T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stunner Tech: does anyone use zmud that can help me with an issue? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i used it a long long time ago... zmud or cmud? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stunner Tech: zmud T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: someone upgraded sharptracker for last mushclient? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: hadars doesnt work anymore? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Hadar has it on his site i think, updated for opk and such T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://hadar.ninja/plugins/ T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: sharptracker is ok but I wish someone would really convert it.. it doesn't seem to be making use of gmcp T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I believe hadar is building new one T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it's only about 10k lines of code to update T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wismyr Tech: oh that's no probel T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I never done programming but I bet most of those lines are actually 1 line in gmcp T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: sharptracker uses no gmcp as far as i can tell T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that was the point :P it needs updating to use gmcp T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if only the info channel showed the time between my pups, I wouldn't use sharptracker at all T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is there a way to get mushclient to supper 256 colours or have i forgotten about a toggle server side? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: so, the last one updated is from hadar? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: never mind ... read the help file properly T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: almila, try this trigger for puptimer : https://pastebin.com/HJj1cS2U T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: thanks, ima try it out T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I regularly transfer between playing on a 1920x1080 screen to a 1366x768 screen(external monitor to laptop and vice-versa) is there any way I can store the position of the windows in mush and easily switch between them for my different monitors T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if you figure that one out I would be interested also! T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not really, but every time someone brings it up I remind myself to add multiple layouts T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hehe, I would work on that with you. I could finally get a friend to use Mush if we had that T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: would using different worlds be a possibilty. Or maybe have different state files for each layout? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: using different worlds would work, but they wouldn't share mapper databases because it's based on the world name T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: actually...it might be possible to have two different world files with different file names but the same world name T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could try that T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use same map file using a shortcut T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i made an alias that would change the various settings for each window T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Magna's idea would also work T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but other world stuff wouldn't be shared T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: bigger fonts, etc, like it T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume most of the other settings are set-once things T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias for mapper's great for alts, but not so much for the same character but different environment T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm thinking things like sharptracker, eqdb and statdb which hold lots of info particular to a character T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set your layout up in the one window, save it, open up your save file and get all the width, height, position numbers, then set an alias to set it T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so you just have to use the alias once whenever you're switching computers T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Redryn. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I dont mind setting up the different plugins because that is just typing, the problem with the layouts is it is tedious and impossible to get it exactly same again. I might do that then T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aye, that is the way some people are doing it, but most won't want to do all that set up T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: make fiendish write a function to save it ;) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: he isn't our slave.. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he just mentioned that possibility T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: of course he is T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: fiendish made himself a slave, although isnt the source code of the client on github? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so anyone could do the work and just submit it for inclusion T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In fact, Fiendish encourages it, I believe. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He probably won't include things like WInkle's S&D, but if someone wants to help develop, send him the plugins and he can incorporate them. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this wouldn't even be another plugin...an alias in the existing plugin and a second set of size/pos variables T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: The beauty of open source people, go do it, I will give a tp to the person who does the fastest T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: would probably need to redo how resetaard works, because it's a stupid little hack T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but without looking, it'd probably need slight mod in almost all of the other plugins T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that they know the extra size/pos T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and yes it's a stupid little hack in all of the plugins T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: reset aard doesn't work for all the miniwindows... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it only works for ones that use fiendish's system T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: resetaard only has an alias in my plugins T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd love to have resetaard get proportional numbers from the main window size though T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or from the screen size T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (or whichever is smaller) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3rd party plugins would need to include resetaard functionality (ww does with xset reset gui) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: xset reset gui is only ever used because people literally drag it off the edge of the screen because it doesn't prevent that T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: resetaard should work with my plugins, btw ;-) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: They will not work with mine T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: It not they T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should change that T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the best solution might be to have miniwindow positions managed on a registration-based system like the z ordering is done T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I should but I am really lazy right now with life things, maybe after I secure a job and finish school T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a plugin registers its intent to be managed, and then another plugin does the managing T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but maybe that's too complicated T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably the best solution, but that's a whole bigger thing to write than just a set of x/y ;-) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Magna, sounds like a project for you T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm leaving in a few to go work outside all day T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't have time to look at making a second set of remembered x,y,width,height until next weekend T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: z ordering is only done that way because WindowSetZOrder didn't always exist and Z was originally determined lexicographically T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tol: poke me on Friday if nobody else has done it by then :-) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: will do T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: If you guys can do this I will be very grateful, luckily I wont need to switch screens for two weeks so I will be fine till then T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is anyone here using r1900 on a Windows pc? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need to ask you to do something that may freeze mushclient T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so far I only know that it works in Linux+Wine T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I use Windows PC, r1900 for until tomorrow, then I'm rolling 1870 T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's fine T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as long as it's r1900 right now T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Almost positive I do. Whatcha need? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you shrink your mapper window down to as small as it can go, does it make mushclient lock up for you? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Can confirm, you broke my client Fiendish T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: thank you T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: good to know T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: stop breaking things! T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder if one of the pre release build settings is unsafe T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: Does your client refresh when you press alt and f4? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: r1900 is kinda special. it's the first time I've released a pre- version to people T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: And I managed to go for it without backup T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in my defense, I can't control when Nick makes official builds of MUSHclient.exe and the pre- version fixes a bug that I needed fixed T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also it would be nice to get the pre- versions to be safe T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because then the whole build system could be kept up to date instead of relying on a version of visual studio from the 90s T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just know that your pain is helping to make mushclient better T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, definitely locks up on Windows PC. Quite interesting. No idea why anyone would want to shrink it that small, though. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm all for updates, and testing, but shit broke on week where everyday in work was high stress level :> T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I actually discovered it while trying to figure out why suddenly the black miniwindows glitch is happening _all_ _the_ _time_ T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Saying things broke and not describing WHAT broke isn't conducive to getting them fixed. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I told you plugins are not loaded, and all I get is document is not saved T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: There's literally no other errors or ways for feedback since mushclient itself is alrady closed T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably also a pre- problem. definitely not a plugin problem. I'll poke Nick about it T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though, Khannon, consider the possibility that there is some operating system problem T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Plugins are not loaded? Have you manually loaded them afterwards? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if it only happened to me, but someone mentioned he thought he was only one, but then we were two T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if I had a nickel for every time two people had operating system problems... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly at The Jerk Fiendish. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Windows 10 Pro. No issues here. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yes Arcidayne I had to load majority plugins including Fiendish package plugins now multiple times, it takes time my folders for plugins were mess, not built to be reloaded multiple times for out of blue fail T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think some of it boils down to plugins themselves. Some people write plugins that have shoddy code in it. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It was core plugins such as layout on mush, some of fiendish plugins resintall if they fail to load T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Have you checked the Aardwolf.mcl file to see if they're properly loaded there? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think this is a plugin issue. it sounds like something is blocking the world file from actually getting saved T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Location of installation file, maybe. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Installing it to Programs file will screw things up. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it's on desktop, been forever T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note Windows 10 has been trying to block installation of MUSH, too. Have to view details and click 'Run anyway' to install. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But that's an OS situation. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon: Have you tried running as administrator? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Mush? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (Right-click, Run as administrator) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I always run it as admin T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: shouldn't have to, I think T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Being logged into an admin account is not the same as running it as admin. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shouldn't have to, but if it loads the plugin files, then it could be key in locating the problem. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but yes I know about the windows 10 blocking installation issue. microsoft and apple both are obnoxious about making developers pay for certificates T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't use win10 btw T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I hate it T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Win7 for life T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: vista 5eva T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: win 7 ultimate :) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Winblows suckz period :P T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: don't want my pc look like iphone T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: win8 *run away* T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh man. if I could run windows mobile on my laptop I, wait no. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, let's not turn into fanboys supporting your favorite system. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: I've been using linux for years... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Saying "Windows sucks!" or "Linux sucks!" just lowers your intelligence. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good for you, Stile. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stile snickers softly. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: all os's have their advantages and disadvantaages T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Grissom. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Saying something lowers your intelligence lowers your intelligence too you know :P T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hardly. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: saying you have intelligence lowers your intelligence T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Installing Chocolatey in Windows pretty much solves the only major advantage that a linux system has going for it T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stile is agreeing with that Grissom person again... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: tiering also reduces your intelligence I think T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: chocolatey is quite interesting. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Chocolatey? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Never heard of that... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, so let's get back to the topic on hand? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're on Linux, so it doesn't pertain to you. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: when Khannon closes mushclient, no "Do you want to save?" alert pops up. And then when he goes to reboot his computer he gets a mushclient popup error saying it couldn't save T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: My wife still has winblows on her comp... I did the update to windows 10 on it... It's not *too* terrible imo :P T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Mine still gives an error when I save and exit with the new version... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, I actually get a crash on exit with r1900 because of something in the pre- build, but it's on exit so I figured it's no big deal T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I haven't had issues myself. I think the only one I've had so far is that some state files are failing to save now and popped up with an error. I had to disable it because it would happen sporadically, and couldn't pinpoint the reason. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (debian) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Odd fact: Disabling the plugin didn't stop the attempting saving of state files. Had to actually remove it. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: someone else mentioned that disabling a plugin didn't seem to unload its lua vm T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it might just stop aliases and triggers T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is not what I would have expected T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That may be it. Mine was waiting on plugin broadcasts and checking if I have the area saved to a table, and updating the table and serializing it if I didn't. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's mentioned in the memory leak thread on the mushclient forum T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Is that memory leak local to one OS? I have 60 plugins installed, and I'm running at 46M. Highest I've seen it is 70M T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But the highest was with a full buffer. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you use bast's miniwindow spellup? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, it is installed. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh. might chime in on the thread then. I wonder what the difference is T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, maybe not the miniwindow, hmm. I do have the spellup plugin, though, I'll have to check for the window. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh yeah, didn't have the window itself. And I remember why: when I installed it before, came up with an error. Knew I didn't need it, so I removed it. Just removed it now, and got hit with a page of error from the plugin. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: color error? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I know the eq miniwindow plugin assumes the existence of a color variable that I used to use, so that will be broken in r1900 T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lua errors about not being able to serialize nil. On install, it was attempting to compare number with nil. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: possibly the same problem T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Maybe. Was in regards to addtab. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: People should stop assuming that you're going to keep using the same format across all builds and learn to script it themselves. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ehhh T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they should just stick to the documented bits T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or at least let me know T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my fault for not making the variable private T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I tend to shy away from getting information from other plugins. Makes it easier to identify what the problem is if something breaks. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish: that error is fixed in my latest build T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ooh T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: In my dev version I'd put the color table back in under the old name T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I guess you beat me to it T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because what you did was really not a problem, I just didn't realize it when I changed the color file around T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, i would have fixed it earlier, but I haven't played regularly in over a year T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: oh did you find the mem leak? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not playing regularly hurts my testing process too. I barely have any plugins loaded T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tol: probably not T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: arcidayne said he doesn't have a leak T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aww :( I wanted to switch back to basts spellup program instead of winkles T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least not with spellup, but he doesn't have the miniwin loaded T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is it in the miniwindow or the spellup itself? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not sure, didn't know they could be loaded seperatly T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think you can unload or just not load the miniwindow T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway glad to see you still kicking around, bast T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the spellup miniwindow is a complicated mess, it was a showcase of my miniwindow base class. So yes, it might have a leak, but I haven't seen it. You don't need the miniwindow for it to work. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: that flat theme in the mushclient pr's looks really nice T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Grissom: I'll get to it, I promise. I just have to completely rewrite the color file yet again, because I'd fixed an ansi change bug with another overhaul but then lost all of the code for the fixes T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is annoying as hell T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish: ouch, I hate when that happens. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Bast, I really like how the results of your help file has more than one color per line :) first time I've seen capability to do that considering colournotes' limitation T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Zhalut: colourtell? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Just mentioning that I like it, and would switch if available but I am fine with the current version, not trying to seem demanding T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i think I tried colourtell but sometimes the results ended up on separate lines T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, themes for miniwindows is an idea I had back when I first started the whole thing years ago, but then I scrapped it "temporarily" T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it would be nice if miniwindows could 'dock', rather than fidgeting around to get them to align perfectly :p T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: It woulda looked more snazzy than E17 T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's non-trivial T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea i know T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no window manager T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also, I guarantee you there would be some dickhead on aard who would say "Aww, but I really want this one miniwindow to be 2 pixels more away from that one than all the other ones!" T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: do you think it would be possible to implement? not by you necessarily but if someone could make a pr for that would it get in T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Grissom: snapping? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: er, docking? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd accept it if done the right way. Whoever decides to take that on should talk to me about implementation concerns first T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yeah something like that, optional snapping of course so the dickhead could have it both ways T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I like 3 pixels T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I think that would require some heavy work, and I'm not sure it's worth it. Miniwindows in mushclient are a kludge, and were not designed to be true windows. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Good morning, just limbering up the dickheadednish T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I want to start writing plugins, I have an idea for a simple one that would have people who play at work T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I love that word. It is a kludge on the English language T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I found why mushclient hangs if you shrink the mapper window. turns out it's not a new bug. hah T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess it's not the most likely thing for a person to do T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: how do you use the mapper to map nomap rooms? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: I'd like to know as well T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: HAHAHAHAHA T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you make cexit that runs past them :P T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and then ignore T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's like you don't know what "nomap" means or something T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: crap... agro mobs gonna make that difficult T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I promise the "no" is important there T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: yeah, yeah... haha, area author outsmarts me T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there are really low amount of areas that you cant get through nomap rooms without attacks T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: we need to break it down to it's component words: "Nom" and "ap" -which are sadly unintelligible and so we cannot know what nomap means T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's a really tasty appetizer obviouslyu. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: nom = eat T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: meh, yet another google app T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think the only place where nomap really hurts players is in their own clan halls, but that's a choice they make when flagging their hall rooms T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: that's it! omg T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to [Outlaw] Mendaloth. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: ap = appetizer T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: checks out T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: ap = armor piercing or ap = action points T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it would be fun to map gauntlet maze.. and repeat after every repop :P T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think you don't know what fun means T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: spacing out and not thinking about what you're doing isn't fun T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just mindless T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: relaxing, but boring T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and here we see a programmer in a state of mental breakdown, dont spook him or he put commit a bug. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: BOO! T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i think by "fun" he meant "skip dealing with gauntlet" T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: implying that gauntlet isn't fun T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: to be honest, one thing that could enhance mush experience is changing gmcp health bar exp to show noexp when it's on in TNL T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: submit a patch T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse chuckles politely. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: For your motorcycle jacket? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll gladly accept that feature T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: maybe just turn the bar to a configurable color(defualt red) if noexp is on T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't care how you do it T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Does a 10inch tablet drain battery faster compared to a 7inch, when reading e-book at 50% brighness with network signal disabled ? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but the battery is probably larger T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle gives The Jerk Fiendish a nod, saying, "OK". T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: what's with the start room of areas moving after setting them? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: HAHAHAHAHA START ROOM HAHAHAHAHAHA T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: areas don't have start rooms T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: in this plugin they do T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: xset mark? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: yeah T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: they shouldn't move once set... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: happens all the time T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Never happened to me. :D T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anymouse Tech: are you saving? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: every time I quit T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: never happens to me, but then I don't use any plugins that pretend like areas have start rooms T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with The Jerk Fiendish about their shared secret. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: fiendish it's just a room you set as "when I run to this area take me to this room instead of the room that rt would normally run to" T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He's not dumb. :p T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I know T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: still not a start room T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Area entrance, sure. Endpoint for runto, sure. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But not start room. :P T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one possible area entrance T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: if the thing calls it a start room and you understand what I mean, who gives a shit what exact words I use T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: start room is not the right phrase, perhaps T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I care because of the history of how that plugin was developed actually assuming that the first room mapped in the area is somehow meaningful T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: in a lot of areas, it kind of is T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not really. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: so just to be sure, in case I was glossing over something important, I tested just now -14961 set as starting room for citadel T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: a lot of time, there's a sign, or even the mob that introducets the goal or AQ T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: start room T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: sorry I forgot the gerund T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: also thanks for the help T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I know my question was pretty confusing T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: for me it is 14997 T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: ont: I set it to that room. point being it's a start room, and my question about why it shifts remains not only unanswered but un-addressed T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: personally, i think it would be more usefull if that plugin recognized when you reached the area, however, you enter it, and think "okay, we're done" T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i answered it T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it shouldn't happen T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: are you talking about S&D? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ronad: run doesn't work that way. you'd have to use walk instead of run. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: indeed T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or do your own pathfinding T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because the mapper uses run, mostly on purpose T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you can have a plugin that you declare a mapper note for the start of the area, then you just search for that mapper note within the list of that area. Then your mapper will run to that room as the 'start' T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it's not the start T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just a room T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like zaphod beeblebrox T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Fiendish, Why is mapper not accepting short paths between areas yet? winkle did it. why cant you? we could get rid of winkle by just implementing winkles xrt between areas. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I personally like calling the things like LOOK AT MEE I AM THE START OF THE AREA BUT YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO ACTUALLY WAIT THE EXTRA SECOND TO GET HERE USING RUNTO T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish giggles. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: weird to say that T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: runto is way lazier T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just takes a third of a second longer T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't have to configure anything for runto to work T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nuanse: I don't want to? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: runto just doesnt work in wrong areas. xrt works T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wrong areas? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I dont want to is not enough. :P T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it kinda is T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Why not just alias it? I alias the starting rooms of all the areas so I can shorten the runtos with portals using mapper goto T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: If you want that kind of functionality code it yourself T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I suppose we could assume it is a mapper, not a gotoer T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no reason for me to add specific speedwalk aliases for you, because you can already do it yourself without programming T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just saying that lasher hates ww, etc, why not just do the xrt and allow running from area to area yourself? fxt : Fiendish runto from area to area T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Guessing Xrt is just a table of room names with room name ID's that it looks up and plugs into mapper goto T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that doing the thing that winklewinkle did is not the best way for me to stay on good terms with lasher T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus laughs out loud. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: does Lasher really hate S&D that much T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tol giggles. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: xrt took what was missing from aardmush and made it requirement. why cant you run between areas with just mapper? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I already think that mapper goto from outside of an area was probably a mistake T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: also, xrt uses the standard mapper file, look at the code guys T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: xrt doesnt do anything that mapper couldnt. it just makes it shorter T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it's just an alias for rt, basically T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Xrt is just a small library containing a room number for each area T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only reason I don't remove cross-area pathfinding from the mapper entirely is that basically it would just stop people from updating T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: the main thing it does is pick your portal instead of running from recall, if appropriate for shorter pathing T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, It's just enhacement for thing that is already there but not coded T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: That and someone would just code it, anyrate T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: path finding is the key. how could ww do it if fiendish didnt even consider it? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: probably the best way, then to use the "start room" would be to set it at the portal destination T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: at least for areas with a single portal T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: For the cases where the area has actualy got a portal, yes, but lately, portals are being phased out on new areas T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's not portal or anything. it's pathfinding. it's missing and it's very reason why people go to ww T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Why does Lasher not like things that make game easier, more enjoyable to some, not like xrt makes you cheat, look at WoW, imagine playing that game without addons, the game is for last 10 years developed with addons taken account T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: One could argue, less portals = more gain for those who use inter-area speedwalks...but that's a topiic for another day T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: It's a slippery slope to full automation. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ww pathfinding doesnt make you cheat, it makes you run from a to b fast. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: and because he went through the trouble of adding runto T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nuanse: I don't think we need to pretend that people use S&D because of xrt and not to easybot campaigns. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I would definetly be less interested to do what I do in aard, if not as whole, if I had to run between areas ~50 rooms everytime, while exploring things first time, it's fun experience, not when your doing it for thousands afgter that T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: people take sd because it allows also them to run from area to area without recalling and then running T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nuanse: bullshit T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that should have been there from beginning since someone else did it on files fiendish did. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people use S&D because they want 1-click campaigns T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no, even if Fiendish iplemented that xrt people would still use ww to semi-bot T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i'll be honest - i use S&D to make my campaign levelling more efficient T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no fiendish, people use it just to run from a to b T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i use S&D for easy questing. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it's not botting by the strictest definition, but only because i have to type kill T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nuanse: you're wrong because the mapper already does that. you know it, which means you're lying right now. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: StarsOscar is agreeing with that The Jerk Fiendish person again... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I use sd because I memorized about 90% of rooms 10 years ago, gave a break and now I don't want to rememorize rooms anymore.. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: when you implement use for that in your own.. ww goes way lower in peoples minds T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: from a to b....from a(manor/clanhall) to b(The room that cp mob is in) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper does it sure, ww does it easier. I dont want to check area, run all their rooms and find where to go. WW does it with just with 2 letters T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: qw mob. that does it all. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "I don't want to [think about what I'm doing]". "WW [makes decisions for me]" T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Where X, mapper find Y, mapper next, scan X,mapper next....is it that hard? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you have map, you build database, and everything is there already, you just do not want that to happen, so ww did it for you T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: can we stop this please. I think by now it is very clear Fiendish will never do that to his mapper T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: that's the slippery slope of over automation T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Easy enoug to automate as is, wthout even needing SnD T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: get rid of ww? make command to allow you to run between areas.. like "runto bliss" and your mapper doesnt do it.. ww build his script and build script that does it IN YOUR plugin T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not interested in this conversation. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol, what about NO did you not understand? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Also I'm #subbing Nuanse to Nuanse (doesn't listen) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: We have where, we have mapper find/mapper area, we have mapper goto,mapper next....and in extremes, we have mob q here to decrypt mob scrambles, what more do you need for full automation? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ... so.... how about them kiwi eggs.... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: so can someone make me an xBee connected IR blaster? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: you guys are smart T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: now for a more reasinable requrest: Is there a way to add "weight" to custom exits/portals? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's xbee? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i dont have a soldering iron anymore T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I've used S&D since t0r2, I'm not at this point in game, because S&D played game for me, it made tedious chore easier, but I'm confident I have very wide area expertise for pre-SH, I just see it as plugin, addon in other games where shit that gets boring very fast is automated and I can enjoy game past that T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: internet of things type protocol T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: StarsOscar: why T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: he wants to know if he's gaining weight or portals getting heavier!! T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe warriors getting a new portalpunch skill! T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus laughs out loud. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i miss spunch T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: fiendish, sometimes a portal has lag (beacon of homecoming) so setting it a weight of, say, 24, woudl mean if there's a path to the beacon less than 24 steps long that should be preferred T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: (not asking for the feature, just explaniing his request) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tpspend setweight amulet double T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: standing in a room with notmal exit to recall mapper prefers the take portal bag, hold portal, enter rem portal, put portal bag combo T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus laughs out loud. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you want to go around the mobscramble? how hard is it to implement levenshtein distance algorithm? just saying that between areas running should be in the aardmush T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Guess its for a case of, even though path A is shorter, we want to use Path B instead because its lessa aggros/bypasses a locked door/bypasses some other 'roadblock' T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: i think i just put a higher level on my portal to avoid this for a couple of areas T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I swear people don't listen to themselves sometimes... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: mapper kept taking me pas the school of horror guard at level 70 :) T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: also whar Gladacus daid, but with less importance T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You're seriously asking if there's a way to shave a tenth of a second from your run? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I did a mapper cexit mistform past the SOH guard, I wait the 2 sec lag for mist and off i go, else I fight him for a minute lol T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: because in gquest, 10th of a second matters. .. and here I can say, I do not participate :p T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how long does it take to get portal bag hold enter? Did you time it? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: no it doesnt T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: in maybe 1% of gquests it's close T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: the rest, it's not T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: if its so close that you lose by 1 pulse, chalk it up to learning and improve your character T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: wayyyyy more beneficial than optimizing at the level you're talking about T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: seriously, be glad the mapper doesn't always take you through recall T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: thank xrt that you had to make it so :P T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Odorless Nuanse (doesn't listen) Tech: thank xrt that you had to make it so :P T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse smirks. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: so, I need a bot to outguess the opponent's bot.. who can make it? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just saying, as long as people (even me) think that xrt is better than what you build. there is a problem. Just make it happen and we see decrease of users that use ww's plugins. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now excuse me...I have to make a test plugin to try to replicate the black miniwindow problem. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: every time I see (doesn't listen) pop up on my screen I'm just not going to read what comes after T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's like really bright red, so it jumps out at me T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: How do I look on your screen? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just keep lying yourself. we know you read em anyways T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you look like Gladacus T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus goes 'Awwwww!' at The Jerk Fiendish. How precious! T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol for this whole covo T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tol: I resurrected the black miniwindow thread on the mushclient forum T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, I will look for it T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: found it, want me to chime in also? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: could do T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sometimes nick forgets about problems that only affect one person T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, sent T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: is possible to add spellup from determined class only to ww spellup? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: is possible to add spellup from determined class only to ww spellup, for example timeshifting for navi? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not that I have noticed Mohan T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: When was updown added for mapper, and how did I miss it was added o_o T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol what do you mean? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poorplanning Tech: i don't remember the mapper in mush having trouble with up and down T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Have I never noticed there was function to show up and down in mapper, huh T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poorplanning Tech: of course, i also can't remember how to get these id numbers to stop displaying in my inventory, either... T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: that's inventory_serial plugin T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poorplanning Tech: thank you T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Np T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: global info isn't a channel, right? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: has anyone ever noticed that if you type your password in at login, you can add anything to the end of it and it still lets you log in? T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yes. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: not me T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: yes, only the first 8 characters are checked T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I only noticed this when I realize I was technically typing the wrong password for years T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and says so in help password. T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique laughs T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: assume it is a limition in linux or whatever hashing function they are using... T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: goddamit again majority of plugins didn't load on startup T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: i'm throwing this r1900 right out the window T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Just to confirm, there's no way to get invdata from a room container (ex: manor container) right? T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: correct! T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: No, Daresia found some pastepin (or similar) link with pretty much all goals in Aardwolf and AQ's, some were missing, he posted it on old forums, so just need the link to that pastepin T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh boy T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: off T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brothan Tech: anyone here available to help me with a Mushclient related issue? T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just ask the question. T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping. T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brothan Tech: I bounce between a chromebook and my full PC. One has a resolution of 1366x768 and 1920x1080, so I have to readjust the windows for communication and navigation and all that each time I switch around, is there a way to create 2 different window preference profiles? T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not without having two separate instances of MUSH. I think Fiendish is trying to figure out how to position windows relative to resolution, though. :\ T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Do you carry it on a USB? T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no, but on your chromebook just use chrome remote desktop and it will make it a little simpler. I do it all the time T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I suppose the easier way would be to alternate between state files. T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brothan Tech: I'm remoting into my main PC now, I don't mind keeping two instances of MUSH running I keep my PC on constantly anyway T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm thinking, a plugin where you could set a variable, then when you start playing, you set that variable then a preset profile that you configured will move the windows. Sounds doable, but what do I know T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brothan Tech: Thanks all for the input, i'll keep an eye on fiendish's github T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Bamboo: I accept reasonable pull requests T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm stuck trying to track down an old bug inside mushclient itself at the moment T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I have a pull request T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I requested that, wife said do it yourself T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: oops T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: in WW spellup, ho can I add a new spellup? T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: any good 2 in 1 recommendations T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: money is ot really an issue since the biz will pay for it T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: money ain't a thang T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: jermaine dupri 2020 T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: anyone knows why bast spellup always don't complete the full spellup? i always have 10-20 of them pending and have to do manual spellup T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Are there weird bytes in the telopts help file at option 6 and 7? T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: bytes have feelings too.. don't call them weird.. better to say: special T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ascun ( I'm sorry poor special bytes T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Should they be escorted somewhere? :) T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: probably noone online who has an idea about those.. T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I'd think fiendish would know the answer.. so, maybe write him a note if you want T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Sure, will do, thanks T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: is there any way to sub a string of characters with another mudside? T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: or like an object/character name? T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: you can be an imm and restring them!! T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: yeah but I was thinking of some*one :P T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: rename!! T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I doubt they'll rename to what I have in mind T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: i can do in client, no bigdeal T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: can you make mappe rnotes or something to not use a particular route / exit? T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can level lock that exit T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it won't be taken T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: you can add a level lock, with a level you will never reach T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ah that works T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: good deal T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: quick mapper question, on the clickable portion of the map, is there a way to make it go up or down or do you actually have to type in up or down for those exits? T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: can someone help me with some stuff T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i'm playing from the computer lab and can't get aard-mud to download T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ports are blocked T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: maybe it's meant to be that way? T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You know, like butt plugs T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: well i guess i will play off the game's site T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, for crimzon's issue, not being able to download the aardmush wouldn't be blocked ports since it's just the https port (or http if downloading from aardwolf's site rather than Fiendish's)... T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well maybe downloading is not allowed at all in the school's network? Or at least where he's connected T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: hmm.. https://github.com/fiendish T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: anyone knows for bast spellup, why there are always around 15-30 buff placed on Pending? T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because you have a spellup that isn't being cast. T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And that spellup should be removed or disabled. T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: yeah but it's supposed to auto, i've tried to refresh and fast, but still encountering the same problem T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's supposed to, I know, but for whatever reason it doesn't. T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was having that issue with mental balance. T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yours may be something like sanctuary flag. T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: hmmmmmm T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: so i have to test 1 by 1 to know which spell is obstructing the plugin? T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Find out the one you already have affects for, and you'll find your culprit, most likely. T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: do the 'spellup' command, and find out which one doesn't actually land. T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: cool, totally logical, thanks for your advice Arcidayne! T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i'm on a toshiba satallite, and my cat walked on the keyboard and the mouse pad doesn't work anymore, the button , f5 the mousepad togle, doesn't enage the mouse pad, any ideas? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: do you need to press any specific f-lock or function key? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: nope, it usualy just toggles T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: can't even be sure that's what the cat stepped on T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: my son's toshiba satellite has a little button under the spacebar, that turns on/off the mousepad T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: between the space bar and the mousepad that is. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: nope thats f5 on mine T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: confirmed that it works on my wife's computer T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: got a reg mouse hooked up so i can move it around, it also tried to reboot when the cat stepped on it, so i'll reboot and see if it helps T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: rebooting fixed the problem, but i lost my pup counter, bummer T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i have another question, you can go spell/spells int or dex, but why not strength? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: that worked T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: so i have to run a php code with php script.php and it will run, but to exit i have to do a ctrl+z to stop, then normally a kill on the PID to stop the script, anyone know how to make it so that i can have it shutdown with a command so i dont have to go through that whole process? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Is it stuck in a loop somewhere? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: it is meant to keep running, its a discord bot, im just in the process of coding it, so i have to keep killing/enabling it while i test T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: what OS? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: linux T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: signal handler, but I don't know how to write those in PHP T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: - 15 T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: a few quick questions: Is it possible to read from text files in mush, and if so is there built in support for like json or xml serialization? Secondly, are there plans or is it even possible for mush to support multi-displays,Like comm log on one screen and the rest on the other T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I may misunderstand you but if you have multiple monitors, why not just drag the comm log to the other screen? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: You cant drag comm log outside mush client window. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Because the mush client is constrained to one screen as far as I know T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: ah T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I wish it was that simple T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it's a single main window (the MDI paradigm) T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Split your duel monitors to show one desktop? That way you can span out mush over two screens. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I might try that, although I do like the extended displays, T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Nod, there is some software released to do that T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I guess the mush developers need to add this feature, since it isnt sought after so much, its not implemented. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: probably people prefer to watch pron on the second monitor.. :P T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: It would be nice but is hardly necessary T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle goes, "Heh." T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: where would I go to maybe discuss the feature, probably the mush forums, the nick gammon one because I doubt fiendish can add it T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I use my second monitor to watch hollywood movies, watch cable tv or playing games. Pron is not on the list :P T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Approach Fiendish. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: I could pup forever if I had a second monitor!! T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Could even install a third screen, but no use for it T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: double the pron!! erm.. educational programs!! T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I put my maps and vlc for music or south park T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: You can use a proxy to send data to a second screen but you'd have to program something to display it T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: vlc has a nice feature called always on top.. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: or, you could modify the mushclient (the core part, so the windows are independent) T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: If you only have one screen, and want multiple desktops, there is many software out there that enables you to toggle between individual desktops with shortcuts, this is cool for having one screen for gaming, the next for programmes etc. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: .mkv format for the win T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Now if we were alowed multiple characters online, that would be another story. simply open mush on every screen T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: still doesnt solve what I want T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: like i said, ask fiendish, one of mush developers T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I will, so about my other question, any of you know about it T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: What was the question T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Is it possible to read from text files in mush, and if so is there built in support for like json or xml serialization? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: like output log in .txt form? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: more like storing equipment sets in a file and then reading it when a command is entered T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: he wants to input text.. not output T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: so, you just want to make an alias for wearing equipment.. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Meh, that is out of my knowledge base, sorry. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: sortof but I want to make it more flexible T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: editing text is different from editing alias and more flexible? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: The alias side of equiping certain lvl sets is easy, you just have to know bag id etc. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you want to be able to edit the stored data easily as a text file? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: get all (id of bag); wea all T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I cant explain it fully, and I know of the alias strategy, and will probably use it. Just wondering for other stuff, just want to know if I can read a text file T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: see https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_io T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thank you that is all I wanted to know T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: There is multiple approaches of equipting lvl sets, but, i only know and use some aliases, nothing fancy like urs. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'd use a lua table or sqlite over a text file though T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Now if you have a script to auto equipt new lvl sets like from lvl 1 to lvl 41, that would be neat T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: there are plugins for it I hear T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Nice T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sqlite is great for something like that. If you can work well with sql, you can do things much easier. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: but some people said they're more trouble than they are worth.. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yeah I am thinking of that too, also thinking of a external that can be used to edit it outside of mush. And I know that, but I want to get into doing stuff for mush and I like programming so I want to do a few small thinfs T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I imagine updating the eq db every time you add a piece could be tedious T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: when you have some finalized sets.. an alias is more than what you need imho.. you don't change those often for sure T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Syght nods. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: probably but if I have an external gui program created where you just specify the wear location and new id it is not too bad T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: thats why, its abit tedious for my brain, using aliases and bag ids is OK for now T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: personally, mendaloth's eq exporter was great help when I changed to mush and needed to re-do my wear aliases.. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: it saved me quit ea lot of hours of identifying eq myself.. :P T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: At tier 0 before a rebuild, converted trains converts into instinct. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: mis T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: That is like ten mintues of pupping during double xp T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: mis T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grissom chuckles politely. T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Sorry T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: wow the refresh quaffer part of Lunk's autoquaffer is really broken T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the hp and mana parts work fine they quaff when under the thresholds but the moves part quaff even when it has 4000/4200 moves left and the percent threshold is set to 20% T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: never mind I messed up, it is working fine T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone using xbroadcast.level or aware of what the value of levelinfo.type is when you pup? T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have a copy of duckbat's proxy? I cant seem to find it anywhere T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have a copy of duckbat's proxy? T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: how easy would it be to link my android phone to my computer such that I could control what the computer does from my phone? T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: it's ok to "not easy" T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I used teamviewer to do that once, but the lag was atrocious. It may be better if you're on a faster connection though. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: ask Abelinc how he setup his SSH connection. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: depends on the operating system you have on the computer. if windows, teamviewer can be a choice, if you have a decent connection on the phone. if linux, a secure shell might be enough, depending on what exactly you mean by 'control' T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: I had previously used mudlet, and switched to mushclient, I'm not seeing my notifications anymore (like goals, global, notes etc) although they are on. is there a setting I have to toggle somewhere? T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: confused on how to get bast spellup to recognize skills/spells ive already practiced T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: anyone have the link for the tutrioal on how to work with the GMCP T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: finger Fiendish. or wiki.aardwolf.com and look for gmcp T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: I looked up the wiki and understand it a little, but there was a link that was done a few days ago that had a pretty good step by step detailed info on how to use it. i just forgot to bookmark :( T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/04/05/1812232/canonical-killing-unity-for-ubuntu-linux-will-switch-to-the-superior-gnome T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: I apologize for asking, anyone use a functional version of Duckbat's proxy, or know where I can find/download one? T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: are there any laws about containing AIs at all? T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: keeping them in a box or something like that T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: hrmmmm?? VBox? T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean, when they starting doing viruses and crap like that, immediately there were laws. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: ahhh T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: there are consortiums that I have read about, some that have been springing up in the past year or so, working toward humanities interests specidifcally T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: when talking about paranoias any kind, this one has actually legit reasons:P T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: aye T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: baby steps T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is there widespread lag on the internet duting the day T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: you can check http://www.internettrafficreport.com/ T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: though fraid i must think the cats outside the box, both alive and dead, for all time, too late, too bad... luckily, various 'other' qi T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh right. no one ever asked "how long the cat has been in the box?" T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in which USA state is the aardwolf server located T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Florida I think T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: No one say! T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo acks at Tasty Tipro! T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Now she's going to nuke Florida! T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It USED to be Florida when Lasher hosted it in his home, but I think it's gone to a co-lo now. IDK if it's still in FL or not. T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I heard Lasher lives in Mother Russia T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Fake news! T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Not fake! Alt-Lasher T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: He's never met anyone from Russia or had any contacts. SAD T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I heard they offered to host his mud for life if he just took some campaign money ;) T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: he did NOT sell the strip club T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm indicates 38% of the North American router network is down T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh, ok I think its time we moved this to another channel, all but Xyliz who is still on topic T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: That is strange Xyliz, thankfully the line this server is on seems stable for now T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the horrendous day lag continues, i may be able to save $70 per month less the cost of a cheap cellphone, as i won't be wasting time playing internet games T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the irc lag is gone. Something happened at 19pm to reduce the lag T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's not IRC if it's not laggy AF T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: at 18:15pm on irc there was a 2m29s ping lag T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: that sounds bad.. have you tried turning america on and off again? T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 150 seconds to get a ping reply to self via the Ashburn Virginia irc server T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: it was Bannon's fault T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hrm, looking at the unrefreshed internettrafficreport, the router in Ashburn Virgina was down, maybe that explains the recent irc lag T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: refreshed the webpage, Ashburn Virginia router is yet reported as down (maybe the list is not updated immediately) T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: so hate windows 10 T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have a copy of duckbat's proxymud/mudproxy? i cant find it anywhere T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is there another way to "reinstall" the GMCP mapper, other than using the plugin manager, each time it goes blank T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: How do you set a variable from a trigger in MUSHclient? T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anyone know anything about software system analysis and design and want to study it for me so I can MUD tonight :) T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anyone know how to fix a kernel data inpage error on windows 8 T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: of course.. restart the computer!! T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and download the next 4gb update too!! T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i wonder. there are newbiemistakes for languages. but mostly an old blogs of "10 top mistakes". what would be a best and easiest way to make such page that people can improve constantly. and be on 1st page on google search T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: stack overflow? T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Well the error makes the laptop blue screen and run a disk check . T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: hm T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Laptop is currently stuck at log in screen could it be a hardware or software fault T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: user fail, type in your username and password ;) T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: about stack overflow, i feel its not like ideas board that can tolerate all my stupid bursts of inspiration:P T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: but there is a bunch of typos that doesn't cause errors of any kind but mess up the code. in js.. if not knowing those, geez. T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it logs in but then usually the desktop keeps crashing till I have restarted the pc four or five times and then it is stable till it switches off or the error happens after a while T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the first time it happened it cleared my desktop and Taskbar , and wiped most of my preferences T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: wth. my mushclient crashed - completely. with the 'searching for a solution online' dialog, and no other explanations. I moved the significant files to a new install (well, unzip really) - it worked. I tried replacing the exe with the working one, it kept crashing T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: check you hardward. memory and disk T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I am on the same hardware T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no not you Liber. i meant Grissom T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: oh, I see :) T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Ok how? it is a laptop . is there software I can use T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: fresh install to fix em all. fresh install to throw them to the wall. T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: fresh install is not an option at the moment T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: which system? T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: windows 8 T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: have you tried rebooting in safemode? T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you might wanna try one of the linux liveCD's. some of them have a hardware checker that you can run T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you could revert to time before the preference deletion instead of fresh install T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I will try that and restore is not possible T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grissom: I'd try creating a new user and log in using that, to see if it's corruption in some preferences or registries of your current user T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: liber: copy plugins over to the newly-unzipped folder a few at a time to see if/when you get the new one to crash...my guess would be something in a state file is corrupt T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: thanks, but I replaced the install completely. other than the fonts and the layout, everything else was in the mapper/log/world file. I'm using a very light setup (basically a custom alias and that's pretty much it) T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: download memtest86, put it on a boot disk (or thumb drive) and test your ram T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You notice Saemson sigh as she patiently tries to explain it yet again. T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: need me some yelp T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: went through the MSDN docu for help files, still find myself befuddled T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help files for what? T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: the mushy T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: mush T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: i see a help contextual next to the window menu T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: but when I try to click it T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: failed to launch T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh...use http://abelinc.me/w10help for Windows 10, or use http://abelinc.me/winhlp32 for Windows Vista, 7, or 8 T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll install the help viewer that MS stopped shipping T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you may also need to right-click the MUSHCLIENT.HLP file, go to properties, and click "unblock" T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: is there a way for me to see the full commands of ALL portals stored in mapper? T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper portals? T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Abelinc one of my keys on my keyboard is broken will you fix it for me T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I press the left side of it it just pops off T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glue it on :-) T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: the glue burns :( T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't want to ruin my laptop with glue :( T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: feel the bern T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: buy new T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I did but the doctor took care of that with antibiotics T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: is there an easy way to automatically stop myself from going a particular direction in a particular room? T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I already locked the exit so I can't run there accidently with mapper commands, but I would like to have something stop me from going in if i just type w or whatever when I am in that particular room T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: you could make a mapper note and have it say don't you dare go west this time you fool! T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: set it with a level lock of level 301 or something. Assumjing you are using mushclient. T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But that means you'll never go through that exit. T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: using the mapper at least, can manually do so. T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne rolls on the floor laughing at Super-Swag Vinatia's antics! T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mis. T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnoch Tech: For the voting address, is there a way to make that a dynamic link? T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: are there dtrack plugins, or a plugin that does the same thing as dtrack but over several skills? T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: looking for a realtime display in a miniwindow if such a thing exists T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: when using ctrl+f in mushclient how do you find the next occourance? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have a CLI php script, im sure its like normal web scripts where i can call other php files right? or will it force those to run also and need to be killed eventually? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone aware of a script to help organize and play the poker game (the items that drop in the world). I even have to learn how to play poker for the first time *grin* T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just use get all put all T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I mean: for cards 1-9 - only four of a kind matters, for 10+ - only royal flush T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so you just need 2 bags to hold your cards T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: get all.card all.your.bags, then put all.two 1.lug, put all.three 1.lug, and so on till put all.nine 1.lug T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i see, so you dont worry about getting straight flushes? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: then put all.water 2.lug, put all.fire 2.lug, and so on T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i was thinking about something to make it easier for me to make combinations to maximize the qp rewards T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: straight flush - 5 cards, 40 points = 8 points per card, four of a kind: 35 QPs, 4 cards - so 8.75 per card T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: uhm check your math? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: but i see your point about bifurcating 1-9 vs others T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: my math? 40 / 5 = 8, 35 / 4 = 8.75 , what is wrong with my math ? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh nm i mis read T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i thought you were talking about the royal flush T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i am sleepy T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: because royal flush (ie 10+) will give you 50 points per 5 cards, so 50 / 5 = 10 T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emm nods. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: im just sleepy T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i should sleep T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aha, are the rules the same as real poker IRL? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: there are no real life quest points T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: at least none i have ever found :) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also in RL you cannot turn in 4 * 2 of fire T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thank you. your strategy eliminates the need for anything fancy. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: my strategy is to simply sell the cards T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i used to sell then i overheard someone say they earn decent qp from playing T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also, as you know QP per card value - you can set what price is reasonable to pay per card, for example TP costs 125 QPs (if you're trading TPs for QPs), so 40k per point (at 5 mil per TP), so for 10+ cards - they are worth 400k (40k * 10QP/card) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you find person paying more - it is probably more profitable to sell them cards, buy TPs for gold and do TP / QP transfer T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i've seen people paying as much as a mil for a card they wanted badly enough T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: which seems silly to me T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: maybe a good strategy Emm would be to just find a buyer willing to buy in bulk and just be done w/ it? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: well, depends, if you do not want to tier/remort/redo and want to get easy QPs - you need overpay T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: meh i usually just wait till I have a bunch and then sell them in bulk, but if I happen to have one that someone needs i will take the profit T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: besides T9 usually has usually much more gold than he can spend on anything T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: im surprised there isn't more direct buying of qp, instead of qp/tp transfering T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i mean the same mechanism would work to just offer to buy qp for 40k gold each or whatever T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also, quite often if you put a card to market with 1 mil buyout (min buyout) - they will sell pretty fast T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hey abe, do you use a proxy of any kind? or know of anyone that is maintaining one? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a proxy wouldn't gain me anything, I keep my text-only client running full-time and connect to it as needed, which is all a proxy would be anyway T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: discounting the couple ancient mccp proxies, there are 2 proxies for Aard, duckbat's and hadar's T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: hello, abelinc T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod... thats kinda what I had in mind as well... I suppose thats kinda the same thing... what textonly client do you use? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use tinyfugue T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hello fappybird :-) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: of course you do T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've used tinyfugue since before any of those other clients existed ;-) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: old fuddydaddy alert T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: abelinc is a right granny I like magna more T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keep it up and I'll switch over to Biker :P T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how many characters do you hac T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: have* T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those 3 T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: he's all of us T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eureka used to have 3 as well, but one of hers was archived last year T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: his name is legion T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc wonders how Eureka's coming with those eggs T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why do you have so many chars? to give chaos a semblance of activity? :p T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You slap Redryn. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's why klymax does :P T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: that belongs on the gclan channel alongside the boot butt kicking T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and the hook goat sex stories T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: magna's there to give me interrogate T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: biker was there to give chaos a sacrificial bandit for raid defense T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I've always used Abelinc as a mage on MUDs T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: oh. there. oceanpark's sea-goats were ment for Hook. yes. now it all makes sense T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: been pondering about the mob for so long T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two great tastes that taste great together T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but are they sea goats, or are they goatse? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Umpalumpa cuddles a sea-goat. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: its a female T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And why is this on tech?? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: yeah, no females in tech! T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn runs away in utter terror! T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Must be no females in your life, either. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: come on let us keep our sexism to imm T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: realy bad with colors, but the default imm channel on black is so had to read T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyone else with old eyes T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: you can chnage that to another color T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yes, but not having luck figuring htat out T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: help colorset T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: yay someone else knew T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks folks, was looking in client to change something, this works better T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: yaohooo! glad to be of assistance evenif i did nothing T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well the colorset was helpful better than lifting and tilting laptop ;) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, Alt+6 will bring up the ansi color, and you can modify them to display whatever color you want. Helpful for color-blind people. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks arcidayne T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: recently vision has gone worse after getting diabetes T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: used to be able to see these colors T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: yes it is. im mildly colorblind. reds and oranges and blues and greens look the same to me. like very hard to tell apart. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Even with perfect vision, those colors are extremely hard to see, such as the dark blue and dark red. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I don't recall having this much trouble, but stopped playing for a few years T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: brightening those colors helped, thanks mchly T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: "muchly" geeze T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: no to try to figure out a better way to organize my ear, trying to figure out Bast's eqsets T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: s/no/now/ T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: need new keyboard? :p T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well using this silly laptop keyboard kinda stinks, but had to balance on something so that I can get real keyboard T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: double letters are what I miss mostly T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: organize your ear... I thought you were gonna talk about audio sounds... :p T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: wow, sorry about that organize my equipment T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're fine. Just having a bit of fun. :p T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: never a problem T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: married with children so extremely thick skinned T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well children are all adults now, so even thicker skin T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Automatically saying random things is not considered botting, is it T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thought that was tourettes T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica looks for someone to smother...better back away... T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: that is certainly a tricksy question. :) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: the smothering one? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no, bamboo's T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, as long as you're not benefitting from the random sayings, I don't see the harm. Just make sure you do it in a private place, like your manor. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: having a triger or something say something random? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Thinking of writing a script that will randomly say some trivia or something T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Man I have too much free time.. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably will get a lot of people ignoring you if you do it in a public place. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but if your random sayings make you more popular, well, you benefit from it in some way :P T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne cackles gleefully at Deuter. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: problem is if it goes haywire, people will hate you T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne watches as Bamboo takes Frank the Bird's place in Fens. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well bambo is occasionally helpful, so hard to "hate" T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo flails his arms about wildly. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: man that o doesn't want to be typed T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: ooooooo T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I hate noone but other people(Mique) arent that understanding T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love my wireless keyboard/mouse setup with my laptop. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I have the same setup Arci T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not cool to blast names like that, though. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly at Tricksy Bamboo. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I have one, just need a table for this laptop methinks T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I know, sorry T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: see if wife will buy me one T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: M=No definitely not (Mique) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Laptop on desk next to bed. Lay back and MUD all day. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, sounds fun T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with Oak Tender Arnica about their shared secret. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I have 2 laptops. Just plug the adapter to the other one, easy access T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades perks up, something must have grabbed his attention. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Grissom LOVES Emerald! T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: laptop and 23' screen on bed :) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Gotta ask Arci, how small is your bed, or how long are your arms? O_o T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: lol T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne boggles at the concept. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: actually better add a switch to hand gripper, then connect hand gripper with PC, and pup whole day just exercising your hands T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: My arms are long enough to reach, thank god. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm confused with what that has to do with my set up... T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I rdp from my phone T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Is the keyboard/mouse on the desk? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: stop being so sexual bamboo T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No... T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: You fap from your phone? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Oh okay then T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: it has very little to do with it, probably didn't see the wireless mouse/keyboard thing T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: exactly T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was very confused. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: going to hunt tray tables, wife may not have thrown all away T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I did. I just assumed the keyboard mouse were on the desk because the desk is right next to the bed, and mouse on bed is hard T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't even let the women I'm dating know my (bed) size before two days. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not when you have a white board and a mouse pad to act as a hard surface. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I have my mouse on a book with mousepad ontop of the book T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so in other words, you're the only one that knows your bed size, arci T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Pleiades. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fairly accurate. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: but you tell the penis size first minute T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Okay we're straying.. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you're the one that talked about rpd'ing T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Tricksy Bamboo. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: rdp T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice, blew up eqsets apparently killing a quest mob T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne rolls on the floor laughing at Bytor's antics! T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: Can I RDP into abelinc? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Les Esc Argot nods at Pleiades. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Les Esc Argot Tech: Just need his root pw T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: that sounds like a scary thing to do, does he listen on 3389? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: he uses command line client T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I used to use tf and tt++ but mapper so nice here T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: he's set to allow all T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So I just got an S7 (not gonna pre-order the S8). I am behind the times. I need to figure out which apps to download for it, though. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I like my S7 T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: See this is what I'm talking about T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: http://api.icndb.com/jokes/random T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I stay fairly stock though T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: How I started. Fiendish corrupted me with his wild wiles T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Les Esc Argot Tech: He's a little too trusting :) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I have Nova Launcher Prime, but I hate that the theme doesn't apply to it. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so was RMS T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Speaking of Fiendish, I need to write him a note. BRB! T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I love Nova, been using it for years when it was on sale for 10 cents T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice, I own it, just haven't played in droid much for a while, need to use iphone for work phone T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: hehe, code runs faster when chuck norris is watching it T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyways, thanks folks, back to IRL ...ewww T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Chuck Norris doesn't need to use AJAX because pages are too afraid to postback anyways. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: The class object inherits from Chuck Norris T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm kind of frustrated with the messages, though. While on my old phone, long messages would come all together in one message. Now they all come in chunks, even if the Auto-combine feature is enabled. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sighs. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just want to be able to see all these split messages as one, just like I could before. Ugh. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo flails his arms about wildly. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'd think that cell phone companies would figure out a way to not split long messages long ago. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: a hold over from text costing per message T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which phased out decades ago. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: decades? nah T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I've not been charged per message in at least 20 years. :p T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, maybe 15. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it's actually because the SMS spec itself does not allow long messages... T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I sure as hell was, T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Wasn't it a control frequency they shoehorned text into? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But SMS is not twitter. I should be able to receive a 15 word text without it being split up into two separate ones. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 15 words usaully fit into a single message, unless they're long words T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Twittew length is directly beacause of sms' length T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Literally, this was a text from my mom this morning: "Good morning, Son! Thankyou for the article. I remember how proud we " -- "were! It rained pretty good yesterday but clearing up today. I'm g" -- "lad it won't rain on the birthday party tomorrow." T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that almost looks like they're fitting them into 80-char terminal lines T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc tries to remember what pager limits were T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: you know they can easily not split those messages, but then they cant charge you double T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's ridiculous, too. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't charge me anything extra anyway. $50 flat for unlimited everything, minutes, texts, data. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: OK, so you pay for unlimited, but others dont necessarily T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Look at the revenue streams from SMS charges over the past decade, its staggering T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Major profit generator - and SMS was added as an afterthought T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The worst part is when they come in jumbles, so you see things like "This is text split 3" -- "This is text split 1" -- "This is text split 2" T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I've known people who got kids phones, and saw a $700+ bill when the kid signed up for all sorts of text alerts T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: exactly T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And regardless, the texts can still be sent as one bundle, even if companies want to split them for billing purposes. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually you can get them reduced as you sign up for unlimited (and bitchslap the kid, depending on if they're old enough that they should know better), but how many people don't bother to ytry to talk it down T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The S7 has an "auto-combine" feature that supposedly combines split messages. It doesn't seem to work for me, heh. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mom's on Verizon with an iPhone. I'm on Sprint with an S7. :\ T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And Mom's not tech saavy enough to stray away from texting, so no WhatsApp or FB messenger (hell, she just barely got on FB last year, and she's 61 years old!) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: whats a good plugin for moons? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: mush T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Bast has a decent one. NOt sure about it's dependencies or how easy it is to install by itself. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: k thx T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: anyone using Galaban's moon plugin? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm today when I do -h it locks my client up for a few seconds, never did that before T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You recently upgrade? Or install a new plugin. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not that I can remember T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: still happen if you do chan -h 5... T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nope T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: clan -h 20 is like a second or so of lockup T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: even 50 is not a whole greyed out window, just a second of lag or so T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: while just -h greys out my window(as in not responding program) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Does a note list on idea board do the same? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: oh yeah, much longer though T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sounds like - and just guessing - it's a connection issue. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You on mushclient/have mccp enabled? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mccp is enabled and yes mush T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No idea, but what you have described has been caused by bad connection speed in the past for me...no idea if that is your problem. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: oh my, so running to areas is doing it also... this will not do T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am on a cable connection.. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: doesnt mean it's runn at designed speed! T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: very true, 32ms pining 8.8.8.8 T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try running a speed test? Can try connecting through telnet to eliminate client as the cause. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: pinging aard is giving me about 55-60 ms T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Random fact telnet isnt installed on Windows 8 and 10 T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am on linux nemura T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Ah nm then T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that's what putty is for! T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: interesting after restarting the client it doesn't do it anymore T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: The clinet was only open for a day or so... not sure why that would happen T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: still having memory issues though not nearly as bad as it used to be. Client starts at 50ish Mb after a day its up to over 100is Mb, still less than the 1.6Gb it was using T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Are you using vanilla wine? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: thats poorly worded but yea.. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it happens on 1.6, 1.8, 2.4 (Staging) T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: Mudlet is pretty good for Linux T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, I might switch over soon. This is pissing me off, been trying to work with Fiendish and Nick Gammon for a few weeks now T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: how is the scripting and mapping? Or am I stuck coding myself? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: There's a generic automapper script on the Mudlet forum T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I don't think they have any Nemura T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I could always download it myself and find out =p T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: I've never used it myself T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh, worth a look T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Nemura if you find anything about it could you send me a tell please, I need to go put my 2 year old to bed T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: I've not done any scripting for Aardwolf but I have for another MUD, it's done through Lua T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: anyone around who works with plugins? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's your question? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: looking for a plugin, or an assessment of the difficulty of making one, that displays dtracker-like info in real time for multiple skills T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If this plugin is for use in nuclear power plant - sorry can't help. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I have zero plugin making experience, and my last "coding" experience was a h.s. programming class in the 90s :P T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Already plugins like that available, but takes an extensive amount of time to write. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd say medium level difficulty. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Therefore, those who have it probably aren't keen on sharing it too easily. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: can you direct me to a plugin like that? sadly there's no like "here's all the plugins for aard that exist" site T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: ah T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I mean mapper especially seems time intensive but there's a few of those shared widely T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aye, but not all plugins are made by people who like to share T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jilted nods. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I don't know of any that do that Jilted, but it would be worth a look at if I found one. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: ok well since this probably won't pan out, for now, ok T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: what plugins do you guys use that you like, and what do they do T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have a few minor ones on my git in my finger T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: basts stuff is cool, abelinc has some in his finger, winkles stuff. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am not going to go through all of my plugins as there are 30+ plugins I use T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jilted nods. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but, everything from spellup managment to mapper help stuff T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what is the command to turn off the id behind items in your inventory? T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Uninstall the inventory_serial plugin. T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah, so it is a plugin T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods. T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I have moved to a 1336x768 screen for the week mostly from a 1920x1080 feels so wrong and dirty T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: does anyone know how to install internet explorer 10 on a machine that already has microsoft edge? T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: just download and install it? T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: install firefox or chrome T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: or isn't it installed already for backwards compatibility? T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: are you using Windows? T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: sadly i had to revert to using IE because silverlight refuses to work on anything else ... but it come pre installed on 10 T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: in tinyfugue, if I use /loadlua