexit, sorry
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: omg!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that one for sure
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines pats Kobus on her head.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus licks Sno Queen Defines.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: has anyone had issues with winklewinkle scripts and the latest version of mushclient?  I can't get xrunto [areaname] to work. gives me a script error message
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finger Nokfah, get the fix.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: thank you sir
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And it wasn't with just the latest version. It's been that way for ages now. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: once mapper is enabled does it automatically learn custom exits, like open door, enter portal etc?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper help tells you what to do.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amministra Amorat Tech: Personal tip for doors, the MUSH keypad settings are really useful for being able to quickly set door custom exits
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: I guess I'm going to have to keep reading it until it clicks because it's not clear to me if once a custom exit (mapper cexit open south) is defined it can be used anywhere or if it has to be defined for every room.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Has to be defined for each room that has a custom exit.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan nods at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Once it is defined, the mapper will recognize it, though.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: that seems extremely tedious
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (meaning you can type mapper goto 12345 and it'll enter any custom exits along the way, provided you already defined them before)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: It can be tedious, but if you take the time it saves a lot later
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not really. The mapper doesn't know where the custom exit will lead to until you make it recognize it.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: I created aliases for opening doors in all directions, for example: opend = mapper cexit open down;down
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: i just want it to open doors when they appear in the path to a room
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amministra Amorat Tech: That's what I use the keypad for, that's Ctrl+2 for me
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amministra Amorat Tech: Err, ctrl++ actually
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: that's a great idea tolman, that way everytime you visit an area, custom exits get defined automatically.  thank you
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: I did one alias. mc *  code: mapper cexit open %1;%1  
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: i though stacking mapper commands required a double semi-colon?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: it does. I just copied and pasted without thinking to add the second ; back so it would need another ; between the %1's
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: then to use that arf, you would just "mc {direction}" instead of "open" for it to get added to mapper?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: yeah. The "send to" needs to be execute. Whatever you put after mc it will open and then move to whatever you put in
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: thank you very much
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: thanks for the help with mapper everyone, that's dope.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok, I have Windows 10. I am trying to replace a file in a program with another file. It asks me if I want to replace the file and I say yes. Then it comes back and tells me destination file access is denied. It says that I need to provide administrator permissions...how do I fix this or can I?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Is anyone here?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Nope...
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Emeris!! HELP ME
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: What do you need?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Do you know the password for the admin user? *bogglez*
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am trying to replace a file in one of my programs. I drop it in the file, it says do you want to replace this file...I say yes. It comes up and asks me if I want to continue...I say yes. It tells me access is denied
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: on my laptop?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: did you pay abelinc?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: he's prolly using ransomware
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: trying to replace a mush file? or something else?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: something else
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: would it matter?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: I would try deleting the old file first. You probably get a proper admin prompt then
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: what version of windows, am?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have checked to see if I am the oweer and it says that I am...
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: 10
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: do you have admin rights
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: My son and I have the same Microsoft account on 2 different laptoops, could that be messing with my admin rights?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...before we go any farther...talk to me like a child...I am truly computer stupid.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Your account has to be setup with admin priviledges
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: right-click on task bar and click task manager, click on more details on the bottom of the screen that pops up, then select file->run new task
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: permissions on the folder, it says that I do. it shows me as the owner
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: different between being owner and being an admin account
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: type in explorer, click the checkbox next to create this task with administrative privileges, and click ok
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: if you can get that far, then just copy the file within that window
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris hates winblows :P
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: me too :) only on it so I can vr
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok so I got that far
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: go ahead and copy/paste the file in that explorer window that you opened up there
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...going to try it
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: you got this <3
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: copy/paste or drag and drop?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: either would probably work
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: drag and drop isn't
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: would try copy paste then
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: copy/paste worked...thank you
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox beams with pride.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I love you
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rubs his nose softly against Amya's.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a way to capture remote social in another window?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you are using mushclient there is one in the site listed in my finger.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thank you guys! My kid is THRILLED
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: hey is anyone in here?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: darn
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm definitely not
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: definitely not
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: this is a simulation
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no one hangs out in tech
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: your megahurtz have not been stoeled.  They were never real to begin with.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I made a trigger for my mushclient that is supposed to supress the newb chats and it is suppressing a bunch of other crap too
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: and I don't know how to spell surprss
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: and there is a hole in my butt. is there a MED channel?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: stapler will have to be good enough
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: so nobody knows why this is happening?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You should finger Mendaloth and get his channel silencer. Or just turn newbie off.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: or at least the proper way to omit newb from the output?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But no one would know what is happening because no one sees your trigger. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The proper way? type newbie
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I want to see it in the chat log, just not the main log
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, that's easy enough.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right-click comm log, then choose Echo channels to main
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: right click the communication log, there's a thing for echoing to main window.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: on mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: ok that seems easy enough if I can find it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Here's a picture for reference: https://db.tt/JBDxKZ7WrI
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: yeah I'm not clicking that.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: sorry lol
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: It's a screenshot..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then don't ask for help. Plain and simple.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: It shows the menu option when you right click on your communication log.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I got it. thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I'm sorry if I sounded like a dick. I do appreciate it.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's cool, Purr. Just will choose not to offer my help to him in the future. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: no I just figured it out before you sent it so I didn't have to take a chance on a random web link.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I'm sure you meant to help. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's... a dropbox web link...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: Also, the tech channel does tend to be safer than others as far as following links, especially if someone is in the midst of helping you.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then next time, instead of saying, "Yeah, I'm not clicking that." try saying, "I found it, but thanks!"
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: got it. sorry
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: thanks for the help with the chat ecco! It has been a game changer
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: been working on the problem for a while
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: okay I am trying to make a mapper cexit pick e;open e;run e... but it doesn't go fast enough and keeps saying exit leads back here... ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: mapper cexit_wait #
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: will make the next cexit you enter wait so many seconds
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Thankz!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: Arrrrgggg! my triggers on mushclient are messing thing up.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I can't see my global quest targets, and it makes no damned sense!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: gq
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: oop
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: hmm. thankx. that works. gq ch don't work for some reason. I'm just gonna have to youtube triggers.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I've tried to omit things from the log and it has been causing me real trouble
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: gohome
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oops :)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: boton
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: In mush... If I have a trigger that is supposed to first run an alias and then send a command to the world... How do I do it? If I send to world it says the alias command is unknown.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that acts as if you typed it into the command line, so it'll handle both MUSH aliases and world commands
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, that sends it like it is written?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: and it will see the a cob-web spider 
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, perfect. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Good! The cob-web spider is what I want
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: oops how the heck did that slide in there... i blame it on being up since 4am
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Don't worry :) Thanks for the help :)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a way for "mapper portals <command>" to take a mushclient alias for the command?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just make alias and call that from mapper
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: mine is set to take mapper portals 'autoport portal bag'
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Great, that's what I was looking for
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sweet!  I've got the mapper portals working :)  Thanks Koopa!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: wanna buy an avocent autoview 3020?  i have 2
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: IP KVM
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: stinking mst's
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: is there a command to remove spaces?  i thought i read it before.. can't recall.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: remove spaces from what?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: on mushclient output.  there are spaces.  almost like doublespaced, after a single line of output or a space following a paragraph of output.  i thought there was a command to not have the blank spaces.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahhh, I'm guessing there is a mud-side toggle to change those settings
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: though I don't know it off the top of my head
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a command that will put both weapons and amulets in your offhand?  I can "dual" or "second" to put a weapon in the offhand, but I must "hold" an amulet.  That complicates aliases a bit.  I'm hoping that there is one command that covers both situations.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wear works for both maybe?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Wear puts a weapon in your main hand, not the offhand
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I see that now :/
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: surely you know which one you want to hold and which one you want to second?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, I just want it automated after I use a portal.  For example, I have aliases to grab a portal, use the portal, put the portal away, and then put whatever was in my offhand back in my offhand.  
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The problem is that I would need to handle different cases to put the original item back in the offhand
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's not the end of the world, I was just hoping for an simple solution :)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh, what I do is have an alias called 'replaceheld' that I update to whatever is my offhand item(s) and I call that
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yes but it is always in the same order so you always want to second it 
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can't "second" some items (e.g., aard amulet)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: if your offhand is empty wear should dual the second weapon
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: then have a variable set to 1 for dual wielding and 0 for when you're not and change the command based on an if
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, that does it.  I just need to empty the offhand first.  Thanks Yoshi!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Yoshi is right though
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: yw
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: someone earlier was looking for the compact command?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thank you. that was me.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: How can you match a literal "*" in a trigger?  I don't want the asterisk as a wildcard, I want to trigger on input that has the actual asterisk character in it.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: if it's regex, you put a backslash before it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: in a regex you usually escape special characters with a backslash
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I tried backslash, but that didn't work
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Wait, I think there is a way to tell the trigger to use regex.  I'll try that...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: based on your question, it doesn't sound like regex, since * doesn't match a character
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Cool, I converted to regex and now I can use normal regex escapes.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: is there a lbid plugin, at least to hide the ones I am not interested in..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nope but you can use ifilter
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: help ifilter for details
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for example I usually do lbid -f int 191 231
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and that only shows items that add int and are in those level ranges
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I am not looking for a specific thing.. I just don't want to see sth I reviewed again..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ohhh, so it would hide certain items?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yeah.. because I check sth today.. tomorrow morning, i will wake up and go, what is this? let me check.. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how would you propose that work? like not show items that have their number on like a "blacklist"?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like something to aid you in your memory? :P
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yep.. sth to keep your lbid id and not show it to me when I type lbid is good enough I guess..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm you could probably write something but would probably have to use their market auc id to remove them or "gag" them from the output, and you'd have to ungag them later since those numbers get reused
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: only if I could write scripts myself.. :(
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could probably write something that takes the whole line as a trigger and then gags it from output
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that way it would keep gagging it until another item with the exact same name and number come up
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: kind of a weird thing to do though imo
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and if you wanted to see it again you'd have to know what it was to ungag it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: might be better to just color the whole line a certain way
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: making a trigger for each line in lbid is kinda worse than reviewing them again.. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well you would make an alias that does it for you
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or something to make it quick
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: nah, I will just hope some scripter hears my plea and writes a proper plugin!!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ikr
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds like there'd be so many annoying edge cases to deal with
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so you want a "blacklist" for lbids?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: kinda
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just thinking about edge cases like skins with long names that would all display the same... you couldn't really go off of the item description in the list
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Can you trigger off of a variable?  For example, if I have a variable named p_mob, can I catch a trigger when the contents of that variable are displayed?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's weird, I didn't mean to change fonts in my question
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd want to go off the lbid #, not the desc
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yajan, I really don't think you need to keep item names in the script.. you can do sth like, gag the blacklisted id, and release the blacklisted id 7 days later?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, but that # becomes blacklisted and won't show when the next item comes along and uses the same #
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Almila.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: numbers don't cycle that quickly...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right, you'd have to add that logic
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and how does it detect 7 days?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and what if you're not online.. and blah blah blah
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: time in the table
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: or you can blacklist id wht the time from the lbid..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 15234, 2016-01-07
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so you have to persist that across sessions and save as a mush variable..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not saying it's not doable
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just.. I wouldn't want to write the code for it =)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you need to track both the id and the date and then parse them out later, or save them in two different variables
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, you don't need to track that anywhere near that much...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the numbers don't repeat for *years*
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: really? hrmm
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I feel like we've always been in the 7s lol
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2016 went from 65000-74400
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh yeah.. so that makes things easier
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it'd take nearly a decade to see the number again
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: also if you didn't gag the whole line but just modified so you'd know.. would probably be easier and you'd know when you have to clear your blacklist
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the list of blacklisted ones be 2017blacklist, 2018blacklist, and throw away the list at the end of the year
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: take it out of the system after the auc is up...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or monthly if you want to keep it smaller, but there'd be a bit of overlap at the beginning/end of months if you're not tracking dates by-item
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I can live with a monthly list..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Almila grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm could run your market display a lot slower though
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yajan: you could modify my lbid capture plugin to do something like a whole line highlight (or the original gag idea)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so you're going to be filtering every line through your blacklist
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: someting to keep in mind
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what's your plugin do?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, actually you couldn't use mine, now that I think about it, it's not for the lists, just for the announcements
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I keep thinking that someone else made a cool market plugin, maybe arcidayne?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm sure there are some
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: alright Almila how much would you theoretically pay for said plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm sure someone would make it now that we all know the solution that we've settled on ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Can you trigger off of a variable?  For example, if I have a variable named cp_mob, can I catch a trigger when the contents of that variable are displayed?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ummm probably wouldn't want to?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how are you displaying the contents anyway?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: to expand a variable you're running code anyway.. so why not just "trigger" off of that i.e. just do the script right there in-line
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the trigger itself wouldn't be using the %var, but you could set the trigger when you set the %var
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm trying to write something that will let me automatically go to the room with my next campaign mob.  Right now, I manually do something like: 1) cp check 2) runto [location] 3) where [mob] 4) mapper find [room with mob] 5) mapper goto [room #]
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do know that taht's what winklewinkle's S&D does, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: so you want to instal sd
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: hmm...maybe I should look into that
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my script does the same thing you have listed.. how would you propose doing something different?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger nokfah for an updated version of it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it would be much faster and easier than writing it yourself :p
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, but where's the fun in that :P
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you can write my lbid plugin request instead if you can?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it will be fun!!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: you might be getting close to breaking botting rules if you trigger an automatic goto next mob triggering on killing a cp mob
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Maybe I should look at some of the exiting plug-ins to see how they work
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: except I do mapper area [room name] and send mapper next
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: to run to the first room
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I wouldn't automagically kill a mob, I just want to get to the room as quickly as possible
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the script cannot initiate a movement after kill
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't think he said he was going to trigger goto next mob off of killing last?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: he never mentioned killing the mob at all
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: maybe he just wants to chat with it for a bit
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in her presence.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: mobs are for loving anyways!!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: (for the record, just recommending checking out botting regulations yourself before scripting too much)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nope :)  I'm just tired of manually typing where [mob name]
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nope :)  I'm just tired of manually typing where [mob name] then mapper find [room] then  mapper goto [room #].  That's the type of thing that could be automated.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D basically puts all of your targets into a captured table, and gives you commands to run to the next MOB's area, performs an auto-hunt-trick to find the right one, and runs to the room
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sorry, my last message got garbled because I used semi-colons in it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can even click on the MOB in the window iirc
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, that's basically what I'm looking for.  I wasn't planning to do the hunt-trick, but that would be a nice bonus -- even if it makes me feel a bit dirty
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hrmm.. kind of torn about adding hunt trick to my script... I guess I end up doing it manually anyway..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his S&D "triple pack" also includes the mapper extender, which gives you things like using the mapper to run to areas instead of rooms
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for some mobs I don't though.. since I know which ones are not duplicated (like named mobs, or singleton mobs, etc.)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you set which room you want to use as the area's destination (often the first room of the area), then you can "xrt desol" to take the shortest path to Desolation, for example
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: s&d could use sth like a mqw command though.. with the garbled name mobs and if it's like a stupid guard in afterglow with 50 copies.. sth do to multiple qw till it can not do anymore
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what is "sth"?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: something
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: never seen that before lol
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it's been around forever I can say
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1215 Magna is pretty fluent in txtcrack
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: guess I just passed it by when I saw it in the past
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but now I'll see it everywhere
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it doesn't even count as l33ttalk..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well no, it doesn't, because it's a txt shorthand, not letter substitution...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: i'm looking at the readme in nokfah's google drive for s&d but it doesn't explain how to use it or where the files go.  is there any documentation anywhere?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, thanks everyone.  I'll probably look into the S&D plug-in you mentioned and see how that is written.  I didn't realize I had reinvented about half of a wheel today :P
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whenever a plugin doesn't have installation instructions, that means it goes into the plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and then you add them in mush, by going to file/plugins/add
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: i'm trying to use winklewinkle s&d and it just keeps saying no matching rooms found.  any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you probably dont have the rooms in your database
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it used to work and now it doesn't for some of the rooms?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: or you just installed it and it doesn't work for any rooms?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: just installed it and it doesn't seem to be working, but pleiades is probably right.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: takes a lot of time to get your room DB fully populated
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: then, even longer to add custom exits/etc
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirona Tech: i got a new computer bigger screen... but now all the font sizes are all off.... how do i chancge them?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the different miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how do I prevent the Mushclient mapper from using a specific room in its path? I level-locked  a direction to lvl 300 and I am still walking through the room
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably level-locked the wrong exit...lock the exit before the room which goes into the room
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I see. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Mush question again. If I have an alias called "setpotion" and I want to be able to type "setpotion potionname" and save potionname in a variable... How do I do it? 
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Currently I have an alias called setpotion which contains "setvariable = potionchosen %1" but that doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: SetVariable("whatever","%1") and change the send to to script
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oooh, it almost has to look like c#
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Doesn't seem to work. Is the alias supposed to be just "setpotion" ?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: The name, that is... Or should it be "setpotion *"
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: just remember it is case sensitive, so not only does SetVariable have to be done correctly but the variable name too
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I'm camelCasing everything :P
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: setpotion *
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: since you need to send a variable, it needs *
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: maybe ^setpotion *?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: without the ?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i tend to use the convert to regex button so it doesn't grab random tells or stuff
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It works without beginning and end chars :)
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it is better to play it safe with beginning in end characters, if you can...
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And, if I want to use this variable somewhere... In another alias.. I GetVariable("blabla", %1) and then "quaff %1"?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: %1 is only for capture groups that you captured via your regex
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: when you get the variable you just get it by the name you saved it by "blahblah"
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Okay... Can I just "quaff hosenpotion" or something?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Okay... Can I just "quaff @chosenpotion" or something?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yeah you can but then you have to check the expand variable box on the right
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oooh, okay
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you can not type quaff @manapot on command line though
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I still haven't figured how to use a variable from command line myself..
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: no but you could alias it so qm or something easy
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it's one of the times I miss zmud really..
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm, so to get the named potion out of my bag and quaff it... Using a variable...?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you make an alias, like alias m would be get @manapot @potbag and then quaff @manapot
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: alias with 2 lines ... first line get ot otbag secodn line quaff ot
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: lol forgot to double @
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure how the tuff works, but you can do in-line substitution like: SendNoEcho("quaff ".. GetVariable("blahblah")) in your alias
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: @stuff*
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and then send that to script
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the .. concatenates the string you get from GetVariable to the command you're sending to the mud
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: SetVariable and GetVariable
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: to set / get a variable
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kramercosmo Tech: -m
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Too bad AardMUSH cannot be used on Chromebooks, I think.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: has anyone used xcode around here? :D i have a stupid question...
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadron Tech: who has the fix to S&D?  I lost my notes.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nokfah.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadron Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadron Tech: do I just import the new xmls using the plugin wizard?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Thought the site tells you what to do. Essentially, yes, though.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: the Plugin Wizard is for creating new plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, not the plugin wizard, just adding new plugins. Ctrl+Shift+P, then Add.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadron Tech: do I remove the old ones?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/anom_exfiltrator
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds like a backdoor into my mainframe
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: "they hacked the mainframe!"
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: close your backdoor!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ! k!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have any idea why all jre windows are like half size?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you mean like applet windows?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: yep, including the java splash logo
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: your code or someone else's?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like *all* java related stuff?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: everything
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hrmm.. what OS?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: win10
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ohhh
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: probably a registry setting
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: crapping registry!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds like something you google :D
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i have (a little)
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: bum java install prolly
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i have (a little)
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: could try clearing out any extra old java installs you have and redoing install of current JRE
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: darnit!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: windows PATH settings and multiple JRE installs where one overwrites an old or something like that is a pretty common issue
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: will check... thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can see your java installs by going to folders like Program Files/Java or Program Files (x86)/Java
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: How do you hide the rarekill message?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no in-game command to not show it, you could always gag it client-side
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Ahh okay, for some reason I thought there was one to roll it in with the regular message.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's the exprate command, which rolls the exprate and the OPK bonuses into the regular exp
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: there's.. it's called double exp!!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but those aren't a line of their own, they show as 126+13+13
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Klotho nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Hrmm, anyone know how to delay mopidy's start until after wifi connects on boot in ubuntu?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Or any linux, really.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could just start it manually rather than automatically on login
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Whaaaat not use systemctl?! :P
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I suppose I could just have a little shell script to run.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinghan Tech: anyone that uses the mushclient on OSX?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I used to.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinghan Tech: any pointers as to how to do that in an easy way (without dualboot or other complexy thingies)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yes, install Wine
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Easiest way to install wine is via homebrew.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I gotta warn ya, if you do things wiht your keyboard mods, it makes it hard on wine.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinghan Tech: I did a bit too much wine yesterday, can i still do it?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is a keyboard mod? I am on a laptop and my only problem is using the ctrl key
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: If you switched caps and control, for example, you'll have to do extra stuff with wine.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinghan Tech: I'll have a go
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yes, extra stuff but wine will default to windows keys, i think, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlyZoR Tech: How to gag lines in MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: make a trigger for the line
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: then in the trigger editor, tick the box "omit from output"
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlyZoR Tech: [3] A Mammoth damages you! [279], how to gag those ?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlyZoR Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlyZoR Tech: 9asterisk)damages you!*    works.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: why wont my mapper runto vidb?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: because vidblain isn't able to be ran to?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}But first, Juanito Tech: what's the command to add a new portal via mapper, I've got mapper ninja.. but I got rusty..
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper portal <command>
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}But first, Juanito Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: Would there anyway to set a variable to dual wield the last weapon I was holding after setting an alias to remove it and hold a portal?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: obviously I don't want to set it to a specific weapon as they change throughout the levels
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just make alias that sets variable as you wield secondary
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that way you set variable to right weapon every time you wield the weapon
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, that's easily done.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: oh ok.. mushclient
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Make a mushclient alias where the pattern is "dual *". The * part will be available as %1
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: ok i'll try that
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: wait sorry i'm slightly confused.. 
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: this is my current alias to go to land of legends for example get planes men
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with aard weapons, following a: hold portal, enter, "dual aard" suffices
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: whoops that went onto multiple lines
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: yeah but my weapons change from level to level..
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: sorry to keep bugging right now for instance my alias to use the apple press portal is get planes men hold planes enter rem planes put planes men without the semi colons i want to also add into redual a weapon at the moment its flute but i need to it to be a variable because say at 107 it will be aard axe
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: i'm not sure how to write the variable...
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: with yo fingaZ!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ampersand
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hailskatan snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: the easiest way would just to be save up and get a portal slot wish right? lol
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no, ampersand also works
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sure.. but who wants to take the easy way out? :P
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: zengo could you show me some example syntax if you don't mind
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: whats an ampersand excuse my ignorance lol
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: dual @mysecond
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: that simple? just add that to the end of the syntax?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: well the setting of the variable is a little more complicated
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: or rather the setting of the valuae of the variable
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: does anyone know if mushclient supports blinking text? and if so, how?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i believe no
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: so there isn't a way to sort of set a variable as last used maybe? 
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure there is, Hailskatan.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Make a mushclient alias: dual *
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with 0-weighted aard weapons, when "hold held_item" (and or) "hold shield", later "dual aard" suffices
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hailskatan, it's not too bad, I have an alias named "offhand *" that keep track of what I hold in my offhand.  Just a sec and I'll copy the instructions for you...
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: cool durel that would be most appreciated
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then set "send to" to 'script', and put something like SetVariable("dualweapon",%1)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Create an alias (control+shift+9 to get there) with the name "offhand *", in the "Send" box, just put "%1" (without the quotes), set the "Send To" pulldown to Variable, and set the Variable name box to "offhand".  Then from the command line, you can do something like "offhand [my favorite weapon]" to set the variable.  To use that variable later, just use ffhand.  Easy Peasy.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: thanks guys thats awesome! thanks for all your help!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oops, use the "at" symbol followed by offhand
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: @offhand* is what he meant to say at the end
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: (without the *)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yeah, that "at" symbol is called an ampersand ;-)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, @ is not an ampersand.  This is an ampersand: &
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, I must be losing my marbles, Metria. My bad
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah I was going to say earlier.. lol but just let it slide
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but this is tech! so we gots to be *tech*nical!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: you should'na. I'm prone to error. But I mean well.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: all tech(ies) are on this channel to help =)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there anywhere to get a public listing of the room numbers for the start of each area?  I could run around gathering them, but I don't want to do unnecessary work...
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think Nokfah's plugin comes preloaded with them
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: S&D triple pack thingy
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: finger nokfah for his google drive link
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: actually winklewinkles plugin with nokfahs fix ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, thanks.  I'll look into snagging them from that.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ya that!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ibm assembler used to use the ampersand (&) [ibm 360 370], but the pc assembler language decided to use the "at" ( symbol
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "at" (@)
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: my trigger doesnt fire in mushclient but if i copy and paste the trigger text and the line i want it to fire on into my regex tester it shows me a match
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Did you make sure the regex checkbox is checked?
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have a couple other very similar triggers and they fire just fine
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wow.... im a moron
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: somehow i disabled the trigger
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: freaking out about my regex wondering why it isnt matching
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there a keyboard shortcut to jump to the bottom of the output window on Mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: generally inputing any command will do that
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, right :)
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: so even just a carriage return to do nothing
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: he says press enter
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Didn't even think about it :)
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so who are my vmware experts here... any idea why my GD vcenter 6.5 server inventory wont stop loading? it's a brand new install and i have de-deployed the vcenter server like 10 times
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: we have opened a service ticket for you, Abelic will retur your call within 72 hours
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hehehe nods... chances are he will respond in like 4 hours as if i had just posted, and i will totally miss it
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: in that case you have to work on an SLA with him
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa is agreeing with that Pleiades person again...
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hey abe... i just installed vcenter 6.5, and my inventory keeps spinning.. PLeiades told me to ask you... ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: little birdy told me there is a port that has stock areas like smurfs, high tower of sorcery, etc.  is true?  if so, what port?
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: is anyone else lagging?
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TimeBound Anaristos Tech: yeah, try tech channel. That's my least area of expertise :)
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TimeBound Anaristos Tech: mis :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: does anyone have any suggestions for an ios client?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gallen Tech: most people say use wine to run mushclient
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gallen Tech: i had a mac until recently, i never really found a good one
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: on a mac, not an iphone/ipad
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: sorry, I meant ipad
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I use blink shell to ssh into an amazon ec2 vps
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: I'm using mudrammer but it freezes if I'm inactive for more than a few seconds
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I never got mudding on a phone or tbalet.  I couldn't imagine trying to do anyhitng but chat on there.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: i do it at work but its pretty terrible
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I don't do much on my ipad in Aard, true, but that's bbecause tintin doesn't have all mymaps.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: it's not ideal, but my son usually has the computer. It's easier than fighting :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i need all my mini windows, my macros, and my keyboard!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: i manage to do quests (slowly)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I mean, do you even have a keyboard?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: the app i use is called mudrammer
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: the phone I can't do, but when I used to mud it was on telnet, so even one window with ansi is a step up
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: it uses the ios keyboard
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: that's what I'm using Terrathus
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: it does have some little buttons that let you move
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: but it freezes constantly
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: and disconnects
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: and stops allowing input
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: If you use mosh on blink-shell, or just any regular ssh client that uses screen
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: It avoids closing out your actual session, though you would have to reconnect to the VPS if you let it idle out.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and you dont fight with your son,,,, "I paid for it, get off".  end of story.  LOL
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: hmm, I'll check that out, Klotho
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: if you have the chrome browser you might try duckclient.com - haven't tried it on a mobile device but works ok on a chromebook for those must-be-on moments
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: actually Cera, his dad gave it to him as a gift 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um.. "my house, my turn"?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: and so far, mudding hasn't been a good enough excuse for a second computer
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: his computer, your electricity? :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: then you aren't trying hard enought!  we have 4 computers, 2 desktops, 2 laptops, and only 2 people live here
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: that migt work... though then I'd hear all the reasons he'll never become a pro gamer without practice, hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Planet Tech: whats the topic of the day?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: we sprang for the ps4 instead of the second computer 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: clients for ipads and children hogging computer time :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i was finally able to replace my aging imac and can ow play civilization 6.  :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: okay basts mini window for help is loaded but its not popping up, stays in the main window, any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: How does one reset the first room of an area on the mapper again?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: how do i add a custom exit on mapper for eg enter log 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: mapper cexit 'command'
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: anyone here
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: never!!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: do u use mapper almila
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: more than I want to
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you are better off asking your question.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yeah, no flirting on tech channel!!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: if u explore forest of lidinshe for eg you should be able to get exact directions to any mob with a mapper command right
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: ask your question or begone! Just kidding
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: whats the command to find a mob with mspper
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: not directly.. but you can install s&d plugin which would serve to purpose
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mapper finds rooms, not mobs
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mapper stores rooms not mobs.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There is no command to find a mob with the Mush mapper.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: damn thanks guys reealised my mistake]
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: otherwise you have to do sth like, where mob, then mapper area room_name and then click on the link etc
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: so, go install s&d
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I wonder why aard install doesn't come with s&d anyways?  is there any musher not using it?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: plenty
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: well, those guys would be using better plugins then I guess.. so, it's not a bad starter for new players in any case..
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: S&D is not liked by many including the guy who puts the aard package together
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: What is s&d?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How do I echo something from an alias in Mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And is the alias supposed to be targeting Script?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's an alias to set my chosen potion
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: In a variable
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You mean print to your screen?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, so it says something like "You have chosen Melody"
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try Note("TEXT") or Note("HI" .. myvar .. " XX") where myvar is a variable.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: With the periods?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes period are how concat two strings
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The first example is if you just sending a hard coded string with no variable.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It keeps saying my variable is 'nil'
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Nvm, I got it to work :) Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Had to GetVariable to get the name of it :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You should share how - never know who might be listening and learn from it
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: there you go!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yep, that's what I thought :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: hmm i lost group plugin somehow.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: and all of my settings:(
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corrala Tech: i unzipped the ardwolf client to documents are now my screen reader isn't working and ardwolf won't connect
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How do I add and remove 1 from a variable?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: In mush
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: SetVariable("varname", GetVariable("varname")+1)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or -1, as the case may be.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Could make sure it's a number by doing tonumber(GetVariable("varname")), too.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Arcidayne, are you familiar with setting up the Aardwolf client with a screen reader? I was trying to help someone get it setup but didn't realize they were using one
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: We have it installed, and the reader was pulling from the popups, but it doesn't seem like it's pulling from any of the client's windows
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Or anyone really, I just said Arcidayne because I was he was on
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you installed mushreader? http://www.allinaccess.com/mc/
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: I'm not sure. Gonna try to get him on the channel himself to cut out the middleman
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess if he has working old mush with screenreader - you could verify whether he uses that plugin in old install
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i haven't installed mush reader yet 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i am using anotehr verssions of mush client
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Trachx said the website to get that from is http://www.allinaccess.com/mc/
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i have mush reader with my other mush client
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Ok, so you'll need a copy of the plugin in the worlds folder of the aardclient
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Actually, looking at the readme you should probably download the whole thing again. It should make things easier and avoid touching files you're using right now
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i installed that now what
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Just to verify, the .dlls are in the main directory and the .xml is in your worlds folder?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: think so yup
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: If you hit Ctrl+Shift+P it should bring up the list of plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: it does
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: You'll probably have to add the reader plugin. There's an add button, and you'll select the mushReader .xml
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: added it all ready
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Then, as far as I know, it should work. I'd restart it just to be safe
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: it's still giving me the getting starting page and won't read it
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: What happens if you close out of the getting started page?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i can't
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i don't know how to close it
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Well shoot. Gimmie a second
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: are you able to disable aard_new_connection.xml plugin ?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i can
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Screen reader users: To bypass the welcome screen and connect to the game, type \"connect to aardwolf\" without the quotation marks and then press enter.\nFor more information about the package be sure to check out http://tinyurl.com/aardclientmanual
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however it seems it was designed so your screen reader should have read that info
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: it isn't working still
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: it isn't connecting
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: But is the screen reader working now?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you have typed: connect to aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and is have not worked ?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: yeha
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so I guess removing aard_new_connection.xml plugin should be easiest way to bypass that check
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i did and still no
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and when Fiendish is online - notify him so he can fix it
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: by "no" you mean it has connected but screen reader does not work, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you use now 2 mushclients at the same time?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if both are active - I guess it is possible that one of them is blocking another from using screen reader
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just a guess - but if so - then closing both and opening just the right one may be solution to your problem
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Did that end up working at all?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How do I subtract 1 from a variable in mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: tonumber(GetVariable("lala")) - 1 ?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: this is correct, except should check with nil on tonumber in it somehow gets something that is not a number.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: unexpected symbol near '-'
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ih
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Or is the ? supposed to be there too?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's supposed to be sending to script, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: As soon as I add the subtraction symbol it complains that there's an unexpected symbol near '-'
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: there is a way to always display the current room id number?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: mapper thisroom if you're on mush
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: like on the room name or on prompt
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latino Tech: there is some kind of menu with options to set up ingame?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: help help
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: The help command is unavailable.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latino Tech: there is?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone here use Protonmail?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: anyone familiar with Plex? My audiobooks and tv shows are suddenly pausing every 20-30 seconds and it's driving me bonkers =( 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nibir points excitedly at Vanniluh Icecool!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaelynne prods Vanniluh Icecool into action!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo prods Vanniluh Icecool into action!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: hit it with a hammer
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i feel the need to go google his pretitle...but plex more important right nw =( 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It's vanilla ice. Duhh
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nibir Tech: his pretitle is a dur da dur on vanilla icecool :P
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh okay then thanks, no google necessary 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *gasp* Tricksy Bamboo *lix* Shaelynne! Yoo want a *lix* too :(
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TomNine Tech: sweet crack... which gender?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you mean david bowie?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TomNine demands that everybody stop for Hammertime.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Anyone happen to know what sort of database Aardwolf uses for player data?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I imagine only Lasher knows
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: Abelinc's brain
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Just curious if xml documents are realistic for something of this sort of scale
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: or if it makes more sense to use MYSQL or an equivalent
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: old muds just used text files (usually encrypted and compressed)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I mean, it makes more sense regardless, but just wondering if there's a performance problem with using xml files for something with this many concurrent users
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no idea what Aard uses since it is custom proprietary code.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: *nod*
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if I were building one from scratch today I would definitely use sql
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Writing some software and need to save a ton of fields, and assuming it'd be about as heavily hit as this.  Don't want to waste time with setting up a DB server or what-not if I don't have to.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I would also probably shoot myself until I stopped having the irrational desire to code a mud from scratch.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: lol, yeah, I started playing with that idea years ago.  Hells no.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: are you writing it in C# or C++ or Python or what?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Ruby on rails, mostly.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: honestly integrating sql in most modern programing environments is ridiculously easy
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Though I prefer C# for most things.  Depends how quickly I want to actually produce something :P
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not familiar with Ruby, but then I do 85% of my coding in freaking MATLAB these days so wtf do I know :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I'm currently using some bullshit outdated networking framework that relies on a hugely outdated Riak model database.  And I hate it.  Was thinking of scrapping it and just making my own.  But ugg.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: andyou can't just get something off the shelf that would work better?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Maybe.  I just don't know a whole lot about DB's
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I can write up an xml parser in about 6 seconds though
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Just seems way less intimidating
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: sql isnt bad once you learn the really basic stuff, and the calls in your language of choice
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I guess it depends on how often it is getting accessed and how time critical the access is
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I use mysql at work, and understand it fairly well.  I just don't know all that much about building a DB and integrating it.  Using it is easy.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sql is definitely going to be massively faster than xml, but for a lot of applications that really doesn't matter
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Yeah, it'd probably be about 1/10th the data as a player has here.  Per fetch.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: maybe less
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: It's basically records of instances for my program, but I need to bounce them around a fair bit.  Not all that much, and speed isn't super important.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it is not really necessarily about the amount of data being fetched
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Yeah, there'd be maybe... 300 calls per minute maybe?  Really infrequent
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well if speed isn't important then all you really get out of sql is a better structure
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: Okay...windows is focusing on whatever my mouse is hovering over as if I'm clicking...any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: for me it would probably come down to how long I expected the program to be in use,
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: a couple of years? just do somethign quick and dirty that I can crank out, a couple of decades, do it right in sql.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Yeah.  Definitely not going to be decades
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: stuck mouse button (hardware or software) try clicking each of your mouse buttons.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I would say spend 10 minutes looking at how to do it in sql on youtube or the like and if you don't think you can just crank it out then just do it in xml where you are comfortable
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh well one other thing, how much is on the line if it screws up? jobs, money, lives?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I'd like to think lives, but it's definitely not important in the slightest
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Just a pet project :P
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well do you want to learn how to work in sql? It is a fairly valuable skill in the marketplace and generally useful if you are a professional or serious hobbiest computer program or data scientist.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: If you're learning sql, go for no-sql
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Riak is nosql based
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I dislike it. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Way more familiar with MYSQL, and it makes more sense to me.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: anyways, thanks for the suggestions guys!  Appreciate it
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: in the end its really going to come down to your own personal preference
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but happy to talk through the pros and cons with you
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Agree. I like pancakes.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I dont
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I prefer waffles (with chicken)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Absolutely barbaric!!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: viking barbarian heritage here.
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any bugs or issues with the latest Aardmush on Fiendish's site?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: of course there are its software
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: what does the new Aardmush have that the old one doesn't?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: ooooo
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I mean serious and/or game-breaking issues
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: nawww
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: who loqui, finger members lol lol
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: if they were known it wouldnt have been released
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: but NO SEXUAL HARRASSMENT PANDA pls
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: Fearlis joke
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oo Kyhal fingers very selectively
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oo Kyhal acks!
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: friend ago
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: but if they were unknown bugs :)  I'm guessing if there had been issues somebody would have said something.  Thanks all.
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: derp
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oo Kyhal fingers himself hahaha
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: I found out my terrible mouse clicking issue...I had a macro running that left clicked every 1.7 seconds and forgot about it :D
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: derp a gerp!! a b00t?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: Probably not the best idea to have bound it to activate on a slight mousewheel side nudge
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: what's dis all aboot?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: li
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: lee
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: wham baam thank you maam
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oo Kyhal acks!
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: ok, really red wine time
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: afk
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: fork a cork???
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: corkscrew tech-k-nique
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: 1k order from east coast for VQA? oops
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: importer/exporter
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: where's the tech in all this?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: 2 debate if u wantz
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: anyone know why i get 'Trigger function "POSCode" not found or had a previous error.' error when I kill a mob?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Never heard of it can search the web for POSCode
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: suppose I will have to. was hoping someone already knew :(
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: for mushclient tab completion, is there a way for it to ignore puncuation?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: why sometimes the client dosent save maps?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: and alias
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: backup moar
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: did it
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: finger all of the Silent Ones
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: Seek Truth in Loqui
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: I've said too much already yours to link to
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: Or perhaps not mortals?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: li lee
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: tech off now
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: Trigger function "POSCode" not found or had a previous error. -- any ideas? searching online hasnt resulted in anything. shows up only after a mob is killed. (mushclient)
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: should fix itself if you stop killing mobs :P
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: yeah.. did that for like a year.. have to take a break from it
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: do you have a tracker of any sort (mob kill counter or exp tracker)?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: Sharptracker
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: try reinstalling it
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well, i unistalled it.. but its still functionig..
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: ghosts in the machine... i knew it would happen
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well all the variables are there in ctrl+g, but on the plugin list its gone.
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: if you uninstalled it, have you restarted mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: twice now, it still fire on world opening
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: ok, try installing it and then disableing it.
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: you on windows?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: still recieve the error in red
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: got it
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: what did you do?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: apparently my dumb self at some point just copied and pasted the script into mush creating duplicate triggers/vars causing the issue :P
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: hehe go you!
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: can anyone suggest a good tracker for mush besides sharptracker?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Amaru gave me directions on how to open the file folder as an administrater when it isn't letting me do it normally...does anyone know how to do it
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: erm, anyone know if S&D have issues with Gallows? I've xset mark umpteen times but its still not going the right way
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: using mushclient -is there a way to replace an incoming string with another string? somewhat like a permanent "find a replace"
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: and*
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are you reading the string from the mud output or sending it yourself?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: mud output
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you want to replace the whole line or just a single word in it?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: strictly speaking i want to add something to it.. can eithe rreplace the whole line or simply replace the last word with my addition
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: for example, adding a note alongside a roomname..
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well there might be an easier way but you can use the whole string as a trigger then check the omit from output button, then in the send put something like SendNoEcho("whatever line you would like it to be including your addition") then in the Send to switch it to script
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: let me try. thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if it's a variable string (like a room name) you'll want to use a capture group and probably a regular expression and then just resend the whole thing you captured using %1 and append your addition using string concatentation which is [..] (without the []'s)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but any room name that doesn't match your regular expression will throw you a curveball, so you may need to do some experimenting and tweaking of your regex for it to work
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: nod nod...
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: related qn - is there a way to echo back a line without using mud's echo command? it has a build-in lag
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: i suppose i'm looking for a client-based echo
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: also, if you're doing room names.. as they appear when you look, you're going to need a way to know that it's a room name and not just regular text
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: tricky..
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the mapper does something like that I believe (your 2nd question)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think it's just a "ColourNote"
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's documentation on it if you search mushclient colournote in google
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: nice.. thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not too bad though.. it's pretty straightforward
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: also if you wish to add notes to rooms in mushclient there is a command for that mapper addnote putyourtexthere
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: ok that is very helpful
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: whoa.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i just copied and pasted some code and dunno how to handle those numbers in js.. heres an array.. [0x90, 0, 0x13]
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: whats this. hex or wut
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Yup, that's hex
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: that 0x19 - how to add hm.. number 1 to 16 to that then?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its a midi message
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: You can just add hex with a +, like 0x90 + 0x04 for example
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks much i'll try
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: 1000nnnn is supposed to be that 0x90 .. 
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: gosh it was so simple:) i was gonna accept 3 hours of mind#$%
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: if i have 2 worlds do they share the same plugins and stats folders?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: (in mush)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if they have the same name, yes
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: if the worlds have the same name?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: each world needs to have a name. See ALT-ENTER
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: right, i am trying to simplify 2 chars, in one client.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: its really the state files that i am concerned about.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: if each char has a world file they will still share hte plugins and stat files, at least in pathing
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: correct?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why make a world for each char. Why not use 1 world
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: maps are different, aliases are differnt, portals and gear or different..
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: navigation rewards for goals
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tormat nods at Bishoujo Raded.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: What colours are available in ColourNote?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: how can I set up a display in mushclient (windows) that will show campaign mobs still required (saw it in my mudlet program on linux)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: there are plugins like the one from bast, finger them for the url
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: OK thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you may want to tweak it to work at all quest/campaign givers
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So, anybody know how to subtract 1 from a variable in mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: variable = variable -1
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Really? No Execute or anything?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: seeing as you didn't specify anything, sure
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: we can't read your mind as to how you are using this.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: well.. you could do mommommoo = tonumber(getvariable("mommommoo") - 1 as a script ... kinda :)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: normally the way I would do it is GetVariable convert it to a number, subtract one, then set it again, you may have to re-convert to a String
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I have a variable that I want to help me keep count of my potions. So everytime I quaff one I want it to deduct one from a variable called numberofpotions. I have an alias called qp that gets the potion from the bag, then quaffs it. And at the end I want it to subtract 1 from the amount of available pots I set everytime I buy potions. The alias is targeting Execute as of today as I have another alias that sets the name of the potion.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and send to script.. though it might be easier to write a small function and just call it rather than put a bunch of stuff in a send box
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it depends on where in mush he is using it, what kind of variable he is using, global or local.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: that var=var-1 works. you have to SendTo>script and youre done
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is your alias going to script?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Sorry, the alias is actually targeting "script"
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: then the var = var -1 works
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: unles you are storing the variable with SetVariable somewhere
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: then you will need tovar =tonumber( GetVariable(varname")) -1
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: then set it again
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: WHen I type that last thing it says "unexpected symbol near '-'
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so SetVariable("variable", tonumber(GetVariable("name"-1)))
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: That's what I was trying
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: are you sure its going to script?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can use -1 within getvariable?.. cool
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: umm you need to put the paren around the whole thing then -1 after you do tonumber
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: since -1 isn't defined on a string
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like tonumber(GetVariable("name")) -1
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: my para might be off a little I am on a small laptop and cant see well
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I believe..
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse nods at Yajan.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so SetVariable("variable", tonumber(GetVariable("name")-1))
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: this SetVariable("variable", tonumber(GetVariable("name"))-1)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: finally :)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol, stupid small screens
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: meh syntax
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: same idea
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And Note('You have '..GetVariable("nopotions").." left.")) or something similar to echo back how many I have?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: nopotions is Number of Potions
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so giddorah, post your code on pastebin or something it might just be syntax
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: The variable
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that should work fine
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: No, your code works now. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol, I know it does
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Well, I could post it but I'm not sure anyone would be interested :P
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cool that's good =)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, thanks you two :)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I only know C#
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: np man, I like programming so I like to help people with thiers usually
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I taught myself lua for this mud, lol
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: taught myself c# for space engineers
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I taught myself umm I dunno.. but I like helping too!
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ever learn Ti-basic so you could program those calculators in high school?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've taught myself tons of crappy languages to solve problems.. lua is a nice little scripting language though.. good to learn even if only for writing mud scripts
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hehe... Texas Instruments
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I know c, c#, basic, Ti-basic, bash, torque, java, php, python, all so I could automate things
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Impressive :)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i know turbo basic and turbo pascal
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I wanna learn cobol
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: where to learn lua
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: test port
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: That's the banking language, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lua you can learn here just by doing or goto its doc page
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: cobol is for all the old systems where people are either dying or retiring, lots of jobs for the old languages
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, don't you think they systems will get replaced once the support goes away?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: doing wha
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: what*
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: I used to know Fortran. Haven't touched it in ages now though
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not really
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I mean would you want to spend a few million to convert your system if there are still people willing to use or work on it?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: not really..have you done that?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: True
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: someone says cobol and i get that thing in my brain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4qYiFWrc0g
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: cobol, algol, fortran, pascal, lisp. I'm one of them old geezers
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: fortran is still useful actually...
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: it can be weird to learn all the old school things that still run everything these days. Around me a lot of the schools still use Amiga's to control the heating of schools
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Really?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: yeah. There was a huge news thing about it last year here. I worked at a hospital upgrading the network switches and they still used Amigas and Commodore 64's to run a lot of things. And this wasn't a poor hospital at all
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: A lot of OS/2 systems, and in years past TRS-80 computers running HVAC systems too.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Funny the things that will stick around when nobody has to touch them very often.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: And as to the Fortran discussion... if I could avoid a week without compiling something in Fortran, I'd be very happy :P
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Darn researchers and scientists!
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: it is nice when you don't have to touch the old school systems, but when they break it can be annoying to deal with ebay trying to find parts and replacements hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: eh. you throw names of languages left and right.. if its mundane coding job, it doesn't matter. try writing something that deals with musical notes. its incredibly hard
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: because they screwed up the notation 400 years ago and now we have it this way
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda perks up, something must have grabbed her attention.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not too bad to do things in midi, or to use sibilius or similar
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sibelius*
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm.. Have you tried that Windows 10 app for notes
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Staffpad
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: there are scales,keys. scales have exceptions. sharps flats collide. its all mayhem
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and then there is the rythm rules
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: the staff notes is a map. so whatever goes on, there be converting from the map and back.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while keys have exceptions, everything follows the same rules consistently
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you can have a scale that has all flats and that sole sharp as an exception. and all automation goes puff
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not at all
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes!
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why you can press a "transpose" button and it'll "just work" as you play in the key you're familiar with, outputting in a different key
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you try
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've done it for 25 years
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i gave up
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc still has a DX27S
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: wait. im talking about presenting notes with correct alterations
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: thats insanely complicated
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm talking about actually making music...don't care about presentation, just how it plays :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yeah. i do that now:)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i gave up as i said
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: now there is b and bb next to eachother and who cares if it sounds right:P
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: how can I make an echo for double pop message?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: echo?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: trigger for double message -> Note("DOUBLE") send to script
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: if I find the next mersian prime how do I get paid/glory?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I use bast's help mini window, and now it gives me errors, how do I reset it?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: maybe i know what is the command to reset my MUSHclient interface?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: may i*
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: reset aard
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: it says You are not holding a reset area token.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ah ok, thanks!!
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: how can i save my output buffer?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends on what client. MUSH, you can do Ctrl+Shift+J, and pick your options.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Chat log is automatically logged with Aard MUSHclient's package.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok cool, yea i wanted output buffer only on mush
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: Been a while but does anybody which/whose plugin is the one that looks somethng like: StatMonitor: Quest finished for
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Phillip Tech: is that bast's?
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: oh yeah, that's whose it was. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TomNine Tech: for a working copy of winkle winkles search and destroy triple pack visit these 3 links, save the raw paste in a text editor/notepad with the .xml extension and with the file names of the posts into aardwolf --> world --> plugins --> winkle winkle (create a new folder within the plugins folder called winkle winkle), be sure to let the mapper extender index the areas before continuing to add the GUI...
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TomNine Tech: http://pastebin.com/QYmR3Xeg http://pastebin.com/A4BydEdp http://pastebin.com/LPC1p4Xz
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TomNine Tech: happy campaigning
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: bah semi bot
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TomNine Tech: not funny...
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jainnah Tech: this is funny.. https://gfycat.com/HollowWelllitCarpenterant
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm I guess commas do matter
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ran windows network diagnostics (because internet bad) and I read the results as: The connection between your access point, router, or cable modem, and the Internet is broken.
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and I'm like "what?! Who broke the Internet?!"
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: last comma I just imagined
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: omggggg finally built like a "simple" set of functions to tell me if an Aarch piece that pops up is one I already have turned in
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure if I'm tired or retarded.. but that was way harder than expected
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is much easier just put them in order into your bag
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure I follow what you mean
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all pamhplets have number of piece in keyword list: archaeology aarchaeology collectable pamphlet20
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yaya if you identify it
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm talking about ones on market, on auc, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all pieces also do have them: | Keywords   : gold coins archaeology aarchaeology find old rope item41  
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like if it's one I should buy
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I don't have to identify each and every one
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i seem to recall someone writing a plugin for that
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haha I'm sure they did.. seems like something that would be helpful
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: - reinventing the wheel since .. uh.. whenever I popped out
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I had thought about using the identify on each one as the lookup, but being lazy.. I wanted to be able to look it up by name
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: only problem left is when the name is truncated (like on market) some of them (or at least 2) have the same name
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not the end of the world but.. still a bug
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syth Tech: Quick question can on play aardwolf on IOS ?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syth Tech: one*
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: i use blowtorch on android,if you are lucky theres probably some MUD client up for IOS too
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: im fairly certain ive seen one on ipads
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syth Tech: Ahh Thanks man :)
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Can you set Mush to not clear the command line?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: maybe if you have a high-sequence alias for * that sends to command
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: havent tried it
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: or would it be low sequence... hmmm
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: probably wouldnt work the way you want depending on what other aliases you have 
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: there's an option for it in commands
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: well imagine that :p
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: auto repeat command
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know how to call a script (and send a parameter) from an alias without capturing the parameter via a regex?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: like a predefined parameter?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arguments are * for non-regex and () for regex
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, it's not an argument I want to send in though
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what a parameter is...
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right, but I don't want to have to define it when I call the alias
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I want the alias to know what to send
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like wondering if I can directly modify the wildcards array
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the alias part actually has nothing to do with your question
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sure.. it could be a trigger or whatever
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: alias is sending a bunch of stuff to world
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just want to know how to call a function
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I want to call a script and send parameters to it through wildcards
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you put it into the () of the function call
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not through wildcards
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: does that work in that field?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: never really tried that kk
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is the "script" a function? or an alias in another plugin? or...
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the script is a function
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if its a function you just do FunctionName(arguments) like magna said
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: didn't know that script textbox would take params that easily
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use script textbox
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the function has the standard signature though (name, line, wildcards)
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the huge box
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and send to script
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: think thats what he means magna
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well that's easy to do but the problem is I'm sending a bunch of text to world
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I doubt it
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'd have to add like a Send() to each line
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sending text to world doesn't matter...just have Send() to send to world
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: was trying to avoid that
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you truly don't want to avoid that
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: since I have like 8 aliases I'd have to do this for :(
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: these are aliases for wearing different level sets
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wanted to tack on a function call at the end
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rethink how you're trying to do it...you should only have one
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just use bast's eqsets
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah.. it is probably high time I re-wrote the set aliases to combine them into one
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i havent tried bast, but masaki equalizer is really decent
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I dunno trying to avoid using a database and sort of hard to track settings/values that are changing often - kept having issues with bast's so I "simplified" by just writing a bunch of aliases that send stuff to world
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but now I'm a bit locked in as to what I can do with them
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need a database, that's what tables are for
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry same diff in my mind, was referring to both
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: one is persistent I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, both are persistent
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how would a table persist? :/
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a MUSH variable
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ohh I was talking about lua tables
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so am I
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you save the lua table to a MUSHclient/plugin variable
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so lua variable and a mush variable are two different contexts, no?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I do that.. but if you want to use in lua, you still have to load into the script context
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then you use it natively in lua...unlike a database call
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to use a database, you need to create a .db file, open that file, create a database table, schema for that table, etc., close the file, re-open it on reuse...vs just using lua tables the way you always do, where on plugin load you "unserialize" the variable into a table, and on plugin save, you "serialize" the table into a variable
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I do that for other things, just haven't really incorporated it into eq sets yet
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: kind of dragging my fight since this current impl is hobbling along
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my feet*.. I guess I am kicking and screaming with myself too though
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cool thanks for the advice
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I know there's colorset, but isn't there another color config list?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can toggle brights, not quite sure what you're looking for
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I coulda sworn there was a way to change color of things like your attacks, mob attacks, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: colorset?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Ohhh, I just saw those options. Okay, thanks.l
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: lost the screen that shows my stats --- the screen on the side
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: resetaard might help
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: tried that one and it still not there weird guess i reboot is in order
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: did you disable any plugins?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: not on purpose
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: is it possible it's under another window?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: and not hidden under anotehr window I checked that one
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: check for aardwolf_statmon in your plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: ok i know i should kow more but where is hta
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: file->plugins sort by name
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: t
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: between tick timer and prompt fixer
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if its not there the filename is aard_statmon_gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: found it by going full screen how do i get out of full screen cause I can't see the very top stuff
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-alt-f
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: thank magna
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: not good when you in a double and agro area LOL
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: how do i reset the window placement to default on mush
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: reset aard
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: and s&d
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: its stuck right on top cant see mobs
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i think xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: amazing 
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any way to get around the mud's greedy matching on item names?
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like target an incomp scroll that is 1x (and not target one that is 2x) for example?
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: what does it say under keywords if you do >id scroll? You should be able to combine the keywords into a unique string surrounding quotes. id 'scroll other_keyword'
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'll have to make some to check.. but I believe the 2x just has the keyword repeated
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so it's essentially a 1x with an extra repetition of the same keyword :(
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wondering if there's like a combination where I could add like a negative operator.. like a "not in" or ^ in regex
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like "select this, but not this"
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: Yeah that would be nice. I guess this channel is not too active at the moment. I would probably ask again later, maybe someone else knows
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: thanks for brainstorming it with me anyway
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: anyone using Sierra and Wine? Just wanted to make sure it works before I uprade 
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: Heh, when I sudo it helps that I am not trying to suto  ...
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Any suggestions on cli mud clients more flexible than tintin?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: can i disable hide and invis in spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yeah.. noauto skill_number
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: thanx
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: okay so I want to create a plugin that donates 10 percent of the gold from each kill when I run the command, how would I do this?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: not an experienced programmer keep in mind
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Donate gold to whom?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: my clan
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lug Tech: Create a trigger with a pattern that matches the text you get when you receive gold from a kill.  The amount of gold is a variable of the pattern.  You multiply that variable by .10 and donate the resulting amount.  
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lug Tech: or I should say "the trigger multiplies the variable by .10 and donates the resulting amount."
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lug Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lug Tech: If you want to donate only when you give a command, then just add amount of gold times .1 to a variable.  Then create an alias like "tithe" or whatever that donates the amount stored in that variable and then clears out the variable. 
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is the where info sent over GMCP anywhere?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Like from where command? No.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, I wasn't sure if I was just missing something or not
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm strange issue
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have a plugin that will not throw an error but will stop working.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: as in, it has a timer and a few triggers that should fire when the triggerable event happens, or the timer runs out of time. but under certain circumstances both just seem to stop working. Is there a deeper level of error checking that can be done to figure out why this is?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your trigger isn't firing properly.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nothing strange about it.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: and the timer?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The timer is supposed to reset each time it fires?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, then no idea.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok why does my router seem to "lose" usb devices?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: bad drivers?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: what do you mean by 'usb devices'?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i mean "devices connected via usb"
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I assumed usb wireless network dongles
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: didnt know they made usb viborators
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: router connected to devices via usb, and they get 'lost'?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the devices in question are a sd card and a usb hard drive
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so they are shared?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: shared?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: theyre connected physically to the router
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i think theyre getting disconnected and reconnected as new /dev devices
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ah so not the scenario I was thinking
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but i dont know why
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: like i have sda sda1 sdb sdb1 sdb2
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: then they suddenly become sdc and sdd
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: its all hooked to a tandy 100 right kobus
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: 1000
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wth is a tandy :p
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Radio Shack brand of computers!
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: maybe back in the early 90's
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk what the usb hub is on the router
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i know it uses a usb device for the sd card
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the hd is connected via external usb port
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its an asus rt-n66u running tomatousb (shibby)
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: i dont know
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: me neither, guess ill just have to reboot it every time it forgets about my drives :(
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: in regex, the terms lazy and non-greedy, do they mean the same?  
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: uhhhh
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: no.. cos om both of those things
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: actually im greedy too so i guess .. mabye
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: not that i knw of
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: whats your exp, and what are you trying to match?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: nothing to match, just reading about them.  found non-greedy as a term, then when googled, lazy came out instead.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: im greedy for my friendships, and for chatting and for playing without dying 5times in a row.. and im also happy to be on here
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: i dontthink non greedy and lazy are the same thing.. but thats my own not so hunble opinion
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: but are you answering from a regex perspective or life philosphy, minka? because no one cares about the latter =p
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: i dont know what a regex is but i care about how i feel aboutthings and liek to express my opinion. you may ignore it at will
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: thanks for staying on topic
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: doing my best
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: i will look up regex when im through dying here
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol I'm pretty sure there's no context in which the words "thanks for staying on topic" are used in a non-sarcastic way.. I don't even have to scroll up to see =)
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: regex regular expression... im slow somteimes but i appreciate the sarcasm even when i miss it sometimes
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: i think what i said before the sarchasm fit right into regular expressions
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: going off here so y'all can be whatever you want on here
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so i did some digging, and id say yea they are somewhat the same thing..
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: so in regex, greedy expressions will match the longest possible string and lazy will only match the shortest.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have no idea why theyre considered lazy or greedy
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i mean, i do but i dont know why those terms are used
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea, what dash said. so in the context of regex yes lazy = non-greedy
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I'm guessing that would mean greedy - will keep going until something stops matching, lazy - will return the first completed match and stop searching
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i would argue that matching exatch strings is non greedy but also not lazy though
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i get that dash
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: i
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: anyone have auto skin plugin? preferrably getting rid of junk ones by itself?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: pretty sure that's botting
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just fyi
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: don't think so really
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if only that mattered?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus should know this
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: although not technically enchanting, it feels like this could be covered by help enchantbot
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's just like doing it on enchanting (throwing away ones that don't meet a certain criteria automatically).. that's an example in the helpfile
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so theres nothing specific to skinning in the botting/stacked commands.enchantbot policies
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kramercosmo Tech: can you link me to latest version of S & D?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, but you can finger Nokfah for it.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i was just gonna say the same thing yajan, stacked commands and enchantbots are perfectly ok as long as they only operate on ONE item
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but you should read help enchantbot for clarification on this
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but he wants a trigger..
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that does it for him as a plugin..
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It doesn't fall under botting rules.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Enchantbots are those specifically designed to allow you to be AFK.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I can set up a trigger to enchant something and then throw it away and enchant another based on some arbitrary trigger line like say uh.. something I do to the last one?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i dont know the details of skinning
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Automatically skinning a corpse and checking its stats, then junking it if it doesn't meet requirements is not botting.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: because enchantbot specifically says that's illegal.. so how is that different from him trigging off a kill msg?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i would agree with that arci
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: because I am actually here fighting and killing
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It would be botting if the player were idling in an aggro room or having a bot run to mobs and kill them, but if that's the case, you've got bigger problems.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: not doing my 8 hours sleeping..
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Almila would have forced interaction between skins.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: like i said, idk how skinning works... i dont see why an auto-skin/drop,sac would be illegal
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Enchantbots require no interaction.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: from enchant bot: * You may stack (spam) multiple enchants on a list of items with no decision making or trigger, just spamming a bunch of enchants like spamming a single room of mobs. 20 items is the maximum. 
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: in any case, let's return to the main subject?  any plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: why in the world would they bother saying "and no decision making or trigger"?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're not enchanting skins.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and that changes things how?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because you can't do 100 skins in 5 minutes?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if I add a trigger to my alias to enchant 20 items then it becomes illegal if I'm reading this right
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so how would they change if I were skinning?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: because you can't skin while afk
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no it can cast enchants on 20 items
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I just run around and the plugin does all the skinning and decision making
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it cant check stats, throw away, disenchant etc
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: we're not talking about afk
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: on one item
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: err 20 items
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I definitely agree with that.. but it also doesn't say it's ok to do it on one item
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: let alone the 50 you do while you walk around killing everything
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and do you think I collect 50 corpses and then sit somewhere quiet to afk skin them?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: (none of which you enter a single command for yourself)
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Almila laughs at Yajan mercilessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: stacking enchants on 1.thing to 20.thing isnt illegal, its when your script checks the stats on 1.thing to 20.thing and disenchants or sells them that it becomes illegal
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There is a script out there that exists that was okayed by the Imms (last I heard from the creator, and the creator is reliable) that automatically checks an enchanted item for proper stats and will sell back if it doesn't meet your requirements. It's not illegal because you do have to enchant everything by hand.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There are autoskin scripts out there already; in fact, it should actually be a feature. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: k, but what if you didn't enchant by hand.. like say via a trigger when you kill a mob?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's legal?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for argument's sake what if I did enchantments every time I killed a mob? it'd be legal then?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if you want.. sure
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: triggering off the kill?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What botting boils down to is this: Can you respond to tells if you were suddenly sent a tell by an Imm? If the answer is no, then you're botting. If the answer is yes, then that means you have some interaction between that requires a pause, and are not sitting there afk and botting.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm not talking to you?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so in the last portion of the first bright white it says "These *MUST* be done one at a time"
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: who are you talking to then?  you do not understand botting and want to declare everyone a botter apparently
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so i can make an autoenchant trigger and just sit and watch it enchant 200 things?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you failing to read the part above it that says you can use triggers to enchant a single item?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so long as i'm at the keyboard it's not botting?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i really dont see where kill trigger: skin, check stats, drop, sac is a bot
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gorsk: Go learn about thin mints, will ya?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yes, Gorsk. if you're not afk it's not botting
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yajan, you're wrong about that. :D
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm being sarcastic
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no gorsk, it says in enchantbot the limit is 20 items with no stat checks or thought processes
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: let me read what you're referring to though Arcidayne..
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: the simple rule is: if you were to leave your keyboard, will your client keep doing things for you?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's not the only def of botting
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You may use stacked commands and triggers to fully enchant a *SINGLE* item, including identifying to decide whether or not to keep it, sort into bags based on stats and even sell back to store if in the same room.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: meh, yeah.. you could probably argue from that point I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'd hate to be wrong that haha
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if an imm has a problem with it, i think one might speak up soon...
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: we are not arguing.. you are.. the point is: is there an autoskin plugin available?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: Almila: i don't know, sorry :(
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If there is, I don't know where one exists, Almila. Wouldn't be hard to create the triggers anyway.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: thanks.. a simple answer.. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im sure someone has one, somewhere
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my bad, trying to keep you from getting nuked.. next time I'll just say what you want to hear
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't fault Yajan for arguing, though. It's always better to be safe than sorry, but Imms won't nuke you on your first offense. Jail you and talk to you, sure, maybe even freeze you if it's serious enough. But you'd have to be a total jackass for them to say, "Screw it, you're gone."
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've heard some bad stories about people being made examples of :(
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I am like the most triggerless person in the mud really.. why would they nuke me?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: there is an imm or two watching right now, if they thought it was botting theyd likely clarify for us
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Those who have been made examples of handled things in a poor way.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's a difference between "I'm sorry, I didn't understand the rule, but I'll correct my behavior." and "Screw you, stupid bitch. The rule wasn't clear so I wasn't wrong. Go f yourself!"
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am just curious...why do people want to 
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Bot anyway, if you don't want to play...then why play
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The same reason people want cheats for video games. They want to be the best in the fastest way.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Put God Mode on in Wolfenstein 3D, blaze through the dungeons and kill the final boss.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: OMG...I playedd the first Wolfenstien...that what got me into gaming...sorry off topic
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: does buying lottery tickets count as botting? 
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Almila chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is tech a curse channel...?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But yeah, the way you handle things has a huge impact on what happens to you. There have been people who were jailed, and instead of being mature about it, they threw a fit, posted notes on boards saying the Imms suck, etc, and even made threatening remarks. :p
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gorsk: There's been no cursing. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no gorsk, it isnt
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: Arcidayne Tech: There's a difference between "I'm sorry, I didn't understand the rule, but I'll correct my behavior." and "Screw you, stupid bitch. The rule wasn't clear so I wasn't wrong. Go f yourself!"
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Almila: If you were to do it automatically after each draw, then yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: we need more of those
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have no idea why im answering someone whos ignoring me
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gorsk: Words that can be said on prime time TV are acceptable. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Really?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so i can say bitch on gossip...?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: hah.. I was just saying about lottery tickets:  you just sit at your home doing nothing and expect to get rich: that's botting!!
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But don't get carried away with it, either.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have been called out for that
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne tells Gorsk to "Kwitcherbitchin"!
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's proof right there that "bitch" is okay -- kwitcherbitchin is not curse-only. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ok, good to know
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Amya: If you're not calling someone a bitch or using it in a way that's inappropriate with the conversation, then you'll be okay. But turn it into a personal attack or clearing meaning malice behind it, the Imms can step in and tell you to cool it.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: clearing = clearly*
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: That makes sense and is fair
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I can't honestly say that I wasn't calling someone that
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have been known to do that when people are rude
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a person who writes scripts, I've learned to read the rules and learn the rules so I don't do something illegal. As a side lesson, I learn more about other rules, too. ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan dances wildly before you!
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades looks at Yajan and pants lustily.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: is it possible dat the mapper deletes something "randomly" like some notes or some cexit
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Possible sure, but never seen it.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if you didn't save and computer shut down etc..
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: then you lose your last changes
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: yeah it happened but what was deleted is stg i wrote a long time ago
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I don't know how it worked before, but under old system with dataabase that shoudln't be the case...
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: its wierd
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you recently upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i use the 4.95 mush
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i get mapper errors on the 6.x
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: On the 6.x?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: the version when you type checkversion is much more useful
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: but anyways did you recently upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: 2 weeks ago i tried
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: n my map gave me a lot of errors
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: for the paths
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your map didn't give you errors, I'm sure. More likely, it was S&D.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Entirely possible when you tried to upgrade that database was changed or rearranged.  Did you backup the entire folder before upgrading?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: sure i did! :)
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: backup is my second name
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What errors did you get?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: can always go back to that, in the mean time post to fiendish here or on github what happenend.  But will warn you sayiing bunch of errors is not terribly useful, copying and pasting entire error messages is probably most useful.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also mention what operating system you used, and where you have your files located.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: true story
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i cant emember the error tho
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you installed it to Program Files, that can also cause problems.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: actually...
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i WINE it on my OSX xD
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: wich never game me probs, but for the sounds
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Try installing again and noting any errors you get.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i will
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: but keep your backup safe :)
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: backtobacktobacktobackup! u never knw!
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: why would s&d gives me an error when using xrunto ?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: and it was working fine up til now?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: just installed it today. not working
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: bad xset mark location
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: for every area?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: have you set any?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: no.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urzin Tech: I think Nokfah's script stores xset locations in a file?  If so, maybe the file isn't there?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urzin Tech: not sure on that one
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: will have a look. thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: you might also need  some cexits set up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone know how the gmcp mapper from fiendhish appears to know more than the gmcp gives it?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: case in point:
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Standing in a room that has -1 as all exits, but two west it shows on the map that there is a real exit, but that is not sent by gmcp
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it learned when you moved that way first time around
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it does this, and moves them, in maze areas
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no way for it to have learned that
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nvm I figured out how it knows
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I get geep getting a runtime error when trying to use basts help miniwindown
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: how do I reset it?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: woah
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thatll be enough of that
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: silence beast! 
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: so I'm searching on both the reddit app and web browser, I use the exact same keyword (both within the same subreddit), but they give me entirely different results. what's up with that? 
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can't guarantee the reddit app isn't mangling your search string
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SmllThunder Tech: COMMUNICATION LOG ERROR: Failed to access your logging file because of the following reason:
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: logfile was in use and comm plugin couldnt access it
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so im looking at help prompt, and i need a better prompt i think... i use mushclient so i dont really use the prompts much but theres some useful stuff in there. my current prompt only shows me my time to quest, tells and double remaining
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: abelinc are you on one of your characters right now?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Negader points at you.  How rude! 
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I haz questions for you, I like your answers the besties
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone happen to know the message for when a chaos portal fails during a GQ?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Anyone know if you can repeat a command in mush a certain amount of times? Like "#5 kick"?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: using mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So I can type a command and mush will do it a certain amount of times instead of having to press enter a certain amount of times
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: you can make an alias. k * then have the send be kick %1 as many times as you want to. its how i do my pthief setup. k *, then send backstab %1;balor %1;necro %1;spiral %1
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: can be aliased to whatever key(s) you like of course
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: there is also a plugin by Nick Gammon - Repeat_Command
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: or just alias kick * to send kick 5 times. as long as you are in combat it will auto target whatever you are in combat with
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, thanks  :)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Where is the 'wrongdir' field for in the gmcp.room?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no such field
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: There is though
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sure, sure, tell my why you think that
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Because I see it right here :p
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: right where?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: in gmcp.room
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, then you found it. Case closed
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Why so condescending? :( I'm asking because I don't know what it is for, and it might be useful
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am looking at both the gmcp output and the gmcp page for aardwolf and it doesn't exist.. not sure what your seeing and you don't care to elaborate
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: I can paste what I see if that would help
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it would
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: { info = { num = 32418, name = "The Grand City of Aylor", zone = "aylor", terrain = "aylorcity", details = "safe", exits = { s = 32419, u = 35200, e = 32698, d = 32615, w = 30518, n = 32539 }, coord = { id = 0, x = 30, cont = 0, y = 20 } }, wrongdir = "w"}
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: where are you getting that from?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: gmcpdebug 2 shows nothing like that, nor does the http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: That's what I get for recall in mudlet
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Maybe the wiki is not up to date?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: possibly, but that would not account for what I am getting from my gmcp dump
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not sure where your getting that last variable
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mudlet is adding something itself
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Also, does gmcp.room not change in clan halls?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Clan halls may well be nomap, in which case you don't get the GMCP info.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Ah, that would be it, then
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But that's mostly applied to the private parts of clanhalls, I think most open onees are mappable.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and should update...
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Do they update for you? (Just making sure it's not mudlet)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes they do.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: For instance west of recall in bard clan hall I see the updates.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Ah that's where I checked too, it stays on recall info for me everywhere in bard
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: That seems to be an error on mudlet's end then
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I don't like to discourage people from their clients...it's like a religious choice for someone, but I do like to point out that "clients" command shows two of you.  Which means it might be hard to find help :)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it was only one when he asked the question
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: What do you mean two of you?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: type client
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: only two people are using mudlet currently
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: there's actually 6 or 7, mudlet keep changing their TTYPE with every release so there's a few in "unknown"
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: apparently there is a mudlet-3.0.0-delta and mudlet-3.0.0.iota etc
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Ah, I see, I just picked the first mud client that works well on both windows and ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Mush works well on both as long as you have wine for Ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: go for aardmush! it works on both
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ahh - I know many use Mushclient/wine combo.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am actually on the wine/Mushclient combo right now
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: what is the "dumb" client?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I like tintin for command line.  And when I say like, I MUCH MUCH Prefer Aardmush, but tolerate tintin
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Finger ixle for a tintin specifically for this MUD.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: those two will correctly show under 'mudlet' after next reboot.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: How is tintin for scripting/extending functionality?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: See - that's some attention to detail!
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ascun - you can do it.  It's finicky is my main problem with it.  And the error messages are not terribly useful.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Like my favorite error message, missing bracket between lines 1 and 205.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Heh heh that's bad 
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And turns out the issue was a comment that had a bracket :)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But as long as you are anal about your brackets and semi colons it's not bad.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: So it's not using lua or any existing language? :p
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carmine Tech: Hello, anyone here a use of the Aardwolf Mudlet GUI?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: check clients
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carmine Tech: cool, that gives me a number but doesn't answer my question
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes. you use it
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carmine Tech: if you cant help why respond
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: patience.........
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: he's got a point
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: because you could ask the question in your mind instead of trying to ask if anyone uses things related to your question
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carmine Tech: it's a gated question, people could be using mudlet but not the GUI, and if they aren't then I'm out of luck
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: in tech channel if you ask a question, you could get answer hours later
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carmine Tech: in tech channel we learn to ignore Nuanse
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: still, people that dont use that might have been able to answer your question too if you had asked it
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and Nuanse is right. In tech sometimes it can take hours before you get an answer because people not logged on now will read channel history when they log on
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: hello sometimes i've been disconnected
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: disconnected how?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: don't know it come sometimes like nothing
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: GMCP Mapper: Disconnected
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: because usually the problem is in your end. aard has been up for months and for me only reason I get disconnected is because of my own wlan reboots or service provider has problems.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: GMCP Mapper: Disconnected
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: ok thx so it's nothing ?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: aardmush?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it specifically the GMCP mapper, or do you get disconnected from the game itself?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: i think i've found why ... i copy/paste
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: Output buffer has 9996/9999 lines in it (100,0% full).
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: As fiendish answered this at somepoint of his life in internet -> 1) Your database file is corrupted ( see https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCP-driven-world-mapper#database-corruption ) -- 2) You've broken part of the plugin by editing or replacing a file.-- 3) You're using a very old version with a bug in it.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you tried to copy/paste the entire scrollback? the output buffer's OK to be full, it just empties as new lines come in
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper cant access the database is the problem I think
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and looking back at channel history from 2 hours ago, I have never used zmud or MUSHclient, yet I (1) have answered a TON of questions on both clients (as well as questions about tintin++ and mudlet), so trying to prune people out by asking if they use MAG is a bad idea, and (2) very often look back at channel history and try to answer questions that I see from hours previously
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: testing...
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: for a working copy of winkle winkle's search and destroy triple pack go to these 3 links and cop/paste the raw paste into notepad or a text editor and save them as the names of the pastes AND with .xml at the end (file extension) into MUSHclient --> Worlds --> Plugins --> Right Click --> Create new folder --> call it Winkle Winkle and put the 3 .xml files there : http://pastebin.com/QYmR3Xeg http://pastebin.com/A4BydEdp http://pastebin.com/LPC1p4Xz Happy Campaigning.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: affirmative.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or just 'finger nokfah'
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lydinair Tech: Is there a reason, once I installed the mudlet that it has made it so I can't use a lot of capital letters? Like shift+s and shift+d ?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: When requesting a manor, you need to provide a vnum.  Is that the same thing as the room ID in the mushclient mapper?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no they are different
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, is there a way to get the vnum without bothering the imms?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: record the speedwalk to get to the room starting from the area entrance.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: (See also: help new manor)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: help mu-purchase
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, this is embarassing.  I'm having trouble writing a note using mushclient.  I have a 240-line text document formatted with no line longer than 79 chars.  I just want to cut/paste it into a note.  If I cut/paste the entire document, the mud immediately disconnects me (I'm guessing that I'm overflowing a buffer somewhere.)  If I cut/paste smaller chunks, I don't get disconnected, but newlines aren't always recognized in the note and it makes the note difficult to read.  Do you have any suggestions that don't involve me cutting/pasting each of the lines one at a time?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you want to put a space on blank lines
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: this could help: http://www.aardwolf.com/note.php
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks, I'll try both of those suggestions :)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nibir Tech: anyone know how to fix sharptracker to take OPK exp?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its 2017. why they haven't made the mouse to TURN yet?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know Abelinc's site for log files?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Magna? ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lo
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: finger him?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nice. is that the site then?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yep, looks like it is.. haha thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a way to tell the mushclient mapper to avoid a particular path?  Sometimes it runs me into a wall trying to get to the other side and I'd like it to find another path to the target location. 
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can levellock the rooms in that path.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Most popular place is Masquerade Island and the angry drunks.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, sneaky.  That makes sense.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right-click the rooms you want to avoid and choose Change Exit lock, and set it to a higher level.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is there any way to send a command to "wait" in a speedwalk?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: some areas like Keep of the Kobaloi have like a 1 sec delay to be transferred to the next room
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: yes, mapper cexit_wait 3  will delay the next cexit you create by 3 seconds
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: just switch 3 with whatever time you like
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well it's not really the creation (I've already created it)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's that I need it to wait when it's executing
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: delete it and remake it, so it will wait the needed time
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: h 12
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not quite...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if there's a cexit where it needs to pause before continuing, that's a different command than the one for when it needs to wait longer to see the end room
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "mapper cexit_wait 3" command just means "wait this long before seeing which room you're in"...you'd use wait(3) to tell it to wait 3 seconds after a given cexit move
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: thanks team
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Zhalut suggested adding the wait(x) via tells also
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: +1s all around
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, cool, I just came in at the tail and saw the other advice and hadn't gotten around the -h yet :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: =)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I looked up some market logs earlier.. so you might see your name pop up in tech -h Magna
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "mapper cexit_wait" command is great for things like land of legends or knossos, where the number of steps that you're going to put into the command will take longer than its normal delay, but where you don't need an artificial delay when executing the cexit
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, it does the tricky for like 95% of cexits
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Kobaloi was one I've had issues with though
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm sure there's a couple others out there
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, there's a few where you need the wait in the execution, because when it would try to stack the next commands, the mobprog hasn't finished moving you yet
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umari comes to mind
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh yeah, Umari is kind of weird.. it's like sometimes it works and other times it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course, you could've just fingered my main abelinc for the site as well ;-)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's what I ended up doing :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works consistently as long as there are guards and the guards aren't in combat
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: which area requires you to buy the deathmask? that is a good place for this too
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: annwn
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh yeah.. I didn't even think of creating one for Annwn.. just always do manually
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but once you complete the goal you no longer need the mask
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ooooh
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what I do for pasting notes, is that I put @w onto lines that I want to skip :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I thought you never skip anything
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Magna, could you say more about that?  Having trouble conceptualizing it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I skipped your sister last night!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: OooH! Skippy!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I post notes, I compose them in a text editor, then I paste them into my client in the note editor...durel had asked about an issue he was having doing that with MUSHclient, where it wouldn't keep the blank lines
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so when I want to have a blank line to separate paragraphs, I just have @w on the line...clients won't consider that to be blank, so they won't "compress" it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it'll be essentially a no-op to the note editor, as the text is already white
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there a way to temporarily comment out code in Mush-aliases?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: use --
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: works only in script. 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sendto script
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So... For example my go to amulet alias currently has "rem dual".
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But it speaks to world
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you could make it send to script by adding Execute ("rem dual") 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Aight :) And while commented it should be "Execute (--"rem dual") "?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no. --Execute ("rem dual")
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh right, add everything else in the alias to Execute and change so the alias speaks to script and not world?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that's one way to do it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Thank you. :) Works perfectly!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: anyone here 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: how do i connect to a public wifi that neede log in 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: my laptop dosent want to open log in page 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: any suggestions 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you need to log in
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: i cant it supposed to open it on browser but it dosent 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you tried to go to any page with webbrowser?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: tried google
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: are you sure you are in right wlan?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: wlan?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: wifi
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: yep worked on my iphone 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Windows computer?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: yep intel 5
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you tried other browser?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: disconnect and reconnect, sometimes on mine that will prompt a browser to open
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: it opens the browser but not log in page 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: What happens if you ctrl+R on the browser?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: do you have adblockers or something like that which could prevent it from loading?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And have you tried another browser?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: nice probably add blocker 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: was using chrome trying internet explorer 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Try Edge if you don't have an adblocker activated in that
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: got it working on unternet explorer
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse gives a thumbs-up to Farringar.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: trying to apply the fix to sharptracker, and i get this this error when i try to import the xml. Line   45: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: so the aardwolf ascii map does not follow me around when I walk form room to room
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: now does one reset it?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type map
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also check automap and maprun
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: try closing mush and re-opening?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: okay maprun was off
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks genius channel
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: cept annuanse
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If I'm trying to edit my /etc/network/interfaces to load my iptables rules using these directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo But it says to find the line for your interface in that file, I don't see "eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Though that's what I see when I type: iwconfig
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Should I just add to /etc/network/interfaces?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah adding eth0 not a good idea
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry no idea about iptables
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ended up making it so I could only connect from outside network wasn't an iptables error though, was something I added to network interfaces file....
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: alright... coming in late... you want to apply the rules at that website onboot, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: what is your interface name (type ifconfig -- its the one that isnt lo0)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's eth0 but that isnt listed in network interfaces file.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: so don't know where to put rule loading...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: what /is/ in your interfaces file?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: and you are using ubuntu, correct?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: auto lo
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and then iface lo inet loopback
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that is it.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: wtf? do you have to ifup eth0 whenever your linux box boots?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it just works :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: alright.... cd to /etc/network/interfaces.d/  any files in there?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No interfaces.d
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But do see another page saying I should put a file in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Which does exist
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: cat /etc/issue for me
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: just need the first line
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Will try directions at bottom of here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/270693/how-can-set-these-iptables-rules-to-run-at-startup
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Putting this in rc.local worked: /usr/bin/sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Now I need to figure out why source IP range 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.255 isn't working!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: 192.168.1.0/24
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: sorry my answers are getting brief... beers will do that to you
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: beers almost make me say too much :(
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: it makes me say too much... but not type
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like "hey girl, I like your shoe laces.. I had a pair of shoe laces I liked once.. my grandma bought them for me.. before she died"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: never seems to help my chances :/
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I'm pretty sure mentioning dead grandmas nver works :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, that's probably why I'm single now that I think about it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Klotho smirks.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: not true...if it was recent it can help
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: highfive piff
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan enthusiastically high-fives Piffaron!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan waves goodbye from the deck as the U.S.S. Failboat sails away.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I guess that depends on if you're looking for a booty call :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: And what caliber of woman you're looking for
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: like, sorry, I'm feeling down...my grandma just passed...She was such a big part of my life...are you close to your grandparents?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: always end with a question:)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: "How often has that line worked for ya?"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: never tried it, lol
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: but also rarely been single, haha
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That was an easy fix had to change eth1 to eth0 in this line: -A INPUT -i eth0 -m iprange --src-range 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.255 -j ACCEPT
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: my gf is 8 years younger and 105 pounds :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: do you ever bench press her?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah... Usually they love being used as equipment
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I've never understood this need to brag about your girlfriend online.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've heard that too
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: of f off klotho, it was in response to his question
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: My girlfriend is also 105 pounds.  But don't tell my wife please!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan drools all over himself -- making a TERRIBLE mess!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Klotho smirks at [Outlaw] Mendaloth's saying.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: how would i get the variables(with data) from another plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: GetVariable("pluginid", "variablename")
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: mush
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: and if its a table do you call it the same way?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Tables are just variables
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: no i mean like var.something
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: If yo'ure planning on using that variable a lot
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I would set it to a local variable
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hrmmm, i cant seem to get it, always outputs nil
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: another option is to call a function and have the function return the var - that is usually what I do...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: note they can only be strings in that case.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: (which could be the case with GetVar too....
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: )
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Hrmm
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: In that case, you can use the given serialize functino
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure can!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that would be using the callplugin feature right?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Oh, I just realized....try GetPluginVariable() instead of GetVariable()
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: saw that on the mush website lol
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Klotho apologizes to Useful Hadar with a very sincere look on her face.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Been awhile since I used mush, lol.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, much of the point of plugins is to "silo" things...every plugin can have a variable named "MyVar", and none of them will clobber the other...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know, i want one plugin to pull the var from my other plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, I know...I'm explaining why what you tried to do absolutely should never work
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you'd need the GetPluginVariable(), to separate "this plugin's MyVar" from "that plugin's MyVar"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know that, its still returning nil when i try to set it up to a local MyVar
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Are you sure you're getting the right pluginID?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just try to get it first, not set it anywhere else
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and are you sure that it's a MUSHclient variable and not a Lua variable?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if i get it without setting it it just prints out
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: And it prints the right variable out?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it print out?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if so, then you're getting it properly...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then we move onto how you're setting it...are you setting a Lua variable like MyLocalVar = GetPluginVariable(x,"y"), or are you using SetVariable(newvar,GetPluginVariable(x,"y"))?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have it both as local, and setvar as a serilize save
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't recommend doing the serialize save, actually...from a data quality perspective, you're then no longer using an authoritative record
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: thats how i learned to set my variables when writting plugins, so that is how i do it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one plugin should be master of the data, and the other plugin can be a consumer
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a great way to write plugins when that plugin is on its own...this project is no longer the case
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OK after all that work - will someone using IPv6 completely bypass iptables?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'll bypass ipv4 iptables, of course
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you actually have a public IPv6 address?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No it's behind my IPv4 router.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and using comcast....I have a fixed IP address...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use ip6tables if you want to similarly cordon off IPv6 stuff, but if your IPv6 stack doesn't actually go anywhere, then I wouldn't worry about it (or you could just turn off IPv6 entirely with no functional loss)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://test-ipv6-ct.comcast.net/ says: No IPv6 address detected [more info]
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Guessing that means I'm in the clear.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: still not sure how i should save the data then
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're getting teh data from the other plugin, you shouldn't save the data
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just have the other plugin save the data!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have the other plugin save the data
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth goes ooOOooOOoo at you. You beam with pride.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i wanted the first one to be self sufficient, the second one just giving info
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You might look into onpluginbroadcast then
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: What exactly is your usecase?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have the second broadcast....
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Take a look at bast's for excellent examples...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only one plugin should "own" a given piece of the data...and that's the only one which should "write anything down" (save)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any other plugins which use the data, should either load the data from the first plugin when loading, or should query the first plugin when needed...which method you choose depends on knowing more about the nature of the "data"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta go run and pick up Eureka, will stop back on tech when I'm home :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: anyone savvy with laptop track pads?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have the vmware esxi 6.0u2 iso and vcenter 6.0u2 iso? (i have my own keys, so.. not asking for pirated crap)  i cant seem to get tothe download link for 6.0u2
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: anyone savvy with laptop trackpads? wondering if I can do 2 finger gestures with mine? currently I can't but wondering if there is a way to enable it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: What laptop do you have?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: lenovo ideapad z575
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Ahh not sure, sorry
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: its my work laptop.. and i hate it hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: btw i'm a dummy and didnt have the synaptiks software installed for the touchpad on this laptop.. am able to 2 finger scroll now
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: you two finger her, two finger her good now!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: oh i will.. this dirty girl sometimes requires 4...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: Gross.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: dont forget a pinky in the hdmi port
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: might be a little much.. this old hog might explode
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: isn't that the point, then you get a younger better model!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: haha.. i wish... i'm on my 4th one
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd like to write a mushclient script that has a form something like this: "mapper goto [some room]"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oops, part of it got cut off.  just a sec
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: double your semicolons :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd like to write a mushclient script that has a form something like this: "mapper goto [some room]"; "do some stuff"; "mapper goto [another room]".  The problem is that the 2nd "mapper goto" command executes relative to the starting location, not the location I'm at after the first "mapper goto" command.  I could add a dynamic one-shot trigger to call the second mapper command once the first completes, but that seems a little awkward.  Is there a cleaner method to ensure that commands execute in the order given only after previous commands complete? 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I don't think there is
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: there is a delay fuction.....cannot remember the name now
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, other than throwing a timer in there i cant think of any good way to do that... is there a specific room or situation you are trying to do that for?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: wait is the delay function but I don't think it does anything
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't want to just do a delay because there wouldn't be a guarantee that the first stuff completed
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I mean in terms of the execute
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: There are a few cases that I'd like to handle like this.  The first one is a simple way to restock on healing and lotus potions.  I want to run to a healing potion seller, but potions, then run to the lotus potion seller.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It sounds like a one-shot dynamic trigger is the way to go.  I just didn't want to miss an easier solution if it existed :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: can you put in a trigger that turns on with your first alias, listens for you have nothing to sell, then turns off that trigger and moves on to the next?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, that's essentially what I'll end up doing.  I just thought there might be some function I was missing like "waitForPreviousCommandToComplete" or some other magical variation of that :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that would be useful, please let us know if you find it :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hmm...Maybe I'll write that function in a generic way using a dynamic one-shot trigger.  It should be possible if you know what strings to trigger on.  
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you could always put a social or something in the alias and make it trigger off of the return of that
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: True, I could us a social, but I think I can get it in a cleaner, more general way.  This is a more fun problem to solve than what I was originally working on anyway :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: you need a NOP before you issue the second mapper command...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a NOP command?  If so, is it guaranteed to complete before subsequent commands are evaluated?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I don't know mush well enough, but it should flush the stack.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: late to the party..
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but I just echo something and trigger off of that
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: maybe there is something equivalent. i am surprised that you can't you relocate the current pointer.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's not a bad idea and it's close to what Emm suggested with a dummy social.  I might try something along those lines. 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Just wait til your gmcp room number lines up with the room you entered for the first mapper goto
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: that sounds good, wait on gmcp to complete.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm still a bit new at this...how can I get the room number programatically?  And is it something that can trip a trigger?  I thought triggers only went off when they say output from the mud and I don't recall seeing room numbers in normal usage.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you mean like mapper thisroom?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I struggled with the same problem for a while.. realized any script I couldn't depend on for timing.. and speedwalks take different amounts of time so DoAfterSpecial wouldn't work
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: when gmcp data changes a trigger is fired.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: that's how the mapper works, so if you wait on the same trigger you and the mapper will be synchronized.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks for the mapper thisroom suggestion.  I can't believe I missed that...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm still not sure I understand how to trigger on gmcp data though.  I'm using the AddTriggerEx() function that trips on a specific set of matches text (or regex).  Where does the gmcp data show up and in what form can I watch for it?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I imagine you could tweak the lua code of a plugin like xmapper to get it to execute later, I mean it already does that for the xcp thing
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, so I could just piggyback on top of an existing trigger
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Basically if you have gmcp plugin, every time gmcp plugin comes in you get a table of data about everything - room info, your character info, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Then you trigger off of that event
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: mapper thisroom actually goes off before the runto does for me
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It depends on the timing.  Sometimes the second mapper command happens too soon for me and sometimes it happens late enough to "work"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: because that is a clientside command not in the stack of commands executes server side
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I think you should just set your alias to add the trigger for a specific social output, go to the first room, do the social, and then have the trigger remove itself after runing to the second room
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just wanted a reliable way to serialize two commands and ensure that the first command completed before evaluating the second.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I use cmud and I work off the actual triggers so the data is always current.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so like #alias mgg * * [add triger] //n mapper goto %%1 //n smile
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I have serialization problems too (or I would if I didn't take care of them). Everything that uses gmcp goes through the same gateway, that way I am sure everything happens in order.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I should be able to do this with mushclient.  I think that using a dynamic one-shot trigger is probably the cleanest general solution and I could use that code in several other cases I'm working on too.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you can look at S&D plugin to see tricks for 1 shot triggers
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah but that is in lua not script right?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: fortunately, cmud has serialization built in.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm playing with lua as my scripting language
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: almost all the scripting in mush is lua
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well then yeah just look at S&D look at XCP <index>
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I write my scripts in lua too, because cmud is a client and a server, lua has full access to cmud commands :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: because it will run to the area, then do a hunt trick on your target, then do a where on your target and set it to your kill target
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: careful you don't go too far :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks everyone.  I think I have the info I need now.  I mainly just wanted to make sure that there wasn't a generic serialization command already available.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yes, you can't set it to kill your target
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: not in mushclient that I can see, Durel. You can always switch to cmud :>
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, or my target please if we're in a GQ
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no it doesn't actually do the kill you still have to type ak for that
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you can set a vatiable with the name of the target so a keypress will start combat though
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, my long-term goal is to actually build a clean-room implementation that is equivalent to S&D so I'm a bit reluctant to look at it right now.  That feels like cheating :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i just mean it sets it to be the thing you kill when you type ak
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yeah, i saw, just trying to stop durel from getting himself nuked
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anyway I need sleep
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I'll be careful :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: you can always ask us if you have doubts, Durel. Just make sure you have red help bot (and help stack commands).
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: have read*
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I read those about 10 times each so far just to be safe :D
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: is it just me or did google change their search results format?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: orders of pres trump
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: if it was trump he'd make sure his name showed up first under searches for "big hands" "huge hands"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: so your saying its better now
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: I dunno if I like it or not
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: get use to it or jump the wall
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: so did anyone else notice a change or what? :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I get time with mytime = os.time(), can I convert mytime to human readable form? (like Note( textutils.formatTime(mytime) )) 
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://www.lua.org/pil/22.1.html
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks! \\\mytime = os.time()
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks! \\\mytime = os.time(); Note(mytime);Note(os.date("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M", mytime))
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've seen that already yet somehow I missed that os.date part :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why not just Note(os.date("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M", os.time()))
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: maybe he likes to reminisce about old times!!
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: must be :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: So atm I use a mobile wireless device through a telecom company here. after 30gigs of 4g (as it runs through cellular) it toggles WAY DOWN (like .25kbs) so loading webpages is pretty long and annoying, and streaming is of course out of the question. now the odd thing I have found is I can still play online games (day of defeat source) with no loss of latency or speed, anyone know why that may be?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just several ports are monitored/filtered
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: so is there a way to have firefox use that same port?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure, just add :port after website address
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood thanks Trachx heartily.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but server needs serve webpages using that port :P
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess that your ISP just does something like: if port == 80 or port == 443 then limit bandwidth
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 80 and 443 are http and https
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also you could try using some VPN to bypass such simple filter
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but VPN also can be easily filtered/added to trafic shaper
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: Well I will try a vpn, i mean nothing to lose
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: thanks for the ideas
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I need converting time to human readable form with os.date because that time is fetched from db
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there any way to only use the first word in a (*) wildcard in zmud?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Did anyone else just get disconnected?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris shakes his head.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Damn you ISP
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a way for a mushclient trigger to trip on output directly from the mapper?  From what I've seen, triggers only go off on text sent back from the mud and not from status or info displayed by the mapper.  
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: As a more general case, if I print something from lua to the screen (status, debug, or something reported by the mapper) can I write a trigger to catch that?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have to use Simulate() instead.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks, that's helpful!  I'll look into that.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone a regex pro? :D
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or at least a mush regex pro?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have a regex with capture groups that works just fine on regexr.com, but isn't working the same in Mush.. so not sure if the implementation is slightly different in mush..
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: as far as greedy/lazy parsing
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's the same... but did you tick "Regular expression" box?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I'd be quite sad if it somehow got unchecked.. lemme confirm
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: still checked
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's the expression? Or what are you trying to capture?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have an alias that I'm trying to match on, it's a run to alias that basically tacks on a where once the runto completes
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I want to capture a multiple word named area for capture group 1, then the mob name for capture group 2
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: problem is.. I believe everything is getting lumped into capture group 1 from the aliases perspective since I'm matching spaces as well
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: alias' perspective*
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: essentially I want to always match capture group 2 first then go backwards and match capture group 1 later with what's left
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you want to be able to do: runto this area here mob name here?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: something like this (.*?)\>(.*?)\n.{31}(.*?)\Z
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right, and it works fine if I only send a word area name
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Geez, 31??
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you can count the characters if you want to confirm ...
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why do you have a line break?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm assuming that's a c/p from your own?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mine is an alias that I send myself like "rt [area name with spaces] [mob name]"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yeah that's my own. and if i don't it catches anything 
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'd be better off training yourself to separate them with quotes. so '(.*)' '(.*)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have two aliases.. one will match on just rt [area name], and the other will match on rt [area name] [mob name] and send a where when I get there
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: use a shorter area name
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh that's true.. I guess I could do it that way
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I want a pretty long area name so as to not match on other areas
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: and that trigger of mine is to catch the output from where. wish i could fix it to work reliably
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The issue stems from not knowing how long either is going to be. If you're using only one word for the mob name, ALWAYS, then you can just do (.*) (\w+)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just create a table by triggering on "area keyword" so that I can easily convert to a single word keyword for each area but still use the long name if I want to for matches
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yajan, are you familiar with area keywords?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Each area has its own separate keyword you can use for runto.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like the ones that it corrects to in bypass?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: only vaguely.. from that usage
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: area keyword will listen them all.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hrmm!
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can do area keyword fens, for example.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: maybe I could use that instead in my runto lookup
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I also do a lookup for the area name using area, but if I did area keyword I could probably just grab from there
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: kk, I'll kick these solutions around - thanks all
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Again...
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I generated a table with all of the areas, keywords, min/max/lock levels, starting rooms, etc. for everything output by "area keyword" and then dumped the result into the lua code for the array so that I can use it going forward.  I can send that to you if you'd like.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right.. that thought had crossed my mind, not sure if I need at this point, but may be a good idea going forward
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Since it's programatic, I can easily pick up new area if they are ever added.  It's all basesd on triggers when you run "area keyword"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd like to create a mushclient trigger to track the name of each mob I kill, but there are lots of different death messages (maybe one for each damage type?) and I'm not seeing an easy way to handle this with one trigger.  Is there an easier solution than creating a series of triggers that handle each damtype individually?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: maybe trigger off of corpse clean-up?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sac/consume, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: easy way, download basts broadcast_kills and work with that
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, that's it!  I had autosac turned off.  
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: won't work if you're blind though
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks for the suggestions :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: also if you're grouped, might have issues if you don't get last hit
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but, it's a quick solution
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's not Your last kill if someone else kills it :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: experience message might work
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hehe true dat
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh nvm experience doesn't have mob name
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Bast has tracking in his systems. why create a wheel again? :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: "cuz my wheel has 20" rims!"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan is lookin 4 a ho 2 PiMpsLaP!
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, I know I'm re-inventing the wheel, but I'm mainly just having fun learning lua coding :) I'm trying to solve the problems that interest me as I'm learning the new environment :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I totally wrote my own mapper stuff and didn't use S&D, I'm still solving little edge cases and such, but it's nice to be able to customize easily
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sometimes it is easier/better to use other people's stuff though, case-by-case I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: definitely good for learning.. as you're bound to come across stuff that no one has published a plugin for
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I'm right there with you.  The best way to learn is to dive in.  Honestly, I'm having a blast programming again.  I've been out of the programming game a little too long for my taste :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know how to save world details via a command?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm looks like sending [script prefix]Save("") should work.. no output though.. lol
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: k based on .mcl file modified timestamp.. looks like it works
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: why would s&d take me deep into a zone as a starting point? because of when i installed it?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: go to the beginning of the area and xset mark
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Because it thinks that's the start room for the area.  Use regular "runto" to get there, then "xset mark"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: i'm doing that as i discover them, just wondering why
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: are they areas with more than one entrance like kobalois?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: underdark
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: nanjiki currently
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: so yes. it has to do with the area having more than one entrance
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: mapper picks the fastest
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: er, not nanjiki though, afaik
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: it took me several rooms past the runto entrance
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: so not the entance or the portal landing?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: no, i don't have the portal for that yet
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Dash shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: i was thinking maybe because i had explored some of it prior to installing s&d, i dunno
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: ah. it might be a winkle logic thing, i guess then.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Older versions used the date the rooms were added to the database to determine the first room. The logic being the first room you went to was probably the first room of the area.  That's no longer the case, and the date added field was actually removed a while ago.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i don't use it
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: thanks metria
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: not sure if it will reach a majority of the users, but for those of you that use sharptracker, what are the main features you like?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: test'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: test test
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Anyone use lemonbar?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is that similar to lemon party?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Lol
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Similar to polybar
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is there a way to color mushclients help files? or would i need to make it a function for that?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: Can I create a virtual private network via Android, can I piggyback the local 3G network for free internet?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: if I create*
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Do you mean use your phone as a wifi-hotspot?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: lol no, I mean connecting to a mobile service provider with a vpn and stealing internet from my isp
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How would your ISP not e
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How would your ISP not know you are connecting?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: using Orbot
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: I don't think vpn is stealing internet..
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I don't think you will be able to do that. They know how much data is transfered to you
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: TOR network 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Tor doesn't hide the fact that data is being transfered to you
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood is agreeing with that Giddorah person again...
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: TOR/VPN are just used to anonymize traffic
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: I think you understood vpn wrong..
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Tor only makes the actual data you recieve is harder to read
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean regarding your ISP
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use TOR or VPN - your ISP cannot examine your traffic
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Exactly, they still know exactly how many bytes you recieve and send though
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however exit TOR node can intercept your traffic (quite often exit nodes do that)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: meh, was a shot in the dark
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: not even
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all depends on how does your ISP filter traffic
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if there are some services without limits or only some with limits - you can bypass that
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: in the effort of full disclosure, I'm nowhere near as savvy as my inquiry may have suggested... I just have a tendancy to delve into the rabbit hole if you were
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hehe, it's okay. See if your neighbours networks are open. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: your'e eleven with parents that don't give you attention. got it. perhaps stick to Reddit.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however I doubt that your 3G ISP just filter some services, much easier is just count your transfer then limit it to 10k after you've exceeded limit
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: aww Redwood... why so salty? been losing hardcore mode again?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: havent been hardcore in over a tier. try and stay relevant
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: My apologies, sir... 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood pees around himself intently.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Is there a way to paginate the 'aff' page?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Have you tried the 'saff' command instead? :)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Yeah, but that's still not paginated either
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: pagesize
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Pagesize does not seem to work on those pages
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Maybe post a note on ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood rapidly nods twice at Giddorah, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I don't think anybody would mind that to be optionably pageable :)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Yeah, it would be nice to have. I'll post a note
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Same goes for the resists page
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use "pagesize 104" and replace the pageprompt with: pageprompt ##########1234567890##########1234567890##########1234567890##########
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: paging the aff and resists is surely to be annoying
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check affects for specific stat
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or spells/skills - like "aff sanct", "aff dex"
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: It would still be nice to have as an option. I guess a few people play on small screens, and pagesize is made for exactly that purpose.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you should post it to bugs board
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: would be nice for those on mobile
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Exactly :)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not a bug
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you set pagesize and output it not paged - it is a bug
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: I would think the pagesize setting should apply globally, to everything.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is either bug in how pagesize works or in "help pagesize"
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: seems there is no scrollback on those mobiles
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol wouldn't it be nice if pagesize worked a little more like a linux less file? space to go one page in, b to go one page back
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 70 lines per screenpage here. scrollback here is set to scrollback on the top 35 lines
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: this permits current action to be viewed, while looking at the scrollback lines
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you are PK, you don't go scrolling back whole page by whole page - when you get back, you may be dead
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: self-paginate with  PG;aff;PG  where PG == echo @W##########1234567890##########1234567890##########1234567890##########@w
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: even set up a mudside alias
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use a brief version: alias afp echo @W##########1234567890##########@w;;aff;;echo @W##########1234567890##########@w
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the default "pageprompt none" is difficult to spot
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: although pagesize is set to 104, extremely glad the 110 lines of affect all displayed and did not break 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: usually pagesize is 210, but today was disconnected when displaying tech -h 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there were 130 lines of new tech since prior login
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: usually 200 lines does not disconnect
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but some may view "affect" not breaking per pagesize as a "bug"
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is "annoying" is that pagesize also counts the 2 pageprompt lines.  hence pagesize 104 instead of 100, or 210 instead of 200
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: in Dina font monospaced?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: where am i most likely to find dell gaming laptop releases in orlando/fl?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: newegg.com?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh i mean stores
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: walmart
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: newegg.com and dell.com require american issued credit cards
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Amazon?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: amazon is very good but they haven't gotten the new inspiron gaming yet
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm affraid i'll have to locate a store which is most likely to have the releases in stock
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: good luck
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you're in orlando? why not just open a bank acct? then you can get an american cc
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: stores in America have been replaced by amazon and walmart
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i live in brazil, but i was thinking about the possibility of opening up a bank account in there. not sure if i can and upkeep cost
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: try best buy
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: newegg always seems to have the best selection and prices
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: are there such things as "digital/electronic bank accounts" with no upkeep and "no upkeep" credit cards?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: because we have those in here
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: bitcoin?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what exactly does a "bitcoin" look like
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: ones and zeroes
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: does america not do prepaid credit cards?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: they do
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: then all lobisome has to do is wonder into a shop that sells them and charge one  up then go on a spending spreeeeeee
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sold at any walmart and most other chain stores, some grocery stores even
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: he could just give me the money and I can buy it ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: where do you live tol?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: prepaid credit cards: fixed surcharge for the card, surcharge small percentage of the amount, they expire, and may come in inconvenient amounts 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with prepaid credit cards, you pay a "premium"
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. that could also be a good option
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the store gets some money, and the credit card company gets some money, even more so when the cards expire
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: does newegg accept those?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does customs in Braxil charge anything on incoming goods from the USA
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: there are rules (i work for the irs which, in brazil, does the customs :D) basically: $500 free of charge limit plus one watch one cellphone one camera. rest is 50% "simplified" taxing system
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and what happens if there are "problems later" with the merchandise
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and clothes, as long as they're used during the trip (not for sale, "people" aren't allowed to _import_ for commerce) are free of taxes too
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: gotta go, lunch time :p
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: especially if monies are required to expedite handling
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: laters!
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thanks for the tips
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a Paypal USA and a Paypal Canada.  perhaps there is a Paypal Brazil
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: not sure what you mean about paypal, I have two paypal accounts, one linked to my US card, and the other linked to a Banka Intesa card (serbia), but the parent company of that bank is in sao paolo, so maybe look into opening an account with them?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: and both my cards work fine.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: both accounts rather
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Amazon takes Paypal
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Paypal doesn't expire either (?)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not that I know of I have cash sitting in there from afew years ago
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Paypal trumps Visa 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: could someone do me a favor and tracert 50.56.6.211 ? all my hops are missing from 13-30...
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: you do understand that fundamentally our tracert is different from yours, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: just want to see if it's my end or not
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nah... its not on your end.note
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nah... its not on your end.note
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: thanks koopa
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: im still letting mine run... but its not abnormal that tracert doesnt resolve all the way
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: reason I ask is because I can't access wowhead on chrome nnor edge
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: browser comes up blank
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: loads for me
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: worked fine 2 or 3 days ago on same i.p and router
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: if it loads blank and not an error, that is telling... tells look
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: bah
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: tried changing my DNS primary & secondary to no avail
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: yeah www.wowhead.com loads for me
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nslookup is a totally different IP for me though
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: I know... ends in 120-123 right?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nope...  doesnt really matter what it ends with, its probably load balanced
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: 123 is the only one that doesn't time out on all 4 default ping requests from my end
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: looks like I have to wait for demi-god wizardry... fook
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: I'm out
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: suggest me a good free android emulator please
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Visual Studio?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: is there such an emulator or you want me to code one from scratch with visual studio?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's emulators built in to Visual Studio
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and visual studio gives it for free?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: hmm.. tehy don't mention a price.. so, ima download and see I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: what is the most current version of MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: for aard? the one from the aard website
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: Nod
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: latest is always from the site in fiendish's finger
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: thx
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard website only updates the link periodically, but fiendish updates things between then
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: what was the mush toggel fullscreen key combo?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: its strangely difficult to google for, can someone just click on "view" menu and tell me pls?`
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: twas ctrl+alt+f:P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just started playing around with plugins and it isn't clear to me what pieces of a plugin are exposed outside of the plugin.  I can use aliases in a dummy plugin I wrote, but is there a way to expose functions or variables from a plugin?  Or is it entirely in its own sandbox other than the aliases it implements?  I can work with either answer, but the answer will dictate how I architect things.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, this is for mushclient.  I should have mentioned that.  :P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can reference other plugsin by their ID.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is in its own sandbox, but there are hooks to let you access it from other plugins (or outside plugins)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But other than that, everything is internal to the plugin itself.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use CallPlugin(), or GetPluginVariable() for example
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For instance, GetPluginVariable.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Excellent.  Those look like the pieces I was looking for.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if there are pieces of your plugin that your plugin updates regularly and that you want other plugins to know about, there's OnPluginBroadcast()...this is what is used for GMCP stuff, for example
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast's plugins are broken up into the "gather the data" plugin, and the "give the interface/miniwindow" plugin, for example
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: onpluginbroadcast can be used for more then just GMCP stuff, it actually listens to many different things
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: most things you would want in a plugin have been written by other people, so its good to download them, even if its just to look over the code
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Good advice.  I'll probably take a look at Bast's code, feel deficient, and just use what he wrote :P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The good news is that my leveling rate would probably increase :D
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it can be daunting, his and fiendishs code can be a little difficult to read at somepoint :P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: pft, leveling increased, i only level to test that my plugins are working now =/
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm used to reading difficult to read code from my co-workers.  The difference is that I suspect Bast's code actually works...
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: my code is difficult to read, sometimes, when i dont take the time to make it pretty *shifty
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Arcidayne, when you updated (purchased) sector-type field3 in extra room 2 of the old manor, did that automatically update the room from indoors to outdoors at no extra cost
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Guinness Tech: yes that's supposed to be adjusted according to the room sector chosen
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what does nomap do to a manor room - anything useful
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the amount a T0 is likely to spend to purchase+update replicate the Acidayne old manor seems to be 90 tp 102,750,000 gold, 6225 qp 
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish burps loudly.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: hi fiendish
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: oh man, there goes tech!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Fiendish is druink?!?!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: fiendish is drunk. *
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: he usually is
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I might be drunk also ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: its okay, we all need that bender once in awhile
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: findish is there something in mushclient where i can delay a trigger from being fired and test for another trigger? (basically I want Trigger A to fire, if Trigger B does not fire within a second trigger A will fire)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can do that , sure
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: here's what I'd do
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (without having thought about it much)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: trigger A fires and activates a timer for 1 second that actually will do the thing you want
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if trigger b fires, it cancels the timer
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i forgot about timers, have not really used them
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you will want https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: DoAfterSpecial lets you send to script ("12")
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: What kind of things are you trying to do? You might be able to just throw it in a single trigger
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you'll want to define a function that does the thing you want, and have your DoAfterSpecial call invoke that function on a 1 second delay
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Since either one or the other will fire, but never both, elif was made for it
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it would have been nice if mush could do millisecond timers.  o well
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I believe he said he wants to have two triggers where one that may or may not fire cancels the previous one
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's pretty clear
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient can do 10th of second timers. why do you need millisecond?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: further, if your computer isn't busy doing anything else, OnPluginTick will get called up to 25 times per second, but it's low priority to Windows so it gets coopted by other activity
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my repaint buffer plugin actually makes use of that
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: cool thanks, ill check it out in a bit, im kinda going through all of my plugins right now, adding my help files, and fixing bugs i have noticed
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: That's fair, it is what he said. I'm curious as to what the actual goal is though, because sometimes there's another way to do things
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah maybe, but this question wasn't asked in a way that made me think "this person just doesn't know"
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: its just for my gold tracker, because when you are in a group 2 seperate messages get sent dealing with the gold (one if you get the kill, you then get 2 lines of text) or if you dont get the kill,  unless i probe GMCP for gold values and look for changes, i dont want to do that, so i was going to do the two trigger method
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probing GMCP is actually pretty easy
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course you still need to trigger if you don't want to use OnPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know it is, but im also seperating how the gold was gained/lost, ill probably do some GMCP probing to deal with auctions because there is no real message when you lose/gain gold to an auction
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is there a list of gmcp vars and maybe a howto for using them fiend?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: theres been a couple of things i thought about doing using gmcp but i dont have a clue how to use it
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: other than dissecting some other script but that doesnt tell me all the available vars
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: took m a bit to figure it out, but once you learn its quite easy
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ah sweet, thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think the list of what's available is on http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: and Grushnak i maybe new to plugins on mushclient but im not new to coding scripts for the mud
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wtf how did my xterm option get turned off :(
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Hadar, I didn't think you were. I thought you expressed what you wanted pretty clearly. But just because you know which way is up doesn't mean someone else can't have a better idea :)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: long live zmud
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can find my zmud scripts at http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/zMUD%20Scripts/
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: shame there is no zscript plugin for mush :)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: wait, let me open up cmud, those are some of my favorite scripts :P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Psh, gone through zMUD and CMUD, now on to TT++
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i tried TT++, i hesitated moving to MUSH because I would need to re-do most of my scripts, most of them where lazly coded in both zscript and lua, so now i need to remake them all from scratch, but most people i know would ask for plugins in mush so i caved and moved over, to learn
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the major problem moving from zmud and cmud isn't the zscript part. It's the different windowing system.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: miniwindows are very flexible but also very difficult to set up
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: cmud likes to crash when resizing windows
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that, and the mapper works completly different
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it did it the other day, corrupted the database, and took out my entire script system
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have to remember to open my doors now
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could program doors opening in if you wanted
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i could, but i have other things on my list
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have like 3-4 plugins im working on, then i need to work on getting hadar.ninja back up to date
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I didn't add it in because it's already doable with cexits as they are. I didn't see a huge difference between "mark this exit as a door" vs "start this cexit with open door" except for maybe prettiness
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i use one trigger to auto-open doors, with an alias for each direction
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: mainly i just get upset with cexits that are not in a speedrun
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i set all doors as cexits, my auto-opener is only useful when im manually moving around and bump a door
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: but its fixable, will probably get around to it if i ever get back to leveling
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: long live zmud
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is there currently a way to get silverlight to work with chrome? I googled and tried the setting flag thing (But it was removed) i have firefox installed so im using that to view the website
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: I would think not, as google and microsoft have long had incompatibility issues. ive never been able to get silverlight working in chrome, like you I use firefox when needed
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is Silverlight a NPAPI plugin?  Chrome permanently disabled those
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: Yes Silverlight is NPAPI
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It won't ever work then, Chrome disabled those in Chrome 45
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: thats what i thought
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a "clean" way to get a mushclient script to reload when you modify it during development?  If I modify and save my script, I need to do something manually (e.g., open the mushclient trigger window) to get the client to reload the script and pick up my changes.  Even worse, I just created a module file and use "require [file name]" to pick up the module in my main script.  If I change the module code, I think it is getting cached somewhere and I need to manually break the "require [file name]" command (by changing the name to a non-existent file and the changing it back) for the new module code to get picked up.  Help me with my design flow!  What should I be doing instead?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i dont know, i normally just hit ctrl+shift+p and reinstall that way, takes like 2 extra seconds, i find it longer to copy/paste from my working directory to my mushclient directory lol
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: ^
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, so you recommend just using plugins exclusively for your active development?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can add a 'reload' code in your plugin to reload the script.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I thought it would be easier to wait to build the plugin until I had the code fleshed out and mostly working
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah i find it easier to just use plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I did that with a script, built the triggers and stuff first, then built the plugin for it.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, I'll probably give the plugin design flow a shot.  It can't be worse than the monstrosity I'm using now :P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i just made a template file, and update it as needed, make the plugin ID with Edit>Generate unique ID
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i dont think i have had to open the triggers/alias' anything inside of mush since i firsted started making plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't even need to create the Unique ID. You can use whatever you want, provided it's not used by anything else.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: was not sure how it actually worked, was thinking about just using my own lables for them
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyways, back to trying to figure out how to do a plugin updater
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, just to be clear, you are talking about generating a plugin xml file and then you just do your active development on that xml file directly?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah, i made my first couple plugins with the wizard, and from now on, i use a template xml file i made
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Excellent.  We're on the same page.  Thanks again!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: This page is too crowded now..
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: all the file has in it is a trigger, and a couple alias' and my new helpfile function
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok for regular expression gurus out there.  how to unconvert ^action ( {1,}(.*)){0,1}$ to plain language please? 
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That is a very weird action.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I bet there is an easier way to do it.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Yeah, that's a really, really weird way to do it
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: does it work?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Essentially,  it's "action followed by at least 2 spaces, but could be unlimited spaces, followed by whatever, if it exists, and only one time after that.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: No, the whole sequence either appears once or no times.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: yeah, I suppose that the {.1} applies to the preceeding space.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: sorry, the {1,}
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Knew what ya meant :)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: but that's not how it was designed to be used :)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: well what it does, is that it supposed to pick up a number after action, but that number isn't 'required'.  and when i look at my send field, the number is picked up as %2  i wrote this while back, and can't recall what the original alias field looked like before having had converted to regexp.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Number after what action?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Solid examples please:)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: example again:  [23 Jan 22:59:06] Negader Tech: ok for regular expression gurus out there.  how to unconvert ^action ( {1,}(.*)){0,1}$ to plain language please? 
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: No, I meant what string arey ou trying to match the action to
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: isn't a trigger, it's an alias, does it need to match?   match action   or action number  wheere number is a single digit
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Er, action is a trigger, not an alias.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Ohhh your actual alias uses the word action. I see.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Okay so if you need to just match that, then do ^action( (d+))?$
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: and that would allow the # to be optional?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I assumed that "action" was a literal.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Then, for mush I'm assuming? You can check if there is a number by checking if "%2" == nil
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: but if it isn't, the %2 capture above makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Er, I mean check if %1 == nil.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: if "%1" ~= nil then -- %2 is your number end
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: right my first line in the send field shows:  if "%2" == "" then    
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: And you made sure to select regular expression, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: And send-to script?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes. yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Okay, then do the if statement I stuck up there.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: the -- denotes a comment.
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: can anyone explain how to make triggers on seperate channels so multiple sounds can play at once and not interrupt each other? for example, I'd like to make battle sounds but put them seperate from the channels.
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=PlaySound
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that should do it for you
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: and do you have to write a whole new xml for this or is it somewhere in the program itself? Remember my knowledge is limited to triggers and the concept of scripting, in other languages.
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: woot! just taught myself to make my first macro lol
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: good evening. Is Abelinc here please? Pleiades send me here
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: im trying to play aard on the fmud flash client. But for some reason i cant get connected. Give me a black screen and if i press numbers only give me direction. 
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: from work?
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: yes from work. Nightshift and boss knows lol. He just looked at the screen and say he got no idea what to do 
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archilles Tech: So I've been following this dude around as he does his campaign and I can't seem to enter cexits. Is this just me?
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sometimes you have to enter them manually.
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: is there any way to change xrt or speedwalk directions?
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: exitlevels from mapper
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: I guess you can make your own alias too..
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: otherwise xrt uses shortest path mapper can find
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: hmmmm ok, thanks for the advices Nuanse and Soulstealer!
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: you can mark rooms as do not enter by setting the level restriction on them
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: Hadar!! omg
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: does s&d work for global quests as well? Seem that it cannot run campaign and GQ simultaneously?
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I've used it for a gquest but I wasn't on a campaign at the time so I don't know if it will work while doing both
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: publicly-distributed S&D by default does not do everything on GQs (by design)
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, it only worked as a list keeping track of the mobs I think
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I couldn't click them or something if I remember correctly
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But hey, you get a visible list all the time. That's already a huge improvement
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it can give you a list of gq mobs in the window by gq c.. nothing more.. 
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Exactly
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone know much about linux displays?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am having an issue that after turning off and on a display, in an 3 monitor setup, all of a sudden the resolution on the third changes and panning is enabled
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what info is stored in the world .MCL file?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mine went bad, and would like to know what i might be missing
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you can check it by opening in notepad or similar
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's xml file
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thought i tried that, guess not
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: there is a way on mushclient to display the prompt line after every message recived from the mud?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: how is dat?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's in the settings somewhere... I'm on zmud for the moment so I can't really help you find it
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But it is a checkbox in one of the settings
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: thank you ill give a look
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, it is there. I know it, because I asked a couple of weeks ago :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: why would you need a prompt after every line?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i like it that way :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh wait, I might have misunderstood you
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I only read half the messages before I answer most of the time anyways
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: tech lol
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if you want to see your health while idling, just turn on tickinfo
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You didn't want the command prompt to save your last command?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: no just my prompt to show up after every input
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: That sounds more like a mud feature than a client feature. Have you had it like that on any other client?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: on my zmud i had it
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: as in this prompt --> [1076/1076hp 484/955mn 1432/1432mv 30qt 1380tnl] >
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Is it possible to disable the coloring of room names only?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: put tags on for roomnames and trigger that string to rewrite the name without colors
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Ah, I'm wondering because color codes for room names still show up in gmcp, and mudlet does not handle that very well.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yet another reason to change into aardmush :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Isn't there a color mode off setting in Z?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Err... Aard
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Yes there is, which disables every color in the game :p
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Just wondering if it's possible to disable it in gmcp
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: color
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ansi
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: can you edit the gmcp packets in mudlet, and strip the color codes, before they are processed?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Well yes, I would have to fix it in mudlet itself, and recompile it entirely
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Because the gmcp table is not even updated, so there's no processing to be done in any plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: It just does not process rooms with colored names.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: is the mudlet mapper working here, or does it still require x, y, z coords for rooms? I haven't checked in a while
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Ah, got it! There's a setting called 'protocols gmcp rawcolor' that turns off colors!
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xor Tech: hi, how do I bind arrow keys to movement in mudlet?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: anyone familar with gmcp info?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: depends..
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: trying to find what it sends for opk bonus on questing
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: One second
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: quest.opk?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: GMCP QUEST is {action}{comp}{completed}{56583}{daily}{0}{double}{0}{gold}{3970}{
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's just under OPK.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: just opk, not quest.opk?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: GMCP.quest.opk (not sure case matters or what it is.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well trying to add it to a working script, replacing the following lines with the opk to see if that would work before trying.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: if tonumber (gmcpval("quest.opk")) == nil then last_quest_tier = tonumber (0)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: else last_quest_tier = tonumber (gmcpval("quest.opk"))
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: but replacing tier with opk
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think that would work....
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Only one way to find out, sorry I don't have the latest gmcpval or whatever, always done it through older methods.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: cool. just wanted to see if there were red flags from anyone here.. never really mess with the scripting on things, this seemed like a easy thing to try
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: uhm, new mushclient user, how do you get the commands to stay in the command line?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think it's a setting you can toggle on
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: alt-0 and repeat command from right side 
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nice.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: uhm, running in WINE on a mac
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: game-configure-commands
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nice x2
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's not "keep commands on prompt line"?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is that different?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: uhm, new mushclient user, how do you get the commands to stay in the command line?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: whoa, must be working?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: oh yeah, thanks, that was it  :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan wildly high fives the air, looking very foolish -- very foolish indeed.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: well not really, the up arrows to go through previous commands worked...
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i just went tooo far
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so many things from my old client just gone.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i could play on it with my eyes closed.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: once you get used to mush, you wont be missing your old client
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's botting! :P
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: haven
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: haven't playe in two years and i still rememebr all the commands
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i've had that client, and those scripts for probably 10 years of active playing.  gonna be hard to not use them.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: btw, you misspelled your name, it should end in T instead of R
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lyrik laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Ziiiing!
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what was your old client
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Mush aint so bad, just different
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i dont even know how to do a spellup without my scripts.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper alone will be worth all your scripts and some
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: try "spellup"
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: kal what was your old client
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: Kallenbor you should check out WinkleWinkle plugins.... they are for the pure lazy like myself
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i have zmud, and everything mapped.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: being able to complete a campaign with 2 commands is kinda uh... yah well its so lazy but damn its fast
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what is the current version of search and destroy?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: well, everything that was around before I quit that is
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i never got my scripts that sophisticated
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: finger nokfah impuritan
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: current version is 2.8 i believe
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: current version of what?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: search and destroy
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: isn
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: atleast that's the latest version i could find and I installed this mud new years
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: isn't that botting though?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: search and destroy just enhances mapper
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you still need to do the commands to kill and go
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: nah .. what nuanse said.. and it uses hunt trick
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: hunt trick?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: so... xcp 1, go 1, a k, repeat haha
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: remember, two years retired  :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: help hunt trick
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: works with normal quest too
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: ahh, that.  yeah old trick
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it's so standard for me to do that i don
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it's so standard for me to do that i don't even consider it a trick
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: and I still typo a semi-colon for the apostrophe
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: whats wrong with your enter key?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: I just answered that  :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i'm not quick enough
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: I god mushclient running.  I wonder if I can get zmud running in WINE
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I used zmud through wine years ago.. shouldnt be problem now
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i think i tried it years ago in the commercail WINE app and couldn
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i think i tried it years ago in the commercail WINE app and couldn't get it to work.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper didnt work back then, otherwise it was just ok
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: I think it is called crossover
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: wow, this mapper maps well.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i just need to figure out how to add stuff to it for opening doors and entering stuffs...
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: 'mapper cexit <blahblah>'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper cexit open east;;east
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: gotta be in that room?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it's not a trigger?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: ahhh ok so something like 'mapper cexit harmonize' works then eh?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: nope, mapper uses those cexits primarily for moving from room to room
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah lyrik
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: hot damn!
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: You can do pretty much whatever you want. The mapper pulls the room you're in at the start and the room at the end and as long as they're different it'll save the stuff you put after cexit as 'this is how you get from this room to the other'. So if there are pop load keys, or store keys, you can include retrieving them in your cexit.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: mind blown... ok so if i need to buy something, and give it to someone to get something, and take that something to someone... cexit blah di blah di blah, and then it will continue the route?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lyrik gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The only real limitation is that you can't kill a mob automagically to get a key and use the key because that would be considered botting
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: yes because you can't automate kill commands
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Mostly. I've noticed particularly where you give things, the mobprog has a delay which can mess up the mapper. There's only a few areas I've noticed it in, so I haven't bothered trying to figure out how to put them in properly
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just use wait(1) as a command where number is seconds
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lyrik moves poop!  . ..<<!Boomsplat!>>.. .
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: @Durel that's botting??
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't do it.. just surprised that's different than a cexit
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I didn't think that you were allowed to have your client automatically kill a mob without your intervention.  Maybe I'm being conservative in my intepretation for cexits?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I mean I get how it violates the "letter of the law" as you're sending an autokill command, but that's not the target you're actually after, so as long as you don't kill your actual target automatically I do believe it doesn't violate the "spirit of the law"
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: killing automatically is BOTTING
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: No, I don't remember the helpfile off the top of my head, but at least one of the helpfiles explicitly states that you must execute kill commands yourself
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: thats what i read as well
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: start with help botting
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I always imagined that was in the context of not killing your target mob
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: regardless if its a gq or not, a trigger to kill is illegal
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it is a slippery slope though to get too exact as to which mob you kill, so I imagine that's why it's just overarching this = always bad
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yes, I can read thank you.. lol
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: I rather like it as a hard line. I may be misinterpreting, but I take to end up meaning you can do whatever you want for movement automation as long as you manually kill
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I think it's *intended* to be literally interpreted, so as not to leave any gray area
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but I imagine the IMMs would *like* to allow people to autokill a key mob if it's not the target, but the sad truth is that that freedom could (and probably would) be abused, and so therefore they've been forced to have it be all mobs need to be killed manually
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: (mushclient)one of the plugins i wrote errored, and im not exactly sure what the error means, can someone help? http://pastebin.com/PaQxbq1a
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: [string "Plugin: HadarClanDonate"]:170: attempt to index global 'math' (a number value)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I guess math is some value that contains number, and you've tried to do something like math[x] = y
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: or you tried to use what you thought was a number but Lua thought it was a string, try tonumber() around math before you use the value
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: fing hadar
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol mis
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: well then
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: pastbin the function
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: http://pastebin.com/BJcLd21V
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: change math to something more like xmath
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: math is name of something other in Lua
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/MathLibraryTutorial
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: easy way to tell would be to do type(math) before the print
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: probably not a number
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: post roundup also please
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the error is coming from roundup not really from goldquit
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone else get displays randomly changing where they are when using multiple displays in ubuntu?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Which window manager?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: using the nvidia-settings to set it up
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: x is the display manager
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the middle screen keeps going exactly 30 points down which makes the first screen pan at the edges
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I've usually had a lot of random things happen when I use Linux. Can't stand it any longer, too experimental. Have you tried Mint instead?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have not
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You are, right now?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am what?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Having random things happen to you
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it just happens randomly where it changes the middle display to 30 points down
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yup, those are some of the irks
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mint isn't instead of linux, mint is linux (unless you mean the original mint on ataris)...
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I know... I meant if he had tried another distribution of Linux to see if the window manager works better.
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And no, I didn't mean on Atari. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I tried fedora once, but my wife just got used to ubuntu and she needs to use this computer
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: any way to make a sound play when double starts? Another Mush user here
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just define trigger
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: how?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: something like that: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x9mhw54jtpp3698/gqtrig.png?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is actually for GQ, but for double you just different "Trigger" part
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just define several triggers:  ^For the next 10 minutes (?s)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: ^For the next 15 minutes (?s)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: and: ^Double experience(?s)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: and: ^\[ 10 minutes of double (?s)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I think you can skip that for the next 10 minutes one - it is previous SH double IIRC
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: can anyone help me? I removed the chat plugin on mush. how to enable it again?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: file>plugins>add
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: no chatting for you!
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: anyone know where I can get the Rainbow text plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: castro district?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: castro 
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: this plugin should come with a warning - too many rainbows and you be quieted forever
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you can try moby dick at 18th and hartford
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: So I'm running into issues loading up a copy of mush on my hubby's PC; namely that when I use a fresh install without my aliases/triggers/extra plugins etc.. his resolution is such that I basically lose all of my mini windows and can't see them to drag them back into view. Including the chat log. Is there a way to get my aliases/triggers/etc that won't also bring over miniwindow positions?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: I mean, when I load up my old .mcl file I lose everything out of view. Fresh install is ok, but.. lacks my aliases and triggers and such
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: resetaard ?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or you could move all aliases & triggers to some plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: will try resetting. semi related, is there a way to turn chat echos back on for main window, when you don't have the context menu in the communication log to do it through? (in case reset doesn't work, since I'm about to be loading the other stuff)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: actually it does not seem that mcl file carries window positions
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: just type chat echo on
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: thanks. going to try things.
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: Ok, this time it worked. Thank you. I must have been copying over some of the plugin files and doing too much at once and messing myself up.
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm running mushclient v4.98 via wine on a Mac and it *mostly* works.  If I let it go idle too long (several hours) it hangs and spins one of my CPUs at 100% until I manually kill the process.  Have any of you seen something similar or have a work-around for that?  Wine spits out lots of warnings too: "fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet" or "fixme:win:LockWindowUpdate (0x0), partial stub!".  If the locking mechanism isn't reliable that would explain almost everything -- except why other people aren't complaining about it :P
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: So I am about to go from win 8.1 to win 10, is there anything I need to do for/to mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i have 4.81. i just ran it after win 10 installed and it was ok
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: awesome, thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: is there a way, on mushclient, to set the number of bad move attempts the mapper makes before aborting a move to command?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well what is causing the bad moves?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: combat with aggro mobs
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: and yes i'm all the kinds of hide/snak/invis anyone can be
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: finish the fight, run the goto again from that room and it should just pick up where it left off
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: if usind s&d just type nx
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: it does, but it stacks so many commands that you could get mugged too
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: mugged?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: often the fight is over before it begins but who knows who else might use it to ambush or some such evil device
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: I understand.. the combat isnt lasting more than a round, the stacked commands are running you the wrong way?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: ummm descent to hell has no shortcuts that i know. if you need to go to the last rooms, that's 60+ rooms
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: so you need to cexit the rooms you find those small aggros. mapper cexit <dir>;;wait<seconds>;;<next dir>
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: that will give you a pause to allow the combat
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: a better question might be, is there a way to cancel input from mushclient? some clients have a special character that will cancel input
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well yes
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: ctrl+k 2x
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: that hard dc's you
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: well that's not much good :p
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: but you have no idea what commands the mud actually gets before your side dc's
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: otherwise no.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: no, it's easier to just wait it out, i was hoping there was a way to shorten the stack
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: then add the wait cexits, and it should all still go smoothly automated
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: but thanks for the input
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hi folks.  I've been playing with lua scripting this week and I'm a little paranoid about crossing the line into botting.  My interpretation from the helpfiles is that you can auto-run to a list of mobs in a campaign as long as the script stops in the mob's room and you manually enter a kill command after you enter the room. I just tried out my script that does that and completed a campaign in 2:18 -- and that included a mob in the Gauntlet.  Is this really legal?  It just feels...wrong.  I've never used S&D but from discussions here it sounds like it does the same thing.  Am I just being paranoid?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: It is legal
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it is ok
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: paranoid is good and that does sound like a typcal time frame for that level of campaign with assistance
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: when in doubt, check with an imm
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: eventually the actual combat takes longer than getting to your target
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: As you described it, that's legal
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, thanks.  That makes sense.  I'm still trying to shed my old-school thoughts on scripting :)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: It doesn't mean that Search and Destroy type scripts are popular or even approved, but as it stands, and as you describe, you're within bounds.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: anti-scripting, and even some of the anti-botting logic / through process, is, IMHO, antiquated.  But the rules are pretty clear on it so just stick to those and DO ask questions as needed.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I'm trying to overcome my original anti-scripting bias.  When I started mudding (ages ago) I refused to use speedwalks and memorized paths to locations because I thought speedwalks were borderline.  I've come a long way :P
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: that's pretty hardcore
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ugh. Ever since I classchangd, Bast's spellup plugin works great for a bit, then stops recasting spells as they drop.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: stupid question but.. SNs don't change right?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: do you play on different pcs? might have the spellup reload
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SNs don't change
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: SNs don't change, and no, always the same laptop. Weird though is that another spell fell off, then all my spells recast.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Reloaded the plugin, closed MUSH and restarted, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any irregularities with text prompt (leading white space showing up sometimes, etc)?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try the bsp command that tries to automatically add all spells (bsp add all maybe?)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: does his plugin use gmcp tags?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses gmcp and tags (no such thing as gmcp tags ;-)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses gmcp to know your state (don't cast while in note mode, sleeping, etc.), and it uses spelltags to know when a spell goes up/down and why
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wondering if the gmcp bits are buggy sometimes.. (state detection)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did that too, Abe. Did bsp sremove all, bsp sadd all, bsp refresh, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can sleep and then stand to get it to notice anything like that missed
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: odd enough, sleeping and standing recast them again.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmmm, it probably thinks you're sleeping when you're not
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or in a different state than you really are
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It shouldn't, though. Quite interesting.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah.. bugs are the difference between what code should do and what it does do =)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I wonder if you have some other plugin or trig interfering
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think so. Nothing's changed as far as scripts go. :p
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: your scripts and plugins are different things :)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well if you're bored you could crack the thing open and see how it detects when *not* to cast a spell
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, if I'm bored enough, I'll just write my own again.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, they're different until they start touching the same shared resources
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first see if it was an anomaly...
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except OnPluginBroadcast isn't limited to one plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glennis Tech: how do i change fontsize please?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: game|configure|oupout then click on font botton
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: assuming mush
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glennis Tech: thankies!!!
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glennis Tech: now i can see what om typing
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know why SendNoEcho is sending with an echo?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't know if it's a new server thing.. or some setting that got toggled somehow?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sendnoecho is mushclient side?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean by echo
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaewan Tech: how would you make a global array in lua?  or is it possible
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: array = table
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: global has many meanings
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaewan Tech: like accessing it between a trigger and an alias
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to capture/use? if they're both in a plugin, then that's much easier, as they share a "scope"
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaewan Tech: just trying to learn, but i'd like to capture exp and do calculations like average xp per mob
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for exp, use GMCP data
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a quick notepad button in mushclient? Like hit a button ton the toolbar to get a persistant note? Almost liek ctrl-shift-h poping up the script file?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you mean mapper note (ie room specific one) ?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alt+4
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ctrl alt W
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: alt 4 is what I Was looking for
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: On the World Tool Bar, the icon is three right of the computer monitor icon(Output).
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: thank you thank you, I thought I saw it once but never could find it again
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: although those two don' lead to the same "notepad"
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sure they do, I just put something into the alt-4 one then hit the button and it kept the buffer
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: well on my version of mushclient they are not  the same notepad
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am using r1887
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: the alt 4 notepad saves in the world file, the other shortcut I believe is for independent notepads
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They are the same thing.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: not the same thing on this copy of r1887
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: is there a way to change laptop settings? so i dont have to hit fnkey to press a function key?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: surface pro?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: no a basicdell  inspiorn 15
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: 3000 seriesif thaat helps
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: isnt there an FNlock button? or if your fn button has a light, just push it once
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: no there isnotoggle lock
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: oh wait ... looks like it is on esc
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: <--- long time desktop usr :P thanks !
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: no worries :)
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xor Tech: does aardwolf support SSL/TLS encryption?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No it's telnet connection.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Does mushclient require an installer now?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: trying to find the latest version but I can't seem to find it on Fiendish's page, only the "installer"
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then choose branch you like and click "clone or download"
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, wasn't an anomaly. Has stopped recasting. Again.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: how do I make the group monitor bigger, i'm using a bigger screen had to increase the font
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JediSnail Anaristos Tech: they are resizable, you click on the grip (bottom right corner) and drag.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: nope will not let me
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JediSnail Anaristos Tech: no grip?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JediSnail Anaristos Tech: we are talking about the aardmush client?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: had to reset to default
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JediSnail Anaristos Tech: well, as long as it is unlocked you can drag the windows back to the size you want.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: my Mushclient mapper wants to take me through Xyl to get to Archipelago of Entropy. Anyone else have this problem?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you need an entropy portsl
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you have cexit for portal that is fastest way to entropy. put cexit lock in it and you are fine
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: portal: exit in area. not portal you carry
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ... ami missing an exit in XYL? I didn't know there was a way to the continent from the xyl portal.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there is portals in xyl that take you to continents
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: guess I never paid attention
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: entropy and xyl are just a few rooms from each other
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: enough to make cexit for em :)
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I have a portal for both
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so do I, but the portals aren't to the beginning of the area, and knowing the noportal speedwalks is handy for things like nomorgue CRs :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I think the mapper wants to use the Xyl portal, which lands near the handsome devil, then to find its way to the start of Xyl, then walk to Entropy
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no zhalut. you cant get into start of area from portal entrance of xyl
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: city has portals that lead to near entropy and such. mapper wants to use them as it's shorter than walking 
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to recall, then type "mapper where 29772"
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: are you referring to the vase?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: vase yup
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: anyone using wine + Sierra Mac OS? I just updated to Sierra and it's constantly crashing when I use the copy/paste function, any ideas? 
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: I need help. When i runto somewhere, i have an old mapper that keeps going through the "new touchstone" clan hall. anyway to reset that?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: walk through it to see where it makes the wrong turn, right-click the room with the bad exit, and delete the exit
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use "mapper where" to see the directions that the mapper would take to go somewhere, without actually moving
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: brilliant, you just soled my problem.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how does bast regen works?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: work*
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how does bast regen script work?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is a "certified" refurbished prudct less likely to be defective than a brand new one?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean refurbished. certified or not
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: anyone know where to edit the 10 minute sh lod to 15 min sh loud in winkewinkle ticktimer? 
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: copy double_init function and name it double_init15.. change double_timer to 29. then change trg_double trigger scriptname to that doubel_init15
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: trg_double3 trigger
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: thank you Nuanse :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: qget
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: err quick question, what is the double timer before i change it to 29 :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: bot!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: nvm figured it out
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: qget is shorter than quest request :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: what about q r
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: too many possibilites for typos :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: whats your usual overestimation rate when considering time consumption of a project?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mine is mostly 4x more than predicted, whatever it may be
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there anything I can put on my computer that says "hey stupid, I'm not plugged in.  if you forget to plug me back in I'm going to stop working." ?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: monitor? if it's black, you havent plugged it in
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: some monitors are white
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: eh, yeah, I have my brightness all the way up even on battery :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as far as I'm aware, every major OS has an indicator that shows whether the computer is plugged in
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the little icon on the bottom right?  I'm way too unobservant and forgetful to notice that :(
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make a habit of observation
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: while you're here, what's up with the mush installer? does it actually install anything (e.g. in registry) or is it just a faster way of unpacking all the required stuff?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm also certain that every major OS gives an alert when the battery is running low 
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: depending on system, there are millions of battery monitors out there
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I can't hear the alert when I'm across town :(  too much loud music when in college :(
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimpo Tech: There's addons you can get that make it more visible.  BatteryBar for example
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: see, that's what I was looking for, thank you :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan frowns at what The Jerk Fiendish did.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: heres an idea... plug it in when you arent using it
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the installer does 2 things. it adds a small registry entry of the location of your previous install (makes it easier to install on top next time), and then it unpacks but skips certain files if they already exist (like your state files and world file)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: are there plans for a new snapshot anytime soon?  I see the last one is a couple of months old.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, when Nick gives me an official build of 5.05
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: 5.05? I really should upgrade my 4.81
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need this change http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/showrelnote.php?version=5.05&productid=0
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Tell Nick to add zscript to it ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: zscript is stupid
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the major differences between mushclient and zmud/cmud have nothing to do with the language anyway
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I think lua is stupid.  Not because it's stupid, I just would prefer to do things in zscript.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you know zscript. lua should not be a problem :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: major hurdle is that mushclient just works differently
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any plans to make MUSH multi-threaded?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lua is stupid. it is also, however, fast and portable.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: just what kind of bot are you running to need multi threading?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: does fullscreen work nicely in the latest build?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Almila - a very sophisticated one
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I already have partial support for spawning threads through Lua
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: using the llthreads module
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: when it's finished, my bot will be able to level, quest, cp, fly an airplane, land a person on the moon, and make tea!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: It's how I do asynchronous networking
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I want the make tea only..
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: if I'm really on the ball I'll add a feature to make the computer get back in the kitchen and cook me some pie, but that's going to be next version I think.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: cook a pie? who needs that? fetch a beer.. now that would be an improvement
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: added to request list
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: When is 5.05 coming out?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: when Nick builds it
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I imagine he'd do it if I asked. I'm in the middle of some things though that I want to get done first
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so after running MUSH installer the client will still be portable via flash drive?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantik Tech: Yeah, its portable.  Just run the .exe from the folder.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Cool
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: okay, install was successful.  How do I add S&D?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: place the folder on external drive and run it from there at any comp you are on.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i went out of town without my laptop, bought a laptop to later return, and found my mapper was fresh =( made sense hahaha
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like I said, the installer is just a slightly smarter unpacker that adds a registry entry, but the registry entry is only used by the installer and not by mushclient so it's still portable
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: impy: if you had S&D before, and you used the installer to install to the same place as the old one, then S&D should still be there
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: shouldnt impuritan just copy his current mush directory to flash drive?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I haven't had it before
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I get the feeling that maybe impuritan is setting up for the first time
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you said "will it still be portable", sounded like a continuation of existing usage
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: continuation of previous expectation I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: no worries, abe :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in that case, when you run the installer, choose the flash drive...then install S&D and anything else you want according to the plugin's directions
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for S&D, get from nokfah
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's still the hunt bug in nokfah's version, but it'll work with current aardMUSH (unlike S&D from winkle)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i'm using winkle version just fine
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you'd have to be using a version of aard MUSHclient package that's around a year old
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: all fresh install.. either that or i'm just not noticing bug
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, you wouldn't be able to xset anything
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lyrik: winkle's version won't work if you ever upgrade your aardwolf package
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least that's what I'm told
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: personally I have no idea
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: having never used it
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: sounds like speculation to me
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll complain about no date column
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is Nokfah's version good or is it still kludgy?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not speculation
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nokfah's is winkle's, but with the fix to let it work at all
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: meh.. works fine for now i guess
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was never any more or less kludgy than winkle's
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think you didn't actually get winkle's, lyrik
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: does someone else's version say winkle? lol
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nokfah's will say winkle
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: I added extra kludge in my version
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder where wiklewinkle went
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he just fixed the brokenness, so he still calls it winkle...it's just that you'd download it from a different place than scriptalicious which was winkle's site
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: tech i got it from scriptalicious
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you ever need help adding kludge, hit me up. I'm an expert.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, i didn't mean it in a bad way.  I heard the old version had problems of some sort, is all.  
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: variables are much less kludge than appropriating a database field for a db that you don't control ;-)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the old version isn't nokfah's, that's winkle's
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so many people over the years make some script that people like and then they flame out and vanish
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the polarization of S&D contributed to him leaving...
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Bast got tired of updating. Winklewinkle vanished. Nocilis stopped working on blowtorch. Lunk kept changing his name so often noone could keep track of him...
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: So do I just copy these four files to... where, exactly?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need to get Danj to start writing scripts for MUSHclient. Some of my best early ideas came from him.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lunk also removed his archive every time he ragequit
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: lunk's was better too. I believe he took mine and fixed the hunt regex.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he actually did have a fully-fixed winkle iirc
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Danj's QP averaging thing for whois output is how I learned to write zmud scripts
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Nokfah.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf's runto command exists because of Danj.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well it exists because of me, but what I did existed because of Danj.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, your scrape of contsw command?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: automatically updating speedwalks by scraping the help file and then using his fuzzy runto command
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc danj had the only spelltags spellup script for zmud
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's modularization is also reminiscent of danj's setup
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so all I need to do at this point is explore (well, re-explore) the areas and then I can use S&D to find things?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: why don't you just copy the folder you're using now?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I never used mush other than very basic trials, and since I already have a well-developed script package in cmud, I just stuck with that.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: S&D is just an interface on top of the mapper. It will be able to find any rooms you've explored before S&D.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: want qps though so will use MUSH to cp and cmud for actual grinding
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whatever works
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: not ready just yet to re-implement 12+ years worth of scripts :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any plans for new versions to 'dock' windows?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: well, I added the S&D files but I don't believe it's working
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no plans for docking in the near future
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: yeah, I don't see it in my plugin list at all
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe one day, but it would require me basically rewriting miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, there it is.  now all I want to do is resize the window for it, but it seems it doesn't let me
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: wow, you just click the room name and there you go.  that's hilarious. I can't believe this is allowed.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Can only resize the window by editing the _GUI.xml file
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "I can't believe this is allowed." - that same sentiment basically chased winklewinkle away
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's also why I don't condone using S&D
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but nobody cares what I think
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: well, they harp on the botting rules ad absurdum, so it's just a bit of a surprise, is all.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think the reality is that campaigns and whatnot are a fun little exercise whether you click the buttons or not
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: they'll definitely be a lot more fun since I don't need to grind my fingers into powder to do them anymore
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and if Lasher really wanted to eliminate S&D he'd solicit ideas for a new kind of campaign where it wouldn't be effective
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I like sd.. I returned to game after so many years and I wasn't really into re-learning all the mobs again..
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: eh, you do them by masses later on if you like. its part of the game. if this would gone.. omg
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: you can use S&D with 3 commands
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: would be gone some day*
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I do think the screen is fairly cluttered though, but then I have a very basic cmud layout and don't have mapper on by default
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: cmud is great but some of the windowing stuff, and the mapper, can be a bit of a pain, so I kept most of the scripting at a text level
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: maybe it's time to buy a 70" 4k tv, set my computer resolution to stupid, and just use that as my monitor
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: too old to use small fonts?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I like fixedsys, I've tried literally everything else I can find, but fixedsys was the font I learned to mud with and I just can't give it up
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: if I could just edit that stats output window, that would be pretty cool.  I actually did a bit, but it was harder to do than I expected.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can hide most of the miniwindows or remove their plugins if you don't want them
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I actually like them, I just am used to being able to modify stuff easily, so this will be something new to learn :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: trying to reposition mapper window, can shrink it, but doesn't seem to want to move
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, there it is.  the place to click to move is near the top.  really nice work you've done fiendish, on behalf of everyone I thank you!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there a way to clear my command bar using esc key?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: So, to get into call of heroes using mapper, it looks like I need to add a cexit to this room?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: gunna be adding a lot of ceits
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: forgive the stupid questions, this is my first time actually *using* it
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if you have a virgin mush map. it'll be a lot of cexits..
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: yes, first if its lacking the knock to enter the area. or use the portal. then three more, friend/fun/foe
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: just don't forget double semi colons for open doors
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: 4-5 depending
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: and it's OK if I build up a mapper database and make it publicly available, yes?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I guess so..   I was offered a full map when I started but I kinda think it's fun and torture to do it yourself!!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I would just do two versions, a barebones basic functionality get-from-a-to-b without portals or other bells and whistles, and a more fleshed out version for those who do have portals and whatnot.  Idea being that if somebody's computer goes belly up they could just get that and not have to redo it all.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: could you walk me through making a cexit for this room?  I just don't want to do it wrong and have to clean up later.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: mapper cexit blablabala     works for one command
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well, when you run to call with mapper, does it automatically take you to mystlin ilvathorn?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: says cannot find path to barbarian front
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: mind you I know this area like the back of my hand :)  just never approached it like this before :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: so, youll first need to do a mapper cexit at the room with the cexit in aylor
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Ohhhhh I think... I'm having a thought.  Yeah, that's a thought!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: that's pretty slick, you just hit 'nx' if it's the wrong room :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: thank you for all the help guys!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: and girls!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: and trans! and apaches!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: So the code in this stats readout is pretty complex.  I don't need the options for the window, I would prefer to just write such a readout myself.  Can this be simplified, or how would I go about doing that?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: you could just edit the one included to suit your needs
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: as an example of one customisation I don't display my gold as 153654 in cmud, I display it as 0.1
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: anyone else experiencing connection issues?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I actually did edit it and it worked, but it's very complex compared to what I'm used to
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: off and on -- not sinc last log in though
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i just dropped 3 times
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: maybe I should just screenshot my cmud layout and put that up
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so, if the s&d can't find a room (because the area wasn't mapped fully), when I do map that area can I tell S&D to 'recheck' ?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: when you got a hallpass from abelinc to visit said room
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: once s&d finds it, it will know it next time
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I mean for the current quest or cp
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: oh if you enter the room before killing the mob, yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any way to make mapper tell me how many rooms in the area have been mapped?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: mapper unmapped here
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: well, that's not exactly right
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: sorry, misread the question. I blame alcohol.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: it's definatly not mapper purgezone =)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: WOW just found mapper zoom
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: mousewheel zooms as well, hover over the miniwin
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: not for me... just scrolls main window
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: lunk - https://github.com/maybeaardwolf   -  no url in finger.  MIA?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: getting an error - cexit failed, open east leads back here.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: except, it doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: delete the cexits there, and create a new one if you want
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do i do that?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Wait, open east does lead back there
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: exactly.. lol
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You just opened something
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: and did not move
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you open east, then need to move east.  
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: okay, thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: mapper delete cexits, I think
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: first day using mush mapper, bear with me, and thanks ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, it is
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if failed, don't need to delete
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah you have to double up the ;; in mush
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo is agreeing with that Negader person again...
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: okay, that worked.  thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I set a bunch of cexits when I first got it and had them all just opening doors
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: still deleting them..
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I made aliases to create open <dir>, move <dir>
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I can't get over how S&D makes it so much faster, this is crazy :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Like 'mxe' for mapper cexit open e;
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: .. e
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, welcome to the fine line of botting!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I made one called mpc <dir>  that way I can specify the direction and it makes the mapper cexit to that direction
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: That is a lot more efficient Tol
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Oh, that line is nothing new.  Shame my attorney (me) didn't defend the case successfully.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: just remember botting is always an option... just not a good one.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: rofl tol
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Botbait!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: in mushclient, is there a way to make F1 do a macro instead of trying to launch help?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i 2nd that question
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: in cmud, F1 is my quest request/complete button
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: how? sooo irritating when it launches help
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: File -> Global Preferences -> General -> F1,F6 are macros needs to be ticked.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JediSnail Anaristos Tech: you can override the button
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: got it, thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there a way to clear my command bar using esc? :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Next time, Daria, try practicing patience. The answer was coming; I just had to make sure I was directing it properly. :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: she's fine
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Set up a macro for it, sure. :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: I was seconding the question, not being impatient :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i had already seconded it =D
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: wow enabled smooth scrolling... so nice
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: ok reverting back to impuritan's questions about mapper.. are you able to create cexit from aylor to bring you to an area that requires entering portal from another area?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if i download an iso file, and want to have run it off a thumb drive as a bootable, do i need to do something 'special', or do i just move the iso file to the thumb drive?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: sure, lyrik, but it might not be the fastest route
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You wouldn't use a cexit for that
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: as in getting to prosper... trying to make that less painfull
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: usually, you want cexits to be as direct as possible. and portals to just land in the room where they land, otherwise you are creating paths that don't accurately reflect distances travelled
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can't just toss an ISO onto a filesystem and have it boot. You do need something to 'burn' the ISO onto the stick and make it bootable.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: getting into prosper would just be an alias
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use something like rufus to make the stick bootable
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: ya but then i couldnt just type "go 1" LOL
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i think it would be wiser to not create something like that to get to prosper and instead just get there the "hard way" until you do the prosper2 goal and get portal there
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok, googled, and found rufus.  thanks.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: like if you made a cexit to get to prosper from the beginning of lemdagor or whatever, if you tried to get to some of the deeper lemdagor rooms, it might use your arbitrary shortcut to prosper then try to backtrack to your lemdagor room, which is a far longer and more complicated walk that takes you past the witch
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: things just stop working like they mean to, because the game sees the cexit, regardless of distance travelled, as a one-room move
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: this is very true.. ok nevermind haha.. portals trump that mess
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: which portal lets him skip it? the share ownership?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: hard to find unowned shares these days since the newer portal from the goal is owned
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: we can take it to tell but i may have an extra for the right plice
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: FOR RENT: vertigo share :>
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I'll rent it
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: you can always get someone with a portal to open a nexus to you.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaewan Tech: so when if i want to use gmcp to collect exp on kill, what would the syntax be?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: you would need to write a function to handle it being broadcasted
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: best to look at some scripts that use GMCP already, my repop one is a real easy one to read
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I list cexits for room?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: mapper cexits here
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I have a cexit to Callhero 'fun' room, but S&D still failed to find the target, what went wrong?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: The room was Soldiers' Tents, can certain chars mess up the detection?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: room name was wrong?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: if i remember right.  there is an up room from the comtinent to the area
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the room was a duplicate name but mob was where it usually is
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechist Tech: Are a few points of instinct in Haste really effective for a mage?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: It doesn't hurt.  Haste instinct seems to be more effective than most because your haste attack occurs very early in the attack order, so you get lots of rolls on it.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechist Tech: OK thanks I'll leave them alone then. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: just remember botting is always an option... just not a good one.q r
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: is it possible to set up a sound trigger for doubles without having to write up and set it for all the double messages somehow?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it wasn't before.. but maybe they're gmcp now.. need to read the last announce note again I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a line in common?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah wait, sure there is, you know how the prompt has a specific thing for double?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: trigger off of that
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i dont use prompt
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: prompt is spam
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: he wants a sound trigger to fire at the start of double..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am looking in the gmcp stuff to see if it comes up
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it's only 4 triggers for all doubles though..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: almila there are ways to make that happen from aprompt trigger and only once.... just need to think about it
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: a bit more
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i have the sound triggers but thought it was a good time to clean up my mush.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: your normal prompt doesn't fire when you're idle.. so.. if you're afk you won't know it..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I always wished double time would be in tickinfo though..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: people use a single newline to trigger not going idle... you would know it then
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi all. any one that can assist me with this game on a anroid phone please?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: thanks again for helping me get mush up and running, teaching me how to use mapper, and S&D.  This is pretty damn cool.  Props to fiendish and whoever else has worked on this stuff, really good work and I hope you all keep it up.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: S&D is WinkleWinkle's
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so maybe today people know .. https://github.com/maybeaardwolf  what happened to Lunk?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: he renames a lot
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Renamed
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: hard to keep track of :p
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: any ideas?  
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asperger's Cheezburger shakes his head.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ahhh well that clued me into more searching .. apparently he quit and removed scripts. http://notes.gaardian.com/author/Bloood
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Hunh. I would've swore I recognized the name, but I only really started playing Sept/Oct of last year
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: did he have some scripts other people do not?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: I'm not sure.  I just like to collect I guess and stumbled into his name.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: fing tol masrok
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not many yet but building
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: really all i do is code if im around now, or chat
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: welcome to the club
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: you join my club, i have been chatting since before you were born :P
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: doubtful but ok ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: can someone help me get my stuff back
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: by that i mean aard birthdate lol
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol for this character maybe
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I remember v1
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: been around for a while :)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it still counts, i was playing circle muds when v1 was around, did not find out about aard until a good while in
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I got redirected to from Aardvark by Razor :P
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: #old
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: any one online here now please?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: What do you need?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: lol Abelinc nice try :) 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: why if i type : runto hedgehog if i was at recall as it is a autimatic command will it give me run errors and abort speedwalk? 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you might need a boat or to fly
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you need a bigger boat...
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i do have a boat and it is not everytime it doing this
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just ran that way and it doesn't look like you cross water.  Have you been entering cexits manually?  Maybe something bad got entered?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: what run errors do you get when the problem occurs?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're at recall, type "echocommands", then "runto hedgehog", then "echocommands", and see what it says for the commands entered
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: your runprefix is based on a portal. if you're trying to rt from a noportal room, the first step (entering the portal to recall) fails, and the rest of the speedwalk will take you nowhere
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: the runto command doesn't fail at the first error, but at the third, or something like that (for reasons unknown). that's why you get those messages and fail to reach your destination
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: Durel when at recall i just type runto area name. Then it will stop and say alas, you cannot go that way x 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: what does runprefix show you?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're at recall, runprefix is ignored
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: then it give me speedwalk aborted. 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: it say hold can.. 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do the "echocommands" thing, that'll tell what the MUD is seeing from you, to see if you have something client-side overriding your runto
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing to try is typing " runt hedgehog" (with the space, and with ignoring the o), which is likely to bypass any client-side aliases
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: if it was the runprefix then it would have been doing this all the time. It is happening on diffrent times to diffrent areas. Never the same area 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: uhmmm, did you happen to be affected by web?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: no as i only come back now after linkdead
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, web and sloth could both cause failures
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so what did the echocommands runto say?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: how do i do that on a phone please Abelinc?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what app you're using, and how it handles scrollback, since you'd need to scroll back up
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: as i typed the same now to get to hedgehog as earlier and took me here without any errors. Same command nothing diffrent
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: as i typed the same now to get to hedgehog as earlier and took me here without any errors. Same command nothing diffrent
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: sorry for sending again 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: could this maybe happen due to network related issues? 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: try 'rt hedge' from a different room (2s from recall for example)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: i've noticed if i'm on a laggy wifi, i'll get speedwalk errors, that may be all it is
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: connection issues would impact client-based speedwalks, but they shouldn't impact using the actual runto command
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: will try that now Nocens 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i did go 2s of recall type rt hedge. Started running and give me error on speedwalk again 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: then it's a runprefix error. check the first lines from the server after your command. there should be a problem there
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: it say you do not have that item. then run 2 rooms ans the error start
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: are you using the garbage can or the academy portal for runprefix? see that you have that in the inventory
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: using the garbage can. Going to take this runprefix off and see how it goes
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thank you all for your help :)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: that won't work. if at recall, rt will not use runprefix. if anywhere else, rt will fail if not using runprefix
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: do you have the garbage can in the inventory? that item is melt-drop
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: im holding it now still as i was using it 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: its in my inv now as i dual my weapon
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: make sure you put keep on it so wont accidently drop or sell it
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: your runprefix should be something like this: hold garbage;enter;dual weapon
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: check it, maybe there's some error there
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i have keep on mostly all the items i need to keep Mique :) lol kade the mistake once and learned a lesson :)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i cleared the runprefix Nocens. Will make a new one and see what happens then. But if i use the same way you tyoe it all it show is : hold garbage 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: ok i cant set a runpredix with that punct mark. throw all after that away. The reason for my runprefix not to work
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: If you're using the aardmush client replace each ; with ;;
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: you can. use two semicolons instead of one. like this: runperfix hold garbage;;enter;;dual weapon
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: that looked like four ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nocens p
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: im using a phone Grushnak :) 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Blowtorch? Then your escape character is a tilde, you just want to throw one before each ;
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: ~; instead of ;
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thank you :) will try that one 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: ah there it worked perfectly :) thank you for all the people that helped woth this one. 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: working all good now. Runto knossos while in hedgehog with no problems :
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I thought runto only works from recall
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: you can set a prefix that will be attached to the front of runto
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: yeah, right :)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: well apparently not Pleiades ha ha. Much easier to do cp's amd gquest now mmm 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I was referring to using the runto command while not at recall
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I'm not talking about mappers or S&D or something similar
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: It works :) 'help runprefix'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: seems slower than a direct mapper though
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it looks like you are still going to recall (or hotel) and starting a speedwalk from there
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Slower than mapper, yeah. Faster than recalling manually
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: yeah but nice when your on mobile
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: or when you have an empty mapper database. or no portals. or no`
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: for me that is playing on a phone and cant use mappers or plugins and all those i will say it is faster to go arround between 2 diffrent areas. Less typing and waisting time on hold and dual 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know of an easy way to get current quest timer from gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: From group.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: looks like you can if you're in a group..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just to make sure I'm reading this right.. comm.quest.status is just telling you what the gmcp output is for status changes related to a quest right?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not like things you can query to get quest timer
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I would need to have a group created to get the information from group, correct?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That would make sense. You can have a group of one, though.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah.. I know.. just wishing I didn't have to set up something to always be grouped to get the info
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh nice.. if it helps anyone... under config you can toggle "tickinfo" on
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: quest timer is in there...
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I was triggering off of tick to get quest info and gag it.. much easier to just toggle that on and gag it