T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: hiya
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: samsung. thats funny
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: so i kinda screwed up everything. i was in alt 5 trying to change the text wrapping b/c i changed my font to 14 but i had runnof text
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: and i messed with output buffer size and now i only have one box
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: my font size is 10
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: which is this chat, its short in length now and i dont see any maps or anything
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: its like the entire box i was working in inside musch client just shrunk
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: is there a set to default button?
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: aardreset or resetaard  can't remember
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: it's resetaard. :p
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: so that reset everything on display
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: but the box inside of mushclient is still wicked small
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: question
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: i guess i should phrase it the window inside of the client
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: i have 1600 comma delimited text files.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: ooh. tobacco pouch
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Triiage: So change the font?
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: lemme try restarting the client hold on
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: what is the best tool to parse it with a simpld program that does if field positive, add adjacent field to running total?
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: ok. so this mud has too many people for me. thats all
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: wat
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: they're all Afk don't worry
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: I am here though
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: sick
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: half are afk, the other half are bots
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: i have no clue what im doing
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: i like not reading rooms
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Go through the academy and use the newbie channel for help.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: type who active, then dividd by 3 for real active.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: theres a newbie channel?!
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Magmerd, exactly what a bot would say
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you don't like reading rooms, then MUDs are not designed for you.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, lg phones are better than samsung
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do you have zero anything but you know tech chan
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: i fixed it
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling eyes Magmerd suspiciously.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: if you are on 700 mhz band on t mobile in cheyenne, wyoming with an lg 30, yes.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Magmerd was sent here by imms on newbie :)
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: wut
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: oh, yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: or at least saw the discussion on newbie re: it for Triiage.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, take him back
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: NO
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: what do we pay them for????  shunting nubs to tech gimme a break
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: hi bots, see my question on parsing text fipes.  will pay with aard stuff.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: I'd just quickly set up a bash script to run through a directory that has all CSV files and parse it appropriately.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: I'll take my tp and QP now.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: what is a bash scfipt
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: https://ryanstutorials.net/bash-scripting-tutorial/bash-script.php
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: ok if i can make it work next week i will reward you
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: HANDSOMELY
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: YESS
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: anyone know if there is currently a DoS attack agaist DNS servers?
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not lagging at all
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: I want to make a plugin where I track things hourly, how does the mud send any info when it's a new hour?
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it does not
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: I lost my stats window, how can I get it back?
T3/r7/2017-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone remember the command in MUSH that prints all the plugin/trigger/alias/etc to the main window?
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: is abelinc here
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, never tested this. I wonder if this would work: Execute((tennis.shot[type] or tennis.shot.lob))... meaning it would execute whatever the type was, or if that type was not valid, would default to "lob"...
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oo, it seems it does work!
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Tested with local function test_exec(z) Execute((z or "smile")) end test_exec("snicker") test_exec()
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: I'm trying to make a hunt trigger but it keeps stopping because of the "a" "an" "the" before the mob.  How would i fix that?
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Starling, get plugin from her web page, and use "ht mob" , or just check how it was done
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err ht is hunt trick, you want to check code for "ah" alias
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: or 'ah mob', depending on what you're after: hunt trick or autohunt
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Or if you want to create your own trigger, then store the hunt mob as a variable, and trigger off the various hunt messages...
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how do I check my version of Aard Mush (the build version)?
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haha of course
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: found the file and it had a match for "check_version" it appeared
T3/r7/2017-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cool cool thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: version_check I guess it was called
T3/r7/2017-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: some places dont want to open google links and there is a workaround.. ive only used it once and don't remember.. help!
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: I'm experiencing major lag with Aardwolf... this is the first time ever for me. The strange thing is, it seems only a few people are experiencing it, and also, it doesn't seem to be a problem with my ISP.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: I guess maybe it's a problem with something inbetween
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's pretty normal...if it were the server directly or the server's Internet connection, it would impact everyone...if it's your computer or your ISP, it'd only impact you and/or others on your ISP...but the most fragile part of the Internet is where ISPs connect to other ISPs...
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if one of those links is acting flaky, then it could would impact everyone, not only from those ISPs, but any ISPs which "transit" that connection
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bodhi nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: Abelinc I dont like IOS 11 from a visual perspective
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: what do you suggest I do
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}As over Raded Tech: rescue droki from his CIA black site prison and ask him
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: he's just gonna tell me how great the product is
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: and then sell me an ipod
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: and then hes gonna make me vote for bernie :(
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}As over Raded Tech: why do you think he got picked up by the CIA? it was the damn ipods.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He will sell you a iPhone X too on top.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: he's probably going to take a deposit on next year's model
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}As over Raded Tech: he's nice though he let me trade in my car for a down payment on an iphone x
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I run IOS 9 :P
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}As over Raded Tech: quick someone hack abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: I think it's going to be a Swarovski crystal
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck with that :P
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}As over Raded Tech: are you behind 9 proxies?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: he's on an atari 2600
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: not even connected to the internet
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: and yet
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: he's here
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Raded: He is behind a Commidor64.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: As over Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: with a tape deck
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c64s were good at connectivity
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He has not reboot his computer since he moved into the place he is living at now.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were used a lot by ham radio operators to form wireless networks back in the day
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: we will round them up
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: I should facetime abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh yeah, I'd totally answer that
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: I know you would
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: greetings.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hello and welcome, on behalf of Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: im on mobile. do you know how to pull up a settings menu?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client are you sing?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Using..
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: how detrimental would be to spam the map command every 2 seconds? From a server standpoint? It is a command that everyone spams everytime they move..
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: aardwolf rpg app. is that what you are asking?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: more like for opkers to be able to see the movement in more or less real time of things around them
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tol: no biggie, go ahead and set up a timer if you want...HOWEVER, make sure that the timer calls something which will know what status you're in, and only send it with status = 3
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: see, this is why I ask the fun questions on here, thank you abe
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leyonard Tech: if I'm playing on the mobile client, how do i open my menu bar to set options and triggers and such?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leyonard (and gooni): you should be able to hit the menu button of your android device
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I knew abelinc would show pu
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Dialed in with his Atari 400
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pu pleiades :P
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: no. its like that on my friends but not mine
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: he couldnt go to bed leaving a support ticket open
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: or having the last word in an argument ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno, gooni, works like that on my tab...is yours a much newer device/OS?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leyonard Tech: yeah, my phone has the menu tab, but gooni's doesn't. we're trying to figure out why. my phone is newer as well. maybe try reinstalling the client?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: mabey. brb
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there might be an incompatibility glitch with the newer OS...the aardwolf RPG app is really just the blowtorch client pre-configured to reach Aard...it was released that way by the guy that wrote Blowtorch, but he hasn't updated it in 6 years
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: anyway for me to find out what plugin is suddenly doin this? Trigger function "Add_To_Table" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: it happens when i type train
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: at a trainer
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: and all my info that normally would show, several lines worth, are just showing that error line after line
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess that is some statistic plugin, maybe Bast ?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: i just trained when i morted and it didnt do it, got to lvl 2 and tried to train and it started
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: ok ill check my bast plugins, turn on and off see what happens
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: nah, my only bast plugin is off and its not fixing it..
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: gotta go through these one by one i guess
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you can search plugin files for that text
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: now thats a thought
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Not S&D, there is no such function :D
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: i havent found it yet either. this has never happened before and i havent added new mods in a very long time
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what plugins are you running?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, that error message should show what plugin tried to call that function
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe it is just one of your client triggers ?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: about 20 plugins in my list
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: but the error doesnt show what plugin its getting called from
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I mean... Bast's?  Search and Destroy?  What?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: it would take me a while to name them all off
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: u bot
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: nah they just do little things here and there
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He a Texting Bot!
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: disabled all of them and i get my info back. time to turn them on one at a time
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: only 20 to go through, guess it wont take too long
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You could download notepad++ and search for the function name in the xml files.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: meh goin down turning on 4 at a time and eventually i can narrow it down quick that way
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i mean, why do what's sensible when you can just do it that way?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you could download total commander, navigate to mush folder, alt-f7 and click find text
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: found the group of four
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: just further narrowing it down outta those now
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: found it
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: it was a cp mob table filler plugin, whatever that does
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: doesnt sound like it should be affecting my training info though
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: clearly, your bot needs an oil change.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: thanks for the help though guys
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is it associated with some other plugin set?  Bast's, or ... ?  Just curious
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: i wouldnt know how to find out
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: the author of it was Sonet
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: thats all i know
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is the file name?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: cpmobTableFiller
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how do I unlock my mini windows so I can move them (in MUSH) ?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: really?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I had to wire money to Abelinc to do that :(
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I still feel a little guilty charging you the finder's fee to forward you on to Abelinc.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: has anyone tested the speed of MUSH on a Mac with and w/o and external SSD?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so I have a sendnoecho command coming from a plugin that is triggering many prompts.. is ther ea way to limit this behavior?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you know which plugin it is?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I do
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disable it
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: wow, such bad, such bad
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not bad advice, its just a simple fact that some commands trigger prompts
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The only way I know how to do that is to have the plugin temporarily disable prompts before sending commands that trigger prompts
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I did that for the plugin I'm working on and it was a major pain to get right :P
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use a trigger that gags duplicate prompts, so i only see a prompt when info changes
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nice, I like that idea
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the disabling the prompt worked well.. might spam a bit to often though.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What is the plugin doing that is triggering so many prompts?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: period?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it is sending a command to the mud that triggers a prompt
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: aka, nonya
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In that case my original advice stands :D
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: trade secrets and all ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is gmcp area data a myth?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what do i need to get a table of area data? :(
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: area data?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Define area data?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: request areaImmediately request information on your current area
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah but what info about the area are you wanting?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that is the extent of "area" in the gmcp documentation
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: all of the data avilable via gmcp
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmmm. Endymion is aiming his Gunblade right at Kobus.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: dont feel bad they cinger printed me in headstart
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So turn on debug mode, send a 'request area' and snoop the output
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i dont know how to via the debug info :p
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what area data are you trying to get?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol.. all of it
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: \\\require "gmcphelper" Send_GMCP_Packet("request area")
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: after gmcpdebug 1
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: if you want all the info on areas, it's probably easier to send 'areas' and then just parse the output. I think that's what S&D does
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what are you going to do with the data?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im trying to look at it
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: rate you on a scale from 1-10
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea endy i dont see any gmcp data when i turn debug on and send requests
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: one being the lowest, 10 being abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I mean, what are you trying to build?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: let me try it in a plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is \\\ your script parse?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh, hold on
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try something simple like \\\Note("heyo")
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think it's / not \
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh there we go
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i either set mush to \\\ or it was default i dont remember which
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Mine's / but I don't remember if I set that or not :/
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's / by default but I use that for other things, so I set mine to \\
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, it's \\\ by default.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: room.area { "id":"manorville", "name": "Prairie Village Estates", "x": 49, "y": 22, "z": 0, "col": "", "flags": "manorarea" }
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne hasn't changed his once.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thanks everyone
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats all i got :p
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You can use tprint to get a different output, but same info
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: tprint(gmcp("room"))
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Only if gmcphelper is required beforehand.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And requiring tprint, too.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: is there a way to prevent the database backup window from stealing focus?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: (mushclient/fiendish's script)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Supposedly 'mapper backups quiet' should help with that, but I haven't had much luck.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is iphone 6 ok?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For what purpose? Shimming up a table? Not bad, yeah. Making phone calls? Sure.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: controlling a guided missile and blowing up a target with no less than 2m precision
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, you need the iphone 8 for that.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: damn
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't have a smart phone, I refuse to pay for one, I think they're stupid expensive, but my mom just got a new iphone and her previous one is an iphone 6
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: trying to decide if I want to hassle with it or not
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Given the choice between a dumb flip phone and an iphone 6, it's a no-brainer. Take the iphone.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: seriously, an iphone6 isn't top of the line but compared to having no smart phone at all its definitely worth using
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't want increased service costs though
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if my phone rate were $1 per minute, my monthly bill would be about 10 dollars, to give you an idea of how often I talk on the phone
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: (i.e., I don't(
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: nobody talks on a phone anymore, everybody just texts, and texting on a smartphone is infinitely easier than a flip-phone
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and I'm already mad about paying 40 dollars per month (the exact same service in Europe would cost 20 dollars or less)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Lol so don't even activate the damn thing, just use it on wifi
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: at that point I might as well just go with a netbook or something
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is it possible to run lua code on an android phone?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: actually, another question... Mushclient comes with all sorts of functions, e.g. WindowArc, etc.  Are those functions what we meam when we refer to "API" ?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: API is one of those flexible terms that depends a helluva lot upon context
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I wouldn't even bother considering a smart phone, they don't interest me in general, although some specific things they can do interest me, e.g. GPS, using it as an accelerometer or other measuring instrument, etc.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if there is some Lua API that will let me program stuff, that would be pretty cool and would probably convince me to get one
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For what you want, you'd probably be better off with an arduino and some sensors.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and that's the issue, for all the things smart phones can "do", they're just not very interesting
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: hmm anyone know how to reset the Bast miniwindow events? it disappeared on me... tried reinstalling it
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i have the same issue with a few of his miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not use Bast, but as last resort I would also remove plugin state files
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you tried deleting the statefile?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: was trying mev reset, didn't work either
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: too many state files ... not sure which one to delete
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, finding the right one requires some research
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: xset reset gui or sxet resetaard
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it has nothing to do with S&D Mique
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you know plugin name - just open it, get its id - it looks like id="6704cfba10eafa04c20a00ab", then state file contains that id in its name: e0eb198d8d5698e3b2f61483-6704cfba10eafa04c20a00ab-state.xml
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but maybe it is just behind other windows
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: tried
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: i remember there's a simple command to use to reset all window positions
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no, i have the same issue with bast's moonbot miniwindow ... it just vanished
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then using (that will break whole layout though!) Window -> Cascade or Tile should show it
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that Bast's miniwins hava show/hide/front/back aliases, but I do not really know how to call them
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: still playing around with mev events
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mb show ?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that brings up all the variables values
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mb win show ? :P
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that just shows everything about moonbot
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I found that in tec: mspell windows (that shows windows) , mspell spellup show
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I suppose what for other plugins like mb it will be similar - "mb windows" to get window name, then "mb <window name> show"
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ooh that might help
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: usually mev events show/hide will do the trick
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: this time it didnt, something corrupted i think
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: deleting the statefile didnt work either
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: had to copy paste the whole state folder from another compueter
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wrong state file then
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: problem is that miniwin events is linked to several other plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean you picked proper state for plugin, but you picked wrong plugin :P
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: not sure which was the bugged out one
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thank god S&D doesn't fart around with whatever issues you're dealing with
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe you should execute "mev events show" with "mev events front" (that is also from tech archives Remarto Tech: try this, mev events front, then mev events show)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: What is the exact set up to use the auto login feature in MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: press alt+enter, then go to the connecting part. there you fill in username and password, then in the bottom box you put %name% next line %password% next line ;
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if that's your stellar interface between here and the beyond ... " well, this is it.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zamolxis Tech: Testing
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades points at you.  How rude! 
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica generates a null pointer
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Ive seen Abelinc divide by zero
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I have done that also, with poor results lol
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: he didnt get anything out of it
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i need hell witb a java lang. exception that keeps popping up
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: am i hacked because im playing on a phone
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol are you talking about the potions I gave you?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: those are potions haha
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: that was not funny
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol, you were probably freaking out
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: try quaffing your errors :P
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that would take a few years
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So wish that more websites would utilize "dark" themes.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: IMO, it should be a preference toggleable at the browser level that sites would/could adhere to.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If it's a site you use frequently you can override the CSS fairly easily
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "themeing" isn't that hard, just make people supply a palette.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not ideal, but doable
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I employ the Stylish Chrome add-on; it usually has at least one dark theme for most websites.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yes, but that's per site, individually
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah the problem is that "web designers" don't use the web like it was intended to be used, they use it like they're printing to PDF
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Nothing worse than sitting in a dark room and having your eyes attacked by a blindingly white page. At least make it gray.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i seem to be having some trouble capturing gold amounts in a trigger - the comma and leading zeroes are missing from the  captured text
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: anyone know how to overcome this ? Tried using the "convert to regular expression button", but doesn't seem to help
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Without seeing your trigger pattern, not much we can do beyond saying "That sucks"
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: What is the text you are trying to capture and what trigger are you using?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: her is the trigger pattern --> ^You get \d+ gold coins from (.*?)$
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you're gonna hafta capture multiple fields and stick em together, i think
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: I also tried "^You get (.\d) gold coins from (.*?)$", but that didn't work either
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you want the commas, you can't match with \d
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you might need to add a/some conditional statements (\,\d+)? once or twice and combine the fields into one
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: well i don't necessarily want the commas, as long as it captures the entire number 
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: or capture the whole thing, and edit out the commas
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ^You get ((\d+)\,|)((\d+)\,|)(\d+) gold coins from (.*?)$
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i'll try that, Negader
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: or just use ([0-9,]+) gold coins and then strip out the commas
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: goldearned = tonumber (%2%4%5)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can add numbers with commas just fine
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but you will have to do tonumber() if its pulled from a trigger cause its a string
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, tonumber() doesn't work with commas
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: hmm, that gave me a compile error --> [string "Trigger: "]:1: unexpected symbol near ')'
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh snap you're right i just tested, sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it's been a while since i wrote that, not exactly sure how it works now.  but i think i found some help by googling and finding info at gammon's site.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: but you can use string.gsub(theString, ",", "") 
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: to strip out the commas
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: tonumber(string.gsub(theString, ",", "")) *shifty*
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yeah but i need to capture the string first, arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: it looks like a good function
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's what you use ([0-9,]+) for :)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then ([0-9,]+) as previously suggested.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, lemme try that
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there a benefit of 0-9 vs \d ?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not really.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just old habits :P
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: nope, same prob as before with *, "6,070" returns as "6 70"
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I suppose you could do ([\d,]+) instead.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It shouldn't.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what does your gsub look like?  you didnt put a space to replace it did you?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is your trigger set up as a regular expression?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It would still show the 0 if he put a space in it.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It'd return 6 070, not 6 70
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: the return portion reads like this --> print('amount: ' .. %1)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: The %1 needs to be in quotes.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But wait, where are you using that at?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Within the trigger?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So you should be doing: print("amount: %1")
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: this works:  https://pastebin.com/k5WPeAmf   
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: arcidayne, that works :)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If there's one thing I've learned about regexes, there's more than 1 way to do it. Usually more than 3.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: There's the messy way, the clean way, and the "overly complicated but works" way.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: I'm really not very good at them, a total beginner
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: l
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: sooo question can i make a trigger or alias to fire along with other words...??? for instance if i type "fralk hello" can i make it send ftalk hello instead?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: it's calling subbing.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: called*
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: that helps... oh wait
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: not
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: details
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: you can use subbing in many ways
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: such as?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: is that the % thing?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: read your client's sub services.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: pretend ur talking to idk a drunk person....
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: in cmud sub is a function, I don't know how it is done in mush but I am sure it is something similar.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: yeah im on mudrammer on IoS
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If you're trying to correct that typo, you can just make an alias 'fralk (*)' and make it send 'ftalk %1' or similar
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: that would be more efficient :)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: yeah typo is the prob 
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: ugh anyone know the exact thing to enter for Mudrammer?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: math is hard
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: look up how to create an alias
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or just type alias fralk ft
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: yeah didnt help red
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, derp.  yeah, a mudside alias would probably be the most expedient thing here
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: fralk to ft dont help with the other words
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: unless i can change it to ft %1 or somethin .... oh how i miss my android phone.....
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: still my favorite 'aardwolf' song lately
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: o wait
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: holy crap batman(Redryn) im sooooo sry u r right!!!! 
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling fluffles Ressem's fur mercilessly.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: ty for assisting me with my drunk typing!
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ressem bows before Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: who here is using blowtorch please?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: from time to time
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i have a window half off the screen and cant move it, how do i reset window positions in mush?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which window...
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: resetaard might work
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: its the search and destroy mini window
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And if you're so inclined, download Starling's version where it prevents that from ever happening again.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: you are a life saver!!!! thank yall
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Didn't realize it was a life or death situation, having that window out of place.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: it was getting close lol
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If it involves life or death, I suggest calling 911 next time. Or 999 if you're across the pond. Or whatever the equivalent to your emergency services is.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Acidrayne Arcidayne's head.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi. any one that can help me with blowtorch please?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Better to ask the question.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thanks 
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Atomic shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: options backspace button
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: hold down your finger on the button
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: hard to do when the backspace goes up a little
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: alias trigger help
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: on a phone? is that possible?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: without a lot more info, yes it is.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne types 'alias trigger help' and it works.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Acidrayne Arcidayne's head.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: no way!
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: how do i delete that
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: that was not nice
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: How was it not nice?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Unalias trigger!
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I didn't tell YOU to type it.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: yes crimzon it does work on a phone also. just have to figure out how to set them up. it is the blowtorch client from the app store 
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You did that of your own volition.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: gullibles written on the ceiling
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you say orange slow enough, it sounds like gullible.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: good one
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone here expert on Nintendo powergloves/mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: customized weapons?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: sounds awesome
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Kick, punch, it's all in the game.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the power glove was horrific
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i have lashers gloves of newbie resistance
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne hooks up an Xbox Kinect and uses it to MUD.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: alright back to atomic
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: is there a way t0o play muds on ps4? xD
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: With the Aardwolf mushclient mapper, is there an easy way to set up an alias to just run to the first room of an area using the most efficient current path in the mapper? I could do it by memorizing room IDs, but that seems inconvenient.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: As Fiendish would say, there is no "first room of an area".
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Okay, how about "this room I like in an area"?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just alias goahner to mapper goto #####
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's what people use S&D for, honestly.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, partially.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: s&d is the better investment in time
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but you can just make an alias if you want, just send to Execute and put "mapper goto roomID"
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: tech Whoa, I never realized that there was a "send to" option or what it did. Thanks, that teaches something.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: But what's S&D?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Sorry, I'm just learning about the mapper. :D
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so for xyl you could do "myrt xyl" as the alias, then Execute "mapper goto 472"
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Make an alias that adds a room id to the table based on your keyword (so addstart Legend 12345), and then you can make another alias to run to the id.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, send to world sends it straight to the world with just variables expanded...send to execute acts as if you typed it, so aliases are expanded...and send to script parses script functions()
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out http://abelinc.me/mapper, and http://abelinc.me/hosch
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Whoa
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Thanks, this is great.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: So I added the WinkleWinkle scripts to Mushclient, but when I tried to use xrun_to, it gave me a run-time error. Response was "Function/Sub: xrun_to called by alias  Reason: processing alias ""  no such column: r.date_added" Any idea what might be the problem?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: script is outdated
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: That makes sense!
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: use the link on Starling´s profile, finger Starling
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: you can esily fix that part by just removing the reference to R.date_added in the script
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: that field was used to determine what the first room of an area was (assumed it was the first room added to the database)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Whoa, I had a *way* outdated plugin, turns out
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: you can in stead use xset mark to set the first room yourself, otherwise is will take the room with the lowest vnum as first room
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: (which could be a problem for some areas, but I have yet to find such area)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Thanks, all fixed now!
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I love the mapper, but it makes sending and recieving text from the mud very slow. I have been disconnected several times, what do I do?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why do you thing the mapper made you disconnect?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: think
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I guess something really is slow :)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you use other plugins (like Bast) ?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: is there a gold tracker for aard
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sharptracker could be considered some kind of it
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and maybe Bast
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Has anyone who uses the S&D plugin ever seen it misidentify an area campaign as a room campaign? If so, any idea how to force it to switch to area campaign?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the way the query works, you will get 2 lines if the "location" matches an area and a room
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: area shows first i think, so you need to just move to the next
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: The little window is just showing up as blank since it only identified 1 mob, and then I killed it, so now the S&D window is blank even though I have multiple mobs to go
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or vice versa, key point being it will show both if it matches both
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that doesnt sound like the problem you are having
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try cp check
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: "No campaign items to show."
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Whereas campaign check gives the real list
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try reloading mapper_extender and mapper_extender_GUI
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im not sure what the issue is, but its not area vs room
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what version are you using?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: 1.3.2
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is one of the mobs "unknown" ?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: I mean, I've seen it get into a situation where I don't have all the rooms in a room cp mapped, and it doesn't list those mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: But when I requested the campaign, it just outright said that it's a room campaign even though it's not
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what mobs did you get ?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: I think my problem was the mob Find and kill 1 * a hippogriff (The Labyrinth)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Because that was the only one it listed, and it kept trying to take me to a room named "The Labyrinth"
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: But it's just in the area Labyrinth.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have a labyrinth mob in my current cp, let me see if I can make it glitch like that
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i've never seen a version that declares what type of cp it is, it just lists both room/area for that mob
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Yeah, it's not a huge issue for me, all these mobs are easy. I'm just wondering if it's a repeatable problem.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 1.3.2 detects the cp type
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: although, with one mob, if the area name is also a room name, that could cause both checks to be true.  that's an oversight
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thanks for letting me know
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Thanks for listening. :)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm looking at a couple of things, if you wouldn't mind, would you note me your cp list?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Aw damn, I already completed it. Let me see if I can pull it up from history.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: which mapping script would you guys recommend for mudlet? having a hard time finding any
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd recommend getting the aard MUSHclient package and dropping Mudlet...
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Damn it, my vacation is over AND I have to agree with Abelinc? Sonofa..
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: considering 4 people use mudlet and 141 mushclient-aard, i'd agree with Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: probably right
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: more familiar with mush anyway
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: will it work with wine?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Fiendish actually develops the mushclient package for aardwolf with wine, IIRC
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that develops the Aard MUSHclient package uses it exclusively under Wine
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: right on
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: guys, I somehow close the window that showed my stats in MUSHclient, where can I open that window?
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: aardreset
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: or reset aard. Something like that
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Though, how did you close it?
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: There isn't a "close" option on the stats window.
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am kind of interested in that also
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: no idea, it was just gone
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So I'm guessing you uninstalled the plugin.
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: thats impressive of me hahah
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: anyway thanks guys :D
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Is there a way to avoid having the mapper use a specific portal except to go to that area? I keep having it use backstage pass and then get trapped by a door in Drageran empire
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: like if I want to go to house of cards, don't use Backstage Pass even though it may take me close
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Add level lock headed out of drageran
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Set an exit lock on that room is your best bet, I guess.
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: perfect! thank you both!
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone have suggestions on how to resolve mushclient error "Trigger function "help_redirect" not found or had a previous error." ... it seems to be taking over my output (main window)
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: reload the plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: .. umm which plugin ? idk wtf is causing it ... 
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: miniwin_help.xml
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: may want to even just disable it
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if it keeps happening anyway
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i disabled it and it stopped the main window lockout ... reinstalled it ... and then re-enabled it ... now to see if it works
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: nope ... Reason: processing trigger "multi_line_help"
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: nope ... Reason: processing trigger "multi_line_help" ...ktop\oldMUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\aardutils.lua:120: bad argument #1 to 'RGBColourToName' (number expected, got nil)
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: probably something incompatible, out dated plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am looking at my MUSHclient log and at some point in the log i start seeing double lines of all output. any idea what would cause that and if it's actually happening to me or just in the log?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: alcohol
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: mmmm
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: blame it on the ah-ah-acohol?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades giggles.
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i started checking the log because everyone once in awhile my client output will lag or freeze. then when i check the log, there are double lines about when it slows down
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: I'm using the Aardwolf Mushclient on two PCs, is there a way to easily transfer the map database from one to the other?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: copy on usb stick
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: I mean, do I just copy a particular file and overwrite it on the other PC?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I use onedrive or any storage service. After you finish on one comp it overwrites the directory on the other.
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: yes, you can copy the file aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: I have Dropbox, but my Mushclients and Dropbox folders are in slightly different places on both PCs, so it complains about the path
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Oh, perfect
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: That did the trick, thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i save my mushclient on nas and plays on either a 13inch laptop or 27 inch monitor. is there a way to save individual screen layout?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: example: \\\\windows = WindowList(); for _, v in ipairs (windows) do Note (v); Note ( WindowPosition(v, 1, 1, 1, 1) ); end
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I do not recommend runing it though
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: looks complex
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: in fact it is quite simple
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: what you are asking is complex 
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: basically you need save in some way current window positions for both layouts
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: then just define alias like #win13 or #win21 - that will iterate through window list and restore saved positions
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: is there a way to save the layout in each pc but the database in nas?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or you could do that even without anys complex code
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: that way i dont have two different instances
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you mean mapper database - then you could alter gmcp mapper plugin and point db to fixed location
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: that could work
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: then probably easiest way would be just have 2 mushclient instances
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: however if you use mush autoupdate feature - then you need to remember to "fix" mapper plugin after every update
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that fix is quite simple though, just open aard_gmcp_mapper.xml and replace GetInfo(66) with a fixed path
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: if i point the db to a fixed location, does that include all the aliases and triggers etc?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: well, it would be best for you to move all triggers and aliases to a plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: unless you meant custom cexits - those are stored in mapper db
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but aliases and triggers defined in mush (like game->configure->triggers) those are stored in mcl file
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i do mean all my own aliases and trigger. moving them to a plugin is beyond my skills
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is pretty simple, you just use plugin wizard to create a plugin, then in its settings (ie plugin wizard) you can mark triggers aliases that are to be moved to that plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: however, *before* you do anything - make a copy of your current mush
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: sounds simple, will give it a go
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also, plugin wizard with default setting will remove all your triggers/aliases
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: hmm... ok. will backup my client before i do anything
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: though defining aliases/triggers usign plugin is fairly easy, once you choose that path - next alias or trigger you should add in your plugin file (ie do not use game->configure->aliases/triggers to add new aliases/triggers)
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is still fairly easy - because you can just copy-paste one of your existing triggers/aliases
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: so any new trigger i have to add to the plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but then iterating through WindowList and WindowPosition is the proper way for hacker :P
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you want to share that trigger in both layouts, then yes, you should add it to the plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: alternatively you could define trigger/alias using GUI then create new plugin (and load it in both mush installs)
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also when you do backup - remember to close mush before doing so
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also if you use logging - then you need in both installs choose same paths to log file
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: thanks Deuter
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: is any of the port faster than any other port for aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: 32 vs 4000 vs 4010 etc
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i have an action aliased to abcd, but i want it to activate the alias even if i type abc, or ab.  I saw it somewhere a person used a(?:b)?c(?:d)?$ or something like that. I can't recall how that was done.  anyone know?  (regexp question)
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: so, I'm trying to restore my maps, but I'm not sure where they're kept. Is it in the file 'db_backups', or somewhere else?
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: folder db_backups -> aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: alright. I have a few files here that are listed like Aardwolf.db.Backup_Automatic_older. I'd just snag the most recent one, and drop it in the current db_backup folder? 
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: yes, take more recent file from db_backup and copy to client root folder 
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: ah, okay
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: that worked! thanks so much!
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: is there a plugin to track the moon orbits?
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Toneloc Tech: anyone know how to add like a 1 second pause in the middle of an alias that you execute to allow time to s&d to do its job before continuing the action?
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Toneloc Tech: i made an aliase to execute three things but i need it to pause after the first thing for 1 second then continue
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: anyway to block all ports but aard? IE dedicate data to aard only
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: mapper takes me to darklight instead of flying citadel when I use xrunto. Anyone know how to fix?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mackenzie Tech: go to both areas and type "xset mark" to make sure you have the start room right in both
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: xset mark in citadel, the area matching mechanic still has issues
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: thanks guys, but doesn't seem to be working
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: xrunto citadel still takes me to darklight
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: what room id is it taking you to?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i would turn on echoc and see what commands it is sending
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: maybe my mapper portals are interfering
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: or you set the wrong landing point for your portals
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I had two orbs in my bag =( It was taking the wrong one. Thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: ouch :p
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: and that is why it is safest to use the id's of items like portals
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: that makes sense, I'll try that, thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: every time I go to darklight that orb gets put at the top of my bag and breaks the citadel xruno =D
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: use id
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: for sure, thanks all
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: xrunto occasionally glitches out though, so if anything else comes up, let me know
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: if I have the -lay_sounds plugin, do I need the msp plugin?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: if I have the play_sounds plugin, do I need the msp plugin?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I installed/activated bast's stats tracker.  when the musclient db backup runs, I get a screen of stuff related to backup of the bast-stats db too.  Is that amount of output normal?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: about 10-12 lines?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and it delays for no combat?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: Is anyone on?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nada
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: nope. no one
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: I wish to make a command in the mushclient something like kcast <mob> so that it casts a series of spells at the mob in question. Is there a way?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sy
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: very easy, yes
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: google mushclient alias
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that way you learn how to make more than just the one!
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with all your question answered you can just get to work :P
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: so I can make aliases. But I can do kcast gorilla and make it cast more than one spell at said gorilla? :)
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: Nice. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: google what I told you and you will even learn how
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: well I dont know if YOU can do it but it certainly can be done in Mush
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you only need to cast one spell at the target to start a fight. the rest can be simple casts without a target, and will go to the same target
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: semicolon is your friend, the rest is input variable and output variable
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: hit alt+enter, choose the alias submenu, make and alias kcast *, hit the convert to regex, then in body type cast spell1 %1 etc
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: That was eaier than I thought it would be
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: There was only a convert to regular expression button. It seemed to work though. :) Thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: how do I turn msp?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: any quick alias to acces gmcp table thats saved?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: anyone got a snippet on hand for grabbing level and tier data from gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: there is anyone that uses mushclient with wine on linux? I have a problem with the mapper plugin...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: nevermind I was sending the command in the wrong "sendTo" is awesome that mushclient and all the plugins work well also on wine on linux
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Honest question, in sql what is the point of inner joins, if it ends up repeating a WHOLE bunch of data I don't need....why wouldn't I just do two seperate sql statements to get the data I want...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: unless it's tuesday
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cant you just do left join to stop repeat?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or put a ring on it
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're getting a lot of repeated info on an inner join, isn't that a sign you need to normalize your database and have it laid out poorly?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: why is there repeat? are you not doing an "ON" statement?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So I have a table of titan runs which has data on players/total time, and then a seperate table of bosses, which has data on each seperate boss.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ALl the joins will repeat all the run data, for every boss....
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok lets see your sql statement
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm sure there are uses for INNER JOINS with more complicated SQL data with many more tables, but for something like this seems so much easier to just use two sql statements...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: are you doing a cartesian join? how are you joining the tables?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: SELECT * FROM INNER bosses ON bosses.runid = runs.runid
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I'm using a wedge anchor
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: err rather: SELECT * FROM runs INNER JOIN bosses ON bosses.runid = runs.runid
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is the boss table supposed to have just one record per boss?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: so what is the runid column in the boss table?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i get an error running that sql
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: haha endy
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no such table
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion snickers with [Outlaw] Mendaloth about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The runid is stored in the runs table, which has the overall run data (players, total time).  Then that run id is used in each boss, so they correspond.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Foreign keys!
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think...been so long since I've done this crap...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can we see your database schema?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ok so in the boss table there can be more than one record per boss...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes, there are usually 3.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: so far nothing you have said would be the cause of seeing all those repeats
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I mean it's easy enough to do two seperate SQL statements...just wondering if I'm missing something here...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: nothing pops out. if you have 3 boss fights and 10 players. you will see 30 records. but you are seeing more, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No I'm not seeing more.  I'm just seeing the same run data for every row of the boss.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Like this: https://imgur.com/a/leVzP
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just seems odd to have so much repeating data...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: are you referring to the number of columns?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: am i seeing something wrong?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i see it with up to 3 bosses per runid
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am missing something coz it looks fine?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah, but what I'm saying is the player for instance.  They are in the run table.  There is only one copy of that.  But it shows up for every single boss.  I get that's what the joins do - just seems odd to return duplicate data I only need once....wondering if better way to do it...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: players column...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am missing something coz it doesn't look duplicated to me
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: this info is basically per boss.  so for each boss encountered on a run, you get info about the run that encountered that boss.  If it doesn't repeat the data, you can't know it's the same run?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how are you doing it differently with two queries? are you trying to aggregate something?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Let's say I only want to show data from one run.  If I do two sql statements, I can get the overall run data display it, then do a seperate sql statement to get each row from boss table.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just seems odd to have to return 3 copies of the run data, if I want to do it in one statement...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: there are some languages out there that can do what you say. i am unaware of how to do it in sqlite
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But anyways doesnt seem to be a better way, I use the join and get extra duplicate data or do two statements...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well if you're just looking to make some sort of report output you can still use 1 query to do the report
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just need logic to make 3 sets of columns for bosses instead of 3 separate rows showing it all
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Still storing that extra data though!  oh well guess there isnt something I'm missing here...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: let me see the sql statement
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you could just loop thru the rows and store your own table instead
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: tech -h select
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: then there is pivot
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i assume you're doing some sort of game output in lua, but if its excel then yeah much difference
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I mean that's what I'm picturing - but doesnt seem to exist in sqlite
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: you could try ON runs.runid = bosses.runid
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i would just loop thru and create a table of runs and add columns for each boss, then you dont store duplicates
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: you can also ignore duplicates, they won't get stored and you won't bomb
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you could do it in "one" sql statement if you treat the second one as a table
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anaristos, he's basically trying to make 3 sets of columns for the unique mob data instead of 3 rows showing it all as per the query
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: ah, I see. Well, he can look at doing a pivot.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I could even store it all in one table, but thought that was bad practice and wouldn't work well for things like rewards that aren't a set number for each run.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and i think he wants to do it un lua, but was just showing data in excel :p
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: nah that is a sqlite screenshot I showed you.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: doing in lus should be easy :)
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if you do that you can also group by RUIN and then your column is "IF(BOSS = "MAN",field1,"") as boss1 ,IF(BOSS = "DUDE",field1,"") as boss2...it is super slopy but if you have a fixed number of bosses and only one row per boss and run
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah sorry i saw that but hearing pivot a couple times took my train of thought
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: zhalut is the sql master
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: i feel like I've wasted your time here, really not huge deal :)
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: discussing ways to work on data is never a waste of time :)
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just you're taught to break it all up in tables so to not waste space for data that isn't there, then only way to access it returns all sorts of extra duplicate data!
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: indeed.  driving while not typing is a waste of time, though.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: I am not sure that the join is correct... I just don't want to spend 2 or 3 days figuring out what's wrong with it :>
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: I have some massive JOINs that work, yours is so simple that it should work, but it doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or you can just not try to do it cleanly with a few sql statements....
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: oh it works
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i believe what zhalut noted.  you cant turn 3 rows into 1 row with dup columns without some fancy if stuff he noted
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I mean I get all the data I want
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: the JOIN should not only deliver the data you want but in the way you want it :)
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: you need a filter for the JOIN
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: In the perfect world it would return the overall run data, then two iterators that would loop through corresponding data in boss table and rewards table
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But that's super easy with 3 sql statements, what I'll do!
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: well, let me ask you this, what is the key?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: runid is the key
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: you have duplicate runid so that can't be it.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: oh you are showing the result table, how about the source(s)?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Runid is in the runs table, and then that corresponds to runid in boss table and reward table
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: can you post a look at both tables?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: then I might get my JOIN juices to flow :>
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its showing dup cols because of * in select
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: yes, I realize that now. I wasn't thinking it was a results table.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: well I mean I get I could return just the boss data, but I wanted it all.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: well, it looks like you are getting an OUTER JOIN
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Thanks for help guys, I gotta run!
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: ok, bye :)
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you temporarily disable portal in mush mapper ?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: mapper walkto roomnum
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you can use mapper walkto
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so that is still remains in "mapper portals" but is omitted in path calculation?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: also, if using xmapper, 'xset speed walk'
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is for GQs - I have chaos portal that leads to oceanpark, but during GQ I want to disable that portal
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'd give up on those completely: for cps, speed is not that important (as in, the use of normal portals should be enough), and using walkto in gqs, even if only for a few specific targets, will decrease speed (it won't use any portal to get there, so probably a long speedwalk)
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: maybe make an alias for the use of those non-golden chaos portals that actually help to get to some room unreachable by mapper
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: use a database, then you can compete
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: otherwise you are screwed and should just give up
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: this applies to campaigns also
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: the idea behind gqs has to be 3 qp per mob and if you win well, thanks for all the fish :)
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks, now I just vault put malfunctioning portal, but maybe just putting all before gq started is better idea
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but the question is, is that too much tuna?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: No fish required, you will fail al gq against others if you are not using a database that has been pruned for years
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: dolphin, not tuna...
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: potato potato
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: that was my point, winning gqs has become an obsession. Just go for the 3 qps per mob and if you win, well then.
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: gqs are a joke for people who have been scripitng for years.
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: so the tired argument returns.
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you should just stop now, and maybe lasher willl make it fair eventually
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not target to win SH GQs, just getting 3 qps for easy mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then Oceanpark is easy area so those mobs I want to get
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: being the guy who literally made s&d a joke... I can say pretty fairly, stop now unless you scripted your way to the top
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: tol, are you ant alt?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am an alt, sure. I am an alt of the guy who got a silver medal for playing!
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you have 143 gq wins. is it that vast experience that you're using to form your opinion?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if you don't like s$d then don't look for alternatives
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Trial runs? 
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: or is there more to you that's not apparently obvious?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i've heard of many players winning gqs without scripts. what about them?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: still bots
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Why would there be more? I make programs for fun, if you don't use them for neferious means then good for you.
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: your assertion that winning without scripts can't be done is based on what?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: your vast experience?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: gorske
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have compared notes wiht myth
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: i have no scripts or bots. gqs don't need to be botted to be won
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: this in not the channel for this convo.
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: myth has his way. it's not the only way
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: good point, Tol
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is there any technical reason that S&D needs to be three separate plugins?  in theory, I should be able to combine them all into one and have it work.  Or no?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: no, i dont think there is a reason. maybe the gui makes sense to keep separate
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: bueller?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, my screen was stuck, doh
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I really wish the plugin id's were plain text instead of this hex gobbledygook
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Gammon is still updating mush, isn't he?  Maybe I should suggest that on his forums
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know of a decent place to pick up .wav files for sounds to use in MUSHc?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i used a text2speech to tell me when gq are announced
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: yes gimme one sec
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: google, don't seem to be any really decent free sites though.  they have sounds, but they're poorly organized a lot of the time
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: er ... windows/media ? lol
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: http://soundbible.com/tags-cool.html
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: i use the bat one for scry trigger 
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: my gq sound is just "notify.wav" from windows xp :p
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I don't use.....windows :/
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: haha ya will be cool if there's a set of nice aardwolf .wave fiels =D
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: .wav*
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I use audacity to clip things together to make custom sounds
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: sometime in the past I saw a plugin that would play all different sounds based on channels or triggers in the game such as quest request/receive
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: i thought i saw some sound pack under winklewinkle?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how does one add a 'bring to front' / 'send to back' menu to a plugin window?  can't seem to find it in the Fiendish mapper plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're looking at the aard_ASCII_map plugin file?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I've not looked at it yet, but since all minwindows have that in the popup I suspect it's auto 
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not the ascii map, the GMCP mapper, just searched for "bring to front" but I think it might be calling an external plugin to change window... z order, is it?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not auto, Fiendish just has a z-order miniwindow system that he wrote, which some other plugin writers also follow
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the GMCP mapper is a rather complex thing...don't try to use it to copy elements
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ASCII mapper is a perfect plugin to use as a framework
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok, I'll take a look at that one
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm proud of myself, I added menu options to the mapper GUI to manually add/remove noport and norecall :)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: if result == "Bring To Front" then
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ack... ok aardmapper.lua line 1111
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, I'll toot my own horn and suggest one of my plugins like the aard_rdesc_miniwin as a good way to template generic miniwindows which include that functionality...it's just under 500 lines including the fluff...it started by copying Fiendish's ascii mapper, stripping it to the minimum required to follow Fiendish's miniwindow conventions, so it's almost half the length
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I haven't touched it since 2014, so it doesn't have his latest changes for saving multiple layouts
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am using MUSHclient and I am confused about loading a plugin via a script. It works when I type the command in the input bar but not in a send_to script inside MUSHclient. Doesn't work means nothing happens...doesn't give error or success msg. Any ideas? Example to follow
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: \\\local plugin_file = GetInfo(66) .. [[worlds\plugins\Adds\z_swho commandsv7.xml]];LoadPlugin(plugin_file)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the send_to script, are you trying to call it from within the plugin you're trying to load?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz that doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: calling it from inside MUSH. game->configure->alias
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hit "enter", don't put a ;
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: loadplugin will work if i don't use getinfo(66) inside the client but it is unecessary in the input bar
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yep, not using ; in the alias
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: OK, this is odd but solved. I had to reverse the slash from \ to / when making it an alias
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, interesting
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: maybe coz I am on a Mac/wine?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it looks like that's the expected slash for the LoadPlugin function...the helpfile for it has: LoadPlugin ("c:/mushclient/plugins/plugin_list.xml") as the Lua example
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: so maybe it is odd that it worked with the other slash via the input bar?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Does anyone know a cheap free place to do a website?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: angelfire might still be around
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: \\\local x = GetInfo(66);print(x) shows the slashes as \ , the opposite of the loadplugin syntax .maybe good to know but not useful for an actual script
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: Amya: http://www.angelfire.lycos.com/
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: they are not as free as they used to be, so make sure you read the fine print :)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can always use wix
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or wordpress.com
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i use wordpress. super simple but limited if you want to be super technical and not use the plugins. i stick to the public plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: mapper data are stored in Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: it is for the Crusaders webpage...sadly when Khelda passed she took all out accesses with her. I am trying to change everything but I am lucky I have enough computer knowledge to log on...so I have NO clue what I need. I have ot have a new address...
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: technically the mapper info is in <worldname>.db ;-)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: what is an ssl certificate?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's what a webserver uses to let you use https instead of http...encrypted communications
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I do not need that...thank you
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without buying one of those, you can use a "self-signed" one to still be encrypted, but browsers will complain and you'll have to click an "I know that it's the server I want" warning
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: letsencrypt.org is a handy free ssl cert broker, but takes a bit more techiness to manage
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: is there someway for me to look at a webpage and know who is hosting it?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Woot! it worked!  Added a right-click menu to S&D window title bar which replaces and obsoletes the "f" and "B" buttons :D
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thanks for all the help
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: left click still works to drag/move the window too :)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you can check its IP addressm then you can check who owns it
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...Thank you
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or just tracert/traceroute that address/name - if you're lucky it goes through hosting service router with name like router.hosting-company.com
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I should of added-For dummies to that question
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: however if that hosting provider has just 1 server then it can be quite hard to determine it
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: traceroute points at wildcard.net.uk 
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: hosting provider is https://ifastnet.com/
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thank you so much! stay tuned I am sure there will be more
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if I add a new table to the aardmapper db, it won't break anything, will it?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yes, it probably will.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how come?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the mapper shouldn't try to do anything with it
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not until I tell it to, anyway
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Feel free to test it tout, but I wouldn't touch it, becuase the second Fiendish makes the slightest change to it, it might just become corrupted.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ah, he'd have to actually add something to it in order for that to happen
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: speaking of adding things, is mush going to upgrade to the new lua version, the one that has ints and whatnot?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: or has it already done so ?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I don't know if it will or not. That's entirely in Nick's hands.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: evidently he isn't.  It would break MySQL, among other things.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can mush interface with external programs?  like, if I wrote a program in C and compiled it, could mush pass information to it?  maybe as a command parameter or something else?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is os.execute
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however probably using luacom is better approach, I mean if you want to send data to external program and receive some data from it
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: alternatively using os.execute you could just call external program, redirect its output to file and then read output from file
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there is no 'mapper show all rooms in an area' in the aardmapper, is there?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is "xm %" in S&D
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: xmapper area %
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I mean 'list mapped rooms in a given area' i.e. mapper listrooms academy or something like that
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean while you are in other area?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't think there is
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's ok
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not really see how you could use it (I mean what for )
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: to get the room vnum for whatever reason
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so far I find that "xm %" is mostly useful if you want to find what room you are missing
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for that just 2 players go to area and both do "xm %", then compare output
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now, in what scenario a player in area ft2 wants to see slaughter rooms ?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: sometimes I work on scripts or that deal with things other than levelling or the current area I'm in, so it's useful if I can look things up without having to go out of my way
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's not a problem I can just add it and hopefully figure out sql a bit better
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as a scripter you can quite easily add another "x<something> area" that will list such rooms, but there is none ready now
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and it is almost as simple as copy-paste "xm %"
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: anyone have the PK revenge trigger line handy? (for when you get attacked)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: something like ^# You can take revenge on
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: does that sound accurate?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no theres like 3 #.. or 2..
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ** You can take revenge on Perlesvaus for 15 minutes.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ** You can take revenge on Arcidayne for 15 minutes.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah its *'s i was a bit off, thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: gank 'em!
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: bastards
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wire screams 'Oh my god they killed A Nimwit Pleiades!! You Bastards!!'
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades looks at Wire and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Hah, I made equipment set aliases. Basically, I now have one command which populates variables with whatever eq I have for that level, then I can just "wearset" or "getset" or "putset" to wear/get/put away everything together.
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone use chrome remote desktop?
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any clue what this new permission for communicating with "cooperating websites" is about?
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sounds very dodgy
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: oh yeah I just saw that today too, haven't looked into it yet
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: googling just seems to say no one has a clue
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: some stuf fhere
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: https://www.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/766z25/c_remote_desktop_requesting_new_permissions/
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, but that's a 404 site
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'll wait and see some official info i guess, i guess they'll have to respond to all the complaints
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: yeah i'm sure
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: with a powerline networking kit that has a passthrough, will it cause any issues to plug a giant surge protector with a bunch of things plugged into that into the adapter?
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: I'd be using it in a half hot outlet that I really don't feel like changing but I don't have a better spot for it.
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: other than that your powerline network adapter wouldnt be protected? i doubt it
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: it wouldn't be, but the adapters don't work on a protector anyway. plus they're not that expensive, wouldn't be a big loss if it got fried.
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: they're supposed to be plugged directly into the wall
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well pass-through means exactly that. passed through so it liekly doesnt have any circuitry between the pins
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: as long as youre not pulling too many amps through it, but thats a fuse/breaker issue
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: is ther any vi players on right now playing on the mush client
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Answer to Starling's question from a few days ago about 'bring to front' / 'send to back': https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Z-Order-Monitor#how-do-i-make-my-own-miniwindow-plugins-use-your-z-ordering-system
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: How do i include my own window to the aard layout and make it lockable?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: I would look at the scripts already in place and try and reverse engineer the feat
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any miniwindow that uses movewindow will be locked
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: layout locking is a modification to the movewindow.lua file not individual plugin miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: ill have a look because my window is stil dragable after locking the rest
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: got a link to the code for your plugin?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: its the older consider window plugin named Aardwolf_Consider_Window
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9681&page=5
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. it does use movewindow...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I'd suggest look at mini map
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry... wrong channel
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Feranesa: type 'checkversion' please?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: im suing r1937
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. testing the plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I'm looking at this plugin...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do I need to do to make it do something?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I see a small miniwindow, but it's not updating.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you're right that it doesn't lock in place, and that's odd
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: it should update on xp giving mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only xp giving ones?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gotta find one of those
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: it grabs the output of the scan command and fills the window with the mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: got it. yeah I guess it updates if the mobs are high enough level
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now why it doesn't lock in place...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's still a mystery
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I see the problem
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll probably need to make an update
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: That was fast Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the real question is why I put the locking where I did and not somewhere else
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I never leave myself notes
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: I will wait for the next update, for now i gotta head home
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: r1938 has the fix
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: what is the process for upgrading your mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: just downloaded it.. do i need to do something to keep my db etc etc
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not for the newer versions, no.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id keep a copy of your db and Aardwolf.mcl just in case
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: weird.. just got a notification to update but then it took me to a place where i got the latest .zip
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But like Kash said, make a backup. Easiest way is to right-click MUSH folder, copy, then move it somewhere else.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Should be getting the exe file.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's an automatic installer.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm..
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Finger Fiendish for the link.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah i think thats where i got it
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: This link? https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: there is the exe.. got it
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i've been running it from the zip previously
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i'll make a backup of the zip just incase
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: okey copied it over old version and it looks like everything is ok...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: cool.. thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torax Tech: how do i unlock minwindows to move them
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: and aard layout lock will lock them back in again.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torax Tech: thanks 
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torax Tech: thanks l
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 'aard layout help' will give some command help in newer versions
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What's up with pep8's 79 column rule?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a good rule :-)
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Even at this day and age?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same as the message you get when you go to post a note
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a style guide...much of python is still done in terminals...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm is there a way to make a trigger trump any other commands you have stacked?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: name it donald
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I guess I haven't really delved into it to notice it that much
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods.. thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: just curious
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: sorry, couldn't resist.  Set the 'sequence' number lower :)
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you override how your clien handles everything...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue is that once you've typed something, it's sent to the MUD and is held there...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, if you stacked?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: control-K and have a relog trigger
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods.. that makese sense...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: only way to terminate a stack
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: well one can dream :P
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd have to either write a client-side stack (delay sending stuff), or as Starling said, disc/reconnect to clear your queue, since your stack is associated with a particular connection
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's because the command stack exists on the mud itself, not on the clientside
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: starling this makes sense
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bamboo, from the docs: Some teams strongly prefer a longer line length. For code maintained exclusively or primarily by a team that can reach agreement on this issue, it is okay to increase the nominal line length from 80 to 100 characters (effectively increasing the maximum length to 99 characters), provided that comments and docstrings are still wrapped at 72 characters.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Python standard library is conservative and requires limiting lines to 79 characters (and docstrings/comments to 72).
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Is pep8 built into python?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I haven't tried going over those numbers
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO, pep8 is kind of a bad name for the tool, because pep8 is actually the written style convention for python...so the pep8 tool is just a checker against those guidelines...should be called pep8check, or gpep8 or something
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is maintained by the core of python devs, though
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Or I mean, just call it a linter :P
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Like every other stack
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, the same people also make pylint, so I guess that was taken...one's checking for proper code, the other's just checking style conventions
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: IMO, they've blurred that line. Line length is a linter job
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i have an external hd the i transfered a lot of data to, filled it up to 100%, now my computer doesn't see the hd, any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: how do i convince the fiendish mapper to move me to the entrance of an area without having to memorize or code in the starting room vnums?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: mapper extender plugin or create an alias that executes a "mapper goto" for whatever you want the entrance to be
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: couldn't get the mapper extender to work though
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: anyone available to help me troubleshoot the mapper extender?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: anybody know why when i'm attempting to import ww's s&d xml mushclient is saying unable to open or read, checked permissions already
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: anybody around here?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: trying to get mushclient to add the ww's s&d plugin, but it's saying unable to open or read, running in wine on ubuntu, checked permissions
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: HOW are you adding it?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: AFAIK, it's just drag and drop, innit?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: file, plugins, add, click
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's "save as .xml file, ctrl+shift+p, add, open file you just saved"
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But....why?!
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger screams loudly!
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah, that gives me the not able to open or read error
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: with all the triple threat plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Make sure you're saving the raw version of it. Also, depends on where you got it from, because his version will not work past 1825.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: ah...i'm on current version mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: have you looked at the xml file to see if its actually an xml file?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: there is a fix, though, finger Nokfah for the fix.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: his web address?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i found that earlier, thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Starling has one, too.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: She's actually added some features.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i was gonna say, i think starling's is the most up-to-date
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So weird to be seeing that name again
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: In fact, she's taken it upon herself to maintain it for future use.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What features did Starling add?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: The ability to determine if it's room or cp in a cleaner format, removed the "bug" of moving the window out of bounds.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Others that I'm not sure about.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: same error for his xml's
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Her, you mean?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Or you referring to Duckbat?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Duckbat isn't even in the picture.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nokfah
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Err yeah sorry, not sure why i said Duckbat, he only had the proxy stuff :P
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What error?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's on -h
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, but he could be more specific.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: unable to read or open xml files when adding plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Where are you saving the plugins?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean...not sure how. That reads like the actual error.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: He's on WINE.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: have it saved in my mushclient/worlds/plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: on wine under ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That should be fine for WINE
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: newest version of mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: not sure what else i can add
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's the file permissions on it?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what are the permissions?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: read/write
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For user or user and group?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But when I ran it on Ubuntu I usually just had the folder in ~ and did "wine MUSHclient.exe"
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or other?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: user/group
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if you dont have them chown'ed to the right user...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: possible...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: only user
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: chown -R $(whoami) $dir
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If you run that for the root folder you should be fine
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: root of mush, not your file system root
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: eh?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: missing operand
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also, if you could `ls -l` on the xml file, that would potentially show us if that's the issue
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: $dir would be whatever the actual directory would be
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: from ls -l -rw-rw-r-- 1 greendragonholdings greendragonholdings  15632 Oct 17 20:32 WinkleWinkle_Extender_GUI_2.xml
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean, that should be fine...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's got read/write
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Screw it, 777 is because why not
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 777 it*
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: command?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: chmod 777 WinkleWinkle_extender_GUI_2.xml
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Err, but with a capital E, just tab complete it
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: same error
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And you did the `chown -R $(whoami)`?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: chown -R $(whoami) /path/to/mush/client/folder
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: just did, didn't seem to have an effect...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm really not sure what else to try..
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah, screwy
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: l
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i feel like it's a pathing error in wine...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean, the rest of the plugins are working, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: true...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also, Fiendish develops on WINE, it's pretty solid
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah i heard
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: still, this is wierd that only these plugins are failling
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Agreed. Unfortunately, I don't use MUSH anymore, so I'm limited in what I can assist with
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: needs me a specialist
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You have teamviewer or some other remote assist tool?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: can set up an appointment for tomorrow, wifi is stolen (crappy) at my apt
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I feel like it's probably a mishap in the xml file
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Like misisng the closing tag or something
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: ...i checked that
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: but it does have errors if firefox tries to load it, though that seems normal
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: pastebin it
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or use an online xml linter
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: one sec, it's a short line
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://www.xmlvalidation.com/
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: seems the only errors are mushclient related when i validate, looks fine
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Damn
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That was my last idea.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: oh well
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you post the exact mushclient error?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's a big difference between 'unable to read file' and 'this xml looks bogus'
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: Unable to open or read
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that's the entire error message
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: According to the source code, that's a generic catch for any file exception
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Which isn't great for debugging
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: not great, no
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: For reference: https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient/blame/master/evaluate.cpp
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Line 685
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah, not useful
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Although, I do see a specific catch for XML validation, so we know it's not that.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's just some other generic file error
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You actually choose the file with a file picker, right? You're not just typing in a path
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Save a copy of the plugin to your home directory
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Try choosing that one
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: and i've tried from multiple different locations
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i'll try home
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: nvm then :P
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered 
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: for money.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: hey fiendish, help me figure out this problem i'm having with wine mushclient and plugins failing to be read?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: fiendish is not allowed to play outside tonight
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that's tragic, this problem is annoying
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: his fault, he didnt do his homework
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: bad fiendish
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I notice you use StopEvaluatingTriggers(true) a few times in the triggers, which prevents other plugins from evaluating. Is there a speed advantage to preventing other plugins?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Maruxus, I use MUSH+Wine. Are the failing plugins from fiendish or...?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i'm trying to install the ww triple threat dealy with mapper extender and search and destroy
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you had spent as much time learning the areas as you have wrangling with this script.. ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i've done both :P only two days on this script so far
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i have an external hd that i transfered a lot of data to, filled it up to 100%, now my computer doesn't see the hd in a usb port, any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: and this is like my 3rd or 4th time here
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: over 15 years or so :P
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Kinjin, you have now learned why backups are a good thing and there are two kinds of hard drive: those which have failed, and those which have not failed YET
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades glares at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: seems strange that it would fail at that exact point
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try it in a different USB port. Reboot the PC.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try it in a different PC. If none of that works, you're probably hosed.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and try something else in the ISB port
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have used those www. From where did you download them (i.e., which versions)?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: kk, thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: talking to me zhalut?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i got the 2.0 version from...like github or something
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Abelinc might be able to retrieve the data for you
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: prolly would take him 5 minutes or so
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Did you get the WWW from either Nokfah or Starling? Older versions can be bugged
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: no9pe, starling's were like 1.3, nokfah was just a mod to 2.0 which i also tried
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: same failure
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: opend up the harddrive encloser, hd completely cold and not running at all, does that sound like a hd failure or enclosure failure?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, it does sound like those things
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: What do I type to get it to show the lvl of items in my inv again?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: inv
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: to show the items level
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: inv
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: it shows when you type inv
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: the level is next to the item
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: lol thats my problem, the lvl is gone
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: same when i type eq, it shows all my equip but no lvls next to them
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: probably some plugin quenching it?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: config noobjlevel on
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: or yes/no
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: Thanks smart sir
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: you saved the day, levels are back on
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: is anyoe available?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: My main window isn't working
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Tell us what you mean by not working?  And what client are you using?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I am on aardwolf. When I logged on is saus you have 25 lines per page and then say pagesize 0...but it womt let me change my pagesize
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: so I can move around and see it in my map windows but my main window is just the commands that I type
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: so aardmush
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ugh...I am not moving now
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: is there a way to reset everything
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: In mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: not sure. let me peek
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: BriarRose, you like you have a plugin capturing all from your client.  Do you have a %c at the end of your prompt?  That causes this issuea  lot.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Both battle prompt and prompts should have a %c
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: Maybe Mendaloth is a better helper on this one
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I don't have a prompt right now, so I don't know
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you happen to be checking inventory when this happened?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Press CTRL SHIFT P, remove Aardwolf_inventory_serials from that list.  Fix it?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: you know when you enter a command..you see the command and then you see the command carried out? All I see is the typed in command...nothing else
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I know the issue, I'm trying to help you find the cause :)
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I don't have that on my plugins list
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: and I disabled all the plugins that I personally added...Thank you Mendaloth. 
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And did that fix it?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: no, I did that before I asked about it. Let me double check
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...no disableding all the plugins that I added did not help
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: WHat plugins do you have on the list now?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What you are describing happens when a plugin starts capturing all and misses the closing trigger that SHOULD stop capturing all.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I have all the omes that start Aardwolf that came with the orginal download. The only things I added were search and destroy and sharptracker and they are disabled
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: In that list do you see something called aardwolf_inventory_serials?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It comes WITH mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: let me look again
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: no it is not there
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well try reloading the the plugins one by one, one of them is the cause.  Unless you accidentally created a trigger yourself.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Post a screenshot of your entire plugin list if you want me to take a look.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And by the way your prompt is entirely off right?  Not just blank...
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: sigh...I am sorry Mendaloth. I don't know how...where would I post it and I will figure it out
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type "prompt" what does it say?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I don't see it right now
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: nothing...I don't see anything but what I type...so response to any commands in the main window
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I am going to take a screenshot...where do I post it?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Close out mushclient - reopen it should work until the offending plugin refires.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...I will be right back
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And when you do that, type config all, send response in a note to me
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ummm...ok it is working fine now
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ok now post config all to me.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: sigh...all of a sudden I am getting a run-time error from my sharptracker.any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, typing just "prompt data" will be better than scrolling to the bottom of "config all" :-)
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as for sharptracker, we can't have many ideas without seeing the original error message...the best thing to do is copy that and go to www.pastebin.com, paste it into there and send the link that it gives you.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok..I will do that
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for sharptracker, make sure you're using the one from https://hadar.ninja/plugins/ instead of the one from opochtli...hadar fixed a few things after opochtli stopped playing Aard
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Is it possible to download speedwalks that use mapper room numbers from somewhere?  I mean, aliases like "rt <area>" and then they use "mapper goto <room number>" to make you go to that area? 
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...let me try that
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shaleya: the mapper extender portion of S&D does that...you'd use xrt <areaname>
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will look up the areaname in its internal table of area name to first-room-mapper-numbers, and use mapper goto there
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it ships with a "normal" list of first rooms, but you can choose any room in an area to be the xrt destination by using "xset mark" when in the right room
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's handy for areas which have different sections for different level ranges, such as pre-and-post-jump eternal autumn
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Wow, sounds great. I have S&D, but it doesn't seem like I have the extender. Where do I get that from?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Or rather, I tried the command, and got a runtime error?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, if you got a runtime error, it means that you have it, but you probably have WinkleWinkle's version of it, which broke with later MUSHclients because it abused a field in the mapper database instead of using its own table
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: True, it says WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger Starligh for the latest iteration, which includes that fix, a fix for the autohunt triggers, and a fix for the "off the screen" issue
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...I am adding hadar's now
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err starling
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: starling
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Fantastic, thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starling for shaleya, hadar for briarrose :-)
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: giggle...ok
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: It is working! Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, it looks like that particular error you got should be able to be fixed by adding require "commas" to the top of the script part of Sharptracker, but iirc things like hardcore and OPK bonuses would either crap it out or just not record info, which was what Hadar fixed
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Beautiful! Thank you so much!
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Wow, it works, thanks a million!
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob, I just know where to find stuff :-)
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry about fading off last night without answering any questions :\
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: happens to the best of us
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I am all fixed! LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}~Goddess~ Sirona Tech: and the worst of us ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if anyone has any mushclient questions now, I promise I'm not going to immediately leave
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: how to screenshot on a laptop?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: depends on the laptop
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what OS?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: My has a button that says prt sc
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: hp laptop windows 2010
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is windows 2010?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: win 10 pro
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: I'm running back n forth lol
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.howtogeek.com/226280/how-to-take-screenshots-in-windows-10/
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just hit print screen (PrtScr) or alt-prtscr ?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you can
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: then paste to paint
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know why, but I can't get SAPI from speechsdk to work in Wine anymore
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish lets out a string of curses that would make you blush if we hadn't censored him.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Uh oh
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is annoying. it used to work
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Never used it, can't assist much :P
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah noone does
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: except I used it for making sure that SAPI fallback works in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I feel that though. Had to do some PLMN work, impossible to find even resources, much less help
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now I just have to hope it still works if someone is using windows
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Windows has free VMs now, have you checked that it isn't broken natively?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but they're huge downloads and I don't have free space on my laptop
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It could be something well beyond WINE, potentially
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if this is a new real problem, best possible case it means mushclient in wine won't work anymore with tts :\
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: To be fair, I have to assume that's a limited user base for you in general, no?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm hoping it's just a debian problem or a my computer problem
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I like to know that things that are supposed to work do work
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I never had a problem with it before
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I get that, but losing your mind over edge cases is how projects die :P
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're not wrong
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: i'm just an asshole :P
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: To quote The Dude.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: are there updated versions of the mushreader and output functions plugins?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: h
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hi everyone. MUSHclient questions answered.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: Fiendish, would comm log filter be too much trouble to make for you?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: clarify the request please
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: tabs for different chans
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's been on my todo list for a very very long time
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: and a special filter for auction chan - when an auction aint active anymore, it just get cleared from the log
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: oh:)
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yeah. because auction tends too flood too much occasionally
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish declares the academy a waste of time, then asks how the hell do you play this mud anyway?!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm is it possible to use hunt in a cexit?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's a good question. let me think about it
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh hey fiendish 
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nice to meet ya btw
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i was thinking perhaps doing like a cexit ah some mob; wait some time
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: not sure if you can do that
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well...
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so let's se..
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can definitely initiate the hunt command and then wait for some definite period of time
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the problem will be that cexits link between rooms, not to mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: right.. i'm just wonder if you could perform several hunts while the wait continues
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you don't end up in the same place every time then you'll get a kinda bad result
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah. thats what i'm afraid of
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: the alternate solution is add a note to the room to hunt for the target before moving on
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i suppose that could work
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mmm
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: take the entrance of vlad for example.. you start off in a maze
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so for the entrance of vlad it might actually work fine
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it wouldn't be very fast, and it would break if the mob vanishes
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah..
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: note in the room then :P
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if you can hunt an unkillable mob
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i got a feeling i'm playing with fire 
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then you could conceivably make a cexit that starts an autohunt and then waits a predefined amount of time that is determined to be "enough"
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah thats what i was thinking you could do
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: so you do like a cexit_wait lets say 10 seconds
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: but you will also need to wait in the sequence i think
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you do a wait() then you don't need to do cexit_wait. it happens automatically
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: score.. the syntax for wait is like wait(5)
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nice.. i think this might work..
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: now.. what happens if the mob disappears :P
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yuck
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: find a mob that won't disappear, I guess
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess you could keep hunting different mobs until you find one that isn't missing and then stop hunting when you get to the entrance to the castle, heh
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: how do you get to the help window of search and destroy?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ww help
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: thankyou
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Really wish there was an easy way to switch between TV speakers and laptop speakers when my HDMI cable is connected. A toggle would be nice rather than going into Playback devices and switching it there.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: physical switch?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Have to go through Sound Settings -> Playback Devices -> TV Speakers -> Set default.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: apparently you can install the bash shell on windows 10 and it can do "almost everything" according to what I read, possibly go via that route?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: windows subsystem for linux is not bad
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: ubuntu by default, but u can swap that out if you like a different distro better
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i made a shortcut to the sound settings popup window, so that i can change it from speakers to headphones in a snap. (for win7)
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, Negadar... How did you do that?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: control panel > search sound, right click 'Sound', > create shortcut
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ah, yeah.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I just want a toggle. :( 
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: "TV sound on/off"!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: shrug :)
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not sure if any of this is helpful, but https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9838514/setting-playback-device-by-executing-a-batch-file-powershell-script
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oo, that may be what I need then.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: do password requirements actually improve security?  It seems like they would only provide guidelines for refining one's bruteforce procedure.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So I learned something today.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Turns out, clicking on the sound icon in your windows taskbar will pop up options to send sound through your laptop or tv...
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So... uh.. since that's about as close to it as I'm going to get, I'll settle. :p
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: After Acidrayne Arcidayne's stupid remark, Real ninja Starling baps him upside the head; he DID deserve it.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Admittedly, I'm going to start using AutoHotKey now.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: How do I migrate all my aliases and triggers to the new version of MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Copy over your .../worlds/Aardwolf.mcl file to the new version.  That file is where your aliases and triggers are stored.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I copied over my Aardwolf.mcl file, but no triggers or aliases transferred.  I even restarted the new version.  Did I do somehting wrong?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Import them instead.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Please tell me you made a backup of it.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Backups? We don't need no freaking backups where we're going.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers with General Xaeris about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I didn't back them up.  I was told I could just copy the Aardwolf.mcl file from the worlds folder.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Heh, should always have a backup. Assume everything is going to go wrong.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you had a new mush installation, overwriting the mcl file there shouldn't have lost anything
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I didn't install the new version over the top of the other version.  I installed in a new folder entirely.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you still have your original mush folder, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Yes!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: then don't worry, you didn't lose anything
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Cool, so how do I get from Old to New?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: when I was in your situation I just copied over the mcl file and everything just worked.  I didn't realize there was an import option though (like Arcidayne mentioned).  That is probably a cleaner way to merge the two versions.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I'll try import, but basically I import the old world file, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's how I'm interpreting it, but I haven't tried that yet so I probably shouldn't comment :P
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: OOOH!  Damn!  I think importing was the key!!!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Damn.  Who would have thought using the built-in features for something would work better than manually copying files behind the scendes? :P
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Copying over = BAD, IMPORTING = GOOD!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ard Tiarna Grimvald quietly practices his golfclap.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Spank, the ludditetard thanks you!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Sense Anaristos eyes A Nimwit Spank suspiciously.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no habla
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: don't destroy the bots :>
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: So...since it's working now you've made a backup already, right? *grin*
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Yessiree!  It's backed up elsewhere on my drive, and on my thumb!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you know the easiest way to upgrade is to make a copy of your old folder but then point the installer at one of those copies
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that way you get a backup but you also don't have to copy stupid files around
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skalass Tech: In the config options, what does xterm do? I read the helpfile but it didn't explain much
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: turns on 256 xterm colour mode
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skalass Tech: but what does 256 xterm color mode do?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: instead of only 16 colours it renders text that is in the other colour correctly
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skalass Tech: Sounds nice, thanks for the help :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: fiendish are you here?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: he's not here
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: crap
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I might let him get online when he's done doing the dishes
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: My main screen isn't working again...it keeps happening and I don't know how to fix it or why it keeps doing it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: plug it in?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "not working" how?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: he not get signal, main screen not turn on
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: sounds like someone set up us the bomb
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: You know how when you type something and hit enter...you get an 'echo' of what you typed and then you see the command played out
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: all I see is what I typed
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: perhaps your hercules graphics card needs to be replaced
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: there are no rooms...descriptions...
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: aardmush
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but channels and whatnot show up just fine in the main window?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: try 'resetaard' if nothing else
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: everything loads like normal...then it says indexing area levels and pagesize 0
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: then says pagesize 25 and that is it...nothing
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what plugins are you running?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: this is the third time it has happened...I have never figured out what fixes it...it just works
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it sounds like you have a conflicting plugin somewhere screwing with the aardmush init script
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is S&D problem
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I had hadar sharptracker, SandD and a repop from hadar...I have already disabled them...and both my prompts have the %c
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Try removing them, instead of disabling
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: They might still have overrode something by existing
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you see indexing ... then you have not disable S&D - remove that plugin and restart mush
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Search and Destroy 1.3.2 has a glitch where the links don't show up correctly sometimes, but it shouldn't do anything to screw up any of your other windows
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: all of my other widows are fine...
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so which window is messed up?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: just the main window
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically plugin waits for certain line, and it gags all output till it receive that line
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it shouldn't screw up your main window either, I don't see how it could
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Type "tags" for me, ensure they're all on
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what version of mush are you running, what version of search and destroy?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 1.3.2 in particular doesn't gag the area indexing info (i.e. output from 'areas 0 300 keywords')
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Search and Destroy says 3_8 beside it...I don't know how to check the version on Mush...I should mention that I am a computer idiot
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so if you're not seeing the output from that command, then you're using something other than S&D 1.3
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: help > about mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: S&D says 3_8?  where does it say that?  in the file name, or ... ?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I can't do that...no output
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: you can't click on the help menu above, and then click on "about mushclient" ?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: when I open the plugins and look...hold on I have the file...I will look at it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: In the menu bar
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: oh that...ok
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You should absolutely be able to click that help, or your entire client is borked :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Mush is 4.98
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, yeah, that's old
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: very old
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and your S&D is old too, as 1.3 won't run on older versions of mush
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: SandD is 2.8.1
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just reinstall all the latest stuff, IMO
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ah, yep, definitely obsolete
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: type: area hall
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Re-grab the latest aard mush, grab the latest S&D, etc
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...so I will do that. The last time I updated Aard, I lost a TON of crap and it never worked so I actually went back to this one
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Install Fiendish's latest Mush version, and then get the newest S&D from my whois/finger.  Current version is 1.3.2 but it won't be current much longer as 1.3.3 is out this weekend, after I finish up some more testing and whatnot
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: make a backup of your current setup, just to be sure
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there were issues with Fiendish's installers in the past, but those have been deprecated
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I would just rename your current Mushclient folder to mushclient_old or similar and then run Fiendish's installer and let it do its thing
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You'll have to download plugins again, but you'd want to do that regardless
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: but it will move my DB over and everything right?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if it doesn't, just copy and paste it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...here I go :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: any custom scripts would have to be copied as well, but just take it one thing at a time and you'll get there
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: questions, well you already know where to find us :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello all
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: BriarRose: fix your prompt
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I JUST downloaded this version...I don't even see a prompy
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: prompt
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: that is the default prompt...how do I fix it and my DB info is gone
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ok ok...let's back up a long way and get me caught up
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You have a screen blanking problem, yes?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Yes...my main screen
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Right now?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: it had happen three times
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Right now I am working...but I downloaded a newer version from your site...I JUST logged on from that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I had like 4.36 or something like that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type "checkversion" please
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: R1940
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and are you currently still experiencing the problem? or was the problem there before and now it's gone?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: if there is a newer one...send me there before I do anything else :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: before and now gone...but I did lose all of my DB stuff...I made a copy of my DB...do I just override it in this new file?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: please type "prompt data" and tell me the last 4 symbols in Rawcolor Game Prompt and Rawcolor Battle Prompt
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to type @ you have to type @@
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: %c on both
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ack @W
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok good. so the new prompt fixer fixed you up. NOW
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you say you lost your db. When you installed the new version, what exact steps did you do?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I did finger fiendish, copy/paste the site and downloaded then clicked on the application file...any more than that requires an explanation 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where did you tell it to install to
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Well...I didn't notice it asking...but it DL to my deaktop.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: more specifically, did you tell it to install to a new location or on top of your previous install?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not asking where you downloaded it to. I'm talking about while you're running the installer.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: it didn't ask me...I clocked download and the little down arrow showed up and I had to find it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: When you run the installer program it asks you where you want to install to
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this is why I suggest renaming your old setup to mushclient_old
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Oh...I told it to install where it suggested I do...I did
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I renamed it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Did I mention I am a computer idiot?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's ok, I'm not
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only one of us needs to know what's going on
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I did rename the file...it said do you want to intall here...I said yes and didn't even look. I figured it knew what it needed to do
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ok, so it installed on your desktop then?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: yes it did
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Alright. Here's what you're going to do...
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: do I need to take note
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you get to decide that for yourself
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok go
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You're going to quit MUSHclient. Then you're going to duplicate your old renamed MUSHclient folder back to what you had it as before, so that now you will have 2 OLD MUSHclients. Then you will run the installer program again, and this time tell it to install on top of the one that you want to upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: how do I run the installer again
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: double click on it?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's the thing you downloaded
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: so go back to your site and do it again
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you like
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or go find where your web browser saves downloads
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because it's probably still there
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...I might be back with more questions! Thank you for your help so far :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you understand what I mean by duplicate?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I am assuming that they need to be the same name so it will propmt me to do an overwrite and just hange out the files for me
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: change out the files...sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's back up then so I can clarify
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Right now you have an old mushclient folder, let's call it MUSHclient_old and a new one, let's call it MUSHclient_new.  Correct?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I want you to click on the MUSHclient_old and then Ctrl+C Ctrl+V to copy paste.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Then you should have MUSHclient_old and MUSHclient_old (copy) and MUSHclient_new
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let me know when this is done
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: oh ok..brb
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: sorry...I copy/paste my entire download file the first time...but I fixed it and I have 2 old and one new
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok good
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now what is your old one called ?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Aardwolf Old!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Would you like your new one to be called Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: That would be sinple and helpful
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, then rename the 2nd old one to be called just Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so then you should have Aardwolf_OLD, Aardwolf, and MUSHclient (new)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok it's done?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now run the installer again and this time when it asks where to install, go and find the Aardwolf folder
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...now this is when it gets a little iffy for me
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: is there something in that folder that will say installer?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you say "that folder", to which folder are you referring?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: The MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: so I use Chrome and when I download it one of the options is open when downloaded...so when it finished the installer started automatically. I am confused on where it is at because it was automatic...I apologize
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so just go download it again
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: that I can do...Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: So...I did that...and I still have nothing. 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I tried to just overwrite mt DB and apparently I don't have the permissions needed to do that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: god
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, I completely spaced out and forgot about you
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where were we
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I don't blame
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: blame you
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok so you downloaded the installer. then what did you do
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: so it didn't work...I tried to just overwrite my database and it says I don't have the permissions needed
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: It started and asked me where to save it and I hit browed and hit the Aardwolf file and let it go
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: brower
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so let's assume for the moment that you did that correctly
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: quit MUSHclient and go open the one in your Aardwolf folder
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...brb
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Fiendish this is also BriarRose...sorry I typed in Amya on accident
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: This is my main character
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you'd logged out and logged in as briarrose without telling me then I'd never have known 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: lol...I dont care if you know :) That is true though
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...I closed it and open it out of the Aardwolf file
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: no it still shows that I have never been in my manor 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I checked and none of my mapper notes are here either
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type checkversion
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: R1940
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you ran MUSHclient, was it in the same place as the old one used to be?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I only have 2 files now. I have the Aardwolf old and Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have MUSHclient - [Aardwolf] in window title? (maybe you've accidentaly changed world name)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: The top says MUSHclient [Aardwolf]
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: with the dash...sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what happened to the new one? deleted it?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is as it should be (with the dash)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Yes...you told me to go back and do it again...so I deleted the first one and started over and instead of putting in on my desktop I saved in Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Odd. Mine says "MUSHclient - [Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ] :p
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's fine...probably
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, I don't have any issues on my end. I just never noticed it until now.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess I don't know what's going on though. Before you updated, your db was ok?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: the DB was fine...I have a copy of it...I made a copy of it 4 days ago when this all started
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when what all started?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: this is the thrid time I have lost my main screen
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh right, that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL...yes that conversation was so long ago!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you have also auto backups of aard, easiest way should be just closing mush and restoring db from db_backups subfolder
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but if the db isn't there then it means we can't be in the right place
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means other settings also won't be there
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh hey. when you opened MUSHclient, did it _look_ like your old one?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like where the miniwindows in the right places?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: were
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: there is a DB there...just not mine. All the work for exploring and adding mapper notes...those are gone
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: the windows are fine. I need to move them back where I want them
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: but there are here and working
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you need to move them back to where you want them, then they're not fine
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: gotcha...yea they are note where I had them
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: not
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think either the install didn't go to the right place or the copy didn't go like I expected
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I should make a pictorial walkthrough
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: can't y0ou just control my computer and fix it :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably, but you'd have to want that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Honestly right now...yes. I have no reason to not trust you...do I?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's not really a question I get to answer for you
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You do realize that question isn't productive? If he were a dishonest person you couldn't trust, he'd lie and say he is. :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Fiendish is a leet hacker so watch your back ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are paranoid you could imagine that world greatest hacker Shade has invented mush just so you one day have troubles and ask him to use teamviewer to remote control your super safe PC :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: It was a joke...I trust him AND if he is a hacker and wanted my crap...he wouldn't need my permission
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But you can trust Fiendish. He wouldn't put so much work into MUSHclient if he were dishonest.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok I'm downloading teamviewer. you should get it too
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you don't already have it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Exactly...I have no reason to think has anything but the best intentions...the do I...was a joke
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Nah, hackers need some information on you if he wants to target you specifically.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: oh...um ok...brb
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne loves me some teamviwer.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I would let fiendish control my computer but all he would find is my impressive collection of cat vids
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: teamviewer. Bah.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: cast 'mind control' fiendish
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: err
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: "cat vids"... sure.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Have to have intelligence to be able to cast it successfully.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne runs away from Real ninja Starling in utter terror and horror!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not a best choice of remote control tool if you mind privacy (VNC is probably a bit better), but quite convenient (ie really simple) to use
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: arci is just jelly that fiendish wrote abelinc so he didn't have to field so many questions. Arci wishes he had one.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: be right back. I think I need to reboot for this to run. stupid kernel modules
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: [Melvin]: You mean like me, Melvin?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: melvin, chat Is Tol wrong?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: now cast it out into another whole player
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oh yeah, he doesn't work on tech chan.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: At least, the chat portion.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok I have it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne tickles Melvin.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Does Melvin ever argue with you?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: All the time.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: (Group) Arcidayne: 'melvin, chat say "I am stupid."' --> Group) Arcidayne: '[Melvin]: Arcidayne: OK. "You are stupid."'
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: He hates me.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Did I miss a message while I was downloading that...I don't want him to be waiting for me :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Nah, he hasn't said anything yet, but check tells just in case.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: he is going to find some stupid mistake that I made :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: he's currently attempting to resist my mind control attempts, sorry for any inconvenience
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: We all make stupid mistakes.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: he rebooted his system - I guess thats some osx specific thing
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also seems so unusual, as osx is some kind of unix - then I would expect that it never requires rebooting (at least after installing new software)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: What I just understood was Also seems so unusual, blah blah balh blah...I am so illiterate :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You mean you can't read?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: not when you start adding computer words
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I do not know what osx or unix are...it is embarrassing when I have to ask for help. You has to be dumbed down really really low
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now with Fiendish eliminated, I can remote control your stystem :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there is never anything wrong with asking for help, that's why we have the channel turned on :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Trachx, u aren't controlling anything, ninja.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: giggle
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have fiendish mind controlled and am currently siphoning his brain
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: you all have been very nice
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: PATIENT
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what was he trying to help you with, maybe I can advise
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: of course we're nice and patient
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: otherwise, we'd be Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades glares icily at you, you feel cold to your bones. 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: restoring aardwolf database after (un)successful mush upgrade
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: EXACTLY
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: abelinc is... kind of ok... once you look past some stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have a lot of work in that DB
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and scold you for not using SunOS as your default home operating system
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: what the hell is that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: your aardwolf mapper database?  aardwolf.db ?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Oracle abandoned that system I think
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I prefer to use MoonOS. I like to live on the dark side.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL Arci
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: should be able to just copy from old to new
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Starling: Fiendish had been working with her for a while, and nothing he's suggested has helped.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The best thing about sun was their logo.  I used to just stare at it :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC Niagara was also quite impressive
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I tried to just overwrite the file but it says I don't have the permissions in the new file...frustrating it is my dang computer...I should have nothing BUT permissions
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: It has been about 2 hours
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: and I have been having trouble for about 4 days
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: are you using windows explorer to view the folders/files ?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, have you tried overwrite files when Mush was open?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so, then permission denied was right message
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: because you cannot overwrite file that is used by some process (ie Mush)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: first thing I would do is reboot your machine now, the "you don't have permissions" can be due to any number of things, often a program not releasing control whe it should
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: reboot your computer and that should clear up any such issues, assuming that's what's going on, but when in doubt, never hurts to reboot
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I should do that now before fiendish comes back?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: once you're rebooted and logged back in we'll see about copying the db from the old setup to the new
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yes, reboot now
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i'm not going anywhere (working on S&D) and if he gets back first I'll let him know what's going on
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: never hurts to reboot and start with a somewhat cleaner slate.  Only exception being if you think the PC might not start up again, but you're typically looking at disk damage or OS corruption if you're worried about that :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: This may have already been answered, but Amya... WHERE do you have your MUSHclient folder located?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: no...I am worried about this code I have for this viewer thing
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't worry about the code.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: teamviewer?  don't worry about that now, you should be rebooting your computer :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: it is in my download folder...the old and the new
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Highly doubtful rebooting will do anything, Starling... 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: never hurts
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Your download folder is C:\Users\YourName\Downloads?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ummm...yes
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: whelp, I can't get teamviewer to run
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You are the administrator on your account?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I would think so
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And it's not letting you copy your db over the old one?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: no...I can access the old one but when I try to put it in the new one it tells me I can't. I tried to fix the permissions but I don't think I did it right
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Can you move the old one somewhere else (or rename it?) before you try to copy the other one over?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: To be honest, my steps would involve moving MUSHclient from Downloads to root, so it would be C:\MUSHclient. Then downloading the installer from Fiendish, which will upgrade and overwrite necessary files. From that point, you should have your old DB.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Moving the OLD Mushclient, that is.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Because the automatic installer will pretty much do everything for you.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Well...when I did the installer I had it override the old one like he told me too...I just made an extra copy of my database in case I screwed it up...I know me
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And since Fiendish can't get his to run, if you'd like, I can access your computer through my teamviwer.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mushclient is usually located in c:\MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not necessarily. It depends on where you installed it to begin with.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I would open up windows explorer and see if you have that folder, either under c:\ or under program files
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: that is fine Arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Okay, Amya. I'm going to send you a tell with the next set of instructions.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: always rename your old mushclient folder to something else, like mushclient_old or similar
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: only then run the installer, imo
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: they just tend to be a bit too glitchy for my liking
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't rename it, Starling. Make a copy of the entire directory, then let the installer do what it needs to.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's what I mean, rename the MUSHclient folder to MUSHclient_old
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: don't rename anything *in* the folder, just the folder :p
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't even do that.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You make a copy of the entire directory, then move it elsewhere, where you can rename the copy, not the old one.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, whatever.  It worked for me, but I don't 'install over' my old setup anyway due to having a rough time with that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just rename the old folder and install a completely clean mushclient, then copy my mapper db, my modded mapper plugins, private scripts, aardwolf.mcl. It's a bit of a pain to move all those files, but the last time I tried to install over the old snapshot, it bombed pretty badly
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so I have a hard time recommending something that bombs and requires a lengthy repair :p
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am fixed!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling goes, "Whee!"
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so what ended up happening?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You don't remember?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, mind control will do that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: nothing untoward happened, I assure you
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: really
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Remotely logged in, moved Old MUSH from Downloads to C:\MUSHClient, used installer over old MUSH, and it worked.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: That is it!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I was going to say I could log into your pc with teamviewer to, but everyone would be like "DONT DO IT, ZOMG"
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: old mush was in downloads?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's true, we would. She wants to buy a plane and crash it into an abandoned building.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Fiendish = good, Arcidayne = mostly good but somewhat tarnished, Starling = psychotic and evil :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: And put it on Youtube, Arc.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at Real ninja Starling.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so do we know what was going wrong with previous attempts to install on top of old mush?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: what do you mean when you say you got fixed?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am sure I did it wrong
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I don't know, because I didn't attempt to install over the MUSH in downloads. I wonder, though, if Amya had Aardwolf open when trying to run the installer.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: could be. locked file and whatever
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I didnt...that was the first thing fiendish said...log off
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: technically I said quit
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: very true...I stand corrected
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but neither of those are actually what needs to happen
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I know that once or twice, I tried installing, and MUSH didn't fully remove itself from memory, so it kept getting permission errors on Dina font.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: What needs to happen is MUSHclient closed out.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "close mushclient. shut down PC. have lunch. install new mushclient."
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do i install it when the pc is shut down is there a hack
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I was almost their Fiendish...I was getting frustrated
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...going back to Briar! Thank you guys again
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is anyone here using analog phonessand
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: analog phonessands?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I can't type
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: analog phones on xfinity, using a converter
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I use digital phone sand, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Never used Xfinity's phones, either.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades: we have a number of clients who get POTS service from Xfinity, which is delivered by Comcast using a 4-line coax-to-analog converter
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it took me ages to convince my mom to stop paying a pile of cash every month to maintain an analog fax line
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Out of curiosity, what does it actually run to have a fax line?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: too much for the amount you fax per year
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How much do I fax per year?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're not paying per fax to email a scan to a drop forwarding account, you're probably paying hundreds of dollars a year too much
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my mom was just so used to having a fax line for the few papers every once in a while to the accountant
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you know, old people
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: metria are you an old people?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: old is a state of mind
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cheezburger: I think it was something like an extra $40 per month or something?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean that's not as obscene as I expected, to be fair
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is when you can send a fax for 10 cents
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I figured it'd be higher just to maintain the backbone lines
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if a fax is a few cents, and you send a fax once a month...
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't asking for myself, if I gotta fax something (which i never do) i'll go to a library
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I was more curious what it cost for info's sake :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I do send faxes, if that's what you mean by "are you an old people"
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I should send a fax to you, metria
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: As I don't have a fax machine, good luck with that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't even send things in the mail anymore. last time I needed to send something by mail, I went through an online service, paid them a few dollars and they mailed it for me from a pdf
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc will hand-deliver it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in France most recurring charge cancellations have to be requested by registered mail
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can't just call the cable company and tell them that you want to cancel service
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: same for the gym membership
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: same for the mobile phone
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: same for the power company
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there a way to force line breaks into mapper notes?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: "\n"
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just tried that and it's still shown as one line.  I also tried \r\n and that didn't do it either
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ya, not working for me either
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: do you know how to add new lines to mush commands?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: to concatenate commands, or what?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well it looks like mapper addnote pops up a dialog that is essentially just like typing into the prompt bar in mush
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you knew how to add a newline in either, I imagine it would be the same
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: more or less. i can send multiple commands via execute or send or something like that. but this doesn't seem to work the same way
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: double semicolon to tell mush to use a semi-colon if that's what you mean
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: @Atlanta trying to explicitly send a newline to mush prompts
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's not the same as chaining multiple commands
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: yeah, didn't understand your question.  sorry I dunno.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, a bunch of us are banging our heads against it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: in a lot of apps shift+enter/return will add a new line.. but not working here
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: wasn't sure if there was a way to do it or not. guess there isn't
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Nope, I do not know how to make multiline mapper comments
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think the mapper is trimming the note before saving it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh well then that's doubly difficult
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Ask the man
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: no wait, that wouldn't trim a newline from the middle of a note though, just the end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: guess if i'm forced into a corner, i can never change my screen width and put spaces in til the lines wrap
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, it seems to leave whitespace in the middle
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: ack, NO :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think it's line 551 that is doing the trimming
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Now that's just weird.  The mapper note display is just printing a string.  If a newline is in that string, the print in the mapper won't show it.  If I manually print the same string (copied/pasted) then the newline is honored.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's probably converting \ into \\ secretly
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: ah, just a sec and I'll test that
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you invoke a script command yourself, you declare that the string being displayed contains a particular series of bytes, of which \n is a special thing representing a newline. But when I send this -> "\n" obviously you see the symbol \ followed by n 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means that the thing that reads what you write has interpreted \n not as a newline but as, secretly, \\n
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just a guess
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not looking at the code
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: LOL, that was it.  If I use a gsub to replace "\\n" with "\n" then it works like you would expect.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: fiendish can you create a "portal" by dooring to a mob?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: cexi
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: you wouldn't want to use it as a cexit
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: it would need to act similar to a portal
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you create a portal by dooring?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: no diff between cexit and mapper portal
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you mean mapper portal cast door mob?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: maybe I am wrong
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suspect the answer is yes
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: no its ok.. i'm just curious
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as long as the mob doesn't move
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm thats the kicker..
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: finding something that doest move :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but you will regret it when you join GQ (cannot use doorway then)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'll want a mob that doesn't move and doesn't have duplicate keywords somewhere else
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a fundamental difference between a cexit and mapper portal...cexit requires you to be in the starting room, mapper portal just needs you to be in a qualifying room
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also the gq thing
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: mainly for me so i can cp faster
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't door to a MOB anywhere in the same area as a cp target...
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh.. thats a bummer
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the real kicker will be getting mapper portal to work with translocate
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you really want to have a command to help the mapper get places faster using door, you could do an alias which does the door, then pauses a second or two before executing mapper goto <end destination>
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: maybe you want "mapper portal [blah blah blah}" to use an alias.  You could then toggle dooring to a mob if you aren't in a GQ or using another method to get to that room otherwise
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the pause is critical, though, because MUSH cannot "read" the mapper goto command until after the door is done
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah but we said we can't door to an area with a cp mob in it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: right?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct, this would only be usable for leveling & stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah i'm trying to make cp faster here :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: faster than using portals?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if you made your alias smart enough to detect if you were in a gq you could use it either way though.  In a gq you would just do a longer way to get there
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the portal would call the same alias either way though
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I read an article called: "A collection of less commonly used unix commands"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but I figured Abelinc probably uses them on a daily basis
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those articles are usually made up of commands we use all the time }:>
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hmm.  I wonder if that would work for chaos portals.  I've been avoiding them because I didn't want to get hung up on a GQ
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yes, it does work for chaos portals
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one of my more commonly used unix commands is note
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but they have to be golden to use for a GQ of course
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: foo, I did not even know chage existed until yesterday
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it doesn't do anything other than remind me that it's not aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: there's some on the list that even  I use "often"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: https://danielmiessler.com/blog/collection-of-less-commonly-used-unix-commands/
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the downside of that sort of hackery, though, is that you write it mostly thinking about getting to one particular room, but the mapper will base all pathfinding decisions based on it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Ludicrous that those are "less commonly used". xargs gives you wings lol
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, brew
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some of them are less commonly used because they're the dumb way to do something
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and tmux: a better screen? blasphemy! (I still use screen)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I use screen because it's easier to use
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: fuser, I think that a lot
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I almost switched from screen to tmux last time they changed data structures and it couldn't reattach across versions.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Then I looked at the tmux changelog, and they broke attaching across versions about a month earlier.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but having done it once they'll probably never need to do it again
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Oh, I've already lived through them doing it several times.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It'd be nice to not have to do it again, but tmux apparently won't fix that, so...
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: attach across versions? updating screen on the system in the middle?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my only long-term screen usage is aard, so it's not horrible if I have to totally disc it for an upgrade
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: incidentally, I've gotta upgrade the OS on my aarding box this weekend
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson has 33 active sessions just on his workstation.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's ridiculous.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just run screen inside your tmux
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Of course it is.  Why would I do anything else?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't mind me, I'm drunk, so good night. :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I pretended to make cookies
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: we aren't all perfect
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean...I made something...
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I'm pretending that it might be cookies
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I had fish tacos, I am perfect
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it certainly doesn't taste like cookies
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: kinda burnt tasting. and beery
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: chocolate chip fish tacos?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably because of the beer and the burning
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, erikson likes doing things to the extreme...he's also got over 2 YEARS aard login time more than the #2 player online
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is that before or after the wrap?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson wrapped twice.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Aard is a vital part of my network monitoring infrastructure   :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, tinyfugue texts me when aard disconnects
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: rm / -Rf *
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you plan to add "mapper portal nogq #<portal num> ?" ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can control it yourself by unloading all the portals and reloading the ones you want to use
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now I just remove portals from mapper then readd them, but it would be quite useful to block them auto
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: -jh
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so automate it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's the difference?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so maybe even not "nogq" but more like "mapper portal group 1 #portalid", then "mapper enablegroup 1" / "mapper disable group 1"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well after GQ I forget to re-add them
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: making decisions _is_ hard, that's true
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not against anyone choosing to automate the selection of groups of portals. it's why I added mapper fullportal
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I prefer to not add grouping as intrinsic functionality
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could make an alias which removes those portals, adding them back in automatically in 10 mins
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cp req
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: local min = (area_range[row.areaName] or {min = 0}).min
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is with the min = 0 part in curly brackets?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi any one here please?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what's up
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: going to try and copy the message i got here
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: Window(button_window) OnSizeChangedError: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: width and height must be > 0
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: ok i cant paste the thing 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: looks like your window dimensions somehow went negative?  Maybe put in a check that if the dimensions somehow become less than zero, it forces them to be zero
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i will take a screenshot and see if i can send it throug a note. bit it is 2 error messages i got 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is this a mushclient error, or ... ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: nope blowtorch 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does "attept to concatenate upvalue" mean?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I know what concatenate means, but what is an upvalue?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: a value from an outer function
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i'm not sure why it says the value is nil, it's set to 0 plain as day
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: it doesn't see the value
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: it's out of scope
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: what you want to do is before you enter the outer function declare the value outside of it, in a table best. then all the inner functions can refer to the value.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: local x = 0 then function1(0 print(x)  function2() print(x) end end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that's how you manage private data in Lua.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't know what any of that means, sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ^xset noexp( (?<arg>off|[0-9]+))?$
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's my regexp
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: Lua allows you to persist private data by the mechanism of referring to it from in inner function so function() local x = 0 inner_functtion() x  = x * 2 end inner_function2() print(x) end end end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if I give xset noexp an argument, works fine.  If I give it none, the first conditional looks to see if wildcards.arg exists, if not it is supposed to report the noexp TNL.  Instead it just bombs.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: as I said, the variable is out of scope.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: because the <arg> part is technically never occurring, from the regexp's point of view?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: yes, since it is never initialized it doesn't really exist.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: hence nil
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what should I do about that?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: give the variable a default value
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm currently using two separate aliases, one to catch the with-arg case, and the other to catch the no-arg case
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'd like to combine them into a single alias
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: you can put the variable outside and give it a default value, then the upvalue would be valid
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: remeber the entire script  file is used by mush. you can declare the variable anywhere outside the functions you are using.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: put the variable outside?  of ... ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not trying to be dense, I just suck at using regexp to plug stuff into variables
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: you are using the variable in a function, delcare the variable outside the function so that it exists within.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: have not been able to solve this problem ever, apparently.  Looking through my aliases, every time I need to deal witn arg/no-arg cases I've had to resort to two aliases
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: rather than right separate code, make one script file so that everyting can relate to everything else.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that doesn't address the space being there though
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's in the plugin xml
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: ah, that's outside my expertise.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i'm sorry, I know you're trying to help, but I'm afraid you're going over my head here
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: would you be able to do a global variable script, Anaristos? That's how one of my systems is set up on Mudlet, it has a script that's nothing but a list of variables. Pages worth, but because they're defined there, you can just use the variable name to reference it in all subsequent scripts.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: yes, you ara allowed to set gobal variables in mush, global to your script.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that's correct, merelii
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: oh cool!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just don't understand why it's trying to say that the noexp_tnl is nil, when it is set to 0 when the plugin is installed.  The no-arg alias reports it just fine
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I even tried if not wildcards, if wildcards == nil, if wildcards == "" and all of them bomb
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: if you click on the scripts icon and open the dialog you'll see there is a box where you put the path to your script file.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I didn't even reference the 'arg' part, if there is no argument then wildcards should be nil and the conditional should work, but instead it bombs.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: back to two aliases I guess, oh well
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: you have function X( _, _, wildcards)?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's kludgy but at least it works, where combining the two definitely didn't
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: anyway< I am sorry. I am being called away.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: function xset_noexp(name, line, wildcards)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I appreciate the attempt, I'm just not very good at integrating lua and regexp yet
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: ok, then the variable wildcards should contain something.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry if I intrude... I suspect the var wildcards is nil, that's why it blows up
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but the conditional is if wildcards == nil :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so if wildcards is nil, the first part of the conditional stack should catch it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the dumb thing is that if I try to include the space as part of the arg pattern, it completely jacks everything up
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I dont understand.... I did the same thing just now, and it works
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there has got to be a way I can combine these three 'xcp' aliases into one regexp, having three 'xcp' aliases is just sloppy but I don't know what else to do
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what did you do?  I don't understand either
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I declare and alias ^mset noexp( (?<arg>off|[0-9]+))?$
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you tried to use something like https://regex101.com/ to build your regex?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: calling a testStarling function, with the usual 3 args
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that is indeed the regexp I had, but without an arg, it bombs
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and in there I print(wildcards) and print(wildcards.arg)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: did all that too, still nope
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: without args 'arg' is ""
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'd blame it on screwed up winkle code, but this is all original screwed up starling code, unfortunately
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I even added print("|" .. wildcards.arg .. "|"), just to be sure
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: xset noexp off -> ok.  xset noexp 0 -> ok.  xset noexp 1000 -> ok.  xset noexp -> bomb
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: copy and paste here you function declaration, please 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: function xset_noexp(name, line, wildcards)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: next line is print(wildcards.arg)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it bombs with error [string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Search_Destroy_132"]:199: attempt to concatenate upvalue 'auto_noexp_tnl' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if wildcard.arg ~= nil then print(wildcard.arg) end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: which is BS because auto_noexp_tnl isn't nil, it's set to 0 and nothing changes that
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if it's going to bomb it should bomb because i'm trying to print a nil value
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: except it wouldn't bomb in that case, it would just print nil
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: still don't know what an upvalue is.  Up from what?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you did change the original function ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: try something like  if wildcards.arg == nil then wildcards.arg = 0 end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't want wildcards.arg to be 0 though, because that will tell the function to turn off auto noexp
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if I comment out everything except print(wildcards.arg) and then do 'xset noexp' with no arg, it doesn't bomb.  The print doesn't display anything (not even nil) so maybe wildcards.arg is "" instead of nil?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: lua is a turd of a language :<
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: hten if it is nil what do you want it to do? 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I suppose the bombing line is this: auto_noexp_tnl = tonumber(wildcards[1])
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: report the current setting of my noexp tnl, shindo :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then check if it is nil and report on that case
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if noarg, then report values.  if arg is off or 0, turn auto noexp off.  else, turn auto noexp on and set the tnl to arg.  The regexp ensures that only "off" and positive numbers will match it, so no need to worry about people entering letters or invalid input
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and YES, wildcards.arg = "" 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: not nil... told you before :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I thought I checked for that though, and it bombed anyway
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if wildcards.arg == "" then print("yes") else print("no") end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that returns "yes" when I give no arg
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so clearly that is working
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yes, but than the function try to convert to a number that (if is not 'off')
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and nil will still bomb it because nil is not ""
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it should be: if (wildcards.arg="") then printf("Current noexp value is: " .. auto_noexp_tnl) else if (wildcards[1] == "off") or (wildcards[1] == "0") then ...... end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it should be: if (wildcards.arg=="")*
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if nothing else, I'm learning a lot by blowing up S&D again and again and again, and I definitely appreciate everyone's help and patience with my spazzy questions :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: messing with other ppl code is the best way to learn programming
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and asking is just natural, imho. I appreciate who asks
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok, well, I don't know what I did, but it's working now?  I swear it looks the same as it did when it was giving error text.  I didn't even get mad and threaten to punch my computer, so it couldn't have decided to work due to fear.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: starling, it happened to me more than once to wonder why my modified code didnt work, to realize I forgot to reload the script, or reloaded the wrong one :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ah, yes, the days of forgetting to reload scripts.  I remember those :D
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: now if we could just do away with the silly plugin id's and replace them with human-meaningful text instead of hexadecimal mumbo jumbo
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: would changing them break anything?  probably cause any settings stored in state file to get lost?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so, I've seen in some scripts where they implement functions named similar to string.char, string.gsub, etc.  I.e. they have a dot in the function name.  How do they do that?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: those are built in lua functions
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: string in this case is a class. classes in most object orientated languages are basically containers that contain their own methods, properties etc
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am kind of suprised that lua doesn't make you explicitly require the string class to utilize those functions
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is there a way I can set up a class to contain the functions in each of the plugins?  e.g., snd.xset_noexp(), extgui.draw_window(), ext.goto_number() ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry... went to take a coffee... those are OO (Object Oriented) languages... you declase a class and properties and methods of the class, and you reference them wuth '.'
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: actually, is there any reason the three plugins couldn't be combined into one?  I don't see why not.  I estimate it would be about as big as the aardmush gmcp mapper, and that runs just fine
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: actually I think in lua you can do that using the lists... I should try, I dont know lua
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and honestly, instead of bringing the 3 together, I'd split them differently... I mean 'search and destroy' does things that are NON its pertinence, like handle campaigns
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: admittedly, the more I get into this, the more I think winkle could have been tripping on acid while he was writing it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry... wrong file... mapper externder handles the campaigns... as 'mapper extender' SHOULDN'T do that :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol, you guys realize that this is freeware that he didn't have to release to the public, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: probably because it's easier to make the extender do it, since it contains all the nav functions for it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mapper extender isn't even a good name, imho.  S&D navigation control is more like it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: obviously... it's not a critique, but since starling asked if he could bring them together I game my 2 cents... professional deformation
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: well... it DOES extend the fiendish mapper functionalities.. a bit
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: what is your favorite mushclient and why
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: My favorite MUSHclient is Abelinc. He's the MUSHIEST!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: he sure is!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my favorite mushclient is always the newest one
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thought it would be his mom, arc
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: "mush! mush, sled dog, mush!"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling slinks away
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: he's not on speaking terms with his mom ever since he found out she bought a Windows-based laptop
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that would do it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I wonder which of them had the last word
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: especially since he had already procured an Indy workstation for her, for christmas
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am not quite up-to-date with mush aard package, but does it have now something like S&D's: xrt <area> (so basically mapper goto to first room of area), xm <part of room name> - that will just list room names matching given string in area, then you can type go <index> (like go 3) and next to move to next room ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: a lot of S&D's functions are just more handy interface to mapper
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: fiendish a cool feature for your mapper would be to goto next unexplored room
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I think that could be quite convenient to have those in mapper instead of in S&D
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is "mapper unmapped here"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: right.. but is there away to select first item without having to click on it?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have room uid: mapper goto <room uid>
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: I know, just make it so mapper explores the whole mud for us
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no, you have to explore manually, you can't have a script do it for you
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: especially places like 9 hells
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you can get db from clannie, then just explore by go 1/2/3/4/5
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's the conundrum, isn't it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: u know how in S&d you can hit nx? Is there something for unexplored rooms
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i'm not adding anything to automate exploring, sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: with mapper unmapped here, as well as online maps, should be enough to discover most things
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i know.. i use them like crazy
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: cp levelling is a good way to explore and get stuff done at the same time
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thats what i usually do :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's good to do both since exploring just to fill out mapper db can get a bit dull
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah no doubt
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: it does get boring :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how strange
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thats why i'm like.. man i only wanna do this once
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also you have : "areas unexplored" - and it is pretty quick to explore most areas
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just wander around a bit before you recall to turn in your quest, jeez.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh man.. thats a good one 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: didn't know about area unexplored
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I guess dull was the wrong word
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: right.. it sometimes can be tedious i think you meant (sp?)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: exploring takes a lot of time and doesn't directly generate qps, so best to do it in parallel with something else that does
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah i know what ya meant
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah thats what i usually do
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should focus on exploring epic areas, as you cannot explore them solo
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: especially IF2 (as that epic is run like once per year), Genie and Inferno
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: CPs are also good to get to know new areas
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Depends on your motiviation. If you're exploring just to get your 'rooms explored' rank higher, sure, do the epic areas. If you're exploring to make campaigns easier, epic areas aren't even on the list.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah i'm exploring to make cp easier
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then forget epic areas even exist.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: just getting any portal i can find and doing cps
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Add cexits anytime you encounter them
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah doing that as well
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and for in room portals as well
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yep and that :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: just started doing i this mort i've learned alot
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: even one particular portal can help a lot
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also build mob database/mobs locations
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: since some areas are really close to others
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I remember a time when people explored and read room descriptions because they enjoyed visualizing the game world
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i did that when i first started mudding fiendish
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when new area comes is then I go there and read all descriptions, but that is more goal related than really visualization
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I like the goal stories
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do that for new areas
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That sort of thing doesn't do well in a hack-n-slash no-rp setting.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still some areas (and their goals) are really nicely done
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think it's sad that there are fun messags hiding all over the game that nobody other than the writer ever knows about unless they tell someone to go look at it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: example?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wish for wishes :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is from astral area
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how specific of an example do you want?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you can wish also for other thing there
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: Graffiti?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, the only secret graffitis I know about are in Mallic's chamber and the void
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, when you're high enough - get a wish from one of mobs in astral and then go to genie
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and that's not really fair because you can't really access either of them
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is one secret graffiti located in gauntlet priest room (that one that teleports you to gauntlet maze)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: Does Aard still have the limbo room from ROM?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wouldn't object if that entire area was nuked from orbit, Trachx
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Quepasa: not for a long time
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, Gauntlet should be more like 201 quest/cp area, not 5-30
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Quepasa: I mean, it's still there, but you don't go there now
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have scry you can 'c scry 7.puff' and see it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it has one of the two secret graffiti I know
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and I only know the other one because I added it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can also add one in that forgotten room in Times Past
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but anyway I wasn't talking about graffiti
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, like...to give one example... on Onexia Prime in Vidblain there's one.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I went to Onexia, l cook shows Won in a game of intelligence, a large cookie especially for you is here.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you carrying a cookie?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've realized that after visiting more Onexia rooms :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ehehe
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but at least "nose" is real Onexia keyword (btw I like when keywords are colored in room description)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: very few of the keywords are colored 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The proper term is 'keyword american', you racist pig
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: vidblain is filled with keywords though. so is the area around the devil's hand
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: colorful keyword are mostly in newer areas, that causes explorers to become a bit lazy, but also is good explanation for builder's laziness - some descriptions suggests you can look <every item there>,  but actually most of them are just simple description (so when it is written in color - that is pretty obvious you can expect there is more behind that word and you can just skip all other words)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean skip as you should not expect that is object you can look/examine/do special action
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: highlighting keywords means people don't read any of the other words
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think is what you said
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: people read words?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: kind of, you still read description to get context
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when I see description (entry room Afterglow): Large trees rise almost as high as the mansion. - then I expect I can "look trees" and "look mansion", but 'l mansion' You don't see that here.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: obviously because it is not "here" but "there"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ehe
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but Afterglow is actually disaster, next room has: The floor is constructed of large marble tiles.  
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then I do "look marble" , and of course "You don't see that here."
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however I liked that in this area archery was used against players
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's colorized but not a keyword? hehe
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, so it attracts attention, and after few rooms it is just annoying
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if I ever did that
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I find that if Iwonder if I did something,I did
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I usually get that when looking over my old code. "Who wrote this shit? I'd never code something like THAT. Oh wait, this is my code."
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, the only colorized keywords I ever added have descriptions 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dunpeal snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but almost none have color
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: WHo wrote this piece.. oh wait.. that was me...
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: I write code for micro service based architectures.. but not much mud stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I reached age that I have opposite :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: mainly spring, boot, cloud, data stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I look at code and think how smart it was, and next time I write something I add comments so I be able to understand that in future :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Interesting, I only code interface stuff for large scale systems. Together we could take over the world. 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: What willwe do tonight, Brain?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have the opposite realizatoins
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I go back and look at things I know I did and surprise myself with how clever I was
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like  'look vomit' -> You do realize, of course, that you just tried to examine vomit?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Fiendish, I amcertainly at that point. Things I published before the www are now being cited and referenced. it is wierd.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i wrote some stuff and am embarrassed to show it to my computer-knowing-buddies
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Fiendish, I amcertainly at that point. Things I published before the www are now being cited and referenced. it is wierd.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Interesting, I only code interface stuff for large scale systems. Together we could take over the world. 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems like matrix error :P deja vu
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: it seems like matrix error :P deja vu
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: So did you find the hidden message on Onexia?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: In regards to Mushclient, in the Alias editor what is the purpose of sequence?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you want to fire multiple aliases on a match
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it denotes the order
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: GabeLogan: lower sequence fires before higher sequence
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lower is sooner
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: ugh...geez I knew that :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You might, for example, want one to fire and then SOMETIMES stop anything else from firing after it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so that you can have multiple triggers fire of one event in a specific sequence
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I believe you have to tick the continue evaluating checkbox on the first and subsequent aliases if you want it to keep going
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I mostly use sequence for triggers and not aliases
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: plugins also have a sequence field
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you can indicate precedence between plugins and the main world set of scripts
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: negative plugin sequence fires before the world, positive fires after
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Awesome info guys!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the range is -10000 to 10000 for plugins. for individual aliases and triggers I don't remember
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Are there any known differences in behavior running mush in wine and running it natively?  Sometimes I see my plugin's init code running twice at startup on native mush but I never see that when I'm in wine.  It's probably something silly I did, but I'd like to rule out the obvious before I dig into it.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it's hard to imagine actually needing that kind of range
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Last question from me for the day I swear! What is the purpose of Send to World? I always choose execute.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: do you have an example of such sequence triggers? 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i can't picture where to use such.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: the only issues I can think of are crashes in the mushclient notepad during certain operations
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Execute will give other plugins/aliases a chance to match it.  World bypasses that all and just sends directly to the MUD.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I use them for some common messages
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like when I get a level/pup
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I may have two different groups of functions (essentially plugins) doing completely different things off of that message
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Ah, that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks, that's what I thought but it's good to get confirmation
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so rather than having two independent plugins have to "know" about each other and have one kick off the other, it's easier to have them match in sequence
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I always run in Wine
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Alight, guys you can take the rest of the day off. Go home to your families.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my experience is that it works just about identically, module bugs in wine
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: modulo
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ah. i see. thanks 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan wiggles his bottom.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, wine always works great for me.  It's only when I test my plugin natively that I see intermittent issues.  :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, when losers like me try to use your plugin :'(
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wine does have a few funny differences at the system interface level, because the wine developers don't want to make, for instance, a different version of certain shell functions for each version of emulated windows
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and different versions of, for instance, the COPY function might print slightly different messages
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I suspect it's just a timing bug in my code somewhere and running natively in a VM hits things at different times than I normally see them
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and WineHQ will say something like "The COPY function returns a value on success or failure. Don't read the text it prints."
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you decipher panel?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's morse. start with -
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: greetings
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pretty smart message
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how many people figured out that it was morse ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no way to know
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how many people saw that it was there?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no way to know
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably one!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Vidblain is just too big
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's what she said
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's only 900 rooms
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know because I edited them all
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's a giant square. It's the easiest area in the game to explore fully.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I remember exploring those big maps just by run 50e, n, run 50w , or something like that
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, just don't do that at a low level
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Xeno put a huge amount of thought and planning into vidblain
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it was meant to be the area that any VI player could navigate 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH: l ruins:   The ruins are in ruin.  Well, what did you expect?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so why bother to search for extra keywords with such approach :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: come on. that was funny
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pretty smart
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then you expect there are more keywords
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want more, go to the Amazonian Battle Frigate
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or the hole in the ground
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or Pirates!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or two of the corners of the Sea of Glass
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or A Split in the Path
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 50 women cheering 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I see you found the mud wrestling room
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also a silver beard prisoner
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: who, Jeronius?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: he just lives there
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Hashmarks line the walls of the hole, so obviously it is a cell
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: he doesn't have much else to do out there
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a bit of a wasteland
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: he made a pretty sign to mark his little home
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now, there should be "knock" action in that room
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think I had the ability to do that 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Tester F13-ND.  Grade: A      
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ah, the old rubber tree
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I love to rubber tree
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think numbers kill this game
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which numbers
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I disagree, it is a hack and slash game
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i/m/p, #pups, #qps
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah, 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some of us have known for years that tiers are ruining the mud
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: tiers do ruin the mud
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: unfortunately I keep ruining my tiers, which limits my ability to ruin the mud very effectively :(
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nah, people ruin the mud. I've seen tier 3 people asking questions that make me wonder if they bought their character on ebay.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: They are stealing our jobs!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is pretty easy get to higher tier without any deeper thoughts :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I did not buy my character on ebay tyvm, I hired a chinese gaming workshop to level it up from 1 fair and square
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I ask those questions all the time that make me look bad and I am a T2.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No no, I mean the equivalent of "how do i shot web"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: why is I no good at game?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I T4, but no good
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not really possible to be not good at aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: this is true
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you either spend your time questing and killing things or you don't
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you spend your time questing and killing things you get stronger and farther
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: maybe you could be not good if you didn't do anything?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you spend your time talking, answering questions, and programming things that aren't bots, then you don't get stronger and farther
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but I help people!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Running ones mouth is a good way to get stronger, you tend to accumulate a LOT of qp doing it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I know I do
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wasn't that Visionaire's trick?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan smirks at his own 'wisdom'.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think programming things that aren't bots can make you stronger
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like one key campaigner
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I agreeth!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I only program things that help me do things more efficiently
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or get better metrics to make better decisions
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or keep myself organized
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: because if I get good at writing things that aren't bots, I can then write even better things that aren't bots
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just like programming things to solve problems that bug me.  That's really satisfying :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I do it for the colors
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and numbers in colors
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I like numbers in colors
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: trachx likes words in colors
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is called synesthesia
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you could get together
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's how I got into it.  That stupid window jumping off the screen, that bug persisted for *years* and nobody bothered to do anything about it :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hot hot hot!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that's beause usually you accept things that are good enough
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's what I did in regards to auto noexp
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i aliased tech to curse too
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it should be fun times
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dunpeal snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: What are they now?  My old prompt had a lot of colors and whatnot in it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: bah, chan off :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the biggest source of bugs in all code is that the one writing it doesn't usually think of everything that needs to be handled
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I thought it was because of outsourcing to india
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nobody outsources real work to india. maybe wasteland web stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've never had a job where I was worried that my company was going to replace me with cheaper labor on the other side of the planet
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: same fiend
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but that's because you're a lumberjack and they can't outsource trees
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, that's when you move to the other side of the planet. *shifty*
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah well
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I also try to have as few working years as possible
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: fiendish what do ya do man?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dunpeal: mostly what I do is quit my job after 2 years and then travel for 2 years
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm thats pretty cool
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: so you're a gypsy
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: my dream job would be trading options for a living
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's racist
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Professional quit-traveler.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A nomad?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no, it is not
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: but not sure if that could ever happen
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: When I was a child my dream job was to be a professional mattress tester.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: when i was a child, i had no dreams about any jobs
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and I have on dreams
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I now do the next best thing which is algorithmic R&D, frequently for robotics
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: with "now" meaning about 2 years ago
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And you travel a lot? Are you sure you're not Miles Bennett Dyson, trying to avoid Sarah Connor?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is why it's about time to look for a job again
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I will interview you and perhaps offer you an internship
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i've been thinking the same thing
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: past few months I've been occupied writing some painful code for Software Heriage
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Heritage
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://forge.softwareheritage.org/D256
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: what job this Pleiades could possibly have for you?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pleiades: can I do it from philly?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: once "be yourself" is the job description, would you take it? minimum wage
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: be myself for minimum wage? sure. I do that already for free
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: might as well get paid for it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: and then they will have a meeting asking you to "be more"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Sorry! It is me again....how doI check my currect version again??
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Bananasinpajamas
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Thank You F
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is anyone here using comcast for voice and data and if so, what modem do you have
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: With comcast, you'd probably do better with smoke signals than an actual modem
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or pigeons
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Comcast was always good to me. :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're lucky - I couldn't wait to move back into a Cox region.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Their customer service is severely lacking, but the service itself was good enough for me, plus uncapped data meant I could download a terabyte of data without worry.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then again, they were on my bad side when I got it installed because they dug up a yard without my permission and ruined the grass there, so they could have been giving me a break.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: "a yard" not "my yard"?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, I guess you could say it was my yard. :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Because of the milkshakes?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Place was huge, had to use about 700 feet of hose just to water the entire lawn on one side, in sections.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The more you talk about your lawn, the more you sound like some old guy who stands on the porch glaring at kids who might cut across a portion of it..
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ha, that'd be the guy who owned the property. I was there to keep it safe.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Look up 2397 N 10th Ave, Hanford, CA on Google Maps, satellite on. That was my place 5 years ago.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: were you employed as an overseer there?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: He's the caretaker. He's ALWAYS been the caretaker.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I've just started the new version of MUSHclient, 5.06.  I have no completed maps.  How do I import all my maps from version 4.96?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you install over your old directory?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: No, I installed the new version in a new directory.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Copy over *.db and Aardwolf.mcl (with Mushclient closed)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Ok, I copied over .db files.  Now my map window is stuck on "The Dark Continent, Abend" and it won't change regardless of where I run.  Any hints?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Okay, so I just restarted MUSHclient, and now the mapper just says it's version 2.5 by Fiendish, and it doesn't respond at all.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Frankly, I'd just copy a backup of your old mushclient install, then runt he installer over that
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thats what i usually do it works fine
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: but don't forget the back up :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I'll give that a try.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is it possible to incorporate lua functions/script commands in cexits?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: The only script capable of being put into cexits is wait(). I think you'd have to add other scripts to the plugin itself if you wanted to do that.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: In any case, you'd have to modify the mapper plugin to allow for that functionality.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: gee, i've never modified the mapper plugin before ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I use lua code in cexits.  The cexit just needs to call an alias and then the alias dives down into your lua code.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's a little indirect, but it does work
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, roundabout ways, sure.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: interesting, I'll look into that for sure.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, no argument there :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But directly, you couldn't do function();go here, as far as I know.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's correct
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You only get one shot at an alias from a cexit though.  It's different than "mapper portal ..."
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: with the portal code you could use multiple aliases and they would be expanded and run
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: but with cexits it will only recognize one alias even if you string several together with semi-colons
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Makes me wonder if that alias has to be first, then.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yes, it must be first
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: programatically speaking, a cexit and a portal are the same.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Thought so.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Scriptually, they aren't.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: well, if your portal/cexit is represented by an alias, the mapper (cmud/mush) won't know the difference
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Except the way cexits are executed, it will only fire an alias if it's listed first.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: in the speedwalk, the alias for the cexit/portal is inserted, isn't that the case?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's correct.  I found that out because I wanted a cexit that did something like: getItemFromBag; doSomething; putItemAway
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A cexit has to always go to the same destination, is there a reason to have a cexit with a function call in it?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It wouldn't recognize any alias other than the first one
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: maybe that's  a quirk in the mush mapper, cmud you can do anything you want in the alias.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, yes, I was referring to a mush client-side alias
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I'eve put a #NOOP to get around the labyrinth entry procedure and it worked.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I imagine that in mush you would just put an alias with a return statement in it.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: anyway, I know very little about the mush mapper.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: An concrete example of why you might want to do this might help :)  At Giant's Pet Store, you can get an employee ID card that is necessary to access certain rooms.  It isn't a key though and it is saveable so once you get one you don't need to do the work to get another one (which involves killing a mob so it can't be scripted.)  A cexit might pull out the employee card at an appropriate time and then put it away when you are done.  I don't like hardcoding object IDs in a cexit because that's a massive pain if you ever lose the item so I do it programatically.  That's why this came up :) 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Will it go on your keyring?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hence the use of an expanded alias --> lua in a cexit
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, it won't go on the keyring because it isn't a key
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: There is a similar item (a pass) in Kobolos (sp?) too if I remember correctly
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Doing the goal in both cases alleviates that need. *shifty*
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Where's the fun in that? :P  You could spend a few days solving it via code! :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Hmm, will need to look at why xrunto darklight always glitches out and lands at the wrong spot.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: it's afraid of the darkness?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does "unmerge continent bigmap from GMCP mapper" do?  I'm curious but afraid to try it.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Back up your aardmush directory and try it
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how are the installers for the latest aardmush snapshot?  Supposedly they are better than before?  But if installing 'on top' of one's current mush setup, if that version is 4.98 and the installer wants to install 5.06, could that be a problem?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Back up your mush folder and try it. Seriously, backing up is as simple as copy -> paste
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I know :p
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling fluffles Birdbrain Metria's fur mercilessly.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Non-Sense Anaristos gives Birdbrain Metria the cold shoulder as he abandons Aardwolf for that graphic junk they call WoW!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Non-Sense Anaristos waves goodbye to Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do I restart firefox without losing tabs?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i wish they would just fix this stupid 'slow down and die' crap that Firefox has been doing for *years*
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: there should be a bookmark setting that says save al tabs to bookmark or something like that
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: use the edge browser
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: eh, just want to hit restart and have them up
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You wonder why Non-Sense Anaristos slammed A Nimwit Pleiades's head with a mallet.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that's a microsoft product!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: edge is the worst
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: can't do starling, if you restart it means the browser shuts down first.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not even doing anything, a few youtube windows (these are apparently the cause of the slowdown) and yes I have 87 tabs up but I run noscript, ghostery, and I have 16gb ram on this computer so why should this silly browser fall over and die like this? :P
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: save the tabs to bookmark, it puts it in a new folder then restore the tabs when you come back.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: an excellent idea, assuming Firefox were still responding.  Eh, well.  It kind of is.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is Edge actually good?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I figured it'd be the new IE.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it's ok
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: some stuff doesnt work in edge, so it opens an IE window
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: too much advertising
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starling: in FF options, on the "what to do hwen FF starts", restore tabs from last session is an option
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thanks, Abe!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will make the default behavior what you want, rather than specifically saving bookmarks
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I assume abelinc uses firefox
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oddly, I don't run adblock.  I do run ublock origin and it seems to work.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or lync?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: well, I don't use firefox, i was guessing from what I know of google :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: abelinc wrote his own browser on a 128 bit SunOS employing 4096 parallel CPU's.  I have proof.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I stopped using firefox when it kept changing my search engine.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I really think he uses lync
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: links > lync
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: eh, that was probably the pr0n sites changing your search page ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: no, firefox wanted the search engines in a specific order.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: tehre was a big blowback about 4 or 5 years ago, everyone was complaininga about something, so I never load the browser anymore.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I am not crazy about google either :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: might start using opera again.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is anaristos abelinc?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: take that back!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Non-Sense Anaristos smiles at you. 
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on Windows computers, I have Chrome, FF and MSIE all installed, but do most of my browsing in Chrome...I have 2 versions of it...v44 and current
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: seriously, if I were anaristos i'd freeze someone for asking such a question ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: come look at the sparc 1000 in my basement
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: ditto
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: v44 is just before the forced the turn off of npapi
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I also use the Tor browser :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it'll still work with those plugins (like java)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or is abelinc anaristos
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, yeah I've got that too
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tor is just FF, btw
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: you had to ruin it for me :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather, it's built on FF
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: oh, I can live with that :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: so you are saying it's written in java.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use the portable version of tor...it won't actually open if FF is open first, although I can open FF afterwards
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, actually it looks like they fixed that...it's letting me open it with FF open now
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: firefox actually started to be a good browser with all those plugins you could add, then oracle got in the picture somewhere.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it used to just complain that FF was already running
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: maybe it thouht ff was a security breech :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you are a security breach
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Non-Sense Anaristos slaps A Nimwit Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it's just because it's the FF browser plus tor add-ons
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tor 7.0.7 release notes...Update Firefox to 52.4.1esr
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: looking for the option you mentioned abe, and I don't see it
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: oh, I was going to check the ff version I had. I have no version :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: tools > options, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup...then "when firefox starts" drop-down
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 3 options should be "show blank page", "show home page", and "show your windows and tabs from last time"
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, it's greyed out
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's annoying
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I told you to save the bookmarks :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc giggles at Non-Sense Anaristos.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: heh :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Non-Sense Anaristos SMACKS A Nimwit Pleiades upside the head, wonder what he did.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: mis :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Abelinc, do you have your own irc channel?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I never got really heavy into irc, just used it to get support for some more obscure stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: like weird japanese roping techniques?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, sure?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I dont know!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I dont do anything that's NSFW
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean you don't do anything that's SFW :P
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: oh no
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's safe for you to fap in your cubicle :P
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I would ot do that
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I dont have a cubicle
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: he works off the broom closet.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I sit in the parking lot
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I believe you have my stapler
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I sit in the parking lot
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I am not allowed in the building
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: anyone playing on a galaxy s8+? Having issues with the onscreen buttons randomly changing positions
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as long as they don't randomly catch fire
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (those two statements are not related to each other)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan burps loudly.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: does anyone here have a phone with Bixby? I just updated it and now it's randomly adjusting brightness for no reason. Super slowly too. I can swipe down the notification bar and see it moving a tick every two seconds. It's Bixby is a butlers soul screaming, "FREE ME..."
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You probably have autobrightness set.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I do. But it will go from my brightness setting to supermax brightnesz
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: basically the outdoor setting you typically have to set yourself.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's odd.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: then it will decrease to minimum slowly
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone here know how to expose matlab functions into programs?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades prods you into action!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Abe, you know how to expose matlab functions into programs?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What's a good brand for gaming laptops? The best bang for the buck
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you want best bang for your buck, you don't want a laptop for gaming
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Shotguns give the best bang for a buck.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I want it to be laptops
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Err laptop
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo snickers with Acidrayne Arcidayne about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: My wife's got a Dell which works fine for what games she plays. (Mainly Guild Wars 2)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: How much did she pay for that
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: She says "Um.. Almost $700"
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Whoa really
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: You know the specs?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not a clue. It'd all be different now anyway, she got that almost a year ago so that model's probably not even available anymore.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Probably an Inspiron
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i randomly bought a thing called 4560. later i read it was the bbb
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You wanna look for something with a discrete graphics card, no Intel onboard graphics. Lots of RAM. If you can get it, get a SSD and HD in the same machine.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah those are my main targets
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Some laptops come with 16gb ram, gtx 950-1070
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah I wouldn't get less than 16
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Whoa Celebrity
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: That IS the bbb
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Not ssd tho
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: -j 10
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo turns out to be a lemming and 8fails himself. Loser.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: bftb
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What do you play on it
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you know. its so hard to think and type the same time while drinking
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: borderlands
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No issues?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: bl2 is so old. no issues. all max
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You could run borderlands on a toaster these days
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Ever tried some aaa games?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: ... Ok, what's aaa? I'm guessing one of those a's is "anal" but I can't figure it out
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: fifa 17 runs smoothly at 1080
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: You know those smaller batteries
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh riiiight
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: It's not those
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: can i ask about non-aardwolf related but script/technology related things in here?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anything tech is fair game - just ask though is usually bettert.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: cool! i need something like a tracker for my non-aardwolf guild. we have a guild raid every weekend and i will ends up having a list of points scored by every guild member, i want to have a tracker to gauge the activeness of every member weekly
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i do have a Microsoft Excel to do that, but just thinking if there's anything more useful that you guys have :P
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: can colourcodes look like  0x800 ? I know it's not RGB. WindowRectOp (win, 5, 30, 30, 70, 70, 5, 15 + 0x800)
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: 0x0800 - Fill in the middle
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: is there a way to ident mob keywords?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: try id and look at tbe top
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: oh idk
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type con all
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: trial and error mostly and then you have to remember what might have worked. for example in wooble anything with sea doesn't have sea in hte key work, so sea snakes are just snakes
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Enei is agreeing with that Sheriff Shindo person again...
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: hi, i have win 10, using r1900 and trying to install r1940 ad I get a message saying error opening diva.fon for writing, any idesa?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it might be locked by something
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: did you try a restart and just immediately starting/updating mush?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: okay will try that
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sometimes that's the only trick for windows :/
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: worked thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay can I get some mapper help? I accidentally renamed my aardwolf.db file the other day, and ended up with an Aardwolf.db, and the one I renamed. After deleting the Aardwolf.db and reverting the rename, I have all kinds of issues with running to areas, and mapping clan exits. Any advice?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: there is a restore from backup option but you will need to catch fiendish for help with that
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Are backups automatic?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i can't remember
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Uh oh.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but what do you mean by "issues"
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Mapper can't find certain rooms when I try to "Mapper goto (number)"
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: backups ARE automatic...when you are moving and renaming files, make sure that MUSHclient is NOT open...database files don't like being mucked with when they're open in a program...
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to restore from backups, just go into the backups folder, copy/move the backup file you want into the root of the MUSHclient folder, and rename it to aardwolf.db (more specifically, rename it to <worldname>.db)
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neklude Tech: is there any ability to change ctrl to alt with keypad in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neklude: check out http://abelinc.me/macros...you want the section on Accelerators, as those allow you to use any available key combination...HOWEVER, note that alt+0-9 are already in use for bringing up the various parts of MUSHclient configuration
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that being said, I just tested and it appears that the keypad numbers do not activate those menu options, so you should be able to use it in an accelerator
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: My poor dad.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Got one of those, "Answer these questions to win a $100 gift card to the store of your choice!" things on his phone. Like a fool, he filled it out, and started answering survey questions.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ard Tiarna Grimvald begins to shake his head and tsk into nothingness.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And did it again. And again. Now he's getting spam email and phone calls saying, "I heard you like us, want to try this? Answer these questions and sell us your soul!"
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: any porn links? lol
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Nope, all pharmaceutics, or tools.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: let that be a lesson to everyone. Don't. Click. That. Link.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I've had the conversation over and over with my Dad too.  The reponse is always "But it says it's from [some company] and that company is trustworthy!"
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne grins evilly at Durel.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: any blowtorch users here now please?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: who is building the tintin++ client?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Looking at this. Any thoughts, anyone? https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADEU6EH9151&ignorebbr=1
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: For me? You shouldn't have.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: (I'll take 3)
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: it's the Canadian website so you should close the window
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo slaps Spookiest Raded.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I'm looking for a gaming laptop, but I'm not rich, so looking for an affordable one
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Excited to mud on it!
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Any thoughts on that one?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: What do you plan to use it for? besides aard
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Programming/gaming
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: spec wise it'll probably do most of what you want. However, the latest gen intels are coming out right now.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: so you may be best of waiting a bit
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What does that mean? If they're spanking new, I won't be able to afford them
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Does that mean that these 7700's prices will go down?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: Probably not. Gamging laptop rarely drop off in price anymore before they're EOL.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: if they do its like 10% at best
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: So if I have no plan on buying the new ones coming out, this is a good buy?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: it will certainly work, that's for sure.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Not too sure if the price for these specs are a catch
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: probably be a good space heater too
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: Its pretty much on par. You might find something similar for a hundred or two less if you want to put alot of leg work into it
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: This is probably it
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: what is that big thing on the right side of the first picture?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: A cooling pad, I think
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: I plan on grabbing this as soon as it hits the market https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/NH.Q2YAA.004
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: Intels latest Gen CPU, however it's not an HQ so it won't be that powerful but it'll also do alot better on battery life. It's kinda of a weird blend between gamging and a sensible laptop.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: It's not out yet?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: that model? No. Intels released their latest gen CPU to manufacturers a while ago but there's almost nothing on the market with them yet. Infact I think there is literally 1 or 2 models at the moment.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Then why do they have it showcased on their website
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: I guess to just drum up interest. They should also be available in about 2 weeks.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's a nice laptop, maybe I'll go for that this christmas
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Which one
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the acer
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaz Tech: when would output get stacked aside a prompt like " [Fighting: 298/307hp 142/294mn 638/638mv 775tnl Enemy: 63% ]> Your lashing INCINERATES a cobia! [53"
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaz Tech: would it be because the standard begining prompt does not have %c on the end of it?
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: in mushcleint how do you get the ticktimer in the bottom left screen corner to come on?
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: afaik it should always be on
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: new install of mushcleint from the fiendish site and it isn't so i either magically turned it off or something
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: i lost it on my laptop mush client, same problem
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: oh hell, I'd really like to be able to put a movement cost on a cexit.
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Is there a plugin that tracks how much xp/qp you gain in a day? I know you can create a group every time you log in to see the total xp/kills, but I mean one that does this for each real life day - as in midnight to midnight.
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: you can get a plugin that does
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Do you know from where?
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: sharptracker prolly does
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its very simple to cook such thing using only a few triggers and variable
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Simple? Maybe if you understand scripting, but I'm a beginner with it. I was proud when I could make my own eq set commands, I have no clue how to make a window that displays the counters I want, heh.
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: not much scripting. just make the variables you need, see what triggers would you need to change your variables. this kind of thing would help you a lot with all kinds of stuff. 
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its a bit tricky to get the variables to work. but i promise, it's not hard at all.
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Something in my Aard client is freezing in Wine, so I got a brand new download. Aside from copying the aardwolf.db file into the new location, what should be done to get back to normal?
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: aardwolf.mcl has all your aliases and triggers and settings, probably want that
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Thanks! Some plugins weren't working.
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: can i ask a questoin about an xboxk game on here? it is a technical question...
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: you can fiddle with the .mcl directly to turn plugins on or off
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: remember that the command should be wine mushclient.exe /wine
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: is there a plugin or setting to have mush clear its input bar?  (mainly after window switching or after inactivity)? 
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: OK Google, scare me!  loads of laughs
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Anyone here use tt++ with tmux?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: my god, firefox used to be so good, but now it's just slow, laggy, and dies as soon as you watch anything on youtube
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: For heaven's sake, I have 16gb ram on this computer, what the hell is wrong with the stupid program?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what a damned shame, seriously
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: get your fricking crap together, mozilla :/
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: god, I had to reboot the whole bloody computer to make Firefail work again
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: Sorry to hear that. I'll make sure it never happens again :)
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyxl Tech: question guys, if I have an alias in a plugin that used to work fine and suddenly doesn't anymore and it's not related to the script it refers to... what to do?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i turn off the exchpo oif every command i input?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: client or server side?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khelthina Tech: guys
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khelthina Tech: i need help
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bodhi perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: With what?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khelthina Tech: im using mudrammer client on ios. can you teach me how to use this
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What do you want to achieve?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khelthina Tech: i dont know how to use lua or java script. i prefer simple controls on blowtorch on android apk. can tou teach me ?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What exactly do you want to do with it?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: what is the command to reset your windows?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi hi. i am using blowtorch. how do i achor a trigger to the beginning of a line please? 
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: Step 1: uninstall Blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bodhi grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: wtf even is blowtorch?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: I knew you would be so kind to replace my phone with a computer. thank you Bodhi lol
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: I know phones can use it, but not sure if it's strictly for phones.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it was. its not something that is
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: I've never used Blowtorch, so I don't know how to set up triggers for it.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Probably the same way you anchor triggers everywhere else, with an ^.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But if you have a computer, you're usually better off just using remote control to access your computer on the road.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i know how to set the trigger Bodhi. but i need it only to trigger when it needs to. not when i use the words in a conversation 
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: use a more specific trigger line?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thank you Arcidayne. will try that one
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Or try like I said. Or don't. Not my problem, just a suggestion.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thanks a million Arcidayne. now there is no more spam 
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Atomic!!!  Bodhi cheers her on.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: need a bigger keyboard while drunk
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: fat fingers
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: anybody able to tell me how to get a string in excel for this formula ?    =(SUM(B10:B28))+"/"+9-((SUM(B10:B28)))      should display 5/4  for example
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Norton is online!
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: shhhhh. don't scare everybody ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Could you just not use formating to get the 5/4
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i dont know how to create the SUM(B10:B28) to create a string    then concat /    then concat 9 minus the original sum
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Category and Fractions show fractions.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ok. i'll investigate that
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i would suggest put first value in one field, and the 2nd value in another field, then put the concatenated in the field you want?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think Google Sheets does it too.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: and make the color of the 1st 2 fields so that they do not appear.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: =(SUM(B10:B28))&"/"&(9-((SUM(B10:B28))))
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ah! & not +
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: the '+' is to sum numbers, to concatenate string use '&'
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have to make a group of inter-working spreadsheet for data analysis using Google Sheets. That is going to be fun.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i knew somebody would know. thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: my pleasure
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That Kit Carson fellow is smarter than Abelinc!
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, headphone jack on my laptop is bad, time to get a new computer
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: ERROR 37
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: 2 questioms... ! i cant download on this computer. and i cant go to any gaming sites...and many social sites are blocked (strangely i can use spotify but not pandora) is there a good "streaming" client i can use. the one i found is very basic thnx and 2. i cant have a smart phone. any one know of a good "dumb phone" with no camera i can get (and where) maybe one where i can mud
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: How do you get triggers to work in Mushclient? I have this text in the trigger field: "Linanthria tells you 'As a reward, I am giving you * quest points and * gold.", yet it doesn't trigger on the quest reward message. It's enabled, too.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: edit the trigger and press the button to convert it to a regular expression, works fine on my client
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: It's weird, because if I change the wildcards to numbers, it matches. It's like it doesn't read * as a wildcard?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: no star cards for you! 
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Make sure the regex button isnt still checked if not using regex and vice versa
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: if it still doesn't work, press copy button and paste into pastebin and give us the link.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: saudia arabia just granted a female robot citizenship.... ooohhhhhhh awesome
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: well add that to the list of things that I never thought I'd hear.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: right!!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Do female humans have citizenship? I know they recently were allowed to drive!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Merelii,  "Son, I am proud of you." Add to the list of things you thought you'd never hear =]
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: um not to much i think.. it was shown with out headgear females have to wear....
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if I have a tablename in Lua named hello = {}, should I be able to essentially copy it to a name table by doing newTable = hello ?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am doing that but I get an error when looping through it: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got nil)
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can use newTable = hello if hello is defined.  You can't loop through an empty table though -- there's nothing to loop through.  What are you sending to ipairs?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Also, keep in mind that if you do newTable = hello that newTable and hello will both point to the same underlying data.  Updating one table will also update the other one too.  It isn't a copy.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am keeping a previous and a current table. sometimes copying the current to previous. I do have a statement that says if current == nil then curent = {} end, then i do some ipair loops
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: but thank you. what you said helped. I had to first define the name as a table and couldn't just define it at the same time as making it equal a table
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: does abelinc fix keyboards?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Perhaps
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: math teaches dont spits
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: spit*
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: the keycap for the letter "t" on my Macbook Air is loose
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: needs a spit
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: hello!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I was told it will help me complete campaigns quicker. I have downloaded the package but no instructions on how to install.ny pointers or resources where can I find that info?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: Search and destrot plugin 
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: shift+ctr+p to bring up the plugin dialog
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if i recall correctly, once installed, the commands to bring up the help files are: ww help and extender help
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am assuming you are using MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: I think he needs to know how to install the plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yes!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yes, ctrl+shift+k
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: eek, no that will disconnect you. ctrl+shift+p
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Venkav ) thanks was about to hit that 
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I selected the first fiel I will go ahead and enable all xmls.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you need to start with the "add" button
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I see one window for Search and destroy GUI, I think that's it. Correct?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I think there are three. do you see (3) files that start with winklewinkle?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: you have to install each of the 3 files
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: in upper left corner clk on file/plugins/add
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the gui is the only optional one. it adds a mini window, which you can hide, i think. but i dont use the plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I tried a quest now. it says mapper goto a number, and the message I get is you can't do that
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: and then add each of teh winkle files just like you add an aatchment to an email
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: try seeing mapper help
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: do you have the extender and searchanddestroy xmls installed?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yes all 3 installed
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: and of course you have to explore the areas first before you can use fun things like s & d
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: ah :)
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: how do I get the mapper window up?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: for some reason after installing S&D cp check is not listing my mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: do I have to reconnect?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: let me try that
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chich Tech: did you try cp i?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I am lost, not what did I do wrong
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone here using a screen reader?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Yep. What's up?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I just want to make sure that my website is accessible. Since I updated it, I've somehow lost the ability to run NVDA in Wine
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: er, not nvda
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sapi
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Checking now!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it should have a section called "important details" describing two download links, and then of course two download links
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: The site is all good. I can see all of that stuff. :)
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Any time!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: somhow i changed my typing bar to bould how do i change it back
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Game->Configure->Commands->Change Font
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: was looking in there and it wasnt on bold
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: it changed to size 9 not 8
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know what to tell you. That's where you control the input font.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: nono that was great it got me to look at all that again
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: just figured out that it was size 9 font not 8
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: is there a plugin for tick timer?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I am sorry is that the name of the plug in?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you mean a timer htat counts down every 30 seconds?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: why does alias on mushclient doesn't recognize mapper cexit function?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: send to execute ?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you have to change also change it from World to Execute.  Then in the Send section do Execute("mapper goto 19288")
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: well, I use Send To Script then Execute("mapper goto 19288")
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: actually I want to write mapper cexit open s
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: That is an interesting cexit but you would have better adding a direction after openning the door. Execute("mapper cexit open s;run s")
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yeah it didn't take "s" instrcution because of 
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yeah it didn't take "s" instrcution because of "
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I used Execute("mapper cexit open s
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: but it keeps saying unrecognized command
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when you do "send to execute" then you just type as you were typing
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: It would, there's a random quote in it and shouldn't be. That isn't going to work. Send this to execute. mapper cexit open s;s
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so just set "send to execute", then an alias body to mapper cexit open e;e
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe need double ;; in that alias
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I think I am missing a key here
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: what do you mean set send to execute
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: I have double semis in mine.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I was just setting an alias
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean mud-side alias? then it won't work as mapper is client-side part
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you mean client-side alias (ie Game --> Configure --> Aliases) then below alias body you have "Send to" combo-box
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I am setting a mushclient alias
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you need set that combo-box to "Execute"
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: to map a cexit with multiple steps commands in it put ; at the start of the line with cexit OR use ;; between commands in the cexit creation
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: bingo
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I think that was it
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I was missing the execute option in the combo box
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: thanks !!
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: something like https://imgur.com/a/B4sps   or  https://imgur.com/a/3W8lk
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: anybody have a 3d printer?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling peers around herself intently.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is it possible to tell mushclient to not store commands in history if they are too short, as cmud can do?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: e.g. don't store two-character or shorter commands in history
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I could have sworn I saw a setting for it in mush but can't remember where it (supposedly) was
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I've noticed that high disk i/o slows down aardmush, or at least, the mapper
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how to speed it up?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: S&D for vi players has been on my mind
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: From the poll I understand that the tick-timer plugin is missing from newer versions of mushclient? And is that the one that's showing 'time to tick: xx' in the status bar?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: people do a new install instead of installing on top of their previous install and find that it has gone missing
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Fiendish: is there any context to the vote? (considering the 3rd option). I mean is it just a 'useful/junk' pool, or did it (the plugin) raise some issues in the client?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no context. just express your sentiment.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: done :)
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Is there a plugin available for Mushclient that does something like this: http://endavis.github.io/bastproxy/plugins/aardwolf/statmn.html (I just mean the counting of XP/QP/TP/Gold, and presenting it nicely like here?) 
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is Sharptracker I think. I just do not have a link.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a plugin that shows _only_ those things?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: I tried installing that, but all it did was mess up the lower section of my client by putting a bunch of random symbols where my quest/cp ticker usually is. I don't think that's how it's supposed to work?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is why I hate the status bar
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Fiendish - doesn't matter if it shows other useful info as well, but I'm specifically after the counters.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it seems like it makes sense until multiple things try to use it
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: I want to make myself a spreadsheet so that I can see how much XP/QP/TP/Gold I make each day, but then of course I need a way to know how much I have of each - and a way to reset it daily. (Can be with a manual command, doesn't have to be automatic).
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bast's statmonitor plugin is in his plugin package
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the documentation for it is here https://web.archive.org/web/20151219113048/https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/StatMonitor
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Thanks, Fiendish! I think this is going to do the trick. Perfect!
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Any idea why statmn just says No Data, instead of counting things?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: quit and log back in?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Hi guys! For some reason, I am experiencing lag when I use the Aard client+S&D. I am experiencing no lag with anything else on my network. If I log onto Aard with just a pure version of Mush, I don't experience the lag. It happens most often when I use xrt, and also when I am in battle (not normal battle lag). Does anyone have any ideas? I can't pinpoint anything different that I did/installed, but this has been going on for a few weeks.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Don't use S&D
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda is agreeing with that Oak Tender Arnica person again...
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does it happen with the aard client without s&d?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: "Don't use S&D" says every person who uses S&D.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Not actually sure about that, let me test.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't use it. Can I say it?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think a click interface to lasertag would be cool
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, I'm using it and think it's very nicely done. I'm not into the 'click&kill' business, too hung up on the keyboard, but I like hunt trick automation, quick where, autohunt, xrt to area (some of the features mentioned are actually the xmapper plugin, but whatever).
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MeadowMare Kya nods at Libel Liber.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I usually note slowness when there is disk i/o due to some other program hogging it up
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and yes, sometimes the client does freeze up for a while, but that passes quickly
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kya: lag without s&d in aard client?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (not sure how much work is involved in testing this)
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Still present. Most of the time it's fine, but about 1/5 of the commands that I send are lagged by approximately 0.5-0.75 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not sure why S&D would cause 'lag' (what kind of lag?  can you describe it?) other than perhaps running mapper searches and building speedwalks back to back, but a lot of the plugins are still goofy winkle code and have not yet been replaced by non-goofy starling code.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Yeah, it wasn't S&D, the only reason I mentioned it was because it is something I have extra to the default Aard client install.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: althoug tbh given what S&D does, I doubt if a couple seconds of lag will ruin the experience, anyway
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Bast's plugins can slow things down a bit too, I think.  Or so I've heard.  I haven't actually gotten around to trying them, and I probably should
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kya: there's a long delay? You said you use a screen reader, is it reading slowly or normal speed just after a pause?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, vi opinions/suggestions welcome too
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Normally, Fiendish. Woops, I completely forgot I even had Bast's plugins, I just removed them to see if it helps. The lag is indeed fairly minimal, I just don't like it if it's avoidable as I enjoyed the lagless experience much more. :P
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: S&D definitely interacts with the mapper db directly in some ways though, it doesn't only go via the GMCP mapper
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: given some of the winkle lua i've had to deal with, it would surprise me a lot if his sql were any different :P
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so, like, the amount of delay that you're describing is pretty extreme. If you have time later I'd like to do some experiments to see if we can pin down the cause. I don't have enough time right now though
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: take over his bot, enhance his bot, make a name for yourself on the back of his work, then criticize his code, classy.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: how do I enable portal with S&D xrt?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you dont. You enable it in mapper
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one day my legacy is going to be "man, Fiendish took 10 years just to add tabs to the communication log. what an idiot."
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type mapper help
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or mapper help portals
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: well hats off to you making your code open source, you obviously have a much higher tolerance for petty bs than I do.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: thanks reading it now
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: (which is why I never will)
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my trick is making the code complicated enough that nobody understands it enough to criticize
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I never figured it out so just use a portal set up with an alias or go home and rt next area
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: insult my code.. just don't insult me
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I havent yet seen the guide for dummies and grandma's
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "Man, look at all those chained functions together on one line. I bet that's not in any way a bad idea."
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique is patiently waiting
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: bah its fine.. its "fluent"
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: I pulled out all of Bast's plugins, and it's still there. I know your stuff is solid though Fiendish, so I have no clue what it could be. Really it's only headbangingly frustrating in global quests. I guess somehow it could be my computer hanging up somewhere...It is kinda old.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mique: Hosch's guide is the best
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: go to the portal destination room and type something like this (while in the destination room): mapper portal hold theportalyowanttoadd;;enter
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you can also add commands for getting the portal out of a bag, if that's how you keep them
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the command after 'mapper add' has to wear the portal and use it to get exactly to the room you are in when typing it
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: hosch not work, error 404 Die angegebene Seite konnte nicht gefunden werden.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mique: bummer. one sec
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i set up aliases for each of my portals as i collect them, then use those aliases to set the mapper portals
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: I used the following before I got protal wear location: mapper portal get portalID bagID;wear portalID;enter;rem portalID;put portalID bagID;wear all. Sometimes it will mess up if your inventory somehow goes amiss due to a disarm or something that you didn't notice, but it did the trick most of the time and allowed for me to just re-wield whatever weapon I had at the time.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it's been gone for a few months
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rip hosch I guess. https://web.archive.org/web/20150819093750/http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: and setting up portals with mapper I kept doing something wrong so it interfered with getting to my mob so removed theem all and just use alias for portals
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: this looks interesting.... https://mushclient.com/forum/?id=12926 for mapper explanations
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: Horsch's guide is awol
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: read the whole thread though. there are a few errors that I had to correct in it
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mique: I posted a link to an archive.org backup of hosch's guide
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thank goodness for preservationists
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone know how to resolve bluetooth connectivity issues with Windows 10?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: turn it off and then on again?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Done
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: bummer
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: how to recycle 10 year old tablet? or send it to Somalia?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it still looks brand new
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Looking to buy a new laptop, any suggestions?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What are you going to use it for?  Portability key?  Need more info :)  But I love mine: hp spectre 360
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mostlty to carry back and forth from work, using for work and personal, and is durable.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I love my HP.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Currently, I have an Asus that I have had for 4 years.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I have an HP stream and I like it
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: borrowed a hp, spent 4 hours to set it up for recording. blew up before 1 second before the 1st hit on the snare.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: it's smaller and thinner than a lot of the other laptops I've seen but I don't really have any complaints other than the fact that I bump the trackpad, but I use an external mouse anyway so it's no big deal.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i5 and i7
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would \n break print statements in triggers?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define break
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: to make not work
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a syntax for calling GMCP values from w/i MUSH and not a plugin?  I know how to watch onbroadcast but looking for something more simple
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could call it from the command line if that's what you are looking for.  For example:  \\\require "gmcphelper" require "tprint" tprint(gmcp("char.base"))
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aha, you gotta use require even in MUSH. ok got it thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: stand
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: miscomm
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: i cant use mccp in zmud 4.62?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either you have turned it off in mush or in zmud
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try: mccp start
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err not in mush - mudside
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for zmud: Preferences > General > Emulation, and check the 'MUD Compression (MCCP)'
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also consider switching to mushclient - that one is way more popular here than Zmud
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: i check but this option dont exit
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mccp is provided in an external module with zmud 4.62 32bit
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: i try with your client
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/download/mccp_pc.zip here?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MCCLIENT.EXE (28160 bytes) and MCCLIENT.CFG (105 bytes approx)
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MCCLIENT.CFG (26 bytes) contains one line: 4010 23.111.136.202 4010
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MCCLIENT.EXE (28160 bytes) runs as a local server in the firewall
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: zmud.exe character accesses host: 127.0.0.1 port 4010 
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MCCLIENT.EXE (28160 bytes) is run first while connected to the internet (won't load offline, but once loaded, may go offline and remain loaded) 
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: in mushclient why input bar cleared after each command?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you want them, press alt+0 and click on "Keep Commands On Prompt Line". I think that is what you might be wanting.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: how do i keep the last command i typed in the command input area? in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: type tech -h 10, I think Turie answered that
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: game > configure > commands, tick auto-repeat commands
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: that option dont work
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is the option Starling said.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is the option Starling said.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Evidently so, because Turie is auto-repeating commands ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: can you repeat please?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: use tech -h 10
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: game > configure > commands, tick auto-repeat command
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: then hit ok
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is on the upper right of the mini-window that pops up.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You should see that the command you enter is not cleared from the command line, but becomes selected and remains in place until you clear it
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Whenever I kill a cp mob, I'm getting FOUR automatic cp check in a row - I'm guessing this has to do with S&D? But can I make it do it only once? It does "cp ch" twice and "cp check" twice, btw.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Do you have Bast's plugins installed?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I would just disable auto sending "cp ch" / "cp check" - that just slows you down
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If so, that could be part of the issue as Bast's script does send cp checks
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Yes, after a lot of fiddling around, I have, because I wanted the statmonitor from there.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Can you elaborate on it slowing you down?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You mean the way it has to wait for command lag (from combat) to clear before the cp check can go through?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sending cp check and receiveing answer from mud costs you a few seconds, right ?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe just 1 second
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Only when I'm lagged from sending other commands, e.g. combat abilities, which are on a 3.0 second lag
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Time off task and poor gear slow me down a lot more :P
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc, where is my iphone
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: you only have one?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Monst raspberry
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Monst sticks his tongue out, catching a few flies in the process.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: flawless...
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: iphone, yes, only one
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: which plugin gags the {RDESC} tags?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The mapper, probably
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: I want to torture the planned obsolence guys involved with printer ink cartridges...
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the ascii map gags rdesc
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because it requests map update when a door opens, but there's no out of band signal for doors opening, and I didn't want it to request if a room description matches the pattern
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how likely is that, though?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: likely enough that *I* saw it happen
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means pretty likely
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I'm not the best tester
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know how many rooms it would happen in. I know that the academy has at least one of them though.
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're just wondering why the rdesc tag doesn't show, that's why. it's still there and you can still trigger on it
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least I think you can
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: does the plugin gag and prevent you from triggering off rdesc in another plugin?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it gags, but I hope it doesn't prevent triggering in another plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyxl Tech: guys, since I cant register an account on the mushclients boards, I'm sort of forced to ask here. How do you call a table from one to the other plugin? GetPluginVariable works, but it doesn't turn the varible into a table, it just makes it a string with seemingly no way to convert into a table
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyxl Tech: guys, since I cant register an account on the mushclients boards, I'm sort of forced to ask here. How do you call a table from one to the other plugin? GetPluginVariable works, but it doesn't turn the varible into a table, it just makes it a string with seemingly no way to convert into a table
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyxl Tech: oops sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: When I load some of Bast's miniwindows, they don't save if I quit Mushclient. As in: I have to go into Plugins and add them anew every time I'm going to play. Any tip for how to get them to save?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: dont quit?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Shaleya: which miniwindows aren't saving?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Bast: The stats window and the tabbar. Oh, and the GQ window as well.
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is the GQ window the miniwin_gq file or the miniwin_events file?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: so crazy question if i want to update my aardwolf package from 1802 to 1940 how do i keep my databas and plugins and everything
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There's an installer
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just select your old directory and it should do it for you
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: make a backup of your old install then run the installer and point  it at your current isntall
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: the installer is in the aardwolf 1802 file?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, the 1940
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It should auto-run on download
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: finger fiendish for the url to download the later installer
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: make a backup (just copy mush directory with mush closed) before you start any updates 
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: is there a way to check for update manualy
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the manual update check command is 'package update check'
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Anyone know under what settings you can set up to where it keeps what you typed on the command line, for example if I was to type n then hit enter it would keep the n there so I could just spam enter to keep going north?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Game>Configure>commands. Check Auto repeat command
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: that did the trick, tyvm :)
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: do I need to escape the # sign in regexp?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: in this regexp
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ^(?!You still have to kill \*)
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is the initial ?! supposed to do?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.google.com/search?q=regex+%3F!
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: it means negative lookahead.  See: https://www.google.com/search?q=regex+%3F
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: whoops, wrong url, that's what I copied from Fiendish :P
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: This one explains it: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12210807/what-does-mean
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unfortunately the hyperlink2 plugin doesn't work 100% on all urls :\
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sometimes mush gets in a state for me where I can't copy/paste into mush but I can copy out.  When that happens I need to restart mush to work with my clipboard again.  I've seen this on the r1937 build a few times and it just happened to me on the r1940 build.  I'm running in wine.  Any suggestions?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sounds like a wine bug
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, it's probably wine.  I'll see if there is an update for wine.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I spent the past week writing a new communication log plugin that does everything that the old one does but with new bugs
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: exciting
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Sweet! I love when we get new bugs!
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hiballl Tech: it's not bugs...it's features
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, no
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it really is bugs
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll try to get them all out before releasing it
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thanks for the new bugs :) but that is the most important feature, behind maps
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've been wanting to do this rewrite for a very long time
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: fiendish I think you should write something with a sharptracker in it...mine screws up everytime I upgrade mush...it doesn't work now :(
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does sharp tracker do?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is simple script that just shows total gold, xp, trains gathered from pups/levels
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: count how many times you sharpen a weapon?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: it pushes the reports on your double and quests and levels to your communications channel
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is that all?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also it shows how much xp / pups you got during double (and probably speed)
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why is it called sharp tracker if it doesn't track sharpens?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: yep! It counts pups and tells you how far inbetween levels and pups
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: it times everything
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: timing kills is finicky
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I used to do that way back in the day
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also counts vorpals and skill completions (time to get skill too 100%)
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess it's probably easier now
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: oh yes...Vorpals
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, put together a complete list of things you want to track and I'll see what I can do in between doing other things
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: just add that to your ext update! LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: REALLY?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: sweet...I will get that list together
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: speaking of next updates...
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I need to do something
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: damn. things to do in the morning. I guess nothing else is happening tonight
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good night all
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: night
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: need help lol, my MUSH only left with one big screen for me
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: with only the main window, the communication log, maps and stats all disappeared
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: try resetaard
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: tried that
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: not working lol
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: tried closing and re-opening?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: done that too
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sorry, that's all i got
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i dunno if i can re-install lol my IT just blocked any installation on my laptop
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i don't believe mush installs. it just runs
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i tried to download the latest patch but i need admin password to patch it
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: so i didnt lol
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i used to play at work using a thumb drive
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: so don't install software on your boss's hardware
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ah i know why now
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i realized my plugins including the original plugins are gone
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: got it fixed lol thanks Gorsk for your help!
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any player using a screen reader on who can answer a quick question?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne pokes MeadowMare Kya in the ribs.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oh, new feature in MUSH, displaying messages received while in note writing mode? Or has that always been, and I just never noticed because I echo most everything to chat log anyway?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as long as chat comes over gmcp
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it also replays messages in main after you leave note mode
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unless you mean it's showing chats in main while in note mode, because I think that shouldn't happen
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, didn't show anything while in note mode. I was just surprised to see that queued message waiting for me after leaving note mode.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that way you don't miss anything no matter where you look
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'm guessing it's only for anything echoed to main window, as none of my chats were queued up.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc, my letter T is still having problems
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know of a way to compare a cell with countif when doing multiple countif's in a row verses a column?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's a countif