T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Does basts stat pluging track daily as well as hourly?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty sure it does.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: no, but it goes in to a database
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: is there a way for me to access it>
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: sqlite3
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I don't know, I use personal trackers though. I thought basts tracked daily though.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: yes, with a little coding
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: does Koopa have a script that retrieves info from Bast's db? I wonder if he has done what you are looking for... 
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: don't know
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can 'statmn report xx' minutes
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: do you guys have a good disarm plugin please?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I just set 1 alias, 1 variable and 2 triggers.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 1 trigger.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: if I change weapons while I level, does it wield/dual them or I have to edit the alias?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You'd need to edit your alias, or you can write a script to check your level and equip the appropriate weapon
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do you want it to change? You can make the setup do either.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: thans Starling. Yes, while I level, weapons change.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: thanks*
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can help you set up the 3 things and yes, they can be setup so that when you change weapons for leveling, the setup changes as well, just as it will whenever you wield a new weapon.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just do "get all", "wield all" on disarm ?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean in your trigger
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah, but why would you want to do that when you can have it specify what you get and wield?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I might have more weaps in my inventory and so wield all would not help
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but after "get all" first weapon is that one disarmed, right ?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: and there could be a corpse or two
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so wield all should wield that weapon
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: works in theory
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: too many screwy exceptions though
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Again, why would you want to risk picking up any random piece of crap on the ground when you can just add 1 variable and 1 alias to make it only do it for your wielded weapon?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: e.g. get disarmed, you kill the mob and loot some other weapon, then your trigger kicks in after skill lag clears, you wield wrong item
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm gonna need the message you get when a mob disarms you. I haven't set up my setup yet after getting MUSH and I haven't gotten disarmed yet.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, you need stack controller with get all, wield all
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: all the messages are on the wiki. help wiki
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if you have remorted cleric, you can curse item your weapon --- it cannot be removed
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: * DISARMS you and sends your * flying!
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ^.+ DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!$
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: first trig pattern is not regexp, second one is regexp
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Someone DISARMS you and sends your something flying!
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: When I search the WIki for Disarm I get a picture that does not include the disarmed messages.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That one's for owned items, right? What's the one where you actually drop the weapon?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh wait, nvm. I didn't read below t he picture on the wikia. I have both now.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: A penis DISARMS you and sends a cock flying!
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: CRAP. Meant to be an echo.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sorry. Don't murder me, mods!
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if my table is offhand = {current = "(397668)", prev = "(174381)"}
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why does it bomb when I try to reference offhand.current ?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is there a list of skills and their sn's somewhere?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: skills
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: allspells
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes, skills
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type allspells
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: do skills have a sn?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I believe so....
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes they do, but mostly hidden from users unless you turn on the tags for affects
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I see it on showskill, but not allspells
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Skill/Spell name            Level  Sn   % 
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: nod, I see - where sn should be
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Skills do not have a SN, since SN is Spell Number
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, which doesn't help
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: ...
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does, since Skills do not have a SN.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: type showskill mace, you get Sn: 204
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: they do, when skills and spells drop and you have the tags on you'll see
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: nfor example hide is 306 and sneak is 311
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am guessing they are 201-2XX since showskill axe is 201.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, you cannot type a number to do the skill.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i am well aware of that, which is why I'd like a list with both on
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: I'll have to peek at how bast dealt with it
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: some hardware problem. mush stopped working. chrome kinda worked, got into my gmail even, it had trouble loading it fully. another program kept working..
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: task manager didnt show up...
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: made a reboot, got stalled at boot screen. pulled the power cord out, rebooted - now the pc works fine. w10
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: what could be the problem?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: hdd, memory, overheating
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Virus 
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it stalled instantly after reset
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: download hd tune - check smart for realocated sectors also run disk test, if that pass then maybe it is not hdd
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: ok. ill try that. thx
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is memory, then you will encounter more similar errors
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: overheating - get any program that is able to monitor temperature sensors - like "SIW portable" and check whether it looks normal or not
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if your hardware is old  (>5 years) then that could be also damaged motherboard capacitors
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use hdd, especially seagate's, which is over 2 years - that is most likely cause of your troubles
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or just hung Win , that also happens
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered 
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: why is mushclient like a writing desk?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: both are the product of human ingenuity
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and desire to create
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: wow, thats much more charitable than i would have said :p
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the real question is what makes a writing desk different from any other kind of desk
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Old desk, it over looks a body of water.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the AI
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Classic Vost Tech: the use to which it is put?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: poor body of water
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: always getting overlooked
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Maybe an old fashioned type writer too....
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Classic Vost Tech: I prefer a sex desk
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the variety of cloacal effluvia encrusted upon it?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I reinstalled my mapper program, but now all the rooms I've explored are listed as unknown. Is there a way to speed up reexploring them all?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Did you delete your mapper database?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, why did you need to reinstall your mapper ?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Potentially -_-
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I installed a newer version.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if this is for mush, there's backups
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Can't help you if you deleted your mapper database...
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You don't need to replace your mapperdb when upgrading your mapper.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Although, I should note that mapper hasn't actually been updated in ages
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Real ninja Starling.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Unless it's my own local copy, in which case it's been updated quite a bit ;)
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Rule #1: Make a backup.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: But yeah, either restore that file from one of the backups, or just pull it from your trash/recycle bin or whatever.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: ahhhhh.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Otherwise, make like Johnny Walker and keep on walking, because that's the only other way to get your mapper db back ;)
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: although, you could get a friend to give you theirs, but if you go that route you'll have a lot of re-tailoring and whatnot to do, either to get their DB to work for you, or to change whatever scripts you have to work with their db.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: whats the command to unlock mushclient layout?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: nevermind got it... aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Sarcastic: "I installed a newer version" doesn't actually explain why you deleted your database.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I pasted the plugin to my folder, apparently overwriting my database in the process.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what plugin?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and where did you get it from?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and which folder did you paste it to?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Search/Destroy, someone linked the newest version to me
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's not the mapper
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: mushclient/worlds/plugins
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's no way that it would delete your database by putting something there
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper database isn't in worlds/plugins
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: beyond that, search and destroy is also not the mapper
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so many holes in this story, almost seems not real
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dunpeal moans in ecstasy at Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dunpeal nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there must be more to this
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Classic Vost Tech: perhaps he is being sarcastic?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe someone linked a malicious version of s&d
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, I bet it's something else
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Sarcastic: did you change the name of your world file from Aardwolf to something else?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Highly doubt anyone here would link a malicious version of anything.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well can always share the link they sent...but seems unlikely...
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: It's saying the world name is [n], but I don't know how that happened?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you might have accidentally pressed some key combination without realizing it
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: change the world name back to Aardwolf
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then save and restart mushclient
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: What will changing the name do?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: "fix it"
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you mean beyond it following the advice of the person who wrote all of the code?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: ...
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I was just curious!
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper looks for a database file based on the name of the world
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Seriously, when Fiendish tells you to do something regarding MUSH, you should do it, and not question it. :p
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Unless you're me, but I question most things by default
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you change the name of the world, it changes the database name too
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it looks for a database name that doesn't exist, it makes a new one, which leaves you with an empty map
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I appreciate the advice. I was simply trying to understand how all this works, as I'd like to prevent all this from happening again.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if you change the world name back, it will look for the right database file and get your map back
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Conversely, if you change the name of the database, it will have the same effect.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Sarcastic: Nah, you're fine. I shouldn't have given that first response
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It's reasonable to wonder why a change would help
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I hope the explanation makes sense
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: It does, thank you for the help!
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: other mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: can mush log with timestamps?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the communication log can
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the output log too
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for example, this preamble: %Y-%m-%d %H-%M-%S 
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh yeah
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: click on the Help button and read about the preamble field and date pattern symbols
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone using samsung note 8?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I think icecool is
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: alright
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: reasonably speaking, how hard would it be to code a mud from scratch?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hard is relative
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Plenty of MUD worlds are open source, why re-invent?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: because I'm a glutton for punishment, and like doing things from scratch.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suppose it depends on how much you want to implement
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: I dunno how much I would want to implement yet. I'm just tossing around the idea as a side project to play with at home. Not to make anything public, but have the capability of doing so if I chose to.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at the very bottom level I guess you need to first implement a telnet server
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you could then optionally implement MCCP compression
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then you need to make account credentials and information
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: implement what it means to be a player
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe you have classes and races and whatever
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe you have combat
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have combat, you need things to fight
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and you need combat skills
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you probably need a way for players to talk to each other
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: channels at least
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: notes if you want to be generous, but then you need a note writing system
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: That's all things I would do in time. Right now I'm just doing some research into what would be the best way.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no programmer with experience ever thinks that there's a best way
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so maybe this means that you're inexperienced as a programmer, which means it's going to be tough
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: Not inexperienced, just never done anything with telnet before. Most of what I do now is systems integrations.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suppose the first thing you should do is decide what language you want to work in
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: C# .net 4 at a minimum
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so go implement a telnet server in that language
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: pfft, programmers with experience always think theres a best way - its just that their way sucks :p
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: I run into that a lot at work. One person thinks yoda code is the best way, one person thinks that abstracting everything is the best way, one person wants it all in interfaces with loose references.... our code base is a nightmare to deal with
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: malbolge.  'nuff said.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: experience teaches you that there's no such thing as best. there is good enough.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Something can ALWAYS be improved upon.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: Make it work, make it as clean as possible, make it easily understood by the next person. That's pretty much all I care about. Try not to tie things too strongly together so you can get unit/integration testing.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there are too many ways to accomplish the goal of "making a MUD". The scope of that task is too large to say that anything is best
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: Game development is something I've been interested in, but enterprise software is what I know. Figured a mud, ignoring graphics, would be a good place to start.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: high-clay content soil and water.  fast, easy, boom.
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd probably make a non-mud that has no graphics
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Start with a rogue
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Why not create the next Zork, then?
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you might be better off starting with a single-player game
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: I did a single player mud-like game 20 years ago in qbasic. 
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I made a little man dance in apple basic once
T3/r7/2018-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: compared to what we have now, basic is horrible. Back then it was awesome.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: things are just things
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I'd say basic fills the same role it always has.  20 years ago it wasn't awesome, it was easy to learn.  20 years ago was at least 5-6 years after the first diku mud.. all written in c not basic
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ive done some fantastic work in ti-basic.  ran a bit slow, but still fun to work with.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: with the modern frameworks though, a lot of the leg work is done for you. Why write a DAL when you can use Dapper or Entity Framework
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: funzies?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: Unfortunately, a lot of the knowledge of creating the old libraries that are now all built in is going away
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Though that brings up a point about writing your own framework for a mud.  You can get coffee mud and tweak it from there.  Or lots of other codebases.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: I found one called WHeelMud
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not in .net though
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: true.. coffee is java?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: to convert to .net if it's java isn't that much of a stretch though. I learned C# because I learned Java and already knew the .net backbone from VB.Net
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: its probably a good source to download. If your interested in writing it all from scratch it might make a good reference if you get stuck
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: does anyone know of a script, other than blumalice, that tracks potions/staves?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: where i can find a guide for mapping portals using a master alias + variables?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: does anyone have an item curse remove script?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: cast remove curse repeatedly ;)
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: yeah, it gets boring rather fast :)
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I would make triggers for the various 'remove curse' messages - the success and fail messages should 'cast 70' again, while the "You have no items that can be uncursed" does nothing as there is nothing more to do.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: That should result in all your cursed items being uncursed, and when they all are, it should terminate automatically
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: thanks for the idea
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andrus Ansip Tech: how is so in mush, i did change in plugin and used reinstall button error came and then plugin is gone at all?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: If it has a parse error, you have to Re-Add it
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: If it's malformed enough, it can't parse the file and will no longer show in the list
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Well fix the error first
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Andrus Ansip Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I'm having a bit of trouble setting up/understanding triggers, anyone available to help?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Sure
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I'd like to set up one that plays a song when I can quest again, but it doesn't seem to work and I can figure out why.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: What is your pattern? Using AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Pattern?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: When you create a Trigger, the "Trigger:" box, what do you have in there
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the trigger definition window, in the "sound" section, did you click "Test"?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without the "QUEST: ", the pattern is wrong
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the default matching type (glob) is fully-anchored by default
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: only if he clicked to convert to regex, which you should
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should absolutely never click convert to regex
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that button should be removed from the client it's so bad to use :P
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you want to use regex, you should write a regex and click the regular expressions checkbox on the right-hand side, not write a glob and click convert to regex
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: so it only works if it matches the whole line?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but for this pattern, there's zero reason to have it be a regex, as it's a simple non-changing text (and even less reason to "convert" it to regex
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it only works if it matches the whole line, or if you put in wildcards to allow for it to not match the whole line (*s)
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: You want it to watch the whole line, if it didn't then I could trigger your trigger
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or if you use regex
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people used to royally mess with other people's hunt triggers because most of them were written non-anchored
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the old trigger pattern of "* is * from here." to send <second *>, people would do "tech is gossip I'm a loser who can't write trigs from here" because that first * would "eat" the tech part
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone remind me. is it %1 or $1 for the value of a trigger capture?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: %1
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think * connects to %1
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: percentage one
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: .* * * -> %1 %2 %3
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: if its mush clients trigger, its %1, if blowtorch its $1
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Do socials go through gmcp as well?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well if on channelsthey do, but not rsocials
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: How are those sent then?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Tags?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rsocials just have a magenta or dark cyan asterisk
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why, what's up
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: How does it get get sent then
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just like regular output
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Are there any good Android apps for MUD:ing? I know it'll probably be extremely barebones, but I'd like the option for some light MUD:ding on the go.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Since you asked for 'good' apps, the answer is no. There are no good ones.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Aardwolf has its own app in Play Store.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Personally, I just remote into my laptop and use MUSH from my phone.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah, but I'm about to go on a 5 day trip to another country. Probably not going to leave my computer on while I'm gone.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Then search for Aardwolf RPG.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Or search Blowtorch.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Found it. I guess it'll have to do. Does it support aliases?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Use MUDside aliases.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Say what? Never knew this was a thing. When did we get it?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Aliases have always been possible in Aardwolf (at least, as long as I've been playing, for 11 years). But now you can stack in them.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Stacking is recent (relatively speaking) but aliases have always been present.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I think that I turned my mouse touchpad off on accident....anyone have a clue how to turn it back on?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's different on every laptop. Check for a key you press with Function to reactivate it (probably one of the F-keys)
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No idea, Amya, without the type of laptop, etc. that you have.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: on my laptop you  cant disable the touchpad at all 
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: My work laptop has the WORST touchpad I've ever had the displeasure to use. It doesn't have separate buttons, just the corner of the touchpad clicks down. UGH.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: You can on this one...I found how to turn it back on in settings
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: luckily my laptop is touchscreen anyway!
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: hey. Introducing a friend to aardwolf, and this friend doesn't like playing without a soundpack. Do you know where I can direct them to go if we both use mush, to find winklewinkles?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pwar
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pwar has been working on a much better one
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think he just posted about it recently
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Winkle's stuff is unmaintained and pretty out of date.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: omg there's a new one?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Link is available in 'whois pwar'
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: board general, note 27393
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: I'm still using winkle!
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yeah. I've been talking to him about it. It sounds like he's doing some really neat stuff. As soon as he decides, I'm going to be integrating it into the aardwolf mushclient package.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: decides?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well it's up to him to decide when it's ready
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: we have to figure out a way to streamline the process of me merging his updates
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: oh. it's not ready? can't use it yet? or just not ready to be integrated?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is ready for you, just not for me :)
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: oh! excited now. maybe my friend and I'll both have to play with it lol
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: omg that site is sloooooooow
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: and how might I uninstall the ones I've got?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You don't even have to uninstall the one you have, just disable it in the plugin manager. Control-shift-P
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just put pwar's sound files in your sounds folder and then replace the winklewinkle plugin with pwar's plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh man the level up shoulda been super mario.  i may have to change some of these sound files
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I like the code he did, I question his choice of sounds
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you know the noise when you get a mushroom
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: http://themushroomkingdom.net/sounds/wav/smb3/smb3_power-up.wav
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: to me, whenever I image leveling, it's always EQ's sound
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It should be relatively easy to put together themed sound packs
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok i want to suggest battle vs idle vs speedwalk music
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Like background music?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: background music is fine if you're not listening for text
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im going to install this, so i can see exactly what the real world sounds like so to speak
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: some odd sounds i agree
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like everything else, nobody's going to have the same taste
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if someone with a golden ear wants to put together a set of sounds, I'm sure he'd appreciate the help
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Needs a way to share sound packs easily
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just keep the names and overwrite the files
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Pffft, that's not 'easily'. If I said Hey Fiendish, check out my pack of bird sounds and farts, and you had to actually overwrite shiz you'd never try it.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: fair point
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and all of a sudden, i am intrigued.
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well the Boss says i have to turn off the soundpack or get headphones :(
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh my [QUEST]
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: error loading aardwolf soundpack?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion just did it. What error?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: Line  632: Error parsing script (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: lol does that help?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: and if my friend has their mush client in documents, would the pack still work?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it should work. does it come with instructions?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: only the ones in the note
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need to paste everything in "sounds" folder to mushclient/sounds.  did you do that?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: oh. wait wsounds. sec let me see
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: I extracted it to mush client. does that mean I have to find everything and get it out or is ther a folder?
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if the extraction failed somehow
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: perhaps didnt merge sounds folder
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: no I think I messed up, if it's not in sounds
T3/r7/2018-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try extracting it to its own place, then put all the sound files in your MUSHclient/sounds folder and then put the plugin in your MUSHclient/worlds/plugins folder
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: fiendish, i want the ability to flag a room as norecall or noportal in the bimap by right-clicking on it.  thank you.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: #metoo
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: noted
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i always give up on setting flags once i successfully get out of an area :p
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I want it on tintin though. Thank you.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can you port that to telnet too?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: already in progress
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: excellent
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Say thank you!
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i want to be able to add metrics so that it has preferential path depending on where i am and which direction i want to go.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try playing the game instead
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: icecool calls those macros, negader
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: others call it pupbot
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi hi. what is a good unzip folder for phones please? 
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i need to unzip a plugins folder for blowtorch. But keep getting a meggase that say cant open file
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: lol don't get it. All the sounds are in my sounds folder, and my plugin's in the worlds\plugins folder and I still get an error adding the aardwolf soundpack folder. 
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: er plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: post the full error in a note or on pastebin.com please
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe there's something in it that will give us a clue
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: yeah. I've been reading the extremely long error. lol it's hard talking like this without sounds
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: oh you said pass it. let's wsee
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: done. I sent it to you
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: ah?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where did you get mushclient from?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: it's the one from alter aeon. I have another that is the aardmush but it's not in my root folder. it's in ocuments.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so the important part of this error message is "module 'gmcphelper' not found" 
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gmcphelper is part of the aardwolf package
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: and I'm VI so I thought aardmush or other didn't mean much
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it means more than you thought ^_^
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah. there's more to it than just graphical stuff
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: thought it was just mapping stuff lol
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well now you know :)
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: so should I try it in aardmush? do I have to move aard to my C:\ folder? pain in the neck but I can do it.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't care where you have your "aardmush", but pwar's soundpack needs it
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: ok. so location doesn't matter. good.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's the problem
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: be back!
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: test!
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: dangit
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: error?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it's not working still, try messaging pwar
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: ooh think I got it working.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: the battle sound is working but the tech one is giving me az  traceback
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd contact pwar
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: most people don't have this much trouble with it
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: well my earlier probelm is solved. idk what's wrong now. 
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/3/16844630/intel-processor-security-flaw-bug-kernel-windows-linux
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: go AMD!
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: AMD stock is up big today
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: intel cpus are good for offline gaming from now on
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the best
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: this is actually pretty insane, a report states that the bug fix slowed down postgresql queries by ~20%
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: that's not gaming though :P
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it will hit virtualization and db hosts hardest
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CoffeeBreak nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: But I imagine that Amazon cloud services might be looking at their business agreements right now
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I lose one frame per second I will sue Intel for a hundred billion dollars
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: just never update your windows again
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: which is a great idea!
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I'm being honest I have no idea how to permanently disable updateson Windows 10
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: it's probably better to keep them going, some of those security fixes are crucial I hear
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 30% I would consider using not patched kernel with such performance loss
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: it's only hits I/O, not sure if an end-user would notice anything
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: first part is entirely from my flawed understanding of the situation
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I/O in terms of memory I/O and HDD I/O ?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure, if you're offline and only running signed code
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: should buy an amd chip or 10 just in case. tomorrow
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: because in a week, these will cost 2x more
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unlikely
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I'm reading the article, trachx, and I see this: "These KPTI patches move the kernel into a completely separate address space"
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: wanna bet?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: so I gather that syscalls will be slower
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: "The downside to this separation is that it is relatively expensive, time wise, to keep switching between two separate address spaces for every system call and for every interrupt from the hardware."
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: so I may be wrong, it might be a noticable slowdown
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: shrug, I can't even update my kernel because AMD decides that they don't give two damns about their gpu drivers for linux!
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: they should patch Intel microcode
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: "the flaw is in the Intel x86-64 hardware, and it appears a microcode update can't address it"
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not everything can be fixed in microcode
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm sure that if this could be, it would
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what about nanocode
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: pico
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the quantumn code fix is already there unless you look for it
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that this vulnerability is local, I mean requires user account to exploit
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Question is whether exploits can be remotely done or do they require server access
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 20% or more performance loss in such case is not acceptable trade-off
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: but can you login by only hitting enter a few times :)?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: "At worst, the hole could be abused by programs and logged-in users to read the contents of the kernel's memory"
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I would prefer to have a choice like echo "1" > /proc/sys/cpu/accessible_kernel
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if it's that unlikely that it gets exploited I hope there's a way to disable the fix
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: from what I've read, unless you run a database or VMs you won't see that big a performance loss
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Ya, there's plenty of other local exploits generally anyway
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when you have a server almost 100% you run there some database or vm
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so maybe desktop user won't notice any performance loss, especially if he/she just browses web
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: sure, servers yeah
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: I'm sure Amazon is happy, but it'll impact very few regular users
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, we have some aging servers at work that I'm worried about.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my concern is servers, now I consider that maybe useing CentOS/RHEL 6 is better idea than using most recent line (7.x)
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: 10+ years old? ;p Then they're old enough to no be impacted
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: the reward for each piece is small
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: they may be older than 10, actually :p I think 7-8 though.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: can't you get servers without intel processors?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: or does intel rule that industry
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: intel's market share is massive and the switching costs are big
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you want to use Intel's if you use x86
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: latest AMD processors are good, but last few years intel has been dominating
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the irony is that after ryzen, intel started crapping on amd
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: I wouldn't recommend disabling the patch (if that is ever even offered in /proc/sys/cpu ...).  JavaScript running in your browser could potentially read passwords or keys from kernel memory.  That's just not worth the risk to me.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think it's been demonstrated with javascript yet, but it is probably only a matter of time, since they managed to make a JS rowhammer attack.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also Power or Sparc are not really an alternative to Intel's in most cases
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Does anyone know a good unzipping app for Android that isn't shady?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i got lucky and found a file manager that has one built in
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I think I used ZArchiver
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but github also lets you download the xml files in a round about way
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but one at a time, only
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: i use rar arcviver
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: archiver
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Anyone know how to get my computer to stop switching to candian french?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Keyboard layout that is
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Probably have to set your locale to whatever you want for the keyboard layout.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: My locale is set to where I live in Ontario.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: but seems every one in awhile my computer insists I'm french and switches
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: maybe you're accidentally pressing the keybind to switch keyboard layout?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: that's ctrl space iirc
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Well ctrl space doesn't do it.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Remove that language from the language thingy in windows
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: How do I remove it?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Right click the keyboard thingy at the bottom/right corner of your screen
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Some options
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: You can do it!
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Does anyone here use PulseSecure VPN clients?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Gritz: mac os or windows?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I use windows.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: version?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: 10
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Though I kinda wanna rollback to 7. :P
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: upgrade to xp.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Roll WAY back to Millenium
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe check out https://superuser.com/questions/976947/keyboard-language-keeps-changing-in-windows-10
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Why stop there? Go back to 3.0
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: better to just slit your wrists, millenium was an unmitigated disaster.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: pfft, 3.11 for workgroups - much nicer.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: tho really, if you want to go classic like that, i would recommend nt 3.51
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: home
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Derp
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: It's not me changing it, and now that I know why it happens it's not a big deal to change back
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://superuser.com/questions/602788/how-to-disable-automatic-keyboard-layout-change-in-windows-8   <- for windows 8, but maybe also 10?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh never mind
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's no solution there
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kiss my Gritznakka smiles happily.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: mush is the solution
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Plus I don't switch between keyboard layouts.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I just want it to stick to english, I've never wanted it to be french layout
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so remove french layout from the choices
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you get the choices down to just english then it can't switch
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: remouvez-vous francais avec choicewaz
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: quoi?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not avec
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Yea, I don't know how to remove the french keyboard option.
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Really? Avec is the word you take issue with out of that mess?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you know how to get to this screen? https://i.stack.imgur.com/BCenV.png
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and if so, do you see french in it?
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also maybe https://superuser.com/questions/957552/how-to-delete-a-keyboard-layout-in-windows-10
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also maybe https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-desktop/how-to-remove-keyboard-layout-on-windows-10/9f021621-0e93-401e-a086-835e942b967e
T3/r7/2018-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hallo all. blowtorch question again. i want to set up a button that i can use for a hunt trick plugin. But if i press the button it must only popup the keyboard so i can add a mobname to the already given command. any one know how please?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Fiendish, you here buddy? Can you help me come up with a trigger to gag your pk death messages?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ^(\[.+\] )?INFO: Fiendish's journalistic integrity crumbles in the affair known.+$
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Once Tech: how do iset it so i use chrome to open a web link insted of explorer/
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that regexp doesnt prevent the death message from appear in the comms window
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 'sendgmcp config autoloot' in mushclient seems to not work for me.  I have no idea why.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Anyone know why 'sendgmcp config autoloot' won't work for me?  It's part of the GMCP handler plugin.  I'm looking at it now, but I don't know enough about out-of-band telnet stuff to find the problem.  Added some debug/tracing code and the alias is passing its arguments to the send_gmcp function, but for some reason the function is either not passing that data to the mud, or mushclient isn't displaying whatever data the mud returns.  Stumped.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, anyway, if someone sees this (in tech -h) let me know what's going on, if you know.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for whoever might be interested, more details on meltdown are available in a couple of articles on slashdot.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and some smart comments on some of them.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zhalut: my text substitutions plugin can do gags that will also affect the comm log
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zekzaer Tech: anyone on blowtorch know how to set up a wildcard for spells?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: in 'help gmcpconfig' the 'sendgmcp config autoloot' doesn't return anything.  Afaik, the GMCP handler isn't even sending the data to the mud.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Is the helpfile wrong, or is the gmcp handler broken, or am I missing something obvious?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's strange
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I swear I'd implemented using gmcp to check compact
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: if I factory restore my friend's laptop, when we restart it again will she have to remember her old password or will a new account need to be made?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Depends on what you mean by "factory restore"
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: clear everything out, as though it were new
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think you just answered your own question.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: new account. I just restored to factory settings and you have to go thru everything like when ir xa,w pir pd rjw vpz
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ah yea, I hate when ir xa, w pir pd rjw vpz happens.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah  ir xa,w pir pd rjw vpz is the worst
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: wtf is ir xa, w stuff?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's Mique typing without fingers properly on the home keys :D
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: yeah something like that
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: porn on one tab and aard on the other?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one for each eye
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: okay just for final confirmatiion. PC cant be accessed due to forgotton password, factory restoring the PC will remove this issue?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It'll remove EVERYTHING, including any documents you may be trying to recover. It's a step of last resort.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it will remove every issue except not having any of your files
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Putting a microwave transformer across it will also remove the issue.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You forgot me!
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: awwww
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling pouts. 
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: <----
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts Real ninja Starling.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you still get a restore
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I was already at max hp!
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm. there's no handbra social
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throxx Tech: ok,? on the phone app, I can't seem to edit/delete a button I moved to top of screen  in one of my button sets? causes screen to close
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you gotta hold it down
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: press and hold until it jumps
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throxx Tech: can't, it won't light up, in just closed the aard game screen and goes back to blowtorch page
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throxx Tech: I deleted the default buttons and built my own sets, because several were under the gears and checkmark, uneditable
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know how to turn off on Bast's plugins the information after killing a mob?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disable Statmonitor?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a way to turn off that aspect while keeping the information.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what shows?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Dam Type             :    Hits      Damage   (  0%)   Misses    Average 
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: isnt that the reportminutes?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have statmn showevents as false, but it still shows.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i thought was default 30 mins
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The command for that plugin is statmn, but looking at statmn set, I don't see a setting.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nm thats not exp report
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I was looking for it in the documentation, but I had not luck.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think you'd have to edit the plugin directly or convince Bast to make it a toggle
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a way to toggle it.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ah, it's not statmon it's combat tracker
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hrmmm....btr ....I cannot find the way to turn it off.....
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just disable that particular plugin?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i'm looking at the plugin now, i see no way to disable the report
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its only purpose is to display what is broadcast from your kills, so may as well just disable/remove it
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a way for mapper to automatically pull up the runto for the room when u 'where' a mob?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: nope. mapper has no idea what mobs are in a room
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: search & destroy does that
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although that's essentially what S&D does
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Mapper doesn't need to know what mobs are in what room if you're using where
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ahh gotcha, i didnt know if i did like 'where dog' and it says doh and the room its in theni icould just run to it.  but s&d desnt work on quests or just eneral where info
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D's commands work on quests
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you typing "where" or "wh"
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: and general where info.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: where
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or qw
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: use qw <mob>
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: qw does current target right
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: fantastic
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: fantastic
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Does last mob, or accepts an argument.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i just hate typing "qw" so awkward :p
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ...
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: #alias {wh *} {qw %1}
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias <whatever you want> to qw
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has to be a MUSH alias, and has to be set to execute
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno how 2 adjacent keys would be awkward though
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Especially since they are different fingers.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You don't use Dvorak keyboard?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well it is the little finger, q isn't the easiest letter to type for some folks.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I have fat fingers and I type it just fine.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I type with almost only my left hand
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I really don't want to know
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: His right hand has 3 fingers missing.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Way to be an ass.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria rolls his eyes in disgust at Rex Daemon Crowley.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I taught myself to type when I was pretty young, I'm left-handed...I can type around 70wpm with my right hand only doing things like shift, enter and delete
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: With what layout?? That can't be with QWERTY
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: qwerty
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You should make a video of that, that's messed up
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some day maybe
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Heh, clannie of mine doesn't use standard home row keys, and instead is pretty shifted, but types upwards to 100wpm.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: cant believe i didnt know th qw ommand!
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try "ww help" ;-)
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whast the hep file for s&d
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ww
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: I am embarrased for you..
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So I'm relatively pissed at my old college. Recently, they had some issues with their student emails. They fixed it. I still couldn't access mine. Contacted tech support. "Oh, you're a graduate. Our policy is to deactivate graduate emails 6 months after." That was never a policy before, and I had important documents relating to court cases in my email... 
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: They also gave no warning whatsoever they were going to deactivate it, otherwise I'd have spent all day backing up the information.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You have important documents in an email at an institution you're no longer paying, and you're pissed at them?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Could be worse, my wife is trying to get transcripts from a UK college she went to 10 years ago and they claim they delete all records after 6 years
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yes, because when I was going to school, they said the emails would never expire (most schools don't seem to delete old graduate accounts; I still have my high school email address active). On top of that, considering it was a vocational school, and we were encouraged to keep in contact with the counselors and use that email address for LinkedIn? I'd say I have a right to be pissed.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Only proof she has is a crappy deploma that anyone could do in word in about 2 minutes
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I wouldn't have been so pissed if they had sent an email saying, "Hey, our policy has changed and we're deactiving graduate accounts older than 6 months. But we're giving you time to back up your emails so you can keep them, and your contacts, too."
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley comforts ParaLogiki Daak.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Do yuo think they're feeding you a line because they actually messed up? That's what we feel like.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I told them that they need to restore the account and allow me to back up the documents, especially those I need for court, otherwise I would get a lawyer involved.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: We'll see how it goes.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Best of luck.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty sure I still have, somewhere, the college day brochures about "lifetime email addresses"
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should always use an email program to access emails...that puts all of the emails onto your computer and the provider doesn't matter...
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Abelinc: Normally, I do. I have Fossamail. But a few months back, something went wonky, and I just stopped using it at the time. Microsoft 365, couldn't find the settings needed to update my client.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: or office365, that is.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the cloud is only good when you build in your own redundancy...lots of companies and even government entities permanently lost important documents when megashare got shut down (I'm getting the name wrong, but it was something like that...think it was one of kim dot com's)
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So not all is completely lost, but I no longer have access to the contact information and anything that's been sent in the past 5-6 months.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The cloud is just someone else's computer
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades gasps as he realizes what Birdbrain Metria did.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it's not fluffy>
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and esoteric?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think it was megaupload.com, Abelinc
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's it!
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: are you the cloud repository, abelinc?
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The cloud repository could use a suppository!
T3/r7/2018-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: then its portable, good idea
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirasor Tech: why is xcp 1 only working sometimes in search and destroy
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirasor Tech: sometimes it only brings up the mob name like i did a where xxx command
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: anyone know how to get the group window back
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Specific to the group window is the command: groupon (to show) and groupoff (to hide)
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: any good deals on groupon?
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Not anymore ;p
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: is there a help command for group window ?
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Not really, what you trying to do?
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: find out where you found that information heh
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: will help me to remember commands
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: I looked in the xml file
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: cool thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: aard_group_monitor_gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: <alias> section
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: the resetaard command hits a bunch of the plugin windows, so it works well enough too
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: newer versions of the mushclient package have miniwindow layout save and restore methods
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Is there a helpfile explaining the usage for the save/restore layout options?  That sounds handy for using the same installation on a desktop and a laptop with different screen sizes.
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aard layout help
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Awesome.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pwar and I are talking about how to unify a help system for my mushclient plugin commands
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: because i actually like Rhuli's area the most. but its not influential. not one bit
T3/r7/2018-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: is there a way to set a trigger from a text generated by a plugin?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: my events window constantly shows gq when there is none , is there a way to reset it
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: anyone savvy in win10 on?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: whatcha need?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: not claiming I am but I know my ways around windows a bit
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: wont boot...got into the admin window but no idea what commands
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Preuk Tech: you coudl try downloading some linux ditro and run a few diags tool from it just to make sure it's not hardware problem
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Preuk Tech: rescatux is nice for windows repairing
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: this might be a good time to upgrade to xp - at least you wont have to worry about bill gates unexpectedly 'upgrading' your system and breaking something.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Anyone ever see mushclient trying to access invalid memory addresses?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am guessing one of my scripts is causing it, but I cant seem to track it down. 
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: send me a disk :) im busy paying fir life right now
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: never heard of fir life
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: i live in a pine tree
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone know the help file that tells you what the information for the affects tags are?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: help spelltags?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: np
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc waits for the announcement of yet another spellup plugin }:>
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Abelinc, can you predict the future?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta ask robbo!
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am not making a spellup plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Get yer spellup plugin here!
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: <--rebel, uses non-portable, client-specific, non-plugin spellup utility.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <--- uses 2 separate spellup scripts at once
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: <--- uses telnet on a vt100
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: <-- uses the spellup command =P
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: <--- doesn't care what you use.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa lets off a real rip-roarer ... a greenish cloud envelops KoopaTroopa!
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: <--- Is this how we talk from now on?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: <--- Hi
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: bah, spellup command is old tech - doesnt include racial invis or potions :p
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i am trying to create a trigger from a text generated from a plugin, but the trigger cant detect the text. is there a way to make the trigger detect text not from mud but from plugin?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: why have a trigger on a trigger? just have the first one issue the command.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Text printed from plugins are rarely triggerable.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Unless the plugin uses Simulate rather than ColourNote or even Note/print, you won't succeed.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Rhendadric: no, only with a plugin callback that fires every time the screen updates, not with a trigger
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: could change the first trigger to have it send an echo command to the mud, then trigger on the echo output from the mud.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what text are you trying to trigger on, Rhendadric?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: ok, i understand what you guys are saying. S&D sends this text You are already in that room - this is what i want to trigger 
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: S&D does not send that text.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's text directly from the mapper that Fiendish wrote.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i thought that comes from S&D because it comes after the nx command
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's because S&D uses functions from the mapper.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: oh
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: so, i still cant make a trigger from that text?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you intend to do with that trigger?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i want to trigger that text to disable a prev trigger
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, what does THAT trigger do? what is the real function that you're looking to have?
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Always amuses me when people go silent with what their intentions are. I get that sometimes, you want your plugin to be a secret because you don't want anyone to steal your ideas, but... it's suspect that you're attempting something you're afraid is illegal. :p
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The CPU chip bug has been there since the beginning at this discussion.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: piggybacking from Immt... Any of you script-heads have an IDE for LUA? MUSHClient has basic functionality but I'm spoiled and looking for a decent IDE.
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I use vscode
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sublime text
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: ^
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: vim
T3/r7/2018-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: notepad++
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: vscode is pretty good.
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: An IDE won't really help you, since a Lua runtime debugger won't actually work for most things meant to run inside MUSHclient because it doesn't have the MUSHclient API functions. But vscode is a fantastic editor
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I used Sublime for years, but switched to VSCode recently.
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I can second the mention of notepad++ it works very well at what it does
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and Microsoft is both extremely responsive to bug reports and also develops it very rapidly
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I reported an issue in vscode once and was in a dedicated screen-sharing session with one of their core developers the next day from my office
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nice.
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: can you run lua programs in vscode?
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but, like I said, it won't help you for anything specific to MUSHclient
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Has the best indentation algorithm I've seen, too.
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it also does syntax highlighting better than sublimetext
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll have to look into vscode. Is it freeware?
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is free software
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not the same as freeware
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: They have ports for every OS too, which is good
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the only real complaint is that it takes relatively a lot of RAM 
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but that's true of everything made with electron
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, it comes from https://code.visualstudio.com/
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or, if like me you want changes faster, https://code.visualstudio.com/insiders/
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys. anyone mind to please send me a link for a pup/qp/gq/cp timer that works on older versions of mushclient? no lua  
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Microsoft is (again) trying to launch Windows on non-x86 architectures.
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: And while I get that it won't have the (dumb) limitations of Windows RT, won't it have the same issue? As in noone will compile the software for the new arch?
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cerashor: why?
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: in mushclient, can you have a trigger fire from the output of colourNote?
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If the output is a note, the only way to read it subsequently is with a plugin callback function that fires every time the screen updates
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want to be able to trigger on emitted text, it has to be emitted with Simulate instead of ColourNote
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: executed commands can be triggered on also
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so like, first of all, an executed command isn't automatically emitted text. and secondly, why would you do that?
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hey, sometimes you have to just do what you have to do :)
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throxx Tech: If i want to import my MUSHclient settings from one computer to another, do i just need the 2 .mcl files under "worlds" ?
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You'll also want all the .db files
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why not copy the whole mushclient folder over?
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you do what you're planning, you may also want all of the plugin state files, and you will also want the map and settings database files
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and maybe the ini file
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: different things are stored in different places
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throxx Tech: what i realy want is all the changes i made to fonts on the screen, i like how i have it now
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's in the world file
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then yeah, why not just transfer the entire mushclient folder? it's portable.
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well it's not ALL in the world file, miniwindow fonts would be in the respective plugin state files, no?
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: man, what a hassle
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just copy the folder
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i third the copy the whole folder thing
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: any one know if you can put buttons in to a plugin for blowtorch?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: can
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: using it for ages
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: check out github.com/blockda
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: Long press button open Button Menu.
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: If you dont see any visible buttons yet, click Blowtorch upper right drop down menu, and select Button set, create and name a new set.
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: HI guys. just want to know if there is a plugin that doesnt need lua, that includes a level/quest/pup/gq/quest/cp timer? please send me a link to download. thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: not what i mean... i want the buttonset defined in a plugin, which when i then load will appear when you switch to that buttonset
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: I dont think thats possible, yet
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: Blowtorch is not so customizable as Mush.
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: sigh, well i guess it is copy paste time then. if only working on a tablet wasn't so hamstrung
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: well, it's a lot more intuitive. buttons rule
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: Yeah, might try a blue tooth keyboard? It will improve your mudding allot.
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: it would improve my typing, not my mudding
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can export/import configs in blowtorch, and can use an alias to switch buttonsets
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: i have a ton of buttonsets, I'd just like to be able to standardise them across alts more easily
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, so use the export/import functionality
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: Hope you got all your aliases,triggers on all your .xml files. It will be such a hassle to tweak all of them.
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: doesn't import replace everything, so you can't just import 1 buttonset and keep all the others?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you export and import...
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: import export not only handle buttons, but all your other stuff like aliases. So if you make new triggers or aliases you will havw to update all saved files..
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: umm biker are you suggesting using an alias to import?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I'm suggesting that you use the export/import functionality to get your buttonsets on all characters consistent to where you want them...then you use an alias to switch what buttonsets you're using at appropriate times
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: Biker, yeah i was hoping i could do thst with a plugin. much less copy paste required
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's MUCH easier this way than in a plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: and i have buttons to switch between buttonsets but an alias might be useful too
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: making the buttons in plugin would be insanely tedious compared with what you can do in a text editor
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: I'd be doing both in a text editor, so what is the difference?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: Does a Usb Tv tuner card have connections for satelite decoder ?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: no idea, google it
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: Nod, wanna record live tv :P
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: It probably depends on the usb tuner.  I've used an eyeTV for ages and it just has a coax connection to pull signals from an antenna.
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: no idea, google ittech  If you have HD capable Dish reciever, you can use the Hauppauge HD PVR 250 USB. Many other USB TV Tuner sticks, but the feature you will need is NTSC (the thick coaxial cable) or Analog AV (RCA jacks) http://hauppauge.com/. Some come with IR blasters that let your computer change the channels .
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: Cool, since im planning to get a laptop, an Usb tuner is the only option to record HD tv shows, I guess the more pricy tuners will have that feature
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: no idea, google ittech  If you have HD capable Dish reciever, you can use the Hauppauge HD PVR 250 USB. Many other USB TV Tuner sticks, but the feature you will need is NTSC (the thick coaxial cable) or Analog AV (RCA jacks) http://hauppauge.com/. Some come with IR blasters that let your computer change the channels .tech that'd be my guess
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: oops
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PvP K!ng Cackle Tech: gotcha, thanks 
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: how do you get to show the tick timer in the new version of mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duel K!ng Stronger Tech: Install tick timer plugin for every one thats curious.
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: provide a link if you suguest that please?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: It should ship with the client
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duel K!ng Stronger Tech: Fiendish send mine to my email
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: it shows the tick timer in window but not on client itself..
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aardwolf_tick_timer
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duel K!ng Stronger Tech: new mush dont got tick timer...
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can get tick plugin from older mush
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Strange, I wonder why it was discontinued
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Fiendish explained that
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duel K!ng Stronger Tech: its a very handy plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: is there a sound plugin too for the new client?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: [21 Aug 21:35:12] Long Time Fiendish Tech: trachx: because the status area at the bottom of the screen isn't really the right place for a persistent message like time to next tick :\ 
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: i see,, though it would be nice to have a variety of plugins to add to it. specialy coming from older versions..
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: well then i'll just stick to the old versions, they still seem to work better :p
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darvius Tech: hello folks, I was wondering what file contains the map files on mush so I can transfer from one computer to another
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Just copy your whole mushclient folder
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient is portable
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: fiendish thats not entirely true
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You're talking about the full path to plugins thing? 
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darvius Tech: thanks much, and thats awesome that it's portable.
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the plugins links internally break
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes, sorry for the repeat was holding a 5 month old
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that only happens if you manually put full paths in or have a world file leftover from a much older version of mushclient
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: My world file only has relative paths in it
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throxx Tech: yeah, I just put the whole thing on a usb drive and put it on other computer last nigh
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have never had one that had relative links
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: plugins list is at the end of this file https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's just plugin file names
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: even if I load something else, like Bast plugins, it saves as <include name="Bast\update_checker.xml" plugin="y" />
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: all relative to the immediate plugin folder
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if you have sounds or a script file they will be hard coded also
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that might be true
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's interesting. I'll look into that one
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does .. work in that file?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so for sounds I would need ../sounds/beep.wav
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: I keep mush on a dropbox folder and just access that from whichever computer I happen to be on.  You can even hit it through wine on a max or natively in windows.  Are you saying that I can't do that if I would ever use bast plugins or sound files?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not sure if putting the .. would break it
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're right about the script file name. I'm going to message Nick about that to see about getting it replaced with a relative path
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if the script file is inside the mushclient directory
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: sorry, never mind.  I misread the history :)
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so back to square one for me :(
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Tol: no, just update those few hard links
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: until we work out a solution
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: your world file plugins should still be listed with relative paths. I mean, within technological limits. If you have them on a different drive entirely then I have no idea what windows will need
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aye, thats what I do
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats the setting in mush to allow u to post something thats a pretty long noite without timing out?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: us there an equivalent of Execute() for Blowtorch, currently all I've seen is sendtoserver()
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: without timing out?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok so i resetaard on my mushclient, and a couple windows i use are gone.  i reinstalled the plugins but they wont come back.  like search and destroy
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: how do i find this "invmon"
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which invmon?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: that's one. what are the others?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Varrion: provide the rest of the message
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or is that all you see?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, bit of advice, "not found or had a previous error" 99.9% of the time means "had a previous error". go find the previous error message.
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus is agreeing with that Long Time Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i think they are off the screen, like i thre em to the right way far!  
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i am on a ma which has cloud saves and i was on a bigger monitor
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: threw which windows?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: oops
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: if you're switching monitor sizes, I recommend 'aard layout help' after we fix this
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: would be search and destroy mainly, trying to think of what else i would have.  i have a data window too
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i think they are like off the map
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: is it givin you an Xset error when it loads?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i dont think so
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: I had that before, reload the mapper extender maybe?
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: it has to do with the xeqDB plugin , ive tried reinstalling
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: no clue ill worry bout it tomorrow i guess
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: worst case you can delete your plugin state files
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's where miniwindow coordinates are stored
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: I don't see any reset functions for SnD GUI
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yea, i have mush on my work pc so ill upload the mush folder to my amazon cloud and just replace this
T3/r7/2018-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the reset for the S&D gui is "xset reset gui"...although if you're running Starling's version, it shouldn't let the miniwindow be off the screen in the first place
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: anyone know the ins and outs of the mapper AI? I'm curious to know when it decides to use regular exits as opposed to  when it decides to use portals. for example, if I have to go 3s2w4n, is the mapper going to run me 3s2w4n, or use a portal to get me 2s of my destination and then walk me 2n to get there? is there some sort of logarithm that calculates all that out?
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: portals are * to #### so its 1 exit to get to the destination
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: not claiming that my answer is correct, I would expect it that it is decided by the A* algorithm in use.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i'm not even sure it would favor 1->east->2 over 1->portal->2  but i know it uses exits tables to figure path and anything to portal landing is 1 unless the start room is noportal flagged
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: should be easy enuff to check - stand 1 room away from a portal dest, and see which it selects.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: repeat for the other 5 directions, if you want a wider sample base.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what if there's only 2 exits to that room?
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sorry just saying i didnt know, not that i wanted to test :)
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: then pick a different test room, neh?
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: true enough, I never thought of doing that.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GutterMind Morgase Tech: hi, how do i get it to make sound when someone pages me
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: do you mean tech
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: sorry I meant tell
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GutterMind Morgase Tech: uhm, i meant like when you're afk and someone pages you
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GutterMind Morgase Tech: mine doesn't want to make a noise yet it makes a sound for quests
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: There a way to get a mapper where with portals disabled?
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can walk the path without portals, but currently, no way to show the path without portals. Maybe ask Fiendish to add a <noportal> option.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: mapper where <roomid> noportal
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: yes but you need to read mapper help all to find it
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: k, I'll just use walkto then
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Galehad: He wants to see the path, not just walk the path.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: There's currently no option to display the path without portals involved.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: been a while but i was sure there was a wsy
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I mean, I suppose if you wanted to, you could create a backup, mapper purge portals, do the mapper where, then restore the backup, but that seems tedious.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Well, I set the portal in question to level lock 600
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Daak: That doesn't always work, because it'll find the next portal that's closest.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: but didn't help since I also passed through 2 others (aard and sohtwo) first... so I just used walkto
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Ya
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But yeah, bring it up with Fiendish next time.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Obviously, the code is in there for walkto, so it should be a relatively painless process to add a 'noportal' or 'walkto' option.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone here fly quads?  I need a new TX, and was curious what others used?
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SolFist Tech: Spellup Plugin anyone ?
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So many to choose from.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: I just use the one that comes with Aard Mush
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There isn't a spellup plugin included by default with mushclient
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: There is no spellup plugin that comes with AardMUSh.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: I thought there was ... sorry my bad
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glade Tech: I strongly prefer bast's spellup over the others
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you mean the 'spellup' command that's built into the mud.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: There's the spellup command, which is completely MUDside.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: yes that's what I meant
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glade Tech: finger bast for download
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Metria, stop beating me by half a second or so.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: Is it possible to make buttons on screen in Mush? Like the aardwolf mobile app but for a laptop?
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can make 'hot spots' on a miniwindow, so I suppose you could.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Very much so, in mini-windows.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes, but you probably want to just make an alias or macro
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or bind it to an F-key
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: im on a touch screen laptop and figure a few buttons might be useful. Are they just linked text looking or like actual rounded buttons that you can make?
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can make them rounded buttons.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I never understood the appeal of a touchscreen laptop. All the form factor of a laptop, with all the finger smudges of a tablet.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It essentially is "linked text", but you can create borders around them so it's more button-like.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: heh yea i dont use the touch screen at all - was just thinking of how i mightP
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I don't get finger smudges on my tablet or phone. *shifty*
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hotspots are used to create buttons, so its not really linked text
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: where we at in complexity level to make these 1- 10 ?
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 10 to learn the mini-window, but once you get that down, it drops to like a 3-4.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: perfect!
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The most difficult part is positioning.
T3/r7/2018-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at -h...the "complexity-level 1" version of this would be http://abelinc.me/mushbuttons :-)
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone elses mushclinet toolbar keeps stacking on top of each other when switching screens?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how many people play from a jump drive? and are u getting alot of lagn
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how many people play from a jump drive? and are u getting alot of lagn
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how many people play from a jump drive? and are u getting alot of lagn
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: omg sorry
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crackle & Cackle Tech: flash drive?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I am playing from flash drive. dont got any lags
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: im trying to find out if there is like certain types of flash drives that work better than others for this kinda stuff, like is there faster access flash drives like there are sd cards?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crackle & Cackle Tech: no never
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crackle & Cackle Tech: flash drives wont make lag at all
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok thanks, i have a 16gig one i just bought for work that im thinking i can run this through but i didnt know if there would be alot of lag
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: well mine is SanDisk Idk much about it. it has both usb and mini-usb slots
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crackle & Cackle Tech: sandisk is well known and cheap
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: when I'm on my windows tablet, I have mush on a 32gb micro SD card and I don't experience any latency whatsoever. I know that's not an actual flash drive, though, so YMMV.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i had a roblem running on a flash drive before but i think it was because i was running it on a mac and was using wine to access the jump drive and stuff wasnt saving right and all that
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: anyone use blowtorch that can tell me how to create buttons? holding down a spot just seems to bring up the highlighter for me
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crackle & Cackle Tech: long press
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: do it via the menu
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crackle & Cackle Tech: then new button set
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: fiendish
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: a friend from work has expressed interest in getting into the game, y'all have a list of recommended plugins for a newbie?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: just the standard release for someone just starting out
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Heyup, sorry to be a PITA, i'm sure this may have been asked loads. I just loaded up snapshot 1955 (mush) and non of the default plugin windows are open, just one fullscreen world window. How do i go about adding the others?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: did you download the nonvisual installer, by chance? there's a version for visually impaired players that doesn't contain any miniwindow stuff.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: LOL, that must be it! 
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: I thought i clicked the one for screen readers and understood that as one for people who read the screen.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: as in 'download this if you are a screen reader' and 'download this if you don't read the screen' ... not the sharpest tool in the shed. Thanks!
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Irys laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: that's kind of hilarious, I do have to admit.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Kinda like an iq test for reading.... I failed.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: happens to us all
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Gonna rebottle the CORRECT mush in crossover. Thanks for your help!
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: And for reference, the correct version works correctly. Who'd have though.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: uh... So I just downloaded the new AardMUSH and now WinkleWinkle's triple pack isn't working.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Love & Wars Tech: I think nokfah has an updated version finger him
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: It's Starling isn't it?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Love & Wars Tech: I think both nokfah and starlings are udated
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: so the new AardMUSH is incompatible with WW's plugins?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think starling has developed it more, whereas nokfah just fixed the timestamp problem
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: fiendish removed the column that winkle was using for xset mark, aka the area start room
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: im confused
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: so because of the removed xset mark, Winkle's plugins don't work anymore?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: basically, the new version of mush doesn't work out of the box with winkle's old S&D. you'll need to either download Starling's S&D or download Nokfah's fix.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: is Starling a reliable player?<.<
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: very much so.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you dont get what i type, dont worry about it.  but download the one from starling if you want it to work. there will be no lessons regarding what or why
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I will jail you and subject you to a quiz
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: will i have to wear something slutty to get a good grade?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: couldnt hurt
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: abelinc recommends starling's version.  nuff said.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: should i delete/disable the old Winkle plugins and replace/enable Star's ones? They have  the same name, so IDK
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes, delete the old one it wont work
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: GUI, Extender, S&D
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: downloaded the new stuff, removed/disabled the old. still not working
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: any idea when i try to "xrt imagi" i'm unable to find a path there?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: same here. I try to "xrt hell" and no path
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Is there a custom exit along the way that you haven't mapped?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm good point.. runto from recall works..
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: is there anyway i can examine what the "runto" is actually doing?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: mapper where <roomid>
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: says the room is not found
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: says i'm there :P
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: go to where it's not working from
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: room ID is 30984(Descent to Hell)
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nod i'll try that
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: works just fine with mapper goto
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: BONK
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i know
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: its imaqi not imagi
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you xset the area yet?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i spelled it wrong endy :P
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: sad..
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: wait so I have to revist all the areas I previously did to get the plugin to work?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no most/all have a default room set
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dp it should be 'imagi' :p
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i tried "nation" and it worked
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: sppedwalks xx
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Any tintin++ players around
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's 9 of them currently online. May be a challenge finding them, though...
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Let's see if we can draw them out
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: MUSHCLIENT IS THE BEST CLIENT
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have used tintin++ before... does that count?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: do you have girl scout cookies? they might attract them, maybe some thin mints. 
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Kobus, are you familiar with tintin's triggers?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: no, but he has a van...
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its been a long time, i can read documentation and try to help if possible. thats the best i can offer :p
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus licks Bambii.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I can catch triggers, but I can't get values
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, so what are you entering?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im not 100% but it looks like in order to use regex you need to double up the {} for the "message" part of the #action
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/action.php
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah, I think my simple regex works, because the trigger fires. I just can't get the values (%1, %2, etc)
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: can you paste me your #action line?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't do it! It's a trap!
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: since its regex, are you capturing in (?.+)
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: in parentheses
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No, just using plain %1
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I think that's how it works in tintin
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ah yea good point koopa, if youre using actual regex you need to use backreferences
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No, I'm using tintin regex, not actual {regex}
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: k.. i dont know if it is really different or not, typically in regex, you have to do capture groups
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i still want to see your full #action command :p you can send it in a tell if you feel it necessary
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I did try {(.+)}, but couldn't get the value either
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: One sec
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: %x should be like * in mushclient
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: for REAL regex you might need to go like {{(thething) does some thing to you}}
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but i dont actually use tintin so id have to get on the vps and then login to an alt to truly test it
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: since ive used mush ive never gotten it to see gray and i cant seem to find where to enable it, any ideas?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type seegray?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: that doesnt work for me
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: what does it say?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you get when you type it?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: you will now see gray ...etc but in white and my title has gray in it so i know its not
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: to me your title looks all "offwhite" like your name
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well except the bright white
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what color code did you use?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: see thats odd, with blowtorch it was a dark grey
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm on my wife's mush she sees darker gray
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i see it as dark grey
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: its been along time but im pretty sure it would be x256
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: this is dark grey.
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: hmmmm.... what was that code then?
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: @D
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: @D
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh, i get dark gray in comm log but offwhite in output
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: eh
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: same here
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: Endymion: type seegrey
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have its on
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and crap i just defaulted my chan colors :/
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech:  test..
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: success
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2018-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: but thanks lol
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: how can I take my old mapper database stuff and bring it into the updated AardMush client?
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: copy the aardwolf.db file 
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: i'm seeing a "aardwolf.db-wal" file and a "aardwolf.db-shm" file
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: close mush before copying db
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: there are two aardwolf.db files
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: and I don't even know which of the old files to copy over from
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: any help?
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: smashed some buttons, and cut my main window in half, cant resize it for some reason and cant find a setting?
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Mush?
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: yesa
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means type 'resetaard' and hit enter
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Check the 'Window' from the toolbar on top, the from the list, near the bottom, choose something, maybe "1"
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i did that, reset all my windows but cant place them below half the screen now
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Or Maximize
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Play around
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you probably did cascade or similar, and maximize should restore what you need
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Also, don't smash keys..
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: smashing keys is all aard is!
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: I've done that before just by fat fingering alt
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: We've all been there, Daak
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: if you press alt mid commands you're in some bad places sometimes ;p
T3/r7/2018-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Wonder if he fixed it..
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: heya all, looking for help with miniwindows!
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: someone? 
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: Looking for help with miniwindows
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: bast? 
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: https://web.archive.org/web/20151219113027/https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Troubleshooting
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: more in regard to creating custom miniwindows similar to these ones 
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: like, a resistances miniwindow
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: sorry, i'm not a developer so no help
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: I guess you start by looking how the other windows work
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: why don't you start by customizing the stats miniwindow?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: I'm trying, but I don't know how.
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: find the plugin and start hacking it :)
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: all miniwindows are plugins. You can check them in the plugins folder
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: I don't see what the %-3d refers to. thinking that's location, but not sure
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: I'm already doing that, hehe
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: {text=string.format("%-3d",gmcpchar.maxstats.maxint),textcolour=data_colors["Intelligence"]},
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: wondering first off how it grabs from the score screen. is it finding a line location, or is it finding a word?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: I dont think it uses the score screen. It uses gmcp data
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: so basically the mud needs to send me the data, not necessarily grab it from a location?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: yep, the mud sends you the data
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: check help gmcp
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: so the mud needs to have gmcp coded into it?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: Ohh you are asking here for another mud? Not for this game
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: kind of just want to get familiar with building the miniwindows
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: we have gmcp data built into aard.
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: is anyone aware of any miniwindows plugins that don't rely on gmcp?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: because i know they exist
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: im not seeing how the channels are called upon in the communication log. is this another gmcp thing? doesn't look like it is
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: gmcpdebug 1 and try channels
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: There is gcmp for channels
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP#aardmodules_comm
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do I do things like classes in lua?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/ObjectOrientationTutorial
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: those are not real classes though
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone know why a domain/enterprise admin would get a 'permission denied' message when attempting to change the krbtgt password in active directory (using the MS process)
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Hey peeps, so I successfully (after one false start) managed to install mush on my MAC via crossover, i've moved some of my plugins but I don't seem to have correctly moved over my map databse as S+D is not remembering the map that i've explored on my PC. It was a very old version of mush upgraded to the very latest
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: is the file that i'm thinking is the map database the one named Aardwolf.db?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: hrrm, it's 5.8mb which prolly isn't as big as some, but bigger than a brand new one. I've installed the latest S+d but the mapper and s+d don't seem to be insync
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you have mush closed when you copied it over?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: I think so...
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sorry, I dont help on s d
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: NP, thanks anyhow Ayasinda
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: let me remove a try again with mush definately closed
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: you just close mush, copied the Mush folder from one place to another?
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: s&d just uses mapper commands, so if your mapper is correct then s&d is irrelevant
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: If it was quite a version upgrade (like a couple years worth), there was a database change that does affect S&D specifically.
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: thanks, let me retry that, it's JUST the database file i'm copying.
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: I run MUSHclient out of a Dropbox folder, all my plugins work on both my PC and my Mac.  Just need to pause Dropbox syncing while MUSHclient is open on that machine.
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hes not having an error though, just not seeing mapped rooms
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: the default mapper size is: 5389312
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: you said yours was 5meg, sounds stock to me
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh so he's not looking at his old db then
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Hrm, i'm away from my PC for now. I mush not have copied over the correct DB file... 
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: I did have several instances of mush on that PC so perhaps that's where I need to look next
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Ideally you copy the entire folder, there's no reason to peace meal, especially if it's working on the source machine
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: as always, thanks for your help. I shall investigate further.
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: s/peace/piece
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Ah, i assmed that would also copy the prog files that I didn't want
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: how can i remove say from the communication log
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Right click on the comm log and go to the menu, note, say and mobsay are seperate channels.
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There are options to hide them from the main window, and to not show them in the Comm Log Window.
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i see how to add them not to remove
T3/r7/2018-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: right click > customize channels,
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Need a scripthead to help me lua... it's being retarded.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it often is.  what's the problem?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Biker questions which side properly gets the blame :P
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I've initialized a variable to zero. Based on a condition, that value may change... but It's supposed to be fine if the value is zero. As soon as I try a multiplication operation with zero it freaks out and gives an error saying can't use a nil value.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how did you initialize it to zero?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try using tonumber() in your multiplication
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: are you working on a plugin, or on a .lua file (i.e. your 'script file') ?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: local var = 0
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exiled To Aphelion . o O ( took everything out of the variable? )
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: used that and it still threw an error.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use tonumber on the other thing you're multiplying too ;-)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: tonumber won't help if it's saying the variable is nil, it would have said it wanted a number but got string or similar
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: haha, did that!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: SURELY you can multiply by zero in lua...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: what is your script? ie paste it to somewhere so we can look at it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: where are you initializing the variable?  in the global variable space, or inside a function?  Inside a loop?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I used one line to initialize multiple variables... could that be the issue?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, my guess is that it's a scope thing, maybe between using lua variables vs mush variables
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if the variable is initialized in the wrong place, it could be inaccessible to whatever is trying to multiply it, in which case it would say the variable is nil
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, I don't know. I have a script file and I initialize all my variables at startup time.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, what is the script trying to do?  that might help track the problem too.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll check scope. That seems most likely.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: just weird that it calls out just one when all the others variables work just fine but they're set to something > 0.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: I have mucked up conw somehow. When I type 1 and hit enter to "kill" the first mob in the room I get a alias function command line not found error. Any idea how I can fix this?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can't use locals outside functions most times unless you play around with _G
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: Aseigan: download my updated version of the considerwindow plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: got link?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it cons the mobs, makes a list, and kills first one on the list?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: yes on zelda
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: gimme a sec
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that sounds positively controversial!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: besides you really don't get anything out of using locals with Mush if you want to take advantage of a script file.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just made an alias "abetest" with the contents (all on one line) local foo = 0 local bar = 12 Note("foo = " .. foo) Note("bar = " .. bar) Note("bar * bar = " .. bar*bar) Note("bar * foo = " .. foo*bar)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when called, it correctly says foo = 0, bar = 12, bar * bar = 144, and foo * bar = 0
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i ran that and it set mush on fire, what did you do
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Perhaps it was with my table handling. Say I had an empty table x, which I initialized in the global scope. Can I do something like x.thing = 0? or will that get ignored because it can be read as a nil?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that should work
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: it only works when the value is > 0
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I extended my alias test: bar / foo = inf, foo / bar = 0
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It sounds like you're making a list of something and counting how many items in the list, is that close eough?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: close enough :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's just harder to advise without knowing what you're trying to do
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I tried to initialize a value to zero... if a certain event happens, it can change to something > 0 but if not then 0 should be fine. While zero, I want to use it in multiplacation to zero out a value. Should be easy peasy.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: but it throws an error saying the table variable is nil. I'll try initializing another way and see if that helps.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sounds like its a scoping problem, maybe?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: try using the value right after it is initialized to zero, see if that behaves differently.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I can't get anything to fail in my test alias...It's now: local foo = 0 local bar = 12 x = {} x.thing = 0 x.otherthing = 4 Note("foo = " .. foo) Note("bar = " .. bar) Note("bar * bar = " .. bar*bar) Note("bar * foo = " .. foo*bar) Note("bar / foo = " .. bar/foo) Note("foo / bar = " .. foo/bar) Note("x.thing = " .. x.thing) Note("bar * x.thing = " .. bar*x.thing) Note("bar * x.otherthing = " .. bar*x.otherthing)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can you copy the actual error message?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the results are all correct (with the divide by zero one saying "inf"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: that makes sense but all the other variables that I initalized but that event triggered to change them to > 0 work flawlessly. 0.o
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you sure your triggering event is changing it to 0?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I initialize it to zero. An event may change the value to > 0. If it's changed, the code works fine. If it's zero, I get error saying the table value is nil.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you initialize the table key to 0, or the table to 0?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: blank table... like x = {}
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the vague descriptions are entertaining, btw.  fwiw I understand the frustration :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you x = {}, but then you need to define x.something before you use it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: when you add keys to the table the value is initialy is set to null. so if you have { "key" } and you do a then "key" is set null.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does multiplication have to do with it, though?  If you're just zeroing out other variables, why not use an if check and just set them to zero directly?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: and what is wrong with { key = 0 } ?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: looks to me like maybe x is being set equal to everything between the curly braces - which is not zero, but nil.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: if you already know what your keys are you can initialize them a table creation time.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I need the value to hold the payload. I want to display the product of payload * multiplier... with the option of having the multiplier be zero.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: so wait this is a table we're working on?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Maybe that'll help Ana!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that all works OK in my tests, so you're doing something wrong in how you're defining or referencing things
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: so what is the table, a dictionary of multipliers?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you made a blank table and set a key like I mentioned earlier?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I made an alias, with exactly this in its action: local foo = 0 local bar = 12 x = {} x.thing = 0 x.otherthing = 4 Note("foo = " .. foo) Note("bar = " .. bar) Note("bar * bar = " .. bar*bar) Note("bar * foo = " .. foo*bar) Note("bar / foo = " .. bar/foo) Note("foo / bar = " .. foo/bar) Note("x.thing = " .. x.thing) Note("bar * x.thing = " .. bar*x.thing) Note("bar * x.otherthing = " .. bar*x.otherthing)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: an empty table will never be nil, but it will also never be 0
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: LOL, tried *nod Ana -> Can't find Ana =P
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so x = {}, then x.thing = 0, and x.otherthing = 4
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I did a similar thing and didn't have any problems
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I'm able to do any math with x.thing, x.otherthing, foo, and bar
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it also took negative numbers and handled them in math expressions just fine
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, a table is an inderect reference, that is why. When you use a table you actually using a pointer
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: i would love to see some code, idk about anyone else
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: so a table doesn't have a numeric value the always evaluate to the representative pointer.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Biker says it's working... ?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kearan licks Anaristos.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it always*
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: are we back at a scope problem?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I run into similar issues with table references being nil when I don't want them to be, and it's usually some small detail in how I defined this or that.  it's irritating sometimes.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, when I type "abetest", I get foo = 0, bar = 12, bar * bar = 144, bar * foo = 0, bar / foo = inf, foo / bar = 0, x.thing = 0, bar * x.thing = 0, bar * x.otherthing = 48
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throxx Tech: off
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: we're back at "we don't know enough about what you're trying to do" :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite waves goodbye to Throxx.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: throxx: you can either just type "tech", or you can type "tech *off 30" to turn it off for half an hour
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: try this: go to pastebin.com(org?), paste your code, then type tech <theurl>
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can just type pastebin :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: some people dont know what that means
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: brb, will initialize with keys then see if it still gives me greif.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kearan checks who ignored.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: empty :-)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: he doesn't want to show his code unless we sign non-disclosure aggreements :>
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: lol, that must be it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not going to lie, i'd pirate it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: or rather, ninja it ;)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan exclaims "ARR!" and makes an intimidating face.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: LOL, It's just a tracker =P
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan Ninjas it!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: and 3 people wouuld download it, 2 of whom would have no idea what it is or does
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: but srsly, NDAs all around!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: just pastebin us so we can stop guessing
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: right after you sign your NDA =P
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: sometimes i pastebin, and then someone is like "oh, you missed this" and im like "gah wtf, tyvm"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: ok, ok, I promise not to use the same variable names when I use the code
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/semi
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I promise not to let you find out that I'm profiting millions of dollars from your code
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: LOL!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: usually i missed an "end" or did "fi" instead of "end"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: i also do "else if" a lot in lua
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: they all have to start with Frosty_is_woot_
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well if you use an editor like notepadd++, you can tell if you are screwing up your if/end stuff
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yes, I like notepad++
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gilduran wildly nods his head at Love & Wars... he seems to be in total awe.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Yeah, Using VSCode. Don't think it's syntax :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gilduran rapidly nods twice at Love & Wars, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: wrong channel
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what I'd really like is something like cscope, but for Lua
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: notepad++ has never told me "youre missing an end!"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: there is the SceTE editor that ships with lua
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is VSCode an IDE, or ... ?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a text editor
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: microsoft visual studio code editor
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if you're not using vim you fail and are bad
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: free download charn posted about a while back
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: er, i mean, emacs
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my text editor of choice is EditPadPro
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: light weight and very configurable. I give my seal of approval!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I haven't had a reason to switch from notepad++ but I'll check it out.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just figured out why for the last month or so, my note capture script was only grabbing like half of the notes
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: i just need notepad with line numbers basically
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: autocomplete annoys me
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turns out, when I made my trigger to ensure that the tonepk social doesn't end up in my INFO: logs, I didn't make that a "fallthrough" trigger, and it was on the same priority as my "a note was just posted" trigger (which is another INFO:)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: your state machine stuttered :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a notepad with line numbers and full regex search/replace...syntax coloring is helpful as well :-)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf's /help priority: * When the first matching non-fall-thru macro is found, all the non-fall-thrus of equal priority are collected, and the search ends. One of the non-fall-thrus is chosen at random and applied.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the first part is good, the random selection sounds a bit out there.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: sounds counter-intuative.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: syntax highlight is nice but... i dont really NEED it. with notepad++ i dont have syntax highlighting for lua when editing an xml plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I suppose you can reprioritize to avoid the randomness.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite agrees with Anaristos, whom can't be found so I emoted this!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just change the language to Lua
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: Kearan you do have lua highlighting if you set the language to lua.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Then it highlights the Lua just fine, and the XML coloring is also fairly consistent and straightforward.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: sure, i just dont actually use it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, that's the point...if it's not fallthrough, by design only one will fire...priority is there to determind WHICH fires
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I get it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: i dont actually care enough about syntax highlighting to change it to lua, does that make sense?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the only time I remember being bitten by it in 25 years, so that's a good thing
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: if you want to make sure your if have correct ends it is a good idea.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: that wont tell me if i have correct ends, just colors "end" blue
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: besides, wow, are you lazy :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: that is a definite
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: two clicks of the mouse, that is all it takes :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: ill try it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: cant guarantee i will actually care at all
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: once you get used to it you'll ask why it took you so long.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kearan Tech: oh, that DOES have more blue :p
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Just FYI to those following my question earlier. It was a scoping problem mixed with a pass byref problem. TY for help :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec is looking around for a cloak to buff his nails on...better run!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: the Table was trying to pass a local variable to another function by reference... hence the error.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec rides up upon his warhorse and salutes with fist to heart.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: Hi
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: I'm trying to find a regex expression for
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: A black ant should be a fair fight!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: who
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: trying "A (\w+) should be a fair fight!"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: But that isn't working
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: Any idea why?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: the leading "A" is not common to every mob
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: It isn't even working for the mob I programmed it for
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: or tried to
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if mushclient, post a screenshot of your trigger window
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: Just about to post it, got why it happened
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feur Tech: sorry to bother you
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: did anyone invent something similar to a dps meter for groups?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: that would be cool
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: so I made a regexp for a trigger looking like this ^You receive (.*?)\+(.*?)\+(.*?) experience points\.$ it works and I'm only interested in actually knowing if exp was received or not. How would I do to capture people for example having it all summed up together like you recieve 100 exp or for people only having wishtat and not opk and so on?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: I'm sure there is a smarter way than just having 3 separate triggers?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 'exprate' command toggles between X+Y and just X format
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: yes that I do know, but I want it to work for anyone who uses exprate or not
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: ^You receive (\d+)(?:\+\d+)? experience (?:point|points)\.$
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: this gets 1+1 or 1+1+1 or 1
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: exactly what I was looking for thanks! regexp really makes me confused, need to learn how it's really used
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: actually doesn't get the final +1
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: ^You receive (\d+)(?:\+\d+)?(?:\+\d+)? experience (?:point|points)\.$
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: so it gets 1 and 1+1?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: the above gets all the cases, doesn't account for any double though
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: double as in decimals or like 10?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: ^You receive (\d+)(?:\+\d+)?(?:\+\d+)? experience (?:point|points)\.$    --> gets 1, 1+1, 1+1+1
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: whole numbers.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Double experience
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ^You receive (?<base>\d+)(?:\+(?<exprate>\d+))? experience (?:point|points)\.$
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that worked for me
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: right, but I'm not actually interested in how much, just that I receive experience so this works as you still get this message during double too
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Starling that one doesn't get exprate + opk
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: this works perfect Daak, thanks :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CoffeeBreak really seems to like ParaLogiki Daak's welcome.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ^You (?:receive|don't receive) (?<base>\d+)(?:\+(?<exprate>\d+))?(?:\+(?<opk>\d+))? experience (?:point|points)\.$
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that worked for me
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if any of those numbers are bigger than 0, you gained xp
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if they all sum to 0, you didn't :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the "fair fight" trig, the issue is that (\w+) only matches a single word. "black ant" doesn't qualify. Note that MOBs can also have all sorts of punctuation marks in their names, so you really need to loosen up on the specifics of the trig...there are also a few public "consider" plugins with all of these trigs figured out already :-)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: "transformed(?) frog" for example!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the exp trig, here's what I use: ^You receive ([(]halved[)] )?([0-9]+)([+][0-9]+)?([+][0-9]+)? experience points?[.]$
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Why do you do [(] rather than just \(?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because [] isn't impacted by reparsing
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fair point.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's much more stable if I'm using "eval" statements, and sometimes I need to nest a few of those to get derived variable values
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I prefer [0-9] and [a-z] character classes to \d and \w because different regex engines define "word characters" differently, so I like to know/decide exactly what is included
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone have the issue in mushclient when minimized that everything squishes to 16 characters and it moves around the menue bar at the top to be a single column instead of a row of options?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: is there any way to teach mapper to use custom exits in rooms? 
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: to make rt faster
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes mapper help cexits
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: mapper cexit climb ladder
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes mapper help exits
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out http://abelinc.me/mapper and http://abelinc.me/hosch
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: many thnx:p gonna read!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Anyone know of an iOS client that's alright for Aard?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so what about this meltdown bug?  are haxors going to be stealing our megahurtz?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Nope... they stopped supporting the one that I used :(
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: gamers are safe more or less
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: I had one too but it died with the 11 updates
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok, so adding extra columns to a few of the tables in the aardmapper shouldn't break anything, right?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: shouldn't
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do NOT do that
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: as it stands, there's no code in any script that would be reading or modifying data in those columns
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think latest aardmush checks schema and will drop columns
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let's put it this way...that's effectively what winkle did (not quite, but close enough)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can disable that easily enough
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keep your stuff in your stuff
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: winkle used an otherwise unused column to store stuff that was never intended to go there, iirc
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's zer reason to tough the mapper db
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You don't want to start modifying the mapper just to suit your plugin. At least, not if you want anyone else to use your code.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: then the mapper got updated and that column was either put into use or removed, either way S&D didn't like it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not quite, he stored stuff that was intended to go there
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just stuff that the mapper didn't actually need or care about, and wasn't guaranteed to be what you wanted anyway.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not modifying the mapper to suit my plugin, I want to modify the mapper db so that I can modify the aardmapper itself
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he stored a date in a date field
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: he stored something that got broken by a future update, point being.  Aardmapper hasn't been updated in a long time, and none planned anytime soon
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapperdb is part of the mapper, so yes you're propsing modifying the mpper
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: magna
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: anyway, rooms table needs columns for mazeroom, noquaff, and nomap
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're proposing to do a truly despicable thing as far as coding is concerned
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: areas table needs a column for start room, and possibly one to identify which continent each area is on
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: despicable thing?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bullshit
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is despicable?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: probably metria
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: how would you store the info, Magna?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not going to release it publicly, this is just for y own use
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In a separate database, Liber
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: create a paralel mapper db?!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that'd be something :D
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to store data, then YOU store the data. not the mapper
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it IS room info. for each room :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't understand the issue, abe
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't need to be a parallel mapper
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: me neither
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: sounds rather religious :D
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that room info could be stored in info along with pk, safe, shop etc
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're going to hack on the mapper and the mapper database to add info that doesn't need to be stored there. It could be stored ANYWHERE else. That means that all upgrades from now on become your responsibility to backport. Why go through that hassle?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: imho, any room flags that would get stored need to be stored in the mapper db
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Because I don't forsee any upgrades happening that would cause such an issue
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and not all in a single field. THAT is a poor implementation
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's an ignorant statement
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nobody foresaw the date column getting removed
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and while I appreciate your concern that I might experience some hassle, I've got it under control
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then... why are you asking us?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Starling Fiendish might update the mapper JUST because you messed with it, you don't know what will happen tomorrow
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if an update happens I'll deal with it at that time.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you asked if there's a problem. there is.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and he's going to hold a gun to my head and force me to use the updated version?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think not
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I doubt that Fiendish will ever break mappers to spite Starling. wth are you talking about :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if this is 100% private, do wth you want
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: why should it be 100% private? :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if there's any hint of this type of stuff in your released stuff, I
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wait for it...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if there's any hint of this type of stuff in your released stuff, I'd change mapper to break it with every mush release
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Because I don't want the hassle of having to provide tech support for something that may very well corrupt someone's mapper db
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: see? good thing it's fiendish who fixes that and not you :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you think he wouldn't? :P
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: "Is there any potential problems doing <this>"  "Yes, because <reasons>" "I don't like your answer, why are you all hounding me"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: also the reason I haven't update the client/default scripts in a LONG while
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'm certain he wouldn't
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Libel Liber's remark.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: magna, you'd be wasting your time, because at that point I would just fork the db script and just tell users to replace the stock plugin with the modded one
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this argument is irrelevant, anywa
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and never get a single new feature from him, or else have a bigg hassle every time
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just want to know if I can add columns to the tables without it causing my computer to catch fire
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Your computer won't catch fire. Knock yourself out.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want things added to mapper, you already know the *proper* way to do it...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what new features would be possibly implement?  mapper goto area, no.  I asked.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nobody thought date_added field would get removed either.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i mean any mush features...his u[dates aren't limited to mapper
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: then fork it :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i just made a standalone "xrt area" plugin and removed the aliases from winkle.  works way better than any of the 'fixes' so far :p
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and every update of his would replace your forked mapper plugin, so it would break for all users
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Starling: the short answer is - it should work directly. that said, if there are some poor querries (both selects and inserts/updates), they might get broken. especially updates might
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: also, to prevent failure on inserts, set default values on those fields
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: anyway, mapper plugin's been unchanged for a while, and I have it from Fiendish that there aren't any in the works *shrug*  If that changes, it changes, but for now there's no issue
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, why do it right when you can do it 'good enough for now'
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you asked him the wrong question, because you didn't want the real answer
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you know it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: adding the room info in the mapper db IS the right answer. even if that might lead to multiple mappers
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: (mapper scripts, that is)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why would noquaff be pertinent to mapper?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: liber: wrong information
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just put it in your bot script
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I guarantee clans etc. are already modding their mappers anyway
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: they're certainly modding S&D to suit their needs
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they aren't
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no they aren't what?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: s&d was already a mod, but the GQ version came directly from winkle, the clans didn't need to mod for it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they aren't modding the mapper
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's a shame, modding the mapper is a lot of fun
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I love the lively debate on tech and all but really it comes down to, yes starling there might be issues if you update it in the future. No it shouldn't break anything now.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: in any case, bit late to yell at me for modding it, I've already changed a bunch of stuff and added things in both the aardmapper.lua and the mapper plugin.  You can make it do some pretty neat stuff.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I don't really understand the issue with modding a plugin; could someone explain it in simple terms?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Starling: if there is room info that you think might be useful to be stored in the mapper, I'd do it the old-fashioned open-source way: do the changes (small steps), create a diff (if the plugin is not already hosted in git or something) and send to fiendish. I know he said no on the 'xrt', but maybe other changes will be considered useful for "mainstream"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: The problem is that the proposed change is to someone else's code and that other version is what is bundled in mush and updated versions of mush.  There isn't a clear way to deal with conflicts (as far as I've seen on this discussion)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now you're learning, liber ;-)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sarcastic: You change your version of a core (distributed with mushclient) plugin. Now an updated version gets released by Fiendish. If you update, your changes get overwritten.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It sounds like there's an element of offense here not related to the mere technical concerns posed by future updates, but I don't see why there should be.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: people on here are strong willed Starling. Many beliefs that are held dear
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and modding the plugin is "less offenseful" than modding the db file
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Especially in IT where there are usually good reasons for best practices
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I've updated my aardmush several times and just copied the modded mapper plugin to it and good to go, no problems
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you even do a diff to see if the mapper had changed?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Magna: actually, I'm not. I'd like good changes to be reflected everywhere. but trust me - if I needed snd, and I'd have to pick between the classic mapper OR snd, and snd would provide it's own equivalent mapper, it would be a rather instant decision :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bastardizing a core third-party database is a pretty big nono
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it isn't "offenseful" at all :P
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it isn't bastardizing anything, lol
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it just renders it non-standard, is all
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria hides his face in his palm after seeing what Real ninja Starling did.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and obviously, creates an element of risk due to database errors, but that's what backup is for
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is the very definition of bastardizing...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Starling: you can try this in the scripts - create a copy of the DB, change the copy, disable the mapper script
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: With your attitude towards design and implementation I wouldn't trust a "Hello, World" written by you
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm sorry you hate S&D
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: someone need a real coder?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: therein lies exactly why so much software is beta-quality at release time...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: I'm all for you digging into things and playing around.  That's really fun (for me at least) and it's a great way to learn and tweak what you want.  However, as others have noted, there are potential concerns for future compatibility.  You need a method to cleanly snag upstream changes and incorporate them into your build.  If that isn't yet part of your design process, then everything built on top of it is at risk.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: a second alternative: add tables to the DB
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: instead of adding a column, add a table, link on PK
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: NO! Your plugin should be self contained.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dumb when you can just create those tables in YOUR db
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: db attach? lol
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Wow, if just adding columns to tables in the mapper is enough to make people crap themselves
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: really just abelinc is freaking out, lol
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as I said above, adding a column can break at least insert/updates
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If only you coded as well as you troll, Starling
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can just imagine what would happen to them if I integrated S&D directly into the mapper ;)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: adding a table won't break a thing
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: they'd probably come burn my house down!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tol snickers with Real ninja Starling about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: my code is mostly fine
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and it would allow the querries to work just as fine as with the columns in the same table
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: s'ok, we don't know where you live
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I forsee Abelinc standing at the front of the mob holding a pitch fork
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: My code is doing an impression of a parking ticket... It has FINE written all over it!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so would using your own database...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm just surprised at the vehemence of the reaction.  I'm just modding a script.  It's not like I'm going to profit millions of dollars from it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you're changing a data structure...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so, instead of adding a column "Noquaff" to the "Rooms" table, create a "StarlingRoomFlags" table, and add a foreign key to the "Rooms" table
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for absolutely no good reason
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bewcause you can do the identical thing without doing that
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: redundant, though
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: abe how would you add a foreign key between databases?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: no, a secondary table, considering there is no info for most rooms, is actually the recommended and optimal way
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the noquaff is just a convenience thing, the maze column would have an actual mapper related use
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: opps that one was to liber not abe
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, why code using best practices when you can hack instead
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: oh and I read the whole string wrong anyway
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I never suggested a secondary database :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tol is NOT using a bot, merely a very handy *beep* script!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: liber; bullshit
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never suggewsted it, but if you were competent you would've
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: abe, figure me out a way to map nomap rooms
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and you're suggesting spreading tables accros multiple database
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Fiendish already does.. he puts nomap_room_area then stores it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I have nomap rooms mapped in my system
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: u hacker
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I don't see the mapper db as a mapper plugin's file
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: liber: not spreading tables across multiple databases, no...but using multiple, yes
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and there's not technical reason to NOT add tables in a DB (unless you modify the constraints on the existent tables, but noone suggested that)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when the database is third-party embedded, best practice is to do your own stuff in your own db
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the fact that this is a sqlite db doesn't change all good db design rules. and those above treat the db as a freakin' INI file
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm mainly modding the mapper as a way to break into sql, anyway
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are absolutely technical reasons not to
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the DB is NOT embeded. and, while I might give up the mapper at some point, I wouldn't give up my mapper db
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the fact that I get nifty new features that nobody else has is just a bons
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you have a strange oulook on dbs :D
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and if I do break something and wreck my mapper db, just reload from backup and good to go
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i have a data architect outlook on dbs...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yeah :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I like pancakes
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: good for you, too bad you'd make the same app use multiple dbs just to be able to keep their isolation :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Starling, you say you're doing this to learn. Why are you trying so hard NOT to learn, then?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as  it should be, which is also why that app implemented the plugin system
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is designed from the ground up for isolation
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and I agree with the plugin system as long as it doesn't apply to aardwolf.db. that is my mapper data, which is mainly exploited by the aardmapper, but not exclusively. and it's not the plugin's data, it's MY data. and I don't want to remap the whole world OR do some very, very bad sql querries just to keep Magna happy :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'll be back in a bit, thanks for the help.  And I guess the criticism/lively discussion although tbh if you think I could do things better you could suggest those things instead of just berating me.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: l8r ninjas
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1) it is the plugin's data, (2) you mean you don't want to do proper sql queries...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: breaking them across DBs
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: anyway, Starling's out, and I'm still not updating my client, so everyone's happy and I'm still missing out functionality ;) Peace! :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: oh, regarding functionality that I'm actually missing: is there a search function for notes, in newer mapper versions?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't think so.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you can search by here, area, all
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yeah, I was asking something more in the lines of a full text search
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nope
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so I might actually make a fork myself. and, just to piss magna off, I'll do it on an older version of the mapper :p
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So you have a good idea for a feature.. you're willing to code it.. and you don't want to contribute the code back
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: 1. it was a joke. 2. the contribution could be in the form of publishing the fork, couldn't it?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: honestly if you fork vouluntarily an older version, publishing it is nearly useless
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: not for me. I'm using the aardwolf.com version, which is older ;)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so it would be useless only for you "bleeding edge" kids :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Starling: looking at the code, Fiendish is good about not inserting with a blanket insert. He inserts/updates and specifies which columns he's updating. So, yes, you could add columns. But I would add a table since that is much less likely to be modified. (I know, I'm late to the party)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: nope... it would be useless for at least 50% of the population... you have to choose a path or the other... 
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and I'm NOT a top edge (OLD) guy... stilll using XP and worked in professional programming for 35 years
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Bast: I already suggested it, but Magna threw a fit about adding table to a "third-party embeded database". I swear that's what it called it! :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: KitCarson: yeah, the curse of the opensource world :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I still get pissed each time I visit distrowatch.com
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: hehehehehe... well... sometimes it is, even if sometimes working for 'direct' clients makes open source feel like a paradise... and anyoane who names 'best practices' (and MEAN it) have  a big hug by me
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i'm back
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: as opposed to personal violations like trolling people or cutting them down.  That shit is much more akin to violence because it directly hurts people.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: is there a font adjustment for Mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sure is.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: game > configure > output
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: font button on that screen
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: thanks that helped
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Usually a setting for most things you want. Just sometimes it's hidden better than others.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: once youve experienced a mud in a nice monspaced font like Terminal or FixedSys, why would you ever want anything else?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Fixedsys has been my mudding font since almost day 1 ;)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: text large enough to easily read :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: I moved to inconsolata years ago
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I like that Mush can shrink the empty space between lines, too
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I like Deja Vu for my font.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: The mono one?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Late to the discussion...but I switched to Consolas in mush a few months ago and love it.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I've tried all those other fonts, always come back to fixedsys though
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Durel, dinv question, is it possible to umm blacklist an item so it's not considered in the 'set' commands? I realize I could fudge the priorities a bit, just wondering if there's another way
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: see "dinv help ignore"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: You can flag a container to be ignored along with anything in it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: how'd i miss that... thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Heh, I just added it in the last build.  You probably didn't look at it since then :p
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: I don't have ignore that's why, when di you add
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Thanks for testing...um...I mean using it :)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Couldn't live without it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at ParaLogiki Daak.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Durel, what about ignoring the keyring for organizing? Just as an example, I did you equipment / weapon bag, but it's pulling in keys out of keyring which bugs me. do I need to add "~key key" and "~flag isKey" or something?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The problem is that the keyring isn't actually a separate inventory
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Yeah, adding "~type key" and "~flag iskey" would do it.  Maybe I should add a way to optionally flag the keyring as ignored.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's precisely what I did.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I flagged some items as 'iskey' because they weren't flagged key.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: How did you do that?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: dinv keyword add iskey <name>
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: dinv help keyword for more information.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Ok, so as a keyword, not as a flag
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sorry, meant keyword earlier.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Lol, I thought there was a way to magically add flags to items, heh
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: I think anything on the keyring should either be "type key" or have "flag iskey" on it so those two queries should cover it
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: He could write it as such, regardless, but it's just as effective to do it as keywords.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not everything on the keyring is, though.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: So far it looks that way to me... my problem is for example amuley of flames is a neck piece that goes in keyring
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yin-Yang Chakram, a key for Shalindrael, is a weapon.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: ya that one and there's a hammer I have as well
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: the chakram has flag iskey though
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Type: Weapon flags: magic, held, nolocate, nodisarm, v3
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It does not have the iskey flag.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: At least, not visible.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Weird.  Mine does: Flags      : magic, held, nolocate, nodisarm, V3, iskey
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: mine as well
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Odd.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: I got mine recently though
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Mine's decently old, but not ancient.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Good to know.  In your case adding a keyword is probably the easiest solution then.  (or pick up a new chakram :p)
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: My ticket to the Botanical Gardens isn't flaged iskey, either: type: trash, flags: magic, melt-drop, v3
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Anyone have experience with ternary logic in lua?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Um...my botanical garden ticket has iskey set:  Flags      : magic, melt-drop, V3, iskey  
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Must have been added after, then, haha.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: so I got to add the ~key key ~flags iskey to both sides of any of my ||'s? or did I miss a way to create proper query groups? "type weapon ~key key ~flags iskey || type armor ~key key ~flags iskey"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: That's interesting though.  I was assuming everything on the keyring had one of those two characteristics
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: My amulet of the flames is from 9 years ago, so a new one might, heh
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Unfortunately I think that's the way to go with the current code.  The good news is that you'll probably only need to do that once...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Ok, so another question... ignore kinda doesn't work... My issue is with my priorty setting (which is almost eactly psi-melee) it wants to equip train ticket as my portal (5DR) and not my aardwolf amulet ... If I add the scores up from my priority my aard amulet is 10.4 and tick is 5
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: follow would be it's a 51-100 priority, and at level 71 it starts selecting the aard amulet again
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Is it because of stat caps or something, so it consider that?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: You're probably hitting max stat ceilings so that aard amulet stats aren't helping.  There aren't DR ceilings though.  That would be my guess.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Ok, that's it then
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: One easy way to test it would be to wear the set, look at your stats, swap to the amulet, and look at your stats again
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Another easy way is just have it ignore portal location until a certain level set.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: I've seen that type of thing quite a bit though.  It's one reason I wrote the plugin -- it's really hard to know how everything interacts to get the best full set
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So you can change it to ignore portal from level 51-100.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Ok, great idea
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Yeah, you could add a line for "~portal [score] ..." to the priority
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Oops, I mean "~portal 1"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: As always, thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: As always, thanks for using it :p
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: I'm confused, isn't that already happening?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite looks at ParaLogiki Daak, stifling a giggled "lolwut?"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: was a miss chan ;p
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Hahaha, I was confused for a sec =P
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So was I, but I'm drunk, so I'm bound to be confused.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I hate you all.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Or do I?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: you do
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You had me on ignore because I didn't answer a question you asked properly. That was a long time ago. Still not relevant today. :p
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But you're probably right.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: you were helpful to me before, are you helpful to those you hate?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I am
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm always helpful, even if it doesn't seem like it.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I genuinely care for helping people. But I don't care for when I get attitudes back because someone refuses to take a second to read what I posted. And it's happened more than once. I really shouldn't be posting on channels, either, in the drunk state that I am, because I tend to spout off, and I'll say something that will get me in trouble.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You two should take this to tells and either kiss and make up, or stop talking :P
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion looks smugly at Rex Daemon Crowley and screams, "NO U!11 Rex Daemon Crowley!!" in his most classy voice, You are gripped by an urge to join in.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: there are so many more options than that, but this is a nocurse channel, neh?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Haha, I'm not talking to anyone directly, so I'm not sending 300 tells to people just to say "I am here to help!"
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: to be fair, that would be a pretty straightforward script to build...
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I even helped my worst enemy in high school. Gave him $3 for lunch when his mom didn't pack his lunch and he was broke.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: you big softy
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: melvin, chat Do I need to stop talking to people?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh yeah, he doesn't work on tech due to no quotes.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 'melvin, chat Do I need to stop talking to people?'
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Melvin]: Crowley: You know it.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, that settles it.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh my you're a chat user
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: too drunk to build a basic spambot, means you are too drunk to mud :p
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Melvin chats with everyone. No spam about it! He even remembers your birthday and where you live!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: He single?
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: Sure.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 'melvin, are these quotes gonna work?' 
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: melvin, predict double
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: damn melvin
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 'melvin, tech are these quotes gonna work?' 
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: boo
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: need to add quotes on channels without quotes.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: where do all these bots get their name? What's wrong with Joe or Bob or Liz. No, it has to be Alexa, and Bixby and Melvin.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You need to use 'chat' not 'tech'
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 'melvin, chat are these quotes gonna work?' 
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: [Melvin]: Endymion: 
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Melvin got his name from... I forget who now... was someone who shared their character with their sister, though.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I don't want to know the sordid details!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Then don't ask!
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It was just a suggestion from someone and so I took it.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I didn't know you were going to talk about incest.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nothing incestial about it.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Incest is best, Anaristos.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Lol, I assumed Melvin was from from Hitchiker's Guide
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The sister started the character, got tired of playing it, shared it with their brother.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: wow another channel to turn off
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: use the new *off feature... don't just turn it off :/
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Then in college, I learned of a serial killer named Melvin, with a documentary called "Just Melvin". I want to watch it.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Avarek, just try "tech *off X" where X is minutes
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite rapidly nods twice at ParaLogiki Daak, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: give us bout 35 45 minute
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 30
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No need to turn this channel off, anyway.
T3/r7/2018-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: weird problem
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I added a line of code to print out the area names, in aard mapper
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can't find that line anyore
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you update the mapper?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: FINALLY
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: literally all I wanted to do
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is change the area long names (in 'mapper find', 'mapper area' search commands) to be the area short id
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Easy as... really difficult pie
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: If it helps, 'area keywords'
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he wanted results to list that, not just to get a listing
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err she
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: So using long name, get the shortname?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I'm reading it correctly, when starling types "mapper find starlight way - west", they want the response to be "[1] Starlight Way - West (aylor) (32421)"
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think that'd be a great feature request...something like a "shortflags" for areanames
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: why would that be the answer, there are two rooms with that name.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually there are 6 rooms with that name, but I only meant that would be the "style" of the answer...
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than the result that you get now of [1] Starlight Way - West (The Grand City of Aylor) (32421)
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: actually there are 6 rooms with that name
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: just checking, I don't use the mush mapper.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me either...had to fire up a copy of MUSH, do "mapper where 12345", then "mapper find starligh way" to see what the output looks like ;-)
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err the first command was mapper showroom 12345
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that fakes the mapper into thinking that I've got a location...otherwise it complains that it doesn't know where I am and tells me to look since I don't connect to Aard with it :P
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I got it working
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it only took me 3 hours
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite comforts Real ninja Starling.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was I interpreting your request correctly?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: most of that was just figuring out what the code was doing, and how
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: for just 3 payments of 3 TPs, I could've done that for you in 15 mins =P
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: got it now :)
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite runs away from Real ninja Starling in utter terror and horror!
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: maybe, maybe not
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I had to modify aardmapper.lua and the plugin to get it to work
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just didn't like the way the stock search output looked, too messy :P
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: dont judge.... is there a MUSH script to better manage training skills/spells?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ? cannot you just practice all ?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: more like prac spellup all, prac combat all
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I just type pra, copy-paste that list to xemacs, cut block where spell numbers start, then just block add "pra " in front and "full" at the end of line and copy-paste back to mush
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber goes ooOOooOOoo at Trachx.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yeah that could work. good pro tip
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you said emacs!
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber bows before Trachx.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: x-emacs, that is a bit different :P
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, it has nice block (rectangle) operation - like cut a block, or copy-paste it into another place, which is sometimes useful in some programming languages
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that works in word (at least newer version) too, but I like your solution better
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: hi iPhone users. What is the best Apple MUD client? is it MUDRammer?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: does anyone here know how to configure mudrammer?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how do i save my current plugin list?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: there is no way
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel laughs diabolically...Muhahahaha!
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: coz when i exit client *when deleting bast plugin*, and re-enter client my plugins shows the stuff i deleted.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: did you try saving world details?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: anyone have an updated version of sharptracker?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can use my mod: https://tinyurl.com/shrptrckr
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: How do I display the time to tick in the status bar of MUSHclient? I can't seem to find the option...
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it is a plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Not a native option in mushclient
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: Thanks :) I'll check those
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a command to flag an entire area as no portal no recal?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: you could do it direct in sqlite
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, I was just trying to stay away from that
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: thatd probably be easiest
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: would be nice for a number of sh areas
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: i'm currently using r1955. every single time I copy something on aardwolf my client crashes. any idea why? 
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: I am having problems with my gmud. I can not see anything in my main screen. If I type look it shows nothing. can anyone help me?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmud, as in the client that hasn't even been updated since before mccp?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: it's the aardwolf gmud client
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: The Aardwolf client is MUSHclient, you mean that?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: sorry yes, mush my bad
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Because gmud is acient.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no such thing...you mean mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: *sigh*
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is a variant
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Because gmud is ancient.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: I can send a screen shot or whatever you may need through email.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, the issue you're seeing is that one of your plugins was trying to capture MUD output, and it saw the "start" of what to capture, but it didn't see the "end" of what to capture...usually the reason for that is that your prompt doesn't end in a %c
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You using an older version? The newer ones have a prompt fixer that should prevent that.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: so do you think I should reinstall the mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, you should type 'config' and see if your prompt and battleprompt end in %c
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit and restart it
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they might not be able to see the config output
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: I can't see the output
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can see this conversation, can't you?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they see the convo in the comm log
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: exactly abelinc
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: and in the main screen all I see is what I have typed
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hit control-shift-p make sure Aard_Prompt_Fixer plugin is loaded and active, then relog
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: yes it is.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: it won't let me quit
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You have items that may be destroyed. Type 'quit quit' to force it.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: ok, still not working. here is what I get when I log in. trg_page_size:You do not page long messages.,size:nil- 0   page size 0  The Aardwolf MUSHclient Package has adjusted your prompt to end in '%c'.This is necessary for triggers to work consistently.*** Indexing area levels... *** Area levels indexed!--> Resuming paging... if enabled
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What was happening right before the problem began? Did you install a new plugin? Did you get any errors or problems?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: I don't do those kind of things without someone who knows what they are doing.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Also, does 'checkversion' give you any output?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: oh my gosh, when I shut it off, it works again?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: I shut off the prompt fixer and it works now.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Huh, weird.. Can you do that checkversion thing now?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: yes, it says You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1557
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yowwwwww, that's old.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forsaken Tanaya Tech: thank you everyone for your help. :)
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FapBot Pleiades Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think you ended up helping yourself, but you're welcome, heh
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, someone has made a Nintendo Switch Emulator now.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Someone did that the first week it came out.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not recall that. I recall them making a Wii U emulator run Zelda: BotW.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion nods at Turie.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, I should correct myself. Someone actually BUILT the Switch from scratch the first week or so it was out. It ran games, just not Switch games (yet).
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You are talking about the Retropie one. That was built in October.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://hackaday.com/2017/10/20/diy-nintendo-switch-may-be-better-than-real-thing/
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does have a bigger screen
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Maybe, thought it was far earlier, like a week or two after it came out, not months, but *shrug*
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: See, that's tempting because I have big gorilla hands, not the hands of an 8 year old Japanese girl
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Metria: The pro-controller is nice.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you should totally invest in a pair - the instructions arent translated very well, tho.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Metria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be6Ozc1_tAM
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Metria: Element14 did a nice mod for the right joycon.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I looking at it now, thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's a pretty cool mod, but WAY beyond my skill level to do
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Same.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wonder if you could do the same for the left joycon too. It would make the joycons more usable.
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok so i know u can make an alias to turn off a trigger group.... and u use the send toscript for the alias to turn on and off the trigger.... how can i turn on and off a timer?
T3/r7/2018-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: EnableTimer("name", true/false)
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}THE DONALD Jormungandr Tech: what's the best progrmaming language and why is it python
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mael Tech: for some reason, upon startup mushclient has disabled all output from the mud from showing up in my output window, and ideas how to fix this?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So weird to have a trigger that fires from inside MUSH, but that same trigger does not fire from inside a plugin...
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Despite copy/paste.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: sure you don't have regexp enabled/disabled in your script?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, direct copy/paste would prevent that.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: no as you can set regexp yes or no in your script
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Was one of the first things I checked.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yes, I'm aware, but it fired in MUSH, and I copy/pasted the exact same trigger into the plugin, without making changes.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm just at a loss, need to figure this out.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: is it possible to see the pattern?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sure. It's "@staff has 1 charge remaining." -- expand variables is ticked, and like I said, it fires in MUSH, but not in the plugin.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: variable substution work in plugins?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that sounds like a problem of scope...@staff is what kind of value?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's a string value, using SetVariable.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using SetVariable in the plugin, or in MUSH?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No different than when I do SetVariable("staff", "Awesome staff of power"), and then use it in a trigger.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It doesn't make a difference, Biker. It has the variable set in the Plugin (I have my debug script showing it).
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I removed it from MUSH here, just on the offchance it was interfering, but it still didn't fire.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=10781
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: according to gammon forum, expand wariables does not work in lua
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: variable substution work in plugins?i
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: eer miss-input lol
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Valour: That note is 7 years old, and it's not in Lua. :p
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's in the trigger line, in which variable expansion indeed works.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Trust me, I've used it quite extensively in some of my plugins.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: okay then
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I appreciate the effort in assisting me, though! :D
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Never hurts to have other brains trying to figure it out.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What I'm going to wind up doing is moving the plugin back to MUSH, rebuilding it there, using the plugin wizard, and see if I don't get the same problem.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I am not much of a expert of mush plugins but well, I tried :)
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley beams with pride at Valour.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I've never had a trigger work inside MUSH that didn't also work in the plugin, so this is new to me.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Would be curious to know if you figure it out, especially via the plugin wizard route
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So I figured it out... I think.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty sure it was an error that I completely missed... but there's a difference between Colour and ColourNote...
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Got it working now, whee.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, I just made a plugin with aliases "setme *" (SetVariable("staff", "%1")), "showme" (Note("Staff value is: " .. staff)), "showme2" (Note("Staff value is: " .. GetVariable("staff"))), and trigger "@staff has 1 charge remaining." (echo I fired!)...and that worked (showme would error out, showme2 would print the value of staff, and the trig would fire when "<value> has 1 charge remaining." was seen)
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FapBot Pleiades Tech: abelinc, can you set up my new client with appropriate aliases and everything else I might need to mud?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FapBot Pleiades Tech: and map all rooms, including cexits
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley grins evilly at you.  Hmmm.  Better keep your distance. 
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here ya go: http://abelinc.me/pleiades
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you say difference between Colour and ColourNote, did you mean between Note and ColourNote?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I was half-expecting it to go to some Missing Child site.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I was debating on which way to take that joke ;-)
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No, Biker, I meant precisely what I said. Apparently, I typed Colour("white", "blue", "message") instead of ColourNote().
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FapBot Pleiades Tech: I'm not sure all rooms are mapped in that package?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FapBot Pleiades Tech: I want to get "the works"
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has every room that I have ever mapped in MUSHclient in it
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sorry, Abelinc's not a Thai masseuse.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley cackles gleefully at you.  Better keep your distance from him. 
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, well yeah,I don't think Colour() is a thing at all
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It isn't.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: You weren't getting a Lua error?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If I did, I wasn't seeing it. I only caught it when I moved the script portion over to MUSH.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: where can i get latest search and destroy?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: finger starling
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: pcb vs wires. there was/is this trend of ripping out pcb from reissues of classic guitar amps and redo it with wires.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: so. is pcbs worse than wires somehow?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the only reason for asking is that the the ultimate clean sound was a simple amp with a couple wires in it. no pcb
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: anyone know how to make mushclient work on usbs with mapper and search and destroy... i copied over my whole mushclient and installed search and destroy onto my usb but doesnt seem to work
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That depends largely on "what doesn't work"
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: pcb wire traces are likely a different resistance to solid wires, pcb wire traces may be affected by capacitance etecetera differently to that of solid wires, the pcb design is bad compared to solid wires
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: like my mapper is all screwed up and doesnt show right room or coordinates cant really use any of the search and destroy commands...
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Have you tried just directly installing it to your USB drive?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And installing the plugins while they are on your USB drive?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: my mushclient is just copied over from my main computer? do i need to install it again from usb? i just installed search and destroy from usb thoug
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Relatively pathing and all that. It's just a guess, anyway. I've never had a problem running it from USB myself.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: alternatively, somebody said solid wires were superior to (badly designed) pcb (especially with low juice or high juice or even in-betweeen juice)
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Could you possibly just send him tells so we don't have to listen to you drone on, Xyliz? :p Seems you and he are the only two involved.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you disagree, say the reasons you disagree, although censorship of opinions is simpler -- even if the topic of "clean sound" is interesting to some
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I didn't say I disagree. I simply don't care, and as you're the only one who is talking about it...
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: Would someone familiar with MushClient send me a tell please?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thats what this channel is for.  out with it.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: I've never used the client before a few days ago, just DL'd the one from the website. I always sued Zmud in the past
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: I'm trying to make a very simple, basic trigger, but it's not working
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok what are you trying to trigger on?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: Your eyes glaze over, then just "look"
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have the period at the end of Your eyes glaze over?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: copy and paste as trigger:  https://pastebin.com/Za3PKe5w        
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: No period, and I turned off case sensitivity too
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need the period, as otherwise you're not exactly matching the line
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: Interesting
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the default pattern matching type is "glob", which is fully anchored (you can use "*" before and/or after to allow unanchored matches, or you can click the "Regular Expression" checkbox to use regex pattern matching type, which is not anchored by default (you'd need to use ^ and/or $ to anchor the start/end of the line)
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: You have to type match= "Your eyes glaze over." in the first field, just like that?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: There's my problem, I was just typing the trigger phrase, and the command in the lower box
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he's misunderstanding i think
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how to do it, yes
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you want to put: Your eyes glaze over.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in the trigger box
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although my preference is to use a 10-minute timer rather than a trigger for anti-idle...and for the action box, I'd use Send(""), with the send-to drop-down set to script
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way you just send a carriage return, rather than repeatedly looking
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all you need is a carriage return to not idle out
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: I think you lost me a bit
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he's using trigger dialog in mush, and he just started using it.  so you're drowning him biker :p
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: have to agree with endy on that
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instead of a trigger (which needs to "read" every line the MUD sends), I would use a timer
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: Yeah, I always used Zmud in years past. Was simple, enter the line, enter the command, no fuss
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just as simple, you just didn't put the right pattern
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's all you have to do.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Do not type 'match='
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's part of the XML code.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: Yeah, I followed someone's link and it completely threw me off
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to do exactly what you wanted to do, you'd just go to game -> config -> triggers, click add, paste "Your eyes glaze over." in the top thin space, and "look" in the huge space
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: When you get a link with XML code, if it's not a plugin, you can copy the entire xml output, open up triggers/alias and just paste.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OR, you can even do #trigger {Your eyes glaze over.} {look}
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a la zmud
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you want to use trigger dialog, here's what it should look like: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1s9nps5vv60cxd0/glaze.PNG?dl=0
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But yeah, what Biker said about the triggers is accurate. By default, MUSH reads everything as being anchored, so by only having "Your eyes glaze over", MUSH is looking for <start_of_line>Your eyes glaze over<end_of_line>.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you're needing variation, you can turn it into a regex trigger, or you can use * to indicate that <this> might change.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ideally, you want to be as strict as possible, though.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: I understand now, thank you
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: What would a disarm trig look like?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: As in, getting disarmed
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, I'd just use Bast's weaponswitcher plugin, which includes those triggers ;-)
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Look under the Aard Wiki, wiki.aardwolf.com/ -> General -> MUD Messages.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: I'm going to have to learn to use these plugins then
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You'll find a host of common trigger phrases.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Plugins are simple, actually. Pretty much just "install and forget about them".
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: All a plugin is is just a compiled set of triggers/aliases and script functions that work cohesively together.
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: there is an apple tree in maine
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: miss
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: How do I turn off the (affon) and (affoff) text whenever I cast a spell or it wears off?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tagsoff
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: help tags?
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tags
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags spellups off
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2018-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but a better thing is to use a spellup script/plugin, which uses those messages to keep you spelled up automatically, and hides them from sight
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoda Tech: How safe is it to use phone fingerprint scanner? What if the sensor breaks.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there's usually a PIN too
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoda Tech: Raded - Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have an iPhone and if my phone is in the wrong hand or if I have a bandage on my thumb or something I just punch in the PIN
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: a bandage huh
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I can't say Band-Aid because I don't want to get sued.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you mean strawberry shortcake bandaid
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I prefer Hello Kitty
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: those do make boo-boos feel better
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: makes me feel like a big kid
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: in my experience, fingerprint scanners are worthless - they have this tendency towards false-positives.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: plus someone could just cut your finger off and use it to unlock your overpriced iphone
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: isnt facial recognition the new thing?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: yeah and its kind freaky
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now they gotta cut your face off
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: tuck the boys, dance around, and wear your face to hack your phone
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: security vs convenience tho
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: anyone here?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Sure
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: mush is pitching me a ninnyball in some of the windows. I have question marks showing up with different fonts. not in the main window though. just any time it opens a new notepad window and stuff like that
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that looks like unicode/utf stuff
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean then some characters are represented as ?? if application was unable to convert characters from one codepage to other
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: any other way to turn that off? the box isn't checked
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: by notepad window you mean external application?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so then maybe you have changed its codepage ?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: even when I click display and recall text and search for something like quest or something that will show up a lot. it shows up as question marks and stuff in other fonts
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: anything I have sent to a notepad with a trigger starts off as that then goes back to normal.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: like when people talk on channels and such
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i kinda remember that you can change the encoding in mush... by default it is using some windows342942398429384 wat ever
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: where is that?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if it worked before it should work now, question is what changed? 
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i do not remember. sorry. look around in settings
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: I updated to latest aardmush
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess some default setting causes your problems
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: where is Fiendish when there are serious questions to answer :P
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: 5 days, 12 hours and 39 minutes ago.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: he couldn't take cackle's ragequit
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: font
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: doh mis
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: I think the latest update to aardmush is ninnied.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: ????????????
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm, it appears I have discovered why my mush keeps crashing. There were 9 zombie processes of mushclient 32 in my running processes
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: My AardMush crashes a bit more often with the update, but it is odd.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does not like some of Bast's plugins it seems.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: did you check if it was leaving processes running when it crashes?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not know how to check that right off.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ctrl+shift+escape
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: then goto the process tab, then sort by process name
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: anything in the recall window or notepad windows gets translated to stuff like this: ???????4????????????????????????????????????????????????4???????????????????????????????4??????????????
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: look for MUSHclient.exe *32 and see if there are more than one
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is using 35% of memory.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: edit are you using it under wine or native in windows?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: windows
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am on Win10.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: edit, I see that same thing. I will post a note to fiendish
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It started with the latest update. I have had to reinstall fresh unzipped Bast plugins three times now.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: the notepad windows eventually go back to normal but initially it's question marks that the screen reader identifies as being in different fonts.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: but the recall window is always the question marks
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have submitted a bug on his git
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Roume Tech: Is there a way to see an error in a plugin in mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Roume Tech: ie, what line of code?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: It will spit it out in orange text when there is an error
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Roume Tech: Tol. Seen. Thank you. Also is there a way in the editor to find that line easily?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the easiest way is to look for the line with <![CDATA[. Take that line number and add it to what ever the error said the line number was
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: seeing as to the interperture that was the first line
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: would you recommend disabling Microsoft Compatability Telemtry in Win10?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: it's taking up 20% of the cpu in spikes
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imm Blamer Pleiades Tech: that's a lot
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yes :)
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imm Blamer Pleiades Tech: I have it turned off
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imm Blamer Pleiades Tech: but then, I do that with a lot of features
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: hmm...this article i'm reading implies you need a program to do it
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: going to look around for another one, i don't want to download a program if i don't have to
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imm Blamer Pleiades Tech: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3nz0xh/windows_10_settings_for_it_admins/
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: hmm says it's in services.msc but I don't see it
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: I found it :)
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: it's called "Connected Users and Telemtry" in services
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: gonna reboot and see if things get better
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: How do I make a trigger to play a sound? Like if I wanted to hear a beep when I got the msg QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you scripting in lua?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Using mush, definitely not very knowledgable
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: think the default is lua. Place the sound in the folder 'sounds' under your mushclient folder and then you can use "PlaySound(1, <filename>)"
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: where <filename> is the name of the file you want to play.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: In your trigger, you'll tell it to send to script instead of world. Should be good after that.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Will see what happens next time qtimer rolls around :P
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: turn your volume way up so it scares the crap out of you if it works... then thank me after your pulse returns to equilibrium =P
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to use lua or scrpting to play a sound...the trigger definition window has a sound section, just browse to the sound file
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Zenpad 8. Any thoughts?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's supposedly rootable, if that's important to you. You didn't really say what you're looking for.
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Looking for cheapest one that can run nougat, without rooting
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Cause I can't be bothered to root
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do i remember correctly seeing something about being able to request certain info via gmcp?  can anyone reference a note or some info about what is available?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not standard info, but settings stuff
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP#aardmodules_room
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: whoops, has the #hash on there
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: config variables, you can get and toggle them via gmcp now
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's just standard stuff. wasn't there something mentioned about checking paging and stuff like that?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: any reference or info available?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: board announce;note read 1289
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thank you sir
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: theres a helpfile somewhere...
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: help gmcpconfig
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so sick of trying to catch autoass output :p
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh no! its not on the list
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol was just gonna say, i dont see it
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but that is a config option *cry
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah someone should post to typos and have it added as related help file!
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea, oversight i think. ideas note for sure
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: would agree with that one in a second :)
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it has like every one but that rofl
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no autoass or autopk
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: autopk? like nograce?
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no autopk is autoass for pk only
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i see
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: really good for getting a drag and not getting sucked into SH fight
T3/r7/2018-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its always off for me anyway
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im trying to make a page to handle a webhook, but it seems like when i request the page, it says the domain does not match, is that most likely because i misconfigured the dns?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: doh, nm i figured out what i did wrong
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that sounds more like you don't have the webserver/vhost configured correctly
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: no my database was failing the connect because i forgot to whitelist the new domain name
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoda Tech: Hi I got a Cellphone question, is here a person to help me?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you are better off just asking your real question.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoda Tech: When I turn screen brightness all the way down, there is a thin line of blinking pixels on bottom of screen. Now if I increase the brightness it stops. Its a brand new phone btw.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: was there a question?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Sounds like a defect to me, but I don't know things
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: sounds like this issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_pixel#Bright_dot_defects
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoda Tech: Finally got it fixed. The latest update made the phone's hardware and software be in conflict, they cant decide which one must control back light settings. Developer options/Rendering section/Turn off hardware overlay fixed it.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quantiko Tech: hello, i have a problem, no messages appear on the comm log, only the main window
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: did you recently click on the comm log and set it to not collect anything?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you turn off tags? 
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: right-click comm log goto customize channels, make sure they are all highlighted, the ones you want
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using a new MUSHclient, you don't need tags for channels
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quantiko Tech: yesterday i asked how to make comm only appear on comm log and i was told to type echo none, but after that the messages ONLY appeared in the main window 
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quantiko Tech: oh ok it seems to work now, i had to higlight the channels
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: im on ipad mini and when i use single or double quotes it turns into question mark   i thought this was only happening in mudrammer but tryng to type up some simple codes in online compilers it?s doing the same   anyone know a fix?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is it an autocorrect setting, happen in other thigns?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is it an autocorrect setting, happen in other thigns?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry was trying to aim priest :)
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: it?s not an autocorrect   i don?t think  i can text using this device without that happening
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: looking for some help with Mush troubleshooting
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I lost power, and when I rebooted, Mush isn't working properly
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: minimaps work fine, communication log window works fine, stats window works fine
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: main window isn't working
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I can move, but it doesn't show anything (no room info)
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pecado Tech: is any way to stop the S&D trying to get to a destination if on the way there the path is disrupted?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: disrupted how
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: if it's doors, you need to teach your mapper about them.... mapper cexit open north;;north
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: the 2 ;; is important
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pecado Tech: like the room is noportal, and S&D tries to portal then spam me all the rest of the path
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pecado Tech: i don't have problem with doors, mostly its the noportal rooms that breaks my S&D paths
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: When starting mush I get a "sharing violation occurred while accessing <path>\Aardwolf.mcl" error. Anyone knows what to do to fix it?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: go fix your paths in the .mcl file
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you moved the folder and the sound or script file was hard coded like C:/path/path
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: need to either not use sounds and scripts or change them
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Haven't moved anything, just went to restart mush after remort. But I'll check all paths.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Hmm... paths are the same (apart from adding new plugins) as a backup from last month. That one works, current one doesn't. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with mysql, is there a way to build a query that runs one thing, then another? basically i want to do an UPDATE then a SELECT within the same instance, if i can
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: DB2 has syntax like SELECT * FROM FINAL TABLE (UPDATE blah blah)
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: I don't know about other rdbms's
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: oh you said mysql
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: i want to say no with mysql
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: is there a way to reset sharptracker as i'm getting loads of errors on a new install
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: found it, st_Reset
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: where is fiendish
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I have a mushclient complaint
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fiendish has solicitated his services to India. Please hold for the next available representative. His name will be Mark.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: Anyone ever have any issue running two mud clients at once? I get disconnect on CMud when i have Mushclient running, cant even use it on my phone if on the same wifi. Once I disconnect from wifi it works fine.... 
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Why are you trying to run two mud clients at once?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: obviously mushclient for AARD, running Cmud for another as I have aliases etc set up in it
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: playing two different games :P
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I run 2 mud clients :)
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo slaps Ex Machina Anaristos.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ex Machina Anaristos peers intently at A Nimwit Bamboo.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: have you been able to connect with both clients previously?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: if you close one are you able to connect with the other and vice versa?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: on the next episode of "To catch a Multiplayer", a Nimwit fails to get a confession from a suspected dirtbag...
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I don't see why you should have problems connecting, especially with cmud and mush.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes it makes no sense why that would happen
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: never had a problem running one or the other
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: just noticed today they I got disconnected from Cmud, wouldn't even connect on phone so I though the mud was down (other mud)
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you should be able to run both. If you can't then shouldn't be able to browse either while connected to the mud.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: happened at work then at home, so two different Wifi networks.. Disconnect from wifi on phone and it loaded right up..
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: Mush stayed 100% active the whole time
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I've been running both clients concurrently for over 4 years now and have never experieced any connection problems of that nature.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you using DHCP for both devices?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: DHCP?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: where your router auto assigns IP address
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ah, not sure
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: then the answer is probably yes.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: but if you dchp lease expired, it would kick mush offline also...
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i was just concerned about same IPs, cause what else could cause that?
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the lease is renewed practically every day.
T3/r7/2018-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: on an Android?sc
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: damn, having the ability to set cost on mapper exits would be sweet
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as in being able to mark an exit/cexit as being more expensive than the others
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: what is the correct way to get saved table variable in a script? I am checking the response of GetVariable if not nil and trying to get it with loadstring. if its nil, I am saving it up with serialize.save_simple
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I am getting an error about attempt to concatenate a nil value at: luastmt = "variable = " .. GetVariable("someVar")
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: it only happens on one client
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: in lua can i mix End with end anf Function with function?
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: - h
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: not sure if all lua interpreters are as pedantic as the blowtorch one but you can't even use If instead of if. Damn annoying when the keyboard capitalises words
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: so im currently forced to use my hotspot on my cell to use internet on my computer, under a proxy. anyone know how to get mush to let me connect?
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: enter www.aardmud.org and the port is 7777
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i shall try that 
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: didnt do it, for some reason i can use the internet but not mud. i had to set up a network proxy on my laptop to use my hotpot app.
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: use blowtorch?
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its free on the google store app
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: ive used blowtorch for years. lol just having to temp use my cell data
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Socialist Raded Tech: could be a DNS issue
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: go under settings and bluetooth it if you have too
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: that is if you have bluetooth set up
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Socialist Raded Tech: so you'd use the IP address instead of aardmud.org
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: changing to ip seemed to of gotten me a little further thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it sometimes takes me weeks and a few iterations to realize a solution to a problem that should be simple. I went through three version of the text substitution plugin before the current one
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: -1
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: hah
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: re: the note on the notepad bug, it also shows up in recall windows too. the notepads will go normal after a few lines of gibberish. the recall windows don't.
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I believe the recall function and the notepad window are basically the same code in mushclient
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which would explain why the problem happens in both
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: it went somewhere for my password what the hell
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: so its stalking us and lett8ng uz knkw where we log on from
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: When I'm gagging something via a trigger, is it normal to get a blank line? Is it possible to not?
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's because there's a spacing line after the line you're gagging. Try updating your pattern to include the following line, maybe?
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Ah, ok
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Be careful if you do that though.  If you have compact mode on, it won't match if you expect a space to be there
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Nods
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i seem to have lost the map mini window in mush. Reinstalling the plugin doesn't seem to bring it back - any other suggestions?
T3/r7/2018-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: those who has alts, are playing with different client installation?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well atleast the need dedicated databases
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: guessed so. Mapper does not have some kind of option for multiple chars
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: it doesn't need one if you're smart about variables etc
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: yes but what about portals?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: it will take some time before I can gather the same portals. So mapper will try to go using nonexistent portals
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: what about them? they always have the same names and you can use '' to help with that
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: use what?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: use 'key words for portal' is treated as one thing, then use variable for the bagname of the
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: use 'key words for portal' is treated as one thing, then use variable for the bagname of the (362210)
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: umm damn sneaky alias should have been Portal Bag
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: also some exits are character based... like goal reward shortcuts. so it would be pretty messy to use one db for multiple characters. and this is client agnostic
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I have utf-8 turned on but still lacking some letters where dots are above them
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: help?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aardwolf doesn't accept all characters. what are you trying to type
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: just chatting, the problem has to be on my client side, because it works perfectly fine on the other end
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: we both use mush
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: don't you need the iso-8????-1?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: dunno...where can I find it?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: 8859-1
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: pardon?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "just chatting" doesn't help me know what you're trying to type
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Pardon denied, u going to jail
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you need to use proper font ?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I'm using mostly default settings...
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean you need both tick utf-8 and then select font that supports utf-8
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: O - see...that's supposed to have dots on it
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ö <- dots
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: exactly!
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: mine doesn't work :(
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then you're not typing it right
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try copy/pasting what I typed
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: how am I supposed to be typing it then? I have a key for that on my keyboard....
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: just a sec
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok but first try copy/pasting
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: just a sectech O <- dots
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: O <- dots
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: yeah... :(
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is your input font set to?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: try alt+153
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: appearence - output shows Courier new
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Ö
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Not appearance output. Input - Commands
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Ö <- dots that is without utf-8 checked
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: also courier new
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: alt + 153 on the keypad, ninja
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I try to uncheck it
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: don't uncheck it :p
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: O
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: still...
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not everyone has a keypad, stars
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I can see it as I write it, but it gets lost when sent to the game
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is your font setting? Courier New but what script ?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: script?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: latest mushclient upgrade set my computer on fire and burnt a hole in my keyboard
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do i fix this
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: I think script shouldn't matter
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my script is Western and I can use it fine
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if I change it to Hebrew it still works
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when I type say Ö <- dots - it output Ö, but also: yellow (echo I guess) say Ö <- dots
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, funny :P say @C[square] <- dots@w
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: yeah probably some minor bug in the local echo
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but when I untick UTF-8 it looks ok (both command sent (yellow) and output You say ...)
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: UTF-8 output checkbox is needed for maptypes
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I have it checked
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Remps what version of mush do you use?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: 5.06-pre
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. there's a thread in the forum about the same thing with no resolution
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if maybe OS language influences it
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: it's english
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no. I saw that you forked the repo though
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, I'm stumped
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I hope someone figures it out
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps (
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Is there a "hack'ish" way to easily search through a mini-window's contents and change the color (fg/bg) of specific text, some kind of easy search/replace from one plugin to the other? I'd rather not modify one of the plugins directly
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what miniwindow and text?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Yes, text. Let's say the stats mini-window, say I wanted to search for Str and turn it red if it were debuffed for example
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not without changing the plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If I remember correctly, the stats windows utilizes a CSS-style output.
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: That's not what I'm after, was just an example.. Ok, guess I'm chaning the other plugin then, thanks :)
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: don't tell me what you're not looking for. tell me what you are looking for.
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the surest way to get a wrong answer is to do something dumb like hide what you're actually trying to accomplish
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it also makes people who are trying to answer your questions resent you
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think, ultimately, he was thinking there was some universal setting for text across plugins, and he just wants to be able to do Replace... within any plugin he desires.
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edit Tech: looking at earlier conversations on here, do I need to have utf8 on? when it's ticked it does some funny things that interfere with reviewing the output window with a screen reader.
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: utf8 is mostly useful for alternate ascii maptypes
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and even then only when displayed in the main output
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: funny interfering things might be reported on the mushclient forums
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Sorry if I caused resentment with the example. Was going for what Crowley described.
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there is no general way to modify text programmatically. you can modify pixels, though.
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there may be specific ways to modify text depending on the miniwindow
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: like on the mapper mini-window?
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you can write any pixels you want to any miniwindow you want
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone sitting on a double exp plugin?  I used to have one with cmud, that would send an email when double hit
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: like while your logged in, the plugin captures it, and send u an email which u can have directed to your cell phone number and it will show up as a text.  perfect for while your at work.  
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Abelinc's twitter feed updates whenever there's double. :p
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: yea, shit goes off all through the night and everything!! lol i just want it while im logged in
T3/r7/2018-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Set an audio warning?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: how can I extract the audio files from a MKV file? VLC does it but only track by track, not in bulk and I have quite a few to do...
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: any recommended software? Window movie maker used to ... but I can't see it anymore
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: try ffmpeg but it is command line driven
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: thnks
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: any idea why regular copy/paste (not color copy) would cause my mush to crash? It's on the latest version
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvaerk Tech: how do I reset the windows on MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aardreset
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvaerk Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvaerk Tech: Oh, that didn't work... do I just do it in the main command window?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: it's resetaard, I believe.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarvaerk Tech: That did it! Thanks!
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In mushclient triggers, when the output is being sent to script, what is the comment character? I want to comment out a couple lines.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if lua double dashes, --
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: where could I find a plugin that highlights my quest and campaign mobs?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast plugins has one.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: AardMUSH. Who has Tintin?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I read it on his page, but couldn't find it among the plugins
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: is it combined with some other stuff?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: is it combined with some other stuff?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: yeah, it is a file with all his plugins
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: the zip file contains smth like 30-40 plugins but I don't see smth like that among them
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: it's called scan_highlight
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I, too, would like to know the name of this CP/Q mob highlighting plugin.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I think maybe I've downloaded a wrong file or smth, 'cause it seems to be missing
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: scan_highlight is the file you need from the folder.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just got the message "Tag option scan turned ON". I assume this means the plugin has successfully initiated itself.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: then I have the wrong file, I don't see it...ok I try to download different files until I get it
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: SHould be.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: from that website you see in finger bast, just click on BASTMUSH and click on download. the plugin will be in the Bast folder
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bast's stuff, you go to https://github.com/endavis/bastmush, then click the green "clone or download" and select "download zip"
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shotgun seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or his "click here to download the latest" link
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: it shows me an error
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: and doesn't load
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in your MUSHclient\plugins folder, do you have the whole folder named "Bast"?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I have a folder under plugins/6.1 as the zip was named
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: some error about colours
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunon about a folder named 6.1...the zipfile downloaded should have either been called "bastmush-release.zip" or "bastmush-bastmush-r2100.zip"...that should have had a folder under it, with a folder under THAT named Bast...and you would need to move/copy the folder named Bast to your Plugins folder
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: yeah, the folder's name is bastmush-bastmush-r2100
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: now it loaded apparently correctly but isn't working...ok, I look into it in a while
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm how can i resize my window it seems locked.. is there an unlock or something?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: oh...it highlights my questmob but not my campaign mobs
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: maybe that's how it's supposed to work?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: mine highlights quest, cp, gq mobs
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have bast's campaign stuff loaded?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: nope
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I guess I have to do it then
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm is there away to unlock your windows on much client so you can move them around and make them larger?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes. Type 'aard layout unlock'
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: is there a way to manually link 2 room IDs in mapper by a custom command?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: link, in what way?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: connect the ID of 1st room with the ID of 2nd room by a custom exit like: open west
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you use mush?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mapper help cexit
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: err, mapper help search cexit
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: yes I use mush.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: so you need the open command before the move command?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: not necessarilly, any custom command. Most important is the manual aspect of the link. Same as mapper cexit does with a custom command automatically with 2 rooms...
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: why won't cexit do the trick?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: because when you enter the room it throws you in a maze room
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are you referring to gauntlet?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: preciselly
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I would like to find a way to link the High Priest's Chamber with the room of the Gauntlet where it throws you in
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: so as to allow the mapper to go to the Gauntlet directlly
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PagRat Tech: how can i recall variable in mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: entering the high priest's room puts you in the maze
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: just got that room
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: goto*
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: who wants to do a mush job. requires knowledge about miniwin, graphics and statistics. 10k qp
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's the job?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: damage tracker
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: graphical damage tracker
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: ohh yes please
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: been drooling at that for years
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: since all combat stuff happens mostly in 3 sec intervals, it shouldnt be too hard:)
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: most*
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: ok. sleep on this. this offer will not expire
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what kind of graphical tracker are you looking for?  like the % of your enemy counting down, like the status bar?  seems like theres not much to consider or sleep on because you havent described anything
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: are you up for the job or just poking?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Trying to figure out exactly what you want... can already track damage with dtrack
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: omg really?  what job?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: a miniwin that updates itself each 3 seconds. well, split miniwin - damage done and received. like the fps counter for those digital foundry vids
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: which are stolen from somewhere...
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: the details are kinda obscure but thats the ideqa
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh right "those digital foundry vids" which we've all seen.  gotcha
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I guess something like bast damtracker with more stats, on a miniwin
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: snarkyman Endy. let me do the youtube search for you... https://youtu.be/faaU6Ih_aDE?t=507
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dont be a tool.  if that is possible.  i am trying to figure out what your vague request is, so i think im not gonna google/youtube something i have no idea about
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe i should review 1000 vids and ask you if each one is the one you are talking about
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're going to make a request for something to be coded, a coder is going to want specific requirements and specifications
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: dont be a jerk if thats possible. graphical damage tracker. with example given as fps tracker via a link
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Don't be silly Endy, you can use mechanical turk for that.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i dont even know if are in for the job or just chatting.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes.. the link you provided with the pretense of doing my work for me.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: if i knew you would take it, i'd be happy to explain in detail
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And if he knew what the detail was, he might know if he'd want to do it or not :P
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: graphical damage tracker that updates in 3 seconds. in the format similar to the thing in that link.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: you geeks. you want too much in advance
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not interested, good luck
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: lets sit on it, think about it, do it
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i hope i didnt offend Metria now.. geek!=bad word
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nope. I don't care if you call us geeks. I just know I don't want you as a client.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: now you're turning the tables. please be straightforward and just tell whats in your mind
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, was kind of interested in doing this.. then read this wall of text and now I am not :p
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's the mystery? I told you exactly what was on my mind, I'm not interested in working with you on this. End of story.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: ok. off you go:)
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You want to know what we're thinking? We're thinking that there's not anywhere near enough details in order for us to even attempt to figure out how much effort this would take. It's difficult to track rounds of combat. I watched the video and am under the impression that you'd like a real-time magnitude displayed of the outgoing damage along with the incoming damage. Are you looking to have the damage from each possible method tracked (ie. spells vs weap). This seems like a rather large undertaking when there are things that do just that with no graphical interface.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: heh, didn't realize I wrote a book.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: wow
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: dont do that again
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The gods fall down laughing at Fatal FrostBite's request for mercy.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddTbNKWw7Zs
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: here's hoping I can trust Canada
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: nope... can't trust Canada. I just lost 1.5 mins of my life!
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards SirCanada.
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, looking at -h, I'm confused...there are no damage graphs in the youtube vid celebrity posted...
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: Is there a plugin out there, that will put a consider of all mobs in a window for me? Maybe that ipdates with kills and as you move?
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that sounds incredibly spammy. i would do it in my main window :p
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keredain: http://abelinc.me/consider is one (shortcut link to a MUSHclient forum thread with a plugin written by Blainer, updated by Strazor and Kobus)
T3/r7/2018-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredain Tech: Thanks Biker!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How do you backup the mapper database?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it should occur automatically
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: otherwise, just copy the file and paste a copy somewhere else
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: mapper help utils
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Which file is it saved in? :)
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: aardwolf.db in your mushclient root folder
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm just paranoid like that :)
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: but you can copy aardwolf.dd (while mush not running) if you want
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, and it is importable in a new installation and contains everything?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You don't need to even import it.  Just put the copy in your mushclient root folder, load it up, and go.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Excellent, thank you!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Load mushclient up and go, I meant :)
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but to be safe do a backup of the whole lot regularly
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and you can do that with copy paste WITH MUSH SHUT DOWN.!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I kind of figured that mush does a lot of I/O during runtime :)
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Avast's hates Fiendish's update!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, it usually does for some reason.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: How do I fix a path to an area when my mapper is taking me on a SW that seems to go through rooms that have been changed?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: xrt jotun for example runs me through the touchstone clanhall into a deadend
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Delete the room?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I deleted the exits room in the touchstone clanhall and remapped all the exits out of it but no success
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: make it output the speedwalm, then find the problem exit and delete it
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: That is exactly what I tried
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Went to the room that had the bad exit and deleted it, remapped all the exits out of it and it's still taking me to it lol
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Bleh I'm sorry, I was deleting the wrong room. Thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Too early :P
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what exit/room turned out to be the problematic one?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: One sec
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: A Gemstone Studded Staircase, Touchstone Clanhall
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I guess they've changed the exits since I played last
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Turie: virustotal doesn't show anything from Avast
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I will try it now then.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I cannot open it oddly. I will try again later.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: making a mush plugin. how to force a miniwin to be on top of any other miniwins?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can do it manual I believe.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look in https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Z-Order-Monitor
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: thanks. i thought there was some easy command for that
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: eh. damn simple:)
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ginosh Tech: hello, Ihave  aquestionif anyonehas a second
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: the space bar is the big one at the bottom
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ginosh Tech: i just answered my own question. lol
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: awesome!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ginosh Tech: it is my first time using the mushclient for aardwolf and i could not see the text that i was typing. \
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ginosh Tech: all is well now. thx anyway
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: welcome to aardwolf!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ginosh Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Hmmm, using bast plugin I'm having a problem, bsp odd all doesn't add any spells...
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: sorry bsp add all
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: sorry bsp oadd all
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its bsp sadd
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Geeez
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I'm trying to setup for others.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: never used that part, sorry
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: It can't add others spells I think. Its not a bsp problem. Its just not programmed that way
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: you need to add them by one by
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im actually going to stop using bast's spellup, i find it much more tedious than just typing spellup once in awhile
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I mostly only use it for the autorecast...otherwise I'd have to setup an idle trigger.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Well I am using it and pretty happy about it. Its better than Winkle's
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Looks like the muds spellup command works fine for spelling up others.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: why is it better than Winkle's?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: well its faster. and have much more ability to control your spellups. also it automaticly starts to cast it if the spellup is in list and not learned
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: it tracks the practice situation. only downside is bast's plugins takes too much time on client's startup
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I don't mind that, thanks for the info.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: for example I don't suggest anyone bast's stat monitor
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: gritz: yea i have an 'spo' alias that make sure it casts sanc and other forgotten spells. works fine
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: well I never typed anything to cast spellups. not even once for weeks
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I just set an order in bsp for all spellups for all classes. It auto casts them when they learned.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: does it auto-cast them when they expire?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: yes. as soon as they expire
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I've honestly had nothing but problems with the bast plugins.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: like I said. some of his plugins feels like laggy. But I like spellup plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I love the stat tracking.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: do you mean stat monitor?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You kids and your scripts these days... Back in my day... I had to send 1s and 0s for the mud to understand what I wanted!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Or else I would just remove them all
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I remember Mudding from telnet at school...I have no idea how I did it. :P
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Kiss my Gritznakka.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: well the ppl used to shoot each other for lands and small things. its not what we have to do around these days, yes Frost :)
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite laffs at Valour.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Valour laughs out loud at Fatal FrostBite.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: mush miniwin question. WindowCreate works instantly when called but WindowText (called the same time) works only after a new line comes from mud
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: why?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you might need to call Redraw
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what text is the windowtext using? is it from the mud?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or Repaint
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: no. my own
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite rapidly nods twice at Useless Celebrity, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: mush - can i call a function with AddTimer?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=AddTimer
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: why not just make the timer and enable it with a function?
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i want the timer to make a function call each second
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: AddTimer ("updateTracker", 0, 0, 1.5, "",  timer_flag.Enabled, "drawWinContents()" )
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: this doesnt work..
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i guess the last thing there is only for calling another script.. functions are not mentioned in that help file
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: or im missing something..
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: take off the ()
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: ^
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: was just typing that =P
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to use a timer for this, you only want to draw it when you actually have changed data...
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so have the draw function be part of adding the new line
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: oh cool. thanks!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you wanted to ignore conventional advice, the way to do what you wanted to do would be to have an alias do_timer_func send-to-script, and have that alias be what the timer does
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: removing ()s helped. im trying to make an animation happen here, Biker
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter if you're trying to make an animation happen, a timer is still the wrong thing, because the timer doesn't know or care about the animation
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Already told you what that would require. Lua is not geared for graphics.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: well. i cant stop now!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: and ".dll" is too scary for me to even google it
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Ever see a train speeding towards an object on the tracks? I tried to warn you =P
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: heh:)
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: hah. a perfect animation done with mush : https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eD0ZGeb5Fykkphmyt1t5RwZ8hpcdx3FY
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: must stop now. stumbled onto "tables". wth
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: didnt know that removing a plugin wont clear the miniwin itself. yeah. dont try the plugin if you dont want to "resetaard"
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: omg. resetaard didnt work... wth.
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you removed the plugin, it's not going to be there to listen to 'resetaard' requests
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: yeah ok. do not try this plugin!
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: \\\WindowDelete("test_b1ed1f045a002e2433e45571")
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Proof my phone is accessing my stuff... I sing songs on Smule. Today, my daughter mentions in FB messenger that one of her favorite musicals is "Into the Woods"... "Recommended" for me now shows "Into the Woods"...
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: didnt work for me, but i dont use that damtype
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: it works with damage 5
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: well. it will. tomorrow
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that "resetaard" doesn't do anything for any plugin that doesn't implement Fiendish's window stuff...you'd have to have the resetaard alias, and a reset_aard() function telling the miniwin where you want it to default to...
T3/r7/2018-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and glancing at the plugin, IMO it's cleaner to do one alias of "gdt *" which goes to a function that does different things based on the argument being wn, n, c, show or hide, rather than 5 individual aliases
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What am I doing wrong here? Trigger: ^You need to be more disruptive\. The * is still there\!$ (regex) - cast '%1' (send to world).
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (MUSH)
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you are using the fail message from disrupt to cast the message?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: (.*) 
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh right, forgot I had to do that. Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yeah, that's the problem but what is he trying to do?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that trigger doesn't look like it would work as is.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: try cast 412 '%1'
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh right, I forgot to add disrupt.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Still not managing to get the trigger to even trigger >_>'
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ah, it works now. I think there might've been a misplaced space.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's the difference between (.*) and (.*?), by the way? Both work.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: one is greedy the other is lazy, in this case it doesn't matter since it will stop at 'i' in 'is'.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: rather ' i' in ' is'
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I wouuld use (.*)? because that guarantees that I won't capture the entire line.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's a 3rd variation?! Dammit!
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anaristos, could you explain the difference between the 3?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it would be better for you to read a tutorial online, they can explain it way better than I can.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: https://www.regular-expressions.info/repeat.html
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: by the way, that is a page in a complete regex tutorial, worth reading as much as you can, the index is on the left margin.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I will!
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: does anyone using Bast's spellup script know why, if you go afk, the spells would go in a 'P' pending state, and are not recast. I can see the state via 'bsp list'.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: it pauses when you go afk
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: but then I move and they are not recast
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: anyone know the command to restart the stat tracker for S&D?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: how to remove the miniwin after removing the plugin that created it?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: remove with plugins>remove
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a good plugin will do that for you
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 1. make plugin properly, or 2. \\\WindowDelete(windowID)
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: mine is not. how can i tell my plugin to remove itself after being removed manually?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: ok. how to make a plugin properly?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: thing is, the info is scattered. some of it is by you, some is mush specific, some lua. i get crosseyed often
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in OnPluginClose the plugin should remove the window
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: alternatively, you could just restart mushclient
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if its the same plugin you posted yesterday, then just do this for crying out loud: \\\WindowDelete("test_b1ed1f045a002e2433e45571")
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i told you teh same thing yesterday
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: yep. thanks for that too:) i did use it:)
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: the damage tracker so far. needs a few updates. but its safe to install now. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-rKgDtCI5T03tq0hOHgcaFNnJG1JOP9h
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno man all i see is this obnoxious window with your name on it.  i even changed to damage 5 which and used a skill (which is apparently all its coded for) and i see nothing
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: any Chromebook experts out there?  Kid has an Asus c101pa and the camera is not detected.  Tried several apps and Hangouts, nothing detects camera.  Did a powerwash, reset settings, logged in as another user and still not detected.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not very familiar with chromeos and i cant find anything on the web other than what i've tried so far
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Endy, that sounds like plain old hardware failure
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the builtin camera?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i did it watchin liverpool play awful. it was a bitter joke.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yep built in
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sounds like hardware failure according to what i've found, thought i'd check here
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea not sure of even any resources to tell you to check, theyre mostly maintenance-free as far as the software goes. but you can reinstall the os i just couldnt tell you where to begin with that
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think that's what powerwash does?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That sounds right, yeah
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: pretty much
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i think that just clears all the settings, like a factory reset
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah powerwash is just settings..  guess there's a way to reload it via usb.  going to try that.  thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh missed last few messages heh.  going to do the recovery.  if that doesnt work its going back for replacement, christmas present so can still be returned
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you power washed your chromebook?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh yea thats way too early for hardware issues
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hardware issues tend to be early or late, so it'd make sense I guess.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hardware issues are likely during a power wash
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I always thought as long as you tumble dryed low, you're good?  that not the case?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Mendaloth, it's obvious you know NOTHING of technology.  Power wash is when you use the dishwasher's "Pots and Pans" setting.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i did wash my keyboard in a dishwasher before, and it did work alright for about 3 months or so.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: did you use dishsoap?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh so just a rinse then?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: wikihow > https://www.wikihow.com/Clean-a-Keyboard-in-a-Dishwasher  
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: but i don't recommend it though. like i said the keyboard died after 3 months later.  not sure if coincidence or not.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: 6 Reconnect your clean, thoroughly dry keyboard to your computer and see if it works
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wheres the wikihow for eating tide pods?
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: my last couple of keyboards cost me nothing
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wouldnt be too bad to try out if it gets exceptionally dirty
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yup if you spilled coke. and gets sticky. yea. might as well.
T3/r7/2018-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's not what power wash means
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Can someone school me on lua regexp? (Not perl) I'm getting tripped up by parentheses. I tried "%((.+)%)" to capture the text in the parentheses to no avail. What am I missing?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you escape with \
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: that's perl ;)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or wait, unless you mean inside lua code not a plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite rapidly nods twice at Endymion, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what is the function?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im note sure which, but not all have captures
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: it works with the general "(.+)" but as soon as I try to dip into the parentheses it doesn't match anymore :(
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno man, it seems to work fine.  are you using gmatch?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lua string patterns are not regular expressions
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: oh hey Fiendish!
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'm listening... I'm using wait.regexp. That's Lua regexp.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: got an error when I used \ as an escape. Documentation says use the %.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's a regexp, but aside from being passed through the wait module, it actually has little to do with Lua
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: inside it's calling AddTriggerEx
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the only thing that is a Lua regex is the rex module, which is PCRE
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: AddTriggerEx is also doing PCRE, but not specifically Lua
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: then why did I have an error when I used \ to escape the parens?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you probably need two of them, because \( is not a valid escape sequence in Lua
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try 
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try \\(
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is a problem of stacking multiple levels of escapes
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: oh, is this a pass through problem?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: ^
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I smell what you're cooking ;)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: That was indeed the problem. TYVM Fiend!
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: np
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: anyone using Bast's spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Not I.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I have this issue where my clan's V1 spell, if it fails, sends all the other spells on state P as in paused and so they are not recast unless i do a 'bsp refresh' or start killing mobs
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: call it a feature and kill more :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: did you have the plugin modified to incorporate your v1 skill?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: yes I used the bsp toggleclan spell and that spell is also visible on the bsp slist list
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I have also tried moving it in the first or top position of the list, but the result is the same
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'm guessing it something in the modification that's causing your issue. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: arrays in mush are accessible with key or the value. but not with index, right_
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what index?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: index like in javascript
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you mean tables?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: no, array
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no tables
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i read this page for now, https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=ArraySet
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as far as I can see, arrays don't really exist, they're just tables
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: weird i never knew there was ArraySet function
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty sure it's really just using the name "array", but functionally you're just nesting a table as the value of a key in a different table
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i see. its fine. how efficient are those in mush? should i worry about cleaning up or can they take say, 100k items and be still quick enough?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're dealing with 100k items, make a sqlite database
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: hm. too hard. cleaning up is easier. thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: May want to look into coroutines for cpu intensive tasks.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can get it by index.  are you creating the arrayset first?  \\\ArrayCreate("test") ArraySet("test", "one", 1) ArraySet("test", "1", "one") Note(ArrayGet("test", "one")) Note(ArrayGet("test", "1"))
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: yep. i kinda imagined something like that. thanks:)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also important to separate MUSHclient from Lua (I was thinking of Lua arrays and not MUSHclient arrays in my earlier comments)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i <3 lua tables anyway, down with world.Arrays!
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCtzkaL2t_Y
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuloft Tech: hello?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Hiya!
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuloft Tech: I have a tech question about Mushclient. Is there a way to get 256 colors instead of the standard ANSI?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not sure i understand... mushclient should work with 256 colors.  are you not seeing all 256 colors?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you have "xterm" off in the mud?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuloft Tech: possibly
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: submit: xterm
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuloft Tech: I'm running 4.73. I don't know how to use xterm. I only know how to use the output function to customize the ansi colors.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuloft Tech: what would I do to enable xterm?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: type xterm
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuloft Tech: well that went well
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuloft Tech: thank you for your help
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: your welcome.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: anyone know how to fix :Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error. on s&d?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's not the real error, that's the symptom. Reload the plugin, try again, and post the FIRST error.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: ok, ty
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: this? no such column: r.date_added
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Your S&D is VERY VERY OLD and out of date. The mapper schema has changed, a long while back.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you need to update your s&d methinks
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: would make sense, i got this from my old laptop from before i wen on hiatus for a year
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: anyone know where to find the updated version of the top of their head?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: either finger nokfah or starling for a newer version
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's several fixed versions floating about. Starling and Nokfah come to mind.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: ty
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: that fixed it, thanks all
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria enthusiastically high-fives Pheal My Redwood!
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: anyone can recommend a screen recorder?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How about OBS?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://obsproject.com/
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: is there a way for a mush trigger to do something like send an email, send a text, ping a website, run a php script, etc?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: sure
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I wanna add
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Take a look at the async.lua file, it might provide some answers.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: there is an implied ability to use COM objects with mush, so the sky is the limit.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You could also set up a web server that does what you want, and then make calls to it
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I've yet to do it but I did discuss it with Gammon once and he said it would work.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: yea ive got the web server capabilities - was just curious on how to communicate from mush to said serber
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, a web server is actually a great idea but if you can also do it with tcp or named pipes.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: create a windows service (if you are on windows) and use tcp to communicate with backend servers.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: linux curl ftw
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: +1
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I am doing it with cmud (I am in the alpha testing stage) where I send invdata to a COM object who broadcasts the data using a windows service, there are listeners for invdata out there that wil use it to do various things such as updating a database, etc.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the point is I don't care (as a the aardwolf client) what is done to the data. I just put it out there for some object that may be interested.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that relieves the client of the responsibility of processing the data
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i suppose it was naive of me to hope there was some much command like "pingwebsite (URL VARS)" :P
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can do that, but the problem is that the client will connect to it as if it were a mud server so you have to act accordingly.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: but if you use the higher level COM object connection, then the client doesn't care what's on the other side.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: if you can convince a website to connect to aardmush you will be in great shape, but I have a feeling that the website will have to be a server in fact.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it is an interesting idea :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wait when is a website not a server? :p
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: does it have to be a connection though vs literally just pinging a site with some GET vars once?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It could be argued the website is the data, not the server providing it
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I mean a sever that is understood by the client.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can we not call it 'pinging', which is something else entirely?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i've set up a mob database on a server and used a querystring to serve up a page of data.  its neat
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: sure, you can do that. That is going out not in.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the problem is when you want to query the world for data you have to look like a real server, unless you want to write scripts to deal with the website (*srun)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I am talking about mush (or cmud) connecting on some tcp/ip channel and communicating with the website. The one limiting factor is that you can't influence how the client is going to talk to the website. The protocol is already in place.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i used http.request and did a loadstring of the page returned which was formatted as a lua table
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: couldn't you teach a script what do to with it?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's pretty clever, Endymion
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can script it but then you don't need a website at the other end you can just use some API. cmud is nice for that reason, it is a client and a server so you can use it at both ends of the conversation.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah but then you're stuck using cmud
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: everything you use in cmud is exposed to the .NET framework.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heheh
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: again with this windows
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Omerye frown
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Umm - that sounds like you'll get in trouble.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: cmud is very seductive that way, once you go out into the 'real world' and start writng applications to interact with the client, there is no limit :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: cmud doesn't have a way of writing plugins, but you can write an application that does the same thing as a plug in since it will have access to all the cmud commands and functions.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: and all your data
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: dll?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yes, you scan load the cmud .dll and it exposes all its methods to you.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can load*
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: naughty cmud
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: there is one trick, you have to load cmud first, if you don't load cmud first the application will load a fresh copy that won't be the same one you will use when you finally load it.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: that sounds like it could get dangerous
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: and also if you are not loaded first you have to run the applidation with elevated privileges.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: no more dangerous than any other application :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: http://www.zuggsoft.com/zmud/comserve.htm
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if i switch to cmud, how will i bot gq's?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: from your smartphone
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that is for zmud, but the same applies to cmud. just replace any reference to zmud with cmud.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my phone is stupid
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: you can make it smarter than your phone
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: then you phone is allowed to be stupid
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: gn
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: if I were a bot writer I would use cmud simply because I could write an application with all the .NET (or win32) API to back me up. So I could do anything :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the point is that you can use the entire windows API space for your scripts.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: whoa, is this Botting 101?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Which for most uses is 1000% overkill
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: uh oh, cant trust a guy who says 1000%
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it must be good
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You didn't trust me before I said 1000% anyway :P
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I store much of my data that I don't need right away on the MS SQL Server, for instance. Wrote my own interface to cmud and it works like a charm. (Anyone who wants to use it let me know)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for botting? or can I use it for my pictures of old ladies?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I don't bot or approve of botting :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hey man,need a bot? Send me a tell, mine does who imm every 10 seconds, and then types help botting, and hides the output of both.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah me neither...
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan fails to hit the shift key and 8giggles at everyone.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh wrong social hah
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i tried using cmud with a .net proxy and it was garbage.  maybe its good without proxy
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, thanks for the info Vejan. I will be keeping an eye out :>
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: Yejan* :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: #butchered
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Vagin for a final typo
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol yes, please
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: Endymion, just werite your .net api make sure it adheres to the COM protocol and just connect to it with cmud's COM hooks. Piece of cake.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i'm just hack man, i dunno how to do dat :p
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: if you use the VS IDE, just mark it as COM visible and have it have a no parameter constructor.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: on the cmud side you have this string (for instance): $connStr = "sqlServer.Client"
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that is the string to connect to my sql server interface.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: then I do this: #VAR comsrv %comcreate( $connStr)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: and now the variable comsrv holds the COM object to my sql server. So from then on I do @comsrv.<methodname> paremters
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: on the .net side I have a namespace sql Server that has class named Client.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: Client's constructor has no parameters.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: by the way, you have to use #VAR to create a COM object, it's the only thing that understands COM.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What are the odds the other 7 people using cmud have this channel on?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: {Ping to aardwolf.com Min: 62ms Avg: 64ms Max: 66ms}
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I don't know, but there was a time when cmud ruled here :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: aardmush was it's death knell, though.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Zugg was its death knell, when he stopped developing it he pretty much signed the death certificate
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: but if those who used cmud then were as involved with scripting as the client allowed they would probably not have switch to mush. I started with mush before I switched.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: way back when
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: MOST folks who use a mud client are not scripters though, the majority just want to get online and play their game
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: true, personally I love to script :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes scripz is fun
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: agrEed
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: and the fact that zugg walked out on cmud didn't help it either.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: if you are here, zugg, stick it :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well first he pissed everyone off by abandoning zmud in favor of cmud, then he did the coup de grace by walking on that too
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: he used to play though I don't know what his player name wa.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, to be fair, cmud was a lot cleaner that zmud.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure, cleaner is great, but.. he sold a lifetime license to zmud, then decided to make the same damn thing again with a different name
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: had he stuck with it and added the cmud mapper he would have sold it by the 1000s.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Abandoning zMUD was inevitable. It was depricated, and he didn't have the tools needed to continue development on it. CMUD came along, and he left CMUD for another job that "paid the bills".
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: listen, I spent 3 years beta testing cmud and when we were finished he decided that as reward he was going to make use beta testers pay a fee to continue using cmud as production :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No one was thrilled with the $40 price, or whatever it was.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: not that much, 39.95
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Anaristos, so did I. It's why I got CMUD for free.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: so you are still using the 3.34Beta?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ... $39.95... $40... a nickel difference, someone call Canada because they want their Nickelback.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nope, using MUSH now after I converted all my scripts over.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, I believe in karma, zugg is going to find himself someday wishing he would have been a little more honest :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I just don't find it as easy to write for mush. I used Lua with cmud but somehow it doesn't work as well for me with mush. So I tried javascript, the same thing. Maybe I am just to set in my ways.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Whatever works for you, I'm too old to care about other people's software preferences anymore :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: There are some things that it was infinitely easier to write for in CMUD, for sure.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Actually, I'm just too old, period :/
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Preaching to the choir. Just turned 38 just over a week ago.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cap'n Gus Grimvald snorts.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's old to me. :p
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 38?? Damn kids, off my lawn, etc
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I mean 83. Damn dyslexia.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cap'n Gus Grimvald shakes his cane at you.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Grimvald acting like he's 105, but he's only 62.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I'll give mush another try (actually I do use mush with this char but I don't script on this side :))
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: it's not the years, it's the mileage :p
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: and the tire treads.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley is only 21 with 17 years of experience!
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: And the crippling debts
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I find, though, that having access to all the windows technologies for my scripts a bit like a kid in a candy store feels :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: WF, WCF, WPF, I script the sqlite .dll directly (wow, did I learn a lot with that), etc.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: speaking of...who was it that made the aarddevil?
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: wow, hosted in angelfire, brings back memories :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I'll have to look at it.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it was a separate program that talked with zmud via com iirc
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it says:  by Taboolaby Taboola whoever that is.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it might be worth taking a look then.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the angelfire page sez grafit
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, was Grafit.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: AardDevil brings back memories.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Back then, it was THE app to have.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: never heard of that player
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I am scared of it, I keep clicking and things keep happening :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: oh, I left the best part of using cmud out :)
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: using Lua (and windows 7) you could access the .net framework 3.5 so you could actually use things like Forms and WPF from cmud scripts. Unfortunately, it doesn't work on windows 10. The interface is broken.
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: there is beauty in Rosie O'Donnel :)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: mis!
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: win 7 home basic still better than 10?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: reliable rather
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: win 7 home basic need 231847 patches to be 'a bit reliable' :)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: needed*
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: just asking coz i have win 7 home basic, 8 Pro and 10
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: also office 2010 :p Im hoping MS will give a free upgrade to 2013 or 2016 :P
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I'm a bit biased against win7, since I HAD to work on it before the mentioned patches... it was nightmare
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: W10 has been perfectly reliable for me
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It has started off a lot better than w7 did imho
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yep... found both 8 and even better 10 really reliable from the release
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: only knock i get with win 10 is my laptop's startup time is slower than pc's for some reason
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: doesnt W10 have a spyware?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: laptop's ram/chip is better
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Nah, not on by default
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: from MS
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: takes my laptop 2 mins to show my login screen and pc less than 30 sec
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Takes about 8 seconds on mine... :S
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: W10 benchmarks your startup. Check task manager/startup tab to see
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: dillon, SDD DOES a BIG difference in boot time
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i've been having this issue for a while now
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: laptop came with win 7 and it loaded faster than 10 :p
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: bad registry entries or messed/corrupted registry have a big impact on boot
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how do o clear that?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: there are many tools you can find in google... 'win registry cleanup'... just be sure you make a system backup before using ANY of them
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: just another question
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: my laser scanner thingy is jammed and can not move, know what i can do to fix this
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: =h 8
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: how can I enable another trigger from in a trigger in MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: EnableTrigger() doesnt work
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: EnableTrigger("triggerNam", true) in lua
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: yes but I am trying to enable it from the trigger section of Client. not from an plugin file
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Then you need to "Send to:" to be Script
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you need to chance the 'send' to script, and modify the other commands accordingly
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: change*
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: If you mean the trigger you're trying to enable is also in the client not a plugin, you need to give the Trigger a "Label" and use the label in the EnableTrigger() call
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: okay I already did that. in the first trigger, I add EnableTrigger("trigger_label", true) as Send to: Script
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: but it does not enable the trigger_label labelled trigger
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: now it should work
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oh... you sure the trigger shoot ? add a 'Send("hello") in the first row
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: what does this return for you? --> \\\Note(EnableTrigger("trigger_label"))
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: says: 0
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Means it's working then
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: oh it worked.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: okay thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: means no_error
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: If it wasn't it'd return 30005 (trigger not found)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Okay I got it. Thank you!
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: how do you increase the size of the scrollback buffer in mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: vialua.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: also, I think there's a setting for that, but i'm not in front of a pc at the moment.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: fil/world properties (or alt-enter)/output
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: file*
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: bah, seriously thought I looked everywhere, except the place that made sense, thank you :D
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yer welcome :)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: Line  229: Element name must start with letter or underscore, but starts with "1" (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: if pcount<10 then
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: sounds like it's trying to parse xml
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: is your code in the cdata portion of the plugin?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if its in the <send> portion of an alias or trigger you might need to use &lt;
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: ^
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kOz2acstzuYMk5O746eru91z8Qsbg3zK
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: it worksed just a second ago. 
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: then you modified it?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: yes but.. 
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: p.s. line 229 is prolly  not actually line 229
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and by prolly i mean totally
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: this is probably one of those crappy errors.. that takes many moons to avoid
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: post the xml, we'll find it in like 2 minutes or less.  or your money back
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea like endymion said, thats not the line the error is actually on
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: figure out what your offset is and its easy to locate
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think we're helping him steal passwords :O
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it looks like it
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You're accomplices now!
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i wanna take a plea deal
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ih077mkIHPAiWxei0Bp7axFGyI7HXYt4
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: youre missing <![CDATA[ and ]]>
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Need that CDATA section!
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: <script><![CDATA[ ... ]]></script>
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: ok. i see. so fn weird.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also you're deleting a timer but passing the function name instead of timer name DeleteTimer("stealPasswords")
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm i saw that wasnt there but assumed it would work without heh
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i think you need more whitespace too, not nearly enough blank space and empty lines
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: yeh. idunno. thanks. rewriting from a working one now
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion nods at Kobus.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so like when are you going to make it track damage?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: he tracking the damage after he steals passwords?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i have 7 free hours until nap
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i hope to make it track some before sleep
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: Endy, if yours is already working and interested to go on, there could be an option for tracking percentages instead raw damage
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: mine will be a joke anyway:)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: per centages of what?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: hp
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: Can someone help me with regexp?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dunno, guess this goes along with not understanding what exactly you are trying to show in the window
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: sure if its something I can help
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: I'm trying to make a generic trigger for failed spells cast.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: using spelltags?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: I can use perl regexp in Mudlet in linux.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: you can study Bast's and WinkleWinkle spellup plugins if its for mushclient
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: But I don't know how to 1) capture the lost spell name (with or without spaces), 2) how to send ie: cast '$*'
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: or you can tell what you are trying to catch with regexp and I try to create the pattern
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: I can do it individually with an ordinary trigger but I reckon that I will be getting lots of new spells once I remort
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: spelltags has all you would need.  e.g. {sfail}72,0,2,-1   (spell #72, 0=self, 2=already affected,-1=recovery(-1=none)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: definitely use tags spellups
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: I'm not sure what you mean.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: help spelltags
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: also help tags
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if its enabled, you get tags output from affon, affoff, sfail
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: even recovery on/off
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: and now i seem to have deleted all working versions except in a job computer 100km away
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: Will it over from your mind, Celebrity. :)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it does get pretty involved if you're looking to create triggers for spellups
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Valour comforts Useless Celebrity.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you still have the one on google drive dont you?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: its the dead version
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: all it needs is the CDATA tag beginning and ending
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: at what line nr?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: <script><![CDATA[ ... ]]></script>
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: replace your current <script> and </script> with those
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the dots are your code and whitespace
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: any good scripts for blowtorch?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: So if I get: {sfail}126,0,2,-1
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: How shall my send spell 126 to the client?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: c 126
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Send() SendNoEcho() Execute()
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: (%d)?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: well if its client trigger, than it should be %<bracket number>
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: LUA is a different matter. the results comes from the 3th parameter
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: so: ^Your inertial barrier dissipates.$
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua isn't an acronym
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: you should put a \ before the dot (.)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you're using mushclient, you're better off using one of the spellup scripts already available
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: Kobus, this works without cdata https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_CAAn75GNE526vG3PJBvA9zSuivcdpmB
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: otherwise there's plenty of reasons why a simple trigger just wont work well
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: not without using the other version of < and >
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: well I thing its a good struggle to learn the things about pattern but Endy is right. You should use an already created plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah its fun, just wont be very effective without lots of additional coding and trial/error
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: soz, haven't been paying attention
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: Anyone got time to check out how the Mudlet regex perl looks like?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: https://goodthing81.imgur.com/all/
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: I suck at regexp, haven't been programming for a long time and especially not in perl 'regex
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: the first pic lefthand and upmost is the mudlet trigger picture
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: https://i.imgur.com/ENh6sbc.png
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont know how mudlet works, and also you dont show the entire trigger
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you using Windows?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Bast's spellup plugin does not casts timeshifting automaticly. Is that problem only on my client or is there a general bug about the issue?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Am I the only one with the issue?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think you have to manually add it somehow
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I already added it to self cast spells but it seems it cannot cast it. 
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amora Tech: I keep getting chan ch channel name when not using aardmush, and I've had to uninstall aardmush because of updates gone horribly wrong, and am playing with vip for now. Anyone have any ideas to get rid of the chan ch?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Check out help tags.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: the CDATA thing. whats it for? i got my stupid plugin to work now but how the hell was it allowed to work or without the CDATA tag?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: stops the XML from parsing that area =P
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: it was a random error that the tag finally was required
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: so strange
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: damn these people. derailing their own topics
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: You are a Celebrity. You can mis all you want :D
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: What language are you talking about? Lua?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: its lua
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: in xml
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i thought it was LUA
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ill see what Lua is...
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua is not an acronym.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion grins evilly at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i was yelling it is all
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: Lua is a perfect name for a dog
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(o^-')b Kalathor Tech: they should make Lua into one of those acronyms where it stands for something to reference itself. I always get a chuckle out of those.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: well Cdata thing is a definitive that tells the xml it has some special data in it and do not parses it. Client runs the code inside CDATA tags using LUA's engine
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: see, i had the plugin good and runnin' without the tag.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(o^-')b Kalathor Tech: LUA could stand for LUA Usage Appreciated. Just my opinion.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: until a certain if then thing
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: well I don't think its important but its a xml standard. But it all comes down to the XML parser of the software that you are using. Not everyone (want to) follow what standards say
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I downloaded Lua. I am dissapointed that it doesnt have and IDE. It looks like a command line interface, infact.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: how do you download Lua?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: From their website
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: who's "they"?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Lua's. Dont tell me I downloaded the wrong one :)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Is there a IDE?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i have notepad++ thats good enough for lua
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: you can use Sublime Text, Notepad++ even good old notepad for it
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: How do I run a document in lua as script?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Is there a run() function?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: what the heck? I upgrade the mushclient and my virus scanner has a seizure and locks me out. 
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no language _has_ an IDE
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: remove the scanner
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I mean is there an official IDE.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Chevalier: no language has an official IDE
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: like Turbo Pascal?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: or Turbo Basic
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: DmntdDuergar: what do you mean "locks you out"?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(o^-')b Kalathor Tech: I highly doubt that Fiendish has studied every programming language to exist to make a statement of such breadth.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: DmntdDuergar: Also, which virus scanner?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish understands what it means to define a language.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I mean that LUA should endorse one, make it preferred.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: AVG. It said it was sending it to the AVG labs for investigation and would unlock it in 209 minutes. I had to put an exception in there to allow me to override AVG stopping the file from running.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua isn't an acronym
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: no. you choose your own ide. its a free world
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 209 minutes is weirdly specific
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(o^-')b Kalathor Tech: LUA should stand for LUA Usage Appreciated, as I already suggested earlier.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: right? 209 is an odd number.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i heard that pi has something to do with odd numbers
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I like downloading packages, for example Microsoft Visual Studio Pro. I hate the troubles of putting together a compiler (or interpreter) with a code editor and debugger.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: was it the installer or a particular file in the package?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I got the particular file. Fastest download
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Chevalier: so use vscode and add Lua extensions
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ok.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: C doesn't have an IDE, Go doesn't have an IDE, Ruby doesn't have an IDE, Python doesn't have an IDE, Javascript doesn't have an IDE... They're just languages. IDEs may or may not be built to support them.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: what are you after, syntax highlighting and linting? If it's plugin development downloading Lua's not going to do much for you, is it?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: won't be able to run/debug a plguin through your ide, afaik?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(o^-')b Kalathor Tech: I use a language that has an IDE Fiendish. We can quibble about the difference between the language specification and all that, but you can't run it outside of the official IDE.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Daak: correct
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kalathor: what language is that?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier is interested too.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: DmntdDuergar: ?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: DmntdDuergar: did it stop the installer or a particular file inside the package?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: IDE's only integrate the compilers/interpreter/debugger of the language tightly that's all.. I can write php/ruby/node/go in anything and run it into the interpereter in a variety of ways, through an IDE or otherwise
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Compilers have their own preferences though
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: so it's stopped happening in the past few days, but my mushclient was crashing every time I was using copying text using control c or right click copy. Any idea why that might happen? Using the most recent version of mush. 
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Did you recently change your keyboard to a different one?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: nope, same laptop
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Or maybe he received a spam letter that he was cheating on his wife :P
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Sorry, way misc :)
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: did your system update?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: you mean since it stopped? yeah I think it did an update in the past couple days.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Maybe you were hacked by a fake update that emulated the real thing...
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah update on the 23rd. maybe that was it. 
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I dont know how MUSH authenticates updates to make sure they are the real thing, but everything is succeptible.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: er wait no, that was just safari. the last security update was 1/1/18 
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Is there an update log? Look in the subfolders of MUSH, and check wherever MUSH stores preferences, etc.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I fear I may have lost the core AARD plugins when moving mush between computers and updating. Is there a way to force an update/reinstall? RESETAARD doesn't seem to work so I suspect not being loaded is the reason my windows aren't showing up
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: what version of mac os?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: High Sierra has been getting a number of security updates recently. Sierra just got one yesterday I think.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: You could reinstall the whole MUSH client, Borthain; or delete all plugins and addons and reinstall them one by one.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: okay, so if it goes wonky again check for updates. thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Borthain: if you point the installer from my website at your mushclient directory it will re-add any missing files
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Backup first
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: What's strange is that this is a new install with just copying over WORLD and AARDWOLF.db So I wouldn't expect those issues, Fiendish
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Will try again though I guess!
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: How do you connect to this if your client is down? :O
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: telnet
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: aard page
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: they have a flash page
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ah
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: putty works too right?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: telnet is www.aardmud.org port 7777
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Looks like my issue is that all the utility plugins no longer installed..nor any of my main plugins. Guess just have to go through and manually install
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ah. Borthain
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: check the bottom of your world file to see if it's trying to load by relative path or specific paths
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's a list of plugins at the end of your world file. it will work with either relative or absolute paths to plugin files, but they really should be relative paths for this reason
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Da_GQzUstgpX9x9jqEhVtbfrkJR6GJvX
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tCIhEw7qliQ0LO8pVte34mXgoSlMjou0
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: 3 tps to solve this damn issue
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: What is it
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what issue
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: it doesnt delete the timer
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: when it gets over 10
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Did you restart it?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: many, many times
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: What timer are you talking about?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: passwordSteal
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not fixing any plugin that says it's stealing passwords
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: its a damage tracking plugin.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: well. it should be one one
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: now*
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Whats this you posted on drive?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: png from the code. xml as the plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: So, it allows me to see the code?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: don't get excited about that password stealing bit. 
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: there is the full plugin code in the 2nd link
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ill take a look
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you pay TPs yet?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: nope
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i said this like 2 hours ago: [24 Jan 16:19:17] Endymion Tech: also you're deleting a timer but passing the function name instead of timer name DeleteTimer("stealPasswords")
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: hm. i actually revisited that comment 5 minutes ago
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 2s
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: wait. let me see.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm it seems you updated it, was there another issue?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you do realize, also, that only Damage 5 will work and it wont work for spells - only skills
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: oh crap
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: thats bad news.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: AddTimer ("passwordSteal", 0, 0, 0.4, "",  timer_flag.Enabled, "stealPasswords" )
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: why are we talking about a password stealing addon?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: the 1st is the name of the timer. the second is the function name. in the function, if pcount gets over 10(which works) the timer should be deleted. but doesn't
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: no. a damage tracker
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: so why is it called stealPassword?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: to get attention
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: here's my take on a "damage graph".  i didnt put buttons on it, but i can fwd/rev it with commands. the (1997) is how many 3 second periods are in the history.   https://www.dropbox.com/s/z6nmr52qr719zsi/damage_bar_graph.PNG?dl=0
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: oh its a png.
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i also started putting all combat damage into a database, might be able to get some useful reports out of it someday
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but its gonna be a huge database pretty soon heh
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: you rock
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: im still at the logo thing with mine
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there a setting in mush to turn on the countdown timer till tick?  i know i used to have it before so i knew when to sleep, but for a long time its been gone
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Add the Aardwolf_Tick_Timer plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: beat me to it
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: who has that one hosted?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Should come with mushclient
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: wierd mine doesnt have it
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: new mush didn't include it for some reason
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ahh i did just redo my mush since my last aard.db got wrekt a while back
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: any chance its available for just a normal download?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hang on I'll toss it on Dropbox for you
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you had no backups?
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: unless you turn them off manually, your db backs up regularly
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8kkj06yoe0u19sl/Aardwolf_Tick_Timer.xml?dl=0
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: db, that is, not timer
T3/r7/2018-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: too awesome thanks!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: looking for help with the hp minibar
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: You can just explain your problem and maybe someone knows the solution
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: trying to make something similar to the hp bar, but for my armor. anyone have anything like that already made?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: and maybe hunger bar
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: do you mean the resists from your armour?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: is there a way to tell the mapper that all of my portals have moved inside a container?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: only if you used an alias for managing the portals
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and that, by changing the alias
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the mapper has no idea about containers
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: umm no, but if you'd use an alias from the start you'd only have to update that
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: yeah i mean the resists from my armor
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: my stat window seems to have broken
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: my stats aren't showing up on my stat bar...
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shilam Tech: i cant play from client, but i can play from website
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shilam Tech: it says my connection timed out
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: check your browser settings. you might have a proxy server set for the connection. the browser uses it, the client has no idea about it
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: are you behind a firewall ?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shilam Tech: now i have 4 people replying to me including from PM how do i reply to them lol
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 'tell <playername> whatever...'
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shilam Tech: btw i have heard of firewall in my computer, ill try to figure out what it is
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shilam Tech: Unable to connect to "Aardwolf", code = 10060 (Connection timed out)Error occurred during phase: Connecting to world: 23.111.136.202, port 23
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: try to change port to 4000
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: press CTRL+Enter there is IP address on the left side. click it then you will see the port text box which says 23
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: tech alt-enter
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: then change it to 4000 and try to reconnect
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: oh sorry it was ALT+Enter
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shilam Tech: it works thank you
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: nice one Valour !
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: you may not know how important luck is, but you know something about tech :P
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: You are welcome. Some ISP block the 23 port. It also happens with e-mails while adding an account to outlook
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Shilam, use the mushclient from the aard site... it has a lot of tools preinstalled
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shilam Tech: sure
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: i need help with the hp bars, if anyone is a mush genius
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: What you trying to do?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: my hp bar is not working properly
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: [string "Plugin: Aardwolf_Health_Bars"]:140: bad argument #5 to 'WindowCreate' (number expected, got nil)
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it's a problem connected to your mud prompt
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: how might i fix it? i thought it ran off of gmcp or whatever, not a prompt?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: did you changed or disabled your prompt ?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: try 'prompt all'
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: so it reads the prompt for the information?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: What's the plugin name, because the new one is gmcp
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: thought it received the information via gmcp. why is this happening to meee
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: aardwolf_health_bars?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: should be aard_health_bars_gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khadaji (
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: What version are you running? type: checkversion
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: r1956
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: even if my prompt changed why would it change anything if it takes the stat info from gmcp?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: acknowledge
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Run this what number do you have? \\\Note(GetPluginVariable(  "ef4a86dbc9cd4dd6f4c69385", "font_size" ))
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: 9
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Run this what number do you have? \\\Note(GetPluginVariable(  "ef4a86dbc9cd4dd6f4c69385", "graphicalMode" ))
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: 1
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: And for height? \\\Note(GetPluginVariable(  "ef4a86dbc9cd4dd6f4c69385", "height" ))
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: 24
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: annd sorry, the font was 8*
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Hmm, I dunno, you tried uninstall/reinstall on Health bars, or resetaard yet? Might be something wrong with the state file or something
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: "status bars will appear here once you start playing"
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: just did the reset aard
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: did you get the error?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: now no error, but still no stats
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khadaji Tech: shouldnt it grab from my prompt? or no?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: move a room or use some mana?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: odd problem but maybe someone has insight, as far as I can tell certain info messages are being gagged somehow on my client, levels, gq announcements and possibly a few others, info shows they are on, sometimes I get a blank line like something should be there but isn't, where would be a good place to start to look for a solution?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: client is newest version of mushclient, have aliases, a couple triggers, nothing really special
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is it the aardmush-client or stock mush?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: aardmush
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Isn't it supposed to have like a chat history up top, maybe some of the gag-triggers for that is messing up?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And there would have to be triggers for the gagging to occur I believe
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: ok looks like the aard_chat_echo is the culprit, if I disable it, I can see messages for a few seconds but the client auto reenables it
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Right click on the comm log.  There are options to turn off channels/have them echo in the main window.  Make sure it's selected.  BUT if you didn't turn them off for global/wars on last client, odd they would default to off.....
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: if I check the settings in the comm log window, every option is checked to echo to main window, I've disabled echo'ing then reenabled with no luck
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd submit that as an issue on fiendish's github, that man LOVES a bug report.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And I'm not joking :).
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there any way to reprogram the plugin that gives you visual meters for Health, Mana, Moves, TNL, Enemy HP and Alignment to use customized colours?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: rightclick the plugin bar
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Mapper somehow keeps screwing up the speedwalk to Nyne Woods. Anyone know why? Did the area move slightly? Is there a way to manually change the speedwalk to Nyne Woods to this stops happening?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: h
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Get the first room of the area, go somewhere else, type mapper where <roomid>
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: rt nyne, xset mark in the first room, xrt nyne from aylor to check if it fixed it
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not understanding the xset thing. Mapper xset does nothing.,
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Socialist Raded Tech: literally "xset mark"
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: xset is S&D
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: they are assuming you are using s&d
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OK then, I guess teh better question to start is.  What do you mean by screwing up?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Socialist Raded Tech: oh I didn't read anything but the last message
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What command are you typing?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and drop the mapper
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It is not running to Nyne and runs into a wall eventually. The speedwalks it generates differs wildly from the rt sw.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: mapper goto <room number> 
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: RT speedwalk will always or nearly always be different.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ok then, my advice is the correct one.  Type mapper where <room number>.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, the Mapper one ran into a "alas you cannot go that way" wall eventually and just stops.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Xset mark did NOT fix it.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: then figure out WHERE that path is going wrong.  That is the problem, fix it, by adding/removing/changing an exit.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Socialist Raded Tech: that typically means you have a bad portal entry or bad cexit somewhere
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But the speedwalk doesn't have a portal or cexit.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Socialist Raded Tech: you can do "mapper where (roomid)" and walk it manually to see where the mistake is
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: get the mapper to output the speedwalk it would use, then traverse it and find the broken step, typically a cexit
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes Raded, and my solution will help him figure out where that is.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It goes wrong somewhere in the Uncharted Oceans.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: find where it exactly goes wrong and fix that
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yuna type mapper where <room id> from recall.  Type the first direction it gives you?  Did it work?  GOOD, type it again.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: REPEAT until you find the exit that doesn't work.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Edit the room exits in THAT room so it works then start again.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, it's somewhere around the 25th n: run 8s2e2s3wn13w28n(2se3s). Which is weird because it contains 28n2s.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Socialist Raded Tech: walk through it manually
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Somewhere is too vague. You need the EXACT room
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I did. It's at the 25th north.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, it's run 8s2e2s3wn13w24n
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OK.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Go to that room.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Look at your mapper exits in the mapper.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: One of them is wrong.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sorry, 27th apparently.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then go to that room. Find the error and fix mapper exits
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm there now. Now how do I fix the exit?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, it wants me to go north when there's no north. How can I figure out what the proper sw from there is?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Don't
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just remove hte north exit if it doesn't work.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Right click on the room in the graphical map dispaly.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I do that?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: on the minimap right click on the North exit and delete it
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm in the Uncharted Ocean. There is no mini-map, just a huge map super zoomed-out. And no way to zoom in.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (Well, it IS a mini-map, it's just super-zoomed out).
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: not the mud minimap.  It's the graphical clickable one.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And yes the exits must have changed, because my mapper is trying north from your room too.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, OK. How do I remove exits? Right-clicking doesn't give any such option. And left clicking does nothing.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right click on mapper room and "delete exit"
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The window looks like this: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCP-driven-world-mapper
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Do you not have a window that looks like the firs tpicture on that page?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah, that's the one that shows a super-zoomed out picture of the entire continent because I'm in the middle of the Uncharted Oceans.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I even tried resizing the window to cover my entire screen and it wasn't enough to allow to right-click any exits.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can click on the room too....try zooming in.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can't. Because it'
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can't. Because it's a continent map and not an area map. No way to zoom in.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh wait. I tried hide bigmap. That worked.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: All set now?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No. Now it's running into another wall in the Uncharted Oceans. I even redid xset mark. Ugh. So annoying.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: XSet mark is not your issue.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: check each step in the speedwalk and correct if needed
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Repeat the process.  Find where it's messing up the path, remove the exit.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: mapper goto <roomidinnyne>
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: why not use rt nyne then mapper from there?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: does that break your bot?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In a random room that isn't the entrance of Nyne?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Because that won't help you figure out where the mapper plugin is going wrong on teh path.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: who cares if rt works...
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because I'd rather save the extra step?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: heh yuna
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There seems to have been a bunch of walls added to prevent you from accidentally running into nynewoods, just walk around and remove those exits as needed using the same process you just did.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Allright I'm out!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite looks at Summoner Yuna and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: just purge the zone
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: then runto nyne from recall.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: which clan changed exits on us?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just so I can update my map?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I purge the zone?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No clan. Walls added to uncharted ocean apparently?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: mapper areas, then mapper purgezone name
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite explains to Summoner Yuna how to bot. Settings -> click on triggers -> autopilot on.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, I 'xrt nyne' and it takes me there in 4 steps
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: takes me in 2 :P
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Finally. Got rid off another wall and Mapper works now.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, not everyone can hax0r like you, redwood ;)
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: (K)(M)(G)(H) Chaos Portal: [The Nyne Woods] (1)
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: BOT
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling gasps at Pheal My Redwood's actions, uttering "Oh My Bot!"
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Also, Yuna, what version of S&D are you running?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you check what version you're using?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if it's up to date, it displays the version in the window title bar
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, thenb it's not up to date if by "window t itle bar" you mean the little window called Search & Destroy GUI.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if it's not up to date, I advise updating because the older versions are fairly glitchy and the updated version fixes a lot of that, and adds some new stuff too.  Check the link in my desc.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If the latest version was released in October, then I have the latest version because I downloaded it in December.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Unless I didn't download it from github and somehow found a really old version... I guess.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: seeing how lost you seem to be about it, I honestly don't put it past you >.>
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm.... my files all end with _2 and not v1.3.3... I'll update. So I just need to import the new versions over the old ones?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I update the plugins? Just delete the old and add  the new? Or add the new over the old ones? Just choosing Add for one of the new ones without removing the old version resulted in a failure message.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there any way to customize the colours of the bars in the MUSH Health Bar plugin?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah. Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: right-clik anywhere outside batùrs
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: sorry wrong channel, you got it I guess
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I tried right-clicking it and nothing happened. Must've right-clicked one of the bars.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yep... right click in a 'black' portion of the window :)
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: Testing...
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Running....
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: Ok so I downloaded the zip file for Aardwolf, what do I do now?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Why did you get the zip file instead of the installer?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: For the installer, I have to type in the password of the device, and what if I dont know the password, like maybe I want to play this at some BestBuy computer
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: In other words, you're on an admin-restricted system, so unless you're the admin, you can't install anything. Got it.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: move files and ise a flash drive
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: Huh? 
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you got the zip, just unzip everything to where you want to play from.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Install to a flash drive for portability.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: How do I unzip? 
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: flash drives work but they normally dont let us use them
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Right-click it, and see if you can extract the files.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: Ok I press extract all and the green bar is done
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: What do I do now?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Open up the folder you extracted to, and then run MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: try opening mush
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: It worked!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: Oh this client looks old
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: it will probably be deleted ehen youncome back
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: Oh im on MY computer right now
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: computers reset sometimes when not active. they restore the system except for certain disks
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: hou m8ght get lucky
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Crimzon doesn't know what he's talking about. Pay no attention to him.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: nod
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabulously Frenchy Tech: ok... so when i load mush, none of my gmcp plugins initialize... "protocl gmcp" shows everything off.... wassup with that?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you get any error messages in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabulously Frenchy Tech: none
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version are you using? (Type 'checkversion')
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabulously Frenchy Tech: (this is koopa remoted in to frenchy's machine btw... shes here too)
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabulously Frenchy Tech: r1956
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am r1956
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are the GMCP plugins enabled in the plugin manager?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabulously Frenchy Tech: i literally just downloaded it
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabulously Frenchy Tech: yea
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabulously Frenchy Tech: im going to try and load with a frech mcl
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: Is there an existing auto-wear gear upon level script out there?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: is that even legal?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Socialist Raded Tech: there are a couple but they're super labor intensive, even with a plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: the plugin in my finger will generate equipment sets on the fly and wear them for you, but you'd need to add a trigger when you level to tell the plugin to wear the eq
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's a great plugin, actually. Worth installing.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Socialist Raded Tech: I did a spreadsheet and made triggers one at a time to wear everything/put everything back into bags :p
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Socialist Raded Tech: reason number 83 why I won't redo.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you kids and your plugins! Back in my day... we made aliases for that =P
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec is agreeing with that Socialist Raded person again...
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or used keywords on our clan sets :)
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: wansn't gonna rub that in their faces Menda... but yeah, what he said =P
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: A quick explanation of what Durel's plugin does: It goes through all your equipment (except those you have ignored) and generates a set of equipment that best maximizes your priorities. So if you want to prioritize certain stats, it'll pick the ones that will max out your stats first. Or you can create sets based on resists, etc.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: +1000 for Durel's inventory plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can ignore slots, too, so if you REALLY want to keep a hold on your hold item, it'll ignore trying to replace it with something better.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That plugin is pure genius. That's all I'm going to say.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: Will prob make my own, thanks all
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You're missing out then. :p
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley has a few different priorities, and is working on one for PVP.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Then why'd ya ask? Gonna hollow out Durel's plugin?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Good luck with that. The plugin itself spans 20k+ lines.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: does it just start at 1 slot and work way down picking out "max" for preferred stats, then fill with whatever is highest score?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It does a complete analysis to see what sets work best together to maximize based on your priorities.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: It uses a simulated annealing algorithm to search through possible combinations and then checking the total set score after each iteration
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like what if you prefer Int and by the 10th slot you are maxed, but one of those previous slots could have been a high DR item and an int slot later on?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: See Durel's answer.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: That wouldn't be an issue.  No slot is preferred over any other in the analysis
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Durel, did you fix the windows bugs? I hadn't heard anything
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: though that might have been me dropping off
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: With the ability to add several different priorities, you could write one for each and every class, and you can make one purely for PVP.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: I was never able to reproduce your issue Yajan, but lots of people are using it without having that issue
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's the issue?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hehe ok
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol which one was it now?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I was having some crashing issues I think
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's probably gone through several versions since you last played with it, Yajan.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: That was back in the very early days though and I changed a lot of the init code.  It may have been related to some race conditions I fixed in the init code
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: kk, how do I get the newest version?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Finger Durel?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I still have an installer alias I believe
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: dinv version update confirm?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Also has an automatc updater when you run the version update confirm.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: You can run "dinv version check" to see what has been added and "dinv version upgrade confirm" to grab the latest
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh, upgrade not update. Doh.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No, it's update.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: oops, no it's update
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: no output on dinv build now? or?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: needs to be dinv build confirm
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I know, it's running I guess?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but there's no output
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and it removed my blank lines
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Was very verbose when I ran it
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan /
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan :/ even
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: You probably have it in "light" notify mode.  Run "dinv notify standard" to see more messages
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh yeah
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: guess that was still saved
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cool it's running
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm excited to get this running
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Take the time to learn the features, you won't regret it
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan sends ParaLogiki Daak across the dance floor.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: By the way, thanks Yajan for helping with the early dinv debugging.  You and Crowley were my two alpha testers and it was a huge help!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my pleasure! was fun to help you get some early data/bugs ironed out
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Of course. :)
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what does "full identify" show that regular doesnt?  resists?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: area of origin.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: yeah, resists
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: area comes from lore
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you want to use regular on an item, then pass it to me, I'll pastebin what it looks like. I have the identify wish.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: which regular identify doesnt provide, but full identify does - neh?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can just sit at Hester and id everything there.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: was just curious about the wishlist for dinv
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: run 2s4e2n from recall, and identify from there. you will be charged a small fee, but your identify will work as if you have the wish
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: OMG, Myth talks!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley says "Congrats!" to # Burning Myth, but HAHAHAHA # Burning Myth HAS DC'D!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: invdetails shows resists, so not sure how area of origin would help anything
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I thought he delt in 1s and 0s while dashing through GQs!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Fatal FrostBite.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if you want to get another one, origin helps
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if you have a thing, and want to know where it came from, lore is faster than a website?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im just asking in reference to the dinv plugin
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Identify shows area, too. Full identify, anyway.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: From the perspective of dinv, not having the identify wish will mainly just mean resists aren't included
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so you're using "identify" to get item stats? instead of invdetails?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Yes, identify is used
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I see why there's no shortage of code for that plugin =P
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cause invdetails shows for example: {resistmod}All magic|20
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: A lot of it is help file/notation. :p
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Ah, interesting.  I thought invdetails had the same contents as identify but just in a different format
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: dinv parses the identify output though so it can also compare things on auction or in shops, etc.  Maybe I should look at supporting invdetails at some point too
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah good point about auctions
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Yeah, the "dinv covet" mode will look at auctions or things on the market and tell you if you would use that item and if so, at what levels.  It's handy to know if an auction item would be useful
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont want to try and even suggest anything, because your code is leet
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can always suggest things. I did.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but maybe even a procedure to use invdetails to add resists would be icing on top
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Can always keep the identify code for covet, but change to invdetails for databasing.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Yep, that makes sense.  It already checks if you have the identify wish so it could toggle over to invdetails in that situation if necessary.  I'll add it to the wishlist at some point
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Sorry, just came in - does invdetails give resists if you have identify wish?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i get it without the wish
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: invdetails shows resists with or without the identify wish but regular identify won't show resists unless you have the wish.  I need to dig into that a bit more and maybe add support for invdetails
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh wait...
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Not showing on mine. Hmm
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: does it only do that for worn eq? tried item in inv and it doesnt
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Ooooh
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oopsie
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Oh, that's interesting.  I could have sworn I looked at invdetails when I started this ages ago and it didn't have resists.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: I thought I must have bungled it based on Endy's data
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I blame endy too
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah my apologies, i checked an item that was worn
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: my invdetails on some skinned boots does not show resists.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: inv or worn.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's based on owned items...
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now that makes even more sense hah
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it was an epic item heh
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Endymion spreading #FAKENEWS since 2018!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Ok, the good news is that I don't feel quite so foolish :p  The bad news is that adding invdetails support probably won't help
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: indeed x2
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Good news is you don't have to write that code then!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Heh, I already re-wrote it about a dozen times so one more wouldn't hurt (much)
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im "that guy" basing a theory off of 1 piece of data.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: In my first version I didn't even know that invmon and invdetails existed.  Ouch. :p
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: data? from star trek?
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That type of bullet doesn't kill, so you can shoot people with it. -- *BAM* *ded* -- Oh, well, I guess I should have mentioned I shot the leg... and it just grazed it.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: superficial wounds
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 'Tis a scratch.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 'Tis a flesh wound.
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: tis a dead body!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: YOUR LEG IS MISSING!
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: only enchanter can do it 1x for free, anyone can pay 3tp do to it endlessly
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: derp
T3/r7/2018-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Love & Wars Tech: Did justhost buy out ehost or something?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: does mapper can use my clients alias as portal command?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: can mapper use my clients alias as portal command?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: sorry for my bad language
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: despite your language is bad
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: | 133 | zyian      | A Small Dirt Path    |   726 | xp_pt 821682815      | 108 |
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xp_pt is client-side alias
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: oh then it uses Execute() function. Okay thank you
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Is it possible to create table variables in client's variable section?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think so: just local Saveables = {}
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are different variables...the client's Variable section is for MUSHclient variables, not Lua variables...i.e. SetVariable()/GetVariable() vs foo = {}
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I was talking about the variables section of the Client's configuration window
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think it is better to write a plugin with your aliases
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: oh so I need to write it as serialized to make it work
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: foo = {} only exists within the scope of a particular Lua script, and when you want to write those variables to a file, you must "serialize" them into a normal string
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Valour.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I am wondering why you just don't keep the variables in your script file.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: does the "mapper portal <command>" account for tiers?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, it is aware of tiers
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: because my friends client can't run some scripts because of a software of his company
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: but if you have a file with lua code you can have the lua globals right in the same file.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: even if you have to address _G
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: which you won't
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: you are talking about defining a lua file in script section of client
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can think of the lua globals as being in their own name space. Everytime much executes a lua script that namespace is accessible. It is persistent.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yes, I am.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: That is great! I will use that then
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: just put a url in the box.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you should keep all your lua scripts in one big giant script file. Jut make sure you are tidy about it :)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: when you modify the file with an editor, mush detects it and reloads it.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: So I can reach "myVar" variable in the lua file from an alias in the client just by typing "myVar"
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, now you have to load the mush variables into your script, that you can't avoid.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you use world.GetVariable and world.SetVariable for that.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can set the environment in mush via the mush varibles then load the values into your script, once you do that you don't have to bother with them again unless you are going to update them
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: for most other scenarios you will be sending the stuff directly to the mud.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient variables are wholly separate from Lua variables...that's why you'll often see plugins containing code like MyVarName = GetVariable("MyVarNAme") in the OnPluginEnable section (and SetVariable("MyVarName",MyVarName) in the OnPluginSaveState section
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: hmm you lost me there. If I define the "myVar" variable in a lua file, I can reach that variable in a client's alias just by typing "myVar"? or do I have to use GetVariable() SetVariable() ?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's in Lua file as myVar = foo, then it's only available to Lua, not as @myVar
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you do both, you set the lua variable in Lua: myvar = "hello", world.SetVariable("MyVar", "hello")
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have to get/set in both places to use in both ways
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Oh I got it. Its no different than a script saved variables.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: thank you for the info
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to stick with using just the ones from the Variables window, then in Lua you'd have to always use GetVariable() rather than just myVar
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: to avoid hassle you just set the environment in mush and the load the values into your mush script as part of the initialization, when your script feels the outside world needs a value it does a world.SetVariable
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it is really no big deal, you can live comfortably doing myvar = world.GetVariable("MyVar") as often as needed.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: take a look at some of the code in the plugin scripts so you can get an idea how it is done.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I got it now. Thank you!
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: here is a speedwalk parser for you: https://pastebin.com/LBe7emsk
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: oh nice I will check it!
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: there is some sparse lpeg documentation online
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I figured how to use it by reading up on context free grammars and adding much b.s.t :)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, actually parsing expression grammars.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What fresh Hell is this? Now Mapper can't goto Glamdursil. It's not even running into any walls, it just ends up in the middle of the ocean again. What were the commands for deleting a mapper speedwalk and adding it again?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: mapper speedwalks are not added by you, but generated by the mapper, so you can't delete them. check the generated speedwalk, see where it fails
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It cannot tell where it fails because it doesn't actually run into any walls. It just ends up somewhere in the middle of nowhere and as I don't know the entire world map of Aardwolf by heart, I can't tell wher it's supposed to go from there.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, yesterday, I'm pretty sure someone told me it was possible to delete a mapper speedwalk somehow.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's... odd... depending on what room in Glamdursil I tell mapper to goto, it'll use different speedwalks, despite the fact that all rooms in Glamdursil passes through a specific room.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: yuna, you can walk the speedwalk, by getting the mapper to output the path instead of running it automatically, then delete the broken steps, rinse and repeat
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: when I think that depends more where you're located when you generate the speedwalk. also, check for portal failures - such failures tend to land you randomly on the map. portal failures come either from inability to use the portal, or from trying to use the portal in a noportal room (the aard hotel is a noportal room)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: (- the initial when*)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: you might also try deleting the oceans and rerunning them, they seem to be a recurring point of failure
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yuna: the mapper doesn't store any speedwalks, so there's nothing to delete...it only stored individual room exits, and it generates speedwalks as you request them...go to recall, then type "mapper where #####" where ##### is a room number. That will tell you what the mapper thinks it's supposed to do
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you follow that path to see where you think it's getting confused, and you can delete any errant exits, cexits, or portals
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Again, Abelinc, one of the paths it uses doesn't run into any walls. It just stops in the middle of nowhere.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: have you checked the path generated by it?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes. It just ended up in the middle of nowhere. What's weird is that there's 2 paths depending on which room I ask it to goto. The other one ran into walls, so I'll backtrace that one manually and change the exits.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: not where it takes you. the steps in that path
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: each part of it. including the portals, if any
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes. I did.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and non of them failed?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No portals or cexits.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: none*
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: did it go through any clan areas?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'll check that next.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This is... strange. Mapper claims there's 2 different rooms called The Inn on the Trail in Glamdursil, with 2 wildly different room numbers.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, one of them goes through Bard.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: remap that clan area
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's the one that ends up in the middle of nowhere.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But it doesn't run into any walls...
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It enter sand exits Bard just fine. How can I remap it properly?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it might work just fine, but it also might take you to a whole different area than initially mapped
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: clans do sometimes change clan exits
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, but how can I remap it if the plugin won't let me manually set speedwalks?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So the speedwalk starts wuwu. I'm at wu now. West brings me Under the Waves in Coral Kingdom. So... how do I change this somehow?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: check: mapper help utils
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Are you saying to purge the room/zone?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Room or zone?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If you can identify which room is causing the issue, just delete the room
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yes :) it doesn't matter: room if you really know what to remove, zone if you don't
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: or if can narrow it down, delete the suspect rooms and then re-map them
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it's not like public clan halls are huge areas to remap
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Mapper purgeroom does nothing. Or... it doesn't give me any response.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does it purge anyway, just without telling me?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yay. One of the speedwalks works now. Presumably due to the ninja purge.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The other works too. Both fixed themselves. And they start the same now. Strangely, before this, they generated wildly different SWs despite the fact that one of the rooms was just 1 north of the other.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks for the help, guys.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno why you see "doesn't run into any walls" as being any sort of validation that it hasn't taken a wrong turn...with continents, you can almost invariably enter a ton of random directions and not run into any walls...
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you shouldn't need to purge zones or rooms, you can just delete errant exits
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the exits that the mapper has for the room, and match that up to "exits" output when in the room...if any are wrong, get rid of those
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's not what I said. I said that ONE of them ran into walls. The OTHER didn't. I started with the one that didn't run into walls to see what was wrong but didn't pay attention to the fact that it went through Bard.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The one that went to Bard ran smoothly all the way, it just got confused due to Bard changing their exits, I'm assuming.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is what you said, though, as if the one which didn't run into walls means anything...
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the other one running into walls is a happenstance
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both had the affect that "I didn't get where I thought I should"...running into walls is irrelevant
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And I didn't say it didnt't take a wrong turn. I said I couldn't figure out WHERE it went wrong.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (Or how)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's why I told you to use "mapper where" to know what path it is taking...from there you need to WALK the path
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And I told you I did. Only, my 1st run through, I didn't make note that it went through Bard.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if a clan changed an exit, then it would be very obvious that the exits in the clanexit room aren't correct when you look at the exits that the mapper has for that room
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The 2nd time, I noticed that and purging that room fixed the problem.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No it isn't. Mapper shows 4 exits. And all 6 exits still exist. At least one of them just doesn't go to where it was originally supposed to. Or did you mean to manually check each room and each exit using "mapper where" (which apparently isn't a command)?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (as in a command on its own, you need the room ID, in which case, how would that help me with exits?)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if you click on the "*" on the mapper window, you can toggle the "Show room ID" option. that will show you the current room id in that window
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "mapper thisroom" will give you lots of info about the room you're in, including the destination of the exits that the mapper has for that room
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would verify that those exits are the same as "exits" command shows you
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I verify that using exits? The mapper thisroom command only gives me the room numbers.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Don't I have to walk to the next room and mapper thisroom that one and compare room ids?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "exits" command gives you room names...how do you normally find out a room number from a room name?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I mean, you get the same results, only one is faster since you can just reuse the same command by hitting enter after using the numpad to walk
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you can always just step into each one to verify...a bit more walking around, but you're right that it's less typing
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I think I prefer the walk and thisroom method, but that's me. So... let's say I find another exit that doesn't lead to where it should, but there's still an exit. I assume that I should then delete it from mapper and then walk through it?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alrighty. Thanks for all of the help!
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have 2 features in my client's mapper that help with this, I'll suggest both to Fiendish...(1) my "find" feature lets me put in a room number to get the name and area...(2) I have a listexits command which gives the number and the room name
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: is there a reason S&D's hyperlinks/clicks don't work during a GQ?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by design
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: as to how they usually work during CPs?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: Aardside or S&D wise?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: elaborate... Please?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it lets you pretend that you're actually doing a tiny bit of work
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there won't be public version of GQ enabled S&D
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than letting your client do the GQ for you
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it has been designed as to NOT work for gqs
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Presumably, it's also because in normal campaigns, you're not competing against other people and finishing it slightly faster won't give you any extra rewards.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: so there are private versions of SD that are clickable during GQs?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I'm not sure whether they are clickable
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, people always have private souped-up versions of damn-near-cheat tools for anything competitive
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically you can do: xrt <area>, qw <mob>, go 1, kill
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: do you have one, Abe<.<
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use MUSHclient
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: but do you have one
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just "gq hist" those below 4 minutes use some kind of GQ helper
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: see my qualm is they told me to get TP Portals to become a proficient GQer. So I got TP portals. They they then told me to get S&D, welp got that too. Now I hear about private clickable-S&Ders and I'm like WTF
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is bad idea to get TPortals for GQ
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: why
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clicking slows you down, BTW, your hands should never leave the keyboard
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I never bought a tportal. and I only have snd, with the default mapper extender
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it costs 15 TPS to buy trivia portal, even at 80qps / TP it is 1200 QPs, and even if that TP allows you to win GQ - then you earn 20 qps extra, so you need to *win* 60 GQ thanks to that TPortal just to cover its costs
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trivia portals can help a great deal during GQs, it just takes quite a while for them to ROI to pay themselves
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the only thing snd helps me with, for a gq, is having the list of targets permanently shown on screen
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: Liber how have you never failed a quest?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: nope
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'm broken that way :)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: okay so just so its clear, there ARE in fact clickable-S&Ders out there?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clicking S&D would be slower than non-clicking S&D
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am not sure, is S&D clickable? (I just use keyboard)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: if you study the s&d code you to can make yours clickable
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: GQs are not very different from CPs, so if there is clickable S&D for CPs then no problem to add GQ support
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'll side with abelinc on this one. I don't even click for cps
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you just need either join clan that has such scripts or befriend with some scripter
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: Liber, you're an anamoly
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: basically, the only function for that window is to inform me of my status
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: no, I just type fast
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but regardless of clickability, there are GQ-enabled S&D versions...iirc required tweaking 2 lines of the script for the winkle version, no clue on Starlings, as they've made lots of changes
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: one reason I can't really play on the phone
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: even Daeric has failed a quest before. You are an anamoly
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'm not the only player with zero failures. I know of at least one more :)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daeric has also done 135k quests, vs 6k ;-)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I mean, Liber, is this your first character on Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: hel no it isnt
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: this is really ontopic for "tech" :)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That explains it, then. (That's what I thought) Liber started a new character with all of the knowledge of AQ, portals and areas from before.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: not* ontopic
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: 2 tiers in 2 years + 500 GQ wins is not a first char
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that one year and a smidge. still offtopic :)
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: okay back on topic. What do you type on the keypad during GQ
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start with "ww help"
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: huh, I didnt even know that that was a thing
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i put the Note('blabla') to the script. but the line 'Reinstalled plugin graphdamtracker (b1ed1f045a002e2433e45571)' came after the note?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: why a script error wants to open the mush notepad?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So you can fix it.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: im not using it. how to disable it?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can change it to the editor of your choice by going to Script configuration.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: eh. it needs to open something. cant disable it
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: What triggers should I do?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: None, unless you identify a need.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Actolyn Tech: Maybe for drinking a heal potion?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: no nesting if's in Lua?
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Looking to order a new keyboard for my laptop, its a dell, but what else do I need to know, and where do I find that info
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you have to ask that, are you sure you're capable of replacing it? Laptop keyboard replacements can be tricky, depending on the model.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: just google make and model
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: service tag
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: My last laptop the keyboard died (the WASD keys got wore out, of course *grumble*) and I googled how to replace it, then shrugged and used velcro tape to secure a regular usb keyboard to the laptop and used that instead.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec reins his horse next to Birdbrain Metria and salutes him with his lance.
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I am quite sure I can unscrew screws and unplug ribbon cables, I just don't know what exactly I need to search for. l
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: my keyboard works just fine, the texture of the keys is just worn off including the home row keys with the bumps on them
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i set trigger based on who stands on pedestal
T3/r7/2018-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mis :p
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throxx Tech: ok, how do i make a kil alias  in mush, i can do it in blowtorch
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: I started playing with the new gmcpconfig options and I'm not seeing the behavior I expected.  If I use sendgmcp to set an option, I can read it back and it is what I expect.  However, if I don't set an option and try to read the current state, it returns an empty result.  It's almost like I just reading values cached in the gmcp helper instead of reading from the mud.  Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: is it doable to point in a variable to a variable without scripting in mush(like from the graphical menu)
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: oh. wait.. what do you mean?:)
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I mean, if I want to create an alias that switches my eq faster, can I point to a variable which contains all the other variable names where the IDs are saved?
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: and loop it through somehow
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: that seems to need a bit of scripting. but you can just use the alias window and send to: script
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: its not too hard to figure out. no external scripts required then
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I think I have to look into the documentation of mush...
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ty
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: its so worth the trouble. for later stuff also
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: probably...but I'm not into lua anyway and other languages have issues as I read
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i am a total newb and found lua to be the simplest of them all
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Have tou tried them all?
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: well. not total anymore:)
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Celebrity whammied !!!
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i tried java, javascript, c-something, basic, pascal.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: np, I know something about python, but python has issues as I read, that's why I don't even try to code in python and try that
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Every language has 'issues'
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: English has issues
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: probably
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal my Redwood Tech: english is retarded.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: English is an evolving language.....Damn Twitter.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It could be worse. It could be Oreganese.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: c for me was such a pain. all kinds of errors and weird rules. all i wanted was a prime number calc
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Don't they have that at walmart
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: if you thought c had weird rules you should have tried c++ :)
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Walmart only has base 10. Not prime.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i think it was c++. but whatever:)
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: lua is easy to learn, just have to remember it's case sensitive
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Wait, isn't everything else?
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If "case sensitivity" is something you have to think about in computing, perhaps programming isn't for you
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: with the exception of that retarded language sponsored for years by bill gates (VB) ALL languages are case sensitive
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: when you're mudding with blowtorch case sensitive is ANNOYING
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: pratically ALL*
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: oh! i used VB:)
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No, VB used YOU
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KitCarson claps at A Nimwit Bamboo's performance.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: pure truth bro, prue truth.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: pure*
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i'm getting some errors when calling an alias.  i don't understand the error statement:  https://pastebin.com/4y2Hp4hn    
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Let's see the alias?
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ah. i see what's wrong with it. i haven't moved the file. that's it's trying to read.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it's always good to talk it over. thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Glad I could help
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Negader thanks A Nimwit Bamboo heartily.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: do they have a spellup script for blowtorch
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: not that I know of
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: brb
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not think they have done much development on Blowtorch in some time.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a simple spellup script in it would be pretty easy using spelltags, but another way to go is to just set up a timer to send the spellup command every so often
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, there's been no development on blowtorch in quite a while, and the forum website is broken so you can't look up anything more complex than the very basics :(
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: anyone upgraded their mac to high siera and it's working ok with mush? 
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: is there a way to easily change mush' prompt so that the enemys hp would be the first one in the row?
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: help prompt
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the status window? its hard coded i believe
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: yes I meant the window...but ty tho
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i dont see any way to change the order without going into the plugin itself
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps (
T3/r7/2018-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps :(
T3/r7/2018-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: anyone know which plugin is producing this:  Auto 'noexp' is currently turned OFF.   
T3/r7/2018-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Bast's cp, I think.
T3/r7/2018-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starling's s&d also has auto noexp, so could be that one as well
T3/r7/2018-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Does it? Apparently I'm a version or two behind, as mine doesn't seem to have it.
T3/r7/2018-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: ok thanks. i'll look for it.
T3/r7/2018-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1.3.1 added auto-noexp
T3/r7/2018-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xset noexp 1000
T3/r7/2018-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bast's, it's the statdb plugin that does it...statdb campaignxp
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexetith Tech: anyone who has experience with mushclient triggers, please send me a tell :)
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: what are you trying to do
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: now you get 200 tells :)
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that would be a lot of us..
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Just ask here.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I have the best triggers.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: you'll have a better experience using this channel than tells
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexetith Tech: just to set a trigger, to get back into training with the dummy
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you're trying to hide something, it won't go over well.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexetith Tech: i don't want to hide anything O.o
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Dexe, triggers that engage in combat are like the brightest of lines you dont cross :)
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: help botting
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: If your doing the dummy to train skills you can't improve skills on them anyway
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexetith Tech: is illegal to auto triger hitting the training dummy, while reading notes :o ?
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexetith Tech: i can't :O ?
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexetith Tech: i though i could :(
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: read the sign in the room
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Dummy mobs allow no skill percentage to be gained.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I guess some might argue that you can't anything from dummies, but I wouldn't do it personally.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Love & Wars Tech: no that was removed long ago
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: dummies are for damage testing, etc. AFAIK
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexetith Tech: aw did not notice the sign
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexetith Tech: ty for telling me that 
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexetith Tech: is there any training mob ?
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyways, check this out for trigger help: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Triggers
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but you'd do best to avoid any sort of trigger that puts you in combat
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Gotta go out in the real world and kill mobs.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Yajan.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexetith Tech: oki! tyvm !@w
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Just run around as noexp and kill stuff if you want to stay your level while gaining skills
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The best advice regarding triggers is this: If you suddenly had to go away, for any reason, would your character still participate in combat and gain skills/exp/gold/etc, even if you're not at the keyboard? If yes, then don't do it.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: For what it's worth - this isn't strictly tech - but unless you plan on being a supernewb just level/cp/quest as normal.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines is agreeing with that [Outlaw] Mendaloth person again...
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Interesting. Seems someone is using MUSH and trying to find open IPs on certain ports using the Chat negotiations.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not necessarily from Aardwolf, mind you.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: How is he doing that?
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Probably just doing ranges and ports and using MUSH's Chat functions.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Here
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier looks for Marakech
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marakech Tech: hello
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Is the laptop yours?
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: You can google proxies, but that wont help you much because most proxies are meant for http or http proxy work.
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Try googling "telnet proxy".
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i get a compile error when i level
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: says --> [string "Trigger: "]:1: ')' expected near 'hit'
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: anybody else have problems with ubuntu recently?
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Was there an update?
T3/r7/2018-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i am not clever enough to debug but the most recent kernels don't start my machine
T3/r7/2018-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The MUSH quest/CP mob highlight plugin. Can you use it to highlight mobs of your choice?
T3/r7/2018-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: it wouldn't be to difficult to do something similar yuna
T3/r7/2018-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parnooson Tech: hi all does some one know about soundpack for this game?
T3/r7/2018-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pwar does.
T3/r7/2018-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parnooson Tech: ok asking him thanks
T3/r7/2018-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a mapper command for showing the room number of the room you're in?
T3/r7/2018-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2018-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2018-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does windows explorer have a tabbed mode?
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braber Tech: does anybody use tt++ I used it for a while and IḠam just getting back into it, and IáI am trying to figure out how to set up a class that is read/opened when I connect to the corrisponding host
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: when i was looking at gmcp info before there was norecall noportal in info before, or wasn't there? or am i looking in the wrong field?
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: mush script trouble. i have alias gdt * * . it only works when <gdt something otherthing> is sent. <gdt something> doesnt work at all
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: gdt (.*?) (.*)?
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: hm. now its: <aliasmatch="gdt * *"
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: actually --> "gdt (.*?) ?(.*)?"
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: boobs
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braber Tech: I happen to use TinTin++ does anybody happen to use it?
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Turn on regex, it's only gonna work with regex
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: thanks. i try that
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Bunch of us Braber
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: We even have a pre-scripted version hosted at aardwolf-tintin.com
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braber Tech: cool IÇ have been trying to figure out if I should put mud spefic commands in a cl ---- wow I should check that out, 
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ixle and I maintain that, we tried to emulate the mush package as much as possible
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: those screenshots look pretty sick
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: never seen that before, kudos
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: still doesnt work. heres what i got: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1udiejH7K7kOkrLRHpSqfLdSHErWcIuTg
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braber Tech: so how does one find the version of tintin installed?
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: How small is it?
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's in the MOTD when you start tt
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braber Tech: oh I feel stupid
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That should work, Celeb. What's it matching on?
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: IE do any versions work?
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: works with noregexp. gdt *. gdt * * works only when both * * are there, like gdt grid 4
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm not sure why that regex isn't working.
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: and with current version with regexp - that the png file shows. cant send a message to tech even without the alias treating the message as alias.:)
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can always, as a hack, create a single argument alias as ell
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: add ^ at the beginning and $ at the end
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: still nothing
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: According to regexpal, my regex should work. "^gdt (.*?) ?(.*)?" matches both "gdt foo" and "gdt foo bar"
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: the ^ and $ just prevent it from matching when you send it to tech
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: so its some sinister thing again:(
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: something completely untraceable for a noob:(
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: My best guess if you have another alias somewhere matching first.
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Try making the sequence lower to make it higher priority
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: no other aliases in that script
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: doesn't have to be in that script to trigger
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: gdt is unique
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: eh. i just make another alias for those details. 
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: damn. cant. that * ruins everything
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you could make it match exactly what you want it to match as opposed to any string of text (ie using *)
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: that would be horrible
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: eh. i think i got it under control
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: doing the same in mush aliases win - it works the same way. only gdt blah1 blah2 works. gdt blah1 doesnt work
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: maybe this is a mush version issue?
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: my mouse dropped. it rolled around with a lot of noise. next thing - all win10 windows were shrinked from full screen.
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i did this and was at 730/600 int, 699/600 wis, 646/600 luck: dinv set wear enchanter 261
T3/r7/2018-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Yeah, it can get to be a bit of overkill :p