T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'During a press event yesterday, White House spokesman Sean Spicer said that next up on President Trump's telecom agenda is to roll back the FCC's 2015 Open Internet net neutrality rules. ' T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'yeah, he's a dumbass.' T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elkyr: 'he said many other things too.. that was a rough one to watch, and it looked like the reporters got tired of his shit quickly.' T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'he's certainly set to take the long way to making 'murrica great again.' T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Almila: 'I like trump.. he's like a tribute to mankind!!' T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'Trump approves Brexit. Therefore, it must be good!' T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'telescopes are damaging the universe and shoud be banned' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-05/merkel-cabinet-backs-facebook-fines-to-stem-fake-news-in-germany' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elkyr: 'i'm not against this, but i think it sets a dangerous precedent for who determines if news is fake, and what fake legally is.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'I'm completely agains it - common sense is not something you regulate. But I think the only response should be to actually ban every .de IP address for a while (the problem would solve itself pretty fast, imho). then again, facebook declares they'll increase the number of supervisor, or whatever they're called.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'pineapple on pizza should be a felony offense. ' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'that's certainly one problem. one thing I'm not really clear on though, are they talking about posts by users?' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'yes they are' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'moderators, I believe.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'you know facebook is a joke when it has to start monitoring and censoring anything.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elkyr: 'common sense isnt regulated, but when fake news has the potential to endanger people, that is something that needs to be addressed.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'by who?' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elkyr: 'thats the question.. and how.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'I nominate me as the grand decider of all that is "fake" and "real"' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'not really tearlach. as a platform that allows users to post, it's inevitable that moderating will be needed.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'the question would be "by whom"' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'its a social media site, if you want news go elsewhere' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'yea, if you're a fan of censorship' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'Ixultar, that comment was totally fake.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'we know fbook and twitter are' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elkyr: 'its not just a social media site tear.. the fact that people are getting their news there, means that it becomes a news aggregate site too.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'it's not 'inevitable'' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'tearlach. the problem lies with that news IS disseminated on the internet, shared and discussed by people.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'i wouldnt really say what people post is actual news, unfortunately most people dont see that. haha. i see posts on a daily basis from fake aggregate websites that just pull random junk' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'im just debating a perfect platform of free speech. i see where youre coming from though' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'Liber, depends I suppose, on whether you wish to impose a standard.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'I don't. it's a network of friends. you don't like what one fuckin' redneck posts, ignore his ass!' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'and the state certainly shouldn't have anything to do with that' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'liber. eh, true. I don't think state regulation should be involved.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'regardless of the situation its basically just a data mining operation made even more powerful by sj res 34' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'I believe this is about protecting children or something. would need to do a bit of research on the stated motive.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'fairly certain the data mining is already in place. all they need to do is refine the keywords.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'the main motive behind every decision is money. line pockets and reduce the debt. who are we in debt with anyway? haha' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tearlach is agreeing with that Jopari person again... T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'I trust people who's motive is money a lot more than I trust those who's motive is political power.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'i also think you cant license liberty and requiring an fid to own a firearm is illegal. i guess im a bit old school' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'because they will lie and cheat and change stances depending on the people?' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'lets face it everyone is motivated by money to some extent...' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'i wish i had money' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'case in point, and there is nothing wrong with that.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'people need to eat.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'i burnt my hand in the oven the other day saving a roasted potato that i accidentally slid off the sheet' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada acks at Tearlach! T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'in this case I think if state legislation is involved I worry that the censorship may go overboard.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'per usual' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Jopari shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'the problem is each group thinks everything would be great if *their* leaders were in power and the state had broad latitude to... well do anything.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'it's certain they would. well, they can draw the line at some messages that would be crimes anyway. but fake news? damn!' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'There's not much "real news", and legislating against insufficiently real or acceptable news isn't an amazing solution.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'fake news should easily be counterable in my belief, the internet IS an information repository after all, a little research is all it takes.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'perhaps a better solution is education... you know, teach people how to be critical consumers of media, check multiple sources, etc. ' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'good one fetard' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tearlach winks suggestively. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'hasn't that been stated and continuously attempted to varying states of failure?' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'wouldn't work, people don't take the time if the news conforms with their confirmation bias' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Schooling seriously interferes with education.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tearlach is agreeing with that Rune of Ixultar person again... T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'tinada. ?' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'then even when the correct info is out there you get idiots like anti-vaxxers' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'meh. I know at the university level one of my early gen-eds focused quite a bit on sorting through the BS in the news, identifying biases etc. It was pretty basic, but quite important. ' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'there are 2 sides to the anti-vaxx debate though. the truth is, with the amount of shots your given as an infant, it can 100% damage your body. that being said, vaccines save lives' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'If you see "education" as the real thing, that is.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'The school system is not exactly set up to encourage independent thinking.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'tearlach. I don't think so, a lot of data suggests otherwise.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'then again, that was in the days before rampant intentional misinformation passing itself off as real news, and before stupidity like trigger warnings and such. ' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'nod, there are some very low levels of adverse reactions. But those levels are extraordinarily low.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'i know if a personal case. my sister babysat twins for a while, both perfectly healthy, after the battery of shots as infants one went completely blind. they got money from the national vaccine injury compensation program' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'There was a study a couple of years ago, showing how a disproportionate amount of sids cases happened within 2 weeks of a specific triple vaccination' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Sids is just postnatal abortion :p' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Japan has a different regime, with fewer vaccinations and many of them given at a slightly older age, based on that kind of findings.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'Impuritan. really? huh' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'when you introduce foreign bodies into a brand new system theres bound to be some kind of reaction.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'there are also risks of delaying vaccines as well... I'll let those who study the issues advise me.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Norway also has fewer vaccines than the US, and rather lower infant mortality.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'I won't debate this, too many screaming people and ad hominem attacks have I suffered for on this issue. I'll just stay on topic.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'ad hominem attacks on debate channel?' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'get outta here! T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'not here.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Liber laughs out loud. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'sort of like the pizzagte debate. sure, the owner of the place is creepy as shit and has a lot of photos of kids tied or taped up, thats not to say that he keeps kids underground in his pizza shop. that being said there is a large amount of missing children and numerous pedo investigations.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I haven't studied this in any particular detail, but the reasonable starting point to me, is that the US has too many vaccines too early, and I'd start looking at how much pharma makes from the additional vaccines.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'also, "protecting children" is too often used to justify the state completely wiping its ass with our rights and whatnot' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Jopari nods. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Fetard is agreeing with that Impuritan person again... T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'tinada near zilch.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Plenty of sids cases turn out to be murder though.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'the worst part about that impuritan is when cps and members of federal child trafficking enforcement are caught with porn' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'they actually tend to make little to no profit from vaccines.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada peers intently at Jopari. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'hard to put your trust in people these days' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'Yeah. We can't have marijuana because "think of the chldren", we can't have vaporizers because "think of the children", we can't have higher speed limits on our roads because "think of the children!" ' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'That seems unlikely.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'And who can blame them? Just google 'reddit regret having children' and you can understand exactly why a postnatal abortion is called for, at least in the depressed parent's mind.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'muh childrennn' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'I for one, could care less about the children. That's the parents' responsiblity. ' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'tearlach. that does make it somewhat problematic.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Fetard: Fuck the children' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Fetard is agreeing with that Impuritan person again... T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I like babies. Cook them up in a spicy vindaloo sauce and they're quite nice.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'podesta the molesta brothers. high ranking gvt officials. creepy.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'at least when it comes to being an excuse for restricting liberties. I don't hate kids, just the kneejerk reactions of people who have them and the government response to those people ' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Jopari sighs. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Impuritan is agreeing with that Fetard person again... T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'I wish they'd abolish child tax credits' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'i do like a good vindaloo' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'the will of the masses is considered by the loudest of their number.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'now i have to have some this week' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'whats another fun topic' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'TRUMP' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'eh.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'lol' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'i think they were right to cast scarjo as the lead in ghost in the shell' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'even though i have never seen it.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'that's NOT funny!' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'me neither. not sure I will until I get a hold of the manga and read through.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'scarjo scarjo scarjo' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'I haven't seen any movies in a long time.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'last i saw was lucy. meh' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'the concept was neat.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Failurette Noegel: 'I'm with you Jopari' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Failurette Noegel: 'haven't been to the movies since 2012' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'kodi all day son' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'kodi?' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'stream aggregator ' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'watch quite literally anything for free' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'well you have to pay for the internet/data' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Failurette Noegel goes ooOOooOOoo at Tearlach. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'most of the problem is that i rarely want to actually.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Failurette Noegel crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely to Jopari. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'haha. i watch a lot of horror/scifi, its a good time' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'i mostly read my time away, as I read a hell of a lot faster than I can watch a movie.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Failurette Noegel: 'have you watched the Expanse yet tearlach? ' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'uhh, so anyone have a topic to discuss?' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'almost. i watched half of 1 episode and got distracted. still on the list' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'hmmm' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Failurette Noegel: 'that's a show where the first episode is kind of meh but number 2 is way better' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'the epa is useless and those issues should be left to state health departments' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'background? I don't live there, never paid attention to them.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tearlach: 'the environmental protection agency. started with good intent but is now a bloated bureaucracy that doesnt answer to congress or the people' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'sorry, I can't discuss this, seems like something I'd need some bavkground on. need to log off soon anyway. night.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tearlach waves. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elkyr: 'so Steven Bannon was just pushed out of the National Security Council' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'liar! i read that an hour ago :P' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Elkyr: 'eh, im slow.' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'now we just need to push every other member of government out, and we can start to heal ' T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'https://games.slashdot.org/story/17/04/06/0343234/two-studies-suggesting-a-link-between-violent-video-games-real-life-behavior-have-been-retracted' T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'It seems I won't be disintegrating any real life rabbits, frogs and bumbelbees anytime soon...' T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Liber wipes his eyebrow in relief and says 'WHEW!' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'China court orders Samsung units to pay $11.6 million to Huawei over patent case. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-samsung-elec-huawei-tech-china-idUSKBN1780BP' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'Fuckin' hilarious, methinks.' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'hmm whats this channel for' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'roleplaying' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You've had quite enough of this nonsense! Mustering the wittiest reply you can think of, you shout, "NO U!11 Crimzon!!" T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Crimzon slaps Liber. T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Crimzon apologizes to Liber with a very sincere look on his face. T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'good argument. I'm proud of you! ;)' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'well i got some news' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'Your argument is wrong and your mom is lame. You lose.' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'and ninjas suck. silently, but they do.' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'as long as no one knows, it's all good' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'during 2000s the walmart companies hired cleaners through a company in chicago. I worked with one of those companies because my step dad was russian' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Impuritan: 'did you smuggle vodka into the country?' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'lol. I just saw the scene from the police academy (first part), with the hooker during the captain's speech. that was hilarious' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'he did also horse meat' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'liber: it gets even better in the last scene :-)' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'anyway he would take all the money he made here and send it to his wife overseas' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'being a citizen he was in a car crash and won 127,000' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'and he sent it to his wife' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'they have cells all over the country where 5 of them hook up and live in an apartment while sending money home' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'getting a green card is just a way to stay in the country' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'did i mention he spoke 10 languages and was a planes mechanic' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'they had friends such as german, russian mongels and many more helping them' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'okay fire!' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'what's to debate about that story? it seems he was a hardwoking, saving fella' :)' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'I just hope Russia wins the war.' T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'war on porn, maybe.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'so islam' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'ita ironic that catholicism is the modern worlds paragon of oeaceful religion and islam hasnt changed in 1500 years and inspires hate and violence' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'why does anybody give 2 shits about the middle east' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'The Middle East is the crossroads of the Old World' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'It's important to know what's going on there' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'sunni and shia are going to kill each other forever' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'it is built intobtheir religion' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'I kind of wonder whether Sunni IQ will plunge due to too much consanguinous marriage' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'i love it when retarded liberls say omg crsades omg inquisition as if it is at all relevant to a comparison of modern religions' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'No one suspects the spanish inquisition' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'yeah bringing up the Crusades is pretty stale' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'I'm so disillusioned with politics' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'it actually proves the point... once nation states evolved to be weatern and free, the authority figure of the pope let the religion to evolve to its roots of love and peace, not an ibstrument of the govt' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'nowaday, the pope can defibe what isbeight and wrong. meanwhile some local ass fuck cleric in iran can preach jihadiat idlam to gullible muslims who dont know any better and nobody can say different' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'its like, the objections of luther made so much sense in his time, but now the pope is better to prevent religions from getting hijacked, like when whute aupremacists claim to be christian' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'even if you ignore the old stuff like the crusades, spanish inquisition, salem witch trials, and kkk activities prior to and during the civil rights era in the US, there are still plenty of christian terrorists to point to in modern times' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Especially those pesky mormons, and jevohas witnesses waking Emm up every Sunday morning asking him to go to church! Terrorizing the hung over, horrible!' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'you have abortion clinic/doctor bombers/murderers, and the random crazy christian shooting up LGBT, muslim, or other "sinner" groups' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'then you have the various christian militias (mostly in Africa)' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'don't forget Timothy McVeigh' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'well there are christian militias in the US and elsewhere as well, but they tend to just stockpile massive amounts of weapons, not actually use them.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Think of all the babies terrified, and trying to claw themselves out of the whome for fear that some douchebag is going to stab them with a coat hanger from the vag.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Who are the real terrorists?' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and there we have Shelkin defending terrorists by blaming their victims.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'exactly the way some lunatic liberals defend islamic terrorists by pointing to all the terrible crap that Israel and the US has done to muslims over the years.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You just have no sympathy for all the babies living in fear of coat hanger death.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'you just have no concept of what abortion actually is.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You just have birth privilege. You should consider how negligent your opinion is.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'Abortion is typically eugenic' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'how is it eugenic if the person getting the abortion is the one deciding to get it ?' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: '"Eugenic" doesn't necessarily mean it's forced' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'its eugenic if it is encouraged by social institutions on the basis of race, religion, socio-economic status, etc.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Supposedly Tillerson axed the US funding to the UN abortion program; someone at work told me that Trump made a statement that the UN is trying to abort Africa and he won't fund it as long as he is President.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'I would not be surprised if abortion is typically good for a country's national average IQ' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'doubtful' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'because people with high iq who want to do family planning may get abortions' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'and poor uneducated people may just have kids' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'did Trump go religious nutter, or is Trump pandering to the religious nutters' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'poor uneducated people can't afford to get abortions usually' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'but all I was saying is that regardless of the morality of abortion, the vast majority in the US are medication induced (either non-surgical in the first 8 weeks, or the only surgery is a DNR after the pregnancy is terminated by medication in the first 12 weeks).' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'Yeah but AFAIK abortions are more common for poorer women who don't have their shit together' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'so it isn't baby's fearful of coathangers most of the time' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'fearful of poison?' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'also the coathanger abortions were what we had before abortion was legal' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'fearful of estrogen overdose basically' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'I agree, there needs to be at least some cerebral neural tissue before we can even start talking about "that's a person"' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'that's the most common mechanism' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'also fetuses won't know what's coming so they can't feel fear' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Education has nothing to do with IQ. There are literally millions of people who are probably smarter than all of us on this channel combined that were born into poverty. ' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'the only reason poorer women might have more abortions is because they do not have the same access to contraception in the first place' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'idk' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'disagree, nurture makes a big difference' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Everyone has access to contraception, it's called abstinence.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'that is an emperical claim bertilak and one that does not appear to be supportable' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'abstinence is not the only form of contraception' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'Nurture is important but people aren't blank slates' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the number of unintended pregnancies among poor and minority women is higher, but so is the abortion rate within the category of unintended pregnancies' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'yea but when you're starving and malnourished, typically your brain isn't going to develop all that much' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'to assume that abortions would raise IQ because stupid people get abortions means that you have to have people with higher IQ's having more babies, which doesn't equate because the people with higher IQ's might be using contraception more effectively, not getting pregnant in the first place' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: '4 in 10 unintend pregnancies end in abortion in general, but 6 in 10 unintended pregnancies result in abortion for poor or minority women' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and 7 in 10 for poor minority women.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'That's true but the Flynn effect is plateauing in developed countries because there's only so much that can be done to improve IQ with adequate food and getting lead out of the environment etc.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'regardless though the original subject was christian violence' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and regardless of what you think about the morality of abortion, blowing up planned parenthood clinics is still terrorism' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'yup' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'Absolutely' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'and there is support for the fact that poorer women get abortions due to lack of contraception access, and its the fact that contraceptive use can be shown empirically to reduce abortion rates' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'I don't doubt that' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'yes bertilak no one is claiming otherwise, but you claimed it was the ONLY reason, and that is demonstrably false.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'okay maybe not the only reason, I'll say instead the primary reason' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'nevertheless abortion rates among poor and minority women who get pregnant unintentionally are 50% higher (6 in 10 as opposed to 4 in 10).' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the unintended pregnancy rate is 40% in white women, and 69% in black women, and 54% in hispanic women so yes it would seem access to contraception is a huge factor' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'but it doesn't explain everything, not by a long shot.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'The scientific reason for fucking is to pro-create. People do it because evolution created a huge chemical high that rewards getting off, which leads to procreation. So how unintentional is it?' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'freakonomics had some study on the effect on abortion, i think it concluded it reduced crime' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'its unintentional in the same way that people who take heroin don't necessarily intend to overdose' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'except the crimes against humanity that are baby murder ...' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'that people who crave cookies don't necessarily intend to get fat' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Are you sure? I know a couple people who overdosed, and they really want to end it. I also knew some people in the Army that were on the food for freedom program once we went to war.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'anyway, if you want modern examples of christians doing crazy violent things (apart from the abortion and other 'moral warriors' in the US, look at christian militias in Africa, India, and the Middle East.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'sure there are people who do those things ,and there are people who have sex purely for the purpose of having children' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'of course none of them come anywhere close to the crusades, the inquisition, or the Klan of the civil rights era.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Damn those people are lame ... must be Protestant. ' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'How many people died in the crusades?' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'not nearly as many as died in WWI or WWII :)' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'well to be fair thats mostly because there weren't nearly as many people in the first place' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'estimates vary wildly, but 2 million or less is probably a safe ceiling and 500,000 or more is probably a safe floor' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'it would be more fair to compare the percentages of population that died' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'im not sure it would the world wars involved the entire world and the crusades only involved europe and the middle east' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'probably better to compare the statistical odds of dying due to x as a member of population y.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Well ... if christians killed 2 million people during the crusades one might say they are making up for it by defunding the UN abortion program when one considers that the Un helped fund the forced steralization of women in China since it's inception. According to the NY post the China steralized 20 million people in 1983 alone during their 1 child program.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'if you do that the populations most impacted would be European Jews in WWII, and Europeans during the black plague. ' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the 2 million includes the christian missionaries that died too' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So technically whatever religion the UN program directors, and Chinese government are, they killed way more people in 1 year than Christians did during the whole crusades' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I don't think that necessarily follows Shelkin, because you are trying to compare counterfactuals' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'is it?' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'if those abortions didn't happen how many of the children would have survived childhood? and how many additional children would have died as a result of even thinner resource distributions.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'it is definitely a different consideration than how many of the people killed in the crusades would have died prematurely (or killed other people) if they hadn't died. ' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'We'll never know, because the UN funded manditory steralizations. Maybe all those Chinese people who live in Communist Utopia are sad because they will never be able to raise a brood of children under their perfect every need is fullfilled communist dream.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'okay now you are just being silly, and I have research to do for my actual dissertation instead of for a silly debate on aard.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'That's what all capitalists say. Capitalist privilage!' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'If you weren't so busy focusing on your greedy desires of an education you would be able to focus on the needs of the many. You capitalist pigs are all the same.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and what type of pig are you' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Capitalist ;)' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Or troll ... depends on the channel ;)' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'unsure whether Emm is pro-overpopulation (and ecocide), or pro-abortion' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some christians are pro-abortion' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Jesus hates those people.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Jesus is a fiction' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You tell Jesus that.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Old Testament supports abortion' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'Isn't there an abortion method described in the OT?' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'It's called sacrificing your son to God ... but that's post birth, so is that abortion?' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'I'm glad I never did anything the voices told me to (serious)' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Old Testament supports the killing of some babies' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'God is going to punish you for not obeying. You had better get a goat, and a child, and stand by a bonfire waiting for guidance. ' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'Not sure if serious' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'I'm basically a paranoid schizophrenic, I've heard commands to ... do things' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'Fortunately I did not comply' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You sir need to medicate. Otherwise we're going to see shit in the news about how some dude who plays RPGS to pass the time was found in his backyard with a stolen goat, and the neighbor kid that everyone hates...' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'I take Seroquel, 400 mg' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin just googled that shit "Wow, that stuff is strong." T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'The atypical antipsychotics generally aim to be not as "heavy" as the older ones' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Metabolized through the liver, so basically you can't drink huh?' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'No' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'Seroquel really doesn't have anything to do with alcohol' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khwarizmi: 'You shouldn't mix benzos and alcohol, that's really bad' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'i used to hear "voices", and i proved the "voices" were wrong and or obsolete. The "voices" provide wrong information. ' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some of the aard playing-guides provide deficient or obsolete suggestions. ' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'i don't follow the "voices", and Xyliz does not follow the playing_guides.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and then i became an atheist, and the "voices" soon ceased. ' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'but if you are an atheist and yet hear "voices", you are likely yet associated with a deficient group. ' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'is.it true we.invaded syria from jordan' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if you are murdering yourself with "meds", you are yet programmed wrong.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if they are killing each other in the middle east, they are reducing their populations (and then there is more room for more sex in the middle east)' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'contraceptions and abortions are good (and a lot less bloody than warfare)' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'contraceptions and abortions are good - reduces the population' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'if reducing the population is your aim, I would think war would be a much more effective policy. Perhaps only topped by pandemics.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'i am currently only observing and gathering data' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'So you plan to actually implement some kind of population reduction plan at some point?' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You should just spam the shit out of Putin with demands that he accept the fact that he is a gay clown, or start bombing someone to prove otherwise.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'devades ago, heard that the iq range between 140 and 150 was psychologically difficult: smart enough to ask the queestions but not smart eough to answer them.' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'decades ago, heard that the iq range between 140 and 150 was psychologically difficult: smart enough to ask the (troubling) questions but not smart enough to obtain the answers' T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'so thinking about genocide is a sign of intelligence? But figuring out how to do it is a sign of genius? Hmm...' T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps an iq range covers: smart enough to hear the "voices", but not smart enough to realise the "voices" are wrong and need not be followed ' T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Crimzon: 'if you hear voices its different brain.chemistry ' T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps another iq range covers: smart enough to read playing_guides, but not smart enough to realise the playing_guides may be deficient and or obsolete' T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'hearing "voices" perhaps indicates the possibilitly of paranormal_sensitivity (disclaimer: the "paranormal" is likely fiction confabulation imagination and or non-existent)' T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"the truth is out there" not' T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some episodes of the X-Files were intellectually stimulating (but the ending seasons were nauseating)'