T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Anybody on using tintin++?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Ixle :P
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: output of "clients": | Tintin                          |     10 |
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: That's a nice feature I never knew about...very cool
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: I just had a coding question...will check forums I guess, thx tho Trachx
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just ask, you never know who is online
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Just trying to figure out what is the point of the class feature
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: You can set up blocks of code, each with it's own file name
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: I don't see how grouping it all into a class adds a benefit
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Except maybe to give you the option to kill a whole block of code at once?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: hello?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: anyone there? :p
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Better to ask your specific question.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: i need a litle help. i don't  hear any sound. i don't know how i disactived them, i have a lot of sound trighered none of them work
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: volume up
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Does sound work on other programs? Is your sound muted?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: volum up?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: but how do i re arange it?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have they ever worked?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Answer my other questions then, tech -h mend
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: ah sory. yes sound works on other programs
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Game -> Configure -> Triggers, check whether "Enable Trigger Sounds" is ticked
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: trighers sounds are checked
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pick any trigger that should play sound, click Edit, then click Test
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you do not hear sound go to mixer setting and unmute Mush client
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if sound file cannot be found pick existing sound file
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: ok going to try that. thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have marked "only if inactive" by accident unmark it
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also check whether triggers are enabled ("Enable Triggers" in Game -> Configure -> Triggers) and whether that specific trigger is enabled - when you enter into editing trigger then "Enabled" should be ticked
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what's a maam in the middle attack?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's like a man in the middle attack, but with a women?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds spicy
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it's illegal in most states and parts of arkansas
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: figs
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: need to try this maam in the middle attack out
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: Apparently there is gender equality in the tech world...
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: how do i turn off the inventory serial help on the new mush?? 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it say?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: It's one of the plugins. You should be able to see which one it is and disable it
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: "The Aardwolf MUSHclient Package includes a plugin for displaying object serial numbers in your inventory."
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: and more and more about object serials 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it say to type?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: i get it every single time i check my inventory
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: ugh i swore i typed that.... is it syntax exact? 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define "syntax exact"?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: it appears typing inven serial help doesn't et you the right screen
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: with an s
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: serials
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can try to make it more flexible
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: silly s 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: It's ok Fiendish. It's still the awesomemest thing out there
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: it's fine, i knew how to find an anwer =P 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rezit: the plugin has a command to silence the message. removing the plugin entirely isn't a good suggestion, imo
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: i dont think he meant that, he probably thought it was another script causing the issue - but this is based on him saying how awesome it is 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's see...
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: it worked for me
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it might work, but the plugin adds useful functionality for managing inventory without getting in the way. I'd rather see advice on the right command to clear the hint than to remove the plugin, forget it exists, and then think that the only value added by using the mushclient package is that it facilitates S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mackenzie: I'll add in some kind of automatic vanish for the hint after a couple repeats
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mackenzie: I'm adding a counter so that it only shows the message 3 times. reasonable?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: Mapper database automatic backup delayed due to combat. Will try again in 5 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: how do i change that to 10 minutes?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can either toggle mapper backups quiet or submit code for setting that as a parameter
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks. it'll be the first option. the second one's beyond my skill set
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 5 seconds and 10 minutes are both somewhat arbitrary. 10 minutes is just slightly more likely to cause a backup to be missed if you kill a mob and then quit right away.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't trigger the delayed backup once you exit combat?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I figured that 5 seconds would be long enough for most people to finish their fight on average without making them wait too long before being able to start the next fight
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: my fights tend to last alot longer than 5 seconds is why
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Why doesn't it just set a watcher for GMCP combat state?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it seemed nicer this way
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Seem more arbitrary :P
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I didn't want to force the player to stop attacking mobs
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Gorsk.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I would consider changing it to just happen at the end of combat 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk beams a smile at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't see how they would have to. After combat state changes, start a 5 second timer to backup, if combat is re-engaged before the timer expires, reset the watch
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: reepeat until backup achieved
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not unreasonable
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe in the next update
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also could consider backing up to a /tmp location (or roaming for windows), on exit and periodically copy over.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Unless instant-state backups are an issue
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh hi!
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: his given out here
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: any idea why my client periodically stops responding to commands ubtil i reconnect?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you're disconnected when you try to send them?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: its called mudrammer on ios
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: my mudrammer does the same. i noticed that it does that when i rotate my screen, so i lock the rotation. that helps
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: i think im actually still connected but server doesnt respond to commamds
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sneaky!
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: oh weird are you using it in vertical or horizontal? the text is a little skewedd in vertical for me
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i use both. either way, but it does not like it when it rotates.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: when it rotates when logged in. then it does what you said, does not respond to commands.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: ah yeah just was dcd again after changing orientation
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: do you m
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: oops my autocorrect doesnt seem tk
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: to work here sorry
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: do you have any solutions for that by any chance?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: lock rotation. other than that, no idea.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ya, come on geez
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry, meant to chide on a different channel.. not this one
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does Bast's eqDB plugin always error when you do 'help invdetails'?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok fixed it
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igniz Tech: how do i make a trigger to notify me when gqs are in range
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://imgur.com/a/33Thc
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igniz Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igniz Tech: whats the message when you scried??
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: "You feel as if you are being watched."
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igniz Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: np!
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: How do I turn off these Time to VOTE prompts?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: ivoted clear
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: Thank you Ralyn
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Anyone with MUSHclient questions, get them answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: 10 TPs to anyone who fixes my wifi issue without me having to buy a new router: http://community.linksys.com/t5/Wireless-Routers/EA7300-loses-internet-connection-but-only-on-wifi/td-p/1220327
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: change channel from auto to something fixed, disconnec usb 3 devices, you can fido tps :P (if it works)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No you can't
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Try fido'ing one to me now, I'll wait
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: at least USB 3.0 devices unshielded will interfere with wifi devices like mouses
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: no wireless USB devices in use
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: tried channels, used an analyzer to find channels with the lowest traffic, tried multiple on 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: fixed channels should not really matter unless your neighbour uses some kind of amplifier anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean, the 2.4Ghz band is CLOBBERED with tons of devices chatting over it. 5Ghz is much less used.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: u ever check that the antennas on your router are still connected?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have some kind of network manage? sometimes software decides to switch to "better" router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: they're connceted and the signal is strong. that's the weird part: it never disconnects from the router, it just stops sending/receiving packets from the internet.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also, make sure the antennae have clear view of the main room they sit in (IE not behind a TV, Monitor, Toaster,etc)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: it happens <10ft from the router too
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: does your router have stats for rx/tx retry rate?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't matter. Interference isn't distance based (other than having more chances to encounter it)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does your router have some kind of "IDP" ? maybe it just blocks you because of too many session open
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: sco
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: oopsie
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: Dendrix: not that I've seen
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe it was called IDS and ADP intrusion detection system, anomaly detection something 
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: anyone sending deauth packets to your clients because they have a beef with you ?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try using wireshark to check whether you get some kind of icmp prohibited or so messages
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: if someone is dedicated enough to follow me around when I moved 20 miles away then they win all of the money
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah run wireshark, ping 8.8.8.8 and see what actually happens. It's guaranteed (based on your forum post) to at least make it to 192.168.1.1 (the router), from there wireshark should give more info.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway seems software related, too many open connection too many connections per second / nat table overflow
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: how would I resolve that on the router's end?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Lots of laptops restrict total simultaneous connections to 8.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then other people would have that problem too
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't think it's on the router's end, TBH
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: this happens on multiple laptops as well as TV, phone, PS3, PS4
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Did you do the simple solution and reset your DHCP pool?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you have multiple devices sharing that router ?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I've done multiple factory resets, if that would do it. this has been an issue since I got the router as well.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is your router configured to block traffic at certain times
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: not blocking traffic a certain times.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if multiple devices - then probably one of them misbehave, unless you tested only your pc / router scenario (ie without those extra devices)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: NOT RECOMMENDED: But lets do it to test. Pidgeonhole your laptop and open/forward ALL ports to it
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you tried using combofix (in case your pc is virus infected?)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I'm not near the router right now big X big D
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: this sounds more like an issue of the router blocking communication on that channel for a small window of time (you see it sometimes when they receive the becon that says hey military network here change channel and stay quiet for a minute)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: XD
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but his neighbors would have the same issue, and it wouldnt be that common
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I am relatively close to an airport, but this happened when I lived elsewhere with the same router.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: have you tried another router by any chance to see if its device related?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I haven't done combofix or anything like that, but this has been across multiple clean OS installs on the PC
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I think he is avoiding changing devices
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: my previous router (which broke) didn't have these issues.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so problem is with your router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: TBH, I usually just slap DD-WRT on my routers. Has much cleaner logging, and more verbose.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: can try to load open WRT on the router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: that's a good idea
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: his router doesn't support dd-wrt or any others for that matter
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: at least that i could find that quickly
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Is it a modem and router, or just a router?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: just a router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hmm. Have you tried setting it to a single channel and disabling either 2.4 or 5 GHz?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: just uy  a cheap ubiquiti ap and be done with it, if its just the wifi
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What the hell did you just say? :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: AP is the way to go
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So then that means you have a modem, right? Does it support enabling wifi?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I actually haven't tried disabling 2.4/5 and using the other. we wanted the 5GHz band for streaming to the TV but I have some older devices that can't do 5GHz
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: no wifi on the modem
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nods, I've been there (Looking at you, PS3)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: PS3 is not here.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: he name PsThree is available for use.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: but yeah my needs with this router were: gigabit, wired and wireless, 2.4GHz and 5GHz band. and not Asus because my Asus router had just randomly died and I was angry.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: so Gb and 802.11ac+
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: sure, yes, why not
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: maybe I should just buy a new router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: And pizza
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I had pizza yesterday though
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Dough*
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I cant eat the same thing two days in a row, mom
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But you didn't share with the class.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I only bought two slices and I'm a fatty
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Did it have mayo
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: Cheez what router should I own
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I actually had a pizza with mayo the other day
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It was surprisingly good
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: It really is
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: it doesn't sound bad
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: These people think I'm kidding around
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Not with mayo, I'm not
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I would have, if i hadn't just eaten one :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: Cheezburger I demand you find me a cheap wireless router that can also handle three wired connections
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That would literally be any router anywhere.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Except the POS you have now
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: ok well I found the one that CAN'T
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: My honest suggestion is to just fork the money for a nighthawk and be good for the next decade
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: too much money pick something cheaper
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: $200 isn't "too much money" IMO, for future safety
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The cheap stuff will be deprecated in a year
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: General Xaeris rapidly nods twice at No Offense Cheezburger, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Spending $60 every year versus $200 for 7-10 years... I know what trade I'd take
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: if it can handle streaming 4k Stranger Things to my TV without any ping issues playing video games I'm not worried about what might come in a year
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: when exactly does a router become deprecate? on the other hand I'm using the router for, you know, internet stuff, so my expectations might be lower :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: if yer not a corporation, what would you expected to use a router for ? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Was ... was that serious?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Wait, I wanna ride this wave
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: me too
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What do you mean, Kit?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cheap? mikrotik or ubiquiti
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: next tech thing I spent money on I want to be a new monitor. if I have to replace the stupid router I have now I don't want to blow a bunch of money on it :(
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I think it was meant to be a response to raded's question
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: come in and be my guest :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Unless you're going for a 4k monitor, you could still pick up both for >$350
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you could also get just access point (in case your router has buggy WiFi part)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: dual band wireless, wired ports, gigabit router.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: How many wires ports you need, and what range for the wifi?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: wired*
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I mean a 'home' router is juart to access internet, and a 10Mb is enough (I am on 100... but I'm a geek)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 250Gb down, 150 up here :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: A 'home' router is still a router, is it not?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, a good bot need more speed
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: three wired ports, not a huge range. 1200sq ft house.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All routers are the same as long as you don't need to do intranet VPN
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: 250Gb down? G? G??
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, sorry, M
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: you have >1 computer?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I wish
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: thumb up Cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I have a PC and two laptops that I like to keep plugged in when possible
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 1200 sq ft house doesn't tell us much
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: mudd: 4 PC + 3 mobiles... 2 wifi
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There could be all kinds of walls between one point and the next, it could be on an edge or in the center
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: My only requirements are: low ping, stable wifi and as small as possible downside. 100Mbps here, but 10 would of been enough, unless downloading an ISO or something I really don't need that
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you solve walls with hotspots, not with better router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: downtine, not downside
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: My house has 2 gaming pcs, 2 ps4's, 2 cell phones, 2 laptops, 1 tablet, 2 apple tv's, and a patridge in a pear tree.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: well the crappy router I'm using now has no issue with signal in the house
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well, it has issues with something :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Abelinc won't let me get online :(
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can't guaranteee it's not the signal drop
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: it had those same issues in my old apartment too so I don't think that's the issue :p
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: dang, i want to move in with cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: OMG Cheezburger, pay attention not to sparkle next WW
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: my wife and I game together :P Means I gotta buy double of everything
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the fact you have 11 devices or something means very little. how many of them doing traffic at the same time?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Actually it matters exponentially
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: if it's dropping signal with nothing but air between the antenna and the laptop that's on the desk next to it then I still think it's the router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All connected devices are allocated an equivalent amount of bandwidth
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Regardless of if they are using it or not
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that's a very, very bad setup, imho
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: but to each his own
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and yes... a crappy router could not be able to handle thoe 150 simultanueos accesses :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's the WiFi standard, though
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All routers do that, it can't be help. it's pretty much the equivalent of a C/C++ malloc
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: depends on the standard
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, everything 802.11 and above follows it
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: anyway find me a $20 router Cheez
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lol 20 dollar router..
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: huh... malloc was programmes side deprecated 15 years ago :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I have 3-4 devices online at most times. my speed is almost at the nominal speed of the wan connection, when I'm the only one downloading
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it has know the size of the "array" of devices beforehand, that's why it blocks out an allocation
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: programmers*
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I really think you got that wrong :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What are you talking about Kit, if you go and write a C program today you WILL ABSOLUTELY have to malloc
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: malloc is C, oldC++ uses new, new c++ uses make_*
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I know, because I just wrote one a week ago :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: buy me pretty things, Mr Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yes... I was jerking around... i actually HATE the concept of 'Garbage Collection' (old age programmer)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "A Wi-Fi router rated at 300 Mbps with 100 devices connected, for example, can only offer on average 3 Mbps to each of them (300/100=3)." -- Credit: https://www.lifewire.com/how-many-devices-can-share-a-wifi-network-818298
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger knows his networking.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and it's obvious you have to know 'malloc' in c... c++ could avoid to know
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: nope :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: there is a word there, loaded with meaning: average :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well no shit...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nothing is every a hard/exact limit
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ever*
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Now you're just being pedantic :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if what you said earlier is true, yeah, you could have some variation, but no speed beyond 25 mbps
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: this is the goddamn tech channel on a MUD in 2017 we're all pedantic
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 'ever'... I agree, Cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and I'm sure you can reach 100, for example
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's not true either
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: KirCarson, yiu should program in C++ C++ doesn't have garbage collector because it desn'
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Raded: LOL
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I prefer Scala development these days, even for low level
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: doesn't create garbage
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: most all of Scala is lazy evaluated, so it a very very smart Mark&Sweep style of GC.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: now someone give me an Amazon link for a cheapo router that will stream 4K on Netflix without me noticing on other devices but will also let me stay connected to Aard while I'm afk
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: StarsOscar: I did program in c++... actually visual studio c++ HAS GC :(
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you already have cheap router :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-33-389-031&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC-_-pla-_-Network+-+Wireless+Routers-_-9B-33-389-031&gclid=CjwKCAjwhOvPBRBxEiwAx2nhLtVeC3OpKUwVawc09NvmczU60g7RcqIdeNVtoqLPAtWXhBWOQ7n3uxoCn78QAvD_BwE
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Holy good god that url...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: thanks, Trachx.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: VC is crap
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: bad newegg, bad
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: so you see all king of programmers forget to surround staements in try{} and 'forget' to fee res and mem :(
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either get any (even used) that can be flashed with dd-wrt or something more reliable than cheap device
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: not gigabit and not dual band though :(
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try and catch are nice - you just need 1 try in main and 1 catch :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if ALL devices download, at full speed, at the same time, the average speed is divided by n. if 20 devices idle and one downloads, that benefits from the full speed. tell me how that matches the quote above (as reply to my question about which of them actually do any traffic at the same time): Cheezburger Tech: All connected devices are allocated an equivalent amount of bandwidth
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Try { doSomethingEvilOrDie } match { case Success(x) => println("Evil succeeded");case Failure(e) => println("Some goody two-shoes stopped us") }
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you CAN allocate an equivalent amount of bandwidth, and that can be enforced by the router, but that is certainly not something it automatically does, unless all devices actually request that bandwitch
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger slaps Trachx.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You must have wrote the legacy code i've been debugging!
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: a little OT: It's interesting to see HOW MANY programmers / tech ppl are in the mud ATM
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Everything fails with 200 OK
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also adding while makes your program bug proof: main() {while (1) ( try { doAnything } catch {} }
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: bug proof as in that no bug will take down your program 
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: A good chunk of the mud is in IT in one form or another
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded nods at No Offense Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: cut to the chase -- what is the optimal config to download pr0n?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I do medical software stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: nntp
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Tor and a VPN :p
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded peers intently at No Offense Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry to say Trachx, but a single try catch in main is looking for hell
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: what kind of porn are you looking at, mr burger
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and VM or at least sandbox
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: darkweb pron, clearly
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the optimal config is to browse with no cache/log/etc. :) and certainly no 'bookmarks' :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Always VM, sandboxes fail
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess single catch and try is anti-pattern
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ctrl_shift_n ftw
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's not only an anti-pattern, it's a code smell, and it's un-integratable :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: StarsOscar is agreeing with that No Offense Cheezburger person again...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "The application died somewhere, but I don't know where" is the only kind of error you could give :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Trachx: not just antipattern... antiprogrammer, I'd say... I the mean you'll kill any programmer trying to put hands on YOUR code
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: UNLESS
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but business friendly, that way business always needs *you* to fix their problems
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Everything is properly wrapped in a promise
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: create bugless software and you will earn no money once you sell your software
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's not business friendly, it's just job security while they search for someone to replace you forever :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ROFL Cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: let the dev create bugs otherwise i need a new job
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "Ticket Reads: Searched for dog images, was returned infected phalluses" -- "Programmer Response: Working as intended"
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are paid by hour or line-of-code , well quality does not matter
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Sounds like Someone works in Q&A :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Good god I never want to go to paid for lines of code.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'd never write a loop again in my life
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: that might or might not be acurate depending on your view of Q&A...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "So did you REALLY need to define every word in the english language?: -- "Yes"
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: so what's special about this nighthawk router other than it sounds like a synthwave band name
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: does in come with DD-WRT already installed?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: dual band, 4 antennae, guest network, gigabit+, decent ram, lots of CPU power, etc
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, but it's compatible
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: iteration is one of the basic concepts of programming
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Right, but if i'm paid for lines of code, I wouldn't ever iterate
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I mean, the Nighthawk AC1750 is somewhat reasonably priced
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R2AZLD2 does this get the Mr Burger seal of approval
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's the one i have
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Sub $100 on prime too
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's way less than I bought mine for
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: maybe I'll grab it if I can't get my dumb router sorted out
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Actually this is the one I have: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GPAOJJG?th=1
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: ULTIMATE GAMING ROUTER
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I like it because it actually knows to de-prioritize netflix traffic over my game traffic :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: does it have turbo mode for gqs?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Like when the Wife and I were both downloading destiny, I could still play rocket league at 19ms ping
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Totally, Mend, totally
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: thats just a lack of bandwith Cheez :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yes and no.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The router actually gives things like that less bandwidth when games are going, but will also give it more when it's downloads or video stream
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for that you should talk to fiendish, to flag the packets when gmcp gquest message is received :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nah, I use a custom client, it already does that :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: that sounds too complicated
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Pleb
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yeah, I know. I still was unable to get it to work decently on win
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded is agreeing with that No Offense Cheezburger person again...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: is it allways doing that or only when the bandwith is fully used like QoS ?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Did you run "activateMyBotPlease" from the root directory?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Only when bandwidth is nearing max
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I don't trust other people bots!
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Which I have 250 down, but both the wife and I were pulling destiny down at 30MB (yes, big B), so it was right up on the cap
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: big B
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: on a more serious note, I did get it to work. I mean the client. the windowing part was a mistery, no mapper, no channels, I had no idea if it was supposed to look like that or if I had to do something myself
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: and on an even more serious note, this is the monitor I've been looking at: https://www.amazon.com/VG248QE-1920x1080-144Hz-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B00B2HH7G0
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: which is why I don't want to drop money on a router that adds NOTHING to my internet video gaming skill.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for me gaming = mud, so the HZ part only has to be comfortable enough for the eye. even when I bot, my screen doesn't move fast enough for it to matter (yeah, slow bot, I know) :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I miss having a monitor with a good refresh rate, I've had my 60hz one for 8+ years. it's time for an upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: unrelated to the above: I saw the specification for MCCP writes that the servers can end the compression. is that something that actually happens, or is it a rfc-like urban legend? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Happens every ice age.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: ok. and then the subnegotionation occurs again? or it starts over from the initial options exchange?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats the command to redo the gui in mush?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Coming Undone was like, 2005?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone here on windows 10 or whatever who uses mushclient and who has a minute, I need to know if my installer requires you to run it as admin or not
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I've mentioned it before, but it prompts a warning, but you can choose "More details" and "Run anyway."
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a warning because it's unsigned right?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I believe so. I can check it real quick.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there isn't much I can do about not wanting to pay for a signing certificate
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Only happens if you have UAC disabled, too.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, maybe I'm wrong, because this one didn't set it off. I know previous ones had, though.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume a self signed certificate wouldn't prevent this and that I would need to pay a CA 
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: you can try https://letsencrypt.org/
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: letsencrypt does not do code signing
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: Lets Encrypt is a free, automated, and open Certificate Authority.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, I gues the windows 10 creators update has an option to block apps that weren't installed from the windows app store
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I hope they don't make that mandatory in Windows 10.1 or whatever
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Send your source to me, I'll check everything out and make sure it's on the up and up! =P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't need to send anything to you for that, it's already online
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am annoyed if Microsoft does the App block.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: both MUSHclient.exe and my installer are generated automatically on AppVeyor using the appveyor.yml files in the repositories
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so all of the source files for both are the contents of those two repositories
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wow, apple stock got a serious bump today
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that earnings report was a home run
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, about the installer, I mostly need to confirm that a player can still install the package on a USB stick and transport it somewhere they don't have install privileges
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: of course, this new creators update thing could be a second wrench if the system will also block the execution of anything not from the appstore
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: fiendish ?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah what's up
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: the package installer still is r1943
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checking
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Github was having server errors generating the Pages sites. Let me kick it again and see if that fixes it.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KitCarson )
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one sec while I initiate a new appveyor build, which should repopulate the site template
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thank you. fixed now
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so weird
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and I confirm it's all ok now
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: great
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i turn off mushclient showing me every command i enter ?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Game -> Configure -> Output -> Echo Commands
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I love how, when you unsubscribe from a mailing list, they send you that one last email saying, "You are now unsubscribed."
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: and what's the deal with airplane food
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm when ever i try to xrt using the mapper to hoard it takes me to the wrong place.. how can i train the mapper to go to the right place?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: if you do xrt swordbreaker, does it do it correctly?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: it is a few spaces north of it
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Inside the area, or outside?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: outside
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, that's very odd
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: i think there's a way to flag an area entrance again, but I can't recall the command
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: that one
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: so what i think is happening is this..
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i have a portal to kobold which is just north of it
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i run to the entrance of the area.. which is just north but when you try to go south from kobold you cannot
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i need to tell the mapper that the only exit out of hoard entrance is west not south
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: can always make a cexit for west
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: that will get used before any other exits from that room, which can be good or bad
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah that is a good idea.. but i don't know if the mapper mapps the areas between area
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: lemme give it a try
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's smart enough for that yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nice.. the cexit worked
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thanks all
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: can I split the screen like in zmud?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No. :(
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id love to have a plugin that does that zmud style screen split when you scroll up
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Probably not going to be possible to make.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is possible but hasn't been done
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea i thought about trying it but im just not that good
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Also, Fiendish, I sent you a note on personal, don't know if the link I gave you there is useful, but apparently GlobalSign will allow you to digitally sign windows applications for free.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've recently just modularized the code for making scrolling textboxes in miniwindows, which should make a horizontal splitline plugin easy to implement
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: come agai?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so...you know how the comm log has text that you can select and scroll around?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: yes? I think so
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so, right, it actually doesn't. that's all smoke and mirrors
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and it's like 1000 lines of code to make it happen
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: really...
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I finally years later have gotten around to making that code portable so that any plugin can just make a scrolling text area easily
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it used to not work at all, whenever the screen scrolled with text selected it would "select" a different line
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: so youre saying this could be used for a zmud style screen-split plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id like to think if someone really knew what they were doing it wouldnt be a very difficult plugin to write, especially knowing that code you mentioned is available
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the code isn't available quite yet
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: without that code it's probably the most difficult thing a person can do
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats like half the battle right there
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: so scrolling text windows is very difficult in mushclient? seems odd
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the reason is technical and unfortunate
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but capturing text as something that actually approximates text is historically one of the things that mushclient miniwindows are incapable of without my code
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: awfully complicated... oh well
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: sounds*
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can use secondary world windows, but you can't do quite as much with those as you can do with miniwindows 
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: arcidayne: I saw your note. thanks for the link. I think I'd seen them before and was scared off by the title talking specifically about java apps
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I'll try it out and see what happens
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, looking at -h...MUSHclient has shipped with a plugin "Current_Output_Window.xml" which isn't really what you guys are asking for, but it does solve *why* you would ask for it...(i.e. it lets you be scrolled up to read back stuff without missing seeing new stuff come in)
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: wait is this in reference to the zmud-style split window thing?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that sounds great, i have to update mush to get that?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's shipped with MUSH practically since the beginning of time
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh its with mush, not aardmush
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill check it out
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, both, but it's a Gammon file
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it ships with aardmush as well as vanilla
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just go to file -> plugins, add, and select it
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh, its basically what i want just backwards
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, that plugin waits until you scroll up, and then it pops up a miniwindow which shows the recent stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yep, i want it to be the other way around but this proves the theory
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if something new comes in, you'll see it in that miniwin while your main output is where it always is
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: maybe my idea about how to do it is backwards..
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't find that plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i was thinking youd stick a minwindow on the top half of the output window
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and have that be the scrollable/history
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that would be the ideal from a user interface standpoint, but more difficult from an implementation standpoint
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea sounds like it from what fiend has said
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, Starling, you're right, I don't see it in the current repo...it used to be in aardMUSH, must've been pruned at some point...looking at the release notes, I'll bet that it was removed in r1910 back in May...
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if someone wants to play with it, go to https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/tag/r1900 and download the zip to grab that file from it
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh hi
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is the Fiendish one here?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's offline currently, but others may be able to help :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm here now
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the current_output_window plugin is kinda not great
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you're right that it will let you see. it just won't let you interact with the text
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll be happier with a solution that includes interaction in both sides of the divider
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does 'fixsql' do?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: The aardwolf ascii art on start looks terrible on my system, where is the settings in mushclient to change the encoding? I can't seem to remember
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mapper questions?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure those too
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the mapper area/mapper find commands.. what do they sort the results on?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is it just whatever order they come back?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that depends on whether you have quicklist on or off
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have it off then it sorts by distance, which is going to be slow because it pathfinds all of them
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have quicklist on, which is the default I believe, then...
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let me look at the code a
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I guess I was surprised they weren't sorted by room id, which I thought was ascending as rooms were encountered in the area typically
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like if n was the entrance, the next room over would many times be n + 1
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: areas aren't organized like that 
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also areas don't have an entrance
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a common misconception
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like for some areas.. there's a room I can get to without having to pass through a maze.. I would want that to be the first result.. but not sure how to specify that
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: areas can have any number of entrances
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like deathtrap dungeon's cexit destinations
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, looks like there's no sorting
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm!
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how do I check quicklist's setting?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mapper quicklist
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ok, it's ON
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: which is fine
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I mean, not sure if it's better.. since it'll be a lot slower for larger queries?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: to have it off that is*
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: quicklist off is a lot slower
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it gives you a sense of distance
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for all intents and purposes I'm trying to suck less at GQs and CPs.. so probably wouldn't be worth the bonus of possibly landing in the maze start
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: depending on your target having quicklist off can either help or not
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh wow. defines I love your desc
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling: If you mean the fixsql function from MUSHclient_help, it has a comment right after it's declared which says what it does...local function fixsql (s)  -- replace single quotes with two lots of single quotes
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, I wasn't reading that.  I just saw it in a plugin.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm guessing you read it in the mapper plugin (the only other file I see in a grep of the MUSHclient folder)? it has the same comment 2 lines lower...return "'" .. (string.gsub (s, "'", "''")) .. "'" -- replace single quotes with two lots of single quotes
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I'm going to make the update checker check once per week instead of every launch
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That sounds good
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ideally it won't make much of a difference except if I'm making updates every day
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i turn off the echoing of ommands in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Alt-0, uncheck "Echo my command" at the top
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i turn off the echoing of ommands in mushclientm
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: anyone know?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: its in gloabl settings
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I already answered that, like 5 min ago
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Alt-0, uncheck the box at the top that says "echo my input" and lets you pick a color.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i didnt see it in my feed
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: wierd
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks !
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: that clicking the button didnt fix it.  i entered something mud side not client side on mush to make my commands like echo.  im getting this:  You entered: get jade bag
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'echocommands'
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: that clicking the button didnt fix it.  i entered something mud side not client side on mush to make my commands like echo.  im getting this:  You entered: get jade bagcl fever?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'echocommands'
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: As mentioned before, type 'echocommands'
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: perfect thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this channel's recent history is hilarious
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: -a 20
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: for some reason maptype 1 does not work, it shows up like this: https://i.imgur.com/QjCjb6P.png - I have tried resetting the font/map window and toggling unicode in the config
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you must use a capable font
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also you have to have utf8 enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that looks like it's in a miniwindow?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: utf8 is enabled (in mushclient) and i'm using the default font (courier new)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: yes miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is it _my_ miniwindow plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it doesn't look like it
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: no it's Bast's :)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try using mine and see if it displays properly. then we can rule out some client setting
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Bast's automap plugin may not be capable of displaying other maptypes
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mine definitely is
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: it used to work, but I upgraded your script I think and it broke it for some reason, haven't been able to figure out why
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: give me a sec. I'll load his plugin and see whta happens
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: yours is Aardwolf_BigMap_Graphical? it works fine :)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf_BigMap_Graphical is for something else
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: how do I turn on your ascii map? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aard_ASCII_map.xml
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I can't get bast's map window to show anything
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh there we go. I got it
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have not used Bast's Map window since the AardMUSH map mini-window upgrades.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think it uses tags.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, I don't know. Are you sure bast's plugin was showing alternate maptypes before?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because it doesn't seem to now
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: aardwolf_ascii_mapper is loaded but I don't think it's showing anything, unless it's also GMCP_mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try restarting mushclient
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: plugins sometimes toggle tags when they load and unload
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you probably also can't have them both loaded at the same time, which I should fix
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: ok I got it to work :) it works fine
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Is Lunks URL the commonly-accepted version of WW S&D? 
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not anymore.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Finger Starling for an improved version.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: why wouldnt font load properly on startup i have to change it and then change it back to correct font loading incorrectly
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client are you using?  Are you on windows?  What font are you trying to use?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: ubuntu and dina
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I have only ever tried it on Windows sorry - if no one else can help would suggest posting a note to Fiendish or reporting on teh website.  Is the issue only when I try that specific font?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And by website, I mean fiendish's github in his finger.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: trying to tweak the fonts and see if it helps
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: Alt+5 if you are using mush
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: is www.aardwolf.com down for anyone else?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: hackers
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i was just asking about security
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/aardwolf.com.html
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: maybe abelinc tripped over a cable
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: anyone else have a problem with comodo?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Bastard owes me money, yeah.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: i mean the antivirus
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: the cause?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: darknet
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: phone hacking eq for messenger fb and such
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: pretty advanced
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Never used it, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: waht's advanced?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: lol me neither but my parents were might have tore me to shreds
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its a group for script kiddies
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: waht is
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its under spy something
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: download off of google
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i tried to say it works both ways
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: she tried it off of me and im not happy
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i asked aard is protected
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: testing tech colorchange
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: success
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Anyone ever got this message with the S+D after upgrading MUSH. --> Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: reinstall the plugin(s) - extender, in this case
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I have tried that several times, could I be missing something?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know how this got on my computer, but I think I have a new favorite output font: https://i.imgur.com/ellp0I7.png
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when he's back on, someone should check to see if Gregor might still be using Winkle's original S&D with an ancient MUSHclient...back when it used the date field in the mapper database...that could cause the error he's seeing
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: seems likely
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: he ought to just upgrade to 1.3.3
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or stop using s&d
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but he needs to know about it
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: kekeke
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or that ;-)
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: The whole "S&D ruins exploration" desn't hold water
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You need to explore and fill out your mapper for it to even work at all.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If the area needs cexits, you need to identify those and set them up
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: what is s&d ?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If the area needs keys, you need to get them - you need to know where to get them.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: something abelinc keeps in his basement
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is evil script that turns innocent players into cp/gq bots :P
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't say it ruins exploration. I say that taking away player decisions in favor of automating decisions ruins the experience of the game world
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So "S&D kills exploration" is patently false.  It might make people pay less attention, but that is an entirely different argument
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is your mom telling stories again, pleiades?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my argument has nothing to do with exploration, I just don't like when a tool removes the need to make decisions
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: And I disagree with that too, Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't need everyone to agree with me. But you asked why
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: S&D has enhanced my experience, not taken away from it.  Are you going to tell me I'm wrong?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Oh, wait.  I'm Starling.  I'm damned AND wrong, I forgot.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes in the same way that a cheat code enhances your fun for a short time but ultimately leaves the experience empty
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm going to tell you you're wrong, yes
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It isn't a cheat code, and it isn't cheating.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like to recall the information when doing cps/gqs/quests verses having automation.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cheat codes are things that make you stop needing to care about making decisions to succeed. s&d does the same
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: And I'm going to tell you screw you.  I don't have time for this.  Good day.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it is as much as cheat code as most cheat codes are...
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cap'n Gus Grimvald grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i thought search and destroy with autohunt was automatically on the new downloads of mush
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You thought wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: finger starlilng
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: starling*
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: S&D will never be part of the MUSH download.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hehehe
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: hehehehe
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: hehehehehe
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i think im going to rmeove my old search and destroy and install this one!
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: should be able to just overwrite it
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: need all three of the files right? the 3 xml's there
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea just unzip and copy, then install the plugin from inside mush (or reinstall if you already have it running)
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: the one i had in my plugins were different ones, there were like version 2.0
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: version doesnt matter, only filename of the main xml
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: didnt overwite so i have to remove the old ones and put this one in
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Does anyone know how to reset the Aard client layout to default?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Should probably get changed to 'aard layout reset' to match the lock and unlock commands
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: perfect!
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: or even just 'aard reset' or something
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and a help command that shows helpful usages
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Resetaard worked!
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Jeez, making a pull request for that seems silly but I bet Fiendish would like one
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the help command? for me thats pretty much standard, i build one into any command that has multiple usages
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, I'm saying the suggestion is good. I'm just too damn lazy to clone the repo and make a pull request for it
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that way if you are like "wait how do i do that 'aard' command again? oh yea 'aard help' will tell me"
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea agreed
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im not touching aardmush repo :p
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Thanks for all the help guys!
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Glad you got it working :)
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: any time Kalvothe
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i think ill just note fiendish, he has something else i want anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I will readily accept a pull request for an 'aard help' command that covers important basics
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just figure out which plugin it goes in
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (or make a new one, I suppose)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can turn the echo off completely, but I'm unsure why you'd want a line appearing each time you type a letter
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what an idea
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it was a misunderstanding :P Their input bar was hidden, we misinterpreted the question :P
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: We did find a bug though, where resetaard (possible on a small monitor) still caused the input bar to be maximized outside the screen bounds.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Is it a known issue, or should I find repro steps?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think resetaard changes the placement of the input bar?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suppose it might
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it changes the size of the main window which can affect the placement of the input bar
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it does, eh?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not for me
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I've just been corrected :P
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't change the main window at all, which was his issue
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That was the only window he needed to change, and it wasn't :P
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, but that's probably best fixed at the Windows level
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just something that came up on newbie
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll see what I can do
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thanks for letting me know
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Is the right place to ask an upgrade question?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: poke Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber pokes Long Time Fiendish in the ribs.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's exactly the right place
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I got a notice that Mush has an update, and I ignored it because I want to know if there's a process. What should I backup, move, whatever. 
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go to my website
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it explains
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Thanks, fiendish. :)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'll probably be most interested in important info point #3
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Oh, you're right up the road from us. Well, unless you've never lived in the midwest. Then you might think 90 minutes is basically international travel. lol
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I just installed this with wine on Arch and crossed my fingers. If you're reading this message, it worked. lol
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I use it in wine
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it works. and it also works without install (the zip version, for better control of the 'folder') :)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I try to steer people away from the old unzip method because it's prone to mistakes
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Well, then.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if he can use it on wine, he can take care of a backup :) or should.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can make a backup either way, but the installer is just faster and easier
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I came in here about a month ago asking vague questions about lua. When I switched from tintin to mush, I had all of the answers.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the installer doesn't leave any system artifacts or anything. it's just making sure to only replace code files and not configuration files
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well if you ever have more questions about Lua, here's a pretty good place to get them answered
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Awesome.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: TT++ > Mush
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wolfhoundjes falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I just right-clicked the option "In case of emergency" from teh right-click menu of the status bars. What did I do? 
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: is Level3 having any issues today?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: oh nevermind looks like Comcast is having nationwide issues.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: Oh, is that why my connection is so horrible?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: probably
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: And just as I say that my connection goes back to normal
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wolfhoudnjes: nothing major. just shrinks the bar
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah Cheeze, but tf > TT++ }:>
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (an hour late)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: how do you get rid of {rdesc} and {/rdesc} whenever i 'look'.  I tried tags off, and that does get rid of them, but then my ascii map stops working.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: There's a list of tags you can turn off independently.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: please don't though
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Type 'tags' with no arguments to see them...
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try reloading your ascii map plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it's been like that for few days.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I think he just wants rdesc turned off, Fiendish. Nothing of yours, that I know of, utilizes those tags.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I've closed mush, and restarted it before to fix that kind of thing
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the ascii map does for an obscure reason
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ah, I'm thinking roomchars, not rdesc, heh.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is my favorite kind of bug report
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i reinstalled and still there.  
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the one that happened days ago
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader: type 'checkversion' plz
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or don't, you know, whatever
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Hey Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hi there Amya
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok. i removed ascii plug in, then typed tags off, and that gets rid of those tags, but when i reinstall the plug in, the tags come back.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: negader: type 'checkversion' please
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i'm using old ones. r1802.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Where you series when you told me to put together some stuff for a tracker and you would look at it
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well boy howdy do I have good news and bad news
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i say ones in plural, i have another one. and that doesn't do that.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Amya: I try not to lie to people, yes
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: oops serious
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader: luckily for you the upgrade process is now painless
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If you do not wish to upgrade, tell me if your prompt ends in %c
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you do wish to upgrade, do that and skip my previous request
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok. does the new ones, not upgrade by self?  cus i don't want that.  
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thank you, I will do that tomorrow.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the in-place self updater never really worked out
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can type 'p data' to see if it ends in %c.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it has an installer now that should work for everyone
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: my regular game prompt ends with >%c
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: arcidayne true but it's the most reliable trigger breaker
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader: I think you should upgrade and see if the problem is fixed. I don't exactly understand the intent of your question about "does the new ones, not upgrade by self?" but I hope I've answered it
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so, does it auto-upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, never
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yes and no.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You have to download the installer and run it.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it automatically checks for new versions but it doesn't automatically install anything
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But it'll write the new files that need to be written over (or added to)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I feel like we're answering different questions
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unfortunately I don't know which one of us is answering the right one
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It seems like it. I'm answering under the pretense that he's asking about the installer being an automatic upgrade. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, it kinda is
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it's not going to run itself
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader: let's start over, yeah? 
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i want to install it.  and  i don't want it to install something by itself.  i guess that i rather want to control what i want to upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, I'm giving full information in the next message
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader: go to my website (finger fiendish) and see what it says. There are two ways to update. One way is easier. One way gives you more control.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok i see two download options.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the installer is easier, because it upgrades code files without changing configuration settings or saved data. but the old unzip method is still there
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (technically if you look around more you'll see 4 download options)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: In my opinion, there's no reason NOT to use the installer.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no matter how you choose to upgrade, please quit mushclient first
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so, you understand what i'm looking for, which link is best for me? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I *think* that I understand that you want the old .zip archive and not an installer that automatically chooses which files to update?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: nod fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go to https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/unzip_upgrading.html
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you are VI and use a screen reader, you might want the download on the left. otherwise you will want the download on the right
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Negader: What exactly are you not wanting to upgrade? Really, all that the installer does is write the newer core files, does not touch any of your stuff (so settings, triggers, plugins, aliases, etc. remain the same). The only thing that really changes are the core files and the application version itself.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I suppose that if you're VI and use a screen reader then left and right might not be so helpful
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe someone who knows better can help me with that one
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok thank you. i think you've helped me.  i will give it a shot with the one you suggested.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, if you've modified my plugins, those will get replaced
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Just a note, though. With the upgrade, if you're using S&D, you'll need to get the fix from either Nokfah or Starling.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is why I tell people not to do that
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you're going to modify core files, then just create your own plugin. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I'll be honest...I'm surprised to hear that the ascii map in 1803 was enabling rdesc tags
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think I added that until later
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this almost sounds like a mixed up install
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bits from here and there
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok looks good guys. thank you for your help.   You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1944
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yay
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: so some areas aren't triggering valid runtos in s&d, how would i go about fixing these?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: as usual u need describe cexit for enter in area
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i got it figured out, thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freddie Tech: HELP!! I have been transferring files from one computer to another and have lost all my explored areas on the mapper. ANyone know what I have mucked up, or what I am missing? Thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: you should be able to port over your db file and it should fix it.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freddie Tech: oh right WHats the db file called and where will I find it?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: it should be called 'aardwolf.db' in your mushclient folder. you will have backups in the 'aardwolf db backups' folder if you can't find it
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freddie Tech: ok thatnks I'll have look!! Cheers M!!
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freddie Tech: hey guys - sorry to bother you - I have forgotten - what is the file/s that let you type cpc and click on it to do the cps?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: WinkleWinkle_Search_Destroy.xml ?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freddie Tech: I'll try that thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: does the semicolon used in the game side alias get prempted by the clinet? the game side doesn't seem to want to recognize multiple commands in an alias
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You have to double them up to use them.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: alias test say one;;say two;;say three
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Or you can start the line with a semicolon and just use one.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ;alias test say one;say two;say three
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: many thnaks
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: How do i enable the botmode?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think we already know the answer
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You have to ask Lasher that question. He's the only one with that special command.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just press numpad 0 once you added hook for that key
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Pfft, like my bot was in Mush :P
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but having mushclient sources avail, it would be theoretical possible to rewrite mush in something more portable
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Wouldn't matter. You wrote it. It'd fail in any client. *srun*
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not likely
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think if you rewrote mushclient to be more portable, it would need to end up being at least a little bit different
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I thought about using QT ?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however I wonder whethet it is possible to do that in small steps
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there is in theory some kind of conversion tool that might get part of the way there
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: even if you had the source trying to rewrite it all in QT would be a nightmare. Projectst aht don't start with consdieration for portability will often never have any.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH for PC without Windows or Mac one can just use Wine 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: Aye, works just fine in wine for me
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and it does work rather well in wine
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and I am not really sure whether QT version could be easily ported to Android
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I believe there is an experimental wine for android
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you still need an x86 cpu
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know why
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably for dlls
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in the past Wine was just using dlls, and WINE Is Not Emulator
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it at least means you could use mushclient on an intel chromebook though
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it just executes code natively, or something like that
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or something like that
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also "clients" shows that there are just 20 or less phone players
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I am playing on my rotary phone
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that such rewrite should be added to Dead Ideas :P
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH having mush for Android could attract more phone players to mud
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'd need an entirely different program
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing about how mushclient works would make sense on a phone
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I guess if you strip away the entire UI, only allow plugins and no world aliases or triggers, then you could end up with something like blowtorch that supports most of the MUSHclient API
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that could be pretty neat
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd love for someone to take on that project
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is blowtorch open source ?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: it's abandonware
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know. You could message Nocilis and ask.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: abandonware is not a real legal category
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume he wouldn't mind freeing the source if someone were interested.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: given that he wasn't monetizing blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: hmm, maybe it would be an interesting from scratch project to do a mud client otherwise... 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think any new client should try to implement as much of the commonly used MUSHclient API as possible
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as I have 0 android knowledge I wonder whether it is possible to have common "core" mush for both Android and PC
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: but the MUSH api has gross syntax
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the syntax is fine except for the australian spelling of Color
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's possible Trachx, but it would require maintaining 3 projects. The core, the desktop, and the mobile
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is not realistic
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, considering most of the functionality is in the core (or plugins - depending on the approach), having two visual interfaces would probably be the easy part
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there are only 2 real deficiencies in mushclient. Miniwindows functions are too low level without a higher level interface, and text substitution is hard to get generically right.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Or the core could simply take a HTML page defining the layout.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've just about solved the second one
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: miniwindow functions are still too low level
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any other problems with mushclient are because of not having the greatest documentation for things like what number are you supposed to send_to in a plugin trigger if you want to send to world
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then a few minor technical deficiencies that could easily be corrected, like not being able to overlay hotspots and have both receive signals
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (this is why the health bars can't be dragged from inside the gauges)
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I never liked the integer magic there. There didn't appear to be a curried mapping anywhere to refer to by strings, it was just a "well...know it"
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The XML uses magic strings elsewhere, not sure why they didn't add support for send_to="world", etc
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh yeah, the XML chain is another thing that isn't documented well about plugins.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I had a bug earlier this year where I had to change "%c" to "%%c", because apparently %c in the trigger XML <send> section is replaced with the contents of the clipboard
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, I remember that one. I think I was the one who pointed it out. Was super weird.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Wait, it literally inserts the clibpoard register?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Lmfao, that's hillarious
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger . o O ( Seems like a potential sanitization issue )
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Does MUSH have a clipboard API?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It does.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can set things to the Clipboard, and pull things from it.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So they must use %c as a magic substitution to do that
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Maybe. I haven't looked deeply into the functions, though.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's a VI throwback :P https://wiki.vifm.info/index.php?title=How_to_copy_path_to_current_file/directory_to_system_clipboard
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I wonder why S&D added the resize widget, but didn't implement resizing.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Maybe it was a feature he planned on adding, but never did?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: so how is the new update going --last time I did it took me hours to try and correct the problems which didn't correct.  So I went back to old version
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Starling's done a pretty good job of maintaining it.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Thanks, Arcidayne.  I'd forgotten Starling was maintaining it.  I'll try out the new version, although, looking at the code, it also doesn't appear to implement resizing.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: maybe I'll make some changes >.>
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: submit changes back to maintainer rather than yet another version out there though :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starling's still figuring out how to implement some stuff...but while it may not resize, it *should* prevent you from getting it offscreen like people used to do all the time (requiring xset reset gui to fix)
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Oh, don't worry.  Fragmentation over the presence of resizing functionality would be ridiculous.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone used a wifi repeater for game consoles? my wifi doesn't quite reach well enough to my bedroom where my ps4 is, and running an ethernet cable is not easily done without it looking like crap, so curious how well these repeaters work
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: How far is your bedroom from the router?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Gameplay is often better wired anyway.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: As in, WiFi<-->WiFi<-->Console (wireless connection)?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: they work pretty well, though they will cut your bandwidth in half. might be worth looking in to a powerline adapter.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: not for a gaming system but I use it for our wifi TV.....workes pretty well..only thing that annoys me is every once in a while I have to reestablish the link for it to work.....bandwidth hurts thought
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: its probably 50 feet, and 3 walls between the two
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Doubt it's 50 feet. Most houses are barely 50 feet wide.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: a mesh wifi system is great but costly...fixes the lost of speed issue though you experience with a repeater
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I know wired is optimal, I'm looking for asthetics and function
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I was very unimpressed with wifi repeater, but was using it to stream music. powerline extenders worked better for me, lower bandwidth wasn't much of an issue, connection more stable
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I have a mesh system right now
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: now do you like that Pleiades....been thining about upgrading based on the setup being more optimal for deadzones etc
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: how rather*
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I wouldn't use a repeater for console. I'd suck it up and run the ethernet along the baseboards. It won't look like crap, especially if you tether it down.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do like it
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Is there insulation, or lots of metal between the rooms?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I bought google's system
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: brick house, lots of concrete
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but it works well
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I used to run 25 feet of Ethernet just to play my system wired in either my bedroom or the living room. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: installation easy enough?  stable connection no matter where ya are etc? 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah, I havent had any problems
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you can access it remotely
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: my main router before that was a dark knight
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: the one just called google mesh wifi? 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I just like how easy this is
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you can buy 1 or 3
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: its only 125?  or have to add more to it? 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: https://store.google.com/product/google_wifi
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: that's for oen
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: is that the cost for each connection point? 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: one*
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: a 3-pack is $289
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I definitely don't regret the purchase
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I had to step out mid converversation, sorry about that, however, its not just a matter of running it along the baseboards, I either need to drill holes in the wall and run it along the exterior wall outside, which includes over my front door, or along base boards accross several doorways and stairs  to get it to my bedroom. 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Have you thought about rebooting the system?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: My gateway?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: definitely
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I have not recently, but my phone and laptop pick up enough wifi down there to work perfectly fine, the playstation even works enough to use for netflix pretty reliably, just cant get enough for gaming. 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: resetaard isnt working ! Help !
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: "there is no layout within aardwolf"
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: or try just closing your browser and if it ask if want to save say no
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ok, maybe a dumb question - are you using Mushclient? If so, are you using the Aardwolf package of mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'd imagine they'd have to be in order to get the error message of 'there is no layout in aardwolf'
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That sounds more like a social failing to find a target.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: yes, no. I have just found a download of the package and will try that, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, but aardreset isn't a social, and there would have to be a target of layout.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Question... Are you typing aardreset by itself? not aardreset layout, just aardreset
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: aardreset
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: aardreset
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: aardreset That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: did you try closing and reopening your browser, or if most of your windows are from bast's plugins you can try plugins reset bast
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: not aardreset, do resetaard
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Wait, you just said you're not using the Aardwolf MUSHclient... aardreset doesn't work on vanilla Aard...
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ah yeah, resetaard. I don't even use that command myself.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: ok, thank, got it working
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: what got it working?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Probably resetaard. Haha.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: lol which I said when he first asked, i said xset resetaard then corrected myself to not use xset
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: lol LIke I never listen to advise and follow it, no no not me I wouldnt do that
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Problem solved with the internet connection for those who were helping me earlier, had a bit of a "DOH" moment and solved all my problems rather simply lol
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Care to share how?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I moved my gateway into the bedroom :P
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: computer closer to router?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ps4 is.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That was his aim.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: nod arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: and computers all work fine at the same distance the ps4 would not
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: actually hardwired the ps4 since its right next to it, so its as good as it gets, 150mb/s download speeds
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I couldn't get a solid 1l
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: clearly the PS4 built in wifi adapter isn't as good as a laptop, my laptop still getting 15 mb/s which is plenty 
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: what spellup plugin do you guys recommend for mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: the bast one
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: why is my s&d spamming "min max: 0 300" at me every time i take a campaign?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats the exact message?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yes, without the quotes
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: also doing it upon killing anyone in the cp list
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: does it like 23 times
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: wis there an easy way to get the item id of an item you remove ?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: invmon I think
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: i can use that, is there a way to check if its enabled ?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Well, Abelinc. I found the time and made the change I wanted.  Thanks for suggesting I submit back...I've never actually used Git before, so that was interesting!
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I wonder what Starling will think, haha
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: Guys is there a way to check if invmon is enabled or not through a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: hmm, one way is to send the tag command twice to enable invmon. then have a trigger to capture if it's on.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: its not listed in tag though
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: guess he means, toggle invmon....if it returns the off message, resend it, if it returns the on message....well its on, so there you go
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: that could work however i don't see an enable message for some reason
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: have to track the plugin that omits it i guess
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello hello. mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Can you make the borders on mushclient pink? No, wait. Salmon. Chartreuse. Ugh, I can't decide.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so the only way to get access to wildcards[0] is to call a function from my alias? I can't do it all self contained in the alias send to itself?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Might help if you give an example/snippet of what you're actualy doing
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: just to make an alias that has access to all supplied parameters so I can echo it back as a test currently
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: for instance if you wanted to make an alias that replaced gossip command (you don't know how many params will be supplied)
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: basicaly work as a macro for gossip?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: sortof again this was just an example I just want to be able to type alias blah blah blah and have access to the "blah blah blah" data
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You're being vague, and it's not helpful.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so I was asking if it's necessary to make a seperate function my alias calls or if there's a more elegant way to get the information within the alias itself
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: search for %0 on https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=aliases
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I don't know how I could be more clear?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You could tell us precisely what you're trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Fiendish problem with %0 is it includes the alias itself, I would have to string manipulate to remove it
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Arcid: If you scroll up I've explained what I'm trying to do several times
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it is extremely basic
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Rather this way, is it important to seperate each word/string/whatever really into its own 'parameter?'
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's easy enough to do.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ie: if I type myalias blah blah 1 2 3 and use %0 it will give me "myalias blah blah 1 2 3" but what I really want is the arguments only "blah blah 1 2 3" I was told I could do this using wildcards[0] but I have to build a seperate function to do so unless I am misunderstanding the docs
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Pwar: So what you're trying to do is take (for example) say one two three and have it do say one, say two, say three?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: because if you do "Alias Gos *' then what ever is after gossip is inclused in the '%1'
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at MidKnight Gladacus.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it's not though Gladacus
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: %1 only returns the first argument
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No it doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you don't have regex set, then it returns everything after gossip.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: it returns the entire string
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Now if you had gossip * * *, then yes, %1 will only return the first argument.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They're correct. Alias of "^gossip (.*?)^" would match everything you send, by referring to %1
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well that is weird I must have been using a regex before because %1 wasn't doing more than one arg
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well except the last "^" would be  "$"
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then you had it matching non whitespace characters only
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: * or (.*?) will match everything until the end of the line
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: very strange thanks though, I couldn't understand why it was so difficult to reference just the args when aliases are basically designed for that purpose!
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You must have had another * in there
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Because MUSH dictates that they be non-greedy, it'll match 1 character (or any number until a space) and then %2 would be all the rest
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: if you want sometthing with 2 args....can just add some form of divider between the two....eg "example *, *"....
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Alias: "testAlias * *" --> "testAlias gossip testing a long phrase" would result in %1 = "gossip" %2 = "testing a long phrase"
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: so a double *,makes the previous one match from begging of line/last whitespace to end of line/next whitespace?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So you need to read it in reverse.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The first one matches until the 2nd one matches, and the 2nd one matches anything
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The only stipulation is that they are separated by a space "* *", so once it reaches that space, the first one is done, and the second one takes the rest.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So....* * * Matching one two three four....%1 = one, %2 = two and %3 = three four?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: nice to know
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The only reason this works is because MUSH converts "*" to the non-greedy regex of "(.*?)"
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if it converted it to simply "(.*)" i think the functionality would be that %1 would have everything period
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmm I am trying to reload my script as I work on it and shift+control+r and the menu bar option "Reload Script File" do not seem to accomplish it, I have to reload mush atm. Am I doing it wrong or is it because I'm in wine maybe?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: man someone make a scrabble word finder for aard so i can put in ALL my tiles
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: all these sites only let you put in 12 letters
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i found one
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: any idea why s&d is returning "Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error." when cp checking?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: any help with s&d?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Click the thing.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: (In other words, need way more info)
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: obviously :) getting the error Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error. when i cp check
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's not the problem, that's just the symptom. Reinstall the plugin and try again, and watch for the real error.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: For me it was a missing date column.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: did that repeatedly now, haven't seen any other symptoms
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're getting errors about date being missing, you're using a VERY old version of S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: it installs just fine, but won't populate a list, just repeats that error
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: in mush how do I make my last sent command stay in the window
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Press alt-0, check "Auto Repeat Command" box on the right
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: any other ideas metria as for how to debug this thing? figure out what the problem is?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: S&D?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error. when i cp check
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Maruxus it sounds like you have an old version of s&d
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I had a similar issue
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nope...just got the newest update
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: did you reinstall the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yes i reinstalled it, repeatedly
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nothing interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Which version do you have? v2.8 or v1.3.3?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: 1.3.3
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: is that 'xcp_index_line' exactly what it referenced?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: copy/paste
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: When you say you've reinstalled it, how are you doing that?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: plugins screen, reinstall, worked fine, plugins screen, remove, add, worked fine, rinse and repeat so i could verify
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And you don't get a different error?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that's the only error
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you try restarting mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I was thinking of the GUI (spent a lot of facetime with that code recently, lol)
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: a few times
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: can we upgrade to tier 2 customer support?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: are you removing all three when you try to reinstall it?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure, pay me a few TP and you can contact WinkleWinkle for support. (He's actually tier 2)  Unfortunatley he's been offline for 503 days :P
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that i didn't do...one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: mwah! it was something in the extender, well played ylar
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: yeah, the xcp_index_line seemed weird, til I parsed the other two and realized it was the extender
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: ahh, you weren't just guessing
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: more like grepping
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I made a joke
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you may receive a survey from us tomorrow, to evaluate Metria's helpfulness
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: tier 1 tech support, aok, 3/5
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Came up with the right answer first try (reinstall the plugin) 5/5  User didn't reinstall correct plugin, 5 TP fee assessed
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: lol metria, we'll go half way 4/5, didn't think to mention reinstalling all three, i did reinstall the plugin i thought was having problems
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'll take it :D
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: who wants to help me with something?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: What ya need?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I need an aardwolf mushclient package user to drop these three dlls in a copy of their mushclient folder https://ci.appveyor.com/project/fiendish/lua-openssl/build/artifacts
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then edit MUSHclient\lua\async.lua to import llthreads2 instead of llthreads
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then start up that mushclient and make sure it loads
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: I'll give it a whirl.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: So far, so good.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: baller
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: anything I should be keeeping an eye out for?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: is there an easy way to iterate through a string character by character in lua?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: none of these examples work, i get '=' expected near <eof> on every one
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: not even going to pretend like I know what you're talking about...
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kash, still here?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: oh Fiendish. i still have the old mush from 2 years ago but just in case - i had a crash and this ruined my plugins somehow. is the newest build safe against crashes?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define "safe against crashes". If you mean less likely to crash? Then I would say probably yes.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thought to get the new version but didn't have the time today again:)
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: updating to the newest version is a much simpler process than the old ones
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no, win crashed. and took mush with it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh, I see
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's unfortunate
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure that MUSHclient can do much to help with that
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yeah.. dunno. my win crashes in each 3 days or so but this time it mush couldnt handle. so, whatever happened, its rare.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: crashing every 3 days is very extreme
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i have an ancient soundcard. no updates for drivers. 
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: have you checked to see if maybe some hardware driver has an update available?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nuts
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that sounds like a hardware failure or corrupt windows files
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it could be all kinds of things
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I once had a hard drive cable that had...somehow...mysteriously come just exactly loose enough to sometimes disconnect from vibrations by the fan
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: that must of been pain to fix:)
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: must HAVE*
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: damn
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: when windows start crashing that often, its possible your hard drive is going bad
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i dont have proof but my guts tell me its the sound card:)
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it sometimes switches the input order and sometimes start to produce weird noises also
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: celebrity: if that's the case, disable your sound card complete in device manager, if it still crashes it is highly unlikely it is the soundcard
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if you can go without sound for a bit to narrow it down that is
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i will do that when going to buy a new one some day. 
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: my money would be on bad harddrive, bad ram, or corrupt windows files
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: my wifi service in my hotel room is awful. how do you guys fix it? is it something as simple as getting a room closer to the repeater?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zhalut: you can't always fix that
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: by awful. 400ms pings to google.com
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yuck
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: overused routers is often the problem
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I know that feeling zhalut :(
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sometimes hotels just don't have enough capacity for the number of tenants
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh good point. maybe bandwidth. i feel like it got faster when i moved in the room
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can of course try asking for a different room, but your computer/phone should give a reasonably reliable indicator of the signal strength to noise ratio
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I'm in the room down the hall downloading torrents
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and if it says you have a strong signal but it's not working, then moving probably won't help
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: okit must be bandwidth then :( i was surprised to see a text-based game run slow
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: will going wired increase speed? i have to buy an adapter to test it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: almost always
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: A lot of times, routers sort of throttle the speed. For instance, I had 60Mbps plan, but on my router, I was seeing 25Mbps.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Once I wired it, though, I got the full 60.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: who here wants to help me with something
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sup?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: drop these DLLs in a copy of your mushclient folder and then edit MUSHclient\lua\sync.lua to import "llthreads2" instead of "llthreads" https://ci.appveyor.com/project/fiendish/lua-openssl/build/artifacts
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then see if it starts up without errors
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also maybe do a package update check
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: haven't got a lua\sync.lua
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type checkversion please
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'll do it. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Is it 'sync.lua' or 'async.lua'?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: async
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Okay, will test it in just a second, then.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: pfft, async i have
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: hold on
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: hm...couple startup errors but this is it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: Invalid recoveries line:36,Sacrifice
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: Invalid recoveries line: ,0
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: could be unrelated
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: probably is
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does that happen often?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i've got some bast plugins here
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: idk, lemme see if it's doing it on the other version
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: didn't get those errors here
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: so it was your change
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: wierd eh
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you try restarting it?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sure, i'll do it again
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: same exact two errors on startup, one second
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I didn't get any errors on my end.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Gonna test my Melvin plugin that utilizes async, too.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, no error, gonna restart just to double check.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Working perfectly fine.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: oh, my mistake, think i've fixed it, one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh good
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maruxus your os version is?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: wine on ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: and no..didn't fix it, still same two errors
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: idk
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well I don't think this has anything to do with recoveries triggers, so I'm going to call it unrelated
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: oh wait...that looks like bast's spellup font though
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: alright, done with test?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thank you both
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if I can find someone who still uses XP
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Too bad there's not an "os list" like we have for clients and domains.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it would be pretty handy. I wonder if I can detect it and send it with the client string
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't see why not.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: \\\print(GetInfo(77))
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Came up blank for me.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok let's try the next ones
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: Keep up the good work Fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: \\\print(GetInfo(265)) through \\\print(GetInfo(268))
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: 6, 2, 9200, 2, in order.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. docs say that should be windows 8
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'm on Windows 10, so... :\
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: you can spin a vm with xp if you wish. nice guide here http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-windows-xp-for-free-and-legally-straight-from-microsoft-si/
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I am aware
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I dislike downloading and keeping around many gigabytes of otherwise useless VMs for things like this
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the windows 10 VMs are like 20GB
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Eh, I'd just run it off a USB, barebones.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I was running Windows XP, Windows 7, 8, and 10 off a USB drive for a while.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: There's even MiniXP.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh for crying out loud
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "Windows 1010.0*"
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "* For applications that have been manifested for Windows 8.1 or Windows 10. Applications not manifested for Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 will return the Windows 8 OS version value (6.2)."
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wtf
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Good god MSFT, get it together
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I think it's because it's the same architecture. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Still using quite an old S&D script in a old-ish mush release....anything that you need to type to 'start' the script? As is, gives me an error when trying to to run somewhere via it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now I just have to figure out how to make a manifest from the command line
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: an error is usually a sign that you might benefit from upgrading
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Lol, kinda used my firewall to block all but mush....tends to eat through 100 mbs of data within 2 seconds if i drop it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: have you tried to unplug and plug in your power cable?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 100mbs in 2 seconds sounds like there is some other big issue on your computer!
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: to copy error -> Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8 (called from world: Aardwolf)  Function/Sub: xrun_to called by alias   Reason: processing alias ""  no such column: r.date_added
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I like that people are still encountering that because of how long they go between upgrades
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: when it works it works
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that error goes away if you upgrade
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "You should not rely upon only the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS flag to determine whether Small Business Server has been installed on the system."
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "If you upgrade this installation to Windows Server, Standard Edition, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS_RESTRICTED flag will be clearedhowever, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS flag will remain set. In this case, this indicates that Small Business Server was once installed on this system. "
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "If you upgrade this installation to Windows Server, Standard Edition, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS_RESTRICTED flag will be clearedhowever, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS flag will remain set. In this case, this indicates that Small Business Server was once installed on this system. "
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Meh, got a 'newer' version of mush lying around somewhere in there
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's weird. for some reason pasting that line crashes mushclient for me
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume it's a wine bug
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but now I have to test.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus peers intently at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well...any quick way to get that script to work?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: update it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well...damn.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if I copy and paste a particular line out of firefox into mushclient, it crashes. if I paste it into vs code first and then copy that and paste it into mushclient then it's fine
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone want to test something for me?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: what you need fiendish one?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go to https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms724833(v=vs.85).aspx
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then copy the sentence that starts "If you upgrade..."
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, copy that sentence and the next one also
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then paste them into a channel here
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: If you upgrade this installation to Windows Server, Standard Edition, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS_RESTRICTED flag will be clearedhowever, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS flag will remain set. In this case, this indicates that Small Business Server was once installed on this system. If this installation is further upgraded to Windows Server, Enterprise Edition, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS flag will remain set.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: still have that version with the new DLLs sitting around?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: just restored
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: what's up?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think it could be the replacement lua dll causing the crash, and that makes me sad
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I don't understand why it makes a difference where I copy from
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: different clipboards behaving slightly differently?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Meh, love it....somehow, update snd....error goes away but cp targets for some reason, aint showing in miniwin
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I need a mushclient user on windows 10 again
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: who was saying they had a script to find all your portals and put them into mapper portals for you?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: neat script
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: might like to see that one
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: someone has one im sure of it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Never seen it.  The time to make it is probably more than the time to just manually add them, especially for someone who already has most in them :)  YOu could use my equipment plugin to get halfway there though.  Can grab a list of all the portals from teh spreadsheet and save a bit of work.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Make sure to use an alias for wear/unwearing portal though, and have that alias be called by mapper portal.  Saves a lot of trouble!
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think there is a guide on how to do that somewhere.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah, that's definitely easiest way
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea i do, i just thought someone was saying they had made that script at some point. i dont need it its for a friend
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill just do them manually
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: anyone got the trigger line for invdata lying around?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: help invdata
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Was more looking for regexp
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: match="^{invdata\s*(?&lt
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: [0-9]{10},[KMGH]*,(.*?),[0-9]{1,3},[0-9]{1,2},[0-9],-?[0-9],-?[0-9]
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: [match="^{invdata\s*(?&lt
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ;; to send ;
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ACK
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So....does that work with the usual %1 %2 sytem?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you wrap the parts in ()
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So how would that look?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Revisiting the old portal script i started like a year or two ago
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ([0-9]{10}),([KMGH]*),(.*?),([0-9]{1,3}),([0-9]{1,2}),([0-9]),(-?[0-9]),(-?[0-9])
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amazonite passes out...
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And honestly that regex is strict enough you shouldn't need to trigger/detrigger off of {invdata} {/invdata}
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Just gonna gag the tags either way
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I mean you could also just do *,*,*,*,*,*,*,*, but that's much less strict :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: but if all else fails, its a good place holder and how many lines ever have so many ',s'
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: invmon stuff would probably trigger the less strict one :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: amusingly, that did not match when i pasted it into a trigger
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm not guaranteeing it 100%, i whipped that up on the fly :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Something is a miss in there, lol, didnt even match 1 item out of the 50+ i have loose in inv
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: let me try again :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Oh wait, I found it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: change "10" to "9"
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i mis-counted the number of digits in objectId
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: still something out, lol
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, matched for me :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: can I get the line again?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ^([0-9]{9,10}),([KMGH]*),(.*?),([0-9]{1,3}),([0-9]{1,2}),([0-9]),(-?[0-9]),(-?[0-9])$
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Matched every time for me doing {9,10} for the object ID
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: missed the start and end symbols
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Even caused a segfault because I stupidly did #showme %0
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: likely that was the issue
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Shouldn't have mattered. Those just say line has to start there, and end there
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They make it more strict, not less
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: meh
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: helps if i tick regexp
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: oh, yeah, that'll help :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: still, some random exceptions....
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Got a specific one?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: like my horn of the ancestors, jewelery box, a skinned cloak
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I mean the invdata line, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: 2356164,KMGH,a Jewelry Box,190,20,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, that should match
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Your jewelry box is OLD
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it has less objectID digits
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So maybe for safety change {9,10} to {7,10}
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's why you use \d+...
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nah, stricter regexp == better
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not always.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: another example 1637579985,KIM,a black flowing robe of Death,199,7,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Besides, object ids can have only 1 digit.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: damn that dark blue colour code
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ok, just change {9,10} to *
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's rare, but it's still an option.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And when 10 digits run out, you move on to 11 digits.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nods, he just posted an 11 digit
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: isnt it more of that (*?) type then?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So in this case, yeah just open the regex up for the id
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nah, you literally just change "{9,10}" to "*"
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: that cleared some, but still some mismatches, lol
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: 1356169582,KIM,a sequined mask,100,6,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, we can discount the object id being too long or short at least :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: kmgh needs i
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, good catch
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Yeah, thats the common denominator here
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Someone should make a regexp db somewhere for these moment
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: so change ([KGHM]*) to ([KGHMI]*)
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: yeah, that nailed it fully
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: as a random tester, had it printing item ids and gagging the actual invdata, made it easy to see the odd ones
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: anyone want to help try out my new plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any windows 10 mushclient user around want to help me with something?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: how demanding is it?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not very
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok, whats up?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: first, type \\\print(GetInfo(265))
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 6
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: great. ok, make a copy of your mushclient folder, and replace MUSHclient.exe in it with this one https://ci.appveyor.com/api/buildjobs/8v3usy25odq7o70v/artifacts/MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm... lol
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then start up that mushclient and do the same
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 10
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: too many mushclients open
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: is that it? that mushclient did not like my plugins AT ALL
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: OR my mapper db :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why, what did it say?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: script parsing errors and then db integrity check failed
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish whistles appreciatively.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: show me one of the script errors
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: can of worms, anyone?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the db error I'm not worried about because you probably copied the folder while mushclient was open
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it was a dialog box that said Line 77: Script parsing error something something else
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Wht does the GetInfo(265) number represent?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: major version number for the OS
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: wasnt very descriptive
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hearb Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it didnt even say what script
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but windows 10 misreports its version info if the application requesting it doesn't have a manifest
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is stupid but fixable
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and windows defender didnt like that mushclient either :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: is that intentional for like some sort of cheezy backwards compat?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pwar: It's intentional. I honestly have no idea why
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm more interested in hearing about what windows defender did
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: was it just a "this is from the internet" warning?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nah chrome did that one
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lemme see if its in the log
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Trojan//Fiendish.Win32 detected?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: haha nah it was just a generic message
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ;D
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i can open it again and see it might do it again
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe try quitting mushclient before making the folder copy? that should get rid of some of your messages
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i did :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, I'm encouraged to hear that you got 10 instead of 6 on the replacement
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i didnt even copy the folder just closed mush, copied new one and started it
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because 10 is what you _should_ be getting, which means my manifest worked
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea Line 77: Script parsing error (Cannot load) was the exact error, there was about 15 of them
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll need more of the message than that
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats all there was, it was a dialog box and thats every word it said
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: is it possible mushclient.exe is running from the wrong folder or something?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it depends
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i kept a copy of that .exe so i can look into it more later but would want to actually make a copy of my mush folder before i do
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: did the database format change since 4.98?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 4.98 is not a meaningful value
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I deal only in package revisions
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well i dont remember how to get the aardmush build
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im on r1825
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the database format changed last in...uhh...
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i want to say it was changed right before this version
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: or fairly shortly before
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but idk if its been changed since since i never update
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish is really good about the mapper script being able to update absolutely ancient database files
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't load a new db file in an older MUSH package version (since it wouldn't understand anything), but an old mapper db file should just update the db schema on first load in a newer MUSH package version
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait, why do we need to know when it last changed?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i was wondering if thats why it failed integrity
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the integrity check is a pragma that has nothing to do with table layout
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm, then idk why it would have failed :(
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you copied your mushclient folder?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i copied the exe into my mushclient folder :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: after making a backup of the old exe
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what did you do with your old one?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you used your old folder but put in the new exe?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and you moved the old exe somewhere safe
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and you got a bunch of errors??
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well that's pretty bad
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: integrity check and the script parse error, but that could have just been one thing maybe?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mmmmm
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't thiiiiink so?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk it popped up like 15 times and never said a filename or anything
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: did you compile this from source?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the source hasn't changed. it's the same source as your old one, just with a manifest embedded
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: does it work properly on non win10?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: really? how big is this manifest?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ive got about 400kb difference between the 2 exes
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it looks like this: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fiendish/mushclient/exe-manifest/MUSHclient.exe.manifest
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 400kb seems kinda big
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea thats tiny
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: new exe smaller by 400kb?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nah bigger
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh that's weird
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: seems like whatever mt.exe does it makes the exe fat
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that exe is version 5.1 mine is 4.98
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that could be too
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah, seems pretty unlikely
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not actually version 5.1
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh its not?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's 5.06-pre
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lying in a manifest... sounds like a crime punishable by death :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: version numbers are kinda silly anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the way people use them sometimes is silly
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if I had a release department I'd put them right next to my QA department
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmm well I'm running that version you posted in debian with no issues
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wine reliably does not lie about the major version though
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which I suppose I should report to them as a bug
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder what the bug report title should be
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wine irresponsibly tells the truth about OS version?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Wine Is Not Equivocating
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oooh
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43999
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: already a comment ;D
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I replied to the comment
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think I found an aardmapper bug
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 'mapper showroom' a roomid that doesn't exist, then mapper goto a room that does exist, and for me it bombs
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: says findpath is getting a nil value, which makes sense if the mapper showroom roomid doesn't exist in the db.  Anyone else get that?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't get exactly that behavior.  If I do "mapper showroom 100000", nothing is sent to the output but the mapper window is blank.  If I then try to goto another room, it fails because it doesn't know from what room I'm starting
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: same for me
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm using mush r1944 by the way
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: latest version for me
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: "attempt to index a nil value" is the error message I get, followed by the traceback
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nope, I don't see that error.  Must be related to S&D :P
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the mapper should be exactly the same from snapshot to snapshot, according to Fiendish it hasn't been updated in a while
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is it possible your db is slightly corrupted?  Just for kicks, you might want to do a separate fresh install and see if you can reproduce the bug there.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I doubt it, although when you mess with it using an sql database editor while mush is running, who knows what can get broken.  No corruption evident though.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is it possible your db is slightly corrupted?  Just for kicks, you might want to do a separate fresh install and see if you can reproduce the bug there.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, deja vu
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Wait, let's do something repeatable that isn't dependent on exits
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's a glitch in the matrix, it means they changed something
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I started at recall, did showroom 100000, and then did goto 32419
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's the room 1 south of recall
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: lol, deja vu is right :p  whoops :)
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone here familiar with matlab?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone here know how to deploy a matlab instance that could be accessible like an api?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: is it possible to request "where" data via gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: what do you mean pwar... the path to ?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: no, just like doing a where command, but data sent in background via gmcp
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: from what I've seen of that code I dont think it's possible... but not 100% sure
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah I was looking through the GMCP doc for aard it doesn't show anything like that thought it might be undocumented thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: to note where you are and which room you are in, yes
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you could trigger the usual where command, anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: of course
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: was just trying to see if there was a more elegant way with gmcp :) thanks again
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: my pleasure
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know of a plugin to predict the moon cycles (i.e., when three moons will occur)?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast has one.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone use bast moon plugin? i installed the mini window but i dont see a created window
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type mb plot
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Plus, you need to be outside to see the three different moon cycles.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh, does it take awile for the the window to appear? The cycle of one or more moons is unknown.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need all three moons for it to predict for you.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you hand outside for the next 20 or so ticks, it should give you information.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aha, so the window doesnt create until all three moons are captured?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zhalut gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why is my mapper goto to darklight freaking out?  It loops through the cedria portal three times and then doesn't even make it to the area
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: whoa
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: runto a room in vidblain and it is endlessly looping through this portal, into vidblain, into portal, just no sense to this at all
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: like push off i  the water
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would mapper loop me through insanitaria portal, to vidblain, and back again over and over?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it makes no sense
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: maybe reset that portal?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: it sounds like some sort of speedwalk loop hidden in there
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd double check the cexits for those two areas too just in case.  I might also temporarily restore an older DB just to see if the DB is corrupted in some way.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and there is no easy wait function in mush, is there?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you have the wait package installed, you can do wait.time(# seconds)
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, it errors
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh wait (no pun intended) that's for co-routines.  That might not be what you are looking for.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Are you trying to add a delay between commands on the command line?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think so
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if I can just force it to wait a second after entering the vidblain hole, and then figure out what room it's in before continuing on
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's random too, sometimes it goes to the target room just fine, no issues.  Try it again and it loops through insanitaria 20 or 30 times before arriving at the wrong room in the wrong area.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and for some reason darklight is especially bad, it absolutely cannot find darklight to save its life
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just makes no sense
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Weird.  Do you have all of vidblain explored?  I had problems a while back where I'd get dropped into a vidblain room I hadn't explored so the mapper would use a portal to bump me back to another area and try again.  That confused the heck out of me for a while :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Vidblain exit is not set I thought.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: vidblain is a continent, so it is pre-mapped when you download the mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: This was custom lua code I was playing with back then.  I was manually trying to get past vidblain
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what I think is going on is that it runs to the hole, enters hole, and then does mapper goto whatever room in whatever area, but in doing so it calculates the shortest path.  And it must think that it's in a different room than it actually is, and the cedria portal path through the hole comes up as shorter, so it runs that.  And then repeats until it either hits a wall, or gets close enough to the target zone that it finally runs to it
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is the 'mapper goto' executing before you're actually finished moving?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Possibly, it's set up as a local function something or other and I haven't quite grasped those yet
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, no, it isn't
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: because I added tracking code to detect exactly that
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I could just get a sendhia portal and be done with it but I hate to spend 15 tps to bandaid a mapper glitch
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: will have to come back to this after dinner and i've had time to think it over, I suppose.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why is it 'aard layout lock' and 'aard layout unlock' and 'resetaard' rather than 'aard layout reset'?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because resetaard came first and "layout lock aard" sounds dumb
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rather "layoutlockaard"
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you want an aard layout reset?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I do, but not enough to clone the repo and make a pull request.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you know Github now lets you do that entirely through the web interface now
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I didn't know that
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you just find the file you want to edit and click the edit button on it, and github automatically forks for you and makes a feature branch
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Damn, that's pretty nice. I'll have to take a look sometime.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then when you're done with the edit it asks if you want to make a pull request
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pretty handy for those small edits
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is a pull request?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It usually requires $50
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 50 dollars that you donate to the mud in my name so I get the tps?  sounds great, get on that asap :D
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A pull request is where I clone Fiendish's git repository, make some edits, then request he pull those changes back into the main repo
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's essentially submitting a patch without having to actually generate diffs and send them.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I really wish it showed the room id after the room names when running, it would make it easier to trace where a speedwalk goes wrong.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So script it.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that doesn't need to be in the mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can detect the running state and emit room ids from a separate plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: easy peasy
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Using mushclient I want to create a trigger to beep when it's time to quest, what do I need to set the output to in order to accomplish this?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you don't need any output at all
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: basic triggers have an input section for loading a sound file
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: just need a beep file
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: function soundQuestTime()
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: end
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a beep file is included
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's in MUSHclient\sounds
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: function soundQuestTime()
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: PlaySound(0, "qtime-3.wav", false, 0, 0)
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: end
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's the function I call from the "time to quest" message
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Using mushclient I want to create a trigger to beep when it's time to quest, what do I need to set the output to in order to accomplish this?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: deja vu
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Thank you I see it.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: glitch in the matrix
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: means they changed something
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Maruxus gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I guess I just delete the insanitaria portal, I can't seem to fix this
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm idk, i use my sendhia portal for vidblain
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: not sure if leaving insanitaria to vidblain drops you in a random room
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it does, because you have to go through the dark portal thing
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk what the dark portal thing is :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i never go to insanitaria
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: enter hole in 11910
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ah yea
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Insanitaria isn't in Vidblian, so you have to go through the dark portal to get there.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i see
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does imperial nation have a portal?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: get yourself a sendhia portal :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Dark Crystal, yeah.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or any portal for an area in vidblain, add it to mapper and problem solved
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: also, dont try to use a cexit for enter hole
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: itll go so wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the cexit I have on 11910 does enter hole;wait 0.1;mapper goto 33571
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the idea behind the wait is it lets the gmcp info update, so when it does the mapper goto it should know where it is
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: can you do a mapper goto inside a mapper goto?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it doesn't matter that the landing room is random, because the script should be able to get that roomid and then figure the path from there to destination.  But it's getting fooled into thinking that portal is a shorter path, and that's causing it to loop
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: you can do mapper goto in a cexit, it works in Xyl to nullify the random landing room in the rock garden
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: What happens if you are a little lagged and gmcp doesn't update in 100ms?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it just needs a few x 0.1 seconds to update its location
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that happens so seldom it's not worth considering
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Instead of wait 0.1;mapper goto, why not enter hole; echo <some specific text here>, then trigger on that text and do the mapper goto there?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk i can just see nested mapper goto's going horribly wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but i didnt write it
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: without the wait, it will go to the wrong room
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's what the echo and trigger is for, silly. Works fine for me in my 'runto sendhia' alias.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I was answering the 'nested gotos going wrong' comment
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: screw it, I just deleted the offending portal
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: does the mapper count a cexit as one step, even if the cexit contains multiple commands?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: seems to
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I wonder if I could trick it into thinking going through the hole counts as 5000 steps or something
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok, the problem seems to be originating from S&D extender's "vidblain assist" interacting badly with the insanitaria portal, but I think changing the commands to 'mapper walkto' may have fixed it, since 'mapper walkto' avoids the use of mapper portals.  We shall see.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I lost the "t" button of my keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: me too!
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it is annoying
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then you should have typed 'I los the "" buon of my keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ack!
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I los he "" buon of my keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: should I buy a new laptop
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yes, and send your old one to me.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I might have to send it back to abelinc
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I took off the option key and put it where the T key was
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: How did you lose your T key?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I have no clue
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blurryeyed Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blurryeyed Tech: any lua experts around
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Better to ask the question.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blurryeyed Tech: well actually i found a workaround .. i just typed "prompt" and that stopped the prompt which stops the text to speech for the prompt
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I own some .com, .net, .org, .me, .mobi, .us, .tech, and .fyi domains
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: www.lastwordalways.arg ?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, .arg, that'd be a good one
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: aregentina?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc #lastwordalways
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling agrees!
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: does bast have an update for this opk qp count thingy?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: anyone see anything wrong with this line?  350*:             sPat = "[%w\-]+$"
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think this one is better: sPat = "[%w-]+$"
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: is that what the issue is?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: mush has a problem with that line somewhere
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that was it apparently
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: we'll see if it works from here i guess
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: seems to be some other serious issues with this plugin :(
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: consider window
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it worked for about 5 seconds lol
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: apparently its 8 years old
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it should still work
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea idk, dont feel like digging around in it to figure out why its not working
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hold on, theres a space missing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nope still not updating the miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even if you type "con" ?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea, its supposed to update whenever you enter a room, just fixed the missing space for that trigger, and whenever you consider it should update or at least i think
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does it populate window with mobs after you type con manually?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so then you just need to turn "autocon" feature
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no, its only populated twice and it was wrong both times
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im not even sure why it updated those times
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: all the consider triggers are set to omit from output too and they havent once, i dont think theyre being enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: where did you download it?  maybe I can take a look at it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: tech https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9681
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: btw that "con" is pretty annoying, so you could convert it to roomchars
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea thats basically what i want, or even just a single con when i enter a room that populates a miniwindow so i can see what all is in the room
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk this is supposed to have extra features like setting aliases 1-whatever to 'kill mob'
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, it has such feature
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 1,2,3,4,5 etc
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: do you use it trachx?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, but I used it severals years ago
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but IIRC you could just set 1 kill command
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea i think so, i just installed it though so im not sure yet, just want it to update the list first of all lol
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what mush version do you have?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 4.98
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to do that right way - you need to process roomchars tags, then you also need to process kill messages to remove dead mobs from that window
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also nice to link that with mobs properties (like immune to light, immune to strangle) so you can attack (or skip those mobs) with proper skill
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: you're into mobdb territory at that point
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea thats basically the plugin i suggested to tol but he hasnt written it yet
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the roomchars one at least
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but roomchars has the long desc
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's ok
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you need to create mobdb
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you enter a room and process roomchars, lookup mob description in mobdb and load a mob keyword into window
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: this is why i download plugins instead of writing them myself :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if mob is not in db - you send con and then match roomchars with con output and load new items into db
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just use file mobdata.lua which I require into my main script file
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i have 0 experience with dbs in mush, and i suck at lua
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk im going to bed, ill ask someone who actually uses this script how to make it work :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it is just lua tables containing entries like this:   ["A serving girl is carrying drinks."] = { k1 = "gir", o = "p4", L1 = 70, L2 = 85 },
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then either ask Starling to do the work for you :P or join clan that has some people writing plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: where did you get the script
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9681
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't mind doing the work if it removes clans' monopolies over good scripts :)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: if you want to make me one id welcome it :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but id prefer a db instead of lua tables if you do roomchars
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kash snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I work at amazon and am on 5x12 (60) hour work week right now so chances are I'll get a chance to glance over it right as I'm passing out from being tired
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can't do sql at all at this point
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just haven't found the right problem to let me break into it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea i cant either thats my biggest issue with something like this
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: triggers arent much of an issue, nor is 95% of the script
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does it do, exactly?  just take a snapshot of the room and give you a macro/alias to kill each one in turn?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: puts mobs in a miniwindow and then sets aliases for killing them
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea basically, apparently thats supposed to be a function of it anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the hassle will be setting up the db, it always is because you have 230+ areas, with dozens to hundreds of mobs in each.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id be happy with just having their names in a miniwindow as long as they got delted when i killed them
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just make sure you double check and ensure the script you want to run is actually legal.  It sounds like it is, since it's operating on a macro/alias, but just double check that to make sure.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i think thats why this guy went with just using consider for the whole thing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it is, its all aliases, doesnt do anything by itself except consider
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it wont do anything if i dont type a command (except a random consider on repop maybe)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: see now it updated again wtf
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: another neat thing to do is assign each mob in your db a 'priority' level, and when you build the mob list, have it put the mobs in an order that results in less trouble for you
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: for example, if a mob does nothing particularly bad, it'll be p4 by default.  If the mob autoassists, set it to p2 and kill those off first.  If it spooks or teleports, set it p6 and leave them for last.  the priority levels I use are p1 = highest, and p7 = lowest so with that many levels it's easy to rank mobs based on how irritating they are and how much trouble they can potentially cause if killed in the wrong order
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: bart with their left hand?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: now I remember what I wanted to ask.  Is strong encryption of any sort viable with Lua?  I know cryptographic hash functions like SHA256 are, but can't find really good info about implementing AES or RSA or other form of strong crypto
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: does aardmush have bitlib library?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea idk, seems like the triggers for the consider lines just arent being enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but they are, i can see that they are (or at least my Note() ran right before the ENableTriggerGroup())
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what trigger patterns are you using?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its the ones in the plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i should update them all to regex and see if that helps
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: right away I see that the triggers are not enabled by default
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no theyre not, theyre enabled in send_consider
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: which fires just fine, and i put a Note() in there to see if it was running the else portion of the if
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, his enabletrigger commands are using 0 and 1 in place of true and false, I don't think that's correct as both 0 and 1 evaluate to true in Lua.  Maybe change those?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nah i use 1 and 0 all the time
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and the one in send_consider uses true
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but i changed it to false
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: err
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i changed it to 1
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you ever look at someones script and wonder why the hell they did it the way they did?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't know, the documentation for EnableTriggerGroup() gives the syntax as EnableTriggerGroup("trigger_group_here", true)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Most of working on S&D consists of exactly that
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: theyre all true/false from what i can see
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh this one isnt
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: kash, I got the script, it works for me, but... did you get the one in page 5 of the thread ?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the one about the exit trigger?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm looking at the function conw, that one uses EnableTriggerGroup("group_name", 1)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think it should be using true/false and not 1/0
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it doesnt matter either way starling, but the one that im having problems with is in send_consider and its using true by default
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yes, it's not the only diff respect the one in the first thread page
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh theres a whople different script file here
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no i didnt see that one
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: starling 1=true ... or better 0=false and anything else = true
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not in Lua
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea i ALWAYS use 1 and 0 in my scripts
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: try it, it works for me
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: for EnableGroup and EnableTriggerGroup
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 0 and 1 are both true in Lua, the only false values are false and nil
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: doesnt matter what they are in lua, only what they mean to the EnableGroup and EnableTriggerGroup functions
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oooops, my bad Starling... here I just showed how newbie I am at lua :(
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill try this one kit
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's ok
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it sounds like the script might just be old, or maybe the mushclient version needs updated
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it never hurts to upgrade to the most recent version
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea im trying this version on page 5
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you should also chenge 'mob = string.match (line, k)' with 'mob = string.match (string.gsub(line, "?!", ""), k)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: what line number is that?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: even if that's just for certain mobs
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 480
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: still doesnt work :\
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oh wait.-..-.ò.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not sure why you'd want it to auto-consider on entering the room though, that sounds like it would get kind of annoying.  I'd put it on a macro button or alias so that it populates the list when that command is given.  No reason to auto consider if you're not actually going to kill something.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea not even close
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I added 2 triggers, so the line changed
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: find mob = string.match (line, k)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: its unique
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: found it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and look in the last page of the thread (6) there are 2 triggers to improve the script
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: for 'noexp' and 'appear'
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You know what's actually REALLY annoying and kind of hard to work around?  Mob auras.  Sanc, good/evil, translucent, etc.  When I was first getting into Lua and regexp, getting a pattern to match a mob long desc AND both possible cases (mob has auras, mob has no auras) was a real PITA
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: considerline = string.gsub(considerline, "%(White Aura%) ", "")
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: still nothing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: considerline = string.gsub(considerline, "%(Translucent%) ", "")
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yeah, see I didn't know about that at the time, so the filtering is straight regexp
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sad :( it works for me
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there is the regexp:  (?:\([GHIRTW()]\))\s(.+)$
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its like the triggers arent being enabled or theyre not matching
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: one of these two things is true, theyre not being enabled or they dont match
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: doesnt happen you have the gammon's color consider active ?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: (I)(G) You would stomp A buzzing sprite into the ground.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: match="^You would stomp (.*?) into the ground\.$"  
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: no idea, sorry :(
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea that definitely wont match
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I generally use .+ for 'match anything'
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ugh, ill have to fix the regexp on all these triggers
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: problem is it starts with ^You so it will never match ^(I)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there will never be nothing where the wildcard is present, so it doesn't make sense to have a pattern that responds to 0 or 1 of a thing, hence .+ over .*
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: heh... that's why I cant stomp anything to the ground :)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill redo all of these triggers tomorrow
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: then maybe ill make someone post my updates to the forum :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: match="^(.*?) You would be completely annihilated by (.*?)\!$"
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: see this is what i mean
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 2 different triggers, completely different
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: omg these triggers are horribad
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill fix em
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: help consider even gives you the lines
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: is there a way to turn off seeing flags on mobs in consider?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, I suspect the lua engine itself might have been upgraded since that script was written
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its the triggers, look at them theyre bad
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: also some have multiple wildcards and others have only one
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: they all need to be regex with a single backreference
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is much simplier to preprocess con line and strip it off mob flags like (I), (Invis), (Trans...) etc
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you just get a line like: You would stomp A buzzing sprite into the ground.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you construct regexps for that line to extract mob name
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: fixed.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: now can anyone tell me with certainty which flags will show up in consider?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: of good evil translucent cursed etc etc etc
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: screw it im going to sleep :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry, I had to go AFK abruptely... yes there are some wrong triggers there... probably changed in the meantime
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i fixed them all
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill send you the new version later
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: remind me
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but going to sleep now
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: nite :)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: when creating cexits can you use mapper commands like.. mapper runto?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No. It will cause issues.  You can put in a run 3n etc though.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because that would get processed immediately, while you're still in the starting room
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm can you add a wait?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: you can change the total wait time
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Starling uses mapper goto in hers. Uses it for Vidblain; it runs to vidblain, waits 0.1 seconds, then runs to a set room as her 'starting point'
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that doesn't change when it's processed...
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yes, it does.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It actually works. 
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I mean using the mapper wait command
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wrote that on dunpeal's question, not your comment
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what starling does isn't a cexit, it's an override of the mapper functions
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, she uses it as a cexit.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, that vidblain thing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the solution to the looping problem was to make it do either 'mapper walkto' or 'xmapper move <room> walk' which tells mapper to not use portals, and therefore avoids looping back to insanitaria
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: unfortunately, mapper walkto doesn't use portals
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so you won't use your sendhia, imperial, etc. portals, you'll just run the slow way
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but at least it actually does get you there instead of looping through the same portal 50 times
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: - 30
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Hey Aardlings, I've written a plugin that helps access external maps from inside of mushclient. Download and check it out http://huddy.tk/plugins/Aardwolf_Showmap_v1.0.3.zip screenshot http://huddy.tk/plugins/showmap.png
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i have a brand new idea for a graphical plugin.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: a live damage meter. like they use in gpu reviews
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: what sort of graphical?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: here - it'd update in 3 second intervals when in combat. 
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't most people use a live damage meter?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: ugh!
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not brand new. Already been done. Don't ask me where, though.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that sounds distracting you mean like showing updating bar graphs?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yes Pwar
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: well
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: neat idea but would be too distracting for my eyes :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thought aardMUSH shipped with updating bar graph already...
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: He's talking about a damage meter, not a health meter
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc doesn't follow the difference
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: one that tracks damage dealt and received
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damage is merely removed health
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: there was a channel that used the fps graph... ive lost it now
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: https://youtu.be/k72BJi74WtU?t=413
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: that type of graph. but for damage here
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: live damage meter (if it is what I think he's saying) would be showing the damage at any given moment not the total lost like health bar does
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yes. but since the rounds are 3 secs long, the update cycle would be 3 secs.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: hi, I have a search and destroy question.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: Every time I seem to use it for my campaigns there is atleast one mob it doesnt know. When this happens none of the mobs it should know appear to S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: therefore making me check cp info not cp check because cp check does not show any mobs..
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is the mob scrambled? (name is changed somehow)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: possible
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: maybe one, but these are all low level campaigns so I doubt it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: but it causes all of them to fail
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you using the one on Starling's Finger.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: I currently have lik 9 or 10 targets left but cant see any on S&D window or CP check
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: 1.3.3
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you reinstall the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: sometimes droid mud is hard to read..
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: no, I will try that now
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: are there any other flags that show up on mobs besides IGWRTHX and Wounded?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: there's (D)... I think that's diseased?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: full list in 'help auras'
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im just gonna change my regex to [A-Za-z]+...
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sir Mandy Mandorallen chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krezey Tech: Hello?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you can ask your question, Krezey
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and if someone knows, they'll answer :)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: (\([A-Za-z ]+]\))* should work well :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krezey Tech: So.. Im using Blowtorch client on the phone, and whenever I assign a button to switch sets I recieve in error when I click it.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: damnit why didnt you guys tell me i have an extra ] in there
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Same reason we don't tell you there's spinach in your teeth.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombinynjah Tech: its funny!~!
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: My understanding of regex is so small that I just figured the extra one was necessary
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i think i am officially done with the consider window updates if anyone is interested
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Info channels isn't showing up for me unless I uncheck "Enable Triggers". However, when I disable each trigger individually I still can't see the info channel. Anyone know what's going on here?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Tipro: try right clicking in your comm log window, echo channels to main window, and select info channel
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok, actually done now i think
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Get your MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: Is there a short cut to search through command history? Ala ctrl-r? 
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's ctrl-r?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: bash thing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: yes, sorry bash thing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah, got it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: search command history? You know, I think there might be...one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ctrl+h ?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: nice, not exactly what I'm looking for but very useable, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol, I looked for this in 2011
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it seems the thread had no resolution :\
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wanted shift-tab to do it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so it seems like the answer is no, but it could be done with scripting
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: Okay, thanks for searching!
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: mudlet lets you type something and then uparrow will scroll up only to commands that match it, works nicely
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: obviously doesn't help with mushclient
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it can be done since you can programatically access the command history, it's just not done built in 
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the ctrl+h dialog is a pretty good multi-step solution since you can search from it
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so u can play mush directly from a thumb drive now?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you couldn't before?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i couldnt, at least i dont think i could
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I had never tried personally I just assumed it would work. Aside from a few stray registry settings it might leave behind I thought mush was reasonably portable
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: people have been running mushclient from thumbdrives for years
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing has changed
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so can i just copy my aardwolf file and move it to a jump drive and it will work directly from the jump drive?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: copy the entire "mushclient" folder with all subfolders and files to the drive, then run mushclient/mushclient.exe from the drive and it should work
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: also how do i make my prompt save the last entrance
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the what
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: wut
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Maybe Limunious wants Alt+0 -> Auto-repeat command
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Anyone using LMDE around?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are Mushclient questions still answered here?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, they're answered over there -->
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I can never win
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm trying to learn a bit of Chinese through some Chinese language muds, but by default it doesn't look like my mushclient setup supports the character encoding (unicode?)... from googling around it looks like it's possible to turn it on though?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: We can't all be winners, now. We have to have some losers so there can be winners. Think of it as your contributions.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I could be winning .. sometimes..
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, not sure about that, to be honest.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I didn't find anything terribly obvious in the settings (was hoping for an encoding dropdown)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I should find some Spanish muds to practice my Spanish on.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I'm looking for ways to integrate language studies into my gaming addiction =)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: I've seen some unicodes deep in the programmers' forest, east of the binary fields. 
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: in world properties it looks like there's a checkbox to turn on UTF-8.. might help
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've seen dead bunnies in blood-ridden forests, right next to the swamps of no return :'(
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yajan: You're using a font for the output that displays the Chinese characters?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions are answered here now
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they weren't before. before they were answered there.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've used MUSHclient in Chinese in the past by launching it with LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 wine MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know how in Windows though
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Some chinese muds have bicolor characters, which is super neat but not supported by MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's a plugin in this thread to remove them https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=13797&page=2
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: chinese mud.. damn
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i wonder if it scrolls sideways?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I'm trying to get a trigger that parses out normal, rare and opk xp and adds it together 
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: but the problem is that the '+' symbol is being taken as a regular expression
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can escape it.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: put \ in front of it?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: because I want to simplify all the outputs and have a single line showing total xp and gold from a mob
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That already exists in the game.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: how?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, Rare doesn't combine, but the others do.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Im not sure what you mean. I'm on mush and getting one line for xp, another if double is going, one line for gold looted and a fourth line for gold on corpse sac. I want to combine that into 1 line
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oh, yeah, didn't see the 'gold' portion.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Has anybody else been having problems with eqDB, recently?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define "problem" and "recently"
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Losing track of items (dropping out of the database, no longer being registered)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: for how long? I'm trying to figure that out, sorry
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I bet you are not using the latest version 
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I only noticed it since I remorted
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: of MUSHclient? or eqDB? (or both?)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: both
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the latest aardwolf mushclient package requires the latest eqdb
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: well, you have released 1946, though I'm already on 1944.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: well. an eqdb fix. i should get that
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: duh
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: First thing anyone should ever do when having troubles with a plugin is check to see if there's a newer version. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't remember the exact cause, but there was some conflicting interaction between inventory serials and eqdb that was fixed by an update to eqdb
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Thanks, Fiendish, for calling me on my nub-ness.  The containers issue is presumably what I was running into.  Guess I may as well update MUSHclient while I'm at it :)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: always glad to help
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a setting for mushclient that allows you to see all the output, even the stuff that is flagged omit from output?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Anyone available to help with Bast Spellup plugin? The window isn't showing anywhere. I've removed and reinstalled. Quit and reopenned MUSH, but nothing seems to work.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: - h
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Tol: no, though sometimes I wish there were
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can display gmcp though
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is anyone else having trouble with mush upgrades?  On two different systems running wine, mush locks up for me when it displays the window notifying me that a new version of mush is available.  I think that the notification window is sometimes being added beneath my other windows and I can't access it to accept/ignore the update.  The other windows don't have focus and I can't do anything except force close mush at that point.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what version of wine
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If I upgrade mush, everything is fine until the next time an update is advertised and then it repeates
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 2.19-staging and 2.20-staging don't do that for me
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I've tried everything from 1.8, 2.03, and 2.19 (staging)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: on debian
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: this happens on two different systems running os x
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It was driving me nuts until I just noticed that the upgrade window was sometimes briefly flashing and then going under the other windows
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think that would explain why I can't interact with any of the other windows on top of it
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so we can do a test
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: give me a minute to put it together
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sure, just tell me what you'd like me to try
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type \\\utils.editbox ("test message", "test title", "asfd asdf asdf asdf asdf asdf asdf", nil, nil, {["read_only"]=true})
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That works fine for me
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It was on top and in focus and I could select either option
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: open the AardwolfPackageChanges text file and edit the r number on line three to say something lower
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (keep mushclient open)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: jesus
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, I did.  Do you want me to restart mush?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Lol, never mind, you just said to keep it open
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type package update check
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The window popped up in front and in focus.  I could access it without any problem.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, undo the change the version file
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so there's something about creating the dialog box at that particular moment?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's what it feels like
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: This happens with a fresh installation with all of the default windows and window orientations
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If I install a version that is at least one version back from the latest
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok next test I guess. minute
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just for kicks, I re-ran mush over and over to see if the upgrade window issue was consistent or intermittent.  After a few times failing, the window popped up on top of my other windows and now it is repeatedly appearing where it should when I start mush.  Now I can't get it to fail on my system.  Argh.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just a sec...I need to find a chicken to sacrifice...
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at an old job we used to have a page on our internal wiki called Voodoo Chicken Ritual
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it involved swinging a rubber chicken over your head three times and some other very specific invocations that were surprisingly always able to get an unreproducible bug to reappear
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't suppose you remember the rest of the ritual? *grin*  Even with prime it will take 2 days for my chicken to arrive...
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: wait they don't have it for 2hour delivery?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, no 2-hour delivery.  Something about the chicken's voodoo field interfering with drone technology...
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The chicken ends up delivering the drone.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: ok now that made me lol
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok install that new plugin, then save and restart mushclient
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (it will pop up another dialog)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, be back in a sec
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, that killed mush.  Mush just hangs when I try to start with the plugin enabled.  I needed to manually rename the plugin file so that I could log back in and report back to you.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well I guess that's a success then. hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It popped up the window briefly and then went to a blank grey screen
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The chicken is saved!!!
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria enthusiastically high-fives Durel!
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, well...mmm...you know what, I can probably work with this. let's do another test
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you auto-login?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Login doesn't even come into play here.  It hangs before I get a chance to log in
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's great and probably also fixable
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my fix won't address the cause of the problem, but I can probably work around it without breaking annything
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sounds good to me :)  I can work around the issue now that I now what is happening.  I mainly just don't want someone else to hit it that isn't familiar with the issue.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, I tried the proposed fix and it still hangs the system.  It pops up the dialog window for a few seconds, then the dialog window disappears and mush hangs at that point.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: looking for testers
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good morning. MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hi all
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i want to upgrade from win 7 home basic to win 10.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: is there any way i can keep my drivers (graphocs sound etc.) I installed win 10 and had no drivers, so i had t rollback to windows 7
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: probably not, should be able to just go download your drivers after though
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: drivers roo big since i'm on a limited plan, but meh..
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so just grab that aard package and check whether it runs?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk how else youd get them
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or does that need thorough testing ?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if you have your driver cd from your graphics card/motherboard you can try it i guess?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: btw why switch to 10?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: don't know :p it's just almost everyehere here
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: or do you say win 7 is more reliable than 10?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is more reliable
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: win10 is just live test distro
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: any version?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you cannot choose whether you want install updates or not, you just get them
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: of win 7 i mean
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: true that
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think getting linux is more prospective though
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if you need to run some apps on win 7/10 then you do not really have a choice
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe except using VM with some win version 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also for games - windows is obvious choice
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: I never had an issue with win 7. 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm you have a point
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, nowadays main problem with windows is security and privacy
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are smart enough then those 2 things are irrelevant
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: yeah, privacy is always my main concern :p People keep telling me to get Kaspersky
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, western world is unable to deploy some exploits because of Kaspersky
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so now you all know that Kaspersky spies you, so please install Windows Defender :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I remember Truecrypt - it was so secure that eventually its creator had to state that it is insecure
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Veracrypt replaced truecrypt
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: security sounds like the word organic to me these days
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: bleh, is there an antivirus that does not spyt?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: omg, like that food has carbon and nitrogen? ... omg, like that computer system has flaws?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually if you use Linux you do not need antivirus
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: problem here is the word Usually
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i've never gotten an ubuntu virus, though there's some java/flash/what have you nonsense, but that's mostly trackers
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you just want to use MS Office - get a Linux and use Office in VM
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that is not a good choice for ordinary user
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: ...google documents?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: too much fuss
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: screw microsoft
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then use Libreoffice (or OO whatever it is called now), but that is not really most convenient solution
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: honestly i'm not fond of that one
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and using any cloud service - you give your data to other people
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: google docs though
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: on google drive...
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: best way to stay secure is to never connect to internet
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using google chrome on chrome book :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: true dat ayasinda
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you cannot avoid that in modern world
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i still use firefox, and i'm on a lenovo i got for $80
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then you accept that you are not secure
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: all this is just a silly side note to privacy breach
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: tv's, dvr's, cell phones, freakin pistols that shoot lasers that listen to conversation through wall, the device that reads everything on a cell tower, etc.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: and don't even start with airplane security....that shit doesn't exist
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Tacos, dont forget about tacos!
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: mmm taco
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and vibrators :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa nicely asks Trachx to be more quiet.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: vibrators are hilarious
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nothing the tsa hates more i'm sure
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: have to refer to those as 'a dildo' not 'your -- dildo'
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: is that real i wonder? probably just funny for the movie
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: iono, it was funny nonetheless
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: still befuddles me that people can be so brainwashed as to impose all these strictures upon themselves and everyone around them, enforcing ridiculous laws against someone who finds them every bit as ridiculous as the enforcer does
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: all so a corporation can make up more imaginary currency papers and pretend they are important somehow
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: ms office 2016 reliable ? :p
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you mean by reliable?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Maruxus chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i mean in a privacy sense
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: privacy, eh?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if you save in the cloud, probably not
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: please go on
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: tell me more about O365 ad privac
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i mean...running microsoft software on microsoft software would seem to be a net 0 change in privacy
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and privacy*
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if you use it locally for a cookbook, I doubt it will send to Bill your grandma's pie recipe
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: anyway, if you want to be sure, use TeX ;)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: dillon's LD.. prolly those comments he made on privacy
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: need to be careful with those statements
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: the Man is always watching
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: or at least some ai is
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Sheeeeeit..... we're all in troubkle now
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: ban for swears
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: tonight, someone's gonna raid retri, and it's not even gonna be a player on the mud
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but you can thank dillon for that
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber screams "Beep! Beep!" like Road Runner and then turns and sprints off...
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dillon grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: does Search and destroy always fail to show correctly with cp check when you have mobs in area's that you have no explored?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: again this morning I have one red, 2 white and the rest dont even show up
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: probably. use cp info, go to the area, explore, profit :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: you have to at least step into the area first
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: so the mapper creates it as an area
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: won't help for room campaigns
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: room campaigns you need the room, but s&d still will take you to the area if you've been there
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: S&D uses mapper data, so yes. If you haven't been to the area before, it doesn't know that it exists, basically. And for room name campaigns, you have to have that exact room mapped.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for room campaigns, if you haven't visited the room, snd cannot know the area it is in
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if you have visited the room, it won't take you to the area, but to the room
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm, In the week my s&d showed a red for the secret lab in vlad. I assume it messes now and then
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: maybe the target was dead? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: or you had a bad path to the room
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: idk
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: But here is an example, I have been to magical hodgepog or w/e before. One of my mobs is in there but it doesnt even show up on S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: nope, my bad paths never highlight red and was not dead
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Zcrim: is it a room campaign or an area campaign?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: shows up as an area in cp info
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: cant check cp check as it doesnt show up due to S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: cp che
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for all the targets, yes? 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: 3 targets only show up, 1 red and 2 white
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if a target in a room campaign is dead, it will be listed by area, not room
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ~~~  1      a peace keeper       - 'Keep of the Kobaloi' is Unknown
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: red
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ~~~  2    Grebon, Gnome Mage Extraordinaire - 'The Grand City of Aylor' (32418) - aylor [1-201], ~~~  3    the Deep Dragon      - 'The Gauntlet' (31686) - gauntlet [0-300]
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: as white
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that's a room quest innit?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah, room cp's are still a bit wonky from time to time, but once you've explored it's less an issue
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: heh, I think it sees that as a room campaign
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm, someone type xmall Keep of the Kobaloi
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: no room found
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that's an area campaign being read as a room campaign? wierd
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: that's not how it works.  sometimes you can get options of going to a room or area in one thing
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: ...i've always had one or the other
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: failed mapper database integrity check, or something like that
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: well, there aren't many areas and rooms that share names
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: or in a room gq it will show the area instead of the room when it's dead
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sure, that's true harperon
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: well, it shows the area name if it's dead without the s&d if you type gq c etc
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: (test package) and cp check with S&D looks ugly - font is underscored
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: yeah..because s&d doesn't work for gqs...right..
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: yeah it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: my snd doesn't work for gqs :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: just displays
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: (test package) it seems that for some reaon underline was just ticked in font
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's fine, you can untick it if you want
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's hard to introduce new functionality without activating it at least once, because otherwise nobody discovers it
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so except that "Failed mapper db integrity check. close mushclient ...." error everything seems fine
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: fiendish, noone has a good reason why my S&D isnt showing targets... I get 1 Red, 2 White and the rest dont show up at all. I have been to the some of the area's of the mobs that arnt showing up so they should be in mapper..
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: failed integrity check? hm
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you copy the mapper db without closing mushclient first?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think I've closed all files before copying, but now I will switch to previous version and check that again
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zcrim: I choose to know very little about S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: gotcha, ok thnaks
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think I did it correctly, but test package fails with integrity check
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe I have rendered that DB to such state by trying to remove some titan rooms :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yet it seems to load fine on old version
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what version were you on previously?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (checkversion)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather old one: r1830
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess I should upgrade to new version (which probably upgrades also DB) and then use test package
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway it works
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for some definition of works that involves an integrity check failure :\
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with S&D and a bunch of other plugins (I found how many I use when they all failed to load as I installed test package to new location)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: would you be willing to send me a copy of the db file that is failing the check?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you want DB that was already opened on new version? or DB from r1830 mush?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm. I guess probably both
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one moment, need to close mush then
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: make sure to quit mushclients first
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: this is strange, this regex wont match in a plugin but matches as a mushclient trigger outside of the plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually it is not a mapper problem
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean mapper db is fine
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have "borrowed" a lot of mapper DB handling for another DB
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and it is another DB that fails to load
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's still interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still a bit strange as it loads on old version flawlessly
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well if you're willing to send me that db and whatever plugin is using it...
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you don't have to
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it can help to avoid other potential problems then sure, one moment , I need to close mush again
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kobus: did you write the plugin by hand?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no i wrote the regex
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some symbols can't be safely used in XML without replacing
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does your regex include < or >?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: plugin was generated by wizard
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ^(\([A-Za-z ]+\) ?)*(.+) would be easy, but is it even worth the work out\?$
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have 12 other triggers that look just like it and most of them work fine as far as i can tell
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you know how to find that trigger in the plugin file?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea im editing the plugin file right now
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you paste the entire <trigger></trigger> block for that one either in a note or pastebin or something?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea ill pastebin it
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: i'll be back in 15 minutes 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: back
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok kobus's problem is resolved, trachx looking at your download now
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: so I can't vouch for why the test wasn't failing previously, but the db integrity is fine. it's the test that's wrong.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you caused me to find a problem with the test code in the mapper plugin too, so that's good
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's possible that the older version of MUSHclient in r1830 also had an older version of SQLite built in, and that the older version emitted a different column name for the integrity check result to differentiate between full and quick checks
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so this is easy to fix. I'll send you the details once I'm done
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (I mean, it's possible that the newer sqlite differentiates between full and quick integrity check results, while the older one might not have)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: great news !
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: well? we're waiting!
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: my mushclient started acting weird earlier and couldn't write to any files, was complaining it couldn't open any more when trying to write to Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I restarted and it worked fine after that but it still concerned me, I'm not sure why it happened
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean what Fiendish said that I contributed greatly to Mush client and Aard package development
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, maybe not exactly that, but I contributed after all
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean kind of as I did nothing, but still counts, right ?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: put it on your resume, trach  :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: instrumental in custom code development project
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: anyone else run into an issue with mush in linux having "Too many open files"?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have it opened too many files ?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check that with "lsof"
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I guess I will have to check it again next time it happens
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it really have too many open files: either raise ulimits (if there are any), or change kernel params
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that sounds like a way to continue on but not fix the problem I doubt it should be exceeding open file limit
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe if you see what files are opened (or sockets as that also counts) you will be able to nail down source of problem
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yes I suppose I will have to catch it next time while it's erroring and see what is up
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: to be fair I think mushclient process had been running for a fairly long time, but I still don't think this should happen unless there is something calling up file descriptors by mistake or something
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: thanks Trachx
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: there's really no way i can change a language in win 7 home premium? :(
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Should be able to.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't see why you wouldn't be able to.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I think you can in windows 7, but you have to download the language pack
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i read online stuff and was told to upgrade to ultimate, but i believe there should be another way, i'll try by just downloading the pack
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: https://www.pcsteps.com/880-windows-7-language-change-any-version/
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: nod thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Good luck.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm, there's one thing
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i wont get into any bs for using this hack tool right? :p
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Is it really a hack? You shouldn't, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm. I wonder if it would be possible to create a video window that would allow you to open YouTube links in MUSHclient... 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I don't think mush has sufficient apis to make that happen but I could be wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how do I remove spellup plugin from trying to cast invis after evertime I kill a mob? really annoying when killing... :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Turn the spell off of your spellup
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: cheers thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: read help forgetskill
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgetskill wouldn't do it
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: oh? why not?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: think it worked just fine
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it doesn't stop you from casting stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Because it's being cast from a script, not mudside spellup.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: for one thing you wouldn't be able to cast invis manually if you did forgetskill
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgetskill wouldn't prevent a program from typing "c invis"
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you would, pwar
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh I thought it did
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that's not what I read in the help file.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Forgetskill only removes it from the mudside spellup.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgetskill has no impact on anything except the spellup *command*
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Which spellup script is up to date these days anyway?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: It's a simple test, really.  Try it out.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i'm using bast's, works great
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that is waht he was talking about. I thought that was what his question meant.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast has a nice alias on the page for his spellup script to help you stay visible
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no anaristos...he said spellup *plugin*
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: english no me first spinking thing.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/bastdocs, click the + next to Bast's Plugins, then click on bast_spellup to see info on Bast's spellup plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I use cmud, remember? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the "Walkthrough" section, he has an alias to go vis, and another to stay invis again
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: why/
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: The Original CMUD or the Zuggsoft Cmud?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: NM I am thinking Gmud
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I remember GMUD.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maruxus: probably for the same reason I use tinyfugue rather than MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: loved gmud
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It was awesome at its time.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: the screen was super fast
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Gmud was something. I loved Zmud at the time, I have a license for it. I am just not buying Cmud 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: cmud is an original and unfinished zugg :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz it's powerful enough to do everything that I need, and I'm very intimately familiar with it
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: zmud was my jam
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Did not require install, so we could hide it on our PCs in the library at school and run it from an inserted object in a Wordpad file.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: diabolical.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nice choice
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: a bunch of us here spent over 2 years beta testing cmud and then zugg walks out.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Kalvothe.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've been using tinyfugue since before any of those existed ;-)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: after we paid the new license for the release version :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: we hacked the server in my high school to run our quake 2 servers
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: I can't help think of Tugsoft when people mention Zuggsoft.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Tugsoft made UO:Assist for Ultima ONline
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: cmud is very powerful as is, it would have been something if taken to completion.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Zugg abandoned cmud?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, dropped it like a lead balloon
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: walked right out
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: can I still buy Cmud and get a key? 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Maybe he got tired of the pushback from Zmud users, haha
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: z/cmud was still pretty popular here for years, but between zugg dropping it and the amazing work Fiendish has done (not only in the aardMUSH package itself, but also with supporting it), it's been a landslide for a while
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: three cheers for fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that is true, had I not invested the time I did in cmud I would have been happy to work with aardmush.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Hip hip.. crap I threw out my hip
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You CAN buy a cmud key still, I think - but why would you want to? He's stopped all development.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "the bugs you know" is why lots of people did continue using cmud for quite a while
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: he has and if there are some bugs, not big ones, but they can be annoying sometimes.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: not if* :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I remember when zMUD had a serious bug that allowed people to be easily fooled. You could do something like ft :says hi.;&239;Crowley is haunted by wolves. to make people think you were just Imm'd. Or whatever the breakline character was.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: breakline sequence, rather.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, that wasn't really a bug, it was simply support for MCP (or M something P, I forget)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: So I've been away a while and I'm pretty sure some of my manor exits are gone.  My aardMUSH mapper is trying to use an exit here that doesn't exist.  I've done "mapper purgeroom" and it still happens.  Help?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: MXP I think?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's it
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Zugg defined it as a bug, fixed it in the next version after it was "found".
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xaxz: you should be able to right-click the room and edit its exits
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I was mad when he fixed it. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: That's the strange part, there aren't any rogue exits when I do that
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you make manor cexits?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's the cexits, for sure.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "mapper where 32418", what does it say?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: mapper delete cexits
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will tell you the path that it intends to take ot reach recall, btw
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: There are no cexits in this room and that one takes me to recall, yes
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It doesn't have to be in that room.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Go to your manor porch, and do the mapper where again.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, use "mapper where <some room that's messing up>", that will give you an idea of what it's trying to do
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: try mapper cexits in your "home" room, if that isn't where you've been trying from.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: err
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: 'mapper cexits here'
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Right, it's trying to run north from my manor to get to some areas.  No cexits here or from my porch
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: is it your runto prefix?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Good point, Grimvald. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I have a custom runto script which just uses "mapper goto xxx"
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wait. You're using a custom runto, having issues...
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: And this is why I'm asking in tech, because I've exhausted all possibilities in my head
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, if you're using a custom runto, there's not much we can do on our end, because it's something in your custom script. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: No no, don't be condescending.  The script just does some clever mapper searches for the keyword and executes a "mapper goto ##"
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ignore your script...don't use it AT ALL in these tests...
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Guys... listen.  The problem still exists when I use the "mapper goto" command which means it has NOTHING to do with that script
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except I didn't tell you to use mapper goto :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Mapper where gives me the same issue, just shows that it WOULD go north instead of actually running there
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: even without running through your script?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's definitely odd, then.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now try "mapper walkto <that num>"
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it also do it?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Walkto does fine
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You've gone and set up a rogue portal.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, that means that you have a portal going north
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: rogue portal detected
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: mapper portals, check for it?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: That would be it then.  It's because I never re-enabled my portal script.  =)  The "north" coming from after one of my portals.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: lol, thanks guys.  That's what I couldn't figure out
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i need to change portal aliases and keywords on map of the woods and map of the world? using search and destroy.any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i usually use area name for the alias and id in the alias
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: that would make sense, how do i change it in search and destroy
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: at the bottom it shows how to delete
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you cant really 'change' it, unless you modify the script
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ahh, you delete and redo the protals
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you can delete just one portal at a time, dont go using purge if you dont have to lol
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: so the portal i want to get rid of is number 5, so mapper delete portal 5, right?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea youd just delete and redo it, you could dig into the db but its probably easier not to
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: mapper delete portal #5
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: mapper delete portal #5
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: gotta have the # to tell it to delete that index
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ahh, thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: Anyone recall the command to reset the mini window for bast's plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: aardreset I think
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats for aard plugins not bast, and you got it backwards
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no idea corran
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Oh, gotcha.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: thx
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh did it work?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok lol
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: i know miniwin_events is reset by: mev reset
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: type: plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: that shows list of plugins from Bast and aard, and those Bast plugins have keywords listed under the Cmd column
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: Thx wire
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: for example to change settings for the Bast gq broadcast, type bgq, and to reset the gq broadcast, type bgq reset
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Hello, newbie mush client question, but is it possible to have 2 output window at the same time?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: as silly as it sounds, I would like to see the same output twice, in different windows.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you could make a script that does that I'm fairly certain
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you could use GetCommandList to populate a miniwindow with previous commands used
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It does sound silly. Why do you want it?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and do you want _all_ output twice or just some?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: all
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: webex *duck
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, why?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: well, I suppose only what is actually being displayed in the current output window.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the answer is that technically anything is possible, but there is no built in mechanism for doing what you want
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe if you explain why you want it someone can think of other ways
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea im interested to know the purpose of this as well
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh you mean the main window I thought you meant input
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that *is* weird :p
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you could use GetLineInfo in tandem with GetLinesInBufferCount to get access to the last x lines of output and then echo to a miniwindow or something
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: ok, I found and am looking at the set of scripts used to make up the aardwolf client. I didn't understand the scope of customization that's at play here. Impressive
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I suppose I see a way forward if I want to pursue that silly idea =P
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which silly idea? this one or the other one?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: how about a split view of a (mini?)window?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what about it
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Is that a feature that's available?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not yet
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: feel like someone was working on that but hadn't finished yet
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to do it well you'd need something like my textrect module, which isn't released
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Neat-o. I'd use that feature if it ever makes it out.  Thumbs up to whoever is working on it.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: starling might be looking for other things to work on
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intangible Rhuli Tech: Any lua programmers aware if we have the capability to loop through the items in a mobs inventory?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's not really a lua question. That'd be down to your triggers activating whether you're looking at a mob, and then appending to a list/variable somewhere until no longer listing items.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: As far as from the MUD's Lua interface, i'm not aware of a command for it
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intangible Rhuli Tech: I mean within a prog, loop through the items, not client side.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The only ones I'm seeing  on the wiki MudFunctions page, is to check specifically for items
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not to iterate
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder, though
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intangible Rhuli Tech: welll, dang, I really need this lol
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Potentially some hack via doat and "inventory"
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intangible Rhuli Tech: alright, will come up with some other way to accomplish what I'm trying to do.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I have a way
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intangible Rhuli Tech: talk on test port?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ok, at work, there's 2 applications, one called meerkat, and the other moocow. I need to work on a third app in the same zoo, and the naming convention is generally animals. Any cool one you can suggest that sorts of fit well with meerkat and moocow?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: clustercat and meowpussy were my first and second thought, but that probably won't fly
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwic Tech: should check out the Ubuntu naming conventions for inspiration
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Mynx, a play on minx? :p
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yah more subtle than clustercat
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: How can I enable Debug MUSClient, I got some process that's killing the CPU/Disk IO
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why do you think it's mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I'm running it on wine, when I strace it's it doing bonkers
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version of WINE?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It's been running fine the last 3-4 days, this just started a little bit ago, I think it's in a loop reading input from mud maybe
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version of WINE?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It's running in 1.9.2 at the moment
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Latest stable is 2.0.3. You may want to try upgrading your WINE package.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: As it turns out it's my wife's Phone using all our outgoing Bandwidth, nothing to do with wine or MUSHclient 
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: forget latest stable, even 2.0.3 is wicked old
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's so easy to use wine 2.20
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, typo out of habit
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nick really should consider making a mini-browser plugin for MUSH that supports html5. Just sayin'.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Nick has stated many times that his client is a text based mud client ;D
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Could've fooled me with all the visuals we got going on here, some created by Nick himself! :p
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i think its time for me to figure out how to do sqlite dbs in lua
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how to create or work with? Bast has some good code on creating a db and winkle's code will show you how to connect to aard.db.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: mostly just work with, i can probably find (or already have) an external tool to create it
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but knowing how to do it in lua wouldnt be bad either
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: do sqlite dbs not have types for their data fields?
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: null integer real text blob
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: check this page out
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: https://sqlite.org/datatype3.html
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah i get it, somewhat simplified compared to other databse engines
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah the group a lot of the data types together
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: they*
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: pretty much just need remember how to form sql queries and i should be golden with this documentation :p
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: SELECT * FROM table_name WHERE field = 'bah';
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea, just been a long time. anything more advanced from that is gonna take some reading
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: than*
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: same here I don't do a lot of sql anymore myself
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i did quite a bit for a couple years but that was like 10 years ago
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: had a pretty decent basic CMS that i wrote for a website that i had, sad all that code is gone
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and my php skill has gone down the tube
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: down the tube as in you deleted it?
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: down the tube as in i suck at it now
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk where that code went
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it may be on a flash drive ive lost long ago
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone here using windows xp still?
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: woah
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know, right?
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id be pretty impressed if someone was
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: Im not using XP but I did just wipe this PC that was running 98 (for old games)
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if there's one thing that I know it's that people don't like to update
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: man i need a 98 pc to run some of my old games now...
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You don't.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: I was using this one Im on right now, but reloaded it with damn small linux
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Campatibility mode works wonders.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: theres been a few games i couldnt get to run in compatibility mode and i cant remember what they were
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: mostly for playing mechwarrior 2, and some other oldies that have problems, with 3dfx card in it too
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but i really wanted to play them at the time
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh man. I loved mechwarrior 2
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I used to play that on an old powermac 6100
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Heh, one of my favorite older games was Black & White.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: I had some odd shmups from japan that wouldnt work on compat mode either
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea theres a lot of stuff compatibility mode just wont run
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Throw it on a virtual machine. If it's that old, it doesn't need that much CPU I'm guessin'.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: I upgraded to 10 and it had problems with virtualbox
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Also 7th Guest. Last Half of Darkness... Betrayal at Krondor. Balder's Gate... Terrorfist once sent me copies to install on my computer for Balder's Gate.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah yea good idea, biggest issue with that is getting the iso's for old ass versions of windows
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: but I got enough old hardware around I dont mind having one with 98 on it
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok but for real, anyone got an xp machine still running? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Damn it, now I'm nostalgic.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If I were still working as a GI Tech, I'd have you covered. Medical office, refused to update from XP. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: I had a laptop that aws running it but had harddrive problems and now it had linux on it but died compleetly recently
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: was a gateway from about 2004
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: otherwise I use virtual xp with microsoft's virtualizer for win10
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: most of the stuff that was xp compatable is covered pretty well by wine
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: microsoft seems to have removed access to their free XP virtual machines
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: they might have but I got a copy with win10 professional, and used a key from old xp and it works fine
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: I rarely use it for anything other than some old engineering apps
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: and some old magazine on CD programs
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: main thing is you gotta lock down the security on it some, don't want it accessing internet all the time etc
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ooh. archive.org might have one
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: what a copy of windows xp?
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, I need a virtual machine image
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well youd be able to install it from an iso
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can grab it from the XP Mode installer. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-windows-xp-for-free-and-legally-straight-from-microsoft-si/
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh sweet. they do still have the download. they just removed the link for it
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats the command again for someone to look at where the most mobs die
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: mobdeaths :P
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: mobdeaths
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: mobdeaths, but q/a is probably better place to ask :)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Any reason why mapper won't hanlde Crusader Clan zone correctly? I don't have it in mapper areas at all, but mapper where will pass me through it (incorrectly), I'm trying to update the area
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: anyone available to help me troubleshoot a pc issue?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: in and out but what do you need?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: so, something happened and now every time i open internet explorer it crashes
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: when it boots it has a box that says dwm.exe system error, the program can't start because d3d11.dll is missing
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: but I was able to access content through Kodi, so I know it's connected
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: have you run the usual virus and malware scans?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: well malwarebytes
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I can't get norton to open properly
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: run a virus scan also. What OS is it?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: windows 7
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: don't laugh, it's not my main comp:)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I won't many people use it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: is there another way to run virus scan if norton isn't working?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so your desktop window manager is failing. can you get into the system after that error?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: get a different virus scanner? Comodo is a decent ooption
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: do you have the correct graphics driver installed?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: yeah but I can't get online. though I'm guessing I can just use a usb drive to load it manually
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: dunno, but the resolution is messed up now
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: it's supposed to be 1920 X 1080
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: if its a windows problem try running the following command in a cmd: sfc /scannow
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: did that
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: are you using a graphics card or onboard?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: reinstall the videocard drivers ?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: graphics card
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: have you tried removing the graphics card and allowing windows to boot without it?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: physically remove it?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it might be an issue in your driver/card
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: or can I "disable" it?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if its a hardware issue you will have to remove it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but you can try disabling it to see if its a driver issue
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok maybe I'll try disabling first. Now, how do I do that? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: oh also in devices it shows the monitor as "Generic Non-PnP Monitor"
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Piffaron I would suggest googling it, I am sorry. I am at work right now and bouncing back and forth between windows
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: no worries, I did the googling thing (that's how I learned about the sfc /scannow, but since that didn't work I thought I would just try here:)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I'll try to remove the graphics card
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: thank you:)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: start it manually
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc loves his manual transmissions for that :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i had the same isue with my berlingo. but just once in 6 years
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: damn. mis:)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Anyone arround for some mapper help?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it a specific issue, or general questions? I've gotta run out the door, but can help with a quick specific question...for general questions, I like to point you to http://abelinc.me/mapper and http://abelinc.me/hosch :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: If I try to do "go 1" with S&D installed, it almost never works. Either it goes to a random other mob in the list, or it says "no destination exists". Any hints?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Your mapper doesn't know it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger waves a large bright cyan sign reading "EXPLORE !!"
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Even with areas I have fully explored, btw.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: go is used for after the runto has populated. You're looking for xcp 1.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: doors perhaps? custom exits
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Doors, also
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Does it work only with room name campaigns, maybe?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if you don't have a cexit for doors, the mapper doesn't know the path
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Again, you're using the wrong command.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Do what crowley said
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's nothing to do with doors. It's nothing to do with anything other than the command.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: OMG, YES, xcp works. YAY. Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Doors WILL cause it to bork, but that's not what happens when it says "No Destination"
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You'll just see yourself stood at a door after the run if the door isn't set correctly.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not always, because after the door, you can still move. :P But in this case, it wasn't anything about doors at all. People overcomplicate things! :p
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Go is not part of S&D itself. It's part of the mapper extender. That's why it wasn't working. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: what plugin is needed to access the seekrs hosted maps. none of the browsers on me phone want to open them
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ... There is no plugin needed to access them.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I think they are PDF files
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, wrong type of plugin. Heh.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But yes, I believe they're PDF files, so you may need a PDF viewer on your phone.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: even chrome whines that "the plug-in is not supported" stupid mobile devices
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: eh?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: which map specifically? you should just be able to download the file to storage and open with an e-reader app
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Pwar.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there are over a dozen usable pdf readers for any platform
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: seekers use php files to send the pdf files and every browser i have has the same issue
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if you tell me the map I'll give you a direct link to the pdf
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: well the deathtrap one, because it lists the mob order decently
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: http://aardseekermaps.mygamesonline.org/deathtrap_seekers.pdf
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can get the link yourself by viewing the page source in any browser
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: in the future if you need to, that is
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: thanks, I'll try that next time
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: does anyone know or use a soundpack for this mud? I have heard that there's one but haven't been able to find it.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: WinkleWinkle has developed a rudimentary sound pack, there are sounds for most channels, as well as a few other things. it's not super complex, but it does the job.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: https://code.google.com/archive/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads <- sound pack is near the bottom
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: awesome, Thanks a!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: mushclient right?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: at first wanted to make my own but was too lazy LOL
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So trying out Firefox Quantum. Pretty decent so far.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I liked it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Could convince me to ditch chrome, honestly
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If only Google and Mozilla could collaborate together...
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: What's the best new thing about it?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The speed.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And memory reduction.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's like saying if only Apple and Google would collab on a phone
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's small footprint and speed
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now it spawns more processes, previous version used 4 GB with single process, not I have 6 * firefox using similar amount of RAM
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Totally could bloat it out of control with plugins like any firefox though
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: hmmm might try it then
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Right now, 8 tabs open, only 5.41MB. And I've got a number of add-ons installed, too.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 10 tabs, 6 MB
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: does it synch favorites between computers?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that doesn't say much though what is loaded in each tab
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: youtube video? graphics? blank pages?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It syncs your Firefox account.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it's going to vary so much depending on what each tab has loaded
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It syncs accounts
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, that's true for any browser :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Facebook, Plex, Refdesk, Merriam Webster games...
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hmm much like chrome works it seems. Gonna give it a try.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 22 windows, but I do not know how to count tabs (maybe CPU threads? then 237)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Youtube, Reddit, Dictionary.com, W3C, Sierra Wirless SDK Webpage, Facebook, Twitter, Google, Stackoverflow, and Wikipedia
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sidenote, does not support Flash, so if you're into that kinky business... well, sorry, gonna have to find a new fetish.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it's honestly time for flash to die anyhow
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's BEEN time, for years.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Since before HTML5 came out.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: what replaces it neatly though?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: HTML5. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well I disagree with that, html5 is the predecessor
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: WebM and Canvases
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so flash had to exist until at least it came around :p
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Years of dev work in Flash can't easily be converted
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: plus there's the pandora's box concept once something is out there it never goes away
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes it can
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: All flash development is for the last 6 ish years has been copy and paste
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You actually only have to convert a small subset to rewrite entirely
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Depends on the apps complexity, how small a subset we talking?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Again, it's not about the app's complexity. It's all a copy/paste of smaller parts. Convert those smaller parts, and the whole becomes converted.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't require a top-down rewrite, it in fact just requires a transpiler
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Go any good resources?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Quick Example: https://as3js.org/
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actionscript -> ES6 transpiler
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You should listen to Cheezburger. His job depends on things like this. *shifty*
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty sure he'd know what he was talking about when it comes to things like this.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: There a way to cancel a pathfinding loop when You accident do a mapper goto/next from a room that's impossible? I alread lowered the Depth to 100 so MUSH doesn't crash
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: technically the script could be sent through a lua coroutine to release control back to the client each step but it doesn't atm
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: nor would there ever be any need for it to
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Daak: tell me about your computer and OS please
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: what os are you in?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Arch Linux, using Wine
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wine version what
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's arch, so I'd wager towards bleeding edge version :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I try not to guess
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: 2.21
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but it's arch :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 8srun
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger turns out to be a lemming and 8fails himself. Loser.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so...wine shouldn't crash. Pwar is right that it currently doesn't use a coroutine and it could. I think I'd accept a pull request that adds that as long as it doesn't do anything else
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: er rather mushclient shouldn't crash
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It doesn't crash, BUT after it's on DEpth 75 or so, it starts going very slow, never makes it to depth 300 because I kill the process, would probably take 3 days to get there
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's nuts
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Sounds like a memory leak
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Daak mine was doing the same thing with default wine distributed with my debian distro
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: my workaround is depth to 100 and at least it's only a 5 minute wait
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's no memory leak
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: when I switched to wine-staging 2.19 it improved massively
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have depth set to 300 and an unfound path never takes more than like 5 seconds
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ok, I'll make sure I got the prefix right, might be on an older version, I have a bunch of versions installed ATM, heh
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's why I've never bothered to wrap pathfinding in a coroutine
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: only when hdd is busy you can experience slow path calculation
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: lol depends entierly on the system
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: while (~exitCommandFound) do foo :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's true, and, um...slightly on purpose...
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well I had the same issue trach on two ssds on raid stripe0, in my case it was an issue with the version of wine
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: by busy hdd I mean for example when you do hdd backup with Acronis 
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also IIRC with my Duron 1.2 using Bast was slowing down Mush
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: All you fancy schmancy people using all these plugins! Why, I dare say, I MUD barebones telnet! Pfft. Back in my day...
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You joke, but i'm on telnet atm :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nerds
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I use a raw socket connection and read all the terminal codes to get the full experience
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you guys are missing out.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: yes well this is the tech channel
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Pwar.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: might as well be "nerd channel"
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You guys remember Tenchi?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Dude used to mud, telnet only, without color
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I thought this was Abelinc's ct?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: nothing wrong with nerds, we live in a golden age of nerds you know
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nerds will inherit the earth
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Once we nuke the rest of them
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: nerds already did, earthlings.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: My dubstep is 56k modem.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so anyway, on the subject of wine, IMO anyone running with Wine should be using wine-staging
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I refuse to use anything -staging :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: -stable or bust
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: stable doesn't mean much as it hasn't been tested specifically with mush for instance
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: who's going to be in London at the beginning of December then ? ^-^
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, I magine 8.788 million people will be in London at the start of December.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Give or take a few.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I mean from here
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: for the convention
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Teaches bad habits
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: who?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: it's going to be a big one
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: u.k is in trouble
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what convention
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: which as we all know, can be exploited when panic arises
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: uhrm
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: black hat convention?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, U.K. get civilized! there is no need for panic or fear if you are living in democratic country
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's hilarious
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I think it's fitting it's in london at the end of this year when u.k is about to go to war with europe
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hosting Black Hat EUROPE in London is too funny
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: after brexit
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: big cash opportunity!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: sounds scary
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Europe has more problems than just brexit
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: black hat convenbtion
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I would not want to go to black hat
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or europe
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: it's normally in u.s
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: they hate our freedom
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: this year it's in u.k
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Europe has a severe shortage of tacos
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: because there is no more freedom in US
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I tried to order a steak in a restaurant in the US and a woman in a hat that said COEXIST slapped me and shoved broccoli in my mouth
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: did you at least get your freedom fries?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that really happened
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no she said they were socialism fries now
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: bah
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I just sit back and laugh as .gov gets more and more "digitalised" as the years tick past
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: and watch the show
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: what show?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger points at Trump.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The oompa loompa show, of course.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: what does a fart look like in binary?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 000000000000000000001
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are phones with thermal camera (Caterpillar ones) and there is one demo how fart looks like :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, in that case the image could be blobbed into binary, and you have a literal fart in binary.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now i feel like i need this in my life
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: right on!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Something tells me I shouldn't google "thermal fart image" at work though
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i really don't want to explain that to HR
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you're at work?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Q9HbYbut8 , start watching at 9:16
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: But you can explain to HR that you play aard now?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is Cat S60 review
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Aard doesn't use port 80, 443, or 8080 they have no idea what I'm doing, and as far as they're concerned it's code-related :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ok, regarding the pathfinding, turns out I had MUSHClient running in 1.92 and not 2.21, in 2.21 it hits Depth within a few seconds. Thanks for the help before
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Why do you have wine clobbered with so many versions? :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: well technically FART is a valid base 36 number so in binary will be 10101110010001001001
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: nice Daak good to hear :)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Fathers Against Rude Television
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Play on Linux and certain games wanting certain wine versions
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I prefer 00000000000000000000001
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can configure playonlinux to use wine-staging also and I think it's actually better
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nods, i tell PoL to use a set version
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Typically regressions don't happen in PoL
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So going forward hasn't been a real issue
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: The 2nd part of it was I didn't have multilib added to pacman, so the package wasn't updated
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fun -h...but mythbusters busted the thermal farting video...https://mythresults.com/reddit-special :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc, should I use reddit?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think 4chan is more your speed
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: ooh ok
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: anyone know a phone that can copy a fight?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy a fight?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i use blowtor h
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd imagine his is lemonparty. :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: pleiades is a /pol/
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no habla
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty sure he wants to copy output in general.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: he trolls for libertarians then calls his congressman about lootboxes in battlefront
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, but mudinfo note standings numbers were rather low
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: type q, tab, m, tab
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: In MUSHclient, can you repeat a previous entry via bash-like !<wildcard>, not the last input, but search back through the history and run whatever matches
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yes it s a setting i think 
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: settings.. input.. commands.. auto-repeat last command or something like that
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Not what I'm after. Don't want to repeat the last command, I want to repeat the last command that started with <wildcard>, for example, if I do, scan, kill foo, scan, where foo, want to be able to enter !k to run kill foo
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: not sure how to do that :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: this is all you need to know how to do.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6xmolPuUo
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can type something you've entered and hit tab and tab complete will sometimes work for that
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: or you can hit ctrl+h and search from there
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Could write a script using GetCommandList().
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: using the Find button
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: thanks, that's a start, think I found an alias to handle it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: my W key is opening my menu hoW do i disable
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: linux 17 cinnomon
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: like your menu bar? it sounds like your alt key might be stuck
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: if i press alt by it self it jumps
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: the screen
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: have you just tried restarting mush?>
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: or is it persistant
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: its all ever... even email n such
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: over
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: try mashing the windows key and alt key alternatively on your keyboard sometimes I have had success with that when it thinks the alt key is stuck down and it will reset it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: and i am using a flash client
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Try rebooting everything.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: Will try both
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: no change 
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you have Windows "stickykeys" turned on? It's easy to turn on by accident.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: after reboot even? maybe your keyboard is pooped? or else mint has some weird "feature" I've never used it so I can't say
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: he's in Linux mint 17 Cinnamon
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh is it Linux? Never mind then.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: could try a different keyboard if you have one in the house
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: nope halfWay house lol
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You want it to not open system menu?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: yes!!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: from Menu, heh, type shortcut (open Keyboard settings)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: click Shortuct tab
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: blank..
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: what Category was it in for you?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: if i understand correctly keyboard?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: was there a shortcut tab?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: in middle yes
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: categories on the left, did you find open system menu in there?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: keyboard shortcuts keyboard binding
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: log out shutDOWN n stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: suspend?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: happen to know what version of Cinnamon is in Linux Mint 17?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Looks like might be 2.2, I'm on 3.6 so our menus are different, ugh
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: sounds about right
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so it's by default set up to open system menu when he presses just "W"?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: should i just diable it all?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: disable lol
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: ugh idk lol o WELL
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: thanks for taking the time and trying to help
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: sorry couldn't be of more help... if you think it's a key stuck you could try running sudo showkey -s in a console to see if it shows keys being pressed and released
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: hoW do i do that?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: open a terminal and do "sudo showkey -s"
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is there a group spellup plugin floating around for AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: how do i stack hp/mana/moves/etc instead of having them in a long row?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: and the same with stats as i like it better horzontally
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: horizontally
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if you mean in prompt?? you can use %c to add carriage returns to custom prompt
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: not sure what you mean with in prompt but i mean changing the status bar so it stacks instead of it being unstacked
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: nvm found it out
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh status bar, you didn't specify :)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: and i didn't RTFM 
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: you mean on the client?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I was wondering why you'd want hp mana and moves on seperate lines :p
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: says right on the plugin page to right click and select stack to stack xD
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: remember kids, always RTFM even if it can be annoying :-P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, shorting out car batteries is awesome, although not always ideal to the application at hand
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arrdwolf rolls on the floor laughing at Real ninja Starling's antics!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You know how to really damage somebody's car?   Connect cables to battery terminals.  Connect one side of other end of cables (negative) to vehicle frame, short positive cable to either the engine crankshaft pulley, or perhaps a wheel.  Forces that arc to go through the bearings and burn them up.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: poor exhausted sleep deprived Starling
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yes :(
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: sounds like somebody had a bad breakup
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that was 5 years ago
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm pretty much over it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arrdwolf tosses a bottle of beer at Real ninja Starling ... let's just hope she'll catch it!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: is there a Way to make the Fmud client bigger?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: are you able to download, Swamptrash?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: NOPE
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: using the flash client from 443
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: there is something wrong with my client and i dont know how to fix it... the client recieves infor but doesnt give me things like my moves or time to next quest and stuff when prompted
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: try prompt all
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: nah is ok... ill try again later
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: prompt all resets your prompt
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: help prompt
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: if your not going to use the answer, don't ask the question
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Edgy
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: tense
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: how are you prompting your client to give you the information? like what command are you using for that? im curious...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I appologise I am a bit stressed right now, sorry Aldehyde
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: so i installed a new plugin and i can type in commands, but it doesnt give my prompt anymore... like hp mana and quest timer
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: how can i fix that?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type prompt ?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: why would it do that though?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess some of your plugins turned it off (maybe it was trying to examine settings or changing its settings)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: whats the plugin called that tracks exp rate and vorpals and gold per minute and stuff?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that sounds like bast's stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also sharptracker does that (but sharptracker is really simple plugin, though simple enough if you want to modify it a bit)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: bast one only does per hour summary, probably sharp tracker you are looking for
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: hello, i got a trigger question:  i made a trigger for DISARMS you and sends your.    and for the send: get dagger wear dagger,   it doesnt always work if the text is red or cyan color, i have match set to any, bold italic off, so what am i doing wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you could make a screenshot from that trigger. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k591/Coeus26/disarm_zpsnloiwrhj.jpg
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: try *DISARMS you*
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: okies
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, MUSH is looking for ONLY DISARMS you in that case. You need the * in front and behind it.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: nope doesnt work still
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Is it just not firing? Or how are you testing it?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: im fighting these mobs that disarm
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Okay, and is it just not firing?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: ya
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Color of text shouldn't matter with the trigger.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: i think its the color, the game uses cyan
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley is psychic.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You could even test it's not the color by turning colors off and letting the mob disarm you again.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not sure what to tell you, because that trigger should work.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: ok with color off, its works
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: even the sound wav i set up fired off
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: yay!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: but its no color :(
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's super weird then, that it fires when color is off, but not when colors are on.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: didnt you go to edit if your playing blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You don't have it searching for color in your trigger. Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: it shows all the numbers firing
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Color codes are ignored with triggers, unless you request to specifically match a certain color.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Vaevictus: Are you using the AardMUSH package?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: i think so?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: i downloaded mushclient from the aardwolf site
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Just tested on my end, fired for colored and non-colored.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, I see why now.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You unticked Bold/Italic/Inverse. You shouldn't have.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Tick those options again, and it will work.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: ok, ill go test it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: not working anymore
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Delete what you have. Copy the text here, and click 'Paste' in the trigger windows. https://pastebin.com/fwxkUc4R
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If /that/ doesn't work, then you have a setting somewhere that's messing with it, and I wouldn't know which one.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So yeah, pretty sure Quantum is replacing Chrome as my preferred browser.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: it probably will for alot of people untill chrome responds in kind.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: I've always used FF on windows and Chrome on Linux. Chrome just handles better on most linux variants then FF does. As of yesterday, I'm FF across the board.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: What config should I toggle to hide coordinates when moving and the chan ch=channelName for channel messages? It somehow started appearing and no idea how tu do something about it.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: sounds like your plugins that use that info aren't working
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: have you recently changed anything?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: yeah, I removed lots of plugins related to map stuff. I'm going to use them as well, but want to know how to turn it off just in case
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can use tags to toggle on and off various messages that you're referring to
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: tags coords
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: oh super interesting, Thanks a lot!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: interesting.. I'm surprised there's no gmcp equivilents for these tags that seems like it would be easy to implement
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Speaking of tags, does vanilla AardMUSH not use roomchars?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it does not
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: at least mine doesn't :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it probably doesn't need it cause it can get the room info from GMCP in the background
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Have a MUSHClient trigger (plugin) that should be firing on some text, but it's not.  Can anyone think of any clever tricks to figure out what else would be preventing this?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe if you show the text and the trigger pattern
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: You mean here in the channel?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Oh, it should be firing on "You are not on a global quest."
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And your match?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: match="You are not on a global quest."
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: regexp="n"?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Not regexp
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: shouldn't matter
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I guess that's true
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: should be you are not in a global quest i think
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Trigger is part of a group that does get turned on.  As soon as it fires, the group should turn off, but that trigger never fires... *boggle*
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: zoot is correct
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish enthusiastically high-fives Zoot!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: HAHAHAHA
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: When testing triggers, I always try "echo " command, can copy and paste from the trigger.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Ahem... thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I wonder if that was a typo that was changed or I just overlooked it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess the "clever trick" in this case is to make sure that you know what the text is
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Guess I was constantly looking for a more complex problem and I overlooked a simple part
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Occam's Razor
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I'd rather make myself look stupid here in Tech than to bash my face into my keyboard for the next couple hours not solving it though
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ehh - lot of times we are quick to spot errors like that because we've made them ourselves :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Haha fair enough
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But you see why verbal descriptions of what you are trying to do are less useful than direct copying and pasting :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Yeah, you're right
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Though I stand by my suspicion that MUD message might have changed at some point during the couple years I haven't been playing.  I swear that trigger worked before.  lol
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it didn't.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's always been in, not on
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: darn
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah Gquests were completely revamped, very likely that changed.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I know quite a few changed.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The entire message might be different, but it was never "on the global quest"
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Bast's stuff has a copy-paste of the old messages too which says "on"
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a way with mapper to cause a direction to trigger the mapper command?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: for example in ft2 with fstar... can i make it where i type down and it launches the cexit?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you just cexit it, it should use it anyways
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: the best way is to auto create a cexit
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: let me elaborate... I have a script that when I go a direction (using the numpad) autoopen doors when 'the * is closed'
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: is easy to add to that a autocreate a cexit
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmm I didn't know that was allowed or I would have thought it would already be in the mapper functionality
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: if you ALWAYS do that it could be a problem, so I added a plag to it 'I am exploring' or 'not exploring'
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: flag*
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: fiendish... no problems with 5.6 pre ?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define problems
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it crashes once a day
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is that a question or a statement?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: a definition i think
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: or an example probably
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: KitCarson: are you asking me if the latest mushclient crashes once per day?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: staement... mine mush which never crashed for a month+, now crashes once a day (more or less)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: give me more information about your computer
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: win xp
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 32bit
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you can laugh :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hah, theres your guy running xp that you were looking for fiend :p
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: ie... 4 score and five hundred years ago :P
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: KitCarson: what release version are you using?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the OS that is more malware than Microsoft now.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I booted up my XP laptop the other day to pull files from it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Need to replace the LCD backlights
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 5.06 pre... the last (no... the previous one) you released
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: They are fluorescent tubes and apparently don't glow so well anymore :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 5.06-pre is not meaningful data. type checkversion
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1944
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry, thought we were speaking about mush vers
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: package version is a build of mush
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: KitCarson: did you see my note on mudinfo about testers for a mushclient experiment?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: my fault... I missed it :(
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: don't worry about that. please try the download in that note
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let me know if the problem goes away or not
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: there is a lod or a dump I can help you with ?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mudinfo note 1750
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ok... downloadiùng it... too late in the nite to upgrade now :) you'll have my news tomeooùrrow 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: take some Jet Alert and stay up
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: starling speak as you eat... or at least as I drink :)=
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i wonder if any skyscraper has slides for going down fast
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: fun and fast
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrleth Tech: A lot of tech places have slides
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Anybody particularly familiar with ZMQ socket options?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: New firefox out?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Any opinions on it?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Has been.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: very nice. very fast.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's different and I hate change
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's convinced me to switch back from Chrome.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: raded is a h8r :(
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: does it still slow down and die from watching youtube vids?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Quit being obtuse, Raded.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Firefox 57, I believe it is?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Firefox Quantum is 57, yes.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded looks at Rex Daemon Crowley and goes "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It'll be about damned time if they fixed that issue.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What issue?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's fixed memory issues, for sure.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Plus, Starling, you can open up 100 tabs now and not have to worry much!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I usually have 100 to 150 tabs open, heh
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrleth Tech: Why would you ever open a hunred tabs?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Because she does that.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrleth Tech: Fair enough
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I read a lot
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Plus have lots of tabs open for information reference, e.g. Lua stuff, roominator, aardwiki areas list, nick gammon website, lots of science/physics/electrics random stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I can't read.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: audio mud
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: use the vi stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: duh
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I can't understand when people talk to me.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: quit snorting ketamine
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: It is only one of my problems.  The other is related to ZMQ in Cray's chapel language.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: If someone knows the proper way to set a socket timeout for a REQ/REP, it would help me.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Though I suspect they haven't added it to the language yet.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: 300$ headphones insides.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yizB0zVyQN6rQJo1bMfXthjYuSRaf8v9
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: total 25$?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: probably less
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: gonto walmart and buy fabric softner
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh someone did a teardown of some beats headphones, all components total cost was $16
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and 4 metal weights inside
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm surprised it was that much
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well sure, the weights make them feel like they're built solid
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i try to repair mine now
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: dre beats "mono-phones"  ?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: JBL headphone are garbage as well, the metal band on the outside has no structural significance at all, it's purely cosmetic and glued on.  The earphones are held on by two thin pieces of cheap plastic that break during normal use and can't be fixed.  Absolute crap.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: i seriously pmsl when I see anyone wearing those pamella anderson tit headphones
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I walk around wearing sony mx 120's
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: worth about $200 and it's all cash to frequency response
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I'm using bone conduction headphones from Trekz
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Err, AfterShokz
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the headphones I'm using now, I had to sets but one broke and the other's connector broke, it was fun soldering the cable conductors together.  Lots of heatshrink and electrical tape though :P
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: quality products don't break like that
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: are there *any* durable, quality headphones, because it seems like even the hundreds-of-dollars ones are cheap crap.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: yeah if you go dre
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i advertised a set to a friend as "unbreakable". the next day the cable split
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: look into sony or technics
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: tech -h
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: technics is #1 pro DJ choice
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: like the 1210's
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: eh. many are good
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: I have a 20 year old pair of sennheiser's that I've replaced the earpads and cable a couple times (designed to be replaced)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my dad used the headphones from a C130 cockpit that he adapted to have a regular headphone plug...not great audio quality but they lasted forever ;-)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: honestly, one of the best sets of headphones I've had (still have) are a cheapie 20 dollar pair of Sony's
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You step on them by accident and the earphone pops off, but it's held on by a metal pin and as long as you don't lose that, you can make it go back together with more or less effort
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: if you liked sony, you will be even happier with Technics
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: my coworker had a model of beyerdynamics that looked like from 50s. sounded awesome. never needed a cable repair
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: serious pro DJ audio hardware
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: I have a beyerdynamic headset that I've used for probably 1k hours with no problems too
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: technics make the infamous 1210's that are used in the DMC (world DJ championships)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: and their headphones are just as serious
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i have been using a logitech g230 headset for 5 years before a minor part broke.  cable is nylon wrapped, won't split. bought another pair immediately when these got small damage. still haven't taken it out of the shipping box because these aren't damaged enough
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the cable issue was easy to fix, just need to be delicate with the soldering iron.  It drives me up the wall that when the cheap plastic breaks, there's literally no adhesive that will make it go back together again.  You can't even clamp it because of the stupid cosmetic details getting in the way.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: erm well, if your going to invest in a serious piece of audio hardware it makes sense to look after it no and not "accidentally tread on it" ?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: accidents happen...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yeah, no, I need something that has a bit of disaster-proofing
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: This is me we're talking about
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: plastic breaks, metal twists
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not if the steel is thick enough
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: my advice would be to find a mid range cost from sony and stick with them
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: if they break beyond repair, buy another set
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: technics is pro level
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: sony is next best and value for dollar
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: Arrdwolf, there are many better brands
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: dozens
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: like dre beats?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm skeptical of "flashy" headphones, they 'look' durable, but it's so easy to disguise cheap, brittle crap with cosmetic details
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: depends on taste
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: frequency range output at decibel levels is most cost efficient in sony
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: care to educate me otherwise?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: honestly, a pilot headset with better sound quality would be pretty much ideal
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You don't just "break" aviation headsets
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You pretty much have to destroy them, or else crash the plane in which case you have bigger problems
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You say that now but what happens when you fly your house into the side of a mountain??
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: depends on taste if you are after music. or if eq puritan - dt48 or .. whatever. i dont know those really
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I think you will find headsets used in aeronautics have extremely limitid frequency range and thus would suck for all music except classical and tbh, who gives a fuck about classical music
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I also wonder if an aviation headset would be shitty for music
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't know, I'll let you know when I put engines and wings on it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: with the original speakers, of course it would.  You'd have to change them out.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: if you have a soldering iron, electrical tape and can switch out headphone drivers, why not just build your own set??
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: have considered that also
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: classical music is some of the most demanding on headphones...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but aero headsets are designed for voice
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: this guy is so noob it's unreal
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, you can replace the speakers in the headsets if you want the industrial durability with better sound quality
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Probably easier (and maybe cheaper?) just to get a wireless set
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wireless set takes the connector out of the equation, but not the rest of the breakability
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah I came in on this conversation midway, I'm not sure where Starling's set broke.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: wow, abelinc and I are agreeing on a lot lately.  Has someone replaced him with an Agreeable Abe?  Or maybe a Sensible Starling.  It can't be the latter so it has to be Agreeable Abe.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling peers at you intently. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're saying less wrong stuff lately }:>
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: abelinc agrees with you when you are speaking the facts. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: unpossible
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: controlled confirmed facts
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: LISTEN if you want to build your own, go buy 8" headphone drivers made with kevlar, slap them into a titanium custom frame and attach the jack, otherwise stick to technics (for pro quality) or sony (for next best)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 8 inch headphone drivers? :p
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 8" headphone drivers...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: yes...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I guess we know what Arrdwolf thinks 8 inches is
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: obviously none of you have built your own headphones in the past
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: please keep it professional, metria
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: umm.. there are dozens of better brands than sony and technics
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sony maybe used to be good quality, but they have really slipped over the last 2 decades
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I highly doubt you have, either, Arrdwolf.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: yeah like dre beats
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: beats are the best
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: if you have, i know for a fact you didnt use 8 inch drivers :p
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: they're made by dr dre
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hell yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: My laptop has beats speakers.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: and sounds like a reatrded mouse squeaking, yeah great
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: I have the Beats Chris Brown Signature Edition
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Mine doesn't sound like a retarded mouse.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: omfg
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley pats Arrdwolf on his head.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you put them on and get a black eye?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: sony has a few good models and i think 2 legendary.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thats not much really
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: none of you have a clue about pro audio tech
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: oh yeah?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Everybody brace yourself, we're about to be schooled
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: we are
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Neither do you, so quit frontin' like you have a clue.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my living room speakers are audiopro :P
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Full-blown Celebrity sits corrected
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: my walkman is better than yours
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I'm saving up for a portable CD player now
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I know how to operate 48 channel mixers from the master volume to the frequency ranges to the queue timers, actually
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Duh, set it all to 11.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: pro style
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: DUDE
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: my gf bought this little like idk lunch bag looking thing with speakers in it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc used to have an AudioPro 1200 for gigs
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and inside driving the speakers was a walkman!!!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh wow, I am SO IMPRESSED!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: like an 80's walkman
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Abelinc used to be in a band called 1023 megabytes, they didn't have any gigs
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Walkmans are coming back into style. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea this one is sweet
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: yes if you are homosexual
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: so retro
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Yeah - not appropriate Arrd :P
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: like those that lick dre's ass and pay $300 for $10 worth of tech, g style
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Eminem and another artist released albums out on cassette.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my walkman still works...but I also have a panasonic portable CD player which has SCSI built in to connect to computer :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Eminem is the great white american hope
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Mom's spaghetti
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Reminds me of Bloodhound Gang's "Great White Dope"
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do like decent audio equipment :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: o.k
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but I buy $20 earphones
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: let me get this right...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You need some gold plated MONSTER CABLES
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yea, get it right
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i bought a set of sennheisers to my brother 10 years ago, i think he used them to test his new lawnmower. still working fine:)}
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sennheiser makes good headphones...then again, they've always had a $10k pair as an option :P
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: abelkinc is 1. a top lawyer, 2.an old school biker gangster 3. an old skool dj 4. a womaniser 5. a tech ninja 6. a hardcore underground coder 7. anything he dreams in his sad lonely imagination
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do buy 10-20 dollar earphones 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they assemble those in germany. so. thats why they are expensive
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You give Abelinc too much credit.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewDaddy Korridel Tech: Let's not personally attack (even if it's mild).
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: He's only a second rated lawyer.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: he's full of shit
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do havea poster of abelinc and chuck norris in my room
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: he has a 5 star rating on airbnb
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: my heroes
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You're treading on ice, Arrd.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: my OS/2 screensaver... it's abelinc
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd stop while you were ahead.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I've got pretty good credentials for 4 of those things, anyway :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and the reason I buy 20 dollar earphones is because I lose them too often
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: considering I actually put effort into understanding instead of impressing, I can tell a fake a billion miles off
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you buy a 100|$ ones once. youll not gonna lose those
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: and abelinc is a HUGE fake
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I have so many headphones here. Wireless, wired, over-the-ear, in-ear... so many.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: oh yes I will
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: probably a scamster
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yet you buy 8" headphone speakers...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: gb Arrdwolf!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Seriously, Arrdwolf, an Imm has already told you to knock it off.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I lost two pairs of shure 535s in a few months
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: then I lost a pair of goldrings
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: then I lost my AKGs
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: long live the fakers then
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: bye
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: so, $20 earphones it is :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Good riddance.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the 8" headphone drivers thing was classic
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: someone needs to put that on aardquotes
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: arddquotes?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: then we can all upvote it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Can't downvote them anymore.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daoine quote's replacement
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I just lose crap when I travel :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think he was being funny and misspelled arrd.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only Shure equipment I have is XLR microphones
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I used to buy their earphones
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (SM58s)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: those are spit and bang-proof
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to go into the pro audio gear I don't have for when I didn't make money as a DJ ;-)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: if you spit on your headphones, you have issues.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: because I like the foam they use, vs silicone
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and I like in-ears
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: kids. when soldering, wear glasses! a junk of that stuff just exploded everywhere
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: or close your eyes. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, solder by feel
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kash puts on a pair of 8" headphones.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the weird thing about those 300$ phones are that there was no mechanism to prevent the wear and tear. the wire was pretty much hanging on the solder. not even a nut.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i guess they assume if you pay that much, you'll gonna baby them 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea people are always saying things like "you get what you pay for", nah most of the time you get a LOT less than what you paid for
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they just ask as much they can. its ok
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: theres a sweet spot with things like that, and a lot of companies charge that much because they know people will pay it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if i'd make a headphone company, i would rip your behind off so bad you wont be able to tell your mom. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: honestly it shouldnt be difficult for a company to make a $100 pair of headphones using around 50-60$ worth of parts and make money doing it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you think they're using $60 worth of parts, I have a nasty surprise for you
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you're paying for sound quality usually
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: metria it was hypothetical
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: of course, there are many companies that dont give you that
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I came to a realization tonight
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: when arrdwolf described all the different jobs that abelinc has
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn rules over this land of Arwolf with an iron fist.  Hrm.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: sound quality comes from the quality of the drivers used, in most cases they use drivers that cost a few dollars per pair
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I started to realize he must be what "in living color"'s "Hey Mon" is based on
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: production cost? you have to factor in R&D
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's like saying medicine companies sell medicine that costs <1c to produce
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: does abelinc have a jamaican accent?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i guess if r&d is "buy the cheapest headphone driver you can find, make a frame and put weights in it" then sure
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only when marley is playing
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats worth millions right there
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades grins evilly at you.  Hmmm.  Better keep your distance. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: ok. i broke those 300$ phones forgood now
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: crap. so fn crap
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: those were grados
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: so you know
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but what we're all dying to know is how big were the drivers?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: grados are nice
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: damnit what is that site that has all the audio stuff that i can never remember the name of?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: 3cm drivers. or less
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: musician's friend ftw
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yeah. unrepairable now. hell with them. cable broke twice. the rod got loose. tried to solder. a thing broke there when tried to adjust a wire. they suck. w
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: which model of pioneer mixer would be best for my 3 1210's rig?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: mixing heavy dark drum and bass
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well it depends on how big your speakers are. Are they at least 8"?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: how big? sorry sir, I was under the impression that size doesn't matter
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's just what your mommy tells you to make you feel better
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: touche
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you shouldn't touche it, that's dirty
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: like your mom
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You jump in the air and give a BIG high five to Compromus!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you know her?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: d00d you connected with nothing but ur mom
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: I was also under the impression that 8 inches was a joke (as in far too big to haNDLE)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your sister handles 10" just fine }:>
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Only if I fold it in half!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc fires off a rimshot
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: does bast have an update/fix for the opk bonus in quest?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i thought it worked i his latest version?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are there any other wireless earphones like the samsung iconx with inbuilt storage so you don't have to have a music player?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: is there an easy way with bast's eqsets to recalculate the scores for eq? ex. after a class change?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone remember the command that shows all the memory usage for currently running scripts?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc it's part of Bast's stuff, so you only have the command if you've got his stuff loaded
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hahaha that broke mushclient for me
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: need to backup everything before I run that again.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: makes memory use less of a problem if mush quits
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not really
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: is there a way to increase the timeout time so i don't time out just cause i end uo using a little too long time reasing something?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You shouldn't time out just reading something...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It takes a LONG time to time out as a result.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a timer which just hits "enter" every 10 mins and you won't get logged off for inactivity
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: well, i happens occaisionally that if i don`t do any activity and just read the communication loog i end up getting logged out
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s-VHStyemo
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: keep alive timers is bad idea, unless it is executed in a safe room
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: seems most MUD have a auto log out after a couple of minutes which i kinda find annoying tbh >-<
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sitting around idle only wastes resources
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: resources are dirt cheap nowadays though.  This isn't 1998.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's 15-20 minutes, not a couple minutes
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are those resources otherwise doing?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: ofc, i understand why there's timeout but i like when they are adjustable the same way as the game speed is
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i see
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommend timer rather than the trigger that the video uses, as it wastes less resources ;-)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: imagine you are in a room and you drown, then your corpse stays in that room and keep alive timer happily keeps you on till it rots
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i see^^
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have a trigger on my 'tick' output that sends a CR
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 10 minute timer means that it doesn't have to scan every line coming from the MUD for a match...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is even more dangerous situation, you are in aggro room and go afk and your keep alive timer turns you into bot :P
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's on the player to avoid, though
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just running a spellup script will ordinarily keep you logged in...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: unless you use afk
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have you done testing to see whether running a timer or a trigger makes any difference?  Mush seems to not really hiccup with thousands of triggers....
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've happily stayed connected 24/7 for over a decade without any bad things
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, right, however spellup plugin won't rot your corpse if you die
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: afk as currently implemented is retarded
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my spellup script would :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: wow, I'm glad I didn't say that, but I agree ;)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it really shouldn't lock everything out
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It should allow you to cast spellup spells, for sure.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a great concept, an immediately-visual cue that the player isn't there to talk to, with a message...but gimping the player for a minute or 2 when they come back means there's no way I'd ever use it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: A huge percentage of the MUD probably refuse to use AFK just for that reason alone.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it would be nice to transfer player into safe zone (manor, aylor) when he is really AFK - I mean when he has not sent any command for 5 minutes or so
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a plugin for that, actually
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to my website, click scripts...scroll to the bottom for MUSHclient plugins, very last one, autosafe
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have an 'uncommanded aggro' script that can disconnect me if I don't respond to it within a few seconds
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: so my phone isnt setup as google suggested. i need to get rid of scroll back settings off
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, neat
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i have no clue about any of this scrips and trigger bussiness yet so i will have to look into that at some time later i guess ^^"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: springfield: are you using the aardwolf MUSHclient package on a computer?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: well, i think so, i downloaded and installed sooo
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one with the clicky map on the right, the chats at the top, etc.?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK good...that's a good base for the scripts we're referencing...they're pretty easy to add
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there are only 3 commands that will tell that script to disregard - kill, backstab, brandish.  Combat starting for other reasons makes it trip.  I could add thief skills to it as well but too lazy
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: by what i have seen it seem pretty straight forward but i just haven't read up on it's use yet...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: alas, brandish isn't very good now that it has that obscene 6 second lagtime
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 6 second? Didn't last that long for me.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what she said
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: xD
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Thought Lasher upped the lag on brandish to 2 full rounds, i.e. 6 seconds?  Or did he revert that after fixing the issues leading up to it?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Think he changed it back.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 3 second lag.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: btw, just wondering, is there a way to pipe different channels into their own log or? unlikely i know but had to ask^^"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: soooo....
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: somethinv to do with color
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i see
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish (the guy who maintains the client) has a tutorial for that on his site
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for now it requires duplicating the plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i see, seems reasonable
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Communication-log-window#creating-multiple-log-windows
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some places to get some great info on using the client: http://abelinc.me/aardclientfaq, http://abelinc.me/mapper, http://abelinc.me/hosch
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (note that http://abelinc.me is just my tinyurl-like thing...if you put a ~ after any of those URLs, it'll show you where it points rather than taking you straight there)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: since most windows here is a plugin you could put a fork or redirect on the communication log onbe and have it redirect or copy the input into another plugin that sort out different channels based on channels names is the first thing i would though would be a way do it ^^
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: though i guess that is jkust overcomplicated solution
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: just
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it would need to actually make that other window first...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: yeah, fair point
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's really about the same thing as Fiendish's method of duplicating the comm log plugin, and having one not use the channels that the other uses...that duplication handles all the drawing, right-click options, etc.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i see^^
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: well, am lazy atm so i think i might decide to stick with how it is atm cause i like to suffer apparently >_<
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: can you help me with phones keyboard. i need half the screen
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: make LOTS of buttons
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: and use button sets to set up multiple grouped pages
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: got everything but the text. its small and default?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone good with writing a plugin? I am looking to have a group spellup plugin where I can spellup everyone in a group for epics and so on insteaf of having to type all the names for the members in the group.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I think that is botting Turie
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't even need a plugin for that.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it is botting, screw it.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's not botting.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: doesn't sound like botting to me
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: It's not botting
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's only botting if you do it on command.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: It might be, before you go further I would check it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Tol: It's not botting.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: It's simply directing the spellup command to a group member.  Would be a pretty simple script to write, honestly
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regarding spellups on others...if the groupmates trigger it, then it's botting...if you trigger it, then it's not botting
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I believe he just wanted to be able to manually direct spellups to the group instead of having to type each name out.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: That's what I read out of the question.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: for _,members in pairs(gmcp("group.members")) do Send("spellup " .. members.name) end
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: In AardMUSH, is it possible save layout of miniwindows and such in 2 forms (1 for when I have my desktop plugged into larger screen, and 2 for when not?) and switch between easily?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aard layout help
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Nice!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a newish feature, so upgrade if you don't see it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Got it, thanks much.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Does anyone know of a good quest/campaign stat tracker for MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: besides the bast one?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hadar updated Opochtli's sharptracker for the new exp bonuses as well
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to http://hadar.ninja to see that one
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but bast's statdb tracks everything nicely
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Any would be good, the one I installed isn't working correctly.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mushclient keeps crashing today, I wonder what is going on
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: give more information
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I would love to
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok so do it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: It happens when I am not looking and when its been on for more than an hour.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what OS
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it greys out and says that it has stopped responding and just hangs at the windows will look into it popup box.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Windows
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Windows what
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: windows 7 to be specific
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, I wish I had more information
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when did it start happening
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I think the first time I noticed it was a few days ago when I remoted into my computer and saw it frozen, but then not again until this morning when I turned my monitors on. But now it seems to be happening when I am just looking at other windows
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Spellup script?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: using the Winkle spellup script
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: had to stop using Bast's when I was running under wine for a memory leak
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: really?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, you were the one who helped me track down which plugin it was
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok uh...so...since you're not using wine right now maybe try switching back?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: also, the plugins command still nukes my client even under windows(another Bast special)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder why
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I never could figure it out
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it works fine for me
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it kills my client and jacks all of my setting
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you up to date with everything?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no idea what you are up to I am on r1920
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: package update check
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am using 1946
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am using the dll testing thing.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: working?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was going to do the testing thing until I started getting issues
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: brb updating
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: updated
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: make sure to update bast's plugins too
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Do you have a link for that Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for what?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Bast's updates
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: updating Bast's plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Try the command "bup check"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Basts stuff is updated also
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, the link for <anyone's> plugins is nearly always "finger <that person>"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was already at his Github I was just wondering if he had a nice updater like fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I meant from lundfu's question
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bast you'd just unzip the folder into your plugins fold, no installer
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: gotcha. I've got the updates installed but still see no spellup miniwindow. it's installed and I can access it using "bsp" commands, but no window. Any ideas on how to get the window back?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Add plug called miniwin_spellup in Bast folder
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: got that one installed, but still nothing
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: could it be behind another mini window?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try mspell spellup front, then mspell spellup show
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: sweet!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: got it back
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out http://abelinc.me/bastdocs for documentation on bast's stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i set a portal container?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: mapper help is thorwing me off for some reason
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: portal container?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so it knows what bag to grab the portals out of.  
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Unless you have a script for it, you can make an alias for each portal that gets it from the bag
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if you mean how to tell it what bag to get portals from, pretty sure you have to set that in each mapper portal individually.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: e.g. "mapper portal get portal aardbag-02;;hold portal;;enter;;rem portal;;put portal aardbag-02"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: right. the mapper portal command is just you telling the mapper, 'hey, when i do this sequence of commands, i end up in this room'
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mapper portals are just like cexits, and in fact are stored in the exits table as if they were exits
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's a bit of a pain to set them up, but once set you don't need to mess with them again, usually
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: protip: use a bag's id number for your portal aliases or commands you use. never get stuck trying to use the wrong bag
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: plugins still boots me even with the updates
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so for ecxample the am,mulet of aardwolf how would i make it so it took it right from my bag aard bag?  like mapper portal get amulet bag;amulet of aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: im having to redo my whole aard so all my stauff is redone
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I got an alias, use_portal %%1, take %%1 @portalbag, wear %%1, etcetc
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: for the special cases like aard amulet i have a specific alias: use_aard_portal - use_portal aard_amu_id
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I havent been bothered to fix it properly, so i manually switch it between use_portal and enter, depending on what portal im wearing
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hrm im sure there is some sort of thing online for it, im pretty sure i did something with it before like that
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i dont even know the command to use to list the portal!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: all the other help files are real good
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: idk, mapper portal --portal alias/string of commands seperated with double ;--
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just seems like there would be a mapper portalcontainer command
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: The "mapper help portals" command is just fine.  What you're confused about is that there is no built-in way to have a "portal bag" in the GMCP mapper.  You must have used another script at some point
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just make an alias called 'portal' that does what you need it to do, then use mapper portal portal <portalname>
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: And there's no reason for the mapper to have it.  It doesn't have any built in inventory management.  It is simply just a custom exit that links to the room you're in.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, here's 2 ways to handle it...(1) if you use bast's eq stuff, you don't have to put in the name of a container..."get <this item>" put "put <this item>" will automatigally use the right container
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, I'll do 3 ways...that's 1...(2) use a portal container variable...and in all of your mapper portal commands, use that variable...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (3) this is the one that I use...abstract the entire "use a portal" into an alias...then each of your mapper portal commands can be "do_portal_alias <this portal>", and the alias will handle everything...then if you change bags, get the portal wish, change your always-held portal, whatever change, you only have to change that alias
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria wildly nods at you... what else can you get him to agree to?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommend reading hosch's mapper page...http://abelinc.me/hosch
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: #3 is the way to do it. It's easiest to use, easiest to keep updated.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he goes throuhg the entire thought process for dealing with portals, starting simple and going to the step *JUST*  before the one that gets you to my (3)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many people write that alias to have the portal be the only argument...the one I use has both portal and portalbag as arguments, as I have some portals in one bag, and some portals in another bag because of overlapping keywords (itemID is not an option for me)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks!!! thgats the website i used firstr time i set this up
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i couldnt find it serching google, i kept coming up with something from gammon on a question and answert thread
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: with the mp01 and mp02 aliases
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's because Hosch's website is no longer up and you have to get it through archive.org
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: and couldnt figure it out
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's abstracted enough that it works on different characters with different wishes, portals and bags, as everything's a variable.../def do_portal_engine = /wake %; /eval /set portal_name=%1 %; /eval /set portal_container=%-1 %; /if (has_portal_wish=~"Y") /if (primary_portal=~portal_name) enter %; /return %; /endif %; /else /remdual %; /endif %; g $[portal_name] $[portal_container] %;/if (gmcp_room_info_num = 26151) d %; /endif %; wear $[portal_name] %; enter %; /if (has_portal_wish=~"Y") /wear_pri_portal %; /else /weardual %; /endif %; put $[portal_name] $[portal_container]
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Hey Dexx
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Using bast mushplugin, I keep getting "Trigger function "identify_redirect" not found or had a previous error." spammed at me, when I mouse over the eq window.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Any idea why that would be happening?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's not the actual error, that's the symptom you get after the real error. Did you get a different error message earlier?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try reloading the plugin then, see what happens
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I have to keep reopening mush after it happenes though, because now my screen isn't showing anything
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I can still see the chat window though.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type checkversion please
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1944
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: It seems to happen when I mouse over the eq window to much
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are your bast plugins up to date?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: we'll need to know what the first (actual) error message is
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I just downloaded them today, and when i log they say they are.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metria is right that the "previously had an error" message isn't what we need
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: it doesn't give me an error message, it just starts spamming the one I posted
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I'll reopen and replicate to try again, one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: anyone mind explaining what portalrecall and bounce portals are.. i'm a little confused
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i'm not sure what is going on with those guys
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you read 'mapper help search portalrecall'?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: not that particular help.. one moment
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Yea, no popup error message first message I see showing and error is "Trigger function "identify_redirect" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: some rooms are no_recall, some no_portal. Set bouncerecall to whatever recall command you want the mapper to try and exit with (e.g. home, recall). Set bounceportal to whatever portal you want to exit with if the room happens to be no_recall
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Oh wait.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I will note it to you fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: please note it publicly
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: other people should also have the chance to offer assistance
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Publically, which board then?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tech
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunpeal: check out http://abelinc.me/mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh i see
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: some rooms.. no recall.. other no portal.. i get it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: that simplifies it thanks tipro
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: cool i'll take a look
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats the setting to be enabled to make it where the double semi colon enables the stacked command for mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh wow.. the mapper does this automatically.. awesome..
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should always be the case...it's game -> configure -> commands, enable stacking, and have the stack character be ;
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: ok, I posted the note
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the double-; is just a standard MUSHclient way to allow you to send a ;...you can either prepend a command with a ;, or you can double every ; within the command...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks!  it keeps on breaking my command up
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, you could do "gos I like to use a ;; in my gossips"...or you could ";gos I like to use a ; in my gossips"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, what exact command are you sending? (you can use "semi" instead of the char to make sure it gets to us) if you're using an alias to call an alias to call an alias, you'd need to increase the ;-nesting
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: would making an alias clientside cause that not to work?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias client-side would cause it to need an extra ;
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: like i took the mp02 * alias from the website and it is splitting it up
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, you'd type the alias, your alias will see ";;" and turn it into ";" and hand it off to the mapper command
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: and do the alias client side right?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: mapper portal get %1 ortal_bag;hold %1;enter;rem %1;hold portal_item;put %1 ortal_bag
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: mapper portal get %1 @portal_bag;hold %1;enter;rem %1;hold portal_item;put %1 @portal_bag
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thats my alias for mp02 **
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: or mp02*
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so I would type mp02 amulet or the id and it would fire it, but it isnt working!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you made an alias "mp02", where "mp02 amulet" will use the amulet, then what you want to put into mapper is "mapper portal mp02 amulet", no ;s necessary in the mapper command
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok getting close hgere
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks so much! i just needed to change the double semis
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how do i turn on id numbers for my equipment in my aardbag?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Install and use the inventory_serials plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: i think it is installed, it prompt me once but i never turned it on, know the help for it?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't, not off the top of my head
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can try reinstalling it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's inventory serials on
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: inventory serials help.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: should it give a number to everything in my bag or do I need to take it all out?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Have to pull them out.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: figured, once they are out will they maintain the number when put back in the bag?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: obviously I am going to try and set up an alias for my equipment sets
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The serial number is part of the object and never changes
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can also see that number with identify
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can invdata a container and it'll give you all the ids i think
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Alright I'm starting to remove my initial love of the bast plugin....it keeps getting errors that require me to close and reopen the window
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what's wrong with it?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: by window I mean the game
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i.e. what is it doing?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I got this "Trigger function "help_redirect" not found or had a previous error." after trying to access 2 helpfiles (it gave and error after me trying read the first one.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the help plugin has a known issue in it which can be avoided by avoiding certain help files
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/issues/15
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: So I should stay away from the class helps
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: likely
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or reload the plugin after reading them
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can a plugin reinstall itself?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: yea, it wouldn't even read the first one.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i.e. can I put a 'reinstall' button in my plugin so I don't have to pull up shift-ctrl-P every time?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Starling: yes but you have to do it with DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I was trying to look at the subclass helpfiles
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Kiss my Gritznakka.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Gritznakka: yeah, any help file that doesn't end with -----------------------------------------------------------
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So, I noticed that Lua resembles C in a lot of ways, and C programs that made zero sense to me before are now readable to me.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: So uhm anyone wanna explain the difference between soldier and blacksmith here?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar nods at Real ninja Starling.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's weird. I find that the more I program in Lua the less I understand C
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I just wish lua had normal switch cases..
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: blacksmith has hammering blow and hammerswing and hammerforge and tempering
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Gritz, do allspells soldier and allspells blacksmith, then help those individual files.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: soldier has flank and precision and battle training and dual wield with any weapons
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Maybe I should make "S&D C", has a nice ring to it ;)
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've never found a need for switch statements
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: theyre really only useful in specific circumstances
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well you just do if elseifs right?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the biggest thing I really miss when programming in Lua is a standard library
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pwar: right
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I wish Lua would change ~= to !=
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: All warrior subclasses have hammering blow
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think Matlab also uses ~
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I just like the ease and readability of switch(variable) case "1": case "2": probably just what I am used to from ansi c
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Gritznakka: more attacks with hammering blow when using a hammer
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Starling: Can just use if not this = that then :P
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: have to agree...that ~= kept throwing me off for a while, when I was trying to read plugins.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Rex Daemon Crowley.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea the ~= really threw me off in lua
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: if not a = b then this else that end
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I got way too comfortable with X and Y or Z expressions in Lua. In Python they become dangerous because 0 is false in Python but not in Lua
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: same thing as: if a ~= b then this else that end
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it would be nice if Lua had a proper ternary operator
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I use that all the time
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I wonder when ternary computers will become a thing
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably never
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I dunno, they can have better performance than binary
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I thought they were only better at processing certain types of equations though
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there was some noise about trigits back in the early 2000s I think, but then nothing happened with them
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok my question is this... why cant mushclient do more than one search when i hit ctrl+f?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I also am not the biggest fan of the array (table) implementation in lua
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kash: because you have to use Shift+Ctrl+F
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Kash, you can do find again "shift-ctrlF"
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mush's ctrl-F leaves much to be desired.  I wish it were more like the search feature in Notepad++
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Aww, he beat me to it
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think Lua tables are super elegant
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ugh it must be from prior languages I learned but it seems so awkward to me
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is the ternary operator used for?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: shorthand.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Starling: inline decisions
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: a ? b:c is if a is true, evalutate to b, otherwise c.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it lets you do things like ->   print("Hello my name is"..(a>5 and "Fiendish" or "Starling"))
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which you can't do in one line otherwise
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So why not Python as Aard's "official script language" ?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Python is hard to embed across platforms
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's really no great windows installer for it
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I see.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Python is also fat
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You get all of Lua in a 360Kb DLL
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: KB
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: tintin++ ftw
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: can use python all day
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can use python in MUSHclient too
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient works with anything supported by the windows scripting host
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you have to install python and then do the magic incantation to get it to register with the system
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: my mushclient didnt log the stuff i need *sniff
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: umless uo
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: you get a hacked version of python 
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: but highly doubtful
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: physics says we a bunch of wiggling strings
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc is
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are they philotic strings?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish is a bunch of wiggling reeds
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I pulled his wiggling string
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Your mom pulled his wiggling string.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: curious, does typing "cls" do anything on MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It doesn't, Abelinc.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sends a blank line, it looks like, so the command is entered, but the screen isn't cleared.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, I take that back - it doesn't on the AardMUSH package. I don't know about vanilla.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, only cared about that one
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why would cls do something?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you mean because of the utility command?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: cls clears my screen
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, MUDside help file says it's to clear the screen.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: think I should implement it?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: see help cls
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would you want to clear the screen?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I've never really used it on my end.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling nods at Rex Daemon Crowley.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I fail to see the benefit as well
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it should be pretty easy to implement
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: it is really helpful
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can be handy to separate things for readability, but I'd say not worth implementing probably
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient does already have its own clear command, of course
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do use it in terminals
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Twas brillig and the slithy toves. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shift+Ctrl+C
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: it's equivalent to flushing the toilet
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you SURE you want to clear all 9869 lines in the output window? <-- Love the capitalized SURE.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I had typed "commands", glancing through those and reminded myself of the command, so was curious if it'd impact the MUSHclient output
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, in terminals, it doesn't clear the scrollback, merely the current display
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Though I believe the terminal versions of cls just add a bunch of blank lines, still allowing you to scroll back up to the cleared content
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think it may have been more useful on strict telnet in the past. Not so much now, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: nobody really knows what cls stands for
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Precisely what it does.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, clear screen...
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: clear screen...
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I do recall using it now, when the terminal display glitched out, would reset it and make it display properly again
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: combat life saver
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but has been almost 20 years since I used such a terminal to mud
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: im talking about my friend. cls. she is a hipster with no vowels, nobody knows what she stands for, politically
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it probably has some uses and is worth implementing
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh now this is interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the mud response to cls might be wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: hm?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 4% - does that mean that there are 25 different tasks ?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is the safe trigger pattern we can use to prevent our characters from timing out? e.g., falling asleep/ then smile?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if roomnum and not (tonumber(roomnum) == home) then return to home end; if in home "unafk", spellup, "afk" end
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: execute something similar on match="Your eyes glaze over."
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: guys can you do me a favour? come to Entrance to The Arena of Doom and attack tier. i am testing out how a client i am building handles load.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does mushclient have two running processes?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: now I am losing the "I" key on my keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just gotta start referring to yourself in the third person.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But his name has an 'i' in it.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Time for a rename!
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Pleades approves of ths
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: we use the "royal we", subject mendaloth
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: im a noob... how do i project my stats on anychannel...
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Using a script
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: when i have an addon that i cant remember
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: we dont want you to do that
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: need some commands
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I kinda want it
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: everyone wants some wonder in their life
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I thought maybe mendaloth's, but it kinda sounds like the opposite of fake tracker channel
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: how can i see what addons i have
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: might make it easier
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: using mush
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Mendaloth's instinct/mastery works like: report instinct <chan>
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if it is Mendaloth's - then probably report stats <chan> or similar
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to see what addons you have press Ctrl+Shift+P
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: \\\Debug("summary")    will also include the plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: or if you have bast plugins the typing plugins works as well
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: I haven't used the mushclient for a while. Is there a way to split my main screen so I can keep part of the text from scrolling out of view?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glade Tech: you can resize the text window
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No split capabilities.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not at the moment
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can still scroll up, but it won't be split screen.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: ah well
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woubuc Tech: If I want to build my own MUD client, is it okay to just test it with Aardwolf, or will I get blocked if I open e.g. 20 new connections in rapid succession or something?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woubuc Tech: (I hope this is the right channel for my question)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can log into the test port with your test client. Post a note asking for access.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woubuc Tech: Where do I post that note?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: What exactly is a macro and how would i use it?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: whats the latest ms frame work_
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone use a projector as thier primary monitor?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: has anyone run mush or another medium to play aard, on a chromebook?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://www.howtogeek.com/173353/how-to-run-windows-software-on-a-chromebook/
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think if you're able to install Wine then you can run Mush on it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you need Intel Chromebook
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or install VM
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pub's Snooky points excitedly at A Nimwit Pleiades!
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I remote to a windows desktop all the time to play aard from my chromebook
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: aah
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: good to know
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if you go the linux or vm route on a chromebook watch out. I had ubuntu running on mine right up until my wife hit the spacebar on boot..
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it powerwashes the chromebook and resets it back to factory when you have dev mode activated(deactivates dev mode)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: oh wow
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah they REALLY don't like you being in dev mode
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Bet you got some action that night
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I lost a lot of data that day
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Bamboo you obviously have not met my wife..
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: that sucks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Hey a little respect to the wife
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Pleiades, teamviewer works well with chromebooks so remoting in is easy
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: But if you're getting a new computer, might as well aim for one that can run a mud on its own
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I agree with Bamboo here
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: VNC is better that temviewer , but teamviewer is more convenient, yet as it involves 3rd party (proxy) cannot be considered secure (unless you trust proxy)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: while I do like how slim the chrombooks are and lightweight... it is no laptop
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I do too but would prefer the wording "run a mud client" instead of "run a mud"
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do like the price... they seem dirt cheap
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you could get blowtorch up and running on it seeing as they now allow android apps on the chromebooks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Can't bo- err, run very useful scripts on that though
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades grins evilly at A Nimwit Bamboo.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over A Nimwit Bamboo's head.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: actually you can write scripts in lua for blowtorch now..
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you could also use tt++ instead of Mush
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so you could bo-- run very useful scripts
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: yeah but someone has to get the mapper part working even if it is just the back end part
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Get a gaming laptop, so we can also play something else!
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Wife simulator ftw!
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just get an Ultrabook
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Spend the $800 and be solid on all fronts
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Anchin, lol can you imagine the phone users using the mush mapper?!?!? we would all lose
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I have a Blowtorch mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And a tt++ one
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: wut
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I have one independent of client.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, my database is client independant.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: All the parsing/processing is client dependant
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: proxying it out?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Well here comes the bo- scripters
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Of sorts. It's just a Mongo Database
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I just use Tintin++ and wanted a mapper equivalent to MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Bamboo don't be mad that people like doing things you don't ;)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Oh don't mind me. That's just how I react when I'm in awe
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Mine doesn't use MongoDB, I admit :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Robbo what back end system does tintin use for the split pane windows? it reminds me of tmux
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nods, I used the tt++ mapper from ixle and I's aardwolf-tintin as a base, but I converted the data to Monog Documents, and have a scala script for fetching
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tmux
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Oh, I use TT with tmux.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tt++ doesn't split, that's tmux that does it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I threw away Cheez's code and wrote my own, because he's Cheez.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I really should just use tt
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In our script we have a "pmuxit" executable, that auto-splits and loads panes for you, but it in-itself, incapable of splits
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RowBoat Robbo winks at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You were just jealous you couldn't improve the already written code :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You wanted to do it poorly and silly-like :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RowBoat Robbo coughs loudly.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Cheezeburger those lenovo thinkpads have a known issue with windows 10 where they get stuck in a boot loop and you *cant* get out of it because it locks you out of the bios and boot order
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: A buddy of mine suffered from that, I tried all that I could to bring it back.. lol didn't work
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I wouldn't know :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I keep 1 PC windows for gaming, the rest get re-imaged instantly :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also, that just sounds like you needed to flip the BIOS EUFI flag
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: UEFI*
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you can't get to that
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I tried :(
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How strange
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I personally love my Asus Zenbook and would get another in a heartbeat if I needed it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: UEFI is evil on servers
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's an evil technology in general that MSFT shoehorned into the manufacturing process
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I have an asus transformer android tablet that is pretty cool
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now I wonder whether you can connect with Intel's Minix
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It literally prevents some machines from being able to be linux imaged at all. All it does it make it harder to leave windows
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: what's the URL for Aardwolf over Websockets?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do we believe that websockets is actually active?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what do these websockets do? just curious
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Jedhi: javascript client
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: not websockets in general :D the aardwolf ones
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I thought we did.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: last 10
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: oops :) wrong MUD for that
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Would anyone program on a projector? Is the technology there yet for daily use as a monitor?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess it would be bad for your neck and eyes
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a 1080p or 4k projector would be fine for programming
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I think it beats the purpose of the "personal" computer
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: there are 1080p projectors for under 100 dollars
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not ones worth owning
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but there are quite good ones for about $500
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i just use 1080p monitor
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: at work i have 3 :D at home only one
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to program using projector - the screen should be placed in such distance that you do not have to move your head to see all corners
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any projector under $100 that claims to be 1080p is going to be a scam
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then it should also be sharp and it should not be too dark (or rather too high contrast so not to strain eyes)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: nod fiendish. you cannot get a decent monitor for that
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i assume monitors are cheaper
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you need replace projector lamp every XX-XXX hours
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: if projector costs 100, then how much for a lamp?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some are 7$ and some 40$
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: https://www.amazon.com/ELEPHAS-Projector-Support-Portable-Entertainment/dp/B01M9C27FQ/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511189245&sr=1-19&keywords=1080p+projector
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: this is the addy for the projector under 100
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: the resolution of that projector is 800x480
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aka a scam
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 800 x 480P native resolution
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I guess interpolated full HD :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: has a lot of good reviews though
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I bet most of the reviews are fake
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so people must be satisfied with it heh
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I love the difference in native to supported resolution on it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i guess it depends on the application. if the requirement is to show 2 slides each it does not really matter
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: / each day
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Well good info all, thank you. I will revisit the idea in a few years when quality gets better and price drops
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Amazon is a garbage pile of scammy junk and fake reviews
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Tol: what is your budget? 
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmmm I dunno I have purchased a few nice things on there and I leave real reviews
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You can get a decent refurbished projector for about $300 I think
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you look in the right places
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: between 100-500 most likely
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: But trying to keep it cheap because I am the only one in a house of 4 bringing in an income
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're able to hit $500 you can get https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0FC-000R-00148&cm_re=ht1070-_-0FC-000R-00148-_-Product
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is a rock solid deal
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I like benq stuffI use their monitors
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that looks awsome, now to clear it with the finance department(wife)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the HT1070 is a great projector, especially for the price, and has a powered usb port so it will self-power a chromecast
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I would literally just be using it as a third monitor
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its dlp
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: must see if you see the dlp-rainbow is off-putting before buying
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: most projectors are dlp
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: dlp?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want a non-dlp projector you almost certainly have to go with epson
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the effect may be too obvious for some people. ruins the experience
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i see the rainbow in movies. luckily i can ignore that. some people cant
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Tol: https://hometheaterreview.com/rainbow-effect/
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: do you taste the rainbow in music?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it is a real real problem. first check this issue out
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: and see if you're ok with it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in my experience, almost everyone can see the rainbow effect if they're looking for it but almost nobody is actually bothered by it for more than a few seconds
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just like wires in trinitron's crts
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: especially not on projectors with faster or 2x color wheels 
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i can see it in movies. but i mostly play borderlands and driving games with it. there, i cant notice any. never seen a rainbow in those games
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if you want a projector that isn't DLP options become much more limited. I'm pretty sure only Epson makes them
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: haha, finally figured out why the plugins command kills my client
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's the answer?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: don't have basts Pluginsfunction enabled at the same time
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: apparently nick's and Bast's plugin stuff doesn't play well together
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which two plugins are the conflict?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you send me links?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: links?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wherever you downloaded them from
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its nick gammons plugin_summary and bastsPluginFunctions
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does plugin_summary do?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its written in vbscript and it just lists your plugins installed and thier summary(description)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pfft
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I had thought that it showed you current memory usage of each plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: use \\\Debug("summary")
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I wish I would have known about that earlier when I was looking for my memory leak, lol
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is that one of yours?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: part of mushclient
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what is the time in the touple (Lua, .209 s)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what does the time represent?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably total time spent running that plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: interesting I have one that is over 100 seconds
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which one
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: one of mine
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: guessing I made a boo boo
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: depends on what it does
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its on my github, its called wheresaver
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my repaint buffer plugin is over 100s, but that's because it gets called thousands of times
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in aggregate it actually saves a lot of time because of what it does
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aye, this one gets called every second I believe and on plugin broadcast
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: why would it be calling on pluginsavestate 11k times?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: when does that even get called?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: on save
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is calling that?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am not, its one of the standard functions you can put into your scripts like onPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes I know that
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I remember setting it up because of the example I was looking at for doing miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: search the mushclient forum to find the page that describes plugin callbacks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it will say when it gets called
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nothing like 11504 calls.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: well that read was super not helpful, lol
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have thousands of calls to OnPluginSaveState somethin's funny
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, I agree there
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you should have single digits
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: see if something is manually saving
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nothing in this file is calling it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: look in all scripts for Save()
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: 0
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: optionally with an argument
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess just Save
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe you're using http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8729
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there you go
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah, didn't know it saved plugin states also
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because all it's doing is calling Save()
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but what I don't understand is I have another window I made that only has 306 while that one has over 11k
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume you didn't have them installed for the same amount of time
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: They both have been installed for over 2 years
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the one with more was installed for less time
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe you reloaded one?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: could be, let me reload the one and check if it clears it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: did clear it but in the time it took me to get out of the plugin screen and type your summary option it made 153 calls to it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's nuts. you can...
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so, you have to be careful with this... but you can activate Game->Trace. be warned you'll get spammed with messages from the repaint buffer
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have that put to its own window so I don't get bombarded
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so when I trace I never see any OnPluginSaveState calls
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: obviously because I'm not saving
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you have to find what is calling Save so much
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: need to sanitize out the plugin ticks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's also SaveState()
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is just for the plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am trying to sanitize out all of the crap so I can find the one calling it, lol
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I see it getting saved but not what is calling it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well you can find out by selectively disabling plugins until it stops
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: might save_state='y' in the plugin declaration have something to do with it?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: shouldn't, no
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That just allows the plugin to save state
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm I keep seeing an unlabelled timer firing less than a second apart also
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so that didn't help at all on who is calling the plugin saved state..
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: how do you tell what timers are running currently? Across plugins and whatnot, I have one I want to find but its not labled
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so is there a command that shows the memory usage of all the plugins?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not built in
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: darn
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: bast's plugin plugin can do that
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: which one?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ahha
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so the plugins function is back to locking me up
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it is the bast one that is locking for some reason
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is it wierd if mapper isnt plaotting corses from aard hotel for like melody?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if you have the cexit set up then yes
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone know what other plugins must be installed to use bast's pluginlist.xml?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: and the portal put in
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: oh like make a cexit to the entrance of the area?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: some areas it runs to just from mapping the room of the normal ardwold runto command
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: that will work for areas that don't have cexit entrances
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mapper automatically detects normal directional exits but requires you to manually register all cexits
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: how do I exit full screen mode in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: full screen mode?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: under the view menu there is an option for full screen, I'm used to hitting exit to escape the mode, but I can't get it to go back.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+Alt+F
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: morn
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so right now melody has an exit south that goes directly to center.  how do i make a cexit for that in that room
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Weird. Fullscreen mode is slightly off screen for me.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Looks to be a few pixels to the left off my screen.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: there is a thread on mushclient that talks about it being slightly off
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not off for me
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: I think it was with Vista
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Eh, this is Windows 10.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: where are the aliases, triggers, etc. stored to copy over to a new build of aardwolf?  Sorry, been looking for a while and can't find it.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: is it the aardwolf data base file?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: was trying to find an old faq on it, but was having trouble locating it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Visible: my website
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're trying to copy things over from anywhere to anywhere then IMO you're doing it wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the installer updates what it needs to, no manual copying of anything over to anywhere
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: I hear you, I was just having trouble with my previous version witn the miniwindows and wanted a fresh start.  But I'd like to be able to bring over my triggers/aliases/timers and maps
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: how do you put stuff in the mush status bar
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: there's stuff there I can't find out where it's coming from
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Infobar()
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: have you looked at view?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's not what he's referring to.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: He wants to know how to put stuff into the info bar.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: no there's stuff there
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: it says Mapper: 
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: then some random speedwalk that's not even a speedwalk
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: and it shows briefly every time I move
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's actually Info() that puts stuff into the info bar, heh.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You may have a plugin that's putting that information in for you.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: that's what I'm trying to find, isn't it :p
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Then search for Info( :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you have a program that can search through all files in a given directory, that'll help out immensely.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: anyone know how to make a cexit in mapper for a zone that doesnt have a directional area i can stop at.  IM trying to get it for melody
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: directional area?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: LImunious just do mapper cexit melody
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: it shows cexit failed, leads back to the same room
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: oh from aard center
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: whatever you have to do to exit that room, you put in cexit ,mapper cexit, climb ladder, ...cexit hit old woman;;climb out window, whatever
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yea like when u leave melody south it takes u right back to aylor center
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: have to do mapper cexit runto melody from the center aylor  got it thanmks!!
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: updated mush, it's gone now
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: -22
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: On Bast's Spellup Plugin... I have spells at 85% which the plugin are viewing as "not learned". Any ideas on how to instruct the plugin to view these as learned? I've tried removing all the spells and readding them, but no luck.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone else have more than one process running for mushclient under wine? As in when you only have one intentially open?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not wine, sorry windows
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: only 3 processes for 3 copies running
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone good with mapper cexits command?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you'd better served just doing the question :)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: I am setting up random mapper cexit runto's and a few worked but the last time I tried with Annwn it keep running me there everytime I try and use mapper from reclal :P
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: in the mapper hover the mouse on the recall room... it should show you all the exits (cexits included)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Degarn Tech: a u here?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unbalanced Teklor Tech: how do you make the mapper pause for more then 2 seconds for extended cexits?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: mapper help exits -> mapper cexit_wait <seconds> 
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unbalanced Teklor Tech: tyvm
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: When using mapper, if I use open e
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: double your semicolon please
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: When using mapper, if I use open e"
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: When using mapper, if I use open ee it keeps dropping the second command, what should I be using for commands thet require more than 1 input?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: with a semi colon
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: it breaks it up there lol, just not in mapper function
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what did I just say?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I dont know
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: When using mapper, if I use open e;e it keeps dropping the second command, what should I be using for commands thet require more than 1 input?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: :)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I didn't hear anything
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: boom solved
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you need to use two ; in between commands
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: lmao, use that in my mapper fuction? :P
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: naturally
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: thanks guys!!
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: or start with semicolon then your mapper cexit blah blah blah
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: starting with a semicolon always feels weird to me
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: since your giving advice, next question :) How do I fix the paths that are broken, for example I can't use mapper to run to fantasy field... I tried cexit from recall but sometimes they fail and start going to that location from ever click on S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: I will try and go to senn lake and it grabs my cexit and runto to Fantasy field instead...
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait wait
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're trying to make a cexit from recall?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: someone told me I could do that to fix area's that you cant use S&D to get too
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: and the messed up part is it worked for call of heroes lol
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's adorable
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's weird, and I'm pretty sure it's bad advice, but I think I like it
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: like when I click on escent I cant run there..
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how can I fix that path?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type speedwalk ascent
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: See that cexit in there, add it to hte mapper in the room it's in.
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the way to fix any path is to find the exits that are wrong and make them not wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: all you have to do is map the custom exits along the way. do speedwalk awnn (to see if there are any and where)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and for the record, you should probably not do any cexits from recall. that's unlikely to really solve any existing problem without making a new problem
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yeah, agreed thanks.
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: we can even demonstrate this algorithmically. there's no room that you can get to from recall that you can't get to from 1 room away from recall.
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: was frustrating the hell outta me last night, ill have to slap my buddy around
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and there's no room that you can't get to from from 1 room away from recall that you can't get to from 2 rooms away from recall
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: so for an area requiring a key, can I set up a cexit to goto the room with mob, kill it and move back to the door and open it? Would i need to use wait command etc?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ugh, first can't should be can, but you get it
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you "can", but my personal opinion is that people shouldn't
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: that's legal?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: was thinking for chap lab, have it goto Pan, kill him, go to other room and open door and then pass through lol
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: help botting dictates that you can't kill mobs automatically
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nothing that involves killing mob and moving in an alias/trigger is legal
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: you can add a roomnote to remind you which mob to kill
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I have a roomnote for where to runto so that I can copy paste it back from the note
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: seems to work pretty well
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can automate it even more: move to room with mob, echo "kill it", **manually initiate kill** and after looting key continue move
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or get passdoor wish
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yeah passdoor would be awesome, passdoor works on locked doors?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some door are no-pass
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: depends on the door
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: so I dont fully understand why melody doesnt work.. there are no doors or anything and my CP mob was the first mob in the room
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or get a passdoor belt
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you could also implement simple state machine working with 1-button click, like 1st click it takes you to mob, 2nd click kills mobs, 3rd click moves you back to door
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unbalanced Teklor Tech: what is a passdoor belt?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it sound like?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: where would we get one of those?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unbalanced Teklor Tech: ok then where do i get one?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you probably don't
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cap'n Gus Grimvald rolls his eyes.
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: so would it be illegal to set up a cexit for rattler which is in texas of land of legends? Buy ticket, goto right conductor, and into texas area? Is that possible?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is legal
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does not involves killing mob
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: possible for someone of my limited experience and talent? :P
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is illegal to *stack* in *any* way *move* and *kill*
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just increase cexit time construction
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: and would it be one continuous cexit command and not broken up into steps?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: well, seperated by semi-colons, but yeah one cexit
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then move to room with tickets and do something like : buy viti;w;n;board;e;open e;e;open e;e;give virgi cond
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: repeat that for all locations
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: read "mapper help exits" for details (you need mapper cexit_wait in this case)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnifico Tech: is there a way to open doors automatically when using Search & Destroy?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: define cexits
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: S&D is merely an extension to mapper when it comes getting to destination
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also remember to define portals (if you want to move fast between areas)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: omg this is savage :P
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: thanks for your help guys!
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: so i loaded the client onto a flash drive and it ran ok on that computer but i took it home and it doesnt run... the icon does not even shoW but all the other stuff does... suggestions?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have a shortcut/alias that you're trying to use to run it?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: um idk... hoW do i find out?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client should be an entire folder named MUSHclient...you should have to open that folder, to get to folders fonts, licenses, etc...and in that folder is a program MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you double-click on MUSHclient.exe, it should run normally
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: yes i see those
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: is says error accoured While loading this archive
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like you have it still in a .zip file
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: dang do unzip?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you double-click a zip file, Windows will open up the contents, but it doesn't really unzip it yet...you've got to either copy/paste stuff from teh opened window, or else right-click the zip file and select Extract all
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: ok dang 
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: What do i need to do to unzip What file?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: most of the files have the WINDOWS symbol on it..
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: thnx btW
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: silly thing did not Work :( maybe i need to do it on a nother Computer. Would it matter that most things are forbidden for me?>
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Has anyone designed a grep like command for aard?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hrm i seem to remember yesterday i had cexit for a room would show in a small mini window.  is there a way to activate that?  its like gone now
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: assuming you are using MUSHclient, do you remember which area?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: it was ay time i was in any room i had made a cexit, the cexit would show in a small mini window
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: like ina  small mini window with orange text it would show open w w 
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: did the small window have anything else and is the window gone entirely?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: its entirely gone and it only had cexits in it
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you maybe make room notes for your cexits?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: no notes they would be just the nromal cexits that were in the room i was in
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't know of that being a toggleable option in the mapper, and I don't know of a third party plugin that does it
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok, very wierd
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: this command will display all the mapper options: mapper help all
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper shownotes is close, though, so that's why I wondered if maybe you made notes as you made cexits
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: is there a command that runs to your quest mob with s&d?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: go, i think
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: ok thanks, ill try that next one
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: i doWnloaded the client on to a flash drive. (zip) might of done it on the computer regular... i tested it it 
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: it Worked but When i got here it failed.. What could be the reason?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: there could be dozens of reasons.Too little info.
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: can i save and run the unzipped client on my flashdrive and run it on another computer or do i need tod othe zipped file?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: unzipped is fine
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: um how do i lock my screen for the client?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swamptrash: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: wow thanks 
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for the flash drive, the file you double-click on must be totally unzipped. So the "parent" folder at the root of the zip drive cannot have a zipper icon on it. I suggest copying the folder named just "MUSHclient", not the one named aardwolfclientpackage-MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't see why you can't use the installer to install to a flash drive though
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: i ended up doing that.. thanks!! so far as long as i can tell it is working
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: i am using it now.. just hot at the halfwayhouse
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, glad you're all sorted
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: so i am i this is soooo much better then the alt flash portal 
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Swamptrash, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's really there as an "in case of emergency" thing if you have no other options
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: had no other options... i was surprised i was able to get on on the alt flash site. 
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: How do I get bast's plugin to recognize that I know my clanskill (intervention)
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume you mean a particular plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it might be good to tell us the name
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: The bast spellup plugin, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bsp help has info about the toggleclan option
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Thank you sit.
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Erm, sir. :P
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyran Tech: my s&d plugin window is off the screen and i can't move it back, any help?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyran Tech: thanks for the help dude
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: when a room is ID: nomap or ID: noid, that's area designer shutting off room number or an error?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the first one
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is aardwolf db the main mapper file if you redo your mush?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: aardwolf.db is your mapper file
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: can copy your old one over if you installed a fresh copy
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: is there like a wait function in lua?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nm i found it
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nah i lied i didnt find it
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in Lua no. In MUSHclient yes.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill just use doafterspecial
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh, is there some other more simpler "wait/sleep" type function?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Depends on what you're waiting to occur
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i want lua to wait a second or two before continuing executing the code after the sleep
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: to make sure that a variable gets filled from the triggers after executing the alias before it continues?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but that won't be reliable
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nm ill just do it differently
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: the back plastic cover of my laptop is cracked, does anyone know if shops repair/replace that cover?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: the cover where the screen is 
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you might be able to find one online... not sure where though
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: if all else fails you can look for a bricked or broken laptop of the same model
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a wat to clear out just one cexit in a room if there are multple?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right click and delete cexit
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok so i do cexits here, then of the 4 here i just click on the one i want, right click, and there is nothing there that says delete cexit
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right click on room on map, then delete exit, and pick cexit to delete
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: right click on the map window
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: on the map window.  right click the room you want to remove the cexit from
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: absolutely awesome
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ahh i see why there was a problem, im doing a mapper exit runto azone from aylor, but its not getting through the whole run
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Any idea why there is a gray overlay/background in my main window + map window? I can't seem to find a setting to fix it, the only way is to open a new world file, which I kinda don't want. Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/dyiai
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how the client is supposed to be
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUSHclient window has that background, and then all other miniwindows and the main output are simply boxes placed on it wherever you want
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Huh? No it's not like that on my other comp. Then the main window/map window has a black background. I don't mean the mushclient bg, btw, I mean those two windows.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the main output window's gray is actually the wolf howling image background
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can choose to not have that...instructions are in the client FAQ: http://abelinc.me/aardclientfaq
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: I get that Mush has a gray bg, but usually that's all covered up. 
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ah, instructions! I'll see. Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably removed the background file on your other PC...although the best way to use MUSH on a new computer is to copy the entire folder between the two (some people play from a Dropbox folder, or from USB drives)...that way all settings would be the same between the two
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another possibility is simply that the other computer's screen has different contrast than this one, and you just notice it more on this one...I know on some LCDs, you've gotta look at them at a funky angle to notice the wolf picture
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Hmm.... thing is, I usually use a mac (so I run Mush via Wine there), while this laptop has Windows. I've not quite figured out if having a Dropbox folder will work, so for now I have two different installs. Annoying, because mapper settings and aliases etc are way better on the other comp.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ok, now the wolf image disappared, but some miniwindows are still grey. Weird.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dropbox should work fine as long as you close MUSHclient on one computer a few minutes before opening it on the other computer, even with one Mac and one Windows
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ok, I will try to get it set up then. I just need to actually do it, not put it off in favour of actually playing, lol.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one other thing to try: go to game -> configure -> ANSI Colour...the value for "Normal Black" is what the windows that are showing as grey should be using
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc!!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the code for the ASCII mapper says to use that...but the code for the statmon says to use "0x000000" black instead of your "normal" black
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Abelinc!! You are amazing! You fixed it!!! Somehow one of the blacks had been set to dim grey or some such. I changed that, and now it works.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: he is amazing!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: do you have your own Abelinc T-shirt yet?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Haha, not yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was one.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I am wearing one right now
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Lies, we know you're not wearing any clothes.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: But that's not a topic for this channel.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: well
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: then explain to me how we can talk about barebone servers!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: is there also a client setting for the grey colour? It seems to be black on this client, on my other comp it works fine.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ok, fixed it. Tick the "use custom 16 colours as default" under colours, apparently.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: if anyone is interested in buying a super widescreen phone like the galaxy s8/s8+ I'd advise against it.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I was convinced at galaxy
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: too late :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: damn!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I hope you are not shilling for apple
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I have the s8+ why should i get rid of it?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: it's so annoying how YouTube videos have black bars so the 6.1 inch screen is like a 5.2
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: excellent question
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: don't get rid of it.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: so you are saying we should use the s8/s8+ because of youtube?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: well, why should i not have gotten it in the first place?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I actually got an LG G2, most durable phone I've had so far
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: It's starting to get a bit old though
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: it's just disappointing going from a 6 inch to a bigger screen but it feeling like a phone with a smaller screen
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I am failing to understand your point, NOegel.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: what is the technical problem with the s8/s8+
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Me either, and I love watching videos on my phone. I don't think I've seen bars...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Probably watching SD videos on an HD phone
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: the point being ultra widescreen isn't a selling point at this time. It probably will be in a year when it's supported more
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that is not the only reason to buy the s8+
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I tell you the only reason I wouldn't buy the s8+, it's heavier than the s7 edge
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: of course not hehe I'm just irritated that I haven't found something that really supports it
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I had an S2 and its was  really good, as long as I didn't use the mic
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: which somewhat reduces it's uses
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I love chunky phones. I put otter boxes on them to make them hefty
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the s7 edge was like a feather. The only reason I got rid of it is becuase the charging port went bad and it was my fault.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I'll shut up now.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I can tell you that I was a samsung lover til the s6, hated that phone for a long list of reasons, ended up with an Iphone 6s+, didn't love it but hated it far less than the s6, now that I got the s8 I'm thinking I will probably go back to iphone
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: good luck with an inferior product :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I hate how apple lacks in personalization and customization, but platform is way WAY more stable, apps operate far more smoothly
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: the new iPhone 8 is superior in a huge way
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: but it's an iPhone soooo
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the the only thing that the ihpone has over the samsung is that people like to own 'apple' products.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: the new iPhone has an insane processor
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it is apple who is trying to catch up now
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: makes the galaxy s look midrange
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: but really not going to notice a difference now until apps support it...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yeah, insane processors is what I need since that is why I buy phones, to comute second order partial differential equations in a reasonable time.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: OK with that logic a Motorola razr from 2006 is sufficient
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it's just that you are buying a phone not a platform to work out lunar landings.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: it's a good thing because it'll increase competition and make new androids better
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I guess. I hardly use the phone as a phone.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the new androids are better, it is apple who is stuggling to keep up, so far the 'apple' brand is helping them out but soon they are going to have to prove that they have the better product.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: my rear exhaust fan makes a weird noise, it's like howling every 2-3 secs
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: in other words a larger percentage of iphone 8 buyers bought it because it was an apple not because it was better.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I jump back and forth between platforms. Apple was worse slightly this time around. They're definitely not struggling though
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: how many android buyers like you buy android because it's simply not Apple?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: they are struggling, not struggling is what the iphone 1 did agasint samsung
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i dont buy apple because its a new thing
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I don't buy apple because they suck :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: iPhone isn't struggling. It's one brand. And they're doing marvelous considering Android is many many brands
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: Apple is great for people who want a great phone with zero hassle.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yes, Noegel, but for a long time it was a given that people would buy iphones, now iphone actually has to put out a good product, something they are not used to doing. that's struggling :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: not for people like you and I who like messing with all the settings with a fresh install of windows
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: main issue I have with apple is the itunes app
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Iphone 10 is awesome as far as I can tell, I'll probably be headed there next
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: screw iTunes!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I agree itunes sucks
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: itune pisses me off :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: but I don't use my phone as music device, so I haven't had to get involved too much with itunes
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: iPhone X is sick... But it's $1,000
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I don't know who installed it on my laptop because I didn't :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: like any other phone though, you can pay monthly for it
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: it's so expensive for a phone. I have an iphone 5c, next one is going to be the iphone cheapo, or xiaomi
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the s8 note is 1K also
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: no phone should cost that much
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arystul boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: my pc cost 1k...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: note 8 is 800
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: While I agree the mark up is ridiuclous, you're literally holding the technology that used to not even be available in a computer..
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: im not paying 1k for a phone just to have something to do while taking a dump
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I think you should get yourself a motorola razr, and you'll quickly realize how much you take your phone for granted
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, soon they will stop calling them phones and call them by the right name. calling them 'phones' make the illiterate a potential buyer. If you called them 'personal communication and processing' units, peoplw would start thinking they were buying pocket computers, not as cool as phones.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I am willing to bet that 'phone' usage is not the top priority usage of the unit.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: already said that dude
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: what do you do with the personal communication and processing unit? I need emails mostly, and accessing personal accounts. can't do that at work
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: agreee that if you play games on the phone isa bit different
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: phone is easier to say. You don't call your car an automobile daily do you?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, if you use it wisely it will allow you to take control of your time :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fapjacked Dashiell Tech: I personally call it my Personal Motorized Carriage.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel smacks Anaristos in the immortal nuts.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fapjacked Dashiell Tech: PMC for short.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: my phone is 5y old and still sufficient for me, i just need to root it now so I can get a newer version of andriod due to apps stopping to support 4.4.2 :P
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: if you fiddle with your phone all day because you are a "connected person", instagram, facebook etc, I guess 1k is good value
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I don't really play games on my phone, but I do use it ALL The time, the apps that are out there are pretty incredible..
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I start my truck from my phone lol
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: phones today are the precusors of the global net that we will join when we have the chips installed :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: oh, don't forget the 500 dollars to pair it with the iwatch
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: who the hell wears a watch? 
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: soon therre will be the iEat, to figure out what you eat so that iHealth is fully updated
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: old ass men
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: ask someone who wears a watch what time it is, and you'll see them pull out their phone to check the time
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: the millennials big in fitness
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Oh, to count steps... right
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: it tracks even how frequently you burp
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: my phone does that without having a watch
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: so old ass men and millennial make fun of each other for watches
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel is so confused.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: noooooo, it recognises squats, push ups etc...you get live calories burnt
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: and one day millennials will complain about their kids haha
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: oh you need to pair it with an iScale too, otherwise you need to type your weight manually
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ullin rolls his eyes in disgust at Teagan's shade.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: anyway...I think my next phone is a xiaomi 4x or at most iphone SE
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: because I am a real man, and real men don't carry bags
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: to hold their phones
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ullin laughs diabolically...Muhahahaha!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the only problems I foresee with the devices is the ability of the government to keep track of individuals thorugh 'private' companies.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I guess I use my phone for work and a bunch of stuff... Games, work, everything.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I guess I'm in the minority here!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: let's say apple sells all ihealth data to insuarance companies...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: before you jump me ask yourselves why does the McDonald app need to have access to your phone, your contacts and your sd card.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: or let's say .. they just buy an insurance company
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: because a lot of super basic app needs require that access to do freaking anything on Android.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I guess I should be happy to not live in the US then :p
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: or why all apps ask you facebook access? So they suck you all your network info etc
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: it was an android security feature made back in the day
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: then Apple incorporated it to look secure too
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: or why if you browse for say a new PC, facebook app showers you with PC add?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: throw them AWAY!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: right so now I use the app to order a hamberger from McD, meanwhile McD is processing my contacts list for what? my phone history for what? my sd card for what?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: making basically any app require access to your whole phone, making them insecure. Rofl
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: if most apps require access... Most people will accept. Making those security features useless
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, when the app asked my for all those permissions, I hit the delete button :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel cheers for Anaristos!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: after I install my apps I turn all their permissions off and force them to ask for the permissions each time I need to use the app, if I don't like what they ask for I uninstall them.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: and that's good!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: but nobody else does that. So the permissions war goes unfought
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that is why the device is still called a phone, to keep the unsuspecting from noticing they are giving their life away for the sake of a free app.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I despise the free app/game direction the world is going.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: free to play has never been so expensive when it comes to games atleast
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I download free apps, I don't think I give my life away...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: free apps make money somehow. Via ads or sold personal information.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I agree, ads are annoying, but thats not me giving anything away
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I suspect that selling personal info is the bigger revenue.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: way bigger
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: and androids security permissions "feature" introduced it. Not a diss against the OS. It was coming eventually but nobody saw this consequence coming
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: damn marketers
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it is obvious if you just stop and read what they ask of you. As I said why does McDonald need a list of my contacts.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: if they gave me a discount I might consider letting them take a peek :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: but not for free
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: oh hell yeah! That'd be sweeet
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: well it's time for Thanksgiving. I was just ranting at the lack of support for super duper widescreen which I shouldn't be complaining as an early adopter of a tech on a platform
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I'm a big baby. Nothing new!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: phone still kicks ass
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the one problem I really have is that the OS is givng the permissions regardless of what I say. I've never trusted Microsoft and I don't see why I have to trust android or apple :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel agrees with Anaristos.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: now that is a topic for another day. I can't believe it has come to that. We won't have a choice one day.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I disconnect from the internet when I am doing sensitive work but I still get the feeling that the operating system has access to the net without using an isp (or rather, the isp is microsoft or android)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: you can either have internet, or not.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: too late for the not part
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: physically remove the ethernet. Unless you use solely wifi...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: that might be getting a little too paranoid, though with the latest minix revelations in mind not entirely outside of the realm of possibility
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: is there a way to view the map in gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not currently.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: be more specific please
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you mean the ascii map?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What is it you're trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You just want to get the automap without having to parse it out of the main output, is that it?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume this means that you're not using MUSHclient or any other client that already has an ascii map capture script?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: cmud
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm sure someone has already written a cmud script for the overhead map
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I had one for zmud
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does my old zmud script work in cmud? 
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think so.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: pretty sure it can
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/zMUD%20Scripts/
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: enjoy
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: thks
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some of them are bound to be broken because I don't keep them updated
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but that one should still work
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: thanks again, had to change a could things but got it to work
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm i'm exploring living mind it doesn't seem to be mapping the area.
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: err mine
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: the first few rooms are nomap
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If anyone misses the SQLite extension in Firefox and don't want to downgrade to the long term release, I found this which seems pretty decent: http://sqlitebrowser.org/
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Does anyone know where Bast's stats DB is stored? It seems to be gone after I upgraded/moved Mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is in your logs folder
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: logs folder and the back_ups are in db_backups folder in the logs folder.
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Yay, Turie. Got the stats back. Thanks so much! 
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: welp, keepvid apparently sucks now
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: anybody have an alternative suggestion for how to download youtube videos?
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I use youtube dl. itworks flawlessly. you can even download playlists and such.
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber nods at Byrnatha.
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: should I get a new laptop, or should I just get a smallish desktop type PC?
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I like the portability but in practice I generally don't go anywhere
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: No need to go anywhere. To paraphrase Mastercard commercials: Muding on the throne - priceless. :)
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: any ideas how to use ram efficently on a phone
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i cleaned it and it had 52 Mbs used
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: what encoding am i supposed to use. mines slowing everything dow 
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: when matching a regex how do I get access to what a group captures?
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: waaaahhhh sqlite manager firefox extension doesn't work anymore with the latest update... any free replacements, even standalone?
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: not professional, just using it to browse aardDB
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: someone mentioned sqlitebrowser.org, I know nothing of it, just was mentioned on tech
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: thnks will check out
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: is there a way to change the color of unexplored rooms that show up on the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pub's Snooky Tech: seems to be a glitch with the market on 82236
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi all. is there a way that i can make a trigger on blowtorch to say how long it took before the next pup/ level please? 
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: html5 audio gets out of sync gradually, it triggers me a lot
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: has anybody had issues with that lately
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: browser doesnt matter, drivers I installed the windows ones
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: it also seems to be the realtek card, it's not happening on my dac/amp
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: does anyone on this channel know how VI readers operate?
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: any VI players on
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is there a way to turn "echo channels in main window" off without having to right-click in the comm window
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I don't know if chats echo off still works or not.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: thanks again :)
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello all
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any idea how to restore or check why my minimap window is gone?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it would be nice to get from mapper something like path length to different areas
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you would just type "mapper what_trivia_portal_buy_next" and it shows me area
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even better if it was able to decide that getting X portal will shorten paths to 1,2,3,4 areas 
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: all the code is basically there either in mapper or mapper extender, it's just a matter of putting it together
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: this would be an excellent addition
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have you bought all SH areas?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean if it was implemented in mapper several years ago then I could buy trivia portals with more reasonably way :P
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: mapper optimal 12345 19852 18412 32921 -> The optimal room between those four rooms is: 23421.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Going to share that code Crowley?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Can't share what isn't written. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: by optimal room, do you mean the closest to the current position?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The center point to all parameters.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: to bad that a code like that would need to recalibrate optimal everytime a new area with area exits is added
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when I was buying some trivia portals I tried to get such portal that was usable for more than 1 area
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Meaning that the path length to each of the parameters is within 1-2 rooms of each other.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's doable, though.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically gettin "mapper where <start room>" for all areas, then expanding run 2e3s to run eesss and sorting expanded string from longest to shortest allows to select longest paths
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that is not optimal
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: better would be to assume a portal to area X exists, then calculate sum of all mapper where's
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: then repeat for all X, the one that minimizes the sum is your next area portal
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: this would take like a minute though :p
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually that calculation needs to be only once
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't buy trivia portals to optimal rooms, though, only to start-of-area rooms...
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hello, Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: yeah, I didn't assume a portal to each room, just to each area start room
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, I mean get optimal trivia portal - by optimal I mean getting trivia portal to SKD (if it was possible) is pointless
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heloo, ball
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean for crowley's example, not yours
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Figure the optimal room, then wheedle your way into building a new area, and just _happen_ to place the entrance...
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: getting trivia portal that will be used by speedwalks to 3-4 areas could be considered optimal
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Not an Imm Erikson.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yours is really the way that it must be done...create temp_mapper_portal to each area in turn, and see what that did to other areawalks
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And it takes like 30 minutes, not 1 :P
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice erikson!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one could code purgatory area with entrance just above hell administration, that is quite logical those 2 areas are connected, and hell administration would be just 1d from trivia portal leading to purgatory
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it really doesn't take more than 1 minute, though...can even just use the state file from S&D's mapper extender to do it
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean like a triv portal to wyrm?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, wyrm is SH area, so cannot use trivia portal
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also there is already speedwalk through one of clans leading to Wyrm
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth looks at Trachx ponderingly.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Only ones on help trivia portals are disallowed...hence me asking if you had all SH areas already :P
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why did you think you can't get triv portals to SH areas?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I was wrong, most of SH areas with epics are not allowed to have trivia portal, not just SH zones
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, now that vanir's open, that clanwalk is nice
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Unless I misunderstand Trach.  You CAN Have portals ALL areas, EXCEPT those specifically listen in help trivia portals.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that's right
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I have a portal to just about every SH area.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I want to have trivia portal to area "Purgatory" which will have its entrance "up" in room administration in hell
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: because speedwalk to reactor is sooooo long
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now we just need area creator to create that "Purgatory" area
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: I have a cp there, feels good
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I seem to recall having one to HOmer, but I forget...regardless it is useless to me!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, as you all are sitting T9s whad do you know about cp targets in hell :P
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alts!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: we've been non-t9s too :(
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta start playing mine again, been since April
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so hell and sendhia - those areas require some goal that will give transports in area
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: I think we should keep some annoyance here and there
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and soon Santa is coming, so better start playing alts now
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alts have plenty of hours, don't need to play them for santa...
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those annoyances makes Psi Nav desired subclass (for bypass and homecoming)
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: that a bad thing ?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: I think psi is pretty good
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: does it feel like santa gifts pale compared to daily
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: depends on what you guess, I think
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what I meant - although Santa will reward players with X hours online, if you do not play your alt you should not just start logging to farm gifts (IIRC there was note about that)
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: seems hard to plice
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: are you sure that's a thing
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and Santa has some great gifts, like QP cards or double cards
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: the double cards are really the only reason I try to get one every day
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: you get double from daily too
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: ok it sent me a bunch of jargonese i dont get but here it is: Pinging aardmud.org [23.111.136.202] with 32 bytes of data:
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 70ms Avg: 166ms Max: 387ms}
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What does it say your min/max/avg is?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: seems quite normal for eU based player
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley is not EU-based.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess Asia will have similar times
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: my ping is ~200 ms. It went to the shitter after the server change
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have average 142, so Crowley is actually from South Africa
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 387 is pretty slow, that 142 is from Eastern Europe
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: it says packets: 'sent = 4, received = 4, lost =0(0% loss), approximate round rip time is in milli-seconds: minimum 111ms, maximum 218ms, average 153ms'
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glade Tech: 69 Average, west coast usa
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You're not even close to where I live.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: US based should be <100
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not necessarily.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: let usnot forget im in alaska... and i dont know nothin anymore
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: i used to be more tech savy, now i'm kind of blind to what all thses things are. i gotta go back to school for this stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley lives next door to the server.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with overprovisioned network you can get really bad pings
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: so this means my connection is slow?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Blame it on Net Neutrality. *nod*
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so like your ISP has 1 Gig fiber , and he sold to 30 of his customers also 500 mega per :P
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so when one of them starts speedtest it looks nice, but when all start using bandwidth it is getting slow
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: ah, this must be because its Sunday and there are a lot of people online up here.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe your connection (your PC - port switch) is fast, but next connection is slow
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: ok. at least i know its not me. thanks for the info.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well if you see that during some time of day (or night) network work fast - then probably ISP has too low bandwidth 
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: traceroute may help to find bottleneck
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: mmm, ok. that explains it,
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when you see that after several hops average time increases then you have found bottleneck
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes you can use other route to get better/faster network connection
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actualy you (as user) are limited to using some VPN provider
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: okiedokie
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe your ISP has really fast connection to VPN provider and that VPN provider maybe have fast connection to aard
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example if I connect through netherlands then I have average 137 ms, through Poland 142 ms (5 ms is nothing in this case)
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: via Ireland 200, and SK 500, that is quite a difference, but it seems my connection to SK is slow
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any idea how i screwed up my mini map?  i dont have the window anymore
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you can reset aard windows
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you disable or remove any plugins recently?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it went black? You moved it behind another window? Disabled the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yea but not the mini window
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What DID you disable or remove?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: try "resetaard"
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: its just completely gone off my screen, i have to type map to see where i am
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: 10/4  also what is the name of the plugin for the mini window
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: each is different/ there is a map plugin, right?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Aardwolf_Ascii_Mapper, I think.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: something like that yes
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yea i did reset aard and the map is gone, just the mapper map
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: its not the mapper map but the game map
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: help automap ?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hrm yea its the window the automap normally populates in, its like its removed completely.  now to find the ame of it and see if something happened to it
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ok, that is a function of MUSHclient, right? DId you try "resetaard" ?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i did it didnt produce it
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: its like normally a littlw window with like a 6 room view or something.  it captures the map from the game and puts it in a window
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aardwolf_ascii_mapper is the name of that plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: it was removed from active list
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks i have it again
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: awesome!!!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: 2 quick questions, does basts stat tracker keep a variable for total stats gained through battle learning, and if so, how can I see the value?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: can you define battle learning?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Sorry, battle training, the soldier subclass skill.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think there are examples on https://web.archive.org/web/20151219113026/https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Intro
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't think it does, there is nothing specifically coded for that
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I'll check it out on the test port and see how it works
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Third question, in the stat minwin, what's the stat for ave bls trains tracking?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: average blessing trains?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Don't do it!  I wanna play pokemon!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Has Hadar's website gone down?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: hadar.ninja?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It appears to be on my side.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nah, it's a suspended account.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not that he ever updated it anywa.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: man running mush through wine off a jump drive is sure causing lots of errors and stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: anyone know if there is a way to change the size of the S&D GUI?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ylar wrote a resize code for it for Starling's version.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: ohh, do you know where i could find that?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Finger Starling, then check the forks.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: hmm all three of those files from starling are giving me errors and won't load                 Line   42: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ugh, I'm finding it difficult to write this complex regex. Trying to do search/replace. 7 letter combinations, needing to remove all combinations where the following criteria are met: Letter 4 is not A or S or letter 6 is not H or L, or letter 7 is not Y or A. So if I had a list of SOLARIS, PULTICE, FARDING, HANDLE, PERSONAL, it'd remove PULTICE, FARDING.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley sighs.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wouldn't that be easier to do with whatever language you're using's string manipulation?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It'll certainly be more readable when you have to look at the code 6 months from now
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, it's regex in Search/Replace.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Visual Studio Code. You can do search/replace with regex strings.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, but in the time you'll spend making the regex and debugging it, you could whip up a function that just does it and is actually readable too
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, the problem is, I'm trying to whittle down a list of 11,000 words to only contain words that meet that criteria. So, I don't even have it set up as a word list, though, hmm.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kafur Tech: ^...[^AS].[^HL][^YA]$  is that good enough?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, I tried that, and it didn't do the job as it should have. I don't think... maybe I messed something up when I tried it.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, maybe I did mess something up. I think I forgot to put a letter between 4 and 6 when I did it.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sad thing is, it only dropped off 2k combinations.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But wait, no, it didn't work anyway. Odd.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh wait, yes it did. Silly me.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: has anyone replaced the keyboard of a macbook air ?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I didn't replace the keyboard, but I did fix the track pad on my wife's, it's a 2010-2ish model though, it did require I remove the keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah, this is a 2012 or 2013 model
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: it was some time ago, what's the question?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: trying to figure out if it's worth replacng the keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: most keyboards are pretty easy to replace, even apple probably couldn't screw that up
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: They could charge $400 for the keyboard though, heh
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah, that's what I was tihking about
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What's the computer's goal, primary use?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well a 13" air keyboard is $18 on amazon
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Are you looking for an excuse to upgrade? If not, I'd replace it
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: $18?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: not sure ow much longer t will last
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well its not OEM but seems to be several options
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: you will need a star/pentalobe screw head
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I bought the "TEKTON 2830 Everybit (TM) Precision Bit and Driver Kit" on amazon for the repair
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: How can I set the mapper cexit timer to a longer duration for this command? It takes long than 2 seconds. I can't find anything in the mapper help
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper cexit_wait <seconds>  (Found under 'mapper help exits')
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: how do you add the plugin package for a new world?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: How do I get rid of all the tags in the client like everytime I cast a spell or go into a room I am getting rdesc at the start and end of each room etc.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What client are you using? Because Aard MUSH clobbers those lines by default
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: The aardowlf client
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: did you disable the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Negative
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Well those lines are used by plugins usually and shouldn't be seeing them, you can turn them on/off with 'tag' command, but if you're seeing them means something might not be working right... 
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Interesting, ty for the help Daak
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Any idea to tell which plugin is giving me a lot of lag on level ups? Talking 5-10 seconds when I level up
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: I just downloaded the latest version of Fiendish's Mushclient.  Is it safe to copy over my old aardwolf.db map file from my older 4.79 version of mushclient?  I am worried that I might be replacing important updates that might have been done to the db file since I updated last?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: save both copy's in a different directory for safe keeping, if either get messed up you have copy's
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: or wait for fiendish to respond as I have nor eal clue lol
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Is it impossible to call aliases from other aliases? I'm trying to make portal aliases that will get portals from a bag, hold, enter, put portal back in bag and rewield my current dual weapon. It seems to stop because I'm trying to make it "get3" (an alias that gets * from bag with id so-and-so). Do I need to use the bag number in all aliases, or what?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: Zcrim - sounds like a safe way to go, ty kindly =)
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for updating aardMUSH, it is safe to put an old mapper file into a new aardMUSH installation. The mapper plugin will detect that the file is old, and it will update it to the new schema. But yeah, always work on copies :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaleya: you never need to use item IDs. In order to allow one MUSHclient alias to call another MUSHclient alias, use the "Send to" drop-down to select "execute" rather than "world". That way it behaves as if you typed it into the command line, rather than just sending its alias contents to the world.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: thank you Abelinc! =)
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: So, what language was this written in?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: The MUD? Probably c++?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: originally, maybe migrated to something more modern, dunno
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: C++? C? JavaScript?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://www.aardwolf.com/v3/v3diku.html
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: is there no way someone could download a windows update, compress it and send it to me?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: What do you mean by windows update?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i can send you a windowsupdate.exe
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: windows releases offline updates for those who do not have internet access to download them directly to their device
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: So, why would you want that?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: if it is offline, how do you download it
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: ignore download and add update
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: via my phone at campus (use wifi)
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: so it is online then
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: the file can be used offline :p
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: I will now give a class on the components of the common pc.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: First, open the pc up
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: if you are downloading it, it is online
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or do they provide you with a floppy disk?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or does Abelinc deliver it personally in a sealed envelope
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: Floppy disks are too outdated. What version of Windows do you use?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: okay, let me rephrase rather, it will not take more than 20 mins of your time, majority is download time anyway. Cam
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: can someone google windows 10 1607 offline november cumilative update, download the x64 bit one from ms update catalogue and compress it
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: For about 2b gold, sure.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: fine is 1.2gig and yeah :p i am on a very capped plan so downloading it prolly takes 6 months of my data :p
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: windows for workgroups 3.11
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: What pc do you have?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I have a couple
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hp
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: a pentium mmx166 is my main driver
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I also have a 386 and an XT
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: File is only 872MB.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: november 2017?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, might be November 2016.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dillon perks up and stares intently at A Nimwit Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Downloading as we speak.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: make sure you put it on 5" floppies
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But I only have 3" floppies. (
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh... wrong kind of floppy. Okay.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: what is a floppy, master?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 637ms Avg: 1251ms Max: 1642ms}
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The lag is real tonight, yo.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i am installing windows 8 pro and i have windows 10 iso, will it give me an option to upgrade for free?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: from win 8
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Until the end of the year, I think. 
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how come my 'upgrade' from win 7 to 8 is taking so long, it is stuck by the installation screen
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It didn't go 7 -> 10?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: nah, i have home premium of win 7, trying to get it to pro version of 8 then im taking it to 10
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, you do realize that the cumulative update is already compressed, and recompressing it isn't going to save you bandwidth, right?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Anyone on who is familiar with basts plugins? I am trying to setup the spellup plugins but not sure exactly which plugins I need to have installed for it to work?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: bast_spellup, PluginFunctions (might get auto added) and miniwin_spellup helps
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just load bast_spellups, it autoloads everything else. If you want the miniwindow then just load miniwin_spellup and it will load everything, including bast_spellup
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Alright I think I got it all loaded up and running, how do you add your spellups to the list if you know/remember?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Oh its bast :oP Hai Bast
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: https://web.archive.org/web/20151219113036/https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/bast_spellup
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can either use the miniwindow to toggle them or use "bsp sadd <spellup>"
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: so it would be bsp sadd all then when you get a new buff do you have to repeat that same command everytime you learn a new spell?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, until you have all of them that you want, then they stay around between remorts
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Awesome, ty for the help bast
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: Who wants to learn how to open their pc up to see whats inside?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: :D
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: Can you make me unlearn it, I want less relatives to ask me to help them out...
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: lol, its easy.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: Well, there is typically buttons or a lever to pull; to open the pc.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: it's easy to unlearn anything, Xergon. watch 12 uninterrupted hours of duck dynasty episodes. you'll be a drooling bumbling veg in no time. :P
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: Once open, you should see a big metallic object that is tall and shiny. It should be rectangular, and look like long flat blades. That is the cpu radiator.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: There is a smaller object that looks sorta like the radiator: thats the graphics chip radiator.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: Then, there is some green boards standing up, that is RAM
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm. Lua function question here. I want to create a function that iterates through x amount of tabled arguments, concacting the value from each table into a final result until all values have been iterated through. For example, I have a table with {1, 2} as values, and a second table with {3, 4} as values, so it should return 13, 14, 23, 24 (tables HAVE to remain in order)
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So... how would I go about doing that? *ponder*
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: repeat that please
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Monst snores loudly.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: tl;dr: I want a function that does this: function combine({1, 2}, {3, 4}, {5, 6}) to return 135, 136, 145, 146, 235, 236, 245, 246... no matter how many tabled arguments there are.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Side note: It could also be {1,2,3}, {4,5}, {6, 7, 8, 9}
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: for a,b in ipairs(table1) do table3[a] = tonumber(tostring(table1[a]) .. tostring(table2[a])) end
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk if theyre strings/numbers or whatever
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Kash: But it can have multiple tables. Could have 4, 5, 6, 7 tables, etc.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's variable.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thatd be a bit more complex then
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you should probably use nested tables for that
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and the function wouldnt be that much different
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Set up the loop using a fixed number of variables, then once you have that working properly add in error detection and flexibility
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: probably need nested for loops though
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I mean, I can do it the long way, and have been for a while (adding/removing tables, etc). But damn it, I just want to make it easier.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley looks at Birdbrain Metria ponderingly.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: English please
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: if you don't understand what anyone is saying here, then you don't belong on tech. *blink*
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley tickles Monst.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I belong here
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: But I wear the glasses... 
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: the nerd glasses
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: Dont I belong?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay here's something a little easier: is there any reason why I wouldn't want to buy a Nighthawk AC1750 router?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How much does it cost?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hah, you remind me of those "gamer girl nerds" that wear glasses and think they're nerds just because they do.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: $99
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The real question is... is there any reason you couldn't do with a cheaper router?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I bought a cheaper router and it randomly drops connections and apparently it's a common issue with this router and has no solution and I'm sick of it.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't buy it just because. If you just need a router, don't waste extra money. If it has a feature you want, then yeah, spend the money.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: I have an older Nighthawk router and the thing is built like a tank.  I only rebooted it a couple of times in the past few years
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have a $20 TP Link router and it was pretty good for about a year but sometimes throughput goes to crap and i have to reboot it
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: needs to be dual band, needs to be wired/wireless, prefer it to be gigabit.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Just make sure it's got firmware update that fixes the latest WPA2 exploit
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: dual band is a nice feature
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you transfer large amounts of data over your home network, or have a ridiculously fast ISP?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I had an ASUS router that didn't have the 5GHz band and completely died on me after 2 years and now a Linksys that checks all the boxes but has an intermittent connection dropping issue that's apparently inherent to the device.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wouldn't buy anything without 5 GHz. The 2.4 GHz band is completely shit up in my neighborhood
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I get about 150Mbps down. don't do big file transfers over the home network often but I do sometimes.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i guess if you are in tight quarters with your neighbors it could help
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyway, my last two routers have been disappointing for one reason or another. I feel like $99 is a reasonable amount for a new router and it'd be nice to not worry about having to replace it for a while.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there a way to stop Cortana from searching for web results?  i have the 'creators' update or whatever its called
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: use Linux
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i use win7
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: People who think they're funny by suggesting that other OS's be used should be shot.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there used to be a setting but i cant find one now
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I thought it took a registry hack
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think Creator's Update limited a lot of things.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Endy: https://www.windowscentral.com/node/39373 <-- Try that.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah its just not the same on this update
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Endymion
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cant even access settings without signing in to MS account
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you're a smart fellow do you have any strong opinions on the Nighthawk router
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: which is kind of backwards but expected
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i do not, sorry.  i'm more frugal so i wouldn't want to spend $100 on a router
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but i don't need dual band
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i swear every damn router has a problem eventually, OR its because i always buy cheap ones :)
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Consumer networking gear tends to be crap
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea cheap ones tend to not be able to handle lots of devices/traffic
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think it was Robbo that recommended the Netgear Nighthawk series as being nice
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Endy: Try this one, then: https://www.top-password.com/blog/?p=8989
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I've got an archer.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I got a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite and a UniFi AP and my router has uptime of 647 days right now
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: who was it that told me Nighthawk then
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wow crowley, it can't find 'gpedit.msc'
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's some shit right there. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: apparently its because Home version not Pro
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Try the second method, then?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That one is the registry hack.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oh it was mr cheezburger who recommended Nighthawk
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there is no way to disable in regedit as described either
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh wait, can create it, trying that
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Anyone looking for a VPN, PureVPN has a lifetime subscription price drop. Normally costs $597.00. For the next 4 days, you can pay $69.99 for a lifetime subscription.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Heck of a price drop.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 89%.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Comcast gonna block the hell out of it in a couple weeks.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: werent they the company that just released logs to the FBI on someone?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, don't know.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh yeah, for the cyberstalker.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm cool with that, since it probably saved someone's life.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i am too... but for a company that claims they dont log....
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ih
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth hiccups.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fair enough. Probably the reason for the drastic price drop, haha.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Solution to Crowley's question earlier: https://pastebin.com/10dNjKHd
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I haven't used tail recursion for decades :p
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Holy geez, Durel. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Very much appreciated.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Lol, I've been busy doing non-lua stuff for the last month and this seemed like a fun way to get back in :p
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gave cortana the boot with a registry setting: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-disable-cortana
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So you opted to just delete it permanently, haha.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now i can use search button or click windows and start typing
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well that input box is now gone, i wouldnt mind keeping that but its just a click to hit spyglass button instead of cortana textbox anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just fyi, none of the 'disable web search' registry hacks worked.  had to just disable cortana
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well thats what i have been trying to do for ages, hopefully it worked. will see when i next reboot in a week or two
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i bet if i logged in, mr. gates would allow me to 'turn it off' while stlil collecting my data
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thanks for finding it for me endy :p
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello hello
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here for now
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Why is it that everytime I relog or close/open my client I get tags that come back on when I turned them off?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Aards client
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which tags specifically?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Coords keeps turning itself back on
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you using any third party plugins, or just what came with the client?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: I am using S/D and Bast Spellup plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you know what...
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is kinda interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: let me just quaduriple check again to make sure it is doing it brb
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Yep turned them back on
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hit ctrl+shift+p and tell me if any of your plugins are not enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: they are all enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you have the bigmap plugin loaded?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type 'p data' and tell me the last 4 characters in your rawcolor game prompt and rawcolor battle prompt
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also type checkversion and tell me what version it says you have
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: game = >%c battle = Same
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so they end with %c?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: R1825
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or maybe %c@w
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ( @@ -> @ )
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I tell you what, if you're willing to update to r1946, please try it and see if the problem goes away. I can't guarantee that it will, but it's possible that in the past year or so I fixed something related
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: troubleshooting an old version is always a potential distraction
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Oh I didnt realize my version was that old. I had gotten it from the website when i re-downloaded lol
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: don't forget to backup your map file
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just make a backup copy of your whole mushclient folder. it's easer that way.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: new versions use an installer that will update whatever files need to be updated and leave your map databaes alone
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: whats the website to get the newest version from you again?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Ty Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: What is the command to realign windows in MUSHclient when they get all out of whack?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: THANKS!
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder where dethavin went
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Okay, I tried resetaard, but my S&D window is stuck above the tool bar, and I can't grab onto it to drag it down.  Any clues on that one?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Bingo!!  THX!
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: If I wanted to find the font and text size that was the default on my previous build I was using where would I go to find that?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Aardwolf.mcl, output_font_name, output_font_height (also input_font_*)
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: No I mean where would I go to change it in the client?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: alt+5
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait, the global default or the one that's being used?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: like the global default for what shoots through for the main game? The older versions of the client had a smaller font/size that I liked better
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the global default is found under File->Global Preferences->Defaults
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: each world can have its own font set or can be set to just ues the global default
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Strange I have both clients open and you can clearly tell the font size and spacing is much smaller on the old version yet the global defaults are the same
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe one is not using the global default
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hit alt+5 in both and see what they're set to use
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Ah I see
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: it seems at some point in time you changed it from 9pt to 10pt as well as enabled underline as default
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you don't have underline enabled then it's impossible to underline hyperlinks
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: changing from 9pt to 10pt, I don't remember but it seems plausible
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heck, I use 11
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im using 9 and it could be a bit smaller
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Well its back to 9pt for me and now everything is right in the world again, Thank you again for the help Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: np. the tags issue is gone?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Am I an old man if I use 12-pt?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Oh Well the coord tags is on, is it supposed to be on by default
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is supposed to be on, but it gets hidden by a plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the coords tag only gets turned on because you can't turn the bigmap tags on via telopt without also turning on coords
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suppose I could turn it back off...
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the plugin is supposed to be hiding them
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Want me to try turning it off and relogging to see if it auto turns it back on?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I only want you to tell me if you _see_ them
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: It just says {coords}-l at the botton of every room name
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what room are you in?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Currently in my clan 
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well there's a trigger in the bigmap plugin that matches on "^\{coords\}-1$" and omits from output
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: In Aylor it gives me {coords}0,30,20
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's also a trigger that matches on "^\{coords\}(?<zone>\d+)\,(?<x>\d+)\,(?<y>\d+)$" and omits from output
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you have triggers disabled?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hit shift+contrl+8
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Well its a fresh install of the newest client so I dont think so?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: make sure Enable Triggers is checked
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Its enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: peculiar
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what plugins did you say you have installed?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: At the moment I am using S/D and Bast Spellup and Spellup Miniwin
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and 'bigmap help' shows you some text?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: when I type bigmap help it gives me "Invalid bigmap option given."
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ahah. see, that means you don't have the plugin loaded
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: load Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical.xlm
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: xml
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical states its enabled under plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wat
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kash grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok but that's clearly false
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bigmap off
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Invalid bigmap option given. :(
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dethavin goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: this is getting VERY interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Rex Daemon Crowley's weird actions.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: say again, crowley?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, tried bigmap off and bigmap on. Invalid bigmap options given.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you serious?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: r1944 is my version.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the bigmap plugin hasn't changed in years
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Well I am able to turn it on and off with that command
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, guess I didn't have the plugin installed.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Whoops.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Okay, so those commands work, then.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so..
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dethavin: you can use bigmap on and bigmap off, but not bigmap help?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: So I am able to turn on and off bigmap but I cannot use bigmap help
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's bonkers
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm able to bigmap help.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dethavin: do    \\\CallPlugin("60840c9013c7cc57777ae0ac", "OnHelp")
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Type that into the client itelf?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: \\\ in the aardwolf client means to run that as Lua code
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: copy and pasted/entered that and it did nothing
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing at all?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Nada tried it 3 times
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Maybe he should just grab the plugin from github and install it anew.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: he just updated
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unless there was an error in the installer and the file was locked or something...
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, so it should have been overwritten with the new.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which I guess could have happened
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but then we're in reboot and install again territory, which I hate
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't blame you there.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dethavin: the only thing I can think of at this point is that you have a modified plugin loaded and also that your system is configured to not let it be replaced by the installer
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I don't know of another reason for you to have on/off aliases but not the help alias
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Wait you know there is one file I am using thats not exactly a plugin but it might be causing this
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: It didnt even register until now
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok go ahead
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: WinkleWinkle_MobSubs
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no idea what that does
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disable it and see what happens
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Hmm no way of disabling it since it stays in the main dir, lemme remove it and relog
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uhh
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is it a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is it?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Im not exactly sure what it is, but it helps with hunt and fixing certain names so it hunt correctly
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bot plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, I can't imagine what would ever interfere with bigmap help
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unless you're, like, holding it wrong 
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kash snickers with Long Time Fiendish about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: The way it was explained to me was that S/D messes up certain long hunt names and this fixes that.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok but literally nothing and nobody uses bigmap except for me as far as I know
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its probably the part of s&d that strips out unneccessary words from mob names to get keywords
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: which still couldnt interfere with bigmap help
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you updated, you installed on top of the previous install?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Tech I installed to a new folder and then just transfered my aliases, plugins and log files over.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: and Database
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The hard way, in other words
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what if you try doing that again but this time without transferring anything over
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: see if it's maybe something you copied over
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: sure one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Okay
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm going to head over to my gate from this empty bar. Hopefully back very soon.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: So it would seem that it would have to be either winkles 2 plugins for the Map Extender/SD or Basts Spellup plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: because on this base version they are finally not showing
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok so which one
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for the record, I use bast's miniwindow spellup and do not have this issue
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: I did something while running around and now my main window shrank. Any ideas how to get it back? (Mush Client)
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use mouse to maximize it?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: just the mini window with in Client, not the actual window
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if window supports resize then it is enough just to click on right-bottom triangle and resize it
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: Yeah, mouse won't do anything. Shows arrows to resize but doesn't do anything
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can always reset the layout too... sometimes that helps if things get too weird
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depends on what is that window for
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: It has to be a keyboard short cut that I hit somehow.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it belongs to mushclient package then resetting layout should help
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: How do you reset the layout?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it if belongs to some other plugin then you need either reload plugin or use plugin command for resize
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well if you change main window size, things will change size to fit inside of it
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: it is main output window, room descrip, chat, everything
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: resetaard or something like that
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe you've accidentaly locked layout
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: that helped a bit. I can see the window and resize it a little, but it seems like there is a barrier mid screen. Can't extend window below it.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then tyep: "aard layout unlock" and try resizing
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: still no luck, it only lets me expand it on the top third of my screen. 
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try restarting client then
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: Ah, found it. Some how it opened up aard again.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: Somehow it seems like I would have opened a second Aardwolf using shortcut keys that I don't know. lol
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan starts moaning.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: Thank you for the help. 
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: what color goes best with my MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: purple
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I like purple
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone ever use the website browze.com? an add from them just showed up for a NES with 600 built in games for 29.95.. seem legit? I want one of those units but never heard of the website
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no idea, but why not do a Raspberry Pi build?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 600 NES games means it's probably not on the up-and-up
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: my mushclient somehow jumped halfway off the screen and now I can't get it back
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: any ideas on why my resolution suddenly changed to display larger than normal? thinkin i caught a virus since nothing i try is fixing it.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: so my display is much larger than it should be. i can't even see my whole mush window, just the bottom left corner. granted that's the most important part but still annoying. i've tried rebooting, resetting the resolution, nothing changes it though.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: are you on a laptop or desktop
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: desktop windows 10
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Have you tried removing your glasses, or moving away from the screen
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Have you checked to see if your GPU crashed or died?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: i don't know how to check that so no
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: bambi i'm not going to justify that with a reply :P
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Your loss!
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: also oddly enough when i run a malware bytes scan for viruses, it finds, 12 and only quarentines 9, so i'm guessing that may have something to do with the display issue i'm having.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: normally it would quarentine anything it found.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewDaddy Korridel Tech: Stupid question. Anyone here on Shaw in Canada and having network issues? Customer support line is down, and having issues accessing websites :P
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd imagine if their customer support line is down, it means there's network issues.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Shaw is taking over from Rogers in my mother's retirement residence.  it was probably too much for them to handle.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NewDaddy Korridel laughs out loud at Kylia.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers with Kylia about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: They're trying to install today, actually.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Uh guys, we're having problems...Eh, just unplug the phones.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: well looks like korridel jumpex on the net
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: is there a sript out there that changes the number to retreat direction when in combat?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: er number pad
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: oh what a beautiful idea for aplugin
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can utilize the keypad's secondary function (I think it's hold down control) to add more commands.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: okay thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, Keypad configuration, click "Show Contents if Ctrl yadda", add 'retreat <dir>' for all directions. Then in combat, just hit ctrl+<numpad dir>
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i did not know that existed
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: works great thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys, could anyone please tell me how to reset the gui for s%d? the thing moved up on my screen cant drag it down 
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol this must be the most common question that anyone ever asks
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xreset gui
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hehee :) it sucks i ve done it so many times but dont do it a for a while and then i forgot :p 
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Starling and get updated S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: xreset gui doesnt work :o
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: or do it the old-fashioned way.
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xset reset gui ?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: that works :p
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: i should put that as an alias :p
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it's in ww help
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: What is the command to restore missing windows, like chat and stats?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define missing
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: disabled maybe?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: tech Chat plugin is loaded, but I have no mini-window
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess you can try resetaard, but it will move more than just that plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if that worked, you might consider using the layout save and restore feature in recent versions
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a way to put Mushclient into a debug mode? I keep getting crashed out while not at the keyboard for a few hours and I would like to see the log of why
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: hi! i'm playing with the gmcp in my client, and trying to use the documented request commands, but it seems like nothing happens. i'm sending IAC SB GMCP request room IAC SE (substituted with the telnet control codes). has anyone experienced this?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: why are you sending things into the mud over gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: to get the stats/info again right after reloading my scripts.
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: which right now throws out all of my local variables
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is your json correct?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: it's not even in json format, following the instructions in the wiki (http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP#gmcpcomm)
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, so are you using the gmcphelper? Or building your own?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: building my own actually
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so you are basically just "request char"?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: yup, which should be okay depending on http://www.gammon.com.au/gmcp 'In the case of Aardwolf..' section
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: /// require "gmcphelper" charstatus = gmcp("char.status") tprint(charstatus)
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that will print the return of a call to char.status
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: i guess it's a mushclient script, but i'm using tintin++
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: .... would have been helpful to know
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: i can send the very same way the core.hello and core.supports.set messages, which works just fine
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: well yeah, sry for that
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but you should be able to read through the mushclient gmcphelper and pull the bits you need for tintin
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: Shindo: just did that. it does the same thing with any gmcp requests, sending IAC SB GMCP <request body> IAC SE
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh i was thinking you could just convert it to work with tintin, the logic should all be the same, if tintin doesn't also use lua
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: nvm, i'm able to request data via standard commands, just had to read the wiki more carefully. eg. 'protocols gmcp sendstats' makes the server send char.stats again
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: tanks anyway :)
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eliar: I use tinyfuge rather than tintin++, but similarly have written GMCP-handling stuff myself into it, including being able to send GMCP commands to the MUD...
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I use my "send-gmcp" function to send "request area" the same way that I send "Core.Supports.Set [ "Char 1", "Comm 1", etc., it correctly sends me the GMCP area info