T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: My stats tracker window for mushclient disappeared and I don't know where it went. "resetaard" doesn't give it to me either
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: hi guys, stat bar suddenly disappeared from mush, do I reinstall it? and if so what is the name of it
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i find when that happens that i just need to start the cleint again, if it started the day that way
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: {chan ch=ftalk}(Friend) Princess Aliphant: 'I was clicking on the main window and accidentally hit a key combination that must've caused it to disappear'
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: there should be a combo to bring it back then?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that doesn't sound like the issue i have, so i can't help
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: No worries, thanks for trying
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: thanks Shin
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: after updating the latest MUSH, everytime i startup MUSH, my UI is in a mess
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i need to resetaard everytime i logs in, am i the only one getting this problem?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi can somebody please give me a link to the latest aardwolf version thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: finger fiendish for the link
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: try fingering Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: havent fingered anyone in a while... thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I dunno, try asking on gos?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Don't worry, I'm sure Fiendish will appreciate it too! :P
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: r1825 works just fine.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: i hate some random update moron telling me i have to update mush,,, id slap  him with a chicken if i could...
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: mapper addnote is awesome.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: yes it is
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: too bad I don't have a way to search the notes (at least my version of the client/mapper)
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: why every time i close MUSHclient there is an warning that a file has been modified?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Because it has been.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamfsob Tech: is there a way to run Mudclient with Ubuntu?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, use WINE.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: WINE
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm drinking wine now
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamfsob Tech: thanks !
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: use WINE and telnet, with enough WINE you won't notice the difference.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: is anyone familiar with blowtorch, and to how to get plugins running?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You can do plugins with blowtorch?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: theres a chat window i used to have and now it cant find the file.. but yes some
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: is there a sound plugin for the latest mushclient? if so could anyone please provide me with a link?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: should be on aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: or .org been a while ill check
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: aardwolf.org its on the hope page
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: notice  clicking on aardwolf home link takes you to the .com heh
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thanks. if the triggers doesnt give sound on the new mushclients is there a setting that should be change in order to get a trigger sound playing?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: i think it still plays wav files only ive been away for a year couold have changed :p
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: so in your edit trigger diallouge box there is a place in there  torwards bottow right near middle that says  sound you can add a .wav fie to play
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: i have a sound.wave insirted but somehow it doesnt play..
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: even when you test it?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: is the trigger in regex?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: aah,, mushclient has a seperate volume control lol.. figures.. FML
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: didnt know mush had a seperate vol control :p
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Is there a way to export mapper from one MUSHclient to another?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: copy/pase the db file
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Righto. Where's that found in?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: usually in.\mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Found it - thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is the file called Aardwolf.db in the base mushclient directory BUT it can also be whatever the "Session" name is that you use
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: I want to do a fresh install of Aardwolf and export three things over - my aliases/triggers/variables, my mapper information and my plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: I've figured out how to do 1 and 3, now I know how to do too
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: thanks again guys
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it is safest to copy it when mush is closed
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Of course 
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: for this reason (complications changing the client) I'd suggest using server-side aliases wherever they can cover the task (for example, single command aliases or aliases that don't take a parameter)
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: also, I wouldn't use any aliases in cexits, and a single client-side alias for portals
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Liber, that's what I try to do as well. My MUDSide aliases are things that involve "mapper goto" commands (for navigating vidblain
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: yes, those are nice
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: My portal alias takes in a parameter (what portal you're using), so I have it MUDside
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: And my attack spam aliases :3
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Which are tied to a variable called attack_skill that I modify whenever I level up into a new skill
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the portal alias is actually one I implemented client-side, since it takes a parameter and has multiple commands. by MUDside, you mean on server, or on client?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Whoopsies, I mean client.
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: My client aliases are those that require use of a variable (like ortal_bag or ttack_skill), my MUDside aliases are everything else(eg. qc = quest complete)
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: also, for vidblain, you have 2 good options. 1 is a trivia portal to vidblain (expensive, but you solve the problem forever). 2. map extender (either on it's own, or part of s&d) includes vidblain assistance
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Why not a trivia portal to sendhia?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: sorry, I meant sendhia
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: I'm going down the sendhia route :3
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: a portal to sendhia would mean all areas there are accessible by mapper goto
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Right
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Is there a command to lock all my miniwindows in place so they can't be moved?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: aard layout lock / aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Ah, thank you
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xcalibre Tech: where can i learn more about the technical implementation of aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hello, woud you like to learn more about our lord and savior Jesus Christ?  (duck)
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i dont know that there is a lot more tech explained in places other than the website, which focuses on the history of migrating to our custom code base.
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xcalibre Tech: ah ok looks like ive got to dig around a bit more. i havent been here for a long time but i dreamt about it last night so i go back in. i remembered building an area using Lua script. thats all what i remembered
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you won't find details about the implementation of aardwolf, but you can find details about how to implement areas
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: http://bash.org/?962213
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: r1930 is out
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Does it, you know
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hopefully it fixes the new mapper commit transaction bug
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also it has layout saving
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aard layout help
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo jumps high into the air shouting out, "WOOHOO!"
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinetease Penthesilea Tech: safe for us to use as well?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal reins his horse next to Long Time Fiendish and salutes him with his lance.
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: layout saving will only work with compatible plugins. report any incompatible plugins to their respective maintainers
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: thanks for the rapid turn over Fiendish, your hard work is appreciated
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hwuai: mapper backups quiet official in 1927
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: nod. gonna switch after my daily routine:)
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: really anyone who had updated to 1927 should update to 1930
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper transaction bug was annoying
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: actually let me see...was it 1927?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah it was
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least it was only a few days
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I still have not reproduced the communication log position bug 
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not sure what's up with that
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone else see it happen?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glaine Tech: Question about Mush Client. When I first opened it it would open auto. Now, it wont do that.Any reason why?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glaine Tech: to Aard..that is
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glaine Tech: Answered me own question.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Ive shot myself in the foot twise this week, I bought some cheap gaming controller that ultimally sucks because the keys stuck and are clunky, also a headphones that lost halve its bass/sound in two days.. Never buy cheap stuff that look legit...
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there is a spot where cheap is too cheap..
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Its better to buy known brands imo. Lesson learned 
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I honestly just buy trusted electronics
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I cheap out on a lot of stuff, but not my technology
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Ontuct - Some indian store that sells chinsese goods...
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hugotski -( Done the same when I was young 
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale rapidly nods twice at No Offense Cheezburger, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: if i view it as throw away item i might go cheap, else I aim for middle of road.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: $30-40 ear buds not $9.99 not $99.99
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I aim for the $60 range for headphones
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Ive bought some dodgy cellphone battery from that store for my android device, it works like a charm, so i guess why not and try out the headphones/gaming pad, big mistake..
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: top of the line is far too expensive, yeah go for the secound newest stuff
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: good range Cheez, you can get a decent pair of Sony headphones at that range.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I usually do Razer, but yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Mid range after you did some research on google reviews, its a good gamble
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: obligatory xckd: https://xkcd.com/1036/
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i have made gambles on cheap stuff and really lied the item, then you try to find another and cant
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I find reddit and tomshardware sites reliable for such reviews.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im so disgusted with those 2 items I bought, ive thrown them in the bin.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The slip I got fro that purchase showd, no garruntee, no cash refund, that must have been my first clue >_<
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: There is a fine line for when you over pay on premium goods and abit cheaper (same perfomance) goods. you just have to do research first
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Impulsive buying is never good, doh.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: anyone. familiar with the commands to use auto hunt?
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the hunt command and the move commands
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: isn't it literally just "autohunt [target]"?
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: ah target, 'ah abort' to stop
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but how to use autohunt itself depends on what plugin you use
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ahh, ah not autohunt
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tried it.. 
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It would help to tell us which autohunt plugin :P
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There's several of them
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: its from blockda its for blowtorch.. no instructions :/
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: then the above might not apply
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the plugin might not work at all. If it has not been made for aard
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The source code for people wondering: https://github.com/blockda/aardwolf_plugins/blob/master/src/autohunt.xml
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's for aard
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And according to that source code: it should be "ah target"
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: with no way to abort prematurely
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: ooh thank you , yea had to look thru the soirce code 
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A friend is using mushclient, latest release. Comm log doesn't show remote socials, mine does. I can't find a setting for remote socials, anyone have any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You have Mendaloth's Rsocial plugin.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: your friend doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Aha, thank you
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: One day, we can hope that rsocial will see gmcp.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: need some help:
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have a HDD with a Windows 7 install I can no longer boot into, but I need to access files that were on the desktop. I took ownership of the Documents & Settings folder, but it has brand new files in there now. like desktop files from my Windows 10 install. where are the Windows 7 desktop files?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: aren't they in c:\users\username\desktop ?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: you installed 10 over 7 or are there 2 drives?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Windows 10 is on a different drive
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: should be able to boot to 10 and install 2nd drive as 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: is there an windows.old folder?  if so look in there  you may get luckey
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: "D:" or whatever the next drive letter it gets assigned
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the directory tree of the old hdd, if it wasn't booted into, would still be the same, just with a different drive letter
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the entire file system is still there, it was bootable until I replaced the motherboard
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: yeah just navigate to D:\users\<username>\desktop 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah sorry when i said c: i meant old c:.  please adjust accordingly
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, I thought it was Documents & Settings and the username is the same as the one I use in Win10 and it had brand new everything :p
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: changing permissions is taking a while which is probably a good sign
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you have some sort of ahci vs ata issue on boot?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dont see why it wouldnt boot with new mb
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: corrupted mbr?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no idea, it went into a boot loop and wanted a disc to do startup repair so I gave up on booting into Win7
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: do note.. both HD's have to be in the same PC connected to the same motherboard
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: yoscan
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: we're good, I got the folder I needed. was just looking in the wrong spot. thanks bros.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: np bra
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: time sensitive file needing and had a minor panic attack when the folder I thought it was in was empty
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: couldn't find your finish file huh
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: never fun loosing files. At least you didnt have to run a drive recovery
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded is agreeing with that Endymion person again...
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I does an image save every week, it does wonders for lost kitten.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: a disc image can be treated as a virtual drive so restoring from an image is just a matter of copying from A to B
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: it takes about 30 minutes to do 300 Gb. You could save an image every night.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: put it on a usb hd.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I could. my case has an external SATA port.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: that would work
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I keep most stuff backed up but for some reason not this. backing it up to a third drive now :p
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: one day i will regret not doing back ups
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: what's sweet is that you can mount the image and use the data on it if you like.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: today is not that day
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded misses the 'v' and wabes.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: what  I would love to do is to get about 10 Tb of cloud space and do the image save there :)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: sounds great until a data breach
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: my drive is encrypted, so the cloud would also be encrypted.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I realize that that is not a 100% guarantee :)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that's a bad way to image a drive (since imaging an encrypted drive by outside that filesystem means imaging the unused sectors as well)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you're better off with an encrypted image (some apps have that option)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: the drive is encrypted and so is the image. The image is encrypted because the usb hd is encrypted.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: for a cloud, the data is imaged so the encryption is automatic.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: so the encryption on the usb hd is not the same as what's how it is on the actual hd.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: same method, different key.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you didn't get my referrence to unused sectors then
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: lets assume you have an 1TB drive, you just installed windows on it, encrypted partition
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I did, when the drive is first encrypted all the unused sectors are encrypted once.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you image it from a tool inside that filesystem, you'll get a 10-20 gb image
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: it takes about 24 hours to encrypt a 1 Tb drive.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you image it from a tool that doesn't take into account the filesystem, you're looking at an 1TB image :)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: that is correct, but that is not my problem :) I use bitlocker.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I have a 1 TB drive and I am using about 230 Gb atm. That is the size of the image.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you're imaging a bitlocker drive from windows, it completely bypasses the bitlocker part
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: which is a good thing :)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: and be prepared that noone buys it
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: it's not for sale :>
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is there a way to set a variable in mushclient via command line?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Make an alias for it, maybe? I am not good enough to be confident of that :)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I am looking for that same problem. Setting a mudside or clientside alias doesn't seemed to get parsed if its midline on another alias
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: if it makes up the entire line (single command) it works great, but as a general variable I haven't gotten it to work
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: a client-side alias could never be called by a mud-side alias, so that part fails
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the reverse is possible. it actually works quite well
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you don't need to use separators in aliases, so you shouldn't have it middle line
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: simply put every command on a new line
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: mine was trying for an alias to change mana_pot and heal_pot
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: so that I could always get mana_pot from bag....
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I don't understand why would you need a clientside alias for that
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: simply do a mudside alias, update it if needed (at 50 levels or so for mana)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: just how I tried it first, Is there a way to get a multi-line alias mudside?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: yes. what client are you using? mush?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: try: alias hl get <pot> <bag>;;quaff <pot>
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: replace the names, and use two semicolons
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: lol yeah I just did that after you said its possible
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: it works, I am dumb
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: and thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: my cat turned on some sort of click when I type in win10 how do i disable it?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: cat turned it on laying on keyboard, I cant figure out how to shut it of using google
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hold down right shift key for 8-10 seconds
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: cats and kids, teaching people keyboard commands since the dawn of keyboards
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: not only did it give a sound, but it wuld only allow you to backspace once per keypress.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yeah, I think you have either filter keys orsticky keys turned on. check in control panel under ease of access.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I stepped away for 2 mins I came back she was stretched out across the laptop watching netflix
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kishoto Tech: smart kat
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: watching anything good?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: in all fairness she just unpaused it
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: she was watching Archer
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kishoto Tech: pleas gossip on the goss channel thank you...
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blueberry Tech: imagine your cat typing on curse channel
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tearlach shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What's blowtorch's escape key?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: so i keep getting this, any ideas? https://pastebin.com/D64dfcqn
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you use most recent mush ?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah i just downloaded the newest one
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: version 1927, si that right? 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: problem is that you have records that violate index integrity rules
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: that sounds serious.....and i have no idea waht that means. 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: r1930
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh. okay then lets try updating. 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: is there a command that pulls up the automatic update check
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe it will fix: - bug fix: A poorly chosen variable name in aard_requirements.lua was very likely to conflict with anything else using a database. This caused transaction errors in the GMCP mapper and possibly other plugins.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: when I open the client it doesn't tell me I need to update. is there a way to trigger that? 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try: package update check
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: that worked 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway your problem is: UNIQUE constraint failed: areas.uid
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that means either you have extra rows in areas table or there was introduced new constaint
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I hate myself for actually writing a Monte Carlo smulation using https://github.com/samshadwell/TrumpScript
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it yuge?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's not like his hands, that's for sure
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Bigly
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: is there an updated version of statmn?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the bast version is upto 2097, was the latest he did
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can see the version numbers if you type plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: how do i add notes to rooms again?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: mapper addnote stuffgoeshere
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: or right click on the room in the mapper window
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys.. could anyone please send me a link of where i can download statmonitor?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Finger Fiendish - his web address has a client package that should include all the default plugins that come packaged with MUSH, including statmon
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: wonderfull thanks ali!
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: whats the command to pull the help files for s&d on mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ww, iirc
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: ww help I think
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ahh ty
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to get xrt to work? Ive xset mark the beginning of an area, and how can I get the xrt to work?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: just xrt <areaname>
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh you need the S&D fix. finger ... um, what's that guy's name...
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i got it from winklewinkle
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Winklewinkle's version doesn't make xrt work. I think it's a bug or something.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Try using Fiendish's version. Finger Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yeah. if you're using winkle's S&D you'll need the fix that fixes S&D with the new mapper schema.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: The web address should be a link to where you can download their S&D :)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Oh, whoopsies, I am dumb, fiendish is not the S&D guy
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: He's the MUSHclient guy
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: excatly that
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i know bast, winkle, and nokjah?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Try using Winklewinkle 1.3.1 rather than 2
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I'm trying to remember the name of the guy thatI got the S&D fix from. ugh.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: starling?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: akfah? something like that.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Yes, try Starling
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: that's not right though sincethere's no one with that name. but it's something similar
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: Nokfah
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: starling has old version
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Tryllus, try using this: https://github.com/AardStarling/Search-and-Destroy-1.3.0
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yes, nokfah
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: finger starling?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: if you want to use winkle's S&D, nokfah's fix will allow you to do it.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thats what I want
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: I still use WW's spellup though
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Is there a reason to use winkle's+fix, if starling's already works?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: It's just so simple and good
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Daagar: The reason would be that Starling's one is a fixed version of Winkle's, so they're the same thing :3
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: well for me personally, I like winkle's, because it's accessible to those with screen readers.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Starling's is listed as S&D 1.3
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: That's kinda what I thought, Aliphant. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: whats the command to set home on mapper?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how do i get aard stuff based on id number from my bag? just id number and it didnt work, so?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: did you include the ()
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: gonna try it now
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: and correct bag number
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: get (123456789) bag
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: so.. get (somenumber) 2.bag or whatever
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yeah.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: that works, thank you
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: you can also do that with the id of the bag ... get(123456789) (987654321)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yeah, it was what i wanted to know, I used cmud and they had tilde in it
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: maybe as an escape sequence for the parentheses? I dunno, never used cmud.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you shouldn't need parentheses at all, right?  I don't use them and it works for me on mush.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: or is that just a mush thing?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh? hmm. I was told to put the parentheses.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: no parentheses for me either on mush
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yeah. if I just type look 396732, which is my aard bag, I get I don't see that here. but if I put parentheses around it, it lets me look at it.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's a keyword, not the ID
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can use the id without parentheses, but you need the parens for the keyword
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: uh, oh... where is the ID found?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. under ID in identify. interesting.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: what do you get when you type "id bag" 
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yep, that's the one
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: you can get a basic desc of an item that way no matter what yes, or rt ident ident item, if you want more info like where it's from
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: or use the identify spell, if you have it, which I do. :)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone tell me more about this rsocials script
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: mendaloth's rsocials script?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess so
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it do?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: it just puts the socials into the comm log
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how does it know?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Fiendish: https://github.com/mendaloth/a-few-random-aard-plugins/wiki seems to be the source
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: he just uses the pattern iirc
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what, starting with an asterisk?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is that safe?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: It's worked since I've been using it
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Seems to work reliably enough for my uses
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: match="^\*.+$"
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It'd be nice if socials were tagged and/or gmcp, but hey, we lives with what we gets.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing else ever starts that way?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: how can I discover what someone attached to my phone
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you mean attached to your phone? like a suction cup?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: the smotes start with red asterisks I think and that's all there is
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: fascinating. that trigger should be added to the comm log plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: like he got ahold of my phone for a bit and flipped a swich or something....hes a little shit and not good enough for my niece
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: I want to catch his ass
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Looks like he does a quick check on the line asterisk color too
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone rsocial me
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: oh right if you random someone globally it's a bright magenta asterisk
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: was that a random?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so it does rsocials but not smotes?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: well the smote is only visible in the room
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's true
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so is say
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: true!
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: It checks for bright magenta and dark cyan
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: that Mendaloth is a thinker
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rsocial me again plz
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: i demand my lick back, if testing is over
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/commit/437c76575127c999dc4ad3a363f8fd3950bcdcd4
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Now watch people find 1000's of cases where it captures when it shouldn't :)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I hope so
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Daagar: I can't find a good visual reference for how to use/name theme elements. So they'll have to just be made up.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: That's fine, I just didn't want to screw up your original intent
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't have a way to briefly describe things like "inner shadow" and "outer shadow", so I think there will need to be some pictures made
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not even sure I remember the difference between the two
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: inner/outer was one of the few I knew how to use correctly
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Because of your Resize widget function :)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: But I realized quickly that I probably wasn't using face/detail/hightlight as intended. I was starting to use whatever wasn't already being used elsewhere...
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the current names were chosen years ago, and I've since lost memory and affinity for them. Feel free to suggest anything else if you think it makes sense. I'll also convert the comm log as probably the most complete example
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: choose_theme() also wasn't hooking into things quite right. When I load a new theme, some things apply but others don't. (I assume this was because of how _I_ was hooking things up, not anything wrong with choose_theme() itself)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: That would be awesome - just having the comm plugin as a template would make it easy to be consistent across the others
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: for bast spellup plugin - anyone know how to set priority/move a spell to the top of the list?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Bast's stuff is good, but I take issues with his documentation
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: documentation is harder than programmin
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Even when it isn't harder, it isn't as fun
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: code just has to work. you don't have to look at it
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Code doesn't even have to work ALL the time
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: whats the command to make home as portal replacement and portal when home wont go in mushclient/mapper?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: is there a way to dig up stuff a teenager plopped off a laptop?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: plopped off is not a technical term. more specific?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: like check history of porn? :p
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I knew there was a reason I shredded my internet history :)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: he completely erased everything we had on it...
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: no like wiped out his sisters college?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: on, he erased the disk?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: all the notes and info
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: is it on HDD or SSD?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: how thorough? just cleared recycle bin? formatted the drive?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: is there a way to get it back? archives? time warp
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: well, depending on how he did it the stuff might be recoverable. But it will be hard to say without actually looking at the disk.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: try encase or ftk
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if you use undelete or other types of recovery software, be sure to hook the drive to another machine because you want to save those files where there is less chance of overwriting and destroying "deleted" addresses
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: he cleared the trash bin
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: my first try would be 'recuva'
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: load it from like a usb or something. every time you write to the laptop drive, you risk overwriting deleted content
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: some files and folders have previous versions stored by windows, some more versions that others, some none, but it is worth a try to go to the folders and right-click on it then select previous versions. I recover deleted that way sometimes. Even if the trash bin is empty.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: the data is saved in one of the hidden partitions.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: fell off a minute sry
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: anyone know what order stuff to click on to remove the order and chaos game from my laptop? it closes and never worked
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I'm over it and want to remove it
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: anyone*
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: depends on the question
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: i need some plugins. 
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for blowtorch of zmud or cmud or telnet?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: wich one is the android one?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: between those 3 options i have no idea...
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: doesnt even say
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the android client is blowtorch and as far as i know, no one has any public plugins for it
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: hmm....is there a way to use plugins for pc on android and the mapper as well?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: someone might know a way to remotely control your pc, that would be one way to do it
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: something like teamview but for android
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: i will do some research. i remember someone was doing this
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: google android teamviewer
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I have a teamviewer app installed on my phone, I don't know if it's 'google teamviewer' however. It seems to be the same teamviewer I have installed on my pc.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: he mean use google to find teamviewer
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheriff Shindo sighs.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there is only one teamviewer named app 
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: well, it's the 'google' thing I don't agree with.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is common term "google <something>"
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i meant the verb 'google' to look up on a search engine
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I am still resisting using 'google' as a verb, I still consider it an noise.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i was in no way implying that the app was owned by google
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I use google to look up data, I don't google the data :)
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: language changes, everybody uses "google something", even though google objects this
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, i seem to recall they tried to stop the Swedes from adding a word that, something like ungoogleable, that translates to unsearcheable, to their official dictionary
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: language doesn't change, google is, at best, a noun. Just because people are too lazy to say 'I use google to' doesn't make the use of 'google' as verb grammatically correct.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: and 'everybody' doesn't use 'google' as a verb. I know of at least one person that doesn't :)
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: really, you still use "gentle" as "noble" equiv ? qed
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if language didn't evolve we'd all still be speaking like chaucer or moses
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I can't think of a context in which either the word 'noble' or the word 'gentil' would be used. Perhaps when that happens I'll let you know.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: do you still distinguish "computer" (like Cray or Odra) from "personal computer" like any x86 based machine?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: well, I have no clue how Moses spoke, but as to Chaucer, there was nothing really wrong with his manner of speech.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: he certainly wouldn't have 'googled' something. He would have used google, however.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: or the equivlent :)
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I even remember some people using term "computer" for calculators, technically it it correct, as calculator uses its CPU to compute 
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: actually, computer is a misnomer, the correct term is 'computing machine'
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: though 'computing' glosses over what the machine actually does, which is simply add (serially) :)
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so I guess you find "thou shalt use the google search engine" more correct than just "google"
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: OTOH interesting thing is that nobody uses "bing something"
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: only because 'bing' hasn't displaced google yet :)
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: hi .. I thought I used to have the tick timer on the GUI at the bottom left of MUSHCLIENT. After I upgraded recently, I do not see that anymore.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: anyone knows how to configure that ?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: Aardwolf_Tick_Timer.xml
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: thanks Deuter
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I just googled it :P
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: LOL .. stupid me .. I was googling for configurations .. I thought it was built in. Forgot about plugins.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: you were using google to search configurations? How grammatical of you :>
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: im on Google!
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: you poor thing.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: some genius please make my mapper work on Android please
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: i faintly recall there being a plugin for helping to manage potions and whatnot. anybody remember where to find it?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Several of them.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: okay. if it helps. i remember there was a set. one for potions, and one for managing eq sets. i think they were made by the same person?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then you're probably looking for Bast's. Finger him for the link.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: yep. looks right. thank you arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: I am using MUSHclient for Aardwolf.  Is there a way to setup a command so it will cast two or more spells?  I want to just type 'buff' and have it auto-cast all my buff spells.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: alias buff spellup self
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, just use the built in spellup command
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Cool!  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salidar Tech: anyone know if it is possible to increase the buffer size on the communication log on the aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i wasnt aware it had limitations
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh its hardcoded to 10,000
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's no way to change it
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unless you edit it yourself and reload it
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SnailImm Anaristos . o O ( zap it on disk? )
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Is MUSHclient open source?  If so, you could make the changes yourself and then compile it.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its just a plugin, edit the text file
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Mushclient is not, however the comm log plugin is.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salidar Tech: hrrrmm....might have just been something with my system.  The bar is now getting smaller and no messages appear to have been deleted
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salidar Tech: thank you for the responses
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Using the aardwolf mushclient, how do i add another cummunication window?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: err, i mean communication window
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Does anyone know how to add another "communication log" window so i have two on the same screen with the aardwolf mushclient? (recommended)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: looking for a script on mush, pst
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: Metis look here. Close to the bottom "Creating multiple log windows".. https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Communication-log-window
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Thanks guys, i'll look more
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: seems i need to make a duplicate of the communication log "plugin" and add it
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Ohh i got two chat windows now, thanks guys :)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: is there any plugin that will give info level gained, cp gained?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Using Aardwolf MUSHclient, how do you hide the "mobsay" channel from the main window? i could hide most other channels but this one refuses.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: you tried the Echo channels in main window/\custom channel list option?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: custom echo list I meant
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: I turned off all echo
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: ok that should kill mobsay. If it doesnt then I'm out of options, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is mobsay a relatively new channel or something perhaps?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Mobsay has been around for years.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: What's that?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: A channel mobs use for say.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Did not know that, thought they used say same as everyone else
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Was responding to a tech question from a half hour ago.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: They are separate so people can ignore one and keep the other, if they want. Or have them both different colors.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: It was me that asked about mobsay, yes i cannot seem to stop the mobsay from appearing in main window
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Did you right-click comm window, choose Echo channels to Main -> Echo custom list -> then ctrl+click the ones you want to keep (or ctrl+click to remove mobsay)?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: They are all unselected, mobsay still prevails :(
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then let Fiendish know, since if that's the case, it's a bug.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Is there a way to forcibly attack followers/pets (eg. if you used charm person on a cp mob and need to kill it)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Have you tested it out? it might only be like this for me
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'll check, sure.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Aliphant: Have to wait for charm to wear off, but you can do 'nofollow <name>', and it might work. I forget.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Metis: What mobsays are you attempting this on?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Or which ones are going through that shouldn't?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: mobsay is getting through to the main window even with all echo is off
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'm asking which specific ones.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Oh it is the academy teachers
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I don't think they use mobsay, then. Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: I think i have confirmed it is mobsay channel because i can filter them out in the communication log windows, one has mobsay the other doesn't and they work perfectly, but the main window doesn't care :(
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: it doesn't matter if i have one or two communication log windows, or if mobsay is on or not in that window or if echo is on or off, it seems to always be on 
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Do the academy teachers always spam your main window for you as well, even when you remove echo from main?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: academy teachers use Tell
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: My chat window only allows mobsay and it displays what they say
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: if you are done with them maybe they use tells, i still haven't finished all their tasjs
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: how do you get them to "tell" you things?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: keywords
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: listen
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: read room descriptions
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: sometimes their are secrets
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: listening to them seems to be mobsay in my case
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Kippe, how you get them to "tell" you things? are you using the ventrilo spell maybe?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: they tell you things when you are doing the academy goal
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: hmm i think i need to find an npc that always talks
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: for everybody
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: the other npc's use mobsay. Academy teachers use Tell when doing the goal
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Ah okay, i'm not actually doing the goal now, just walking into the room and doing "repeat"
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: maybe that coudns as doing goal tho
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: counts
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: I think it should. You are still newb level
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: think i'll report this as a bug and just move on
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: though can you hide their chat from main window somehow? i'm curious
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, speak to Fiendish about it.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: disabling mobsay echo works fine for me
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe try updating to r1930
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Hi Fiendish :) i'm using 4.98, is this up to date?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: could it be that he has the academy goal open and it overrrides mobsay?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is there some other mobsay i can test it against?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: maybe try that mob at the beginning of Gallow Hill? he always talks
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hi metis. no. I'd appreciate keeping aardwolf-specific issues off the mushclient.com forum. Either write a note here on tech, send me an email, or add an issue to my github repository at https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/issues
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: willy the wimp?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: yeh
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (I'm catching up on some channel history here)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient _is_ open source at https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient  but that's not where my Aardwolf plugins live
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: willy the wimp output shows up in main and in my mobsay exclusive chat window
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/ takes compiled builds of MUSHclient.exe and packages them with plugins for Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metis: go to https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: sorry if i bug reported in the wrong forum, how i find the right place to report?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: k
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mobsay is mobsay. you can see what the game is sending you by typing 'gmcpdebug 1'
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 'gmcpdebug 0' turns it back off
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in any case, I'm sittin the academy and listening to the recruiter, and mobsay is being captured but not echoed
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so there's another detail to this that we're missing
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but first please try updating to r1930 and see if that fixes it
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: yeah it appears to be mobsay
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 'checkversion' command will tell you what package version you currently have (this is not the same as the version of MUSHclient.exe)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: The 'checkversion' command
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i'm going to install the next client and see what happens, brb
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: See also https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Version-Numbering#mushclient-says-the-version-is-490-why-is-that-not-my-version
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: k
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i'm back: "You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1930"
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: success! seems to work, willy is quiet
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: yeh!! peace at last
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: excellent
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good job, team
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Thanks a bunch! :)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Should i still report this as a bug for the older version?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what? no
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't have the manpower for maintaining multiple concurrent versions. the first response to any bug is "try upgrading"
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's only one version. the latest one.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: That's reasonable, what needs fixing might be the download link for this client package :S
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when I figure out what's going on with some peoples' comm log window placement I'll suggest that to Lasher
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but only after
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: That would be great :)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: logging off now
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: k, thanks again :) 
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Hmm this new version changes how my inventory displays
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: it displays the Id number for the items and the "Glowing" and "humming" flags is now just (G) and (H)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: The text wrapping seems a bit odd as well, think i need a slightly bigger main window now else the room description have just one word and the rest a blank line before more text on the next line
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: anyone noticed that aardwolf_tick_timer.xml plugin is not working well with the latest version of aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: is there a command line way to level-lock an exit, so I don't have to right click on it and all that fun happy stuff?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: kind of: mapper lockexit
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: ok thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that just brings up the exit level-locking dialog
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe in new version (newer than r1830) it accepts extra arguments 
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: I have a problem with me inventory, can someone help?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: lets hear it
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: If i type inventory or "i" I dont get a list like ussual, i get alot of white text with the items and numbers all together liek this (invdata)1829383472,GH, small face mask, 
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: but if I type inv ansi it looks like normal
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: tags inv off
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: dosen't help
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: hmm. strangeness.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Beneric, you probably are having an issue with Aardwolf's/Fiendish's aardwolf inventory serials plugin.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: are you using any inventory plug-ins?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Press CTRL SHIFT P is it enabled?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: No just the MUSHclient-
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The Mushclient has one in the folder - not sure if it's enabled or disabled by default.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type CTRL SHIFT P, if you see Aardwolf Inventory Serials in the list then that is likely the problem.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: I dissable it and now it is back to normal =)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You may want to post a bug note to fiendish, or report it on his github site.  Can you think of anything that changed recently that would cause it to mess up?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: No not really, the bigmap also failed at logup so i hade to reinstall, and it was after that the inventory broke.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Beneric has a bad prompt
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc swats Beneric's prompt on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm 99% guessing, but my advice is that Beneric should fix his prompt so that it ends properly
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: =h
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: And how does one do that, I just copied from guide on YT..
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: copy/paste what 'prompt data' says under Rawcolor Game Prompt
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "prompt data"...does Regular Game Prompt and Regular Battle Prompt both end in %c?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's possible for those to look like they end in %c without actually
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have %c 
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have %c@w @w
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for instance
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: not the battle one
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: ends %b
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: all prompts should end in either %c or %c@w
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I unfortunately can't stay. If y'all don't work this out message/email me
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: Do I have to change something?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should change your battle prompt to end in a %c
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so what you can do is copy your rawcolor battle prompt, then type the word "bprompt" and a space, paste the existing rawcolor battle prompt in, and type %c at the end of it, then hit "enter"...the battle prompt will probably end up looking something like [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mm %Xtnl %d %bMOB] %l %L>%c
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when you type "prompt data" again, it'll look like Rawcolor Battle Prompt : [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mm %Xtnl %d %bMOB] %l %L>%c
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: like this bprompt %h/%H Health %m/%M Mana %v/%V Moves - $%g Align %a %d Tnl:%X Quest:%q %c
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: lol I'm back on aard for the first time in a while, why might the client be saying a lot of abreviated information about channels instead of playing a sound, also giving me coords every time I move
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ok, I'm an idiot. I didn't get on using the package, but the normal mush I use for other muds.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. you'll definitely want thededicated aard mush.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: I have it. but it's been so long I'd forgotten I had a dedicated client for it lol
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: and I was wondering why things weren't working like they should lol
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: need help for a new scipt on mush, pst for more information, tps reward
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Mcgregor Tech: why page dont make sound with mush client? windows sound setting are at 50% volume. youtube etc makes sound nicely...
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: looking for new script on mush, Tps reward, PST for more info
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: looking for new script on mush, Tps reward, PST for more info
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: scope?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, because you need to outline what you want to do before I send you a tell to see if it's even worth it.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: exactly my point
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But he probably wants something he thinks only he should have and doesn't want the idea stolen by anyone else.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: or a bot :P
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: Arcidayne , true :p
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You'd have to pay me big in order to not share with everyone else. :p
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Send a note my way on what you want to do, though, and I'll give it some thought.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But as of now, I have to go to work.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: tech anyone know if/how to import scripts into blowtorch V2 ?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or even into the aardwolf version
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: unless it's written specifically for Blowtorch, I'm not sure they'll work. But if you have the script, I -believe- you just need to copy/paste it into the scripts box. I'm not sure though, I did all my Blowtorch coding specifically skirting around that feature.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i want to work on a pc with full keyboard then export it to my tablet
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so yes it will specifically be written for blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: if you write it in notepad or whatever, save it to an sd, directly to the tablet, or a cloud service, and then copy-paste it into the scripts, I think it would work, but that's the only way I can think of that might work. 
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: cause there's not really an 'import' option unless you're importing the entire xml file
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i don't mind working on xml files
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: because then it is sharable
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: how to make a button/icon in win10 that opens n links in tabs in one browser window?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: will there be added feature allowing to lock room from commandline? like "mapper lockexit n 200"
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: that would be oh so very nice.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've seen several times questions about how to lockexit without touching mouse
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can currently do 'mapper lockexit' which will bring up a selection dialog that can be navigated with arrow keys
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: adding mapper lockexit n 200 would also be doable
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. ok, I wasn't sure that dialog was accessible. cool.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I was not aware that you can navigate using arrows in that dialog
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can add accessibility features, but knowing what is and isn't accessible is difficult for me
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you encounter something that isn't accessible enough please let me know
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: totally understandable.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however commandline probably is more VI-friendly 
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I try not to speculate too much about what is or isn't good for someone else
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can go and add in optional arguments to lockexit though
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you consider adding "mapper titan clear Durthar" or something similar? that feature would be useful for me and also seems to be quite useful for Titan epic doers
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know anything about epics or what that command would do
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: give me info
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I've done titan 400 tiems and I dont know what that command would do either
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that would delete 100 rooms from mapper of known IDs
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: what's the point of that?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: randomly?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for titan it would be useful because you could: mapper delete durthar, then in epic: durthar is 38324, so othe players can just "mapper goto 38324" - no need to hunt
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: oh if you're able to re-map the entire thing every time
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I still don't understand
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Durthar is one of bosses in Titan area, it has subarea 10x10 (100 rooms) - connections are reset every run
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: while in epic you are transed by that boss to some random room in those 10x10 and you can return to boss to kill him, also he teleports self every 10 or 20% hp
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also time matters, usually after boss teleports all players split and start searching for that boss
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: once he is found they set a mob so other players can hunt that mob in case they got teleported
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now, as connections between rooms are fixed, and fight lasts 10-15 minutes - it is quite likely you will explore enough of that area
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you can get back to boss just by "mapper goto <boss room>"
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so the short answer is you have a 10x10 maze that you want to unmap
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. if it used the virtual area flag this would already be done.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if that code is accessible
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however, though this feature seems quite useful for me I am not too frequent Titan runner
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but Ralyn is, so Ralyn do you think it is useful or not worth doing it ?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this sounds like it could need a not very simple interface for grouping and ungrouping rooms
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think it is more like: for i = 38000 to 38100 : "delete room <room id>"
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is already "delete room" under right click
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: this seems like builders are trying to find ways to become un-mappable
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I still get MUSH main screen going black some instances, rare though but worrying, is it a GPU thing on win 7?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to be unmappable it would use the nomap room flag
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Exhale: show me
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: How do I show you? The text dissapear from 1sec to 5 seconds. Only wolf logo is vissual
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: once a week mayb
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: screenshot
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but indeed, I'm unkeen to add anything that would circumvent the desires of an epic area builder
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Wow. I will need to be very fast to take that screenshot when it happens out of the blue, but i will try
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hopefully the area could be made to use a randomized virtual sub-area if that is the goal
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that I think you have to talk to Lasher about
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper already has the ability to handle a 'virtual' flag on areas
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it automatically purges such areas upon exit to another area
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I just meant it feels like an arms race.  presumably the intent is to produce something "random" each time.  I guess I'm imposing my own opinion about the desire to avoid the mapper, since they could have just used nomap, like you said.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ok, another question - is there a way to mark some rooms immutable? (also titan)
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean Titan changes flags PK to no-PK on some rooms in void
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh, it changes flags? hmm
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so basically I want to mark them fixed so mapper won't remove exits
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: after I disabled my win 7 stock firewall, this popped up in Resource monitor ( scrcons.exe ), I immediatly activated my firewall, since it was using about 5megs of internet data, somehow scketchy
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mapper help search ignore mismatch
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I can manually connect those rooms, but after flags are changed - all links are removed
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not sure if it won't update on flag changes
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I will check that
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but that could be put in, I suppose
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: on the list of mapper feature requests I'd love, is it possible to expose a way to create user-defined "circles" on the bigmaps?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: circles?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for unmarked entrances?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: some already show up, like an outline around a 3x3 grid of rooms.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pup circle, mapper advance, kill mobs, mapper advance, ....
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: unmarked entrances, portal landing locations, that kind of thing.  like a poor man's heat map.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: could be used for lots of things, I guess.  my desire is to find a way to get a visual representation of portal coverage over landmass.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: portal coverage?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: portal coverage I dont understand, but the short answer is anything is possible
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Assume he means a room that is furthest from a portal will be darkest or something
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: like, say I have three portals, with different landing locations, relative to a bigmap.  I'd draw a square around each coordinate to highlight where they are.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'd use that map as data for buying another portal.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the bigmaps update themselves periodically I believe, so the circle measurements would need to be stored somewhere and draw them on the bigmap images when writing those images out
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that's about what I was thinking.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess with a hotspot grabbing keypresses, and a new table of marked locations it wouldn't be hard to add
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I figured there'd need to be additional data stored somewhere, possibly, for different colors, that kind of thing.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think this is the sort of thing that I would let someone else implement and merge when done
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not hard to do, but somewhat time consuming, and with potentially countless configuration options
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it seems like just the thing for an interested third party
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: was afraid you were going to say that. :)  Lua's not in my toolset yet.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone asked the other day about pages not beeping. there are multiple possible reasons, but one of them could be needing to upgrade
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Never underestimate the power of updating :)
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I had to add beeps to gmcp messages containing bell characters
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because they're in the message but mushclient doesn't interpret them automatically because they're out of band
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: special characters are processed only for things that are displayed to the screen
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you capture channels but don't echo them it wouldn't beep before I added a check for them
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that wasn't added until r1899
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone here know about peak detection in signals?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unfortunately "ignore exits mismatch here" does not help in Titans' Keep after change room flag no PK -> PK 
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: in mush how can i make the font in my communication log different?  i can only figure out how to change the main window
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: on the top "bar" where is says "com ... Log" right click
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are there no longer state files for mushclient plugins?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: never mind .. i appparently can't read
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kevinl Tech: i would like to ask how to change the background picture of mushclient thx!
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: there may not be many listening on that channel at the moment, Kveinl. But don't give up, eventually someone will say something :)
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you mean the grey "sripes"
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: anyone managed to configure their client and options to play it with a hand on number pad at all times except for like chatting?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: easy, walk with your right hand and type with your left
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: but the "k" button is to the right of where my left hand usually is
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: move your laft hand to the K
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: and the enter key is far to the right... (tho i noticed now i can use the numberpad enter key as well, this makes it easier)
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in short. Type the numpad keys with your right hand and all other keys with your left hand
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: The Aardwolf MUSHclient uses the numpad for movement.
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: So no configurations needed? i would want to rebind the  k button to like q or something
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: No other configurations needed. You can even bind some frequesntly used commands to the keys on the numpad that you dont use for movement
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: yeah i think i want "where" on a key someplace there
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why you need where when you can see the area and room on the mapper miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: good point, well i can see the level range and also players and i'm not so used to seeing the area on the map
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nvm I'm dumb
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you also use where for mobs
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is the top text the area or the room? :P just a habit thing i guess
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: guys i get a tfontt error from basts plugins any idea how to solve it?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: anyone available to assist me in troubleshooting basts plugins i get an error stating that tfontt is nil
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: bingo game could be doable with mush plugin. who's gonna take the job?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hwua will
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 1 2 3 not it
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if i'd do it, i'd be botchecked each day. i must hide my awesome scripting skills
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Pay me 100 tps, and I'll do it.
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: How about Keno?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pachinko. That's what we need, pachinko.
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: abelinc!
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I missed you
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Pachinko doesn't seem very doable.
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: abelinc is doable
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: If you say so :P
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: first-hand experience
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why wouldn't pachinko be doable?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one could even do pachinko in-game as mobprogs
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Well, it would be doable from a programming perspective.  From my own view though, it's really all the noise, bright lights, and animations that make pachinko so appealing.
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: agreed, but you could do that too
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: make me a fidget spinner mobprog
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the only thing that can't be done is sleep coroutines for shorter periods than 1 second. but now that I think about it, I wonder if you couldn't have a pool of coroutines that each sleep for a second but start running at fractional offsets...
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Is there a way to get the Aardwolf MUSHclient to automatically enter my username and password?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: on connect?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Triggers
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Should be in the options somewhere, I'm sure there are fields you just fill in?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Alt + enter, then on the left, "Connecting"
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: What option for Connect?  MXP?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: No idea. Try them out
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Diku-style works :)  Thanks everyone!
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Ah yes, all coming back to me now :)
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ive a bit problem with handheld portal when i use xrt to a new area, it wont swap back. So is there anything with mapper bounceportal or?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: make sure the alias you used to create the portal in mapper portal <port alias> is correct
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: its right, i just need to swtich from lower lvl portal to higher lvl portal to hold, i cant find it where i can switch it
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: mapper portallevel <ind> <lvl> that one?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Got a fright today, PC didnt want to boot into EUFI, needed to pull battery.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: so now it works without the battery?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No, I left it out for like 5 min before inserting it again.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Guess it was the usb legacy compatiblt patch I toggled a few weeks ago.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: file>global preferences - General Tab. Check F1,F6 are macros
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: sry for miss channel, thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: okay works now, thx :)
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: something weird happened to my blowtorch client... it reset itself and now it works perfectly! who ever hacked my phone and did this is an awesome person,thanks yall
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: nice!! do you have plugins on blowtorch or just the chat?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to remove the numbers next to item in inventory=
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what numbers?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: i dont know. it just reset itself and now it looks like i have bigger screen and it doesnt crash when i export settings. also doesnt freeze up my notification bar after i rotate the screen
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Tryllus, press CTRL+SHIFT+P and remove "aard_inventory_serials"
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ah that was it
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: where do you get the chat plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: theres a github on google . i forget the creator 
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: theres some other plugins that help . but mostly only work on tablets. i hsve auto hunt
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If you want the chat plugins, i'd "finger fiendish" and download that package.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it has all the fancy aard-specific scripts already.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: he has blowtorch plugins?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Oh crap, didn't read back far enough
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Here's what you want: https://github.com/blockda/aardwolf_plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: thanks cheez!
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: blockda that was it! the creators of blowtorch used to hsve forums and links but the site is no longer available. so blowtorch is dying :(
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: as long as i can leech on tier0 gqs till i get a pc,im cool
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: ive tried playing on pc i cant seem to grt used to it after starting on the phone :/
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I only use my phone to SSH into my PC to use my real client :P
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: pc is the bomb. luckily i backed up mapper. you could finish a whole mort and alot of cps with one hand
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i guess id need to learn those things loke mapper . is there a wiki i could look up
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: im having trouble making a simple alias to get my portal equip, use amd then put away again. ive seperated the commands with semicolon but cant get it to anything past getting the portal out
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: use double semicolons.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: One on each line.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So if you're using a mudside alias, you can't pass parameters to it if it contains ;s
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: so ;get;
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: are you allowed to put an alias in an alias
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: o i see
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Not mudside at least.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: not mudside
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: so its fine on my side? sweet
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And in clients you'll usually have to tell it to re-evaluate
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: has be double or it wont output
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Are you using mush?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: blowtorch. it would be an mudside alias
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Why? BT has aliases
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: oh??
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: yeah and you only need to us one semi colon on it. tap the top right screen and look for 'aliases'
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=aliases
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: guess idk how to use the alias on bt
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: See above
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: im pretty sure that site is no longer 
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I just went to it to get that url...
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arathon SMACKS Varrion upside the head, wonder what he did.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: huh. everytime i try to go it says unavailablr
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Assuming just makes an ass out of you and you alone :P
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: which network provider you using?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That shouldn't matter. It's a google DNS
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: it worked with me
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: how do i make a gq trigger. i dont wanna miss gqs
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: my bad. its a bit confusing lol 
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Match on ==> Global Quest: Global quest # * has been declared for levels * to *
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Then you need to check if %2 > @level > %3
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Actually you may not need to check that, not sure if you see that message if you're out of range.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: i only see gqs available to me
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: cheezburger=google
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: thanks again!
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thanks cheez figured it out
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: is anyone available to help me troubleshoot a plugin from Bast i get a weird font error on the latest mush client
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: pastebin the error
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: this is what i get when loading bast_hunt https://pastebin.com/qkcHdhqz
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is it possible to send a wall of text to somebody using the mushclient / aardworlf client?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: god, I hope not
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: haha, i just want to see what item he is talking about and want the full identify screen
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: put it in a note
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: good idea, thx
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Feranesa: As best I can tell, it's just missing a font file somewhere. I'd re-install bast over the MUSH install
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: hmm thanks for looking, too bad it doens't report which font file is missing
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: need info, in mush how to obtain my current level?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm just guessing here, but the "addfont" function I'm assuming is supposed to populate the 'tfontt' variable, but for some reason isn't.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nao: You'd need to pull it out of the GMCP info
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I want to buy and install a TV card next week, in my motherboard book it shows  1 PCI express 2.0 times 26 mode. And 1 PCI express 2.o slot. obviosly the 16 times one is for my GPU, but when i look into the case the other pci slot is only like 2centimeters, is this normal?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: thx Cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Then it's a PCIE 1x?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-pci-express/4/
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I think so, but is the 2cm in length normal for such a slot? its worryinh e
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: TV cards usually need a x8 slot IIRC
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Maybe not.. the Elgato apparently uses a PCI x1
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: but some like the Geforce210 use a x16
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nods, perhaps i can try an USB tc card if all else fails, but its a 2016 MB so i dont know.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Could always do something like: http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun/hdhomerun/
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: bah, that link broke
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://www.silicondust.com/
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Will have to take my MB manual to the PC shop to make sure prior the purchase. all I want to do is to record television programmes onto PC
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale nods at No Offense Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Heh, the Geforce 710 isnt that bad, its quite a beast for old games like 200 to 2009
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: MSI low profile 710, it replaced the 720 in it latest build in 2016
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: somehow i messed up with tags, now im stuck with spells tags, and ive typed tags spellups off and it still shows spell tags there, how to get rid of them?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Mush turns those on at startup
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Whatever script was originally hiding them is potentially broken
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: it was fine until i retiered
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Log off and log back on
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: the tags are stuck, i get spellup tags in middle of fight
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Again, MUSH turns those on.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The issue is that you see them, not that they're on
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: normally a script hides them.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes i see them and i want to get rid of them
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You potentially disabled a script, or it crashed and deactived itself
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Can you have two keybaords plugged at the same time?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: all I can say is that  iwas looking at tags and decided to disable some of it
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: then it got screwed up
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can have two keyboards plugged in at the same time...
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, disabling the tags was likely what caused the plugin to screw up
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can have as many keyboars as you want...
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at No Offense Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is it trigger or alies that reacts to game text i haven't inputted?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: triggers
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: alias is about what you type, trigger is about what the game displays
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i cannot get triggers to work
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: nvm, worked now
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: how would i go about making a trigfer for spellup?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: too many possible messages
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: finger bast, on the website there is a spellup plugin, iirc. start from there
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'd agree with Liber. No need to recreate the wheel, as it's been done very well already.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But it's also one of the most tedious scripts to write initially
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not necessarily. Can just trigger off {affoff} and check for state and just do spellup.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Bast's allows for some customization.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well, there's the queueing of affoffs, there's the knowing of your combat state, etc
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Only need to be concerned with one message.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't need to queue for affoff.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You do if you're in combat :P
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or you're just going to spam spellup spells at the mo
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mob*
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: spellup plugins wont work for blowtorch, was gonna stumble my way into creating triggers
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Then you run into special cases like prot good/evil :P
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Fair enough. I misunderstood you to mean putting the spells collectively into its own queue rather than waiting for combat end.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There is a spellup plugin for blowtorch and it works fine.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: whaaaaaat
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: github.com/blockda
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Specifically: https://github.com/blockda/aardwolf_plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: but doesnt that require a huge package that okly works on tablet?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That I couldn't tell you
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm just going off what people have told me
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i dont even see a spellup plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: oh thats fun and definitely won't get me slaughtered in the future. Apparently my mapper has decided anything in hell is now in ninehells
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I just updated to the most recent version of MUSH. Hyperlinks in the main output window are now shown as underlined even when the mouse isnt hovered. Anyone know how to disable that? Already tried the MXP/Pueblo setting.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: are you icecool?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Um, I wish?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: you do?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disble Hyperlink_URL2 plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that very well could be it. I just tried and the client auto-reinstalled it
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: dumb question: how do I change screen orientation in Windows 7 if I can't do Ctrl+Alt+Arrow?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: rotate your screen 90 degrees physically
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Right-click the desktop?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: alternatively you could cock your head to the side, however your eyeballs may circumvent that workaround
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm working on computers remotely and I somehow accidentally did Ctrl+Alt+Left and it worked but now it's not letting me set it back :(
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wooooo
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you telling me you can't read the +fried or +cheese button cause its sideways?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: +fries*
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I had to read that like 3 minutes to understand it
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well im glad you did
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it was a stretch but
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: remotely working on cash registers at a fast food place
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Bishoujo Raded.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i could do that part-time while pupping, it would be epic
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: please stop talking about icecool on this channel
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: maybe check 'displayswitch.exe', I"m not really sure
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded is agreeing with that NotGod Pleiades person again...
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I got it sorted out :p
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: we're just memeing now
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: In mushclient, is there a way to change the fonts?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: alt + 5
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or game -> configure -> output
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Cool!  Thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: is there a way to change the font in the communications window?  I can only change it a certain amount.  It says the font is not available.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: mouse, right click -> change font
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: I've done that Enei but i'm trying to change it to calibre 14 and it won't let me.  Says it's not available.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: If I move my tethered phone connectio0n to pc just 30 cm, the signal boosts, why is that?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I guess its the smoked filled air that prevents the signal from geting through
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Can i make an alias/macro that sends commands to script and to world?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: in mushclient when creating an alias, say i want to leave something out for now, can i comment a line out?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: /-
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: sorry --
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Good god tt, stop that. --> "--[ this is a comment  --]"
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: so it's --[  ]--  ?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: --[ that is not a comment ]--
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Technically it is
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: because -- is a single line comment
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: multiline is --[[ --]]
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I guess technically the second set of "--" isn't needed. --[[ This is 
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I guess technically the second set of "--" isn't needed. --[[ This is \n A mutliline \n Comment ]]
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: thought i tried "-- comment--"  without the quotes and it didn't seem to work.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: TIL tt++ actually parses \n as a newline
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: giggle
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: what is the best spell up plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: I use winkle's and it works fine
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: if you have an alias set up to send to script, what the syntax to have it call to a plugin? Like i want to make an alias to door to a mob then mapper goto a room?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: u can just set the alias to execute instead of send to world and call them both in a row
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: oo ok ill try that
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: c door %1 next line mapper goto xyz
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: lol. How do you get to be familliar with all that stuff anyway. I've been back and forth through the mush manual and it still speaks greek to me.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that may not work because the mapper may try to run before you finish door'ing to the mob
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah Durel is right, thought about that after I said it
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you probably want a trigger to confirm that you are at the mob and then run the mapper command
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: or you could cheat and just add a delay before running the mapper :P
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ah yeah ok, can u put a pause in place maybe?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: mapper and mapper extender both like to query the database without necessarily waiting for mud commands
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ahh a delay
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: syntax for delay?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I think a door might fail (which would mean broken speedwalk), but nothing will get executed before the spell either succeded or failed
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd recommand using the wait package that comes with aardclient.  The syntax there would be wait.time(someNumberOfSeconds)
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: alternatively u can just rely on mapper extender completely
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: set an alias to door to mobname, then use the mapper portal to add the alias to that room destination
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but that might cause you some grief during global quests
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I just tested that: not only doorway gets executed, but the server also waits the cooldown time for doorway
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: so no delay needed for that
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ok cool, now for the next thing i want to do
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: also, no need to make an alias that will door AND move to a mapper room
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: ugh why do I keep forgetting doorway is such a great way to move around the mud
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: i was to disablespellup in winkles, cancel on myself, re-enable winklesspellup, then call sharptrackers sps command
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: map the doorway (with the above limitations) as a portal or something, and the mapper will include that in the walk
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah portal should be easiest
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: might cause some rt instead of xrt on global quests, but that should be tolerable
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it depends where the target is
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: can u use doorway at all during a GQ?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you put it on a continent room, just before the area entry, it won't break even during gqs
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: or am I thinking gate that gets shutdown
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: ahh good to know
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: actually, that might need checking
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I thought the spell itself got shut down during GQ
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: during quests door is completely useless. during gqs, I'm not sure (I'd say not, but I never used it during gqs anyway) :)
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: a GQ in my lvl range just came up, I can probably test it
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: try to door a target in a completely unrelated area. door 'yellow brick' for example
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: woo hoo, I am the only person I have a chance of winning
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: shutdown during gq
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: can you have mush delay before sending the next command no matter what it is in an alias? like if you no matter what wanted it to send gossip hello, then wait 5 seconds send gossip shut up newb
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You could.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: does anyone know how to take a screen shot on your computor screen?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're using Windows, just use the snipping tool
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That said, pressing Print Screen button will take a snapshot of the current desktop and put it in the clipboard for pasting into something else. (ms paint is common)
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I've written quite a bit of lua code in scripts but I haven't used plug-ins much yet and I'd like to move my code over to plug-ins instead.  Which "OnPluginXXX()" function can I call for my init code that loads my data?  OnPluginInstall looks like a one-type thing when the plug-in is first installed.  OnPluginConnect is called very early -- even before GMCP is enabled.  Am I missing some function?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: this is for mushclient by the way...should have mentioned that :)
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think that issue plagues a lot of plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use a function to check for when the gmcp data is loaded that i want (timer), then it initializes or continues etc
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I could do something evil like add a timer in OnPluginConnect and then do the real init a few seconds later...but that feels a little evil
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its worse if you actually want gmcp data, and its not ready yet
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just listen for broadcasts?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I needed to add timers and periodically keep checking to see if GMCP is up.  I was hoping plug-ins had a solution to that
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: on FM or AM?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: UHF
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, does GMCP broadcast when it is alive?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Look at how the group monitor plugin receives data
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I could listen for that
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, thanks for the suggestion.  I'll look into that.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can also check the 'state' field of char.status
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if I check the GMCP state before it is ready, it bombs :)
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if im not mistaken, you can pull gmcp from a plugin even if not connected.  so reconnects and the like wont play well.  but if you just want 1 specific gmcp table you'll be fine with broadcast
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its just stored in gmcphandler and doesnt clear out when disconnect right?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Taking a step back...my concern isn't specifically about GMCP.  That's just one symptom.  I'm looking for a solution so that I know when it is "safe" for me to init my plug-in.  I could wait until I see a GMCP broadcast and trigger off of that.  Is there a better general solution?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It depends on what initialization needs doing, I guess.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you're not looking to pull "online" data then just put it in the code or a main function and call that at the end of the script
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: onplugininstall is called when installed or when mush starts
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, I think I have a better understanding now.  You've given me several things to consider and experiment with.  Thanks everyone!
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: I've got a couple probably dumb questions about the Aard client.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're in luck, we've got a lot of dumb answers.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Just ask them, don't make a statement about them.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: How do I save the locations of all of the windows? I have them where I want them, and if I close and reopen, they go back to the default locations
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And dumb answerers...
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you don't. next.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version do you have? Type 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: I just updated, r1930
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: They should stay where they were.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh sorry i read that wrong
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, they shouldn't move around
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Ok, maybe it was just because my computer crashed
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Where do you have MUSH saved?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's possible.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh, yeah, that's definitely a possibility. Lots of plugins don't save state right away
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Since I switched to aardclient, I don't see the GQ notifications either in the comm window or the main window
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Check your echos list.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Turn them on. Right -click the comm long, check "Other information"
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Right-click on comm log.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Ah...Other info..nice, thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Alright, I think that's it for now. Thanks all!
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: How do I change the font size in the windows of MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Alt-5, click "Font"
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Make sure you pick a fixed-width font, or displays like 'whois' and 'score' will be messed up. (I like Lucida Console)
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Consolas FTW!!
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use whatever floats your boat, I'm not going to get militant about a damn font :D
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I will
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Courier New or setwanted
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Raded is already an outlaw.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I wonder how difficult it is to install 2 led side pannel fans.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Going to check the google picture instructions =)
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: I opened mushclient after my computer updated windows and I lost all plugins, aliases and mapper, how to gte them back?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you open it from a shortcut, or from opening up its folder?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: from folder, mushclient icon, should i use aardwolf icon instead of mushclient icon?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's the right one...I was hoping that maybe a shortcut got "confused" and was opening up a different MUSHclient folder
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: no, so theres no way to reload the search & destroy context as well mapper?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D doesn't really have content...it just uses the mapper
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> MUD name and IP address...make sure that the World Name is "Aardwolf"
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ys its aardwolf - aardmud.org:23
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ive aliased bunches of portals into mapper
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: and theres no mapper portal on:(
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are other things like the comm log window still there, and it's really just mapper stuff that's messed up?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: the regular aardwolf plugins from fiendish is there, only that winkles script is gone
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: so I had to reload winkles script, then i realized i dont have any alias/mapper 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is game -> configure -> aliases empty?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes totally empty
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i had like 150 aliases there
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: do you see another aardwolf.mcl somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so here's my plan...1) quit MUSHclient, and make a Windows file copy of the folder
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: aardwolf.mcl?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: aardwolf.mcl is in the next folder - world under mapper
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2) open up MUSHclient again, then in the other folder, open up worlds\Aardwolf.mcl in a text editor
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to open that aadwolf.mcl in text?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: right click, open with
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another way is to open up Notepad, then just drag the file into the middle of the blank Notepad page
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yeah i opened it
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i looked through, the keypad is there, alias/triggers have nothing in there
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, scroll down that to see if your aliases are there
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: and it was updated last night with nothing inside
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You go, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't suppose you ever make backups?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: no i started using mushclient like last monday
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you made 150 aliases?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i did 1 tier in few days
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my guess is that the .mcl file and your database file both because corrupted because MUSHclient was open when Windows update rebooted your computer...then the next time you started MUSHclient, it freaked out reading the .mcl file and basically wrote a clean one with the parts it could understand
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err became
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i think its what happened
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper database is the easier one, because Fiendish does automatic backups of that
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the MUSHclient folder, there's a db_backups folder
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: should really petition fiendish to make backups of the mcl file... lots of people seem to lose stuff when updating or so on
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: giggle, I just finished reading Starling's rant about Fiendish on the ideas board (waaay backed up)
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: it just updadted 13:27 and its like 25 mins ago and i believe it already updated to empty one
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: which note is that abelinc
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: theres none on mapper cexits, portals
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so go to the next-older one
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: where do i find the older one? I dont have any more backups of it
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit MUSHclient, copy the file to the root MUSHclient folder and name it Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, it might've not gotten to another backup window, since you're pretty new to it...it'll usually have .db.Backup_Automatic, .db.Backup_Automatic_old, .db.Backup_Automatic_older, .db.Backup_Automatic_olderer
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ouch...you're sure that you don't have a different MUSHclient folder that you were using when you made all this stuff?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: didn't open mushclient from the zip file did you? :P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i opened mushclient and unpacked them into its own folder, i made sure that I dont have it in zip folder
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: then i have opened/closed it few times
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: and it was working fine
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: until just now
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: close mushclient to rename the aardwolf-backup file to aardwolf.db then open mush?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: still no alias up
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, this wouldn't help the aliases, just hopefully bring back some of the mapper stuff
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: pretty sure aliases are stored in aardwolf.mcl so you're boned there.  aardwolf.db is just the mapper
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: omg, guess ill do it all over
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I feel your pain, my mush just crashed and I lost everything too. 5 years worht of aliases and triggers. 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you create a new plugin last night using the plugin wizard?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i never used wizard
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not a single backup in 5 years?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i was frusturated with spellup plugin last night that i removed it
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that'll teach you to make backups :P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: this is what I get for updating my dropbox and not double checking my mushclient backup was still there. I accidently deleted it last week. FML. 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dropbox keeps backups
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: now i feel a bit better, shae
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oooooo wehre??? 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Mush is only thing I am religous about backing up
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: you're welcome!
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: how do I access dropbox backups? 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: guess ill do the cp all to 200 to update all mapper and portals
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the web interface lets you go back revisions
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tryllus: if you do "mapper showroom 12345", does that room show up?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes it shows - along river angor
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: its only basic world/big map room yes but not area room
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, reason I ask is I wa wondering if the mapper corruption took you to a point which is worse than "from scratch"...i.e. if the rooms that Fiendish ships with it were also gone
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shae: in dropbox's web interface, there's a "Show deleted files" link on the right-hand side, as well as when you click the checkbox for an item in the web interface, there's a "Version history" link on the right-hand side
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: thanks ill check it out 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: apparently ive several areas mapped, but not all areas
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: What's the site with Bast's plug-ins?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast ;-)
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Does he like that?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: what's the tick timer script called? 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: aardwolf_tick_timer
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: ah! thank you yes found it
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: to make backup of all aliases - save the world - is it right one?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: can mushclient set a variable or alias from the command line?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: any hint on how? i've found some functions but they're not parsed by the mushclient itself
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: not from the command line, anyway
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Anyone else have issues with MIMO killing the wifi on a netgear modem/router combo?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll try pouring another cup of water on the modem... see if that does anything =P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Putting it in the freezer is always a good last ditch effort
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: do I freeze it before or after the cup-o-water?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: lol you guys are awful
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: About three steps ahead of putting it on the fence and using a 12 gauge
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite bats his eyelashes innocently at Zarra.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Wut?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite enthusiastically high-fives Oak Tender Arnica!
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: you could call Tech Support - rofl
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: It's out of warranty... they just tell me to kick rocks :(
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Do not follow that advice.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: too late... already wearing the medical boot :(
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Darn. Because I could do that and never register the damage
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite comforts Oak Tender Arnica.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: So. Let us fix it. What precisely is the issue?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm having some plugin initialization difficulties with GMCP.  Is there a method to know when the GMCP plugin is configured and running?  I can watch for a GMCP broadcast, but that could take up to 30 seconds and I hate to delay my initialization that long.  If GMCP isn't initialized, it bombs if I call the gmcp() function.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I flushed my hardrive down the toilet and now my computer stopped working
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I can check if the GMCP plugin is installed, but that isn't sufficient because it may be installed but not initialized
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Hammers work for that, and do not involve plumber's butts
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Durel, there's a command to force a gmcp update I think... I'd have to rip my plugin apart to get it for you... that'll cost you a TP =P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: You are using LUA, or what?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: can I have a fireman fix it?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yep, I'm using lua with mushclient -- sorry, should have mentioned that :P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: that job's easy... a shirtless fireman will have no problem axing your toilet to pieces to get your hard drive.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: You have in the plugin require "gmcphelper" and require "var"?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: @Durel: I initialize gmcp and then force a GMCP update to avoid the error that you're encountering.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I am requiring "gmcphelper" but I'm not requiring "var".  I wasn't familiar with that one
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, that's good to know.  I'll check into forcing the update and then delaying my initialization until I have confirmation from GMCP that it is alive
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I was hoping for a cleaner more general solution though...something like a GetPluginInfo option that tell me that a plugin is initialized.  Oh well :)
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: And you look for the GMCP handler with something like :    if (id == '3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264') then
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I have the code to detect a GMCP broadcast and that works fine
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I like that you've opted to check into that yourself instead of paying me a TP to rip my code up and give it to you. That's hard to find nowadays.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite fluffles Durel's fur mercilessly.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, I'm a bit sadistic that way :P  I'd rather play around and learn it myself
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Yes! Learn from modifying examples
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: But I think you mean masochistic
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: LOL, yes masochistic, not sadistic
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: unless you keep posting to tech when you don't get it. lol
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: strangling kittens will earn you the sadistic label...
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: A sadist and a masochist are walking down the street.  The masochist says "hurt me".  The sadist says "NO!" :P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I have no kittens left
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: well then... you've earned your label.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: we're on fire here... next tech issue!
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: A sadist and a masochist are walking down the street. The sadist says Obey Me. The Masochist says No
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: OK, then. esxi/wmware keeps disconnecting sessions that are idle for more than a few minutes. How to resolve?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: did you try turning it on/off?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I did
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: wmware or vmware?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: vmware of course, silly
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: there has to be a setting for the idle timeout.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: next tech test - With RHEL 7.3 getpwuid fails, returns NULL. Comments?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: user/password combo incorrect?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Two fails. Next Tech question.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Oak Tender Arnica.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: whats the best android antivirus for you?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: Hi .. I just did my remort and back to low levels. I find that my Bast Spellup doesn't work. It says I have not learned a spell, but it will be added anyway, it will not be cast until practised. But I have 85% on the spell.
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: any idea?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you restarted mush after remorting ?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: nope.
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: .. Ok .. I go restart. I didn't know I have to do that. LOL
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or try reloading Bast's plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: ok .. I will try. Thanks Trachx
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I *guess* that is just remember previous state
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: is there a way to assign movement to the arrow keys?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you need arrows ? or numpad is enought ?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: because of the way i play, the numpad serves best for me as aliases
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: I'm somewhat familiar with MUDclients, but have been away from them for a while
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need a plugin for that
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: know of any by any chance?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to write one (pretty simple)
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then just add in its body: Accelerator ("Up", "look"); , Accelerator ("Left", "*smile"); 
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also you need to turn off up-arrow history : Game -> Configure -> Commands -> Keyboard preferences -> up arrow traverse history
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or just execute something like this: \\\Accelerator("Left", "say hello");
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: ok. 'I'm off to find a guide - a wonderful guide of OZ'
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just type that accelerator thing starting with \\\
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then press left arrow
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: lol, ok, will do. thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also use \\\Accelerator ("Right", "tech it's working!");
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: \\\ is script prefix, set in game->configure->scripting, it allows immediate execution whatever is after \\\
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so either just write a simple plugin with 4 accelerators Left/Right/Up/Down or just copy paste every time you need to use that
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you could also define an alias in mush with send to script
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however it is quite hard to correct text you've entered
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean if you type and want to use left arrow to move back to previous character - it works then as accelerator, so will probably send "west" or whatever you accelerate with this
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: good point. I think i had a better idea
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: just gonna use wasd
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: why does my inventory show numbers like this: (M)(G)(H) Monkey Bone  [1853282228]<--this one  (159)
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its owned?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: remove aardwolf_inventory_serials plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thats what causes id number to show up
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: ahh it's a plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DA Monster Tryllus nods at Murazor.
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: any other use for that plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: no its for id serial numbers
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i removed it myself so
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: why does my putor get hot when im charging the battery?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: hi everybody 
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: just boguht my first mac and can't play aard wolf on it any solutions
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: https://www.winehq.org/
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you looked at wine for mac?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: sorry vi payer here do u mena windows
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: wine is a piece of software that will allow you to run windows software on mac or linuc machines
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Wine can be installed on a Mac, and it will enable you to run some windows applications on a mac, like mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: oka you spell it whin right?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: there are also many linux-based clients that would run natively, such as tinyfugue (what I'm using) and tintin++
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: wine, like wine you drink:)
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: but if you want to maintain the same mush-gui, then Wine is a good suggestion
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay i will look it up thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I play using MUSHClient, with a significant number of plugins, including my own. Recommendations for a keyboarded tablet that can do this?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Or one that can seamlessly RDP to my PC?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: half joking-half seriou: I'm pretty sure surface pro covers both scenarios :)
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I was afraid of that. lol
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: well, you can remote desktop with pretty much any tablet
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: It has not worked so well with my wife's iPad
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: but that would be a huge waste, for muding, considering the RDP data transfers compared to mud communication
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: pound not doing too well
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: sorry, but I don't consider ipad a tablet :D or mobile iOS an operating system :p
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Concur
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: What success with Android based tablets and RDP?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you can find windows 10 home tablets (atom based) with very decent prices
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I have no idea about build quality, all my tablet experiences were rather shitty from that perspective
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: one of the reasons I love my Ativ notebook :)
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Holy Cow, you can spend $3K on a Surface? Insane
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I am a $500 kind of guy, and I expect extreme performance for my $
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: pro3 is the previous generation. I think it goes for ~700 bucks around here, taxes included
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: keyboard sucks though, I think
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and one USB port?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I'm still waiting for the phone that'll replace my pc, with docks at home and at work
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades grins evilly at Liber.
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: can you have an alias call to another alias?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pisces Tech: Not mud-side, no.
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: in mush?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: use, change send to to execute
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oops  mean yes, fingers on strike
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Firesky Tech: Does the community haev a sound package for game? I notice mushclient has a option to add.
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: someone made a package before, it's probably floating around somewhere on google
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: finger winklewinkle, he has a sound package + script
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Firesky Tech: Yes, looking into it now. It would really fun to have it.
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Firesky Tech: Shaelynne Thanks. I will.
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: on mushclient Is there a way to have two different communtication windows?
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: look at https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Communication-log-window
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Thanks Kippe
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: it is somewhere near the bottom
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Found it Kippe!  I forgot I needed to generate an unique key.  Thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there an easy way to get your username programatically in mushclient?  Yes, I could use "whois self" or "score" and pull out the info, but then you need to mess with pre-titles.  I'm hoping that there is some other command I'm missing.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What for?
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: there is a login option somehwere in there i did mine
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm working on a plugin and I have different state based on your character.  I want to load the appropriate saved data based on which character is logged in.
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well, you can capture that when logging in
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You can also probably get that thru gmcp, but I do not have the code for that, from the top of my head
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Doh!  Of course.  GMCP.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I can't believe I didn't think about that.  I fought with GMCP all day Saturday :P
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Also maybe get it from 'finger'
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, what I want is in char.base of GMCP.  Thanks everyone!
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: any one that can please help me with a modify button on blowtorch? 
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: abelinc
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: all  though he's lil dickish but may help
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thanks :) 
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: welcome to tech, khaleesi!
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: hey pizza bitch whats up
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: pizza ftw
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: why dont u swing on over to my neighborhood so i can kick yo asz
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: what neighborhood?
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: where i live
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I can honestly say no, I've never wished for a Java mud client.
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: need a html5 client with colors
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: any idea how you override a mushclient alias?  For example, if "recall" is aliased to 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: aliased to "cast word of recall" in mushclient how to use the recall command without disabling said alias?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: I could have sworn there was a way to do it and it was something like ".recall"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: how do i use the alias inputs in mushclient  as part of the output as well?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: newbie say i make an alias input with this input "update *" and output "remove *" "keep *" "wear *", i want to use the input wildcard to do stuff with it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: sorry i have bad habit of always writing newbie when i chat lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blannor Tech: sounds like you want a variable, dont know if mushclient supports them though
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i see options for variables, but there is no example of using one on the page i'm looking at with trigger examples, maybe i'll have to look up alias then
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: anyone have wifi problems after latest windows 10 update in july-ish (forced upon me)? i can't reach a bunch of websites randomly and connection junks out pretty frequently if i try to surf web. strangely, if I just mud it seems pretty stable
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: no. I'm not encountering any issues like that. I'm using win 10 here. could it be your router, perhaps?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: nope, wifi has been fine for me both on creators updated and recent updates and even fast track updates. Try re-installing the wifi driver or test on another computer/device
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: thanks will try and reinstall driver
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: which versions of Win 10
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: it's even hanging up my browsers, can't get them to close etc
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: windows 10 home 64 bit
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: only issue I have on 1 computer with win 10 is that MS Edge is crashy as heck. Chrome, Vivaldi, etc work fine though so no real loss there :p
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Murazor's Win10 may be different to Torkin's Win10
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I'm running Pro 64bit
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yep, the "Home Win10" may be a piece of crap compared to the "Pro Win10"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: they run the exact same kernel, upgrade path, drivers, etc.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: who knows if there's any real difference under the hood though.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: also the users of "Pro Win10" are more likely using hardware that Win10 likes, as different to the hardware used by "Home Win10" users
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: in mushclient is there a wait or pause that can be inserted into a trigger or alias?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: If you set your output to script and program your trigger or alias in lua. You definitely can. No idea with normal output
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: so far I haven't done that as its a simple movement, but the mapper alias is processing before the check finishes so its always failing to move.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: there is a wait command for cexits and checking cexits
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: yeah, for cexit you can use wait(time_in_seconds)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah, I have used that one.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: and it's not waiting?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: for that it does
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: need the wait for where something is/run to it/attack it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: yeah, I think you'll have to go into scripting for that. Atleast thats how I do it. I don't think there is a wait command for normal output.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: and thats fair, I kind of figured that but wanted to double check
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: just trying to get lazy on xping and get it down to a keystroke per mob
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: in that case, please note that having run commands and a kill command in the same alias (or trigger, or cexit....) is agains policies...
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: well I guess that makes it easier then
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Just Bought a Geforce 1080 OC :DDDDDD
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: overkill!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: 4K aardwolf =DDD
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: smile Wire
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: or preparing for destiny 2
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: costly or cheap
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Why cant I drag Mush windows and plugins past middle to right of screen on 1080P yhough?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: you mean on two monitors?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Running desktop prtformance rating atm, its syill on default with my 1050, nope one 40 inch tv
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: omfg, it shows 2.1 in pc aera rating???
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: aero
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: drivers probably
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Let me check >_<
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Every thing is supe slow when i drag it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a smaller 1080p monitor is better, may look at whole screen without turning head to look side to side
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: agreed I don't do FPS on bigger than 20 inch screen :D
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: - 5
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: - 5
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: - h5
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: -6
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: lmao Im so happy, I installed the Gigabyte OC Guru II and bypassd the drives, how could i missed that! its fine now, and first game I entered is aard obviously lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Also purchased a backlit Scorpin rainbow colour gaming keyaord, so sweet. And an expensive D-link 4g dongle. Life is good =)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Well not expensive dobgle, but the best they have
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: My internet is so fast as a lamborghine =)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jus Tech: 300 kb/s ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: OK, I get 7.9 ratingnow ehn i run win 7 performance check
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: btw Kallaz, 40 inch is just right for 1080p gaming on my 1080 OC, I stil need to play a game to check its performance, but i think i can play any game at that low 1080p max detail and anti analising with no problem at 150 fps
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: IS kiddy =)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I switched to edge aka 2G connection atm, bcause is a matter of seconds my internet hogged about 50megs of updates >_M<
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Mostly due to geforce stuff, grr
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: 40 inch is great, I just like smaller for FPS so I can see the whole screen without moving
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Kallaz - Nods If you sit about 1.5 meters from the screen its just OK, I mean the distance from your eyeballs
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im using atm New cpurier size 12 as a font here
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah my controller and headset both keep me closer than that, and I haven't done PC gaming in a while but that used to be <18 inches
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: so in the last 10  minutes i only used 10k kbs, whee
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I only bought 200megs of data today, so that 50megs made a dent, next up I wann buy satelite internet with ulim ca
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I deleted that Geforece Experience that hogged data. I just wished win firewall wasnt so lame, it let connections through
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: OK, back to aard gaming, I can test my pc games out later when i tiers =)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: ty all
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Edge aka 2G is pretty fast imo, im sticking with it for a few days, henche im scared when i switch to 3g or lte it may depelte all my data, and if that happens at night and didnt but more data, im screwred
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a lag with satellite internet
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: latency*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a latency lag with satellite internet
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Latency != lag
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Latency is time to response, lag is overburdened servers
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Bought a new geforce 1080 OC and a Neon LED gaming keyboard and a super fast internet dongle =))
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: oops miss
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: lag is any unwanted delay
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And there's ALWAYS more latency using a donle vs a hard wired connection.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Lag is minor prolly with satelite... You can still download uncapped
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Latency is NOT minor :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Depends on weather
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: you mean ping :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ping google, it'll be massively slower than anyone else's response time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ping == latency
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: huge latency in fps games with others - you sitting deadmeat duck 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Your ping is a direct representation of your latency
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale drops to the floor and hails No Offense Cheezburger!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nah oall fps games
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yes, all FPS games
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: not all
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Any reactionary game. Rocket LEague, Overwatch, PUBG, etc
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No dude, you can play Counter strike 1.6 on and 3g dongle lag free
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: As someone world ranked in RL, i can tell you for a fact that latency matters A TON
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im ranked also irl, sponsored by redbull
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: no you can't. That's called "compensation", where the server decides to screw everyone over to reach the lowest common denominator (your latency)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: Ok here is where I call bullshit :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's why you can get shot through walls :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: bullcaca* lets keep it PG :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: hehe, ak 47 shoot so easily through walls
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: Sorry, I'm just allergic you know. :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But anyone who claims that they can competitively play ANY competitive game via 3g....well, I challenge you to a duel :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: tHERE IS SO MANY cheats on CS servers, like wallhack and speed hack
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm not denying that...I'm just saying latency is a factor
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Hey my man Cheeze, im refering to back in 2004 :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ALWAYS
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well no shit...in 2004 3g would be faster than DSL
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's not the case these days, or even remotely
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: caca*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Right right, my bad. caca
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: i'm such a hypocrite now
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: hehehe
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: You made my evening. :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Here to serve.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale highfives you passionatley
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the distance to the satellite (both directions) divided by the speed of light, is slow, compared to undersea fibreoptics om planet earth
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well...satellite signals don't move at the speed of light....
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Fiber optics do, satellite travels in waves, so it's determined by the wave frequency and the medium it's travelling in (high atmosphere, low atmosphere, no atmosphere)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Erm.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: wave frequency does not change the speed of light
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ummm....duh?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Radio waves in atmosphere travel near enough the speed of light as no matter.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Why do I opt for satelite internet,? its like 1000 rand, like 74 $ for the dish and installaiotion and a puny 19$ per month for uncapped internet
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The velocity factor in fiber optic cable is more like .66.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and there is very little atmosphere in outer space
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The wave would have to go through all three type of atmosphere i listed...
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Doesn't matter.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I forgot how selective you read Xylix
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The distance still kills you.  You're going to be getting close to a second of round trip time with satellite no matter what.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: my Geforce 1080 OC cost 9000 rand and when i convert it to yall dolars its 666$
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: But I highly suspect you USA folks pay less for pc ware
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Distance always kills. Connecting to an eastern european or asian server in the US can also hit nearly a second.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: In south africa its go to go store, you will find prices flactuate wildy
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the distance through the atmosphere is near negligible compared to the distance through the vacuum of outerspace to the satellite
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Singapore got the best ping i think
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: typical latency for satellite is between 240 and 280 ms, fiber from NY to Sydney would in theory be minimum 90 ms when goind in a stright line :)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Or some asain server after Swede
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No connection to the other side of the planet happens without hops :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I got my info wrongmost prolly
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Heard it on tech t to far ago
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 240ms -- low orbiting satellites
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Why are you even considering atmosphere? It only slows down the signals by about 0.05%. Fiber is way slower, about 20-30% less than vacuum.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's IMPOSSIBLE to competetively game with
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If i see 60+ms, it's noticeable
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Satellite internet is going to be geosync.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 100+ is unplayable, and 200+ is murder time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Bsck in 2002, 3g wsnt suited for quake 3 online gaming, untill 2006/7 when we got 1meg/ps internet then only quake 3 ran lag free
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: That's 250ms up and back.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: But you're gonna need packets coming back too, so that's half a second right there, before you cound any other net.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 250ms in rocket league you would be constantly hitting where the ball was...
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: How can I test my ping right about now without spending 5meg data ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "ping google.com" let one packet leave and come back, kill the ping
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or "ping 8.8.8.8" if you want to bypass the DNS
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale thanks No Offense Cheezburger heartily.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: even if you dont kill the ping, doenst is stop at 5 packets automatically?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Not on windows
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Can I use it via Opera mini though
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Can I use it via Opera mini though
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: put -t after it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: i think it's continuous
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Opera mini? Wtf is that?!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Windows it's 4 or 5 without argument but you can put -t and it'll make it continuous
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Oh then I reversed it. Linux is continuous by default
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The second best browser after UC web??
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's not a browser command
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's a CMD command
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I dont touch internet explorer from win 7 though
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: webbased: http://www.ipaddressguide.com/ping
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: win+r, cmd, enter, ping 8.8.8.8, enter
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: My browsers is compressed data
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: limited data rememer
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ping is so small it won't matter
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's literally 64 bytes of data per ping
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: dns told me size doesnt matter :(
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: Abelinc told me size does matter :(
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If 64 bytes of data will put you over, then Aard just took all of that 20 seconds from now
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im so happy we all are clever/nerds/geeks
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: wtfreak is the Geforce 3D vision?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 3d monitor support IIRC
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: So no support for 3D goggles making desktop 2d enviroment 3D?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Google tells me it's stereoscopic imaging
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale thanks No Offense Cheezburger heartily.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 3d blu-ray is a joke -- the rural shops stock what sells and don't bother to stock 3d blu-ray players - so 3d is mostly dead (unless ordered from the intenet)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: does anyone know of a windows programm that will display what raw (hex or bin) keystroke is sent from a certain USB port?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, 3d is mostly dead. hard stop.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: AutoHotkey might
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I use Autohotkey :D
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: atm in time, the 5,.1 Dolby Sony surround hooked up to my pc is attequite, hile its not mind numbing hard i would love more
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Its a live home thaert sys
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I understood some of those words...
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I want to make my MAN cave windows rattle
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Car sound is the only option imo
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ugh, that just creates destructive resonance
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And makes it sound like poopoo
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nah, quality goods and knowhow to setup fgz
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I mean to set it up like hearing distance
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Oh you mean when converting casr sound to home usage
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: set aside some cash for the hearing-aid you may require later
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: After 12 years I dont get hearing loss
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hearing loss is so subtle you'd never know until you put in a hearing aid and discovered what you'd been missing
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you believe digital music sounds better than analog music, you're already deaf 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I was tsted in a closeout booth for my job currenlty, no problems there....
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: analog lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That old saying "You don't know what you have until it's gone" can easily be reversed to "You don't know what you're missing, until you're not missing it anymore"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I dont listen to headphones, those are the umber one killer in ear loss
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I didn't realize how bad my eyes had gotten from writing code 8+ hours a day, 5 days a week, for 15 years. Until I went and got an eye exam
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: So obviosly listening irl not to close to big ass subs wont do that much harm
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's not true
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: hmm, then im mistaken
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I guess age have play a big part, im still young aka 30
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Any sounds over (i wanna say 120 decibels) cause the celia (ear hairs) to die. They are what's responsible for "hearing" and relaying it to the ear drum.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm 26 :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Age is a factor, but not the only one
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: omfg, you are like DR.phill to me, so old and smart
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale pats No Offense Cheezburger on his head.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: look it  up but even exposure to 90dB + over extended time can cause damage
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Is it 90...heh, I was giving you more room than I should have :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 90 is equivalent to a lawn mower, right?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Googlle it dwg, but the increments go up wldy at 90
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I mean  a 747 is 130?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Probably
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: a chainsaw is 120
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I think a vaccuum cleaner is already like 50
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Here in my small town at the WV club,most they could get out of competitors cars is 156 db...
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: According to google a vaccuum is 70
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Its takes allot of hard ware to actually beat it by 5db
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The curve is at 240db
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: So difficult to gain more, much like decreasing return aka mastery
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: 140db*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: 140db*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the decibel system is logarythmic 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Xyliz -What is a five track?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Right up your alley
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I heard its good like your analog
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I get its a smaller size LP, but still
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: You cant eat nowadyas digital bitrate
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: beat lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: OK, I prolly must go tier and talk less crap
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some expensive reel-to-reel tape-recorders of the 1980s were able to record multiple analog tracks in the same direction
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: then digital came and killed music
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what you are listening to these days is digital noise
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Only reason why you can vouch for Analog is when you did tests on side by side devices... Do tell me you did this or is suckking it fom the thumb
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im not disputing your facts, only want to be enlightnent from its source and facts
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: side-by-side comparisons are deceptive. and do not illustrate the reasons that digital music is defective crap.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Analog is able to do something that digital is unable to replicate
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: And your hearing % per ear is different to anothers, did you take that in account
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: sound fuzzy?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The only difference is that Analog is lossless (truly lossless)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Whereas all digital means (even the lossless ones) lose some of the channels.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: virable bitrate ftw
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Lossless??  As in entropy doesn't exist?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: duh imo
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well ... "essentially lossless", everything moves towards Entropy over time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I have led zeppeling 1 through 4 on SACD which is sourced from the Reel to Reel. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: it "sounds" better mostly because it didn't get butchered by an "audio engineer" doing their "mixing"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you were brough up on digital moise, you are likely not hardwired to discern what analog provides and digital doesn't -- and you've also been brainwashed with lies from the digital music industry.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I wasn't
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No sound beats the voives in my head.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the digital music industry is very aware that digital is inferior to analog, but they are not going to tell you that -- they are going to tell you lies so you spend your money on digital crap
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that depends on resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just like analog and digital photography
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (whole wheat bread versus refined white flour bread)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: bitrate*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: #fakenews
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm gonna bodyslam you, CNN
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: since both digital and analog tv images are pixelised, digital video is able to look better than analog video these days
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you should rather compare digital cinema to analog one
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: as TV is just a device with limited resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (apples and oranges are different)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there is not difference between digital and video tv - as long as you use same resolution for both
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: video and sound are vastly different  (analog sound is not pixelised)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but there is still difference between analog and digital photo, though comparing that a film has limited grain - it is like limited ccd sensor resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: sound is also incredibly subjective. Inherently more so than video
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: for sound - you are also limited with speakers - as they also have limited resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: only live sound could be considered "perfect", but then your ear is also limited
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so digital sound wins just because it is more profitable - you can easily reproduce songs and sell them
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: vinyl records are quite expensive comparing to mp3 (no physical medium)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: digital wins because most people don't want fuzzy, "warm", "colourful" sounding music because they're ears aren't failing them 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: their*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I am ashamed of that grammatical mistake 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: listeners of digital sound are losers because digital is more profitable (when listeners believe the lies told by the digital music industry)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I get most of my music in 24bit flac. that's pretty much good enough for my ears and audio equipment. For analog to digital recordings it's mostly SACDs
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: when I'm feeling nostalgic I'll run some vinyl's
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digital music is actually painful to listen to when the mind detects that the digital music is not supplying that which analog music supplies
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: at least that's what you tell yourself. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: pretty sure you'd fail a double blind listening test 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: you also do realize that the audio mix for vinyl's tend to be different from those mastered to CD.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: because in that sense I'd 100% agree that the mastering onto CD is complete shite compared to vinyl
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but that has nothing common with digital/audion encoding, just some people decided that it is more "modern" or "cool" when you distort sound in some way
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: people always say that, but when put up to double blind listening tests can't tell the original analog vs. digitally encoding lossless format (heck most people can't even tell the difference with a lossy encode)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Stil on sound quality lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: sound chat is always one of those massive rabbit holes
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: unless you have analog from record player to speaker you're fooling yourself in believing vinyl is better 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: vinyl isn't better. It's a piss poor medium for storing audio
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: but I would also make the argument that the audio mixing that goes INTO a vinly recording tends to be superior to the CD versions
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: likely requires training to recognise what repeated recorded analog music supplies and repeated recorded digital music does not supply (and causes mental pain in the not supplying)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: but that's mostly from an audio compression perspective where the audio "engineer" just collapses all the dynamic range and farts out the track
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you are looking in the wrong places
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: what you just wrote borders on bat crap crazy :)..
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog music supplies detail which digital music is unable to supply
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not true
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: sure, if you think the fuzziness and noise floor of analog recordings is actually something you like/want to hear.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you mean analog "live" music - then yes, as d/a converted are limited whether you use 48, 96, or 1024 bit one
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: it might sound subjectively better to you, which is fine. different strokes for different folks. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: vinyl as analog is as good as good is your needle and piezo
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: but unless you're sitting there with multiple mics picking up the sound from a live event , you're not getting that in the VAST majority of "analog" material you may own.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but if you are brainwashed and indoctrinated with the lies told by the pedantic parrots of the digital music industry, you are likely going to disregard the truth
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The thing tha matters atm, do you actually have the sound system powerfull enough, to draw the listening pleasure
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: dont go listening with earbuds
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: xyliz: saying the same stuff over and over again doesn't make for an arguement
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you are obviously not comprehending what was typed:
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog music supplies ***DETAILS*** which digital music is unable to supply
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz: do you know how do they manufacture vinyls? I guess you could consider that only perfect way is using the same method that Edison used to record merry-go-round, but even that was limited resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: explain to me these details.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is no analog musig unless you listen to unplugged live performance
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: because like trachx and I have said, unless you have live recordings of things that haven't gone through an a/d coversion, you're entire argument falls flat
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all "analog" music nowadays is processed by some d/a converters and then it is stored on some "analog" medium like vinyl
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: if you think 99,99999999% is "all", then yes
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: 99.9999999999 = 100 :D
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: until you realise the fact: "analog music supplies DETAILS which digital music is unable to supply", you are barking up the wrong trees 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what details? paper sticker with price?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: alright, good to know I can ignore you now
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: attempt to refute that fact: "analog music supplies DETAILS which digital music is unable to supply". (bark up that tree)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: extremely difficult to deprogram religious zealots
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some people claim they are able to distinguish between audiophile gold plated power cable and just ordinary power cable, they forgot that power plant is not noiseless and that between them and power plant there are xxx km of wire
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: And I told you, that yes there are more details in analog recordings. No one has argued against that. But with that comes a MUCH higher noise floor, loss of some clarity, etc. All of this being well in the "subjective" realms of thigs
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: analog quality is similar myth as that you can touch anything with your finger (which is impossible, because if your hand is 1 meter from an object, then you can divide that distance by two, then again divide new distance by two and so - you never get to perfect 0 distance)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i've heard some digital zealots swear that a one track digital pressing of digital music sounds better than a multi-track copy of that digital pressing -- but digital is digital - nope they say, a commercial one-track pressing sounds better than a pc-burned copy
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: your ear has limited resolution, you cannot hear 1hz or 540khz, so you cannot receive analog music
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: explain on track pressing , vs multi-track pressing as well as pc-burned. I'm curious to see what you mean by these terms.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "more details with some noise" is vastly superior to "few details with no noise" 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz you're still missing a point: there is no difference between analog and digital that you can perceive, however if you compare "Nothing else matters" recorded by XXX records to YYY records, then yes - those can sound different , but not because of medium digital/analog 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (whole wheat bread is vastly superior to refined white flour bread)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Trachx you are dead wrong if you bet your life on that -- some humans are able to perceive a difference between the analog and digital recordings of the same music
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but not everybody is a Xyliz
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you perceive a difference betweend digital sound stored on analog medium vs the same original digital sound?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure you can, that means that analog distorted original sound source
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: qed, analog is inferior quality comparing to digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: most of the tests are "can you say which is which" i've seen. not "which you like more".
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: problem is that if I use 4-bit color then you can easily distinguish it from 32-bit color, right ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyone can do that, now if you get 4-bit slow sound a/d converter - then sure you will hear a difference
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: question is: can you digitize analog sound and play it so nobody will be able to distinguish it from analog ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes you can, just use high quality fast a/d and d/a converter
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i mean, i can never say why something audible is better, hence i couldn't point to the right device. so the tests are not working that way at all. speaking about ignorant joes here.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: sry i'm no audiophile but with enough resolution can't you just use digital? analog isn't magic, it has its own limitatons and resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: same as with enough pixels you get life life picture, you can get life like sound with digital with enough resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digital music is a sampling process that throws away lots of detail, and modifies a lot of the remaining detail
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digitisation of music results in differences that are definitely discernable to the trained ear.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: why would you have to throw details away? that is entirely up to the bitrate or the resolution of it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: please record a double blind test of you picking out analog vs digtal of the same recording. please and thank you
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: Murazor- that test is flawed
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I'll consider you godlike if you can guess 10/20 :)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mathematical-theory backs up the contention that there is more detail in analog music than in digital music (of the same music)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: its for "specialists"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: mathematical theory? which one?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Xyliz are you saying analog is magic and doesn't have limitations? it is even though reality as we know it is made up of higher dimensional "pixels" why would analog audio be any different?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz can you touch your nose with your finger? (I've proved *mathematically* previously you cannot do that - as you can always divide remaining distance by 2 and never reach 0 distance)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: you've literally not answered one pointed question. you just wave your hands and go MAGIC DETAILS WOOOWEEOOOO
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: i'd really like to know which math theory you're talking about.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: I don't think Zeno's paradox really applies to this conversation.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: this universe has a minimal distance which is the planck length, audio follows that as well and with planck length you can construct higher dimensional pixels of reality, the analog sound will be chopped up into pieces eventually, there is no smooth curves, it is all pixels, or pixels the size of planck length
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: btw. lets take a perfect saw waveform - if that would be pressed 100% to vinyl, the machine couldnt play it back. it'd be impossible.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostLeader Tech: lok wrong channel
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost introduces little known facts about Quantum Theory, you concede that he's right.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i mean - look: http://www.joelstrait.com/nanosynth_create_sound_with_ruby/saw.png
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: This theory of higher dimensional pixels is one reason some people think reality is a simulation, the same idea of pixels on a screen making the virtual world not real, reality could not be real because we see these higher dimensonal pixels, why is planck length the smallest distance? that could just be the limitation of the simulation running reality, i'm not entirely sure reality is a simulation though. It is just a theory.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: if that was on vinyl, how the hell could the nail follow the thing. its just not possible
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you cannot check whether you live in reality or just a simulation, at least as long there are no flaws in that simulation 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: Robbo is a flaw
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: we're actually living in hologram
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is that hologram exploitable in some way? if no then there is no difference whether we are just dreaming, living in matrix or hologram
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: there is a way, but it's above my pay grade :p
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am a brain in a jar and you are figments of my imagination
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to begin "training" to recognise the detail differences between analog and digital requires (finding) a suitable identical song (multiply listened to and memorised) in analog and (then much later listened to in) digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: SuperTramp "Child of Vision" (from the album "Breakfast in America")
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: you need to record the same playing, one with analog and one with digital and then compare
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: no convertion
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: listen to the sax (in the background) of both the analog and in digital versions - huge difference
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: obviously there are songs that are better in analog or digital, but that is just one example, if we put forth a song that sounds better in digital would you accept that digital "is better"? no you wouldn't
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: hm. average person can say "better or worse". not too much about the details. im above average (because -been failing with mixing my recordings quite a lot) but still cant say why exactly this or that sounds better.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i mean, hm. eh. you cant ask a b and point to the right device. really.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: that example only works if the analog and digital are a) sourced from the same recording b) mastered the same way c) mixed the same way.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: with VERY high chance that they are NOT.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: SuperTramp "Child of Vision" (album "Breakfast in America") - the original vinyl album transfered to highest-quality analog cassette tape, and the commercial CD of the same album
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: and I say this as an electrical engineer of 40 years, with about 15 years of exeperience in audio production
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: well duh, the viynl is a differnt mastering and mixing of course it'll sound different.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: vinyl*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: it's the same thing as led zeppelin iv. There are 4 or 5 known masters and they all sounds VERY different, right down to the stereo panning. with the SACD being the closest thing to listening to it on an original reel to reel
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: after 3 hours, stil on the sound quaity subjecs
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I'll let you know when we hit 24
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the CD is unable to replicate in full detail the background sax -- the sax detail fades in and out of detail drowned out by louder sounds
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: yes becase they have decide who wins 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: they have to do it today!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: it's not the CD Xyliz, it's the fact that the entire CD is mastered differently.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Xyliz will win, obviosly, duhhh ?! Man vs Android
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: You can try as a human player, but you will fail misserably. Better and go and play this actual game and gin rank
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in the analog version on the cassette tape (preserve the vinyl), the sax detail is there even amidst the louder music, and the sax detail is scrumptious
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there are other examples
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: vinyl recordings, for the most part , tend to be mastered from a different source (usually ones that hasn't been messed with by "audio engineers" much). They aren't compressed at all leaving the dynamic range fully intact. Heck you can even see the same happening between DIGITAL records. Metallica's album that came out a few years ago had different masters for guitar hero or whatever it was vs. the cd version.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz: if you mean that your analog version recorded and processed by Y differs from digital version by X , then sure they differ
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: yeah that's nothing new and or interesting.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz: but then your semi-perfect analog version differs from live version
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: that's been a known thing for a long time.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: or a known unknown....
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "The Golden Voice of Nat King Cole" on vinyl and analog cassette, is no longer "Golden" in digital.  Digital is unable to replicate the golden tones of the voice of Nat King Cole.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does that analog resemble unplugged live performance?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: great, looks like i lost electricity for a second, the lamp flickered and lost internet connection, i swear this piece of appartments are a bit horrible, electricity and stability wise.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: for those still playing along at home, the metallic album was death magnetic.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: studio recorded
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: how long can a computer run without power from the cord?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have they useed some piezo converters to convert waver sounds into electric impulses ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: fractions of a second
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: unless your on a UPS 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz dislikes "live concerts" - too much audience noise
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: my halogen lightbulb detected it i think, and my internet connection took a couple minutes to reconnect
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i never liked live recordings:) 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Metis usually switch or router requires some time to boot up
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: my computer ran as always though :) (almost posted to wrong chat again!)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: time to go home, i'm sure we can continue this when i get home in an hour or two
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Beach Boys CD music are reminiscent of a harsh tinny-metal sound - the digitisation is almost painful to hear.  The vinyl versions are "Classic".
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but they are different from original live performance
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some audiophile vinyl records sound "slick" and do not sound as good as the ordinary version vinyl records 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may like better "classic" version because the way it was processed suits you more, but is different from live performance (even if you could go to studio and listen it when it was recorded)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whether analog or digital - you are not listening to original sound, you are listening to *processed* sound
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Yeah, if i doesn't like the sound of live, he likes the special effects of analog vinyl or something, over natural sound and that is a bit odd.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: if he doesn't like
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: most of the music prefered by Xyliz is "Studio recorded", not the "live crap" spoiled by the audience sounds
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you just like analog distorion
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: you can get that with digital processing, you can get the vinyl sound as well
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog already comes with some noise -- the audience noise is disliked
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with high quality vinyl transferred to highest quality Maxell CR02 cassette, played on high quality cassette playback system, the noise is minimal and negligible
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: high quality vinyl is different from unprocessed studio sound
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: This audio discussion is bias confirming and not objective, lets just move on, we like what we like because we like it, not because one is objectively better than the other in everyway, there is analog crowd that swears by analog but may very well be fooled by digital sound that emulates analog effects and say how good it is
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz you just do like more analog effects done by XXX recording studio, YYY digital studio prefers to add other effects not because digital cannot sound like analog, but because they chose to do so
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in the 1980s, purchased a top of the line cassette recorder and playback player aka Ghetto Blaster (at least $600), and used the best Maxell cassettes avalable (and there is a noticeable difference in transferred sound between the highest quality blank cassette and the next cheaper version blank cassette)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: that is almost 40 year old technology (if it was brand new when you bought it)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: why would that still apply today? thats 40years+!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that proves that sound engineers that constructed your ghetto blaster just liked some kind of audio processing
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or they just bought some cheap parts so they could profit more
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i think beyond intentional analog effects, it is probably just placebo
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so called "clear", "bass", "rock", "whatever you like" - that is some kind of audio processing
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: electric impulses just go through a lot of elements like resistors, capacitors, transistors and are more or less distorted
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the music *depth* of *detail* and *truth consistency* of studio recorded music is what is supplied by analog. No digital lies, no lossy with analog, only truth (with S/N ratio of negligible noise)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you connect mic - a/d converter - d/a converter - speaker or mic - speaker --- you cannot hear any difference as long as a/d and d/a resolution is higher than your ear
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you mean that a/d and then d/a conversion can sound terrible - then you're right, it can sound terrible
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Digital music is a sampled approximation - mendacious lying falsity - not the truth
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not because it is digital or analog feature - it is because somebody have chosen so
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you are not able to distinguish approximated sound from non approximated sound - unless you use cheap slow a/d and d/a conversion
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have black and white paints you cannot paint green grass to look like a green grass, right ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: as soon as sound goes digital, something is lost, and there is no regaining that which was lost by the digitisation of analog
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: analog won't survive anyways, it isn't able to be replicated or duplicated, you can dupe digital recording
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as soon as sound enters analog microphone - something is lost
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: the reason we just digital is because how well it replicates and can be copied, analog is shit in that compartment, lossless is best
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are no lossless microphones - neither analog nor digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (as soon as whole wheat is refined into white flour, nutrients are lost, and there is no regaining of the those nutrients even in pill form) (but white flour is clean!)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: that is true but refined flour is easier to digest and we get more nutrients on a smaller volume
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one simple example: this letter "a" was entered by analog way , now this letter "a" was entered by digital way (copy-paste), do you see any difference between "a" and "a" ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: In the end, you get much more nutrients by cooking rather than eating raw
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: there is no analog "a" the computer is digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: your analog "a" would be a little of every other letter possible, a bit of a blur, a digital "a" is precise and 100% an "a" and nothing else
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the south USA used to refine corn, and many of the poor died as a result from the resulting nutritional deficiencies
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well , maybe "a" is digital - but I entered it analog by pressing key
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: no, your key is digital it is 1 or 0
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my key is black! (because white paint has used up)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in 1980 to 1985, analog music was at its peak in terms of technology. Then digital arrived and murdered music. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: analog is old tech, until eventually we can make full use of it because in theory, analog packs a lot more information, we just don't have precise enough machines to copy it perfectly every time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: the thing is though, even though analog can pack more information, you can just send digital information faster and reach the same result or better with digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog music is attempting to make a comeback, but not too sure the current comeback technology is even remotely as good as the 1980s technology
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: same theory applies to old cables for sending information, they used to be huge in computers, even though they had like 16+ lines of information, in theory 16+ times faster, they ended up a lot slower than todays 1 in/out line of USB cables that just sends information in 1 line, but extremely fast, zeroes or ones, 10101001010, no queue times, and perfect every time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: top of the line analog music technology used to be super-expensive
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: marketoids now try to sell you analog because it is "better", "losless", "cool", "classic"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: well can't digital be lossess as well? the initial recording done in digital?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whether analog or digital - you never get an original studio sound, you always get it processed in some way
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and lossless is just very vague term - if I can see only black and white - then using grayscale to encode 32-bit color image is still lossless
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: True, but the less loss over an huge amount of copies the better, if you copy analog on an analog of an analog of an analog, the sound will be terrible no? digital is precise instructions, analog is a blur
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: more honest down-to-earth consistent full truthful and nutritious detail -- ANALOG! 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so digital is lossless as far as it proveides more accuracy than you are able to perceive
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: yes, if you can record in digital, it should be entirely lossless
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a hidden noise in digital - the difference between the true analog and the digital 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if your ear is able to hear 20hz-20khz then even if original sound was in range 1hz-30khz and digital recorded was limited to 20hz-20khz - it is still "losless" comparing to listening live
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: always, especially if you have measures to ensure that the hardware that keeps the digital information doesn't mutate, you can compare check sums etc to confirm its perfection, though in theory it looks to be impossible to be 100% sure no mutations in information occurs over a huge amount of time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is no hidden noise in digital, *unless* somebody (audion engineer) has added it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: the true analog is due to analog recording, if you drop analog all together and use digital on the first step, it is lossless, unless random mutations over a large amount of time (quantum probability etc)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and they add noise / distort original sound - because they think people will prefer such processed sound; that applies both to analog and digital records
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is there not digital microphones? must it be analog tech? i'm no expert after all
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: live sound is analog, so you need to convert analog to digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Still on the Analog ?!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: speakers are also digital (till direct brain connection is invented) so there is a conversion d/a
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps the body is able to discern the beat-differences between the higher frequency sounds, example: a 17kHz and a 18kHz produce a 1kHz beat-difference
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whenever conversion (analog - analog or analog - digital - analog) occurs - there is always loss of a signal
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I think most speakers are entirely analog
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the sound card does the conversion for the speakers
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: iT DEPENDS PURELY ON USER  to user, omfg duh, you can have the ear repsonse of a chusrce mouse or... a sex cybatron in heat
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: yes it is the conversion that causes the loss, or just copying analog, at least with digital you can make a huge amount of copies without mutation
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xylize check your speakers specs, it is probably unable to reproduce 1hz nor 33khz sounds
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the drum and cymbals produce a "wash" which is there in analog but removed or absent in digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so stop using imperfect speakers to listen imperfect analog recordings
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: record analog then play it out, then record that playback and record that, then play that out and record that and you will see how much loss there is with analog
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: what is the command to lock/unlock window position in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: You can debate all you want, But untill you all sit around the devices in question, and et rated by an indepented jusge/judges you are screwed atm... DUH
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i'm fairly sure they have already done that a thousand times already, people are still debating
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: vinyl to cassette is only one (1) transfer -- no need to transfer further -- a cassette tape lasts a long while
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: aard layout lock/unlock
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: thanks trachx
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: vinyl to cassette does at least 30 transfers or more
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i don't really care enough to warrant analog anyway, i prefer safer digital copies that can be stored on computers and not vinyl discs
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: digital is awesome
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Super Nintendo takes advantages of some old bitrate
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 1 transfer means that there is only 1 wire so you connect with that wire vinyl record with cassette
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you put that cassette in cassette recorder and connect audio input to it then electric impulses go through a lot of converters that distort/change signal - like capacitor, resistors, transistors, dioded or recording tape head
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even you should consider internal PSU for that cassette recorder (or vinyl player) as one more noise source
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (the shelf-life of wholewheat flour is likely less than that of bleached white refined flour) (however, wholewheat flour is healthier than white flour)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz face the fact that you are unable to distinguish analog from digital if both were recorded the same way
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if they were processed in different way then you are listening to two different recordings
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a UPS is supposed to remove electric line noise
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: really
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then I guess it is temperature proof, induction proof, resistance proof, em proof, wave proof, and so on
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what kind of energy does it provide? as 100% it cannot be electric one
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (wrong) Trachx, digital is not able to provide the consistent full detail that analog provides, (even when the same masters are used) (so of course digital aand analog are different)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: digital has limited resolution, but your resolution is more limited than digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you cannot hear a difference if recording was done right
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you listen to low quality digital or analog recordings - you cannot blame digital or audio for quality of that recording
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also if you use low quality player whether digital or analog - you cannot blame digital/analog for quality of that player
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Analog is able provides an orgiastic ecstacy.  Digital provides deficiency and pain and is unable to provide what analog does (from the same original sound source)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you perceive difference between analog and digital version not because of digital technology limitations, but because somebody has chosen to record/process it different way
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: SuperTramp ("Breakfast in America") "Child of Vision" - Analog: the full orgiastic sax ecstacy - almost "to die for", (but stay alive).  Digital: disappointment and frustration
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: after experiencing Analog Ecstasy, digital music is a frustrating disappointment
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Star Wars Tech: how to you reset the mush client? everything is smooshed to the right side
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: aardreset, I think
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: is audio chat still going?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: anyone know of a good MP#
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: sorry nearly died, MP3 Splitter for mac? 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I have a really long audio book that's one big mp3 file and I want to split it into smaller ones, any reccomendations? 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: first hit on google = mp3 trimmer
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: huh not my first hit =( 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: maybe you some kind of dirty search redirect?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: audacity is my second result but that's more of a full featured audio editor
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i've used audacity....it's a pain
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: reaper?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: drag your file, put the cursor on the place you wanna cut, type "s"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: then render.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yikes not looking to drop 60$ on something I use sporadically 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: its uncrippled
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: no idea what that menas
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: and stays that way ever after trial period
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: means
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: its a nagware. you get the full thing but it nags until you pay
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: ah 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: only nags when starting the program. then it just works without any issues
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MP3 music is extremely painful music er wannabe music er noise -- unless there are different levels of MP3
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: twas about an audio book this time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what's wrong with lossy compression on an audiobook
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: repear looks really complicated, have you personally used it? 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: eh. reaper doesn't come with mp3 encoder. needs this lame.exe. a few months ago mp3 licence-thing ended i think. free like ogg now.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: it looks that way. but is very comfy to use with simple stuff- like splitting
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: ive used it a lot, yes
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: some other person here wanted to do the exact thing. she got it and was done in no time i remember
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: okay thanks ill give it a whirl
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: fyi , i used the MP3 Splitter for Mac. $30 but it worked fully for free trial...was able to split by duration super easy, can also do other types of split. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But why not Audacity?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's free :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: with daw, you could add reverb and chorus to your audio books:)}!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ....that just sounds like a way to make an audiobook horrendous :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: and scary noises for horror stories:)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz reminisces of the good old days when simple software was free
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I need an audacity plugin to change all voice-like waveforms into morgan freeman voice waveforms :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: audadcity and I didn't play nice together. i tried it for my last book. and it takes way to long to load a book and then find silences
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i looked for a free movie editor.. it was such an adventure. they say "free" but don't mention the handicaps anymore even. cruel
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Always google for "FOSS" instead of "Free"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: vlc did the job finally:)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You mean VLMC?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: vlc. i needed to capture the screen.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Wasn't aware VLC could do that. I always use OBS
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: pretty much anything else was horrible. free stuff i mean. 0 luck
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: foss hm
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: yep, vlc can do it fine. there is a trick to get the mouse cursor but thats it.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: well hell, in the file name it's listed off as "boookname - #.mp3" but in plex they're only showing up as "Bookname" ....any suggestion for a quick fix on this problem =P 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: remove the spaces
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: really would rather not do that manually to 100 files 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i think foobar can do it but its for geeks
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11752878/awk-sed-one-liner-command-for-removing-spaces-from-all-file-names-in-a-given
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There's a windows equivalent way I'm sure.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: also there are no spaces in the file name... it's "bookname-#.mp3" i just put in a space 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: but essentially: for name in *\ *; do mv -v "$name" ""
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: for name in *\ *; do mv -v "$name" ""; done
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I give up, I can't escape all of them properly
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Everyting s wt :((
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: wet asa cubumbrt in the summer
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: where in the aardwolf.db are the portal shortcuts stored?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: found it, they're just interspersed throughout the "exits" table
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Bastra Tech: anyone know anything about logitech keyboards and linux? new keyboard turned my function keys into media keys.:P an logitech of course doesn't make linux software for this i dont think i guess the question is does anyone know if i can pass a kernel option to fix this or am i going to have to remap my function keys.:P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What model of keyboard?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://askubuntu.com/questions/285512/how-to-change-function-fn-key-behavior-on-wireless-logitech-keyboard/285604#285604
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Short version: Get a tool called Solaar, it'll let you switch between having to hold Fn down to use the F keys or not.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Bastra Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: mushclient: i changed the font so it's easier to see but now any list from the mud is not lined up.  What's a good font to use?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Any fixed width font. fixedsys, dina, etc. google fixed width fonts for a list.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I still can't reproduce this comm log position thing
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: so how do i down load the latest version of mush and keep all my game stuff i already fixed to transfer into it via plugins and alias and whatnot?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the installer keeps everything as long as you give the correct path BUT always make a backup. ie copy paste to another location
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: yeah i never did it before whats it mean the correct path?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: tell the installer to install over the old location BUT as i said 1st make a backup in case something goes wrong
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: this is version 4.98
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: from where aard home page?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: finger fiendish for the latest version
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also read https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Version-Numbering
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: whats that?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i dont even know what all that means
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which part?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh...I see...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Khaleesi: type 'checkversion' please
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: idk how to make a copy i right clicked on the file and did copy and nothing happened
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: wheres the latest version anyhow?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the whole directory, right click copy, then go some place where you have space and right click paste
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: technically i just download it and i cant put world deatails in it right? 
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can finger fiendish for the link
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh, i meant to make a backup of your mush directory
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: idk what mush directory means
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the directory that you have mushclient installed in
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but you can only do that with a non-running mushclient or you very well may get a corrupted copy
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: ok i made a copy of it i have idk like 4 copies from different days can i change the name of the whole file and re download the new version over this copy i made? 
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: will the new version let me pick which one i want to mess with?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which one what?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, i would test out the update by pointing the installer, when you run it, at a backup and see that it works
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: what u mean pointinng the installer?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: if i click the downloard latest version button does it ask me which place to override or update which copy? i seriously dont want to fuck this up
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the thing that you should've made a copy of is an entire folder named MUSHclient...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the installer is the program file named Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1930.exe that you downloaded from Fiendish's site
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i made the whole file on my desktop
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and "mess"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not file
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: folder
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should have a copied folder icon, with dozens of files and folders inside it
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i copied the WHOLE folder so now it says on my desktop Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1825 - Copy (3)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so go to where you double-click to launch MUSHclient.exe...then go to the folder "up" from that...highlight the MUSHclient folder, hit ctrl-c, then ctrl-v...that should give you a new folder named "MUSHclient - copy"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: hi abelinc
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i have a whole folder named musclint copy yes im actually using it right now its all exactly the same as before
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but when you make that MUSHclient copy folder, MUSHclient should not be running (i.e. you shouldn't be here, unless you're using an alternate version to connect)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: the question was i havent downloaded the latest version of aardwolf so... 
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is there a particular reason you want to upgrade? if not, it sounds like you're best off just leaving things alone
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: welp
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you download the latest, at the download stage, it's just like you're downloading a PDF, it doesn't "do" anything
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: my world details are so messed up that when i runto some new areas they arnt on here and i have to keep reinstalling mapper
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's just saving a file into your downloads folder
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i need a man
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You point at NotGod Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you don't need a man, you need basic computer skills
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's all yours!
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: not pizza boy lol
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i made a copy of the whole thing i just need to upgrade it to the latest version so i dont lose all my plugins and my keypad and my alias and my stuff
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: question is if i download the new vversion to a copy i made will that new version ask me which place which copy i want it to go to
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: am i saying this wrong?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you download a new version, it does nothing
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: what do u mean it does nothing?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you RUN the installer (the thing you download), it will ask you where you want to install
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download does nothing but download
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. it puts ONE file into your downloads folder, and doesn't touch any other files, folders, or programs on your computer
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: it says.... Just install over the same location as your previous version and that's it.    
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: really?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: really what
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: just questioning abelinc, khaleesi
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: unzipping over top will kill your settings. At least it did for me
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: sigh
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the download from Fiendish isn't a zipfile...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an installer
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i think i need a live person
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: or you can just not bother upgrading. What's broken that you need to upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or someone you trust and teamviewer
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you double-click Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1930.exe, click "I agree", then it takes you to a screen that asks for a "destination folder"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I am going to send you a link to click on, Khaleesi
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that "destination folder" should be browsed, and you choose one of your copied folders
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: just have a credit card handy
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and then my colleague John, who's real name is Sunil, will troubleshoot your device
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: thankyou for your time
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: whose*
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: before you overwrite your current install just make a copy of it in case you do not like new version or something breaks
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: if you buy the pizza, I'll come help you, Khaleesi
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll only come help if you buy the plane ticket
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: pleiades we are not friends shove the pizza up your ass
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I'm going to be in Florida anyways, next week :)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: u are creeping me out i dont live in florida
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Murazor: all kinds of obscure things are broken and fixed over time. I suppose it depends on what you mean by "not broken"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: perfect is the enemy of good
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the URL in my finger includes the list of changes
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: mmmm breaking stuff
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think there's every been a bug-free release
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ever
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: must be because it is not an Apple product
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: we need mush for apple
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's exactly why
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: people use mushclient in macos with WINE
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thats wat i do
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: maybe it's just me, but aard seems to have a hard time properly shutting down using wine on a mac
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: a force quit doesn't seem to kill the process
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which version of wine, and where did you get it from?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: wineskin I should say
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: What I mean is that if that you can play the mud without any problems, upgrading probably isn't worth it. But if there's something broken (ie. functionality that you need) then upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: from 10/15
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've had pretty good performance in the past from the Wine.app Downloads half way down http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/downloads
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i forget but i go through terminal on my ma
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: mac
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the versions of wine there are a bit old
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: wineskin 2.6.1
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: engine WS9wine1.7.2
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess these days I might use homebrew
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: gonna try that link you sent, Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i use homenrew i think to initiate wind
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i have to open terminal, cd desktop,cd mushclient, wine mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I do the same
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: is homebrew an emulator?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Homebrew is sort of an installer
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i just followed the directions on his site a long ass time ago.  
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and it would run mush on an mac?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Wine will run mush on a mac
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there is a package for wine in homebrew, yes
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you would install homebrew, then use homebrew to install wine
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ive been doing it for a while now pleiades cause i hated mudlet
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: the directions on the wine site are almost step by step.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: aah
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I just installed wine, use terminal to go to mush's directory, then 'wine MUSHclient.exe'
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: otherwise I was going to throw mush on an Azure server and just dial in :)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: why not make a script you run from where your terminal launches to do all that?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so open terminal ./mc and that is it
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Please create one for me
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I've been meaning to do that, but I'm lazy :p
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what you would normally do you add ">> mc" to the end but first run "touch mc"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: just 'touch mc'? No extentions?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: as long as you later run "chmod u+x mc" yes
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oops silly me
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: to push those commands to the file you need echo cd whatever >> mc
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the chmod stuff makes mc executeable by the user owning that file
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason to use "touch mc"...doing "foo >> mc" does everything "touch mc" does and more...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: touch is just a quick way to make a file, or to change its modified time...but if you're about to put contents into that file, then just let the way you put the contents there do the "touching"...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, tee does a touch anyways
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, make "mc" unmodifiable by others, and put it somewhere that you have in your $path, then you don't need to change to its directory or "./" it
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I always create a "~/bin" directory and add it to my path for my personal executables.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. move it to /usr/local/bin/, then you can type "mc" from anywhere
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If it's Ubuntu, you can also just type "Mush" into the application searcher and hit enter, it automatically will use wine
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll use ~/bin on public/shared computers, but if it's mine I'll use /usr/local/bin, as that way if I create another shell account I can use it from there as well (i.e. my wife and son both have accounts to play Aard on my systems)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't know that I've ever been on a public/shared linux machine :P
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: At least where I'd be installing things
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I share a linux machine with abelinc
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: (he just doesnt know it yet)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have lots of things installed on freeshell's systems
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better use "vi filename" so you avoid overwriting file, if it is Linux then quite likely "mc" stands for midnight commander, to make file "protected" you can use "chattr +i <filename>"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: most people won't have midnight commander installed
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Only if you've installed midnight commander...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Which as Fiendish pointed out, won't be many people
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the only time I ever had midnight commander installed was to fix a bug in it
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, the fans of norton commander ;-)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also if someone can't safely tee out a file, I wouldn't be sending them to Vi :P
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nano is at least somewhat newbie friendly
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, form me is quite convenient to use mc, is there more useful file commander if you have to use console ?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I use pico...no idea why...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Vim + Ctags... all i'll ever need again.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm a pico fan :-)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nowadays vi is not as scary as it used to be, quite probably there will be vim not just vi
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: How to quit Vi broke 1 billion view the other day.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or nvi, nod
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So...gonna go with "People still don't know how to use Vi"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and vi is standard editor, I guess that most linux distros have either vi or ed installed
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Most have nano these days too
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and pine :)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Although I had a weird distro a while back that defaulted to Joe for it's editor...that was weird.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I remember joe was quite nice editor comparing to vi
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nowadays just to make a small change I just use vi or mc built-in editor
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I also remember that some lpc muds used "ed" (or some version of it) as area/code editor
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think ed overlaps with our editor too
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: whats the command to reset my MUSH windows?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardreset or resetaard
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ty both
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so you can run mush right from google drive?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: as long as it is through the drive on your computer
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Supposedly. I've never tried it. I used to get weird state file errors if I tried running out of Dropbox.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: through? google drive just syncs up - the files are still on your hard drive :p
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok so then it should work? i have multiple computers i mud from so i wanna see if i can get them all to sync
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: also hoping i can wine though it as well
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, it should work. Keep in mind if you have different screen resolutions, your window positions may be funky
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You may want to just sync your Aardwolf.mcl and database files
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok im going to play with it and see if it will work
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: when ever i try to sort my gear and stuff with an alias it starts and then my input freezes but i still recieve mud output. is this intended ?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: freezes until when?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: until i disconnet and reconnect, i've never tried waiting more than 30 seconds
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. don't know.
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it started with my aarch piece/pamphlet sorting script
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's gateway scripting
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: soon you'll be onto Fiendish grade heroin
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if i change Execute to pring it outputs the correct commands so it might be mudside
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so how do i slow sending commands down?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what commands are you sending?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and are you sure you want to Execute them and not Send them?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for each slot i'm getting and item from a bag, then in this case casting conceal on it and then putting it back in the bag
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: good point
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well some of the commands build aliases
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Send("get @item @bag;c conceal @item;put @item @bag)
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or in multiple sends
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well it uses for location, id in pairs (LGear1) do 
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then uses location and id to get the items
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: using Execute() will always risk interference from other scripts
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So seed @item and @bag with with that for loop
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want to send something, send it. if you want to activate a function, call it. why pretend you're typing?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: for location, id in pairs(LGear1) do Send("Get " .. id .. " " .. location ..";c conceal "..id..";put "..id .. " " .. location) end
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: actually location in this case would be eq slot, so in this case not needed. i normally use that for wear location
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Why would you need wear location at all?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I had assumed "location" to be the conatiner the equipment was in
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so that i always put the same item on in the same wear location and remove the one there
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it used to work less than a month ago
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: *shrug* "wear item" will do that automatically except for rfinger/lfinger rwrist/lwrist
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what did you change between a month ago and now
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: mush versions 
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suppose that would be a good place to start looking, then
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, i'm on R1930
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and before?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the one before 1927
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Wasn't that the transaction bug upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you went from 1920 to 1930?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the one that fixed the random blank minimap issues
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i went via 1927 as well
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did 1927 work?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i only had it on for a day before you rolled forward
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 1916 fixed the random black miniwindow bug
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh i was on 1919
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and 1919 worked?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, i'm sure these worked on 1919
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'll see if send with AG01 works etc
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'll see if send with @BAG01 works etc
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't see anything in the changes between 1919 and 1930 that would likely affect any of this. did you load new plugins?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is your prompt broken?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: prompt is fine
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and no new plugins that i can think of
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'll see if send works
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: just give me a minute to rewrite it
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can also try the installers for the different versions and see which one changes it from working to not working
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the link I posted has all of them beginning when I started making installers
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: even send breaks
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess try installing 1919 again and see if the problem is fixed, then try installing 1920,...
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'l haveto do a regression next week
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't see anything in the change log that could possible cause this, but maybe I forgot to make note of it
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: by the way, is anyone else having the miniwindows not saving position bug?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: I used to have that when I used my mushclient on multiple computers I can't remember if that was part of the issue in this case
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: would need to be currently reproducible
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to test a fix
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: how do you override processing aliases in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: I thought it was starting the line with a period but that doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess that gossips
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, you could do \\\Send("foo")
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is it not #
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think ; is the only thing that you can meaningfully begin a line with
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: because I remember having aliased recall to cast "word of recall" in mushclient but still being able to use the recall command by doing something like .recall
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, the aardwolf package sets \\\ as the script prefix, so beginning a line with that will send anything you type to the script engine. then you can call the Send() function f
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: or perhaps that was back in the bad old zmud days (and before aardwolf existed)
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you definitely want to still do that, set two aliases, one for recall and one for .recall
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: or alias rec to recall :)
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: I made the alias for rec instead
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or trigger of you don't know word of recall
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or make the alias have a regular expression pattern "^\.?recall$" and check what you typed inside it
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Is there a way for mushclient macros to not get added to command history?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd look for the answer to that question on the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: after more testing and commands being locked out but not info from the mud I can confirm that if i send, as text, a 30+ lines of commands as a single block i get locked out from sending any commands and only the first one executes mud side
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I recently started from scratch making aliases, so I only have like 10-15 right now. I run my mush from Dropbox, making sure I only open it on one computer at time, then saving/closing before re-opening on another computer. I've noticed that some of my aliases will randomly disapear. For instance, i created 5 enchanting aliases that will be on my desktop computer and i've saved them, closed out the mush, re-opened on the desktop computer, they're still there. close/save. reopen on my laptop and they're gone. save/close open on my desktop and they're gone from there too. 
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i've also noticed that sometimes they save and ill open on multipel computeres repeatedly and they're there....and then randomly go missing. any ideas what might be going on with my aliases? 
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyla Tech: for the chat window for Blowtorch V2, how do i get it to pick up tells? i can get it for channels, but tells, it won't work.
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: anyone know how to resize the various windows from random plugins?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's either a command, or you will have to edit the source
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: found it, thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at -h...an easy way to get any client (and even MUDside) to ignore an alias is to put a space before it...so " recall" would bypass a recall alias...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: has anyone been able to follow how bast made the output for his helpfile align into columns?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i think it is pluginhelper.lua that does all the formating...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: Anyone else tuned in to watch the Atlas V rocket launch?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: Looks like around 10 minutes till launch unless they delay it again
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: link?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thanks for the link
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I messed around with plugin wizard, gave it a name and hit create, and now all of my aliases are gone. How do I get them back?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I can enable the plug in but I want to just put them all back as aliasses. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Hello
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Hello
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I created a Gmail accont on phone, it doesnt wanna login via Operamini browser... Any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: About to download Chrome for the simple purpouse to log into gmail, does Chrome have allot of behind the scenes data like updating etc that consumes limited mobile bandwith?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im under attack of malware, need to reload all mush plugins, hence need gmail attachments
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: OMfg gasp gasp fresh air, CACKLE I just remembered my gmail password, wow lmao was so obscure, its a wonder how my tipsy brain remembered it, so happy now
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Now i just need to find that secretaive folder ive downloaded my gmail/aard plugins from, i gueess it must be here somehwere
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: got it downloads folder
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: How can I check If my downloaded maper database from email is active>
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The main cuese is I rage quited 2 days back after suffering csrss.exe malware attack, once I connect to the interweb, my gpu go into 99% load, like wtf. It was a bitcoin worm
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Hence I need to reinstall mush today and do all maper related stuff
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Finally got into gmail, so its 75% sorted! tier 1 here i come  wheeeeee
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you do not need windows for some serious work - best just user some kind of VM
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Trachx - I need win 7 for dx gaming
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I see, I am not quite sure whether you can give hardware access to VM then
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The mind numing thing now is, I need to reasign alias triggers etc >_< epic fail
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Trachx _ I can
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Trachx - My motherboard have VM supports, so zero leech from main os
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The 32bit VM im intending to download and use as a 32bit sysem in win 7 aka xp vm
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: the biggest problem I had with VM was the video card. The drivers never seem optimized enough through the VM to do graphics accelerator without performance drop
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that nvidia has something called NVIDIA GPU PASS-THROUGH
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Atleast i got a working SnD now and a almost 100% mapper with notes and cexits, so prolly by tomorrow i can cp lvl again
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Oh yes im on nvidia card atm, Gigabyte geforce 1080 OC
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: is there a good way to backup mapper?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use backups, I have additional disk and do backup of my 2 system+data disks every month or three 
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: copy Aardwolf.db in a diff folder
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapped does backups itself, under backup folder
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err db_backups
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: kk
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just when you copy any *.db file remember to have mush closed
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah I backup in general with everything closed
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Windows restore points is mostly useless in my case of a bitcoin miner worm, i retored to 3 months back, same prob
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but hadn't really thought about how much time I have invested into my mapper at this point
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nods cant 7zip and backup mush folder while aard running
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however best way is just copy whole mushclient folder to other destination (so db + logs (if you use) + settings)
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yep that's what I do. I have an external hd I back it up to once a week or so.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Your best bet is to zip mush folder and make a backup that way, since the mush.exe is hidden from virus attacks in most cases
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I have a terrabyte flash drive that has backups of my entire computer including the OS. If something happens to my laptop, I just need to reformat it or buy a new one and plug the usb in.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I am in the same boat, I setup a NAS as a pet project and dump to that on a regular basis
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but I have a primary working directory that sits on OneDrive that is my first goto
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Gawd my pc was so slow on even this newly bought 1080 OC after ive connected to the internet, the bitcoin trojan made my gpu load to 99%
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: protects me from some crashes, sync's between windows and Linux, just screws me with virus
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: wtf
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: lol, I downloaded like 5 malware apps, none found it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Only ComboFix fixxed it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Best malware remover ever
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: ComboFix is awesome, especially since it will grab rootkits
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I use Delock mobile rack enclosure, but always attached (which is not really good idea for backup purpose)
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: It infexted my csrss.exe ocated in sys32 folde, cant rename it or cut it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still using VMs is nice idea - as you are hardware independent, so when you change your hardware you just only install hypervisor and can run your VM
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but probably not good for anything GPU related
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I get 240 fps in farcry 3 at 1080p ulta detail with anti analizing on, when i connected to he web i get 30ish lamo
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I really liked doing Mint native that I basically never used. Had a Windows and a Ubuntu VM running that I ran full screen and worked off of. Was really cool until I got lazy
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Tipro, try http://www.mushclient.com/pasting
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I kinda find it 'weak' That you cant mapper purge portals confirm, from the start on a newly instaled mapper database.... You have to mapper purge portals first to get a follow up message
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You'll only find out during Rumspinga
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If these are the things that bother you, I think you got it pretty ok!
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can always edit the code if it bothers you.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im a minimalist, spam reduce junikie, and any sort of setting that doesnt regulate to my needs, im upset or frazzeld
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale nods at you.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You have the technology, you can make it faster, stronger, more resilient. It is, $5 million client.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nods, I got every little minute setting allready toggled, hence to Malware I needed to reinstall everything, I know im an idiot for not making backps in my cloud
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm more ashamed of you getting malware :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you're lucky anyway, if you get hit by some crypto ransomware - then you have a problem without backups
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: IMHO, 90% of the crypto ransomeware is easily removed.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im not ashamed, I had avast with upto date udates and stil got it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: WannaCry was a little harder, but not even hard to remove these days.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Relying on your anti-malware, that's your issue :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: removed yes, but you cannot get your files back unless that is old ransomware or you pay (not recommended)
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Be an internet savvy individual instead
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: they robbed a goberment town and the governement paid it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I have/had a bitcoin trojan that infected my csrss.exe in sys32 folder. After i connected to the web my gpu goes into 99% load mostly
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, they're using your rig as a miner
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: bastards
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just fyi, they can't run that w/o internet :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: porn?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I detected it within a whim and sortded it, have to count for some of my tech rep loss
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now it can be probably quite profitable to become a bitcoin miner
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze - I know
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Bitcoin isn't worth mining anymore without an ASIC machine
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze - It uses interweb
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You're better off with X11 or Scrypt mining
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: im out
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And even Scrypt really needs an ASIC machine
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with 3.5k EUR per bitcoin even PC with GPU probably is profitable
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I have/had most uptodate Avast virus definitions, JUST after Ive installed and purchased my Geforce 1080 OC gaming gpu this occured, Im so fking highly suspicios of my driver DDD
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I tried BTC mining on 2 R9 380x's and I only managed 10 satoshis over a week of mining
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: DvD*
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's literally like 4 cents... I paid more in electricity to get that
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: So itcoin trjans wait til you have flagship GPU's to do there dirty leeching hosts on?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Exhale....slow down mang, you're turning into gibberish-typing again :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze - OK, Ima bit exited :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: bitcoin trojan will use any machine
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Noted, but it started after My gpu upgrade//...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, most of them don't care about what GPU you have. They're using you in a botnet, so any/all of that horsepower benefits them
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's either when you got the infection, or triggered something to make it reach out to it's host and start.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm sure they'd just as happily use your CPU
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I see, I quickly nipped in the but though, using procexp64.exe and savvy gpu graphs i saw what files was the culprit
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Perhaps, but my CPU is always 5% max when vieing at on my desktop gadget
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I wonder whether it would be worth to using printers for bitcoin mining (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3QXMMV-Srs <-- that is HP's Wolf production that shows how dangerous are printers)
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im sure you get cpu trojan hogs, but it was so unexpected to recieve 99% loads on a brand new 3 year warranty 1080 OC GPu
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All of IoT devices with any kind of processing power (theoretically all of them) could be coerced into a botnet to do it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't know that overall it'd be worth the infection effort though
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: After some logging, my previous bitcoin miner trojan made now real dents in my daily averge bandwith, Im not that all clued up on bitcoin, but if its hoggin 99% of my GPU's core clock and driving the fan into uber drive, wouldnt the bitcoin harvesting make more data spends aka bandwith??
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Mining should be nominal bandwith usage. The only data back and forth is a sha256 hash
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Internet data aka megabytes usage was normal i guess
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have free energy and bandwith - you do not really care what amount of bitcoin / satoshi you get
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't have free energy OR bandwidth...so I care about my ROI
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you (as botnet owner) have it free - because node owners pay for it :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It still "costs" to aquire devices into the botnet
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The infection vector is not instantaneous or flawless, and usually needs some sort of entry point (user clicking something) to really get rolling
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Very few are still susceptible to the "default admin login" gargabe that took down Sony for a while.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im on  limited bandwith, the data spend dont bothers me cause I can just buy more mobile dongle data, the thing that pissed me to hell is that my brand new gpu(my baby) is using 99% core clock) when idle, I hate to see my new baby working for some other pwick onn the web
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, but it is relatively cheap, and you can rather easily infect some starting points - just distribute infected hacked games, patches or so
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The distribution is the cost I was referring to
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's not a financial cost, but still a cost
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well, part of it might be financial in hosting the malware
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Your GPU actaully over heats prematurely kinda. I mean the fans can handle it, Bitcoin miners is hard to detect for a non user. the cpu load and ram load is normal. I kinda figured it was a driver abnormailty with win 7 AERO.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: on most computers you do hear though if your gpu runs at 100% :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: After some testing and trouble shootng in the first few hours i calculated it was a trojan ( btw I never thought sush a thing existed with up to dated virus deff.)
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Coffebreak _ giggle lol nah
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: If I have to have 99% gpu uasge under normal terms, I will have to play a game thats not yet released.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: which is why something that uses 100% of your gpu is easily detected just by the noise level of your comp
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I need a 4K screeen, currently partying with a flagship top of the brand Sony Bravia 40 inch tv, sadly its only 1080p, who wants to play AAA games on this low resolution anyways, we are not cavemen
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If you rely SOLELY on your AV to prevent viruses, you're already screwed
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No I rely on user savvy 
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also I find MalwareBytes malware DB to be the most extensive and up-to-date
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you must smudge your motherboard once a week to prevent viruses
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I give it a bad daily to remove those pesky infections
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: pray for it. light a candle.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I find it weird it hasn't run correctly since the first bath though :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: s/bad/bath/
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded ruffles No Offense Cheezburger's hair playfully.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I have a gaming rif for over 6 months now, only after my last upgrade to 16gig Corsair ram and 1080 OC gpu this hapened, I mean with wannacry virus etc on the loose, wasnt i user safe method in my ways to have an uniffected pc for over 6 months?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Lucky != safe
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im a PC user since 1995, dont tell me i didnt use rubber :(
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also, again...you upgrading the rig has NOTHING to do with the malware, at all. In any way. Whatsoever.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Uhm geforeec experience updates and numerous new hardware software updatees
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You pulled and prayed for 12 years, but on the 13th year you were too slow.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Again...nothing to do with the malware
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if I were a hardware manufacturer, I'd totally embed bitcoin mining circuits in every device I shipped
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And you'd be in business for maybe a week :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I doubt it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze - im so sorry if i stepped on your toes, especialy your big toe, you are obviously PC god, im a peseant in your eyes
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Now now, no need to get touchy. I'm just stating facts, upgrading your Nvidia drivers DID NOT give you malware
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/08/18/1418219/secret-chips-in-replacement-parts-can-completely-hijack-your-phones-security
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: It does if you download the drivers from the sketchiest places
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well sure, I'll still stand by that being the user's fault :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: Oh, for sure, I'm just splitting hairs
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: Don't mind me :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze still here
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze - Why did the trojan actiavte after my gpu purchase though
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im not a careless download hoarder
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I diddnt even download anything(porn included) in the 2 weeks span of my gpu driver installion\
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/x0r1/jellyfish
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im so hessitting to click on any links, im so fragile now
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~mikepo/papers/gpukeylogger.eurosec13.pdf
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: .pdf is inncent enough ty
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: keyword 'Columbia
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: hehe, Cheeze and Fiends got a wild spectrum of PC knowledge
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2538961/security0/best-buy-sold-infected-digital-picture-frames.html
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alright, trying to troubleshoot my PC. since I upgraded mobo/CPU/RAM, it'll randomly crash while playing games. it'll go days without happening and I can't get it to happen on its own. Windows Memory Diagnostic found no issues and I'm not sure what the next troubleshooting steps should be.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: how much "reserved" memory?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: IE, if you have 16GiB installed, how much does task manager actually see that it can use?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: i've seen issues where channel config of the ram will leave 90% of it unuseable
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: crash like go black but I can still hear noises for a few seconds then whatever noises are going on persist. hardware reserved is 70MB of 16GB. 13GB available after reboot.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Does the screen flash green before the black screen?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so the screen goes black, but any sounds that were occurring finish, but no new sounds play. no green flash, monitor just ceases detecting input.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And if at that point you switch the input from your GPU to your MOBO?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: haven't tried that, but the system stops responding to my button presses. as in, Alt+F4 doesn't exit out of the game.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Can you CTRL_ALT_ESC or CTRL_ALT_DEL?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not to any noticeable difference
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Alt+F4 would stop the persisting sounds from the game if it were doing anything but it doesn't. not sure if I'd get an audio cue with the other two.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: How many monitors?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: one
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, do you have a second one around?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Darn. I wanted to see if your MOBO for some reason is switching off the input to your GPU
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But the GPU fans and stuff still run?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: could be it, there might be a way to disable the onboard video in the BIOS
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I haven't checked. originally I thought it was the GPU overheating but I upped the max fan speed and dropped the target temp a bit and the problem continued.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There usually is. For example when I run my R9 380x's in crossfire, the MOBO will full on turn one of them off and just use its resources
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: doesn't look like there's a way to disable the onboard video in the BIOS
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What mobo?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: asus z170 pro gaming cause I'm a pro gamer.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://www.overclock.net/t/1592883/z170-asus-bios-how-to-disable-onboard-graphics
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you're my hero, mr burger
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm everyone's hero. They just don't know it yet.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear No Offense Cheezburger has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://businesstech.co.za/news/mobile/139225/mxit-is-officially-dead/
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ok...so I KNOW this is a long shot... But do any of you understand Cell Modem interfacing specifically in regards to PLMN (public land mobile network)s? I'm running out of locations to try, there's a lucrative contract in it for anyone who got the chops.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ok...so I KNOW this is a long shot... But do any of you understand Cell Modem interfacing specifically in regards to PLMN (public land mobile network)s? I'm running out of locations to try, there's a lucrative contract in it for anyone who got the chops.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Good god, when the hell did enter_repeat get turned on
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Sorry about that
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well turning off onboard video drivers did nothing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: er gpu
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Is it doing it right now?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Like, currently?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it happens when I play Overwatch so I restart really fast so I don't get banned
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Which GPU?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: RX 480
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Context from earlier: His computer crashes randomly.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: never happened with old mobo/CPU/RAM combo
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: do you have any idea what the problem is?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Google says try turning DOWN power effeciency in wattman
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i'd start at ram
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Already been there
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: swapped ram, you say?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what's the bsod message?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: RAM is fine, no BSOD message, just black screen
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, as in debugged towards ram seemed a non-issue
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No BSOD
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'll try the Wattman thing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ^^
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: black screen? is your computer still working and just video is gone?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it said 50%, but I feel that's rediculous
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, and no green flashes
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Tried swapping the cord to the MOBO output when it does it yet?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also did you check if the GPU fans were running this time?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: but i mean, if you're playing OW, sound and everything keeps going, or everything is gone?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: IIRC sound went until he alt_f4'd
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: sound persists but no new sounds
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and Alt F4 does nothing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, misremembered
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: didn't check GPU fans
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well, try opening the side and pointing a box fan at your computer and see if that helps
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'd really like to know if the GPU itself is still running when it happens, of which the fans are a good indicator
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the temp seems fine
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Meh, to be fair, GPU's don't really heat the system up
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't mean their PCB isn't hot
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Do you have a temp monitor?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: no, it would be the graphics card crashing and causing the whole system to die
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have a temp monitor but I'm not sure how to log it through a crash
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: start with the simple solutions :P big fan!
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I've seen a similar issue on my R9 380x's when airflow wasn't doing great. The entire PC was fine, but they got HOT and shutdown, which sends a SIGTERM equivalent to the MOBO and it freaks out
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is it a new motherboard and/or psu model?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Basically the MOBO really like to choose a single output, if that output is the GPU and the GPU ...pukes for lack of a better word, it'll usually try to default back to the MOBO output
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Donate sperm is all i got from that last message
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If you're able to plug your hdmi into your mobo and continue, it means it's 100% your GPU. if it doesn't, that still doesn't discount the GPU
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: oops mischan\
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: asus z170 iirc
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: PSU is old, mobo is newer. I did swap the GPU option in the BIOS
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at No Offense Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what's your psu rated for?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well, probably not a psu problem, now that i think about it.  your whole computer should go down and sound wouldn't persist if it lost power
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: maybe...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: if it prioritized power away from the 4-pin it would do something like this
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not sure what the PSU is rated for :p I want to say 750W
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: that should be totally fine
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: and simple question but you've plugged in all the power pins to the gpu, right?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'd say your rig's pulling MAYBE 500
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If he got to OW for it to crash, the answer is yes :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: also, don't put all your devices on the same rail.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, it happened again :p GPU fans on
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: I'm a fan of GPUs
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: were you playing OW when it crashed again?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: or something else graphics intensive?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: in a menu screen
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but yes
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: hm did you see where i asked to check if all the power pins are plugged in correctly? :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, did you have resource manager running when it happened?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I did see that and I did not have it running
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: poked around the event viewer, maybe?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nope. anything I should check before rebooting?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean...the more programs you run to try and catch it...the more likely it is to happen :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Throw up some GPU intensive tests like 3dmark and see if it crashes it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: wait, Raded, you mean it's just OW that crashes not your whole computer?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: whole computer
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No he gets hardlocked and has to reboot to do anything
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh, right okay, you mentioned rebooting...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alt+F4 does nothing, monitor fails to detect input, but any sounds that were ongoing persist.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not like a skipping record, but like normally. but no new sounds play, if that makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, i've had it in PUBG
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: does the computer respond to ANY input?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Unforgiven Tech: Try a hammer?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Black screen on main monitor (second monitor still displays fine) audio continues, but entirely unresponsive, and requires a force reboot
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: not in my case
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: computer responds to no input
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: so ctrl/alt/del does nothing yeah? so yeah, reboot it and see if there's anything helpful in the event viewer
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: do you have an old gpu you can throw in there?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or even no gpu
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just use the onboard to test if need be
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: looks like it might be audio driver crashing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's more info than we had..
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Are you using the built in audio or a 3rd party like AudioSwitcher?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: speaking of crashing, mushclient just crashed :O
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Faulting application name: ATKEX_cmd.exe four times in the event viewer at the time of the last two crashes
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: see, event viewer is helpful
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Holy cow
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Google is awash of similar results
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm using a USB soundcard
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what why
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Upgrade realtek drivers
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: use the onboard sound
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, your MOBO sound should be equivalent
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but it's my fancy headphones :(
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So not a soundcard then...just an in-line amp?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Otherwise I don't understand how your headphones play into it. They have either a USB or a 9mm jack, or both, right?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: headphones plug in to a thing that plugs in to the PC by USB
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What connection do the headphones themselves have?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what headphones do you have?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 9mm
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Plug those into your mobo
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Cloud-Gaming-Headset-PS4/dp/B00SAYCVTQ
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it has a 9mm jack
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it does, but length-wise not possible
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean, my setup isn't pretty anyways but it works. Razer Headphones -> Skullcandy In-line Amplifier -> MOBO USB
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So the "thing" you plug your headphones into, it just gives your volume control/mute/etc right?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yessir
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So that's an in-line amp, not a full soundcard
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And I highly doubt that's the issue
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well for now, go to your mobo manufactuer's website and update drivers/firmware/whatever
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the marketing materials say, "sound card" and I'm not that educated :p
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: or if you can't be bothered, try playing on speakers for a bit and see if it still crashes
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All my googling just says it's a known issue with an old version of the Realtek HD Audio Manager
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just upgrade that first
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: but yeah, i'd do the driver first
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Windows 10 was supposed to solve these problems for me. it's the future, dammit.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "It's 2017...why do I have to put in my PASSWORD?"
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm going to get a beer and yell at electronics while this sets up.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice at No Offense Cheezburger, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: To be fair, passwords are horrible security
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it is true.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I seem to be caught in an uninstall loop.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it uninstalls, tells me to reboot the computer and that it will run the setup again, I do that, it runs the setup again, and tells me it's uninstalling and it's time to reboot again.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the uninstaller is probably asking for admin privs right? if not, make sure to run as admin
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the user account I'm logged in as should have admin privs
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: after the uninstaller runs Realtek disappears from Device Manager
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Windows seems to be installing the driver on its own when I reboot.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well run the installer again before you reboot
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: did you build this computer yourself or did you buy it from somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: built it myself
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the driver from the ASUS website is an older version than the one Windows wants to install on its own.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what was the driver called again?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: win 10?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the thing that kept crashing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ATKEX_cmd.exe
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yes Windows 10
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what version did you download?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: installer is for 6.0.1.7899, Device Manager says 6.0.1.7910 is installed
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: which motherboard do you have?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ASUS z170. I think I've got a solution: uninstall/delete driver through device manager then run the software from the ASUS website before Windows 10 "fixes" it for me.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah try that
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: and no, z170 is the chipset, but which specific motherboard did you get?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: asus z170 pro gaming
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: device manager shows the driver version from the installer, so I think I'm good. hopefully.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: good luck
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: thanks for the help <3
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: raded did your problem get fixed?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: hasn't crashed since
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: great :D
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: since what
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but it would go a few days without crashing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: since you left it off?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well keep your fingers crossed :D
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: doc, my computer keeps crashing after i turn it on.  oh, then dont turn it on
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how do I add a tick timer to MUSHclient status bar? Is that an option I am overlooking?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: there's a plugin that does that, I do believe.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: theres a plugin for that
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think it is Aardwolf_Tick_Timer.xml
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: I don't know about mush specifically, but I know Aard gives you tne 'Tick' option to toggle it on, you could then gag it with a trigger and have that trigger make a counter.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion forces a gag into Inix's mouth.  Ahhh, blessed quiet.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: trachx called it exactly
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: hmm, the tick timer plugin was missing from the latest build i downloaded. i just grabbed the xml from a previous mushclient setup i have
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: "that's so fiendish"
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that some plugins were removed in r1930 in commit with comment "plugin purge"
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am trying to figure out how to subtract two days from the current time and retrieve the beginning of the day all while retaining the epoch time. So far, I can get it to pull back 48 hours ago on 8/16 but I am looking for the beginning of 8/16
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: any ideas? this is what i have https://codeshare.io/GqN0kq
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that will help you: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32022898/subtracting-hours-from-os-date
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically you need to get an hour and minutes and seconds and subtract them from your calculated time, that will get you 00:00 two days ago
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: wow good point/tip
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try : \\\now = os.time(); local_t = os.date("*t", now); Note(local_t.hour .. ' '.. local_t.min .. ' ' .. local_t.sec)
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to use UTC then just use os.date("!*t", now)  instead of os.date("*t", now)
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that is exactly right now!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i see then to get the seconds it would be local_t.hour * 60 * 60 + local_t.min * 60 + local_t.sec
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: i don't understand how that relates to WoW, zhalut?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: bloodelf i
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it relates to a database I am query but I want the results back in my local day/time
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: and the database is stored in utc-epoch
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: \\\now = os.time(); local_t = os.date("*t", now); start_time = now - (86400 * 2) - local_t.hour * 3600 - local_t.min * 60 - local_t.sec; print(os.date("%x %X", start_time))
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: awesome, i get it. thx Trachx
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here for a while
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: can i find the source image for the wolf in the background on a tshirt?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: btw kudos fiendish, i've had no problems with my aliases since I started letting them sync properly beore opening/closing 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: shaelynne did you ever get your settings back?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: nope...I just decided that I wanted to start fresh. I didn't lose my map information. I think I could have if I had gone trashcan digging in dropbox, but I chose not to. 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well if it's what you choose to do :P i had to do it once and it was not the most fun i've ever had
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I did discover the Pluggin Wizard yesterday though thanks to bamboo, that's been awesome for turning a group of aliases (like my enchanting ones) into a script and then sticking it in my external hard drive for safe keeping. 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Veritheia: look in worlds\plugins\images
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah, it's a pain sometimes, but I had so many alises/triggers that I never used anymore, so it's been nice to clear it up...and I have new appreciation for the ones I have to re-make!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the version of the image I have is not suitable for a shirt
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I don't have the wolf on my background =( 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i was being facetious.  really just wondered if it's one of the wolves on those wolf tshirts uhh.. people wear, sometimes
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Veritheia: it would need two more wolves 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's great to hear, Shaelynne
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: one of them! :D
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I dislike the plugin wizard. It's easy to accidentally remove all the aliases and triggers from your world file with it
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If I need to move things into a plugin, I prefer to use the copy button which grabs them as XML
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: but okay, here's a real question.  if i want to set a variable based on my character level, is there a better way than making a trigger that fires on the level up message?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: gmcp maybe?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: no wolf on background means that you have either removed the image file, unloaded the layout plugin, or...uhh...I'm sure there's a third thing but I can't remember it
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gmcp is best. I have a guide.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: documentation web page?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: abelinc.me/gmcp for the easy one }:>
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the guide may require using a newer version of the package than what is on the aardwolf website. I don't remember when I rewrote the gmcp helper
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: heh fiendish no qualms about getting technical right off the bat in your guide, huh? :P
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why the first sentence has a "skip the technical junk if you don't care" link
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the other reason for the "I don't have the wolf background" is simply the contrast ratio & brightness of the monitor...it's really hard to notice on some screens & angles
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah, it's okay. i just noticed it one day on my macbook air and realized I don't have it on my other laptots. not the end of aard to not have my wolf background =P 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: can i use if-then functions in a variable?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a variable is just a value...you use the if/then when you set the variable or when you call the variable
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, but you can use them in the trigger or alias you use to access the variable.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ah, righto
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: in an alias that's sending to script, isn't the function to send a command to the mud "send"?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Send sends to world like: Send("buy " .. wildcards.item)
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or SendNoEcho
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: hm, i get an error where it looks like it's trying to call send as a variable
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: attempt to call global 'send' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: though my command is literally   send("hold amulet")
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is a difference whether you use \\\Send("say hello") or \\\send("say hello")
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh ffs
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: case sensitive
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: note to self, case sensitive.  thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so when you type "xset mark" it throws an error ?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: does anyone know how to make mush client not log me in automatically? was thinking about making an alt.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: using mush?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Remove the character and password from your Aardwolf.mcl file. OR! Just clone your entire mushclient directory to another directory
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: wha? just to make another character? that's not a setting or something?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: alt-enter, general, connecting, no auto connect
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: alt+enter > connecting > connect > no auto-connect
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: oh. Whiew. 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm a bit confused about lua's threading / locking model.  From what I've read, everything is single threaded so that you don't need to worry about locks.  Is that correct?  Is there really no preemption?  Are things only scheduled when one thread explicitly relinquishes control?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: what's the correct way to have mapper custom exits wait for 5 seconds? I tried "<wait 5>" without the quotes and it didn't work
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: wait for 5 seconds to create the cexit or have a pause before moving?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: mapper cexit_wait 5 is the former
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: pause before moving
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: like take an action, then wait 5 seconds, then move
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I would need to look at that one
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I think I have workarounds with triggers because I was lazy
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it's not catch cexit_wait <5> or (5) or 5
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: wait(5) seems to do it. it's the space before the parentheses that was throwing me off
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thanks for talking me thru it Kallaz!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: lol sorry I was useless on the actual question :P
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: no worries. you pointed me in the right direction though
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrron Tech: hi there
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: Salutations.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: Lua does not have native support for threads, only coroutines which are necessarily cooperative. The Aardwolf MUSHclient Package does come with support for a kind of light non-interactive threading, which I use for asynchronous socket IO
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks Fiendish.  I was referring to co-routines.  So am I correct in believing that a timer will never preempt a running co-routine?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Unless the co-routine yields
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, it has to yield
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nice :)  That simplifies things quite a bit.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: If I run wine->mush from a script, it throws an error, saying the aardwolf.mcl file has an invalid path. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Does it work if you don't script it?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yup
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Fix your script, then :P
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: The mush.exe runs, but it throws that error
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: /Applications/Wine\ Devel.app/Contents/Resources/wine/bin/wine my/path/to/MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Does your script run with different environment variables?  I'm guessing your pathing is off in the script environment
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: That's my script
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Bamboo: your script isn't declaring the right initial directory
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Durel.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what durel said
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I don't understand, sorry
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient is kinda funny about how it finds its various files
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's using a relative path (rather than an absolute path) and the current directory isn't where you expect it to be when mush is starting
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a lot of things are looked for in locations that are relative to the "start directory" rather than where MUSHclient.exe happens to be
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: my script simply calls "cd [path to MUSHclient]
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: my script simply calls "cd path to MUSHclient" and then "wine ./MUSHclient.exe &" Easy peasy
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yeah. Bamboo, do what Durel just said
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ah, so cd to path, then wine the exe from that directory
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: err, cd to directory
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's a little kludgy but cd'ing to the base directory avoids a lot of potential issues
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: What is everyone talking about?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'tech -h' and find out
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Meattoad: how MUSHclient knows where to look for the files it wants to load
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: changing the pwd so the activated exe that used shortcut pathing works properly
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yey it worked
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: metria is having a melt down, and they're trying to help him, Meattoad
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Thank you all!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metria is only melting because someone poured water on him.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone remind me...I was going to make inventory serials have an off toggle or something?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think you were going to make it have a toggle so you could switch it on/off for inventory and vault individually
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: no, you were going to get us pizza
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: definitely the pizza thing
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baoine Tech: i will legit give you my address if you wanna dot hat
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baoine Tech: large pepperoni/other meat would be amazing <3
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure, give me your address. I'll tell them you want a pizza with "large pepperoni" wink wink
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baoine Tech: extra large sausage with extra cream sauce actually please
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh I'm sure you'll get all the cream you can handle.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baoine Tech: impossible, i can handle an infinite amount
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: man I had a question for fiendish earlier and now I can't remember. maybe it will come back to me. 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Do what I do.  Write down your questions for Fiendish in advance as clearly as possible.  By the time you're done explaining the problem in detail, you've probably solved the problem yourself :P
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh oh i remember 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone have the formula that converts total levels to what it would be from 1 to 201?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: each tier is 201, so divide by that?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yah, some languages have a modifier formula that would work but the 201 402 603 confuse it
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Are you looking for the mod operator?  Use a percent
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: For example: 500 % 201
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Wait...I just re-read your question and I think I may have misunderstood.  Are you asking how to find out your current level based on your total levels?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, you're correct
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's still just total levels mod 201
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm not sure if he wants to calculate his number of remorts or the current level
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: for number of remorts, just divide
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: can finger me, look at a progress reporter for how I do it :)
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: integer divide, which in lua requires math.floor or string formatting
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, you would use this: math.floor(500 / 201) to calculate from 500 total levels
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: this is a ghetto way (case when level % 201 = 0 then 201 else level % 201 end) as level_t,
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it is inside a query
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: r1935 out
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am running the latest version of MUSHclient and I noticed that the ability to input text freezes when entering multiple commands. like, I will goto an area and while I am running, if I type look, east, west, it doesnt actually appear in the input bar until I get to my destination
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know if this is an option to toggle? i like the old functionality more
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I wanna see the input i am typing and the cursor moving
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I would guess from waht you say that the problem is lag.
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yep maybe. but it doesn't happen in the old version
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: it could be some kind of conflict. I don't expect it to be the way it is supposed to work.
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thanks for the response. Ill try a fresh install to see if it happens
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: yeah, I would try that.
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: OK, the input cursor issue has been resolved. I downloaded the latest version from fiendish, added my old stuff (db's, plugins, saved stats) and all is well
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Anyone use MoviePass?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there a lua pattern matching equivalent to regex's {}? e.g. ^[a-z]{3-12}$
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: Does anyone familiar wish MUSH client know why my double trigger isnt playing? It used to work, no changes made, sound file still there, Test still works, note muted, but still doesnt play
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first check to make sure it's still enabled
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: double was changed from 10 minutes to 15 recently as well
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, check to see if your trigger mentions how many minutes
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there a lua pattern matching for number of occurrences? (i.e. regex's {})
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: it is enabled
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: it does not mention how many minutes
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i take it no such pattern matching functionality
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you triggering on, the "hear me" message?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can use regex in lua
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if in a plugin trigger/alias:  regexp="y"
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: otherwise just check the box if thru mush
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not using mush
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: using string.match
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you using %d etc instead of /d ?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: ""^Below the flare\, you hear (.*?)$""
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger/alias regexp="y" is not lua...that's MUSHclient trigger match...
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: https://www.lua.org/pil/20.2.html
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well i thought he wasnt enabling it for his client which would make it not work
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: Aye, im using mush
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and according to the patterns link you posted, there is not the ability to match a particular number range of occurances of an "atom"
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: doubles just happened again and i didnt even see a hear me message? is that message on a channel that i might have turned off?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, that'd do it if you're not even seeing the messages it definitely wouldn't fire ;-)
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: well im not seeing the message, what chan is it on
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: info global
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type just "info" to see which info channels you have on
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: thanks tech
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok sorry, i guess you cannot use {} for length of pattern
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: red: it'd be inefficient, but you can get creative with your pattern to emulate the behavior...put <low end> repetitions in "hardcoded" (not optional), then add optional additional ones, and finally do a check for "not too many"...
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but you could always do (%d%d%d) for example if you wanted to catch 3 numbers
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %d%d%d+, followed by "doesn't match %d%d%d%d%d%d%d" to catch 3-6 numbers, for example (of course if it were just that, you could check length or even value between 100 and 999999, but you get the idea)
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: does lua allow for a doesn't match option?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can't seem to find that
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if match is false...
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so two patterns
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh well, thanks anyway
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you'd be using lua logic to narrow down the pattern to what you want
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than doing it in the match itself
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: have you tried a negative lookahead assertion? e.g. ^(?!INFO:.*)(?!$)(.*)$ will match any line that is neither an info message nor a blank line
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: negative lookahead will evaluate to true if it does not match
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: so you can program "doesn't match" within a regex
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're not in regex...
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: okay, nevermind .. didn't catch start of question then
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, redryn was looking to see if he could do something like regex's {n,m} limitation on the number of repetitions of a pattern within Lua itself
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Not without, as you already said, basic pattern matching with a fallback
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vapore Tech: I'm trying to migrate from a much older version of mushclient. can I just copy my Aardwolf.db over to the latest or do I need to do some kind of a migration?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just run the installer and install over your current mushclient. (If you're concerned, copy the entire folder as a backup)
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vapore Tech: I got the zip version and currently moving settings and plugins over. but don't want to loose the db obviously. so copying the old one ove should be fine you think?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why did you ask, if you are going to do it your way anyway?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Copy *.db and Aardwolf.Mcl
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vapore Tech: cool. that was exactly what I was looking for. thank you very much
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurdock Tech: Does anyone here have a GUI for Mudlet? The old one on the wiki doesn't seem to work.
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: almost noone uses mudlet
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: anyone know where to get the plugin to tell when moons will appear?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you tried googling "plugin 3moons aardwolf" ?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. no becauseI didn't know it was just for the three moons. my apologies.
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish drops his pants and gives you the vertical smile!
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: did you know 80% of mudders stay horizontal 90% of the time?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: btw Fiendish why have you removed ticker counter plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: your vertical is someones horizontal. thats what Einstein said
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: trachx: because the status area at the bottom of the screen isn't really the right place for a persistent message like time to next tick :\
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I see, still some users lack that plugin in new version
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only because they're installing fresh instead of using the installer to upgrade their previous install
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but yes I know what you mean
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for now at least the plugin still exists. I just don't want to include it in the base package until it gets redone to be less prone to collision with output from other plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but a person upgrading from a previous version shouldn't actually lose the plugin, because they should be telling the installer to install on top of a previous installation instead of making a new one. and the installer doesn't delete files. It just chooses to not install certain files if they already exist
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: Maybe wrong channel, but does someone have a link they can drop to the consider plugin? I am trying to patchwork the old stuff I am finding on the Gammon forums for MUSH, but I keep getting errors.
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: in LUA, inside a function, if I declare a variable as local (e.g., local x = 0), do I need to use "local" if I want to change the variable within that function, and after it was declared as local?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: no, and because it is inside a function it is a private variable
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: to modify the variable from the outside you would have to provide a method.
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: you can't modify a variable in a function from the outside, it ceases to exist once the function concludes
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: wrong, I use that technique all the time to create lua objects.
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: it is called a closure
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AkcuL Tech: i have a problem
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AkcuL Tech: i accidentally pressed something and now all my toolbars are all over and i cant move them. i also type like bold letters in the cmd line
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AkcuL Tech: resetaard doesnt work
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AkcuL Tech: well i can move them but only around top half of screen
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AkcuL Tech: ill try restarting aard
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurdock Tech: Does anyone know where I can find a Mudlet GUI for Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: What is the text to put into trigger to change a variable value?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: for mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celebrity Tech: SetVariable ("target","%1")
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: SetVariable(variableName, value)
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: thank you! :)
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celebrity Tech: if the trigger is: something *
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celebrity Tech: if the value is in your mush variable, then  SetVariable ("target",yvariable)
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celebrity Tech: SetVariable ("target",@myvariable)
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have a timer in MUSH that loads with a default time of 30 seconds. I am using SetTimerOption and SaveState() to update the seconds but the revised seconds' value resets back to 30s when I reload the plugin. Is there a way, in LUA, to permenantly change the default time of a timer?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Lua isn't an acronym
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: what does LUA stand for?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: lua is a progamming language
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Mudd, im trolling... its cool :)
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: im done now
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see "What's in a name?" on https://www.lua.org/about.html
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: got one!
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: is there a good plugin for when you get disarmed?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: is there any other way to get options for blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: how to i get spellups to use words instead of cast 116 or whatever?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Type 'spellup' and don't use either
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: it still said cast 140 cast 155 etc..I'm a tard when it comes to figuring out the why lol
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Sounds like you're using a plugin that intercepts the built-in mud command 'spellup'
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: yeah the winkle one.ill  have to see how to configure that thing
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Plugins will probably use spell numbers, it's easier
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: alright ty
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: In MUSHclient, when enabling a timer, does it execute the send_to/script or does it only do it after the first iteration of the timer completes?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Rezit Tech: What is the file again that you have to move over to get your aliases and triggers in a new version of mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: if i remeber correctly that would be the world file
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eukanuba Tech: I reboot my computer after listening to gangnam style and it remembers I use to listen to Gucci's lemonade song and plays it after I restore Motzilla firefox's memory... How do I get it to remember Gangnam style as well?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: how to remove after a run (end running)?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: anyone around
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: move along please
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: is there I script to monitor how many of certin item you have in a bag? or command?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: inv keyword bagname
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: in mush, how obtain value of mud alias?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: obtain?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: i have a simple alias on mud (command alias). I need value of this alias in a alias in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: um.. try ourvariable
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I don't understand what would be the value of a mud alias
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: um.. try @yourvariable
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: and toggle expand variables on
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: are you using Send() in your alias?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i dont know exactly what you mean. the simplest way i know is just: scan arget    ... so it uses the "target" variable in mush
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: @target... damn
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: I'm on my Mac.  Safari says I have two porn sites open on 'iCloud Tabs' which is probably true, but I don't want to be reminded of them.  How do I close them?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: in lua/mush how can i to put in table the result of a command.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd have to parse the result, inputing each of its values into the table
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH doesn't know what is "the result of a command", so it needs to trigger on the lines individually
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless the command gives GMCP output...in that case, it's automatically added to the gmcp table
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: oh rofl thx for reply
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: hi. when i log in today, i saw some messages that my mapper is being updated. and now, my map is as if i just started the game
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Did you recently attempt to update from an older version?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: no, it looks like it did it on its own
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type "checkversion" please
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: when i log in today, it showed messages like Updating mapper database schema to v2.. all the way to v11
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1825
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I am familiar with the process that you are describing. Now I need to know what happened in your recent past to cause it.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it showed the database schema updating that much, then it means the client found an original map database and not the one you think you should have
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means that you likely moved some files around. Maybe you renamed something? Maybe you recently tried to update and didn't do it right? Maybe something else.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: i was playing fine yesterday, and even through the weekend. today, it showed some messages when starting a campaign so i closed the window then opened it again then it started updating stuffs
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: here's a quick test... go out into a continent room and then type bigmap off
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: i don't think i changed anything manually. last update that i did over the weekend was enabling the S&D plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: but it was working until today
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you go to a continent room and type 'bigmap off', do you see continent rooms already mapped or not?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: let me try but i have been dependent on the map too much, would need time to go to an exit :)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least learn how to get out of aylor without relying on the map :p
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: continent is showing
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you see continent rooms filled in when you type bigmap off?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: trying bigmap off
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: continent rooms are not mapped
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that means the mapper did not find your old database and had to create a new one
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: can i restore from backups?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Two things could cause this. Either the file was actually deleted, or you changed the world name to be something other than Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Did you recently change the world name?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If you press Alt+1 does it say just "Aardwolf" in the world name box?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: wait... i think you are on a right track. i did not change the world name, but i noticed it is named u now
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: whereas the old one indicates aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: change the world name to Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and reload the plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: i mean in the top of the client
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also save
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: where can i do it?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I just told you. Press Alt+1
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheriff Shindo hands Fiendish a beer
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Or through the menus, Game->Configure->MUD Name/IP Addresses
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: ok. trying
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: will save and close/open the client
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: alright it is working now
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: yay!!
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: i meant the map is showing now. i did not even have to reload the plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can type 'bigmap on' now if you want
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or 'bigmap help' to see commands for the bigmap plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: one last thing just to be safe. to reload the plugins, i just disable them and load them again, right?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: you mentioned earlier to reload the plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+Shift+P, highlight the plugin, click the Reinstall button
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: thanks again. really appreciate it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no problem. I'm glad you caught me online.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: i should donate something to help keep the site up. how can i do it?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: help donate
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: ok. thanks again
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: since I see that donations are closed right now, you might want to contact Lasher first
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: ok. will need to create a paypal first over the weekend. will contact hiim this weekend then
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: r1936 with a small bug fix
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only matters if you use 'bigmap unmerge'
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: anyone here who can get to the gaardian website?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I just asked Liberabout it recently and he says it's down.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: the site or their domain?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: because google dns cannot resolve them
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Does it matter?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: the domain, I'd say.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I tried tracerouting to gaardian.com and it times out.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: thanks byrantha...and yes  bamboo, it does matter.  if the site is down, there is no way to get to them. if there is no dns, we could get to the site via ip
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: But would you really bother accessing the site using the IP?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: if there were DNS issues, and the site itself was up and running properly, sure. you could.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, you could. But would you?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I personally would, ifI had immediate need of the site. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: i would because it is accessible
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Interesting
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, most websites are totally inaccessible without DNS regardless of whether or not you know the IP address (gaardian's website IP address is 66.33.196.163...it's a Dreamhost server)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: thanks abelinc. looks like they were hit with a DDoS attack
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more specifically, most websites would be totally inaccessible to standard web browsers without DNS resolution, regardless of whether or not you know the IP address (you can "fake it" locally with a hosts file or use more-advanced tools though)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway gaardian is back!
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. how inconvenient.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: glad it's back.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: best is just mirror their website 
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't mirror their sql queries though...
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the maps do work fine offline when downloaded
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that also iwuvaard.org is hosted at same hosting provider
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I love my "iwuvaardeq" command to query their database :-)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: is that some kind of mush plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, I don't use MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh that's right, I recall having this convo with you before, I think.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommend MUSH for most people, but I'll likely never switch from what I've been using for 27 years :-)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gaardian maps, including the VI maps, are all generated with javascript, so it should be usable offline after initially fetching the area data
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least in theory
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, I've used them that way
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (not the VI ones, but the regular ones)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure they use the same data variables
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: damnit. now I have to make r1937
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (unrelated)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: anyone know under which plugin would be the auto hunt script?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a couple
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast has one, and S&D includes one
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I use S&D, and I love it.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok cool Maybe ill look into the one of those, i was trying to use it as a guide for creating a script that would call a variable
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: never used the auto-hunt thing though, I don't have hun tyet.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: hunt yet.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D will also do hunt trick, which is similar enough (instead of "move a room and hunt again", it does "increment #.x and hunt again")
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh yes. the ht alias is seriously awesome
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: OK thanks!  im just looking for some real basic script to use as an example to make one for opening a door, like if i do open n, and it fails i want it to keep trying to open n!  I know i need the failed messages buyt that seasyjust as an example
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have mush then you just do: mapper cexit open e;;e
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not see any point to keep trying opening doors that failed
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you want to auto pick-lock or bash door
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: that was an example, not what i wanted!  i just wanted to see an example like that in actual code or plugin so i can try and do one of my own
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just implement simple state machine
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you want complete bot plugin, then PST
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: but yes a pick lock one would be great
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: since there is a command and a fail
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a couple possible fails, though
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is simple state machine
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you just add in your alias #pick <direction> : state = 1, direction = n, send ("pick n")
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and then you enable triggers that will catch message and execute pick_lock_script
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you now that if pick lock failed then again Send("pick " .. direction)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: fiendish, Sharptracker v3.6h (not hadar's) doesn't work in latest builds, it does on 1825, do you think you will be able to make it 
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: Hwy guys im using starlings version of S&D, how do I fix the error I just received. Alias function "quick_kill" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: raises some errors, I will compile a list later and send as note
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does Sharptracker 3.6h use fake channels?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh, errors?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah show me the code and errors
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: principium: you load the plugin again, and you need to find the *real* error, which was before that message
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: what is the command for help on eqsets by bash
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Principium: "the had a previous error" part is important
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: bast
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try beq help
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: fake channel (at least tracker one by menda) works pretty well in latest IIRC, but sharptracker uses report channel as gt (or tracker)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: get me the code and error messages
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: I have them, sorry my question wasn't elaborate enough :P
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: what was the help command for the eqsets?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eqs help
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: anyone know how to turn off (end running) after I run?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: it's somewhere in tags. type tags for the list.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: nope, ive tried
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you recently disable a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or change clients?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: no, i havent done anything, just like it show up (end running) i was like where did it come from
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're seeing that message show up, then something is wrong, and it may be difficult to figure out what. the message is caused by the mapper, but you should not be seeing it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper uses it to know when a long sequence of exits is finished
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: i know, i copied the mapper database from my main and i havent seen it there on my main, here just showed up like 2 days ago
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how long has it been happening?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 2 days, eh
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: are you seeing you entered: echo {end running} or just {end running}?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: just end running
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: it looked like from aardwolf not my client
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes, the client asks the mud to echo it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you should never see it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: its gone!
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: omg, i dont know what happened:p
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: Fiendish happened :P
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type 'prompt data' and tell me what the last 5 characters of your rawcolor prompt looks like
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: obviously
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: i copied the excatly same prompt from my main
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure, but please do it anyway just in case
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: its %c@w
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: %c@w is fine
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: its what i have on both prompts
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sometimes people have a hidden space after the %c and don't realize it, but then it would say %c @w
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or even %c@w @w
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: yeah, i know, annoying broken line
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: Seems I came in on the tail end of a mapper conversation that I should have been here for the entire time.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, if that's not it, then I don't have a good guess for now
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Aseigan's weird actions.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: neither do I. I just found it so weird that i asked 2 days ago, no answer, yesterday no answer today finally answer on my question but it disappeared
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my wife complains about that too
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "her: I swear it was broken", "me: I guess I scared it away".
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: good one, haha
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it happens again, maybe copy/paste a section of output where it happens and send it to me
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: i will do it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hopefully I'll have more ideas about what could be causing it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's called a PEBCAK error :P
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Or PEBKAC...seen it both ways
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: rofl. pebkac, I haven't heard that term in forever.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: excuse me, im sorta bad with lua terminology
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: problem exists between keyboard and chair
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I got to close a story at work today with literally "ID 10 T"
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's a tech joke, not related to Lua directly :P
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Dude reported his hardware wasn't working, so he sent it in. THERE WAS MOLD GROWING ON THE PCBS
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: He clearly got it wet...more than once
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: omg
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: uh. wow.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What interested me though, is what was the mold eating in there to grow?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Surely they don't eat silicone substrates
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: silicon*
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: might be something that the owner dropped on the HD
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: This is a specialized embedded hardware for tracking Endurance Athlete races. He shouldn't have ever had it open anyways
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also waterproof (to a degree, it's just housed in a pelican case)...so he managed to do...well everything that he shouldn't have.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: im sure he lost his warranty?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Not my department :P
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I just write code, and occasionally assemble the things.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone have a good Lua technique for creating columns in a window (MUSHclient)?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thus far i have been doing string.format("%-12s", v.value)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's about the best way, honestly.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Heh, playing aard on a new Gaming keyboard, its backlit with rainbow colors, yet its very hard to get used to after 8 months of a normal keyboard
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Keys feels smaller and mre sprinngy
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The one thing I distess is laptop keybaords, its raised to low and you cant get a good feel 
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: After wiing C drive and reinstalling windows 7 i ultimattely got rid of my malware, Whenever I connected to the internet by GPU usage sky rocketed to 99%. I suspect it was a bitcoin miner
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: - h10
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here for a bit
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No problems ere, mush is running lke a dream
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: same i love it
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Wel I like to find bugs and report them. Im dissapointed atm
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Also taking suggestions, per tech note 7505, on what should happen before asking Lasher to review an update for the aardwolf website
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: does it involve completing Mount Midori-yama in a Ninja Warrior challenge
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if not add that
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: I was curious as to why there is no auto updater for the client?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: There is.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, not fully auto, you have to download, but you can install right over
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But he tried the auto-update, and it failed.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wrote one, but there were too many complications from different operating system versions for me to deal with on my own.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: (Failed as a project in general, not speaking to his skill)
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Ah okay, just always wondered that. Ty for the response :)
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so now I have an installer that will update any previous version to the latest
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: iPhone question time: manage storage says I have 11.69GB used and 136.1MB available. when I add everything up that it lists, I only get 7.5GB. where's my other 4GB of space?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Get something other than an iPhone
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Reserved system storage
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: iOS
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: for updating the iOS
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I update to the newest iOS, do I get my bitz back?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Usually, the new iOS is bigger than the previous iOS
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, apple intentionally includes more and more bloat to phase out older phones.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: iOS likes to download the update and have it sit there until I delete or install it.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: not even being a hater...although I am..that's true
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Google is telling me 10.3 does free up space though relative to 10.2.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's a lie
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like my Nexus 6. It just got 7.1.1 yesterday.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger gives you a cake.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've had cake. not all cakes are lies.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm still rocking a Note5 :P
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What you had wasn't cake. Merely the shadow of the uncertainty of cake on the 3rd dimension.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: Still on 6?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hell if I know, I don't update because then I gotta re-root it
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alright well I just deleted all of the music from my phone. maybe that will force me to re-install iTunes on my PC and actually update my phone.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger sighs.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All the sheeple
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've used multiple Android phones and multiple iPhones. I prefer iPhone for personal use.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Android for me.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I never liked my Galaxy 7
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger moves poop!  . ..<<!Boomsplat!>>.. .
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: err wait, it was the Note7 that sploded right?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, the note. the regular 7 was fine :p
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Like I said, still rocking a Note5... I don't know anymore :P
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's so perfectly suited for playing pokemon on the pooper.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have a Kyocera Duraforce now and like it better except for the fact that the volume buttons don't change "alert" volume for some weird reason.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No dropdown arrow on the volume dialog?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there is when it pops up on the screen but why would I only want to quickly turn down some volume?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I like that feature, TBH. It allows me to lower music volume, but still have my alarm or phone ringer able to be heard
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: like playing pokemon on the pooper
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's a weird, unintuitive design decision.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I really like Apple's UI on the phone. I want things to be quick and not have to spend a lot of time customizing things. just personal preference.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I would vote yes on shitter being a violation
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: omg
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm so dumb.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is it possible in MS Word to have words to be large and decrease in size as it goes from left to right?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Not without a word art
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Some word arts do exactly that, though
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: Thanks. I thought it was in there. However, it is 2013. So, it is hidden.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 5 minutes, mushclient questions go.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: What are you thoughts on intergrating S/D as part of the base client?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SnailImm Anaristos peers intently at Dethavin.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: need to make a trigfer to retreat <e n w s> whatever i input then it keeps trying to go the direction if it fails of whatver direction i input
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can elaborate if you want
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I can't remember if I pitched this idea to you or if it was anothe idea...but it would really like to be able to toggle which info messages are on the communication chat window and which infos are only in the main window. 
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: No.. no need not after the staring I just got *hides in corner*
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there an easy way to see the status of triggers/timers/aliases in a plugin?  All of that info is easily available in the main script, but you have to get that data programatically in a plugin.  I'm thinking about making a plugin to report that info for debugging purposes.  Does something like that already exist?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: To elaborate, I'll do it when Lasher asks me to do it.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You mean with the somewhat newish info subdivisions?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne ^
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah. so I want info on the comm log for a lot of stuff, but man levels/pups spams it out so badly i have to turn them off
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yeah. I do need to add controls for those. I just haven't gotten thre yet
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: and it'd be nice to see when my friends die on my chat window so I could help them....but everyone else can die on my main screen. 
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: just gag those specific ones if you don't want to see them
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: one of the main pain points for plugins is that stored data isn't readily visible
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: for instance I put a lot of extra labor into the text substitution plugin just to be able to add/list/remove the subs and gags that had been stored
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: no easy way around that really, except to write some code to list the things you want listed
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any luck on the retreat option?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: you might try MUSHclient's built in debug function though
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: try typing \\\Debug("summary")
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: \\\Debug("summary")
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oops :)
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: the list of plugins will have some hyperlinks Al Va Tr (alias, variable, trigger, ...)
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ooh.  That looks interesting.  Thanks, I'll play around with that.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: sorry was there a question?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: In public please
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you mean luck?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: pffft secret questions! 
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: having a retreat trigger in aardmush, is ridiculous
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Oh. You want help writing a retreat script?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: need help writing a retreat trigger/script i would like to have it work like I ((( ret (direction)  then i put in the possible fails and if one of the fails happen it tris the direction again
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Well, I don't know what the output of retreat is exactly, but there are two possible scenarios...
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If a retreat failure tells you which direction you tried, then you only need a simple trigger
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when the trigger detects a failure in a particular direction, try again.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh sorry i mised up your Q with the s&d integration Q.  apologies for sounding stupid
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Otherwise you need an alias and a trigger, where the alias stores the direction and then the trigger uses the stored direction
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i need the latter option
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: this sounds a bit similar to the targeting alias demo. One sec.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8084  <- this link has instructions for making an alias that assigns something (in your case, a direction) to a variable that you can then reference in a trigger
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks!  and it will include in case it fails to right?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: At the end of the instructions, where it says to make an alias that sends "kick @target", you will instead make a trigger that matches on the failure message and sends "retreat @target"
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: In the target alias, instead of matching on "target *", you would match on "retreat *"
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hopefully that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: it does and then do it for multiple different failure message?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know what failure messages there are, but I suppose so yes
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if there is more than one, you'll want a trigger for each or a way to write a trigger pattern that matches them all using some more complicated regex
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks man!  
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: more info about Debug -> https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=Debug
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok signing off
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Why am I getting plugin error messsages? I didn't change anything.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Like half my plugins aren't loading, my tick timer, my S&D, and my status bar is stuck and immoval on the middle of my screen
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: omg you can get lua to return values like a function really should be able to
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does dsub work in the blowtorch version of lua?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: is there a way that i can type K and kill a mob in the room with evil alignment without typing its name
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: how or is there website that i can learn
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you would need to consider/look/scan the room, then use the output to populate a variable
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need process items enclosed in roomchars tags
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: hmm let me re ask this i am a super noob with anything about the mush client or coding and would like some help to be able to do that K thing
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: do a google search for mushclient triggering, there is a whole forum devoted to doing stuff in mushclient, not all aard-based
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: not sure if there is something out there that targets only certain align
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: even if its like the first mob in room that would be fine with me
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: ill look at that website thank you guy/girls
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is conw plugin: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9681
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when you enter a room it sends "con", then loads mobs into window, so you can just click mob to kill
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: ahh ill look into that also 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using roomchars is smarter, but that Aardwolf_Consider_Window is a good start
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: geez. is 7 years old and i paid 15k for this to be written:)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you cannot code or not willing to do so - just pay other player for it
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you ask bing , then "conw mushclient" will also give you auto room nuker , it seems it was based on  that consider_window
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: trachx i did what the thing said to install the update but it gave me an error
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry cannot help you with that plugin, I guess it should work with some old version of mush
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: as i typed this it also said compile error immediate execution
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you could copy-paste error message on pastebin, so maybe there will be somebody that will help you with that
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: what do i copy tho i did the whole thing in the brown box
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually you just copy-paste whole message so for example if you do echo "start", then load plugin, echo "end" - you copy paste whatever is between "start" and "end"
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, you need put plugin source on https://pastebin.com/
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: okay ill read up and try it out thank you for your time 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just try it, type : echo "start" 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that will just cause mud to display "start", you can use say "start" and say "end" as well, that is just so you know what to cut (everything between "start" and "end")
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: i get this 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: Compile error
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: lol that did not work hehe
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: its okay ill mess with things and hope it works out
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that "compile error" contains more details, like line or exact error message
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is why you need to put both plugin source and whole error message
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: like u want to see the error?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: lol this is over my computer smarts i think ill just give up :P 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: which plugin did you try, can you link it ?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9681
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: i copyed tho whole thing in the brown bow.. then made a notpade .xml file and put it into plugins folder then in mushclient opened file/plugins then added that file then BOOM error
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: box*
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: im wondering if i should have copy starting from when it says < trigger > or would it not have matterd
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: nah there is a bug in the plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: gimme a second
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: line 448 sPat = "[%w\-]+$" needs an extra slash like this sPat = "[%w\\-]+$" the same applies to line 450
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: change those and it dhould load fine
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: so ill just have to add a \ on like 450
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: ill try it now
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: so now its says consider_window.xml installed added plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: sounds like it worked maybe
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just enter some room and you should see new miniwin with mobs
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: i dont see the mini window
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is possible that it is behind other windows
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if that plugin was loaded then it created mini win
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try Window -> Cascade (warning: it will break your current layout)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: okay i see a very little window that says consider all (kill)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just go to some area with mobs
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: but i dont change as i walk around oz
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try: con
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: nothing its still the same
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: it should open a small window called consider all in the top right
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try: conw
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: yeah i got the small window that says consider all (kill)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: YESS!!!!!! conw works
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you need use "conw auto" for auto refresh
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: how do i do conw auto refresh
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: "conw auto" should switch on/off auto consider
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: its on now but does not change the small box
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: nvm this is awsome already thank you all for ur time this is really cool :)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: change match="\[Exits\:.+$" to match="\[ Exits\:.+$"  <---- space before E
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then reload plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: ill try that
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: yay it works lol but it give me extra promtps 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: what is echo nhm 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: man this is so cool thank you guys again 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: i got the consider all pluging it works good but now i get this echo nhm and its like it pushes enter 3 times so it takes awhile to move between rooms is there a fix to that or is it just like that
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: so I'm working on adding the Aard consider window that was talked about here earlier, (and I've fixed the typos in it that were discussed before) but I can't get it to instal. I get a line 248: Error parsing script (Cannot load). This line is the begining of the CDATA block, and specifically is the <script> tag. That's all that's on the line. Any ideas? I copied the contents and the ONLY changes I made were those suggested for line 448 and 450 that were suggested earlier, so I'm not sure what's wrong. 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: try this one https://pastebin.com/VQwg5Cd9
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: hah, it loaded
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: thanks!!!
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: your welcome
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: In Mudlet with the MAG script, how can I stop shift+letter moving me in a random direction?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: e.g. shift+a moves me west, shift+e moves me up, etc.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: those aren't random directions, sounds like a wasd setup from first person shooters
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i think tavvia understands that, but doesn't want the functionality
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: Yes, how do I stop it?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: It's annoying if I'm typing a tell/channel message, and suddenly I'm in a room with an aggro mob!
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: not a lot of mudlet users these days. i'm trying to look around for an answer
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: are these things listed in the keys section of the mudlet settings? (gotten there by clicking the keys button at the top)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: Yes.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: It worked.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: np. mudlet does have a wiki manual, but it is pretty general in explanation
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrPeanut Tech: how long are idle characters retained in the system
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: check out 'help archive''
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: after almost 20 years, we had to start archiving unused newbie accounts because it was getting hard for people to create new characters with sensible names.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeap all the good names like Mendaloth were taken!
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrPeanut Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrPeanut Tech: that was what I was going to name this character
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: ok so I have win10 and i think it sucks? How do I clean out cookies and why is it so damn laggy lol
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: could the lag be due to your computer not being able to handle everything you're running? how much RAM do you have? what's your processor speed? etc. win 10 runs great on my machine with 8GB of RAM and a quadcore 2.8 GHZ processor.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Slightly laggy here also -- Saturday is when more movie streamers access the internet
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: doesn't akamai cache video?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on where you're streaming from...but caching video only impacts the streaming servers, not the rest of the Internet access...
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a Movies+TV streaming product sold that uses the internet - as more of those units are sold, anticipate more lag, especially in net-neutrality is gone
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: akamai's business is to stream from "closer to you", and to take load off backend servers...but if everyone in your neighborhood is streaming video (or sucking torrents, etc.), it'll still impact your Net experience because you're all coming down one "uplink" pipe ("neighborhood" being defined differently for various providers and technologies)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the product sells for a once-only price of $200 $250 $300 (depending on internal ram) and does not require payments to SatelliteTV and cableTV 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a $25 pwer month optional option for access to 500 tv channels -- which is far far cheaper than what some TV providers are charging
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i thought akamai added servers as needed to comply with TOS
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: adding servers has nothing to do with it, mudd...again, that just takes load off the provider's backend, it doesn't help if your Internet is slow...
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: are you slowing down the internets again
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i'll do my part & turn off the Big'Uns channel
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the $25 per month provider uses that revenue to pay other channel providers for legal permission to access those 500 channels
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if everyone on your street [using the same provider] is using max bandwidth, it'll impact everything you do online...whether the thing you're trying to access subscribes to akamai's content distribution network or not, and there's nothing akamai or anyone else can do about it (except increase pipes or decrease "cell" size)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz: the question becomes: "are those 500 channels the ones I actually care about, or are they just filler to inflate numbers?"
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: does anyone know of a good plugin to help sort aarch items ?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What do you want to sort by?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: by number would be good. its a pain to do it with the current keywords they have
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sorted by number: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/Aarchaeology
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: that info is also found on help aarch rewards. but thats not what im looking for
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: how do you unlock miniwindows from being moved?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it's all in how they are coded.  what window?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: My stat bar - it teleported to the middle of my screen and I locked it in position so it can't be moved around, which means I can't dragi t back.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Never mind, got it - aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i see theres 192 players online and 188 use compression, so obviously the rest is using telnet since this program dont compress?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: this is peculiar. playing a proper 3d game. capping 30fps is so much more relaxing on the eyes than uncapped
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the 30fps is likely more synced with the 60 hertz of the north american electricity system (if the cheaply-designed monitor or tv is synced to the 60 hz)(50 hz in europe australia)
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Anyone know why mush would say a plugin's state file is not an xml file?(It wasn't modified and has the .xml extension)
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what's this state file have in it?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Saved variables. It's happening for every plugin.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: do the files have the xml header? something like this: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and possibly this: <!DOCTYPE muclient>
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and maybe even this : <muclient>
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you might have had something come through and strip that out/remove the header?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: has the first two (xml version="1.0" and !DOCTYPE muclient
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is this file one you can redownload from somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Backup of mush worked, i'm just curious why all of the plugins(not just one individual plugin) would suddenly throw this error.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you had mentioned the state file wasn't the only one with this behavior?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you have a backup of the whole mush dir?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my guess is something modified the core expected format for plugin files
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's unlikely something changed all of your plugin files
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: I keep several, but the problem was on someone else's mush. They had a backup of the whole mush folder, yea
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but he's talking about the state files, which reside else where
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: are you on windows and did you download the files? they could be flaged as dangerous by windows
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what happens if you delete the state files and start again
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: windows 8
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: right click one of them and look for something about security on the general page, can't remember the name
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Says it happened when he installed plugins on the backup. Gave an error, but reloading the plugin a second time fixed it.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: good to hear its solved then
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Any idea what would have caused it?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: either a mismatch between plugin and state file or maybe access rights
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: access rights sounds likely given that the file was transferred elsewhere
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: reinstall likely recreated the file with him as owner
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arch-Angel Castiel nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: state file also stores the mush version
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so if that differed/or he upgraded after the fact, could have caused a problem
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: He says same mush version before and after("exact same one I was always using")
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually the "not an xml file" message is because of how you download a plugin, messing with some of the characters (the < and > being turned into fancy versions) or end of line characters
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: He says it worked this morning, he went out, came home and all his plugins threw that error.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing that could do it is if you're using something like dropbox, and have it opened on multiple computers, or open it on the second one before it's done syncing
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: anyone around that can help me figure out why the gaardian's site won't work for me?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: change your DNS server
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Define "doesn't work for you"
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: clear cache, etc
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i refer you to my first suggestion
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: that's the error I get. I googled it. looks pretty straight forward.  thank you
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: looks like I need to raise my administrator settings (weird) to reset winsock
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have to do the same when I hack the mainframe.. so makes sense to me..
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: I'm a lawyer, not a techie.  the techie went to work :(
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: if you can make it through law school, i should hope you can follow googled instructions
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: Oh I can :) just googled it again.  restarting.  Thanks for helping.  I'm also running on little sleep.  Working fulltime with a newborn around
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: typically if you have a connection but can't resolve a website, you just need to change your DNS server (usually you want to automatically detect, or set to Google's DNS)
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: googling those will give you instructions
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: alright after restarting my computer (wow windows updates, thanks) I updated the DNS and got it fixed.  thank you all for your assistance!
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: anyone knows how can i get the map back on mushclient, seems to have lost it
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the point and click one?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: press ctrl+shift+p and check that aardwolf_gmcp_mapper is in the list and enabled
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: it is enabled
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: all my other windows are ok, some how the mapper dispeared
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then it sounds like it is hiding
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or try reloading it
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and by hiding i mean behind some other window
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i have a feeling that it has gone off my screen, previously i was using 27inch monitor, now i am on a laptop
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: which i cant drag it back when i cant see it
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can reset the layout with aardreset or resetaard  i can never remember which it is
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: yes! its resetaard, now i see it :)
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone here used reactjs?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tearlach shakes his head.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I went through a Windows 10 update, and now I have lost the status bar from the bottom of Mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: how do I get it back?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost thanks No Offense Cheezburger heartily.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: is there a command to turn on and off entire groups of triggers?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes, you use the groupname part in each trigger and hten for example EnableTriggerGroup('HunterGroup',false)
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: where it says false you can replace with 1/0 as well
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: awesome so that can be done from command line as well as from a script
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can do it from the command line if you prepend it with ///
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I had seen it from plugins but didnt realize it worked from command line as well
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: \\\
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Sorry, yeah \\\
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger is too used to Unix.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa rapidly nods twice at No Offense Cheezburger, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you could write an alias that takes the inout to swithc it, for example hunting 1 would swithc huntinggroup on and hunting 0 would turn it off
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but what happens when a groupname trigger is turned off while that groupname trigger is active in midprocess of input from the server
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it finishes running the current function and doesn't fire any more after that
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: for me I want certain spellup stuff on when CPing, but off when XPing
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe, but the old zmud never seemed work properly if trigger classes were turned on and then soon off somewhat rapidly - state-variables were safer
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but then the old zmud suffered from "forgetting what was being done" glitches in some circumstances, usually when overwhelmed by too much input from the server
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and turning trigger-classes on or off seemed plagued by a delayed response or didn't do the flip 
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: state-variables get updated immediately, so no delayed response
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: im getting back Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory after trying to check inventoryu
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: what pluggin is causing this
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry can you repeat the question?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: inventory serials plugin, maybe?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: bast's eqdb
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: tried reinstalling and removing eqdb 
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: even when i remove it still shows up
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well itd def eqdb.xml, not sure about the rest
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: hmm..
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try "eqdb refresh" ?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: still same result
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if it were uninstalled, then that command wouldnt work
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you uninstalled it thru plugins menu?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: reinstalled int
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: reinstalled it
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: when i remove it it returns nothing when i type in inv
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: no error nor inv
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no idea whats causing that, but you should see your inventory
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Without seeing your complete plugins list, it's very difficult to give you an informed answer.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: i just installed a fresh mushclient (havn't played in years) and I was just installing plugging started with bast broadcasting pluggings
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm willing to take a look via Teamviewer, if you want.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: installed the inventory miniwindow from bast and it is able to read the items i have, but the command inv still wont show anything
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: sure Metria would be aweasome
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does mushclient still require tags to be on?
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is there a site with a turorial on how to write code for blowtorch plugins somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: l
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Looking for suggestions on a grep program that will grep lines directly from a text file. Most of the ones I've seen so far only grep files, not actual text within a file.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Grep....
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: grep "mySearchString" /path/to/file
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm not certain I understand...grep does exactly what you want
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I should specify 1) Windows and 2) looking for a gui program. Had one years ago, forgot what it was.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: PowerCmd grep
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Windows 10*
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Why GUI?
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: grep for windows is command line
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But busybox gives full *Nix grep
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: explorer with indexing?
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you just do "grep string *.log > grep_out.txt"
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That will work.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Forgot about > operator.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Does ">" work in windows?
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, i'm one of today's 10,000.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Although the GUI program I had before would show me the contents rather than write to a file and let me highlight/copy what I wanted to keep. Heh.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I kind of miss it.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe read that one: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/87350/what-are-good-grep-tools-for-windows
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I've been using Ammonite as a bash replacement lately so I'd just do `ls.rec!.filter(x => x.contains("mySearchString")).map(x => //whatever I want to do to each file)
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's pretty nice that it gives me Bash utils, but also a full Scala REPL-interface to do stuff with.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but it looks so complicated
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's not if you're familiar with scala. ls.rec! returns a List[FilePointer], filter removes unwanted ones form the list, map transforms the list however I want.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean I could also just do `%bash("grep -r "searchString" . > found.txt")` too, but then I can't keep around the results in a nice List
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes I am afraid of too powerful shells
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that recent bash version have some kind of context TAB completion, when I accidentaly press it then it starts doing its "context dependent action" and it takes soo much time
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: while I just wanted to get file name completion
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Most shells do
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: especially with that systemctl thing
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: For Example if you type "t" and hit tab, it's looking for commands that start with "t" which for me returns "tt++, tty, tbl, etc"
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: but if you type git and then hit tab, it'll only show git commands
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Store it in a map Map("time1" -> kills, "time2" -> kills, "time3" -> kills)
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: how do you make a trigger a plugin? Ive been gone far to long
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: mush
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: CTRL_SHIFT_7 iirc
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: thankyou 
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So, I got bored at work today, an emulated the emergent properties of a deck of cards in Scala. I kept to the functional paradigm (except for the singular usage of Random.shuffle), can be deal X number or cards to N number of players, again all functionally...however I ran into an issue of maintaining a Game state. Essentially after making a deck of cards, I now want to play games with it be it Blackjack, Texas Hold'em, etc but I still want to do it functionally, and would prefer to avoid a massive list of rounds that needs to be recalculated each time. Thought?
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The code for reference: https://github.com/DeveloperMeier/CardsInScala
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my initial thought is that you have too much free time at work :p
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I needed a break from Javascript
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it also only took about 20 minutes
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Most of that was the tedium of defining the cards themselves :P
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So you were bored at work and did something tedious?
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: tedious things can be relaxing
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's been kind of stuck in my head since I learned about this magic trick that requires no manipulation or trickery, just the properties of a deck of cards itself, to work.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So i was like "I could do that in code"
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Beyond my understanding in coding.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The only part that's even remotely hard to understand, IMO, is the "deal" function in the Deck class.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But that's because it uses foldLeft magic :P
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe he wants to deal from the bottom of the deck
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You could do that, you'd just pass "deck.reverse" to it
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: more interesting is how to prove whether internet gaming (blackjack poker) are using virtual cheating to fleece the customers
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: because audits...
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger slaps Xyliz.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Casino games are already fleecing the customers even without rigging the code
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You really just use any opportunity for the wildest of tangents, dontcha
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: really interesting how I pay so much in taxes yet women don't throw themselves at me
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Pass less to taxes and more to hookers?
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm looking for more of a "willingly throw" and less of a "reluctantly accept bribe"
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Raded just wants a woman.....
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Welp, you're kinda SOL until you reincarnate into something...more appealing :P
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "did you try e-Harmony" 
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: e-Harmony rejected his credit card.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the facial recognition on his windows pc wont let him sign up for dating sites
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I can't tell if Turie thinks I'm super rich or thinks I'm broke and living in my mom's basement
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Neither. I think you live in a shack somewhere in Oregon making moonshine and telling stories of yester-year.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Can't you be super rich in your mom's basement?
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: hey I don't make moonshine
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is what she said.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's not moonshine, because he makes it when the sun's out!
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: he makes sunshine
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: raded is coffee and beer poor.  #hipsterlife
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Could be "Dewshine".
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Flood remediation advice and MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: Is there a command that can be input that immediately clears all prior inputs in mushclient? 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Not that I'm aware of.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I do not understand
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Do you mean cancel stacked commands?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: He wants to get rid of command history so that the up/down arrows no longer remember them
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: Say I hit cast fireball 4 times, but need to heal and cant wait for all the fireballs... could i enter a command that cancels the fireballs and quaffs the potion now?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Oh, what I said then
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: oh nevermind
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can disconnect
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: disconectting kills stacked commands
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, disconnect and re-log
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: That would also remove the 'quaff' command in the stack, so you'll have to do it again
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger nods at Tricksy Bamboo.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ctrl + Shift + K    => disconnect
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ctrl + K    => connect
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: for mushclient, I presume
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It is for Mushclient, yes
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Flood remediation and MUSHclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The church of  Fiends is now allowing sanctuary.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How do I play a sound in mush script (lua)?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Found this: PlaySound (1, "boing.wav", false, 0, 0)  
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Doesn't work. Put sound file in root folder, sounds folder, plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Try using the full folder path name.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How do I do that in mac? Sorry
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I don't know, not familiar with mac drive structure.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: it is a linux folder structure
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Can I do PlaySound (1, "../sounds/boing.wav", false, 0, 0)  
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Possibly.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Now back to crocheting a Batman stuffed figure for my friend's birthday.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well somehow I think it's a file problem
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Tried the file on a trigger, didn't play
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Huh. Any file won't play
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Restarting mush
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Sound plays fine now, with "../sounds/file.wav"
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Glad you got it working.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: if i uncheck enable_trigger for one trigger, all triggers are disabled -- is that right?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you're disabling it for just that trigger, then only that trigger is disabled.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: when i uncheck enable_trigger for one trigger, it is unchecked for all triggers
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Where are you unchecking it?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusty Shackleford Tech: There's a fairly easy way to test that, no? Not sure what client you're using, but couldn't you write a tick trigger and uncheck a different one? you'd have your answer in >30 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: the configure triggers dialog, next to the "Add" button
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ah, yes, then it disables them all.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: tagging question - I have an audiobook on my plex library. All of the tracks are titled the same..."I love Aardwolf" or whatever, but I really need to change them to "Chapter 1. I love Aardwolf" "Chapter 2 I love Aardwolf" or just "Chapter 1" or just "1 - I love Aardwolf" or something anything to distinguish them when im looking at hte tracks on my phone. I'm on a mac... any suggestions besides manually changing every single track. 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: Throw mac in trash, buy real computer.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusty Shackleford Tech: Could you write a bash script to change the file names? 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusty Shackleford Tech: I don't use plex, so no idea if that's what you're describing.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i use 'mp3 book helper'
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Plex knowledge isn't required.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaelynne nods at Acidrayne Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusty Shackleford shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Basically, she wants something that will easily convert the tags into a file name of Chapter 1 - I love Aardwolf, or vice versa.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusty Shackleford Tech: Well, that I dunno. 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it may not do what you want, but it titles them in order.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: looking at book helper....haven't tried it before so it might 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hrm appears to be a windows only format, bummer
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Shaelynne: I haven't looked too deeply into this, but maybe this will help: https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/5yv7ge/i_built_a_metadata_agent_for_audiobooks/
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tatsuo Tech: The title is very encouraging.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: aweseome thank you 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i surrender
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: regex: foo (.*)
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: string: foo command
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i want to return: cast '%1'
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Okay. You have Regex ticked?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i love an easy solution
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: so the link Arc gave me will be awesome when im pulling a full chapterized audiobook, but I typically find non-chaptereds books and divide them into 30m books with an audiosplitter. I tried MP3Tag using wine and it works great, just wanted to share.thanks 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thanks for sharing, my mp3 book helper has helped me a lot before, but it is no longer being updated for a long time.  so yea, i'll look into that. 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: http://theaudiobookaddict.blogspot.com/2013/05/tag-youre-it.html  - this was the exact link i followed for the info and then downloaded it