T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: does anyone have like a notepad type plugin for mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: clarify
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: something i can make notes in, like a miniwindow that i can edit that saves across load
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i know about mapper notes but im looking for something that isnt based on the room
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: miniwindow means something particular
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a miniwindow you can edit would be abysmally difficult to make
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and that might handle multiline notes, i almost always have a windows notepad open but then i reboot or windows reboots itself and i lose it all
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea thats kind of what i figured
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: how about using notepad ++
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient does have a notepad though
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well i have notepad++ does it save unsaved documents?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: write them in libreoffice and set it to autosave
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm yea, i would just like to have it in mushclient though
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: notepad++ doesn't save to hard drive, yet, when you reopen the program, it will show the unsaved files 
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you can save to hard drive too if you want.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i have this blank space right next to my group window where i could write your name if i had a miniwindow that would let me :p
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: maybe ill work on that next, would be a good way to introduce myself to miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i have many tabs opened in notepad++ right now, has many tabs, actually too many, some are saved files, some arnt, and when i shut down the computer it, program, closes, then when i turn back on the computer, and turn on notepad++ all the documents reappear, saved and non-saved.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah yea, thats a nice feature to have. i think i knew notepad++ did that but i never even considered using it for that purpose
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: when I tell a script to create a database, where does that file show up?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: do DatabaseExec and db:exec do the same thing?  or ... ?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So I created a database file via lua, but it doesn't contain any tables or anything, even though it should have.  What is wrong?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can a script have two databases open at once?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling peers around herself intently.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how does db:exec work?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: sometimes I wonder why I even have this channel..
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this sql stuff is really confusing
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: starling a long time ago i wrote a wrapper for sqlite in aardmush: https://paste.laravel.io/87c39b91-886c-45cf-b242-2841437ebbf1
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and you use it like that: https://paste.laravel.io/d9ea891d-10ac-4b5f-a79a-f6c54eca825a
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: h anyone know why blostorch freezes up when i play music and aard
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i have enough power for the game and music
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lasher does not like the music you're listening :P
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: my pho e keeps quittiing  on blowtorch. any ixeas
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: hey all. my old mush version used to give me the room id at the bottom of the room's description, and I upgraded to the new mush today, and it doesn't do that anymore. anyone know how to get that back?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: click the * in the top left corner of the mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: click top left corner of the miniwindow to show map config, select show room ID to ON
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: is there a command line option?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: trying to make a command 'additem' that works like this:  additem a b  would add items a and b to a table.  But additem 'a b' should add 'a b' as a single item.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what string.gmatch pattern do I need?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I'm a vi player and clicking on the mapper window isn't an option for me, that's why I'm wondering if there's a command line option to access the config dialog.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thought Fiendish had a vi-geared version?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: he does. 
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I'm using it right now, I just am trying to turn the show room id option on in config, and evidently the only way to do that is to click on something on the mapper window.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, the show room ID only shows it on the gmcp mapper anyway.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: What you can do is open the file in MUSHclient/lua/aardmapper.lua, and ctrl-F search for "SHOW_ROOM_ID = false" and when found, change false to true.  Then save file.  Then go back to mush, ctrl-shift-P to bring up plugin menu, reinstall aardwolf gmcp mapper.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: thanks, Starling.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: That should make the room id default to on rather than off
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: let me know if that works
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I'll do it right now and let you know.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: that didn't work. I presume it's most likely because the mapper isn't shown.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You'd be correct. As I mentioned, "Show Room ID" only affects the gmcp mapper.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you looking to have it displayed on the main output (perhaps after the room title, for example)?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: give me a moment to look at it
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yes. it used to be below the room title.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: actually, below the room title and its contents, if any.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: it would say something like Location: manorwoods #52792 or whatever.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you sure you're not thinking about the movement points displayed by room titles while running?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ah, okay. I think that's something completely different, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I need to afk for a while, so if you come up with a workaround, just send me a note on personal. :) and thanks again for the help.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical.xml:   local coords = string.format ("Location: %2i, %2i", origx, origy)
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's wrong, Pwar.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That only shows the current x and y coordinates from Big Map.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: didn't say it was right was just looking for the text
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok, wow, yep, there is no visual map, is there?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not for VI players...
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so you want something like "room id: 12345" or ... ?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Serves no purpose for them.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and it talks
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I downloaded it
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Byrnatha, are you still around?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Guess not. I just wrote a trigger for her, heh. Will do precisely what she wants.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: https://pastebin.com/SsyNHyxW if anyone is interested. Gonna send her a tell now, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: eh, screw it
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can't come up with anything that doesn't bomb the mapper or cause a disconnect
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ever get your answer to db:exec, by the way?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: whatever, yet another thing I'm apparently getting wrong and don't understand.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley peers intently at Real ninja Starling.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello all
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions something something
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kash goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fiendish: A VI user was asking about a setting that displayed the room ID under the title. I couldn't find it in any setting, so I wrote a quick and dirty trigger for her. However, if such a setting exists for VI users, where is it? Or what's the command?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: under the title of what
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm sorry, I meant under the room name.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mapper thisroom?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: She claimed it said something like: Location: manorwoods #12345
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No, she said it was a setting that always displayed, I guess.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I didn't think it existed anywhere, so I wrote the trigger.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I doubt it. I mean, there is an option like that for the mapper display, but for a VI player?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it wouldn't be too hard to do though
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh sorry, you said you did it already
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if something does that, it's not one of mine
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if she finds it useful then I'd be very happy to look at it if you find it
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Okay, good. I didn't want to miss some piece of vital information.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or if what you've made fills the same need, then I'd be happy to look at that too
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd imagine it's quite useful for some VI players, especially when it comes to mazes or something.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Like I said, it's quick and dirty for what it is. Tags roomname on, trigger on {rname}*, omit, and Note("Location: " .. gmcp("room.info.zone") .. " #" .. gmcp("room.info.num"))
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Er, Note("%1\\nLocation: " ....
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anything omitting the roomname would need to be careful
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe only in VI mode
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Made sure to put it back without the {rname} tag.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: simulated or noted?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Noted, though I don't know if Notes process on the reader.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Can be changed easily to Simulated, of course.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Didn't bother with TSR because color isn't typically needed with VI.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: god I have no idea if notes work. I flowering hope so
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd imagine it does, since it's legit text on a screen, and not being triggered.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've lost the ability to run SAPI in wine for some reason
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I can't easily test anymore
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's barely text
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least it's not a trigger though
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it were a trigger then we'd know for sure that it doesn't work, so I guess there's that
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I got my new router, and it won't connect to the internet through my modem. my PC won't connect to the internet when hooked up directly to the modem. everything works fine with the old router. this is 100% the ISP blocking the new MAC address, right?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raded: hook up the old router and do a dhcp release from it
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (if you can)
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ISP won't block routers, only modems.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: otherwise you might have to power off your modem for a while 
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that would've been smart.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: As far as I know, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think some do
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyxyz Tech: your new router may have the ability to spoof the MAC address of your old router
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not block, as such, just only assign one IP address at a time
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No ISP I've ever dealt with has done a router block. If they do, it's completely stupid.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mine definitely does
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I tried the spoof thing
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you look online for instructions on how to replace your FIOS router, the first instruction is always unlease DHCP
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but powering off your modem for a few minutes will likely also do the trick
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well, the Comcast chat person is linking me to a page saying that Comcast only supports about 9 routers, so I think I might be hooking up the old router to do the release.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's probably a lie though
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that's what I figured
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I had Comcast before, too.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: can't the chat person just do this for me
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: once your signal has moved to ethernet, it doesn't matter what equipment you use because the protocols from then on are standardized
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Horrible customer service, in my experience. Even their management team is shit. But I couldn't complain about the uncapped data I was getting for life due to their screw up.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Fiendish: I figured, but I think I'm about to be told otherwise
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you get into funny complications only when trying to replace a MOCA device
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Raded: You will be.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raded: do you have the make/model of the one that works?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But if you want to really mess with them, just say something like, "Yeah, I know the script. I used to work at Comcast until they did me dirty."
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Linksys EA7300, just plugged it back in
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantik Tech: You think dealing with the cable company is bad when it comes to internet?  Try having them activate a CableCARD (that *they* provide).
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raded: 100% sure that whatever else you put instead of that will work once the dhcp lease expires
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I wonder if reseting the modem from my Comcast account would have done the same thing. I did power down the modem but only for two minutes or so.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Reseting the modem should have been enough
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it wasn't, that's why I did the Comcast chat thing
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: old router isn't connecting to the internet now either. thinking I should just unplug the modem and go do something else for a bit.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Did they mention anything about being able to reach your modem from their side? Sorry if you said so before
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: boo hoo you have FIOS.  i wish i had your problems
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Endymion's weird actions.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no, but the modem shows that it's connected on the device and on the Comcast website.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the last time i did a dhcp release on my isp it took like 20 minutes before i was assigned another ip
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Any idea if the modem was setup in bridge mode for the old router?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wait i thought i saw FIOS, now im confused
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mentioned it in passing
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unrelated to this problem
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh heh
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now i hate raded just a little less
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can hate me if you want?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i appreciate the sentiment
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I pay for 50mbps and only get 25
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded thanks Endymion heartily.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Daak: I don't think so. I seem to remember the modem working when I plugged it in and then I never did anything else to it.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think I pay for 100mbps and get 125ish
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: during off hours, at leas
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so your modem isn't working right
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ISPs say it can take 1/2 hour+ for provisioning to activate a new one
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't know, man.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you use old modem and it works, then its prolly not updated provisioning yet.. cause only 1 should work for you
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's the same modem, new router
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so I'm going to unplug everything and let time work its magic
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats what id do
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my modem has a built in router, so i set a static ip for my actual wireless router i use
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: unplug modem, wait 20 minutes, plug mode, wait for it to full reset, plug in new router, if it doesn't work, repeat process with old router
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did your old router have a static ip?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 20 minutes? for what?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: for giggles?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: DHCP lease to expire maybe
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no static IP
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if it hasnt expired you get it back
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ok well everything is off and I'mma go to the store.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: thanks for hanging out with me, bois.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded misses the 'v' and wabes.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: pick me up some wine coolers will ya
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im afraid his router is fubar, cause this doesnt make sense to me
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its not the router its the dumbass isp or the dumbass modem
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: probably both
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so his modem doesnt provide the ip?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the wan ip.  why would his ISP affect anything past the wan ip?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe he didnt plug his wireless router into his modem
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its so hard to try and help people without being there. i wish i was at raded's house
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: correct, his modem is not providing his router with a wan ip
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i didnt mean to say provide, per se
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Endymion Tech: its so hard to try and help people without being there. i wish i was at raded's house
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bro
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: aww that pinkness
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: so sensual
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so I tried it again after getting home, no luck. PC directly into modem, nothing. unplugged the modem again, plugged it back in already plugged in to the PC, success. hooked everything back up through the router, no luck.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: lol i thought something wrong with my eyes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: went through manual internet setup on the router, spoofed the MAC address of the PC, voila.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea seems like a DHCP lease thing
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but it doesn't make sense that it wouldn't have worked after being unplugged for hours then coming back and starting with the router
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: for kicks I tried switching it back to the router's MAC address with all other settings the same and it wouldn't connect again.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ive had similar issues with my isp
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: after dhcp release and switching routers it took awhile before my new router could connect
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: restart modem, that should clear its arp cache
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: usually though, if i dont dhcp release and connect a new device directly to modem it connects right away
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm not messing with success
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i wouldnt
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've never not had a router connect right away after having the modem off for a few minutes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyway, I'm leaving Aard on all night, because I'm testng things.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: goodnight friends
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: me neither, only time i ever had issues with somethong like that was when i dhcp released
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: hey all, having some problems with my MUSHclient. The minmap window no longer displays the map and i'm getting 4 lines of blue prompts every tick. I've changed no settings since I last played
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: blue prompts?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Derp, can you check if you have the Aardwolf_ASCII_Mapper plugin installed? shift+ctr+p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: Its displaying "Regular game prompt rawcolor game prompt regular battle prompt and rawcolor battle prompt"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: I have no idea.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: checking
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: for the prompt, if you have never customized it, try prompt all to reset it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: thats a yes to Mapper plugin installed
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ok this is a last-resort method, but harmless, it will reset your windows. resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: This is so strange since i've changed no settings from when I played 2 hours ago =\
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: ok I did resetaard command. Nothing changed
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: every few lines i'm getting "{prompt fixer end}
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what does it say when you type automap ?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: you will no longer see the map auto when you move
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ok, renable that. so that is a good sign 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: I just want it in the little window like before. 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: this is above my paygrade a) you have the plugin b) you reset windows c) you are receiving the map
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: I guess I would understand if I had changed anything from 2 hours ago but I just closed the application =\
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: for the map missing, you can try talking to fiendish to see if he has ideas. for the prompt, i dont  know if that is on the client-side or Aardwolf-side
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: Search "{prompt" (1 hit in 1 file) :/
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: Line 737045: [02 Dec 03:22:42] Derpindaisy Tech: every few lines i'm getting "{prompt fixer end}
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: This is the current output every tick Regular Game Prompt    : [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %qqt %Xtnl] > 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: oops, multi line msg there.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i wonder if a plugin is missing
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: quick question about prompts is there a way to make it more then one line?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: looks like something is sending "p data" every tick...
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Ryltar i think so but I haven't tried it. the helpfile shows %%c as the carriage return
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: ya heres one of the 4 lines "[Fighting: %h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %Xtnl%b ]>%"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: and then this after that : {prompt fixer end}
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: and its flooding the world really hard
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if you type "p data" does it show the same output ?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you need to go throgh your plugins i think, one of them is being a bastard
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: I reinstalled all of them. i'll try again. I'm just using whatever the MUSHclient came with. havn't changed any settings.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you havent installed a single plugin that didnt come with mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: correct, nothing additional.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk then, anyone with a more recent version of mush want to do a grep for {prompt?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that is not in any file in my mushclient directory
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: except my chatlog, which is when you said it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and even still, it probably wouldnt interfere with your ascii map
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: ya I just went through and reinstalled every plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: I guess i'll delete the folder and try reinstalling
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: what happens when you type tags map on?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: turns on
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but still no map window?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: yup no map window and tons of blue text prompt spam
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: im going to delete and start over wish me luck ha
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: good luck?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: well I guess something must have gotten corrupted 3 hours ago when I last played
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: fresh install fixed everything
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: whats the command to set home as bouncerecall? it kept saying i need to use home or recall command to bounce recall and im usin home - mapper goto xxxx
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: whats wrong  there?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: first mark your portal as home portal - mapper portalrecall #
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so just "home", mapper portal home, to define home portal, then mark it as recall one
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: BOUNCERECALL FAILED: Portal #44 is not a recall portal. You must choose a mapper portal that uses either the recall or home commands for the bounce recall.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper portalrecall 44
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: PORTALRECALL: Recall flag added to portal 'home' to 'The Sanctuary'.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thats why i dont understand why
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: |* 67 | manorsea   | Crystal Hall         | 50124 | home                 |   1 |
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have "home" command as portal ?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i got it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: it was dubbed, i deleted the one without red
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thank you :D
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is there a technical reason that the three S&D plugins can't be combined into a single plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think those 3 scripts were just created to be independent
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: would that still be a 1.3 version, or would combining them be enough to call it 2.0 ?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Hello, how can the room id be retrieved?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use mush: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can also turn on showing ID on map
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: omg. derpindaisy was stuck at the paging prompt earlier.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Cool, this id is retrieved by the client, how?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Would Lasher get upset if the mushclient package defaulted pagesize to 0?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "blue text prompt spam" is clearly a pagesize issue
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just click on asterisk located left top corner "Map Configuration" then turn on "Show Room ID"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Romantic, via GMCP
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: Hey thats me i'm derpindaisy!
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: If anyone has the same problem a clean install fixed the issue for myself
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: is there a way to display the room id similar to objectid flags?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: invdata/invmon return objectid
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: can the room id be retrieved other than through gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: ty!
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can use GMCP in your own plugins though, check out gmcphelper
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You don't even need to create a plugin to use GMCP.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That too.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: \\\require 'gmcphelper' print(gmcp("room.info.num"))
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is \\\ disabled by default? It does nothing for me.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you only need a plugin to notice when gmcp information arrives
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is enabled by default in my packages, but it's a world file setting
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: script prefix does not default to \\
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I believe..
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mine is / I believe
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I didnt' look for it yet, but is there a spec with all the gmcp props that are available?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you ever had it disabled or different before using my package, then it will remain disabled or different
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yep, I just found it - mine is set to / also
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For those looking, it's found in control-shift-6
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, it's /// not \\\.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, it's \\\
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: My mistake. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but only if you originally got your world file from me
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, duh.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Romantic try http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: thanks Ayasinda, also this: https://www.gammon.com.au/gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that is not for aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: is the information describing how GMCP works not accurate on that page? 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: irrelevant. Ayasinda was answering your question about available gmcp properties
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: you are a pointy one aren't you
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know what that means.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Romantic chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: sharp enough to cut glass
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling nudges Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hard enough to cut glass?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: never claimed to be the sharpest light bulb in the toolcase
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: you are all very very vewy smart
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can mushclient do animations?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I imagine one could draw and redraw a window rapidly
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, I'm running a tick timer clock that moves just like a real clock.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yes but when i tried, the animation updated only each time a line was sent by the mud. and got no solution here
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not my plugin, but I'm going to utilize it to combine with my Aardwolf clock.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Timers can redraw animations...
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Repaint-Buffer
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: call BroadcastPlugin (999, "repaint")
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I'm guess it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: Hi guys, how do I force Mcaffee to UNINSTALL, it automatically tries to reinstall itself and wont unplug..
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://www.wikihow.com/Uninstall-McAfee-Security-Center
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I'm already referring to it as McCrappy
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Remember when McAffee was THE anti-virus to have? And when Peter Norton was a god?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what happened?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Time passed, both sold out
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: their software got really bloated
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and mcaffee himself is a weirdo :)
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Kaspersky is pretty nice now
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: well to be fair most security folk are a little weird
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: The lua 'Send' command issues to server immediately or when the script completes?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is nod32 still ok?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nobody should use any antivirus other than microsoft's these days, and even that is a headache sometimes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Kaspersky is Russian! They're going to steal your FILEZ
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I should have cleaned the whole thing completely out when I bought it...the laptop that is, and dont bother telling me why thats important...I know...just didnt care :P lazy maybe
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: acually everybody should use Linux and run Windows in one-time-use VM
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Romantic: immediately
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I just use microsoft defender and haven't had any issues at all with it.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Trachx, riiiiiight that sounds super convenient
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: the antivirus that becomes a spider virus yeah gotta love those
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you know Kaspersky has been suspected of taking US secrets?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: security never is convenient
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: https://www.wired.com/story/kaspersky-russia-antivirus/  
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: most security is invasive...just ask the Bush and the Koch brothers :P
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thinking about putting linux on this laptop when I get a new one soonish.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: we ARE their entertainment
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I feel bad for anyone who needs me for entertainment. I am really boring
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are many doubst about that Kaspersky really steals your files or not, any antivir can steal your files, as that is super-app that has access to everything
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: off 5
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: with a *
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: tech *off 5
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now I wonder whether Minix in Intel's CPUs is accessible in any way - like after receiving magic packet it starts to communicate
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: does mush provide an interface to an os 'sleep' api?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: New firefox seems to be faster and less prone to slowing down / falling over and dying than it used to be
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'd rather it didn't do it at all, but I guess less is a start.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if bast's campaign miniwindow isn't showing itself, is there a command to make it do so?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HEAVYMETAL Geji Tech: cp check usually works for me
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kill the next mob and it appears.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mcp cp toggle
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh there we go
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I found the secret "mcp cp" subsettings
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does his cp window do?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It puts your campaign targets in a miniwindow.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just shows the list of campaign mobs
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's why people quickly reject the complaint about "having to type cp check all the time"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: is there a plugin that captures item info to a database?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Having an issue with bast spellup plugin... I can remove/add all spells but it incorrectly is listing some spells as being Not Learned despite being at 85%. Is there a way to manually change them Not Learned flag?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does 'bsp sadd <spell>' do it?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Try bsp slist?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it adds the spell but views it as not ready to cast despite being at 85%
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: bsp refresh?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: for example.... "You have not learned 'lightspeed', but it will be added anyway, it will not be cast until practiced"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Wait, no, slist doesn't do it.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Your Level   : 110                   Learned:  85% 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: the 1st is the message i get when using "bsp sa 259"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: and the 2nd was the showspell 259 info
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Try reinstalling the plugin then.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: tried to remove plugin, cancelled all spells, added plugin back and readded all spells... "You have not learned 'lightspeed', but it will be added anyway, it will not be cast until practiced
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: same issue remains...
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: whaat
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe 'bsp senable lightspeed'?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: is says enabled by lightspeed is still showing as not learned
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do \\\print(GetPluginVariable("aaaf0c555a44169e0f1d9674", "practo"))
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it comes back with 85
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: new router has solved all of the issues I was having with the old one. stupid Linksys.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what were your old router issues?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: not plugged in
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It was made by Linksys
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: linksys is cisco now they make good stuff also
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: on wifi, I'd lose connection to the internet, but not the router. I could run a ping to 192.168.1.1 with no issues, but randomly drop 8.8.8.8 while wired connections were fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they make decent commercial equipment, but their home stuff hasn't been top end for a long time
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I use SSH for work, so I'd get 10-20 minutes before I'd lose connection to it. I've had an SSH session connected for 8 hours on the new one.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: that may be a keepalive issue
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Keepalives? For ping?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have no idea, but no amount of tweaks would fix it, and more technical minded people than I were having similar issues. someone theorized it was the MU-MIMO system that Linksys uses, which apparently couldn't be disabled.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think the fact that your new router doesnt lose SSH while old one did rules out keepalive issue :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: some devices will automatically disconnect sessions if no activity for a certain amount of time
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's also, you know, the fact that pings are connectionless
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he was talking about SSH connection failure
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Zet: it wasn't that, all external connections would die for a period of time. sometimes for several minutes.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: SSH was just the example because it's really sensitive to even brief disconnections.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Endymion: He specifically said he could ping the router, but not 8.8.8.8.  Ping is connectionless.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh for christs sake, go back and read the comments again
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i have had ssh disconnects which we traced to different brands of router
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: but if you cant ping router thats different
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I always could ping the router
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I never lost connection to the router, but I would lose connection to the internet on wireless devices, but never wired devices.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: could you ping your router from your wireless device when having issue?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: weird
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: exactly :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what router did you get?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Netgear AC1750
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Was it that $90 one you were looking at?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: test
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Glad it works for you :)
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded thanks Birdbrain Metria heartily.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: zetkax, can you please explain to metria that you were referring to the SSH connection loss when referring to keepalive?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I was going to sell the Linksys but I don't think I could do that to someone
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: poor guy read ping and is stuck on it like rainman
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It'd work fine as a wired device
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: true
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: cheap switch
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did it have gigabit ethernet?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: also true, but I don't really have a need for a switch. old one had gigabit ethernet.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i was referring to disconnects during SSH sessions caused by routers that detect idle connections
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the SSH was just an example though, I'd lose connection to everything.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in .ssh/config you can add "ServerAliveInterval 600" to tell SSH to send something every 600 seconds to keep a connection alive
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and it'd be different devices at different times. phone wouldn't be able to load anything while the laptop was fine, be able to stream on the TV but the tablet would be fine, etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i knew exactly what you meant.  poor metria is so smart he couldnt figure it out
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I cant always be there to help metria
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You mean you were ignoring the problem and focusing on a nonexistent one?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Endymion, if you could diagnose your way out of a wet paper bag I'd die of heart failure
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think you ignored the 2nd of 2 comments and focused on it, regardless of application
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Because it was the RELEVANT one
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: also my timeout time on the SSH connection is set to 99999 seconds on the server, so no need for a keepalive
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: only one relevant to your comment, yes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: relevant to the problem at hand, dipstick
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i get it, you cant scroll back or use -h.  its ok
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: guys please kiss
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria slides his tongue over Endymion's body...
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded thanks Birdbrain Metria heartily.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is my netbios causing this problem
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: have you checked with Abelinc?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: not yet
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I need to rewire 3 server racks before I can report back to him
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is this, a Hooters restaurant?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not enough tits for that, Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's what I think of when someone says server racks
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not enough tits there, either :/
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ill never be able to look at a server racks the same way now
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyway. don't buy the Linksys EA7300. it's garbage.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i was thinking about getting a Google OnHub
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: "Supports 100+ connected devices, so everyone can get on at once" dayamn
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably not though
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wouldn't believe that, nope
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Google can't lie
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I am sure it supports that, but that is saying they will stay connected not that you can do anything with them connected
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Damn lawyers and their fine print
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: each Cisco AP post 802.11n supports 100+ clients as well, I wouldnt go there
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: buy the loudest mechanical keyboard that exists like TrEz
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: noooo
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I meant that for ft
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I ordered a mechanical keyboard but the switches have the word "silent" in them so I'm hopeful :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm actually really fond of the latest macbook pro 2nd gen butterfly switch keyboards
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it gets a lot of complaints, but I love it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Complaints about what?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mostly people don't like getting used to new things
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well the first thing that comes up for me on Google is an article saying, "The new MacBook keyboard is ruining my life"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it's the lowest energy keyboard I've ever used and it feels great to type on
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: all of the complaints fall into one of two categories
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, one of three categories
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: how difficult is it to replace a keyboard on a random Windows laptop? mine needs replacing but I don't know if I want to go through the hassle.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That is VERY dependent on which laptop, some are easy to service, some are a nightmare
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: HP Z-book
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: either someone complains that the 2nd gen butterfly switch keyboard is too loud and goes clickyclacketyclack, which is true but only relative to the 1st gen which had a bad feel
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or they complain that it is hard to type on, which is definitely not true at all and a sure sign that the person us used to pressing the keys way too hard
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or they complain that the mechanism is too susceptible to interference from dust particles, which might be true but hasn't happened to us yet
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Regular dust, or like cheeto dust?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: teehee
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know because I've only read about it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I was scared for a long time about getting one for my wife because of all the moaning about the keyboard, but actually typing on it is kind of a dream
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's just hard for people to stop mashing hard on their keys
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Reviews are getting harder to rely on. Seems like every product you can think of, you'll be able to find at least a handful of reviews saying it gave the reviewer cancer or ate their dog or something.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which they should try to do anyway because that's how you get RSI
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd say that typing on a 2017 macbook pro is about as nice as typing on my old thinkpad T43 was. better or worse is hard to say because it's been so long since I had it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I need a new laptop
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's certainly nicer than my X1 Carbon
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: hi .. I am using the aardwolf mushclient. Is there a way to develop triggers to detect events from the comms channel window?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not with a trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what would you like to do?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: It appears that triggers only detect events going to the main channel window. not the comms channel window.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you describe what you'd like to do, maybe I can help
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Stuff going to the comms log is coming via GMCP, which you can't trigger on.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: I would like to detect whenever someone auction something, automatically bid the id to look at the details of the item.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for that you need a plugin that watches for comm.channel messages from gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have instructions
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP#gmcp-how-to
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you scroll down a bit from there you'll get to https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP#getting-notified-when-new-gmcp-data-arrives
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'll want to look for text == "comm.channel" and then look at gmcp("comm.channel.chan") to see if it's "auction"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wouldn't it be easier for someone not familiar with it, to just trigger off of the output showing an item was auctioned?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type "gmcpdebug 1" to watch gmcp messages coming in. it will help
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you like making triggers. I just prefer gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok metria confused me saying it wasnt possible because its GMCP, but everything in the comm window would have regular output - even if its not shown in output
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it won't have regular output if you don't echo
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if a channel is only captured to the communication log and not echoed to main output, then you definitely can't trigger on it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: basically "everything in the comm window would have regular output - even if its not shown in output"  is wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: at one point it was correct!
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but not anymore
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: muahahaha
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the most best scenario would be adding gmcp triggering to MUSHclient, but it currently can't do that because GMCP support is only added by a plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that would be really cool
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: feel free to suggest it on the forum I guess
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd even dust off my mushclient forum login to agree!
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, once you get past the initial XML overhead, working in plugins ends up being a lot easier than working in basic triggers
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and nothing stops you from having a plugin for "all_my_custom_gmcp_events"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm, the comm window plugin prevents it from being shown, so that's a pretty tricky way to be correct since you're preventing it from being triggered right?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: sure if you speak regex!
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: I mean...sort of wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i just disabled comm window and i can trigger off of Tech output.. but when its enabled and not echo'ed i cannot :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: one of the plugins, I forget which, activates gmcp-only channel mode
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: so they really only come across over gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: interesting, so that plugin does the {tech} blah blah then i guess.  never realized it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing adds tags back in
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because tags are actually pretty hard for people to deal with in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if you disable the communication log window, then the chat echo window has hiding disabled
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so it will automatically unhide things for you because I'm only 80% stupid
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: :)
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i am a victim of technology, sorry :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is actually one of the bits I've suddenly discovered I have to fix in my complete log window rewrite
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What is?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: apparenty I don't unhide the non-channel stuff if you disable the comm log
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: my gossip channel doesn't show up on my main window, only on comm log window.  other channels don't do that.  how do i toggle the gossip channel to show in main window, and then off again like it is now?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you, e.g. capture but don't echo INFO:, then disabling the comm log might not unhide INFOs
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means then you don't see them anywhere
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Right-click the comm log for options, Negader
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: right click then?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Echo Channels in main Window -> Custom
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thank you i see now.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: those options are going to get a little weirder in the next version of the log window
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: sorry ... was losing signal here and there as I am traveling and hopping from different wireless to another. 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: managed to find out the following. 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCP-only-Channels
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yep yep yep
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: It provided reasons for not being able to trigger outside on the main window.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: saving on needless bandwidth and CPU cycles I guess.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, the reason is kinda not important
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I read 'saving on needles' and totally started thinking something else lol
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: well you got black on balckie
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: What is the command to reset the location of the S&D window?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Does that work on S&D? I didn't think it did.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: god i hate to agree with metria
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: xset reset <something>
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea thats it
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Negader Got it.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what does he get?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it's in ww help
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk a prize of some sort? ill give hiim a 3x incomplete heal for his efforts
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just 1?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: what you think im made of incomplete heals?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: enchanters should be
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oracles*
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh you potion
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you should scroll
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nobody buys scrolls :(
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Scroll success is dependent on your scrolls skill, where potions just work.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i need to wait until people are doing an epic and then hit them up to buy 100 or so 3x scrolls
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: enchanters get a scroll bonus, genius
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: metria meant recite endy
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: your recite skill matters a lot
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: whereas pots you quaff and its just based on wis
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if you have a string containing "text", how do you use string.gsub to remove everything *except* "text" from that string?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this doesn't quite work:  string.gsub("text,abc,def", "[^text]+", "") 
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example you have "powerful amulet of nothing" and your thext is "nothing", so after execution you want to get "nothing" ?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: because it is trying to match the letters in "text" as if I were specifying a range
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is not enough for you to check that string contains text ?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: don't know yet
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk but gsub cant be used in that way
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well wait... its a regexp
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this doesn't quite work:  string.gsub("text,abc,def", "(?:^text)", "") 
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: doh
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that would return ,abc,def
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I hit enter by accident
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: was a mischan
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: what is it you want to not-match exactly? like give us an example string
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: afaik there isn't really a good way to have regexp match everything except a string
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well there are negative lookaheads but you probaby almost always want something else
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I ended up using string.match instead
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that picks out just the pattern I want and discards the rest :)
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm, ok
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: guh, having not much luck with getting info from mapper sql db
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can't figure this out.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: What SQL query would I need to select all pk rooms in the current area?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, that was a nice two hours for absolutely nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there info that room is PK (what table/field) ?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: rooms table, info column
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: heh, i think it even strips pk from the room name
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: select * from rooms where area = "icefall" and info = "pk"
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah there it is
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the info column isn't just "pk" though, it can be things lik pk,maze,shop
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if the room has all three of those flags
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: select * from rooms where area = "icefall" and info like "%pk%"
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: now we just need to replace "icefall" with the current area
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess that was statement not a question :P
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: maybe something like string.format("SELECT * FROM rooms WHERE area = %s AND info LIKE '%pk%'", current_area)
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that should work fine as line as current_area is always the name of an actual area in the database
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: all the names are in: speedwalk keyword
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: bagger has the keym he is also a shopkeeper
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: woot! I got it to pull the info I want, finally
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganksta Toneloc Tech: looking for a good free anti-virus software, any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I use Avast.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganksta Toneloc Tech: just saw an add for avast, maybe ill look into it
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganksta Toneloc Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would mushclient suddenly start to fail to index 'wait' ?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: "attempt to index global 'wait' (a function value)
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: makes no sense, I didn't touch anything involving that....
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would it suddenly start bombing with that message?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't index wait
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't tell me what to do!
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sure we can. We can always tell you what to do. It's just not on us if you choose to follow it or not.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc tells Crowley where he can go
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I choose not to go there.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley wins.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You point at Don't go there!.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nice try! I'm going there anyw... ARRRRRRRRRRGH!!!
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: so i have the help mini window plugin and suddenly it gave an error and now scrolls saying help_redirect not found or previous error, making the game unplayable, can any please help?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/issues/15
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a way to turn on and off a trigger easily in mush besides having to open it up and enable/disable it?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: EnableTrigger("name", true|false)
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: make an alias to do it
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Write an alias to enable/disable it.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is the name the "send" command?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i mean the trigger command?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: whatever you have named the trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i just type in the reateated success message.  so that would be the name
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: or is it the "group name"  
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: google mushclient and TriggerAlias
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but otherwise the name is the label name
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lable: is the field its called
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunkle Fetard Tech: brand new washing machine, didn't drain out the water.. anddddd. GO!
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you did read the manual for first time use?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunkle Fetard Tech: Well it wasn't exactly the first use. I put maybe 3 or 4 other loads through it and it was fine. 
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunkle Fetard Tech: I suppose not draining the water is better than flooding the basement, but still a but of a nuisance. 
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does the pump to empty it come on before the spin starts?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunkle Fetard Tech: hmm. great question, I'll have to observe it closely next time I run it. I had put the offending load in before bed and woke up to a soaking mess of towels. 
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: oh i've had towels just not drain correctly because they're so heavy
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Anyone using mush on different machines and sharing the world state files between the machines?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: how is that working out for you if you are doing so?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that sounds dangerous hehe
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you mean like running it off a network location? or just carrying mush around with you?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: yeah, I'd put them on dropbox
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if both were running at the same time it could be problematic if they are both reading/writing the file without knowing what the other is changing
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I'm thinking of putting ./world in source control, minus state, at least that could keep things in sync
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: but if you back up your file you could surely try it
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: well, muds will log you out if log from one client if you log in from another one, but to your point, there could be delay between the file sycns which could lead to bad things.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I run the same mush install out of dropbox on different systems.  I can even run it in wine on my main system and natively in windows in another system (although I need to tweak the script relative path if I switch to windows).  No issues for me :)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah I think it should work fine as long as you're not using them concurrently
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Same setup here
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: anyone know why there is an _no_visuals.mcl in the ./worlds folder?  
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: VI players
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Visually impaired players
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: brilliant! tx
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i get my map to come back up, the one that is through mapper?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just gone dark all the sudden like im not logged in
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: mapper show
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: could you possibly be in a room that can't show the map (like a very dark room?)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: great i have some sort of mapper problem, its not loading right.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: On tree page 17 cell 19: Rowid 2981 out of order"
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I'm wondering, does the mapper offer ways to query for rooms by names or description?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: by room names, yes. mapper help searching
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: hmm, I wish I could merge mapper databases
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: realizing they are diverging from machine to machine quite badly now!
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: have you tried a cloud-based setup such as dropbox or google drive?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: not yet, I am worried of possible corruption.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: is the mapper using sqlite or some other format?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i access it through sqlite
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: where is that file?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: sqlite3
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: no, the mapper db!
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Romantic, good point about corruption - idk the answer. But you are asking in the right channel, someone has to have a setup to share across computers
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: it's in the door of the mushclient folder
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its called Aardwolf.db in the main mush dir
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: s/door/root
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: is there a spec describing the schema used?  
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: other than .schema?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: yeah, what's segment and segdir for?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: not sure, might have been things Fiendish added for searching faster?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Perchance, has anyone written a mapper db merge script?  Seems feasable
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Saw my name. What's the question?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Romantic is looking for a good way to merge map db's
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: or you could, you know, walk around and explore.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I wouldn't want to have to explore everything twice *smile*
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so do it only once
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I'd still endup with two distinct db
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is the scenario we're talking about?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Depending where I am, I have different machines. I have 2 different mapper dbs that are getting quite apart from each other.  I'm looking if I can merge them after the fact.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: imo I'd pick the one that's more complete and go with Zhalut's suggestion of using a Cloud service to keep them consistent instead of trying to merge them
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Can the location of the mapper db be configured to somewhere else?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: for that option to be considered, I would want to only sync the db file, not the entire mush tree.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you can sync just one file with dropbox. idk about corruption or other services
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: why not sync the entire folder though?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Ignoring potential corruption, that would mean manually moving back and forth the file.  
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: nods. cloud services store version histories so you can restore a backup if something happens
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I've thought of that Raded, the issue is I wouldn't want to have per machine settings synched.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i do know dropbox doesnt like filenames that start with periods.  .whateverfilename . that would cause an issue
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Fiendish: are there any design decisions witht he mapper db that would prevent a merge script to be written?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: cloud service will have backups and there are many backups in the main/db_backups
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: In that case, store the mapper db in the cloud (e.g., dropbox) and use a symlink in your mush installation to point to it.  I did that for several months without any trouble.  Now I just do the whole mush folder to keep things simpler though.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: symlink could work.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: for different machine settings, you could have different world files, or is there something else you are looking to accomplish?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define "merge script"
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Add all mapper information in A that isn't in B to B.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: That would prevent it?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Not any that would prevent it. Probably a lot of things would make the result very noisy though.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You'd have to specify either some decision criteria for choosing which side to accept in a conflict
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: re
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: er
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: either some fixed decision criteria or ask the user about each one
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: otherwise you could have a bunch of bad exits
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Yeah, I agree on conflict.  Some conflicts are less important to me (like notes) but some might be trickier, like exits? or room flags?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one second
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: isn't it safe to assume that both tables would be accurate, just one with less entries?  they are populated the same way
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or not less entries, but missing entries vs each other
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: balls. the sqlitemanager firefox extension no longer works in new firefox
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that was my favorite tool for browsing the db
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: Is the firefox source available?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: also curious, my db has 15k rooms but I visited no more than 7k
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: I can't remember if the exit table contains timestamp information or not
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i started using sqlitestudio
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: speaking of which, i want to start using new firefox i think
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sounds neat
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It comes with some areas already
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the map comes with continents and some newbie areas preloaded
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which in retrospect might be a mistake
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but some mistakes aren't easily fixed
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no timestamp
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Someone mentioned sqlitebrowser.org as a alternative to missing extension (not me, just mentioned in channel, not vetted it)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dir, from, to, level
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: mistake from a gameplay perspective? why explore the continents?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: would need rooms table also
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: funny you ask about that timestamp, seeing as how that was what was what s&d was using as "start room" previously :p
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: How big is the Aardwolf.db?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: yeah but those timestamps aren't used by the mapper :p
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mine is just uder 14MB
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: lol, i can make that just under 2MB, using my very own compression utility.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it would be fairly easy for one to use sqlitebrowser to 'merge' their databases (one off), or to write a python or lua routine to do it
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: can _lookup_* tables be reconstructed from the rooms table? 
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Romantic: I can think of no great reason to not make people populate _every_ room for themselves
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Obviously everyone should have backups, and not having backups leads to catastrophic loss, which is unfortunate and ideally prevented.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I agree with that. Or have in game mechanics to acquire 'maps'
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: What, you mean like completing a goal?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that would be interesting
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: yea, complete the academy, get aylor map
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it could be worth suggesting, though I'm not sure that it ends up changing much aside from the experience
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I tend to think of goals as  things that probably lead to filling out the map anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Depends what the game designers want the newbie experience to be.  
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and what about people using clients that can't run mapping systems? what do they get instead?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shindo: A punch in the teeth!
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: good point, maybe just a bonus.  Anyway, just riffing
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: What does rooms_lookup_content track
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where do you see it
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: aardwolf db
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: There is no mapper client side 'explored' flag, or am I not finding it?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: what does ignore_exits_mismatch mean in the mapper db
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it wont overwrite your cexits with mud exits
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its an option if you right click a room on mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: what do we mean by 'cexit'? 
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: custom exit
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ignore exits mismatch is useful for certain rather infrequent problems
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like displaying through instant teleportation rooms
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regarding an 'explored flag' for the mapper, the mapper considers the 'explored flag' to be defined as "if room exists in database, room is considered explored"...other than what ships with the aardMUSH packages already there, there's no reason for the mapper to know/care about explored, only about "do I know about it"
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Makes sense Abelinc. I'm just considering that there are already 15k rooms prepulated in it that I haven't personally visited ;)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's nearly all continents
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can always purge those areas from the database
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, explore them by going east 30-60 times, south once, west 30-60 times, etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but watch for area entrances in the minimap as you go
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: is mapper.lua the file that is powering the mapper window in the mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's got mapper "engine guts", but not the "window" bits
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: greetings, abelinc
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aardmapper.lua
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I hadn't noticed the subtle name difference
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: greetings Pleiades :-)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: a ah 'heavily modified by Fiendish'
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Are there instructions somewhere for migrating Mushclient to a new computer?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1) quit MUSHclient. (2) copy the entire folder. (3) use on the new computer
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Thank you:)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc, did you just kill my desktop?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it was Abelinc in the Bathroom with the Wrench
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is there a way to use NotePad++ to count the instances of a phrase in a large text file?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Search?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It'll tell you how many instances it's found...
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oh I'm dumb, I didn't see the count button.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure you can do Count
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: disregard me.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish is snog from here.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: test
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did it work?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Redoing the comm log?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: how do i get the blowtorch plugin ?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: which blowtorch plugin are you looking for?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you are already running the latest blowtorch version do a google search for blowtorch plugins and find the dablock or maybe it is blockda repository and down load from there
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: github.com/blockda
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: Hey guys is there a way to use the lua wait to wait for a variable to be filled ?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Anyone on mush with alot of play time willing to do me a huge favor?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Well, its a small favor..  But its a favor :)
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Okay, I opened mush from my dropbox on a diff computer. Everything is different. It's like a fresh install
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Also, contrary to the info from aard's website, aardwolf.org is not 66.228.127.34
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: describe the procedure you followed to put it in dropbox?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is the one in dropbox the one you typically use? or is it a copy?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Shouldn't matter - I used this on other computers, worked as expected
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Same dropbox
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so it's the one you typically use just from a different computer
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Nod
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I see now
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: noob mistake
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Dropbox is still downloading some preference file
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uh oh
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: be careful
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: See you in a bit :p
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait wait
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Wha
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: be warned that this is how people sometimes lose data
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if MUSHclient saves the bad state on top of the good one, then the good one will be overwritten on your other computer too
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: How do I quit without saving
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because dropbox will transmit the new (old) state
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Copy the current dropbox folder to a new one maybe just in case?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I'm not 100% certain exactly when saves happen... but at least press Alt+1 and uncheck Save Automatically if it's checked
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: via dropbox I mean, not your machine
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What I will do is download the unfinished dropbox downloads from the website, then store those
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think dropbox has a history archive, so if something bad happens you might be able to just grab old versions
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but just good to be aware that this kind of problem happens sometimes with dropbox when users rapidly switch computers
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah, noob mistake heh
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Codex whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Interesting
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: There's a copy of the prefs file, says it's conflicted
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I will store both somewhere, just in case
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Okay, trying stuff out. Wish me luck!
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good luck!
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Did not do a single thing, re-opened mush. Back to my prefs (:
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: crisis averted
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo flails his arms about wildly.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good to hear!
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: SED drives usually require controller with SED support or at least BIOS with SATA passwords,  are there any drives with some kind of BIOS/boot loader that prompts for  SED password
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so... i dont get it... why are window shade motors so goddamn expensive?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: niche product
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only a person with money to burn buys a window shade motor
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: sound is out if sync on html5 player, has anybody had issues like that
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: win 10
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: on my external dac it's ok
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: changed drivers, reset drivers, disabled excluse app control
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: if i am trying to input an EnableTrigger into a plugin how would i do it?  I have an alias set up for the plugin that works perfect, i have it set to send to "script" but i want to buiild it into a plugin im trying
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any suggestions
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't understand the question
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kristoff Tech: is there a way to reset mushclients windows to default?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kristoff Tech: without reinstalling?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: aardreset (or resetaard, I never remember which order it's in)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone kow how to highlight a single word in MUSH? For example, highlight just my name anywhere it appears.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: hi, i've installed the aardwolf mush client and the main window is transparent with the aardwolf logo on background, is it possible to turn the window opaque? i want black background
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: does anyone have the trigger messages for double exp handy?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: Must I get 7 inch tab or 5.5 phone for mudding? the phone got 5200ah battery and the tab 2800
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: how do i capture lines in blowtorh for trigger related usage?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: there should be a menu with alias / trigger etc. you build triggers there
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for lines that never change you just put the text in the phrase part then select the wsy blowtorch shoukd respond
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for the latest blowtorch version there are pluins available at github.com/blockda
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: ty vm
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: also look at bt.happygoatstudios.com for how to do button groups and other stuff to customise blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: Must I get 7 inch tab or 5.5 phone for mudding? the phone got 5200ah battery and the tab 2800
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Anyone using Durel's dinv plugin, got a question about managing equipment sets and containers
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I might be able to help :)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You were AFK, heh, ok so I have a 1 set, 41 set, 171 set in different containers
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: When I switch to the 41 via dinv set wear, it's leaving the level 1 items in my inventory, would like them to go to a container, possible?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It will remember the last container an item was in.  If you put the level 1 items into a container, the next time it is done with them, it will put them back where it got them.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If it doesn't know where an item goes, it leaves it in main inventory
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ok, nice, followup question, how can I put items of a level 1 in my inventory that are wearables into a container, I'm not getting the right query to avoid worn items and stuff like scrabble
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could do something like "dinv put 2.bag type armor || type weapon"
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oops, forgot the "level 1" clause
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: dinv put 2.bag level 1 type armor || level 1 type weapon
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: that will take items that I'm wearing through, correct?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I only want the ones in my main inventory
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, that will match everything.  Hmm, let me think about how to specify just in main inventory
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't believe I have a flag to specify a location as main inventory.  I should add that :)  It's now on the wishlist.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It wouldn't be necessary after I put the items in the containers like you said, but I'm first setting it up, so if I switch from 1 -> 41 set, I'll have some level 1 items still equiped like aard items, and a bunch in inventory
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: In the meantime, you could just put everything into whatever containers you want and then use "dinv set ..." to pull out what you want
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Nods, will do, thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Great plugin!
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Excellent.  Thanks for the feedback :)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hey all
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: I have a file on my tab, it is 4.4gig, when i plug it into my pc it shows as 384 mb, copying it to oc still shows 384 mb on pc, any solution?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: copying it to what?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: pc
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what kind of file is it?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: iso
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's probably not fully downloaded
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: browser said it was done and it is viewed as downloaded by my dowloads tab
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Galaxy tab's filesystem is FAT32, maximum file size is 4GB, so the file is likely corrupted and incomplete.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: FAT32 file size limit is 2GB
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dillon frowns sadly, looks around and goes 'meh..'
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Ah, you're right, I'm thinking of exFat
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: heh, thanks guys now i know for next time
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: fat32->2GB, exFat->4GB
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: so even if it views as 4.4g on my tab, it is corrupt?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Most likely.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Is it an ISO of a DVD?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: If it successfully wrote it, it may just be unable to read it back.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: windows 10 iso
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: But likely it's not a good file.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: downloaded from the windows site
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: If the TAB is ineed FAT32, then ya you can't copy it there without splitting it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how about bluetooth?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: In Mushclient got a mapper message "failed integrity check"...restore a know good database backup immediately.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: where do I find such a thing?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCP-driven-world-mapper#restoring-from-a-database-backup-after-corruption
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: experiencing some computer trouble lately?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: new computer
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you just recently copy your database file over?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: copied everything over, and it seemed fine
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you quit mushclient before copying?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I'm pretty sure I did.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: But in all my enthusiasm, it is possible I forgot to do that.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Your instructions look easy to follow for restoring:) Will try that.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: re restoring mapper database:  I restored most recent aardwolf.db without success, then went back and restore the next one (older) without success. Any other suggestion?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what happened?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I get the same message. FAILED INTEGRITY CHECK
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try rebooting. if the files work on your old computer, then it sounds like there's something wrong on the new one
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It's been fine for two days now (the new computer).
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: but I'll do that
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure, except that sqlite can't validate any of the dbs
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kylia: also, if you're not using the latest version of the aardwolf mushclient package, you can try updating. After r1830 I made integrity checking more thorough.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: There a command to list all mini-windows?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sort of
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I can't find Bast GQ window, even if I'm on a GQ, and since it squelches the gq check results, it's kind of a pain ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: CP works fine
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=WindowList
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is there an 'mgq gq show' like there is for mcp?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: ya
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mgq GQ show, then mgq GQ front should show it somewhere, otherwise, you can do mgq GQ reset
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: only when on a GQ?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know I have to use mcp cp show after requesting a campaign from Kaija's manor campaign giver
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Daak: probably, been so long since I touched that plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts Bast.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Just reset it, did show/front and got no window.. but I'm not a GQ so we'll see I guess
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use the miniwin_events plugin, it shows quests, cps, and gqs in the same window
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Well, my problem is that the StatMon includes xBroadcast_GQ
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Which was eatting my 'gq check'
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I'll try miniwin_events and see how that goes, thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I need to fix all those broadcast plugins to only enable the triggers when the plugin sends a command, but, I also want to rewrite all of bastmush, because I did some pretty dumb things and overcomplicated a bunch of stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just haven't found the drive to do it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I hear ya
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: re database integrity.  Rebooted computer, and still getting the same message...FAILED INTEGRITY CHECK
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can also use miniwin_tabbar to manipulate windows
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kylia: I should have said this earlier, but if you're not using the latest version of the aardwolf mushclient package, you can try updating. After r1830 I made integrity checking more thorough and a newer version might be able to recover the failed db.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type checkversion if you want to see what you have
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: web address for the updater is in my finger
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: yes, I'm using r1825, which is not the most recent.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah. see if the updated version is able to recover the file. there are some kinds of integrity failures that are recoverable, but 1825 didn't try to recover them yet
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: re mapper integrity...I've updated but MUSHclient mapper window is blank. How do I fix that?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define blank
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber gets a blank look on his face.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It doesn't have a map on it..just version info for MUSHclient mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded gets a blank look on his face.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you get a message about database integrity when you started mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: by what method did you update?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: DUH!  Yes, it flashed by!  A real mess...said it was Rebuilding indexes. Then a bunch of warnings re Aardwolf.mcl Tags not used.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Then asked for password, then connected anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: show me everything it said
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I'll paste it to a note
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: hmm that didn't work out so well...
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's start by trying to answer the question I asked before
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how exactly did you update?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you update with the installer then you shouldn't be getting any tags error messages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I put some of the mess in a note...but had too many long lines.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you use the installer or no?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I used the zipfile
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Because that's what it said to do.  Then I unzipped, copied over .db etc and .mcl.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's what what said to do?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: The link for updating mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: must have been following manual upgrade
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which link?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/unzip_upgrading.html
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, but why did you go there?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Because that's the first place I was directed to.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: by who?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Client updates at http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I did leave my old installation intact. Plus made an extra copy.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok. let's start clean then.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: that is, of the one that failed integrity check
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go to https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/ and get the installer
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: run the installer and point it at the old installation
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the page you linked doesn't make it clear that using the unzip method is far more headache
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it should
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now let's see if I can deduce what's going on with the mapper plugin from what you posted to me
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It says to point it at my old installation...is that the folder Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1825
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it could be. what's inside thta?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Some individual files and a number of folders including  worlds and aardwolfclientpackage-MUSH client
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is "aardwolfclientpackage-MUSH client" ?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: let me see...
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: folder MUSHclient, and a bunch of folders including worlds etc
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you have mushclient inside of mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It appears so! lol That's my one and only installation effort prior to today
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Maybe I should point the installer to the folder MUSHclient then?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also, while you're doing this, can you email or otherwise send me a copy of your db file? the error you're getting from it is a new one
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: When I installed to the folder MUSHclient, I couldn't start Mushclient...It said the file MUSHclient\mushclient_prefs.sqlite is read-only
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It isn't read-only in Properties
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you quit mushclient before installing?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I'm now using the next-to-last version, with the mapper window not populated
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: generally people don't have nearly this much trouble
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I'm thinking maybe I should at this point delete all mushclient stuff from this computer, and go recopy my old installation from the old computer.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: while you're doing that can you send me a copy of your database file? I'd like to check it for errors
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: aardwolf.db?  I now have a few of those.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's say the original one
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: okay..from the old computer, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: See you later...have a lot to delete here.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: trying to load a Bast plugin and getting an error, as below:
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: cannot open E:\aardwolf\MUSHclient\myplugins\luapath.lua: No such file or directory
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: what is this file of which it speaks ?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Normally all the Bast plugins would be in worlds\plugins\Bast folder
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no such folder on my system
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i do have worlds\plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: did you unzip his plugins to E:\aardwolf\MUSHclient\myplugins ?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: all of them, not just the one you wanted
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Some of his plugins require other ones
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i just copied from web the statmonitor.xml
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You'll need to get luapath.lua as well
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Think that's the only pre-req for StatMon
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok i'll try that
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok i'll try thatfinger daak
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: A map shows up whenever an area repops..is there a way to get rid of that?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: shows up where
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i don't think the MUD does that, it's gotta be a script doing it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: in my main window.  It was showing up every time I walked into a room, but I toggled automap, and that stopped.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it sounds like you have the "Also Show Map in Main Output" setting active in the overhead map window
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: omg don't turn off automap
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you're gonna want automap on...
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right-click on your ascii map miniwindow and deactivate Also Show Map in Main Output
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I mean granted, I know players that dislike the ASCII map and have it gagged, but having 'automap' off, means you'll never see the ascii map unless you type "map"
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Which also means your map window won't update
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I hid the ascii map ages ago..how do I find it again?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Like i said, some people don't like it. A bunch turned it off the second it was introduced
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I use the non-ascii map
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: I couldnt imagine life without it 0.o
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Some of us were on aard before it had it to begin with, it's a nostalgia/immersion thing
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: The ascii ones give way more information, I actually show both, heh
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can understand not wanting it blasting into your main output, but that's gagged by default with my miniwindow plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: The mapper map, which has boxes for rooms. That's what I use
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it only shows in main output if the player explicitly turns that on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: For some reason, some things in my Mushclient have reverted to what they were in the beginning in my version.  Tags on, for instance.  I fixed that.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tags HAVE to be on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some tags have to be on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The script that gags them failed, but a lot of the functionality won't work correctly without tags
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it depends on which plugins are active
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: not the ones with the {} on them
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: map being one of those, iirc
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: I still wish I knew why my coords wasnt not being gagged, but its not a big thing
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes, those are still used at times. Fiendish's MUSh version turns the tags it needs on, and gags away the tag itself
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Which tags weren't being gagged for you Kylia?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: deathavin: were you the one who mysteriously could use only some of the bigmap plugin commands?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Yeah which is still the case as well Fiendish lol
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you send me a .zip archive of your mushclient folder or something?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: tags like {rdesc}
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rdesc is used by the ascii map plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I got rid of that issue
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: the mapper uses that...
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: but I don't have to see it.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You got rid of it by turning off tags which is going to break a lot of things, which like you see now with the ascii map
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Breaking the expected behaviour of a plugin can have a cascading effect
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: which you also turned off ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I've never had tags like that visible on my main screen.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You're just hiding the breakages, putting on bandaids if you will, instead of fixing it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: tags shouldn't be visible if your plugins are working correctly
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Your issues are all still there, just now your scripts won't work right
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: what is the ltalk channel?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for leaders
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: If I could just get the ascii map visible again to stop it echoing to the main screen, that would be a big help.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: leader chat, clan leaders to clan leaders
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well at this point, because of the various things you've "fixed", who knows what else is broken to even know what's up with your map.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Those are things I "fixed" two years ago.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: And all my plugins have worked fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that only the ascii map plugin requests a map update on repop
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: and are still working fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and I'm also pretty sure that the ascii map plugin hides rdesc tags
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ascii map plugin is quite useful if you are in mazes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it definitely requests update on repop cause doors close
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes that's why it does it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: of course if we could request the map over gmcp then this wouldn't manifest as a problem
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: honestly almost all those coord tags could be converted over to gmcp messages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Only if I can get it as an array of gmcp emissions, and not newlines in a single emission :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: But I've never seen that map in my MAIN window..since 1 day after I installed Mushclient 2 or so years ago.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pwar: the coords thing is a telopt problem
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pwar: telopt 2 does "Bigmap + Coordinate tags" instead of having them be their own
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kylia: yeah, I bet it's because you disabled tags
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: turn your map tags back on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Kylia I will pastebin my current tags and you can compare to yours
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Just disabled asci mapper plugin, and reenabled it.  Now I see all the tags again, like {chan ch=tech}
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Kylia: https://pastebin.com/qTz3Y3mm
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you see channel tags then you aren't using an updated mushclient
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can compare to yours and ensure you have the same tags enabled I believe mine are all default for the aard client
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf mushclient package sets your session to gmcp-only channels mode
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means your install is messed up
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I don't see them normally with this version.  This is not a re-install.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is the old one?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: got it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you're on 1825 right now
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: yes  Now I typed tags off, but I still have the ascii map showing up when an area repops, and I can't find the minimap to select whatever option removes that.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: noone should ever type "tags off"
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: under pretty much any circumstance
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's basically guaranteed to cause a problem
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: How do I fix {chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech:  then?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you using the communication log plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: don't see a plugin with that name, and thus I've never had it.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the plugin name would be Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I see it. It's not enabled.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you disabled it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is the Aardwolf_Chat_Echo plugin loaded?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: No such plugin listed
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so what plugins _do_ you have loaded?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe if we know that, we can help get your tags in the right order
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right now it sounds like you can turn off channel tags
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: since you're not using either of the channel plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Ascii mapper, BigMap_Graphical, Chat_Capture_Window (disabled), GMCP_Mapper, Group_monitor, Health_Bars, Helper_Aliases, Main_Layout, New_Connection, Prompt_fixer, Statmon Tick_Timer, plus S&D related stuff, and minor other stuff I don't really use.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: channel plugins are quite convenient, maybe you should just reconsider turning them on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if they need to be on they'll be turned on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right now nothing is using them
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Those are turned on, except Chat_Capture_Window
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Now that I've been told I can't just type tags off, I need to know as well how to turn tags off.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so you have the ascii map plugin loaded, which means you need map tags on, but you can't find the miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags channels off
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags map on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the only way to find the ascii map miniwindow if you can't find it is with resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Okay, and now how to turn off {/rdesc}
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags roomdescs off
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only version of the ascii map plugin newer than what you have uses it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you update again it will be turned back on, but they won't be shown because you'll be using a plugin that masks them
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the rdesc problem is because you effectively downgraded
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's one of the things that temporary session tag settings is supposed to fix, but maybe that isn't working
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is important for me to find out
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: But I haven't downgraded. I deleted all the mess I made this morning, and just copied over my installation from my old computer, which was fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you downgraded from your previous failed upgrade
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, you didn't do anything wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though...if I'd asked you to quit and log back in instead of letting you turn off tags roomdescs, it's possible that they'd have gone away then too
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Well, I'll just put up with {/rdesc} and the graphic on repop.  At least the channel tags are fixed now:)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which would mean that temporary session tags were working after all and you just hadn't logged out
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Kylia: tags roomdesc off, didn't work?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: okay, logging out
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: tag roomdescs off, rather
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Okay, thanks for your help...I think everything's under control for now.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you find your ascii map?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I saw it, and hid it again!  I like the other map:)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where was it hidden?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you don't like it, why are you hiding it and not uninstalling it?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: god knows...I reset, and it appeared.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I was told you couldn't get rid of it.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can definitely get rid of it if you want
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It's okay...It's nicely tucked away.  If I ever have any need for it, I can get to it.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: until you forget where it is
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: does anyone have the text string for when million monster double exp hits?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: can always reset aard again:)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: something something another million mobs
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: thanks Fiendish :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Million double : Aardwolf rejoices in the death of another MILLION monsters.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ahh wow that's a helpful link thank you
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: sigh...how do I get rid of the tag from {tell}You tell 
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags tells off
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tags tells off
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: tags tells off
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish giggles.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I let you know when others crop up:)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: does anyone know the strings for when *you* go superhero loud? or have a log containing them you can link me?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Again: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think it's all on the Aardwiki, under General -> Mud Messages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I looked there couldn't find that one
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can find pretty much all the trigger messages you want there.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Under "double"
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: not the double message..
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's the same as when you see others. There's no separation.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's the same as others
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: read what I typed again
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: We did.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They're one and the same
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: YOUR message doesn't change. It's displayed to the MUD, not to each player.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Rex Daemon Crowley.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so there's not one message when you sh loud that says "You have gone sh"
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ie no way to distinguish your sh from others?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: and if you NEED to catch when it's yours, if (playerName == myName) do
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: the name is in the message
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: was hoping for a better way to do it than comparing playername
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Why?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, there is the message before the actual SH loud message. It's the confirmation one, but I can't remember what it is.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Multiple triggers vs single trigger with alternating code paths
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Something about you spending 500,000 gold and 1000 quest points, yadda yadda.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I don't want my trigger to depend on playername variable if possible
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: because I don't populate that variable :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: all I really wanted was a text log of someone going sh
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You don't have to populate the variable.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if (%1 == @myName) do mySuperheroFunction else otherSuperheroFunction done
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you guys are trying to solve problems I don't have heh
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can do if "%1" == gmcp("char.status.name")
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or even just a hard coded `if (%1 == "Pwar")
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, duh, yeah just get it out of gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: again all I've asked for is if anyone has a log showing the text when you go sh but thanks for all the solutions :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also: There's really no need for that, Pwar.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if you want a list of doubles, subscribe to the twitter bot :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: this has nothing to do with double
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you guys keep reaching and assuming all sorts of reasons for my doing this I really just want the text
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You'll never know everyone who superheroes anyways, if they go silent there is no notification
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I give up
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You wanted a way to differentiate between, say, my personal SH vs yours. We told you how to do it.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: no if you scroll up I asked for the text when you sh..
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then be clearer. We have answered what you asked.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you guys started playing jump to conclusions and trying to give me 500 ways to do something when I just wanted the text
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I must have said that 5 times :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And I told you the only one that I can remember is the confirmation text when you SH, but I can't remmeber what that is at the moment.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: is there any reason a player should get newest version of mushclient vs 4.93 ? I'm not having any roblems, just asking
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You should always get the latest, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fixes bugs, adds new features, etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: isn't there a website abelinc has with all the logs or something?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger me, baby
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did you finger him?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The logs won't have the SH message you're looking for, if that's what you're trying to find. I'm trying to find it, too, by the way, just for you. BUT! Abelinc logs everything... Abe, can you grep the SH confirmation message?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The one that says something like, "You spend 500,000 gold and 1000 quest points to superhero."
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that would be the most ideal message I could use too
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, sure I can grab that...gotta see when my alts last SHd :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, that's the one I told you about, but told you I couldn't remember what it was.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley grins evilly at you.  Hmmm.  Better keep your distance. 
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I know I'm sorry I was getting frustrated but I literally just wanted that text string and you guys were trying to solve it in other ways
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: We're IT. We make things harder than it should be 99% of the time. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Plus, your question was grossly misunderstood at the time. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I didn't get any message about being charged SH fees. The message that you probably want is: Congratulations! You are now a superhero!
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Congratulations! You are now a superhero! You receive [1
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: just found the same thing hehe
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: perfect thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the message has now been added to the MudMessages page on the wiki (http://abelinc.me/messages)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: there's a little more text after that describing the trains you get etc
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Congratulations! You are now a superhero! You receive 200 trains for superhero loud.[0
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, my last SH was in February, before that
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: 0h 10
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah cause hallowed stats are so good, if I rem my light and do eqsearch it has suggestion
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Heh, I could have sworn there was a confirmation message of how much you spend. Odd, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I'm getting a failed db integration upon opening mush. What's that about
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I restored the latest db backup, error is gone
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any reason why mush keeps freezing alot ? i keep getting not responding messages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Gonna need a lot more info than that to make any sort of educated guess
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: there is 0 reason to hide the volume slider in youtube. 0. not 1, not two. 0. yet they decided to hide it unles hovering over the icon. 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: hi. in mushclient, i'm trying to call a function in the "script" section of the alias window. so in the alias window script section i put "clear_targetEnemy()" to clear my target, but i get the message "the script subroutine must start with a letter...."
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: its not working
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: i guess a better question is. how do it call a subroutinetargetEnemy guard
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: heh. i meant to ask. how to do i call a function from my script file from an alias?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: When you minimize mushclient why do the toolbars at the top reposition themselves?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: 0h bast
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: anyone know why my mapper wouldnt be working?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i have GMCP mapper and GMCP handler installed
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: define not working
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i have the window for mushclient mapper but it just has text in it. Typing look doesnt make it turn on
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: typing mapper doesnt bring up the help
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: but i have the window
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: it's 'mapper help'
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: okay cool. So that works. But the mapper still isnt showing anything
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: move a room
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does "mapper thisroom" shows correct ID?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: it says i need to type look to initialize the mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: recall is 32418, 1s: 32419
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i think this started when i tried to use a mapper backup
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Are all your map tags on: "tags"
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: yes, my 3 map tags are on
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: disabled triggers / plugins ?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Game --> Configure --> Triggers, check whether they are enabled
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i dont have any disabled
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: they are enabled
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: it started when i moved an aardwolf.db file from my backups to my mushclient folder and renamed it from aardwolf.db.backup or whatever to just aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you think that was caused by backup - just reload plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I hope you moved it when mush was off
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: was the client open when you did that?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i have done that. Ive uninstalled them and reinstalled them completely
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i did. it wouldnt have let me move it otherwise
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: is it just GMCP mapper and GMCP handler?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: the only 2 mapper plugins, i mean
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: oh now im getting a plugin error
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check "mapper showroom 100" 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: that did something
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if that shows maps then there is something wrong with GMCP handler
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: for "tags" does, bottom two lines both say "on"?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: not for repop, but for scan, yes.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you upgraded mushclient with old S&D ?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: The last two lines, the NOTE one?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i dont know what you mean trachx
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: the last 2 lines in tags?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: date_added is used by S&D to find first room in area
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: is that where my error is?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it was removed in recent (rather older) version of mush
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Starling and get updated S&D from her 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i would prefer to use the S&D version i have, if its possible
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you need downgrade mush
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You don't see "Global tags option (tags on/off) is On." and "NOTE: GMCP session tags option is On." as the last two lines of "tags"?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i can use it for GQs
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe I am wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: ah yes, i see global tags option is on. I dont see the Note
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: that error code i sent to you for my mapper plugin makes absolutely no sense to me :/
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: oh okay
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: hey, i fixed it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What was it?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i had 2 winkle plugins, a mapper extender and a mob mapper. I uninstalled them and now it works
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems your database is corrupted
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: WinklwWinkle and Starling S&D aren't compatible together I don't think
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: my xrt isnt working though
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They're forked, but still similar enough that they step on each other
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: plugin (mapper) tries to do something with rooms table and expects that date_added field is there
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i would like to only use winkle's
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Starling's is the updated one
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but your database does not have that field (like upgraded one)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Winkle's is unmaintained, Starling took over with her fork
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: Yea. it cant do GQs though
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: any way to do a mashup so i can get hers to do GQs? :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so it seems like you have old mapper plugin with newer database version
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: is it an older mapper or just older winkle?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: S&D has nothing to do with that (at this stage)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you can combine the code yourself, sure
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: too old mapper for this database
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need either older database or add column to table
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or newer mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: yea now my mapper is completely black
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: but it worked on continents
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: super sigh.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that error is caused in function save_room_to_database
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: could be caused by new cexit at recall
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caleigh Tech: wouldn't more people be having the problem if that was it? 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: so. update my mapper?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, update mush
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: will winkle stop working when i do that>
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is a problem only if your S&D was customized
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have stock one getting Starling should be ok
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: its customized
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: hang on, disconnecting
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current MUSHclient/mapper with Winkle's S&D will NOT allow xrt to work at all
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have other database backups - you can try use older one - maybe it has correct database structure for your mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: holy crap super-long note for a clone of Bast's eqdb :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it does a little more
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need an older database...you need an older MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Abelinc: It's so much more than a clone of Bast's EQDB.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now he has database without date_added field 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And, it actually works better, in my experience.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: the database will always match the aardMUSH...you can put a 5-year-old database file into a new aardMUSH, and it'll be converted to the current schema (including no date_added field)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: For instance, it actually analyzes equipment based on scores you use for priorities, and wears the best equipment for those scores. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: How do I make Bast events miniwindow reset GQ's, it's not clearing it out if it ends
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: or if I don't take one, it stays there like one is available
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you have to echo info and global quests into the main window from the communication window, that window eats the events
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger goes, 'Nom nom nom'.  What's he eating?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, is that what some of the changes Fiendish was making a week or two ago were to help with?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't know, but I spent days troubleshooting my code and then in a eureka moment, check that, and there it was.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Abelinc: right, but what if you do: you get new version of mush, which converts database, then S&D stops working, you return to older Mush (which expects that there is date_added field which was dropped by new version of Mush)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: when you launch MUSHclient, it updates the database
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: right click the communication window, echo channels in main window, choose Global Quest and Info
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, right click the communication window, echo channels in main window, echo other info, choose Global Quest and Info
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I do echo them all already
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Abelinc: new aard package has updated database from X to Y, but Y does not work with S&D, so Granola returns to previous aard package but keeps his mapper database which now is version Y,  but old mush does not work with version Y which is too new for old version, that is Granola's problem
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Why does Y not work with S&D
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotcha...I knew all of that except for the "returns to previous aard package"...yeah, that'll work
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: because Y (new) has dropped date_added - used by S&D to determine first room in area
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bamboo: because S&D (from Winkle) doesn't work with aardMUSH newer than a few years old
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current S&Ds from Nokfah, the guy that keeps deleting, and Starling work fine...just not Winkle's
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Daak: are you echoing notes to the main window? Because that's the line the gquest plugin uses to determine the end of the gquest
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Who's the guy who keeps deleting?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You make it sound like Nokfah's the guy that keeps deleting.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but Granola's using the closed source Winkle "with GQ enhancement option"
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that dangling modifier was confusing at first :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc uses The Oxford Comma
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So do I! :p
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i typically do too
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But not with a dangling modifier :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i totally forgot what the oxford comma is :(
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: are my mapper portals and plugins saved in my aardwolf.db file?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Bast: Yes, it clears the GQ is I win. But if a GQ is available and I don't join, it stays as "GQ Available" forever, and if I join a GQ and don't win it, it says with my current progress
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: a comma after each item in a list.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's "one, two, three, <-that one and four
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: portals
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: plugins (what to load) are in *.mcl
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh yea i dont use the oxford comma then, seems extraneous
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some US people like to leave off that last comma in a list...Oxford doesn't
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it often clears up confusion, although in this case it introduced some
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i remember reading an article where someone got sued because of an oxford comma (or because of NOT an oxford comma)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: cant remember it though
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and I meant this guy:
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Original character Morphonious, TheDevil (forgot password) and Deathbolt (archived) were both alts of Psycola. Psycola renamed to Bloood, recreated on 2014-07-20, recreated again on 2014-10-27. Created another alt Lunk on 2015-06-23. New alt TheOracle created 2015-11-08. Alt Lunkinator created 2016-01-05, wrote a farewell note on 2016-02-23. Also has alts Mission and Stormblades. New farewell note on 2016-06-17 after being chanbanned. Created new character "Maybe" that same day, and still plays others. Yet another alt MasterYoda created 2016-08-07, created new alt Drokith on 2017-04-13.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: sigh...
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok i get it now
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 'sup Zarra?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i think thats where i got my s&d
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: just watching what you're saying lol damn
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Daak: what version of my plugins are you using?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast: is there a quick "checkversion"-like command for your stuff?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: r2100
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "plugins" will tell you in the version column
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's a pretty big output tho :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "bup help" I don't have a specific command to just show the version
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Bast: using r2100
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Daak: interesting, everything works for me when doing gquests, the next time you take a gquest, do a "bgq debug" and it will tell you what it's doing.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ok, will do.. is it possible to reset the GQ tab to blank without restarting?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: depends on which miniwin you are using. "plugins reload mev" for miniwin_events, or "plugins reload mgq" for miniwin_gq
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Using, events not, thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: is there any easy way to simulate a gmcp event?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you needing to trigger something with specific stats?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if by stats you mean json
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not even remotely close...
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: let me try to reword, can you simulate receipt of a gmcp event using a "fake" json string instead of the one received from the server
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: anyone know why my aardwolf.db files wont work? they keep breaking my mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not to my knowledge.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: None of the backups work, and i have a newer version that i had emailed to myself from a few months ago, and its not working either.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: becuase you use too new aardwolf.db with too old mapper plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Of course, you can pull the gmcp information with protocols gmcp <option>
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: I just got the brand new mapper plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: The question might be better put if you asked how to fix it, not asked why it happened.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: I downloaded aardwolf from the website and took the 2 mapper plugins from the new version
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: okay, well how do i fix it? :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not think you can just take 2 plugins from newer package, whether it works or not - it is just lottery
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: ah okay. I assumed they were just plugins, so i could do that
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: get sql editor and add column to database
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: where should i add it?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They are NOT meant to be peacemealed like that. Take all of one, and run with it. Mixing and matching is guaranteed to have unforseen side affects, and may also just not work at all
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that should work with your old mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: alright
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: download sqlitebrowser_200_b1_win.zip
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just bing it 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: yessss
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: My portals are back too.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: thanks so much for your help, everyone.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yay
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but what have you done to fix this?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: any way to refresh the overhead map mini-window without moving?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Type map?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I tried, but it doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: reload the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you mean doesn't seem to work. what are you expecting to happen?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: see other players move without moving
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are they moving?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: well, that's what makes it so hard to test. Was just wondering if there was another command to refresh it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: map is the command
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: and that should refresh the window, too?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: k thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my mouse suddenly seems to keep spazzing out (moving erratically) since i turned on my pc today... any idea what might cause that?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: something on the sensor?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is it optical?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Dirty sensor, or someone playing a prank? :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea optical, i just wiped the sensor, no difference
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you could try unplugging it and plugging it back in, sometimes usb has problems
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tried changing usb port too
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You using it on a highly reflective surface?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Maybe a short in the cord?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: .movemouse redryn -random
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: crap
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: slightly translucent map, but i've been using this surface for a few months now
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: try rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip to clean it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just tried that, still the same
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sensor looks clean enough
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: try a different mousepad maybe?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: even worse
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: debris inside the optical mouse
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an itty-bitty spider or fibre or lint perhaps -- gently shake the optical mouse
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't seem to be dirt related
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it moves even when i'm not touching the mouse
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: could be something in the mouse or the mouse might be dying
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that would be very annoying, going to try and reinstall drivers anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: no new recent usb additions?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with so many usb ports these days, some usb ports like to collect debris and dirt -- in humid weather, debris and dirt is conductive 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eh, i wonder if it could be a motherboard problem
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just try another mouse, if it works fine, you know.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: looks like an issue with the mouse
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: As I mentioned, maybe a short in the cord somewhere.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: another computer here erratically rebooted even when turned off -- then months later: blowdusted the insides, sprayed the usb ports with moisture remover lubticant, and computer wouldn't reboot at all -- then found the disk drive cable was not seated properly -- so reseated the cable, and the computer worked again 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh god, you still exist? Ugh.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You sprayed WD-40 in a USB port??
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's the problem
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is that something i can attempt to fix crowley?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: should have sprayed it in your ear instead
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not really, because it would mean the cord is damaged.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's just a guess, obviously, but you can check it, ultimately, by holding the end near the mouse as straight as possible and moving the mouse.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: first used a "fluid film" rust and corrosion protection spray - leaves minimal or no residue
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How can it protect if it's not leaving something behind?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If your USB ports are corroding, you have your PC in a really bad environment and you're gonna have issues no matter what
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: then used (shake before using or there be guck) Jig-a-Loo all round lubricant 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Take the PC out of the bathroom.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I use the water tank on my toilet to double as my case, it's water-cooled
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but then how will I use it while showering?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a few months ago, the humidity was so bad, the phone was crackling - required to replace the telephone wires inside the house, and clean the jacks extensively
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: after a few decades, cheap telephone wires act like charged batteries, jacks become corroded and or covered with dirt which partially shorts and causes lots of crackle
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I built an electric vehicle that runs solely on decades old phone wires.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley has driven it. It runs quite well.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You get that old ghostly ring every once in a while, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just take the handset out of the glove box, yell "HELLO? HELLO?" into it a few times, then keep driving.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 0.04 volt won't run much and the current is likely extremely low
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Bell phones lines use a DC current, and with high humidity, cheap telephone wires corrode slightly and become "charged" like a battery 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those USB connectors like to sprout rust in humidity
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a lot of the land-line phone crackle is caused (1) by resistances from corrosion and dirt covering the metal contacts at the jacks, and (2) by dirt short-circuiting in the jacks (10,000 ohms from conductive dirt is a enough of a short-circuit), and (3) perhaps by the "battery" effect (0.05 volts) from a little as several foot of telephone wire -- all going imtermittant crackle wild during high-humidity
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Xyliz, I'm concerned. Have you had a stroke?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think that ship has sailed
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I take the blame. I summoned Xyliz a few days ago
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you forgot to mention 4) another element in the circuit, such as a light fixure.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (4) being miles downwind from an industrial shop occasionally spewing hydrochloric acid fumes -- likely causes the USB connectors to sprout rust blobs
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you can get him to say his own name backwards, maybe he'll go back to the 5th dimension
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley cackles gleefully at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I can't believe he's still talking.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: leave him alone.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i used to keep muriatic acid (for cleaning scale) in the house -- then i noticed the copper metal pipes turning a deep bluegreen color from the leakage out of the stoppered bottle 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Gah, tech going off until it goes back to actual tech-talk and not gossip-talk.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well technically its tech-gossip so... still on topic
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: extremely difficult to stopper the halides and hydrogen halides - they like to leak out slowly and corrode things
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: corrode things like the exposed metal circuits in cheap dvd remotes
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so if you want your electronic equipment to go haywire or kaput, expose them to the halides and hydrogen halides (extremely small amounts long term exposure)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this last windows update has done something to my touchpad, re-enabled some of the annoying features maybe?  anyone else run into issues like this?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's always possible
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No, I use a mouse. Sorry.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the last debian update made my trackpoint basically unusable
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I noticed the same thing with the toachpad, but ASUS has a way to disable the touchpad if it detects a usb mouse interface.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, lots of computers have that as a BIOS option...for touchpads, I also usually install the manufacturer's drivers to have the utility to turn off touch-to-click and such
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i previously connected both a ps2 mouse and a usb mouse, and both a wireless keyboard with a wired keyboard -- both pairs worked simultaneously -- so a touchpad and a mouse are supposed to co-exist simultaneously
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are, unless you enable a feature which automatically disables them, which is a standard feature on laptops
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: don't suppose mush can run Lua and Python scripts at the same time, can it?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i think the script interpreter can be set to only one at a time
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but one of the two languages can only exist in plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins can use alternate languages
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Oh, so I can run Python and Lua plugins?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so MUSH itself would be set to Lua, but a plugin can be configured to python
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course you'll have to have python on the machine to use python plugins...lua comes with MUSH, but python doesn't
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: new is not mushclient's native language, just as python.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1215 Magna didn't quite get that sentence
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: me neither
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: mush has its own scripting language, the use of lua, or javascript, or other scripting languages are an extention.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: huh.  Mush is a 32-bit, not 64-bit application.  I guess I never bothered to check.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: what does the data bus size has to do with anything?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: or at least with the native mush language.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH has some of its own syntaxes, but it doesn't really have its own scripting language...but it ships with one, and can be used with a dozen others...
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well world.WindowCreate is native to mush and there are a whole lot of those around.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: those are just the API
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they don't cover the language part
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a syntax, not a scripting language...
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: WindowCreate (win, 0, 0, 200, 200, miniwin.pos_center_all, 0, ColourNameToRGB("white"))  -- create window
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how you USE world.WindowCreate depends on what language is selected
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's the Lua version of it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient includes the Lua interpreter and also supports other languages via the windows script host
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up all of the function helpfiles, and you'll see the helpfiles have a section on each of the languages, but none for "no language" or "MUSH language"
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, we must have our languages crossed. The API exposes the functionality and the syntax shows us how to express said functonality. That works just like a language to me.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I would call Lua the closest to MUSHclient's native language, since there is extra code in place to support it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the API doesn't expose the functionality without using one of those languages, though, Anaristos...unlike, say, zscript, which could be fully-functional without using other languages
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: In this context I would call "language" the thing that allows you to build logical constructs. looping, conditionals, arithmetic, etc, which MUSHclient does not build in
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: There's no MUSHclient way to loop. There's a Lua way, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or vbscript or whatever
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think you already covered it when you mentioned Windows Script Host. Lua is embedded, the rest is not.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then there's the MUSHclient API which are the set of functions used to tell MUSHclient to do things
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and there are two versions of the API: Lua's and WSH's
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: is there another place besides config/triggers to enable triggers in mushclient? suddenly none of my triggers are working
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are they actual triggers, or part of a plugin instead?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: triggers I've added
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: did a script crash?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: any orange error text?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And you're saying you have "Enable Triggers" checked in control-shift-8?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: so basicly a tablets lifespan is only as long as its batteries life?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: metria: yes, starling: no
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I can't think of any reason why triggers wouldn't fire given what you've described
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: restart mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I even quit and restarted mush, I must have done something but I don't know what. Thanks, I'll keep looking
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what was the last trigger/plugin you added?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't know if it matters, but is "Scripting Enabled" in shift-control-6?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: it was, I tried unchecking it and restarting, gonna check it and restart again
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: last trigger I added was while exploring partrixis maze, I added one to send 'exits' to the mud. I'v esince deleted that,though.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: haven't added any plugins in months
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, what was that triggering on? ^[ Exits?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: a mapper addnote that I had
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: doesnt matter i guess if you deleted it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I guess if you had a trigger that matched everything and didn't have 'keep evaluating' set would cause the behavior you're seeing
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did he verify his prompt ends in %c ?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats what i was thinking too metria, thats kind of what i was getting at
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: does that completely change the behavior of triggers?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I found it, evidently while setting up that trigger I accidentally created one with a solitary * in it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: lol noob
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yep, thatd do it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: phew thanks y'all
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria enthusiastically high-fives Cap'n Gus Grimvald!
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: yep, deleted that one, all is well again
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: gj
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I have an odd question....
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: 2 of my exwives apparently had my usb port card from my laptop...why? what can they do with such a thing?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: pcmcia card?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: usb3.0 54mm
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: express card....they came up on amazon at $2k but little info on what exactly it can do
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah pcmcia express card.. you put it in a laptop to expand it's hardware
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: functions similar to pci card in a pc
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: would it hold info on what I do with my laptop? or...any other type hacking ability
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: i mean...why would they have removed it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: nah it would just provide usb plugs
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: to use on another laptop maybe?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: they have pcmcia cards that do all sorts of stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: they can be used to add usb ports, wifi, ethernet card
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: weird...these beaches are weird
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: beaches love pcmcia cards
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: lol cool :P 
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: maybe I should duct tape it to a fly swatter and 
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok wtf am i doing wrong here... :(
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im trying to use OnPluginPacketReceived with a regex and it doesnt seem to be matching or rather... its always matching?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: local pattern = rex.new([=[^.+]=] .. prompt_char .. [=[$]=])
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: prompt char = ">"
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why on packet?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im trying to do a duplicate prompte omit basically
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: prompt*
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: packet doesnt start/stop at line breaks
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well thats a problem
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use regular trigger to gag duplicate prompts
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: can you just send me yours?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or tell me...
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mine is pretty complicated.  it matches p data, then modifies the trigger when it matches a prompt
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im not looking to try and explain it at this time :p
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea that explains nothing, my only question is how do you get it to omit only when its a duplicate?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use 2 triggers.. one checks p data and sets a vague trigger to match prompt..  that trigger sets another gag trigger to exact prompt
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i still dont see how that gags duplicate prompts
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: seems like itd gag all prompts
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 1st p data trigger sets the gag trigger to match prompt.  then gag sets it exactly to that prompt to gag it.  so 1st always re-sets gag while gag only gags specific
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: see this is why i didnt want to get into it.  i assure you it works perfectly for me.  however its part of a plugin im not going to share or disect
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well this might have all you need, depending on specific prompt that may or may not break the trigger.  looking at it now i'm not sure i could even describe how it works :p
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: https://codeshare.io/ay7q3b
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok, ill check it out
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok its empty. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: empty?  really?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok nm it took a few mins to load
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i left and came back, now i see it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: c detect
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so yeah, my plugin checks "p data" which starts the ball rolling
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wtf now it dissappeared again
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wth kind of site is this?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: someone is a peach
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyone with link can edit :p
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that is dumb
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i'll send you another in tell :p  gimme a minute
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: k
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Star Wars Tech: omg that was fun to watch...
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: was it?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not empty anymore
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: all i saw was a troll and one other person
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no its not
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but its also not lua
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: this stuff may have to go into aardquotes
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can't see comm.quest in Mush.  I can see it in Cmud.  What's going on?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: plugins catch and gag it in mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not sure
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so doubtful
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm just doing print(gmcp())
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh right, cmud displays gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm who gave me the gmcp output cmds before for mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm just doing print(gmcp("comm.quest"))
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: returns nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: blank line
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, i cant remember
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe you havent receive a comm.quest
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: comm.quest should come with q i right?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have, though
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just took a quest and am currently on that quest
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: turn on debug: gmcpdebug 1
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you have the gmcp helper plugin loaded right
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: id go 2
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well 1 only shows what you just received
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: %gcmp in cmud is a variable not a function. so #print %gmcp.group
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: comm.quest was received when quest was completed
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: print(gmcp("comm.quest")) still shows blank line
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you have to include "gmcphelper" to use gmcp(x.x)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: rather, require "gmcphelper"
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: print(gmcp("char")) shows a hash value, tprint(gmcp("char")) correctly shows the char table data
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: print does it right, tprint is just a formated print :)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: tprint is for tables
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I understand that.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont think you can call comm.quest the same way you can char.base for example
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and yes, I have "requir gmcphelper" in my script file
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it's gammon's function.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Plugins seem to receive the data just fine, I just can't access it from the command line or from any triggers/aliases in the main client proper
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im just saying tprint only works on tables
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and print wont work on tables
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok so i got comm.quest data on quest request and quest complete
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I got the data
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just can't access it from the command line
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: right because its not stored the way the tables are i think
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: makes sense, you need to do an onpluginbroadcast call, then set variables after that
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the function gmcp() should be able to get it though, right?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if i understand correctly
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gmcp() just calls what gmcphelper stores
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: probably not
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: channels arent stored i think, and comm.quest is a channel
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you need to look at the function in 'help gmcp'
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and the corresponding webpages
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I thought comm.quest was a submodule
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and do all your stuff from wuthin the function on that webpage
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i can attempt assistance although drunkenness > 0
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so what should I do?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what do you want to do is the question
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: be able to refernce that data from the main client
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just use the bast suite sheesh
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you need to make calls to onpluginbroadcast in a plugin and check if comm.quest before you can use the data
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: otherwise a) it wont be there and 2) mushclient wont know what you want to do with it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the command line, not a plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats a non-starter
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: command line doesnt have a listener
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what he said
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you need a plugin to check for a broadcast and then fill variables when it gets the comm.quest
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You're not listening.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need something to constantly process gmcp (gmcphelper) and something to listen for broadcasts of that data
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: they are called triggers
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gmcp(x.x) does not send anything to the mud.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If I do print(gmcp("char.status.state")) I get 3.  The data is there, I can get it from the command line.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: without a gmcp handler, you cannot trigger off of gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I understand, but the triggers are the listeners.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: only IF that gmcp value has been received within the last broadcast
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: right because that data is stored and you can call it.  comm.quest is not the same
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, capture comm.quest in a gcmp trigger with cmud.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if I do print(gmcp("char.comm.quest")) I get a blank line.  The data is not there.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: comm.quest is only sent when you quest request or quest complete and alos maybe if you quest info
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he's in mush now which is his problem
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: in fact I can just say comm.* and parcel out the stuff manually
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: But it didn't work while I was *on* the quest either!
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats what were trying to tell you
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cmud converts gmcp into output right, which can be triggered
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its only sent when you quest request or quest complete
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so he cannot trigger gmcp in mush, he needs an OnPluginBroadcast to catch comm.quest
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: Starling: did you read the webpage in help gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like cmud will output: {tell} Soandso tells you, 'wtf dude'
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but mush needs a broadcast to get that same data
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, there is a comm.channel stream
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well, the output needs it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but no handler to provide it to output i guess
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, it's displaying an empty string
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's...
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it took me a long time to be abe to use the OnPluginBroadcast for gmcp data, but im pretty sure ive igfured it out, at least somewhat
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: woah
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i can totally write a function right now, but that isnt what starling wants i dont think
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: also what is tprint? ;?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: print contents of table
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok kudos
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: would you like a function that tprints your quest table?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: tprint is in the lua folder of musch, so if you require "tprint" you can use it to print tables easily
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm a bit confused.  It should work when I take next quest, shouldn't it?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there are several useful files in there
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what should work, what do you have in your plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no because command line is not monitoring gmcp broadcast, or interpreting gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I even copied the function straight out of gmcphelper.lua and it still didn't work
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yeah, it still doesn't let me get the data, even though I took a quest
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I guess I don't understand why I can get one piece of gmcp info from the command line but not the other *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: because you dont have a call to OnPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i told you before i can write you a function, you can just paste it into a plugin and watch the output
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: then device what you want to do with it from there
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: decide*
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: where would I put this call to onpluginbroadcast?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: in a plugin, in the <[CDATA[
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: which is inside <script>
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do I access it from the command line?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you cant.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: That doesn't make sense.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: OnPluginBroadcast is a function
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: What does that have to do with any of this?  The gmcphelper.lua has the function gmcp in it, and it does a callplugin on the gmcp handler
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: a globaslly defined function within the API
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: because that wont do what you want it to do
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and thats what ive been trying to tell you this whole time
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if you want to get and use gmcp data you HAVE to use OnPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Then why can I print some gmcp data from the command line?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: why cant you print the gmcp data you want?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's perfectly straightforward in cmud, and except for comm.quest, straightforward in mush
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's what I've been asking!
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh because you dont have a call to UnPluginBroadcast?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and ive been giving you the answer, repeatedly.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I feel like we are not communicating effectively
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'll put up a tech note or something
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thanks anyway though
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: we are not.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: only because you refuse to listen
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i am more than willing to help you
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you just need to listen to what i have to say
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: do this: type gmcpdebug 2
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: when youre bored of getting the spam, and maybe after youve realized that the spam seems different
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: then maybe youll understand why what i am saying is true
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in cmud gmcp data is stored somewhere where you can just refer to it, in mush you need to have each plugin receive and remember when gmcp data is broadcast
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ive been preaching this for what seems like hours
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though i guess the question is why doesn't gmcp helper just do that for us 
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: because the data would still be changed at various times?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so what you want now may be different later?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i would have thought it's possible to have one gmcp plugin that keeps everything updated, and the gmcphelper helps to pull the most updated value from that central plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: instead of having the gmcp plugin broadcast, and having each plugin keep themselves updated
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok what if you are looking for a comm update, but you only check for it every 5 minutes? then you only get every 5th minute channel message
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: could be 20 messages within 5 minutes, or more
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but you only get the last one
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sometimes i only want to check something now and then
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: e.g. what room am i currently in
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but the current set up means the plugin will have to update info whenever i change rooms
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: as opposed to check what room am i in now
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: whenever gmcp info comes in*
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well for what starling wants, which is quest data. it only comes when you request a quest or complete a quest and maybe possibly when you quest info
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: can confirm: not when you 'quest info'
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i changed my MUSHc font - anyone know what the default font is?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: how can I create clone a world in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I mean plugins/settings/etc, not the name/server/port
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that was create/clone :)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: My S&D window is trapped under the top of my mushclient, and I need a hint how to move.  I've tried restaring mush and resetting winds, also disabling and re-enably S&D.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: I think it is something like xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: yeh! glad it worked, was not sure then
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: worked perfectly:)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Did you "send to back" in front of your mushclient main window?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: so, you lovely wonderful mushclient gurus, I don't think I'm using bouncerecall and bounceportal correctly. can someone explain what I need to do to get this set up? I'm so confused. lol
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It's all fixed now:)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it was moved upward probably out of window
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Starling and get updated S&D
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I haveher updated S&D.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What does S&D provider anyway? Starling's readme just explains what's new
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically turn you into cp/gq bot
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: That's allowed?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: help gqbot
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is not fully automated bot though
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: not really a gq bot... you still have to type gq check, then xrt the area, then hunt trick the mob you need, then go there, all manually.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: right, it's fixed, but did you send it to back while it was over your main window?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: would like to know how you lost your S&D window, is all
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is mushclient broken?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: asking for a friend
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: my blowtorch quits alot. my posersaver 
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: power saver says it shutsdown 30 times
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Bast, I got a debug of the end of the last GQ I did.. I won it, and still have "GQuest Available" in the miniwin_events, How should I send?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its for other players to catch up
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: There were no other players, it's not in extended
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Deak: you can win 3 gq each lvl, so it's normal to have 'GQ available' in your case
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Oh is that what it means
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: To me, I was taking it to mean "There's a GQ you can join in running right now", especially given it's RED background
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but what if it's a BLUE background?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I dont use bast gq miniwin, but that's how I interpret 'available' (in the cp one that's what it means...) IF it didnt understand your last gq ended it should show your last mob as if it was still to kill
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: anyway... not using it, so I could be wrong... both cp and quest miniwin are red when you can get one... that's, btw, the rewason I dont use the GQ one... dont add anything to my experience
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ya, hmm... Maybe the miniwin is different when one is available for joining. I'll have to check it when next one pops for me.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: For testing, is it possible for me to run a plugins functions via command line? Something like \\\plugin.function() or something?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: what plugin isnt working if my auto hunt isnt working, and if I have been to the area it doesnt pop up as a clickable room?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you have been to that area before but have you also been to that room before?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: to me it sounds like either you autohunt plugin or your mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yes, even autohunt from S&D isnt working
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ohh that thing. Sorry then.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: i have reinstalled all 3 packs
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Guess what?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I made a blue screen program in C++.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Any pixels that are blue in hue are deleted :)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: And its all in a small file, only 5.92 KB.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: That is, the source.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Compiled, it is 4.53 KB.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a public potion tracker that isn't from Masaki?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: anyone built their own pc before?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: motherboRd type chip matchez
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: so, windows queztion
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: do i really have to drop 100 on a new license?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: 50 at shops
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not if you already own it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if it fails to authenticate just call MS
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i have a win10 box i never use, can i just xfer that and does it have to be one i never use
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: I got it on kinguin pretty cheap, like $30
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: tell them you already had one but it wouldnt let you authenticate. you get 3 of those
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: doesnt matter. just call ms
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: cool, thanks crimz, does it matter, then, if 2 boxes same license are on the net at same time?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: no you can use the same licensing three time
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i didnt plan to install an optical drive, is it easy to install via usb?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: they will give you a tag cor both. and if they say well thats corporate still shouldnt bother it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: key should work on both computers
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: awesome thanks.  huilding a gaming pc :)  first build
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i7 7700k, 16gb tridentz ram, evo ssd, asus gaming z270 board, 1080 ti, just waiting for my cpu cooler to arrive
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: and hoping i dont screw it up somehow
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's very easy to install via USB.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Faster, too.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: cool thank you.  have win10 from factory pc, will have to figure out how to copy it to usb
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Download the Windows bootable media creator.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: cant wait to play 1080 at 144hz
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Aardwolf's gonna be fricking SWEET at 1080
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HEAVYMETAL Geji Tech: you can also try Rufus to make that bootable usb
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Rufus would require having the ISO
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impurifan )  anyone gamed greater than 144 hz?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: i have a couple 144hz benq's, <3 them
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i got an asus 144 hz monitor non gysnc 170 bucks.  but next step up to gsync or over 144hz is some dough
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: if your fps drops it can get ugly
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: hence the 1080 ti
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: with the high refresh rate
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i should be overkilling 1080 by a huge margin on most games
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: what are you using for air flow to keep that 1080 cool?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: on air big case 200mm ins
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: thats the biggest issue i see with custom builds
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: card burns out in a year
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: gaming trio x seemed to have best air profile
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i shouldnt need to oc for 1080!!
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: i always download this msi program to manually adjust onboard fan
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What games are you going to be playing?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: overwatch, pubg, whatever new shooters
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: csgo!
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: pleb
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: pubg squads is soooooo much better
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: feels like a ton of csgo players making the switch
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: shroud did, but the community is still solid
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: and the esports scene
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: ran into him not long ago
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: at higher elo hackers ruin pubg... medium elo is bliss
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: thing is some players have huge sound edge i dont get it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: but a 144hz monitor will be great for those games
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: friend of mine hears footsteps at 50m, im at 25
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: friend has wall hacks
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anonymous Anymouse :P
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: nah even some streamers have noticeabky better sound range
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: really shit optimization, no idea how to handle a smash global hit
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone know offhand which plugin uses the command xset?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: s&d
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: winkle
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ah, it tries to use the command but fails to work
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how can i get my S&D window back?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: xset reset gui, if it jumped off the top of the screen
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that is a bug and means your S&D is out of date, see the link in my whois/finger for the most recent version
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it might be xset gui reset
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you made a typo?  xset reset gui should work
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ww help says:  > xset reset gui  - Will reset the X, Y and Z position of the Extender GUI
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: I am using 1.33
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: i had an error a couple of days ago that told me someting was out of date, didnt have a chance to upgrade and it stopped asking..
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think you can reinstall the plugins and that should take care of it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: i just did that, removed from plugin and restarted..
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: im gonna restart aard
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: brb :P
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: blah, everything else seems to be working but the window is gone
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: reinstall the extender GUI plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: anyone know why a vi player with the aard mushclient and windows 7 is getting messages about missing lua 5.11
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 5.11 ? not 5.1 ?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: he said 5.11
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: fresh install of the vi exe
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: confirmed it says lua 5.11 isn't there
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: isn't mushclient built with lua in it??
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I just downloaded zip version of vi (https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/unzip_upgrading.html) and it works just after unzipping
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean it speaks 
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I installed the exe version fine also
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: tell jazaren ahh we'll have to ask Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think only reason that it does not work is either that mushclient was moved to other folder (without dlls) or that some software removed dlls (like antivir)
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ahh maybe that's it
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now, if that preson is willing to share teamviewer session with you - you could easily verify that
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: how do i turn on the gmcp.group protocols?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: anyone know where i could find maps for cmud?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: You have to make them yourself
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: Does anyone know what part of the code makes the S&D plugin clickable?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: HotSpot
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: oh okay. thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: err, unless you mean in the outputwindow.  WindowAddHotSpot is on the S&D GUI window
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the output window uses Hyperlink
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does the gmcp field "room.area" do/contain and when does it show up?  Never heard of it before.
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's information about the area
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for Aylor it contains { "id":"aylor", "name": "The Grand City of Aylor", "x": 30, "y": 20, "z": 0, "texture": "stones.png", "col": "", "flags": "quiet" }
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some of those values are obvious
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: texture tells the mapper plugin which background texture image to display
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: x,y,z are continent coordinates for the area
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: flags and col are I dunno. apparently aylor is quiet?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it sends when you request it
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: Anyone use Dull addon?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would it run me into that area?  it's all noport, it shouldn't be running me into there.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it tries probably recall from prosper
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: level lock to 300 exits to prosper from imaginarium
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but those rooms don't even connect to anything, there is no way out from there
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's what I ended up doing, just locked all those exits to 300
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomcio Tech: hi, how can i make new window box/panel (ex. chat/map) in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: it's prob not extremely easy
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomcio Tech: nice, but its not helping me
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it is not complicated at all. find a couple of plugins and exam them
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: i don't know how. but it invovles scripting
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: If I were you, I'd look through some existing code that does what you want and then try to examine them, It should indeed be relatively easy (just some function with a couple of parameters)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: finger bast or mendaloth for the url to their stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I don't have any mini-windows in public plugins.  But bast has a neat window helper plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomcio Tech: ok. Secend question, Mush client is the best?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's best in my opinion, and most popular (see clients), but it's an opinion no 'best' :)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomcio Tech: becouse i am newbie nad want create box for my note. I want have all box in one window.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomcio Tech: chat, note, stat...
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: when reinstalling mush from scratch, what's the file to move over that has my mapper data?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i do that one and the mcl one under worlds
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so it saves my triggers and aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thank you. that worked!
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: hey, is it possible to load in my client the search&destroy maps database from somewhere? i keep switching laptops/desktops and its getting annoying to build the database from scratch everytime
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: under the main mushclient folder there's an aardwolf database file
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: I learned that about an hour ago for the same problem!
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: ok, i'll look into it tx
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another option is to use something like dropbox and play from that folder
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the caveat to that is that you must close it on one computer before opening it on another computer
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i'm trying to avoid cloud solutions, don't like em
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thumb drive is good as well
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no cloud but just as synchronized
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and since that one's physical, it doesn't have that one caveat
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i'll look into that
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Anyone around willing to help me get sharptracker working correctly?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using the one from hadar?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Yeah, I just installed it but I was told it needs work getting it to work correctly
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dethavin nudges you. 
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I don't know of anything it needs...hadar fixed it to work with the newer bonus exp 123+12+12 messages
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dethavin peers intently at The God Thridi.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Hmm any clue on how I get it to post increase in skills to my channel of choice? It's not posting that atm. Only thing I have seen it post so far is when I level
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: --> TICK <-- (All: 100%, Qt: 19, T: 1) << What is the T?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: tells
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: type replay
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does anyone know how to setup a trigger in blowtorch to gag tags af
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, I wonder if there's a way to prevent child windows from being locked by the layout lock status. Used to be that way, but Fiendish made a change that locks everything. :\
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: ctrl alt del type explorer.exe in taskmanager
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ... That's not even remotely relevant.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: reboots kid screen withoit the locks where you can use telnet
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, not even in the same library, let alone the same page.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: test\ntest
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Err. Is there any way to echo more than one line
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: test<br>test
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: \\\Simulate("test\ntest")
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Better way, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Works wonderful. Thank you
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Actually, change that to Simulate("test\ntest\n")
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Need the final closing one to send a new line, otherwise it won't fire triggers.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, I'm trying to get the lastest and greatest bast... and I stupid?  How do I download all the files at once from github??
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and=am
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: over to the middle right of the page
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to his page, click bastmush...then there's a green "Clone or download" link
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Clone or download
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download zip
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks.  I'll look at his page see if I can find some instructions for installing them... some have to be installed before others but I forget which
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can download the zip from here: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/releases
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you unzip it, and put the ENTIRE folder named "Bast" into your worlds\plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to file -> plugins, and add the individual plugins you're interested in...it automatically handles dependencies...so for the cp window, just activate the miniwin one, don't need to activate the broadcast_cp one
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok.  do I need to shut down to move my logs folder over to this new installation?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Probably should.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, anytime you're moving "live" stuff, especially database stuff, you should have MUSHclient not running...that includes Bast's stuff in the logs folder and the aardwolf.db mapper file
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: there's only onr file in my old "logs" folder, an aardwolf chat log.  where are the bst logs?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, were you using any of bast's database-based stuff (eqdb or statdb)?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nm, I was inthe new directory, not the old one.  ooopsie!
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: happens to the best of us
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: anyone familiar with running old DOS games on mac using an emulator? 
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: found eq.db, stats.db
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there ya go, that's them :-)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, going link dead.. brb
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hopefully that worked.  now to install the plugins.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you do copy rather than moves...then your original folder is always there as a "just in case"
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: too late.  :)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: besides my old version was WAY WAY out of fate
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: date too
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shaelynne: should be able to just use wine for many of them...might need something like parallels or virtualbox for games which more-directly tie into Windows or the hardware
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: well i figured out how to download it, but I can't get it to save. 
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: three times in a row, when I try to install miniwin_stats the plugin window no longer lets me click on anyhtng and I have to force quit mush.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, does it let you type stuff?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when it freezes?  no.  I can move the curse, change screens and back again, but I can't click close, or add or anything.  All I can do is force quit
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and where are the wondows?  I think I have them installed, but the only window I have is windows
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i have one small window with DB NOW, Show windows and Hide windows. thats it
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some of the windows only show after there's a "qualifying event"...like the campaign window won't show unless it sees you request a campaign or do a cp check
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what about the ones that shows me mt stats and whatnot?  with the tabs like kills, and quests and cps?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there are commands for each of the plugins which will let you change foreground/background-ness of the windows...check out http://abelinc.me/bastdocs, click the "+" in the left-hand sidebar for Bast's plugins, and click on a particular plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: * = space; ***********|****anyword****|******
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: How do I get "anyword"
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh bamboo?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: With regex. I'm dumb
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those *s, are they real *s or representing something else?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: They're spaces
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: cool, "events" window just popped up (quest timer is up)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, got it now
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ... us, I've got two of them
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Tried.. ^\s*(\|)\s*(.*)\s$
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: The (.*) captures the spaces after anyword
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Actually captures everything
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are the | in fixed spots? what is it you're looking to capture? "           [|]    ([a-z]+)    [|]      "
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: The spaces are not uniform
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Could be any number of spaces, so I'm trying \s*
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you want \s+ right?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would capture the "anyword" in your exact example...ahh, OK, so I'd do " +[|] +([a-z]+) +[|] +"
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: \s+ is any number of spaces?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is some number of spaces, a pipe, some number of spaces, capture group of letters, some number of spaces, a pipe, some number of spaces...I didn't anchor anything, so you'd probably want to add ^ to the beginning and $ to the end
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: same as " +" i guess which i have never done before
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: \s+ same as " +" ?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plus is one or more of something
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not quite the same, because it's "whitespace", not quite spaces...
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I personally explicitly define my characters...so I don't use "\w", etc. because different regex implementations define them differently
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: [a-z] doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: need the +...([a-z]+)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are there just alphabetic characters in the word?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Err
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Got it to work. Thanks a ton!
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer A Nimwit Bamboo on and wish him good luck!
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Does " +" mean any number of space, including no space?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: + means at least 1
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, * means zero or more, + means one or more, ? means zero or one
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but ? AFTER a * means "match as few as you can while still letting the entire line match", where it starts getting more interesting (non-greedy)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a really nice website for learning regexp is http://www.regular-expressions.info...it looks like an 80s site, but the guy in charge of it has literally written the book on regular expressions (o'reilly musk shrew book)...he also writes my favorite text editor for Winderz, although it's a commercial one ($50)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I find https://regexr.com/ helpful
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he goes into great detail in some of his real-world examples to show how something that appears to be straightforward can end up being a lot harder than you'd think to get a fully-accurate regex (check out his example on matching an email address)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: as far as testing goes
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the site I mentioned isn't an online tester, it's a reference site and tutorial
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I prefer https://regex101.com/ for testing.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a way to highlight just the player name in channels? Like Zhalut tells you. You tell Zhalut blah ?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: a specific player, or all players?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: All players
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there isn't a pre-existing option for it
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the player who is making the channel communication (you in "You tell zhalut") is sent in a separate field in GMCP, so that part is pretty easy...the object (Zhalut in You tell Zhalut) would be more difficult
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can create a Highlight trigger for it, or use the #sub command in MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fiendish actually made it quite easy to do that. #sub {(Zhalut)} {%1} #alone
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the problem with creating a highlight trigger is that you don't know who you're highlighting before you do it...
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: #sub {(Zhalut)} {@R%1} #alone
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I read correctly, he wants EVERYONE, not just certain people...so you'd need a highlight trigger for evryone who exists or will exist
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you make it dynamic using the GMCP channel player field
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ah, yeah, I see.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Misread it as just wanting particular players.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a method to use the trigger to omit and send a colourtell in place, that won't experience lag?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: TriggerStyleRuns, sure.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, actually the entire comm log used to be written as a trigger to omit and use a colourtell in its place...
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although the latest incarnation tell the MUD to not even send the in-game output
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But yeah, you can use TriggerStyleRuns to change what needs to be changed.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd write a note or github comment to Fiendish asking for an option to highlight player names...as I said, it won't actually do the object player, but it would highlight the speaker easily
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I echo that field to myself to know which IMM is performing a restore
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Does anyone want a free 6 month subscription to CloudApp Pro?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: all of a sudden using eqdb plugin im getting trigger function "invmon" not found or had previous error, all my plugins keep randomly crashing for no reason...
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably not for no reason
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably because of a bug
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: whats the best course of action, everytime i use my alias for a portal i get that error
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're seeing "not found or had previous error", the reason is always a previous error
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: you need to reload the plugin before it will work again
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when a plugin errors, it stops working
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: reloading the plugin will reset it until the next time
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i attempted to reinstall it, but it continues
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i would try to work out why your portal is causing that error
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: idk its been fine since ive set it months ago, disabling, reinstalling and enabling seemed to work for now
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thank you everyone!
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you get an error message again, try to catch what it says before it starts saying it had a previous error
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I just copied my mush from my laptop, upon opening I'm getting this error
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: [WARNING] C:\Users\Mike\Documents\My Games\my games\Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1557\MUSHclient\worlds\Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Line    8: C:\Users\Mike\Documents\My Games\my games\Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1557\MUSHclient\worlds\constants.lua was not found. (Not loaded)
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How'd you copy mushclient? Did you copy the whole folder, or just copy over your world file to an existing mushclient install?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Copied the entire folder
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: copied with mush closed?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Yes mush closed on both pc's
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: constants is in my worlds/plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is it in c:\users\Mike\Documents\My Games\my games\Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1557 though?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am on version r1946
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type checkversion
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: r1557
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Metria, yes it is
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metzli: can you open your world file in a text editor like Wordpad or Notepad
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Where would I find that? inside the worlds folder I do not see a worlds file
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metzli: your world file is worlds\Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, I should have been specific
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: It's open in Notepad now
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you search for the word "constants", does it find that?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Wait yes, sorry
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Highlighted all and it found it
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it say?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that line
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: <include name="constants.lua" />
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: delete that line
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Save and reopen mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: quit mush first, then save
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then reopen
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Ok, trying that, brb
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: That fixed it. Thanks a bunch Fiendish :) and to the others that helped as well
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good, but just so you know, I have no idea how that line got there
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Haha well that makes two of us
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tbh, it sounds like something I didn't even know was possible
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metzli giggles.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I'm good at breaking things, always have been
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that line is something that often gets thrown into old plugins by default copy-pasted by people who don't know what they're doing yet or who aren't paying attention, but I've not seen it in a world file before
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the plugin wizard puts that line into plugins also
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Maybe that was it
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but there's no wizard for un-plugining
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, as far as I know
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any idea what would cause my mushclient to contanstly go into a non responding state?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what are you doing when it happens 
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and what do you mean by "constantly"?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just trying to type.  i think its just this is a terrible laptop
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: windows or linux or mac os?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just normal stuff, its a crummy work pc im playing on cause when im using wine on my mac it kept like duplicating every file 
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: windows
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: im using the same mush file at work on a normal pc, i really just think this laptop blows, but i would think it would be ok to run mush, but every program lags now i think about it
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish meows happily and prances around.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What are the specs, I got a 8 year old laptop running Mush through wine and not getting the lag you're describing
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there are all kinds of reasons why a computer would have trouble running things. do you have any high CPU processes running?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: window 10 home, 6 gigs, 2.5 ghz amd.  they are crummy laptops we bought at work just to use the internet to log in customer
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What at the top of task manager for CPU?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Set it to stay on top, and see what CPU/disk is like when you're encoutering the client lag
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just sytem its no big deal
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok cool!
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fiendish, is there a way to keep a particular window ulocked even with layout locked? In particular, a window from one of my own plugins...
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol what why
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Because I like having my layout locked, but a couple windows, I move around occasionally, and don't want the hassle of unlock, move, lock.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my mush uses 658MB of RAM and almost always less than 1% CPU
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe your HDD is garbage?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 658? hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that ram seems very high
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, I'm barely using 80 megs
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: crowley: the new version lets you save layout "sets"...would that work for your intended use?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No, Abelinc, not really, because the location varies quite a bit on what I'm using at the moment.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, figured it was worth a shot :P
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Or where I want to draw my focus, so I'd have to create multiple sets.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno why https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbbdf1nt2x1upod/mush-ram.PNG?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there any kind of plugin memory report?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have something of baswt's installed, you can type "plugins"
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: 3 gig in chrome? You got 300+ tabs open? ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it has been open for 13 days
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no only 18 tabs across 2 windows
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: prolly some crappy scripting page
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: My mush is at 124MB right now. Heh.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pwar look for pairsbykeys
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: plugins show 74.7MB total, highest # is chat window at 30MB
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think I've seen someone use secureCRT in years
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use it for work so i ahem got a free copy.  was using it for log view on home server
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: a bunch of plugins dont show a # though, i wonder what needs to be in them to report?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do alt-5 and see how big of a buffer you set up, at the bottom of that config window
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah its max 500k
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a function that the plugin needs to have defined
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think thats max anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the function getmemoryusage() definition you'll see in some plugins is what gets it to show values in the "plugins" output
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and I only know that cuz I had a conversation with Fiendish about it last week)
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: easy enough, maybe i could add that to tprint since pretty much all plugins i have require that
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but i guess that'd throw an error for ones that already have the same func?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua doesn't care if you redefine a function
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just copy that from existing plugins into other ones to see if that'll get them to show...put it at the bottom just before the closing ]]> 3 lines up
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well i added it to tprint and reloaded all of "my" plugins.  most are a couple hundred K only except a 6MB one that stores all my enchants
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: taskmgr still shows 668MB
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hehe restarted mush now its at 89MB
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe just buffer?  dunno
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: styleruns are probably pretty large for what they are
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue is using 8.5MBs }:>
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Will Fetch eventually drop his staff again when killed if I already completed step 1? Killed him 5 times now ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: is there any SQL expert who can help me with a Mapper SQL query?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: in bash's eq and eqsets plugin is there a way to 'refresh' an item after it's been enchanted (beside manually deleting it from the DB) ?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Bast*
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: in Bast's eq and eqset plugin, is there any way to 'refresh' an item (for example to update it's stats after enchant) ?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Quick question: Can you save two different miniwindow layouts inside Mushclient without using two different world files? 
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes!
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Yes? How?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type 'aard layout help'
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: (My laptop has a much smaller screen than my regular comp, so the usual layout looks screwed up there)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if that doesn't do anything, then you'll need to upgrade
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Wow, exactly the functionality I was looking for! I love it! Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Shaleya.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any screen reader users around?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Having trouble scrolling back accurately in main window (Windows 10). Is there a fix for this?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: Have you tried ctrl+up arrow?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: No, I have not. Can that be used while selecting text?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what happens why you try to select?  the window should pause right?  or does it keep scrolling?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: when selecting, as it goes past what was visible, it speeds up so I can't stop accurately.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: If you scroll mouse wheel, does it not switch to MORE mode?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: More appears in bottom right, next to Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It's just an issue since I bought a new Windows 10 computer (was using...Vista!). I'm a thinkpad user, and use a pointer stick rather than a mouse wheel.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe a windows setting will affect it?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Page-Up key?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you missed Windows 7 in between which was much better than Win 10
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: MS tech support tried to fix it without success.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Page-up and CTRL-up arrow, should put you into the MORE mode
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if it doesn't, might echeck the settings in Alt+5 on the right side
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: page-up and CTRL-up are okay for just scrolling back, but don't seem to work with selecting text
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Check if "auto pause" is checked and "unpause on send"
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: oh, hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: she described the problem, its not that
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I guess I'd need to speak with a thinkpad user, who has suffered this issue.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sounds like sensitivity of the stick or whatever it is
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: The stick is fine until scrolling goes past what was originally visible.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: right it should speed up
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: plug in a wireless mouse
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but with a mouse its manageable
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: never mind =)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: well, it speeds up too much, so I have to roll backwards then it just gets me back where I started.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: does it do that just in Mush, or also in a browser?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: options and click backspace
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I have trouble with the concept of "plugging in" a wireless mouse.  I have one, but it's paired with another computer.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: have you tried adjusting # of lines for mouse scroll?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: hmmm uplug and plug it back in. should download instanly
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I just test in Notepad++, and there's no problem there.  I've adjusted mouse scroll to one line.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: gulp sacra
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: damn .....fail
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: unplug what and plug back in?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dont listen to him :p
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: This is an older version of MushClient.  I don't suppose the latest version has a scroll bar, does it?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it does, but you cant highlight/select and use it
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: scrollbar is far right,  not part of output window
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: ooooh, never noticed THAT scroll bar!
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that is THE one :p
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: A work around maybe... double click your starting word, then scroll, then Shift+click the ending word
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Thanks!  I can just select SHIFT when selecting and use the scroll bar...
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Sorry to trouble you, and thanks again.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Anyone use Microsoft Visual Studio Community?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: A bit, though almost certainly not enough to be helpful.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: So, how is it?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: same here
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: better than any previous version
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: more bloated than any previous version
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ah. Does it lack anything?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it has a 30gb kit. it better not be missing anything
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Im assuming theres a compiler for both 31 and 64 bit processors?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: sorry, *32*
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Cool.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: are you planning to develop MFC apps or something?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: No, just desktop apps.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'm too old for this, it seems :)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ive been coding for a couple of years now, mostly in C++ but some in C.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: mfc IS (well, was) destop development for win.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I have a friend who did binary for a while.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what do you mean "binary"?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: He created switchboards
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I like binary, but base 10 is my favorite.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I program in base 10 for the most part.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if they had microprocessors, and he didn't use an assembler, he was doing it wrong, imho.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what do you mean by desktop apps, having eliminated mfc from the list?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Apps that run from a computer, not phones or .net based.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: hell, I can't check the list of components, this POS vs installer wants to update the WHOLE install just to open the "modify" panel
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mfc is just a library.  desktop apps can be in C, VB etc
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that's what I'm asking about above. if mfc is out, and code's not managed, what exactly do you use? direct win32 calls?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Yah.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Slowly, Libel Liber looks at Chevalier, chews his cud, and muh-OOOOs!
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber just totally 8failed Chevalier. Do they even have a shift key?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber goes ooOOooOOoo at Chevalier.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you certainly can do that, with vs comunity.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, when this update finishes, if you want me to check a component or something, if it's available, I'll be glad to do it
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Are the programs generated by the VBCommunity compiler dependent on .net?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if you mean vb.net, yes. I'm not even sure there's a VB outside of .NET (except for VB for Applications, in Office)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Sorry, meant VStudio. :)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: depends on the project type
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for c/c++, not (I'm not sure if there's a managed c++ anymore?)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for c#/vb, certainly.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for python... :)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: actually, for python it depends. it supports both managed python and the 'usual' interpreter
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why are you trying to avoid .net?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: but if you plan to do desktop apps, I'd really, really suggest going with .NET and Windows.Forms
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I mean, it's not like the win32 api is platform independent or something
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ive been using Eclipse configured to C and C++, paired with the cross GCC compiler
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you could use notepad++, and windows.forms would be easier to maintain :)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: ok. update completed. you have: C++/CLI (that's managed code), vc++ 2015 and vc++ 2017 toolchains (both 32 and 64 bit both), vc++ for arm (32 and 64 bit)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: also, mfc and atl (32 and 64 bit)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I cant wait till there are 128 bit processors...almost tempted to build one myself :)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: there are 128 bit architectures defined. noone 'wired' them yet ;)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Can I do something if a miniwindow has disappeared off the edge of my screen? I mean apart from restting everything?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: err
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I don't read
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Which miniwindow?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ok, this is fine, though. It was Bast's tab bar. Anyway, I can reset and work from here, I guess.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you have the latest version of Mushclient, you can save 'sets', so instead of resetting all your windows, you can just load the set.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Learned that from Fiendish earlier. That's what I'm setting up on the laptop now.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is there any way to mitigate spoofed phone number spam calls without blocking potentially real calls?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: !
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: in mu tasl manager it shows disk 100% it goes cpu memory disk network,  could this be why im getting not responding alot
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: that isn't a why. it is another symptom of something wrong. sort the list by disk and find the process eating it all up
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: now can insay it
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: go to task explorer.exe and stop it
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: top of the taskmanager go to newprocess and use explorermexe
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: explorer.exe and it shows the start up process
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did he do it?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: dont know it should speed up with basic programs
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there is precedent documented.  it is worth a try.  but perhaps you should explain what/why instead of just saying hey do this
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but hey, anyone who doesnt google why their disk is 100% doesnt deserve to get it fixed!
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: right. could be someone overclocked his disk
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: that would cause slowness
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you mean speedness
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: at the first part.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is the MUSHc command to note all aliases to the main window? I am trying to find a specific alias that i want to remove
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: is there a way to troubleshoot plugins to see which triggers are firing from different plugins ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: how do i capture the gmcp room number in a lua script function ? I have the line require "gmcphelper"...
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i was looking at https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP#gmcp-how-to for an example but even the charater staus thing doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What's the script look like?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Just the simple myLevel example there?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: nm, i'll come back later
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: in an alias or trigger, if alias, you sending it to script?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: well if either one, needs to be "Send To: Script"
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: How do I get Mushclient to stop trying to open a deleted log file when it starts up?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you say trying, do you mean it's printing an error message? or do you mean that it's making a new file?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Not making a new file...just says cannot open the log file, and then I close that window, and it proceeds with startup
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I tried logging to a new file, but that doesn't change the situation.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It's a new computer, and the path to the old file doesn't exists, or I'd just construct something there for it to open.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, there are a couple of places I'd look to fix this
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: first I'd press ctrl+alt+G and look at the Logging tab to make sure that the default log files directory isn't something stupid
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (that's also File->Global Preferences)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then I'd do Alt+3 (or Game->Configure->Logging)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: That looked fine...it wasn't the wierd directory that old file was in.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and there I'd make sure that the "Automatically log to this" entry is either blank or something not stupid
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: OK! In game..configure...logging, it pointed to the old file path
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish holds his thumb up at nothing in particular.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Kylia.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I just deleted that, and also deleted the option to log automatically...which I don't want to do, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Should be fine now:)  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: excellent
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: glad to help
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll bet that you started logging at my advice when you were working on a goal...logging is great when you're doing goals, to be able to go back and see everything that a MOB said rather than just the hints that show up in "tasks here" :-)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: I just upgraded to current version and every previous problem I had is fixed now! GMCP is actually easy now!
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i got a failed mapper db integrity check message
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: You on dropbox?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: anyone know name of the backup file to resurrect ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its in backups folder
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no i quit that
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Restore the latest db into your root folder
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: would it be called Aardwolf.db.Backup_Automatic
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: so just rename it to Aardwolf.db and place in root of mushclient folder ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i'll quit, do it, and come back
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i replaced my mapper database with the backup version from last night when i had 4.93 but i am still getting the integrity fail message when mushclient opens (current version)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: any suggestions ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it may be integrity fail or maybe not
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should get some SQLlite explorer and verify integrity
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: recently Fiendish has found some error in check routine that incorretly reported integrity error
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: this is 5.06-pre - is there a version in between this and 4.93 that actually works so you can easily capture GMCP data ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: download singular sqlite3explorer and open aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: singular sqlite3explorer ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, i'll try that. when i open it what do i do ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is application that you can use to open sqlite databases (like aardwolf.db)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: got it, but i am assuming i have to close mushclient so asking in advance what function in the app i run
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: close mush, copy db, start mush, continue the conversation :)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: sounds like an idea, Liber :)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, you can open it with running mush
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: once you've opened it just execute: PRAGMA integrity_check
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it shows OK then it is ok
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may also want execute PRAGMA wal_checkpoint(FULL);  before pragma integrity_check;
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway: download that sqlite explorer, run it, "open database", select aardwolf.db, open then just write those PRAGMA lines and click "execute"
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok so my mushclient keeps freezing.  i just opened up task manager and have it overlayyed on top like was recommended.  Under processes i have 4 columsn, CPU memory Disk and network.  Cpu goes from 10%-70% off and on, usually hoverying real low, memory is 55% disk is 100% and network is 0%  could this be causing the client to "not respond" often
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Disk is 100% in total, or specifically mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I think, the vast majority of MUSH stuff should be happening in RAM really, only i/o should be database related (mapper, stats, eqdb, etc) or chat logs and it's minimal i/o, should be anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to go to the performance tab and click on resource monitor...there you can see what is making the disk thrash
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: which version of S&D is compatible with mushclient 5.06 R1947 ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: How come this isn't tripping for me? ^Global Quest: Global quest \# (\d+) has been declared for levels (.*) to (.*)\.$  --> does \d need to be [0-9]?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Nevermind I know the reason
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Any questions or complaints about the dinv plugin?  Fire away! :)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't have any questions or complaints, but I love the dinv plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'll take that too :)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ditto, really is a great plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kishoto Tech: and pokemon
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats the dinv?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Check out my whois for links to the plugin and docs.  It's an inventory manager plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh! I had a feature request
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It does lots of stuff, but the most popular feature appears to be the ability to automatically generate equipment sets based on your current stats
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It's THE inventory manage plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you make ~worn work in queries?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wow dude, looks impressive
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: where do we get it
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: go to the 23rd page of the note, at the bottom
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I should probably add "worn" and "~worn" to the queries.  I like that.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You already have worn, sorta, it matches all your worn eq. I'd like to be able to do something like: dinv search type portal ~worn
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I can see how that could be handy.  It's now on my wishlist.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: anyone know how to do multiline triggers in blowtorch? even if it has to be done via plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is there a non-portal version of mapper where?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I don't see an option for it. There's mapper walkto, but that takes you to the location, hmm.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea mapper walkto without actually going there is what i wanted
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I don't know why the use of a lock makes code reentrant. Reentrant code is never stepped on, code that uses a lock is serially reusable not reentrant.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: reentrant code requires that you buy memory for data each time the code is invoked while a serially reusable code just locks others out while stepping on the critical part of memory.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: just venting at something I am reading :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: microsoft operating system weren't designed for reentrance :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: but if the code only uses the stack then it can be reentrant because each time the code is invoked it gets a separate stack.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Is there any plugin writers here? I want to ask about scoping
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I have some lua files that I require from my plugin. But when I update the lua code and reload the plugin, lua code does not updates. How can I refresh the cache?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: did you reinstall the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Yes. Still gives error like I did not fixed it.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Does mush stores the variables that defined in plugins somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: did you try restarting?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: after removing and readding it still gives the error like I did not fixed it
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes it does store the values umm not sure where
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: removed plugin and restarted the client. still lua code did not updated
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are you sure you put the code in the right place? or wait and ask fiendish... he's the mushclient umm boffin
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Yes I am sure. I copied the method of Bast. He has lua folder under his plugins. and copied the objectlua thing
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: When I change the code it cant update the lua file it seems
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Oh It was my mistake. Sorry! I did a small misspel somewhere. that is why I was thinking it was not updating
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: any version of WinkleWinkle plugins work with new version of mudclient ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: which version of mush ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: 5.06
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: finger starling
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: finger starling
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i tried that, got error message on load
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: but don't get 1.3.4 thats a work in progress. 1.3.2 is the bets stable at the moment
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: at least thats my opninion
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: the one on the url was 1.3.3
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 1.3.3 loads perfectly for me (mush 5.06 pre)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, i'll try it again
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: i had some quirks with 1.3.3 but if its working its working
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: have you reported the 'quircks'?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 1.3.3 sometimes needs an extra 'cp check', but was not able to identify 'when' that happens
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: yeah i spoke to Starling, he's working on 1.3.4
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: at least he was yesterday but gor fed up with it not working
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, just tried it, i get load error: Line   42: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: 1.3.2?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yeah, gonna download an try that
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: really curious... that's a generic xml error
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: 1.3.2 give same error on attempt load
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: Line   42: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ok... how did you downlo9ad it ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: save link
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: direct into folder
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: probably that's the problem
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: gimme 30 secs
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ok... follow the link for the 1.3.3 release, then the green button 'clone or download', download the zip
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok done that part
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: now copy to plugins folder ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: now you can unzip it wherever you like... I suggest or the plugin folder or a new subfolder there
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: then you go to plugin and add all 3 files
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: so far so good
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: nice :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I had no problems with 1.3.3, but if you have you can download the 1.3.2 (same procedure) that's absolutely stable
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok gonna quit client and come back
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: file/save qorkd details before you quit :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: save world* details
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: hey KitCarson, thank you ! I just did a Xrunto and it worked fine
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: good :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: still have the mapper database integirty check fail though
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oh... dont think that's connected to S&D.... that neams your actual db is corrupted
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no, not connected to S&D
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: only thing you can do is restore a previous backup of the db... while client is NOT running
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: tried that already
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: from the folder db_backups ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: Trachx had a suggestion of using Sqlite explorer to fix, but i can't a copy for windows in the web
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: tryed even with the '_old' or '_older' ones ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: well suppose i could try an older copy, yeah
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: lemme go offline and give that a shot
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yep... that's an alternative... trying to fix it with the explorer....checking something
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: https://www.sqlite.org/ should have all you need to fix the db... didnt check it, though
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: http://sqlitebrowser.org/ has windows version
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oh yeah... too many years since I last looked at sqlite... you have to compile it... oh
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: what daak said :) (thank daak)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, this is weird, i did download from that website already, i chose the SQLiteDatabaseBrowserPortable.exe
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: is that one ok to use ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i didn't know it was the same product
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: hmmmm... it doesnt seems to have an option to 'repair' the db... and I think there is NOT an easy way to repair it, or sqlite libs would have that implemented... 
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: going afk for some time
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than restoring from backups, the best way to recover from a databse integrity issue with sqlite is to do a dump to a .sql file, and then create a fresh database from the .sql file...kinda like fixing zmud back in the day
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's a walkthrough on doing that (change spiceworks_prod to aardwolf): https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/1468-how-to-fix-corrupt-sqlite-database
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, found out issue is not with aardwolf.db itself, removed one of my plugins, now Aardwolf is working fine
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does that other plugin have a db of its own? bast's eqdb and statdb both put db files into the logs folder
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yeah it does
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: wow this dinv thing just failed epically
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What happened?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: tons of fails and skipped ids
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley hasn't had any issues with it, but is well-versed in it to be able to at least investigate.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What do you mean, tons of fails and skipped ids?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you getting any error messages?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: lemme redo
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: start with dinv reload, then do dinv refresh
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: (assuming you've already done a dinv build from before)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i need to clear out the old one
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i kept getting a ton of dinc fence skipping stuff like that
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok let me see what we an do here
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello hello
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered 
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is there an echo in here
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello hello
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: answered
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: answered
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: hello, all is good at present :) I am so glad of the new implementation of gmcp functions!
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: problems with a couple of older plugins, but will take it up with the author(s)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So with the FCC repealing Net Neutrality, I wonder how long it's going to be before we actually have to pay our ISPs to play Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: probs never, so low bandwidth it won't even register....be worried about netflix and music streaming
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: "Pay $13.99 for Netflix, but then pay $29.99 to your ISP to run Netflix!"
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: they've been doing tons of illegal stuff but unable to use it in anyway, here comes the wave...I hope your friends dont do drugs on your phone...
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: americans dont even know the difference between their country, britians law system and the US corporation....figures
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Speak for yourself, Zarra. Don't include all Americans, thank you.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: sry...most
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: news flash, you already pay your ISP to play Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: soon we can buy donations for faster aard connection!
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I am working on a plugin and trying to catch the fighting mob name but at low levels mob dies even before gmcp updates. So is there a better way for this? Like a trigger?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can hear my elderly neighbors talking to each other about net neutrality through the wall
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "If you want to have Facebook....you'll have to pay $2 more per month"
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Valour: only with a trigger, one hit kills never send the mob name by gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Why, I don't know
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: OHK doesn't send battle gmcp at all. :(
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's because there's no combat gmcp message. it's just character status.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Maybe because the time between initiating battle and death is less than the MUD's pulse rate?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: But death message always changes according to weapon damage type. Is there a list of messages somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: There are other triggers you can use to capture the mob name.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: like?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The sacrifice of the corpse, for one.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Far fewer triggers for that than trying to match each spell/damtype.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Trophy, skin, consume, sacrifice, and maybe a couple others.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: drinking blood on vampires also
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's consume.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I will try with that then
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: <-- is a vampire.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't know why I didn't emote that, but whatever, point across.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Yes yes I am also vampire. I will try to catch that as trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Anyone gettting pack loss right now going to mud?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You are.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Geting 30-40%  at algx.net
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Solid connection here.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: 0 packets lost so far
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: going from a digital ocean droplet, getting 70-75% loss on a Level3 hop
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: in Newark
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Heh, my internet died (Frontier CT), hotspot still works ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is it enabled?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well you wouldnt want it disabled if you wanted it to work
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone have Jacko's autohunt script or a similar one that they can send to me? Trying to rebuild my database from scratch, but I'd rather download that particular part than have to rewrite it from scratch.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: check to see if Atreides still has his website. He used to post a hunt script.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: Yuna, here is soemthing that you can use :) http://showcase.netins.net/web/wexl/Games/Aardwolf/readme.htm
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: look at the bottom of the page
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That was the page whose download link I was talking about. The download link leads to a dead domain.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: oh, I am sorry.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: actually, if you know how to script you can ask for the script for any client and just convert
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I am sure the script you want has been written for mush so someone here has it.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: probably as a plugin of some sort
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'd be fine with manually converting a script. I just need a script to start with.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: post a note on tech asking for the scripts you want, that way even those offline right now will know what you want.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you trigger a macro in zMud? I've forgotten and can't seem to easily find the answer through Google. like, I want F4 to trigger F3 7 times.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: You're going to have a hard time finding a lot of zmud support, tbh. It's obsolete and dead.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Almost 10 years.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But it looks so much better than Mushclient. I'm not a fan of the graphical interface of Mushclient. Is there a way to deactivate the bolding of the text?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Play with it? :P
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: uhh, yea just change your font to not-bold
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh. I guess I'll test out Mushclient again.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: send a note to danj
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I set the font?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in what client?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: MUSH
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: this is blowing my mind, picking a client based on default font
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's the MUSHclient's equivalent of a ^ for triggers? I.e. the marker that flags the trigger to only trigger if a text line starts with the trigger text?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it is: ^
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need to check Regular Expression
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient patterns are not regular expressions by default until you check the box to make it so
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright, thanks. :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: A few MUSH questions: 1) What's the input command for triggering a macro in? Like, if I want F4 to triggfer F3 7 times, how do I do that? 2) Is there a way to make MUSH not automatically
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: the last line of text I typed in once I press enter unless I type in something else? Like in zMUD, if you type in "cast heal" and hit enter, you'd cast heal, but hitting enter again would cast heal again instead of necessitating you pressing up first to repeat the command.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 3) Is there a way to make MUSh do what zMUD does when you press down (purging whatever you've typed into the command prompt)?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Macros
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As far as I can tell, that page does not tell me how to trigger a macro outside of actually hitting the button for it.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for #2 Alt-0  ... check Auto-repeat command
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that should also solve #3 because when i press down arrow it gets rid of my typed text
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unless its highlighted then i have to do down 2x
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yay. Thanks, Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yuna: can you ask your macro question again? I think I didn't understand it.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... that didn't seem to solve #3. It only works if I've trying to get rid of something after I've already pressed enter. I want a quick way to purge the prompt at any time.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yuna: down arrow will clear the input bar if you press it when the cursor is at the end of the line, or twice if the input is all highlighted
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: actually its kind of hit or miss... mine traverses history if possible
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you go into keyboard settings, you can optionally enable Esc clears input
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also, Traverse history checked but Arrow key recalls history seems to do the same with down arrow
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also, Traverse history checked but Arrow key recalls history unchecked seems to do the same with down arrow
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but i like the Esc, thank you
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Escobar?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Escape key
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: my bad :p
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, I found those options today myself.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That doesn't work for me. Arrow Key Traverse History checked and Arrow Key recalls history unchecked only works if I hit enter first.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there is some inconsistent behavior i guess, but it did work for me at least once
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like if i started typing after, it would delete, but if it was there already it didnt
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I call upon a trigger, a variable and a macro in MUSH? Like, in zMUd, it'd be for variables. So if I wanted typed in, say, "dual ualwield", I'd wear whatever was the varaible dualwield was set to.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's a script function GetVariable()
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Nick Gammon actually has a few nice videos online that walks through some basic stuff like using variables and triggers and aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So the command in MUSH would be "dual GetVariable(dualwield)"? And for the others, it'd be GetAlias? GetMacro?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: theres different ways to do it really
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wait, Yuna. Are you talking about how to reference variables in an alias? Or do you mean how to use variables in the input line?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In aliases, macros, triggers.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metria: can you help with this? I have to run for a bit
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can try
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In a trigger body, use what Fiendish said.  GetVariable("variablename")
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What about macro/alias? The same?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, what is the command to set a variable? SetVariable? Like, I want to set up so that whenever I type in "dual", anything that comes afterwards will be dual wielded AND set to the variable dualwield. What command should I type into the alias body?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Something like: Send ("dual %1") and SetVariable("dualwielded", %1) I'm guessing
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: SetVariable doesn't seem to do anything.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Google may have given me an answer. Off to test it.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nope. dual dagger | dual %1 / SetVariable("dualwielded", "%1") doesn't set dualwielded to dagger either.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: youre on zmud, only 8 people here use zmud
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: switch to mushclient and we can all help you
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, I'm on MUSHClient. I switched today specifically because nobody uses zMUD.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For the alias, name it dual *
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: sorry to stick in another question, but... about EnableTrigger("name", true|false), what is this 'name'?  is it Label, or Group?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: label
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: EnableTriggerGroup takes a group
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so, label or group, either will work?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: o i c
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thanks again
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: All adding an astrix after the name of the alias "dual" seems to have done is make SetVariable be sent to the MUD as a MUD command instead of the client as a MUSHClient command. I now get an "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles." message after executing the command "dual %1".
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What do you have Send To set to?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: dual %1 / SetVariable("dualwielded", "%1") (where the slash is a line break)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, but there's a dropdown box labeled "Send To", which needs to be set to "Script"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Now I get an error window. "[string "Alias: "]:1: '=' expected near 'dagger"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: also "dual %1" needs to be inside of a "Send()"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria nods at Kash.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Placed "dual %1" inside of "Send()". Still getting the new error window.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: Send("dual %1")
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: SetVariable("dualwielded","%1")
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alias: ^dual (.*?)$ | Send: Send("dual %1") / SetVariable("dualwielded","%1")
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Now I get "Sorry Yuna, I don't understand you." and "That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list."
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. Forgot to set it to script again (had to delete the old one and make a new one).
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It finally works! Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: then you didnt select "Script" in under "Send to"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Off to set up a bunch of aliases and variables now! Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so i got that EnableTrigger("name", true|false) to work.  but if you put this trigger in a plug in, can it still be turned on and off?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes...but you'd need to either have that EnableTrigger be in the plugin, or you'd need to use EnableTriggerPlugin
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so all 3, the trigger, enable, and disble, need to be in the same plug in.?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the entire point of plugins is that they are a full sandbox...one plugin can have a trigger named "Johnny", and that will not interfere with another plugin having a trigger named "Johnny"...so without using special "tell me what plugin you're messing with" stuff, nothing outside of a plugin has visibility or control over anything inside it
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ok, so I've set up a bunch of variables and aliases. Now I need to call upon a variable. If I, for example, trigger the alias "testing", I want the input to be "wield -variable-". "Wield GetVariable("NameofVariable")" didn't work.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can actually use wield @varname...and check the checkbox for expand variables
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GetVariable() is a function, so you'd need to use the send to script option to use that...and in send to script, you'd also need to use Send(), so it'd be Send ("wield " .. GetVariable("varname"))
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "wield ielded" returns the following error in a pop-up window: " "[string "Alias: "]:1: '=' expected near 'axe'"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "wield ~ielded" returns the following error in a pop-up window: " "[string "Alias: "]:1: '=' expected near 'axe'"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's 3 "settings" that you'll really ever use in the send to drop-down...world (sends what's in the big box literally, with just %1-style and @varname-style substitution)...execute (pretends that you typed what's in the big box into the command line, including alias expansion)...and script (uses functions() and such)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for wield @wielded, you'd use send to world
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, ok. Thanks, again!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Onto the next problem. I've set a trigger so that if the game sends me the message "QUEST: You have almost completed your QUEST!", I am to enter the commands "ent / qc", where qc is an alias for quest complete. I execute "ent" just fine, but then I execute the social qc instead of my alias qc. What is missing in my trigger body?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see my "3 settings" comment in -h 10 for an explanation of when to use which send-to option
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So why do Triggers need Send to Execute while Aliases need Send to World?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yuna, that's not the case. You're misunderstanding what the send to is for.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not trigger vs alias...it's that you're not trying to send "qc" to the world...you want MUSHclient to parse it
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: if qc is an alis, it needs to be executed instead of being sent to the world since the mud doesnt know what "qc" is
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it were an aardwolf alias, then send to world would be appropriate...but being an alias, it's not something for "world"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oooh, right. I get it now. Thanks again.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And now for the last part that I need (for now): What's the command for settings an alias? Like, I want to be able to create an alias, such as "atks", where if I type in "atks cookies", it will set the alias "fun" to cookies. Apparently, "SetAlias" wasn't it.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what a variable is for, not an alias...
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You can't use an alias to set another alias?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's zero reason to
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd use AddAlias(), but you're looking at your problem wrong...you shouldn't be changing your alias, you should be abstracting it
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This creates a new problem for me: I've set the alias atkskill where anything I type afterwards will be set to the variable atkskill. I now want to be able to call upon the variable atkskill through the macro buttons F3 and F4 (once with F3 and 8 times with F4). However, tkskill does nothing.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That would be (at symbol)atkskill. What's the MUSHclient prefix for symbols you want displayed in Aardwolf instead of used for code?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @ is an aard-side issue, not a MUSH issue...gotta double it
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the color code parser of aard eating the @s
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I know.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyway, so how do you call upon a variable if you just want to parse the variable as a command? Like, I've set ttackskill to Gouge. I want the macro F3 to just parse "Gouge" (or whatever I've set ttackskill to) upon pressing. ttackskill just gives me "Sorry, Yuna. You can't do that."
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (Or the other 2 Aard error messages)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd just have an alias of single_atk that f3 calls, and an alias multi_atk that f3 calls...and both of those aliases will be sending @atkskill
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes (except F4 is the multi one).
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But in this case, we're using a variable. Because I want to be able to easily set the atkskill whenever I gain a new and better one. That's what the alias to set the variable is for.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, typo on that...so for multi_atk, you'd just have @atkskill<enter>@atkskill<enter>etc
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The problem is that @atkskill doesn't even work.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, which is why I said you don't need an alias to set an alias, you're using the alias to set a variable
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the single_atk and multi_atk aliases, did you check the "expand variables" checkbox?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with that expanded, then @atkskill will get expanded to be whatever that variable is currently set to, and then sent to the MUD
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes. Set to script and expand variables.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, wait. Has to be set to execute. Now it works.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you can have it set to script but you would have to have execute commands within the script
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to expand a variable it can be set to world
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So you only set to Script if you're making an alias or trigger that sets a variable (or trigger and alias, maybe?)?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You only set it to Script if you intend to use scripting functions. If you just want the text in the box to get sent to the world, set it to world.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you set to script if you're using functions()...that's a script
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you set to execute to CALL a MUSHclient alias
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you set to world for everything where you don't need either of those 2 things
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But it also works for calling a MUSHclient variable, apparently?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (execute)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: execute is "world plus a bit smarter"...
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it'll work when it's not necessary
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: world means "send my contents"...execute means "pretend I typed this"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the contents of the alias are very similar for execute and world...but script is totally different because nothing will actually be sent to the MUD without it being within a Send() or Execute() function
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright. I think I've got it all now. Thanks for all the help. Off to rebuild the rest of my database from scratch.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Trying to create a trigger in MUSHclient that automatically sends "ivoted" whenever [*Time to VOTE*] appears on my log, but it's not trigering for some weird reason. Trigger: ^\[(.*?)Time to VOTE(.*?)\]$ / send: ivoted . I've tried both World and Execute. Regular expression.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: doesnt that come up at the beginning of your prompt? is so then you need it to end like this: \].+$
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: How does the line [*Time to VOTE]* appear in your log?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ivoted clear
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What's the purpose of automatically sending it when it pops up, though? Why not just turn it off?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if you mean prompt, ya you need to take off the $ or do .*$ or .+$
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ah, there's a different suffix for when the line doesn't end with it?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ^ means start of line and $ means end of line.  if your time to vote isnt the whole line then it wont trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I tried just removing the suffix as well and that didn't work. I'll try the other suffix.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: you're also using back references for the * which isn't necessary... ^\[\*Time to VOTE\*\] would suffice
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Or if it's in the middle of the prompt: \[\*Time to VOTE\*\]
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: That let's someone yes trigger your trigger though, so beware ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: That let's someone yes trigger your trigger though, so beware ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion's triggers go haywire as glitches are exploited!!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Going back to \].+$ then. I don't want others being able to trigger my triggers. Had a troll deliberately have me drop and sac a trivia token once that way.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That doesn't prevent them from doing so.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: !tech test
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: To prevent others from doing so, you need to have it anchored, and do not start it with a "catch anything". Essentially, you need to make a regex for whatever is in front of the first [.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I thought ^ was enough?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Is the time to vote at the beginning of line?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes. At the very beginning of my prompt.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So if you have 1234/1234 hp [* <-- then you would need to do: ^\d+/\d+ hp \[\*
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Then us: ^\[\*Time to VOTE\*\]
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Okay, if it's at the very beginning, then yes, ^ will suffice.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You wouldn't need the .+$ after it.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The possible abuse of the trigger comes when you don't anchor it from the beginning, meaning that it can show up in the middle somewhere.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Next problem: Bast's autohunt script doesn't seem to open magical doors for some reason. Anyone who knows how to add t hat feature?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: mapper cexit open east;;east
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Sorry, didn't read the autohunt part, n/m
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OK, so I want to make a trigger where there are 2 wildcards, and the 2nd wildcard will be what is set to a variable. trigger: ^\^You are certain that (.*?) is (.*?) from here | SetVariable("direction","%2") isn't working for some reason. What am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Why the \^ at the beginning?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: -n 5
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Dunno. I had MUSH automatically convert to regex and that's what I got. Do I only need a ^?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if you want to use regex, do it before you have anything in there.. 
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Removed ^\ and it works now. No clue why MUSh added an extra  ^\. Didn't even notice it 'til it was pointed out.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Trythis: ^You are certain that (.*?) is (.*?).*
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: the 2nd (.*?) isn't tripping because you made it lazy and didn't finish the rest of the phrase out
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It already works after I removed `\.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The reason why it added that is because you put regex in a field that wasn't regex, then clicked 'convert to regex'. If you start out using regex, then you need only tick the "Regular Expression" box on the side.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Mine actually won't do it, heh
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ah, I must've added the ^ manually before hitting the convert button.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Don't forget that there are several other hunt messages you may want to trigger on based on your skill in hunting.  E.g., "You have no idea, You seem unable, You are confident, You are certain, No one in this area, You couldn't find a path", etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What are the messages that start appearing at 75% and up?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't recall if it is "You are confident ..." or "You are certain ..." but it is probably one of those
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Are you trying to workaround the door issue in Bast autohunt, via your own triggers?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You considered using Starling's Search and Destroy?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what door issue?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is it an autohunt plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Bast: Your autohunt script does not open magically closed/locked doors.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: it has several features, one of which is autohunt
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: magically closed/locked doors?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sorry, locked/closed magical door.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Presumably doors that block even with pass door
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you mean doors you have to pick/knock?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It'll just keep autohunting and try to move in the target direction, straight into the door again and again. Yes, doors that block pass door.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There is no attempt to open them.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (or well, the one. I've only been back 1 day and only run into 1 of these insofar while autohunting).
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which one? because it's suppose to open them.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, 2 of them now. In Kingdom of Ahner, in the what I assume are the dungeons.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: give me the room # the door is in and the direction
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Uh... how do I check the room number?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: obviously if they're locked, you'll need the key for it to work, though. but yeah, it should auto open doors that are just closed, not locked.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: They're locked, but even if I have the key, nothing happens. So I'm guessing there are never any attempt made if the doors are locked?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ('Cause all 3 are locked)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and stop when it bouces to many times
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, it should still try to unlock them
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: mapper thisroom does nothing. Do I have to use any prefixes? I'm still very new to MUSH
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if mapper thisroom does nothing, then you're not using the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright. I'll install it now.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my website
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah. I found it.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: finger fiendish for the latest version
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So can I just overwrite my MUSHclient folder's files with the Aardwolf Mushclient package?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: works fine for me if I have the key, although the message if you don't have the key is different than what it use to be. I'll have to update the script for that.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just point the installer at your existing mushclient folder
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyway to export my triggers, aliases and variables? I assume the aardwolf.mcl file in the Aard Mush package will overwite and delete my vars/trigs/alis.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no it won't
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not if you use the installer
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alrighty
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: make a backup of the folder first, with the client closed
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: just in case
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because of that you'll have to load some plugins manually
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's weird. mapper thisroom still doesn't work O_o
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You haven't ever had the mapper enabled, and you've probably explored a lot of the mud already?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes. I only been using Mushclient for 1 day.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yuna: since you're starting from an empty world file, you need to load the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: aard_GMCP_mapper.xml?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go ahead and look at the Featured Plugins list in the sidebar on https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, Bast seems to have gotten the coordinates anyway.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, Bast seems to have gotten the coordinates anyway.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ??
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ??
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I did, and I checked the locked doors, and my autohunt plugin automatically opened those doors if I had the key
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Bast seems to have gotten the coordinates anyway. It seems the mapper plugin has an alias for tech?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper plugin does not have an alias for tech
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ?!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Testing
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ??
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ??
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what exactly are you testing?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ??
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and can't you do this on gt instead of a public channel?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ?!?!!?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yuna: what are you doing?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ?!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Testing
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Phew. Finaly. Thanks, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: next time test that kind of thing on gt 
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, like I said, look at the sidebar for Featured Plugins on https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Since you've started from an empty file, you won't have them loaded already like other people did
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: how do i fully remove plugins. I remove the bast plugins but now i see alot of such {affoff}444 etc msg when my spells go off or i recast them, or when i kill a mob
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: spelltags
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: and type "tags" by itself
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: ah, thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Use 'aard layout' to save them, see 'aard layout help'
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I'm using mushclient and just connected my computer to an external display with higher resolution where it messed up the display with a bunch of overlapping windows and black border around the edges. Is there any way to fix this without closing and restarting the  game?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You can try: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: then after use aard layout to switch, I do that, have a external monitor on my laptop and have 2 profiles
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I am unable to copy + paste from other programs into MUSHclient and vice versa. Does anyone know why this it? I'm pretty sure I used to be able to, but I suddenly can't now.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Does it work from the menus Edit -> Copy, Edit -> Paste?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: try doing it by using the context menu rather than ctrl+c and ctrl+v
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: or as Daak says
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Does it work from the menus Edit -> Copy, Edit -> Paste? Or via right-click? (Yuna was in a note)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No. That does not work.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Neither through context menus or the Edit menu.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What OS?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Windows 10
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I have a  problem with mush copy/paste also, I disabled it. It may be the case that it is disabled for you. goto the OUTPUT config dialog and make sure that the option is not unchecked.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sometimes copy/paste gets stuck for me too.  Normally it starts working for me if I restart mush.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the options is 'Copy Selection to Clipboard'
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It was unchecked. Checked it. Still not working.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, it is possible that you have the same problem we have.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Probably a plugin screwing it up. Ugh. Pretty sure I didn't have this problem yesterday.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Restart mush.  Sometimes that "fixes" the problem for me.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it could be
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Would be surprised if a plugin impacted PASTE, can you copy from an app outsid mush and paste in via menu/context?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: normally I just use the context menu to copy/paste and it works for me.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: also ctrl+D and ctrl+C work.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: as long as I have the option to the clipboard disabled.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No.slee
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so net neutrality is dead?  what does that mean now?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that you need to elect a better president? :)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: please deposit 4.50 USD for the answer.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the states elect the president :)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it's a republic, remember?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if it was so easy to remove the "obama law", would it be easy to just add it back when the next pro net neutrality person assumes the presidency?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not possible
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: no, there was no obama law, it was a fcc ruling, which has ben rescinded. What they need to do is legislate the neutrality.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I liked the fcc ruling better because it's a more flexible medium.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: if congress passes a neutrality act, it's going to be 782 pages in pig latin.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: does the president appoint the FCC bosses? So then it would need to be a pro president and sentate to confirm a pro chairman?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that's another story, Zhalut.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: seems pretty ninny for any 1 president to totally reverse everything the previous did. it's like a potential seasaw every 4 or 8 year
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: maybe this is a debate channel? :/
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can have a federal republic or a simple republic, they both operate the same way. The difference is how much autonomy do the landowners have.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: they are all republics, there are no democracies. Not even in ancient Athens :)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: did this convo move to another pub channel?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: some ppl still talking about it in imm
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It still partially obscures the bottom of the log. Which is a bit annoying.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The bar cannot be taken out outside of the Aardwolf main window.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I cannot place any of the plugin pop-up windows in MUSHclient outside of the Aardwolf World window (i.e. the "chat log", the one where all the text appears) and apparently you're supposed to be able to do that. I'm on Windows 10.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, you can't move the plugin windows outside of the main client window.  You move them around *inside* of that window
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not the main client window, the Aardwolf log window inside of the main client window.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The plugin windows are all tethered to the Aardwolf log window, no matter how I resize the log window.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If I try to drag the Mapper window outside of it, it'll go out of bounds and be partially invisible (anything not "inside" of the Aardwolf window). If I try to move the health/mana/moves/etc. bar window, it'll stick to the bottom of the Aardwolf window (right above the input prompt) and the mouse pointer becomes a red circle with a slash going through it.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: So what happens when you resize your main window as small as it will go, do all the miniwindows dissapear?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Possibly relevant: The aardwolf worlds log window does not even have the triangular button at the bottom right corner (I can still resize it).
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: yeah that is really interesting. sounds like your stuff is all jacked up
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: can you dropbox some screenshots?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: including your ctrl shit p
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Are any of you on Windows 10?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: I'm on Gnome
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: https://imgur.com/a/uliwS
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not captured because screen capture can't capture the mouse: The red circle with a slash going through it in the 2nd pic while I'm trying to drap the health bar window out of bounds
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Tried running as admin. No changes.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I... I think I know what's wrong. There's supposed to be a way to resize the Aardwolf log inside of the Aardwolf worlds window. I don't have that.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: I'm on Gnomewak
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Should be able to resize log window from bottom right hand corner
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: opps
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nope. Bottom right corner resizes the entire Aardwolf window. And bottom right corner right above prompt, where the buttom to resize the main Aardwolf window seems to supposed to be, does nothing because it lacks the triangle needed
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: have you dragged the bottom of the mini-window below your prompt?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is your window too small to display the entire miniwindow inside?  Do you need to scroll down to the bottom so that you can see the bottom of your mini-window?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What mini-window?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The health bar?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Or mapper?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: the one you're trying to resize
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You mean the main chat window? No way to drag it below the prompt. No way to drag it all.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: if you grab the top of the main window you can try moving it
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: is the layout locked?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: maybe part of your window is missing. think that's what durel is getting at
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If the bottom of the window you want to resize is off-screen below the prompt then you would need to scroll it up so that you can get to the bottom
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can move only the main Aardwolf Worlds window.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't know what you mean by locked layout.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: there's a way to lock the windows so they can't be moved accidentally, the command is aard layout lock/unlock
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And where would you input that command?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: the prompt
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: input
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, that just sends it to the MUD. There needs to be some code before it to make sure it's the client that receives the command.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: if that doesn't work then you are missing something
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: it works fine for me
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just inputting "aard layout lock/unlock" gets me.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if i type aard layout lock, it returns Current layout lock status: LOCKED 
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "There is no layout within Aardwolf".
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You may be running a plugin I don't have.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cap'n Gus Grimvald boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: do you have an alias called 'aard' ?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No. I don't understand why you think this is supposed to work normally. Anything you input into the prompt is automatically sent to Aardwolf, not the client. It is ONLY sent to the client if you have an alias for it or prefix the text with symbols that will tell MUSH to execute it as a script and not to send it to Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: YOU are probably running an alias (or a plugin that runs an alias) for the command "aard".
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: unless a plugin has it as an alias
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: for example typing mapper help all
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: gets your the help doc for the gmcp mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Found it. It was called Aard_Layout.xml
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Problem solved.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks, guys. Running aardwolf_layout.xml added the triangular button to the main Aardwolf window (and even automatically resized it to half the screen size).
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: you installed it right? really curious how it was disabled or not installed to begin with
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: i recall all those plugins being active upon installation
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yuna started with standard mush, not aardclient
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so didn't have any of the normal pluins automatically installed
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: anyone getting didsconnect alot?  my mush is closing saying aardwoldf server shut down connection
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dawsey Tech: I haven't either. I restarted mush client and it crashed on me, but that's as much of a disconnect I've had.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, I started with Aardclient. It just doesn't automatically load the layout plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The plugin was in the plugins folder, but relatively few plugins were auto-loaded on installation. I had to manually add the Mapper and Health Bar plugins too, for instance.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: within the aardwolf mush client is it possible to swap an output color with another?  dark blue text gives me headaches :/
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's a setting called Custom Colour. No idea what it does, but it sounds like what you want. Try experimenting with it?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: aight, i'll give it a go
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yuna: you did NOT start with the aardclient...you then tried to migrate to the aardclient...
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost all of your issues have been because of that very fact
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the other day, you ran the aardclient's installer on your other MUSHclient folder...however, that isn't the same as installing and starting with the aardclient...the main difference being that the installer is meant to not mess with a pre-existing Aardwolf.mcl file, which is what contains the aliases/triggers/AND-LIST-OF-PLUGINS that you have previously defined
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you never turned on most of the "default everybody-gets-them-on" plugins which define the Aardmush experience
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So if you install it clean, all plugins are loaded by default?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yes, but you'll need to reinstall any of your existing plugins.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not all, but all of the standard ones...there are a few in the plugins folder not installed by design
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'd get 2 aliases which you'd love as a zmud user...#alias and #trigger ;-)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do you know why I can't C+P into Mush and out of mush? I can C+P things in mush. Also, sometimes, I can't even copy because I'll get an error message if I try to highlight. And hyperlinks don't work either.,
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Abelinc, could you PM me a list of the standard plugins (their file names) so I can load them?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all part of the same issue...not a fully-real aardMUSH
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/mclfile
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But I could c+p just fine in normal Mush.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but aardmush doesn't use normal mush's MUD output area
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I assume it's the list of plugins at the very bottom of that page?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's effectively another miniwindow (although technically it's a special window type)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that page is the difference between what you're running and what ships in a new install
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, I see.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But I should just load all of the plugins listed at the bottom?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Basically, yes, but make sure the paths are relevant to your system.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd personally go the other way and do a real full install and move over your 3 days worth of changes
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't understand what "paths are relevant to your system" means.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: especially since you can copy/paste in all of the aliases, triggers, etc. as a whole
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Save your MCL file in a different location so you can import from it.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OK... I might do that. And no, I can't C+P, since I'm running a bootleg version now that can't C+P, remember?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're all just xml file names, no paths, because they're all in the worlds\plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I just wish there was a way to export and import triggers, aliases and variables.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you can c&p this stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are MANY ways to...have you even glanced at the window that you make triggers & stuff in?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nope. C+P:ing does not work in the menus either. Just checked.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What are you talking about? That's how I made my triggers.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> triggers...highlight all of them...click the "Copy" button...open up Notepad...paste...look at the notepad
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that the notepad window would look pretty much identical to opening up your world\Aardwolf.mcl file in notepad and scrolling to the <triggers> section...another way that you can copy them
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: similarly, click the "Save..." button on that page...note that it asks what file you want to save them to
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "Load..." button on that page would ask for a similar file
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can't even highlight more than 1 trigger. And clicking the Copy button DOES NOTHING except copy it in a way that works for pasting it inside of the bootleg MUSH client.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How many times must I say that? I can c+p stuff INSIDE the bootleg MUSH client. If I C+P (and don't get an error message when the client wants to act up) this very sentence. I can past it just fine... into this bootleg MUSH client. And NOTHING else.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I have to run now. Thanks for the help, bye.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's nothing bootleg about the client...fiendish doesn't touch the source code or compile MUSHclient...he downloads a vanilla MUSHclient and just makes "settings" changes (add plugins, set fonts, etc.)...and no settings changes would impact the clipboard of your operating system...
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Fiendish do compile code (experimental one) I think
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he gets Gammon to make changes
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: saying Fiendish just "makes settings changes" to Mushclient is like saying I just "make settings changes to 'C'"
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: forum mudinfo, note read 1750: I'm just trying to get rid of the stupid local msvcr100.dll ' suggested that Fiendish do those changes himself
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those settings changes are immense, but they ARE just settings/configuration changes...he's not changing the program...a run-a-whole-business Excel file is still just an Excel file
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: hi any cellphone expert here?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Better to ask your question.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I use mine a lot. Does that make me an expert?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: (in other words, what are you needing, specifically)?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: so this phone got 1000mah battery. can i buy like 4000 and it will work in same phone?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, if it fit the phone, sure.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a battery is very specific to the exact phone
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But it'd have to actually fit your phone. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: what about volts amps
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone would have to manufacture a 4000mah battery specifically for that phone which fits and has the same properties
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: do you have the origional battery
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: just dead?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: batteries nowadays have electronics that the phone would need to recognize...it's not just the electrical specs
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: no its a new 3.5 inch boost mobile phone
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I don't know about swapping out batteries for the phone itself, but I know a lot of people who get these phone cases that have uber tons of battery power. enough to chargeyour phone like 5 times before the case needs charging etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, go to amazon.com, google "battery <your phone model> battery"
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err except battery only once
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Byrnatha.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: ty all
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get rechargable "power packs" at 5 below
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Abelinc, I called it bootlet as in MY version, the one that's misbehaving and clearly not working as intended.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In good news (for me), the Save function for Triggers and Aliases seems to be working.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. It's not working. Ugh. I hate to transcribe everything from scratch.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I use logging in mushclient, however there are quite a lot things that seems not worth logging - especially fights and running
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: any idea how to skip those parts? that should be customizable - as for some fights like epic runs I want to log everything, also when I am in new area trying to solve goal - then I want to log everything
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can't seem to completely uninstall Aardwolf Mushclient Package. Even if I do a full uninstall, on a reinstall, my triggers, aliases, variables and other settings are retained.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Including all of the glitches my "dirty" install a few days ago brought with it.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, I finally managed to get a clean install, by installing the package in a different location. Still can't C+P into MUSHclient or out of MUSHclient, though, for some reason. Or click on hyperlinks.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Installing from scratch seems to have broken Bast's autohunt plugin. The command autohunt no longer works. Anyone know how to fix this?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you install the plugin in your fresh install?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's no longer an alias for autohunt.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you're sure what you installed has autohunt?  personally i use winklewinkle s&d which has autohunt
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's bast's bast_hunt.xml plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I could try winklewinkle's Search & Destroy.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: alias should be: ha mobname
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, ha works. Weird, before this, I'm pretty sure autohunt worked. I certainly didn't create an alias for autohunt to become ha as I copy + pasted my aliases over wholesale.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i looked in the plugin, only 2 aliases.. ha and ht
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's a mystery for the ages. Because I C+P:ed all of my aliases over. Maybe the old version I was using had autohunt as an alias? Because I downloaded a new version just now.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe you did a #alias command, which wouldn't be a regular 'alias' in the world file?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh wait sorry, that does add it to the aliases :p
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In Mushclient, where's the setting to make whatever you type into input stay after you press enter? I can't seem to find it again.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Alt-0
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Auto repeat command
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is under alt-0
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: my prompt keep disapearing after few seconds of inactivity or new lines until I type something, is it possible to prevent that by locking it down or something?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it change to "Idle"?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: it just disappear, i suposed it turns to idle yea
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the prompt is normally only shown when you type something
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you want to see it all the time, you might want to make a trigger to capture it and put it in your status line or something.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: can't be locked down to be shown all the time?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're not here and typing things, why do you need to constantly see your prompt anyway?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i am here and typing things, but it keeps appear and disappear all the time, its annoying for me
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: disappear?  its a scrolling screen
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For me it shows up every time I type a command.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: everytime i get a new line output the promot disappear, if i type something it appears again, and so on
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe you can screenshot of what you see when you say it disappears
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What he means if it doesn't redraw the prompt and if doesn't do anything, which is true and by design
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz when a new line comes from the MUD, the existing prompt should just move up about a quarter inch (as the next-higher line)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: 1. prompt visible:  https://imgur.com/a/lmc9G
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: 2. aaand gone : https://imgur.com/a/mY754
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Because you didn't type anything and are inactive
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i'd like to have it always like in the first pic, is it possible?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You just have to hit 'enter' and it'll refresh
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it's not a "prompt" in the sense that you type at it
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it IS like in the first pic...I see the prompt in the second pic...just under the comm log
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like your 2nd pic the prompt is up at the top due to scrolling
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's not disappearing at all
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: so its a scrolling problem then? can be scroll locked down at bottom then?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think you are asking if the prompt can be duplicated and displayed after every line output by the mud.  Is that really what you want?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you wouldn't see anything new
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: your "prompt" is mud output
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: all i want is to have the prompt visible all the time, but if i can't oh well :)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: you could do a Timer to press enter every so often ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nasty
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is working as designed, which is, every time you send something to the MUD, the MUD sends you a prompt as regular MUD output...what exactly about the prompt are you interested in? you have the *information* from the prompt in your status
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can have the prompt visible at all times, but you have to create a window for it and place it at the bottom. Or put it in your infobar. Or create a trigger in general.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You could acheive it via a mini-window
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he doesn't understand why his prompt is scrolling, so yeah maybe he can create a plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: but if i put it in a mini window it will be duplicated everytime i type something right?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the status bars are already there as a miniwindow, with the prompt information...
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would be replaced, not duplicated
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But not ALL information is displayed in the status.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: alright
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, depends on your prompt settings, I suppose.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try right-clicking the health bars and changing them to text mode
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: oh nice, that works
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the prompt information that makes any difference to a player not typing stuff to the MUD anyway :P
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: thanks for help :)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the health bars will work for your purpose?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: yep, its good enough :)
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is the trick to capturing a line from the MUD and then being able to echo it using the same colors?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: guess noone :) How about this one. anyone know how to map the ctrl to the command key in Mac/Wine? I wanna use command to copy instead of ctrl
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: isnt that usually the windows key?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk i dont do mac/pc mixing :(
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: exactly, we have a ctrl key but the command is 1.5x larger and used more frequently
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea you dont have an alt key right?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but you have that 4-square button (command key)
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: again, you are correct. but we can't use the command key inside MUSH/wine
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: not at all? thats interesting...
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: have you looked at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/winekeymap.html
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: well, the command key is used when accessing the file menu. i suspect it is a wine, not a mush thing
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well if your command key opens the file menu its probably mapped to "Alt"
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i did see that webpage. seems dangerous for me to use coz i dont understand it :/
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: heh, want me to look at the keyboard.c file for you?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aha, ok. it makes more sense knowing those are the subs
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: hmm. i cannot find the keyboard.c file but i do see xmodmap
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh the first link is a compiled .so
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: id try that xmodmap change first
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk this all seems like really old info
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im not sure Xmodmap is even used these days
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you do know os X is freebsd 5.4 iirc
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I did not know it is freebsd. Idk much about unix/linux. I use mac as a normal user
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=7545 <- saw this?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have X11 folders but not not an exe/app. weird
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i feel like many Mac users would want this. Seems so hard to change
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I followed the instructions from the wine page you shared and it didn't change anything. It looks like xQuartz is a sub for x11. But when I closed X11, it said it would also close any quartz programs. it didn't close wine
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i will keep searching uncle google. thx for the tips/research
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i found a ghetto workaround. In Mac, I just inverted control and command. I will have to write a script to switch the keys on/off if MUSH is open but it works for me
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jexebelle Tech: Anyone knows a bit about bitcoin mining and have 2 min to answer some questions?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: bamboo, going to watch it in 1 hour
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: What are you going to watch?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: I am not able to see powerup info, and I have it turned on, and I have info turned on. Could there be something gaging it ?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: gagging...
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: there is a nospam to turn it off in epic areas that's all i can think of
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: maybe I'm just thinking of deaths I think I'm wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I've lost the tick timer from my status bar and can't remember how to get it back.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: okay, got it back
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there any way in MUSHclient to create an if-clause? As in "if Variable xample is yes, then trigger alias doit, if variable example is xample2, then trigger alias dontdoit".
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Very much so.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: if GetVariable("example") == "yes" then Execute("doit") elseif GetVariable("example") == "example2" then Execute("dontdoit") end
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That the actual code? And on a single row?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's what you would use, unless you're using Lua variables. Make sure that your trigger is set to Send to Script, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: As far as single line, doesn't make a difference, really. You can do "if this then" on one line, the command on the next, "elseif this then" on the third line, next line another command, and then "end" on the last line.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you should really check out the mushclient website, there is so much useful info.  http://mushclient.com/scripting
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that page has some basic stuff on it, but you can browse functions, search for terms etc.  you can do almost anything you could think of in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The alias doesn't work. I seem to be missing something. I've tried both send to execute and script.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you substitute relevant info for the example?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: show please
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. I was missing a d on end. It works now. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You're welcome.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Hmmm, is there some reason the bast spellup plugin would stop autorecasting spells when I'm idle for to long?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Spellup spells that is.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you going into idle mode?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Something gets pending because it doesn't cast, so it breaks, in my experience.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Doesn't cast not as in failed, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Like navi's mental balance, it doesn't cast if the int/wis are relatively the same.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Not hitting idle mode no, the spellup recasts should prevent that.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Not a huge issue, I just tend to not notice my spellup isn't active and try to run speedwalks without levitation on. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: In Ruins of diamond reach, my portal location is between time and space, is there a way to map the exits in the mapper where the room exits are random?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no there is no way to map random exits, because its random
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: ok. thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: basically if the exits show as -1 and they are random, then you won't be able to map them at all.  because which room it leads to is random and changes every repop
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: areas like astral that have random directions but defined rooms you can make a work around
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: if i have defined rooms, how would i map them?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What do bast's broadcast plugins for MUSH do?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: sends different messages between the plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Messages where? I just assumed they'd send me pop-up messages, but it doesn't appear to be so.
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: in OnPluginBroadcast function you can catch this message and do with them what you want
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: at the begin of each one of bast's broadcasters there are examples on how to use them
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: how to resize the S&D GUI window? ( i dont get the drag pointer when i move the mouse to the bottom-right corner )
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: which verson is your S&D? 
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i may be wrong, but the starling version you can resize
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i think its the latest one from github
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: finger starling and download that version
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i can move the window around but can't resize it, ok will do
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: should work, cos i am using it
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zinji nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: which version should i get? 1.3.3 or 1.3.4?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i am using 1.3.3 and it has the resize option
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: ok, i'll try that one
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i think you should get 1.3.4 which is the latest
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: MUSH
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i've insta
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: so i've installed the 1.3.3. s&d plugins (extender_gui , mapper_extender and search_destroy) but my main map window is gone, any idea why? all 3 plugins are installed and enabled 
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you could try aardreset but it will destroy your layout. it couldbe resetaard, been a whilesince i used it
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: whats the command to reset the layout again
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: just did, map still not showing up
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: the ASCII or other one
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: the ASCII map
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i can see it on the main client window when i walk around
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: automap and tags map on?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: but i need it in a separate window
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: yes, both on
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: tried reinstalling the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i'll do that now
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i had to reinstall the whole mushclient, but now the plugins are working, another question, where is the mapper database to move it to my new client?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: Aardwolf.db in the root folder
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: great, ty!
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: since i've installed the client again and moved the database i have a small delay between input and output, like half a second on every command, any tip how to fix it?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you did move it while mushclient was closed?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i think so
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: hey guys! So the minwin scripts seems to write some X, Y ccordinates in the states files at ..\worlds\plugins\state. Even though I override those values, or delete the line, on the next plugin reload it gets overriden with the same values which positiones the window on the right upper corner. It can be moved but it's always under another window. How can I make it stay at some other coordinates?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which plugin is ^ about?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: hi Fiendish. It's Aardwolf_Consider_Window.xml
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zexe: have you tried moving the window where you want, and then going to file -> save world details?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: Hi Abe. Yes, sure I did. Every time I move it where I want and press save and close the client it would pop right behind my Communication Log window on the top right corner.
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: my mapper ninja plugin stopped working after I installed the last version of the client, all the other plugins are working except m.ninja, any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: is there a way to set an area start room with the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: not with some extra plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can make an alias inside of AardMUSH.
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: or that
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: ok thx gys
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Do 'mapper thisroom' for the room you want to use, then set your alias to 'mapper goto <roomid>'
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: What's the string to make aliases from the command line in mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: zmud it was #alias {xx} {xx}
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: #alias {alias} {command} -- use ;; to escape lines
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Ah so the same, thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Zexe - just know that your first room alias will not work with "xrt area" if you use winklewinkle
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Basic slot track plugin, not frills yet: https://pastebin.com/Y8rM1wWE
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i have problems with the S&D plugin, when i take a new campaign it loads only 1 mob in the S&D window, any suggestions how to fix it? ( happend twice so far - last 2 campaign requested)
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Does anyone have a trigger match to catch the killed mob?
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I want to get the name of mob which is killed. But GMCP is not fast enough to get the name of the mob which killed in one hit
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: There is too many death messages of the mobs so I wondered if anyone have did something like that before
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Maybe 'lastkill 1' triggered off the experience gain message
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It's clunky, but unfortunately there is no good 'mob kill' message besides exp gain
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So you'd have to trigger 'lastkill 1' off xp message, and then have a trig capture the output of that.
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Ah I can work on that. I didnt know that command! Thank you Starling!
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: np! :)
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: from twitter: How's your day going? I ran "source .bash_history" instead of "source .bash_profile"!
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: oof!
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay moving this to tech to save immtalk people some spam
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my PSU has two PCIe 6-pin connectors and two PCIe 6+2 pin connectors. GPU takes 8+8 pin power and comes with two converters that take two 6-pin connectors and convert it to one 8-pin connector. am I good here?
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that math looks legit to me
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 6+6=8 + 8 = 2x8
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: looks like one of them might be modular so it may be gone forever.
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone here using NVDA? I have a question
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've heard there's some kind of "cursor" mode
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I want to disable it
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone have a good autopotion? :P
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a heal potion autoquaffer plugin...taking that and turning it into an all potion autoquaffer was one of the first things lunk did to learn how to make plugins...but his stuff is no more
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: RIP
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: just looking for heal pots right now, being blacksmith without healing is hard :P
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast also has a potion quaffer plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: What exactly do you want the potion plugin to do?  If you just want something to track what potions you have and allow you to easily grab/consume one when you want, you could use the plugin listed in my whois.  It won't autoquaff for you though.
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basts is more of a potion manager than a quaffer, though...keeps track of how many of different pots you have, and gives you a command to get/quaff them...mine's just an autoquaffer that quaffs when your HPs go below a set %
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yeah looking for an autoquaffer
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: normally wont matter but sometimes i look away and im dead :P
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone have a suggestion for a decent video editor, all the ones i know are going pay per month and i dont use them enough to justify that right now
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: hi, my S&D doesn't load the mobs, yesterday worked fine and I didn't changed anything, any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: does S&D stores the mobs? 1.3.3 does certainly not
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: define 'load mobs' 
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: mobs from my campaing doesn't show up in the S&d window like they are suposed to
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: happened to me 5 cp ago. but everything is fine now. didnt change anything 
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: do you by chance have S&D window minimized?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: try typing cp check
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: wich version zinji ?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: which*
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: with cp check  i get the campaign mobs in the main output window, they still doesn't show up on S&D window (version 1.3.3)
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i've deleted the plugins and reinstalled them (same version) and they are working now, wierd
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Zinji: it sometimes happens if you took a gq in the meantime... only solution I found was to reinstall the plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: ok, noted
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how do you turn a script into a plugin? Or how do you load a script into mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9617 <- video showing how to make a plugin in mush
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: via the plugin wizard (file -> plugin wizard) -- but make you UNSELECT everything except the stuff you want in the plugin, otherwise it'll move all your aliasses, triggers, etc
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I pressed something by accident I think, and the squares in my mini-map inflated.  How can I get them back to normal size?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: mousewheel in and out on them
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Don't use a mousewheel
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: click in the * in upper left
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: room size (-)
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: them click upper left (x)
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Thank you:)  Room size works
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: hey all, i'm getting back into the game after about 3 year hiatus.  how do i turn off these: '{affoff}91'
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags spellups off?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it probably means you had a spellup script installed previously
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: bueno thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: yea, i think i previously was using Bast's spellup plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: still works well
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: I'll get re-acquainted before i go mucking about :p
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: if you get it again, not sure if it enables the tags, it probably does, so just remember that
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it probably does
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Welcome back then ;p but mucking about is the best part, so get to it
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyone know how i disabled mccp in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't intentionally do it, something must've crashed
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit & restart MUSH
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can turn off compression, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: there is a 'disable compression' check box.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: compress off will effectitively turn off MCCP
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: effetively*
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I can't spell today
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: You do not have compression on. See 'HELP MCCP' for information on how to get this working for you.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Type compress on
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the box was not checked
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that was the message i got when i typed "mccp"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Or ignore what I'm suggesting.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Because that's the message you get when you turn compression off.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: compress on did nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, maybe disregard, because compress on does NOT turn it back on.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, jsut realized.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: At some point, you typed 'compress off'
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd need to renegotiate it back on by connecting again
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So yeah, restart MUSH then.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait, so you can turn it off but not on? lol
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ah ok lemme try that biker
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: appears so :p
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but thanks anaristos, I didn't know about that checkbox in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, I seem to remember you could turn it back on, which is why I suggested it.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Biker Tech: I didn't know 
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh just reconnect worked without clsing
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, reconnect would renegotiate...but I know that occasionally the zlib library crashes, and for that I think you have to restart MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i turned it off heheh
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: was equating mccp with gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: derp
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to turn gmcp off
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is this the 2nd time this year you admitted that there is something you dont know?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: things like the mapper and the comm log won't work with gmcp off
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there a notary public here to certify that?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hang on, lemme switch back to Abe to make it "official"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I, Abraham Lincoln, was wrong when I said that you cannot intentionally tell MUSHclient to not use MCCP, and Anaristos taught me about a feature of MUSHclient I didn't know about :-)
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Vampire Hunter
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, me and my mighty axe
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that was a good movie
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Note that he said "Abraham Lincoln" when in all reality, he's just "Abelinc." Admitting fault by deflecting it on our former President!
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc had his fingers crossed, too
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: p.s. anaristos you turned on the triv channel and its very hard to resist doing stuff on it
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: looking for an awesome enchanter... 6 pieces
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: hm. https://www.geekbench.com/blog/2017/12/iphone-performance-and-battery-age/
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hey guys, uhm, how do i remove the page number on the first page while still having the other page numbers on the other pages
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: ms word 2016
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: On the Insert tab, in the Headers & Footers group, click Page Number, and then click Format Page Numbers. In the Start at box, type 0.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: why do i get this message when i try to xrt area name: Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: is your S&D plugin an older version? you might need to update. finger Starling or Nokfah for updated S&D versions.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: if nothing else, try reinstalling the plugins and then doing an xrt again and see if it breaks.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: So SouthWest wifi is garbage, just in case no one knew ;p, no packet loss, but 700 ping
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can someone with a Pretitle please send me a tell?  just looking to test something
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thank you kind sirs
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did someone really complain about ping on an airplane?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'll let you know how American Airlines' ping is when I fly next month.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And I'll be sure to complain about lag and stuff.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: complain to the pilot about the latency
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: as much as it costs to fly they should have an ethernet cable draped down from the plane :P
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I can't play online twitch shooters from the plane what's even the point of living
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what a world we live in
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I remember paying $1 per packet for comms via satellite
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The good ol' days, where you had to pay 10 cents per letter sent via text message...
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Imagine what your bill would be like today if that were still a thing...
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it wasn't cheap but you'd get your telemetry data from the middle of the ocean
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: those fresh memes would be so much money
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in highschool we got a 64KB hardline... it was like the fastest thing ever... '96 or something
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol, I'm thinking of 2010.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You've sent 138418103272 characters, and 42829382 emojis. Your bill is $2,283,381,521.63. Please pay immediately to avoid cancellation or late charges.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like Pai's new payment plan for throttling the internet.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: he's restoring freedom though, Turie. it has the word freedom. it must be good.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.orbitalsatcom.com/iridium-short-burst-data-sbd-monthly-airtime
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Was reading today about that, actually. In the end, it's going to hurt startup businesses more than anything, unless they could cover the costs to utilize their "fair share" of bandwidth.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Inclusive Bytes per Month: 0 Bytes
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley looks at Long Time Fiendish and screams out, "Oh My God!"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Overage (per 1,000 Bytes): $1.50
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but how much hardline internet costs around the world? i pay 20 euros for 50Mbit/s connection in estonia. 24 euro would give me 100Mbit
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: estonia is tiny
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, we also have 14 cases :P
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's much cheaper to connect a small country than a large one with distributed population and coverage mandates
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 750$ for 300/300
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: oooh traxhx. that's grazy
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: which $
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i could soon get 10GBit/s for 100 euros/month :D
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: country is small enough you just set up a residential wifi and walk away? :p
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and 20$ for more or less 50/50 (but that 50 is not guaranteed)
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: american $
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: trachx and you pay this 750 for your home connection?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: $750 for 300/300? You better be getting that speed, with 100% uptime.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any gigabit internet is wasted for residential use. there isn't a server in the world that will actually send you data that fast
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no my home is 20$, that 300/300 is real speed
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: fiendish: this 10GBit connection reguires very fast m2 and 7th gen i7 which will be at max load :D
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that's not entirely true, gigabit can still be much faster than 10/100 just not max speeds
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh I read that wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah gigabit for residential internet is pointless
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually provider sells overprovisioned connection
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so ISP has 1 GB uplink and sells 1 GB  links to 10 or more people
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and the question is can you really use it. like will it make any difference for your experience
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like the most any website will ever push at you is about 25 small b Mbps
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: call it 3MB/s
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so actually my home connection is "up to" than 100/100, byt up to I mean if I am only user then I will get that 100/100, otherwise it is shared
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those 100 or higher links are quite useful if you want to download linux image or dev tools
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you need to that just once , and after that 10/10 is good enough for daily use
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pwar, checkversion plz
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: exactly... i could get 2x better connection for a small fee but it makes no sense. 
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: at work we have 150Mbit connection, but we need it
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: at home different story
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it'd be more useful for downloading images if the linux scheduler didn't suck so much and lock up the whole machine on high disk IO
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you mean just single SATA hdd drive?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ssd
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pcie
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but those are able to do 1GB/s transfers ? how can it lock up your machine
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lots of transfers
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have no RL experience with PCIe SSDs, so far I just used raid arrays 10k/15k SAS hdds
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: btw if you have 2 or more pci-e ssds and you want to do raid-1 then is your only option software raid? or there are some hardware cards for that ?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: can anyone help me ? i'm not getting info messages and my info channel is on
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type info
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: maybe maybe you have a trigger or plugin that is omitting the infos from output
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: have you recently added anything that triggers on info lines?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check whether you have on/off clan only
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: "Your info channel is ON"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but there are subchannels for info channel
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, Newbies was off, so that's potentialy one problem solved
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: please clarify "not getting"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: but my powerups setting is ON ON ON, and i'm not seeing any powerups, including my own
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: help spam
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: Fiendish: I am not seeing the INFO messages
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes, i am, 5.06
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you have the communication log miniwindow visible?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean those:INFO: Goldrake has rid the Forest of Li'Dnesh of poachers. ?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes, i mean those, Trachx
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right-click on the communication log, go to Echo Channels..., then go to Echo Other Info
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes, Fiendish i have the coom log visibnle
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is INFO checked?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you do not see that neither in comm log nor in main window ?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so then one of your plugins consumes (gags) those lines
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: Fiendish: Info echoing is now ENABLED.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: was it not checked before and now you've checked it?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: problem probably solved
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: is this something new with this version ?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: possibly
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll review the setting defaults again
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe they're backwards
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: OK, let me see if my next powerup shows
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: YES :)
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: problem solved
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: great
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so Apple reducing the clock speed of CPUs in older iphones: does it look for a degraded battery or does it reduce the clock speed of all the older models? having trouble figuring this out based on the articles.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they say its for your own good
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: so you just agree with them
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and maybe it is for phones with worn out batteries. I'm wondering if the older models with brand new batteries still get throttled.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: apple devices are not repairable. 
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the battery can be replaced
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no!
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bro
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you CANT replace the battery. its against the agreement
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: iPhoney is what it is.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i have had Apple devies repaired. However, I abandaoned Apple several years back.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you buy new phone. and be quiet
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: but without joking. this is very bad news for apple
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but this doesn't answer my original question
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: what was it?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is the CPU throttled only when the battery is degraded or is it throttled with new batteries too
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: probably either way
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the new update of that sick os cripples your phone
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: but that's literally an educated guess
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its proven
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I googled it my goddamned self and only phones with old batteries are throttled
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: apple's new rival orange is coming, and it's everything apple is not
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nope. its the os
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the OS does the throttling but checks the battery
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: how?>
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it happens when abelinc looks at your phone
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what do you mean how
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the os knows very little about a battery
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and says: "You slow your role, yo!"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the OS knows the design capacity and the last full charge of the battery
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it may check if its from this year - that doesnt mean a thing
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: are you on a Windows laptop?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: dont defend apple. it makes YOU look bad
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: did Apple trick Microsoft into giving me fake numbers for my Li-ion battery
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: what numbers?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: open up command prompt and do "powercfg -energy"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: theres the problem - how does one os figure out if a battery has gone old?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: by comparing the design capacity to the last full charge
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: there is no way it can measure a battery
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no freaking way
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: welcome to like 2006, my man
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they argument was to prevent a shutdown or something.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: this is just stupid
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: how did Apple trick Microsoft into giving me numbers for my li-ion battery though that's so crazy I'm never buying Apple again
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if a consumer sees the battery dies too fast, he'll go and switch it.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: what apple did was just sick
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: What did they do>
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Apple passed a $1.5 trillion giveaway to rich people and corporations
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Wow. So, what does that have to do with us?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: they're selling your organs to raise the money
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: How to they get organs?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: knives
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Its not like a MacBook Pro can take yo apart piece by piece.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Or in that matter, a Iphone
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they will be smarter with XI and say its gonna last 13 months
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thats what i would do if i was jim cook
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you buy your incredible device for exactly 13 months
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Batteries are doomed to die. Theres no way around that. Theres no way to make a battery last forever. Each second, the power of each battery is degraded.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: just type "tech"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier nods
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: true. but tuning down the performance is a sick, sick move
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no one else does that
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if there was a warning - ok. but they did it secretly
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Then fabricate your own battery that interfaces with your laptop's battery connection module.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: It wouldnt be that hard, provided that all you have to customize is the connection slot.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: You could buy the battery component anywhere
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: wait what? im a consumer. gladly not Apple's
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: The microprocessor in the battery that lets the laptop know how the battery is doing could easily be transferred from a genuine one.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: So, 30 minute fix, provided you know what your doing
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: lol, you could combine a whole bunch of batteries into a mega battery pack that drains all batteries equally. The same chip could connect to all of them, letting the computer know the stats of all of them at the same time. Since all of them share the workload, it will last practically months.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: The megapack could be worn as a backpack :D
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Just make sure the current is not too much for the laptop, or its fried.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: or the radiation wont cause cancer
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: one conspiracy at a time, please
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've had iPhones since the 3GS and don't think the throttling is a big deal. it's dumb that they weren't up front about it, but that's it.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they were avoiding being equal to every other device of the same type
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: embarrassed to share the same physical laws
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: all the marketing from Apple says that they are something special and perfect... oops. the battery is the same
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I gather someone isn't getting the iphone they wanted for christmas?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: My mouse has stopped working; any tips? The batteries are charged and I can't think of anything else to try...
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: re sync them
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: should have a button on both
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Done that, still nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: any Blowtorch users know if it is possible to define and load button sets via plugins?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is a key for numpad-* ? I mean if I want to use AcceleratorTo("CTRL+Numpad8",    <-- so what should I use instead of Numpad8 ?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Add works for numpad +, Subtract for numpad -, so I guess numpad-* is Multiply
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno i look at the settings page and each key has box
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: NumpadAsterisk ?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: already got it: Multiply
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is there a keyboard shortcut to go to the next blank row in Excel?  There really should be, without me needing to make a custom macro/code
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: tab?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: ctr+direction
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ooooh nice
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I was searching for the wrong thing :P
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I was looking for first BLANK, but last filled is just as handy :)
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: ctrl+shift+arrow to select all cells between where you are and next blank
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth gallantly tips his hat to Maokai.
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thats nice trick, mao
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: anyone have any experience with HFT?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: sorry high frequency trading
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Im building an artificial intelligence in C++. :)
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: 240 here. always. we have balls
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: meh, it's silly to plug a light that draws maybe 0.5 amp into a socket that can power a multi-kilowatt space heater.  the 120 volt lines are fine for that stuff.  For the real fun toys, we use the 240 :)
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: started to watch some football. 1st thought was why are they showing fifa gameplay
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: but it was real thing
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: looks worse than the game
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I saw the following error when installing S&D
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Trigger function "process_cp_check" not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Tried turning it off and on again?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Have you tried bopping it on the nose for being a bad plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no, I threw it across the room
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That should suffice.
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Which plugin version did you try to install?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: starling's
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: also installed bast's stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: looking at some stuff on a pc to see what I like and not
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Then not sure what the issue is, unfortunately.
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: https://pastebin.com/Bhh4DuW4
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mickey Tech: anyone know where I can get a tic timer for mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: should be built in at the bottom of the screen
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Tipro, unfortunately, it isn't in everyone's installation files. https://www.dropbox.com/s/a9aeap15lj0c58b/Aardwolf_Tick_Timer.xml?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Depends on if it's vanilla or Aardmush.
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: for a period of time, Fiendish removed it....unsure if it is back
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mickey Tech: I have the aardmush but it isn't included
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: how can s
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: how can s
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: what?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: sorry, i mean the screen of messages only is gone
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what's a good capture pattern for mob short descs?  I don't want to use .+ as it can match things that it shouldn't.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm thinking something like [A-Za-z0-9] but with basic punctuation
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: depends on the context of the trigger. i'd use * because short desc could contain spaces and many words
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: then constrain the regexp with thuff either side if possible
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: stuff*
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: so i use ^You get (.*?) from the corpse of (.*?)\.$
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: gmcpdata.enemy seems to be good enough after stripping color codes
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you could extract that from con output like processing : "You would stomp $Mob$ into the ground.", "$Mob$ would be easy, but is it even worth the work out?"
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strawman Tech: does anyone know how to get room #'s using tintin?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: alright... i need help before i kill people....  i restart my in-laws AT&T DSL modem... for a variable amount of time it has a ping of under 100ms.... then it just jumps to 2400ms and stays there...  ive kicked all clients off of the network... so its not a congestion issue.... ideas?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Faulty wiring somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: this is where i dont know enough about DSL.... if it were faulty wiring, would it get to a low ping, then jump high every time it reboots?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if the wiring is screwy then anything can happen I suppose
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, I'm just making guesses here as to what the problem may be. Might consider switching out the cable to the modem.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If that fixes it, then you know the one you have now is no good.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: we shall see...  thanks for the suggestions ;)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: when a plugin crashes, why are the line numbers always wrong>
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Line number isn't wrong. Just have to know how to properly read it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: they literally are never correct
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: makes troubleshooting plugins a big pain
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: They literally are correct, just not the way you expect them to be.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: care to explain instead of being cryptic?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I would, but I have to remember the explanation given to me in order to explain it to you properly.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But there is a reason it doesn't match the way you think it should.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it says line 1555, but there is nothing of relevance there, and I added the number of lines above the lua code (the xml stuff) but there is nothing relevant there either.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Read here: I think this is the explanation that I got before: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=2437
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: A quick hack I do sometimes is to add a bad line in the plugin and check what line number is reported vs. where I know the bad line actually is.  Once you have that offset you can calculate other lines fairly easily.  Yeah, it's ugly but it does work...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Essentially, you're counting from the <script> tag, not the start of the plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you include constants.lua, you need to add those lines, too.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So if your script is 300 lines, and constants is 200 lines, and error is on line 54, then you do 300+200-54, or line 446
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Also, Durel, that's a pretty good idea. Add the bad line to the first line after the <script> tag, then offset the errors that way.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, that seems like the quickest and most reliable way I've found
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's definitely a bit quicker than counting the lines between script tags and in constants, for sure.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Well, you still are counting those lines, but we are letting mush count them for us :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Could, if you wanted to, just add a comment of -- Line 10/20/30/40, etc. every 10 lines, but...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: how long in milliseconds is one 10kHz wave cycle?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: .1?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: should be way less than that
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you know 1 hz = 1/s? :)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: oh:)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so 1/10000 of a second
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yep.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Wave_frequency.gif
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i should drink less and study more
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i wonder if lags in circuits could be enough to cause trouble with the sound. if its an amp.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: huh?  no.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the electric signals travel at the speed of light, or nearly so
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: not at all
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thats the issue
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what was the question?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: for example. i used a plugin to change the phase between 2 stereo channels. adjusting only a weeeeeee-bit, it just massively changed the sound
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you said lags in "circuits"...not lags in software processing...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's not due to lag, it's due to interference between the two out of phase waveforms
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if such microscopic change could affect the sound that much, i though this could become troublesome if the electron-flow-lag or whatever is large enough
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no such thing as electron-flow-lag...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there is no electron flow lag.  the electric field propagates through the wire at pretty much c.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: there is
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no, there isn't
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i read a blog yesterday
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that sounds like some kind of audiophool phony advice.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you read a blog...my mistake...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its about c/1000
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the speed
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that'd be funny :)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if it was an audiophool blog, disregard it.  Those people are beyond whackjobs and spout the most ridiculous pseudo-science and audio woo imaginable
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no. it was just about electrons
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mp3s degrade over time!
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: electrons traveling through copper move fast enough to travel to the other side of the globe with no discernable lag...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i cant disregard anything at this point
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i have grudge
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: actually, electrons themselves most at speeds on the order of tenths of millimeters per second, it's just that the electric field propagants at near c and so all the electrons start and stop at the same time
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: with an alternating current circuit, the electrons in the wall switch never actually leave the switch
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I did simplify that a bit...one electron doesn't move the entire way, but the one over here "bumps off" the one at the other end
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: quote from wikipedia (not the best source, I know, but this is not rocket science): 'In everyday electrical and electronic devices, the signals or energy travel as electromagnetic waves typically on the order of 50%99% of the speed of light, while the electrons themselves move (drift) much more slowly.'
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: electric signals travel at the speed of the electric field, so they go at c
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: exaclty what the blog said, Abe. and there is lag. 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not discernable lag, no
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I love reading audiophool pages though, those people are smoking a lot of ketamine if they believe that stuff :P
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as Starling just said: you don't hear the electrons, you 'hear the 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as Starling just said: you don't hear the electrons, you 'hear the 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as Starling just said: you don't hear the electrons, you 'hear' the electromagnetic field
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try having a land-line phone call from california to new york, then tell me that your circuits were lagged...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if there's any lag at all, it's due to the switch gear, anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: also, I don't think there's ANY environment in which the speed of light would drop that much (5000 times or something)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: wanna buy a pair of 6000-dollar USB cables?  Id be glad to sell you a set
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling nudges Full-blown Celebrity.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: electrons have mass. no c for those ever
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nah. i just try to get educated. see if there is something going on. thats all.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you missed the part above about the fact that it's not the electrons that move through the circuits to generate the sound, but the field
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they do move. one goes in, one gets out the other side
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: not the same one
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the funny thing it's not the same one :D
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we need xyliz in this conversation :-)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there *was* one hypothesis that all electrons are the same electron following a convoluted world line
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber rolls on the floor laughing at your antics! 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thats how theoretical physicists rob tax payers
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: that's kind of like saying all 3s are the same number
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: my 3 is definitely bigger
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no. its just closer
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: for you
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: damn, I typed the reply on that 3 times, still unappropiate for tech :D
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CDs reduce the sound quality so much from vinyl, you can no longer hear and point to where the harp player sits like you can with a quality stereo record }:>
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber looks specifically at you and goes, "NOT TODAY, SATAN!"
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: besides, he/she/it wasn't on in the last 13 hours :)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: of course if you copy a vinyl to cd
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: files stored under lossy compression are subject to degradation (12 kb/s per year) through rotational velocidensity... stick to FLACs people
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber goes ooOOooOOoo at Morn.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: those 2 things are extremely different. vinyl has crossfeed
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: cd - both channels are unique
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: toying with phase is extremely sensitive subj. this is the example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWB5PSoV2I0
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: watch somewhere in the middle, he plays normal and then the same thing in opposite phase a bit later
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: when i experimented with it, each tiny turn of the phase knob was not just noticeable. it was massively different 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: and unpredictable
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what's in the video has nothing, and I do mean nothing at all to do with the subject above (about lag)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, phase shifts have big impacts not because of "lag", but because of cancellation and augmentation
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: think sound-cancelling headphones
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: my idea (can be a complete bs of course) was that if 0.01 ms phase difference could affect the sound, the lags(if any component is lazy enough) could actually cause issues
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it's not lag there - it's one thing to mix two different signals over a signle channel, and have two separate signals on two channels
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: to have any audio impact, you'd need not one, but two conditions: 1. a SIGNIFICANT lag (which doesn't occur, as described above) and 2. different lags on the two audio channels (left/right, or more than two)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celebrity Tech: yep. thats what i wanted to know
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if it was possible to have enough difference between two channels
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: ok. another one. i have rca connectors card>amp. they are quite worn but still working. now, logically if there is any connection left between the metal bits, it should be fine
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: but the sound goes just crappy occasionally.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: rubbing them a bit makes the sound come back
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: An audio engineer is disintegrated by the dense shroud of flames! He is DEAD!
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is there a setup/font for mush that looks good for a 13 inch laptop... trying some different ones and some stuff looks misaligned
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: https://imgur.com/a/sVExV gross dust aside, what kind of cable am I looking for to plug that PCI-E outlet into my GPU? seems like I've misplaced the cord since buying the PSU.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have a shiny TP for anyone who can give me an Amazon link to something that'll work :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: help me pls i am so dumb
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded :(
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think I need a male to male connector? mostly what I'm finding is 2x 6-pin -> 8-pin converters which is not what I need.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Raded, 1 - -1 = 2. That's all the help I can give you.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you shut your unhelpful mouth
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Dude a number combined with a negative is a negative
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers with A Nimwit Bamboo about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: maybe this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0759G3MDW/ref=psdc_597260_t1_B00A3OVG4W
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: just don't google 'male to male connector'
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oh we're way beyond that
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I buy this and it doesn't work I'm fully blaming Endymion
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: https://www.amazon.com/XCSOURCE-External-Independent-Expresscard-AC773/dp/B0725B6L99/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_tr_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=F7DVXMXSA65FMQYAF329 -- Maybe that?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: https://is.gd/kONzqA -- short link better.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what even is that thing
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I don't know. I just googled pcie gpu connector. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I just need a cable. desktop PC, takes two 8-pin PCIE power cables. I have one already, but the other one is modular, and I've lost it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: https://imgur.com/a/sVExV  so I need something that goes from the red thing there to the GPU
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyway to filter internet connections down? Crap slow speed but resource monitor keeps showing a 3mb/s rate....
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I DO have one of the modular 6 pin cables that goes to three of the generic 4-pin things, so I'm wondering if something like this might work: https://is.gd/VVfUz6
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Ok...utsvcs happens to be hogging my network speed, anyway to block it?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You have Unthreat installed?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Seems to be one of those things that randomly just appeared there
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Googled utsvc and it came back with Unthreat. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Might have a virus, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Where would one usualy find that file?/Block its internet access?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Having 60kb/s dl speed when res monitor is clearly showing a total of 3mbs on network....well....
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd check for viruses first before blocking anything.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have an ordered list but there are gaps in the numbers.  How to close those gaps?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So far, windows defender has taken care of most of it....for some reason, that file is sitting in system32 folder though, but permission blocks me from doing anything to it
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I had a problem like that once. Took me forever to fix it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Couldn't do anything to the file.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Any ideas where to start?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: safe mode, login as an administrator and see if you can delete it, move it, or change the permissions
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Adding it to blocklist of firewall gonna help at all?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wonder if it is possible to add a graphic card to Raspberry Pi 3B to play Gamecube games on it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or PS2 or Dreamcast too
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Reddit tells me I should either contact the PSU manufacturer for a cable, which sounds like an ultra pain in the ass, or buy a new PSU, which also sounds annoying as hell.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i thought you said your psu had 2 6+2 (8) pin power cables?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: one is modular and has disappeared
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok but you said you have the adapter for the 2x6->8 pin adapter right? and another 6+2=8 pin adapter?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: who makes your psu?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Antec
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the non-modular is a 6-pin and a 6+2-pin
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: try calling them, sometimes you get lucky. i called MSI about a missing cable for my mobo and an actual person answered the phone
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and he was really helpful
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm also impatient and want to use my new toy. and I don't even know the right words to use to describe the cable I need :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 8 pin power cable
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just put a microwave transformer across it
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: great entertainment
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: or 8 pin power adapter
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I bought it 9-ish years ago and reddit seems to think that it has to be a cable made specifically for that PSU to work
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: sometimes you can just order modular cables or sets of them for various psu's
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: tried their website?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that's what I thought too, and I found this: https://is.gd/P3Khrb but now reddit has me shook.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: doesn't look like Antec has the cables on their site
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if both those 6 pins on your PSU are the same rail then i bet that 6 to 8 would work just fine.  are they the correct female/male ends?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: amazon.com
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: when in doubt, check if amazon sells them
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Endy: the GPU takes two 8-pins though, that's the issue. I have a 6-pin and a 6+2-pin.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyway to only allow certain apps through to internet acess?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes, windows firewall has that feature, though I haven't used it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But will need more information most likely. I just assumed you were using windows, and had a version with windows firewall :)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: Raded: look at your power supply, if theres an 8-pin modular output and it says "PCIE" then that cable you linked is what you need
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: right, your psu pic showed 2 ports - 1 was a 6+6 and 1 was an 8 right?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Kinda finding my network at 1-3mb/s but dl speed jumping between 8 and 60kb/s....quite a pain in the ass
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 12v1 is 1 rail and 12v4 is another
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Endy: yes, Kash: reddit is saying it has to match the model of the PSU
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why is lua so tarded with tables sometimes?  Hash tables store data in random order, and there seems to be no table.something to take an ordered list with gaps and just redo the numbers to have no gaps.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: does that pic match your psu?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Because ordering tables adds complexity if you don't need it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: But if you do need it
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Deleting/inserting is more complicated.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the imgur link is my PSU, the other one is just the random thing I found.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its the same cable man :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the "extra" 2 pins on the 6 would be grounds which it will share on the 8 pin side.  i doubt the current will exceed the wire capacity
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think I can do something like 'for i=1,#table,1' and if table[i] is nil, set table[i] to be table[i+1] and remove table[i+1], and so on down the list.  maybe?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Look at the second post here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=6036
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the extra pins are probably a +/- pair
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: because thats the difference between a 6-pin and an 8-pin connector
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: according to the pic both ends are black
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm it seems that diff between 8pin and 6pin is Sense and another ground - both had 3 12V pins
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alright, so do I order the cable from this random website or bite the bullet and replace my nearly decade old PSU?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: just looked at the price for that cable, damn thats expensive
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id say either or, pick one
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: amazon has 6 to 8 pin
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but will it deliver enough power to the GPU?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm leaning just buying a new PSU now.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: looks like I could get a good replacement for $50-60
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the 2 extra pins on 8 pin are not more power
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: if you got the cash thats probably best, id go full modular and single 12 volt rail 80+ silver or higher
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the 6-pin to 8-pin converters that GPUs always come with are 2x 6-pin to 1x 8-pin though.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: check this out.  pcie vs cpu power connections http://abelinc.me/pcie
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cpu would be extra power, pcie is not
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so the 2x 6-pin to 1x 8-pin adapter I could just plug in one of the 6-pin and it would work?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i believe so.  i think draining Sense to ground will make it think that its connected to an 8pin
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so any of the standard adapters will probably work just fine, but if you're going to spend >$10 on a cable it might be a better investment to upgrade the PSU
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: we also dont know what your 12V rails are rated at, vs how much your GPU needs per
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: looking like a new PSU is the way to go.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what about this lil guy https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/g63RsY
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: looks like it checks all the boxes
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what GPU you have?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: EVGA 1070 Ti FTW2
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: keeping with my habit of buying a near top of the line gaming PC once a decade then not upgrading until it falls apart
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: which is better?  Using the <send> field of a trigger to do EnableTrigger("trig", false), or calling a script function from the trigger, and having that function do it?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's a style choice, don't over think it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But generally I use send unless it's a lot of code or code I'll be resuing a lot
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the only difference I can see is that it looks like the send field executes before the called function, although I have no idea if that matters
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: easier to read without jumping around a lot
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it does, and it matters if you need to execute code before calling a function
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: that old discussion earlier. if im not wrong and messed something up, changing the phase of 2 identical signals by 0.1ms is enough to hear the sound changing.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Phase isn't really described in terms of time, anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nitpicking. im not technical with that. 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: phase difference would be given as the angular displacement between the two waveforms, in radians
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yeah. i just watched the ms counter
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It also depends on the frequency of the sound, at low frequency like 60Hz our ears are so insensitive to phase difference that you have almost no directional hearing at that frequency
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i think it was less than 0.1ms when i heard the change.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yep. i tested it quickly. too late to get too geeky now:)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: just picked a note. too tired to go full nerd now
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Describing it as a time displacement means that the angular displacement will be different for different frequencies.  Giving it as an angular displacement at least keeps things consistent and in proportion
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I still recommend only reading audiophool blogs for the entertainment value ;)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nah. it was just interesting.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: about that audiophoolery. im not one really. but at one time i had to mix and master a few songs and didn't know much to begin with. so i watched the tutorials..
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's actually the phase difference between the sound received at each ear that allows for directional hearing, pretty neat
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they made 2 clicks and said "now, can you hear, the piano sounds much blabla now".. which i din't.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: legit audio production != audiophoolery
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: but after 200 such clicks, their project sounded waaay better than what they begun with
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: so. some people hear stuff... some dont.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yep. directional hearing is pure magic. not just phase.. 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: does anyone know the max buffer length for mush's built-in notepads?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: any reason to think there is a max?  i just opened a 31MB chat log in it, and it took about 20 seconds to load but it was all there
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah vi players use a plugin which buffers mud output into notepad, and from what I hear it fills up and they have to clear it out
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I like how the help for AppendToNotepad says "You might use GetNotepadLength to check if there is likely to be room in the notepad for the new text."
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno maybe thats not what i was thinking then, not sure how output buffers to output
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: but no mention anywhere of the max length that I can find :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: notepad++ always has room for new text ;)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: facepalm :P
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I asked this some months back... is there anything like Cscope for Lua?  Something that would make it easier to trace process pathways?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In Mushclient, "Send(insertstringhere)" is the equivalent of "Send to World". What is the "Send" equivalent of "Execute"? Apparently, it isn't "Execute()"
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yes it is.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Execute("string here")
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not if the alias itself is set to Script.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yes, it is.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: In the script, do Execute("whatever") and it works.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I've written enough plugins to know.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pwar gives Crowley an award
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's weird. It malfunctioned earlier but it's working now for some reason.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No awards needed. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it's shiny though ;D
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It kept triggering my other alias as I wanted but instead of triggering the alias as an execute, it triggered it it as a send to world. But not anymore.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: my ascii mapper has disappeared and reloading plugin doesn't get it back, is there a command?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ride the Tram Tech: accidently lost my search and destroy window, whats the easiest way to get it back
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how to take an ordered list with gaps in the keys and fix it so that keys are sequential?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15706270/sort-a-table-in-lua
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err, what do you mean by fix ?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have ordered list just go through it and create new list
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the gaps in the keys break the loop though
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that isn't the info I need, thanks though
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the keys are numbers and ideally would start at 1 and be sequential, but this one has gaps, i.e. instead of 1,2,3,4 it might go 1,3,5,6,8 etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: trying to get it to fix them, i.e. the second table keys would become 1,2,3,4,5
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean you have a list  1=a,2=b,4=c so you want to have 1=a,2=b,3=,4=c ?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't understand why this isn't basic functionality in lua, table.renumber or something
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: sort of but not quiet
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the 1,2,4 would become 1,2,3
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: having 3 just be empty would cause problems
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: lua does care about whether the table is "numbered" when traversing a table sequentially 
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the best I can manage is to do for i=1,#table,1 do if table[i] == nil then set table[i] to something like {null="1"} and that does work.  I have problems filtering out all the gaps when there are a lot of them, it usually just breaks the loop
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's an ordered list, it's not a hash table.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there any difference for lua?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean try this: for k,v in spairs(yourlist) do print(k,v) end
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or ipairs
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no idea, I just know this sort of table cleanup/condensing function should be a basic part of the string library
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but it isnt so have to do myself
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if the table is "renumbered" then those numbers are unlikely to be used elsewhere except in a process-loop -- so the exercise is either to (1) eliminate the empties and renumber, or (2) renumber the non-empties without removing the empties
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and or (3) improve the process-loops so the empties don't break the loop
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i dont know much about electronics so it might be stupid question but whatever. can loudspeakers themselves could affect how the amp works?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: some hm.. feedback is nonsense maybe but.. yeah. 
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: like, if using way different kinds of speakers, can that affect how things happen in those amps, preamps etc?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://www.audiogurus.com/learn/speakers/speaker-impedance-rating/1092
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Or better yettwo completely unrelated speaker pairs side-by-side connected to the same stereo amplifier.  And they wonder why the amplifier keeps shutting off. It just doesnt make sense, they cry!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: hm.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may want to google "amp impedance speakers"
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: where do i set the slient to show the messages screen?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Chou: can you ask that question again?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: the little screen shows messages only
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: the old version of mushclient has that
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Are you missing all messages or just chat messages?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: it's more convenient to catch messages in clan channel
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right-click on the little window that shows the messages and look under the "Echo Channels In Main Window" 
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: but theres no little window shows message
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I thought you said there was
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: there was in the old version, but it's gone in this latest version
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I misunderstand, then. Can you show me a screen shot of what you see?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: mushclient downloaded from the aardwolf website
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Can you show me a screenshot?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: yes but how
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try https://snag.gy/
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Chou: how is it going?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: i cant figure it out
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Can't figure out screenshot?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: What OS, Windows?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: i did, but how do i show it to u
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you have to put it online
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: most dangerous but fastest/convenient method would be using teamviewe
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I sometimes have trouble getting teamviewer to run on my laptop
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's stupid to say "most dangerous", though.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's NOT dangerous. You just want to make sure you trust the person first.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: ima put this problem aside and leveling as ASAP and go to bed
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: suggestion: board 17, note to rhuli, new years resolution, "I will stop calling people stupid on tech".
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: see, it's so easy to play!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: yeah but i dont trust u:P
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: teamviewer is only dangerous if I'm using it
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Chou: ok. Come back when you want to fix the problem.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers with Razor about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it involves 3rd party to use teamviewer and you never know whom you have given access to your PC
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: my new years resolution is to talk to razor more, I know he's down with that
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just don't talk to him via fido
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Trachx: Doesn't make it dangerous. It's only dangerous if you're stupid and let someone you absolutely do not know or trust use it.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: that wasn't the kind of "dirty talk" I was hoping for in 2018 but at this age your standards lower.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Razor.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: plenty of 2018 left, given that it hasn't started yet :)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 2018 is already dead and gone. Let's fast forward to 2019.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you trust teamviewer company that their product is secure and does not have any backdoor in it, right ?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I trust teamviewer more than I trust me
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, more than I tell people to trust me
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, everybody trust Intel and they have put a backdoor in your CPU (minix)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: does AMD have an equivalent or am I safe?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes they do
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: gosh darn it, I need to just start making my own cpus!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also that recent HP keylogger they have put into a driver - a "debug" feature (though that actually could be just HP's negligence)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anvar Tech: hello there, playing mud again after years of absence and want to delete all the map knowledge i have from previous char, and i think there was a 'purge command' for that, but not sure what that was, can anyone help?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Why do you want to delete the knowledge?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest just downloading the aard MUSHclient fresh
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd clear the mapper's knowledge
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can delete the portals if you need to, but don't delete the map.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anvar Tech: to start anew
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: just move your mapper database elsewhere if you want to start fresh
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, the client's mapper knowledge will help you get back into things
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: then if you change your mind, move it back
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is mapper purgezone <area>
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but getting fresh install is much better idea
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't just move it elsewhere, because no mapper file is worse than the initial mapper file
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Trach is right
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just install a freshly downloaded copy of aardmush
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anvar Tech: cool, thanks for the answers, will reinstall mush!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: - 30
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley still has no idea why someone would purposefully want to lose their actual map. Portals, yeah, but the map itself is still more useful than having to remap it all.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you guys are looking at it from your own perspectives :p everyone plays differently and I think they want to start over with their map :)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Pwar.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I came back from a very long absence and if I had been using the mapper previously (go telnet!) I probably would have wanted to start over so that I could relearn each area again.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fair enough.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Benefit to redoing the mapper, too, is that you can visually see what exits are not mapped.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the purgezone command works for that without the mapper not being able to get to an area, though
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you can use the mapper for quests, but purgezone to explore an area between quests
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arist Tech: how can I reset my mush so that the group hp monitor shows up again? I'm away from home and I guess some settings goes fudged when I copied it to a memory stick.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arist Tech: thanks, that worked
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyoned
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: does mushclient allow you to add "if" statements to aliases?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Use sent to script.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: send to...
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: function(name, line, wildcards)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why do I need all three of those?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: missing the function name
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you don't need anything
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the function name is just 'function' in this case
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I dunno why you'd have a nameless function with name, line, wildcards but okay :p
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You need all three if calling the function from a trigger or alias
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if you want to feed data into it from the regexp captures, anyhow
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It'd depend on the function you're calling what args you pass to it, unless I'm missin' something
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no you don't
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: they're optional
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it will just not receive them if you don't use I think
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: an example
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can also use function bah(name, line, wildcards, style)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have two functions, the first is goto_cp(name, line, wildcards) which is called when you do 'xcp <index>'.  It sets up some initial values and then calls goto_list_item(cpList, index)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: and style will give you the style info for the line, but it, like the others is optional so you usually don't put it in there unless you intend to use styles in your func
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're not using the name, the line, the wildcards, or the styles, then don't put them in your function
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: for some reason I feel like that always caused errors
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I usually put name line wc in in case I do use them later but it isn't necessary
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I guess I'll find out
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: only if you try to call if when its not there
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua doesn't care if you pass too many or too few arguments
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: function myfunc(a, b) print(a, b) end; myfunc(1,2,3) --> prints 1 2
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: function myfunc(a, b) print(a, b) end; myfunc(1) --> prints 1 nil
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua doesn't care
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: when I remove name and line, 'xcp 4' doesn't get the 4, so it defaults to 1, as intended when no number is given
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you remove the name and the line then you can't pass wildcards
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the names don't matter. the positions do
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's what I meant when I said "I need all three"
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you don't need all three unless you want to use the third one
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you didn't say anything about wanting to use the third one, but since you say you want to use the third one, then yes you need at least those three
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, it doesn't have to be those three, it can be any three
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you could even call it elsewhere using function(nil, nil, wcdata) if you wanted to
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is super common
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is the advantage of using local functions?  Does local func = function() Execute("x_ht " .. localItem.mob) end  do anything advantageous, compared to just calling Execute directly?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in the plugin body, nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just trying to understand what his intent here was
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: only creates it inside the local scope for less mess elsewhere
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in an imported module, it creates a scope barrier
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean...it always creates a scope barrier
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the top level of your plugin is basically global as far as the plugin cares
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you could make a local function inside of another function
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah like say you put a local func inside a function though, nothing outside of that function can access it
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is there a speed advantage to it?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in this case it sounds like the original author was trying to make something that could be passed around the code
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: writing the code, yeah, but not execution wise or anything
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: two function calls will always be slower than one
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I feel like a lot of the code in these scripts is more complex than it needs to be, but I hate to just rip it out without understanding what it's actually and/or supposed to be doing
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: turning off tech for awhile, Merry Christmas you guys :D
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it'd be faster to punch yourself in the face and then start from scratch than to figure winkle out
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And that's why stuff gets rewritten from the ground up so much.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: e.g. xcp_line_end trigger seemed to not make sense, until I looked up what ?! in regexp means.  Then it made perfect sense.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hell, I forget how my own stuff works and have to start over sometimes :P
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you trying to fix something specific or just torturing yourself for fun?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mainly trying to learn better Lua, but the problem solving and fixing is fun too
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: except when it isn't
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: robbo
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is the difference between declaring a variable at the global level with variable_name = "x" versus local variable_name = "x" ?  
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: both are inaccessible from outside the plugin except via callplugin and broadcastplugin, right?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That just changes the scope of who can access the variable.  Using local is "cleaner" in a lot of cases so that you don't mistakenly use the wrong variable.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It also makes it easier to handle things like co-routines so that you know who is accessing what 
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: For example, I use "retval" to store the return value of functions.  A nasty bug involved me not making retval local in two functions and they were mucking up each other's values.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why are they called 'wildcards' ?  Why not 'arguments' or similar?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Because arguements implies passed after the command, whereas wildcards can be anywhere on the line wherever you put the wildcard?  Just a theory
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: regardless you can name what you want
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I thought wildcards were just a type of parameter.  Historically I think (don't quote me on this) that they were parameters with variable number of entries
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Arguements are also another name for values passed to functions.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: regardless of what you name it, your captures will still be the 3rd argument in a table
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: so helps avoid confusion!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i call them args, because they are passed to my function :p
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I very have reason to refer to them...
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: very rarely...
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: local at the global scope has no effect
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: local anywhere else restricts access
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wildcards aren't called arguments, because arguments are typically values passed into functions or methods
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they might be called wildcards because it's possible that nick implemented his basic glob matching before adding regex support
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and the * in his basic matching is a wildcard
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a more general term might just be matches
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the really important part is that you can call them whatever you want
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I disagree
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because the name doesn't matter, only the order matters
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: but maybe I'm just being argumentative
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I like turtles
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What kind? Sea turtles?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You should learn to program in logo then
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: you aren't supposed to respond, you fool!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hey Starling, you might want to lbid 83056
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hmm?  how come?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh never mind, that was a sold notice.  It was for an aarchaeology piece called 'a wild card'. I was being a smartass.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh :)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Only I messed it up, so I guess I was a dumbass instead!
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: on blowtorch how do you extract room vnums?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: from the commandline...
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't think you get gmcp data on blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: we can allegedly get gmcp dsta but the how is what bamboozles me
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: not allegedly, factually
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: oh, blowtorch. Sorry, I wouldn't know.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can ask Fiendish when he is on.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: might be fact but finding details of how to do it make it allegations
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: from the documentation I just read GMCP is planned for the next version.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So it's not factual yet, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: ny answer referred to this client I already siad that the statement was not correct.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: en espagnol?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: blowtorch development seems to have been dropped, so not sure if or when a next version will come
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's a blowtorch gmcp mapper on github, it mentions GMCP needs to be enabled in blowtorch.  not sure how its not there if it can be enabled
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're running a 2.x beta blowtorch, it has GMCP
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: the last version does support gmcp, it doesn't bomb if you send a request, it's just making it human readable that i need
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have they fixed the forums yet, or are they still erroring out?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: that plugin by blockda on github isn't completed
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz that was the big issue with trying to look up those answers
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, I wonder if Fiendish could rework the code for group window to resize automatically based on number in the group.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Dynamic resizing would be pretty neat.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, there's a field value for how many in the group, so should be doable...but I'd imagine it would need to be toggleable as some people want to control the size/position of their windows, and wouldn't want them dynamically changing because of whatever would then be blocked out
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd be fine with toggling it.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to make MUSHclient display a pop-up window that will bring MUShclient to the front oif my desktop? Like, if I'm on Chrome and with MUSH in the background, but on certain text, MUSH will trigger a trigger that brings about a pop-up window to bring MUSH to the forefront + a small pop-up window with text. 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess client need to be written to support such events
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So there's currently no way to do this?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think you could use utils.msgbox to force a popup.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not sure.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nope, doesn't steal focus.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Darn
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try world.DoCommand "AlwaysOnTop"
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It'd be DoCommand("AlwaysOnTop") rather, for Lua.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But that doesn't work, as it keeps MUSH on top of everything.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Although...
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You could do "AlwaysOnTop" and utils.msgbox to send the command again and remove the AlwaysOnTop.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you can "undo" it afterward, but was curious if it'd be triggerable to bring it to the front
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That, it does. Just tested.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So trigger on the event to send: DoCommand("AlwaysOnTop") and then the utils.msgbox to remove it or something.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nice find there.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So, let's say I want a trigger that does this with the text "Aardwolf", what would be the complete code, complete with turning alwaysontop on and off?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Give me a few, and I'll write it up for you.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks, man!
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So in the trigger response, you want this: DoCommand("AlwaysOnTop") -- on one line, and then: if utils.msgbox("Triggered!") == "ok" then DoCommand("AlwaysOnTop") end
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can change "Triggered!" to whatever you want it to be ("Quest time!", for example), but there's your code.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if you mean fmudq req
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, I see "Triggered!" and just think current "PC" stuff :P
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: I've been looking for a service to purchase movies and download them to my PC. With the data caps they're enforcing on most ISP's now streaming high def is not really an option anymore. Does anyone have any recommendations? My requirements are 1) downloadable to PC and 2) playable in any video player.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: iTunes? Amazon?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: Amazon doesn't allow PC download, checked with them. Trying iTunes now. It doesn't look like the files are playable in VLC. 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm just throwing out guesses, though. :\
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: I've spent 200 dollars so far buying videos on different mediums. FandangoNow doesn't download, and the app doesn't work on my ipad anyways. Vudu downloads but is DRM'd from one end t othe other and requires third party app to play.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The problem is finding DRM-free digital downloads, which you most likely won't find from reputable sites.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: That's exactly what I'm afraid of. This is why I had no issues pirating the movies before, and I really don't want to spend the time ripping them from disk. Trying to go legal with everything, but they make it a pain in the rear to do so.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just download torrent and legalize it by buying from some digital provider with DRM ?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you're wanting to stay legal, then you're pretty much going to be locked into whatever player they force you to use to watch their content.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You could always do Netflix, but the quality there probably isn't what you're looking for.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: the problem with download from torrents is the monitoring they do. If they get a license warning you get 3 warnings here and they shut your internet off, legal or otherwise. 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: I have netflix, however, a lot of what I want is not on netflix
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: and again, that's streaming which used data.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use VPN for downloading
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: when you consider the data cost added in, isn't it still cheaper to by a dvd and get it delivered?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can download in Netflix now. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: dvd is not portable on multiple devices, and I have kids, the last thing I want is to haul dvd's on vacation to get lost/scratched vs load a tablet with 4-5 movies and be fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And yeah, using a VPN will help protect you from those license violations.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Check out tech board for a lifetime license to Ivacy.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: $29.99, can't really be beat, and it's pretty good so far.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: actually i think I just found a solution
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: took my itunes video, ran it through a trial of M4VGear, and it removed the DRM.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: There you go, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: how do you turn specific gmcp optons on. when i do a protocol gmcp it only has char on
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i have mapped 2 portals to prosper island, but everytime i try to get there my plugin use only the lemdagor entrance portal, all 3 portals are in the mapper database, any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: It's looking for the fastest part to the "first" room of the area, which is going to be the Lem-Dagor portal.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Fastest path, too.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: but the mobs i need are in prosper island, and i have portals mapped there, aren't they suposed to be the fastest?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it will use one of the other if you run to a specific room (rooms cp o gq) or after you identify the room for the mob
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: By default, the marked first room of Prosper Island is the first room of Sycorax's ship. You can change that by, say, going to the Hotel Royale and doing xset mark there
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ab Domen nods at KitCarson.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: does anyone know of a disarm script?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: so update on the conversion thing, kept the quality, plays just fine. Super happy.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: conversion ?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: conversation from about oh..30-45 minutes ago
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oh yeah... videos :)
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: yeah. The program I found worked very well, so it looks like I found my solution. Buy on iTunes, convert to non DRM format.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I checked that ivacy deal, and there are more lifetime vpn deals on stacksocial
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so hard to choose which one is best
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC Russia has the law that all network connections have to been logged, so if there is a VPN provider that offers servers in Russia and has "zero log" policy - either their server is not in Russia or they do not really have "zero log", right?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: those cheap lifetime deals on vpn seems to indicate the "lifetime" on vpn may be coming to an end or something
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the per-user cost of operating a vpn is basically 0. Pretty much amount of money is enough to be profitable.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any amount
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, still if I have to pay 40$ for PIA or 40$ for lifetime vpn.asia - choice is not so obvious
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: on one hand - lifetime is paid only once, so if all buy lifetime then provider do not get more money
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and to maximize its profits they do not invest in their infrastructure as it costs
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH if that "lifetime" will last over a 1 year then I save 40$ yearly 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lifetime is paid once per business closure
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is best bare-metal backup/restore software for linux? dd? dump?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: tar
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: in a script, can I use the Send command to send an pre-created alias?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A mushclient alias, via Send()? I don't think Send is parsed
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use Execute() instead if you want it parsed
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well then, apparently you do not want to do print(os.date("%r", os.time()) because it'll crash MUSH...
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Interesting.  It looks like any unsupported date option (e.g., "%r" or "%s") will crash mush.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, didn't realize it was unsupported until I tried it. :(
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh well, %I:%M%p it is, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Now to write a function for cardinal directions based off degrees.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmm any reason why this should not work? DoAfterSpecial (1, "UnloadPlugin(GetPluginID())", sendto.script)
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ahh nvm I realize my mistake hehe
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: anyone know why search and destroy only show me like a couple targets on xcp and not the full list?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: have you killed them already?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: no... just cp requested
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: shows me 1/11 mobs...
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm surprised and disappointed there is no inherent math.round function in Lua. :\
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: my mush client wontco nect to aardwolf. says Unable to connect code = 10060
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: i have internet and did resestart already
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: check your firewall settings
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: sounds like your fw may be blocking mushclient
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: aye how do i check that
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Crowley: function round(num, numDecimalPlaces) local mult = 10^(numDecimalPlaces or 0)  return math.floor(num * mult + 0.5) / mult end
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pwar: Yeah, I'm just surprised it's not inherently included.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pwar nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: rokshel what version of windows you on?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd just go function round(val) if val - math.floor(val) >= 0.5 then return math.ceil(val) else math.floor(val) end end
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: this is strange it is blocked on my laptop and desktop...wth
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: no changes were made
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Do you have a VPN you could use just to test if your ISP is doing something evil?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: no vpn and yes internet working fine
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: is it possible to connect BT headphones to a ps4....i think it's a ps4....
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty sure you can.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yep, it's a ps4
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Have to go through Bluetooth Devices.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: 10060 is just a connection timeout winsock error
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And check to see if you can connect. My Vita can.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you might just have no route atm to the server
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: (routers down in between you an aard)
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: man how unlikely is that?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: very likely?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: pretty unlikely if your in the states
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: try opening a windows terminal, and telneting directly into the mud to see if it's a network or client issue
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he should do a tracert
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: which would show if the route is down :P
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: telnet would also check to see if port is blocked
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I dunno why you guys think it is unlikely a route would go down, if anything happens at your isps first hops even, your route is trashed
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: because he's in the game chatting in tech channel....
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: on his phone or something? or in his client?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: it's most likely client side issue.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could also try connecting to the IP address directly just in case your ISP's name server is down.  aardwolf.net = 23.111.136.202
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: how is he connected to the mud right now??
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: can also try configuring MUSHclient for other ports.  "also runs on ports 4000, 4010, 4444 and 7777"
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: instead of making random assumptions and throwing 300 instructions at him based on random guesses, you should probably collect more information from him first
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you don't even know how he's connected currently
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: i have updated mush in a long time maybe the old client cant get on
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Any version of mushclient in existence can connect to aardwolf. Some will have more features than others, but they should at least get a connection.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's a 'clear cached ip' button maybe its got an old ip stored
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if someone else tells him that, does it mean i'm bypassing ignore list?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hehehe
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: yea im on my phone using data not wifi
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ding ding ding
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: your isp's route to the server is down
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it will probably fix itself over the next few hours
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: but the wifi does work for everything else
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can try resetting your home router and cable box
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I understand that
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: on your desktop try "tracert aardmud.org"
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you connect to other things on your desktop?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: yes listening to pandora
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe he's got a 120 plugged into a 240?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: i tried changing from port 23 to 7777 it didnt work
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: what do you get from a tracert?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What address are you using to connect?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: tracert aardlf.com got connection until 6 and then said timed out
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Traceroute to aardwolf tends to be useless as at least one of the hops typically found doesn't respond to ICMP but still passes traffic
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: did you let it finish? or did it stop on it's own after the timeout?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: from the cmd line try "telnet 23.111.136.202 23"
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: telnet is not recognized as an internal or externL command
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: "pkgmgr /iu:"TelnetClient""
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: use that to install telnet
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Jesus no, just stop
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You know you can get to Aardwolf via your phone. Tether your PC to your phone, connect via it. If it works, you know your software is fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: unfort my phone doesnt tether
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: software should be fine i was just on with laptop at another house
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: but here at home pc desktop and laptop cant connect
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: rokshel, when was the last time you connected to aard from your desktop, on your network?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: can you run "ping aardwolf.net" from the command line?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If it's more than one computer, then I'd say it's definitely your network connection or firewall.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: maybe abelinc suspended net neutrality at your place
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you can't ping that, try "ping 23.111.136.202".  If that works when the first ping doesn't work, then it's your name server
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: ping aardwold.NET was 100% loss request timed out
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, that's great to know.  It's not your client.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: try aardmud.org
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or an actual IP address, in case you are not able to resolve names
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: request timed out
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: which timed out?  Using the IP address or using aardmud.org?  Sorry...it's hard when several people are offering advice at the same time :p
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: ping aardmud.org request timed out
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, try the raw IP address: ping 23.111.136.202
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and what about the IP address?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: i can go to all sites but not aardwolf.com or aardmud.org the route is messed up
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: ayla i pray you fix it now i need to lvl
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: because aard hates you
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: rokshel, it may do nothing but try: "ipconfig /flushdns"
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: bast plugin keeps spamming error , trigger function "gq_item" not found or had previous error. 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: how do i get rid of it
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: if it's bast, you want to go to plugins and unload miniwin_gq
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yuna: Are you able to load the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Excellent.  Let me know if you have any trouble.  The helpfiles are pretty extensive and give lots of examples to get you started.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: However, if on the github.com/aardurel/aard-plugins page I right-click aard_iventory.xml and choose "Save link as..." I will consistently get a 5.29 mB file. For some reaosn.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: pretty extensive is an understatement on the help files ;D
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: also confirmed mine does the same thing
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: my isps routeis bad i cant reach aardwolf with my pc. im on phones data
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hmm.  I usually use git to access it.  You may need to use the download button to get the actual file.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well go to https://github.com/Aardurel/aard-plugins/blob/master/aard_inventory.xml (that's the link you're saving
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I already figured out how to get the "proper" version. Click the link, click the RAW button, save the xml file that's opened.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it's not actually the xml it's serving you github's viewer of the xml
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that's where all the extra data is coming from
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, that downloads an html file, not the actual xml plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I hate how unintuitive github is.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, me too :)
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: bast crap did it again on joining a gquest
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: the plugin is disabled even
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If the plugin is disabled, it couldn't do anything.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gq_item is part of winkle mapper_extender
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or some of them at least
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: should i just get rid of all the crap plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i really dont need it telling me there is an eerror after every line coming from the mud
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what version of S&D are you using?  It sounds like an older, buggy one.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its because a trigger failed, so anything matching will throw that
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: reload mapper extender
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: what trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: just give up on trying to ever do a gquest
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I cannot seem to get "dinv keyword add -insertkeywordhere- rloc -insertnameofbaghere-" to work.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Using the aard inventory plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: When you say it doesn't work, can you be more specific? Do you get an error?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No match found for keyword query: "rloc 2.bag"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It appears to have a problem with my bags. It only works for 1 of my bags for some insane reason. The rest dinv cannot recognize.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just did: dinv keyword add collectable rloc 3.bag
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The command only works for onbe of my aard bags. Neither vladia's bag, the aarchaeology collection satchel or my other 2 aard bags will work for this. I even tried dropping the bag it works with so one of my other bags would become the "main" bag it still didn't work o_O. Let me try just switching the items inside of my "main" bag and see if it'll work
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rnnhrr Tech: Haven't been on in a while and found a new portal room. How do I tell mapper that an exit is level locked?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can right click room in mapper window
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: left click on the room at the mapper window, and change exit level lock
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: or right click. my mouse butts are reversed.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rnnhrr Tech: Got 'em. thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: im so lost on how to get plugins added
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: extract into your mushclient/worlds/plugins folder then ctrl+shift+p click Add and select the appropriate .xml file for the plugin you want to load
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: is there a list of all plugins in one spot ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh :p
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: not really no
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: default is mushDir/worlds/plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but they can be loaded from anywhere
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the plugins dir is just a repository, it does not load all in that dir
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: technically it's the designated mushclient plugins folder, so if anything references GetInfo(60) it points at the plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so if anyone's plugin wants to know where you keep plugins, that's what it thinks
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: eh there's no reason why another plugin would reference that dir against another plugin..  theres GetPluginInfo
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: because it returns the default plugin directory, just because you don't see why someone might use something doesn't mean it's not the right way to do it :P
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i cannot imagine a scenario where another plugin wants to reference yours, requiring that directory, but does not look it up and assumes its default :p
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: then you must be unimaginative :o
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: maybe your own plugin wants to use GetInfo(60) to scan default plugins dir and retrieve info about them
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: info such as?  if its not loaded...  if it is loaded then use GetPluginList and GetPluginInfo
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unless you want to do some boring reading? :)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: what folder does it open to to load a plugin when you hit ctrl+shift+p endy
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: GetInfo(60)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure but you can navigate, that's moot
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its easier to load if its there, but theres no other technical reason for it
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that *is* a reason in itself
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: sorry to start a war
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if you want to make things more confusing for the end users that's just dumb, I can see using a subfolder of plugins but beyond that
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im not saying that
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im saying, average joe actually downloads a plugin to "downloads" in windows then loads from there.  just my assumption i guess
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: someone super organized might copy it to the plugins folder, but i've seen remote desktops where that is not the case about 100% of the time
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that is an awful mindset to have because if you're not providing proper install directions and they do things like that what happens when their downloads folder gets wiped?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: how do you troubleshoot with someone when they don't even know where they loaded their plugin from
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you're twisting my example.  i'm saying theres no reason it needs to be "there" not it is "good to be in downloads"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pwar boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: and I'm saying it's best practice to put it in plugins or a subfolder
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok well best practices are for programmers not users.  good luck teaching all the users.  in reality, scanning the default directory as you suggested has no value.  but i dont want to argue with you man, cause i agree with you to a certain point :)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: not teaching people where to put there stuff makes it nearly impossible for them to backup all their mush stuff in one go
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: their*
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you say it has no value but how can you know that for a plugin that hasn't been created?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im saying the directory of plugins, assumed to be the only repository, has no absolute value.  if the user has, say, another directory they store theire requiered or favorite plugins for example.  if a plugin, yet to be made, scans that directory for something valuable and comes up empty because the plugins aren't there, then that plugin sucks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: assumed to be the *default* repository, which it is
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I'm done though :P
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no dude lets duke it out! :P
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pwar rolls his eyes, disgusted.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: what would you guys suggest for a good printer that does not suck a lot of ink
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why ink printer ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: inkjet is the cheapest type
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: because i may want to print photos or something of color
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://www.lifewire.com/best-photo-printers-to-buy-4066817
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i cannot imagine a large difference between ink consumption unless its color only with no black cartridges...do they even make those?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could consider solid ink ones if you print infrequently
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i dont get what im doing wrong to get plugins loaded
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: Line   42: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it's a plugin you downloaded ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: bast zip extracted stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: and winkle search and destroy
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: it gives the same error for all of them , i just downloaded mushclient too
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: so you downloaded he zip from github using the big green button, I suppose... that error usually happen when you download the plugin the wrong way...
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: did not use green button , i left clicked on the file and save as... to desktop , then moved files to the plugin folder
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: that's it :) use the 'clone or download' green button, and choose 'download zip'
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: so use the green button or dont use the green button which is it
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: USE it... when you click it will appear a drop with 2 choices... one of them is 'download zip'
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: same result
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: curious... you sure you override all the xml you downloaded manually with the one you extracted from the zip downloaded from the button ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry... no clues... in my experience that error only haoppens when you manually download the xmlfiles... 
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: ok , i got rid of all aardwolf files and plugin downloads and started all over , stil having issues , plugins will not work
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: Line 1827: Error parsing script (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is the easiest way to virtualize working system?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean I have Win 7 , but I'd rather use some linux distro, but somehow I need to virtualize my current environment
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: virtualbox? 
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: you could put everything on a disk and mount it from your virtualized windows
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: but there's no good way to transfer a physical system into a virtualized one
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that VMware is one of leading solutions, and IIRC I can use if free
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: if you have wmware, then use it. it is much faster compared to virtualbox
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: There are a few solutions for P2V (physical to virtual)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I need to reinstall, OK
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for home use if it is not trivial, no point to do such conversion
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: true.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: you'll get thumbs up from me if you forget windows completely :D
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I can just get some linux distro and then create VM
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I need windows for work and to run mush
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: Is it possible to dd the physical into a dd image, and then ask vmware to mount the dd image?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mush runs fine on wine
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: The machine I'm playing from right now was P2V'ed, actually... but it's Linux, and you can do that without any partcularly special tools.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but running virtual windows will never be as fast
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: vwmare has vCenter Converter, but I doubt that one is free
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: have you picked your linux distro?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, I use Windows for Word and software development, most CPU / memory greedy app is firefox
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so 10-30% lower performance is not a problem
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either CentOS or Debian
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am a manjaro guy myself. i used to run arch but it is a real pain to set it up. i use multiple desktops
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: at work we use CentOS/RHEL , but considerin how hard it is to update RHEL based systems Debian is much better
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, and debian stable is rock solid too!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: will virtual Windows get access to USB devices? I mean crypto cards reader
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also I remember that in past linux had some problems with suspending system, as I do not turn off my PC but just put it to sleep, that feature is quite important for me
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: never heard of it... perhaps in the past
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, it was maybe 10-20 years ago
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does Manjaro use systemd ? or is still init based ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: systemd... but it makes no difference what so ever
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: manjaro is arch based
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Getting much harder to avoid systemd.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but as far as i am concerned, it could use fresh tomatos for booting. as long as it is booting
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Also of note ... <3 Arch.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one nice feature of systemd is mount on access feature, except that I prefer init.d, much easier just enter /etc/init.d and restart services
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am just a linux user. do not know much about sysadmin stuff... i do not webserver configuration at work but this is far-far-far from bootlevel stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH when they introduced LVM I also did not like that approach
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but I still think that accessing /dev/sda3 is much simplier especially if you want to do dd if=/dev/sda3 of=backup_sda3
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: If LVM worked as well as it did on AIX, it would be spectacular.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I use it for servers, but generally not worthwhile on workstations
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if I want to encrypt hdds then should I use truecrypt or loop encryption?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my main concern with encrypted hdds is that in case they are stolen or damaged (and need to be returned for warranty replacement) there is no problem with data on such hdd
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: before i invest more money in crap i dont need, anyone have any experience with google wifi (their mesh thing)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: never heard about it. what does it do?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not reviewed favorably by https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-wi-fi-mesh-networking-kits/
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Fiendish, thats what i was looking at too... but most complaints are around the routing function, which is the root of my question... i want to know if i can turn routing off in the latest version and use my own router
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not even looking at any comments or complaints, just the graphs
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: ahh, yeah
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i am honestly looking at the linksys... but iw anted to talk to someone that had the google first: https://www.linksys.com/us/p/P-WHW0303/
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check whether you can flash it with community firmware
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does Linux fully support NTFS ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Most distro's do
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: except when you have to deal with errors on the disk, then linux struggles because it can't run the proper disk check software nativelt
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: when making a regular expression trigger, does the colon require an escape character before it ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: anything not a-z or 0-9
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and even those you can escape if you wish to
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: how would you denote a variable amount of white space ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: in regex? \s+
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: zero or one s? zero or more s* one or more s+
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: \s means any whitespace, + means one or more of the preceeding
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: try regex101.com for testing
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: that looks interesting
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok it seems to work in that website, but not in Mush
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: you could try [ ]+
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i'm trying to capture a room name from a direction
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: are you worried about custom exits?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: the text to be captured in this case is "North          : A Comfortable Abode"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no, Ylar. Not worried about custom exits
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that the website is checking whether it'll match, not whether it'll capture what you want...
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: how about: "^ (North|East|South|West)\s+\: (.+)$"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and make sure you have the box checked in MUSHclient telling it that you want to use regular expression matching
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would capture lots of spaces
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, sorry, I'm wrong, I was looking at the " " rather than the "\s+\:"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes, I do have regular expression checked
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: I only want it to match on North
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: "^ North\s+\: (.+)$"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then just change the north|south|etc to just North
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I can't think of a scenario where that's a good way to write the trig (limited to just North)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: sweet, that works now :)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: If one is being done for each direction, I suppose? Might be simpler, in some ways, then triggering on all and conditionally triggering commands
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't be simpler, because if a particular direction doesn't change, then it's not a maze...if it's not a maze, then you shouldn't be triggering on an exits output anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I meant versus an if/case block.  We're just guessing, anyway :)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I just process OnPluginLineReceived lines for that
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i'm not smart enough to do plugins yet
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins make most things hugely simpler
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: just starting out with lua scripts
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your scripts can probably be half the size and twice the efficiency when in a plugin, because you're not screen scraping everything
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so SendNoEcho("exits"), process_flag = 1, then in onpluginlinereceived if process_flag > 0  do if words[1] == "[" then flag = 0 (end), if words[1] == "Obvious" then process_flag = 2 (next lines are exit ones), if flag = 2 then process exit
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: where is a good site to learn plugins ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: they do not really differ from triggers/aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just look in one of your plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just use OnPluginBroadcast to trigger on GMCP's room.info.exits north equalling 12345...or use OnPluginBroadcast to trigger on GMCP's room.info.num equalling 54321
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using GMCP via OnPluginBroadcast will totally revolutionize lots of what you're currently using triggers for
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that won't work in partroxis maze
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neither will triggering only on North ;-)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I send exits and allow script to examine those exits, then it just shows valid exits
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean I know what room I am like 5775, I also know that I need to use "the wheat fields" exit
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so the plugin just shows me those dirs that contain that exit, then I manually choose which one I should follow
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that way I do not have to remember that while in room "a cave" I should pick "the wheat fields"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's a good way to do that one
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it just filters wrong exits, and shows  Obious exits......: North         : the wheat fields     Up: the wheat fields
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so my alias sets a flag process_exits and send exits command, then processes all lines from Obvious till char "["
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorlos Tech: I updated my mushclient, what file do I need to move over for all my map info from the old client?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorlos Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish groans loudly.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fiendish: Can you add a toggle for dynamic group window resizing?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Realizing that not everyone wants this, I'd see it as a toggle. But would love for the group window to resize automatically based on how many members are in the group.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: up to how big, though?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Suppose you could add a "max amount", too. Otherwise, as big as the number of members in the group.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what would the default columns size be?  what about keeping it on the screen when bigger, or moving it a dir when it shrinks?  i guess i see too many variables to see value in an auto resize group window
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I do. It's a lot easier to see who needs immediate attention when you can see the entire group rather than trying to figure it out by resizing it.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Useful in epics, at least.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think sorting by HP would be more valuable, but to each his own.  i just resize/move epic window when it starts and leave an extra row for more joins
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sorting by hp would then need to be run constantly.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you know, like a year or so ago I heard from someone that someone had made their own super secret private copy of my group plugin customized for epics
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe more than a year
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and I don't remember who it was, but I remember asking them at the time if they would consider sharing it with everyone
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and they said yes and then didn't
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh i modified yours, but i dont think it was me
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: shit i put in an option to remove mana/moves before i realized you already had that, which is pretty sad
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oops on profanity :/
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorting wouldn't be terrible
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not terrible, just constantly changing. Would be hard to keep track, I think.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes, it could
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i put in sort and a compact mode which slims it down and removes some info
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: compact?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it removed like qtimer tnl and numbers i think, just showed bar
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im looking for it now, forgot about it when i updated mush to 5.02
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: see, people do all these things
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And nobody contributes the code back
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd merge a compact mode toggle that removes lvl/qt/tnl and puts  the name on the same line as the bar
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you submitted a pull request
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i never really thought to submit a change. and i dont remember you being around much back then, or maybe i just didnt realize you were
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i shared it with people and wasnt keeping it a secret or anything, but i didnt put it public because i didnt want to hack up your stuff and re-offer it
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, if you still have it around somewhere
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: here's how it started, then i resized the title bar to match and 2nd pic shows entire epic group.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/u6vs6z11pr6qk2g/group_comparison.png?dl=0  https://www.dropbox.com/s/wh5n07i2exlw40x/group.PNG?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yep i dug it up
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm surprised you kept levels
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: true, but with hp% a full name will still fit
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure it could be more compact..
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but almost 1/2 was huge difference for epics
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: plus as i said i never even realized you had option to remove mana/moves heheh
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so for epics, because I've never done them
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is HP the only thing you really care about?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty much.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Pretty much, and really only a few players, the 'tanks'
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for epics yeah i guess, for normal groups its nice to know when a boat weighs anchor...
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when a what
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You'll get some epics like Winds that will target everyone in combat, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I can talk about anchors.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and an afk trigger would be good too, for the non-tanks
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: icefall drains mana. and moves at one point
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "an afk trigger" that does...?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: An afk trigger?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: He's joking.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Fiendish, could you please code Pleiades a sense of humor?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: every time Pleiades faps i laugh like theres no tomorrow
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well i meant when a group member isnt contributing and its obvious by the mana/moves.  believe it or not it wouldnt be the first time someone tagged along without pulling their weight
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think he fapped out the last remaining braincells
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts A Nimwit Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: besides...
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pleiades, are you jewish?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if not, then he doesn't have the genes for comedy anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: dont go there
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok ok so back to the plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: most certainly not
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish licks A Nimwit Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so HP, but maybe also moves and mana
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorting, but only maybe
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it'd be good if the plugin can c 446 every 10 seconds or so
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley slaps A Nimwit Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and join late, north, east and west as needed
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nynego east!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that seems like unrelated functionality
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, don't listen to him trolling.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Defending his clannies, Rex Daemon Crowley explains A Nimwit Pleiades that maze navigators are not illegal!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i check which are the preferred fonts for mush so that everything shows up correctly
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: pleiades you might want my random gtell plugin.  it also throws in random 446's so people think you're still at the keyboard and giving it your best
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: does it trigger icecool's commands?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: of course
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and does it join late in the right section?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's usually why inferno ninnies so fast on the wrong call out
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: where?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: in the output window
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it could.  nay.  it WILL.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: Alt+5
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Limunious, any font that is monospaced will work fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pick any monospace font you like
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah don't assume anything other than monospaced
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I use Lucida Console, it's not bad.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Comic sans, baby.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i was this one time in another win in epic and they noticed. 
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i use courier 10pt
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: just one time. once
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: Dina 11pt
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: 14 pt
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but it doesnt wrap correctly
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: you probably will have to adjust window so lines don't scroll off the top
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Dina don't have an 11pt!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's a scalable font, just type '11' in the size box..
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And now that I've tried it, ye gods Dina looks horrifying
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i swear that failed on me back in the day
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: like for some reason with some of the fonts, like it doesnt always align with the left of my window.  like when looking at room desc
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like you could change it but it would never get bigger than 9
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh thank goodness, back to Consolas like a civilized person.  my eyes hurt
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I use courier new
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That conversation happened so long ago you're using courier old now
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dina only looks good at very small sizes
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, I afked to play with the cat
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cats
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, what were we saying about the group window
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: "Send a pull request"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes but besides that
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: HP only, sorting?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It really sounds like the epics are such a specialized situation that it needs a separate group monitor, almost
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe maybe not
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's hard to design something to accomodate a group of 30 people
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: From what was being said I was getting the impression they don't actually care about all 30, just the leader and designated tanks
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so tanks at the top
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cutting off mana/moves and making it more compact helps a lot, essentially 1/4 the size of default
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: would a pull request for a specific plugin go under fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: obv one developed by you and in the default package...
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, the plugins are not a separate repo
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: either on its own branch  or on the development branch
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok anyone know how to set like my margins, my output window is only allowing like 3 words accord is
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: accord
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: accross
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Alt+5
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Wrap output at column number?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: im on a map no alt.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: it happened soon as i stretched my widow out some
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: no alt button and on a mac.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Game -> Configure -> Output.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok it was at column 20
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you uncheck that option it'll just wrap at the window width
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just did that and its still not working.  anything ont he right hand sie
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: or maybe i just resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Raspberry pi - anyone operating on this?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Operating? You mean mudding?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Sure
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there any way of making the minimap smaller?  not the mapper map but the game map?  i would like the window smaller
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: but still have the map centered
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not sure i understand which map, but have you tried moving the middle wheel on your mouse?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: nope no mouse just a pad.  let me try squeezing.  and im talking about the ascii ma that would normally be in game if u typed map 
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: grab the bottom right corner and resize it
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yea just did that but the map doesnt like recalibrate to actually fit the window
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: no, it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i think i know which one, wheel mouse doesnt work on that one but it does on the non ascii one
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you might be able to apply a smaller font
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: that worked!  dropped it to 6
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: how do i find the commands for mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: What kind of letters?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: is somunication log a pluggin?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hey guys
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hola
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: Im running windows 10, when i turn on my pc, whether if its sleeping or completely off, it takes long to load, for e.g i turn it on, it loads windows then has a black screen for a minute then it goes to my lock screen
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: any known cause/fix for it?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems like you're hibernating
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: long boot either is normal fro Win 10 or there is some startup process that take a lot of time to start
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: check if you have enough disk space. windows may be trying to install some update, but not enough space, and it goes in circles trying to free it
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i have 7k atm :D
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: have SSD?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: do you have a lot of programs kicing off at boot time?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: also if you have cloud account, try to switch to local account and see if it helps
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i think its SSD :p
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i have over enough disk space
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: then it doesnt make any sense..
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Win 7 SSD wake up takes 1-2 seconds, when full boot is more like 30-60 second
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: and no, not much programs starting up
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe it is network related? like mounting remote share ?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: maybe it could be that full boot thing or quick boot maybe?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: no network related stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: i had this black screen problem on wife's laptop, it turned out windows was trying to install updates, and it needed like 10 gig of disk space
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Click Start, type Power Options and select same from the list. Navigate to Choose what the power button does /> Shutdown settings />Turn on fast startup  , save changes
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but start with installing all updates
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I don't know whether Win 10 can do that in single task, or you need several boots to get all updates (like Win 7)
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm, updates are installed,  i'll try Trachx quickly
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe you need wait for Win 10 to transfer all your data to MS :P
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm, win 10 usually takes 1 boot for me and fast boot is on, guess i have to try to update it to the latest OS
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is somewhat similar to your problem: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/why-does-it-take-windows-10-so-long-to-boot-up/7b2bdfcb-a8c2-4e79-aa5d-fb13bfb59787?auth=1
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: short answer is upgrade to Win 7 :P
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyone is virtualizing Win 7 with Xen ?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: is there a way, with aardwolf as I know there is with other muds, to assign alt-h to announce hp?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: with mush, yes
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: can you tell me how? it's a habit that I need that for all the muds I don't have it set for lol
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: altH is occupied i see:)
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: but file>world properties>macros
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: huh? I thought it would override the help thingy
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its probably possible somehow. ask fiendish
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: huh. I'll mess with it. LOL if my ignorent of scripting self breaks something I'll learn from it. 
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: and, what should I have an hp macro do? would it be sending a command? I know of no commands other than turning my prompt on and back off again just to glean my hp.
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: report
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: in that case I may just use r instead of h because it reports everything
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: lol or not. maybe one of the f keys
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it depends how complicated you want the script to be
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: I really need to learn more
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: what do you guys suggest in terms of a NAS drive that i can also configure for outside use? should i just build a small computer, or is there a decent priced one
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vidkun Tech: Can anyone help me with mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ask your question.
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't know, since I don't know your question.
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Guess it's not that important.
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: "Trigger function "skillgain" not found or had a previous error."  --- How do i fix it? lol
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: depends on what the error says
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: any idea why S&D GUI's fonts are black on a black background? I reinstalled the GUI script and still the same.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that very old S&D had black on black during GQs
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: install it from 'finger starling'
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I have the latest version, the data is in there, just colored in black and not visible.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway finger Starling
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: strangely, an old 2 veriosn of the S&D GUI works and I can see the lines in white.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: got a question about blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: my clear button switch between one set of buttons . i deleted the clear set and hsve no idea to get it back
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: How to use mush echo to world instead of aard echo?  Using in a trigger.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: I use Send() to send commands to Aard. How to have the command not echo in the window?
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: can I get the current room ID in MUSH client's trigger?
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sure.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: require 'gmcphelper' print(gmcp("room.info.num"))
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: ah is that works on triggers also? I should set sento to script right?
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: what am i doing wrong with bast spellup , it seems to have just given up
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: all the spells are in the list but its not auto casting them
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: try bsp resume
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: bsp resume, if nothing, then jsut type bsp and see if something is blocked/disabled maybe
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: or just reinstall the plugin, that magically fixes things for me sometimes
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: says waiting pass without trace 226
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: but i have that removed and forgetskill
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: you did 'bsp srem 226' ?
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: try bsp sr 226
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: did that
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: cast it manually then
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: did it manually and still shows waiting 
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: reinstall the plugin and see if that fixes it
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i think it uses pass instead of trace to try to cast it
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: seems to have done the trick
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: traditional tech support will never die!
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: how to send a command to world, bypass aliases in mush
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doesn't World already bypass aliases, which require Execute?
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Change the "Send to" to world
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: just typing. not doing another alias
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: \\\Send("say hi")
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Does windows sometimes just randomly turn your computer off to force you to update or whatever?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: Probably.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zekzaer Tech: any mages use BlowTorch available?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a method to prevent aliases from being tricked by emote?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zekzaer Tech: is there an alias i can set up to auto select my spell target?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: can you define auto select? by default, things should go against your target
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: well, against who you are attacking. so what is auto select and what is target?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: No l in veil
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: No l in veil
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hey all. My A5's screen is not going on, there's sound, the menu and back button goes on but black screen
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: anyone know the issue is
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a method in MUSH to prevent a trigger from being triggered off an emote?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: can trigger off of channels?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: or some other gmcp info?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: w/o giving away my secret, it needs to start with the playername
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: thats fine... but does the info come across a channel?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: no :(
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: damn...
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: then the only thing i can think of is that you have to regex the entire statement
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In MUSH, can you make an "if" clause where one of the options is doing absolutely nothing? Like if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("Something") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("nothing") end <--- where the variable "thief" recognizes whether or not I'm currently a thief.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why would you need an Execute() call to do nothing?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: why even have that branch if it does nothing?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: just have a plain if with no else or else if
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If I leave it empty, it produces an error message on use.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So that I can have things that happen after the if clause that happens regardless of the variable without having to repeat code.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: just do if <condition> then <action> end
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: did you run this by abelinc, metria?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: With Basts spellup self plugin is the an easy way to pause recasting?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like sitting?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Click on the Active in the mini-window
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: No sorry, like say I wanted to cancel to get a spellup from someone higher level.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: THough I guess sitting would work.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: nevermind. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: bsp pause ?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: TY
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: google is a bunch of amateurs. always has been, always will be
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, I just checekd the stock price of fullblowncelebrity.com vs. google, and you're killing it
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I recently let not-porn.com expire. Celebrity could take that instead.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nah, some ass probably gobbled it up as soon as it expired and put it for auction :/
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh. My. F****ng. God. So Mush crashed on me while I was making new triggers. So I bootd it up again and that stupid pop-up was back. So I clicked it and closed the game, so make sure it wouldn't be back and when the client asked if I wanted to save, I said yes. Apparently, that was a huge mistake because what I saved was an empty worlds file and now all of my settings are gone. All. Of. Them. Is there any way to regain them or do I have to spend the next 5 hours rewriting everything from scratch?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: IDK for sure but id get my fingers stretched out really well. lol. That sucks so bad.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Yeah, unless you made some kind of backups yourself, i suspect not if it overwrote your main world file
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I have a huge problem with MUSH client crashing. It crashed basically once a day.,
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This also appears to be a huge glitch. The crashed somehow erashed all of my settings. Or when it loaded up my worlds file, it loaded up an empty file and thus I accidentally overwrote everything.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I just installed the client and updated it.  Been away from aard for a while.  I don't seem to have the gcmp map window, even though the plug in is installed and enabled.  Anyone have a clue on where to turn the map on?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Well if you do rewrite, Definitely backup all that work if your having consistent crashes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just another thing I shouldn't have to do that I'll have to do from now on.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Could someone send tells with the codes for the following things in MUSH: "if variable is X/Y, do A/B" script commands, "setvariable" and "getvariable" commands?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: an try file/plugins/mapper and big mapper should be in there. try to disable the enable them.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OMG! The crashed fixed ONE thing, though. I can C+P text from other programs into MUSH and from MUSH into other programs now!
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And clicking links works, finally!
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: lol nice
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Watch as both go away once I load up plugins and whatnots.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: godmode is not working for some reason
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: hmm got this messsage when I disabled/enabled gMCP mapper  "Status: Your mapper is active but hidden."
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: looked in the plugin file.. Just has to type mapper show
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I need the codes for "If variable is X/Y, do actions A/B". 
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's the one thing I don't think I'll be able to rewrite from memory.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I'm just having to rewrite all that myself.  Once i remember it i'll send it to you
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: mapper help all           --> Show the entire list of all mapper commands
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: may try ... mapper help config        --> Commands for configuring the mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if GetVariable("test") == "xx" then Execute("give 1000000 gold endymion") elseif GetVariable("test") == "yy" then Execute("give 10000000 gold endymion") end
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: weird i have a endymion/test replacement sub cause that was supposed to be me
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: endymion/test ... yay i removed the substitution
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm trying to disable F1 as the Help key and oh my god, I hate the fact that my Windows is Swedish. How do you acccess the Windows Mobility Center besides through the run command? Because I don't know what it's called in Swedish so I can't find it.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i just buy a legitimate copy of windows
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It is legitimate. It's in Swedish because I bought my computer in Sweden so I didn't get the choice to get my Windows in English. Microsoft is stupid like that.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what version of windows?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: f1 is under options in mush
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: under global prefs
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: W10. Apparently it only exists on Laptops, anyway unless I want to muck about with the registy. I need a different way to disable F1 Help.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks, Redryn!
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so if you do Win-I and type 'settings' does it work in swedish version?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Windows Button + I does nothing for me. I think I may have disabled the Windows button.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Like way back because I kept accidentally opening crap I didn't want to open with it.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you should be able to install English language pretty easily
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try "start menu" and start typing "region"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if it works the top option will be Region and language settings
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I set English (UK) to standard. Do I have to restart?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't want my keyword settings to change, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you need to add the language too?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in the middle top there's Country/region
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I clicked to download it. It's isntalling right now.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: below that is Languages
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno for sure, just doing some casual research into how to change language in win10
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It finished installing. Did not change the language of my Windows.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Or... it's possible it's failing to download. The Downlod window is this there but if I click it, it'll load for a few seconds and then nothing happens....
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh. Whatever.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: under Languages, I see English (United States) and under that it says Windows display language
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It refuses to download.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if yo go back to start->region, are you able to tell what is middle-center under Languages?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Why do you keep asking the same question when I answered it ages ago? I changed it to English, but the package refuses to download.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: screw you
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Imminent Broud narrows his eyes with a wary look.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont know why i wasted any time on some stupid jerk who bought a laptop in another country in another language like some stupid ass
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oops mis
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that is an interesting position considering that the overwhelming majority of electronics are either wholly made in another country or their components are.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in, not from :/
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i can buy a laptop from korea that is not korean language
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you are complaining about superficial problems, change the language pack.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: although it did have a korean hair under the numpad enter key which made it squeak
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i deduced this because it was there when i got it and it was shipped from korea
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: -tech
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: and, by the way, you are bordering on personal attacked based on country of origin. There are those here who are Korean.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: -tech
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: personal attack how?  do you even read?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: let's just end the thread and then it won't matter whether I can or not.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So English windows is out because Microsoft sucks as usual. It is possible to have and if expression inside of an if expression in MUSH? Like: if GetVariable("lvl201") == "yes" then Execute("if GetVariable("singlemort") == "yes" then Execute("singlemortleveleq201") elseif GetVariable("singlemort") == "no" then Execute("multimortleveleq201") end") elseif GetVariable("lvl201") == "no" then Execute("if GetVariable("singlemort") == "yes" then Execute("singlemortleveleq") elseif GetVariable("singlemort") == "no" then Execute("multimortleveleq") end
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently the answer is no. I'm getting an error.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: are you using lua
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using nested ifs is bad practice
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Uh, I think. Does MUSH Aard Client use Lua per default?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I guess I'll create a few extra aliases like last time, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: you just have the wrong syntax
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should consider using plugins instead of built-in mush windows for triggers/aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you can define functions
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What plugins would be good ones?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I just use a separate lua script file.  Makes it much easier
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Check out this page.. the first half shows how to setup a script file and link alias/triggers to functions you define
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: and then you can look at any lua tutorial online for syntax on how to write those functions
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh great. Apparently loading bast's hunt script breaks the copy+pasting function and clicking on links function.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exiled To Aphelion . o O ( that's what you get for using s&d... )
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: google sharptracker aardwolf , not the best example how you should program, but pretty good start with Lua programming
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's not S&D.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: bast hunt works with those two components for me
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. Apparently, you can't Copy text or click on links from the Communication Log.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can, right click
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: very nice zhalut
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sorry sir i didnt mean to post to this channel
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: u fired
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling glares at Endymion for a moment before BANNING him from the mud!
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion clutches at his chest and falls over dead.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's wrong with the following alias (set to mhunt *, regular expression / execute):  SetVariable ("Hunt", "%1")
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It seems to be sending to world instead?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: regexp needs a capture ()
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like (.)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and it needs to be set to script, not execute
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (the actual alias is "^mhunt (.*?)$")
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or (.)(.)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh. 
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's the lua script for sending to execute?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Execute("") ??
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh. I don't now why it's not working. It used to work. Dunno what I'm doing different. Trying to create an alias that both sets a variable and then calls upon another variable. But I can't get the alias to do both. Either part will fail, depending on if I set it to Script or Execute.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Send ("STuff") will send Stuff directly to the mud.   Execute ("Stuff") will run Stuff through all your aliases and triggers first
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not triggers just aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well, triggers don't trigger on command line input
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This is my current alias: SetVariable("Hunt", "%1")
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This is my current alias: SetVariable("Hunt", "%1") / Execute("hunt %1")
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If set to Execute, the setvariable part does not happen. If set to script, the execute part does not happen.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you use Send(  to send to the mud when using script
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what is the alias string
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm not trying to send to the mud, I'mt rying to trigger an alias.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ^mhunt (.*?)$
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: send to script should set a variable and then send hunt %1 to the mud, unless you have another alias on hunt...
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: try Note(  what you are Executing
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes... I have another alias on hunt...
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what does your other alias do
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah that code works with script so you have other problems
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so later, when using mush to navigate it knows that it should not use portal in such room
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Disabling and reenabling bast's autohunt script and restarting the program worked. Bast's autohunt script has problems where it sometimes does not activate for some reason, but this time it was also somehow sent to world instead of execute... I think.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so much high maintenance
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you not see it's "mountain cyclops'"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So I've set up triggers to respond to "A/An/The * is here!" when hunting. Is there a way to set up a trigger for mobs whose names don't start with any of those, yet so that it will only trigger on a successful hunt and not, say, someone saying the string on Gossip?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just install S&D for crying out loud
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: if you use regexp  you can use ^ to make it be at the start of a line (so people can't gossip your alias)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the preview just didnt convince me that there was a parallel universe
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This? https://github.com/aardwolf-lunk/WinkleWinkle-Search-And-Destroy-Triple-Pack-Up-To-Date
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nanoc: But the only way to do that that I know of would be to create a trigger that responds to: "^(.*?) is here\!$", which would allow for literally anything to preceede "is here!".
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do I need the Extender GUI and Mapper Extender or do I just need the Search Destroy 2 xml?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you need neither
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright. I'll set it up now. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently I do? Because this is what happens when I try to initiate "ah": xmapper move 20573 / hunt warrior
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Repeat ad nauseum.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does Search & Destroy automatically try to open doors?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (It's working now after I installed the 2 other plugins)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: snd uses the mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: including cexits
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so if you have cexits that 'open north, north', it'll use them
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: aka: No
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Star Wars Tech: you have to set that up yoursef through the mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I do that?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: welcome to the bot squad, Yuna
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So, basically, whenever I want to add a door for mapper to auto-open, I need to be in the room and input "mapper cexit open X;X"?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Two semi-colons, not one.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And this will make mapper automatically open that door in the future?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: An even easier way to do it is to create an alias to do that, such as 'nopass <direction>' so that when you hit such a door, just do 'nopass <direction>' and bam, handled.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alrighty, thanks guys. Back to rebuild a billion variables, triggers and aliases...
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone know the code for the following things: Bring MUSH client window to forefront (always on top ON), display a pop-up window, turn always on top off? I had a trigger for that for when it's questing time but the crash wiped it and I have no clue how to rebuild it.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think sendtofront should work: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?lua=utils.sendtofront
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What would I put within the brackets? MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, that should be enough
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Could you send the word "firefly" to the tech chat?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: firefly
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: "firefly"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Didn't work.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Set trigger to firefly, and Send(execute) as "utils.sendtofront ("MUSHclient")". Nothing happened when you just sent "firefly" to the chat.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: test: \\\found = utils.sendtofront ("MUSHclient"); Note(found)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That returned "true". Didn't send the MUSHclient window to the front, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So... any ideas? The old trigger just set MUSHclient to be on top always and then turned that off afterwards.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, what fresh Hell is this? autohunt with search and destroy isn't auto-engaging found hunt mobs in combat.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that'd be boting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, that will get you nicely nuked... fresh crispy yuna burned to a cinder
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I wasn't a few years ago when I specifically asked about if it was okay for me to set up triggers to engage mobs in battle if I got the message "<hunt mob> is here!". Did that change?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Of course, I wasn't using S&D, but a zMUD script. S&D appears to automatically try to run to the area upon a questr initiation?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: snd doesn't do anything automatically :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: at least my version
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm fairly certain I asked an imm to make sure, but when I asked a few years ago, as long as I didn't set up triggers to automatically run to the area, hunt down my mob and kill it, it was fine. Having an autohunt script that I had to manually engage to hunt down a mob was fine. Having triggers that automatically engaged a hunted mob in battle once found was fine. Having a trigger to automatically enter my amulet to go to the Hotel and quest complete upon killing the mob was fine. Having all 3 was fine. Is this no longer true? Or was I given faulty information?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I don't understand. From what you said above, you were specifically told that 'as long as you didn't automatically hunt down mob and kuill it' it was fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so, autohunt followed by autokill is forbidden
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I see no contradictions there :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the fact that they are 2 separate triggers doesn't change that, obviously
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, as long as I didn't set up a process that automatically ran to the quest area, hunted down the quest mob and returned to questor to complete the quest, all with a single command (or to automatically request quests while afk), it was fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: beside the bot considerations I wouldnt want ah to autoattack the found mob. I, sometimes,  use ah to move throu mazes, or have hunted mob in rooms full of other aggro mobs, and prefer not to add another opponent on sight
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: most scripts NEVER use runto
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so, if that's your reasoning, trust me: it's wrong :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OK... so autokilling is out. Autorecalling/portalling and finishing the quest?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Just don't "auto"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I have no idea. The rules for whatever doesn't involve fighting/killing are rather grey-area. I wouldn't do it though: i'd use an alias instead, like 'qc' for example, that would get back to questor and quest complete
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Then we're back to why is it okay to have autohunt scripts but not triggers that do a few other things "automatically"? Heck, using the logic of "No auto!", scripts/triggers to automatically recast failed spellups back before the spellup command existed would be botting.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: help botting, second bullet point
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I already have that set up as an alias
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: triggering a recall and quest complete is in help botting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I really think that is NOT the purpose of that line :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I think that line means "Don't set up a script to do all of these things with a single command".
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I mean, the context there involves requesting the quest, finding the mob, killing it, AND THEN going to complete the quest
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because if every single one of those things is illegal, autohnt scripts are out as well.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for the quest complete part (after the killing) that's rather unclear. but, as I said above, I wouldn't do it
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'll contact Broud.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you can start a fight, walk away ad come back later to a handed in quest.. that is botting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: TIL I botted for years during questing due to faulty information.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I think you misunderstood the question, Shindo. It's like this: can you have a trigger that, when the right message appears after killing a mob, recalls and quest complete?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so the trigger would fire AFTER the 'return to questor' line appears
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Broud Appears to state that it would be botting. His response was "If the trigger acts upon the kill, that would be botting."
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: oh well, make alias as I suggested above :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've had that alias for years. qi, qc, qr, qres.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I think that falls exactly in the scenario shindo described.  You start a fight and walk away from the keyboard.  You finish killing the mob, your trigger fires.. you walk back to a completed quest
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: and in his opinion thats botting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Liber, i said exactly what you did just put it in context
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that would be boting NOT because of quest complete
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that would be boting because leaving while an ongoing fight = boting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so really, the quest complete part is just the cream on top of the cake :D
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that as well but the fight ends and with no input from you, you go home and quest complete. hence botting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: see above: before the fight ends, you're already boting :) are there degrees of boting?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Back to the sendtofront issue. I can't seem to get utils.sendtofront ("MUSHclient") to work.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: actually there are, autohunt, autowhere scripts, mushclient navigation
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that is NOT boting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: which all rely on automation but are let slide
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I think the defining line is "If I suddenly had to leave the screen 
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Would these triggers leave me gaining something without my responding"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: so a trigger to complete quest = botting.   Runto isn't
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that defining line is crossed when you leave during fight. because you gain exp/gold without being at the keyboard
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Liber, you are saying that (going linkdead and) leaving while fighting is boting. ("boting" in not an english word)  Leaving while fighting is not necessarily botting.  (depends on whether the triggers are doing anything crucial to gains)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: linkdead is not afk :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it doesnt say afk it says unable to respond
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as being online isn't at the keyboard :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: being online and afk, while fighting, is botting. that part is clear from the help file
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I doubt anyone would raise any issues with a linkdead char. it's not like trigger work in that case. but that had nothing to do with the subjects above
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imminent Broud Tech: how would a linkdead char use triggers anyway?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that's what I said above :p
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: if all triggers are turned off, leaving while fighting is not botting.  (there may be something irl that demands immediate attention)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Zela: even ideling in an aggro area is botting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imminent Broud Tech: unless you leave a room with aggro mobs
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: my approach to all these issues: make more aliases, less triggers :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: idling in an non aggro room is different to idling in an aggro room -- background context
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: idling with low hp in an aggro room of strong mobs with triggers off is soon going to be a cr situation (unless a no-morgue room -- ah, another exception perhaps to mufddy the topic)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: if you want to be a nasty hard-ham-fisted pedantic, state that "turning the head to watch tv is being afk and if you are fighting, then you are (expletives, thunder lightning) ..., so no turning the head from the aardwolf screen" 
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: recently I've talked to hdd recovery guy and he stated that most of damageg hdds he work on are Seagates'
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: a lot of hdds are designed that in case of trouble with heads they just lock heads and drive stops working (but can be unlocked)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: barracudas however work as long as that is possible
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and that ends that they just end with something like that: https://www.cheadledatarecovery.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Failed-HDD.jpg
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my backup 2TB Seagate ended exactly like that one
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a reason why you would ever want Expand Variables to be off in MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a reason in zmud.  In the specific case of loading zsc scripts, a simpler workaround is to load the triggers before the variables exist (are loaded)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But not in MUSH? Then why is it off by default? So annoying to have to keep ticking it for scripts when I can't see a reason why it shouldn't just be ticked by default.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the zmud specific case where the ariable is in text what the trigger is looking for, example like when scanning for obname
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the zmud specific case where the ariable is in text what the trigger is looking for, example like when scanning for obname
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: @variable  @amobname
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe when typing variables to display on tech
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: displaying the "at" sign on channels requires getting past both the zmud clientside and the aardwolf mudside interpreters
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: turning off that option may avoid a lot of unforseen difficulties (like when the mudclient is too helpful)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But who the heck communicates on channels using aliases or triggers?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in lua can you test one variable against more than one result ie if aa == 1 or 2 or 3 ?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: also lua question, can i check if something is not a key in a list\table?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmm... after playing around with resizing the windows in MUSH, my mapper and map mini-windows are no longer centered. Is there any way to fix this?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. It was just Dark Elf Stronghold being weird.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you end an alias/trigger in MUSH when you want to leave the ending open ended?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to make the PlaySound command play a sound twice? Or do I have to make a custom sound file for that?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: invoke it twice?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doesn't work.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 2nd Play overwriters the 1st, apparently.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: look at one off timers tomake it play rwice
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've already cut it in Sony Vegas to make a new sound file, but for future posterity, how do I introduce a timer?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone know the command with Durel's inventory plugin that gets all items between 2 specified levels (like, say, 100 and 110) out of bags into your main inventory?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: -g
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone with know-hows on tmux?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: is there a way to call an alias inside of an existing alias? like 1 alias to execute a few?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: in mush*
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Use "send to" -> execute
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: what if there is a combination of commands and aliases?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: execute runs all the commands through mush if there none it passes to world
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: execute is the highest level, so it will match aliases or commands
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: so it does. Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamora Tech: what is the command for adding a wait timer in a trigger?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: wait(#)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamora Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. I think that's just for mapper cexit things, I'm not sure though.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: so I might be wrong. hmm.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i can't remember how but basically you make the trigger load a one shot timer withthe commands in the timer for later
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: do you guys know a good single target attack plugin? I use a minwin consider all plugin but it's pretty buggy.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: how would i go about changing spellup to use trace instead of pass as command for pass without trace
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: it just shows You belch and pass out. every time it tries to use the skill
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: if I use the regexp     ^alias (.*) (.*)$    The first capture group is all the arguments except the last one.  The 2nd capture group is just the last word.  Alias This is a test.   Group1 = "This is a"  Group2 = "test"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: is there a way to reverse that.  so the first group is just hte first word. and the 2nd group is all the reset?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: If you just want to grab a word, you could use ([^ ]+) which would mean at least one (and possibly more) characters that aren't a space
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: that will probably do it
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: isnt there a space character, some thing like \s  ?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: np, I use that trick a lot
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: or is it \w for white space
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: Hey all
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hey
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: I'm using the MushClient for Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: it's not recording the commands in the history for later retrieval.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: must have accidently turned it off
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: how do I turn it back on
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: options - input - command -> Command history
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it's a number
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: keep command history says 1000
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: maybe I should restart
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: ok, now it's working
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: anyone know how to fix bast_spellup , its using pass instead of trace for pass without trace , every time it spells up i belch
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: yess
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: just made a trigger on you belch and pass out to trace i guess
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why not simply ask Bast?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i dont know who bast is
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: a player
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: 'finger bast'
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: bastra ?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: its offline
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Bast online since : Sat Dec 23 16:55:38 2017
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: get detects
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: alias "pass" to "trace" in mushclient and it will fix that. There is no good way to figure out what word to use for a command, so bast_spellup just uses the first word, and it breaks with that
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: is it sent to world ? execute ?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: world is fine
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: im still getting belch and pass out
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are aliases enabled? look on the aliases page and make sure that "Enable Aliases" is checked
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: yes aliases are enabled
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: all I did was do a new alias, put "pass" in the alias field, "trace" in the send field and used the defaults, it worked
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i dont know what im doing wrong then , i removed it then made pass for trace with defaults and i still get belch
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go to https://gist.github.com/endavis/946a4093b1e1938d174f84364206fb3a and copy the data starting with <aliases> and ending with </aliases> and use the paste button on the alias page. See if that works.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: is there a way to mass-unflag norecall/prison rooms with mapper?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: ah, mapper norecall <roomid> false
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: wonder if you could do mapper norecall % false
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: really do not want to try that :p
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: but you did say mass unflag. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: that was in light of the recent mudinfo post
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: youtube proposes videos according to time of day. now it spits my page full of xfm again
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, whats the best way to capture a line and then print it with it's original colors?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: isn't there a copy with color codes plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i want to replace a line of output with my own modified version
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im talking in a trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: does anyone know how to capture a line with colors in mush so i can print it out again?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you could use my text substitutions plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, whats that/where do i find more info on it?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type checkversion
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: update and it'll be there
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im scared of updating
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: updating breaks things
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec is agreeing with that Kobus person again...
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: updating also fixes things. what are you going to do
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I was scared to update, also. I'd been using mush version 4.70something? but eventually I worked up the courage to do it. it went a lot smoother than I thought it would.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ive seen a lot of people complain about their db being broken after updating in one of these latest versions
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: well I back up my db in three different places, so.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ill try it on a copy and see what happens i guess
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone complaining that their db is broken after an update has introduced a small problem that we might call user error
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: will the text substitution let me capture colors from a trigger?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "capture colors from a trigger" is unclear
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: "user error"? :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: .....
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: a pebkac error. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no it isnt, read it again
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: we gonna go full Apple here now?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want an answer to the question from me, please try asking it in a different way
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: users are not happy. they are such errors
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or you could insist that the question was perfect and I'll just go back to eating corn
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: capture colors using a mushclient trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can only use styles in script.  you'd need to send to script and have a function in your script file to handle it
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: capture a line including colors from within a mushclient trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: use a mushclient trigger to capture a line including color codes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: theres 4 different ways
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: any of them hit?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what would you do with the line including color codes?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because it's not a capture lines with color codes plugin, you see
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a text substitution plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's what you suggested when he asked for a way to copy lines w/color from a trigger :p
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's not true
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now you're saying its not what its for rofl
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's what I suggested when he said "i want to replace a line of output with my own modified version"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: did you read the line before that?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or the one before that?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I did, did you read the line after the line before it?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you script right kobus?  put it in a script file
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: [30 Dec 23:08:32] Kobus Tech: hrm, whats the best way to capture a line and then print it with it's original colors?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: TriggerStyleRuns.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if all you want to do is convert style runs into aardwolf color codes, then you can use more code that I wrote in aardwolf_colors.lua
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I promise I know more about this subject than anyone else here
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you said you wanted to modify a line. You didn't say what modifications you wanted to make, so I gave you the most general 100% solution.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it was a multi-line question, you ignored the first line and answered the second
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: selective reading ftw
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do you really want to antagonize people helping you :p
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I answered the question that said what you want to do, not the other lines that said what you thought you needed to do in order to accomplish it
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: be quiet
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it wasnt a "what i thought neeeded to be done" it was the thing i wanted to do
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you said, and I'm quoting here, "i want to replace a line of ouptut with my own modified version"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: [30 Dec 23:08:32] Kobus Tech: hrm, whats the best way to capture a line and then print it with it's original colors?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i wonder if it's natural, or if it takes a lot of work.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: also quoting there
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that is the tech line immediately preceeding the one you posted
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: printing a line with its original colors is what mushclient already does for you without any triggering
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wow...
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: just wow
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Script after omit, and use TSR. It's what I do.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah crowley that's the only way outside of a plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: this will end up being inside of a plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but where can i find more info on what youre describing?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: inside is easy function(name, line, wildcards, styles)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Still would use TSR.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: styles is a table of the line text separated by color differences
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i see, so call a script function from the trigger and it will have the style in it?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes as the 4th argument
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but its a lua table?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ill have to do some testing then it seems
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thanks for the assistance
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've set up a trigger in MUSH to auto-recast a certain spell upon failure. It contains a variable. On the 3rd repetition in a row, instead of calling upon the variable, it'll actually call upon the variable name (ariablename) and thus fail. Anyone know what's happening and how to fix it?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: with that information, i can only surmise you have a bug in your code
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Trigger, Send: Script : if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' eversealign") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("Null") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Trigger, Send: Script : if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' @reversealign") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("Null") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Execute("Null") ?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: the if clause is because if I'm a thief, I strangle before casting reverse align. If I'm not a thief, I don't have strangle and it's impossible to recast reverse align upon failure as I'll be in battle. Null is an alias that sets a dummy variable so that nothing really happens.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: alas he refuses to end an if with end and insists on elseif
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As I couldn't figure out a way to have MUSH do nothing. Leaving it blank returned an error.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like you were told yesterday, nix the wohle elseif
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if something then do_a_thing end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't remember being told that yesterday. Must've missed it.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could just if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' @reversealign") end ?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's alright, I mean, as long as it works
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What would the fixed text be? That's the way I was taught to do if clauses in MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but that probably doesn't solve your problem
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you dont need an elseif, IF theres nothing ELSE to do
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so the problem is a funny one
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aaah, I see.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Are you sure that it's that trigger/line that is causing the problem?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what is the trigger text, and what is your error messag?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (i assume your thief variable is set to yes?)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No message. On the 3rd rep, the trigger sends "cast 'reverse align' @reversealign" instead of what eversealign is set to.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No message. On the 3rd rep, the trigger sends "cast 'reverse align' @reversealign" instead of what @reversealign is set to.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, it is set to yes.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is @reversealign set to?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Whatever I cast reverse align to (I've set up an alias that both cast it and sets the variable)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (I hate the @ expansion notation for client variables so much)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what if you replace @reversealign with GetVariable("reversealign")?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what is your alias that sets the variable
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've removed the elseif now.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Summoner Yuna.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How would that even work? if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' GetVariable("reversealign")") end ?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well no
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: "cast 'reverse align' .."GetVariable("reversealign")
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what redryn just said
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: "cast 'reverse align' "..GetVariable("reversealign")
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sorry misplaced the ..
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright, I'll try that.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'll test it in a few minutes. Questing right now. Thanks for the help, people!
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I will note that we don't yet think this will solve the problem at hand. it's just moving you toward something that uses less xml preprocessing
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but wouldn't be interesting if it did!
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it would be a mushclient bug for sure
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Redryn's question about the alias that sets the variable is important though.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wouldn't it*
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yuna ^
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can process my xml anytime
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient bugs are my favorite kind
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, yes. I saw that. I still can't figure out what's going on. I'm pretty sure it's successfully repeated the trigger more than 3 times before. My all of a sudden, without fail, on the 3rd rep, it always glitches out.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe something is changing the variable
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in any case, hopefully the problem magically goes away 
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: magically going away is my favorite bug resolution method
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Uh... getting an error now after changing the trigger. Compile error / World: Aardwolf / Immediate execution / [string "Trigger: "]:1: ')' expected near 'end' (each slash is a line break)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. IO figured it out. Accidentally left out a ") at the end.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No.. still getting an error message. What's wrong with this code: if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' "..GetVariable("reversealign")") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Execute("cast 'reverse align' "..GetVariable("reversealign"))
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the " already was closed with 'reverse align' "
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, I see.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well... it's working now. And it just successfully did 3 reps without triggering the glitch. The problem magically went away.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i guess fiendish's troubleshooting is the most magical
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Burn the witch!!!
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: dont feed that ego, its already bloated
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts Kobus.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm glad you got the help you wanted Kobus
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: c*comf fiend
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i got the answers i was asking for, yes
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I have a plugin for single target attacks called: Aardwolf_Consider_Window. The issue with it since I changed to the latest MushClient version 5.06-pre is that it does not load the X and Y variables from the state file when I start MushClient. It does save all variables in the state file and uses them all except the X and Y position variales.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: with an older MushClient version this works.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the what variables?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: <variable name="mw_aa584807a32cf46af04a1bece3_windowx">1013</variable>
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: <variable name="mw_aa584807a32cf46af04a1bece3_windowy">573</variable>
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah. window position
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: position X and Y variables
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have a newer version of the aardwolf consider wonder plugin available
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: window*
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I would very much appreciate if you could share it Kobus.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zexe: where did your copy of the plugin come from?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: wonders who fiendish is asking
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: it is Blainer's plgin
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: never mind, i can't read
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I 've been using it for many years
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zexe: from where?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its a rather old plugin from the mushclient forums
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i can get a url fiend
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I do not remember, but I can share with you the current version I am using if you want.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: maybe not... i dont have the link to the mushclient forum post that this originates from
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: this one? https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9681
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea basically, without my changes
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. that thread has lots of updates. did the plugin get updated to match the comments?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: so with Kobus' version I get the same behaviour. Does not pick up the position variables from the state file upon client start.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: my version includes all updates in the comments plus my changes
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: so it has to be something from MushClient since on an older MushClient version it works.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so its just the x/y position of the miniwindow that isnt getting saved across subsequent loads?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I also deleted the state file, it recreated it with the variables but upon client start it wouldnot pick them.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: it saves them, it just not uses them upon client start.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: when I start mush I find the minwin on the top right corner under my chat window
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yep, the default start position of the miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm looking into it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: looks like older versions of mushclient used mw_aa<pluginid>_windowx and ..._windowy for their startup x/y positions
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I fixed it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what is the fix?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: sorry guys with child as well
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not with child though
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: change windowinfo = movewindow.install (win, 6) to     windowinfo = movewindow.install (win, 6, miniwin.create_absolute_location)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: k, one sec
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats it? thats the only instance of movewindow.install that needs changed? :(
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is there another one? I didn't keep looking
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh, i thought there was, maybe there isnt
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: usually movewindow is only installed once
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, I think that's it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea my changes didnt include anything with the miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: ok so that's in the script?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: zexe, im gonna upload a new version
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: thank you guys so much. OK Kobus
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've updated the forum post that contains the plugin code
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thanks fien
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eZHw8dpC_Va0GdgIb7VOSK3S6BF1TRPI
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: might as well update it to that
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i dont have a forum account
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it add?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: uhhhh lots?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah, I see it has a list at the top
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i can write a note
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah, it's ok. I'll add it to the end of the thread
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i didnt want to create an account, also wasnt sure if i was 100% done with it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: which apparently i wasnt
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=9681&reply=78#reply78
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: nice, thanks for the post fien
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: also my d' key barely works for whatever reason
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I confirm it loads the position now. You guys are amazing :) Thank you for this.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: hey Kobus, for the same consider_all script, is there a way to remove the attack command being echoed back to the mud? For ex. I use the keypad, I press a key, it says bs <mob name> and sends it to mud and immediatelly under this line it echoes in blue the same bs <mob name>.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you could if you edit the script
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: sure, tell me which line or lines. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: one sec, looking
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: find the part that does Note("bs "...  or it could be print and put -- in front
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: line is 573, should be able to just comment it out
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: probably could comment out 573 and 574
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: add -- to the beginning of both lines
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: will try now
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lines are ColourTell and ColourNote, change them to --ColourTell and --ColourNote
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: yes, that nicely did it. Thanks you so much.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: fo sho
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i live to serve
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: anyone using Starling's WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_v1.3.4? Exactlly when I login it executes xset suspend page size and so I get: Xset is not known here, create a new character? [Y/N] : Create new character? [Y/N]
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: do you have the other plugin *search and destroy installed?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: hmm no, will install all 3 and see
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you need both plugins. you don't need the 3rd, gui, if you dont want it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: OK all 3 installed, relogging
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: ok now I do not see the executed command at the login but get: --> Suspending paging... if enabled and then from mud: Pagesize is not known here, create a new character? [Y/N] : Create new character? [Y/N]: 
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i dont use s&d or starling's but I haven't heard that about starling's stuff... maybe try nokfah's version while you/starling figure out what's up? she is usually on alot
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: OK thanks Zhalut
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In MUSH, what is the script version of Send() / Execute(). Is it Script()?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Execute("string here")
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And that'll still work with script?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that will evaluate the string and send it via client side aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: For example, I want a trigger to initiate the following script: SetVariable("stranglereverse", "no"
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: For example, I want a trigger to initiate the following script: SetVariable("stranglereverse", "no")
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you have "send to" set to script, yes 
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But I don't want to make a separate alias for it. I want the trigger to do it.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: set send to to script and then it's all treated as lua
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Problem is that it's inside of an if-clause. So like this: if GetVariable("stranglereverse") == "yes" then WhateverGoesHere("SetVariable("stranglereverse", "no")") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then you are doing it right
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, but what to put as "WhateverGoesHere"?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: just SetVariable(....
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, ok. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and iirc you could use 0 1 for no yes then test if whatever then SetVariable(...) end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and then you don't need the == 'yes'
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's wrong with this code? if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("strangle %1
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's wrong with this code? if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("strangle %1@w
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh, hold on.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's wrong with this code? if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("strangle %1[semi-colon]SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' %1") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (where "[semi-colon]" is an actual semi-colon. Just don't know how to tech MUSH to actually display one)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: concatinatio. is wrong "strangle "..$1
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: to use semi-colon on a line inmush start the line with semi-colon or use doubles
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, if it's written lua code like that, you can't use %1?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the %1 isn't the issue it how you join your string
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Send("bs "..%1)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: blowtorch uses $ can't remember what mush uses
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ("strangle "..%1
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ("strangle "..%1[semi-colon]SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") ? Still returning an error. "[string "Alias: "]:1: ')' expected near 'strangle'"
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and remember you can use spell numbers to cast, so Send("c 123 "..%1)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is my problem that I'm trying to both execute a command and to set a variable (by running a script) in the same command? Do I have to separate the two? Can you even do that? Do BOTH an Execute() and a SetVariable()?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: because to send a command use Send("bs "..%1) 
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can have a thousand lines of code
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Neither of the two will stop your scripts to continue, so you should be able to do both of them in the same script
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The problem is that I'm trying to get the if-clause to do two things, execute/send a command and set a variable using script. Is that what's screwing up my alias? Because none of your suggestions have fixed it insofar.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: after the then it will execute all the lines of code till an else or end happens
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Send("strangle "..%1"[semi-colongoeshere]SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' %1") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is still returning the following error: Compile error. [string "Alias: "]:1: ')' expected near 'stranglereverse'
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Before your first semi-colon, you're missing a closing ')'
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Send("strangle "..%1"')'[semi-colongoesherfe]SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' %1") end ? Still returning the same error and looks really weird ot me.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Remove the quotes, just use )
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: So that it closes the Send(...
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Send("strangle "..%1")[semi-colongoeshere]SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' %1") end still returns the same error. >_>'
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: start in the actual trigger to get it all on new lines. then it will be easier to find the syntax error
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I didn't quite understand that.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in the text box replace semi-colons with newlines
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ie hit return\enter
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Changed nothing. I think I can fix it by just setting it to execute and add an alias. Hang on.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Okay, first off, the %1's should be outside the double quotes: Execute("cast 'reverse align' " .. %1)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the" after %1 is the error now
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Send("strangle ".. %1); SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' " .. %1) end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Also, just use else instead of elseif, since you're checking on the same variable, and only 2 conditions
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "[string "Alias: "]:1: attempt to concatenate global 'k' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Then your initial variable doesn't have a value (a nil)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You mean "thief"? It does. It's set to "yes".
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ie your trigger isn't catching anything in to %1
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I just changed it to initiate 2 separate aliases. But now I'm getting a different error. So currently the initial alias reads: SetVariable("reversealign", "%1") [line break] if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("rev2") else GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("rev3) end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And I get the following error: [string "Alias: "]:3: unexpected symbol near '=='
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. I fixed it. It finally works. Ugh.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Did you put it inside the double quote? :p
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah. I missed the last quote mark while editing. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Awesome. Have a good one
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I had to write, like, 6 aliases and 5 triggers for what is basically 2 functions but now it works. Thanks, you too!
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: doeas anyone have a good envenom script? I mean to unwield, envenom wielded, wield, unwield secon weap, etc
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh the joy of having multiple email accounts with Google and using a VPN... You get spammed with text messages and email alerts AND Google App alerts that someone has your password.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone use MuDrammer when on iphone?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: anyone use AMD cpus?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I use a quadrapus
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but yes, I do
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: is the amd fx 8350 worth it? or unsure?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: what do you plan on doing with it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it works but is so yesterday
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: basic gaming, most intense game would be BF1, got the 4350 but i bottlenecks my gpu
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I'd probably look into Ryzen, if you want to go the AMD route
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: hm. 4560 i think was the sweetest spot cpu
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: not looking to spend 175+ at this time, going for a budget build
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: 175 for CPU alone?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: so do you have a motherboard already?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: for ryzens
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: 4560 was as good as i3 for 2x less gold
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: already have a mobo, but not for ryzen would need new
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you can probably get a good combo deal through microcenter or newegg
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: have am3+ mobo would need a am4 for ryzen
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: just curious about the cpu because i am trying to pick up the 8350 for under 80
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: There's something wrong with my mapper plugin, any tips on how I can figure out what happened/fix it?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what's wrong with it?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Helps if we know what's wrong with it.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Otherwise, you'll get generic answers.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Try running it on 240 volts instead of 120 volts
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If that doesn't work, then try downgrading to 12V batteries.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: The map's not updating, and the mob search is giving me an error "Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's not the mapper, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's search and destroy, and if you're running 1.3.4, go redownload it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's WinkleWinkle.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: What's wrong with the map, then?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nothing.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's the S&D plugin that's broken.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Wait, you said the map's not updating?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What do you mean by that?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I've got a big map that I can use to navigate by clicking on rooms.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Usually when I move, there's a corresponding change on it that shows where I am.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you talking about the graphical map that comes with AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: However, it shows that I'm not moving even when I am, and clicking to navigate from one room to the next gives me a bunch of erre messages.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What are the error messages?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: just reinstall the mapper plugin, should be something like aard_GMCP_mapper in the plugin list
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: They're all run-time errors.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, interesting
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: reinstall the aard gmcp mapper, then
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and redownload those s&d plugins as that issue should be fixed
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Have you even tried closing out MUSH and opening it back up?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Still redownload the S&D plugin (or use Starling's if you have an older one), but restart MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Surely MUSHclient gave you more information than just "Run-time error"
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Run-time is just the "Check Engine" light, it provides the OBD error, too.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: It did, but trying to copy and paste messed with the formatting and posted most of it to the gossip channel XD
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pastebin.com
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Plugin: Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper (called from world: n)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Function/Sub: mapper.mouseup_room called by Plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Reason: Executing plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper sub mapper.mouseup_room
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: no such table: exits
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: pls use pastebin.com
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That no such table: exits... that's a problem.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: your db file is meant for a different version of the plugin probably.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: So reinstalling the plugin and then restarting MUSHclient should fix it?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, restarting MUSH might fix the mapper issue.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's the equivalent of turning it off and turning it back on.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: first thing you always try is turn it off and turn it back on... if that doesn't work then you can panic.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder what ever happened to Sarcastic
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: snarky is the new sarcastic.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: He went linkdead, supposedly, and never came back.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi anyone there? want ask something
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ask anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You got one question and you just wasted it asking if anyone was here.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: currently i am using iphone Device gonna switch to note 8 , about the whatapps chat history i backup it to my icloud ,so when i switch to note 8 device it able to use it?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: probably not if on icloud
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Definitely not, if on icloud. Back it up to dropbox or something instead.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: my chat history will be gone? if i am switch over to note 8?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: icloud is apple only
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You should also disable imessage. https://www.imore.com/how-to-disable-deactivate-imessage-iphone-ipad
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: back it up to dropbox or some other way if you can.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: how am i supppose to do?